# Talk:Squat Milada

Mujinga, BigChrisKenney, and Chidgk1 

Greetings, A C-class article shooting for GA skipping the checking of the B-class criteria, ambitious. I disagree with the decision and think the review was based on deficient information or actually the lack thereof. I am not deriding the nomination or the promotion as there is still information I am looking for. However, I feel there is more to the story and location bias is surely an issue. Maybe an involved editor will be able to use some of the sources and information below.
Advice: I know there is is a backlog but there were valid concerns that were raised that I feel were not adequately resolved.
Since there are non-English sourcing, and I don't speak the language, I am at somewhat at a disadvantage there. According to WP:GACR6 (#2) "Verifiable with no original research" and note #2, I must refrain from commenting on the value of non-English sources. I do have sufficient knowledge of policies and guidelines, article presentation, story telling, and research.
I am afraid some issues might be hard to resolve, but surely not impossible. The size of the article is not an issue as long as all the other criterion are met. To me, in the present condition, the article is deficient.
The "Final Assessment" #3 "Broad in its coverage": a. The "Note to 2nd opinion reviewer": lists three concerns and I have an issue concerning all three. Answers to reviewer questions were not enlightening, again, as stated, there is a difficulty finding sources.
Lead: The shortness of the article doesn't mean article content can't be summarized in shorter paragraphs still satisfying the criteria. The importance of the lead can't be overstated.
History: The short history is a concern. Comments that the "lack of recent info is frustrating", is frustrating. Information and sources are two years old but the notability is either already established, or not. A main problem is that after being stricken from the "official list" there wasn't a real need to write about a building that no longer exists.
Adolf Loos (10 December 1870 – 23 August 1933) was the architect. The estate sits near the bank of the Vltava.

The house mansion, or vila (villa), as the article is written, is suppose to be the central theme not squatters, but content leans too far towards the squatters which capture the more central theme, again, as presented. There are articles that more than amply deal the subject of squatters. The name of the article does give leeway for squatter inclusion.
Title: There is a disconnect between the title and the complete (actually not overall complete) story.
Maybe there is an alternative title that doesn't have a disconnect. The synopsis is a house, per the opening sentence that should establish notability, goes into an alternate story of "the squatters", that in the body overtakes the subject, then ends with "...as of 2023, the building was standing derelict".
English sources found: story/ Prague (Cz): Squat Milada her_story (August 26th, 2009). Note: If any of these are on the article just overlook them.
There is a collection of information with dates from 2009 to 2012. The central theme of this source is about the house.
The counterculture of squatters at Squat Milada were moved to Truhlářská 11 (title:Taking shelter) but the inhabitants couldn't be considered "squatters" as they payed a token rent of one crown a month and were unhappy because they were not living rent free.
The controversial relocation was helped by Michael Kocáb, the Minister of Human Rights and National Minorities in the Government of the Czech Republic. I added some info there. That article has some interviews and some insight about the squatters at Milada. They considered themselves a counterculture and Squat Milada was never just about housing. It was a way of life, political protest, and cultural expression. The former Squat Milada members were a different movement. They challenged the idea of having to pay for shelter, and defying laws. Milada became a squatting social center. The article discloses that Squat Milada was located at Prague 8-Troja.
Current: The building is still listed as an historic villa at Na Kindlovce 1088, 182 00 Prague 8 - Libeň, Czechia and shown here. It is in a state of dilapidation with windows missing and the roof missing.
Squatting in the Czech Republic and Squatting mentions Food Not Bombs as does this article. There was no connection so I added some content to tie these together. The source might have information but the link to Food Not Bombs led to a US based article that didn't even mention any non-US involvement let alone the subject. This was the case on more than one occasion.
I love to see deserving articles promoted to GA but here there is a fundamental title to article disconnect so I would have a hard time attempting to improve the article.
However, the above information likely contains some content worthy of inclusion. I will put it on my list and look later.  --  Otr500 (talk) 23:04, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
Hi Otr500 please feel free to add to the article! If you have a reliable source saying the architect was Loos, that would be great. I'm not sure if I quite follow your objections. Let me know if you need help with any of the Czech sources. Best, Mujinga (talk) 00:01, 6 February 2025 (UTC)