# Talk:Abel Tasman Monument

Shawn Teller, I was a bit surprised by this edit as "memorial monument" is a strange combination of words. English isn't my native language and maybe it's a MOS:ENGVAR issue, but to my ears, this sounds wrong. Maybe other New Zealand English speakers could provide a perspective: Paora — Chocmilk03:. Schwede66 22:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@Schwede66: I think that memorial monument is fine as a phrase in NZ English, to distinguish from other types of memorials such as a memorial garden, a memorial plaque or a memorial seat, for example. It could be argued that the word monument is redundant after memorial in the lede given that three words previously the item being discussed is named as the Abel Tasman Monument. I'm not too bothered either way. Paora (talk) 01:16, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
I think this change enhances the overall prose in the lead. Just trying to help get it to GA status. Shawn Teller (talk) 02:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
@Shawn Teller Thanks for the suggestion! I agree with @Paora that either way is fine, though using "memorial" in the opening sentence and then "monument" later on in the lead does streamline the prose a bit. Another option would be "commemorative sculpture" or "commemorative monument." Perhaps one of these can be used later in the article if we're looking for a synonym. I'm happy to let @Schwede66 decide. Also @Shawn Teller, as the GAR is ongoing, we'd love to have edits additionally mentioned in the review page so that we can be aware of any changes. :-) Ppt91talk 18:59, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

In the GA discussion above, I'm talking about an interpretation panel update that was planned for 2017. I now know that it didn't happen as we've got a photo of the panel in 2015. It's still the same as it was back then. Schwede66 22:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)