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Disputatio:Via Devana

message: I doubt whether this should be included in a list of named ancient Roman roads, since, as the article correctly says, the name was invented in modern times. The article's fine, but I would either exclude it from the formula or have a separate section in the formula for "nomina ficticia" (there are others too). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:41, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Formula

message: ..good proposal. I'll do it later, ciao--Massimo Macconi 09:07, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  it's a
Disputatio:Iter a Vadis Sabatiis Pisas

message: You seem to have wavered a little here, Massimo! Surely Via Aemilia Scauri is correct, isn't it? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:42, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen

message: very poor therefore I am not able to do the choice between Via Aemilia Scaura (de et en wiki) et Via Aemilia Scauri (it.wiki). I let you decide what the correct name is --Massimo Macconi 09:11, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: Ah, yes, I see, I didn't notice the interwiki dispute! Well, the Italians have it right. The proper form is Via Aemilia Scauri, and I have a printed reference for it, so I'll move the article and add the reference. The grammatical logic is clear if you know where you're starting from. Aemilius (like other nomina) is a noun which can also serve as an adjective, meaning "attached to the gens Aemilia". Now there is, as we know, more than one Via Aemilia, and the obvious way to distinguish them was using the cognomen of the creator. But a cognomen is (usually) an adjective already; in this case "scaurus" means with swollen ankles. That isn't appropriate to the name of a road! So we have to use the genitive, to make it clear that this is not the Via Aemilia with swollen ankles, but the Via Aemilia of Aemilius Scaurus. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:46, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :thank you very much for your exhaustive and clear explanation. I'll also change the de and en.wiki--Massimo Macconi 12:02, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::After all that, there seems to be no early authority for the name at all (as admitted by Smith, see link on page: he refers only to Strabo, who gives no name for the road). So I have now treated it as a road without a name. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:46, 18 Iulii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  my Latin is
Disputatio:Aër

message: I have two problems. 1. Air isn't a type of technology! Surely this should have its own section somewhere in the science category. 2. Should we be using these accents for article names? I know it can easily be redirected to, but should our articles be Aëroplanum and Aëroportus? --Harrissimo 16:54, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Categoria:Chemia and Categoria:Elementa chemica would be more appropriate. As to what to do about the umlauted es with diaereses, I wonder too.--Rafaelgarcia 17:25, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Umlaut refers to a specific sound. These are diaereses.
replies: text: ::I would move this to Aer, and put the diaeresis in the lemma.--Ioscius (disp) 19:27, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Right sorry. Mea cupla on the dieresis. I think Ioscius suggestion is best.  Unaccented titles make it easier to search since you don't have to type the accents in the search window.--Rafaelgarcia 19:32, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Habemus movendam. --Harrissimo 19:55, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::I don't agree at all. Since this is an ecyclopedia, it is necessary that we write the article's right title, and everyone editing here must do the same. It is true that it would be easier to write the diaeresisless title, but it would mean that we could start writing the other articles' titles in a more simplified way. No, I think it is better to write properly the title (with the diaeresis), and to make a simpler redirection.--Le K-li 21:02, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::A discussion has been started at Vicipaedia:Taberna#Umlauted e's with diaeresis-- Do we have a policy?. --Harrissimo 21:22, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

message: Hoc gas indice mea omisi, ut fontem Latine non inueni. Linguae Romanicae et Anglicae inter se discrepant, et ideo non utitur. Quum fons talis repperitur, addas. Pantocrator 00:41, 28 Aprilis 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Oxidum nitrosum: . Burzuchius (disputatio) 20:09, 12 Maii 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Nitrous oxide
Disputatio:Requiem

message: In Tracto qui post gradualem canendus, tertia linea corrigenda est:
ab omni vinculo delictorum
replies: text: gratias, correxi. Tu ipse corrigere potes: preme in nexum "recensere" ad paginam modificandum.

text: Nonne conventum creare vis? Vide Vicipaedia:Invitatio. --UV 23:17, 13 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

message: the text should be moved to wikisource, only encyclopedic information about the text should stay here. --UV 23:19, 13 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  movendam ad vicifontem? 

