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Disputatio:Libido

message: Apud Augustinum (de grammatica: regulae, caput 3 de verbo) legimus:
"sunt alia perpauca, quae desiderativa dicuntur, ut esurio, id est edere desidero; parturio, parere desidero; et ut dictum est a Cicerone de philosophis, morturiunt, mori desiderant. Sed haec, ut dixi, pauca sunt, quae in sonum latinitatis introducta sunt." - Audeat fortasse aliquis, sicut parturitio a parturire et esuritio ab esurire formatae sunt, etiam ad verbum morturire substantivum commodum et sonum quendam latinum habens excogitare? --Bavarese (disputatio) 17:01, 6 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  De mortidine et destrudine 

message: Is it safe to assume that "gnavitatis" in the opening sentence is a typo? For "gravitatis", presumably? Toddcs (disputatio) 21:13, 6 Decembris 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an alternate spelling of navitas. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 21:17, 6 Decembris 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  gnavitatis?
Disputatio Formulae:Fossil range

message: I am redesigning the plant/animal taxobox. On many pages this includes a section "Palaeontologia" whose main feature is a coloured timeline. It has always been there (originally transferred from en:wiki by Secundus Zephyrus), originally near the top of the taxobox, now in a collapsing section at the bottom.
I have never "read" this timeline through all the years I saw it in the taxobox, but having studied the construction of it I do at last understand it. Do others ever "read" it? If so, it would be worth trying to update it; if not, maybe not.
It depends on conventional colours and single-letter abbreviations for the names of the geological periods. How many readers know the colours or can interpret the single-letter abbreviations?
If it is worth updating this timeline, one essential thing is to include links to the correct Latin names of the geological periods. At the time when it was designed, no one had found those Latin names. So all the pages have had to be moved. If the links are corrected, the colours on the timeline will be properly visible again ... But I don't understand the structure of this formula and I can't find where to insert the correct names. Can anyone help with that? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:39, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I have now corrected the links. Not sure whether it's worth keeping this template … Greetings, --UV (disputatio) 21:17, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :Yes, I think you have! It already looks much better. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:48, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: ::I didn't see it at first, but a further adjustment allows the information to appear in text form every time, as well as in the timeline diagram. This makes the whole thing more useful, I think, so I am fixing it. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:01, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: ::: Good, thank you! --UV (disputatio) 19:46, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Formula:Fossil range]] 

message: see Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor#Taxobox
thread_title:  on the usage of this template
Disputatio:Insulae (urbs Franciae)

message: I'm not sure whether to move to "Insulae" was the best option.  I put the "FD ref" because the initial title wasn't backed up by the source that was given, but now thanks to Andrew we know that the singular is attested, too.  Both French "Lille" (from "l'île" - the island) and Dutch "Rijsel" (from "ter ijsel" - on the island) are based on a singular, and I have a suspicion that the plural "Insulae" likewise is a reinterpetation of a genitive singular (urbs insulae).  The French wiki tells us that the name is due to the fact that the town was founded on an island in the river Deûle (just one, not several).  So, given that we have a source now, "Insula" might make more sense. Sigur (disputatio) 10:29, 6 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It was attested as Insulæ and Insula and Lila (in that order) in the year 1712. Also, the same page has: "Illa, Ella Fluvius. Lille." And some pages later we read: "Lila, Insulæ. Lille." IacobusAmor (disputatio) 11:40, 6 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :We had never bothered to look for citations at all. It might have been better to find more than one before moving! My initial impression is that the two choices are about equally popular, so I feel neutral. I notice that for the medieval philosopher the usual names are "Alanus ab Insulis" and "Alanus de Insulis": the singular variants are much more uncommon. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:16, 6 Octobris 2019 (UTC)

text: :PS -- I find Sigur's etymological suggestion (genitive or locative -ae being reinterpreted as plural) quite convincing. I have never seen the French name spelled Lilles or Lisles, and if there is a real plural at the root of this name you would expect to see that spelling sometimes. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:12, 6 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: ::I must say that I'm now tempted to let the philosopher tip the balance, too.  After all, I've chosen "Kempae" over "Kempena" elsewhere because of Thomas a Kempis.  Sigur (disputatio) 14:49, 6 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :::OK, Alain of Lille wins. I've moved the relevant categories. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:34, 9 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insula vel Insulae
Disputatio Categoriae:Mores humani

message: Mores hominum non solum humani, sed - quis nesciat? - etiam inhumani esse possunt. Ne mores "humani" simul etiam "inhumani" appellari debeant, puto aptius ad "Mores hominum" movendum esse. --17:19, 6 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mores humani?
Disputatio:Museum artis contemporaneae Castelli Montis Sorelli

message: La grammaire des noms latins nous impose un ordre différent du français. Il faut être clair, parce que le lecteur latin n'aura jamais vu ce nom auparavant, et que 99.9% des lecteurs internationaux ne savent rien ni de Montsoreau ni du musée. Ici nous parlons du musée: le château a son article ailleurs. Alors le mot "Museum" doit prendre premier lieu.
L'habitude de Vicipaedia avec les noms d'institutions culturelles -- et l'habitude des institutions culturelles qui se font un nom officiel latin -- est tout simplement de traduire le nom vernaculaire dans du bon latin. Dans ce cas, notre traduction serait "Museum artis contemporaneae Castelli Montis Sorelli" ... ou quelque chose comme ça ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:02, 9 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: J'ai fait la modification. Merci. Bien à toi, --Philippe49730 (disputatio) 14:48, 9 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movenda?
Disputatio Categoriae:Castellum Montis Sorelli - Museum Artis Contemporanea

message: Je ne sais pas si cette catégorie sera utile. Est-ce que nous aurons plusieurs pages sur le contenu du musée? Si oui, pas de souci. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:19, 9 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: En principe, il y a encore des pages à créer pour Art & Language, les différents artistes du collectif, et enfin, pour certaines oeuvres présentes dans le musée. En pratique, ce travail risque d'être très chronophage pour moi, même s'il est répétitif. Bien à toi, --Philippe49730 (disputatio) 14:16, 9 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :Pro Contemporanea fortasse melius hodiernae (scil artis)? Secundum Traupman, contemporaneus = 'aequalis', non 'hodiernus'; secundum Cassell's, = quod eodem tempore est. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:51, 9 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  An utilis?
Disputatio:Bernardus Houghton

message: Removed the following component from article, the published Alumni does not show this person, nor under Haughton, and it wouldn't work is up to 1860 only.
Bernardus Houghton fuit alumnus Collegii Trinitatis Eblanensis. Arrived (in India) 23 Nov 1885 and served in Madras as Assistant Collector and Magistrate; transferred to Burma as Assistant Commissioner August, 1886; Deputy Commissioner 1891; (As Deputy Commissioner, Sandoway he was commended for suppressing an uprising of rebels - see letter of 7th. October, 1890 from the Chief Commissioner) Burma Additional Session Judge April 1901; Commissioner May 1903; Officiating Commissioner of the Tenassererim Division, Moulmein, 1905. Commissioner of Arakan Division 1907. Transferred to Irrawaddy Division (based on Bassein) 1908). Retired November 1912.

message: * s:en:The Indian Biographical Dictionary (1915)/Houghton, Bernard
replies: text: Thanks for trying to verify and for the new source link above. It was high time to turn the hidden text into Latin (I mean, ten years ...) so I'll work on it later today. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:23, 10 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source
Disputatio:Telemetrum lasericum

message: Cur non mensor distantiae?--Bavarese (disputatio) 06:19, 11 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Ad telemetrum laser movit. - Donatello (disputatio) 16:53, 25 Novembris 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  distantius?
Disputatio:Archaeopteryx

message: Genus feminimum esse videtur (Archaeopteryx lithographica). --Alex1011 (disputatio) 19:14, 11 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Recte dicis. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:37, 12 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :Et casus genitivus esse videtur Archaeopterygis (non -icis) --Alex1011 (disputatio) 11:07, 12 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  genus 

message: Not seeing the cladus Avialae in the taxobox. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:09, 12 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You only get out of the taxobox what you put in. Avialae isn't currently there, so you don't see it. That's normal!

text: OK, I know, next question: how to put it in. This isn't obvious, because Avialae is an unranked clade and there are several unranked clades in sequence among the Ur-birds (cf. Eucotyledones ... Rosidae in botany).

text: *To deal with this independently in the Wikipedia taxobox (in English or any language) you have to note what useful named levels are nearest above and below, and place your desired clade between. In this case, I see from Fossilworks that Avialae is placed (at least by some) below an order Avetheropoda, parallel with an infraorder Oviraptorosauria, and above a family Archaeopterygidae. So we might take a stab at "unranked_superfamilia" or "unranked_infraordo".

