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Disputatio:Stuartus Drummond

message: I took this off: "aliter Simia Harlepolitana" because, without knowing the local context, it sounds derogatory to me. If published support can be found for it, one could argue for including it. I don't see the equivalent on the English page. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Vide en:wiki "H'Angus the Monkey" et quoque paginam de Harlepoli in vicipaedia.82.36.94.228 12:31, 9 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cognomen
Disputatio:Symphonia nona Ludovici van Beethoven

message: Spero che questo articolo aiute migliorare tutti gli articoli di symphoniam nella Vicipedia Latina. La nona di Beethove e la prima specimen di symphonie; migliramenti a questo articolo saranno emulati in altri articoli. Farfallone Amoroso 22:46, 9 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mi dispiace, Farfallone, ma non capisco perche credi che questo articolo e uno essemplo che dobbiamo emulare? Sono d'accordo, davvero, che la nona e meravigliosa, ma non c'e niente d'eleganza nel questo articolo. Anche il titulo e male scritto. Che pensi? --Ioscius (disp) 04:16, 10 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Non emulare la versio originalis di questo articolo. Emulare la versio con li tuoi miglioramenti. Ora possiamo recensere gli altri articoli di symphoniam, per esempio XXIII.a Symphonia de Haydn. Farfallone Amoroso 17:01, 10 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Aha, allora capisco. Vorresti fare questo articolo l'ottimo degli articoli di sonfonie? --Ioscius (disp) 02:21, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

message: Desideratur versio huius carminis prudenter latine facta sive ad cantandum apta sive ad verbum expressa. Nemini nostrum ulla nota est? --Bavarese (disputatio) 08:22, 31 Iulii 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Versio latina odae a Schiller factae
Disputatio:Translitteratio

message: βιδεο aut ουιδεο? et χομινες aut ὁμινες? Nescius sum de translitteratione Graeca. --Xaverius 15:51, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Or even ϝιδεο?!--Xaverius 15:53, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

text: I just noticed my own joke there: ϝιδεο =)--Xaverius 15:55, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Yeah... good question, probably with digamma... but then, in modern Greek, the beta is probably more accurate. I see by your signature you've become a Euskaldunak on us ;] I have to learn a non-indoeuropean language to be competitive for grad school, and Basque is at the top of my list of Basque/Finnish/Manchu... --Ioscius (disp) 16:05, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::If you want to learn Basque, I could point you towards the right direction... eta bai, ni gaur Euskaldun bat naiz!--Xaverius 17:22, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::Ostende, quaeso!--Ioscius (disp) 17:55, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

text: ::Or Samoan? Thanks to the missionaries, its vocabulary includes (nativized forms of) quite a few Greek, Hebrew, and Latin words. IacobusAmor 16:18, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::But Basque has the coolness factor of being a language isolate (unless you jive with the Niger-Congo theory...), Finnish has awesome vowel harmony and cool umlauts and upsila all over the place, and Manchu has the absolute coolest alphabet on earth. Convince me about Samoan? ;] --Ioscius (disp) 16:27, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Um, the fact that Samoa has a greater proportion of its sons in the NFL than does any other polity outside the fifty U.S. states? ¶ The problem with an isolate is that its details won't help you with any other language. IacobusAmor 17:25, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::"The problem extremely cool and intriguing thing with an isolate is that its details won't help you with any other language" I didn't know that about NFLers. How do they do in real football? --Ioscius (disp) 17:55, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

text: Videō has a long final, so if anything it would be οὐίδεω, would it not?--Ceylon 19:26, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Excellent point. --Ioscius (disp) 19:39, 11 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: De graeca versione

message: Supplementum, quod feci, in Abecedarium Cyrillicum vel in Lingua Russica insertum magis idoneum sit, sed ad hanc paginam plus quam mille nexus a translitterationubus nominum Russicorum ducunt. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 18:11, 12 Octobris 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  De litteris Cyrillicis 

message: תרס הוּמינס וידיוּ? really? a latin /t/ is almost systematically transcribed by a teth. I'd expect טרס הומינס וידאו, perhaps טריס הומיניס וידיאו if more plene. also, definitely no וּ for /o/.
for the greek version, I'm surprised at the lack of accents.
τρὴς ὅμινες οὐίδεω more accurately. 
For the cyrillic, I believe a more regular transcription of latin /h/ is very rarely х, г more often.
трес гоминес видео
--ΟυώρντΑρτ (disputatio) 15:17, 21 Iunii 2022 (UTC)
ΟυώρντΑρτ (disputatio) 15:17, 21 Iunii 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  De hebraica versione
Disputatio:LeBron James

