# Talk:Indianapolis Museum of Art

There is a small painting on the first floor that has a group of ladies in a shop looking at paintings that are all based on works by the same artist.  Does anyone know what the artists and title of this painting are?  I can't find it on the website, and I no longer live in the area to see for myself. --Scottandrewhutchins 18:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

This event is scheduled for February, but preparations should start sooner.  I suggest if you want to participate you folks form an ad-hoc committee and get in touch with the museum people.  Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 01:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I propose splitting out the section on Oldfields to a separate article.  It is NRHP-listed and further is a U.S. National Historic Landmark and there is extensive documentation available to expand the material.  Currently Oldfields redirects to the "Indanapolis Museum of Art".  Readers arriving from clicking on links to Oldfields currently find themselves without explanation at IMA article, which has no upfront mention of the NRHP / NHL. doncram (talk) 23:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

This article was recently overhauled. Any thoughts are welcome. I will state that I updated certain portions that were recently cut down significantly, due to the fact that some edits altered the meaning of the sentence (diff) or removed pertinent information (diff) & (diff). I do want to make sure that these edits are neutral, and understand that my original phrasing may not have been. Once again, thoughts are welcome and I appreciate the dialogue! HstryQT (talk) 01:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I added the latitude and longitude to the info box - could someone who knows how add a Geohack tag? Or I'll figure it out at some point. - PKM (talk) 02:59, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi everyone. Max Anderson is no longer the CEO of the IMA. He has now at the Dallas Museum of Art.[1][2][3] Sarah (talk) 16:24, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

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I believe it is time to change the name of this article to "Newfields". Newfields is the name used for the website, the large sign at the intersection of 4000 N. Michigan Road and W. 38th Street, and is how the specific place is referred to as in most articles
The beginning sentence would now read: 

Newfields is a 152-acre (0.62 km2) campus that houses the Indianapolis Museum of Art (IMA), an encyclopedic art museum. It is located at the the corner of 4000 N. Michigan Road and W. 38th Street, near downtown Indianapolis, northwest of Crown Hill Cemetery. Newfields also houses the Lilly House, The Garden, The Virginia B. Fairbanks Art & Nature Park: 100 Acres, the Beer Garden, and more.
I was hoping to make sure there is no large objections to this move.

I'm not sure that is the best way to handle it. As I understand it, Newfields is the name for the entire complex, of which IMA is a part, just like Oldfields and the other components (all of which have separate articles). It seems to me it would be better to create a new article for Newfields discussing the complex as a whole, and move the material in this article that is not directly connected with the IMA to it. In addition, the article names possibly could be changed by appending "at Newfields" it each, although I'm not sure that would be necessary. Indyguy (talk) 19:39, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
In terms of "at Newfields", I think we can get away with just adding it to the first sentence, since the WP:COMMONNAME would be their current titles. I wanted to see what splitting up the articles would look like, and in doing so, I've come across a pretty big issue. All history and initiatives taken by the organization were previously said to that of the IMA. The history in particular of Newfields is that of the IMA. The organization just outgrew the name of "Indianapolis Museum of Art" and needed a banner for the entire campus. While Newfields refers to the campus, it also refers to the actions of it's board members and leadership, which would have previously been referred to as the board members and leadership of the IMA, making the IMA bigger than just a part of the campus like Oldfields. Because of this, Newfields absolutely has to have the history of the IMA in the article, as that is the correct logical progression of the entity. However, it would seem strange to have an IMA article without the history of the IMA, so we would have to have severe overlap in both articles. In my mind, this leads me to the conclusion that we should have Newfields be the name of the article, with the IMA continuing to be a part of the main article. You can find my very very rough draft for Newfields (if we find it necessary to split the articles) here.  Cerebral726 (talk) 14:03, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Also, looking at their tax returns we can see that Indianapolis Museum of Arts is still the legal name of the company, and they are "doing business as" Newfields. To that point, I believe the intro paragraph should read:  Newfields is a 152-acre (0.62 km2) campus that houses the Indianapolis Museum of Art (IMA), Lilly House, The Garden, The Virginia B. Fairbanks Art & Nature Park: 100 Acres, the Beer Garden, and more. It is located at the the corner of North Michigan Road and West 38th Street, near downtown Indianapolis, northwest of Crown Hill Cemetery. There are exhibitions, classes, tours, and events, many of which change seasonally. The entire campus was previously referred to as the Indianapolis Museum of Art, but in 2017 the campus and organization were renamed to "Newfields" to better reflect the breadth of offerings and venues. The "Indianapolis Museum of Art" now specifically refers to the main art museum building, as well as the legal name of the organization doing business as Newfields.

I have largely updated the article to include Newfields where it is needed. As there haven't been any follow ups by the one dissent (albeit no other supporters either), I'm going to go ahead and request a move for the article today. Cerebral726 (talk) 13:48, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

On October 2, 2019, a copyright violation notice was incorrectly brought against Draft:Newfields, claiming the text was copied from here. The draft for Newfields was copied from the Indianapolis Museum of Art as discussed here. I looked back at the latest revision before the article in question was published on 3/23/2016, and found that the Wikipedia text predates the ArchiTravel article . In fact, the text was first introduced in 2011 with this edit that completely overhauled the article. Please note that there was no copyright violation on my or anyone on Wikipedia's part in this instance and make sure the current version of the text in question goes undeleted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerebral726 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 3 October 2019 (UTC) 

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