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                                                                    EXHIBIT 10.4

 APPLIES TO ALL NQ GRANTS ISSUED UNDER THE 1997 EQUITY PLAN AFTER MARCH 23, 2004

                            NONSTATUTORY STOCK OPTION

     FIRST VIRTUAL COMMUNICATIONS, INC. (the "Company"), pursuant to its 1997
Equity Incentive Plan (the "Plan"), has granted to Optionee an option (the
"Option") to purchase certain shares of the common stock of the Company ("Common
Stock"), upon the terms and conditions set forth in the electronic notice of
stock option grant (the "Notice") transmitted to or viewed online by Optionee
via the Company's online option grant process on the E*Trade OptionsLink
website, the terms of which Notice are incorporated herein by this reference.
This Option is not intended to qualify and will not be treated as an "incentive
stock option" within the meaning of Section 422 of the Internal Revenue Code of
1986, as amended (the "Code").

     The grant hereunder is in connection with and in furtherance of the
Company's compensatory benefit plan for participation of the Company's employees
(including officers), directors or consultants. Defined terms not explicitly
defined in this agreement but defined in the Plan shall have the same
definitions as in the Plan.

     The details of your option are as follows:

     1.   TOTAL NUMBER OF SHARES SUBJECT TO THIS OPTION. The total number of
     shares of Common Stock subject to this Option is as set forth in the
     Notice.

     2.   VESTING. Subject to the limitations contained herein, the shares will
     vest (become exercisable) in accordance with the vesting schedule set forth
     in the Notice, until either (i) you cease to provide services to the
     Company for any reason, or (ii) this Option becomes fully vested, or (iii)
     the Option otherwise terminates under the terms of the Plan.
     Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained in the Notice, this
     Agreement or the Plan, and notwithstanding the fact that Optionee may be
     vested in shares hereunder, Optionee may not exercise this Option in the
     event the Company is unable to issue the shares upon such exercise in
     compliance with all applicable securities laws, as further reflected in
     paragraphs 5 and 6(c) below.

     3.   EXERCISE PRICE AND METHOD OF PAYMENT.

          (a) EXERCISE PRICE. The exercise price of this Option is that set
forth in the Notice, being not less than 100% of the fair market value of the
Common Stock on the date of grant of this Option.

          (b) METHOD OF PAYMENT. Payment of the exercise price per share is due
in full upon exercise of all or any part of each installment which has accrued
to you. You may elect, to the extent permitted by applicable statutes and
regulations, to make payment of the exercise price under one of the following
alternatives: Payment of the exercise price per share in cash (including check)
at the time of exercise; Payment pursuant to a program developed under
Regulation T as promulgated by the Federal Reserve Board which, prior to the
issuance of Common Stock, results in either the receipt of cash (or check) by
the Company or the receipt of irrevocable instructions to pay the aggregate
exercise price to the Company from the sales proceeds; Provided that at the time
of exercise the Company's Common Stock is publicly traded and quoted regularly
in the Wall Street Journal, payment by delivery of already-owned shares of
Common Stock, held for the period required to avoid a charge to the Company's
reported earnings, and owned free and clear of any liens, claims, encumbrances
or security interests, which Common Stock shall be valued at its fair market
value on the date of exercise; or Payment by a combination of the methods of
payment permitted by subparagraph 3(b)(i) through 3(b)(iii) above.

     4.   WHOLE SHARES. This Option may not be exercised for any number of
shares which would require the issuance of anything other than whole shares.

     5.   SECURITIES LAW COMPLIANCE. Notwithstanding anything to the contrary
contained herein, this Option may not be exercised unless the shares issuable
upon exercise of this Option are then registered under the Securities Act of
1933, as amended (the "Act") or, if such shares are not then so registered, the
Company has determined that such exercise and issuance would be exempt from the
registration requirements of the Act.

