# Talk:HMS Heroine (1783)

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Nominator: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 19:44, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Ykraps (talk · contribs) 16:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Hope to look this over at the weekend. In the meantime...

At the start of the French Revolutionary Wars in 1793 Heroine was one of the two largest of the forty-four ships of her type in service with the Royal Navy. What does 'type' mean in this case? 32-gun frigate? --Ykraps (talk) 16:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
I 'm asking because HMS Latona was in service in January 1793. Or is Gardiner referring to April 1792, when he talks about the start of the war (as opposed to when Britain became involved)? --Ykraps (talk) 06:53, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Comma after 1793? --Ykraps (talk) 06:53, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
I think yes, but P-C may not agree when they come back - up to them I suppose
The 220 figure is the full complement so I tend to stress this by adding 'when fully manned' or something similar. It’s possible that she never had 220 on board. --Ykraps (talk) 06:53, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Concur as well, added
Link Portsmouth. --Ykraps (talk) 07:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Done
With war with Spain a possibility over ownership of Nootka Sound, the frigate joined a fleet sailing in the English Channel. This continued for several months until Spain renounced possession. I might be being a bit pedantic here, and feel free to say so, but this reads a little like the frigate continued joining the fleet. What about 'With war with Spain a possibility, the frigate joined a fleet sailing in the English Channel. The controversy over ownership of Nootka Sound continued for several months until Spain renounced possession'. Or something similar? --Ykraps (talk) 06:53, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
I think that sounds fine - P-C can make any tweaks when they return.
Not really necessary for GA but you could add something about the value of the sugar islands and Britain's strategy in the Caribbean. --Ykraps (talk) 06:53, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
I think it’s more correct to say based on rather than based off but I’m no expert so up to you. --Ykraps (talk) 06:53, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
I agree, so switched, but it may be an American/British thing
I don't think you would refer to the Prince of Orange simply as Orange. Orange is a principality rather than a name. I could be wrong of course so you could check with Wikipedia:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility or perhaps just refer to him as the prince? --Ykraps (talk) 05:57, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
I was taught to put a comma after a date at the beginning of a sentence. If this is still the done thing, commas after 5 February 1795, and any other examples you find. --Ykraps (talk) 07:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
That's my understanding as well - should have caught them all, but let me know if I missed one
I would also put parenthetical commas around 'on 15 January 1796'. I'm aware comma usage has changed since I was at school though, so if you know different, fair enough. --Ykraps (talk) 07:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Agreed - don't know when you went to school, but that's my sense too
Link Good Hope Station to Commander-in-Chief, Africa (Royal Navy) perhaps? --Ykraps (talk) 07:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Cape of Good Hope Station redirects there
I'm not sure 'repeating frigate' is a term understood by the layman. Perhaps say 'tasked with repeating signals' instead? --Ykraps (talk) 07:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Agree that it wouldn't be easily understood - implemented your suggestion
I think court-martialled is hyphenated. --Ykraps (talk) 07:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Corrected
Sources are reliable, in-line citations throughout (no spotchecks done), all images are licensed. I think that's all I've got. --Ykraps (talk) 07:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Just to note, Pickersgill-Cunliffe is having some health issues - dunno if you want to leave the nomination open in the hopes they return soon, or archive it. But I wanted to make sure you knew what was going on. Parsecboy (talk) 17:52, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
Actually, on second thought, I went through and addressed most of the above, except for a couple I don't have the sources for, or in the case of the Prince of Orange, don't feel competent to answer ;) Parsecboy (talk) 19:21, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
@Parsecboy: Thanks for the heads up and for your help with this review. I've addressed the other points so I think this can be passed now. --Ykraps (talk) 06:52, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
@Parsecboy: @Ykraps: Hi both, thank you very much for plugging on with this despite my absence. I would have been perfectly understanding had you failed it, so your efforts were very kind - and appreciated! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 18:57, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
(Feel free to claim this as a shared GA if you like!) Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 18:57, 16 October 2025 (UTC)