Industrial Designer: Okay . Excuse me . User Interface: Scusi . Industrial Designer: Um Okay , it's still the right thing . Okay . Um well , there are some changes in the design requirements , so there are some changes in the method also .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Um basically all this device has to do is send messages to a T_V_ set . And the m most easy way to do this is by uh sending pulses of infrared light to a T_V_ set . Well , I th I tried to uh implement a picture here ,
User Interface: Energies and uh Industrial Designer: but it's hardly readable . Can you see it ?
Project Manager: No , it's not visible .
Industrial Designer: No ? Well Um , there's a energy source here . And um basically there it's connected to three things . The user interface connected to a chip , which is connected to the sender , which generates messages using uh infrared light , which are sent to the receiver . That's basically the idea . And there's a little picture , just for your imagination , how a device like this should look or can look . Okay . Um what have I found . Usually these kind of things consist of a battery , infrared diode , buttons , chips , and circuit board . That's all . It's cased together , nothing more than that . It's almost every piece of equipment um every piece of uh every T_V_ set is controlled infrared .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: There are some exceptions , but most of all have uh infrared controls . And uh the more luxury uh remote controls have lithium buttons . And I think that's what we w
User Interface: The glow in the dark uh concept uh we discussed .
Industrial Designer: yes . In the and it's a little more a little bit more fancy also . So maybe we should consider that . Project Manager: Yeah . Okay .
Industrial Designer: Okay . I have a basic scheme of the things uh which are implemented . Um basically this is all there is . There's just one chip . There are a few buttons connected . Uh the buttons are lit . And the whole thing is transmitted by a infrared li diode , and there is not a power source here . So that's basically the total design of this piece of equipment .
Project Manager: So it's fairly easy .
Industrial Designer: There's nothing more to it . It's fairly easy . It's been done many times before ,
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Succeed in it also .
Industrial Designer: and I think we should uh we should c s succeed in in our plan to do this .
Marketing: Project Manager: Okay ,
Industrial Designer: So  Okay , so uh
Project Manager: good .
Industrial Designer: personally I think we should infra use infrared , because uh otherwise our device cannot uh communicate with uh almost every T_V_ set . So I think that uh should be clear .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh another important point is uh we really should use uh energy uh sparse , friendly components . Uh there are specially uh designed um energy-friendly components which consume uh far less power than uh conventional components . And um if we want to use uh a rechargeable design or uh a energy-save design , we should really implement them . Um for cost-effectiveness , we should really use a very low-cost uh circuit board , um because most of the production cost are are in this uh part of the equipment .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: And um the money we save on using this we can use uh for elaborate fancy lighting uh techniques , blinking LEDs and all that kind of fancy stuff .
User Interface: And what's the um Industrial Designer: I think our uh users will really uh will really like that .
User Interface: if we use the LEDs , i does it use much more energy or Industrial Designer: No , they're p f uh power friendly LEDs also .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: So we can use them . So that's no problem .
User Interface: For the same costs , it's can be uh in our Industrial Designer: Uh no , they're uh they're a little bit more expensive , but by uh um um making User Interface: Combined with the low-cost circuit board so it's uh Industrial Designer: We can we can make its I think .
Marketing: Well you could only lit uh the buttons the buttons that are used most . So , the channel switching .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , but but the question is whether um two or four buttons makes uh m makes such a difference in the costs if you already plan to uh include fancy lightning techniques , I guess .
Marketing: Or Industrial Designer: Okay .
User Interface: But I think Industrial Designer: Hmm .
User Interface: Yeah , I think it's the same as in the cell phone , just light in in the device that that shines on all the buttons ,
Marketing: Hmm , true . User Interface: and not for Industrial Designer: Yes . Well , it's not one light , it there are more lights in a in a in a mobile device .
User Interface: Yeah , but not for each button one LED , I think .
Industrial Designer: No no no , no . That's right , that's right .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: So well , this uh should be it .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Um have a think about it .
Project Manager: Yeah . Okay , Ruud .
Marketing: Oh , mine is already outdated .
Project Manager: Okay well ,
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: we ar we are very curio curious to what the market um will feel about such a product .
Marketing: Since uh Industrial Designer: Project Manager: So any income is welcome . Input .
Marketing: Okay , make Well Uh then I'm sure the target market is uh ten million units . Of  of which we should sell about uh forty percent to make the five million .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Could you step a little bit more to the right ? Yeah , thank you . Marketing: But um since uh the other part is uh forty percent of the market , I uh thought earlier we might want to constrain that portion of the market . But uh since uh the requirements changed , that's uh not a good idea .
Industrial Designer: Marketing: Uh well , skip this . Project Manager: Yeah . Industrial Designer: Marketing: Well , it's this till true , of course . That they only use ten percent the buttons . The buttons to zap are used the about uh fifteen hundred times , when uh the power button is only used one time . And the volume button's only four times . So they're obv obviously uh the most important buttons . And uh lots of people complained they kin can't find their remote control .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: So we might want to build in a feature to uh support them . Some uh audio signal . Like uh home phones .
Project Manager: Okay . Well , that's interesting .
Marketing: Or Industrial Designer: Or a find a finding function ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: you know .
Project Manager: that's definitely interesting .
Industrial Designer: That's quite a yes .
