Обсуждение:Тамилнад

message: "Тамилнад" является общеупотребительным в русском языке названием, в отличие от калькированного "Тамил-Наду". Следуя логике создателей страницы, надо было бы переместить страницу "Лондон на "Ландон", "Париж" на "Пари" и т.п. Вызывает возмущение, что странице нельзя вернуть название "Тамилнад". То же относится к странице "Раджастан"(общеупотребительно "Раджастхан") -JJagan 20:42,7 марта 2006 (UTC)
Гугль. Тамилнад - 660 страниц. Тамил-наду - 12 ТЫСЯЧ. О какой общеупотребительности речь? Darth MaxSem ☠ 20:44, 7 марта 2006 (UTC)
Гугл. Тамилнад 23600 страниц Тамил-Наду 26600 .БСЭ "Тамилнад". Согласитесь, не гугл должен определять нормы русского языка. в академических изданиях фигурирует "Тамилнад" -JJagan 20:53,7 марта 2006 (UTC)
Да, я, по-видимому, с какой-то левой опцией искал. На сей раз у меня твой результат. И, что самое интересное, на сайте МИД встречаются оба названия, но слитное чаще. Думаю, если в течении суток не поступит возражений, можно будет переправлять. Darth MaxSem ☠ 05:48, 8 марта 2006 (UTC)
Наверное, можно бы уже и переправить. -JJagan 7:20,9 марта 2006 (UTC)
Не возьмусь судить, как правильнее с точки зрения норм или правил русского языка (если они существуют) переводить Tamil Nadu: "Тамилнаду", "Тамил-Наду" или "Тамил Наду", но утверждаю, как человек, пробывший там длительное время и слышавший название этого штата сотни раз от различных языковых носителей, как русских, так и местных, так и англичан, французов, Тамилнаду не склоняется, просто ухо режет "в Тамилнаде". Обращаясь к нашей же статье Склонение географических названий в русском языке, Тамилнаду можно и даже нужно отнести к иноязычному сложносоставному топониму, а значит запретить его склонение. "Проживает в Тамилнаду", "произрастает в Тамилнаду", "поехал в Тамилнаду". Хоть в самой статье такое правило указано только для окончаний "-е, -о, -и, -ы", можно смело добавить к ним и букву "-у", которая там ошибочно, на мой взгляд, опущена. vladkras (обс.) 06:10, 1 мая 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Почитайте ВП:ГН. На картах — Тамилнад, значит и в Википедии мы не можем назвать статью иначе.--Ilya Mauter (обс.) 08:18, 1 мая 2017 (UTC)
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message: А как ставится ударение в русском слове?--Imz 15:57, 4 декабря 2006 (UTC) Я имею в виду: где в этом слове.--Imz 22:52, 4 декабря 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ударение 

message: История Тамилнаду совершенно неправильно в этой статье,
Неправильный Утверждение 1: ". В доисторический период территория Южной Индии, где находился Тамил Наду, была наиболее отсталой технологически по сравнению как с северной Индией, так и со Шри-Ланкой"
2: ". Сюда начинают проникать арийские народы, постепенно подчинившие себе тамильские территории" Также не было никакого подчинения арийской территории и никаких следов влияния санскрита.
Пожалуйста, обратитесь к оригинальному статью здесь и внести необходимые изменения,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Nadu.  Pearll's sun 03:52, 8 мая 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  История Тамилнаду совершенно неправильно в этой статье. 