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     6.   TERM. The term of this Option commences on the date of grant as set
forth in the Notice and expires on the tenth anniversary of said date of grant
(the "Expiration Date"), unless this Option expires sooner as set forth below or
in the Plan. In no event may this Option be exercised on or after the Expiration
Date. Following the date of termination of Optionee's continuous status as an
Employee, Officer, Director or Consultant with the Company or an Affiliate
("Continuous Status") for any or no reason (such final day of Continuous Status,
the "Termination Date"), this Option shall be exercisable only as to shares of
Common Stock that were vested as of the Termination Date as provided in
paragraph 2 of this Option and then only for the applicable period specified in
(i) and (ii) below (the "Post-Termination Exercise Period"). This Option shall
terminate prior to the Expiration Date as follows: (i) in the case of an
Optionee who is an Employee or Consultant, ninety (90) days after the
Termination Date, or (ii) in the case of an Optionee who is an Officer or
Director, nine (9) months after the Termination Date, unless:

          (a)  such termination of Continuous Status as an Employee, Director or
Consultant is due to your disability, in which event the option shall expire on
the earlier of the Expiration Date set forth above or six (6) months following
such termination of Continuous Status as an Employee, Director or Consultant; or

          (b)  such termination of Continuous Status as an Employee, Director or
Consultant is due to your death or your death occurs within thirty (30) days
following your termination for any other reason, in which event this Option
shall expire on the earlier of the Expiration Date set forth above or eighteen
(18) months after your death; or

          (c)  if during any part of the Post Termination Exercise Period you
may not exercise your option solely because of the condition set forth in
paragraph 5 above, then this Option will not expire until the earlier of the
Expiration Date set forth above or until this Option shall have been exercisable
for an aggregate period equal to the applicable Post-Termination Period after
your termination of Continuous Status as an Employee, Director or Consultant; or

          (d)  if your exercise of the option within thirty (30) days after
termination of your Continuous Status as an Employee, Director or Consultant
with the Company or with an Affiliate of the Company would result in liability
under section 16(b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act),
in which case the option will expire on the earlier of (i) the Expiration Date
set forth above, (ii) the tenth (10th) day after the last date upon which
exercise would result in such liability or (iii) six (6) months and ten (10)
days after the termination of your Continuous Status as an Employee, Director or
Consultant with the Company or an Affiliate of the Company.

     However, this Option may be exercised following termination of Continuous
Status as an Employee, Director or Consultant only as to that number of shares
as to which it was exercisable on the Termination Date under the provisions of
paragraph 2 of this Option.

     7.   EXERCISE.

          (a)  This Option may be exercised, to the extent specified above, by
delivering a notice of exercise (in a form designated by the Company) together
with the exercise price to the Secretary of the Company, or to such other person
as the Company may designate, during regular business hours, together with such
additional documents as the Company may then require pursuant to subsection
11(e) of the Plan, or by such other method as may be implemented by the Company.

          (b)  By exercising this Option you agree that as a precondition to the
completion of any exercise of this Option, the Company may require you to enter
an arrangement providing for the cash payment by you to the Company of any tax
withholding obligation of the Company arising by reason of: (1) the exercise of
this Option; (2) the lapse of any substantial risk of forfeiture to which the
shares are subject at the time of exercise; or (3) the disposition of shares
acquired upon such exercise. You also agree that any exercise of this Option has
not been completed and that the Company is under no obligation to issue any
Common Stock to you until such an arrangement is established or the Company's
tax withholding obligations are satisfied, as determined by the Company.

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     8.   TRANSFERABILITY. This Option is not transferable, except by will or by
the laws of descent and distribution and is exercisable during your life only by
you. Notwithstanding the foregoing, by delivering written notice to the Company,
in a form satisfactory to the Company, you may designate a third party who, in
the event of your death, shall thereafter be entitled to exercise this Option.

