lflage/wiki-talks huggingface dataset:
Disputatio:Castra Scelerata

message: : Hunc nexum Tranquilii Vita Divi Claudi, mihi inaccessibilem, et hunc, erroneum, removi.
replies: text: Nexus externos in textu rarissime includimus; in notis et in sectione "Nexus externi", saepe. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:37, 17 Martii 2009 (UTC)
Gratiam tibi ago. Nexum erroneum …13CastraScelerata.html correxi et denuo addidi. Contrarium nexum monstrantem a pagina Neronis Claudii Drusi ad hanc paginam inserui.
Nunc duo usores in Vicipaedia latina habeo: "Jürgen Regel" et "Regel". Primo 
ad vicipaedias omnium linguarum idoneo solo utar, secundum obsoletus est et deleatur.
Jürgen Regel 17:55, 19 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vicificatio
Disputatio:Katipunan

message: "Praesedentis honorare Iosephus Rizal rentur  sed ille ipsum modo violentis non adhibitur." Id removi quia non intellego. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:01, 17 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Intelligo et emendo. Gratias.Jondel (disputatio) 05:42, 27 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removi
Disputatio:Necropolis

message: I'm terrible at Greek... how does necropolis decline? is it (N/G/Ac/D/Ab) (sing) Necropolis, -is, -im, -i, -i (plur) -eis, -eum, -ibus, -ibus? --Xaverius 13:44, 18 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Has tantum formas ipse vidi: necropolis (nom.sg.), necropolim (acc.sg.), necropoli (abl.sg.). Alias formas puto per analogiam turris iuste declinari (quamquam nom.pl. fortasse etiam necropoleis dici possit). Quid cogitant alii? --Neander 02:26, 27 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Inspicite, si vultis, paginam meam de declinatione nominum Graecorum. --Fabullus 05:39, 27 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::::: Profecto pagina perutilis! --Neander 14:21, 27 Martii 2009 (UTC)
nom. sg. 	ἡ θέσις 	thesis >> necropolis
</br>gen. sg. 	τῆς θέσεως 	thesis 	>> necropolis
</br>dat. sg. 	τῇ θέσει 	thesī 	>> necropoli
</br>acc. sg. 	τὴν θέσιν 	thesim 	>> necropolim
</br>abl. sg. 	- 	thesī 	thesī  >> necropoli
</br>voc. sg. 	(ὦ Νέμεσι) 	- 	>> -
</br>nom. pl. 	αἱ θέσεις 	thesēs  >> necropoles
</br>gen. pl. 	τῶν θέσεων 	thesium >> necropolium	
</br>dat. pl. 	ταῖς θέσεσι(ν) 	thesibus >> necropolibus	
</br>acc. pl. 	τὰς θέσεις 	thesēs 	>> necropoles
</br>abl. pl. 	- 	thesibus >> necropolibus
Gratias permultas ago!--Xaverius 08:59, 27 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Declinatio
Disputatio:Crema cremada

message: Nescio quo modo dicatur verba hispana 'almidón' aut italiana 'fecula' aut anglica 'starch'. Latine scripsi "glutinum faeculentum".
Etiam nescio quo modo dicatur "baño Maria". Scripsi balneum Mariae. --21:52, 18 Martii 2009 Usor:Imtoo
replies: text: Starch=amylum, ni fallor... --Ioscius∞ 16:02, 4 Februarii 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ita! unde verbum Hispanicum. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:04, 4 Februarii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: starch
Disputatio:Rivulus Dominarum

