# Talk:Mindaugas

Confusion here - consecration is an action.  Did the pope (and get a name - it's easy.  Then link it to the biography) confirm an election, an imperial nomination, or what?  None of those three can be called 'consecrate', by the way.

A Teutonic Knight named Christian was consecrated by the pope as first bishop of Lithuania. The archbishop Albert of Riga undertook the consecration.
I'm not sure the first bishop is entirely relevant here anyway, but I'll leave it for now if the question is straightened out.
revised:

The Baltic tribes had held on to their own religion for a long time and continued to do so for a longer period.
I'm quite sure they had been non-Christians longer than they remained non-Christians after this date, since they had never yet been Christians.
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grand duke of Lithuania in 1316 , did restoration
kings of Poland , their titles
should be:
grand duke of Lithuania in 1316, did restoration
kings of Poland, their titles
--  User:MichaelTinkler 14:19 Dec 7, 2001

I have changed it to 1253-07-06, as this date is officialy celebrated in Lithuania as Crowning of Mindaugas (national holiday, etc) and is thought to be the most probable date of crowning.
Exact date is not known, but it could aslo be smth like 1253-07-13.

that date of crowning (07-06) now isn't thought to be the most probable, as it, in contrast with 1253-06-29, has not matched any Church Holiday in 1253; it was supposed by only Edvardas Gudavicius, whereas other historians suggest another dates.  Gugutis

I'm going to have to fail this, particularly on account of the prose. Please don't interpret this as an attack (I'm just trying to suggest how to fix the prose problem) but the article reads like it was written by a non-native english speaker. A lot of the prose is awkward as a result. Tagging the page with [[Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit]], or ask Wikipedia:WikiProject League of Copyeditors for assistance might be helpful, but if you want to try it yourself, some particular problems (this is not an exhaustive list) are:
Mindaugas (approximate English transcription [ˈmın.dəʊ.gʌs], simplified Lithuanian transcription [mindaŭgas]; also known as Ruthenian: Миндовгъ (Mindowh), Belarusian: Міндо́ўг (Mindoŭh), Polish: Mindowe, Mendog) 

Just say IPA if you're going to use the IPA, and also, when you say, "Also known as ..." Do you mean also known as such-and-such in such-and-such-language? It's kinda awkward as it is.
The first conclusive evidence that the Balts were uniting... 
Concerning the first paragraph, I, a layperson, who has absolutely no knowledge about anything Lithuanian, don't understand at all what's it's talking about. Why are the balts not united to begin with? Who are these dukes and where did they come from?
July 6th is now celebrated as "Statehood Day" (Lithuanian: Valstybės diena); it is an official holiday in modern Lithuania.

I can see how this relates, however the prose doesn't smoothly work it in. Say somthing like, this day, July 6th, is commemorated in the modern lithuanian holiday, "Statehood Day."
Beyond this, this article simply doesn't have a lot of context. A layperson doesn't understand what effect this guy has on the flow of history. 
One last comment. Why exactly is it that Image:Mindaugo aktas su antspaudu.jpg is tagged as Public domain because the author died 70 years ago? It's a color photograph, so it can't be that old, and the copyright on the photo is still intact, even if the copyright on the object isn't. Thanatosimii 21:10, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Why is he not referred to as Minguinas I? There have been two rulers of Lithuania by this name, so it follows that this should be the case.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.107.198.132 (talk) 08:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC) 

Simply not accepted in historiography. Renata (talk) 10:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I bilt dynasty of MEDOG(MINDAUGAS)
50508 Prince Palemo relative of Roman Cesar Nero took took 500 famalies on ships went to Baltic sea and settle on river Neman went up.The was 4 major houses Dospungus coat of arm Kitovras,Prosperce Cesarin coat of arm Kolumni or Primus,Korsinus coat of arm Ulianus,Hecktor coat arm Rosey.First Dynasty was Prince Palemo it ended on Voycelk who was kiled in monasrtry. 1 Palemo-2 Kunos-3 Gimbrutus-4 Montvil-5 Radivil(Erdvil)-6 Mikgayla-7 Skirmont-8 Troynut-9 Algimont-10 Ringolt-11 Mendog-12 Voyselk-chang of dynasty to Dovspungus Coat of arm Kitovras 1 Zhivibund-2 Kunovoyt-3 Utenes-4 Svintorog 5 Germont-6 Altimin-7 Ranut-8 Narimont-9 Troyden-10 Ginvil- he went to monastry change of dynasty to Coat of arm Kolumni(Primus) 1 Viten- 2 GEDEMIN(KGEDEMIN)-3 Evnut removed by 4 Kestut+Olgerd both-5 Skirgaylo-6 Yagaylo -7 Vitolt(Vitautas)-8 Svidrigaylo (ovethrown mooved to rule Rus lands Kiev)-9 Zhigimont-10 Kazimir-11 Alexand(remooved to be King of Poland)-12 Zhigimont-August(mooved to be King of Poland)-13 Zhigimont(Son of Zhigimont old) Poland incorporated Duchy of Lithuania, Rus and Zhmont but Duchy had separate army and money and constitution CONFEDERATION
<ref>http://litopys.org.ua/psrl3235/lytov07.htm Александр Макович (talk) 00:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Maybe some of the pics are too big? Shall we experiment with making (some) smaller? Novickas (talk) 13:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Well general perception is that pictures, apart from maps perhaps, should not have predefine pixel size. M.K. (talk) 18:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I removed this, as no ref so far: Vykintas died in 1251 or 1252, and Tautvilas was forced to rejoin Daniel of Galicia. M.K. (talk) 10:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
It's pretty close here. Thanks guys! One thing - a ref for DOB 1203. It may be in one ofthe other refs, but am not finding it. I think ca. 1200 is better for the lead, since that would cover both possible years. Later, Novickas (talk) 14:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
I actually have not seen 1203 in any literature. Usually it just says ca. 1200. The date was introduced really long time ago. Renata (talk) 15:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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'Mindaugs'
Žemaitėška Wikipedia also writes 'Mindaugs'. Shouldn't be the name included in the list?
Xx236 (talk) 13:22, 6 July 2022 (UTC)