# Talk:Usama ibn Munqidh

This article was pretty terrible; but that's because I began it as a translation from the incomplete German article a few years ago. I've rewritten it entirely, and I will continue to work on it, with the ultimate goal of making it a featured article, if possible. Adam Bishop (talk) 21:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

(This is also on the talk page of his book) His article and his book both have different uses of his name and should be the same as other articles have the same accent use on their names. I've changed Usāmah to Usama in his book, if you contest this then it would be then preferable to rename the title of his biographical article to Usāmah. -glove- (talk) 17:42, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Usāmah is the transliteration Hitti used, but these days it's always "Usama". Adam Bishop (talk) 12:05, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Hmm, well maybe not "always" now that I look at the bibliography in the article, but...usually. Paul Cobb's translation of the Kitab al-I'tibar, and Cobb's Usama ibn Munqidh: Warrior-Poet in the Age of Crusades, listed in the bibliography, use "Usama". Niall Christie's Muslims and Crusaders: Christianity’s Wars in the Middle East, 1095-1382, from the Islamic Sources (2014), and Infidel Kings and Unholy Warriors (2014) and Muslims of Medieval Latin Christendom (2014), both by Brian Catlos, all use "Usama". It may depend on the particular style of the publisher though - some style guides might require a certain transliteration and other guides might use something else. Neither "Usama" or "Usamah" or anything else is really better than any other transliteration, they're just...different. Conveying different information about the Arabic spelling. In any case, I would suggest sticking with "Usama" here. Adam Bishop (talk) 03:04, 25 October 2017 (UTC)