message: Notice in the photo captioned "Rivulus Dominarum: urbs vetus" how the lens has made the buildings curve, contrary to everything our eyes tell us about reality. Such "barreling" is a distortion produced by nonrectilinear glass. Sometimes photographers choose wide-angle or fisheye lenses so as to create this effect, but often it's the (inadvertent & uncharming) result of a cheap lens. It can be corrected by programs. If one were to perform such a correction, could the corrected (call it edited) version be uploaded as a replacement? If so, how? Since it's not under copyright, it can presumably be manipulated freely by anybody in any way at any time, just as the texts in wikis can, right? IacobusAmor 14:09, 21 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If it is technically possible to improve this image (which I cannot tell), the corrected/edited version could of course be re-uploaded under the same filename (this is analogous to improving an article text in a wikipedia). You could ask at en:Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Image workshop. --UV 16:38, 21 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nonrectilinear images
Disputatio:Poena capitalis

message: Care 71.87.208.246, usor ignote, duas scripsisti sententias quae reapse eandem rem dicunt: "Homines necantur modis multis. . . . Multae sunt species poena capitalis." Qualis conservanda est? IacobusAmor 16:49, 21 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Redundantia

message: Poena capitis (per discussion below)
Hmm... supplicium with some sort of distinguishing adjective maybe? --Iustinus 07:29, 22 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My dictionary () suggests poena vitae or poena capitis for the concept, supplicium capitis or extremum/ultimum supplicium for the (as it were) execution. We could start with poena vitae. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:01, 22 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :I like the adjective better than the noun, and so does my buddy Sallust:
replies: text: ::[36]Sed ipse paucos dies conmoratus apud C. Flaminium in agro Arretino, dum vicinitatem antea sollicitatam armis exornat, cum fascibus atque aliis imperi insignibus in castra ad Manlium contendit. Haec ubi Romae comperta sunt, senatus Catilinam et Manlium hostis iudicat, ceterae multitudini diem statuit, ante quam sine fraude liceret ab armis discedere praeter rerum capitalium condemnatis. Praeterea decernit, uti consules dilectum habeant, Antonius cum exercitu Catilinam persequi maturet, Cicero urbi praesidio sit.

text: :--Ioscius (disp) 00:07, 23 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Latin vocab may be deficient on many counts, but it is certainly not lacking in expressions for rendering 'Capital punishment'. Poena vitae, capitis, mortis, capitalis as well as Supplicium capitis, capitale, ultimum, extremum, summum are all perfectly classical. As Andrew Dalby says, the difference between poena and supplicium is approximately that of imposition and execution. The Institutiones use both poena capitis and capitalis (although the most common term there is the bare supplicium). I have a slight preference for poena capitis as a title, but that is mere taste.--Ceylon 11:47, 13 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copied From 1000 paginae
Disputatio:Quercus

message: Haec arbor quercus non est, sed robur.--Imtoo 19:48, 21 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mihi videtur hanc paginam de genere Quercus rectam esse. Petes fortasse quercus robur?--Rafaelgarcia 20:14, 21 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Nescio ita de qua arbore agatur utrum de quercu ilice, quae per antonomasiam quercus est, an de robure, ut novam paginam de quercu ilice creaverim. Nescio utrum haec pagina delenda sit an ad novam paginam de quercu ilice redirigenda sit.--Imtoo 08:15, 22 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Haec est pagina de genere quercus, non de arbore.--Imtoo 14:40, 22 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Sed non omnes species in hoc genere videtur esse arbores, quod secundum paginam Anglicam, Quercus et nonnullas includit frutices/arbusculas. Ego nescio de hoc.--Rafaelgarcia 16:45, 22 Martii 2009 (UTC)

message: O Vilho-Veli, care utens, res picta est arbor, non "Gustave Courbet," nam Gustavus [sic] Courbet erat pictor. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:27, 14 Iulii 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictura
Disputatio:Glans

message: De: "Glans nuncupatur pars et membri virilis (vide  glandem penis) et partium muliebrium." Sed corpori humano sunt multae glandes (Anglice: glands). IacobusAmor 04:52, 22 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Latine "Glandula" (non glans) significat "Gland" hoc sensu.--Rafaelgarcia 05:40, 22 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ah. Recte dicis, amice. Gratias! IacobusAmor 12:47, 22 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Corporis partes
Disputatio:Rivipullus

