# Talk:De Lackner HZ-1 Aerocycle

Interesting article. I think some of the details about captain Sundby are a bit excessive. I propose changing:

Captain Sundby was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for his test-flying work with the HZ-1,[1] going on to test-fly the H-21 and H-34 helicopters, as well as seeing combat in the Vietnam War before retiring with the rank of Colonel.[12]
to simply

Captain Sundby was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for his test-flying work with the HZ-1,[1].
I don't mean to be pedantic, but Sundby's later career should probably be covered in a seperate article or not at all. Thanks. --188.126.207.212 (talk) 11:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! I might see if I can get enough info on Sundby to spin off a bio page for him. :) - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 16:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

As an infrequent editor, I am a little unsure as to what qualifies as a verifiable source, especially with regard to the entry I made that the Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum had acquired the prototype HZ-1 (specifically the DH-4) with the civil registration N64N.  As the museum's curator, am I not a verifiable source (or am I considered original research?) or do I have to have someone add the information and quote me for it to be verified?  We have the DH-4 (and paid the owners of former deLackner factory $10K for it) and have it currently in our restoration shop. I have photos of the actual artifact to back it up.  I'm just curious as to how to do it so that we let people know that two of these flying machines survive, not just the one at Ft. Eustis? Swbailey97128 (talk) 00:40, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

What you need to do is to have a published source - say, a local newspaper article announcing that the aircraft is in your collection. It doesn't have to be online, but it does have to have been published, and third-party sources are preferable (however, I believe in the case of an "artifact X is in museum Y" citation, the museum itself can be cited; if you have a webpage on the museum's official site that features the de Lackner, then that would be OK). - The Bushranger One ping only 02:51, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Bushranger, thanks so much for the help.  As I said, I only want researchers to know that we are lucky enough to have two of these left, not just the one at Ft. Eustis.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swbailey97128 (talk • contribs) 22:53, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
As of July 2025, the Evergreen Museum doesn't have any pages listing the HZ-1/DH-4 Aerocycle. I was able to find several different blogging sites with pictures of the Evergreen's machine as restored and on display in their exhibit halls. But, none of those pages qualify as reliable sources.Hyperwarpgoat (talk) 05:36, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

Can you link a few of them? Some may be reliable enough to cite the simple factual statement. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:47, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

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