# Talk:The Hanging Tree (The Hunger Games song)

Can someone please explain to me why this song is being attributed to James Newton Howard (in the infobox of this article as well as on YouTube)?  According to this article (and other sources), the lyrics were written by Suzanne Collins, the music was composed by Jeremiah Fraites and Wesley Schultz (Lumineers), and the song was sung by Jennifer Lawrence.  What did Howard have to do with it, and how can that be so important as to justify his top billing in the infobox ("Single by James Newton Howard")? Johnson487682 (talk) 14:27, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Because he is credited as the performer on the album. Here is its iTunes listing. Elizium23 (talk) 17:22, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
I apologize for not being clear.  I think you are telling me that he is listed as the performer in Wikipedia because he is listed as the performer in iTunes (and other reference material cited by Wikipedia).  However, that's not what I was trying to ask.  I'm not challenging the correctness of the excellent material you placed in this Wikipedia article, but rather I'm wondering why the music industry does this.  He neither wrote a note of this song, played a note of it, wrote a word of these lyrics, nor sang a syllable of them, so why does he deserve top billing? Johnson487682 (talk) 16:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
This talk page is not a general forum for discussion of the topic. It is for discussing improvements to the article. Elizium23 (talk) 18:17, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
It would improve the article if it told us exactly what Mr. Howard had to do with anything.  As it is, it sounds like confusion. 50.180.19.238 (talk) 03:36, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
At this stage the article is contradictory, the text say that the music was written by Fraites & Schultz and the lyrics by Collins, yet the infobox lists Howard among the writer(s). AadaamS (talk) 15:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

@SNUGGUMS: A radio edit/remix was released to mainstream radio, and this information was in OZODOR's reference when they first posted it (unfortunately, it wasn't archived). It is mentioned here, but I don't know if that is a good enough source. --Random86 (talk) 07:28, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Not really- it is based off of a Lorde fan's word from Twitter, and I don't know how reliable The Morning Bulletin is. It is OZODOR's burden to support claims with reliable sources, and failed to do so with that link. "Failed" archives are moot when no source is even provided. Snuggums (talk / edits) 07:32, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Well, what about Fuse?: 1 OZODOR (Talk to me!) 07:37, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
It says here at Billboard.com that the label was in fact launching the song to all radio formats (but I happened to only find it being released to mainstream radio): Read here OZODOR (Talk to me!) 07:43, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Better, though I should mention that neither of those sources explicitly gives a release date. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:27, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi @Holiday56:, doesn't the mentions of multiple Billboard charts fall under WP:CHARTMATH? I'm by no means a chart expert, pls clarify your interpretation of the guideline and how it applies/does not apply to the extra charts added. AadaamS (talk) 08:25, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Look further down that article (WP:USCHARTS). Hot 100 Airplay is a specific component to the Hot 100 itself and these specific format charts (Adult/Mainstream Top 40) aren't. Holiday56 (talk) 05:06, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Hanging Tree (The Hunger Games song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: MikeOwen (talk · contribs) 21:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)


### Lead and infobox
It summarizes the article well, I like it.


### Background and release
The source used after ""The Hanging Tree" is composed in the key of A minor with a "moderately, somewhat freely" tempo of 88 beats per minute. Lawrence's vocals span a range of E3 to A5 and its chord progression follows a basic sequence of A5–Am–Asus–F/A." doesn't really back up this statement. Please use another one, maybe from Musicnotes.com.
Just a small thing, but remove the space between to semi colon and the source at ""The Hanging Tree" was released as part of the film's score soundtrack on 24 November 2014;  it is accompanied..."


### Composition and use in book
Also great, but add a source at the end of " Peeta Mellark, Katniss's love interest, associates "The Hanging Tree" with her father; he heard him sing the song once when he traded goods at his parent's bakery." or re-use one.


### Reception and promotion
Great, but clarify when Newton Howard was in tears. Use a second source if necessary.
I don't think you need to wikilink Newton Howard a second time.


### Track listing
Fine.


### Personnel
Could you use a better source than AllMusic? I found it a bit confusing, because it didn't say for which song all the credits were. Maybe use the album's liner notes.


### Charts
Fine.


### Release history
Fine.


### Final comments
This article reads well, congrats. Apart from what I've pointed out, the sources are fine too. Once all the issues have been addressed, I will be delighted to pass it. Have a great week-end. MikeOwen discuss  21:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

@MikeOwen: I took care of all your suggestions but I am confused on the bit about the source used for the song's arrangements. You mention that it does not back up the previous statement. How so? If you are referring to the arrangement itself, the source I used was actually from Musicnotes.com. Just want a clarification on that part. Thank you for reviewing this article! De88 (talk) 22:47, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
@De88: Oh sorry, my bad. Everything seems fine, I will  Pass this.. Have a great weekend! MikeOwen discuss  22:55, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

hi, what about tiktok meme? it made hype for this song Droppank (talk) 04:11, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Advice needed: I have found via a Songfile search that Jeremiah Fraites is NOT actually a co-writer of the song. If you go to BMI at https://repertoire.bmi.com/ and enter title "The Hanging Tree" and performer "Jennifer Lawrence" and search in "Songview" the song comes up. Click "Expand" and you see the songwriters listed are Suzanne Collins, James Newton Howard, and Wesley Keith Schultz. But since this is not a direct link, how would I cite making this edit? (The correction would also need to be made on the Jeremiah Fraites and Lumineers Wikipedia pages.) PSPazW (talk) 13:24, 17 September 2025 (UTC)