# Talk:SMS Moltke (1877)

There is an exceptionally high probability, bordering on absolute certainty, that "SMS Moltke (1877)" cannot possibly be the ship identified in the New York Times and Washington Post as the cholera carrier in 1910/1911.  There is no record, ever, that the Kaiser’s navy farmed out its war ships to transport Italian immigrants in steerage (in empty magazines?) from Naples and other places in the "Italian cholera belt" to the United States.  The ship mentioned in the NYT is the "steamship Moltke;" the Post writes of a "Hamburg-American liner," whatever that might have been.  Further, the renaming to Acheron occurred, according to the external link on the page, with the removal of the ship from active sea duty and demotion to a "hulk."
In my view, the NYT and Washington Post news stories are sufficient to remove the cholera tale and footnotes from this page.  I’ll give it a week or so, then remove it – unless a reputable source is produced that the Kaiserliche Marine was active in the immigrant Italy-to-US charter business.
--Gamahler (talk) 19:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

No reaction.  Removed cholera references and footnotes from the "SMS Moltke (1877)" page.  In the previous version, this ship was clearly misidentified.  She was not the vessel hauling Italian immigrants infected with cholera to New York; whereas (1) she was a naval vessel, and (2) the NYT and WP stories leave no doubt that the type of ship depicted in the news clips was a civilian "steamship" accommodating passengers in different transport classes, including "steerage."
--Gamahler (talk) 18:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Long dead thread, but for the record, this Moltke was out of service by the time in question. Parsecboy (talk) 02:01, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Courcelles (talk · contribs) 02:51, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

May as well finish the class (I think?) Courcelles (talk) 02:51, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
"converted into a barracks ship, and assigned to the U-boat school in Kiel. In October 1911, Moltke was renamed Acheron and converted to serve as barracks ship for U-boat crews at Kiel"  Seems repetative, and we don't need two links to barracks ship and U-Boat in two sentences.
Good catch - I rewrote that a couple of times and forgot to take that out.
Infobox "Draft	502 m (1,647 ft 0 in)"  Obvious typo :)
Haha, that's quite a tall ship
Need to say somewhere in the body that she was the fourth ship to be completed (based on the lead information)
Added
"going to the West indies and concluding on 22 March 1895."  Capitalise Indies here.
Good catch
" were on 7 July she met"  Where.
Fixed
"and Germany feared that unrest in the island would threaten Germans, so she was sent to Havana."  Should likely be explicit as to what island you're talking about.
Good idea
"stopping in Dartmouth to celebrate"  Dartmouth is a dab link.
Fixed
The redlink in "heavy storms forced her to stop in Santandar, Spain." lives at Santander, Spain, I think, though I hesitate due to the slightly different spelling.
I usually go to articles to copy the title to avoid stuff like that, but every once in a while, I say to myself "nah, I can type that correctly"...and here we are.
Nothing but a few nitpicks, really. Courcelles (talk) 03:09, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks again! Parsecboy (talk) 12:29, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Promoting.  Courcelles (talk) 15:27, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

This has some good images for the article, including a nice color illustration. Parsecboy (talk) 10:21, 30 July 2018 (UTC)