Bespreking:2007 Mianmarese anti-regeringsbetogings

message: Hi, die artikel is doelbewus met die naam Birma geskep aangesien dit handel oor protesaksie teen die Mianmarse militêre diktyatorskap deur mense wat oënskynlik verkies om die land Birma te noem. Kan ons dit maar weer terugskuif? laurens 07:47, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ek glo nie dit sou ensiklopedies korrek wees om die artikel onder daardie titel te hê nie. Ek besef waarom jy dit sou wil hê, maar ek dink dis baie belangrik om in sulke gevalle feitelik 100% korrek te wees. (Dit beteken om na die land te verwys volgens die titel wat die Verenigde Nasies en die SA-regering erken en nie wat die inwoners wil hê nie.) In hierdie geval vind die betogings in Mianmar plaas en moet ons dus na die land as sulks verwys, al hou ons nie daarvan nie. Mens kan eerder vroeg in die artikel die Mianmar/Birma storie duidelik maak, asook die rede vir die betogings. Anrie 07:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :Ek dink nie dis so eenvoudig nie. Die Engelse, Franse en Sweedse wikipedias het almal gekies om van Birma te praat waar hulle na die opstand verwys selfs al gebruik hulle die amptelike naam vir die artikel oor die land. Let ook daarop dat die regering van die VSA, Australië, die Verenigde Koninkryk en Ierland Birma gebruik en nie Mianmar nie. Die Suid-Afrikaanse regering, of enige ander regering, het natuurlik geen jurisdiksie oor wikipedia nie en dit staan ons vry om ons eie naamkonvensie te volg. laurens 08:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ::Ek dink steeds dat, om 'n totaal-en-alle neutrale standpunt te neem, die land se eie naam gebruik moet word. Ek besef die VSA en VK erken nie die huidige regering nie (en dus ook nie hul naam nie), maar ek dink dis veiliger en meer neutraal om na Mianmar (ipv Birma) te verwys, tot tyd en wyl dit iets ander is. Ons hoef nie ondersteuning te wys deur die artikel onder "Burmese..." te hê nie, die feite speak for themselves. Anrie 08:20, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Die titel maak dit so wie so duidelik dat dit anti-regeringsbetogings teen die Mianmarese regering is. Anrie 08:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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