# Talk:American League of Colored Laborers

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Nominator: JJonahJackalope (talk · contribs) 18:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Relativity (talk · contribs) 23:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I'll be reviewing this against the good article criteria. I am still traveling but lately have gotten more active on Wikipedia, and will return in the next day or so, so I should finish this within a week. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 23:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)


### Copyvio check
Earwig's is coming out clean, although I'll check for close paraphrasing when I do the spotcheck. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 23:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


### Prose check
A couple of preliminary comments; hold for more:

Lead—Its initial officers included Samuel Ringgold Ward as president, Douglass and Lewis Woodson as vice presidents, and Henry Bibb as secretary, and during the first meeting, an executive committee was organized that was composed of several notable social reformers and abolitionists.—reads as a bit long-winded. I recommend splitting this into "Its initial officers included Samuel Ringgold Ward as president, Douglass and Lewis Woodson as vice presidents, and Henry Bibb as secretary. During the first meeting, an executive committee was organized that was composed of several notable social reformers and abolitionists."
Split the sentence into two as recommended above. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Background—I assume that the Coachman's Benevolent Society was a benevolent society. What were the Humane Mechanics, Baltimore Caulker's Association, and Colored Sailor's Home?
The source I used for that sentence lists these organizations in a discussion of "mutual aid societies", and several are explicitly referred to as "benevolent societies" as well. In writing the article, I decided to follow the author and keep these groups listed together as examples of both "mutual organizations and benevolent societies". -JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Honestly, I'm trying to find comments to add here, but I can't. This is probably the most clear, well-written GA I've ever reviewed (granted, I haven't reviewed that many). I'll take another read-through to see if I can come up with anything else, but so far, I understood it very well. Hold for (possibly) more. Great work! ‍Relativity ⚡️ 03:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
@Relativity:, I just wanted to reach out to let you know that I made a few edits in reply to your comments above. Thanks for initiating this review and please do not hesitate to reach out if you have any further questions, comments, or concerns. Thanks, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Yeah, I think I don't have any more comments as far as prose goes. Wow. I'll get the spot check ready. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 20:52, 12 January 2025 (UTC)


### Source check
Hold for more updates.

1—Can't access this source. All good.
3—All good
7—All good, except for one part: "and increased European immigration that stifled the development of black industry". This claim is cited to this source, but I'm not seeing anything in the article about immigration. Is this part cited to McElderry's source (which I can't access)? If so, I suggest moving that citation to the end of the sentence with source 22.
8—Can't access this source
9—All good
12—All good
13—All good
15—All good
19—Can't access this source
22—Can't access this source All good.
23—All good
24—All good
29—All good
@JJonahJackalope: The source spot check is coming out good, although I need some clarification on source number seven. You don't have to send me copies of every source I can't access, but could you send me sources one and twenty-two to me? They're used quite a bit in the article, so I'd just like to double check that everything's good there. By the way, sorry for the wait—real-life work has gotten in the way. Again, great article. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 02:02, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

@Relativity:, it seems like the issue may lie with Google Books, as it appears that the formatting for those two books has changed from what I remember when I was first writing this article. It's a bit more difficult to access, and the page numbers are not present, but the information cited in Reference 1 can be found here, encompassing the information presented in the paragraph directly above the "Trade Unions on the Move in the 1850s" header. Unfortunately, I was not able to find a copy of this book on Internet Archive or another easily-accessible source. Reference 22 can be found here and, fortunately, has the page numbers included. Let me know if this works for you and if you have any further questions, comments, or concerns about this article. Thanks, JJonahJackalope (talk) 12:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your response! Source one checks out. I couldn't access Organizing Black America: An Encyclopedia of African American Associations from the GBooks link, but I managed to find a preview of it from Amazon that included the ALCL. It checks out. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 03:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
@Relativity:, sorry for the late reply to this, I must have missed your comment last time I looked over your review, but concerning the citation issue with the "and increased European immigration that stifled the development of black industry", I have removed the Bradley citation, since all of the information presented in that sentence can be found in the McElderry source already present at the end of the sentence. Thanks, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 15:08, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
@Relativity what is the status of this review? —Ganesha811 (talk) 00:55, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
@Ganesha811 and JJonahJackalope: The article is ready to promote, I think. I've checked the images and they seem fine. Source and prose checks are coming out clear. Great work! This article, as I said, is one of the most well-written ones I've reviewed. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 02:27, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
@Relativity Could you please update the Wikipedia:Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/January 2025 page to reflect this so I can tally up your points? IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 18:36, 11 March 2025 (UTC)