# Talk:Kips Bay Towers

@Epicgenius does the April 23, 1961 article from the New York Herald Tribune say the original shopping center had 12 stories? I wasn't sure if this was a typo and supposed to be 12 stores or 1-2 stories; I don't have access to this newspaper so I couldn't check it myself. It looks like the shopping center might have only been 1 or 2 stories tall based on the photos and sketches on the Kips Bay Plaza project page from Pei Cobb Freed & Partners and a 1966 photo of Kips Bay Plaza from Second Avenue that shows the shopping center from the Museum of the City of New York. Transpoman (talk) 04:30, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@Transpoman, the source says 12 stores, not stories. My bad; I must have mistyped something. Epicgenius (talk) 04:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
@Epicgenius thanks for checking this and updating the article! It is helpful to know that it had a dozen stores and wasn't just a bank, cinema and supermarket. One of the other stores in the shopping center would end up becoming the pilot location for a chain of pizza restaurants owned by Rocky Graziano called Rocky Graziano's Pizza Ring. Transpoman (talk) 04:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Would this article benefit from having a site map that shows the location of key components on the superblock (e.g., north tower, south tower, garden, playground, shopping center, Greenberg Hall, etc.) If so, an OSM Location map could be added, similar to what was done for University Village. Transpoman (talk) 22:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)