# Talk:KEXC

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Maybe the new owner is homophobic, maybe he isn't; but so far the only evidence given is that the new owner fired the staff of the radio station and changed the format.  Changing the format is standard operating procedure when a new owner takes over, as is changing the staff.  Both gay and straight employees were fired.  So please stop screaming discrimination just because a decision was made that wasn't popular with the listeners.  If you have a citation, put it in the article.
BayAreaRadio (talk) 21:45, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I've added  to that controversy. If no one can find any articles to support the 'homophobe' claim, I Think the paragraph should be removed
japerry007 (talk) 09:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure "rumors say person X is a homophobe" and citing blogs saying that he is (with none of them giving evidence outside of that he fired people that happened to be gay and straight) is an improvement.  It's still not evidence, and changing the accusation from "You're an X!" to "I heard you're an X!" is not materially different.  Unless someone can find real evidence (a quote, a past action, or him rehiring all the straight employees while not rehiring the gay ones), I'm removing the line since it violates the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy.  Firing someone without regard to sexual orientation is far different than firing someone because of sexual orientation.
BayAreaRadio (talk) 19:41, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Removed "debtor in possession" - no citation. Solid Research (talk) 05:09, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Expanded, corrected and updated the article regarding the attempted sale of the stations. The citations are to articles on pmjmp.org. It is worth noting that the research in those articles are supported by citations to the actual court documents in question, a reliable source. Solid Research (talk) 21:50, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Seattle nonprofit radio station won an auction to purchase KREV in October of 2023.  Rhinokitty (talk) 18:46, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

@Rhinokitty You might be interested to know I just rewrote the article (in part to complement KEXP). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:KEXC/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 16:57, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: DoctorWhoFan91 (talk · contribs) 13:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
I'll take this one. Expect initial remarks in 48-72 hours. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand why, but for some reason I am getting notifications for every review comment by @DoctorWhoFan91 and @Sammi Brie, on this GA review, and the KSTV GA review. Weird, any ideas to stop it? It is a wonderful world (talk) 18:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Are you maybe subscribed to the topic, @It is a wonderful world? See WP:SUBSCRIBE. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
I was, thank you for this, I unsubbed. It is a wonderful world (talk) 19:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Also, seeing that you are also taking part in the GAN backlog drive, would you like to review one of my co-nommed GAN, Sammi Brie. Article is Peter Capaldi. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 12:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Will go section by section. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 14:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)


### References
Ref-40(UPI) looks incomplete  Done
Looks like IABot failed to give it an access date. I've done at least that.
Was JazzWest reliable?
@DoctorWhoFan91: I can't find much about them, as it seems to have been a regional specialty site and is no longer active (for years it has trumpeted a "soon" return on its site). The bio of the author states, Michael Handler is a freelance jazz writer and photographer who lives in Oakland, CA. He has written for Downbeat, JazzNow, and several other publications. Interestingly, he still hosts jazz radio in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and his bio at KSFR indicates that he was a DJ and host at KJAZ in the 80s. We have an article on DownBeat. I'm comfortable with his qualifications. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)


### Infobox
All fine


### Lead
Had some minor issues, though I fixed them myself. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 08:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I introduced a lot of issues in trying to fix it myself


### Pat Henry Ownership
Henry noted that ... : If that's his reason for buying it, you should mention it, seems non-sequitar  Done
Decided to drop this since I couldn't find the wording in the source.
It broadcast for: It was broadcast for
I feel like I went through this at the last GA review:: "broadcast" is a verb, too.
yes, but the former is present simple, the other is past simple
It is also a past-tense word.
Voices heard on the station: Confusing, does this mean a viewer's voice?  Done
No, it means some of their announcers. Changed to "announcers"
telephone lines from Alameda: Is there a word missing?  Done
No. The station had its own telephone lines to carry audio of concerts and the like back to its studios.
so something like ranging/extending/running/etc could be added between "lines" and "from"?
Done


### KREV: Ed Stolz ownership
Shouldn't you mention here and in lead who Ed Stolz is, just his name makes it sound like his is a famous name  Done
There's no biography of him. He was a previous owner of some other stations (namely KUDL in Sacramento). Additional information on Stolz would be out of scope; given the depth of his stations' bankruptcy case (this is the primary article that discusses it at this time), he might merit the GNG. Left a redlink here.
just something like "longtime station operator Ed Stolz" would be good
Added another sentence to satisfy this.


### Sale to KEXP
local music program Audioasis.: local to where, was it on KEXP or KEXC?  Done
Clarified.
*  a $10 million bequest from an anonymous listener.: that seems unusual, does only one ref talk about this

There is more coverage of this in KEXP-FM — it is not as relevant here.


### KNGY: Energy 92.7
 and had done so: having already done so  Done
Yes
* dance music–formatted: Is this correct grammar?

Yes
 sponsored its first Pride event; two HIV-positive DJs urged a listener boycott: how are the two related, did the call for boycott occur during the event?  Done
Reflowed
* Programs on the station included: is this part of appealing to the gays, or a separate thing? Looks separate

A bit of both! (Karel is gay.) It kind of goes here cuz it's the only place it goes.


