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Disputatio:Promontorium Occidentale

message: Fortasse loci nomen rectius sit Promontorium Occidentale. Nobis dicit Ainsworth hoc verbum geographicum point Latine esse promontorium vel terrae lingua. Scripsit Daniel Defoe, in libro A Tour thro' the Whole Island of Great Britain (1724–1727): "The east point, or Dingsby-Head, he calls Virvedrum Promontorium. The west point, or Farro-head, he calls Saruedrum Promontorium. IacobusAmor 23:59, 24 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could very well be Promontorium is better.  I don't have a personal feeling about it. Magister Dalby, was denkst du darüber? LionhardusCiampa 00:55, 25 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ich glaube, dass unser Freund Dalby in Frankreich wohnt. Warum sprechen wir auf Deutsch?! IacobusAmor 01:21, 25 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Weil Deutsch die beste Spräche ist! Warum Occidentis und nicht das adjektiv (Occidentale) daher Promontorium Occidentale mein Jakob? --Harrissimo 16:06, 26 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Why me? Not much of a military type. OK, my view is that it all depends what "West Point" means in this case. And I don't know. :en:West Point is uninformative. On my map I don't see any Promontorium. Is it the west angle of Highland County? Is it, maybe, not even Occidentale, but named after an 18th century farmer called West? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:28, 26 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

text: With respect to the mountains it does jut out into the river or rather it causes the river to flow in a bend. I think this jutting out is why the military base was first located there, in order to control the river. These facts do not tell us why it is called west point however or what precisely the meaning of west is.--Rafaelgarcia 13:15, 19 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :It is also on the west side of the river.--Rafaelgarcia 15:42, 19 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::You mean the Hudson? Not very close to it, according to my map. But maybe my map is wrong! You're right, en:wiki says it is on a "scenic overlook" above the Hudson. Maybe that's it. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:02, 19 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Yes it is on the left or western bank of the hudson river. On the opposite bank approximately a mile north is the village of cold spring harbor. see map--Rafaelgarcia 16:53, 19 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::So what's the problem? A point is "a projecting usu. tapering piece of land or a sharp prominence" (Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary). IacobusAmor 17:12, 19 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::I think the problem is just that the map Andrew used wasn't accurately showing that West Point is actually a point in that sense.--Rafaelgarcia 17:15, 19 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::That is exactly it. Since en:wiki (when I consulted it) was not very clear where this place was, I think I found a different West Point elsewhere in New York State. This one is a promontory. No problem at all, therefore. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:07, 19 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Franciscopolis (Francia)

message: Shouldn't ablative be Franciscopoli rather than Franciscopolis? E.g. see the picture.--Rafaelgarcia 00:50, 25 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but the construction is: Despectus in + acc. --Neander 01:44, 25 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Neander, thanks for the help. The accusative is +in for these? Do you know where I can learn these greek Latin declension forms? I haven't been able to find an authoritative source on my own.--Rafaelgarcia 02:14, 25 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :: Rafael, what is important to me is getting the syntax right. The choice between morphological variants (-polin vs -polim) is very much a matter of style. Perhaps Franciscopolim would've been better. Anyone may safely change the ending. --Neander 03:47, 25 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

text: :: Rafael, I'm pretty impressed with Usor:Fabullus/declinatio nominum Graecorum. Try that. --Iustinus 03:59, 25 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

message: Suadeo hanc paginam et hanc categoriam in Franciscopolis (Francia) movenda. Est enim urbs satis celebra, idem nomen Latinum habens, in California. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:53, 31 Augusti 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: But the one in California is the big one and therefore deserves the unmarked entry? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:09, 7 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: :An overwhelming number of the cities linked as plain old Franciscopolis refer to the one in California. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:14, 7 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: ::They are both very important places (a bit like Nicaea (Turcia) and Nicaea (Francia)) so I'm not convinced either should have the unmarked entry. I think, however, because of the weight of links, that the unmarked redirect should go straight to Franciscopolis (California) so I've done that anyway. If you feel that a move is still needed, maybe suggest at Disputatio:Franciscopolis (California)? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:46, 7 Decembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movenda?
Disputatio:Index incolarum notorum Athenarum

