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Disputatio:Winnie ille Pu

message: Discipulus(a) Latinus(a) sum. Veniam vestram peto ut hanc paginam lente scribam. Erit auxilio mihi in Latina discenda. Gratis vobis ago.
-- Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:51, 1 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

message: Hello. Norstedts Swedish-Latin dictionary (latest edition of 2009) has for Winnie The Pooh (called Nalle Puh in Swedish) two Latin names. "Nalle ille Pu" (no declination mentioned) for Swedish edition, and Winnie ille Pu (also no declination mentioned) for English edition. This character was created by A. A. Milne, a man from England, so I guess the books about Winnie must be in English, and because English is the most used language, Winnie ille Pu might be the normal name to use. Of course other Latin names of other editions can be mentioned in parathesis. Or what do you think?
Donatello (disputatio) 15:48, 2 Octobris 2013 (UTC).
thread_title:  Other Latin names
Disputatio:Lucronium

message: Dudo mucho que Iuliobrica sea Logroño en latín, cuando su etimología nos dice que proviene de Lucronium, o incluso según historiadores de "Lucus Brun/Lucus Beronius" ("Lugar sagrado en el bosque berón"). Las tesis más aceptadas parecen indicar que el nombre es una latinización tardía por prefijación del artículo "lo/illo" al antiguo topónimo Gronio/Gronno , palabra de origen celta que significa el vado o el paso. --80.59.40.212 18:35, 3 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the evidence for this is very thin, a short mention in Pliny the Elder's book 3: regio Ilergaonum, Hiberus amnis, navigabili commercio dives, ortus in Cantabris haut procul oppido Iuliobrica, per CCCCL p. fluens, navium per CCLX a Vareia --Xaverius 19:29, 3 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
Perdona que no me exprese en latín, ya que lo tengo algo oxidado. Con respecto al nombre de Logroño, donde nací y llevo viviendo 40 años, esta es la primera vez que veo tal referencia. He buscado por internet y he encontrado esto donde en la página 3 y siguientes sitúa "Iuliobrica" en el nacimiento del río Ebro, es decir, en Cantabria, a muchos km. de la capital de La Rioja. Saludos --80.59.40.212 23:45, 3 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

text: Contesté en mi disputatio.--Xaverius 19:05, 4 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Veo que la página se va a borrar...creo que sería más lógico cambiar elnombre por "Lucronium", que es por lo visto el latinismo más usado para nombrar a Logroño. --80.59.40.212 22:45, 5 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

message: Xaveri, proderitne haec esse redirectio? Modo conor purgare :Categoria:Deletiones propositae.--Ioscius (disp) 05:24, 12 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  redirectio
Disputatio:Arrius Nurus

message: Carissimi amici linguae latinae!
Divulgandus est omnibus vobis

message: cum orationibus de cultura linguaque latina a temporibus praeteritis usque hodie. Referebunt oratores illustres ex diversis terris et expositio erit visitanda in civitate Sangallensi, ubi C. Arrius Nurus ultimam partem vitae degebat.
Libellus programmatis videndus est per Google "Lateinischer Kulturmonat" aut sub titulo "www.kb.sg.ch - Aktuell"
Salvete!
Felix Sachs
Reherstrasse 8a
CH-9016 St. Gallen
www.nachhilfe-st-gallen.ch
thread_title:  "MENSIS CULTURAE LATINAE "IX novembris usque ad VIII decembris (Kulturmonat)
Disputatio:Schizophrenia

message: Nonne est pro hac pagina schizophrenia (σχιζοφρένεια)  nomen aptior quam descriptio medicalis Morbus dissidentiae phreneticae?--Rafaelgarcia 19:47, 5 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, where does this terminology come from? --Iustinus 06:41, 25 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Lemma hodie refecimus, quia fontem verbi schizophreniae in LRL (Morgan) habemus. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:39, 27 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Locutionem Morbus dissidentiae phreneticae nunc delevimus; si fons inveniatur, scriptoribus eam restituere licet. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:23, 27 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Morbus dissidentiae phreneticae
Disputatio:Gibraltaria

