# Talk:Vazelon Monastery

Hello! Here are some books that apparently make some mention of Vazelon; however, the Google Books preview is limited or missing. If someone has access to a hard copy of these sources, they could add/verify info. 

The Empire of Trebizond and the Pontus 62 mentions of Vazelon in the book. I can preview 3.
Continuity and Change in Late Byzantine and Early Ottoman Society 40 mentions of Vazelon in the book. I can preview 3.
Peoples and Settlement in Anatolia and the Caucasus 37 mentions. I can preview 3.
The Lives of the Monastery Builders of Soumela According to Hathi Trust Digital Library, there are 11 mentions of Vazelon in this book.
Holygrounds of Turkey 4 mentions
The Palgrave Atlas of Byzantine History I can preview the index. Vazelon is mentioned on page 160.
Thank you for your time!
Kravk (talk) 20:40, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Vazelon Monastery/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Alan Islas (talk · contribs) 14:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I will be taking on this review. Going through it now and will be adding comments soon. --Alan Islas (talk) 14:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


### Comments
A stable, very well written article, well sourced and covering the important aspects of the subject. Tone is neutral, and images are freely licensed. 
Just a few comments:

I would suggest to add archived versions to the online references using either Wayback Machine or archive.today. This to ensure that they don't eventually become dead links. This would apply to refs: 2, 6, 7, 60, 61.
Done - should I find archive links for all web sources (including refs: 2, 12, 14, 36, 43, 53, 54, 58, and 59)? -Kravk (talk) 00:51, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Some wikilinks appear several times, where MOS:REPEATLINK indicates that "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article". Some examples of repeated wikilinks in the article are: World War I, Greek/Turkish population exchange, Pontian, threshing floors, Turkish Historical Society, but there may be others.
Done - removed repeat links to World War I, Greek/Turkish population exchange, Pontian, threshing floors, Turkish Historical Society, Justinian I, Byzantine Empire, Empire of Trebizond, John the Baptist, Last Judgement, Pontus, St. Petersburg, and a couple more. Thank you! -Kravk (talk) 17:40, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
This sentence feels a bit awkward "Atop the monastery lies one church; it's built into a cave". Perhaps "Atop the monastery lies one church built into a cave" works better.
Done - thanks for the sentence. -Kravk (talk) 01:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
"... determined that the chapel was dedicated to the religious figure". Was to be?
Done - reworded some confusing sentences. -Kravk (talk) 01:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
"Manpower was short, so slaves went for high prices compared to land and livestock. Sometimes the raiders would ransom Trapezuntines back to their families; a hieromonk's sister, for example, would be returned for a fixed price of 850 aspers". Style may be too casual with the "so" and "would".
Done - removed "so" and "would". -Kravk (talk) 01:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
I am unsure of the relevance of the "Naming customs" subsection. Do you think it adds significantly to the article overall?
Done - removed this subsection. Integrated the less trivial stuff into another section. -Kravk (talk) 17:40, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
--Alan Islas (talk) 23:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments! I'll get started on these edits as soon as possible. I agree with your comments; I realize the "naming customs" section is a little superfluous. I think I'll remove that subsection and move the contents around/delete as needed.
--Kravk (talk) 00:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Web links for web sources are not mandatory so I think just focusing on the sources more likely to go dead in the near future is enough. For example, I don't think an archive link is needed for the Guardian or World History Encyclopedia sources. I'll leave it up to you if you want to add more but I'm satisfied with what you have done already. 
Just waiting for your trimming of redundant wikilinks and the naming customs subsection to pass the article. About the wikilinks, I think some flexibility is allowed, especially where a repeated link may help the reader. But there are some redundant wikilinks that I believe should be removed. For example, there are two wikilinks to "Population exchange between Greece and Turkey" in the same paragraph. 
Thanks, --Alan Islas (talk) 12:21, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Had another look at your further edits. Looks good to me. Passing now. Alan Islas (talk) 19:16, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much! Hope you have a good day. -Kravk (talk) 19:26, 17 March 2021 (UTC)