# Talk:Elmer Stricklett

Not sure what to make of this [1] – Muboshgu (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

While some reports claimed that he took credit for inventing the pitch,<ref name=obit>{{cite news|url=http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/courant/access/920588542.html?dids=920588542:920588542&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Jun+09%2C+1964&author=&pub=Hartford+Courant&desc=Spitball's+Inventor+Dies+at+87&pqatl=google|title=Spitball's Inventor Dies at 87|newspaper=[[The Hartford Courant]]|page=25|date=June 9, 1964|accessdate=November 25, 2011}} {{subscription required|date=November 2011}}</ref> 
Other reports claim he was the first pitcher to master the pitch.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=PRciAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EKQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4848,5389890|title=Grandfather of Spitball: Elmer Stricklett Tells Story in Own Way|page=10|newspaper=[[San Jose News]]|date=December 23, 1931|accessdate=November 26, 2011}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|url=http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ExIbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vEgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1490,3223135|title=Practicing a New Delivery: Elmer Stricklett, of the Brooklyn Superbas, Has a Slow Floating "Spit-Ball" Among His Curves; Expects it to Fool the Batsmen|page=18|newspaper=The Pittsburgh Press|date=February 15, 1907|accessdate=December 6, 2011}}</ref><ref name=walsh/> Another theory is that the pitch was created in 1873, but Stricklett revived its use.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=pQ8bAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7kkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3529,8022362|title=First Spitball Thrown in 1873; Glycerine Was The Lubricant|newspaper=[[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette|The Pittsburgh Press]]|date=May 29, 1914|accessdate=November 26, 2011|page=16}}</ref>

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Reviewer: Wizardman (talk · contribs) 05:01, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
I'll review this article shortly. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:01, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Here are the issues I found:

"before joining the Dallas Colts of the Class-C Texas League in 1898." sentence starts with 1898 so redundant; perhaps just say" later that year"
Done. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:51, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
I would imagine the 14-1 record in 1899 is worth noting, though of course not every minor league stop needs the stats added.
Sure. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:51, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
"The Brooklyn Superbas of the National League drafted Stricklett from Milwaukee after the 1904 season." are you sure that's right? I don't think they had drafts back then.
Well, it wasn't the draft the way we currently know it. BR calls it the Rule 5 draft, so that's what I'll call it.[2] – Muboshgu (talk) 19:51, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
"He debuted with the Superbas in the 1905 season, and remained with Brooklyn through the 1907 season" He pitched three full seasons for Brooklyn. I know we can go into more detail than just this sentence.
Yeah, that was negligent on my part. I added his stats, including top ten finishes. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:16, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Did you check The Sporting Life sources? Found a couple that seem like they might have stuff, but I didn't look too closely; a good number of results though.
Haven't checked them. I forget if it was you or another editor, but somebody showed me where the archives are. Can you refresh my memory? – Muboshgu (talk) 20:16, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Probably was me; [3]
Probably. I bookmarked it this time. And it was useful, it turns out Stricklett played for a team in 1912 I didn't know about, and Baseball Reference didn't realize that this person[4] is the same person. I emailed their site with the link to let them know. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:45, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Nothing too major; I'll put the article on hold and will pass when the issues are fixed. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:10, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
One more minor issue: "In four MLB seasons, Stricklett went 35–51" I think this sentence could go at the end of the last mlb paragraph, since he played beyond that. I'd also prefer a bit more in the way of expansion before passing this. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 15:06, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I moved that sentence as you requested, and expanded the page a little more with some more statistics. I'm not sure there's more to add. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:56, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Looks good. It's probably as expanded as it's going to get, so I'll pass this as a GA. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you sir. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)