# Talk:Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue

that means 2017 at the earliest. that is why i changed the release date.84.212.73.96 (talk) 13:49, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I believe it is a C rated article; if you look at the criteria, Start articles mainly have spelling and grammar issues along with structural problems and a lack of reliable sources. This article has none of those issues; in fact, the issues it has include content gaps and a need for copyediting, which describes a C article rating exactly. The article is therefore a C class, not a Start. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:43, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Well if there are no objections, I'd like to re-up the article to C status. Rest assured, further work will be done and it will be made a B and a GA at some point anyway. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:42, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
It still isn't a C yet. Definitely in the start range. If a bit more content gets added, then it will bump up to a C. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

The correction was reverted, why? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:49, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix, appreciated! :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 15:08, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Square Enix restructured their development structure in December 2013 to the Bussiness Division structure: http://www.famitsu.com/ad/welcome/160426_uncharted/?referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.famitsu.com%2Fnews%2F201312%2F28045984.html
KH series games are by BD3: http://www.jp.square-enix.com/recruit/career/group/3bd/
Just check the job listings, a lot of them are for KH, in particular KH3.Brayden96 (talk) 17:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

The lead currently calls this an HD remastered collection of the Kingdom Hearts series. It could be I’m not clear on the meaning of that phrase, but if it contains one remastered game and a brand-new game, I would say that label is wrong and misleading. Am I missing something? —67.14.236.50 (talk) 03:21, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

This is something that's been on my mind for a while, but the use of the colon and dash doesn't to line up with other colon-less Kingdom Hearts titles as they're formatted here, especially the title of this very article. Of course, considering how no one objected to the title for roughly a year before I spoke up, this discussion may very well be superfluous. But for the sake of general consistency, I feel now is as good a time as any. Given how A Fragmentary Passage is given the stylized subtitle treatment, plus taking the formatting of the title in the game's opening sequence into account (that being a break between Kingdom Hearts and 0.2 Birth by Sleep), I believe it'd be appropriate to move the colon after Birth by Sleep and remove the dash altogether, making it Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth by Sleep: A Fragmentary Passage. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 01:51, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

The reasoning was due to how the title was formatted in third party sources (and potentially press releases by Square Enix). Most had the title with the two subtitles: 0.2 as the first, Fragmentary second. As the collection is being released, more sources will undoubtedly make note of the title, which may help in determining if the way it is is correct, or what you have suggested. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:07, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

my edit was made to match HD 1.5 remix articleBlue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 19:01, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

I want to nominate this article for Good Article status. Are there any objections? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 15:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

I object, because you are not a significant contributor to the article. For the GA process, you had to have made many alterations to the article so that it meets the critera before you nominate it. Archiving sources via a bot is not significant. It's basically just taking credit for other's work. Even if I didn't remove the GAN template on this page, it likely would have failed the review anyway because of poor writing, an article style that doesn't follow WPVG/MOS, the lack of a screenshot, and a review section that is barren in terms of content. This article is a long way from becoming a GA, so I'd really put a lot of work into this before you decide to nominate this again. Thanks. Namcokid47 (Contribs) 16:11, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
For what it's worth, anyone can nominate an article to GA if they believe it meets the criteria. Anyone may nominate an article to be reviewed for GA, although it is preferable that nominators have contributed significantly to the article and are familiar with its subject and its cited sources. It's not a strict requirement. As for the article, it's probably close with a little more spitshine and beefing up some sections. Axem Titanium (talk) 05:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Nominators who are not significant contributors to the article should consult regular editors of the article on the article talk page prior to a nomination. Namcokid47 (Contribs) 21:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I added a bunch of content to the games section, greatly expanded the reception section, added a screenshot of something that was praised by reviewers, and rewrote the whole article. So I think, at some point, we should nominate this article for Good Article candidacy. If anyone sees something they want changed or added, let me know. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:30, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Truflip99 (talk · contribs) 18:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Will start this soon. --truflip99 (talk) 18:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

