lflage/wiki-talks huggingface dataset:
Disputatio:Macaulay Culkin

message: Since Macaulay is not a historic first name (it's a Scottish clan name) there is no customary Latin conversion for it. Checking Google shows that the only evidence for "Macaulaeus" comes from Vicipaedia and its mirrors, with one unpromising exception (I quote): minus recte Macaulaeus. So I've moved to Macaulay again and corrected the page. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:19, 23 Maii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Praenomen
Disputatio:Alcaeus

message: 'λαβών' habet vocem activam, sed 'sumptus' vocem passivam, ergo nuper mutata non intellego! 65.101.226.225 21:57, 25 Maii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Neque ego. Lineam Athenaei correxi denuoque Latine reddidi, ut clarior esset. --Neander 01:35, 26 Maii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Recte dicitis. Credo me iam dormivisse cum haec 'corrigebam'! Ceterum, usor ignote, nonne vis tibi nomen assumere? Ita facilius inter nos disputare possumus. --Fabullus 05:39, 26 Maii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Imaginem paullo veteriorem addidi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:25, 26 Maii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: sumptus pro sumpto
Disputatio:Volen Siderov

message: Potestne quis adiuvare et arbitrari quomodo "Parlement européen"/"Europäisches Parlament" latine tradi oportet? Radex enim parl- francogallicus est et praeterea dubitationes sentio. Omnesvulnerantun 12:27, 26 Maii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Parlamentum Europaeum? IacobusAmor 12:32, 26 Maii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ita. Sed si verbum iam ratum est, id non alterabo. Omnesvulnerantun 12:43, 26 Maii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Traductio verbi recentis
Disputatio Categoriae:Numeri Romani

message: :Do we really need these pages? they have no info but I numerus Romanus est, and this goes from 1 until 28. I propose to delte them all.--Xaverius 12:55, 27 Maii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand your reason, but sometimes they can be useful, I for instance used them when I had to write a number but I had'nt the possibility to check the correct ortography in a grammar (but I see now we have already the same page for the arabic numer). Of course it should be better if somebody could add to the page some information. I believe actually that in the Roman world as in the Bible each number could have a particular meaning --Massimo Macconi 13:54, 27 Maii 2008 (UTC)

message: I agree we should have pages on numbers (all the small ones + some other interesting ones), but I don't see a need to have a different page for V and 5, X and 10, etc. Anyone opposed to making these redirects to the corresponding pages in :Categoria:Numeri naturales? Lesgles (disputatio) 01:02, 17 Iunii 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Mihi placet! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:31, 17 Iunii 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirectio?
Disputatio:Anna (Aeneis)

message: Hanc personam an debemus eandem facere cum dea Romana Anna Perenna? Legimus apud en:wiki Ovidium Annam Carthaginiensem et Annam Perennam personam singularem fecisse. Sed fortasse haec sit inventio Ovidii? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:20, 28 Maii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Anna Perenna?
Disputatio:Daia

message: Sicut adiunxi in disputationem articuli catalane scripto, fortasse nomen sit latinum Deianum, ab anthroponimo 'Deius', ut alia uicorum in Catalonia nomina:
Paulinus > Paulinianum (Polinyà)
Gaius > Gaianum (Gaià)
Licinius > Licinianum (Lliçà)
Lucius > Lucianum (Lluçà)
et alia sic. Fortasse dico. Salutem! --Quirinus Xρυσοχαίτας 17:10, 28 Maii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Utile est nomen Hispanicum urbis addere, sine ulla consideratione rerum politicarum momentanearum, quia in fontibus historicis et internationalibus (e.g. de vita Roberti Graves) auctores nomine Hispanico saepe utuntur. Igitur paginam protegi. Si editor anonymus vult de hac re disputare, hic disputato! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:17, 2 Novembris 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomen
Disputatio:Norbertus (archiepiscopus Magdeburgensis)

message: Pro adiutorio, scriptor agit gratias Praemonstratensianibus priori Corporis Christi, in Anglia. -- [Anon]
thread_title: Origo commentationis

message: "eiectus ex equo humilitatem ei dedit": having been vomited out of a horse, he gave it humility? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 07:45, 4 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortasse melius: "equo deiectus, humilitati se ded(icav)it"? IacobusAmor 10:29, 4 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Versio
Disputatio:Nuptiae Romanae inter duos viros celebratae

message: I used the vicificanda template. Perhaps there is a potential article here? If so it needs to be a more encyclopaedic text under a better title, I think. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 07:34, 5 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And sources, and perhaps less POV. The Latinity is refreshingly nonsimple-minded, however!  IacobusAmor 11:58, 5 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vicificanda etc.

