# Talk:Mobile, Alabama

Please add the words "aircraft and" to the end of the second sentence under the "Museums" heading, as follows:
... a variety of historical military aircraft and equipment.
I would do this myself, but the page is protected.

Hurricane Frederick has since been upgraded to a category four when it struck Mobile Alabama. (Category 3 is incorrect)


### Mobile, Alabama
@Magnolia677 According to WP:USCITIES#Government, the councilmen for Mobile, Al should be included. Councilmen are only to be excluded for cities that serve short terms of 1 or 2 years; this does not apply to Mobile since they serve 4 years. Thus, the information does not become quickly out dated. EulerianTrail (talk) 19:24, 19 September 2025 (UTC)

@EulerianTrail: Could you please quote the part of the guideline that says that?  Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:36, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
It says "Avoid listing all city council members, because this information becomes obsolete fairly quickly since a subset of the members typically changes every 1 or 2 years" however this reasoning does not apply to Mobile because the information does not become obsolete quickly, the entire council remains the same for four years. If Mobile had council elections every year or every other year then I would agree to remove, but this is not the case. Mobile's city council elections are held every four years. EulerianTrail (talk) 14:35, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
The guideline was created by consensus by a number of editors, over a number of years.  I would suggest you either seek a consensus here, or go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline and propose a change to the guideline.  Or, try dispute resolution. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:04, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
Yes, the guideline has been created by numerous editors over the years. Thus, since the policy says to avoid listing all the councilmen for cities in which they frequently change, then we should add the list of councilmen back as it fits with the policy. EulerianTrail (talk) 20:19, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
The guideline simply does not say what you assert it says. There was a discussion about this recently at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline#Assistance needed with situation concerning disputed content..., and there was no consensus to change the guideline. Please note the comment there by User:Sbmeirow. Again, I urge you to seek a consensus to edit contrary to a highly used guideline. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:53, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
I suggest for you to reread the guideline as it specifically says to not list councilmen for cities because they commonly change 1 or 2 years; note that Mobile does not fall under this case. So, the guideline does not prohibit having the councilmen for Mobile as you are mistakenly suggesting.
The discussion that you linked is about a different issue: small towns vs large cities and wiki project guidelines vs Wikipedia rules. The only overlap is that it covers the same section. EulerianTrail (talk) 21:28, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
That section was included in the guideline three years ago by User:Sbmeirow, and has not been removed.  If you believe your personal interpretation is more correct, I suggest you start a discussion on the guideline talk page, where other editors can advise.  I also suggest you read WP:CON. --Magnolia677 (talk) 21:45, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
Will do. Could you clarify what your interpretation is since you are disagreeing with me? EulerianTrail (talk) 02:30, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
My interpretation is "Avoid listing all city council members". Magnolia677 (talk) 11:51, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
I would also lean towards omitting this. We just went through the page to update many things, and this is the kind of information that is both inevitably going to become out of date, while at the same time not being hugely important for an understanding of the city. Rjjiii (talk) 16:28, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Then should we also remove the information about the mayors? EulerianTrail (talk) 16:30, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

I noted that Shomari Figures represents Alabama in the Notable people list as the two other representatives, Sanford Bishop and Jerry Carl, are also noted where they represent. Noting where Figures represents removes ambiguity, but I did not specify that Figures represents the 2nd district as that seemed unnecessary. Reverting noting that Figures represents Alabama in the House of Representatives while saying it is too much detail, leaving Bishop and Carl untouched, and also noting that Figures specifically represents the 2nd district does not make sense. Raskuly (talk) 05:34, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

I ended up moving missing notables to the standalone List of people from Mobile, Alabama which was being neglected because of the format of the article and simply linking the list article. I see no reason why to have another standalone list here for which we already have a dedicated article for it and it encourages a divergence as many editors may not realize there is a standalone article since it linked under See also. Raskuly (talk) 06:01, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
EulerianTrail, what are your thoughts? I wonder if there might be enough overlap on some of these notable figures that we could do a paragraph or so of prose here. I think that is how some featured articles on places handle the situation. Rjjiii (talk) 07:14, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
According to WP:USCITIES Notable people section there should be a section in prose for articles that are GA or FA. The section should be still on the page with greater details at the list article according to WP:SUMMARY. I will revert the removal of the list since there appears to be no policy or guideline that supports outright removal. I will write it in prose when I have more time. This week is busy for me. EulerianTrail (talk) 17:55, 16 November 2025 (UTC)