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Disputatio:Linguae Sinicae

message: Quomodo haec lingua latine nominanda est: Chinensis, Chinica, Sinensis, Sinica? Nomen paginae est "lingua Sinica", sed in textu paginae scriptum est "lingua Chinensis". Quid est mutanda: nomen paginae aut textus? -- Alexander Gerascenco 15:14, 2 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Orthographia latina mandat chinica pronuntiari kinica, certus sum ut scias, modo non credo illam formam rectam esse. Visi universitates sinicas se nominare latine Academia Sinica, et software Clavis Sinica pro lingua discedendo. Valde credo textum mutandum.--Ioshus Rocchio 15:23, 2 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Pro initio "Chin-": Varians nominis terrae et linguae cum kina exsistat in lingua Graeca, quae esse potest fons haustus verborum pro lingua Latina ("Κίνα" et "Κινέζικη γλώσσα"). Etiam disputavi nomen linguae, Anglice "Chinese (language)" et Russice "Китайский (язык)" nominatur, cum administratore situs "http://latinitas.fithosting.net" - de opinione viri illius, "melius dicere "Chinensis" aut "Chinesa"".
replies: text: ::(Pronuntio "ch" sicut Russica "x" (puto, scis quomodo legitur littera illa, Anglice "kh" transliteratur) - sic in universitate docebamur.)

text: :Pro initio "Sin-": Habeo xerocopiam libris de lingua illa, in Sina/China editae - "Sinolingua" nominatur. Scripsis, "universitates sinicas se nominare latine Academia Sinica". Si homines terrae illius linguam suam sic nominant, haec varians melior est.

text: :"Lexicon Russico-Latinum" a M. Poliachev(Poliashev) dat: "Китай China, ae, f; Sinae, arum, fpl", "китайский Sericus, a, um; chinensis, e; sinensis, e".

text: :Cum te consentio, textus paginae mutandus est. Puto, variantes nonnulae latinisationis linguae illius dandae sunt.

text: :-- Alexander Gerascenco 16:25, 2 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Radix Sin- ex tempore Romano est. Radix Chin- recentius et frequensque inter auctores serios est (Hofmann, e.c., de China et Chinensibus scripsit;  etiam de Sinis et Sinensibus ) sed nuper forma classicizans Sin- saepius praefertur, nisi fallor.  Etiam, vidi 'S/Chinensis' frequentius quam 'S/Chinicus' esse (forsitan adverbio 'Sinice' excepto).   Credo ille 'ch' in 'China' eodem modo quam ullius 'ch' in nationalibus systematibus Latini pronuntiandi pronuntiari (h.e. Italice/ecclesiastice ut 'k').  —Myces Tiberinus 16:51, 2 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

message: How can we translate these words into Latin?
* 中国国家语言文字工作委员会
* 國語推行委員會
* 新加坡推廣華語理事會
170.64.218.143 03:06, 21 Martii 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: If these are the names of institutions, and the name can be translated using existing words, our guidelines allow translation. It just needs a Latin speaker who is also a Chinese speaker to propose a translation. The format you quoted is not the one we now use: the preferred format will be this:
*  or whatever it may be. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:23, 21 Martii 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translatio ex Linguis Sinicis
Disputatio:Mons Regius

message: Actually, Montréal is the French way of writing it - with the accent. [Scripsit 70.50.165.172 hora 08:37, 3 Iunii 2006.]
replies: text: Who got the idea of calling Montreal 'Mons Regius' in latin? [Scripsit 216.252.80.92 hora 01:57, 17 Ianuarii 2008‎.]
replies: text: :The name means Mount Royal, right? Named after the mountain overlooking the city. Mons Regius is merely a literal translation, although I don't know the original source for it. THe Vatican name for the archdiocis apparently uses Marianopolis, but several of the fontes nominum locorum cite "Mons Regius" as well as "Mons Regalis" as translations for similarly named European cities in Germany, Italy and France..--Rafaelgarcia 02:27, 17 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::"Marianopolis" is the fancy translation of the old name of the city, Ville Marie; the Vatican doesn't update its Latinisations to take account of changes in the vulgar tongue, so Marianopolis it remains.  But "Mons Regius" typically appears on crests, mottoes, etc. in the city today, and has done since at least the early 19th century.    74.127.242.146 18:39, 30 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Thanks. Very useful information. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:41, 30 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::And we now know that the official name of the university is Universitas Montis Regii. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:47, 3 Aprilis 2010 (UTC)

