# Talk:Pim Fortuyn List

I am not a native English speaker, but still think piety is the better term instaed of pity (my dictionary supports me). 
Pity if for living people. Piety for deceased.
Therefore reverting copyedit. Erik Zachte

Actually, piety implies respect toward a deity or revered institution, rather than to a person, dead or living.  It's not clear if pity is quite right either, so I edited the sentence in question to avoid both: another way would be to use the word respect. Someone else
I find '26 out of 150' much easier to read than 'twenty-six out of one-hundred fifty', why was this changed? Patrick
From Wikipedia:Naming conventions:
Use plain numbers only for years 
Convention: In general the use of number-only page names should only be used for Year in Review entries. So call it Form 1040, not 1040, and Intel 386, not 386. That way, if we ever want to add a page about what happened in the year 1040 or the year 386, we won't have a collision with the other uses of numbers. Erik Zachte

The Wikipedia naming convention refers to page names, not to the use of numbers in text. The Chicago Manual of Style states that you spell out numbers from one to ten, and use numerals for 11 and higher. There are exceptions in the case of percentages and money. So the text in this article should read 26 out of 150, not "twenty-six out of one-hundred fifty". I am therefore changing the text back to using numbers. soulpatch

These naming conventions are for naming pages, and they make much sense. I was referring to text in a page. (Moreover, even in page names digits are allowed, just not a name consisting of a single number written in digits, since that is reserved for years.) Patrick
Hi Soulpatch, according to the history I would have erased your comment, but it was not there when I started editing. Maybe something went wrong because we were editing at the same time or something. I am sorry, anyway. Patrick

The List Pim Fortuyn will take part of the 2006 elections under the name "Fortuyn"[1]. I guess the name of this article needs to reflect the change. Intangible 17:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

"Will" is incorrect; they are being sued over this by P. Fortuyn's brother, so things are far from sure. 82.176.194.151 12:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

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The infobox (and nlhwiki) say the LPF was founded 14 February 2002, whereas the "history" section says:

Fortuyn founded Pim Fortuyn List (LPF) on 11 February
The page sources this statement to Europe for the Europeans (2007), which provides a general description of European nationalist groups in the 2000s and 1990s. I will say that this resource doesn't seem too concerned with the chronological details of the LPF's establishment.
Now, the Documentatiecentrum Nederlandse Politieke Partijen (DNPP) - which specializes on Dutch political history, says this (translated to English):

On 9 February, a split occurred between Leefbaar Nederland and Fortuyn, who had been elected as the party’s leader in November 2001. The cause was an interview Fortuyn gave to de Volkskrant on that same day, 9 February 2002 (see under Leefbaar Nederland in this Chronicle). When the board of Leefbaar Nederland rejected Fortuyn’s attempt to reconcile, he decided to participate in the upcoming elections with his own list. Initially, Fortuyn had lost heart, but he was persuaded by his friends A.F.Th. de Booij — owner of ‘Speakers Academy’, an agency that arranges speaking engagements for well-known Dutch personalities (including Fortuyn) — real estate dealer J.G.W. Dost, and nuclear physicist and entrepreneur P.J.K. Langendam. On February 14, they founded the political association ‘Lijst Pim Fortuyn’ (LPF). Fortuyn became chairman, Dost vice-chairman, Langendam secretary-treasurer, and De Booij second secretary. The next day, the LPF was officially registered with the Electoral Council.
Also, local newspaper confirms 14 February date:
https://leiden.courant.nu/issue/LD/2002-02-15/edition/0/page/4?query=
"Pim Fortuyn doet mee aan de verkiezingen voor de tweede kamer onder de naam Lijst Pim Fortuyn. Hij heeft zijn partij gisteren ingeschreven bij de Kamer van Koophandel in Rotterdam"
Translation: "Pim Fortuyn is participating in the elections for the House of Representatives under the name Lijst Pim Fortuyn. He registered his party yesterday with the Chamber of Commerce in Rotterdam."
Because the stronger sources (specialist and primary) state 14 february, I will change it.
Koopinator (talk) 14:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC)