# Talk:Uwa (Ogiso)

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Nominator: Vanderwaalforces (talk · contribs) 22:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Borsoka (talk · contribs) 13:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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Image review

Could you add at least one picture and one map? Borsoka (talk) 13:48, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
@Borsoka I could not find anything relevant. Although, I am currently working on licensing some images that could be relevant to articles about the Ogisos of Igodomigodo generally. So, maybe by then I would have images relevant to this ruler and add them. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:54, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
Source review

Academic sources are cited. Borsoka (talk) 13:48, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
References 2 and 18 checked.
Reference 1: ...serves in Benin City as a government advisor in Nigeria. Rephrase to avoid close paraphrasing.
Could you quote the texts from the cite book verifying the following statements here on the review page?
Ovio, who held the title of Esuekhen ("Trader's guard"), sought greater political power and had substantial support among the Senior Nobles, who had selected the ogisos before the system of hereditary monarchy was introduced.
The expulsion of Ovio in 1090 reinforced the primogeniture succession law and led to migrations, with Ovio and his followers settling in Obior, a settlement between Umunede and Ubuluku in present-day Delta State, influencing several Igbo-speaking communities.
He also expanded religious festivals and palace ceremonies. Borsoka (talk) 02:29, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
@Borsoka Fixed the Ref 1 problem. Below are quotes from the pages;
One of the most prominent of the noblemen of the time was Ehima of Okhorho, popularly nicknamed Ovio, apparently because of his arrogance and disdainful look on people. In full form the name was 'Ovioro omwa' or onewho disdains people. Ovio was a member of the Royal Council, selected from Okhorho, his home village. Though he was not the oldest Senior Noble and so would not by that arrangement have been the next person to claim the crown, he was the most determined in the group to fight for it. … skipped a paragraph… Ovio’s background was not enviable. He started his early life in a hunter's family, and entered public life under Ogiso Oriagba as one of the Traders' Guards (Esuekhen) along distant trade routes. Trader' Guards usually had the advantage of enriching themselves with the selection of goods' from the women traders. Uwa's mother had had her own experience with Ovio during her son's pre-coronation years and had fed the young prince with stories about his extortionate demands on tradeswomen. By the time Ovio…
page 58
…became a member of the Royal Council during the reign of Ogiso Odoligie, he had become very wealthy, and was noticeably the richest member of the council. But for his scomful manners what he was in wealth would not have been hurtful to the king.
Prior to Ovio's departure from Owa-Agbon (Agbor) he appointed one of his followers to rule over the place and take care of the young son born to him there. He was intent on establishing a kingdom for himself, which would extend from the eastern boundary of Benin kingdom. As he passed the villages on the way which he settled as Enogie he appointed one or the other of his lieutenants to take over from him. Finally he pitched his camp at a place between Umunede and Ubuluku, and settled there. The place became known as Obio or Obior (from Ovio).
Uwa's strong taste for the mystic led to a renewed royal emphasis on festivals and ceremonies, as well as visits to Uhe, in the spirit with which Ogiso Oriagba had pursued them.
Vanderwaalforces (talk) 03:46, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
Comments

I would introduce the title Ogiso as "king" in the first sentence.
Is the Benin Kingdom a present-day state?
The linked article says that Benin Kingdom was dissolved more than a century ago.
The Kingdom of Benin is still a state inside the Nigerian state of Edo till date. Although, there was Benin Expedition of 1897, but the kingdom wasn't dissolved. FWIW, If it was, then I'm not sure we'd be having a "current" Oba (current name of ruler) as Ewuare II. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
My concern is that the link is not helpful, because according to the linked article the kingdom does not exist anymore. Perhaps you could say refer to Edo State in Nigeria instead of the Benin Kingdom. You can mention in the last section that his descendants (?) still rule a tribal kingdom in Nigeria. Borsoka (talk) 05:43, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
When was he born?
..Senior Nobles... Is this a legally or customarily distinguished group? If yes, explain it, if not, do not capitalise it.
...who are the kingmakers What does it mean? We are previously informed that Igodomigodo had become a hereditary kingdom by the time of Uwa's ascension. (Perhaps, "...who had the right to elect/select the king before the system of hereditary monarch was introduced"?)
done, that explains it better, thanks!. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Introduce Obio as a city/region/country...
Link "Igbo-speaking".
Do we have a specific wikilink to the guild system in Benin?
Could you introduce this system with a sentence?
done. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Introduce Oba Oguola.
Explain Erinmwidu with two or three words. Borsoka (talk) 14:00, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
...the ancestors of the land I do not understand. (Perhaps, "ancestors"/"respected ancestors"/"royal ancestors"/...?)
@Borsoka All fixed. Yes, per Kingdom of Benin, it is. His birth date wasn't recorded. There's currently no article on the guild system in Benin. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
...Uwa spent much of his youth away from the royal court Why?
explained. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Could you write one or two sentences about the features and significance of trading and traders in the kingdom?
that looks like a topic on its own. To an extent, I have mentioned how Uwa influenced trading and traders during his reign in the "Reign and political strategies" section, I'm not sure about writing about features and significance of trading and traders in the kingdom generally as I don't know how or what to write that would relate to Uwa. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Borsoka (talk) 03:43, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

@Borsoka Thanks! Replied, fixed all. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
...Obio or Obior.. Are these two settlements or the alternative names of the same settlement? If the latter is true, delete one of them. Could you introduce it/them as a town/village/settlement?
He continued royal visits to Uhe (Ife)... Some explanation about their relevance? Why do we need the name in brackets? A link?
...migrations affecting present-day Delta and Anambra Delta and Anamra are not mentioned in the main text. I need an adjective before "migrations" (further/mass/extensive/...?). I would say "migrations to" or "migrations towards".
...who prioritised military campaigns,.. Why not past perfect?
...died in 1095 and... Delete. Borsoka (talk) 06:00, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
@Borsoka All done, thank you! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:32, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
There are two pending issues (Benin Kingdom and the relevance/meaning/importance of royal visits to Uhe). As soon as these are addressed, I will complete the source review. Borsoka (talk) 03:14, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

@Borsoka Done! I added an efn to explain the status of Benin Kingdom, and fixed the other too. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:00, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for this interesting article. I hope you can illustrate it with pictures and a map and you will request for a peer review to achieve a FA. Borsoka (talk) 04:01, 17 February 2025 (UTC)