# Talk:Downtown Athletic Club

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This is a proposal for a major edit of the Downtown Athletic Club article.  
OBJECTIVES OF THE EDIT:

Add sources and citations.  Research to do this is underway now.
Expand coverage in these areas:
Details of the building as originally designed;
Decline of the Downtown Athletic Club in the context of local economic changes, such as the decline of the shipping industry in Lower Manhattan; and the decline in private clubs generally;
Impact of the 9/11 attacks on the club, as a building and as an institution;
The transformation of the building into The Downtown Club as an exemplar of adaptive re-use in Lower Manhattan;
The cultural influence of the building as reflected in studies and proposals at schools of architecture in the U.S., Germany, Turkey, and Australia.
TIMELINE – Completion expected by November 30, 2008.
QUESTION – The current article mentions that Marisol Deluna owns a duplex in the building and that several Wall Street bankers live there.  Sources for this information would be much appreciated; Web searches show no other references.  
Batteryplace (talk) 20:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Batteryplace (talk) 09:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

An outside project delayed my work on the Downtown Athletic Club article.  I expect to have the revised article posted by December 31.
Still uncertain – The current article mentions that Marisol Deluna owns a duplex in the building and that several Wall Street bankers live there.  Sources for this information would be much appreciated; Web searches show no other references.  Batteryplace (talk) 17:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

The first paragraph contains:
"The club was less than half a mile south of the World Trade Center and suffered major damage in the September 11, 2001 attacks." 
The second paragraph contains:
"The Downtown Athletic Club was NOT damaged in the 9/11 attack."
Please consider revising to correct contradiction.
Cjstanonis (talk) 23:38, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

This building is very important in the R. Koolhaas most famous book "Delirious New York". I think this should be mentioned somewhere in the article. 186.53.39.122 (talk) 17:20, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

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For context, this material was added in 2005 and the source was published first in 2000. epicgenius (talk) 00:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Downtown Athletic Club/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 21:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
This will likely be done in several chunks.


### Criteria
1. Prose  Pass
2. Verifiability  Pass
3. Depth of Coverage  Pass
4. Neutral  Pass
5. Stable  Pass
6. Illustrations  Pass
7. Miscellaneous  Pass


### Comments
1. 

" having filed bankruptcy due" - I believe the technically correct phrasing is "having filed for bankruptcy due"
 Done
Infobox gives 39 floors, the lead gives 35.
 Fixed
Link Manhattan Island
 Done
Consider linking Heisman Trophy in the Interior section, it hasn't bee linked in the prose body yet.
 Done
Not sure if racquet is what you mean to link to.  Context suggests racquetball, while you link to the piece of sports equipment itself.
 Done
Founding and clubhouse construction also gives 35 stories, as does one of the sources.  Are the sources ambiguous as to height?
No, but Emporis counts the attic floors. epicgenius (talk) 23:46, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
"The Downtown Athletic Club reacquired title to the club in 1950, having signed a 10-year mortgage with the Connecticut Mutual Life Insurance Company." - It seems like reacquired title to the building would make more sense than reacquired title to the club.  Reacquiring title to the club could be understood as losing title to the organization itself.
Oops, I did mean "building" but got confused. I have fixed that. epicgenius (talk) 23:46, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Back taxes is linked, but not at the first mention.  Can the link be moved to the first mention?
 Done
"However, the Downtown Athletic Club was unable to pay back the $8.3 mortgage." - The however seems a bit odd since the preceding sentence is directly setting up the financial woes by stating that it was incurring a substantial monthly loss.
 Fixed
Heisman Trophy is a duplink
 Removed
2.

Ref 23 - The title should be "New York landmark's closing leaves Heisman homeless".  The author should also be included.
 Done
Ref 61 needs an accessdate
 Done
Ref 56 doesn't support the statement given.  It looks like the URL redirects to another part of the organization's website now.
 Removed
Ref 49 needs the author
 Done
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The external link isn't needed, it's used as a citation.
I removed the citation above, since it doesn't support the text. So it is no longer the case that the link is used as a citation. epicgenius (talk) 00:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
This one's in pretty good shape.  Placing on hold.  Shouldn't take a lot to get this up to GA-status, good work. Hog Farm (talk) 23:16, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: Thanks for the review. I have done all of these. epicgenius (talk) 00:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Passing. Hog Farm (talk) 01:42, 3 May 2020 (UTC)