# Talk:Zhu Youdun

This review is transcluded from Talk:Zhu Youdun/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Min968 (talk · contribs) 17:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Borsoka (talk · contribs) 11:03, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct: 

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation: 

Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline: 

B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose): 

C. It contains no original research: 

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism: 

Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic: 

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style): 

Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each: 

Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute: 

Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content: 

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions: 

Overall:
Pass or Fail: 

Preliminary comments

I think the article needs at least two sections, and none of them could be named "Biography", for his biography is the article's subject per se.
The article needs at least one image or map. Borsoka (talk) 11:05, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
@Borsoka Done. Min968 (talk) 14:10, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
Source review

High-quality academic works are cited. Borsoka (talk) 08:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
References 2, 3, 12 and 13 checked. Borsoka (talk) 08:31, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Comments

... in Fengyang I would say he was born in Zhongdou, also mentioning that it was the capital, and now it is Fengyang).
A link to "Prince of Zhou"/"Zhou".
I am not sure it is the best link, but I cannot suggest an alternative.
Is not the use of the name Fengyang anachronistic in the article's context?
...or traveling to Fengyang without permission... I would delete it.
...Zhu Youdun took over the management of the princely household Is this sure? He was ten.
Do we know who was the actual head of the princely household during this period?
The current sources I have do not provide this information.
...Zhu Youdun was named his father's successor... By whom? Successor or heir?
In the spring (on the third day of the third month)... Do we need both time adverbs?
Both father and son... Name the son.
...in the civil war... This is not previously introduced. Is the civil war connected to Zhu Shu's arrest?
In exchange,... Rephrase.
...(李昌期)... Delete.
It is believed that... By whom?
Why is his posthumous name bolded in the main text?
Is the last paragraph necessary? Borsoka (talk) 08:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
@Borsoka Done. Min968 (talk) 11:03, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
(Lead): Prince Ding of Zhou... Ding is unverified in the main text.
(Lead): I would expand the lead with a sentence about his rule in Zhou, his punishement and return.
(Lead): The title of Idema (1985) suggests that "Chu Yu-Tun" is a significant alternative form of his name. Why do not you mention it in the first sentence of the lead?
(Lead): Why do not you mention his posthomous name in the lead? Borsoka (talk) 06:49, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
@Borsoka Chu Yu-Tun is an old transliteration method that is not commonly used nowadays. Min968 (talk) 07:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
Congratulations, this is clearly a GA. Thank you for completing it. Borsoka (talk) 08:31, 4 July 2025 (UTC)