# Talk:Ben Starosta

The article seems to have one clear flow that should be remedied before GA: lack of image. As a living person, and a public prefermer, it shouldn't be that hard to obtain a free image. Was any effort made to contact him and/or his manager for one? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Having an image isn't a criteria for GA, only that if images are used they're reliably sourced and licensed.  It is almost impossible to get free images of footballers as their image rights are owned and sold by the clubs, hence why 95% of football articles don't have them.  I did actually make various attempts to find one - but never heard back so short of travelling to Poland, going to a match and taking a picture myself there's little else I can do. Bladeboy1889 (talk) 08:32, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Ben Starosta/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: LauraHale (talk · contribs) 10:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 
There are too many external links.  Chose two.  Wikipedia is not a link directory.  Current club website and personal page, or personal page and social media presence are probably the ideals.  If others matter, they should be sourced inside the article. http://www.bradfordcityfc.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10266~36278,00.html this link] does not work anyway. Please fix the DABs.
Done Bladeboy1889 (talk)
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
The citation needed tag needs to be cleaned up.  Some of the sources are in Polish and I speak English.  I can auto-translate some of them with Google.  I just would really appreciate it the quote or trans_title could be used for these to make more clear what the text says to verify this. His birthday appears in the lead and the infobox but is not cited anywhere in the article.
Cited the DOB and the league winners.  I'm not sure what you're getting at re the Polish language sources?  They're easily translatable using Google or somesuch for anyone wanting to read them?? Bladeboy1889 (talk)
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 
Not sure this is an NPOV issue but "Seeking a new club Starosta took up an offer from Australian side Dandenong Thunder" makes me a bit uneasy as I know this is not an A-League team.  It feels like the article treats as default that everyone knows this club is second tier or hides the fact that he's playing second level Australian soccer by not stating this.  Would like a way to see this resolved in the article to make it clear what levels of football this guy played, because these levels matter a lot when it comes to notability.  there is no indication that he is playing for Miedź Legnica in 2012.
It's certainly not any attempt to hide the level of Dandenong - the level of most of the other clubs he's been at isn't mentioned, but I've included a mention of the the Victoria league anyway.  As for his current club - it's been so long since the article was put up for GA that he's since apparently left Miedz - I've updated this now. Bladeboy1889 (talk)
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 
Article is stable.  No edit wars.  No AfDs.  No rename proposals.
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
No images on articles.  It would be nice to have a confirmation that no images are available but not required.  Didn't see them on Commons.
Overall:
Pass/Fail: 
On hold while points addressed here are worked on.
I think everything is updated aside from your point about the Polish refs which I'm not sure what you mean. Bladeboy1889 (talk) 21:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

All concerns addressed.  Passing GAN. --LauraHale (talk) 23:43, 16 October 2012 (UTC)