message: Qui haec scripsit sane meliore Latinitate utitur quam me, et correcta "corrigere" nolim, sed:
*Cur 'hocesse' in ima commentatione non duobus verbis ('hoc esse') scriptum est?
*Quid 'ne vera' in summa commentatione significat?
Mattie (disputatio) 16:49, 24 Iulii 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latinitas
Disputatio:Gordonus Brown

message: I moved back to "Gordon Brown" because I don't see any evidence that Gordon, when treated as a first name, has a Latin form "Gordonus". If there is evidence, let's cite it! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:47, 5 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say, there are a few, ex. gr.  --Alex1011 13:56, 5 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :OK. Nice one, Alex. We can put him back again, then. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:30, 5 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gordon

message: In this article, it is the Pars Operariorum and in the Antonius Blair article, it is called the Factio Laboris. I prefer Factio Laboris; Factio is more of a political word than Pars, Laboris sounds less communist than Operariorum (which I don't think is a standard word anyway) and doesn't have the later churchy connotations either.
Any other views? Ericbateson 11:48, 10 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Of those, I also prefer "Factio Laboris". Factio is our usual word for party, I think. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:39, 10 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Labour Party
Disputatio:Cognomen

message: Hoc index, ut credo, venit ex aliis wikiis (cf. e.g. :en:List of Roman cognomina et alibi). Sed exstant errores hic! Aurelius est nomen; Aloysius est praenomen post-Romanum; etc. etc. Nescio an debemus in Vicipaedia Latina indicem erroneum de rebus Romanis, sine fontibus, repetere. Quid dicunt alii? ...
Ego autem addo: fortasse bene sit. Habemus multos indices: ecce alius! Cur non? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:29, 5 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Origo indicis cognominum

message: Gualterii, vocabulum Caesar est cognomen. Gaii Iulii Caesaris nomen est Iulius. IacobusAmor 14:04, 13 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Credidi Kaesonem fuisse praenomen, non cognomen. Habemusne cognominis attestationes? IacobusAmor 17:02, 13 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Praenomen, nomen, cognomen
Disputatio:Defenestratio Pragensis

message: Re: "magnates . . . praefectos Caesaris catholici per fenestram iacuerunt." Fortasse hi magni illos praefectos iecerunt? IacobusAmor 16:29, 6 Iunii 2008 (UTC), nictans
replies: text: correxi. --Alex1011 17:39, 6 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: iacuerunt?
Disputatio:Indiana (discretiva)

message: "Indiana communitas in Terra Regni, Australia" non possum confirmare. Ubi est Terra Regni? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:04, 7 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortasse hoc vocabulum vult esse Terra Reginae 'Queensland'. IacobusAmor 20:12, 7 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Kingdom's Land?
Disputatio:Nova Hantonia

message: Should we move this page to Nova Hantonia, see history of the page Hantonia--Massimo Macconi 15:23, 8 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that depends on the source for Nova Hantescira. I don't know about American states. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:32, 8 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: : Nova Hantonia seems to exist. --Alex1011 15:47, 8 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::I prefer Nova Hantonia: it seems (slightly) better Latin and Alex has shown that it exists! I would be for moving. But maybe an American Latinist has a comment? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:56, 8 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :::It does look like Nova Hantonia has a long standing, and has apparently been used at Dartmouth at least.  I'm not sure what would make it better Latin though (it's just from 'Hamptonshire' rather than 'Hampshire').  –Mucius Tever 01:04, 9 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::I agree Hantonia (from the above source and by googling too) is a longer attested translation than Hantescira (given by Traupman Conv Lat), which we can give second.--Rafaelgarcia 02:05, 9 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::It may be noted that the State Seal of New Hampshire shows the state's Latin name to be Res Publica Neohantoniensis. CriticusFortuitus 06:03, 19 Iulii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::That adjective Neohantoniensis certainly suggests a noun phrase Nova Hantonia (though it doesn't prove it). Incidentally the reason I said Hantescira is less Latin is that it is Anglo-Saxon, not really Latin at all, though no doubt (like a great many Anglo-Saxon names) used in Domesday Book. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:17, 8 Maii 2010 (UTC)

