# Talk:Under the Pyramids

This review is transcluded from Talk:Under the Pyramids/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 14:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.
Disambiguations: none found
Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


### Checking against GA criteria
GA review (see here for criteria)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 
I made a number of minor copy-edits. Prose good, structure fine, lead summarises the article adequately.

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
Article is well referenced, sources are RS, no evidence of OR.  I assume good faith for off line sources.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
Covers the subject in sufficient detail, without unnecessary trivia
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
Two images used with suitable rationales and captions
Overall:
Pass/Fail: 
I can't find fault with this, so am happy to list it. Congratulations! Jezhotwells (talk) 14:45, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Wow, great! Thanks so much for the review! Canadian Paul 01:46, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I moved the article to "Imprisoned with the Pharaohs", as that was the title it was published under and is most well known. "Under the Pyramids" was only known from an ad in lost and found looking for an earlier draft, which may have been substantially different from what was published and is mere trivia, not the actual title. Wikipedia naming conventions demands we pick the most well known version, and certainly the one that it was not actually called is not the real name.  DreamGuy (talk) 19:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Seems like much ado about nothing, since a quick search makes the claim that "Imprisoned with the Pharaohs" is the title under which "is most well known" a disputed one. Furthermore, the anthology that I happen to have (H. P. Lovecraft: Complete and Unabridged), as well as noted scholar S. T. Joshi, all refer to it as "Under the Pyramids", so I don't think that it's as clear cut as you have made it out to be. I'm not really going to challenge the move, since it really doesn't matter what title the article is under as long as the article quality is being improved, but I think that it is a contentious change nonetheless. Canadian Paul 14:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I have known this story for more than 30 years and have never seen it referred to as "Under the Pyramids" until I stumbled across this Wikipedia article.  The story appears in six different Lovecraft book collections that I own, and also an eBook collection, always as "Imprisoned With the Pharaohs".
It seems rather ridiculous to head the article with the title of an early draft of the story, rather than the actual title under which the story was, and continues to be published.  It's rather like heading the article on Bram Stoker's "Dracula" as "The Un-dead", or Orwell's "1984" as "the Last Man In Europe".
The story's first publication in Weird Tales had the title "Imprisoned With the Pharoahs":
https://horrorbabble.bandcamp.com/album/imprisoned-with-the-pharaohs
See also:
https://isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?41892
https://www.amazon.com/DOOM-THAT-CAME-SARNATH-Nyarlathotep/dp/034525189X/
https://www.noon.com/imprisoned-with-the-pharaohs-fantasy-and-horror-classics-paperback-english-by-h-p-lovecraft/N45469092A/p/
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/imprisoned-pharaohs/author/lovecraft/
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/17040283-imprisoned-with-the-pharaohs
https://play.google.com/store/audiobooks/details?id=AQAAAECw9l62_M&gl=US&hl=en-US&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKT-FDR-na-us-1000189-Med-pla-bk-Evergreen-Jul1520-PLA-Audiobooks_Fiction
https://www.audible.com/pd/Imprisoned-with-the-Pharaohs-Audiobook/B07BNMHQLJ?source_code=GPAGBSH0508140001&ipRedirectOverride=true
et al.
The IFSDB database lists the story by it's first published name:
https://isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165
Hell, Wikipedia's own bibliography of Lovecraft's works lists the story as "Imprisoned With the Pharoahs".
74.95.43.253 (talk) 23:36, 8 September 2022 (UTC)