# Talk:John Marley (mining engineer)

Not sure I'm ready to perform a full GA review on this, hence I'm leaving this comment here instead. But: this article says "In 1846 he became resident viewer at Woodifield Colliery, the start of his career at Bolckow & Vaughan". The  Bolckow Vaughan article says "founded in 1864, based on the partnership since 1840 of its two founders, Henry Bolckow and John Vaughan". So: which of these three dates is the right one? In general, the Marley article could use a brief overview of what a colliery is (since some readers may not be familiar with the term and our link on the term goes to an unhelpful page about local geology) and how the industry was organized at that time. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

David, thanks. I've added a gloss for colliery (coal mine). BV became a publicly listed company in 1864; Mr B and Mr V had worked together relatively informally since 1840, as a partnership not a public company. 1846 was the personal start date for Marley, so there's no contradiction to explain. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:19, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

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Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 21:15, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi there, I'll review this. FunkMonk (talk) 21:15, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
Many thanks for taking this on. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:54, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Why is the photo in the infobox fair use? Since it was published before 1923, you can upload it freely on English Wikipedia at least.
I've put PD-1923 on it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:10, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Still seems to have a fair use description template, though, should be repaced with a regular one. FunkMonk (talk) 10:12, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Done.
"was a geologist and mining engineer from Darlington" Mention country. Also in Life and career.
Done.
I think the caption of the infobox image is a bit excessive, it is almost a summary of the article. If nothing can be said about the photo itself, date, place, etc.
Done.
"of Middlesbrough" Could be linked.
Done.
Vaughan should be presented and linked outside the intro too.
Done.
"Another son J.W. Marley" Why is he not mentioned in the infobox?
Done.
"His nephew, Thomas William Marley was chairman of the North Brancepeth Coal company." Needs source.
Added.
You could link Pleuroceras (ammonite).
Done.
"Cleveland Ironstone Formation" should be linked at first mention.
Done.
Two Ammonite zones" Most readers won't know what this means, you could mention index fossils.
Glossed.
"The Northern Echo" Present. What is it?
Glossed, italics.
You could link Lias Group at Lias.
Linked.
I think the short Legend section could be merged into History and geology (very short paragraphs should not have their own sections), but no big deal.
But perhaps it is helpful to call out the difference between "Legend" and "Commercial reality", as the legend is by far the more famous.
"Bolckow Vaughan had already" Which is who?
Introduced and linked.
"described his discovery like this:" Seems a bit informal. "As follows"?
Done.
"Marley was not exaggerating." Seems a bit too hyperbolic for an encyclopaedia.
Fixed.
Can't really find more to add, so will pass it now. Nice! FunkMonk (talk) 11:14, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the review! Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:18, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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