# Talk:Gary Owen (snooker player)

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Nominator: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 01:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Canary757 (talk · contribs) 09:04, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi, review to come.
Canary757 (talk) 09:04, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi,
I think Great Yarmouth should be named in full
round-robin doesn't need a capital, it's linked in the body, but not the lead
would recommend linking Calcutta, Gold Coast, Birmingham, Brisbane etc
century break can be linked
All done ("century break" doesn't appear; I linked "break"). BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Good early impressions on first reading
More to come. Canary757 (talk) 09:16, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
Okay,
His highest break was 116 before starting his military National Service. Do we know what year his service started?
No, that source doesn't have it and I couldn't find it elsewhere. The Wikipedia article says about National Service that "healthy males 17 to 21 years old were required to serve in the armed forces for 18 months" and "They could be recalled to their units for up to 20 days for no more than three occasions during these four years." so it's not possible to just do a calculation. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
While working as a labourer, he reached the final of the English Amateur Championship in 1950 I assume this is after he left the army? Worth including, he left the army and worked as a labourer etc?
I think it would have to be an assumption without an explicit source. Cliff Wilson was granted special leave from National Service to participate in the 1952 under-19 Championship, so playing in championships was possible. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
He became world amateur champion for a second time in 1966, beating John Spencer, who was the runner-up, in the decisive match. Could the runn-up be removed as a losing finalist is normally in that position?
Yes indeed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
"refreshing new look to the game, with bold attacking play, wonderful potting, and a sprinkling of good-sized breaks". Other quotes end ." This feels like an a sentence ending quote so I think it should be ."
The original, now linked, has "...sprinkling of good-sized breaks to warm the hearts of the packed house." BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Spencer took the first frame on the final day to claim victory by achieving a winning margin of 37–24 with a winning score of might read better?
Amended to "by achieving a winning score at 37–24" but happy to tweak that. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Owen compiled a 100 break, the highest of the match, in the 66th frame during the dead frames - I'd link dead frame to Glossary of cue sports terms and 100 break to Century break
Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
He withdrew from the 1972 championship Personally would just put 1972 World Championship for clarity
Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
He was runner-up to Charlton in the 1972 and 1973 Australian Professional Championships. He won against Simpson in his first match at the 1973 tournament but then lost 6–16 Need to expand (1973) link as without clicking it (force link) the reader may think it's referring to the 1973 Aussie competition introduced in the preceding sentence.
Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
In 1975 he progressed through two rounds but was beaten 9–19 by Dennis Taylor in the quarter-finals. Same here, recommend clarifying 1975 refers to the world champs, may need a comma also
Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Spencer was 15–9 ahead after the second day of the final, and maintained a six frame lead by the end of day three, at 21–15. Compound adjective so six-frame lead I think.
Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
I'll review the sources/fact check during the week.
Let me know if you agree/disagree with any of the observations.
Kind regards
Canary757 (talk) 12:05, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
Many thanks, Canary757. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for making some edits. I've made a few minor changes. I have carried out a spot check of references.
He was a world championship semi-finalist in 1970, beating Rex Williams 31–11 before being eliminated by Pulman 13–36. Snooker Scene (ref 29) says he lost to Pulman 12-37?
I changed to 13-37, and swapped a source. I think 36 was my typo. See "Pulman v Owen score" at Talk:1970_World_Snooker_Championship. 11:43, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
I see MBE being removed from the lead of many articles. I personally disagree with this but you may wish to consider removing this per MOS:POSTNOM.
Removed per MOS:POSTNOM. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:43, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, Canary757 (talk) 06:04, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
I've added an image. Please check this too. Thanks. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:23, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi, one more thing. In the non-ranking finals chart, for 1969 it says Owen lost to Spencer 27-46, but the reference says "Final: Spencer beat Owen 37-24". 37-24 is used as the scoreline in the prose.
Otherwise
Article is well written, broad and focused
Article is stable, no copyvio issues and no original research
Well referenced with clear structure
MOS is fine
Regarding images. The image is not ideal but I accept your reasoning. I see a similar image was accepted in a review for Mark Wildman last week. That image has been shrunk by a bot but this image is already quite a bit smaller than the original one put on the Wildman page.
Thanks, Canary757 (talk) 17:14, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
I've added to the prose about the 1969 final, and put a footnote in the table of results. At least the image is of Owen; my Google search came for him up with a picture of Rex Williams as the most prominent. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:12, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying the 1969 score. More than happy to promote to GA per reasoning above. Congrats. Canary757 (talk) 12:01, 10 September 2025 (UTC)