A: D: A: Okay .
A: Good afternoon again .
B: A: So we should have our final meeting about the detail designed of detail design of the product of the remote control .
A: Um So here is the agenda for today .
A: Uh uh just going to go quickly through the minutes of the last last uh meeting
A: then we have a p presentation of prototype of you two ,
A: sounds interesting .
A: And we'll have um presentation of evaluation crit criteria by ou our Marketing Experts .
A: Then we'll have to go through finance evaluation of the of the cost of the thing
A: and um hopefully uh we should fit the target o tw of twelve point five uh uh Euro .
A: Okay .
A: So let's go .
A: Uh if I go quickly through the minutes of the last meeting . A: So we went through th uh
A: w we took this following decisions .
A: No L_C_D_ , no speech recognition technology , okay ,
A: we went through a b to a banana look and feel for the remote control .
A: We went through the use of wheels and but buttons .
A: And also the use of a basis station for battery ch charging and uh also to um call the to call the mot mote remote control when it is lost .
A: Okay . Um . Good .
A: So guys let this uh wonderful thing .
C: Okay so we can go to the slides .
A: Oh yeah .
A: Sorry . Um .
C: Yeah .
C: Number three .
C: Oh number two
C: sorry .
A: Which is  C: So final design . Final design .
C: Okay so
C: Michael you can go ahead .
B: Yeah so uh following our decision to uh make a yellow well to make a banana
A: Yeah can you show it to the the camera maybe .
B: remote B: okay so
B: we actually have a C: You can pull it out first , maybe .
B: We've B: well first first of all we made a an attractive base station uh with a banana leaf uh look and feel um and uh
A: Mm-hmm .
A: B: bana sit B: the banana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over
B: and um this is the remote itself ,
B: it's kind of it's it's ergonomic , it fits in the hand uh rather well .
B: We've got the two uh uh scroll wheels here
B: which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one on the right for for the channel
B: and uh underneath we have the uh the turbo button
B: which is in like a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally .
A: What's the use uh of the t turbo button already ?
B: This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you quickly rather th
A: Ah yeah yeah
A: an then you stop when you stop it stops .
B: Yeah .
B: Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops .
B: But normally with uh it will just uh s stay on each station briefly so you can see the the picture .
C: Uh A: Uh-huh .
C: And we we do have one more functionality .
C: If you take the banana as such and uh you press the turbo button , so it switch ons the switch ons the T_V_ .
B: The T_V_ yeah .
A: Which one ?
B: The s the turbo button .
C: The turbo button .
B: So rather than having uh an extra button for um for the on off switch you just use the turbo button .
A: Okay .
C: Additional button .
D: What this button for ?
B: This is a teletext button .
D: Okay .
B: So once you press that then you get teletext
B: and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel as uh A: To navigate it through th through teletext .
D: But if you want to go to page seven hundred ?
B: To navigate yeah .
C: That's right , that's right .
B: Yeah .
A: with the wheel it's easy .
D: How man
B: Well then you can you you have like a little uh number selection thing ,
B: you press the the the teletext button uh to move between uh the fields
B: and then you can just scroll the number back and forth so you have s you go you scroll to seven and then zero zero and then you can uh D: I don't understand it .
D: Can you repeat it ? B: Well you can you can press press the teletext button
C: D: Yeah .
B: and then you then you can you can f
C: So then then both the scroll buttons they are for teletext browsing .
C: And you can tele
D: Ah okay okay . Okay . Okay okay .
C: yeah ,
C: once you press the teletext button then the scroll buttons they are more for teletext , they are no more for channel or vol volume .
B: Mm uh D: Okay .
D: I see . I see . Okay . Okay .
C: Yeah .
B: And this is the uh the infrared uh port .
C: That's right .
B: Also the top of the banana .
C: Yeah .
A: Excellent .
B: So . And then we have
B: in the uh in the base station we have the the button at the front for uh for calling the uh the banana .
A: Calling .
C: Yeah .
A: Excellent .
A: And the the leaves plays the roles of of antennas ?
B: Actually they do .
B: That's that's
A: Oh .
B: yeah that's uh that's form and function in the one in the one uh object .
C: Yeah .
C: So it always means , whatever the rays goes by they they get reflected and then you are having a better coverage .
