# Talk:GE E60

This entire article is effectively unsourced; I don't think the way to solve this is to add more unsourced information. I'm tempted to take Sturmovik (talk · contribs) up on his suggestion to stub the article and start over. I can't get them immediately but I have some books with discussion of the E60, suitable for starting over. Any takers? Mackensen (talk) 14:50, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

FWIW, the reason I removed the information added by Sturmovik (talk · contribs) just to force him to add the reference to his "GE Manual". It was bizarre that information be added, for which a reference source was known. I felt it was a lazy edit, and just wanted the reference to be added.  I'm comfortable with the rest of the article being unreferenced, but I have a new year resolution to try and ensure that where information is added, that it is correctly sourced.  Call it a "drawing a line in the sand" ... accept the past, but do not accept past behaviors as being acceptable in the future.KirksKeyKard (talk) 15:27, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Instead of deleting things try the talk page.  I couldn't find an obvious reference template for manuals, but now I don't care. BTW I was of half a mind to tear this whole article down to a stub just to give you a taste of your own medicine.  Pro tip, being obstructionist is not a very positive new year's resolution.Sturmovik (talk) 18:01, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
You've complied with my request, which was un-necessary in the first place.  A seasoned editor should not need to be reminded of one of the five pillars. i.e.  "All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable, authoritative sources." KirksKeyKard (talk) 19:34, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Much of the section on the E60C-2 appears to be plagiarized from the following source: Geissenheimer, Harold (March 9, 2002). "Rail Commentary". The New New Electric Railway Journal. Archived from the original on August 12, 2004. Retrieved August 7, 2016. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |work= (help) Here's the duplicator detector report. It's been in the article from the beginning. Mackensen (talk) 22:13, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I did the original work 10 years ago. After reviewing the page, I did cite Geissenheimer's article in 2002 as a source for NdeM's E60C-2 order. If it is deemed as plagiarization, I apologize for that and you can remove this portion if you want. Chaohwa (talk) 19:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
This is resolved; I rewrote it, then removed it altogether. Mackensen (talk) 18:56, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

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I'm having a hard time finding anything on the New Jersey Transit ownership of these locomotives beyond the newspaper articles on their purchase from Amtrak in 1983. NJT isn't my usual beat;  I'm open to suggestions. Mackensen (talk) 23:30, 27 February 2017 (UTC)