# Talk:Mirza Shafi Vazeh

i think we need a few pictures in this page, isnt there a statue of vazeh in baku? can we not use that also? - Karabakh

The whole article has too many pictures, this has caused the eyes to get tired after a while, I think the pictures should be less. Thanks Amir Ghandi (talk) 12:02, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@CuriousGolden: thanks for your edit, now is so much better Amir Ghandi (talk) 12:12, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out a way to improve the article. — CuriousGolden  (T·C)  12:47, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Another problem with the article is that Mirza Shafi's teacher-student relationship with the Iranian-Azerbaijani writer Mirza Fatali Akhundov is not mentioned. Mirza Shafi in his poems considers him wise, mature and has a searching mind to liberate his soul. (Maryam B. Sanjabi, Rereading the Enlightenment: Akhundzada and His Voltaire). Amir Ghandi (talk) 12:27, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Do you have any online accessible source that I can use to add about that? Or if you want, you can add it as well. — CuriousGolden  (T·C)  12:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
(http://www.visions.az/en/news/469/f54688b3/) (AZERBAIJANI WRITER MIRZA FATALI AKHUNDOV SUMMARY) (https://aqreqator.az/az/cemiyyet/435043) and (https://hafiztimes.com/anam-az%C9%99rbaycan-dilind%C9%99-danisir-m-f-axundzad%C9%99nin-yaponiyadaki-varisi-il%C9%99-ekskluziv-axundovun-varisi-parsinejad/) Almost all sources indicate that he had a teacher-student relationship and later a friendship with Akhundov.Amir Ghandi (talk) 13:03, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
I've added Akhundov's student status to the Mirza Shafi Vazeh#Teaching_in_Tiflis section. Thanks for the help. — CuriousGolden  (T·C)  13:59, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
I personally do not see any particular problem. Amir Ghandi (talk) 14:21, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Mirza Shafi Vazeh/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 07:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Starts GA Review; the review will follow the same sections of the Article.  --Whiteguru (talk) 07:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

 


### Lede
Is it reasonably well written?
A reasonably good summary of the life and poetic works of Mirza Shafi Vazeh. I wonder about the inclusion of  Ivan Grigoriev.


### Life
#### Birth Date
Is it reasonably well written?
Whereas other sources claim Mirza Shafi was born in 1794 in Ganja, a strong refutation and citation of sources is given in this section. The section concludes (sensibly) with citation by Mirza Shafi's commander-in-chief.


#### Early Life
Is it reasonably well written?
The Russian conquest of the Caucasus features the fall of Shafi's father to impoverishment and death. Several sources are cited in rounding a conclusion that Mirza Shafi was "a kind, simple man who was Tatar by origin, and Persian by upbringing".


#### Education
Is it reasonably well written?
It is well known that Shafi made enemies of most of the local clergy. The influence of Haji Abdullah is strong and noted with regard to Shafi's continuing education.


#### Teaching in Tiflis
Is it reasonably well written?
Multiple sources confirm that Shafi taught oriental languages and calligraphy. Here is the beginnings of a time wherein Shafi's influence on Divans of the future was slowly being transmitted. His time teaching in the Gymnasium is also cited by many sources.


##### Vazeh and Bodenstedt
Is it reasonably well written?
Bodenstedt made Shafi famous in Europe
Bodenstedt's hoax is also well known.


### Death
Is it reasonably well written?
Not many sources cite the date nor the cause of death.
The location is often given some name of a garden.
Simple, and well scribed, well sourced.


### Literary Activity
Is it reasonably well written?
The most important section of this article
Addresses the mystery of poems lost and found
Unfolds the history of translations
Unfolds the character and writing of Shafi


### Legacy
Is it reasonably well written?
A good history, well illustrated.


### Notes and References
Is it reasonably well written?
All examined; appropriate


### External Links
Is it reasonably well written?
Noted

 


### End Matter
Is it is Broad in its coverage?
Yes, this is exemplary in coverage and history, yet appropriately terse and concise.

Is it Verifiable with no original research?
Yes.

Does the article meet notability guidelines?
Yes

Does it follow WP:NPOV Neutral Point of View?
Yes, quite so.

Is it stable?
957 page views in the last 90 days;
This page started life on 6 May 2006
Page has had 195 edits by 68 editors.
page is considered stable, no evidence of edit warring.
Top editors are
    * CuriousGolden
    * Mike hayes
    * Twofingered Typist
    * Rathfelder
    * Interfase

It is illustrated by images ?
There are many images, well laid out and appropriate to each section.
The legacy section images are both apt and very well laid out.
First image (a crop) is in the public domain, dated 1850
Battle of Ganja is dated 1893, so public domain.
Abbas mosque in Ganja is work of Dmitri Ivanovich Yermakov  and claimed to be circa 1900.
Gymnasium image is from Poetry of Nikoloz Baratashvili, Permission=PD-Ol
Page from the Chrestomathy is dated 1852, extract from филиала Академии наук СССР, 1938
Poems of Mirza Shafi Vazeh is dated 1890, source is above.
Vazeh and Bodenstedt image is dated 1850, Tausend und ein Tag im Orient, 1850
Three images in the legacy section are  Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International, and Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license.
All images are appropriate to the article.


### Overall
Well scribed


### Conclusion
 Passed     --Whiteguru (talk) 08:22, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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