# Talk:Nani (footballer)

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Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha, or more simply known as "Nani" is another product of the Sporting Clube de Portugal Academy. Born in Amadora, Portugal on 1986-11-17, Nani has quickly moved up the ranks at Sporting and has become a regular member of their squad. He has been tipped for his dribbling abilities which resemble those of Cristiano Ronaldo or Ricardo Quaresma (both of which also came from the Sporting Academy). Nani has 6 goals in the 2005/2006 season ( 5 league goals and 1 cup goal ). Though he has proven himself to be a very talented player he has yet to become a regular starter and usually is a substitute for Carlos Martins in the 60th minute and plays on the Right Wing. Nani has only been called up to the Portuguese Under-21 squad a few times so far, but in the U-21 European Championship later this May, he is sure to make a regular appearance. Nani has signed a contract with sporting till 2010 and looks to have a very positive furture ahead of him.
I think it is copy from other site, but i cannot found it by Web searching. Matthew hk 13:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I know that he grew up in Lisbon, but I heard in a few interviews and commentaries that he was born in Cape Verde. The only thing is that these commentaries are in Portuguese and I'm not sure if in game commentary is something to be cited, plus it would be helpful if any Portuguese speakers can back that up, because my Portuguese isn't perfect. thanks
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Thoyo (talk • contribs) 20:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Major source all state that he is born in Lisbon, but i also agree that he was from Cape Verde in young Age.  Matthew_hk tc 01:37, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
The article says "Nani was born in Portugal, when his family migrated to Portugal." It seems as if they meant to say something else, i suggested before that he's from Cape Verde. I think that's what the author meant.
He was born in Amadora.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.102.206.106 (talk) 07:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC) 

29 goals in 5 caps?
Very good indeed.

He won't be given the no. 18 shirt at United as that belongs to Paul Scholes (he scores goals).
And when saying he'll be given no. 17 in the current article, the phrase "nice and dandi" doesn't seem very encyclopedic to me. signed Barnjo 09:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
why is there more information in the manchester united section than in the sporting section. he hasnt started his contract yet. more research on his career at sporting please.--Numberwang 22:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
On the skysports website Nani is already listed as part of Manchester United's squad 18/06/07
Pictures have now been released of Nani posing in the United strip and signing the contract with David Gill. He is now officially a United player. Check Gettyimages.

Care to supply a link?Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 20:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
here you go  http://editorial.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx  86.14.246.217 21:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Er, those pics just confirm what the article already says, that he's signed a contract which will come into force 1st July, so he's not a united player yet. Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 21:57, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
He's as much a United player as Gareth Bale and Darren Bent are Spurs players. He has signed a five-year deal with the club. Sporting are already spending the transfer fee. It's done.

And your source for this is ....?  Kevin McE 08:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
probably those pictures of him being photographed with david gill signing a contract while wearing a man utd shirt.

Until United announce the completed deal, as they've done today with Hargreaves, it's not a done thing. Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 16:43, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
True, although I have never in my life seen a player sign a contract, take photos in the shirt and then the deal not go through.

Neither have I that I remember in detail, though I sure there was something in Match magazine (20-odd years ago, not the comic now) about a player that signed, had pics taken in the kit, paraded in fornt of the fans during a game, that the deal then fell through.
Here's hoping that this comes off quickly, but as I've said on another article, God forbid, but if Nani (or Anderson for that matters) suffers a career-ending injury (or worse, death) between now and the transfer officially going through (ie FIFA/FA clearence), then they would never have been a United player. Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 18:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Can his club name be changed to 'Manchester United' in the fact box on the right? Don't know how 'Juventus' got approved! Anubhav Mishra (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Anubhav 12:47 SGT 12.05.2013

