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                                                                   Exhibit 10.08

                                PROMISSORY NOTE

Borrower: StrandTek International, Inc.        Lender: ____________________
          455 N. Indian Rocks Road                     ____________________
          Belleair Bluffs, FL 33770                    _____________________

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Principal Amount: $xxx,xxx.00     Interest Rate: 1% over Index
                                  Date of Note: Xxxxxxxx ____, 200X

PROMISE TO PAY. StrandTek International, Inc. ("Borrower") promises to pay to
Xxxxxx Xxxxx ("Lender"), or order, in lawful money of the United States of
America, on demand, the principal amount of Xxxxxxxxxxx and 00/100 Dollars
($xxx,xxx.00) or so much as may be outstanding, together with interest on the
unpaid outstanding principal balance of each advance. Interest shall be
calculated from the date of each advance until repayment of each advance.

PAYMENT. Borrower will pay this loan upon Lender's demand, which demand shall
not be made before Xxxxxxx __, 200X. In addition, Borrower will pay regular
annual payments of all accrued unpaid interest due as of each payment date,
beginning Xxxxxx __, 200X, with all subsequent interest payments to be due on
the same day of each month after that. Interest on this Note is computed on a
simple interest basis; that is, by applying the ratio of the annual interest
rate over a year of 365 days, multiplied by the outstanding principal balance,
multiplied by the actual number of days the principal balance is outstanding.
Borrower will pay Lender at Lender's address shown above or at such other place
as Lender may designate in writing. Unless otherwise agreed or required by
applicable law, payments will be applied first to accrued unpaid interest, then
to principal, and any remaining amount to any unpaid collection costs and late
charges.

VARIABLE INTEREST RATE. The interest rate on this Note is subject to change from
time to time based on changes in an independent index which is the prime rate as
published in the Wall Street Journal. When a range of rates has been published,
the higher of the rates will be used (the "Index"). The Index is not necessarily
the lowest rate charged by Lender on its loans. If the Index becomes unavailable
during the term of this loan, Lender may designate a substitute index after
notice to Borrower. Lender will tell Borrower the current index rate upon
Borrower's request. Borrower understands that Lender may make loans based on
other rates as well. The interest rate change will not occur more often than
each day. The interest rate to be applied to the unpaid principal balance of
this Note will be at a rate of 1.000 percentage point over the Index. NOTICE:
Under no circumstances will the effective rate of interest on this Note be more
than the maximum rate allowed by applicable law.

PREPAYMENT. Borrower may pay without penalty all or a portion of the amount owed
earlier than it is due.

LATE CHARGE.  If a payment is 10 days or more late, Borrower will be charged 5%
of the unpaid portion of the regularly scheduled payment.

DEFAULT. Borrower will be in default if any of the following happens: (a)
Borrower fails to make any payment when due. (b) Borrower breaks any promise
Borrower has made to Lender, or Borrower fails to comply with or to perform when
due any other term, obligation, covenant, or condition contained in this Note or
any agreement related to this Note, or in any other agreement or loan Borrower
has with Lender. (c) Borrower defaults under any loan, extension of credit,
security agreement, purchase or sales agreement, or any other agreement, in
favor of any other creditor or person that may materially affect any of
Borrower's property or Borrower's ability to repay this Note or perform
Borrower's obligations under this Note or any of the Related Documents. (d) Any
representation or statement made or furnished to Lender by Borrower or on
Borrower's behalf is false or misleading in any material respect either now or
at the time made or furnished. (e) Borrower becomes insolvent, a receiver is
appointed for any part of Borrower's property, Borrower makes an assignment for
the benefit of creditors, or any proceeding is commenced either by Borrower or
against Borrower under any bankruptcy or insolvency laws. (f) Any creditor tries
to take any of Borrower's property on or in which Lender has a lien or security
interest. This Includes a garnishment of any of Borrower's accounts with Lender.
(g) Any of the events described in this default section occurs with respect to
any guarantor of this Note. (h) A material adverse change occurs in Borrower's
financial condition, or Lender believes the prospect of payment or performance
of the indebtedness is impaired. (i) Lender in good faith deems itself insecure.

If any default, other than a default in payment, is curable and if Borrower has
not been given a notice of a breach of the same provision of this Note within
the preceding twelve (12) months, it may be cured (and no event of default will
have occurred) if Borrower, after receiving written notice from Lender demanding
cure of such default: (a) cures the default
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within ten (10) days; or (b) if the cure requires more than ten (10) days,
immediately initiates steps which Lender deems in Lender's sole discretion to be
sufficient to cure the default and thereafter continues and completes all
reasonable and necessary steps sufficient to produce compliance as soon as
reasonably practical.

