# Talk:Jupiter

I just linked  this very readable (and quotable) SciAm article on the Juno spacecraft's discoveries at Jupiter so far: How NASA's Juno probe changed everything we know about Jupiter  It's up-to-date (published August 19, 2025) and it's currently free access. Which is unusual for SciAm. Have a look while it's freely available. Written by Robin George Andrews, a volcanologist and science writer based in London.
Chances are good there's stuff here to add to the body of the article. Regulars here, please take a look. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 00:16, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

More tidbits from the Aug 25, 2025 SciAm newsletter (no URL I could find):
1,300 Earths could fit inside the gas giant.
The famous Great Red Spot on the planet's surface is a storm system that could encompass Earth.
All the other planets in the solar system could easily fit inside Jupiter.
Jupiter's mass outweighs all other planets in the solar system combined, by more than two and a half times.
Good for teachers, and trivia buffs. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 01:40, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Those are four common not new facts every astronomer has heard before Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 04:58, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

The article says:

Since Jupiter is made of the same elements as the Sun (hydrogen and helium) it has been suggested that the Solar System might have been a system of multiple protostars early in its formation, with Jupiter being the second but failed protostar. But the Solar System never developed into a system of multiple stars and Jupiter does not qualify as a protostar or brown dwarf since it does not have enough mass to fuse.
citing

Bodenheimer, Peter; D'Angelo, Gennaro; Lissauer, Jack J.; Fortney, Jonathan J.; Saumon, Didier (June 3, 2013). "Deuterium Burning In Massive Giant Planets And Low-mass Brown Dwarfs Formed By Core-nucleated Accretion". The Astrophysical Journal. 770 (2): 120. arXiv:1305.0980. Bibcode:2013ApJ...770..120B. doi:10.1088/0004-637X/770/2/120. ISSN 0004-637X.
and 

Drobyshevski, E. M. (1974). "Was Jupiter the protosun's core?". Nature. 250 (5461). Springer Science and Business Media LLC: 35–36. Bibcode:1974Natur.250...35D. doi:10.1038/250035a0. ISSN 0028-0836. S2CID 4290185.
The Bodenheimer is not about Jupiter and does not discuss it other than using the mass of Jupiter as unit. The Drobyshevski source is 50 years old and has only 28 citations, almost all by Drobyshevski.
The 2004 review

Lunine, J. I., Coradini, A., Gautier, D., Owen, T. C., & Wuchterl, G. (2004). The origin of Jupiter. Jupiter. The planet, satellites and magnetosphere, 1, 19-34.
does not mention Drobyshevski or the concept outlined in the text above. On the contrary it says the Jupiter does not have the same elemental composition as the Sun. I will delete this content. Johnjbarton (talk) 02:51, 2 September 2025 (UTC)