# Talk:Lelouch Lamperouge

I've archived this because it's gotten out of hand. This is not a forum to discuss Lelouch's death, nor the place to attempt to discredit the sources based on beliefs one way or another. Wikipedia reports the facts, and in light of the fact that no source has explicitly stated that he may have survived beyond a question mark I dismissed below, no further discussion on this matter should occur unless new sources pop up. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 02:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
This may have already been brought up, but I don't suppose the videos of the uncut ending have any impact on this do they? Tigerlotus (talk) 08:03, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I know you really probably don't want to hear this, but I have facts and proff that show that Lelouch is still alive and I think you could add it to the article.
First, upon Lelouch's death, he transferred his memories of his plan to Nunnaly, Just as C.C has given her memories to Lelouch. Also let it be known that C.C also had to die once for her true immortality to begin, thus the picture of her laying on the floor of the Chapel bleeding all over the place.
Second, Lelouch has killed his father, so technically that should give him his fathers code, as Charels gained his code by killing V.V.
Third, C.C always felt that death would have been better then eternal life. In the altar when she was praying, she commented that Lelouch was making the "Ultimate Sacrifice" Now, knowing C.C, I think she would mean never being able to pass on, since that was even her wish.
And Fourth, It would be contridictory for C.C to deny that having the power of the king leads to a life of lonliness, if he, or she, were in fact, alone. With that said, I believe that Lelouch is alive somewhere, or, in fact, could have been the one driving the wagon.
Please consider these things.. I just want it to be put out there that there is even the smallest possibility of Lelouch's survival.
--Akumi Katsuya (talk) 23:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)Akumi Katsuya

In a word, no. That's original research and it will not be added. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 17:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Since it is ambiguous, I'm agreed with not adding it as a fact, but we should note the physical similarities shared by the cab driver that are shown. A good citation for this would be a youtube video of the last scene, like this one for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdb674lLlFk. This would stick closer to the facts without pushing any one conclusion, and also allow the reader to decide independently upon viewing the cited source.
Another, perhaps more appropriate option could be to add another section to the page specifically addressing this issue. Perhaps add a "controversy" subsection, in which the contextual clues can be noted while at the same time noting that no official source has confirmed his survival. The question is important for the interpretation of the show, so leaving the controversy unaddressed entirely on the official page actually withholds all the facts from the readers who don't happen to look at the talk page, so an unbiased noting of the debate should be included in some capacity.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.141.244 (talk) 16:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC) 

Seriously, stop the damn textwalls and drop the ridiculous fight. This isn't a forum to discuss if Lelouch died, nor is it the place to try to disprove that notion. Every source says he's dead. That is fact. Nothing else will be reported and the quite unnecessary amount of drama here isn't going to change the fact. The "(?)" in the Animage quote is not part of the original quote. The parentheses indicate that the text inside the parenthesis comes from the writer's own mouth. Therefore, there is no uncertainty. Also, stop trying to pin happy or tragic or anything like that to the interpretation. It comes across as opinion. That it's open to interpretation is enough. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 01:01, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

So that problem is resolved, but the problem still exists that the context of those particular statements was lost in translation, and wording it the way it is now is misleading. (Not to mention repetitive, because it's the exact same thing Okouchi said.) It wasn't lost in translation from Jap to Eng so much as it was from Writer/ Director to fanbase. No, it shouldn't have been lost, but unfortunately what would have been the simple obvious meaning of the statement has been largely obscured by an over popularization of fan theory. Thus in order for it not to automatically denote something that isn't canon, it must be clarified. The events of the ending are not open to interpretation; whether it was 'happy' or  'sad' in the fans' eyes is. And yes, 'happy' and 'sad' are Okouchi's exact words. If you don't like my wording certainly feel free to re-word it more cohesively, but I cannot accept it as it is now as it is misleading. Zero Requiem (talk) 01:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Could the quote from the director about the viewers' interpretations of the ending possibly be added to the article? - Pokemega32 (talk) 03:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

It's already there. I thought this discussion was over. Why are we still talking about this? Anyone else want to bring more repeat complaints to the table? Zero Requiem (talk) 01:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

