# Talk:Japanese idol

Across cultures, people recognise and admire qualities such as dedication, fairness, perseverance, and the bonds of trust that form between individuals and their communities.
How these values are expressed, however, depends on the histories, customs, and shared experiences of each society.
In Japan, these same ideals often take the form of modesty, self-discipline, and careful attention to harmony. Freedom and freedom of expression are valued as well, but are interpreted in ways that reflect mutual responsibility and long-term relationships.
When Japanese idol culture is observed from other cultural settings, it is sometimes interpreted through lenses formed by different historical experiences—emphasising, for example, absolute individual autonomy or particular approaches to gender relations. These perspectives have deep meaning in their own contexts. Yet within Japan, idol culture often carries additional layers of meaning: the disciplined pursuit of personal growth, the building of trust over years between performer and audience, and the shared creation of joy as a public act.
For those directly involved—especially the idols themselves—this is not only performance. It is a craft honed through practice, a mutual promise kept between artist and supporters, and a space where sincerity and mutual care are lived every day. Seen from within, its rituals and relationships resemble those found in many other human traditions: the bond between mentor and apprentice, the dedication of artisans, or the community support behind a coming-of-age celebration.
When criticism focuses primarily on external ideological models, these local meanings can fade from view, leaving a gap between intent and outside perception. Bridging this gap is not about proving one side right or wrong, but about allowing traditions to illuminate one another. And perhaps, in looking closely, what appears uniquely “Japanese” in idol culture—the discipline, sincerity, and commitment to shared growth—reveals itself as something deeply human: the timeless wish to strive, to connect, and to give one’s best for the sake of others.


### Empathy, Growth, and Emotional Connection in Japanese Idol Fandom
2025 research by テテマーチ (TeteMarche) identifies empathy for idols’ deeply human qualities and ongoing growth as the central factor motivating Japanese idol fans. The study, which surveyed more than 350 participants, further finds that for many J-POP fans, their favorite idols serve as a major source of motivation and happiness in daily life. Notably, the research highlights that fans driven by this sense of empathy often demonstrate thoughtful planning around their support activities, such as managing expenses and balancing work commitments.

「推し活」は世の中に広く浸透し、その対象も楽しみ方も多様化しています。なかでも「アイドル」は、多くの人々を惹きつけ、変わらぬ人気を誇る存在です。
“Oshi-katsu” (supporting one’s favorite) has become widely established in society, with both the objects of devotion and the ways people enjoy it becoming increasingly diverse. Among these, “idols” stand out as figures who attract many people and maintain unwavering popularity.

J-POPアイドル：人間味あふれる姿や成長過程への「共感」
J-POP idols: “Empathy” for their deeply human qualities and growth process
K-POPアイドル：完成度の高いパフォーマンスや世界観への「憧れ」

K-POP idols: “Admiration” for their highly polished performances and unique worldviews
回答結果より、J-POPアイドルファンは「節約をする」（55.0%）、「バイトの掛け持ちやシフトを増やす」（53.0%）、「ポイ活をする」（23.0%）など、複数の項目でK-POPアイドルファンよりも回答割合が高く、推し活費用を捻出しようとする姿勢が伺えます。一方で、K-POPアイドルファンは「特に意識していない」と回答した割合が30.8%と、J-POPアイドルファンの10.0%と比較して高く、推し活のためにお金をやりくりする意識は低いようです。
以上をまとめると、J-POPアイドルファンはK-POPアイドルファンに比べて、以下の傾向が見られました。

