# Talk:Persona 3 The Movie: No. 1, Spring of Birth

I'll probably get questioned by this later so I'll leave this here. You can't use the encyclopedic section of ANN as a reference. It is considered unreliable. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 08:39, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Appreciate the heads up. That was actually one of my concerns in the Staff section. I went ahead and removed the citations. Since that was the only thing in the criteria that failed should I resubmit? KirtZMessage 08:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
There are places that looked unsourced. If you are sourcing some section with the same reference, source the first sentence and last sentence of that section. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 09:10, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
There we go. I was unsure about how the stretching of the Staff/Cast citation would look but it is indeed more appropriate than those ANN refs I had earlier. KirtZMessage 10:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Enough for a B. For GA though, you'll have to remove parts that are puffery or "stretching of the truth" such as the whole themes and analysis section. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. GA version wont be ready until end of November or so, after the film releases. KirtZMessage 03:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

NOne of the sources say "Chapter 1" why can't we use the original? is it because of the "#1"? Why can't we use "No.1" for more accuracy?Lucia Black (talk) 22:12, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

It's not that I haven't thought about or tried your suggestions in the months past. The director refers to the film as the first chapter in this official interview (see first line) in addition some of the Japanese news sites such as Famitsu have been using "劇場版「ペルソナ3」第１章" (Notice the "章")—which I've translated as "Persona 3 The Movie: Chapter 1." From a translation POV Chapter 1 seems most accurate from all of the sources I've collected. I suggest we leave the title as is for now the same as we already do with romaji titles until the movie makes it's way to the West. —KirtZMessage 22:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
guess we'll have to wait.
Alright so after 8 or so months, with the release of the BDs and reverse imports to the west with official subtitles by Aniplex etc, I switched everything over to "No." as that has become the most common name and doesn't look likely to change. —KirtZMessage 12:56, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
That's good, seeing the long name made me uneasy for a while. Lucia Black (talk) 13:02, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

@KirtZJ: this is a very well written article. I would encourage you to take it to WP:GAN and then perhaps to WP:FAC. You're likely to get more constructive feedback that way. Best. 64.40.54.96 (talk) 09:23, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Much appreciated! I'm currently in the process of planning a major expansion along with some tweaking. After that's over with I'll propose it at WP:GAN. Thanks for the assessment. —KirtZMessage 22:59, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Persona 3 The Movie: Chapter 1, Spring of Birth/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Tezero (talk · contribs) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Since I'd like to get my own nomination reviewed (and a second is almost done), I think it's only fair that I review this as well as Arkham Origins to help with the backlog. To that end, I'll write up the few issues that I think stand between this article and something I'd be happy to call a GA:

First, and most glaringly, the plot section is really short. It's almost like an advertisement, in that it doesn't state what actually happens past the first act or so. This is nice for fans who don't want spoilers, but Wikipedia recommends otherwise. Can it be expanded significantly? Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to help improve this article Tezero. The plot was the first thing I would have expanded, unfortunately I'm not in a position where I am able to view a film from Japan this soon in its release cycle from where I am. If I'm not mistaken with films of this nature, WP:ANIMANGA usually waits until they make their way over to the west through official release media before summing up an adequate plot. Although if someone had viewed the film in Japan they are more than welcome to contribute in this section. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Alright, it's not ideal, and you should still fix it when the film comes out here, but I'll let it slide. (I'd just torrent it, but you don't have to.) Tezero (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Good job citing the main character list. What about the supporting cast, though? This shouldn't be hard, considering that you were able to find sources for the main characters. (The main character list is also a little excessive in detail for the type of section it is—anything past a sentence or two, per film article conventions, should be moved elsewhere, like the Production section—but I'll let this slide for now as this isn't an FAC.) Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Due to the nature of the film in relation to what it is based on, the supporting cast is not as noteworthy as the main cast so I'm still debating as to whether or not I should leave or remove them. In any case, they were all collected in the table over here. Any thoughts? —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Why not cite them from this, like the other article does? Tezero (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
There we go. Sorry this took so long. —KirtZMessage 10:01, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Nice. Tezero (talk) 15:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
In Development, de-italicize "Atlus." Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Done. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
The word "Finally" isn't really necessary in the last sentence of Development, but if you're keeping it, add a comma.
Comma added. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Add a comma after "Meguro" in the first sentence of Music. Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Done. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Get rid of all the italics in the second paragraph of Marketing. Kotaku's a website and the rest are elements from the film and real-life places, if I'm not missing any. Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Done. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Second paragraph of Promotion: why is the fact that it was a full moon relevant? Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
The film is based on the Persona 3 video game and the full moon happens to be an integral part of its story and gameplay. Aniplex undoubtedly tried to apply use of this feature to the real world to increase the hype for the film. This makes its noteworthy as a promotional tactic. Its also included in some of the sources, mentioned numerous times in the official twitter account and the official website has a lunar calendar. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Ah. Sorry. Can't believe I missed that. Tezero (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Un-bold "Tanaka's Amazing Commodities." This should be reserved for something that the entire section focuses on and no others really touch, like Pokémon Emerald on the Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire article. Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Done. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
De-italicize "Green House Co. Ltd." Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Done. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
"Reception and themes" should become just "Reception", and the second paragraph should move to Development as it isn't really relevant to the critics. Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Actually, the second paragraph of "Reception and themes" was in another section a few months ago, however when the critic began talking about the themes of "teen suicide" I figured it may be best to have the sections combined rather than splitting the Reception. I tried to make it look something like this section in The Dark Knight article, despite there not being any analysis. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Alright. I wish there was more in the way of reviews to flesh actual reception out and thus split Themes, but I'll buy that. Tezero (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Near the end of the article: why was "coming" deliberately misspelled? If there's no available reason, leave it, but it seems like an odd bit for the source to leave out. Tezero (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
It might have been a promotional tactic however, there was no available reason released at the time. Although if I find something in the future I'll be sure to cite it. —KirtZMessage 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
I don't know that the source adequately asserts that the misspelling was deliberate. To be less presumptuous, remove that last clause and add a  [sic] after "comming". Tezero (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
How's that? —KirtZMessage 10:01, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Good! Let's do this. Tezero (talk) 15:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

In the game and the official English subtitles for the film, a character's name is written as Fuuka but every instance in the article is written is Fuka. Is there a reason for this? It makes no sense to me.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.250.239 (talk) 08:49, 2 July 2014 (UTC) 

Subtitles may be official but they are bad, and in this case we actually have the character biographies on the official website which has "Fuka". It seems like it is much like the Aigis/Aegis thing. —KirtZMessage 14:28, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
If they're official, regardless of if they're "bad", then that's what we should use. Besides, WP:COMMONNAME dictates that we should use the spelling most English-speaking readers are familiar with, which in this case would be Fuuka. -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 13:46, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
That applies to article titles. You cant treat this article as if it were the VG. It is separate. I already made my point, not much sense in repeating myself, but as I said, it is similar to the Aigis/Aegis matter. —KirtZMessage 15:04, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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