lflage/wiki-talks huggingface dataset:
Disputatio:Viriathus

message: ¡Hay que añadir lo de "Roma no paga traidores"! - numquam Romanis placuisse imperatores a suis militibus interfici (Eutrop. VI.16)--Xaverius 23:25, 18 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Como puedes ver, he eliminado el rótulo de construcción por lo que puedes añadir lo que te parezca oportuno. Seguro que tienes más referentes que yo. Saludos.--Imtoo 13:24, 19 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  De morte
Disputatio:Hercules

message: I've deleted the fable on Hercules, which should be in vicilibris but I do not know how do they work there. It is still possible, though, to retrieve the text and move it from there into vicilibros.--Xaverius 13:32, 19 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Vicifons would be the place for it. See also Disputatio:Odyssea. --UV 14:36, 21 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: De fabula

message: Wikipedia has both :en:Hercules (the Roman god) and :en:Herakles (the Greek god); Vicipaedia has the former, but not the latter, and it's the latter that's in the 10K list. So should Hercules be renamed in Greek and then linked to :en:Herakles so as to get the points on offer for :en:Herakles? or should a new article, on Herakles be written and thus linked (with the old Hercules being rewritten to refer mainly to the Roman god)? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:01, 16 Aprilis 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to mention the Etruscan interpretation known as :en:Hercle. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:04, 16 Aprilis 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: :The classical Latin spelling has always been Hercules, regardless of the myths or rituals being discussed. Since this seems to deal with the original Greek myth (except perhaps the sentence quoting Seneca?), I rather think that we could just keep Hercules and change the Wikidata links to math :en:Herakles. If someone wants to write something about the Roman god in particular, it could go at Hercules in mythologia Romana or the like. Lesgles (disputatio) 00:57, 17 Aprilis 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: ::I've expanded the page and just linked it to en:Heracles.--Utilo (disputatio) 13:26, 22 Octobris 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Index 10K
Disputatio:Punctum liquefactionis

message: Quid est hoc nomen arcanum? Linguae iam est verbum liquefacere (non liquofacere). IacobusAmor 03:36, 20 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Iustum interrogatum. Paginam movi. --Neander 14:29, 20 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: liquofactu?
Disputatio:Castella et Legio

message: Why is every single province and capital in Galician, "Leonese" and "Extremaduran"? For the sake of brevity and clearness, it should only be in Latin and in Spanish--Xaverius 20:07, 20 Februarii 2009 (UTC)

message: Cortes re vera cohortes sunt? et buleuterium pro ayuntamiento? Sitne curia melior?--Xaverius 11:14, 21 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: De nominis

message: Disculpad mi falta de latín. Castilla y León no tiene capital. Las cortes están en Valladolid, pero no es la capital, otros edificios institucionales se encuentran en Burgos y en León. Saludos.  Contiqui (disputatio) 10:34, 29 Martii 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caput non est Valladolid
Disputatio Categoriae:Homines qui sibi mortem consciverunt

message: Two questions here. (1) Is homines qui good Latin? As I recall, this qui all by itself means 'people who'. (2) What's wrong with suicida for 'a suicide, a person who commits suicide'? Classical Latin already had homicida for 'murderer', matricida for 'matricide, a mother-murderer', and parricida for 'parricide, a father-murderer'; suicida would approximate the pattern. Also, if we can infer from the etymology in the OED, the New Latin word suicida came into existence in or before the seventeenth century, and we already use plenty of words coined much more recently than that. IacobusAmor 21:09, 21 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This doesn't seem to be a question for me (or for the taberna, really) so I'll copy it to Disputatio Categoriae:Homines qui sibi mortem consciverunt. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:17, 22 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :The category was created anonymously (by Massimo, possibly?) It's very useful, but personally I agree with Iacobus that the name isn't perfect. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:27, 22 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::To commit suicide can be said in a few dozen ways in good Latin, but none of them involves suicida. It is not even mentioned in Du Cange (see  ). The category as it stands is a bit unwieldy, but grammatically unobjectionable. Of course, homines qui could be (but does not have to be) replaced by a simple qui. Shorter, but not really more attractive alternatives might be Morte voluntaria mortui or Manu propria mortui?--Ceylon 11:37, 22 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Yes, I guess my only reason for saying the name wasn't perfect was that I have a fetish for brevity, and the Homines is redundant. But no reason to rename the category on those grounds alone. And, as I said, it's a useful category. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:40, 23 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Categoria: Homines qui sibi mortem consciverunt
Disputatio:Norvegia

message: "Alt for Norge (Totum pro Norvegia)" est sententia regalis, non nationalis. Finnrind 19:59, 23 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
Norway also borders to Russia.

