Marketing: Mm . So So Yeah . So , my uh presentation is about trend-watching . Uh , I did some trend-watching . It's very important to uh keep up with latest trends . 'Cause if you don't , you won't sell . So , well how we did do that ? Uh , well we made an investigation of the market , by Trendwatchers . They uh watch in uh cities like uh Paris and Milan . Of course , well known for their uh trend uh trends . And well , uh what did you find ? Uh , we have two groups , young and trendy , and the old and rich . Well th and the young and trendy , they uh they starting to like uh fruit and vegetables uh as a theme for n uh clothes , shoes , and also uh products . And um , material ? That should feel have uh a spongy feeling . And to get a feeling for what it is , uh here is an image of it . Then the old and rich . They like uh dark colours , and simple , recognisable shapes .
Industrial Designer: Marketing: And um , they also like uh familiar material , uh especially wood . Now , another picture .
User Interface: Marketing: To get a feeling for this . Well , uh then already come to my personal preferences . We uh aim at the younger market . So , we should also be uh look at their uh trends . However , with trends it's always if there's it's now . It it it might last one year , and next year it be uh can be totally different . And I think we want to sell our product for longer than one year . So , we m must not just only look at what the trend is now , as it might be totally different next year . So , that's uh one thing to keep in mind .
Industrial Designer: Changing covers . User Interface: Marketing: Project Manager: Marketing: Yeah . Any questions ?
Industrial Designer: Nope .
Project Manager: No . It's clear .
User Interface: No .
Project Manager: So now , it's uh  Ah , let's see . Now , w we have to decide Well , we have to decide on the concept . So , we have to look at 'S next . Components and user interface concept . So Now , we have to make some concept . Maybe one of you can paint it on the board . First , uh user interface .
Industrial Designer: Uh , uh-uh . How w how we how we make it ? Uh Project Manager: Yes , a concept on uh  Industrial Designer: Marketing: Project Manager: Just Industrial Designer: Shouldn't we first discuss about like what w we all Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , but maybe we can paint it . Uh , what do we want ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but if I paint with Project Manager: I'll paint . Okay .
Industrial Designer: Marketing: Project Manager: Well Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Something like this ? Or Shapes or What do we need ?
User Interface: Mm , yes . What ?
Marketing: Can make several uh concepts .
Project Manager: Yes , okay .
Marketing: We have this , and we had the idea of an um a more uh uh uh like sh in the shape of your hand .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: More like something Marketing: Yeah I I I uh yes . User Interface: Industrial Designer: M like Yeah I can't dr I can't draw it .
Project Manager: And you have to .
Industrial Designer: Uh  Marketing: User Interface: Industrial Designer: I have to .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I'm not a designer . It's more three D_ . Like , um when you have a part here . This is the remote control . And then you have something like th this under it . So , it's easier to get it like this .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager:  User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer:  It's like a gun . Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Marketing: A g Project Manager: So , it has to be soft ?
Marketing: Mm . .
Industrial Designer: And it has to be soft , yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . And uh , the buttons ?
Industrial Designer: So , you can squeeze in it and Sorry ?
Project Manager: Buttons .
Industrial Designer: Buttons on top of it . And here . The scrolling . You can do it with your thumb .
Project Manager: No , it won't .
Industrial Designer: User Interface: But but i that's the only scroll uh button on it then ?
Industrial Designer: But now we use one scroll button and the other one is here . One till uh uh zero till nine .
User Interface: Yeah , okay .
Project Manager: But , well there one for the sound and one for the channels .
User Interface: But but how Industrial Designer: And the b
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: User Interface: Yeah . How Industrial Designer: Yeah ? Or two buttons .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Uh , two scroll uh wheels .
Marketing: And i if we go to uh  Industrial Designer: If uh 'Kay c If we do If we use one , then we'll have just a switch on it , and you'll just switch it , and now it's the sound to switch back
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: Project Manager: That's th that's more difficult .
Marketing: But if we have uh a me Yeah .
Project Manager: It's better in Marketing: If we have a menu , uh how do we uh choose other options ?
Industrial Designer: with the menu uh button . And then you also can scroll uh scroll in it . Just not like all the other ones , with uh this thing , and uh here an arrow , here an arrow , here an arrow , here an arrow .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Because uh , from h hundred uh remote controls , ninety nine have it .
Project Manager: But if we don't have a L_C_D_ we don't have a menu .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh , then we have it on the T_V_ , the menu .
Marketing: Uh-uh .
