# Talk:French ironclad Jemmapes

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Nominator: Simongraham (talk · contribs) 23:50, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Parsecboy (talk · contribs) 12:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
I'll take this one for review. Parsecboy (talk) 12:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

There are a couple of dupe links in the article - User:Evad37/duplinks-alt is a handy tool if you don't have it
Fixed Brest and the link in a conversion.
Fix rounding for length and draft in the box
Draft figures don't match between box and text (and IMO draft to the millimeter is excessively precise)
Rounded 6.7073 to 6.71 so that there are the same number of number of significant figures as the other dimensions.
Which de Bussy designed the ship? There were apparently two active at the time, Louis de Bussy (who designed, among other ships, the Dévastation class) and Marie de Bussy (who designed several cruisers of the period, such as the Troude class).
It was Louis. Added.
Text says the ship was armed with 274mm guns, but the box says 340mm - please correct whichever is wrong (and link the gun in the box)
It is 340 mm. Corrected.
Link Secondary armament
Added.
I don't have Roberts in front of me at the moment, but from the snippets available in Google Books, Jemmapes had trouble steaming over 13 knots due to the bow wave created (unfortunately, the snip doesn't have a page number I can point you toward)
Roberts states that "at speeds over 13 knots it created a bow wave that over 15 knots became an almost insurmountable barrier, any additional coal burned beyond that being almost totally wasted." In the article, this is "In service, speed was restricted as a bow wave was created at 13 knots (24 km/h; 15 mph) which, by 15 knots (28 km/h; 17 mph) became impossible to push forward, meaning this became the de facto maximum speed."
Relatedly, there's a mention that guns from Jemmapes were rebored as howizters during the war
Jemmapes's activities during the 1900 maneuvers are discussed here, on pages 44-45, including boiler troubles
Added.
According to page 60 of the 1903 Brassey's, the ship was decommissioned that year
Added.
Page 1188 of the Journal of the RUSI mentions repairs conducted in 1903, along with the results of trials later that year (you can crib the full citation from French cruiser Tage
Added.
Pages 1348 and 1349 here detail trials with submarines in 1902 (which saw Jemmapes "torpedoed"). The same volume details the naval maneuvers of 1902, in which Jemmapes took part, beginning on page 1436
Added.
According to page 1325 here, Jemmapes was moved to Toulon in 1898
Added.
File:Jemmapes (1892).jpg - info is insufficient to determine copyright status in France or the US - we need a date of publication for the latter at a minimum
Removed.
This photo is available at history.navy.mil
File:Jemmapes - Brassey's Naval Annual 1896.png could also be used (I cleaned up the copyright tags there)
Good idea. Replaced the image in the inbox with this one.
Think that's it for now. Parsecboy (talk) 14:23, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Parsecboy: Thank you for an excellent and thorough review, I have made some edits that I hope will improve the article. Please take a look and ping me if there is anything I can add. simongraham (talk) 14:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
Looks good to me - the only further suggestion I'd make is adding the ventilation problem described during the 1903 trials (I try to include stuff like this, as it gives sense of the human element, and also design faults are worth including) - but it's up to you, and I won't hope up passing the article. Nice work! Parsecboy (talk) 19:33, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
@Parsecboy: Thank you for your review and also for your work to improve this article more generally. I am aware how often article improvement can be a lonely task and your attitude is a breath of fresh air. simongraham (talk) 15:21, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
Thanks Simon, I appreciate it! Parsecboy (talk) 17:50, 16 May 2025 (UTC)