DOES LELOUCH LAMPEROUGE HAVE A MIDDLE NAME?--0000ZERO (talk) 02:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I think that his name is Lelouch V. Britannia. So his real name begins with the letter V   UeArtemis (talk) 19:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
You may be right as vi is pronounced the same as V. in Japanese. Yet, we can savely assume as well as look it up in the supporting literature, that it is actually Lelouch vi Britannia, since all members of the imperial family bear such a strange or less strange particle in their last name - Odysseus u Britannia, Schneizel el Britannia, Cornelia & Euphemia li Britannia, Ricardo von Britannia and so forth.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.134.211.135 (talk) 06:08, 2 December 2010 (UTC) 

Lelouch's real name is Lelouch vi Britannia, not Lamperouge. It was long ago suggested on the talk page that the article be renamed to reflect this, and there was no disagreement. Could someone please get around to this? 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lelouch_Lamperouge&oldid=242463833#Lelouch_vi_Britannia_vs_Lamperouge  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.245.176 (talk) 02:18, 2 January 2010 (UTC) 

I admit I haven't kept up with the spin-off mangas and OVA, but I really don't see how Lelouch is considered a fictional twin. Delete? The Shady Red Lamp (talk) 23:32, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

There is a Rolo in a spinoff manga that is Lelouch's twin. I don't see how relevant is that for the article though.Tintor2 (talk) 02:31, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

It is clearly stated in the article itself that his "real name is Lelouch vi Britannia."   Given this fact, why IS the article not listed under it as such?  It is his actual name.  Lamperouge is a pseudonym he assumed to hide from would be assassination during his years in exile.  So even though the discussion was archived and closed; would somebody please tell me WHY this is the case?  Why is the article NOT listed by his real name?  It's like listing President Dwight D. Eisenhower under his nickname Ike Eisenhower.  I am not trying to restart the change campaign, I am only asking why this entry is listed as it is.  Jason Palpatine (talk) 10:04, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

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Stay tuned.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 22:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

"For the original video animation Code Geass: Akito the Exiled, director Kazuki Akane told the artists to dress them in just their underwear so they would not be able to hide their weapons, but as it was too pathetic, he told the staff that they were going to have to wear only their underwear." Can you explain this better?
Reworded.
"sense of ethics.[12][13][14][15][16] One such example was.." Is the interruction needed?
Reworded. This is quite a controversial section so it tends to be edited a lot. Guess I'll try requesting for protection in the future.
"Ōkouchi discussed the idea that while Lelouch is not a person who fights for justice, he would ally with other forces to rescue either Suzaku, C.C., or Nunnally." Source?
Done
"Fukuyama regarded Suzaku's new persona as Zero as his own way of paying for his sins. Suzaku killing Lelouch was decided by the staff ever since the series began." Wait. Wasn't Zero Lelouch new persona? Also, the last part is already mentioned in the previous section.
Reworded. Suzaku becomes the new Zero in the Code Geass finale to kill Lelouch as part of their requiem pan.
@Tintor2:. Sorry for the delay.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 11:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
@TeenAngels1234: No problems. Thanks for helping with the grammar.Tintor2 (talk) 18:33, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

The whole Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 is too long and detailed.
Cut
"but starts hallucinating memories from Rebellion". Rebellion in italics, I think?
Removed
"who starts punching him in anger until he falls asleep when C.C. claims that she is the one who wants the resurrection and not Lelouch." This sentence is too long and complicated. Also: maybe "she is the one who wanted" is better?
Revised
"Taking place 7 years after Zero Requiem while in the same alternate continuity of Re;surrection, Lelouch comes across Sakuya Sumeragi, the current princess of Japan and the child of Shery Me Britannia who is on the run from Neo Britannia, a nation formed by Britannian remnants who wished to restore the nation back to its prime of Charles' vision." Same. This is a looooong sentence.
Revised.
@Tintor2: That's all for now.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 16:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
@TeenAngels1234: Thanks. Revised everything.Tintor2 (talk) 17:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Okay. So, I just have to do a final reading of this article. Please, be patient. It's a relatively long article and I've been busy. If everything's fine, I'll pass it, since I already think it meets all the criteria.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 22:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay, again. Now. The article is well-written with a good prose. The topic is clearly described even if I didn't remember a single episode of the show. The sources are good. Passing it.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)