# Talk:Charlotte Motor Speedway

Why do they mention the zMax dragway, but not the Dirt Track at Lowes Motor Speedway?  The dirt track was there first, and hosts World of Outlaw sprint car and late model events.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.0.64.154 (talk) 17:38, 14 October 2009 (UTC) 

Dirt track now included! Lvi56 (talk) 06:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

A pedestrian bridge here collapsed in 1999 or 2000, injuring some 80 people; we should include something on that. --Golbez (talk) 14:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I've decided to leave this incident out for the time being. I haven't found information that I am satisfied with about the incident. While many were injured, there's not much to support how the collapse happened and what actions followed, apart from some lawsuits. It's been difficult to round up all the news on multiple lawsuits, and find info on the exact cause of the collapse. Perhaps another editor can dig up something.Lvi56 (talk) 07:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll be doing some major cleanup and rewrite of this article over the next few days. Already have a good portion of it outlined and written outside of wiki. For anyone watching the page, expect a huge improvement soon, with goal of GA status.Lvi56 (talk) 09:08, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
I've hidden and removed the Nascar stats. Kept some hidden for future reference if needed by other editors. Removed list of race winners, such lists are usually included on the race pages. Lvi56 (talk) 21:16, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Voices in my Head WrestleMania XXVII 01:13, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

The tags for citations have not been addressed, and there are some unsourced sections. Since there hasn't been work done on it since the above review, I'm going to fail the article. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Recovering the IndyCar section/results that were blanked at some point. There have been small discussions about a return of the race. Doctorindy (talk) 15:31, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Indy Racing League races were held at the circuit in 1997 and 1998, with Buddy Lazier and Kenny Bräck winning the mid-summer Saturday night 500k (208 lap) races on the circuit. In 1999, the race was moved to the first weekend in May, the last race before the Indianapolis 500. On the 61st lap, a crash led to a car losing a tire, which was then propelled into the stands by another car. Three spectators were killed and eight others were injured in the incident. 
As reported by IRL announcer Mike King, grandstands in the apex of Turn 1 were closed, but seats in Turns 1 and 2 past the apex were open.  Seats outside of Turn 4 were also closed.  When attendance grew beyond the 50,000 expected for the race, extra sections of stands were opened, and one of them was the section of track where the debris flew in Turn 4. Buddy Lazier was leading the race at the time of the caution for the Lap 62 crash involving Stan Wattles and John Paul Jr. when Wattles’ rear suspension failed, with the right rear wheel assembly hit by Paul, launching it into the grandstands. The SpeedVision video of the crash and analysis is on YouTube here. After pit stops, Greg Ray was leading the race when the race was abandoned. The race was canceled after 79 laps, and the IRL did not return.
That incident, and a previous incident in July 1998 in a Champ Car race at Michigan which also killed three spectators (that race was run to its finish), led to new rules requiring cars to have tethers attached to wheel hubs in an effort to prevent such incidents from happening again. New catch fencing was also invented, curved so debris could not sail as easily into the grandstands.
Following the accident, a short series of bombings took place in Lowe's stores in North Carolina, injuring three, and prompting some to think there may be a link with a relative of one of the victims. When George Rocha was arrested for the bombings, he claimed that he was angry about the crash at the speedway, but he later confessed that it was retribution for being caught shoplifting and an attempt at extortion. [1]


### Results
5555 Concord Parkway South?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgsho (talk • contribs) 02:11, 19 September 2011 (UTC) 

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The Xfinity and truck races were recently removed from the info box. Can we re-add them? I think they are still events that should be listed. RBF48 (talk) 01:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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### Prose review
#### Lede
After initially refusing, Turner eventually partnered with Smith after Smith agreed to sell shares needed for the track's construction.  - Any way to avoid repeating Smith twice in three words?
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
the track's construction. Construction of the facility was completed in less than 11 months. - Any way to avoid repeating construction twice in succession?
 Done. Let me know if you want it tweaked further. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)