message: Nonne nomen coloniae (et ergo commentarii) recte Gibraltar vel similis? IacobusAmor 19:07, 6 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Credo te recte iudicavisse. Mons est fortasse Calpe, sed urbs et colonia Gibraltar. Si nemo disputat, moveamus. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:35, 25 Iulii 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: :Fontem hodie nominis "Gibraltariae" repperi et rursus movi! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:39, 27 Septembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Ut videtur in Wikipedia, territorium Gibraltaria, saxum Calpe est. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 20:30, 13 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Thylacinus cynocephalus

message: Its basic sense is 'Of, or belonging to, homeborn slave women'; its secondary sense is 'of, or belonging to, native, domestic, indigenous (female) things'. What are you trying to say? and why? Vicipaedia's style is ordinarily to put such information right after the lemma, as it was before you changed it, and not to have separate headings for translations into other languages. IacobusAmor 18:16, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your change removed one of a pair of commas, so now you've got an unmatched comma left over. IacobusAmor 18:19, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
*The tought was to create somekind of informationstyle (usable in other biological articles as well) to use seperately from the tekst, often the common name like: Tasmanian tiger is given to the species befor the Latinname, the header vernacularum ((i don't know if it's the right term for it? - on wikispecies they call it Vernacularia)) could be a place for the commonnames - in deferent languages, Hendricus 19:00, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

text: That might be useful, but it conflicts with the style of Vicipaedia everywhere else, so you might wait for others to agree or disagree before you implement it further. ¶ Vernacularia is neuter nominative plural; vernacularum is feminine genitive plural. IacobusAmor 19:24, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
*Every wikipedia project have it's own style, because were Latin it could be a more scientific point of vieuw, giving the common english name (or Australian) it's a point of information, not specific part of tekst about the subject, Hendricus 19:57, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

text: In Vicipaedia, alternate names appear immediately after the lemma. By "everywhere else," I meant "everywhere else in Vicipaedia, the Latin wikipedia." IacobusAmor 20:19, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :There is a tendency to restrict info about other-language names in Vicipaedia articles to languages that are very closely relevant to the subject. It's easily seen that if we don't do this, many language names might seem interesting, and articles would become overburdened with foreign names. Also, Vicipaedia would not be a good or reliable source of information about the exact meanings of words in other languages.

text: :I say this regretfully (I'm a multilinguist at heart) but I think our current practice is probably right. The best routes to this information (I think) are (a) Wiktionary, and (b) the interwiki links. If (c) Wikispecies does it too, there's another source! So I advise against creating sections of other-language names here.

text: :And so, for this article, the only relevant name will be English (unless by chance someone recorded a name for it in one of the Tasmanian languages). And, yes, the English name can go into the early part of the article, with no need for a separate section. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:14, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

text: :Ok, keep the english name at the beginning of the tekst then - indeed the aboriginal name for it would be very interesting, Hendricus 20:58, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vernacularum
Disputatio:Thylacinus

message: And this one? (Hint: exstincta can't go with genus.) IacobusAmor 20:26, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
*Why not?Hendricus 20:49, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: : Adjectives have to agree with the noun they are referring to in case, number and gender. genus (generis n.) is nominative singular neutrum. Therefore, the adjective must be in nominative singular neutrum form as well, which gives exstinctum. --UV 21:40, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Ok, thanks - that's clear, Hendricus 21:50, 7 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Thylacinus (Anglice: Tasmanian wolf; Tasmanian tiger), est exstincta marsupialium carnivorum Tasmanianorum genus.
Disputatio:Croatia

message: why do you use res publica croatica and not res publica croatia?why do you use adjective,why not a noun croatia?
replies: text: Latinitatis causa. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:43, 15 Iulii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :very informative answer; you claim that respublica croatiCa is the correct form, but why is then that in every official document written (partially or completely) in latin it says: "Res publica Croatia" ? Just google "res publica croatia" and you'll find documents about university of zagreb and such, for example: mudrac.ffzg.hr/~szbor/Zakoni/Zakon_nazivi.pdf (on the top of the first page it says Res publica Croatia) [ Anon ]
replies: text: ::OK, thanks, that's exactly what we need. If modern Latin sources, especially official ones, say "Res publica Croatia", we accept their ruling. If you can cite one or two more, just to confirm, that will help. I have now made the change you propose. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:12, 23 Novembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: :::I’ve changed the page attesting "res publica Croatia", not because of objections against "res publica Croatia", but against a page featuring something like "congregatio Croaticum" (horribile dictu).--Utilo 16:04, 23 Novembris 2011 (UTC)

