# Talk:Vanya and Sonia and Masha and Spike

At first glance, this looks like a GA contender. But are you planning to fix the plot section in the next few days? Otherwise, it's an auto-fail.  --  Zanimum (talk) 21:46, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 21:39, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Nominator: TonyTheTiger(T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD)
Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 21:39, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

1: Well-written

a. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors: 
b. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists: 

2: Verifiable with no original research

a. Has an appropriate reference section:  Yes
b. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:  good

c. No original research:   Done

3: Broad in its coverage

4: Neutral

5: Stable: No edit wars, etc: 
6: Images  Done (Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license)

As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:

The lead should be rewritten.
Fix short paragraphs throughout.
I think this is resolved.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:28, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Fix lengthy list of external links. Links to Internet Broadway Database and Playbill already appear in the references.
Although both are usesd as references, they remain general resources of value to the reader. 6 ELs is not really excessive in many cases such as this.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:56, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
"Sexy Killer" (no inline citation)
The plot is not suppose to have citations.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:47, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
"The Evil Queen as portrayed by Maggie Smith on her way to the Oscars." (no inline citation)
The plot is not suppose to have citations. (Note that this was contributed by these edits: [1] and [2]).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:44, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
"thanked his mother as he recalled writing his first play in second grade in 1958."[5] (Check on source 5, unsuccessful, not in source 5)
See "“I can’t say I wasn’t practicing in front of the shower curtain for a couple days for this speech,”she said, going on to thank her mother for introducing her to Broadway cast recordings as a child" in second page of article.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:52, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
"Even if you’ve never read a word of Chekhov, you’re likely to find plenty to make you laugh: Mr. Hyde Pierce’s skillfully low-key comic discomfort; Ms. Nielsen’s segues from manic eruption into glazed smiling stupor; Ms. Weaver’s game sendup of every self-loving, self-doubting movie queen there ever was."[6] ... "blander and thinner" ... "lost souls" ... [6] (Check on source 6, inaccessible, Http/1.1 Service Unavailable, the link that worked for me is http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/theater/reviews/vanya-and-sonia-and-masha-and-spike-at-lincoln-center.html, unsuccessful, not in source 6)
Again, see page 2.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:55, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
"My play is not a Chekhov parody...I take Chekhov scenes and characters and put them into a blender."[19] (Check on source 19, unsuccessful, not in source 19)
Link is working for me.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:36, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
"Cassandra, who's a cleaning woman and soothsayer, is like the Greek-tragedy Cassandra. In some ways, she's like the nanny in Vanya, but she doesn't reflect Chekhov as much."[19] (Check on source 19, unsuccessful, not in source 19)
Again, see second page of source.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:43, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
"overindulgent, self-centered and unaware she’s on the decline" ... [27] (Check on source 27, inaccessible, Page Not Found, Google results do attribute this quote to Mark Kennedy of The Washington Post, fix this link or attribute this quote to some RS)
Ref swapped.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:49, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

This article is a promising GA nominee. I'm happy to see your work here. I'm putting the article on hold. All the best! --Seabuckthorn ♥ 23:13, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I am going to need another week for this one.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:30, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I've reverted my previous edit and closure as per discussion in the GA forum. However, I'd like to resign from this review. I apologize for the inconvenience caused. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 06:00, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Now that this has been reverted I again request 7 days to attend to these issues. Then any reviewer can assess the status of the article however he or she sees fit.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:57, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
I have now responded to the prior reviewer's concerns. I welcome a new reviewer and will do my best to respond to his/her concerns.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:56, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Vanya and Sonia and Masha and Spike/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Bobamnertiopsis (talk · contribs) 12:56, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I'll take this one. It's been sitting in purgatory for far too long. I'll try to complete my review today. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 12:56, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

You've done an artful job of brining this article up to GA-status and indulging my suggestions! I'm happy to  Pass. Congrats and keep up the good work! Best, BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 23:14, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
The first sentence in the PLOT section is convoluted as it sits (12/20/14) 
"Middle-aged siblings Vanya and Sonia, named after characters in Chekhov's plays by their parents (both of whom were professors active in community theatre), live in the family home in Bucks County, Pennsylvania."

As time has gone on, this article has been steadily gaining mentions of further productions at regional theaters and smaller theaters across the US. I don't know if there's a guideline about which of these to include and which not to, and I know a number of other theater articles also suffer from an overabundance of performance mentions, plus presumably this show will continue to be produced elsewhere nationally...does anyone have thoughts regarding the inclusion of these post-Broadway productions? BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 15:49, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't know if that list is meant to be all inclusive or not, but there is no mention of one of the earliest productions outside of NYC and LA, at the Goodman Theatre in Chicago: https://www.goodmantheatre.org/press-room/2014-2015-season/vanya-sonia-masha--spike/ 
2603:8001:2A00:7428:295A:DDE5:6BF6:166D (talk) 02:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

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