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Disputatio:Controversia de depravatis Machometi imaginibus

message: Pagina et pagina disputationis "Jyllands-Posten Muhammad Illustratiorum Controversiae" motata est ad "Jyllands-Posten ob illustrationes Mochameti (Muhammedi) controversia" 18:16, 5 Februarii 2006.  Fortasse movenda est iterum.

message: I wanted to know what "in diurno" means? Published each day?  Diurnal? If so is there something to confirm that? Alexanderr 17:01, 5 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is 2000+ years of latin to confirm it, I don't know where you'd like me to begin...  Roughly equivalent to a daily newspaper in this sense, or journal.--Ioshus Rocchio 17:38, 5 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Sorry, I wasn't clear. My first question was if "in diurno" meant published daily, and if it does mean that is there any source stating that each of the twelve comics were published seperately in sucession day after day. Alexanderr 18:28, 5 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Diurnus is a noun, or at least an adjective so heavily and oft substantized that it has come to mean 'a daily', or at least a thing that is daily.  To my knowledge, Jyllands-Posten is a daily publication, and therefore diurnus works fine, for it, in my opinion.--Ioshus Rocchio 19:42, 5 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Diurno

message: I based the title along with the caption under the picture on the root word "Illustratio" which was provided by my latin dictionary. This should be changed if we are using "Illustration" Alexanderr 17:03, 5 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no such latin word as illustration.  Illustrationum is gen plural.--Ioshus Rocchio 17:35, 5 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :On Mochameti (Muhammedi): Can't we just decide one? Harrissimo 22:30, 29 Februarii 2008 (UTC).
replies: text: ::Our current choice as title for the biography is Machometus. Neither of the two spellings above is mentioned in the biography at present, and neither of them corresponds to the scientific transliteration.

text: ::Machometus is a historic Latin form, not very near the scientific transliteration. But we might as well be consistent, so, unless an Arabist wants to urge us to change our minds, I guess we should adjust the title of this page, deleting Mochameti (Muhammedi) and inserting Machometi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:25, 1 Martii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title
Disputatio:Agricultura

message: Suntne boves, gallinae, oves animalia re vera producentur ab agricultura?  Nescio latinitatem, ac anglice agricultura et "husbandry" res dissimiles sunt.--Ioshus Rocchio 13:12, 6 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mutavi "agronomia est scientia quae terris colendis agricultionique studet, ars scientiaque de animalibus creandis. " ad "agronomia est ars scientiaque quae terris colendis studet, agricultio autem animalibus creandis." quia non credo agronomia m(:en:agronomy = science of fields and growing plants) includere agricultionem (:en:animal husbandry), quamquam ambae includuntur in agricultura.--Rafaelgarcia 16:53, 31 Decembris 2009 (UTC)

message: De latinitate horum nominum quero, quia exemplum "agri cultura" suadet mihi "apis cultura", "silvae cultura" et "piscis cultura", sed paene ubique invenio formas "apicultura", "silvicultura" et "piscicultura" ubi evidenter formula "thema+i+cultura" usurpatur.--Rafaelgarcia 17:12, 31 Decembris 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Haec nomina fortasse sunt "back-formations," ex nominibus Francicis Anglicisque apiculture, silviculture, pisciculture facta. + Secundum Stearn, sylvicola [sic] est planta quae silvas habitat. IacobusAmor 17:31, 31 Decembris 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apicultura, silvicultura, piscicultura?
Disputatio Vicipaediae:Machinationem monstrat

message: Ab ea significan "plot spoiler?"--Ioshus Rocchio 00:07, 18 Maii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oy vey, yeah that's what's meant here. "It displays the plot." Unfortunately the plot of a book is not the plot of an ambitious machiavellian politician. The latter is machinatio the former is argumentum. I need to find the page where I manually added a spoiler warnging. It was somethign like "Cave, haec pars secreta argumenti profanat" but I don't rememeber exactly what it was. I thought about it a good deal first though. --Iustinus 05:04, 3 Iunii 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :I saw your warning five days ago. Now, where? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 07:50, 3 Iunii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  machinatio
Disputatio:Aulus Atilius A.f. Calatinus

