# Talk:Firehawk (roller coaster)

Stealth (Flying Dutchman prototype coaster) at Paramount's Great America was actually the first Flying Dutchman coaster to use the GAU to raise and recline the seats on the train (having worked at the park that year and seeing the "GAU Up" and "GAU Down" lables on the control panel confirm this). N Yo FACE 06:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

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Just a note that the patent drawing has been nominated for deletion on Commons. It may have to be removed. jcgoble3 (talk) 21:18, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Retrolord (talk · contribs) 07:11, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I have addressed all the comments except one. I don't know how I can change the "Fly to lie" and "Lie to fly" lines. They provide the information needed and it would be confusing without it.-- Astros4477 (Talk)  16:39, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Made an attempt to resolve the issue by only mentioning each term once. --GoneIn60 (talk) 09:20, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Inserted the missing bracket. As for the explanation of the railroad-type switch, we should consider WP:LINKSTYLE which states: "Don't assume that readers will be able to access a link at all, as, for example, they might have printed an article and be reading the hard copy on paper". Not only is the explanation helpful in this respect, but it also helps meet good prose style for having at least 3 sentences in a paragraph.  If it is still decided to remove the extra info, then we should probably remove the entire Station subsection. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:29, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I would not be ok with removing the whole station section. I don't see any reason why you would need to.-- Astros4477 (Talk)  21:04, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Comment – I agree. I'm just saying it would be pointless to have only one sentence in a section. I think the amount of information in there now is reasonable. --GoneIn60 (talk) 22:26, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
I removed a part in the incidents section.-- Astros4477 (Talk)  21:13, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Addressed comment regarding Incident section. As for "Memorial Day weekend", this covers a range of dates not a specific one as stated in the source. So, I'm not sure you can really change this. --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:13, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Could we change it to a date? It is a bit ambigous at the moment, and if you don't know what Memorial day is, a bit confusing aswell. ★★RetroLord★★ 08:04, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
The opening was set for Memorial Day weekend. A specific day was not set when that was released. You can't say the opening was set for a specific date when it wasn't. There is also a link to Memorial Day.-- Astros4477 (Talk)  18:49, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
As Astros says, there's not one specific date - there are three possible dates. Perhaps you can say "the weekend of May 26, 2007" in parenthesis after Memorial Day weekend if you feel it's absolutely necessary, but that starts to get wordy, especially with all the other dates in this section. My 2¢ --GoneIn60 (talk) 21:25, 13
February 2013 (UTC)
I'm satisfied with the article then, will pass soon assuming i don't see any problems. ★★RetroLord★★ 05:31, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Do not pass this article just yet; ref 4 is dead, ref 10's formatting is not complete, majority of the ref's are unreliable. These three things need to be fixed before the article is passed.--Dom497 (talk) 02:52, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
I fixed ref 4 and 10. Could you be specific about what refs are unreliable?-- Astros4477 (Talk)  05:38, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dom497! Thanks for your comments, they are most welcome. After carefully reviewing the good article criteria, which all good article nominations are measured against, I can find no reason to not promote this article. Your points regarding the dead references have been addressed, and it remains unclear to me as to how the "majority" of the references are unreliable. Pursuant to the Good article criteria, this article is passed. 

Note to Dom497, instead of immediatly putting this through renomination and applying your own personal criteria, something which is NOT allowed, why not just be bold and fix the problems yourself? ★★RetroLord★★ 09:00, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

About a month and a half ago, I had stumbled upon an interview concerning Six Flags Worlds of Adventure's X-Flight roller coaster (which at the time was about to open soon). In one section of this interview, Vice President Jack Bateman indicated that park management was considering naming X-Flight after one of DC Comics' characters. However, after issues with the coaster's location, they had decided on a more generic theme. You can see the addition I had made here.
The problem was, the source I had used (a Six Flags Ohio "fan-site") did not meet Wikipedia's reliability requirements. Now, according to the fan-site, this interview was an exclusive story of theirs! So, unless somebody can find a more reliable source that has verified the DC Comics claim, I highly doubt that I could re-insert this information in a more proper manner. Perhaps somebody who knows more about the park could lend a hand?
Megalomaniaman (talk) 21:45, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I was the one who reverted it. Unfortunately, you are right that reinserting it isn't an option until it is picked up by a reliable source. We should strive to keep articles trimmed down to the most important details that aid in the understanding of the article's subject. Generally, the more important a detail is, the more likely it will appear in one or more sources. If that doesn't happen, then it's probably not important enough for Wikipedia. Even in situations where a piece of information is verifiable, inclusion on Wikipedia is not guaranteed. See WP:ONUS for more info. --GoneIn60 (talk) 21:34, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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