message: Rivipollensis mihi videtur adiectivum esse. Fortasse nomen rectum Rivipollia vel Rivipollium sit?, etiam, vide Disputatio:Reykiavica#reykiavicana --Xaverius 09:25, 23 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Xaveri, nescio originem verbi rivipollensis, sed eius origo est pagus in valle fluminis Freser (quod derivat de verbo catalano fresa (id est, "stridor", sic Freser "qui fert stridorem"). Erat antiquus pagus in valle rivi pollentis (id est, Freser), inde verbum compostum "rivus" magis "pollens", inde rivus pollens fecit adiectivum rivipollensis. Ita Ripoll de pago in Rivipollensi valle. Salve--Imtoo 13:36, 23 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Andrew Dalby invenit in encyclopaedia catalana online originem verbi, sed nulla mentio apparet in versione scripta eiusdem encyclopediae.--Imtoo 14:31, 23 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Rivus Pollens mihi placet - nomen loci est simul Pons Vetus (Pontevedra)--Xaverius 15:25, 23 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::Secundum  nomen topi Ripoll derivat de Rivipollensis, id est rivus populorum.--Imtoo 20:58, 23 Martii 2009 (UTC)
"Rivus populorum" erit fortasse etymologia, sed hoc nomen Latine nunquam reperitur. "Rivus pollens" nunquam (in fontibus fidelibus) reperitur. Sed denuo repperi "Rivipullo" (abl.?) et "Rivipullus" (nom.) in fontibus re vera Latinis. Movebo igitur (sed si quis dissentit, disputare pro certo licet!) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:45, 3 Aprilis 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: De nomine
Disputatio:Institutum Superius Scientiarum Religiosarum a Sancto Thoma Aquinate

message: Nomen instituti ipsius est Institutum Superius Scientiarum Religiosarum a Sancto Thoma Aquinate in civitate Kioviensi. Id vidimus in sigillo (e.g. apud paginam Anglicam). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:36, 23 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Good Lord. IacobusAmor 16:31, 23 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :How do they translate it, if not 'The Upper Institute of Religious Sciences by/from Saint Thomas Aquinas'? IacobusAmor 16:33, 23 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomen
Disputatio:Instrumentum rusticum

message: Is the lemma Instrumentum rusticum intended to include all kinds of tools, such as instrumenta lapidea that our ancestors used 100,000 years ago? or the sticks that chimpanzees use to elicit isoptera from their mounds? or the twigs that woodpecker finches use to stir up insects? or the stones that sea otters use to smash abalone shells? If not, Vicipaedia should surely have a more general article—on just plain Instrumentum = :en:Tool. IacobusAmor 12:43, 25 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I tentatively linked it to d:Q16000047 (agricultural machinery), which might be a useful way to limit it. Lesgles (disputatio) 22:06, 12 Maii 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :Still don't have an article on tools in general, though (d:Q39546)!
replies: text: ::There's no good reason to limit this term to machinery, but actually the en:wiki "agricultural machinery" seems to be defined very widely and to equate with what I call an "agricultural implement", so, perhaps, no problem.

text: ::My answer to Iacobus's question is that "rusticum" only makes sense in opposition to "urbanum" and in normal Latin usage applies to "agricultural life/work", so it would not make sense to apply this term to non-human or to pre-Neolithic use of tools. d:Q39546 would simply be "instrumentum", possibly with a disambiguating term. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:53, 13 Maii 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Instrumentum (Anglice: ''tool'')
Disputatio:Nachos

message: Hi ab me ridente Ignatii (-orum, m. pl.) nominantur, nam "Nacho" est cognomen e Ignatio derivatum. Re vera, vide sub voce "vaiantes" hic: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignacio Sinister Petrus 19:23, 25 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nacho est cognomen et diminutivum Ignatii, ita puto meliorem "ignatiolos" esse--Xaverius 13:59, 4 Novembris 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Sed an debemus verbum fingere? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:22, 3 Aprilis 2010 (UTC)