Project Manager: Yeah , but again maybe th How do we know the T_V_ can handle it ?
Industrial Designer: User Interface: Project Manager: You don't know . So , there's no menu .
Industrial Designer: I don't know . It's like some sort of uh teletext option , but we don't have teletext . Project Manager: No . So you can't use it .
Industrial Designer: And if we put an L_C_D_ thing on it , then the costs will uh be much higher .
Project Manager: Okay , we make two concepts . One with L_C_D_ . One without L_C_D_ .
Industrial Designer: 'Kay . But you all like this kind of thing . Uh Project Manager: Good concept . But Industrial Designer: With the scroll button .
Project Manager: That's one .
Industrial Designer: And and this one has to be soft .
Marketing: Uh-uh .
Industrial Designer: And this has to be harder , because when it falls , it mu mu must not burst . Or some kind of rubber around it .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: It's one . Two . Number two .
User Interface: And you can and you can uh make the the power button as a trigger .
Project Manager: User Interface: Like uh  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface:  Industrial Designer: Ah that's nice .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Here . Trigger . Marketing: Project Manager: No . But when you handle it , you put it on and off .
User Interface: Just to uh  Project Manager: It's not good to use .
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: Yeah , but I'll zap .
User Interface: Oh , like a  Marketing: Project Manager: Fuck . Out . User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: No , it's not good .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Now , second concept . One with L_C_D_ , one without L_C_D_ . Then uh Paint it . User Interface: Industrial Designer: Paint it ?
Marketing: User Interface: Industrial Designer: With the scroll thing on , like this ?
Project Manager: One with two scroll buttons and one with without . Yeah . Uh , one with a with a menu , and one without a menu .
Industrial Designer: So ?
Project Manager: And the one with with a menu has an L_C_D_ .
Industrial Designer: Draw it . Project Manager: Unbelievable .
Marketing: Project Manager: Do I have to do everything . Blank . You have  Not so difficult .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: But if you put push the the menu button Project Manager: Uh , that's the menu . There for the L_C_D_ screen .
User Interface: Yeah , wh what Yes , but you don't know which of the scroll buttons you have to choose .
Project Manager: You have to For the menu .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . One that way . And one that way . So Then it depends on the cost . S On and off .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: But is it easy to use ? When you have it on your left side , and Project Manager: When it's not too big . Just like a a phone .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: M uh yeah , maybe it's better if the uh scroll-wheels are um
Industrial Designer: Separate , more separate , h yeah .
Marketing: more separate , yeah .
Project Manager: Yes , okay .
Marketing: Like , you have the menu button in between uh Industrial Designer: Yeah . On the left a scroll button , and on the right a scroll button . But would it be easy to use then ? If it's like  you have a big uh Project Manager: Industrial Designer: Project Manager: Very good . Is it better ? When you uh the menu , you have to go there there there there .
Industrial Designer: I also think this concept is not what the young people were looking for .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: They were like round curves , uh different uh Project Manager: Yeah , okay . That's that's the outside . But now the Industrial Designer: Okay , okay , okay .
Project Manager: First the buttons .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Think we have we have now two buttons missing . The uh um The mute button .
Project Manager: Sorry ?
Marketing: We have two buttons missing . The mute button . And um , the to to uh have to uh numbers
Project Manager: Mute . And the other .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Yeah . Not so difficult .
Marketing: But , uh Industrial Designer: Personally , I think two scroll buttons uh aren't easy to handle .
Project Manager: But how do you wanna solve it ?
Industrial Designer: With the switch button .
Project Manager: Yeah but on the menu that's not uh easy .
Industrial Designer: No
Project Manager: Then you go down , you switch , you go into the right , you switch , you go down .
Industrial Designer: like uh Oh , you mean like that .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh , then you can also have like uh th um Project Manager: A joystick .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , and joystick , I think .
Project Manager: Yeah . But is it uh Does that break , a joystick ? Or a small one just like in a laptop .
Industrial Designer: Yeah like in a laptop , s uh s some sort of thing . A little bit bigger , with easier thi
Project Manager: Mean , it's better . But how expensive it is ? Industrial Designer: I don't know .
Project Manager: Oh . Why do I pay you for ? Marketing: Industrial Designer: Project Manager: Um , well um  Better ideas . Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Or no scroll uh things . Just a shape . And  No , no . It won't work .
Project Manager: For the young peoples I think scroll button's good .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Uh-huh .
Project Manager: So Think we have to keep them .
Industrial Designer: Or a remote control more like joystick .