message: De "verbis sollemnioribus Reipublice Neo Hantoniensis." Vide supra. Praeterea: litterae in sigillo sunt reipublicae, non reipublice (http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/keyword/sigillum-reipublicae-neo-hantoniensis)—and on the seal, it's in the genitive, whose nominative form would be Respublica Neo Hantoniensis. ¶ Also, the entry in Cassell's implies that sollemnis has no comparative (and superlative). (After all, its basic meaning is 'yearly, annual, periodic', and making a comparative of that concept isn't easy!) We often invent such forms, but the Romans might have objected, perhaps in the way that English-speakers might be amused to encounter a woman said to be more pregnant than expected. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 19:07, 14 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I've corrected the name. By all means insert your preferred term in place of "verbis sollemnioribus". Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:32, 14 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomen hodie additum
Disputatio:Anisus

message: Amice, sunt tibi horum nominum fontes? IacobusAmor 11:47, 9 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sunt, et alia nomina:  Anesis - Wordlist from Comphistsem Frankfurt, Jan. 2016--Utilo (disputatio) 23:03, 5 Novembris 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Anisus, Anisa, Anesus, Enesus, Enasa, Anasus, Enesis
Disputatio:Certamen Europaeum Pediludii 2008

message: Cur MMVIII utimur? Este melior atque recte si 2008 dicamus?--Xaverius 18:26, 12 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
Pagina nunc dicit: "Primum quaeque manus 16 civitatum una ex quattuor turmis contendit, postea primae et secundae manus ludis finalibus, in quo modo victoria aut clades peti potest, contendunt." Quomodo discrepant manus et turma? Anglice: "At first each hand of 16 states competes together out of four troops; then the first and second team compete to the goal game, in which way victory or defeat can be sought." Non intelligo--Rafaelgarcia 01:21, 22 Iunii 2008 (UTC)

message: ...fuisti paginam novandi. --Alex1011 20:57, 29 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celerissime...
Disputatio:Hizbullah

message: Guillelmus Tyrensis, qui de eadem regione scripsit, saepe pro regibus, imperatoribus etc. hac voce usus est; ego autem in pagina Vicipaediana supervacaneam esse credidi! Sed fortasse erro ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:47, 15 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Conatus sum titulum nobilitatis Arabicae سيد sayyid sic Latine reddere, fortasse parum feliciter. Quod in mente habeo in commentatione de (Domino) Hasan Nasrallah paullo amplius explicare. Mihi quidem videtur hoc pari modo atque Anglicum Sir vertendum esse. Quid censetis?--Ceylon 19:45, 15 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: De voce "Dominus"

message: Ait commentatio: "Hizbullah (Arabice: حزب الله ḥizbu-llāh 'factio Dei'), quae etiam Hezbollah, Hisbollah, aliter scribitur..." Suntne fontes formas "Hezbollah" et "Hisbollah" Latine corroborantes, aut an hae orthographiae, ab Arabico paulum aberrantes, modo ex alia lingua scripta Vicipaedia elatae sunt? Mattie (disputatio) 21:45, 16 Augusti 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orthographia
Disputatio:Wolfsburg

message: ey alex wir hatten ja erst im osten von niedersachsen und du hast ja jetzt geschrieben, dass es an der grenze liegt, was wir nicht so gut finden!--Baumwolf3 08:08, 19 Iunii 2008 (UTC)

message: Unum non capio. Cur nominatus Latinus pro oppido in lingua Theodisca "Wolfsburg" nominatum deducem Grecum scriptatur ("Wolf" et "Burg" = Lycopolis = Graece "lykos" et "polis" <-> Latine "lupus" et "oppidum")? 
Certo melius foret nominatus ex lupo et castro aut castello in "Castellum Lupi" vel latinizens mediam aetatem pertines "Wolfsburgium" componere. 
Hau, ceterum circa in coloniae civium primigenii ex Italia 13 pars ex centum solumque primigenii ex Graecia semissem (0,5) pars ex centum coriunt Stadt Wolfsburg 2015: Bevölkerungsbericht 2015
 Jan Scharf 2012: Integration und Teilhabe der Bevölkerung mit
Migrationshintergrund . Haec gravitatem denominationis Latinae et affirmat et confirmat neque verbalis mutuationis colorantis Grecae. 
Tamen eidem optationi cointelligite, creduite, consequite itidem! 
--Eisfisch (disputatio) 22:27, 16 Iulii 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Fontem huius nominis Graeci postulavi. Si fons non reperitur, nomen delere oportet. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 07:18, 17 Iulii 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Castellum Lupi" vel "Wolfsburgium" 

