# Talk:Everybody Wants to Rule the World

This line was irrelevant and unless supported by hard facts that show that the two songs have a link, should remain off this page. I personally feel that the songs sound nothing alike, but I understand that my opinion alone is not enough to warrant the removal of this statement. Therefore, unless hard evidence is presented to support the claim that this song and the Fireman Sam theme tune are linked somehow, then it should remain removed. 20:41, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Eponymous one
Thought this was the original version of the Fireman Sam theme for about 30 years, so (at least from a anecdotal perspective) probably some similarity...

They're completely dissimilar.  And anecdotal evidence has no place in an encyclopaedia. 2.31.164.76 (talk) 17:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I found another cover of this song on iTunes by a (techno?) group called Chosen Few.  I didn't add it to the main page because I'd never heard of them, but if anyone knows who they are, feel free to add it...iTunes link Adam 21:40, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Please note : There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs/coverversions with the purpose of trying to establish a standard rule for merge/separate different versions of the same song. Please make known your views on the matter. --Richhoncho (talk) 21:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. I don't see any advantage to merging such articles. In this case it's not the same name. A 'See also' section and/or a hatnote seems the most appropriate way to handle it. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
So one letter change in the title of the song is a significant difference, enough to warrant TWO articles, even though the two articles are related in every other way? --Richhoncho (talk) 08:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey. This article states that "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" is the MAIN theme song for World in Conflict. This is incorrect; Everybody Wants To Rule The World is played as part of the credits music and was used in some trailers (as stated), but is by no means the main theme. I would correct this myself, but unfortunately I don't know where I'd be able to find a citation of this. Youtube isn't really accurate, but for partial proof of my claims I suppose I link to this: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSyeeWUhBFY&feature=PlayList&p=28D817CE550F9FE9&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1" "World In Conflict" (the song name) from the World in Conflict sound track. It's the actual main theme.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.208.18.110 (talk) 12:03, 29 May 2010 (UTC) 

I'm changing the phrasing of "Red China" to the more neutral "People's Republic of China." 71.192.90.255 (talk) 01:35, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I reverted this edit, which deleted most of the cover versions listed in this article, apparently on the basis of whether or not a reference was provided directly in this article. Among the versions deleted was Patti Smith's from her album 'Twelve, which was wikilinked and itself includes various external references, including, e.g., this Allmusic album review that discusses the cover version. I therefore mistrust this edit in toto and consider it a damaging slash-&-burn exercise. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 02:37, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

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At one point in the article it says this: 
Pitchfork stated that its lyrics can be applied in different scenarios such as.....the Cold War ("Holding hands while the walls come tumbling down").[1] The group revisited the song and its message in an interview with Yahoo! Music, stating that the song's themes were "just as poignant" as they were when they first wrote it. They mentioned that they discussed the Cold War with "Everybody Wants to Rule the World"....
So basically you have one source interpreting the song that way.....and the band saying the song has some aspects of it that discuss the Cold War, but no band member specifically saying that line "Holding hands while the walls come tumbling down" is about the Cold War. 
I make that point because I doubt that line is about the Cold War. Nobody in 1985 thought the Berlin Wall was coming down anytime soon. (Assuming that is what it is in reference to.) Is there a reference that clarifies what that line was about?Rja13ww33 (talk) 18:17, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Well it's all qualified by the introductory "Pitchfork stated.. " which I have now changed to "In 2017 Tal Rosenberg of Pitchfork stated.. " But yes, this came out in 1985 and the wall did nor fall for another 4 years. So I agree, Rosenberg's analysis is anachronistic and there must be some other meaning behind it. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I just want to note that the actual key of this song is a little higher than D, about ⅓ of a semitone. Currently the article mentions the key once, under “Composition”. This may be too small a point for an encyclopedia entry, but I needed to say it. MJ (t • c) 14:34, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

True. Curt once spoke briefly about it on Twitter, although he himself doesn't quite remember why the song was sped up. Jules TH 16 (talk) 14:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

When was the song actually released? I am seeing conflicting dates of the 15th, 18th, and 22nd. Is anyone able to fully confirm any one of them? James G Thorn (talk) 02:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@RV e BC you were the one who changed the date to the 18th. What was the reasoning behind this? James G Thorn (talk) 02:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)