# Talk:1944 Atlantic hurricane season

It needs at least a one sentence description of every storm to be a start.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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From 1944 Great Atlantic hurricane: Sumner, H. C. (September 1944). Woolward, Edgar W. (ed.). "The North Atlantic Hurricane Of September 8–14, 1944" (PDF). Monthly Weather Review. 72 (9). Washington, D.C.: American Meteorological Society: 187–189. Bibcode:1944MWRv...72..187S. doi:10.1175/1520-0493(1944)072<0187:TNAHOS>2.0.CO;2. Retrieved June 19, 2015. 
From 1941 Atlantic hurricane season: Howard C. Sumner (1942). "North Atlantic Tropical Disturbances of 1941" (PDF). Weather Bureau. Retrieved November 6, 2009.
From 1945 Atlantic hurricane season: H.C. Sumner (April 16, 1946). Monthly Weather Review: North Atlantic Hurricanes and Tropical Disturbances of 1945 (PDF) (Report). National Hurricane Center. Retrieved May 4, 2017.
From 1926 Miami hurricane: Mitchell, Charles L. (October 1926). Henry, Alfred J.; Varney, Burton M. (eds.). "The West Indian Hurricane Of September 14–22, 1926" (PDF). Monthly Weather Review. 54 (10). American Meteorological Society: 409–414. Bibcode:1926MWRv...54..409M. doi:10.1175/1520-0493(1926)54<409:TWIHOS>2.0.CO;2. Retrieved January 1, 2015.
From 1943 Atlantic hurricane season: Howard C. Sumner (November 1943). Monthly Weather Review: North Atlantic Hurricanes and Tropical Disturbances of 1943 (PDF) (Report). Miami, Florida: National Hurricane Center. Retrieved May 8, 2017.
From 1939 Atlantic hurricane season: Jean Galleen (1939). "North Atlantic Tropical Disturbances of 1939" (PDF). Weather Bureau. Retrieved December 6, 2009.

Reference named "Meta":
From 1943 Atlantic hurricane season: "Documentation of Atlantic Tropical Cyclones Changes in HURDAT". Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory. Retrieved May 12, 2017.
From 1945 Atlantic hurricane season: Christopher W. Landsea; et al. Documentation of Atlantic Tropical Cyclones Changes in HURDAT (Report). National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Retrieved May 6, 2017. {{cite report}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |author= (help)

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Reviewer: Hurricane Noah (talk · contribs) 02:59, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 
Sorry, but I am forced to instantly fail this due to significant sourcing issues. There seems to be impact sourced by HURDAT which could not possibly be correct. There would have to be significant work done to find sources for damage/impact among other things before this should be brought back to GAN again. There also appear to be multiple storms missing impact details, including one that has an article detailing some of the impact. NoahTalk 02:59, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Editoneer (talk · contribs) 10:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


### Well-written, Broadness, Neutrality, Stability
upper-atmosphere data, I don't know what that means.  Done
I should clarify, more specifically, that it's talking about data from the upper-troposphere--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Can you explain shortly what a radiosonde in the article, even if you link it, I still didn't get a Simple English explanation.  Done
Hopefully I added a good enough explanation--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
delimit, can you replace that with "determine" or "predict"? Because it's not a common word.  Done
I think "describe" would be better--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
What is a meteorological final system?  Done
The last tropical cyclone recorded that year--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Now we need to specify shortly what a meteorological system is. Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
The strongest storm of the season was the Great Atlantic hurricane, which struck Long Island and New England, causing about $100 million (1944 USD), Did it struck only there?  Done
It did strike parts of Atlantic Canada after becoming extratropical--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
becoming extratropica, I didn't see this variation of "tropical" before. Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Oops, that was a typo--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Isthmus of Tehuantepec, is there a more simple english version of this?  Done
It is essentially the thinnest landmass of Mexico between the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean. I don't usually use names of place like that, but the source doesn't clarify which states of Mexico were involved. I thought about calling it either southern, southeastern, or southwestern Mexico, but I'm not sure which because there doesn't seem to be a good definition of each and some of those definitions don't include the entirety of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
The depressions aren't being counted because they aren't hurricanes, right? But why is one bar lengthy than the other?  Done
I assume you're talking about the graph in the Seasonal summary section. The bars just indicate the maximum intensity (their categories) of each tropical cyclones and the dates for which they existed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
rawinsonde is the same thing?  Done
Yes--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Tropical cyclogenesis, is the intensification of the hurricanes?  Done
Tropical cyclogenesis is the development of a tropical cyclone--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Hurricane One, is there a chance where you can write that those events occurred before you could put a human name onto a hurricane?  Done
