Diskutim:Immagine & poesia

message: This article is part of a cross-wiki campaign to promote the movement. The article is already deleted on english, french, german, swedish, norwegian and even on the italian (!) wiki, and is discussed other places as well. 
Most part of the campaign is performed by only 3 users - who hasn't written about many other things on Wikipedia: 
* Angler45, 
* Alessandroga80 and 
* Aeron10
Please also note that this picture, that is a part of the cross wiki campaign is a hoax; photoshopped to give the impression that two representatives from I&P met the known poet Ferlinghetti. See :commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ferlinghetti meets Immagine&Poesia representatives.jpg, and ask Angler45 for an explanation. Bw --Orland (diskutimet) 12 mars 2016 13:10 (CET)
thread_title:  Should be deleted 

message: Never seen such a cross-wiki-attack coming from one User: Orland. The meeting with poet Ferlinghetti was real and arranged by his spokesman Garrett Caples and was also documented in Italian newspaper La Stampa [] The photo is not a hoax, but a photoshop improvement of the original photo that was not professional enough for uploading on wiki as Angler45 explained.
The page is not promotional as it only tells the story of the Movement. When it was deleted on some of the mentioned wikis a book about the Movement was not published yet--Oberon12 (diskutimet) 15 mars 2016 07:15 (CET)
replies: text: :Please note that  is an almost fresh user, woken from 3-4 years of slumber, only to engage in this discussions. This must be understood as if the four previous contributors engaged in this article worldwide (Angler45, Alessandroga80, Aeron10 and RiverTeifi) are burned as Single Purpose Accounts.
replies: text: :If there really was a "original photo that was not professional enough", the easiest thing in the world would be to provide this picture now. Please do.

text: :I do not read italian, but according to google translate, the article in La Stampa describes a meeting between only Chiarelli and Ferlinghetti, with no mention of the "movement" we are discussing here. Wheether Chiarelli and some other italian person really met Ferlinghetti i 2013 does not establish notability for the movement as such. It is more interesting that  believed that this photo could be such an important evidence that he had to "improve" it.

text: :Within the Wikipedia system, the basic principle is that the contributors must provide reliable sources for their contributions. This has not been done in this case so far. The most remarkable thing about this, is not that questions are raised now, but that they haven't been asked before. If our concerns were false, and the arguments and sources of the defenders were good enough, this article would have been kept as a good article. Instead, the number of articles have fallen from 69 languages to 29 in two weeks. That is not my work alone, that is a series of independent decisions by different administrators.

text: :Oberon12 tries to establish me as the problem (alternatively together with  - and yet forgetting swedish sysop  ) Such accusations is an old strategy, and I've met them before, in some of the other cross-wiki-spamming campaigns I've fighted. You can read about them on my en:wp user page: :en:User:Orland. I can't blame Oberon12 for not knowing that cross-wiki-spam is quite common on Wikipedia, but they are, and there are several of us trying to deal with it.

text: :There is no such thing as a "cross-wiki-attack" here, Oberon12. This is just good old administrator work to defend the credibility of Wikipedia from being used for promoting someones interests. Please stick to the matter: provide good sources. And; if you can't convince italian Wikipedia to keep an article about the movement, that is not a good token. Bw Orland (diskutimet) 15 mars 2016 23:39 (CET)
replies: text: ::@Orland. Congratulations for this amazing result! You must be very satsfied !

text: ::With your help and propaganda, a page re Culture, Art and Poetry has been destroyed in many wikis and will be in others. With the page you have also destroyed the message of Peace and cooperation among peoples of different cultures, a message in which artists and poets of the movement had believed for several years. Of course you don't care of how distressing this can be for these persons. All that matters is to apply a rigid law. Next time before proposing the deletion of an article please read and understand the content better. As to the independent reliable sources, articles from poetry reviews of different countries have been added; on your request another photo of the meeting with Ferlinghetti has been uploaded. What's more ?--Oberon12 (diskutimet) 17 mars 2016 18:53 (CET)
thread_title:  Should be kept 

