# Talk:Cat

When I last lookoed at this, must have been about 30 years ago, there were 3-4 criteria for whether a cat was a "big" cat or a "little" cat. At that time, despite its size, the domestic cat was considered a "big cat". Is this still the case? I understand that criteria have changed? 2001:8003:E46B:3E01:293E:E86:AAE6:E787 (talk) 10:51, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

It was never considered a big cat. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:26, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Big cat says: The term "big cat" is typically used to refer to any of the five living members of the genus Panthera, namely the tiger, lion, jaguar, leopard, and snow leopard.  Our little friend is in genus Felis. —Tamfang (talk) 03:32, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply, but I find it confusing. I can recall quite clearly discussing with a cat lover, about 30 years ago, the reasons (which I dont recall) that the domestic cat was indeed considered a big cat. Are you sure of this? 2001:8003:E46B:3E01:699E:B9EF:682D:66D1 (talk) 09:10, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Absolutely !! And what did your "cat lover friend" at the time consider to be a small cat ? BhagyaMani (talk) 11:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Since you cannot recall any of the criteria for such inclusion, I am inclined to dismiss this as a product of faulty memory.  I, of course, never misremember anything. —Tamfang (talk) 21:32, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

@FredTheDeadHead: Again, if the source says With seabirds present on islands, birds are found on average in 60% of the guts or scats of cats on islands [1] that does not necessarily support your revision, that says On islands with seabirds up to 60% of cats consume birds. I'll note that @Traumnovelle: is also reverting you [2], so you should not be reverting this back into the article without seeking consensus here first. 
Since we're discussing it, I don't know what this factoid is meant to convey, other than as a vague cats on islands are particularly destructive observation, that could probably be expressed in more encyclopedic manner, or perhaps be removed as redundant if the article is already hitting that point. I don't find the source, a text on cat behavior,  whose authors endorse letting cats roam at will outdoors in most cases (on page 70), because they believe this is necessary for the cats' welfare, to be particularly reliable for cats vs. wildlife issues, and I think there are better sources available for this aspect in conservation biology journals. Geogene (talk) 16:56, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

The original sentence is not supported by the source. You are welcome to make an improvement, but restoring a factually incorrect sentence does not make sense.
> so you should not be reverting this back into the article without seeking consensus here first.
This judgement is hypocritical. Why do you yourself not seek consensus? FredTheDeadHead (talk) 19:37, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
After reading the source the original claim 'On islands, birds can contribute as much as 60% of a cat's diet.' is not supported by it and should be either removed or rewritten. It states 60% of cats gut/scat content (on average) contains evidence of bird consumption. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:39, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

BhagyaMani you deleted some live URLs from cites saying they're not needed if there's a DOI [3]. I've never heard that before, can you cite a PAG that recommends deleting live URLs from citations? Geogene (talk) 13:44, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Check the dois yourself to see that they redirect to the urls. – BhagyaMani (talk) 13:48, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
You can check the doi and add |doi-access=free which will then add the link to the title. There is a comment at the end of the identifier section of the cite journal documentation about not adding duplicate urls. It doesn't say delete them but gives a reason to leave them free.  —  Jts1882  | talk  14:54, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

The fitness gram pacer test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. 65.51.53.243 (talk) 12:26, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 13:29, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

"studies concludes" should be changed to "studies conclude," in the last sentence of the first paragraph of the section. 2604:2D80:2480:5900:2C69:8EE6:76F9:2194 (talk) 12:41, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

 Done I wonder if "studies conclude" should be changed to "studies indicate".  —  Jts1882  | talk  14:12, 16 October 2025 (UTC)