Pembicaraan:Saudagar Minangkabau

message: Beberapa info di artikel ini lebih kedengaran seperti opini yang bangga dengan kesaudagaran orang-orang minangkabau. Entah dari mana pernyataan tersebut dirujuk (contohnya yang menyatakan berdagang adalah sebuah kultur orang minang, itu pernyataan dari mana? ). Hariadhi - Ngobrol 18 Juni 2013 12.13 (UTC)
replies: text: Sebagian malah terdengar seperti orang yang ada kepentingan jadi seperti Konflik Kepentingan.-AldNonUcallin?♫☎☏♬ 28 Februari 2014 16.25 (UTC)
replies: text: :Dalam buku "Asal-usul Elite Minangkabau Modern" karya Elizabeth E. Graves (2007), pada Bab I; Alam Minangkabau dan Masyarakat Tradisional alinea kedua ditulis: Dengan demikian, Sumatera secara historis merupakan pulau dengan penduduk gemar berdagang dan dinamis, menjadi arena percaturan politik dunia internasional atau persaingan prestasi individual. Orang Minangkabau di Sumatera Barat khususnya adalah pewaris terhormat dari tradisi yang sudah sangat tua ini.

text: :Dari tulisan Elizabeth E. Graves itu bisa diambil kesimpulan bahwa tradisi perdagangan yang merupakan tradisi yang sangat tua itu sudah digemari dan dijalani oleh orang-orang Minang sejak berabad-abad yang lalu. --110.138.46.206 28 Februari 2014 18.32 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Lihat bagian Saudagar_Minangkabau#Restoran Sudah ada artikel utamanya di tempat lain "Artikel utama untuk bagian ini adalah: Restoran Padang", tapi tetap saja ditambahi box informasi restoran, justru di artikel Restoran Padang sendiri malah tidak ada box tersebut, ini tujuannya apa?, Ini bukan masalah sejarahnya tapi masalah kenapa artikel ini panjang sekali tapi berputar putar memuji A dan A, penulisan yang ensiklopedik mengikuti gaya Pisau Ockham bukan berputar putar, panjang bertele tele, cukup simpel, ambil bagian penting dari referensi, selesai.-AldNonUcallin?♫☎☏♬ 28 Februari 2014 21.51 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Saya rasa tidak ada yang salah dengan cara dan gaya penulisannya, hanya referensinya saja yang masih kurang. Tentang penambahan box informasi juga tidak salah dan tidak punya tujuan apa-apa selain sekadar informasi biasa. Kok artikelnya dibilang panjang sekali?, saya lihat juga tidak panjang-panjang amat, malah masih pendek menurut saya. Dikatakan berputar-putar memuji A dan A, maksudnya apa ya?, saya lihat tak ada yang dipuji, masih dalam jalur penyampaian informasi biasa. Artikel ini kurang referensi dan rujukan, hanya itu kekurangannya menurut saya. --110.138.44.23 1 Maret 2014 05.54 (UTC)
Pengaduan saya mencoba menambah tulisan di artikel Saudagar Minangkabau dan ada sumbernya namun dihapus oleh Jayrangkoto. Penulisana artikel wikipedia harus netral dan tidak dari sudut pandang tertentu. Artikel Minang di wikipedia banyak yang terlalu Minang sentris karena eksklusif penyuntingnya Jayrangkoto. Artikel wikipedia lain biasanya cenderung netral membahas suatu topik dari berbagai sudut pandang. Ada sisi negatif dan positif, ada kelebihan dan kelemahan, ada prestasi dan ada kritik. Jayrangkoto hanya mengunggulkan dari sisi positif.
Namun demikian dari segi kekayaan pengusaha Minang masih terbatas. Dalam daftar Forbes 50 dan Asia Globe 150 orang terkaya Indonesia didominasi pengusaha Tionghoa dan segelintir pengusaha pribumi dari Batak, Jawa, Sunda dan Sulawesi.http://www.forbes.com/indonesia-billionaires/list/#tab:overallhttp:///http://thejakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/archive/150-richest-indonesians-7/ Pengusaha Minang juga belum berhasil memajukan provinsi Sumbar yang ekonominya kecil hanya peringkat ke 12 di Indonesia.http://www.bps.go.id/linkTabelStatis/view/id/1622

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