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Disputatio Vicipaediae:Porta eruditionis/Scriptorium/Nartatio

message: I will work on it. thanks for your comments.

message: "Nartatio est ludum
replies: text: Ow!
et exercitii forma. Nivea nartatio

text: Hmm.
est valde favorabilem

text: Ow!
heims

text: Ow! ow!
ludum.

text: Ow!
Sunt fere quattuordecim vario

text: Ow!
genere

text: Ow!
nartatorium.

text: Ow!
Nivea nartatio

text: Hmm.
est idem Olympica

text: Ow! ow!
ludum.

text: Ow!
These exclamations highlight problems. Ask your teacher to explain each one and you may learn something; whether this commentarium belongs in an encyclopedia is a separate question. IacobusAmor 14:36, 4 Decembris 2007 (UTC)

text: Nivea does not mean snow. It is an adjective which means snowy. Nartatio nivea =snowy skiing makes no sense.Rafaelgarcia 16:14, 5 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ow!
Disputatio:Encaenia

message: Hanuca (sive: hanukkah, chanukah) est festum iudaeum. Per octo diebus celebratur, a die 25 mensis hebraicus Kislev ad diem 2 mensis Tebeth; est December aut finis Novembris in calendario gregoriano. Festum rebellationem successam Maccabeorum contra Graecis ab anno 168 a.I.n. ad 165 a.I.n. commemorat. Ut legendum dicit, post Greaci Templum in Hierosolyma praedaverunt, solus unus cadus parvus olei remansit per lucendo candelabrae notae "menora" in Templo. Solum erat sat per uno nocte et octo diei debebantur oleum novum recipere. Utcumque, erat miraculum et ille cadus parvus omnibus octo diebus permansit. Festum celebrare, familiae luces similes ad unae in Templo et nominatas menoras aut hanukias lucunt. Menora loca per novem candelis habet, quarum una, nominata "shamash", per lucere candelas alias utitur. In prima nocte, shamash et unam candelam regularem lucitur. Omne nocte, una plure candela additur ad sunt octo candelae et shamash in nocte ultima. Etiam est mos edere cibos coctos cum oleo significare miraculum olei. Aliqui horum ciborum sunt "latkes"- galettae frictae patatae et cibollae, et "sufganiot"- crustula completa cum conditura fructuum. In America, est festum iudaeum commercializatissimum et pueri multa dona recipiunt. Est quod sua proximitas Natali, quae etiam est commercializatissimae in America.
thread_title: ab [[Hanuca]]

message: About:
"...nomen Hebraicum חנוכה Hanoccha vel potius Hanuccha"
This is extremely dubious. There is really no basis whatsoever for the former of those two transliterations. Toddcs (disputatio) 18:38, 31 Octobris 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extremely dubious
Disputatio:Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (triumvir)

message: Marce, fortasse melior esse si hanc paginam traducamos ad Marcum Aemilium Lepidum, et si fuerunt iam ceteri Marci Aemilii Lepidi, tunc hanc paginam movenda esse ad Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (triumvir), ob normas vicipaediae (et Marcum Aemilium Lepidum creamus ut pagina discretiva). Placet tibi?--Xaverius 11:04, 5 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
Placet. Plures enim sunt Marci Aemilii Lepidi (in Wikipedia anglica non minus quam quinque). Itaque censeo paginam discretivam statim scribendam esse ( saltem cum Marco Aemilio patre consule anni 78 a.C.n. : ceteros postea addi licebit, si placebit). Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 17:10, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC)

message: Recensiones usoris 12.227.179.58 non Latine scriptae ad vandalismum spectant (partem disputationis insuper deleverat). Latinitatem restitui. Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus (disputatio) 15:08, 10 Octobris 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalismus
Disputatio:Ioannes Gutenbergus

message: Attributus est cum inventione Europaea typi mobilis. "He is credited with the European invention of movable type" is OK in English, if the concept of "European invention" means anything, but I don't think it works in Latin. I'll come back later. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:13, 6 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Latinitas

