# Talk:Nothing Was the Same

There should be "Girls Love Beyonce" on the list because it is a single from the album.
I put it on there and some person erased it

Its been confirmed that that song is not on the album at all, let alone a single.--Giants27(T|C) 21:51, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
This song is not on the album. Neither are the freestyles 5am In Toronto and Jodeci. The Motion however will be present on this album as it is in a sequence with songs from all of his previous albums "The Resistance" "The Ride" and so on. Most likely be found near the end of the album if not the last track. You must be very disconnected from the Hip Hop culture to be repeatedly adding these songs to the Confirmed Tracks list and going so far as to skip over The Motion. Someone this disconnected should not be editing a page such as this one.

Please stop adding Original research to the article. If you have a real reliable source that says the song will be on the album then go ahead and add it back. However 5AM in Toronto is sourced to a reliable source and you must not know what a "freestyle" is. STATic message me! 17:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Be back soon when The Motion is on the tracklist and 5am in Toronto isn't so you wake up for next time.
Is there a source for Moments In Time? The only time I've heard of that song was when it was on a proven to be fake tracklist.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.60.189.52 (talk) 23:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC) 

I missed that, thanks for pointing it out. The song has now been removed due to it being unsourced. STATic message me! 23:20, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm not understanding why the Complex Mag article was sourced for 5AM In Toronto when it basically proves that it won't be on the album. The only confirmed songs are Tuscan Leather and Started From The Bottom. Drake has not confirmed 5AM In Toronto, therefore it is unwise and misleading to others to post it under confirmed tracks. Julius Blake (talk) 19:32, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Originally the Complex article said that both "STFB" and "5 AM in Toronto" were on the album, however I see it was updated to just include "SFTB" so I removed "5AM" from the article. STATic message me! 19:42, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Recent information came today that confirms a sequel track called Paris Morton II. The interview isn't out for it but it'll be in Rolling Stone's September 12 issue.  Julius Blake (talk) 18:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Another song by the name of "Heat of the Moment" is on the album. Confirmed by Drake here. It features his father in some capacity but for now, I guess it could be left off. Julius Blake (talk) 21:37, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

It is already mentioned in the section. STATic message me! 23:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
It wasn't till after I made that post. Julius Blake (talk) 21:07, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
New song "Pound Cake (Feat. Jay-Z) confirmed here.  Julius Blake (talk) 20:55, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

This is a tweet from a producer who produced a Drake song that was thought to be a free giveaway but is actually an iTunes bonus song. He confirms the song will be on the album here. Title is Jodeci Freestyle.  Julius Blake (talk) 05:52, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Seems pretty unlikely to me, and the Twitter is not verified so we could not use it in any case, not to mention he did not even @ to Drake's account. If it does happen we can always just add it to the tracklist, it comes out in less than three weeks anyways. Thanks for coming to the talk page though, rather than thrusting the information into the article. STATic message me! 05:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
full tracklist actually out now  Julius Blake (talk) 06:42, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

"5AM In Toronto" should not be on the list as it is not on the album.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Princexhermes (talk • contribs) 06:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC) 

According to what source? It is sourced by a reliable source that it is on the album. STATic message me! 06:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
I'd say the general facts (it was released for free, it wasn't released as a single, the lyrics 'this shit could go on a tape') seem to outweigh one magazine describing it as a 'Nothing Was The Same transmission'. The overwhelming odds are that it will not be on the album, sources aren't everything.
Per WP:V and WP:RS, yes reliable sources are everything on Wikipedia. Citing lyrics as a reason that it won't be on the album is WP:OR and plain ridiculous. Just read the title of the reliable source "DRAKE DROPS SECOND NOTHING WAS THE SAME TRACK, ’5AM IN TORONTO’". It clearly says it right there and it is not the only source. STATic message me! 14:36, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Meh fine keep it that way. Just saying it'll get round to September and there's like 80% chance we'll be right and you'll be wrong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.9.14 (talk) 21:34, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
You can think whatever you want with your irrelevant made up percentages. Why would he bother to film and release a music video if he did not have bigger plans for the song. STATic message me! 21:51, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
The music video is just him smoking and miming the words it's not exactly elaborate. And of course it's a made up percentage, I'm just saying the likelihood is it won't be on the album. Anyway here's a fairly equal source saying it probably won't be on the album if it even bothers you - http://www.mobo.com/news-blogs/drake-5am-toronto. Unfortunately I imagine as a wikipedia user you'll probably just dismiss any opinions other than your own. Fact is was released for free so I don't think more will be planned, anyway have a nice life this is the last attempt I'll make to convince you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.9.14 (talk) 15:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC) 

I believe the IP is correct (I remember hearing the song is not on the album), but I can't find a source for it. However, it doesn't really matter much since a lot of the time, the tracks listed in the "confirmed tracks" section of these articles wind up not being on the album after all.--Giants27(T|C) 15:23, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Well if you have a reliable source saying otherwise I would be glad to see it and remove the information right away. I mean I would say about 60-75% end up on the album, but if a reliable source reports on it, it is the best place to list the information. STATic message me! 22:26, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Def Pen Radio confirmed here that the first official single from the album is called "Hold On We're Going Home" and that it will be released August 6. This both renders "Started From the Bottom" a promotional single and "All Me" a promotional track, not a single.Muthafuckaup (talk) 05:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

First of all, look up the definition of a promotional single. Second, "Started from the Bottom" is definitely the first single. Third, "Def Pen Radio" is not a reliable source according to Wikipedia, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources. STATic message me! 05:32, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

The cover for the album is up as the background on Drake's Twitter  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.212.46 (talk) 02:22, 22 August 2013 (UTC) 
Kadir Nelson's name should be linked to his Wikipedia page Gordonson (talk) 23:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Anyone know if this will be pressed on vinyl? I see Take Care was pressed – not sure if that was planned from the get-go, though. Thanks. Charger2 (talk) 20:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I would believe so, when Drake performed on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, Fallon advertised a vinyl of the album. I am not sure where we would include this in the article though. STATic message me! 20:57, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
I suppose it's not necessary in the article – I just want to know where I can buy it if it exists. The Cash Money website links right to iTunes. Most discography entries list out the formats and Drake's does this. It indicates an LP release however no source was given. Charger2 (talk) 15:45, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Please change the spelling of Greg Woffett, in the Personel Section to Greg Moffett.  Because my last name is Moffett and I would like the correct spelling on my credits.  Thank you!
Please Update album=Nothing Was The Same (Deluxe Ver.) top score 56 chart week by GAON date=2013-10-05 accessdate=October 19, 2013 (Korea chart) Thank you!
Gmoff (talk) 02:31, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

 Not done: The name is spelled "Woffett" in the source, in this case Allmusic. It is quite possible that this is a typo on Allmusic's part. Can you provide us a source with the name spelled as "Moffett"? You may also want to get in touch with Allmusic and have it changed at their end. Dana boomer (talk) 19:15, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

There is a long table of release dates in various, sourced to iTunes.  While the dates may be accurate, if no independent source mentions these dates, they are likely important only to those closely connected to the artist.  Just because something is true doesn't mean it is of sufficient interest to be in an encyclopedia article.  If the dates have some particular significance, music critics, journalists or other authors will have written about them.—Anne Delong (talk) 10:51, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

If "The" is part of the title of a magazine or outlet, then we should alphabetize it properly rather than ignoring the word altogether. We should be wary of this when alphabetizing the critic scores. --Bobtinin (talk) 02:54, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@Bobtinin: "The" don't count as part of the name of the newspaper or webzine. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 00:29, 8 July 2018 (UTC)