# Talk:Fight for This Love

Is this actually important whether she performed it live or with a vocal backing track for the chori or pre-recorded it or whatever it was she did? I don't think it is. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 13:36, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

It's important when there is a citation stating one thing, and then uncited comments are made that contradict it.  The new reference is fine.  Thedarxide (talk) 14:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not talking about the reference, I'm saying do we even need to say it was performed live contrary to reports that it wasn't? The important thing is that she performed it, not that reports said she pre-recorded the performance. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:01, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh I think it IS relevant to state that she did not sing live, in this day and age a live performance has become a thing of the past, and for a show whose premise is to find a talent who can sing and has to sing live, for a judge on the show to come out and do a performance it is to be taken for granted that she's supposed to sing it live, to show her pupils what they should aspire to, and singing on a backing track is NOT what the show is about.
Also, whoever wrote that the Maxi Single is on cd should check their facts, the quotation from amazon is only relevant for the downloads, the cd is only a two-tracker.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.55.205.114 (talk) 00:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC) 

she sang the chorus live but mimed the verses and so fucking what ! everyone mimes now and again just ask beyonce or shakira or florence or britney! they go un notced so why suld people pick on cheryl for having nerves and she had plans to sing it all live just as it happens a day before the award ceremony her love rat husband was caught cheating AGAIN and i think we all need to show her consideration

I've removed this criticsm section from the article for a number of reasons. Firstly Yahoo! answers and The SUn forum are not reliable sources for anything. The Daily Mail source only said Cheryl APPEARED to be miming in a caption and there was no criticism of her miming. Furthermore this metro article: http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/music/813618-brit-awards-2010-jonathan-ross-in-top-5-worst-moments also states that JLS were miming, making the start of the section, 'while everyone else sung live' incorrect. Finally an ITV cameraman has posted that there was a transmission error, so she may not have been miming - http://twitter.com/cameramanjimitv/status/9242079024
Spyka (talk) 09:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Fight for This Love/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Checking to Wikipedia:Good article criteria
1 a) the prose is clear and the spelling and grammar are correct;

The prose is okay but could be improved, some redundant wording: first entirely solo => first solo
The spelling is America English and British English, colour, favorable. Be consistence one way or the other. There are some mistakes, uncredited => unaccredited, lipsync => lip-sync, protege => protégé, certifed=> certified
1 (b) it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

The lead does not comply with WP:LEAD, please ensure that the lead is a summary of the main body of the article. There are items in the lead not in the main text, i.e "Topmodel by Heidi Klum". References in the lead do not seem required in this lead and can therefore all be moved to the main body.
Disambiguous links. X Factor in the lead, Balmain in music video, DR. in ref 35, UOL in ref 82.
2. Factually accurate and verifiable:

There is bits unsourced, Last sentence in Background and composition. Most of the Music video section. Live performances, sentence in the middle starting "She wore black leggings".
Infobox: it appears Recorded,Genre,Length,Label,Writer(s),Producer are unsourced or conflicting with main body text.
Reference 1 thesun.co.uk is an unreliable source, as is twitter ref 8 & 15, if this has recently changed please point to the discussion. Reference 33 googlenews is dead. Ref 47 - msn is also dead.
Some bits missing. Germany Catalogue# for single. UK release date is incorrect, it was 18 October as one reference says, maybe split into two lines?
:Infobox says B-side is	"Didn't I" but does not indicate this is UK only.Striked, it wasn't UK only.
3. Broad in its coverage:

Generally good, there is not much coverage of the X-factor performance prior to the day of it's release, it maybe good to recheck that. The harem style trousers would be worth a comment as that was repeated in later live shows, also Simon Cowells comment after the performance. Consider a sentence explaining that promoting the single and her relationship with ashley cole was as the same time.
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias.

Seems good on that front. Remove only from 'In Belgium it only managed top-twenty'
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

Yes, stable. Low activity.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by images

A third image would be desirable, maybe from the live performance. The two existing images are not free.
Had a look on commons and Flickr but nothing suitable available.
Other comments.
Hungarian Airplay Chart date, Succeeded by, this information is incomplete
Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

That is it for today, will recheck after the dead/unreliable referenced have been updated. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:25, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Comments regarding new suggested changes.
Right at the moment i'm househunting so im quite busy as well as me having university exams so i won't be able to do these straight away. in fact not until Tuesday 8 June 2010 at the earliest though i will still be peaking on wikipedia every now and then to see if there's anything urgent. Feel free to keep me updated and A.S.A.P i will resolve (or attempt to) resolve the issues.
As for the catalogue numbers i sourced two from physical CDs that i have and the others from Iternational copies that friends have got. I recognise that in fact there could have been errors with that because the CD cases contain many different numbers. I cross referenced them with DISCOGs but someone on a different page said it wasn't that accurate. I will check a range of sources (Hung Median, HMV etc.) and find as many of the linkable catalogue numbers possible. Some of the international ones might be unsourceable in which case if there is a large number of questionable catalogue numbers i'll remove all from the release history and simply placed the sourced ones in the tracklisting where necessary.
I didn't realise how many errors existed. That's the problem when you nominate someone else's work for GA. This article didn't really have a main contributor and so the styling and referencing was all over the place. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
No problem, life comes first. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm on vacation now, if someone wishes to take this GA review on please do as I won't be available for several weeks. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 11:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
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I will gladly take over the article, please give me 30ish minutes to read the previous issues and i will start from there. (CK)Lakeshade✽talk2me 01:58, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
All issues stated about seem to be resolved. Now its my turn :) (CK)Lakeshade✽talk2me 02:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking this on User:L-l-CLK-l-l and well done to Lil-unique1 for getting this upto GA standard. A few minor things already mentioned:

Track listing for Ireland/UK is 3:46 for reference by Amazon but there are no track times on that Amazon reference.
The info box track length says 3:44 but it's 3:46.
Hungarian Airplay date is incomplete, it's not still number 1.
Catalogue numbers in release history are not available on references or in some cases a different ASIN is given. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 14:55, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I seem to remember there was a little bit of coverage that one of her costumes was compared to M. Bison (specifically, the one she has on during the first pre-chorus)? Is this true, or am I imagining it? Sceptre (talk) 23:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

no its true. I've added two credible sources to the promotion section so that it can be mentioned. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I am honestly surprised that this fact wasn't displayed. The song CLEARLY has the same tune. Usually Wikipedia's really good with these things. I wonder if it says that on the original CD's. The sample was also used in Tupac's song "Changes" AWDRacer (talk) 09:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

It most certainly is not true. I have the album booklet and nowhere does it mention sampling "The Way It Is". -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1  | talk2me 18:23, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. What do you think? It's too similar to be a coincidence. AWDRacer (talk) 20:08, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

My Sweet Lord it definitely isn't. Wythy (talk) 14:15, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Fight for This Love's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "platinum":
From Street Fighter: "CAPCOM — Platinum Titles".
From 3 Words: "Certified Awards Search". British Phonographic Industry. Retrieved 23 December 2009.
From Sound of the Underground (song): "BPI > Certified Awards Search". British Phonographic Industry. Retrieved 2010-01-16.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 16:55, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I've found a few additional sources which mention an influence from Janet Jackson in Cheryl's performance on The X-Factor, from Hello Magazine and The Daily Mail. There's also another article from Hello Magazine noting a "Janet Jackson-inspired routine" and an excerpt from the online Grazia website calling her outfit "second rate Janet Jackson." Although they don't mention "Rhythm Nation" itself, they do observe Janet to be an inspiration. Would these be suitable for the article? Regards, User5482 (talk) 08:27, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

User5482 you can use the GraziaDaily reference to add to the music video section and say that Cole's outfit was compared to a "second-rate Janet Jackson" outfit. That woud be fine. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 21:07, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Lil-unique1, in the promotion section can I also add "Media had favorably considered the performance inspired by and reminiscent of Janet Jackson" .. it uses Hello Magazine and Daily Mail as sources, the latter site used for another source within the article. Thanks for your help. User5482 (talk) 06:57, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
User5482 up you can use the daily mail source to add that the x factor peformance to be inspired by Janet Jackson. Saying "favourable considered doesn't make sense" → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 23:12, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

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There is an ongoing dispute about this song. Among other places, see: http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2011/03/23/cheryl_cole_song_invovled_in_copyright  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.214.60 (talk) 10:22, 3 June 2016 (UTC) 

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