message: assembly line / Fließbandproduktion / ligne de montage / catena di montaggio: propono: serie fulta fabricatio, vel: fabricatio in serie--Utilo (disputatio) 08:53, 9 Augusti 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: vel etiam fabriacatio serialis???--Utilo (disputatio) 14:16, 11 Augusti 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  series congregationis
Disputatio:Sabrina Saga Iuvenis

message: More or less = 'In the year 2000, Sabrina founded a university'. Remember to translate idioms, not words. 'To start a university' isn't the same as 'to matriculate in a university' or 'to become a university student'.  IacobusAmor 13:59, 6 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought about that also. But they do use the idiom "to start a university" in other languages also to mean to begin attending one. -Kedemus 7 Decembris 2007 19:02 VTC
replies: text: :but not in Latin ;) --Xaverius 19:07, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Now it's been changed to "Anno 2000, Sabrina discipulam universitalem in Bostonia divenit."—This verb, divenio, isn't in my dictionary. The text could translate fairly literally something like "became a student at X University." Or perhaps the closest desired idiomatic analogy is that of starting on a journey, which might give us "Bostoniae anno 2000, Sabrina in universitatem se dedit." If you want to be precise and say she matriculated there, the dictionary offers a model that might become "Bostoniae anno 2000, Sabrina [suum] nomen in tabulas universitatis conscripsit." IacobusAmor 19:17, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anno 2000, Sabrina universitatem incepit
Disputatio:Maria Callas

message: Under the Donizetti article, instead of Lucia Lammermoori it is
 Lucia Lamyrii Montium e fabula (uxor Lamyrii MontiumThe Bride of Lammermoor anno 1819 scripta) scriptoris Scotici Gualteri Scott
Which is better? LionhardusCiampa 05:34, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lucia 

thread_title:  Notae
Disputatio:Caietanus Donizetti

message: See discussion at Maria Callas. LionhardusCiampa 05:35, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lucia translation 

message: Oops. I made Gaetanus Donizetti not knowing we had Caietanus Donizetti. Evidently, the texts should be merged under whichever name is better. IacobusAmor 14:22, 8 Septembris 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge
Disputatio:Linguae Escimaeo-Aleut

message: Morgan has Escimaicus for Eskimo as an adjective. Thus this should be Linguae Escimaicae-Aleut? Harrissimo 17:10, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: As you'll see on the page, I have suggested Linguae Escimaicae for the Eskimo subfamily (I seem to remember discussions on this word before ...). For the compound term, however, I was hoping that something shorter would be acceptable (on the lines of Indo-Europaeae as opposed to Indicae-Europaeae). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:05, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :OK. I didn't think of it like that before. Maybe it should be Escimaeo-Aleut? Or is that a little OTT - I don't mind either way. Harrissimo 18:29, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: ::Yes, I could go with that! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:07, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Bear in mind that this -sci- is going to tempt (nay, require) folks at the Vatican to pronounce Esci- as [eʃi]. The use of a K would prevent this horror. IacobusAmor 19:27, 7 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::If it matters, we could shift to Egger's esquimensis (but that only works as a noun). Anyway, the catholics can have their 'k' when they get their own wikipaedia ;) Harrissimo 18:17, 9 Decembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: :::::They don't want a K, and it's our C that they're going to mangle! IacobusAmor 18:20, 9 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::What I'm trying to say is that maybe we don't need to adjust for the modern branch in this classical encyclopedia. Harrissimo 18:27, 9 Decembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: :::::::Iacobe, I think possibly you and I have discussed this kind of issue before. My feeling is, we won't know how users pronounce their Latin. We are working in (virtual) writing, and whether they then obey classical Latin pronunciation rules is their problem. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:57, 9 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::::We seem to have differing views of a writer's relationship to readers: in my view, a writer's job is to force readers to hear (and hence pronounce) texts exactly the way the writer wants them to; many rhythmic turns can be guided by punctuation (and woe unto them that alter mine!)—but otherwise, the only arrows in our quiver are the bare letters of the alphabet. IacobusAmor 22:28, 9 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::::::I'm with you in spirit -- yes, I want people to hear the stuff I write -- but, I notice, your formulation means that every writer before the last generation, and certainly every writer of classical and medieval Latin, has failed to do his/her job. We do not hear and pronounce exactly they way they wanted us to. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:06, 12 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Bacchae

