# Talk:2004 Istanbul NATO summit

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It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):  b (MoS): 
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
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It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
a (fair representation):  b (all significant views): 
It is stable.

It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
a (tagged and captioned):  b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales): 
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a Pass/Fail: 

Comments: There are some copyedits that would be great. I shall list these in the next couple of days, as possible. Else, the GA nom can submit the article for copyedit. --Kalyan 12:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you the review, Kalyan. I look forward to your additional comments, but as I'm in the middle of exams, I won't be able to address them for another month. If this would be a problem, I will submit the article for a copyedit. (Where can I do that?). Sijo Ripa 13:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. The article has a good amount of references, but there are still some facts that could need additional inline citations for verification (including a direct quote). I've tagged a couple of them. Lampman (talk) 16:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

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Kavakdere Either you have misunderstood what the lead of the article says, or you have not been able to express what you mean. Or possibly both.
The lead describes a shift in the NATO strategy from being a Cold War alliance directed against Soviet to becoming an alliance with a more global agenda, often called the "out-of-area strategy". If you think that this strategy shift in some way did not include Turkey, that is a rather extraordinary claim that would have to be sourced. I think that will be difficult.
Your addition is confusing. Besides claiming that the shift "did not involve Turkey", you also have formulated the sentence so that is actually says that Turkey is/was a Soviet agressor. That does not make sense in English unless you see Turkey as an agressor. At least in this context that is also an extraordinary claim.
Then some comments on how Wikipedia works. We do not comment on or try to "explain" the sourced info that exists in the article. That will be seen as editorializing or original research, which is not allowed in Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is a community project based on consensus among editors. When you make an edit that is reverted, the next step is not to repeat the same edit, but to start a discussion in the article's talk page in order to create a consensus. Please read WP:BRD. Regards! --T*U (talk) 08:28, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I am sorry but the summits were in fact for a shift yes. But including Turkey in that shift makes no sense? How is it when Turkey joined the  Alliance in 1952, and has been a Democratic state since its founding, not a satellite state of the USSR? Turkey was part of the western nations against Communism and this shift was to stop that and include the new post communist countries. So the shift was to aim to the east (Eastern Post Communist Europe) and not for Turkey? How is that not clear???  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kavakdere (talk • contribs) 15:38, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Please learn how to indent your comments, and remember to sign your talk page entries!
You are misunderstanding. The shift that is mentioned in the lead, has nothing to do with the membership of the former East bloc states. This is about a shift (or a change) in the policy of the alliance; from "a Cold War alliance against Soviet aggression" to a "coalition against new and out-of-area security threats". All the members of the alliance, old and new, were part of that shift.  --T*U (talk) 16:09, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

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