# Talk:G.U.Y.

Surely the cited chart position should be elaborated on? As it is, this article insinuates that the song reached No. 1 on Israel's official singles sales chart, but that's not the case. It reached No. 1 on Media Forest's "Song - TV" chart, ie. it was the most played music video on Israeli Music Television stations. That's a very different thing to peaking at No. 1 on a country's main singles sales chart. So maybe that should be changed to

or some such to avoid confusion? Homeostasis07 (talk) 02:03, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't see it listed as #1 in the link provided. Pure fancruft. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 02:28, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
It is, click on Songs - TV. That airplay is part of Media Forest ranking. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:15, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
OK thanks for the pointer, now I see it and take back the "fancruft" comment. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 06:01, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

There's a misunderstanding among some editors that song articles mustn't mention the lyrics of the song. That isn't the case. I have added this In ictu oculi (talk) 13:17, 18 June 2014 (UTC) 

The lyrics for the song were written by Lady Gaga herself. The title of the song occurs in the phrase:
I wanna be the Girl Under You (oh yeah) / I wanna be your G.U.Y (yeah)
(1) WP:SONG says "However, how much of a song you can quote is open to interpretation, but you should avoid copyright paranoia." Evidently this first line is notable, necessary and key to understanding that Lady Gaga is singing "I wanna be your Gee Yoo Why" not "I wanna be your bloke". So in what format could we best add this? The grey box above probably isn't preferable to the alternative quote indents.
(2) The article is very bulky, a short Lyrics section would be a better way of sectioning existing content about lyrics which seems to be spread randomly in lead and body. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:38, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

No, it is completely unencyclopedic, WP:OR and WP:ILIKEIT on your behalf. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 04:43, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Providing a key line from song lyrics is always encyclopedic. If you look at well written song articles, in books on Latin music or Paul McCartney, Nat King Cole or Aerosmith for example you'll relevant lines from lyrics always cited in full song articles, and it can't be WP:OR if it's sourced.
As for WP:ILIKEIT on your behalf. Well that's okay, you are allowed to like things. However in my view the article would benefit from a short Lyrics section to gather existing content about lyrics which seems to be spread through in lead and body in an uncoordinated way. Songs are more than marketing and sales, they also exist as pieces of music with texts. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:49, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
@In ictu oculi:, I agree that a key line from the lyrics especially the Gee Yooo IIII part would be beneficial, but a composition section is already present, who's last para deals with the lyrics. We can surely add it there, provided that we find a reliable source which talks about the opening line. I'm afraid I did not find such a source when I added content to that section, and you are welcome for any help on that. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 04:59, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay so we're reaching some agreement, thanks. I would suggest indenting 2. Recording and composition with 2.1 Lyrics so that the lyrics section is visible. Either at Its composition is reminiscent... or at The song opens... and then insert the "I wanna be the Girl Under You (oh yeah) / I wanna be your G.U.Y (yeah)" in an appropriate light quote template so it is conveniently visible. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:07, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
I was actually talking about finding a reference about the opening line. If you see the lyrics present in the section are commented on by third party media. We cannot just simply add it for our own preferences since it would be copyvio. And I would like to hear others opinion also since this is not something that we usually do with the song articles. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:09, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Sure. The existing chunk "I don't need to be on top to know I'm wanted, 'cause I'm strong enough to know the truth." doesn't actually seem to be there at article linked?
However wn.com article and popcrush.com both include "I wanna be the Girl Under You (oh yeah) / I wanna be your G.U.Y (yeah)". Are either of these sites usable? If they are they explain/illustrate the title's location in the lyrics.
It's only my personal feeling but I tend to think where song title occurs/is explained in lyrics is one of the key notable points within a song's lyrics. In the 60s of course it usually was the first sentence... In ictu oculi (talk) 05:23, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

There was some news about staffers at the Castle complaining about Gaga and some things she did. I'll leave it to the main editors of this page to decide whether or not it should be included. (http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/04/lady-gaga-difficult-diva-music-video-shoot/) --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 07:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

The picture showing her artRAVE: The ARTPOP Ball performance was from Donatella, not from G.U.Y.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilfredium (talk • contribs) 23:20, 30 July 2014 (UTC)