# Talk:No. 1 Basic Flying Training School RAAF

Ian, you wrote: "Trainee pilots could now expect to fly approximately 85 hours on Winjeels at No. 1 BFTS, followed by 125 hours on Vampires at No. 1 AFTS." I can't give you a reference right now, but by about 1960, with the cessation of weapons training on the Vampire (at Pearce, it continued of course at OCU), the syllabus was rationalised to 112 hours on each type. I'll see what I can find.Lexysexy (talk) 00:24, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Tks, mate.  Don't bust a gut for a ref on that -- I think Stephens says something similar a bit after the 85/125 ratio info, I just missed it in my draft.  Should be able to add something tonight... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:47, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Hullo again. Forgot I hadn't done anything about this till I decided to expand the article a bit just now. Re-checked Stephens and he appears to be contradicting himself. On p.151 he seems to be saying that after 1BFTS went to Point Cook and 1AFTS to Pearce in May 1958, it was 85 hours on Winjeel and 125 hours on Vampires. Then on p.159 he says that "from 1958" it was 120 hours on Winjeels and 110 on Vampires. So if you're able to find another reliable ref that supports about 112 on each from the 1960s, or simply confirms p. 159 of Stephens, I'd be more than happy to use it...! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:18, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey Lexy, I found an article in RAAF News that stated 124 hours of Winjeel training as of mid-1964, so added that -- not quite the 112 hours but closer than 85... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 04:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Ian, certainly closer. Interesting, I got exactly 112 hours on each type during training and on both types was given extra - but unnecessary - hours (so I was told) just to keep the records straight.Lexysexy (talk) 08:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)