# Talk:Barracuda Lounge

@Nikkimaria: Is there something in the MOS to support changes like this? If not, I'd like to restore the standard address format. Thanks, Armadillopteryxtalk 00:54, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

(1) MOS:LINK, specifically MOS:SEAOFBLUE, indicates that placing two links right next to each other is not appropriate as they are not visually distinguishable. (2) MOS:POSTABBR indicates that postcodes (including the US equivalent) and state abbreviations should not be included in infoboxes. (3) It's redundant to include a full postal address when the location parameter is also used. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:04, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
@Nikkimaria: Thanks. I'm aware of MOS:SEAOFBLUE, which says to avoid links right next to each other when possible, but it does not strictly prohibit the practice. MOS:POSTABBR is something I'd searched for but not found previously—thank you for linking that! Do you know of any documentation on how the address field and location field are supposed to be used together in infoboxes like this? To my dismay, I couldn't find anything in the infobox documentation while writing the article. Armadillopteryxtalk 01:26, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately that's something that's typically documented on a template-by-template basis. On the matter of linking, while it's not strictly prohibited, I don't see a strong rationale for this edit since it makes the article less accessible for our readers. Can you explain? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:03, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes. This edit undid a change that had introduced a grammatical error into the sentence. The term "New York City" is offset by commas per MOS:GEOCOMMA, but changing the first comma to "in" without deleting the second comma makes the remaining comma an error. The clause "that is known for its nightly drag shows" is a restrictive relative clause and is not supposed to be preceded by a comma.
Simply removing the comma would result in a grammatical sentence, but it would also make the sentence more cumbersome and less readable. Having some kind of punctuation to break the sentence up makes it clearer for readers, but obviously it shouldn't go against grammatical conventions or the MOS. Personally, I think the present version is the most concise way to handle that, though I'm open to suggestions. Armadillopteryxtalk 11:19, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
[8].  Nikkimaria (talk) 11:39, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Works for me! Armadillopteryxtalk 11:42, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Another Believer, it's good to see you around, as always!

Just wanted to leave a quick note that there is significant variation in screen sizes + aspect ratios, and edits that may make an article look better one one screen can be a significant disimprovement on another.
The latest two formatting edits to this article make it much worse on my screen. The "Star Search" image is now pushed many lines down from where it's meant to be, as it's crashing into the infobox. This in turn pushes the image of Nathan Lane further down, and that image then pushes the image of the fish tank so far down that it's not even in the right section anymore.
I also don't think, in general, that it looks good for a relatively short article with five images to have them all aligned on one side of the screen and none of the other. It looks like one long snake of a photo gallery on my screen.

The latest edits to the Q similarly cause issues on my screen. The photo grid is pushed way out of position by the infobox, which wasn't happening when the grid was on the left side of the page instead of the right.
I'm assuming these edits are improvements to the article on your screen, so I won't revert them, but did just want to point out that it may be worth it to consider what's optimal for screens of different sizes and aspect ratios when making layout adjustments.
Anyway, hope you're having a good day, and happy editing! Armadillopteryx 04:30, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

@Armadillopteryx Hello! I completely understand where you're coming from. Ever since Vector 2022 was implemented, I've tried to place media in ways which work for many screen types. On my screen, left-aligned images are often problematic and cause text to get squeezed. I've been working to adjust media based on the new skin, but understand what looks best on my laptop screen may not look best for others. I very much invite you to display images in the ways that work best for you, especially on articles where you're the primary author! I certainly won't be offended -- I want the articles to look the best for the most number of people, so be bold! :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 12:21, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
Update: I've reverted my two most recent edits. As I said in the edit summary, I don't prefer how the two-image gallery with the caption "Stage area at Barracuda..." interferes with the box quote, but I want what's best for most users. Feel free to tinker with things here or over at The Q. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:38, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Barracuda-Lounge-NYC-Nightlife-Hotspot-Closes-Doors-After-30-Years-20250317
--Another Believer (Talk) 02:53, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Ha, I made a note to self to add this exact ref yesterday when the news broke. Will do shortly. Armadillopteryx 18:09, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
This is now done. Armadillopteryx 18:43, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! --Another Believer (Talk) 01:59, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
A couple more I came across (though these don't seem to contain any notable info that isn't already sourced in the article):

https://ny.eater.com/2025/3/19/24389345/chelsea-barracuda-closing-nyc-gay-club-march-2025
https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/gay-bar-and-drag-launching-pad-barracuda-lounge-to-close-after-three-decades-in-chelsea-032025
Armadillopteryx 03:24, 21 March 2025 (UTC)