# Talk:Big Hoops (Bigger the Better)

Another review for the song...http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/singlesreviews/a384896/nelly-furtado-big-hoops-the-bigger-the-better-single-review.htmlManas justice (talk) 12:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

"Big Hoops" has been certified 'gold' in Canada, that is, 40,000 digital downloads sold...http://musiccanada.com/GPSearchResult.aspx?st=&ica=False&sa=&sl=&smt=0&sat=-1&ssb=Cert.%20Date&ssdir=descendingManas justice (talk) 05:24, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Websites like popdust, popcrush, idolator and hitflix are not professional critics and hence their review should not be included in the 'critical reception' section...Manas justice (talk) 17:15, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Big Hoops (Bigger the Better)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Petergriffin9901 (talk · contribs) 00:39, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm really tempted to quick-fail this article, but as you've waited over two months I'll give it a shot. It really needs a lot of work. You need an able copy-editor immediately. The prose are unfortunately very poor. Also, the references are all over the place. Several not even formatted, and I find it hard to even find 1 done properly.--CallMeNathan  • Talk2Me  22:48, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Rewrote the article, can you take another look? igordebraga ≠ 01:43, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

as the lead single from The Spirit Indestructible, her first English-language album in six years. -> This should be re-arranged
and celebrates the swagger that music gives a listener. -> statements like this are problematic. Again, needs a good copy-editor
You should try and buff up the article a bit. It's kind of low on content. Can't you find more information?
Still have several unreliable sources. Twitter, Youtube, Thatgrapjuice etc. Still needs a lot of work. I'm willing to give you some time, so just focus on improving it.--CallMeNathan  • Talk2Me  00:54, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
"Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves" - and given the refs taken from YouTube and Twitter come only from Nelly's own channel, they serve as primary sources. Anyway, added and rewrote some more material. igordebraga ≠ 03:39, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm getting a bit annoyed. You've literally added nothing. I'm getting tired of you keep hassling me to check the article when you do not properly apply the advice I give. Articles under my review will not get a pass with references from YouTube, Twitter, or any kind of blog. I don't know what GAs you have been molding this after, but you've better search for another.--CallMeNathan  • Talk2Me  04:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Cut as many questionable sources as I could (only left two of Nelly's twitter, as " A specific tweet may be useful as a self-published, primary source."). Can you expand on prose problems? igordebraga ≠ 05:37, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Let's try again. Remember, I have this page watch-listed. Sources 1, 7, 17, 24, 26, 29, 38, and 42 are unreliable and must be replaced. Next you have so many ref inconsistencies and just plain wrong formatting. Why are 16 & 18 different? Where are the publishers? Publishers for 2, 5, 14? Why are 6 & 32 different? Why is 6 cite news and not cite web? You need to take a good article to mold the sources after. There are too many issues.
Next, I asked for you to try and find more information on the song and expand the content. You did not try at all. 
And for prose: 

and celebrates the feelings brought by music in the listener. -> ???
Furtado's vocals were criticized and described as irritating -> This should be in quotes with a direct source after it. Who said this?
The song was a moderate success on the charts, reaching a higher peak on the UK Singles Chart at number 14 -> How does this make sense?
and cityscapes that Furtado towers over -> What the hell is that supposed to mean? You haven't mentioned anything about stilts
that Nelly Furtado -> Furtado, the singer, she
Furtado stated that the song was written from the point of view of herself at the age of fourteen, with the lyrics translating "the essence I think of my life as a teenager", where she was "growing up in my small town but living, living this life that was full of this wonderful R&B and hip hop music that I listened to and it became sort of part of my lifestyle and my friends and I we lived, it was the soundtrack of that time in my life." -> This one is just a big mess of tenses, poorly placed and incorporated quotes etc.
As You can see, this article needs a lot of work.--CallMeNathan  • Talk2Me  23:50, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I do not see sufficient effort being put in from the nominator. I highlighted several things a few times, and they were continuously overlooked. We are nearing one month, and the editor hasn't even replied to me or made sufficient edits to the article in almost 10 days. I'm failing the article. Good luck, but you should really do a lot more before re-nominating.--CallMeNathan  • Talk2Me  09:48, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

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