# Talk:Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009

I want to get this article up to GA standards, so I will leave a list of good references to use here. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

comparing to ricky martin, performance desc
bookmakers estimate 2nd place
another second place bookmakers ref
Rouvas response to result
outfit and song desc
Greece was arrogant
Rouvas won the World Music Award for best-selling Greek artist. Use for bio too?
kirkirov resigns from jury because possibly biased
Rouvas talks about second attempt (before contest). Youtube vid
Greece and Cyprus before esc party
From official website. Rouvas bio information and song desc
Also many news stories on at eurovision.ert.gr

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

You have two Greek noms pending, so it is only right to review one now! --K. Peake 07:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


### Infobox and lead
Wikilink Ellinikós Telikós in the infobox
The 4th position and 110 points are not sourced anywhere in the body
Wikilink Ellinikós Telikós
"began a promotional tour around" → "began to travel around"
"including the selection events for other countries participating in" → "including events held by other participants in"
Again, Greece's fourth position and 110 points are not sourced
"At the 16 May final," → "At the final on 16 May," but the eighth position is not sourced
 Done


### Background
[2] should be at the end of the first sentence as well per both refs being used for this info
Shouldn't 2001, 2004 and 2008 be piped to the appropriate Eurovision articles?
Wikilink Sakis Rouvas
Pipe Kalomoira to Kalomira
Add a comma after 1998
Remove pipe on Thalassa
It is not sourced that all of those points were from Cyprus
Shouldn't 2004 and 2006 be piped to the appropriate Eurovision participation articles?
Much of the information supposedly backed up by [6][7] is not mentioned
Wikilink Eurovision Song Contest 2009
 Done


### Before Eurovision
#### Artist selection
Img looks good!
"confirmed Sakis Rouvas as" → "confirmed Rouvas as"
The part about him having placed fourth in 2004 is not sourced anywhere
"in Athens alongside" → "in the Greek capital Athens alongside"
 Done


#### Ellinikós Telikós 2009
Img looks good!
"the announcement of Sakis Rouvas as" → "the announcement of Rouvas as"
"during a press conference two days later" → "during a press conference the following day" per the source
It ended up being the 12th instead of the 11th. Fixed the dead ref that had sourced that part and removed the out of date ref. Grk1011 (talk) 17:52, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Pipe R&B to Contemporary R&B
The rock elements are not sourced
Pipe Greek Australian to Greek Australians
Are you sure a comma should be used before and when this is not American English?
 Done


#### Final
Remove overly obvious wikilink on Athens
The final being televised on ERT does not appear to be sourced, also ert.gr is mentioned but not as their website
This was from the dead link that has now been repaired. Grk1011 (talk) 20:42, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
The song being the winning one is not mentioned by either of the sources
Wikilink jury
Olga Pavlatou is not sourced as part of the jury, but Stella Flora is so why aren't they mentioned instead?
This was from the dead link that has now been repaired. I added Stella Floras as well to be more precise. Grk1011 (talk) 20:42, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Are you sure a comma should be used before and when this is not American English?
"and a ninth press vote" → "and a seventh press vote" per the source
ESCToday should not be italicised
 Done


#### Promotion
None of the first sentence is sourced
"entry "Bistra Voda" on 1 March." → entry "Bistra Voda" on 1 March 2009."
The eurovision.tv stream is not sourced
[26] backs up practically none of the content
Are you sure a comma should be used before and when this is not American English?
"Serbia where he would stay until 4 March," → "Serbia, where he would stay until 4 March 2009,"
Are Fox TV and Radio S separate? Also, the programs afterwards have no indication of the date(s).
This was a weird sentence. I rephrased and just listed the networks there since only one had a specific date listed. Grk1011 (talk) 20:42, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Pipe Youddiph to Masha Katz
Pipe Prime Minister to Premyer-Ministr
"in Cyprus on 13 March" → "in Cyprus on 13 March 2009"
"concluding on 24 February." → "concluding on 24 February 2009."
The hotel and other locations in Athens are not sourced
Fixed the MAD TV ref, which had this info in it. Grk1011 (talk) 17:52, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Remove wikilink on Athens
 Done


### At Eurovision
Remove wikilink on Moscow
 Done


#### Performances
"along with Elias Ledakis, were" → "and Elias Ledakis were"
"with BBC News remarking" → "with Richard Galpin of BBC News remarking"
The outfit being designed by Celia Kritharioti and four dancers being present are not sourced
Pipe Greek flag to Flag of Greece on both occasions
"was one of the ten performances" → "was one of the 10 performances" per MOS:NUM
Pipe Ladbrokes to Ladbrokes Coral
"on 16 May," → "on 16 May 2009,"
Are you sure a comma should be used before and when this is not American English?
The top-ten streak is sourced, but not specifically as sixth
This is allowed per WP:COUNTSORT, but I've added a courtesy ref that has the table showing it being the sixth. Grk1011 (talk) 17:52, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
[44] should also be invoked after the first two sentences per the usage of quotes
"in our hearts" many journalists" → "in our hearts", many journalists"
"for him: "some win," → "for him: "Some win," per the source
"a wonderful experience"." → "a wonderful experience."" per MOS:QUOTE on full sentences
Global Greek Radio should not be italicised
Remove pipe on "Shake It"
 Done


#### Voting
Remove wikilink on jury
"and to the United Kingdom" → "and to the UK"
 Done


##### Points awarded to Greece
Good
 Done


##### Points awarded by Greece
Good
 Done


##### Detailed voting results
Good
 Done


### References
Copyvio score looks pretty good at 32.4%!
Make sure all of these are archived, especially ones like ref 28 that are dead but have working archives
Cite BBC Online as publisher instead on ref 9
Pipe MAD TV to MAD TV (TV channel) on ref 13
Fix MOS:CAPS issues on ref 20
Add ESCToday as the publisher for ref 22
Remove staff from ref 28 because they are not a proper publisher
 Done


### Final comments and verdict
 On hold until all of the issues are fixed; the main problem was original research here. --K. Peake 08:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: I believe I addressed your concerns. I didn't find much OR, but it could have just been the dead link or two that snuck in there. Specific comments are listed above. Thanks for the thorough review! Grk1011 (talk) 20:42, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Grk1011 This definitely looks better now, however you still need to invoke the ref after any sentences that use direct quotes. --K. Peake 06:53, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: Got it. Done. Grk1011 (talk) 12:52, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 Pass now, slick job picking up on the suggestions! --K. Peake 13:09, 23 June 2022 (UTC)