Project Manager: Yes . Well , look at the costs at this point .
Industrial Designer: My god .
Project Manager: I had to fit it in .
Marketing: It has to go to twelve , right ?
Project Manager: I twelve and a half .
Marketing: Twelve and a half .
Project Manager: So Well what costs a lot ? The sample spea costs four .
Industrial Designer: The what ?
Project Manager: The sample speaker ,
Industrial Designer: The Marketing: Out .
Project Manager: the s sensor .
Marketing: That's easy . Kick it out .
Project Manager: Kick it out .
User Interface: The what ?
Project Manager: We have to go to twelve and a half .
Marketing: Yeah . The speaker .
Project Manager: The speaker costs far , by far the most .
User Interface: Oh .
Industrial Designer: Yeah w tha that's uh that's a bit an optional option .
Marketing: That's some wrong info , man . Project Manager: It it isn't worth it .
Industrial Designer: No . No , d th No .
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: We could make two different versions , one with and one without .
Marketing: It's uh Project Manager: But for this  Marketing: It's just extra . Kick it out .
Project Manager: So , zero .
User Interface: Project Manager: Then we go to fourteen point six .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Well the titanium I don't want to lose actually .
Marketing: What more ?
Industrial Designer: No .
Marketing: Batteries are uh quite Project Manager: L_C_ three ? Yeah hand dynamo ? Y t come on ,
Marketing: Uh no , no no no .
Project Manager: w a remote control has a battery .
User Interface: Um Industrial Designer: N Uh well we have a bit of a problem I think .
User Interface: Well well why why why should we use a advanced chip ?
Industrial Designer: Because uh Project Manager: Well be for the L_C_D_ uh you had said .
Industrial Designer: the L_C_D_ screen . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah ?
Marketing: Hmm .
User Interface: Can't we do that with a regular chip ?
Industrial Designer: No .
User Interface: Why not ?
Industrial Designer: Because uh that uh y Project Manager: Well what what's the difference between simple and regular ?
Industrial Designer: because my information says it .
Project Manager: What's the difference between a simple and a regular chip ?
Industrial Designer: Huh ?
User Interface: Yeah . Regular is normal .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: And simple ?
Industrial Designer: Uh well yeah I I read something about it , but User Interface: Simple .
Project Manager: Nothing .
User Interface: Elementary .
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: Well ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
Project Manager: Your part .
Industrial Designer: I I read something about it , but it wasn't very clear . I d I didn't in include it in my report .
Project Manager: What happens if we do Industrial Designer: Single Well you have to use a chip . So Well you have to use the advanced chip , if you have the L_C_D_ screen .
Project Manager: How much do we win ? One .
User Interface: We we we Why ?
Project Manager: User Interface: We have very little options furthermore , for the Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But if you have a regular chip , you can't have the L_C_D_ screen .
User Interface: Uh well we have to put that in .
Marketing: Yeah , we need to have the the L_C_D_ screen .
Industrial Designer: That that's a fact . Uh Project Manager: Well , we could say , well this special colour , that isn't that that isn't there ,
Marketing: No  Project Manager: because the the fronts they will buy it . The special colour .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but it's only one half .
Marketing: Yeah , but  User Interface: Nah .
Industrial Designer: Uh it d it doesn't Marketing: No , that's n It's not relevant .
Project Manager: Yeah ,
User Interface: Yeah , you must change the chip uh back .
Project Manager: then you s then you only have one half left .
User Interface: You must change the chip back , Nils .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Uh yeah .
Industrial Designer: But we d Then we have to lose the L_C_D_ screen .
Marketing: No ,  Then the whole concept is uh
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I know but that's what my information says . I di I didn't uh put uh the advanced chip in there for fun . User Interface: Hmm . No we oh  Marketing: You You can make you can make it cheaper .
Industrial Designer: You have to use it .
Marketing: But if you don't sell
Industrial Designer: Marketing: Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: You you we have an advanced chip-on-print ,
Industrial Designer: User Interface: and we have an L_C_ display . I think that's a bit double .
Project Manager: Yeah ? No , User Interface: Y we don't need both .
Project Manager: the advanced chip is needed to have an L_C_D_ display .
Industrial Designer: For the L_C_D_ screen . Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: Says .
Project Manager: Says , his Uh that was in the second meeting , I think .