text: ::::My diploma from McGill describes the university as ad Montem Regium in Canada.
replies: text: :::::Thanks, that's useful to know. So is the complete phrase "Universitas McGill ad Montem Regium in Canada"? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:15, 26 Martii 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen

message: Anyone know how to say "Montréalais"/"Montrealer" in Latin? Thanks :) Mattie 00:45, 21 Augusti 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You can say "Marianopolitanus", that is the term used by the Vatican. --Cassius Granatensis (disputatio) 18:17, 9 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :Gratias tibi ago: id symbolae addi, una cum fonte quodam. Mattie (disputatio) 18:29, 9 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  De incolis Montis Regii
Disputatio:Carmen Nibelungorum

message: Carmen Nibelungum? Nibelunges, -ium? Alex1011 09:53, 4 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Minime. Nomen Latinum attestatum est 'Carmen Nibelungorum', ut plurimis e fontibus, nunc in pagina citatis, manifestum est. Quamobrem pagina hoc ad nomen movenda videtur. --Fabullus 15:09, 3 Iunii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  De nomine Latino
Disputatio:Martinus Lutherus

message: Moved this anonymous comment to here:
Non: "Sunt duae veritates: lex et gospel", sed "Sunt duae veritates: lex et evangelium". English is not Latin!!!
--Roland2 20:16, 6 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unde quaeso?--Ioshus Rocchio 20:43, 6 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Mea culpa, stultus sum =].--Ioshus Rocchio 20:44, 6 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

message: Nomen Latinum reformatoris Lutherus est, quamobrem articuli inscriptio Martinus Lutherus esse debet.
thread_title:  De nscriptione huius lemmatis 

message: De Luthero huius categoriae "sodale" apud alias Vicipaedias nihl lego. Igitur retraxi. Si erravi, corrige s.v.p. et fontem addite. Gratias! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:20, 5 Martii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sic adfirmat en: "He came to view his cry for help as a vow he could never break. He left law school, sold his books, and entered a closed Augustinian friary in Erfurt on 17 July 1505." Vide :en:Category:Augustinian friars. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:36, 5 Martii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :Yes, thanks, we already have that one. See :Categoria:Augustiniani. This one seems to be different.

text: :... God knows, maybe you're right. You see, our category with the long silly name is linked to a German one with a rather shorter name which doesn't sound to me like the English one and is not linked to it. And Martin Luther is not a member of that German category. But what do I know? If you are really convinced you're right, put the information on the page and add the category back again :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:06, 5 Martii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Don't ask me! Ask Utilo! IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:34, 5 Martii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :::That's a very good idea! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:38, 5 Martii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Luther entered the Ordo Eremitarum Sancti Augustini, which today is called "Ordo Sancti Augustini". It is (resp. was) one of the four big Mendicant Orders of the Middle Ages, whose members are monks using the rule of St. Augustin. Canonici Regulares Sancti Augustini are quite a different thing (priests, whose main mission is pastoral care, living a common life under the same rule of St. Augustin); Canonici Regulares Sancti Augustini Fratrum a Vita Communi are a once important branch of this latter type of canons. So for Luther :Categoria:Augustiniani is correct (German Wikipedia has two categories for the same order without clear distinction).--Utilo (disputatio) 14:27, 5 Martii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  De [[:Categoria:Canonici Regulares Sancti Augustini Fratrum a Vita Communi]] 

message: I have a lot of difficulties seeing this change as NPOV... Sigur (disputatio) 11:21, 21 Iunii 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Reverti! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:26, 21 Iunii 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV
Disputatio:Marcus Aemilius Scaurus (senior)

message: It was Marcus Aemilius Scaurus (maior) before — what is better? --Roland2 17:09, 7 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, I've usually seen maior...cf Cato Maior, Pliny Maior, but I suppose I have seen senior, too. I'll check Perseus for frequency of term, but my hunch is on maior.--Ioshus Rocchio 17:18, 7 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

message: It is odd that this article makes no mention whatsoever of Scaurus's role in the Jugurthine war, as recounted by Sallust. See the English article, which does. Toddcs (disputatio) 15:40, 9 Decembris 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to mention it! IacobusAmor (disputatio) 16:12, 9 Decembris 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no mention of the Jugurthine war?
Disputatio:Hermannus Weller

