B: the D: Yeah .
A: But uh th
B: But but T_V_s don't have all uh uh buttons . Uh C: No ,
C: so we we should use something else .
D: And you D: Yeah ,
A: Yeah ,
D: and usually A: because we do not have a a a a a home um B: But I believe you will have an C: We do not control the T_V_ set so well .
D: And even if the T_V_ set would have such a button , uh you would have to walk to your T_V_ ,
C: Yes , m yes .
C: S
C: and we b we want to make so it's  is easy as possible for our customers ,
D: and it's A: Okay .
C: so we should think about A: So
A: what about the clapping technique ?
A: Um because you se
B: I'm convinced uh Sebastian will uh find uh one solution for us .
C: It's quite complicated .
C: Well ,
C: it's quite complicated .
D: And b
C: Because how can you separate the clapping sound from other sounds .
A: Well ,
A: you see it a lot in in light uh lightning uh uh C: Yes , yes .
C: Well , basically
C: the characteristics uh the characteristics of clapping is just an increase in the volume , the amplitude of the sound ,
A: Yeah , a peak . Yeah .
C: which is uh generated a few times within a uh certain period of time .
A: Yeah .
C: But there are many other sounds uh which are exactly the same from the point of view from a remote control .
D: So if if you'd be watching a movie , it would constantly beep .
A: Yeah , that's true .
C: Yes ,
D: C: so we don't want that .
B: But we can have just uh uh a home stat uh f a base station next to the T_V_ . Just a little antenna or uh something .
C: Maybe we can C: Something like that .
B: Well
C: Well ,
B: if you lost th
C: is there not something f something more easily A: Well uh B: I don't think people would bother walking to the T_V_ and press that button because they lost the their remote .
C: Well ,
C: I don't think uh .
B: Uh that's just uh C: No ,
C: and y the
C: the most important thing for people is that there's a central point to which they can go and uh b uh perform a a some kind of uh . And then uh the remote control uh reports itself ,
A: Yeah .
C: so
C: w we should use have C: uh we should use something like that .
C: You do not want another device , which can be uh everywhere in the house , which you have to find first before you can find your remote control .
B: just a base station next to the T_V_ is the best possibility .
C: Yes , something like that .
C: But that will be very costly , I think .
C: So that's not a good idea .
A: Yeah ,
A: m maybe um w we uh we do agree on on the thing that the remote should have such a function , if it's possible within the costs and all that kind of things .
D: Yeah .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: Um maybe Sebastian should have uh a detailed look later on and um come up with a solution ,
C: I will .
B: Yeah .
C: Yes .
A: because that's his his field of expertise .
C: Yes .
C: But um before I do that I w I want to warn you that uh by implementing this kind of a function the technical design will become more complicated
A: Mm-hmm .
C: um and it will become more costly also .
A: Yep .
C: Because there will be additional components which which uh will be used .
C: And there are some implepe imp
B: And do we even uh prefer the sound above the the LEDs , the lightning uh function ?
C: Well ,
C: I I think so ,
C: because um when you have a p newspaper over your remote control , you cannot see it .
B: It's a unique item uh C: So A: Yeah , it's a distinction in the market .
B: It will be an a unique feature of our remote control .
A: It's a different D: Yeah .
A: exactly . It's an uni an unique feature ,
B: Yeah .
A: and um I think um it's worth um uh looking and and probably more i interesting than uh than the lights .
B: And just about uh the user interface , I came up with um an easy remote control and an advanced remote control .
A: Yeah .
B: What should we choose in in design ?
A: Yeah .
A: Well , um
A: according to Ruud , um people do not use um all the extra features very very often .
B: Well , the extra functions .
A: So D: I have the numbers r I have the numbers right here .
A: Okay .
D: Well , t uh
D: we won't support teletext
D: which which was the third-most the second-most used function .
B: Used option .
A: Okay . C: Okay . A: Well ,
A: we we do have a wise board ,
A: so I'm not questioning that . D: B: D: Uh well yeah ,
D: channel selection is obviously the most important .
A: Yeah .
A: Okay , so
A: on the relevance scale uh the channel selection , the volume selection and the teletext .
D: So D: Yeah . Yeah .
A: Well ,
A: we skip that .
D: So B: Well ,
A: Okay .
B: so it just th the basic functions .
B: And we don't have to use it for D_V_D_ players uh and all kind of stuff .
C: No , no .
A: No .
B: So  D: Nope .
