A: two of the ones who who , um , ha had been putting in a lot of hours up to this point and they 're continuing to put in a a lot of hours ,
A: which is wonderful , and excellent work .
A: And so , then , in addition , um , I hired two more today and I 'm planning to h hire a third one with this within this coming week ,
A: but  but the plan is just as , uh , Morgan was saying we discussed this , and the plan right now is to keep the staff on the on the leaner side ,
A: you know ,
A: rather than hiring , like , eight to ten right now ,
F: Mm - hmm .
A: because if the IBM thing comes through really quickly , then , um , we wouldn't wanna have to , uh , you know , lay people off and stuff .
A: So .
A: And this way it 'll I mean , I got really a lot of response for for my notice
A: and I think I could hire additional people if I wish to .
F: Yeah . An - and the other thing is , I mean , in the unlikely event F: and since we 're so far from this , it 's a little hard to plan this way F: in the unlikely event that we actually find that we have , uh , transcribers on staff who are twiddling their thumbs
F: because , you know , there 's , you know , all the stuff that that was sitting there has been transcribed and they 're and they 're faster the the pipeline is faster than  uh , than the generation ,
F: um ,
F: eh , i in in the day e event that that day actually dawns , uh , I I bet we could find some other stuff for them to do .
F: So I I think that , eh , eh , a as we were talking , if we if we hire twelve , then we could , you know , run into a problem later .
A: Oh , yes .
F: I mean , we also just couldn't sustain that forever .
F: But but , um for all sorts of reasons F: but if we hire f you know , f we have five on staff five or six on staff at any given time , then it 's a small enough number so we can be flexible either way .
A: Good .
A: OK .
F: Good .
G: It 'd be great , too , if , um , we can we might need some help again getting the tighter boundaries
G: or some hand to experiment with , um  you know , to have a ground truth for this segmentation work ,
G: which I guess you have some already that was really helpful , and we could probably use more .
E: Mmm , yeah . That was a thing I I planned working on , is , uh , to use the the transcriptions which are done by now , and to to use them as , uh G: Oh .
G: Oh , the new ones
E: Yeah .
G: with the tighter boundaries . Yeah .
E: Yeah .
E: And to use them for for training a or for fo whatever . Yeah .
E: To to create some speech - nonspeech labels out of them ,
E: and Yeah , but that that 's a thing w was w what I 'm just looking into .
G: OK .
A: The the the pre - segmentations are so much are s so extremely helpful .
A: Now there was , uh , I g guess A: So , a couple weeks ago I needed some new ones and it happened to be during the time that he was on vacation A: f for just very few days you were away .
E: Yeah .
A: But it happened to be during that time I needed one ,
A: so I  so I started them on the non - pre - segmented and then switched them over to yours
A: and , um , they , um you know , they always appreciate that when they have that available .
A: And he 's , uh , usually , eh , uh , um Um .
A: So they really appreciate it .
A: But I was gonna say that they do adjust it once in a while .
A: You know , once in a while there 's something like ,
E: Yeah , sure .
A: um , and e Actually you talked to them .
A: Didn't you ?
A: Did you ? Have you ?
E: Yeah .
E: I talked to Helen .
A: And and and she was A: And so , I asked her A: I mean , They 're very perceptive .
A: I really want to have this meeting of the transcribers .
A: I haven't done it yet , but I wanna do that
A: and she 's out of town , um , for a couple of weeks , but I wanna do that when she returns .
A: Um , cuz she was saying , you know , in a in a span of very short period we asked It seems like the ones that need to be adjusted are these these these things ,
A: and she was saying the short utterances , uh , the , um G: Hmm .
E: Mmm .
E: Yeah .
A: you know , I mean , you 're You 're aware of this .
E: Yeah .
A: But but actually i it 's so correct for so much of the time , that it 's an enormous time saver
A: and it just gets tweaked a little around the boundaries .
G: That 's great .
A: So .
