C: It's actually a pretty trendy colour at the moment .
B: It's it's trendy okay .
D: Yeah .
B: But D: My couch is in that colour .
B: Mm .
A: Ooh . . D: Yeah .
D: Well it works pretty well .
B: Yeah .
A: D: And then time was up .
A: Uh not yet .
D: Uh D: .
C: Do you get a pop-up if we A: Yeah within five minutes yeah .
D: That you have five minutes left or C: Alright .
A: Y left yeah left and then uh I have to kick you out .
D: So something like this .
B: Yeah .
D: That should be pretty nice colour .
D: But maybe the buttons , all buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colourblind people .
A: Yeah yeah .
C: No
D: Because the of the green .
C: that's actu
B: But the but the buttons have their own LEDs or not ?
D: Yeah .
A: They have LEDs but they have a colour .
C: Red and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate . Even for colourblind .
D: Yeah ?
C: They will see one of each as grey .
D: Yeah .
C: But if you use uh green on blue , those kind of colours will look the same .
A: B: Okay .
D: Okay .
C: I think .
D: So red buttons are okay ?
C: I think so .
B: Okay .
B: That that's a default uh setting . The the red buttons .
A: You can make them red .
A: Yeah . But I think you need to keep in mind that the LEDs are just extra light . D: How do you mean ?
D: Yeah .
A: Uh they they don't determine the colour that much , I think .
B: Okay . Yeah
B: I I was think about a red uh red LEDs and blue LEDs and A: 'Cause you have to print on them you have a background
D: No that's that's too busy I guess .
B: Yeah .
A: Each number is transparent .
B: Yeah .
A: Uh partly but you have to print on the number . Or the the sign .
B: Okay .
A: So you can't
A: change the colour so D: You better bet better better keep the LED and the button itself in the same colour I guess .
B: Okay .
A: Yeah .
D: So just an extra
A: Bit of light .
C: You can D: bit of light and attention .
C: what we should do I think is is make kind of a see-through plastic button , with uh one coloured LED behind it .
A: Bit of feedback .
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: So that the whole button will shine
A: Mm-hmm .
C: as the colour the  C: And if you think about easy to use buttons , we have to , well we have to make it the shape so that it's easy to hold f for both hands ,
D: C: but also that you can reach the buttons with your thumb , if you hold the machine .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: Yeah .
A: Okay with A: Uh A: Don't mean to discourage you
A: but uh basically you two are going to work on the smartboard .
A: Next thirty minutes to design something so C: Ah , right .
D: Alright .
A: And the A: You will do the evaluation .
D: Of the product ?
A: Yeah .
D: Which we don't have yet .
A: Yeah uh about  B: D: So wh how should I do that ?
A: Yeah I don't know .
D: Oh okay .
A: You probably get a mail .
D: Or you you or you send it to me .
D: Or just D: because you are going to design it on this board right ?
A: Yeah . Once they are finished . Yeah .
A: Yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation you don't have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow .
D: Yeah . I I probably get instruction on that , how to do that ,
A: I don't know .
A: Yeah .
D: so I make another presentation I guess .
A: Yeah .
D: I kn I know what's gonna happen in in yeah so A: About . Yeah . You have the basic idea .
D: I've a basic idea .
A: And you two uh are going to do this .
B: Yeah .
C: So we're gonna work here ? On this sketchboard ?
A: Look-and-feel and A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: Good luck .
C: Alright .
C: Thanks .
D: Yeah .
D: Alright so that's uh A: So I A: uh make new page and uh be creative .
D: Yeah .
C: Alright .
B: But we have to do it at this moment , after th this meeting ?
A: Yeah you have uh
C: Thirty minutes .
A: thirty minutes .
B: Okay .
A: Then we have to uh see something which we can uh
D: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: Alright .
B: Ah so this is basically the what what we are thinking about ?
A: show to the management .
C: Yeah .
C: Shall we uh make a new uh A: I would yeah .
B: Yeah
A: Yeah .
B: l let's just uh delete all these uh or D: Yeah .
A: Next .
D: .
C: Yeah , I just make a new one .
B: Oh , next .
D: Yeah .
C: Alright .
A: Oh and save this uh board .
C: Huh ?
