# Talk:Future Nostalgia (song)

There seems to be an issue with the release status of this song; either being a single or a promotional single. My reasoning that "Future Nostalgia" is a promotional single is that Lipa has stated this herself, announcing in advance in an interview that the song would not be a single. She reiterated this on her social media after its release, explicitly stating that the song "isn't a single" when providing the reason for the lack of a music video for the song. (I provided the sources for these on the article itself). The song is also not being promoted through her website, as was the case with the album's first single, "Don't Start Now". It is also not being referred to as a single by the record company itself, Warner, with its statements simply stating that it is a "release" or "title track".
The only reasoning that I can see for the song being an official single is that it was serviced to radio, and publications seemingly refer to it as such. However, as per advice on WP:PROMOSINGLE, and the fact that a promotional single is defined as a song that is made available to radio stations [...] to promote a commercial single or album, I think that the idea that a song's airplay / service to radio makes it not a promotional single seems to be untrue.

I would appreciate input from other editors, as well as those involved in the dispute (courtesy ping for; @CountyCountry: and @Mikgregor:), in order to avoid an edit war.  KHBritish (talk) 19:20, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Well, looks like Dua Lipa did confirm that it is not a single. I am changing my mind on this one because I was unaware of her confirming that. I have heard from multiple editors saying that WP:Promotional singles is flawed and inaccurate, so I tend not to use that. CountyCountry (talk) 19:30, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

There seems to be a dispute going about the key that the song is in. If you would like to see the full discussion, you can go to my talk page. I have published that I think the song is in A minor due to a Musicnotes.com source, whose author claims to be Dua Lipa (which is usually the author used in music-related articles). However, Will.hubbard93 claims the song is in D minor from another Musicnotes.com source from an author called "MUSICHELP," as well as just listening to the song. I have also discovered that on key/bpm finder websites, most claim that the key is G major. Lil-unique1, also chipped in and said that Musicnotes.com is not always a reliable source from a discussion on the reliable sources noticeboard. Will.hubbard93 has also got into contact with Musicnotes.com and they have said that publishers might simplify the key. So what do you think? What key do you think it is in based on the evidence proposed? LOVI33 12:48, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Adding to all the helpful info LOVI33 provided above, Musicnotes.com states on their support page that recorded key and published key may be different. Again, as mentioned by LOVI33, I believe this the cause of the confusion here. Will.hubbard93 (talk) 16:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
It appears that this dispute is resolved. Best of all, I don't see a 3rd opinion request listed as of 02:54, 19 June 2020 (UTC). {{reply to|Can I Log In}}'s talk page!

Universal Music Publishing specifies the tempo of the song as 116 bpm, but this conflicts with my own discoveries. Not only does the app "liveBPM" measure a tempo of 115 bpm, but this can also be confirmed using a DAW, in this case "Logic Pro X". If the beginning of the song is aligned to 115 bpm, the beat lays on the metronome click from start to finish. If instead the beginning of the song is aligned to 116 bpm, it takes less than four bars to hear song and metronome drifting away from each other.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dowmeant (talk • contribs) 22:08, 21 August 2020 (UTC) 

Another example of this is if you look at Universal Music Publishing, "Future Nostalgia" has a temp of 116 bpm see here but on MusicNotes its 115 bmp. One example of many where it shouldn't be trusted. Musicnotes.com is an interpretation of the song but not necessarily the same version released commercially. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 11:37, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Linking words with a dash on them on wikipedia is generally frowned upon. It would be mis-leading for users to come to an article and see seveeral genres like dance-pop and then see electro-funk linked as two seperate terms. They were not discussed as two different genres in the sourced article, they were said as one. It would be wrong to interpret it in a way that was not used by the original author. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Future Nostalgia is a single of the the album. First, it was released separately from the album with its own cover art. Second, it was serviced to radio on the date of its release. Third, there are reliable sources calling it a single. Here are the link to the sources:
https://web.archive.org/web/20191213230745/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dua-lipa-single-future-nostalgia-926610/
https://www.iheart.com/content/2019-12-14-dua-lipa-drops-sassy-retro-future-nostalgia-title-track-listen/
WAL209 (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)