A: Okay . Uh first of all I'll start with the costs ,
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B: A: because that's going to influence our design .
B: Oh no .
D: Oh , . A: If you A: Don't know if you al already had a look or not ?
C: Did you do your questionnaire already ?
B: No n I I already did it .
D: No .
B: It's not much .
B: It's just one question .
A: Because we have a problem .
C: Uh D: Oh .
D: A: If you look closely , you can see .
B: Yeah .
C: It wants A: Um I already took the liberty to make some suggestions .
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A: .
A: At the moment we have fifteen buttons , one L_C_D_ screen , one advanced chip-on-print .
A: We use a uh sensor , that's for the speech .
A: Uh we use kinetic energy .
A: And we wanted uh the buttons in a special colour .
A: Okay . What's the first thing we should drop ?
A: The special colour of the buttons ?
B: No that's that's for the trendy uh feel and look . So A: Okay .
C: Yeah but everything is .
A: Uh A: Should we switch to a hand dynamo ?
B: A: Uh that's the still the same idea as the kinetic energy because you have to use it and do things .
D: No .
B: Yeah , b but D: Yeah but young people like that .
D: So just do normal battery .
A: Batteries ?
A: Batteries .
B: I think the battery option .
C: Just a normal battery then , yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: .
D: It has to be twelve and a half .
A: Yeah .
D: Or not ? B: Oh . C: Oh my goodness .
A: So A: You're going to redesign something .
D: B: Oh no .
A: Okay , so we're at twenty five .
D: Uh , yeah . A: Um A: Do we keep the shape doubly curved or g do we go for single curved ?
C: Well I guess i we'll have to go for single curve then .
C: I mean we have to drop on everything .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: But we can keep it single curved with uh top view still curved , but from the side it's it's flat ,
A: Uh D: and the screen screen is just C: Yeah .
D: Well you just have to hold it like this then . So A: Yeah .
C: How about A: Um C: Sorry .
A: Uh another option I saw was to drop the buttons one through nine , so you can't directly access a channel , but instead use only the up and down arrows .
C: That's what I was thinking .
A: That would skip nine buttons and four and a half Euros .
B: Yeah .
D: Alright .
A: Yeah ?
D: Let's do it then . Yeah .
C: A a
A: Uh then we have left D: we B: But we don't have any basic options any more .
D: A: Uh yeah . We do .
C: And uh 'cause then they don't have to n They don't need special colour as well .
D: F_ eight .
A: They don't need special colours .
A: Fine . That's more like it .
D: Yeah .
B: A: You were saying something .
C: That was exactly my point . Like let's drop all the buttons , and just make one
A: Yeah .
C: I mean we're gonna use the L_C_D_ screen anyway . So we'll just have to use it for everything .
A: Mm-hmm .
A: Yeah .
C: And then you can make an overview of channels in the screen , and select a channel , click A: Yeah , some more menu options . Yeah .
C: A: Okay so maybe we can drop few more buttons .
A: But um A: Now let's look .
B: Yeah we c could B: We only need the the the the the menu arrow arrow button uh thing .
C: B: Everything you can do with with the menu . So With the display .
A: Mm-hmm .
C: Yeah
C: we need one integrated button for everything then .
B: Yeah .
D: The joystick .
A: Uh C: Yeah . Kind of .
C: I was Because D: C: Yeah .
A: Yeah , scroll-wheel , push-button uh D: Integrated scroll-wheel push-button , yeah .
C: If you if you go to C: If you go to our uh view ,
C: like you if you are in the sound system there , uh and you wanna adjust the treble for instance ,
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: this is just uh an example ,
A: Mm-hmm .
C: y y you wanna see a bar on which you can adjust it from zero to ten for example .
A: Mm-hmm .
A: Mm-hmm .
C: But you want a sound preview of how it's gonna sound ,
C: right ?
C: So you wanna click on it , activate it , whe and when you move it , hear the difference of the treble coming out or going into the sound .
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: So you'll you'll need a a kind of a joystick uh button .
D: Yeah
D: or or the integrated scroll-wheel push-button .
C: Yeah .
D: So that's kind of on your mouse
D: and then you can click it , adjust it , click again and then you're out of it .
D: But you still C: Exactly .
D: But you then still need to have D: Well you can use the scroll-wheel as well for um maybe for the channels .