#### Description
In 2019, the speedway's chicane was modified.[8] ... Further modifications to two of the road course's chicanes were announced in 2024. - We went from one chicane to at least three? I'm not following.
Fixed. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Charlotte Motor Speedway (CMS) is located directly next to U.S. Route 29. - Makes more sense to introduce the abbreviation in the previous subsection, which only uses "the speedway"
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
You don't seem to have introduced that the track is located in Concord in the body of the article
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)


#### History
collaborating with local track officials - How were there officials when CMS didn't exist? Were there other tracks in the area?
Fixed. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
the fact that Turner did not have enough funds to start his own track ... Smith announced his intention to build his own speedway to rival Turner's on April 22, 1959, the same day Turner announced his track - If he thought that Turner was never going to complete the project, is it truly "to rival"?
Good point. It sounds more like a bluff. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
but was delayed due to legal issues - Any further information available?
Specified. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Reports of feral hornets were also made, leading to multiple workers quitting. - Why not simplify to "Feral hornets led to multiple workers quitting."
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
a mutiny formed between Flowe and his workers, citing unpaid fees and bounced checks. - Mutiny is not used in its dictionary definition here. This sounds like Flowe and his employees held a labor action or work stoppage. Also goes to neutrality, as a mutiny deals with lawful leadership, whereas this was a contract dispute
Fixed. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Nearing the end of the facility's construction, a mutiny formed between Flowe and his workers, citing unpaid fees and bounced checks. On June 9, days before the World 600, Flowe parked several earthmovers on the track and stopped construction, with Flowe threatening to sue. - Whom was Flow threatening to sue?
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
CMS cost around two million dollars according to McIlvaine, with $74,000 in debts owed to Flowe by the end of its initial construction. - You've provided adjusted-for-inflation values elsewhere. That would be useful here.
 Done. Admittedly, I was a bit worried about overusing it; need to work on that. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
a souvenir program advertising seller - was he selling advertising spaces in the souvenir program, selling souvenir programs, advertising souvenir programs, or...?
Specified. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
by both Smith and Turner, with Turner threatening legal action. - Any way of avoiding the repetition of "Turner"?
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Moneys owing - Another spot where adjusted-for-inflation may be useful.
 Done. Let me know if you want more figures. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
ceasing all officers' and directors' positions - This doesn't read as grammatical. Do you mean "with all officers and directors removed from their positions"?
Fixed. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
On December 9, Craven ruled to let the track's management find loans and funds to creditors who were seeking money, with Robinson being ordered to come up with a plan to ensure the $900,000 payment to various creditors, essentially saving CMS. - Not clear. Do you mean that Craven ruled to allow the track's management to find loans, with which they could pay off their creditors?
Fixed. Let me know if it works for you. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
However, Cross, who was planning to loan the rest of the funds needed, was rejected. - Do you mean "However, a loan offered by Cross to cover the remaining debts rejected."?
Fixed. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
December to January 3, 1963 - Any specific start date?
As much as I'd like a specific date, both articles don't have a start date. Sorry. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
The track later oversaw numerous driver fatalities in the mid-1960s; longtime driver Glenn "Fireball" Roberts died on July 2, 1964 due to complications from a fiery crash at the 1964 World 600, - you've introduced Roberts above; the link should be provided there, and perhaps his full name.
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
spat on each other in the media - per WP:SLANG, we should use a more formal term than "spat". They were certainly not exchanging saliva.
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
I see you are using "by [year]" a lot. Generally, "by" means something happened before a year and would go with present/past perfect, whereas "in" means something happened during a year and uses the past tense.
 Done. Let me know if you want things tweaked further. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 18:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
levigation - worth including a link to Wiktionary?
Added link. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)


#### Events
There are a lot of small subsections here. Is it worth combining them to reduce the extent to which the article is broken up?
Fixed. Let me know if you want it tweaked further.


#### General
I have edited the article. Please review.
A few more currency amounts that would benefit from adjustment for inflation
Earwig's Tool shows no copyright violation.