Wouldn't this article be better placed at "Luis Carlos Almeida da Cunha"? "Nani (footballer)" seems a bit too generic, and to title the article after his full name just seems more appropriate to me. - PeeJay 15:19, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree - tbh, I thought it was the longer title originally and somoen had moved it.Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 16:32, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
I'll go right ahead and do that then. - PeeJay 18:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

The following request to move a page has been added to Wikipedia:Requested moves as an uncontroversial move, but this has been contested by one or more people. Any discussion on the issue should continue here. If a full request is not lodged within five days of this request being contested, the request will be removed from WP:RM.  —Stemonitis 18:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Nani (footballer) → Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha — "Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha" is the player's full name. "Nani (footballer)" is too generic. —PeeJay 18:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
The trouble is, he's almost exclusively known simply as "Nani". Almost all the 33,000 web hits for "Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha" also use "Nani", and there are a further 400,000 using only "Nani". If these numbers are representative, then the current title is right. --Stemonitis 18:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Agreed - keep the article at the current name. - fchd 19:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Tentative oppose  If I could rephrase Stemonitis, he is known almost exclusively as Nani: i.e., this is what is likely to be on the back of his shirt, that is how press reports and fans will refer to him, almost without exception, and any exception will need explanation; for this reason I oppose the move (Policy suggests that we use the name best known to English speakers, and that is undoubtedly Nani).  However, what tentativeness I have is in deciding the appropriate disambiguation: given the preponderance of nicknames in football, for how long will we be able to say that he, exclusively, is known as Nani: i.e., will there be several other players to whom the article Nani (footballer) could equally apply?  Kevin McE 23:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
That last bit is a good point. I can't actually think of any other footballers to whom "Nani (footballer)" could refer directly, but I'm pretty sure there's a Uruguayan player called Roberto Nanni, if that counts. - PeeJay 01:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
These last concerns, while valid, should not affect the choice of core title, but only the choice of disambiguating suffix. If there were a dozen footballers all called just "Nani", then they should all be at articles with titles based on "Nani". There are many options for later disambiguation: "Nani (Manchester United footballer)", "Nani (winger)", "Nani (footballer born 1986)" and probably others, which we only need to consider when such articles arise. --Stemonitis 06:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Pele is at Pele, not Edson Arantes do Nascimento.  Even though there's other footballers with "Pele" in their name (e.g. Abedi Pele, Yohann Pele, Pedro Pele).  If there's a (made up example) Brazillian player called "Pablo Nani" in the future, then all you'd need is a disambiguation at the top of the Nani (footballer) page ("This page is for the Portugese player.  For the Brazillian player, see Pablo Nani"). Neil ╦ 14:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd take the Ronaldo comparison out. The likeness is purely based on them both being Portuguese and coming through the Sporting academy. They are actually quite different players, so comparing them in the first paragraph is lazy.
Nani and Anderson lived with Ronaldo in his house when they moved over from Portugal. Ronaldo helped them settle down and that resulted in all of them becoming good friends. 
Read that in the Man Utd magazine.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.195.8 (talk) 22:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC) 

There is no citation to support the accusation made in the final sentence of the "International career" subtitle. The sentence is also grammatically incorrect. It should be removed immediately.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaccookie (talk • contribs) 00:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 18:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

can anyone had a photo to his personal info  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benficadc13 (talk • contribs) 01:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 
--89.216.233.41 (talk) 16:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

1986 or 1987?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.11.253.210 (talk) 04:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC) 
Please, correct Nani's DOB in Basic Facts Box, it's wrong. Later in text, DoB is correct!
Please, correct: Nani was born in Lisbon, although his parents are from Cape Verde.

