# Talk:Mario Bros.

It seems to me that the references to page 56 of Sheff, David (1999). Game Over Press Start to Continue. Cyberactive Media Group are wrong. This page does not mention the quote "labyrinthine subterranean network of sewage pipes". As far as I could find out, these three references should probably all go to the book Chris Kohler: Power-Up: How Japanese Video Games Gave the World an Extra Life, pages 50–51.

The article mentioned that dual game play was added as an after-thought, and that's interesting, but I think it should also be mentioned just how incredible the two player mode was (is). Almost all two player games -even today- force game play of either helping each other or fighting each other.  In Mario Bros. this was left entirely up to the players themselves: you could work together, but it was oh-so tempting to hit the POW! block a millisecond before the other player wanted to kill the upside-down turtle, thus causing him to lose a life.  Or to revive the high-speed crab by hitting it again from below, launching it straight into the other player. Or to jump up just when the other player was coming down, shooting him back up potentially into a heap of trouble. That was nothing short of brilliant, and I think it needs to be mentioned.

I typed "Freezie" in the search bar and was unceremoniously brought to this page which seems to have little to do with freezies of any variety (for the record, I was hoping to learn about the frozen treat that comes in a tube). I don't see why it should redirect here. Am I missing something? Dindon (talk) 17:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)Dindon

Freezie is a Mario enemy that had an article on Wikipedia, and was redirected to this article when it was deemed non-notable. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
That would be a freezepop, not a "freezie". 71.193.11.72 (talk) 10:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
As noted in their article, what you call "freezepops", are known as "freezies" in Canada. I actually wasn't aware of this until I read the article, thinking that it was a universal thing. In any case, I think users would be better served if "freezie" redirected to the page for Pop (frozen snack), rather than this one, and am going to make the edit. If that's not appropriate, and is reverted, I think that at the very least there should be a disambiguation link at the top of this article. Most Canadians (including me) know "freezies" by no other name, and after being redirected here, would probably assume that they had no article in Wikipedia.
I'm not going to put a redirect link to this article in Pop (frozen snack), since I don't think someone looking for information about the Mario enemy will be well served by the single perfunctory sentence it merits in this article. If someone disagrees they can add it. Dindon (talk) 02:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Just as the Pac-Man wiki page explains what the maximum level is and what happens after it is completed (LV256, the split-screen level), this page should explain how high Mario Bros can go and what happens when the highest stage is completed. I remember seeing online somewhere that it can go up to Phase 255 or 256, though the Phase # is listed as Phase 99 for every phase over 99 too (so 100, 101, 102, etc are all listed as Phase 99). The page should also state if there are any differences between version (i.e. arcade, NES, etc) in the game's final stage. --Thirdmoon 19:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I have a version of Mario Bros., known only as "Mario Bros. Classic", which shows a short cut scene before each group of phases.
Before Phase 1, it there is a cut scene of Mario jumping to knock a shellcreeper over, and then jumping up and kicking it.  During this cut scene, text appears: Shellcreeper ... 1 hit flips it over!! ... Jumpup!! [sic] ... Kick off when upside down!!
Phase 3 is a normal stage with Shellcreepers.
Phase 4 is a coin stage.
Before Phase 5, a cutscene depicts Mario defeating a Sidestepper.  Text appears: Sidestepper ... "1st hit" makes it mad!! ... "2nd hit" flips it over!!" ... Jumpup!! [sic] ... Kick off when upside down!!
Phase 6 is a stage with Shellcreepers and Sidesteppers.
Before Phase 7, a cutscene introduces the Fighter Flies, with Mario defeating one.  Text appears: Fighter Fly ... Only when touching floor!! ... 1 hit flips it over!! ... Jumpup [sic] ... Kick off when upside down!!
Phase 7 has Fighter Flies.
Phase 8 has Fighter Flies and Sidesteppers.
Phase 9 is an ice-covered coin stage.
Before Phase 10, a cutscene depicts 2 Slipice coming out of pipes. Mario jumps up and defeats one, then the other one freezes a platform.
Phase 10 has Shellcreepers, Fighter Flies, and Slipice.
Does anyone know what version of the game this would be? It is a NES game, and the cutscenes make me doubt it is a hack. --71.232.113.67 15:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Read about it here - it's real, but it was only released in Germany, France, and Netherlands. A shame, too - it's far better than the initial version they released. --Quietust 02:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Didn't they rerelease it as part of Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3? 99.230.152.143 (talk) 00:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
As a matter of fact, all Super Mario Advance games. - Up and over for a six! (talk) 02:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Not the same, as it doesn't have the cutscenes there. --DocumentN (talk) 18:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I am almost certain that as a child, I played this on a DOS based PC. - MSTCrow 06:11, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, there was - a VGA version released in 1990 by Save Sharpless.
i played it as well so i can confirm its existance.84.212.73.96 (talk) 14:39, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/game/146  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.117.164.28 (talk) 15:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 

