# Talk:Eldridge Street Synagogue

If anyone has a picture of the building, I think one inside and one outside picture would be appropriate, however I can't find any public domain pictures on the net, so if anyone has any pics they've taken that would be very useful.
--Bachrach44 15:16, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that The Eldridge Street Synagogue will be happy to include more photo's on the site.--Mare 21:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Eldridge street isn't exactly among the oldest East European  synagoguues built by Ashkenazi Jews.    Beth Israel Philadelphia built its Crown Street building in 1849 (philadelphia already had seen buildings erected by German and Sepahardi congregations.  San francisco was founded with two 1851 congregations, Emaneul for Germans as Sherityh Israel for Poles.  Sherith Israel put a building up in 1854.  Baltimore's B'nai Israel on Lloyd Street went up - for East European Jews - in 1876.  I'm pretty sure there were other East European buildings.  As for surviving buildings, B'nai Israel's building is still there.OldShul (talk) 13:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)OldShul

Agreed. I deleted the sentence "The Eldridge Street Synagogue is the first synagogue erected in the United States by Eastern European Jews." as this is almost certainly not correct. Oncenawhile (talk) 11:25, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Referenced. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:02, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

There's been some edit warring here over the involvement of an architecture firm, with nobody doing their homework. Here's a reliable source: 
Spence, Rebecca (August 3, 2007). "Synagogues Throw Energy Behind Green Movement". The Forward.: "In New York City, the Eldridge Street Project, dedicated to preserving Jewish life at the historic Lower East Side synagogue built in 1887, has been working on its 20-year restoration project from a green perspective. ... Jill Gotthelf, an architect and associate at Walter Sedovic Architects who has worked on the restoration since 1990, said that synagogues and Jewish organizations have caught on to green building over the past few years ... because it is finally a more affordable proposition. --John Nagle (talk) 16:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

New York Magazine...
Reconstructionist Judaism
Two Jewish cultural centers reinvent themselves for the demographics of a changing city.
By Justin Davidson.
Published Jan 7, 2008
The architects, Walter Sedovic and Jill H. Gotthelf, avoided scrubbing away its patina of experience. They didn’t strip the mottled gloss off the wood and start again; they softened and reflowed the old finish, retaining the magnificent antiquity of the paneling. It’s no more authentic to roll time back to 1907 than it would be to choose a day twenty years before, but Sedovic and Gotthelf’s approach has the great virtue of enshrining a narrative, of intimating what it might have felt like to seek a little grandeur here when the Lower East Side was a wriggling mass of people.
http://nymag.com/arts/architecture/reviews/42591/
Littlefacts (talk) 17:28, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

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I'd like to thank Epicgenius for recent edits that improve the article. I'm intrigued by the detail map of the section of lower Manhattan that includes the site of the synagogue. Is this map in Serbian? Is there a particular reason to display it in that language? Paulmlieberman (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@Paulmlieberman, thank you, I appreciate it. Re. the map: it is indeed displaying in Serbian due to an OpenStreetMap bug. There is more information about this bug at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Serbian place names displayed on Manhattan maps, phab:T230013, and phab:T195318. I have no idea how to fix the bug over at OSM, but hopefully this gets resolved soon. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
@Epicgenius, I'm looking into this. The link in the synagogue article is, as far as I can tell (I've removed the opening and closing curly braces so WP doesn't try to process it):
district_map = Maplink|frame=yes|plain=yes|frame-align=center|frame-width=300|frame-height=300|zoom=14|type=point|marker=|title=Eldridge Street Synagogue
What is this a link to? I suspect it's a link to a file in wikimedia, but, if so, how do I find it? And, if I can find the corresponding map on OpenStreetMap, edit it, fix it, I don't know how to then replace the current street map in wikimedia, or create a new one, and change the link in the Eldridge Street Synagogue article. Paulmlieberman (talk) 15:44, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
@Paulmlieberman, that is correct; this is the wikicode that allows the map to be displayed. The data is taken from OpenStreetMap, where (funnily enough), the English names for Manhattan neighborhoods are correctly displayed. This is then processed through Wikimedia Maps. However, the Wikimedia Maps website also displays Manhattan neighborhood names in English.Somehow, when the map from Wikimedia Maps was transcluded onto this article, the names got translated into Serbian. This is particularly strange, as this issue only occurs when the map is transcluded directly onto articles; the original maps from OSM and Wikimedia Maps don't have this issue. I have no idea why this is happening, because the two original maps both display the English names. I tried a hard purge of this page to force the map to display the English names, but this seems not to work. For now, I'd suggest that you subscribe to, and comment on, the Phabricator tickets that I linked above. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Village Pump conversation archived at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 212#Serbian place names displayed on Manhattan maps. TSventon (talk) 13:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
It's fixed! It's fixed! Somehow, the OpenStreetMap map is now in English. I checked, and Tribeca is fixed too. What's interesting is that, if you view an old version of the article, the map is in English there too. This makes sense, as the article does not actually contain the image, but, rather, a link to the OpenStreetMap website. Paulmlieberman (talk) 14:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)