# Talk:Benny Lefebvre

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 02:29, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 02:29, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
The image is appropriately tagged and has a decent FUR.  Sources are reliable.

The article is only 1,170 words, and about 10-15% of them are quotes.  There are about twenty quotes, many of which could be paraphrased quite easily.  This is overquoting; I think the quotes need to be significantly reduced before I can pass this as a GA.
-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 02:51, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Could you show me what quotes you think need to be removed/rephrased? Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
It's not any particular quote, it's the total number and size of them.  Any one of the quotes would be fine if it were the only one you used.  I think you should cut out more than half of the quotes you have, both by number of quotes and number of words, but it doesn't matter particularly which ones you pick. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 16:36, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
I now count 10 sentences with quotes. Is that low enough or do you want me to trim the quotes further? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:41, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
That's much better; thanks.  I'll read through again now. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 16:44, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Looks good; passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 17:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

BeanieFan11, I realized after I promoted this to GA that I hadn't done any spotchecks.  I just did a couple:

FN 24 cites "In 1940, Lefebvre briefly played at the three-quarters position in rugby union for the Los Angeles Spoilers (also known as the Spoilers Athletic Club)": the source doesn't give the alternative name for the club, so I would cut that or source it separately.
FN 37 cites "In 1955, Lefebvre was named head football coach at Pius X High School in Downey, California": this doesn't say where the school is.  That would be OK if we had an article on the school we could link to; as it is I think it has to be cited.
FN 27 cites "Lefebvre returned to the Spoilers football team in 1941, and was described as a triple-threat player by the Southwest Topics-Wave": this doesn't say that it was 1941 when Lefebvre returned to the team.
FN 32 cites "He had previously served as head coach of the Spoilers in 1946": verified.
FN 19 cites "In 1936, Lefebvre played for the independent Hollywood Stars, coached by Clark DeGroot": verified.
FN 6 cites "He also scored a touchdown in a 45–0 win over the Riverside Athletic Club": verified.
FN 36 cites "He also served as playground supervisor at Rancho Cienega Playground in Los Angeles." Verified.
Minor issues with the first three; can you fix these? Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 14:58, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: Added ref for the first. For the second, the link in the article is to "Pius X High School (Downey, California)," so I don't think a ref is necessary (although I am sure I could find one if required verifying the school being in Downey). Rewrote the third. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:14, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Looks good, thanks for the fixes.  For the high school I was looking at the tool output and didn't realize there was a link, so you're right that's fine. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 16:20, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

I can guess that one of the sons is Jim Lefebvre who I remember played major league baseball. But although the lead of the article refers to the brothers and sons, not one of them is named. Wastrel Way (talk) Eric Wastrel Way (talk) 13:40, 11 September 2022 (UTC)