# Talk:Tyla (album)

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I don't think BBC Radio 1Xtra should ever be used for radio dates, because looking at this (archived), what is "Kendrick Lamar - Tracks from 'GNX'"? Should we label all the tracks singles or what? How absurd. dxneo (talk) 02:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm thinking about removing them from the parent album article and leaving them remaining in their respective song articles. I just don't see how two samples can help readers grasp fully what the whole album is about, honestly. I have trouble seeing how text and cover art are inadequate in telling readers about the whole album. George Ho (talk) 19:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello George Ho, I say it's okay to remove the samples, although I feel like "Truth or Dare" is more of her signature "popiano" genre, why not leave "Truth or Dare"? I just don't understand the last sentence, can you elaborate. dxneo (talk) 20:56, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
I just now removed the "Jump" sample from this article.
I'll rephrase the last sentence: The "contextual significance" criterion has a clause saying that omitting a file would detriment readers' understanding of the article subject, e.g. the whole album (which contains a track demonstrated by the sample). In my interpretation, the sample fails to meet that criterion. Honestly, I think the album may be already understood without the remaining sample(s). I just fail to see how omitting this sample would affect what's already understood (contextually) by the cover art and the whole article. George Ho (talk) 22:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Oh okay. What's your suggestion? Remove all the samples? dxneo (talk) 22:38, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
I'll remove the remaining sample from the album article if you don't oppose. Seems that you'd rather leave the samples in the song articles, wouldn't you, thinking that they may contextually signify the respecitve songs? George Ho (talk) 02:44, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

This was never promoted on radio or streaming as a single. Why is it being listed as a single? Because it got a music video? Cool Marc ✉ 19:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

You are absolutely right. Problem is that sources like Rolling Stone called it a fifth single from the album, I guess that's how it got there. Rolling Stone literally calls almost every track a single, they did the same with "Push 2 Start" before it was serviced to radio. There's a video for "Shake Ah", but it's not a single for some reason. To cut this short, I don't think "Breathe Me" is a single; there's no radio date. dxneo (talk) 21:20, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


### Tyla (album)
Previous peer review

Coming from a failed FAC, archived minutes ago. Main issue (if not only) was prose, grammatical errors to be specific. I'm here requesting a third peer review (fifth if we adding coaching). Any constructive comments will be highly appreciated. dxneo (talk) 12:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)


#### Medxvo
multi-platinum certificates - multi-platinum certificates — per MOS:PIPE
"In an interview with Nandi Madida, Tyla said that she wanted to kickstart her album with a South African sound" - shouldn't this be in the first paragraph next to the "musically, ..." sentence?
"It was also released in the United Kingdom" - "It was also released in the United Kingdom"
"She promoted the record by hosting pop-up shows" - Tyla's name should probably be stated here since it is not related to the preceding sentence
"Upon its release, it generally received acclaim from critics" - same issue here
"Tunisia, Papua New Guinea" - "Tunisia and Papua New Guinea"
"It won Newcomer of the Year, Best Pop Album and Female Artist of the Year at the 30th Annual South African Music Awards. It was certified gold in Brazil, Canada, New Zealand and the United States" - shouldn't the placement of these two sentences be reversed since the preceding sentence mentions the commercial performance (peaked at ..... etc)?
"The music video gained popularity in South Africa as it garnered over 930,000 views on YouTube in a month and piqued the interest of executives at Epic Records" - the YouTube views are global views and Epic is an American company so how are those related to its popularity in SA?
"In December 2023, before the album's release, she described it as an "experimental album" - can probably be moved to the composition section as, "Described by Tyla as an "experimental album", Tyla is an amapiano, pop and R&B record that contains elements ..."
"Water" was described as a song ..." - I think this should be attributed to the Uproxx writer (The writer's name should also be added to the citation)
"The fourth song on the album, "Truth or Dare", it is an amapiano recording" - "it" should be removed here
"i's Ed Power wrote" - "The i's Ed Power wrote"
Hi @Dxneo: I wanted to participate in the FAC but noticed that the prose has some problems including those above, and I wrote those down for the purpose of participating in the FAC, but to be honest, I wouldn't be able to support there even if they were solved because of the notable problems, so I'm personally grateful to be able to help you here so that we both feel comfortable. Those are just examples that I have noticed, I'll try to add more soon. Also another thing is that none of AllMusic, Rolling Stone, or Sputnikmusic are added in the professional ratings template, which is kinda strange. Medxvo (talk) 12:50, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello mate, thank you so much. I'll address these after the copyedit. I'll look at your PR soon. dxneo (talk) 18:27, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi @Dxneo: hope you're having a good day, I came to add more comments but I'm not sure that the copyedit is done, feel free to ping me once it's done so I can take another look. In the meantime, I will take a look at your current FLC very soon, and I hope you'll be able to look at my PR soon too. I'm waiting for your comments before closing it :) I wish you all the best! Medxvo (talk) 20:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)


