F: OK ,
F: so we should be on .
D: So
F: And I 'm gonna go ahead and start by reading the digit strings ,
F: just to give you an example of how to do it .
F: And so the first thing to do is read the transcript number
F: which is <nonvocalsound> on the right hand side there .
F: And so if you could just go around the table
F: and read them out .
G: OK ,
G: should I next ?
F: Yep
F: If you could sign that ?
F: Thanks .
F: Thanks
F: So , I wanted to just era it reiterate cuz we did have have one person come in a little later that , um there will be an opportunity to remove anything from the transcript that you don't want made public after it 's transcribed ,
F: so that 'll be some months off ,
F: but you will have that opportunity
F: OK ?
F: Thanks .
B: OK .
D: OK .
D: Thanks Adam .
D: We could start with our meeting ?
F: Yep !
D: Yep !
F: Thanks very much .
D: OK .
D: You have to stay all the time here ?
F: I don't have to
F: Um .
D: But ch you wanna do ?
F: Well F: It 's just At the end of the meeting , don't turn off the mikes
F: just leave them on .
B: OK .
F: And uh
F: Uh .
F: Actually could y actually , could you call me , At the end of the meeting ?
F: I 'll leave my number on the board there
D: Yeah .
D: OK .
F: Thanks .
D: We can do that .
G: Hey , Adam , you know what ?
G: It must be funny to do an a research on how people behave while reading these numbers .
F: Numbers are strange !
G: That must be F: It is !
G: Yeah !
G: It must be much more interesting to to see their behavior .
F: the the meetings are strange .
G: Oh y yeah !
F: People interrupt each other much more than I thought they did .
D: Two nine seven seven ?
D: Right .
F: two nine seven seven .
D: OK .
B: OK .
D: Yeah .
D: I will call you then .
F: Thanks .
D: Uh , OK .
D: So , then let 's start with our weekly meeting .
D: The last time 's uh we learned too much , I believe ,
D: so
D: uh , today , I have two topics .
D: And the first topic , um , we have a new member in our group ,
D: Miguel Sanchez .
D: I believe everybody knows him very well in the meantime because he stayed here quite a little time
B: Hi .
D: and I think he is talking to everybody in the meantime .
D: So , but , anyway , I would like that Miguel Sanchez will introduce himself a little bit , concerning his background , what he intend to do .
D: And  Because I discussing with him uh , uh many things concerning , uh , his skills and what the NSA group intends to do .
B: Mm - hmm .
D: I hope there will be a match , uh , then , for his future work .
D: And the second topic is then to discuss a proposal in much more detail .
D: I believe we still haven't left our starting position .
D: And , um , yesterday I also discussed with Wilbert some things
D: and I would like to focus on the question <comment> " What problem we are going to solve with such a proposal . "
D: Not so will they have a common activity within the group itself and maybe with other partners outside ,
D: but , the technical problem .
D: But that 's under the s second topic ,
D: so first I would like that Miguel will told us a little bit about his skills and and uh his background .
B: OK .
B: OK ,
B: thank you Joe .
D: So , please .
B: Well , I , uh , as all of you know I came from from Spain ,
B: from the uh Polytechnic University of Valencia
B: and i uh I um , just finished my PHD thesis about uh um power - saving techniques for wireless networking .
B: uh , In fact , I have developed an algorithm to control the ra radio frequency power uh of a wireless transceiver .
B: And , uh I 've been working also in routing issues , especially in the so - called ad - hoc netw wireless networks .
B: Where uh , you have a set of , uh , mobile nodes and , no other infrastructure ,
B: no base stations .
B: So all the routing functions are done by the node by the same nodes .
B: OK ?
B: So , nodes act as both end points and routers .
B: eh
B: I 've in the study for some time these kind of networks .
B: And , uh , in fact , there are a lot of of research uh articles about this this kind of networks because You know , uh , mmm infrastructure - based network network has been a long topic of research .
B: So ,
B: for example , routing on on wired networks is a a topic still to be researched
B: but it has an important background .
B: But mobile network this kind of mobile networks is a little bit uh newer ,
B: especially because uh , until not so long uh , the the things were too heavy to have a computer , a wireless transceiver , on a more or less portable thing .
B: So , with the advent of this new technology , low power uh , high , uh , processing capability and wireless eh networking capability , in a really small package , new kind of devices are are being built and are appearing , in the market .
B: And , eh , well this is more or less what I have done .
B: And the kind of , uh , things , I 'm interested is more or less all , around this these kind of networks .
B: But I could say , uh in general , mobile service is not only about , uh these specific kind of networks .
B: But , in general , about , uh services uh over mobile or services that can benefit from the uh , capability of nodes to move around .
