# Talk:Central America under Mexican rule

Hey there! I'm working on this copy edit for the March 2023 GOCE drive. Since it's a longer article, I have some notes. Some of the issues that arose require a bit more work than a basic copy edit, so I've summarized them here. I can come back to this article, but I'm also pinging @PizzaKing13 who did a great job of getting this to GA status.
Things to do:

This links to a disambiguation page, which isn't ideal. I think we should either try to create a list article for these specific wars, or just list them by name.
On 1 July 1823, the Central American congress declared independence from Mexico and established the United Provinces of Central America, later known as the Federal Republic of Central America, which existed until its dissolution in 1841 after a series of civil wars.
I've mentioned both by name.
Define New Spain at its first mention.
Defined
General point of clarification: it's unclear what exactly we are talking about when we say Central America. Are we talking about Central America (geographic region including Belize and Panama) or Central America (set of provinces in the First Mexican Empire)? I think it differs in different sentences. This might take some work to parse out.
See also: Central America#Different definitions
It only refers to the provinces of the First Mexican Empire. It should all be referring to Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Costa Rica + Belize which was a part of Guatemala and Chiapas which split from Guatemala.
Need secondary source, as this is a primary source and does not make evident the notability of this incident.
In 2017, the far-right Nationalist Front of Mexico called for the reincorporation of Central America to Mexico in its "25-Point Program".
Finding another source on that is basically impossible, I exhausted all my research trying to find that one source.
Ideally the Captaincy government section's table has refs (although they're obviously in the paragraph above, so this isn't critical).
Also, I've replaced instances of "Agustín I" and "Iturbide" with "Agustín", consistent with Agustín de Iturbide.
I'll probably have a little bit more as I continue working through the article! Wracking 💬 07:50, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

@Wracking: Thanks for taking the time to copyedit this! PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 16:27, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Pinging you again @PizzaKing13! Most of these notes are about things I would have changed myself, but wanted to double-check.

As for my concerns about the meaning of Central America, I think it's clear as long as we don't link to Central America in anywhere else except the lead. I got confused when it was linked in other sections.
There's a sentence I already reworded, and I call attention to it just in case. I double checked with the source, but I wanted to make sure I haven't misrepresented the intended meaning.
Republican Gregorio José Ramírez was declared as the leader of Costa Rica in opposition of Oreamuno in the city of Alajuela on 1 April 1823.
was changed to
On 1 April 1823, in Alajuela, republican Gregorio José Ramírez was declared leader of the opposition.
(we could possibly tack on "to Oreamuno" to the end, if needed, but I think it's pretty clear based on the preceding and succeeding sentences.)
Ramírez was basically declared as a rival claimant political chief of Costa Rica. That second sentence (to me) implies he was declared the leader of an opposition faction within a government (which wasn't the case), since they effectively established an entire other government.
From a cursory check of the source, I couldn't clarify this one myself. Could we add either "their decision" (the Mexican congress') or "the Central American congress' decision" to this sentence for clarification?
The Mexican congress did instruct him, however, to respect the congress' decision whether to remain in union with Mexico or to become an independent state.
Added "Central American".
Another one I wasn't able to clarify myself: Did Filísola actually resign and withdraw in response to this boycott, or was that just an (unmet) condition of Chiapas, Costa Rica, Honduras, and Nicaragua?
Chiapas, Costa Rica, Honduras, and Nicaragua boycotted the conference until Filísola resigned as captain general and withdrew all Mexican forces from Central America.
None of the sources mentioned that he resigned, so yes it was an unmet condition. I amended the sentence to make this less ambigious.
Could we remove the passive voice from this sentence for clarity? I'm pretty sure it's Mexico doing this, but I wasn't 100% sure, so left it as-is.
In an attempt to alleviate the debt and economic troubles, a tariff law was passed in 1822—placing taxes on various exports from Central America—and the exporting of coins was made illegal.
possibly to
In an attempt to alleviate its debt and economic troubles, Mexico passed a tariff law in 1822, placing taxes on various exports from Central America, and made the exporting of coins illegal.
This law was passed by the captaincy general government, so I substituted the current sentence with your suggestion and changed Mexico to captaincy general.
I don't think I'll have many more notes! I'll do a final read-through tomorrow and then check it off my list. Wracking 💬 08:07, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Wracking: Responded, thanks for the comments! PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 08:31, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Last time @PizzaKing13 :] Alright, I did my final read-through! Thanks for all your work on responding to my suggestions! Just one note for this one, otherwise I think it's in pretty good shape.

I did further editing on the boycott sentence that I wanted to note, in case it misses the mark.
Chiapas, Costa Rica, Honduras, and Nicaragua stated that they would boycott the conference until Filísola resigns as captain general and withdraws all Mexican forces from Central America.
to this
Chiapas, Costa Rica, Honduras, and Nicaragua stated that they would boycott the conference in an attempt to make Filísola resign as captain general and withdraw all Mexican forces from Central America.
Wracking 💬 05:48, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Wracking: The first sentence is more correct, since none of the sources mention that they were attempting to make Filísola resign. "Some nationalist localities refused to send representatives until Filísola had retired with his Mexican troops" (Stanger 1932, p. 40). "The Congress opened on June 29, 1823, with representatives of Honduras, Nicaragua, Chiapas, and Costa Rica absent" (Kenyon 1961, p. 240), a footnote explains the Mexican military presence is why they boycotted the congress. Anyway, thanks for the CE!PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 07:44, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
@PizzaKing13: Got it—that's why I wanted to check! And no problem. Wracking 💬 08:06, 5 March 2023 (UTC)