A: Um . Yeah . I think it 'd be interesting to combine these .
E: Yeah .
G: Is there actually a record of where they change ?
G: I mean , you can compare , do a diff on the G: just so that we knew A: You could do it .
A: It 's it 's complicated in that um , hhh , i hhh , i
E: Yeah .
E: Actually , when when they create new yeah , new segments or something , it will be , uh , not that easy
E: but hmm . I think one could do that .
G: I mean , if we keep a old copy of the old time marks
E: Yeah .
G: just so that if we run it we know whether we 're which ones were cheating
E: Yeah .
E: Yeah .
G: and
E: That would be great , yeah , to know that .
A: There is a there is one problem with that and that is when they start part way through then what I do is I merge what they 've done with the pre - segmented version .
G: which one would be good .
E: Yeah .
A: So it 's not a pure it 's not a pure condition .
A: Wha - what you 'd really like is that they started with pre - segmented and were pre - segmented all the way through .
G: Mm - hmm .
A: And , um @ @ <comment> I , uh the A: it wasn't possible for about four of the recent ones .
A: But , it will be possible in the future
E: Yeah .
A: because we we 're , um .
G: Mmm , that 's great .
E: It would .
E: Yeah .
G: Yeah . As long as we have a record , I guess , of the original automatic one , we can always find out how well we would do fr from the recognition side by using those boundaries .
E: Yeah .
E: Yeah .
G: Um .
G: You know , a completely non - cheating version .
E: Yeah .
E: Yeah .
G: Also if you need someone to record this meeting , I mean , I 'm happy to for the transcribers G: I could do it , or Chuck or Adam .
A: Thank you .
F: OK .
F: So , uh , u you were saying something about organizing the meeting info ?
D: Yeah . So , um , uh , Jane and Adam and I had a meeting where we talked about the reorganization of the directory structure for all of the meeting F: Did you record it ?
D: No .
D: For all the Meeting Recorder data .
D: We should have .
D: Um . And so we 've got a plan for what we 're gonna do there .
D: And then , Jane also s prepared a um , started getting all of the the meetings organized , so she prepared a  a spreadsheet , which I spent the last couple of days adding to .
D: So I went through all of the data that we have collected so far , and have
D: been putting it into , uh , a spreadsheet with start time , the date , the old meeting name , the new meeting name , the number of speakers , the duration of the meeting , comments , you know , what its transcription status is , all that kind of stuff .
D: And so , the idea is that we can take this and then export it as HTML and put it on the Meeting Recorder web page
G: Oh , great .
D: so we can keep people updated about what 's going on .
D: Um , I 've gotta get some more information from Jane
D: cuz I have some some gaps here that I need to get her to fill in ,
D: but so far , um , as of Monday , the fourteenth , um , we 've had a total number of meeting sixty - two hours of meetings that we have collected .
D: And , um D: Uh , some other interesting things , average number of speakers per meeting is six .
D: Um ,
D: and I 'm gonna have on here the total amount that 's been transcribed so far ,
D: but I 've got a bunch of D: uh , that 's what I have to talk to Jane about , figuring out exactly which ones have have been completed and so forth .
D: But , um , this 'll be a nice thing that we can put up on the the web site and people can be informed of the status of various different ones .
D: And it 'll also list , uh , like under the status , if it 's at IBM or if it 's at ICSI , uh , or if it 's completed or which ones we 're excluding
D: and and there 's a place for comments , so we can , um , say why we 're excluding things and so forth .
D: So .
F: Now would the ones that , um , are already transcribed we h we have enough there that c
F: you know , we 've already done some studies and so forth
F: and F: um , shouldn't we go through and do the business - es u of of having the , um , uh , participants approve it , uh , for approve the transcriptions for distribution and so forth ?
A: Um , interesting idea .
A: In principle , I I would say yes , although I still am doing some the final - pass editing ,
A: trying to convert it over to the master file as the being the channelized version