text: Dont give up. It takes time (and a lot of patience). I haven't used those waxes, so can not give any advice. I use CS1 and absolutely love it. I did try a different wax (not Candle Shack) and didn't like it at all. I picked CS1 after reading the comments about it, so thought I would give it a try. I havent looked back. It also gives a fabulous finish after a second pour. Good luck, you will be amazing 😊💕