# Talk:Cabbage looper

This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page.  Peer reviewers: CR.Tracy, S.srivatsa.
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Hi, I'm working on improving this article as part of a class at Washington University. I've basically revamped the page, as numerous references led to dead ends or were not scientific sources. I've added the Taxonomy, Description and Life Cycle, Migration, Temperature, Mating Behaviors, Damage, and Management sections, including all subsections. I reformatted some images. I rewrote the Overview because the sources were not reliable. I also rewrote the Description because, before my edits, it was a series of phrases that were difficult to read. I also removed the Resistance section in order to focus more on behavioral information, but plan on adding information about that back once I've conducted more research. The only things I didn't change were the external links, Taxo box, and the phrase at the top saying that the cabbage looper is not to be confused with the cabbage moth. Please let me know what could be improved! Thanks Ericapryu (talk) 20:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi! This page looks really good so far! I think there is a lot of important information, and it covers a large range of topics. I made several edits to the page. I first reorganized the introduction and fixed some grammar errors to help it flow better. I added hyperlinks throughout the article for words that are less commonly used/known and edited any grammar mistakes that I noticed throughout the article. I also added sub-headings to the Description and life cycle section to make it easier to read and better organized. The article looks really great; good job! Mlopez2121 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 14:40, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello! This was a great and informative page! I did find a few places that could be fixed so the writing was clearer. After reading the whole page, I thought it would be beneficial to add a little more detail to the overview, specifically in regard to temperature dependency and “mating behaviors” since that section is long. In the overview, the scientific name was not completely italicized and there was an incorrect use of semicolons. Throughout the page there were a few instances where vague language was used such as "that being said" and "some may claim," so I removed those phrases. Thanks!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arajan1 (talk • contribs) 06:20, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
S.srivatsa here. This is a great article! I only had a couple suggestions. I added a couple internal links to "overwintering" and "monarch butterfly." I also changed one grammatical error with the use of semicolons. Finally, I have two suggestions for content improvement. It could be beneficial to provide a section on predation and parasites of this moth. Species of insects that predate the sentinel eggs of the cabbage looper include lady beetles, spiders, and pirate bugs. I added in this new predators section to the end of Management section with this information, and cited it with a new source (source number 25). Since there is such a high level of emphasis on the cabbage looper as a pest, it could be beneficial to talk about using natural predators as a way to decrease their effect on cabbage plants. Lastly, in the migration section, there is a lot of information about climate and areas that the cabbage looper is found. It could be beneficial to have a habitat and geographic range section to briefly outline where the organism is found. It appears that it is found in North America, and migrates from Mexico to Canada after winter. It could be nice to have a small block of text listing the major areas the cabbage looper can be found.  —Preceding undated comment added 18:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello all! I'm back and I've added more sections. I've added to some of my previous sections and reorganized them as well. I broke up the Mating Behaviors section because the Pheromones section was too big to be a subheader section, and it was weird to have the other Mating Behaviors grouped. Let me know what you think and if this would better organized in a different manner! I noticed that someone added back the "Resistance to Bt proteins" section that I had deleted the first time, and I put that under the Enemies sections and added complete citations. I'm probably going to add more to that section myself once I get around to it because I found more information about Bt and didn't have time to include it. Thanks!Ericapryu (talk) 14:29, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi there! Overall, very strong article. I made a few changes for Behavioral Ecology, but I think for the most part this article was very impressive. I linked other wikipedia articles for concepts that may be confusing, changed some sentence structure to make the writing more scientific, and fixed a few typos. Mainly, I made multiple matings a subheading of copulation, and actually changed the copulation heading to mating, which I believe is more standard. I also moved the damage and management sections, and made them subsections under an Interaction with humans umbrella section. I think this makes a little more sense, so hopefully it will help with organization.Alexandra.payne (talk) 22:02, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
The article was very well-written and had a lot of different and detailed information. The page was also cited well! I only have two suggestions. First, in the host plant section, it is mentioned that the number of caterpillars depend on plant foliage, maturity, and height. I think it would be a more complete idea, to mention the exact relationship. For example, as height of the plant increases, the number of caterpillars increase. Second, I think it might be worthwhile to make sure the sections follow the same order as on other pages. For example, according to other pages the order of categories should be taxonomy, host plant, oviposition, life cycle, migration, temperature, enemies, mating, pheromones, and interactions with humans. I made a few minor changes to the page. In the temperature section the last sentence says that temperature does not affect receptor neurons. I rephrased the sentence so that it was clear the receptor neuron referred to pheromones. In the pheromone detection sentence, I made the sentence discussing the inhibitory compound clearer. I specified that the blend referred to female pheromones and that the scientific equipment could not pick up the small quantity of the compound. I made a few grammatical changes in the mating, oviposition, and parasitism sections. I added a link to the word “frass” in the oviposition section. In the Bt section I changed the scientific name to cabbage looper, as the common name was used throughout the article. If you do not agree with these changes or suggestions, I am more than willing to talk about it with you! CR.Tracy (talk) 16:21, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello there! I think your article is very impressive and it is evident that you have put a lot of work into it. I thought you did a good job of explaining many complicated things. I made a few edits to add clarity and precision to your language and to remove phrases like "studies show" in favor of more active language. Other than that I thought you did a great job. I really enjoyed your description of the migration of the moth and how you identified exactly why it migrates. Srosefuqua (talk) 21:39, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi, awesome article! I learned so much about this species. All the sections are very thoroughly researched and detailed. The only things I would add are pictures of the host plants. I liked the pictures of the looper at different life stages so it would be nice to include some pictures of the host plants or even the caterpillars on the host plants. I also am curious about the cabbage moth. It would be interesting to add a section about how the two species differ since there is a little piece of text at the beginning of the article that says "Not to be confused with the cabbage moth." What makes the two species different? Why is one called a looper and one a moth? Overall really great job! 
Mullenm05 (talk) 07:55, 9 December 2017 (UTC)mullenm05

This article says in the intro where on Earth the species is found (lives) but it does not do that in the article text below the intro. This is not really a problem for the reader, but it is required in a good article that every statement in the intro also is present in the main part of the article. A possible solution to this is to copy the range information in the intro to the paragraph named Migration and rename that paragraph accordingly. --Ettrig (talk) 06:07, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I made that change. Still, I am missing any indication about the north-south dimension in Eurasia. Eurasia is a very big area. Is all of it covered?--Ettrig (talk) 06:11, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Cabbage looper/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 08:45, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Before I spend time on this, are you still around on this one? Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:45, 21 April 2018 (UTC)