B: 'Kay ,
C: Okay .
B: but teletext is so uh is just scrapped .
C: Do do you want a list of functions ? Do you want an explicit list ? Uh which uh incorporates all function available on the device ?
A: Um well ,
A: I do not want a full
A: uh it's not necessary to to have a full list ,
A: but I want um the kind of functions , for example uh th the most important are volume and uh programme selecting .
C: Okay . Okay .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: The ten digits .
A: Well ,
A: for example , that that's what we should think about .
A: l
A: how is the remote going to look ? Not not in the user interface , but B: Oh ,
B: and just one function . The the the the programme to programme button , the switch to uh two channels , when you have uh something on channel four and something on channel six , just one button which which can uh change
C: Mm-hmm .
C: Yes .
A: Yeah .
A: A bit of a split mode .
C: Change .
A: Uh l like Yeah .
B: yeah .
C: Yes , yes .
A: Dual channel watch .
C: Yes .
B: Yeah .
A: Okay , well um
A: m maybe I should write that down . C: Well  B: C: you're the secretary . A: Uh Ruud , um what's your last name ?
D: Mielsen .
A: Mielsen ,
A: because I I was writing it down in the last uh A: Mielsen .
A: Right . Um
A: I put all the minutes I make into the shared folder .
A: So if you want to have a look at it , you know where to find it . Um C: Mm okay ,
B: Alright .
C: but make a s make a sub-folder for it ,
C: because it's starting to fill up already . A: Yeah ,
A: that's that's D: Yeah .
A: if you want to do it , Sebastian . C: Sure . B: Our B_S_C_ uh W_ uh C: . B:   A: Okay , um  Okay , so so um  uh A: Volume .
A: Programme .
A: Uh dual channel . Uh C: Yes , that's important .
A: And and do we want um the ten digits ?
B: The ten digits ?
B: Yeah , I believe so .
C: Well ,
C: are are you sure ?
D: Well ,
D: if you want to go to channel ninety and you have th that button .
C: I'm not so sure .
B: Yeah .
C: Well ,
C: that's complicated ,
A: Yeah .
C: but is that so relevant ?
C: Because I don't think C: but you should uh shou you should know that . If it were so .
B: I wouldn't buy it personally . A remote control without the ten digits .
C: Okay ,
C: I can imagine when
B: Uh and I think the most A: I agree actually . C: I can imagine when you're when you have a satellite decoder and and you have , well , about six hundred channels , I can imagine you want this .
B: Just elder elder people would would buy it ,
D: Well B: but C: But if you're uh a regular T_V_ user , and you just want uh to watch the the Dutch television networks , well , you can uh   you can use uh about ten buttons . That's enough .
A: But we do have thirteen different Dutch channels .
D: But B: Yep .
D: Yeah ,
B: The older people only use five of them .
D: and if if we C: Well ,
C: but how how often do you watch all these channels ?
D: And if we are targeting at the younger audience , they will probably watch more channels than the older people .
A: Often .
D: So C: No , you're probably right .
B: Yeah .
C: Okay .
C: But I think these uh ten uh buttons look a bit dull .
C: Don't you think ?
A: Well ,
A: it depends on the on the on the looks ,
C: The design .
A: on the on the B: On the design .
C: Okay .
C: Well ,
C: y
C: then there should be should done be done something specific with it .
D: Well A: You c you can d make them very fancy
D: And A: by um A: I mean Nokia , they have ten digits on their phones
C: Mm-hmm .
A: and it still looks very fancy .
B: Yeah .
A: So I'm I'm I do not agree C: Okay ,
C: so you can experiment by uh with with shape or with size or with colour , that kind of thing .
A: Exactly , exactly .
C: Okay .
D: And um there are some numbers about uh speech recognition here that uh younger people would like it .
D: Uh it might be expensive and uh hard to implement ,
D: but it would be a solution uh for A: Okay ,
A: speech .
C: Well ,
C: maybe it can be combined with the find the remote control .
B: Yeah .
C: So um
C: when you add uh speech recognition to your remote control , uh it's very easy to change uh the channel . That's one thing .