B: C: It's like antennas .
B: Yeah .
B: So .
D: B: But yeah that's um that's just like B: that's an attractive um base station .
A: Great . B: So .
B: Okay .
A: So , what else ?
C: And for the power source we are having solar cells and rechargeable batteries
C: and this and uh the basis station is going to have the input from the mm power line for for charging the batteries .
D: Is it really weight ?
D: Is it light or C: It is very light .
A: Yeah , they're light .
D: Okay .
B: It's it's uh it's about the weight of a banana .
A: D: Okay .
B: You know , to give you the correct look and feel .
A: C: Yeah .
D: Ok
C: And we have put these different colours so that people don't mistake them mistake it as a banana .
B: D: Okay .
C: Otherwise it's you know a child comes and so D: Yeah yeah yeah , I see . I under I understand .
B: I think a child would try to eat it anyway ,
B: so maybe we should
C: Yeah .
B: consider that .
B: maybe health and safety aspects .
A: Ah yeah .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: C: Oh we didn't think of that yet . Yeah .
B: Yeah .
A: So for the power source , apparently you still you you want to use both solar cells and batteries .
C: Oh yeah that's right .
A: Uh you mean A: okay . So B: I don't really know if the solar cells are actually necessary any more if you have a recharging base station .
A: Yeah ,
A: where are going to A: where are you are you going to place them ?
C: Mm-hmm mm-hmm .
C: It'll It'll be always at top somewhere at there .
B: If I was gonna place them I'd put them on the on the top here since that's like uh the black bit
A: You have enough surface ?
A: You  B: but yeah I don't I really don't think it's necessary to have the solar cells anymore .
C: Yeah because now we are having rechargeable batteries
A: Okay .
C: so that that is .
B: Mm .
A: What will be the autonomy ? Roughly ?
B: The what sorry ?
A: The autonomy .
A: Autonomy .
B: What do you mean ?
A: Uh I mean how long does i how how how long can it be held off a station ?
D: How long the D: how long the bit the batteries long .
B: Ah .
B: Ah .
B: A long time .
A: Yeah .
B: No no no ,
C: Eight to ten eight to ten hours .
A: A long  D: B: it can B: it should be weeks .
C: N most C: no most of the time it's not being used .
A: Yeah ,
A: so it's B: Yeah but y people don't like to put it back in the base station all the time people leave wanna leave it on the couch so C: So when when you are making it on A: It's used only when you C: Mm .
C: Mm-hmm .
C: No eight or eight or ten hours of working .
C: If you are just leaving like that it'll be much longer .
B: Ah , okay .
B: Okay .
A: Yeah .
A: F weeks .
C: Yeah . That's right .
B: Yeah .
A: Right .
A: Next slide ?
C: Yeah .
C: And we are having the speakers regular chip for control .
C: Pricing is was a factor so that's why we have gone for a regular chip only not the advanced chip .
C: And uh that's it .
A: Okay .
A: Okay .
A: Those really sounds very good .
C: That's right .
A: Nothing else to add ?
B: It seems to be falling over .
D: I l yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: I like I like it .
D: Maybe the the thing that convince me the less is the the multifunctional buttons .
D: Looks a bit C: You want to have more functional buttons ?
D: Looks a bit puzzled
D: uh I dunno how to say that .
D: You the the b the buttons change h h their function depending if y it's teletext or not C: You are not convinced .
C: Not not many , we we want to keep it simple .
C: So that this button fo is for teletext which is usually also the case ,
C: that usually there is a teletext button and once you press that , the channel buttons , they baco become the scrolling buttons .
D: And the volume button will will become C: It's up to you , means .
C: Now that A: Well in fact b both will be could be useful , navigating through teletext .
C: Means let's say this this can move the the larger digits and this can move the smaller digits .
B: Or can move between positions in the in the number .
C: That's right .
D: And what about people who want to use digits ?
A: Yeah .
D: Butto real buttons ?
A: Wow .
C: Yeah . So there was there was a constraint that the surface area which we have on this banana on one side because of the shape .
D: C: So we are targeting a segment which is which is just very trendy kind of thing , they they don't care about the buttons any more .
D: Okay .
C: And anyway D: Because have you thought about configuration and all this kind of uh stuff ?
B: It's all automatic .
