# Talk:I Will Possess Your Heart

They really aren't necessary, and not very relevant to the main subject of the article. I am taking them down, but a link to the lyrics will be included. 
Hakeem (talk) 05:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I've yet to find a place to buy a physical copy of this disc.  Maybe the media should be changed to .mp3 if no one has one?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.101.183.79 (talk) 06:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC) 

I've tried to post the youtube link but it keeps getting auto-deleted.. Watching it on youtube is a much better experience than dealing with the mtv.com video player, IMO.  If anyone know how to get it to stick on the first page, here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pq-yP7mb8UE (it was officially posted by the band, its not just an MTV rip) JoeJoeJoeJoe (talk) 00:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia can link to copyrighted videos Antonio Lopez  (talk)  00:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Hold on I might be wrong since you said the band upload it. see WP:EL#Linking to YouTube, Google Video, and similar sitesAntonio Lopez  (talk)  01:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Can anybody find out who the girl in the video is? I can't find any information anywhere.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.130.225 (talk) 03:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC) 
Evan Rachel Wood.  Waiting for a reliable source. TelecomNut  (talk)  13:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Why is in the genre Emo??? thats shit
Who is the girl? A fan? A model?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.81.164.247 (talk) 20:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC) 

It is claimed that KEXP in Seattle was the first radio station to play this song, at 11:45.  The link http://www.kexp.org/playlist/playlist.asp?submitted=true&day=18&month=3&year=2008&hour=11 is Pacific Time (2:45 on the East Coast), approx. 1h11m after WBRU played the song.   TelecomNut (talk) 13:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:I Will Possess Your Heart/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 09:54, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I'm MarioSoulTruthFan and I will be reviewing this article.


### Infobox
Needs alt   Done
Needs border   Done
from Album → Album  Not done  I'm not sure what you're asking for here
Remove the "from". MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:55, 14 June 2016 (UTC)  Done I didn't realize that it was in the markup and not in the visible text.
Released → choose only the most recent date   Done
Length → Same as previous   Not done  The difference in length between the album and radio versions is notable
You are right.
Should use "flatlist" for the labels.   Done
Should use "flatlist" for the writers.   Done
I don't see any citation/reference of the genre of this song.   Done


### Lead
This lead should be more comprehensive of the article, it should be a summary of everything.  Done
I Will Possess Your Heart" is a 2008 song by American band Death Cab for Cutie → I Will Possess Your Heart" is a song recorded by American band Death Cab for Cutie.   Done
that was the lead single from their sixth studio album, Narrow Stairs. → date of the album release between brackets after the album. Needs re-writing.   Done
In 2011 Paste Magazine named the song one of "the 25 creepiest songs about love" → should also be below on the a sub-section under "Reception".   Done


### Composition
Section should be called "Background" or "writing and composition", something in this vein.   Done
You need quote marks "" on the sentence by Ben Gibbar.   Not done  Quotation marks are not used with blockquotes.
My bad, I didn't noticed it had blockquotes.
Harmer himself said of the bass line → remove himself   Done
You merged two sections "Composition" and "Background" into one, along with "Release". Is quite messy, needs some serious work here.   Done


### Music video
This section is just "huge" for this article. Take a look at the others paragraphs, this section is three times bigger the others.  Not done  This reflects coverage in the sources.  I don't think this section goes into unnecessary detail.
It looks better after division of topics and paragraphs. Well done.  Done On second thought, some basic facts about the composition were missing, and I think that does count as a "main aspect" of the topic.
travels, travels → choose other vocabulary. Trips instead, despite the words are relying upon the mean of transportation, be aware of that while re-writing.  Not done  This is a standard use of the word "travels".
I just inteded for you to use a wide variety of vocabulary. That is what I meant. Synonyms.   Done
After each city you should have the country. → Everyone knows where "London" is, but I'm not so confident regarding "Phnom Penh".   Not done  This would needlessly clutter the text.  The map makes their location clear, and none of the article themselves even have the country in the article name.
Yes you are right.
"The young woman was portrayed by Lindsay Burdge, who would years later become known for lead roles in several independent films such as A Teacher and The Sideways Light". → it didn't influence her choice for this music video since the movies all appeared later in her career. Not so sure why this is relevant for the article.  Not done  She's notable mainly for what she did after this video; there's not reason not to include this fact.
So after she was featured in this video she was cast to those movies?
Correct.  Most sources about her are in the context of those later films, and it was difficult finding a source that even linked her to this video.
said, say, saying → You know what I mean with this. Not done Past tense is used consistently throughout.  The single use of "saying" is a nonfinite verb clause, not present tense.
I jsut meat you need to use a wider range of vocabulary. Example replaced it by "confessing", "affirmed", "told"...and so on  Done Though I like to avoid using too many said-bookisms.
Do you need all those cameras specifications?  Not done It was discussed in the source so I decided to include it, but if it really offends you (or the future reviewer) I could remove the exact camera names.
It will depend after a more careful read. Since the section suffered several changes.
This section should be divided in divided "Background and concept" and "Synopsis".   Done


