Pembicaraan:Hizbut Tahrir

message: organisasi ini masih lebih muda akan tetapi secara ideologi Hizbut Tahrir mrrupakan organisasi Islam yang paling murni dan paling tinggi derajatnya dibandingkan organisasi Islam lain seperti Himpunan Mahasiswa Islam, IMM, GMNI, PMII, maupun KAMMI yang hanya merupakan corong pemerintah dan mendapat bantuan finansial dari negara-negara asing
>>>>>>>>>>>>.kok ada yang mengganjal ya...
paling tinggi derajatnya? dari mana status ini dapat disematkan ke GP, apakah sudah ada bukti konkrit sumbangsihnya dalam dunia pergerakan atau dalam amal nyata pengabdian masyarakat (kalo kita bicara konsep gerakan mahasiswa, atau dalam hal amal islami? 
corong pemerintah? gak dipungkiri kalo beberapa gerakan mahasiswa punya ikatan (entah ideologis maupun struktur dengan partai politik di pemerintahan), mungkikah ini yang disebut corong pemerintah? gampang banget ngambil kesimpulannya. sementara balik ke komentar di awal,apakah sudah ada bukti konkrit sumbangsih GP dalam amal nyata pengabdian masyarakat  
bantuan finansial negara asing? simpulan dari mana ya?

message: Satu hal yg kurang dari wiki indonesia adalah obyektifitas,..
Saya tidak melihat adanya usaha untuk membahas suatu obyek dg berimbang, terutama pada topik2 agama, termasuk Islam.
Seperti dalam topik ini (Hizbut Tahrir), tidak disinggung bagaimana perkembangannya di negara2 lain,
seperti mengapa di Mesir dilarang (di Ban karena Makar),..
Kemudian prinsip loyalitas mereka terhadap agama yg lebih besar dari nasionalisme,
etc..
Ayolah, sudah bukan waktunya memperbodoh umat dg hanya menyajikan yg enak di baca saja,..Jember 09:49, 18 Juni 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Siapa itu Wiki Indonesia? Semua yang menulis di Wiki Indonesia adalah Wiki Indonesia termasuk Anda. borgx(kirim pesan) 00:16, 21 Juni 2008 (UTC)
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MEngenai ke-otentikan dokumen HT di wikipedia, saya tidak mencampurinya dan tidak menulisnya disana. Berkaitan dengan pertanyaan "mengapa HT dilarang di Mesir", saya akan mencoba melihat dari sejarahnya.
Israel diprokalirkan sebagai negara pada tahun 1948 seetelah selama 2000 tahun kaum yahudi terusir dari tanahnya (sesuai dlm lirik lagu kebangsaan mereka).  HT ini lahir pada tahun 1953 di JErusalem dibawah suasana penolakan terhadap keberadaan negara Israel.  Salah satu nilai penting dari HT adalah penolakan mutlak terhadap gerakan zionisme -- tentu juga menolak mengakui kedaulatan negara israel.
Walaupun Mesir termasuk negara yang memerangi Israel pada tahun 1967 (bersama beberapa negara arab yang lain; tetapi dikalahkan Israel), Mesir adalah negara pertama yang mengakui kedaulatan negara israel. Pengakuan kedaulatan itu tentunya dibarengi dengan kesepakatan-kesepakatan kerjasama yang lain. Beberapa tahun kemudian, Jordan adalah negara kedua yang mengakui kedaulatan negara israel.
Dengan kondisi politik kedua negara yang mengakui kedaulatan israel, tentu rezim pemerintah mesir dan jordan juga mengakui kedaulatan pemerintah israel.  Disisi sebaliknya, pemerintah mesir tentu beroposisi dengan pihak-pihak yang berseberangan dengan israel. HT adalah salah satu pihak yang secara tegas berseberangan dengan israel.  GErakan HT yang cukup kuat di Mesir itu agaknya mulai "terasa" oleh pemerintah.  Agaknya, berkaitan dengan kondisi politik pemerintah mesir yang bisa dikatakan pro israel itulah,  maka HT dilarang di mesir.
Salam.
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message: MEngenai ke-otentikan dokumen HT di wikipedia, saya tidak mencampurinya dan tidak menulisnya disana. Berkaitan dengan pertanyaan "mengapa HT dilarang di Mesir", saya akan mencoba melihat dari sejarahnya.
