Project Manager: So , next I propose the Industrial User Interface to present things .
Industrial Designer: Okay , okay .
Project Manager: So you you're Industrial Designer: Participant two . Yeah .
Project Manager: Um . Okay .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: The rationale must be design , or Project Manager: So , Baba is the uh the Industrial Designer . Okay .
Industrial Designer: So we can move to the next slide . As you all know , you know m my job is to design you know uh to give an industrial design of the remote control . So the re basically the remote control will be , you know , infrared control , so the problem is how to relate the
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: how to relate the remote control device , like for example this one I h I'm holding in my hand and the T_V_ . So , this one is leather bu based
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: but I propose a nifra infrared base you know , so so for me I think that it is better it's bet it's better to control T_V_
Project Manager: Marketing: Industrial Designer: so you know , so it's it will be cheaper and it is less technology than , you know For the cheap price we have , for the cheap price we want to Marketing: True .
Project Manager: So you mean that infrared control is a cheap technology ?
Industrial Designer: I think it's cheaper than laser , so .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Yeah . Do y you know the requirements for the remote control ? Twelve , nearly thirteen ,
Marketing: What the cost is ?
Project Manager: yeah . The cost Marketing: Twelve , twelve a half .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think for the cost we want for the cost we want  it's better to have uh uh Let's see . Yeah . You can move to the next slide , so . So the di the differen the findings you know what you find inside the re i the the system here inside it is just , you know a bulb and an infrared bulb , so here for example the infrared bulb will be here
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: and the bulb it will be somewhere inside .
Marketing: That might just So .
Industrial Designer: You can go to the next slide .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: I have some kind of pictures you know , here . You have the b the bulb , it is a blue the blue stuff here and the infrared and the infrared bulb it is the red stuff
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: you know and so and you have the other subcomponent that are not really here so important , so .
Project Manager: What is this ?
Industrial Designer: This is in fact some other component that are in between the electrical de the electronic device .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Look . But here what I wanted to emphasise it is just you know the bulb and .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: So and the next slide , it is the last one it's So it's I think it should be wire wireless re remote con Because you know , it's easier to manage and you know because you f the b the the battery problem can hold you know will you use a battery or the a wire to connected you . Or maybe some kind of thing that we can have both , but you know , I at my side prefer a wireless .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Okay , so if you have some question I didn't answer ?
Marketing: What's the average price of this technology then ?
Industrial Designer: Well the avera the average prices I think that this technology will cost , I dunno , around eight Euros , so . Or at least you know , the
User Interface: So what , the wireless remote control ? There's a wire with remote control ? Industrial Designer: You'd yes , you can . It's so so bres you have to decide how how you will you know , put some energy inside , so you can think about wireless or you know it's it's a question that we can raise , so . We can think that you know , with the wire , you know , without a wire . We can have both also .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: So you think that uh a cable between the remote control and the T_V_  won't be a good idea .
Industrial Designer: User Interface: Okay . Okay .
Project Manager: No it wou maybe it will be cheaper I dunno , I just may maybe you making a solu
Marketing: But this is what you would like to ask the user first and I don't think the user would be ready to have a Industrial Designer: Project Manager: Yeah ,
User Interface: Wireless remote control .
Project Manager: but Marketing: I don't think well , yeah , I don't think he would ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but some pa I always want to have you know ,
Project Manager: Marketing: but in a sense Industrial Designer: sometime I want to have wire because you know .
Project Manager: Yeah but as Industrial Designer , do you think that it will be feasible to have uh linked or to have link between the remote control and the television ?
Industrial Designer:  Project Manager: I'm just asking you . Do you think it will be cheaper ?
Industrial Designer: Uh , I don't think it will be too much .
User Interface: Industrial Designer:  Project Manager: Could you answer please ? User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Have to think about the question , you know , 'cause it's I think that you know you can always you know Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: I think wha wha with the wire it's mm cheaper but you know the wireless it's more practical , so .
Project Manager: Yeah , but I think the wireless problem is more the um David Jordan's problem .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: The wire ?
Project Manager: As it's yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . True .
Industrial Designer: Okay , yeah .
Project Manager: I think it's more your problem . Mayb maybe you have just to to kind of research or try to ask people if they will like something wireless or not .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Uh that's my job . That's the Project Manager: Okay , I'm sorry .
Marketing: Now the Project Manager: So Industrial Designer: Yeah but , it should be an agreement , you know , because even if you can think of the wireless , it is it's it is the job of the the the g Graphical User Designer , but you know . If it is a lot cheaper and if you want to reach for example some the the money you have , if you want to use , so it can be good to have a wireless , it it is a question .
Project Manager: So
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: just think of um the usability .
User Interface: Design a wireless remote control . Project Manager: Yeah . Just think of the problem . If when you have wireless remote control and if you lose it ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: I think it's would be easier to have a link between the remote control and the television ,
Marketing: Well that's actually one of the point , yeah ? True .
Project Manager: yeah .
Marketing: This you will see in my presentation then .