# Talk:2010–11 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season

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Hello, i am quickly going into the matter. should we only use RSMC data in the Timeline section instead of including both rmsc and jtwc that makes it look more ugly.

--Anirudh EmaniSay something 14:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
No - we should be putting both JTWC and RSMC La Reunion into the section, for the image itself though we just use Reunion info since their the bosses of this basin. If you need a hint on how to work it see some of the timelines for the SPAC and copy the style.Jason Rees (talk) 14:47, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I think that Bingiza needs a article.70.125.46.63 (talk)

You can go ahead and make one if you create an account. Just be sure it has more info than what's in the season article. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  15:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
I created a account but I don't know how to make a article yet. Can you make one? 39.tg

See WP:FIRST. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  16:47, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Crate a sandbox, but dont publish until the storm dissipates.--Anirudh Emani (talk) 04:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
I created a sandbox, somebody deleted it this morning. 39.tg (talk) February 15 2011

Just so I know, is this one of the least active southwest indian 
ocean seasons in the 2000-2011 years? 39.tg (talk) February 22 2011

Yeah it looks like its gonna be one of the least active since 1969-70.Jason Rees (talk) 18:50, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Probably record inactivity(if not near-record inactivity) now that the season is over. Only 3 named storms, 2 storms of hurricane strength and one cat. 3. I can't really find any other SWIO season to rival it; the JTWC best track is here, and I can't really find another season to compare with the activity of this one; the closest one I found is 1961, when just 5 storms formed. Rye998 (talk) 21:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
FYI its 4 named storms (NS) for this season as STD 9 had winds of 55 knots but Madagascar refused to name it as it was not threatening Madagascar or any land. Anyway I can not tell you if this is the record as i dont know but using Reunions records, i have managed to find two seasons very close to this one 2005-06 and 1998-99. Both of which had 6 NS though they seem to have a few more other systems. I am gonna try and compile a list of TCJason Rees (talk) 21:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I was counting only Abele, Bingiza, and Cherono. Even so, that subtropical storm wasn't even active for more than two days. It may have briefly been the equivalent of a NS, but not for one as long as Cherono at least... And 2005-06 got to Elia(one TS found in post-analysis); this season got to 4 storms(including the subtropical), 2000-2001 had up to the "E" name and one subtropical hurricane, and 1998-1999 had 5 named storms as well(including Frederic-Evrina), and an unnamed TS numbered F1 (formerly Hamismh). Rye998 (talk) 23:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Official RSMC data have it has the least active season since 1948-1949, when only 2 "named" storms formed. Of course, problems with completeness of the dataset must be taken into account at that point, but a handful of seasons prior to 1950 are listed as having only 1 or 2 named storms (data records go as far back as 1847 or so (haven't checked in a while)). WindRunner (talk) 16:36, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
What about when actual naming occurred? If that begin in the 60's or so (assuming when everyone else in the world began naming), then it would actually be the season with the fewest named storms. Alternatively, if we can find a source along the EPAC, saying "since reliable record keeping began in 1966" (or so), that would be good. I think most ideal would be some official source saying it was actually the least active season. Currently it is missing that. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  16:23, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Part of the problem is simply deciding what to term "reliable." Best track data quality starts declining as early as 1987-1988 season here in the SWIO, with intensity data points beginning to go missing. On the other hand, the basin didn't have a geostationary satellite until the early-mid 1990s (perhaps 1993-ish?)...so what could be considered the start of "reliable" records? But yes, an official source (JTWC might have to do here, although that's a good 8-12 months off) would be perfect... WindRunner (talk) 16:36, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
I was hoping more ideally something from WMO or MF, but yea, something like that. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  16:40, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
M-F is less than amazing when it comes to publicizing "big" events like this, as I'm sure people around here have noticed. Can hope for something in post-season analysis, though. WindRunner (talk) 16:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 In its ATCR for 1998-99, RSMC La Reunion tells us that the 1998-99 season was the 4th least active season since 1969 behind the 82-83, 86-87 and 97-98 seasons (nb: Page 4). So i went back and briefly analyzed those seasons using Reunions best track records. Comparing them to this season just gone where Reunion says we had 4 Storms, tells me that depending on your POV the 2010-11 season was tied with the 82-83 & 86-87 season for the least active season since 1969. The reason that it depends on your point of view is because Reunion have not factored into account, Naomi which occurred in the Australian region when it extended out to 80E and since we must be fair when assessing the record we either have to omit Abele or we have to permit Naomi since Abele was always between 80-90E while in this basin.Jason Rees (talk) 23:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:2010–11 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Cyclonebiskit (talk · contribs) 19:01, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Dropping a note that I'll be reviewing this article. Standard disclaimer that this review will be part of the WikiCup. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 19:01, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Lede
The first of these systems developed on October 25, 2010, which had its origins from the neighboring Australian basin. – The second half of this is not supported by the reference provided later on in the article. Might be a bit nitpicky, but the source centers it at 86.6E, within the SWIO.
Weird, brain fart. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  20:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Bingiza was also the only storm to affect land, causing heavy damage and 34 fatalities across Madagascar. – TD 03 also affected Madagascar and Cherono impacted Rodrigues (as stated in the following sentence). Maybe change to specify that Bingiza was the only storm to cause significant damage or loss of life?
I changed it to "Severe effects on land". That work? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  20:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Works for me ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 20:58, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Season summary
This section feels out of order, it goes from a general season summary to who monitors the basin and then to pre-season forecasts. The second para might be more useful in the lede but not sure what to do with the other two.
I changed the name of the section to "Season forecast and summary", and moved the third paragraph to be the first. I think the order makes more sense now. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  20:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
First three sentences of the first para are quite repetitive: "[feature] caused [thing]" for all of them.
Better? I changed one. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  20:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
...although there was also a subtropical cyclone that could have been named. – MFR doesn't name subtropical cyclones, but see what's being inferred here. Need to tweak this to indicate that it's just gale-force.
I think they do name subtropical cyclones though. Dando in the following season was a named subtropical depression, and Joul in 2010 was a named SC. I added the gale-force bit though. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  20:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I guess that was a thing, yeah :P ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 20:58, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
In terms of total days in which cyclones were active, the season was slightly behind the 1982–83 season, thus making the 2010–11 season the second-quietest on record – How could it be behind in activity, yet more active at the same time?
2010-11 had shorter-lived storms. I think... ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  20:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Storms
I've restored the sections for 01 & 03 since there was enough info to support it.
It looks good. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  20:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Abele
The JTWC assessed slightly higher 1 minute winds of 150 km/h (90 mph). – Technically this is the same value as MFR when you convert 10-min to 1-min.
Interesting. I removed the "slightly higher" bit then. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  20:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Cherono
...and slightly higher 1 minute winds of 85 km/h (50 mph) according to the JTWC. – Same thing as Abele
Ditto. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  20:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Placing the article on hold to allow time to handle the comments. Overall issues are relatively small and this should be a quick fix. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 19:29, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Looks good now, passing. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 20:58, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

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