# Talk:Everything That Happens Will Happen Today

Hi. I've been trying to figure out if this is a complete listing of technical personnel, but I can't find a source for the personnel here. :) If that's complete, the article is a B. If it's not, it should be a C. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:27, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Personnel I got that from the sources listed; mainly Leo Abrahams' weblog. My guess is that is complete, but otherwise, we probably won't know until the album is released on the 18. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Procedurally, would you please relist this so I can promote it?  The referencing, prose, and coverage are all excellent.  Slight deviation from the manual of style, but I approve (being a hyphen Luddite).  One suggestion would be to fill in some of the redlinks, at least with stubs.  But that isn't an obstacle to promotion.  Fine work. Hamlet, Prince of Trollmark (talk) 22:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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Edit notice Please add an edit notice for this page consisting of {{AmE}}, so editors will know that this article is in American English. Considering the nationalities of the artists and its subject matter, it's reasonable that someone may think that it should be in British English. Thanks.  —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:20, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

why is it in AmE? openstrings 05:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
AmE Because I'm an American. Byrne is Anglo-American and the album was recorded half in the States and half in the UK; it would be entirely legitimate for it to be in British English and so I could easily see someone thinking that it is or should be. The only other time I have requested an editnotice was for George Orwell bibliography, where I am an American, but the topic is clearly about a Briton, so it should probably be in British English. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 Done. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 18:21, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the GA reviews transcluded from this page. Does anyone object? —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 18:24, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Sure Here's a link: Talk:Everything That Happens Will Happen Today/GA1, rather than a transclusion, for anyone who wants to read it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

One of problems is: A lot of underlines need to be removed. I added the Cleanup template as a result. 1007D (talk) 01:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

What? What do you mean? Give me an example, please... —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

As promised on User:Karanacs' talk page, I was interested in reviewing this article at FAC but didn't have a chance, so here's my look (briefer than I would like, but hopefully can give some helpful pointers in further improving the article. I'll see about going more line-by-line when and if I have time.) 

Media: Considering you have File:David Byrne and Brian Eno -- Everything That Happens Will Happen Today Album Cover.jpg, I'm not sure that File:David Byrne and Brian Eno - Everything That Happens Will Happen Today deluxe.jpg and File:Everything That Happens Will Happen Today closeup.png meet the threshold set by WP:NFCC.
Also, looking at the song clips, I'm not entirely sold on the use of File:David Byrne and Brian Eno - Life Is Long.ogg and File:David Byrne and Brian Eno - Strange Overtones.ogg. There's info on elements in the songs, yes, but considering there's nothing in the way of critical commentary to these elements in the article I'm not sure it then "significantly" improves understanding. On a technical standpoint, you could probably boost the bit rate slightly (to say, 96KBps) to clear up aspects of the song, and adding short crossfades to the beginning and end would feel more polished (e.g., File:Finish the fight-halo 3.ogg).
There's some weird linking going on: for instance, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts is linked (as it should be) in the lead, but not in its first mention in the body, then it's linked again far later. See WP:LINK on how you should structure internal links for maximum helpfulness.
In terms of prose, the main issues I see are convoluted sentence structures and unnecessary words. For example: "Byrne took a Compact Disc of the demos from Eno and spent about a year trying to write lyrics to finish the songs, attempting to balance the simple chords that Eno had written with the more complex ones that Byrne prefers." You can cut a word here and there and the overall effect is to make the prose much clearer, tighter, and easy to read. Words and phrases like "some", "a number of", "several", "a few", "many", "any", and "all" usually aren't necessary and can be cut. Take a look at User:Tony1/Redundancy exercises: removing fluff from your writing and follow along; it takes a while, but if you distance yourself from your writing for a few weeks or a month and come back, awkward phrases and fluffy turns of phrase become much easier to spot and kill.
Other prose things: by definition (or for encyclopedic purposes) a paragraph has at minimum three sentences: topic, supporting, closing/transition. There are places in the article where one or two-sentence "quasi-paragraphs" should be merged, expanded, or cut; for example, is the one-line "Although it was released digitally one day prior, this album is the second release from Byrne's vanity label Todo Mundo after Big Love: Hymnal; copies of the CD were catalogued CD-TODO-002" and the (unsourced) catalogue paragraph that follows really that important?
For the reception: name those critics! It's bothersome that quotes are thrown out but we have no idea who said what and how many people said what. "One weakness addressed by several reviewers"→which ones? Once again I'm going to point you to video games, but (IMO) the reception section to Halo 3: ODST show more or less the balance of how to generalize statements versus call out reviewers. Since we can't accurately give the consensus of all reviewers, or even all or most reliable critics, we've got to admit our limitations.
It seems odd to me that marketing and promotion comes after the "release" and "reception" sections; I really feel like it should be before (although maybe some of the tours should be split after).
I'll try and add when I have time. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
P.S., if I don't add anything, just know I'm not watching this page so pinging me on my talk is the better way to get my attention. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 01:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

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