# Talk:Desmond Tutu

The caption for Desmond Tutu's picture used to read Archbishop Tutu {{circa|2004}}. Then it was:

changed to Tutu {{circa|2004}}
changed to Desmond Tutu {{circa|2004}} (that was me)
changed to The Archbishop {{circa|2004}}
changed to Tutu {{circa|2004}} (its state as I'm writing this), thus closing the loop.
Clearly, these can't all be improvements on each other. So which should it be? The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 10:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

I find the wording "privately—although not at the time publicly" confusing. Could it be shortened to just "privately"? = paul2520 💬 02:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Agreed!  I edited the section accordingly.  HappyWanderer15 (talk) 12:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

This page seems to be a frequent target for vandalism - do we need to increase protection on it? Mark and inwardly digest (talk) 16:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

'"Desmond degree" is slang in British universities for a Lower Second-Class Honours degree (a 2:2), derived from the South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu's surname, which sounds like "2.2". It is a form of rhyming slang'
why is this not mentioned in the article? its one of the reasons he is most notable and any time someone adds it the changes are reverted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.155.3 (talk) 18:59, 30 August 2025 (UTC) 

This could be added to the article only if reliable sources are included. Jiltedsquirrel 🌰 (talk || contribs) 19:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/shortcuts/2012/jul/04/dont-judge-job-applicant-by-degree there are thousands of reliable sources online 86.153.155.3 (talk) 19:04, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

There is no mention of "My Vision for South Africa". It does not even have a wikipedia page. This is quite a piece and is used in schools. Can someone get on this? ScionDeMartinez (talk) 04:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)