Industrial Designer: That's the finance .
Project Manager: Okay and we we had a project prototype presentation with the evaluation . So as we all agree to accept , under certain conditions , the prototype , we'll have look to the final sh financial view .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Mm . Okay .
Project Manager: So we need to calculate the production cost . As I said in the first meeting we need to have so a remote control that would cost not more than twelve and point fifty Euros .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: And if not if it's not the case y you would have to redesign it .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Oh yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: So , just have a look at the okay here is the Excel sheet , so
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: so it has the energy source . We have hand dynamo . No , we don't use that .
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: We have battery , right ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , we have battery .
Project Manager: Kinetic , we don't have it , I suppose ,
Industrial Designer: No ,
Project Manager: but we have solar cells .
Industrial Designer: um solar cells , yeah .
Project Manager: Um , how many do y do you need , solar cells ? Do you think one would be enough , or such as as number of branches ?
Industrial Designer: Uh I think in each ball you have three Project Manager: Three ?
Industrial Designer: three uh yeah , three , yeah . Three three solar cells .
Project Manager: So , electronic . Single simple chip on print ? Just one would be necessary ?
Industrial Designer: S s simple , simple , yeah .
Project Manager: One ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Zero for the others . And sample sensor , sample speaker . One ?
Industrial Designer: Mm . One maybe , yeah .
Project Manager: As we have voice recognition , I think .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah yeah .
Project Manager: So the case .
Industrial Designer: Is it Marketing:  Industrial Designer: Is sh it Marketing: So we are all already nineteen .
Industrial Designer: Wooden . Project Manager:  Okay ,
User Interface: Project Manager: just keep on going , just to have an idea .
User Interface: The solar cell is too expensive . Industrial Designer: Marketing: Yeah . Industrial Designer: Is Yes a wooden pl I and that's Project Manager: Well uh Industrial Designer: There's no wood , so plastic just only , I think .
Project Manager: yeah , but what what about case ? Uncurved , flat , single curved , double curved . I think it's more like double curved .
Marketing: That's gonna be double curved , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Double curve , yeah , double curve .
Project Manager: One ?
Industrial Designer: One , you have .
Project Manager: Uh wood ? Industrial Designer: But it's yeah , a a rubber uh Marketing: Rather four buttons .
Project Manager: Uh do we need special colour ?
Marketing: Oh no , interface .
Project Manager: Y maybe , two ? We have two special colours .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah . Y y yeah , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah that's special colours , sure .
Project Manager: Push button .
User Interface: Mm . Yeah , we have four .
Industrial Designer: Five ?
User Interface: Five . Project Manager: Okay . Scroll wheel . We don no .
User Interface: No .
Project Manager: It it's more like integrated scor .
Industrial Designer: I think that this will be like a scroll wheel , actually .
User Interface: No no .
Marketing: Yeah tha that's wheel .
Industrial Designer: Y you tu you turn you turn it , so User Interface: No no no , it  Okay .
Project Manager: Yeah , maybe two scroll wheel , as we have the coarse coarse to fine scroll wheel .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , true . Yeah , yeah . Yeah . Okay , yeah , yeah . Scr
Project Manager: So , no button supplements ?
Marketing: I think the price is okay .
User Interface: No .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Um , no .
Project Manager: Okay we I think we have problem . Industrial Designer: L_C_ display , maybe . Interface .
Project Manager: I think we s if we keep on adding things Industrial Designer: It's okay .  fine .
Project Manager: so we have to Marketing: Yeah w one of the m key point is solar cells .
Project Manager: Maybe if w t if suppose if we change and we g put just one ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Has it changed .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Yeah , it was stage one , so .
Marketing: No y i it did change , but
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: We have change the electronics to from from the the the sample sensor to regular chip . Oh .
Marketing: just imagine we have Industrial Designer: So User Interface: We have to delete the the sample sensor , I think .
Project Manager: Yeah , but we have you the the voice recognition ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: no ?
Marketing: Yeah but this one one of the feature we were not really User Interface: Yeah it's the one it's Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: m maybe we ha we have two versions , the first version , the basic version .
Industrial Designer: I think you can transform the wood into plastic , maybe .
User Interface: Advanced version we have speak .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Because uh it seems that this can be Marketing: Yeah , if Project Manager: Or it would be better .
Industrial Designer: yeah , wood into plastic and it it should be fine .
User Interface: Plastic is free . Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: So , do we need special colour ?
Marketing: Yeah , that's one of the requirement .
Project Manager: Because we have red .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , red and yellow .
Project Manager: Red and yellow .
User Interface: Wait .
Industrial Designer: Fancy .
User Interface: We we can we can we c Marketing: We could turn we could turn everything in either yellow or black .
User Interface: yellow .
Marketing: Black then is a regular colour , so .
Project Manager: I think so we need if we try to have a kind of
Industrial Designer: Marketing: Yeah , one .
Project Manager: pineapple bee . Industrial Designer: Marketing: Yeah . So push button then it's it's the next expensive one .
Project Manager: Yeah . An but we have integrated scroll wheel with push dut button . And I think this is one . Integrated scroll wheel push button
Marketing: Yeah , thi this might be .
Project Manager: . So we'll we have only one ? And push button .
Marketing: Close to .
Project Manager: So if we have all integrated i in the scroll wheel and push button , it's uh Industrial Designer: One . I can remove maybe f you have five with push buttons , so we can just , I dunno , try to modify some of them to have yeah .
Marketing: Okay , so what's the bottleneck ?
User Interface: How about we change the sale ?
Marketing: Double curved .
Industrial Designer: Double curve . We can transform the double curve into single c yeah .
Project Manager: Something flat .
Industrial Designer: F some Marketing: Yeah , but flat Project Manager: S uncurved . Yeah , maybe not .
Industrial Designer: Single curve .
Marketing: Case , what's the ca
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Single curve should be fine , so . Oh , what  Project Manager: Mm . Nearly .
User Interface: Ah we have one  Marketing: And then one Euro left .
Industrial Designer: Marketing: Um .
Project Manager: Maybe don't bat no battery , only solar cells .
Industrial Designer: It's it's a bad idea , so . User Interface: Marketing: Um Project Manager: I think there's a problem with the push push button . We only need maybe just one .
Industrial Designer: Two ?
Project Manager: Just one .
Industrial Designer: One . User Interface: Marketing: Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: That's fine . That's fine . User Interface: Okay . Okay . Agree .
Project Manager: So yeah , you will have Marketing: So we have one button ,
Industrial Designer: One s one scroll wheel , so
Marketing: one wheel .
Project Manager: So one button , and s scroll wheel with push button on it .
Marketing: Industrial Designer:  And the vocal chord , it's fine . It I th it's fine .
Project Manager: So Marketing: It's good they're not charging anything for that . Industrial Designer: User Interface: Project Manager: So , yeah . It think we we've done good job , as the cost is
User Interface: Cou could we have look Project Manager: twelve fifty e
User Interface: Could we have look at the p the the prod the p the cost ?
Marketing: Yeah y actually it's wrong . We're not under twelve Euros and a half .
Project Manager: Yeah , but it's under or equal . It's not written . Sometimes it's under or equal .
Industrial Designer: It's fine . It's under or equal . It's fine , so Marketing: Okay . Okay .
Project Manager: User Interface: Okay . So let's say Project Manager: Twelve fifty .
User Interface: Wha what Industrial Designer: It's fine , twelve fifty uh User Interface: yeah . Which part is the most expensive part ? Marketing: Solar cells .
Project Manager: Yeah , I think .
Industrial Designer: The solar cells , r is i is it ?
User Interface: Yeah , I think it's not t t
Project Manager: I think , yeah . But it would i be interesting for our marketing team , to make a lot of advertisement concerning these solar cells to be Industrial Designer: Yeah , to be able to si to sell it .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Cheaper .
Marketing: That's nice argument ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah , with mi
Marketing: but if it's it's still four our of twelve .
Industrial Designer: It's it is really really uh really very very expensive , though .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Maybe if uh okay .
Project Manager: Yeah but it will be technologically innova innovative , so . User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah but we just have one button . Industrial Designer: User Interface: Project Manager: So it's easy to use and powerful , as the remote control a has only one button .
Marketing: Easy . I don't know about powerful . Yeah .
Project Manager: Easy , powerful .
Industrial Designer: It's easy to use . It's very easy to use .  User Interface: Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: So I don't think we need to redesign the p the product .
Industrial Designer: No .
Marketing: Uh that's what we've just done .
Industrial Designer: We've done it with it is under the if it was low , high or so .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: So Marketing: Um okay .
Project Manager: Now Industrial Designer: So So what are we going to do with this project evaluation ?
Project Manager: So Marketing: Well I think we have just have to discuss if Industrial Designer: Okay , okay , it's fine .