message: Croatia bene sed Illyria aut Dalmatia sunt quas Octavus Gognacci scripsi.  Croatia bene, sed modo medium aptetur.  Croatia et non Dalmatia utemur.  Simul, Louisiana et not Lodoviciana utamur.  Dicite me quod rentur.
replies: text: Quis est Octavus Gognacci? Eum non possum googlere. Quid cum Croatia Lodoviciana habet? Quid significat "quod rentur"? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:42, 15 Iulii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Andrew: reor, reri, ratus (deponent), Anglice: 'reckon, think, suppose, judge'. So Dicite me quod rentur 'Call me what they suppose', 'Tell of me what they guess'? (Wouldn't 'Tell me what they think' be Dicite mihi quod rentur?) IacobusAmor 12:52, 15 Iulii 2008 (UTC)
OCTAVIVS CAGNACCI [1873-1903 post Chr.], "Sacrae Missiones in Illyrico et in Dalmatia" 
De temperatione cogito.  Nomen "Croatia" video et bene est.  Nomen "Dalmatia" non requirimus.  Hodie Dalmatia Croatia appelletur.  De autem Louisiana temperationem diversam perpellunt.  Non bene.  
Quod rentur = idioma
Dicite me quod (magistri dominive qui hic sunt) rentur.

text: Quid dicam? Dalmatia et Illyricum sunt nomina historica; debemus igitur explicare ea. Habemus Dalmatia (provincia Romana) et Illyricum; et cum de rebus hodiernis scribere oportet habemus Croatia. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:14, 15 Iulii 2008 (UTC)
==Disportus==
Quid significat hoc nomen arcanum? IacobusAmor 02:20, 18 Iunii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomen 

message: Quid significat hoc nomen arcanum? IacobusAmor 02:20, 18 Iunii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Disportus
Disputatio:Arthurus Toscanini

message: Lionharde, according to the information attached to the scan, that photo was taken in 2007. IacobusAmor 03:25, 8 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Iacobe, that's strange, somehow the 2007 got dropped.  If I did it, I didn't mean to!  Then again, it's not so relevant, in my opinion.  I'd be much more interested to know the year of the first photo.  In any case, if somehow I'm responsible for having deleted the 2007 which you so graciously supplied, it wasn't my intention. LionhardusCiampa 03:35, 8 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photographiae annus
Disputatio:Bezirk Mitte (regio Berolinensis)

message: Alex, quid dicis? Volo in Media (Berolinum) mutare, quia etiam exsistit regio Iraniae antiquae bene cognita sub eodem nomine Media. Debeo etiam paginam discretivam facere. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:06, 9 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Burgi incluti in CFA te admoneo: Media (Pennsylvania). IacobusAmor 14:54, 9 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Movi ad "Media (regio Berolini)", ut verbum Latinum sit. --Alex1011 12:47, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Gratias, Alex. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:52, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio Vicipaediae:Porta eruditionis/Scriptorium/Anaticula Cumminosa

message: Salvete, Discipula Latina sum. Creavi hanc [aginam pro studiis Latinis meis et contituo pergam hanc institutere. Omnes vos quaeso ut liceat mihi hic laborare sine editionibus externis. -- [Mollyy15]
replies: text: Vide, s.t.p., commentum meum apud Disputatio Usoris:Analeigh. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:50, 9 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

message: have to do with a bona fide user. Everybody after two hours of Latin understands that such a sentence Decor quod Bestia est a Disney fabula super a vomica vir quisnam can tantum procedo of suus vomica insquequo is perce... has nothing to do with the Latin language. The same is true for the other three pages (serrae, CSI et Anaticula cumminosa): --Massimo Macconi 19:17, 9 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said at Disputatio:Pulchra puella et bestia (pellicula), I think your conclusion is wrong, Massimo. These are real users. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:40, 9 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Does this page really need a delenda? The latinity doesn't look so bad. Nice page to have too. Harrissimo.
thread_title:  == In any case I do not believe we ... == 

message: progenies is 'race' in the sense of 'lineage, family'.  A 'race' that people run is perhaps a curriculum. 67.174.182.149 19:45, 18 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: progenies

