# Talk:Digital radio in the United Kingdom

I propose to merge the information from the Digital Audio Broadcasting article from the United Kingdom section, including the Criticisms of DAB in the UK into this article, as it is specific to the UK and would be better placed within this article, with the rest of the information on digital radio in the United Kingdom. I shall merge it in one week if there is no consensus to object to the merge. A small introduction should be left in the DAB article as per the other countries, with a link to this article for more information. --tgheretford (talk) 19:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I've rearranged the order of sections a bit, because the section about DAB was near the bottom of the page but sections above it were referring to DAB, such as Applications and Licensing etc, so I've put the section about DAB near the top.
I'll move the sections about digital TV up as well, but I'll leave things like DMB, because that's really a mobile TV system and doesn't carry digital radio as such. Digitalradiotech 17:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Just to add something: I've moved the DAB, digital TV and Internet radio sections to the top of the page because if someone visits this page to find out about digital radio I think it's better that the different platforms that radio is on are described at the top of the page, and leave the gory details about frequencies, multiplexes, multiplex licensing and such like at the bottom. These changes may require some of the sections to be edited slightly, but I think the changes make the page more user-friendly. Digitalradiotech 17:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I've moved the DMB section above the application and licensing section, namely to keep all the platforms in one place within the article. As there may be plans to use DMB for radio stations, it needs to be covered in the article, other than that, good work. --tgheretford (talk) 17:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough, although I don't think we'll see any radio stations using the DMB system in the UK. It looks like France will use it for radio, but we'll use DAB or DAB+. Digitalradiotech 18:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I moved the DAB band III table back up to the DAB section, it looked so out of place right below the DMB section, even if some readers may find it too technical, at least it keeps consistency. --tgheretford (talk) 01:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Additional information for article improvement towards good article status can be found at WP:RFF. --tgheretford (talk) 20:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Firstly sorry you have had to wait so long for a review. I have reviewed the article and found it to be of a good quality with all but a few exceptions. If these exceptions are corrected/answered within 7 days the article will pass, if not it will fail. For more details of GA criteria please go to WP:WIAGA. The article mainly needs tweaking on points 1 relating to style and point 2 relating to references. Please address the following:

In regards to point 1B on WP:WIAGA please expand the lead. See Wikipedia:Lead section for more details. Given the size of the article the lead section does not provide an adequate introduction.
Please provide reference for "In September 1997 the BBC announced its national DAB rollout plans and soon reached 65% coverage."
The following sentance is not well written please rewrite itm to make it clearer, placing the reference at the end of the sentance: "The two companies formed the Digital One ensemble, which began broadcasting on 15 November 1999[6] with 69% coverage and since then its DAB network has always been more extensive than the BBC's."
Please place reference at the end of the sentance: "Under a Maastricht plan in 2002, the UK also has L band allocations for local terrestrial DAB,[24] though there are no plans to broadcast any digital radio stations on L band."
Perhaps I missed it in the article but what is DAB+ ? DAB+ The following section states: "The Digital Radio Development Bureau released a press statement in January that it is likely that the UK will add the DAB+ standard between 2010 and 2013.[28][29] Ofcom have said that the UK will switch to DAB+, but not until the vast majority of radio sets can work with DAB+." Please add what DAB+ is to the section to help clarify.
Aside from those few points the article is good and the references are okay. Please let me know when you have addressed these concerns and drop me a message if you have any queries or concerns. Thanks. LordHarris 15:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing the article and noting down the few concerns with the article. I hopefully have addressed these concerns and I have sent you a message on your talk page, inviting you to review the article again. --tgheretford (talk) 19:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Looks good to me, GA status confirmed. As for further suggestions for improvement I suggest going through a Wikipedia:Peer review as the article might reach FA status and some more input form other editors is a good start to that. LordHarris 20:58, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks very much. --tgheretford (talk) 21:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 21:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Why is the irticle larger thsn thje artile on [digital radio] if this is more or lesa a sub-article? Tihn asrtcle doaen't need toos be shrterned, but pejhas the otther ones can be elongated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.229.57 (talk) 08:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC) 

The Government has mercifully postponed digital switch over (I sit here listening to an FM channel on my DAB radio, as the digital channels are unavailable, unlistenable or in 'glorious mono'). This article seems to ignore this and sit in a universe where the populace has been brainwashed into accepting the 'love of digital radio' and its crap performance.
Can it be updated by an expert to explain why and for how long the switchover has been delayed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.139.239 (talk) 14:56, 4 October 2014 (UTC) 

The section on DAB+ seems to have been edited by someone with an extreme dislike of DAB+. There are repeated references to the opinions of "the industry and experts" which are not supported by the sources and is a pretty vauge citation. Any objections to me replacing this section with something that feels less like it was written by the We Hate DAB+ Club? Zombywuf (talk) 09:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

The article comments on the shockingly low audio quality of DAB radio compared with FM.  Many radio stations are also available on Freeview, on channels 700+.  It would be good to know if these are of equally low quality.  If they use the same channel width as the TV channels they ought to be considerably better, but who knows what the powers that be have wished upon us?  Can anyone provide the information? --Brian Josephson (talk) 21:11, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Naturally, the sound quality will be kept low so people don't record music from it in preference to buying music. That's fair enough on the part of the music publishing industry otherwise they'd be giving away music every day. For myself, I regularly listen to DAB ion a car radio and you can tell when it automatically switches from FM to DAB and back as reception on the move varies. With a good, strong FM, DAB sounds clearer and has better detail. --ToaneeM (talk) 07:53, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

The 'Criticism' section states that "a large and growing number of music stations are only transmitting in mono". This referes to a 2007-odd news article on the subject. I've listened to DAB only in the car for one or two hours a day for the last three years. I've not heard a DAB transmission from a mono station yet. Unless anyone object, I'll scrub this line from the article.--ToaneeM (talk) 07:57, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

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