everything seems to work except for 2 or 3 snags, 1) cant open file in home folder... i think its the version of linux im running but ive tried everything it just wont do it. so i made it open the log file in current directory. 2) used fopen and fprintf and it for some reason wont write to the file. mae sure im appending but still nothing... i can fix this using low level open but it bugs me that fopen wont work, evern though it is set up correctly... 3) the moles do get killed when the propper signal is sent, however they still appear in the in the process list with the label <defunct> not sure if this is a bug or not. ill keep working on this project but for now this is what i have done