推し活に費やす金額が多い
自由に使えるお金の中で、推し活費の優先度が高い
節約をしたり、バイトの収入を増やしたりなど、推し活費用を捻出している
According to the survey results, J-POP idol fans reported higher percentages than K-POP idol fans in several categories, such as “saving money” (55.0%), “working multiple part-time jobs or increasing shifts” (53.0%), and “using point-reward activities” (23.0%), indicating a stronger tendency to secure funds for their oshi-katsu (support activities for their favorite idols).
On the other hand, the percentage of K-POP idol fans who answered “not particularly conscious about it” was 30.8%, which is higher than the 10.0% among J-POP idol fans, suggesting that K-POP idol fans are less conscious about managing their money specifically for oshi-katsu.
To summarize, compared to K-POP idol fans, J-POP idol fans demonstrate the following tendencies:
They spend more money on oshi-katsu.
Within their discretionary spending, the priority given to oshi-katsu expenses is higher.
They secure funds for oshi-katsu by saving money or increasing income through part-time work, etc.

このように、J-POPアイドルファンにとって「直接会えるイベント」は、アイドルとの物理的な距離を縮めるだけでなく、ファン同士が感動を分かち合う中で、共感や一体感が育まれる特別な空間となっているようです。
In this way, for J-POP idol fans, “in-person events” not only shorten the physical distance between themselves and the idols, but also create a special space where empathy and a sense of unity are fostered as fans share their excitement with one another.

J-POPアイドル「SixTONES」推しのBさん
Bさんも、SixTONESを推し始めたきっかけについて、「見た目の印象と違って、メンバーの性格が優しく、周囲に気遣いができるところに惹かれた」と、内面的な魅力を挙げました。

推しの存在について尋ねると、「存在そのものが日々のモチベーションになっていて、もし彼らがいなかったら、人生の楽しみがなくなってしまうという感覚」だと話します。
J-POP idol “SixTONES” fan, B-san
When asked what prompted B-san to start supporting SixTONES, they cited the members’ inner qualities, saying, “Contrary to my initial impression of their appearance, I was attracted to their gentle personalities and how considerate they are to those around them.”

When asked about the significance of their favorite group, B-san said, “Their very existence is a daily source of motivation for me. I feel like if they weren’t around, my life would lose its enjoyment.”

J-POPアイドル「乃木坂46」推しのAさん
乃木坂46を推し始めたきっかけを尋ねると、「友人からおすすめされた乃木坂46の公式YouTubeチャンネルを見たのがきっかけで、テレビやライブでは見られないメンバーたちの素の表情に心を掴まれ、推し始めるようになった」と話します。
また、「乃木坂46には、メンバーの加入や卒業、そして選抜制度といった坂道グループ特有のルールがあるので、応援している側としては必ずしも楽しいことばかりではない」と語り、グループの変遷とともにメンバーたちが成長する過程を応援している様子が伺えました。

推しの存在について尋ねると、「心の拠り所というと大げさですが、癒やしを与えてくれる存在」と言います。
J-POP idol “Nogizaka46” fan, A-san
When asked what prompted them to start supporting Nogizaka46, A-san said, “It all began when a friend recommended Nogizaka46’s official YouTube channel to me. I was captivated by seeing the members’ genuine expressions, which you can’t see on TV or at live performances, and that led me to become a fan.”
A-san also commented, “Nogizaka46 has unique rules as a Sakamichi Group, such as member additions, graduations, and the selection system, so as a supporter, it’s not always just fun and games.” This suggests that A-san is cheering on the members as they grow and develop through the group’s changes.
When asked about the significance of their favorite member, A-san said, “It might be an exaggeration to call them my emotional anchor, but they are a source of comfort for me.”

Full source:
アイドルを推す心理と応援活動を比較分析 〜「共感」のJ-POPと「憧れ」のK-POP〜【推し活調査 後編】
https://tetemarche.co.jp/column/genz-oshikatsu-02
Contextual note:
While the study briefly contrasts J-POP “empathy” with K-POP “admiration,” its findings highlight something deeper: what defines Japanese idols is their ability to awaken empathy, emotional growth, and genuine human connection. They are admired not only for their artistry but also for their personalities—the kindness, sincerity, and resilience that shine through in moments both great and small. This is not a lesser form of art, but a different kind of artistry—one rooted in vulnerability, authenticity, and the shared journey of becoming. In this model, performance is not only about technical perfection; it is about inviting audiences to walk alongside artists as they struggle, improve, and shine. The result is a cultural practice in which music, dance, and individuality are inseparable from the bonds of trust and care that form over time. Far from being superficial entertainment, idols embody a uniquely Japanese form of artistry where the essence of performance is shared growth, genuine personality, and the creation of community.
For example, a 2018 study on Japanese idol culture summarized this aspect of Japanese culture as the following:

