# Talk:Sermon on the Mound

I read the whole speech and nowhere does Thatcher mention the Good Samaritan, so I removed it from the article (although I know she did comment on that parable, but not in this speech). - Johnbull 03:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Quite right.  I don't know why that quote has become associated with this speech, but in fact she made it away  back in 1968 in Blackpool [1]: "The point is that even the Good Samaritan had to have the money to help, otherwise he too would have had to pass on the other side."  But she repeated it on TV in 1980 [2]: "No-one would remember the good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions; he had money as well." In 1988 it was quoted back at her in Parliament (PM question time) by Win Griffiths [3]: "The Prime Minister thought that the most significant thing about the parable of the Good Samaritan... [Interruption] ...was that he had money in his pocket to help those in need. Will she now, in the spirit of the Good Samaritan, advocate that all those who have received money beyond their wildest dreams from the Chancellor in the Budget should give it back to help those people, or does she prefer the parable of Lazarus and the rich man?"  --Doric Loon 13:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know if it would be possible to get a photo of the actual event? The photo in this newspaper article would be perfect, if it is in the public domain: https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/16240741.thatchers-sermon-mound-widely-misinterpreted/.  --Doric Loon (talk) 01:31, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Sermon on the Mound/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 19:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Comments

"made by Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to" perhaps -> "made by Margaret Thatcher, the British Prime Minister, to..." just because it's good to underpin the fact that Scotland and "Britain" aren't the same thing.
Four citations in the lead, they can easily be moved to the main body per MOS:LEADCITE as nothing in the lead should be missing from the main part of the article.
"address" is mentioned several times, can we mix it up a little with "speech"?
"1985 Faith in the City report" italics?
" a play on" link for "play"?
"her Oxford years" link that savage university here.
"And it has..." never keen on seeing sentences beginning with "and....
"idea in Margaret Thatcher's political" no need for Margaret.
"famously summed" notably
Is linking Evangelical Methodist Church worthwhile?  All my experience of Methodists is the opposite to evangelical!
"and each one counts."" reference.
"Choice played a significant part in Thatcherite reforms and Thatcher claimed choice" repetitive, re-word.
"stating that Christ chose" claiming, or suggesting, rather than "stating".  And do we really need to link Christ?
Or God for that matter?
" Spirit - something" en-dash.
"Thacherite" typo.
"in the press as " no need to link that to a different target.
"end for Conservative" link.
"English Methodism and" overlinked.
References with online links need to be formatted properly, suggest using the {{cite web}} template, happy to help with that if it's a problem.
Page numbers normally have a space between the p. and the number.
That's all I have for this first read. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:54, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: Thanks so much for your thorough review. I have implemented everything you suggested, except one point: Evangelical Methodist Church is a separate American denomination. But I did link Evangelicalism - the Methodists today are mostly fairly liberal, as you noted yourself, but their origins in the Wesleyan revival were Evangelical, and that still had an impact on Thatcher as a girl. I have also changed the references to a newer format that I now prefer - hope you approve. Please do look in again and tell me if I have missed anything. --Doric Loon (talk) 16:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)