message: ===Prehistory===
Archaeological evidence points to this area being one of the longest continuous habitations in India. In Adichanallur,  from Tirunelveli, archaeologists from the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) unearthed 169 clay urns containing human skulls, skeletons and bones, husks and grains of rice, charred rice and celts of the Neolithic period, 3,800 years ago. The ASI archaeologists have proposed that the script used at that site is "very rudimentary" Tamil Brahmi http://www.hindu.com/2006/05/01/stories/2006050101992000.htm. Adichanallur has been announced as an archaeological site for further excavation and studies. About 60 per cent of the total epigraphical inscriptions found by the ASI in India are from Tamil Nadu, and most of these are in the Tamil language.. Virumandi Andithevar, of the Piramalai Kallar community from the Tamil Nadu region of southern India, was identified by the Genographic Project as one of the direct descendants of the first modern human settlers in India.  His Y-DNA belongs to Haplogroup C and he carries the M130 marker which defines the first migrants to South East Asia and Australia from the African coast 60,000 years ago; more than half of Australian Aborigines also carry the M130 gene.http://www.abroadintheyard.com/modern-faces-ancient-migration/
===History of Tamil Nadu===
The region of Tamil Nadu in modern India has been under continuous human habitation since prehistoric Madras from 15,000 BCE to 10,000 BCEhttp://www.newsreporter.in/million-years-old-acheulian-tools-were-found-in-chennai as its old existence controversy after mass destruction the land is reduced both in geographical and people. Throughout its history, spanning the early Upper Paleolithic age to modern times, this region has coexisted with various external cultures. Except for relatively short periods in its history, the Tamil region has remained independent of external occupation.
The three ancient Tamil empires of Chera, Chola,and Pandya  were of ancient origins. Together they ruled over this land with a unique culture and language, contributing to the growth of some of the oldest extant literature in the world. They had extensive maritime trade contacts with the Roman empire. These four dynasties were in constant struggle with each other vying for hegemony over the land. Invasion by the Kalabhras during the 3rd century disturbed the traditional order of the land by displacing the three ruling kingdoms. These occupiers were overthrown by the resurgence of the Pandyas and the Pallavas, who restored the traditional kingdoms. The Cholas, who re-emerged from obscurity in the 9th century by defeating the Pallavas and the Pandyas, rose to become a great power and extended their empire over the entire southern peninsula. At its height the Chola empire spanned almost 3,600,000 km² (1,389,968 sq mi) straddling the Bay of Bengal. The Chola navy held sway over the Sri Vijaya kingdom in Southeast Asia.Madurai referred as the name of entire state after mass destruction the land is reduced partially  
Rapid changes in the political situation of the rest of India due to incursions of Muslim armies from the northwest marked a turning point in the history of Tamil Nadu. With the decline of the three ancient dynasties during the 14th century, the Tamil country became part of the Vijayanagara Empire. Under this empire the Telugu speaking Nayak governors ruled the Tamil land. The brief appearance of the Marathas gave way to the European trading companies, who began to appear during the 17th century and eventually assumed greater sway over the indigenous rulers of the land. The Madras Presidency, comprising most of southern India, was created in the 18th century and was ruled directly by the British East India Company. After the independence of India, the state of Tamil Nadu was created based on linguistic boundaries.
 Pearll's sun 03:02, 17 мая 2013 (UTC)
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message: Archaeological evidence points to this area being one of the longest continuous habitations in India. In Adichanallur,  from Tirunelveli, archaeologists from the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) unearthed 169 clay urns containing human skulls, skeletons and bones, husks and grains of rice, charred rice and celts of the Neolithic period, 3,800 years ago. The ASI archaeologists have proposed that the script used at that site is "very rudimentary" Tamil Brahmi http://www.hindu.com/2006/05/01/stories/2006050101992000.htm. Adichanallur has been announced as an archaeological site for further excavation and studies. About 60 per cent of the total epigraphical inscriptions found by the ASI in India are from Tamil Nadu, and most of these are in the Tamil language.. Virumandi Andithevar, of the Piramalai Kallar community from the Tamil Nadu region of southern India, was identified by the Genographic Project as one of the direct descendants of the first modern human settlers in India.  His Y-DNA belongs to Haplogroup C and he carries the M130 marker which defines the first migrants to South East Asia and Australia from the African coast 60,000 years ago; more than half of Australian Aborigines also carry the M130 gene.http://www.abroadintheyard.com/modern-faces-ancient-migration/
thread_title: Prehistory

message: The region of Tamil Nadu in modern India has been under continuous human habitation since prehistoric Madras from 15,000 BCE to 10,000 BCEhttp://www.newsreporter.in/million-years-old-acheulian-tools-were-found-in-chennai as its old existence controversy after mass destruction the land is reduced both in geographical and people. Throughout its history, spanning the early Upper Paleolithic age to modern times, this region has coexisted with various external cultures. Except for relatively short periods in its history, the Tamil region has remained independent of external occupation.
The three ancient Tamil empires of Chera, Chola,and Pandya  were of ancient origins. Together they ruled over this land with a unique culture and language, contributing to the growth of some of the oldest extant literature in the world. They had extensive maritime trade contacts with the Roman empire. These four dynasties were in constant struggle with each other vying for hegemony over the land. Invasion by the Kalabhras during the 3rd century disturbed the traditional order of the land by displacing the three ruling kingdoms. These occupiers were overthrown by the resurgence of the Pandyas and the Pallavas, who restored the traditional kingdoms. The Cholas, who re-emerged from obscurity in the 9th century by defeating the Pallavas and the Pandyas, rose to become a great power and extended their empire over the entire southern peninsula. At its height the Chola empire spanned almost 3,600,000 km² (1,389,968 sq mi) straddling the Bay of Bengal. The Chola navy held sway over the Sri Vijaya kingdom in Southeast Asia.Madurai referred as the name of entire state after mass destruction the land is reduced partially  
Rapid changes in the political situation of the rest of India due to incursions of Muslim armies from the northwest marked a turning point in the history of Tamil Nadu. With the decline of the three ancient dynasties during the 14th century, the Tamil country became part of the Vijayanagara Empire. Under this empire the Telugu speaking Nayak governors ruled the Tamil land. The brief appearance of the Marathas gave way to the European trading companies, who began to appear during the 17th century and eventually assumed greater sway over the indigenous rulers of the land. The Madras Presidency, comprising most of southern India, was created in the 18th century and was ruled directly by the British East India Company. After the independence of India, the state of Tamil Nadu was created based on linguistic boundaries.
 Pearll's sun 03:02, 17 мая 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: History of Tamil Nadu

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