message: English WP:
* :en:Aulus Atilius Calatinus is redirected to :en:Aulus Atilius Caiatinus
German WP:
* :de:Aulus Atilius Caiatinus = son of :de:Aulus Atilius Calatinus
* both articles say the person had been accused of betraying the city of Sora in the Samnite Wars
What is correct?
--Roland2 20:17, 7 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The question is: Are we speaking of father and son or of one person? --Rolandus 15:46, 25 Martii 2007 (UTC)
There are really two, father and son. The father betrayed Sora in 315 or 306. The son was consul 258 and was the more notable of the two. Der kleine Pauly prefers the form Calatinus (for both) but admits that Caiatinus also occurs. It is silly to use a different spelling for father and son (as de: does). A.f. is correct for the son, so if we want an article for his father we should use the same name without A.f. That's what I think ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:23, 25 Martii 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: How many persons?
Disputatio:Novum Eboracum (urbs)

message: Maybe this would work? If someone wanted to incorperate it into the article. Alexanderr 01:28, 10 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Imago

message: In my view urbs Novi Eboraci would be more correct. The Romans didn't say urbs Roma but urbs Romae (genitive) and so on. Alex1011 08:22, 18 Maii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, they said Urbs Roma. It's an appositon, like river Thames--2514 14:11, 18 Maii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Is Eborac what the Romans called the city of York way back when? Also, why is the discussion here not in Latin!
replies: text: ::Vide: Fontes nominum locorum --Alex1011 08:07, 22 Novembris 2006 (UTC)

text: Fontem habemus pro "Urbs Novum Eboracum"? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:57, 7 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: : Vide sigullum urbis: Civitas Novi Eboraci quasi nomen latinum officiale est. --W-j-s 20:48, 25 Octobris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ::A, sed sigullum dicit "Sigullum Civitatis Novi Eboraci", "sigillum + gen." Ergo nomen veri similiter "civitas Novum Eboracum" legeri debet, sicut Latinitas poscit. Lesgles (disputatio) 19:38, 5 Aprilis 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: titulus

message: Re "↑ Carolus Egger, Sermo Latinus Hodiernus: Acta Diurna (1986), pp. 19" + "↑ Allen J. Coombes, Dictionary of Plant Names, pp. 75" + 
"↑ Carolus Egger, Sermo Latinus Hodiernus: Acta Diurna (1986), pp. 50"—sed "pp." plus quam unam paginam indicat. IacobusAmor 01:53, 21 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Gratias ago. Mutantur nunc. Harrissimo 18:02, 21 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC).
thread_title: pp.

message: : Commenta de "Staten Insula" ad hanc paginam removi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:06, 20 Iunii 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  De Insula nomine 'Staten' 

message: At some point we will have to think hard about whom, if anyone, to include here, or else the section could get quite large (cf. :en:List of people from New York City). Lesgles (disputatio) 19:26, 5 Aprilis 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homines praeclari
Disputatio:Saltatio

message: What is the correct title for this article? (Vicipaedia:Articuli quos omnes Vicipaediae habeant says Saltare) --Roland2 18:44, 10 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
I would use Saltatio in the references to Dancing. Saltatio in Latin (as "Dança" in Portuguese) is both the noun "dancing" and the term used to refer to the act of "dancing". In my opinion Saltare is an undue contagio from the English -ing form "dancing", which could (but in this case I believe should not) be translated by the Latin infinitive Saltare. As far as I know (and the dictionaries I have attest), salto is just the verb and Latin writers only use the noun form.  D Ambulans 19:30, 10 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I Agree that Saltatio is better, but I'm not sure I buy your reasoning. Afterall, many wikipedias list verb-based entries under the infinitive. --Iustinus 23:48, 10 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
Credo verbum "saltus" melius esse quam saltatio. --Marc mage 22:13, 10 Februarii 2006 (UTC)

text: Immo saltus spectat ad verbum saliendi potius quam saltandi. --Iustinus 23:48, 10 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
**As in Portuguese, where we still use "salto", saltus is "a jump" and many other things, whereas saltatio, -onis means "dancing" (Qv. Cic. Brutus, 225.)D Ambulans 01:53, 11 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Re vera, saltus significat oscillationem aut spicam in aequationibus mathmaticis.  Saltus crescuit significare dance in linguis germanicis, ac in lingua pura, saltatio praelatum est.--Ioshus Rocchio 03:08, 11 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Saltatio vs Saltare

