# Talk:Busr ibn Abi Artat

there is something fatal regarding his name, the Arabic speakers agreed his name should be pronounced 'Bisr' instead 'Busr' Ahendra (talk) 11:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Fatal? In most of the reliable, English-language scholarly sources his name is transliterated as "Busr". I saw some not so scholarly sources on Google books use "Bisr" so I've now created redirects for Bisr ibn Abi Arta'ah and Bisr ibn Artat and added a note next to the name in the article about alternative spellings. Also not sure which Arabic speakers you are referring to—colloquial (in which case there are many different dialects), modern standard Arabic or classical Arabic? We need reliable sources that mention Arabic speakers typically pronounce his name "Bisr". I'm aware there is confusion in the traditional sources over the name of his father (Artat or Abi Artat) and the spelling of the name Artat or Arta'ah, which I mentioned in the article with a reliable source. --Al Ameer (talk) 18:43, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
most likely classical version since my sources mostly quoting prime source from classical era Arabic historians, not contemporary translated historiansAhendra (talk) 22:09, 31 January 2020 (UTC)