# Talk:Hugh McElhenny

David Eskenazi, Wayback Machine: Hugh McElhenny & the Kings, Sportspress Northwest, March 22, 2011.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hugh McElhenny/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: BlackJack (talk · contribs) 12:04, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


### Starting review
I'll do this one. Will start soon. Jack | talk page 12:04, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

@BlackJack: I think it'd be best to start with this one, if you will. Of the three it's the one I feel most satisfied with. Lizard (talk) 04:44, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
@Lizard the Wizard: Okay, I'll do McElhenny next, before Johnson. I've done Perry subject to one citation. Sorry, I've been short of time in the last week or so but I will get to them all. Thanks again. Jack | talk page 09:34, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


### Full review criteria checks
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for the six good article criteria:

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose is clear and concise, without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors: 

B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and embedded lists:  see below

Is it factually accurate and verifiable with no original research?
A. Has an appropriate reference section: 

B. Inline citations to reliable sources where necessary (e.g., direct quotations): 

C. No original research: 

D. No copyright violations: 

Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Scope: 

B. Length: 

Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias: 

Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc: 

Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
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B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions: 

The main part of the article is fine but I believe some work needs to be done on the introduction. With reference to WP:LEAD, it should really be "three to four paragraphs" (given that the article is 30k-plus) and I think it isn't quite a fully concise summary of the narrative. I'll leave it with you as you know the subject and I don't. Please let me know when you've had chance to consider. Placing "on hold" for now. Good work overall, though, and a very interesting article. He must have been quite a player. All the best. Jack | talk page 12:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

@BlackJack: I think it should suffice now. Lizard (talk) 20:06, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
@Lizard the Wizard: Sorry, I read the article again first thing this morning but had to go out and then forgot all about it! It's very good now and I am completely satisfied. Excellent work which deservedly rates GA. Well done. I'll look at John Henry Johnson in a few days, if that's okay. Jack | talk page 13:24, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

He currently isn't displayed on National Football League Rookie of the Year Award. Facts don't seem to be in dispute, but I couldn't tie this to a selector (UPI, Sporting News, etc).  
Potential supporting cites:

http://sportspressnw.com/2196330/2015/wayback-machine-star-of-years-best-alums
http://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/football-cards/1962-topps/hugh-mcelhenny-92/7993
http://articles.latimes.com/1985-01-20/sports/sp-10560_1_hugh-mcelhenny (also has a neat Super Bowl coin toss story with Pres Reagan)
Some have referred to it as a unanimous selection, but that article doesn't have 1952 support at the moment. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

I just asked Cbl62 if he could find anything. I was always under the impression that the UPI and Sporting News were the first to give ROTY awards, in 1955. Lizard (talk) 18:49, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Also, trading cards are usually terrible sources. For example, McElhenny and Perry never played together at Compton University. That's a misconception that was also in Perry's article. Lizard (talk) 18:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Agreed, included as directional support for the general research issue. UW Dawgs (talk) 19:03, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

He died on June 17th according to ESPN  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.122.216.158 (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2022 (UTC)