# Talk:Russian Five

Isn't the Russian Five also a group of classical music composers?
I think it was Balakirev, Cui, Borodin, Mussorgsky and Rimsky-Korsakov. (If school classes served me right)
Can someone who knows more than me fill in a page for this? The above is about as far as my knowledge on the subject goes.  
Also known as the Mighty Five and Mighty Handful

I know that this is a little old but yea you are right the article is here The Mighty Five. again it might be old but if you are still wondering William McCormick 09:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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IP user 188.65.245.47 has been trying to make an edit countring Devellano's claim about America's protrayal of Russia. My chief concern is that none of the sources directly discuss American media, only Russian media. I also noted that the Washington Examiner link is marked with "No Consensus" on WP:RSP. I'm open to other's thoughts, but I don't believe the edit should be added as-is. I've included it in full below for your consideration.
"It should be noted, however, that American propaganda never sought to depict the Russian people as the enemy, focusing only on the doings of the Soviet government. Meanwhile, the USSR frequently depicted all the Americans as the enemy."
Please use the space below to discuss. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 08:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello!
There is quote in the final paragraph that misrepresents what Cold War propaganda was about. It leaves an impression that the US government was actively working to depict all Russians as the enemy of an average American, something that is not entirely true. Meanwhile, it fails to mention the Soviet government's anti-Americanism and its influence on the minds of the Soviet citizens. I would propose adding some information about that, similar to what I added before it was removed. If you think it can be made more neutral, please feel free to voice your ideas.
Thank you!
188.65.245.47 (talk) 08:16, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

That's not why that quote is there at all. It's a specific quote from one of the main players that brought the Russian Five to Detroit, and it's his own words talking about how the impact meeting those guys had on him. It's directly relevant to the subject of the article. The things you're trying to add are just purely political for politics' sake. In other words, they don't belong here. JimKaatFan (talk) 14:57, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

I went ahead and addressed the issues that the reviewer pointed out. A small handful of them were not addressed, detailed here with my responses to the reviewer:

11 of the sources are to the same source - This makes it seem like we have much more talking about the topic than we are.
It's true that the book "Russian Five" is cited 11 times. However, that's because the book contains a wealth of knowledge of the subject of the article, and I cited items from many different chapters. Also, there are now 25 other sources in the article. I do feel that 26 total sources is plenty.
Could you add some ISBNs and page numbers?
I added ISBNs. I have only the e-book, not the hard copy, and the page numbers change based on the size of the window that I use when reading the book in iBooks. There's no preview of the book available in Google Books. Also, Wikipedia:Good article criteria does not mention page numbers as a criterion.
The word "defect" is used here, and I have no idea why. The countries aren't at war
Defections from the Soviet Union to the United States during the Cold War were plentiful - we even have an entire category called "Soviet defectors to the United States" and a List of Soviet and Eastern Bloc defectors. Sources use the word "defect" with regards to the three players' journeys to the NHL.
The first image seem completely irrelevent.
All five players played in the jersey in that image before they came to the NHL. I didn't add the image originally, but I think it's relevant, so I left it.
Most of the article talks about 1990, and then jumps to 1997
I don't see this. The article talks about every single season, in some context, between 1988 and 1998. I don't know what jump you're referring to. JimKaatFan (talk) 16:55, 27 August 2020 (UTC)