C: So
C: that's out of the question .
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: So B: Just through uh the easy uh design . We can make uh a nice design when when there's not mu uh much buttons in it .
A: Uh uh uh I think we should go for the easier one .
C: I think also .
C: Yes . Well ,
B: So C: we should save costs uh by not implementing a lot of functions
A: No .
C: and uh the money that we can save from that we should use for uh having a nice design and uh thinking about the user interface
A: Yeah .
C: and A: Okay ,
A: Ruud , how do you feel about that ?
A: Uh do you agree ,
A: do you think the market would would respond to uh a simple D: Uh well
D: if we um include other uh innovative functions  uh then they uh might ,
A: Mm-hmm .
D: 'cause young people uh like new features .
A: Mm yeah .
D: So C: Yeah , that's right .
A: Okay , so
C: Mm .
A: this is is kind of uh B: Uh just a few buttons , trendy design , nice lightning effects wh and the sound .
C: Okay .
C: Well ,
C: is it C: maybe there's another possibility .
C: You can make it look like an easy s piece of equipment , but it's quite elaborated ,
C: uh because it has many functions .
A: Yeah .
C: Maybe it's more important to make the make it look like a very uh friendly , easy to catch piece of equipment ,
C: but um nevertheless A: But but are we not in in the in the manual uh A: I mean if you have few buttons , no display , um I mean uh I guess it's l it's working with with a shift functions and um one button can uh
C: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .
C: Ok like that .
C: Well ,
C: I was more thinking about a more elaborate way of controlling , by by these kinds of sticks or something like that .
C: I don't know if if it's user-friendly .
C: That's your field of expertise .
B: Yeah ,
A: But but how does how does the remote uh report uh r uh give back to the user w in what state it is ?
B: I don't know yet . A: Because we do not implement uh a user history .
C: Mm-hmm .
C: There's no , but there's no way to do that ,
C: because we cannot implement that kind of the system .
A: I know , but but if we use uh like a stick , for example , um C: W
C: Mm-hmm .
C: Well ,
C: maybe we can use a light for that .
C: When you move the stick to a to a position , maybe uh a light next to it can lit up .
C: So you know I've just uh pushed the button , or I changed the channel or t uh turned up the volume .
C: Something like that .
D: And if you use that stick for volume control and channel uh selection , you have the m two most important functions in one uh button .
A: Yeah .
C: Yes .
A: Uh and we could have other buttons for the for the advanced uh functions .
B: But does it uh I
B: then should n just use uh i instead of the stick , uh like many cell phones , just a round
B: m
B: well ,
B: should we just use a A: Yeah ,
A: draw draw it on the board .
B: Um it's already uh B: oh , we have a blank .
B: Oh .
C: Oh
C: yeah , something like that .
C: It's not really a stick ,
B: It's just an easy uh way of of a round button what which can be pushed in four directions . Instead of a stick .
C: but C: Yes . Yes .
B: A stick is v vulnerab vulnerable when it's falling down
C: Hmm .
A: Yeah , it can break down .
B: or uh
C: Yes , yes .
D: Yeah .
B: just a round uh button should be the trick , I think .
C: And C: Yes ,
C: and this also looks more fancy , I think .
C: I think it it will attract uh more uh uh public , I think .
B: Yeah .
D: A younger uh Huh .
C: But you're the marketing man .
D: And it's also quite easy to use ,
D: so it'll it uh attract younger people because well new ,
D: and it might attract older people because it's easy to use .
B: Geez .
B: Well ,
B: volume and something uh like that . A: Uh-huh . C: B: The programme up and down . D: A: Okay , yeah .
B: And the vol
B: yeah ,
B: the pen doesn't uh really does what I want .
C: Okay , that's good .
A: Okay ,
A: but w we still we're still in the question of uh um uh putting in advanced options .
A: Um Ruud just told us um the market is interested in some advanced uh new techniques .
A: Um however , uh keeping it simple is is important for the costs and all all those kind of things .
A: We need to find a balance between uh the advanced techniques and and the user-friendliness .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: But I think our our next step to look at is just that .
B: So I don't think it's um we have something to do .
B: Uh we can't discuss it right now ,
B: because n no one of us have has the information to discuss about that , I think .
A: Um well ,
A: for A: we do have to uh decide this this meeting .
B: Yes ?
A: Yeah .
A: We need to um have the uh the user function uh the functions decided and um uh our target audience .
B: Mm-hmm .
C: Okay .