# Talk:The Ritz Hotel, London

I seem to remember hearing that the Savoy Hotel was the first in which every room had an ensuite bathroom Mintguy (T)

It appears to me that "the Ritz Hotel" fails the "capitalised 'the' in running text" test, and should probably be moved to Ritz Hotel, as per the naming conventions.  Anyone be strongly opposed?  Alai 23:50, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sounded fair to me, so I've been bold and done it. — Dan | Talk 00:19, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The original is the Ritz Hotel Paris, at least according to the wikipedia entry on it. Strange that "Ritz Hotel" should link to a branch of the original, rather than the original, don't you think? Or if there is a good reason for it, maybe explain this in the article somewhere?

Wikipedia goes for the "most common usuage" first. This is it.

On what grounds was the note that Gary Glitter visited the Ritz "suspected vandalism", because he is now a convict? Wikipedia assumes good faith and Glitter was a big star for many years, so to remove his name because of "suspected vandalism" is not really correct because there is no ground to suspect it is vandalism. If Adolf Hitler was among the people who were regular visitors at this hotel no one would remove his name for "bad taste" (a reason given previously for the removal of Glitters name). If Elton John, Paul McCartney or Elvis Presley’s names had been listed (all major pop stars too) I doubt anyone would be removing their names for "suspect vandalism". Glitter himself said in his 1991 autobiography he was a regular visitor to the Ritz. Wikipedia is not censored, so his name can not be removed for bad taste, or for "suspected" vandalism, when it is not in the context of being so. Thus, I have re-added his name. 74.65.39.59 02:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I see that this removal is continuing even some three years on; Wikipedia is not censored and the information has once again been restored. 92.12.108.142 (talk) 08:10, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
I've just reverted some vandalism and removed Gary Glitter at the same time. Is Glitter really as internationally famous as Churchill and Noel Coward? Firstly the above comment says that he "visited" but you'd added him to a section about celebs who've taken afternoon tea there, secondly where is your source and thirdly lots of famous people will have stayed at the Ritz, we don't need to list them all, why is it important to readers of the article that he went there a few times? Cavie78 (talk) 09:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

If the fire really was notable enough to include in this article (and it probably is, just), then surely it should be a footnote in the History section, not a subheading of its own. To give it its own section seems to be blatant recentism to me. Yeti Hunter (talk) 22:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

It seems to be the case that legal action is taking place against any other businesses called Ritz. It may be hard to assess numbers, but it does appear widespread  Ritz Brighouse also affected no source sorry, and there are others. This should be worth mentioning?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.192.15 (talk) 00:40, 19 February 2017 (UTC) 

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Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 11:47, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I've actually been inside the Ritz before, and the amount of times I've passed it! JAGUAR  11:47, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


### Initial comments
#### Lead
WP:LEADLENGTH is OK, but I would recommend splitting the third paragraph into two since the lead is quite long
If you want to split it, I would recommend doing it at where it starts off with "The Ritz's most widely known facility is the Palm Court..."
I shuffled it around so exterior and interior info is split.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:16, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
"Opened by Swiss hotelier César Ritz in May 1906, eight years after opening the Hôtel Ritz Paris, after a weak beginning the hotel began to gain popularity towards the end of World War I" - slightly choppy, may sound better re-arranged as Opened by Swiss hotelier César Ritz in May 1906, eight years after opening the Hôtel Ritz Paris, The Ritz London began to gain popularity towards the end of World War I after a weak beginning or something similar to that?
yes, it was too long, I've reworded it.
"The interior was designed mainly by London and Paris based designers in the Louis XVI style" - can this be linked to something? Was there a period of Louis XVI's reign like the Elizabethan or Victorian era?
French Decorative styles during the Reign of Louis XVI (1774–91)?
"to resemble bar on the Orient Express" - missing plural? Or is it a bar?
the bar ;-)


#### Body
I've replaced some instances of American Spelling with British Spelling throughout the article
Thankyou.
"while other hotels like the Buckingham Palace" - is this a hotel unrelated to Buckingham Palace?
Reworded, and well-spotted BTW!
"On 4 August 1914, Lady Diana's future husband" - who is Lady Diana?
Added socialite and wikilink
"Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma frequented the Ritz from his time" - "frequently visited"?
frequented is OK, even if a little pedantic nowadays.
"The Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother would also attend " - why not just "The Queen Mother"?
Well, that is her full name, and at that time she'd have been known as Princess Elizabeth herself I think, but I've piped to The Queen Mother anyway.
"In the 1970s, the hotel fell into a turbulent period. Terrorist threats from the IRA" - this is the first mention of the IRA, so it should be written and linked as Irish Republican Army
Indeed.
"There has been criticism because the Ritz has not paid any corporation tax since being taken over by the Barclay twins" - are the twins the current owners? This is the first ever mention of them
They were linked but piped with the company named, I've altered it further up.
"The hotel's flooring was also fireproof" - is it still fireproof or was it only made fireproof during the war?
Still fireproof of course!
" Between the Winter Garden and the central Grand Gallery is a screene featuring two Ionic columns" - no citation for this
Same citation as above I think, moved it down to bottom. Screene was a typo too.
"As of 2015, The Ritz London has a 134 guestrooms" - no need for "a"
removed.
"The hotel is mentioned in the song "A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square" as well as in the song "Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy" (Queen)." - should end with "by Queen" and where is the citation?
Added a citation and changed.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


#### References
Ref 80 is dead
Replaced.


### On hold
It took me ages to read through this article, and am very impressed by how comprehensive and well written it is! I only spotted a few prose issues, and there is one dead ref, but other than that this is so close to meeting the GA criteria. This would make an amazing FA too. JAGUAR  14:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
@Jaguar: Thanks for the review, all addressed I think. Some excellent points here!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:03, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing them! This looks good to go. Another luxury hotel GA  JAGUAR  18:41, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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Article currently contains a section "Allegation of discrimination" about an incident from 2023. Is this undue weight? This is a relatively minor incident in the hotel's 100+ year history. cagliost (talk) 13:22, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Agreed, I wrote the article but didn't write that or recent stuff. I've condensed it and put it in history. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:42, 23 October 2025 (UTC)