I added a note in the lead explaining both the concept of numbering and nicknames--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
system, those system might be confused with something else rather than the hurricanes, anyways why are they called systems  Done
System is one of the terms used to refer to the tropical cyclones for the the purpose of having more variation. Saying the storm, hurricane, etc. would become repetitive, especially since names weren't assigned yet. I would argue that using system is acceptable, unless there are sentences where the wording might suggest its talking about something else--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
barometric pressure of 933 mbar (27.6 inHg), I don't understand what this means, so it's a pressure of winds but why is mercury involved and how can I judge how severe is from that?  Done
Added |lk=on --12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
frontal system, can this be explained? I still don't know what it means.  Done
I added a wikilink. It is a phrase used interchangeably with weather front--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
The season's activity was reflected with an accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) rating of 104 how does this works and you can reflect hurricanes away?  Done
In this context, it is actually another way of describing (reflecting) the amount of activity in the season--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
(Broadly speaking, this is editorializing and is not allowed on Wikipedia. Done
Changed to "In simplified terms"--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
MOS:EDITORIAL, won't that be the same thing? Remember, this isn't about using common words to untechnify pages. Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I decided to just delete that phrase--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
I suggest that we turn this into a tabel.  Done
I'm not sure what you're asking me to do here--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I was suggesting instead of having a prose and then inserting a file, you should just add those to the tabel, but it won't go well, so nevermind. Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
advisories, I don't get what that means in this context.  Done
I reworded that sentence because advisories weren't actually issued back then, at least not in their modern practice of releasing advisories every 6 hours--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Accordingly, editorializing.  Done
Is "thus" better?--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
reconnaissance missions, why is it called that way? Can't we replace it with a simpler term that explains this mission?  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
intercept, not commonly used.  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
attaining = keeping?  Not done
Attaining means to achieve, gain, or reach something. I think that's acceptable in this context--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
But is it understandable at the level of any reader? Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
by a larger extratropical low, I don't like how this is structured. a larger extratropical hurricane in the lower part of the southeast of Newfoundland?  Done
The source simply says "It was absorbed by a larger extratropical low around 06Z on the 20th." The last coordinate point on the track is where the former hurricane was last reported, which is to the southeast (offshore) of Newfoundland.--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
A tropical wave organized into a tropical storm, tropical wave in this context probable means the extratropical hurricane, it's not consistent and others might think it's something different.  Done
Is this concern related to the one just above? This is under the Tropical Storm Two section though. So it is a completely different cyclone--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
system existed farther east, put an "in"?  Not done
The system passed just south of Martinique., it's better if you don't add south. Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
degenerated, I feel deteriorate fits better for something that's not alive.  Done
Ok--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
that led to its demise, call a spade a spade, the word you're looking for is dissipating.  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
wind shear, what does that mean?  Done
I'm going to wikilink that--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Its remnants continued westward and were last noted north of Honduras the following day., hurricanes has "apprentices"? And the article keeps using noted but don't you mean reported?  Done
I use the word "noted" seven times in the article. Are you referring to a specific usage or all of them?--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm wondering what you're saying by "apprentices" and about "noted", I wonder if you mean "reported", because in some context those doesn't sound the same. Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I guess I will add "reported". The plural use of "remnants" and "were" is because after dissipating, the former tropical cyclone will often split into pieces, rather than remain one organized mass of convection--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
hurricane strength more strength been gained, or in the sense it upgrades into a hurricane?  Done?
