Professor D: So  so the question {comment} that that we started with was whether there was anything else we should do during during th during the collection .
PhD B: Ow .
Professor D: And I guess the CrossPads was certainly one idea , uh , and we 'll get them from him and we 'll just do that . Right ? And then the next thing we talked about was the was the summaries and are we gonna do anything about that .
Professor A: Well , before we leave the CrossPads and and call it done .
Professor D: Oh , OK .
Professor A: So , if I 'm collecting data then there is this question of do I use CrossPads ?
Professor D: Yeah .
Professor A: So , I think that if we really seriously have me collect data and I can't use CrossPads , it 's probably less useful for you guys to go to the trouble of using it , um , unless you think that the CrossPads are gonna n I 'm not I 'm not sure what they 're gonna do . But but having a small percentage of the data with it , I 'm not sure whether that 's useful or not . Maybe maybe it 's no big deal .
Professor D: What Professor A: Maybe we just do it and see what happens .
Professor D: I guess the point was to try again , to try to collect more information that could be useful later for for the UI stuff .
Professor A: Mm - hmm .
Professor D: So it 's sort of Landay supplying it so that Landay 's stuff can be easier to do .
Professor A: Right .
Professor D: So it it Right now he 's g operating from zero ,
Professor A: Nothing .
Professor D: and so even if we didn't get it done from UW , it seems like that would could still You shou
Professor A: OK .
Professor D: I mean , at least try it .
PhD B: I think it 'd be useful to have a small amount of it just as a proof of concept .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD B: It will Professor A: Right . OK .
PhD B: You know , what you can do with things .
Grad G: And and they seem to not be able to give enough of them away , so we could probably get more as well .
PhD B: Yeah . But not not to rely on them for basic modeling .
Professor A: That 's true . So if it if it seems to be really useful to you guys , we could probably get a donation to me .
Grad G: Yeah , I 'm not sure . I think it it it will again depend on Landay , and if he has a student who 's interested , and how much infrastructure we 'll need . I mean , if it 's easy , we can just do it .
Professor D: Yeah .
Grad G: Um , but if it requires a lot of our time , we probably won't do it .
Professor A: Right .
Professor D: I guess a lot of the stuff we 're doing now really is pilot in one sense or another .
Grad G: Yeah . Yeah , we have to sort of figure out what we 're gonna do .
Professor D: And so we try it out and see how it works .
Grad G: Right .
Professor A: Yeah .
PhD B: I just wouldn't base any of the modeling on having those .
Professor A: Right .
PhD B: Yeah .
Grad G: Right . I ag I think I agree with that .
PhD B: It 's just Professor A: Right . OK .
Grad G: I think , though , the importance marking is a good idea , though . That if if people have something in front of them PhD B: I 'd be sort of cool . I mean , it would Yeah . That w shouldn't be hard for Grad G: Yeah . Do it on pilots or laptops or something . OK , if something 's important everyone clap .
Professor A: OK . So CrossPads , we 're just gonna try it and see what happens .
Professor D: OK .
Grad G: Yeah . Um , I think that 's right .
Professor A: OK .
Professor D: OK .
Professor A: The note - taking So , I I think that this is gonna be useful . So if we record data I will definitely ask for it . So , I j I think we should just say this is not we don't want to put any extra burden on people , but if they happen to generate minutes , could could they send it to us ?
Grad G: Yeah . Oh , OK . That 's fine . Absolutely .
Professor C: Mm - hmm .
Professor D: Mm - hmm .
Professor A: And then Grad G: Yeah . What I was gonna say is that I don't want to ask people to do something they wouldn't normally do in a meeting . It 's ver I just want to keep away from the artificiality .
Professor D: Mm - hmm .
Grad G: But I think it definitely if they exist . And then Jane 's idea of summarization afterward I think is not a bad one . Um , picking out basically to let you pick out keywords , um , and , uh , construct queries .
Professor D: So who who does this summarization ?
Postdoc H: Yeah , I 'm thinking that Grad G: People in the meeting .
Postdoc H: Yeah .
Grad G: You know , just at at the end of the meeting , before you go ,
Postdoc H: Uh - huh .
PhD B: Without hearing each other though , probably .
Grad G: go around the table .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD E: Yeah .
PhD F: Or even just have one or two people stay behind .
Grad G: Yeah . Ugh . Yeah .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD E: People with radio mikes can go into separate rooms and continue recording without hearing each other . That 's the nice thing .
