# Talk:New York State Route 20SY

I guess I'm the only one wondering what SY stands for? Syracuse? It was the only reason I looked at the article. Btw, decommissioned has two ms.--Wetman 08:51, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I believe that is the case. However, the "Y" suffix has been occasionally used to mean "spur route". It most definitely was designated this way for drivers on Route 20 to be able to easily go to Syracuse. --Polaron | Talk 16:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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GA review (see here for criteria)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS): 
The only issue I have with the article is in the Route description. There are usages of bare route numbers without NY or Route prefixed. Also, the lead doesn't mention the NY 20SY abbreviation. There are a few verbs in the present tense that should be in the past tense since this is a former route. I'd also add the maint parameter to the infobox.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars etc.: 

It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

Imzadi1979 (talk) 16:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Fixed and passing. Imzadi1979 (talk) 20:28, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The history section is very short here. This is an issue with the completeness/broadness criterion. The article runs a serious risk of being delisted if this is not addressed within the next few days. Dr. Cash (talk) 03:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Not every route's gonna have a detailed history. 20SY lacks a lot of it, because no sources exist for good history. We're lucky for what we found, and is at this stage, is complete. Nothing really happened in the 10 or so years that 20SY existed, and should be exempted for this. Its twin, New York State Route 20N, also a GA, has the same problem.Mitch32contribs 10:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. Complete/broad means it has to include all or the majority of the information, and not leave out any major aspects. As this article covers the entire route's history, it's just fine as a GA. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:58, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
If there's no really good sources about the topic, then why does wikipedia need to have an article about it? Dr. Cash (talk) 21:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion, while there might not be as much information as New York State Route 22 or New York State Route 28, this article has enough information to warrent its own article. All state-maintained or higher (Federal, Interstate) highways are notable, even if they are only a matter of several miles long. If there is enough information to write an article about a road with a decent route description and a basic history, I don't see why there can't be an article for people to obtain information from. That said, Wikipedia is not printed, and I am not aware of the servers getting full. So I don't see a reason not to have an article on anything and everything we possibly can. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)