The latter--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
peak winds, what does peak mean in this context?  Done
Peak winds refers to maximum sustained wind. I went through the article and fixed a few usages of that phrase in cases where I didn't think it was appropriate to say that--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Mid-Atlantic, mid shouldn't be capitalized.  Done
It is referring to the region of the United States. So it is a noun and should be capitalized--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
was last considered, considered is a prohibited word in this context and how far does this last go?  Not done
where many houses were unroofed, communication lines were toppled, glass windows were shattered, and hundreds of trees were uprooted., this makes it sound like they were like that before the storm.  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
toppled, replace with "fell"  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
—combined with waves perhaps as large as 30 ft (9 m)—, words of doubt. Doesn't a tide also create those storm surges?  Not done
unusually, unencyclopedic.  Not done
or otherwise swept, unencyclopedic. Are you sure those are in the citation?  Not done
foundations, people might not know that the bottom side of a building is called a foundation.  Done
Wikilinked to Foundation (engineering)
famed, unencyclopedic.  Done
Removed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
smashed to pieces, just say destroyed.  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
particularly hard hit, just say if it suffered a disastrous hit.  Not done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I meant it to be stylized with italic to not appear as biased. Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
fishing piers what are fishing piers?  Done
A pier mainly used for fishing--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
generally, without this word.  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
reaching 3–5 in (76–127 mm), what does this mean?  Done
An abbreviation of inches and millimeters. In the context of the whole sentence, 3-5 inches (76-127 millimeters) fell across eastern North Carolina--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Can you wikilink that "in" with "inches"? Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Done--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
in the wake of mass evacuations, without "in the wake of".  Done
Actually, I think a better substitution would be "due to", as mass evacuations usually led to fewer deaths--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
first noted as strong tropical storm east of Barbados, as a strong... in the east of Barbados.  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
The small storm, don't call it "small"  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
The potent hurricane, same problem.  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
grazed, destroyed.  Done
This is in reference to the storm's movement, not its impact--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
slightly weakened, no.  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
a second landfall south of, in south.  Done
"near" is probably more appropriate--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
but fell, downgraded.  Done
I'm gonna go with "weakened to" instead--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Once inland, replace with "then"  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
faulty dwellings, doesn't sound neutral.  Done
Replaced with "poorly-constructed"--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
The tone still remains the same, can you quote what it says in the citation and write the word in italics before dwellings? Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
So the source says "Small single or double roomed dwellings of light construction were either blown down or crushed by falling trees." I don't know if that needs italics, but I will add Framing (construction), which explains that the concept of light-frame construction--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
in some cases  Not done
every tree was toppled in coconut plantations, fell over the coconut plantations.  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
the nearby  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
at least, say the number straightforwardly.  Not done
coalescing, what does that mean?  Not done
Narrowly missing  Not done
a weak area  Not done
tail-end of a stationary front  Not done
The fledgling system  Not done
It lost character, dissipated  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I wonder how do they report those systems accurately?  Not done
inundated, technical  Not done
by early, saying the date is enough.  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Category 1, considering that the others doesn't mention this... what about this one? How did they know to categorize a hurricane?  Done
I think it might be better for me to mention that type of thing sparingly, as the Saffir–Simpson scale wasn't officially used until the 1970s. But I keep the Category 4 a few sentences later and add a mention of the Saffir–Simpson scale, as that's one category higher than the minimum for major hurricane status (Category 3 or higher)--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
he storm intensified, reaching major hurricane intensity early on September 12., I don't like this repetition.  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
curved, not moved?  Done
I use the word curved to indicated a change in direction of movement--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
At 17:00 UTC that day, where at 17:00 UTC  Done
Near the center of the hurricane (northeast of the Bahamas at the time)--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
observed a barometric pressure of 933 mbar (27.6 inHg), how does a ship observe the pressure?  Done
I think I should have clarified that the crew of the ship observed it, rather than the ship itself. The crew looks at an onboard barometer. Then they document it and report the measurements--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
in relation, we need to use the actual words instead of the expressions.  Done
I think "in association" might be better in that case--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Based on the pressure-wind relationship, same above.  Done
The pressure-wind relationship is the name of a scientific model. Here's a journal article about it from 2010--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
likely peaked, doubt.  Not done
fell, downgrade.
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
However, Landsea; et al. disputed this and calculated, editorializing, what is et all, we can see it been calculated and why is it disputed?  Done
Reworded. I explained later that it is disputed because it was measured at shorter interval and a height well above ground, which makes it unreflective of actual wind speeds on the ground--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
some degree of damage --> damage  Not done
Instead, the state likely experienced, "Instead" and "likely experienced"  Done
But in light of the 134 mph gust being disputed, the winds were estimated instead--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
experienced some of the worst impacts from the hurricane that experienced the most damages from the hurricane.  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
especially along the coast,  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
some degree of  Not done
above mean low tide at Providence., above mean? And can you add a "the" before "Providence", if that's a place?  Done?
