Diskussion:De femtiotre raststationerna från Tōkaidō

message: Tack för denna artikel. Den fyllde definitivt ett tomrum i svenskspråkiga Wikipedia. Jag har några undringar: Vi brukar översätta all engelsk text som inte är citat. Borde inte kolumnen Station nr och engelskt namn översättas (och byta rubrik)? Transliteration-kolumnen är korrekt, men länkarna har suffixen -juku ("station" i detta fall). Är tanken att skapa artiklar om varje station? --北山 Kitayama (diskussion) 4 april 2020 kl. 22.32 (CEST)

message: Hello! Sorry, I don't speak Swedish, so in English. I stumbled upon this article by accident as I was looking for the use of the illustration of the foto of the cover print in other language versions of Wikipedia.
Many of the statements in this article are incorrect:
*Hiroshige did not take part in any trip from Edo to Kyōto; the designs for the prints in the series were based on illustrations in other contemporary books.
*All prints in the series were finished in 1835 at the earliest.
*Landscape prints were never, before or after this series, a "main theme" in Japanese woodblock prints. The main theme was always the kabuki and actor prints, followed by the bijin prints.
*Prints that used the western perspective existed at least 60 years before this series. The perspective representation in the Japanese color woodcut print of the Edo period was never fully integrated.
*Hiroshige has not designed another 30 Tōkaidō series, according to the current status there were 22; in addition to the ōban and chūban formats, there were among them also series in nijūgiri yotsugiri aiban format
*There were three quality levels for colored woodblock prints: a cheap, a normal and a luxury variant. Only the cheap versions were available for 12 to 16 copper coins; the normal prints cost 60 copper coins. The prints in the series are all "normal" prints.
*By far the most popular, successful and well-known woodblock print artist of the late Edo period was Kunisada I, followed by Kuniyoshi and then Hiroshige.
*Kunisada's bijin Tōkaidō series had higher editions than Hiroshige's series in its time.
*It is not mentioned that there is a second variant of the printing plates of 6 stations (the second variant is only shown for the first station).
*The subtitles of the stations are missing.
*The station Shōno is certainly one of the best-known prints in the series; but how could it be ascertained that this print is really the best known?
*Hiroshige did not work with Eisen on the Kisokaidō series; he has replaced Eisen, who had designed the first 24 prints in the series and who had obviously got into trouble with the publisher(s) (there were two: first Takenouchi Magohachi followed by Iseiya Rihei).
I find it a little annoying that photos of reproductions were obviously used for some of the illustrations; I have uploaded a full set of photos of the original prints to Commons and they are available there.
For the dating and history of origin, see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_53_Stationen_des_T%C5%8Dkaid%C5%8D_(Hoeid%C5%8D-Ausgabe) The relevant specialist literature is also given there. The Google translator is so useful that the text is translated into Swedish in a reasonably understandable way.
Btw: Authors like Andrew Forbes and David Hanley are not technical writers; at best they copy from outdated books. A book that was published in 2014 could already have read the specialist literature; instead, what has been misread in diverse literature for decades is copied again.
Kindest regards. --Horst Gräbner (diskussion) 9 augusti 2020 kl. 16.05 (CEST)
thread_title:  Mistakes