Disputatio:Mongolia

message: Cur non Mogolia?  Latine Mogoles vocantur...  —Myces Tiberinus 01:16 mai 9, 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't be silly, they're also called Mongoli, Mongali, Moal, Mogores and so on, so why not use the modern-looking form? -Iustinus 03:58 mai 9, 2005 (UTC)

message: Hmmm, i might agree with Usor:84.151.230.172, that websiteis a bit spammish. It does have info about mongolia, and several pictures...but it is mainly a tourist/travel website. I'm for keeping the delete...opinions?--Ioshus Rocchio 00:59, 14 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spam 

message: Populus cuius dux erat Cingischam latine vocatur Tartari. Scriptores ecclesiastici et viatores nomina Monglos et Mongalos et Mongol cognoverunt sed passim his praetulerunt Tartaros.
*Ipsi quoque Tartari proprie loquendo se vocant Mongli sive Mongol…  Simon de Saint-Quentin, Historia Tartarorum 32.34.
*Itaque cum multis equis…ad pugnam contra Mongalos seu Tartaros processerunt.  Iohannes de Plano Carpini, Liber Tartarorum 32.10
Patria Tartarorum est scilicit Tartaria. Nusquam non legimus Mogoliam.
*Hi etenim prius adhuc in terra sua, videlicet Tartaria, que affinis est Indie, residentes…  Simon de Saint-Quentin, Historia Tartarorum 30.69. 
Haec pagina moveri debet   Wayne's Quicky Lube 15:35, 19 Octobris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sed temporibus nostris distinguuntur Tatari et Mongoles. Si Mongoles mediaevales "Tartaros" appellamus et patriam "Tartariam", confundimus ea quae ethnographi hodierni distinguunt. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:44, 19 Octobris 2007 (UTC)
Intellegimus bene temporibus nostris distinctionem Monglorum et Tartarorum. Lingua Latina nec distinguit nec distinet. Profecto est una gens vel gentes ab una origine. Est situm ethnographos hodiernos in hodierno sermone exsultare. Mogolia scribitur non feliciter. Wayne's Quicky Lube 18:06, 19 Octobris 2007 (UTC)

text: "Profecto est una gens vel gentes ab una origine." Minime, ut credo. Tatari linguam e familia Turcica loquuntur, Mongoli e Mongolica.

text: Bene. Haec pagina debet de civitate hodierna disserere. Si vis historiam separare et novam paginam facere de "Tartaris" et "Tartaria" mediaevalibus, tabula ex hac pagina utens, optime! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:25, 19 Octobris 2007 (UTC)
Et Lingua Turcica et Lingua Monglica sunt generis Altaicae. Hanc ob causam Sarmatas vel Scythas vocabimus omnes. (ride) Wayne's Quicky Lube 19:32, 19 Octobris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tartaria et Tartari

message: Can we by any feasibility call the Republic of Mongolia in Latin as Mongolia Ulterior or Mongolia Exterior in accordance with Mongolia Citerior sive Mongolia Interior? --170.64.218.143 07:32, 21 Martii 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The first footnote shows that its established Latin name is Mongolia. Also: nomen is neuter. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:39, 21 Martii 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: :Yes, that's the simple main reason. A supplementary reason is that the state itself does not use such a name (in its own or any language) so it would be "over-translation" for us to do so.

text: :If the suggested name is actually used in any reliable Latin source, in reference to this state, we could add the name in a footnote, citing the source. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:06, 21 Martii 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomines Alternativa