# Talk:Pachirisu

Hi again, I have new pics of the three new Pokemon:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/GoldMetalSonic/Cherimu.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/GoldMetalSonic/Pachirisu.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/GoldMetalSonic/Dorapion.jpg
Please replace the current pics with these because the owner of the current pics requests their removal please!
These new pics came from www.pokemonelite2000.com, please credit this site please!!!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.197.220.129 (talk) 11:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

What is this? Advertising your favourite site by giving them source for images? Pokebeach.com had the first cleaned-up Sugimori images up, why are we messing around? --ArrEmmDee 18:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Whoever-you-are-who-posted-first, are you the owner of those pics? If not, the owner should request deletetion himself/herself. --Libertyernie2 21:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

The first sentence of the article is:
The Pachirisu (パチリス) is one of the 493 fictional species of Pokémon creatures from the multi-billion-dollar Pokémon media franchise – a collection of video games, anime, manga, books, trading cards and other media, created by Satoshi Tajiri.
Is there any reason in the style guide for having "the" before Pachirisu's name? This does not seem right. --Libertyernie2 22:37, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Pachirisu is the name of species. It's like "The sheep is one of the...", you wouldn't burst in saying "Sheep is one of the...". Highway Batman! 22:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
But within the context of Pokémon, a species' name is never preceded by an article in reference to its kind. For instance, "MEGANIUM's breath has the power to revive dead grass and plants..." (Meganium's Fire Red Pokédex entry) --GregE 02:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
But that's referring to the breath of a single Pokémon. When we are talking an article we're referring to them 'ALL. Highway Batman! 10:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
In that case, it should say "The Pachirisu are"... or am I wrong?--Libertyernie2 16:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
The species name isn't preceded by "the" in any of the current 386 articles on Pokémon. So either we remove "the" from this and the other new articles, or add it to the old ones. --Anonymous —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.183.88.33 (talk • contribs) .
It's used in scores of them. Highway Batman! 12:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
(re-indent) Please see [1] and discuss there. "Bulbasaur are" (or whatever other Pokémon) sounds good to me, flows better and is more consistent with the rest of the article. —Celestianpower háblame 17:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
It isn't an actual animal. That's why we say "The sheep..." instead of "Sheep...". In the animé's Pokédex, not one Pokémon has ever had the word "the" placed before the species name. Even when one of the characters talks about a species of Pokémon, they never say "The Bellossom are Pokémon that are able to summon the sun during cloudy days." or something along the lines of that. They instead say "Bellossom are Pokémon that are blah-blah...". In all the games, Red/Blue/Yellow to Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, not once have I ever seen "the" before the species name. The only place it is found in a Pokédex entry is the species a Pokémon is. For example: "Meowth, the Scratch Cat Pokémon." I firmly believe that "the" is not supposed to be where it has been placed. It should be "Pachirisu... ", not "The Pachirisu...". --User:Floramage.
It's at are not the. And the Clefairy Pokédex entry reads:
On every night of a full moon, groups of this Pokémon come out to play. When dawn arrives, THE tired Clefairy return to their quiet mountain retreats and go to sleep nestled up against each other.
So the game does refer to Pokémon as plurals. Highway Return to Oz... 07:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
That's just because they used the adjective "tired" before the word "Clefairy".
Snubbul's Emerald Pokédex entry:
By baring its fangs and making a scary face, it sends smaller POKéMON scurrying in terror. THE SNUBBULL does seem a little sad at making its foes flee. 
I rest my case. -- PinkDeoxys 00:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Well well! It seems even the authorities who create Pokemon aren't fully consistent themselves. I'd say that deepens the issue further... Erik the Appreciator 20:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I think it was just an error. One use of "the" vs. a few thousand times it was excluded.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.66.138 (talk) 21:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
There's a very simple rule behind this: when referring to an actual Pokémon or group, use an article. When referring to the species in general, don't. You'll see that this rule is always followed in the game's flavour text, and we should keep to this convention for the sake of consistency.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by GregE (talk • contribs) 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC).
Anyone notice how you just started an argument about one of the most common words in the english language? Just wanted to point that out.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.43.227.0 (talk) 02:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Since serebii says this guy is #55 in the shinou dex, I basically tried to copy off of the Mukkuru infobox, since it's number 396 national and #10 shinou. This would make pachirisu 441 national, but it's not showing in the infobox. Can someone help me? Toastypk 05:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually never mind, I fixed it. Toastypk 05:58, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
This number is pure speculation and is likely to be wrong because Pokemon from previous generations may be preceding it in the Shinou dex, thus the logic that the number of a new Pokemon in the National dex is its number in the Shinou dex + the sum of Pokemon from previous generations is extremely flawed. I'm removing it as Wikipedia is not the place for speculation. --Lividore 18:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Then wouldn't that be the same deal for Mukkuru? Unless it says that it's explicitly number 396 somewhere. Toastypk 21:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
That never applies for the few evolution lines after the Starter Pokémon (#1-#9). Double Dash 15:56, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
The Sinnoh dex has pre-gen 4 Pokémon before Pachirisu, making its Pokédex number 417 not 441. Pikachu125 (talk) 16:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

