lflage/wiki-talks huggingface dataset:
Disputatio:Domus Alba

message: Non recte Aedes Alba? Verbum aedes quoque est singulare: aedes, -is, in tertia declinatione. IacobusAmor 21:38, 18 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Non recte. Aedes non est singulare. Aedes est singulare et "temple" significat. Aedēs est plurale et domum magnum significat. Ergo, Aedes Ablae domum magnum et candidum significat.Andy85719 21:49, 18 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Ita, immo vero, verbum plurale 'domum' plerumque significat; sed cur, pro '(White) House', non est verbum domus? Caesari Neroni ipsi insigniter erat Domus Aurea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domus_Aurea), non Aedes Aureae. IacobusAmor 11:39, 19 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Iacobo, mea parte, consentio... Anglice non dicimus "the white mansion", autem "the white house". Domus alba mihi melius omnino videtur...--Ioscius (disp) 13:15, 19 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::I like the way Aedes Albae sounds (with its alliteration, for which I'm always a sucker), but Domus Alba could be less pretentious and therefore more American. Does anybody have an attestation before Egger? IacobusAmor 15:17, 19 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::I found the name on a website named LATINITAS RECENS http://users.adelphia.net/~florusc/anglice/ansearch.html. I hadn't really heard of any name for it before then. The house is indeed a mansion with 132 rooms, 35 bathrooms, 412 doors, 147 windows, 28 fireplaces, 8 staircases, 3 elevators, tennis court, jogging track, swimming pool, movie theater, and bowling lane (which has been out of order for some time). To further explain mansion, it was originally called the Executive Mansion until Theodore Roosevelt changed its name. Some even called it a castle. I can't even imagine having one elevator in my house, let alone three elevators.Andy85719 02:16, 20 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::::I have been looking at the translation of the name in other languages and do agree that most say domus or domo or casa. If the Vatican really says that it is Domus Alba than I think the name ought to be changed. I too am a sucker for alliterations. By the way, does anybody know what the Capitol building would be called. Do we need a discretiva for Capitolium to differentiate it from the Ancient Rome's Capitolium?Andy85719 03:01, 20 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::::The US term is surely a direct loan from the Latin, and therefore Capitolium would be the right word to use, I would say. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:47, 20 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm going to move this if there are no objections. Domus Alba?--Ioscius (disp) 02:58, 25 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: : I haven't any objections to the movement.Andy85719 18:51, 25 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: '''Aedes Albae'''

message: aedes, aedium (pl) domus, vide . Nunc debeo omnes paginas praesidentium CFA mutare Biographia... in pagina aedium albarum .--Massimo Macconi 05:14, 19 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confirmo
Disputatio:Birota

message: One trillion bicycles. That means that there are about 143 bicycles per person if we assume that there are 7 billion currently living on earth. I think you meant to say 1 billion, which sounds much more reasonable. Even 10 billion would sound somewhat reasonable, although it has been a month since I have seen someone riding a bicycle.
replies: text: Yes, a billion.  I got carried away with the zeroes.  I meant a really big number.  Psammakosioi as they say in Greek.  I'll let you fix it, if you would.  Montivagus 128.138.154.73 22:33, 18 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :I'm not a Latin writer, but even to call some article - stipula, i think it should be a minimum to give external links; interwikilinks and a link to to commons, Hendricus 19:50, 29 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::A stipula is considered to be under the circumstances mentiones in this formula: --Xaverius 20:30, 29 Decembris 2007 (UTC)

message: What does this word mean? I couldn't find a definition anywhere on the web. Googling siniverunt yields about 6 different use cases, which is a very low number (not counting the same document).Cruxcruxem (disputatio) 15:08, 18 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Typo pro siverunt? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 16:48, 18 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Siniverunt
Disputatio:Capitolinum Civitatum Foederatarum

message: Cur "Capitolinum"? Est verbum adiectivum of or connected with the Capitol. "Capitolium" est melius, ut credo. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:10, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Recte dixisti. Cur, etiam, est imago tantum? --Ioscius (disp) 14:39, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cur?
Disputatio:Ericus Hobsbawm

message: I can't see any evidence of it, on this page or the English one. If he has written on this subject, we'd better cite one of the texts concerned. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:46, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is meant, I think, is that both parents were Jewish people, so at least English wikip. --Alex1011 14:56, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Oh, I see. I wondered if that was it. Still, I didn't see anything about his religion on the English page. I'll check again. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:01, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

text: :I still don't see anything there about his religion. I changed the article to say that both his parents were Jews -- OK? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:19, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "historicus religionis Iudaicae"?