message: Quanam ratione, o usor 88.112.96.91, credis te textum facere meliorem, cum virgulas a me positas tam pertinaci studio mutas? De prima sententia agitur: "... ultimum documentum tragoediarum classicae quae dicitur aetatis nobis traditarum." Primum classicae quae dicitur aetatis sine ulla virgula scripsi; deinde tu virgula addita classicae, quae dicitur aetatis scripsisti; quod ego invicem syntactice perperam esse arbitratus in classicae, quae dicitur, aetatis mutavi; quod tu denique rursus in classicae, quae dicitur aetatis mutasti. Quia huiusmodi duella e lege Vicipaediana sunt vetita, te rogo: quam habes rationem? Si elocutionem "mediae quae dicitur aetatis" vel sim. per Google petieris, minime aut rarissime quidem "mediae, qui dicitur aetatis" scripta invenies, nam aut "mediae quae dicitur aetatis" aut "mediae, quae dicitur, aetatis" scribi solet. --Neander 00:32, 8 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Virgulam minime utilem removi. Usoribus anonymis suadeo et conventum aperire et, inter multas imperfectiones Vicipaediae, alium quid emendare! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:28, 8 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  De virgulis ponendis
Disputatio:Linguae Austroasiaticae

message: On this question, see our discussion elsewhere. The point here is that the -ianus suffix seems more readily acceptable to modern ears than what Iustinus says is the classically echt one: -ius. Vide: "Probaverunt philologi linguas austroasiaticas linguis austronesianis cognatas esse, unde postulent superfamiliam "Austrica" designatam." IacobusAmor 17:17, 8 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Wait, where and when did we have this discussion? I guess that accords with the classical Peloponesius and Proconnesius, but I don't remember declaring this. --Iustinus 10:28, 26 Iunii 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ::If this discussion is to run now, it might make more sense to move it to Disputatio:Linguae Austronesiae.
replies: text: ::On the classification issue embedded in Iacobus's comment, see meanwhile Linguae Austricae. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:21, 26 Iunii 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Austronesius, -a, -um ~ Austronesianus, -a, -um?
Disputatio:Linguae Uralicae

message: Salve, Andrea! I was wondering why you had changed back to Samoyed after Samoiedica (I presume you came across the book Chrestomathia Samoiedica too?) Because if that didn't persuade you, maybe this will? Harrissimo 18:57, 9 Decembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: I am persuaded! Change it back by all means, and let's cite the source. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:52, 9 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Samoyed = Samoiedica?
Disputatio:Tralles

message: Quickly: Tralles . . . sunt Turcorum urbs in Lydia, iuxta Maeandri fluminis ripas. 'Tralles . . . is the Turks' city in Lydia, on the banks of the Maeander River'. I took the Turks out because (1) the city's placement in Turkey is already there under Lydia, and (2) the city wasn't founded by modern Turks. You've restored the Turks. Why are they necessary here? What do they add? IacobusAmor 13:51, 11 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Turci
Disputatio:Yes (grex)

message: This new sentence seems somewhat less than a –2. Could you improve the Latin to help the translation? Contra multum sollertiam ei manui, manus continuaverat 40 annis et retinent potentem inter gentes sequentem. = 'Against much. Ingenuity for this hand, hands it had continued at forty years and they retain an ensuing powerful among the nations.' IacobusAmor 02:00, 12 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Novus periodus
Disputatio:Pollutio (medicina)

