# Talk:Du wahrer Gott und Davids Sohn, BWV 23

I have gone through the twenty-some pages currently existing on Wiki for the Church cantatas, after editing a Bach Cantata Pilgrimage section, and thought I'd make an effort to standardize their presentation inasmuch as possible. Consequently, I've created a few sections: a general intro that contains the German title, alongside a literal translation to English, BWV number, and type of cantata (sacred vs. secular). 
This section also contains the prescribed readings and the authorship of the texts, when known, as well as the authorship of the chorale theme. 
The articles are completed with a scoring and structure section, followed by the complete German text, in three columns, a list of complete recordings (as I can find online, obviously. I'm sure there are many more recordings). 
I plan on applying this template to all articles (existing or to be created) on the cantatas. Any advice/recommendation would be greatly appreciated and surely taken into account.
Campelli (talk) 16:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Du wahrer Gott und Davids Sohn, BWV 23/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 22:59, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

I can get this done tomorrow. JAGUAR  22:59, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. No rush. It was performed 7 February, last Sunday before Lent, - exactly as this year, but now people are more in carnival mood than Passion, - DYK can come anytime before Easter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:33, 8 February 2016 (UTC)


### Initial comments
The lead definitely requires an expansion to summarise the article per WP:LEAD. At least two paragraphs comprising of a few sentences should do it fine, or (as I see this article is shorter than the usual Bach ones), perhaps one larger paragraph?
If anything, a mention of this cantata's history would be essential for the lead
will do, both --GA
More lead now. I have the feeling that the different keys back and forth would be too much detail there, what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:49, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
"for Quinquagesima Sunday" - it's arranged as 'for Sunday Quinquagesima' in the lead, which one is it?
Don't know. Sunday is added only for the people who don't know that. Choose,you have better feeling for language. --GA
"for his application for the position of Thomaskantor, director of church music, in Leipzig" - no need for comma in between "music" and "in"
yes --GA
"The text's theme is optimistic" - how about The theme of the text is optimistic
yes - I inherited that ;) --
"The Bach scholar Christoph Wolff" - I think this would sound better without the "the", makes it sound like he's the only Bach scholar!
Was just "Bach scholar" in many articles, but other reviewers wanted the article. --GA
No dead links
Thanks for looking, and I confess that I completely forgot about the lead ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
This is a nice article, on par with all of the other Bach articles! I'll leave this on hold until all of the above are out of the way. An expansion of the lead is required in order to meet the GA criteria, but nothing major.  JAGUAR  17:25, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing them! The lead looks a lot better now. It summarises the article perfectly and is of a good length. Anyway, I'll be promoting this now, in time for Easter!  JAGUAR  11:12, 10 February 2016 (UTC)