# Talk:WrestleMania IX

Pretty sure that is not the official WM9 poster. The poster was the image of Bret Hart's face on the hotel.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.209.220 (talk) 21:07, 6 June 2019 (UTC) 

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BetacommandBot (talk) 12:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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If someone is reading this page, there's a good chance they know how pro wrestling works --Smart Mark Greene (talk) 03:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually it is necessary per WP:IN-U and WP:FICTION. Please stop removing it. Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 16:38, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I believe you are mistaken. Nowhere in the article does it suggest this was a pure athletic contest, and furtermore, mentions of "booking" and other wrestling terms are used throughout. Also, this is the only pro wrestling article I have found that has that ridiculous notice at the top. I am removing it once again, and I ask you to please stop putting it back. It does nothing positive for the article. --Smart Mark Greene (talk) 19:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
WP:JARGON. "Booked" and other wrestling slang isn't understand by those who aren't wrestling fans. Also, see SummerSlam (2003) (a featured article) and The Great American Bash (2005) (which is also a featured article). ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 22:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Even though we are not required to explain how movies work in articles about movies, or TV or any other form of fiction, just wrestling. I think it's idiotic and have been against it from the start. TJ Spyke 16:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
This has to stop. What's next, going to the wiki page for MASH and stating over and over again they weren't really doctors in Korea? --Smart Mark Greene (talk) 19:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
That argument has been made countless times before. It's about as effective and meaningful as "The government wants to ban assault weapons? What's next--closing down homeless shelters?" M*A*S*H never pretended to be real, so your analogy is flawed. Deleting the information will be treated as vandalism, as clarification that the events are scripted is required by Wikipedia guidelines. I will readily admit that the phrasing needs some fine-tuning, however, so if you would care to work with WP:PW on fixing it up, that would be wonderful. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
If it is "required" than please tell me why this is the only wrestling article that has this. I think there's a chance you are mistaken that this is needed. As I stated above, there is enough phrasing in the article that this is not needed, nor have I seen any proof that it is required. Constantly putting this back, and accusing me of vandalism is frankly pretty childish.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.26.33.108 (talk) 03:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I forgot to sign in before making the above comment. I think we need this issue resolved, how do we go about doing it? I really don't want to get in to an edit war, but I also really think we should remove the paragraph in question until this is resolved. You, GaryColemanFan, appear to know more about wikipedia than I, so you tell me where we go from here. --Smart Mark Greene (talk) 04:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Every pay-per-view article that has been expanded in the past two months includes this sort of disclaimer. It came up in Featured Article reviews, where it was determined that it is necessary to include this sort of statement if wrestling articles can ever be considered among Wikipedia's best. I'll be completely honest--I don't particularly like it myself. I think there is probably a good way to shorten it and make it sound a little less insulting to wrestling fans. I haven't figured out what it is, yet, but I'm sure it exists. It is important to keep in mind, however, that no Wikipedia article should be written with only a specific group of readers in mind. Every article should be accessible to anyone who might read it, whether they come across it via a wikilink, the random article link, as a GA or FA reviewer, or as a wrestling fan looking for information. GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
What about something to the effect of "This was a professional wrestling event, with all matched having predetermined outcomes". I've had similar problems on other wresting articles. One problem I've seen is overkill in telling the reader that it's "fake", i.e. the words 'scripted' or 'worked' in every sentence. I wish I could remember which article this was in, but there was one that  featured lines such as "they were booked to win the titles...", which I argued didn't actually say whether they won them or were just booked to, and it was reverted to "they won the titles". Anyway, I'm starting to ramble. What do you think of my proposed disclaimer? --Smart Mark Greene (talk) 05:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
A new discussion regarding this have been opened here. Feel free to join in. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 14:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I removed the text because it's pointless wiki bureaucratting and insisting that it be added is acting in bad faith (but it's in the ruuuuules guyz). Everyone knows wrestling is scripted and there's no real reason to include it.Lusy (talk) 22:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:WrestleMania IX/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Hi, I am reviewing your article for GA. I have already read through it and see no basic problems or areas in need of fixing. One question though. In the sentence "The match between the Steiner Brothers (Rick and Scott) and The Headshrinkers (Samu and Fatu) had little building,..." I assume you mean little buildup? Perhaps you should clarify or wikiling, since it sounds like jargon.  —Mattisse (Talk) 21:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I replaced "building" (which was a typo) with "background" in order to remove the jargon. GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Although you link names in the lead, perhaps you should link them at first mention in the body of the article. Granted, I am not familiar with the topic, but I had to use "find"  to determine if there were links to Tatanka and Shawn Michaels in the first sentence under Background. It's up to you. Perhaps most readers are more sophisticated on the subject than I am. I have only heard of Hulk Hogan, plus some names I recognize from your last article, like Sensational Sherri.
Definitely a good point, especially since I wasn't even consistent with this (eg. Bret Hart was linked in both places, but Tatanka was only linked in one). I added the wikilinks to the background section. GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Final GA review (see here for criteria)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):Very well written.  b (MoS): No obvious MoS issues 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): Well referenced  b (citations to reliable sources): Sources appear reliable.  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): Covers the event thoroughly  b (focused): Remains well focused 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: Presents a neutral point of view 

It is stable.
No edit wars etc.: 

It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

—Mattisse (Talk) 18:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

"Hulk Hogan was never scheduled to drop the WWF Championship to Bret Hart". How can this be written with a reference to only Hogan's opinion in a 2010 interview in "The Sun" ? Photos were actually made, with Hart & Hogan with the title belt, to prepare a Hart vs Hogan match @ Summerslam '93. That a match was scheduled is not 100% sure (it is, according to Bret Hart), but that no match were scheduled is only Hogan's opinion & is not 100% sure either ! Asmodeos666 (talk) 13:25, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

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