message: Ubi praescribitur Alleluia omittendum esse? Immo expressis verbis extra tempus poenitentiale permittitur. Bavarese (disputatio) 19:17, 22 Decembris 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Commentatio magna ex parte requiem, ut fuit ante Concilium Vaticanum alterum, describere videtur. Recte dicis Allelujam hodie extra tempus poenitentiale permissam esse (Die kirchliche Begräbnisfeier ... 2009 55. Wenn bei der kirchlichen Begräbnisfeier der Ruf vor dem Evangelium gesungen wird, ist außerhalb der Fastenzeit grundsätzlich das Halleluja vorgesehen.)--Utilo (disputatio) 20:39, 22 Decembris 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Alleluja" omittitur? 

message: Quis mihi explicare potest, quae sint vinvula?--Utilo (disputatio) 21:37, 23 Decembris 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortasse haec est error typographicus pro vincula (nexus externi)? --UV (disputatio) 10:12, 24 Decembris 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: :Res ita esse videtur, ut dicis. Ergo externa vinvula/vincula eadem ac nexus externi sunt!--Utilo (disputatio) 11:15, 25 Decembris 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  externa vinvula?
Disputatio:Iter ab Asturica Burdigalam

message: This is not a name; it's a section heading from the Itinerarium Antonini. If we want to have articles for Roman roads with no names, we'll have to work out what to call them. I suppose Via ab Asturica Burdigalam would be right? There are hundreds of them, of course. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:11, 13 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed my mind on this: the Itinerary gives us descriptions of routes with stopping places, not of physical roads, so (except in the case of named roads) it seems better to adopt the term "Iter" commonly used in the Itinerary itself. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:52, 14 Iulii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Pius II

message: He died on August 14, not August 15
thread_title: Death

message: E quibus fontibus haustum est patriam huius papae in Italia nati Poloniam fuisse? --Bavarese (disputatio) 10:59, 23 Augusti 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Vicidata, sicut Vicipaedia, est fons liber: omnis addere et corrigere potest. Te postulante, mi Bavarese, correxi ego! Nullus fons huius erroris egregii ibi citatus erat. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:14, 23 Augusti 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unde venit?
Disputatio:Bostonia Orientalis

message: How would you say, "Hog's Island," or "Island of the Hog" (one hog, singular)?  I would have thought suis, because the dictionary says sus, suis, so I gather that suis would be genetivus. What does suorum mean? LionhardusCiampa 01:15, 16 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Insula Suum = Island of Hogs (island where you're likely to find hogs); i.e., Hogs' Island = Hog's Island. Who cares about apostrophes, especially in 1636? ¶ The genitive plural of sus is suum, not suorum. IacobusAmor 01:28, 16 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sus ... suis ... suorum
Disputatio:Ioanna Austen

message: Hmm. Iosci, how do we explain the grammar of auctor praeromanticorum britannicas litteras.? IacobusAmor 03:18, 18 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. On the Ephemeris website they say:
replies: text: :SUPERBIA & ODIUM A Ioannae Austen 'Pride & prejudice'. Versio Latina a Thomaso Cotton imaginibus originalibus Caroli E. Brock ornata .

text: But shouldn't it be ...A Ioanna Austen 'Pride &prejudice'.... with Ioanna ablative rather than Ioannae genitive?--Rafaelgarcia 00:29, 25 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :I make out the original as: "Superbia et Odium from Jane Austen's 'Pride & Prejudice.'" IacobusAmor 03:24, 25 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Oh! I see now. The confusion for me came from the ambiguity in the case of 'Pride and prejudice'. --Rafaelgarcia 03:50, 25 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

message: Meyers Großes Konversations-Lexikon, tomus 2. Lipsiae 1905, p. 162 (hic in interreti)
thread_title: Fons recensionis mense Novembri 2020
Disputatio:Alexander de Humboldt

message: Titulum modificavi. Secundum en:wiki, hae non sunt species ab eo inventae, sed species pro eo nominatae. Credo botanistas et zoologos minime solere nominibus suis uti pro speciebus quas inveniunt. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:26, 18 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Index specierum

message: Herders Conversations-Lexikon, Friburgi Brisgoviae 1855, tomus 3, p. 365-366 (hic in interreti)
thread_title: Fons recensionis mense Ianuario 2020
Disputatio:Braunavia