message: Dum(?) quis quid in quo bello tum accepit? --Bavarese (disputatio) 07:29, 23 Iulii 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Anno 1617: Dum hieme belli electricam lucem acceperunt"
Disputatio:Ordo professorum

message: Do we have attestions showing that English faculty (of professors) is Latin facultas (professorum)? On my diploma, the relevant phrase seems to be Ordo Professorum. IacobusAmor 01:41, 20 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a number of sources attesting it through googles:
replies: text: :http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~classics/lexicon.html
replies: text: ::And from a Harvard students' site, no less—yet a Harvard diploma identifies the Dean of the Faculty of Arts & Sciences as the DECANVS ORDINIS ARTIVM ET SCIENTIARVM. (Incidentally, it identifies the Dean of the Graduate School of Arts & Sciences as merely the DECANVS ACADEMIAE SVPERIORIS.) The OED has an attestation of facultas meaning 'a department in a university', from Giraldus Cambrensis from about 1184. There could be a subtle distinction here: a department isn't quite the same thing as 'the teachers & administrators of a school, college, or university', which is more or less what the modern English term has come to mean. It's an easy enough linguistic development though. IacobusAmor 03:21, 20 Iunii 2008 (UTC)

text: :Liber anni 1828 (Google Books)

text: :http://staff.science.uva.nl/~bloewe/2005-06-I/2005-CL-L6.pdf
replies: text: ::--Rafaelgarcia 02:30, 20 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Attestationes?
Disputatio:Ialuit

message: UV, rectificavisti nexum ab "Jaluit" ad "Jaluit (atolu)," sed puto lemma melius esse hoc. Cur praefers illum? Similiter Kwajalein et octingenti quadraginta septem alia atolua! IacobusAmor 23:09, 21 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Redirectionem duplicem rectificavi, quia Ialuit redirexit ad Jaluit et Jaluit redirexit ad Jaluit (atolu). Tu ipse paginam bis movisti, vide []. Si putas alium lemma melius esse, libenter paginam iterum move! --UV 23:55, 21 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Scripsi "Jaluit (atolu)" quia usor ignotus 88.19.13.147 in Insulae Marsalienses scripserat permulta formae "Nomen (atolu)" exempla, sed puto eum erravisse et solum "Nomen" esse optimum, sicut Cuba, non "Cuba (insula)," et Nova Guinea, non "Nova Guinea (insula)." IacobusAmor 03:23, 22 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :: Bene, libenter paginam move ad nomen melius! --UV 10:25, 22 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Sed nunc usor Abigor rem ad Jaluit (atollum) movit. Puto verbum atollum hic non requisitum esse. Certe non sunt alia Jaluit—Jaluit atollum et Jaluit non-atollum? IacobusAmor 22:05, 29 Ianuarii 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: UV, rectificavisti nexum
Disputatio:Niortium

message: S'il existe des sources pour le nom "Novioritum", il faut en citer au moins un; puis, si ce nom est à préférer, on peut lui donner première place. Les émendations anonymes ont introduit une confusion; c'est pour cette raison que je les ai corrigées partiellement. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:32, 22 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Je vois que l'anonyme a ajouté des sources (sans se plier à notre format) ...
* 
* 
*

text: C'est ça, en effet, qu'il nous a fallu. Merci! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:42, 2 Iulii 2008 (UTC)
De rien. Le Niortium n'était pas connu des habitants de Niort, on l'a tojours connu sous le nom de Novioritum. Je trouvais dommage qu'il y est une erreur.
replies: text: :Alors je suis heureux que vous avez insisté! J'avais trouvé Niortium dans un source latin (d'origine allemande) que nous utilisons beaucoup: mais, assez souvent, comme dans ce cas, on trouve des traductions plus convaincantes ailleurs. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:10, 2 Iulii 2008 (UTC)
Oui j'ai remarqué qu'il y avait beaucoup d'erreur dans le nom des villes françaises. Pour le nom des villes le site
crehangec.free.fr/ est très fiable

text: Crehangec est un site qui n'a pas été réalisé un spécialiste et, surtout, par un très mauvais amateur, c'est mal sourcé, bourré d'erreurs et d'explications absolument invraisemblables. A proscrire absolument sur WP. Quant à Niortium, etc. il doit s'agir d'un exemple récurrent de latinisation médiévale à partir de la forme française. Nortmannus (disputatio) 12:08, 1 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Source

