B: Yeah
B: I don't know .
B: Perhaps I have some examples .
C: W
C: We'll leave that to the usability engineering then . B: I don't know D: Who's the usability engineering ?
B: That's me .
D: She is . C:  B: But I'm going to look if I've got some examples
B: 'cause perhaps you should choose what's most often used .
D: Oh .
B: The C: Yeah .
D: Um B: 'Cause they can use that better .
C: Consistency .
B: Yeah .
D: Oh  D: I have that those s numbers .
B: I Here is our here are uh
D: Or a good watch .
B: I don't really know .
D: B
A: Everybody's searching in his data .
B: Yeah .
D: Channel selection . Per hour one hundred and sixty eight .
D: Volume selection four times an hour
B: Yeah
B: but  But I mean if it's usually plus or min above each other or next to each other on a normal remote .
C: Yeah .
D: Uh C: So not how much n not how often it's used , but B: W what's what's usual or normal .
D: Yeah ,
D: that depends on on on the remote .
B: Yes
B: I'm looking here .
B: But here's it's below ,
C: Uh .
B: here also ,
B: and now here's here's next to each other .
C: B: I think it's it's a D: I think D: because I have two televisions at home .
D: One is horizontal ,
D: one is vertical ,
D: so it depends .
C: Yeah
C: it does it doesn't really matter ,
B: Yeah .
C: but D: Yeah . Depends .
C: Uh .
B: I think the the the volume was usually uh above each other ,
B: because you go higher and down .
D: Yeah , lower .
B: And the the pay the the
B: the program is next to each other ,
B: because you would go further and back .
C: D: True .
B: That's how it's is usually when I look here
C: Okay , um .
B: that's what I see .
C: Let's cut to the chase . D: It's got to change .
B: A: Yeah well
A: I think we have we don't have to decide about that now
A: how
A: where we will put the buttons
B: I don't know .
D: Yeah is it is user interface .
A: just the
B: Yeah .
A: concepts .
D: Component .
B: This concept is in the actual design ,
B: but you should know where you would place a C: Okay , well
C: le
C: Yeah . Interface , yeah .
B: And the speech uh shall we implement that ?
B: Or uh A: Yeah well
A: we just heard about the new uh technology , huh ?
D: Yeah
D: I think it's it's easy for that ,
C: Technologies , uh .
D: where are you , but then it says I'm here .
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: Makes it possible to B: But then you should also find a place D: Yeah .
B: You could if you do it like this you could put it in a corner or something .
C: Mm .
B: You can talk into the corner .
D: Yeah , a microphone , yeah .
C: Not even necessary ,
A: Mm-hmm .
C: because a lotta C: you can make a very sensitive microphone ,
C: so it makes it possible to uh just put it arou uh underneath it or on the on the bottom of the uh remote .
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah
A: maybe at the bottom where you can can hel hold it with you hand that there's also a microphone uh
B: But D: B: Yeah , that's also .
C: Yeah .
C: Right .
A: over there .
B: So ,
C: But that's not import I think that's not im very important
B: in the middle or something .
A: Yeah , yeah .
C: because yeah , it doesn't matter where the microphone is .
B: but you should uh decide where you want to put it .
C: Ah okay , sure , okay ,
B: Right ? C: well
C: tha
D: Um I think where it isn't seen
C: Underneath ?
D: the most .
C: Indeed . It shouldn't be uh very uh visible .
D: Inside .
B: You could p you could put it in a logo of the company . A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: Yeah sure , why no
A: Well
A: maybe just in the the spot you just pointed out
D: I i
D: between the round of the R_ .
B: Yeah . D: Yeah .
A: because I think it should be in a in an important position where people can see it ,
A: because it is the the unique uh idea of our remote , huh , the the speech control .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah , okay .
B: So
B: where do you want to put it ?
A: Well
A: maybe where the one hand C: Yeah
C: but it doesn't makes it uh any more fancy because you get to see uh B: Yeah
B: actually it does D: Yeah .
B: because it you can you can find it better if you use it .
D: Yeah
D: bu but B: It's a way for you to uh C: Uh .
