# Talk:Stokesay Castle

I hope nobody objects if I upload a sunnier picture of the castle as the lead picture Mjobling 19:16, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

No, that looks much better. Barney Jenkins 19:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
It's a fortified manor, distinctly not a castle. I haven't deleted it from the castles categories however. --Wetman 14:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you, but why do they call it 'stokesay castle' then??  --Matthewcl375 20:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
The fortified manor house was however a direct development of the castle; it was the next evolutionary stage in building design, as defence became less important and luxury and comfort became more important.  Most castle history books also include fortified manor houses and, ironically the castle which is most people's image of the typical castle, Bodiam Castle is actually a fortified manor house as well --Mjobling 15:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I've never been there but i here it's very pretty and it's one of my favourite british castles.
Does anyone know if there are any regurlar guided tours around the site?  Also, roughly how long does it take to look around it? --Matthewcl375 20:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

It is a lovely place.  As with most English Heritage sites, the tour is self-guided.  You get a computerised handset and enter the numbers as you explore the buildings and grounds. --Mjobling 15:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Isn't that somewhat misleading? Yes, the farm was around by then, but the building as we look at it today is 13th century. 86.132.142.207 (talk) 20:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

According to the Images of England website, the manor house is late 14th century. There is no other source in the article to verify the date, but the article probably needs a rewrite. Nev1 (talk) 20:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I just removed some text that is more or less copied from this source. The copyright violation was in the article for over a year. Nev1 (talk) 21:24, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I've given the article a thorough review - everything should be up to date now. I've two specialist sources left to check over, which I should get hold of the coming 3-4 weeks, and I'll see if they add anything more. Hchc2009 (talk) 09:14, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

DeFacto, I don't think the section can hold any more images, and there is already an image of the gatehouse in it? Hchc2009 (talk) 22:48, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

It seems to me like there is plenty of room for several more images, and pictures add interest to articles. The gatehouse is one of the most charming features of the castle and deserves a better picture than the low resolution one in the article at the moment where it a small part of a wider view. -- DeFacto (talk). 22:54, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
I don't disagree that pictures add interest, although the MOS is clear that they also have to fit within the general volume of text in the article. The article already has 15-16 images though, so in my opinion it is isn't exactly under-imaged at the moment. (I think the rather nice image you've just added, btw, fits in well in that first section.) Hchc2009 (talk) 16:49, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
I found a big space for it in the "Buildings" section, it compliments the prose better there too. What do you think? -- DeFacto (talk). 17:00, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Works for me! Hchc2009 (talk) 17:01, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Under the heading "History: 13th-15th centuries", the penultimate sentence in the second paragraph reads "The Inquisition Post Mortem following John's death revealed that the de Verduns' feofee at Stokesay at the time was Reginald de Grey.  This is confusingly written, and raises the following questions: why is "Post Mortem" capitalized?  Is it referring to a post mortem of John's body, or something else?  If the former, how could a post mortem determine a "feofee", or indeed anything other than something about John's physical person?  What is a "feofee"?  This is the only instance of the word being used in the article, and the only obviously related word is "feodaries", used once, in the following sentence. I would guess that both have something to do with "enfeoff", an obscure English term for granting a fiefdom to someone, but "feofee" and "feodaries" are terms that will be almost entirely unknown to most users of English.  I suggest that both be replaced with more commonly understood terms. Bricology (talk) 20:38, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

It could perhaps be reworded; nothing occurs immediately, so I've settled for adding links to inquisition post mortem (don't think it needs to be capitalised) and feoffee to add a bit more context. Richard Nevell (talk) 23:37, 30 August 2020 (UTC)