# Talk:Mamie Eisenhower

Maybe someone who knows more about her can expand on this, so that it's not just a copy of the whitehouse.gov bio.  
Two stories I've heard about her, and both may be apocryphal: 
1.  She spent her mornings in bed -- sometimes working from bed, but rarely got up until after noon. 
2.  She was responsible for racially integrating the annual Easter egg hunt at the White House.
Both the story about Mamie Eisenhower staying in bed for part of the day and the story about her integrating the annual Easter Egg Roll are true.  See the biography her granddaughter, Susan Eisenhower, wrote called Mrs. Ike.

Does anyone have any information about this bizarre nickname for
their short-lived son Doud Dwight?  I thought it was some kind of
vandalism when I first saw it, but I found confirmation on other
websites, though no explanation. 
Oh wait, maybe it's supposed to be a cute take-off on "Ike", his
father's nickname.  If so, it sure didn't work for me!
Bigmac31 (talk) 20:39, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
24.17.192.70 (talk) 19:11, 30 January 2015 (UTC) It was popular on the base; perhaps the connotation of 'ickiness' came later in our vernacular.

In the 

{{succession box}}

for 
First Lady of the United States
it lists 

[[Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis]]

now.
Shouldn't it display the name she was known by, while living in the white house?  Something like 

[[Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis|Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy]]

for example ?
That way, it would display as "Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy" (a name she was known by, while living in the white house) -- but it would still point to the same article, about the same person;  that is, "Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis".
(right?)
Just a suggestion. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 03:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

going ahead with the above [change to the article].  Any objections or opinions (etc.), you can revert and/or comment here.  --Mike Schwartz (talk) 18:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Is there a source for the hyphen in "Mamie Geneva Doud-Eisenhower"? I have not seen it anywhere else. Jim (talk) 20:35, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not a Mamie scholar, so will defer to others interested in this subject, but there were a couple of omissions I thought I should point out in case others want to take them up in the article:
- Icky's death probably warrants a bigger section, as it loomed large in Dwight's life and it would be prudent to assume Mamie's as well.  They never got over it, though reportedly past it.  He sent her flowers on Icky's birthday each year, I believe.  The scarlet fever (strep throat which progresses) was brought into the house by a housekeeper or babysitter that Ike hired, no doubt a source of guilt and problems.  Icky's popularity around the base (I think he was a mascot of some kind, but it's hazy) is oft noted.
- Whether or not Ike slept with Kay S., the rumors took a toll on Mamie.  Kay was 'photoshopped' (Airbrushed in the day, I presume) out of at least one photo so that Mamie wouldn't see it.  I would make no -claim- of infidelity in her entry, but certainly the rumors during and after WW2 were painful, and if Kay's book came out during Mamie's lifetime (I'd have to verify) claiming the affair, perhaps a sentence on that?

I checked and the book wherein Kay claims her big love affair with Ike (http://www.amazon.com/Past-Forgetting-Affair-Dwight-Eisenhower/dp/0671223585) did in fact come out two years before Mamie died.  That seems relevant, and not just TMZ-worthy, as Kay could have waited until Mamie died but chose not to.  I guess a good benchmark would be whether this type of thing is mentioned in Jacquie Kennedy's article.
- Authors vary on whether Mamie drank a lot or not.  Defenders point to inner ear, though there's nothing but anecdotal evidence.  Since the alcohol use is also anecdotal, perhaps a mention of both as possibilities.  It's not bad now, though it reads like the inner ear was the reason and the alcohol but a rumor.  I don't think it's that cut and dried.
Cheers!
24.17.192.70 (talk) 19:05, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

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In 2016, I contributed a new lede which ended: ‘On leaving the White House, she made clear her disapproval of the incoming Kennedys.’
This was reverted (18/4/16) by user 2600:1001:B01A:88DD:60DD:157B:9803:86B0. (I can't access his Talk Page, because he has currently been blocked for a year). In the main article, it says that this story had been repeated in several biographies. I think it is quite a significant event in White House history. Valetude (talk) 18:19, 1 March 2019 (UTC)


### Mamie Eisenhower
The article states that Mamie Doud "began courting Dwight D. 'Ike' Eisenhower in 1915...." The definition of the word "court" in this context is "to seek the affections of".  It is not a synonym for "date".   Did Mamie really "court" Ike when it was he who invited her to tour the facility with him, he who asked her on a date, which she declined, and he who then "pursued" her, according to the article?  I think Ike was courting Mamie, not the other way around.  
The article goes on to state that Mamie "courted other suitors".  Back in the old days, which includes the year 1915, the word "court" was never applied to women.  Only men "courted".  Seeing the word "court" used to describe the behavior of a young woman is jarring. Jersey Jan (talk) 13:26, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

I think I've changed it to be more neutral (& hopefully more accurate). - Special-T (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2025 (UTC)