# Talk:Wrecking Ball (Miley Cyrus song)

Requesting removal of "it follows the chord progression Dm–F–C–Gm" under the composition heading. It's unnecessary and misleading, giving the impression that those four chords loop in that order throughout the entire song, when they don't. It may even be incorrect, while the sheet music arrangement cited denotes an F, the piano score is missing the root, while the track itself has an audible E making it unambiguously Am. Furoar (talk) 12:07, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 Not done You are providing original research. Adabow (talk) 19:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Edit Request:
David K. Kim, p/k/a Kiyanu Kim, is one of the co-authors of the song "Wrecking Ball," recorded by Miley Cyrus.  His name should be included as one of the writers.  Although he was not originally given credit, he recently entered into a settlement and co-publishing agreement with MoZella and EMI which legally establish his status as co-author and his rights in the song.  Mr. Kim has edited the article appropriately.Drumtoad59 (talk) 16:23, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

I think Synthpop isn't a good genre and if it must stay should be supplied with a source --92.17.8.227 (talk) 21:50, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for coming here to discuss it. The composition section says ""Wrecking Ball" is a synthpop ballad", and cites this as a reference. Considering that On the Red Carpet is an entertainment/celebrity gossip site and not a music critic one, I don't think it is appropriate to cite it as a source for genre. I'll remove it now. Adabow (talk) 00:19, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

The release date is incorrect. That release was only for promotional release. It was released as a single  in September 13.

The second cover looks like fan art. While the Hung Medien websites are reliable for chart data, they are less reliable for cover art and release info. A search on the RCA site only finds the first cover. Is there a more reliable source for the second cover? Adabow (talk) 22:29, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I saw the cover and I searched for similar images on Google: such search pointed to fan-made edits of the song and no official website reported it. I think it should be removed. prism △ 22:41, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Removed.--Launchballer 23:07, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

TinyEdit (talk) 00:04, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

The text says "The song was written by MoZella, Stephan Moccio, Sacha Skarbek, Lukasz Gottwald, and Henry Russell Walter" but in the infobox says that the only one man wrote the song was sacha skarbek.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.95.141.29 (talk) 01:28, 2 October 2015 (UTC) 

Someone has written to Wikimedia (OTRS) regarding the omission of the name of Kiyanu Kim in the list of writing credits. I responded that such an inclusion requires a reliable source. There provided to sources:

Songfile database
Songfacts
The first, when queried for “wrecking ball”, lists the writers:
LUKASZ GOTTWALD, SACHA SKARBEK, HENRY WALTER, STEPHAN RICHARD MOCCIO, MOZELLA, KIYANU KIM, MAUREEN MCDONALD
Unfortunately, there is more than one song with this name, and while there is an apparently unique HFA song code, W7045L, I don’t know how to connect that to this song. It may be helpful to note that the other names in this list of writers are also in the list in the article and not challenged.
The second source discusses the writing of the song.
I don’t know the industry well enough to know whether this is adequate support for the claim if it is the name should be added. --S Philbrick(Talk) 12:34, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
To confirm that the Harry Fox Agency's first songfile listing for "Wrecking Ball" is the Miley Cyrus version, there are several entries (gigwise, wikipedia ("Bangerz")) on the web that link these writers to the Miley Cyrus song explicitly.  Unfortunately, Kiyanu Kim was not given credit when the song was released.  That has now been rectified, which is why Harry Fox Agency (the world's leading mechanical rights licensing agency) has adjusted its database to include Mr. Kim as one of the writers.  Similarly, BMI (one of the world's leading performing rights licensing organizations) has adjusted its database to include Mr. Kim as one of the writers.  These are not only reliable sources, but they are the sources upon which all music publishers rely to pay royalties. Drumtoad59 (talk) 18:53, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Aren't all the credit on Bangerz booklet? --Cornerstonepicker (talk) 20:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
This matter has also been brought up at WPSongs, would be useful to keep the debate there. 123.136.107.11 (talk) 14:49, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
The credit to Kim would not be in the booklet if it was attributed retrospectively. As the BMI interview (referenced in the infobox) indicates he co-wrote the chorus of the song. Karst (talk) 08:33, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 Note:Suspected users have been listed on Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Kiyanu Kim. 183.171.180.234 (talk) 18:54, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

"Wrecking Ball"'s nine week gap between #1 sittings is listed in the article as being the largest gap in Billboard Hot 100 history.  This needs to be clarified. It is the longest gap for songs remaining on the chart through that gap period, but is not even close for overall longest gap. That was Chubby Checker's "The Twist" That was #1 the week of 9/19/60, later dropped off the chart, but then returned to #1 for two weeks beginning 1/13/62. The gap is 476 days!!
Reference: The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits, 7th Edition, Joel Whitburn (2000).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by H2izcool (talk • contribs) 05:10, 14 November 2016 (UTC) 

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