message: Haec pagina nexus "intravicos" caret; id est nulla pagina ad hanc nexum caeruleum habet. Habemus formulam pro hac re?--Xaverius 08:20, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Habemus indicem "Specialis:Paginae non annexae". Eum nunc in pagina prima (sub "Alias categorias paginarum recensarum" addidi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:05, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nexus intravici
Disputatio:Pampanga

message: ;condita
IF THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE GRAMMAR PLS ALLOW IT. Why should condita est be better than condidit? They mean the same. --Jondel 13:40, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They don't "mean the same." What you wrote was Pampanga est provincia. . . . Hanc provinciam condidit = 'Pampanga is a province. . . . It [i.e., Pampanga] founded this province'—which makes no sense. IacobusAmor 16:51, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
;hanc
Is there a reason why we should remove hanc? Please allow it to stay. In all the languages I know, I normaly place either a 'this' or a 'the' about the main subject. Hanc corresponds best and it is not wrong latin. --Jondel 13:40, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

text: It's grammatically OK but stylistically otiose. Only one province is in question; a this–that contrast is therefore misleading. Any responsible editor, in any language, would cut a word for 'this' there. IacobusAmor 16:48, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
;Quam
Why should this be removed?!!!  This makes the subject clearer. Comon!!--Jondel 13:40, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

text: In "Propriam linguam loquintur, quam appelit," every word is wrong (ungrammatical or misspelled). IacobusAmor 16:48, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
;Mendum quod non morietur
Defects so that it won't die   (?)--Jondel 13:40, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :'The error that will not die'—a common tongue-in-cheek reference to misspellings of appellare—one of the most reliably misspelled words in the lexicon. IacobusAmor 16:57, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

text: These comments are inappropriate. "Hanc provinciam condidit anno 1571" means "He founded this province in the year 1571": that can't be what you intended, because you have not named any founder. The correction produced good sense, where there was none before.

text: If you're a tiro, Jondel, other Wikipedians will improve your Latin. And that's good, because you can learn from it! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:11, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :As far as I see Iacobus only corrected grammatical and spelling errors. Each language has its own rules, which its writers should follow. "quam appelit y-nominative" contains not only a misspelling but a two serious grammatical errors--a missing subject and the wrong case for y.--Rafaelgarcia 16:24, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Jondel, by all means feel free to question changes, as experienced editors may indeed make unintended new errors (and from time to time I've done so myself), though that's not usually the best way to bet. IacobusAmor 16:57, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Emendatio
Disputatio:Gregorius Turonensis

message: Have we got a policy on this? I think that Sanctus Gregorius Turonensis as main page is a POV. I think that his deeds as bishop and governor of Tours are mroe important than his later santification. Of course, redoing my edit is very easy if anyone complaints.--Xaverius 14:19, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. In fact I think I argued for this already, at Disputatio Usoris:LionhardusCiampa#Some new saints. I didn't persist: it wasn't worth it at the time!

text: I don't think we have a policy. My suggestion would be that "Sanctus" should only be used when it's needed for discretiva purposes (often, I guess, when the saint has only one name).

text: But this wasn't the proper way to do the move, because the history currently remains at "Sanctus Gregorius Turonensis". The proper way is to delete the redirect page (which probably has little or no history) and then to move the page, not to copy-and-paste it. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:27, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::I've done that now. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:07, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

text: :Isn't that how we already tend to do kings, dukes, etc.? I see that we have an article that starts "Ludovicus IX Franciae," where I'd have said "Ludovicus IX, rex Franciae, sanctus" or "Ludovicus IX, Rex Franciae, Sanctus" but certainly not "Rex Sanctus Ludovicus IX Franciae." So applying that formula to saints, we'd have something like "Gregorius Turonensis, sanctus" or "Gregorius Turonensis, Sanctus," not "Sanctus Gregorius Turonensis." Oh, and for knights, we already have the pattern of "Godfridus Kneller, Eques" = 'Sir G. K.', where the eques obligatorily follows the name; according to the style we've inherited from the Renaissance & after, "Eques Godfridus Kneller" would be Just Plain Wrong. IacobusAmor 17:13, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Yes. Additionally, as I said at Disputatio Usoris:LionhardusCiampa#Some new saints, in the case of this saint (and no doubt many others) his sanctity was by no means the most notable thing about him during his lifetime. Logically, their saintedness is part of their post-mortem fortuna -- the last section of a Vicipaedia article, and maybe the last sentence of the introduction. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:19, 12 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Nobody has answered the question of when they made him a saint. I moved his saintliness downwards, therefore, and have said for the time being that it happened in a later century. There must be a record, though. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:49, 18 Maii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: (Sanctus) Gregorius
Disputatio:131 a.C.n.

