# Talk:Hoyt–Schermerhorn Streets station

As can be seen on Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation/New York City Subway/station names, this station has many similar names. The map says Hoyt-Schermerhorn, signs say Hoyt-Schermerhorn Street, and timetables say Hoyt-Schermerhorn Streets. A couple weeks ago, a track worker was killed at the station. There are many articles from different newspapers, none of which use "Streets". Both "Street" and no suffix at all are used, but including "Street" is what the MTA does when it has the room. --NE2 08:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

"Hoyt-Schermerhorn Street" is grammatically incorrect, as Hoyt Street and Schermerhorn Street are different streets. "Streets" should be used. Tinlinkin 13:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
The previous title had the division and line moniker. My suggestion is we return back to that. Besides, the move was supposed to replace the en dash, but instead he unilaterally moved it without the two monikers. The only way we are going to get things done, NE2, is if you listen to other people have to say and not blatantly make your own decisions. As you said before, be bold, but don't be reckless. --Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 18:18, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
The MTA and the media use "Street". I don't think they consider it gramatically incorrect. --NE2 19:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
The MTA is a really discombobulated organization of nonchalant and lazy people. I should know; my brother works for them. The present name is grammatically incorrect because there are two different streets that serve the station. If you think there are some errors they are unaware of, let them know. --Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 00:38, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I guess the MTA knows their signage is incorrect because service advisories use "Sts". The media follow from station signage, so that's why we see "Street". (I actually do not trust the media always on transit issues becuase their accuracy is often not perfect, but that's not a discussion I should pursue here.) Nearby Smith-Ninth Streets station mosaics use "Street" which I clearly think is not accurate. I definitely think all stations with intersections as station names must be indicated as such: as plural names. Tinlinkin 04:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
That's probably valid. --NE2 06:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I am trying to make a station layout for this station. However, there is a problem: going eastbound into the station, the G train goes northbound, while the A C trains go southbound, and vice versa for the other direction. Should I just use "westbound" or "eastbound" for my layout, or do I need to do something else? Epic Genius 20:41, 11 March 2013 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epicgenius (talk • contribs)  

You have already created one layout for a similar case: Seventh Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line). Your solution there seems to be correct. Vcohen (talk) 20:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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@Kew Gardens 613 and Epicgenius: The lede mentions the JFK Express service using the outer platforms until the 1990s, but the prose doesn't mention the service and says 1981. Which is correct? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:10, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't think the JFK Express stopped here. According to the JFK Express page, The route [...] ran express to Jay Street–Borough Hall in Downtown Brooklyn. From that point on, it ran non-stop on the IND Fulton Street Line and IND Rockaway Line to Howard Beach–JFK Airport. it is cited to this source. I have removed mention of the JFK Express here. epicgenius (talk) 13:58, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

For some reason, the G train is listed as going to Court Square via Bergen Street and to Church Avenue via Fulton Street even though it should be reversed. Someone please fix this. SteelersDiclonious (talk) 02:53, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Do you know what happened here? Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:51, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
@Kew Gardens 613: @SteelersDiclonious: That's on me, I got myself twisted around looking at maps. I'll fix that now. Cards84664 14:55, 8 July 2022 (UTC)