message: Hermannus Weller? Alex1011 21:39, 8 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
Conatus sum disticha ita reddere ut formae poeticae congruant, sed machinae regulas non bene intellexisse videor. Nunc versus in margine quodam apparent quem nullo modo habere volui sed nescio quomodo deleatur. 157.82.55.196 10:22, 17 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

message: Hermannus Weller scripsit Y. Nummum aureum Hermann Weller anno 1937 addictum est. 'Hermannus Weller wrote Y. In 1937, the Hermann Weller goiuald moieadal* was awarded'. Or did you mean Hermannus Weller scripsit Y. Nummus aureus anno 1937 ei addictus est. 'Hermannus Weller wrote Y. In 1937, he was awarded a gold medal'. ??? (If so, what was the name of the medal? and who awarded it? and why?) *Misspelled to accommodate the original misspelling. IacobusAmor 13:27, 17 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Style question
Disputatio:Slovacia

message: Georgius Iuvenali 1982 salutem plurimam. Dumtaxat unum habeo interrogatum: Qua de causa Slovaciam in Slovachiam, vocem omnino mirificam, mutasti? Quae sunt argumenta tua, quibus mutationem tam subitam tamque miram confirmare possis? --Georgius Laminarius 16:14, 10 Maii 2006 (UTC)
Quod ad nomen Slovaciae aut Slovachiae attinet, videatis paginam meam disputationis - --Georgius Laminarius 07:19, 9 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Slovachia?
Disputatio:Castrum

message: This does not work? Alex1011 22:36, 11 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly doesn't work?--Ioshus Rocchio 23:25, 11 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Now it does work. I wanted to make a redirect catrum -> castra, but whenever I typed in "castrum" afterwards I got the message: nothing written in this page, although on "recensere" everything then was to be seen. I think I made already sometimes the experience that redirects take some time until they are online, so to speak.

text: :Another thing, maybe this redirect should be replaced sometime by castrum = catellum or something like that, the word castrum singular did exist in Latin, I found out. Alex1011 07:09, 12 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Yes, indeed the word castrum singularly means something a bit different than its plural equivalent. Castrum means fort and castra means camp, quoting from Bennett, 61.--Ioshus Rocchio 11:36, 12 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :::I just tried castrum and still got: In hac pagina nondum litterae sunt. Today in my office it did work. Or is it my cache? Alex1011 17:22, 12 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

message: Hi Iacobus, I recognize Sancti Augustini as the locative, but the locative doesn't apply to states or countries so Floridae must be the genitive right? I thought the usual thing is to put the city in the locative and the country/state as in+ablative.--Rafaelgarcia 18:15, 22 Augusti 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I must say that, as Iacobus has done here, I habitually put the region (province, state, etc.) in the genitive. It's quite normal Latin (as in "Bethleem Iudaeae", Matthew 2.1). But "in" + abl. is also normal! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:30, 22 Augusti 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Either way is fine with me, but Andrew's biblical citation—somewhere, months ago—persuaded me to favor the genitive! IacobusAmor 00:16, 23 Augusti 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Locativus
Disputatio:Lexicon Nominum Locorum

message: This page...is about useless...any disputes?--Ioshus Rocchio 23:51, 11 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: None from me. From the first edit it seems to have been an objection to the names Egger proposed, not about the LNL at all.  —Myces Tiberinus 10:49, 12 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

