# Talk:Tolkien's artwork

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Reviewer: Aza24 (talk · contribs) 00:38, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Nice to see your determination in improving so many Tolkien articles – this one especially caught my eye. Expect comments soon! - Aza24 (talk) 00:38, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks for taking this on, and for the kind words. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:37, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


### Types of artwork (formatting)
"Artwork" is probably more to the point than "Types of artwork"
Hmm. I tried it (see the edit history) but the section actually goes through the different types that he created. The obvious problem with the short name is that it sounds redundant with the article title, which actually it is not. We could call it "Types of work produced", which is its import, so perhaps shortening it is going in the wrong direction.
(I'll move the bulk of the conversation here) The main issue with labeling the section "types of artwork" is that is not really what it is. That is to say that "Types of artwork" would imply that the subsections to be something like "Drawings" "Paintings" "watercolors" "maps" when at the moment they are not split up as such. Another option might be to have something like this:
==Sketches and paintings from life== (This section in particular would make more sense as something like "Early works" since "from life" applies to everything in his life and "Sketches and paintings from early life" would be a mouthful)
## Individual books
### The Hobbit=
### The Lord of the Rings
### The Book of Mazarbul
### The Doors of Durin
### The Silmarillion
and then I would keep the next two seperate

## Maps
## Calligraphy
If you'd rather not combine the the "Sketches and paintings from life" and influences then I think you're right about the influences section being awkwardly placed if at the beginning of the article, so feel free to move it back. I'm more than willing to discuss these points further so please don't feel pressure into agreeing with me to "pass the GA" or anything, you're the subject expert here! Aza24 (talk) 23:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Well I may have some knowledge of Tolkien-ology but little about organising art articles. The sketches are however more or less the only things he did "from life", as all the illustrations are fictional, "from imagination", fantasy, though no doubt based on knowledge of the appearance of trees, mountains, and so on. It is also true they are early work, and as these are sharply separate, and formative of his ability to draw, it makes sense to pull them out and have a separate 'for his books' section. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:18, 29 July 2020 (UTC)


#### Types of artwork (Sections)
More soon, interesting read so far! Aza24 (talk) 23:45, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:15, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


#### The Silmarillion to Reception
I don't have much to say about these sections, they're very well and concisely written, so these are suggests that you can take at your own discretion:

I see that Númenórean redirects to "Númenor#culture", would that link be appropriate here too for Númenórean? (or perhaps not since Númenor is linked right after)
Yes, same article. I've linked the first instance.
Maybe "his characters" could be linked to Middle-earth peoples or List of Middle-earth characters
Done.
Medieval manuscripts link to Illuminated manuscript instead?
Good idea, done.
The reception section is looking good – no comments there Aza24 (talk) 04:15, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Great!
Good work here, any issues have been resolved/addresses. I've run it by the GA criteria and this article looks good. Passing now Aza24 (talk) 23:40, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Side note, I'm sure you have a lot of pending tasks, but it looks like the Artwork section on Tolkien's article has a note that it "needs expansion" – if you get a chance I'm sure you could easily use this article do to so! Aza24 (talk) 23:45, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap: I thought I might ping you since you're the main author, in case this page isn't on your watchlist. I was going to move this article to "Artwork of J. R. R. Tolkien" (with a redirect of course), but wanted your input. Please ping in replies. Sincerely, Ovinus (talk) 12:15, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Another name could be "J. R. R. Tolkien's artwork". I'm just not sure whether "Tolkien's artwork" is sufficiently precise. J. R. R. Tolkien's influences for example. Ovinus (talk) 12:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, J. R. R. Tolkien's artwork would match the influences article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:40, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
I think moving the page to J. R. R. Tolkien's artwork would definitely be a good idea to match other pages with his name in them. Dour1234 (talk) 09:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)