# Talk:Grim Reaper of Love

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Nominator: VirreFriberg (talk · contribs) 19:38, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 12:41, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar): 

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section): 

b. (citations to reliable sources): 

c. (OR): 

d. (copyvio and plagiarism): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects): 

b. (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): 

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/fail: 

(Criteria marked  are unassessed)
Hello it is a pleasure to be reunited again for this review, which I will go through today! --K. Peake 12:41, 13 February 2025 (UTC)


### Infobox and lead
I don't think the songwriters should be wikilinked in the infobox and prose when they both lead to the Turtles' main article after the band has already been mentioned
The second and third sentences go into too much detail for the lead which should be more focused on the song – reword to something like: "After the Turtles reached the Billboard Hot 100 with three folk rock singles composed by outside singer-songwriters by March 1966, the band's members were dissatisfied and they were inspired to write after their label encouraged them to write original material for publishing rights."
""Grim Reaper of Love" was written at night following one of the band's" → "The song was written at night following one of the Turtles'"
The uniqueness is not mentioned in prose as being in pop, in fact the body actually says rock and roll
I think the recorded sentence should be before comp in the first para instead
Mention in the sentence about reception on release what was praised about the song
Remove the last recording as the line-up part since it is not notable for the lead


### Background
Img looks good!
"that reached the" → "that reached the US" to specify where the chart is for
"had reached the top-ten." → "had reached the top-10." per MOS:NUM
"(both 1965)[1] and" → "(both 1965),[1] and" per American English
Remove speech marks around credibility since this is a recognized word and you use enough speech marks already
"the Yardbirds, the Animals and" → "the Yardbirds, the Animals, and"
Pipe B-side to A-side and B-side
"the release of the band's" → "the release of the Turtles'"
"guitarists Al Nichol, Jim Tucker and bassist" → "guitarists Al Nichol and Jim Tucker, and bassist" to be specific and remove links on any of the members


### Composition and recording
One thing I would draw to question from this point onwards is why do you variate between "Grim Reaper of Love" and "Grim Reaper"?
"written collectively by the Turtles' guitarist Al Nichol and bassist Chuck Portz" → "written collectively by Nichol and Portz" since you have already introduced these members
Pipe modal tuning to guitar tunings and one point to make, I don't think you need to use "for the song" at the end of this sentence when that is already implied
"aura of doom". needs a full-stop there to end the sentence
"to give White Whale records a" → "to give White Whale Records a"
Remove overly obvious wikilink on Los Angeles
"perform of the song," → "perform on the song,"
Remove repeat wikilink on electric sitar
[20][17] should be placed in numerical order
"by drummer Murray saying" → "by Murray saying"
I can't access the book, but does this actually read "when your clap" or "when you clap"?


### Release and commercial performance
Merely stating the song is being performed on an American TV show is not sufficient; you need to add what show this is which would also be in prose too and any relevance to the prose if the show cannot be named
"particularly Kaylan who wrote that" → "Kaylan particularly wrote that" as a new sentence to avoid a run-on
"fourth single throught" → "fourth single through"
Are you sure selected should not used instead of the term culled that usually refers to selective slaughter?
Pipe AM to AM broadcasting
"was considered a considerable chart failure" → "was a considerable chart failure" to avoid repetition


### Critical reception and legacy
"positive review in" → "positive reviews in"
Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine)
""all the ingredients of the group's" → ""all the ingredients" of the Turtles"
"released 2 months prior." → "released two months prior." per MOS:NUM
Quote box looks good!
"The song's co-composer Al Nichol has retrospectively" → "Nichol has retrospectively"
"drummer Don Murray left the band," → "Murray left the band,"
"Howard Kaylan and Al Nichol, most" → "Kaylan and Nichol, most"
"they would be" → "the band would be"


### Personnel
Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel


### Charts
Good


### References
Notes look good!
Copyvio score looks phenomenal at 5.7%!!!!
Cite Billboard as magazine instead on ref 3
Sources look good!


### Final comments and verdict
 On hold until all of these issues are fixed; took a few hours for this! --K. Peake 15:50, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
Hi again, @Kyle Peake (feels like we run into eachother all the time on this website). I edited the articles after your suggestions.
Changed the sentence "The Turtles perform "Grim Reaper of Love" on an American television show" to simply "The Turtles promoting "Grim Reaper of Love"", as that is what the source states. I know the image most likely was taken during the recording of an episode of Where the Action Is, but I've yet found a credible source to support this. VirreFriberg (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
VirreFriberg I have struck out the points that have been implemented and left the ones you have yet to complete; a couple of additional points is you should replace the title with "the song" at the Western Recorders sentence in the lead and do not wikilink Al Nichol/Jim Tucker anywhere since that leads back to the Turtles, hope you are well! --K. Peake 21:16, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
Kyle Peake, all points should be amended now, alongside with the sentence in the lead being re-written. I'm doing well, hope you're having a good evening as well! VirreFriberg (talk) 22:18, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
 Pass now, I hope you had a good evening and this article looks totally good well done! --K. Peake 09:08, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you, Kyle Peake! Good day to you! VirreFriberg (talk) 10:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)