message: Delegi "Suffragia acta sunt" quod "Suffragia suffragata sunt" videtur.....supervacuum. Est via melior? Est mea approbata? CeleritasSoni 01:30, 13 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Quid significat? Anglice 'to vote' est suffragium ferre et suffragium inire. IacobusAmor 01:33, 13 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :A! Ita, illud est quod significavi. Gratias, Tenebo memoria! Promitto! CeleritasSoni 01:44, 13 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  De Suffragiis
Disputatio:Provincia Genuensis

message: A redirect from GE brings us here, but GE should rightly be a disambiguation page, as at :en:GE_(disambiguation); or, failing that, it should redirect to General Electric (see :en:General Electric), because it must be far more widely known as an abbreviation for the company than for the province. IacobusAmor 12:01, 18 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I created a disambiguation page. --UV 20:48, 18 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: GE
Disputatio:Provincia Parmensis

message: "PR" redirects here, but it should be a disambiguation page, not least because "PR" more obviously stands for Puerto Rico, not to mention Paraná (a state of Brazil); and of course in the English-speaking world and beyond, it stands unmistakably for "public relations." IacobusAmor 12:17, 18 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I created a disambiguation page. --UV 20:55, 18 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: PR
Disputatio:Canada

message: Verbum Canadiensis in Canadensis per paginam mutavi: "Google" mihi dicit formam Canadensis multo usitatiorem esse (vide et :en:Canadensis). Si male feci, oportet revertere! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:54, 21 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Canad(i)ensis

message: Verus nomen pro Canalis est "Principatus of Canalis ". Ut est rectus porro vultus. Outback the koala 22:33, 21 Decembris 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Porro nomen

message: Parabolamentum = parlamentum ? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:26, 11 Iunii 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I can find a few sources giving parabolamentum as the origin of parlement, but I'm not sure they are to be trusted, and I can't find any using it in Latin. The OED and the Trésor de la langue française say parlement was formed in French from parler and -ment, and that the medieval Latin parl(i)amentum was borrowed from French. It's true that parler comes from parabola, and I imagine someone was trying to reconstruct the Latin word without checking to see if it was actually used. Lesgles (disputatio) 20:11, 11 Iunii 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Parabolamentum?
Disputatio:Latina (provincia)

message: Nuada, cur LT adhuc dirigis? Hoc siglum generaliter est Lithuania! (Etiam ".lt" = Lithuania.) Siglum LT est lingua quoque et nummus Lithuaniae; praeterea laryngotracheitis et lymphotoxin; etiam, Anglice, lieutenant et London Transport et Lake Tahoe et lactate threshold et Laplace Transform et Lorentz transformation et left tackle et light truck et little; etiam Suecice genus autoraedae. Cur debet Vicipaedia huic provinciae praesertim favere? IacobusAmor 13:49, 21 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Siglum LT
Disputatio:Acdestinae

message: Hendrice, mutavisti
replies: text: Acdestinae (binomen a Bown & Fleagle anno 1993) sunt exstincta marsupialium subfamilia.
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text: Acdestinae (binomen ab1 Bown & Fleagle anno 1993) est2 exstinctum3 marsupialium subfamilia.
replies: text: :1. Cur? Locutio ab Bown est falsa.

text: :2. Cur? Nomen Acdestinae (sententiae subiectum) est plurale.

