# Talk:This Is What the Truth Feels Like

I don't see why my edit keeps being reverted. The chronology link to Gwen Stefani should be added; in fact, I'll give you links to other articles that have it. Literally, every album article on Wikipedia has this link. I'd go as far as saying I haven't seen an article here without the link.

No Doubt (No Doubt album)
The Beacon Street Collection
Tragic Kingdom
Return of Saturn
Rock Steady (album)
The Singles 1992–2003
Boom Box (No Doubt album)
Everything in Time
Push and Shove
Love. Angel. Music. Baby.
The Sweet Escape
MDNA (album)
Need I say more? -Carbrera (talk) 16:21, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Just because others do it does not necessarily mean it is right; that's like saying if one person murders someone, then it's okay for others to do the same.  Per the over-linking policy, an article should only be linked once within an article, charts and tables, or ibox.  It should only be double-linked if it proves important for helpful to visitors.  Linking twice within the ibox, both at the top and in the chronology parameter, is not necessary.  I could understand it if it were a double-artist album between two collaborating artists or if Gwen released the album under a different name, but this is a one-artist album.  The same is done with {{Infobox single}} in the writer / producer parameter.  And you have not stated fact: not every single album article has the link to it; I have seen plenty of them not linking them, as again, it violates the over-linking policy that Wikipedia has for its Manuel of Style. livelikemusic talk! 16:55, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Is this really necessary here? I mean, the article for MDNA doesn't feature it; Rock Steady doesn't have one either. Thoughts? Carbrera (talk) 00:15, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Honestly, it's very necessary, mainly because the other cover was the first to be revealed and has different elements that are already detailed on the "Release and Promotion" section, where it details its cover. By not having the cover that is already described on the article, people who visit it, will be looking for the cover with a "close-up shot of Stefani with 'hand drawn hearts, tears and flowers', as claimed on the article, and won't find it here, so they will have to google this cover. Other point: The artworkc is the official cover in a lot of places, including many important European countries and also in Brazil (it's the only one actually), and yet it is the Target edition, which is very crucial to the album's marketing campaign. Therefore, I think it's extremely important to add it. FanofPopMusic (talk) 20:33, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely not needed! The cover is too similar to the one for the standard edition and there is no need for it. It doesn't matter which cover was first released and if the users want to see 'the cover where she is crying' that much, they can just find it on Google Images, iTunes or whatever. Otherwise, including too much similar or artworks without a purpose is a violation of the Wikipedia non-free image policy. — Tom(T2ME) 23:31, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Per WP:SAMPLE, 64kbps should be fine for the sample. I know this is picky, but the article is at GAC. Josh Milburn (talk) 23:53, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

For the album as a whole, it is nothing more than a pop album. Stating its a "disco" and "hip hop" album is ridiculous when not even half of the songs would quality under those headings. Please discuss here before reverting @Chevyoncé:. Thanks, Carbrera (talk) 08:23, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

'@Carbrera: Firstly I never said it was a disco or hip hop album soley, secondly The source that I added calls is a R&B, hip hop and "punky" electro-pop set, how you can't even see it that I added the quote from the source is beyond me and thirdly I would advise for you to read the source before you get a bit too revert finger quick. It's a bit stupid Chevyoncé (talk) 08:36, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
@Chevyoncé: That still doesn't make the entire album under those genres. Plus, the wording in your source appears to describe only some of the songs on the album. The record in its entirety is without a doubt pop, not "R&B, hip hop and "punky" electro-pop". Carbrera (talk) 08:41, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
@Carbrera: You're wrong, the genres are sourced, Pitchfork's review doesn't even call it pop only says that it features pop sounds; if a review like mine says it's R&B, hip hop and "punky" electro-pop it should be used and according to whom is the album mainly pop? Chevyoncé (talk) 08:46, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
@Chevyoncé: Your source in question is quite poor. You're absolutely missing the point. Take this analogy: a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square. Stating a pop album also has a R&B, hip hop, and electropop elements is one thing, but claiming it is a pop, R&B, hip hop, and electropop album is another. Carbrera (talk) 08:52, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
@Carbrera: Actually a rectangle is a square, both have four sizes; whoever told you that shouldn't be a teacher; and my source calls it a set; IE an album it's not like the source says "There are moments of R&B, bit of hip hop sounds there and a mixture of punky influenced electro-pop sounds; overall This Is What The Truth Feels Like is a mixed bag of genres." When it explicitly states it as an R&B, hip hop and punky electro-pop set; you know it's calling the album that; why aren't you grasping that and why are you engaging in an edit war and then accusing me of doing it when you started it yourself? Chevyoncé (talk) 09:00, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
@Chevyoncé: In reply to your first querie: A rectangle is not a square, as a square must have four distinctly lengthened sides, whereas a rectangle has two pairs of distinctly lengthened sides. However, that's not the point. The point is the source you added in question doesn't seem to be trustworthy, and regardless of its reliability, you are ignoring my attempts to discuss the quote in particular. In fact, which glancing at your previous edits on several other music-related articles, you seem to share similar traits with that of a genre warrior. The quote: "this R&B, hip hop and punky electro-pop set" is fine and all, but that's it: it's fine and all. A set is "a collection of well defined and distinct objects", meaning that with this quote, This Is What the Truth Feels Like contains a set of "R&B, hip hop and punky electro-pop" tracks. This has already been established and well-referenced in the "Themes" subsection. However, just because the album contains the aforementioned styles, does not mean it is purely that. Since its release, and likely the start of Stefani's solo career, she has established that its from the pop genre. Although I have nothing to read off of or follow, using one source to cite three entirely different genres doesn't seem like the best option for a page of this size, and especially for an article that was recently promoted to GA status. I could be wrong, and I never ever said either of us was. What I'm here for is solid, reputable discussion that will result in the page turning in the direction most suitable. If you're willing to find other sources backing up your argument, then I am willing to leave the page as is. Regardless, listing "pop" and "electropop" in the genre parameter is redundant, as an "electropop" album is for sure a "pop" album additionally. Please, let's talk about this. Carbrera (talk) 16:21, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Chevyoncé has been indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet of MariaJaydHicky, a continuing genre warrior. The current IP restoring Maria's preferred version is also a sock. There is no sense in discussing the question. Revert, block, ignore. - SummerPhDv2.0 18:40, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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