B: Oh yeah , it's .
C: Trois . A: D: Okay , so B: It need maybe some wo further work , but it's D: Yeah , especially on the easy to use
B: Yeah , uh s yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: target .
B: Might it might be fine .
A: So , th the project is accepted ?
D: Okay .
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah , b I think  A: But I d m I think that it will be good to do some more work to transform this into a pineapple .
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah , yeah .
C: Yeah .
A: If you re we really want to have a fruitful remote control . B: C: Okay .
A: So uh mm mm . Mm .
B: That's the finance .
A: Okay and we we had a project prototype presentation with the evaluation .
A: So as we all agree to accept , under certain conditions , the prototype , we'll have look to the final sh financial view .
B: Yeah .
C: Mm .
C: Okay .
A: So
A: we need to calculate the production cost .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: As I said in the first meeting we need to have so a remote control that would cost not more than twelve and point fifty Euros .
C: Mm-hmm .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: And if not if it's not the case y you would have to redesign it .
B: Oh yeah .
C: Yeah .
A: So , just have a look at the okay here is the
B: A: Excel sheet , so
A: so it has the energy source .
A: We have hand dynamo .
A: No , we don't use that .
D: No .
A: We have battery , right ?
B: Yeah , we have battery .
A: Kinetic , we don't have it , I suppose ,
B: No ,
B: um solar cells , yeah .
A: but we have solar cells .
A: Um , how many do y do you need , solar cells ?
A: Do you think one would be enough , or such as
B: Uh I think in each ball you have three A: as number of branches ?
A: Three ?
B: three uh yeah ,
B: three , yeah .
B: Three three solar cells .
A: So ,
A: electronic .
A: Single simple chip on print ?
A: Just one would be necessary ?
B: S s simple , simple , yeah .
A: One ?
B: Yeah .
A: Zero for the others .
A: And sample sensor , sample speaker .
A: One ?
B: Mm . One maybe , yeah .
A: As we have voice recognition , I think .
B: Yeah yeah yeah .
A: So the case .
B: Is it D:  B: Is sh it D: So we are all already nineteen .
B: Wooden . C: A:  Okay ,
A: just keep on going , just to have an idea .
C: The solar cell is too expensive . B: D: Yeah . B: Is Yes a wooden pl I and that's B: There's no wood , so plastic just only , I think .
A: Well uh A: yeah , but what what about case ?
A: Uncurved , flat , single curved , double curved .
A: I think it's more like double curved .
D: That's gonna be double curved , yeah .
B: Double curve , yeah , double curve .
A: One ?
B: One , you have .
A: Uh wood ?
A: B: But it's yeah ,
D: Rather four buttons .
B: a a rubber uh D: Oh no , interface .
A: Uh do we need special colour ?
A: Y maybe , two ?
B: Yeah , yeah . Y y yeah , yeah .
D: Yeah , yeah that's special colours , sure .
A: We have two special colours .
A: Push button .
C: Mm . Yeah , we have four .
C: Five . B: Five ?
A: Okay . A: Scroll wheel .
C: No .
A: We don no .
A: It it's more like integrated scor .
B: I think that this will be like a scroll wheel , actually .
C: No no .
D: Yeah tha that's wheel .
B: Y you tu you turn you turn it , so C: No no no , it C: Okay .
A: Yeah , maybe two scroll wheel , as we have the coarse coarse to fine scroll wheel .
D: Yeah .
B: Yeah , true . Yeah , yeah . Yeah .
B: Okay , yeah , yeah . Scr
A: So , no button supplements ?
D: I think the price is okay .
C: No .
A: Okay .
D: Um ,
D: no .
A: Okay we I think we have problem . B: L_C_ display , maybe . Interface .
A: I think we s if we keep on adding things B: It's okay .  fine .
A: so we have to D: Yeah w one of the m key point is solar cells .
A: Maybe if w t if suppose if we change and we g put just one ?
D: Yeah .
A: Has it changed .
C: B: Yeah , it was stage one , so .
D: No y i it did change , but
A: Okay .
C: We have change the electronics to from from the the the sample sensor to regular chip . Oh .
D: just imagine we have B: So C: We have to delete the the sample sensor , I think .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah ,
A: but we have you the the voice recognition ,
A: no ?
D: Yeah but this one one of the feature we were not really C: Yeah it's the one it's C: m maybe we ha we have two versions ,
A: Okay .
C: the first version , the basic version .
B: I think you can transform the wood into plastic , maybe .
C: Advanced version we have speak .
D: Yeah .
B: Because uh it seems that this can be D: Yeah , if A: Or it would be better .
B: yeah , wood into plastic and it it should be fine .
C: Plastic is free . D: Yeah .
A: So , do we need special colour ?
D: Yeah , that's one of the requirement .
A: Because we have red .
B: Yeah , red and yellow .
C: Wait .
A: Red and yellow .
D: We could turn we could turn everything in either yellow or black .
B: Fancy .
C: We we can we can we c C: yellow .
D: Black then is a regular colour , so .
B: A: I think so we need if we try to have a kind of
D: Yeah , one .