     9.   OPTION NOT A SERVICE CONTRACT. This Option is not an employment
contract and nothing in this Option shall be deemed to create in any way
whatsoever any obligation on your part to continue in the employ of the Company,
or of the Company to continue your employment with the Company. In addition,
nothing in this Option shall obligate the Company or any Affiliate of the
Company, or their respective shareholders, Board of Directors, officers, or
employees to continue any relationship which you might have as a Director or
Consultant for the Company or Affiliate of the Company.

     10.  NOTICES. Any notices provided for in this Option or the Plan shall be
given in writing and shall be deemed effectively given upon receipt or, in the
case of notices delivered by the Company to you, five (5) days after deposit in
the United States mail, postage prepaid, addressed to you at the address
specified below or at such other address as you hereafter designate by written
notice to the Company.

     11.  GOVERNING PLAN DOCUMENT. This Option is subject to all the provisions
of the Plan, a copy of which is attached hereto and its provisions are hereby
made a part of this Option, including without limitation the provisions of
Section 6 of the Plan relating to option provisions, and is further subject to
all interpretations, amendments, rules and regulations which may from time to
time be promulgated and adopted pursuant to the Plan. In the event of any
conflict between the provisions of this Option and those of the Plan, the
provisions of the Plan shall control.

     Dated as of the Notice date.

                                       FIRST VIRTUAL COMMUNICATIONS, INC.

                                       By: /s/
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                                           Duly authorized on behalf of the
                                           Board of Directors

ATTACHMENTS:

     First Virtual Communications, Inc. 1997 Equity Incentive Plan

                                 ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

Optionee acknowledges and agrees that by clicking "I ACCEPT" on the OptionsLink
Online Grant Agreements Web page that:

     (a)  Optionee acknowledges receipt of the Notice, the Option and the
          attachments referenced therein and understands that all rights and
          liabilities with respect to this Option are set forth in the Notice,
          the Option and the Plan; and

     (b)  Optionee acknowledges that as of the date of grant of the Option, the
          documents referred to above under (a) set forth the entire
          understanding between the undersigned Optionee and the Company and its
          Affiliates regarding the acquisition of stock in the Company and
          supersedes all prior oral and written agreements on that subject with
          the exception of the options and any other stock awards previously
          granted and delivered to the undersigned under stock award plans of
          the Company.

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                                                                    EXHIBIT 10.5

                   ADDENDUM TO NOTICE OF GRANT OF STOCK OPTION
                           AND STOCK OPTION AGREEMENT

To: Optionee

Effective [date], you have been granted option number #### to buy #### shares of
common stock of First Virtual Communications, Inc. (the "Company") at $### per
share (the "Option"), subject to the terms and conditions of the Notice of Grant
of Stock Option, the 1997 Equity Incentive Plan, as amended, and the Option
Agreement (together, the "Option Documents"), each of which documents are
incorporated herein by this reference.

At the time the Option was granted to you, the Company had suspended the use of
all registration statements filed with the SEC pursuant to which the Company
issues shares of capital stock, including the registration statements filed with
the SEC on Form S-8 covering employee stock plans and the issuance of shares of
the Company's Common Stock thereunder.

Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained in the Option Documents, and
notwithstanding the fact that you may be vested in shares thereunder, by signing
this Addendum below, you hereby acknowledge that you may not exercise the Option
while the Company is unable to issue the shares upon such exercise in compliance
with all applicable securities laws, that is, until the Company is once again
current in its filings as required by the SEC and the applicable registration
statements on Form S-8 are once again declared effective.

You also acknowledge your understanding that the Company cannot be certain when
it will (and can provide no assurances that it will be able to) comply with
applicable securities laws in order to permit exercise of the Option once the
shares are vested or at any time prior to expiration of the Option.

Your stock options under the Option will continue to vest on their regular
vesting schedule for so long as you continue to be employed by or to serve as an
officer, director or consultant with the Company.

This prohibition on exercising options will continue until the Company is once
again current in its filings as required by the SEC. You will be notified
immediately when the Company can again begin processing option exercises.

                                   ACKNOWLEDGED:

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                                   Optionee

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