# Talk:Émile Durkheim

I plan, one of these days, to go a bit more in depth with this entry... in my judgment, it's rather superficial and doesn't mention several of his important claims, such as the claim that society acts as a type of God for all involved.
This isn't to say that it's been terrible thus far... rather that it needs to be more in-depth.
--Abryct.

I agree, there is a lot of information regarding his important claims that are missing. For example, the article mentions that he worked on deviance, but gives no information whatsoever on his actual theories. I am planning on adding this information if possible. Gsv82 (talk) 15:57, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
As I stated previously, I plan on adding information about deviance to the page. I've compiled a list of possible scholarly sources. 
Possible Sources: Our sociology textbook (pg. 138) Jones, T. Anthony. “Durkheim, Deviance and Development: Opportunities Lost and Regained.” Social Forces, vol. 59, no. 4, 1981, pp. 1009–1024. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/2577978.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2577978?seq=4#page_scan_tab_contents
http://open.lib.umn.edu/sociology/chapter/7-2-explaining-deviance/
Gsv82 (talk) 04:08, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

The lede states: "with W. E. B. Du Bois, Karl Marx and Max Weber—is commonly cited as the principal architect of modern social science".  Perhaps instead "one of the principal architects".  But in any case the statement is thinly referenced.  As to the pantheon, discussions in Archive 1 were inconclusive.  The problem seems to be the criterion or criteria. Do we want to mean pioneers or lasting inspirations, or both?  If both, the inclusion of Durkheim, Marx and Weber doesn't seem contentious.  If only pioneers, Comte and Spencer should be added, but otherwise not.  If only lasting inspirations, maybe add Parsons and more.  Then there is a question of generality:  du Bois has been a neglected pioneer, but what influence has he had outside the USA?  I'm not holding any candles or hammers here, but I think these questions need to be addressed in making the selection. And whatever selection is made needs to be better supported with references. Wikiain (talk) 23:39, 8 December 2018 (UTC)