# Talk:Effects of the 1928 Okeechobee hurricane in Florida

There's a Harv warning that I think is apparently caused by the usage of the Template:Atlantic hurricane best track - {{Atlantic hurricane best track}}. I can't quite figure out how to fix the warning. The reference reads out as:

"Atlantic hurricane best track (HURDAT version 2)" (Database). United States National Hurricane Center. May 11, 2024. Public Domain This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain.
Landsea, Chris (April 2022). "The revised Atlantic hurricane database (HURDAT2) - Chris Landsea – April 2022" (PDF). Hurricane Research Division – NOAA/AOML. Miami: Hurricane Research Division – via Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory.
The Harv error script then states the following "Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFLandsea2022." Help. Thanks in advance. - Shearonink (talk) 03:11, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Not my fault.  All that my edits did was to change {{cite web|...}} to {{#invoke:cite|web|...}}.  Previewing this article with this version (permalink) of {{Atlantic hurricane best track}} (the version before my edits) gives the same result.

The warning is correct; in this article, there are no {{sfn}} or {{harv}} templates linking to the Landsea 2022 source.  {{Atlantic hurricane best track}} is used in ~500 articles so perhaps Landsea 2022 is commonly linked.  You might rewrite {{Atlantic hurricane best track}} to add |ref={{{ref-landsea|}}} to the Landsea {{cite web}}.  That would allow you to write {{Atlantic hurricane best track|ref-landsea=none}} and so suppress the warning message.  For completeness you might also add |ref={{{ref-hurdat|}}} so that {{Atlantic hurricane best track}} can be the target of a {{sfn}} or {{harv}} template.

We might also ping Editor CapeVerdeWave to see if we can get an explanation for the (apparently invalid) double splat unordered-list markup (**).  That markup must follow a single splat unordered-list markup (**).
—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:21, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Oh I didn't think it was your fault, I just know that you are much more technically adept in Wiki-ways and figured you might be able to help. I tried and tried to understand and fix the issue and it took me forever just to find the Template...
I know the warning is correct, the script is doing its job. I'll try your suggestions in Preview and see what happens. Thanks - Shearonink (talk) 17:51, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Wait...you're saying I should fool around with the Template/"Atlantic hurricane best track"? And I guess that the best track thingy is probably doing the same thing in other articles. Eek, am always concerned about breaking things around here but maybe I'll take a stab at it and hope I don't kill the patient... - Shearonink (talk) 17:57, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
That's what sandboxen are for: Template:Atlantic hurricane best track/sandbox is your friend no matter what you do.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:19, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Ah, bless you kind monk. - Shearonink (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Lol, I tried and tried to figure out what to do and finally have given up. Your instructions, I am certain, are not to blame. It's just that I am so not a coder of any stripe, I can edit and move words around like a master. Thanks anyway. - Shearonink (talk) 18:30, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Trappist the monk Am opening up a template sandbox to work on this but in the meantime came across something else... The Template is used in List of Category 4 Atlantic hurricanes but is not throwing a Harv warning there. Why. - Shearonink (talk) 15:35, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
PS - Is there a reason for the three {{{ around {{{ref-landsea}}} and some other coding stuff above? Thanks. - Shearonink (talk) 15:|39, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
Well, new code rarely survives first contact with reality.  I modified the sandbox to do what I suggested.  To test it, I replaced all calls to {{Atlantic hurricane best track}} in this article with {{Atlantic hurricane best track/sandbox}}.  In order to get it to work I had to comment out the calls to {{Strongest Florida landfalling hurricanes}} and {{Most intense landfalling Florida hurricanes}} which also cite HURDAT2 (different content error because those two templates were using the live version of {{Atlantic hurricane best track}}).

But, having spent more time with this template, I've come to understand that Landsea won't be cited within an article because that source is only there to serve as a decoding key for the data in the HURDAT2 source; in other words, it has nothing to do with the 1928 Okeechobee hurricane (or any other hurricane) so we can safely set |ref=none on the Landsea sub-template.  I've kept support for |ref={{{ref-hurdat|{{sfnRef|NOAA|2024}}}}}}} so that the template can use a different anchor ID or suppress anchor ID creation.  I used the {{#tag:ref|...}} markup because |ref-hurdat= gets lost when using <ref>...</ref> tags.  I also did some cleanup; too much redundant stuff cluttering the citations.

In article text, we assign information to a parameter (like |ref-hurdat=none for example).  Inside the template, we refer to that information with the triple-braces markup.  Inside the template, to get the value assigned to |ref-hurdat= for the {{cite web}} template parameter |ref=, we write |ref={{{ref-hurdat}}}.  For more, see Help:Template.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:53, 27 July 2025 (UTC)