B: So it makes more sense
B: just 'cause other remotes don't have that .
C: Yeah , okay .
A: But are we talking about the button , or about the microphone ?
B: About a microphone ,
A: Yeah
B: there is no button .
A: because a microphone is very small thing ,
A: but you can make it look like it's big
B: Yeah .
A: so as its its really an important function of the remote .
D: I think the left s under corner should be the best .
C: D: Where isn't i it isn't most in sight .
B: Yeah .
C: Okay . Well put it there . I don't mind . D: I think .
A: B: C: That doesn't doesn't really matter .
D: No . Actually doesn't .
C: Okay . So ?
B: Alright .
B: Any more uh A: So well uh
C: Interface type .
A: type , supplements ,
A: anything .
A: Yeah , well
A: we already s discussed that , huh , the the L_C_D_
C: The L_C_D_ yeah ,
C: uh supplements well the supplement is to A: and B: Yeah .
D: I think I thought the , like you said , like scroll next to the remote isn't that handy .
C: yeah .
B: Yeah .
D: I think it's better to just up what you'd like to do on the screen .
B: D: If you want to go back you have to back button go back ,
C: B: Yeah .
D: if you want to choose audio settings you press audio settings and it goes to that s sub-menu .
C: Hey ,
B: Um yeah . Yeah
C: . B: the the young people do like uh scroll uh
C: Use the scroll .
D: Yeah ? You do like it ?
C: Yeah I think so too .
C: So why not , on on side .
B: Or at least B: Yeah
B: I don't know if it's really the scroll ,
B: but the menu they like most ,
B: and I think you can never get through a menu great with a scroll uh C: Fast ,
C: yeah .
D: Yeah I think it is is faster .
C: So
C: if you've got a settings , if you D: Becau
D: I think the scroll's easier if you have a lot of options ,
C: Yes . D: but if you don't have a lot of option then B: But you have it's f uh
C: You have a lot of options ,
B: we have five or four or something .
C: because when you use C: Yeah
C: you get w when you use uh the settings menu for example to look up some uh uh some channels on your uh on your television , you should scroll scroll down uh on a menu which probably does not fit on your screen .
D: Y
A: Mm-hmm .
D: Uh-huh .
D: Yeah , okay , true .
B: Yeah .
C: So then it's uh very handy to to scroll down ,
D: Okay .
C: you make just a rubber just like uh on your mouse or .
C: Just put it on the side and it's very easy to use .
D: Okay , no problem .
A: And I think I would it would make even more fancy because you have another interesting thing on the side
C: Yeah , yeah .
A: which you can touch
B: Yeah . A: and B: It's also different . A: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: Okay .
A: Okay . Well
A: there's our five minutes uh warning .
A: Um any more uh questions about about the design or the user interface or different components , everyone ?
D: Um . No ,
D: colours are clear ,
D: shape is clear ,
A: Everybody think they can can
D: material is clear .
C: Okay ,
C: what's the standard colour ?
A: work for that ?
D: And a standard ,
D: yeah
A: Is there a standard colour ?
D: we don't D: no
D: we have different colour .
C: I I
D: How many colours are we going to C: You got you got different colours ,
B: You should you should have a black one
C: but you should have a standard colour .
B: because uh I think black is standard .
D: Black . Yeah , black I think is is the standard .
C: Black ?
C: With the with the yellow uh  B: But if you want to be different , then uh D: Dark grey , something like this this colour or something .
C: Just a regular uh remote colour .
D: Yeah like like yeah .
C: And then have uh different covers uh to use .
D: Or or silver .
D: I think it's better to have silver nowadays .
C: Silver , yeah .
B: Silver .
D: I think you see more silver than black .
A: Yeah .
C: You see a lot of t uh silver televisions .
A: But still silver and black are B: Silver rubber . D: Yeah the the silver black are our main colours . Yeah .
A: well
A: silver is new but also traditional ,
A: so uh D: I think we have silver , black
D: and between those is like I dunno s five colours between them or something .
A: Yeah
A: w what about a yellow thing ,