Industrial Designer: Well uh and what do they mean with curves uh again ? Because we you have uncurved  Project Manager: Well I I did single curve to Well you said s double curved ,
User Interface: I ?
Project Manager: uh he ,
User Interface: ?
Project Manager: because uh I thought it's a b a bit cheaper already .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: We can also make it flat .
Industrial Designer: Well Marketing: No
Industrial Designer: But what what did what do n
Marketing: no no no .
Project Manager: But Industrial Designer: Sorry , but  What do they mean with the curves ?
Project Manager: Curved ?
Industrial Designer: Is th Is this a curve ?
Project Manager: Yes , that's curved .
Industrial Designer: One curve ?
Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , this is actually two curves , yeah .
Project Manager: No , it's one curve .
Industrial Designer: It's how you It's how you look at it .
User Interface: One curve . Project Manager: One curve , simple .
Industrial Designer: Well then we have a huge problem I think .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: W t we can never get uh below the twelve and a half .
Project Manager: We have a big financial problem .
User Interface: Well we make it more expensive to buy .
Project Manager: Well , then we have two dollars less profit . Come on , if we if we if we make this fifty million , they won't hesitate to uh congratulate us , so uh   User Interface: Industrial Designer: Marketing: If if you make people brand-aware , they are willing to pay more . But Because we we use a brand at the front and uh I dun at the back . If you have uh lots of uh marketing people might buy .
Industrial Designer: But uh I User Interface: Yeah or we could replace it Marketing: If you if you make it cool to have Project Manager: By the way , we also have this one .
Marketing: Oh , that's just great .
Project Manager: Oh , costs nothing . That's nice . Marketing: Oh , alright . Industrial Designer: Hey but uh I think you'll agree that uh that we that now we have this uh screen , it's it's very uh not practical to ha to consider this after we have designed the entire thing .
Project Manager: Plastic is  Yes , but I just got it .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: Well that's pretty uh l
User Interface: Why why don't we replace the titanium with uh plastic coloured titanium ,
Marketing: That is pretty stupid . Industrial Designer: N not very practical . Well User Interface: uh titanium-coloured plastic ?
Project Manager: Who ?
Marketing: Project Manager: You want to dump the titanium ?
User Interface: Yeah well if we uh we we have to get cheaper .
Project Manager: And make all plastic , then we ha then we're there .
Industrial Designer: But I'm n I don't agree .
User Interface: But then we we've got to uh run through the eval evaluation process again .
Industrial Designer: I think Project Manager: Th then you have a ugly , stupid , l ugly looking , dumb remote that that no-one would buy .
User Interface: Ah no no .
Marketing: User Interface: It's not ugly looking . The looks remain the same .
Project Manager: No , I don't think so .
User Interface: Well , I do think so .
Industrial Designer: I think the titanium just uh provided the the tough look and the and the Marketing: Y
Project Manager: Yes . And the feel ,
User Interface: feel .
Project Manager: and th that it is strong , and Industrial Designer: And also the the older people will like it because of that . And because i
Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
Industrial Designer: Alright it's not our target audience , but it's it's useful if it's uh important for old people .
Project Manager: We still we had to focus to get more people from the younger group ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: but not lose the one Industrial Designer: I think the titanium is very important .
User Interface: Yeah alright but then we we won't get there .
Industrial Designer: Yeah we have a problem , yeah . W But you can better , yeah , dump the L_C_D_ screen then .
User Interface: We can dump the special colour . We l we use plastic . And plastic is already in colour I think .
Marketing: I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen .
Industrial Designer: Well what else ?
User Interface: No , nothing .
Industrial Designer: W I mean uh Marketing: Or you shou It's User Interface: Amen .
Marketing: Or change the titanium or dump the L_C_D_ screen . But I think you could better change uh titanium to hard a hard kind of plastic looking like titanium than lose the L_C_D_ screen .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Because you have lots of functions in it too .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , well yeah . Alright .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Why can't I User Interface: But Industrial Designer: I agree with that . So we u we use uh Unfortunately . Um . Titanium-coloured plastic .
Project Manager: I'll put in the report we that we think that fourteen point one is the l m lowest price you can make a remote for that's trendy d these days .
Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
Industrial Designer: So titanium-coloured plastic for the back .
Project Manager: I I'll talk to the managers . User Interface: No no no no . W Titanium stays there .
