# Talk:141 Neil Road

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Nominator: Actuall7 (talk · contribs) 04:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 05:48, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Hello. I aim to complete this review within the week. Steelkamp (talk) 05:48, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I've completed my prose review. Next is to do a source review. Steelkamp (talk) 17:44, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
@Steelkamp: Thanks for reviewing so far. Have fixed all the prose issues. actuall7 (talk | contrib) 02:41, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Hey @Steelkamp, I was recently reminded of this GA review by another editor, after I accidentally forgot about it for the past month or so. I would assume that you also may have forgotten about this, and just want to see if you are still up to continuing this review? – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 04:26, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
@Steelkamp: I hope you don't mind but I would like to add some drive-by comments on this review. Actuall gave me a peer review on another article as well as copyediting a couple of my potential GANs and I felt that it's only right if I do something for Actuall. I don't intend on hijacking this review, rather just provide some comments on infobox stuff, prose, etc. Icepinner (formerly Imbluey2). Please ping me so that I get notified of your response  08:35, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
Actuall7: You're right that I forgot about this. I will get to it tomorrow. Icepinner: Feel free to add any comments you have. Steelkamp (talk) 13:20, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! Shall post soon. Icepinner (formerly Imbluey2). Please ping me so that I get notified of your response  14:41, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
@Actuall7: I've done a source review now, and there is one other comment in the images section. Thanks, Steelkamp (talk) 10:15, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
I believe I have addressed everything, @Steelkamp. Thanks again for reviewing, and please let me know if there are any other issues. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 11:44, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
No other issues. I'm going to pass the review now. Steelkamp (talk) 05:04, 23 July 2025 (UTC)


### Prose
Lead

"Nearby to Singapore's Chinatown..." This can be simplified to "Near Singapore's Chinatown...".
Done.
"Its last occupant died in 2006, during which it was also gazetted for conservation in 1991." This is a contradiction. 1991 is not in 2006. It should be reworded to something like "In 1991, it was gazetted for conservation, and in 2006, its last occupant died."
Done.
"...and subsequently purchased by the Portabella family in 2020." Subsequently can be removed here: "...and purchased by the Portabella family in 2020."
Done.
"NUS are currently undertaking the restoration of 141, along with research into the maintenance of heritage sites such as 141. NUS began in 2023 and is expected to complete by 2027." I suggest reworking these sentences like this: "Since 2023, NUS has been undertaking the restoration of 141, along with research into the maintenance of heritage sites such as 141. This is expected to be complete by 2027."
Done.
Site

"The townhouse is located at 141 Neil Road, in the Blair Plain conservation area of Bukit Merah. Neil Road was formerly known as Salat Road, being changed to its current name in 1858 by the Municipal Commission, who did so to honour British military officer James George Smith Neill (1810–1857) for his role in the Indian Rebellion of 1857." I'm skeptical that so much background information is needed. There is already a Wikipedia article on the road, which is linked. Can this be removed from this article?
I've shortened it instead, is it better?
I think it should be shortened further. I think including the name origin of the road is too much information that is not directly relevant to the building itself.
Alright, I've removed it.
"It is located nearby the interchange Outram Park MRT station and will be to the under construction Cantonment MRT station.[3][4] 141 Neil Road is also nearby to the Cantonment Tower Housing and Development Board flats and several condominiums such as Spottiswoode Suites, Spottiswoode 18, and Spottiswoode Residences." This is too much background as well. I think this should be removed and the remaining parts of this section should be merged into one paragraph.
Don't articles on buildings usually mention surrounding developments around it? Besides, the developed condominiums and buildings is to explain a line later: 141 Neil Road's nearby developments such as high-rises might disrupt its natural ventilation methods as they tower over and potentially block the natural ventilation.
"...but has been residential throughout..." Is this saying it has been residential since it was built. I suggest changing to "...but has been residential since it was built..."
Done.
History

