# Talk:Malaysia

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"...the constitution grants freedom of religion to non-Muslims."
conversely Malaysian muslim is vice versa (i.e. lacks freedom of religion)
is this true.
talk to the persons we can trust.
@Golem08 @M.Bitton 182.253.54.70 (talk) 08:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Please quote the other relevant text that you think is contradicting the first (assuming that's what you're suggesting). M.Bitton (talk) 02:14, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
I assume that the person refers to the fact that it is impossible to leave Islam in Malaysia, as explained here. First, conversion from Islam is considered an Islamic religious matter and thus the prerogative of Shariah courts, which do not grant permission to convert, because Shariah does not allow leaving Islam; and second, ethnic Malays are prohibited from leaving Islam, because the constitution defines ethnic Malays as Muslim. So by 'freedom of religion to non-Muslims', Malaysian law does not mean the right to choose not to be Muslim, but only the right to remain non-Muslim if you have never been Muslim. I suppose you could argue that it grants 'freedom of religion to non-Muslims' as long as you define as a 'non-Muslim' only someone who has never been Muslim; but since many or most people would not agree with this definition of 'non-Muslim', a more accurate wording would probably be a quote from the constitution, or saying that the constitution claims to grant freedom of religion to non-Muslims.--62.73.72.101 (talk) 14:43, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

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