Obrolan Wikipedia:LanguageSu.php

message: This page is a draft of:
Maintenance of the "MediaWiki namespace":
replies: text: What should upcoming Wikipedias know?

text: What knowledge transfer from other Wikipedias is suitable?
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message: * Halló Kandar! It is quite late but I want to drop some lines for you.
* Translating the user interface is quite a time-consuming job. Especially if special questions arrive.
* I went to many wiki's and could see a lot of things that should be fixed. Most of them are not critical, but there are many "nice to have" features and often a simple hint would help and save time for readers and contributors.
* I hope we can collect all the knowhow spread in the comunity, learn more abot MediaWiki, work more efficiently togther, get things fixed, and save a lot of time.
* Let's begin with the critical one:
# The content of MediaWiki:Clearyourcache differs in 80% of the wiki's from :en:MediaWiki:Clearyourcache. I realised this while I have been told to use Live Preview, a java script made by :es:User:Pilaf. In order to "synchronize (?)" Java it was not enough to press "CTRL-R" in Mozilla Firefox. I needed to press "CTRL-SHIFT-R", and during the first time I also needed to open the browser in a new window. I suggest that you translate the content of :en:MediaWiki:Clearyourcache and insert it to :su:MediaWiki:Clearyourcache.
* "ugly"
# Some wiki's still have the note about the "Fundraising Drive 2004" in MediaWiki:Sitenotice. Please insert just a minus sign ("-") in pages you do not use any more. Before you should compare your choice with the "default value". (It may be possible to use that page for a welcome notice - see :mi:.)
* "nice to have"
# In order to have the "show|hide" "minor edits|bots|logged in users" you need to change two WikiMedia messages: MediaWiki:Showhideminor and MediaWiki:Rclinks. See :en:MediaWiki:Showhideminor and :en:MediaWiki:Rclinks. After the change you will see the result at Special:Recentchanges.
# Compare with :en:Special:Recentchanges and :ro:Special:Recentchanges. You can add some useful links at MediaWiki:Recentchangestext. :ro:MediaWiki:Recentchangestext contains all interlanguage links. Just remove su: and insert ro: . You could insert a link about the "Wikimania" conference.
# Please make MediaWiki:Sharedupload the same as :ro:MediaWiki:Sharedupload. At the end of :ro:MediaWiki:Sharedupload is a  . Do not forget it. Do not insert interlanguage links. This is just a test.
* "broken links" – This set of messages contain "< href="/wiki/Special:...". Instead of "plain links", "piped links" should be used.
* Example MediaWiki:Mailnologintext
replies: text: not OK:
Anjeun kudu <a href="{{localurl:Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> sarta boga alamat surélék nu sah na <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences">préferénsi</a> anjeun sangkan bisa nyurélékan pamaké séjén.

text: OK:
Anjeun kudu asup log sarta boga alamat surélék nu sah na préferénsi anjeun sangkan bisa nyurélékan pamaké séjén.
* These changes should be made in many wiki's at:
# MediaWiki:Addedwatchtext – Many Wikipedias generate broken HTML links if you add a page to your watchlist.
# MediaWiki:Mailnologintext
# MediaWiki:Movenologintext
# MediaWiki:Prefsnologintext
# MediaWiki:Prefsnologintext
# MediaWiki:Uploadnologintext
# MediaWiki:Watchnologintext
# possibly others
* "hazard site effects"
# Some wiki's are using / used $1 at MediaWiki:Removedwatchtext. If an image or a category is added to the watchlist, this looks odd. Use a colon to generate an "inline link": :$1. Sometimes the same change is required also at MediaWiki:Removedwatchtext.
* translation of newest MediaWiki messages
# Many wiki's have not paid attention to the new MediaWiki messages introduced in version 1.4. They still display English texts. Some messages are even "older" than 1.4 .
thread_title:  Start up 

message: * I will not change Wikipedia:LanguageSu.php#php.
# If you change MediaWiki texts please do not forget to copy the messages from [ only a part of LanguageSu.php] and paste the clipboard into Wikipedia:LanguageSu.php#php.
# Please verify the change history of Wikipedia:LanguageSu.php#php (if other users modified it) and include the changes in Special:Allmessages. 
* Hope you can use these notes. Enjoy your work! Best reagrds Gangleri 00:21, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synchronising [[Special:Allmessages]] with [[Wikipedia:LanguageSu.php#php]] 

message: * Halló Kandar! Thanks for your work and sorry for this "draft gidelines". I have a long list of items and did not check if the changes where already implemented at :su: or not. I will be more precisly. In the following text "OK" means that the syntax is OK. I can not comment the translation because I do not understand Basa Sunda.
* The changes for MediaWiki:Clearyourcache, MediaWiki:Recentchangestext and MediaWiki:Sharedupload are OK
* MediaWiki:Mailnologintext – please revert to 
replies: text: not OK:
Anjeun kudu <a href="{{localurl:Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> sarta boga alamat surélék nu sah na <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences">préferénsi</a> anjeun sangkan bisa nyurélékan pamaké séjén.

text: OK:
Anjeun kudu asup log sarta boga alamat surélék nu sah na préferénsi anjeun sangkan bisa nyurélékan pamaké séjén.
* MediaWiki:Movenologintext – please revert to

text: not OK:
Anjeun kudu jadi pamaké nu kadaptar tur <a href="/wiki/Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> pikeun mindahkeun kaca.

text: OK:
Anjeun kudu jadi pamaké nu kadaptar tur asup log pikeun mindahkeun kaca.
* MediaWiki:Watchnologintext – please revert to

text: not OK:
Anjeun kudu <a href="/wiki/Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> pikeun ngarobah awaskeuneun.

text: OK:
Anjeun kudu asup log pikeun ngarobah awaskeuneun.
* MediaWiki:Uploadnologintext – please revert to

text: not OK:
Anjeun kudu <a href="/wiki/Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> pikeun ngamuat koropak.

text: OK:
Anjeun kudu asup log pikeun ngamuat koropak.
* Sorry about the confusion. I tray to avoid this in the future. Best reagrds Gangleri 07:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: : Some tests with "localurl" are available at :zh-min-nan:User:Gangleri/tests. Best regards Gangleri 22:09, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  07:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) 

message: * Hi! It should be investigated if MediaWiki:Usercsspreview and MediaWiki:Userjspreview should include the same information as MediaWiki:Clearyourcache. I found "old style'" information at :de:MediaWiki:Usercsspreview and :de:MediaWiki:Userjspreview which is  / (was?) not included at :de:MediaWiki:Usercsspreview and :de:MediaWiki:Userjspreview. Hopefully a qualified answer will be available soon. Best regards Gangleri 23:01, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  23:01, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) 

message: * bugzilla:2045 quit difficult to understand. Regards Gangleri 01:45, 2 Méi 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  01:45, 2 Méi 2005 (UTC)