# Talk:Mendy Rudolph

Is there any reference for this passage?
"While Mendy was famous as a basketball referee, he was also a television time salesman for many years. He started in television sales in 1960 representing Channel 13 in New York when it was still a commercial TV station and owned by his brother-in-law, Ely Landau.
When Ely Landau sold Channel 13 in the early 1960's to Public Television, Mendy went over to the TV sales staff of WGN-TV, a Chicago television station, as their New York sales representative and worked there for almost 20 years until his passing."
This is a good piece of information and would be great if there was a source. RyguyMN 18:42, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

The section on his gambling problem needs to provide some context or relate to the other sections in a better way. It might help in particular to mention when he had this gambling problem. This would immediately make it obvious which section to link to.

 Done  Clarified when gambling problem took place. RyguyMN 06:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The section on other professions is too much like a stub. Best to integrate it in one of the existing sections. Like the above comment, knowing when he held the job may also be useful. Chensiyuan 13:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll look to see where I can put this sentence within the article.  Maybe it's best to remove it completely? RyguyMN 06:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
If taking it out does not dilute the value of the article, then I think it's fine taking it out, at least for now. This is also assuming you can't find a good place to fit the info. Chensiyuan 06:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Well sourced, no obvious POV problems and what seems to be a good depth of coverage. I have a few comments for things which could improve the article further, most of which relate to the writing style.

A lot of sentences use "and" to link ideas, which sometimes results in run-on sentences e.g. By 1975, Rudolph's health condition began to deteriorate and was forced to retire after suffering a blood clot in his lung during a 1975 NBA playoff game between the Buffalo Braves and Washington Bullets, played 25 April 1975.
 Done I've attempted to split run-ons. A different set of eyes might want to confirm I got them all. RyguyMN 04:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
At age 20, he was recruited to referee games alongside his father in the Eastern League, during the late 1940s and early 1950s. - you can't be age 20 over a span of several years.
 Done  This sentence was re-written. RyguyMN 04:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
The latter told Auerbach if he did not shut up, he would be knocked down to the floor with Lovellette. Is that a quote? If it is, quotation marks should be used; if it isn't, more formal language should be used.
 Done The phrase shut up was placed in quotes. RyguyMN 04:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
It would be useful to state when the NBA Official’s Manual and Case Book was first published.
By the early 1970s, Rudolph encouraged the league to adopt a plain gray referee uniform over the traditional "zebra" shirt to de-emphasize the presence of officials in games. - this could do with saying whether or not he had any success.
 Done Added that he was successful with his efforts. RyguyMN 04:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Euphemisms such as "passed away" should not be used when describing death (see here).
 Done Changed "passed away" to "died". RyguyMN 16:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
The "action shot" image should probably be re-uploaded at a lower resolution to ensure the validity of the fair use rationale. Oldelpaso 21:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm presuming the first marriage ended in divorce? Unless we want people thinking he was a bigamist it might be a good idea to mention that. John Carter 16:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyedited this section for clarity. Thanks for the comment. RyguyMN 16:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Mendy Rudolph/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.
This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Jackyd101 (talk) 16:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS): 
Prose is far from excellent, probably only a 5/10 in places. Nevertheless, I think it is good enough for GA.--Jackyd101 (talk) 16:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
This qualifies comfortably but I would be interested in more information about his gambling addiction and the effects on him and his family.--Jackyd101 (talk) 16:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
a (fair representation):  b (all significant views): 
It is stable.

It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
a (tagged and captioned):  b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales): 
Overall:
a Pass/Fail: 

There is inconsistent ratings on this article. GA & A. I see the GA & A review comments. Also I am concerned that no alt text is on any of the images. I thought this was a A-class requirement. My quick run over indicates that GA is warranted, but I have a concern over the GA/A rating issues along with the alt text item. Not enough concern to ask for a formal review, but I think it needs to be addressed. Jrcrin001 (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm more worried about the prose and comprehensiveness. For example, the paragraph on his gambling needs copy-editing and the names of his first wife and their three children are missing. DrKay (talk) 07:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

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