text: :Olim nomine '[assulae] Ignatianae' usus sum... Nomen 'Nachos' non indicat cibum qui Ignatioli nom.plur. vocatur, sed Ignatioli gen.sing.—"Nacho's Especiales". —Mucius Tever 05:47, 4 Aprilis 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Ignatii
Disputatio:Symphonia

message: I was not sure about the proper way to translate "Classical" (referring to music) into Latin; anyone who knows a good translation: please add it! Croutonkid94 01:35, 29 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: By "Symphoniae imprimis culto hodierno per aetate classico scriptae sunt." what do you want to say? The grammar as it stands is all wrong in the prepositional phrase. ??--Rafaelgarcia 03:00, 29 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classical
Disputatio:Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

message: In "Gerere igitur potest personam militis vel Americani (Anglice: Marine)," what are you trying to say? It means: 'It can therefore wear the mask [manage the role] of a soldier or an American'—and where's the marine? Latin for 'marine' is often classiarius. IacobusAmor 04:16, 31 Martii 2009 (UTC)
I think the meaning is clear looking at the entire sentence: "Gerere igitur potest personam militis vel Americani (Anglice: Marine) vel Britannici (proprius Manus Aëronavalis Singularis, Anglice: SAS, Special Air Service)". In my opinion he would to say '...manage the role of a soldier, (and this soldier is) American (marine) or British (SAS)', (vel americani, vel britannici). Perhaps the long brackets break the sentence and make it a bit hard to understand, but its meaning is correct.
Poecus 20:51, 10 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: De verbo Anglico ''Marine''
Disputatio:Occidens

message: Disambiguation is needed to accommodate "the West" (Occidens, usually capitalized), a cultural-political notion, quite different in sense from that of the cardinal direction (occidens, usually lowercased). IacobusAmor 12:46, 3 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree some kind of disambiguation is necessary. Perhaps "Cultus Occidens" (Western Civilization) captures the notion you are looking for? Similarly we should have a "Cultus Oriens".--Rafaelgarcia 13:41, 3 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :See also: Disputatio:Oriens--Rafaelgarcia 13:42, 3 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation is needed
Disputatio:Gravedo

message: Gravedo
replies: text: Catarrhus but does not seem as common? --Rafaelgarcia 16:44, 20 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)
Catarrhus exists. It is accepted by logeion page. [modificatio facta ab Ines et Alexrandro, graduatiis philologiae classic in Universitate Valentina, 2015].

text: Thank you. What is "logeion page"? Can you give a link? Is "catarrhus" a name for the infection, or for a symptom? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:10, 14 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: ex 1000 paginas desideratas

message: Macte Iacobe, nunc cum stenuimus possumus legere Latine de eo! Dubio tamen: an non melius diceremus gravedinem esse morbum quam pestilentiam (plague)?..--Rafaelgarcia 15:53, 6 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Dicit Cassell's quemlibet morbum Anglice appellatum "infectious disease" esse pestilentiam; et sub voce pestilentia dicit pestilentiam posse "a pestilential or unhealthy condition . . . a plague, infectious disease." Noster en: dicit "plague" esse "Any pestilence, a virulent and highly infectious disease." ¶ Last week, I caught a cold, my first since July 1985, and thought I'd commemorate the event. ;) IacobusAmor 16:47, 6 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Verum dicis. Distinguenda igitur est pestilentia ab "pestilence" dicendo "pestilentia gravis"?  vide .--Rafaelgarcia 20:27, 6 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Post paginam creatam
Disputatio:Victoria Samothraciae

message: I removed this:
* ([[Lingua Graeca antiqua|Graece]] Νίκη της Σαμοθράκης  / Níkê tês Samothrákês)
(a) because, as it stands, it's inaccurate -- this is modern Greek, not ancient -- and (b) because, although it could easily be rewritten in ancient Greek, I suspect no ancient Greek name for the statue is known. So it would then be an invented name!
Other wikis are highly unreliable on ancient Greek: if they have it at all, it has often been added by modern Greek editors who don't know how to write it correctly. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:13, 12 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
Thank you it is a very important remark. I know only a very little of Ancient Greek and therefore I take all I find for true. Ciao--Massimo Macconi 09:33, 12 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance?
Disputatio:Organismus

