# Talk:Frelinghuysen University

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The body of the article states that the closing year is unknown, though 1964 is an upper bound. A few other places in the article make more definitive statements. My instinct is to reduce the certainty in the lead/infobox and remove the category. Is there a better move? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:29, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Two sources place the closing at Cooper's death in 1964. Others say it closed in the late 1950s with no real qualification. Another days it declined into oblivion in the 40s. The source saying 1964 seems the most concrete, and the most logical because the classes were being taught in Cooper's home at the time. That said, I have no objections to reducing the certainty in the infobox and lead. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:38, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Chateauvert, Melinda (1990). "The Third Step: Anna Julia Cooper and Black Education in the District of Columbia, 1910-1960". In Hine, Darlene Clark (ed.). Black Women in American History: The Twentieth Century. Brooklyn, NY: Carlson Publishing Inc. pp. 261–276. ISBN 978-0-926019-15-7. Chapter is focused on Cooper. Content on Frelinghuysen starts at 246. Free to borrow with an OpenLibrary account. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 05:03, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Good stuff in there. Got the motto, that the school accepted white students but was designed for African American students, university was floundering after Lawson's death, downtown offices vacated, context on the loss of accreditation, final accreditation appeal in 1943, failed due to lack of endowment which ties in with the financial difficulties and the poor African American alumni, only 20% of Black colleges accredited after the rules were in place, a bunch more information on academic support, description of typical students, more information on law graduates, typically male students as women would likely be doing family work in the evenings, more context on decline, not just accreditation but shifting interests away from community service education, ceased operations in 1960 (yet another number).
Thanks for creating a huge pile of additional writing before I start looking into GAN. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:51, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
sorry! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:57, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
I think I'm going to need an efn covering all of the myriad closing dates. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:03, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Oh, also the pages in your citation are correct, 261-276. Page 246 is some no-nonsense women in a sweet ride. I can almost hear them saying "Shut up and get in, we're fighting for civil rights." ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:52, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
oops Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:57, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
That's integrated into the article now. I think I did the sfn stuff correctly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)