lflage/wiki-talks huggingface dataset:
Disputatio Formulae:Wagner opera

message: The concept of "Wagner opera" will include the BOOKS and ARTICLES that Wagner wrote. If only the musical works (the operas) are intended, fortasse melius Wagner operae vel Operae Wagnerianae vel Ludi musici Wagnerii vel Ludi musici Wagneriani vel similes. IacobusAmor 12:52, 24 Novembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You just moved the similar Mozart formula to "Mozart operae", so, if the same logic holds good, I guess you could choose "Wagner operae" for this one? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:05, 24 Novembris 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen formulae
Disputatio Categoriae:Photogenicae puellae Playboy

message: N.B. "Nomina categoriarum sunt pluralia si verbum plurale ad rem congruit" (vide VP:CAT). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:50, 27 Novembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Recte, move, quaeso, hanc categoriam et eodem modo Categoria:Photogenica puella Iuvenis Voluptarii, forsitan ad categoriam Photogenicae puellae Playboy (vide Disputatio:Iuvenis Voluptarius)--Schulz-Hameln 12:58, 27 Novembris 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  De titulo
Disputatio Categoriae:Piper

message: Quid sunt "pipera"? Quomodo hoc definitur? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:06, 30 Novembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Pipera sunt res in categoriam Anglicam (et Hispanicam, Theodiscam, &c.) Peppers digestae, inter quas Aframomum mele, Pimenta dioica, urfa biber (Capsicum annum), Granum piperis roseum, The 2008 United States salmonellosis outbreak (ut videtur a quibusdam contaminatis capsicis piperosis effectum), &c. Piper autem est quaelibet ex nonnullis rebus in categoriam Anglicam Piper digestis, inter quas Piper (genus), Piper achupallasense, Piper aduncum, Piper angamarcanum, Piper auritum, Piper azuaiense, &c. IacobusAmor 13:18, 5 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quaestio de categoria "Categoria:Pipera" nunc deleta
Disputatio:Latinitas macaronica

message: Nexus intervici partim ad paginas de litteris macaronicis coniungunt, partim de Dog Latin. Latinitas culinaria, si talem rem distinguere licet, aliter definitur (cf. e.g. Apicius de re coquinaria et Vinidarius). Departire propono: quid dicunt alii? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:50, 3 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Si in alia vicipaedia est pagina praecipua de latinitate macaronica (quomodocumque appellatur: Kuechenletein, Dog Latin, Potslatijn), pagina haec coniungenda est; ubi autem non sit pagina praecipua, sed tantum de omnibus macaronicis sermonibus, puto eam coniungendam esse.  Lele giannoni 11:53, 4 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Res confusae? 

message: Haec verba an re vera citata sint ex opere quodam Queneau, anne a Vicipaediano ficta, nescio. Per Google non possum confirmare: igitur deleo. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:54, 3 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Verbi gratia: "Sol erat in regionem zenithi et calor atmospheri maxima. Senatus populusque Parisiensis sudebant. Autobi passebant completi. In uno ex supradictis autobibus qui S denominationem portebat, hominem quasi junum, cum collo multi elongato et cum chapito a galono tressato cerclato vidi." (Raimundus Queneau)
thread_title:  Citatio? 

message: Rogo ut titulus huius paginae mutetur. "Latinitas culinaria" est enim locutio praesertim germanica (Küchenlatein). In plerisque regionibus "latinitas macaronica" dicitur. Lele giannoni 12:13, 2 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Consentio ego, sed n.b. citationem habemus de "Latinitate culinaria"; usque adhuc nullam de "Latinitate macaronica". Oportet enim, primo, citationem novi nominis proponere; secundo, si omnes consentimus, movere. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:16, 2 Februarii 2012 (UTC)

text: Addo: video titulum versionis Quixotianae "... in latinem macarronicum ...". Id fortasse possumus accipere, sed melius erit eandem locutionem in bona lingua Latina scriptam reperire! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:25, 2 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: : Capitulum primum libri Il latino maccheronico ab Ugo Enrico Paoli (Firenze: Felice le Monnier, 1959) compositi identitdem adiectivum macaronicus affert (ars macaronica, carmen macaronicum, &c). De origine Theophilus Folengo sic dicit: "Ars ista poëtica nuncupatur ars macaronica a macaronibus derivata, qui macarones sunt quoddam pulmentum farina, caseo, botiro compaginatum, grossum, rude et rusticanum; ideo macaronices nil nisi grassedinem, ruditatem et vocabulazzos debet in se continere" (cit.ex Paoli, p.5). Neander 15:05, 2 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Ab observatione titulorum paginarum de latinitate macaronica in aliis vicipaediis hoc patet: macarronicus cum duobus r praesertim ibericus (hispanicus et lusitanus) est. Lele giannoni 12:08, 4 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Gratias ambobus ago. Movi. S.t.p., Lele, sententias primas ubi necesse sit emenda! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Titulus
Disputatio:Curva Caesena

