# Talk:Congestion pricing in New York City

@Epicgenius:, this month MTA Open Data uploaded a more defined polygon file for the Central Business District area to be tolled, which should probably replace the file on this page. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 21:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up @Kew Gardens 613. I've updated the map now. I also removed a few shapes that have zero roads (whoever created this map probably drew this as one large shape, then cut out the FDR Drive, West Side Highway, and some of the bridges and tunnels). – Epicgenius (talk) 21:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
It actually wasn't created as one large shape, but never mind that. Expect a newly updated map on Open Data next week to ensure the issue in this story doesn't happen elsewhere. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
That's unfortunate but also hilarious (the rider probably didn't find it funny, but the MTA's reasoning is quite interesting to say the least). I guess we can just update the map when the city releases a new version on Open Data. – Epicgenius (talk) 22:22, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Do you think it makes sense to have a section noting the mitigation commitments made by the MTA, given all the attention, given to the issue? It also might be worth noting some of the findings of the Environmental Assessment and the FONSI.
In terms of other things to cover, toll shopping should be mentioned. There are likely others. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 02:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Kew Gardens 613, probably. On the other hand, it is looking more and more likely that we will have to split the page at some point, just so we can accommodate this new info (the article had 48,000 characters of prose last July, but now is 68,000+ characters). Great work on the additions by the way. – Epicgenius (talk) 02:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Agreed on a split-history should probably be split off. There is still remarkably more to add about the recent (2021-present) period on the program, including snags in the environmental review process, additional bus service, a few more details on exemptions, more on the MoveNY plan, etc., let alone the mitigations/EA findings. More is needed on the late 1970s plan that was kiboshed (I know where sources are). The post-9/11 HOV limits should probably be added, along with other similar initiatives. I do wonder if it would be worth mentioning that New York's push has lead cities like SF, LA, and Boston to consider it. There is also some insane stuff I know that I hope becomes public at some point. Thanks. Your work on this article has been amazing. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 03:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


### Proposed split
As the tin says. We need to WP:DENY. -1ctinus📝🗨 22:28, 18 January 2025 (UTC)