# Talk:Stolta Stad!

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:09, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

I am going to review this, though may get confused at parts since I'm used to taking on traditional song articles. --K. Peake 08:09, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. I guess it's traditional in most senses, though with spoken sections it's a little unusual. Happy to help in any way I can. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Your welcome and if I have not understood anything properly below, don't feel afraid to make me aware... good luck! --K. Peake 11:45, 22 November 2021 (UTC)


### Lead
Img looks good!
Thanks!
Remove comma after the bracketed title
Done.
The best-known and best-loved part should be in a different sentence from the first one
Edited.
"It combines spoken" → "The composition combines spoken"
Edited.
"and song (in Swedish)." → "and a song (in Swedish)."
Edited.
Mention the narrator and lyrical content for appropriate detail in lead
Added.
"of its capital city," → "of the country's capital city,"
Done.
If any of the covers are notable, mention them here too
Added.


### Context
Retitle to Background
Done.
"overlaid on map" → "overlaid on the map" on the img text
Done.
Pipe Swedish song tradition to Scandinavian ballad tradition
Done.
[1] should be solely at the end of the sentence
Moved.
The cittern instrument is not sourced
It was, but added another.
Wikilink pastorales
Done.
"during the eighteenth century." → "during the 17th century." per MOS:NUM and because you mentioned years in the 1700s before
That would simply be misleading, the 17th century began in 1600. I've said "in Bellman's time.
Sorry that was a typo, I do know that each century is actually one ahead of the multiple of 100 so write during the 18th century. --K. Peake 21:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Well I've replaced it anyway.
Pipe Bacchus to Dionysus
Done.
"sport in Stockholm's" → "play in Stockholm's" to be more encyclopaedic
Done.
Most of the juxtaposition sentence does not appear to be sourced and humorous is not neutral language
It's reliably sourced, and one of the most salient facts about Bellman's work.
I will let this slide, to be honest. --K. Peake 21:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks.


### Epistle
#### Spoken sections
Wikilink motley
Done.
"old town, Gamla Stan," → "old town Gamla stan,"
Done.
Start a new sentence at "They are speaking"
Done.
Pipe dancing bear to Tame bear
Done.
"to defecate; people are" → "to defecate, people are"
Done.
Pipe trumps to Trump (card games)
Done.


#### Music and verse form
Add actual text on the audio sample because it needs this to comply with WP:NFCCP
Added.
Pipe rhythming pattern to Rhyme scheme
Done.
"a musician, and one" → "a musician and one"
Comma is correct.
Pipe key to Key (music)
Done.
Shouldn't "among the epistles call" use "are" before it?
The grammar is "only [these two] call for...".
Oh, alright. --K. Peake 21:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
""Regardez ces traits" from" → ""Regardez ces traits" on"
Said "in".
No problem --K. Peake 21:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Img looks good!
Thanks!


#### Lyrics
"ships, flags and" → "ships, flags, and"
Done.
"drinking and song," → "drinking and a song,"
No, song as a quantity, an element of the scene, not as a single item.
Thanks for the clarification --K. Peake 21:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Wikilink stanza
Done.
Why is no source provided for the para?
Done.
Hendrik Willem Van Loon → Hendrik Willem van Loon
Done.
Shouldn't Cadiz be written as Cádiz instead?
Done. Actually it's debatable as Bellman wrote Cadix in Swedish.
Pipe Spaniard to Merchant ship
Done.


### Reception
Retitle to Reception and legacy
Done, but "and" in a heading is a retrograde step really.
Remove wikilink on Stockholm for the img
Done.
"no. 65, "So I look out at the shore", which includes the lines" → "no. 65 "So I look out at the shore", which includes the lyrics:"
Done.
"dramatic technique, the ability" → "dramatic technique; the ability" if this ability is the technique
The ability is the technique, but the semicolon doesn't work as it must introduce a clause with an active verb.
Are you sure a colon isn't the appropriate way to do this? --K. Peake 21:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm perfectly happy to use a colon in such a context, but a hundred gnomish editors "know" otherwise. If you want to use your "minor edits" rights as reviewer to change it I won't object.
Wikilink the gospel
Well we could, but it's "the gospel of brandy-drinking" so perhaps the link would be a bit of an Easter Egg!
"but just one of" → "but merely one of"
Done.
"all Stockholm depicters."" → "all Stockholm depicters"." per MOS:QUOTE and this is one sentence, so merge with the above para which it has relevancy to
Done.
"Soundscape, it suggests, turns" → "According to the society, the soundscape turns"
It's better as it is.
Merge the Haga-Brunnsviken Nytt sentence with the above para per short length
Done.
The last performance shows notability per the costume, but actual info is needed for the others to meet WP:SONGCOVER
Fixed, adding description.
Merge the tour company para with the above one, as both are about legacy
Done.


### Notes
Good
Noted.


### References
Copyvio score looks dangerously high at 67.9%; cut down quoting from the section to help resolve this
Well, looking at the supposed copyvio, there are two things to say. Firstly, the text is long out of copyright; the only material copied is Bellman's own, along with a short bit of Van Loon's translation; he died in 1944, so he too is out of copyright. Secondly, we need to give the reader a small sample of both prose and verse, and in both cases that would easily pass the fair usage test, even if we needed to apply it which we don't.
Fine, thank you for explaining the lack of copyright breaking.
Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
This isn't a GA requirement; and most of the sources are books. I've archived Ankarkrona and Bergström just in case.
I'm aware of that, but shouldn't you do it incase the links die so people can read more in the future anyway? --K. Peake 21:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
I think we're ok now, pretty much everything is either a book with "hardcopy" available, or archived.
The Bellman Society → Bellman Society on ref 2 with the wikilink
--K. Peake 21:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Done.
Ref 8 is a duplicate of ref 1
Merged.
Add language parameter for ref 9
Done.
Shouldn't you cite a source for ref 15 per Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source?
 No, this is the primary text, which WikiSource happens to have copied. It is in no way citing the encyclopedia. The text is of course available in many other places. 
Pipe Royal Swedish Library to National Library of Sweden on ref 17 and add the language parameter
Done.
The Bellman Society → Bellman Society on ref 18 and add the language parameter
Done.
Cite last name followed by first name on ref 20 and author-link Evert Taube
Done.
Use sfn for refs 21 and 22 to lead to the appropriate source, plus write p. instead of page for consistency
Done.
I can't see the original uploader because ref 23 is dead but if this was not from an official account, then remove or replace
Gone.
Remove or replace ref 24 per WP:RSPYT
Gone.
Remove or replace ref 25 since my laptop's security gives a firm warning that the site is dangerous
Done, this is a new and probably temporary thing, probably the site has been infected as it's a reputable company of many years' standing (no issue when I added it back in 2016).


### Sources
Pipe Bonniers to Bonnier Group
Done.
Simon and Schuster → Simon & Schuster
Done.


### External links
Mention the name of the website the text is at
Done.


### Final comments and verdict
 On hold until all of the issues are fixed; that went better than I expected! --K. Peake 11:45, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Many thanks, I think I've addressed all the items now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:11, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you; I have left some responses above. --K. Peake 21:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I think we're complete now; the colon is up to you if you want to risk it! Chiswick Chap (talk) 22:10, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 Pass time, I changed that part but re-worded slightly rather than adding a colon. --K. Peake 09:03, 23 November 2021 (UTC)