# Talk:First generation of video game consoles

No mention of Spacewar in this article? Shouldn't it have its place somewhere in this article?

Discuss on Talk:History of video games (second-generation systems). Diceman 13:35, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

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I think those two categories should be merged into one. I don't understand the need to separate the first one from the rest.
Neilandio (talk) 22:28, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
I think so too, the Magnavox Odyssey belongs to the Odyssey series. Maxeto0910 (talk) 23:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

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This review is transcluded from Talk:First generation of video game consoles/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Gamingforfun365 (talk · contribs) 00:57, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
After making copyedits and tagging areas for cleanup, I have decided to give this article a review. From what I have already seen, the article is not ready to be promoted, and I find the C-class assessment of the article to be appropriate. However, I think it can be readily improved within a week, and I have comments about the article below:

"There were 685 home video game consoles known to have been released..." I could not find a source detailing every single home console released in the generation, nor can I find one giving the number. The number seems to be interdependent on the number of entries documented in List of first generation home video game consoles, and if none of us can even know how many such consoles released, it might be better to just remove the claim.
 Done I've re-worded and sourced. CrimsonFox talk 09:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
If the contents are already cited in the body, there is no need to cite them again in the lead.
 Done Think this is done now. CrimsonFox talk 09:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
Some parts of the article are noticeably missing reliable sources. You have a handful of areas tagged "citation needed" or the like, and some of the technical information under Comparison (e.g. media, accessories, launch prices, models) is not reliably sourced anywhere else in the article.
"This section [Home systems] lists the most popular." One of the listed consoles is the BSS 01, which the section says was unpopular and sold only about 1,000 units. I am not convinced that the BSS 01 was one of the most popular home consoles the section claims it to be, not to mention that it is a very obscure console.
Per the rewording to "notable" I think this is suitable now. I do believe because of the incorporation into the education culture and being the only one to be developed there it does make it notable. CrimsonFox talk 09:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 Done
At this point, it is too soon to promote the article, and I am still checking the sources as well as looking for anything containing mistakes or needing expansion. In the meantime, I encourage you to look at my comments and address the issues, and I should get this review done by next Sunday UTC.  Reviewing... Gamingforfun365 00:57, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! I look forward to it. Found this one a bit harder so it's nice to have some fresh eyes on it. CrimsonFox talk 09:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


### New comments
@Crimsonfox: I have left this article alone for changes to be made and for issues to be fixed, and from the looks of it I see that the article is noticeably different from when I first reviewed it, which is also a good thing. I will review this article again and check for any minor issues. I do not think that I will find anything serious that needs fixing, so expect this process to go a little faster than the previous. Also expect me to have been done by next Sunday. GaɱingFørFuɲ365 23:30, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

@Gamingforfun365: Thanks, I appreciate the effort you're putting in for the review. CrimsonFox talk 09:02, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
@Gamingforfun365: I think I've addressed everything you made note of (just chasing a page number for the WSJ reference). I decided to remove the Binatone information, I can't see anything that makes it notable for the generation. It gets a few mentions but nothing that makes it stand out. CrimsonFox talk 22:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
I am letting you know that I have almost finished verifying this article and completing the review. I do apologize for the lack of motivation and energy put into the review when I had all the spare time; there is no reason to procrastinate. I would just like to point out that as I am reviewing the article, it can become awkward how the contents are sourced. By that, I mean that the passages that are directly sourced may not quite appear in those sources, but rather in indirect citations adjacent to the statements. I am not in the mood to give an example, as it is not significantly important and I am still able to easily verify the contents. Another thing concerns the release date of the Magnavox Odyssey. Some sources claim that it was released in August 1972, but others insist that the month was actually September. According to Polygon, "We don’t know exactly when Odyssey launched, except that it was in the second half of 1972." Here on the Wikipedia article, we have two contradictory claims where one says that the month was August and the other September. What the sources unanimously say is that the world's first console was released in the second half of 1972. For that, it may be a good idea to remove the risk of being inaccurate by making the date less precise, right? Anyway, given that you (and others) readily address shortcomings as I spot them, I will probably pass this article later today or tomorrow. GaɱingFørFuɲ365 00:31, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
I have decided to promote the article to GA. It has been thoroughly checked since I have started the review, and I believe it covers all the important points and events of the first generation of video game consoles. However, I would like to note that I had to remove one following unsourced claim in order to pass the article:

The first generation handheld electronic game market existed from 1977 to around 1981.
Readers already have an idea when and how long the generation of handheld systems had lasted, so I do not feel that it is terribly important. However, I do think that it helps to be more precise on describing that market's generation and not overgeneralize the facts, so you can add it back in once you find a source that confirms the claim. Well done, Crimsonfox and Indrian!  Approved GaɱingFørFuɲ365 01:55, 29 November 2019 (UTC)