Pembicaraan MediaWiki:Licenses

message: Om Sysop apakah ini tidak perlu di-update soalnya liat  di :Kategori:Templat lisensi gambar ada beberapa lisensi yang tidak dimasukkan di sini seperti lisensi CC-by-Sa, dll. Thx Athrion ✆ 09:08, 4 Mei 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Apa ada lagi yang kurang? ✒ Bennylin 04:55, 24 Desember 2009 (UTC)

message: I think that a cleanup in licenses is needed.
Per Wikimedia Foundation resolution it is NOT ALLOWED to have non-commercial or no-derivate files on Wikipedia. So the licenses that include "nc" or "nd" should be removed from the list of licenses. 
WMF decided long ago that GFDL was not a good license so they changed to Cc-by-sa-3.0. Therefore GFDL should be avoided whenever possible. So we should not make GFDL the first suggestion. We should suggest Cc-by-sa-3.0 or a dual license with GFDL|Cc-by-sa-3.0. If users want to use GFDL alone they should add it manually.
Therefore I suggest these changes:
*Lisensi bebas, karya Anda sendiri:
**GFDL-self|GFDL  - remove
**SelfCc-by-3.0|Beri atribusi  - make this the second one
**SelfCc-by-nc-3.0|Beri atribusi, tidak untuk komersial  - remove
**SelfCc-by-nc-nd-3.0|Beri atribusi, tidak untuk komersial, tidak boleh diturunkan  - remove
**SelfCc-by-nc-sa-3.0|Beri atribusi, tidak untuk komersial, turunan gunakan lisensi serupa  - remove
**SelfCc-by-nd-3.0|Beri atribusi, tidak boleh diturunkan  - remove
**SelfCc-by-sa-3.0|Beri atribusi, turunan gunakan lisensi serupa  - make this the first one
**SelfCc-by-sa-3.0|GFDL|Beri atribusi, turunan gunakan lisensi serupa  - add and make this the third one
*Lisensi bebas, karya orang lain:  - add (remember to document the permission by link or mail to OTRS)
**GFDL|GFDL (karya orang lain)
**Cc-by-3.0|Beri atribusi
**Cc-by-nc-3.0|Beri atribusi, tidak untuk komersial  - remove
**Cc-by-nc-nd-3.0|Beri atribusi, tidak untuk komersial, tidak boleh diturunkan  - remove
**Cc-by-nc-sa-3.0|Beri atribusi, tidak untuk komersial, turunan gunakan lisensi serupa  - remove
**Cc-by-nd-3.0|Beri atribusi, tidak boleh diturunkan  - remove
**Cc-by-sa-3.0|Beri atribusi, turunan gunakan lisensi serupa
**Tampilan-Wikipedia|Tampilan (screenshot) Wikipedia
*Domain umum: - remove and move the choises up
**DU|Domain umum - move down and ad a warning "Please choose another license or the file may be deleted soon"
**DU-Seni|Domain umum (karya seni dua dimensi) - move up under "Lisensi bebas, karya orang lain"
**DU-Lama|Domain umum (hak cipta sudah berakhir) - move up under "Lisensi bebas, karya orang lain"
**DU-Pembuat|Domain umum oleh sang pembuat - move up under "Lisensi bebas, karya orang lain"
**DU-Sendiri|Domain umum oleh saya - move up under "Lisensi bebas, karya Anda sendiri"
I did not check the rest of the license it is possible to choose. I also used google translate to assist so if something looks totally wrong that is probably why. --MGA73 (bicara) 24 Juli 2012 19.09 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure about the text for asking people to send a ticket to OTRS. Is there any sample text that I can use? ‑Bennylin 【komunikasi】 02.25, 25 Juli 2012 (WIB)
replies: text: : Hm... No I don´t think there is.. On :lb:MediaWiki:Licenses there is a text "Denkt dru fir d'Autorisatioun ze dokumentéieren" meaning something like "remember to document the permission".

text: : Is there a template like :en:Template:Di-no permission somewhere? --MGA73 (bicara) 24 Juli 2012 19.29 (UTC)
Here is a few otheres that should be removed:
* Templat:Foto-foto.com says it is no longer valid so it should also be removed.
* Templat:HakCiptaGambarNonkomersial has the same problem as the "nc" license that was removed yesterday so it should also be removed
--MGA73 (bicara) 25 Juli 2012 17.14 (UTC)

text: . ‑Bennylin 【bicara】 00.28, 26 Juli 2012 (WIB)
replies: text: :Thanks to Mr. Benny.  Wagino 20100516 (bicara) 26 Juli 2012 04.47 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup in licenses 

message: Bagaimana daftar templat ini bisa diperbaiki? Apa saja yang harus diganti/ditambahkan/dihilangkan? ‑Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ ｢mufakat｣ 01.36, 29 Januari 2013 (WIB)
thread_title:  Perbaikan 

message: Hi!
I think it is time for an update (I only checked licenses for free files):
*Lisensi bebas, karya Anda sendiri:
**Self|Cc-by-sa-4.0|Beri atribusi, turunan gunakan lisensi serupa (CC-BY-SA) - updated from 3.0 to 4.0
**Self|Cc-by-4.0|Beri atribusi (CC-BY) - updated from 3.0 to 4.0
**Self|Cc-by-sa-4.0|GFDL|Beri atribusi, turunan gunakan lisensi serupa (CC-BY-SA / GFDL) - updated from 3.0 to 4.0 or REMOVE as GFDL is not a good license for photos
**Self|CC0|Domain umum oleh saya (CC0) - Changed DU-Sendiri to CC0 (DU-Sendiri is not a real license)
*Lisensi bebas, karya orang lain:
**GFDL|GFDL (karya orang lain) - REMOVE because GFDL is not a good license for photos (if anyone really really need it they can add it manually)
**Cc-by-4.0|Beri atribusi - updated from 3.0 to 4.0
**Cc-by-sa-4.0|Beri atribusi, turunan gunakan lisensi serupa - updated from 3.0 to 4.0
**Tampilan-Wikipedia|Tampilan (screenshot) Wikipedia
**DU-Seni|Domain umum (karya seni dua dimensi)
**DU-Lama|Domain umum (hak cipta sudah berakhir)
**DU-Pembuat|Domain umum oleh sang pembuat
**DU|Domain umum (pilih lisensi yang lain atau berkas Anda akan dihapus) - REMOVE because it seems that the template is almost never used correct (see below)
**DU-tekslogo|Domain umum (bentuk atau teks sederhana)
**DU-USGov-NASA|Domain umum oleh NASA
**DU-USGov-Military-Army|Domain umum oleh Angkatan Darat AS
* Penggunaan wajar:
...
I also think that there should be a page that suggest that users upload free files to Commons but that is another question. --MGA73 (bicara) 21 Mei 2020 09.50 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggested above that we add a page that point users to Commons but there IS such a page. It was just not visible to me as my languaage settings are English. So there is no need for a new page.

text: There was a notice about my suggestion here: Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Semua)#Pembaruan_lisensi and Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Kebijakan)#Pembaruan_lisensi and Wikipedia:Permintaan_perhatian_pengurus#Update_of_licenses. I see no comments there against.

text: I also suggest to remove: "DU" because it seems that most of the files in :Kategori:Lisensi yang tidak lengkap are there when  is not used correct. I just added that today so if it can not be implemented now its cool with me. --MGA73 (bicara) 14 Juni 2020 20.14 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update of licenses 2020