# Talk:Yoshi's Island DS

Checking Google, there are literally NO references to this game as Super Mario World 3. The only references to anything as "Super Mario World 3" are typos for Super Mario Advance 3, Yoshi's Island (the original), Super Mario Land 3 or Super Mario Bros 3.
The one reference to Yoshi's Island 2 involving "Super Mario World 3" is a forum post lamenting the fact that it is not called Super Mario World 3, and Kotaku saying "To be technically correct, this game should be called Super Mario World 3". There's no discussion on the topic, and the only Google result on the first 5-6 pages that suggests that Super Mario World 3 is a name that some people use to describe this game is Wikipedia.
If no one can cite people sometimes calling this Super Mario World 3, there's no reason to say it's sometimes called Super Mario World 3.

I'm thinking of this like Wario Land: you could call Wario Lands 2, 3 and 4 Super Mario Lands 4, 5 and 6... but you wouldn't. Vitriol 16:32, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

"rare sequel to a sequel"? That's like saying Final Fantasy X is a "sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a sequel". It's not rare.

Yes.  Also, in Japan it's not called "Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island," it's called "Super Mario: Yoshi's Island," like how "Super Mario World" was "Super Mario Bros. 4."
Actually it was called both in Japan as this boxart shows. [1]. --Edgelord 02:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't you call this game Super Mario World 3?
Nope. This is the proper title - Yoshi's Island 2. --Thorpe | talk 18:30, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Actually, it is rare. What that person meant was that Yoshi's Island 2 is a direct sequel to a sequel. It is the equivalent of Final Fantasy X-2 - a direct sequel to a sequel of the main series. Final Fantasy X-2 isn't Final Fantasy XI, in exactly the same way that Yoshi's Island 2 isn't Super Mario World 3 - it's a direct sequel to that particular game, and not the main series.
"What that person meant was that Yoshi's Island 2 is a direct sequel to a sequel." You mean like Super Mario Bros 3?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.80.239.162 (talk) 08:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to go STRAIGHT ahead and change something.  I'm sure all fans of Yoshi know that Yoshi's Story is the true sequel to Yoshi's Island, and at a time was going to come out as Super Mario Advance 5.  This solidifies it in the Mario Side-Scrolling Series, and so is the true Super Mario World 3 (although this is only literal--no Mario; this also occurs with Wario in terms of Super Mario Land).  Yoshi's Island 2 is the Sequel to Yoshi's Story.

