# Talk:Hud (1963 film)

Patricia Neal was 35 when Hud was shot.  But here her character is described as "middle-aged".  "Middle age" is generally understood to begin in the 40s, and is defined by Miriam-Webster as starting at age 45.  Does Neal specifically play an older character, or are we defining "middle-age" down for women?

The bibliography used in the article defined the character as a middle-aged woman. The description may have to do with the fact that Alma was in her middle thirties and divorced. Nowadays that does clearly not indicate anything, but I guess that by the standards of the early 1960s society, she was maybe seen as middle-aged. Let's not forget that it was made clear throughout the film she had a turbulent relationship with her previous husband and a few years had gone by in-between that time and she working for the Bannon family.
Aside from whatever took anybody to say she was middle-aged, or to define whether she may or may not have been considered at the time so, I just erased the word from the article. I don't think there's too much need to look into that anyway. It may have been the opinion of the writer. Or it could just be that in the book "Halmea" was maybe older?
It should be mentioned by the way that Ravetch and Frank Jr. were really progressive writers for their time, and in my opinion did not intend to portray Alma in that light anyway. You can read their feelings about the character here.--GDuwenTell me! 19:02, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I have restored an old version of the article since it was again written to contain essay-like phrases or personal opinions. We've been through this before and it was clarified in the first Good Article Nomination that it should be avoided. Forget not Wikipedia:No original research.--GDuwenTell me! 21:14, 8 February 2016 (UTC)