LENDER'S RIGHTS. Upon default, Lender may declare the entire unpaid principal
balance on this Note and all accrued unpaid interest immediately due, without
notice, and then Borrower will pay that amount. Upon default, including failure
to pay upon final maturity, Lender, at its option, may also, if permitted under
applicable law, increase the variable interest rate on this Note to 18.000% per
annum, if and to the extent that the increase does not cause the interest rate
to exceed the maximum rate permitted by applicable law. Lender may hire or pay
someone else to help collect this Note if Borrower does not pay. Borrower also
will pay Lender the amount of these costs and expenses, which includes, subject
to any limits under applicable law, Lender's reasonable attorneys' fees and
Lender's legal expenses whether or not there is a lawsuit, including reasonable
attorneys' fees and legal expenses for bankruptcy proceedings (including efforts
to modify or vacate any automatic stay or injunction), appeals, and any
anticipated post-judgment collection services. If not prohibited by applicable
law, Borrower also will pay any court costs, in addition to all other sums
provided by law. This Note has been delivered to Lender and accepted by Lender
in the State of Florida. If there is a lawsuit, Borrower agrees upon Lender's
request to submit to the jurisdiction of the courts of Pinellas County, the
State of Florida. Lender and Borrower hereby waive the right to any jury trial
in any action, proceeding, or counterclaim brought by either Lender or Borrower
against the other. This Note shall be governed by and construed in accordance
with the laws of the State of Florida.

DISHONORED ITEM FEE. Borrower will pay a fee to Lender of $25.00 if Borrower
makes a payment on Borrower's loan and the check or pre-authorized charge with
which Borrower pays is later dishonored.

NAME OR ADDRESS CHANGE. Borrower will promptly inform Lender within ten (10)
days of any change in the legal name or address of Borrower.

GENERAL PROVISIONS. The inclusion of specific default provisions or rights of
Lender shall not preclude Lender's right to declare payment of this Note
immediately due on its demand. If any part of this Note cannot be enforced, this
fact will not affect the rest of the Note. Borrower does not agree or intend to
pay, and Lender does not agree or intend to contract for, charge, collect, take,
reserve or receive (collectively referred to herein as "charge or collect"), any
amount in the nature of interest or in the nature of a fee for this loan, which
would in any way or event (including demand, prepayment, or acceleration) cause
Lender to charge or collect more for this loan than the maximum Lender would be
permitted to charge or collect by federal law or the law of the State of Florida
(as applicable). Any such excess interest or unauthorized fee shall, instead of
anything stated to the contrary, be applied first to reduce the principal
balance of this loan, and when the principal has been paid in full, be refunded
to Borrower. Lender may delay or forgo enforcing any of its rights or remedies
under this Note without losing them. Borrower and any other person who signs,
guarantees or endorses this Note, to the extent allowed by law, waive
presentment, demand for payment, protest and notice of dishonor. Upon any change
in the terms of this Note, and unless otherwise expressly stated in writing, no
party who signs this Note, whether as maker, guarantor, accommodation maker or
endorser, shall be released from liability. All such parties agree that Lender
may renew or extend (repeatedly and for any length of time) this loan, or
release any party or guarantor or collateral; or impair, fail to realize upon or
perfect Lender's security interest in the collateral; and take any other action
deemed necessary by Lender without the consent of or notice to anyone. All such
parties also agree that Lender may modify this loan without the consent of or
notice to anyone other than the party with whom the modification is made. The
obligations under this Note are joint and several.

PRIOR TO SIGNING THIS NOTE, EACH BORROWER READ AND UNDERSTOOD ALL THE PROVISIONS
OF THIS NOTE, INCLUDING THE VARIABLE INTEREST RATE PROVISIONS. EACH BORROWER
AGREES TO THE TERMS OF THE NOTE AND ACKNOWLEDGES RECEIPT OF A COMPLETED COPY OF
THE NOTE.

BORROWER:

StrandTek International, Inc.

By:_________________________________________
   __________________________, Its PresidentTHIS NOTE HAS NOT BEEN REGISTERED  UNDER THE SECURITIES ACT OF 1933, AS AMENDED,
AND IS TRANSFERABLE ONLY UPON THE CONDITIONS SPECIFIED HEREIN.

                                 PROMISSORY NOTE

                                October 16, 2001

         FOR VALUE RECEIVED, the undersigned,  M&A WEST, INC. ("Maker"),  hereby
promises to pay to the order of VANDERKAM & SANDERS ("Payee"), at 440 Louisiana,
Suite 475, Houston,  Texas 77002, the principal sum of those legal amounts owing
as of the date of this Promissory  Note as well as those legal amounts  incurred
in the future, in lawful money in United States of America, which shall be legal
tender,  in payment of all debts and dues,  public and  private,  at the time of
payment,  bearing interest and payable as provided herein. The maximum amount of
past and future legal billings shall not exceed $100,000.

