# Talk:Compilation of Final Fantasy VII

Hmmm. I'm not exactly sure if the Snowboarding game has been officially put into the Compilation of FFVII or not. I assumed that the people who wanted to know information about the Compilation would naturally be interested Final Fantasy VII fans, and a little bit of extra knowledge can't hurt. As mentioned by you, I don't think 2 articles will suffice. I still say we keep the two titles there, but have it say "Not part of Compilation". Renegade Zero 05:51, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It hasn't: it's just a reasonably cute little cell phone game, and has gone through not of the extensive development of the other Compilation games. I'm not even sure it was developed by the same production crew (Nomura and Kitase), and it's never, to my knowledge, been mentioned as part of the compilation. My concern is that including things like the Snowboarding game kind of recreates the article as a something much more broad than it actually is: it's not Final Fantasy VII spin-offs, it's about a distinct series of games. It would perhaps make more sense, IMO, to have a link to the Final Fantasy VII technical demo and Final Fantasy VII Snowboarding from the main Final Fantasy VII article, if we have links anywhere. Maybe include a small section heading in the article, with a sentence or two each describing the two games, and a third entry of roughly similar length discussing the Compilation series in general (with appropriate links, of course, to the larger articles). And, indeed, it probably couldn't hurt to have "see also" links to both other games from this article. But I really think it would be a mistake to set aside an entire heading of the article to discuss something that this article is not about (like having a section of the Final Fantasy IX article dedicated to describing Final Fantasy X, or something...). – Seancdaug 06:22, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
The difference is that they are almost two completely different games apart from only the name and certain referrences. Technically speaking, it's not part of the Compilation but is a division of Final Fantasy VII, just like Before Crisis for example.
What about FF Snowboarding?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.56.57.218 (talk) 22:32, 15 June 2013 (UTC) 

I removed the two entries (Final Fantasy VII Snowboarding and Final Fantasy VII Technical Demo) that aren't, technically speaking, part of the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII series. They were clearly labeled as such, which is good, but it seemed a little too confusing to have them tacked on to the end of the article. People interested in miscellaneous series spinoffs can find them in the Final Fantasy spin-offs category. That being said, it might actually be worth adding a new subcat to the above category to cover FF7 spin-offs. The Compilation category could be moved into a subcat of that, and we could also include things like the above two entries and Ehrgeiz. Does anyone think this would be a worthwhile endeavor? My only concern would be whether or not there are enough non-Compilation titles to justify the new category.... – Seancdaug 19:20, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Maybe I'm being terminally dense, but the AdventChildren.net link that keeps getting inserted into all the Final Fantasy VII related articles really doesn't seem to cover much other than, well, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. It's got some interesting news items relating to a variety of FF7 spin-offs, but, by and large, such news items are transient, and are going to disappear after a few weeks/months. While the AC information is indeed impressive, and should be linked from the Advent Children article, and probably this page, as well, it strikes me as overkill to throw a link onto every single Final Fantasy VII page. Wikipedia is not a web directory, and we should really strive to ensure that every external link we include is the best of the best as far as the subject of the article goes. – Seancdaug 06:46, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Despite the URL, the site does indeed have extensive information on the entire compilation. The staff over there, where I used to work, does not incorporate the rest of the Compilation on the front page, but it is actually inside the forum. The forum is one of the largest Final Fantasy forums on the internet, and possesses extensive information on the Compilation. Uematsu even knows about them. I would by lieing to say that it's not adverising, but as previously mentioned in "Non Compilation titles", many of the viewers of the articles that has Adventchildren.net at the end, are indeed Final Fantasy VII fans, and the site as well as it's forums are immensely popular and the viewers will benefit from it. Renegade Zero 09:24, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The thing is, Wikipedia is not a fan site. It's a reference source. The question of whether or not Final Fantasy VII fans would find a site interesting is not a valid rubric by which to judge whether a link is relevant. The question is, does the link relate directly to the material being discussed in the article, and is it a useful resource for the uninitiated. And discussion forums very rarely are, to be honest. The news stories are, on the other hand, worthwhile in the general sense, but the transitory nature of those stories mean that linking it to every title within the Compilation would be a mistake. If someone came upon the link on the Dirge of Cerberus article at a time when, for instance, there was nothing new to report about Dirge of Cerberus, it would be unlikely to do more than annoy him/her. If there is substantial, permanent information on, say, Dirge of Cerberus or Crisis Core on the site, then, yes, it might indeed be worthwhile to include that information. But if it's not apparent how to actually access that information from the main page, then we should either not include the link, or link directly to the part of the site containing the relevant information. And it certainly doesn't belong in Final Fantasy VII, as that article does not deal with the Compilation in any substantial manner. None of which, I want to be absolutely clear, is a knock against the site itself: I'd not heard of it before, and it's already made its way into my bookmarks (which, for me, is a fairly impressive distinction). But there are literally hundreds of Final Fantasy-related sites on the Internet, and we can't include links to them all in every article.... – Seancdaug 00:44, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
theres a sister site DirgeOfCerebrus.net, and they are working on a website of each game of the compilation. FF7Compilation.net has links to both AC and DoC sites, and has placeholders for the others. I'll go ahead and change AdventChildren.net to FF7Compilation.net.--Undc23 06:30, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

