# Talk:Mikhail Gorbachev


### Mikhail Gorbachev
I had added the following under "In popular culture":
Gorbachev is being interviewed in the 2020 film Gorbachev. Heaven.
But it was then removed, with this justification:
"no sign of notability for the film (it also doesn't have a enWP article), +imdb source "
I don't understand the justification. Have I broken any of Wikipedia's rules? 
What does "no sign of notability" mean? A film which contains extensive interviews of Gorbachev himeself is not good enough to be mentioned in Gorbachev's Wikipedia page? Petroskritikos (talk) 20:42, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

@Petroskritikos I don’t think you have broken any policy per se, but I’ll explain my removal. Gorbachov was probably interviewed many times throughout his career and singling out some on an arbitrary, unreferenced listing would constitute as WP:UNDUE. Trivia paragraphs (see also WP:TRIVIA, especially in articles about very important persons like this one, require (or have consensus) some sort of an article written about it - but after checking I don’t one could be made for Gorbachev. Heaven film. Of course I’d be happy to hear from others A09|(talk) 21:32, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for your clarification. You talk about "singling out some on an arbitrary, unreferenced listing". I disagree that this film is "arbitrary". It's not just any random interview of Gorbachev. It's a 90 minute film by an important film-maker, where Gorbachev answers among others difficult questions about his political choices, from the perspective of his old age. People interested in Gorbachev enough to read his Wikipedia page would certainly be interested in hearing what he has to say in this film. Imagine a similar film about any other Western political leader. Wouldn't that film make it to their Wikipedia page? I think this answers also your comment about WP:UNDUE or WP:TRIVIA. A production where Gorbachev himself speaks for practically the entire film constitutes neither "undue weight" nor "trivia". It is certainly more significant than the fact that Gorbachev appears in the videogame Call of Duty; the latter can be considered "trivia" but you did not delete that one.
As for the "require (or have consensus) some sort of an article written about it", I'm afraid I don't quite understand your language. Are you saying that there is a Wikipedia requirement that an article must be written about a film, in order to be able to mention the film? I don't see why. The IMBD page I cited confirms the existence of the film, and this is what's important to someone who is interested in Gorbachev. Still, an article about this film happens to indeed exist: https://variety.com/2020/film/reviews/gorbachev-heaven-review-the-former-soviet-leader-says-his-piece-or-doesnt-in-a-moving-insightful-doc-1234837371/
I tried to re-add my entry but seem to be blocked from doing so, albeit with a bogus message saying "try again in a few minutes because you exceeded your number of tries". Has someone blocked me from re-editing the page? Petroskritikos (talk) 10:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)