message: The registrar's error in spelling his name seems a very minor detail -- these things happen often -- so I moved it to a footnote. Hope that's OK. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:01, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, but: Many would tend to spell Hobsbawn, but now, with Hobsbaum in the background the strange spelling is explained. --Alex1011 18:07, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :I'm afraid I don't understand this, Alex. Who would tend to spell it "Hobsbawn"? That spelling is not mentioned on the page at all. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:20, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

text: :Search engines (to avoid hidden advertisement) show quite a lot of "Eric Hobsbawns" who also were born in Alexandria. I myself, of course, always spelled it correctly :-) --Alex1011 19:59, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Oh, I see! Yes, the misspellings we find on the Web (always by other people, of course) continually surprise us ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:24, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Orthographia nominis

message: It's exactly what I believed to have written (i.e both his parents were Jews) sorry for my poor Latin.--Massimo Macconi 15:32, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, Massimo -- I understand now! I hope what I wrote is aceptable ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:16, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  thank you ..
Disputatio:Portus Dives

message: Estne re vera hic nexus * Puerto Rico Independence Party - www.independencia.net/ingles/welcome.html additus rectus atque probus? Fortasse quasi fons in huius parte commentationis de rebus publicis et gubernatione Portus Divitis, at nexus externus tantum?--Ioscius (disp) 18:29, 22 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  De nexu
Disputatio:Basilica Sancti Marci Veneta

message: Why won't my image gallery work, except for the griffin?  I got the pics from commons like I was supposed to. GiovaneScuola2006 00:59, 23 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I figured it out. GiovaneScuola2006 05:44, 23 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pinacotheca: Auxilium!
Disputatio Categoriae:Praesides Vicarii Civitatum Foederatarum Americae

message: ... haven't we mixed singular and plural in this heading? I think the singular is "Praeses Vicarius", the plural "Praesides Vicarii". (And, before anyone asks, the genitive plural is once recorded as "praesidium": I just checked Lewis and Short.) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:36, 23 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorry to be awkward ...
Disputatio:Brightonia

message: Hoc nomen Bristelmestuna est Anglosaxonicum; sine dubio reperitur in fontibus Latinis eius temporis. An exstat alium nomen Latinum? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:03, 24 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nunc repperi (vide notam in pagina). Ad "Brightonia" movere suadeo. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:10, 27 Aprilis 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Vicimedia Communia

message: Nonne melior est nexum ad paginam communiarum collocare quam ad hanc paginam? --Partonopier 12:58, 24 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

message: Non puto eum verbum singulare esse. @Andrew Dalby, confirmesne mutandum eorum verborum in "Symbolum Vicimediorum Communiorum"? (ignosce mihi meam linguam malam) 1234qwer1234qwer4 (disputatio) 20:49, 11 Septembris 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hic error nunc correctus est. Gratias ago usori ignoto 213.87.139.120. "Communium" quidem forma vera est. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (disputatio) 11:58, 12 Septembris 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: :Gratias ago ambobus! Recte mutavisti, 213.87.139.120. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:46, 13 Septembris 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Symbolum Vicimediae Communiae"
Disputatio:Vienna

message: Vienna aut Vigenna? vide paginam Vigenna (praefectura Franciae).--Massimo Macconi 05:29, 25 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Vienna est verum nomen Romanum huius urbis. Praefecturae Franciae nomina a fluminibus habent: per eam praefecturam, longe ab urbe Vienna remota, flumen Vigenna (flumen) currit! :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:43, 25 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

message: ago propter explicationem. Ciao--Massimo Macconi 09:21, 25 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  gratia tibi..
Disputatio:Lorda

message: The name Lapurdum seems to be wrong: all sources I have seen say that Lapurdum is the Latin name for Bayonne, quite a long way away. According to Hofmann (s.v. Bigerriones) the Latin name for Lourdes is Lorda (the same as the Occitan, in fact). If no one objects, I'll move this article.  Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:08, 25 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This archive for a radio programme called Vatican Radio US (I'm not sure if it is real Vatican or not) says Lapurdum, and the diocese website hints at it with

text: "Diocese of Tarbes et LourdesLatin Name: Tarbiensis et Lapurdensis".

