# Talk:Utica, New York

Are we sure this name was in the Mohawk language and not the Oneida language? The Thomas source just says a site the Iroquois called "Unundadages," which doesn't specify which Iroquois tribe or language. The Hauptman source doesn't say which language either but mentions it in a chapter solely about the Oneidas. The maps on Iroquois seem to put Utica in Oneida territory, although the city isn't placed on the maps and I don't think firm boundaries existed back then. Apocheir (talk) 04:43, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I agree, the Mohawk words I've seen for Utica are either iotékha (it’s on fire), or niionontatá:se (it twisted the mountain). It is technically Oneida territory, from the maps of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy that are available. And if Unundadages is the Oneida word then don't call it Mohawk. Nevermiand. (talk) 18:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The Mohawk names would be interesting to add, what's your source for them? Apocheir (talk) 00:28, 1 September 2023 (UTC)