# Talk:911 (Lady Gaga song)

Karina Akopyan the artist who designed pieces for the music video she is Russian/Armenian artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shant Yepremyan (talk • contribs) 

Please source this claim and please sign your comments with four tildes:~~~~, so we know who you are. Thanks! Doggy54321 (talk) 21:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
It is written on her Instagram page, also the last post that she did about the music video she used 2 hashtags russianartist, armenianartist, and her last name ends with yan that is another sign that she has Armenian descent. Shant Yepremyan (talk) 21:36, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Please provide a link to her Instagram. Also, there should be no detective/clue work, there are non-Armenian names that end in Yan. Also, social media is not WP:RELIABLE, and if you are going to cite a credit, you shouldn’t use a WP:PRIMARY, instead look for secondary sources to back your claim up. Thanks! Doggy54321 (talk) 22:21, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Why is it assumed that its a nurse in the video? It could be a physician. This needs checked and sourced. 2A02:C7F:8ECF:9900:7D65:7B46:9277:80BF (talk) 10:40, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

What about "medical professional"? ---Another Believer (Talk) 12:54, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
The source linked below refers to the characters as a "paramedic" and "doctor". I worry that the use of "nurse" is a case of everyday misogyny. 2A02:C7F:8ECF:9900:7D65:7B46:9277:80BF (talk) 17:00, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Could be useful for expanding the Music video section: 
 

Here is a space for editors to add their comments. Just to refresh everyone’s memory: was the single released on September 18 or September 25? The 25th is when it was sent to radio, and the 18th was when the music video came out. Now - neither of those make the song a single, so we need to come to a consensus. I’m confused and remain neutral. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 01:20, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

@Lil-unique1: can you please clarify an edit summary of yours? In it, you say "Gaga said '911' is the next single. it was then made available on YouTube. Music videos count towards streaming therefore this is a release format." I don’t get it. Music videos do count towards streaming, so do digital downloads and streaming services. Because now, I can argue that the single was released May 29 since that was the day it was available to stream, which isn’t true. Music videos ==/== singles, non-singles have music videos too. Please clarify what you mean. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 12:30, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
May 29 was when the album was released. All album songs are available to stream so being available digitally does not make a song a single. In "911"'s case, Gaga announced it was a single and then released the music video. The music video is an independent release from the album and a separate medium meaning it should count as a release date as long as it is backed up by confirmation that the song is a single. In the UK, this tactic is used quite a bit where a "date" is announced for a single and things are promoted to that date but there is never a separate listing digitally for it - this is called an impact date. People on wiki get too hung up on the idea of "radio adds" being the be all and end of single releases. In the digital era, songs are picked up by radio if they want to play them, not just cause they're made available. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 13:57, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok thank you! D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 15:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)