# Talk:Battle of Fort Ében-Émael

Greetings, reviewer! Thanks for taking the time to review this article. I thought I'd cover a few points that you might come across whilst reviewing the article and explain myself.

The references aren't combined. Whilst I'm good at a fair few things on wiki, combining the references just isn't one of them. I just can't get it right however much I try, as shown by the history of this article!
There are no numbers for Belgian casualties inflicted at all three bridges. This is because none of the sources I've found give any detail of Belgian casualties for anywhere but Eben-Emael, and I think I've accessed all the sources I can. Some of them can't even agree on the number of men in the garrison of the Fort, which might suggest why they're so vague on casualties.
The same for the aftermath of the Fort. Presumably because the Germans were the victors, and it isn't a major airborne assault anyway, none of the sources give any details on the Fort post-assault, and believe me, I've looked.
I think that's about it, although I'll add more if I think of any. Thanks again! Skinny87 (talk) 19:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I had read about this battle and after-action reports prior to my several visits to the site.  In 1984, I attempted to see the site on several occasions; but was dismayed when I found the area around the Fort as well as the Fort itself was in the process of being leveled for a shopping area and new homes.  Most people around the area of Liege could only tell me what I may be looking for was 'the mountain'.  Their only advice was drive toward the mountain.  In all actuality it was steep granite hill with high precipices on the canal side.  But it is the tallest piece of real estate for miles around.  There were barriers all around due to demolition and construction, a new bridge was being built to the area...everything else was mud and rock.
Fortunately, cooler heads and minds must have prevailed (I think the Belgiums learned their intended plan was not viable, so destruction ceased) for when I revisited the site about 15 years later...it was a full-blown tourist site complete with a history club bent on restoration and tours.  However, I believe I am one of the few Americans to visit the site.  The tour I took was in Dutch (given to an aging group of French visitors (luckily they had tour director who could translate to Flemish and English).
I have also visited the Maginot Line Forts and noticed several differences in the construction and overall attitude of the use of these forts.  French Maginot forts were designed to be self-sufficient and interactive during war.  That is...they each had their own water, electrical, and communication service within the individual forts; as well as each fort mutually supported the other.  The total crew for each fort was housed inside during their tour of duty.  Eben-Emael was a stand-alone fort designed to protect 3 key bridges across the river (and destroy them if necessary).  The bulk of the personnel maining the fort stayed at the local town located about 1 kilometer away.  Electricity was provided by the local utilites with one overhead wire going into the fort.  Water came from a well outside the fort; and communication was thru the local switchboard (no radios).  So I could see how little more than a platoon of German glider troops could surprise the cadre, force them to lockdown the fort, then methodically knock out the electricity and communications...leaving the men in the fort without light or power...and only hearing the Germans on the phone telling them they were surrounded and hopelessly outnumbered.
A few after-action reports are necessary to clarify the speed and success of the German troops.  Prior to action, the Germans were extremely concerned about the area of the fort.  Their intelligence learned there was no 'asparagas' on the grassy field making up the top of the fort to destroy gliders as they attempted to land.  Their next concern was whether they had 'mined' that same area to prevent anyone using it as an access.  They learned every Saturday the men assigned to the fort played football (soccer)on that same field (so no mines).  Now, what about those 'hollow charges'?  I learned that they didn't work the way you are lead to believe.  Most damage was done with at least several charges...and most created more noise and 'flaking' than actually blowing a hole thru the cupolas.  But they were the 'biggest bang' the glider troops could deliver and the troops inside wouldn't have any idea.  The most damage was done at one door site, but again with multiple munitions.  Speed and surprise was the key ingredient as the Belgiums' believed their own press about how strong the fort was.Jermizzou (talk) 19:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)jermizzou

Despite living in that area for quite a while, I never got around to going to the Fort. Perhaps one day I will. Red4tribe (talk) 21:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

The German 6. Armee under the command of  Walther von Reichenau approaching from the line Aachen-Venlo, had the order to quickly cross the Maas, breaching the Belgian defenses, with the general direction of Tienen. The German forces intended to bind the Allied forces in central Belgium and at the same time divert the Allies from the main German thrust for Sedan-Abbeville.
The left side of the German force roughly coincided with the southern boarder of Limburg. The plans for Eben Emael and vicinity were devised by Adolf Hitler. The German's committed to this attack: 

Bataillon z.b.V. 100
Assault Detachment Koch (German language: Sturmabteilung Koch) from the 7 Fliegerdivision
Infanterie-Regiment 151, augmented by Pionierbataillon 51 (Oberstleutnant Hans Mikosch)
4. Panzer-Division
Elements of VIII Fliegerkorps
The respective orders were:

Taking the three bridges at Maastricht
Taking the bridges at Veldwezelt, Vroenhoven and Kanne as well as eliminating fortress Eben-Emael
To relieve the troops at Eben-Emael and taking the fortress
Establishing bridgeheads at Veldwezelt, Vroenhoven and Kanne
Achieving aerial superiority


