# Talk:Chandelure

The only thing that makes this Pokémon notable is the fact that it's hated, something that takes up a few paragraphs. The amount of modern Pokémon fans that hate or even care about this design is not enough to justify this article not being separated from another article. I understand that my argument here is based purely in opinion, but please, go to, i.e. a Pokémon Go meetup, or any other meetup of any casual Pokémon fans, and ask the people if they have an opinion on Chandelure. You'll find it's mostly the diehards or the very vocal who will tell you they hate this Pokémon, and there are not enough of those people to justify this. 
Yes, the references are filled with news articles putting this on the "most hated Pokémon" list but I really don't think that actually speaks to the notability of this Pokémon. You'll find an astonishing number of people do not actually care about this.
This should either be merged with List of Pokémon, or a new article should be made about the criticism of Pokémon. IoI xD (talk) 03:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

There's also the fact that if you were to make articles on Pokemon because "they're hated by some people", a good 100-200 articles would need to be made.
If anything, this should be turned into an article about the criticism of Pokemon IoI xD (talk) 03:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Well if you feel an AfD is necessary, do one. That's the more appropriate approach and platform. Keep in mind too though the reasoning you gave above isn't particularly great: you're basically trying to argue "it's not in the public consciousness", which isn't the point of wikipedia or notability. There are many characters that a lot of people couldn't pull out of a lineup, but have plenty of discussion and reaction from citeable sources. So if you're going in with that approach you're going to be very disappointed.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you actually read this article, but it's not just negative receptions, it also demonstrates that the Pokémon species additionally received positive receptions for its design and/or gameplay features. Hence, the lede literally states that it received a mixed reception. Notability can be demonstrated by significant commentary of a given entity, and general obscurity to the general public does not actually block it from notability on Wikipedia. PrimalMustelid (talk) 04:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Chandelure is my 3rd favorite though
Lucy LostWord (ILike Leavanny) 04:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Why do you make an article for him, but not Zekrom, Reshiram, Kyurem, Garbodor, Victini, Keldeo, Meloletta, or Genesect? If Bulbapedia exists, then why does this article deserve to? --PyukumukuAce (talk) 14:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

WP:GNG Chandelure has an article over those because it passes the general notability guidelines, but those do not. Simply being legendary or stinky isn't adequate. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)