message: Nonne explicandum est hanc paginam ad illos tantum spectare, post urbem saeculo undevicesimo reconditam qui fuerunt aut sunt?--Irenaeus 14:43, 27 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Est pagina novissima; sed antiquos incolas iucundissime accipit. Adde, s.v.p.! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:32, 27 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

message: Ubinam invenisti vocabulum 'prosatores'? In TLL certe non invenitur. --Fabullus 19:31, 11 Octobris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Confiteor. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:28, 11 Octobris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Prosatores
Disputatio Formulae:PaginaMensis/Septembris 2007

message: I'm wondering if you don't want to expand the intro, at all, Xaveri, both in the article and on the pagina mensis formula. It looks a little small in comparison to other months'. What do you think? --Ioscius (disp) 15:11, 31 Augusti 2007 (UTC)
What do we mean by "signum vulgum"? A commoner's symbol? If so it should be signum vulgare. A frequently found symbol? Then signum frequens (oh no, not that can of worms again!). Other possibilities: signum divulgatum, which I think can mean "widespread," or signum sollemne "official symbol" but I think it can also mean "frequently used symbol." --Iustinus 01:41, 1 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually "Signum frequens" would translate accurately as "frequently used symbol" or "frequently visited symbol" but I don't know if frequent symbol is what it means in the figure. I think it means commonly or widely used.--Rafaelgarcia 01:47, 1 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :I'm not sure what distinction you are trying to make from my gloss. Nor for that matter what the difference is between "frequently used" and "commonly used." Is your idea that "frequently used" would mean "Someone might use it many times" as opposed to "Many people might use it"? (I knew I shouldn't bring this topic up) --Iustinus 01:54, 1 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

text: :Looking at some classical examples it does look like that distinction holds up. But I'm still not sure that "frequently used" and "commonly used" in this particular context have terribly different meanings. --Iustinus 01:59, 1 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::I agree the difference in meaning is not great and that it can equally be used to translate "frequently used" and "commonly used" here.--Rafaelgarcia 02:10, 1 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::OK, in that case I'll wait and see what Xaverius and the others have to say. --Iustinus 02:14, 1 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

text: "Signum sollemne" sounds the best.--Rafaelgarcia 01:50, 1 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

message: When I put together the extra text for the beginning of the article. I changed one of Xavieri's translations from "Odoacer Romulo Augustulo ex imperiumo sustulit" to "Odoacer Romulum Augustulum ex imperiumo sustulit", because Words says sustulit takes a direct object. Can someone verify that I didn't mess up?--Rafaelgarcia 02:33, 1 Septembris 2007 (UTC) 
replies: text: I fixed the um->o above and made the corrections to the main page as well. I suspect the main page may contain additional typos here and there.--Rafaelgarcia 03:21, 1 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Romulo aut Romulum?
Disputatio:Jhonen Vasquez

message: I don't think we can Latinize Jhonen. I suggest Jhonen Vasquez. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:56, 2 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What about Iohannes Vazsquez?--Xaverius 15:10, 2 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Is Jhonen Iohannes? It seems logical, but what is the history of it? And why would we change the orthography of his surname? En: does spell it with an s. --Iustinus 16:16, 2 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

text: :Oops, ignore that last comment. I somehow misunderstood the significance of the z. --Iustinus 16:18, 2 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Don't worry. My fault. In Iberian Spanish Vazquez is the proper form: Vasquez is the derivation that remained in the "colonies"--Xaverius 16:26, 2 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Zagrabia

message: Removi haec verba: "Zagrabia est forma Slavica et Neolatina, sed tempore Romano huius nomen antiquum Andautonia erat, cuius ruinae classicae conservatae sunt" quod falsa sunt. Ut videmus ab aliis Vicipaediis (e.g. :hr:Andautonia) fontibusque archaeologicis, Andautonia non est idem ac Zagrabia. Vide nunc Andautonia. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:08, 2 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Additio anonyma
Disputatio:Vanuatu

