# Talk:Malin Akerman

If and when an actress has "exposed her nude upper body" is simply not relevant in a biographic article in an encyclopedia. This is not a matter of withholding "truth" - there are a wide number of equally irrelevant albeit true facts that I would remove in the same fashion (e.g. what brand of shoes she was wearing in the latest episode of The Comeback). Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Furthermore, statements like this reduce the credibility of Wikipedia, by making it look like "Beavis and Butt-head's guide to naked flesh in movies". There must be more relevant things to mention about Malin Akerman's acting than the fact that she's once taken her shirt off in front of the camera. / Alarm 12:37, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I would support you Alarm, but for erotica-fans like me, it is somewhat interesting. Now I can look her up here: [1]. //Fred-Chess 20:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

While the above link is interesting, I think this would make for a much better picture, though I'm not exactly sure it's fair use: [2] Those copyright laws are a bitch; but someone can try uploading it since I don't know all the rules and criteria, etc. --Wikiwøw ­­ 20:21, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

It states in the first paragraph that she is a "model, actress, and singer", but there is no information in the article regarding her singing career, band, or album releases. If she does actually have a singing background, someone should add some creditable information (Band, position, instrument(s) played, album releases, etc) about it to the article, and don't forget your sources.  Is this singing in the shower?  For that, I'd gladly buy a ticket...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.254.40.129 (talk) 16:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC) 

I agree. Info has been removed. -Duribald (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Good you agreed. Without doing the research. Check her Swedish Wikipedia page. The information is there and she has indeed been a singer.
"Åkerman är sångerska i bandet The Petalstones (tidigare namngett Ozono)."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.221.32.193 (talk) 21:01, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
That's very nice, and it's okay to add it if you have a reliable source, but why is it in the lead? Is she notable as a musician? Is it much more than a hobby? A lot of actors are in bands, that doesn't mean we mention it in the introductory sentence in the lead. -Duribald (talk) 22:10, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I know the subject of the spelling of her last name has been mentioned before, but I think it has be done spelled as it was originally. Since she is Swedish and her name is Swedish spells with Å and not A in Swedish media, therefore it should be moved to Åkerman.
In the movie "27 dresses" and others,  she is credited as Åkerman. 
http://www.gp.se/gp/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=235&a=410640
http://www.gp.se/gp/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=257&a=482372
True, it spells with an A on "her" website, but I doubt the reliability of her site just for the fact it has a link to IMDB right on the main page and the very first page seems like an advertisement for the watchmen movie.
Norum (talk) 20:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Norum, the most obvious point to make is that both your citations are in Swedish.  She may be Swedish, and the Swedish media may spell her name with Swedish diacritics.  This is not, however, the Swedish wikipedia.  It's the English wikipedia.  And the established fact is that her name typically drops the diacritic in English, and that is rightfully the name of the article.Erudy (talk) 22:43, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
The point is that this is how the original media spell her name and her own website does not seem to be reliable source as it seem to be more of an advertisement than an actual website.
So maybe we should change all the Näslunds, Jönssons and Försbergs into Naslunds, Jonssons and Forsbergs just because this is english Wikipedia? This is just ridiculous. The names should be as they are spelled in the original version.  I looked for some other examples in english Wikipedia and I found some Polish names. It is Józef Piłsudski, Władysław Sikorski and Edward Rydz-Śmigły and not Jozef Pilsudski, Wladyslaw Sikorski and Edward Rydz-Smigly. And there are many more examples like that. If this is done with polish names, then it can be done with Åkerman's name as well.
Or maybe now these will be changed too, because this is the english Wikipedia? Norum (talk) 01:15, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

