# Talk:Dunning–Kruger effect

"To establish the Dunning-Kruger effect is an artifact of research design, not human thinking, my colleagues and I showed it can be produced using randomly generated data." https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-dunning-kruger-effect-isnt-what-you-think-it-is/
it can. Should be pointed out that there is no such effect.
DK is an artifact of study design and can be reproduced applying the same analisis to random noise.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-dunning-kruger-effect-isnt-what-you-think-it-is/ 216.99.19.19 (talk) 17:59, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

That is not a reliable source. Constant314 (talk) 20:46, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
This article presents the statistical explanation combined with the better-than-average effect. It is one among several competing explanations and is already discussed in our article in the subsection "Statistical and better-than-average effect". Phlsph7 (talk) 09:23, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
Did you do the obvious or something different?  Dagelf (talk) 16:18, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Does anyone know if the Curve you can see if you use Google Images is something that is related to this effect?
You can find it in Commons:

or is it just something commonly attributed to Dunning–Kruger, but in fact is something totally unrelated. jcubic (talk) 21:10, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Often attributed to DK but in fact completely unrelated.  There is a good discussion of that image in the archives. Constant314 (talk) 21:48, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
@Constant314 What archives? Can you provide a link? jcubic (talk) 00:53, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
They are in that yellow box on the right side of the page opposite of the table of contents.  Maybe @Phlsph7: can help you find the discussion. Constant314 (talk) 01:07, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
Found it: there was a lengthy discussion about this and similar misleading diagrams three years ago, see Talk:Dunning–Kruger_effect/Archive_5#Illustration. Phlsph7 (talk) 09:36, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1Jm4J1tjoz73ttUkRQjjrnsQbjgva3dS-#scrollTo=0duv-vQ39mMD Dagelf (talk) 16:17, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
No point in posting this twice.  Keep the discussion on Disproven thread. Constant314 (talk) 16:23, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Relation between average self-perceived performance and average actual performance on a college exam.

 
Back when I could get 100% on most math tests, I found that predicting my score posed few challenges. Depending on the scale of assessment used, high performers actually have less to predict for purely structural reasons. Does this article address this factor at any level? It ought to, if you ask me. — MaxEnt 21:57, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

The article only contains material derived from reliable sources. Constant314 (talk) 00:06, 12 September 2025 (UTC)