# Talk:Kolkata Suburban Railway

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 18:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

it seems like that article still needs lots of sources to begin with. expand the lead section, and consider whether a list of incidents and achievements is needed at all.  Done
because it reads like a list of trivia and bullet points, which is not what many GA's are allowed to have  Done
The lede needs an expansion. One para really doesn't cover it  Done
acronym (such as EMU), you need to say it in full.  Done
citations in the lede and Infobox. Does that info not appear in the main prose.  Done
At the very least, every para needs a citation. Usually, it's every sentence, especially if it is a contentious statement, or a quote.
lot of WP:OR
(provided by User:Lee Vilenski and User:Epicgenius) ❯❯❯   S A H A 17:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
ArnabSaha, the history really needs to be expanded as well. That's one of the major things I noticed. Also, as we talked about with the Kolkata Metro article, avoid using region-specific terms like "lakh" or "crore".
As for commuter railroads that are GANs, take a look at Wikipedia:Good_articles/Engineering_and_technology#Transport. Some of these are about commuter railroads, but they seem to be mostly Norwegian railroads. epicgenius (talk) 18:22, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Epicgenius, ok. thanks a lot. ❯❯❯   S A H A 05:06, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Pentagon 2057 (talk · contribs) 11:27, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I will be taking up this review. Do leave me a message if you have any queries. Thanks Pentagon 2057 (T/C) 11:27, 3 September 2020 (UTC)


### Comments
The article is well covered and largely refrenced with suitable illustration, but there are some issues with prose, grammar, and structure. Below are some Issues that would need to be resolved before I can pass the article. Will put it on hold for now. Pentagon 2057 (T/C) 10:31, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

"part of the passenger railway begun in British India next to Mumbai in the mid-19th century."  I think the sentence needs to be fixed, I cannot decipher what it is trying to say.
passenger railway 1st started in Mumbai, then Kolkata. This happened during British Raj.
I would suggest changing it to "The Kolkata Suburban Railway is part of the  second passenger railway constructed in British India during the mid-19th century." as it makes the point clearer
 Done @Pentagon 2057: ❯❯❯   S A H A 14:20, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
"After hundred years of the initial run" I think you mean after?
Specifically EMU servicess started after 100 years
There should be links to Kolkata Metro and the various stations mentioned in the lead.
 Done ❯❯❯   S A H A
The gauge of the track should be mentioned in the lead, alongside construction details.
 Done. There arent enough construction details. And construction is not specific for suburban railway. Indian railway does as a whole, not specifically for a system. ❯❯❯   S A H A
There should be also some mention of India in the first paragraph of the lead as not everyone may know that kolkata is in India.
 Done ❯❯❯   S A H A
Reference needed for second oldest in Asia claim.
Removed it. Couldnt find WP:RS.
"Previously, the Sealdah division was part of the Eastern Bengal Railway before the recategorisation." There is no need to mention both 'Previously' and 'Before the recategorisation'. I would suggest removing 'previously'.
 Done ❯❯❯   S A H A
Is there any recent history? everything here seems to be from ages ago.
nothing notable or well documented history. ❯❯❯   S A H A
"On the other side of the river..." What river?
Hooghly river is mentioned in the 1st para in the section. ❯❯❯   S A H A
Change 'line with a length of xxx km' to 'xxx km line' wherever possible. for example " The 108 km (67 mi) main line starts at Sealdah terminating at Namkhana railway station" "The second expansion is a 5 km (3.1 mi) extension from Kakdwip railway station to Sagar Island"
 Done
Many subsections in the Operations section is written like a guide (Services, Travel classes, availability). Please write it in prose (Tōkaidō Shinkansen can be used as an example). Please also remove the cruft in this section.
 Done ❯❯❯   S A H A
how is 539 million a slight increase from 112 million?
 Done ❯❯❯   S A H A
Smaller sections in the operations sections can be combined together to form a larger section.
 Done ❯❯❯   S A H A
Do mention the number of each type of rolling stock in prose.
 Done @Pentagon 2057: ❯❯❯   S A H A 18:42, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
for the Electrification and gauge subsection, please put the citations at the end of their respective sentences instead of lumping them together at the end of the paragraph.
 Done ❯❯❯   S A H A
What is an Omnibus circuit and a 'reisskilometer'?
 Done ❯❯❯   S A H A
Links in the see also section should not be found in the main article, so in this case remove kolkata metro and List of Kolkata Suburban Railway Stations. I would also suggest moving the see also and further information links in the history section to this section.
 Done ❯❯❯   S A H A
@ArnabSaha:  second look through the article seems good, but i would need you to clarify when the '25 kV AC traction was found more economical' as it currently just says later, and i cannot find a citation for the track gauge (correct me if i had overlooked it). Besides that the article looks fine and ready for passing. Pentagon 2057 (T/C) 14:55, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

@Pentagon 2057:, citation [9] backs this. ❯❯❯   S A H A 15:08, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
((reply|ArnabSaha}} I think you misunderstood me, the track gauge needs a citation, and i need a specific year for when the 25 kV AC traction was found more economical.
@Pentagon 2057:, sorry my bad. Added the year and added reference for gauge. Broad gauge in India is like universal truth. No other  gauge is used (except some tourist railways). ❯❯❯   S A H A 07:32, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Major issues with the article has been cleared up, will be passing the article. Pentagon 2057 (T/C) 08:40, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

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