# Talk:Maize

Hello,
I wanted to make sure that Native Americans aren't relegated to the past. 
"Native Americans planted it [corn] alongside beans and squashes in the Three Sisters polyculture." 
Many peoples still plant 3 sisters and believe it has become popular as more non-Indigenous people are open to learning from Indigenous peoples. (though can't site and not sure how popularity and increased or decreased - so speculation) 
An idea:
"Peoples Indigenous to North and Central America observed the 3 sisters method of planting corn, beans, and squashes together to be uniquely beneficial [x number of years ago] and contiue planting them together to this day." 2600:1007:B0B5:31EA:7988:BDD3:2987:E67B (talk) 19:46, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be something about corn mazes under the uses section? I consider this to be a major enough way to use corn that it warrants at least a mention in this article, there's even a main article for them.
I don't think I'm a good enough editor to add a mention in myself though, so I'm leaving this here. ReeseyBeestey (talk) 21:00, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

THIS IS NOT A MOVE REQUEST
Last discussion closed two years ago with no consensus with a note that “in the future we may need to revaluate why this article is called maize and not corn”. 
No consensus does not mean consensus for staying at maize. There was never a decision to call this article Maize.
To repeat some of the usual arguments for corn:
Original name for article improperly moved.
North American name of a North American crop
Maize is not more universally familiar than corn, it seems like our UK friends use corn in many contexts (popcorn etc) whereas Americans use maize in only very technical contexts.
One way to see that corn is the more common name is that all corn topics (corn starch, corn syrup, creamed corn, sweet corn) on Wikipedia use corn in their names because people don’t say maize syrup.
Please read the former move requests because the arguments both for and against are better written than mine.
Please please do not tell me that maize is the consensus because it is fully not the consensus.
Please do not say there should be an FAQ because there is no consensus.
Thank you for your time. 75.172.122.225 (talk) 02:55, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

The key issue has always been WP:PRECISE. In phrases like "corn starch", "corn syrup", "creamed corn", or "sweet corn", the extra word makes the meaning clear, as it does in "corn dolly" where "corn" has a different meaning. Internationally, using "corn" alone is not precise. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:46, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Just to piggyback, the text of the article itself already outlines the key reasons why we stick with maize too, especially on the precision issue and other WP:PAG. It also doesn't help the "corn" argument that we use both corn and maize here in North America. We often get editors coming in claiming that maize isn't recognized here, but sources contradict that. We probably do need a FAQ for how often people keep bringing it up, but it's a ways down my to-do list. KoA (talk) 14:37, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
(not trying to sock puppet I’m the same guy)
The problem isn’t that the article is called maize the problem is that there is not a consensus to call the article maize. There was no decision to call the article maize. If you love the name maize you should also want a consensus and we can put up a note on top. I’m asking how do we get consensus for either
Also anecdotal but I wrote the word “maize” on the board and asked my 6th graders what it meant and none of them knew. One term is preferred by either country neither is unused. Alwaysbelieveinhope (talk) 20:25, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
@Alwaysbelieveinhope: you're just going over old ground, yet again. (1) There is no consensus to move the article to a different name, so it stays at "Maize". (2) No-one has ever disputed that in the US "corn" is the common name. (3) The issue, which you don't address, is that internationally "corn" is not precise, and this is an international English encyclopedia, not a North American one. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:14, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Oh I think arguments for keeping at the current name are not unreasonable, minor ambiguity vs. Minor unfamiliarity. I want to know if it's possible for consensus to happen, I don’t think articles should be named essentially due to a coin flip. Though I guess I might not care if my opinion won the coin flip and KoA might be the one talking complaining about consensus and coin flips Alwaysbelieveinhope (talk) 15:13, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Alwaysbelieveinhope, I don't know why you're making out like a coin was flipped. And there is consensus for this title--look at the comments here. Drmies (talk) 15:15, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
One more thing: if you had looked through the archives you would have found literally hundreds of instances of the name, and discussion on it. Just to pick one: Archive_3#Rename_the_article_to_corn, where in 2010 already David Levy pointed out that there had been many discussions. The fact that there were, and that the article's name never changed, is a clear enough indication of consensus. Drmies (talk) 15:20, 10 October 2025 (UTC)