message: Brunodunum est situm fine Austriae et Germaniae. I wanted to say that B. is located on the border (fine, ablative of location of finis) of Austria and Germany.
replies: text: B. est situm = 'B. has been located'. Usually—nay, almost every time it tries to be used in Vicipaedia—situs, -a, -um is unnecessary and might well be omitted. ¶ Here, though, what you want might be 'B. and S. are borderers', or 'B. is a borderer of S.', or 'B. lies along [ad, iuxta, prope] the border of S.' We should not want to be bound by idioms in our native language. IacobusAmor 11:36, 19 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::"is located" is a strange expression in English, anyway. Why use a passive? Who located it? It's just a wordy way of saying is, I think. In Latin, the briefer the better. (Mind you, I have used "iacet" rather than "est" in my edit: 2 letters longer!) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:29, 19 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
Ponte, est connectum cum Sunninpam ad Aenum, Bavariae. I wanted to say that by means of a bridge (ponte, abl. of means), B. is connected to Simbach.  LionhardusCiampa 22:07, 18 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

text: Cum takes the ablative: cum Sunninpā ad Aenum. Maybe coniunctum is better than connectum in this case and I'd probably put it to the end of the sentence. --Harrissimo 22:18, 18 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Go to your dictionary and you'll find Cicero saying angusto ponte pars oppidi adiungitur, which might serve as a model here: S. ad Aenum ponte adiungitur. IacobusAmor 11:36, 19 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Latinitas

message: I think, a Latinisation of Simbach would be something like "Simbacum". Sunninpah is the form of the name in the tenth century. --Alex1011 12:06, 19 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What do others think about this? LionhardusCiampa 12:19, 19 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :I don't know the source for it, but Sunninpah looks like Old High German, not Latin. If so, I would see no reason for us to use the Old High German name; we may as well use the modern German if we can't find a real Latin name. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:24, 19 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Yes, and I certainly favor a 10th-century High German name (Sunninpa(h)) over a Neolatinization of a 19th-century Modern German one (Simbacum). LionhardusCiampa
replies: text: :::The h is important, I guess. OHG -pah will correspond to modern -bach. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:39, 19 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simbach
Disputatio:Recinetum

message: After the distruction of Helvia Recina,in the valley of river Potenza,the inhabitants,who took shelter upon the hills,eventually began to rebuild the city,first on the top of the hills then they descended again and expanded. The new rebuiilt town was Macerata.
Probably Recanati too was built by some of the old Helvia Recina inhabitants (the name too suggests this probability) but Recanati is not the old Helvia Recina,absolutely.
The ruins of Helvia Recina are located in Macerata,in the zone of Villa Potenza.
thread_title: Helvia Recina is the ancient name of Macerata,not Recanati

message: I'm doubtful about the name Helvia Recina. Graesse gives Recinetum.  He does give Helvia Riccina, but he says that it was "eh b. Macerata" ("eh" means "formerly", and I assume "b" means "bei" or "near"). LionhardusCiampa 23:18, 18 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doubtful about name
Disputatio:Aquae Calidae

message: A redirect is impossible here, because there are at least three Aquae Calidae:
* Aquae Calidae (1), urbs Franciae (Francogallice Vichy)
* Aquae Calidae (2), urbs Franciae (Francogallice Amélie-les-Bains) 
* Aquae Calidae (2), urbs Angliae, vide Aquae Sulis
Grazie Leonardo. Allora un redirect in generale alla pagina discretiva Aquae mi sembra la soluzione migliore. Si potrebbe anche creare un'altra pagina discretiva più specifica Aquae Calidae, ciao--Massimo Macconi 05:06, 19 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Id feci, Massimo, quia exstant nexus ad Aquae Calidae; credidi utilius esse paginam discretivam creare. OK? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 07:50, 19 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  However ...
Disputatio:Seefeld in Tyroli

message: I myself came up with Campus Maris in Tyrole.  I know the practice isn't wholeheartedly encouraged here.  Still, I think the city is important enough to warrant a res.  (I've performed there 2-3 times.) LionhardusCiampa 02:56, 20 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OK, I admit it 

message: Credo "Campus Maris" numquam repertum iri. Melius Seefeld in Tyroli dicatur. Videas hoc scriptum. --Neander 01:50, 15 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Vere:

text: "Mittebatur etiam hoc anno in Germaniam P. Mag. Felix Milensius, Neapolitanus, in Congregatione Carbonaria, quam aliquando rexerat, professus; vir magnae litteraturae, vivi ingenii, zelator Ordinis, ac constantis animi, quem vel maxime postea Romae, inter acerbiores suos casus patefecit, cui hoc elogii convenit, quod ipse in suo Alphabeto P. Antonio Kerbekio apposuit. Adjunxit Ordini Conventum Seefeldensem in Tyroli, ac Ingolstadiense Collegium, una cum Monasterio Salisburgensi; multoque plura, tum his locis novellis, tum aliis potuisset impendere subsidia, nisi et Italia, et alia intercedentia mundi mala remoram injecissent, vivit interim, Calabros rexit, ac modo Neapolitanos.

