# Talk:1-54

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Reviewer: Swpb (talk · contribs) 18:00, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

—swpbT 18:53, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Swpb, thanks for the review! I don't think it would serve the (relatively short) article by subsectioning the History. I considered splitting out a section on 1:54 NY but it didn't make sense in the overall history, so best to cover it in a single paragraph and continue along the general historical trajectory of the fair. I think the article is balanced for neutrality, especially given the sources. The fair's founder is a fine source for their curatorial practices and organizational history, especially when there is no source that suggest anything to the contrary. Appreciate the other comments and believe I have addressed them, if you'll have a look. Thanks again for your time! czar 19:19, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't see that my comments have been addressed, in terms of the necessary changes being made to the article. I won't make a stand on the formatting, but I do believe the remaining 2b and 4 issues require changes. If you don't agree, I can close the review so you can renominate the article and wait for another reviewer. —swpbT 19:27, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
@Swpb, I changed the ones that I agree warranted changing (which were most of your suggestions), and I explained why I didn't change the two statements (in #4) where I disagree. I think it makes for sloppy prose to provide attribution of statements when the attribution isn't necessary, and even if you think the clarifications make for better prose, I don't see how the neutrality is compromised with those two sentences remaining the way they are, especially for the purposes of the GA criteria. czar 19:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
... you failed the article over two sentences? Please restore the review and request a "2ndopinion" instead. If another editor agrees, I'll make the change. czar 13:03, 17 March 2017 (UTC)


### Second opinion
I agree with the point "African politics did not impede the selection process". That may be true, but it's coming from a biased source. I suggest you find some way of acknowledging that the opinion may be biased that makes it clear to the reader, or find an alternative neutral source providing the same opinion. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:48, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
"organizers ask themselves 'what is necessary, what can be achieved, how [to] do something different'". This is a statement from the fair's founder., and as such can be taken as a fair comment on the organizers' motivation. I do not consider it necessary to change this providing the fair's founder is one of the organizers. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:52, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, @Pbsouthwood. The first quote wasn't meant to be so declarative, as it is when separated from the second clause about visas. Rephrased to be truer to the source czar 00:16, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Rather different in scope, and now a neutral statement.
There is an ambiguous link to art fair in the lead.
Is there anything else you need an opinion on? Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:11, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Swpb. I believe the outstanding items have been satisfactorily modified. As you basically did all the work of the review, I invite you to comment and choose whether to pass or fail the article. I have no reason to dispute the quality of your review besides the items for which a second opinion was requested, as the nominator seems satisfied. If you fail it I will feel obliged to take up the review, and unless I find something unexpected, it will pass. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:42, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Pbsouthwood. Seeing the changes, I will not stop you from passing the article. The horrible taste in my mouth disinclines me to do it myself. —swpbT 16:55, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
I sympathise, and will deal with the formalities. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:19, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

This is an event in Britain. Why is the standard here American English? Please use {{ping}} if you respond. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Koavf, hiya—it's an international event held in London and New York. It has no inherent strong national tie to a region such that it would be called a "British" or "American" event. czar 00:25, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Czar, Ah, just saw London. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:28, 20 August 2019 (UTC)