### Sale and closure
reports had Cowan selling :Is this correct grammar?
Yes
service only aired: Is this a cause or consequence of the channel doing badly
It's unclear. But it was unsuccessful.
was $3 million.: "would be"? given that it's an estimate by a person  Done
Changed.
Evers noted: Evers also noted?  Done
Changed to "He noted". (Changes to here: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC))


### Ron Cowan ownership
full-time sales representatives to replace the heavy use of barter agreements with advertisers under Henry,[19] back-office procedures, and employee benefits.: Maybe the first change should be written last, as it looks at first glance that the latter three are the changes.  Done
Went for a different restructuring. Not having full-time sales reps is the biggest fact here.
* and give the disc jockeys : , givng the ...(its cause and effect, should sound like it)

Disagree: if that is a rationale, it's not an indirect effect.
Okay, suggestion revoked
Henry shunned: Henry had shunned(past perfect, not simple)  Done
 I'm confused- Cowan instead bought Wilson's share in the station.: Cowan wants to sell, Wilson is disappointed; but Wilson ends up selling, and Cowan continues?
Yes.
confused as in "what was anyone thinking here"- is there any reasons given in RS why such an unusual thing happened?
Could not find anything else in RS!
KJAZ founder Henry: KJAZ founder Pat Henry (if he is being reintroduced, it should be his full name)  Done
Dropped the introduction.
Last para- very confusing: "was close with Willie Brown" seems non-sequitar, wooing the uni is fraught, how is this related or fraught; "into the matter"- the word woo did not make it sound like it needed an investigation; "which centered on"- same as the prev sentence, nothing made it sound like it was wrong; last sentence is fine.  Done
Cowan might call for an article at some point. The main point is that Brown had an in with California state lawmakers and officials and was using it to pitch them on locating in his development. Cowan's story is kind of wild: in part of his financial collapse at this time, a judge ordered the items from his mansion seized to make up for his missed alimony payments ([1]). I have reworded this a bit.
fixed enough


### License challenge
Some jazz fans: However, some jazz fans  Done
Umm?
Did a different structure here with "While". Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
that would be Black-controlled: sale to minority-controlled groups is mentioned first only in the next para, so this sounds weird  Done
Henry had improved the station in response to criticism: Reference? (and example, bcs otherwise it does not sound like wikivoice)  Done
Reworded. The reference is the same.
This would have ... and newspaper interests.: Make into one sentence, and mention name, then that it would be the first Filipino-American-owned station  Done
Who is the image of- Mention that they are jazz singers  Done
That's why there are wikilinks in the caption. (Spangler has a discography but no article)
I know, but two words are better than tapping the screen four times
If you insist.
unionize KJAZ went: unionize KJAZ before went  Done
COM opposed: Also, COM opposed  Done
Committee on Open Media: is this a typo or a different group? If typo, use the abbreviation here too  Done
Typo.


### Carousel of formats and owners
as the company: and the company  Done
Mention name change, as KXJO appears out of nowhere  Done
Done with a new citation.
Bruce Buzil and Chris Devine: if names are mentioned, occupations are too usually  Done
Source does not contain information: "Bruce Buzil and Chris Devine are the principals of Three Point Media-San Francisco, LLC." Devine was a serial radio entrepreneur, from what I know (I first ran into him years ago doing KXBR (Missouri), a landmark DYK that led to pretty much every other radio station project I've done since). I don't know much of Buzil. Apparently Devine also owned the Las Vegas and Salt Lake marathons, for some reason.
Yeah, so write "blah blah Bruce Buzil and serial radio entrepreneur Chris Devine"
Found another source to take this up a bit in a separate sentence. @DoctorWhoFan91: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
owner of: now the owner of 
Umm?
What does this refer to? I don't think the quote box should be longer. This would be awkward in context.
Clear Channel owned the channel for some time, I was referring to that (there was a ref error in this section, so I changed this while fixing it- feel free to edit it if you feel there can be a better wording)
Fine, revoked


### Spot-check
Checing every 12th ref in general

Ref-1: Facility ID:36029
Ref-13: Larsen also has joined the staff of KBAY-FM
Ref-23: virtually unique ... paying due tribute ... Ellington
Ref-36: Committee for Open Media has filed complaints
Ref-49: Ron Cowan is now the sole owner
Ref-61: investigation into a UC official
Ref-73: seize $100,000 in assets ... late spousal support
Ref-86: Clear Channel to Buy Jacor For $2.8 Billion in Stock
Ref-97: Energy 92.7 FM ... Launched one year ago on October 2 under the call letters KNGY
Ref-109: required them to pay $330,000 in statutory damages., awarded $900,000 in attorney’s fees and costs
Ref-121: Friends of KEXP has filed its $3.75 million purchase of 92.7 KREV


### Overall
Have reviewed some more sections. Sorry, I'm reviewing this slower than my usual speed. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:53, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Review done, Sammi Brie, putting on hold. Article was well written, no content issues, just minor issues. Well-written article, ping me when you are done. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 19:42, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

@DoctorWhoFan91: Many changes made, though I have disagreed with several or implemented a few differently. This article is quite large for a radio station, and certain asks (more info on Stolz) would seem to tip toward out-of-scope material. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
@Sammi Brie: Marked as done for the changes that were made, strikethroughed most of the changed you disagree with. Replied to the ones which fell in neither category, to better explain what changes should be made. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Good job, all issues resolved. I'll write down a spot-check in a few hours and pass it. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 11:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Did the spot-check, everything came out right, passing the article to GA. Well done Sammi Brie, very well-written article. Congratulations, keep up the good work. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)