Pembicaraan:Kapitan Cina

message: Hey...di sini bukan Malaysia wahyudi (bicara) 6 Januari 2012 17.21 (UTC)

message: Adakah yang bisa memberikan referensi bahwa benar istilah yang digunakan di masa Hindia Belanda adalah bahasa Indonesia/Melayu "Kapitan Cina", alih-alih bahasa Belanda Majoor, Kapitein dan Luitenant der Chinezen? Bukan referensi bahasa Malaysia/di Malaysia (waktu itu bernama Malaya), namun yang berbahasa Indonesia/di Hindia Belanda pra-1942, dan pada masa Soekarno (awal kemerdekaan). Surat kabar, foto, berita, bahkan nisan.
Sejauh yang saya baca, tidak ada referensi tentang hal itu, melainkan kemungkinan meminjam (menyerap utuh) dari bahasa Melayu Malaya/Malaysia. Sebagai buktinya, kita tidak memiliki istilah "Mayor Cina" maupun "Letnan Cina". Karena ketiga istilah tersebut selalu dijumpai dalam bahasa Belanda (atau bahasa Inggris, atau Melayu Malaysia yang diterjemahkan dari Inggris). Oleh karena itu, jika tidak ada referensi dalam bahasa Indonesia pada eranya, saya menganggap penamaan yang digunakan era Suharto dan seterusnya ini merupakan salah kaprah, dan artikel mengenai gelar ini akan dialihkan ke bentuk aslinya, yakni Kapitein der Chinezen untuk konteks Indonesia, dan Captain of the Chinese untuk konteks Malaya, dan paragraf pembuka akan dirombak. ꦱꦭꦩ꧀ ‑Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ ｢cakap｣ 14 Februari 2022 13.55 (WIB)
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