message: Aliquid miri esse imagini tertiae puto, nam milites me videre confiteor, non lusores neque pediludii spectatores (nisi forte vestitu militari personati sunt). --Neander 23:13, 29 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Gratias tibi. Fortasse absurde victory dance ad tripudium verti. Nescio tamen quomodo "cheerleader" ad Latinam vertere. Amabo te si potes commentarium ameliorare. --Rafaelgarcia 00:15, 30 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imago tertia
Disputatio:Iosephus Stalin

message: Again with the numbers.--Ioshus Rocchio 15:22, 18 Februarii 2006 (UTC)

message: (answer to a change done by Kmaster)
ante paginam mutare disputationem facere debetur, quamquam difficilis est dicere Stalin tyrannum non fuisse. Vide etiam Vicipaediam Anglicam: Stalin rose to become the leader of the Soviet Union, which he ruled as a dictator.
Quod ad crudelitatem suam pertinet, sententia a te deleta simpliciter opinionem multorum hominum refert, non iudicium proprium--Helveticus montanus 09:29, 23 Septembris 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  tyrannus aut rector?
Disputatio:Georgia

message: I think we should move this page to Gerogia_Europa, and have straight Georgia lead to a disambiguation page.  The state, for instance, is Georgia_USA.--Ioshus Rocchio 20:24, 20 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
Maybe Georgia (Europa) and Georgia (USA) or Georgia, Europa and Georgia, USA? Or CAU (= Civitates Americae Unitae) instead of USA??? I do not know, it's just a question ... --Roland2 22:31, 20 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
Estne Georgia in Europa aut in Asia? Vtique Georgia et Armenia et Aserbaedsania eidem continenti attribuendae sint. Quid censetis de: Georgia (Caucasus) et Georgia (CFA) (CFA = Civitates Foederatae Americae)? usor:Bohmhammel 21.16 h (UTC) 4 Non. Mart. 2006
Moeniae Europa permutitant...Georgia (CFA) formast vera, Georgia (Caucasus) non me vexat.  Id faciamus.--Ioshus Rocchio 21:41, 4 Martii 2006 (UTC)

message: Alicubi lexi, quod omnis nexus non saepius quod semel in una pagina faciendum sit. De inundatione nexuum iam prius in taberna disputavimus.  (Vide https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium_23#De_inundatione_nexuum)Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 13:21, 3 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nexus interni multiplices 

message: 1) Post numeros maiores quam mille oportet obiectum a numero indicatum in caso genitivo scribere.
2) Nusquam terrarum neque in Georgia montes 5000 milia chiliometrorum altitudinis habent.
3) Numeri inter 1000 et 9999 sine spatio scribendi sunt.
Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 13:56, 3 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: 1) Sed si alii numeri inter milia et obiectum veniunt, minus clarum est. Vide hanc disputationem. Equidem Gildersleeve sequor ("if a smaller number comes between, the substantive usually follows the smaller number"), sed ambi usús apud antiquos reperiuntur. 2) Ita, nunc video " 5 058 chiliometra," etc., mons vere ingens! :) Fortasse 5 km aut 5058 m. 3) Assentior ego. Lesgles (disputatio) 15:03, 3 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  De altitudine montium
Disputatio:Texia

message: Quin Texas, Texae, fem? 217.184.1.137 22:23, 27 Februarii 2006 (UTC)

message: So, Emachinest3256, you're alleging that Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio are the biggest city in Texas? Has Dallas–Houston–San-Antonio then become one giant conurbation?! IacobusAmor 18:09, 15 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Maxima urbs

message: Iuxta exemplum "urbs Roma" (non urbs Romae) puto rectum meliusque est scribere "civitas Texia" praeter "civitas Texiae" pro "State of Texas".--Rafaelgarcia 23:24, 18 Ianuarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Civitas Texas aut Civitas Texiae

message: ...........texas or tejas is tranlated to tegula or tegulae on latin.  thanks....  redfoxreed.
replies: text: It doesn't work like that with place names. If it did, the state might be called "Tiles" in English, but, as you realise, it isn't. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:46, 26 Iunii 2011 (UTC)
What is the idea behind this version of the name? The -as portion is kinda crucial to the word. And would we want to go with something etymologically accurate? Texas came from a Caddo that literally meant "wolf," but was an idiom for "friend, ally, confederate." Hence "Amicitia." I'm new here, but I just thought I'd ask. Nevantinianus 07:42, 26 Februarii 2012 (UTC)

