# Talk:Miles of Plancy

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Nominator: Surtsicna (talk · contribs) 13:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Borsoka (talk · contribs) 06:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct: 

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation: 

Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline: 

B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose): 

C. It contains no original research: 

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism: 

Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic: 

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style): 

Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each: 

Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute: 

Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content: 

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions: 

Overall:
Pass or Fail: 

Source review

Academic sources of high standard, including a monography about Miles is cited.
I would delete the "access-date" from each source, since printed material cannot change.
It is automatically added by citer (a game-changing tool). I think it is there for the link. Surtsicna (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
The title for Hamilton (1992) is incomplete.
Well spotted. Surtsicna (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
ISBN for Runciman (his work was republished in the 1980s)? Borsoka (talk) 06:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Added. Surtsicna (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
References 3, 11, 14, 15, 37, 38 are verified.
Fix reference 4.
Fixed. Surtsicna (talk) 13:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
I checked other sources such as Jonathan Phillips' Defenders of the Holy Land, Volume II of A History of the Crusades edited by Marshall W. Baldwin, and The Routledge Companion to the Crusades by Peter Lock. They confirm some statements in the article, and do not contain additional information. Borsoka (talk) 02:57, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Image review

File:Peluse.jpg: the source is a dead link; US PD tag is missing.
Fixed. Surtsicna (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
File:Amaurydeath-BaldwinIVcrowned.jpg: US PD tag is missing; I would name the manuscript mentioned in "Description" at Commons as a source of the image.
Done. Surtsicna (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
File:Français 2629, fol. 270, Assassinat de Milon de Plancy.jpeg: the link does not verify the picture; US PD tag is missing. Borsoka (talk) 06:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Tag added, link changed. Surtsicna (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Comments

Would you add an infobox?
I am on the fence. No infobox looks right. Surtsicna (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I would introduce Hamilton as the author of Miles's biography or a monography about Miles to avoid the repetition of the term historian.
That publication, rather disappointingly, is strictly about Miles's connection with Beirut. I found another way to avoid the repetition. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Introduce Amalric as Baldwin's grandson, because otherwise the sentence with "thus" does not make sense.
Done. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I would specify that he came to the Jerusalemite kingdom.
Of course. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Introduce shortly Philip of Milly. Why not Knights Templar?
Named as nobleman. "Order of the Knights Templar" is fine too. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Introduce the High Court.
Done. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Introduce Darum and Gaza to make it clear why Amalric mobilized his army.
Introduced. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I would say that Stephanie was recently widowed.
Perhaps not recently: Fulton says that Humphrey could have died at any point between 1168 and 1174. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
... the castellan, Rohard of Jaffa... Was he the castellan of Jaffa, or of another fortress who was named after Jaffa?
Added "of Jerusalem". Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Miles prepared by renewing peace with Damascus.  I would mention that Damascus was the other powerful Muslim neighbor of the kingdom, to make clear the relevance of the sentence.
Damascus is mentioned in the preceding section, also in relation to war against Egypt. It was no longer powerful by the time Miles gained power. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Clarify that the Sicilian fleet besieged Alexandria in Egypt.
That seems unnecessary; Egypt is mentioned at the opening of the paragraph, and Egypt's Alexandria is the Alexandria. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
The Hospitallers had still not financially recovered from Amalric's previous attempt... Some context when Amalric's campaign is mentioned?
Yes, sir. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I would integrate the footnote into the main text.
I gave it a try. See if you like how it looks. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I would mention that William of Tyre was a close ally of Raymond III when completing his chronicle.
Of course. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
...Miles's failure to assist in the attempt to overthrow Saladin... Whose attempt? Borsoka (talk) 07:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Clarified. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
He was warned... By whom?
William does not say, and Hamilton does not speculate. Surtsicna (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)