Above the average low tide. Also, "the" is not added before "Providence" (the city). I could say "in Providence" or "at the city of Providence" if you want--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
At the city of Providence... maybe it's more clearer that way. Editoneer (talk) 07:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Done--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
overall  Not done
Aditionally  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
loss of life --> deaths  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
to the formation of another --> turned into a  Not done
while steadily  Not done
At least, don't add that.  Not done
schooner, what is a schooner?  Done
A schooner is a type of ship--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
in trees, don't you mean, on trees?  Not done
wrought, brought?  Not done
cold front, hm?  Not done
an approaching cold front prompted the beginning of extratropical transition., just merge this with the next phrase  Not done
broad area  Not done
developed adjacent to a dissipating warm front, in the paralel of this front?  Not done
congealed, congealed?  Not done
attained tropical storm status ---> turned into a tropical storm  Not done
corroborated --> confirmed  Done
They both basically mean the same thing, but I'll make the switch--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
The point is that those words should be reduced where the article uses common words, you won't be actively engaged in the article where instead of saying "troops" it says "auxiliary extra aid". Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
soon absorbed without soon.  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
many ship, ships?  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
short-lived, editorializing.  Not done
shortly after formation, without "shortly" and then put "after the formation"  Not done
presumably dissipating, with doubt, I won't presume that.  Not done
Alternatively,, editorializing.  Not done
in the absence --> without  Not done
may, unnoticed, I feel the actual source should be quoted here.  Not done
take shape --> formate  Not done
a frontal boundary, some type of wall?  Done
It's the same thing as a weather front/frontal system--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
steadily  Not done
it was designated a tropical as a  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
drifted --> moved  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
weas recorded in Seville, was  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
disturbance, storm?  Not done
How did they predict it went exactly on that meridian line?  Not done
significantly  Not done
intensified significantly during this period,, remove, we don't really need this narration.  Not done
unusually  Not done
diminished gradually --> weakened slowly  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
proved to be an important test, editorializing.  Not done
Squally conditions battered, uncommon words.  Not done
realized --> done  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
which stood as the strongest gust --> which is the strongest gust  Done
That doesn't make sense grammatically unless I say "was" instead of "is"--12george1 (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Nevermind "stood as" it's not an idiom. Editoneer (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Florida's citrus crop, crops  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
exacerbated, fancy words keep at bay.  Not done
Eastern Seaboard --> eastern coast  Not done
executing a short counter-clockwise motion, oh can you link how this phenomena is called?  Done
There's no special name for this. It would probably be much simpler for me to just say that the storm moved southwestward--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
In the presence --> while there was  Not done
, however, editorializing.  Not done
it is possible, well there's also the possibility it isn't. Doubty-doubt.  Not done
alternatively, they choose another path than the one that's usual?  Done
That word wasn't really even necessary--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
sparsity --> lack  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
well southwest, well?  Done
Done--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
likely occurred, what if it happened during that day? Press X for Doubt.  Not done
Atlantic Canad  Done
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
In simplified terms, please don't write this useless narration on an encyclopedia, just spit it out, it's not a blog.  Done
I decided to just delete that phrase--12george1 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Now wait a bit until I read the citations. Editoneer (talk) 15:54, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


### Verifiability
[3], I don't know how to read that.  Done
I assume you're talking about "Atlantic hurricane best track (HURDAT version 2)". This is the official source for information on the durations, paths, and intensity of tropical cyclones in the Atlantic basin. Each tropical cyclone in the record is listed in numerical order, followed by the year. For example, if you wanted to view information on Hurricane One in 1944, it is listed under "AL011944". Each line signifies a six-hour interval, though additional lines are sometimes added for a landfall (signified by an L in the third column). The first column has the dates, the second column is the time (in UTC), the third column is the status of that tropical cyclone: tropical depression (TD)/tropical storm (TS)/hurricane (H)/extratropical (EX), the fourth and fifth columns gives the coordinate points, and the sixth column lists the sustained wind speed (in knots). --12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
[1], the revised are the discovered ones?  Done
Actually, I think most of say revised. The discovered ones are like this: "1944 - Storm 12 (new) - 2013 Revision"--12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
[4], can you recite what it says from the book?  Done
