# Talk:Joseph (art model)

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Thank you for creating this page!
Ppt91 (talk) 19:58, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

General notes regarding possible improvements. Comments and feedback welcome.

lead expansion to include more information about his arrival in France and later work Y
section organization: is the current division useful? Or should it go just by years i.e. "Early career (1804-1824) and Later career (1824-1860s) based on the date he was hired at the Academy of Fine Arts with a subheading2 for the Raft of the Medusa? Y
expansions for the later career section Y
his work with Théodore Chassériau and a short description of the Study for negro based on the Artforum article which is a review of Black models: from Géricault to Matisse (the one organized in Paris after Columbia University) already referenced earlier and any other relevant sources; important to discuss "body of a life model functioned as a floating signifier, assuming different meanings when inserted into different compositional contexts" (Arforum) and how in the case of Joseph that context was tied his identity as a Black man prior to and after the abolishing of slavery in 1848 Y
other examples: "Ethiopian eunuch receiving baptism in a painting by Abel de Pujol (1848)" and "enslaved captive being whipped in a work by Marcel Antoine Verdier (1843)" (Artforum); we should determine how these should be best addressed and any additional visual material needed for the article Y
late life and decline in interest (unsure about the best sources here) Y
some more sources: https://www.gazette-drouot.com/en/article/black-models/7011 and https://www.nybooks.com/online/2019/06/22/reframing-the-black-model-at-the-musee-dorsay/ (unsure how much is there about Joseph and also behind a paywall); the catalogue for the exhibition is also important, but not available online, so will need to request from library and Alhadeff, Albert. Theodore Gericault, Painting Black Bodies: Confrontations and Contradictions. United States: Taylor & Francis, 2020 also library request
courtesy ping @Netherzone (whenever you have moment, as there is no rush whatsoever) Ppt91talk 00:03, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Stuff to address and edit:
lead expansion; too short relative to article length Y
more should be added about representation of Black people in French art 18th to 19th c. in the context of Joseph's modeling Y
additional source Beunaiche, Arnaud. Je suis Joseph. N.p.: Editions Emporte-Voix, 2021, which could be useful; biographical fiction novel by a French writer from 2021 Y
later life could use more context if possible with additional literature Y
Ppt91talk 18:59, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Noting that a moment from the aftermath of the wreck of the French naval frigate Méduse, which ran aground off the coast of today's Mauritania on 2 July 1816 has been copied from The Raft of the Medusa with appropriate attribution included in edit summary. Ppt91talk 18:37, 26 March 2023 (UTC)