# Talk:Catholic Church in Afghanistan

I'm promoting this article to GA status per the qualifications. It is well written, clear, and of a good, neutral tone. The article is well cited with inline citations, and is fairly comprehensive. The subject is obscure, but interesting, and of clear relevance to the future of religious integration and tolerance in Afghanistan.
Here are a few suggestions for continued improvement:

An image or two would be nice. However, because of the location and size of the only chapel, it seems there aren't any free license pictures around. However, finding one would help the article. Anyone travelling to Kabul soon want to snap us a nice picture?
A little more on the early history of the church's presence in Afghanistan.
Thanks to the editors working on this article, you've done well, and the article is in a good state for further improvement. Phidauex 16:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

This article is overtly bias and exceedingly speculative.  For instance, a portion of the article reads:
"The Catholic community in Afghanistan is mainly made of foreigners, especially aid workers, and no Afghans currently are part of the Church, mainly due to great social and legal pressure not to convert to non-Islamic religions." 
This passage totally fails to recognize the existence of several more substantive reasons why Afghans simply do not want to become Catholics.  There is absolutely no indication that their hesistation to convert is chiefly based on social pressures and not mainly on other premises.   This is one of many instances in where the article is not devoid of bias.  NPOV tag added. Scythian1 (talk) 16:18, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

If you can provide some references of these other reasons, it can be included, but its not my problem if you don't like the fact that christians, once revealed, have to flee the country or be killed, it's the truth. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The very fact that you are misconstruing my contention with the article into something wholly irrelevant if not accusatory, establishes your partisanship and slant concerning this article.  Moreover, that contested portion - that no Afghans currently being part of the church mainly due to "great" social and legal pressure - does NOT contain any references as well.  Thus the initial burden is on YOU to find a proper reference showing that no Afghans currently, are part of the church MAINLY because of great social and legal pressure.  Such a showing is necessary given Wikipedia's demanding requirement on original research and its prohibition on speculation.  Thus, once you meet that burden, I will happily search for a reference "of these other reasons."  Accordingly, speculative content removed. Scythian1 (talk) 07:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

There is no "speculation" going on, that is the reason there are no converts, pain of death is a powerful thing. If you think I am wrong, and there are lots of happy Christians worshiping in Afghanistan, provide some references. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Roman Catholicism in Afghanistan/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.
As part of the GA sweeps performed by the Good Article Project Quality taskforce, this article has undergone an individual reassessment to ensure that it continues to meet the Good Article criteria. I found it to be a well-written, very interesting article. Many of the references were dead, so I updated them (mostly through Internet Archive's Wayback Machine). Overall, it is a well-sourced, neutral, stable article with no major issues that I can see. I am closing the reassessment as keep. GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I digress. it certainly doesnt seem "good article" as it leaves some info to be desired. the status of specific churches and relations in the country, either after or during the taliban (and post-taliban) are not answered)Lihaas (talk) 02:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I already found one picture in our files that I posted - I am a member of the Barnabites, the order to which the mission sui iuris is entrusted.  I will look for older photos and when I can try to get some current material from Fr. Moretti.
Rev. Peter M. Calabrese, CRSP 21:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC) FRMAVERICK  — Preceding unsigned comment added by FRMAVERICK (talk • contribs)  

Overall good article.  I was a bit confused though to learn that there are only about 100 Catholics in the country.  I'd assume this doesn't (or didn't) include Catholics within foreign armies.  What was the experience of such foreign Catholics?  --Zfish118 (talk) 16:50, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Big thanks to the editor who included the new section! --Zfish118⋉talk 05:47, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

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[Contents moved to move review.]
Please see move review here Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2016_June#Catholic_Church_in_Afghanistan --Zfish118⋉talk 19:22, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

The result of the move review was endorsed. Jenks24 (talk) 08:17, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

The Roman Catholic Church did not exist in Afghanistan prior to the 1500's, yet the early history refers to "This early establishment of the Church".  The Catholic Church was referred to as "The Church" in the article at least once, it should be clarified which church is which.  The section also states that 9 bishops and dioceses were established prior to Muslim conquest.  Presumably these were "Nestorian" bishops, but I am not familiar with early Afghan history. All of these dates for bishoprics are from after communion between the Church of the East and Roman Catholic was broken.  Discussion rolls seemless into the Jesuits, who were not affiliate with the so called "Nestorian" Church of the East, which was apparently persecuted to near extinction in Afghanistan two centuries prior. Again, the lack of affiliation should be made clearer.--Zfish118⋉talk 17:52, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I've switched that instance of "the Church" for "Christianity".  The Jesuits are by definition Catholic and not Nestorian; especially with the label "Jesuits" wikilinked, I don't think further clarification is necessary.  The sequence is clearly laid out to be St. Thomas preaching in the 1st century -> Nestorian establishment by the 5th century -> Muslim conquests in the 7th and control by the 9th and 10th-> Jesuits arrive and are welcomed in the 16th. Jujutsuan (Please notify with {{re}} talk | contribs) 18:04, 15 July 2016 (UTC)