A: Yeah .
C: And it's very easy uh to find your remote control .
A: To find A: yeah .
C: So maybe that's a possibility ,
C: but I'm afraid it will be a bit costly .
D: Yeah .
C: But maybe when we uh A: Uh If if we would um drop the ten digits
C: Mm-hmm .
A: but keep the programme and the volume ,
A: because maybe people do not always want to use their voice , um C: Okay .
C: Okay , okay .
D: Especially elder people uh don't like voice recognition .
D: So then we should implement such a but
A: Yeah .
A: But we do focus on younger people .
A: We d it
C: Okay .
D: Yes .
A: it's a board uh decision .
C: Well .
C: I I think it should uh should work , it sh we should manage that .
B: So
B: we have to i to make um a decision between the ten digits or the voice recognition .
A: Okay .
C: Yes .
C: Well ,
C: the voice recognition has the main adva has another advantage .
C: It's mas it makes it very easy for us to implement the find uh find the remote control button uh remote control function .
B: Mm-hmm .
C: So that's that's a big advantage , I think .
A: Okay .
A: Okay , g good .
B: A: Okay .
C: There's only one disadvantage uh by implementing this .
C: Um the power saving power saving will be a bit more difficult .
C: So we can expect that there will be a less longer life to the batteries .
A: Mm .
C: But maybe can we we can think something smart about it .
A: Yep .
C: There are some uh hybrid hybrid devices which incorporate a solar panel and rechargeable batteries .
A: Okay .
C: So when you just leave the device in a in a light room , it charges itself .
A: But But but can we manage it bu uh for the costs ?
C: You have to do nothing for it .
D: M B: Twelve dollar fifty . C: Maybe , maybe not .
A: Because it seems like a very  D: And uh if we if we could inc uh include a c a cradle in which it could recharge , then there wouldn't be uh a big problem .
C: I'll have to find that out .
C: Yes .
C: So C: No ,
C: that's very cheap .
D: 'Cause when A: Is a cradle very cheap ?
C: It's C: Oh ,
C: it's very cheap .
C: That's no problem .
C: It's just a a case with two uh metal contacts .
A: I know ,
C: It's A: b uh but there should be an adapter as well .
C: Yes ,
C: but they're they're mass production .
D: Yeah .
C: They're very cheap .
C: So it will cost us p practically nothing .
A: Okay .
A: Okay .
A: We we have uh about ten minutes left this meeting . Um
A: I would like to hear um maybe
A: maybe you all have th uh things not um spoken about ,
A: yeah ,
A: but that are important .
A: Uh Ruud , you you came up with the voice recognition uh data .
A: Uh are there other things about the market we should know ?
D: Um I think we dealt with the most important information .
D: Just that the younger part of uh the market isn't the forty percent we uh want to sell to .
D: So we we should uh for least a bit uh look at the uh older people .
C: D: But with uh buttons like that , which are easy to use , we uh might attract them too .
A: Okay .
D: So I don't think that's a big problem
A: Okay .
C: Yeah .
A: Okay , so
A: although we are focussing on younger people uh to make it uh profitable uh Profitable . We we yeah , we still need to take in account the the bit older people .
D: Yes . Yeah , profitable .
C: Profitable .
D: Yes .
A: Okay .
A: O okay . Um
A: Roo .
B: I have nothing uh nothing to add , I think .
A:  Nothing to add .
A: Sebastian ?
C: Um I just want to make a summary of all all things uh spoken and uh the different possibilities . Um
A: Yeah ? Great .
C: so uh basically
C: we've decided to implement a seemingly uh easy design .
C: So
C: on the outside it looks easy ,
C: but uh we can make it easy on the inside or elaborate on the inside .
C: So that's one the C: those are the choices we have to make .
C: But I think there's a big advantage in making it more elaborate by uh implementing uh speech techniques , uh voice recognition , that these kinds of things .
A: Mm-hmm .
A: Yeah .
C: Um it makes it also more uh attractable , I think , to our uh audience .
