# Talk:Callie Torres

I have changed the title sentence from "Dr. Calliope..." to "Calliope..." based on the Wikipedia style manual for biographies, which dictates that academic or professional titles should not precede the individual's name in the article. I also checked with the Wikipedia articles on several real-life physicians to verify that this was the convention in use. The body of the article and the infobox provide sufficient evidence of Callie's possession of a M.D. degree. DarkandTwisty29 18:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I changed the title sentence and info box title from Torres to O'Malley as this is what she is currently being called(as of My Favorite Mistake). I also suggest that one should be redirected to this page when 'Callie O'Malley'is entered in 'search'.
Littlechef 00:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree with changing all of the "Torres" references to O'Malley.  This has been discussed on the Grey's Anatomy and List of characters from Grey's Anatomy talk pages, although it hasn't been an issue on this article before.  Several characters have casually referred to the couple as "The O'Malleys" and Callie as "Callie O'Malley", but professionally and probably legally (despite the soundtrack of the most recent episode--"My Favorite Mistake") she is still Callie Torres.  Her medical license would be in the "Torres" name, so until and unless she went through the arduous and long process of changing it, she would have to practice medicine as Callie Torres.  There is certainly precedent for female surgeons retaining their "maiden" names upon marriage--Miranda Bailey's husband is a Jones, and even Addison hyphenated her last name prior to her divorce.  In addition, Callie's labcoat in "My Favorite Mistake" still reads "Callie Torres M.D."--when Addison's character name changed to Addison Montgomery, she also got a new labcoat.  Callie seems to still be using Torres, aside from the casual "Callie O'Malley" nicknaming. DarkandTwisty29 03:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough, though Dr. Bailey addressed her as "Dr. O'Malley". 
Littlechef 18:23, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

As of episode "Testing 1-2-3", Callie is still called "Dr. Torres", so I'm changing it back on the main page. DarkandTwisty29 05:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Is it?  She says  "I to believe in God and in marriage and in heaven and hell" "But you don't anymore?" "I believe in love and second chances, and that even though George wasn't the one for me it was OK that I believed that he was because well for a little while at least I got to be an O'Malley" She doesn't answer Mrs O'Malley's question about her belief in God, heaven and hell only her beliefs about marriage and the value of her relationship with George.  She may indeed be an atheist but this conversation hardly qualifies as proof.  Furthermore in episode 5 of season six when confronting her father's use of the bible to condemn her sexuality she quotes Jesus extensively and finishes with  "Jesus is my saviour daddy not you and jesus would be ashamed of you for judging me, he would be ashamed of you for turning your back on me, he would be ashamed." Anlbe (talk) 23:17, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

You may see in other Grey's Anatomy's character pages that I had put this tag:

I want to improve these articles so I'm asking for those willing to help to find sources to back up these information. Omghgomg 12:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Is Callie's middle name spelled Iphigenia or Iphegenia? On the main Grey's page it's spelled with an "i", but on the Callie Torres page it's spelled with an "e". I looked the name up on various baby name sites, and it's always spelled "Iphigenia". I haven't been able to find it spelled with an "e" anywhere. Rainbow 23:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I added the template because of sentences like: "...the two seemed destined to become friends...". Don't speculate about the character becoming "friend" or "best friend" with another character, unless it can be backed up with a verifiable source. 17:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the name "Calliope Iphegenia" is just because her parents are into mythology or something. So far as I know it's pretty strongly indicated she is from a wealthy Hispanic family. Also "Torres" is not, so far as I know, a Greek name.--T. Anthony (talk) 15:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

...featured in My Favorite Mistake [1] (Season 3 Episode 19), don't think they mentioned his first name but he should be put in the side bar along with relatives because he did actually appear on-screen ..btw he was played by Hector Elizondo Nisior (talk) 00:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

The season description for season two and three is wrong. George start seeing Callie and finds out she lives in the basement in season 2. They break up at the very end of season 2 during the 'prom'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.65.71.105 (talk) 19:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC) 

