# Talk:Line of Duty

@MapReader: I'm going to start a discussion in good faith rather than edit war. The first time you reverted my edit it was because it was unsourced. That was on me, I'll admit that. However, I found a source, cited it in the article, and then you reverted again for completely unrelated reasons. Why weren't your second reasons brought up the first time? I'll also point out that other fields, such as the genre, running times, country of origin, and the original language, do not appear in the credits of the series either. By your logic, each of those fields should be removed since the credits have the final say. The instructions at Template:Infobox television doesn't state that the showrunner has to appear as a credit, only that it be reliably sourced. TheDoctorWho (talk) 09:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

He’s already credited as creator and writer, one of three executive producers and one of four producers, and we know that the various episodes of each series were directed by various other people.  Creating a job title not listed in the credits doesn’t seem particularly helpful or add any value.  Showrunner isn’t a title in common use in the UK, where this series was made, and insofar as it has a meaning it covered the same ground as writer/creator/producer. MapReader (talk) 09:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Saying that "showrunner isn't a title in common use in the UK" is plainly incorrect; sources credit Doctor Who, Sherlock, Sex Education, Heartstopper, His Dark Materials, Victoria, Happy Valley, and Peaky Blinders as having showrunners. These are all British television series. This is just a small handful, but I would assume there are others if you took the time to look into it. Once again "Creating a job title not listed in the credits doesn’t seem particularly helpful" also isn't a valid argument because there are other "helpful" things that don't appear in the credits of the series. The field exists for a reason, you don't get to cherry pick which fields we use just because you don't like it. TheDoctorWho (talk) 19:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
I also feel the need to mention that the BBC refers to Mercurio as the showrunner as well ([1] [2]) which should be official enough? TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
@MapReader: it's been a few days without response while you have still been active in other areas. I feel that I have brought up some pretty strong points and sources to contradict your statements. This is your notice that withdrawing from this conversation will be assumed by me as a silent consensus and that I will reinstate my edits. TheDoctorWho (talk) 20:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Nothing but the original editor’s view, and a gap of a few days over a holiday period does not a consensus make.  As I said above, the multiple references to Mercurio’s roles in the infobox already cover all bases as credited. MapReader (talk) 05:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


### Request for comment: Listing Jed Mercurio in the Infobox as a showrunner
### Post-RFC break
@MapReader: We can keep dragging this out further if you want. First of all your edit summary is misleading. You stated "you don’t close if you are actively involved in the original". If you notice, there are no close tags on this discussion, I didn't formally close it. The bot removed the tag as 30 days has elapsed. WP:RFCCLOSE says "If the matter under discussion is not contentious and the consensus is obvious to the participants, then formal closure is neither necessary nor advisable." Consensus appeared clear to me and this is not contentious, hence why I added it. Secondly, you said "An RFC isn’t a vote. For what it's worth I am more than well aware. While I see how my edit summary could be misconstrued as taking a vote, I didn't intend that. I was simply trying to summarize the discussion in the simplest terms possible. I'd like to point out the additional wording at RFC close that says "Editors are expected to be able to evaluate and agree upon the results of most RfCs without outside assistance." TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)