Gotûbêj:Destpêk/kevin/Arşîva 1

message: Pêşniyara min ji "Main page" re Destpêk e. hem pirmana ye hem jî kurdî ye u ne taybet bi zaravek e. Diyako 15:23, 5 Berfanbar 2005 (UTC)
tu na pelge pak kerda? mi de lona naye
Dersimij:
li gora te kurdi ciye??? ez bawerim kurmanciye! le ez zazame u ji ber ve yeke zazaki diaxivim. kurdi ne zimane homogene, zimaneke bi avahiya zaravaye. ji sewas heta kermanshani em nezik 7 zarav dipeyivin. sorani ji zimane kurdiye. hevalek min heye, kurmanci diaxive. u hevalek wi heye sorani diaxive. carek min je re pirs kir "hun cawa xeber didin, hun bi hevdu fam dikin?" bersiva wi ewe: "ew niha kurdi qise dike, fere zimane kurdi buye". yani zimani wiye sorani, ne bi kurdi dibine. ev xetayeke heri mezine. EM BI GISTI KURDIN; BI HEMU ZARAV!!!
Xorte Cewlig
Silav hevalan, ez ji zazaki zanim. le em di malbata xwe da him kurmonci u him ji zazaki diaxifin. lebele bi pirani zazaki. carcaran ji, em qise kirina zaravan tevlihev dikin. ez bixwazim ku tisteki dibejim. ti ferq nake ku ki kijan ziman dipeyve u kijan ziman ango zarav bi pirani te axaftin. herkes dizane, em kurdin. u zimane me kurdiye. dive em bi vi avahi bicin pes.
Ez herkes re selame xo dan. Ma kurden zazame.
EZ TEVLI NADIBIM JI BER KU; BI TENE EM KURMANC KURDIN! YEN DIN NE KURDIN!
thread_title: Main Page

message: Kürtçe wiki çok güzel olmuş. tebrik ederim. Kürtçe öğeten bir site var mı? Kusura bakmayın nerde yazacağımı bilmediğim için burada yazıyorum.
saygılarımla
Hakperest
thread_title:  sağ olun 

message: Hevalên hêja niha divê ez ji înternetê derkevim min kategoriyek bi navê Cihên Dîrokî di bin kategoriyên Erdnîgarî û Dîrokê de vekkir. Hêvîdarim tiştek şaş nebe. Niha divê ez derkevim di vê malperê de gotarên delal derbarê cihên dîrokî yên Cizîra Botan hene eger hevalek karibi tevlî wîkîpedîa bike ezê kêfxweşbim. Bimînin di xweşiyê de.
http://www.bedirxani.com/kr/cizre/cihendiroki/index.htm
replies: text: Ev malpera te ye? Destur heye? --Erdal Ronahi 20:06, 28 Rêbendan 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ji bo hevalên edîtor 

message: Sorry for English
In English Wikipedia they show the cartoon about Mohammed. As you know that is forbidden in Islam. Now it is voted, please vote this article. 
replies: text: en:Talk:Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
Türkçe bilen arkadaşlar için de yazıyorum İngilizce Vikipedi'de  Hz.Muhammed hakkındaki karikatürlerin resimlerini gösteriyorlar. Bildiğiniz gibi bu İslama hakarettir ve İslami açıdan yasaktır. Şu anda bu durum oylmaya sunulmuş bulunmaktadır. Lütfen oy kullanalalım

text: en:Talk:Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
Ruzgar
thread_title:  Islam 

message: روبی
thread_title:  روبی 

message: Silav.
Daxwaziyeki min ji hemû editörên hêja heye: Ji kerema xwe dema gotareke dinivîsin lînkên bi zimanên din ji bîr neken, ew yeke gellek giring e. Gellek kes ji rêka wan lînkan ve re dikarin ji wikiyên bi zimanên din re tekstan vergerrînin kurdî, u gotarê mezintir bikin.
Spas ji bo tevkariyên we.
Diyako Talk + 14:59, 19 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Interwiki

message: The number of articles in different languages are grown and the template in the Main Page which shows that should be updated. For example Persian and Arabic have more than ten thousand articles now.
Regards,
--Mani1 23:23, 23 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Updating main page

message: Hi, i am even a zazaki-speaking kurd. And im strong against, that the zaza-kurds splitting them from the other kurds. Please give here your opionion and say "Oppose". Thank you my brothers!
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages#Zazaki_.2816_Support.2C_6_Oppose.2C_3_Neutral.29
--Dêrsimî 18:29, 27 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Against a separate Zaza Wikipedia! 

