# Talk:Spit (album)

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The singles' pages are now redirects to the album. They contained the following information, in case someone wants to add it to the article:


### Brackish
"Brackish" is a song by Kittie, released as the first single from their album Spit.


#### Track listing
"Brackish" (3:06)
"Da Shit Ya Can't Fuc Wit" (2:16)
"Charlotte" (Alternate Mellow Version) (3:53)


#### Video
Video: Brackish (3:02)
Video Directed By: Candave Corelli, Juli Berg
Video Producers: Laurel Harris, Michael Santorelli


### Charlotte
"Charlotte" is a song by all-woman aggro metal band Kittie, released as their second single from their album Spit.


#### Tracklist
"Charlotte - Alternate Mellow Version"
"Suck - Live"
"Spit - Live"
"Charlotte - Alge Remix Radio Edit"

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Something in the article needs to talk about how she left the band after recording and how Talena Atfield joined afterward. dannymusiceditor  Speak up!  16:19, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

I was going to start it myself, but I figured it might be better done by Statik N, the article's main writer.
Anyways, the lead/intro needs to be reorganized a bit. A lot of the information is good, it's just that the ideas aren't really grouped together very well. For example, looking at what it looks like at the time of writing this:
In this order, it mentions:

Album release date of Jan 2000.
Band forming in 1996.
Band signed to label in 1999.
Album recorded in 1999.
Album certified Gold in 2000.
Album finished in 1999.
Album delay lead to release 2000.
Tour was in 2001.
Conceptually and chronologically, it jumps all over the place. Similarly, the critical and commercial reception are mentioned in different paragraphs.
I'll leave it up to you on how you want to reorganize, but you probably want to rework it so things flow more in chronological order, similar ideas are mentioned together, and some of the sentences can probably be merged together or cut out. (ie it mentions being recorded in 1999 twice.) Sergecross73 msg me 17:21, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Improved the lead. What do you think of it? Statik N (talk) 20:37, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
It's...a step in the right direction...but I don't feel like its fully fixed... Sergecross73 msg me 14:00, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
What else should I work on? Statik N (talk) 22:10, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


### Spit (album)
hola. i have retrofitted the page, mostly from the ground up but with a lot taken from previous versions, for a number of reasons:

irrelevant references/tighter writing with restraint; a lot of mess from the previous 2 years worth of attempts (work commenced in march 2023). some stuff was no longer needed but bc of confusing transition to bibliography things got messy. my bad
history/chronology issues: a lot of new details kept creepin in as time went on after after juggernaut 3 came in mail i realised a lot had to be redone here. i.e. now we know talena does in fact play on album and morgan plays bass also?????? wild
more better/musical commentary; i.e. not just "they're girls and they're killing it, they're girls and they're killing it" bc that was playing into the exact stuff they (kittie) complained about at the time
better commentary/aftermath: see point 1. also: my viewpoint on a lot of things has changed; i was 19 when i began, now im 21, and a lot of what to do and not do, and where i stand/understanding what i am supposed to do, has been learnt in between.
referencing issues from before i was in: i.e. "washington post suppelement" was band's press bio. other stuff clarified also. a lot of sources removed/replaced bc they were random online blogs, mostly replaced w newspapers. many of the newspapers are accessible via wikipedia library.
for further exposition on this article from me, see here. idk if this is good but in the end i am trying and that's what counts, right? // Chchcheckit (talk) 20:06, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

also: i would like to thank User:MFTP Dan for help/suggestions // Chchcheckit (talk) 20:09, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

In the 2 years I have been working there has been much confusion surrounding when Spit was released. As far as I am aware, the album was supposed to be released on October 19, 1999. I have numerous sources where Kittie talks about the delays to January 2000 because Candler left. Also; talk of some initial shipment of 8,000 copies in London Groove Machine 2014 is confusing; spit's first week sales were 8,800 meaning if this were the case it would have charted then, which it didn't. Also per discogs and ebay listing all releases of the original cover have the advance CD sticker attatched, again suggesting these are promotional copies. In other words I don't know where the hell "november 13 1999" came from when in a number of contemporary sources its delay from october to january. also im too tired rn but here is this student newspaper review in october 14, 1999 which eexplicitly states: "Their new album has been delayed to early next year [2000]. probably around January. Ng Records just recently received news that the CDs wont go into full production yet". 
I am mad at the contradictions. if anyone needs MORE sources then i will provide. literally. // Chchcheckit (talk) 00:36, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

ps The Oswegonian is from new york Chchcheckit (talk) 00:37, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
also by explaining in depth when promos were sent out i hope(d) to eludicate why spit gets early press from that time. regardless of when the hell this album actually came out. Chchcheckit (talk) 00:49, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
update; more confusion. found a source that lists the release date as november 2, 1999. // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:25, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
ok here's a more refined timeline of release date confusion
October 19, 1999 (planned release date; delayed because Candler left on September 24, 1999)
November 2, 1999 (mentioned in Metal Edge source linked above)
November 13, 1999 (from Kittie's facebook page, but this is a monday....at a time when most albums are released on tuesday. therefore I consider this somewhat dubious)
January 11, 2000 (official release date)
I have seen a fansite that received a promo copy in November 1999 but again, read; promo.
From what I have seen the initial pressing was reported as 8,000 copies in Horn 2003 and LGM 2014, however in later sources they've given the number as 5,000 so i really have no idea. There's a real lack of coverage/sourcing that makes this confusing.
// Chchcheckit (talk) 12:10, 4 August 2025 (UTC)