User Interface: Well , we don't put put in any fancier technology yet . So Marketing: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: Then uh some more technical things .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: I don't know what it is , but it should be there I think .
Marketing: Project Manager: User Interface: Industrial Designer: Um this is the normal circuit board , like a chip board in in a lot of uh things .
Project Manager: Yeah , we have to hurry up a bit , so  Industrial Designer: W So we d we just need this and this transistors and resonators . There's all these kind of things .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Um they they basically said that that's almost the same on any uh remote controls .
User Interface: I'm sure we can fit in .
Industrial Designer: So I guess we j we just need that .
Marketing: User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I don't know what they do or User Interface: Yeah okay .
Marketing: Okay yeah ,
User Interface: We just Marketing: you can you can change Yeah . No .
Industrial Designer: Nah , but they just said we need it .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh the battery contacts , like normal batteries ca you can put in .
Project Manager: Yeah , a recharger maybe .
User Interface: Yeah , we have to make sure to uh Industrial Designer: Yeah okay .
Project Manager: We still want to have a recharger , don't we ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah but Project Manager: Is that still the User Interface: Yes . Yes .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but it i We don't wanna have a ar an How do you call it ? Accu .
Project Manager: A recha Oh no . Uh Battery . It's just a battery . Yeah .
User Interface: Re recharger . Base station .
Industrial Designer: Y uh just just batteries , rechargeable batteries .
User Interface: Yeah , batteries . Yes , rechargeable batteries , I think's best .
Industrial Designer: Okay . Not a separate Project Manager: No , just rechargeable batteries .
Industrial Designer: Okay . And uh a chip , that's this one .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: Then uh I received some possibilities . Um for the energy source we can use batteries or a kinetic uh Like with the pulse watch . So it operates on your wrist kinda .
Marketing: Ah cool . Okay .
Project Manager: But normally you put a remote control on the table or on the couch .
User Interface: So if you hold it , it gets powered .
Industrial Designer: If you hold it . Yeah , I don't think it will work , and Or we can also use solar cells . But you mostly use it indoors ,
Project Manager: It's dark in the room . No .
User Interface: Project Manager: It's just batteries ,
Industrial Designer: so Marketing: Project Manager: that's cheaper .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , and and we can use the home station kind of thing .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Um cases , flat , so uncurved . Uh two D_ curved is um like front to the back . And three D_ curved is also in depth .
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: So that's possible . Uh but with three D_ uh curved uh remote controls , we must use rubber buttons .
User Interface: Mm . So
Industrial Designer: So we can't use the flat buttons .
User Interface: we need uh two D_ .
Project Manager: Yeah . Definitely .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think . Um these kinda materials can be used .
Project Manager: But it doesn't really matter , we just make it plastic .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think so too .
Project Manager: The scroll wheels , that's cool . That's for the volume .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , scroll wheels um User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's good . We can use multiple scroll wheels , w if we want to .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But I think just the volume is enough .
User Interface: Uh For channels it's not handy ,
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: because you scroll too fast .
Industrial Designer: And uh the L_C_D_ . So we need uh the expensive , most expensive chip , if we use an L_C_D_ .
Marketing: Mm Project Manager: I don't think that's an opportunity . Just skip it . Because we don't have time for that to to put it in .
Industrial Designer: Okay , then we we use m must use the second most expensive chip . So th so the regular chip . Because we use scroll wheels .
Project Manager: Yeah , okay .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: And um Yeah , that was it I guess .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh are are we using a a rubber case , or Project Manager: Oh just sk
Industrial Designer: We haven't decided yet .
Project Manager: Maybe you have to skip that one as well . It's User Interface: Uh I don't think a rubber case looks Industrial Designer: L
Marketing: Uh but we have to do something about the trend .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , i it it should be soft . You said so ?
Marketing: The trend is uh spong spongy uh and uh fruit or fresh fresh .
User Interface: Yeah , okay . That Uh fruit and veg , or Marketing: And uh now we have nothing about uh about those those two .
User Interface: Yeah , fruit and veg can be just the covers .
Marketing: Uh yeah i Just Just on front .
User Interface: So you can the the spongy yeah , I dunno . I can't imagine a soft remote control .
Project Manager: No .
Marketing: Neith uh I don't like it uh neither .
