lflage/wiki-talks huggingface dataset:
Disputatio:Where Have All the Flowers Gone?

message: In my days at school (which long pre-date the internet as we know it) we had latin lyrics of "where have all the flowers gone" - the lines I remember were "dic me ubi sunt flores" and "quando intelleget?" - I wonder if anyone still remembers those lyrics and may have a copy to add them to the latin page. 09:36, 21 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It would probably be "dic mihi ..." If the Latin lyrics were published somewhere, we could use them for the article title. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:20, 21 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: :By Instant Messinger, I've asked Joe Hickerson, who completed the lyrics, if he knows of a Latin version. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 15:54, 21 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  latin lyrics
Disputatio:Angeli Caso

message: Volui aliam imaginem illius Caso invenire, sed, ut videtur, non exstat in Communis.  Nec potui imagines librorum invenire.  Misi ergo imaginem (satis pulcram) urbis ubi nata est;  si quis meliorem habet, quaeso, hic mitte!  A. Mahoney (disputatio) 14:16, 6 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Feci id quod de politicis meis interdum facio: effigiem restrictam creavi et apud Vicidata substitui. Nescio an hic utile sit.

text: Nescio an nobis licet eam "Angeli" appellare et verbo singulari construere. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:27, 6 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :Usually it is short for "María de los Ángeles," but I don't know if that is the case here. Similar problems with Dolores and Mercedes. Lesgles (disputatio) 22:04, 6 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  De illustratione
Disputatio:Thorax orthopaedicus

message: Haec pagina mihi ad nihil utilis esse videtur. Nomen latinum non est ostentatum et methodos descripta hodie est obsoleta. Itaque deletionem paginae propono. Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 20:23, 8 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletionem propono
Disputatio:Leitmotiv

message: Vocabulum Leitmotif alienum mi videtur esse. Nonne theodiscum est eodemque modo scribendum ac in lingua theodisca solet scribi: Leitmotiv? --Bavarese (disputatio) 23:04, 8 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Vide en: <<The spelling leitmotif is an anglicization of the German Leitmotiv, literally meaning "leading motif", or perhaps more accurately, "guiding motif". A musical motif has been defined as a "short musical idea . . . melodic, harmonic, or rhythmic, or all three", a salient recurring figure, musical fragment or succession of notes that has some special importance in or is characteristic of a composition: "the smallest structural unit possessing thematic identity.">> IacobusAmor (disputatio) 11:12, 9 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :De qua causa attrahimus 'an anglicization of the German Leitmotiv'? --Bavarese (disputatio) 11:25, 9 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :: Credo causam esse, quod titulus huius commentationis ab homine Anglophono inventus est. Sed non est, cur vicipaedia Latina contra alias wikipedias forma anglicissanti utatur. Neander (disputatio) 18:18, 9 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Nescimus ubi LilyKitty, primus auctor, habitaret, vel qualis lingua patrius sermo esset, sed sane quod malumus erit locutio pura Latinitate concepta: exemplar ducens (a Theodisca)? idea ficta (a Francica)? phrasis ficta? notae adiunctae? notae propriae? argumentum proprium? thema proprium? vel tantum res propria? vel . . . ? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 19:16, 9 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leitmotif?
Disputatio:Autobiography of a Yogi

message: Amice, pro "in quo auctor describit viam ducat a Swami suus," in animo habebas "in quo auctor describit viam a swami suo ductam"? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:53, 10 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ita, gratias tibi ago o Iacobus et me paenitet. Emendem ita.--Jondel (disputatio) 13:33, 10 Novembris 2015 (UTC)

text: Iam confeci.--Jondel (disputatio) 13:16, 12 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Verbum ''ducat'' (fuit ''decet'')?
Disputatio:Ante praesentem

message: Praesens (scil. annus)? Credebam praesens (scil. tempus) usitate nomen neutrius generis esse. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 22:48, 14 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ita, "annum" intellegi (haec est enim mensura annorum). Sed fontem Latinum non iam repperi. Vide s.t.p., o amice, mutationem quam nuper in pagina "Datatio" feci: an recte?