text: I think you should definitely move the page, though, since Hofmann is a much more reliable source and Lapurdum is used in 7/10 Googles in the Bayonne context, but have a sive/seu Lapurdum on the article.

text: P.S. I sent you a message in your talk page, but it seems the nuntia nova message hasn't been working very well recently. --Harrissimo 16:04, 25 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :And also I have not been replying to messages as promptly as I should ...

text: :Thanks very much for the information above (I hadn't tracked down the diocese). Hofmann is an older source, but the Vatican and its acolytes are real users of modern Latin and their usage has to be taken seriously. In the circumstances, since the name Lapurdum has two claims on it, and each place has an alternative Latin name (which is lucky!), I had better make Lapurdum a discretiva, I think. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:27, 25 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen

message: Friends,
For those of you who don't feel grupta is a word, vide hic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grotto  Thoughts? LionhardusCiampa 03:02, 14 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Grupta vs. Spelunca
Disputatio Formulae:Urbes maximae Civitatum Foederatarum

message: I changed the format of four names for which we don't have articles yet, so that, when those articles are created, they are more likely to get a title in our favoured format. Hope no one minds. By making the same change to Sacramentum, Californiae I produced a bluelink out of a redlink! Magic! ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:35, 26 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Five changes

message: I changed the order to alphabetical. A list in size order is better arranged as a substantive page (which we already have, though it needs improving): on a page, the numbers and other details can be given, justifying the order. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:57, 4 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  A couple more
Disputatio:Ioannes Gawiński

message: I added the Formula not because there are no links, but because there are far too many! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:14, 27 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Phew! Oculos meos!--Ioscius (disp) 13:26, 27 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vicificanda
Disputatio:Institutiones Latinae

message: Non bene perspicio quo ordine conscriptus sit index institutionum. Meá quidem sententiá ordo alphabeticus est servandus; si minus, declarandum quo ordine adhibeantur.
replies: text: Denique consentimur.--Ioscius (disp) 17:38, 27 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: De ordine institutorum
Disputatio:Cinematographia

message: Rogo Rocchium, qui tam avidus videtur "corrigendi" quod scripsi, ut prius discat Gallicé Græcéque:
Cinematographia est Gallicé cinématographie et Græcé κινηματογραφία
Cinematographus est Gallicé cinématographe et Græcé κινηματογράφος
Quæso, noli corrumpere quæ optimé scripta erant!
Gratias.
replies: text: Locum in textu tantum volo corrigere. Similitudo inter commentationes nostras opportet facere. Translationes statim post lemma scribendae sunt. At bene admones, non perlegi, et me paenitet, credens sententiam tuam convertere lemma.--Ioscius (disp) 21:11, 27 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Bene, fortasse nunc melius intelleges quantæ animi frustrationis est videre, post tam multos labores, alium perperam "corrigentem" quæ scripsisti. Itero: ego pugnas non amo, sed si labores mei sunt incassum, quia ab aliis corrumpuntur, laborare desinam. Infeliciter, tempus mihi non superest. Etiam "correxisti" meum "Gal." (i.e. "Gallicé") cum "Francogallice", quod est monstrum verbi neque Latinum. Interea vero, disputatio (non pugna, sed disputatio, an disputare non licet?) de ortographiá non est soluta. Avitus 21:32, 27 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Confiteor non scire pulvum de linguis gallicis francogallicis gallofrancicis francicis etc... At qui sciunt dissimilitudinem facere volunt inter linguas Gallicam, et Francogallicam.--Ioscius (disp) 21:41, 27 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: De cinematographiá et cinematographo
Disputatio Categoriae:Urbes Regni Britanniarum