Project Manager: No .  User Interface: I just can't imagine it .
Industrial Designer: So just hard plastic ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , I think .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
User Interface: Titanium . It's mentioned here uh .
Industrial Designer: Titanium , uh I think it's too expensive .
Project Manager: But maybe the form has to be a bit different . Not the sh the square form . Just a bit
Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
Project Manager: more rounded .
Industrial Designer: you can make it curved or mm round . But just in two D_ , not in depth .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , that's right .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: So We have to decide which one we're going to choose from these . What exactly . Because we have to know it . So the energy uh is the recharger .
User Interface: Project Manager: We already know that . Just a normal battery .
User Interface: Yeah . We have batteries .
Project Manager: Okay . The chip-on-print is a normal one .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Regular .
Project Manager: Okay , the case is just a plastic one .
Industrial Designer: Yeah th yeah , the chip is the the regular one .
Project Manager: Yeah , re Yeah , regular . Yeah , okay . Yeah , regular .
Industrial Designer: You have the simple one , regular and advanced . So it's b should be regular uh the second .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: I think I'll just check it .
Project Manager: And we need a plastic case , with a scroll wheel . User Interface: Yes .
Project Manager: That's pretty much it .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: And a flashy light .
User Interface: User interface concept .
Project Manager: So uh I'm not sure . But we do I don't know if we expected to draw on this one at this moment . But User Interface: I dunno either .
Industrial Designer: Mm . Or should we do it in the next meeting ?
User Interface: Uh I_D_ and U_I_D_ work together on prototype drawing on smart board .
Project Manager: Yeah . That's for the next one .
Industrial Designer: So we should did it here ?
Project Manager: That's for th
User Interface: So we're staying here ?
Project Manager: Uh that I think that's the next next meeting .
Industrial Designer: Or should we do it in the next meeting ? Okay .
Project Manager: But you definitely get a specific instruction . User Interface: Okay , so now we're ka thirty minutes alone again ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: But th think about something that's more rounded . Just And more It has to be User Interface: Yeah , uh I dunno . But the iPod and etcetera , M_P_ three players , mobile phones .
Project Manager: Uh a bit . Just just on the top or on the bottom .
User Interface: Just a bit cur Okay , I'll see if I can see any of those .
Project Manager: Maybe the wheel can be uh like uh like this . O um if you draw it like this , you get a What the fuck is it ? Okay . Mm Doesn't work . You see what I mean ?
Industrial Designer: What ?
Project Manager: If I draw here  It draws about four centimetres lower than  Industrial Designer: Oh . Okay .
Project Manager: Nah okay . Just . Maybe you can make it like this . And this is all the wheel for volume . So that you just um It's all rounded , so you can do uh turn this one .
Industrial Designer: Like a very big scroll-wheel . Project Manager: Yeah , but just not on the top , but uh on the side of it .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: Maybe , I dunno .
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Project Manager: Okay , so we have this at the moment .
Industrial Designer: I think uh you'll get a a lot of uh volume changing when it's not wanted .
User Interface: Yeah , you  Project Manager: Okay , so
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: we'd have this . Is that okay ?
User Interface: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: that's a little problem , of course , as well .
Industrial Designer: I think it's probably better .
Project Manager: And Industrial Designer: Yeah , but maybe we can make a a plastic , so that you i if you like drop it , it won't change the volume . Only if you use your finger .
User Interface: Yeah , maybe you just have to make it uh That's not scrollable too easy .
Project Manager: Like this . And uh what's the channel choose ? Where do we uh put that ? Still on the bottom
Industrial Designer: I think in middle .
Project Manager: or User Interface: Uh wh what is the middle part ?
Project Manager: That's the numbers .
User Interface: Numbers , okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh I think th the numbers should be in the bottom , and and the switch channel in the middle .
User Interface: Yeah , I agree as well .
Project Manager: It doesn't make a difference , if you put the s uh the switch channels on side of each other or on top of each other .
User Interface: Use the dz
Project Manager: Because you already have the volume here , so You can also put it here one butt and the other one there . Next to each other . back and forth .
User Interface: Yeah , that's right .
Project Manager: So you can also can put it all on the top , and this , you keep this empty . Because you have to hold it as well .
Industrial Designer: Or you could do the switch channel up button above the the numbers and switch channel down button below .
