# Talk:Achilles Last Stand

When an IP added this as a source for heavy metal, I was skeptical (there have been a lot of problematic genre changes to this article). But after some checking, Eric Schaal's profile on the website includes:

Eric Schaal is our in-house authority on classic rock and mob films/TV, and you’ll see why in his in-depth coverage of The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Goodfellas, and The Sopranos. Eric doesn’t have trouble finding inspiration to write about a band like Zeppelin, which continues to pack a wallop and attract new fans. He began freelancing for Endgame360 in 2013, joined our full-time team in 2016, and has been writing about entertainment since 2018.[1]
So, contrary to Synthwave.94's claim of "no staff review and the author is not a music critic", it appears that Schaal is on the staff and is a music critic. I don't think he nor cheatsheet.com is automatically disqualified under WP:SPS or WP:UGC, but I'd like to hear from others on whether cheatsheet.com exercises sufficient oversight, fact checking, etc.
—Ojorojo (talk) 13:52, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Not any real criticism here, just want to add, that much of the musical elements of ‘Friends’ No Quarter’ and others, fall well into the traditions of Northern and Western European folk music as well, including less tempered melodies. Bands such as Fairport Convention is one example of an influence and inspiration on LED Zeppelin in this area. 
In terms of Achilles Last Stand its self, I would say it’s actually a wonderful blend of Mediterranean and North Western European elements. The gallops in the bass certainly have a long tradition in western classical and folk music. The E minor modes in which the song is written, including the more pentatonic hollers at the end, also have their place in British and Irish musical traditions. Of course pentatonics in general are pretty universal and inherent. But that is the beauty of Led Zeppelin, they often fused music styles through common threads and parallels, while showcasing the uniqueness of each tradition, often East meets west, while creating their own. 
Thank you for this Page;) 73.15.153.181 (talk) 00:58, 11 February 2025 (UTC)