Diskussion:Max Heinzelmann

message: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/my-dealings-max-heinzelmann-1475852/index3.html
In diesem Thread äußerte sich Maximilian Heinzelmann 2014 unter dem Nickname HotKarlMC zu seinen Schulden:
"All of the above is correct and I realize what ive done to all the people that used to trust me, and I can understand the anger, frustration and even hatred towards me and what ive done. I never expect anyone to trust/like me again. I will make sure to fix this as fast as I can. Instead of covering up lies with more lies I shouldve been straight forward and honest with all these people, and what I did. I wasnt and that just got me into more trouble and now thats what the outcome is. All I can do now is fix everything that ive done wrong and make sure everyone gets paid back as fast as possible. I dont expect or deserve any sympathy for what Ive done and I realize that."
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/my-dealings-max-heinzelmann-1475852/index5.html
Hier führt er auf, bei wem er seinerzeit Schulden hatte:
ok, heres a list of people I owe money too. I am not sure if they wanna be named in the thread, so I will not do that. if anyone wants the names privatly (no trolls, just people who I owe money to) that is fine. People know how to contact me. I can send a list with names to Zima if he wishes or someone else who is credible.
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Anonymous- 22k (someone mentioned that earlier ITT, but not sure if this person wants his name outed)
Anonymous- 11k
Anonymous- 9k
Anonymous - 8k
Anonymous - 7500
Manig - 7.5k
Anonymous - 6k
Anonymous - 5500
marek_heinz - 4k
Mahoney - 3k
Anonymous - 3k
Anonymous - 3k
Anonymous 2740
Sean S- 2200
Anonymous - 2000
Anonymous - 2000
Anonymous - 2000
Anonymous - 1500euros (all the other amounts are in USD so far)
Anonymous - 1420
Anonymous - 1100 euros
Anonymous - 1100
Anonymous - 700 euros
Anonymous - 200
As I said I didnt recheck with anyone, or if they want their names published or not. I asked a few people if they were fine w putting their name out there and they said yes, the others I have not gotten a hold off, but im sure if they feel the need they can step foward. This is very messy but I just wanted to get something out there and not have to wait 3 days for everyone to tell me if they want the name put out there or not."
:Siehe dazu WP:Belege (insb. Abschnitt 2.: „Was sind zuverlässige Informationsquellen?“). Solange diese Vorgänge nicht an anderer Stelle thematisiert werden (z. B. in einem anerkannten Poker-Magazin), sind sie leider für die Wikipedia nicht darstellbar. Foren, soziale Netzwerke und ähnliche Plattformen können wir in der Artikelarbeit nicht verwerten. --W.E.  ✉ 11:27, 9. Jun. 2017 (CEST)
replies: text: Können schon. Wollen aber nicht. Das Internet ist halt noch Neuland. (Was jetzt kein Kommentar sein soll zu der hier aktuellen Frage der Schulden und ob diese Quellen nach vernünftiger Beurteilung nicht doch belastbar wären.) 217.229.69.152 12:50, 9. Jun. 2017 (CEST)
replies: text: Nach über 20 Jahren ist es sicher kein Neuland mehr. Es ist nur nicht durchgängig seriös, verlässlich und belastbar. Das ist ein wesentlicher Unterschied.--Matthias v.d. Elbe (Diskussion) 14:42, 9. Jun. 2017 (CEST)
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