text: Fortasse ad "Ante praesentem annum" movere oportet; quam locutionem saepe reperimus, sed non hoc contextu. In textibus nostris nihilominus brevius "ante praesentem" sive "a.p." dicere possumus quia numerum anni semper anteponimus. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:57, 15 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :The phrase appears to be ante praesens [tempus?] in a source from 1772. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:39, 12 Iulii 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Well, but, as I said, one can also find "ante praesentem annum". Neither phrase, in cases I have seen, really refers to the same era as the modern terms "BP" (etc.), because no one then imagined these archaeological and palaeontological eras.

text: ::I repeat that we are talking specifically about years, not about a vague time. So I don't see any strong reason to move without a more relevant citation. Possibly some article in Ephemeris uses this era?

text: ::If we can't find one, would you think "Ante praesentem annum" a more comfortable solution? That would be fine by me. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:37, 12 Iulii 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Genus?
Disputatio:Municipia Estoniae

message: Plura nomina hic adhibita sunt inspicienda. Saepe fons extra-Vicipaedianus non datur, et saepe nomina secundum etymologiam convertuntur, contra morem nostrum. Lesgles (disputatio) 01:32, 15 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Recte dicis. Editores interdum enumerationes nominum "Latinorum" sine fontibus inserunt. Haud suadeo tales indices delendos esse ... sed cui nexus rubros caeruleos redderit oportet aut fontem reperire, aut nomine indigenarum uti. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:36, 15 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :Auctor, ut videtur, est noster geographus sine nomine, qui nomina Latina proprietatibus geographicis saepe tribuit. Vide, exempli gratia, indicem provinciarum in Aequatoria et indices "Nomen Indigenici ethnici circuli Latinizatum" (!) appellatos in Columbia sub inscriptione "Ethnographia." IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:22, 15 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  De nominibus
Disputatio:Platea Civitatum Foederatarum

message: The category Statua Libertatis makes no sense here, with the text as we have it, so I deleted it. I checked the English page, and there was indeed a connection between this location and the Statue of Liberty back in the 19th century, but we'd have to add an explanation of that if we wanted to justify the category. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:39, 16 Octobris 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category
Disputatio:Res publica popularis Donetskensis

message: Nota:
replies: text: de: ist eine proklamierte Republik ohne internationale Anerkennung

text: en: is an unrecognized state

text: fr:  est un État sécessionniste 
Et nota bene

text: es: "Su soberanía no ha sido reconocida por ningún otro estado, y la Procuraduría General ucraniana la ha catalagado como «organización terrorista».
Ergo, fortasse melius ad tempus: "est civitas non rite agnita." IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:39, 15 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: "est civitas"

message: Donetzensis in binominibus de Donetz fluvio nec de Donetsk/Donetzk urbe derivatum esse mihi videtur. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 12:25, 25 Martii 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, mihi videtur te recte dicere, mi Demetri! Hic, haud facile lectu,pagina 819 in descriptione biologica verba habes "RSS Ucr., regio Donetskensis, districtus Volodarskensis ... districtus Novoazovskensis". Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:56, 25 Martii 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: : Gratias! Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 13:22, 25 Martii 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: De adiectivo
Disputatio:Tulle gras

message: Ego hanc paginam superfluam esse puto et ad deletionem propono. Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 20:15, 16 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The accepted existence of numerous articles on tiny little hamlets undercuts any characterization of superfluity almost anywhere. Why should Vicipaedia have an article on an out-of-the-way aggregate of twelve people, but not one on a medical product that has helped millions? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:29, 17 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :Argumentum e rebus extraneis (Other stuff exists) Vicipaediani reicere solent. Hanc autem paginam, heri neglectam, hodie auctam et fontibus pluribus munitam, acceperim ego :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:52, 17 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Pagina superflua ?
Disputatio:Beowulf

message: In proelio vulnus factus sepultusque in tumulo est a suis. = 'A wound in battle was mood and byried in a mound by its own people'. ("Mood and byried" to show that factus and sepultus can't modify the neuter noun vulnus, but they have to, so they do, kicking & screaming all the way.) IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:14, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammatica

message: The Latin translation (see the archive.org link, which gives the whole book) is said to be not very good, but it does have a good index and a full index of names. These should be useful to anyone wanting to retell the story in Latin ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:25, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Pace Fabullo, editorum optimo, titulum Beowulf restituo quia "Beowulfus" (in editione bilingui quam citabat) est nomen herois, non titulus cantilenae. Si autem alii fontes tituli Latini reperiuntur, rursus movere licet. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:14, 30 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomina
Disputatio:Draco (Beowulfus)