message: Curva Caesena est appellatio partis Viae Aemiliae apud urbem, sed saepius urbs sole Caesena nuncupatur. --Achillus 11:43, 5 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Assentior. Iam apud Tullium et Plinium Caesena (sine "curva") legitur. Neander 13:06, 5 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Curva Caesena 

message: (disputatio haec ex disputatione pristina extracta est)
replies: text: Neque intellego, quam ob rem capitulum "Insignia" locum tam conspicuum habeat, quamquam nihil novi afferre videtur. Neander 13:06, 5 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: :De illis insignibus rectissime dicis, amice. Ea in paene omnibus commentariis de urbibus Italicis a nostra Nuada factis videntur. Their function—if they need to be in those pages at all—resembles that of wiki icons (see, for example, the flag-icons in numerous pages in en:), best seen at 25px or so, not that of "ordinary" illustrations, usually printed at 250px or so. IacobusAmor 13:27, 5 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Consentio et ego. Nescio an possumus talia insignia, magnitudine reducta, in capsis includere et e textu delere ... Quid dicis, Achille? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:45, 5 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: :::"Insigne" de urbe Italiae parva utilitate in capitulo mihi etiam videtur; enim "insigne" non est, sive signum quod in insigne urbis apparet. Insignia alia reducantur; etiam formulam ex Vicipedia Italica transferre possumus et capitulum servare. Paginae multae sunt, si formula trasferatur automaton paginas omnes mutare possit. --Achillus 14:28, 5 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Exemplum: :

text: ::::--Achillus 15:44, 5 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::: Ita. Praeterea "Urbs nomisma argentea militaris virtutis causa tributum" non videtur recte esse. Ni fallor, debet esse: "Urbs nomismate argenteo militaris virtutis causa ornata" vel sim. Neander 16:15, 5 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insignia
Disputatio:Strophium

message: The definition refers to a brassiere, but that's just one kind of strophium: according to Cassell's, a strophium is also a stomacher (worn by men & women, says Merriam-Webster) and a headband (presumably also worn by men & women). So the lemma and the definition are noncongruent. The lemma could be fixed so it refers only to a brassiere, or the definition could be fixed so it refers to a thing that can be a brassiere, a stomacher, and a headband (and the interwiki links adjusted accordingly). IacobusAmor 00:28, 14 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Definitio

message: videram hunc errorem sed intervici nexus ad "soutien-gorge" vel "brassière" ducebat. Mamillare videtur in gallico dictionnario Gaffiot solum traduci in soutien-gorge et strophium in soutien-gorge(brassière) , couronne, (crown), and corde( rope) quod est largiore extensione.
thread_title:   Definitio
Disputatio:Numerus perfectus

message: There is a very nice reference Utriusque Arithmetices Epitome where the perfect number 33550336 is first exhibited. This is probably worth mentioning, if only since the result was published in Latin.
I don't trust my Latin well enough to make the addition myself, though; if someone sees this and is able to help, please do so!
Note: The result appears in chapter 7; you'll see the chart printed sideways.  One tip: if you don't recognize monadicis and decadicis (I didn't), they seem to refer to 1- and 2-digit numbers, based on reading passages from some other math books in Latin.
CRGreathouse 21:58, 15 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Best rendered, I think, in English, 'units' and 'tens', and then 'hundreds' and 'thousands' for the next similar words mentioned.

