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A:  we have presentations .
A: So first , it's your turn .
C: B: Mine . Oh , great .
A: Yeah . Isn't it amazing . C: Huh . D: Yeah .
D: Very interesting .
B: Uh D: C: B: A: Industrial Designer .
A: Interface concept .
B: Yes , well uh
B: let's uh talk about the interface uh concept .
B: Uh , first I'll uh I'll uh discuss the buttons we just chose ,
B: uh show you some samples , uh
B: uh discuss some colours and design maybe , already .
B: And uh my personal preferences .
B: Well we chose the power button to switch the television on and off .
B: The bu uh
B: the mute button to switch the volume on and o on and off .
B: The channels buttons , one to nine ,
B: and uh off uh uh
B: zero to nine ,
B: and the uh button to choose uh higher channels than nine .
B: Uh the volume and channel quadrants ,
B: uh left and right , up and down arrows , to uh do the volume and channel .
B: And the menu menu button to man manipulate the L_C_D_ uh display .
B: Um , I found some uh interesting uh uh samples . Examples .
C: B: Um , well uh what's pretty standard is uh that it's that they're all pretty uh uh high uh D: Large .
B: Yeah . Yeah .
D: A lot a lot of buttons buttons .
B: Large and and and pretty thin and uh and long .
B: Um , power buttons are mostly at the top
B: uh left or right .
B: Um , well we see the the the same uh arrows .
B: Like there .
B: And uh B: Yeah , well arrow b buttons can be blue .
B: And what's interesting is the the the icons on the buttons .
B: Some buttons have icons like the play and stop ,
B: but we don't use that .
B: But uh , these we we have to choose the right icons , or or letters .
B: Uh this is the V_ for volume , but they're both uh a V_ .
A: B: So it's it's not really very uh clear what's the function of that .
D: Yeah .
B: Um B: Yeah . So , that's A: Can you go back one page ?
A: For the uh menu , what do we use for that ?
B: Uh , well A: We don't have buttons for the menu .
A: Or we may have to use channel of the volume and channel .
B: Yeah .
B: I thought that was our uh idea .
A: Okay .
B: So , uh how A: But uh A: You have to put it on the B: Like this .
A: Yeah .
B: Or or this .
B: And that the menu button is okay .
A: Yeah but , has to be clear that you can use the arrows .
B: Yeah , okay .
D: Yes .
B: Uh , so the B: The icons on the arrows , as well , you mean .
A: Mm-hmm . Yes . The second one .
B: Yeah .
B: Uh , well that's something to uh think about . A: Okay .
C: Uh , maybe I'll have something in my uh presentation .
C: And you will see it .
B: Okay .
D: Okay . B: Um , well I don't I don't know if we have to discuss this already , or in the next uh meeting .
C: B: But uh , as we have to uh to to design the the case and the whole uh remote control in our uh our our corporate uh company uh uh colours and the logo , I would uh recommend a yellow case .
B: Uh , round edges .
B: The logo at the bottom .
B: And uh , well maybe each each uh set of buttons uh has uh has his own colour .
B: So , it's good .
B: Uh , recognisable .
B: K so , I think .
A: Not too much colours .
B: Uh , no . Not too much .
B: But uh A: No , it's not flower power .
B: No , no , no .
B: But this has to be has to be trendy
B: and uh and   A: S okay .
B: Uh , yeah so good uh good icons on the buttons , and uh and big buttons is my uh personal uh opinion .
A: Okay .
B: That was that .
A: Thank you .
A: So , you're next .
C: I'm next , okay .
C: C: Yes . No .
C: Here we go .
D: A:  C: Uh , at first we will uh I will f uh say something about what younger people want ,
D: Okay .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: C: our uh group w uh w uh we want to uh sell our remote controls to .
C: And then , I'll discuss what my opinion is about the costs , about uh what battery is in it , what kind of buttons also .
C: First uh , the younger people , they want like soft mat uh materials and primary colours .
C: Like , totally yellow , totally red .
C: Uh , so it's visible .
C: Uh , the shapes are curved and round ,
C: like uh you also said .
C: Maybe it's nice to uh get a remote control not like all the other ones , straight and uh flat and long .
C: But to give him the shape of your hand , so you it's easier to use or something like that .
C: But that's just an idea .
C: And then , I'll have to discuss about the costs uh of all the things for the remote control .
C: The battery , there are few options .
