# Talk:KMFDM

What I mean is, should MDFMK be incorporated into KMFDM's history? Because as of right now, it's all mixed up.
If we DID incorporate it:

All member years would incorporate the MDFMK era. So for Sascha, it'd say 1984–present. This is how it looks now.
The infobox would have unbroken years. So, it'd say 1984–present. This is NOT how it looks now.
The self-titled MDFMK album would be listed under Discography. This is NOT how it looks now.
The timeline (on the separate members page) would have a black line for the MDFMK album, along with a colored bar for the MDFMK era. This is how it looks now.
The brief MDFMK tours would be listed under the List of tours section. This is NOT how it looks now.
If we did NOT incorporate it:

All member years would ignore the MDFMK era. So for Sascha, it'd say 1984–1999, 2002–present. This is NOT how it looks now.
The infobox would have divided years. So, it'd say 1984–1999, 2002–present. This is how it looks now.
The self-titled MDFMK album would not be listed under Discography whatsoever. This is how it looks now.
The timeline (on the separate members page) would have no line for the MDFMK album nor any bars for the MDFMK era. This is NOT how it looks now.
The brief MDFMK tours would not be listed under the List of tours section. This is how it looks now.
So, who is in favor of which? I feel like it needs to be one way or the other, no in between. Xanarki (talk) 00:36, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

Personally, I think MDFMK should not be incorporated into KMFDM. It should be treated as a separate project, like Excessive Force, KGC, etc. And I feel like, for a long time, that's how it was viewed here. But I'm willing to see other POVs otherwise. Xanarki (talk) 00:39, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

i obviously dont want to talk about the god awful columbiners, but many people think that kmfdm supports columbiners/shooters. should there be a section discussing the widely believed connection between columbiners and kmfdm fans/members?? Oingoboingofan (talk) 21:11, 11 November 2025 (UTC)