Dyskusja:Bagratydzi (Gruzja)

message: This is Bagrationi. Bagrationi and Armenian Bagrat-UNI are two different dynasties. GeorgianJorjadze (dyskusja) 19:57, 21 wrz 2013 (CEST)
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message: I've moved the page as the name of this dynasty is Bagrationi. Please note that Georgian Bagrationi and Armenian Bagratuni is not the same dynasty and these two shouldn't be under one category. Jaqeli (dyskusja) 19:44, 15 maj 2015 (CEST)
replies: text: Wikipedysta:Belissarius Can you please tell what are you doing? Jaqeli (dyskusja) 19:54, 15 maj 2015 (CEST)
* Polish historiography doesn't reognize Bagrationi dynasty, but Bagratydzi. Your changes are illegal. Do you UNDERSTAND? Belissarius  (dyskusja) 19:58, 15 maj 2015 (CEST)
replies: text: :Please stay calm and stop shouting. There is Georgian Bagrationi and Armenian Bagratuni dynasties and these two are not part of one dynasty thus categorization. Bagrationi is a historically defined name and there's nothing illegal in any sense. Jaqeli (dyskusja) 20:01, 15 maj 2015 (CEST)
Wikipedysta:The Polish Wikipedysta:Doctore The user above is quite aggressive in his tonality towards me and can you please get involved in this issue? Jaqeli (dyskusja) 20:03, 15 maj 2015 (CEST)

text: Jaqeli, Belissarius is history and military expert and, in every case I've seen, he knows what he says. If the name of dynasty exists in different way in Polish sources - it should be on Wiki in that way. Trust me - you can trust him. And I think, you both guys may have a lot of interesting knowledge to share, enriching Wikipedia. Doctore→∞ 23:56, 15 maj 2015 (CEST)
replies: text: :Wikipedysta:Doctore The thing is "Bagratydzi" (dynasty of Bagrat) is known and used for two dynasties, Georgian dynasty is Bagrationi and Armenian dynasty is Bagratuni. So these two are and should be separetely presented as having all the members of the family Georgian and Armenian together is simply wrong. That's the point here and noone is saying that "Bagratydzi" is wrong. Bagratydzi has its own disambug page there and a Georgian dynasty should be just known as it is and its name is Bagrationi. Jaqeli (dyskusja) 00:09, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)
replies: text: ::Jaqeli: so this is great topic to discuss with Belissarius, I'm ignorant about it. What can I add is: if the term "Bagratydzi" exists in Polish sources, it has to be in that way in Polish Wikipedia. Even if it's wrong - that are the rules. We quote sources, don't change them. Doctore→∞ 00:21, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)
replies: text: ::: I know nothing about this topic, I can only confirm that we need Polish sources (e.g. books and websites), which can affirm that the correct writing is „Bagrationi”. You can help you with Google Books, if you don't have access to the complete bibliography. Please let us know. --The Polish (query) 11:21, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)
Wikipedysta:Belissarius Will you please stop edit war and start discussing the issue? Stop removing the sourced material. Wikipedysta:The Polish I hope you can help with this issue. Jaqeli (dyskusja) 14:06, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)

text: I am sorry but i can't help you, I know nothing about this topic. --The Polish (query) 14:21, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)
Wikipedysta:Belissarius Please discuss on the talk page. The categories are already categorized and stop the edit war. Jaqeli (dyskusja) 17:18, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)
Wikipedysta:The Polish Please tell the user Belisarius to discuss on the talk page his concerns. He continues to edit war and discusses nothing on the TP. Jaqeli (dyskusja) 17:24, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)
* : Edit war begun when you illegally changed title of this page, and created incorrect category. I tried to repair your faults but you constantly acting the same way. You may expect soon you'll be banished. This ismy lat word here. Belissarius  (dyskusja) 20:11, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)
Wikipedysta:The Polish Wikipedysta:Doctore Why is the guy above this aggressive? Can you please calm him down a bit? Please if you can involve other parties in this discussion because I doubt I can discuss anything constructively and in a calm manner with this user who threatens me from "banishing". Jaqeli (dyskusja) 21:54, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)

text: I am not able to follow you, please stop, this is your last warning. Edit war is illegal, please consult Polish sources before making edits. --The Polish (query) 22:35, 16 maj 2015 (CEST)

text: In polish sources we have the name of the dynasty, and it is Bagratydzi. The dynasty has two branches - armenian and georgian. The second are Bagratydzi gruzińscy. The name Bagrationi is used in polish only to non-reigning persons of the dynasty Bagratydzi gruzińscy. Please, revert your edits. — Paelius Ϡ 13:21, 17 maj 2015 (CEST)
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