# Talk:Homer and Apu

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Hey, what is the comedian and the car-driving bit referring to?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.116.101 (talk) 23:47, 13 January 2019 (UTC) 

You guys pretty much have these episodes down to a science, and thus I have no real complaints about the article as it stands right now. (Incidentally, some of us are trying to get a similar South Park initiative going, if you're interested in helping out there.)
However, Google Books has a large amount of material that's not included in here. I was wondering if perhaps you'd like to take a look through the search results there and maybe add some of the material? The search results are here:
http://books.google.com/books?q=%22Homer+and+Apu%22&btnG=Search+Books
And the best results are below:
http://books.google.com/books?id=A6Qr6BFJUjoC&pg=RA1-PA97&dq=%22Homer+and+Apu%22#PRA1-PA98,M1
http://books.google.com/books?id=B7T4T1oK_-IC&pg=PA170&dq=%22Homer+and+Apu%22#PPA170,M1
http://books.google.com/books?id=Bzk4qXqzcU0C&pg=RA1-PA135&dq=%22Homer+and+Apu%22
http://books.google.com/books?id=TybDb9jWlXYC&pg=PA237&dq=%22Homer+and+Apu%22
http://books.google.com/books?id=n6vZJnxK1XYC&pg=PA286&dq=%22Homer+and+Apu%22
Take a look and let me know. I doubt it will be a problem to pass this one after that! — Hunter Kahn (contribs) 15:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

What do you think about this?
Paul Cantor analyzed the episode in his book Gilligan Unbound: Pop Culture in the Age of Globalization, commenting: "The sign [of the Kwik-E-Mart head office in India] combines the timeless wisdom of the East with the time-tested business acumen of the West: 'The Master Knows Everything Except Combination to Safe.' The Simpsons could offer no better image of the bizarre logic of contemporary globalization than a worldwide convenience store empire run by an enlightened guru from the sacred mountains of India."
Note: This is only from one of the links you gave me (I haven't had time to do the rest yet). —TheLeftorium 17:52, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I added a bit more the article. Do you think it's enough? —TheLeftorium 19:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

As for what you added, for the most part it's simply text from the books copied word-for-word from the book. I think you should try to change some of that to prose within the article, rather than using large quotes. Something like this:
In the book Leaving Springfield: The Simpsons and the Possibility of Oppositional Culture, Duncan Beard said the episode served as an parody of the peculiarities of the American convenience store. Beard particularly cited the Muzak and the dinging bell as Homer and Apu entered the Kwik-E-Mart in Indian, and the sign that read, "The Master Knows All (except combination to safe)". Beard said, "Here the show presents its own instance of the global culture of consumer capitalism, transplanted intact and indistinguishably unaltered from the suburbs of America to a mountain top in some indefinable region of the post-partitioned Commonwealth nation of India, purely for the purpose of parodically criticizing the banality of quick-stop stores."
Paul Cantor, who analyzed the episode in his book Gilligan Unbound: Pop Culture in the Age of Globalization, said, ""The Simpsons could offer no better image of the bizarre logic of contemporary globalization than a worldwide convenience store empire run by an enlightened guru from the sacred mountains of India." Cantor also specifically cited the "Master Knows" sign, which he said combined the perceived wisdom of the East with the business acumen of the West.
Also, you still haven't added anything from... This one - About what the episode says about the relationship and differences between Apu and Homer; the use of Kwik-E-Mart as a space for Apu's Asian-American identity, the India convenience store reinforcing the association between mini-supermarket stores with South Asian immigrants, and the voyage as one of Apu seeking authentication of his South Asian identity.
Or from ... This one  - Discusses what the author preceives as stereotypes over the inference that South Asians manage all convenience stores. — Hunter Kahn (contribs) 01:12, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I have added some information from the first link, but to be honest, English isn't my first language so it's a bit difficult for me to understand the texts in those books. Perhaps you could help me out? Thanks, TheLeftorium 10:20, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Leftorium, I had no idea English wasn't your first language. You do excellent work here on the English Wikipedia considering that! I think the article is ready to be passed now. Nice work once again!
A good article is:

Well-written: Prose is good, MOS is good.
Factually accurate and verifiable: Sources are good, no original research.
Broad in its coverage: Covers main aspects, no unneeded detail.
Neutral: Yes.
Stable: Yes.
Illustrated, if possible, by images: Yes.
— Hunter Kahn (contribs) 01:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. :) TheLeftorium 09:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

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