# Talk:1984 Atlantic hurricane season

Where do you find those satellite images? juan andrés 02:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Below. ;) Really, though, the website is located http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/rsad/gibbs/gibbs.html It has satellite images of the entire world, every three hours, for every year back to 1983. I will get 1983's Atlantic ones tomorrow, though the rest of the world is up for grabs. Hurricanehink 02:58, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
OK :) juan andrés 05:08, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hurricanehink, I'm bringing good news, there will not be to much work tomorrow, only 3 storms to upload. Alicia is in the infobox ;) juan andrés 05:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Sweet, and I think the Monthly Weather Review has all three of them. Hurricanehink 13:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Subtropical Storm One
Tropical Storm Arthur
Tropical Storm Bertha
Tropical Storm Cesar
Tropical Storm Edouard
Tropical Storm Fran
Tropical Storm Gustav
Hurricane Hortense
Tropical Storm Isidore
Hurricane Josephine
Hurricane Klaus
Done. 3 more to go. Hurricanehink 02:46, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Just asking juan andrés 04:07, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

The only problem is the website I'm using only goes back to 1983, and the Monthly Weather Review has pictures for every storm for 1981 and 1982. 1979 and 1978 don't have any, but 1977 and I believe 1976 can be done once I finish 1983-2004. Hurricanehink 13:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Edouard was quite a storm. Jdorje 04:26, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. A rare fish Gulf of Mexico storm, though much of its large circulation was over land. Hurricanehink 13:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Good, thanks. Hurricanehink 02:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

This page work is already over. I hope you like. juan andrés 02:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Is im seeing double? or that Hurricane Josephine (1984) picture looks excatily like the Hurricane Bertha (1990) picture?

Storm05 18:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Wow, they are pretty similar! Hurricanehink 00:38, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Just fixing the Bertha image to be at Bertha (check the page history to see why).--Nilfanion (talk) 22:33, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

A new article is located at November 1984 Nor'easter in anticipation of a deep closed cyclone offshore Florida in the next few days, since it might be a good parallel to the upcoming event.  Why does it require a mention in this article?  Because there is a reference mentioning that it may have briefly transitioned into a tropical or subtropical cyclone late in its life cycle near Bermuda.  The cyclone is currently not included in the NHC hurricane track database.  I will leave it up to you all whether you want it included into this article.  Just an FYI.  Thegreatdr 04:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

This article covers a possible tropical storm that struck Texas in September which dropped heavy rainfall. It might be worth putting into an Other storms section, along with the aforementioned November nor'easter. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Note that this is for information use only, and not reference-able.  It should help you in your search for information.  Happy hunting.  Thegreatdr (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

10320  6/11/1984 M= 4  1 SNBR= 164            XING=0   TD1
10330  6/11*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*280 755  20    0*282 758  25    0*
10340  6/12*284 765  25    0*287 772  30    0*289 778  30    0*290 783  30    0*
10350  6/13*292 791  30    0*296 799  30    0*298 803  25    0*299 810  25    0*
10360  6/14*302 818   0    0*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*
10370 TD
10380  6/18/1984 M= 3  2 SNBR= 165            XING=0   TD2
10390  6/18*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*205 940  20    0*208 948  20    0*
10400  6/19*210 955  25    0*212 962  25    0*216 968  30    0*219 972  30    0*
10410  6/20*221 980  30    0*227 985   0    0*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*
10420 TD
10430  7/24/1984 M= 3  3 SNBR= 166            XING=0   TD3
10440  7/24*  0   0   0    0*118 478  25    0*120 500  25    0*127 521  25    0*
10450  7/25*130 545  30    0*133 569  30    0*139 590  30    0*142 615  30    0*
10460  7/26*145 635  30    0*148 658  25    0*150 680  25    0*152 702  20    0*
10470 TD
10530  9/ 6/1984 M= 3  5 SNBR= 168            XING=0   TD7
10540  9/ 6*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*210 960  20    0*213 961  25    0*
10550  9/ 7*218 963  25    0*220 966  30    0*223 968  30    0*227 971  30    0*
10560  9/ 8*230 978  25    0*232 981   0    0*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*
10570 TD

This review is transcluded from Talk:1984 Atlantic hurricane season/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer:  /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 20:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


### Criterion
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A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline: 

B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose): 

C. It contains no original research: 

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism: 

Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic: 

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style): 

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It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each: 

Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute: 

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Overall:
Pass or Fail: 
GA!


