# Talk:Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

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– Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I’d like to propose adding details about the Persian dubs of GTA San Andreas and GTA Vice City to their articles:
GTA San Andreas: Add to "Localization" or "Reception": "The Persian dub, released between 2003 and 2004, became a cultural phenomenon in Iran, featuring over 37,800 dialogues. Produced by Saeid Gholami with Esmaeil Ganjiazar voicing CJ, it has millions of YouTube views and iconic lines like 'Pedal, you trash!' resonating across generations." Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4nUWQTp6Sc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuseWd9TsqM
GTA Vice City: Add to "Reception": "The Persian dub featured Saeid Gholami as the voice of Tommy Vercetti, marking an early success in Iran’s gaming localization scene." Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4nUWQTp6Sc
Full Details:
Comprehensive Information on the Famous Persian Dub of GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas
Sources:
•	First Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4nUWQTp6Sc (March 2024 - Esfand 1402)
•	Second Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuseWd9TsqM (Date unspecified, post-first interview)
•	Gamotion Art Page:
o	Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gamotionart
o	YouTube: https://youtube.com/@gamotionart
Description: Information extracted from both interviews, supplemented with logical details and updated with social media links.
Section 1: Saeid Gholami (Producer of the Famous Persian Dub of GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas)
•	Role:
o	Producer and sponsor of the Persian dubs for GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas.
o	Manager of Pars Game (active in dubbing these games) and later Cyber Game.
•	Social Media:
o	Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saeid.gholami27
•	Start of Dubbing Career:
o	Began in 2002 (1381) with FIFA 2001; GTA Vice City likely started in early 2003 (1382), and GTA San Andreas in late 2003 or early 2004 (1383).
•	Historical Context:
o	Peak of PlayStation 2 in Iran (2002-2006), weak internet (128 KB ADSL), CDs as the primary medium, no copyright enforcement.
•	GTA Vice City Details:
o	Voice Actor: Tommy Vercetti (main character) and possibly another character (likely Mercedes, referred to as his "childhood crush").
o	Work Scope: 2 CDs, simpler than San Andreas, easier file access.
o	Success: Well-received, financially successful, CDs often failed but were re-burned and sold.
o	His Opinion: Felt his Vice City performance lacked emotion, didn’t like his own voice, decided not to continue.
•	GTA San Andreas Details:
o	Start: Late 2003 or early 2004 (proposed to Ganjiazar).
o	Duration: Over 1 year (2003-2005), an exhaustive project.
o	Work Scope: 62,000 audio files, 37,800 dialogues (19 hours).
o	Investment: Sold his 1992 Mitsubishi Galant (thought it’d pay off, but it didn’t).
o	Physical Package: 6 CDs, manual with cheat codes, yellow factory packaging, initial price 6,000 IRR.
o	Voice Actor: A casino character (possibly a card dealer in Las Venturas).
o	Financial Loss: Widespread illegal copying (exported to Afghanistan), no profit, heavy loss.
•	Memories:
o	Vice City: Positive financial vibe.
o	San Andreas: Bitter feeling (lost his car), but after 20 years, public love on Instagram and YouTube cheered him up.
o	Second Interview: “I sold my Galant, you guys get excited, I’d slap you to make you get it!” (joking with regret).
•	Current Opinion:
o	Regrets lack of legal support, admires official Prince of Persia dub, open to new projects with legal backing and fan energy (no car now).
•	Second Interview:
o	Reunited with Ganjiazar and others after 20 years, pranked Ganjiazar in the office (pillow under blanket scare).
Section 2: Esmaeil Ganjiazar (Voice Actor of CJ in the Classic, Famous, and Beloved Persian Dub of GTA San Andreas)
•	Role:
o	Main voice actor and technical lead for GTA San Andreas.
o	As of March 2024, around 45 years old (born ~1979), living in England.
•	Social Media:
o	Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/izma2021
o	YouTube: https://m.youtube.com/@IsmaAzar (started after Gamotion’s insistence, answers fan questions).
•	Roles in GTA San Andreas:
o	CJ (Carl Johnson): Iconic voice.
o	Big Smoke: “As it says in the Holy Book,” loved it.
o	OG Loc: “CJ, he stole my rhyme book,” favorite gangster.
o	Emmet: Arms dealer, minimal lines.
o	Eddie Pulaski: “Don’t think you can mess up the West Side,” corrupt cop with Tenpenny.
o	NPCs: Some voices, pitch-shifted.
•	Technical Details:
o	Start: Late 2003 or early 2004, cracked files with a Russian hacker via Yahoo Messenger.
o	Work Scope: 37,800 dialogues, over 1 year.
o	Translation: Fluent in English, self-translated, added fun improv (e.g., “Pedal, you trash!”).
o	Challenges: Numeric files (e.g., 0054), no visuals, only audio diagrams.
•	Memories:
o	Lived with the game for 2-3 years, used cheat codes, dreamed of it.
o	Second Interview: Reunited old friends, Gholami scared him, pushed Hatami hard for Sweet’s tone.
•	Current Opinion:
o	GTA V dubbing is appealing but tougher, Rockstar might sue. Plans cool projects, active on YouTube.
Section 3: Key Highlights of the Famous Dub and Team
•	Team:
o	Saeid Gholami: Tommy Vercetti (Vice City), casino character (San Andreas).
o	Esmaeil Ganjiazar: CJ, Big Smoke, OG Loc, Emmet, Eddie Pulaski, some NPCs (San Andreas).
o	Mehdi Yousefi: Frank Tenpenny (San Andreas).
	Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/mehdi.k.yousefi
	Memory: Ganjiazar insisted his voice fit Tenpenny, recorded half in one day at Fursat St. office.
	Opinion: Wanted CJ but voice suited Tenpenny, unlike his nice personality.
o	Majid Hatami: Sweet (San Andreas).
	Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/majid5540
	Memory: Recorded in army uniform, thought it was 2 lines, turned into Sweet, Ganjiazar was strict.
o	Hamid: Ryder, found but declined to join, works in cultural events.
o	Amin Habibi: Most NPCs, passed away (car accident).
o	70-Year-Old Translator: Adjusted slang, lived in the US.
o	Other Translators: 2 more, sometimes wrote literal swears (e.g., “calf”), edited by Gholami.
o	Others: 10+ for ambient voices, 4-5 women, 7-8 men for main roles.
•	Why It Became Famous:
o	Team passion, detail (fun translations), nostalgia for 3 generations, iconic voices.
•	Sina Zand Death Rumor: Rumored that Sina Zand (deceased Iranian VA) voiced CJ, but he wasn’t involved; CJ was Ganjiazar.
•	Technical Context:
o	Weak internet, encrypted files hacked with Russians, pitch-shifted NPCs, minor errors (some English lines remain).
•	Current Status:
o	Gholami: Bitter about losses, open to legal projects with fan support.
o	Ganjiazar: In England, excited by fan love, planning big on YouTube.
o	Yousefi & Hatami: Willing to work with Ganjiazar, old gang is game.
Section 4: Behind-the-Scenes Dubbing (Second Interview - 39:44 to End)
•	Dialogues:
o	CJ (Ganjiazar): “Back again? Grove Street wins!”
o	Sweet (Hatami): “You play, you play, come here, you’re already done!”
o	Tenpenny (Yousefi): “CJ, where you at? Hey, Carl Johnson!”
•	Note: Revived nostalgia, delivered iconic lines.
Best Regards
Amirmahyar Etemadifard  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amirmahyar8212 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 10 March 2025 (UTC) 