Hi all, I don't recall after the Callie/Arizona wedding that they took hyphenated last names. She is still referred to as "Dr. Torres" in subsequent episodes.  Therefore, in the infobox, Callie's last name should remain solely Torres unless this is addressed on the show. Sfufan2005 (talk) 16:00, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I have changed Callie's titled and status to reflect her current position at the hospital.  Callie is not a member of F.A.C.S.  She has been working as an attending for almost two full seasons, but her status has not changed during that time.  Besides completing residency, there are other requirements for membership that she has not yet met.  It is best to leave the information out until her membership has been absolutely confirmed, which means the "F.A.C.S." appears on her lab coat.  I suspect this will happen when Season Eight promo pictures are released, but her information should not be changed beforehand.  Additionally, she is not the Head of Orthopedic Surgery.  Dr. Chang was last mentioned in 6.01/2 when Callie was denied her position as a regular attending as not retiring for a while because his 401K dipped and he put off retirement, which was not mentioned again during the rest of Season Six and Season Seven.  Until it is mentioned in an episode, Callie is not the head of her department and the information should really reflect that until it does change.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.197.98 (talk) 10:18, 21 July 2011 (UTC) 

It says Dr. Chang retired a year after his 401k which would mean he retired in Season 7 episode 2. Which makes her the head. She is a a member of F.A.C.S. as she got her job as an attending surgeon which means the surgeon has been evaluated. My brother-in-law is an attending surgeon in Ohio and when he became one he had to be a member of F.A.C.S. as does every other attending surgeon. The title attending can only be given to F.A.C.S. members. A significant other is not just a boyfriend/girlfriend. The definition states otherwise. Therefore, Alex Karev (her ex- sex partner) and Mark Sloan (her daughter's FATHER) are considered significant others. Please stop changing these edits as they specify wrong information. TRLIJC19 (talk) 04:36, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

This is incorrect information. The position of attending is hospital-based. A hospital rank and role is not mutually inclusive of membership in the American College of Surgeons. Membership in the ACS is voluntary, and although most hospitals have a running trend of hiring surgical attendings with such affiliations, it is not a requirement. Furthermore, giving Callie Torres this title is original research as canon has not stated that Callie has attained the title of Fellow within the ACS nor has she been mentioned as the Chief of Orthopedic Surgery. Original research is not credible, and until the show or any credible source has mentioned this, Callie should be not be listed as having FACS as post-nominal letters or mentioned as the head or chief of her respective surgical department.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.42.93 (talk) 03:50, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Why don't you make an account and stop trying to make significant false changes as an anonymous.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 04:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

This is not false changes. You are violating wikipedia policies by changing articles based on OR. If you can cite a credible source or something in canon that states that the character has attained Fellow title in the ACS or is the department of orthopedic surgery WITHOUT transitory theory or conjecture, then what you are posting are false. Also, 7x02 makes no reference to Dr. Cheng whatsoever, and unless a character, a writer, or a credible synposis states that Callie is the head of ortho, then what you are posting is false and will be undone.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.42.93 (talk) 05:04, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

You do not even have an account. You must be a member of F.A.C.S. to become an attending and it has been made clear that Callie is head of ortho due to Dr. Changs retirement. Do not talk to me about Wiki policies when you don't even have an account. You are not credited at all. Please stop vandalizing. TRLIJC19 (talk) 05:09, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I don't need an account to point out when a user is trying to pass off OR as actual fact. First, you cannot be a member of FACS as FACS is not an organization: ACS is. FACS are the letters one receives as a Fellow of the ACS; please get that correct. Second, you are still not citing credible sources to justify the character's post-nominal letters other than stating that because she's an attending, she is a member of the ACS. As I've stated, it is NOT a requirement for a hospital to have attendings as part of the ACS as a hospital has more specialities than just surgical ones, as non-surgical speicalities (cardiologiss, endcrinologists, anthestiologists, pediatricians, etc.) who have attending positions will not be able to gain membership as a fellow in the ACS as they are NOT surgeons. Furthermore, 7x02 makes no reference to Chang's retirement nor does Shonda, her writers, or any other CREDIBLE source state that Callie now the dept head of ortho. Until you can come up with citations other than OR, you cannot state that on her page. 71.194.42.93 (talk) 05:24, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 www.otherpapers.com does not look like it is a WP:RS so have removed the "claim". Mtking (edits)  05:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Don't tell me what to do anony. Dont tell me to get anything right. I dont need snob talk on Wikipedia. And I recognize now your point on this topic but not others.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 29 August 2011 (UTC) 

