# Talk:Pill Hill (play)

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Reviewer: Susanne2009NYC (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

At first, I did some copy editing on the article, but thought twice and returned the article to its original version. Let's go from there ... 
The Good Article criteria:
Well-written: 
(a) the prose is clear and the spelling and grammar are correct; and 
(b) it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. 

ON HOLD
Some small typos here and there. One long sentence can be broken down into two or three sentences. Some material is repeated here and there. The lead section can be developed - it should be a summary of the entire article. Layout needs development. Look at other "play" articles such as Streetcar Named Desire, A (play), The Tempest, etc. to get some ideas for possible sections. I suggest in order: Characters, Plot, Themes, Production details, Performance history,  Critical reception, and Publication.
As I look at your examples, it seems to me that a separate character section would only apply to this if the characters were common subjects of critical review worthy of their own articles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  00:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I suggest something like this for the Lead:
Pill Hill is a play by American dramatist Sam Kelley.  Set in a neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago known informally as Pill Hill, the play examines the failures, successes, and relationships of six African American steel mill workers as they transition from blue-collar jobs to white-collar professions between 1973 and 1983.  Pill Hill debuted at the 1990 Yale Repertory Theatre Winterfest series of plays in progress, and was subsequently performed in several venues across the United States. The play was published by Dramatic Publishing Company in 1995.
Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  04:53, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Factually accurate and verifiable: 
(a) it provides references to all sources of information in the section(s) dedicated to the attribution of these sources according to the guide to layout; 
(b) it provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines; and 
(c) it contains no original research. 

PASS
Broad in its coverage: 
(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and 
(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). 

ON HOLD
The academic credentials of the author should not be listed here. This is unnecessary detail. These credentials belong in a stand alone biographical article about the author. There may be enough material online to actually create a biographical article.
Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias. 

PASS
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

PASS
Illustrated, if possible, by images:
(a) images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content; and 
(b) images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.

No images at this time but I suggest finding a cover of the published edition of the play at Alibris, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, or Abebooks.  A free pic of the Pill Hill neighborhood in Chicago is a possibility.
I can not find the cover art online.  I added an image of a notable building in the neighborhood.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  00:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
PASS
I'm placing the article ON HOLD for improvements to be made. I'll check back in a week. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 13:08, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
I am assuming you are just getting started. Let me know when you have finished the review.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  15:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Delete the image. It isn't a pic of the neighborhood but of one building that has no relation to the play. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 00:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Done--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  00:12, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
The plot can be summarized in one paragraph rather than three that are divided into acts. Act 1, for example, is nothing more than a 'cast of characters' sort of thing and does not describe the action in that particular act. Just summarize the entire play in a paragraph rather than acts. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 00:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Although it is counterintuitive for me to do so, I have done this too.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  00:12, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm thinking of something like the section below as adequate foe the article. A character section would list the characters in a way similar to the dramatis personae in a printed book or script. The plot dosn't need to be described by the acts. A passage from the Analysis section would be an adequate plot summary. The section should look something like this:
Characters and plot

Charlie, a 20-year steel mill veteran whose goal is a promotion to machine operator
Eddie, a full-time student who has surrendered his job at the mill
Al, a night school student working at the mill to provide for his family
Tony, an encyclopedias salesman
Scott, a worker at the mill who was dismissed from college
Joe, a steel mill worker who plans to leave the mill when his car note is paid
The three-act play examines the failures, successes, and relationships of six black steel mill workers in Chicago as they transition from blue-collar jobs to the white-collar professions. The time is 1973, 1978, and 1983, and the scene is a Chicago basement apartment where the characters meet to socialize over cards and drinks. Racial themes relating to the disparity of life at the steel mill are presented, and dreams about possibilities represented by the upscale Pill Hill neighborhood in Chicago are examined.  The conflicts are painful as the characters deal with leaving the comfortable life of the mill to embark on a road of uncertainty while pursuing professional aspirations. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 20:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

O.K. How is it now?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  20:52, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Great! I've done some light copy edit and the article meets the criteria. PASS to GA. Congratulations! Susanne2009NYC (talk) 16:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

This article is missing a background section about how this play was conceived and came to be written and produced.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:44, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

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