# Talk:Disgraced


### CSD
According to the logs, this article was deleted on 01:40, 23 June 2011 by Gogo Dodo (talk · contribs) as a WP:CSD#A7 (Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  13:12, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Quadell (talk · contribs) 23:49, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Nominator: TonyTheTiger
Hello again. This looks like a fascinating play, and the article is a strong GA nominee. Most of the GA criteria pass right away, but I have found a few issues.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 
All issues have been resolved, and I'm happy to promote this article.  – Quadell (talk) 20:14, 6 December 2013 (UTC)


### Outside opinions
I always welcome outside opinions, though I will pass or fail this article based on my own assessment of whether the article fulfills our GA criteria.  – Quadell (talk) 14:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

FYI, Ssilvers always has a lot of commentary on the plays and musicals. I suspect he may have more comments than you. He always is of the opinion that there is a lot more work to meet his standards. Expect a 2nd opinion regardless of what you think about this. He is also likely to help me respond to your concerns.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:19, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I have been summoned!  I don't care about this article, but it is not GA quality yet.  Just looking at it for 2 seconds, I see that it does not have an adequte WP:LEAD section or plot summary, and little discussion of the original production: how was it designed and staged?  How did the staging illuminate the themes?   -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:53, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Don't care about Pulitzer Prize-winner? Given some of the small-time things that I have done that you have spent time with, I am a bit surprised. Well, I didn't want to sneak one past you since you always seem to want to comment. Feel free to go back to whatever you were doing.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:28, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I've read the article. It is not well written and fails to engage the reader. Also noticeable lack of images from either production or the cast.Turnitinpro (talk) 02:14, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Lack of images is irrelevant to a WP:GAN. Not sure where engaging the reader falls in relation to WP:WIAGA.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:26, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Images are the 6th criteria for WP:GACR. Failed to engage me because prose lacked something in its clarity and brevity.Turnitinpro (talk) 03:45, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Images have never been required for a WP:GAC. If you have them they have to follow WP:GACR, but they are not required.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Prose suggestions welcome.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Turnitinpro, Your edits [1] have now screwed up the template at the top twice. What are you doing?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
There's an HTML error in the template. WTF is ""? It was deprecated in 2004, W3C fought over it and then it got back as "" in 2009. I use a proprietary (non-free) browser purchased in 2007 which can't abide sloppy coding.Turnitinpro (talk) 12:58, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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