# Talk:French destroyer Le Fantasque

Re: this debate. Most publications I've seen list this class as destroyers & don't list them as cruisers. However, because of their strong armament, the Allies listed them as light cruisers for operational use. Folks at 137 08:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Everything starts with the treaty of Washington, which regulated the size and number of cruisers, battleships and such units, but did not impose restrictions on ships like destroyers.
This induced the French (among others) into building large destroyers. The Fantasque series are a typical example.
After they were refitted in the US, the Frantasque and her sister-ships were officially classified as "cruisers" to abide to standards of the Allies, but the classification as a large and over-kill "destroyer" ("contre-torpilleur", actually) was somewhat rethorical in the first place. Rama 11:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

The article says this ship was "was the second destroyer of the Malin class"; can anyone corroborate this? That the class was named for Malin? All the sources for the class (including the French one) refer to them as Le Fantasque, not Malin. Xyl 54 (talk) 22:27, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

This page was edited a while ago to remove the definite article from the ship's name. As there was no explanation for this (here or elsewhere) and all the sources refer to her as Le Fantasque, with the definite article, I've edited the page to put it back. If anyone has a verifiable source that supports the name without the definite article, I would be interested to see it. Xyl 54 (talk) 22:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)