# Talk:History of the British 1st Division (1809–1909)

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TO say the 1st division had a very long history is misleading, since during the C19th there was a succession of divisions formed in the British army  in the course of  successive campaigns, each  of which was identified as the '1st Division' being the first in the order of battle, nothing more. 
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There was an RFC to discuss potential restructures to this and the 1st (United Kingdom) Division articles. However, the RFP ended without any consensus being reached. Rather than the info end-up being buried in the MILHIST archives, the sources have been copied to the latter article's talk page, see: Talk:1st (United_Kingdom) Division#Division's historyEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 08:49, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:History of the British 1st Division 1809–1909/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 11:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

 
I'll get to this shortly.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 11:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Images properly licensed
The article title reads strangely to me... "between 1809–1809" should either drop the "between" entirely or change to "between 1809 and 1909. I'd prefer the former as the between seems redundant
Updated per your suggestionEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Set off William Stewart with commas
FixedEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Capitalize Allied in allied army and link it
Slight rewording and added a link. The Talavera OOB article calls this formation the Anglo-Spanish Army, although if I am not completely mistaken the British divisions formed part of the Anglo-Portuguese Army. Oman, for example, refers to both. However, in his OOB and casualty section he lists the British as separate to the Spanish with troops detachments in Portugal and elsewhere; the Spanish force is referenced as the Army of Estremadura.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
repulsed several cavalry and infantry attacks suggest "several attacks by cavalry in infantry"
UpdatedEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
where it was reorganised into divisions "they" to agree with the earlier "forces"
UpdatedEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
In June, the division operated to trap the elusive operated?
I have reworded this, but I was just trying to convey they were dispatched after Boer commandos.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
were radically changed reorganised
UpdatedEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
You've got at least one reference that isn't used in the article. Purge them or move them to further reading.
I double checked them all and could only find one reference, which I have removed.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Nicely done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:14, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in getting to this and also breaking the links by moving the page (thanks for the fix, Hog!). Thank you for your time, review, and comments. I have attempted to address all the issues you raised.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

I don't understand. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 00:19, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

With the 2nd Division, I did the one article to cover everything approach and it came out at over 100k in size. That division, when compared to this one, was not as active in say the Second World War and was not involved in later conflicts. WP: Size suggests splitting off articles after they pass the 50k mark. So, the primary article for the 1st Division, in this case 1st (United Kingdom) Division article, is already around 40k in size and does not yet really cover the Gulf and Iraq wars. The article covering the world wars is also over 50k already, with little information about their First World War activities and little information about the fighting after Anzio. This article is, likewise, over 50k. Sure, some book citations would be merged if everything came together, but on the whole there is just too much content to provide a decent overview and be squished into one article.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 02:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)