# Talk:Subtropical Storm Alpha (1972)

What a disaster. Move it back to the way it was pre-2018. I like to saw logs! (talk) 20:11, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

An editor WP:BOLDly moved it to Subtropical Storm Alpha (1972) and changed the leftover redirect at Subtropical Storm AlphaSubtropical Storm Alpha to point to a disambiguation page, Tropical Storm Alpha, which now lists 4 storms: SS Alpha (1972), SS Alfa (1975), TS Alpha (2005), and the currently active storm, SS Alpha (2020).  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:50, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

This article needs to be renamed. NHC seasonal tracks has it as “Alfa” not “Alpha”. And the NATO phoenetic alphabet that was in use also uses Alfa. Juliett as well instead of Juliet. https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tracks/tracks-at-1972.pngOWGNicholas (talk) 06:37, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

This article does not need to be renamed per WP:Common Name since the system seems to have been named Alpha by NHC, rather than Alfa, which seems to be used like a typo.Jason Rees (talk) 11:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
It was named Alpha as per the NHC’s seasonal tracks as i linked above. The NATO phoenetic alphabet, in use since 1956, uses Alfa instead of Alpha. Thats where the subtropical storm names come from. Also 1973 they use Alfa as well.OWGNicholas (talk) 13:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
@OWGNicholas: The NHC modern-day seasonal track map or any other sources does not supersede WP:Common Name, the advisories from the time and the majority of sources which use Alpha.Jason Rees (talk) 18:23, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
There are just as many that refer to it by the proper name of Alfa, including the seasonal report from the NHC: https://journals.ametsoc.org/downloadpdf/view/journals/mwre/101/4/1520-0493_1973_101_0323_ahso_2_3_co_2.pdf
It would be more appropriate to use BOTH in the title actually. Since it appears that they used the correct name Alfa in some instances and used the incorrect form in others. Guess thats what happens in a pre-internet age though. But Alfa was the correct version, hence why 1973’s storm used that. Seems like they realized what happened and made sure to not make that mistake again. OWGNicholas (talk) 21:48, 9 October 2024 (UTC)