# Talk:Man of Steel (film)

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/man-steel-2-reportedly-moving/
Majinsnake (talk) 02:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

"genetic codex"??  The phrase appears in the first line of the plot description without explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 (talk • contribs) 

It's a MacGuffin. DonQuixote (talk) 01:50, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

HumanxAnthro, thanks for your recent contributions here. I recently reduced it to 671 words, but your edits were even more effective getting it down under 500 words. I'm happy with the changes overall and made a few slight changes to yours. Think we've arrived at a much more concise version currently sitting at 491 words (here). Cheers! --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:29, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Superman VI and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 21#Superman VI until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Regards, SONIC678 05:26, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

 InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

@Barry Wom @Sjones23 This has been reverted numerous times, and I need an explanation. What is the reason behind this sudden change in the structure of the lead? I understand trimming, but changing the structure is another thing. The statement "it is the first film in the DC Extended Universe" is consistent with the other articles from the DCEU, and also consistent with the articles of pretty much every major film from a major franchise and shared universe. Stating this is an example of WP:FANCRUFT is baffling, since that means that we should then revise every article from comparable film franchises like the MCU. Its placement in the greater franchise is essential to include in the first few sentences. Plus, the current version just does not sound right: “Directed by Zack Snyder and written by David S. Goyer, who developed the story with producer Christopher Nolan, and a reboot of the Superman film series, depicting the character's origin story. "...something is missing, sounds like an incomplete sentence. Should it be something like "It is a reboot..." or "It was directed by Zack Snyder...and a reboot of". If the film was in its own standalone film series, then this would be appropriate, but it is not, it is the first film of the DCEU and it should be alongside the fact that it is a reboot of the Superman film series, just like it was for a very long time. Joy040207 (talk) 03:14, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

Its placement in the greater franchise is essential to include in the first few sentences.
Why do you believe this is the case, other than WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS? Barry Wom (talk) 04:19, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
This sentence has been in the first paragraph of the article for more than a decade, so there is consensus for it, WP:IMPLICIT or otherwise. I certainly think it presents relevant and valuable information to the reader, and there is precedent for its inclusion on numerous similar articles (WP:OSE is about notability and is irrelevant; you're looking for WP:SSE). If you believe it should be removed, you need to make the case here on the talk page, especially given that you have been reverted by multiple editors. Please do not WP:EDITWAR and familiarize yourself with WP:BRD/WP:STATUSQUO. Frankly, I think you should know better, as an experienced user. InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
Let's stop acting as if you are not the one who made the edit and pretend as if I am the one who was trying to do a bold change without consulting first. You still have not given a valid reason as to why you think such a sentence should be moved to an unusual place, and by unsual I mean compared to, yet again, every other article from every other film that is part of a major franchise. Let me say it again, "fancruft" is not a valid reason, as you are implying that the content is not relevant to non-fans, or non-encyclopedic, when it is, especially when there is precedent for its inclusion. Fancruft is including something that only fans will understand, but "the first film in the franchise" is not a "fan-only" relevant statement.
Thank you for your contribution, @InfiniteNexus. Joy040207 (talk) 23:04, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
I agree that the DCEU mention is notable for introducing readers to this topic. This should not be removed, and repeatedly warring over its addition/removal is unacceptable. Its inclusion has been the status quo, and this should remain. There has not been a valid rationale for its exclusion other than baseless fancruft complaints that hold no merit, as this is factual, relevant, and real-world information, not just a bunch of in-universe fictional content given undue weight in the lead. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 23:10, 4 October 2025 (UTC)