# Talk:Bacon Explosion

The subject has a full-length article in the New York Times, and NYT article is primarily about the amount of interest generated in the topic, including secondary coverage. It neatly fits into the general notability guideline as such. Bongomatic 20:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

http://www.bbqaddicts.com/bacon-explosion.html
Should we add one of the images from there onto this article? Gune (talk) 07:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Do you think a fair use rationale applies, or that this has been licensed in a way consistent with WP policy? I sent an e-mail to BBQ Addicts asking them to release one of the pix into PD or license it using CC / GFDL, but haven't heard back yet. Bongomatic 08:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Of course I think it applies. Gune (talk) 09:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Really? What about criterion (1) of WP:FUC? Couldn't Drmies just make one and shoot it? Bongomatic 09:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Bongo, are you crazy?? Although...5000 calories...500 grams of fat...that's not so bad...if I don't eat it with too much mayonnaise... You know what, I'll give it some thought! Drmies (talk) 14:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone ever asked thw question how many calories and grams of fat are in one serving?  Sure, the whole dish has 5000 calories, but who is going to eat that?  A half-gallon of ice cream probably has about the same, but most people only eat one bowl at a time.--Dspillmann (talk) 17:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)dspillmann
This isn't a one per person dish? :) I wonder what sides are commonly served with an Explosion of this type? Would it pair well with vegetables? potatoes? It seems more context is needed, but perhaps more time is needed to establish servign protocols. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
It's covered by no free equivalent. Gune (talk) 18:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, actually it is (the one uploaded is free use). And anyway, WP:FUC criterion number one is where "no free equivalent is available, or could be created" (emphasis added). Given the widespread availability of bacon, sausage, and BBQs / smokers, it is impossible to successfully argue that no equivalent could be created. Bongomatic 18:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

An anonymous editor added an unreferenced claim that two specific individuals had invented the dish. I vaguely recall seeing something indicating that the idea may not have originated with the bloggers who popularized and named the dish, but can't recall the reference–anyone? Bongomatic 00:24, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, here it is, from the NYT article:
Some have claimed that the Bacon Explosion is derivative. A writer known as the Headless Blogger posted a similar roll of sausage and bacon in mid-December. Mr. Chronister and Mr. Day do not claim to have invented the concept.
Looking into it further now. Bongomatic 00:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
And for some reason, an "anonymous" editor in what Geolocate says is Olathe, Kansas, keeps deleting this referenced section and adding multiple links to the BBQ Addicts blog.  I've added a single link to the external links section as it's a legitimate site for such a link from this article but it should not be repeatedly woven into the text of the article.  - Dravecky (talk) 21:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

While it is true that judgments of taste are subjective, it does not follow that critical reception of things that are evaluated by reference to taste are not encyclopedic. Reviews of all sorts of topics covered in this and other encyclopedias are noted in articles. Headless Blogger's opinion, however, would appear to be a COI. If a noted food critic or chef covers this dish, his/her subjective opinion would be notable and ought to be included. Bongomatic 21:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree. momoricks (make my day) 22:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bacon Explosion/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 05:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Nominator: ChrisGualtieri (talk)
Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 05:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

1: Well-written

a. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors: 
b. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists: 

2: Verifiable with no original research

a. Has an appropriate reference section:  Yes
b. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:  excellent (Thorough check on Google. Cross-checked with other GA)

c. No original research:   Done

3: Broad in its coverage

4: Neutral

5: Stable: No edit wars, etc:  Yes
6: Images  Done (Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license) & (Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license)

As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:

The lead needs to be rewritten. Significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the body.
Fix layout and WTW.
Is this link " http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/can-bacon-be-part-of-a-healthy-diet" relevant to the article scope?

This article is a very promising GA nominee. I’m glad to see your work here. All the best, --Seabuckthorn ♥ 09:45, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello! To address part of the second bullet (WTW), I changed the two instances of "noted" to "assessed" and "asserted," respectively. (Megatron Omega (talk) 06:55, 23 January 2014 (UTC))
I worked on the lead and hopefully resolved the issue by covering the preparation and focusing more less on the details of the awards. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 14:52, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Good.  --Seabuckthorn ♥ 17:01, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
OK, everything looks good now. Passing the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 17:01, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey @ChrisGualtieri:, is Bacon Explosion a proper noun? It's listed as both Bacon Explosion and bacon explosion in the article and should probably be one or the other for consistency's sake. Thanks for your thoughts, BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 19:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Yep, its a proper noun so has all been unified now. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

The claim that this is anything other than a purely American dish seems very dubious. I'm a 59 year old Brit interested in food and cooking, and I'd never heard of it before stumbling on this article. The Daily Telegraph article quoted in support of the international claim is of the "here's another crazy food that obese Americans eat" variety. I think the article needs better refs if the claim is to be sustained, and I suspect none exist. --Ef80 (talk) 18:00, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I've removed it as being an unsourced statement with no really viable sources located. Hopefully this changes in the future. — Huntster (t @ c) 18:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)