message: The title seems very odd to me, since pollutio appears to be a moral rather than a medical term and the text of the article seems to have nothing to do with medicine. But I don't have a proposal. I don't think Lucretius suggests a preferable title. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:44, 12 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Titulus

message: I understand. I took the translation of the German and Italian name. Actually also in Italian we speak of polluzioni notturne. I do not know if it does exist and we can find a Latin medical name --Massimo Macconi 13:24, 12 Decembris 2007 (UTC)--85.2.208.187 13:11, 12 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The word and its orgasmic implication appear in a medieval hymn, perhaps one suitable for compline (sung when monks are about to go to bed); it may be in the Episcopal hymnal of 1940 as translated perhaps by J. M. Neale, but right now I don't have time to go looking for it. Later! IacobusAmor 14:25, 12 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Source
Disputatio:Lingua Protoindoeuropaea

message: Fortasse debemus ad Lingua proto-Indoeuropaea movere? Hoc verbo proto- (Graeco, non Latino) utuntur philologi communiter in multis linguis ut linguam originariam familiae designent. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:59, 12 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Si elementis Graecis ut proto- et Indo- utimur, fortasse melius erit removere has o litteras extraneas, quae solum ante consonantes (et digamma) adhibendae sunt; ita, Protindeuropaea.  —Mucius Tever 15:27, 15 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Nefas est. Secunda o in proto- non omissibilis. -Roggy 21:28, 15 Decembris 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen

message: Bob A, why did you delete opinabilis? The first sentence—Protoindoeuropeaea lingua (PIE) est opinabilis mater communis linguarum Indoeuropaearum.—was translating the first sentence of :en:Proto-Indo-European language: "The Proto-Indo-European language (PIE) is the hypothetical common ancestor of the Indo-European languages." (Opinabilis = 'hypothetical, conjectural'.) Since the Latin version was made, the English has been revised to read: "The Proto-Indo-European language (PIE) is the unattested, reconstructed common ancestor of the Indo-European languages." If you were going to delete opinabilis, what's the reason you didn't insert Latin words for "unattested, reconstructed"? At least one of those hedging words (hypothetical, unattested, reconstructed) is needed as a modifier to make the sentence true. IacobusAmor 04:54, 18 Ianuarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The first sentence now says that PIE is a reconstruction expressing the relationship of the attested languages. So I think the word "opinabilis" has at last served its purpose and I've taken it away again. There is no doubt that PIE has that function. If I'm mistaken please revert. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:28, 26 Septembris 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: ''opinabilis''
Disputatio:Adoro te devote

message: Hymni verbis initium est "Adoro te devote," sed carminis nomen in hymnalibus modernis est "Adoro Devote." Sic etiam nomen hymni qui "The snow lay on the ground, The stars shone bright" incipit est "Venite Adoremus," nomen hymni qui "O little town of Bethlehem" incipit est "St. Louis," et nomen hymni qui "Onward, Christian soldiers" incipit est "St. Gertrude." Carminis verba non sunt carminis nomen. IacobusAmor 14:00, 13 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
Carminis verba incipitaria etiam carminis nomen saepe sunt. Sic "Chiare, fresche e dolci aquae" simul sticus primus et nomen Petracchi carminis est. In italianis modernis hymnalibus carminis nomen est vere "adoro te devote". Immanuela
thread_title: Carminis nomen
Disputatio:Carthago

message: Shouldn't the name of this artivle be Karthago since that was the name which was used at the time. Secondly, the letter C had not yet replaces K, so Karthago with a K would be more suitable. 91.155.81.193 17:22, 13 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, absolutely.--Ioscius (disp) 18:08, 15 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
Non est Vicipaediam Anglicam! Dic Latina.

text: Dic Latine. Harrissimo 23:43, 15 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC).