text: I would add the link, but I'm not sure how to link a specific page from Google (linking to the start of the book, as you did, would not be desirable). Pantocrator 23:00, 15 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference
Disputatio:Coffearia

message: :"domus caffearia"[1], ... "taberna cafearia" : One F or two? Mattie 21:46, 25 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: :Melius two, je crois; praeterea, littera vocalis melius sit O, non A, et omne verbum ergo sit coffearia, quia nomina principalia sunt coffea et coffeum. Sed nonnulli fontes aliter attestantur. IacobusAmor 22:24, 25 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Pondus synonymorum in textu reduxi, in notis auxi. Iacobum secutus, ff selegi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:43, 21 Iulii 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Ff
Disputatio:Diodus

message: Quare femininum? --Robert.Baruch 02:03, 26 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Quia mutuatum est a Graeco sermone: ὁδός (h)odos 'via', verbum feminini generis. Itaque etiam δίοδος diodos 'pervium, transitus, meatus', ἄνοδος anodos 'via sursum' et κάθοδος kathodos 'via deorsum' feminini generis sunt. Neander 13:16, 26 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genus
Disputatio:Par acquirendi potestas

message: Melius, putamus, Aequalitas facultatis emendi, vel fortasse Aequalitas potestatis emendi, vel, si fingere ut novum verbum artis proprium habeamus necessarium sit, Paritas facultatis emendi. IacobusAmor 13:05, 30 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: De lemmate
Disputatio:Mentor

message: De verbo, quo utimur, hic disputatum est. Mattie 20:17, 4 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Regula cui saepe obtemperamus est usum originalem in titulis paginarum privilegiare: ita Mentor erit persona Odysseae, Mentor (educatio) (vel sim.) huius paginae titulus. Nisi quis aliter velit, movebo ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:30, 5 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ita, te sperabam rectiorem titulum suasurum esse ... etiam de Mentor (magister personalis) meditari potes (at fortasse nimis longus est hic titutlus). Mattie 18:29, 5 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Non movi; fortasse quod de hac re oblitus sum; fortasse quod "Mentor (persona)" est titulus pellucidus et res bene stant! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:43, 26 Martii 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Optime! :-) Mattie (disputatio) 19:39, 27 Martii 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Mentor, -oris
Disputatio:Lynx rufus

message: Yes, Felidibus was a typo! IacobusAmor 16:31, 5 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)

message: Primitivus isn't in Cassell's, which offers priscus and antiquus. IacobusAmor 16:33, 5 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. I was getting my word from Traupman, which has original as primitivus and primus. Priscus is much better, I think. --Robert.Baruch 20:01, 5 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Primitivus
Disputatio:3251 Eratosthenes

message: 3251 Eratosthenes est asteroides cinguli asteroidum, qui die 24 Septembris anno 1960 ab astronomis Nederlandicis Cornelis Ioannes van Houten, Ingrid van Houten-Groeneveld et Tom Gehrels inventus est. Nomen ab astronomo antiquo Eratosthene Cyrenaeo repetit.
thread_title:  Textus deletus
Disputatio:Tergeste

message: Convertimus
replies: text: Tergeste (-is, n.), vel Tergestum (-i, n.) (Italiane: Trieste ; Germanice: Triest ; Slovenice: Trst), Urbs Italiae et municipium, circiter 206 000 incolarum, caput homonymae provinciae et regionis Fori Iulii et Venetiae Iuliae [ta-daa!] est. 
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text: Tergeste (-is, n.), vel Tergestum (-i, n.) (Italiane: Trieste ; Germanice: Triest ; Slovenice: Trst), est urbs Italica et municipium, circiter 206 000 incolarum, caput homonymae provinciae et regionis Fori Iulii et Venetiae Iuliae. 
OK? IacobusAmor 15:29, 12 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :"caput homonymae provinciae provinciae Tergestinae" melius. --Achillus 15:52, 12 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Sic, melius, sed rogabam de est. IacobusAmor 16:00, 12 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :::"A est B" est regula Vicipaediae Latine, sic suadeo ut fiat. --Achillus 16:08, 12 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Est
Disputatio:Sargent Shriver

message: Praenomen Sargent originale restitui quia "Sargent" nec praenomen usitatum nec verbum commune sit; sensu ignoto, Latine verti non potest. (Erit fortasse, more Americano, cognomen maternale in familia Shriver; id, nisi fallor, pro certo non habemus.) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:12, 14 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Recte mones, amice. Nomen Sargent paene semper est cognomen, haud praenomen usitatum. IacobusAmor 14:14, 14 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Praenomen
Disputatio:Vires Aeriae Civitatum Foederatarum

message: In case this article should ever be moved from Civitatum Foederatarum Americae Aeris Exercitus to a different title, it would be great to adapt translatewiki:MediaWiki:Wm-license-pd-usgov-military-air-force-wiki-link/la accordingly. --UV 19:55, 14 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  de lemmate
Disputatio:Exercitus Civitatum Foederatarum