text: *For speed, you can nearly always copy what the Spaniards have done. If you look at the taxobox on the pages :es:Avialae and :es:Archaeopteryx in the Spanish Wikipedia, you see the line
 | unranked_familia=  Avialae

text: *You can just copy that line into our page. I'll do it now and see what happens. [Pause 1 minute.] Yes, that worked. If there was some conflict meaning that the resulting order of displayed taxa was wrong, the solution would be to make it an unranked_ something else, as I suggested above, rather than an unranked_familia.

text: By the way, when wanting new taxoboxes for new articles, you can take them from the equivalent Spanish article almost 100% of the time. Practically nothing needs to be changed, except the image caption, which you would have to translate anyway. It's what I've been doing for years. The English ones always need more adjustment ... or, if they are "automatic taxoboxes", they are useless. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:48, 22 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :It's maybe worth adding a design point. Currently, in my revised design, the traditional Linnaean clades are titled "Familia" (etc.) while unranked clades are given no title. I personally prefer not to multiply uninformative words. But if you feel that the word "Cladus" would fill a yawning gap, it would be easy to add it in all such cases. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:14, 22 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Cladus
Disputatio:Res gestae (Ammianus)

message: Credo hanc paginam contribuendam esse quod nulla nova addit paginae Ammiani Marcellini. Ammianus tantum Rerum gestarum libros scripsit, ergo pagina operis huius non opus est. Omnia quae dicere oportet de opere Ammani in pagina scriptoris dici potest, ut res non duplicentur. Vicipaedia Anglica vel Germanica duas paginas non habent, sed modo paginam Ammiani. --Spurius Minucius (disputatio) 20:33, 13 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Nemo disputavit. Hodie autem, pagina satis longa, bona bibliographia subiecta, rationem contributionis duarum paginarum aegre accipio. Vicipaedia Anglica hodie paginas separatas habet. Ergo formulam removeo. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:43, 30 Decembris 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Pagina contribuenda
Disputatio:Lava

message: I just restored the lemma rhyax, which an anonymous editor deleted without explanation—oddly, they left the citation intact. While I'm at it, though, is there any reason for Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok to get its own footnote, rather than being listed as a third entry in the first one (after Serao and Egger)? --Iustinus (disputatio) 01:46, 14 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations
Disputatio:Haskell

message: Cum vocabulum "utor" ablativum ducat, meliorem esse sententiam "utitur typis fortibus" puto. Fuszenecker (disputatio) 16:56, 18 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Verba correxi, gratias tibi ago. Tu quoque talia vitia emendare potes, noli haesitare! Lesgles (disputatio) 21:02, 19 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
Libenter, amice, gratias tibi ago :) Fuszenecker (disputatio) 16:44, 5 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Utor cum ablativo.
Disputatio:Miles mercennarius

message: Both Cassell's and Traupman list mercennarius (with mercenarius as an alternative spelling) in their Latin-to-English sections, but only mercenarius in their English-to-Latin sections. L&S prefer mercenarius, but add "in old MSS. written mercennarius." IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:22, 20 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: We often see Cassell's and Traupman cited as independent sources, supporting one another. This scrap of evidence is a hint that one copied from the other. But, after all, the makers of dictionaries often do. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:48, 20 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :Possibly, though we can't be sure. Additional datapoints: Ainsworth's dictionary has only the one-en form, and Merriam-Webster's etymologists derive English mercenary from Latin mercenarius, not mercennarius. Also, The White Latin Dictionary (Chicago: Follett Publishing Company, 1938) goes the other way, listing mercenarius as the preferred form and parenthesizing mercennarius as an alternative, and in its English-to-Latin section lists only mercenarius, attributed to Livy. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 19:26, 20 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: ::According to The White Latin Dictionary, the origin of the word is merced- + -arius, and wouldn't that concede the better claim to the one-en form? Or is that a false etymology? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 19:26, 20 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :::I had never heard of the White Latin Dictionary, I must admit. I don't have an etymological dictionary of Latin but I think the brief etymologies in the Oxford Latin Dictionary are respectable. Its etymology here supports your source but not your inference!
replies: text: ::::< *mercedinarius = MERCES (or *mercedo, cf. mercedonius) + -ARIUS

