# Talk:Dianna Agron

Dianna Elise Agron ( AY-gron; born April 30, 1986) is an American actress and singer. Her work spans screen and stage, and her accolades include a Screen Actors Guild Award, with nominations for two Grammy Awards and a Brit Award.
Born in Savannah, Georgia, Agron began acting in small theater productions in her youth, before making her screen debut in 2006. After garnering early attention with recurring television roles, she had her breakthrough with her starring role as Quinn Fabray in the Fox musical comedy drama series Glee (2009–2015). Following this success, she shifted her focus to film, first portraying Sarah Hart in the superhero adaptation I Am Number Four (2011), before taking on films aimed at more diverse audiences The Family (2013), the dramas Bare (2015), and Novitiate, and the comedy Shiva Baby (2020). Hollow in the Land (both 2017). She acted in and directed part of the anthology film Berlin, I Love You (2019), and returned to television as the lead in the Netflix fantasy drama series The Chosen One (2023).
Offscreen, Agron has also achieved success in the music industry, beginning with her work for the several soundtracks of Glee, and continuing to her Café Carlyle residency. She is also recognised for her advocacy, particularly in support of LGBTQ+ and human rights, gender equality, as well as for the Jewish community and against antisemitism. Labeled a sex symbol and fashion icon, Agron's old Hollywood fashion style and appearance has garnered widespread media attention. Samuelloveslennonstella (talk) 14:40, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

Flat no and a request for you to cease and desist from these attempts at this and other articles. I’ll walk you through some of the reasons why your proposed version falls very clearly into “don’t make unnecessary changes if they’re not an improvement, and especially not if they make the article worse” (which I’m sure you’ll agree is more important for the lead, the first thing a reader sees). First, please remember that this article is a Good Article and had quite a long review to get it: there shouldn’t be anything that needs changing, realistically, except where new information is available. Not just because you’ve decided you want to edit this article without having anything to add. Second, please remember that an article’s lead is to summarise the article content, not to add your opinion or jazz up things with undue weight (which it seems is your intention based on the differences). Now, specifics:
Making the first two paragraphs very different lengths and non-cohesive; not including any major works in the opening paragraph; turning the second paragraph into a simple list; the nonsensical punctuation and having Hollow in the Land (both 2017). as a random non-sentence at the end; and adding that Agron has two Grammy nominations when this is not accurate and certainly not in the article, means that these two paragraphs are significantly worse than the current. Not only unnecessary to edit, but far from an improvement.
As for the third paragraph you propose, since it’s had even more changed and isn’t just a list, the poor level of English (instances of the/a where they shouldn’t be, incorrect form of words, and similar technical issues) is much clearer. Even ignoring that, there are some added statements which are flatly untrue: Agron has not advocated for the Jewish community and against antisemitism, she has (as the current, correct, lead says) spoken about her Jewish identity connected to her roles; while she may have been called a sex symbol by some, there are not sources about this being a significant part of her public identity and it is not mentioned in the article. The statement about success in the music industry both generally (the idea of music career success) and specifically (the music industry as a business career) is also dubious at best: AFAIK Agron hasn’t released even a single under her own name, so there would need to be strong sources for the assertion that she specifically has achieved this (and it would need to be added to the article). Glee success can’t be attributed so wholly for Agron, and live cabaret shows are a different beast. The tone is also more editorial, which is inappropriate for Wikipedia even if you can get away with more in leads.
But seriously, you have been told to not make these kinds of edits at other articles, repeatedly, and have also been told at this article that your edits only make things worse. It shouldn’t take detailed explanations for you to identify differences and learn yourself by this point. I encourage you to edit at articles where you have simple new information to add. Kingsif (talk) 17:22, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
Seriously, it’s been four years at least of messages at your talkpage that are all about your poor edits to BLP leads, and you have the gall to suggest this is “better worded”? If you haven’t learnt about only including factual accuracies, let alone how a lead should reflect its article, by now, I strongly advise you to simply not edit leads. You could also try your native language version of Wikipedia. Kingsif (talk) 17:26, 23 August 2025 (UTC)