# Talk:HMS Defence (1861)

5 inch breechloaders weren't around in 1861. ?? Rcbutcher (talk) 15:50, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

My sources all agree 5-inch guns, not 4.7 inch or any other caliber. Perhaps these were the Armstrong 70-pounders that supposedly were never accepted into service. I dunno.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
But the article text then refers to 40-pounders, which fits. A GA artcle needs to be consistent. Rcbutcher (talk) 04:18, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Indeed it did, deleted. Good catch.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
I think the breechloading 40-pounder is more likely to be the correct one, it went along with the Armstrong 110-pounder. There was no official service 5-inch breechloader at the time, and there is no way any experimental or developmental ordnance would have been deployed on a frontllne RN warship. I think any published references to 5-inch breechloader on this ship are errors. Rcbutcher (talk) 23:12, 7 December 2010 (UTC)