# Talk:KTUL

Is that list of former personalites serious? come on people.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cup2avs9601 (talk • contribs) 

Hmmmm.....seems like we have a disgruntled former employee on our hands. So sad. I'm considering not even bothering to post warning templates on the talk page of the vandal with the wandering IP number who appears to be obsessed with this article. I think in future I'll simply gain my satisfaction by watching those dull old nuggets get reverted fairly quickly by someone, if I'm lucky I'll get to do it myself, this silly game apparently will never end, oh well. Have fun. Deconstructhis (talk) 19:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm a former employee and not disgruntled at all!  KTUL-TV (Kent Doll) gave me my first TV job out of college.  As a radio/TV major at OU, I was thrilled to be able to get started in my home town market, even though I was a studio camera operator.  I've now been in television for over 30 years!  I wonder what ever happened to Mary Rose?  She was married to Charley Rose at the time and I ran camera for her when whe was the weekend co-anchor.  Mark Solow  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.74.233.233 (talk) 19:46, 9 October 2009 (UTC) 

Hello, Please do not add unreferenced names as entries to the list of former employees in articles. Including this type of material in articles does not abide by current consensus and its inclusion is strongly discouraged in our policies and guidelines. The rationales are as follows:

WP:NOT tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information."  As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.
As per WP:V, we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced.
WP:NLIST tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article.
Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.
If you look at articles about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable.  Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of names, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). If a preexisting article is already in the encyclopedia for the person you want to add to a list, it's generally regarded as sufficient to support their inclusion in list material in another article.  cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 05:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

According to a Youtube video (KTUL-TV Spanish-language commercials, search for it on Youtube), KTUL-TV was most likely a part time Univision affiliate around 1989 and 1990 based on what I found, but I can't say for sure this is verifiable enough. The video's commercials tend to come from Miami, Florida and this tells me it was a satellite feed from their Univision affiliate. The article does not say KTUL-TV has an Univision subchannel right now either and Univision in Tulsa is on KUTU-CD 25. 2605:E000:FDCA:4200:613F:2DF8:D15B:5AA2 (talk) 22:48, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

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I need to remove a show on Programming that is no longer on the station, please. UnionOK (talk) 16:01, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

"most television sets on the retail market then were not equipped with UHF tuners (this situation would not change until after the FCC passed the All-Channel Receiver Act into law in 1961)."
The FCC does not pass legislation. Congresscritters pass legislation.
Furthermore, the law may have been passed in 1961, but the requirement that new TV's actually have the tuners only took effect starting with the 1964 models. 66.102.87.40 (talk) 19:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 16:11, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:KTUL/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 17:33, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: OlifanofmrTennant (talk · contribs) 00:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Always love reviewing Oklahoma articles

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
a (reference section):  b (inline citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 


### Lead
Shouldn't Coweta be listed as Coweta, Oklahoma for consistency?
It's probably implied in this circumstance.


### Early history in Muskogee
Maybe pipe link John Toole "J. T." Griffin to Griffin Media.
The first time UHF is mentioned it should be "Ultra high frequency (UHF)"
in "Muskogee Phoenix and Times-Democrat" only the former should be linked as Times-Democrat isnt mentioned at target
That's how the paper was published. It looks like the deficiency is in the article on the newspaper, unfortunately. The papers were merged and apparently published as the Phoenix and Times-Democrat into the new millennium. The Times-Democrat appears to have been the afternoon sister to the morning (Daily) Phoenix for many years.


### Transfer to Tulsa
The title of the section seems misleading, has it been transferring to Tusla since 1957?
I intended some level-2 headers here. Oops. I've raised the L3s to L2s.
"conflicts in other markets where Allbritton and Sinclair each owned stations" how did them owning other stations conflicts with the Tusla one?
Not conflicts with KTUL but between Allbritton and Sinclair in other markets that delayed processing of the deal. I could tell you a lot about some of the bizarre things they were proposing!


### Newscasts
"Where KTUL had remained a strong second-place contender after being surpassed by KOTV in the mid-2000s, its ratings fell off after that." did it stay strong or not?
"You Make the Call" if it was relaunched in 2012 when did the original run end
You misread this. The show was on the air as You Make the Call 1998–2012 and renamed/reformatted in 2012 while remaining a sports show.
"and was later honored with an "Angels in Adoption" award by the Congressional Coalition on Adoption Institute" was Howard or Lambert given the award?
Lambert


### Non-news programming
The sentence is a bit long, can it be broken up?
"as of September 2017, it is currently" so currently or as of September 2017?
Also allegedly 2017 was 8 years ago. Is there any new info to update this?
"Keith Taylor, Erin Christy and meteorologist Molly McCollum" how come only McCollum gets a listed profession?
Whoa, this section definitely needed to just go. Not only is it out of date particularly after having the news department gutted in 2023, it's cited to TV listings. It may help to explain that KTUL is different from most GAs I bring forth in that it is a major size reduction. The editor who wrote most Oklahoma TV station pages and some in other markets, mostly the South, has the densest, cruftiest possible style, despite some good references in the mix, and his pages are very tough reads (try reading KOTV-DT, I dare you!). Prior to being GAN'd, KTUL was "sheared" and decreased in readable prose size by 56%. In other words, the article is less than half of its pre-shearing size.


### Notable former on-air staff
Looks good 


### Technical information
Obviously I know what multiplexing is, but for those who don't, not me, could you define it.
That's why we have an article linked here.
In this context what's a translator
That really needed a link like in most other articles.


### Misc
Only one images is used, its at commons and has alt text.
Stable last talk page edit was two years ago
The Pictorial Press should be linked in the citation for consistency
Checked non newspaper.com sources as I don't have a subscription to newspaper. Everything lined up Im going to AGF that the Newspapers are accurate.
All the Newspapers.com items are clipped so you or any other user can view them. And since you're an active editor, you are eligible for Newspapers.com through WP:TWL. I don't know if it'd be more useful in your topic area, but it's the reason I'm this active of an editor.
Those are my notes ping when done. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
@OlifanofmrTennant: Changes done. Read my note about this being a "sheared" page. If this topic area interests you, there is no shortage of massive work required (particularly in Oklahoma!) to shear the very bloated sheep. The OKC and Tulsa network affiliates, aside from ones I've worked on, all suffer from this. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Yeah that's a familiar feeling Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
@OlifanofmrTennant Do you plan on passing or is there still something to do? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh I totally forgot sorry I’ll do that now. Article checks out the only thing that could maybe be expanded on is the conflicts between the companies because currently its somewhat vague Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:00, 8 January 2025 (UTC)