# Talk:Intermission (Hopper)

I haven't yet discussed Hopper as part of the Ashcan School because there's some disagreement about that category.  My understanding is that both Hopper himself and several major critics didn't believe he was a member of that school, but he certainly arose out of it in terms of being a part of the same time and place with his fellow students, teachers, and colleagues.  It seems that many popular sources lump Hopper into it that description without any nuance.  I will try to figure out a way to deal with this. Viriditas (talk) 00:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Our bio page on him, as well as our page on the Ashcan School, both say pretty clearly that Hopper himself objected to the term. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
I know, but a lot of sources still group him in the school.  I wanted to start this discussion as a placeholder.  I would still like to mention how he came out of that milieu in the background section, yet differentiated himself from his fellow colleagues. If you want to give it a shot, feel free, otherwise I will try something shortly. Viriditas (talk) 08:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Is it an intermission at a film or a play? It's not entirely clear, and some of the sources say one or the other.  This needs to be explained. Viriditas (talk) 22:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

There's a reference in the current Development text to Flexner and "a chain of theaters", which might imply film. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, it's just that there's a disconnect between some of the older or newer sources on this point.  Still haven't tried to work it out just yet. Viriditas (talk) 08:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Alternatively, one can say something like "According to x, it is a movie theater, whereas according to y, it is at a play." --Tryptofish (talk) 20:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Intermission (Hopper)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Viriditas (talk · contribs) 22:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: APK (talk · contribs) 04:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct: 
It is a late period painting completed between March and April at his New York home and studio in Washington Square Park, in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of Lower Manhattan, New York City, four years before his death at age 84. - I think you can remove the first mention of New York since it's given later in the sentence. Lower Manhattan can be wikilinked. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
lifelong fan of the theater and the cinema - Remove "the" before "cinema" and add a comma after art teacher and Along with his wife. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 20:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Hopper's wife, Josephine, - She is identified as his wife in the background section, so you can just say Josephine in the development and interpretation sections. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 00:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
ébauche should be italicized. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 20:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Kranzfelder believes Hopper uses this idea - used instead of uses APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
châtelain should be italicized. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 20:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
both the Truro and Washington Square properties - What is Truro? APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 20:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
along with images of four Hopper paintings, - Colon after paintings instead of a comma. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
The Guardian - Add wikilink. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
tableau vivant should be italicized. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation: 
No issues. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline: 
No issues. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose): 
Please archive web references. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Not done. IABot isn't working (Three-day queue, 504 Gateway Time-out) and Internet Archive, although it's back up, still has issues.  I will get back to this request. Viriditas (talk) 20:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm going to try doing it manually and see how it goes. Viriditas (talk) 21:58, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
I did it manually. Viriditas (talk) 22:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
All quotes have inline citations. APK hi :-) (talk) 06:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Ref #3 doesn't include the author's first name, Zuzanna. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Done. Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Spot check...
Ref #2 Y
Ref #5 Y
Ref #8 - AGF Y
Ref #10 Y
Ref #12 Y
Ref #18 Y
Ref #21, Y
C. It contains no original research: 
No issues. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism: 
No issues. Earwig shows the only similarities are quotes. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic: 
Maybe add the measurement details in the description section. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:36, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
It's currently in the development section ("At 40 by 60 inches [100 cm × 150 cm], Intermission is one of Hopper's largest paintings.") Do you want it moved to the description section instead? Viriditas (talk) 21:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Oh, duh. The way you have it works. APK hi :-) (talk) 03:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style): 
No issues. Focused and gives pertinent information. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:36, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each: 
No issues. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:36, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute: 
No issues. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content: 
No issues. The fair-use image has proper licensing as do the public domain images. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions: 
No issues. Relevant with proper captions. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Overall:
Pass or Fail: 
I only see minor things to address. Should be an easy fix. Thanks for working on this informative article. APK hi :-) (talk) 06:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Looks good! Passing. APK hi :-) (talk) 03:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC)