# Talk:Blue nuthatch

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Reviewer: AryKun (talk · contribs) 07:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey, will be doing this soon. AryKun (talk) 07:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)


### Lead
"in the family Sittidae, collectively known as nuthatches." → "in the nuthatch family Sittidae"
 Done
"which lacks sexual dimorphism" → Later in the text, it's said that it shows slight sexual dimorphism
Attempted
"the upper and" → Upper what?
 Done
"the feathers" → Feather should be replaced with covert feather or wing coverts, judging by the link
 Done
"and in Indonesia, on the islands of Sumatra and Java" → "and on the islands of Sumatra and Java in Indonesia"
 Done
"inhabiting" → "where it inhabits"
 Done
Information on feeding repeated in the lead
 Done removing
"distinguished" → "recognized"
 Done
"vary" → "differ"
 Done
"apparent closest relatives" → Is "apparent" necessary here?
 Done removing
"rigorously estimated" → "determined"
 Done
Flip the order of the last two sentences in the lead.
Attempted
Least concern should be lowercase.
 Done


### Infobox
The species' scientific name doesn't need to be repeated in the image caption. Also, the common name should be lowercase.
 Done
Add a ref for the synonyms.
 Done
Move the range map from distribution and habitat to the infobox.
 Done
Hi AryKun, Thanks for taking this. I did most of your concerns. Take a look if it's okay. 2001:4455:1A9:E100:F033:A3AE:BBE2:389B (talk) 10:37, 16 December 2021 (UTC)


### Taxonomy
I think the info about description should come first. i.e. switch the positions of "The nuthatches constitute...a black eyestripe." and "The blue nuthatch was first...Lesson (1794–1849)"
 Done
Could Sitta be between parentheses instead of dashes?
 Done
"proposed a revision of the nuthatch genus, in which certain species would be split off into separate genera, based on distinct morphological traits " → "Proposed splitting Sitta in multiple genera on the basis of distinct morphological traits"
 Done
Why is the order of scientific and common name reversed for the beautiful nuthatch? Also, formosa should be lowercase.
 Done
No citation for the third paragraph.
Attempted
Could you replace "et. al" with "and colleagues"?
 Done
The wiki link to mitochondrial DNA should include the word DNA.
 Done
Could "statistical association" be replaced with a less technical term?
 Done changed it into correlation
If the yellow-billed nuthatch wasn't included in the study, how was its position in the clade inferred?
Actually, I have no clue, since it might require access to the website "birdoftheworld". But done removing.  Done
"plus" → "along with"
 Done
The phylogenetic tree should be moved up to below the paragraph about the study.
 Done
For the number of subspecies, IOC would be a better ref since that's the taxonomy we use.
You mean this? [1]  Done
Lesson, 1830 after the nominate subspecies shouldn't be in parentheses.
 Done
Link nominate subspecies.
 Done
You could remove the middle names for Robinson, Kloss, and Lesson.
 Done
Ref 10 should be moved to the end of the sentence since the locations of collection of the type is unsupported by any ref.
 Done


### Description
This section is poorly organized, and keeps moving from point to point, making it hard to understand. The general sequence of the section should be: appearance of the nominate subspecies → sexual dimorphism → difference between subspecies
 Done
The video should be moved to be beside Diet
 Done
Move the subspecies images above Vocalizations
 Done
Mantle should be linked.
 Done
Upperparts should be one word and linked.
 Done
Specify that retrices are flight feathers on the tail.
 Done
Link crown.
 Done
Is the "brown cast" in juveniles only on the ear coverts and crown, or does it extend over the whole body? The sentence should be reworded to make this clearer.
Attempted rewording it.
Is the informations about all the measurements necessary? It seems too specific for a Wikipedia article.
 Done removing.
AryKun missed this yesterday, due to destruction of Typhoon Rai. Done. 180.194.213.114 (talk) 22:00, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
It's fine, your health and safety obviously matters much more than minor problems in a Wikipedia article.


### Vocalizations
Maybe the vocalizations be reminiscent of those of other nuthatches could be moved to the end of the paragraph, since it's unlikely the reader will known what the other species' vocalizations are.
 Done
Could the paragraph quoted from HBW be rephrased in running prose?
Attempted rephrasing it.


### Diet
Blue-and-black tanager?
Sorry, I actually was checking that article about sourcing and etc, somehow forgot to change it. Facepalm  Done
"including species of Trachypholis Zopheridae beetles, typical click beetle (of the family Elateridae), leaf beetles (in the subfamily Eumolpinae) and spiders and moth caterpillars" → " including Trachypholis beetles, click beetles, Eumolpinae leaf beetles, spiders, and moth caterpillars."
 Done


### Breeding
"Reproduction" should be replaced with "breeding" and unlinked.
 Done
Nest shouldn't be linked either.
 Done
AryKun Done, but since I couldn't see what's on BOHW, I'm not that sure about my changes on HBW's quoted paragraph if it is already a "running prose". 2001:4455:1A9:E100:11F9:B932:7CFF:4AD4 (talk) 11:44, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, the vocalizations paragraph is nearly word for word similar to the BOTW one, I'll rephrase it later. AryKun (talk) 11:52, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for handling it! I actually doesn't have that much IQ about biology, but was actually trying to make something here since its a "GA" on french article. 2001:4455:1A9:E100:11F9:B932:7CFF:4AD4 (talk) 11:55, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
This actually brings me to something that I'd noticed before. I speak some (iffy) French, and noticed that much of this article seemed like it was a direct translation of the French version. If this is the case, tell me, because translating between Wikipedias requires attribution that I'll add. AryKun (talk) 12:18, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Based on history. It was actually translated from french article. There are a lot of Nuthatch articles at French were GA, but only this and yunnan nuthatch was translated/expanded that are not GA yet. 2001:4455:1A9:E100:4D71:148:54FF:65A3 (talk) 12:23, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
AryKun, just incase if you forgot it, sorry for disturbing :). 2001:4455:1A9:E100:B814:9155:AACC:B24F (talk) 21:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
I've made a couple final edits myself and passed the article, congratulations and thank you for being so prompt with your responses my comments. AryKun (talk) 03:59, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
AryKun Your GA article Blue-and-black tanager actually inspired me to do this. Thank you for your time on rewording it, Merry Christmas! 2001:4455:1A9:E100:C48:A690:9151:1BDF (talk) 04:39, 22 December 2021 (UTC)