#### Order 1: Taking the three bridges at Maastricht
Bataillon z.b.V. 100 was tasked with taking the bridges at Maastricht, largely because the objective could not be reached by paratroopers or transport gliders.
The plan was comprised of three phases:

Soldiers disguised as civilians were already in Maastricht on 8 May 1940 or arrived on 9 May. They received bicycles in Voerendal and were ordered to Maastricht to sabotage the self-destruction charges on the bridges.
Sonderverband Hocke: Soldiers in uniforms of the Netherlands Military Police were to cross the boarder at Sittard heading for Maastricht on the night of 9/10 May. Riding on motorcycles they were tasked with the same objective, stepping in if the first group failed.
A fast armored unit was to head for Maastricht, parallel to the other German divisions. The objective was to take the bridges and halt behind Geleen-Gulpen-Epen.
The 4. Panzer-Division was expected to arrive at Maastricht by 10.00 o'clock.


#### Order 2: The Bridges at Veldwezelt, Vroenhoven, Kanne and fortress Eben-Emael
The objectives could not be reached by conventional means in consideration of the Belgian preparations. This included traditional weapons as well as paratroopers. The Germans therefore considered a new method, transport gliders, a new weapon, Shaped charges and a plan executed under the element of surprise and under total secrecy. 
Adolf Hitler ordered Generalmajor Kurt Student to the Reichs Chancellery in Berlin on 27 October 1939. Student is tasked to take position to the following objectives:

The 7 Fliegerdivision and the 22. Luftlandedivision under the command of Student are to take the Belgian Reduit national holding out until relieved by the Heer.
A further Fallschirm-unit was to take Fortress Eben-Emael and the bridges across the Albert Canal as well as the Maas bridges at Maastricht, thus enabling the rapid crossing of the Maas and Albert Canal.
A few days later Student responded that the objective can be achieved.
Taking the bridges was the highest priority for the Germans. For that reason the leader of the Sturmabteilung, Hauptmann Koch, was a member of the group targeted for Vroenhoven. Eben-Emael was given secondary priority.
In preparation they had practiced assaulting a full-scale mock up of the fort's exterior in occupied Czechoslovakia using the recently built and captured Beneš Wall that was modeled to a large degree on Allied designs.  Here they tested the theory and use of Shaped charge explosives with associated combat training.  The Germans also decided on using Military gliders (supposedly Hitler's idea) as the best way to drop troops pin point on the fortress with the weapons and explosives.


##### Order of battle and code names
#### Order 3: Relieving the troops at Eben-Emael and taking the fortress
Infanterie-Regiment 151 augmented by the Pionierbataillon 51 were to form the spearhead of the 4. Panzer-Division and was to swerve south from Maastricht, passing though the Jeker valley to Kanne and targeting for Eben-Emael. Requested was the unconditional and ruthless strive for Eben-Emael. Orders were to take the fortress by 10:30 because the Luftwaffe would not be able to render support from then on.
The order for recklessness was not directed towards the enemy but rather meant for the German troops and own casualties.


#### Order 4: Establishing bridheads at Veldwezelt, Vroenhoven and Kanne
It was expected that the bridgeheads were established by 10.00 o'clock.


### The Bridges at Maastricht
The soldiers dressed as civilians failed to sabotage the destructive charges. The Sonderverband Hocke was detected and delayed by Belgian defences at Borgharen and Heer. The motorized detachment from Sittard breached the defenses at Rothem but was stopped at Wijck, just in sight of the bridges. The bridges were blown up at 8.00 am delaying the entire campaign by 24 hours.

Early in the morning of the 10 May, the Luftwaffe unit 17./KGrzbVof Luftlandegeschwader 1 and its Junkers Ju 52 transports delivered the German paratroop infantry to their target. Under the command of Sturmabteilung Koch, the three German battlegroups, Gruppen Eisen, Beton and Stahl, quickly seized the three bridges, the Kanne, Vroenhoven, and Veldwezelt. The Belgian defenders were confused by 400 German dummy paratroops, dropped to confuse the defenders further. The Luftwaffe also assisted the assault teams in the initial attack. Lehrgeschwader 2's unit, II.(Schl)./LG 2, with Henschel Hs 123s, hindered Belgian attempts to counter the German attack or reinforce its positions.
Sturzkampfgeschwader 2's Junkers Ju 87s also delivered effective attacks against the nearby town of Lanaeken, destroying the Headquarters of the Belgian defence forces and preventing the order to demolish the bridges, in the event of a surprise German assault, from reaching the Belgian engineers. As a result just one bridge was successfully blown up.

Die Wehrmachtberichte 1939-1945 Band 1, 1. September 1939 bis 31. Dezember 1941 (in German). München: Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag GmbH & Co. KG, 1985. ISBN 3-423-05944-3.

