Diskussion:Varjager

message: jag emotser källa för att Viking = rus, och med automatik varjag = viking.
De polska varjagerna antar jag ej ingar i denna grupp t.ex.? --Dan Koehl 30 oktober 2006 kl. 23.03 (CET)
Ingen källa, veriefering angiven, jag tar bort ordet viking ur texten. --Dan Koehl 23 november 2006 kl. 13.39 (CET)
Efterfragar nu verifiering för att Varjager skulle ursprunga citat: främst från nuvarande Sverige? --Dan Koehl 23 november 2006 kl. 13.41 (CET)
Ingen källa, veriefering angiven, jag tar bort: främst från nuvarande Sverige som både handlade och rövade i österled.--Dan Koehl 7 december 2006 kl. 14.32 (CET)
jag emotser källa för att varjager är allmänt namn på framförallt ruser.-- Dan Koehl 7 december 2006 kl. 14.33 (CET)
Och ger slutligen själv några källor:
replies: text: Stephen Lowe skrev:
The main source is The Varangians of Byzantium by Sigfus Blöndal, translated, revised and rewritten by Benedikt Benedikz (Cambridge University Press, 1978). Graeme Walker (2) suggests with good reason that Blöndal and Benedikz are a little over-enthusiastic in seeing evidence of Varangian presence in contemporary sources, and I have left out any questionable references.
999 AD – Basil engaged in an expedition to Syria. He besieged and captured Emesa.
“The inhabitants fled into the fortified monastery of Constantine but the Russians (i.e. Varangians) set fire to it and so compelled the defenders to surrender after which the monastery was plundered, even the lead and copper being stripped from the roof."

text: och http://www.geocities.com/egfrothos/byzantium/englishconnection.html skriver Stephen vidare:
Among his troops was a contingent of “Warings” (Varangians), mostly Englishmen armed with their “double axes” (caudatis bipennibus)(1).

text: se ocksa English Refugees in the Byzantine Armed Forces: The Varangian Guard and Anglo-Saxon Ethnic Consciousness by Nicholas C.J. :http://www.deremilitari.org/resources/articles/pappas1.htm
*The first Varangians in Byzantine Service, according to Benedikz and Blondal, were Christianized Russians
*Under Basil II (976-1025), the troops from the land of Kievan Rus' were organized into a separate unit that became known as the Varangian guard.[15] Whether these initial troops were Scandinavian or Slavonic in ethnicity has been open to dispute, as part of the general "Normanist Controversy" in the historiography of early medieval Russia.[16]
*The identity of the Varangian guardsmen as English went on for generations, as one authority has stated:
The English for their part no longer had a homeland. They seem to have transplanted elements of the society they had known to Constantinople, such as their class structure, and their religion...The English Varangians seem to have preserved a distinctive identity well into the twelfth century if not later.[33]
I synnerhet de polska varjagerna har jag för mig hade en särskild mjödtilldelning (miód betyder honung pa polska och drickbar honung heter Miód pitny) av kejsaren.
Någon särskild koppling till svear eller skandinaver vore bra om det belystes utförligare med källor inan sådant skrivs in igen.
--Dan Koehl 18 december 2006 kl. 10.07 (CET)
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message: Dessa artiklar är inte dubbletter? --Migel Sances Huares (diskussion) 25 augusti 2015 kl. 20.44 (CEST)
replies: text: I princip. Den med ork och välvilja kan sammanslå dessa. Blockhaj (diskussion) 31 mars 2024 kl. 08.54 (CEST)
thread_title:  [[Varjager]] & [[Väringar]] ????