message: UV, why did you change the layout of this article? IacobusAmor 01:14, 16 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Format

message: Didn't mean that revert, stray mouse click. --Ioscius (disp) 09:39, 3 Ianuarii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  accidental edit 

message: Roch01A, est genus revera verbum Latinum pro Anglico gene ? Sententiam Anglicam
replies: text: In biology, the theory of universal common descent proposes that all organisms on Earth are descended from a common ancestor or ancestral gene pool.
sic convertisti:

text: In biologia, theoria universi descensus communis proponit omnes terrae organismos de commune auctore generis vel proavita generum congerie (Anglice: gene pool) descendisse.
Similiter, sententiam

text: they do have their own genes, and they do evolve by similar mechanisms by which [true] organisms evolve.
convertisti

text: habent suorum generum, et evolvuntur eisdem modis quibus organismi veri evolvuntur.
Nonne est nobis proprium verbum Latinum pro Anglico gene ? Utilissimum erit! IacobusAmor 11:25, 12 Octobris 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: :Gregorius Mendel ipse ut clerus fortasse scripsit de genetica in latina lingua.--Xaverius 11:37, 12 Octobris 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Ita, fortasse scripsit, sed secundum wiki Anglicanum: "Although he did not use the term gene, he explained his results in terms of inherited characteristics." Praeterea: "Mendel's concept was given a name by Hugo de Vries in 1889, who . . . coined the term "pangen" for "the smallest particle [representing] one hereditary characteristic." Item: "Danish botanist Wilhelm Johannsen coined the word "gene" ("gen" in Danish and German) in 1909 to describe these fundamental physical and functional units of heredity, while the related word genetics was first used by William Bateson in 1905. The word was derived from Hugo de Vries' 1889 term pangen for the same concept, itself a derivative of the word pangenesis coined by Darwin (1868)." Item: "Darwin used the term Gemmule to describe a microscopic unit of inheritance." Anglicum gemmule manifesto est Latinum gemmula. Quidquid verbum Latinum pro Anglico gene est optimum, non dubitamus quin non sit genus, cui iam sunt significationes generalis (genus), grammaticalis (genus), et taxinomica (genus). IacobusAmor 12:11, 12 Octobris 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Pagina nostra de Georgio Mendel dat genum n., et sic sequitur exemplum Lexici Latinitatis Recentioris (quem fontem huius vocabuli David Morgan in pagina sua praebet)--123.192.64.184 12:35, 12 Octobris 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: :::: Ecce Nuntii Latini (25.11.2005) a Reijo Pitkäranta collecti: "Genum dyslexiae inventum. Grex investigatorius Finno-Sueticus in chromosomo tertio novum genum ad dyslexiam pertinens invenit. Si hoc genum nomine ROBO1 aliqua ex causa aequo debilius fungitur, fieri non potest, quin dyslexia sequatur. Qui erat eventus investigationis medicae, quam rerum periti Universitatis Helsinkiensis et Instituti Carolini Stockholmiensis opera consociata fecerunt." Neander 12:59, 12 Octobris 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Anglicum ''gene'' = Latinum ''genus''?
Disputatio Formulae:Ars et litterae

message: "Pellicula" ought to be changed "Cinematographia." Pellicula refers to a specific work of film (i.e. a movie) and cinematographia refers to the art. --SECUNDUS ZEPHYRUS 17:47, 17 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Thanks. If you need to do this again, Formula:Artesbox encloses Formula:Artes, which is the one you need to edit. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:33, 17 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pellicula
Disputatio:Lingua Thai

