# Talk:Franz Liszt

User:Ligaturama considers this Wiki article to be his own preschool sandbox or his own toy. Arbitrarily removes images related to article content.

The debated picture:  
(Liszt's fundraising concert for the flood victims of Pest, where he was the conductor of the orchestra, Vigadó Concert Hall, Pest, Hungary, 1839)
--Mandliners (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

As you can see from my edit summary which explains this, the reasons I removed it were:
- It creates a MOS:SANDWICH issue. This article already has a lot of images, so any additions need to avoid layout problems.
- The image depicts an event that isn't mentioned in the article at all, which is contrary to MOS:PERTINENCE.
I'm glad to see that you're here to discuss this on the talk page instead of just reverting me without providing a justification in your own edit summaries. However, it's uncivil to suggest that I consider the article to be my "preschool sandbox" or my "own toy", and patently incorrect to suggest my removal was arbitrary when I provided my reasons clearly. Ligaturama (talk) 14:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
To be honest, it's not a very good image, is it. It's a bit simplistic and amateurish. The upload page gives no indication of who drew it or when. It's most likely drawn from someone's imagination. It might belong at the Pest, Hungary article, where the floods are actually mentioned, except that there appear to be plenty of images there already. 205.239.40.3 (talk) 14:52, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, I think it need not be included here. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
"- The image depicts an event that isn't mentioned in the article at all, which is contrary to MOS:PERTINENCE."
Around 90% of images can be removed by that ridiculous criteria. So this is not a real and rational reasoning.
" it's uncivil to suggest"
Sometimes, the only way to make certain individuals realize the truth is through sincere and blunt honesty.--Mandliners (talk) 11:10, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
The truth is that the rationales presented for excluding the image are more real than those presented for including. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:35, 22 January 2025 (UTC)