# Talk:John Papadimitriou

Greetings. Just a handful of things, all minor points:

The link for the 1931 article on Lake Likeri in the proceedings of the Athenian Academy appears to be broken.
In spite of the name of the journal, Papadimitriou's article on Frankish castles in Byzantinisch-neugriechische Jahrbücher was published in Greek, not German. The title was Φραγκικὰ κάστρα καὶ ὀχυρώματα ἐν Εὐβοίᾳ. And vol. 7 appears to have been published in 1930, not 1929.
In July 1959, he uncovered two bronze statues of Artemis in Piraeus, alongside one of Apollo and a third of Athena. This is not quite right. The first two statues, which were uncovered by ditch diggers laying a new sewer, were the Apollo and the larger Artemis. A few days later, after Papadimitriou was called in to supervise further excavations, the smaller Artemis and the Athena were found. See Vanderpool's account of the discovery in AJA 64 (1960), pp. 265–267, which is probably a better source.
He defended his dissertation, on white-ground lekythoi, on June 12. As the title of the dissertation in the infobox shows, his subject was not white-ground lekythoi in general, but the white-ground lekythoi of one particular vase painter, Buschor's Charon Painter. The image currently in the article is a very nice lekythos, but it was painted by somebody else. Wouldn't it be better to choose an example by the painter that Papadimitriou actually studied? Buschor's Charon Painter = Beazley's Sabouroff Painter, and if you look in c:Category:White-ground lekythoi by Sabouroff Painter you'll find a bunch of examples, including this well-known one of Charon in Berlin.
All of Papadimitriou's Greek publications were published in polytonic Greek. But the list of published works offers a mishmash of forms, with two of the titles in polytonic and the others in monotonic. It's especially perplexing to see two articles published on successive pages in the same 1951 volume of Praktika written in two different types of Greek. There are two choices here: either reproduce the original accentuation in all cases (historically accurate), or convert all to monotonic (preferred by many modern Greek publishers). Both are acceptable, but a choice should be made and applied consistently, to avoid this unseemly tottering back and forth.
Choliamb (talk) 15:12, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

All on point as always, Choliamb. Done the first two (slightly rearranged to help me keep track): the others in the works. UndercoverClassicist T·C 06:37, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
One more thing, regarding the cave of the nymphs on Pentele. (I overlooked this the first time through because it was hidden in the section on Grave Circle B, perhaps not the best place for it.) I actually read up on this cave just last year when I was thinking about revising the dreadful article on the so-called Cave of Davelis, which is a bit lower down on the slope of Pentele. (The article is astonishingly bad; it appears to have been written by internet kooks who were chiefly interested in reports of military conspiracy and paranormal activity in the cave. Read it if you dare.) In the end I just uploaded my old photos of the cave and the quarry to the Commons and left the article as it was, because I'm lazy and really who cares? In any case, Papadimitriou did not find the cave of the nymphs himself; it was discovered by workmen who were opening up a new marble quarry on the site. As in the case of the Piraeus bronzes, P. was then called in to supervise the excavation, and he cleared part of the cave, but not all of it. See AJA 57 (1953), p. 281 and BCH 77 (1952), p. 202. It was reexamined and completely excavated in 1975, with an excellent, detailed report by P. Zoridis, "Η σπιλιά των Νυμφών της Πεντέλης", Αρχιολογική Εφημερίς 1977, Χρόνικα, pp. 4-11, available at the Hetaireia web site. (The Chronika are a separate section with its own page numbers at the end of the volume.) From footnote 2 in Zoridis I learned that in 1953 P. himelf published an article entitled "Οἱ Νύμφες τῆς Πεντέλης" in a journal called Ἐκλογή, but I wasn't able to track this down. Maybe you'll have better luck. Choliamb (talk) 13:36, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

No luck on Ἐκλογή (except tracking down an eBay listing for a different edition, which at least gives an idea of the sort of publication), but otherwise I think I've now got to and fixed all of these. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:46, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
The monotonic Greek all looks good now, but the link to the Likeri article is still a problem. The new link points to the Praktika of the Archaeological Society instead of the Praktika of the Athenian Academy. I think what you want must be somewhere at this website, but I'll leave it to you to figure out how to find the volume for 1931. Choliamb (talk) 23:21, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
It was -- now fixed. UndercoverClassicist T·C 09:21, 6 April 2025 (UTC)