C: Uh , I think the best option is to use uh the basic battery .
C: So , everybody can buy it uh at the at the supermarket .
C: Or use uh a k uh kinetic battery like uh within a watch .
C: When you uh shake it a few times , it it's loaded .
C: Uh , the the form of the remote control , I think it's also nice have it curved .
C: And maybe like it's hand-shaped .
C: Uh , so uh you take it here in your hand and here are the buttons .
C: Uh material , you use plastic . Hard plastic
C: uh because uh it won't have to burst uh like in the in one time .
C: And also rubber
C: because the younger people like that ,
C: what we see in the research .
C: Uh the push-buttons .
C: We have one new thing uh discovered .
C: It's a scroll push uh thing like a mouse .
C: Maybe it's uh easy to use uh for the channels .
C: When you want to go m move up , you just scroll up
C: and click on the button , if you wanna see the next , uh if you wanna see that channel .
C: And also for the mouse , uh for the volume , it's also uh easy to use .
C: Just scroll a bit up , scroll a bit down .
C: And that's also easy just w when you have a thing like this , and you get it here .
C: You can do it with your thumb .
C: And with your l left hand you can uh push the buttons
D: Hmm .
C: uh if you push uh channel one , you can see channel one .
C: The electrics um with a scroll push uh button , we must use regular uh chips .
C: There are also uh simple chips .
C: They are uh cheaper .
C: Um , but then we have just a basic uh uh remote control ,
C: and I think there are a lot of those uh things , and people won't buy it any more .
C: They have seen enough of it .
C: And you have also advanced um chips .
C: But that's with the L_C_D_ uh screen .
C: And the costs will increase a lot more .
C: And I think our budget is too low to use and an L_C_D_ ,
C: and the chip who is more expensive .
C: And maybe it's also then uh thoughtful if we u uh use uh as um different kind of uh shapes for the for remote control ,
C: that we then use the primary colours .
C: Like , you get a yellow uh remote control , red one , blue one , et cetera .
C: You have any more questions about this ?
C: I think the main thing is we look at the costs .
D: Yep .
A: Hmm .
C: And not too basic ,
C: not a basic remote control , who everybody already has .
D: Yeah .
D: But , thi i uh D: This is with an L_C_D_ ? No ,
C: Not with an L_C_D_ .
D: not .
A: No , isn't .
C: No .
A: But the L_C_D_ is easy when you use the scroll uh buttons .
A: Then you can scroll , you see what number , and then you push .
C: Yeah .
C: But then , what I say , the costs will uh get a lot higher .
A: But then it's not easy to use scroll uh wheel .
C: Th then you'll see it on the television .
A: If you don't A: Hmm , yes . But then . Yeah , then you go one down one up .
A: When you scroll .
C: Yeah
C: but l when you see a menu uh on the television , it's like you see uh one to twenty , you go uh uh s scroll up , and push number tw twenty .
A: Yeah
A: but like we said before , it has to be used on every television .
A: So you may not be uh C: A: No .
A: The television must do that .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: So C: Yeah , I think the younger people will have newer televisions , which can provide our uh remote control .
A: Yeah
A: but young people have to have all their uh room .
A: And mostly they are smaller .
C: Yes .
A: So C: But that won't be a problem . I think .
A: Most the times that are not advanced televisions .
C: No ,
D: C: but then we'll get to the regular uh remote controls .
C: And I think , what I said , everybody has them uh has them already .
C: And they go to a uh supermarket and buy them uh for two Euros .
C: Uh , and ge and get the most cheapest uh thing .
C: And I think we must look further to uh to devel d develop something news .
A: Okay .
D: Uh , can you give an indication in b uh in the cost difference between uh the chip with L_C_D_ or without ?
C: I got it on my screen and it was uh higher .
C: But I don't know uh how much higher . D: 'Cause it D: I think if we have an L_C_D_ , it will also sell a lot better .
A: That's important .
C: That's true .
D: And that might uh bring back the costs uh C: But then we'll C: I think we must discuss who uh what will be better . If we have a better shape of the um remote control , or better options on it .
C: With a scroll menu , a w scroll thing , and a L_C_D_ . And then a flat um remote control .
C: Or , a more hand-shaped remote control , with scroll , without L_C_D_ .
A: Yeah .
A: Maybe you can look how how much it is for the L_C_D_ .
C: I can uh look on my uh  A: It's very important .