# Talk:Red velvet cake

I've tried to explained my edits via the edit summaries, but happy to discuss further! Valereee (talk) 16:55, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Red velvet cake can be found on many menus in many cities. That the NYT says so about New York doesn't mean it makes sense for Wikipedia to imply that New York stands out in this regard. It's like writing in the Coffee article, "Coffee is served after dinner in many New York restaurants", as though New York were unusual in that respect. Largoplazo (talk) 17:18, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
Exactly, thanks for stating it so clearly. Valereee (talk) 18:44, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

I think there should be some mention about the cake's recent association with Valentine's Day. The recent edits removed all mentions of Valentine's Day other than the category. While the association with Christmas is far older (dating back to the late 20th century, vs. the early 2010s for Valentine's Day), I think there should be some mention. I understand the Christmas association is more based on tradition, while the Valentine's Day association was more driven by marketing. ANDROS1337TALK 17:04, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Is there a source? Valereee (talk) 17:47, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Looking through search results, I see an awful lot of recipes and ads individually connecting red velvet cake with Valentines Day. What I haven't found yet is a reliable source observing that this is a commonly made association. If that exists then, yes, it should be covered. Otherwise, it's WP:OR. Largoplazo (talk) 17:48, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
I think this issue is that this association is fairly recent and is more marketing-driven, vs. the more traditional association with Christmas that has existed since the late 20th century. In recent years I have seen more red velvet products during Valentine's Day than during the traditional Christmas holiday season, but as I said, this was largely driven in recent years by marketing and has no historic connection with Valentine's Day. ANDROS1337TALK 18:18, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
I too wasn't able to find any mentions of this connection in RS. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:32, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Not sure about Valentines. I did find some information on seasonal trends via Mintel:
"The nostalgic and emotional factor towards seasonal flavors can often outweigh the [consumer's concerns about] artificial components. In many fall/winter baked goods and beverages, classic desserts become a flavor in itself, such as red velvet cake and crème brulee." & "types of desserts, such as red velvet cake and crème brulee, [were] serving as inspiration for seasonal beverages" - Seasonal Dining Trends - US - January 2017
"To celebrate Valentine’s Day, Hostess Brands introduced limited-time-only red velvet varieties of its cupcakes and Chocodile Twinkies. Both products are reflective of a general trend of incorporating red velvet flavor into an assortment of foods including snacks, candy, and beverages." & "The indulgent and nostalgic nature of red velvet flavor may appeal to consumers, especially if products featuring the flavor are offered for only a limited time." - Hostess joins the red velvet craze - 27th February 2015
"Red velvet makes a comeback - Demand for comfort foods revived interest in red velvet cake" - Prepared Cakes and Pies - US - June 2011
May be useful, although may require attribution. Mintel is one of the two pretty credible market research firms for reference. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 08:36, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

In Cookie Run: Kingdom, there is a cookie named Red Velvet Cookie. Maybe someone need to add this information. Brawler Hunter (Caçador de Brawlers) (talk) 19:23, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Probably not, just as under Hamburger we don't list every popular culture reference to hamburgers. It doesn't really tell us anything about red velvet cake. Largoplazo (talk) 19:27, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
Ok. I just said it because i'm a fan of CRK. But that's ok. Brawler Hunter (Caçador de Brawlers) (talk) 19:29, 22 February 2025 (UTC)