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Disputatio Categoriae:Politici Austriae

message: Nonne haec categoria rerum politicarum periti Austriaci esse debet?--Irenaeus 10:07, 14 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Praeferam nomen breve: Viri politici Austriaci aut Legati Austriaci. Harrissimo 10:41, 14 Februarii 2008 (UTC).
replies: text: :We have in the past used viri publici in category names but I think it won't really do (at least as a category name in modern politics) because it excludes women, and the same applies to viri politici.

text: :At the moment I use Legatus for diplomats (ambassadors etc.). However, I see that in some US politics pages legatus is used for "representatives", i.e. home-grown politicians. I don't mind, really, but if it's agreed that legatus means politician generally, or representative in the national assembly, then we need another word for diplomats, ambassadors etc.! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:45, 14 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::If a vir civilis is a politician, does that make an Austriacus civilis an Austrian politician (Austriacus as a noun should be like a refined version of vir anyway, meaning an Austrian person rather than just a person). Categoria:Austriaci civiles? Harrissimo 19:29, 14 Februarii 2008 (UTC).
replies: text: :::Temporibus antiquis tales viros in re publica versatos dicere solebant. Unde evenit haec categoriae inscriptio: Homines in re publica versati Austriaci vel Austriaca. --Irenaeus 20:53, 14 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::To match our usual style, I think that this category should now move to :Categoria:Politicorum periti Austriae. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:18, 17 Decembris 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  contenta ex pagina ''Disputatio Categoriae:Politicorum periti Austriaci''
Disputatio Vicipaediae:Quid est Taberna?

message: This section might not be clear; I hope you understand my intentions anyway. In case you do, please clearify my words. ;-)
We should have more information and recommendations in the Vicipaedia namespace. Many results of discussions are just on the Taberna page. These results should be moved to appropriate pages in the Vicipaedia namespace, since it is easier to reference a page than a discussion in the Taberna which even might have been archived.
So, if you think a discussion in the Taberna should be kept for the future, please copy/move it to a page in the Vicipaedia namespace.
Event this section should get a page of it's own in the Vicipaedia namespace. ;-) — Commentationem pristinam non subscriptam usor Rafaelgarcia (disputatio • conlationes) die 14 Februarii 2008‎, hora 14:41 scripsit.
thread_title: Moving results to the Vicipaedia namespace ''(copied from page "Quid et Taberna")''
Disputatio:Coffeum

message: Cafea? My sources say coffeum... Andrew?--Ioscius (disp) 20:28, 19 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Langenscheidt: Coffea, potus Arabicum, cafeum. --Alex1011 20:45, 19 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ok, seems on further investigation there are many variations... I see cafaeum, coffeum, cofeum, etc. Caffeine, though, is definitely coffeinum...--Ioscius (disp) 21:01, 19 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Incipit res Cafea [sic]: "Caffea [sic] est potus et Coffea [sic] planta est." Oh? IacobusAmor 03:23, 20 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Im working on it... --Ioscius (disp) 04:57, 20 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: nomen

message: Critice, si nexum Coffeinum ad Caffeina hic mutas, fortasse te oportet eundem nexum in commentario Thea mutare. IacobusAmor 04:23, 14 Maii 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mea quidem sententia, non video rationem mutandi. Et coffeinum et caffeina attestantur. --Ioscius (disp) 14:57, 14 Maii 2009 (UTC)

text: Et caffeinum...--Ioscius (disp) 15:08, 14 Maii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nexus
Disputatio:Romanae pugnae

message: Haec pagina scriptatur etiam in "Italiano", "Portugues" et "English". Possuntne ponere nexi, qui ad alias linguas ducunt?
thread_title:  Aliae linguae 

message: Quid vos, o sodalis, censetis hac de pagina plane rubricata nomina pugnarum sine testimoniis continentis? --Bavarese (disputatio) 19:18, 13 Februarii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Nexus rubros non nimis timeamus, nam multae paginae de rebus gravibus nondum creatae sunt. Sed fortasse non omnes haec necessariae aut recte positae sunt. Si paginam capessere vis, quaeso, fac quod bonum tibi videtur. Mea sententia, saltem paginas harum categoriarum includere debemus: :Categoria:Proelia Romanorum et :Categoria:Proelia Caesaris. Lesgles (disputatio) 00:52, 14 Februarii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  pagina paene totaliter rubrificata
Disputatio:Welthauptstadt Germania