text: It's simply that we follow sources. You're quite right that Texas would work as a Latin form, but the only form that anyone has found in use in Latin text is "Texia" (see footnote on the page). Maybe no one has looked very hard: maybe, if you look, you'll find "Texas" used in Latin text. If so, your argument that it is more etymologically accurate would then be handy support for a page move. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:47, 26 Februarii 2012 (UTC)

text: Somebody somewhere expressed a liking for "civitas Texana". I found that form in use (spoken by a real Latinist) so I added it and cited the source. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:42, 9 Septembris 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomen
Disputatio:All's Well That Ends Well

message: I chose the name "Logoi" for "Parolles" because I think Greek would be to Latin what French is to English in the original play.D Ambulans 03:51, 28 Februarii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Parolles = Logoi

message: habeant -> habent? --Alex1011 15:10, 10 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How 'bout Omnia sunt bona quae bene finiuntur/peraguntur/terminantur? IacobusAmor 18:44, 10 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: habeant?
Disputatio:Malum

message: Ok...you mean washington state? Not a whole lot of apples in DC...what's vendabentur?--Usor:Ioscius 03:04, 1 Martii 2006 (UTC)
I didn't think I had to put washington state because the Vashingtonia article lists both washington state and washington DC. Vendebantur is the 3rd person passive imperfect plural of vendo. Alexanderr 05:19, 1 Martii 2006 (UTC)
In my most recent edit I removed "arboribus" after conjoining it with a sentence that already addresses the subject. I hope the "it" can be invisible in this case, and that I haven't screwed anything up. Alexanderr 05:45, 1 Martii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this reference to the USofA usefull here? Does it add anything to the contents of the article? I wonder. --Agricola 18:39, 21 Augusti 2006 (UTC)

message: There are some problems with disambiguation here.
#Mălum, of course, means "evil", the noun. Since we don't allow accents in article titles, there's no way to distinguish them, and conceptually it seems that "evil" might supercede "apple." This might be fixed by moving this article to malus: it seems to me that while in English, words like "apple," "banana," "pear" and so on, default to meaning a fruit, and secondarily mean a tree, the botany is much more important in the Latin language. In other words, one might expect fruits to be covered in articles on trees, rather than vice versa. Conversely, as far as evil is concerned, it makes more sense to have an article on malum "the concept of evil" than on malus "evil man."
#While "apple" is the basic meaning of mālum (when it is used without a qualifier it pretty much always means "apple"), it is also used for other fruits:
#*Malum Cydoneum = quince
#*Malum Punicum, malum granatum = pomegranate
#*Malum Persicum = peach
#*Malum Medicum = citron (citrum)
#*[Malum] Armeniacum = aprecot (praecoquus)
replies: text: And this pattern can be easily extended: I'm quite sure that I've encountered malum Sinense vel sim. for "orange" somewhere, and both David Morgan and I have independantly proposed malum Tingitanum for "tangerine" (seems like a no-brainer to me).
I'm not certain what the best solution is, but it is clear that we should have these issues in mind, and put otheruses text at the top of the articles, whatever we end up deciding. --Iustinus 14:55, 21 Augusti 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation
Disputatio:As You Like It

message: Some of my choises were:
*AMBIANUS for Amiens because the Latin name of the French city to which Shakespeare's choice of a name alludes is Ambianum, -i (n.)
*Iohannes SECESSUS for Jaques because his name can be French for John but also a disguised reference to a "jakes" (lavatory, privy, latrine), and "secessus" is a euphemism for "latrina", or "forica"
*KALOS (Greek for Handsome) for Le Beau because I believe Greek is to Latin what French is to English in Shakespeare
*Dominus Rolandus a Burdigala for Sir Rowland de Boys because in Lodge's Rosalynde (Shakespeare's source), his name is Sir John of Bordeaux (Burdigala)
*LYDIUS LAPIS for Touchstone because a "touchstone" is a "Lydius lapis"
*DOMINUS OLIVERIUS CORRUPTELA for Sir Oliver Martext because of the pun on "Mar text" and "corruptela"
*CORIDON for Corin because that's a classical version of the name.
thread_title: Dramatis Personae
Disputatio:Henry V (Shakesperius)

