# Talk:T48 Gun Motor Carriage

As an explanatory note the article has "The 57 mm gun could penetrate the Tiger's rear hull armor and the top of its turret". While true - though I'm not sure how you get the gun to aim at the Tiger's turret top - it seems unlikely to me that this was relevant when the British requirement was drawn up. The Tiger didn't go into action until September 1942 and didn't appear in North Africa (and Tunisia, not the Western Desert) until December 1942. That the 6-pdr was at the time the latest British anti-tank gun available to be used against any German tank is more likely. GraemeLeggett (talk) 22:03, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

This seems unlikely. It takes minimum of 2 (loader and gunner) to work 6-pdr, add in driver and gun commander and you get to four - same as Deacon. Do the sources say "3" total or 3 to work gun? GraemeLeggett (talk) 23:35, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Corrected, Graeme, it is five (sourced here in The Second edition of the Standard Catalog of U.S. Military Vehicles).--Tomandjerry211 (talk) 23:49, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Su-57 redirects here, but according to [1] it seems this will be the official name of Sukhoi PAK FA.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.44.100.59 (talk) 16:50, 1 August 2017 (UTC) 

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