message: Melius: "Urbs Germania Caput Mundi  (Theodisce: Welthauptstadt Germania) nomen futurum. . . ." ? IacobusAmor 00:57, 21 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Dependet de nostra methodo respectu attestationis nominum. Welthauptstadt non habet nomen Latinum attestatum. Fortasse quaeramus quid aliae linguae faciant in primis Romanicae. Hoc in casu Hungarica lingua habet település et Russica Главни град света Германија. --Alex1011 08:50, 21 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Anglice: World Capital Germania (http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:M7C9Ve9Q58IJ:www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1594327,00.html+germania+capital+world&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&ie=UTF-8) and Germania, capital of the World, fortasse recte Germania, Capital of the World (http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:qRJKnqSGhlcJ:www.hotelshotelshotels.co.uk/germany/berlin-info.html+germania+capital+world&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=20&gl=us&ie=UTF-8). IacobusAmor 11:59, 21 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Commentarii nomen
Disputatio:Lingua Islandica

message: Shouldn't this be called "lingua islandica"? --BiT 03:58, 21 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Aio, it should be. IacobusAmor 04:55, 21 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ita vero, I agree. --Girdi 18:27, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Commentarii nomen
Disputatio:Petrus Aretinus

message: Unde hoc RR in Arretium et Arretinus? IacobusAmor 12:04, 21 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In nomine Latino urbis, -rr- est orthographia vera et classica. Vide e.g. :en:Arezzo. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:24, 21 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Quod sine fonte ait: "Arezzo (Latin Arretium) is an old city in central Italy." Immo etiam secundum Cassell's Latin Dictionary, nomen est solum Ārētĭum. IacobusAmor 12:35, 21 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Gratias ago. Nunc video et -r- orthographiam veram et classicam esse! Fontes addo in paginam urbis. De nomine huius scriptoris, nescio. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:41, 21 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Urbis nomen
Disputatio:Decimus Iunius Brutus Albinus

message: Fortasse titulus huius articuli mutandus sit in "Decimus Iunius Brutus Albinus". Ita melius a ceteris Decimis Juniis Brutis discernatur : multi enim sunt. Tunc pagina discretiva quoque mutanda erit. Nexus nondum multi sunt : corrigere eos potero ego si vobis placet... Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 14:02, 22 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Recte dicis, paginam ad Decimus Iunius Brutus Albinus movere oportet. --UV 23:17, 22 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  movenda
Disputatio:Empere-Rura

message: Quid est magister civium? IacobusAmor 01:57, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Magister civium

message: Quid est "Dr."? medicus? doctor philosophiae? IacobusAmor 01:57, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dr.
Disputatio:Star Trek

message: Quamodo dicitur "Vulcan?" Legi orthographiam "Vulcen" huic paginae, sed orthographiam "Vulkan" paginae Viatoris. -- Korora. 128.104.49.232 16:36, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Rectius Volcan-? Si planeta est Volcanus vel Volcania, indigena fortasse est Volcanus, -i vel Volcanalis, -is. ¶ Nomen absurdum Stelliter communem sensum laedit, no? IacobusAmor 17:52, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ita est; vide Disputatio:Stelliter: Nova Generatio : mea sententia nomen Iter Stellare melius oportet.   --Rafaelgarcia 18:29, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen ''Vulcan''

message: We do not normally translate titles, why is this Iter Stellare and not Star Trek? Same for the subpages Iter Stellare:Proxima Aetas and Iter Stellare: Navigator. Pantocrator 01:17, 30 Novembris 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree: unless there is some already published source for "Iter Stellare" we should move to Star Trek. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:10, 1 Decembris 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titulus
Disputatio:Snakes on a Plane

message: Copied from Disputatio Usoris:128.104.50.214 by Rolandus 17:40, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
Serpentes Avioni, what's the English title? Thanks--Massimo Macconi 17:28, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
 "Snakes on a Plane" est. -- Korora 128.104.50.214 17:30, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: English title
Disputatio:Curtis Naonis

message: Traxi nomen ab Italiano libro, qui urbis nominis originem explicat. Nomen est iustus, este securi! --Vercassivellaunus 19:05, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Bene - inscribe hunc librum paginamque inter Giovanni Rossi, L'origine de Cordenons, Milano 1986, ISBN 123456789, p. 56. --UV 22:52, 23 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :... and this reference will appear at the postion of the  tag. You'll find more information on page Vicipaedia:Fons. --Rolandus 10:56, 24 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fontes
Disputatio:Upington

