# Talk:The Smiths (album)

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Nominator: Cathodography (talk · contribs) 03:07, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Ippantekina (talk · contribs) 04:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Probably one of the most important albums... and one that was part of my sexual awakening. Happy to review this! Ippantekina (talk) 04:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

@Ippantekina: Are you still interested in reviewing? Cattos💭 23:25, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
Yes, do expect some days though. Ippantekina (talk) 02:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
Alright, below is my review.


#### Quick checks+Media checks
Earwig copyvio check is fine at 35.9%
File:The Smiths The Smiths.jpg has appropriate non-free use rationale Y
File:Flesh (1968) Joe Dallesandro and Louis Waldon (1200 dpi).jpg is freely licensed Y
Do we have any audio sample that can be used?
Suggest adding {{short description}} manually


#### Prose
Link Patti Smith in the first instance
Done Cattos💭 19:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
Link demo
Done Cattos💭 19:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
I think the Marr quote in the Background section is rather lengthy. Could we paraphrase it or cut it down?
Done Cattos💭 19:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
Link overdub
Done Cattos💭 19:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
"observed", "noticing" are neutral voice while this is a subjective opinion (MOS:SAID)
Done Cattos💭 19:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
"Bands such as the Velvet Underground and the Stooges were particularly influential at the time" you mean influential on the Smiths?
On the Smiths. Done Cattos💭 19:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
"before abruptly shifting in tempo by the rhythm section's intensified drive." what does "drive" mean here?
Rephrased with "intensity". Cattos💭 19:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
"a more conventional the Smiths arrangement" how "conventional" is the band's arrangement? Is it specific instruments, genres etc?
Doesn't the "centred around Andy Rourke's bass line and Marr's guitar", which the sentence later describes, already explain it? Cattos💭 19:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
I wouldn't say so... it's kinda jargon-y.
Removed the redundant "conventional". Cattos💭 20:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
"introduces a more conventional rock structure" is this the right word? Maybe incorporates, features, displays etc?
Replaced with "incorporates" Cattos💭 20:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
You might want to re-examine the content and order of the 2nd+3rd paragraphs in the "Artwork and release" section as they overlap in places.
Done Cattos💭 20:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
Ditto "Commercial performance" section; is this necessary when it reprises the charts and sales info that had been cited earlier?
Removed section. Cattos💭 20:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
Isn't New Musical Express the same as NME which had been linked prior?
Done Cattos💭 20:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the Cream commentary worthy of a standalone paragraph?
Moved Cattos💭 20:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
Are there enough reviews for the retrospective critics' scores table?
I could only find Beats Per Minute, which are four retrospective reviews in total.
Some book sources are referenced with {{sfn}} while some others with the conventional <ref>. May I know why? If there are no particular reasons, please be consistency with sourcing syntax.
Because these references were initially formatted without sfns since they only cite a single page, making short citations unnecessary. Cattos💭 20:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
Hey, sorry for getting back to this so late. Prose-wise the article is fine. I've done spotchecks here and there, no issue, although I do AGF on the print sources which I don't have access to. Overall, a good article :) Nice work on this seminal album! Ippantekina (talk) 02:38, 2 June 2025 (UTC)