Disputatio:Lingua Ojibwayensis

message: Nonne declinandi causa melior sit forma "Lingua Ojibwa"? Neander (disputatio) 19:36, 27 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Mm, ita, nomen quoddam quo Latine uterer invenire in animo habebam, sed non nunc. Commentatio Anglica e qua textum converto ita mirum in modum et nomine Ojibwe et Ojibwa diversis in locis utitur, ut nesciam an quaedam inter verba differentia sit, neque sat de puncto illo cognovi quam ut affirmanter agendi modum constituam. Plura mihi legenda atque discenda sunt. Hoc autem temporis puncto id me sentire scio, quod verbo linguae Latinae tam alieno quam ojibwa quasi declinabili uti aliquantum inconcinnum mihi videtur. Est etiam verbum Anishinaabemowin, quod fortasse melius sit, namque illo verbo gens Ojibwe ad linguam suam nominandam utitur. Ad fontes! Adiectivum q.e. Anishinaabemowinus facile fingeretur, cui est saltem casus plus minus Latinus (-inus). Sed re vera incertissimus sum, nomenque non necesse est inveniatur declinabile, cum verbum "lingua" iam declinandi causa habeamus. ¶ Cum te alloquar ... quo modo vocabulum sicut "northwestern" Latine redderes? Mattie (disputatio) 04:24, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :Lingua Ojibwica interim haud malum mihi videatur. Mattie (disputatio) 07:48, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Si quis ante nos "Ojibwica" scripsit, ita sit. An eam formam fingere suades? Abnuo. Ubi commentationem de lingua in "-ica" nominatam apud nos repperi, sine fonte huius nominis, semper movi! Potius cum te (supra) consentio: "nomen ... non necesse est inveniatur declinabile, cum verbum "lingua" iam declinandi causa habeamus." Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:27, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Si series illa dialectorum certa similitudine familiari conexarum Anglice modo "Ojibwe" modo "Ojibwa" modo "Ojibway" appellatur, Hispanice autem "Ojibwa", demiror, cui morigeremur formam q.e. Ojibwa vitando declinabilem et favendo formae q.e. Ojibwe indeclinabili. De "lingua O" repetenda paulum dubito, nam ita tenor textús longioris depravari videtur. Neander (disputatio) 12:09, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Anglice, nos Chippewa saepe legimus. Vide :en:Chippewa_(disambiguation). IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:42, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::De Chippewa abnuo: solum in Civitatibus Foederatis usui est, ad dialectum quandam nominandam. Vicipaediae Anglicae est enim symbola "Lingua Chippewa" appellata. ¶ Andrew, non lemmatis, sed textus ipsius causa nomen ad facilius scribendum fingere volo. Notam adderem ut verbum illud non attestari patefieret. ¶ Quod de Ojibwa dicas, intellego, Neander, sed an vere declinabile est? Quo nomine si utamur, tunc talia qualia "populus Ojibwus" quoque dicere possimus, quod est cur "Ojibwicum" ("lingua Ojibwica," "populus Ojibwicus"), orthographiam mea sententia paulo insolitiorem, praeoptem. Sed iterum, adhuc incertus sum neque valenter de his rebus sentio. Mattie (disputatio) 16:59, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::::Ups, "orthographiam mea sententia paulo minus insolitam" mihi volebam! Mattie (disputatio) 23:30, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)

text: :::::Super Hispanici non solum "Ojibwa" dicunt: "ojibwa" in symbola vicies quater repperi, "ojibwe" autem vicies ter. Idem atque Anglice loquentes facere videntur, diversis dialectis aliter appellatis. Mattie (disputatio) 17:06, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::Quod ad phoneticam spectat, quia 'Zimbabwe' = Zimbabua, nonne 'Ojibwe' = Osibua vel Otsibua ? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:38, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::: De argumento ad pronuntiationem pertinenti dubito. In nominibus "barbaris" pronuntiandis, cuius normae phoneticae obsequendum sit? Ego mea vernacula usus (API) ['ojibwa] dico. Mihi quidem recte sonat, licet a norma Anglica abhorreat. At facile concedo Zimbabuam exemplum observabile esse. Si scribendi mores auctorum antiquorum respicimus, certe (ni fallor) ZIMBABVA scripsissent, et nomen q.e. Ottawa, OTTAVA. Ut videtur, varietas v / u magis orthographiae mediaevali quam pronuntiationi antiquae attribuenda est. Sed de "Ojibwe" ad modum Romanum scribenda taceo, nam scientia fundamentali ad Ojibwos [sic!] pertinenti careo. ¶ Mattie, velim scire, cur tibi insolens videatur adiectivum Ojibwus, -a, -um. Nonne aliquatenus similia sunt Sanscitus,-a,-um et Batavus,-a,-um? Neander (disputatio) 23:16, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::::Adiectivum tuum non iam mihi displicet. Sententia prima mea in eo consistebat, quod illud -ic- quod addere volebam transgressionem a lingua Latinae alienissima ad casum Latinum leniebat, ut sic dicam. Sed mentem meam mutavi. Mattie (disputatio) 23:45, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)

text: Apud biologos Objiwayensis videtur.  >:)  —Mucius Tever (disputatio) 01:46, 30 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :Macte, Muci! Mattie (disputatio) 05:13, 31 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen

message: :¶ De "northwestern" latine reddendo ipse quoque paene desperavi. Sed in symbola quadam caurino usus sum adiectivo a nomine venti (caurus) deducto. Hoc aeque expeditum mihi videtur ac borius/borealis aut eurous a ventorum nominibus (q.s. boreas, eurus) derivata. Neander (disputatio) 12:09, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :Apud Cassell's: 'northwest' = inter septentriones et occasum solis spectans. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:42, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :: Ita quidem, sed insolenti longitudine parum expeditum videtur. Ceterum, apud Vilborg boreo-occidentalis legitur. Neander (disputatio) 13:24, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Noster geographus sine nomine ut videtur nomina substantivum boreoccidens (in, e.g., Africa Australis) et adiectivum boreoccidentalis (in, e.g., Lingua Abasca) commendat. Fortasse ei est fons verus. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:49, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  NW 

message: Aliis nexibus externis non conversis, aliis fortasse non omnino necessariis, totam partem rescripsi. Ecce nexus remoti; si quis aliquos restituere velit, quaeso, restitue! Lesgles (disputatio) 21:07, 26 Februarii 2015 (UTC)
* A theoretical and practical grammar of the Otchipwe language a Frederico Baraga scriptus
* Noongwa e-Anishinaabemjig: People Who Speak Anishinaabemowin Today — apud University of Michigan
* Ojibwe Language Society
* Ojibwe Language Group
* Language Museum report for Ojibwe
* Aboriginal Languages of Canada — de populis Ojibwayensiter loquentibus
* Language Geek Page on Ojibwe — Syllabary typi et 
* Linguae Ojibwayensis Toponyma
* Niizh Ikwewag — Novella Ojibwayensiter scripta, ab Earl Nyholm in primis dicta, professor emeritus linguae Ojibwayensis apud Bemidji State University.
* Symbolum Ethnologue de Ojibwayensi
* Native Languages: A Support Document for the Teaching of Language Patterns, Ojibwe and Cree
* Native Languages, pagina de Ojibwayensi
* Letter Men: Brothers Fight for Ojibwe Language, a story broadcast on Fresh Air, a National Public Radio broadcast show, interviewing Anton and David Treuer.
* Language and Meaning — An Ojibwe Story, a story broadcast on Speaking of Faith, a National Public Radio broadcast show.
* Bemaadizing: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Indigenous Life (An online journal)
* Comprehensive list of learning resources for Ojibwe prepared for the SSILA by Dr. Rand Valentine
* Gidakiiminaan (Our Earth) wall-map with Ojibwe Geographic Place Names in the 1837 Ceded Territories of Minnesota and Wisconsin, the 1842 Ceded Territories of Wisconsin and Michigan and the 1836 Ceded Territory of the Michigan Upper Peninsula, issued by the Great Lakes Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission.
;Grammatica et praecepta
*Comparative Ojibwe Swadesh vocabulary list of basic words (from Wiktionary's Swadesh-list appendix)
* Rand Valentine's introduction to Ojibwe
* Grammar, lessons, and dictionaries — Ojibwe site by "Weshki-ayaad"
* Gikendandaa Ojibwemowin — Ojibwe lesson site by James Starkey (Mindjime)
* Native Languages: A Support Document for the Teaching of Language Patters — basic language patterns for Ojibwe (Manitoulin Ojibwe/Ottawa "CO" and Lac Seul Ojibwe "WO") and Cree (Swampy Cree "SC").
* Baraga, Frederic (Bishop) (1878). A Theoretical and Practical Grammar of the Otchipwe Language for the Use of Missionaries and Other Persons Living Among the Indians.
* Ojibwe numerals
* "Ojibwe iPad app brings language to world" in Wawatay News Online.
;Dictionaria et indixes vocabulorum
* Ojibwe People's Dictionary — Online Ojibwe-English dictionary with 8,000+ words, 60,000 audio clips by Ojibwe elders from Minnesota and Ontario, and related  images/documents.
* Aaniin Ekidong... (How Do You Say...): Ojibwe Vocabulary Project — Math and science terms for the Southwestern (Wisconsin, Leech Lake and Red Lake) and Minnesota Border Chippewa dialect of the Ojibwe language.
* Our Languages: Nakawē (Saskatchewan Indian Cultural Centre)
* Anishinaabe-Ikidowinan (Ojibwe) Dictionary — Courtesy of the Kwayaciiwin Education Resource Centre. Covers Berens River and English River dialects of Northwestern Ojibwe
* Freelang Ojibwe Dictionary — Freeware off-line dictionary for Windows-based systems (with instructions on how to load on a Macintosh), updated with additional entries every 6–10 weeks. On-line searches are also available.
* Kees van Kolmeschate: My Ojibwe Documents — Assorted digital Ojibwe-related documents, including the electronic version of the 1878 Baraga Dictionary.
* Baraga, Frederic (Bishop). Dictionary of the Otchipwe Language, Explained in English.
** Part I: English-Otchipwe and Part II: Otchipwe-English in the 1853 edition at Wisconsin Historical Society
** Part I: English-Otchipwe in the 1878 edition and Part II: Otchipwe-English in the 1880 edition in Google Books
thread_title:  De nexibus externis