Then it would have been called Yoshi's Story 2, no? Also I do not recall anything beyond an early tech demo that even implied Yoshi's Story would be SMA5. I think Nintendo has officially disowned that game. Manmonk 04:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
All right.  This argument is getting ridiculous.  First of all, who's to say that this game isn't in fact a PREQUEL to Yoshi's Story?  Think about it, Yoshi's Story does not feature the babies, while this game continues on in the same format as Yoshi's Island.  Then technically this game could be called Super Mario World 3.  OR, more accuratly, Super Mario Bros. 6, while Yoshi's Story would then be Super Mario World 4 or Super Mario Bros. 7.  Now, bear in mind that since his debut in Super Mario World, Yoshi has spun off into his own series.  This is evidenced by the fact that his Smash Bros. symbol is an egg instead of a mushroom.  So this game really shouldn't be referred to as "Super Mario" anything.  This is why most game makers drop the numeral identifier from their titles.  Take this game for what it is: a follow-up to Yoshi's Island, hence, Yoshi's Island 2 is a perfect title for this game, and should be kept as so.
SaturnYoshi | TALK 01:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
This is really preposterous. We cannot verify anything about this game if it is the sequel or not. Nintendo has said nothing about this being Super Mario Bros 6 or anything stupid like that. Yohsi Story is NOT a Super Mario Bros. If this was a SMA5, then it would be for the GBA. All we CAN verify is that it is a new Yoshi's Island Adventure for the Nintendo DS and we will not be posting any random crud like if its the long lost sequel or SMA5, or SMB6. Let's just leave it as a new Yoshi Island adventure. Unless we recieve new information about the game or if the Stroy reveals anything, we cannot confirm anything. However, Nintendo Power's 2006 December issue (actually November, as you know, it is one month ahead.) says that Kamek is making a new plan. But it appears as if he left Baby Bowser out of it. Until we see the story or anything else, please do not put up any unconfirmed info. --~Voxx 03:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I recently played this game, and it is indeed the true sequel to the first YI. The game shows the events of the first game during the opening.
Excuse me but isn't Yoshi Touch & Go the first sequel to continue the story? I mean it takes place right after Yoshi's Island ends and starts with Kamek kidnapping the babies again. Just because you can't beat the game (seeing that it acts like an arcade game) doesn't mean that it does not continue the story, so it's still essential to the story line. Because of this Yoshi's Island DS should be the second sequel to continue the story. 
--Mariofan 3:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Touch & Go is a sequel same as how Super Mario Kart is a sequel to Super Mario World. They're spinoffs. - A Link to the Past (talk) 10:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I mean first of all, the first game was legendary, and was developed by Shigeru Miyamoto himself, and now the official sequel is being made by a third party company, now that seems ridiculous! Also, I don't see Artoon anywhere on the Nintendo site, it just says Artoon on regular game sites like IGN and Gamespot, and they're not always right, take Pokemon Ranger for example, it says on IGN that the game was developed by Ambrella, but on the official site, it says that it's being developed by HAL Laboratory! Same thing goes for Nintendo Power, they had their moments as well, how do we know that they didn't just take that info from IGN or Gamespot? I haven't seen an interview or an OFFICAL confirmation yet! - Hero of legend 9:59PM, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The August issue of Nintendo Power (V206) confirmed that the developer is indeed Artoon.  They also developed Yoshi Topsy Turvy, but that game didn't quite live up to standard.  So I guess they were given a second chance. -SaturnYoshi 04:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Don't worry, even though the game IS being developed by Artoon, it is being directed by Takashi Tezuka, whom directed Super Mario Bros 3, the original Yoshi's Island, Zelda: A Link to the Past, and many more.--Bentendo24 18:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Ahem, Tezuka was also responsible for Yoshi's Story, and look how that turned out. The Legend of Miyamoto 19:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Every director has a dud.  Miyamoto directed Super Mario Bros. 2, considered by many to be the weirdest and weakest Mario platformer. Hbdragon88 03:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
In the actual game, it straight up says that it's by Artoon. 70.111.28.24 16:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Kevin
Thank God the game turned out decent; far exceeding my expectations. Ashnard talk 19:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

So, Baby Wario and DK are by Artoon?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.35.130.53 (talk) 18:19, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Changed old details. I don't no how to change the picture so if anyone can u can find the picture at http://gonintendo.com/?p=6389.
Thanks (sorry 4 being a n00b)

There's no trivia section, but the red alligator that first appears in the level "Up the Creek" Is an obvious refrence to the alligator that appears in the game, "Donkey Kong Junior"

Is Yoshi's Island DS and Yoshi's Island 2 the same? sorry to ask but i need to know cause it confuses me. BlackMoney 04:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, they are the same game. Glad to help. Captain Underpants King 20:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
ThankYou BlackMoney 04:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I recently began playing this game (don't ask how), and I noticed that the Training Course from the first YI also appears in YIDS. Also, stage 1-1 is similar to YI's 1-1, it even has the same stage card from the first game. I will play further to catch more details.
Update: The Black and White Yoshis from Yoshi's Story return in this game. This time, the white Yoshi is playable in the Extra stages. Black Yoshi is playable in the Secret stages.
How did you play the game must I ask? Captain Underpants King 20:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

