# Talk:Backbreaker (video game)

any one know wat the teams are?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.24.105 (talk) 23:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC) 
Well, since nearly no information about the game has been released there are no confirmed teams. But I heard it's ambientated in the near future, so my best guess is they'll have original teams.
Ravnician (talk) 05:43, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I just called gamestop and they said backbreaker was coming out April 7, 2010--DABANANAMUFFIN (talk) 22:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Considering the demo just came out today and the website states the game will be coming out June 1st, I'm wondering if this can still be classified as vaporware.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.138.201 (talk) 00:59, 24 May 2010 (UTC) 

Thanks, done. This was added in July last year, and the template should probably have been removed a long time ago. :) Dreaded Walrus  t c 03:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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### Comments
*Please check Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources.  Some sources used are considered unreliable, VGChartz being one of the major ones.  Please see if you can find NPD Group sales info.

The first instance of a particular publisher, such as IGN, should be wikilinked in the citation
Only magazine or web-based magazines should be italiziced
Please move all references possible out of the lead, per WP:LEADCITE.  Basically if you've got it referenced elsewhere it shouldn't be referenced in the lead.
The in-game images are both a little large.  Both in their thumbnail size, and the actual image size.  Fair use rationale also needs to be expanded on both.  See File:Halo3odst-campaign.png for a good example of how video game image FUR should be followed.  The probably should be spread out a bit more as well, maybe place one in the multiplayer section
*The cover's rationale should be changed to Template:Vgboxart fur  See File:Arkham Asylum.jpg for a good example

Cover is now using vgboxart fur. Salavat (talk) 01:53, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
*Image captions seem to be explaining the semi-obvious at the moment.  Images are a good way to take a quick time to explain something short about the article.  Please see The Beatles: Rock Band for a good example, and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (captions) for reference.
*There are handful of disambig links
*There is no mention of the iPhone OS or Android OS's reception.  Only PS3/360.
*User-based scores should not be cited.  Only published, reliable sources.

The prose of the article uses the USA date style of Month Day, Year -- the citations however use the European style Day Month Year. I'm not partial to one or the other, but there needs to be a standard.  I would lean towards European style as it was developed by a British developer and published by an Italian publisher.
Some dates are still not standardized, also be sure to check the data vs accessdate in the references as well.
*The sections "Singe-player game modes" and "Multi-player game modes" can be shortened to simply Single player and Multiplayer per WP:VG standardizations

When using multiple references to support a statement, they should be in numeric order
Prose comments
*"a dynamic physics engine that calculates physical interactions (including tackles) on the fly" should be "...physical interactions, including tackles, on the fly".  Also consider replacing the phrase "on the fly" with "dynamically".
*"Because Electronic Arts has an exclusive license to produce NFL games in its Madden series, Backbreaker does not use teams from the National Football League in its game." This sentence just feels a bit awkward.  Why not start the sentence with "Backbreaker does not use teams from the National Football League" and then mention why.

Per my last comment "instead" can be removed from the next sentence.
*Mentioning the game announcement and delays in the second paragraph feels disjointed from the rest of it. Please move that information to the first paragraph.

There is no mention of scores for the iPhone or Android versions in the lead
There is also no mention of the PS3 scores
*"The game features 56 teams built-in" -- might sound better if "built-in" was put before between "56" and "teams".  

"The game" is used an awful lot throughout the article.  Replacing a few with the name of the game might help it seem less repetitive.
*"Due to this, the game pushed to advertise that "no two tackles are the same"" -- consider rewording this.  It makes it sound like the game itself advertised this, rather than the developer or publisher

Replace all instances of "gamers" and "users" with "players".
"The system was rated well by the reviewers" add the word "physics" to specify what the system is, in case the reader might feel like the whole game is the system.
"existing default team" does not need the word "default"
"Backbreaker features several game modes, some quick and some extensive." -- is ambiguous.  The reader won't know what is meant by this sentence until reading most of the section.  "Quick" and "extensive" should be expanded on slightly.
*"Games against other users are played in splitscreen format, contrary to the usual single-camera view of other football game series." -- should be moved to the multiplayer section.

Spelling error "Two users cal also play Tackle Alley"
*"Originally, the game was to be released on the Microsoft Windows platform, but it has since been cancelled for unknown reasons." -- the reference does not support this statement.

"Backbreaker was developed by the British NaturalMotion Games, Ltd." -- NaturalMotion has already been wikilinked in this section, so please remove this link
There is still a pipe "|" in the text
*"published by the American company 505 Games" -- the 505 Games article states that the company is actually Italian, with an American division. I think simply "published by the American division of 505 Games" would do, but only if the Italian site did not do any publishing in Europe.  In that case just leave it as "published by 505 Games"
*"The game was developed by Todd Gibbs and Dave Proctor, and was produced by Rob Donald and Matt Sherman." -- makes it seem like these were the only four working on this game.  

"until June 15, 2010 (after the game was released)." might flow better as "until June 15, 2010, two weeks after the North American release." since the game had not been released in PAL regions yet.
*"The game was released on June 1, 2010 in North America, while European users had to wait until June 25 to purchase the game." is unnecessary as it is already mentioned in both the lead and infobox.

"The iPhone OS version was released on September 29, 2009[18]," -- move the comma in front of the citation
*"XBOX 360" should be "Xbox 360"

"Gamerankings" should be GameRankings
The PlayStation LifeStyle quote should have a citation directly at the end of the quote.
*As mentioned before VGChartz is considered an unreliable source per Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources.  If you can, find sales data via NPD Group.  If not, omit the sales paragraph entirely.

Well, to be honest this might have been better served going to peer review first as there are a lot of small issues.  However overall the article is written fairly well.  As is customary I'll give one week's time for revision and updates per the notes above before passing or failing.
Reviewer: Teancum (talk) 23:59, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Issues addressed. A8x (talk) 01:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I have marked the issues that have been addressed, however a handful still remain. --Teancum (talk) 15:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Issues addressed (hopefully). A8x (talk) 18:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Everything looks great.  It's GA class now, but I'm a bit busy, so I'll promote it tomorrow morning. --Teancum (talk) 23:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear user:12.183.12.130. If you're still on Wikipedia, let me tell you that your edit on May 19th, 2010, involving EA and Madden, is not cited and is not cited with an official source from NaturalMotion, so I have reverted it. 188.236.163.41 (talk) 16:50, 14 March 2025 (UTC)