No he wasn't. – PeeJay 09:13, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Can someone check firstly his international stats in the info box.  Are they correct - couldn't find confirmation either way in the links at the end of the article? Secondly, in the Portugal section of the main article, it seems to read he was 13 years when called up for the 2006 U21 squad, IF I'm reading it write. Darkson (BOOM! An interception!) 05:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be some sort of section saying why Nani chooses to use a completely random (and stupid) name?
Or a section saying he ignores his real name because he isn't proud of his heritage or something.... I don't know the actual reason....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.146.96 (talk) 00:17, 24 November 2008 (UTC) 
No, because most people are not idiots. :/ It's quite common for footballers with long names such as nani, c.ronaldo, Ronaldinho and many others to be referred by another name. Nothing to do with not being proud of there heritage and not really noteworthy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.218.244 (talk) 20:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC) 

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Reviewer: NiciVampireHeart 18:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Quick fail criteria
Has reliable sources 
Is written neutrally 
No valid cleanup tags 
Is relatively stable with no edit wars 
Not specifically concerned with a rapidly unfolding current event with a definite endpoint 
Full review to follow. NiciVampireHeart 18:50, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


### Full review
GA review (see here for criteria)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

Initial thoughts

2 links in the article need diambiguating: [2]
2 dead links which should be replaced if possible: [3]
My initial thought on reading through the article is that his youth career and time spent at Sporting CP is 'glossed' over. There’s a lot more detail on his ManU career. Try and expand out the early part of the article if possible: the early life and the Sporting CP sections.
Early life suggestions:
Why was he raised by his aunt?
Siblings?
Schools?
Heros/idols?
There's some problems with overlinking in the article as well, e.g. Cristiano Ronaldo is linked several times throughout the article. Link only the first occurence. And make sure it's the first occurence that is linked, e.g. you've linked Old Trafford the second time it appears in the article, but not the first.
Prose
The infobox says he plays as a winger/forward, the lead just says winger. Which is correct? They should be consistent.
In the lead you say he's "commonly known as Nani". I was expecting some explanation as to why later on in the article. It's not part of his birth name, so it's obviously some sort of nickname. Is there any information on where he got it? When he first started to be called Nani, etc?
"imigrated" is spelt with 2 m's.
"the attention of Manchester United, who eventually secured his services". Remove 'eventually'. He attracted their attention before the start of the 2007-08 season, and he signed before the start of the 2007-08 season. That's not "eventually" signing.
"would often kick a ball about together" is very informal. Why not say "used to play football together"?
"five percent of which was paid to Real de Massamá"? Why? There’s no mention of “Real de Massamá” previously. Did they train him or something? Also is there a link for Real de Massamá?
Cannot find any article explaining why Real de Massamá recieved a five percent cut.
I don't think that this is too worrisome any more, since Real de Massamá is mentioned as one of his first clubs. It's not just randomly thrown into the article, leaving the reader going "huh?". NiciVampireHeart 16:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
"the Red Devils". Who? The fact that this is a nickname for ManU is not explained anywhere, and those unfamiliar with football will be confused by it.
"which set the ball rolling to a 4–1 win" seems very informal. Suggest rewording.
"It was the first game in which it was thought that Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tévez showed the first real promise of forming a good strike partnership." Irrelevant to this article.
"With the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid, there would be many wanting to take over free-kick duties and Nani put his mark down as first choice". This doesn’t really make sense. Also what’s the relevancy? Did he become first choice? Was the fact he wasn’t first choice part of the reason why he wanted to leave?
"After many disappointing games at United, Nani hit out at Sir Alex Ferguson and his man management tactics, which looked to seal his place out of the Old Trafford club with his intention to leave". Doesn’t make sense, especially the last part. Reword please.
"On 31 January 2010, Nani produced a sublime piece of skill to set up the first goal in the 3–1 league victory over Arsenal, tricking his way past Gaël Clichy and Samir Nasri he then stepped aside Denilson before lifting the ball to the far post, where keeper Manuel Almunia could only palm the ball into his own net." Run-on sentence. Problems with pov as well.
"Just four minutes later he then teed up Wayne Rooney for his 100th Premier League goal" - it's not clear whose 100th Premier League goal is being referred to here.
"Following this matured performance, Nani then set up the second of a 5–0 home win over Portsmouth, however just four days later he was sent off for a lunge at Stiliyan Petrov against Aston Villa, which resulted in a three match ban and ruled him out of the League Cup final." Run-on sentence. Split into 2.
