# Talk:Wavelength (1967 film)

An editor asks a good question in an edit summary on the article page: how does this film, produced in Dec. 1966, use a song from Feb. 1967? My guess would be that the song was added at a later date, since the film was not edited until 1967 and released in '67. Of course my guesses are not worth much according to WP:RS. A book published in 2009, Michael Snow: Wavelength by Elizabeth Legge, published by Afterall Books, apparently goes into great detail on the use of the song. As anyone who has seen the film knows, the song is in the film, so that's not in doubt. What needs clarifying is how this was done given the date issue. I have a copy of the book -- unread -- but I'm in the midst of moving so I can't retrieve it. If anyone else has access, please update this. Otherwise, I'll expand that section to clarify things at a later date. freshacconci talktalk 18:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Should James Rolfe be a reliable source of critical reception to  Michael Snow's magnum opus or not? Espngeek (talk) 12:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

I would say, not as a reliable source of critical reception, because he is primarily a game critic and filmmaker. However, that section could still mention something like, "In April 2022, James Rolfe called Wavelength the worst film."

With the notability of his comment stemming from him being a semi-celebrity, particularly now that the section name also includes "legacy". --2001:1C06:19CA:D600:E873:BCB1:357C:5A3E (talk) 17:12, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

After expanding the article a bit, I wanted to leave a note of caution on using online databases and event listings for Wavelength as sources. There's lots of apocryphal or incorrect information floating around. Previous versions of the article had misspellings of some of the cast along with an additional cast member "Amy Yadrin" (apparently an incorrect transcription of Amy Taubin). Since you can see these in IMDb and lots of sites that use IMDb, I'd suggest checking against sources closer to the film's release date.
I'm planning on replacing the current poster image, which is actually a re-edit of this poster from the Sprocket Society. It was being presented here as advertising a new print, when it was actually an ad for a single 2011 screening of Wavelength and Breakfast (Table Top Dolly). It's a misleading image to use since the picture comes from WVLNT and not Wavelength. Considering the film didn't have a poster for the first 40 years after its release, I think we should follow what secondary sources did during that time and use a still from the film.
Right now there's a black-and-white still, which could be replaced with a color image showing a wide shot of the loft, to better illustrate the space and avoid identifying Wavelength as a primarily black-and-white film. Depending on how much commentary there is on each of these subjects, it may be helpful to include images illustrating (1) the wave photograph at the end of the film (2) what the non-representational images of the loft look like (3) WVLNT. hinnk (talk) 20:33, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@Hinnk: Unless someone else gets to it before me, this will be the next article I'm reviewing for GA. I just read over it once and I wanted to give you a heads up that a recent change at WP:V means that your "Cast" section requires citations for each person, even if that information is cited in the linked article. The policy now says: "When material that needs an inline citation appears in two or more articles, an inline citation is needed in each article." Cheers, MediaKyle (talk) 18:29, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Sure, in the current version I took the cast list directly from the film's credits, because of the widespread errors in secondary sources (see above). I can add a {{Cite AV media}} citation if you think that'd be an improvement, or the best secondary source I could find was probably this article from Hauser & Wirth, which I avoided relying on because I'm not sure what their editorial process looks like. hinnk (talk) 19:30, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
That makes sense that the best source for the cast would be the film itself, especially if secondary sources get it wrong - I took a look around, and at Enthiran#Cast they just cited the film itself with a timestamp for the credits, I think that would fit the bill. If you don't like the redundancy of the same citation on each entry you could shoehorn the reference in above or below the list instead like at The Great Silence#Cast, whatever you prefer. MediaKyle (talk) 19:44, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
Done, added a {{Cite AV media}} citation based on the format at The Great Silence#Cast. hinnk (talk) 20:16, 26 July 2025 (UTC)