Project Manager: Titanium , I thi I think this this is this is e really good re remote . But  User Interface: Industrial Designer: Yeah this is good ,
Marketing: Osl Industrial Designer: but it it's not good enough . So we have to use the ditch the titanium , I'm afraid .
Project Manager: Ah those those account managers , what do th d what do they know ?
User Interface: Well Project Manager: Come on . Riot . User Interface: Industrial Designer: What do we Well what do we know ? All we want is a is a fancy design but we don't really consider the costs . So Project Manager: Yes , yes .
User Interface: No because we did not know anything about it .
Project Manager: One and a half Euros . Hmm ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah al alright , yeah .
Marketing: If you don't have the money , you can't make it .
Industrial Designer: But we have to deal with it now . So Marketing: So s If you don't have the money , you can't make it . So this is too expensive .
Project Manager: So ?
Industrial Designer: So Marketing: So we have to make it cheaper .
Industrial Designer: Titanium gone and add plastic .
User Interface: Yeah , but then we've got money left .
Marketing: Right .
Industrial Designer: And on plastic times two and then we uh are there ?
Project Manager: Well , no it's just uh all plastic .
Industrial Designer: No Project Manager: Well alright . Huh .
Industrial Designer: No yeah well Project Manager:  Industrial Designer: Oh six . Marketing: It's just free , man .
Industrial Designer: A lot of plastic , yeah . Project Manager: Four . So Industrial Designer: No two for the to make it clear .
Project Manager: But then we can add the special colour ? As we have money over uh left . User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: And we still have money left .
User Interface: Yeah . W
Marketing: Project Manager: What do we want , guys ?
Industrial Designer: I want gold plating .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: No no um  Marketing: Yeah right . I want chrome . User Interface: Well I think uh the case is double curved then .
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: Because you y have that curve
Industrial Designer: We have we have to uh fill User Interface: and you have that curve .
Project Manager: Y Oh no . Marketing: Well , th that that is the problem .
User Interface: Yeah well uh Industrial Designer: W we ha Project Manager: Alright .
Industrial Designer: No no no , but th that's not f um Project Manager: Safe .
User Interface: Well y we have curves in all directions .
Industrial Designer: Well you can you can double curve , if you don't have titanium . And that we dropped ,
Project Manager: So alright .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: so it it can be done . But it's pretty funny . We we do want to reach twelve point five . But it isn't bad to to to stay at eleven .
Project Manager: Finance ?
User Interface: I mean , this this ain't titanium , but it looks like it .
Project Manager: Well , guys ?
Industrial Designer: We get more salary , if we make if cheaper than twelve uh twelve and a half .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Guys ?
User Interface: Project Manager: We have to dump our titanium ,
Marketing: Shoot .
Project Manager: and we'll hate the managers for that , but now we're going to evaluate our project , of uh project ,
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Objection .
User Interface: Pro project . Project Manager:  project . Well , satisfaction on for example , are we satisfactory about our creativity ?
Industrial Designer: Well I can't get no satisfaction , but uh  Marketing: Project Manager: User Interface: Industrial Designer: I think it's uh Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best , yeah .
User Interface: Project Manager: I think it's terrible that we got uh those costs at the last moment .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , me too .
Project Manager: That's really bad . But that that that's that , yeah that's a reason ,
Industrial Designer: Its it's uh ridiculous actually , but User Interface: And uh unrealistic .
Project Manager: but also for our creativity . We had um nice design , and then you get the cost , and you had to dump all your creativity .
User Interface: Well we we we used our creativity ,
Marketing: Right .
User Interface: but we just had to adapt it to the costs .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: Which isn't very practical ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface:  Nei . Uh no . Industrial Designer: but that's the way .
Project Manager: Well , alright .
Industrial Designer: Uh-huh . Project Manager: Uh leadership next .
User Interface: Terrible . Project Manager: Uh teamwork ? Marketing: Leadership .
User Interface: Leadership ? Well Marketing: Well it's  It was very democratic . Project Manager: Uh yeah well I think so also .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: I al I I've uh filled that in in a the questionnaires uh each time , so User Interface: Marketing: Yeah yeah .
Project Manager: Well the managers were terrible . So , with their all their useless requirements .
User Interface: Project Manager: But o alright , the teamwork ?
