# Talk:2001 Biggin Hill Airshow disasters

@11wallisb, The following sources may be helpful.

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-guardian/172639636/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/evening-standard/172639782/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/southern-daily-echo/172639891/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/south-wales-argus/172639939/
Best, CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 19:38, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for these!
Would this webpage article be considered suitable for inclusion? [[1]] 11wallisb (talk) 20:27, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
Assuming that it is from this FlyPast Magazine, yes. It should be reliable enough, but try to look for additional sources. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 23:37, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
Ah, I used key.aero as a reference on another article. Always good to double check. Thanks again! 11wallisb (talk) 02:00, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
No problem. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 16:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@11wallisb I would love to review this article, though I'm a bit busy within the next few months, so here are some drive-by comments from me:

The lead should be expanded to include the investigation and its conclusions (perhaps reactions as well)?
Based on a cursory Google search, there seem to be images of the crash. This can be added to the article under WP:NFC.
Avoid Wikilinking countries per MOS:OL
Mention the location of the crash
This could be of potential use. It's written by Desmond Barker and may be considered a "subject-matter expert"
There was unanimous agreement that the weekend had been a terrible tragedy add that it was the Biggin Hill residents who thought of that or reword it.
Infobox needs citations for the "operator" parameters
Get rid of the "full citation needed" template
I'm debating on whether the report numbers should be mentioned or not
Icepinner  02:24, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Icepinner! Thoroughly appreciate this, thank you! There is absolutely no rush on this being reviewed at all, August being a summer month (for me at least) has proven an obstacle for dedicating time to Wikipedia. September or October I feel would work better as I'll be more confident at being able to dedicate a week or 2 to the GA review process! Happy editing! 11WB (talk)  02:31, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
No problem, @11wallisb. I may want to review this on October as I have a school break during that time, though any other editors are invited to review this article and consider my points during their review. Icepinner  11:33, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
List of completed tasks from editor @Icepinner:
 Done - (To be reviewed at GA review.) * The lead should be expanded to include the investigation and its conclusions (perhaps reactions as well)?
 Not done - (Need to establish which are okay to add and which are not, will wait for GA review for this.) * Based on a cursory Google search, there seem to be images of the crash. This can be added to the article under WP:NFC.
 Done *Avoid Wikilinking countries per MOS:OL
 Done *Mention the location of the crash
 Done - (Excellent find. This reference has been added into the reactions section with relevant details.) *This could be of potential use. It's written by Desmond Barker and may be considered a "subject-matter expert"
 Done *There was unanimous agreement that the weekend had been a terrible tragedy add that it was the Biggin Hill residents who thought of that or reword it.
 Done *Infobox needs citations for the "operator" parameters
 Done *Get rid of the "full citation needed" template
 Done *I'm debating on whether the report numbers should be mentioned or not 11WB (talk)  16:24, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
@Icepinner, I have spent a few hours today going through your suggestions. Thank you for these! The only one I have opted out of doing for now is the images, as I am uncertain which images are okay to use and which aren't. WP:IUP is something I try very hard not to violate, so I feel it is best I wait for the GA review for this! 11WB (talk)  19:19, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
Great, thanks! @11wallisb regarding IUP, it should be okay to use an image under NFC as it's automatically uploaded in a lower resolution and it'll only be used sparingly. The explosions can't really be described using text and I don't think the sources go into depth on the description of the explosions. Icepinner  23:36, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
I'll do some Googling. As long as the images being added don't trigger something like @JJMC89 bot, then I am happy to attempt it at least. If I can find some that are copyright free, that'll be even better! 11WB (talk)  23:41, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
Great! @11wallisb: this optional but I'm also a bit concerned with [1]. Given the frequency of its citation, it would be beneficial to use Template:Sfn or Template:Harvard citation to cite the relevant pages, as this would make spot checking easier. This may or may not get highlighted during the GAN review, but I would add it just in case. Icepinner  07:05, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for this! I've never worked with these before, I will need to be educated on exactly how they work. A quick look at both links suggests they may be for academic citations like journals specifically? You are correct that the investigation reports are cited a lot however, so this should be done to improve the layout of the article! 11WB (talk)  10:11, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

... that on both days of the weekend Biggin Hill Airshow event held in 2001, two separate military aircraft crashed?

Reviewed:
Comment: Recently passed GA.

11WB (talk)  23:09, 24 October 2025 (UTC).

This article is currently undergoing an A-Class review at WP:MILHIST. Improvements suggested there should be made to the article promptly. 11WB (talk)  05:47, 31 October 2025 (UTC)