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                                                                    Exhibit 10.4
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                                PROMISSORY NOTE
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$ 400,735.74
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                                              MAY 5, 2000

                                              WESTBORO, MASSACHUSETTS
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     For value received, WILLIAM P. FERRY (the "Borrower") promises to pay to
the order of Banyan Systems Incorporated, a Massachusetts corporation (d/b/a
ePresence) (the "Company") at the offices of the Company or such other place as
the Company hereafter shall designate Four Hundred Thousand Seven Hundred
Thirty-Five Dollars and Seventy-Four Cents ($400,735.74) to satisfy his federal
and state tax obligations with respect to the issuance to him of Sixty-Four
Thousand Shares (the "Restricted Shares") of the Company's Common Stock at $0.01
per share, pursuant to the Executive Officer Restricted Stock Agreement dated
October 16, 1998.  Interest shall accrue on a daily basis on the unpaid balance
from time to time outstanding at the rate of prime less 1% per annum, beginning
May 5, 2000 or the day after SEC restrictions on the sale of these shares
lapses, whichever is later.  The principal and all accrued interest of this Note
shall be repaid in full on May 5, 2001; provided however, that the Borrower
shall repay this Note before such date as provided below.

     The Borrower acknowledges that this Note must be repaid in full prior to
the due date upon the sale by the Borrower of the 64,000 Restricted Shares of
Common Stock of the Company issued to the Borrower on April 16, 2000.

     At the option of the Company, this Note shall become immediately due and
payable without notice or demand on the occurrence at any time of any of the
following events ("Events of Default"):

(1)  Borrower's voluntary termination of his employment with the Company for any
     reason prior to the repayment in full of the principal and any accrued
     interest due and payable on this Note; or

(2)  the institution by the Borrower of any proceedings under the United States
     Bankruptcy Code or the pendency of any bankruptcy or insolvency proceeding
     against the Borrower for a period of 60 days from the institution thereof
     or the making by the Borrower of an assignment for the benefit of
     creditors.

     Upon the occurrence of any of the Events of Default, the Company shall have
then, or at any time thereafter, all of the rights and remedies afforded by the
Uniform Commercial Code as from time to time in effect in the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts or afforded by other applicable law.

     In no event shall any interest charged, collected or reserved under this
Note exceed the maximum rate then permitted by applicable law and if any such
payment is paid by the holder as a payment of principal.

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     All payments by the Borrower under this Note shall be made without set-off
or counterclaim and be free and clear and without deduction or withholding for
any taxes or fees of any nature whatever, unless the obligation to make such
deduction or withholding is imposed by law.  The Borrower shall pay and save the
holder harmless from all liabilities with respect to or resulting from any delay
or omission to make any such deduction or withholding required by law.

     Whenever any amount is paid under this Note, all or part of the amount paid
may be applied to principal, interest, premium or interest in such order and
manner as shall be determined by the holder in its discretion.

     No reference in this Note to any other document shall impair the obligation
of the Borrower, which is absolute and unconditional, to pay all amounts under
this Note strictly in accordance with the terms of this Note.

     No delay or omission on the part of the Company in exercising any right
hereunder shall operate as a waiver of such right or of any other right of such
Company, nor shall any delay, omission or waiver on any one occasion be deemed a
bar to or waiver of the same or any other right on any future occasion.

     The Borrower waives presentment, demand, notice, protest and all other
demands and notices in connection with the delivery, acceptance, performance,
default or enforcement hereof and also waives any delay on the part of the
Company.  No discharge or release of any other party primarily or secondarily
liable hereon shall discharge or otherwise affect the liability of the Borrower
to the Company.

     None of the terms or provisions of this Note may be excluded, modified, or
amended except by a written instrument duly executed on behalf of the Borrower
expressly referring hereto and setting forth the provision so excluded, modified
or amended.

     The Borrower will pay on demand all costs of collection, including
reasonable attorney's fees, incurred by the Company in enforcing the obligations
created by this Note.

     This Note shall be binding upon the Borrower and each endorser and
guarantor hereof and upon their heirs, successors and representatives, and shall
inure to the benefit of the Company and its successors, endorsees and assigns.

     This Note shall be governed by, and construed and enforced in accordance
with, the substantive laws of The Commonwealth of Massachusetts, without regard
to its principled of conflicts of laws.  This Note shall be deemed to be under
seal.

WITNESS:                             BORROWER:

Signed in my Presence:

  /s/ Richard M. Spaulding             /s/ William P. Ferry
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Richard M. Spaulding                 William P. Ferry

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                                                                    EXHIBIT 10.5
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                            SECURED PROMISSORY NOTE
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                                  May 5, 2000

$52,460.74                                               Westboro, Massachusetts
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          For value received, Richard Spaulding (the "Borrower") promises to pay
to the order of Banyan Systems Incorporated, a Massachusetts corporation (d/b/a
ePresence) (the "Company"), at the offices of the Company or such other place as
the Company hereafter shall designate Fifty-Two Thousand Four Hundred Sixty
Dollars and Seventy-Four Cents ($52,460.74) to satisfy his federal and state tax
obligations with respect to the vesting of 13,600 shares of restricted stock of
the Company (the "Shares"), pursuant to the Executive Officer Restricted Stock
Agreement dated OCTOBER 16, 1998 (the "Agreement"), in which a total of 34,000
restricted shares of common stock of the Company were issued and sold to the
Borrower.  Interest shall accrue on a daily basis on the unpaid principal
balance from time to time outstanding at the rate of prime less 1% per annum,
beginning on the date that first appears above.  The principal and all accrued
interest of this Note shall be repaid in full on August 5, 2001. This Note shall
immediately become due and payable in full, as provided below.