A: pineapple bee . B: D: Yeah .
D: So push button then it's it's the next expensive one .
A: Yeah .
A: An but we have integrated scroll wheel with push dut button .
A: And I think this is one .
D: Yeah , thi this might be .
A: Integrated scroll wheel push button
A: . So we'll we have only one ?
A: And push button .
D: Close to .
A: So if we have all integrated i in the scroll wheel and push button , it's uh B: One .
B: I can remove
B: maybe f you have five with push buttons , so we can just , I dunno , try to modify some of them to have yeah .
D: Okay , so what's the bottleneck ?
C: How about we change the sale ?
D: Double curved .
B: Double curve . We can transform the double curve into single c yeah .
A: Something flat .
B: F some D: Yeah , but flat A: S uncurved . Yeah , maybe not .
B: Single curve .
D: Case , what's the ca
A: Yeah .
B: Single curve should be fine , so .
B: Oh , what  A: Mm . Nearly .
C: Ah we have one  D: And then one Euro left .
B: D: Um .
A: Maybe don't bat no battery , only solar cells .
B: It's it's a bad idea , so . C: D: D: Um A: I think there's a problem with the push push button .
A: We only need maybe just one .
B: Two ?
B: One . A: Just one .
C: D: A: Yeah .
B: That's fine . That's fine . C: Okay . Okay . Agree .
D: So we have one button ,
A: So yeah , you will have B: One s one scroll wheel , so
D: one wheel .
A: So one button , and s
A: scroll wheel with push button on it .
D: B:  And the vocal chord , it's fine .
B: It I th it's fine .
A: So D: It's good they're not charging anything for that . B: C: A: So , yeah . It think we we've done good job , as the cost is
C: Cou could we have look A: twelve fifty e
C: Could we have look at the p the the prod the p the cost ?
D: Yeah y actually it's wrong . We're not under twelve Euros and a half .
A: Yeah , but it's under or equal .
A: It's not written .
B: It's fine .
A: Sometimes it's under or equal .
B: It's under or equal . It's fine , so D: Okay . Okay .
C: Okay .
A: C: So let's say A: Twelve fifty .
C: Wha what C: yeah .
B: It's fine , twelve fifty uh C: Which part is the most expensive part ? D: Solar cells .
B: The solar cells , r is i is it ?
A: Yeah , I think .
C: Yeah , I think it's not t t
A: I think , yeah .
A: But it would i be interesting for our marketing team , to make a lot of advertisement concerning these solar cells to be B: Yeah , to be able to si to sell it .
D: Yeah .
C: Cheaper .
D: That's nice argument ,
D: but if it's it's still four our of twelve .
B: Yeah , with mi
B: It's it is really really uh really very very expensive , though .
D: Yeah .
B: Maybe if uh okay .
C: Okay .
A: Yeah but it will be technologically innova innovative , so . B: Yeah , yeah .
D: Yeah but we just have one button . C: B: A: So it's easy to use and powerful , as the remote control a has only one button .
D: Easy .
D: I don't know about powerful . Yeah .
B: It's easy to use . It's very easy to use .  A: Easy , powerful .
C: D: Mm .
A: So I don't think we need to redesign the p the product .
B: No .
D: Uh that's what we've just done .
B: We've done it with it is under the if it was low , high or so .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: Um
A: So D: okay .
A: Now B: So B: So what are we going to do with this project evaluation ?
A: So D: Well I think we have just have to discuss if B: Okay , okay , it's fine .
D: I dunno .
A: So did you enjoy your clay modelling ?
C: Yes . Of course . This is my job . A: Yeah ? Was it a nice way to create your remote control ?
B: C: Yeah ,
C: it's uh it's good , to to create a control instead of a computer . A: B: Yeah , I think I find it really funny and amazing and interesting to go through all the process to from the beginning to the end .
B: And designing , looking at the chips , the solar cells and uh and it was very informative for .
C: Yeah .
A: And for the marketing guy ?
D: Uh tha that was good but we should have more brainstorming like meetings , maybe .
B: Yep .
D: 'Cause we just presenting one is presenting his stuff
D: next one his stuff and then we try to combine afterwards , so it um .
C: Okay .
B: Okay , okay .
A: And new ideas about new products ,
A: maybe , wi which would be fashion and uh
A: and yellow .
A: B: Yellow .
B: I think you can think about a yellow T_V_ now after  a fruit T_V_ or I dunno .
C: C: A: B: It can be an interesting I don't know A: Yes , just lemon .
B: Yeah , just a lemon T_V_ it'd be yellow lemon .
C: Yeah , but y you know the traditional T_V_ it's um B: It's flat , uh C: Yeah yeah it's flat ,
A: Squared ?
C: yeah the shape is very boring .
B: Yeah , that's right . It's really boring , yeah .
C: Could we come up with new T_V_ with such as this kind of T_V_ ?
B: Yeah .
B: D: C: So you can  you have base , triangle base so you the T_V_ you can A: A: Ah , the lemon T_V_ with the pineapple remote control .
B: Yeah , that's that would be really interesting , actually .
