Wikipedia Diskussion:WikiProjekt Georeferenzierung/Hauptseite/Wikipedia-World/en

message: 5. extension of the database for more than 11 languages. Which ones?
:May I suggest dawiki. We have just launched a project that aims to add coordinates to our articles. --C960657@dawiki
::Ok, your language is registered for the next extension. Kolossos 08:24, 16. Mär. 2007 (CET)
replies: text: itwiki? We are one of the +100.000 articles wiki :) 87.0.30.211 12:26, 1. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: At itwiki we have a statistic:  so  because we can not read italiano, we only see http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Geobox_coordinate with 49398 usages for really interesting, unfourtunally this looks old, not linked to geohack and so not proved. This was the reason for not reading itwiki. Now we could also read Template:Geobox_coordinate_comuni, but will this give us enough new informations in relation to the work? Or do you have other templates we should use? Kolossos 14:58, 1. Aug. 2007 (CEST)

text: Actually they had left the old Geobox for the Coord template. See here.Rufus T. Firefly 18:47, 4. Aug. 2007 (CEST)

text: Is there any way to add ukwiki to the list of processed wikis? We might have a bit of georeferenced articles. Thanks--Victor Anyakin 10:41, 28. Feb. 2010 (CET)

text: Vielen Dank! I hope that the ukwiki contribution will not be that large to make a DB server cry. I did not know about locateCoord tool, thanks.--Victor Anyakin 13:59, 1. Mär. 2010 (CET)
thread_title:  Extension to which languages ? 

message: Hello,
Are you going to be using the geo microformat? Please see Project Microformats for details of how it is being deployed on on Wikipedia-EN. I'm happy to advise further if needed. Pigsonthewing 17:01, 31. Mär. 2007 (CEST)
thread_title:  Geo microformat 

message: It is not better if we have different colors and placemarks for different sectors? I mean, landmarks have still the same color (orange) and icon (flag) also if they are taken from different sectors (military, cave...). I suggest to differentiate them more (ie. military landmarks could have swords or similar).
Another strange thing is having the states' name which are smaller than cities' name: it is against the standard cartography style... 87.0.30.211 12:26, 1. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: I know that we can better in this part of the work, but we are a little bit dependent from the google earth icons, which are more useful for commercial usage (no swords). Free icons are rare. At the end of http://tools.wikimedia.de/~kolossos/wp-world/info.php (it needs a little bit time to load) you can see which types we extract with the help of categories and so on. If you really want to help us, I can give you my styles and you can try to create a new skin. --Kolossos 14:58, 1. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text:  Yeah, I supposed this. But I remember are the famfamfam icons (http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/) and http://www.iconarchive.com . If you give to me also some instructions for schema, I can try something but I don`t promise any result :) I can try to change something on standard GE icons, but we can modify and use them?87.8.253.239 16:10, 1. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: I'm looking for some thing like :commons:Category:Simple_map_icons but in better quality. With Inkscape and much time it shouldn't be a problem to create such. To change GE-icons and use them on toolserver is absolute  not allowed on :meta:toolserver.   --Kolossos 17:14, 2. Aug. 2007 (CEST)

text: What about font symbols (like Windows Wingding?). Probably on http://www.dafont.com/ there is some useful one.87.0.30.186 17:39, 2. Aug. 2007 (CEST)

text: The articles are filtered according to the articles length, this is neccessary because 2 reasons: in english it is difficult to extract good populations values and it is difficult to decide what's a important landmark, for instance a airport or a church? So the base of the used method is, that about a important thing the people write more than about unimportant thing and it is easy because I have only look at one value with is easy to extract. Incoherent is the result, but I don't see a big problem there. (Thanks for your account, it is better than to talk with IP.)  --Kolossos 17:16, 3. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: Another one could be the linked pages to the article, I think. In this way things like Germany will probably be more important than Berlin. Now if you take articles' lenght you will have more articles on german related thing, instead a more normalized parameter.Rufus T. Firefly 17:47, 3. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: With speedblue (on enwiki) Germany has 67939, Berlin 10568; Italy 50373, Rome 13347 and Verona 803. It seems that it works. And important articles are usually divided on subpages, and then their lenght is less than other. :p Ah, I'm still waiting for style experiment and a reply about itwiki enclousure.Rufus T. Firefly 23:44, 3. Aug. 2007 (CEST)

