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message: @Nyilvoskt bisa bawakan screenshot dari sumber yg mengatakan:
“karena meninggalkan rumahnya yang bertentangan dengan instruksi Qur'an untuk janda-janda Muhammad.”? 
Saya periksa sumbernya, alasan Ali memarahi Aisyah hanya karena kerusakan yg dia perbuat, dan tidak ada kata2 seperti di atas. Ilham Syafii (bicara) 21 Maret 2023 11.43 (UTC)
replies: text: @Ilham Syafii Maaf bung jika saya telat membalas. Baiklah, saya akan mengirimkan kutipan karena screenshot mungkin tidak akan efisien. Per referensi di bagian kedua akhir kalimat tersebut, saya rasa bung Fazoffic menginterpretasikan "[O wives of the Prophet!] Stay in your houses and do not display your finery with the display of the former [days of] ignorance. Maintain the prayer and pay almsgiving and obey Allah and His Apostle..." sebagai "meninggalkan rumahnya mereka? ["O wives of the Prophet" dapat diartikan sebagai istri-istri Muhammad (mungkin sebaiknya digantikan dengan "istri-istri")]." Selain itu per Rogerson 2006:297 dan Mandelung 2018:173, Ali berkata bahwa "[ini] memanglah Humayra Iram" [Surely this is Humayra of Iram] saat memanggil ybs. dan dalam Rogerson 2006:297 dijelaskan bahwa "Iram" merupakan sebuah tasik yang hancur di masa lampau karena salah satu dari anggota/penduduknya tidak mengikuti perintah yang ada.  21 Maret 2023 12.29 (UTC)
replies: text: :Maaf, @Nyilvoskt. Itu memang ayat Quran, tapi tidak dikatakan di sumber manapun, kalau alasan Ali memarahi Aisyah salah satunya karena dia melanggar ayat tsb sebab telah keluar rumah.

text: :Humayra of Iram itu sebutan untuk Aisyah oleh Ali ketika Ali berbicara tentangnya:

text: :“Surely, this Humayra of Iram wanted to kill me as she killed Uthman b. Affan”

text: : artinya : “si Humayra dari Iram ini memang benar-benar pengen membunuhku sebagaimana dia telah membunuh Utsman bin Affan”

text: :Saya rasa itu tidak ada korelasinya dgn kalimat bermasalah yg saya kutip sebelumnya di atas. Ilham Syafii (bicara) 21 Maret 2023 13.01 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Baiklah jika demikian bung, untuk sementara bisa dihilangkan dikarenakan sumber yang dicantumkan tidak secara jelas menggambarkan hal yang demikian, dan sepertinya juga sedikit mengarah ke riset asli. Silahkan diteruskan bung, sekian.  21 Maret 2023 14.10 (UTC)
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message: Hello fellow editors,
I have found one or more external links on Pertempuran Jamal that are in need of attention. Please take a moment to review the links I found and correct them on the article if necessary. I found the following problems:
*https://quran.com/al-ahzab?locale=id&font=v1&reading=false&translations=134 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20230419052421/https://quran.com/al-ahzab?locale=id&font=v1&reading=false&translations=134 to the original URL.
*https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2724 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20230916230718/https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2724 to the original URL.
*https://sunnah.com/muslim:1691a is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20210720163437/https://sunnah.com/muslim:1691a to the original URL.
*https://sunnah.com/ahmad:55 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20221115071539/https://sunnah.com/ahmad:55 to the original URL.
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*https://sunnah.com/muslim:1636 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20230131202530/https://sunnah.com/muslim:1636 to the original URL.
*https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6830 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20230327141753/https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6830 to the original URL.
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*https://sunnah.com/nasai:3221 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20230928175751/https://sunnah.com/nasai:3221 to the original URL.
*https://i.ibb.co/7Q0KXLV/uthman-s-end.jpg is considered to be dead, however has been found to be alive. Recommend removing the dead flag from the URL.
*https://sunnah.com/muslim:2105 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20230613200905/https://sunnah.com/muslim:2105 to the original URL.
*https://sunnah.com/muslim:2113a is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20221229040328/https://sunnah.com/muslim:2113a to the original URL.
*https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ali-Muslim-caliph is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20150503180402/http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/15223/Ali to the original URL.
*http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/ali-b-abi-taleb is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20110429163734/http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/ali-b-abi-taleb to the original URL.
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Melaporkan kesalahan) 12 Oktober 2023 14.31 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links found that need fixing (Oktober 2023)