message: Ecce:
replies: text: relinquentes Wiglaf dimicare in latere Beowulf

text: leaving Wiglaf to fight beside Beowulf
That seems so literal it wants to be pointed out! IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:26, 22 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :? Anything wrong ? I will be adding 'only/solum'.--Jondel (disputatio) 13:04, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Lingua Anglica latens
Disputatio:Christina Fernández de Kirchner

message: Vide hic: "First Lady is an unofficial title used for the wife or hostess of a non-monarchical head of state or chief executive." The Spanish wiki is more nuanced: "La primera dama es, en determinados Estados, la mujer o cónyuge del presidente de ese país, o en su defecto, alguien que cumple esa función en ceremonias oficiales." IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:34, 22 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That's all very fine: calquing the term into Latin is not. Notice the ambiguity: are we saying that she is the prima donna of Argentina? It's better to say plainly and factually that she was the president's wife (and that he was the president's husband). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:29, 22 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :The Finnish, French, Indonesian, and Spanish (and other) wikis have no problem with calquing it; the Albanian, German, and Italian ones retain the English; the Russian goes halfway (Первая леди). The articles  Prima domina (cantrix) and Prima domina (uxor) can take care of the ambiguity! IacobusAmor (disputatio) 19:40, 22 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: ::My solution's simpler. No piped link needed. No need to hunt for a source at the projected and sexist Prima domina (uxor). You maybe didn't notice the sourcing problems already flagged at English and Spanish "first Argentinian significant other" lists.

text: ::The discussions under way on en:wiki about whether Bill Clinton will be called first gentleman are quite amusing, incidentally. But it may never come to that :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:12, 22 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: "Quomodo 'prima domina'?"
Disputatio:Orphismus

message: In "Nomine Orphismi tandem diversi generis cultus ac sectae amplectuntur," quid amplectuntur hi cultus ac sectae? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 11:36, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Verbum deponens?

message: Hoc "u. a. (Hrsg.)" = "et al. (eds.)"? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 11:38, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ita, o amice. Multi conversionem bibliographiarum omittunt! Partim nunc converti ego. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:14, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: u. a. (Hrsg.)
Disputatio:Scylaceum

message: Secundum disputationes in aliis paginis factas, ego mentionem aliorum nominum in notam posui, in summario "alia nomina iam in nota reperiuntur" scribens. Nuada, tu, rationem non dans, haec nomina restituisti. Num vere tot nomina mediaevalia in hoc loco conspicuo requirimus? Lesgles (disputatio) 22:21, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Responso non dato, versionem priorem paragraphi restitui. Lesgles (disputatio) 19:13, 5 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: : Per i toponimi italiani è diverso. Si è sempre scelto di aggiungerli tutti e non in notaDriante70 (disputatio) 13:29, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Haec autem est encyclopaedia internationalis: non est, cur facies paginarum de urbibus Italicis ab aliis differant. Prima sententia simplex et legibilis esse debet. Norma nostra est lemmata vel unum vel duo praebere, casibus rarissimis tres. Si de nominibus pluribus in textu explicare necesse est, id sub rubrica "Nomen" aut "Etymologia" post sententias primas fieri potest. Si fontes nomina utilia plura praebent, nomina superflua in notis subiunctis scribenda sunt. Rursus ergo reverto. Plura de hac re in paginam disputationis tuam scribe, si vis. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:43, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multitudo nominum
Disputatio:Benedictio urbi et orbi

message: Appellatio Benedictio urbi et orbi - nomine casús dativi sine ulla coniunctione ad casum nominativum posito - mihi haud latinum videtur esse. Quod suadeo, est: vel vocabula urbi et orbi ut nomen proprium huius benedictionis declaranda sunt (e. g.: benedictio urbi et orbi), vel aliquod verbum temporale addatur casum dativum postulans (e. g.: benedictio urbi et orbi provisa). Quid vos, o sodales, censetis? --Bavarese (disputatio) 18:00, 29 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benedictio urbi et orbi
Disputatio:Cold Spring (Novum Eboracum)