message: Re: "Harum insularum detector Europaeus primus annis 1595 - 1599 Vincentius Bune (Vice Bune) fuit, navigator Dalmaticus ex Ragusa (Dubrovnik)." ← What's the source of this statement? Peter H. Buck's book Exploreres of the Pacific (Honolulu: Bernice P. Bishop Museum special publication 43, 1953) doesn't mention Bune, and it implies (p. 9) that the first Europeans to sight Vanuatu were on an expedition led by Pedro Fernandez de Quiros, and that this expedition "discovered" the New Hebrides in 1606, and, further, that on 3 May 1606 Quiros "discovered" an island he called Australia del Espíritu Santo—a name that, reduced to Espiritu Santo, has stuck to the present day. IacobusAmor 02:39, 3 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And for what it's worth: today's issue of The Independent features a story about Vanuatuans who are doing an ethnographical study of England; the article says: "The first island in the Vanuatu group discovered by Europeans was Espiritu Santo in 1606 by the Portuguese explorer Pedro Fernandez De Quiros." IacobusAmor 17:29, 8 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :A curious case. See also Disputatio:Vincentius Bune. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:55, 20 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :: There is a wealth of information regarding Quiros' voyage to and discovery of Vanuatu, see English WP entry and links. Similarly, Mendana's voyage to the Solomons. These references to Bune thoughout the WP project all source each other as authorities!--Nickm57 00:29, 12 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Yes, thanks for the reminder, I've been meaning to get back to the Bune case. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:05, 12 Decembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The European discovery of Vanuatu (New Hebrides)

message: I removed the "francophony" and "anglophony" categories pro tem because we haven't applied them elsewhere in the world. Not sure if we need them. Note the Linguarum officialium catalogus: this may cover the need. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:31, 4 Iunii 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language categories
Disputatio:Casina (Plautus)

message: Eccam formulam (sermone Plauti =])) --Ioscius (disp) 04:33, 3 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, very nice, Iosci! The funny thing that happens on the way to this formula is that I can't see it with my usual browser (Firefox). Similarly, I can't see  with Firefox. I can see them with Opera, so I know they exist! I notice they both contain id="toc". An odd thing. I wonder if anyone else has the same problem.

text: Ah, now I've got it. It required the choice of "Table of contents" in "My preferences". The effect of that choice must be slightly different in different browsers. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:43, 3 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

message: Andrew, as you probably know, this phrase has caused much headache among philologists. Syntactically, cum latranti nomine may also go with comoedia as well as with Plautus. Is the explanation you give in fn.2 from MacCary & Willcock? --Neander 13:40, 3 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is, so I'll amend the note to cite them; and no, I didn't know that. M&W don't indicate that there's any controversy. Thanks, Neander! I can't add more myself because I don't have access to other views. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:06, 3 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cum latranti nomine
Disputatio:Cothena

message: Is scalptura the best word for engraving?  Scalpo -are definitely means to engrave/chisel/carve. LionhardusCiampa 13:15, 3 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But then again, so doesn't caelo -are. Maybe caelatura ligni?  Or for that matter scalptura ligni. LionhardusCiampa 03:41, 4 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scalptura=Engraving?

message: Cothena was used exclusively in ALL literature (usually as Cothenis Anhaltinorum).  Perhaps it would therefore be best to rename this article Cothena, and merely mention Cotha as a possible alternate form because it is mentioned by Graesse.--Dunnhaupt 20:54, 15 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have the cite, I say go for it. --Ioscius (disp) 21:56, 15 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: : Thank you! I have hundreds of citations of Cothena, none of Cotha.  But I don't know how to make this change in Wiki.  Can you help?--Dunnhaupt 09:50, 18 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::OK, I've moved it. But please either add a footnote reference to a sample source, or else cite a sample source here (as precisely as possible!) so that we can add it as a footnote. Thanks! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:55, 18 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cothena
Disputatio:Wintonia

message: I kept in the first sentence the two usual Latin names and put the others in the footnote. I think, to be helpful to readers, we need to be a bit selective with alternative names and highlight the ones that it makes sense for people to use. Graesse had a different purpose, so he just listed them all without distinction. Does that seem OK? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:30, 3 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More than OK: I think you're absolutely right.  Greetings, LionhardusCiampa 02:20, 4 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomina
Disputatio:Carolus Montesquieu

message: I of course don't add names to Index philosophorum unless I have a source (unfortunately I wrote that page before there was a <ref>-tag, so I didn't note anything). Looking at WorldCat again, I see no Latin name used by Montesquieu himself, but some used by others:
*1839 Iani Heemskerk:As is common in such dissertations, the author's Latin name is not given, but references list him as both Janus Heemskerk and Janus Heemskerk, so it's a fair bet the latter is his Latin name as it appears in the diss. Speciminis inauguralis. De Montesquivio.
*1839 Delbrück: Ad impugnandam Montesquievii sententiam de principio, unde regnorum integritas et salus petendae sint
*1892 Émile Durkheim [sic]: Quid Secundatus politicae scientiae instituendae contulerit
If we could find a name Montesquieu himself used, I would change the page immediately. If I wrote the page myself, I would use the name i listed in Index philosophorum. However, since neither is the case here, I leave it open to discussion. --Iustinus 22:29, 3 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
===Notes!?===
thread_title: Montesquieu in Latin

thread_title: Notes!?

