# Talk:Birdsong in music

Ok, I've added phrases stating that the composer actually put the animal names explicitly in the music. A point that should have been completely obvious from the scores to which I provided a link, so I don't understand why references to the scores were removed. Eijkhout (talk) 01:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

A bit better, thanks. Adding a score without saying "the composer states in the score that..." was hopelessly obscure, there was no way for readers, especially for non-musicians, to guess that. The composer could easily have put in a bird song-phrase without marking the bird's name in the score, and indeed many composers (e.g. Beethoven) have done exactly that, so please don't go on about "completely obvious", it wasn't and isn't. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:24, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Speaking of eras: there is a section talking about "earlier music", which to anyone into classical music would suggest before 1700 or thereabouts. Prokofjev doesn't classify as "earlier music". I feel that mention of Peter and the Wolf should be somewhere higher in the article, but right now I don't feel like doing the move myself. Eijkhout (talk) 01:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Merged the two 'classical' subsections, the division plainly isn't right. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:24, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

In the sentence where it says "It appears in Rameau's opera Hippolyte, Respighi's The Birds and Beethoven's Third Symphony." it should be the Sixth Symphony instead, the Third Symphony "Eroica" has no such use of birdsong. But the Sixth Symphony does use it in the second movement. Caters1 (talk) 02:07, 14 March 2024 (UTC)