# Talk:Rockefeller Street

A Nightcore edit of this song has become popular through the game "Osu!", a clip of someone playing that "beatmap" and that clip beeing featured in on the "PewDiePie" YouTube-Channel but I don't know if and how it would be appropiate to add this. Sorry for just pushing this away. --LonleyGhost (talk) 18:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@IceWelder has removed the section "Internet phenomenon" completely stating:

Poorly sourced and written sensationally; this is not KnowYourMeme

 
I have several objection to the removal. First, I did cite sources to every claim. If it said

The first known occurrence of the nightcore version was an osu! map that was published on the 24th of July, 2011.

 would be cited. If you see a lack of citation, please add the needed citations. If you see poor citation, please improve on the citation.
Second, if you think it is written sensationally, you can improve on it rather than cutting out an entire section. Third, this is not KnowYourMeme I agree, I did not touch it when writing the section. However Wikipedia does contain and discuss internet culture, which the Nightcore Rockefeller Street remix is part of and thus the information that was cut out is relevant to the article. And lastly, as far as I'm concerned, Wikipedia is a collaborative project, if there is a part that is badly formatted, badly written or badly cited, but still contains relevant information (which in this case, it did), it should be improved on collaboratively.
Also, the section contained some moved information from the original introduction, which has not been moved back, but rather, cut out with the rest.
Radonafoot (talk) Radonafoot (talk) 16:26, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

The sensationalism would have been salvageable, sure, but the referencing was not. The source you link here is a random osu! map; nowhere does it say that it was the "first known occurrence of the nightcore version", nor would it be a reliable source for such a claim. Claims need to be verifiable and cannot be based on original research. I did search for sources but found none that could be considered reliable - indicating that the version may not be notable - which left WP:TNT as the better option. When reliable sources are found, the content can always be restored and fixed, but any added material must be verifiable and properly referenced. The reason I stated that "this is not KnowYourMeme" is that the song's entry there (as well as most other entries) follow the same pattern: "The first occurrence of X was Y", using only Y as the source, even though Y does not (and cannot) claim to be the first instance of X. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 17:18, 12 February 2022 (UTC)