# Talk:USCGC Dione

Hey, @PhoenixCaelestis!
Since you asked me to an unofficial peer review, I figured it would make most sense to start on the article talk page. Incorporating what you said on my user talk page, I'll go slow. However, I do have a few questions that confused me when I first read the article. It looks like her yard number (number assigned by the shipyard to un-named vessels) is 277, and her hull number is WPC-107. I'm really confused what the Building Number is, and the source does not clarify. It seems to be an internal USCG value assigned to newbuilds? Also, it would be very helpful to include page numbers with every citation. Also, what is a  C strake?
Before I act, I wanted to ask about an idea I have for the infobox. It is quite long, so I plan to tuck another Infobox Ship Characteristics into the template for the 1945-era values. An example is seen on USS Gyatt's infobox with the 'General characteristics (1956 rebuild)' section. What do you think? GGOTCC 21:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

I think a second infobox section would be beneficial, GGOTCC. 
A c strake is the planking/plating that runs from the bow to stern, C merely being a way to order them. Also, I believe the building number is another form of identification for the ship when she is under construction. I think I saw a second source that mentioned it, which I will go hunt down this weekend. Sorry I went backwards in replying; hope it helps. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 01:35, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
No worries! Also, thank you for referencing the document! Reading it allowed me to learn about USCGC Leopold (WPB-1400), which I just made an article for.
For this article, it should be obvious that it is 'plank C' for clarity. These complex terms/jargon should be explained or reworded so the average reader can understand. GGOTCC 01:37, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
I am also unsure why such detail would be necessary. The article never mentioned the planks before, and the reader would have no idea how that applies with the rest of the hull. Remember, this is an encyclopedia where the goal is to summarize the sources. GGOTCC 01:48, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Tried to fix the jargon with a brief explanation, feel free to edit. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 01:52, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! It's getting late and I need to go to bed, but that is a good step. You might want to also read over the article and ask yourself, "Which details here are important for the reader"? I'll work on the infobox tomorrow. GGOTCC 01:57, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Just tried to do the infobox and messed something up.. please help T-T PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 13:15, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
I copied the infobox into a sandbox. How does this look? Feel free to make your own edits/changes/copy it! GGOTCC 13:24, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Cleaned up my version of the infobox to get rid of duplicate info and found her transponder type on MarineTraffic.. any chance you'd happen to have a paid membership to the website to see the other info it has? If you don't, it's fine - don't go out of your way and get a membership just for this. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 19:42, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
I used to, but not anymore. I don't think the free 7-day trial would help either. However, MarineTraffic and those websites like to 'blur' out values to make you buy a subscription before revealing that it has no data on that specific vessel. Since the website has nothing else on the ship, I feel like it will be an empty profile. GGOTCC 14:42, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Fixed! The issue was because |} (what ends the entire infobox) was excluded from the bottom of the template but included before the second Ship Characteristics infobox. GGOTCC 13:30, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Oh good lord, I would've never caught that. Wikimarkup, besides the basic stuff, is completely beyond me. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 14:18, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
That's what I used to say, but the only reason why I have learned is because I've made that same mistake countless of times myself. GGOTCC 15:05, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
@PhoenixCaelestis Would you like me to do the part of the design, or would you like to do it yourself? I do not want to step on your toes before a GA review. GGOTCC 01:07, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
You can go ahead and do it yourself if you're willing and able, but I'll probably come along after you've done that and clean a bit to make sure it stays consistent with the style of the rest of the article. I'm a bit busy at the moment with personal stuff and other Wikipedia projects (I'm gonna try and work on the page for the Navy of the Ukrainian People's Republic, it's a hot mess 😭). PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 01:13, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the response! I have free time and a need to procrastinate, so here we go! Good luck with the other articles. GGOTCC 01:15, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:USCGC Dione/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: PhoenixCaelestis (talk · contribs) 13:29, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: MWFwiki (talk · contribs) 22:23, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

@MWFwiki - any chance you could say what you’d classify as “extraneous information” in the Second Happy Time section? I’m more than happy to trim but I want to know what should be trimmed. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 00:51, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
Ultimately, I'm not convinced that you could trim enough to make a significant difference in the length, so that's why I didn't expound. That being said, there are some mild prose issues, as well. For example; "Much to McCormick's anger, the cutter seemed to be too far away whenever she raced to respond to distress signals, so the lieutenant decided to take an offensive strategy to his patrols, using Dioneas a killer rather than a rescuer. After deducing that U-boats generally attacked at night and "slept" during the day, McCormick decided to abandon his usual routine in favor of grid-searching the waters off the Outer Banks for U-boats."I would, for instance, write it as: "McCormick realized that the Dione tended to be too far away from vessels when they issued distress signals, so he ordered more aggressive and offensive patrols. After determining that U-boats generally attacked at night, McCormick decided to abandon his usual routine in favor of grid-searching the waters off the Outer Banks for U-boats." This latter sentence, it could use a bit more context... "why" are grid searches more important at night? How is it different from the usual routine? Perhaps combine the last two sentences together? Otherwise, just some added "neutrality" to the prose. Less "narration" and more "factual assertion." Even if that is how the sources frame things, unless we're quoting directly, we should try to soften the language a bit.As far as the length, again, really not much that could be trimmed, I suppose. That said, I do have some additional suggestions:
I would make it read: "On 19 April, Dione led a convoy of nine civilian vessels alongside another by an 88-foot cutter [do you know which? Would be good to add, here]. The convoy passed Cape Hatteras without incident. A USN aircraft then altered the convoy to an incoming torpedo; Alger ordered evasive maneuvers and the torpedo missed Dione but struck the tanker Axtell J. at 2000 hours, which sank some time thereafter. Dione would drop depth-charges in response to the attack, with the charges hitting "something," [obviously only use quotes if this is what the sources says] but no kill was confirmed. Following this incident, it was decided that the convoys should run at night to reduce the risk of casualties." [which convoys? All convoys? Everywhere? Just in this region? Who decided it?]This, instead of how it currently reads: "On 19 April, Dione arrived to escort a convoy by herself. She initially met up with eight merchant ships of several nationalities, and was eventually joined by a British trawler and an 88-foot cutter. Alger ordered his ship to the front of the convoy. Dione's crew became concerned about the number of targets in the convoy, mainly big tankers. The convoy moved past Cape Hatteras without incident, and Alger was nearing the drop-off point by 1900 hours. He had used Dione as a destroyer, screening and picking up stragglers in an attempt to keep them up. Suddenly, a torpedo appeared in the water, racing towards the cutter. A USN airplane appeared and began diving towards the convoy, Alger giving the order to turn hard to starboard and move full ahead. The torpedo meant for Dione missed the cutter but instead struck the tanker Axtell J. Byles at 2000 hours, which sank some time thereafter. Something was struck by one of Dione's depth charges. Following this incident, it was decided that the convoys should run at night to reduce the risk of casualties."These are just examples, and I would argue that entire section could use some re-wording along these lines. MWFwiki (talk) 01:59, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for this, I’ll get to work soon! PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 09:55, 24 September 2025 (UTC)


### USCGC Dione
I've listed this article for peer review because I am interested in getting this article to Featured Article status in the future. I believe I have addressed the concerns of the GA review and want more eyes on this article for potential issues.
Thanks, PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 17:11, 30 September 2025 (UTC)