message: Meyers Großes Konversations-Lexikon, tomus 14. Lipsiae 1908, p. 102-103 (hic in interreti)
thread_title: Fons recensionis mense Maio 2020

message: Effigiem nuper ad Communia e Vicipaedia Hispanica sublevatam ad interim removi, quia neque homo depictus neque origo delineationis pro certo habentur. Quibus rebus relatis, is qui vult restituere potest! Paucae Montesquivii effigies nobis praebentur, quarum nisi fallor omnes, ista excepta, e simulacro classicizante Academiae Francicae derivantur. Id simulacrum Academicum apud Vicidata substitui ego: ergo in capsa hoc tempore videmus. Si inde disparebit, possumus idem simulacrum sicut imaginem liberam in nostra pagina inserere. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:44, 10 Aprilis 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Effigies
Disputatio:Ysenacum

message: Question: why would it be est and not sunt here?  LionhardusCiampa 12:15, 4 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be sunt. I was too busy changing ist to est to notice, especially before the morning's second cup of coffee! IacobusAmor 12:25, 4 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Urbi est duo incolae notissimi

message: Quid significat informationes, vocabulum plurale, quod nugae videri potest. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 15:21, 18 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Informationes?
Disputatio:Augustinus Garcia Calvo

message: Well, assuming this articles stays, might I suggest that the Latin equivalent of Agustín is actually Augustus. --Iustinus 21:07, 6 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't it Augustinus (Sanctus Augustinus)?--Xaverius 21:22, 6 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Oops, that's embarassing. Obviously I meant Augustinus because it was already at Augustus. Duh. --Iustinus 10:03, 8 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::cristal clear now ;)--Xaverius 10:05, 8 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

message: Haec pagina movenda est ad Augustinus Garcia Calvo, porque Agustín es un nombre cristiano, parce que Agustín, c'est un prénom chrétien (Sanctus Augustinus), en espagnol San Agustín.
--Bonnot 12:59, 8 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haec pagina movenda est
Disputatio:Respublica Ragusina

message: A saeculo 14 aut a saeculo 11?  --UV 22:08, 6 Septembris 2007 (UTC)

message: Attestatum est nomen Respublica Ragusae (Anglice 'Ragusa's Commonwealth')? IacobusAmor 00:57, 17 Octobris 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen
Disputatio:Srilanca

message: Can we just call this Taprobane? That's what's usually done in Latin, I'm pretty sure. --Iustinus 02:18, 7 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I favour that. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:43, 10 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
I understand that titulus sit lemma, but in this case I believe the discrepancy between these two should have been resolved by changing the lemma, not the titulus. Ergo I prefer moving the article back to Taprobane, since it is an ancient name. Indeed we don't automatically call modern countries after ancient regions, because the boundaries are almost never exactly the same, but Sri Lanka / Taprobane being an island there is no such problem. Moreover, Taprobane as a classical declinable word looks better than Sri Lanca with the strange element Sri. Gabriel Svoboda 12:54, 10 Octobris 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: :That's fine with me. I merely wanted the title & the lemma to be consistent. IacobusAmor 13:17, 10 Octobris 2009 (UTC)

message: Fontibus nominis hodierni "Srilancae" iam citatis, fortasse paginam de civitate hodierna movere oportet? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:26, 9 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Nihil usque hodie feci, sed paginam categoriasque respectivas nunc volo movere. "Srilanca" a lexicographis hodiernis accipitur et cum nomine nativo civitatis consonat. Insuper "Taprobane" nomen dubium et ambiguum est, origine incerto, ab aliquibus non ad Sri Lanka sed ad Sumatram attributum. An quis abnuit? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:19, 21 Februarii 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fontes
Disputatio:Insulae Romanis antiquis cognitae