message: Nisi habemus fontem pro Upingtonpolis, nomen mi apparet erroneum quia ton et polis eundem sensum habent.
Unless we have a source for Upingtonpolis, the name seems wrong to me because "ton" and "polis" have the same meaning. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:10, 24 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it means "Upington City." IacobusAmor 13:17, 24 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Maybe it does. But do we have a source for it? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:22, 24 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::We always have Upingtonia (declined by botanists ) to fall back on. The worst thing is that the IP has made a myriad of these pages and it's gonna take a lot of time to move them all. What sane person writes Kimberleypolis‎!? Harrissimo 13:53, 24 Februarii 2008 (UTC).
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Linguae Afro-Asiaticae

message: I haven't checked the names in this list -- I just copied it across from the old Linguae mundi page. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:38, 25 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The names have moved away again now, to the pages for individual families within Afroasiatic. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:42, 26 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomina
Disputatio:Dieta foederalis Germaniae

message: Nonne Diaeta? Harrissimo 22:32, 25 Februarii 2008 (UTC).
replies: text: Non a Dies (= day) - Bundestag - Tag = day

text: I prefer the translation conventus foederalis

text: look at Parlamentum  Martinvoll 22:43, 25 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :"diaeta" would be better, but in late Latin ae was often written as e. --Alex1011 20:49, 27 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Hodie iam Dieta, sed non melius Diaeta? vel etiam conventus foederalis, ut supra dicitur? Praeterea, ubi in litteris scriptis est fons nominis? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 11:04, 10 Maii 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Dieta or diaeta, I wouldn’t really know, but as I like coherence, I have to note that we already have Diaeta Imperii Germanici. I wouldn’t change to conventus however, because the Reichstag of the Holy Roman Empire was already called dieta or diaeta imperii, as was the Parliament of Bismarck’s empire. So, if Reichstag is Di(a)eta Imperii, then Bundestag should logically be Di(a)eta foederalis. By the way, you could argue for Diaeta foederalis Germanica instead of Diaeta foederalis Germaniae, as it is Deutscher Bundestag and not Bundestag Deutschlands. Sigur (disputatio) 17:51, 10 Maii 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: De lemmate
Disputatio:Societas Iesu

message: Non oportet hanc paginam movere ad Societas Iesu ?--Rafaelgarcia 14:44, 26 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Credo hanc paginam movendam esse ad Societas Iesu, sed egomet non possum eam movere. Magistratus necessarius est.--Rafaelgarcia 23:00, 4 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: : Paginam movi. --UV 00:56, 5 Martii 2008 (UTC)

message: Rajmaan (disputatio) 04:14, 31 Decembris 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, extracted to appropriate pages, therefore now hidden above. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:11, 31 Decembris 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historia Societatis Iesu
Disputatio:Landica

message: I made the page because (I think) the classical Latin name needs some explanation and justification on its own terms -- it isn't in most dictionaries, and, as you see, Cicero's mention of it (the only occurrence in a literary text) is quite indirect. Unless you were looking for it, you wouldn't see it (hence I formatted it bold). On en:wiki, a user had asked for evidence that this word landica existed at all, and that was what made me write the page originally.
Clitoris being the ordinary anatomical term now, I think the citation from Realdus Columbus really belongs at clitoris rather than here. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:01, 26 Februarii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Perhaps not contribuenda?
Disputatio:Ioha (Bruttium)

message: Iovius is better than Jovius. But I am not sure we really have a source for this. The Italian source cited says that the name Gioia "may derive from the Latin name Jovius", as indeed it may. It doesn't say that that was ever the Latin name of the place. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:08, 1 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is always the Plinian Orestis Portus which several sources  recognise as Gioja Tauro. Harrissimo 13:47, 1 Martii 2008 (UTC).
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:WHU

message: ? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:06, 6 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sententia "Excellence in Management Education" est. Translationem nescio. --217.110.154.54 16:44, 6 Martii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ardor. Homi. Munia
Disputatio:Sequana et Matrona