So even after you see my point, you continue to impose non-credible sources and OR to character articles? What you are doing is against WP policy as you are presenting OR as fact when it is anything but. 71.194.42.93 (talk) 05:45, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Callie Torres/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: M.Mario (talk · contribs) 18:47, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


### Disambig, Refs & External
There are three disambig's, please fix them.
IMDb is an unreliable source, can you find an alternative?
I don't see IMDb anywhere in the article? TRLIJC19 (talk) 18:28, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Make sure you are linking all works in the references, as well as adding full publishers. — M.Mario (T/C)  17:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Also Callie is part of the category of characters from Florida, however there is no mention of this throughout the article. — M.Mario (T/C)  19:44, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure she's not from Florida, so I've removed the category. TRLIJC19 (talk) 05:17, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


### Infobx
Only put "Callie Torres" at the top of the infobox, not her long name which is barely mentioned.
I wouldnt really call "Callie" as an "alias".


### Lead
"and is portrayed by actress Sara Ramírez" -> obvious she is an actress, not needed.
"with a love interest in intern George O'Malley (T.R. Knight)" -> as a love interest for intern George O'Malley (T.R. Knight).
"Eventually named an attending orthopedic surgeon" -> Eventually becoming an attending orthopedic surgeon.
"originally contracted to appear as a recurring character" -> originally contracted to appear on a recurring basis.
"but received star billing in the third season" -> Link star billing to Billing (filmmaking)#Main billing
"but received star billing in the third season" -> Link "third season" to Grey's Anatomy (season 3).
"The fictional character was initially conceived as a love interest" -> Wierd phrase. Maybe; Callie was initially conceived as a love interest..."
"being disliked by the hospital's residents" -> and was created to be disliked by her colleagues?
 "which leads to the birth of their child, Sofia" -> Huh? How? Was it an affair? Make clearer.
"Hahn as well as Robbins, was praised among critics" -> Hahn and Robbins, was praised among critics.
 Done, I've addressed all issues listed above. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:45, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


