Attempts to install Cygwin on a win7 box forced regedit, sys-restore, %format c: /q and nearly an "office space" moment ...yet the poor laptop is all patched. I still want a c-shell...I guess u guys call it bash now. suggestions, criticism or "bashing me" as my CSC 101 professor said Ada was the LAST WORD in programming languages are welcome. I love C++STL. I learned to code in C using Top-Down design...yes I'm old.