# Talk:Místico

WWE's site - http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/sin-cara/sin-cara-suspended - lists his real name as Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde not what is listed on this page. Thoughts? IanPCP (talk) 13:35, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Mexico is going through a huge boom period right now, similar to the US in the late 90's. Mistico is the most popular wrestler in the country right now probably, and I think all this deserves mention...especially the fact he is top dog during the boom period...--Donnie from the mean streets of Boston, KY 13:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Did he go through with the WWE tryout in San Jose?  If so, how did he do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.152.137.244 (talk) 01:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

1st of all, shouldnt it be " "of" Lucha Libre".
And ocording to who, he is the biggest star of lucha libre, if you ask someone else, he might say that "el santo" is the biggest star of lucha libre, so shouldnt it be the "current biggest star of lucha libre". Or the current most popular star of lucha libre, or something like that.
Whyle someone decides it, im changing or to of. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HeatGuyRed (talk • contribs) 22:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC).

Dude, look at your spelling and grammar. You're one of the last people who should be picking at someone else's mistaken word choice.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.13.211 (talk) 02:42, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

This article was automatically  assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 00:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

He was also #5 on PWI ON 2006. Only the #3 at 2007 is listed Prince Bee (talk) 23:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Only the highest ranking is listed, not all of them. MPJ-DK (talk) 04:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

What's going to be happening to the title of this page? Will it remain as Mistico or will it be changed to Sin Cara? 69.243.42.251 (talk) 23:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Since he's been mostly known as Mistico I'm guessing that it's going to stay that way.24.112.155.217 (talk) 21:06, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Looks like it's been changed. By all means, let us bow to the great WWE. I thought it should have stayed "Mistico".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.13.211 (talk) 02:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

This is just a note to anybody who moves Mistico to Sin Cara. Please wait at least six months to a year to move him to Sin Cara. Everybody who watches Lucha Libre knows him as Mistico. Please wait until six months or a year to transfer Mistico to Sin Cara. Thanks for reading this.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 18:38, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, but that's not going to stop Tjking131 from moving the page time after time. The page should be protected.TheFBH (talk) 02:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
"Everybody who watches Lucha Libre knows him as Mistico". Exactly why it should be moved. He's only with WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT as "Sin Cara". Pretend he's better known as Mistico though, whatever. 88.104.206.251 (talk) 01:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Hes still better known as Mistico. Hes only appeared on WWE TV once. If he was released tomorrow, the name Sin Cara would largely be forgotten by the casual wrestling fan within six months.Inhumer (talk) 01:45, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
6 months to a yearish it all depends on if he gets pushed in the company or he fades into the background. If he is a champion in a couple of months then things will have to be discussed again. 138.253.199.180 (talk) 14:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Even then, I'd argue that it might be best to move the page to his given name because of just how well known he is/was by Mistico.Inhumer (talk) 17:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
I had that same thought, in moving the article to his given name.  Mistico could still redirect there, so no harm done there.    ArcAngel   (talk) ) 15:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I follow this article as I watch WWE. I edited it the other day. But, I'd like to point out that Sin Cara isn't a heel. Dunno who thought that up.92.235.168.144 (talk) 05:43, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Guys, It has been more then long enough. Somebody should change it over from Mistico to Sin Cara.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.63.18 (talk) 02:52, 3 December 2013 (UTC) 

Isn't his weight billed as 196 lb in the WWE? 161.130.178.7 (talk) 23:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Compared to mysterio's weight: It would be 21lb  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.98.153 (talk) 18:54, 23 July 2011 (UTC) 

The fake Sin Cara is supposed to feud with the "real" Sin Cara soon..86.184.86.42 (talk) 21:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a source? 24.7.25.120 (talk) 05:06, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

The Sin Cara character returned on the August 12 edition of SmackDown... After another week of Arias portraying Sin Cara, Urive returned under the mask on August 20 at a live event in Tacoma, Washington. On August 26 it was reported that Urive had been sent home from the week's SmackDown tapings, with Arias once again appearing on TV under the Sin Cara mask. ...  However, at the tapings of the September 16 edition of SmackDown, Urive returned as the original Sin Cara, confronting the impostor version of the character.

