# Talk:Game of Change

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Reviewer: HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk · contribs) 03:53, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall: Pass
Pass/Fail: 


### Review
#### Lead
Maybe WL segregationists
 Done –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Wl Bye (sports)
 Done –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)


#### Background
The first time you mention Ramblers (out of lead) is in the second paragraph. Should probably be mentioned earlier
 Done –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
I would mention On February 18, Loyola was awarded one of eleven at-large bids for the tournament before the February 28 incident
 In progress The Feb 28 incident was less of a singularly-important event, and more like an example of what they were facing all season. But I see how the lack of chronological order is confusing when I only touch on the discrimination aspect so briefly. I think I'm going to split the discrimination bit into its own paragraph and add more details of other incidents. I will try to add that shortly... –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Kind of odd how the Dean W. Colvard sentence is by itself. Please either merge it or expand on it to preferably three-four sentences.
 Done Good point. I've now added two sentences about the large volume of letters Colvard was receiving prior to his decision. –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Why is reference 13 used twice for quotes? It can just be placed at the end of the second quote
 Done –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch. Don't love the use of In any event.
 Done Changed to Regardless of why, it is clear... –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)


#### Game summary
Why is reference 22 used twice for quotes? It can just be placed at the end of the second quote.
 Done –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)


#### Aftermath
Illinois is already WL above
 Done –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)


#### Legacy
Boxscore reference (#27) is not needed since the info is already stated in reference #26
 Not done Reference #27 is not strictly needed, but I wanted to include it because it provides a lot more information about the game, whereas the first reference only describes the game very briefly. –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
How can reference 28 be used to verify a fact for an event that happened after it was published?
 Comment: I've dug up an archive link for that citation if you'd like to see for yourself. Apparently the list of inductees was announced prior to the actual induction ceremony. –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Are two references needed to verify The team was also inducted into the Chicagoland Sports Hall of Fame on September 18, 2013?
 Nope; removed one –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)


### Discussion
Hi HickoryOughtShirt?4; thanks for taking the time to review this! I've made most of the changes you listed, and responded inline where I haven't changed them. Cheers, IagoQnsi (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

IagoQnsi Thank you so much, I agree with all of your notes (including why you didn't change some things). Once the in progress incident is fixed I can pass this. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:15, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
@HickoryOughtShirt?4: Okay, I think the Loyola background is good to go now. I've added info about another incident, and restructured the second and third paragraphs a bit so that there's basically one paragraph about racial issues and one about basketball performance. Let me know what you think! Thanks, IagoQnsi (talk) 19:56, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

I was curious when the name "Game of Change" came into use. It seems that it was coined when Jerald Harkness (son of player Jerry Harkness) created a documentary film titled Game of Change in 2008. The wording doesn't appear at all in Newspapers.com prior to 2008; it first appears in some articles from 2008 about the documentary (e.g. Clarion-Ledger, The Daily Journal). It'd be nice if we could find a definitive source saying that that's where the name came from, so we could mention it in the article (my digging is original research so not usable). –IagoQnsi (talk) 03:08, 4 September 2023 (UTC)