# Talk:Kir'Shara

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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 09:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Nominator: Miyagawa (talk)
Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 09:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Miyagawa (talk) 11:13, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

1: Well-written

a. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors: 
b. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists: 

2: Verifiable with no original research

a. Has an appropriate reference section:  Yes
b. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:  excellent (Thorough check on Google. Cross-checked with other FA & FL)

c. No original research:   Done

3: Broad in its coverage

4: Neutral

5: Stable: No edit wars, etc:  Yes

6: Images (None)

As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:

Fix first sentence of the lead.
Fix heading for the section Reception and home media release.
Fix short paragraphs.

This article is a very promising GA nominee. I’m glad to see your work here. I’m putting the article on hold. All the best, --Seabuckthorn ♥ 20:07, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, I've made those couple of edits as suggested. Miyagawa (talk) 21:40, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
OK, everything looks good now. Passing the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 03:04, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations on this article's promotion to GA! As a WP editor who hasn't watched much Star Trek, though, may I make one suggestion? At present it's unclear what the Kir'Shara is; as far as I can tell, all that's said about it here is that "contains the original word of Surak." Are we talking about some kind of book, or recording, or inscription, or box, or what? I'd imagine that a short definition or description would be appropriate for the plot summary (and probably the lead as well), since the episode is named after this artifact.--Lemuellio (talk) 19:09, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

It is such a simple thing to explain the meaning of an episode title but it is so obvious people often forget to include it. That got me thinking too that the appearance of the object should be described, so only 7 years later your request had been addressed. Since the Plot section must be kept short I went ahead and added a footnote describing the relic as a tetrahedron or triangular pyramid.[1] A text description is necessary but it would be better if the article included both text and an image. I added a request to the page heading that an image be added to the article, and I think it would be a good idea if it was an image of the Kir'Shara, ideally a split image showing both the inactive relic and the version glowing and projecting text, would best enhance reader understanding of the episode.
If we had more information perhaps the prop could also be described in the Production section.[2](Archive) -- 109.79.169.104 (talk) 23:24, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
The image of Archer activating the Kir'Shara[3][4][5] might be a good choice to represent the episode but I'd be hesitant to use an image from near the end of the episode. -- 109.79.78.84 (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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Part of the plot sounds like the allegations of wmd in Iraq (which had started a year before airing), and I'm surprised that this hasn't been taken up by any sources at that time. --Tilman (talk) 09:03, 26 November 2017 (UTC)