# Talk:Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104

I have restored the referencing format used by Gerda Arendt, the article's creator and sole contributor of the content and all but one of references. The later reversion of her formatting citing WP:CITEVAR was not remotely supported by the contents of that page which refers to the formatting and layout of the individual reference content. There is absolutely no way in which Gerda's formatting of her original references by using the List parameter of {{Reflist}} changed the way the content of each reference was laid out in the original version, not did it switch between referencing styles nor did change the style and layout of the one reference added by another contributor. In addition to that, it is, in my view, a preferable way to format and greatly facilitates any future changes to the text. Voceditenore (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
You are incorrect in your interpretation of CITEVAR, as changes to the way references are presented in editing are still changes. Nevertheless, let's leave it. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:56, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Nikki -- if you really believe that the above interpretation of CITEVAR is incorrect, then the proper place for you to discuss that would be at CITEVAR's talkpage. With mention here that you are doing so.  The issue is less article-specific, than CITEVAR-specific. If, however, you believe you made a mistake in your above statement, it's probably best for you to drop it. Epeefleche (talk) 22:21, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
The general issue has already been discussed at that page, where consensus was that switching to LDR from another established style is in fact a CITEVAR issue. The specific application of that issue to this article is appropriately discussed here, but as I've said, "let's leave it". Nikkimaria (talk) 00:45, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Please provide a link to that discussion that reflected a consensus.  It would inform us.  And consensus can change -- perhaps it bears revisiting and/or clarification, if it is precisely as you say. Epeefleche (talk) 00:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia_talk:Citing_sources/Archive_35#Using_list-defined_references. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:19, 8 May 2014 (UTC)