# Talk:Castillonnais

Hello, and thanks for the translation ! The french article is not among our best articles on french wp, it need a good review too, but there's very few informations about this breed, who exist juste in a few area. So, very few informations (and nothing in english !) --Tsaag Valren (talk) 16:03, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Amelie! I figured that since it was a Good Article on the French WP, it was at least relatively good :) If there's anything I missed (or mis-translated), please let me know. Dana boomer (talk) 23:52, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Castillonnais/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs) 10:37, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
At first glance, the article appears to be largely in-line with the GA criteria. I will be looking at it in more detail shortly. I propose making minor copyedits and bringing any more major matters to this review. I was initially amused to see that the horses are used for logging and packing food, leaving me with a mental image of a horse working in a food processing factory!
Here are a few comments on the prose: Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

"Members of the breed are either dark bay and black, and have pangare color modification, " - Do you mean dark bay or black? Is the pangare modification optional? As it stands, this sentence is unsatisfactory.
I think I've addressed this... Dana boomer (talk) 22:00, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
"The physical characteristics of the breed are currently in flux" - Do you mean the characteristics have not been precisely defined? I think this needs rewording as does the related sentence in the lead.
I've done a bit of tweaking on this, so please see what you think. Basically, there is an official breed standard (what the ideal horse should look like), which breeders are working towards, but (and I'm heading into OR territory here) because of the low breed numbers and sometimes remote breeding locations, different breed lines can sometimes have some pretty varied physical types, with some horses popping up that look like straight-up Andalusian horses. Dana boomer (talk) 22:00, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
" Some Castillonnais are used for logging and packing food and equipment ..." - This wants rewording for clarification. Although the word "packhorse" is commonly used, my dictionary does not include "pack" as a verb with this meaning.
Done, I think. Dana boomer (talk) 22:00, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the review, Cwmhiraeth! I think I have addressed your comments above; if you see more that needs to be done or I haven't changed something to your satisfaction, please let me know. Thanks again, Dana boomer (talk) 22:00, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I believe that an article such as this that is partly derived from a Wikipedia article in another language should state this somewhere on the page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:05, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
According to Template:Expand French (which is what was on the page when I started working on it), the tag, Template: Translated page should be placed on the talk page, which is where it currently resides. As far as I know, I don't think I've ever seen this tag (or another translation tag) used on the article itself. Dana boomer (talk) 11:13, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
You're probably right. I have seen it but am unsure about the matter and cannot find the relevant guidelines.

Are there additional problems, besides the issues listed above that I believe I have addressed? I see that all of the points in the checklist are marked with question marks... Dana boomer (talk) 18:34, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
You were too quick off the mark! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:45, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Whoops, sorry! I didn't see that you had put up the table less than a hour before I made my comment. Thanks again for the review!! Dana boomer (talk) 18:58, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I have restored my last version. Here is a more detailed explanation of the changes I had made in my previous three edits:

This article was originally in CS1 citation style, and it was unilaterally changed to an outdated format style without seeking or obtaining any consensus. Foreign language titles should be translated to English. I have changed one non-standard citation to the more modern CS1 format in order to add a translated title to it.
The structure of this article should be guided by WP:WikiProject Equine/Horse breeds § Basic outline of articles. Specifically,
the 'characteristics' section comes before 'breed history'
the infobox should have two images; the first is a conformation image, the second an image of the horse in its typical use
top-level domain names of breed associations should go in the 'external links' section (and commons category is moved to that last section)
I swapped out three backlit images for better images. Backlit images are inferior to well-lit photographs, because backlit images typically do not show detail, only outlines of a horse.
I removed some overlinking, and wikilinked to some articles where appropriate (such as Horse trekking and Corsican horse).
I reduced some of the duplicative text that had been put into the lead, leaving just the summary.
I changed two of the {{ubl}} to {{hlist}} in the infobox because those items didn't need to be on separate lines, causing a longer infobox. I also remove some of the unused blank infobox parameters.
I removed 45em from the {{reflist}} because it is only a single stubborn editor's personal preference (who refuses to engage in discussion about why they do this), while it messes up the default formatting and individual formatting settings of every other user on the planet.
   ▶ I am Grorp ◀  23:09, 7 August 2025 (UTC)