A: Hey , you 're not supposed to be drinking in here dude .
D: OK .
A: Do we have to read them that slowly ?
A: OK .
A: Sounded like a robot .
A: Um , this is t
C: OK .
A: When you read the numbers it kind of reminded me of beat poetry .
D: I tried to go for the EE Cummings sort of feeling ,
D: but A: Three three six zero zero .
A: Four two zero zero
A: one seven .
A: That 's what I think of when I think of beat poetry .
C: Beat poetry .
A: You ever seen " So I married an axe murderer " ?
C: Uh parts of it .
D: Mm - hmm .
A: There 's a part wh there 's parts when he 's doing beat poetry .
C: Oh yeah ?
A: And he talks like that .
A: That 's why I thi
A: That uh probably is why I think of it that way .
D: Hmm .
D: No , I didn't see that movie .
D: Who did who made that ?
A: Mike Meyers is the guy .
D: Oh .
D: OK .
A: It - it 's his uh it 's his cute romantic comedy .
A: That 's that 's A: That 's his cute romantic comedy , yeah .
A: The other thing that 's real funny , I 'll spoil it for you .
A: is when he 's he works in a coffee shop ,
A: in San Francisco ,
A: and uh he 's sitting there on this couch and they bring him this massive cup of espresso ,
A: and he 's like " excuse me I ordered the large espresso ? "
D: Uh . We 're having , a
D: tiramisu tasting contest this weekend .
A: Wait A: do are y
A: So you 're trying to decide who 's the best taster of tiramisu ?
D: No ?
D: Um . There was a a a fierce argument that broke out over whose tiramisu might be the best
D: and so we decided to have a contest where those people who claim to make good tiramisu make them ,
A: Ah .
D: and then we got a panel of impartial judges that will taste do a blind taste and then vote .
A: Hmm .
D: Should be fun .
A: Seems like A: Seems like you could put a s magic special ingredient in , so that everyone know which one was yours .
A: Then , if you were to bribe them , you could uh D: Mm - hmm .
D: Well , I was thinking if um D: y you guys have plans for Sunday ?
D: We 're we 're not D: it 's probably going to be this Sunday , but um we 're sort of working with the weather here
D: because we also want to combine it with some barbecue activity where we just fire it up and what whoever brings whatever you know , can throw it on there .
D: So only the tiramisu is free , nothing else .
A: Well , I 'm going back to visit my parents this weekend ,
A: so , I 'll be out of town .
D: So you 're going to the west Bay then ?
D: No ,
D: south Bay ?
A: No , the South Bay ,
A: yeah .
D: South Bay .
C: Well , I should be free ,
C: so .
D: OK , I 'll let you know .
C: OK .
A: We are .
A: Is Nancy s uh gonna show up ?
A: Mmm .
A: Wonder if these things ever emit a very , like , piercing screech right in your ear ?
D: They are gonna get more comfortable headsets .
D: They already ordered them .
D: OK .
C: Uh D: Let 's get started .
D: The uh D: Should I go first , with the uh , um , data .
D: Can I have the remote control .
D: Thank you .
D: OK .
D: So . On Friday we had our wizard test data test and um these are some of the results .
D: This was the introduction .
D: I actually uh , even though Liz was uh kind enough to offer to be the first subject , I sort of felt that she knew too much ,
D: so I asked uh Litonya . just on the spur of the moment , and she was uh kind enough to uh serve as the first subject .
B: Mm - hmm .
D: So , this is what she saw as part of as uh for instr introduction ,
D: this is what she had to read aloud .
D: Uh , that was really difficult for her
D: and uh C: Because of l all the names , you mean ?
D: The names and um
D: this was the uh first three tasks she had to to master after she called the system ,
D: and um then of course the system broke down ,
D: and those were the l uh uh
D: I should say the system was supposed to break down and then um these were the remaining three tasks that she was going to solve , with a human D: Um .
D: There are here are uh the results .
D: Mmm .
D: And I will not D: We will skip the reading now .
D: D Um .
D: And um .
D: The reading was five minutes , exactly .
D: And now comes the D: This is the phone - in phase of C: Wait , can I I have a question .
C: So . So there 's no system ,
C: right ?
C: Like , there was a wizard for both uh both parts ,
C: is this right ?
D: Yeah .
D: It was bo it both times the same person .
C: OK .
D: One time , pretending to be a system ,
D: one time , to pretending to be a human , which is actually not pretending .
C: OK .
C: And she didn't D: I should C: I mean .
C: Well . Isn't this kind of obvious when it says " OK now you 're talking to a human " and then the human has the same voice ?
D: No no no .
D: We u Wait .
D: OK , good question , but uh
D: you you just wait and see .
D: It 's You 're gonna l learn .
C: OK .
D: And um the wizard sometimes will not be audible ,
D: Because she was actually they there was some uh lapse in the um wireless ,
D: we have to move her closer .
A: Is she mispronouncing " Anlage " ?
A: Is it " Anlaga " or " Anlunga "
D: They 're mispronouncing everything ,
D: but it 's A: OK .
D: This is the system breaking down , actually .
D: " Did I call Europe ? "
D: So , this is it .
D: Well , if we we um
B: So , are are you trying to record this meeting ?
D: There was a strange reflex .
D: I have a headache .
D: I 'm really sort of out of it .
D: OK , the uh lessons learned .
D: The reading needs to be shorter .
D: Five minutes is just too long .
D: Um , that was already anticipated by some people suggested that if we just have bullets here , they 're gonna not they 're subjects are probably not gonna going to follow the order .
D: And uh she did not .
D: She C: Really ?
D: No .
D: She she jumped around quite a bit .
C: Oh , it 's surprising .
B: S so if you just number them " one " , " two " , " three " it 's
D: Yeah , and make it sort of clear in the uh B: OK .
B: Right .
D: Um . We need to So that 's one thing .
D: And we need a better introduction for the wizard .
D: That is something that Fey actually thought of a in the last second that sh the system should introduce itself , when it 's called .
B: Mm - hmm .
B: True .
D: And um , um , another suggestion , by Liz , was that we uh , through subjects , switch the tasks .
D: So when when they have task - one with the computer , the next person should have task - one with a human , and so forth .
B: Mm - hmm .
D: So we get nice um data for that .
D: Um , we have to refine the tasks more and more , which of course we haven't done at all , so far , in order to avoid this rephrasing ,
D: so where , even though w we don't tell the person " ask blah - blah - blah - blah - blah "
D: they still try , or at least Litonya tried to um repeat as much of that text as possible .
C: Say exactly what 's on there ?
C: Yeah .
D: And uh my suggestion is of course we we keep the wizard , because I think she did a wonderful job ,
B: Great .
D: in the sense that she responded quite nicely to things that were not asked for ,
D: " How much is a t a bus ticket and a transfer "
D: so this is gonna happen all the time , we d you can never be sure .
B: Mm - hmm .
D: Um . Johno pointed out that uh we have maybe a grammatical gender problem there with wizard .
D: So um .
A: Yes .
A: I wasn't wasn't sure whether wizard was the correct term for uh " not a man " .
D: But uh C: There 's no female equivalent of A: Are you sure ?
C: No , I don't know .
C: Not that I know of .
B: Right .
D: Well , there is witch and warlock ,
D: and uh C: Yeah , that 's what I was thinking , but A: Yeah , that 's so @ @ .
B: Right .
B: Right .
D: OK .
B: Uh .
D: And um D: So , some some work needs to be done , but I think we can uh D: And this , and in case no you hadn't seen it , this is what Litonya looked at during the uh um while taking the while partaking in the data collection .
C: Ah .
B: OK ,
B: great .
B: So first of all , I agree that um we should hire Fey , and start paying her .
B: Probably pay for the time she 's put in as well .
B: Um , do you know exactly how to do that ,
B: or is uh Lila B: I mean , you know what exactly do we do to to put her on the payroll in some way ?
D: I 'm completely clueless , but I 'm willing to learn .
B: OK .
B: Well , you 'll have to .
B: Right .
B: So anyway ,
D: N
B: um
B: So why don't you uh ask Lila
B: and see what she says about you know exactly what we do for someone in
D: Student - type worker ,
B: th
D: or ?
B: Well , yeah she 's un she 's not a a student ,
B: she just graduated
B: but anyway .
D: Hmm .
B: So i if B: Yeah , I agree ,
B: she sounded fine ,
B: she a actually was uh , more uh , present and stuff than than she was in conversation ,
B: so she did a better job than I would have guessed from just talking to her .
D: Yeah .
B: So I think that 's great .
D: This is sort of what I gave her , so this is for example h how to get to the student prison ,
B: Yeah .
D: and I didn't even spell it out here
D: and in some cases I I spelled it out a little bit um more thoroughly ,
B: Right .
D: this is the information on on the low sunken castle , and the amphitheater that never came up ,
D: and um , so i if we give her even more um , instruments to work with I think the results are gonna be even better .