Project Manager: But that's not want to zap very quick , so User Interface: Yeah , I think uh zapping is the highest priority .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay .
Project Manager: Yeah ? Is this a opportunity ,
User Interface: And then you use those uh Project Manager: or you don't want a different User Interface: Yeah , of course uh .
Industrial Designer: Uh but I think we we should bu uh put 'em on top of each other , so Project Manager: Why ?
Industrial Designer: Because then it's it's easy to know m if I push the the the up Project Manager: But still the next It's still the next one . Doesn't make Industrial Designer: Yeah , but the top the top button is is like you switch channel up , and down button is  If you put them Project Manager: Yeah , but fo from left to right is exactly the same . It ma it doesn't make a big difference .
User Interface: Yeah . I I think it's It's it's obvious , I think .
Industrial Designer: But uh but I I think uh left to right is more often associated with volume , and top down is more with uh channel changing .
Marketing: Yeah , that's not not It's not al uh always the same .
Project Manager: But it's exactly th
Industrial Designer: In uh On most on most remote controls .
Marketing: Every remote control's uh different .
User Interface: Yeah , I think Industrial Designer: So so if we use that , they will probably have a long learning uh time .
Project Manager: I dunno . I You already have the volume on the side ,
User Interface: No , uh I think Project Manager: so you can't make it you can't ma make a mistake .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: So it's uh User Interface: I think it's s so simple
Industrial Designer: I dunno .
User Interface: you just Project Manager: So but that's for that's for you ,
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: 'cause it's User Interface: Yeah , okay I'll d I'll take a look at it .
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: Okay , so hmm . What did What else we have to discuss about ? I dunno .
User Interface: Think we need to work uh thirty minutes again ?
Marketing: Yeah , we have to care that it r uh looks really new . Because uh we still hold on to the uh ordinary uh uh square uh remote control .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: 'Cause wha what I see the only difference i i i in fact is that we use a scroll-wheel on the outside .
Project Manager: And the LED .
User Interface: No , you have uh It is Industrial Designer: Yeah , but i i it should be round in in shape .
User Interface: Uh the current uh controllers are all black and plastic .
Industrial Designer: So User Interface: You have to look at that image of the iPod .
Marketing: Yes . Okay .
User Interface: More that uh kind of style .
Marketing: And a bit uh User Interface: Not not the old grey black Project Manager: Uh Yeah .
Marketing: Some some kind of bling bling uh mm can we have Industrial Designer: User Interface: Where you can put a ve Uh we have If we do it like that we have below have we uh a lot of room to put a nice logo .
Project Manager: Yeah . Uh the logo was has to be on there . Yeah , that's right .
Marketing: Uh and how many uh fronts uh fronts do we put on the market then ? Uh five or something ?
Project Manager: Yeah , five . Let's give five .
User Interface: Marketing: Or more or User Interface: Maybe you can buy separate ones and uh Marketing: And um uh uh buy the product . You buy , you get one . And uh basic .
User Interface: Yeah . Um
Marketing: Or you can choose one uh if you buy the project .
User Interface: I think Yeah . That's your choice , I think huh .
Industrial Designer: No , tha that will be Project Manager: So y you can put the bottom of the remote control in recharger ? Is that is that a good good opportunity ?
User Interface: Yes .
Project Manager: So you could put it like that ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah , so top down .
Project Manager: okay .
Industrial Designer: Hmm ?
Marketing: Yeah , you sl uh you let it slide in the docking station .
Industrial Designer: Do we have to design that w as well ?
Marketing: Yeah . Project Manager: Uh I'm not sure .
Industrial Designer: The docking station ?
User Interface: Yeah , I think so .
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
User Interface: But th Yeah , that can be very simple . Least .
Marketing: Yeah , we can b It c it could be just just a square , just a packet .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , just a recharger .
User Interface: Yeah , just where you're around something . Li Yeah , we had one example .
Industrial Designer: But we have to make contacts on the on the remote control and the recharger as well .
User Interface: Mm . Mm .
Marketing: Yeah ,
User Interface: Which w
Marketing: but that's a round one . Maybe we can choose then .
User Interface: Here you see one that's very round .
Industrial Designer: Oh yeah , okay .
User Interface: So I think that can be all kind of shapes .
