# Talk:Possession (1981 film)

"Andrzej Żuławski delivers a masterpiece cult movie" doesn't seem like a good way to start a neutral article about a film.  There may be more.  Would somebody please take a look? --Tony Sidaway 12:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It seems this statement has been changed to a more neutral point of view which seems satisfactory and can be accurately cited from a variety of sources. TGTommyrocket (talk) 07:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)TGTommyrocket (talk) 07:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I am going to attempt a plot summary on this least narrative of films because while it is mostly a surreal examination of a dissolving marriage, it does have plot points which will be of interest to readers. TGTommyrocket (talk) 08:22, 29 January 2012 (UTC) TGTommyrocket
Seemingly in disregard of my TALK message on 29 Jan 2012, Doctorhawkes has attempted a summary. Because the summary is so badly written, inaccurate, and riddled with grammatical and syntactical errors, I have conflated it with my own, removing the bad grammar and unimportant details, fixing syntax and correcting plot errors. I have replaced it with a more objective plot summary which does not misinterpret events and which describes plot incidents rather than interprets them. TGTommyrocket (talk) 07:03, 1 February 2012 (UTC) TGTommyrocket

The movie is featured in a videoclip from the band Crystal Castles. The videoclip is called "Plague".

Is citing the tweet from Red Letter Media really needed in this case? It adds no information about the film. It only indicates that a single critic liked the film. Unless there are any objections, I'm going to remove it. Webster100 (talk) 22:48, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

The sentence about the tweet has been removed Webster100 (talk) 18:23, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

This article's production section is way too short and needs to be expanded in more detail than what it currently has. More information on the film's production should be added to the article since compared to the other sections it is the most underdeveloped, making expansion necessary so that it is more balanced with the rest of the article.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:46, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Here are some links to some interviews with the director/cast on the film that we can use:--Paleface Jack (talk) 16:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/film-comment-interview-andrzej-zulawski/
https://diaboliquemagazine.com/andrzej-zulawski-retrospective/
https://offscreen.com/view/an-interview-with-andrzej-zulawski-and-daniel-bird
https://mubi.com/notebook/posts/beginnings-are-useless-a-conversation-with-andrzej-zulawski
https://multiglom.com/2019/01/01/sam-neill-the-2001-interview/
http://www.incite-online.net/stefan.html

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I've adjusted the genres to only match what is written specifically in the article per WP:RS, WP:OR and WP:STICKTOSOURCE. This removed some other genres which I could not see written anywhere in the prose in full or abbreviated formats. If I'm missing anything, please fill in the blanks. I'd be happy to go into a deep dive for seeking out how the film is interpreted genre wise. Andrzejbanas (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I found some sources that describes the film as "psychological horror"
1. https://nofilmschool.com/possession-andrzej-zulawski
2. https://collider.com/why-was-possession-banned-explained/
3. https://www.slashfilm.com/1203963/sam-neill-says-slapping-isabelle-adjani-in-possession-was-the-most-distressing-thing-hes-ever-done-on-film/
I don’t know if these you would consider these sources reliable, but I think it’s enough to be classified as a psychological horror film. If not, I think it would at least be better sounding to merge the two genres together in a sentence say "a horror drama film" instead of saying it’s a "drama film and a horror film" or a "psychological drama and horror film." Valddlac (talk) 00:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
It's not that they are good sources or not, but we shouldn't just hunt for a genre we feel the film belongs to. If we really want to apply it, I'd just look through reviews or critical/scholarly commentary on the film (just so we know the person in question has actually seen the film) and try to find out the general consensus or more commonly applied term is for the genre that way. Andrzejbanas (talk) 07:32, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

@Nyxaros: The French version of the film poster, used in the article, was created by one of the members of the Polish Poster School movement, one of the few who was female. This poster is one of her most well-known works. This information should be reflected in the article, or at least the illustration's description. WP:RED states that "In general, a red link should remain in an article if there is a reasonable expectation that the article in question will eventually be created (either as its own article or as a redirect); remove red links if and only if Wikipedia should not have any coverage on the subject." I had indicated there would be an article on her forthcoming, and leaving red links in general help other task forces like WP:Women in Red to contribute articles about hard-to-find historical figures. Some discussion of her notability: https://web.archive.org/web/20230610115101/https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/the-forgotten-siren-of-polish-poster-art-barbara-baranowska-25391 https://www.new-east-archive.org/articles/show/13170/barbara-baranowska-polish-poster-artist-women-recollected https://culture.pl/en/article/basha-the-polish-poster-schools-most-reluctant-member LovelyLillith (talk) 18:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Only one ref was added to the infobox on the page, and the link was left there after an indication that the page would be created. The referenced information should not be added to the infobox in this way and should be included in the relevant section as well. I don't think that the other two references are sufficient either, at least until there is a consensus that these three websites prove her notability and are reliable. ภץאคгöร 18:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
@Nyxaros: An article has been created about Basha, and the references on her article's page have more to say about her artwork and fame than just the fact that she was the director's first wife. Why are you repeatedly trying to diminish her accomplishments by persistently removing information about her and even recommending the article wasn't notable? The alternate poster used outside of France is a photo of a naked woman with her back to the camera, but the best-known poster is her artwork. LovelyLillith (talk) 21:13, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Calm down. We never say "iconic" and/or "respected". Learn that first. For more information and to find out why your addition is problematic, see my edit summary. Baranowska's connection to the film, apart from creating the poster, is that she was the director's ex-wife (which is also somewhat in line with the creation of the screenplay from another breakup). I'm the one who wrote and made it a good article, do you really think the questions you're asking make sense? (PS. Baranowska's article was not notable here.) ภץאคгöร 22:43, 5 April 2025 (UTC)