# Talk:The United States of America (album)

I haven't seen the flag graphics prior...cute...and good content.  Tvccs 18:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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Hi! I don't know if you've seen this discussion page - it sort of confirms what I remember, that "The Garden of Earthly Delights" was issued as a single in the UK. It was certainly played on radio a fair amount - unfortunately I didn't buy it because I was saving up for the LP, which I still have and treasure.  Can you/we track down any confirmation that it was issued as a single?  Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi! I'm doing some research on some off time now. I'll look into it to find for certain that it was released. Hard to find discographies on these sort of things for bands that generally only had one full LP. I'll look around though. Cheers! Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Great stuff! Is this guy Richard Durrett?  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi again! thanks! I was sort of on a wiki-sugar rush with that article. Thanks for correcting my awful grammar. I don't know if that's the same one. And I've yet to find much about it's british release, as it didn't sell well in the UK. Curses. Thanks noticing! :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Although it's true that the album didn't sell well enough in a short time in the UK to make any charts, it certainly gained a following in "underground" circles of the time, both because "Garden.." was played on a few radio shows, but mainly because "..Wooden Wife.." was featured on this sampler album, which because it was so inexpensive and featured both highly respected and new artists became an essential purchase for a great many people (teenagers and older) at the time, and sold a lot of copies. (Apparently Byrd didn't know about this until I raised it here in discussion with another fan a couple of years ago.) I'm sure the USA album sold a fair few copies in the UK, but spread over a long period (as did, for instance, Love's Forever Changes).  Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I wasn't referring specifically to the idea that people didn't like the album in the UK. I'm sure it has it's audience I was just saying to it's popularity in comparison to how it charted in the US. I haven't found citable information about singles in other countries except with an interview with Dorothy Moskowitz saying that she thinks there were some singles in other countries, which isn't really a strong enough thing to state I think...Thanks for your concern though. I'm glad you like The USA as much as I do, if not more. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I notice you've changed the main sleeve illustration to the "paper bag".  In the UK, that version was never issued (so far as I'm aware), and it's always been the other version (black with divided circle of photos) that the album has been known by.  My opinion would be that the pictures would be better changed around, with the black/photos version as the main one by which it is known globally, and the paper bag version as a subsidiary illustration to show the original US issue - what do you think?  Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for taking such an interest in the album and article. It's a good point, but considering the group is American I think the original American cover is better for historical context. The other cover should definitely be shown as well though. I kind of wanted to add it to the infobox, but I didn't want to the article to become ridiculously huge. That's just my idea on it. What do you think? Andrzejbanas (talk) 07:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
No big deal - see if anyone else supports my opinion.  But I've modified the caption, for clarity.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Good call. Thanks for being supportive on my idea about it too. Good call on editing the text. Thanks again! Andrzejbanas (talk) 07:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, not familiar with editing Wikipedia but I believe AA Milne should be credited with the lyrics for Cloud Song — unless they’re even older than his use. Google them and I’m sure you’ll agree they’re not original in this album. Can someone let me know if they concur?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.115.160.137 (talk) 17:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC) 

Didn't think this would be controversial but apparently it is. There is an image in the article that uses the word "advert" (short for "advertisement") in the caption and alt text. I changed this to "ad", which is the standard informal shortening of "advertisement" in US English, since the article is incontrovertibly a US topic (the album was recorded in the US by a band from the US on a US record label, is titled The United States of America, etc.). It was reverted on the grounds that "'Advert' is used in US English". I dispute this claim and provide the following evidence:

Wiktionary tags the term as "British"
Merriam-Webster tags the term as "chiefly British"
American Heritage Dictionary tags the term as "Chiefly British"
Dictionary.com tags the term as "Chiefly British" and goes on to state that advert "is primarily used in the U.K. in the same way that American speakers use the word ad."
Not sure what the proper procedure is for this since I don't want to start an edit war, but the word should be changed to either "ad" or "advertisement". -170.213.22.116 (talk) 21:35, 16 April 2025 (UTC)