# Talk:Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes

Should the article mention that in 2011 copies of the game as it was just before the C&D letter were released unofficially? I remember reading about it, though I don't know if it was on an RS. --PresN 21:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

If there's a reliable source, sure. Jonathan Hardin' (talk) 10:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Also, I believe the people who worked on the patch posted gameplay on Youtube.  And yes, the supposed 98% completed patch is circulating around filesharing and bittorrent sites.  It could just merely be an attempt by fans to complete an early released beta version.  I'll try to see if I can find a reliable source. Diesel Weasel 91 (talk) 02:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

You're getting mixed up with Flames of Eternity, which is a fan made attempt at completing the alpha version.  The leaked beta is the last version produced before the project was cancelled.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc1090 (talk • contribs) 09:43, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Wizardman (talk • contribs • count) 18:04, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
I will review this article shortly. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 18:04, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Here are the issues I found:

The plot feels overly lengthy, but at the same time I'm not really sure where to cut.
"emplaced in Porre's high command by the king." placed would probably work better.
Fixed. GamerPro64 17:57, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Just those couple things. I'll put the article on hold and pass when fixed. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Alright. Would you be able to try cutting some pieces of the plot that aren't necessary? Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:41, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't know what part of the plot is necessary. The game was cancelled so I don't know if something I cut would be important. GamerPro64 21:34, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Now that I think about it, because the game was cancelled, having a lengthy plot actually makes sense. If the game was available to play then the details wouldn't be needed, but since it's not it's good to know where the story goes. As a result, I'll close the review and pass the article. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 19:37, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Actually, the game is very much available to play, if you would take the time to Google it.  The fact that it's 98% rather than 100% complete shouldn't matter as far as the plot is concerned.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc1090 (talk • contribs) 09:32, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Sadly, most of the stuff (like the logos) were made by Chrono'99, who has fallen off the Internet. I'll ask Ramsus if he wants to release one of his sketches under CC. ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 03:01, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Ramsus got back to me; any of the Ramsus art here is creative commons. Hopefully we won't get to that stage of red tape, but I have the consenting e-mail in case it needs to become a ticket at the commons. 24.139.47.138 (talk) 03:27, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I thought it was worth mentioning that despite sending the initial C&D notice, Square took no action against and didn't so much as contact any of the sites hosting the patch when it was leaked, nor any of the sites hosting the other (already released) projects mentioned in the first letter (nor for that matter, a very outspoken group hell-bent on completing the project after it had been cancelled).  This strikes me as very odd behavior worthy of mention in the article, but at least one other editor seems to disagree with me, so I'm bringing it up here rather than turning this into an edit war.  Should or shouldn't this be included in the article and why? -Jc1090 (talk) 23:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

A C&D is meant to stop the action; whether there was action or not is unknown and purely speculative at this point, verification is required of such claims. So I don't think re-adding it would be wise. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:40, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
It just seems peculiar to me that a company would send a cease and desist letter to one site, yet stand by and do nothing as a multitude of other sites flat-out ignored their request and hosted the (supposedly) infringing material, not even bothering to send out DMCA takedown notices or even another C&D, let alone file lawsuits as they had threatened.  I do see your point about verifiability though; while I think it would be possible (though possibly original research) to eliminate the possibility that anyone was sued, it is still conceivable that Square did send out takedown notices to other sites, and were simply ignored. -Jc1090 (talk) 12:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

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