# Talk:Elmer Flick

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Reviewer: Secret (talk · contribs) 06:00, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
I'll be reviewing this article this week (after Manny Ramirez became a disappointment). I am familiar with the subject area. Secret account 06:00, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Comment to both the submitter and the reviewer. This sentence is needs a correction, "On July 6, 1902, Flick set a major league record with three triples in one game.[2] The record has since been tied by Lajoie, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Bill Bradley, and Denard Span.[10]". In fact, the news article used as the source claims that this record has been accomplished 49 times. The sentence should also read that Flick set the "modern-day major league record" as Bill Joyce hit four in a game during the 1897 season.Neonblak talk -  21:26, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Fixed that to better reflect the source. EricEnfermero HOWDY! 15:15, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay, decently written article with a few nitpicks.

"An injury to another player pressed Flick into a starting role, where he excelled." The body said it was an injury which lead to the retirement of a player that pressed Flick in a stating role, mention the retirement on the lead.  Done
"Flick's father also attempted to fly without an aircraft.[2]" How is that relevant to the article? Trivia not concerning Flick, remove.  Done
"In 1896, the manager of the Youngstown Puddlers of the Interstate League signed Flick without having seen him play." - Why the sudden signing?
Not sure. I took out the "without having seen him play" part. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:27, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
"..18 triples in 1905, one of his several productive seasons." He must have had productive seasons if he's in the Hall of Fame, redundant so remove.  Done
I would use a stronger citation for the trade for Ty Cobb information, why that one particular source (a recent human interest story) when its part of baseball lore?  Done (citation removed - next citation (SABR) covers it)
The article never goes into detail on why Flick was not satisfied with Cleveland? Was it linked to financial issues? Expand please.
Wish I knew. I'm looking for more info. I revised that with this edit to make it (hopefully) enough in case we can't find anything else. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:20, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
The Naps acquired Jackson from the Athletics in a trade, and had him replace Flick in the lineup" Who the hell is Jackson... full name please as it's not mentioned elsewhere in the text.  Done
We don't need to know what mycosis fungoides is in the body of text, the wikilink works, remove.  Done
While SABR sources are strongly hit and miss, it seems like Angelo Louisa is a valid baseball academic so I'll let that source slide.
Both images are free of use.
I do own the source the main book source Ghosts in the Gallery at Cooperstown: Sixteen Little-Known Members of the Hall of Fame and had used it for my article on Eppa Rixey. Every citation to the book source links to the content stated in the article, I'll AGF on the other book sources and I see no close paraphrasing concerns in the few online sources I checked. Secret account 21:40, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Addressed most of these and will begin looking into the remaining ones. Thanks! EricEnfermero HOWDY! 23:37, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Ok good enough, passing Secret account 02:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I just deleted a whole thing about how Flick was one of six Hall of Fame players who had never played in a World Series despite having played most of their careers after 1903--AS OF 2003. It was crazy outdated, but also just WRONG BACK THEN.
Players inducted before 2003 who played at least most of their careers after 1903 without appearing in a World Series:
--Elmer Flick, Nap Lajoie, Addie Joss (three mentioned by name because they all played for Cleveland together)
-Ernie Banks
-Billy Williams
-Rod Carew (that's six)
-Luke Appling
-Harry Heilmann
-George Sisler
-Rick Ferrell
-George Kell
-Ralph Kiner
-Phil Niekro
-Gaylord Perry
-Fergie Jenkins
-Ted Lyons
-Jim Bunning (that's SEVENTEEN)
The article it was citing is paywalled/subscription-walled. (Just posting this to A, justify deleting something 20 years old and B, because it was fun to research.) 2601:408:C402:AECC:BD45:B8A7:77C9:4388 (talk) 19:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Upon FURTHER research, it's possible the "six HOFers" was referring to those who'd ever played for Cleveland--Kiner, Niekro, and Perry spent a handful of seasons with the Indians. Combined with Flick, Joss, and Lajoie, that's six. WAY TO MISS AN IMPORTANT DETAIL, WHOEVER ORIGINALLY WROTE THAT. 2601:408:C401:2CCB:EC82:9F15:1C22:EF78 (talk) 09:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)