# Talk:Violent Crimes (song)

To anyone who has changed/is thinking of changing the introduction to this section to saying "mixed reviews" from "widely negative reviews", please provide sources to show that the song received better than negative reviews. I have chosen to enter this on the talk page because users have edited the introduction twice. --Kyle Peake (talk) 15:08, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Update: Over a year later and there has been enough reviews found to change the section introduction to "mixed to negative" as has been done properly, though changing it to "mixed" or "generally negative" would be incorrect currently. --Kyle Peake (talk) 12:20, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

The song is one of the most praised songs from the album. Any reviews saying that it doesn't understand how women see the world are insanely ignorant of the song's purpose. How women see the world is irrelevant to the song since it's about Kanye as a father having irrational fears as a parent. I don't think we should draw attention to these types of reviews as they easily fail to reflect the actual world reception of the song.
--JohnStartop (talk) 15:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

JohnStartop would you care to link to any examples? Kyle Peake (talk) 16:29, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Nope. But I can dispute the validity of the reviews cited. The reviews criticize his view of women, but the song isn't even about that. It's blatantly about his irrational fears as a father, so reviewing his portrayal of women is irrelevant. JohnStartop (talk) 02:36, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Thanks for your work on this article. I suggest requesting a review from the Guild of Copy Editors, not because I see anything specifically concerning, but as a general review going into the Good article nomination. I usually submit GOCE requests before nominating an article for Good status. Doesn't hurt! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:27, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Another Believer Do I need to renominate the article after doing that? Also I guess you don't see any noticeable issues then...? Kyle Peake (talk) 15:30, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Kyle Peake, You can request a copy edit and nominate the article for Good status at the same time. Submitting a request here is quick and easy, and does not impact the Good article nomination. GOCE is simply a place to request a copy edit by a volunteer. :) Still reviewing the article off and on, but I have not identified any major concerns yet. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:33, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I'd submit the request myself, but I already have two posted at GOCE, which is the limit at any given time. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:21, 31 March 2019 (UTC)