message: Mihi videtur "Novioritum" nomen restructum esse, sine fonte antiquo, ab antiquariis saec. XIX. Haec res hic confitetur Primus inventor fuit fortasse L. Fabre, editor Niortense, qui librum suum anno 1881 divulgavit. Eruditus Ledain (infra citatus), qui fere omnes fontes utiles anno 1902 recensuit (e.g. nomen verum Romanum Rauranum oppidi hinc haud longe distantis) de Noviorito nihil dicit: sed "Noiordo vico" citat (nomen loci incerti), quod nomen, secundum situm interretialem quem citavi supra, fons fuit inventionis nominis "Celtici" "Novioriti".
N.B. Non dico "Novioritum" formam falsam esse. Est fortasse vera, sed in fontibus non reperitur. Nomina talia restructa nobis citare ex operibus philologicis oportet, sed non in lemmata nostra promovere.
Igitur ad "Niortium" rursus movere suadeo. Anonymus supra hoc nomen nemini cognitum esse dixit, sed falso. Hofmannus non est solus; "Niorcium", "Niortium", "Nyortium" in documentis mediaevalibus reperiuntur. Vide enumerationem Ledain. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:14, 14 Septembris 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Liber Ledain est unus ex serie librorum qua in paginis aliorum communium usus sum et quam fontem credibilem habeo; motioni igitur ego quoque suffragor. Lesgles (disputatio) 17:23, 14 Septembris 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia latin est redevenu faussaire en changeant le nom de la ville. Comme d'habitude avec wikipedia
thread_title:  De novo de fontibus
Disputatio:Sampi

message: Possumus nomen "sampi" e textu Graeco citare? Ego non repperi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:28, 24 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Credo sampi nomen suum primum in temporibus Byzantinis accepisse. Iucundum tamen esset fontem citare posse, quamvis esset tardivum. Quidquid id est, nostrum usorem anonymum errare puto: huic symbolo numquam sonus respondebat, tantum numerus. Igitur sampi non est scribendum cum 'littera' sampi incipiens. Re vera multi credunt sampi derivatum esse e littera archaica san, quod denotavit sonum [s], at sampi ipsum numquam [s] denotavit. Id quoque respondere possumus illo usori qui vult Deum esse Alpha et Sampi: sampi numquam littera fuit - Omega fuit, est et erit ultima littera abecedarii Graeci. --Fabullus 12:54, 24 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
Vide etiam quae hic scripta sunt. --Fabullus 09:27, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citatio nominis
Disputatio:Malum paradisi

message: I moved to Citrus paradisi beause it is easier to search for and to type. The original name remains as a redirection. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 07:24, 25 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Afterwards I moved back again, for consistency, because we now have some other examples of Genus × species as headings. Personally I think alphanumeric headings, without any extra symbols, are preferable (but I don't feel strongly about it). See discussion in the Taberna. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:35, 24 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Titulus
Disputatio:Giraldus Cambrensis

message: I see that our bashful friend 79.32.55.73 has changed the title of Giraldus's work from Topographia Hibernica to Topographica Hiberniae. In this regard, the world's opinion concurs: the former term (when searched for as <"Topographia Hibernica" cambrensis>) gets 2000 Google-hits, but the latter term gets 2700. That the distribution of hits is so close, however, makes one wonder if the title is really Giraldus's. Was it instead bestowed after his time, reflecting variation that has suited the preferences of posterior generations? If so, Topographia Hibernica, the style using an adjective, might be the more classical way of putting it. IacobusAmor 11:58, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Our anonymous editor cites no source for the change. Well, I think I wrote this; I certainly had a source for Topographia Hibernica, and you have proved that such sources exist. Unless someone wants to come along and say "Modern research shows that Giraldus's preferred title was ...", with evidence, I think for grammatical reasons we should revert to the form we prefer. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:33, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: :Good point. In the absence of news from 79.32.55.73, you might as well go ahead and do it! IacobusAmor 12:42, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ::OK. My source (for all the book titles) was H. E. Butler's introduction to Giraldus's autobiography: the book is already cited on the page. 79.32.55.73, come and write a page about Topographia Hibernica! There'll be plenty of room on such a page for discussing alternative titles. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:51, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hibernica ~ Hiberniae

message: # It didn't work. It's good to leave pages looking better than before, not worse.
# It contained bad information (notably, unless I'm mistaken, a portrait that wasn't of the subject)
# Above all, infoboxes about pre-modern lives, and infoboxes about writers, offer uncertain and unverifiable information and make it look certain; they are therefore a Bad Thing for an encyclopedia. They encourage readers to believe that things are known when, in nearly every case, exploration and discussion is needed. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:53, 24 Februarii 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capsam removi quia ...