# Talk:Double Dare (franchise)

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If there is a tie at the end of round two there are four possible solutions:

(a) the team who completed the physical challenge in the fastest time at the beginning of round two advances to the bonus round,
(b) a tiebreaker physical challenge is played between both teams, with the winner advancing to the bonus round,
(c) a sudden death question is asked to both teams, with the first team to buzz-in with the correct answer advancing to the bonus round, or
(d) both teams play in the bonus round, with the team going through the most obstacles being declared the winner.
Which of these is the correct tiebreaker? J4lambert (talk) 00:25, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

None of them. Modern technology allows the show to be edited to fit in a whole game with a winner. — Chad1m  Email Talk  Cont. 03:54, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Please provide a reliable source that clarifies the tiebreaker rule... J4lambert (talk) 12:17, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

If we're going to keep the main page dedicated to all of the different series instead of splitting it out per the discussion above, then we at least need to have better organization and either have a "List of Double Dare episodes" page or "Double Dare (season 1)" and so on pages.

Support either option as proposer. Amaury (talk | contribs) 21:23, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Support – though I'm not sure what we'd title the "season" article, as this is only "season 1" of the 2018 edition... Regardless, we need some kind of page dedicated to the 2018 edition and its episodes – I should not have to go to User:Amaury/sandbox/Double Dare (2018 game show) in order to find out basic info such as episode titles and airdates. In fact, a general LoE article for the original version (if the info is available for one) is probably warranted as well... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:54, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Support - I've seen some pages that don't have enough episodes for a list of episodes page link the season page to the main page itself. Like with The Gifted or Legion. That's one idea you could explore if you meet resistance with a list of page. Esuka323 (talk) 22:23, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Support - I currently run Double Dare Wikia, since the previous owner has been inactive for a few years now. There's been a page listing all the episodes. I'm probably going to come up with a more organized way of listing them all, but you could take ideas from it, please feel free to. My 'suggestion' would be to either have 3 different pages for a LoE of the different versions (would be awkward with current one only being one season though), or have a whole list of episodes altogether, separated into different sections, like on Double Dare Wikia currently. Here is a link to it if any of you are interested. (Also want to point out I am not trying to advertise it, just using it to give an example) Magitroopa (talk) 03:23, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Oppose - Once again, I'd like to remind everyone to think of this in game show terms, not kids' TV show terms. Game shows, especially those in a daily strip format like Double Dare, typically don't get episode guides on Wikipedia, primarily because there is no show-to-show continuity, or episodic nature to them. The show has the same basic structure every single time. Wheel of Fortune doesn't need an episode guide for "Joe vs. Dana vs. Tricia" and, as much as I love Double Dare, it doesn't need one for "Blue Bombers vs. Red Rockets" either. — Chad1m  Email Talk  Cont. 14:33, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
I don't think it would be unreasonable for someone to create a season page and link to the mainpage. As long as there's enough content to justify the article existing on the mainspace I don't think it really matters if it airs weekly, daily, or even hourly. Esuka323 (talk) 14:52, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
I don't consider that a valid rationale for an "oppose", because it's effectively a WP:OSE argument – IOW, just because some "game shows" don't merit separate LoE articles does not mean that all game show articles shouldn't have one. This particular game show includes unique episode titles. In addition, I'm pretty sure based on Amaury's draft that there will be sufficient sourcing to demonstrate notability for the 2018 version. The use of "celebrity" contestants also makes this one different than something like Wheel of Fortune, and enhances its notability. Therefore, something like a separate "season" or LoE article looks to be justified in this case. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:58, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Lean oppose - I've been an editor here for 5.5 years. As my Wikipedia career has progressed, I think I've become more of an inclusionist in general, as long as the material in question is not blatant trivia and can be reliably sourced. That said, Chad is right; for consistency's sake, I'm not sure that an episodes list is appropriate here considering it's a game show with the same basic format and different contestants each episode. Even reality shows like Pawn Stars and Storage Wars, which have the same general episode format every time, offer some continuity as the characters and stars of the show remain the same and develop over time. I wouldn't necessarily lose sleep over a list of episodes or season article (as long as it doesn't negatively impact this one), but given the numerous AFDs we've gone through for other game shows' lists of episodes, and for consistency, I'm just not sure it's the right solution in this case. (Of course, if the Game Show WikiProject (of which I am one of, if not the most, active members) wants to get together and come up with a new standard justifying lists of episodes in some circumstances, I'm more than happy to do so.) --Bcschneider53 (talk) 16:44, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