Project Manager: Yeah , but is it That's not expensive than uh Joystick is better . A small one .
Industrial Designer: A small one like this , like a Nintendo uh k
Project Manager: No just like in a
Industrial Designer: Playstation thing .
Project Manager: a laptop . Small , round .
Marketing: Project Manager: Then it's not so big .
Industrial Designer: No , no , no . I mean the the shape of the remote control .
Project Manager: Oh the sh Yeah , but then you can Industrial Designer: Just like a Playstation thing . Yeah .
Project Manager: So Maybe , if it's possible , it's not too expensive , I think a joystick is better .
Marketing: Project Manager: A small one . So , please look at it .
Industrial Designer: No , that's okay , I got Marketing: And on the L_C_D_ , how much it costs ? Uh , it costs extra ?
Industrial Designer: Uh  they're not uh in details .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: It's more expensive or less expensive , huh ? Project Manager: Yeah we I think you get it . So , after this meeting you have half an hour to uh fix it .
User Interface: Industrial Designer:  Then I have to come with it .
Marketing: Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: I got my personal costs . I I don't I don't know the costs .
Project Manager: Your problem . Not mine .
Industrial Designer: Marketing: Industrial Designer: Then I'll uh make something up .
Project Manager: Okay . So , do we have other concepts ? Then for the components , we use a normal battery . Then it's Ch cheapest way , I think .
User Interface: Mm , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , or the or the kinetic uh with normal battery .
Project Manager: No , no kinetic . Kinetic is uh ch makes it more expensive .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think it's uh , yeah , more expensive . Yeah .
Project Manager: So we use a normal battery .
User Interface: Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: Chip . Depends on the L_C_D_ .
Industrial Designer: Depends on the scroll .
Project Manager: Scroll .
Industrial Designer: If we use a scroll , then we have the uh regular chip . If we don't use a scroll , then we can use the simple chip .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And that's Project Manager: And uh , we If you use the L_C_D_ , we have to
Industrial Designer: Uh the most expensive .
Project Manager: Yes , okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: So , depends on the L_C_D_ and the scroll .
Industrial Designer: If we Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: If we No okay scroll-wheel . So , I have this . So , it will be uh the advanced chip , or the uh regu uh or the regular chip .
Project Manager: Okay . So , uh the shapes of the design depends on the L_C_D_ and But , it has to be small . I think .
Industrial Designer: Or shall we just put it on the pistol thing ? And then just put also on L_C_D_ on it ?
Project Manager: If you have pistol , it L_C_D_'s not easy . Y y Yeah but Industrial Designer: Just use your thumb .
Project Manager: If you use a phone .
Industrial Designer: If you Yeah . I use my thumb .
Project Manager: k Yeah , but but then you have it . Like , th if you have pistol , you have it so . And the screen is Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Well , then you have to keep it this way to look at the screen .
Industrial Designer: If you have a joystick on No , if you have like uh an uh uh a ni a uh Playstation uh game controller .
Marketing: Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And you move up , f forward , down , left . Then you have uh just , yeah , a little bit curved . It's not just uh straight .
Project Manager: No . No , no .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: That's how we use it . That's why they make joysticks like that , I think .
Marketing: Uh Project Manager: Yeah , but then you look forward .
Marketing: Uh , yeah , but Project Manager: And then you can y
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah ?
Project Manager: N well , if you have to look at it .
Marketing: If you Industrial Designer: 'Kay . Here's our designer .
Marketing: If we have uh then something standing here , with the L_C_D_ .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Then it goes like this .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , why not .
Project Manager: If th n well  Industrial Designer: It's for the younger people .
Project Manager: Yes , of course .
Industrial Designer: It's something new . Project Manager: That's good good .
User Interface: It's uh Project Manager: But the um , it may not break .
Industrial Designer: Now we put uh rubber around it .
Project Manager: Okay . If that's possible .
Marketing: Um , Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Hard plastic , uh the shape , and around it hard uh around it rubber . And the uh the hand shape is also rubber .
Marketing: Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Or you can uh turn it inside .
Marketing: I can't see the . But , uh the easy of  User Interface: But that's Marketing: uh , th the ease of use wasn't uh the most important uh aspect of it .
Industrial Designer: Huh .
User Interface: No , that's true .
Marketing: Uh , for us it's about to sell it . Uh Project Manager: Yeah of course .
Industrial Designer: This is something new .
Marketing: Project Manager: Okay . Then this is the design . And the buttons are on the next page . So , depends on the cost . So ,
Industrial Designer: Costs are okay .