# Talk:Mimikyu

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The paragraph about the origins of the videogames and an explanation of the wider franchise seems out of place and doesn't necessarily lend any context to Mimikyu's design. Seems it could be removed—thoughts? Griseo veritas (talk) 10:17, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

It helps establish terms and concepts related to the series which factors into design.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:38, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Kung Fu Man stated in a recent edit summary that eschewing the SFN format for paginated references is not simply a matter of preference, but also a matter of consensus. However, there has been no discussion on this talk page establishing such a consensus. It's possible Kung Fu Man meant to refer to other articles, but as our community guideline for citing sources states, Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style, merely [...] to make it match other articles. This is not a requirement of the Manual of Style, as Kung Fu Man said, but of a Wikipedia guideline. Variation in citation style across articles is accepted on Wikipedia.
Additionally, Kung Fu Man stated that no other articles in this sort use that style of ref formatting, even in featured articles; however, if "this sort" means video game topic articles, that's not true: Magnavox Odyssey and Wii both use the citation style of providing paginated shortened footnotes (SFNs) for sources with page numbers but no such shortened notes for short-form sources without page numbers. If "this sort" means fictional character articles, Kenneth Widmerpool uses this format.
As such, I propose restoring the article to its status quo ante before Kung Fu Man's alteration to the citation format such that sources with page numbers are cited with paginated shortened footnotes, and sources without page numbers are cited without such.  Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 18:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

You're arguing that there's no consensus, but I'm not seeing a consensus *for* this sort citation structure. What's your reasoning for them to be like this? Because I can at least argue it makes the page harder to maintain and is unnecessary given the length, usage of citations, or number of citations of this sort.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:16, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
This citation style was suggested during the GA review (visible further up the page) and then adopted/implemented by the nominator. As for reasoning, it makes the page more evergreen. If it ever happened that later, citing content from elsewhere in Millennial Monsters would be useful in the article, it's much more possible to do that if all it takes is adding another SFN with a different page number or range. It also makes the page easier for readers and fellow editors to verify, as rather than have to read the entire "Gotta Face 'Em All" article, one can go straight to the indicated page number. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 19:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
For the sake of argument, Millenial focuses on the encompassing detail regarding how elements of the franchise works, not the subject in question (Mimikyu). I'm still standing by my above reasonings mind you, but this by itself is another matter to consider when a "Further reading" section gives the impression that more information on Mimikyu can be found in that book, yes?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
I do think the "Further reading" section (that section title was not added by myself or the nominator) was misnamed. It would have been better as "sources".
While the book at the moment probably won't be cited for more information about Mimikyu, if hypothetically Mimikyu gained an evolution in a future region, additional parts of Millennial Monsters that explain what evolution is could reasonably be cited. The "Gotta Face 'Em All" article does have more content about Mimikyu that could plausibly be cited by someone who gets a good idea for how to accurately and adequately summarize the material. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 06:04, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

I wanted to add info about this and gave its source- the Pokédex (and even which games they’re from) but it keeps being removed. I’m new to editing wiki so I wasn’t aware a discussion place existed in the article. I’m unsure as to why it keeps getting removed because the lore is stated in the official entries. TheMimikyuLover (talk) 21:03, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

@TheMimikyuLover you'll need to cite a reliable source directly in the article. For video game topics, a list of reliable sources can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. This is for the sake of verifiability, so that information can be corroborated by another source and shown to be accurate if someone unfamiliar with the series were to check where this info is coming from. Hope this helps! Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 21:21, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
I do, I say every game that shows the entries that relate to the info, is there something I’m not understanding? TheMimikyuLover (talk) 22:25, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
You need to include a citation to this (Those little number things at the end of a sentence). Saying in the text where it's from does not verify its content, per Wikipedia:Verifiability.  Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 22:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Ohhhh ok, thank you so much! TheMimikyuLover (talk) 22:56, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
@TheMimikyuLover: Keep in mind too that information has to have some relevance to the subject in how it was received to really stick, or be vital to understanding it. Like Raichu storing energy in its cheeks, or how Haunter's tongue affected how people saw it in the games as horrifying. Going into too much detail veers into cruft. For such cases, a secondary source would help plenty also (i.e. a reliable source discussing it or commenting about it)--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:58, 22 February 2025 (UTC)