message: Rectum sit "anascula cumminea". --Alex1011 20:14, 18 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ecce verba Fabulli! Et unde venit "cumminea", mi Alex? Non invenio apud Words aut L&S. Harrissimo 20:54, 18 Decembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: :E nostra vicipedia: ursa cumminea. --Alex1011 22:35, 18 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::I have found (C/G)umminos- in Words, which says it is from Pliny. There ae also several German & English lexicons which recommend it. Cummineus and Gummineus are found in higher numbers but are pretty much all about somebody called Cummineus Albus - virtually nothing from authors or dictionaries. Normal google yields absolutely nothing except about the Ursi and Ursae. I think that gumminosus is backed up the best. Harrissimo 13:54, 22 Decembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: :::Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary's etymology of gum takes the word back to Latin cummi and gummi, from Greek kommi, reflecting Egyptian qmy.t. Maybe Iustinus can tell us what Egyptian q typically becomes in Latin. IacobusAmor 14:14, 22 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Aegidius abbas

message: Is "eremita" invariable, or must it agree in gender and number ("eremitus -a -um")? LionhardusCiampa 04:31, 10 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: , -ae, masc.; it is from a Greek word in -ιτης.  —Mucius Tever 18:09, 10 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: : Ah, so it's like poeta, pilota, ... Thanks! LionhardusCiampa 00:18, 11 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eremita, eremitus ...
Disputatio:Nicolaus Flamellus

message: In bibliothecis complures tituli inveniri possunt librorum a Nicolao Flamello scriptorum: abhinc nomen Latinum sumpsi. In versione Latina tamen libri Harrius Potter et lapis philosophi nomen eius redditum est ut Nicolas (indecl.) Flamelus (-i). --Fabullus 11:58, 10 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: De nomine eius Latino
Disputatio:Gulielmus Friedemann Bach

message: Under Gulielmus I see that there are 16 different variants to this name.  I suppose people will say that I should be using Wilhelmus here.  What can I say, I'm Italian, so Guglielmus is the one that looks most right to me.  Advice? LionhardusCiampa 15:16, 13 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My advice:

text: *Name preference: I think Gulielmus is the one we use most commonly. From searching a few of the 16 possibles, it seems that most of the other 15 have just 1 or 2 pages of results, whereas Gulielmus has 11+.

text: *Uniformity: We definitely need just one to use (except for when aforementioned attestations crop up) and calling somebody Wilhelmus just because they spoke German is just going to ruin uniformity.

text: *How to keep uniformity: If the added 'g' is unattested, run it through Google and GoogleBooks and, if not there, move the page.

text: *This page: From Google and GoogleBooks, there are no results for 'Guglielmus Bach' or 'Guglielmus Fridericus Bach' (discounting ones from inside vicipaedia). So it should probably be moved to Gulielmus Fridericus Bach.

text: I have based my argument for Gulielmus purely on the number of times it i used here... I know some disagree that 'just because we have something written very often here, that makes it correct'. So does anyone think Gulielmus isn't the best option? Harrissimo 18:50, 4 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC).
thread_title:  Gu[g]lielmus
Disputatio:Rhenus

message: Eisenberg quaerit: "fluvius (which currently redirects to flumen - is there a difference?)"—Secundum L&S: fluvius est "much less freq. than flumen; not in Caes., who employs flumen several hundred times." IacobusAmor 22:13, 13 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ''flumen'' vs. ''fluvius''
Disputatio:Apologus

message: I'm sorry, Kerry, I don't understand this at all... This should start something like 
Fabula est narratio eventuum, plerumque fictivorum...
Tristis, is, e, is a 3rd declension noun, ab takes ablative not accusative (it should probably be "de" anyways), and I can't find imprecora in my dictionary... --Ioscius (disp) 16:42, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

message: Salve. Forsan ignorans sum, sed ut commentationem dicit: "Personae saepe bestiae sunt." Fabulae ita sunt?
Donatello (disputatio) 16:34, 2 Decembris 2012 (UTC).
replies: text: This is more a definition of the English fable; the Latin fabula is much broader, so this article should be expanded. Lesgles (disputatio) 03:27, 16 Septembris 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  De fabula
Disputatio:Donalismus

message: Why delenda? Is the latinitas too bad? If somebody thought it was one of those crackpot story things, it actually corresponds to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donalism. Harrissimo 20:40, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: Sorry, Massimo! Didn't see your reason in the nuper mutata! Harrissimo 20:42, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: :No problem Harrissimo. On en.wiki there are a lot of disclaimer about donalism that I reproduce:

text: This article does not cite any references or sources. (November 2007)

text: Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unverifiable material may be challenged and removed.

