# Talk:Thriller (song)


### Thriller (song)
I heard this song was covered by Maxdown in The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! NoahAlexanderJohnson101 (talk) 03:07, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

In the "Personnel" section, the source is improperly cited. Please replace with this:
Allard, François, and Lecocq, Richard. Michael Jackson: All the Songs: The Story Behind Every Track. United Kingdom, Octopus, 2018. 138.9.182.141 (talk) 10:07, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

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I modified the “recording” section because it is more in accordance with how colloquially and popularly know certain sounds of the song. e.g. Shooting Star -> Falling Star.
Additionally, I added missing information where the recording of the howls is mentioned, since only “half” of Bruce Swedien’s speech is taken as a reference, where he mentions that Michael made the howls, although it includes material from sound libraries.
After looking for the origin of the sound, and with the help of the official multitracks, I tracked the sound to “The International Sound Effects Library” (1983), where this file appears for the first time with the name “Coyote Howls and Barks, Animal”. Although there are variants of this sound in different pitch and speed in later libraries such as “SoundStorm”, “SoundDogs”, “Wild World of Animals”, etc., the oldest origin is from the 1983 library, where vinyls were marketed with the sample before the digital version in 1999.
I put as a reference to the wiki, because there’s the most complete information of this sfx, and within that page, there are links to all the variants of the complete and cpped audio, although there is not yet a specialized article that visually proves the coincidence. Even so, the existing reference to Swedien’s interview served as a sufficient source to add information to the page, in addition to the fact that the Wikipedia external links section explicitly mentions avoiding citing open wikis “[...] except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors.” SAMUK MIXES (talk) 01:40, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

WP:FANDOM is not a reliable source. Anyone can edit it at any moment. (CC) Tbhotch™ 02:01, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
where can I find a good source for this information then? This information is real, even if that wiki doesn’t work as a source SAMUK MIXES (talk) 03:15, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
You can refer to WP:Reliable sources for further information on what constitutes such sources (including webpages, newspapers, books, magazines). As a general rule, if something is not covered by a secondary reliable source (even if true), it is unrequired to be published. (CC) Tbhotch™ 03:34, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
I can just put the fandom content template:
{{Fandom content
|sitename=soundeffects
|official sitename=fandom
|article=Sound Ideas, COYOTE - HOWLS AND BARKS, ANIMAL
|datecopied=02 august 2025
|date=August 2025
}} SAMUK MIXES (talk) 03:50, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
and also, what about the other changes I made? SAMUK MIXES (talk) 03:51, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
No, because you would still be citing Fandom. That template has attribution purposes when you copy their text verbatim and incorporated to Wikipedia.
Other changes made need to be attributed to a source. (CC) Tbhotch™ 22:58, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
I don't need to cite any sources, as these are changes in spelling and wording. SAMUK MIXES (talk) 23:16, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
Then you can perform the changes. (CC) Tbhotch™ 23:30, 3 August 2025 (UTC)