Industrial Designer: Well uh they they didn't think of the requirements .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: It's the requirements of the user , uh I guess .
Project Manager: No they said , oh we won't d uh we won't uh use teletext , uh we won't use the D_V_D_ .  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications .
User Interface: Project Manager: Alright , teamwork ? Well great I think .
Marketing: Well User Interface: Right yeah . Marketing: Yeah , think so too .
Project Manager: Uh well what do you , what did you think about the SMARTboard ?
Industrial Designer: It was a complete disaster .
Marketing: Yeah , I don't like it . Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: No Uh it it it uh it is uh Project Manager: Well User Interface: No , that's a SMARTboard , and that's a digital pen .
Project Manager: It's also a It's both the SMARTboards .
User Interface: Or not ?
Marketing: Industrial Designer: No it's other way around . That's the SMARTboard .
Project Manager: I liked this SMARTboard ,
Industrial Designer: That's the digital panel .
Project Manager: but I hated that one .
Marketing: This this this isn't a SMARTboard , right ?
Project Manager: Well it's both a SMARTboard .
Industrial Designer: That's that's the smart
Marketing: Yeah right . B but you User Interface: Oh they're both SMARTboards . Marketing: This is just a large t large television .
Project Manager: No .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: A televi Yeah .
Marketing: You u you use the  Project Manager: It's both a SMARTboard , but this one is used for a desktop , and that one is used to to draw .
Marketing: Yeah , but you ca This is just a beamer function . And here , on this one , you can uh draw the pictures and things like that . But Project Manager: Well , wi w which one did you like ?
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Yeah . Left or right ? Marketing: That one .
Project Manager: That one . User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: That one isn't accurate . It just doesn't work .
Project Manager: Yeah . User Interface: But I I think this is meant by the digital pen .
Marketing: You can  Project Manager: Yes . Th that is so .
Industrial Designer: Well I didn't use uh Marketing: Yeah , but I think there's a big distinction between the these th
Project Manager: We're now talking about the SMARTboards .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I don't need a SMARTboard .
User Interface: Well we we used that one ,
Industrial Designer: Nei It it's much m User Interface: and we needed it . I think .
Marketing: Yeah , but give me a beamer . That's uh that's much uh much cheaper .
User Interface: Yeah alright , but Project Manager: Or install a laptop to a beamer , or have this one standing here in an I I like it .
Marketing: Right .
Project Manager: Okay , alright .
User Interface: Yeah I like that one , but that one is terrible .
Industrial Designer: But uh you can uh I I sent it about three times now . Uh a green uh board with uh chalk is much more useful than that thing .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , it is .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The simple uh sch school board .
Project Manager: So Marketing: I agree .
Project Manager: And uh the digi the digital pen ? Did uh did you like that one ?
Industrial Designer: I I didn't use it .
Marketing: No .
Industrial Designer: I wrote things down but I didn't import it into my laptop .
Project Manager: I used it uh just to check it out , but uh  Industrial Designer: That's the  Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: You you can't send that to anyone , because you you've scrabbled something on a page for yourself ,
User Interface: Marketing: Yeah . It isn't practical . Right .
Project Manager: and then you're going to send it , yeah . Well , no .
Industrial Designer: W But also y you write things down . And i you can also bring your your your note block .
Marketing: Your notepad . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So what's the what's the th what's the point of importing it into Project Manager: It's , no , it it's useless .
User Interface: Well I I drew this . Mm . And I made a mistake . But it it would have been uh useful , if I I could show this on the screen .
Marketing: Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Yeah alright . For drawings ,
Project Manager: For drawings , yes .
User Interface: Yeah for drawings .
Industrial Designer: but not for personal notes . I think that's not very User Interface: N notes mm .
Industrial Designer: Uh I mean you can bring your paperwork along and p Well of course if you have a lot of paper Project Manager: But Marketing: Yeah , it might be useful for drawings . I I agree on that .
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: If you've If you've  Project Manager: But for notes , it i you you have to put that in a strict Uh you have to put a name , standard date , and all those things . And notes uh for a meeting are very strict . So if you uh were to write them down for yourself , and then put that in your computer , you still have to type it over to Word .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Project Manager: So it doesn't d doesn't have any  Marketing: Yeah , right .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Yeah I understand .
Marketing: That Stefan use .