http://www.ardiri.com/index.php?redir=palm&cat=maryobros
This version was released briefly for 9 months in 2001 as an unlicensed clone.  Nintendo forced this company to remove it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.117.164.28 (talk) 17:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC) 

Someone vandalized the Gameplay part of this, so I edited it back to the way it was.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.117.229.206 (talk) 00:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 
That's good...Oh, and don't worry,everyone is cool with that kind of thing. :) 99.230.152.143 (talk) 00:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

If you listen to the title theme, and compare it to the chorus of "Downtown" by Petula Clark, you'll find them to be very similar. --66.134.7.124 (talk) 23:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

No doubt, which raises this question: wouldn't songwriter Tony Hatch and/or the singer, Petula Clark, have sued Nintendo and the Mario Bros. jingle writer Yukio Kaneoka sometime ago if that were the case? It should be known that the piece of music you mention applies only to the home versions of the game; neither the arcade version nor the Atari 8-bit computer (excepting the later XEGS version which did use a version of the song you mention) and 5200 versions had a title theme. WikiPro1981X (talk) 00:38, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Replacementdocs doesn't own the copyright, nor has licensed Nintendo to publish it, therefore it is copyright infringement. Linking to them is not an option, since we cannot link to a site we know is breaking copyright. It would be similar to link to a torrent file of a movie so that others can get to see the movie to know where it is being used as reference. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 02:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

This does not meet with GA-status. There is not external links, the lead should be a summary of the whole article, the article is a way too short, there should be no references in the lead, etc. – J U M P G U R U ■ask㋐㋜㋗■ 22:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

External links are all of a sudden important to the quality of an article? Are you not able to add External links?
Development info need not be mentioned in the lead unless it is a key element of it to the point that not mentioning them is detrimental.
There is no size requirement for an article to become GA-class.
There is no precedence to say that the lead should lack references. People should be able to immediately be able to ascertain whether something is true.
Almost every single complaint you've made is either trivial or untrue. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Size and links are not required for a GA article. I wasn't awake when I wrote that. :-P Some sources are not reliable on this page, and no sources should be in the lead. The sources should be in the body of the article, the lead is a quick summary of the whole article in order of section. – J U M P G U R U ■ask㋐㋜㋗■ 22:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
From what I see of the  GA discussion, Sabre (who put up the GA status based on the rewriting he did) clearly stated "I'd strongly recommend putting this through a peer review though", to which New Age Retro Hippie declined.  If there's objections popping up already, then obviously a peer review should (and should have) been done. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 22:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Several other featured and good articles have sources in the lead.
You can't just say "the lead doesn't give a proper summary of the whole article" and "there are some unreliable sources". You must specify how the problem should be fixed, not require people to just take a stab in the dark and hope they fix the problem you present.
At no point did I decline a peer review - I said I wasn't going to take it any further. The fact of the matter is that most of the problems brought up are trivial or untrue. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:38, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Why isn't the Atari 2600 port of Mario Bros. mentioned in the article?  
The Atari version was the earliest port of the game in North America.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.252.12.70 (talk) 22:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC) 

Because I suppose it was felt that it was more necessary to mention the NES and Arcade versions. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Nintendo Fanboyism! Lol!  The 2600 port deserves mention in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.252.12.70 (talk) 23:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 

