# Talk:Schutzstaffel

This page got 8 million hits yesterday. That is unprecedented traffic, and there is no related news story that I could find. What's happening here? Postman McDude (talk) 17:00, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

What the hell? That is insane. I haven't found anything in the news either. Carlstak (talk) 18:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
Maybe these hits are from bots? Lorfragra (talk) 19:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
@Postman McDude Feels like some botting's at play here. PL.My (talk) 21:19, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
It's been coming up on different forums around conversation conversations about ICE's role in America politics. Johnsosd (talk) 23:31, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
There were a articles in the Signpost about recent heavy bot/AI pageviews of Wikipedia: see Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-04-09/Opinion, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-04-09/Op-ed. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:30, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Aha. Thanks Diannaa for the links. Smallbones' op-ed is a must-read. I have definitely noticed that Wikipedia pages have been loading more slowly, especially within the last month or so. Now I know why. Musk deploying AI to create the internal wiring for a police state and ICE working with Palantir and its Artificial Intelligence Platform is a nightmare. Carlstak (talk) 16:20, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Whoever it is, it's super creepy that they would choose to use this particular article. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:41, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Yes, absolutely so, and in character for the fascists, per the article: "...the SS was the foremost agency of security, mass surveillance, and state terrorism within Germany and German-occupied Europe." If the courts don't stop them, we should not be surprised to see non-immigrant US citizens who voice dissent or who are on Trump's enemies list to be declared "terrorists" and sent to concentration camps without due process. Carlstak (talk) 20:22, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Change "5.5 to 6 million Jews" to "6 million Jews".
Rationale: I don't have access to the book the sentence is citing (Evans 2008), but the current consensus among historians seems to be around 6 million (see The_Holocaust#Death_toll). Even if the book cited uses a "5.5 to 6 million" figure, the point of the cite is attribution of responsibility to the SS, not the death count, so I think it'd be reasonable to go with 6 million here. Yihkrys (talk) 22:57, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Evans also says on the same page that since the opening of the Soviet archives "it has become clear that the probable total is around 6 million", so I have gone ahead and changed it. Thanks for the suggestion. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:07, 2 September 2025 (UTC)