The same way I'm playing it, I presume. :P --Guess Who 03:55, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Is this game not going to be released in Japan? It needs to be specifically stated if its not and the information needs to be added if it is.--SeizureDog 15:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Why, are you Japanese? User:Goodgirldv9898 10:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I have passed this article and it is now a Good Article. It is well referenced, and in my opinion is easy to understand. --SonicChao talk 15:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Is there actually a difference between Baby Bowser and Bowser Jr. on Yoshi's Island Ds? User:Goodgirldv9898 8:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Bowser Jr. is not on that game. --Xparasite9 (talk) 03:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Before this gets out of hand between User:Ashnard and User:Steel359, I think that what Steel359 is saying is that if you are going to include the story into this page (which is already considered a good article and gone through considerable review), the story needs to be highly attributed and cannot be original, uncited research, which is what Ashnard is posting.  From what I've seen of Ashnard's story, it's definitely a tad lengthy for a game like this one (where there is not much story to begin with), but it's still worth to add a bit more than the one sentence in the headed.  It just needs to have citations (as suggested by the CVG project). --Masem 22:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I wholeheartedly agree. – Steel 22:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Though I don't agree with what's currently up there. – Steel 22:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
As do I, you do know that I didn't write that, I've modified it slightly but I'd be ashamed to call the section my work, it really wass poorly constructed. As for attribution, I can name many game pages that fall victim to this, I'm not excusing it but saying it's not exclusive to YIDS. I'm going to bed now, I'll finish revising tomorrow although my knowledge of it is a little hazy. Ashnard need sleep. Thanks Ashnard talk 22:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
As an editor on maaaaaaany game pages, I know there's a heck of a lot of game page with bad story attributions, so I wouldn't be so quick to say that "no story attribution == delete"; as the pages get tossed in for peer-review, the lack of attribution is raised and then corrected, so it will work itself out in the end.  I think the point for specifically YI:DS is that this page has gone through a review process so any edits that are made the page have to be carefully considered to not detract from the quality that the page has already met.
So basically, just take what's there (I understand it's not yours, so that's fine), make it more encyclopedic in style (eg there's a line than ends in an exclamation point) and then add references.  Commonly accepted based on CVG is to use quotes from the game itself or manual or "tier one" reviews, should they have it.
War averted :-) --Masem 22:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I've just added th first story citation, could you guys check it over? Ashnard talk 09:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to reiterate what I've been saying on my talk page. The story practically doesn't exist. Five or six lines, please, not six paragraphs. WP:WAF, chaps. – Steel 12:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
As you wish; I'll proceed with shortening it now.Ashnard talk 15:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
OK, I've begrudgingly modified it, I just think it looks strange that the story is about four times shorter than the gameplay, but nevermind. Ashnard talk 15:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I used the spoiler analogy so I could give you my reservations in a nice manner so some of you could understand. My point is, regardless of how obvious or unnecessary it seems considering the nature of mario game; we cannot dismiss it because of popular culture in which Mario storylines are ridiculed, it is not encyclopaedic to omit that beacuse of that. The martian thing was half joke, half-serious -- what if someone didn't actually know or want to know spoilers? What if someone was unfamiliar with the Mario seems, as strange as that may seem. Any thoughts? Ashnard talk 08:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, come on. – Steel 12:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but I'm none-the-wiser after that comment. Ashnard talk 12:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

*Sigh, and prepares the explanation he gives everytime this happens*The use of spoiler warnings is disputed. Some like them, others don't. There's been hundreds of kbs worth of discussion about them (I looked for the link, but couldn't seem to find it - will look harder if necessary). Nobody managed to reach a consensus on what to do, so now we use them on a case by case basis. "The good guys win", which is what these 'spoilers' amount to, isn't anything that warrants the use of spoiler tags. And it's not just Mario games, the good guys winning is what happens in 95% of everything. The Wikipedia bar at the bottom of every page contains a link to Wikipedia:Content disclaimer which makes spoiler tags somewhat redundant. Lastly, I point you to FFVIII, SotC, MGS, MGS3, Devil May Cry and other featured articles which contain way more spoilers than Yoahi's Island. – Steel 12:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I guess that clears things up, it's spoiler tags for the off then -- Marty the Martian will just have to look on in horror ;). Ashnard talk 12:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I've added a [citation needed] tag to the Engine section seeming that there hasn't yet been any evidence provided to support that the game was made with the same engine as Super Mario Advance 3: Yoshi's Island.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.99.68.132 (talk) 13:54, 3 May 2009 (UTC) 

I look at the list of Yoshi titles and this game is titled for the Australian release there as "November 17, 2006." However, on this page it is shown as "November 23, 2006." Which one is it? 202.67.76.103 (talk) 07:05, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

"Super Mario World 3" redirects here, but I thought there already was a Super Mario World 3! Is there? Will you please answer me?
Only SMW2YI for SNES and YT&G & YSDS for DS.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.28.115.115 (talk) 20:55, 14 October 2014 (UTC) 

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