Find a good source for the material and add it yourself.  This is Wikipedia after all. Lumaga (talk) 23:49, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, it's not exactly Nintendo fanboyism to focus on the primary versions of the game. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 00:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Just cite MobyGames and GameFAQs. Sheesh! Mario Bros. is like all every old consoles sans Master System, and that's FACT. Again, go to MobyGames or GameFAQs. Plus, I own the friggin' cart ten times over on 2600, 7800, Coleco, Intellivision, Apple II, C-64, and NES. It's piss poor quality to exclude all information of a topic in an article about said topic. Apple8800 (talk) 19:29, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I have removed it. If anybody finds a working link, feel free to replace the Citation Needed tag I have placed with that. 120.59.40.208 (talk) 12:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Seriously? This is the official article about "Super Mario Bros" and all we get is a screenshot of Mario for the VIRTUAL BOY? Why not Hotel Mario, while we´re at it!?
I am aware of copyright issues, but I simply cannot believe that there is no way to get a proper Mario screenshot into this article, it is probably the most-shot game on the internet.
People who don´t know about the series (I heard from reliable sources that there exist a few) could assume that this is a, if not the main game. 
It´s like having a gourmet recipe with turds as reference pictures. Get rid of that, please.
--77.10.106.190 (talk) 18:05, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

There is a screenshot of the original Mario Bros. game, on arcade. Salvidrim! 18:10, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Sure, the arcade version is a genuine Mario game at least, but we both know which game anyone expects to be in a Super Mario article, don´t we? --77.10.106.190 (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Super Mario Bros. is is not a direct sequel of Mario Bros., nor does it have similar gameplay, unlike Mario Clash.  Do notice the section that features the screenshot that seems to offend you so much does not mention Super Mario Bros., and it is intended.  This is not "a Super Mario article", as you say -- this game is not part of the Super Mario (series). Salvidrim! 22:11, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

There can't be a GBA release listed for Mario Bros. because it wasn't a GBA title. It was only included as a minigame in the Super Mario Advance series. A minigame is not a game. Mario Bros. in SMA is no more a GBA game than any of the minigames in Mario Party is a Nintendo 64 game. A small note could be included in the platforms list that said it was only part of SMA, but it's not valid to say Mario Bros. is a GBA title. ArtistScientist (talk) 12:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Quotes:
"It is also remade on copies of games in the Game Boy Advance's Super Mario Advance games as well as Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, and it was included as a mini-game in Super Mario Bros. 3. The Gameboy Advance version was included in the 10 free games given out by Nintendo in the 3DS ambassador program due to its inclusion on the cart for the GBA port of Yoshi's Island which was one of the games on the list."
"[The NES] version was released in the second series of NES e-Cards as well, and was also released in the Famicom Mini series, the Japanese variant of the Classic NES Series of games."
I think these are fine. Salvidrim! 14:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I was just wondering what is the source for the June 1, 1983 release date that is claimed in this article.  At around 30 seconds in this Nintendo Direct video, Satoru Iwata says the game was first released on July 14, 1983.  Is the release date wrong in the article?  If so, I think it should be changed to July 14, 1983. The1337gamer (talk) 20:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
ok so you have good query. but so then what is best source on it? These are the ones to think of  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.229.136.224 (talk) 02:27, 12 September 2013 (UTC) 

need audio for Japanese way to say name. this is the way to help people  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.229.136.224 (talk) 02:25, 12 September 2013 (UTC) 

The article states that icicles "were not included in the NES version." In fact, while they were not in the NTSC (NA) NES version, they were in the PAL (EU) NES version released in 1986. According to Mario Wiki, they were also in the Japanese version of the game, released in 1983. If anyone can find a suitable citation, the article should be changed. Eebster the Great (talk) 17:18, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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### Mario Bros.
The Fighterfly enemy character seems to be modelled after the Drain Fly, which makes sense with the setting, but I can not find a confirming reference yet. I will keep looking and update.
-- Wowaconia (talk) 20:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Is an unofficial Chinese or Taiwanese nickname really relevant enough to include in the first line of the English language article? Quiltyexp (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

What the top says we need to add info about the special Disk Writer kiosk exclusive version of Mario Bros. which is Kaettekita Mario Bros. NakhlaMan (talk) 14:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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