# Talk:Flag of Washington

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Flag of Washington/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: CycloneIsaac (talk · contribs) 05:32, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Reviewing later.—CycloneIsaac (Talk) 05:32, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

I feel like the lead is a tad bit short compared to the rest of the article. Maybe add a bit more to it?
Gonna AGF for the references.—CycloneIsaac (Talk) 04:43, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Expanded the lead. Will that be enough? SounderBruce 05:50, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

We have commons:Category:Flags of Washington (state). Should there be a subcategory specifically for the flag of Washington, and not just one for flags of Washington? Would be nice to separate the official state flag from other flags associated with the state. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:04, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

I removed the reference to the NAVA survey, which has been added back twice. The problem with the NAVA survey is that it is neither a reliable primary nor secondary source. The survey is not a reliable primary source for the reasons I have explained: it was an unsampled, unverified poll. Period. NAVA's own material shows this. Opinion polls must have a representative sample to be in the universe of reliable evidence of public opinion. Any secondary material NAVA published that derives from the unverified primary material is unreliable as well. The reference violates Wikipedia's own policies.Georgepreble (talk) 02:05, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@Georgepreble: Please bring this up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology instead of debating on each individual flag's talk page. The NAVA survey has been referenced by enough reputable secondary source, especially in the context of Washington's flag, that it warrants a mention on the page. SounderBruce 05:54, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Aside from the proposed design submitted by Terrence A. Geiger to the Santa Barbara Museum of Art in 1976, another flag designed by Bradley James Lockhart is also being proposed to replace the current flag. I've seen some real life images of that proposed flag, including an image shown here, which is a proof that it existed. Anonymy365248 (talk) 15:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Proposals that do not have widespread coverage in reliable secondary sources will not be included in this article. As far as I can tell, Lockhart's flag has not been covered by a major newspaper, news agency, or academic analysis. SounderBruce 16:00, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
So it's not enough for a flag to be recognized publicly, if it's just being shown on the internet, even if it's real? Anonymy365248 (talk) 16:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, so the minimum requirement is coverage that is reliable, in-depth, and relevant. If we included every self-published proposal for a new state flag, this article would have too many examples to be useful. Only those that have been covered by secondary sources warrant a mention. SounderBruce 23:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)