# Talk:El Dandy

Save the page because no one should doubt El Dandy, he is a famous wrestler.

After some research, yes I confirm he is a wrestler of some fame. However, adding the nonsense you did regarding him is not a good way to start off an article. --Durin 22:09, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
keep the page but keep the fan club off it is a internet fad that will go away when the next quote from someone they worship goes to far like this one.
Wow...who died and booked you in "Superbrawl Saturday" Mr. Bitter?
Why wouldn't there be an El Dandy page?
-- I agree. Who are these people to doubt El Dandy? Dinsdale1234 23:12, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:El Dandy/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 09:09, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Will review for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 09:09, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 


### Lead
"Gutiérrez has wrestled as recent as March 2019." - most recently in March 2019.
"He was a part of a tag team that was known as" - the text in bold is not needed
"A 2004 match against L.A. Park was voted Box y Lucha magazines "Match of the year"." - was voted "Match of the Year" by readers of Box y Lucha magazine.


### Professional wrestling career
"After five years of training he finally, reluctantly," - finally but reluctantly,
"A local promoter asked Gutiérrez if he would prefer to wrestle unmasked instead, leading to Gutiérrez to lose the mask and wrestle unmasked for the remainder of his career." - repetition of "unmasked"


### Empresa Mexicana de Lucha Libre / Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre (1981–1998)
"and also taking him under their wings." - informal; use another formal phrase
"to earn enough money to eat." - for food.
"His reign lasted 175 days, ended when Pequeño Solin defeated him on January 22, 1983." - His 175-day reign ended when
"El Dandy won his first lucha de apuestas ("bet match") against El Guerrero and as a result of the match," - repetition of "match"
"Seventy-seven days later," - A total of 77 days later,
"and in the process gave up the lower ranking Mexican National title." - relinquished
"a weight class with a 78 kg (172 lb) max limit" - a weight class with a maximum limit of 78 kilograms (172 lb)
"El Dandy moved up to the middleweight division " - progressed
"El Dandy became involved in a storyline with another middleweight competitor, El Satánico. El Satánico cost El Dandy the championship" - try not to start the beginning of the following sentence like this
"as part of the build to a Lucha de Apuestas match between the two." - build up
"Weeks later El Satánico defeated El Dandy," - how many weeks exactly?
" to even the score of two-all" - at
"El Dandy defeated Negro Casas to win the recently created CMLL World Middleweight Championship." - claim
"and then Chicaco Express" - Chicago per CageMatch source


### World Wrestling Association (1993, 2000–2001, 2007)
"While working for CMLL El Dandy also worked for the World Wrestling Association (WWA) in Tijuana, Baja California," - repetition of "working(ed)"
"El Dandy returned to WWA in 2001," - am certain the year that El Dany returned to WWA is incorrect as the next sentence says 2001
"He won the WWA World Tag Team Championship for a third time, teaming with Rey Misterio to win the vacant title on August 27, 2007." - repetition of "win"
"The team later vacated the championship for reasons that have not been made public." - for undisclosed reasons.


### World Championship Wrestling (1997–2000)
Wikilink pay-per-view
"In early 2000, El Dandy and Silver King became a regular tag team, dubbed Los Fabulosos: "the hottest men in Latin America", playing off the fact that they were not "traditionally handsome". The two were teamed up with manager Stacy Kiebler." - these two sentences need to be verified by a reliable source


### Mexican independent circuit (2000–2019)
Wikilink steel cage to the relevant article
"In Aril 2009," - typo; should be written as April
"El Dandy lost a match for the NWA Worlds Heavyweight Championship" - typo; should be spelt as World
"EL Dandy won the match, which meant that El Satánico was shaved bald." - El
"with four matches in 2016, one in 2017, and one in 2019." - and one in both 2017 and 2019.


### International Wrestling Revolution Group (2000–2004)
"He later challenged Scorpio Jr. for the IWRG Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship but lost the match." - include the date when El Dandy challenged Scorpio Jr. for the IWRG Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship


### AAA (2002–2003)
"He was soon written into a storyline rivalry with Perro Aguayo Jr. as the two clashed against each other on multiple occasions." - needs to be verified by a reliable source mentioning all this information
"faced off in a four way Lucha de Apuestas match." - four-way


### Personal life
"At one point, Gutiérrez he suffered a serious back injury that left him unable to perform for a while." - At one point of Gutiérrez's life, he sustained
"especially as few of his fellow wrestlers kept in contact with him during his hard times." - during this period.
"He turned to therapy to help, and he became a therapist." - clarify that he became a physical therapist


### Reception
"and that he had "Phenomenal matches"" - the word in bold does not need to begin with a capital letter
"by the readers of Box y Lucha magazine." - by readers


### Notes
Note H is missing the period to end the sentence
### References
The hyphen in the title of Reference 28 should be replaced by an en dash (–) per MOS:DASH
The hyphen in Reference 41's title must be replaced by an en dash for MOS:DASH compliance
Reference 44 is missing the date it was published
Reference 66 should mention that it is in Spanish
The hyphen featured in Reference 67's title should be replaced by an en dash (–) to comply with MOS:DASH
Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 13:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

All there is left is the sourcing that I will work on over the weekened.MPJ-DK (talk) 03:16, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
@MPJ-DK: Any update on the fixing of the sourcing issues? MWright96 (talk) 13:35, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
MWright96 I am stuck on the sources. I'll give it one last shot, if not, rewrite those pieces. MPJ-DK (talk) 02:58, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
@MPJ-DK: Any updates? MWright96 (talk) 15:47, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
MWright96 rewritten to be covered by sources. MPJ-DK (talk) 02:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
@MPJ-DK: Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 09:37, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

When typing in Roberto Gutierrez, the main two hits are for the footballers born in 1983 and 1991.  Technically, El Dandy's legal surname is Gutierrez Frias, correct?  Would it make sense to have a disambiguation between

Roberto Gutierrez (footballer, 1983)
Roberto Gutierrez (footballer, 1991)
Roberto Gutierrez Frias, the Mexican professional wrestler known as El Dandy
??
Or is it not really necessary because no one would refer to him or look him up by his legal name (since most know and think of him as El Dandy)? I'm not sure since I don't know much about him, the Mexican wrestling scene, or Hispanic naming norms. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 19:19, 2 July 2022 (UTC)