# Talk:Fortnite Battle Royale


### Query
Spotted the promotion via the WP:GAN feed and wanted to give a MA... Zippybonzo, did you conduct any spot checks for this review? I can't see any evidence for it. Asking the nominator to cite that the game launched after 2 months of development (not even slightly required under WP:LEADCITE), but no questions about any of the almost 300 refs? Or the Forbes contributor in the sources? 
I don't doubt the nominator's ability, but I spot-checked 1 ref (82 in Development) because it attributed a lot of material to 1 citation—over half of the material cited isn't verified (source doesn't mention prolonged development, industry pressure, GAAS, or Paragon—maybe a different source got lost somewhere?). Mistakes happen, and we owe it to nominators to make sure the articles are as best as they can be – please conduct/provide evidence of spot checks. All this does is throw doubt on what should be an exhilarating achievement. I've never seen a review for an article of this size where the nominator has nothing to action. If you disagree/want a 2nd opinion, one of us can make a post at WT:GAN requesting wider input on the review.
PS. @Nub098765: Might be worth including the EU situation re: the Apple lawsuit, as it returned to the EU iOS in 2024 due to EU law. Don't know a whole lot about Fortnite without looking through the sources but that I do know! – ImaginesTigers 18:15, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

I must've killed a citation on accident. That's entirely my fault and something I definitely should've caught. Also, had no idea about the EU situation. And I thought I got rid of the Forbes contributor. God, I overlook lots of things sometimes. Apologies. Thank you!! nub :) 18:21, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
Mistakes happen; I'm sorry you did not get a reviewer who caught them. Ultimately it's a reviewer's responsibility to find these things. If Zippy won't provide a reasonable-length spot check, I' strongly advise you go to WT:GAN and ask for a 2nd opinion on the review. Sorry for the cloud over the achievement; it's a very impressive piece of work. – ImaginesTigers 18:25, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
I imagine I'd follow the same procedure that happened with my other GAN that had no spotcheck. Well, thank you for the comment, and thank you for the compliment. I'm just trying to get this article the best I can. nub :) 18:32, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
I did spot check roughly 1 source from each paragraph and didn't spot any blaring issues, but I'm happy to do a more detailed spot check and will do so tonight — Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 19:29, 4 August 2025 (UTC)


### Full spotcheck
Numbered from Special:PermanentLink/1304189823:
5, 7, 11, 12, 18, 22, 23, 27, 34, 39, 41, 43, 45, 52, 56, 61, 63, 65, 70, 74, 77, 78, 83, 85, 87, 91, 96, 99, 103, 105, 108, 111, 113, 117, 122, 125, 127, 130, 134, 139, 144, 145, 149, 153, 157, 162, 165, 167, 172, 175, 180, 184, 185, 188, 192, 196, 201, 205, 206, 209, 211, 213, 218, 222, 225, 227, 231, 236, 240, 245, 249, 254, 259, 263, 264, 267, 271, 276, 279, 283, 284, 288
Will begin spot check in a few hours, but will commit to it now and write the numbers just to make it clear I do intend on finishing the review properly per above.

5: fine
7: "derived from the original Fortnite: Save the World mode.", source doesn't support this, it mentions the building system but not that it was derived from Save the World mode.
11: fine
12: fine
18: fine
22: fine
23: paywalled, but archive.org serves it fine
27: fine
34: fine
39: fine
41: fine
43: fine
Zippy, I'll do a random spread of these to reduce labour and hopefully we can just call it done. – ImaginesTigers

45: partial fail; does not support that it replaced Playground
52: Pass
61: Pass
63: Pass
65: Pass
70: Pass
74: Pass
77: Pass
134: Pass
139: Pass
157: Pass
@Zippybonzo I think that's more than enough to call this one a pass. Thanks for doing the follow-up checks :) – ImaginesTigers 10:04, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

I reworded the sentence ref 45 covers to better reflect the source. nub :) 10:15, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the help :) Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 10:24, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Norbert Wagner was an early Creative Director at Epic Games who briefly worked on Fortnite during its early development. He was involved with the team from mid-2016 until early 2017 and was one of the lesser-known contributors to the initial framework for Fortnite Battle Royale. While most of his work remains undocumented, some early internal builds and concept discussions referenced “NW” or “Wagner notes,” which some fans believe point to his involvement. Wagner left Epic before the mode launched publicly, and information about his role was eventually removed during later development cycles.
from most epic documents Txicfish (talk) 06:41, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Additionally, speculation and weasel words (like "some fans") that you've included are generally to be avoided in articles on Wikipedia. You'll want to provide some reliable sources to support your additions. UmbyUmbreon (talk) 06:57, 4 August 2025 (UTC)