# Talk:Heartbreaker (Mariah Carey song)

" "Heartbreaker" pushed Carey even further into the R&B and hip-hop market, becoming her first commercial single to feature a hip-hop artist." <----- this is incorrect as past singles such as "Fantasy" and "Always Be My Baby" and "Breakdown" featured Hip-Hop & R&B Artists MRGQ (talk) 23:17, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Your logic is incorrect. "Fantasy" featured O.D.B in the remix version, not the international and radio version released worldwide. Same applies for "ABMB". Now for "Breakdown", notice I wrote lead single. Make sense?--CallMeNathan  • Talk2Me  23:51, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

RPM archives says the song peaked at number 5, Allmusic says it topped the chart in Canada. I don't get what to put in table. Any suggestions? – Cannot (talk) 16:16, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

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It has been a while since this article was reviewed, so I took a look and noticed lots of uncited statements, including several large paragraphs. Should this article go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 16:01, 28 September 2025 (UTC)


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Uncited statements, including several large paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 00:31, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

@Z1720: Do I understand that this is all regarding the Music video section? mftp dan  oops  13:22, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
@MFTP Dan: In addition to the "Music video" section, the last paragraph of both "Remixes" and "Live performances" are uncited. I also see that there are some very large paragraphs that would benefit from being split into multiple paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 13:27, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for expounding on that, I will take a further look. Regarding the music video, I wonder if the rules have changed since 2011. I believe it used to be accepted that the synopsis of a music video could be relayed without citations with a few exceptions, like one would a plot section for a film. I was unsure if you were aware of that, or if it's still the case. As for the other places, I agree those will definitely need to be cited, but I would like further clarification on the rules for music videos. mftp dan  oops  13:31, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
@MFTP Dan: Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, I think all of that text is covered under MOS:PLOT. However, I didn't realise that it was all the plot of the video because of how long it is. I think this can be summarised more effectively, and other text that concerns the production of the music video (like the actors involved) should be cited. Z1720 (talk) 14:45, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
Fixed the music video plot. I will address the others at another time. mftp dan  oops  01:25, 11 November 2025 (UTC)