It's an interesting issue. According to Wikipedia policy you should use the version of the name found most commonly in the English language sources used for the article. However, this would mean that we would have to rename all articles about Swedish people, whose names contain å, ä, ö, é or è; for example Alexandra Dahlström or Tomas von Brömssen. English speaking media rarely to never use these letters, since they simply don't have them on their keyboards. Does this mean that they rename people? That there is an English language "version" of the name? Does miss Å/Akerman have two different names in the public records of Sweden and Canada? It's interesting philisophically, but this is Wikipeda and as I mentioned there is policy on the issue - Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English): "Follow the general usage in English verifiable reliable sources in each case, whatever characters may or may not be used in them.", "The references for the article should themselves be reliable sources; if one name is clearly most commonly used in the English-language references for the article, use it. If (as will happen occasionally) something else is demonstrably more common in reliable sources for English as a whole, and this is not a question of national varieties of English, use that instead." and "The native spelling of a name should generally be included in the first line of the article..." -Duribald (talk) 14:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Or...we could go around to all the Arabic, Asian, Hebrew, Cyrillic, etc. Wikipedias and demand they use the English spellings of people like Madonna and Kanye West. -->David Shankbone 17:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
This is really just about North Americans being lazy in learning the proper spelling of foreign last names. Of course it is different when it comes to non-latin alphabets. I think if we stick with using the original spelling of the name, it would give people in North America a little bit more perspective. I think there is no point in changing foreign sounding names (as used in an examples above) into the English spelling, but leave it in the original version, especially considering that if an English speaking person types the name the English way, it will still redirect them to the right person. Not to mention that Åkerman's titles on Wikipedia have her listed with Å, not A. Another example - Johan Åkerman, a Swedish hockey player. His name is spelled with Å on English language sites. Norum (talk) 21:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I think you make some interesting points, and there is certainly no consistency on Wikipedia in the application of policy - which is seen in the actual article, where she is called "Akerman" three times and "Åkerman" sixteen times. But there's actual policy on this one, and perhaps that policy should be discussed in general, rather than in the context of one article. In such a discussion I would probably agree with you - there's really no reason not to write people's names "properly", as long as it is in the latin alphabet and redirects are made from common English transliterations. -Duribald (talk) 01:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Also Anton Strålman...so many examples. Speaking of the policy, where can this be discussed? I mean this is something worth looking into. Norum (talk) 01:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Try the talk page of the policy itself: Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(use_English). -Duribald (talk) 11:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
This is hardly a question of North American laziness with spelling names correctly.  This is a universal issue in languages that words need to conform to linguistic rules, including the alphabet used by a language.  This is the English Wikipedia, and in English there is no "Å".  Because "A" and "Å" look similar, we think it all makes sense and why not, but the discussion page Duribald links to above shows the silliness of how far this goes:

All the foreign article names are absurd, but it's the policy. I'm sure one day I'll type in Warsaw and be redirected to Warszawa. --KP Botany (talk) 18:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I have placed a WP:RM request to move Libingan ng mga Bayani back to Cemetery of the Heroes. Further discussion of this move should take place at Talk:Libingan ng mga Bayani#Requested move. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 03:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, we could also tell the Poles to rename Cemetery of the Heroes, which they call pl:Cmentarz Bohaterów w Teguig, to be the standard Tagalog version of Libingan ng mga Bayani, but it doesn't make sense.  We have a Tagalog Wikipedia, and this is not it.  What is being argued is that everyone has to learn everyone else's languages and alphabets so so that we can comically watch our English readers struggle to pronounce and translate sounds, words and alphabets they have no familiarity with; nobody on the planet does this, unless you are learning Esperanto.  -->David Shankbone 16:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Interesting fact: The discussion on the page move of Libingan ng mga Bayani actually resulted in no move being done - because of the policy you're advocating. English is an official language of the Philipines, and consequently most English speaking sources refer to the place as Libingan ng mga Bayani - including the official act that renamed the place. Absurd? -Duribald (talk) 22:33, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
People's names are one thing, but places, especially with a longer name are something totally different. I have to agree on that one, it would not make sense. As for the A and Å. True, they look almost the same, but it totally changes the sound. Å is pronounced more o. Another thing I have noticed, Swedish names with é in them, are still being written like that in the English Wiki as such. It would be insane to switch all the foreign names into the english version, that is why I think Wiki should allow the original spelling of the names in here. Hitler is still listed as Adolf, not Adolph. de la Rosa is still Pedro, not Peter. Fisichella is still written as Giancarlo, not John Carl. There are so many examples. Norum (talk) 22:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

This is a borderline case. If she still had Sweden as her base, it would be totally clear that she should be moved to Malin Åkerman, since that's her "real name". However, it seems she has emigrated more-or-less permanently to Canada, which could mean that she is naturalized under this spelling. If she works under "Akerman" there, it's probably better to list her under that spelling. Tomas e (talk) 22:17, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
The same could be said for Swedish hockey players who've more or less emigrated to North America, someone like Nicklas Lidström (lived there for 20+ years) will probably never be referred to as Lidström in the US, just Lidstrom (as I think it says on his jersey), still doesn't change the Swedish name on the English wikipedia. chandler 20:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Malin Åkerman/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Muboshgu (talk · contribs) 23:25, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
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It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
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a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

I think this says it all. I've never seen a peer review with so few suggestions for improvement before. This article is very well done, all I did was add a couple wikilinks. Keep up the good work, and think about reviewing articles when you're comfortable with the criteria.

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Åkerman has a Swedish passport and became an American citizen in October 2018. She lived in Canada for most of her life, but says she never was a citizen. So, should all the categories involving Canada, such as "20th-century Canadian actresses", be removed? Pancake (talk) 17:16, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

I frankly don't care either way, but the article should:

mention and explain the issue.
be consistent.
Currently it looks amateurish.  --91.5.109.82 (talk) 14:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC)