# Talk:Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift

Nintendo DS? Where does it say that? The link used as a referance makes no mention of it being for the DS, and neither does the actual article. It just has the title and says to wait for more information in a follow up report soon. You shouldn't jump to conclusions that'll be for the DS just because it has "A2" in the title.

Who knows what system it will be on, but what is it likely going to be on?  The PSP have one already, and A2, or advance 2 is clearly meant to mean its somewhat of a sequel to the original, which was on the GBA so its seems logical to think that.  I didn't write it, so if you don't want it there just type the site in google and let it translate for you before removing it.  CanCanDuo 21:02 Demcember 15 2006 (UTC)
The GBA never inspired SE whatsoever. They put DQIX on the DS because it was so much more successful for them than the GBA was. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Of course the DS is more successful for square enix to make games on than the GBA.  I simply said that the A2 seams like a sequel to the original Tactics Advance and likely for the DS.  CanCanDuo 15:42, December 19 2006 (UTC)
References to the Nintendo DS should be removed for now as only claim so far is that according to people who went to Jump Festa, at the end of Ivalice Alliance trailers it said FFTA2 will be for the DS. This is not a reliable source. We should wait until reputable gaming magazines report it. --Kusunose 08:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Removed. When you restore it, please cite reliable sources. --Kusunose 09:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I have found a source for this in Japanese media and restored the references. Can someone find English one so that everyone can verify? --Kusunose 12:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
The official subtitle of the game is "Grimoire of the Rift", according to Square Enix's trademark (here, I don't know if it works correctly). Someone needs to change the name of the article, then! Zanasea 15:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

A trademarked subtitle doesn't mean much.  Square Enix has been sitting on a "Chrono" trademark title for a couple of years now.  We'll have to wait until Square Enix gives an official English name before changing the article's name. LanceHeart 19:40, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, I don't think the example of Chrono is very appropriate this time. We know FFTA2 was announced, that its name contains the word "grimoire" and another one ("fuuketsu") which means something about a sealed cave, and that "Grimoire of the Rift" is very close to it (the "rift" being this mysterious "fuuketsu"). I consider this is proof enough, but well, you are probably right, we need to wait for an official announcement. Zanasea 21:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Could the 'fuuketsu/rift' be referring to some sort of portal between the real world and Ivalice? It'd make sense, because a book (a grimoire, to be precise) is what caused the real world to change into the fantasy world of Ivalice in Tactics Advance. SilverCalibur 18:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo Power announced it was for DS in Vol. 213 mattiator 03:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I had added a sentence "It is a sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics Advance" with references and it was removed twice. The reasons of removal ware "Square Enix does not acknowledge that there is any connection in the contuinity of the games" and "SE has never said that it's a sequel." However, according to references I had added (Famitsu and IT Media), in Dec 18, Square Enix had announced that they are developing Final Fantasy Tactics A2 and it is a sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. As I have commented, gpara.com[1], Dengeki Online[2] also reported it and none of them used wording that suggests they are just speculating. --Kusunose 15:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

An English reference has been added. Bluerです。 なにか? 20:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
The only connection is Mewt at the end of the game. It uses the same battle system, and races, etc. but the first game shows that Ivalice is an imaginary world. The second game shows it as a real world. Twinwarrior (talk)

This looks like it wouldn't even be for the DS.... but hoefully it is--TheGreenLink 18:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)...)

It is. Kariteh 22:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
It has been stated by many sources that it was for the DS, and of course now that it is out, it obviously is.
71.197.212.92 (talk) 05:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I believe, purely based on the same katakana and the same color theme (blue), that the moogle named "Hardy" in this page is actually Hurdy, one of the Moogle siblings from FF XII. I'll wait for confirmation for this one before jumping into conclusions, though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SamSandy (talk • contribs) 17:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

Hurdy has more bearing than Hardy. Albeit different appearance, role and job, Hurdy's more plausible. — Bluerです。 なにか? 18:24, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Though the official site begs to differ. — Bluerです。 なにか? 14:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it's spelt Hardy in the Japanese FFXII too? I guess we'll know for sure when FFXII RW is released in English. Kariteh 15:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
No, the FFXII Ultimania spelt it in romaji as Hurdy. And why FFXII RW? — Bluerです。 なにか? 15:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Oops I meant FFTA2! (with all the crossovers in those titles...) Kariteh 15:48, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Considering we don't know if this is remotely in the same time period as FFXII or if Hurdy is born/still alive during the setting of this game, we can't just assume that it's the same Hurdy as in FFXII.  The best confirmation would be to know that he's an airship engineer. LanceHeart 11:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Of course we know it's the same time period as FFXII. We know the entire Ivalice timeline. It was all said in Ultimania Guides and Famitsu articles. I've never understood why people pretend official information doesn't exist when it just simply exists. Kariteh 11:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
And Hardy/Hurdy is not an airship engineer. — Bluerです。 なにか? 11:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to remind editors that we follow the official character names released by Square Enix. Don't go around assuming and speculating, and wait for official info before adding in. We are not a fansite that thinks we're better than Square Enix in giving game information. — Bluerで す。 01:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I think the character, who's a musician, is named after the Hurdy in hurdy gurdy, which is a musical instrument (used as a weapon) in the game, and has the same katakana as the character name. Hopefully the translators notice that. --Mujokan (talk) 14:59, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
It is Hurdy, and in FFXI you can also find Gurdy, running the Chocobos. In Japanese, the Ha character most reseambles the sound we have for Hurdy, thus the Hardy. Twinwarrior (talk)

