# Talk:I don't know her

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Reviewer: Your Power (talk · contribs) 14:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section):  b (inline citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism): 
Formatting is ok for GA standards. All the newspapers and music and entertainment magazines used are reliable. Interviews are ok. The journal articles and books come from reliable journals and publishers respectively. Will check the other subcriteria sometime
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

An iconic stan culture staple. more things like this need to be GA! taking for review; ping after a week if I haven't started yet ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍  ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 14:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Comments go here
Lopez and Carey photos used in prose are properly used with appropriate captions. Use of the non-free image (the GIF itself) is valid to properly illustrate the meme
Coverage is good. Quick question, do we have any more sources on Lopez's reaction to the meme (or lack thereof) beyond 2004?
Added a 2016 reference
preparing her debut album Mariah Carey (1990) than with other artists change to "other artists'" with the apostrophe since you're referring to their albums and not themselves
Added
Similar to the discord fomented perhaps simpler language would do ?
Changed to "conflict instigated"
Name the release year for Glitter as you did the other media works
Added
Carey alleges tense inconsistency. ditto with she has a feud and is rude to Lopez
Suggest changing to "Carey alleged", "had a feud", and "had been rude to Lopez"
Added
May I ask about the inclusion of the note re. Ashanti?
Helps contextualize Carey's claim that Lopez doesn't sing her own songs
promoting follow-up currently ambiguous; you should specify that album was Carey's
Reworded
The claim "I don't know her" is one of the world's most popular memes strikes me as a bit WP:EXCEPTIONAL, so perhaps more citations beside it (and maybe an attribution?) would make it more GA-compliant
It says "one of the most", not "the most", so I don't think it is that exceptional. It does come from CNN. With the amount of coverage and adaptations, its popularity is alluded to in other sources but CNN is the best one says it explicitly.
Spotchecked a few sources for any OR or failed citations and I don't see any red flags
Blair source is okay and supports the "an honest response because she does not know Lopez personally" bit
Hill source supports the stuff about Demi Lovato
Hyde source is spot-on
Weber & Finger supports the quotations used
Most of the hits on the copyvio director come from quotations, the use of which in the article is reasonable and not excessive
 On hold at the moment. Delighted to work with you, @Heartfox! Please ping me once you have replied to all my suggestions ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍  ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 04:02, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the review and helpful comments Your Power, Heartfox (talk) 21:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Wonderful! All my comments have been addressed. Passing... ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍  ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 06:58, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Other than the statement, "I don't know her," which could be included in Mariah Carey's article and a few other things that actually happened, this article turns wikipedia into a gossip column. It should be speedily deleted. Wastrel Way (talk) Eric Wastrel Way (talk) 22:47, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

What does the article say that is not a fact? Heartfox (talk) 23:30, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure WP:NOTSCANDAL applies here. Much of the article discusses the phrase's use as an Internet meme and does not focus solely on documenting celebrity drama. A good chunk of the first and third paragraphs of the "Description" section and the entire "Analysis" section talks about "I don't know her" in such a context. ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍  ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 07:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

1. There's a second second called if we that was ripped off together with loverboy.
2. Not only the two songs were ripped off, the concept of sound strategy were too.
3. This maneuver caused Mariah to redo loverboy, redo material, consequently delayed the project, which in turns came to be released on november 11th. 2804:14C:126:809E:6D14:C043:2A89:AA84 (talk) 16:54, 6 January 2024 (UTC)