message: In case this article should ever be moved from Exercitus Civitatum Foederatarum to a different title, it would be great to adapt translatewiki:MediaWiki:Wm-license-pd-usgov-military-army-wiki-link/la accordingly. --UV 19:56, 14 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  de lemmate
Disputatio:Morbus venereus

message: Ancient and well-attested in many languages though it be, the concept of "venereal disease" is outdated. The currently prevailing concept is "sexually transmitted infection," as seen, for example, in the journal Sexually Transmitted Infections. See :de:Sexuell übertragbare Erkrankung, :es:Infecciones de transmisión sexual, :fr:Infection sexuellement transmissible, u.s.w. The Venereal Disease Research Laboratory of the U.S. Public Health Service has been renamed the Treponemal Pathogenesis and Immunology Branch. The times they are a-changin'. IacobusAmor 00:49, 24 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: While I can't claim any expertise in this realm, I admit that many languages have adopted the sermo cancellarius type of wording "sexually transmitted". But if "venereal disease" is outdated in English and some other languages/cultures, does it automatically follow that it's outdated in medical Latin as well? A look at the internet tells me that this isn't the case. Can you cite a source for a less outdated medical Latin term? Neander 10:02, 24 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :Since "venus" is an ordinary term for sexual activity (see Labor, cibus, potio, somnus, venus), there doesn't seem to be much difference in concept between the older terms and the newer ones; therefore no positive reason to change? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:56, 24 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Lemma
Disputatio:Universitas Treverensis

message: Quid significat "S."? "Societas"? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:02, 24 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Sigillum", vide . Igitur, commentationem ad lemmatem novum movendam censeo. --UV 22:56, 24 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: : Commentatione mota causa finita ;-) --UV (disputatio) 21:00, 18 Martii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Mmm, tardius :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:06, 18 Martii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''S.'''
Disputatio:Kyoto

message: "Kioto" here, and Kyoto Protocol → Tractatus Kiotoensis. Do we accept Nuntii Latini as a valid source? Mattie 04:55, 26 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think we do. But there's a counter-example: I just found Kyotensis, supported by this page too. You pays your money and you takes your choice. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:43, 26 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :Atque ut videtur Cyoto, ex Culice cyotoensi (hic), nomine insecti in Corea endemici. IacobusAmor 13:39, 26 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Bibliotheca Publica Bambergensis

message: Paginam hic movi quia usor anonymus ita voluit, et (sicut mihi videtur) recte. Si male feci, revertite s.v.p.!
Usorem anonymum obstrui (1 diem) quia non licet paginas vacuare (ob historiam paginarum hoc modo deleturam). Eis qui paginas movere volunt conventum aperire oportet et rite movere. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:23, 26 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ... iamque deobstruxi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:09, 26 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pagina mota
Disputatio:Theo Angelopulus

message: * Transmissio (Η Εκπομπή) (1968)
* Reconstructio delictis (Αναπαράσταση) (1970)
* Dies anni triginta sex (Μέρες του ’36) (1972)
* Histriones (Ο Θίασος) (1975)
* Venatores (Οι Κυνηγοί) (1977)
* Alexander Magnus (Ο Μεγαλέξανδρος) (1980)
* Athenae (Αθήνα, επιστροφή στην Ακρόπολη) (1983)
* Iter ad Cytheram (Ταξίδι στα Κύθηρα) (1984)
* Apiarius (Ο Μελισσοκόμος) (1986)
* Terra in nebulam (Τοπίο στην Ομίχλη) (1988)
* Passus intermissus ciconiae (Το Μετέωρο Βήμα του Πελαργού) (1991)
* Admiratio Odyssei (Το βλέμμα του Οδυσσέα) (1995)
* Eternitas in die uno (Μια Αιωνιότητα και μια Μέρα) (1998)
* Helena (Τριλογία - Ι. Το λιβάδι που δακρύζει) (2004)
* Pulvis temporis (Τριλογία - ΙΙ. H σκόνη του χρόνου) (2009)
* Τριλογία - ΙΙΙ. Η άλλη θάλασσα (2012)
--Felix Folio Secundus 20:53, 29 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filmographia
Disputatio:Universitas Civica Kansiensis

