# Talk:El Satánico

I put this article together as it was one requested at Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Sports#Wrestling however it obviously needs a lot of work to the main section.  I have only been able to find biographies in Spanish, so if anyone has the time, skill and inclination to translate this [1] that would be much appreciated Apsouthern (talk) 09:03, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

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This review is transcluded from Talk:El Satánico/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 14:30, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful. 
If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)
I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy. 
Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 
Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.


### Immediate Failures
It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
It contains copyright infringements -
It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -


### Links
### Prose
#### Lede
Mexican luchador (professional wrestler) - WP:SEAOFBLUE... Do we need to link Mexican? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
trainer best known - some sort of punctuation s missing here. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
worked - quite an insider term, perhaps "performed" Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
rudo (known as a "heel" in English, the antagonists in professional wrestling). - can't we just link to heel, and explain? I don't think we need to mention an alternative name in the lede. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
playing the part of almost every wrestler - not sure what this means in terms of training. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Why are some ring names bolded in the infobox? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


#### General
It's been bugging me for a while, but why don't we have any prose at all to introduce Luchas de Apuestas? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:39, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Some of the paras are really quite large, is there a suitable split? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:39, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Some pipes to redirects such as Máscara Mágica and Los Guerreros del Infierno Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:39, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Watch out for "Champion" as in "CMLL World Middleweight Champion" - the championship is the CMLL World Middleweight, so CMLL World Middleweight Champion is not a proper noun. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:39, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
MS-1 (wrestler) - remove the disambig! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:39, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


### GA Review
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 


### Review meta comments
I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)
Not much here, but the comments are above. I'll place on hold. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:39, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Lee Vilenski I think I have addressed all concerns? MPJ-DK (talk) 14:46, 7 October 2020 (UTC)