message: W doesn’t exist, and aren’t Noruegia and Norvegia the same thing? 71.141.101.92 17:36, 5 Augusti 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think W doesn't exist you must be living in the past. This would make you an almost-ideal contributor: stick around.

text: I guess someone was trying to say that the u might be treated as a vowel or a consonant in this name? I don't really know: clarification is needed. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:52, 5 Augusti 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Norvegia''' sive '''Norwegia''' sive '''Noruegia'''
Disputatio:Villa Romana ad Fishbourne

message: If Fishbourne is in Kent, and if Kent is a city in Britain, I'm a Dutchman. What should we call a "palace"? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:03, 24 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: More than a palace, I reckon it is a villa. Very sumptuous, but a villa nontheless.--Xaverius 14:29, 24 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scientia dubia
Disputatio:Eugenius Victor Debs

message: What is this? Is it translated from the "International Labor Union" mentioned on en:wiki? If so, that name has no link on en:wiki, so I wonder if there is some mistake? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:09, 24 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it refer to the "Wobblies"? (The Industrial Workers of the World.) IacobusAmor 15:54, 24 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :No, it doesn't seem to: they are named separately on the page, as "Industriales Opifices Orbis Terrarum". Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:00, 24 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Is industrialis, -e a word? Classical Latin already had industrius, -a, -um. Since o. mundi is already attested by Cicero, would Industrii/Industriales Mundi Opifices work? IacobusAmor 17:11, 24 Februarii 2009 (UTC)

text: : When referring to the IWW, other Wikis tend to use the English name. I suggest we do the same. Of course, this doesn't help the category problem. --Neander 00:11, 25 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internationale Collegium Opificum? 

message: ...dux conversionis? --Alex1011 19:05, 2 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Vult dicere ut videtur "American union leader," sed tecum puto non esse rectum. IacobusAmor 19:38, 2 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quid est...
Disputatio:Ordinatio Regni Mineralium secundum Linnaeum

message: Can anyone find articles corresponding to this on other wikis? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:27, 25 Februarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nexus desiderati 

message: A.D. 1505, physicus Ulricus Ruelein de Kalbe (germanice Ulrich Rülein von Kalbe), in primo opere geologico impresso (VULGO Ein Nützlich Berg büchlin von allen Metallen als Golt , Silber , Zeyn , Kupfer ertz , Eisen stein , Bleyertz , und von Quecksilber), mineralia tribus subclassibus dividet: VULGO non definitur! Hispanice? Anglice? Francogallice? Russice? aut GERMANICE ? Germanice vere! -- [Anon]
replies: text: Ita. Verbum hic introductum est, abhinc decem annos, ab usore 151.20.186.194, qui eodem fere tempore paginam "Synonymia" creavit! Pace eo, hoc loco "Theodisce" et "vulgo" non sunt synonyma. Corrigo. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:47, 12 Iunii 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  VULGO
Disputatio:Imperium Romanum Occidentale

message: Xaverius, que no se supone que la primera división fue con Diocleciano en el año 286 con 2 césares y 2 augustos? Herr Thor Hdz
replies: text: Sec. Paginam Wikipiadianm Anglicam, habemus primam divisionem fuisse ob Deiocletianum anno 286, quidem ut suggerit Herr.--71.87.208.246 03:47, 4 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Pero no fue una división permanente, porque ras la tetrarquía Constantino fue emperador único. Teodosio fue el último emperador único. Habría entonces que poner las dos cosas, dejando claro que si bien Diocleciano hizo un primer reparto, fue sólo trsa la muerte de Teodosio cuando se separaron definitivamente.--Xaverius 09:50, 4 Martii 2009 (UTC)

message: To add "multi historici putant" is not much of an improvement, it seems to me ... Which historians, for example? And if other historians don't think this, what do they think? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:33, 4 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And, rereading, surely no historian in the world will claim that the Eastern Roman Empire ended in 476? Shome mishtake shurely, as Bill Deedes would have said. I'm no longer sure what this sentence was originally intended to say, but I'll have a go at making sense. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:45, 4 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ah, I see. I'm not rereading. It's been edited. I'll edit it back again. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:48, 4 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:en:Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words|Weasel words]]"
Disputatio:Mumbai

