Thing is the other gae runtime that comes with the plugin is always out of date. All of these aren't needed yet, but I'm running out of steam to test them. I've been driving it hard to try to get that maven plugin more up todate, so hes been keeping more up to date, but I've been displaying this as the method to use b/c it gives the end user more control on the gae runtime used. Otherwise we are dependent on the owner of the plugin to release the most up todate gae runtime, which I rather don't like b/c its often out of date. In this case someone, maybe me, has to drill testing more with out the jdo type dependencies. :)