# Talk:Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)

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Reviewer: Keilana (talk · contribs) 01:05, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi! Here's what I think needs to be done with the article; I've organized it by section for your ease of use. I've watchlisted this page, so if you have any questions or if you disagree with what I've suggested, you can poke me here or on my talk page. Nice work! I'm impressed. Keilana|Parlez ici 01:05, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


### Lead
There should be an "and" before "Greg Kurstin". You could change the comma to a semicolon and say "it was produced by Kurstin" or something to that effect.
Done Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
No comma necessary after "RCA Records".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
Put "a" before "vibrant beat".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
The sentence "The song is considered as an anthem for recovery after the end of a bad relationship" sits funny with me, perhaps you could reword it as "The song has been received as an anthem for recovery after the end of a bad relationship" or something.
Quite done. But I reworded it with "empowerment and recovery" as it inspired cancer patients, too. Is this okay? Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
In "it became her third song", I would change "her" to "Clarkson" and change "making Clarkson the first" to "making her the first". That way, the antecedent is the most clear.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"the theme of a global flash mob which features worldwide fan involvement" is redundant.
I rewrote it to "It incorporates the theme of a global flash mob." Please check. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:42, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
"positive receptions" should be singular.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:42, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
Can an impact really be joyful and fun? Consider rewording.
Done. But I changed it to exuberant instead. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"in several live appearances" should be something like "during several live appearances"
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done


### Background and release
You need an "and" before "Greg Kurstin".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"coronation" is too lionizing for my taste.
Done. I changed it to "after winning the first season" Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
The sentence beginning "The song was inspired" needs a rewrite.
I changed it to "infused". Should I rewrite it again? Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Ditto with the one beginning "In July 2011".
I removed it. Should I reword it instead? Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
"the song's empowerment and uplifting theme" should be rewritten, something like "the song's uplifting theme of empowerment"
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
The phrase "officially impacted" is a little PR-y, maybe "officially released to" instead.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done


### Composition
"where Clarkson's vocals" doesn't make sense, this should be something like "and Clarkson's vocals" or "; Clarkson's vocals"
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"rumbling guitar" and "shimmering synth" - these should be in quotations.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"which narrates an anthem of personal reinvention, and dancing". This doesn't make sense to me.
"vibrant beat" is repeated again here and I feel like it's a little much. Ditto with "pulsating".
I rewrote it to "pulsating beats". Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
"display" should be "displays".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"ginormous chorus" needs to be in quotes if it's a quotation from the source, or reworded. It's not encyclopedic as it stands.
Done. It was quoted from the source. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"Lyrically, the song is about moving on from a nasty ex who won't leave you alone." needs to be rewritten in a more formal style and in the third person.
I changed it to "Lyrically, the song explores the theme of moving on from an inimical relationship" Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
Who considers it "an anthem for recovery after the end of a bad relationship" and why?
I removed it instead because it seemed redundant after the previous sentence. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
The sentence beginning "According to Clarkson..." needs a rewrite.
I changed it to "In an interview, Clarkson remarked" Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done


### Critical reception
In the second sentence of Grady Smith's review, the song title should be in single quotes.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"Glenn Gamboa from Newsday" should be "Glenn Gamboa of Newsday".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
Please don't call her "Kelly", change any instances of that to "Clarkson" or "her".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"Otherwise the majority of the critics" doesn't make sense.
Removed it. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
There should not be "a" before "tailor-made".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done


### Chart performance
You need a "the" before "Billboard Hot 100".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"It also becomes Clarkson's first song" should be "It also became Clarkson's first song".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"has peaked" should be just "peaked".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
Is there a citation for it being number 8 for 3 consecutive weeks?
I inserted citations for it. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"it has peaked at number 18" should be "it peaked at number 18".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done


### Music video
"The scenes are shown alternately for about half way through with a variety of montage that show people from various places performing the same dance routine." and "The final scene shows Clarkson and the crowd disperse as the song comes to an end." need to be rewritten.
Rewritten. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
"Critical receptions toward the music video have been positive" should be "critical reception towards the music video has been positive".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"She loved the video's different approach" - make this more formal.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"Leah Collins of The Vancouver Sun interpreted that the video depicts Clarkson who develops strength and endurance as well as the ability to lead a large-scale dance routine after surviving a trauma" is very clunky.
Rewrote it. But please check if it's still clunky. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
"gave a positive response towards the video" should be "had a positive response to the video".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"the overall impact of the music video was joyful fun" - this doesn't make sense to me.
I've put quotation marks on it as it was just quoted by the source. Is this okay? Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


### Live performances and usage in media
"special concert at The Troubador in Los Angeles on October 19, 2011 to promote the album." is clunky, please rewrite.
I rewrote it. But please do check on it again. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
" on Z100's annual Jingle Ball concert " should be "at Z100's..."
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"Dancing with the Stars on May 22, 2012" should only have "Dancing with the Stars" italicized.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"the 2012 Toyota" should be "a 2012 Toyota"
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
You need a comma after "Andrew Zimmern", "Joshua Ledet", and "Naya Rivera" if you prefer the Oxford comma. I do, but if you don't, it's no big deal.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"together with the Troubletones" breaks the sentence up weirdly. Consider moving it or transitioning differently.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
You start two sentences with "the song", maybe change one of them.
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
Should "dancing the song" be "dancing to the song"?
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"The video a viral hit" should be "the video was a viral hit"
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
You need a "the" before "Finnish television series".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"it was then performed" - "then" is unnecessary here
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
"danced the song" should be "danced to the song".
Done. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)  Done
That's all I have, I'll check back with you if you have questions or take care of all this. Thanks for your time!

I think I can do this (the nominator is ausent), but until 4 June. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 21:51, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
I revised it now, please check. Woofygoodbird (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Would you mind if I made some? Because there are some really worrying things. Aaron • You Da One 10:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

American Songwriter has uploaded an interview with one of the song's writers, Ali Tamposi: [6]. We might want to archive the link as it could become dead soon. 五代 (talk) 16:06, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

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