# Talk:Kick Six

Would the passage in the opening sentence, "one of the most incredible college football games in NCAA history" qualify as peacock language?  
Merely an observation... –RedSoxFan274  (talk~contribs)' 09:05, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

With a scrimmage from the Auburn 38 yard line, shouldn't the kick have come from the 45 (given the typical seven-yards-back setup), and hence been a 55-yarder rather than 57?  Did the holder set up still deeper for some reason? Or was the ball actually spotted at the 40 after the review?
WHPratt (talk) 19:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Still no clarification on this apparent anomaly! WHPratt (talk) 13:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
And still  ...WHPratt (talk) 04:06, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

38 yard line or 40 yard line, what difference does it make? Well, if the kick went nine yards deep into the end zone, it was just a yard short of being non-returnable, which would be pretty important here. If the holder for the kick really set up two yards farther back than the normal 17 yards, those two yards might have made the difference. Even if two extra yards would still not have made the kick successful, they would at least have prevented a return when the ball went over the end line.
As we're always expressing the yard line as an integer, it’s a given that there’s a potential error of as much as half a yard in any such expression. I would expect the holder to pick a good spot on the grass, even at the sacrifice of some inches of closeness to the goalpost. So, we could accept a yard plus or minus in measuring the kick … but two yards is a tough sell.
With some internet browsing, I found at least three rehashes that say the runner went out of bounds at the 39 yard line. A snap from the 39 and the placement at the 57 is reasonable.
There ought to be an official play-by-play somewhere. However, unless there’s a good source for the 38, I’d suggest that 39 is more likely true. Changing the 38 to 39 would avoid so red a flag to the reader as I perceived back in 2014.
https://flywareagle.com/2013/12/02/2013-iron-bowl-auburn-alabama-kick-bama-kickkick-six-game-made-sense
Quoting the announcer: "... the ball’s at the 39-yard line."
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/lupica-auburn-alabama-talked-article-1.1533789
...until he got to the Auburn 39-yard line.
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/football/2018/11/22/iron-bowl-auburn-alabama-kick-six-chris-davis-rod-bramblett-eli-gold/2070946002/
... he was shoved out of bounds at the Auburn 39.
Splitting hairs is what we do, but I’m going to cut it out as of now. Thank you for your patience.
WHPratt (talk) 16:58, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Any free photos out there of the field after the game with all the fans on it?  Volunteer Marek  00:30, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Isn't "Kick Six" the more common nickname?  That's the only thing I've heard it called in the state of Alabama  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.160.155.27 (talk) 03:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC) 

Like the Challenger Explosion, 9/11, and the 2007 Fiesta Bowl, I remember exactly where I was when I saw the end of the 2013 Iron Bowl. However, I never heard it called the "Kick Six" until I ran across this page. I understand that this name may be meaningful in Alabama, but there are plenty of Auburn (I suppose Alabama too, but why would I deign to recognize them?) fans who have never set foot in Alabama. I think that Kick Six (2013 Iron Bowl) would be the best name for this article and should satisfy everyone. 108.38.35.162 (talk) 06:52, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

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I just checked over these links after the first link proved dead, however the third is a replica of it and so I have changed the citation in-article. PsyMar (talk) 02:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Pinging @Newtothisedit, here are my notes for the game summary section - these will cover general fixes and football-specific stuff:
First quarter

"On the game’s first play from scrimmage Alabama" -- add comma after "scrimmage"
"Alabama would then drive to the Auburn 26-yard line" -- change "would then drive" to "then drove"
"narrowly missed wide left" -- while there's technically nothing incorrect about this, it may come off as confusing to non-football fans; "narrowly" and "wide" seem to contradict each other. Even though I know what you mean, and "wide left" is a common football term, I would consider changing this to "narrowly missed to the left" or something similar to that.
"dropping a difficult deep pass" -- remove "difficult", could be construed as OR
"On the ensuing drive" is repeated in two sentences back-to-back near the end of the paragraph; I would consider swapping one of them
Second quarter

"The Tigers woes continued" -- "Tigers" needs an apostrophe after the "s" since it is possessive: "The Tigers' woes continued"
"continued on the following drive, losing 9 yards, going three and out and punting the ball back to the Tide" -- this sentence starts in past tense ("continued") and switches to present ("losing", "going", etc.)
"drive the length of the field with T.J. Yeldon scoring on a 1-yard rush" -- Yeldon's first name is given in the previous subsection so you don't need to repeat "T. J."
"at the half" -- for ease of comprehension for non-football fans, I would recommend switching this to "at halftime" with a piped link to Half-time
Third quarter

"downing the punt at the Alabama 1-yard line. After starting on their own 1-yard line" -- same info is given twice
My only major issue with this is that it is significantly shorter than the fourth quarter section (and the subsection for the final 32 seconds); I know it's a little harder to stretch a quarter with only a few drives in it, but were there any major plays in Q3 other than Uzomah's TD?
Fourth quarter

"two incomplete passes, and a false start penalty" -- comma is not needed
I could be wrong but I don't think "read option" needs a hyphen
"but was stuffed" -- a little jargon-y, I would be more literal about the fact that he did not gain the required yardage
"Despite it being a short field goal attempt" -- reader does not know what "it" means until they keep reading; I would introduce the idea of a FG attempt before you say that it would have been a short one but Saban didn't want to try it
"Yeldon was stuffed" -- same as above
"following a sack" -- link Quarterback sack
"two possession lead" -- "two-possession lead"
"Alabama went 3 and out" -- "three-and-out" is spelled out and hyphenated in the first quarter section
"before driving to the Alabama 39-yard line in six plays" -- this is worded a touch awkwardly, I would go with "and drove to the..."
Final 0:32

"before crossing the line of scrimmage" -- line of scrimmage is linked twice in this section so this instance can be unlinked
"Rather than take a knee and go to overtime" -- Quarterback kneel and Overtime (sports) should both be linked
"but before the kick, Auburn took a timeout" -- I would add, for context, "...Auburn took a timeout in an attempt to ice the kicker"
"Malzahn then put defensive back Chris Davis" -- Davis is mentioned earlier in this paragraph (pushing Yeldon out of bounds) so link (and maybe mention of his position) should be moved there
"With Alabama's field goal unit being made up mostly of" -- fix tense to say "Since Alabama's field goal unit was made up..."
"the speedy Davis" -- "speedy" is used in an earlier sentence, maybe eliminate this word
That's what I could find - overall very well-written, nice job! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:21, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

@PCN02WPS Thanks for the suggestions. I have made the changes suggested with the exception of expanding the third quarter which I will do soon. Newtothisedit (talk) 12:59, 7 April 2023 (UTC)