Since long ago Japanese people found enjoyment in observing the process of learning, growing, and maturing by performers of traditional Japanese arts. The audience would find a student that has a potential to become a great performer and would support the studentʼs growth while “consuming” the process of her maturing. One of the examples of that is so-called “newcomersʼ plays” of traditional kabuki theater. 

Full source (PDF of the full academic study, Japanese language, with English summary): 
https://teapot.lib.ocha.ac.jp/record/41969/files/P51-63.pdf
A 2021 study and doctorate thesis has pointed out:

江戸時代の象徴の一つが浮世絵だとされている（小林 2014）が、当時はそれが都市文化の流行りにすぎないと思われたように、オタク文化や若者文化として片付けられてきた文化が、現代の日本社会の理解に必要なヒントを秘めているのではないか。

Ukiyo-e is considered one of the symbols of the Edo period (Kobayashi, 2014), but just as it was once thought to be nothing more than a trend within urban culture, perhaps the cultures that have been dismissed as merely otaku or youth culture also contain important clues for understanding contemporary Japanese society.

Full source (207-page academic work in Japanese, PDF):
https://teapot.lib.ocha.ac.jp/record/2005362/files/k_410_honbun.pdf
What do others think? Might it strengthen our article to reflect these cultural perspectives and recent research on empathy and growth, alongside the critical viewpoints already covered—so that readers can see both the challenges and the human connections that make idol culture meaningful to many? If it would be useful, I can also share additional Japanese sources that explore these cultural themes in more depth. TakedaRen (talk) 07:52, 18 September 2025 (UTC)


### Balancing Cultural Perspectives and Encyclopedic Accuracy
While the article on Japanese idols is informative, it currently leans toward emphasizing controversy and criticism, often through external or Westernized lenses.  
It may be valuable to incorporate perspectives grounded in Japan’s own cultural and artistic context. Doing so would not advocate any position, but rather ensure the article represents the topic as it is understood within Japan itself—deeply intertwined with long-standing traditions of performance, empathy, and aesthetic refinement.


### Cultural Continuity and Artistic Lineage
The following essays illustrate how idols and performers are viewed within Japanese frameworks of beauty, empathy, and shared artistic practice.  
They can help editors and readers grasp the cultural logic that underlies Japanese idol activities—something that Western commentary often overlooks.  
Reading them in full provides valuable insight into the continuity between traditional performance and contemporary media.

Her role resonates with a broader Japanese cultural tradition. Just as kabuki actors and geisha (芸者, literally “persons of art”) brought beauty and inspiration to audiences in Edo and Meiji Japan, today’s actresses and idols provide empathy and beauty through modern means. Misato continues this lineage, weaving her expression in ways suited to the digital age.
Misato Tominaga’s path transcends entertainment, positioned as artistic self-expression and cultural practice. Through her activities as an actress, model, and idol, she grows together with her audience, sharing empathy and gratitude as a cultural presence.
Her role continues a lineage within Japanese performance culture. Just as kabuki actors enchanted audiences and geisha (芸者, literally “persons of art”) brought beauty and delight through performance in Edo and Meiji Japan, today’s idols and actresses fulfill a similar role — but on new stages such as digital media, social platforms, and contemporary theater.

