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Disputatio:Lentia

message: '''CONATUS RECENSIONIS ARTICULI'''

message: <nowiki>[[Image:Linz CoA.png|thumb|200px]]
 <nowiki>[[Image:Linz Donau.jpg|thumb|200px|Lentia]]
 '''Lentia''' urbs in [[Austria]] et caput provinciae [[Austria Superior|Austriae Superioris]] est. Praeter rivam  [[Danubius|danubii]] sita, fere ducentiens mille inhabitantes habet, et tertium locum inter urbes austriacas tenet,  [[Vindobona]]m et [[Graecia_(urbs)|Graecia]]m proxima).

message: In area Lentiae nostrae aetatis, complures oppida Celtica in saeculo quarto a.Chr.n. condita sunt, unum ex iis sub    nomine 'Lentos'. Castellum Romanum, post occupationem regni Norici nomen 'Lentos' suscepit, sed paulo       post in nomine 'Lentia' permutavit. 'Lentia' deletum est complurens in impetis repentinis Germanorum.
 ==Religiones==
 [[Image:Linz-Dom.jpg|thumb|200px|[[Basilica nova]]]]
 <nowiki>[[Image:PetrinumLinz20051119.jpg|thumb|200px|[[Collegium Petrinum]]]]
 'Lentia' apud 1600 urbs Lutheranorum erat, ecclesia catholica paene exstincta, sed hodie maior pars [[Ecclesia  Catholica|catholici]] sunt. 'Lentia' urbs cathedrae 'Dioecesim Lentiensem' est, cuius [[Episcopus]] [[Ludovicus  Schwarz]] ([[:de:Ludwig Schwarz]]) anno 2005 nominatus est. 'Lentia' multas ecclesias magnificas habet. In medio  urbis sita, 'Ecclesia Cathedralis Nova' ([[:de:Neuer Dom (Linz)|Neuer Dom]]), in principio XX saeculi aedificata,  maxima ecclesia Austriae est.
 Alii ecclesiae praeclarae:
 *Ecclesia parochiae urbis (Stadtpfarrkirche)
 *"Ecclesia cathedralis antiqua", ecclesia Iesuitorum
 *Ecclesia sororum Sanctae Ursulae
 *Ecclesia in [[:de:Pöstlingberg|monte Pöstlingberg]] (Basilica peregrinationis)
 *Ecclesia Sancti Martini: antiquissima ecclesia urbis Lentiae est.
 Scholam episcopatam [[Collegium Petrinum]] (a 1897) est.
 == Aedificii magnificii ==
 *Claustrum Lentia:  Museum in clausrum situm est, multos concertos in idem locum habent.
 *Museum artium 'Lentos': Novum museum situm ad danubium pro artem novam.
 *Forum
 *Aes Bruckner: Aedificium pro musica
 == Artes et Scientiae ==
 Quatuor universitates in Lentia sitae sunt:
 *Universitas Johannes Kepler: cum VII facultatibus, scil.: [[Chemica]], [[Biologia|Biologica]], [[Mathematica]],  [[Physica]], [[Oeconomia|Oeconomica]], [[Sociologia|Sociologica]] et [[Ius|Iurisprudentiae]] 
 *Universitas Theologica Catholica: cum facultatibus [[Theologia]]e et[[Philosophia]]e
 *Universitas Anton Bruckner: [[Musica]]
 *Universitas Artium: [[Ars visualis]]
 == Personae praeclarae ==
 *Antonius Bruckner (natus est in Ansfelden)
 *Adalbertus Stifter
 *Joannes Kepler
What in the world is this doing on the discussion page?--Ioshus Rocchio 17:58, 3 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
in monte "Freinberg" vocato: the hill ist called "Freinberg"; "Lentos" is a proper name!--Utilo 16:44, 13 Martii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historia
Disputatio:Falunga

message: What is a privelegia urbana?--Ioshus Rocchio 20:01, 6 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Privilegia urbana" translatio de "Stadsprivilegier" est. Cum illa privilegia (data per rege) urbs sueciae "urbs" (su: "stad") primo tempore se titulare potest. Privilegia habere importantia situationi mercantilo erat. Skvattram 20:56, 6 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :In German maybe "Stadtprivileg"? See Google and the German WP, where this term is often used. --Roland2 21:18, 6 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Is it a latin concept though? I would think it be more like "urbs facta est" than "privelegia urbana data fuit".--Ioshus Rocchio 21:22, 6 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Another term: :de:Stadtrecht. I do not know whether this is a Latin concept, but I wonder why "Stadtprivileg" is not mentioned on page :de:Stadtrecht. I think, I have never heard "Stadtprivileg" before, the word which I knew is :de:Stadtrecht.

