# Talk:Chris Columbus (filmmaker)

True or false: "Chris" is a nickname for "Christopher". 66.245.95.239 21:58, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
Recent changes, regarding categorisation, and the desire to refer to Christopher instead of Chris, have NOT been for the better. Firstly, he is not known as an actor, he is a film-maker, a writer/director. Someone needs to change this, quickly. Secondly, as a result of calling him Christopher, users are more likely to be confused. Large numbers of other Wikipedia entries, which formerly directed here (e.g. from films Chris has made) are sending people to Christopher Columbus, the explorer. This is an unnecessary cock-up. Can we get a revert? (14 April 2006)

wouldn't the refeence to infantilism qualify as unsourced potentially libellous material? Pugsworth 04:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree-Removed.

Not a mention of his insistence in portraying children screaming? Gremlins (kinda), Goonies, Home Alone 1 & 2, Harry Potter 1 & 2? What0s his obssesion behind this? Does he think it's funny?

It's not included in the article, because... well, frankly, I can't think of anything less relevant. It's hardly any kind of trademark. Also, remember to sign your post with four tildes. Legendotphoenix 11:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

This section seems like it's copied from a news site.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.150.107 (talk) 08:49, 22 December 2009 (UTC) 

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Why does this article not prefer to this name with its true title? This is the title used by the author and the true title of the film which Chris Columbus should be credited for. 84.9.212.78 (talk) 13:40, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm in agreement on this. Changing it to match the real title. JimKaatFan (talk) 23:25, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
A recent edit changed the title back to the American title with the reasoning that Chris Columbus is American. I believe this was a reference to MOS:ENGVAR, where differences in vocabulary or spelling between American and British English (among other languages) are discussed and the prescribed policy is "a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should use the (formal, not colloquial) English of that nation." However, the title of a film is not the same as the difference between "elevator" and "lift", and so I don't think it applies to films. An example elsewhere would be Tom Hiddleston's article - although The Avengers (2012 film) was called Avengers Assemble in his native England, his article still calls the film by its proper name, The Avengers. JimKaatFan (talk) 14:05, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Article has been stable and fine for years. There are two official titles to this film. This article uses the American title because the subject of the article is an American. And yes, it applies to films unless you have a solid reason why it does not.--JOJ Hutton 14:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
With all due respect, this sounds like the opinion of one person, and I happen to have a different opinion, based on the fact that the policy says nothing about alternate film titles, but only addresses vocabulary and spelling. An alternate film title meant for marketing to an American audience is neither of those things. I also point out that other articles, such as the Tom Hiddleston example above, use the original title of the film he was in even though his home country marketed the film under another title. Geoffrey Rush's article does not use the alternate title of Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales, even though in his home country, it was called Pirates of the Caribbean: Salazar's Revenge. And so on. This article seems to be the exception, and if you disagree, we should probably just ask for community opinion on it in an RfC. JimKaatFan (talk) 16:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Lots to unpack here. I'll adress each one in order.
Wikipedia editors are all full of opinions. No one opinion is worth more or less than any other. That's why we have guidelines. These guidelines are designed to help alleviate edit warring and deal with differences in opinion. But sometimes even the guidelines are interpreted differently. That's fine. No quabble over difference of opinion.
Next, let's dismiss this myth that the Sorcerer's Stone is some sort of alternative title just for marketing to an American audience. It's not. It's an official title because the film is a co-production of both a US and a British production company. Add to the fact that the film's distribution and screen rights are owned by Warner Bros., an American Company, solidifies the fact that Sorcerer's Stone is an official title with just as much weight as it's British title. Another myth is that it's just called that in America. It's also the title of the film in India.
As far as the other articles are concerned, Tom Hiddleston and Geoffrey Rush,  if you wish to change those articles to the British title, you are free to go right ahead and make those changes and argue your case on those talk pages. I'm not concerened with how those articles are presenting their information, nor was I aware that there was an alternative title to those films in Britain. That's a discussion for those articles. We are discussing this article not those. But you might want to take a look at WP:OTHERSTUFF, before trying to use those articles as an excuse for changing this article from it's longstanding stable version.
As far as RFC is concerned, if you want to make an argument for changing how the guideline is interpreted you can go right ahead. Seems like there is nothing wrong with the current version since all of the guidelines are being folowed and WP:RETAIN seems to adhere to what we are talking about. The English Wikipedia is a shared project among many different English speaking countries with various spelling differences and variations on media titles, but we get along because we agree that American articles will use American variations and British articles will use British variations, this includes film titles. If not, why wouldn't it?--JOJ Hutton 21:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm not understanding the "true title"/"real title". The title is even listed as "Socerer's Stone" on BFI (with "Philosopher's Stone" listed as an "alternative title"): [1]. It is also listed that way on Meta Critic and Rotten Tomatoes. I think it makes more sense to stick with common American English name for an American English article, especially when that is widely used in the sources. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Usually when a film is released, Wikipedia articles use the title of the film that the production company uses to market the film. In this case, however, there are multiple production companies from two different English speaking countries, both using different titles. In these cases, the title that is used in the home country of the subject, such as Sorcerer's Stone for Chris Columbus or Philosopher's Stone for many of the actors, is used as the preferable title. This is the best compromise that we could hope for since both titles are official and widely used in sources. In order to get along with other people from differing countries on this shared project, that's what needs to happen in order to reduce edit wars. It's worked so far. No reason to change it now.--JOJ Hutton 22:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I agree with what you are saying, Jojhutton. I think your suggestion makes the most sense because there does not appear to be a single "real" title. I should have been clearer that my comment was directed at the initial two editors who commented. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 22:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
False dichotomy. It is both an alternative and "official" title but make no mistake there is only one canonical title. Reading your argument I get the impression you are ignorant of why there are two titles (spoiler: it is very stupid). They are clearly not equal when all factors are considered. Regardless I don't care that it is being used on this page. Mr Minderbinder (talk) 08:24, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Chris Columbus (filmmaker)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: JimKaatFan (talk · contribs) 21:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

I have removed an unsourced section per WP:V, WP:OR, and WP:BLP. Please note that Wikipedia cannot contain unsourced information, particularly in biographies of living persons. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:23, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

In the River Forest article, it lists him as being a "notable person" who lived there. However, it says nothing about that here. Who is right? 104.58.92.44 (talk) 03:02, 3 June 2025 (UTC)