message: La Marne = Matrona donc la Seine et Marne = Sequana et Matrona--Marc mage 16:00, 7 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: S.t.p., Marce, cita fontem orthographiae tuae. Gratias! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:11, 7 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Equidem cum Marco mago consentio! Apud Iulium Caesarem iam legimus (BG 1.1.2): 'Gallos ab Aquitanis Garumna flumen, a Belgis Matrona et Sequana diuidit.' Hofmannus quoque cum Caesare consentit. Graesse tamen Maternam praefert, cuius fontem antiquum nescio; videtur esse nomen Latinum Medii Aevi. De fontibus nominis nunc vide quae in pagina de Matrona scripta addidi. --Fabullus 09:45, 6 Maii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Gratias ago ambobus! Movi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:47, 6 Maii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: De nomine
Disputatio:Thomas Rohn

message: There was the question, whether that article is a joke etc. --Rolandus 22:43, 7 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: (See also Disputatio_Usoris:Ranthrock#Tom_R and Disputatio_Usoris:Rolandus#Tom_R and Disputatio_Usoris:Andrew_Dalby#Tom_R)
Clearly it's not a joke: my mistake. Now that we have it under his real name, we ought to add, if possible, his date of birth; also a link to a site (e.g. the school website) confirming that he's a teacher there. Given this, the article should stay, I think. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:40, 8 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :I agree. I've added a reference to show he is a teacher at Hinsdale. I'm looking for other stuff. Harrissimo 14:29, 8 Martii 2008 (UTC).
thread_title: Joke?
Disputatio:Batman

message: Murcielagus, needless to say, is not a Latin word. Vir Vespertilio isn't great either, because Vespertilio isn't an adjective (it could be an appositive, but then it seems to indicate that this man in a bat in a much more literal sense. Like Manbat or something.) --Iustinus 14:32, 8 Martii 2008 (UTC)
Homo Vespertilionis? —71.141.116.76 07:39, 7 Martii 2012 (UTC)
what do you think about: "Vir Microchiropterae"?? Sounds bad but it could work...?
thread_title: Name
Disputatio:Kazachstania

message: I realise that Casachia was a real place situated by the Caspian Sea, but no source explicitly calls it Kazakhstan. According to Russo-Latin translitteration at VP:TNP, if no source is found, should this become Casachstan? (No tʃ problems here, if a certain Mr Amor is watching ;) ) Harrissimo 16:09, 8 Martii 2008 (UTC).
Cazachia Corporis scriptorum historiae Byzantinae inter regiones Caucasicas (ut Alania et Abasgia) est, ergo non est nomen Kazachstaniae. -- Alexander Geraščenko (disputatio) 11:42, 8 Maii 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Insuper fons, quo nomen "Cazachia" in pagina nostra olim corroboratum erat, id nomen non iam monstrat. Igitur "Cazachia" e sententia prima removi: OK? Nunc autem oportet nomen "Cas/zachia" per omnem paginam delere et "Kazachstania" inserere. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:21, 8 Maii 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ergo in nominibus categoriarum "Casachia" etiam a "Kazachstania" supponenda est. Verbum "Kazachia" ut nomen huius terrae Asiae Mediae in Ephemeride Varsoviensi tamen inveni (, , ). Praeterea, adiectiva "kazachica" ("R. S. S. Kazachica: in jugo Zailijskij-Alatau" , "Barbotella grossocostata kazachica Movlazade 1967" , "Merista kazachica Nilova 1966" ), "kasachica" ("Tinea kasachica Gaedike 2006" ) et "kazachstanica/kazachstanicus" ("Alucita kazachstanica", "Nalassus (Helopocerodes) kazachstanicus G.Medv., 1964" ) in usu sunt. -- Alexander Geraščenko (disputatio) 14:16, 8 Maii 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: ::De categoriis consentio, Alexander, sed oportet antea de novo nomine statuere! Laete Kazachia accipere possum -- brevitatem amo. Quid dicunt alii? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:24, 8 Maii 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Nomen "Kazachia" mihi etiam placet, sed donec divulgatum videtur. In pagina ipsa "Cazachiam" in "Kazachstaniam" atque "casachicam" ad "kazachicam" mutavi. Categoria tamen "Casachia" mansit. -- Alexander Geraščenko (disputatio) 14:56, 8 Maii 2013 (UTC)

message: Habemusne fontes pro nominibus urbium (Leucocolonopolis, etc.)? Aliter oporteat nominibus Kazachicis translitteratis uti. Lesgles (disputatio) 14:02, 10 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Geographus noster anonymus, linguae Graecae ut videtur amator, interdum talia nomina fingit (cf. etiam Cambosia). Nisi fontes reperiuntur, oportet mutare. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:21, 10 Decembris 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomina urbium 