Project Manager: But maybe you can just round up the corners a bit . That's all .
Industrial Designer: Of the remote control ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah Project Manager: Just round it up .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , so y you don't want uh this uh like the iPod . But Project Manager: No . Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: More rounded . Yeah , I think it will just look like more like this one . Since it's This is also rounded .
Project Manager: No , just just the corners .
User Interface: I think i
Marketing: User Interface: Yeah okay , tho those are al already a bit cornered . Mm  Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but we can we can do all kinds of uh As long as it isn is in two D_ we can use all kind of round shapes .
Project Manager: Shapes .
User Interface: Yeah okay , but then we have to think of something totally new .
Industrial Designer: Not in depth . Yeah , but  Yeah , if if we want to make it kind of , yeah , new .
User Interface: I've uh I had a lot of picture of old ones . And all curves have already been done .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: Project Manager: It's a bit annoying , isn't it ?
Marketing: Yeah . What do we do wrong ? Hmm . Just just more like this and not uh a square .
User Interface: Yeah okay , yeah well Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but we could do a lot of , lot more curving . I would do it User Interface: Yeah . I know we can do a lot more , but Marketing: Yeah , it Project Manager: Industrial Designer: Like in this kind of shape or Marketing: Uh it's very annoying . Okay .
Industrial Designer: I dunno . I dunno if it's handy .
User Interface: I think it will only look more like the old remote controls .
Marketing: Uh Industrial Designer: This ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The olden the olden ones had looked like just a square thing .
User Interface: Yeah okay . But uh I had a lot of pictures Oh I can show you here what the old ones look like .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: Curves , curves .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: You've more there as well .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay .
User Interface: It wasn't very small one . very simple .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: That is for elderly .
Project Manager: So we have to make a decision , what kind of form it's gonna have t going to have .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I don't know .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: I think if w My opinion . If we just uh take the iPod , and the same look .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: So uh light or just whatever colour , but the same light colours . And uh just with uh together with uh the back-lights b look will look very new .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: No rubber buttons or something . Just together with the back-lights you'll get a totally new look . More like the M_P_ three player M_ um P_ M_ P_ three player .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: And you have the scroll button inside . Okay .
User Interface: Yes . Just a simple scrollb
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: But why do we have to round it on the t bottom then ? Of Skip that one as well .
User Interface: Doesn't have to be .
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah , it's cool .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , though that's a trend . If we want to make it . But yeah , I'm not a Trendwatcher , you are . So Marketing: Uh the t the trend is
Project Manager: Rubber spongy .
Industrial Designer:  Marketing: spongy and fruity .
User Interface: Yeah . No . Spongy
Marketing: But yeah .
Industrial Designer: Spongeball kinda .
User Interface: and Marketing: It's not not a lot of trends I uh I found uh Project Manager: Okay , so we have s still one minute left . So just Marketing: Uh Project Manager: I think it's okay if you just keep it a bit square .
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Okay . Yeah ,
Marketing: It The th th
Industrial Designer: I d I don't know n something about ergonomic kind of fits-in-the-hand uh stuff .
Project Manager: No .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: But I I think it's still for older people . You j still have older people . It's only annoying if it if it's like that f formed like that , like f Whatever . Just you have a normal Industrial Designer: Yeah , but we're we're aiming at a young public .
Marketing: There is one There's just one overall important aspect is that we must make it fancy and it looks original , and I hope we can uh make it look not like the iPod itself . It must have uh uh uh a very different User Interface: Yeah , idea . But you're If you look at the way remote controls are now Project Manager: But i it is it is it is already fancy . Because of the lights on the bottom of it . That's already fancy .
User Interface: And if you make it look like the iPod Marketing: Yeah , they're all the same .
User Interface: Yeah okay . So that's already a very big change
Project Manager: Uh maybe maybe make the the mm the wha what's it called uh scroll wheel . Make it in in yellow or something . Just like the colours of Real Reaction .
User Interface: compared to Industrial Designer: Hmm .
User Interface: Ye yeah . Well uh Industrial Designer: Yeah , we could do that .
User Interface: Could .
Marketing: Uh yeah , but uh if you the f uh front , the scroll wheel will still uh be yellow .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: No , I think Oh .
Project Manager: It's right .
