# Talk:View of the World from 9th Avenue

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Reviewer: GreatOrangePumpkin (talk · contribs) 09:26, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

"is the name of the a 1976 illustration by Saul Steinberg that served as the cover of the March 29, 1976 edition of The New Yorker."
Fixed.--13:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
"The work is presented from the perspective that Manhattan is the center of the world." - I don't think the usage of "that" is correct in this case (also odd usage of passive voice): "The work presents the view from Manhatten on the rest of the world"
How is it now?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  13:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
"that Steinberg's copyright had been violated." - ditto. Something like: because of copyright violations by Columbia"
O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  13:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
"It is also considered an example of something that has made a person famous for the wrong reason." - perhaps: "It is considerd an example of unintentional fame", elaborate.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  13:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
What do you think of the change?
"The illustration is split in two parts"
Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  13:54, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
"New York presented the interpretation that the New York-centric mind's view of the rest of the world as a set of outer boroughs is what is iconic about the subject.[9]" - New York intepreted the New York-centric mind's view of the rest of the world as a set of outer boroughs as iconic"
Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  13:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
"Fulford, while writing in The National Post,"
O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  14:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
" Fulford pointed out a high school in suburban Ottawa made imitating this work an assignment in its graphic arts class," - I don't understand
What do you think now?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  14:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
"which held that Columbia Pictures violated the copyright that Steinberg held on his work."
O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  14:10, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
"with apologies to steinberg" - should Steinberg be in uppercase? If not then suggest adding a sic note
Fixed ref.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  14:26, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
"that discussed the rise to prominence of the Chinese economy at the time of the the contemporary financial crisis.[13]" - perhaps replace the underlined with "burgeoning" or something similar
O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  14:33, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Ref 2 has no publisher--Kürbis (✔) 11:26, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Added.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  14:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

TJRC, The article includes the following two sources which may point toward a 1975 creation date:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-may-14-mn-37147-story.html
https://almanac.upenn.edu/archive/v42/n11/back.html
I am not sure about what the 2nd source is really saying about 1975, but the first one is a plain english statement that the work was made in 75.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:45, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

under the external sources, the link to the julia santen gallery has been taken over by some online gambling site
remove this section if you need to, after the page is cleaned  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:4A90:B00:51F6:5396:7658:9E7E (talk) 14:21, 15 June 2021 (UTC) 

Withdrawn. ChatGPT hallucinated a bunch of non-existent covers.

Pifvyubjwm (talk) 06:06, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Note that I have been given the green light at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#BigThink.com to use Big Think as a source.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:58, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Which east-west street does the view look down? 2600:1702:1D00:9A80:D4E:D9EE:4297:8A1F (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

We're not supposed to do "original research" but the West Side Elevated Highway was one block over from 10th Avenue (without an intervening 11th Avenue) south of 72nd street.  Much of the West Side Elevated Highway seems not to have been in use in 1976... AnonMoos (talk) 16:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
I believe it's the street nearest The New Yorker's offices. —Tamfang (talk) 20:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Steinberg has noted that the type of fame that resulted from the work has diminished his significance to "the man who did that poster"...At one point The New Yorker applied for a copyright from the United States Copyright Office for the work. It assigned the copyright to Steinberg and subsequently reproduced posters of the painting.
I wonder if more could be said about the posters and their appearance in American culture in the 1980s.  These posters were everywhere, and if memory serves, can be found in numerous cultural works from that time (movies, etc.) It was definitely a cultural phenomenon. Viriditas (talk) 20:22, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

Researching pop culture is always hit or miss. There is no real reliable way to find exhaustive or even extensive reliable sources.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:30, 30 September 2025 (UTC)