PhD F: Yeah .
Professor D: I w we will we will not ask you more .
Grad B: ri
Undergrad E: Right .
PhD F: Right .
Undergrad E: That 's enough .
Grad C: I don't know . What is the uh the the English co uh um cognate if you want , for " Sankt Nimmerlandstag " ?
Grad B: Keine Ahnung
Grad C: Sort of " We 'll do it on when you say on that d day it means it 'll never happen .
Professor D: Yeah .
Grad B: OK .
Professor D: Right .
Grad C: Do you have an expression ? Probably you sh
Grad B: Not that I know of actually .
Grad C: Yeah , when hell Yep , we 'll do it when hell freezes over .
Professor D: Yeah .
Grad C: So maybe that should be another property in there .
PhD F: Right .
Professor D: Yeah . Yeah .
Undergrad E: Never .
Professor D: No .
Grad C: OK . Um , the reason why why do we go there in the first place IE uh it 's either uh for sightseeing , for meeting people , for running errands , or doing business . Entertainment is a good one in there , I think . I agree .
Grad B: So , business is supposed to uh , be sort of it like professional type stuff , right , or something like that ?
Grad C: Yep .
Grad B: OK . Um .
Grad C: I mean this w this is uh an old uh Johno thing . He sort of had it in there . " Who is the the tour is the person ? " So it might be a tourist ,
Grad B: Mm - hmm .
Grad C: it might be a business man who 's using the system , who wants to sort of go to some Grad B: Yeah .
Professor D: Yeah , or or both .
Grad B: Yeah . Yeah , I mean like for example my my father is about to travel to Prague .
Grad C: Yep .
Grad B: He 'll be there for two weeks . He is going to uh He 's there to teach a course at the business school but he also is touring around and so he may have some mixture of these things .
Grad C: Yep .
Professor D: Mmm .
Grad C: Yep .
Professor D: Sure . Right .
Grad C: He would PhD F: What ab What do you have in mind in terms of um socializing ? What kind of activities ?
Grad C: Eh , just meeting people , basically . " I want to meet someone somewhere " , which be puts a very heavy constraint on the " EVA "
PhD F: Oh Grad B: Yeah .
Grad C: you know , because then if you 're meeting somebody at the town hall , you 're not entering it usually , you 're just want to approach it .
Grad B: So I mean , does this capture , like , where do you put " Exchange money " is an errand , right ? But what about uh Grad C: Yep .
Professor D: Mm - hmm
Grad B: So , like " Go to a movie " is now entertainment , " Dine out " is PhD F: Socializing , I guess .
Professor D: No , I I well , I dunno . Let Let well , we 'll put it somewhere ,
Grad B: So I mean Right .
Professor D: but but um I would say that if " Dine out " is a special c uh if you 're doing it for that purpose then it 's entertainment .
Grad B: Yeah .
Professor D: And we 'll also as y as you 'll s further along we 'll get into business about " Well , you 're you know this is going over a meal time , do you wanna stop for a meal or pick up food or something ? "
Grad B: Mm - hmm .
Professor D: And that 's different . That 's that 's sort of part of th that 's not a destination reason , that 's sort of " en passant , " right .
Grad B: Right .
Grad C: That goes with the " energy depletion " function , blech .
Grad B: Yeah .
Professor D: Right , yeah .
Grad C: OK , " endpoint " .
Grad B: " Tourist needs food , badly "

Summary: A detailed diagram of the EVA belief-net was presented and some of the intermediate nodes and their properties were discussed in depth. Some of the key features and properties are: "Go-there", which is binary, and defined by the user, situation, ontology and discourse models; "timing" (current/next tour); "reason" (business, sight-seeing, socialising); "transport"; "length of tour"; "costs"; "entity" (open, accessible) etc.