# Talk:T Express

It says in the article that T Express was retracked for the 2024 season by Rocky Mountain Construction. What is incorrect is that the same sentence mentions that Rocky Mountain Construction also built El Toro. This is partially incorrect information. Intamin designed and built El Toro, but they also subcontracted Rocky Mountain Construction to help build that ride for the 2006 season at Six Flags Great Adventure. Please edit this. Thank you. 208.125.139.162 (talk) 18:48, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi y'all, some of y'all may know that T Express recently underwent the RMC 208 ReTraK procedure, replacing parts of its wooden tracks with steel ones, de facto making it a "hybrid" coaster. However, I don't think I saw an RS calling T Express a hybrid coaster yet. So, should I continue calling it a steel coaster in this article or should I use "hybrid coaster" instead? Also, although it is stated that retracking was done in the RSes I found, the RSes don't really mention the RMC 208 ReTrak specifically and just mention a general steel retracking. In that case, would just citing a self published source (e.g. from an RMC website or social media post) be sufficient for adding the RMC 208 ReTraK bit, or should I not include that all? Thanks. ~Δ (delta • t • c) 02:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

First of all, coasters have historically been defined by their track, which is typically either wood or steel. The term "hybrid" has been loosely used in the past in marketing materials and news articles (occasionally other sources) to describe a coaster that has wood track with steel supports, or vice versa (steel track with wood supports).The newer use of hybrid also includes this new mixture of wood and steel track, like we saw with Lightning Rod at Dollywood where approximately 57 percent of the wooden track was replaced with steel I-Box. RCDB ended up reclassifying the coaster as a steel coaster. In this case with T Express, 380 meters of track being converted to steel means that only about 23 percent of the track was impacted, so less than half. My guess is that RCDB won't reclassify this one and it will remain listed as "wood". If other reputable sources are calling it a "hybrid roller coaster", then we can mention that in running prose somewhere in the article, but in the opening lead sentence, I think it should still state it is a wooden coaster. Then a sentence or two later, we can mention that a portion of the track was converted to steel for the 2024 season. --GoneIn60 (talk) 23:14, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
@GoneIn60:  Done changed back to wood pending sources ~Δ (delta • t • c) 02:38, 14 June 2024 (UTC)