D: or to listen to .
D: Both .
E: Have have you noticed that sometimes you have these a a g g greater frequency of speech errors , I think , during times of inter of overlap
D: Yeah .
E: which which is you can just tell a person 's m monitoring at two levels
C: Yeah .
B: Mmm .
A: Mm - hmm .
E: and it 's it 's difficult .
A: Mm - hmm .
D: They 're like just trying really hard to get it out before they get interrupted or something ,
C: Right .
A: Yeah .
D: falls apart . I don't know .
C: I like transcribing you
C: cuz you 're very polite .
E: Oh , thank you !
C: No , really .
C: You 're always like " Well , I was just thinking about this ,
C: and maybe this might be if "
C: I uh , you know .
D: Yeah .
C: It 's just it 's just kind of cute
C: because everybody 's like , " Oh . Well , OK . "
C: And they 'll just listen to you , you know .
D: Yeah .
C: They don't interrupt you ,
C: they 're just like , " Well , OK . "
C: It 's kind of neat .
D: Yep .
E: Thank you .
E: Yeah .
E: Let 's see . Have you noti th one of the things that I found is is , um , surprisingly difficult these days is to co is to get certain electronic sounds , to try and describe them .
D: Hmm .
E: Have I was thinking about that the other day ,
D: Yeah .
E: it was like it 's like ,
E: y y you know ,
E: someone in one of these EDU meetings , they have a laptop
E: and they hit the thing
E: and the and there 's an error screen that comes up
E: and it has this " doink " <comment> kind of sound .
E: And it B: Hmm .
C: Right . Right .
E: What is that ?
E: It 's not a beep .
D: Yeah .
E: It 's not a bell .
E: It 's not s it 's not a " dong " .
E: It 's not a E: I mean , you there 're all these words that I could imagine
E: and so , it 's like , it 's a " tinny kind of electronic sound that comes up when you make an error with your laptop " .
E: And that 's  that 's not really very helpful .
B: I wonder if like Microsoft has a word for it .
C: Now I 'm now I 'm just wondering how they 're gonna transcribe you saying that .
D: Yes .
E: Oh . You mean the voice quality ?
E: The the shift in C: The " doink " .
B: Bling .
E: Oh , that thing .
C: Yeah . I know .
E: Oh th
A: Now you did it again !
A: Stop torturing them !
C: No !
B: Let 's not make things hard on ourselves later .
D: I know .
A: Yeah .
E: Yeah . Well and then , you know , there are these other things that I think are really interesting ,
E: like the vocal changes in character .
E: People shifting into a kind of a comic voice ,
D: Mm - hmm .
E: or sort of a mock - this or mock - that ,
F: Mmm .
B: Mmm .
A: Mmm .
E: you know , the sighing
E: and the , " Oh no ! "
E: You know , it 's it 's , uh , i There are lot 's of nuances which we uh , which we use very often .
D: Mm - hmm .
E: Comic words and things like that .
D: You know , I
E: And B: Huh .
A: Sorry .
E: Yeah ?
D: sorry , to  I just remembered one thing that really was you needed E: Yeah .
D: I think it was you that pointed out the problem .
D: Like you needed to be at the meeting to be able to transcribe correctly , the noise .
D: I think it was Adam was making this really strange noise ,
D: and apparently he was pretending E: " Eech - eech " , <comment> or something .
D: he was like pretending to r screw something into his head ?
E: " Whee - whee " .
B: What ?
E: s s
D: Was that what it was ?
E: Yes . It was one of these it was this kind of deal .
A: Oh yeah , I had that one .
D: Yeah ! Y yeah !
A: Oh yeah .
E: Yes . Oh , yes .
E: And he got to transcribe this meeting .
A: Yeah ,
E: And there was all this meta stuff about A: that was fun .
E: Cuz I was giving a report on what the comments were ,
E: and it was one of these was this ,
E: s so D: Uh - huh .
A: Yeah .
E: " Whee - whee " . <comment> is what he said .
E: And he was going like this at the time .
D: Mm - hmm .
C: Joel 's like , " I am not amused . "
A: I don't even wanna , like , try to repeat what he said
A: because I don't wanna put the transcriber through it again .
E: Yes , that 's right .
E: Let 's just A: But they actually had a big list of , like , things that people had transcribed
A: and then they were reading one them one by one
A: and being , like , " What 's this ?
A: This ? "
A: You know , and then doing the sounds ,
C: Aw !
A: and then , " This sound must be this sound !
D: Oh .