### Persian Dub (By Cyber)
The Persian dub of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, released between 2003 and 2004 by Cyber, is widely regarded as a cultural milestone in Iran's gaming community. Produced and sponsored by Saeid Gholami, who managed Pars Game and later Cyber Game, the project spanned over a year (2003-2005) and featured 37,800 dialogues across 62,000 audio files, totaling 19 hours of voiced content. Gholami sold his 1992 Mitsubishi Galant to fund the effort, which was distributed on a 6-CD set with a manual of cheat codes in yellow factory packaging, initially priced at 6,000 IRR.
The voice cast included Esmaeil Ganjiazar as Carl "CJ" Johnson, Big Smoke, OG Loc, Emmet, Eddie Pulaski, and some NPCs; Mehdi Yousefi as Frank Tenpenny; Majid Hatami as Sweet; Hamid as Ryder; and Amin Habibi voicing most NPCs (Habibi later passed away in a car accident). Gholami voiced a casino character, possibly a card dealer in Las Venturas. A 70-year-old translator who lived in the US, along with two others, adjusted slang, though some literal translations (e.g., "calf" for swears) were refined by Gholami. Over ten additional actors, including 4-5 women and 7-8 men, contributed to ambient and main roles.
Starting in late 2003 or early 2004, Ganjiazar, fluent in English, self-translated the script with improvisations like "Pedal, you trash!" (voiced by Hamid as Ryder) and "As it says in the Holy Book" (Big Smoke). The team cracked encrypted files with assistance from a Russian hacker via Yahoo Messenger, working with numeric audio files (e.g., "0054") without visuals, relying on audio diagrams. Despite its scale, widespread illegal copying—exported to Afghanistan—led to financial losses for Gholami.
The dub's fame stems from the team's passion, detailed translations, and iconic voices, resonating with three generations of Iranian gamers (born in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s). It has garnered millions of YouTube views and remains a nostalgic favorite traded on platforms like Steam. In a 2024 interview, Gholami reflected bitterly on losing his car but noted public appreciation on social media lifted his spirits, joking, "I sold my Galant, you guys get excited, I’d slap you to make you get it!" Ganjiazar, now in England, reunited with the team after 20 years, pranking Gholami during the second interview.
Behind-the-scenes highlights from the second interview include revived dialogues: Ganjiazar as CJ ("Back again? Grove Street wins!"), Hatami as Sweet ("You play, you play, come here, you’re already done!"), and Yousefi as Tenpenny ("CJ, where you at? Hey, Carl Johnson!"). Currently, Gholami regrets the lack of legal support but is open to new projects with backing, while Ganjiazar, Yousefi, and Hatami express enthusiasm for future collaborations, with Ganjiazar planning ambitious YouTube content.
A rumor that Sina Zand, a deceased Iranian voice actor, voiced CJ was debunked; CJ was solely Ganjiazar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amirmahyar8212 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