A successor to Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix game compilation -- "to KH HD 2.5 Remix" or "to the KH HD 2.5 Remix game comp"
Kingdom Hearts χ Back Cover,[a], -- why do you need the comma after the [a] note? (TBH, I don't think you need the provide the Japanese title, that's what the respective article is for)
Kingdom Hearts 0.2: Birth by Sleep – A Fragmentary Passage,[b], -- here too?
protagonists' Sora and Riku's -- omit apos after protagonist I think
Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance takes place after the events of the game Kingdom Hearts Re:coded. Dream Drop Distance focuses on the protagonists' Sora and Riku's "Mark of Mastery" exam. In order to pass, the pair must free parallel worlds from evil and hone their powers in preparation for the return of the powerful and evil Master Xehanort. -- ref for this synopsis?
which Nomura stated was indeed a full remake -- omit indeed
“less offensive than they originally were,” -- comma outside of quotes per MOS:LQ
game controller scheme -- compound adj hyphen
wikilink Aqua again in body, first instance
uses technology such as the Unreal Engine 4 from that game. -- duplicate link; also a bit redundant as you had already mentioned this. All the titles use it. Consolidate this under the Development section?
This game content, which looked like it bridged the story gap -- which appeared to bridge
as the name suggests–that story was severed and wasn’t told. -- either spaces around en dash or use an em dash
In the credits of the game compilation Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix, there were clips of the game Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance. There was also a secret ending related to Dream Drop Distance, hinting at a possible new Kingdom Hearts game compilation. -- I would copy edit to: The credits of the game compilation... include clips of the game... and a secret ending related...
Nomura stated in that same September -- Nomura stated that Square Enix...*
"sooner than later." -- MOS:LQ
The developer also intended to release the collection on the PlayStation 4. -- this could be merged with the first sentence of the paragraph
Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance is considered "number 2.6" -- this is the only one in quotes. make uniform?
The χ games, with the absence of Sora, are considered 0, while Birth by Sleep is 0.1, thus resulting in 0.2 for A Fragmentary Passage. -- this doesn't make sense to me
More in a bit. --truflip99 (talk) 17:32, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Here’s what I did so far. I made most of the corrections, a few things came up. The Japanese title for two of the three titles are here because they don’t exist anywhere else. Kingdom Hearts X is the article the game comes from, but this is basically a film created out of that game. And ‘’A Fragmentary Passage’’ is a new game, so it has a Japanese title too. Also, I tried to rewrite Nomura’s crazy numbering system, not sure if it makes more sense but take a look. Lastly, I thought we shouldn’t have citations if at all possible in the introduction, but do you want one anyway for the plot summary? Thanks. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Alright, then just omit the commas after the [a][b] notes as they don't need to be there. The citations shouldn't be in the lead, so since the plot summary is in the body it should be fine (and necessary).
Continuing:

The Kingdom Hearts χ games, because the series protagonist Sora does not appear, are considered 0 in Nomuras counting system, while Birth by Sleep is 0.1, thus resulting in a 0.2 value for A Fragmentary Passage. -- just copy edit this to: The Kingdom Hearts χ games are considered 0 in Nomuras counting system because the series protagonist Sora does not appear. Birth by Sleep is 0.1, thus resulting in a 0.2 value for A Fragmentary Passage.
and the games opening cinematics. -- games'*
Square Enix completed development on Kingdom Hearts III. -- of*
US Gamer referred to the games conversion from one optimized for a two-screen portable game system to a console one "lovely." -- games'* ; as* "lovely". (note period outside quotes)
Game Informer was also very impressed -- omit very (slight puffery)
such as populating the games "overly roomy, empty worlds." -- games'* ; MOS:LQ
US Gamer also praised the title A Fragmentary Passage for being a sort of tech demo of Kingdom Hearts III. -- dup link
Critics had very mixed feelings -- omit very
Jonathan Dornbush of IGN said that the collection is "A great glimpse at what’s to come, but the return to the past is an at-times unsatisfying appetizer." -- lower case 'A' and period outside quotes MOS:LQ
said that "Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8: Final Chapter Prologue is essential for the faithful, flummoxing for newcomers, and a promising start to the series’ life on PS4." -- saying* that...; MOS:LQ
"A solid game that definitely has an audience. Might lack replay value, could be too short and there are some hard-to-ignore faults, but the experience is fun." -- lc 'A'; MOS:LQ
Some reviewers did find things to praise about the collection, such as Push Square, -- Some reviewers such as Push Square*...
"devilishly fun." -- MOS:LQ
"good preparation for what’s ahead." -- MOS:LQ
"hard-to-follow gibberish with flashbacks, flashbacks within flashbacks." -- MOS:LQ
before the release of the at the time unreleased Kingdom Hearts III. -- dup link
More later. --truflip99 (talk) 17:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Truflip99: I believe I fixed this wave as well, should be no issues with these. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance takes place after the events of the game Kingdom Hearts Re:coded. Dream Drop Distance focuses on the protagonists' Sora and Rikus "Mark of Mastery" exam. In order to pass, the pair must free parallel worlds from evil and hone their powers in preparation for the return of the powerful and evil Master Xehanort. -- just need a ref for this and I'd be happy to make this GA. --truflip99 (talk) 03:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Truflip99: Ok, I think it’s all set! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 04:04, 29 May 2020 (UTC)