A: But if you release both B: But , n excuse me , but you could bleep out just the names .
D: She D: No , but she 's saying , from the argument before , she wants to be able to say if someone said " Jose " in their in their thing , and then connect to so to what he said later , then you need it .
B: Right .
B: But in the transcript , you could say , everywhere they said " Jose " that you could replace it with " speaker - seven " .
D: Oh I see .
E: Yeah . But I  I also wanna say that people D: I see .
B: And then it wouldn't meet match the audio anymore .
E: Uh - huh .
B: But it would be still useful for the A: But if both of those are publically available E: Yeah . That 's good .
B: But they B: Right .
D: And th and the other thing is if if if Liz were here , what she might say is that she wants to look if things that cut across between the audio and the dialogue ,
E: Well , you see ? So , it 's complicated .
D: and so , uh ,
E: Mm - hmm . Yeah .
E: I think we have to think about w @ @ <comment> how . I think that this can't be decided today .
D: yeah . Sorry .
B: Yeah , OK , good point .
E: But it 's g but I think it was good to introduce the thing and we can do it next time .
D: Yeah .
D: OK .
B: I didn't think when I wrote you that email I wasn't thinking it was a big can of worms , but I guess it is .
C: OK .
D: Yeah , a lot of these things are .
B: Discourse .
E: Well it Discourse , you know Also I wanted to make the point that that discourse is gonna be more than just looking at a transcript .
B: Yeah , ab absolutely .
E: It 's gonna be looking at a t You know , and prosod prosodic stuff is involved ,
B: Oh , yeah , sure .
E: and that means you 're going to be listening to the audio ,
E: and then you come directly into this confronting this problem .
A: Maybe we should just not allow anybody to do research on discourse ,
E: So .
A: and then , we wouldn't have to worry about it .
C: OK .
E: Yeah , we should just market it to non - English speaking countries .
D: Uh , maybe we should only have meetings between people who don't know one another and who are also amnesiacs who don't know their own name .
C: OK .
B: Did you read the paper on Eurospeech ?
E: We could have little labels .
E: I I I wanna introduce my Reservoir Dogs solution again , which is everyone has like " Mister White " , " Mister Pink " , " Mister Blue " .
A: Mister White .
B: Yeah .
B: Did you read the paper a few years ago where they were reversing the syllables ?
B: They were di they they had the utterances .
B: and they would extract out the syllables and they would play them backwards .
A: But so , the syllables were in the same order , with respect to each other , but the acous
B: Everything was in the same order , but they were the individual syll <comment> syllables were played backwards .
B: And you could listen to it , and it would sound the same .
A: What did it sound like ?
B: People had no difficulty in interpreting it .
B: So what we need is something that 's the reverse , that a speech recognizer works exactly the same on it but people can't understand it .
D: Oh , well that 's there 's an easy way to do that .
D: Jus - jus just play it all backwards .
B: Oh right . The speech recognizer 's totally symmetric , isn't it .
D: What , what does the speech recognizer care ?
B: Ah , anyway .
D: Um ,
E: Oh , do we do digits ? Or ?
E: What do we do ?
D: Let 's do digits .
B: Uh OK , we 'll quickly do digits .
E: Or do we just quit ?
D: Yeah , we we we already missed the party .
D: So .
B: OK .
E: Yeah .
B: OK , go off here .
A: I think it would be fun sometime to read them with different intonations .
A: like as if you were talking like , " nine eight six eight seven ? "
E: Well , you know , in the in the one I transcribed , I did find a couple instances  I found one instance of contrastive stress , where it was like the string had a li So it was like " nine eight two four , nine nine two four " .
A: Oh , really .
A: So they were like looking ahead ,
E: And A: huh ?
E: Well , they differed .
E: I mean , at that that session I did feel like they did it more as sentences .
E: But , um , sometimes people do it as phone numbers . <comment> I mean , I 've I am sort of interested in in And sometimes , you know , I s And I I never know . When I do it , I I ask myself what I 'm doing each time .
B: Yep .
A: Yeah , yeah .
A: Well , I was thinking that it must get kind of boring for the people who are gonna have to transcribe this
E: and I B: Well , except ,
A: They may as well throw in some interesting intonations .
E: I like your question intonation .