# Talk:Hurricane Winifred

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Winifred (1992)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: 12george1 (talk) 03:38, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Why is there no caption under the picture of Winifred?
Added.
"caused more than $5 million (1992 USD), $8 million (2010 USD) in damage." - Add an inflation template in the same parenthesis as 1992 USD, and then erase $8 million (2010 USD).
Fixed.
"It gradually headed west-northwestward, slowly organized, and developed and concentrated convection." - I think you are missing the word deep between developed and concentrated.
The Meteorological history is rather short, it can be expanded using information from here.
What exactly is mising from it?
Well, just looking at the first three discussions, it seems that they were way off on the intensity predictions (btw, I messed up when I put that link on). So you are missing a lot of info on NHC's operational predictions. In addition, later discussions, like #6, predicted only light intensification, shortly before rapid intensification occurred. Furthermore, there should it should also be noted that it was operationally seemed that Winifred peaked as only a high-end Category 2 hurricane, rather than a Category 3 (highest operationally recorded wind speed is in Discussion #12. Some discussions shortly before landfall also showed Winifred surviving over land in Mexico until as late as October 12, but the storm ended up dissipating less than 24 hours after landfall. I could go on and on about this, so in basic summary: you are missing NHC's operational data and the significant inaccuracy of intensity predictions.--12george1 (talk) 04:57, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
"Manzanillo, Colima" is linked too many times; delink all but where it is wikilinked in the lead.
"On 0300 UTC Ocotber 9" - first of all, there is a typo here. Second, reword to "On October 9 at 0300 UTC", it will read better and makes more sense.
None of the words in tropical storm warning should be capitalized.
Fixed.
In the same sentence, you are missing a period at the end.
There has to be more impact out there, like on Google News.
I checked google news and found only one minor detail that was missing. The others were either the Earthweek column or were duplications of the Calgary Heral source.
Reference #4 is on a separate line, delete the space between the period (once you add it) and the ref tag.
"Starting on October 8,[1]" - I hate when people do this; it seems like you are citing that "Starting on October 8", instead of what it is intended to cite; move the reference to the end of that sentence.
Why do you have American units first and then metric unit in parenthesis in the MH, but vice-versa here?
Fixed.
"Waves 4 m (4.4 yd) forced the closure of" - metres are always converted to feet, not yards.
"damage in his state was 16000 pesos (1992 MXP)." - What is 16000 pesos in United States dollar?
In the references, National Hurricane Center is wikilinked every time; obviously you can't fix it on reference #2,
It's linked every time for reasons of consistency. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
I am putting this review on hold so that the above improvements can either be fixed or addressed.--12george1 (talk) 03:38, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

I wrote a tad of article (it was in my userspace), and I think the article can be expanded slightly by inclduing discussions from the NHC and from Google's' newspaper archive. YE  Tropical Cyclone
With no effort at all for 7 days to fix my issue with the shortness of the Meteorological History, I have no choice but to fail this GA nomination.--12george1 (talk) 03:05, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Winifred (1992)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: 12george1 (talk) 03:05, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I just thought I would review this article on its second nomination. There were also some problems that I forgot mention in the first nomination review.
"Hurricane Winifred was the last tropical cyclone to make landfall in the busy" - Wikilink "landfall" .
Done.
The second paragraph in the lead does not mention any specific dates, and "Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale" should be wikilinked.
In the Meteorological history, the first paragraph does not mention that the depression that intensified into a tropical storm was named "Winifred", this is vital information to someone unfamiliar with the topic, seeing that it looks like the system became Winifred out of the blue.
Done
"was anticipating Winfred to reach" - Winifred is misspelled.
Done
"within the nest 36 hours." - nest? You mean next?
Yep.
"A large cyclone, Winfred continued to intensify." - Winifred is again misspelled.
Done
Look at these two sentences: "A small eye became evident on satellite imagery, and thus the winds increased to 145 km/h (85 mph)." "Winfred then intensified into a moderate Category 2 hurricane on Ocotber 9, although the eye briefly disappeared." In the first sentence it looks like your implying that if there was no eye, then winds would be less than 85 mph. Keep that in mind for the second sentence, where it says "the eye briefly disappeared"; judging by your implement on the first sentence, it looks like Winifred could have briefly weakened to a Category 1 hurricane or less because it did not have an eye for a short period of time. BTW, the words "Winifred" and "October" are misspelled.
Done.
The term "major hurricane" is not explained.
Done
It is kind of passive on how Winifred weakened over Mexico; "Winifred quickly weakened upon landfall. On October 10, it dissipated over the mountains of central Mexico." You should probably change it to something like this: "Winifred quickly weakened after landfall, and weakened to a tropical storm less than three hours later, which was early on October 10. Later on October 10, Winifred weakened to a tropical depression, before dissipating over the mountains of central Mexico."
Accepted your suggestion.
Some of the operational data is still missing, like for example, I stated in the other review, it was not known that Winifred peaked as a Category 3 hurricane, rather than a high-end Category 2 hurricane like operationally stated.
As for impact, when I stated that more impact was needed, I meant stuff like rainfall data in other areas of Mexico, like the Yucatan Peninsula, since it is only limited to Colima and Michoacán.
Those were the only areas affected by the storm. Thanks for the review, you did a great job. YE  Tropical Cyclone 04:19, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
In the references, there are some references where there are specific dates, but it is simply put as "(1992)", such as on the Discussions. In addition, there is inconsistency with the accessdates, like "Retrieved 3-26-11." and "Retrieved 2011-01-02." Also on Reference #9, you have last name first, but first name first on other references. Furthermore, there are many typos/spelling errors; I will quote the reference and then use bold to show the mistake.
Reference 2: Lixod Avila (1992). "Tropical Storm Winfred Discussion 4". National Hurricane Center. Retrieved 3-26-11. - Lixion and Winifred is misspelled.
Reference 3: Robert Pasch (1992). "Tropical Storm Winfred Discussion 5". National Hurricane Center. Retrieved 2011-3-26. - Robert? Wrong first name, and Winifred is again misspelled.
Reference 4: Max Lawrence (1992). "Hurricane Winfred Discussion 8". National Hurricane Center. Retrieved 2011-3-26. - Max? Again, wrong first name, and Winifred is misspelled yet again.
Reference 5: Max Mayfiled (1992). "Hurricane Winfred Discussion 10". National Hurricane Center. Retrieved 2011-3-26. - Mayfield is misspelled, and once again, Winifred is misspelled.
Ok, this is good enough to pass for GA. Just as a closing note the lead and the Meteorological history is rather short, it is passable here, but it may not fly at the FAC (if you plan to take it that far). Congratulations,--12george1 (talk) 23:47, 10 April 2011 (UTC)