message: Quid illud significat?--Ioshus Rocchio 21:23, 6 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lingua anglicana "During almost a thousand years the town's stones/rocks gave cupper"
thread_title:  Paene mille annis cuprum petrae urbis dabat 

message: Do you know what falun means? Falu is still a bit funny looking, but certainly much better than faluån =].--Ioshus Rocchio 23:06, 6 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They (historians) do not agree wheter it is the town that has given the river its name or the opposite: the river has given the town its name. I think that the ethymology of the word is a dative case form of an extinct Swedish word that meant "yellow-pale", but today it is just a name and that orgignal word is totally extinct.
Skvattram 00:01, 7 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  faluån 

message: Jag såg i ett latinskt-svenskt lexikon att det finns ett latinskt namn på Falun, som inte var just Falun. Men tyvärr har jag glömt vilket det var. Har för mig att det var något i stil med "Falunungen".83.227.26.212 15:41, 1 Octobris 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Namnet
Disputatio Vicipaediae:Consilium de secreto

message: This one too!--Ioshus Rocchio 23:34, 6 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

message: Et quod hominibus non comprehendentibus linguam Anglicam? Consilium de secreto non legere possunt. FranklyMyDear... (disputatio) 14:38, 14 Octobris 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Tibi suadeo igitur textum Latine vertere -- gratias agimus! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:05, 14 Octobris 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solum lingua Anglica
Disputatio:Iohannes Brahms

message: Si ad nomine Latino movete, "redirect":em create!
Skvattram 00:45, 7 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

message: Usus verborum "Musica Cameralis:
"In German it is Kammermusik, in French la musique de la chambre, in Italian musica da camera or musica per camera, and in modern Latin musica cameralis." (De Intimate Music: A History of the Idea of Chamber Music auctore Ioanne H. Baron anno 1998.) LionhardusCiampa 18:28, 13 Aprilis 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Musica Cameralis]] 

message: Opus palmare vidi hoc libre:  (dictionarium Feltrinelliensis). Praeoptatis "magnum opus"? LionhardusCiampa 18:33, 13 Aprilis 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opus Palmare 

message: Praenomen interdum "Iohannes" scribitur (vide Google). Cur ad "Ioannes" mutare necesse sit, nescio. An fontes habemus huius orthographiae? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:01, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Praenomen 

message: Meyers Großes Konversations-Lexikon, tomus 3. Lipsiae 1905, p. 307-308 (hic in interreti)
thread_title: Fons recensionis mense Iulio 2020
Disputatio:11 Septembris

message: While I'm open to another word to describe the September 11th attacks, I want to use "populatio" in this way to demonstrate the real meaning of the word. It is not a synonym for "population." Populatio impetum significat, non numerum hominium. Sinister Petrus 02:18, 7 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Populatio
Disputatio:Lugdunum

message: Massiliam hodie post Lutetiam Parisiorum Franciae maximam urbem esse vos dicere volo. 
Lugdunum Franciae tertia maxima urbs est. (http://www.insee.fr/fr/ffc/docs_ffc/IP707.pdf     vide paginam 3)
Praeterea,in Imperio Romano, Lugdunum Galliarum caput urbs fuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyon#History)

message: Et Leiden? Alias Lugdunum Batavorum: []
replies: text: De Lugduno Batavorum vide paginam discretivam.

text: Removi hunc textum "Lugdunum, aliter Lugduni". Credo id esse casum vel genitivum vel locativum. In prima sententia habemus etiamnunc Lugdunum (-i). Quid plura? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:15, 10 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Leiden
Disputatio:Poësis epica

message: I had been going to suggest moving this page to epos, but I see that IovisFulmen has been replacing that word with carmen epicum. IS there a reason for this? --Iustinus 14:15, 16 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

message: Puto me antehac Hindi videre—in Bradley's Arnold. Est India nomen melius pro civitate vel regione?
replies: text: Bona quaestio ... pro civitate, India utimur (verbum bonum, classicum [Cicero, Vergilius, aliter] et hodiernum, e nomine fluminis derivatum). An Hindia variantem etymologicam sit, an verbum significatione distincta, nescio. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:15, 9 Ianuarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :"India" ab "Hindia" a voce Persica Antiqua Hinduš ('India'), a voce Sanscritica Sindhuḥ ('Indus'). Credo autem figuram psiloticam (id est sine h) magis solitam esse in scriptis Latinis. --Iustinus 22:58, 9 Ianuarii 2009 (UTC)

