# Talk:Tales (video game series)

I have restored the previous organization of the article, which was changed without consensus. This organization has been used for most of the article's existence, including its move into WP:GA status, and is strongly supported by third party reliable sources, both collectively and for individual games. See sources below. All sources listed as usable at WP:VG/S. Sergecross73 msg me 15:58, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

does this not appeal to outdated third party sources? the article even talks about a restructure of the series’ organization that would present a falsehood under the old classifications (which you reverted them to). this also leads to contradicted statements in this article and other articles associated with it (especially with titles deemed as spinoffs). OrganizationVII (talk) 17:01, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
See the source outline below. Many of the third party sources are very recently written/published - 2024, 2025, etc. The company's proposed reclassification happened back around 2020 or something. But neither third parties, nor Wikipedia, are beholden to such reclassifications. The third party sources aren't outdated, they're just not using the first party attempt to rewrite history. And per WP:PSTS, Wikipedia prefers to follow the third party accounts. Sergecross73 msg me 17:18, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
General
https://rpgamer.com/2022/05/the-tales-series-where-to-start/
https://www.thegamer.com/tales-of-games-chronological-order/
https://www.siliconera.com/all-mothership-titles-in-the-tales-series-in-release-order/
https://www.rpgfan.com/2021/03/28/tales-of-series-worldwide-bestsellers-announced/ (17 mainline entries, written 2021)
https://gamerant.com/best-tales-of-games-jrpgs-metacritic/ (mentions there being only 17 mainline entries, written late 2024)
https://www.nintendolife.com/features/talking-point-which-tales-game-will-come-to-switch-next (17 mainline entries, written 2025)
Individual entries
17th main entry - Tales of Arise - https://www.ign.com/articles/tales-of-arise-september-release-date-next-gen-ps5-xbox-series-x
16th main entry - Tales of Berseria - https://www.polygon.com/2016/4/13/11421186/tales-of-berseria-release-date-japan-ps4/
15th main entry - Tales of Zestiria - https://www.pcgamer.com/tales-of-zestiria-review/
14th main entry - Tales of Xillia 2 - https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/15/tales-of-xillia-2-review
13th main entry - Tales of Xillia - https://hardcoregamer.com/reviews/review-tales-of-xillia/52828/
12th main entry - Tales of Graces - https://www.ign.com/articles/2012/03/20/tales-of-graces-f-review-un-scored
11th main entry - Tales of Hearts - https://www.pocketgamer.com/tales-of-hearts-r/tales-of-hearts-r-announced-for-western-ps-vita-release-this-winter/
10th main entry - Tales of Vesperia - https://www.imore.com/tales-vesperia-definitive-edition-everything-you-need-know
9th main entry - Tales of Innocence - https://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/05/02/the-tales-games-we-missed.aspx
8th main entry - Tales of the Abyss - https://www.eurogamer.net/tales-of-the-abyss-review
7th main entry - 'Tales of Legendia
6th main entry - Tales of Rebirth - https://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/05/02/the-tales-games-we-missed.aspx
5th main entry - Tales of Symphonia - https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/04/tales_of_symphonia_is_the_most_successful_series_entry_in_the_west_says_producer, https://www.rpgfan.com/game/tales-of-symphonia/
4th main entry - Tales of Destiny 2
3rd main entry - Tales of Eternia - https://www.ign.com/articles/2001/07/13/tales-of-destiny-2-3
2nd main entry - Tales of Destiny - https://www.rpgfan.com/feature/the-best-rpgs-of-1998-part-2/
1st main entry - Tales of Phantasia - https://www.rpgfan.com/game/tales-of-phantasia/
Not main series - Tales of the Tempest - https://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/05/02/the-tales-games-we-missed.aspx
Sergecross73 msg me 15:36, 14 August 2025 (UTC)