G: Yep .
E: but D: Yeah .
D: w Just " what would you like to know ? "
E: Yeah .
G: But that neither could anyone else , though , is what , uh , my point is .
E: Yes .
H: I I was wondering if if there might be one s more source of queries
H: which is indicator phrases like " action item " ,
A: OK .
H: which could be obtained from the text from the transcript .
G: Right . Since we have the transcript .
H: Yeah .
G: Dates maybe .
G: I don't know .
G: That 's something I always forget .
H: Yeah , that 's something to be determined , something to be specified ,
B: Well , probably if you have to sit there at the end of a meeting and say one thing you remember , it 's probably whatever action item was assigned to you .
H: but text - oriented .
B: I mean , in gen that 's all I remember from most meetings .
H: I think you 'd remember that , yeah .
G: That that 's all I wrote down .
B: So , in general , I mean , that could be something you could say , right ?
B: I 'm supposed to do this .
H: Yeah , that 's true .
B: It it doesn't H: Well , but then you could you could prompt them to say , you know , " other than your action item " ,
H: you know , whatever .
H: But but the action item would be a way to get , uh , maybe an additional query .
E: Well B: I mean , that 's realistically what people might well be remembering .
H: So .
B: So .
D: Hmm .
H: Yeah .
H: Well , but you know , but you could get again @ @ A: Well , we 're piloting .
A: We 'll just do it and see what happens .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
H: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: I usually don't remember my action items .
D: But  I 'd I A: OK - OK . Speaking of action items , can we move on to action items ?
D: Yeah .
D: Mm - hmm .
H: Yeah . yeah .
G: Sure . Can you hand me my note pad ?
A: Um ,
A: or maybe we should wait until the summary of this until this meeting is transcribed
A: and then we will hav
E: Yeah . Then we 'll know .
D: We we had I mean ,
G: Thanks .
D: somewhere up there we had milestones ,
D: but I guess Did y did you get enough milestone , uh , from the description things ?
A: I got A: Yeah . In fact , why don't you hand me those transparencies so that I remember to take them .
A: eee ,
D: OK .
A: OK .
D: And , you know , there 's obviously detail behind each of those , as much as is needed .
D: So , you just have to let us know .
A: OK .
A: What I have down for action items is we 're supposed to find out about our human subject , um , requirements .
H: Good .
G: Yep .
A: Uh ,
A: people are supposed to send me U R
A: for their for web pages ,
A: to c and I 'll put together an overall cover .
A: And you 're s
E: Right . We A: Hmm ?
E: we need to look at our web page
E: and make one that 's A: And and you also need to look at your web page
E: that 's p
G: Right .
A: and clean it up by mid - July .
E: PDA - free .
E: Yeah .
A: Um ,
D: Right .
A: let 's see .
A: Choo - choo - choo .
G: Mailing lists .
A: We A: Mailing list ?
A: Uh , you need to put together a mailing list .
D: Three of them .
D: Well  I mean ,
A: Uh , I think w
A: Yeah .
D: uh ,
A: Um ,
D: mostly together .
A: uh , I need to email Adam or Jane ,
A: um , about getting the data .
A: Who should I email ?
G: Uh , how quickly do you want it ?
A: Um .
G: My July is really very crowded .
G: And so , uh A: How about if I just c
A: Uh , Right now all I want A: I personally only want text data .
A: I think the only thing Jeff would do anything with right now A: But I 'm just speaking fr based on a conversation with him two weeks ago I had in Turkey .
A: But I think all he would want is the digits .
A: Um , but I 'll just speak for myself .
A: I 'm interested in getting the language model data .
A: Eh , so I 'm just interested in getting transcriptions .
G: Mm - hmm .
H: OK .
A: So then just email you ?
H: So y
H: Sure , sure , sure .
A: OK .
H: You could email to both of us , uh , just I mean , if you wanted to .
D: Wh
D: Mm - hmm .
H: I mean , I don't think either of us would mind recei
A: OK .
D: i
H: but but in any case I 'd be happy to send you the G: That 's right .
A: And your email is ?
D: i
H: Edwards at
H: ICSI .
A: OK .
D: w
G: Dot Berkeley dot EDU , of course .