message: ... usurpat antiquam categoriam Urbes Regni Uniti, quia id nomen civitatis deprecatur. Gratias ago Harrissimo, qui omnes urbes ex antiqua categoria removit! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:42, 27 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: De rien :) --Harrissimo 21:56, 27 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Haec categoria
Disputatio:Tunicula candida

message: Iacobe . . . nil scio de circuitu . . . Fortasse mi dicas cur est translatio lemmatis Samoana? --Ioscius (disp) 14:06, 29 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question, as it implicates a policy worth considering. Perhaps three glosses might have strong claims to appear parenthetically near the start of articles: (1) in the language of origin; (2) in English, the world's lingua franca; and (3) temporarily in a language of interest to the author, to be cut when an article in a parallel wiki shall have been set up, at which time the link to that wiki would serve the same function. The first two might be useful in attracting the attention of bots that add interwiki links. IacobusAmor 16:40, 29 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :So, just making sure, the Samoan is there just for you? =] --Ioscius (disp) 16:54, 29 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::And then when I set up the parallel article over there (in sm:), I can delete the gloss here. OK? IacobusAmor 17:05, 29 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Sure... I was just curious: "are the origins of the tour de France really Samoan?!" No problems =] --Ioscius (disp) 17:08, 29 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
Discussion has moved to Disputatio Vicipaediae:Translatio lemmatis. --Rolandus 06:25, 30 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Translations
Disputatio:Certamen Ciceronianum Arpinas

message: Quoniam certamen Arpini adest, cur non est titulus Certamen Ciceronianum Arpini? 20:24, 29 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Arpinas" est forma locativi casus. --UV 20:30, 29 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: : Haud ita!  'Arpinas, -atis' adiectivum est. Casus locativus est Arpini, ut Iacobus dixit.  —Mucius Tever 01:43, 1 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Titulus
Disputatio:Numantia

message: "Hodie ab archaeologo Alfredo Ximeno exfossa est." Vel exfossatur? Etiamnunc producitne labor? IacobusAmor 13:10, 30 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ita vero. Postrero die ego cum Alfredo Ximeno Numantiam exfodendi causa ibo--Xaverius 13:47, 30 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tempus
Disputatio:Carlismus

message: I have chosen Carlismus because it is the same in German. Carolismus (because of carolus) might have beem more adequate, but I rather went for carlismus--Xaverius 15:52, 30 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't seem too egregious. But, if I may, what's the syntax of lemma carlista? And the sense of it, too, I guess...--Ioscius (disp) 16:04, 30 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

message: For royal court Words says Aula is the right word.
  aula, aulae  N (1st) F     1 1  F   [XXXBO]  hall; church/temple; palace/castle; inner/royal court; courtiers; royal power;
Whereas for palace 
 regia, regiae  N (1st) F     1 1  F   [XXXDX]  palace, court; residence;
Whereas looking up palatium gives 
 Palatium, Palati(i)  N (2nd) N   [XXIBX]  Palatine Hill;
Is there evidence that in Hispania they called the court a palatium?--Rafaelgarcia 14:38, 7 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would change "in palatium Matriti" -> "in Matriti aulam" or "in aulam Matritensem"--Rafaelgarcia 14:40, 7 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Palatium versus Aulam
Disputatio:Seulum

message: I moved it back. If you really want to move the page, I suggest discussing it on this talk page first. Meanwhile:
#The reason given (Google hits) seems to be mistaken. I got "55" (reduced to 13) for Seoulum, and "352" (reduced to 110) for Seulum.
#If you actually look at the hits, none of those for "Seoulum" are in Latin, and I'm not sure if more than 1 or 2 of them are meant to be city names at all.
#And anyway, Google isn't king for Latin. Many of the hits for "Seulum" are reflexes of our Vicipaedia pages, so what does that prove? We have to look elsewhere for place names, really. See Fontes nominum locorum for some suggestions. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:13, 30 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I agree Seulum was the established usage in the past. Recently, however, Seoulum has come to use and the usage is much extended now.