text: "Fundatio Seefeldensis sic se habet. Maximilianus Archidux Rudolphi Caesaris Frater, Magnus Teutonici Ordinis Equitum Magister, et Camera Oenipontana templum S. Osvvaldi in Villa Seefeld Patribus Augustinianis Provinciae Bavaricae concedunt. Consentit quoque Episcopus Brixinensis, et cedit Parochiam. Vigesima ergo secunda die Septembris P. Georgius Humelius Franco, primus Prior huic loco datus Fratres suos introducit in montem illum, saxis silvisque, et glacie, atque nive quasi perenni horridum, et locum natura sua ad Eeremiticam vitam, et poenitentiam accommodum. Illic vere Monachi, vere solitarii Eremitae Augustiniani sumus, nisi quod aestivo tempore ibi brevissimo, frequentes Peregrini istuc commeent ad vota solvenda, ad impetranda beneficia, et hostiam miraculosam invisendam atque adorandam. De qua ut aliquid addam, habe ex Felice Milensio historiam. Osvvaldus a Milsser loco Halae Oenipontanae proximo dictus Milserus, cum praesideret in Schlosberg, castro in finibus comitatus illius Bavariam versus, anno MCCCXXCIV communionem sacram suscepturus diebus Paschalibus in Seefeldense templum, illi vicinius ac finitimum descendens, ambiit majorem hostiam qua celebrant Sacerdotes, eamque a Presbytero requisivit. ..." LionhardusCiampa 23:44, 19 Aprilis 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: :Movi igitur: an recte feci? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:45, 20 Aprilis 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seefeld, Seefeldensis
Disputatio:Calvaria Samogitiensium

message: Zemaisium Calvaria  --> Samogitianium Calvaria, name of the region Samogitia? Pleckaitis 07:40, 21 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, that's a very useful pointer. The natural expression in Latin might then be Calvaria Samogitiensium or Calvaria Samogitiae. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:51, 21 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Hofmann: "SAMOGITIA / Poloniei regni regio ad mare Balticum. / De quo vide Cromerum, et Munsterum. Baudrando in Lithuania late sumpta, inter Curlandiam ad Boream, Lithuaniam propriam ad Ortum, Prussiam Ducalem ad Meridiem, et mare Balticum ad Occasum. Extenditur ad 35. leucas Germanicas ab Ortu in Occasium non aeque lata. Eius Urbes praecipuae sunt Mednichia et Rossa, seu Rosiema. Divisa fuit alias in XII. Praefecturas, quae reducuntur ad tria Gubernia praecipua." IacobusAmor 11:53, 21 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::How true! We don't have an article on the region yet. But the local language has a wiki of its own, I've noticed: see :bat-smg:Pėrms poslapis. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:10, 21 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

message: I'm working on resolving the "imago sine descriptione" category, so added captions -- but I can't read Lithuanian and most of the images have only monolingual descriptions in Commons.  Other WP versions with this page have the exact same gallery with no captions (at least the ones in languages I can read), so no help there.  Anyone who can read some Lithuanian, or knows the area, is cordially invited to flesh out these descriptions! A. Mahoney (disputatio) 19:32, 19 Septembris 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Descriptiones imaginum
Disputatio:Montes Piniferi

message: Sie haben einen wunderbaren lateinischen Stil. Vielen Dank für Ihre Korrekturen und Verbesserungen. LionhardusCiampa 22:57, 21 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My Latin is not that good – others write much better than I do. Thank you for your contributions! Greetings, --UV 22:41, 22 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vielen Dank, UV
Disputatio:Vandalitia

