# Talk:Bill Clinton

A section was removed July 2024 as follows, (normally as section 8.7, subsection of 8 Post-presidency (2001–present))
Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein
In the early 2000s, Clinton took flights on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet in connection with Clinton Foundation work.[363][364] According to Epstein's attorney Gerald B. Lefcourt, Epstein was "part of the original group that conceived of the Clinton Global Initiative".[365] In 2002, a spokesperson for Clinton praised Epstein as "a committed philanthropist" with "insights and generosity".[366] While Clinton was president Epstein visited the White House at least 17 times.[367][368] Years later, Epstein was convicted on sex trafficking charges. Clinton's office released a statement in 2019 saying, "President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York. In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation. Staff, supporters of the Foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on every leg of every trip. [...] He's not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade."[363][369][370]
However, later reports showed that Clinton had flown on Epstein's plane 26 times.[371] In another statement Clinton said "one meeting with Epstein in his Harlem office in 2002, and around the same time made one brief visit to Epstein's New York apartment with a staff member and his security detail". In July 2019 it was reported that Clinton attended a dinner with Epstein in 1995, a meeting with Epstein that Clinton had not previously disclosed.[372]
Clinton reportedly used Epstein's private jet to visit Little St. James Island, where Epstein resided,[373] on multiple occasions between 2002 and 2005.[374] Virginia Roberts, later known as Virginia Giuffre, says in a lawsuit that while working at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort[375] she was lured into a sex-trafficking ring run by Epstein and while traveling with Epstein she saw Clinton on the island.[376] In a 2011 conversation with her lawyers, Roberts stated that Clinton traveled to Epstein's retreat on Little St. James in 2002.[377] According to Roberts, Epstein told her that Clinton "owes me favors" when she asked what he was doing there.[378] She also reportedly claimed that Epstein and Clinton had dined in the presence of two girls aged approximately seventeen whom she believed Epstein had invited to have sex with Clinton, but that Clinton showed no interest in them.[379] A Freedom of Information Act request for United States Secret Service records of visits Clinton may have made to Little St. James produced no such evidence.[376] According to Epstein's flight logs, Clinton never flew near the U.S. Virgin Islands.[377] In July 2019, a Clinton spokesperson issued a statement saying Clinton never visited the island.[380][381] According to former Clinton aide, Doug Band, Clinton visited Epstein's island in January 2003.[382][383]
In 2024, unsealed court documents revealed allegations that Clinton had visited the offices of Vanity Fair and 'threatened' the paper not to print stories about Epstein's sexual trafficking. Former Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter denied the incident ever took place.[384][385] 

As we know that this section was removed by a user whose (multiple) accounts were banned due to Abuse, can we please reinstate this important information, AND THEN lock the page? VNtruder (talk) 22:50, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. This issue has been discussed previously on the talk page, with multiple editors expressing opposition to reinstating the material in question. My personal opinion is that a shorter summary of Clinton's relationship with Epstein should be included, but we will need to reach a consensus first before any edit requests can be made. As for locking the page, the page is already semi-protected. If you would like the protection level to be increased, the place to request that is at WP:RFPP. But if the issue is that a now-blocked user made an edit back in July 2024, that certainly doesn't justify page protection. Day Creature (talk) 23:13, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

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"He is the maternal grandfather to Chelsea's three children."
What precisely is the purpose of this sentence? ~2025-33693-89 (talk) 22:51, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

[1]. ~2025-34501-56 (talk) 20:39, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

There is already a standalone article on that subject. Maybe it could be linked somewhere in the body of the article? A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 20:58, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
You are justifying creating the section based on Clinton's birthday message to Epstein and not more broad details related to their relationship. I don't mind the section being created, but I do hold an objection to it being created based on the justification of a simple birthday message Clinton sent. As there is also already a standalone article about their relationship, the section would have to be much smaller too, perhaps the size of the one in the Donald Trump article.MyGosh789 (talk) 22:40, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
It also shouldn't exclude how their relationship was set up likely through Ghislaine Maxwell, with Virginia Giuffre even later stating that Ghislaine Maxwell "loved to talk about how easily she could get former President Bill Clinton on the phone"-a hint that she arranged meetings between Epstein and Clinton, which Maxwell even alleged in August 2025 that she would do during the times Clinton and Epstein met-[2][3] and also how "she and Epstein had visited the White House together when Clinton was in office."[4] Maxwell has claimed that Clinton "was my friend, not Epstein's friend."[5] MyGosh789 (talk) 23:07, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
Is Virginia Giuffre a reliable source on Maxwell's bragging? She certainly had motive to be hostile to Maxwell. Dimadick (talk) 07:30, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

if clinton somehow holds the title, why can't it be in this article? do you think that tibetian culture isn't important to us presidents? 静魔魔女 (talk) 17:17, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

@Ser! @Guyfromearth2 静魔魔女 (talk) 17:18, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
why is it 'sure as hell doesn't belong in the article' when some tibetian people are acutally worshipping him, at least according to gontang tsang renpoche? 静魔魔女 (talk) 17:21, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
In no way is this WP:DUE. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:48, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
静魔魔女 if you reinsert that content, it is absolutely a brightline WP:3RR violation and I will block you for it. Admins can block you for edit warring even if you don't exceed three reverts. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:53, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
ser said that it's not suitable for the lead, so i'm trying to delete some lines, trying to make a new version! 静魔魔女 (talk) 17:55, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
As I said in my edit summary, a hypothesis about somebody being a reincarnation of someone else is not suitable for the article at all, let alone the lead.... ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 18:02, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
do you think that tibetian culture isn't important to us presidents? Not really, no. A lot of kids in Kosovo are named after Tony Blair, but we don't cram that into the lead of his article. Also, be aware this article is under a rule of "one revert per 24h", which you've now exceeded. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 17:49, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
I didn't know that about Blair. That's way more relevant to his article than some potential reincarnation is to Clinton. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:54, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
It's an interesting one alright. Funny enough, a few are even named "Klinton" after the subject of this article... But yes, agreed. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 17:57, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
i was just trying to make a new version according to your suggestion, maybe you can check again 静魔魔女 (talk) 18:00, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
The user reverted me, making a 3RR violation on a 1RR page. I blocked them for 72 hours. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:03, 20 November 2025 (UTC)