Knight's Cross awarded

Oberleutnant Gustav Altmann on 12 May 1940 as commander of the Assault Group Stahl
Leutnant Egon Delica on 12 May 1940 as deputy commander of Assault Group Granit
Oberarzt Dr. Rolf Karl Ernst Jäger on 15 May 1940 for his life saving actions in Assault Group Beton
Hauptmann Walter Koch on 10 May 1940 as commander of the Koch Parachute Assault Battalion
Leutnant Joachim Meissner on 12 May 1940 as acting commander of the Assault Group Eisen
Leutnant Helmut Ringler on 15 May 1940 as leader of a heavy-machine-gun demi-platoon in the Assault Group Stahl
Leutnant Gerhard Schacht on 12 May 1940 as a platoon leader in the Assault Group Beton
Leutnant Martin Schächter on 12 May 1940 as commander of Assault Group Eisen
Oberleutnant Rudolf Witzig on 10 May 1940 as commander of the Assault Group Granit
Oberleutnant Otto Zierach on 15 May 1940 as glider pilot in the Koch Parachute Assault Battalion

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Well written—
It passes, but just so that this review doesn't seem empty, I'll give a few suggestions:

So that it doesn't send the reader to a re-direct, I suggest wikilinking Fall Gelb to Battle of France, as in [[Battle of France|Fall Gelb]].
I think "Dyle river" is preferred over "River Dyle", and you could probably wikilink it.  It might allow the reader to gain a better idea of what the geography of the relevant area looks likes.
Numbers at the beginning of sentences should be spelled out.
Factually accurate and verifiable—
This, of course, is passed.
Broad in coverage—
Obviously, yes.
Neutrality, stability and images
Pass, pass, pass!
The article passes the GA review.  If you have any questions, you know I'll be around to answer them!  Good luck! JonCatalán(Talk) 19:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Someone has just helpfully added an authorlink to the source cited and, having read it, I'm rather concerned that it isn't an anything like a WP:RS. From a quick read of his article, it seems clear that his writings are somewhere between pulp-fiction and neo-Nazi propaganda, both of which are rather damaging. Fortunately his book is only cited once on the article anyway and, because of the above, I have deleted the reference. —Brigade Piron (talk) 09:23, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

The caption for this picture seems to be wrong: the German troops in the picture are certainly no paratroopers: their uniforms, boots, helmets and kit point to them being regular infantry/panzergrenadiere. Starting from the original caption (Bundesarchiv) "An der Brücke über den Albert-Canal, südlich Veldwezelt. Im Pfeiler der Brücke ist [ein] Bunker eingebaut, aus dem ca. 30 Gefangene geholt werden." I would suggest the abbreviated caption "Belgians surrender to German troops at a bridge crossing the Albert Canal near Veldwezelt". Objections? 213.61.58.164 (talk) 14:51, 18 May 2016 (UTC)kookee
The date given in the image description (may 11th, 10:00 a.m.) supports the assumption that these are german follow-up formations, having relieved the paratroopers and conducting "mopping-up" operations. 213.61.58.164 (talk) 09:28, 19 May 2016 (UTC) kookee
Link to "Luftlande-Sturmregiment" (That makes no sense anymore and which I had deleted) keeps reverting again. Help needed. 213.61.58.164 (talk) 08:50, 2 June 2016 (UTC)kookee

I may have just missed something important, but I don't see anything about how the paratroops were used. It mentions them in the preparations, says they are supposed to come in after the gliders, but that's the last mention I see of them, other than one brief thing about a few reinforcements being dropped to one of the bridge groups by parachute. I had read the description of the battle and came away with the impression that the entire assault was carried out by glider troops, so I was kind of surprised when I then read the part about how "the gliders were supposed to land first followed by the paratroops". I don't see anything about paratroops, other than in a very marginal way.
64.222.108.151 (talk) 05:52, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

The second paragraph of the lead section says, "The airborne troops suffered heavy casualties during the operation". However, the infobox says there were 6 killed and 20 wounded out of 493 deployed German soldiers. Those are not heavy casualties. Which is right? Bondegezou (talk) 19:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Something is wrong with the casualty figures, the article infobox lists 7 German casualties but the article seems to indicate that there were many more, I think the same casualties are counted more than once as the text is taken verbatim from the original source.
I just checked the citations and none are available online, someone will have to hit the books to clear this up--1.159.115.99 (talk) 13:06, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

"Adolf Hitler... had ordered that gliders be used after being told by his personal pilot, Hanna Reitsch, that gliders in flight were nearly silent"
Hanna Reitsch was not Hitler's "personal pilot". She was a test pilot with the Luftwaffe. Hitler's personal pilot was Hans Baur. 2A02:AA1:1640:F051:DCD9:E10:D5D5:1BFC (talk) 21:03, 28 September 2024 (UTC)