A: or your special colour at the bottom .
B: Mm-hmm .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: And that would enable you to to do it .
D: Okay .
B: So it says if we make a slightly more fancy , then we lose points innovation ,
B: and if we make it more innovative innovative , then we lose points on it being fancy , so A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: Ye
D:  , I just read the email again
D: and it sort of says it's evaluate the design sort of as it is , I think ,
D: so I think we need to think about finance after we've sort of evaluated that design .
D: I don't know whether we're doing it in the wrong order or something or .
A: Well , okay , but C: Well , I suppose it's rubber as it is , isn't it .
A: It's rubber as it is , yes .
D: So , I mean does this need to go up a bit or something ,
D: 'cause we've got both the both the um the speech A: We got we've we've got thirteen point seven
C: Yeah .
A: and we've got it in at the moment
A: and if and basically , we're going to reduce down from that .
D: Yeah .
A: But the current one , you'd say would be fancy , would be too  B: Yeah , yeah .
D: Yeah . Um , for for innovation , so we've got the speech the speech thing , and A: A: Mm-hmm .
A: I would've said about a two as well .
D: Do you reckon a two ?
C: Yeah ,
C: two or three .
C: I'd be happy with a two .
D: Okay . Two .
A: Oh .
D: And the next one is D: I'll have to get it back up now . C: A: The next on
A: Well , I can just sing about .
A: Easy to use .
A: I would've said yes .
A: I would go for a one on that at this point in time .
C: Yeah .
D: Okay .
C: Yeah ,
C: I would say so as well .
A: Um , incorporates elements of fashion to attract buyer .
A: Well , yeah it certainly has some .
B: Um C: Yeah ,
C: it's got the cherry and the sponginess .
A:  .
B: It does , yeah .
D: Um A: Yep .
D: Say about a three maybe ?
A: I don't know .
B: Yeah , m um C: Maybe two ?
B: Yeah ,
B: it was just doing it quite well .
B: Um , I think we're gonna have to lose some of these ,
A: Yep .
B: but the moment , as it stands , it's um A: Yeah ,
A: I woulda said two would seem reasonable .
D: It's a two .
A: The product is a recognisable real r uh reaction product ?
D: Yeah , this is B: Uh the sensor using all of its all of its products , all of its buttons ,
D: This A: B: and it's got a fairly big label on the bottom saying where it comes from .
C: Yeah ,
C: that's a bit rough at the minute . D: Yeah .
D: So this is about sort of the corporate image of like new sort of sleek technology and all that sort of thing , as well as having the logo on and all that .
A: Oh .
B: Okay .
D: So sort of Is it sort of a recognisable product .
B: A: D: Does it fit in with our other other products ,
D: which uh are sort of coffee makers and spacecraft . C: A: S
D: C: Uh , well it's got the same um speech feature as the coffee machine .
D: What do y
B: Also it's kind of spongy rubberiness is maybe bit more kinda comfortable than kinda sleek and new age .
D: Yeah .
B: Um , it depends which way you look at it .
D: Uh-huh .
A: Okay .
A: So we're going for a two ,
D: So B: Maybe a kind of three ?
B: Uh d
D: Two or three ?
A: three ?
C: Yeah , two or three .
C: Well , the logo would be more um recognisable on the actual thing .
C: It's just that the pen wouldn't really write on that paper .
A: Sure .
B: C: But um , I think the logo would definitely be recognisable .
D: Yeah .
C: And it does have attributes that other products do .
C: Two ?
C: Aye .
C: Go for it .
A: Right , okay .
D: Two or three . C: A: Two .
D: How A: Right , come on .
D: Two . Okay .
A: That's that decided .
A: Right . So D: Right .
A: So we're now on to changing it to get it to fit in with the budget requirements ,
A: and then D: Yeah .
C: What does what do all them numbers mean then ?
C: Do we add them up and rate or anything ?
D: Yeah we s yeah ,
D: I think we sort of add them up so sort of at an average is gonna be D: I'm just gonna do this in my head .