message: Anglice: 'Three foundational singularities shape the Vandalitian solace' ?! (Levamen = 'solace, consolation, alleviation, mitigation'). IacobusAmor 11:57, 22 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
=== Vandalitia ===
* Vandalitia falsus nomen est, quod communiter "Andalucía" arabica origo habet, et iste ab latinae oratio Insula Atlantida nascet. Rectus nomen, Baetica, tenet ab antiquis - Montes, 2 Ianurius mensis 2008, 16:57
replies: text: Andalucia viene de Al-Andalus y este de Vandalus en relacion al reino de los Godos, pues para los primeros conquistadores poca diferencia habia entre Vandalos y Godos. la Baetica, técnicamente es sólo el valle del Baetis (Guadalquivir) lo que no incluiría los sistemas penibéticos, y la provincia romana de Baetica no corresponde exactamente con la actual Andalucia, por ejemplo - por ello hemos preferido mantener el nombre clásico para la provincia Romana y el post-clásico para la comunidad autónoma.--Xaverius 20:06, 2 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Hispaniam "España" non significat, quia Hispania etiam Lusitaniam continuit, sed articulus de España "Hispania" dicitur... Tampoco Hispania corresponde a la actual España. Me parece muy sesgado este razonamiento por el cual "Baetica" no os parece válido. Loqu 08:51, 15 Iulii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Vandaliticum levamen tres fundamentales unitates formant"

message: * Vandalitia falsus nomen est, quod communiter "Andalucía" arabica origo habet, et iste ab latinae oratio Insula Atlantida nascet. Rectus nomen, Baetica, tenet ab antiquis - Montes, 2 Ianurius mensis 2008, 16:57
replies: text: Andalucia viene de Al-Andalus y este de Vandalus en relacion al reino de los Godos, pues para los primeros conquistadores poca diferencia habia entre Vandalos y Godos. la Baetica, técnicamente es sólo el valle del Baetis (Guadalquivir) lo que no incluiría los sistemas penibéticos, y la provincia romana de Baetica no corresponde exactamente con la actual Andalucia, por ejemplo - por ello hemos preferido mantener el nombre clásico para la provincia Romana y el post-clásico para la comunidad autónoma.--Xaverius 20:06, 2 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Hispaniam "España" non significat, quia Hispania etiam Lusitaniam continuit, sed articulus de España "Hispania" dicitur... Tampoco Hispania corresponde a la actual España. Me parece muy sesgado este razonamiento por el cual "Baetica" no os parece válido. Loqu 08:51, 15 Iulii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalitia 

message: Hofmannus et Vandalitia et Andalusia utitur; in lexico eius Vandalitia "commentarius primarius" videtur. Andalusia autem fortasse minus controversa est, quia etymologia disputatur. Lesgles (disputatio) 18:15, 14 Septembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: (Etiam vide eius commentariolum de Baetica.) Lesgles (disputatio) 20:46, 14 Septembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  De nomine
Disputatio Fasciculi:Dna.png

message: Informatio de licentia GDFL no apparit. Hoc documentum apponendam in Wikimedia Commons, non hic.--Rafaelgarcia 12:23, 22 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Haec imago contenit varia errata:
replies: text: :(1) H-PONS debet mutari ad H-vinc. (H-vinculum)

text: :(2) orientatio cytosinae vel guaninae est incorrecta, quod non possumus habere vincula hydrogenica inter H et H. Vincula hydrogenica solum est possibile inter H et O.--Rafaelgarcia 12:46, 22 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

message: I propose this image for deletion because
* its author, its source (apparently a modified version of ) and its license are not specified,
* and because of the errors Rafaelgarcia has specified above.
* A better version of this image is available at . I will gladly try to create a Latin version of the image if anyone tells me the correct wording.
--UV 23:05, 22 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
I'm very sure of all of the following translations except for the word order in Spina phosphato-desoxyribosa, but the word shouldn't matter much in latin.
Vocabulary: english to latin
replies: text: Adenine -> Adeninium

text: Cytosine -> Cytosinium

text: Guanine -> Guaninium

text: Thymine -> Thyminium

text: 5'end -> Terminus 5'

text: 3'end -> Terminius 3'

text: Phosphate-deoxyribose backbone->Spina phosphato-desoxyribosa
--Rafaelgarcia 00:01, 23 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I made a start: . --UV 00:31, 23 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

text: nice. Thanks. Rafael--Rafaelgarcia 02:33, 23 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
Re: "Spina phosphato-desoxyribosa": Alibi dicit Iustinus praefixum des- non esse Latinum. IacobusAmor 03:18, 23 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  delenda