text: Vicipaedia Anglica. Wereon 21:13, 4 Octobris 2009 (UTC)
Dido sicut conditor Carthaginis urbis? Scilicet apud Vergilium, sed haud re vera. Raconensis

text: Corrige igitur! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:14, 18 Novembris 2008 (UTC)

message: Animadverto autem et Lewis & Short, et Oxford Latin Dictionary, et Thesaurum Linguae Latinae (pp. 212–213) prioritatem scripturae Carthago dare (et vide in TLL longum de scriptura commentarium). Insuper apud PHI Latin texts reperio 655 Carthag- et tantum 75 Karthag-. Quid censent alii? Lesgles (disputatio) 19:17, 28 Februarii 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It's no doubt not the most scientific measurement, but for what it's worth, Google has 657 hits for "ceterum censeo karthaginem esse delendam" against a mere 67 100 for "ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam"... Sigur (disputatio) 19:51, 28 Februarii 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  De K et C
Disputatio:Pelé

message: Titulus recte "Pele (Pedilusor)," quia hic Pele non est inclutior Pele, dea Havaiana. IacobusAmor 17:49, 13 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should have Pele as a discretiva with Pelé and Pele (dea) linking off from it.  Si? Harrissimo 17:54, 13 Decembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: :And a redirect from the athlete's nickname to Edson Arantes do Nascimento. Ecce discretiva Anglica:
replies: text: ::Pelé is the nickname of Edson Arantes do Nascimento

text: ::Pelé or Pele may also refer to:

text: ::Pele (deity), a Hawaiian volcano goddess

text: ::Mount Pelée, an active volcano in Martinique, the Caribbean

text: ::Peléan eruption, a type of volcanic eruption characterised by a pyroclastic flow

text: ::Pelé's Soccer, a 1981 video game for the Atari 2600 console system IacobusAmor 18:17, 13 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Titulus
Disputatio:Praesepe

message: Vide commentarii verba: <<Praesepe (-is, n.) est receptaculum. . . . Et reclinavit eum in praesepio.>> Quidst melius? IacobusAmor 16:38, 15 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Cognovit ... asinus praesepe domini sui..." secundum alium locum Vulgatae. --Alex1011 16:46, 15 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Praesepe, -is ~ Praesepium, -i?
Disputatio:Colonia Agrippina

message: Haec removi quia nescio ubi relevat et quia numeri Romani erronei sunt. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:49, 17 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
  2. Libraria editoria vaticana: Lexicon recentis latinitatis, Romae MCMLXLI
thread_title: Nota
Disputatio:Index nominum Latinorum hominum praeclarorum

message: Res mira: quattuor errores in quinque verbis lemmatos! "Index nominum Latinorum hominum praeclarorum" rectius dicatur. 85.180.213.102 19:15, 19 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
This page is very much in line with the sort of lists I've tried to make elsewhere. But for one so general, what names are to be included? I mean, just look at astronomus for a good sample of the number of people in just one profession who used Latin names. --Iustinus 18:30, 24 Martii 2008 (UTC)

message: Is there a need to have a page such as this at this stage of vicipaedia?--Xaverius 14:56, 11 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ratio
Disputatio:Big Ben

message: Friends, how are we going to translate Palace of Westminster, Palatii Westmonasterii or Westmonasterii Regia?  This very short lemma has it both ways! LionhardusCiampa 04:29, 20 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, Palatium Westmonasteriense? IacobusAmor 05:19, 20 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can't have it both ways
Disputatio:The Supremes