i heard that pachirisu is an optional evolution of pikachu obtained by leveling it up to lv.30 and using something called pa's crown gem. is this right?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.184.246.240 (talk) 20:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Look up in the sky. That pink thing? It's a pig. Double Dash (Talk to me) 21:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
*titters to self* Highway Grammar Enforcer! 23:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Just though I'd mention that the Buoysel article links to this one claiming that its name is Squiright. Is there any reason to treat this as any more likely than the "Chimeglebell" fiasco at Rishan? - NP Chilla 21:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I haven't the foggiest where that name came from... it was just done by an anonymous user, but I've changed it back now. - Sarranduin (Talk)
Another anon changed the name to "Pachir".  I just changed it back.  -Jeske (Complaints Dept.) 21:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't Richie be a main character? He even stars in his own episodes.Mavrickindigo 16:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

He doesn't travel with Ash, though. Richie's not a main character, but a rival.- Floramage! 16:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Um, what about Ash? >_> Totema1 01:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
The article (at least a past revion) explicitly states the first time a "main character other than Ash" had an electric-type. -Jeske (v^_^v) 04:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

For the aforementioned reason (only time a main protagonist other than Ash obtains an electric Pokémon. Similar to Pichu Pikachu125 (talk) 16:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Pachirisu/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 23:12, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: CooperCool23 (talk · contribs) 16:02, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Will review this at a later date.

It is reasonably well written. 
a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. 
a (reference section):  b (inline citations to reliable sources):  c (No original research):  d (copyvio and plagiarism): 

It is broad in its coverage. 
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy. 
Fair representation without bias:

It is stable. 
No edit wars, etc.:

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate. 
a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 


### Overall Review
### Prose Check
#### Lead
• "First introduced in the video games Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, it has since appeared in multiple games, including Pokemon GO and the Pokemon Trading Card Game." → "First introduced in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, it has appeared in multiple games, including Pokemon GO and the Pokemon Trading Card Game." Partially Done


#### Conception and Development
• Doesn't seem like their is any issues with grammar in this segment


#### Appearances
• "Pachirisu first appeared in the video games Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, where it could be captured in the wild by players" → "Pachirisu first appeared in the 2006 games Pokemon Diamond and Pearl. In these games, it could be captured in the wild by players" Done


#### Critical Reception
• "Pachirisu came into prominence due to its an unexpected usage at the Pokemon World Championships in 2014" → Remove the unnecessary "an".
•"Pachirisu was essential to the victory of the tournament's winner, Park se-jun, who built around being able to take a lot of attacks from its oppoenents, as well as to be able to redirect powerful attacks towards it." → Who's the "it" at the end of the sentence referring to? If it's the opponents then replace it with "them".
•"He later elaborated that he chose Pachirisu to serve as a support to his Gyarados, as Pachirisu's unique traits partnered well with Gyarados." → Replace the second "Gyarados" with "them"