message: UV, in substituting some newfangled item (of uncertain utility, since its link takes readers to a table defined in a language other than Latin) for the capsa coloniae, you seem to be eliminating some images; for example, in this article you've cut the image at the right, showing Main Street in the town. Why don't you want the article to show that scene? Is the gain greater than the loss? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:07, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: The baby and the bathwater?
Disputatio:Consilium Oecumenicum Ecclesiarum

message: Non "concilium" sed "consilium" appellari oportet. Hoc enim vocabulo designantur Consilium Europae, Consilium Foederale Helvetiae, Consilium Foederale Germaniae, [Consilium Nationale]], Consilium securitatis ... Nec confundi oportet cum conciliis ecclesiasticis praesertim oecumenicis. Lingua anglica, in qua "Council" vel consilium vel concilium significat, dicitur "World Council of Churches", sed italice "Consiglio Mondiale delle Chiese", hispanice "Consejo Mundial de Iglesias", "lusitanice "Consejo Mundial de Igrejas", germanice "Ökumenischer Rat der Kirchen", gallice "Conseil oecuménique des Eglises", non "concilio", "concílio", "Konzil", "Concile".
Ne inter concilia oecumenica numeretur. Theodoxa (disputatio) 19:15, 2 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Primae significationes in L&S:
replies: text: :concilium = a collection of people, an association, gathering, union, meeting, assembly = coetus

text: :consilium = deliberation, consultation, a considering together, counsel

text: Ut videtur, concilium Anglice = 'council'; consilium = 'counsel'??? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 20:02, 2 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :Etymologiae Anglicae in Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary:
replies: text: ::council > ME counceil > OF concile > L concilium > com- + calare

text: ::counsel > ME conseil > OF conseil > L consilium > consulere

text: :??? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 20:09, 2 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Concilium'' vs. ''consilium''
Disputatio:Ecclesiae Orthodoxae Orientales

message: De "nomen secundum Consilium Oecumenicum Ecclesiarum hodie usitatum," sed ubi id legere possumus? Commentarius nexu extravicipaediano vel fonte bibliographico qui lemma satis corroboret caret. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:23, 3 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Quaestio soluta: nexum addidimus. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:35, 3 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Lemma
Disputatio:Reincarnatio

message: Jondel, by removing the noun, you've changed
replies: text: secundum morale vitae prioris ingenium

text: according to the ethical bent of a prior life
to (the nongrammatical)

text: secundum morale vitae prioris

text: according to the ethical of a prior life.
However, since the whole phrase is absent from the definition in enwiki, it could profitably be deleted here. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 15:04, 3 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :I appreciate very much for you taking the time out to explain. Please allow me to investigate 'bent-ingenium' meaning and obtain the source. --Jondel (disputatio) 22:47, 3 Decembris 2015 (UTC)

text: :Ingenium seems to suggest inborn talent, pronus might be better for bent. But I will focus on the above mentioned issue.--Jondel (disputatio) 22:53, 3 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: ::One's bent is one's strong proclivity, one's special capacity, one's natural talent. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 01:46, 4 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Please, let's keep these distinct, bent/prolivity, capacity and natural talent. And also home in on the most precise sense that was meant to be conveyed with the word which will mainly provide the same meaning. Let's be wary about the other adverse meanings the word used might convey.--Jondel (disputatio) 01:26, 5 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Adverse? What? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 16:37, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::If there is a word that can distinctly and only mean one meaning ,  that word might be preferable unless the idiom is very prevalent.--Jondel (disputatio) 16:51, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Ingenium

message: For the word morarilty, can we use Traupman's boni morae(plural form)? I don't have the dictionary on hand but that is the form I memorized. I'm still investigating the above.--Jondel (disputatio) 01:08, 5 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's boni mores in Traupman, not boni morae. The noun moralitas is postclassical, but perhaps Vicipaedia should allow it, since an article on moralitas, distinct from mos, already exists. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 16:34, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: :Then I think boni mores is preferable.--Jondel (disputatio) 16:53, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morality 

message: OK! The attestation was added after I'd taken the text offline to begin amplifying it, and I hadn't noticed the addition. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 16:37, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: "fontem vocabuli restitui; OK?"
Disputatio:Comana Pontica

