# Talk:Start All Over

I think Wikipedia should keep this article because it is a very important article to link to the soundtrack page. 66.217.104.227 (talk) 22:43, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

 Done It was kept and since I revamped the entire article, I'm am positive it will not be nominated for deletion again. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I added a citation needed tag to this sentence—"It is a Radio Disney only single that was released to Radio Disney due to not being able to play "See You Again", which was very popular at the time."—because the claim looked a little odd to me, but the tag was removed. Ideally everything should be cited, so it shouldn't be a problem to add a citation needed tag. I found the sentence questionable because: A) the song has a video that premiered on MuchMusic, so it seems strange that it could be considered exclusive to Radio Disney (and since it is her first real video to date, doesn't that suggest that the song is intended to get mainstream play?); and B) it is claimed that Radio Disney could not play "See You Again", but I don't understand why this would be the case. Everyking (talk) 06:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

The music video for Start All Over has so far peaked at number 7 on the Australian iTunes music store. I don't think it's relevant to this article, but I've seen it mentioned in a couple of places...
 Not done The song did not receive any mainstream airplay as of 2009, pretty sure it is not going to start now. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
This sentence in the article is confusing to me:
"Start All Over" received mediocre airplay due to exclusive airplay on Radio Disney. [bold for discussion emphasis only]
Upon first reading I thought it meant that it received "mediocre" MAINSTREAM airplay, because it was overexposed on Radio Disney. The word "airplay" appearing twice made me think there was two kinds of airplay being discussed.
Then I saw ^ "The song did not receive any mainstream airplay as of 2009..."
So I 'thought' an inconsistency existed, between #1 "mediocre" MAINSTREAM airplay & #2 NO mainstream airplay.
Now I see the "exclusive airplay on Radio Disney." part. So if it is "exclusive" to them, there could be NO airplay by others.
For clarity, I'm editing it to: "Start All Over" received exclusive airplay on Radio Disney. [bold for discussion emphasis only]. Also it is probably better to not show the word, "mediocre" as there is no standard to measure this against and may be regarded as a POV.
I  hope this is agreeable. :) —Iknow23 (talk) 23:18, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Keep "All Eyes On Me" off of the next single spot until it is confirmed. I find it hard to believe that a single has already been confirmed for a film that is still at least 10-13 months away. Tcatron565 (talk) 22:58, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

What film?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meliss402 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 Done Not the next single and that was not sourced. Plus, what movie? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I saw a Jonas Brother playing guitar in this music video.  Isn't this notable because Hannah Montanna and the Jonas Brothers are collaborating on a huge concert tour. 69.135.187.163 (talk) 02:17, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

 Not done That is untrue. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The video at reference 20 that's displays as:
20. ^ab "Start All Over". Disney.com. The Walt Disney Company. Retrieved October 18, 2009.
won't play? It plays the commercial than nothing else? :( —Iknow23 (talk) 04:55, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Dead link template added to article. —Iknow23 (talk) 01:36, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
I was disappointed. I wanted to see it. —Iknow23 (talk) 20:34, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
RESOLVED I see that the reference with the dead link has been removed. —Iknow23 (talk) 20:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I am unsure whether is it appropriate to list a "Guest single" as shown at Template:Miley Cyrus singles as HER "Last single" in infobox?? Any thoughts?—Iknow23 (talk) 23:17, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean and how does this relate to the article? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Click here >Template:Miley Cyrus singles"Ready, Set, Don't Go (with Billy Ray Cyrus)" is listed as a "Guest single" of Miley Cyrus. Like when a singer is "featured" on someone else's album, you don't say that the song is the "featured" performer's song do you? Doesn't it count as the "Main" performer's song? UNLESS it is a joint release, being that the song appears on BOTH performers albums. So is it appropriate to put it in the infobox section "Miley Cyrus singles chronology" as HER "Last single"??Or is "See You Again" better like how it was listed before?? —Iknow23 (talk) 00:33, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I understand now. And since her vocals were on it when it was released as a single it should be on her chronology... check anywhere. Like Just Dance which is a GA like this one. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 19:10, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Still unsure about that, but just found a new issue. There is inconsistency within the "Start All Over" article.
The song garnered low commercial outcomes for Cyrus in several countries, compared to those of her previous single "See You Again."  ^Bold for emphasis onlyBut the infobox shows "Ready, Set, Don't Go" as her previous single?—Iknow23 (talk) 01:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing that out. I'll correct that. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome :) —Iknow23 (talk) 07:04, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Start All Over's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ukchart":
From Fly on the Wall (song): "Chart Stats - Miley Cyrus - Fly on the Wall". Chart Stats.com. The Official Charts Company. January 1, 2009. Retrieved September 27, 2009.
From Butterfly Fly Away: "Chart Stats – Miley Cyrus – Butterfly Fly Away". Chartstats.com. The Official Charts Company. Retrieved November 10, 2009.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 08:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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Is there any source that states this was released to US radio?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.7.255.129 (talk) 23:20, 27 July 2018 (UTC) 

If you have a source which says that the song was not recorded in 2007 (or indeed, that the album was not recorded in 2007), please provide it. There is nothing in the article currently which says that it was not recorded in 2007; in fact all the evidence leads me to believe that it was recorded in 2007: since the video was recorded in November 2007, it debuted on the charts in January 2008... RandomCanadian (talk | contribs)  22:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian: I only saw this after accepting the last revision. However, I stand by my acceptance of that revision because my understanding is that we don't include content in a Wikipedia article based on what "the evidence leads me to believe". We include content based on what published, reliable, secondary sources say. I find it hard to see how the recording year would be included in the article purely based on editors' guesses. It is not the end of the world if certain infobox parameters are left blank. Hillelfrei talk  01:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I figured that part. However, the IP also objected to having "2007 (video)" (claiming this is a song and that the video is irrelevant) which is clearly cited in the article... RandomCanadian (talk | contribs)  01:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC) @Hillelfrei: (correcting once more) RandomCanadian (talk | contribs)  01:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
@RandomCanadian: The IP does have a point because that specific infobox parameter is intended to include the year the song was recorded, not the date the video was released. But I hear what your saying. I won't protest if you re-add it. Hillelfrei talk  01:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
In that case I don't have a problem with letting it be in it's current state. Anyway, I have more pressing and bigger fish to fry. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk | contribs)  01:42, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
@RandomCanadian 41.114.206.40 (talk) 16:02, 23 March 2023 (UTC)