text: Hi Jo, welcome to the group. Making a candle without fragrance oil to find the correct wick is a bit of a waste of time. Each time to add fragrance the candle will perform very differently. There are a few 464 users on the group that may be able to point you in the right direction.
  
  From memory Stabilo wicks work well in 464. One of our admin team Guillaume Pochon uses 464 in his candles. I'm sure he can give you a little steer in the right direction 🙂