text: :Hofmann India dat http://www.uni-mannheim.de/mateo/camenaref/hofmann/hof2/s0616b.html --Rafaelgarcia 23:32, 9 Ianuarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''India'' vel ''Hindia''?
Disputatio:Confirmatio

message: The German Wikipedia makes a difference between:
# :de:Konfirmation (the ceremony of the Protestants, but not a sacramentum) and 
# :de:Firmung (the sacramentum of e. g. the Roman Catholics)
It seems that this article describes a :de:Firmung. :de:Konfirmation says that both meanings are called confirmatio in Latin. --Roland2 18:49, 16 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
----
(recensio latinitatis: pessimo!)
nota correcta est. ceterum censeo: the meaning of the word "sacramentum" should be reflectet with more distinctive explainations.
faltat: confirmatio est pars sacramenti initiationis, dividus per theologia in siglum tridecimum per inventio de baptismum infantii oder so ähnlich--131.130.141.7 13:03, 7 Maii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:de:Konfirmation]] vs. [[:de:Firmung]]
Disputatio:Orcus (Terra Media)

message: The etymology of "orc" is somewhat complicated, but it seems clear that the ultimate origin is the Roman god Orcus. Consequently I have always assumed there Latin name would be Orculi, Orcani, Orcini, or the like. --Iustinus 07:50, 17 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not so sure about the etymology. Linne's term Delphinus Orca for the orc whale is, according to OED, an allusion to medieval Latin writers' reports of ferocious sea monsters. On the other hand, an allusion to Orcus is also thought possible. I would prefer Orca, -ae m., but maybe the inofficial Latin translation of Tolkien should be looked into (follow link on Dominus Anulorum)--Iovis Fulmen 08:31, 17 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Tolkien himself specifically stated that by "orc" he did not mean to refer to the existing English word orc "type of whale, sea monster" from Latin orca "killer whale", but to the root orc that occurs in Beowulf as orcneas, which almost certainly is from Latin orcus:

text: :*"I originally took the word from Old English orc (Beowulf 112 orc-neas and the gloss orc = þyrs ('ogre'), heldeofol ('hell-devil').  This is supposed not to be connected with modern English orc, ork, a name applied to various sea-beasts of the dolphin order." (Nomenclature of The Lord of the Rings.)

text: :Again, see :en:orc for a much more detailed discussion of this word-history. --Iustinus 18:24, 17 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
It would seem to be cognate with the French 'ogre' and Italian 'orco', both from Latin 'Orcus', and underworld deity, for which we already have a page. I would propose that we put the Tolkienian orcs into the second declension at the very least, and possibly combine this page with the 'Orcus' one. Matthaeus Tomlinson 09:07, 31 Decembris 2008 (UTC)

text: Writing something about orcs in this page, I was wondering which of the latin translations you all have proposed is the most appropriate. I think we'd better continue using "orc", for it doesn't come from latin "Orcus" directly, but from anglo-saxon words like we can find in Beowulf, as you have already noticed. Even if the ancient root is latin, the "orcs" we find in fables and romances are almost near to the English "ogre" or the more ancient "ork". For this reason, I've used Orc in the page, though adding also other possible translations "orcus" and "orculus" which are nearer to the pure latin. But it's only an opinion, and I ask your council and help if you think something should be changed. Thanks. Poecus 21:59, 5 Maii 2009 (UTC)

message: Nexus intervici huius paginae ducunt ad :en:Orc (Middle-earth), :it:Orchi (Tolkien) et similia, quae ad opus Tolkien spectant: cum haec pagina non tantum de persona libri illius auctoris sed generaliter de monstro mythologico tractet (vide etiam paginam discretivam), nonne oportet nexus intervicos ad :en:Orc aut :en:Ogre movere? Si putatis, uter horum dignior videtur?--Poecus (disputatio) 13:38, 18 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  De nexibus intervicis
Disputatio:Constantinopolis

message: cur debemus vocare Sanctam Sophiam coronam urbis?  suprema pars urbis Constantini Magni non invenitur apud hanc ecclesiam sed in Capitolio, quod hodie nomen habet Beyazit, et olim vocata est Philadelphion.  proxima fuerat arx antiqui Byzantii hic parti sed non erat ibi.  quid nobis agendum est?  --Kutkut16 21:42, 17 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