message: Hi, as already said, im a Zaza-Kurd. Please make in the home-site a own box in the dialect Zazaki, so that the wikipedia responsible persons see, that zaza-kurds are not disadvantaged! And thus the divisors no more arguments have! Thank you brothers! Sipas! --Dêrsimî 18:34, 27 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
=== Thank you! ===
http://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/Şablon:Şima_xêr_amê
--Dêrsimî 10:40, 28 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
=== Mission terminates ;-)  ===
Now the box is finish, thank youu very much for the cooperation my brothers!! SIPAS!! --Dêrsimî 16:21, 28 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::::Thank you very much u gelek sipas!
replies: text: :::::::Diyako Talk + 17:02, 28 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wee need a own welcome box in Zazaki! 

message: http://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/Şablon:Şima_xêr_amê
--Dêrsimî 10:40, 28 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thank you! 

message: Now the box is finish, thank youu very much for the cooperation my brothers!! SIPAS!! --Dêrsimî 16:21, 28 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::::Thank you very much u gelek sipas!
replies: text: :::::::Diyako Talk + 17:02, 28 reşemî 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mission terminates ;-)  

message: Why is this wikipedia only in Latin Alphabet?  Why not both Arabic and Latin?--68.170.86.111 21:54, 29 avrêl 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is in both alphabets, but there are few articles in the Arabic alphabet. You can find them here:  --Erdal Ronahi 11:02, 30 avrêl 2006 (UTC)
But all the messages and templates are always using the latin Alphabet.--68.170.86.111 20:56, 7 gulan 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, but that is not intended. Please add arabic script to the templates or create new ones. We are also working on a way to switch between two interfaces, one will be using the arabic script. But we will need more support from Sorani-speaking Kurds for that. --Erdal Ronahi 01:02, 8 gulan 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Well, hopefully the other Kurds will help you out.  Good luck. :)--68.170.86.111 20:36, 8 gulan 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic Alphabet (Sorry For English I don't know Kurdish) 

message: Gelo miroj Çawa bikaribe zaraveyen kurdî, nezike hev du bine ji bo ku kurd ji hev daha rind fem bikin...
mesela di şuna niha<<da >>>nika daha bi hazaran peyve aha hen mirov wana bikarime dixe nav zareven Kurmanci wiçaxe Kurmanci dibe zimaneki ji bo hamu kurdan
thread_title:  nezikitiya Zaraveyen Kurdî 

message: As a speaker of Zazaki, I condemn you guys for mispresenting my language. The box is written with a lot of Kurmanci words. Who the f**k uses "bi xer amey" in Zazaki and other kurmanci words. Go correct them or go hell. --The Zaza 04:58, 13 pûşper 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to make construcive changes yourself. As far as I know, "xêr" is neither Kurmancî or Zazakî, but Arabic. --Erdal Ronahi 06:21, 13 pûşper 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: :Are you kidding me dude? You undoubtly know that I'm not talking about "xêr." You guys purposely changed the first sentence from "Şima xêr amêy" to "Bi xêr amêy" with ill intentions. I am not even talking about other non-Zazaki words in the Zazaki box and I think you are not honest. --The Zaza 07:29, 14 pûşper 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Change it yourself and please stop to suggest ill intentions. I don't have any. --Erdal Ronahi 09:02, 14 pûşper 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Zazaki Box

message: Hevalên hêja min doh çend albûmên Şivan Perwer tevlî Wîkîpediyayê kir min van albûman xist kategoriya bi navê Albûm lê min dît kategoriyek jî bi navê Album hebû min li malperên kurdî nerî li wir jî bo peyva albûm tiştek teqez tunne bû. Hetta di hîn malperan de weke Albom hatibû binavkirin. Gello pêşniyara we çi ye, ez kîjan bikarbînim. Silav û hurmet RewşenBaran
thread_title:  Albûm an Album yan jî tiştekî din? 