          The Borrower acknowledges that this Note must be repaid in full prior
to the due date, upon the sale by the Borrower of any of the Shares.

          Payment of this Note is secured by a security interest in the Shares,
pursuant to a pledge agreement of even date herewith between the Company and the
Borrower (the "Pledge Agreement").  This Note is recourse to the Borrower for
the entire principal sum borrowed, plus interest, and is subject to, and secured
by, and entitled to the benefits of the Pledge Agreement.

          At the option of the Company, this Note shall become immediately due
and payable without notice or demand upon the occurrence at any time of any of
the following events ("Events of Default"):

     (1) Borrower's voluntary termination of his employment with the Company for
         any reason prior to the repayment in full of the principal and any
         accrued interest due and payable on this Note; or

     (2) If Borrower is not paying his debts as they become due, becomes
         insolvent, files or has filed against him a petition under any chapter
         of the United States Bankruptcy Code, 11 U.S.C. (S) 101 et seq. (or any
         similar petition under any insolvency law of any jurisdiction),
         proposes any liquidation, composition or financial reorganization with
         his creditors, makes an assignment or trust mortgage for the benefit of
         creditors, or if a receiver, trustee, custodian or similar agent is
         appointed or takes possession with respect to any property or business
         of the Borrower; or

     (3) The occurrence of any Default (as defined therein) under the Pledge
         Agreement.

          Upon the occurrence of any of the Events of Default, the Company shall
have then, or at any time thereafter, all of the rights and remedies afforded by
the Uniform Commercial Code as from time to time in effect in the Commonwealth
of Massachusetts or afforded by other applicable law or under this Note or the
Pledge Agreement.

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          Upon the involuntary termination of Borrower by the Company prior to
the repayment in full of the principal amount and any accrued interest due and
payable on this Note, Borrower shall have 90 days from the date of such
termination to repay the principal and any accrued interest under this Note.

          In no event shall any interest charged, collected or reserved under
this Note exceed the maximum rate then permitted by applicable law and if any
such payment is paid by the holder such payment shall be treated as a payment of
principal.

          All payments by the Borrower under this Note shall be made without
set-off or counterclaim and shall be free and clear and without deduction or
withholding for any taxes or fees of any nature whatever, unless the obligation
to make such deduction or withholding is imposed by law.  The Borrower shall pay
and save the holder harmless from all liabilities with respect to or resulting
from any delay or omission to make any such deduction or withholding required by
law.

          Whenever any amount is paid under this Note, all or part of the amount
paid may be applied to principal, interest, premium or interest in such order
and manner as shall be determined by the  holder in its discretion.

          No reference in this Note to any other document shall impair the
obligation of the Borrower, which is absolute and unconditional, to pay all
amounts under this Note strictly in accordance with the terms of this Note.

          No delay or omission on the part of the Company in exercising any
right hereunder shall operate as a waiver of such right or of any other right of
such Company, nor shall any delay, omission or waiver on any one occasion be
deemed a bar to or waiver of the same or any other right on any future occasion.

          The Borrower waives presentment, demand, notice, protest and all other
demands and notices in connection with the delivery, acceptance, performance,
default or enforcement hereof and also waives any delay on the part of the
Company.  No discharge or release of any other party primarily or secondarily
liable hereon shall discharge or otherwise affect the liability of the Borrower
to the Company.

          None of the terms or provisions of this Note may be excluded,
modified, or amended except by a written instrument duly executed on behalf of
the Borrower expressly referring hereto and setting forth the provision so
excluded, modified or amended.

          The Borrower will pay on demand all costs of collection, including
reasonable attorney's fees, incurred by the Company in enforcing the obligations
under or in connection with this Note or the Pledge Agreement.

          This Note shall be binding upon the Borrower and each endorser and
guarantor hereof and upon their heirs, successors and representatives, and shall
inure to the benefit of the Company and its successors, endorsees and assigns.

          This Note may be prepaid in whole or in part at any time or from time
to time with the consent of the holder, with the giving of such consent to be in
the sole discretion of the holder, provided that the Company shall retain the
security interest in the Shares under the Pledge Agreement until the principal
amount and accrued interest under this Note are paid in full.  Any prepayment
shall be without premium or penalty.

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          The Borrower irrevocably submits to the jurisdiction of the courts of
the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and the United States District Court for the
District of Massachusetts for the purpose of any suit, action or other
proceeding brought by the Company arising out of or relating to this Agreement,
and the Borrower waives and agrees not to assert by way of motion, as a defense
or otherwise in any such suit, action or proceeding, any claim that the Borrower
is not personally subject to the jurisdiction of the courts of the Commonwealth
of Massachusetts or the United States District Court for the District of
Massachusetts or that the Borrower's property is exempt or immune from execution
or attachment, either prior to judgment or in aid of execution, that the suit,
action or proceeding is brought in an inconvenient forum or that the venue of
the suit, action or proceeding is improper, or that this Note or the subject
matter hereof may not be enforced in or by such court.

          This Note shall be governed by, and construed and enforced in
accordance with, the substantive laws of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts,
without regard to its principles of conflicts of laws.  This Note shall be
deemed to be under seal.

THE PLEDGOR HEREBY WAIVES ANY AND ALL RIGHTS TO A TRIAL BY JURY IN ANY ACTION OR
PROCEEDING IN CONNECTION WITH ALL MATTERS CONTEMPLATED HEREBY AND DOCUMENTS
EXECUTED IN CONNECTION HEREWITH.

WITNESS:                             BORROWER:

Signed in my Presence:

/s/ John P. Mitchell                 /s/  Richard M. Spaulding
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[Name]                               Richard Spaulding

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