# Talk:Euphonium

This page says that "The difference is that the bore size of the baritone horn is typically smaller than that of the euphonium, and the baritone has a primarily cylindrical bore, whereas the euphonium has a predominantly conical bore."
In contrast, both the baritone and trombone pages claim that the baritone has a conical bore. Other sites such as https://musicalinstrumentpro.com/euphonium-vs-baritone say it has a cylindrical bore. Can this inconsistency be fixed? 96.231.239.208 (talk) 22:21, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Fixed, as it's also supported by the citation. Good catch! Matuko (talk) 18:04, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
The older text here is more accurate than the new edit; while there are variations on the euphonium/baritone that blur the line, generally, the baritone has a more cylindrical bore - although not fully cylindrical like a trombone, while the euphonium has a more cylindrical bore. The difference can be likened a bit to a cornet (baritone) vs flugelhorn (euphonium), in that while both are cylindrical, one is significantly more cylindrical than the other. See here (https://www.dwerden.com/eu-articles-bareuph.cfm) for a good start, in particular the paragraph just above the table. Euphguy1 (talk) 06:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
I think you meant conical, not cylindrical, in the above paragraph, as if things weren't confusing enough. I think we can rely on Bevan's thorough treatment in The Tuba Family here; the valved bugle family is huge, covers several countries of origin (France, Germany, Italy, Britain), and the 9-foot B♭ category was particularly fecund. I've tried to cut a path here, but I think the Name section is already too long and has morphed into a potted history that ought to be re-summarised and/or merged with the History section. — Jon (talk) 00:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

... that one of the few jazz proponents of the euphonium (pictured) was Rich Matteson (1929–1993)?

ALT1 ... that one of the few jazz proponents of the euphonium (pictured) was 20th century musician Rich Matteson?

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Comment: I know we don't want parens, but it seemed appropriate to include birth and death here to provide context

Jon (talk) 11:06, 17 November 2025 (UTC).

 Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. QPQ is not needed. The hook is interesting and sourced. I'm not sure why the dates of birth and death are needed here? Perhaps you could call him a "20th century jazz musician"? Thriley (talk) 01:45, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
Okay, added ALT1 — Jon (talk) 21:21, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
 ALT1 looks good. All set. Thriley (talk) 20:44, 19 November 2025 (UTC)