# Talk:Igor (album)

Tyler also released a sample for "A Boy is a Gun" prior to release. Snapplepapp (talk) 14:10, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. B dash (talk) 06:04, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Adding that two additional snippets were released on 05/13/19 in the leadup to the album, for "A Boy is a Gun"  and "New Magic Wand"  which featured Santigold. Manthanmachine (talk) 14:35, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sam Sailor 15:33, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Radi Machete2 (talk) 07:10, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: This is not an edit request. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 07:42, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Hey STATicVapor. I just read WP:Potentially unreliable sources and I been thinking, since the source is written by an unknown contributor of Forbes, should we removed the section off the article since the content is supported by an unreliable source. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 02:18, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

I could support that. StaticVapor message me! 17:25, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
@STATicVapor: Editor Nice4What added different sources in the section with this edit. What do you think of these sources? TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 16:41, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
I believe NME and possibly DjBooth qualify as reliable sources. One Forbes reference remains however. StaticVapor message me! 21:49, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
I initially added the whole "Themes and narrative" section and yes, the dissection of the opening track "Igor's Theme" only has the Forbes article cited. I'm hoping to find another reliable sources explains the song and the themes of the album before removing the paragraph. Nice4What (talk) 21:57, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

I believe that the section related to a review by Rowan5215 on a community based music review service should be removed. This is not a professional source, and as that has typically been the criteria for including reviews, this does not belong. JerryLandis (talk) 00:08, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

@JerryLandis: Sputnikmusic is an reliable source per WP:ALBUM/SOURCES. As long it is written by a staff and emeritus, it is classified as reliable. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 19:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 Not done Per TheAmazingPeanuts  comment. StaticVapor message me! 03:42, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

@TheAmazingPeanuts: To avoid an edit war, I just want to explain why I've bolded Apple Music Presents: Tyler, the Creator despite it not being in the lede. Going to Apple Music Presents: Tyler, the Creator redirects to the Promotion subsection of this article. See MOS:BOLDREDIRECT. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 21:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

@Nice4What: While I don't fully agreed that should be in bold text, but I let it be that way since it's in the guidelines. Sorry for the confusion. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 17:07, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

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Slovak peak #5 on Slovak album charts https://ifpicr.cz/hitparada/36?weekId=2582 2601:1C2:700:27AA:A447:8D3C:DB2D:186E (talk) 05:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Since I know my edit will get undeservedly reversed again, I'll just type this out now.
First of all, this very article is categorized as a pop music article on multiple accounts, if it's not a pop album, why even bother having those?
Secondly, Tyler (the artist behind this very album) has repeatedly started that this is a pop album and not a rap album and that very thing is sourced IN THIS ARTICLE.
Third of all, saying "we don't care" implies having a superiority complex, because what you're saying is, it doesn't matter what the person who created the thing says about the thing, what matters is what other people say. OTHER people are a reliable source... but not it coming from the horse's mouth. Even though SAID mouth is sourced AS SAYING IT'S A POP ALBUM. Other people (and the Grammys) describe it as a rap album, and Tyler is saying it's not. Why do other people who had nothing to do with the project matter, but the person who CREATED the project is tossed aside and we're supposed to act doesn't matter because "you" don't care about it??? 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 16:22, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Pinging @Binksternet: This editor don't know how genres work here. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 18:06, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Once again, this article and this talk page describes it as a pop album multiple times.  the point in even including those 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 18:10, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Then show me a source that explicitly called Igor a pop album, instead of going by what Tyler says. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 18:21, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Tyler's own assessment of the genre may be interesting to the reader but it does not define the topic. Per WP:SECONDARY, topics are defined by uninvolved observers evaluating the topic in reliable sources. That means music critics and journalists are the sources for genre.
Rolling Stone says the album is a mix of R&B, funk and rap. The notional source for pop genre, the Variety piece where Tyler is complaining about racism in the Grammy categories, is not necessarily about Igor's musical style as much as it is about Tyler as a Black artist getting pigeonholed.
If you want to add the pop genre, you will need to find a major publication saying the album is exactly that. See WP:EXPLICITGENRE. Binksternet (talk) 18:31, 6 February 2025 (UTC)