A: About a two .
B: C: A: Two .
D: One point eight isn't it or something .
D: I think , anyway .
D: So yeah , pretty close to a two .
B: Yeah , so it's D: So D: So it's I mean it's pretty good at the moment ,
D: but it's gonna get worse , isn't it .
D: But we've gotta try and make sure it doesn't get too bad .
A: Yep .
B: So should we get So are definite A: Two b two b two , yeah .
B: Was it thirteen point seven was the definite price rule if has .
D: A: Yes .
D: Yeah .
B: Okay , so we need to A: Well , you can lose one point two and still meet the requirements .
D: Do you wanna plug it into yours so we can get up the the finances A: Okay , well I put it back on .
B: So I guess this Is this the last stage once we sort out the finances part of it ?
A: D: I'm not sure .
A: C: we'll probably have to re-rate it .
A: Yes , I would've thought so .
B: Yeah , yeah
D: Yeah .
B: we'll make the adjustments
B: and then see how are rates are going .
A: Okay , so what was it ,
A: control uh F_ eight , wasn't it ?
C: Ah it's on .
D: it's come on already .
A: Oh . Oh . How kind . C: A: Right , okay . So ,
A: you can see there that the A: If you want to keep kinetic , right , you've got a choice there of going down to battery , which would save you one .
A: You've got the sample sensor and and sample speaker , which is your big item .
B: Oh actually we just have a plastic case , then we lose two points ,
A: That's right .
B: which gets us um In right within the budget range .
D: Mm .
A: Which gets you  A: Yes .
C: Yeah , I think that'd be fine .
C: Because that was just a trend ,
C: and we do have rubber buttons anyway .
B: So that's eleven point seven ,
D: Yeah .
B: and then we could make sure we definitely had all the button supplements .
D: Different different colours , yeah .
A: Alright .
D: Yeah , I was I was thinking that because maybe maybe the sort of rubber case is a bit less in sort of the corporate identity than the sort of you know sleeker plastic case .
B: Possibly , yeah .
B: Um C: Yeah .
A: Okay , so B: And that would allow us to have all the technical innovations .
B: So we'd lose a little bit on the maybe kind of A: So we're going for plastic , yes ?
D: Lose a little bit on the fashion , yeah , but A: Yep .
B: Oh yeah , and that would now be D: And then B: Yeah , that's that's within the budget . Um B: Do we actually have B: Do we just have one special uh special forms down here ?
A: Well , uh w uh there was debate as to how you would count them .
B: Um A: You got special colour .
A: Well originally I was assuming we had the red apple ,
A: and therefore , that was the special colour .
C: Yeah , I think we should just imagine white buttons .
B: And we we've we've got we've got enough for another
D: Yeah .
B: we've got nought point eight left ,
B: so we've got enough for another A: Well , we've got special form .
A: Now that would be one button ,
A: and the question was was that all buttons or is that just one button .
A: 'Cause our plan really was to have one button only with a special B: Yeah , um A: So so no matter how you look at that , that would be the same .
B: But the but but but the A: The other thing would then be special material , rubber , wood , titanium .
B: I think maybe the special colour , we've got three now just because the volume buttons are different ,
D: Yeah .
B: I guess we'd have the ones which are blue at the moment would would just be the standard colour .
A: Alright .
A: So , special colour , you want three in there .
B: Yeah ,
B: which I think we should B: Yeah ,
B: they'll still be fine for the for the price .
A: Okay .
D: Well I thin I think you you you just need two for the special colour
D: 'cause it's just two supplements , you know .
D: One original colour and then sort of two supplements , I think maybe .
A: That makes sense .
B: Okay , uh that's probably it .
D: Okay .
C: Yeah .
D: So we only ne we only need two for that .
A: Okay .
D: 'Cause I mean these these are moulded .
D: The one colour's gonna be moulded out of a piece of plas uh of rubber , isn't it .
A: Okay . Yeah , I would agree with that , I think .
D: Right .