# Talk:Horizon Forbidden West

According to the OFFICIAL Guerrilla Games Twitter biography: "Amsterdam-based developer of... Horizon Forbidden West." Yes, this is the official title. Please refrain from changing it on Wikipedia. TheLastJedi (talk) 02:29, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Can you provide a link/?Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 23:35, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Horizon is not an An ARPG as insisted by playstation. And as such many ratings boards have come to the consensus that the game is infact a action-adventure game. They've reached that conclusion in a personal space and yet this place refuses to acknowledge that instead favoring PlayStations own definition. May I remind people that playstation has been known to lie about their products with things such as "only available on PS" or "only possible on PS" and still till this day prints 8k on the PS5 box even though the PS5 doesn't have 8k supp. I also find it weird that we're choosing to ignore professional consensus both on the definition of ARPG and on what genre the game is for absolutely no reason. I'm confused how people see the correlation between Horizon and ARPG's such as Diablo,path of exile or elden ring. I implore you all to do some research instead of just taking PlayStations words on things and or at the very least change it to action-adventure RPG rt Heithtrev (talk) 07:09, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi Heithtrev, we do not just go by whatever a developer or publisher says, we go by reliable sources. For a well-curated list of reliable sources for video game articles, see WP:VG/RS. Note that rating board ESRB isn't one. If you can find enough sources that describe the game differently, maybe it needs changing. But please don't be a WP:GENREWARRIOR. I'll remind you that there is a hidden note that specifically says Do not attempt to label the game as being an "action-adventure game [with RPG elements]" unless we have reliable sources stating this. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:05, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
could you possibly provide the sources typically used as the only sources I've found calling this a action role playing game are playstation and pegi and I'm just trying to find out how the conclusion was made to call this an action rpg thanks :) Heithtrev (talk) 09:12, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Heithtrev, sorry for my late reply. If you're new to Wikipedia, there's a whole bunch of rules and guidelines. If you like to see something changed, usually the WP:BURDEN is on you to show why it's necessary. But since you're new, I'll try to help you out.
Metacritic calls it 'open world action'
IGN sorts it under 'sci-fi, action, adventure, RPG, open world'
Kotaku: 'open world RPG'
Gematsu: 'action RPG'
Eurogamer sorted the review under the tag 'action adventure', but it doesn't mention it in text, but does say RPG
GamesRadar lists the game under 'The 25 best RPGs you can (and should) play right now'
VG247: 'medieval fantasy action RPG'
As you can see, there are plenty of sources that describe it differently, and not just PlayStation. I've pointed you to list of reliable sources, if you like to look up other sources, have a blast. Hope this helps. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 19:25, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Horizon Forbidden West/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: OceanHok (talk · contribs) 11:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: PresN (talk · contribs) 22:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Alright, let's review this! I don't use the template, but instead do a bulleted list of thoughts as I go through the article. Honestly, I don't have that much- stylistically you're wordier/more detailed than I prefer, but there's nothing wrong with that (and certainly not at GA), and the article is very solid overall. --PresN 22:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Did copyediting in place rather than listing it here. It's mostly tense issues.
"Melee combat is significantly expanded when compared with Zero Dawn." - we need a little more description of how the melee combat works in this game beyond the differences to the prior game.
Gameplay never defines what Aloy's Focus is (either as a game mechanic or an in-game item)
In general, the plot section uses so many Capitalized words and names that it becomes really difficult to follow. Consider if you really need to give so many specific details and names. It's also just long in general- WP:VG/PLOT recommends a 700 word plot section, and just the "Plot" subsection is 769, plus another 117 for Synopsis.
Synopsis for some reason gives a little bit of plot summary, not just the setting. There's no reason to be summarizing the next 4 paragraphs. Except does it? The "plague" is never mentioned again, instead the plot section says she goes to the Forbidden West to find a GAIA backup.
Tastes of the Seven Tribes got released a couple weeks ago (so it also needs a new source)
Reception feels a little scattershot, like every other sentence is about something else in whatever bucket that paragraph is about. I don't think it's an issue for GA.
You don't need to specify e.g. "530,454 units" in sales; it's over-specific. "over 530,000" is easier to parse
Used a random number generator to pick sources to check, and they all came back clean. Didn't see any non-RSs. Consider using the |trans-title parameter to provide title translations for the non-English references.
@PresN: - Thanks for the review! I think I have corrected most of the issues you have raised. OceanHok (talk) 11:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Tweaked some things; promoting. --PresN 18:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)