# Talk:WKBS-TV (Philadelphia)

I wouldn't call the reference to the game "trivial"; there'a Wiki article on the Kickoff Classic, and this was the first one. Also, it was rather unusual 20+ years ago for a college football game to be played in August (in fact, I think this was the first-ever major college game to be played before September 1), so I thought the article could reflect that. (And remember: just because you consider something "trivial" doesn't mean the rest of us do.) RMc 20:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

As far as WKBS-TV goes, it is a trivial reference.  Previously, someone attempted to add the game's outcome and I deleted those lines as well.  The quote from the former general manager already mentions the participants of the game, and since this happened over 23 years ago, that should be enough.  Who cares if it was the first Kickoff Classic, or what the final score was?  That information should be in the Kickoff Classic page and not here.  Rollosmokes 05:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but I disagree. Let's not split hairs, OK? RMc 22:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I saw it again...I removed it again.  Trivial, trivial, trivial for this article.  Rollosmokes 08:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Whoever keeps adding it, STOP!!! We're just going to remove it over and over again until you do stop. -- M (speak/spoken) 15:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Obviously I'm getting nowhere (and not quickly) with Mr Rollosmokes.RMc 17:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Media, art and literature

By reverting my edits, you're basically saying that's it's OK for Rollosomokes to throw a tantrum because someone dared touch his precious page. It sends a bad signal, yes? All right. Let it end here. RMc 16:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not to imply that it's OK for anyone to throw tantrums over this; however, I do agree that the specifics of what the football game was about is trivial. John 12:43, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Let me see if I have this straight.
1) I add nine words to the WKBS-TV page;
2) Rollosmokes has a hairy conniption fit, insulting me in the process (a common reaction for this guy when someone dares edit "his" pages)); 
3) I respond in kind, and 
4) I get banned for "personal attacks"!
Boy, that's rich. Are you guys all on the same bowling team or something?
This has gone well beyong the WKBS-TV page; there's principle involved here, which I why I keep pursuing it.
I'm going to edit WKBS-TV one last time. The admins have a choice to make:
1) Leave it alone, or
2) Revert it yet again, which sends the message that if a user jumps up and down and waves his arms (and has the right friends), he can get his way.
Your choice, fellas. RMc 11:35, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

While not supporting anyone's uncivil behavior, I think the fact that the football game was the first Kickoff Classic might actually be worth at least a mention and a link (seems I'd be in the minority here. though). If it had been mentioned when the paragraph was first written, it probably would still be there, but because it got added after someone else had earlier added even more trivial information (like the outcome of the game--rightfully deleted), it seems there was a certain prejudice against including any info about the game. I'm not going to edit the page (as I really couldn't care less whether it is in the page or not), but it seems to me that a good compromise would have been just to leave the words "(the first Kickoff Classic)" and delete the reference to Giants Stadium, since that is mentioned in the Kickoff Classic article. DHowell 20:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
That would be fine. RMc 22:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
No matter what way you choose to slice it, it's still a trivial reference for WKBS-TV.  This happened nearly a quarter-century ago.  Who cares if it was the first Kickoff Classic game?  Who cares about the outcome?  Really, who is going to ask a Trivial Pursuit-like question about it in the near future?
No one.  So, it should stay gone and be kept within the Kickoff Classic, Giants Stadium, Pennsylvania State University, and University of Nebraska-Lincoln pages -- but not WKBS-TV.  Rollosmokes 06:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Boy, you just won't let it go, will you? "I am the king of the WKBS-TV page! Bow before me, pigs!" Pathetic. RMc 12:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
DHowell's proposal seems just fine to me. I agree the reference may still be trivial, but at least this brief mention isn't cluttering the article. No reason it can't be included. Firsfron of Ronchester 20:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:WKBS.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 10:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:Trek on wkbs.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Wkbs.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

WKBS-TV's official city of license was Burlington, New Jersey, so shouldn't the title of the article be WKBS-TV (Burlington, NJ)?  I'm not going to move the article, I will leave it up to everyone else, if most agree with me, then it should be moved, if not, it should stay put. John (talk)