# Talk:Yuri (genre)

腐女子 (rotten girl) and 腐男子 (rotten boy) are are the terms for female and male fans of yaoi.
Are there terms like these for denoting fans of yuri? WakandaQT (talk) 18:41, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but there are likely equivalents out there. --Historyday01 (talk) 19:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
"Himedanshi" for men, but it might be hard to find an RS on it. Sandtalon (talk) 23:46, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

The "Nominal sexual content" section is entirely based on one source from 2010 and doesn't reflect the more recent changes in the yuri genre. As mentioned in the section "2010s-present: Genre diversification", yuri works have grown a lot in recent years and included in this is changes in sexual content. Some of these include very popular works like Bloom Into You and Kase-san featuring their main couples reaching the stage of sex (Bloom Into You's sex scene is very de-sexualized but explicit, Kase-san's is more of a fade to black scenario), others such as My Lesbian Experience With Loneliness, Even If It Was Just Once, I Regret It, Looking Up To Magical Girls/Gushing Over Magical Girls, How Do We Relationship?, and Asumi-chan Is Interested In Lesbian Brothels, are all popular and more heavily focus on the sexual aspects of lesbian relationships. Along with Even If It Was Just Once, I Regret It, many others of the recent influx of adult oriented (as in of adults/working people) yuri works don't shy away from sex. I don't know how common the sexual aspects are in relation to yaoi or het works if that's the basis of this section, but I do think it could use updating to better reflect the current state of yuri.  Orangechrisy (talk) 21:22, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Hmm. The "2010s-present: Genre diversification" cites an Anime News Network piece and Mary Sue piece, but neither specifically talks about sexual content beyond, in the Mary Sue piece saying "...yuri isn’t supposed to capture adult sexual relationships", "she tells the reader about her codependent desire for a mother figure and its sexual manifestation" (in reference to My Lesbian Experience With Loneliness/"Sabishisugite Lesbian Fuzoku Ni Ikimashita"), while the ANN piece just talking about the genre generally, not about any sexual content. The piece on Japanpowered (by Chris Kincaid) linked in the Mary Sue piece, does the same, in terms of talking about the genre.
While saying all of that, I'd support updating the section as long as there are reliable sources (i.e. authors which have talked about sexual content in yuri in recent years), to support those changes. There might be something about this within By Your Side: The First 100 Years of Yuri Anime and Manga. Historyday01 (talk) 12:59, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
Should we seriously discuss this? Even if we forget that as a genre describing lesbian relationships, yuri is quite wide and varied (not to mention the platonic yuri), I thought that the ignorant division of yuri into sexual and not died back in the late 00s. I think it won't be a problem to just replace it with more up-to-date sources (or more neutral ones from resources like Yuricon), or even remove it if it supports legacy assertions. Solaire the knight (talk) 13:54, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
I agree. I also think it wouldn't be a problem to replace it with more up-to-date sources. Historyday01 (talk) 13:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Are there any other ways to spell yuri with one kanji besides 閖 and 岼?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:4040:A5F2:D300:1848:4D4E:DAC3:4B98 (talk) 16:14, 7 March 2025 (UTC) 

The section on the semantic difference between yuri and lesbian fiction is well written, but I'm confused by the section on sociopolitical interpretations, as it's too abstract and too tied to Western queer feminists (both of whom had nothing to do with yuri and even lived before it was formalized as a genre), while ignoring Japanese gender studies. Is there a problem with Japanese sources that discuss yuri in the context of Japanese lesbianism or feminism? I remember Erica reviewing some overtly political yuri or female homoerotic titles. For example, Utena or Yuri Kuma Arashi by Kunihiko Ikuhara, which discuss gender roles in Japan and lesbian erasure in Japanese fiction. Solaire the knight (talk) 22:27, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Kazumi Nagaike, the one being referenced in that section, is a Japanese professor, so while the text of the article is in English, it's pretty good as a Japanese source, and the article cited contains a number of purely Japanese citations itself. But more sources is always good, and the article is from 2010 so there's certainly been developments since. Orangechrisy (talk) 09:58, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
No one is saying the source is unauthoritative. It's just a bit odd to see such a relatively old and rather philosophically abstract source as the main one in an important section of an article from 2025. The fact that it is English is not the end of the world, but in the absence of more general ones it seems too abstract, if you know what I mean. I'll see if there are any options in the Japanese article, if you don't mind. Solaire the knight (talk) 10:17, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
Regarding the sexual context, yes. The article seems to completely ignore how the genre has evolved over the years (ranging from yuri fanservice for straight man to erotic yuri in general), not to mention that one of the very first yuri anime was explicit hentai. I tried to bring this up before, but I ultimately deleted my thread because I didn't have the time or energy to discuss it. Solaire the knight (talk) 10:21, 17 November 2025 (UTC)