### Reception
Once again sections are mixed. → ""I Will Possess Your Heart" reached number six on the US Billboard Modern Rock Tracks, making it one of Death Cab for Cutie's highest charting singles to date." should be in chart performance a section that doesn't even exist here.   Done
Those awards and prizes should be in a sub-section called "awards", "recognition" or "accolades".   Done
Therefore the last paragraph should be on top here.   Done


### Track listing
The tracklists here appeared out of nowhere. References?   Done
Divide them into two columns.   Done


### Charts
Should use "singlechart" table.   Done
You need references for those peaks on the charts.   Done


### References
One dead link.   Done
Some dates inconsistency. Example give: 15 Apr 2008 vs. 2008-04-12. Choose one.   Done
Wiki link Billboard, Rolling Stone, Vulture and son on. Only link it once for each reference, the first time it appears.   Done
Some references are in italic, while others are non-italic. Example give: MTV News. In this case is non italic.   Done
HitFix → non italic.   Done


### External links
Fine.


### Overall GA review
This article makes me think that you have no idea the criteria needed to meet GA standards. I strongly advise you to look at others GA and FA articles for such.   Done
Missing sections like those I mentioned above along with "Credits and personnel"  Done and "Release history".  Not done The initial release dates of the single and video are in the article.  I don't think a laundry list of release dates in every country is really a "main aspect" of the topic.
The band never performed the song live or this song was never covered?   Not done  There are no live performances or covers that are have significant discussion in multiple sources.  Given this, I again don't think that laundry lists count as a "main aspect".
I have to fail this article, it's not even close to GA material. Please improve the article.   Done
I believe the quick fail is inappropriate, as according to WP:WIAGA it is only to be used "solely to deal with the occasional frivolous nomination... with a 'drive-by' nomination at which the nominator does not intend to respond to the review," and "in all other cases, the nominator... is given a chance to address any issues raised by the reviewer before the article is failed."  The issues above are in actuality mostly minor textual revisions and requests for references that are quite easy to fix.  I'd also like to point out that, with limited exceptions, MOS compliance is explicitly not part of the GA criteria.  I will be implementing them in preparation for a new GA review. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 00:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
@Antony-22: You still know that I'm not obligated to give you time, regardless. It looks much better now, you can nominate it for a GA review and it will certainly pass. Would you like me to review it again or would you rather wait for another reviewer? (I won't fail it this time around). MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:02, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for being gracious, I appreciate it.  I've finished the upgrades from this review.  I'm happy for you to continue reviewing as long as you are mindful of the limits of the GA criteria.  Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 03:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Alright, nominate it again and I will take care of it. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 10:31, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Nominated. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 02:04, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
@MarioSoulTruthFan: I apologize, but I just reviewed the article. I didn't realize that you were planning on reviewing it again. I am truly sorry. Carbrera (talk) 03:26, 18 June 2016 (UTC).
@Carbrera: it's ok, your review it's not far from what I would have done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 09:31, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:I Will Possess Your Heart/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Carbrera (talk · contribs) 02:41, 18 June 2016 (UTC)


### Infobox
Please use a "flatlist" for the "Format" parameter of the infobox   Done


### Lead
#### Paragraph 1
"Paste Magazine" --> "Paste" (Still with the link please)  Done
The mention of it being "named one of the 25 creepiest songs about love" should likely be in the second paragraph here, not the first   Not done This relates to the content of the song, which is discussed in the first paragraph; it is not an accolade, which are listed in the second paragraph.  I've restructured it to make this clearer.