User Interface: Think the scroll wheel won't be very big . Since if you put it uh somewhere , the chances that it will scroll are too big .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: So it will just be a small small scroll wheel . So it won't uh stick out much .
Project Manager: Yeah . Maybe the ones we are going to draw there . Maybe we have to ask uh to the the mm to her if it has if it can work better than this . Because it doesn't work properly . So maybe you have to ask her .
User Interface: Yeah okay . Well ,
Marketing: No .
User Interface: maybe we can just open images there , and I'll paint and paint .
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah . That's probably User Interface: I'll be able to do a better job .
Marketing: If you set the pen yeah , he will draw here . Doesn't work .
Project Manager: Okay , so just finish it . So we make it a bit like m that one probably . Yeah . Is that okay ?
Marketing: Yeah , I'll see it .
User Interface: Bu Yeah , I agree more like iPod .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , only the colour and the flashy light and the User Interface: Yes .
Project Manager: We just we just skip the the the voca or was it the the speech recognition .
User Interface: Just a Speech . Yeah , do we s keep that ? Yeah , I think Project Manager: Or keep that ? It's okay . But you'd definitely need a
Industrial Designer: S User Interface: Well uh
Project Manager: advanced chip .
User Interface: then it w Industrial Designer: Uh yeah , I don't know . Yeah , I think so .
Marketing: Uh Industrial Designer: And we we have to build in a microphone and User Interface: Well that's very easy . We already have uh the beeping of the home station ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah , and I do I don't know anything about that .
User Interface: so Industrial Designer: I d I didn't receive any information on speech recognition ,
Marketing: No .
User Interface: Uh strange that I received the information about that .
Industrial Designer: so Marketing: Oh that's hard . But Project Manager: So Marketing: Uh the ma the main points I I I uh just said . We have to be original and uh technological innovative . Becau
Project Manager: Can we just put it speech recognition in it as well ,
Marketing: Yeah . But Project Manager: okay ?
User Interface: So
Marketing: Ma
User Interface: shall we it open then ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: So we can put all the Project Manager: The function of that in there . Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: And we need a Probably we need a uh advanced chip then .
Industrial Designer: Fine . Yeah , we probably do .
Project Manager: But it doesn't say anything about it ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: does it ?
Industrial Designer: No .
User Interface: Oh yeah , I Marketing: But we don't have any f information about the cost .
User Interface: No .
Marketing: We started with information about the cost was now th
User Interface: I just I just received the Industrial Designer: Yeah , uh I have I have some some information about the cost . But just a about the chip .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: And how much is the chip ? The the the Industrial Designer: I don't know how much , but User Interface: Yeah , our division has developed a new speech recognition feature , the integrated programmable sample sensor simple speaker u unit .
Industrial Designer: Just in inexpensive or User Interface: This is a very small electronic unit , will give a standard answer after it recognise a question .
Marketing: And how how does it work ? Is it User Interface: Doesn't say . Just You say record , followed by your question sample , and after a few seconds the answer uh sample . Because uh So it works like uh good morning remote control , and then the remote control says good morning .
Project Manager: It doesn't has to say anything . Just You have to just talk to Marketing: No .
User Interface: Yeah uh th that's just It's a Marketing: Does it say does it say something back ?
Project Manager: Okay , we have to stop it now . So just User Interface: No . Yeah , it Well that's integrated in the chip , so if you use the speech recognition , that's in it .
Project Manager: Okay , that's a r That's that's a advanced Industrial Designer: But i it's a separate chip .
User Interface: I dunno , but if we use speech recognition , that will be in it as well .
Industrial Designer: Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I don't know anything about this ,
Marketing: Um Project Manager: Yeah , we just decide not to put it in ,
Industrial Designer: but Nah .
Project Manager: because it's too difficult .
Industrial Designer: I dunno . User Interface: Well it it would be would be a good feature feature .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , we just put it in , because it's a good feature .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: We have to stop now .
User Interface: No no worries about the cost , etcetera .
Project Manager: Okay , just User Interface: And there's a chip in it that will Project Manager: We have to stop it now .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Fine .

Summary: The group decided to have the normal batteries, the scroll wheel with rubber buttons together with back-lights, the beeping of the home station, the round shape as well as the speech recognition with an advanced chip. And they would skip the LCD because they would need the most expensive chip if they used an LCD.