# Talk:Abergil crime family

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.
Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct: 
In the Drug trafficking section, "The Abergils", you need to explain who the Abergils are, this is for your reader who reads this article. Same section, "According to the LA Times", "according" seems to sound odd, maybe if the sentence was re-worded.
Done - rephrased --Flewis(talk) 07:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Check. Also, the lead seems to be short and it may be a good idea to expand it a little more, per here. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I've expanded and added in extra info into the prose. Does the lead specifically require any more work? --Flewis(talk) 01:58, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Nope, that'll do fine. Check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:54, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation: 
In the lead, it would be best if "Israel" was linked once, per here. In the Drug trafficking section, the quote is not supposed to be italicized, per here. Same section, "LA Times" needs to be changed to "Los Angeles Times" and italicize it, since its a newspaper and per here. The article tends to have "red links", if they don't have articles, it would be best to un-link them, per here.
Done --Flewis(talk) 07:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Half-check. You forgot the quote. Also, dates need to be unlinked, per here and in the Murders and assassinations section, "Murder" is linked twice, link it once and if there are any more links that are linked twice, please, unlink them. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay. . .done--Flewis(talk) 01:58, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:54, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline: 
References should come after the parentheses.
Done --Flewis(talk) 07:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose): 

C. It contains no original research: 

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism: 

Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic: 

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style): 

Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each: 

Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute: 

Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content: 

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions: 
Are there any free-use images available for the article?
Nope, the original pic's that were uploaded seem to have been deleted for incorrect licensing. The only way to get images for this article would be to upload them under a {non-free} license. --Flewis(talk) 07:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Overall:
Pass or Fail: 
If the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!
--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you to Flewis for getting the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:54, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://mad.walla.co.il/w/18-200/197686-18.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mahalo.com/Itzhak_Abergil&usg=__dwJAC12uLIU-XgjbhsZsqGnmGoM=&h=150&w=200&sz=10&hl=en&start=1&sig2=xm_ZzNvE_F5zlgeOzwh89g&um=1&tbnid=PUB1ijkJMTRB9M:&tbnh=78&tbnw=104&ei=6ieSSevdC6W-MayC0eAL&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ditzhak%2Babergil%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewikimaster94 (talk • contribs) 01:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC) 
I wonder if its necessary to explicitly show the faces of the policemen on these pictures. Nobody derives any information needed by that. Their faces should be blurred out to protect their families and stuff or at least their privacy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:D78:35C0:3C05:6E44:6E02:E92C (talk) 22:31, 31 March 2020 (UTC) 

Hello, some IPs are adding origins of the Abergils, either Moroccan or Mizrahi without giving any sources. I'm going to revert that as long as there is no reliable source given. Ajnem (talk) 17:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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I have just reverted an undiscussed page move made in 2023 that moved this article from Abergil crime family to Abergil Organization because the article was moved without any explanation or discussion to explain why "crime family" should change to "Organisation". No sources have been provided to support this name change. The existing source #1 in this article uses the expression: "so-called "crime family"", so that name has at least one source. Also the previous move proposal supports this naming. Additionally, MOS:AT advised that the word "organisation" is in lower case because does not appear to be part of a proper name for this criminal group. Unlike many organizations, most criminal groups are not formally registered with a business name, and they might not even have a name, just an understanding between criminals. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 08:04, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

It has been a while since this article has been reviewed, so I took a look and noticed the following:

The lead is quite large, especially for such a short article.
The "Case 512" section is completely uncited.
Should this article go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I agree that the article may need a review. Mooonswimmer 21:07, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
@Mooonswimmer: Would you like to bring this to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 12:31, 2 July 2025 (UTC)


### Abergil crime family
Hello, I am Hai Waknine, the individual mentioned in this article. The section that states my “description of loans and extortion practices was expected to help convict Itzhak and Meir Abergil” is sourced only to a single Haaretz article from 2011. That source uses speculative language (“expected to”), which is not a factual finding.
Under Wikipedia’s Biographies of Living Persons policy (WP:BLP), speculation or opinion must not be presented as fact. This sentence is defamatory, harmful, and violates BLP standards.
I request that it be removed or replaced with a neutral, factual version that only includes verifiable details (e.g., the plea bargain, sentence, and supervised release) without speculation.
Proposed replacement text:
“In January 2011, he signed a plea bargain in the United States, pleading guilty to money laundering. He was sentenced to 57 months in prison (time already served) and an additional three years of supervised release.” Historyedits67 (talk) 13:18, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

The speculative language has been removed. Mooonswimmer 03:54, 2 October 2025 (UTC)