D: In in our phone call , uh , before , we we , uh It turns out the way we 're gonna send the data is by , uh ,
A: And then D: And , uh D: and then what they 're gonna do is take the CD - ROM and transfer it to analog tape
D: and give it to a transcription service , uh , that will G: Oh , is this IBM ?
D: Yeah .
H: Yeah , using foot pedals
H: and D: Yeah , foot foot pedals
D: and G: Uh , so do they How are they gonna do the multi - channel ?
D: See , that 's a good question .
H: Yeah . They they don't have a way .
G: I thought so .
H: But they have a verification .
D: No , I mean , it 'll be
G: Mix ?
D: probably about like you did ,
D: and then there will be some things you know , many things that don't work out well .
D: And that 'll go back to IBM
D: and they 'll they 'll , uh they run their aligner on it
D: and it kicks out things that don't work well ,
D: which you know , the overlaps will certainly be examples of that .
D: And , uh D: I mean , what w we will give them all of it . Right ?
D: We 'll give them all the the multi - channel stuff
G: OK . That 's , uh , my question .
G: So we 'll give them all sixteen channels
D: and G: and they 'll do whatever they want with it .
D: Yeah .
B: But you also should probably give them the mixed You know , equal sound - level D: Yeah . Good idea .
A: Mm - hmm .
B: I mean , they 're not gonna easily be able to do that , probably .
G: It 's not hard .
D: Well B: Ah , yeah .
G: So .
D: It 's also won't be adding much to the data to give them the mixed .
F: But w
B: Mm - hmm .
F: It 's not G: Yep . Absolutely .
B: I
F: Right . It doesn't it isn't difficult for us to do ,
A: Right .
B: i You should F: so we might as well just do it .
G: Absolutely .
B: Yeah .
B: You should that may be all that they want to send off to their transcribers .
G: So , sure .
A: OK . Related to to the conversation with Picheny ,
A: I need to email him , uh , my shipping address
A: and you need to email them something which you already did .
H: I did .
H: I I m emailed them the Transcriber URL ,
H: um , the on - line , uh , data that Adam set up ,
H: The URL
H: so they can click on an utterance and hear it .
H: and I emailed them the str streamlined conventions
H: which you got a copy of today .
D: Right . And I was gonna m email them the which I haven't yet , a pointer to to the web pages that we that we currently have ,
D: cuz in particular they want to see the one with the the way the recording room is set up
H: Good .
D: and so on , your your page on that .
H: Oh , excellent . Good .
G: And then p possibly H: I C - I CC ' ed Morgan .
H: I should have sent I should have CC ' ed you as well .
A: OK .
G: Not an immediate action item but something we do have to worry about is data formats for for higher - level information .
A: OK .
D: Oh , yeah .
G: Well , or d or not even higher level ,
D: We were gonna G: different level , prosody and all that sort of stuff .
G: We 're gonna have to figure out how we 're gonna annotate that .
D: Yeah , we w
A: Yeah . We never had our data format discussion .
H: Oh , I thought we did .
D: Right .
H: We discussed , uh , musi musical score notation
G: But that 's not That 's display .
H: and A: Oh , OK .
H: and its XML G: That 's different than format .
A: That 's H: Well , um A: W My my u feeling right now on format is you guys have been doing all the work
E: Well E: uh , yeah .
H: Yeah .
A: and whatever you want , we 're happy to live with .
H: OK , excellent .
A: Um ,
D: OK .
A: other people may not agree with that ,
D: So , what n
D: important thing H: Well , it c
A: but Cuz I 'm not actually touching the data ,
E: Right .
A: so I shouldn't be the one to talk .
A: But C: No , I think that 's fine .
D: So a key thing will be that you we tell you
H: Great .
A: Yeah .
D: what it is .
F: " Here 's a mysterious file
D: Uh , we also had F: and "
E: Yeah .
D: We also had the , uh , uh that we were s uh , that you were gonna get us the eight - hundred number
D: and we 're all gonna A: Oh , yeah .
D: we 're gonna call up your Communicator thing
D: and and we 're gonna be good slash bad ,
D: depending on how you define it , uh , users .
C: Now , something that I mentioned earlier to Mari and Liz is that it 's probably important to get as many non - technical and non - speech people as possible
C: in order to get some realistic users .
C: So if you could ask other people to call and use our system , that 'd be good .
C: Cuz we don't want people who already know how to deal with dialogue systems ,