message: Hêjayan!
Niha Wîkîferhenga kurdî bûye zêdeyî 20 000 rûpel, nêzî 21 hezar!
Hêvîdar im beşê wê yê li rûpelê destpêkê yê Wîkîpedyayê serwext bike.
Herwiha hêviya hevkariyê ji we hemûyan dixwazin.
Silavên birayane
--Zanistvan 17:57, 1 kewçêr 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wîkîferheng zêdeyî 20 000 rûpelan

message: The zazaish Wikipedia is finished:
http://diq.wikipedia.org/wiki/
You can delete the redundantly "Zazaish Welcome Box" on the front page.
--Dêrsimî 13:19, 4 kewçêr 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody has lost; we all won. This way is better for Zazaki, and we showed that we could serve better to Zazaki speakers. Wikipedia is not the place where we set up countries or break them. Wikipedia is a cultural project. Please don't think in the small box of "nationalism." Nationalism brings more harm than goodness for humanity and culture. But, I am sure Zazaki Wikipedia will bring more goodness than harm. So, come and help us to build a real encyclopedia in our beautiful Zazaki. --Maviulke12 06:29, 5 kewçêr 2006 (UTC)
If Zazaki gets a wiki, shouldn't also Sorani?
thread_title:  We have losed 

message: Why you use a f.... arabic alphabet in a online encyclopedia and this for Soranî? We sorans decided to change over sorani to latin the alphabet in Northern Iraq! Also: Please make here a VERSION of Sorani with LATIN Alphabet! You do not have to delete the arabic version of sorani! I mean, we must create one latin version of sorani parallel! Let us with the welcome box begin! Please translate the text in arabic alphabet to latin alphabet and create a second welcome box for Sorani in Latin! We would have place for it if we delete the-zazaki box. It is redundantly, because it existed a own Zazaki Wikipedia! Thank you! --Soran 12:18, 28 kewçêr 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Kurdish Wikipedia will contain exactly as many articles in Sorani with latin script as users write. Write articles, and you will have articles. A tool to help with the conversion is also at http://tools.ferheng.org/arablatin.php --Erdal Ronahi 19:06, 28 kewçêr 2006 (UTC)
"We sorans decided to change over sorani to latin the alphabet in Northern Iraq!"
What are you talking abuot?  They still use Arabic alphabet there.  See the Iraqi Kurdistan regional government site: http://www.krg.org/ --69.174.253.25 21:34, 28 kewçêr 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need latin Alphabet for Soranî! 

message: Here is a Kurdish Arabic -> to Latin converter
http://tools.ferheng.org/arablatin.php
--Soran 17:34, 28 kewçêr 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, I didn't see that ;) --Erdal Ronahi 19:06, 28 kewçêr 2006 (UTC)
Heres a Latin -> Arabic converter. http://www.namonet.com/latin2arabic.asp --69.174.253.25 21:54, 28 kewçêr 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kurdish Arabic -> to Latin converter 

message: Hi hevals, Let's not use the Arabic script. majority of Kurds from all parts of Kurdistan 
are familiar with latin script which is actually almost an international script in whole of the world. Today while there are remarkable steps by Government of Kurdistan to change the script to Latin why should we insist on using the old Arabic script and even try create templates for that? Anyways whatever are the scripts for Kurdish we need a single common script for all Kurds and it can be nothing but latin script. I've never met a Soran Kurd who cannot read latin script. Especially the ones who have access to internet and can use wikipedia certainly are fluent in reading latin script.
Another point is the wrong and false translation of wikimedia codes in Kurdish. I mean the ones above every article namely Article, discussion, edit, history. => These should be written only in one script and use correct equivalents.   Kurdewari 22:28, 18 sermawez 2006 (UTC)
ru:
ru-sib:
uk:
thread_title: Kurdish script

message: Тестируем возможности Вики. 87.240.15.6 20:38, 15 Berfanbar 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Проверка нафиг! 