"Neil Road 56–5". Is this a street address? If so, why is the number behind the street name? Was this how it was done back then?
Unsure why the numbers are behind, but this was the original street name for 141. Not sure when they changed the number from 56–5 to 141 either.
Is there any info on the original owner who built the house?
Can't find any sources on the original owner. Wei et al. 2024 states it was built as part of the Everton Estate, but can't find the construction of 141 or Everton Estate.
"This led to the Blair Plain–Neil Road area to increase in popularity...". -> "This led to an increase in popularity for the Blair Plain–Neil Road area..."
Done.
"...a family interested in investing that own 13 other shophouses." -> "...a family that own 13 other shophouses.
Done.
"...was to lower the carbon emissions of 141..." -> "...was to lower the building's carbon emissions..."
Done.
"...with the future benefit of possibly adding solar panels." I'm not quite sure what this means. Can you clarify?
Done. Meant future benefit of identifying the best spots to place solar panels.
"The townhouse's internal temperatures were up to 4 °C (39 °F) less than the exterior's..." -> "The townhouse's internal temperatures were up to 4 °C (39 °F) below the exterior's..."
Done.
"33 °C (91 °F) to 28 °C (82 °F)". I think it would be better if the lower temperature were first: "28 °C (82 °F) to 33 °C (91 °F)".
Switched.
"To refurbish the building while still maintaining its natural elements were described as "challenging" by Joshi." -> "To refurbish the building while still maintaining its natural elements was described as "challenging" by Joshi."
Done.
"141 Neil Road's nearby developments such as high-rises might disrupt its natural ventilation methods as they tower over and potentially block the natural ventilation." Why is this described as "might"? Have the high rise developments already happened?
There are high-rises already surrounding the area, with more being built.
"As has been done with previous shophouses, air-conditioning can be added to solve the ventilation issue, but will affect 141's low carbon emissions." -> "As has been done with previous shophouses, air-conditioning could be added to solve the ventilation issue, but would affect 141's low carbon emissions."
Done.
Architecture

"141 Neil Road's exterior appearance is that of a typical Singaporean townhouse, long and slender." Replace the comma with a colon: "141 Neil Road's exterior appearance is that of a typical Singaporean townhouse: long and slender."
Done.
"...but had to replaced over the years." -> "...but had to be replaced over the years."
Done.
"The new tiles will reflect sunlight better..." Should this be in present tense rather than future tense?
Mainly kept it in future tense as the restoration works are just what ArClab has said it is doing. Will change to present tense once restoration works are officially finished.
"Additionally, to further improve 141's ventilation..." The additionally can be removed here: "To further improve 141's ventilation..."
Removed.
"stories" should be replaced with "storeys".
Fixed.
It's unclear to me whether the third storey is on top or underneath the other two storeys.
The third storey is on top, but only takes up half the building. The other half is the attic.
"There is also an air well located in the building, which were a common feature..." -> "There is an air well located in the building, which was a common feature..."
Done.
"During the restoration works by ArClab, a ground-floor window by the rear is being converted into a wide doorway." Has this been completed yet?
Like the tiles above, will change to present tense once restoration works are officially finished.


### Sources
Sources spotchecked: 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.
"First Traditional". Both sources 6 and 7 call it the "First Transitional" style.
Thanks for spotting that, fixed.
"292 square metres". The source says 297 square metres.
Fixed.
The source doesn't label the third floor as an attic. It just calls it a "partial third floor".
Well, there is a third floor, but one half is very low and is called an attic. The other half is normal height and functions as a third floor. Have changed it to include "partial third floor" nonetheless.


### Images
Just wanted to ask, can I add some images from Wei et al. 2024? It is labelled as CC BY 4.0. Wanted to confirm first as I'm kinda bad with copyright. actuall7 (talk | contrib) 02:40, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see this comment. Yes, that's allowed. You can use this template on Wikimedia Commons for the image. Steelkamp (talk) 05:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
I'm unsure why the Interior of the Baba House image is there. Isn't that a different house? Its not mentioned in prose.
Fixed the caption.
@Actuall7: The image description and title on Commons calls it the "NUS Baba House interior". Same with the image in the infobox. Is that wrong?
Yes, the names of the images are wrong. Have confirmed with the original uploader and the images were accidentally confused with another house on Neil Road, the Baba House. Don’t worry though, these images are the correct ones, the names are just wrong.


### Drive-by comments from Icepinner
Just some comments on prose, infobox stuff, etc, nothing too serious. Icepinner (formerly Imbluey2). Please ping me so that I get notified of your response  14:46, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments, @Icepinner. Have addressed them all. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 02:21, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
Would suggest getting rid of "interchange" before Outram Park MRT station for clarity
 Done
several condominiums such as Spottiswoode Suites, Spottiswoode 18, and Spottiswoode Residences I'm debating whether to keep this or not. I normally don't include names of condominiums in articles since it may seem promotional but if there is suitable consensus then I don't mind
I don't mind removing them,  Done.
Use {{SGDConvert}} for monetary values
 Done
Infobox needs citations on 141's coordinates (use Onemap for this)
 Done