Usapan:Kabihasnang Binuangan

message: Hello, your new article seems a lot like original research. When I search for "Binuangan" in "Austronesian Art and Genius" I don't see any mention of a Binuangan Civilization. Also when googling "Binuangan Civilization" or "Binuangan Culture" with parentheses, I get zero results. Wikipedia is a place for describing notable established topics, not doing your own research. It seems like this article should be deleted. Glennznl (kausapin) 08:39, 21 Oktubre 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah ok Google Books Search only shows limited previews. I will give you a direct link on Binuangan at Austronesian Art and Genius on my Google Drive its in Page 6-19 it said that Binuangan is a Civilization.

text: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_Q19qmQeJLnPA3YHKtCiu3J8Kyl_AkJf/view?usp=drivesdk

text: Have a nice day bro. :) Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (kausapin) 12:06, 21 Oktubre 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: : I really don't see "Binuangan civilization" on page 16. Nevertheless, even if was there, has this source been peer reviewed? Is it reliable? What do other historians and scientists say? Shouldn't I see some results on Google Scholar when I search for "Binuangan culture" and "Binuangan civilization"? This seems like running ahead of the facts. --Glennznl (kausapin) 13:46, 21 Oktubre 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Actually it has been Peer Reviewed. Professor and Chemist J.M Cayme representing De La Salle University confirmed the antiquity of the Binuangan ruins.

text: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=wUl4q70arlpefU6R&v=eR2tC59T6vk&feature=youtu.be

text: ::As De La Salle University was behind it I think its legit. But I dont know how to cite Youtube videos. Also the Binuangan ruins were only published low key as a deliberate policy to prevent looters from digging up artifacts in Binuangan.

text: ::This is what happened in the Hamtik Limestone Village. Since it was broadcasted publicly, looters despoiled the place.

text: ::Tomb raiders spoil Philippine archaeological find...

text: ::https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limestone_tombs_of_Kamhantik&ved=2ahUKEwjOhav0pIiCAxVowTgGHTaKB2cQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw22ZaJgN0L4IPK4ESTupGxC

text: ::Have a nice day brother. Just ask me if you have any more questions. ^_^ Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (kausapin) 23:31, 21 Oktubre 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Hi, for other people reading this talk page, I did not create the article. I was pinged by Glennznl to have an opinion on this. I will be writing my reply in Tagalog because this is the Tagalog Wikipedia.  Sa unang tingin, mukha nga siyang orihinal na pananaliksik at hindi pinapayagan iyan sa Wikipedia. Tingnan ito: :en:Wikipedia:No original research. Ang bidyong YouTube na ipinakita mo ay isang presentasyon sa isang komperensya. Hindi ito papasa na maaasahang sanggunian o reliable source dahil tinuturing itong pangunahing sanggunian o primary source. Kailangan ang mga sanggunian mo ay galing sa maaasahang ikalawalang sanggunian o secondary source na sinusuri ang orihinal na pananalisik tulad ng nilathalang aklat, talaarawang akademiko (academic journal) o pahayagan. Maganda sana na binanggit mo ang GMA News dahil maituturing itong maaasahang sanggunian ngunit hindi mo naman naibigay ang aktuwal na artikulo ng GMA News na binabanggit ang Binuangan. Tapos, kahit may artikulo ng GMA News, di pa rin ito sapat. Kailangan, nasuri ito pa ng iba pang maaasahang sanggunian. Kasi, notabilidad naman ang magiging isyu nito kung iisa lamang ang nagsuri ng artikulong ginawa mo. May mga binigay ka ngang mga sanggunian subalit tungkol ito sa Inskripsiyon sa Binatbat na Tanso ng Laguna at sa mga binigay mo, wala namang nababanggit sa sulat sa tansong iyon na ang Binuangan ay isang kabihasnan. Paumanhin, pero ang artikulo sa kasalukuyang niyang kalagayan ay isang artikulong orihinal na pananaliksik, at kung hindi mareremedyohan agad, mabubura ito. Sa kabila niyan, ako ay natutuwa at nakakapag-ambag ka dito sa Wikipediang Tagalog ng mga artikulo tulad ng Namayan. --Jojit (usapan) 08:18, 22 Oktubre 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Hmmm tama kah medyo primary sources nakita ko, dapat ko palitan ng secondary o tertiary sources. Meron din akong binasa na lumang kasaysayan sa Espanyol na sumasabi na ang Binuangan ay isang bayan o barangay na meron datu, hindi bilang Kabihasnan pero isang barangay, parang sobrang exagerated naman kapag kabihasnan, dapat Barangay o Bayan lang Binuangan ayon sa mga Espanyol at sa Laguna Copperplate Inscription. Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (kausapin) 00:31, 23 Oktubre 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::: Ok lang sa inyo na buburahin ko ang page na ito at ire-redirect ko sa bago na page na sumasabi na Barangay or Bayan ang Binuangan hindi Kabihasnan?--Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (kausapin) 19:22, 27 Oktubre 2023 (UTC)
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