# Talk:Poinsettia

Cuetlaxochitl is the just the Nahuatl name, other Indigenous peoples called it other things.  The Maya called it k'alul wits, for instance.  TuckerResearch (talk) 15:24, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

There seems to be some misinformation on this article. (Here's the video that brought this to my attention, for those curious.)

While the plant was certainly named after Joel Poinsett, it's uncertain whether he was the one who introduced it to the US, and there's no evidence that it was first sent to South Carolina.
There are very few Mexican resources on the supposed 16th century legend of Pepita, where the plant's association with Christmas is said to have originated. (The Spanish version of this article, for example, doesn't seem to mention it.) The story's earliest recorded variant is from 1964 (The Book of Festival Holidays), and the child was first named Pepita in 1997 (Poinsettias: Myth & Legend). This article states that poinsettias were first associated with Christmas by Franciscan priests in the 17th century.
I'm not much of a qualified Wikipedia editor, so I'll leave these changes to someone else.
2001:569:777B:1200:5945:C41:69A1:5CED (talk) 05:59, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP, the sentences related to Joel Poinsett introducing the plant to the US are supported by a citation to this publication by the International Society for Horticultural Science. This is considered a reliable source, so it meets the standards of Wikipedia. To change or remove this information, other reliable sources would need to dispute it, and that YouTube video is not a reliable source. Anyone can make a video and publish it on YouTube, unlike getting a paper published by the International Society for Horticultural Science.
I removed the part about Pepita, as the sources I clicked through did not actually support the content as claimed. Enwebb (talk) 19:40, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
I came here to talk about that very same thing; as said in the video, it appears that much of what is listed on the page regarding the flower's history in culture is almost entirely fabricated by Ecke or outside parties that also stood to benefit from spreading misinformation, regurgitated on a wide variety of sources like baby birds feeding baby birds. Due to the extensiveness with which the video's creator went into researching this topic, the restructuring of this page warrants further discussion and/or deep-diving beyond a surface level source claiming it all to be true, similarly to the "eye of newt is mustard seed" discourse. Boo-Buddy-Blocked (talk) 19:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

its no secret that the plant we know of as poinsettia has a rough history but what would be the discussions we should have regarding the renaming of this plant back to its original name "cuetlaxochitl"? ill link some articles below with some points of discussions regarding this issue. i am personally in favor of renaming this plant back to its nahuatl term but ill leave this up for a productive discussion.
https://www.vox.com/videos/23520699/poinsettia-chrismas-name-origin-cuetlaxochitl
https://thegrio.com/2023/12/22/poinsettias-named-after-a-slaveholder-is-undergoing-a-rebranding-including-the-name-cuetaxochitl/
https://depts.washington.edu/hortlib/pal/what-to-call-poinsettia/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/poinsettia-popular-holiday-plant-named-041736287.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFvJ4PeCa6Z_6UnntwdrMBqrG0TWWi4gTUac0tY8PWjrbtTdERb720qibhbrvVwYrI49WZLBw6ToFo83714HjkLGEUwR0EFhZJHchaeCq4Pp5M4vqTk1jhn1kz1z_szyP5m9yLA3zmW_dAjfJR0NH0YK662jgK1slrvCxiGb9LDK Mochatbh (talk) 01:54, 25 December 2024 (UTC)