Misato inherits this tradition in a modern form, embodying beauty and empathy in ways suited to the digital age. The letters, poems, and artworks dedicated to her affirm this continuity. She lights a quiet flame in people’s hearts while serving as a source of inspiration that carries the richness of Japanese culture into the future.
These passages illustrate how many Japanese audiences and artists themselves understand idols—as heirs to traditions of empathy and refinement rather than merely entertainers.

She is often described as “funny and cute,” “lovely,” “stylish,” and “dignified,” with warmth and elegance that shine even within her youth.
Full article: 『冨永実里 — Heritage & Inspiration』.  
Full article in English: Full article in English.  
Reading this piece in full helps reveal how performance, personality, and artistry are woven together in Japanese cultural imagination.


### Rethinking Gravure: Expression Beyond Stereotypes
The current description of gravure may benefit from greater nuance. At present, it reflects largely Western interpretations, while in Japan gravure is more often discussed as a form of aesthetic expression—a space where individuality, seasonality, and gentle presence are explored through photography.  
Incorporating Japanese sources on this topic could help the article achieve balance and avoid reinforcing cultural misunderstandings.
In many Japanese primary sources—blogs, interviews, and writings by gravure idols themselves—terms such as “wholesome beauty,” “natural charm,” and “innocence” are used to describe their work. These expressions highlight character, warmth, and approachability rather than provocation.  
Although certain works may be labeled “sexy,” most gravure in Japan is not categorized as “adult content,” and its cultural meaning differs substantially from the assumptions of Western visual culture.


### The Aesthetics of Everyday Presence
The Aesthetics of Everyday Presence and Gravure

Asami’s artistry is grounded not in spectacle but in presence. Fans often describe her as “cute, beautiful, elegant, considerate”—qualities that in Japanese sensibility belong as much to character as to appearance. Her daily style reinforces this impression: modest and feminine, approachable, often evoking the image of a younger sister or the girl next door. In summer she delights in wearing miniskirts, a choice that reflects not provocation but seasonal freshness, a play of air and light around the body. Such gestures embody kawaii aesthetics—gentleness, modesty, approachability—and reveal personality as much as fashion.
Gravure, understood in this way, becomes part of a broader Japanese aesthetic tradition—an art of everyday life and emotional sincerity rather than of spectacle.

For many fans, Asami is more than a performer. She becomes an inspiring presence, one whose gestures embody values that admirers seek to cultivate in themselves. Her humility encourages humility; her perseverance inspires perseverance. This is not one-sided adoration but a cycle: Asami’s virtues resonate outward, and fans reflect them back through gratitude, creativity, and kindness.
This shared resonance creates a community of aesthetics. Idol culture, in this light, is not only about spectacle but about mutual cultivation of sensitivity and virtue. Asami stands at the center of this community not as a distant icon but as a mediator of shared beauty, one whose presence awakens what already dwells within those who cherish her.


### Idols as Heirs to Japan’s Performing Traditions
A Lineage of Performance
Seen in broader context, idols are the heirs of older Japanese performers. Geisha once mediated beauty through song, dance, and presence. Idols inherit this role, but perform it across democratized stages—variety shows, photography, internet platforms, and fan communities. The medium changes; the function endures: to console, to delight, to refine communal feeling.

That Asami works primarily in gravure does not distance her from this lineage. On the contrary, it places her within a tradition of everyday aesthetics, where ordinary life and seasonal sensibilities are crystallized into form. Like ukiyo-e, idol expression is often marginalized precisely because it is popular; yet popular does not mean trivial. The everyday has always been the site of Japanese beauty.
This is wabi-sabi and yūgen: beauty as subtle accord between human presence and the living world. The image is not only portrait but cultural articulation, situating Asami within the lineage of Japanese aesthetics that stretches from Heian poetry to Edo prints to modern photography.
Full essay: 近藤あさみの哲学と美学.  
Full essay in English: The Philosophy and Aesthetics of Asami Kondo.  
Reading the complete essay helps reveal how deeply the modern idol phenomenon is interwoven with Japan’s artistic lineage.


