# Talk:King Creole

Of course, this being Wikipedia, someone who has control of an article has a major advantage over good faith contributors. However, "gangster that" is simply not proper grammar. So why did you change it back? That is only one small example of the poor text in this article about Elvis Presley's by-far best movie. In addition, a quick perusal of the plot yielded a number of easily correctible and fact-checkable, non-subjective errors, such Danny's actual reply to Miss (not Mrs.) Pearson, the quintessential old maid. Let's please write the best article we can, with proper grammar and a correct synopsis. All of my recent edits were needed and should be restored.
Dstlascaux (talk) 15:28, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

This sentence had been in the article: "Because the more serious and gritty film strayed from the pretty scenery/pretty girls plotless formula that the legions of Presley fans wanted, it was less than a smash at the box office." - I removed it due to historical inaccuracy. While this observation may hold merit regarding Presley's garrulous series of 'Elvis movies' in the 1960s, in the 1950s those hadn't happened yet, and his four films from 1956 to 1958 were serious attempts, and taken as such by audiences at the time. The formula pictures came later.PJtP 00:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 19:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

The article states that Presley never got the chance to be taken seriously as an actor again because of his post-army films. But what about the film Charro, which was a tough western where not only did he have a beard but also did no singing as part of the action? (79.190.69.142 (talk) 21:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC))

The article states that he never got to be taken as seriously as an actor again, not that he was never taken seriously again. Of course he was with films such as Flaming Star, Wild in the Country, Charro!, and Change of Habit. However, none of these films are anywhere near as serious as King Creole and I think many would agree that the quality of his acting in King Creole was never matched on screen again. ElvisFan1981 (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:King Creole/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk · contribs) 22:12, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.
Disambiguations: none found
Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:13, 3 November 2011 (UTC)


### Checking against GA criteria
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 
Presley's third film, and the final to be filmed in black and white. is ungrammatical.
 They take a taxi towards the high school where Danny attends, also ungrammatical.
Moved after learning that Danny holds both morning and night jobs to support his family, Mr. Evans forgives him but is unable to intercede with Miss Pearson and Danny drops out of school. Try using commas or rewriting.
Confusing changes of tense throughout the plot section.
where Nellie attends the show in sign of reconciliation ungrammatical.
Directed to her in regret for his past actions
Please get this copy-edited, it is not "reasonably well written.
Filming took place between January 20 and March 12, 1958, mostly at Paramount Studios in Los Angeles, California[9] and on location at the French Quarter, while the scene of the bayou was filmed in Lake Pontchartrain So New Orleans / Loisiana needs mentioning here as last time I looked they were not in LA.
I have added the locations.--GDuwenTell me! 15:32, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
During filming, Presley was constantly moved to avoid the crowds of fans who came to see him on location, which delayed the film-making. Emotionally moved? Or moved about?
Wallis had rented a house for Presley's privacy, and a second one after one of his assistants noticed that the back of the houses in the block led to the back of the houses on the adjacent street. Ungrammatical.
OK, enough, this needs a thorough copy-edit throughout by someone who can write reasonably good plain English.
I'll be working on that.--GDuwenTell me! 02:39, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
User:Clarityfiend has done copy-editing and cleanup in the article, so the prose needs a new check.--GDuwenTell me! 15:32, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
http://movies.elvispresley.com.au/ is a fan site, not RS
Replaced.--GDuwenTell me! 17:29, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
The allrovi cites should have author details.
Authors added.--GDuwenTell me! 17:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
Reasonable coverage
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 
Were there any negative reviews?
I added all the reviews I could find, (Monthly Film Bulletin, Down Beat and Commonweal seem to be negative.--GDuwenTell me! 17:26, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 
Article appears stable
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
Images are suitably licensed or have non-free use rationales, captioned.
Overall:
Pass/Fail: 
On hold for seven days for the issues above to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:43, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
I think the issues have been addressed by now.--GDuwenTell me! 17:28, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
OK, this just passes muster, although the prose could be further improved.  Next time, before nominating, get articles copy-edited and peer reviewed before coming to GAN.  GAN is where we check that the artcile meets the criteria, not where suggestions are made on how to write it. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:55, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

There is no verifiable evidence that either, or both, of these persons are in the film. USColonialHistorian (talk) 15:04, 12 July 2020 (UTC)