# Talk:TAM Airlines Flight 3054

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so the entire article is written in a way that makes the reader assume that the condition of the runway and negligence caused this entire accident, dwelling at length on the drainage issues and resurfacing. Yet when we get to the actual crash it turns out that it was actually caused by pilot error, and never explains anywhere how the "unsafe runway" contributed to the crash. What, if they had better drainage it wouldn't have mattered if a pilot accidentally landed with one engine on full thrust and one working thrust reverse, everyone would have been fine? They were negligent for not completely closing the airport for another month to all traffic just in case a pilot tried to land in these conditions? Is there some political goal at work here that makes this emphasis necessary? Because as far as I can tell that deserves a small additional paragraph pointing out that the safety of the runway was marginal and needed to be improved to provide a margin of potential safety against gross pilot errors life this, but that it didn't directly contribute to the crash. 
If the runway did somehow cause the crash to happen, and normally a plane could land safely in this condition, maybe explain that clearly instead of just implying it? 

Idumea47b (talk) 23:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Back in October 2024, there was an RfC on including the officially-determined causes in the aircraft occurrence infobox's summary field, which concluded that There is a consensus that they may, provided they are suitably brief and due weight is followed.
Given that, as well as the CENIPA not mentioning "pilot error" in their final report, how should we format the summary in this article's infobox? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

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