# Talk:515 North Washington Street

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 13:59, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 13:59, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Sources are reliable.

Do we know when File:Express Spark Plug Company Alexandria.jpg was first published?  If not I think it would be safer to move this to en-wiki and treat it as fair use, which I think would justifiable.
"The most likely origin is that it had been likely placed there sometime around 1920 by the Bureau of Fisheries to advertise angling": two uses of "likely".
"The more well-known rumor to its origin is that local police placed the mannequin in the cupola as a way to trick the person or people responsible for the 1854 murder of Michael Kiggin to return to the building, where they would be caught": I don't follow -- why would the murderers return because they could see someone in the cupola?
-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 14:37, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

The source said the photo was taken around 1918. Do you think it needs a fair use if there's a difference between when the photo was taken and when it was possibly published? In regards to the murderers, I see what you mean about the wording. Hopefully it's clearer now. APK whisper in my ear 10:18, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Re the picture, yes, it matters when it was published.  If you take a photo in 1900 and first publish it in 2020, it counts as 2020 for copyright. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 00:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 Done APK whisper in my ear 06:03, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Spotchecks:

FN 4 cites "One of the tenants, realtor Bud Jordan, found Oscar in the attic. He dressed it in one of his suits and placed it beside a lamp in the cupola. He later told a reporter "People used to stop and come into the office and say, you know there's a guy up there and he doesn't seem to be moving? I know that's my suit and tie and hat that we dressed him in. Real estate was down at the time because we had nothing better to do." -- verified.
FN 12 cites "There is an adjoining park and an event space on the top floor with views of Old Town Alexandria and the Potomac River": verified.
-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 00:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
The image change is done, so passing.  The image is oversized for fair use but I'm going to let that go as a bot will fix it. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 21:56, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I disagree that image of the building from the Express Sparkplug era meets the non-free content criteria.  The stated purpose in the non-free usage rationale is for visual identification.  That purpose is fulfilled with a freely licensed image in the infobox and so does not meet WP:NFCC#1.   Furthermore, photo is from 1918, and although this particular photo cannot be verified to be PD, it is reasonable to think that there may be another photo from that era out there that was published prior to 1927 and would be in the public domain.  See my post to APK's talk page for a bit more detail.  I think this can be overcome with a change to the stated purpose, and a diligent search for PD photos though. -- Whpq (talk) 02:58, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
I see the argument, and I agree it's at least debatable.  I'm watching the article and this GA page (we should probably have the discussion on the talk page, not here, since the GAN is over) and will chip in if I can be helpful. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 03:04, 9 September 2022 (UTC)