# Talk:People Watching (Conan Gray song)

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Nominator: TheDoctorWho (talk · contribs) 04:36, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 09:12, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar): 

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section): 

b. (citations to reliable sources): 

c. (OR): 

d. (copyvio and plagiarism): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects): 

b. (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): 

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/fail: 

(Criteria marked  are unassessed)
I will run through this one today! --K. Peake 09:12, 14 February 2025 (UTC)


### Infobox and lead
Remove the venue parameter from the infobox since this is not correct usage
Mention in the opening sentence instead that it is "from her second studio album, Superache (2022)"
"as a single from the album" should read the release sentence and swap this with the songwriting sentence for correct order
"The single was written by" → "The song was written by"
""People Watching" is an indie pop song that is about the similarly named activity of" → "it is an indie pop song that is about the activity of" as the only difference in name is literally a dash
I would say start a new paragraph at the reviews part, also make this one sentence on its own talking about what critics praised
The charts positions and certification should be a sentence after reception, placing the positions before the certification for suitable order
Wikilink music video
Add a final sentence about The Today Show performance


### Background and release
[2] does not mention a collaboration on Kid Krow with Dan Nigro; this should be sourced since it is important background information
"he released two singles:" → "Gray released two singles:"


### Composition and lyrics
Audio sample looks good!
Indie pop is not sourced as a genre since [8] only directly sources pop and sidebar from [9] is not considered reliable
Remove repeat wikilink on Dan Nigro
"but I wanna feel all" → "I wanna feel all" per the source, where the last two clauses of the quote are not sourced neither
Pipe romantic relationships to Romance (love) and start a new para at this sentence
The source does not cite "Crush Culture" as one of multiple songs where these relationships were discussed, just one song so re-word accordingly please
[15] does not say the guitar builds
Shouldn't there be a comma before "followed by"?


### Critical reception
Retitle to Reception and write the commercial info out here as a second para
"and notes Gray's ability" → "and noted Gray's ability"
I have my doubts about Ones to Watch per WP:SELFPUB
"describes the single as "vulnerable" mentioning" → "describes the song as "vulnerable" and mentioned"
Any more reviews possible to be added?


### Charts
See MOS:TABLECAPTION


### Certifications
See MOS:TABLECAPTION


### Credits and personnel
For the start of a new order, make this the section directly before charts
Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel


### Music video
Make this the section directly after Reception
Retitle to Music video and promotion, merging with the following section
Wikilink music video
"was released on the day after the track." → "was shared on the day after its release." to be less wordy
Are you sure the plural should not be used instead of "allowing a coffee mug" since [29] mentions coffee cups falling around him?
"as the other employees" should be a new sentence to avoid a run-on


### Live performances and other use
Place this as the second para of the above section
"performed "People Watching" along with" → "performed "People Watching", along with"


### References
Copyvio score looks strong at 18.0%!!!
Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 2, 9, 14, 15, 29 and 32
Per WP:RSP, is ref 5 reliable since it is owned by Wordpess?
Cite Amazon as publisher instead on ref 7
Cite NPR Music as publisher instead on ref 8
Are you sure refs 10 and 19 do not violate WP:SELFPUB?
Cite WKNC-FM as publisher and fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 16
Remove or replace refs 17 and 34 per WP:RSSM
tidal → Tidal on ref 26
Pipe UDiscoverMusic to Universal Music Group on ref 27
Wouldn't it make more sense to remove Apple Music from ref 30's title and cite it as via instead?
Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 36


### External links
Good


### Final comments and verdict
 On hold until all of the issues are fixed; good luck with this especially the sources! --K. Peake 11:37, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: I think I've fixed everything, notes on the few things I didn't:
I didn't change the two piped links you mentioned per WP:NOTBROKEN
Ones to Watch is owned by Live Nation, not sure how that would be self-published unless I'm missing something?
RSSM says that Reputable student media outlets, such as The Harvard Crimson, are considered generally reliable sources for news on their school and local community. They can sometimes be considered reliable on other topics, although professional sources are typically preferred when available (bold emphasis mine, of course)
Ref 17 (Study Breaks Magazine) is produced by the University of Texas at Austin, it has been used in other GA's as well as other articles so I assume use should be okay here as well. Gray also lived in Georgetown, Texas (a suburb of Austin), which could somewhat the local community requirement.
I don't see how 34 ([[The Lantern), a publication of Ohio State University would be any different from the latter standard (this source has also been used in FA's and [[1]] as well as articles outside of the local scope.
I did want to ask for additional clarification on what you were looking for when you said to add commercial info out here as a second para? Thanks for the review! TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:42, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
@TheDoctorWho: I meant you need to write out the positions and certifications in prose there since everything in the lead should be written out, while there are still MOS:QWQ issues with some refs using words surrounded by speech marks. --K. Peake 09:36, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: I added prose about cets and char positions to the relevant section. The only three people mentioned in the lead are Gray, Michaels, and Nigro, those people are already mentioned in the "Composition and lyrics section". I only found one addition QWQ issue, but that has now been addressed. TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:52, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
There is still a QWQ issue with ref 20 using "People Watching", while you need to add captions to the charts and certifications tables please. K. Peake 21:08, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: Fixed ref 20. Both tables already have captions, they're hidden using {{sronly}}, as noted in the template instructions, it's used when a table is placed immediately below a heading, where the heading is effectively identical to the table's caption. This template may be used to hide the caption from a sighted reader (as it would be duplicative), while allowing a screen reader to hear the caption TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:01, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
 Pass now, great work here and I did some copy editing to get this over the finish line! --K. Peake 08:17, 17 February 2025 (UTC)