# Talk:Detroit-style pizza

If anyone is interested in demonstrating its international reach, this article reports on Detroit-style pizza being served in a restaurant in Canberra, AUS. I'm from Michigan, so when I was in Canberra last November and saw a place serving DSP, I was impressed! P. D. Cook Talk to me! 18:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Pdcook, thanks! I've made an addition. —valereee (talk) 11:04, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I removed the following
Subsequent articles in the New York Post describe pizzerias serving Detroit-style pizza as having some of the best pizza in New York City.  During the 2016 to 2019 timeframe, a major food publication featured Detroit-style pizza in articles that described: key regional styles of pizza, a New Jersey chef now serving Detroit-style pizza in Atlanta, a Toronto-based restaurant serving Detroit-style pizza with multicultural influences, and a new, award-winning New York-based chain specializing in Detroit-style pizza .  A large, established pizza chain is running a test market with Detroit-style pizza.  Strong interest continues, with several pizzerias opening up in Los Angeles and Seattle in 2020.  There is also growth of a New York-based regional chain serving Detroit-style pizza that opened a new location in Washington, D.C. in 2020.  A major international travel publication has featured Detroit-style pizza served at some of the best pizza restaurants in Chicago, New York City, and Boston.  2019 marked the opening of a Michigan-based chain serving Detroit-style pizza in the heart of New York City.  The positive reception and growing interest also extends to both regional and national home baker markets, with recipes, training courses, ingredients, and supplies available, including Detroit-style pizza pans.  The increasing trend of home delivery food has also expanded to include Detroit-style pizza and one pizzeria has received positive coverage on a popular Internet review channel.  One writer for a major food and recipe website has expressed a strong, newfound preference for Detroit-style pizza, despite being a Chicago native and a current New York City resident.  
...because it didn't improve the article. The sources may be helpful, but the way it's written is just strange. Some of it isn't about reception. It seems to be just a collection of mentions of the style expressed in vague terms. —valereee (talk) 10:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback.  The idea was to describe the positive reception, to include sources, and to build upon the good article.  If there are suggestions for how to revise the removed text, please provide them and I will try to rephrase and modify the text.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renewableandalternativeenergy (talk • contribs) 10:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC) 

Some of the proposed references do include reviews that can be described in the Reception section.  If there is interest, I can prepare some draft text using a writing style that is similar to that of the existing text.  --Renewableandalternativeenergy (talk) 00:43, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

While putting sauce on top of the pizza in dollops or lines is a signature feature of a couple of the best known shops (Buddy's and Cloverleaf for instance), I do not believe this is universal to all Detroit style pizza joints. Am I wrong that Jet's and Loui's don't do this? Little Caesar's "Deep Deep" product is a Detroit style pizza and also has sauce then cheese as in a "regular" pizza. Also if memory serves from a long while back, the Club 500 and Cal's on the east side didn't do it either. I'm suggesting softening the language here just slightly as I don't believe sauce on top is an essential feature to the style.Lager guy99 (talk) 00:01, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
You are correct Lager guy99.  Arguably the vast majority of the population doesn't know Detroit style for sauce on top.  Jets and Little Cesar's (both Michigan based companies have sauce under the cheese and make up a vast majority of the market.  As well, other popular Michigan pizza companies (Green Lantern and Passport Pizza do not put their sauce on top).  Only a few actually do (Cloverleaf and Buddy's in specific).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.224.173.243 (talk) 06:32, 20 February 2021 (UTC) 

This needs citation to reliable sources. It doesn't really matter if some chains aren't doing this unless someone is discussing in reliable sources.  —valereee (talk) 20:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
I would say that removing the claim that all Detroit style pizza has sauce on the top is a legitimate move here as the original claim (that sauce on top is universal) lacked any reliable sources, and such sources will not be found since the statement is false. Removal of an unfounded and inaccurate claim does not itself require sources as no new claim is being made and it is not possible to cite the negative. The updated article still acknowledges that sauce on top is a recognizable and "traditional" feature of some Detroit style pizza (which is correct), but simply does not go as far as to claim that it is a component of all Detroit style pizza.24.36.165.124 (talk) 14:35, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

This article seems to creep over time with additions of content that aren't really valuable to readers. Just because something about this pizza appears in print doesn't mean we should include it. The general rule of thumb is that if it won't be important to mention in ten years, it isn't worth mentioning now. Let's discuss. valereee (talk) 18:23, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

See Wikipedia Noble Roman's
In the 1980's and 1990's franchise chain Noble Roman's served a Deep Dish Sicilian pizza, baked in what is essentially a rectangular lasagne pan, and served in the restaurant as such, as the original pizza in this article is described.
It was a family style pizza, in that it was served in the pan, was deep, cut and served like you would a piece of lasagna, and was otherwise as the pizza made by Gus and Anna Guerra. 98.102.71.82 (talk) 12:45, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Was it "Detroit style" pizza, though? You say it was Sicilian, a very different style. If so, do you have a source? IAmNitpicking (talk) 01:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)