# Talk:Wighard

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Reviewer: Jay Σεβαστόςdiscuss 14:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Greetings to all, especially to Ealdgyth for nominating it and more importantly for improving and expanding the article so much. Certainly no quick-fail criteria apply, so I'll get straight down to a detailed review. Best. Jay Σεβαστόςdiscuss 14:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)


### Detailed Review
It's probably a crap-shoot either way, honestly. Blair thinks he was consecrated. He was certainly considered one by most later commentators - but on the other hand, most seem to feel he wasn't consecrated. Things are a bit more fluid in this period of the middle ages, so if you're insistent I'll change to 'elect" but otherwise, given Blair, I'm more inclined to be inclusive. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:24, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

reworded the objecting sentence to: "His death possibly occurred around 664,[10] but may have been as late as 667. It may have been caused by the bubonic plague,[5] or perhaps was due to some other disease epidemic." Ealdgyth - Talk 19:37, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Kent is linked in the lead (and the second usage is consistent with that linkage - it's referring to the region, not the kingdom here), linked York to Diocese of York, linked consecration, just removed canonically, as it was fluff. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:42, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Got Mercia too, forgot to mention that. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:42, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
How about something like this for the lead (roughly - I am sure it can be worded better still): Wighard was a mediaeval archbishop-elect of Canterbury. Inconsistencies between various works have led to confusion about whether he was ever consecrated by Pope Vitalian. What little is known... and the rest. This way we are definitely telling the truth - he was definitely an archbishop-elect, whether consecrated or not. Jay Σεβαστόςdiscuss 19:46, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
We could even put in the fact that he might have been the seventh e.g. ...he was ever consecrated by Pope Vitalian as the seventh Archbishop of Canterbury. Jay Σεβαστόςdiscuss 19:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
See if what I just tried works better for you? Ealdgyth - Talk 19:56, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I like that. I don't have very strong views on the matter, but if we are changing it to how it is (which I think is better), should we also change the infobox title? Also, not that it matters terribly, what are your view on capitalising the first letters in the infobox? There doesn't seem to be much consistency regarding this on the site, and I couldn't find anything in the MoS referring to it. Personally, I think that capitalising it looks better, but I guess that's just my opinion.  Also, I think that it might be an idea to put in something in the lead about the pronunciation of the word - I'll definitely leave that to you! Otherwise, I think it's pretty awesome. Jay Σεβαστόςdiscuss 20:06, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
I dont know enough about IPA to even dream of doing a pronuciation in the lead. Changed the title in the infobox, and I've just been leaving non-sentences in the infoboxes uncapitalized. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:17, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
It's not necessary, but it might help. Anyhow, I think it passes now. Great job! Jay Σεβαστόςdiscuss 20:34, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I see rather than address the issue that it's trivia, this section has just been editwarred back in. First, it's implying that Wighard went to the Synod of Whitby - it's unclear if he did or not. Second, it's trivia and tells us nothing about Wighard. Third, it's unsourced. The proper response when something you add is removed is not to readd it but to address the issues raised on the talk page. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I agree - it isn't backed by secondary sources explaining what this tells us about Wighard as a subject. Hchc2009 (talk) 17:11, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Indeed.  Trivia and irrelevant.  Once these fictional references sections start, they balloon like a festering boil.  Montanabw(talk) 18:14, 1 April 2014 (UTC)