C: Yeah .
C: Yeah . Because the T_V_ you also A: Oh , that's interesting .
A: You could f we could do a kind of fruit collection of electronics things . Electronic device .
B:  Device devi
C: Yeah .
D: Yeah , but just don't trust too much the trends .
C: Yeah .
B: The fruit ? Yeah .
D: 'Cause fruit and vegetables it won't last for ten years uh .
A: Maybe A: Yeah , maybe la next year it will be insects .
B: Yeah , it's D: Maybe two years it's dead .
C: D: Yeah .
B: But I think it's good to follow the f flow and you know make it now and after , you know , if the people change their mind you change also the product .
D: Yeah .
C: Mm .
D: Yeah , but this is good because it's not a long long life product .
B: Yeah .
D: T_V_ is more like fifteen years , maybe , so .
B: Yeah , yeah . That's a yeah , yeah .
D: If you have a lemon lemon T_V_ for
B: We can think about T_V_ with you know where you can change you know the aspects o like for the cell phones , you know .
D: fifteen years A: Customable T_V_ .
B: Yeah , you customise it every ti so every ti if people change , you just change the appearance , and y y you can keep C: D: Yeah , yeah .
A: Ah such yeah .
A: You've already said mobile phones .
D: Tha that would that would make it . Yeah .
C: Okay .
B: Yeah , you can keep the global appearan
A: Yeah , and following B: The mood of persons , the fashions uh C: Yeah .
A: Mm .
B: We int A: It's interesting , maybe we can create a a line of uh T_V_ with uh a a tr
B: B: Yeah , T_V_ , yeah .
C: Yeah .
B: A T_V_ for autumn and a T_V_ for winter , you know , so it's  C: Yeah .
D: C: B: So what i and do w is it  Okay .
A: So I think the costs are within the budget .
A: We're just at twelve fifty Euros .
B: Yeah , the pr at C: Yep .
D: Yeah .
A: So
D: C: B: A: do you think you can celebrate your creation ?
C: And you can celebrate your leadership . A: Oh , thanks a lot . A: Thank you , mister David Jordan . B: Yeah but I think f B: it's really a celebrating object . C: Yeah .
B: So it's yellow and very a very ha it's very happy , so .
D: Hmm .
D: Yeah . It's party party remote control .
B: Uh it's it's a pr it's like yeah .
A: The thing now is to to sell it .
B: C: Yeah , it's your job . D: B: Yeah ,
A: C: Sell it . B: right , go and sell it .
B: Goo and good luck , so  D: Yeah . C: Yeah .
C: Okay and the twelve fifty twelve uh twelve B: D: Uh-huh .
D: Twenty five Euros .
C: Twenty five Euros , yeah .
D: Yeah , I think it's  B: It should be fine .
C: Twenty five Euros .
A: It's maybe a little bit expensive . D: It's cheap , yeah . D: No , I C: No , it's not so expensive .
D: I'm not so happy about the fruit shape , you know .
B: Wh really ?
A: B: It should be it should be fine , you know , actually . S
C: D: C: Okay .
A: Maybe what you can do a test . Put it outside , and if bees come , it's really fruit . B: D: Yeah .
C: B: D: B: I I think I like the the colour a the colour are very good , so actually so C: Okay . D: A: But don't put sugar in it , it's not working .
D: No , the colours are uh it's perfect , yeah .
B: It's perfect , and D: True .
D: Uh yeah , another thing is the logo is missing still .
B: I p is th y A: Yeah , but the colour , I think the colour is more is most important ,
B: the the yellow ball thing that D: Uh A: because I I don't think you have ever seen something like that before for a remote control .
D: Still that was one of the requirements we had .
D: It's yeah but it I don't think it's such a problem just putting the logo somewhere .
B: Uh f like y we can we can put some uh double R_ A: Yeah , but we decided to have something yellow and red , for the costs .
D: Yeah .
A: So maybe we can just integrate it on th on one side , the double R_ .
D: Mm .
B: Okay yeah , yeah . That's actually good idea , so D: Yeah .
C: Mm .
A: So we have the logo , we have the colour , and we have the fashion in electronics ,
C: So we have to give a A: so we have the slogan too .
C: So we have give him give it a cute name .
B: D: Cute na
A: Yeah
C: Mush mushroom controller .
A: th no , it's the it's the pineapple control remote control .
D: You cannot say mushroom because it's not the trend .
B: It's not a mushroom .
A: It's a pineapple now , it has changed . It's a pineapple .
D: It's not the trend .
B: It's a pineapple remote controls .
C: Pa
A: Pineapple .
C: Pine apple .
B: Yeah , pineapple remote remote control .
D: Yeah , but just flying saucer , or A: With cherry on top .
B: Oh , that C: Okay .
D: I would say flying saucer .
B: Oh unid uh unidentified remote control , so  D: It's more appropriate , somehow .
C: Okay .
C: Okay .
B: That's that's pineapple remote control . I think it's fine .
B: D: Mm .
C: Okay .
A: Will you buy one ?
B: Yeah . Yeah I will try I'll try  A: Try to . Okay uh