# Talk:Hatem Ben Arfa

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I notice that someone has added to this page that Ben Arfa has been transfered to Arsenal, but surely this shouldn't be here yet, as Arsenal themselves have not confirmed the transfer. For all we know this  may not be true, like when Arsenal apparently signed Hatem Trabelsi. Quincy042 (talk) 14:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Of course it shouldn't. There isn't even a reference. I've removed it. --Mark PEA (talk) 21:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=691233
Would it be worth putting in? 78.150.122.103 (talk) 05:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Nope. It's not confirmed from both sides. It's just in discussion stage. Not worth to put it in, yet. --Kyaw 2003 (talk) 08:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Can people please stop putting all these unfounded rumours in the article. Until it has been SPECIFICALLY confirmed otherwise, Ben Arfa is a Lyon player and anything else is just speculation and shouldn't be on this page. Quincy042 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 18:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC) 

Quote: "Ben Arfa had scored 105 times in 220 appearances for France Under-17 side"
I don't have the numbers, but I do know that this is impossible.
Correct - he's scored 15 times in 22 games for U/17s... Rusty8 (talk) 17:10, 23 April 2008 (UTC)Rusty8.
And can someone please fix the box with his stats in it on the right, I don't know how to do that. Cheers.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rusty8 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hatem Ben Arfa/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Sandman888 (talk) Latest FAC 13:43, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
There's some good things in here, but it doesn't read that well. The flow isn't very good I'm afraid. I'll put on hold for now. I've asked for a second opinion as I don't feel the flow is very good, but I'll leave that to another editor to judge. I don't have anything else to quibble about. Sandman888 (talk) Latest FAC 17:19, 16 August 2010 (UTC) After giving it a copyedit myself, I'm satisfied with the flow and I'll pass it. Congrats! Consider reviewing one or two of the other GANs as there is a heavy backlog. Sandman888 (talk) Latest PR 22:16, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Lead
remove "regularly" as that is your opinion.
Done  — Joao10Siamun (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
" thus ending a month-long transfer saga between the two clubs." remove, not important enough to be in lead
Done  — Joao10Siamun (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
and he is a former youth player, not was.
Done  — Joao10Siamun (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Career
"innate ability and passion for the sport" smacks of POV
Done  — Joao10Siamun (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
sections needs a good copyedit.
"One intriguing moment during the series came when Ben Arfa got into an argument with Abou Diaby, who now plays for English club Arsenal.[8]" why is this interesting?
I guess because it is "one intriguing moment from the series" and also kind of provides the first example of him "lacking discipline" as mentioned in the lead. — Joao10Siamun (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
"in great form" remove all words such as great, awesome and its like.
Done  — Joao10Siamun (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
only link UEFA Champions League once, and loose the UEFA in subsequent mentions.
Done  — Joao10Siamun (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't say whether he participated in the 2010 World Cup. Please mention it.
Done  — Joao10Siamun (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
References
A lot is to match reports, which I'm afraid doesn't back up a lot of prose. Try search for more newspaper articles on news.google.com or otherplaces. Remember that wikipedia prefers secondary sources, not primary such as UEFA and FFF match reports.

Can you be more specific as to what information in the prose needs to be referenced. I'll do it myself, but wouldn't mind the assistance. Oh and the protection template is going to be lifted later today and with his impending issues with his parent club and attempted transfer to Newcastle United, expect alot of vandalizing and unproper good faith edits from IPs. — Joao10Siamun (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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