D: But you still um C: Yeah it's r Yeah .
D: You still have to have some some button in the menu to go back .
B: So you do one inte
B: You can do one integrated scroll-wheel push-button .
D: Yeah .
B: And then just drop all the other buttons .
A: Uh yeah .
D: Well not all .
D: Not s not sound I guess .
B: But but th the cost of one integrated button is far more than a few extra push-buttons .
C: No .
A: Yeah .
A: It's uh A: One integrated button is five times the cost of a normal button .
D: B: Yeah .
D: Mm .
B: So we have to to make it s uh more uh It has to be A: So A: You could also drop j three more of these , without losing much functionality .
D: Yeah .
A: You just drop the Okay and the Back .
D: Wh wh what what what is the
D: what is the uh sample sensor sample speaker ?
A: Oh , that's for the speech .
D: Speech recognition .
A: Yeah .
B: Could drop the speech recognition . D: Right .
A: S s Drop speech recognition ?
C: C: No but A: Yeah that's possible . B: We we d
C: Yeah it's it's expensive , but uh we never considered the possibilities of uh speech recognition .
C: 'Cause it can take the function of a lot of uh uh buttons .
A: Buttons .
D: Buttons .
A: That's not very easy to use .
B: Yeah .
C: I
D: No , it can be disturbed by by noise and
C: No .
C: Yeah but lets just say that the speech recognition works .
D: stuff like that .
A: D: Let let let me see what's more what's more popular .
D: I guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition .
B: Yeah .
D: I have to look on that . Let me see .
D: D: Uh well no I was wrong .
A: D: There are more people who like speech recognition than an L_C_D_ screen .
A: Yep .
A: Okay .
A: Because if you d lose the L_C_D_ screen , we need a lot of D: But if it D: But it it it's a it's a both a hypers
B: We lose our whole concept .
B: Uh so No we just A: Yeah .
A: We need a lot of extra buttons .
D: No , but B: We keep the L_C_D_ .
D: Well we Yeah we keep the screen .
D: I mean it's it's about the same . Eight one to ninety one percent , uh sixty six to seventy six .
C: We uh we we haven't really integrated this the speech into the system ,
A: Okay
A: so we drop the speech .
C: so we can might as well s drop that . A: And drop it yeah ?
D: Yeah . Let's drop the speech .
B: Yeah .
A: Okay .
A: S Fo Four less Euros .
D: Sixteen Euros .
A: So we still have three and a half Euro to lose .
B: C: We need to lose some buttons .
D: But y y
A: Yeah
A: if you lose the the Back , the Okay button Uh v let's say we only have the four arrows , and the Menu button .
D: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: Then you're D: And then and then use um A: Oh and the power button we have also .
D: The the D: Okay .
D: And the menu button does also does the okay function then .
A: Yeah .
D: And then when you in the menu A: So that's one Euro .
D: S so so you activate the menu .
B: If we do uh two integrated scroll-wheel push-buttons , we can drop all the the push-buttons .
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah ?
B: With with one uh integrated button we can uh do the whole menu thing .
A: And  D: Yeah yeah . B: With the other , we can do the the channel , the volume , et cetera .
D: Yeah . .
A: That would save zero point two Euros compared to A: No .
B: No it's three Euros .
B: No ? Um A: Yeah .
B: No it's it's n Yeah .
A: To This together is more expensive than Oof , it's almost the same as t keeping this .
B: Yeah yeah yeah . D: Well okay .
A: And we can drop these two .
D: For example if you have f f four buttons , channel up and down , uh volume left right B: It's the A: Volume .
D: Okay , I've I think we have to keep that .
A: And the power button .
D: And then D: and the power button . So that's five .
A: That's the basic .
D: That's basic . That that's what you need anyway .
D: And then for the menu , um you can have a button that activates menu .
D: Or d or do we just integrate an an an scroll-wheel with a push-button .
D: And then if the moment you use the scroll-wheel , the the the menu gets activated ,
D: and then you can scroll , choose an option , click on it , it goes into an feature .
D: Click on it again , selects features , scroll , adjust it .
D: Click again , it's okay .
D: Then you only need one button to move back .
D: Or or under each option , you set a you set an a screen thing what says back , and you select that one , click again , and you go one step back .
D: And in that menu , scroll , click , one step back .