# Talk:Mila Kunis

She born in the Soviet Union and her first language is russian.She describe herself as russian in an interview in 2009.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1006:B034:2E60:8CDC:4469:19EC:696 (talk) 02:46, 22 October 2024 (UTC) 
Her citizenship is given as simply "American".  What happened to her original Soviet/Ukrainian citizenship?  The article should at least address this. — Smjg (talk) 22:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

this has been explained before, but per Wikipedia guidelines, it is the nationality of the individual, specifically the country and nationality under which they became notable, that is included in the lead. Furthermore, according to WP:Ethnicity, place of birth, previous nationalities, and/or ethnicity are not included in the lead. For Mila, as an American citizen who gained notability in America, she would be appropriately described as "American" rather than "Ukranian-American" or "Ukranian". And the same applies for citizenship.  Not only do we not know whether she still has Ukranian citizenship (which is highly unlikely if not impossible considering Ukraine does not permit dual citizenship), but even if so, she would still be described as "American" as it is the country and nationality under which she gained notability which is included in the lead Fsm83 (talk) 18:38, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
@Fsm83: So what?  I said the article should at least address this, not that the lead should address this.  By "Her citizenship is given as" I was referring to the sum total of all references to nationality/citizenship throughout the article.  My point is that the information is missing at the moment. — Smjg (talk) 17:35, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
What appears in this article seems sufficient enough to me.  There have been many comments on here that have been addressed several times by other wiki members as to why her citizenship has been properly addressed and identified in this article.  It wasn't just me.  To my knowledge (and what others have stated) there is no credible source to identify if she has a dual citizenship or if Ukraine even permits a dual citizenship.  As far as your question of what happened to her original Ukrainian citizenship if you or anybody else are able to provide a credible source to prove and show that information they are welcome to do so.Fsm83 (talk) 16:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Please see my December 16, 2024, entry at "Citizenship date & source?", below. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 06:51, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
What you posted from the People article stating her family immigrated to the United States as religious refugees appears reasonable to me.  As noted in that article Kunis added that while she is originally Ukrainian, she is also "very American" since she was raised in L.A.  As you mentioned I have yet to see a date she became a citizen or a reliable source for her becoming a citizen. Just like I posted here before there has yet to be seen credible sources to identify if she has a dual citizenship and if anyone can provide a credible source to do so.  For years the infobox had identified her as "American" and was done so because of her obvious background in America and having lived there since 1991.  Additionally America is the nationality of the individual, specifically the country and nationality under which they became notable, that is included in the lead for Kunis. I found it also relevant that once she moved to the United States she did not return for a visit to Ukraine until 2017 where she even went to the location of her home as a child.  Recently for some reason a user on this wiki article updated it from "American" to "US" and I really don't know why, but the main point I have focused on, and will continue to do so, is the fact that she has now spent 34 years in the United States and she was working as an actress in the United states that she became noteworthy to have an article on wiki. She did nothing as a child in Ukraine that would be noteworthy, including never doing any acting up to the age of seven in Ukraine.Fsm83 (talk) 14:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
@Quaerens-veritatem: Where does "Citizenship date & source?" say anything about this?  I can't see it anywhere.  I see only comments about her American citizenship, not her original citizenship. — Smjg (talk) 20:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello Smjg. Scroll down to topic "Citizenship date & source?". I put that there for responses. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 22:45, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
@Quaerens-veritatem: How can I have said what I said if I hadn't already scrolled down to "Citizenship date & source?"?  In any case, I wasn't replying to anything you said there.  I was replying to your act of referring us to that section here.  Therefore here is by far the most appropriate place to reply. — Smjg (talk) 23:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Can we please try to keep the discussion here on-topic and constructive?  My query is not about her move to the US, her current citizenship, when she acquired it, her early childhood in the Ukrainian SSR, or the content of the lead or infobox.  It is about two things and two things only:

What happened to her original Soviet/Ukrainian citizenship?
How can we address this question in the article?
The way it is currently written, it leaves the reader asking the first question, and thus shouldn't just ignore it completely.  For all we know, there are a few possibilities:

