# Talk:Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument

It has been a while since this article has been reviewed, so I took a look and noticed lots of uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. The article also relies upon quotes, which I find somewhat promotional. Should this article go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:25, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Yes. Viriditas (talk) 03:25, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
@Viriditas: Would you be interested in bringing this to WP:GAR? I bring lots of articles to GAR so new voices are always welcome. Z1720 (talk) 03:50, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
Why don't I try fixing it up first?  If it still doesn't work, then we can bring it there. Viriditas (talk) 03:55, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
@Z1720:  The German version of this topic manages to nicely summarize it in just six paragraphs.  I might try using that as a baseline to start. Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
@Z1720:  Completed a first, preliminary cleanup pass.  Still needs a lot more work. Viriditas (talk) 23:47, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
@Viriditas: Please ping me when this is ready for a re-review. I won't send this to GAR while work is ongoing. Z1720 (talk) 23:56, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
That would require a rewrite, which I have not yet started. Viriditas (talk) 02:04, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
I have slowly started a rewrite. Not sure how long it will take, but I already have a roadmap I’ve worked out in my head. Viriditas (talk) 18:46, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
The good news is that I've managed to make some major updates, bringing the 2008 and 2016 updates more current with 2025.  Still need to do about a week's worth of work to fix everything else. Viriditas (talk) 04:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
 Preliminary cleanup of refs and out of date info complete.  Will move on to replacing older poor sources and poorly sourced content next.  After that is complete, I will expand the Native Hawaiian history, the legislative milestones (some are missing), flesh out and expand the geology and ecology, rewrite and expand the lead, trim back the external links, and hopefully finish this up. Viriditas (talk) 09:53, 19 November 2025 (UTC)