This is fascinating information, but it needs to be covered by reliable sources before it can be discussed in the article. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 21:07, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

the game as banned in brazil at 2011 because of a infamous 2009 mod with real soccer teams fights and various pirate versions that pass on the country (they sell nowdays too XD
https://meiobit.com/arquivo/98880/as-brigas-de-torcidas-e-o-grand-theft-auto/
https://record.r7.com/jornal-da-record/videos/jogos-de-computador-simulam-briga-entre-torcidas-organizadas-em-go-25052022/
https://www.techtudo.com.br/noticias/2012/11/gta-torcidas-e-um-polemico-e-ilegal-mod-que-traz-brigas-entre-organizadas.ghtml
https://sportv.globo.com/site/programas/sportv-news/noticia/2012/10/jogo-virtual-que-simula-briga-entre-organizadas-provoca-reacao-do-mp.html
gta SA pirate copies:
https://www.tecmundo.com.br/voxel/262289-gta-torcidas-mod-viraliza-tretas-rede-social.htm
https://www.tecmundo.com.br/voxel/274823-analise-gta-6-ps2-testamos-versao-camelo-do-game.htm
https://www.tecmundo.com.br/voxel/500885-ps2-relembre-25-otimos-jogos-para-celebrar-os-25-anos-do-playstation-2.htm
https://www.tecmundo.com.br/voxel/262843-gta-san-andreas-versoes-modificadas-bizarras-jogo.htm
https://portalpopline.com.br/gta-nova-iguacu-mod-assunto-redes/
https://observatoriodegames.com.br/noticias/estao-fazendo-um-gta-v-para-playstation-2 Trollface 2006ALT (talk) 01:01, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

