Diskusjon:Varangerhunden

message: Vi trenger flere referanser. Hvor er varangehundbeina i dag? Valich (diskusjon) 23. mar. 2024 kl. 14:12 (CET)
thread_title:  Varanger-funnene 

message: Dette finnes ikke. Det er absolutt ingen bevis. Snakk med museet.
Tromsø Museum
Jeg har forsket grundig på dette og er i dialog med arkeologer ved Tromsø Museum, Norges arktiske universitet, og de er enige. "Senior Engineers" søkte i databasen deres. Det finnes ingen fossile spor etter en Varangerhunden. Det er heller ingen bevis i bøkene til Povl Simonsen. Den finnes ikke.
I have researched this thoroughly and I am in communication with archaeologists at Tromsø Museum, The Arctic University of Norway, and they agree. "Senior Engineers" searched their database. There is no fossil evidence of a Varangerhunden. Nor is there any evidence in the books by Povl Simonsen. It does not exist. Any questions, I have Povl Simonsen's book right in front of me. I have read every page - twice. There are no dog (hund) skeleton, bones, fragments, nothing. This confirmed by archaeologists at Tromsø Museum who also mentioned to me that "they have no idea where this Wikipedia article came from." It needs to be permanently deleted,
replies: text: Det er under enhver omstendighet tale om en historisk hunderase. I Teknologisk forlags store hundeleksikon påstås det at det er gjort «funn», se https://www.nb.no/items/13358c1280debcf8799b613a90320b50?page=0&searchText=Varangerhunden. Artikkelen fra 2006 er ikke verifisert med kilder, men det var heller ikke vanlig den gangen. Wikipedia som her spiller pianistens rolle, bør derfor ikke skytes! Finnes det troverdige offentliggjort kilder som sier at dette er et falsum? --Trygve Nodeland (diskusjon) 22. apr. 2024 kl. 17:29 (CEST)

text: No, it is not a "omstendighet" (historic breed of dog). A lot of fly-by-night books publish fiction that never happened and is no true. Books are written to sell so that the author can make money. Where is the historical evidence? There is none. Does Superman exist because Marvel Comic Books published countless tales about his adventures? Of course not! Leaving this article up only promotes the fictional "myth" to be continued and exploited by other people as if it were true - but it is not. And this is exactly what is happening right now. People are believing this "myth" and thus trying to change the origin of other breeds and the history of dogs in Norway. You are propagating fiction. Valich (diskusjon) 22. apr. 2024 kl. 17:56 (CEST)

text: You cannot use Povl, Simonsen, 1961, Fund og udgravninger på fjordens sydkyst - Varanger-funnene II as a refernce source, which I have right in front of me. No where in it is there anything about dog (hund) or wolf (ulve) skeletons, bones, bone fragments or dog fossils and this is confirmed by Tromsø Museum, whom I am in contact with right now. Nor can you use Tromsø Museum as a reference because they are confirming everything that I say here. There is no evidence of any dogs bones or fossils. This has been confirmed! Valich (diskusjon) 22. apr. 2024 kl. 18:07 (CEST)
replies: text: :Page 413 and 414 in the book Den Store hundeboken from 1963 have photos of the skull that was found in Varanger. ///Mvh. 1000mm (diskusjon) 22. apr. 2024 kl. 18:12 (CEST)

text: :Also on page 54 in the same book, where a publication by Tromsø museum from 1961 is referred to. ///Mvh. 1000mm (diskusjon) 22. apr. 2024 kl. 18:16 (CEST)

text: :Please stop removing content right now! ///Mvh. 1000mm (diskusjon) 22. apr. 2024 kl. 18:19 (CEST)

text: Since there is no Varangerhund, because the Varangerhund does not exist, then how can anyone show any factual evidence that is similar to a Lapphund and a Lundehund - " Et av disse fellestrekkene er at begge mangler 2. premolar på begge sider i overkjeven, et særtrekk den deler med norsk lundehund."  There are no premolar and there is no overkjeven (upper jaw) because there is no jaw, there are no bones, and there is no archaeologic historial fossil evidence of this at all. You are publishing a "comic book article" as if it were fact. Wikipedia is all about publishing evidence with verifiable sources and I have verified that there is no "Vangerhunden" - there is no factual evidence, no fossils, no bones, nothing at all. Valich (diskusjon) 22. apr. 2024 kl. 18:29 (CEST)
thread_title:  Varangerhunden 

message: Artikkelen ble slettet, etter en lang og grundig diskusjon. Denne kan leses på Wikipedia:Sletting/Varangerhunden.
Varangerfunnene, som man nå omdirigeres til bør trolig også omskrives noe mht. Varangerhunden. / @Valich article has now been deleted, and redirected to Varangerfunnene. This should probably be rewritten a bit, in the part about the dog.  ///Mvh. 1000mm (diskusjon) 3. jun. 2024 kl. 01:50 (CEST)
thread_title:  Slettediskusjon / omskriving av omdirigeringsmål