text: Thank you for this information. It's real google bullshit. So it makes real work, I must do the next days. It would be a good moment for using free icons. But we have not enouth. --Kolossos 23:19, 22. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
thread_title: Icons/Colors/Font size

message: * http://www.sodipodi.com/index.php3?section=clipart/mapsymbols
* http://openclipart.org/
* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Osmarender/Symbols
* http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Common_map_symbols
* http://www.geograph.org.uk/article/Ordnance-Survey-Map-Symbols
* http://www.juicygeography.co.uk/homemademaps.htm
for 4. you can read the styles: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~kolossos/geoworld/marks-styles-source.php Landmarks and buildings are the bigest problems in the moment, I think.  --Kolossos 19:41, 23. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
thread_title: Possible icons link

message: I found this really interesting, in order to have the image thumbnail and a better visualization.87.8.253.239 16:10, 1. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: How about the Wikimedia Commons images in Google Earth layer? --Para 22:16, 1. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: I think, the ballons would make my program much more complex. So I love the internal browser, one click away. But ok in my ballon have some points (types and images), which only interesting for develeper, I will remove this and add some "Follow the link to the hole article:". Would this be ok?   --Kolossos 17:21, 2. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: (@ IP: Do you have tested: Thumbs-expert-mode ? )
Yeah, I had tried it but having much images is too hurting, IMHO. Then having them on balloons should be a better solution, I think. And having the category of article is a good thing, do not remove it. 87.0.30.186 17:36, 2. Aug. 2007 (CEST)

text: Thanks for the idea with the ballons, now I integrate a thumb, which was really easy, with complex I mean a short abstact like in googles wikipedia layer. --Kolossos 21:47, 2. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: Well, I suspect that is not really simple :) 87.5.253.158 10:28, 3. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
thread_title: Balloons

message: In Viquiprojecte Coordenades geogràfiques (code written there) we are wondering if .kml file could be uploaded with the few English text translated to the different languages (Wikimedia server doesn't let us upload files with this extension). Llull 16:43, 4. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
thread_title:  .kml translation 

message: Hallo,
On the French Wikipedia, we have recently re-worked the coordinate system by using a new unified template, :fr:Template:Coord. It is now used on more than 50000 articles, and a few thousand articles still use the old templates, which are being replaced.
I'm wondering if this has any effect on Wikipedia-World ? Currently the box on top-right says only 894 articles are being indexed on the French Wikipedia or 67768 "with duplicates" (what does it mean ?). I would be interested to know if this has changed. Thanks ! 81.129.198.245 :fr:User:Korrigan 23:19, 18. Sep. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: At the next update in November we will try to use your coordinates. In the moment Stefan Kühn has much to work do.  The "with duplicates" comes from the interwikilinks so we use german or english coordinates with french articles.  --Kolossos 21:21, 26. Sep. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: Thanks for your answer. I thought coordinates were regularly pulled from the database (like the search engine which uses "incremental index updating". But I understand this is not easy task. Thanks for developing all these tools, by the way :-) 86.155.96.105 (:fr:User:Korrigan) 01:17, 27. Sep. 2007 (CEST)
thread_title:  Update from French Wikipedia 

message: itWiki has reached 350,000 articles and its coordinates database is still out from this project. Since it use the last Coord template, it's time to include it. Rufus T. Firefly 17:27, 23. Sep. 2007 (CEST)
replies: text: At the next update in November we will try to integrate your coordinates. Sorry for the late answer. --Kolossos 21:22, 26. Sep. 2007 (CEST)
thread_title:  itwiki! 