D: It's all automatic .
B: Yep .
C: A: B: D: Okay .
D: Okay yeah it's fine .
A: Very good uh yeah D: W we are living in a wonderful world . A: you th
A: yeah .
B: Uh . C: A: Bananas everywhere .
C: A: Okay , so  D: Automatically configure . A: D: A: So we have to go through now evaluations .
C: Evalua yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: So your slides are ready ?
D: S
A: Uh you're four I think .
D: Yeah .
A: So this is one , which one is this one ?
D: Yeah .
A: A: D: Okay .
D: I I const
D: I constructed a a list of criteria based on the on the general user requirements .
D: And each criteria is will be evaluated it's uh logical criteria
D: so we must users must say i if it's true or is or if it's false in a in a scale ranging from zero to seven .
C: Why this strange factor of seven ?
D: Because i
D: I'm sorry . Sorry .
C: Usually I have seen that scales are from one to ten .
D: Ah yeah .
D: It's from D: sorry ,
D: it's from one to seven . It's from from one to seven
D: sorry .
D: Because it should be an even it should be an even uh scale ,
C: Okay .
A: Num number C: Okay . Mm-hmm .
D: and five
D: is too short and nine is too long .
C: Okay .
D: I'm a I I'm C: Okay fine , got the idea .
A: So to have in order to have enough granularity D: Sorry ?
A: it's in order to have enough granularity in the evaluation .
D: Yeah yeah .
C: Okay .
D: The variance is mi it's is minimal .
A: Okay .
C: Okay ,
C: okay , great .
D: I'm um answering your question .
C: Okay . Yeah yeah .
D: Okay .
C: Go ahead .
D: And that's the criteria I I found more useful .
D: I think I sh I I could write the criteria in the on the whiteboard ?
C: Mm-hmm . Sure .
D: And we all four could range
C: Okay . Yeah yeah . Yeah .
D: could evaluate the A: Okay .
D: C: So you can say fancy ,
C: handy .
C: Handy .
D: Okay let's let's evaluate if it's fancy or C: Yeah , it's fancy , according to me .
D: Seven but  B: C: A: Yeah , six .
C: Seven . Seven by me .
A: S seven .
A: Six .
D: I would say seven .
C: Okay .
D: It's quite fancy .
C: So you can add seven plus six plus seven plus B: A: No , wait .
B: Yeah uh five .
A: What do you say seven ?
C: Five .
A: Five ?
B: Five ,
B: maybe maybe maybe six
B: it's it's I guess it's A: Okay , six point five .
B: yeah .
A: Handy ?
B: C: Again I'll give seven .
A: Seven .
B: I'd give it a six
B: like I'd I think it's probably more handy than my current remote , 'cause of the scroll wheels
D: Six .
C: Yep .
B: but maybe loses the point for not having you know the extra buttons when you reall if you do need them for some reason
B: but you know you can always use your other
B: remote .
A: So seven , seven ,
C: Seven for me .
A: six ,
B: Yeah .
D: Six .
A: six point five .
A: Functional .
A:  B: C: I'll give five .
A: Four .
D: I would say  C: A: B: Well it depends when you say functional , do you mean it does what we want it to do , or d does what it does , you know , can it make you coffee ?
D: Everything ar
A: Uh for a remote control , does he have all the B: You know .
D: Mm everything B: Yeah .
B: Yeah . A: you could expect .
D: It's compared to the all
C: That's right .
D: remote controls .
C: That's right .
B: That's before C: The standards . What is available in the market off the shelf .
B: Yeah . I have to say four .
D: Actually I don't know what are the r the real specification of a of a universal remote contro
B: Well it's not a universal remote .
C: We B: Remember we're focus we're supposed to focus just on T_V_s .
D: Ah it's not an univer but it's for all kind of T_V_s ?
A: Yeah .
B: Well all T_V_s but only T_ only T_V_s I guess .
A: A: So it's universal but for T_V_s .
A: So s uh four ?
D: Yeah .
C: Five .
A: Five ?
B: Four .
A: Four .
D: Four .
D: Four .
C: So four point two ?
B: Just four .
A: Four .
C: four . D: So four ?
B: Obviously there are some outliers so A:  Okay cool ? Cool device .
C: D: C: There I'll give it seven .
A: D: It means cool features , like new features actually .
C: That's right .
B: B: Which C: For a T_V_ the most important feature which I felt was the locator which is a cool feature .
C: And then the scroll buttons are again cool features .
C: We don't have L_C_D_ for it but that we decided we don't want to have .
A: Yeah . Seven .
D: I would say five .
B: I'll say five .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: Six .
C: Seven .
A: Plus six ,
B: Yeah .
A: I say I said seven .
A: So it's six .
B: S yeah .
D: You said seven ? A: Yeah .
B: 'Cause it's five five seven seven so C: Okay .
B: Uh , okay , definitely easy to use .
C: Definitely seven .
B: Seven .
A: Seven .
A: Seven .
A: And you ?
D: Five . A: Outl you are not lik outlier .
B: C: A: Seven A: Okay okay okay okay .
C: Okay .
D: Sorry ,
D: I have them B: Alright , now here's the sixty million Dollar question ,
A: B: well , twenty five twenty five Euro question .
A: Of course I'll buy the banana . B: What do you what do you guys reckon ?
D: Of cour Of course the most difficult question for the end . C: I'll say five .
A: Well C: I'll say five .
B: Hmm .
A: Twenty five Euros .
A: Cheap .
C: D: I find it quite cheap actually .
B: D: I dunno . If i i it depends , if you live in in Switzerland or you live in A: Yeah ,
A: so the target price is for all Europe , or only for rich countries ?
A: It's more targeting U_K_ or D: I don't know .
D: Wha the initial specifications were for the whole all Europe or B: Uh A: So this is selling costs , not production costs .
D: Yeah this is the the initial specifications .
B: Yeah . Yeah .
A: Yeah yeah sure .
A: Um A: Five .
D: I would say six .
D: It's quite cheap actually .
B: I'd say two .
A: Aw , should be nice in your C: Why ?
D: B: I don't want a banana on my living room table , a banana remote .
C: No but it's really handy actually if you see .
B: It is handy , it's handy , but it it's terrible .
C: It's it's so handy .
C: And then A: It's kitsch .
C: Anyb anybody who comes here  anybody who comes to your home he'll at least ask once what is this .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah , but it's not a positive thing .
C: It's a very positive thing if you see like that .
B: Well , you know , it's it's handy , it's ergonomic , but it's a banana .
A: Well , don't forget well , don't for
A: don't forget who we're targeting also
A: who are f f who are wh
C: Youngsters .
D: Actually maybe A: yeah , youngst youngst
B: Yeah but it says I , I would buy this , so .
A: No well yeah
A: I A: if you would be young .
D: Yeah A: Not telling that you are young .
C: B: No , it's I . I would buy A: Li li like a teenager for instance .
A: Okay
A: you're you're crazy teenager and you like fun things .
C: You want to flaunt .
A: Yeah .
B: C: You with your girlfriend or something .
A: Yeah , you want to show the beautiful banana you have . B: S s
C: Or might be it does some other kind of thing but B: Still I I'd say two .
B: I don't think I at any stage in my life I would want a banana remote control , really .
C: Uh yeah , crazy .
A: Okay so you s you give B: I can say , maybe there is a market for it , I dunno .
A: oh yeah yeah I know I know .
C: A: So you say two .
B: Yeah .
C: I say five .
A: F I d I say five .
A: You say ?
D: I change the question . A: So what's the new question ?
C: And you have saved it ?
D: So yeah upload the C: You'll have to reload .
A: Uh yeah , I think so .
A: B: Okay , so , it depends if uh D: Yeah it's two different situations
D: . If you really need an universal remote control or if you would change your remote control for a n for a new one .
A: Yeah that's two different question .
B: If I had t if I had to spend twenty five Euro , if that was like my limit , maybe I would buy it .
B: Because the other twenty five Euro remote controls are probably gonna look
C: They're not going to be as A: Ugly .
B: worse than a banana . D: C: And they they might not be a as easy as this B: And it B: yeah this is gonna f you know handy to use .
C: yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: So ? What now ? What range ?
C: S
A: I stick to five .
C: I go slightly up .
B: Although it still has it still has the word of course at the beginning C: Six .
D: Six .
B: so I dunno . Um .
A: W we have six , five B: I'd give it I'd give it a
A: Three