"rewarded for his recent performances with a new four-year contract at United, committing himself until 2014." His contract was a reward?
"Despite being 3–2 and eventually winning the game, Bayern knocked United out on away goals with the aggregate score being ending 4–4." --> "Despite United winning the game, they were eliminated from the competiton due to the away goals rule when the aggregate score was 4–4."
"On 26 May 2010, it was confirmed by the Dubious Goals Panel that Nani's effort against Arsenal at the Emirates is awarded as his goal and not an Almunia own goal, thus ending his season with 7 goals and not 6." What goal at Arsenal? This is very random. There's no mention until this point that one of his goals was disputed.
"Nani scored a controversial second goal" - why was it controversial?
"in Portugal's 4–2 friendly defeat against Denmark" --> "in Portugal's 4–2 friendly defeat to Denmark".
"and setting up the third goal for Portugal". Wrong tense. Should be "and set up the third goal for Portugal"
"Nani was influential in the 2010 World Cup playoff against Bosnia and Herzegovina: in the first leg sending in a pin-point cross to Bruno Alves who scored with a header, giving Portugal a one goal advantage going into the second leg away in Bosnia. Nani again set up the goal, sending a clever pass to the feet of Raúl Meireles who slotted it into the bottom left hand corner. Portugal won the playoff 2–0 and qualified for the 2010 World Cup." A few things: a) was it this playoff that cemented their qualification? If that needs to be explicitly noted. b) "Nani again set up the goal" - what goal? The second goal of the tie? Clarify. c) some POV with "clever pass" and "pin-point cross".
"On 8 June 2010, just three days before the World Cup's opening game takes place" --> On 8 June 2010, three days before the opening game of the World Cup".
I don't like the celebration section down at the bottom on its own. I;'d suggest a) moving it up to above statistics and honours sections, and b) integrating it with a 'Style of play' section.
"For a while, it was widely reported" - one source in the article states that his celebration has been banned. That's not 'widely' reported.
"Nani decided to set the record straight; "That is not true", he said. "Ferguson has never spoken to me about this subject and I am going to continue to celebrate goals in this way. The conversations he has had with me are normal conversations, like he has with all players." --> "Nani denounced the reports in August 2007, stating that is was "not true" and that "Ferguson has never spoken to me about this subject and I am going to continue to celebrate goals in this way. The conversations he has had with me are normal conversations, like he has with all players."
References
Entire Sporting CP section is unreferenced.
"He also scored with a stunning strike against Middlesbrough, which set the ball rolling to a 4–1 win." Source?
"Nani was the youngest member of the Portugal squad at the 2006 UEFA Under-21 Championship." Source?
"Nani's form for Manchester United during the 2007–08 season ultimately earned him a call-up to Luiz Felipe Scolari's 23-man squad for Euro 2008, alongside club team-mate Cristiano Ronaldo." Can you source that his was his performances for United that earned him a call-up?
"his man of the match performance against Malta in which he opened the scoring in the 13th minute with a low, left footed volley and setting up the third goal for Portugal midfielder Miguel Veloso." The source (reference 61) says nothing about him being man of the match, says he scored the fourth goal, not the first, and there is no mention of a 'Miguel Veloso'.
"The celebration derives from Nani's background in capoeira, which he used to practice as a child." Source?
Several of the sources to ManU's website appear to redirect to the homepage, which doesn't verify the info:
Reference numbers: 6, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 22, 25, 32, 49, and 51.
I think reference 66 is a footnote, not a source? If so, please split it out into its own section.
References 64 and 65 should have |publisher=British Broadcasting Corporation  added for consistency with the other references from BBC. 
POV
"stunning strike"
"this coming before he revealed his frustrating injury problems that have cursed his United career"
"great performance"
"dramatic turnabout"
"sublime piece of skill"
"matured performance"
"good work"
"fine chipped finish"
Conclusion
This needs a good bit of work to reach GA status, but it's achieveable.
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NiciVampireHeart 16:01, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
I feel I have done as much as I could, if you feel there is more to do then let me know.
Healy6991 (talk) 13:37, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Drive by Comment - There's still a couple of WP:MOS problems. Remember that years don't need to be repeated in the prose after first mention. Also, all references need to be after punctuation. Some of the prose seems to be a bit difficult as well since it's very score and date heavy Spiderone 11:27, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks to Spiderone for his help.
I did a quick copyedit of the article myself just to clear up some remaining prose/grammar issues.
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Nami got his nickname from his sister. So by using the nickname he is honouring his sister and family.
What the heck is stupid about that?!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.108.70.42 (talk) 10:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC) 