message: Lingua Thai fortasse melius? "Thailandica" cum nomine nationis adsimilat et morphema Germanicum "-land-" incorporat. Re vera gentes qui Thailandiam incolunt multas linguas loquuntur. In nonnullis aliis linguis (e.g. Anglice) hanc linguam "Thai" appellant (sed, admitto, in aliis etiam "Thailandese" etc.!)
Would lingua Thai be better? "Thailandica" aligns it with the name of the state, and it includes the Germanic morpheme "-land-". Whereas, in fact, people who live in Thailand speak lots of languages. In many other languages this one is called simply "Thai" ... but, I admit, in some others it is called "Thailandese" etc. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:51, 17 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomen
Disputatio:Galfridus Beaumont

message: Does anyone know his English name? Without that, the article is difficult to link to the real world. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:38, 18 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Got him now. Our page seems to be an unacknowledged translation of the site I added to "Nexus externi": we ought to add information from elsewhere somehow. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:33, 18 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name? Source?
Disputatio:Fulbertus Carnotensis

message: Haec verba "sanctus agnoscitur in ecclesiis Romana Catholica et Anglicana qui" removi quia secundum en:wiki minime canonizatus est. Si en:wiki errat, debemus documenta canonizationis citare. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:21, 18 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nemo recte ante saeculum dodecimum "canonizatum' dici potest qualiter nunc id vocabulum intelligimus. Immo usque ad hoc tempus, sancti localiter agnoscebantur, sine ulla affirmatione a Sancta Sede. Multi quos vocamus sanctos non 'canonizati' sunt. Fulbertus re vera sanctus habetur, et in libris et dictionariis sanctorum includitur. Festum eius diei 10 Aprilis caelebratur. Tergum violinae 21:12, 18 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Gratias ago. Id nescivi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:39, 22 Aprilis 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sanctus?
Disputatio:Turcia

message: I am sorry , my latine is little so ı speak english. I want to change costantinopolis because it's name is ISTANBUL. some respect please. [Scripsit 78.162.218.135 14:34, 22 Aprilis 2009]
replies: text: Istanbul is a offical name so Costantinapolis is wrong . I advice "" Istanbul (Costantinapolis)"" [Scripsit 78.188.63.219 13:34, 26 Septembris 2010]
replies: text: :Istanbul is the official Turkish name, but we are here in the Latin (not in the Turkish) Vicipaedia. I have no problem with "Istanbul", if there is a Latin attestation for it! By the way, look at other cities, for example the Austrian capital "Wien" (which has been the official name for hundred of years!) is called Vienna and Vindobona in Latin, Vienna in English, Bécs in Hungarian, Beç in former Turkish (Osmanlı Türkçesi) and Viyana in modern Turkish. People (and peoples) speak as they like  - no state has the power nor the right to control people's speech and thinking beyond its borders (and in my opinion not even within)--Utilo 16:19, 26 Septembris 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: ::As a rule, it's only polite to call people by the names they prefer, but our anonymous querist will observe that Vicipaedia's practice with regard to placenames is to cite the original or most familiar Latin name before the official name (or a Latin variant of it), as in:
replies: text: :::Francia . . . sive Francogallia, rite Respublica Francica (Francice: République française)

text: :::France . . . or Francogaul, rightly French Republic (in French: République française)

text: ::By that standard, the questioned lemma is correct, though one might offer a few quibbles, for example, whether Byzantium belongs in the list (before Istanbul). ¶ As to a state's right to control speech: states do try, and they sometimes succeed. The publisher of an encyclopedia with which I've been involved yielded to Ivory Coast's demand that its name always be given in English contexts as "Côte d'Ivoire"—a demand to which even the English wikipedia more or less accedes. IacobusAmor 16:47, 26 Septembris 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: :::If a name is offensive in some way, we should accede to requests to change it. But I can't see what would be offensive about Constantinopolis. I notice the same name (Κωνσταντινούπολη) is used on the Greek Wikipedia. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:53, 26 Septembris 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen