# Talk:My Neighbor Totoro

It has some striking similarities with Alice in Wonderland; I'm not sure if/where to include it, but some sources that may help: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]
Gabriel Yuji (talk) 03:08, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

@Gabriel Yuji: This information is certainly interesting, and I think a sentence mentioning it could be fit somewhere in the Reception section, though I'm not sure exactly where. Links 4 and 5 seem like WP:SELFPUB, by the way, so I might not include them. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:54, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey Poirot09, I don't think the phrase "cult following" should be used in the lead at the moment, as the phrase is never used later in the article. I also could not find a source that uses this specific phrase, which is why I let DBeyer2003's edit stand. Let me know what you think! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 12:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

After re-reading the article, I think the phrase should be outright removed. There is no substantial information regarding the fandom, only about Totoro's impact as a character, which is already covered in the lead. Poirot09 (talk) 13:22, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
I think that makes sense. Lacking any significant discussion in the body, there's no reason for it to remain in the lead. I'll go ahead and remove it. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:18, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

I've noticed that one of the sources in the legacy section (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i3338808b4eeae51f3a3a1b041eee3d7c/) has been tagged as dead since last year, is there a way we could deal with this? Blue Jay (talk) 10:35, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

@Sjones23:
I had already laid out an argument for a cultural references section in my preceding edit summary:

Articles for Mickey Mouse, Wicked (musical) Paris Hilton, Lorde, and Phil Collins indicate that prominent parody/reference on South Park is not too trivial for mention in a Wikipedia article. Plenty of other articles on Wikipedia indicate that a film’s subsequent reference by other works is often a noteworthy aspect of its legacy. This is not at all akin to the examples of what MOS:POPCULT urges against . POPCULT makes note that there is such as [thing] as a "good 'Cultural references' section

@TechnoSquirrel69:'s edit not only removes a single-sentence noting prominent inclusion in a South Park episode (something which has merited similar mention in the articles of a variety of other subjects, including assessed good and featured articles), but also removed from the article already-existing mention of cameos for the character in Pixar's Toy Story films, something that had been included in this article since 2020, including in the version that was assessed as a "good article" in 2023. SecretName101 (talk) 07:50, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

@SecretName101: Thanks for bringing this to the talk page. The first paragraph of MOS:POPCULT states "Cultural aspects of the subject should be included only if they are supported by reliable secondary or tertiary sources that discuss the subject's cultural impact in some depth. The mere appearance of the subject in a [work] is insufficient". None of the sources used to verify the disputed content focused on the legacy of My Neighbor Totoro, they were more about the works in which Totoro was appearing. Additionally, at least two of these sources were interviews, which are primary sources. That led me to conclude these weren't important enough to include in this article, though they may be appropriate somewhere else. I'm not surprised this detail wasn't brought up during the GAN review, since compliance with that section of the MOS is not required in the good article criteria. For future reference, § Build consensus of the verifiability policy asks that the editor arguing for inclusion be the one to establish a consensus on it. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:37, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Note that I just removed The Huge Tree in the Tsukamori Forest - My Neighbor Totoro, from the OST.ogg from the article and nominated it for deletion at Files for discussion. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:16, 16 November 2025 (UTC)