message: Ad :en:Heptanesia legimus Mumbai antiquitus a Claudio Ptolemaeo (Geographia 7.1.95) Heptanesiam vocatam esse. Propono hanc paginam Heptanesiam renominare. --Fabullus 21:16, 6 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In dubio sum. Heptanesia est nomen Graecum; nobis oportet nomen Latinum praeferre. Et Heptanesia nomen est insularum, minime urbis. Igitur credo versionem aliquam Latinam nominis urbis praeferendam. Apud "dioeceses Catholicas" "Archidioecesis Bombayensis" reperio, sed quomodo verbum substantivum ex hoc nomine extrahere? Sine dubio fontes Latinitatis recentiores possumus reperire. -- [PS: Fortasse pagina nova Heptanesia debet nexum praebere ad paginam Anglicam :en:Seven islands of Bombay?] [PPS: Dormi bene!]  Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:43, 6 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Vicipaedia Graeca el:Βομβάη habet, ita fortasse Bombae, -es vel Bombaa, -ae secundum regulas nostras? --Gabriel Svoboda 07:18, 7 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Bombaya, -ae a Vaticano usurpatur: . --Gabriel Svoboda 07:38, 7 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heptanesia 

message: As a result of the deletion of the old "capsa coloniae" formula, this page has lost some ground in the 1000 Pages listing.  Not a crisis -- I'm just recording the observation here so we know what happened.  A. Mahoney (disputatio) 14:14, 17 Iunii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: A couple of months before, IIRC, Bellum Indosinense II also fell below 30K as a result of similar tidying, which in the long run will be useful, but in the short sun causes these little blips. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:35, 17 Iunii 2016 (UTC)

text: Oh, it was this one. Sorry. But I'm working on oriental cities right now and will build Mumbai up again, I promise. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:48, 17 Iunii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page now below 30K characters
Disputatio:Margarita Mead

message: Yes, the categories are fine, Andrew, but I don't understand why you (and others) often put categories in random order! IacobusAmor 13:29, 7 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a long discussion at Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 10#Order of categories but I don't think we reached a conclusion, did we? If there's a consensus, I'll follow it. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:13, 7 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Yes, the categories
Disputatio:Martha Warren Beckwith

message: When she died, she was 88 years and ten days old. So was she anno aetatis suae octogensimo octavo? or  anno aetatis suae octogensimo nono? The former may be the more meaningful descriptor, and it would be the more accurate if we rounded off to the nearest year; but we can't deny that, technically, she was in her eighty-ninth year. IacobusAmor 13:40, 7 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Anno aetatis suae
Disputatio:Melissa Harrington

message: Check it out. She really does love the Maizoglubentes: http://www.melissa-midwest.info/pictures/nebraska-game.jpg. Acsarben 15:37, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, citing a source is exactly what you need to do for such an assertion! But unfortunately the link above is not generally accessible, or at least not to me.

text: Again, if you want to state the policemen's reasons for harassing her, you'll have to give reasons that are supported by sources. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:42, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Don't be a hater, Andreas. Of all the unsourced faex of Vicipaedia, you choose this to make a stink about? Do you hate  the Nebrascani that much? Acsarben 16:59, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::We really do have to be careful what we say about living people (and she is obviously very much alive). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:11, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::I'm glad you noticed. We Nebrascani are sometimes worried about you, Andreas Dalby. Acsarben 17:18, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nebrascani Maizoglubentes
Disputatio:Vermis

message: I wrote this article originally as Vermiculus, to tie in with the noun vermiculus in Tangaloa (where the entities in question are maggots), but then it became clear that the English original was covering too many animals, so I changed it to Vermis. Was/Is there in Latin a well-accepted differentiation between these terms? or were/are they used interchangeably? For the sake of clarity, unless attested usage argues otherwise, I suggest differentiating between vermes (as "true" worms, in some strict, technically definable sense) and vermiculi (wormlike stages of insects, known in English as caterpillars, grubs, larvae, and maggots). IacobusAmor 19:36, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I couldn't help but create the article. Please feel free to change.Jondel (disputatio) 11:00, 19 Martii 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Vermis ~ vermiculus?

