# Talk:Hussein of Jordan

The article, especially the intro, looks like it was written by a pro-Hussein propagandist. The intro is filled with poorly referenced propaganda. Also, sections in which he should appear less than perfect to a pro-democracy Westerner, such as should be found in the Six-Day War, Black September, and The Gulf War sections, is minimal. Also, the article focuses on relatively unimportant. Hussein was the de facto and de juro king of an important country of six million citizens for 63 years, yet the half the article is about his personal life, family, and death. I'll help try to fix this.  dmyersturnbull   ⇒ talk 05:36, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, there have been some corrections made, but if anything the history of King Hussein's reign now reads as if written from a very particular political POV. The reference to Black September suggests he called the US and Israel on the phone and agreed to throw the Palestinians out. The link to the main article is there, but the summary omits the reasons for conflict between several Communist Palestinian groups and a nearly absolute monarchy.EclecticGeek (talk) 01:28, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

I just completed a major edit of this article to get it to standards.  I removed much of the unencyclopedic material and controversial claims.  I removed most of his speeches, only noting that he made them (if they were notable) and added qualifiers to other claims. Although it is still not a very good article, I think it should be an improvement. If anyone feels that these edits were unfair feel free to revert and we can discuss. But as I noted before, I think it is better now than it was before.  Poyani (talk) 21:41, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

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There is even a pretty little footnote given linking an article to cite this statement. Except that the article on the other end of the link says nothing of the kind. It is a reference to an article about Nasser and Hussein meeting to sign their treaty prior to the Six Day War. Nasser is quoted saying a couple of things, but the words "imperialist lackey" aren't there. This should be marked "citation needed" at least, and removed if an accurate citation is not provided in support.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by EclecticGeek (talk • contribs) 01:32, 17 March 2011 (UTC) 

I just did a quick google search and this source came up.  Feel free to add it. Although, instead of "had often referred to" it should probably say "had previously referred to".  Poyani (talk) 21:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Right now there is a link to the main article on the topic and not a very good summary, ending in a sentence fragment. A better (and hopefully unbiased) short summary needs to be written. Sergivs-en (talk) 07:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

In April 1998 HM King Hussein visited Denmark.
On the 27th of April 1998 HM King Hussein of Jordan did receive the highest Dansh order "The Order of The Elephant".
The order is given almost exclusively to heads of state and to members of royal familes related to the Dansk Rpyal family.
Exceptins were Winston Churchil, General Mongommery and General Eisenhower who all received the order at the end of the second world war. 
Four non-royal Danes have received the order:
The language scientist Vilhelm Thomsen (1912), the founder of the Danish East Asiatic Company H. N. Andersen (1919), the nuclear scientist and Nobel Prize winner Niels Bohr (1947) and Mærsk Mc-Kinney Møller (2000).
Reference: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefantordenen
Peter Henrik Horsten
Copenhagen, Denmark.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.191.211.114 (talk) 23:11, 28 March 2013 (UTC) 

There is a notable gap in this article for the 1990-1991 Gulf War. This would be a valuable addition to the King's biography, and helpful for the lay scholar.76.92.141.104 (talk) 03:34, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

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The descent from Muhammad itself does not confer any special status. It has recently been noted that the Queen of the United Kingdom is a descendant but that is hardly news since every European is descended from Muhammad. What entitled Hussein's ancestors to the Meccan Sharifate and gave political legitimacy to his regime was his agnatic descent from Muhammad's daughter, i.e. the status of sayyid. That's what sets his descent apart from that of millions of other. Surtsicna (talk) 21:29, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: How and why on earth do you think Europeans are deacended from Muhammad?! Again, I am using the terminology present in most sources. Makeandtoss (talk) 22:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
It's simple mathematics: "everyone of European ancestry must descend from Muhammad." The man lived 14 centuries ago and his immediate descendants were quite prolific. Similarly we are all descended from Charlemagne.[1][2] There are sources that specify that Hussein was a male-line descendant of Muhammad's daughter (eg. [3]). It would not hurt to be more precise. Surtsicna (talk) 22:25, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
@Surtsicna: Ok, I now see what you meant. Lets leave this bit away from the lede, I restored the rest. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
@Surtsicna: It's the direct male lineage that matters. According to traditional genealogy, they are direct descendants of Muhammad's daughter and Ali. Also, his direct ancestors were the rulers of Hijaz, the region that includes Mecca and Medina. --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 05:24, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
And that is exactly what I wrote. Surtsicna (talk) 10:25, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

@GHcool: How about we refrain from using an Israeli think tank as a reliable source? What does majority even mean? 90%? 51%? Makeandtoss (talk) 22:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but the Begin–Sadat Center for Strategic Studies is a reliable source.  You give no legitimate reason why we shouldn't consider it reliable.  The fact that it is based in Israel is irrelevant for several reasons:
The geographic location of a source does not impact a source's reliability.  To argue otherwise is distasteful to say the least.
The think tank was founded by a Canadian and has an international staff.
The author of the article is a Jordanian.
We cite Israelis throughout the article.  --GHcool (talk) 00:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

It should be noted that Hussein underwrote the voyage of the Maiden during the 1989-1990 Whitbread Round the World Race, skippered by Tracy Edwards whom he'd met years before. Without his funding via Jordan Airlines the trip would not have happened.

"Jordan fought three wars with Israel under Hussein, including the 1967 Six-Day War, ..."
I'm not aware of any war other than the 1967 one that Jordan actually fought with (or rather against) Israel. Laugh Tough (talk) 05:50, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

War of Attrition and Yom Kippor. Makeandtoss (talk) 16:27, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

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The redirect Hussein de Jordanie has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 16 § Hussein de Jordanie until a consensus is reached.  estar8806 (talk) ★ 16:10, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Why does Husssein I redirect here, or given any acknowledgement at all? Who is Hussein II? Roger 8 Roger (talk) 22:40, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

I am much more concerned by the implication that this is the only Hussein Jordan has ever had. Surtsicna (talk) 23:29, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
Because he was known as Hussein I (see the infobox image), sorta like John Paul I before there was a John Paul II. GoodDay (talk) 00:54, 24 August 2025 (UTC)