# Talk:Taketoyo Line

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Nominator: AlphaBetaGamma (talk · contribs) 02:09, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: DoctorWhoFan91 (talk · contribs) 08:02, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
I'll take this one. Expect initial remarks in 24-48 hours. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 08:02, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Gave the article a glance, along with GA1, and the article seems to have a lot of issues. I'll list some of them right now, and try to help you fix them, as I do not want to quickfail it.


### Lead
There should be no refs in lead section  Done


### Basic Data
Remove section, data is in infobox  Done
Infobox
What do the numbers in the route map mean? Explain somewhere, probably 'Operations and Services'  Done


### Images
Add caption to give context  Done


### References
I'll check the validity of the references later, but are there no english sources for any of this?


### Abolished and Closed Sections
Add sentences, do not just list the sections  Done merged into history


### Images and References
I think it might be better to have the image of the route in infobox, and train image in infrasructure- What do you think? - Feels like that makes it go against what's inside the infobox in more railway line articles, like Frankston line.
No need to change then
The PDF's don't translate-can you summarise what is in them? -  Done
FN1 - The left side has a part of the history of Taketoyo Line
FN19 - Study assessing about Taketoyo Line's extension into the airport
Give the publisher name in English too? -  Done
User name instead of website wherever possible- (for eg, railway.jr-central.co.jp. should be Central Japan Railway Company instead and so on) -  Done
Have some consistency, as above- some have translations of article titles too, some don't (it will easier with a translated title, but if that seems too much work, just remove currently present article titles for consistency)  Done
I'll do the actual checking of references later, after the above is done


### Infrastructure
All good, but can this be extended? Like maybe maintenance of the track and stations, any other pieces of construction that relate to the line etc? - I've spent some time in library digging through like 5 or more books when expanding for 2nd review but no. There is a serious lack of coverage for railway infrastructure in Japan unless it's something like major Shinkansen lines and maglev stuff. (Linimo, etc...)


### Network and Operations
via Tōkaidō Main Line are available: via Tōkaidō Main Line, stopping only at 2 of the 7 additional stations, are available  Done
Can the operators subheading be expanded? - No additional coverage in sources, even in the "Taketoyo Line stories" book I used to beef up history section.
Can stations subheading be expanded - Per above


### History
construction of the line.: which line-add -  Done
relocated 950 meters closer to Ōbu: what year? - Clarified  Done
Due to the line ... the modernization of Taketoyo line.[12][13]: Rephrase, the grammar is atrocious (I tried to fix myself, but couldn't think of a good way); also what year is "at the time"? - Attempted to patch.  Done
Did it get expanded to the airport? - I did say no as of 2024 previously, but someone demanded a citation for that so I got pissed off and removed the entire thing. The entire plan is basically indefinitely halted, but no publishers really bother mentioning that.
I attempted to fix it


### References
Using browser's translator to check reliability of sources

Not necessary, but just recommending- you can use sfn instead of entire refs for Taketoyo Line stories - My brain cannot handle learning sfn
Good thing it's not necessary, first thing I'm changing when the review is done. /hj
www.daido-it.ac.jp. - why is this reliable? - This is a double cite, but if you look in the bottom it cites a different paper, which I strongly confirm as RS.
Just cite that, instead of this? - Good idea...  Done
Hanto- this reliable? - Which?
Umm, ref-7? ..Then it is a dupe of the above thing...  Done
Sorry, meant this one(current ref 11): Hanto｜半島の魅力を再発見するキュレーションサイト｜ハント
Ref-14(nikkei) is dead - Fuck.  Done
railf.jp- this reliable? - Last reviewer also mentioned this (it shows up orange, despite there being no discussions archived in rs noticeboards), but I'm also personally confident about the website's fact checking stuff.
Yeah, my query was bcs of the previous reviewer too, look reliable enough to me  Done


### Spot-check
Checking every 5th in general (all google translated except ref-28)

Ref-4: return train from Atsuta ... no disruption ... passenger cars are coupled
Ref-9:  typhoon, ... Takahashi ... wave a signal flare at the train to warn of danger. ... killed in the line of duty.
Ref-14: do not have station staff on duty ... equipped with new automatic ticket vending machines, intercoms, and ticket checking stations
Ref-19:  From Higashiura Station, ... Kinuura Rinkai Railway Line... Hekinan Line, leaves Obu Station ... JR Kansai Main Line and JR Tokaido Main Line to Higashi-Fujiwara Station on the Sangi Railway.
Ref-23: the 315 series ... Nagoya-Taketoyo section rapid service ... a 4-car train. In addition to the morning and evening rush hour rapid service ...
Ref-28: Japan's oldest overpass ... history of over 110 years ... an end on June 5


