# Talk:Follow God

Nice to see a thumbnail of the lyric video in the infobox, anyone think they could upload a snapshot of the music video so it can be included in the accompanying section? I would but I'm not too good at reducing quality... --Kyle Peake (talk) 11:24, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

@Nice4What: Do you believe the sample of this track needs fixes for the captions? --Kyle Peake (talk) 09:08, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

@Nice4What: Any updates on this? --Kyle Peake (talk) 13:01, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

In the sentence that references West mentioning God and Ray West, the latter needs to be named as his real father there so that it doesn't cause confusion due to father being mentioned before that occasion in the sentence. Putting this here because it has been switched twice by now. Edit: you can put biological that's fine. --Kyle Peake (talk) 13:01, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Garçon de chômage: You can't add fake cover art, especially one of GA status. Lyric video thumbnails have been used at Violent Crimes (song) and All Mine (Kanye West song), another GA article. The title screen of a music video is a cover used to promote the single. Discuss here before making more bold edits. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Nice4What: Yes and the images on those pages are cropped to be a square. It IS the same pic, just cropped. If you want to add the caption "Thumbnail of the lyric video" like on the two pages that you mentioned, that clearly don't feature the FULL thumbnail, that's fine. And since you bring it up; neither of those images are the cover arts for those songs. They're screenshots of a video used as a thumbnail. Can you point to anywhere else official those images are used to showcase the songs? No, you can't. To be clear, neither the full thumbnail nor the cropped thumbnail of the lyric video to "Follow God" are official either. One just happens to be more presentable than the other. --Garçon de chômage (talk) 21:22, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
@Garçon de chômage: "All Mine" and "Violent Crimes" aren't cropped, those videos have a 1:1 ratio. The current infobox is the thumbnail of the song taken directly from YouTube, not just a screenshot. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
@Nice4What: No, https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TrQ7w1bdNvY/maxresdefault.jpg that's the thumbnail, and the thumbnail IS a screenshot from the video. --Garçon de chômage (talk) 22:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
YouTube can't display 1:1 thumbnails, so it adds the black border. And "Vevo" appears as an overlay for official artists. Point being, the "Follow God" lyrics video isn't presented in a 1:1 ratio. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 02:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Fine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I think it should be cropped like other thumbnails that are used, but you seem to be deadset on keeping it like this, even though I'm not the only person who's taken issue with this. --Garçon de chômage (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Nice4What, just to clarify as the GA reviewer I took an issue with the inappropriate use and fair use rationale of a lyric video thumbnail in the cover art parameter in the review. If it is not the cover art but a lyric video screenshot then it does not belong there. There  is no consensus for this type of use and several editors at Template talk:Infobox song have agreed that this as inappropriate use, not encyclopedic and "image-for-the-sake-of-an-image". Cool Marc ✉ 08:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
@Coolmarc: Thanks! I moved it to a more appropriate spot. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 16:22, 30 May 2020 (UTC)