C: Um there are some advantages and some disadvantages ,
C: and the main advantage is that we can implement uh fancy techniques ,
C: which uh I think our customers will like .
C: The disadvantage is that there are some concerns about uh the the costs and um the things like uh battery lifetime , energy saving .
A: Yep .
C: Uh another advantage is that the circuit board will become much more easier if we do not do not implement these buttons .
C: If we just add uh uh a chip which does the voice recognition , uh our circuit board will become even more cheap .
C: So that's another A: Yeah ,
A: and that was the main issue ,
A: right ?
A: The the board C: well ,
C: it wa it w
C: it was an issue ,
C: but we also thought that C: we already thought we should do it as cheaply as possible .
A: Yeah .
C: And this even uh makes it more cheapy .
B: But the cheaper the ch uh the the chip or th what was it ?
C: Mm-hmm .
A: The board .
B: The circuit board .
C: The circuit board .
B: The fewer buttons you can use on it .
C: The fewer buttons you have , the ch ch the cheaper the circuit board , yes .
A: No ,
A: it's th
A: yeah .
B: Yeah , okay .
A: It's the other way around ,
A: yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: And it's very cheap uh to incorporate uh uh an integrated circuit , a chip .
C: So that's that's another advantage .
A: It shouldn't be a big issue .
B: Well
B: it B: then we should just uh take a look at the costs and uh especially for the voice recognition .
C: So C: Yes ,
C: because I don't know C: Yes .
C: I d
C: I really don't know .
C: So B: No .
C: It can be costly .
A: Okay .
C: Maybe not .
A: I'm not sure how how we'll f uh determine the costs ,
A: I will have a look at it .
A: Maybe you will get some information on that .
C: Yes .
A: Um I'm not sure how how that C: Yes ,
C: I al I
C: I hope my personal coach will uh have a lo uh look at it . A: Yep .
B: A: Okay , great .
A: Um well ,
A: I think we're qui quite done .
B: We're done , I think .
A: Um for now we will have the lunch break .
C: How nice .
A: Um I'm don't know how long the break will be ,
A: but we'll find out .
B: Me neither .
A: Um then we will have thirty minutes of time to perform our individual work ,
A: uh and I'm sure your personal coaches will uh assist you with it .
A: Um I will put the minutes I just made in the project documents folder .
A: If you want to look at it um well , just do .
A: Um the Interface Designer , um I would like to the next meeting I would like to receive the uh components concept .
B: Interface industrial .
A: Uh I'm sorry ,
A: yeah ,
B: Yeah . A: I'm sorry .
A: User Interface Designer , uh Roo , I would like to see the user interface c uh concept .
C: Well ,
C: we understand . A: And um
B: Uh the only problem is it that it depends on the divisions the decis uh decisions Sebastian makes . About the voice recognition .
C: Well  A: Well ,
A: i it should be easy ,
B: Well A: that's w w what we concluded .
A: It should be an easy interface with not so much buttons . S just a a p a p a volume and a programme one . And um um yeah , some some fancy lights .
C: Mm yes .
B: Yeah .
A: I think that's what we decided .
C: So we drop the voice recognition ?
A: No no no , we didn't C: Or C: Oh .
A: but it shouldn't be integrated A: yeah ,
A: it's of course it's user interface ,
A: but um i I was talking about really the design of the C: Okay .
C: Well um
C: do we really have to decide now
C: or can we decide next meeting ?
A: No .
A: We can decide the next meeting . Yep .
C: Okay .
C: Because I'll have some updated info on that uh A: Yeah .
A: I guess all of you have i updated info .
A: I'm sure the marketing expert will receive uh t uh you will do some trend watching .
B: Yep .
A: And I'm sure the market will um uh  uh will change , adapt
D: Hmm .
B: Adapt .
C: Adapt .
D: Left .
D: Hmm .
A: and um so
A: we will see that .
A: Um yeah ,
A: that's it for now .
B: That's it .
B: 'Kay .
A: Any other questions
A: or can we have the lunch ?
C: We can have the lunch .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah , okay .
B: I'll take the lunch .
A: Good .