# Talk:Doug Ring

Can be found here -- Mattinbgn\talk 09:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

And the Telegraph -- Mattinbgn\talk 09:22, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I am proposing that Doug Ring with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948 be merged into this article. While Mr. Ring is unquestionably notable, numerous editors have expressed concerns about the notability of his performance at the one event the other article covers, see [1]. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:31, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

I agree that Ring's participation was probably not significant enough to warrant its own article. However, I think it might be better to let FAR run its course first before attempting a merge. Running two concurrent discussions about the topic's future status will likely lead to more confusion, in my opinion. Once FAR (and, if applicable, FARC) has run its course, I would be happy to resume this discussion. RunningTiger123 (talk) 17:57, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
I was primarily motivated to open up a merger discussion per User:Sdkb's comments at the FAR [2], which I agree with. FAR is not meant to decide if an article should continue to exist in its current form. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:01, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
I suppose that's fair. I just didn't think it was worth conducting two separate discussions simultaneously, but there seems to be enough notice at the FAR page now that discussion there will be redirected here. RunningTiger123 (talk) 21:26, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
If it were to be merged, and I'm not sure it should actually, it would need to be an extremely selective merge. There's already information about the 48 tour in the Ring article. We'd be in danger of intriguing massive amount of over detail into the body of that article. Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:20, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Well, the alternative is to take Doug Ring with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948 to AfD, which I personally did not feel comfortable doing. I agree that a merger would have to be fairly selective in what content is merged versus just deleted. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:26, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
To the extent that there might be, well, no content merged across? I think AfD might perhaps (possibly - can I caveat that I'm not entirely sure?) be better here - it will go out to a wider audience. A merge is a reasonable end result from that. Blue Square Thing (talk) 21:24, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Blue Square Thing raises good points, and I would support a move to AfD. Going to AfD would give us more options while not ruling out the options discussed here. RunningTiger123 (talk) 21:28, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
@Blue Square Thing: @RunningTiger123: I have started an AfD nomination Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doug Ring with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948 (2nd nomination). Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:53, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
As the AfD has concluded with a selective merge result, this will clearly need actioning at some point, preferably by someone with a background in cricket articles. I'm rather caught up with Azeem Rafiq at present so won't be able to action anything very much in respect of this article for at least a week - although I note that the whole article could use a bit of cleanup. Perhaps someone else will step in and do the necessary. If they don't then I will try and remember to try to get to this - but that might take a little while. Blue Square Thing (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
It has been several weeks now; unless someone steps up to complete the merge, I will redirect, and let others merge the content from history.  I don’t feel qualified to tackle the merge myself, since I don’t understand the topic, and don’t want to mess up this GA.  I can’t even decipher what to merge where, but the redirect needs to be done per the AFD.  SandyGeorgia (Talk)  09:08, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doug Ring with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948 (2nd nomination), the content to be considered for merger is below.  As three weeks have passed since the AFD closed, I have added the redirect.  SandyGeorgia (Talk)  20:54, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@Blue Square Thing, Trainsandotherthings,  and RunningTiger123: Just a reminder to those who are interested in this that despite AfD consensus there has still not been any merger of page content from Doug Ring with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948 to here. I'm happy to help, but as I am not a regular editor of cricket-related articles I think others are more qualified to make the relevant judgement calls. Felix QW (talk) 12:20, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
@Felix QW: My knowledge of the insects called crickets is far greater than my knowledge of the sport of cricket. I'd be a terrible candidate for performing the merger. With that said, all that really needs merging is some of the "role" section, the rest is just a bunch of statistics that aren't worthwhile. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 13:14, 29 March 2022 (UTC)