message: Armanc bikaranîn û bipêşxistina hemî ziman an zaraveyên Kurdî ne. Bila wîkî bi Zazakî jî hebe, ev ne şaş e. Sibê dikare Soranî jî hebe. Lê li vir mirov dibîne ku Zazakî tê îgnorekirin. Ma Zazakî ne Kurdî ye? Ma Dimilkî ne di xetereya tunebûnê de ye?
Li hin kesên ku teorî û fantazyayên dijmin propaganda dikin nenêrin. Daxwaza wan kesan ne bipêşxistina Dimilkî lê parçekirina neteweya Kurd e. Ew dê berê parçe bikin, paşê jî bi dijmin ve bidin girêdan. Lê ew kesana tenê li Ewropa û di înternetê de dijîn. Gel û jiyan tişteke din e. Zanîstî û polîtîka bi hevre nameşe û dê van kesên beredayî jî hêdî hêdî li xwe mikur werin.
Hema bila bixêrhatina bi Dimilkî bimaya. Ma kê dikare Dimilkî û Dimilkîaxêvan ji yên din biqetîne? Çima li BOX a Kirmanckî êdî nîne? Kê dixwaze li kîderê binivîse, bila binivîse. Lê dema mirov behsa zimanê yan zimanên Kurdî kir, mirov nikare zarave yan zimaneke Kurdî îgnore bike. Rûpela serî girîng e, kesayetiya ensîklopediyê nîşan dide.
--Bablekan 08:43, 8 Rêbendan 2007 (UTC)
=== Zazaki is not kurdish ===
See also here:
http://erani.freehost.ag/erani.htm
--Bolend 21:48, 20 reşemî 2007 (UTC)
Prima, you are Linguist and you can not speak Kurmancî or Kirmanckî (Zazakî). And you dont know our language. And i can not English too. But, Kurdistan not free and have 4 enemy (Iran, Syria, Turkey and old-world. Our enemy, enemy to our Language too. Understand? And Zaza people say "We are Kurdish". Since 83 years Turkish Militar Republic want zaza, soran und kurmanc divided. And we are not Iddiot:) Selam to Mullahs which eat Greens. --Bablekan 07:00, 21 reşemî 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Neither Zazaki is a Kurdish dialect, nor Zazas are kurds. We don't understand anything in Kurdish. What you say is totally wrong. You guys are using the same tactics that the Turkish government had been using. I am really sick of it. 
http://www.zazaki.de/englisch/articels/dimili-asatrian-iranica.pdf
http://www.zazaki.de/englisch/articels/Paul-1998-Zaza.pdf
http://www.zazaki.de/deutsch/stammbaumiranischesprachen-geradlinig.htm
--Xosere 15:02, 27 reşemî 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BOX a Kirmanckî (Dimilî, Kirdkî, Ginî, Zazakî) çima hate derxistin? 

message: See also here:
http://erani.freehost.ag/erani.htm
--Bolend 21:48, 20 reşemî 2007 (UTC)
Prima, you are Linguist and you can not speak Kurmancî or Kirmanckî (Zazakî). And you dont know our language. And i can not English too. But, Kurdistan not free and have 4 enemy (Iran, Syria, Turkey and old-world. Our enemy, enemy to our Language too. Understand? And Zaza people say "We are Kurdish". Since 83 years Turkish Militar Republic want zaza, soran und kurmanc divided. And we are not Iddiot:) Selam to Mullahs which eat Greens. --Bablekan 07:00, 21 reşemî 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Neither Zazaki is a Kurdish dialect, nor Zazas are kurds. We don't understand anything in Kurdish. What you say is totally wrong. You guys are using the same tactics that the Turkish government had been using. I am really sick of it. 
http://www.zazaki.de/englisch/articels/dimili-asatrian-iranica.pdf
http://www.zazaki.de/englisch/articels/Paul-1998-Zaza.pdf
http://www.zazaki.de/deutsch/stammbaumiranischesprachen-geradlinig.htm
--Xosere 15:02, 27 reşemî 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zazaki is not kurdish 

message: Hevalno, ez wesa dibînim ko em di "Destpêk"ê da li şûna peyva "nivîsbar" ko ez bawerim ji Tirkîyê hatîye kurdandin, peyva "nerimalav" bikarbiînin. Hun çi difikirin?
replies: text: Li gorî min jî "nerimalav" rasttire, lê "nivîsbarî" îro gelek tê bikaranîn. Li Google bigere: Nivîsbarî: 3300, Nerimalav: 5 --Erdal Ronahi 16:42, 19 Rêbendan 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nerimalav li şûna Nivîsbarî