# Talk:Battle of Manupur

Noorullah21, the commanders parameter is for key or significant commander as evidenced by the body of the article. It is not simply that they are mentioned in the body of the article, such as the death of Jani Khan - the only mention of Jani Khan in the body of the article. Their death does not evidence why they were a key or significant commander in the battle. There are others listed at present that are similar. The commanders section needs to be culled accordingly and to a maximum of seven per the template doc.
The Maharaja of Patiala (Patiala State) did not exist as such until 1762 (after the battle of 1748). Reference to it as a belligerent is an inappropriate anachronism. The use of the coat of arms for Malerkotla State would also appear to be an anachronism, with its English motto. Per MOS:FLAGS: it should not be used to represent the country when the context is specifically about a time period predating the flag. Cinderella157 (talk) 00:25, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

Patiala state came to creation in 1762, but the title of Maharaja of Patiala had existed since 1709 (Ala Singh was a local chieftan).
Jani Khan was a Mughal officer, meaning it is relevant for them to be in the infobox, no? Malerkotla’s flag can be removed. Noorullah (talk) 00:30, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
The title is for a person (commander) not a belligerent (a state or similar) and Ala Singh did not hold that title? Jani Khan being an officer (commander) does not make him (and some others) a key or significant commander. Being killed (what the body of the article mentions) does not make them a key or significant commander. Cinderella157 (talk) 11:05, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
He was.. Ala Singh held the title since 1709, Jani Khan's argument is sound. Noorullah (talk) 18:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Noorullah21, in this edit [1], you have reinserted the various icons (seals and coats of arms as well as flags) with the edit summary: Situations where flag icons may be used in infoboxes include: Summarizing military conflicts. MOS:INFOBOXFLAG is not a blanket exemption. Further detail is given at MOS:MILFLAGS - Can flag icons be used consistently? This is a case when they cannot as we are substituting a seal and a coat of arms for flags and one instance where there is no icon. The coat of arms is also an issue as it appears to be anachronistic. See also MOS:COA. I note a similar situation at Sack of Delhi (1757) with this edit [2]. Cinderella157 (talk) 00:53, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

I see the point with consistency and the coat of arms issue with Ala Singh. I'll mend that. Noorullah (talk) 20:58, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
For Durrani, the seal given is his own personal seal and I wouldn't see that applying to others in that sense. For other battles like Sack of Delhi I think its relevant to differentiate parties, in this case Manupur the sole party is the Durranis. Noorullah (talk) 21:06, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
Per MILFLAGS: If only a few have them [flags], it may be better to omit flags for all the items than to have a different layout for each one and When flag icons are used, they should be historically accurate ones. The seal of Ahmad Shah Durrani is not a flag and it is inappropriate to represent it as a flag (see also MOS:COA). Not all belligerents have a flag. In such a case, we should not use flags. Cinderella157 (talk) 22:17, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

This page should not be speedily deleted because.. the old page used poor quality sources, (see the AFD), there was also copyright issues with the sources used. Instead, numerous high quality sources have been substituted and added into the article that follow WP:RS and WP:HISTRS. Also see discussion at this page. --Noorullah (talk) 18:42, 21 July 2025 (UTC)