message: I have removed the Categoria:Imperatores Romani Sacri tag because this Henricus Quintus is a play by William Shakespeare about Henry V the English King  and not Henry V the Holy Roman Emperor .
I guess the image that was added also refers to the Holy Roman Emperor and should also go. D Ambulans 21:50, 1 Martii 2006 (UTC)
You are right. It was the wrong king, I've removed the image. --Roland2 22:24, 1 Martii 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Categoria Imperatores Romani Sacri removed
Disputatio:Res publica popularis democratica Coreana

message: NPOV?  Calling him a crude dictator, while subjectively true in my opinion, isn't the most academic way of putting it.--Ioshus Rocchio 17:29, 2 Martii 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Congruo. Illud erasi. cerasusvoca! 12:38, 23 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
Ego non loquor latine. Auxilium cum articulum!!! --Jeneme 08:09, 17 Maii 2008 (UTC)

message: Since in classical Latin, "democratic" is popularis, and "the (common) people" is plebs or vulgus or multitudo, and names that use "of" in English are usually rendered with adjectives, why wouldn't a better, or at least a more literal, version of "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" be Res Publica Hominum Popularis Coreana? or perhaps with what Bradley's Arnold suggests might approach the more typical classical word-order, Popularis Coreana Hominum Res Publica or Coreana Popularis Hominum Res Publica? or perhaps, more accurately reflecting the communist ethos: Coreana Popularis Vulgi Res Publica etc.? Would whoever coined or first used the term here provide an explanation or cite informed attestations? IacobusAmor 12:18, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Or Corea Borealis or (already present as an alternative) Septentrionalis? The shorter the Latin names we invent, the smaller are the messes we make, I sometimes think. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:26, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Good point, Andrew, except that the world has seen more than a handful of "democratic people's republics," and we'll want to translate them all the same way. The foundational noun, res publica, is set. For the "democratic" part of the notion, the classical term popularis seems unarguable. For the "people's" part, communist ideologies might be taken to favor the common people—which leads us (as said above) to plebs or vulgus or multitudo. Which of these is preferable, and the order of the resulting words, remains unclear. IacobusAmor 12:39, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::This issue has come up before in the context of naming political parties in the US. Republicans and Democrats. We need to remember that political party names usually don't mean anything in particular, or translatable. They are just names. Their meaning vary not only from country to country, but from year to year. The best you can do is Latinize the endings.--Rafaelgarcia 12:41, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :::After reading the new page Forma administrationis, I can see your point better. Perhaps it would be a good idea to rename People's Democratic republic by transation since it is understood to be a kind of government rather than just a proper name. If so I think it would be better to name the page Corea Septentrionalis and start it by saying: Corea Septentrionalis, publice Popularis Vulgi Respublica Coreae, ..."--Rafaelgarcia 20:35, 27 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
Auxilium voco, hic sunt Vandalis [Anon]

text: Gratias ago. Obstrui. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:34, 17 Decembris 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Title
Disputatio:Glasgua

message: Just seeding an article for 1,000,000th en article translation: Mons Iordanus constituo. Sorry for the inconvenience!

message: Mihi videtur "Glasgua" multo usitatior; cf. etiam "universitas Glasguensis" et "Archidioecesis Glasguensis". "Glasgovia" in textibus Italianis reperio, in Latinis fere nunquam. Alii quid dicunt? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:15, 15 Aprilis 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomen
Disputatio:Volkswagen

message: Iam a mediaevalibus temporibus littera w in nominibus externis adhibetur, ut mea sententia hic non littera v substituenda sit. 217.184.36.118 20:35, 3 Martii 2006 (UTC)

message: Ut in Vicipaedia Theodisca iam descripta Vicipaedia Latina quoque Volkswagen nota fabricationis ab Volkswagen AG (societas sponsionis limitataeNorstedts Svens-Latinska ordbok 2009: Aktiebolag)) societate distinguenda est. Andreas Raether (disputatio) 10:15, 19 Novembris 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Volkswagen et Volkswagen AG