text: :::Its preferred spelling for the word is MERCENNARIUS. I think one could see how the two earlier consonants, d and n, might be represented by -nn-. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:57, 20 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::White's mercedarius doesn't have your -in- infix, so it doesn't have a dn available to become nn, and all we've got is eda to become ena. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 02:34, 21 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::The OLD also has mercēdārius, but with a different definition, irrelevant here: "(apparently) A person who provides a person with an income." As for mercennarius, double n is also more common on PHI Latin Texts: mercennari- (98 results) vs. mercenari- (3). Lesgles (disputatio) 03:27, 21 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Attestations explained
Disputatio:Joker (pellicula 2019)

message: quid est latinus titulus huius taeniolae? “Joker”? “Iocer”? “Balatro”? GCool1015 (disputatio) 19:44, 23 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The title stays in English until a Latin translation can be cited from a reliable source. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:28, 23 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  latinus titulus
Disputatio:Tachyon

message: Scribamusne haec duo nomina littera -i- aut -y-: tach?on, brad?on? Quid putant peritiores? ---Bavarese (disputatio) 13:19, 24 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Littera Graeca -ύ- in Latinam -y- converti solet. Rescripsi igitur. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:14, 4 Ianuarii 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  -ion aut -yon?
Disputatio:Museum Pratense

message: De hac re anno 2011 disputavimus (vide hic). Eo aevo antiquo "Museum Pratense" sicut simplicem nominis Hispanici versionem Latinam, sine fonte externo, proposui. Hodie autem constat Latinistas Matritenses et Barcinonenses eo nomine re vera uti: vide "De Caelo Latinitiatis cursu" et "Visites pel Museo del Prado en llatí". Qua ratione rursus hunc titulum suadeo. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:53, 25 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  De nomine
Disputatio:GATE

message: GATE?
Actio mundialis aequalitati transgenerae fovendae?
Actio mundialis aequalitati trans* fovendae?
Actio mundialis pro aequalitate transgenera?
...?
Sigur (disputatio) 20:35, 25 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lemma
Disputatio:Demeter

message: Habemusne fontem (extravicipaedianum) genetivi Demetris?--Bavarese (disputatio) 18:36, 29 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Non video. Georges: Ausführliches lateinisch-deutsches Handwörterbuch  genetivum "Demetros" habet. Sigur (disputatio) 18:53, 29 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :Scriptores quidem classici eam Cererem appellabant, sed "Dēmētēr, -trŏs" reperio apud Gaffiot, qui ad CIL 10, 3685 ("AEDEM DEMETROS") refert. Demetris autem in nonnullis libris recentibus reperitur. Lesgles (disputatio) 19:13, 29 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Gratias vobis! Etiam ego in dictionariis solum hunc genetivum secundum declinationem nominis Graeci lego. --Bavarese (disputatio) 20:41, 29 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  De genetivo
Disputatio:Genus non binarium

message: I think that the title and main lemma should be "Genus non binarium" as straightforward translation of a vernacular expression (And we might want to add ).  I don't see "nonbinarius" used as one word anywhere.  The few occurrences I've found in Google Books all turned out to be scanning errors; so I think it should be "non binarius".  I have found "imbinarius" (see source given in the text), but that is one source and we have to assume that it's someone who has made it up and tries to put the "memum interretiale" (as they honestly call it themself) into circulation.  Nice enough for a mention, but perhaps not good enough to be the title. Sigur (disputatio) 21:38, 30 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think you should move to "genus non binarium" unless anyone else comments. I'm a novice in this field, but "genus neutrum" seems to cover only some of the possibilities that people intend by non-binary, so it may be better to delete "genus neutrum" as an alternative lemma. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:53, 31 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :I know at least one Latin-speaking nonbinary person, and they refer to themself as a 'homo neuter.' But that's OR I guess.Temerarius (disputatio) 18:23, 3 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: ::OR, yes, but you might want to ask that person for other sources; one never knows... As to "homo neuter", I suspect that that rather corresponds to neutrois. Sure some people will call themselves like that, but that doesn't mean you can simply equate it with "non-binary" which is more of an umbrella term that covers at least "neither" (for which "neuter" sounds OK) and "both" (for which it does not).  Sigur (disputatio) 18:46, 3 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lemma
Disputatio:Dies internationalis hominum qui abierunt