How does the GSWP handle panel game shows? This particular show format seems similar to those in that one of the features of panel game shows seems to be the incidence of "celebrity guest stars". The new Double Dare appears to follow in that vein, and I think the "celebrity contestant" angle pushes this one over the line into justifying some kind of LoE or "season" type article... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:05, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
@IJBall: I confess, I'm not too familiar with panel game shows. Perhaps this AFD could provide some insight; of course, it was over four years ago, but still. List of Hollywood Game Night episodes was deleted; List of QI episodes is a featured list. Admittedly, it does seem there is a lack of consistency there. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 01:02, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
OK, that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Hollywood Game Night episodes discussion does seem to be directly relevant here, as it contains a list of both (game show) LoE articles deleted, and other (game show, esp. panel show) LoE that do (still) exist... The most relevant discussion to this one, though, may be Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Figure It Out episodes – that was not a well attended discussion, and there was definitely a split on the notability on that one.  (I'm actually going to make a WP:REFUND request-to-draft on that one, because I want to see what kind of shape it was in when it was deleted...) I think if we approach the 2018 version's article as being more of a "season" article than a "LoE" article, then it may meet the notability-type guidelines set forth by WP:TV. So I think some of us are going to work on Amaury's userspace draft with that approach. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:11, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Apologizing in advance, but confused a bit with all that was just said. I have actually already been helping on Amaury's draft for Double Dare 2018 whenever new episode names are found or when episodes have name changes, but are we just having a list of 2018 episodes or will we get around (eventually) to listing all the Double Dare episodes from all the different years/series? Magitroopa (talk) 03:52, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
If we can find episode guides for 2000 and the original and its expansions (eg, Super Sloppy). Problem is finding such guides. Zap2it has some info on Super Sloppy Double Dare, but not a lot. Amaury (talk | contribs) 04:11, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
I did say earlier on in this that I run Double Dare Wikia (again, not advertising) and someone (not me) put on an episode guideof all the different episodes. Not entirely sure how accurate it is, but I'm sure if we do find another source and compare them, if they are similar, then I am sure it is accurate. Most of the episodes are also able to be found online when you look it up, but not sure what information you'll get on it. From comparing the Wikia episode guide to other sites like IMDb, it seems like the order of the episodes are correct, but cannot find any sources on the airdates on any site other than the Wikia. Magitroopa (talk) 06:36, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Since not all episode titles, air dates, and information are available for the show between 1986 and 1989, and especially not with trustworthy sources, there would be no way to construct a full series episode guide that would be veriable by encyclopedic standards. I have done plenty of research in databases and archives for this article, and without accessing Nickelodeon's library, there is no concrete, complete way to achieve this. I do not see the point in having a list of one or two seasons when the rest of the series cannot be represented. — Chad1m  Email Talk  Cont. 18:16, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Doesn't mean a separate LOE for the revival is unnecessary, and honestly, it's all the more reason why the revival should have been split out. Amaury (talk | contribs) 19:22, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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This schedule appeared in the San Francisco Examiner on February 6, but it is for tomorrow night. If you scroll down, you'll see that it was listed for 6:00-7:00 p.m.--2600:6C50:27F:889A:F063:D524:ED2B:4A9 (talk) 23:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

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I think there should be updates on how many episodes both weekday seasons on Nickelodeon had. By now, it's pretty clear Season 1 had 70. 67 are known, and Season 2 had 66; one of them was a Valentine's Special airing on February 14, 1987. https://www.newspapers.com/search/?query=Double%20Dare%20Valentine&ymd=1987-02-14 Loyalist2024 (talk) 07:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

There was an Australian version that was successful and even had a few crossover ones with the American one. Surely there were other international versions too 120.19.152.181 (talk) 21:03, 4 December 2024 (UTC)