message: I notice that many locations on wikipedia include postcodes or zip codes.  Though these vary in approach.  For instance, articles for Australian and US locations use the full codes, while UK locations use the area parts of the postcode which link to other wiki pages detailing the members of that area part, so this request may not be that feasible for all instances.  But as geocodes for postcodes are sought after data, would it be possible to include postcodes that a location is within in the sql output file, assuming that the data is available? Benutzer:203.143.215.69
:Postcodes are not part of this project.  But you can look at Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Vorlagenauswertung/en whre we extracted the datas of Infoboxes and all templates, i.e. http://tools.wikimedia.de/~kolossos/templatetiger/tt-table4.php?template=Infobox%20Settlement&lang=en&where=&is= --Kolossos 11:21, 5. Jan. 2008 (CET)
thread_title:  Postcodes / Zip Codes 

message: The code should let choose the icons. It could be very useful, for example for marking the underground stations with a different icon each line. 80.31.235.5 12:28, 22. Mär. 2008 (CET)
replies: text: The first problem I see that we have not saved the diferent underground lines in the database. What to do with station with more than one line? The last question would be, how to save the customers label styles? But if you want you can downloads the data and try our luck and develop such an interesting application. --Kolossos 14:21, 22. Mär. 2008 (CET)
replies: text: A station with more than one line could use an image made for this station that include the two icons. I have no idea about software development but I think this feature could be great. 88.27.95.156 20:17, 7. Apr. 2008 (CEST)
thread_title:  Let choose the icons 

message: I apologize if I'm not doing this correctly, I only speak english but I can't seem to edit this page on a non-german wikipedia site =]
I was wondering if the data for the sql database is regularly updated and if so, are the dump files available on the article page also updated regularly?
Secondly, I see there are a lot of KMZ files available, however, there doesn't seem to be a way to simply query for articles near a given lat/long and recieve a geo-rss feed of results (say the closest 25). Does anyone know of something like this that is publicly available? If not, im considering working on it as a project which is why I was wondering if there the database is regularly updated.
Thanks!
Aroon
aroon at nospam pure imaginary dot com
:Sorry for the late answer. Yes the SQL dump is also updating regularly. For a simple output you can look at umkreis.php -table. Or you write a little bit more in which format you want the export(example) and for what usage. You can get also get access to the database over a toolserver account. --Kolossos 20:40, 4. Mai 2008 (CEST)
thread_title:  Updates to the sql dump files? 

message: I am trying to use the :en:Template:GeoGroupTemplate and it works just fine on the article page with the coordinate listing.  I asked a query on the talk page about using the list on one article, and the maps on a different article, and was replied to but I don't understand still.  Usage of geogroup template on one page, listing on separate page  The article North Sea is very long.  I would like a geographical features map on the page using coordinates so the places are rather precise on the map of the North Sea, so the coordinates are all listed at Geography of the North Sea and the geogroup template there is awesome.  Just need it at North Sea as well.  Also asked at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) Thank you SriMesh 03:37, 6. Dez. 2008 (CET)
replies: text: I don't believe that we could help you. --Kolossos 09:53, 6. Dez. 2008 (CET)
replies: text: Thank you.  It has now been resolve.  On the talk page of the template, it refers here.  Kind Regards SriMesh 05:43, 7. Dez. 2008 (CET)
thread_title:  Template:GeoGroupTemplate 

message: Thanks to the interwiki links, this tool would take the coordinates of an object as described on several wikipedias, calculate the center of mass, and compare each point to check whether it is completely out (more than X kilometers from the center of mass).
100 kilometers might be a good value for X. One may argue that for instance Brazil is such a large object that 100 kilometers is not enough. Let's say there are 1000 such large objects, and now compare with the 100000 or so geolocalized objects: that's 0.1% of all. I bet the proportion of false positives will be low. Does not matter much anyway because the potentially misplaced articles will be checked and fixed by humans.
What do you think about it ? Thanks! Nicolas1981 12:16, 27. Dez. 2008 (CET)
replies: text: It would also help spot erroneous interwikis, like when two different villages with the same name are erroneously interwikied. Nicolas1981 08:52, 28. Dez. 2008 (CET)
thread_title: Suggestion for a new tool: Misplaced coordinates spotter

