# Talk:Margaret Thatcher

How is this "undue"? Section 28 has a whole Wikipedia article dedicated to it that passed notability checks and there is plenty of reliable third-party sources covering it, of which I can easily add more to this. It was a significant policy of Thatcher's that's received plenty of reliable source coverage and is absolutely notable. To omit it from this page is beyond ridiculous. Helper201 (talk) 16:25, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Weight is judged from its prominence in the body of secondary sources about the life of the subject of the article. That had an OR introduction from primary sources. Start a section here to discuss how much coverage it deserves and where to put it. -- DeFacto (talk). 16:34, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
And to totally wipe out such well cited and key legislation made no sense, nor was it conducive to cooperative Wikipedia editing. It was clearly not a reasonable act to totally wipe out all the information based on what you determined to be a primary source of one line of information, of which you also removed plenty of other legitimate content and just because of your disagreement the placement of the added information. You could have taken multiple other paths rather than just deleting it all. I have added plenty more sources including secondary sources now. If you can provide good reason why it should not be placed under "Domestic affairs" then by all means voice them here but this is certainly the most relevant place for such information. We don't need to open another new talk page section for that. Helper201 (talk) 17:20, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Neveselbert please explain why you think this is "Completely undue". Helper201 (talk) 18:28, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi again Helper201. I chanced on this discussion after mentioning you on the Adolf Hitler talk page. Specifically, I questioned your addition of five sources that supposedly confirm the NAZI party was far right. Without repeating that discussion, the point was your five sources were completely inadequate and not usable. You seem not to grasp how to use sources properly, including the difference between primary and secondary sources and use of proper weighting of detail. Adding five sources to a sentence as you have done here does not make it five times better referenced, it just adds unnecessary clutter. One or two good RSSs is enough. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 01:08, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Roger 8 Roger, I'm not sure why you're bringing up a dicussion to critique me in which your revert was roundly objected by the others editors involved. Helper201 (talk) 15:57, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Section 28 was not a personal initiative of Thatcher's, but a backbench amendment she allowed through as Prime Minister. She never voted on it and made only brief, generic public comments of government support. Major biographies, like Moore's, treat it as tangential to her career. Per WP:DUE, it does not warrant inclusion in her main biographical article. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 04:37, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Are there sources regarding who and when started calling PM Thatcher "Iron Lady"?  White Spider Shadow (talk) 04:20, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

This is in the article under the heading 'Iron Lady':
In 1976, Thatcher gave her "Britain Awake" foreign policy speech which lambasted the Soviet Union, saying it was "bent on world dominance". The Soviet Army journal Red Star reported her stance in a piece headlined "Iron Lady Raises Fears", alluding to her remarks on the Iron Curtain. The Sunday Times covered the Red Star article the next day, and Thatcher embraced the epithet a week later; in a speech to Finchley Conservatives she likened it to the Duke of Wellington's nickname "Iron Duke". The "Iron" metaphor followed her throughout the rest of her career, and would become a generic sobriquet for other strong-willed female politicians. LastDodo (talk) 08:06, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Thank you.  White Spider Shadow (talk) 22:50, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

Can a new section be added, to include all the affairs.  As more information comes out, so the 5-6 can be added and expanded through time. Linked back to the reason behind it, Thatcher’s reasoning etc. Unfortunately the official biography and gate keeper Charles Moore is not reliable. ~2025-32450-90 (talk) 13:48, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

She starred in the film The Fall (2013) by Ben Phillips ~2025-32855-94 (talk) 18:55, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NotJamestack (talk) 19:53, 11 November 2025 (UTC)