Trollface 2006ALT (talk) 00:16, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. GSK (talk • edits) 00:36, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
a add to the controversy section Trollface 2006ALT (talk) 22:14, 7 August 2025 (UTC)


### GTA Torcidas
In 2011, a 2009 online modification known as "GTA Torcidas" was criticized by the Brazilian media. In the game, player-controlled characters with clothes changed to real Soccer Clubs could attack rival fans in several different places while escaping from the police and other authorities, causing the official game to be banned in several cities such as Goiânia for being seen as "bad taste". 
When questioned about the content, the modification creators claimed they didn't want to promote violence and that the "Mod" was made for entertainment purposes. However, organized Soccer groups and law experts rejected the idea, claiming it incited real crimes. 


### False Editions
The PlayStation 2 version of the game was known for its various pirated modifications distributed in street sellers and informal businesses in several countries such as Brazil and later through emulation, many of them claiming as official maps or ports of games of the franchise, the most famous copies being Rio de Janeiro, Cidade de Deus and Tropa De Elite, many of them produced by the Brazilian website Geomatrix from Bomba Patch.

This article is trash when it has removed

characters
pulaski
hernandez
og loc
catalina
zero
Jizzy
mendez
kent paul
maccer
rosenberg
Salvatore leone
madd dogg
all their voice actors
who are real names of melvin harris and lance wilson
who is nicknamed woozie
who was ralph pendelbury
Removed all radio stations and gernes they play
removed the xbox pc and mobile version supporting a custom imported mp3 radio not on ps2
did not add samuel l jackson performance as tenpenny is memorable the same way he potrayed jules winnfield in pulp fiction
not referring use of dildo and masturbation in hot coffee
notes have removed this on b
Games in the Grand Theft Auto series are grouped into distinct fictional universes, which share interconnected plots and characters. The "3D universe" consists of Grand Theft Auto III (2001), Vice City (2002), San Andreas, Advance (2004), Liberty City Stories (2005), and Vice City Stories (2006). The San Andreas rendition of the San Andreas state is different from the rendition in Grand Theft Auto V(2013).
should not have been removed the b note and all radio stations and genres but instead notes should have added this on c
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas shares its position as the fifth best-rated PlayStation 2 game on Metacritic with Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec and Madden NFL 2003. The PlayStation 2 games rated higher than San Andreas are Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, Grand Theft Auto III, Resident Evil 4 and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.
i hope you have mercy for editing it and making it trash 188.172.108.234 (talk) 12:16, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Most of this information was trivial, unsourced, or written elsewhere (or, as far as I can tell, not actually written at all) and I have no issues with (or regrets about) its removal. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 20:53, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello,
I want to point out that the current English Wikipedia article for Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas is missing several important gameplay and feature details that are clearly covered in the Portuguese Wikipedia version.
Specifically:
The English article focuses too heavily on plot and side characters, while it leaves out key gameplay information such as the full list of radio stations and their music genres.
It does not properly mention that the Xbox, PC, and mobile versions of the game support custom soundtracks, which is a major feature that many players care about.
The Portuguese article includes clearer sections about characters like Pulaski, OG Loc and Madd Dogg radio stations, soundtrack genres, and differences between platforms, and it’s better organized overall.
I suggest adding sections or paragraphs with sourced information about:
All in-game radio stations and their genre focus (e.g., PlayBack FM K-DST, Radio Los Santos, etc.).
Details about the custom mp3 soundtrack feature in xbox pc and mobile versions.
Differences between console, PC, and mobile versions.
This would make the English article more complete, accurate, and useful to readers.
Thank you. Reutkposwospe (talk) 14:41, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions! A full list of radio stations is too excessive per WP:VGSCOPE#15, and more appropriate for a fan wiki; the soundtrack releases are sufficiently covered here. The article already mentions the custom soundtrack in § Music and the PC and mobile upgrades in § Ports, though if you're seeking a particular change, please feel free to specify. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:52, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
Ports are not interesting all i want you all editors to do is add synposis back remove anything and copy all the things from portugese wikipedia article i say it again the current english wikipedia article revision is nothing correct copy anything from portugese wikipedia Porkds (talk) 20:07, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
I agree with @Rhain. What you reccomend is gross fan cruft. I am sure a FANDOM wiki has what you're looking for. Babysharkb☩ss2 I am Thou, Thou art I 20:09, 21 November 2025 (UTC)