message: I would like to use the database dump for creating a data set used in an application I am writting.  What is the license for this data?  MochDove 06:02, 10. Okt. 2009 (CEST)
replies: text: Surely they are now CC-BY-SA so you could use it like OpenStreetMap datas. If this not possible in your application please call me again. --Kolossos 09:52, 10. Okt. 2009 (CEST)
replies: text: Thank you for answering my question.  MochDove 17:02, 10. Okt. 2009 (CEST)
thread_title:  Data license 

message: Why is the English page here and not on :en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. Matthias 18:39, 11. Jul. 2010 (CEST)
thread_title:  English page on German Wikipedia? 

message: Hey! Thanks for this project! It's really useful to see where are all the coordinates we have in wikipedia in a map. (this one). But the problem is that it has no definition. Where could I find a better one with more definition? Thank you! --Catalaalatac 11:54, 26. Jan. 2011 (CET)
replies: text: The pixel is lit if there are any coordinates in the area.  You can see the effect by changing fa.  The highest I've been able to get was fa=26 (9360x 4860).  Dispenser 17:57, 5. Aug. 2011 (CEST)
thread_title:  Higher definition image 

message: Hi, according to this wikifa has 13626 pages that they used coord template but in your chart wikifa has 3712 used coord template. which one is correct?Reza1615 23:40, 2. Jun. 2011 (CEST)
thread_title: wikifa

message: Hi Kolossos. Would it be possible to obtain acces to the database for wikipedia world, or at least an sql dump with coordinates extracted from ro.wp? Also, in what whay is this different from pub_C_geo_id, in u_kolossos_geo_p? Thanks.--Strainu 00:11, 10. Dez. 2011 (CET)
replies: text: Hi Kolossus. Thanks for running the wikipedia-world service: it's very useful as a source of data for cross-language geotagging, and I appreciate your work on it greatly. Can you tell me if there is any prospect of another SQL dump in the near future? Ideally, to save on people asking you for dumps repeatedly, could there be some way this could be provided via the web as an automated service from the toolserver, without needing to get a toolserver account? -- The Anome 15:21, 15. Feb. 2012 (CET)
thread_title:  Coordinates from ro.wp 

message: I don't understand this. Does it mean that we can somehow see geocordinates from non-en wikis (ex de or pl) on Google Maps? If so, how? All I get at  is a German language google serch box that I have no idea how to use further. PS. Please copy any reply to my talk, I am not watching this page - thanks. --Piotrus (Diskussion) 15:17, 22. Jul. 2013 (CEST)
thread_title:  Google Maps Wikipedia masking 

message: Hi, 
on OpenStreetMap hosted on toolserver is mentioned CC0 licence (public domain). But the OpenStreetMap is licenced by ODbL licence. Can someone please repair this? Thanks! :-) 
Xkomczax (Diskussion) 22:47, 25. Nov. 2013 (CET)
thread_title:  Licence of OpenStreetMap 

message: One more thing: on OpenStreetMap hosted on toolserver are some important things missing. A lot of landuse=forest is missing (for instance here - but are present on "normal" OSM) as well as some other elements, which are on the map for a very long time (= there is no problem with fresh data). Can somebody have a look? 
Thank you 
Xkomczax (Diskussion) 22:54, 25. Nov. 2013 (CET)
thread_title:  Rendering of objects on toolserver's version of OpenStreetMap 

message: How do articles get added to the map. I'm working on iswiki. There are lots of articles that show up on the map even though it doesn't have any GPS coordinates in the articles. And then articles that have GPS in the article but don't show up on the map. --Steinninn (Diskussion) 21:34, 11. Nov. 2022 (CET)
thread_title:  Adding articles to the map