# Talk:Terrorism Confinement Center

@פֿינצטערניש: Why did you alter the text to omit the detail that there are convicted individuals incarcerated in CECOT?

García has described those imprisoned at CECOT as "the worst of the worst". Many inmates have been sentenced to centuries-long sentences, while other inmates have yet to be convicted.
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García has described those imprisoned at CECOT as "the worst of the worst", though many inmates have not been convicted of any crime.
The information is included in the CBS News source attached to the text. Furthermore, there is not "no evidence they are actually members of gangs"; there are reliable sources that confirm there are convicted gang members in CECOT. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 04:13, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

@פֿינצטערניש: It is not "defamation" to refer to people as gang members when they have 1.) been convicted and 2.) RS's refer to them as such and 3.) they refer to themselves as such. Please read the talk page. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 21:59, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
That full stop is actually a comma, followed by "and the rest are reported to have been tried en masse with no opportunity to present counter evidence or see the evidence against them", although this only implies conviction so it may be best to say "convicted in mass trials" instead. This does also imply that there have not been individual trials though, but I have seen mention from authorities that there will be individual trials at some point for some prisoners, has that happened yet? I have only seen the coverage of the mass trials so far. MasterTriangle12 (talk) 20:45, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

I read the source and can't find in it anything close to that part: "citing that the government does not intend to release the prison's inmates.[21]". 
Someone else can confirm? Gandalfcobaye (talk) 23:29, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. Rephrased to "citing that the government has not confirmed that inmates have been released from CECOT.[21]" PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 23:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
It is stated elsewhere in the article with a supporting source, and there are many other sources that confirm that the administrators had that intention. Reporting on intentions like that might need to be dated, especially if authorities state something different later, or it could need to be referred to in past-tense if anyone is released. MasterTriangle12 (talk) 19:53, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
Mr. Bukele Ortez has said very euphorically that prisoners there would never "see the light of the sun again" or "be able to hurt the Salvadoran people again". But hey, he seems to change his opinions very often so who knows! TanookiKoopa (talk) 06:30, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Shouldn't we add this information to this article, if only briefly?

Bukele has admitted that some innocent people have been detained by mistake but says several thousand of them have already been released.
Source: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/17/americas/el-salvador-prison-trump-deportations-gangs-intl-latam/index.html
98.123.38.212 (talk) 01:37, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

This sentence is about the gang crackdown, not about CECOT. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 02:04, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Terrorism Confinement Center/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: PizzaKing13 (talk · contribs) 19:29, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Z. Patterson (talk · contribs) 01:22, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
I will be reviewing the article. Z. Patterson (talk) 01:22, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

@PizzaKing13: I have some points to address.
For the sentence, "In March 2025, the Salvadoran government accepted over 200 deportees that the second Donald Trump administration alleged were Venezuelan and Salvadoran gang members and incarcerated them in CECOT; among them was Kilmar Abrego Garcia, whose case received widespread media attention in the United States", I would suggest splitting the sentence at the semicolon.
Done.
Sentences should not start with acronyms.  I would suggest changing instances of "CECOT" that are the first words of sentences to "The prison" or "The Terrorism Confinement Center".
Where is this stated? It would be very tedious and repetitive to change probably half of all mentions of "CECOT".
In the paragraph that starts with "Gangs enforced their influence", I see a statistic for 103 homicides per 100,000 people, but I checked the source and see no mention of it being the world's highest rate.  I would suggest removing the part of the sentence that says, "the highest rate in the world at that time."

For the sentence, "Belarmino García is the prison's director", I would suggest adding the date this information is as of, as this can change.
The CNN source by Stefano Pozzebon is not in Spanish.
Fixed
In the paragraph that starts with "Bukele published a three-minute video to X (Twitter)", I would suggest changing "X (Twitter)" to "X (formerly Twitter)".
Changed
The sentence that has "According to El Salvador's Ministry of Foreign Affairs" should have its red link changed to an interlanguage link, as demonstrated here. Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Fixed
There is no consensus about the reliability of Democracy Now! per WP:DEMOCRACYNOW.  I would suggest dedicating a sentence and starting with "According to a writer at Democracy Now!," replacing the source, or removing it.
TIL. It has another source already so I just removed DN.
The quote "a pile of bodies and a stream of blood" appears nowhere in the LADBible source.
The sources must have been moved, it originally came from Latin Times. Fixed.
The source for Alerta Mundial appears to have a dead link.  I would suggest archiving the link, finding another source with a live link, or removing that source (as another source appears to cover these topics).
Fixed
Do you have a reason for keeping the red link for Gerald Campos Valverde?  This person does not have an article on the English Wikipedia or the Spanish Wikipedia.
I don't see it being unrealistic that he will have a page made for him eventually. I've made plenty of minister/government official pages with no Spanish equivalents, I don't see why that couldn't happen here.
With these changes, and answering my last question, I plan to make this article a good article.  It appears to be well-written, well-illustrated, broad in coverage, verifiable, stable, and neutral. Z. Patterson (talk) 10:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
@Z. Patterson: Thanks for the comments. Should be addressed now. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 11:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
@PizzaKing13: I am passing this as a good article.  Regarding my statement about acronyms, I was thinking that some English style guides, such as the guides for APA style, say not to start a sentence with an acronym, but I do not see a similar sentence in Wikipedia:Manual of Style.  There is some polishing to do to get this to FA quality.  Good work. Z. Patterson (talk) 21:32, 28 May 2025 (UTC) Z. Patterson (talk) 21:32, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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This seems to be the most detailed investigation so far, is the fact that "the conclusion is the same" (PizzaKing13) a good reason to not include it? MasterTriangle12 (talk) 19:30, 17 November 2025 (UTC)