page_title: British Rail Class 185
section_title: Overcrowding and passenger feedback
hierarchical_section_title: British Rail Class 185 / Operations / Overcrowding and passenger feedback
caption_attribution_description: The First Class interior of Class 185 DMCO vehicle
context_page_description: The British Rail Class 185 Desiro units are a diesel multiple-unit passenger train of the Desiro UK family built by Siemens in Germany for the train operating company First TransPennine Express. They are currently operated by TransPennine Express.
  A £260 million order for 51 three-car trains and associated maintenance depots was placed in 2003, and deliveries took place between 2006 and 2007.
context_section_description: In 2007, Passenger Focus published a user survey on the Class 185. Satisfaction ratings of around 80% were given for many standard aspects of a train journey, such as availability of seats, seat comfort, ease of egression, cleanliness. Passengers gave satisfaction ratings of around only 70% on standing space availability. Lower averaged satisfaction ratings (~50%) were given for wheelchair space, bicycle space and for the inability to shield the sun, as well as overall design, and position and number of bins. Frequent travellers had a low level of satisfaction with toilet cleanliness. The report concluded that overall users liked the new trains, but identified issues relating to peak crowding, particularly on evening peaks.
  By 2007, increased use of some of the First TransPennine Express services (Sheffield, Manchester and Leeds) caused the operator to start lobbying the SRA for a fourth car to the three-car sets to increase capacity; however, the service overall was subsidised, presenting a cost barrier to further rolling stock leasing. By 2008, many of the peak-time trains operated on by Class 185s on First TransPennine Express services were suffering chronic overcrowding.
caption: Class 185 first class saloon
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