# Talk:Deolinda Rodrigues

Coming from a Portuguese speaking background, I find it unlikely that her name real name was Rodriguez instead of Rodrigues. Every single reference in Angola uses Rodrigues (e.g. Deolinda Rodrigues avenue).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.166.74.246 (talk) 18:45, 8 March 2016 (UTC) 

The name Rodríguez appears in the Library of Congress and other publications. Rodrigues is given as an alternative. What else can we do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
I checked VIAF as well. Both given. As a perpetual misspelling myself, it is more important that one is able to tie the documentation to her life than to assume that we ever have the "100% correct" translation. All we *can* do is list alternative spellings. Even if the page was transferred to a surname spelling of Rodrigues there would need to be a redirect for Rodriguez. SusunW (talk) 19:22, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
It is just plain wrong. It is just like naming the article about John Kennedy using the alternative form of "Jon Kenady" just because the Library of Congress of Vanuatu has it that way. The correct spelling of her surname was Rodrigues. If you need propoer sources, check the following:
· Official website of MPLA (and OMA): http://www.mpla.ao/oma.25/deolinda-rodrigues.29.html.
· A telegram from Amilcar Cabral demanding her release from prison in Zaire: http://www.casacomum.org/cc/visualizador?pasta=07073.131.115
37.28.198.78 (talk) 12:26, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Just institute a request to move for the name change. I don't think anyone will oppose the suggestion as long as there is a redirect to Rodriguez. SusunW (talk) 15:12, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Agree, but please do leave a redirect. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:25, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

"Due to her support of the growing Angolan Independence movement, she was captured, tortured, and executed." Can that be supported by any sources? According to the text of teh article she was killed by a competing guerilla movement which also fought for Angolan Independence (FNLA). So it looks like a simple, sad case of factional infighting. Kipala (talk) 01:12, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Kipala, sounds good. Go for it! --Rosiestep (talk) 06:22, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

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Hi all! I will be working on improving this article as part of the Women in Green Good Article Edit-a-thon in the upcoming days and weeks. Based on a preliminary look at this article, here are some major things I would like to accomplish:

Verify all of the sources used. Ideally, I would like to either (a) find evidence for the claim elsewhere in the source or (b) find evidence for the claim in another source. However, if I can do neither, I will (c) delete the unsourced claims.
Possibly change out some sources for more reliable ones, if I can find them. If not, most of the info seems fine contextually, so I’ll leave it be.
Expand on her activity during her life (and anything else that appears relevant based on research).
Copyedit, as necessary.
I'll be working in my sandbox primarily, and transferring edits as appropriate. If you have any questions, suggestions, or objections, please let me know! I am a new editor, so I might make mistakes. Thanks!
Spookyaki (talk) 22:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

One important edit that I would like some feedback on. The original article said that Rodrigues was "tortured and dismembered alive." This is supported by an online article by Oswaldo Faustino, "A história da militante angolana Deolinda Rodrigues." If true, this would be a pretty substantial claim. However, no other source out of dozens I've read (including many that I would consider more reliable than Faustino) corroborates the claim, though none contradict it either. Most implicitly indicate that, in the same way that we do not know precisely when Rodrigues died, we do not know precisely how she died either (though none say it as explicitly as that). I moved the claim about torture to a footnote, saying that "Faustino says that she was tortured and dismembered alive," but I'm curious whether people agree or disagree with this move. Spookyaki (talk) 23:56, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your work so far, Spookyaki. I've put some comments below. Let me know if you have any questions. From what I've seen, the article is about ready to be nominated; almost invariably a GA reviewer will identify improvements that can be made and this isn't a substitute for a full review. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

As you mention above, if you can't find reliable sources for claims, they should be deleted. (per WP:V)
I know nothing about the subject, but the book sources look to be high quality.
Given the balance of sources, moving the claims by Faustino to the footnot seems reasonable to me. It would be good to add sources at the end of footnotes b and c (like the one at a)
Cartas de Langidila e outros documentos citation is incomplete (e.g. lacking publisher)
I suggest adding publisher for The World Factbook
I think deardeolinda.com is probably a suitable source, but you might get questioned about it.
Not a requirement for GA, but I'd suggest being consisten in mentioning the language of sources if not English, and adding in the trans-title parameter.
Not a requirement for GA, but Rodríguez, Limbania Jiménez (2010) is listed in the Bibliography despite not being cited.
Not a requirement for GA, but the Bibliography should be sorted either alphabetically, or by date. (The Martins book is not in its alphabetical position)
I haven't done any spot checks to sources as part of this brief review.
Death and legacy

Can the publiction year for Diário de um Exilio sem Regresso be added?
I suggest varying the starts of the paras that currently begin "In 2010"/"In 2011"
Lead

I haven't checked the source: is "Mother of the Revolution" really an honorary title" or just what she was known as? Might be worth including in the article body as well as in the lead.
You could add a wikilink to MPLA
Lead seems a bit lacking in coverage of the Work with the MPLA and Death and legacy sections.