How important is the bolded sentence? I think it's pointless since it's a house show event and Arias portrayed Sin Cara for weeks in a row on WWE programming. Could we summarise it to: "From August 12 to September 9, Arias solely played Sin Cara on WWE programming."? Starship.paint (talk) 05:38, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I see that all wrestlers' articles are named by the ring name used by the wrestler. Sin Cara has joined WWE now 18 months ago. Isn't it time to drop his old ring name ? Regards, Bright Darkness (talk) 01:30, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Universally, no. I think Mexico and some regions still think of him as Místico, not Sin Cara. He was incredibly popular for many years under that name before he became Sin Cara, so I think it's too early for a rename..... yet. Srsrox (talk) 03:14, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

On the 20th(21st?) February episode of Superstars, he debuted a new finisher against Drew McIntyre. After setting Drew up with a kick to the legs, he performed something akin to a headscissors take-down on a kneeling Drew. Still too early to add, but if he does it again a few more times, probably could. No name, so probably just list as Headscissors *something*(facebuster?) to kneeling opponent. 218.212.229.157 (talk) 15:23, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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Comments
"those that portray the good guys" — Those who? Wrestlers? If so, mention it for clarity.
Non wrestlers can be faces or heels, I clarified - better??
"he worked under the name Místico (Spanish for "Mystic") a religious ring character" — Comma should come between ")" and "a" (It should be ".....Mystic"), a religious.....".
Fixed
Too many references in the lead. Remove them as per the citations section in WP:LEAD and add them in the body.
A lot of references to his match-ups are missing in the "Rise to stardom (2004–2009)" sub-heading, particularly in the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs. Please rectify them.
I will research this and fix it.
Fixed
"After winning the Gran Alternativa, Místico was nicknamed El Principe de Plata y Oro (the Prince of Silver and Gold), after the main colors of his outfits. Shortly afterward, the bookers began teaming him with other established técnicos (faces), such as Negro Casas and Shocker, against the top rudo (heel) groups, Los Guerreros del Infierno and La Furia del Norte. His stature made him an underdog and his high-flying moves, such as diving arm-drags, made him popular with Mexico City crowds. Wrestling Observer voted Místico the 2006 "Performer of the Year", "Biggest Box Office Draw", and "Best Flying Wrestler" in their "Year-End Awards". He was also ranked third in Pro Wrestling Illustrated's list of the top 500 wrestlers of 2007." — Source(s)?
"The match was well received by the audience in attendance and fans near the ring threw money into the ring as a sign of appreciation. Two weeks later, he participated in his first singles main event match when he faced Los Guerreros del Infierno leader Último Guerrero in Arena México. He won the fall in two falls after Guerrero was disqualified in the first fall and was pinned in the second with a small package. The match sparked a program with the recently turned Dr. Wagner, Jr. teaming with Místico against Último Guerrero and Rey Bucanero. After that program died down, Místico became involved in a feud with Perro Aguayo Jr. and his Los Perros del Mal group. After defeating Aguayo in a singles match, the two exchanged hair versus mask challenges so Místico was added to the already planned eight-man cage match where the last man in the cage lost his hair or mask. Místico joined Negro Casas, Heavy Metal, Universo 2000 and Máscara Mágica against Aguayo's group consisting of Damián 666, Halloween and Héctor Garza leading up to the match but neither Místico or Aguayo were involved in the finish of the match where Damián pinned Máscara Mágica. In September, he reheated his feud with Último Guerrero with another singles match but in the third fall, he was attacked by Atlantis, turning Atlantis heel. Místico worked a short program with Atlantis but after he defeated Atlantis in a singles match in October, Atlantis focused more on former tag partner Blue Panther." — Source(s),MPJ-DK?
"In July 2008, Místico traveled to China and participated in the second Beijing International Martial Arts Training Camp, organized by Belgium-based martial arts instructor Mike Martello. Throughout the training camp, Místico received instruction in Chinese traditional wrestling (Shuaijiao) from Shuaijiao expert Yu Shaoyi (two times regional champion of Beijing) and joint-locking techniques (Qinna) from Mike Martello. The event was covered by Televisa and was broadcast in a series of 16 clips during the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games." — Source(s)?
I will research this and fix it.
Wikilink "Cody Rhodes" at the first mention of his name.
Fixed
More later, MPJ-DK.....

Fixed most issues so far, thank you for the feedback up until now. MPJ-DK (talk) 02:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

More comments
" In 2009, he starred in a commercial endorsing the PAN (National Action Party) political party in Mexico.
Urive, as Sin Cara, appears as a playable character in the video games WWE '12, WWE '13 and WWE 2K14." — Source(s)?

Sources must be provided for both Tornado Lucha Elite Championship (2016) and WWA Middleweight Championship (1 time).
That's about it from me, MPJ-DK. Resolve all of these comments and I will pass the article immediately.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 14:53, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

He "In other Media" section is now fully sourced. More to come. MPJ-DK (talk) 01:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Ssven2 I believe I have addressed the las issue, thank you for your patience and your great feedback. Please let me know if there is anything else that needs to be done. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:51, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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