Industrial Designer: But I think uh d this option is only useful if you've got a lot of paperwork . You can't It's not very uh ni Yeah well a lot of documents are Yeah .
Marketing: No , I don't think so . It's it's only useful if you have to draw something .
User Interface: Yeah . But then uh it's really useful , I think .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yep . Alright . Um etcetera ? Well uh the laptops ?
Industrial Designer: Mu Yeah right .
Project Manager: Of course great .
Marketing: Yeah , great . Yeah . User Interface: Yeah . Hmm .
Industrial Designer: Can we keep them ? Uh .
Project Manager: Yeah . You can .
User Interface: Project Manager: B by my  Marketing: Wireless uh wireless things .
User Interface: Thanks Project Manager . Project Manager: Yeah . Other uh things we used here ? I hated the cameras , I hated the microphones . But  No  User Interface: Marketing: Well these chairs , man . Really great .
Industrial Designer: Well did you really uh Did you really take uh take those in account ? I half of time I didn't notice they were there . So Project Manager: No . No . I haven't looked w one time directly at the camera . I don't care about it . Industrial Designer: But we shouldn't talk about that .
User Interface: Well I did .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: Because this is a realistic environment .
Project Manager: Well w why not ? Uh etcetera  We Industrial Designer: Project Manager: N new ideas found ?
Industrial Designer: Right . Okay . User Interface: Project Manager: What kind of ideas for n a future schedule  What ? For future um meetings you have got ?
Industrial Designer: Marketing: User Interface: Well I missed uh the option to uh to email ,
Marketing: Communicate in between .
User Interface: yeah .
Project Manager: Chatting and emailing .
User Interface: Email or chat or something .
Industrial Designer: But yeah . W well th that's just the the environment they set us up f with . So Marketing: Yeah , right . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah alright , but that's one n new idea . Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
Project Manager: Well , new ideas found by this .
User Interface: Marketing: Project Manager: Not . Nothing .
Marketing: Well , more more information in the beginning .
Project Manager: We don't want this . We hate this .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Marketing: That's  Project Manager: Digital pen is useless . So User Interface: No it isn't .
Project Manager: Yeah , for drawings .
Industrial Designer: Well , for drawing for drawings . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . So it isn't useless .
Project Manager: But uh two t But uh th then you have to have a lot of drawings , because if I had a company and I'm going to uh buy those expensive huge expensive uh things , I and I have to w pay those uh papers uh that are expensive , I'm not going to uh User Interface: Industrial Designer: Well No Marketing: For people who uh sketch th the whole day , I can imagine that it's useful .
Project Manager: Well th then still they they they should have a a nice graphics programme on the laptop .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But it's still an expensive uh expensive Project Manager: Because this is huge
Marketing: Well  Project Manager: uh this v very very uh expensive paper .
User Interface: Well you you can't you can't draw on a laptop like you like you paint of or draw with your hand .
Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
User Interface: With the mouse it is No . Industrial Designer: But if w Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Well and if Marketing: Mouse is ju just isn't working if you're sketching .
User Interface: Uh indeed .
Industrial Designer: And but what if uh maybe this this board uh SMARTboard is malfunctioning or someone . But suppose it was working correctly , what uh would it be useful then , if it wasn't off all the time ? A
Project Manager: Well no . I hated to draw like that . You you can't draw anything uh neat .
Industrial Designer: Really ?
Marketing: Yeah , but he's saying if it is correct , and you can draw very , yeah , very precise Industrial Designer: Anything you want . Any b b Yeah . L li li
Project Manager: I if it if it would be perfect following .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Well th th then still it's it's it's very expensive uh towards a a just a green uh school board .
Industrial Designer: Well it isn't , but maybe that thing is uh is  Marketing: Yeah , mu
Industrial Designer: Yeah , board , a school board , yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , but but then you can uh save it in instantly , and and and re-use it , and uh Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: I it has It is useful . Yeah .
Marketing: It saves time .
Project Manager: Yeah yeah .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: This uh if it works correct , maybe this thing this thing is just malfunctioning .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: So uh if we get in uh if we get another one and you make sure it does work ,
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: I think then it's pretty useful .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Because uh yeah you can draw t things quickly and uh clearly for anyone uh in the discussion room .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: And then you can save it immediately .
Marketing: Project Manager: Well , they are now .
User Interface: Hmm .