message: Now I find that Vicipaedia already had an article on this subject, a hiccup of a stub entitled wrongly in the plural: Vermes (which is why I didn't find it earlier). Its lemma is defined as "nomen pluribus commune animantibus," with its entire remaining text being "Habent corpora producta, tenera et ossium experta. Inter ceteros vermes appellantur lumbrici et annelida." What to do? I'll mark the short text for deletion, and more-experienced contributors can suggest how to improve the situation. IacobusAmor 19:36, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You are fairly experienced :) The right thing is to merge the articles (i.e. to ensure that any sensible info and any useful picture in the poorer article is included in the better one, and then to make the poorer article into a redirect). You are the ideal person to do this, because you have just written the good article so you know best if anything needs to be included. If not, just be bold and make Vermes a redirect to Vermis. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:59, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :I might if I knew how. The picture is already in the bigger version (Vermis). The smaller version's only concept not in the bigger version is that the bodies of worms are 'experienced at/in bones' (ossium experta), whatever that means! IacobusAmor 20:50, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Ah, it's trying to say 'boneless.' But wouldn't that be ossium expertia? IacobusAmor 20:55, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Commentarius prior
Disputatio:Ioannes Pule

message: Andrew, I take it that Niue, Niues is based on a Greek model? For Polynesian names ending in -e (which are rather rare), it may be clearer than the previously proposed paradigm (e.g. Niue, Niuis; Fue, Fuis). I was using the adjective Niueanus, -a, -um precisely to avoid this issue, but it should be faced! For my enlightenment, could you specify all its caseforms? IacobusAmor 13:47, 9 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was hoping you'd comment. I don't really recommend the Greek-based declension because Latin authors tended to be inconsistent in forming it. I simply wanted a genitive, and if "Niuis" agrees with precedent, I'll take it! OK? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:06, 9 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :No, no: I'm saying I like the look of the genitive Niues better and would like to compare it with the paradigm that I already know! The form to avoid is Niuae because (in the previously published paradigm) that would imply that the nominative is Niua, which it isn't, though Niua is a perfectly good Polynesian word and is in fact a multiply attested placename! IacobusAmor 14:11, 9 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Mea sententia nomina peregrina potius non sunt declinanda. Melius praepone nomen aliquid declinabile ut 'urbs' aut 'insula' (nescio quid sit 'Niue') --Fabullus 14:23, 9 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Ita, haec est regula nostra, sed credo de nominibus Polynesiis necnon Finnicis legem specialem statuimus: recte dico, Iacobe? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:19, 10 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Declinatio nominum Polynesiorum in ''-e''
Disputatio:Ganges

message: suggests "loca demissiora" (hence I tried "regionem demissiorem") for low-lying districts. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:42, 11 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooh, that's an excellent example & source! I'll bookmark it. Thanks! ¶ I imagine that the topic of geography in general will offer numerous idioms that are missing from Vicipaedia because most of the geographic subjects so far covered have been rather formulaic: V est urbs X-milia hominum in Y prope Z, and that sort of thing. (How many paltry West European hamlets do we have, as against consequential conurbations in the rest of the world?) Ganges gets into details of terrain & culture that haven't yet typically come up in Vicipaedia. IacobusAmor 16:59, 11 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographical basin 

message: : Hanc disputationem ad Disputatio:Varanasi movi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:27, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Forma nominis urbani

message: Do placenames plural in form (e.g., Athenae, Mycenae, Pherae, Pisae, Rusellae, Thebae, Tres Tabernae; Labici, Pompeii, Rubi, Veii) take singular or plural verbs? IacobusAmor 21:57, 11 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Numerum pluralem secundum :wikt:Athenae. --Alex1011 22:55, 11 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :Hehe. Secundum te ipsum ibi, 09:26, 23 Septembris 2006. ;) IacobusAmor 01:37, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::The grammar book "Grammar of the Latin language, By Karl Gottlob Zumpt, Leonhard Schmitz, Charles Anthon" says: use plural verb except when in opposition to urbs, oppidum or civitas: ,  --Rafaelgarcia 02:47, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Ah, good. So we have Athenae sunt but Athenae, urbs nobilissima, est. Presumably the proximity of the appositive and the verb is the governing factor? IacobusAmor 03:28, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Not quite just due to the proximity, apparently, since in the text the same author says that, in other instances of plural in opposition with singular, the verb normally agrees with whichever is the subject noun, not the opposed noun. "Tullia, deliciae nostrae, ...flagitat" but "Athenae, urbs nobillisima, ... est. I think it must be because the romans did really think of Athenae as singular, but grudgingly submitted to the rule of grammar when they had no other choice.--Rafaelgarcia 11:11, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pluralia locorum nomina
Disputatio:Feretrum