### Edit it and copy anything from current revision from portugese wikipedia article
Hello
i want to inform you that the current revision is missing so many things which portugese wikiepdia article has so correct
the characters like pulaski og loc madd dogg jizzy and salvatore are all missing
the mission supply lines which zero voice actor hated is not written
The radio stations and gernes they play are not listed
playbackfm k dst radiolossantos bounce fm etc
post ps2 is the 3.00 ps2 version and does not support a custom mp3 radio station instead xbox pc and mobile versions do which portugese current revision tells the right thing
the terms intercouse dildo and masturbation are not listed on the hot coffee controversy
michael washington’s lawsuit is not listed
also it does not include what ps2 games are rated higher
i suggest to edit it all and copy it anything from portguese current revision
thank you Porkds (talk) 19:50, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Me too i can’t stand it portugese is much clearner and by translating it you learn more correct knowledge 29383-steip (talk) 21:59, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions. As above, the soundtrack releases (including radio stations and their genres) are sufficiently covered here. Post-PlayStation 2 versions refers to every non-PS2 release. Not sure why dildo or masturbation should be mentioned with "Hot Coffee", as they're barely mentioned on the dedicated article, though I've expanded slightly. I considered adding Washington's lawsuit but it went nowhere so felt insignificant; it may be more suitable for CJ's article instead. Listing the PS2 games with higher Metacritic scores seems excessive; readers can check the ref for that info. I've added mention of OG Loc and Madd Dogg, though the rest feel less significant in the overall story, especially the Zero mission. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:25, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Post ps2 is 3.00 ps2 version not other versions pre ps2 is 1.03
about the music you should write it compared to portugese wikipedia with radio stations like playback fm k dst bounce fm and radio los santos and instead should write that xbox pc and mobile versions support a custom mp3 radio station 29383-steip (talk) 22:29, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Post-PlayStation 2 versions refers to the game's releases after (and excluding) the PS2 version, though I've prefaced with Some for accuracy. A full list of stations is a bit excessive; I've added the genres to the soundtracks article. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:50, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
It’s to important to the soundtracks article you should also add that xbox windows and mobile versions of the game support an exclusive radio for custom soundtracks which allows users playing imported mp3 files it’s an important thing many people care about 29383-steip (talk) 22:52, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
I've clarified the platforms here. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 23:05, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
I also want you to add characters like officer pulaski cousin of who is catalina claude jizzy mendez and salvatore leone 29383-steip (talk) 23:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
As I mentioned above, they are all fairly insignificant in the overall narrative. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 23:15, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Why you have to say by mentioning so damn negative it it’s missing very important characaters like pulaski who was he to cj and about leone being the don of a mob 29383-steip (talk) 23:33, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Pulaski is pretty secondary to Tenpenny, and Leone himself is fairly insignificant in this game's overall story (he's more important in Grand Theft Auto III). – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 23:41, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

You should not include on legacy about cj modding to other games when on the article of cj it tells some of the notable things about modding and how many dialogues has on notes section b the b from note section should state instead that san andreas is the 5th best rated ps2 game on metacritic with vice city gran turismo 3 a spec and madden nfl 2003 only tony hawk’s pro skater 3 gta iii resident evil 4 and metal gear solid 2 are with higher ratings Weios-094 (talk) 11:21, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

There's no need to remove some details simply to add others. The modding and dialogue information are logical inclusions; listing the four games rated higher than San Andreas on Metacritic, meanwhile, seems excessive and trivial, as mentioned above. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 12:18, 23 November 2025 (UTC)