I've removed all references to the name "Luis Nani" from this article as it is a complete misnomer. Nani is his nickname, which people sometimes add "Luis" to in the belief that "Nani" is his surname. The Press Association is particularly guilty of this, although I believe that their error stems from a limitation of the software they use to record football stats; every player's entry in their database needs a first name and surname, so for Nani, they've put "Luis Nani". Same goes for Anderson, who they often refer to as "Anderson Oliveira". – PeeJay 13:15, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Nani is coming to Istanbul today, the club stated that his plane will be arriving to İstanbul at 20:00 and tomorrow there will be a open signing ceremony in the club's stadium. The owner of the plane that he is coming with and also the number he is going to wear in his new club is all stated. Club's offical television channel, Fenerbahçe TV has stated that there will be live feed from the plane that he is coming in.Rivaner (talk) 12:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

He will update the article when he signs and is subject to a medical. SLBedit (talk) 16:18, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
OK then. Sorry for making an early edit. After tomorrow's signing ceremony, either he or me will update the article. Thanks for taking the time to answer my post.Rivaner (talk) 16:23, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Birth place showing to Cape Verde but Turkish Football Federation official site and Portuguese Football Federation official site writing Amadora, Portugal. Portuguese Football Federation site showing for other nation birth place like this and this, Regadrs, Fenerli1978 (talk) 04:29, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I can't explain that. While he was in England, his birth place was always reported as Praia. – PeeJay 12:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
In fact, it doesn't make sense for him to have been born in Amadora then moved to Praia, since he began his career with Real Sport Clube in Queluz. This source states that he grew up in Santa Filomena, which overlooks Amadora. So maybe he identifies more with Amadora since he grew up there, but based on the sources available, I'd say he was definitely born in Praia. – PeeJay 12:44, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
No one is claiming he moved to Praia, either he was born in Praia and moved to Portugal as a baby or he was already born in Portugal and never lived in Cape Verde. According to Manchester United's website a while ago he was born in Praia while according to the Portuguese Football Federation website, the Turkish Federation website and himself in an interview to the Cape Verdean newspaper Nha Terra he was born in Portugal. --Joaommx (talk) 14:50, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
He says he was born in Amadora (Portugal), and explains that:
http://www.nhaterra.com.cv/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=1330
--85.54.203.69 (talk) 23:26, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Trophies he's won aren't listed!!! 88.115.201.50 (talk) 21:19, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Edit: It's fixed.88.115.201.50 (talk) 01:05, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

He says he was born in Amadora, Lisbon,(Portugal), and explains that here:
http://www.nhaterra.com.cv/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=1330
--Trucoplus (talk) 12:20, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I think it is Amadora, Portugal. That above link is now dead, but can be seen from the Wayback Machine here. This Portuguese Football Federation source also states he was born in Amadora. I think these two sources alone are substantial enough to say he was born in Amadora, but was of Cape Verde descent. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 14:36, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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