Marketing: I dunno .
Project Manager: So did you enjoy your clay modelling ?
User Interface: Yes . Of course . This is my job . Project Manager: Yeah ? Was it a nice way to create your remote control ?
Industrial Designer: User Interface: Yeah , it's uh it's good , to to create a control instead of a computer . Project Manager: Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think I find it really funny and amazing and interesting to go through all the process to from the beginning to the end . And designing , looking at the chips , the solar cells and uh and it was very informative for .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: And for the marketing guy ?
Marketing: Uh tha that was good but we should have more brainstorming like meetings , maybe .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
Marketing: 'Cause we just presenting one is presenting his stuff
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: next one his stuff and then we try to combine afterwards , so it um .
Industrial Designer: Okay , okay .
Project Manager: And new ideas about new products , maybe , wi which would be fashion and uh and yellow . Industrial Designer: Yellow . I think you can think about a yellow T_V_ now after  a fruit T_V_ or I dunno .
User Interface: Project Manager: User Interface: Industrial Designer: It can be an interesting I don't know Project Manager: Yes , just lemon .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , just a lemon T_V_ it'd be yellow lemon .
User Interface: Yeah , but y you know the traditional T_V_ it's um Industrial Designer: It's flat , uh User Interface: Yeah yeah it's flat ,
Project Manager: Squared ?
User Interface: yeah the shape is very boring .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's right . It's really boring , yeah .
User Interface: Could we come up with new T_V_ with such as this kind of T_V_ ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah . User Interface: So you can  you have base , triangle base so you the T_V_ you can Marketing: Project Manager: Ah , the lemon T_V_ with the pineapple remote control .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's that would be really interesting , actually .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah . Because the T_V_ you also Project Manager: Oh , that's interesting . You could f we could do a kind of fruit collection of electronics things . Electronic device .
Industrial Designer:  Device devi
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , but just don't trust too much the trends .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The fruit ? Yeah .
Project Manager: Maybe Marketing: 'Cause fruit and vegetables it won't last for ten years uh .
Project Manager: Yeah , maybe la next year it will be insects .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it's Marketing: Maybe two years it's dead .
User Interface: Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But I think it's good to follow the f flow and you know make it now and after , you know , if the people change their mind you change also the product .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah , but this is good because it's not a long long life product .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: T_V_ is more like fifteen years , maybe , so .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah . That's a yeah , yeah .
Marketing: If you have a lemon lemon T_V_ for
Industrial Designer: We can think about T_V_ with you know where you can change you know the aspects o like for the cell phones , you know .
Marketing: fifteen years Project Manager: Customable T_V_ .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , you customise it every ti so every ti if people change , you just change the appearance , and y y you can keep User Interface: Marketing: Yeah , yeah .
Project Manager: Ah such yeah . You've already said mobile phones .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Tha that would that would make it . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , you can keep the global appearan
Project Manager: Yeah , and following Industrial Designer: The mood of persons , the fashions uh Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: It's interesting , maybe we can create a a line of uh T_V_ with uh a a tr
Industrial Designer: We int   Yeah , T_V_ , yeah . A T_V_ for autumn and a T_V_ for winter , you know , so it's  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: User Interface: Industrial Designer: So what i and do w is it  Okay .
Project Manager: So I think the costs are within the budget . We're just at twelve fifty Euros .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , the pr at User Interface: Yep .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: So
User Interface: Marketing: Industrial Designer: Project Manager: do you think you can celebrate your creation ?
User Interface: And you can celebrate your leadership . Project Manager: Oh , thanks a lot . Thank you , mister David Jordan . Industrial Designer: Yeah but I think f it's really a celebrating object . So it's yellow and very a very ha it's very happy , so .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: Uh it's it's a pr it's like yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . It's party party remote control .
Project Manager: The thing now is to to sell it .
Industrial Designer: User Interface: Yeah , it's your job . Project Manager: Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
Marketing: User Interface: Sell it . Industrial Designer: right , go and sell it . Goo and good luck , so  Marketing: Yeah . User Interface: Yeah . Okay and the twelve fifty twelve uh twelve Industrial Designer: Marketing: Uh-huh . Twenty five Euros .
User Interface: Twenty five Euros , yeah .
Industrial Designer: It should be fine .
Marketing: Yeah , I think it's  Project Manager: It's maybe a little bit expensive . User Interface: Twenty five Euros .
Marketing: It's cheap , yeah . No , I User Interface: No , it's not so expensive .