# Talk:PinkPantheress

The current lead image sucks, it's very hard to actually see her face. KnowDeath (talk) 19:42, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

I agree. Surely, there's a better, higher quality picture. I mean, she's famous; there has to be one fair use image more appropriate than this. LeShaunJ (talk) 03:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Due to PinkPantheress talking about her article image on her social media, this article has garnered some attention and I believe a discussion is needed on what photo we should be using, to avoid any further WP:EDITWARring. Unfortunately, she does not have many photos in commons, so here are our three options. Option A is my preference and you can see her performing, and she is a singer, though the lighting isn't great. B the lighting is better but she is looking away. However C she is small in the frame, making an awkward expression, and the subject herself even thinks it is unflattering. Also note that photo A was the photo on the article when it was granted Good Article status. Her image hasn't changed significantly since 2022, an unflattering update isn't needed in my opinion. orangesclub 🍊 01:02, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Option A is my strong preference. C is out of the question and would hardly be improved by any crop job, and in option B she's looking away from the camera so her face is largely obscured. Plus it looks like an offhand snap backstage (?), not the manner or place in which a pop star is typically presented (seeing an unposed and seemingly off-guard pop star feels like seeing Santa Claus at the beach or Angela Merkel in a Snuggie, haha). Option A shows her on stage singing, the setting expected of a musician, plus her face and pose appear the most natural by far. Thanks for starting this! Crunchydillpickle🥒 (talk) 14:12, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
I agree with what pickle said about B but she hasn’t worn braids since 2022 and probably won’t ever again for the foreseeable future. Her hair being straightened with bangs like option C is arguably her brand image now, Like how ice spice is to orange curly hair, and it’s more up to date not just time wise but brand image wise. Hair theory… But anyways Option C reflects her true stage personality, like for example in interviews and podcasts she has a comedic/humorous way of answering questions and presenting herself, which isn’t a bad thing. It may look unprofessional, but as I said it’s a reflection of the way she presents herself. C is at a fan meetup, so that’s also an environment where she’d be recognizable in and not out of place. The only better option than a fan meet up would be probablyyy some sort of fashion show or celebrity event, but they’re all copyrighted. I do agree that C isn’t the BEST picture in the world of her but compared to the other options, the image quality is crisp and natural unlike the others blurring and being cropped. A and B just fit the readers expectation of Wikipedia having extremely unflattering photos of celebrities, but C seems to me as a gem since it’s not violating any copyright and also presenting all the good things i stated about it. So in all i know C is the best option to be on her page, and at any time when a generally better photo is uploaded onto Wiki Commons (preferably by a fan, in a concert, meetup, or celebrity event Enviornment.) it should be replacing C. Haloretailstore (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
I don't really understand how image C is recognisable as a fan meetup, to me it almost looks like she is presenting a speech at a local council, which is clearly out of place for her. She is known as a singer, which is better represented by A or B. I know that there could be better photos of her performing that do represent her fun personality, but for now we don't have that and image C isn't fulfilling that either. Ice Spice also presently doesn't have a lead image with orange curly hair, her "brand", so I can't really say that changes in hair are enough to justify an image that so many editors, and PinkPantheress herself, have a problem with. orangesclub 🍊 04:34, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
okay idc any more about this just pick ur own picture
but when a better one comes to light on commons then we need to add it . like an unarguably better one Haloretailstore (talk) 01:06, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
also someone changed the photo again even though there’s a template warning . Haloretailstore (talk) 20:33, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
(Summoned by Twitter post) Option A, imo. As said above, lighting isn't the best but you can see her performing, as a singer does. While I understand that Option C is the most recent one, it's (as said before) got an unnatural pose, awkward expression and has been maligned by the subject herself. Option B would be my second choice, as while the quality is a little better the image doesn't show her face as well. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 13:47, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
A>B>C, for all the reasons stated above. Agree that when we have a better one, we should be open to changing. Alyo (chat·edits) 15:33, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Honestly, all three images are unfit. C is the most accurate to what she looks like now, and it's also the worst one. LeShaunJ (talk) 03:44, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

hey is it usable or not Haloretailstore (talk) 19:04, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Haloretailstore, I'm looking at the photos that you uploaded, and I just have to check where they came from. Did you take each one of these photos or videos? Or did you upload photos that you've found on the internet? Alyo (chat·edits) 12:57, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
it’s mine check the copyright? Haloretailstore (talk) 23:26, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Just to confirm, you're the one who took the photos, right? Alyo (chat·edits) 15:36, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
yes  Haloretailstore (talk) 00:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
Great, then yes, they are usable. Alyo (chat·edits) 00:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

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