# Talk:North Staffordshire Regiment

I have assessed this article again and believe that it is still a Start class article. There is a lot of information in the article and overall it is well researched and referenced, however, it still needs a few citations in my opinion - I have added tags where I feel that they are needed. If the majority of these can be added in (one or two missing citations can probably be accepted for a successful B class review in my opinion), I believe that the article can be promoted to B class.
I have done a brief copy edit and fixed a few things that I feel needed fixing, however, a couple of other improvements that I would suggest are as follows:

Supporting materials: are there any images that could be added to illustrate the article?
Introduction: I probably wouldn't use the quote in the introduction. That is just my opinion, though. Whilst it is interesting, I don't believe it really adds to the introduction, which is really meant to summarise the whole article. Perhaps you could move the quote to the last section in the article and use it as a summary of the regiment's service?
Just a couple of ideas. I will leave the rating as it is, but if the citations can be added, I would be more than happy to promote it to a B class. If you would like more in-depth comments on improvements, you might like to add it to the list at peer review (WP:MHPR). Hope this helps. AustralianRupert (talk) 04:15, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Another suggestion I have is to merge the two battle honours sections you have for WWI and WWII together and include a list of all of the Regiment's battle honours there. I notice you mention a couple of battle honours won before or between the World Wars — Hafir, South Africa 1900–1902 and Afghanistan 1919, were there any others? For an example of the format I am suggesting, please see 2nd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment. This is just a suggestion, though, and whether or not you do this wouldn't impact upon promotion of the article in my opinion. I just think it would help improve readability. AustralianRupert (talk) 04:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
I've taken thus idea up (slightly more honours than 2 RAR :-) ) NtheP (talk) 19:20, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
The battle honours need references. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk |  Sign 18:43, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I've referenced the list but not one for each honour, the reference list would be far too long NtheP (talk) 19:20, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Nice, well done. I think a single citation for the whole list of battle honours is fine in this case, otherwise there would be a lot of citations. I have changed the rating of the article to a B class now. AustralianRupert (talk) 00:29, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, mate. I noticed that you have nominated this for GA. Just a couple of suggestions while you wait for the review to happen. I'd suggest trying to expand the lead a little if possible. That is something that I've had pointed out to me in the two GAs I have worked on. It can be up to four paragraphs long. Also I'd try maybe to find one or two more images to break up the text, although I imagine that it has not been very easy to find images that can be used. — AustralianRupert (talk) 00:11, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Looking good now. — AustralianRupert (talk) 23:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:North Staffordshire Regiment/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
I will be reviewing this article!  MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 20:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I've now finished the review, and the article will pass, subject to a few issues being addressed. Most of these relate only to clarifying small points in the text, and I've placed hidden comments in the text detailing my queries etc.
All addressed, I think NtheP (talk) 13:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
The only other thing I'd like to suggest is that in the "Battle Honours" section, another way be found to indicate those honours which are carried on the colours. The current ALL CAPS system looks rather clunky. Perhaps use asterisks to indicate those which are on the colours. Or bold? MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 07:36, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
This came up as part of the B class review where others thought the use of bold was clunky :)  Looking at other unit pages, where the differentiation between those honours carrfied on the colours and those not is made the use of capitals does seem to be the most commonly used method.  Perhaps something for discussion in WP:MILMOS? NtheP (talk) 13:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
In which case, leave it as it is! Only a minor point anyway. MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 07:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
will do.  Will probably raise in WP:MILMOS anyway. NtheP (talk) 08:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
GA review of [ this version]:Pn = paragraph n • Sn = sentence n

GA review (see here for criteria)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars etc.: 

It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

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The article implies that, by having 8 companies at the start of the war and only 4 in 1915 there was a drastic reduction in size. This is grossly misleading.
It is doubtful that the battalion had 8 companies at the start of the war - the reference is for 1908. Following the difficulties experienced in the 2nd Boer War by battalion commanders in controlling 8 companies, the British Army decided on a reorganisation. By an order dated 1 October 1913, the army decided to amend the structure of regular army infantry battalions from 8 companies (each of two platoons) to four "double-companies" (each of four platoons). This reorganisation was achieved by pairing up the existing companies. The four senior-most of the former company commanders took command of the double companies, with about 75%? being promoted to Major; the four remaining Captains became company 2iC's. [Even if a regular army battalion had failed to adopt this new structure by the start of WW1, the change would not have significantly affected the personnel strength.]
Yes, the battalion would have shrunk during the course of the war, but this isn't unique to this battalion or even just those in quite garrisons abroad. The authorised strength fell from just over 1,000 at the start of the war to just under 900 by the end (and most units on the Western Front and elsewhere were weaker than this). Glevum (talk) 14:26, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

I have removed the dubious bit. Dormskirk (talk) 14:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)