message: Përshëndetje, redaktorë!
Tani sa ndryshova 2 lidhjet e jashtme në Immagine & poesia. Ju lutem, shpenzoni pak kohë për të shqyrtuar redaktimin tim. Nëse keni ndonjë pyetje ose dëshironi që t'i injoroj lidhjet apo faqet krejtësisht në të ardhmen, ju lutem vizitoni këtë faqe për informacione të mëtejshme. Kam bërë këto ndryshime:
*U shtua arkivi https://web.archive.org/web/20131023064431/http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/translations-of-the-manifesto/ te http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/translations-of-the-manifesto/
*U shtua arkivi https://web.archive.org/web/20111118122321/http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/in-the-u-s-a/ te http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/in-the-u-s-a/
Kur të keni mbaruar së shqyrtuari ndryshimet e mia, mund të ndiqni udhëzimet te stampa më poshtë për të rregulluar çdo problem me adresat.
Gjithë të mirat!—InternetArchiveBot (Raporto bug) 8 shtator 2019 22:39 (CEST)
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message: Përshëndetje, redaktorë!
Sapo ndryshova 1 lidhje të jashtme te artikulli Immagine & poesia. Ju lutem, shpenzoni pak kohë për të shqyrtuar redaktimin tim. Nëse keni ndonjë pyetje ose dëshironi që t'i injoroj lidhjet apo faqet krejtësisht në të ardhmen, ju lutem, vizitoni këtë faqe për informacione të mëtejshme. Gjithashtu aty mund të gjeni informacion se si mund të rregulloni problemet që mund të kem shkaktuar. Kam bërë këto ndryshime:
*U shtua versioni i arkivuar i faqes https://web.archive.org/web/20160412181607/http://www.montecarlonews.it/2011/03/10/notizie/argomenti/eventi-2/articolo/beausoleil-al-via-una-mostra-permanente-del-movimento-immagine-poesia.html për lidhjen http://www.montecarlonews.it/2011/03/10/notizie/argomenti/eventi-2/articolo/beausoleil-al-via-una-mostra-permanente-del-movimento-immagine-poesia.html.
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message: Përshëndetje, redaktorë!
Sapo ndryshova 4 lidhje të jashtme te artikulli Immagine & poesia. Ju lutem, shpenzoni pak kohë për të shqyrtuar redaktimin tim. Nëse keni ndonjë pyetje ose dëshironi që t'i injoroj lidhjet apo faqet krejtësisht në të ardhmen, ju lutem, vizitoni këtë faqe për informacione të mëtejshme. Ndër të tjera, aty mund të gjeni dhe informacion se si mund të rregulloni problemet që mund të kem shkaktuar. Kam bërë këto ndryshime:
*U shtua ky version i arkivuar i faqes https://web.archive.org/web/20160412181607/http://www.montecarlonews.it/2011/03/10/notizie/argomenti/eventi-2/articolo/beausoleil-al-via-una-mostra-permanente-del-movimento-immagine-poesia.html për lidhjen http://www.montecarlonews.it/2011/03/10/notizie/argomenti/eventi-2/articolo/beausoleil-al-via-una-mostra-permanente-del-movimento-immagine-poesia.html.
*U shtua ky version i arkivuar i faqes https://web.archive.org/web/20131023064431/http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/translations-of-the-manifesto/ për lidhjen http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/translations-of-the-manifesto/.
*U shtua ky version i arkivuar i faqes https://web.archive.org/web/20111118122321/http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/in-the-u-s-a/ për lidhjen http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/in-the-u-s-a/.
*U shtua ky version i arkivuar i faqes https://web.archive.org/web/20110718075435/http://www.saatchionline.com/search?query=Immagine+&+Poesia për lidhjen http://www.saatchionline.com/search?query=Immagine+%26+Poesia.
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message: Përshëndetje, redaktorë!
Sapo ndryshova 2 lidhje të jashtme te artikulli Immagine & poesia. Ju lutem, shpenzoni pak kohë për të shqyrtuar redaktimin tim. Nëse keni ndonjë pyetje ose dëshironi që t'i injoroj lidhjet apo faqet krejtësisht në të ardhmen, ju lutem, vizitoni këtë faqe për informacione të mëtejshme. Ndër të tjera, aty mund të gjeni dhe informacion se si mund të rregulloni problemet që mund të kem shkaktuar. Kam bërë këto ndryshime:
*U shtua ky version i arkivuar i faqes https://web.archive.org/web/20131023064431/http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/translations-of-the-manifesto/ për lidhjen http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/translations-of-the-manifesto/.
*U shtua ky version i arkivuar i faqes https://web.archive.org/web/20111118122321/http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/in-the-u-s-a/ për lidhjen http://immaginepoesia.jimdo.com/about-us/in-the-u-s-a/.
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