# Talk:Shockwave (Six Flags Great America)

Moving this from unrefrenced to fact tag and back again is not really achieving anything, folks; end of the day it is not a big deal which tag is on it is it? Either way, the real problem which everybody seems to agree with is that there is unveriified uncited material; hence the solution to resolving the unreferenced/fact tag reverts would seem to me to be to get rid of the need for those tags; either by finding the cites, or by boldly getting rid of the offensive material (which most people seem to have "some" issue with) until such time as there are references...just a thought 

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Shockwave (Six Flags Great America)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Plighting Engineerd (talk · contribs) 00:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: History6042 (talk · contribs) 02:34, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
I’ll do this one. History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:34, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for picking up this nomination! I'm ready to respond to feedback as soon as you've got it. Plighting Engineerd (talk) 15:29, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
Hello and I’m sorry I haven’t gotten to it yet, I haven’t been able to edit much lately because of my computer mouse breaking and then being busy but I think I can get to it soon. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:54, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi! That's ok, no rush! As for fixing the mouse, try to feed it some cheese, I hear they like that 🧀 Plighting Engineerd (talk) 18:57, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
Finally have a mouse and time to do this, I can finish the review by tonight or tomorrow. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:17, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
@Plighting Engineerd, review done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:01, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
@History6042: Amazing, thanks so much! I've implemented most of the suggestions and replied to any I had questions about. Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)


### Review
#### Prose
Please add whatever 54 inches is in feet and inches because I think that is more recognizable then 54 inches. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:00, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
Ride height restrictions are typically expressed in inches (by parks, media, and ride signage) and SheiKra and Millennium Force, two roller coaster FAs, both use inches for the height restriction exclusively. Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Okay, seems good. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:59, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
In the records, it says "First Roller Coaster With 7 Inversions" and shows something preceding it. Something that was first by definition cannot have a predecessor. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:00, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
I completely agree. For whatever reason, that is the format which all pages for inversion record-breaking coasters use. I think it would be best to change all the instances of "First Roller Coaster With x Inversions" to something like "Most Inversions on a Roller Coaster". What do you think? Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with this. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:59, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
 Done Plighting Engineerd (talk) 02:56, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
"Shockwave's ride experience was later regarded as rough, and multiple guests reported minor injuries obtained by riding the coaster." is in passive voice. Please put it in active voice. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:00, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
 Done Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
"Ron Toomer, and was manufactured" -> "Ron Toomer and was manufactured" History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:00, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
 Done Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
"The ride was located in a plot of land which was previously part of the park's parking lot." -> "The ride was located in a plot of land, which was previously part of the park's parking lot."
I reworded it to "The ride was constructed on land that had previously been part of the park's parking lot." Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
"Milwaukee Journal Sentinel documented that in 1994" -> "the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel documented that in 1994"
 Done Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
"of land which was formerly" -> "of land that was formerly"
 Done Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:00, 13 September 2025 (UTC)


#### References
Earwig found copyright issues with [1]. Here is the link for you to fix the issues: [2]. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
I have reworded the sentence about where the trains were sent to fix a few errors and to move the wording away from the CoasterCritic source. The rest of the wording matches Earwig found are either names ('Six Flags Great America', and most notably 'Great American Scream Machine at Six Flags Great Adventure and Viper at Six Flags Magic Mountain', a long snippet that is simply two roller coasters and their parks listed in chronological order) or coincidentally identical snippets from paragraphs where I didn't use the CoasterCritic article as a source ('three vertical loops, a batwing...' - simply listing the coaster's elements in order, 'the world's tallest and fastest' - common phrase when describing roller coasters). If you believe this is still an issue let me know and I can work on rewording some of those. Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
It seems good enough now. History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:00, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
I will spotcheck sources 1, 12, 16, 24, and 35. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
1 - Pass History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
12 - Fail - Doesn't say anything about being similar to Shockwave. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
Hm, good point. The point of 12 was to source the height and speed stats, and the fact that that made it the tallest in the world. I'll have to find another source for the claim about the layouts being similar. Would it be acceptable to provide https://rcdb.com/4.htm and https://rcdb.com/34.htm (both RS which show the same element list) or would that be too WP:SYNTH? Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
16 - Can you provide this source to me as I don't have a Publisher Extra subscription. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
No, I think that those should be added. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:17, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
I believe the extracted text should still be accessible for free and without an account under the heading "Extracted Article Text (OCR)" Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
24 - Can you provide this source to me as I don't have access. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
The full text of the source is:
"Superman - The Ultimate Flight" is the name of the new Bolliger & Mabillard flying coaster set to premier at Six Flags Great America, Gurnee, Ill., later this spring. The ride will be located in the Orleans Place area of the park on the site of the former Shockwave that was dismantled last fall. The three-minute ride will cover 2,798 feet of track and will reach 115 feet tall at its highest peak. Six Flags Great Adventure, Jackson, N.J., is also getting the same ride, with the same name, in time for the 2003 season. This style of coaster made its U.S. debut at Six Flags Over Georgia, Atlanta in 2002. - TO.
Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
36 - Pass History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
@Plighting Engineerd, I can pass the source review once you add the two sources for similarity. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:18, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
@History6042:  Done Plighting Engineerd (talk) 13:48, 27 September 2025 (UTC)


#### Breadth
Has history, characteristics,  reception, and records sections. Could a section be added by taking some info from other sections, mainly the injury, speed, and experience parts from History and the injuries part from Reception. It could be called something like Experience (like from the person riding it). History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
I feel like this could lead to lots of repeated info, as much of what you mentioned (I believe) is important context to the other sections. Could you explain further what you mean? I'm definitely open to the idea. Plighting Engineerd (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Not too detailed. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)


#### Neutrality
Seems all good, no promotional content. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)


#### Stability
All good, no edit warring nor major changes. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)


#### Images
File:Shockwave (Six Flags Great America) 2002 1 (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0 - Validly licensed from Flickr.
File:Shockwave (Six Flags Great America) components.JPG - Public Domain - Made and published by an editor.
File:Shockwave (Six Flags Great America) Layout.png - CC0 - You made this one.
Image review pass. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

Pass History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:06, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
@History6042: You passed this GA, but forgot to update the article, leaving it still pending. I’ve fixed it for you. 😉 Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:17, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it, and sorry for forgetting. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:05, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Thanks very much to both of you! Plighting Engineerd (talk) 20:27, 9 October 2025 (UTC)