### Source Spot Check and Plagiarism Check
Spot checked the sources; no issues arose


### Final Verdict
@Pokelego999: It seems that there are some things that might need to be changed but it seems that, for the most part, it passes. So Conglaturation!!! You have completed a great article, and may All your base belong to you for many more articles to come. (Sorry it took so long for me to properly get to ending my review!) COOPER COOL 23 user page 20:20, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

@CooperCool23: I am extremely confused here. The broadness criterion states that the topic only needs to address the main topic without going off topic, and that it needs to topic's main aspects. The article at present does both of these things, and the criteria themselves do not state that anything along your rationale is a pass or fail criteria. The subject is notable as a result of this event, so lots of coverage of it in the context of the event is expected and reasonable.
Additionally, you are asking for information on the article subject that physically doesn't exist. I've researched this extensively with my co-nom, and there's no creation info on Pachirisu in particular, hence why the section primarily focuses on addressing the characteristics of the species and familiarizing the species in the wider context of the series. Articles with similar sections have passed GAN in the past, such as Sprigatito, Floragato, and Meowscarada, Fuecoco, Mawile, Mimikyu, and Galarian Corsola, among others, with no issue. Lacking certain information does not deny an article the ability to be a GAN; what matters is that all relevant information of the subject that exists is present within the article.
I do believe this failure should be reconsidered within the bounds of the GA criteria, since right now I believe this is meeting all of the major criteria and is being unfairly assessed against beliefs not present in the GAN criteria. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 20:22, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
@Pokelego999: Oh, whoops. For the record, I haven't really read some of the Wikipedia guidelines all too extensively yet, so when I saw the mentions of the tournament being the only thing in that one section my immediate response was to say that it was going way off the rails for no particular reason (it should also be noted that I haven't seen most of the articles on Pokemon species, so that is why I thought you and your co-writer were doing an uh oh, but you two clearly understand the subjects very well and I will not shame you on that).
I apologize for unfairly failing the article before based off my misconceptions and I will give the article a pass as a GA article. I will try to remember that lesson with information for the future. COOPER COOL 23 user page 20:43, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
While I appreciate the understanding on this matter, I think passing it now would be folly. There are various steps that need to be done before passing an article, including ensuring that it is factually accurate (and posting examples of sources you checked to ensure they were accurately cited) and more. I would recommend either attempting a more in-depth assessment or allowing another reviewer to examine the article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cukie Gherkin (talk • contribs) 21:41, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Pinging @CooperCool23 so they're aware in case they missed this Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 18:44, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
@Cukie Gherkin, I will try and get around to doing a more in-depth review of the articles, but it might take some time COOPER COOL 23 user page 19:17, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
@CooperCool23 any updates? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:56, 11 April 2025 (UTC)


### Tarlby
Not gonna go in-depth here. Just reading a few paragraphs for grammar and such.

First introduced in the video games Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, it has appeared in multiple games, including... ---> First introduced in the video games Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, it has appeared in future games, including...
It is considered the "Pikachu clone" The Pikachu clone or a Pikachu clone?
Pachirisu's name comes from the Japanese "pachipachi"... ---> Pachirisu's name comes from the Japanese words "pachipachi"...
..."pachipachi" and "risu," Comma goes outside of the quotation mark.
...stated that he knew people were expecting a Pokémon to fill Pachirisu's role... ---> ...stated that he knew people were expecting another Pokémon to fill Pachirisu's role...
Stopped at this point. Good luck. Tarlby (t) (c) 02:42, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

@Tarlby:
-Didn't implement the first comment because I felt the wording was a bit odd, but tried to compromise by slightly altering the wording to make it clear it's appeared in many after the initial debut, which I believe is what you were going for with this comment?
-It is specified as being the specific Pikachu clone introduced in this specific game within the article already.
Addressed the other comments. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 20:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. That all works. Tarlby (t) (c) 21:12, 4 April 2025 (UTC)