text: :3. Cur? Nomen subfamilia est feminina, sed adiectivum exstinctum est neutrum. IacobusAmor 21:20, 21 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Variae res
Disputatio:Romanus I Lacapenus

message: I've seen "Armenius", "Armenianus", "Armenicus", and "Armeniacus"...which should be used for formal articles? I assumed the third, though the first seems possible. Thoughts? Greatly appreciated! CeleritasSoni 23:51, 22 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Armenius is used by classical authors (Cicero, Varro, Horatius, Ovidius), Armeniacus, by Plinius. "Armenianus" and "Armenicus" must be late formations. --Neander 00:23, 23 Iunii 2009 (UTC)

text: Lingua Armenia 'Armenian language' (Varro; and see Linguae Indoeuropaeae). --Neander 00:32, 23 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Hey fella, thanks alot! CeleritasSoni 04:12, 23 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Armenian Adjective
Disputatio:Missionarius

message: Wikipedia dicit "Missionary delapsus est de verbo Latino Missioninimus (nom. Missio)". Quid forma illa est? -inimus? Est extremitas? Fortasse Missionium" aut "Missionismus" esse debet?
replies: text: Puto Wikipediam errare! IacobusAmor 03:12, 24 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Erratum? Ab Wikipedia? Vae, cui iam credēre possumus?! ;)  CeleritasSoni 03:17, 24 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
Emendare conor. Autem  emenda si tibi placeat. --Jondel (disputatio) 13:57, 17 Octobris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Nominis Fons?
Disputatio:Michael Jackson

message: Examples from Cicero, Horace, & Ovid in Cassell's (under morior) show that the thing that people die of, literally or figuratively, is in the bare ablative; ergo melius "infarctu cordis mortuus." (Fourth declension?) Also, Livy has an example of the ablative with ex. ¶ However, do we really know for sure that it was an infarct? The doctors at his bedside were unwilling to sign a certificate saying so, and they preferred to let the coroner decide. All we know right now is that his heart stopped ("cardiac arrest"). IacobusAmor 12:27, 26 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "mortuus propter infarctum cordis"

message: The text once called him a cantor, and now calls him a musicus. More pertinent, I'd say, would be saltator, but the English wiki may have the best take on him: he was a "recording artist and entertainer." We're too close in time to pronounce a permanent judgment, but it seems likely that his main contribution to history was choreography, captured in a widely watched video; add singing & self-promotion to that, and you have an "entertainer." IacobusAmor 12:27, 26 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mutavi ob repetitionem: cantor ... cantabat > musicus ... cantabat. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:31, 26 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Hmm. Sed Romani voluptatem ex repetitione ceperunt: de altera parte agri Sequanos decedere iuberet (Caes.), de digito anulum detrahere (Cic.), exire ex urbe (Cic.), eandem  canere cantilenam (Ter.). IacobusAmor 12:54, 26 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::The Washington Post casts a cold eye on his career: its front-page headline today calls him an "object of acclaim [and] curiosity." IacobusAmor 14:28, 26 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: What was he?
Disputatio:Hyracoidea

message: Estne nomen Hyracoidea plurale? Ergo, the grammar is equivalent to saying in English: "They is an order of mammals"? They is? Recte: "Hyracoidea sunt mammalium ordo"? IacobusAmor 02:48, 27 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hyracoidea est mammalium ordo
Disputatio:Procavia

message: 'Procavia is a genus of the family of hyracoids'. However: ¶ According to the "article" itself, the hyracoidea constitute an order, not a family. ¶ Since the hyracoidea are plural (one hyracoideum, two hyracoidea), their correct genitive plural is hyracoideorum. IacobusAmor 10:38, 27 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless -oidea is continuing the Greek adjective declension, in which case it'd be hyracoidum or possibly hyracoideum (cf. Declinatio Latina nominum Graecorum, though Fabullus disagrees with the idea on the talk page, sine ratione data).  Do we know whether -oidea ← -oideus or ← -οιδέα is the actual representative of the quality of bioLatin?  —Mucius Tever 02:55, 1 Iulii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :The names of all ranks above genus are plural. ¶ For the plants, Stearns's Botanical Latin (3rd ed., pp. 102–103) shows that these names can be regarded as adjectives in agreement with an understood plantae, or (in the usual manner) as nouns, feminine plurals in their own right. They take Latin, not Greek, forms. (This is apparently spelled out in the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature.) One might assume that the terms for the ranks of animals would follow the same plan: as adjectives in agreement with animalia, or as nouns, neuter plurals in their own right. ¶ For -oide- in particular: Stearns discusses -oideae (feminine, for plants, of course, not animals), and says they follow the paradigm of what he calls Group A adjectives (e.g. longus, acutus, albus, etc). ¶ Ergo, it would seem that this article should begin something like: "Procavia est genus ordinis Hyracoideorum." ¶ This article is one of a series of texts that display false grammar and confuse the terms for the ranks, one hopes not deliberately. IacobusAmor 03:42, 1 Iulii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::I know about the plurals — -oidea wasn't offered as a singular; for both -oides and -oideus it is a neuter plural.  Point taken about -oideae attesting -oideus, though (I do see it given in the ICBN, but nothing about it being on principle of preferring Latinized forms; use of a form of -oideus just seems to have been prior practice). ICZN doesn't go into any detail about the nom.sg., just saying that "the suffix -OIDEA is used for a superfamily name"—but I suppose if it's supposed to correlate to bot. -oideae it's more likely it's a form of -oideus as well.    —Mucius Tever 17:49, 3 Iulii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Procavia est genus hyracoidearum familiae."
Disputatio:Dugongidae

