E: this other speaker on this other channel was trying to formulate this thought , and they paused ,
E: and they paused just enough that this person leaped in and gave them a word .
D: Mmm .
A: Mm - hmm .
C: Right .
E: And I think those are interesting ,
E: so when I find that I I note note it as , you know , finishing E: put capital letters .
E: Capital letter , capital letter , colon , apostrophe " S " , utterance .
D: Oh !
E: Yeah .
F: Wait , wait . How do you mark it ?
A: Wait .
C: We add the E: So , if  so in the examp i in the instance in which E: Let 's say that , um , Morgan 's talking ,
E: uh , so , <nonvocalsound> he 's talking .
E: And then somewhere there 's a bit of a pause ,
E: and let 's say Adam fills in a word for him .
E: Then what I do is , on Adam 's channel , I say I say , " Completing " And this this isn't that common of an occurrence . <comment> " Completing speaker initial with a colon apostrophe " S " 's utterance " .
F: Oh , I see .
D: Oh !
A: Oh .
F: OK .
E: And what that means is at the time when we E: See we 're gonna go to a stage of anonymization .
E: So it 's important to have the colon here
A: Oh .
E: because that 'll make it possible to easily know , you know , who it was without having to do the math involved in figuring out which channel it was .
E: The problem with E: I originally wanted to use channel numbers as the referent index ,
E: but that that 's not functional
E: because we have these two different numbering schemes .
E: You have the numbering in the Channeltrans interface and you have the numbering in the " key " file
D: Yeah .
E: and those can be very different .
A: Right . Right .
E: So , you know , to be able to ,
D: Yeah .
E: uh Th - this is redundant in a useful way in that you know that you 're not gonna make a mistake .
E: I tried to do it with the numbers
E: and I was making all sorts of inconsistent problems , so I stopped it .
C: So that 's probably why you , like , added in that , um , thing that automatically puts in the people 's initials .
A: Mm - hmm .
D: Initials ?
E: That 's that 's I did that partly to keep track of things .
E: Absolutely .
E: Absolutely .
D: I I also found that it was easier to deal with the meetings when there are speaker initials .
C: Uh - huh .
E: Somet
C: Oh yeah .
C: Initials .
E: The initials ?
E: I 'm glad to hear that .
D: Yeah .
E: I st I didn't do that systematically until , uh , really rather recently ,
D: Yeah .
E: so . I I 'm glad to know that 's useful .
A: Mm - hmm .
E: It s takes an extra step .
E: Glad it 's useful .
E: OK , now I just have one more thing to say
E: and that is that ,
E: um , um ,
E: like once this is just such a rea
E: I 'm getting down to like the really eensy - weensy stuff .
E: But , um , once I found a comment that , uh , in in curly brackets about mumbling .
E: And , um ,
E: i g
E: that 's that 's this is just to mention an instance that happened once ,
E: it 's really grasping for details .
A: Mm - hmm .
E: But , um ,
E: I I f I think , and it may be that it was not from anybody here ,
E: so .
E: But I think that , um , " mumble " is only useful in the s to me , in the sense of " whispered " ,
E: if it 's like a manner of speaking , in which case it 's a " QUAL " .
E: But not in terms of replacing , like , this string of undecipherable fragments .
E: So ,
A: Oh , right .
C: Right . Oh yeah .
D: OK .
E: um , this this was u when it was used A: They used " mumble " for E: exactly .
E: It was used in place of , uh , something that was in unintelligible .
D: OK .
C: To fill in . I see .
A: Mmm .
A: Right .
E: In which case , it would be better to use parentheses and and either exclamation , <comment> or the number of syllables , if you know .
A: The number " X " .
F: And then do " QUAL mumbled " or " QUAL whispered " or something .
E: Exactly . If it 's a manner of speaking , then it 's useful .
F: I see .
A: Right .
E: And otherwise the parentheses with an estimate of syllables is better .
D: OK .
F: OK .
E: OK .
E: So , I guess , you know , I don't wanna keep you .
E: I kept you so long .
D: Can I ask one more thing about these comments .
E: I really appreciate this .
E: Yes ?
D: So we are for D: " QUAL " is used for things like " whispered " , or " said while laughing " , or things of that nature .
E: Yes .
E: Mm - hmm .
D: Um , I remember at some point we were doing a difference between vocal and non - vocal sounds ?
E: Oh . Yes .