B: And , uh , well , I I 've been teaching now for twelve years , comp eh At a computer sciences school in my university ,
B: I 've been teaching computer networks .
B: And , well , I am more or less uh , knowledgable about , well , TCP IP networking , ISO uh , networking ,
B: and , uh
B: well I 'm I 'm a computer guy ,
B: so I 'm really um Well , I can say uh , proudly uh , more or less , computer skilled .
B: I mean , uh , operating systems uh , programming languages uh , networking @ @ .
B: So this kind of things I think I 'm more or less well - trained .
B: So
B: this is , I think , um , my first presentation .
B: Next maybe next meeting I will uh , do a small sketch about uh , my past work , and well , presenting some det a little bit more detailed approach with some schemes and and some things from previous talks , so you can have a better idea of w the kind of work I 've been doing .
B: OK ?
D: Mm - hmm .
B: Thank you .
D: So , thanks , Miguel .
D: Yeah , we m discussed it yesterday that you 'll maybe will have a talk next Tuesday
B: Y
B: Yeah .
D: But , Give me a sign and send me an abstract so that I can announce it , then , for the next meeting .
B: Yeah .
B: That 's OK .
D: Um .
D: One short other topic is Uh . Claudia did a lot of work concerning the web pages in the meantime .
G: Oh ,
G: OK .
D: And , despite busy stuff with waivers and uh and visas and whatever , uh , she found the time to um write , with what we discussed before and in <comment> the form of HTML stuff .
D: And we wanna put it on the web pages in the next days .
D: So , I will send an email , then , to everybody that they should check their web pages whether they 're aligned with , um , their own views and opinions of what we should what should be presented on the web pages .
D: And any feedback is then , well appreciated .
D: No ?
B: OK .
D: So .
D: Let 's switch to the project proposal .
D: Um , I mentioned that it is still f
G: Ah .
G: Sorry .
G: Can I ?
D: Yeah ?
G: Maybe I can add something .
D: Claudia G: Yeah , if there 's anything else which we what we could add on the web site .
G: So , p For example , if you have a small abstract or some pictures or whatever , about the work you did before , what you are planning to do here , that would be fine ,
B: OK .
G: cuz now we can add some more stuff there .
G: Or if you have something or if somebody has some slides , o or articles , whatever he wants to be published there .
D: Yeah .
D: Then everybody sees the structure , how it is uh , structured really structured .
G: Yeah
G: and
D: Then maybe you wi can easy offer some additional input which should be presented , then , on the web pages .
G: Yeah , it depends what what everybody wants to do .
D: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
G: So
G: about the projects will be something ,
G: then , about publications will be another point ,
G: and Yeah , additional information about how is life in Berkeley and i Yep . I don't know , some some hints , some web sites or links which are useful when somebody arrives or stuff like that .
D: Yeah , it is .
D: Yeah .
B: Hmm - hmm - hmm .
D: Half collection of necessary information .
E: But there 's no personal homepage for everybody ?
E: Or , is it planned or not ,
D: Yeah su You can have E: or ?
D: Yeah , you can have it .
D: Because , as uh Uh , uh , le
E: I 'm not interested in this .
E: That makes work .
D: No ,
D: but this is oh , uh Everybody 's obliged to do it for his own , you know .
E: Yeah .
D: So there is not uh Claudia is not the webmaster here to , uh ,  get the collection for for for everything .
E: OK .
G: Oh , oh , no , I 'm not doing it for everybody
D: So .
G: but what I can D: This is responsible for uh , everybody 's responsible for his own ,
D: yeah .
G: Yeah , but but what is planned is that I do something like a previous , you know , layout , and give everybody the , uh , opin uh , the possibility to the chance to put his content inside
E: Sure .
E: OK ,
E: his name and so on .
G: so that the layout is for everybody the same ,
E: Yeah .
B: Well , like have a blueprint .
G: so about the projects and stuff .
E: OK
E: Mm - hmm .
G: So , there will be something .
D: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: OK ,
D: thanks .
D: So ,
D: let 's switch to the proposal .
D: I ask everybody whether read it in the meantime , and understand everything .
D: Yeah .
D: Everybody say yes ?
D: Yeah ?
E: Yes .
D: Yes ,
D: OK .
D: Um .
D: From my point of view , As I mentioned before , we still in the starting position .
D: I think the four building blocks on the network level will have really a major impact on on f current um , available wireless networks and , uh , also for future generations .
D: And , what the missing thing is really what kind of problem we are wan wanna s solve with such a project proposal .
D: And Wilbert yesterday mentioned , and he is right , <comment> that , what kind of , maybe , service we are really going to offer .
D: The linkage between such kind of application , also interactive multimedia application and , uh , this kind of networking stuff is , um , maybe not very well aligned ,