### Plot
Why are your reffering to characters by their surnames?

Please read WP:SURNAME; after you mention a character's name, you use their surname thereafter. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Comment. I'm pretty sure WP:SURNAME only refers to living people, not fictional characters. It's part of the MoS for biographies, not fiction. - JuneGloom  Talk 19:09, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
There is definitely an inconsistency with using last name usage or first name on fictional articles. I looked through some featured character/episode articles to try to see what the standard is, but as I said; it is inconsistent. For example, Jack Sparrow primarily refers to the character by last name throughout the article, whereas Jason Voorhees uses first name usage. Martin Keamy, House (TV series) and Pilot (House) also use last names, after first mention. The Simpsons uses first names, but probably because most main characters hold the same last name. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:21, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
"Callie Torres is introduced as an orthopedic surgeon with a crush on intern George O'Malley (T.R. Knight)" -> Just use Callie here, already introduced her.
Yes, I introduced her in the lead. You introduce in the lead, and then the article itself. The lead is a summary of the article. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
"They begin dating, and he becomes uncomfortable with the rate at which their relationship is progressing, so Torres moves into a hotel" -> The two start a relationship and Callie moves in to George's house/flat/apartment. Uneased at the way their relationship is progressing, he confronts her, which results in Callie moving into a hotel.
"In the aftermath of the breakup, she meets and has a one-night-stand with plastic surgeon Mark Sloan (Eric Dane), who becomes her friend" -> In the aftermath of the breakup, she meets and has a one-night-stand with plastic surgeon Mark Sloan (Eric Dane), who she later become friends with, due to this.
It's fine. The way you want it is awkward and unnecessary. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
on the spur of the moment" -> I am not sure about this, but cannot think of alternative.
That is what it was. It was on the spur of the moment. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
"Torres and O'Malley reconcile, but she remains unaware of his sexual encounter." -> repition of previous line
"Though her personal life is troubled, Torres thrives professionally when she is appointed as the hospital's Chief Resident" -> Although she is upset from the breakup, Torres is appointed the hospital's chief resident -> no opinons.
Again, there's nothing wrong with that sentence. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
"pediatric surgeon Arizona Robbins (Jessica Capshaw), kisses her" -> Short sentence -> pediatric surgeon Arizona Robbins (Jessica Capshaw), kisses her, which results in the two starting a relationship.
though their relationship is tested when Torres comes out to her father, Carlos. He is unsupportive, and cuts her off financially and emotionally" -> Per previous point, -> Their relationship is tested when Torres comes out to her father, Carlos, who disowns her, cutting her off both financially and emotionally.
"and when the two hospitals merge" -> Why?
That is irrelevant to her overall storyline. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
"but ultimately he is able to accept her" -> but ultimately accepts her sexuality.
"When Torres explains her desire to bear children" -> When Callie reinstates her desire to have children.
It was never mentioned before, so 'reinstates' doesn't make sense. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
"a disgruntled Torres agrees to move there with her" -> No opinions.
Again, nothing wrong with that sentence; it best describes what happened. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
"A heartbroken Torres moves in with Sloan, and they have a one-night stand" -> "A heartbroken Torres moves in with Sloan, and they once again have a one-night stand.
That sounds awkward, it is fine how it is. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
"Torres is subsequently mended, and agrees to marry Robbins" -> Callie survives, and agrees to marry Arizona.
"mother's attitude toward the wedding and her granddaughter in "White Wedding" -> Need actress of her mother here, and first mention of an episode in the plot- remove.
"and Robbins marry in a garden after the minister's wife is laid up at the hospital and general surgeon Miranda Bailey (Chandra Wilson), officiates the ceremony." -> and Arizona marry in a garden after the minister's wife falls ill, with general surgeon Miranda Bailey (Chandra Wilson), officiating the ceremony.
Comment: First of all, the surname after first mention is a part of the MOS; linked above. You are being very picky about prose, and asking me to do things against MOS, when there is nothing wrong with it. It satisfies criterion 1A and B, and you are just asking me change sentences, to have them read as you personally desire. I've addressed several valid prose issues but some are just outright ridiculous. TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Well I do apologize if you feel I was being too picky. I was just pointing out parts which I felt as a reader, were not the best wrote. (I guess it opinions). Anyway, the rest of the article looks very good, so there wont be near enough comments being made! — M.Mario (T/C)  20:29, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I came off as rude (tough day). TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
No you didnt, I think its good that sometimes the nominators say they do not like something, as normally at GA's the reviewers control them ;)  I will get on with the rest of the review tommorow. — M.Mario (T/C)  20:33, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for reviewing! TRLIJC19 (talk) 20:34, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


