# Talk:Energy in Turkey

When is peak energy (as opposed to peak electricity) demand and how much energy storage is needed when?

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/energysource/coronavirus-emergency-measures-should-persuade-ukraine-romania-and-turkey-to-legitimize-energy-reform-not-reverse-it/

Article has a few broken short cites (see Category:Harv and Sfn multiple-target errors):

Gomez et al: Future skills (2019)
Ersoy (2019)
Saygın et al (2019)
Also, plain text cites should be converted to full citations or to {{sfn}}/{{harvnb}} cites:

OECD (2019)
Turkstat report (2019)
Europe Beyond Coal(2020)
Şahin (2018)
Aşıcı (2017)
Şahin (2019)
BP (2019)
Shura2018
Thanks, Renata (talk) 04:31, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

@Renata3: Thanks - might you have time to do the good article review? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:33, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

now 4 at https://www.cobenefits.info/country-studies-infographics/studies/turkey/ may be useful

also https://www.tskb.com.tr/i/assets/document/pdf/energy_outlook_2020.pdf
At end of May need to check if mmo have published this

First of all Chidgk1, feel free to answer me after your GAR concludes if you prefer: I will still be editing Wikipedia in one or two weeks 😊. I blanked the description per WP:SDNONE because I could not come up with a sub-40 characters short desc (per WP:SDSHORT) that was not redundant with the title of the article. I figured that, accordingly, the article did not need a short desc. JBchrch talk 16:12, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

I think a shortdesc makes sense in this article, and while I did copy the new desc from Energy in the United Kingdom I think it's the best option we have, unless User:Chidgk1 or someone else disagrees.  Uness232 (talk) 17:59, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Ah I see now the short desc helper does not prompt for a change comment - I should have used the source editor and commented. Unfortunately I cannot find another "Energy in X" article which is rated "good" or above to copy from. Changed to "Make, use and trade energy in Turkey". But feel free to change again if you have better. Please use source editor and add a change comment to explain why better - thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 06:59, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
While Energy in the United Kingdom is not a good article, it is of fairly high quality and I believe has the best description for an article like this. The description you have added is gramatically incorrect, and even if that problem is fixed, the word 'make' can not be used as a noun in that sense. Uness232 (talk) 15:42, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Also Chidgk1, would be very happy if you addressed my final issue on section 3b so I can give this a pass? Thanks. Uness232 (talk) 15:49, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
I remain unconvinced by either short descs. Make, use and trade energy in Turkey is grammatically incorrect and Overview of the use of energy in Turkey does not mention that the article adresses production and trade. Maybe, Production and use of energy in Turkey? I still think that {{shortdesc|none}} is more appropriate, though. JBchrch talk 15:51, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
You might be right actually, as my shortdesc runs into the problem of redundancy as well, as you mentioned in your first comment, so for now changing it to {{shortdesc|none}}. Uness232 (talk) 18:39, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello Metuboy Thanks for taking an interest in this somewhat neglected subject. I think for readability any percentages in the lead should be to the nearest 10% or 5%. Partly because hydropower varies so much from year to year but mainly for readability. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:08, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

OK should I use '10 percent' instead of '10%' ?? Metuboy (talk) 18:16, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Percentages mentions body of article but not lead so I guess up to you. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:26, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your help Chidgk! I really appreciate Metuboy (talk) 18:38, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Bir şey değil. By the way if you are interested in energy I have a few articles I am trying to bring to "good" standard awaiting review, such as Solar power in Turkey. I am sure if you reviewed one of my good article nominations you would be able to find a lot of things wrong and suggest a lot of improvements.  Chidgk1 (talk) 18:50, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Yes. I would love to help you out! Ofc Metuboy (talk) 12:12, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Metuboy and other native speakers,
As you can see it is in bad shape. As my Turkish is poor it is hard for me to find good sources. If any of you could improve that article I expect you would find useful cites which you could also use here. As you know this is a hot topic so it would be great to bring both articles up to date. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:17, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

You mean improving this article in Turkish? or in English? Metuboy (talk) 12:11, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
I guess you are a native speaker of Turkish or bilingual? If not please ignore this. There are various articles about Turkey which are "good" in English but not in Turkish - tr:Türkiye'de enerji is one of them. If you or another native speaker are interesting in first improving tr:Türkiye'de enerji there should also be benefits for this article as it is almost a year since it was listed "good", so improving the Turkish article would likely reveal new sources or new info which should also be added here. Because the subject has moved on since a year ago. Also it should be easy for a native Turkish speaker to expand that article by translating parts of this one - for example the section about oil. And while translating they could tag problems here. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi. Indeed I am native Turkish speaker and I would love to help it out with some turkish sources as well Metuboy (talk) 22:16, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Metuboy OK I have tr:Türkiye'de enerji on my watchlish. Let me know if you find anything useful for this article too - for example whether Turkey made a new contract with Russia to buy gas after the old contract finished end 2021, or whether the govt will wait until the 2025 contract expires. You need my advice on the Wikipedia translation tool? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:25, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello @103.246.36.121 - you recently added the following: 
In 2022, it was announced that there is a shortage, which is bigger than any other previous shortages. This is because a lot of energy which comes from Iran cannot be supplied. 
Could you possibly discuss this at Talk:Oil_and_gas_in_Turkey#Flow_of_gas_from_Iran
Chidgk1 (talk) 08:20, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

https://enerji.gov.tr//Media/Dizin/EIGM/tr/Raporlar/TUEP/T%C3%BCrkiye_Ulusal_Enerji_Plan%C4%B1.pdf Chidgk1 (talk) 16:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

https://shura.org.tr/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/SHURA-2023-11-Rapor-Enerji-Sektoru-icin-Politikalar.pdf
need to add once has been translated presumably in a few months time Chidgk1 (talk) 17:59, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

now english https://shura.org.tr/en/net-zero-2053-energy-sector-policies/ Chidgk1 (talk) 17:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

https://carnegieeurope.eu/2024/02/28/understanding-energy-drivers-of-turkey-s-foreign-policy-pub-91733 Chidgk1 (talk) 12:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Also check gas oil maps against its map Chidgk1 (talk) 13:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)