message: 'The dugongids is a family[.] The sirenium of the mammals'. ¶ The dugongids (the subject of the sentence) are a plural noun; est is a singular verb: this combination is ungrammatical. ¶ Sirenium is a nominative singular, so grammatically it's hanging alone out there, unjoined to anything. ¶ There are no sirenia that aren't mammals; therefore, 'of the mammals' is understood, redundant, and unnecessary. IacobusAmor 10:54, 27 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "'''Dugongidae''' est familia [[Mammalia|mammalium]] [[Sirenia|sirenium]]."
Disputatio:Birotula automataria

message: Scooter should redirect to a disambiguation page, rather than to here. Secundum en, Scooter potest significare:
*a two-wheeled motorized vehicle with a step-through frame 
*a two-wheeled motorized vehicle that is generally ridden in the standing position 
*a vehicle used as a child's plaything consisting of a footboard mounted on two wheels and a long steering handle 
*a motorized chair with three or four wheels that is designed for people with limited mobility 
*a mobility device for patients with leg injuries 
*a small, light vehicle able to travel quickly across water, ice, or snow 
*a type of recreational watercraft 
*an item of diving equipment used by scuba divers to increase their range while underwater 
*AirScooter Corporation, a company that produces an ultralight helicopter of co-axial rotor configuration 
*"The Scooter", nickname of baseball player Phil Rizzuto 
*I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Jr., political figure 
*Scooter (Muppet) 
*Scooter (SpongeBob SquarePants character) 
*Scooter (Talking Baseball), an animated baseball appearing during Fox Sports coverage of Major League Baseball 
*Scooter (comics), star of DC Comics' Swing with Scooter comic book 
*Scooter (Coronation Street character) 
*Scooter: Secret Agent, a series produced by Network Ten 
*Scooter (Gobots), fictional character in the Gobots toyline, and the subsequent Challenge of the GoBots cartoon 
*Scooter, a nickname created for John Dorian on the television show Scrubs 
*The Scooter, a giant, fast-moving storm on the planet Neptune 
*Scooter, a corruption of the word Scoter; a large black diving duck 
*Scooter (band), a German techno band 
*Scooter, a short skirt with shorts underneath, also known as a Skort 
*Scooterboy, a subculture known for riding vintage Italian scooters IacobusAmor 13:44, 27 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect
Disputatio:Ice Age (pellicula)

message: Use of the template "cine-t|ling=Anglice|LT=Aetas Glacialis" here is setting "(pellicula)" in italics, but of course it shouldn't be. How to fix? ¶ Also, "Aetas Glacialis" is coming out in quotation marks, rather than italics. How to fix? IacobusAmor 01:01, 29 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
Fixed. Ice Age lover 03:04, 6 Iulii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Curious template
Disputatio:Electricitas

message: Electricitas
We have Fluxio electrica. Is this the translation? 
At the moment Electricitas is a redirect to Fluxio electrica.
--Rolandus 06:58, 5 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Eventually Electricitas deserves its own page. Electricity is more general than electric current.--Rafaelgarcia 09:16, 9 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Disputatio duplicata ab Usor:Rolandus/Most important 1000 pages/Electricity

message: Since the article "Electricitas" already exists and redirects to Fluxio electrica, I've instituted Electricitas ipsa so that it can be equivalent to :en:Electricity, one of the 1000 pages and hence highly desirable here; but this solution to the problem is clumsy, and somebody should eliminate the redirect and rename this page "Electricitas." IacobusAmor 14:29, 29 Iunii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Commentarii nomen