# Talk:Coldest Winter (song)

Contains original research, does not meet WP:NSONG, did not chart. Content can be incorporated into 808s & Heartbreak article, where its hardly mentioned.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.26.97.61 (talk) 18:40, 31 October 2018 (UTC) 

I propose to merge "Coldest Winter (song) " into 808s & Heartbreak. I think that the content in the "Coldest Winter" article can easily be included on 808s & Hertbreak, and the 808s & Hertbreak article is of a reasonable size that the merging of "Coldest Winter" will not cause many problems as far as article size is concerned. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:45, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Oppose Dan56 (talk) 22:37, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Coldest Winter (song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Zmbro (talk · contribs) 13:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm bored, let's do this. – zmbro (talk) 13:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)


### Infobox and lead
I've gone ahead and made a few changes myself
Rest looks solid


### Background and recording
"after persuasion from Malik Yusef" can we change it to just Yusef?
That's not his real surname, so the current version is preferable. --K. Peake 15:49, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Studios are listed here so why aren't they in the infobox?
 Done must have missed this by accident --K. Peake 15:49, 22 September 2021 (UTC)


### Composition and lyrics
Does Apple Music count as a source for genres?
It is the notes that are being used as a source, not the genre sidebar, so yes this is reliable. --K. Peake 15:51, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Hmm, I'll have to keep that in mind. – zmbro (talk) 19:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)


### Release and reception
Section looks good


### Music video
"written by Elderkin and he called it" feels like a run-on sentence; I'd reword.
 Done split into two sentences --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
"was featured more in it before parts were taken out" reads odd. There's a better word that could be used here, right?
 Done with changes --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
"said the mix is "gloomier and more foreboding" than the song" → "said the mix is "gloomier and more foreboding" than the original mix"
 Done with a change --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
"to the "dark" song" can we use a synonym for dark? So we're not directly quoting one word
"Continuing his review, Dombal" → "Furthermore, he"
 Done for the above --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
"She explained, depicting West's "own mug" being replaced with "a cleavage-baring, Leona Lewis look-a-like in the spooky, surreal vid" as a smart strategy from him" this whole sentence should be rephrased to something like " She felt that depicting West's "own mug" being replaced with "a cleavage-baring, Leona Lewis look-a-like in the spooky, surreal vid" was a smart strategy from him"
 Done with changes --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)


### Live performances and other usage
"campaign by performing the song" → "campaign with a performance of "Coldest Winter"."
 Done --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Why does this whole section use his first name? This can easily be fixed just by changing instances of "Donda" to "his mother"
MOS:SAMESURNAME, also Donda is introduced as his mother a few sections back so it would read awkwardly to all of a sudden use this instead. --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
"mock snow fell down" the second instance of "fell down". I'd use a synonym
 Done --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)


### Credits and personnel
Looks good


### References
Ref 3 doesn't need a location
This location is mentioned by the source, so why remove? --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
I thought Genius was unreliable?
WP:RSP writes against song lyrics, annotations and descriptions, none of which are used here. --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Hmm I guess it's good then. – zmbro (talk) 19:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Check for overlinking (see it on ref 10)
 Done must have missed that --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Is Mind Equals Blown reliable?
The website has a specific category for editorials, in which the article cited is included; this is clearly separated from other content to be clear about pieces that are usable as legitimate sources. --K. Peake 16:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Sounds good. – zmbro (talk) 19:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
What is One Country and is it reliable?
OneCountry delivers news on numerous topics, including pop culture and country music, with a team of various editors. The site is also used for prizes, but notice there is a separate domain for the news, showing the two are distinguishable. --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Sounds good. – zmbro (talk) 19:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)


### Final thoughts
Overall well done. Once these are resolved, it should be a GA in no time. Hope you're doing well man! – zmbro (talk) 14:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Zmbro I have now covered everything, do you have any concerns still? --K. Peake 16:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Nope.  Pass – zmbro (talk) 19:18, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Curt has commented on it in several interviews so it should be mentioned. Since Kanye did this track, Tears for Fears have used a bit of his track as an intro to playing "Memories Fade" live. Jules TH 16 (talk) 16:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC)