# Talk:Hungry Like the Wolf

Black Light Burns - Hungry Like the Wolf from Cover Your Heart album.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.68.71.5 (talk) 20:44, 27 January 2013 (UTC) 

Where's the rest of the info? Eyeball kid 03:59, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, I just wrote an article. RomeoVoid 04:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Just listening to the song on the radio before and towards the end of the song you hear a woman moaning (quite erotic I think!)...does anyone know what this was for or is part of the video clip? --Mikecraig 23:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Saw the video for it on YouTube about an hour ago. Yes, that sound is in there, and it does appear to be part of the visual story of the video as well. Runa27 21:51, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
isnt this also an internet meme of sorts? - thero
Um, obvious vandalism under DuranDuran_HungryLikeTheWolf_Screenshot.jpg.  Haha.
Song supposed to be about a guy performing oral on a girl, apparently. Listen to the lyrics, it kinda fits.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.171.233.77 (talk) 22:20, 28 February 2009 (UTC) 

oo-er! listened to in that light, it is a naughty song isn't. Amazing that no one in 20 years had documented that before.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.49.126 (talk) 20:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

"“Wolf” was written and recorded on a Saturday afternoon in the spring of 1982 at the basement studios of EMI’s London headquarters. “That track came from fiddling with the new technology that was starting to come in,”..." - Blender
""Hungry Like the Wolf" was written and recorded on a Saturday afternoon in the spring of 1982 at the basement studios of EMI's London headquarters. "That track came from fiddling with the new technology that was starting to come in," guitarist Andy Taylor..." - this Wikipedia article. In fact, the whole "Writing and recording" section is highly similar to the Blender article. A rewrite, or research for more sources is necessary; otherwise. indopug (talk) 06:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Discogs is an online catalog of just about every record printed, as well as the catalog number and date the song was released. In this case I linked the page of the actual record and record label, so the reader can see for themselves the info given. The song "Hungry Like The Wolf" indeed has additional moaning and was also longer. I have the vinyl record in my collection and was looking it up on a "reliable" record/catalog site, like Discogs. As an AVID record collector, that site is invaluable to any such hobbyist. I've been using it for years and the catalog numbers and record label information is accurate. There is no other site similar to it for a true record collector and audiophile. Additionally, there is an actual picture of the actual record sleeve and record with the information on it, look for yourself. 
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Please read on a Top 40 Music forum, which I copied/pasted the first post:
Posted: 06 June 2007 at 4:06pm | IP Logged 	Quote jimct
Pat, the full story of this song's long road to becoming a national Top 40 hit is almost exactly the same as its follow-up hit, "Rio." First released around the last week of July 1982, as Harvest 5134, is the listed (3:23), non-hit version of "Hungry Like The Wolf". The other side of this Harvest 5134 45 is, "Careless Memories (Live Version)". We received no promo 45 for this issue, just commercial 45s into the station, and it quickly disappeared without a trace. Now, move ahead 4 1/2 to 5 months, to December of 1982. By the way, between July and December of '82, the initial release of the "Rio" 45 has also been put out, as Harvest 5175, and also totally flopped. But the group was a big fave on MTV, and the label was selling records on them. So the record company tried again with "Hungry...", this time with (4:11) and (5:14) remixes appearing as both sides of this newly-issued 45, released as Harvest 5195. FYI, we received only stock copies as well for this 45 issue, which was rather unusual for the times. This is the 45 issue that hit #3 on Billboard, in March of 1983. Pat, my main point here is that the (4:11) "hit" version was the only one we ever played at our station. I would suspect the (5:14) flip probably also got some good radio airplay at the time. But I do not believe that the initial, mid-1982, (3:23) version deserves any database credit as a "hit" version. In my opinion, it was nothing but an early, non-hit release of a later-remixed Top 40 hit, and any and all (3:23) database CD appearances should be notated as such, for accuracy's sake. 
DJghr1 (talk)

I know that Discogs is a database, but everyone can add anything there, they may have correct information but there is no editorial verification of the content neither they have any sort of fact-checking and accuracy. There even was a discussion about the reliability of the website. The part about the additional moaning is original research, none of the sources said anything about it. Keep in mind that Wikipedia goes for verifiability, not truth. Eaither way I don't see how is this information important for the article, I think the content is borderline trivial, which should be avoided. Regards. Frcm1988 (talk) 05:37, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
As a DJ this is an important fact stating the "hit" version of Hungry Like The Wolf. Many points on any given article have NO links and can be regarded as borderline trivial. Read this complete article alone. You will find many facts and points given...without links. I can state many "trivial" points in any article, are they to be removed as well? I added links. Anyone who was a part of the 80s and in the "biz" knows this is the "hit" version. It was only released on the 7" version, not on any Duran Duran LP/EP, nor any compilation. If I need to add a Harvest/EMI record page as a reference, I will gladly do so. What more solid do you need than the actual record label information from the record label/record site? In fact, I will find a Joel Whitburn/Billboard page with the record label and number to add, as well...is that reliable enough? If not, what is?  Are Billboard references reliable enough? What about Joel Whitburn? I am by no means a Duran Duran fan, I am a music fan. I state facts as it is, and stating that this was the "hit" version is important, as it was the version played on CHR radio at the time, not the short version. I removed the moaning reference.DJghr1 (talk)

Please read the guidelines, this is an encyclopedia not a Duran Duran fan page, nor a database of every format released; just because there are millions of articles that have no references dosen't make it right; and please point out what are those statements without a source or that are trivial, the article is a Good Article since 2009, if there were any problems with the content, it will be mentioned on the review. And again your sources are not reliable, plus the moaning part is original research, the addition of this content could be viewed as vandalism. Plus most of the information about that is already on the formats and track listing section, also why is it important to mention what version was released in the US over the ones that were released in other countries, specially when the band is not even American? Frcm1988 (talk) 02:13, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Again what is the point of having that , when there is already a track listing section that includes the US release, plus there is a mention about the release of the Kershenbaum remix of the song on the Chart Performance section, which is obvious that its not the shorter version that was released in the UK. Also why give more importance to the version that was a hit in the US, we don't have a section that said this was the version that was popular in the UK, or the Netherlands or Canada, or this version was used in the music video. Frcm1988 (talk) 02:33, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
For future reference, which IS a "reliable" record label source site? I at one point had not one but THREE of the following sites. According to Frcm1988, Discogs is NOT, 45Cat (a record label/7" vinyl release archive including  the actual picture of the record label in question) is NOT, and Discoogle is NOT. Frcm1988 you may have a "Barnstar" award and have helped multiple articles, but that does not make you a "know it all and final answer" to 80s song articles. Those WERE reliable sources, and you know that. "Unreliable sources" seems to be the default answer you give when someone adds to your "perfected" article and don't like the answer.DJghr1 (talk) 7 Aug 2011
I already pointed out a lot of guidelines before, including a discussion on the reliable sources noticeboard where Discogs was discussed, and was determined that it dosen't qualify as a reliable source for the reasons I already stated, but judging by you answers you didn't even read them, you didn't even responded to the questions I asked before and you didn't bother to comment anymore until I removed that section. They are not reliable, what makes them reliable, anyone can upload anything they want, there is no verification of anything there, and again why is important to know what version was popular in the US and not the one that was in the UK, Canada, Ireland or Australia? Frcm1988 (talk) 22:20, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
No, Sir, I was not referring not just to Discogs. I was also referring to 45cat.com and Discoogle.com. I'm talking about a "record label" site that you can physically, with your own eyes, look at a record label and determine whether ANY information is correct or not correct regarding a future record label dispute.
What IS a reliable record label source? For future reference (not necessarily "Hungry Like The Wolf"), but for FUTURE reference on any and all OTHER records?
DJghr1 (talk) 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I already give a wikilink to the guidelines of how to identify reliable sources in the first comment I made. Frcm1988 (talk) 21:50, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

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The article, until recently, related the claims Ann Rule made about Diane Downs singing this song as factual. It was then edited by an IP to definitively label the claims false. Does anybody know which version of the article is more accurate? 63.231.141.132 (talk) 21:26, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

I've reverted that change. I found numerous accounts of Ann Rule talking about the killer singing the song and couldn't find a single source contradicting it. If someone wants to state that this claim is false, they need to provide a source. Mloren (talk) 03:48, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
https://duranduran.fandom.com/wiki/Small_Sacrifices
https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/duran-duran-hungry-like-the-wolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faH1S5Acuac 77.99.210.174 (talk) 20:00, 8 March 2022 (UTC)