PhD B: Well , then you should try them a few weeks later
Postdoc H: How fascinating .
PhD B: and They have all these memory experiments about how little you actually retain
Grad G: And see score them ?
PhD E: That 's right . Well , that 's the interesting thing , though .
PhD B: and wasn't PhD E: If we do if we collect four different summaries , you know , we 're gonna get all this weird data about how people perceive things differently .
Grad G: Oh .
PhD E: It 's like {comment} this is not what we meant to research .
Grad G: Hmm .
PhD B: Right , right .
Professor D: Oh . Yeah .
Postdoc H: That could be very interesting .
Professor A: Mm - hmm .
PhD F: Hmm .
Postdoc H: Yeah .
Professor A: But but again , like the CrossPads , I don't think I would base a lot of stuff on it ,
Professor D: Ru
Grad G: I d yeah , I don't know how you would do it , though .
Professor A: because I think I know when I see the the clock coming near the end of the meeting , I 'm like inching towards the door .
Grad G: Mm - hmm . Running to Yeah ,
Professor A: So ,
Grad G: fff !
PhD E: Hmm .
Professor A: you 're probably not gonna get a lot of people wanting to do this .
Grad G: Maybe e Is email easier ?
Postdoc H: Well , I think if Grad G: I mean , I when you first said do do it , um , spoken , what I was thinking is , oh then people have to come up
Postdoc H: Mm - hmm .
Grad G: and you have to hook them up to the recorder . So , if they 're already here I think that 's good ,
Professor A: Right .
Grad G: but if they 're not already here for I 'd rather do email . I 'm much faster typing than anything else .
Postdoc H: Yeah , I 'd just try Well , however the least intrusive and and quickest way is , and th and closest to the meeting time too , cuz people will start to forget it as soon as they l leave .
Grad G: Yeah .
Professor A: Yeah . I think that I think doing it orally at the end of the meeting is the best time .
Grad G: I don't know . At Professor A: I just don't Postdoc H: Mm - hmm .
Professor A: because they 're kind of a captive audience . Once they leave ,
Grad G: Mm - hmm .
Professor A: you know , forget it . But but i
Grad G: Yeah , read the digits , do the summary .
Professor A: Right . But , uh , I don't think that they 'll necessarily you 'll you 'll get many people willing to stay .
Professor D: Hmm .
Professor A: But , you know , if you get even one Postdoc H: w
Professor D: Well , I think it 's like the note - taking thing ,
Postdoc H: I would s Yeah .
Professor D: that that y that you can't certainly can't require it or people aren't gonna want to do this . But but if there 's some cases where they will , then it would be helpful .
PhD F: Hmm .
Postdoc H: And I 'm also wondering , couldn't that be included in the data sample so that you could increase the num you know , the words that are , uh , recognized by a particular individual ? If you could include the person 's meeting stuff and also the person 's summary stuff , maybe that would be uh ,
PhD E: Yeah . It 's kind of nice .
Postdoc H: an ad addition to their database .
PhD E: Yeah .
Professor D: Hmm .
Postdoc H: Under the same acoustic circumstance , cuz if they just walk next door with their set - up , nothing 's changed ,
PhD E: Right .
Postdoc H: just PhD F: So I have a question about queries ,
Grad G: God , that 's bugging me .
PhD F: which is , um ,
Grad G: Can we turn that light off ?
Postdoc H: You turn PhD F: uh Grad G: If can we turn that just that that let Professor D: The fl the fluorescent light is flickering .
Postdoc H: Uh , let the record show the light is flickering .
PhD F: I don't know .
Professor A: Yeah .
Grad G: Yeah , there 's a PhD B: Oh , it is it is like OK .
Professor D: Yeah .
Professor A: Yeah .
Grad G: Very annoying .
PhD F: There you go . OK .
Grad G: Oh , much better .
Professor A: For a little while I thought it was just that I was really tired .
Professor C: Oh , yeah .
Professor D: Yeah .
Professor C: That 's better .
PhD F: Good .
Professor A: That and y {comment} Too much caffeine and really tired ,
Grad G: Too much caffeine .
Professor A: but then I thought " no , maybe that 's real " .
Professor D: OK .
PhD F: So ,
Grad G: I thought it was the projector for a moment . It was like , " what 's going on ? "
Professor D: Yeah .