# Talk:Yoga pants

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 22 September 2022 and 8 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Olivia0831 (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Olivia0831 (talk) 04:50, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

The requirement for a lead image is that it illustrates the subject clearly and plainly, at good resolution, well lit, and in focus. The image File:Wunder_Groove_Crop.jpg seems to me to achieve this admirably: the contrast is good, the light bright, the product clearly visible, its nature well seen. The undiscussed "proposed" replacement File:Wrap Pant 1.jpg seems to be focused on the subject's elbow; the yoga pants are actually almost unseen, in a dull flat light with poor contrast, out of focus, and cropped off at the bottom of the image; most of the image is peripheral to the yoga pants, or to put it another way, the yoga pants don't seem to have been the photographer's subject of interest for the photograph. The side view is curious and uninformative. In short, we have a much better image already in place, and no reason to switch. I note that the blurry image is of a Lululemon product. If this were a Lululemon page, then that'd be a reason for finding an image from that company: but even then, we'd definitely want something better than this sorry apology for a photograph. As it happens, yoga pants are now made by many companies, and we carry no brief for anyone. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

This article is essentially a carefully crafted Lululemon PR-article. 
The article defines yoga pants as high density nylon pants, but yoga pants have historically existed in all kinds of materials and shapes: natural and synthetic, short, tight and loose - the Lululemon version is just one out of many, and its coming to market decades after other variants.
The company did not invent nylon & Lycra yoga pants, which have existed for several decades before the company - they simply made them popular. The article - which is clearly written by Lululemons PR team - even mentions Chip Wilson getting the idea from watching women exercise in stretchy nylon pants. This means he made the concept popular with his design.
The article is entirely biased. Every part links to Lululemon and is designed for SEO-purposes, not for encyclopedic information. Even the image is just a keyword optimization for their own product.
This article needs to be entirely revised for neutrality and historical accuracy. Lululemon did not invent yoga pants as is stated in the article itself. Lassi-823 (talk) 09:58, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinions. However, the article is cited to a very large number of reliable independent sources, 39 to be exact, and none of them are from Lululemon or its employees. The sources include The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Guardian, major international newspapers. There are writings by scholars of yoga such as Andrea Jain and Mark Singleton. There are major business research sources like Fortune and Bloomberg. There are critical sites like The Atlantic and Verge. In short, the sources are not just numerous but diverse and reputable, covering different aspects of the subject. The article could hardly be less like a commercial. These authorities inevitably mention Lululemon, for the good reason that it played a major role in the commercialisation and diffusion of yoga pants. The article would be remiss not to follow the cited authorities in making that point. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:41, 13 June 2025 (UTC)