# Talk:Amanda Carter

The Pinnacle, The Victorian Institute of Sport Newsletter. Issue no. 11. June 1992. VIS Olympians. Page 3. Lists Brian McNicholl, Kelly Barnes, Sandy Blythe, Julie Barr, Amanda Carter, Paula Coghlan, Darren Collins, Anne Currie, Brad Evans, Stuart Ewin, John Lindsey, Craig Sayers, Greg Smith, Danielle Di Toro, Michael Walker and Jodi Willis as being scholarship holders that made the 1992 Paralympic Games squad. --LauraHale (talk) 6:24 pm, Today (UTC+11)

Efforts are being made to add content to this article to get it improved enough to nominate for Good Article.  Efforts to improve the article are nominally being based on the article about Lauren Jackson given the sheer amount of information available about female wheelchair basketball players when compared to other sports like goalball.  Hence, the article could really use a good copy edit, maintaining as much information as possible for the short term until all the content is in to determine what belongs and does not. The goal is to nominate the article for Good Article by the end of September.  In the mean time, the article has also been nominated for Did You Know. --LauraHale (talk) 10:49, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to improve the article, but all I'm getting are specious blocking threats. It would be better to discuss the substance of my edits. Graham87 05:42, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry about that :( Some of the deletions are very contentious. I currently trying to upgrade the article too. I really need the article to stay the way it is for a few days. Can you please hold off editing it, just for a few days? We can then discuss changes you wish to make. Hawkeye7 (talk) 06:33, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
It is not absolutely essential that this article meet arbitrary criteria just so it can appear on the Main Page for six hours. In a choice between leaving trivial content in an article just so it can satisfy some arbitrary hoops and removing it, I would always favour the latter option, but that's just me. However, there are two statements that you put back that I would really like to ask about *now*, because they complicate the narrative somewhat and I have good reason to believe that at least one of them was mistaken:
Amanda's supposed appearance in the 1990 Gold Cup is contradicted by her APC profile and isn't mentioned in either her SportingPulse profile or her 2000 Paralympics profile. As far as I can determine, the passage cited just appears to be a photo caption; it is entirely possible for people to be misidentified.
Her supposed selection for the 2002 test series in Canberra is contradicted by this 2004 interview, where she unequivocally says that she did not play wheelchair basketball after the Sydney Paralympics. The source for this information is a local newspaper from another state that highlights Kylie Gauci's selection on the team, and is not a definitive source  for the lineup of the team at that time. Why would somebody select a person to a wheelchair basketball team who hasn't played in over a year? Exceptional claims like that require exceptional sources. Graham87 09:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm working on it!!!!! Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:39, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I wonder if the APC Media Guide for 1992 can shed any light on the first point? Graham87 06:02, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
I've spoken to Amanda, and this is correct. She was selected for the 2002 test series, but did not play. Hawkeye7 (talk) 07:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Fantastic, I'm glad we cleared that up. Could you ask her about the 1990 Gold Cup? I'm more inclined to believe that one because of the nature of the cited source. Graham87 05:46, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Yes, she did not recall playing in that tournament. She recalled the next one, in 1994 at Stoke Mandeville. Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:02, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
OK, thanks. I've removed it, if only because it's inconceivable that someone would completely forget about their *first ever* international tournament. I've also re-incorporated some of my copyediting and flow changes, without removing any other content this time. Graham87 13:02, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

She spent her childhood living in Banyule. As a youngster, she played netball. She went to Olympic Village Primary School. She attended Latrobe High School from years 7 to 10 and Thornbury High School in years 11 and 12. She then attended LaTrobe University where she obtained a Bachelor of Applied Science and a Masters in occupational therapy. She works as an occupational therapist and has a son, Alex. As of 2012, she lives in the Melbourne suburb of Heidelberg West. Tony (talk)  10:01, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:SOFIXIT. :)  Glad to see you're assisting in improving this article Tony1.  It isn't substandard.  Rather, you just haven't improved it yet. :) Wikipedia is a collaborative effort where we work together to improve articles.  The first step with improving this article was to find the sources of information, get the information into the article, and then improve the article with the goal of taking it to GA. :)  I've been busy doing follow up to London Paralympic things, including a workshop and a conference, and working on an academic paper.  I haven't had as much opportunity to work on the wheelchair basketball articles as I could. :D But I am absolutely ecstatic that you've taken an interest and will be editing to improve the article for a GA nomination. :D --LauraHale (talk) 10:10, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 10:55, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Will review later on today (after I get back from the Vikings v Steelers game at Wembley). Miyagawa (talk) 10:55, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder, I'd completed forgotten! I'll get onto this. Miyagawa (talk) 09:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I'm now reviewing. The article is in good shape and I don't see it being very far at all from being a fairly straight forward GA pass. I'll do the minor copyedits myself as they're rather niggily and so far just seem to be to avoid the repetition of words.
National team: "The Canadian player who knocked her down tried to block the way for Australian officials to help her up." Two things - can we specify which Canadian player it was, and also, if we can - you will want to put a direct citation after the sentence due to the BIO issues.
Y My word yes. It was Tracey Ferguson, and she even has an article. Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:54, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
The only other thing, is that I'd suggest you create an external links section and move the commons link box down to that. It looks rather odd sitting in the statistics section.
Y Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:54, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Images are all present and correct, everything is cited. I only ended up making a couple of edits for repetitive words (but then again, how many different ways can you say Paralympic Games anyway?). So all good. Once those two points are addressed, I think this one will be fit for a upgrade to GA status. Miyagawa (talk) 10:11, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
All points addressed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:54, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 
Meets all requirements.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
All sources are reliable and suitably used.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
Broad in coverage, while focused on the subject.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 
Neutral, and cited as appropriate.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
All images are suitably used.
Overall:
Pass/Fail: 
Happy to promote this one as a GA. Good job. Miyagawa (talk) 11:09, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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