#### Paragraph 2
What album the single appears from should be mentioned primarily in the first paragraph of the lead, not the second   Done


### Writing and composition
#### Paragraph 1
Reference #4 for the the block quote should be at the end of the block quote, not at the end of "He added:"   Done


#### Paragraph 2
""five minutes of build and then a three-minute song,"" --> ""five minutes of build and then a three-minute song","   Done
"Like the other songs on the album"... What album? You haven't mentioned it yet; you should probably reword the statement to "Like the other song on Narrow Stairs..."   Done


#### Paragraph 4
"It was released in two versions. The album version of the song is over eight minutes long, while the radio edit largely removes the instrumental introduction, shortening the song to four minutes.[6][7]" --> "It was released in two versions: the album version of the song is over eight minutes long, while the radio edit largely removes the instrumental introduction, shortening the song to four minutes.[6][7]"   Done


### Reception
#### Paragraph 1
Please add a lead-in/topic sentence to the first paragraph of this section   Done
Who from MTV News said of the song?   Done
Who from Rolling Stone "noted that the sense of menace in the song was...?   Done
Who from Blender concurred?   Done
"Paste Magazine" --> "Paste" (Still with the link please)   Done
Who from Paste named the song...?   Done


### Music video
#### Synopsis
Is the map really necessary?
The map expresses at a quick glance the geographic diversity of the places visited and the distance involved, much more effectively than can be accomplished solely through text.  I know it is unusual, but I believe it is justified in this specific case.


#### Filming
The screenshot from the music video is a bit large; could you reduce the size please?   Done
Remove the link to "Stable Song" as all it is is a redirect, and instead state what album the song was from   Not done As that song was a single it's likely notable enough for its own article; if that article is created, this link should go there rather than to the album article.
Rest is really good!


### Track listing
Remove the "(AT0310CD)" and "(AT0310)" please from the release titles   Done


### Charts
It's good, but you need to use the chart format per Template:Single chart.   Not done  It already uses Single chart templates except for the last entry, which must be done manually because the template doesn't have an option for that chart.


### References
Reference #19 - Discogs is an unreliable source   Done
Reference #20 - Discogs is an unreliable source   Done
Reference #21 - Discogs is an unreliable source   Done
Reference #22 - Discogs is an unreliable source   Done


### External links
There's an actual pre-made format for official YouTube videos that you could use (Use 4 in the Morning for an example if you wish.)   Done
Alphabetize the list of categories to the following please:   Done
"2007 songs"
"2008 singles"
"Atlantic Records singles"
"Death Cab for Cutie songs"
"Songs written by Ben Gibbard"
"Songs written by Chris Walla"
"Songs written by Nick Harmer"
"Songs written by Jason McGerr"


### End of GA Review:
A good article with just some minor issues. On hold for seven days so you can make any changes to the article. Please @PING me here with any questions, comments, or concerns. Thanks again! Cheers, Carbrera (talk) 03:16, 18 June 2016 (UTC).

@Carbrera: Thanks!  I've started implementing the changes.  One question, what is considered a reliable source for track listings?  Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 02:50, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
@Antony-22: You can use the release citation that I will demonstrate below:
I Will Possess Your Heart (Liner notes/ 7" Vinyl Cover). Death Cab for Cutie. Atlantic (Barcode: 75678-99387-9). 2008.{{cite AV media notes}}:  CS1 maint: others in cite AV media (notes) (link)
@Carbrera: Well, I don't have access to the physical liner notes to verify the listings, so I'd need an online source.  Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 03:42, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
@Antony-22: All you need is the year of release, band, title of release, form of release, and the barcode (which is available in the Discogs source). Carbrera (talk) 04:38, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
@Carbrera:  I mean, the track listings were here, unreferenced, before I expanded this article.  If Discogs is unreliable, then I'd need to find another reliable source to verify the track listings.  Amazon only has the US track listings so I'm going to remove the UK ones for now.  Otherwise all the improvements are done.  Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 01:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
@Antony-22: But you could use the Discogs' barcode for a last resort. Carbrera (talk) 01:11, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
@Carbrera:  I'm not going to cite a source I haven't seen myself... Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 01:20, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
@Antony-22: Are you done making changes? Lemme know so I can read the article over again. Carbrera (talk) 06:41, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
@Carbrera: Yep, done. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 04:39, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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