Disputatio:Jot

message: *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise/Archive_10#Greek_letter_Yot
thread_title: Nexus

message: Nisi habemus citationes pro hoc nomine Graeco, credo cum iota (decima littera systematis numeralis Graeci) contribuenda. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:12, 24 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Jot vel Jod numquam fuit littera Graeca, ne alterna quidem forma litterae iota. Jot introductum est a linguistis ad formas verborum reconstructas scribendas, ut e.g. φυλάττω /φυλάσσω < *φυλάκϳω (illud * indicat hanc formam esse reconstructam). Illo autem tempore cum hae formae reconstructae adhiberentur, Graeci aut illitterati erant aut scriptura lineair-B utebantur. Non igitur hanc paginam cum iota contribuendam censeo, sed magnopere rescribendam, aut si non rescribitur, delendam. --Fabullus 14:02, 24 Iunii 2008 (UTC)

text: De symbolo Jot vide etiam hanc paginam (anglice). --Fabullus 14:16, 24 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contribuenda 

message: Aologies for writing in English. The interwiki-links here presently go to either deleted articles (no: da: gl:) or to articles similar to this version. It would be good to have this fixed (If you remove the links here I'll do the cross-wiki removing so that the interwikibots don't add them again.) Regards, Finnrind 10:36, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No need to apologise: English and other languages are acceptable on talk pages. I understand your point and I have removed the misleading interwiki links.

text: Since the symbol we are talking about exists in Unicode, and is used in some modern philological work on Greek, I think we in Vicipaedia ought to have a soft redirect under its real Unicode name (which is Yot). Will it disturb the interwiki bots if I put these interwiki links (the ones that are still valid) there instead? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:05, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Well, interwiki links often becomes somewhat misleading, and having those bots tunning around isn't always as helpful as it should be. For instance, now this article links to the German page :de:Jot which is a redirect to the German article :de:J which again has an interwikilink to J...  A bit complicated, but I suggest removing the interwiki of this article.

text: :As for the interwikilinks from Yot to the still exisiting articles they could and probably even should be kept. It also seems that you have come up with a good solution here, and I believe those other articles could be rewritten with the Latin article as an example. My latin isn't nowhere as good as the University of Oslo believed when they gave me a diploma, but I still seem to dechiffer that the article describes Yot as unicode sign so-and-so, used for philological purposes. An English translation would be helpful, and could be added to English Wikipedia as well. The best way of avvoiding new articles revealing the TRUTH is to write articles citing the facts... Finnrind 16:09, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Yes, it does roughly what you say, but I preferred to make it a very brief article -- a "soft redirect" -- and to give the Unicode details in a section of the page J (littera).

text: ::"The best way of avoiding new articles revealing the TRUTH is to write articles citing the facts." -- How true! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:18, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  iw-links