### Source review
Please review sources for capitalization (compare Ref 28 and 81, for example)
Should be fine on that end. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 18:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Please review article to ensure that references appear in order (note [27][26] in Description, for example)
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Please review to ensure that inclusion of the publisher is consistent (compare Ref 193 with Ref 194)
Again, I think everything looks fine on my end. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 18:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)


### Image review
ALT text is not standardized; please ensure that all images either have or do not have ALT text.
 Done. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 18:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
File:Charlotte Motor Speedway logo.svg - That car design looks very borderline, based on the COM:TOO. I'd recommend a DR on Commons to gain a consensus, short of any existing litigation showing that it wasn't allowed to be registered.
File:Charlotte Motor Speedway diagram.svg - What is the source for the data used in this map?
File:Lowe's Motor Speedway zMax Drag Strip.jpg - Properly licensed. I'm a bit iffy about the placement, given that it sandwiches text with the infobox.
File:Bruton Smith Texas 2005.jpg - Image is currently uncategorized. I was a bit iffy on the sourcing, given the time between supposed date of creation and upload, but I have not found any prior uploads of the image.
File:J. Braxton Craven (cropped).jpg - License looks correct. Caption should be trimmed
Trimmed. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
File:HumpyWheeler2010NMPA.jpg - Properly licensed
File:Lowe's Motor Speedway.jpg - Properly licensed
File:Roval Backstretch Pace Lap 2018.jpg - Properly licensed
File:2024 Coca-Cola 600 third stage from frontstretch.jpeg - Properly licensed
File:AugustJam1.jpg - Image shows signs of halftoning, which indicates that this may be scanned from a magazine or other published source. This gives Joe Griffin as the creator. That being said, I haven't been able to locate any earlier web uploads, so it may be the uploader's.


### Conclusion
 On hold Looks like there is a bit of work to do still, but overall this is in pretty good shape.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:26, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
@Crisco 1492: Thank you so much for taking on this review! Got around to your concerns, and I hope it looks all right from your standpoint. Let me know if you want anything else. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:16, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
You've very welcome, Nascar9919. The prose looks good now.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
@Crisco 1492: Got around to some of the more grammar issues and I think the references should be fine. If you need anything else like more inflation figures, let me know. Thank you! Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 18:39, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Alright, Nascar9919. I do see that capitalization is still not standardized in the references (contrast Ref 137 with Ref 141 and subsequent, for example). How are we on the images?  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:52, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
@Crisco 1492: Regarding the capitalization, I thought it was correct to make the titles' capitalization correlate to what it says on the source (in this case, newspaper)? i.e., 137 and 141 having different capitalization for each title. Thought the only exception is if the entire title is in all caps. I never had someone bring that up until now.  Correct me if I'm wrong.
As for the images, the diagram has some coordinates as its source according to its info page. I also switched around the placement of the second image. Category has been made for the Smith image as well. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 06:39, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Hi Nascar9919. WP:CITESTYLE specifies that "citations within any given article should follow a consistent style", which is where my question about capitalization comes in - variations between sentence-case and title-case are indicative of inconsistency. As for the images, I did mention some concerns about the copyright status of a couple of the pictures included here.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:23, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
@Crisco 1492: Changed the capitalization of the sources. Also, I thought it'd be best to just remove the August Jam photo. If there's anything else you want done, let me know. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 20:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Alright, looks good. I may be a bit too cautious on the logo (and a DR on Commons takes forever, so it wouldn't be fair to the nomination to have it wait). It does appear to be a borderline case, as US Copyright law has a high bar for TOO, so I think it can slide for now.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Based on the above review, I believe that this article meets the GA criteria. Congratulations! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Also, Nascar9919, I see that this article has not been through DYK yet. With the new GA status, it qualifies to feature on the main page. If you aren't sure of the process, I can also nominate it. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Feel free to nominate it :) Thanks again! Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 21:08, 29 September 2024 (UTC)