A: Just save it .
C: Yeah I'll just I'll just keep it there .
A: Yeah okay
A: but just press save and uh C: Yeah .
A: It'll be fine .
D: On the left .
D: S so , yeah .
C: Uh sorry .
A: You can also include clip-art . C: Okay .
B: D: Yeah .
C: Current colour ?
A: So if you'll rather draw in paint or something  C: So um B: Okay . Uh C: Shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape first ?
B: Yeah .
C: Because I I B: And then after that we can make the user uh inter interface .
A: then look .
C: Yeah 'cause I have to uh focus on the on the basic look-and-feel design .
D: This ?
A: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: So how it's gonna look .
C: And you have to think uh how we're gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things .
D: Uh pretty accurate .
C: So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be able to put a screen in there , you have to correct .
D: Oh we skip this I guess . Sound button press .
B: Yep .
C: Uh do you mind if I draw in black then ? For normal sketches .
A: Yeah .
A: You can also include it .
A: It's not much work .
D: Light only button user ca user interaction .
B: Oh no it's it's okay .
C: so we kind of want the girlish
D: D: Yeah .
A: That's included .
A: Yeah okay .
D: Yeah .
D: So the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help uh because of um they are only lit during interaction . So C: figure .
C: I'm not so good at drawing .
C: Excuse me ?
D: Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um , well that they are plastic , because then you can light up the light on when when they are usable .
B: Yeah . Yeah .
C: No uh uh .
D: Maybe you should draw it very large like this .
B: Yeah but this part isn't uh functioning properly .
A: Yeah .
A: Sensitive .
D: Oh right .
C: How do we uh uh
D: Erase ?
C: or insert text ?
A: I dunno .
A: Maybe just start typing .
C: B: It's a bit uh large . C: C: Oh that's a bit big . Yeah .
C: A: You also do the other sides .
A: Not only on the front si uh the top side but also the the side view .
C: Yeah . Ex exactly .
B: .
B: L let's make first the the the all the views . The the front view , side view and the back view .
C: Uh A: Uh .
A: A: C: Uh I thought for the side view , that the w the basic section would be rather uh a bit thicker than the middle , where you're holding it with your A: Jesus .
A: What do I write down ? D: Yeah .
A: Why can't I work here ? This is much easier . D: Much easier , yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: 'cause your fingers have to fit underneath and A: Yeah .
B: The middle has to be very small so you can have it in your hand .
A: Mm .
D: I don't see a sign that the meeting is over yet but C: Exactly but the uh but the upper side has to be a bit more like that I think .
A: No
A: so I just work here a few minutes . D: Yeah .
B: Yeah the display ,
C: Uh don't you think ?
B: we yeah we can put a display .
C: So the display we will put in here , the basic uh functions in here , where it's most reachable .
B: Yeah .
C: The B: The the arrow functions . Yeah . Yeah .
C: The th
C: Exactly .
C: Oh . This is hard .
B: C: What do C: don't have to draw it exactly do we ?
B: No it's it's uh it's okay .
C: Wait .
C: Let me try it one more time .
C: Maybe I've uh it's easier if I draw it in once .
C: Okay , of course it will become way more ugly . B: You can make it m larger .
C: B: Maybe it's easier to to draw uh C: Yeah .
C: This'll take forever .
C: It's fun to work with this pen .
B: C: Um so , larger .
D: Oh .
B: Yeah that's that's the basic idea . Yeah .
D: Wrong one .
C: And C: yeah .
C: So side .
A: Five minutes left before the meeting ends .
C: 'Kay .
C: Um other views ?
A: D: Alright .
B: Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the unit .
C: Uh C: Yeah .
B: That's the question .
C: Let's fill i fill in the buttons later .
D: But we we B: Yeah .
C: So this is gonna be from the
D: I is it if if this is from the side C: uh from D: woah . Steady .
B: From the C: yeah yeah .
C: Sorry .
D: Because there the screen goes up like that right ?
C: Yeah .
D: So then it's like this ,
D: or that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the C: Yeah ?
D: it's better to have it somewhat like this .
D: Or does it flip all the way ?
B: Yeah I'm I'm C: The the idea is that it has to flip up to here .
B: May maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble .
C: Okay .
B: Because it do doesn't have to flip then .
B: Because we have en enough space for for making a an L_C_D .
C: Yeah . Yeah yeah yeah .
B: Because here D: It's better to to have this like this I guess , and then flip it like this .
C: True .
B: But why why do we need uh the flipping uh C: you can adjust the angle to which it flips .
C: So it can also from this angle , it can flip all the way up to there .
B: Okay . Yeah .
C: You can flip it up to there if you want .
D: Yeah .
D: So w yeah .
D: But we still keep the flipping mechanism .
C: Think so .
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah we keep the flip ?
A: Keep the flip live .
C: Yeah because I think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that B: D: B: Yeah .
C: I dunno .
D: B: Uh the the shape is okay but
B: yeah ?
B: I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism .
C: I thought it would be cool . D: Yeah .
B: Because we B: Okay yeah . It's it's for for for more trendy uh D: Yeah but maybe Yeah but maybe we we should then B: Because we have enough space .
B: H here we got uh the basic functions ,
D: Yeah there the middle B: the the arrow uh yeah button .
D: Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it ?
B: Yeah
B: and then h we sh mm .
D: And then like i oh th B: C: D: doh .
D: Come on .
D: So this is the shape .
D: Oh . It hasn't C: . It doesn't aim so well .
B: D: Okay but the screen is a bit lower
D: because if it falls on the other side , it doesn't fall on the screen .
B: Yeah , then it's D: So there's a layer of rubber on the side .
C: Yeah yeah yeah . Definitely .
A: D: So no flipping but just B: No flipping or A: No flipping ?
D: no .
B: you wanted the flipping so C: Yeah I guess
C: but uh I mean most votes count right ?
B: But if you if you B: If you drop it it it just breaks .
B: And it has to be very strong because of the . Yeah kind of D: Throwing and the kinetics .
A: It's shaking .
C: Yeah .
D: Oh . We better make we better make it like this . Eventually .
C: Yeah true true .
C: Yeah .
A: Yeah just light on top .
C: Yeah if you if you're going for the kinetics B: And it's also for the for the children , it's yeah for people not sixteen years .
D: Yeah .
A: Safer .
A: Mm . Yeah okay that the target group .
D: Uh they are responsible enough to have a mobile phone , so also to to deal with their uh remote uh control . Yes .
B: But there are more B: Yeah okay . That's true .
B: Okay . Yeah ?
A: Well . I just uh ended the meeting .
C: Yeah . I'm just thinking totally different designs also .
A: You two go design .
B: Okay wi
C: Remember that the weird pocketphone thingy which looked like kind of a Gameboy .
A: Oh . By the way . Um B: Yeah .
D: C: Maybe we should try something like that . But yeah .
A: A: I uh thought up a name for our product .
D: Yeah ?
C: Oh right .
A: Yeah . It's called uh the Real Remote .
B: D: Ooh . A: With a copyright sign after Real . C: Alright .
D: Yeah . Alright .
B: The Real Remote .
C: Yeah . I like it .
C: Okay . This can go .
A: So maybe you can include that somewhere .
D: Good .
D: Yeah .
D: We should work in our own room right ? Or not ?
A: Yeah . C: Oh yeah we have to f uh include that in our design as well .
A: I don't see any power cables here so C: Let's see .
D: Yeah . Yes .
C: What the hell's that ?
B: I think uh it's the sensors .
A: 'Kay .
D: See you two in half an hour uh B: Okay .
C: Uh A: Good luck . B: Yep .
B: Okay that's the side .
B: Ah it's it's okay .
B: But do we want uh options on the on the side with the with the buttons ?
C: Yeah . I think we do .
B: Or just leave it ?
B: Uh could make an uh a volume button uh scroll , volume button .
D: C: Yeah
C: or j or also scrolling for the m yeah .
B: For menu . Or C: Yeah ?
C: I dunno .
C: We w kind of wanted to stick with the B: Yeah . No , yeah .
C: Yeah I'm just thinking , if we i we wanna make something different
A: C: right ?
C: So the with the scroll is is more futuristic than the standard arrow buttons .
B: Yeah .
C: I think .
B: Mm .
B: Yeah you are going to design it so