# Talk:Gubben Noak

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 17:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Placeholder. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks, I'll respond promptly to your comments. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:37, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Glad to hear! However, wait until I put the review on hold. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC)


### Infobox and lead
By 1766, probably earlier → 1766, probably earlier
Done.
Most likely by Bellman himself → Bellman
Done.
Composed: by 1766 → 1766
Done.
The song is possibly the best known of all Bellman's works. → source?
Added.
One paragraph
Closed up.
The information backed by both sources needs also to be mentioned in the body of the article, once done remove the source from here.
Done.
Add to the lead the simplified and more innocent versions sung by children, as well as the recorded English versions of the song
Done.
 Done


### Context
At the same time as depicting this reality, Bellman creates a Rococo picture of life, full of classical allusion, following the French post-Baroque poets; the women, including the beautiful Ulla Winblad, are "nymphs", and Neptune's festive troop of followers and sea-creatures sport in Stockholm's waters → can you split this sentence into two?
 Done


### Music and verse form
Sample needs to comply with Manual of Style/Music samples
Music is out of copyright (PD is tagged) so length and similar considerations are not an issue.
You are indeed correct, sorry I'm used to work with more recent songs. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:41, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Add text to the audio sample to justify usage
Added description field to sample.
Wikilink rhyming scheme
 Done


### Lyrics
Remove the image, there is nothing said there that can't be said in the article
Done.
Wikilink Fredman to Jean Fredman
Linked.
on the mountains of Ararat, and as mentioned in → on the mountains of Ararat. As mentioned in
Done.
No source backing up all this description
Citation added.
"Gubben Noak is one of the biblical travesties that made Bellman popular during the 1760s" → the source only backs up the lyrics
Ref Lönnroth added.
 Done


### Distribution
Being somewhat afraid of the church, Bellman chose to first publish the song anonymously on broadsheets throughout the country; although it was generally known at the time who had composed the extremely popular song. → source?
Edited; citation added.
 Done


### References
Reference 3 needs page, there are 391 pages
Removed, it's not needed here as the biography covers this.
Mama Lisa's is a Blog, unreliable source please provide a reliable one
Removed claim and ref.
 Done


### Sources
Fine
Thanks.


### External links
Old boy Noah by John Irons → remove, unreliable source
Removed.
 Done


### Overall
Source check: 2, 3, 4, 7, 9, 11, 12, 14 and Old boy noah
Noted.
On hold, let me know once you are done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
MarioSoulTruthFan, many thanks for the very useful comments. I believe I've covered everything now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
I made some minor changes to the article, see if you are ok with those and you forgot to do some stuff. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Many thanks. Added a ref. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:55, 19 June 2022 (UTC)