# Talk:Beggin' on Your Knees

When are the Cast of Victorious singing in the song. They HAVE to sing, so technically Victoria Justice is the only artist in the song. OKAY? — Preceding unsigned comment added by VictoriaJusticeFan1 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 12 April 2011

Not OK, no. We go with documented credits, not with your personal reasoning -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:56, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Reliable sources say it it the Cast of Victorious ft. Victoria Justice, so we say it it the Cast of Victorious ft. Victoria Justice. - SummerPhD (talk) 21:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
But what "reliable source" says that? YouTube? - VictoriaJusticeFan1 (talk 21:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
VictoriaJusticeFan1, changing other people's comments to say something different is a complete no-no - if you change mine again, you will be blocked -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Actually, I hadn't realised you had already had several "final" warnings - you are now blocked for 2 days -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:23, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
The single cover you uploaded says that, as does Billboard[1]. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Beggin' on Your Knees's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Standard":
From Victorious: Music from the Hit TV Show: Victorious (2011). "Victorious Cast feat. Victoria Justice - Victorious: Music from the Hit TV Show - Amazon.com Music". amazon.com. Archived from the original on July 6, 2011.
From Victorious 3.0: Even More Music from the Hit TV Show: "Victorious 3.0: Even More Music from the Hit TV Show by Victoria Justice and Victorious cast". iTunes.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 17:50, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:Beggin' on Your Knees/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Shoot for the Stars (talk · contribs) 00:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 10:44, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar): 

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section): 

b. (citations to reliable sources): 

c. (OR): 

d. (copyvio and plagiarism): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects): 

b. (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): 

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/fail: 

(Criteria marked  are unassessed)
I will start this sometime this week. --K. Peake 10:44, 29 January 2025 (UTC)


### Infobox and lead
Remove the usage of Studios after the ones in the infobox since this is redundant when the parameter is named studio
 Done
WP:OVERLINK of Shellback under producers
 Done
I would re-arrange the current opening two sentences, so the first one ends by introducing it as "from the show's debut soundtrack album, Victorious: Music from the Hit TV Show (2011)" and the next then says it was released as the album's second single on April 1, 2011, through those labels mentioned
 Done
Also, I would place a sentence adding the writing and production credits to the lead as the sentence before the release one to take up some more space here as it is quite short right now
 Done
"the track is a" → ""Beggin' on Your Knees" is a"
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"The song was met with generally positive reviews from critics, with the majority of them praising its" → "The song received generally positive from critics, who mostly praised the"
 Done
""Beggin' on Your Knees" peaked at" → "It peaked at"
 Done

Wikilink music video and remove "for the track"
 Done


### Background
Good


### Writing and music
Retitle to Composition and lyrics for a clearer representation of this information
 Done
"He also provided the recording" → "He provided the recording" as this is separate from writing and production, also avoids overusage of also
 Done
Remove or replace New York Post per WP:RSP as this is being used for an analysis of song lyrics about cheating problems
 Done
Add the information about the chorus per [3]
 Done


### Critical reception
Per the overly short size of commercial performance, move that to here and retitle to Reception
 Done
"received positive reviews" → "was met with positive reviews"
 Done
"gave the song three stars out of five, describing it as a "catchy song" that is "great" → "described the song's catchiness as "great" to be less wordy, also the rating is not needed to be repeated when it is already shown in the box
 Done
Re-invoke [9] at the end of the first sentence of this para
 Done
"comparing the tracks lyrics" → "comparing its lyrics" and rather than quoting them all out from this single, write "about the boyfriend "begging on your knees for me""
 Done


### Promotion
Wikilink music video
 Done
"channel on March 22, 2011." → "channel on March 22."
 Done
[15] does not source any of the info about the carnival sentence
Source removed
Regarding the sentence about Justice performing the song throughout 2012, [18] only cites two performances and [19] has nothing about this song so can you source this or alter the prose suitably?
One source removed. Left the other in where it mentions she performed it.
Only one of the sources actually mentions Matt Bennett having performed the song
Removed two of them.


### Chart performance
Make this the last para of the reception section
 Done
[23] is not needed when the other ref backs this up and is the only one to mention the date of April 16
 Not done I feel like this source is important becomes it come from Billboard and also shows that the song debuted at number 83.
[26] should be at the end of the multiple charts sentence instead
 Done


### Credits and personnel
Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel
 Done


### Charts
Per WP:USCHARTS, please remove the main US Digital Song Sales chart
 Done


### Certifications and sales
Retitle to Certifications
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### References
Copyvio score looks strong at 23.1%!!!
Make sure every ref has an access-date
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Remove or replace ref 8 per RSP
 Partly done I have removed the New York Post from the composition section but left it referenced for the music videos first release. WP:RSP says it okay to use the New York Post for entertainment coverage. No other source mentions the videos first release other than PRNEWSWIRE. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 22:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
Ditto for ref 15 per WP:PRNEWSWIRE
 Done
Denver Post → The Denver Post on ref 19 with the wikilink
I removed the ref from the article.
Remove or replace ref 21 per WP:RSSM
 Done
You need to add a proper title to ref 26
 Done
Add the original URL as well to ref 30
 Not done the original link is broken and doesn't work. Only way to access it is through Internet Archive. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 22:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)


### Final comments and verdict
 On hold until all of the issues are fixed; done the next day of course! --K. Peake 17:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
Kyle Peake Thank you so much for the review! It feels so good to be back writing again after so long. I have left my responses above. Look forward to hearing your response. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 22:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
Shoot for the Stars  Pass now, great job congratulations on your return GA much deserved and you explained well why certain points were not implemented! --K. Peake 08:20, 31 January 2025 (UTC)