D: Oh wow .
A: This sound must be this ! "
D: y I had one like that where they were describing the different f qualities of " uh - huh " and " uh " and " uah "
D: and like what " EH " is versus " UH " versus " AH " .
A: u u I had yeah , I had one like that too .
F: Yeah !
B: Hmm .
E: Oh man .
D: That was really hard .
D: Yeah .
D: That 's really interesting .
A: I had
A: Yeah .
A: I had one where they were just they were just , like , talking about each word , you know ,
A: and they were saying they were just describing the word over and over again ,
A: and just the q the quotes around the word were driving me crazy . When they kn knowing
A: when to put the quotes and when A: And then they were talking about like the difference between " uh " when it 's " a " <comment> or when it 's " uh " ,
D: Yeah .
A: and at some point they were saying it so much , I didn't know how to transcribe it anymore .
D: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
A: I was like , " I don't know if you 're saying " a " or " uh " anymore " .
D: Yeah .
C: Right .
F: Oh , yeah .
E: You did an excellen excellent job .
E: That was really it was like m transcription , a meta - transcription and meta meta meta .
A: Oh , thank you .
D: Yeah .
F: Yeah . Cool !
E: It 's really @ @ .
A: It was fun .
D: Yeah .
E: You know , I 'm really interested in this topic .
E: Would it be a problem if we continued a little bit longer on this ?
E: Or do you need to g do people need to leave .
E: I don't wanna keep you longer than C: Mm - mmm .
A: I 'm fine .
B: I can stay .
D: I don't have to be anywhere until five ,
F: Sure .
E: Are we OK ?
D: so .
E: Oh , OK . We won't be that long , I don't think .
F: No .
D: Good .
F: Sure .
E: But but I really appreciate it .
A: OK .
E: This is just really i it 's so interesting to me , the the specific experiences of of having encountered these data in this way .
E: Does , um Did anybody else wanna say anything about F: I mean , just weird things like before F: like , I had kind of a weird thing happen ,
F: and we 'd talked about it .
F: It was when I 'd first started working on the project I got this discussion where F: this was before we had the different channels ,
F: and , um , Dan Ellis it was when Dan Ellis was still here
E: Yes .
F: so it was like kind of early on , right ?
F: And , um ,
F: he everyone 's talking ,
F: and then all of the sudden , you hear Dan talking to someone else
F: and it 's different people that you 'd never heard before .
F: And and what he had done , is he had left the room to g
F: He 'd li and he had brought the microphone with him .
C: Oh , no .
F: And this is without the channelized interface .
F: So you you have no idea .
E: Oh my gosh .
D: Oh man .
A: Oh wow .
F: You think everyone 's just become schizophrenic or something .
D: Oh n
F: And they 're all like in they 're own r world or something
F: because Then all of the sudden he 's talking about a co he needs a copy machine .
F: And I don and I 'm just assuming , well he 's s s still in the room
C: Oh g
F: and what the heck 's he talking about ?
A: Wow !
F: But just sort of just weird things like that ,
F: and , um Yeah , he had just left the room
F: and gone and made a copy
F: and he still had his microphone on ,
F: and then you could hear the the the r the women behind the desk talking to him ,
F: and just sort of stuff like that .
F: It was just really bizarre .
F: So .
D: That 's really funny .
F: Anyway . Just sort of weird things like that .
E: Well , it is There 's another case where I ran across like o of that type ,
E: um , i when I was sitting here and we were doing E: This was like o one of the first meetings I ever participated in
E: and and Dan was adjusting something here
E: and Adam was in the next room ,
E: and , um , Adam says , " So I 'll come in here and check the levels , "
E: and and he says something
E: and Dan says , " No " .
E: And it sounds like he 's saying " no " to Adam ,
E: and it was w if if if so , this would have been extremely rude .
B: Mmm .
E: But - but the thing and and the reason that it would be rude is because you don't have this information from hearing all these equalized volume channels ,
C: Uh - huh .
D: Right .
E: you don't know that they 're not participating in the same conversation at all .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
F: Yeah .
E: It really is strange .
F: Yeah .
E: I it lead us it ta if we w
F: So .
E: It is true that this is kind of an artificial
E: and i um ,
E: discourse c aspect ,
E: the mixed channel is artificial
E: because we 're boosting it in order to make everything audible .
D: Yeah .
A: Mm - hmm .
B: Hmm .
C: It 's interesting cuz like , um , when I 'm working late at night , <comment> I actually don't feel so lonely
E: But