# Talk:Gowanus Batcave

Had a hard time determining the best article title for this one. As far as I can tell, the original name was just "Central Power Station" (of the Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company). However, throughout most of the sources, the name "Batcave" (sometimes "Bat Cave") is clearly more common. Sometimes just "the Batcave," sometimes "Gowanus Batcave", sometimes "Brooklyn Batcave", etc. It seems to me that since it's kind of a toss-up, that "Gowanus Batcave" is preferable to some parenthetical like "Batcave (Gowanus)" or "Batcave (Brooklyn)". — Rhododendrites talk \\ 23:27, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for expanding, epicgenius. I thought about trying to bring this up to GA last year, but it felt like material was missing and I was at the end of my sourcing. Looks like you found some useful stuff via newspapers.com and the landmarks content that hadn't yet happened when I was working on it. I'll see if I can help out more in the next couple days and maybe it'll get to GA yet... — Rhododendrites talk \\ 05:06, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Rhododendrites, no problem. I mostly took the info from the NYC Landmarks page, and apparently there are some gaps in information. For example, a lot more can be said about design (and I think the design section can be its own section). Hopefully you and I can find even more info. epicgenius (talk) 13:50, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

The article initially used named refs at the bottom called throughout the text. I've been trying to reformat to use that style, but struggling with all the harv templates, which I have less experience with. Moving non-harvard refs down is easy enough, but I've run into something I'm not sure how to do:
Right now the Harvard refs point down to Further Reading rather than a references/works/bibliography section, which doesn't seem ideal. I was trying to move the NYCL ref into the references section as a named ref, cited as-is at the end of "In October 2019, in advance of the planned rezoning...", and have the short footnotes point to that instance of the citation. I can't seem to get it to work, though, I think because of a conflict between ref name= and |ref= ... Help? :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:38, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Rhododendrites, sorry about that. I introduced the Harvard refs because it is standard for me to do this when citing  NYC Landmarks website many times. However, I also use {{Rp}} which makes everything more confusing.
|ref= is used as a link anchor from the Harvard citations. It has nothing to do with Harvard citations. Usually when I do use {{harvnb}} templates, I set the ref name equal to NYCL p. page number. e.g. <ref name="NYCL p. 2">{{harvnb|Landmarks Preservation Commission|2019|ps=.|p=2}}</ref>. Then I set |ref= equal to {{harvid|Landmarks Preservation Commission|2019}}. Seems like this goes against the existing cite style though, so I will remove the Harvard refs. epicgenius (talk) 23:21, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Following up on some of the material from the landmark designation report. There's a line we cite that report for saying that, at some point between it being decomissioned and the squatters moving in, it was a paper recycling plant. However, the citation the report gives is a wiki which, in turn, doesn't cite anything. The best I've found corroborating that is Brooklyn Paper saying there was a paper mill there at some point. :/ — Rhododendrites talk \\ 01:55, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Can't find any trace of this anywhere, so I've gone ahead and removed it. It seems like, as the most recent tenant before the Powerhouse Workshop, it should be pretty easy to verify... — Rhododendrites talk \\ 04:02, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

As the Powerhouse Arts organization is up and running, I'm wondering if Powerhouse Arts deserves its own stand-alone article considering this article is mainly about the building. Pinging @Rhododendrites @Epicgenius - Wil540 art (talk) 02:07, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

@Wil540 art, thanks for the ping. In general, I do think it is a good idea to have separate articles about the organization and building if the organization's article would otherwise meet WP:NORG. However, I wouldn't be able to check whether this is the case until I get back from vacation. Epicgenius (talk) 03:04, 16 March 2025 (UTC)