Should I supplement the Characters section with Offical Art? ShiraShira 23:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Of course, accompanied with fair-use rationale, but better limit the number as the article is not that large. — Bluerです。 なにか? 00:54, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

There's a new site up with new info on Tactics A2. I'll add the new info, with references later today Cocopopz2005 00:31, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Make sure it's not a fansite, and a credible source for the game's information. But IMO most websites all share the same sources; basically one site has the same info as other sites. — Bluerです。 なにか? 00:54, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
forgot to mention that, it's the official site. i get emails from palgn, and it had link to the site
it's http://www.ffta2.com/ Cocopopz2005 02:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

The article lists the release date as "July 2007" and links to a Kotaku article. However, SE's official homepage lists the game as "to be released in Fall 2007". link
I really think we should prefer SE's own site over Kotaku as source for reliable information, so I'd suggest the release date to be changed to "Fall 2007".
Taku25 13:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You're right. The release date is changed until further changes from Square. — Bluerで す。 16:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey, hate to break it to you guys, but its 2008. Has it been released yet? Are there plans for a US release? If so, when? All'd be helpful additions to the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.181.243.82 (talk) 01:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC) 
Anyone have any source that says the North American release is on June 24th 2008? — Blue。 04:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Other than the Game Stop preorder thing saying June 24, 2008, nope.  But from experience, their dates get changed a lot. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 02:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
[3] FightingStreet (talk) 09:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
can anyone plz put in the link for Australian and New Zealand release?  Awqaw123123 (talk) 08:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

You can do it yourself. Just make sure that it was officially announced, not on a fansite or something.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 08:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

does Square Enix have plans to localize Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Fūketsu no Grimoire internationally. 67.164.35.55 03:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

No announcements yet.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Latest Game Informer magazine referenced to the game with date listed as TBA, this might mean there is a plan for US release.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.65.185 (talk) 03:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC) 

In FFT official web is confirmed that the English name of this game is Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift.http://na.square-enix.com/fftactics/ (Story --> Dramatis Personae --> Luso)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinh (talk • contribs) 04:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 

Does anyone know the usual time difference between the release of a game in the North American region compared to the release date in the PAL region? If there is one we could put an estimated release date for the PAL region. send me a message on my home page if this is unreasonable Kangaroosrule (talk) 03:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It's unreasonable. It's not our job to go predicting release dates and the like; those actions violate WP:OR and WP:CRYSTAL.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

SQUARE ENIX MEMBERS has provided a North American "front package art" image for FINAL FANTASY TACTICS A2: Grimoire of the Rift in their 30 April 2008 Blog post.
Post link: 
http://member.square-enix.com/na/blog/2008/04/final-fantasy-tactics-a2-grimo.php
Image link: 
http://member.square-enix.com/na/blog/08043001.jpg
GO! GO! GO!
T.J. Fuller, Jr. (talk) 11:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you can do it yourself? This is a wiki where anyone can edit, after all. — Blue。 16:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm... not sure how to handle graphics.  My Wikixperience is mostly relegated to grammar and text cleanup. T.J. Fuller, Jr. (talk) 08:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
it's already done :) — Blue。 08:25, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
June 26 for Pal  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.235.238.106 (talk) 13:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC) 

Online multiplayer is listed under modes for this game.  I'd like to know where this information was found, as it is not cited, and why a Wi-Fi logo isn't on the boxart.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimentio (talk • contribs) 20:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC) 
This is false  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.212.92 (talk) 05:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC) 

r My Eb Games have said realease date is on the 26 of June. Have asked other Eb games and they have said 26th also. I keep changing it but it keeps being changed back

I'm assuming that you're in the UK, like me, and are referring to the UK release date. Except in very special situations (e.g. console lauch games), games are only ever released on a Monday or a Friday. June 27th is a Friday, June 26th is a Thursday. Amazon UK says June 27th, Play.com says June 27th and even the official website says June 27th (check News). In short, June 27th is the official release date. Thanks. Yellow Mage (talk) 12:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
This is the same in australia. EB eMailed me saying that they will release it on the 26th Kangaroosrule (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

The North American Square Enix members page has interviews with the development staff. Quite a lot of info useful for the article's development section. — Blue。 18:28, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Is it just me, or do these appear to not be working?
71.197.212.92 (talk) 05:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

What is the traffic on this page? I want to know if its worth making major adjustments.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.212.92 (talk) 06:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC) 
Regardless of the traffic, please edit. I freaking love this game. Twinwarrior (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 04:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC). 

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Freikorp (talk · contribs) 10:16, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Is it reasonably well written?
"and forms part of the Ivalice Alliance" - I think this could be presented better for people unfamiliar with the series, perhaps explicitly describing Ivalice as a fictional universe
" and Judges supervising battles" - this is confusing to people unfamiliar with the series, you'll have to present it better in the lead if you want to keep it there
"were later used in mobile titles" - I'd wikilink 'mobile titles' to 'Mobile game'
"which cost Clan Points" - your going to have to explain what Clan points are if you want to keep this
"a series of titles released principally" - guessing the period before this is supposed to be a comma?
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Is it broad in its coverage? 
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Is it neutral? 
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Is it stable? 
No edit wars, etc: 
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Pass or Fail: Looks really good. Placing on hold until minor issues are addresssed. Freikorp (talk) 10:41, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
@Freikorp: I think I've addressed all the issues you raised. --ProtoDrake (talk) 11:41, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Looks good to me, happy to pass this now. Well done. Freikorp (talk) 13:18, 7 March 2018 (UTC)