# Talk:Flood (They Might Be Giants album)

Why are there two? What is the non-studio album chron supposed to telling us?Cloonmore (talk) 23:23, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

One was for songs/singles, which is inappropriate for this article about an album. I have removed the inappropriate chronology. DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

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33⅓ is publishing a book about this album; i wanted to make a note here to remind myself and any interested editors that it will probably contain lots of useful information for this article. in the meantime, i'd like to get started cleaning up the article a bit, if possible, as it is a key part of TMBG's discography. ~ Boomur [talk] 04:52, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

there's a lot of stuff that i want to do with this article before the book comes out, so in order to get a fresh start i've made a draft in my user namespace. people are free to edit it, but i'd prefer if folks left a note on my talk page or the subpage talk page (for discussion) prior to making any major changes (such as the addition of information). ~ Boomur [☎] 19:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
book's been published, so i moved my draft to the mainspace. currently working on integrating info from the book into the article, as well as general expansion. assistance is welcome! ~ Boomur [☎] 23:07, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Boomur, this is looking great. The book is really a great resource. I think we're headed to GA territory here. I did just change a few instances of "programme" to "program" per WP:TIES, by the way; we'll probably want to use American English here. --BDD (talk) 22:53, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
woops, thanks for that! I'm used to typing in a garbled combination of AE and BE on account of conflicting language influences; i'll try to stick to American. I'm thrilled with any help at all, anyhow. I've never been invested/assisted enough to work an article higher than C. ~ Boomur [☎] 02:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

It is not clear when Flood was released in Europe and the UK. Through my talk page, Richard3120 and I have gathered a few potential release dates, but i thought it would be best to move the discussion here so that other users can provide input as well. The following are the possible release dates:

January 5 – mentioned in one review published prior to the this date and the release of the album
January 8 – possibly? mentioned in reviews; unclear whether these purported reviews predated release or not
January 12 – noted as the release date in a German press release (viewable here) which likely predated the release of the album; date may refer to the publication of the press release itself
February 26 – the Monday following an NME review stating that the album would be released in a week
March 5 – a Monday; logical date considering all 5 UK reviews available were published in March (two on March 10, one March 31, one in the March issue of a magazine)
antgeth may also have some information to contribute. 
for now, it seems to me like the best solution would be to just put the EU/UK date as 1990 (and below the US release) until more concrete evidence becomes available. this could also include a note to the effect of "The European release date is uncertain, but reviews of Flood in the UK suggest that the release date was sometime between January 5 and March 5, 1990." (perhaps with better language and a later "start" date; the January dates seem unlikely to me.) ~ Boomur [☎] 18:58, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

I will just note here that the "March 1990" date for Q magazine doesn't help at all, as monthly magazines (in the UK at least) are generally dated more than a month ahead: for instance, the "December 2014" issues of Q, Uncut and Mojo (the UK's three principal music monthlies) are all due out this week, the penultimate week of October... the November issues already having been out since the end of September. So the March 1990 issue of Q likely came out before the end of January 1990. Richard3120 (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
i have a lot of clippings from music publications from around this time, and reviewing some of them today, what i can definitely say for sure is that it was released in... 1990.  the reviews that have dates attached range from early january to mid-may, so i think trying to garner a date from the distribution of press is futile.  one hypothesis that i could believe is that it was scheduled for release in january, but didn't actually come out until late february.  but really, without a lot more evidence it's impossible to say. --a self called nowhere (☎) 03:08, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
update for the sake of posterity: ant pointed out the other day that veröffenlicht as used in the press release is a word that seems to often be attached to album releases, so the January 12 date was most likely referring to the album. we agreed that this doesn't help much with solidifying a date, but i thought it would be good to document it. ~ Boomur [☎] 20:28, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps it was released in Germany/Europe before the UK – it seems unlikely to me that if it had been released in the UK in January NME would say at the end of February that it was due for release in that country. Richard3120 (talk) 22:56, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

there's a Brazilian article about Flood archived here and it seems pretty neat. unfortunately, i don't know enough Portuguese to get through it easily, but it looks like it talks about the album's eclecticism, among other things. i thought i'd put the link here in case anyone who is fluent wanted to read it or use it in the article at some point. ~ Boomur [☎] 01:00, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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