text: #I tried 'Seoulensis' and 'Seulensis', a derivative form, which is frequently used in latin nomenclature of species. While Seulensis gives only 264 results (reduced to 117), I got 22,200 for Seoulensis (reduced to 426) . This result excludes pages from wikipedia.

text: #There is a copy of a letter in latin from pope John Paul II, on designation of new archbishop of Uijeongbu. You can see what he used, Seoulum. --Nudimmud 10:34, 31 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Thanks very much for doing the work. Both forms are possible, then -- this source gives Dioecesis Seulensis as if from Seulum. Let's wait a day or so in case anyone else has a comment, and then move the page to Seoulum as you prefer. We can keep both spellings in the text of the article, and cite a source for each. Better and better! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:15, 31 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Sorry for being a cad - I just moved yet another page without checking the discussion. I'll be more careful in the future. My problem with the Seoulum is that

text: ::#It is not in the letter stated above - only the adjective

text: ::#The whole argument presumes that the adjective ending in -ensis means the noun must end in -um. Which is completely wrong (or could well be)

text: ::There is a source for Seulum (on the page now) with the real noun ending and that is the only reliable source thus far. I'll be happy to move back if anybody can outweigh Seulum with Seoulum. Harrissimo 18:58, 11 Februarii 2008 (UTC).
replies: text: :::I'm with you, really. Seulum seems a more Latin-like spelling to me. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:50, 11 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio Portae:Finnia/Paginae et Imagines Mensis Propositae

message: Scribe hic propositiones pro Paginam et imaginem mensis. Scribe iuxta propositionem nomen usoris tuum. Anglice et Latine sunt linguae acceptae in haec pagina.

message: ===Augustus 2007===
Keep Kalevala. Harrissimo.
===September 2007===
Alandia. Harrissimo.
===October 2007===
Bellum Hiemale. Harrissimo.
===List of Good Finland pages===
thread_title: Paginae Mensis

message: Keep Kalevala. Harrissimo.
thread_title: Augustus 2007

message: Alandia. Harrissimo.
thread_title: September 2007

message: Bellum Hiemale. Harrissimo.
thread_title: October 2007

thread_title: List of Good Finland pages

message: ===Augustus 2007===
imago lacus paijanne. Harrissimo.
===September 2007===
Carta Marina. Harrissimo.
thread_title: Imagines Mensis

message: imago lacus paijanne. Harrissimo.
thread_title: Augustus 2007

message: Carta Marina. Harrissimo.
thread_title: September 2007
Disputatio:Inguiomerus Bergman

message: minister cultus Lutheranus est recta translatio verba Germanica Lutherische Pastor? nam sacerdos aut presbyter secundum theologiam Lutheranam non potest dicere --Massimo Macconi 17:08, 30 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ad minimum, Lutheranus in casu genetivo opportet fieri, cultus est quartae declinationis. =] Sacerdos mihi videtur optime.--Ioscius (disp) 17:17, 30 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Cur non pastor? Est origo verbi quo in linguis hodiernis utimur; usi sunt etiam scriptores antiqui in hoc sensu (vide  II. 2), Iesu et Homero secuti! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:28, 5 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :: Andreae assentior. --Neander 02:23, 7 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Pro verbo Anglico 'pastor', Ainsworth's Dictionary (saec. XVIII) dat Latinum ecclesiae minister. IacobusAmor 02:39, 7 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

message: cher Andrew,
à la page de discussion de Ingmar Bergman j'ai demandé aux autres amis de la.wiki tradution en latin du mot "pasteur" d'église. Ioshus il dit qu'on pourrait utiliser le mot sacerdos, mais je crois que les réformés n'accepteraient jamais une telle traduction parce que ces eglises ne connaissent pas un sacerdoce dans le sens de l'eglise catholique. que penses-tu? Merci--Massimo Macconi 09:46, 5 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Je crois que sacerdos est impropre dans cette circonstance. Meilleur: ecclesiae minister. IacobusAmor 13:02, 5 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  disputationem translatam e paginae usorum