message: Removi
*Ultima Thule: h. ex partem Greenland?
*Terra Australis: h. ex parte Australia vel Nova Guinea?
Quis credit Romanos has terras unquam vidisse? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:23, 10 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Quis dixit rem cognitam esse rem visam? —Mucius Tever 02:06, 30 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Terrae incognitae

message: Nonne caret titulus quadam praepositione? --Grufo (disputatio) 17:38, 5 Septembris 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Die 5 Septembris 2023 — Estne haec pagina ad “[[Insulae a Romanis antiquis cognitae]]” movenda?
Disputatio:Praemia Videomusicarum Anni 2007 in MTV

message: Anglice, Praemia Videomusicarum = 'Awards of Videomusics'. A thread elsewhere (in Taberna?) deals with Latinizations of English video. IacobusAmor 12:00, 11 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the Latin for "video" as in the system and means of recording should be "videographia". "videomusica" is the Latin word I invented for music videos and is based on the use of the word "videomusic" in other romance languages. The MTV VMAs are essentially an award show for music videos, so "praemia videomusicarum" makes sense. -KedemusKedemus 07:57, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :It may make sense if you're trying to translate 'Awards of Videomusics', but why pluralize videomusics? The noun music is for most purposes unquantifiable, but pluralizing it in English is idiomatic in reference to the musical cultures of distinct peoples or societies ("Japanese and Cherokee musics"); the same pattern should apply to compounds based on music, such as night music and water music and (if English must have a new term) videomusic. The music performed by Britney & Madonna is so similar that speaking of "Britney's & Madonna's musics" seems like a stretch, as then of course "Britney's & Madonna's videomusics" would be (whereas "Britney's and Madonna's music[al] videos" would not be). ¶ Even if videomusica, -ae were an apt word, would idiomatic Latin prefer to use the derived adjective videomusicus, -a, -um so as to produce the title Praemia Videomusica'? Or would a preposition be better? According to L&S, Cicero (praemia alicui dare pro re aliquā and reddere alicui dare pro re aliquā) and Ovid (tibi pro scelere) use pro, and, if I'm reading L&S right, Cicero also uses it with ad and a gerundive (elicere ad faciendum aliquid). IacobusAmor 11:35, 12 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
"Videomusica" is one music video while "videomusicae" is more than one music video. This is an award show for several music videos, that's why the plural. Iacobus Amor got me thinking of how to better name this awards program in Latin. While these awards are mostly for music videos, as the English title "Video Music Awards" implies it is also for music and videos without respect to the other. Hence I was thinking of "Praemia Videorum et Musicae" et "Praemia Videographiorum et Musicae" (from "videum" and "videographium", possible Latinizations of "video"). However, these titles, especially the latter, would be way too long. Therefoe I was thinking of naming them "Praemia Videomusicalia"- VIdeomusical Awards, with "videomusicalis" being a compound adjective referring to both music and videos, functioning much like the English word "audiovisual". What do you think of these names? -KedemusKedemus 05:46, 13 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Titulus
Disputatio:Ioannes Gottfriedus Herder

message: Nomen est Gottfriedus aut Godofredus?--Irus 15:34, 11 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Habemusne verum fontem "Gottfriedi", qui Vicipaediá non innitatur? --Neander 11:11, 7 Maii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  De nomine 

message: Herders Conversations-Lexikon. Friburgi Brisgoviae 1855, tomus 3, p. 280-281 (hic in interreti)
thread_title: Fons recensionis mense Ianuario 2020
Disputatio:Islandia

message: If you look here you can find that Gardari insula is another name for Islandia, does this sound.. right? --BiT 21:55, 11 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's influenced by Garðarshólmi (or however it'd be spelled), I'd guess; see :en:Gardar Svavarsson (:is:Garðar Svavarson) and   —Mucius Tever 22:18, 11 Septembris 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: : Hm ok, I've added all three Latin names of Iceland. --BiT 18:24, 19 Februarii 2008 (UTC)

message: Why does it say "nihil" in the infobox? --SECUNDUS ZEPHYRUS 05:34, 13 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: Haec removi e categoria: "Islandenses sine commentatione quibus iam exstat nomen Latinum:
*Gislavius Thorlacius, episcopus Holensis.
*Theodorus Thorlacius, episcopus" Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:48, 10 Decembris 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomina