# Talk:Ted Jolliffe

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Abebenjoe 03:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Not putting it on hold yet, still looking through. Just two points, the "First election campaigns" section is a bit small. If it can't be expanded perhaps it should be merged into one of the other sections. Also, under references: the book notes might be better at the top (one title of these is in bold), and the PDF ref should have PDF noted under format of that reference. Haven't found any major problems, I will probably pass soon, esp. if you get those bits sorted. - J Logan t: 18:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
And do you need the detailed notes for the election table? On the main page for that its of course needed but this is just about one of the leaders. - J Logan t: 08:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Made the suggested changes regarding merging early education and his first two election attempts.  As for the notes, I usually put detail that doesn't really belong to the main part of the article there.  It's detailed as you pointed for the leader, but if someone on the off-chance might be interested to know what happened to the UFO party, they can see it within the article as opposed to having to go to another article.  I'm not beholden to it, I inherited that data when I started upgrading the article.  If you really feel it shouldn't be there, then by all means delete it.  B.T.W., thank you for taking the time to critic the article.  It's the first feedback I've had on it in many months.--Abebenjoe 02:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
No problem, GA system is a tad backlogged (seems like its best to put it up for it before you start upgrading!). The point on the notes was just a minor point, no need to worry about that too much. On another small note, is the line "When Edward Drew (George's son) dies, these archives will become unrestricted." meant to be inside the ref tags? Seems like it is meant to be within the prose, reason for it at all? Also, do you have references for;

Early life and education (second para)
1948 re-elected MPP
Post MPP career
Nothing very controversial so I'm not going to hold the GA back for it but it would help the articles validity to have some kind of ref tag on these areas. - J Logan t: 14:08, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I can get citations for those sections.  I left the information about Drew's son in the reference because it is too detailed for the main article, but backs-up the paragraph it is cited in.  When David Lewis revealed that Drew's illegal activities were documented in his funds at the Canadian Archives, Edward immediately put restrictions on them.  Prior to this proof, Jolliffe was considered unjustified, by many people, to make the Gestapo claim.  It turns out that Premier Drew did have the police spy on the Queen's Loyal Opposition. --Abebenjoe 17:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for delay here, I've put it on hold if you can get some citations on it. If you can't, tell me and I'll pass as is but I'd prefer to pass on the best situ. 16:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of September 29, 2007, compares against the  six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Is written well, but could do with some improvements on the flow and overall structure.
2. Factually accurate?: Some points could do with citation but nothing major or controversal, all accurate none the less.
3. Broad in coverage?: Covers topic with enough detail for such a figure, all notable points covered.
4. Neutral point of view?: Any controversy backed up, written from NPOV.
5. Article stability? No major changes or vandlaism, no edit wars, very stable.
6. Images?: Only image is PD and used properly.
If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. 
—- J Logan t: 20:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm Ted Jolliffe's nephew. I have a pile of photographs and written family histories is there is any need to confirm details:  from birth to about 1935. Email me if you need details. the article is great, it does him justice-- so to speak.--Vancircuit 04:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)