There hasn't been any kind of official announcement of this even existing, has there? Or have I just completely missed this piece of news? There's no seperate page with any details/sources, none of the external links mention it, it doesn't seem to be backed up by anything. Kamina 14:08, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

It's definately news to me. I can't find anything on it via Google. Maybe we should remove it in accordance with the Wikipedia is not a crystal ball policy. — Cuahl File:NotAfraid.gif 7/7  — 14:57, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
I made a vfd page for the article here here Because I believe it  to be a fake. I also put notification on this article.
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A discussion can be found here. ~ Hibana 19:45, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

A discussion can be found here. Kariteh 18:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Final Fantasy VII#Related media and merchandise should be merged into this article; the content has nothing to do with the actual game. Voyaging(talk) 16:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

It's a common style in video game articles to have a section on derived products and merchandise. As such, Compilation of FFVII is mentioned in two short, small sentences in that section.
"Maiden who Travels the Planet" and "On the Way to a Smile" are also mentioned for this reason. FFVII Snowboarding is mentioned because there was a consensus to merge the article into the main FFVII article.
I don't realy see how information about the (unnannounced) remake and the PS3 technology demo has nothing to do with the actual game.
The paragraph after the update/expand tag is meant to include information on promotional stuff and merchandise; it's totally fine for a game article to have this kind of information.
And overall, these paragraphs have nothing to do with Compilation of FFVII, apart from the two first sentences and the quote from Hajime Tabata. Kariteh (talk) 17:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I realize that saying this makes me a 'n00b', but these articles seem to have been organized and written by people who forget that there are those who are not quite as familiar with the games and series as they are. Having missed out when the game first came out, I've been looking to get into the series, but I've read this and the related articles over several times and still cannot figure out the chronological order of the games. It says Crisis Core is a prequel to the original, but Before Crisis is also a prequel. Advent Children is a sequel, Dirge of Cerebrus is a sequel, but Last Order is another prequel. All of these only use the original FFVII as a reference point without giving any more information. Could someone perhaps list the games in chronological order alongside the regular list (which I assume is by release date)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.207.114 (talk) 07:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC) 

I can't help, but for the record, I have the same complaint. --DocumentN (talk) 05:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I also would like to know more about the Chronological order of the games, and while I realize that Final Fantasy VII itself is not part of the compilation, it should at least be mentioned in a timeline. Dakmordian (talk) 11:59, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

"Compilation of Final Fantasy VII

   * Games
         o Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII
         o Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII
         o Dirge of Cerberus Lost Episode: Final Fantasy VII
         o Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII"

...Where is the original Final Fantasy VII? Cos the original is obviously part of the compilation... LuGiADude (talk) 14:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

No it isn't. Kariteh (talk) 14:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
It's called Compilation of FINAL FANTASY VII. How can the original not be part of it???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by LuGiADude (talk • contribs) 14:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
It is a series of sequels and prequels to Final Fantasy VII. Final Fantasy VII is not its own prequel or sequel. Kariteh (talk) 14:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
But it is a sequel to a prequel (Crisis Core) and a prequel to a sequel (Advent Children) ;)LuGiADude (talk) 14:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
What about Final Fantasy VII: Last Order?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.42.133.239 (talk) 03:17, 24 August 2012 (UTC) 

the compilation of final fantasy vii is a series of games related to final fantasy vii. The prequels and sequels of final fantasy vii. The original game isnt a sequel nor prequel. Those terms are used when it is released afterward. A prequel cant be called a prequel if it is released first as the main feature.Lucia Black (talk) 04:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you Graham! Deryck C. 13:16, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

So....[this is I guess what you'd call a compilation complication]. According to the man in charge, Remake is officially the fifth installment in the series. Given the ending, it should be obvious but now it's a proper confirmation. Still....I honestly don't know how to go about implementing it, so you folks discuss it! --72.184.60.96 (talk) 16:22, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Siliconera gameplay
Gematsu beta
--ProtoDrake (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Final Fantasy VII chronology, which is used on this article and associated articles, is being discussed at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 July 16. There is also a more general discussion regarding the use of similar chronology templates at WT:VG. Musashi1600 (talk) 14:43, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

And eventually Remake part 3. Has anyone ever seen a reputable source explicitly state that the Remake trilogy fall under the Compilation of FFVII? This article is called "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII", not "Final Fantasy VII series." If there isn't definitive proof that these games are considered "Compilation", what do we do? I would see the following options:

Keep as is, even if it is inaccurate to call Remake and Rebirth part of Compilation
Remove any information implying that the Remake trilogy is part of Compilation and move references to such into the Legacy section, where the main articles for Remake, Rebirth, and eventually Remake Part 3 will be linked
Rename the article to Final Fantasy VII series (can't see this being popular)
Make a new page called Final Fantasy VII Remake trilogy (the case for this will probably be stronger when Part 3 comes out and we get more information about its development)
I know someone posted an article from Siliconera about this, and that news source is considered reliable, but Kitase doesn't explicitly say in his interview that Remake is a part of Compilation, just that they wanted to make a fifth installment.
ThePoggingEditor (talk) 05:44, 23 September 2025 (UTC)