# Talk:The Crusade (Doctor Who)

The data was not created to fit the article format, the article format was created to hold the data.  Are we going keep information that could be worked into a section stuck in the notes (a miscellaneous catch-all) or are we going to modify a format that would be better off modified? proteus71 20:30, 7 Dec 2005

Ultimately, I would prefer to keep things in a consistent look throughout the articles unless there's a strong reason not to. Like I said, in The Daleks' Master Plan it was unweildly and that at least justified the division. I am not persuaded that the same holds for The Crusade since there's not as much information in the notes to sift through, but since there is a difference of opinion here, perhaps you could bring it up to the rest of the Wikiproject for input and see if a consensus can be reached on this. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:42, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
P.S. I've placed a note on the Wikiproject talk page pointing here. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:43, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks.  proteus71 16:05, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Seems that the conversation is best suited for Wikipedia:Wikiproject Doctor Who#Style guide issues, since it's a more general discussion, so let's talk about it there. Josiah has already provided some input. --02:10, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

El Akir is about to attack Barbara when Ian arrives in the nick of time. They engage in a sword fight, but Ian soon finds himself overpowered by the enraged Saracen. Before El Akir can kill Ian, Haroun bursts in and fatally stabs El Akir.
I think this order of events is incorrect - I believe Haroun kills El Akir first, before Ian has arrived. Then Ian arrives when the guards burst in, and Ian and Haroun overpower the guards together. But I'm nowhere near sure enough to change it myself. Does anyone else remember? --Brian Olsen 15:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The order as described is correct. --Litefoot 19:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't sure if you were saying the order as previously described, or as I described, was correct. So I took another look at it and, well...I was right. So I'm going to change the plot summary. --Brian Olsen 22:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

What was the next episode? The crew freeze and what...did the producers run out of money to film it?!Tourskin 07:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

No it's a cliffhanger for the next story The Space Museum. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

This story was not sold to middle-eastern countries due to the crusades being sensitive subject matter. For those nations that were not sold this story, the final episode of the previous story The Web Planet featured a caption with "Next Week: The Space Museum" instead of "Next Week: The Lion." This alternative end tag was on the version of The Web Planet recovered from Algeria.
That whole paragraph is incorrect: 
1) The fact that the Crusades occurred in part of the Middle-East has nothing to do with it. The only serials sold to Arabic-speaking countries were An Unearthly Child to The Rescue. No others. This has been fully researched last year from BBC records found at the BBC by Paul Vanezis in 2008, and from foreign newspapers TV listings; published on the BroaDWcast website with Paul's assistance.   
2) The Web Planet never screened in Algeria, so no prints could have come back from there. (Prints with the original Next Episode "The Lion" caption were recovered in Nigeria in 1984.)
3) The Next Episode caption was changed after The Crusade was withdrawn from sale, and The Space Museum became the next story that was available; this is based on the BBC documentation found by Paul Vanezis in 2008.  
4) Richard Molesworth's book Wiped (published by Telso in 2011) also debunks the "not sold to Middle East" claim.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpreddle (talk • contribs) 22:29, 16 October 2011 (UTC)