message: Gaudio, Universitas Kansiae, recte Universitas Kansiensis, est alia universitas; institutum hic descriptum est Universitas Civitatis Kansiae (vel fortasse Publica Kansiae Universitas). The University of Kansas (the equivalent of this article's lemma) is *NOT* the same institution as Kansas State University (the subject of this article's present definition and intervici links). Those from outside North America will want to understand that many U.S. states have a double track for the highest levels of education: the University of X is sometimes the more research-oriented (and more prestigious) one, with the State University of X or X State University as the more practically oriented (and less prestigious) one, sometimes having begun as a small institution emphasizing agriculture and mining, or for some other purpose (for example, Florida State University began as the Florida State College for Women, in contrast with the University of Florida). So the lemma here is false and needs fixing. IacobusAmor 12:19, 3 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Since we already have an article about "University of Kansas", and the intention here was clear, I've gone ahead and moved this page. The reason I tried "Universitas Civica ..." is because I think I or we have used that formula elsewhere once or twice, because it might deal better with a case like "Kent State University" (where as we know Kent is not the name of a state), and just because it was my choice. But I don't really want to be involved in naming US universities! So if anyone prefers a different version for this and our few other "Universitates Civicae", and moves them, I will be perfectly happy. As far as I know, we have discovered no Latin authority or precedent for "... State University". Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:00, 3 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Lemma
Disputatio Categoriae:Poesis Hiberniae

message: Is there a reason it's "poesis" and not, as per our custom, "poësis"? Mattie 23:28, 5 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In the past it made sense, because you can't redirect to category names, and not everyone can type a diaeresis. That no longer matters because the search box will now find the correct name even if you type it without a diaeresis. So I guess relevant categories could be renamed. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:50, 6 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :OK, will do. Mattie 00:25, 9 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Diaeresis
Disputatio:Alexander Skrjabin

message: Hello, why did you use this graphy rather than "Scriabin, inis" which looks more latin ? It's written this way in french, and often used in spanish and italian. FredD 16:03, 8 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If we can find him named in a reliable Latin source anywhere, we'll use that. Where we can't find such a source, then for surnames we use the best-accepted international transliteration, and that's what this is. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:23, 8 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name graphy
Disputatio:Fora Imperatorum

message: Habemus lemmatis fontem ex tempore Imperii Romani? Secundum White's et Cassell's, imperialis, -e non est verbum Latinum, sed adiectivum imperatorius Anglice = 'imperial'. Hic est consilium quod apud Cassell's legimus, sub voce Anglica imperial : "render by a genit., e.g. imperatoris, principis, Caesaris, imperii ; adjectives occur in late authors, such as principalis and imperatorius in Suet." IacobusAmor 20:31, 9 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Dunno. The page was begun by Iustinus 7 years ago. He has been the best of all of us at sourcing names, but what he'll say about this I don't know ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:56, 9 Februarii 2012 (UTC)

text: It was a very good question, Iacobe. Google looks negative on "Fora Imperialia". "Fora Imperatorum" has been used occasionally in modern writings by classicists: we may perhaps have to move to that. I'm not sure that ancient authors grouped these structures under any single name at all, unless, just conceivably, "Forum [Romanum] Magnum" (see "regio viii" in this list). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:23, 9 Februarii 2012 (UTC)

text: "Imperialis", according to Du Cange, is used in medieval Latin but specifically of the Holy Roman Empire. Yes, it looks to me as if we'll have to move this, but better wait in case someone has a really good name to suggest. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:31, 9 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :I don't have anything definitive, but I looked in Hofmann's Lexicon Universale in Camena -- the entry starts here -- and noticed that he never refers to the "imperial forums" as a group.  But whenever he names a particular forum, it's always "so-and-so's forum," with a genitive (except for Forum Romanum and Forum Transitorium), which would seem to support Fora imperatorum.  A quick-and-dirty search through Camena and through Google Books turns up only one use of forum imperalis, but it's a legal term referring to the imperial law court.  I also searched the PHI, where I can do a lemmatized-word search rather than just a string search, and don't find either phrase, not entirely surprising since so many of the authors in the PHI corpus lived before there were enough forums to need collective names for them.  This is an interesting question;  surely there must be some humanist somewhere talking about all the Fora?  A. Mahoney 22:35, 9 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Thanks for commenting. As to the names of the individual ones, my impression with the first two is that the adjectival form (Forum Iulium, Forum Augustum) was initially the official one (both are so named in the Res gestae Divi Augusti) and the genitival form (Forum Caesaris, Forum Augusti) was colloquial and took the field later. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:40, 10 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: :::I think the move was good (because the current name is directly supported by a published book title) but Iacobus has now found support beyond Cassell's for the adjective "imperialis". See Disputatio:Aedificium Civitatis Imperialis. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:51, 16 Februarii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Lemma