message: Vox 'devugabant' commenticia  esse videtur. Fortasse utendum 'devovebant' vel alia huiusmodi.--193.43.103.135 10:34, 4 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ita. Corrigere temptavi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:10, 4 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  devugabant
Disputatio:Aiuthia

message: Nomen "Aiuthia", sicut in aliis linguis saepe videmus (cf. et nomen Thai "Ayutthaya") nunc Latine citavi. Id nomen praeferendum est: origo enim formae "Aegimoetha" a Graesse datae aegre decelatur. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:25, 8 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  De nomine
Disputatio:Lecticula (medicina)

message: The pagename was "Lecticula medicina", which, if it means anything, means "the medicine of litters/sedans". The lemma was "lecticula medicinalis", which means "a medicinal litter/sedan". But stretchers are not really medicinal. I've tried "lecticula infirmorum", which can be understood as "a litter/sedan for the weak": I think that's what a stretcher is. Better terms will surely exist; even sourced terms may exist. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:17, 13 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Traupman: 'stretcher' = lecticula (plain & simple). IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:19, 13 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :Fine, but the word has other (older) meanings too, so it has to be disambiguated one way or another. Then I guess "Lecticula (medicina)" will serve until someone thinks of a better disambiguating word.

text: :I cited Traupman, trusting you (naturally), but please check whether it's the correct citation. Traupman comes in many forms, all of them unknown to me. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:23, 13 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Done, but the formula doesn't allow the pagination to be added elegantly. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 16:41, 13 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
Gratias vobis ago emendationis vestris! --Jondel (disputatio) 10:37, 15 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titulus
Disputatio:Index holerum

message: Quid est propositum huius commentarii? Omnia paginae verba sunt: "Genera holerum: Abelmoschus, Allium, Apium, Beta, Blitum, Brassica, Caepa, Capsicum, Carota, Cinara, Cucumis, Cucurbita, Dioscorea, Ipomoea, Lactuca, Melongena, Napus, Phaseolus, Pisum, Rapum, Rhaponticum, Patata" ¶ Vide :Categoria:Holera. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:55, 18 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, and the category works better because it's linked (perforce) to the relevant articles: this is largely a list of generic names, which is quite misleading. You can't eat everything in those genera. Still, I suppose we could do with some equivalent to :en:List of vegetables ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:29, 18 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Propositum
Disputatio:Schola chartarum

message: Nomen publicum certe est "Ecole nationale des chartes", sed rarissime adhibitum. Latine nunquam vidi "Schola nationalis ...", saepe "Schola chartarum" (citationes praebui); Francogallice saepissime "Ecole des chartes". Cf. etiam titulus libellorum Bibliothèque de l'École des chartes. Paginam movendam suadeo. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:54, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Et primus contributor se sic descripsit: "Quondam Chartarum Scholae alumnus, hodie archivarius sum." IacobusAmor (disputatio) 20:16, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: : Doleo me sine vera scientia titulum ex titulo Francico convertisse. Itaque ne falsus sit, corrigatur. Neander (disputatio) 20:28, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Equidem, ut primus contributor, paginam movendam censeo. Nam "nationale" nunquam adhibitum est, nisi in legibus aliisque publicis scriptis.ThbdGrrd (disputatio) 11:04, 28 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titulus
Disputatio:Rondò Veneziano

message: Retundellum nusquam & numquam vidi. Num vocabulum verum est? Neander (disputatio) 20:11, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Latinum huius generis poesis et musicae nomen (Francice rondeau, Italiane rondo) ut videtur erit rotundellus. Vide hic. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 20:23, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: : Bene! Neander (disputatio) 20:32, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Ely Ould Mahometus Vall

message: We now normally use a more standard international transliteration of Arabic names, but I'm not sure what that would be here. German Wikipedia says Ely Ould Mohamed Vall "(arabisch ‏إعلي ولد محمد فال‎, DMG Iʿlī walad Muḥammad Fāl)." Walad, Ould, or Uld? Val or Fal? Lesgles (disputatio) 15:07, 29 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: West African Muslim names, filtered via French, seem very different from ordinary Arabic ones. If the French spelling is used nationally and internationally it may be simplest to stick with it, at least for the present. I don't know what's best, honestly. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:27, 29 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romanization