         Interest on the unpaid balance of legal services  rendered shall accrue
30 days  after  amounts  owed  are  invoiced  at a rate per  annum  equal to 4%;
provided,  however,  that such  interest  shall not exceed the  Maximum  Rate as
hereinafter  defined. All past-due principal and interest shall bear interest at
the maximum rate permitted by applicable  law.  Interest will be computed on the
basis of a 360-day year of twelve 30-day months.

         The principal amount and accrued interest of this Note shall be due and
payable on March 25,  2002.  The Note may be renewed for  additional  thirty day
periods at the option of the Payee.

         This Note may be prepaid in whole or in part, at any time and from time
to time, without premium or penalty.

         If any payment of  principal  or interest on this Note shall become due
on a Saturday,  Sunday or any other day on which national banks are not open for
business, such payment shall be made on the next succeeding business day.
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         This Note shall be binding  upon and inure to the  benefit of the Payee
named herein and Payee's respective  successors and assigns. Each holder of this
Note,  by  accepting  the  same,  agrees  to and  shall  be  bound by all of the
provisions  of this  Note.  Payee may  assign  this  Note or any of its  rights,
interests  or  obligations  to this Note without the prior  written  approval of
Maker.

         In consideration  for legal services  provided and legal services to be
provided in the future,  Maker  grants Payee a security  interest in  11,725,449
shares of common  stock of  Venturelist.com,  Inc. as  evidenced by the Security
Agreement attached hereto as Exhibit "B.".

         No  provision  of this Note  shall  alter or impair the  obligation  of
Maker, which is absolute and unconditional, to pay the principal of and interest
on this Note at the times, places and rates, and in the coin or currency, herein
prescribed.

         Notwithstanding  anything  to the  contrary  in this  Note or any other
agreement entered into in connection herewith, whether now existing or hereafter
arising and whether  written or oral,  it is agreed  that the  aggregate  of all
interest  and  any  other  charges  constituting  interest,  or  adjudicated  as
constituting  interest,  and contracted for, chargeable or receivable under this
Note or  otherwise  in  connection  with this loan  transaction,  shall under no
circumstances exceed the Maximum Rate. In the event the maturity of this Note is
accelerated  by reason of an Event of Default under this Note,  other  agreement
entered into in  connection  herewith or therewith,  by voluntary  prepayment by
Maker or otherwise, then earned interest may never include more than the Maximum
Rate,  computed from the dates of each advance of the loan proceeds  outstanding
until  payment.  If from any  circumstance  any  holder of this Note  shall ever
receive interest or any other charges constituting  interest,  or adjudicated as
constituting  interest,  the amount, if any, which would exceed the Maximum Rate
shall be applied to the  reduction of the  principal  amount owing on this Note,
and not to the payment of interest;  or if such excessive  interest  exceeds the
unpaid balance of principal hereof,  the amount of such excessive  interest that
exceeds the unpaid  balance of principal  hereof shall be refunded to Maker.  In
determining  whether or not the  interest  paid or payable  exceeds  the Maximum
Rate, to the extent  permitted by applicable  law (i) any  nonprincipal  payment
shall be  characterized  as an expense,  fee or premium rather than as interest;
and (ii) all interest at any time contracted for, charged, received or preserved
in connection  herewith  shall be amortized,  prorated,  allocated and spread in
equal parts  during the period of the full  stated  term of this Note.  The term
"Maximum  Rate" shall mean the maximum  rate of interest  allowed by  applicable
federal or state law.
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         Except as  provided  herein,  Maker and any  sureties,  guarantors  and
endorsers of this Note jointly and severally do not waive  demand,  presentment,
notice of  nonpayment  or dishonor,  notice of intent to  accelerate,  notice of
acceleration, diligence in collecting, grace, notice and protest, and consent to
all  extensions  without  notice for any  period or periods of time and  partial
payments, before or after maturity,  without prejudice to the holder. The holder
shall similarly have the right to deal in any way, at any time, with one or more
of the foregoing  parties with notice to any other party,  and to grant any such
party any  extensions  of time for  payment of any of said  indebtedness,  or to
grant any other  indulgences  or forbearance  whatsoever,  without notice to any
other party and without in any way affecting the personal liability of any party
hereunder.  If any  efforts  are made to  collect  or  enforce  this Note or any
installment due hereunder,  the undersigned  agrees to pay all collection  costs
and fees, including reasonable attorney's fees.

         This Note shall be construed and enforced under and in accordance  with
the laws of the State of Texas.

         IN WITNESS WHEREOF, Maker has duly executed this Note as of the day and
year first above written.

                                      M&A WEST, INC.

                                      By /s/ Patrick R. Greene
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                                      Patrick R. Greene, Chief Executive Officer

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