# Talk:Greenfield tornado

Hey @Sumanuil: The tornado is still on the Damage Assessment Toolkit (DAT). The DAT is an interactive map. It only automatically shows the latest 5-7 days. You have to change the date to when the Greenfield tornado occurred. I did just check and it is still there, so the reference doesn’t fail any verification. You can change the date at the top right of the website. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

I did change the date. It gave me zilch. Maybe it's my computer? Is there a URL that would give those results automatically?  - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 06:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Sadly no direct link. I often set the date to a few days before and after a tornado. Sometimes the National Weather Service offices enter the date as the survey date or make an error and enter a date before the tornado when trying to correct for a previously entered survey date as the date for the tornado. I just took this screenshot, so maybe set your dates like I have. Also, make sure you are on the correct site. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 06:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Well, that's less than ideal. Maybe there should be a note alongside that reference? - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 18:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
The dat doesnt save dates. Iy you link it to a certain date, it will not do that. 2600:1014:B100:6AC1:0:56:DA88:6701 (talk) 22:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

As the image in the infobox is up for deletion, I propose we add a frame from Reed Timmer's amazing drone footage of the tornado, a film that has itself been reported on by a few other sources. Alternatively, are any images from Greenfield itself and the tornado's peak intensity known to exist? From what I can tell, the drone footage was taken around 10-15 minutes before the tornado hit Greenfield, and I haven't seen any images of the tornado in the city itself. Does anyone know if the DOW team has an image of that? Departure– (talk) 20:19, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Realistically, peak intensity was near the windmill footage, but lack of proper DIs screwed it up. In addition, AFAIK there are no known photos of it in Greenfield. I might try and get the DOW team to release a radar shot to PD. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 06:00, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Email sent to Wurman, not expecting a reply though. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 06:12, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Good news and bad news.
Good news: I got pictures
Bad news: I'm a dumbass and there's already a DOW image in there. Not sure about peak intensity though. Also not PD. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 02:39, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
Good news! Anticomp said that radar images are inherently PD per https://copyright.gov/comp3/chap900/ch900-visual-art.pdf 909.3(B)! I've uploaded the image. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 03:31, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
@Wildfireupdateman: @EF5: I found one! This is a more relevant and clearer image of the tornado in all of its multi-vortex and Cthulu-esque glory approaching Greenfield from the south. With you folks' approval, I'll replace the Reed Timmer image, but again as there's multiple people in this discussion I'll run it through discussion. It's from this AMS blog about the tornado and the DOW team's methodology.Departure– (talk) 16:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
Nope. Per FAC, we're going to go with the Reed Timmer video unless some kind soul donates a free image of the storm. Still a good image, though. Departure– (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
I've replaced the image with a screenshot from INCREDIBLE TORNADO VS WIND TURBINE DRONE FOOTAGE by Reed Timmer. The infobox photo was a copyright violation but hasn't been deleted on Commons yet. I don't know if my edit summaries were enough notification so I'm saying it here. Departure– (talk) 15:16, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

@Departure–: I recommend looking at the Greensburg tornado (a GA for one) for an example on how this format works when referred to frequently as such in studies and by townsfolk. Frankly that does not destroy the flow at all. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 14:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

See the centralized discussion at WP:WPWX that I've started as any consensus there will apply to more articles to avoid having a dispute like this in the future. Departure– (talk) 14:31, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

File:Aerial imagery of EF4 damage to homes in Greenfield, Iowa.jpg has been nominated to become a Featured Picture on Wikipedia. You can view the nomination here: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/2024 Greenfield tornado damage via drone. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 14:14, 24 March 2025 (UTC)


### Greenfield tornado
I've listed this article for peer review in the hopes that I can get this up to FA quality by May 21. On that date, I expect to see an uptick in coverage on the tornado (yes, I had this at FAC less than a year it happened - I'm lucky it was so well documented!). I've addressed much of the original scrutiny from the FAC, and want to get this as high of a quality as I can by the time people come back here for its first anniversary.
Thanks, Departure– (talk) 17:37, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

I removed the coordinates as inappropriate for a linear event. Other tornado articles tend not to have them, and I hope that those that do were short runs or point to a town that was destroyed or something.  Abductive (reasoning) 15:21, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
There are few things I can directly point to with coordinates without synthesis; there's really only the tornado's touchdown and lifting points, Greenfield itself, and various points of damage. It's not too important to the article itself so the coordinates are probably best left out. Departure– (talk) 15:25, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

The first round of anniversary coverage came this morning, and focuses on Hy-Vee, a regional supermarket chain, planting trees near Greenfield. Is this due in the article at all? KCCI, May 1. I don't know if it should be added as it's pretty late after the storm hits and they're just planting trees, but I want some more input on whether or not this is worth adding. Departure– (talk) 13:52, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#June First sources at Greenfield tornado that concerns the use of Ethan Moriarty's YouTube sources on this article. Feel free to contribute there. Thank you. Departure– (talk) 14:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

@MarioProtIV and Nicholas Krasznavolgyi: The physical memorial to the tornado in Greenfield plagiarizes this article's lede (i.e. no credit - text is free but needs to be attributed) via close paraphrasing - see KCCI article where the text can be seen briefly at the end. The article's lede is older than the monument so I know it's not the other way around (current wording arrived around February, monument came just this week). Departure– (talk) 00:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Departure–, that is amazing. Good job y'all, now your writing is permanently engraved in a monument. They even had the "known as the Greenfield tornado" part nailed, good grief. — EF5  00:16, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
See also the thread I started at WP:Y#What to do when Wikipedia is plagiarized from. Departure– (talk) 00:18, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Des Moines forecast discussion, 1:42 PM
Tornado warning for Cass and Adams, 2:52 PM
Tornado warning for Cass, Union, Adams, and Adair, 2:55 (Greenfield, Fontanelle, and Nodaway Park around 330 PM CDT)
SVS for Cass, Union, Adams, and Adair 3:01 (PDS)
Tornado warning for Madison, Union, Adams, Taylor, and Adair, 3:07
SVS cancelling Cass and Adams 3:10
SVS cancelling Taylor 3:12
SVS cancelling Madison 3:21
Tornado warning for Madison, Union, Adams, and Adair, 3:26 (Radar confirmed)
PDS upgrade for Cass, Union, Adams, and Adair 3:27
Tornado warning for Madison, Guthrie, Dallas, and Adair, 3:35 (PDS)
(Past here, all products are after the Greenfield tornado.)

Tornado warning downgrade to confirmed, 3:43
Tornado warning for Madison, Union, Ringgold, Clarke, and Warren, 3:55 (indicated, 75 miles per hour forward speed?)
2024 MD 875 - The severe weather threat for Tornado Watch 277 continues
2024 MD 878 - Long tracked supercells within a line extending north to south across central IA will continue to move eastward into an even more favorable tornadic environment.
2024 MD 879 - Intense to potentially violent tornado threat across northeast Iowa and into southwest Wisconsin over the next 2 hours

Departure– (talk) 15:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC)