# Talk:The Great Wave off Kanagawa

Dutch landscape paintings have heavily influenced Hokusai works in the early 19th century. The great wave of Kanagawa, despite being considered as the primary representation of Japanese art for the general public, must be seen as an hybrid of Japanese and European artistic ideas. The fact is that the deep European perspective was unknown for Japanese artists, and not used before Hokusai, making the great wave the less Japanese of all Japanese masterpieces. Without the Dutch influence, Japanese art from the early 19th century to present would have been very different from what we know today (including manga).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:6B8E:EE00:10F7:8322:5F3E:4BD4 (talk) 10:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC) 

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Under the Wave at Kanawaga. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 1#Under the Wave at Kanawaga until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Pokechu22 (talk) 05:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

A few years ago, an article pointed out that Japanese art visually reads right to left, as with writing, while Western art reads left to right. Thus for a Western viewer to "see" what Japanese people and the artist wished to show, it makes sense to look at the image flipped. When this is done, the wave is much more threatening, the mountain more prominent, and crucially, the boats are easy to spot as about to be swamped (moving left to right, into the wave, rather that away from it). In short, it is a much more dramatic image, no longer just beautiful. I'll see if I can find the article, meantime see what I mean here:  Jim Killock (talk) 05:11, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
@JimKillock: This is done in the current article as well. See The Great Wave off Kanagawa#Reading direction and the image accompanying it. — Golden call me maybe? 08:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! I missed that :) Jim Killock (talk) 11:49, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I have tried to find a better copy for the lead image. What do you think of   Thanks, Yann (talk) 20:53, 6 October 2024 (UTC)