### To Work On list (specifics)
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2a: Reference 4, inaccessable. Any other format?
 Done Understood. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
2b: Newspapers: Can we get a better source? (1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 9)
 Question:   I meant could we find a link to the actual article (or is it on a different site with full text?) -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
2b: Ref 1, incorrectly referenced.
 Not done Philadelphia Daily  News vs. The Miami  Herald. That is the problem. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 00:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
2a: 12 (now 14), Linkable?
 Not done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 00:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
2a: some sources are the same. Merge them with WP:REFLINKS.
 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
2b: section 2 unsourced.
 Done Should be ok as is. The more we can include the better. WP:PSTS Exception in this case. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
2b: Can we get a little more sourcing on TS Arthor?
 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
2b: Facts unsourced for Hurricane Klaus & Lili
 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


### Comments
Please do not change the status of the criterion, the reviewer will change that their selfs.
Let me know when the review is done.  I'm assuming it's still in progress, since there are no comments by the reviewer.  Thegreatdr (talk) 21:51, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

For reference 1, you need to explain to me what you mean by "incorrectly referenced."  I was using it as independent support for the depression's existence.  If it's not needed, we could get rid of it.  Reference 4 is accessable, but you have to download the free viewer at this web address first.  As for the newspaper articles, all I can do (and have done) is back up the tropical depressions with the CLIQR database, which is a version of the extended best track database I've been using at work for use in the tropical cyclone rainfall climatology.  Other than newspaper articles, there is no information for the TDs other than the track, because the National Hurricane Center did not write individual storm reports on TDs that far back in time, and, between 1981-1987, did not publish their annual tropical weather systems article either.  There just simply isn't any other source for TD information for most of the 1980s.
I understand why you think there are identical sources in the reference section.  Click on them.  I can assure you they are different pages, though they are of the same parent document.  For whatever reason, the National Hurricane Center scanned their tropical cyclone reports in such a way that different pages of the same document are at different web addresses.  Therefore, I cannot group those references together with names, like I did with the CLIQR database.  As for the ACE statistics, the wikipedia page used as a source uses information from HURDAT to compute it.  If this is disallowed, I'll have to remove the section, because there is no way to source it.  Just let me know.  I have added additional refs for Arthur, Klaus, and Lili, per your request.  Thegreatdr (talk) 14:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your pacientce and sorry for the delay. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Your third and fourth items were easy to fix.  As for a better site with those newspaper articles, there used to be the hurricane archive, which had links to the whole newspaper page.  That site and its refs went away fairly recently.  The refs we have are the best we could find, for the time being.  If better sites present themselves for those newspaper articles, we'll link to them.  Thegreatdr (talk) 01:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation, I understand. Good job, your article is now at GA Status. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 00:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

This has become a minor issue lately as to whether there were 17, 18, or 19 TDs in 1984.  If you use NHC's non-development database, you could come up with 20, though one was clearly an extratropical cyclone on NMC surface weather maps when it was near Florida, which is why 20 isn't viable.  The system in their non-developmental database in early August northeast of Bermuda was well out at sea and at the limb of Meteosat imagery in the cold sector of the main polar front (it nearly appears frontal itself though from that angle it's questionable).  Another question is whether we are to follow current guidelines (where subtropical and tropical depression numbers are counted together) or 1984 guidelines, where subtropical storms/depressions were on a different numbering system?  Curious what you all think, because I'm not clear.  Thegreatdr (talk) 15:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)