message: Is there a better way to say "RU" for United Kingdom in Latin? I am assuming Xaverius took it from the Spanish, where it is the abbreviation for Reino Unido, but I am not sure of Regnum Unitum is correct Latin. -Kedemus 04:57, 20 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :There's a looooong thread on this question somewhere. The answer is that the United Kingdom is the Regnum Britanniarum. IacobusAmor 05:25, 20 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::I say change the RUs to RBs. I am not going to do it for all of them as I do not want to get carpal tunnel syndrome, but if someone else wants to do it that would be appreciated. -Kedemus 12/22/07 03:41 in Regno Britannico.
replies: text: :::Probably BR for Britanniarum Regnum is better -Kedemus 12/22/07 03:44 UTC
thread_title: United Kingdom is NOT Regnum Unitum

message: We do not have a Latin word expressing the concept of a hit as in a hit song, so I used the neologism hitum, -i. If people do not agree with it, maybe we can render it at hit, indeclinable. What do others think? -Kedemus 05:03, 20 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to be literal, maybe ictus, -ūs, or sors, -tis. IacobusAmor 05:25, 20 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Wow Kedeme, that's one of your worst ones yet. Use some thing like latissime emptum, or venditum, or delectans, or something. Hitum or Hit indeclinable are disgusting...--Ioscius (disp) 14:37, 20 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hitum, -i

message: Necesse est unam paginam de Diana Ross habere, aliam de Supremis. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:26, 20 Decembris 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Salve Andrea. Assentio tibi, ita iam commentationem Dianam Ross creavi. -- Donatello (disputatio) 23:05, 30 Aprilis 2013 (UTC).
thread_title:  Dividere oportet
Disputatio:India

message: Just wanted to jot a note that Guzarate (apparently indecl.) occurs repeatedly in Garçiae ab Horto (interprete Clusio) Aromatum et Simplicium Aliquot Medicamentorum Apud Indos Nascentium Historia (1593). Of course since it's indeclinable its superiority to any other transliteration (or whatever Egger gives--don't have him with me) is questionable. --Iustinus 20:18, 20 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
P. 88, regarding pepper "NOMEN est Malavarica lingua Molanga, Malacitæna verò Lada" --Iustinus 20:39, 20 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gujarat &c

message: Massimo, Bengalia = Bangladesha, res publica libera, non civitatis Indiae. Novus nexus est falsus. IacobusAmor 19:39, 29 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
I believed it was at the same time an indipendent country and the near state of India--Massimo Macconi 20:18, 29 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bengalia
Disputatio:Hormon

message: Could you please help me all these words of greek origin are masculins or neutrum? Thank you--Massimo Macconi 16:24, 21 Decembris 2007 (UTC)--85.2.146.70 16:21, 21 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Secundum dictionaria varia quae possideo nomen hormon derivatum est a participio Graeco ὁρμῶν, ~ντος. Latine ergo appellandum videtur hormon, ~ntis, et id ipsum est forma quam invenimus in paginis peridodici Latini Ephemeridis, e.g. hic. Aliubi in hoc eodem periodico genus quoque huius nominis cognoscimus, legentes: "... hormon anno 1999 demum inventum, quod inter alia officia etiam hoc nobis affert, ... " Summatim: nomen hormon cui genetivus est hormontis genere est neutro. Nomina variorum hormontum (vel hormontium?) - ut etiam testosteron - exemplum sequi videntur ipsius nominis hormontis. --Fabullus 17:30, 21 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Gratia tibi ago, nunc multae emendationes facere debeo, ciao e Buona Nale e un felice 2008--Massimo Macconi 22:00, 21 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
"... aut hormonis": Nota bene, exempla ex 
Ephemeride allata non genetivum sed ablativum pluralem ostendunt. Itaque Ephemeris hormonum praebere videtur. --Neander 14:31, 25 Augusti 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genus hormon- is, testoteron, - is etc
Disputatio:Propheta

message: #Quomodo censetis opportere dissimilitudinem inter prophetam et vatem explicare? Scilicet vates fert poetae pondus, at nonnumquam sensus similis est.
#Mea sententia, quia propheta saepe refert deos qui non sunt Deus, scribatur nomen miniscula littera incipiente.
--Ioscius (disp) 18:47, 25 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: de duabus rebus