I assume you're talking about Rappaport and Simpson. On page 49, the book quotes Grady Norton saying, "The first really large, fully developed hurricane for which Rawin [rawinsonde] data were available...was in October 1944, where we surprised ourselves by being able to predict the (cyclone's) movement right through a surface high pressure area..." Here's a snippet view from Google Books.--12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
[6], can't access it.  Done
I could've sworn that link was live when I nominated this article. Added an archive url--12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
[8], can you recite what it says from here?  Done
Are you talking about "Sumner, H. C. (November 1944)"? I think I had the same problem as with number 6. Found an archive url--12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
[15], can't open it.  Done
When I click the link, a PowerPoint Presentation is downloaded, which I am able to view--12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
[18], can you read what it says there?  Done
Usually we didn't add urls for those because they were only temporary, but now Wayback Machine has an instant archive feature, so I went ahead and made an archive link. Both statements cited by that source can be verified on page 59--12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
[17], can you translate for me?  Done
The sentence verifying the statement cited by [17] is "La racha medida fue de 262 km/h y fue un record sólo superado por la racha de 340 km/h del huracán Gustav en Paso Real de San Diego en el 2008 registrada con un instrumento igual." In English, the sentence says "The measured gust was 262 km/h and was a record only surpassed by the 340 km/h gust of Hurricane Gustav in Paso Real de San Diego in 2008 recorded with a similar instrument."--12george1 (talk) 05:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Now, good luck, I'm putting it onhold. Editoneer (talk) 16:43, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Oh hey, uh... can you fix the rest? We are close to get this article to GA standards, I'm also writing this message so we both don't forget about this article. Editoneer (talk) 07:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for working on this article! (Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Atlantic hurricane season good topic) 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

@Chicdat:, Thanks for thanking us, but can't you help Geogre with the article? He seems to be busy and I think it would be very great if I don't start declining articles because the deadline said so. Editoneer (talk) 16:24, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello there, I need to forcefully put it on the second opinion and not bear any burden on this article anymore. Editoneer (talk) 05:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


### Second Opinion by LightandDark2000
I will review this article as a second reviewer. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

@Editoneer and 12george1: Concerning most of the remaining, unaddressed word choice issues above, I believe that they are unnecessary. This is the English Wikipedia, not the Simple English Wikipedia or Vikidia, so the article doens't have to be easily understood by just about anyone. As long as the average reader can understand the article, then we are fine. Also, specific topics and technical terms should be linked or explained, but do not require a dumbing down beyond that or a wholesale removal. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Lead
The lead doesn't summarize the total deaths and damages from the season. Can you please include those as well?
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Each of the most significant storms should be mentioned. I think that "Hurricane Thirteen" is notable enough for a mention in the lead.
I did mention it in the lead "The Cuba–Florida hurricane devastated both regions, resulting in at least 318 fatalities and damage exceeding $100 million."--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Systems
06:00 UTC Link "UTC" to Coordinated Universal Time.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
further strengthening into the season's first hurricane around Link "hurricane" to Saffir–Simpson scale#Category 1.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
there were few ship and land observations, however, it is possible the storm became a hurricane, Change "observations, however," to "observations; however,". This is a comma-splice error.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
course parallel to the Bahamas, Link "Bahamas" to The Bahamas.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Damage reached $2 million. You should specific that this is in 1944 USD. A (1944 USD) tag should suffice.
I had already included a note to the first time I mentioned a monetary value (in the lead section). Should I do that again here?--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
there were a few with serious injuries. Change to "there were a few people who suffered serious injuries". The current wording sounds a little vague.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
the system organized into the season's first major hurricane You should specify that the storm was a Category 3 storm. So, change "major hurricane" to "Category 3 major hurricane", with the link for Category 3.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Trekking through the Caribbean Sea, coalescing into a tropical depression about 115 mi (185 km) east Change "coalescing into" to "the system coalesced into". The current phrasing doesn't really make grammatical sense.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
On September 8, a weak area of low pressure developed along the Link "area of low pressure" to low-pressure area.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Already at tropical storm intensity, the system strengthened into a about 24 hours later as it tracked west-northwestward. This is from the "Hurricane Seven" section. Umm...What?!? What did the storm strengthen into?? I presume this refers to a Category 1 hurricane, right? This needs to be fixed.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Instead, the state likely experienced sustained winds up to Category 2 intensity. Does the source specify the wind speeds experienced? If so, it should be provided.