message: wikt:Casachia. --37.11.121.244 21:44, 5 Octobris 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casachia?
Disputatio Formulae:Cons-trans

message: No doubt this catches the eye. I fear, however, it might also hurt some people's eyes a tad. Maybe someone could rebalance it towards a more aesthetically pleasing, but still sufficiently conspicuous design, with a few little flags, some colour change, a nicer font ... you know what I mean?--Ceylon 17:19, 8 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Placet? Harrissimo 23:21, 8 Martii 2008 (UTC).
replies: text: :Thanks, much nicer. My browser displays it as two lines each - maybe if the font were a point or two smaller it would all fit into one line.--Ceylon 23:24, 8 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Is it working now? Harrissimo 23:29, 8 Martii 2008 (UTC).
replies: text: :::Optime. --Ceylon 23:31, 8 Martii 2008 (UTC)

message: I've added both of these because we now have a Spanish translation of a consilium page and I put Italian in for two reasons: 1. Learning Latin is widespread in Italian grammar schools so I guess there are a lot if Italians who know some Latin 2. Having just three looks horrible. Please say if you feel I've made the wrong choices. Harrissimo 20:38, 16 Martii 2008 (UTC).
replies: text: We shouldn't have too many languages because of the translation work involved. The reason why I thought English and German were a good choice - beside the fact that they are the two largest wikipedias - is that I noticed that these are the two languages most used on the talk pages here and that in especially Eastern Europe many people would be more likely to know German than English. If we go beyond those two, it gets difficult: Why Italian and not French? Wouldn't Italians and Spaniards be more likely to grasp the gist of the original Latin pages? What about Russian? After all, this is the Latin Vicipaedia, so I would favour limiting translations into the vernaculars as far as possible.--Ceylon 20:56, 16 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Yes. But where does that leave Vicipaedia:A est B/es? Shall we have translations (in any language other than en or de) as optional under a ==Vide etiam==? Harrissimo 20:59, 16 Martii 2008 (UTC).

text: It's a difficult choice, but yes I think that might be the best idea at the moment.--Ceylon 21:06, 16 Martii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spanish & Italian
Disputatio:Ludificatio Gylviana

message: According to the translation I have, Gylfaginning means "the tricking of Gylfi" rather than hallucination or vision. En:wiki seems to say the same. Is that correct? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:01, 9 Martii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Versio tituli

message: That is in fact correct. According to Zoega "ginning" is a deception, a befooling, from ginna "to dupe, fool one", though it has been always translated as the Vision or Hallucination, but in fact is literally "the fooling of Gylfi". I will correct this right away, thanks for the heads up!--Didacus 06:54, 11 Maii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Versio tituli
Disputatio:Aemilius Durkheim

message: "wrote some very heavy books" -- this may be true, but I have a feeling we use "gravis" in the metaphorical sense a bit more freely than our classical models. Am I wrong? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:18, 12 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Gravis = 'important, influential'. I suppose potens would work. IacobusAmor 10:35, 12 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :I didn't make a positive suggestion, did I? I can see a political crisis being gravis, or maybe a politician (Gordon Brown may possibly be gravis; Tony Blair wasn't); Livy once used gravis of a city, but it surely wouldn't be a normal way to describe a city. The word seems usually to go together with other words like severus with a disturbing or crisis-ridden or down-in-the-mouth connotation. If somebody told me a book was gravis, I think I would require a stiff drink before I started reading it. Maybe this would be true of Durkheim's books anyway. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:16, 12 Martii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::You've hit the nail on the head: drinks are in order! Durkheim's writings are among the dullest weighty works I've read. Of course that was a long time ago, when, a callow stripling, I was more interested in other things, and Durkheim's sociology is indubitably full of the famous French precision, and it was puissant enough to have brought into existence an entire academic field, so it must have something to it, but I don't recall finding much imagination in it. Part of its problem is that it was produced before the development of modern statistics. IacobusAmor 13:26, 12 Martii 2008 (UTC)

text: :I can't see a book being potens, either, though a politician might be. George Bush is certainly potens, but I don't see him as gravis. For important and influential, as describing a book or a political movement, I think I would suggest "magni momenti". Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:16, 12 Martii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gravis