#### FrB.TG
As an FAC coordinator and someone who has taken several music-related articles to FA, I am very familiar with the level of prose quality expected at FAC. If you want, I can give the article a thorough copy-edit. FrB.TG (talk) 12:56, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, FrB.TG, I'd really appreciate it. Please proceed. dxneo (talk) 12:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
A few things I observed during my copy-edits so far.

A big part of my copy-edit so far has included rearranging sentences for a better flow and to keep the same topics in one place.
"The album was ultimately released on 22 March 2024[18] by FAX Records and Epic Records[19] and in the United Kingdom by Since '93 and RCA Records.[20]" Where was it reelased on 22 March 2024? Internationally?
Not sure how I should explain this, but I think the release history would explain it better. It was released internationally or in various countries on 22 March 2024 by FAX and Epic. However, in the UK it was released by Since '93 and RCA. (Different labels, but on the same day). Then there were formats (CD and vinyl), released in the US and South Africa by Epic and Sony Music South Africa respectively. The Japanese edition (CD only) was later released on 7 August 2024.
The article switches a lot from the United Kingdom and United States to the UK and US for no apparent reason. I recommend that you stick to one; my own preference would to use the acronyms.
Noted.
"In October 2023" There needs to be a {{nbsp}} between "October" and "2023" (there are many other examples throughout the article). See WP:NBPS. FrB.TG (talk) 17:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
I've never used this before. Question, how does it work and how does it help? dxneo (talk) 18:22, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
FrB.TG notify me when you are done with copyediting. Thanks! dxneo (talk) 16:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
it might take a few days till I’m finished. I briefly glanced at sections like Reception and it’s gonna take a lot of work there. I’ll explain more later. FrB.TG (talk) 19:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
No problem. dxneo (talk) 23:21, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
"she performed pop-up shows" - what's a "pop-up show"?
The second paragraph of live performances is too long. I tried to copy-edit it a bit but the long run-on sentences are sometimes hard to understand. It's also quite repetitive: "she performed this, then she performed that". Consider varying it a bit and splitting the paragraph into two.
""Art" was accompanied by a music video on the day of the release" - I assume the day of the album's release?
"where it was certified gold by Music Canada" - who is Music Canada? A short introduction would be helpful.
The reception section is repetitive and formulaic, relying heavily on "X said Y" structures and excessive direct quotes, which makes it monotonous. It lacks thematic organization, presenting critiques in a disjointed way rather than grouping similar points, such as genre blending or authenticity. To improve, the reviews should be summarized and arranged by themes, with reduced redundancy and varied sentence structures for better readability and flow. See WP:RECEPTION for more details. FrB.TG (talk) 19:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


#### Query by Z1720
@Dxneo: It has been over a month since the last comment. Is this ready to be nominated at FAC? Z1720 (talk) 16:50, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello Z1720, I'm waiting for FrB.TG to complete the copyedit process. It's not ready just yet. dxneo (talk) 17:22, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
@Dxneo, apologies. I have been busy lately and couldn't get to it. I'll get to it in the next few days I promise. FrB.TG (talk) 16:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you so much. dxneo (talk) 16:29, 12 January 2025 (UTC)