# Talk:Alfred Dunhill

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 08:13, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I will review this.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:13, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
I look forward to your review. Farrtj (talk) 09:54, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Do we know his middle name/initial? Is it H.?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC)\
I am not aware of him having a middle name. Tom (talk) 12:28, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
One of the books I ran into online was written by Alfred H. Dunhill. I forgot whether it was one of the two mentioned below or another one. Please add content on his publications as an author.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:49, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
The Gentle Art of Smoking is probably the book you are referring to, and was written by Alfred Dunhill's son, Alfred H Dunhill. Tom (talk) 14:09, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
If his son is known as the publisher of an important book or for any other notable reason mention it in this article. P.S. make it clear, which of his books are in continuous printing and which are out of print.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:14, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
The son is already mentioned in the article. Tom (talk) 14:18, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I would split the life section into three sections: 1. Early life (through 1904), 2. Tobacco business, 3. Retirement--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:16, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Done. Tom (talk) 19:33, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
These can be sections rather than subsections.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:15, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Done. Tom (talk) 12:24, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Then, rewrite the WP:LEAD to summarize each section.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:17, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
I will leave this until last. Tom (talk) 12:26, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
You need to merge or expand the stubby 2nd and 4th paragraphs. Probably merge both into the third.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:38, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Done. Tom (talk) 19:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I would link important terms for this business like tobacconist, cigarette, lighter, and pipe.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:16, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Done. Tom (talk) 14:20, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Is the Duke Street here one of the ones at Duke Street?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:16, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
No. Tom (talk) 19:34, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Why not link Edward, Prince of Wales, luxury goods, Conduit Street?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:16, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
There is no article on Wikipedia that relates to the Conduit Street on Mayfair. Tom (talk) 19:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Have linked the other two. Tom (talk) 19:38, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Did he have children with his mistress/2nd wife?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:16, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
It appears that he did not. Tom (talk) 19:37, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Do we know when he moved into a nursing home?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:10, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
No. Tom (talk) 12:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Is The Pipe Book by the father or the son?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
The Alfred Dunhill discussed here wrote that book. Tom (talk) 12:26, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
This article needs to discuss his role as an author--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:45, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I believe it does so now. Tom (talk) 19:37, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Who authored The Gentle Art of Smoking?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
The Alfred Dunhill discussed here wrote that book also. Tom (talk) 12:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
This article needs to discuss his role as an author--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:45, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I have added sentences about the one book he published. As scholarly databases such as JStor are almost silent on this book, I consider it to be of little importance, and therefore I don't think it warrants much more attention. Tom (talk) 14:03, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I have uncovered that Alfred Dunhill's son, Alfred H Dunhill, wrote The Gentle Art of Smoking. Tom (talk) 14:11, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
This article needs an infobox.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:23, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Done. Tom (talk) 15:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Fix the dablinks in the toolbox.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:27, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Done.Tom (talk) 15:44, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Did the obits omit any middle name/initial?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Every single one omits a middle name/initial, from the Times to the NYT, and also the ODNB. Tom (talk) 19:42, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
We need a current value conversion for the 1959 gross assets.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:44, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Done. Tom (talk) 19:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
So that this updates itself every year, use a format like this: C$10,000 (C$98,805 in 2025 dollars)--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:35, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Done. Tom (talk) 11:37, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Why isn't an 1893 picture PD?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:44, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Although it was taken in 1893, I can't be certain it was published in 1893. Tom (talk) 19:47, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I think there are places on WP where you can get questions answered about WP:NFCC and WP:COPYVIO. There are experts on finding out when images were first published I think. Try to check around.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:35, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Where are we on this issue?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm just lost and confused. Tom (talk) 09:38, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Ask at the help desk on how to determine if an images from 1893 has been published.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:23, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Did you ask?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:39, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Also, you should probably have one image on the left.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:35, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Done. Tom (talk) 11:39, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
What's the status on this review? No comments since May. Wizardman 19:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I am still hoping to minimize FU by getting the image declared PD. I have tried to give advice on how to do so. Farrtj, what is the latest.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:22, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Farrtj can you please explain the state/progress of your information request regarding the photo.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:59, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
TonyTheTiger Sorry but due to personal issues I cannot spare the time to complete this review. Please feel free to close. Tom (talk) 15:15, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
The only issue is the licensing of the main image. I will leave a note that will appear at WP:GAN and wait for a response.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:23, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, TonyTheTiger, much obliged. Tom (talk) 21:27, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
@TonyTheTiger: I don't see any issue with the image's license. We don't know the original date or source of publication. I know it seems odd, but we would have to have evidence of it being published (including when and where) to prove that it was not still copyright.  We are better to err on the side of caution in this situation. Cheers, TLSuda (talk) 01:38, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
If the image is fine, then I can PASS this article now.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to raise the issue, but this article may have copyright problems.  The first substantial edit to this page on 24 December 2013 - immediately after the previous content was moved to Dunhill (luxury goods) - is a copy of the ODNB page (you will need a subscription).  Subsequent editing (diff) has left in place large chunks that are (or nearly) identical.  Here are some examples:

I welcome views from other editors, but I think this article may need to be rewritten from scratch. -- Ferma (talk) 19:13, 23 April 2014 (UTC)