message: :Moved to here. --Roland (disp.) 10:29, 6 Augusti 2006 (UTC)
New Hampshire = Nova Hamia, no Nova Hantescira. Hampshire, Anglo Saxon. Formerly known as "Southamptonshire", meaning is "shire of Southampton": "Southern town of Hamo" (HAMOPOLIS  MERIDIONALIS). HAMO refers to a 5th century Saxon invader and settler. See "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymological_list_of_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom"
Laurentius Euricus Iacobopolitanus Tziliensis hoc scripsit. 
Cursus electronicus: euricus@gmail.com
Chile = Tzilia, non Chilia. Cf. Tzekia, Tzinisthan.
TZILIENSIS seu  TZILENSIS, non chilensis.
"TZILI", id est Terra "PERLONGINQUA seu REMOTA seu EXTREMA" in lingua aboriginum aymararum bolivianorum. "TZIRI", id est Terra "FRIGIDA" in lingua "runa simi" incarum peruvianorum.
Caput Tzilia est "IACOBOPOLIS" seu "Sancti Iacobi Urbs", sita ad ripas fluvii "Maputziongis" ("Mapocho", Neolatine Hispanice) et prope Antem Montem. Fluvius "Maputziongis" ("Mapocho"), id est fluvius "LATENS  IN  TERRA" ("Mapuchong") in lingua "mapudungun" aboriginum araucanorum seu maputzium (Mapuche). 
Laurentius Euricus hoc scripsit.
China = Serica  seu  TZINISTHAN, non Sinarum Regio.
TZINISTA was the name for China used by the alexandrian monk Cosmas Indicopleustes in his work "TOPOGRAPHIA  CHRISTIANA" in 547 A.D. TZINISTA derives indirectly from the Sanskrit "CHINASTHANA", where "Sthana" means "region" (Cf. Hisdustan, Afghanistan,etc...).
"TZINISTHAN" is the name that appears in the nestorian inscription of Singanfu (today Xi'an) of the 781 A.D., discovered in 1625.
Laurentius Euricus hoc scripsit.
thread_title: De nominibus
Disputatio:Maximilianus Planck

message: Is this really the correct latinization? (Really, I don't know either way.)Sinister Petrus 21:36, 12 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not know either ... I trusted the red link on page 1900. However, the description of the image on page Albertus Einstein says Max Planck. I did not change the link text of this link. --Roland2 21:42, 12 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

text: Hm ... see http://www.univie.ac.at/klassphil/skriptum.htm --> Max et Moritz: Lateinischer und griechischer Text von Max und Moritz (http://www.gottwein.de/Varia/Mormax.php). It is the story of :de:Max und Moritz. We have it as well ... it is Maxus atque Mauritius. --Roland2 21:52, 12 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Max(us) sane breviter pro Maximilianus est, si hoc etiam auxilio est. Alex1011 22:27, 12 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Maxus?
Disputatio:Paulus Helmke

message: Brady Campaign to Prevent Handgun Violence = ___ in lingua Latina?--Brennus 00:23, 14 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Petitio (Genitive of however you end up latinizing brady) pro violentiam sclopetorum manualium impediendo." aut modo dicam.--Ioshus Rocchio 03:00, 14 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Translatio nominis Anglici
Disputatio:Dacota Meridiana

message: Ok,  Ammito ut nesciam quo in modo dicere latine Sioux Falls. Fortasse Catarracta Suorum? Scisne? Sinister Petrus 03:59, 16 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Catholici habent Dioecesin Siouxormensem. Unde "ormensis" venit, nescio. Lesgles (disputatio) 15:20, 16 Aprilis 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sioux Falls
Disputatio Vicipaediae:MediaVici

message: ----
 Whatever this once was, I am sure no one will need this
 at any point in the future.
 --UV 00:25, 13 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
 The lemma would be ok (it's about the software we are using) ... but
 I do not have any idea what the content wants to tell us.
 Should be either filled with the right content or deleted.
 --Roland2 05:51, 13 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
 Just started to add some information.
 --Roland2 10:02, 17 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disputatio deletione
Disputatio:Matrix (pellicula)

message: Shouldn't the page be moved to e. g. Matrix (pellicula)? --Roland2 19:51, 18 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the longer title is somewhat more correct. I would leave it for the moment at that. (I corrected above pelicula -> pellicula.) Alex1011 20:50, 18 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :As I have encountered it, the longer title is not used, and pellicula is the term used for movie, and generally has been the precedent here.--Ioshus Rocchio 21:06, 18 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

message: Maybe the time for a spoiler caveat, like en has...--Ioshus Rocchio 18:34, 20 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is actually a big debate going on over at the en.wiki about spoilers, vide hic -Secundus Zephyrus 04:50, 3 Iunii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Yes, I've been surprised at how many people are against spoiler warnings. To "spoil" a secret in Latin is profanare. I could swear I've written a spoiler warning in some article before, btu I can't find it right now. --Iustinus 04:58, 3 Iunii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  spoiler
Disputatio:Bostonia