Project Manager: It uh it separates our product from others uh as well .
User Interface: Sound signal .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: go on .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Well , I just said that . And uh well , this obvious , and he also said it .
Project Manager: Okay . So that's what the market tells us .
Marketing: Uh that's about it , yes .
Project Manager: Yep . Okay .
User Interface: The volume and uh the zap buttons are the mostly used .
Marketing: Uh mo uh zap buttons most .
User Interface: So Marketing: Volume , they are uh use a lot . But more than all the other buttons . So User Interface: Yeah , well it should just have a design The perfect design for those only those buttons . And first um Industrial Designer: Yes . Yes , we should focus on that , I guess .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: Well , the technical uh there I think there are no technical difficulties . There's no um elaborate technique uh used in this uh kind of equipment . So um I don't think we have any hiccups there . So we can fully concentrate on developing a product that is really um what the market needs . So maybe it's a good idea to think about these buttons and and uh and a sound signal .
User Interface: Yeah , the sound signal . Just one thing I'm just wondering , the sound signal , from where do you execute th the s sound ?
Industrial Designer: Well
Marketing: Yeah , that's uh  a problem . Yeah . Industrial Designer: Yes . Th that's a bit of that's a problem .
User Interface: Another device is not a solution .
Project Manager: Well
Industrial Designer: Usually Project Manager: maybe maybe like clapping in your hands ,
User Interface: It should be uh uh Project Manager: like um turning on and off the the the lights .
Industrial Designer: Oh yes .
User Interface: Yeah , but maybe you'll uh get some new technologies for it .
Industrial Designer: Yes . Well , there there are some devices who uh incorporate this technique already . Um there are video sets and um they have a special button , the find the remote control button . You press it and your T_V_ set starts to make a uh kind of weird sound , and your uh remote controls then start to beep .
Project Manager: Reports rep respend response to it .
Industrial Designer: And um User Interface: just like uh the phones Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Yes . Yes , that's it . Yes , same thing .
User Interface: the Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: But uh th
User Interface: But but T_V_s don't have all uh uh buttons . Uh Industrial Designer: No , so we we should use something else .
Marketing: And you Project Manager: Yeah , because we do not have a a a a a home um User Interface: But I believe you will have an Marketing: Yeah , and usually Industrial Designer: We do not control the T_V_ set so well .
Marketing: And even if the T_V_ set would have such a button , uh you would have to walk to your T_V_ ,
Industrial Designer: Yes , m yes . S and we b we want to make so it's  is easy as possible for our customers ,
Marketing: and it's Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: so we should think about Project Manager: So what about the clapping technique ? Um because you se
User Interface: I'm convinced uh Sebastian will uh find uh one solution for us .
Industrial Designer: It's quite complicated . Well , it's quite complicated . Because how can you separate the clapping sound from other sounds .
Marketing: And b
Project Manager: Well , you see it a lot in in light uh lightning uh uh Industrial Designer: Yes , yes . Well , basically the characteristics uh the characteristics of clapping is just an increase in the volume , the amplitude of the sound ,
Project Manager: Yeah , a peak . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: which is uh generated a few times within a uh certain period of time .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But there are many other sounds uh which are exactly the same from the point of view from a remote control .
Marketing: So if if you'd be watching a movie , it would constantly beep .
Project Manager: Yeah , that's true .
Industrial Designer: Yes ,
User Interface: But we can have just uh uh a home stat uh f a base station next to the T_V_ . Just a little antenna or uh something .
Industrial Designer: so we don't want that .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: Maybe we can Something like that .
User Interface: Well if you lost th
Industrial Designer: Well ,
Project Manager: Well uh Industrial Designer: is there not something f something more easily User Interface: I don't think people would bother walking to the T_V_ and press that button because they lost the their remote .
Industrial Designer: Well , I don't think uh .
User Interface: Uh that's just uh Industrial Designer: No , and y the the most important thing for people is that there's a central point to which they can go and uh b uh perform a a some kind of uh . And then uh the remote control uh reports itself ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: so w we should use have uh we should use something like that . You do not want another device , which can be uh everywhere in the house , which you have to find first before you can find your remote control .
User Interface: just a base station next to the T_V_ is the best possibility .
Industrial Designer: Yes , something like that . But that will be very costly , I think .
Project Manager: Yeah , m maybe um w we uh we do agree on on the thing that the remote should have such a function , if it's possible within the costs and all that kind of things .
Industrial Designer: So that's not a good idea .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Um maybe Sebastian should have uh a detailed look later on and um come up with a solution ,
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . I will .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: because that's his his field of expertise .
Industrial Designer: Yes . Yes . But um before I do that I w I want to warn you that uh by implementing this kind of a function the technical design will become more complicated
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: um and it will become more costly also .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: Because there will be additional components which which uh will be used . And there are some implepe imp
User Interface: And do we even uh prefer the sound above the the LEDs , the lightning uh function ?
Industrial Designer: Well , I I think so , because um when you have a p newspaper over your remote control , you cannot see it .
User Interface: It's a unique item uh Project Manager: Yeah , it's a distinction in the market .
Industrial Designer: So User Interface: It will be an a unique feature of our remote control .
Project Manager: It's a different exactly . It's an uni an unique feature ,
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: and um I think um it's worth um uh looking and and probably more i interesting than uh than the lights .