# Talk:Charles Lloyd (Australian general)

Hi AC, re. the missing words in the lead, losing "held" was my bad but losing "a number of" was deliberate. I think that phrase and its varations are overused and can generally be trimmed, e.g. "a large number of" ==> "many", "a small number of" ==> "a few", "a number of" ==> "several" or indeed nothing at all, which I think works in this case.  Not a show-stopper, but that was my rationale. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:03, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for taking the time to look over the article and to copy-edit it. I've tweaked it again - does it work now? Anotherclown (talk) 11:18, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Tks for putting the article together -- I admit I'd never heard of the guy before but glad I have now. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:33, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes he seems to be interesting in his dullness - a major general who as a member of the staff corps and an artillery officer didn't seem to hold any notable commands but became the Army's youngest general (this might particularly puzzle those who don't understand the importance of staff / operations / executive appointments as opposed to command roles). Anotherclown (talk) 11:48, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Indeed -- Eisenhower is an example of that too I think.  I was also interested in how Lloyd seemed to have thought that as a two-star in 1946 he'd gone as far as he could go. Lots of RAAF one- and two-stars were forcibly retired that year but they were WWI vets whom the government decided had reached their use-by dates. Pretty well all the post-WWI-generation air officers that I can think of stuck around at least till the 1950s. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:06, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Followed the link fighting that followed in the text as follows but it didn't seam to lead to where it was pointed. I guess, what I am saying is that the linked article doesn't sat anything about "Australians units in Java being captured". Not my direct area of knowledge so I thought I would put it out there to set it right one way or the other.

Ultimately while a few Australian units were landed in Java, where they were inevitably captured in the fighting that followed, the bulk of the 6th and 7th Divisions were returned to Australia following pressure from the Australian government.
Cheers Cinderella157 (talk) 12:52, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

I've adjusted the link now to Battle of Java (1942). Anotherclown (talk) 21:02, 19 November 2016 (UTC)