# Talk:Sauron

I noticed that "Fictional characters who use magic" was removed from the list of categories. ZFT (talk) 03:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

There is no enthusiasm on this WikiProject, or most likely on many others, to add a mass of vaguely-relevant categories to every character article. Even the word "magic" is pretty flaky in this context, as Tolkien never used it without several pairs of invisible inverted commas around it. Evil, powerful, Dark Lord, ok; beyond that, dubious. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

… ought perhaps to link to Tybalt —Tamfang (talk) 04:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

It might be ok to link it to an article on the name (hmm, not sure), but for the Shakespearean character, we'd definitely need a source to make that specific Shakespeare's influence on Tolkien connection. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
@Chiswick Chap Is the influence from Shakespeare, or from Reynard the Fox? The source, of course, would determine that. -- Verbarson  talkedits 08:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Without a source it's all WP:OR. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

User:Dimadick has repeated the behaviour that has been objected to over at Talk:Éowyn on this talk page. Since what editors on this WikiProject see as the error of this behaviour as identical in the two cases, could we please have a single discussion over there, rather than repeating it here (or anywhere else), and certainly rather than continuing it across the WikiProject. Many thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:41, 3 February 2025 (UTC)