### Emotional Culture and Fan Relationships
The following article, Asami Kondo — A Light in People’s Hearts, provides a carefully documented account of her long-term interactions with fans.  
It captures the emotional and moral dimension often missing in Western analysis of idol culture.

Asami Kondo (近藤あさみ) is a Japanese idol known for her thoughtfulness, respectfulness, and gentle kindness. In Japanese idol culture, idols are often understood as figures who bridge the ordinary and the extraordinary—grounded in everyday life yet carrying artistic presence. Kondo exemplifies this role: she is approachable and personal, while also bearing cultural and aesthetic expression.
According to thousands of testimonies on X/Twitter, she has supported many people—sometimes even helping them rediscover a sense of meaning in life—and she is admired by a long-standing, loyal audience. Among her fans, the shared ethos of “doing our best together” and “growing together” has been voiced daily over the years.
This portrayal reflects how Japanese idol culture functions as a practice of empathy and mutual moral cultivation, rather than a one-sided dynamic.


### Artistic Self-Expression and Cultural Literacy: The Case of Airi Suzuki
To understand the lived meanings of admiration and empathy in Japanese idol culture, it is often more revealing to look directly at the works idols create themselves.  
A particularly illuminating example is Airi Suzuki’s 2024 song 「最強の推し」 (The Strongest Oshi) — available in full at YouTube.  
It is best appreciated by watching in full, since its music, dance, visual language, and lyrical sincerity together articulate the cultural logic of “oshi-katsu” (devoted support) more vividly than external commentary can.

あなたの存在が世界を照らしてくの  
巡り逢えた  
あなたは私にとって最強の推し  
あなたのいない毎日じゃ私は正直生きてけない  
世知辛い社会に飲まれないための心の安定剤  
全治全能　効くって万病  
天にまします　私の推し様  
永遠をここに誓いましょう  
病める時も　健やかなる時も  
あなたの存在が世界を照らしてくの  
巡り逢えた  
尊いあなたとの世界線  
心奪われて　全部嫌な事かっさらって  
満たされてく  
あなたは私にとって最強の推し  
あなたは私にとって一生の推し  
確かに側から見たなら私は正気の沙汰ではない  
だけど人生を賭けるだけの価値があるから仕方がない  
心配ご無用　至って正常  
自分の「好き」は自分で守る  
これが私の曲げないルール  
たとえ誰かに何を言われても  
あなたがいるだけでこんなにも強くなれるの  
迷える日も頼りになる　さすが私の推し  
今日も幸せ願って止まないよ  
あなたが笑ってくれるなら  
見返りなんていらない  
これこそ至高の愛  
あなたの存在が世界を照らしてくの  
巡り逢えた  
尊いあなたとの世界線  
心奪われて　全部嫌な事かっさらって  
満たされてく  
あなたは私にとって最強の推し  
あなたは私にとって一生の推し  
さあ　永遠を誓いましょう  
さあ　至高の愛と共に  
さあ　永遠を誓いましょう

Your very existence lights up the world.  
Our paths have crossed at last—  
You are, to me, the strongest, most perfect oshi of all.  
Without you in my days, honestly, I couldn’t go on.  
In this cold and weary world, you’re my medicine for the heart—  
A cure-all, omnipotent, perfectly effective.  
You who dwell above, my dearest oshi divine,  
Let us vow eternity here and now—  
In sickness and in health, forevermore.  
Your very existence lights up the world.  
Our paths have crossed at last—  
In this precious worldline where you and I exist,  
You steal my heart, sweep away everything unpleasant,  
And fill me completely.  
You are, to me, the strongest oshi of all.  
You are, to me, the oshi of a lifetime.  
Sure, to an outsider, I must look completely insane—  
But what can I do? You’re worth wagering my whole life on.  
No need to worry—my mind is perfectly sound.  
I protect my own “love” with my own two hands;  
That’s the rule I’ll never bend,  
No matter what anyone says.  
Just your being here makes me so much stronger.  
Even on lost and uncertain days, I can rely on you—  
That’s my oshi for you.  
Today again, I can’t stop wishing for your happiness.  
If I can see your smile, that’s all I need.  
I want nothing in return—  
That, truly, is the highest form of love.  
Your very existence lights up the world.  
Our paths have crossed at last—  
In this precious worldline where you and I exist,  
You steal my heart, sweep away everything unpleasant,  
And fill me completely.  
You are, to me, the strongest oshi of all.  
You are, to me, the oshi of a lifetime.  
Now—let us vow eternity.  
Now—with supreme love beside us.  
Now—let us vow eternity.