message: Inveni nomen Latinum pro Lincoln in Anglia: "Lindum". Lincoln county quamobrem esset comitatus Lindensis. 
replies: text: Nunc inveni: Lincolinum, Lincolnia, Lindecolina. Alex1011 17:48, 21 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

message: Amovui "Commeatus" Andy120 02:53, 27 Augusti 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commeatus
Disputatio:Index locorum in Civitatibus Foederatis Americae

message: Debeamusne movere hanc res ad rem "Index locorum in Civitatibus Foederatis Americae"? Quid dicitis vos? Ego cras (22 Augusti) hanc movebo, si nemo negat. Sinister Petrus 20:05, 21 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Movere
Disputatio:Bellum

message: An "Bella gesta" delere possimus, quod omnia bella etiam in categoria inveniri possunt? Alex1011 07:43, 24 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think lists and categories should be kept both. Each of them has it's advantages. In lists we can keep articles which do not exist yet. Maybe we could move the list from the article to a page like Index bellorum. --Roland2 07:50, 24 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

message: Nomen attestatum anno 1869 est Bellum Successionis Hispanicae. Vide: http://books.google.com/books?id=X3EDAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=bellum+successionis+hispanicae&source=bl&ots=-keT_6U3yx&sig=A9FOJjZRj1R1vy3rxvX1_A_IvsY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result. IacobusAmor 14:35, 21 Novembris 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen "Bellum de successione Hispanica" est falsum?
Disputatio:Angela Merkel

message: Dr. Angela Merkel ??? --217.81.186.107 15:38, 27 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes...a doctorate in quantum physics... what's your question?--Ioshus Rocchio 16:37, 27 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Okay, my latin isn't great but why shouldn't we just put "diploma (in) physica habet/tenet(?)"? Alexanderr 22:48, 11 Septembris 2006 (UTC)

text: :because diploma and doctor is something different in Germany.Vulpinus 18:33, 20 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

message: Warum steht bei Merkel der deutsche und kein latinisierter Vorname, während dies bei allen ihren Vorgängern so ist? --78.50.205.30 13:03, 17 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: weil die Endung a schon eine lateinische weibliche Form ist.Vulpinus 18:33, 20 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vorname
Disputatio:Vinum

message: Vinium is a mistake by someone who didn't know Latin and didn't have a dictionary handy. I don't see anything useful or unique on that page so it should simply be deleted. There's no real need even for a redirect. Andrew Dalby 08:34, 29 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  De pagina "Vinium" 

message: De duabus rebus dubito. 1. "Vinum Portucalense" praefero quia hoc vinum ex urbe Portu Cale nomen habet, minime e civitate Portugalliae. 2. Nomen animalculi "Dactylosphaera vitifoliae" multis modis scriptum est, et orthographiam officialem (si sit) oportet reperire. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:58, 27 Septembris 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  De pagina correctiori 

message: The latest run shows that we've lost a few points because Andrew reduced the size of the text enough to pull the total down to 29850, just 150 characters below the cutoff. When I get the chance, I'll add enough back in to boost the text back above 30K. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 20:23, 2 Februarii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Ha! I see that you've just done it!!! :) IacobusAmor (disputatio) 20:24, 2 Februarii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: :Yes, and was just updating this page to say so!  Of course depending on exactly when the table is run within Meta, we may not get the points this month, but we'll get them back eventually.  A. Mahoney (disputatio) 20:27, 2 Februarii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Losing points
Disputatio:Katana

message: That article is POV all over and has not the least bit of valuable information. It's a shame that there are no Wikipedians capable at Latin who are also interested in improving this article on one of the most important aspects of Japanese culture. Usor:Sarazyn DOMI 19:26, 1 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll see what I can scrape together.  --Tom 05:57, 10 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)

message: "Catana est vox pro "gladio" in lingua Iaponica."
Shouldn't this be "catana est verbum pro..." ?--BiT 14:18, 25 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Vox = verbum, phrasis, sententia. IacobusAmor 14:59, 25 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wha..

message: Re: "Etiam est pro genere Iaponiae machaerae utitur. Catana una cum vakizasibus de more utitur." Sententiae non sunt grammaticales. (Anglice: 'It uses it is also for a kind of Japanese long sword. Catana uses one with a vakizasis from/regarding [a] custom'.) Vox utor est verbum deponens : forma passivum, sensu activum. IacobusAmor 14:59, 25 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deponens