### Overall
Needs copyediting in general(I'll help a bit)
There is more, I'll list everything in the next few days. I honestly do not know if the article will pass (as this does not like just a week or two long task), but I hope to at least help for the next time in case I quick fail, AlphaBetaGamma. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 18:55, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Lead - I can't figure where the "oldest railway line" claim and others stuff is appropriate to put in.
Oldest railway line in "19th Century", overpass bridge somewhere in "Infrastructure" perhaps.
Basic data - Section removed, can't figure out how to put disclaimers in route map so I broke it.
Fixed it for you
Images - Doing that soon
Abolished and Closed sections - removed. It was using a weird source and history covers this in prose with a better source so eh.
References - If you look up the line on the internet in English you'd find near-zero sources. (Why would foreign websites even care about this line?) ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  00:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
True, but even the slightest will be good enough (have you used this -[1]), also maybe there are books on it (try searching on Google Scholar). Like Japanese sources are fine too, but English ones are easier to work with and check, so any additional/replacement sources will be good
Replied to you, AlphaBetaGamma. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 05:07, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Only 1 source was somewhat relevant to subject on Google Scholar... ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  05:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Add the ridership numbers and related data too, along with any other developments to the stations, especially this century, if there are any, AlphaBetaGamma. Honestly, the article looks in better condition than I thought, might actually pass, so Good Luck! DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 18:16, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Uhh, there really aren't any developments to the stations that I have not mentioned in the article yet. ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  22:27, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Completed the review, putting on hold, AlphaBetaGamma, check the additional remarks I have made, ping me when you are done/ something is confusing. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Alright thank you. I'm going to take up to a week if I have to check the "Taketoyo Line stories" book again. May take far longer if someone borrowed that book. ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  09:30, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
How certain are you that there is nothing to be added, if you are reasonably sure, I'll fine with what the state of the article will be after the in progress changes are done. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 10:47, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
It's 8pm for me right now, so the next time I'm working on this GAN is tomorrow. ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  11:14, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
AlphaBetaGamma, replied. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 10:47, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Will check later, bit busy, but not all references have an english title besides them. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:18, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
D: ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  23:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm fixing them bcs its minor enough, so can you check if they are correct, as who knows how accurate Google translate is,AlphaBetaGamma? DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Is ref-17([Is it possible for the JR line to extend into Centrair?) reliable? publisher seems its a student group? And find the publishers for ref 3 and 6 if possible? DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:42, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
 Done ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  22:24, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
ref 3 and 6's reference details were ripped off from google scholar and jawiki. I don't think there's much to add... ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  02:41, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
I... failed to find a viable replacement for FN17... ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  02:43, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Found sources for 3 and 6 which I have added; ref-17 I will take as reliable enough, as it was presented by Nagoya University, which from its wiki page and the citations therein seems reliable enough. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 05:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm passing this article. Honestly, and this is meant as constructive criticism, it was hard to review, mostly in the references, and it just limped through. If most of the sources are Japanese, pls give more identifying information. Congratulations on the GA, AlphaBetaGamma}, hope your next GAs would be even better, keep up the good work!DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 05:50, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for taking time to review one of the transport articles! ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  05:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
@DoctorWhoFan91 I have a single question - did you use GANHelper to close this nomination? Or is there something I missed... ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  05:56, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Umm, no. I did it manually, without the script. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)


### Taketoyo Line
Previous peer review

While I'm sure this article isn't close enough for FA for me to put this in FAC peer review (I'm still unsure of sending this to FAC), I think that I've made an effort to address the issues raised in the previous PR. I want to see if there are still major problems that would warrant a quick FAC fail
Please ping me when you make a comment, so that I can reply as soon as possible. 
Thanks, AlphaBetaGamma  (Talk/report any mistakes here)  04:03, 23 September 2025 (UTC)


### Icepinner
@AlphaBetaGamma: some comments from me below. Icepinner  05:35, 5 October 2025 (UTC)


#### General
I would heavily recommend looking at North East Line as an example
Is "Ōbu" the same as "Obu"? If so, consistent diacritical marks are needed
Some linking could be helpful, like "Higashiura station", "The Japanese government" (this was a different Japanese government than the present one), etc. With that said, is it possible to integrate ILL in this article?
"On September 25, 1953, a typhoon hit the line and washed out the section between Taketoyo and Higashi-Narawa stations, killing a JNR worker" did this have any sort of important impact, like closing the line for an extended period of time, or leading to safety reforms? If not, this should be deleted
"replacing 211 series trains that were in use since the electrification" info on the 211 series train should be added, like when it was introduced on the line, its specifications, etc.
I think it's worth adding an external link section with the station's wbesite


#### Sources
This is my main area, I suppose. Icepinner  05:35, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

You have inconsistent citations. To be quite honest, this could lead to a speedy oppose if this article was nominated. The issues include, but are not limited to:
ISBNs
Archived links
Translated titles
Pages (not to mention Kokoris 1948 is cited as a reference instead of a sfn/harvcite)
Non-proper publications like "Taketoyo Town Official Website" and "Town of Higashiura" should not be italicised.