### Development
Im not sure about the quote in the box; its not really very informative, it just tells the reader how she has to make an effort to mkae friends with her castmates. I would maybe swap that with the other quote (with the purple punctuation marks) a this gives the reader a bit more information than the previous.
"having been conceived as a love interest for George O'Malley" -> having been conceived as a love interest for George O'Malley (Knight) - this allows the reader to remember the actor, as he is mentioned in the first line of the Plot.
"alongside fellow cast member, Eric Dane (Mark Sloan)" -> alongside fellow cast member Dane, who plays Mark Sloan -> like previous line.
None of "Characterization" is actually characterization, change to "Storyline Development" or; "Relationship with Erica Hahn" and "Relationship with Arizonna Robbins".
 Not done, All Grey's Anatomy characters pages are standardized, and 'characterization' is what is used. Characterization is synonymous with 'personality'. Relationships are a branch of personality. TRLIJC19 (talk) 18:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
"due to her getting in the way of O'Malley and Grey's relationship" -> You need to link Meredith Grey and add actress name, as you have not mentioned her before.
"The end of the show's fourth season saw Torres grow closer to cardiothoracic surgeon Erica Hahn" -> Link fourth season.
""Callica" by Entertainment Weekly" -> Entertainment Weekly did not say this, a author from Entertainment Weekly did. This also needs to be fixed for all other mentions to newspapers or online websites.
 Not done, I don't know what you mean; the writer represents Entertainment Weekly. And what do you mean by "other mentions", when is it mentioned again? TRLIJC19 (talk) 18:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
"GLAAD on Torres' bisexual storyline" -> link and do not put into abbreviations, as you have not mentioned in yet.
"In the show's fifth season, Torres embarked on a relationship with Arizona Robbins" -> Link fifth season and put Arizona Robbins (Capshaw)
"The relationship between the two is referred to by the portmanteau "Calzona"" -> Isnt Callica a portmanteau too? That means you need to link portmanteau up there, and unlink in this sentence.
"to that between the show's primary couple Meredith Grey and Derek Shepherd" -> Add actor of Derek, only Grey is needed now.
 "The couple ultimately decided to begin a relationship, however, the two experienced difficulties, but eventually reunited" -> The couple ultimately decided to begin a relationship, however, the two experience difficulties, but eventually reunite - Tense Issues.
"Rhimes has mentioned of their relationship in the sixth season" -> Link sixth season
The image does not reflect the whole article, as this actor has not been mentioned before. I would think it would be better for readers to have a image of Rhimes or Ramirez. I think you should use an image of Ramirez, using the final line of the development section as the caption. — M.Mario (T/C)  17:21, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Most done, except some which one which I disagree with, and one that I'm not sure of what you're asking for. TRLIJC19 (talk) 18:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Well what you are doing at the moment is by saying AfterEllen said this, your personifying the website. Try to avoid this, and say (so and so from AfterEllen said....) — M.Mario (T/C)  19:26, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 Done TRLIJC19 (talk) 05:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


### Reception
Unlink Greys Anatomy.
"Commenting on Hahn's abrupt departure from the show, Dorothy Snarker, writing for LGBT website" -> Where is the comment?
It reads: "Commenting on Hahn's abrupt departure from the show, Dorothy Snarker, writing for LGBT website, AfterEllen.com, observed of Torres and Robbin's relationship: [...]". The sentence is saying Snarker of the LGBT website (AfterEllen.com) observed... Get it? TRLIJC19 (talk) 05:22, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
"and referred to her performance in "Grace" as "beautiful" -> and referred to her performance of Kate Havnevik's "Grace" as "beautiful""

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 
Finish points on Reception and personification of websites, then complete.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
This article makes use of a wide range of academic sources.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 
There was a few, however all IP' have been warned or blocked.
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

All issues are addressed. Thanks for reviewing, TRLIJC19 (talk) 05:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Congrats! You have achieved GA status. — M.Mario (T/C)  21:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hi - I added the AI-generated tag here, as the edits by AlphaBetaGamma123, here and elsewhere, display many indications of likely LLM use and thus need review for accuracy, source-to-text integrity, original research, synthesis, other tone issues, etc. (They're blocked for sockpuppeting so cannot weigh in or confirm whether AI was used.) Gnomingstuff (talk) 05:54, 4 November 2025 (UTC)