# Talk:If I Thought You'd Ever Change Your Mind

It's NOT original from Cilla Black. The Original is from Edwards Hand. When you read the lyrics ('I will bring you flowers...') you'll see it's a 'man's-song'.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:5F:CD12:94D5:5AF:8B88:EC7:8A31 (talk) 16:18, 30 April 2017 (UTC) 

This review is transcluded from Talk:If I Thought You'd Ever Change Your Mind/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: VirreFriberg (talk · contribs) 21:29, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 09:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar): 

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section): 

b. (citations to reliable sources): 

c. (OR): 

d. (copyvio and plagiarism): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects): 

b. (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): 

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/fail: 

(Criteria marked  are unassessed)
This will be review fully today! --K. Peake 09:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


### Infobox and lead
Infobox looks good!
""(I Will Bring You) Flowers in the Morning" in 1969." → ""(I Will Bring You) Flowers in the Morning" for their album The Lilac Years (1969)." as this context is important and avoids potential repetition of the single release as that is the only other release of the song in 1969
"and decided to that" → "and decided that"
Mention Martin as a writer of the arrangement too per the body
Add what the music press praised about the song specifically
"a 17-year old hiatus." → wouldn't 17-year long work better than old?
"It one of" → "It is one of"


### Background and recording
"an inspiration that eventually gave him inspiration" → This reads too repetitively; change the second part to something like "eventually led him to..."
"earliest prolific session" → "earliest prolific sessions"
Quote box looks good!
"Edwards signed the band" → "Edwards then signed the band" while starting a new sentence here since the current one is too much of a run-on
"the band and producer" → "Tages and producer"
"Although the original intention was for the band to record original material penned by the band's bassist" → "Although the intention was for Tages to record original material penned by their bassist" to avoid overusage of "the band" in this sentence, also if something was intended then it was clearly the original plan
"recorded for almost 3 years." → "recorded for almost three years." per MOS:NUM
"of the bands guitarists" → "of Tages' guitarists"


### Release and reception
Img looks good!
The retitled information is not sourced, unless page 17 indicates this is in the Wrigholm piece rather than the online link for it?
"the B-side of Blond's debut" → "as well as the B-side of Blond's debut"
"before finally being issued as" → "The song was finally issued as" starting a new sentence to avoid a run-on, especially since the singles should be in one sentence together
Are you sure you shouldn't write the United Kingdom instead of Britain?
"were however praised as" → "was however praised as"
Last para looks good!


### Cilla Black version
Replace hlist with bullet points per Template:Infobox song


#### Background and recording
"Anders Henriksson, who produced" → "Henriksson, who produced"
Quote box and second para look good!


#### Release and reception
"A release in the US" → "A release in the United States"
"In the United Kingdom, the single" → "In the UK, the single" per this being past the first mention; if the previous instance in the section turns out to be a later mention of the United Kingdom too, please alter to the UK accordingly
"It dropped out of the chart" → "The song dropped out of the chart"
"as her previous two" → "as Black's previous two"
"it only charted" → "the song only charted"
Remove overly obvious wikilink on Ireland
Remove wikilink on Oceania
"entered the New Zealand top-ten," → "entered the New Zealand top-10," per MOS:NUM
Add a reference at the end of this sentence to back up the Australia position
The source only says Black's chart success fell down in 1969, not specifically due to the song itself
"she had a final" → "She had a final" as this is a new sentence
"only she [Cilla Black] could" → "only she [Black] could" since you do not need to add her full name when it has already been introduced
"All though Bell thought" → "Although Bell thought"
Remove speech mark after perfection when that quote was already ended earlier
"but that it offers a" → "while offering a"
Last para looks good!


#### Charts
Pipe New Musical Express to NME


### Agnetha Fältskog version
9 April 2004 is sourced as the release date, not 12 April
The recording is not sourced as ending in January 2004
WP:OVERLINK of Agnetha Fältskog under producers


#### Background and recording
The "fear of flying" and "fun obstacle" quotes are not sourced
The premiere being in West End theatre is not sourced
"She commenced in" → "she commenced in"
Remove overly obvious link on Stockholm, Sweden
"envisioned her her new recordings" → "envisioned her new recordings"
The concept album part is not sourced here, also mention that the songs were from the 1950s and 1960s per the source
"on the cover by Cilla Black." → "on the cover by Black."
Last para looks good!


#### Release and reception
The announcement sentence is not sourced
"reached the top-twenty" → "reached the top-20" per MOS:NUM
The Scottish position should use a ref name from the chart table to cite since this is just a duplicate of the same link
"and states that the Strömkvist's drum performance" → "and the Strömkvist's drum performance"
The routine quote does not appear in the source


#### Charts
See MOS:TABLECAPTION


### References
#### Notes
Since the references following these are the same ones at the end of their sentences, I would suggest to remove the refs from here


#### Citations
Copyvio score looks very strong at 15.3%; the only high matches are things like quoted song titles
Remove the author as staff are not valid from refs 15 and 46
Ditto for refs 16 and 17 also wikilink National Library of Sweden to be consistent with the style you have used here
Cite AllMusic as publisher with the wikilink on refs 18, 31 and 37
Cite IRMA as publisher instead on ref 29
Remove www.flavourofnz.co.nz from ref 30
Ref 34 displays by default without any paid subscription, so please remove that tag
Cite BBC News as publisher instead on refs 38 and 44, removing staff author from 38
Cite Official Charts Company as publisher instead on refs 50 and 52
Cite Tracklisten as publisher instead on ref 51


#### Sources
Is it supposed to be Now & then or Now & Then?


### Final comments and verdict
 On hold until all of the issues are fixed; glad to tick one off from the GAN backlog! --K. Peake 12:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi @Kyle Peake! Apologies for this 4 day silence from me! I did re-wrote, removed and added all suggestions you suggested!
Happy new 2025! VirreFriberg (talk) 14:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 Pass now, I edited literally one really minor thing and this is ready to go for sure! --K. Peake 18:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC)