# Talk:Stefanos Tsitsipas

Does anyone know what the following Greek sentence means? It is from this article https://www.protothema.gr/sports/article/803462/wimbledon-simera-o-agonas-tou-tsitsipa-poio-einai-to-19hrono-hruso-agori-tou-tenis/, but I do not trust the translation.
«Είµαι µέλος µιας πολύτεκνης οικογένειας µε τέσσερα παιδιά. Οι γονείς µου δεν µπορούσαν να στηρίξουν την προσπάθειά µου µόνο από τη δική τους τσέπη. Ταξίδια, προπονητές και camp προετοιµασίας κοστίζουν µια περιουσία. Αν δεν υπήρχε η δίδυµη αδελφή της µητέρας µου,
πρώην τενίστρια και µέλος της εθνικής οµάδας της πρώην Σοβιετικής Ενωσης και εκείνη, που υπήρξε αρωγός µου από την πρώτη στιγµή, δεν ξέρω αν θα τα είχα καταφέρει. Της χρωστώ πολλά και της είµαι ευγνώµων»

"I am a member of a multi-child family with four children. My parents could not support my financially demanding effort on their own. All those travels, coaches and training camps cost a fortune. If it were not for my mother's twin sister, an ex-tennis player herself, and member of the Soviet Union's national team, who was there to help me from the very beginning, i am not sure i would have made it. I owe her a lot and i am grateful to her." - Radiphus (talk) 17:59, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
The claim about his mother's twin sister puzzles me though. There is no mention of a twin sister in his mother's article and I cannot find any another Salnikova besides Stefanos' mother in the records of the Soviet Union's Fed Cup team or their Hopman Cup team, nor can I find any Salnikova representing the Soviet Union at the Olympics. So, who is this mysterious twin sister of Julia and which "Soviet Union national team" was she a member of?Tvx1 01:44, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
I don't think she played Fed Cup, but she does exist. Here is a picture of Tsitsipas with his mother and aunt. And here is a brief mention of them playing together in a tournament (on page 5). Sportsfan77777 (talk) 02:35, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the second source. I didn't really doubt she actually existed but now at least we know her name: Alla Salnikova. Nevertheless I cannot find a record of any Alla Salnikova, or (having considered she could have used a married name) even any lady with the given name Alla, competing for one of the Soviet Union national tennis teams or at the Olympics. Looking more into the source and the languages I think an error of translation might have taken place. The above sentence about the mother's sister can be more literally translated as "If it were not for the twin sister of my mother, an ex-tennis player herself, and member of the Soviet Union's national team, who was there to help me from the very beginning, i am not sure i would have made it." and it looks like the "member of the Soviet Union's national team" actually referred to the mother and not her sister.Tvx1 03:01, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
I think an error of translation might have taken place. Perhaps, "δίδυµη αδελφή της µητέρας µου" should have been translated to "twin sister of my mother", instead of "my mother's twin sister", so that "my mother" would be mentioned last (as does "µητέρας µου" in the Greek text), making it more natural to link the parenthetical phrase "an ex-tennis player herself" to his mother. To be honest, even in the Greek text, someone without any knowledge (like me, who came here from WikiProject Greece) could think that he is referring to either of them. The fact that the rest of the sentece is all about his aunt may have nudged my perception towards the wrong way.  Radiphus (talk) 02:06, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Also, what level were the Berlin Indoor Championships. It don't see Julia's doubles title there listed in her article.Tvx1 03:30, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

I like what's been done with this article but one thing worries me about asking for Good status. This page is likely very unstable if Tsitsipas continues to do well the rest of the season. What will likely happen is this article will get split in two with most of the charts heading to a "Stephanos Tsisipas career statistics" article. It's what always happens to prominent tennis players...Madison Keys is an example. Maybe it makes no difference but I just wanted to make sure people realize the likely outcome of the article. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:02, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

That would be fine. Stability has to do with content disputes. Splitting the charts into a separate article doesn't count as being unstable. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
I wasn't sure how that worked. Thanks for the info. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:08, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
It's not only about content disputes. Wikipedia does not generally promote articles on highly notable active sportspeople to Good Article status. This is because they evolve quickly and within a couple of months they could be massively different to the version that was judged to meet the GA criteria.Tvx1 02:52, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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Tsitsipas' principal image used on his profile is three years old and therefore is not up to date. I have uploaded an image of superior quality today which is quite recent. I would request that my image is replaced in place of the older image which is from 2018. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123yali (talk • contribs) 11:28, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

At Teahouse, you have been asked to confirm that this is a photo you yourself took. Here, you call it "my image", but there is a strong suspicion that you copied this from a copyright protected source, even though at Commons you claim that you hold the copyright. David notMD (talk) 12:46, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Unless User:123yali is Christophe Archambault, then any claim of taking the picture himself is an outright lie. -- Whpq (talk) 13:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
I apologise for writing my image. I realise that it sounds as if I took the image but all I meant was to say that the image I uploaded should be used. I didn't realise that it was licensed. I should have known better. 

123yali (talk) 13:36, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

The fact of his frequent and long toilet breaks, which he use as a tactical move and which were criticized by many tennis players as Murray, Zverev and Mannarino, should be added in this article in my opinion.--User:Tomcat7 (talk) 08:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I think it is a notable controversy, a subject of many articles in reliable sources. You can add it in an unbiased, objective manner. You have to make sure you don't insert your own perspective or opinion into it, such as "he uses it as a tactical move", when you cannot prove it. Also, please make sure you don't repeat lies widely repeated on social media such as Andy Murray's repeated "20 minutes" misinformation. You can only cite facts from reliable sources, without adding your own analysis.—J. M. (talk) 17:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

This section should be retitled to something not as inflammatory. We must take BLP into account here. My tightness (talk) 03:39, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

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