message: Mutationem  proximam factam haud probabilem esse iudico. Disparere verbum intransitivum est. Sicut ergo nemo disparetur, sed disparet, ita, ut ego quidem puto, nemo disparitus esse potest, sed disparuit. --Bavarese (disputatio) 16:26, 31 Octobris 2019 (UTC) 
--Bavarese (disputatio) 16:26, 31 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Verbum "exstinctus" in errorem inducere censeo. "Disparitus" non solum in Victionario eo sensu video, sed etiam aliter. Sed maiori scientiae libenter cedam. Sigur (disputatio) 16:54, 31 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :(Pauca addo, quae iam prius scripsi quam pagina mota est.) Maiorem scientiam mihi non affirmo; sumus omnes servi modesti linguae amatae. (Et 'servi' etiam eo sensu, quo magistrum Almae Matris meae, et peritissimum quidem rerum Latinarum, olim audivi dicere: "Machen wir uns doch nichts vor! Noch Ciceros beschränkteste Dienstmagd hatte von Latein mehr Ahnung als wir alle miteinander.")--Bavarese (disputatio) 17:28, 31 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  exstinctus/disparitus
Disputatio:Mons Fuji

message: :"Figenoiama": , Historiarum Indicarum libri XVI (1637) ; eadem fere res, "Japonia" in 
Hanc notam dubitanter subiunxi, sed re vera "Figenoiama" est alia mons, fortasse :en:Mount Hiei. Nomen Latinum montis Fuji non reperio, sed adiectivum biologicum "Fujiensis" exstat. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:12, 1 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomen
Disputatio:Cochlear (instrumentum)

message: An melius "coclear"? Ita dicunt Lewis & Short:
replies: text: cŏclĕar (cochl-), āris (cŏclĕārĭ-um, ii, Scrib. Comp. 122; 96; Cels. 3, 22; cŏclĕāre, is, Mart. 8, 71, 10; 8, 14, 121; and coclĕārumAn "coclearium"? Verificare non possum, i, Plin. 20, 22, 89, § 242), n. coclea, of the form of a snail-shell. I. spoon, Mart. l. l.; Cels. 6, 14; Plin. 28, 2, 4, § 19; Petr. 33, 6 al.—As a measure for liquids, esp. in medicine, a spoonful, = half a cheme or 1/144 of a cotyla, Rhem. Fann. Pond.; Col. 12, 21, 3; Plin. 23, 4, 38, § 76; 27, 4, 5, § 17, and the above passages with coclearium.
Aliae significationes non dantur. Ergo "coclear" sine verbo discretivo hic, et, si paginam aliam de mensura creare volumus, ibi "coclear (mensura)" propono. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:04, 27 Augusti 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: :
thread_title:  De titulo
Disputatio:Sensus vitae

message: Dubito, utrum voci sensus ea significatio sit, de qua hoc loco dicatur. Fortasse destinatum vel destinatio vel finis vel ...? --Bavarese (disputatio) 07:04, 5 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Hic est commentarius a LilyKitty nostrá primum conscriptus, cuius lemma Anglicum est "Meaning of life." Secundum Cassell's, vocabulum meaning (1) est "purpose, aim" [h.e., ut opinor, finis, propositum] et (2) "signification," Latine significatio, vis, sententia, sensus, notio, sed "often to be rendered by verb." Secundum autem Traupman, nihil nisi sensus et significatio. Egomet lemma significatio vitae scripserim, quia inter Angloloquentes hodiernos, "meaning" paene semper est 'significatio', et quaestio "What's the meaning of life?" paene semper est 'Quid significat vita?" IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:08, 5 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: :Primum verbum "sensus" utor sensu significatio, tamen "Meaning of life" et finis teleologiae vel destinationis includere potest. Tamen distinctio inter "sensus" et "significatio" mihi difficilis est. --LilyKitty (disputatio) 18:42, 5 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sensus?
Disputatio:Siculi (gens Hungarica)

message: Pagina recte mota est ("Siculi" enim fuerunt etiam gens Siciliae). An melius "Siculi (gens Transsilvaniae)"? "Hungarica" sensu ethnologico et linguistico certe verum est, sed sensu geographico hoc nomen disputationem historicam inutile fortasse evocat. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:29, 6 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Incertus eram; consentio, fortasse "Siculi (gens Transsilvaniae)" melius est. Lesgles (disputatio) 18:19, 6 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titulus
Disputatio:Nyx et Hemera

message: Nexum ad Vicidata haec pagina habet, ergo formulam nexus absunt delevi. Sed cum Vicipaedia Latina sola commentationem duplicem de duabus deis habet, nexus interviciales non monstrantur. Num dividendum sit, nescio; auctor anonymus versuum Hesiodicorum causa hoc fecit, et non inepte. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 23:34, 6 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: De Vicidatis