text: The truthfulness of this article has been questioned.

text: It is believed that some or all of its content might constitute a hoax.

text: Please add reliable sources for the claims in the article or comment on the article's talk page.

text: This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.
replies: text: ::Yes, definitely looks like a hoax. Delete away! Harrissimo 20:51, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC).

message: The one source cited on en:wiki is a book by Benson: if you look at this book on Amazon, it is clearly a work of fiction (looks like future/science fiction, but not sure). So could this be a correct article about a fictional religion? We can permit those, if properly referenced: how nice to begin a category :Categoria:Religiones ficticiae. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 22:55, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I take it back. The Google hits for Donalism are misprints. The contributor on en:wiki is probably hoaxing. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 23:00, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Well, is it fiction?
Disputatio:Ioannes Eduardus Gray

message: I wanted the color gray, and you sent me to this unwanted place. Please rethink your redirecting. IacobusAmor 18:10, 16 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But surely this is a latin wikipedia and saying that græy must be redirected to caesius is like saying that tür, door and θυρα all should redirect to ianua. I only say this because proper names differ to the nouns which are different across the languages. Gray should be a disambiguation - you are right that this page is the wrong redirect - but the full disambiguation must be made. I'll start now. Harrissimo 18:58, 16 Novembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: :Yes, I was implying that general terms should redirect to disambiguation pages. Not all, though: if you type "New York" in the box and click "Ire," guess where you go. IacobusAmor 19:05, 16 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Cool! Harrissimo 19:16, 16 Novembris 2007 (UTC).
thread_title: Redirects
Disputatio:Canus

message: Ater is coal-black, the opposite of albus, yet the illustration shows it to be merely a variety of gray. IacobusAmor 18:19, 16 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ater non est canus

message: Ave. Lexicon meum, lexicon Vilborgianum, Suetice-Latine, editio secunda, 2009, dicit de colore cano:
replies: text: grey * gríseus; white- canus; ash- cinéreus; grey hair can|i (-orum) mpl, caníti|es (-ei) f
Suetice dicit, sed hic in Anglica translati. Signum * ut fortasse scitis significat mediaevale verbum creatum est.
Pro Vicipaedia Latina et cetera omnis lingua Latina, quid censetis sive scitis huius de colore cano?
Donatello (disputatio) 20:37, 23 Decembris 2012 (UTC).
thread_title:  Dictum Lexicon Vilborgianum
Disputatio:Lingua Latina archaica

message: Harrisime, fuit nullum bellum civile anno 672 a.C.n. Visne "ab anno 672 a.C.n. ad primum bellum civile (83 a.C.n.)" dicere? Tum cur 672 et non 753?--Xaverius 09:12, 17 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The source may have misled me. It isn't very specific but does say 672 for some reason. Harrissimo 11:01, 17 Novembris 2007 (UTC).
replies: text: :Harrisime, annum datum in fonte est in calendario Romano, ita est anno 672 ab Urbe Condita (=81 a.C.n.)! :-) --Xaverius 12:42, 17 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Vae mihi! Harrissimo 13:54, 17 Novembris 2007 (UTC).

message: I must say that in the present form, the article is a bizarre collection of archaic, dialectal and reconstructed pre-Latin forms! As I understand it, Archaic Latin is the Latin of Plautus, Terentius, Naevius, Accius, Legg XII tabularum, parts of Cicero's De legibus etc. For example, it doesn't look like being a good idea to subsume Pre-rhotacismic (i.e., pre-350 BC) forms, such as -asom (> -arum) under the same title as Plautine-archaic Latin. /// I tried to find (but of course didn't find) a formula to the effect of prefixing the article with a caveat: The science of the present article is suspect. Indeed, there's much work to do, if the article is to serve a serious purpose. --Neander 20:16, 16 Septembris 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lingua Latina archaica?
Disputatio:Lingua Latina iuridica

message: Videtur haec non esse commentatio, sed index nexuum interviciorum . . . --Ioscius (disp) 16:08, 17 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

message: should I modify all the voices with J in i exempli gratia ius and not Jus?--Massimo Macconi 07:29, 26 Iulii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: good idea, I made the changes. --UV 13:03, 26 Iulii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  J/i