# Talk:City of Death

Hold the phone a minute. I've watched the DVD, the notes and the commentaries, and all of the documentaries on the second disc, and neither heard nor saw ANY Hitchhiker's references in THIS Doctor Who story (though The Pirate Planet had several). Anyone have proof? --JohnDBuell 04:40, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

What happened to Part 3's cliffhanger (Kerensky's death)? --Jawr256 09:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I've heard it mentioned that the real-life relationship between Tom Baker and Lalla Ward (which led to their brief marriage after both left the series) originated during production of this serial. Can anyone provide a source for this, as it would be interesting to note in the article. 23skidoo 20:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

They seemed to put some emphasis on the fact that "THIS iS A FAKE" was written in felt-tip, especially at the end, it seemed to me. Is there something special about felt-tipped pens, that they are modern of they show up on x-rays or something? --Howdybob 10:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Answer- It's not so much that the pen used is felt tipped, as it would be the ink used in the pen.  The chemical composition of modern inks is very different from those used in the 16th Century.

Is the reference to the Star Trek episode really relevant? Lots of stories resemble lots of other stories. Lots42 (talk) 13:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the tagline. These plot synopses are way too long. Who's going to read all of that? Surely it would be better just as a single paragraph? According to Wikipedia:Plot summaries, the plot summary should be between 200 and 500 words - this one is over 2000! --Tuzapicabit (talk) 11:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

{{Sofixit}}.  The main reason these long plot summaries remain is that nobody ever gets around to writing more succinct ones.  It's like the old aphorism "I am sorry that this letter is so long — I have not had time to make it shorter." (Who said that?)
That said, Wikipedia:Plot summaries is an essay, not a guideline, and as such the 300–500 word estimate is only a recommendation.  If you, or someone else, wanted to condense this plot summary (which I agree is far too long), but found that you needed, say, 800 words to do so, that would not be a big problem in my view. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:22, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Funnily enough, I was tempted to do so, but knowing how people jump on these Doctor Who articles, I figured that I'd get pounced on and my work would be reverted. Still, we'll see. (Who said that? Pascal, Twain, Cicero and a host of others apparently - but I did look for it!)--Tuzapicabit (talk) 18:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
OK, done. It still seems quite detailed at 800 words, but still, that's less than half what it was.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 19:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Cleese wanted them to be credited as "Helen Swanetsky" and "Kim Bread" but the BBC declined, failing to see the joke.
Perhaps someone who does see the joke could put me out of my misery? —Tamfang (talk) 03:53, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Have explained. It's doesn't seem to be much of a joke. Glimmer721 talk 17:32, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Is anyone planning on nominating this for DYK in time for the 50th anniversary? Ruby 2010/2013 15:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's possible since it is not in any way a new article or a recently expanded one...there will be an FA of the Day though on November 23rd. Glimmer721 talk 02:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
I've just looked into it... WP:WIADYK allows "DYK is only for articles that, within the past five days, have been ... promoted to good article status" which was added very recently, although the RfC about it was some weeks ago. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:49, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, new GAs have become eligible. I'm fine nominating it later today if no one is opposed. (just wanted to check with the article's principal authors first). Thanks! Ruby 2010/2013 16:47, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Right, now we need a hook etc. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:56, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
How about: ... that Douglas Adams convinced John Cleese to appear in the Doctor Who serial City of Death after learning the comedian would be working in BBC Television Centre on the same day of filming? Ruby 2010/2013 17:54, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
With no one evidently opposed, I have nominated the article for DYK here. Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 15:12, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

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