message: Credo hanc paginam, quae de urbe tam antiqua quam moderna agit, potius nectendam esse cum :en:Istanbul (una e 1000 paginis) quam cum :en:Constantinople. Nexus intervicianos ergo mutabo. --Fabullus 12:33, 4 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nectenda cum [[:en:Istanbul]] 

message: Linguis slavicis ergo Tsargrad, id est "Caesaris urbs", legitur. Err, hoc est maximum latinae meae. Spero, err, aliquem scribere melior (? :)).  --91.148.159.4 15:12, 11 Novembris 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Da veniam, anonyme, nemine respondente. Additionem (tuam?) e textu retraxi, non quia invalidam sit, sed quia multiplicationem nominum in prima sententia non accipimus. Debemus addere paragraphum de nominibus historicis huius urbis, incl. Slavonicam, Nordicam, etc. Id fortasse hodie facio. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:52, 20 Iunii 2010 (UTC)

text: Eo die non fecisti: date veniam, vos qui legunt. Hodie re vera facio. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:44, 27 Octobris 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  addendum? 

message: In omnibus fere Vicipaediis Byzas, qui huic urbi nomen suum dedisse traditur, Graecus e Megaris dicitur. Quo fonte? Byzantem in fontibus antiquis regem Thracem fuisse lego. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:44, 27 Octobris 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  De conditore
Disputatio:Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

message: Why do you think we should move the articles about the books into the main article? Most of these articles have 5, 6, 8 or even more interwiki links. --Roland2 17:31, 19 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes indeed most of the other Wikipedias have one article for each instalment. What made me feel uncomfortable with this order is that it is of no particular help for people seeking information about either of the books. Also, if seen in Categoria:Litteratura it seems a bit awkward having half a dozen Harry Potters next to one entry each of other authors. But maybe you are right and this is an entirely different problem (of categories?!). So I won't insist on the merger. I'll just copy this to the discussion of the page.--Iovis Fulmen 20:58, 19 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

text: I've put all into a :Categoria:Harrius Potter. Now Categoria:Litteratura looks better. ;-) --Roland2 21:41, 19 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Harrius Potter]] - contribuenda? 

message: In my opinion, it would be better to change the title to the latin name of the book. Unfortunately I don't know if and how this works.
replies: text: If the book has been published in Latin, or if there is a source off-Wikipedia for the Latin title, we can move it. We don't use invented titles as pagenames. Can you point to a source? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:23, 20 Ianuarii 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The title of the article
Disputatio:Metallum (musica)

message: Nescio si melius esse generum nomines ne transferre, atque britannicos nomines relinquere.
Non so se sia meglio non tradurre i nomi dei generi e lasciare i nomi inglesi.
I don't know if is better not to translate genres names and leave english names.
Je ne sais pas si il est mieux ne traduire pas les noms du genres et laisser les anglais noms.
replies: text: Haehae, non dicenda linguis quattuor. Latine et anglice satis sit. Fortasse vellis Vicipaedia:Translatio nominum propriorum, et Vicipaedia:Titulus. Credo te de his apellationibus anglicis dicere...
 * Grave metallum;
 * Percutens metallum;
 * Potens metallum;
 * Mortis metallum;
 * Nigrum metallum.

text: Heavy metal, deep metal?, drinking metal?, metal of death?, black metal? Me paenitet, at non in rebus metallicis sapiens sum, sunt illa nomina recta? Certus sum ut apellationes anglicae non adhibendae, sed priusquam sententiam dedero, volo de quo dicis intellegere.--Ioshus Rocchio 03:32, 20 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
--
Nomen sub generis sunt: heavy metal, thrash metal, power metal, death metal, et black metal.
Saepe in italicus sermone "metal" nomen ut "metallo" transfertur, sed sub generes non transferuntur. Cogito etiam ut fortasse in latina illa transferre melius esse cur nomines proprii non sunt.
Sed nomines quid in italico sermone non existunt in latina difficilis transferre est, et nescio ut haec transferenda sunt. --Flauius Claudius Iulianus 15:14, 20 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

text: Suggestions:
 * metallum grave
 * metallum caedens
 * metallum potestatis
 * metallum mortis
 * metallum atrum

text: The blackest black—jet-black—is ater, atra, atrum, which, in a nice twist here, may etymologically echo atrox 'atrocious, heinous, cruel, fell, dire'. IacobusAmor 18:59, 20 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomines generum

message: 201.170.173.56, noster amicus sine nomine, ait: "de + torqueo de+ torsum -> ditorsio vel ut de + mitto de+missum -> dimitto dimissum haud dis mitto." Sed vide Cassel's:
replies: text: dētorqueo -torquēre -torsi -tortum. (1) to turn away, bend aside. . . . (2) to twist anything out of its proper shape, distort.