She or her parents surrendered this citizenship, either at the time or later.  (I don't know if parents can unilaterally surrender their children's citizenships if they're below a certain age - this probably depends on a few factors.)
As a result of the USSR/Ukraine not allowing dual citizenship, her original citizenship was automatically revoked when she became a US citizen.
By the time the USSR split, she had no place of residence therein, so never had citizenship of any successor state.
There are probably other possibilities.  Furthermore, "if you or anybody else are able to provide a credible source to prove and show that information they are welcome to do so" is obvious.  This is the main reason I posted here in the first place - to see if anyone can help source such information.  If you can't help, there's no real point posting here at all. — Smjg (talk) 20:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Change American to Russian 74.197.16.20 (talk) 02:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. AnnaMankad (talk) 02:25, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
As previously explained, per Wikipedia guidelines, it is the nationality of the individual, specifically the country and nationality under which they became notable, that is included in the lead and article.  Additionally, according to WP:Ethnicity, place of birth, previous nationalities, and/or ethnicity are not included in the lead.  For Mila, as an American citizen who gained notability in America, she would be appropriately described as "American" rather than "Ukranian-American" or "Ukranian". As noted, per Wiki policy it would not add Soviet, Jewish, Russian, or Ukrainian to the lead.  Her ethnicity/country of birth is covered in the article and does not belong in the opening sentence as per WP:OPENPARA or within the "Nationality" title as mentioned. Fsm83 (talk) 21:45, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

I was going to add a wikilink to this article, but was unable to do so because it appears to be blocked from editing. Please fix this ridiculous situation! 173.88.246.138 (talk) 00:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Not blocked; the page has been semi-protected due to many prior disruptive changes, see WP:Protection policy#Types of protection for details on what that involves. You can however still make edit requests here. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:01, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

ADD THIS: Mom started work in US at Thrifty in Culver City as a bagger
"My mom started working at Thrifty in Culver City as a box lady"
https://web.archive.org/web/20220308071123/https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ukraine-los-angeles-mila-kunis-family-fled-soviet-union
She worked a second job at Rite Aid with her mother. "My mom would pick me up from '70s Show, and she'd take me to work with her. I'd have to work the ice cream counter or photo counter until closing all the time."
https://web.archive.org/web/20150112011124/http://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/news/a19622/mila-kunis-first-post-baby-interview/
"ice cream every night, with her favorite flavors being Thrifty brand Chocolate Malted Crunch and Thrifty brand Rocky Road"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5A92I_LdU4
"while her mother worked in the back room of a Thrifty drugstore"
https://web.archive.org/web/20190323115709/https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-oct-16-et-mila16-story.html
Thrifty = Rite Aid 
...69.181.17.113 (talk) 02:11, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please specify where in the article this should all be added and write it as it will appear in the article. Ultraodan (talk) 06:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

make wikilink: Thorn.org
Thorn (organization) = Thorn.org
also make: Thorn.org
69.181.17.113 (talk) 02:17, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

 Partly done: created the redirect. Didn't add the wikilink as the same article is linked earlier. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 05:41, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Maybe I missed it in the archives, etc., and realize that many have written "She's an American citizen", but I have yet to see a date she became a citizen or a reliable source for her becoming a citizen. According to her wikiarticle and a ref, she came to the US under a religious-refugee visa, and believe the lead may correctly read that she is American, but the infobox, under citizenship, has "US", and it appears many just assume she became a citizen. I think she could work under a continually renewed visa, or has a green card that grants permanent residency, but does anyone have a date and substantiating reliable source for the assumed citizenship? Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 07:31, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Well, it's been over 40 days without any responses and I can find no reliable sources (or even unreliable sources) for citizenship, naturalization or not, so I am editing the Infobox accordingly. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 03:47, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi @Quaerens-veritatem, I actually did cite 2 sources (in this edit and this one). Thedarkknightli (talk) 04:24, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Hi Thedarkknightli. Glad you finally appeared and thank you for your contributions. Although the refs depend on others reporting on what Kunis said or did, rather than independent third-party sources of citizenship, and require knowledge of voting requirements that are not cited, just like meeting the requirements of WP:BLPSELFPUB I think the cites you gave are sufficient. I have changed the Infobox to delete 'naturalized' per our prior discussion (already shows born in another country, could not have been a birthright citizen (only naturalized), and you noted naturalized in the content) and added a ref re: eligibility to vote. Thanks, Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 05:19, 1 February 2025 (UTC)