Israel diprokalirkan sebagai negara pada tahun 1948 seetelah selama 2000 tahun kaum yahudi terusir dari tanahnya (sesuai dlm lirik lagu kebangsaan mereka).  HT ini lahir pada tahun 1953 di JErusalem dibawah suasana penolakan terhadap keberadaan negara Israel.  Salah satu nilai penting dari HT adalah penolakan mutlak terhadap gerakan zionisme -- tentu juga menolak mengakui kedaulatan negara israel.
Walaupun Mesir termasuk negara yang memerangi Israel pada tahun 1967 (bersama beberapa negara arab yang lain; tetapi dikalahkan Israel), Mesir adalah negara pertama yang mengakui kedaulatan negara israel. Pengakuan kedaulatan itu tentunya dibarengi dengan kesepakatan-kesepakatan kerjasama yang lain. Beberapa tahun kemudian, Jordan adalah negara kedua yang mengakui kedaulatan negara israel.
Dengan kondisi politik kedua negara yang mengakui kedaulatan israel, tentu rezim pemerintah mesir dan jordan juga mengakui kedaulatan pemerintah israel.  Disisi sebaliknya, pemerintah mesir tentu beroposisi dengan pihak-pihak yang berseberangan dengan israel. HT adalah salah satu pihak yang secara tegas berseberangan dengan israel.  GErakan HT yang cukup kuat di Mesir itu agaknya mulai "terasa" oleh pemerintah.  Agaknya, berkaitan dengan kondisi politik pemerintah mesir yang bisa dikatakan pro israel itulah,  maka HT dilarang di mesir.
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message: Diambil dari Wikipedia Hizbut Tahrir bahasa Inggris (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir)
Hizb ut-Tahrir ( Ḥizb at-Taḥrīr; international, pan-Islamic political organisation, which describes its "ideology as Islam", and its aim as the re-establishment of "the Islamic Khilafah (Caliphate)" or Islamic state. The new caliphate would unify the Muslim community (Ummah) in a unitary (not federal)Draft Constitution of the Khilafah State, 2011: Article 16   "superstate" of unified Muslim-majority countriesAhmed & Stuart, Hizb Ut-Tahrir, 2009: p.3 spanning from Morocco in West Africa to the southern Philippines in East Asia. The proposed state would enforce Islamic Shariah law, return to its "rightful place as the first state in the world", and carry "the Da'wah of Islam" to the rest of the world. The party is engaged in "politics of hatred" and intolerance which is a "natural precursor" of and provides ideological justification forAhmed & Stuart, Hizb Ut-Tahrir, 2009: p.45 violence; 
that actions such as calling suicide bombers "martyrs", accusing western countries of waging war on Islam and Muslims, or calling for the destruction of Hindus in Kashmir, Russians in Chechnya and Jews in Israel—are extremist; or that it opposes violence and military expansion not in principle but only until its "Islamic state" has been established.Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami on Global Security.org| last update 11-07-2011
Indonesia Tanah Airku (bicara) 14 Mei 2016 10.07 (UTC)
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message: "ubah Organisasi ini terlibat dalam "politik kebencian"[35] dan intoleransi yang memberikan pembenaran ideologis untuk[36] kekerasan;[35] memanggil pelaku bom bunuh diri sebagai "martir",[37] menuduh negara-negara barat melancarkan perang terhadap Islam dan Muslim,[38][39] dan menyerukan penghancuran umat Hindu di Kashmir, orang Rusia di Chechnya dan orang Yahudi di Israel;[25] sampai "negara Islam" telah didirikan.[40] menjadi
Organisasi ini terlibat dalam upaya membangkitkan umat Islam dari keterpurukannya; membebaskan mereka dari pemikiran, sistem, hukum-hukum yang tidak Islami, dan dari dominasi dan pengaruh negara-negara imperialis; serta bekerja untuk menegakkan Khilafah Islam, dalam rangka mengembalikan hukum yang diturunkan oleh Allah SWT.[35]Muisar (bicara) 3 Februari 2024 03.56 (UTC)
Hizb ut Tahrir (2010). Hizb ut tahrir, Beirut: Dar Ummah, hal. 6.
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