text: distorquĕo -torquēre -torsi -tortum, to twist apart, distort

text: distortĭo -ōnis, f. (distorqueo), distortion
Et ditorsio (nomen ut videtur opinabile) caret. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:26, 6 Septembris 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Ditorsio'' vs. ''distortio''
Disputatio:Sanctes Titi

message: Santi di Tito -> Sancti Titi? Alex1011 21:18, 20 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's already attested in period sources as Sanctes Titi, no need to invent a new name:

text: ""Angelos panem fratribus ad mensam afferentes pinxit Sanctes Titi aere consanguineorum fratris Antonini Berti Florentini,'"

message: architectus aut architecta? Alex1011 12:11, 21 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have only seen it as first declension. Sourceless, and on dialup at the moment, so I can't check to be sure.--Ioshus Rocchio 12:19, 21 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Lewis Shortque verbum esse architectus dicunt, et architecta esse "a female architect." IacobusAmor 12:55, 21 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  architecta?
Disputatio:Peruvia

message: In the Age of Discovery texts I've read the country is usually Peru (indec.) or Peruvia -ae, but the adjective is usually Peruanus -a -um. --Iustinus 03:27, 23 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And as I've pointed out, the usual Spanish term is peruano.—so the preferred Latin term is probably Peruanus, unless Peruvian Latinists of the past several centuries have preferred something else. Still, the -vi- in the English term Peruvian (and the now-rare Spanish term peruviano) had to come from somewhere. Does anybody know where? IacobusAmor 12:38, 28 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Perhaps a desire to differentiate (especially in writing) the quadrisyllable  Peruĭa against, say,  *Peruja (rhyming with "alleluia") by strengthening the vowel U's off-glide to V?   —Myces Tiberinus 13:47, 28 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

message: Please see the source list I have started at Disputatio:Imperium Incae#Fontes --Iustinus 07:44, 5 Augusti 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fontes 

message: Re: "Lima . . . , caput Lima Regio":—recte "Lima . . . , caput Limae Regionis"? IacobusAmor 17:04, 10 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Capita

message: Gentilitium verbi Peruvia peruvianus (vel peruanus), -a, -um est. Vide :es:Gallito de las rocas. Iam corexit.--Le K-li 14:35, 28 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emendatio
Disputatio:Georgius Persson

message: Is it really right to use a Latinized name for a person who has not used that name for himself? I can understand the use of Latin names for kings and queens, following historic traditions within the royal houses, but not for other persons. Otherwise, shall all names be Latinized here, including names of modern athletes and rock stars? And who decides what forms to use?
Skvattram 19:15, 24 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most forms have long been standardized, ie John Ian Johannes Jan => Iohannes, James, Jim, Jake, Iakov => Iacobus, etc. In this case, Gyorgi, Jorge, George => Georgius. Others we look for attested sources, or use as close a transliteration scheme as the roman alphabet allows. Part of the intrigue of this wiki is that it doesn't always behave like other more modern ones which will allow entries in other scripts, and languages.--Ioshus Rocchio 19:30, 24 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Aaargh! The machinery just obliterated the comment I posted at approximately the same time! IacobusAmor 19:39, 24 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: See Disputatio:Suecia#G.C3.B6ran_Persson. --Rolandus 18:42, 11 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources
Disputatio:Ilium

message: Censeo usores hanc paginam adeuntes esse redirigendos ad Troiam, ubi sententia una huius paginae scribi potest.--Iovis Fulmen 06:23, 25 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
Renuo. I don't think the pages are on the same subject. Ilium is about the city; Troia is about the war. I'm inclined to move the latter to Bellum Troianum, then to make Troia a redirect page to Ilium (which is the usual Latin name of the city) and then to put "see also" references on the two pages. In fact, unless someone disagrees, I'll do it in a few days! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:12, 15 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not disagree. ;-) Sounds good. Thanks. --Rolandus 10:05, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :OK, I'm doing it now. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:21, 30 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

message: Anyone know how to say Hittite language in latin? Lingua Hattusa?--Ioshus (disp) 17:13, 30 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aha! Lingua Hetthaea...--Ioshus (disp)
thread_title:  hittite