# Talk:Ancient Macedonians

Clarify that macednos is the singular form, while in the text you need plural form, which is macednoi Aetolorhode (talk) 23:29, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 23:42, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

The version 14:46, 26 October 2025 Wbm1058 of this article is translated into Chinese Wikipedia to expand an existing artile.--Wing (talk) 07:20, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

I strongly believe that there is a regional bias in the article. There is a well-known debate between North Macedonia and Greece regarding historical claims to Ancient Macedon. The population of Greece is 11 million, and that of North Macedonia is 2 million, which inherently creates the illusion of a majority opinion from the Greek perspective. The issue should be addressed. MacedonLinguist (talk) 09:40, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

That so-called debate officially ended with the Prespa agreement, where North Macedonia renounced all claims on ancient Macedonia, so your argument does not apply. Unless you have a good reason for the tag, it should be removed. StephenMacky1 (talk) 10:05, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
What specific qualms do you have with the current version of the article. Simply being vague about supposed conflicting opinions does not help improving wikipedia.
Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk) 13:35, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, but your personal opinion is not enough to push this template above.--Jingiby (talk) 09:50, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

The usage of the template doesn't require consensus. It is actually used in cases where artificial consensus due to population differences exist. Template:Globalize/doc  MacedonLinguist (talk) 10:02, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
And where was provided explanation where is this case where artificial consensus due to population differences exists? This needs to be checked if it is a real or an imagined, or marginal and not important case. --Jingiby (talk) 10:51, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
There is a well-known debate between North Macedonia and Greece regarding historical claims to Ancient Macedonia. On top of that, there is a debate between North Macedonia and Bulgaria over claims that ultimately go back to Ancient Macedonia, so people from Bulgaria tend to support the view of Greece. This pits editors from a combined pool of 20 million people against editors from a pool of 2 million. This creates an artificial consensus that silences other views. If you're from Greece or Bulgaria, then this section doesn't apply to you. It's just to attract people from other areas. MacedonLinguist (talk) 11:58, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
Croatian historian Tvrtko Jakovina cited the appropriation of Alexander the Great by the Macedonian historiography as example of an "obvious lie". Per  historian Michael Palairet, in the three-way dispute about Macedonian identity, the Bulgarian view is more objective than either the Greek or Macedonian view, but the Macedonian historiographical version departs even from common sense. --Jingiby (talk) 13:00, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
I agree that modern Macedonians are not direct descendants of ancient Macedonians. The same applies to modern Greeks as descendants of ancient Greeks, and to modern Bulgarians as descendants of the ancient Bulgars (who were Turkic). However, this is irrelevant here. The real issue is that, statistically, more people from a combined pool of 20 million will be motivated to present one side of the story.  MacedonLinguist (talk) 14:09, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not have that many editors from those countries, so there is no "artificial consensus" here. StephenMacky1 (talk) 14:00, 31 October 2025 (UTC)