# Talk:History of rugby union matches between France and New Zealand

I've been looking at this article and under the references I see three references that puzzle me. "Potter", "Polenski" and "Dine". The way they're listed it leads me to think these are books, if they are books you really should use the template:cite book method of referencing, it'll be more useful to non rugby fans like myself. Just a friendly suggestion. MPJ-DK 22:20, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

They are listed in the bibliography section, which is under references. {{cite book}} was used, but not for the inline citations. I'll move the bibliography above references to avoid people not seeing it. - Shudde talk 22:30, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Yup I didn't see that either, good move MPJ-DK 06:02, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Does the title really need to include "at rugby union"?  What other sport do the All Blacks play?  Some other thoughts:

The intro is a little dry - just a list of victories.  Can it be made more interesting?  For instance, the fact that France toured New Zealand before the home nations team (or was that just in 1961?) is a better thing to put in the intro than lists of scores - it helps answer the question of why the article exists.
The history section needs to be broken into subsections to improve readability
The entire See Also section can be removed as everything listed there is already mentioned and wikilinked in the article beforehand
Many of the categories are overreaching - this article is not an article about an Oceania rugby union team (the main article on the All Blacks would be) but it does belong in the All Blacks and Rugby union in France categories.
--Kharker 23:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The title is just to stay consistent with other articles, but I've named it All Blacks because the main article is All Blacks and not New Zealand national rugby union team - unlike other national team articles. It's basically an exception to the rule. The history section prob can be split up. The other things I'll deal with, but are prob minor. Are you doing a GAC review? - Shudde talk 00:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd also like to add that the introduction is very dry. Whilst many of the dates are important milestones, I found it to be quite boring and felt it didn't really 'sum up' the French-NZ rugby relationship. kabl00ey 09:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I have requested a copy-edit at a couple of places. Hopefully this can help with the prose. :-) - Shudde talk 21:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Broadness: Pass
Images: Pass
Factually accurate: Pass
Stability: Pass
Well-written: Pass
Neutral: Pass
Good job. I'm sorry it took over 30 days to review this. At first glance and full reading, it looks good, so I'll pass this article.Mitch32contribs

Thanks. - Shudde talk 00:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I have nominated this article for Featured article status. You can add any comments here. Thanks. - Shudde talk 10:18, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

A couple of points rising out of the copy-edit-in-progress. The full citation system makes the text very difficult to edit. Would you consider switching to the short cite/full ref system used at, for example, Hamlet? Another thing is that headlines in CAPS in the citation need converting to Title Case. --ROGER DAVIES talk 09:35, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I have no problem with the citation system being changed. Whatever is easiest for editors is fine by me. I can go through and change all those headlines. - Shudde talk 04:06, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Cool :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 06:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
I've done the headlines and some of the citations (more later).--ROGER DAVIES talk 07:36, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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It has been a while since this article has been reviewed, so I took a look and noticed the following:

There is no post-2011 prose about their matches, even though the article lists various matches they have played.
The article has uncited statements, including entire paragraphs.
The lead is quite long for an article of this length. I suggest that the information be summarised more effectively.
Should this article go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 05:22, 8 November 2025 (UTC)