message: Quaestiones parvas sequentibus de sententiis habeo:
"Tegumine frequenter est operto ut exsequiae maiore dignitate praebeantur."
Verbum 'opertum' in 'operto' mutatum est, sed estne 'feretrum' subjectum sententiae? Id est, 'feretrum saepe est opertum tegumine [instrumento].'
replies: text: "Tegumine ... est opertum" in "tegumine ... est operto" mutavi, quod "opertum" credidi adiectivum esse, et ablativum qualitatis ("capite est operto") putavi aptum esse usu. Sed symbolá Anglicá ("bier") inspectá video me graviter errasse. At equidem "A bier is often draped with cloth" Latine "(feretrum) saepe tegimine ambicitur" vel "(f.) tegimine ambici solet" reddiderim. --Neander 19:20, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)
"sarcophagus est positus ut vel in medio (aperte, ut omnes laudare possint) iaceat."
'In statum' posuerat pro "in medio," cum in pagina anglica adsit comma "lie in state," quae sententia technica est referens ad tempus cum cadaver in medio capso est positum ut omnes id videant priusquam supultum est.
Discrimen etiam inest paginis anglicis inter "lie in state" et "lie in repose," quorum ille ad homines publicos laudandos est designatus, hic ad homines privatos. Si "iacere in statum" tibi non placet, fortasse "iacere in speciem," "in conspectum apertum" vel similia. Pro "lie in repose" fortasse "iacere in quietem."
Quid putas?
--Thesaurus 18:09, 11 Martii 2009 (UTC)

text: "Lying in state" vel "to lie in state" est idioma Anglicum, quod  "statu" vix potest Latine reddi. (Francogallice, ut opinor, "lit de parade" fere 'lectus pompae', Graece autem "prothesis" 'expositio'.) Equidem "A bier is a stand on which a corpse ... is placed to lie in state" Latine "Feretrum est lectus in quo cadaver honoris causa sollemniter exponitur" fere reddiderim. Forsitan alius quis meliorem excogitet locutionem. --Neander 19:20, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: : Mea sententia, melius est nomine (neque circumlocutione) ad "lying in state" designandum ita uti, ut commentationem de :en:Lying in state scribere possimus... Sane, translatio tua huic commentationi bona est, sed non titulo commentationis! :) Mattie 18:27, 12 Novembris 2011 (UTC)

message: Would :en:Catafalque be a suitable English-language equivalent? (The English page links to various other languages with similar-sounding equivalents, with the conspicuous exception of DE, which has "Castrum doloris.")
71.33.211.4 02:50, 15 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly, the present article is based on :en:Bier. --Neander 02:58, 15 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: : Ah, so it is. 67.40.157.119 06:45, 15 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intervici?
Disputatio:2005

message: I took this out of the page. The titles need to be in the original language, not in Latin. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:05, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)
 == Carmina Popularia ==
 * Puella Rica - Gvendolyna Stephani
 * II A.M. (Spirare) - Anna Nalica
 * Post his Oculis Fulvis - Cellia Clarcsona
 * Quod Tu - Cellia Clarcsona
 * Negotium Dulcum - L Cent
 * Via Somniorum Fractorum - Dies Viridis
thread_title:  Removi
Disputatio:Carolus Davila

message: Haec e pagina removi quia e versione quadam illitterata Dacoromano-Anglica derivant. Veram linguam editionis verosque titulos nescio. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:45, 13 Martii 2009 (UTC)
*Syphilis Prophylaxis (1853)
*Athmospheric Air (1871).
thread_title:  "Opera"
Disputatio:Mauri et Christiani

message: The same concept is important in folk performances in South America. IacobusAmor 12:28, 15 Martii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? Never heard that. But I reckon they do not do it with Moors and Christians, anyway.--Xaverius 12:37, 15 Martii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: South America