Pembicaraan:Generasi Z

message: Gen Z di Indonesia memakai pendapat kelahiran dari tahun 1997-2012 sesuai Data Resmi yang dipakai Badan Pusat Statistik Indonesia pada Sensus Penduduk 2020, karena berdasarkan perkembangan teknologi yang terjadi di Indonesia.  Hamuratachi (bicara) 13 November 2023 22.10 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia bukan badan pemerintah atau mewakili pemerintah sehingga harus menyesuaikan dengan pendapat resmi, apalagi di kalimat pembuka artikel. Jika ingin menuliskan pendapat BPS, dapat dicatumkan saja di sub-bagian Generasi Z di Indonesia. Rang Djambak (bicara) 14 November 2023 00.40 (UTC)
replies: text: :Tidak mengapa hal itu terjadi, karena inipun dalam subdomain Wikipedia Indonesia, agar terlihat lebih sesuai Hamuratachi (bicara) 14 November 2023 01.03 (UTC)

text: :Kemudian untuk lebih mudah memperjelas sehingga tidak mudah menimbulkan kebingungan ditengah masyakarat khususnya yang berapa di Indonesia Hamuratachi (bicara) 14 November 2023 01.05 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Jika demikian, alangkah lebih baiknya anda menambahkannya setelah kalimat "Para peneliti dan media populer menggunakan pertengahan hingga akhir tahun 1990-an sebagai tahun awal kelahiran dan awal tahun 2010-an sebagai tahun akhir kelahiran Gen Z" misalnya kalimat "Sedangkan di Indonesia.....", alih-alih menghapusnya. Karena umur demikian merupakan pendapat umum di dunia.Rang Djambak (bicara) 14 November 2023 01.07 (UTC)

text: ::Serta perhatikan juga gaya penulisan artikel di Wikipedia. Jika menggunakan kalimat pembuka yang anda gunakan sekarang, kemungkinan akan di beri tag rapikan, karena tidak sesuai dengan standar penulisan di Wikipedia. Rang Djambak (bicara) 14 November 2023 01.11 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Baik terima kasih atas sarannya, silakan bagi yang lebih berkompeten untuk menyuntingnya kembali. Namun alangkah baiknya memprioritaskan untuk tidak mencantumkan hal-hal yang dapat menimbulkan kebingungan dan pertentangan bagi masyarakat Indonesia awam.  Hamuratachi (bicara) 14 November 2023 01.19 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Untuk menghindari konflik suntingan lebih lanjut, bagaimana kalau kita diskusikan kalimat yang lebih baik untuk kalimat pembuka ini? Dengan solusi dua pihak, saya menyarankan kalimat berikut "Generasi Z (sering disingkat menjadi Gen Z), yang dalam bahasa sehari-hari dikenal sebagai zoomer, adalah kelompok demografis yang menggantikan Generasi Milenial dan sebelum Generasi Alfa. Para peneliti dan media populer menggunakan pertengahan hingga akhir tahun 1990-an sebagai tahun awal kelahiran dan awal tahun 2010-an sebagai tahun akhir kelahiran Gen Z. Sedangkan di Indonesia, menurut Badan Pusat Statistik, Gen Z merupakan orang-orang yang lahir antara tahun 1997-2012. Sebagian besar anggota Gen Z adalah anak dari Generasi X atau generasi Baby Boomer yang lebih muda". Bagaimana pendapat anda? Rang Djambak (bicara) 14 November 2023 01.24 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::untuk memudahkan tampilan kata atau kalimat dari algoritma search engine google setelah BPS, Gen Z menggunakan tambahan kata "Generasi Z" agar tampilan awal searching seperti berikut, dalam pengertian langsung menunjukkan rentang tahun yang dipakai di Indonesia. Menurut kami ini tentu lebih bagus dan bijak.  Hamuratachi (bicara) 14 November 2023 01.35 (UTC)

text: :::Adapun dalam skala global pun untuk rentang tahun kelahiran tidak ada pendapat yang pasti Hamuratachi (bicara) 14 November 2023 01.24 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::Setelah saya pelajari lebih lanjut, memang para ahli atau pun peneliti berbeda pendapat tentang rentang usia ini, yang dipengaruhi oleh sudut pandang yang dipakai. Untuk itu saya membuat alternatif kalimat menjadi "Para peneliti dan media populer menggunakan pertengahan hingga akhir tahun 1990-an sebagai tahun awal kelahiran dan awal tahun 2010-an sebagai tahun akhir kelahiran Gen Z. Sedangkan beberapa sumber lainnya memberikan rentang tahun tertentu yakni 1997–2012, walaupun rentang tahun tersebut terkadang diperdebatkan." Rang Djambak (bicara) 14 November 2023 01.53 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::Pada kalimat "masih diperdebatkan" dengan tahun yang tertera berikut itu sangat potensial menimbulkan kebingungan, apalagi merujuk tahun yang telah disepakati di Indonesia. Mohon untuk dimengerti. Bahkan banyak yang berpendapat rentang waktu sampai tahun 2015 bahkan 2017 yang sejatinya terlalu jauh dengan akhiran tahun 2010 yang telah disebutkan. Hamuratachi (bicara) 14 November 2023 02.14 (UTC)

text: :::::Mengingat ini masih dalam cakupan subdomain Wikipedia Indonesia Hamuratachi (bicara) 14 November 2023 02.21 (UTC)
replies: text: ::::::Itulah maksudnya bung. Terkadang masih diperdebatkan kapan tahun mulainya dan kapan berakhirnya. Dan sebenarnya ini dapat lebih dijelaskan di sub-bagian "Rentang waktu dan usia". Dan tentang subdomain Wikipedia Indonesia, saya pribadi memandang tidak ada keharusan, tetapi dapat saja, menjelaskan dari sisi Indonesia, dan dalam artikel Gen Z ini ada sub-bagian "Gen Z di Indonesia". Saya ingin mengundang pendapat lain dari bung @Fazoffic, @Badak Jawa atau pengguna lainnya. Rang Djambak (bicara) 14 November 2023 02.38 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::::sebenarnya bukan diperdebatkan pak, karena memang dalam perkembangan teknologi di setiap wilayah atau negara itu berbeda. Misal dalam hal ketersediaan Internet disejumlah benua, negara ataupun daerah. Hal inilah salah satu yang menjadi titik acuan paling penting dalam pengklasifikasian setiap generasi, karena pengaruhnya terhadap pola hidup, mindset, pengalaman, psikologi dan lain-lain pada masing-masing generasi. Terkhusus di Indonesia saja layanan Internet untuk masyarakat umum berawal pada tahun 1996, kemudian terbentuknya Badan Pengelola Internet Indonesia pada tahun 1997, maka di tahun inilah internet mengalami perkembangan yang signifikan. Untuk itu inilah yang menjadi salah satu sebab cocoknya awal tahun untuk generasi Z indonesia, apalagi di tahun 1998 zaman reformasi dalam hal politik pun berubah total. Jadi, setiap wilayah dalam pembagian penyebutan atau penamaan setiap generasi tidak mungkin sama.  Hamuratachi (bicara) 14 November 2023 04.37 (UTC)

text: :::::::@Rang Djambak maaf saya bukan ahlinya jadi tidak tahu juga tahun yang benarnya Badak Jawa (bicara) 14 November 2023 04.37 (UTC)
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