# Talk:Bad Idea Right?

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Nominator: MaranoFan (talk · contribs) 15:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Ippantekina (talk · contribs) 02:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 

It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
a (reference section):  b (inline citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism): 

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):  b (focused): 

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias: 

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.: 

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 

Overall:
Pass/Fail: 

Heyo MaranoFan, it's interesting to see that Ms. Olivia is now your new musical muse! Will review this article shortly. I haven't listened to Ms. Olivia's music much, but I enjoy "Deja Vu" which you already brought to FA. Ippantekina (talk) 02:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I decided to spread the wealth among newer artists, lol. Definitely fun to write about an album where most tracks were hits; is this how Swifties feel? Thanks for taking this on, and I am impressed you manage to make time to do reviews while keeping up with Swift's high volume of output.--NØ 04:43, 9 August 2024 (UTC)


#### Prose
"hook up" sounds a little informal
Looking at our own article on the topic, it can range from just making out to other sexual activities. I don't think the lyrics are specific about how far she wanted to go with the ex, so what would you suggest as the more formal substitute?
I think "rekindle with her ex-lover" could be a substitute. "Hook up" is a rather recent phrasing imo. Ippantekina (talk) 03:26, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
"unprecedented commercial success" kinda POV?
Removed "unprecedented". Saying it's successful should be safe to do in wikivoice imo given both what the sources cited within the article say and Billboard calling it one of the most dominant number ones of the 30 years preceding it.
I think we don't need to mention the fact that "Vampire" was a no. 1 hit
Swapped with a bit about this being the second consecutive top 10 single from the album in the Commercial performance section. Thanks for the inspiration :)


#### File usage
I don't think the extra 7" cover is necessary per WP:NFCC criteria 3a and 8
Removed.--NØ 08:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
@Ippantekina: Adding ping for the above clarification question, and since it's been a while.--NØ 00:42, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Thanks Marano for the ping, please bare with me as I'm juggling multiple stuff but I'll get this done by this Thursday the latest :) Ippantekina (talk) 03:26, 20 August 2024 (UTC)


#### More comments
Still dubious about "hook up". Though I recommend "rekindling with" I'm open to discussion on this.
"On the other hand, Lindsay Zoladz..." not really necessary
"Bad Idea Right?" heavily features guitars in its instrumentation, which are influenced by riot grrrl" false modifier?
"with the verses and chorus almost completely spoken, but it includes a melodic pre-chorus" I'd write "the track includes"
"to the work of Avril Lavigne,[52][53] Wet Leg, Soccer Mommy," the works?
"featured in the television series Glee and the film Freaky Friday (2003)" do we need the year(s) for Glee also?
"a distinction they also gave to "Vampire" upon its release" irrelevant?
"Ranking the song as the fifth-best track on Guts, Billboard's Jason Lipshutz believed [...], and Sputnikmusic's Sowing thought [...]" did both of these critics rank the song as the fifth-best?
"the piano-driven ballads that famed Rodrigo" "had famed"?
Pay extra attention to quotation marks, i.e. "a capital-P Performer,"
"The former song" I'd just write it out "Bad Idea Right?" as "the former song" seems trivializing for the subject matter of this article
"the Official Charts Company declared it her 11th-biggest song in the country in February 2024" "declared" seems heavy... maybe "reported that it was..."?
— Ippantekina (talk) 08:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)


### =Spotchecks
[2] Y
[22] ? doesn't really support the claim "Early on in the creation process of Guts in 2022"; crosses out for the lyric part
This says "Making Guts, we had this super start with 'Get Him Back' and 'Bad Idea, Right?' and 'Ballad of a Homeschooled Girl'", which is what I was interpreting early on in the creation process from, and this (published in 2023) says Rodrigo was "making this song with @dan_nigro in NYC last year".
[28] Y
[31] Y
[32] Y
[46] Y — maybe also quoting the exact lyrics?
I switched out "undertones" for "hidden meanings". I would say referring to the phone call as a phone call is fine since paraphrasing there would change the meaning.
[77] Y — do we add new wave as a genre to the Infobox as well? This seems to pass WP:EXPLICITGENRE
[98] Y
[117] ? this requires subscription; the archived link is 404
Overall very close to passing. — Ippantekina (talk) 08:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Ippantekina. I think everything should be addressed now. If anything got missed then I am happy to revisit. By the way, I did not start the nomination page for one of your GANs now since you seemed busy but let me know if there is any specific review you would like me to do for you. Best, NØ 17:32, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
@MaranoFan: Happy to pass this! Great work as always :) Would be great if you could review Soon You'll Get Better which I think should be short and sweet (no, this is not a pun on Sabrina's latest album lol). Ippantekina (talk) 03:38, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

I am not here to simply argue that any genre is correct or incorrect; I am above that on sourced content, even if my opinions do assert that some of these critics are out of their damn minds. However, Template:Infobox song#genre recommends we use at least two and no more than four genres. Some people who have encountered me on Wikipedia know my stance on this documentation is that this should not be interpreted as law policy, but guidelines, and that I feel that it is not always possible to cram an accurate description in four labels. However, pages like the way "Bad Idea Right?" currently stands is the reason the documentation exists: nine genres is absurd.
First and foremost, there is no reason to be listing plain, general genres like "rock" when pop rock exists right next to it. We get the idea. "Jangle rock" is not a genre recognized by Wikipedia and, if I'm being pedantic, is not mentioned in the genre it's piped to, jangle pop. Seven is better than nine, and this is a good start I would recommend. Personally I'd also axe one of new wave or power pop considering their close relation to other, stronger candidates. I'm open to any other ideas, but the discussion needs to be had. mftp dan  oops  02:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Olivia Rodrigo - Bad Idea Right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Idea_Right%3F
Composition
Third paragraph
'Rodrigo also tries to pretend that she is innocent and accidentally slipped and fell on the ex's bed.[63][65]'

Quotes from song
"I just tripped and fell into his bed"  [Line is repeated four times throughout the song]
"but i never said where, or in whose sheets"

The character portrayed in the song is traveling to see their ex-boyfriend to experience .. intimacy
'In the bed', gives a very different connotation to listeners,  than 'on the bed'. 146.199.25.180 (talk) 15:59, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

I'm thinking the reader would probably figure out from the context that something sexual might be being implied (my mind would have gone there after reading the next sentence). Unless you think there are any additional nuances that need to be conveyed. Clarinetguy097 (talk) 00:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

Suggest that there is a small nod to a previous Johnny Cash song,
'Boy Named Sue',  this is also a comedic song

Johnny Cash song  - 'Boy Named Sue' 1969
[ When the character has got into a fight ]
"I tell ya, I've fought tougher men.
But I really can't remember when,"

Olivia Rodrigo song - 'Bad Idea Right' 2023
"and I'm sure I've seen much hotter men,
but I really can't remember when" 146.199.25.180 (talk) 16:06, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

If you happen to see anyone of importance on the internet acknowledge this, we can source it, but until then it's apparently not a big deal. mftp dan  oops  04:16, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
Or maybe the overlap between Rodrigo's and Cash's fanbases is small enough that nobody else's noticed it yet. Clarinetguy097 (talk) 04:44, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
lol 86.18.77.178 (talk) 00:07, 13 August 2025 (UTC)