Disputatio:Medicina morborum contagiosorum

message: Infectologia: any Latin sources? I can find a wikipedia article with a comparable name only in Portuguese. In French and some other languages the form used is "Infectiology" vel sim., but the term is rare in most languages. If you Google "Infectiology", you find that most items relate to European countries and are therefore translated from French, German etc. I guess this speciality, where it really exists, lies half way between the much better known specialities called microbiology and epidemiology. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:15, 18 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Does this actually exist as an accepted sub-discipline of medicine? The Portuguese term is one of those Graeco-Latin hybrids that are best avoided (apart from the fact that infectus / inficio in the sense of (pass on) a disease is itself neo- or pseudo-Latin). The best I can think of would be Medicina morborum contagiosorum. --Ceylon 11:48, 18 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name etc.

message: Kindly accept this term and feel free to improve. I am now translating the text below.----Jondel (disputatio) 10:22, 16 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
Infectology is the science and study of conditions that are caused by an invasion of the human body by pathogens such as bacteria, viruses, parasites or fungi that then multiply and cause damage to the organism.
Infectologia 'Medicina morborum contagiosorum' est scientia et studium conditionis causatur introitus humani corporis a pathogenis talis sicut bacteria, virus vel fungus qua tunc multiplicent nocentque organismum.
The infectologist knows the various ways a human can pick up infectious diseases, and the tests that are needed to diagnose them. The patient is then prescribed the medicine that is appropriate to treat the viral, bacterial, parasitical or fungal infection.
The infectologist plays an important part in combating serious viral diseases such as AIDS or hepatitis. He selects the correct drug or combination of drugs for these patients, constantly monitors the outcome of the therapy and adjusts it as and when necessary.
The infectologist also knows how infections are disseminated in the environment. He adopts the procedures that are needed to prevent this from happening, such as immunisations or the disinfection of rooms and equipment.
thread_title: Reddens ex fonte anglice Hirslanden

message: Infectious disease, is a medical specialty dealing with the diagnosis, control and treatment of infections.'Medicina morborum contagiosorum'De contagione et contagiosis morbis est disciplina medicae tractandis diagnosis, comprimendis, et curandis contagibus.~ Morbus contagiosus est proprietas medica quae contagiones discernendas, continendas, curandas tractat. (?) IacobusAmor (disputatio) 05:15, 23 Decembris 2016 (UTC) An infectious disease specialist's practice may consist largely of managing nosocomial (hospital-acquired) infections, or it may be out-patient based, in which case it focuses more on community-acquired infections.Artifex(vulgo 'Infectologista') exercet potissimum tractandi contagia nosocomiales(contaminantur in valetudinario).
ID specialists typically serve as consultants to other physicians in cases of complex infections or immunologic issues, and often manage patients with HIV/AIDS and other forms of immunodeficiency.Artifex saepe medicis apparet ut consiliarius de contagibus complexis vel aerumnis immunilogicis et saepe tractat aegros cum HIV/SCDI et aliis generibus deficientibus immunitatibus 
The ID specialist may be consulted for cases where an infection is difficult to diagnose, is accompanied with a high fever, or does not respond to treatment. Artifex consuli potest de causis ubi contagio difficilis est ad diagnosem et febrem gravem coniungit vel non curat cum tractione.
They may also be asked to help determine the cause of a fever of unknown origin.Etiam ad discernendum febrem incognitae originis rogari possunt.   [2] Patients with chronic infections (e.g. HIV) who require treatment monitoring may also be referred to ID specialists for long-term care. [1]
ID specialists can practice both in hospitals (inpatient) and clinics (outpatient). 
ID is historically associated with travel medicine and tropical medicine, as many diseases acquired in tropical and subtropical areas are infectious in nature.[4]
ID specialists employ a variety of diagnostic tests to help identify the pathogen that is causing an infection. Common tests include Gram staining, blood cultures, serological tests, genotyping, and polymerase chain reaction (PCR).Artifex varias probationes diagnosticas adhibet ut agnoscat pathogen causante contagium. Probationes communes comprehendunt tincturam Gram('Gram staining'), hemoculturam (blood culture), serologia, genus digestionem(Genotyping), et reactionem polymerasis catenensis. 
In the United States, ID is a subspecialty of internal medicine or pediatrics[5] (i.e., an internist or pediatrician trains for an additional 2 years as a medical fellow to qualify as an ID specialist and sit for the ID boards).In CFA,'Medicina morborum contagiosorum' est disciplina sum medicina interna et pediatrica.
thread_title: Reddens ex fonte abbreviente anglice wiki Infectious disease (medical specialty)

message: :I still don't know about the term. Yes, "Hirslanden" mentions the term "infectology", but Hirslanden doesn't quote any source and is apparently a commmercial site based on a Swiss private hospital. Many Swiss people are good at languages, but if we want to know whether there's really a useful English word "infectology" or, more important to us, a Latin word "infectologia", that's not an adequate source. Notice this too: the heading used by Hirslanden is actually not "infectology" but "infectious diseases", similar to the linked English Wikipedia article :en:Infectious disease (medical specialty).
replies: text: So, "infectious disease" is a subject, for which we want a name, but I suspect this is not the name. We can use "morbus infectivus" if we want: this is not classical but it is attested scientific Latin, a term used in the ICD-10 classification (see this page for example) although, so far as I can see, ICD-10 does not have a supercategory "infectious diseases". There may be other possibilities. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:50, 16 Decembris 2016 (UTC)

text: Another point: I don't know where the word sitione comes from (I think I've seen it on your pages before, Jondel). The word situs can mean "site" and we often use it for websites: it seems OK to me. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:50, 16 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
Ok Andrew I will look for a source first and if not, look at the recommended terms. I will also correct sitione.--Jondel (disputatio) 15:06, 16 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
'Medicina morborum contagiosorum' is ok? The subject  is a  medical specialty.--Jondel (disputatio) 15:36, 16 Decembris 2016 (UTC)

text: Yes, that phrase is OK: compare the 17th century book by Fracastoro, De contagione et contagiosis morbis. Notice, Jondel, there may not be much to say under this heading that couldn't be said under contagio: but if you can find sources, fine. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:53, 16 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
Could this be a  source?--Jondel (disputatio) 16:20, 17 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: :I'd already given you a source for your Latin term "morbi contagiosi": you've found some more. No problem. What I mean is, you need factual sources for this subject, for the things that you say about it.

text: :But, look, Jondel, I thought this was a weak subject and a bad Latin name, the article had been a hopeless case for eight years, hence I deleted it without shedding many tears. You want to resuscitate it: that's great. But I think I've spent enough words on it now. You go ahead :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:04, 17 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
I would like to go ahead.I am summarizing the English wiki and will post here and will post  the Latin then fill-in from there.There is no harm in having this article.--Jondel (disputatio) 17:13, 17 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the source.--Jondel (disputatio) 01:34, 18 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
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