# Talk:Dragons in Middle-earth

Why not "dragons in Middle-earth" to match similar articles about elements of Middle earth and for natural disambiguation? (t · c) buidhe 21:24, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Buidhe: Yes, that'd be better all round. An editor made an undiscussed mass move of numerous Middle-earth articles a few weeks ago from the Middle-earth to the (Tolkien) format. I suggest they all be moved back. Chiswick Chap (talk) 03:17, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Actually this seems quite clear; Middle-earth is a notable thing in the world (not just in-universe): that's what notability means, after all. Middle-earth is known to hundreds of millions of Tolkien readers, the billion-strong audience of Peter Jackson's six Middle-earth films, and the equally large audience for Amazon's Rings of Power TV series. In short, it must be one of the best-known concepts worldwide in the English language. For the record, I agree with Buidhe that "XYZ in Middle-earth" is clear and precise, and avoids the need for disambiguation.  I've moved this one, there are others that also need attention; the disambiguating ones are the hardest. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Provided we allow enough wiggle-room to cover such characters as Chrysophylax Dives from Farmer Giles of Ham (as this article does), the elves (and a speaking tree) from Smith of Wootton Major, and the goblins from The Father Christmas Letters - none of which are part of Middle-earth - then I agree that Tolkien's writings are sufficiently distinguished by the Middle-earth brand. -- Verbarson  talkedits 12:43, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

The Long Shadow of Fáfnir: Dragons in the Works of J. R. R. Tolkien and C. S. Lewis, Łukasz Neubauer, Kraków, Libron, 2023, 292 pp., ISBN: 978-83-67209-35-9.  I haven't seen it.  Paywalled review, I think: https://doi.org/10.1080/0013838X.2025.2499351 
Publisher page(?)(PL): http://libron.pl/katalog/czytaj/id/421
2601:644:8581:75B0:305A:585F:113B:3CB3 (talk) 00:28, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Seems to be his PhD released as a monograph. Free on Academia.edu. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:31, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
I've put in a brief statement of the comparison with Lewis. Of course there may be other titbits worth mentioning. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:15, 3 September 2025 (UTC)