On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:58 PM, njsmith <notifications@github.com> wrote:

> Hi Colin, I honestly have no idea what you're trying to insinuate about
> the connection between the Space Telescope, SciPy, and scikit-learn (??),
> but I don't think it's helping anything. Nor is simply posting over and
> over in different forums that you like Matrix and Vector classes. We know
> that now :-). But just saying that is not going to convince anyone to like
> them with you. Realistically, my best guess is that nothing you say is
> likely to convince anyone of anything, given that np.matrix has come to its
> present state of poor reputation through years of experience, and it isn't
> clear you even understand why most numpy developers and users are convinced
> that the approach is fundamentally flawed and unfixable. But if you really
> want to try, then the place to do that is the numpy-discussion list, and
> the way to do that is to understand and engage with specific the problems
> people have raised.
>
This keeps coming up (and not by just one or two isolated people) because
the PEP doesn't convincingly show that a better Matrix class than np.matrix
isn't a viable alternative.