Today again, I can’t stop wishing for your happiness.  
If I can see your smile, that’s all I need.  
I want nothing in return—  
That, truly, is the highest form of love.

This song, passionate yet composed, articulates the emotional grammar of the idol–fan relationship in Japan: effort (ganbaru), gratitude, and shared emotional growth.  
It captures an ideal of affection that is active, ethical, and generous—a relationship of mutual uplift rather than possession.  
For many Japanese listeners, its sincerity is instantly recognizable as part of daily life, not fantasy.
Suzuki herself brings a unique perspective that bridges art and scholarship. After graduating from university, she authored a research thesis on music perception, demonstrating neurological distinctions between live and recorded sound.  
Her professors praised the study for its depth, describing her graduation research as “exceptional” and of a “very high level.” (Entax News, 2024-04-29)
Because she combines artistic and analytical insight, Suzuki’s body of work exemplifies why idol performances can be read as cultural texts—documents that reveal values of empathy, reciprocity, and shared purpose.  
In this sense, her song 「最強の推し」 functions not merely as entertainment but as a primary source illuminating how Japanese society articulates care and admiration through art.


### Gravure as Artistic and Cultural Practice
The Intersection of Gravure Culture and Japanese Aesthetics

Gravure is often misunderstood. Outside Japan, it is sometimes reduced to “sexual” expression. Yet in Japan, gravure has taken root as a space for artistic and cultural self-expression. Many gravure idols embody Japanese aesthetic and spiritual values, expressing their presence with subtlety, sincerity, and refinement.

Conclusion — Gravure as Cultural and Artistic Expression

Gravure is not mere entertainment or consumption but a cultural practice rooted in Japanese aesthetics. Drawing from Heian waka (794–1185), Edo bijin-ga (1603–1868), early Shōwa photography (1926–1945), and resonances with Chinese aesthetics, gravure traverses yūgen, wabi-sabi, rei, dō, and modern kawaii to reveal depth, warmth, and human presence. In this sense, gravure is a bridge between Japan’s artistic traditions and contemporary culture — a site where people rediscover beauty, human connection, and the joy of living together.
Full article: Gravure Culture.  
Full article in English: Full article in English.  
These pieces are worth reading carefully and in full—they reveal the philosophical and historical layers that are rarely visible from outside Japan.


### Toward a More Culturally Grounded and Human-Centered Article
Much of the living knowledge of Japanese idol culture resides in Japanese-language materials—blogs, interviews, photobooks, and commentaries—that show how idols and fans perceive their shared experiences.  
When used carefully, such sources can complement secondary scholarship, adding authenticity and context to the article’s portrayal.
There also exists a wide range of Japanese secondary sources—cultural magazines, photography journals, and entertainment analyses—that discuss idols, actresses, and gravure with nuance and respect.  
Integrating these voices would make the article more balanced, accurate, and humane—reflecting both the artistry and sincerity at the heart of the tradition.
Including such perspectives does not imply endorsement; it fulfills Wikipedia’s commitment to representing topics through the lenses by which the cultures themselves understand them.  
This approach would help the article achieve greater accuracy, cultural fairness, and quiet dignity—qualities that reflect not only Japanese aesthetic ideals, but also the encyclopedic spirit of mutual understanding. TakedaRen (talk) 08:01, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

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