No, that's just an estimate by Landsea because he concluded that the 134 mph (216 km/h) sustained wind speed wasn't recorded properly and thus representative of the conditions experienced in eastern Virginia. It appears the highest reliably measured wind speed in Virginia was a gust of 90 mph (which is only Cat 1) in Norfolk--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
At least two people drowned offshore Campeche when a 100 ton (91,000 kg)-schooner sank. Add a comma after "Campeche".
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
formed early on September 21 via a tropical wave Add a comma after "September 21".
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
The hurricane became extratropical on September 26 well south of Newfoundland. Add a comma after "September 26".
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
confirmed by a nearby ship report. Change "confirmed by" to "which was confirmed by".
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
around 06:00 UTC on September 30 as indicated by many ships and land observations. Add a comma after September 30.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
ahead of an approaching trough Link "trough" to trough (meteorology).
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
and then resumed an accelerated northward heading near the 83rd meridian west Change "northward heading" to "northward motion". The current wording can be confusing to a good number of readers.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
but was unusually large given its location. Add a comma after "large". Also, can you please provide a brief explanation as to why the storm was unusually large? (E.g. Are most storms in that area usually smaller, what conditions keep the storms from getting that big most of the time, etc.?)
The source does say it was unusually large. However, upon further examination, it doesn't seem to indicate it was large specifically due to its location (possibly more so being unusually large in general). There wasn't a meteorological explanation for how it got to be that large. But I did add how far strong winds extended from the center--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
late on October 18 before striking Sarasota, Florida, Add a comma after "October 18".
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
The storm's weakened slowly over the Florida peninsula, There are two errors here. Change "storm's" to "storm". This looks like a typo to me. Also, change "Florida peninsula" to "Florida Peninsula".
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Link "squally" to squall.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Link "Grand Cayman" to Grand Cayman.
I already linked that in the first paragraph of that section--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
were never done. Maybe change this to "were never compiled."
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
which stood as the strongest gust measured in the country until 2008. Was the storm that caused this another storm, one with an article on Wikipedia? If so, "until 2008" should be linked to that storm's page, especially if the said storm was a hurricane. I am not 100% certain, but I have a feeling that the storm responsible was Hurricane Ike.
That was Hurricane Gustav--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Tropical depressions
though this might be due to lack of observations. Change "due to lack of" to "due to a lack of".
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
After entering the Atlantic, The entire basin can be considered to be in the Atlantic. You should change "the Atlantic" to "the open Atlantic" to differentiate.
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
into a subtropical depression on October 20 Add a comma after "October 20".
Done--12george1 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Season effects (missing)
This is a serious issue that must be corrected. A complete "Season effects" table should be compiled for every storm in this season, with citations as necessary, similar to the season effects tables in 1943 Atlantic hurricane season and 1945 Atlantic hurricane season. Unless this table is added, I don't think that this article will be ready for a GA promotion.
This is all the issues that I have found. While the article is pretty well-written, there are a handful of issues that still need to be addressed, including a serious issue in the prose for "Hurricane Seven's" section and also the absence of the usual Season effects table. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh greetings, I'm typing here because I feel I should write where the relevancy should be met. Thank you for taking over that fast and being careful with the review, if you wish to give me any advice on GAR so I don't mess other things in the future, it's gladly appreciated as long as you don't write a nastygram, thank you for existing. Editoneer (talk) 20:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
@12george1: Very good. We just need a season effects section with the table for the storms, and then this article should be good to go. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 18:05, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
@LightandDark2000: I am finished with the season effects table--12george1 (talk) 04:41, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Excellent! The article should be ready now. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 04:52, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


### Final
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism): 
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
Overall:
Pass/Fail: 
With the revisions that have been made, I am going to  Pass this article. Congratulations on yet another GA! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 04:52, 2 April 2021 (UTC)