B: Yep .
C: one to go up left right down and uh enter
B: Yeah .
C: and you you you just select the functionality you want to access or things like that .
B: Mm . Mm . Yeah .
C: You don't have to to switch to a channel to another uh B: Yeah .
A: Mm .
D: Or it could be like this , as the people say , if they have a L_C_D_ on the remote not on the television .
D: Because when you have the L_C_D_ onto the television screen you miss the picture in the background ,
D: we are most focused on the commands .
D: So if you have then L_C_D_ in the remote , you just have a menu ,
C: Yeah but D: and increasing and lower these signs here to change the programs
D: and this menu when you press the menu , in the L_C_D_ displays as you go on pressing the menu it faster displays volume , then the program , then the brightness , contrast and all the stuff .
B: Mm .
C:  Yeah but if you look at the L_C_D_ you you don't look at the T_V_ screen
D: And accordingly you can just increase or decrease .
B: Mm .
A: It's C: so i i it's not really worth to get to have the image if you don't look at , so .
B: Mm .
B: I if B: Mm . Mm .
B: Yeah .
A: And I think it's increases the cost of the the remote control if you use L_C_D_ . I C: Yeah .
D: Yeah
D: that has to be checked out .
B: I think that there's no contradiction here ,
B: because if there are few buttons , you don't have to look at your your controller any more
B: because you know where the buttons are ,
C: Yeah .
B: so if you wanna control the screen d sh sharpness you just say sharpness
B: and then you t turn you just press lef increase or decrease button
C: B: and the same for the volume and the channel , D: Yeah .
B: if you had the speech recognition there you just shout your channel ,
B: just tell your channel
B: and then you don't even have to look at the butto at the controller
B: so finally that wil eliminates the the need for L_C_D_ ,
D: Okay .
B: with the help of speech recogniser you can D: I mean , better if we could just check all the cost with L_C_D_
B: Yeah .
D: and also with the speech recognition .
B: Mm .
C: Yeah .
D: And then we could find which would would be a more suitable in this case .
B: Mm . Mm . Yeah .
B: A and D: And the third problem was to find the remote control .
D: Always , so fifty percent of the people say they lose the remotes .
C: Well so we we can think about a well a a vocal command like uh find
B: Mm .
C: and when the remote control uh hears fine well yeah just uh to make him beep or t
B: Where ,
A: You will listen to a peep , special peep .
B: yeah .
D: Yeah that's right ,
D: that's exactly what I mean by voice commander .
D: Or it could be also something like this ,
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
D: uh it's always boring to change the batteries of the remotes control ,
B: Mm .
C: Yeah .
D: so we have some one charger there
D: and whenever we don't use the remote control we put it in the charger .
B: Put it back at the charge .
C: Put B: Yeah .
D: And when we're using that t remote and if we misplace somewhere , in the charger we have a small button , and just by pressing the button in the charger the uh remote control beeps , wherever it is .
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
A: Okay .
C: And that's a good idea ,
C: that's simple , like in phones .
A: Yeah .
B: Mm .
D: I mean it doe it also doesn't require a voice command ,
D: because there are problems with a voice command .
C: Yeah .
A: But you don't you don't have to move the the charger .
B: Hmm . Mm . Th yeah . Mm yeah . Yeah . Mm .
D: Yeah , yeah , yeah .
D: I mean charger would be fixed
A: You have to keep it .
D: because it's always with electricity plugged .
C: Yeah .
C: Yeah if there if there uh there is nuff not enough battery . Also and uh uh the remote is lost .
A: Okay .
B: Mm . There's mm . Mm .
D: B: Yeah .
D: Yeah that's right .
B: That we can B: what we can do is we can program a function whereby when you press the switch off T_V_ button , the off button , the remote there be s uh instruction on the screen , please charge charge me .
C: Yeah .
B: You never get it lost
B: because uh every time you're off the computer  the T_V_ you are asked the the command the T_V_ com remote controller would tell you to put it back to where to the charger .
D: It's an good reminder ,
D: yeah that's right .
B: Yeah . So you will never get lost  yeah .
C: Okay .
A: Maybe for some people  lazy people .
B: Yeah . Yeah
B: because everything is programmed inside .
A: Yeah yeah .
B: So it's it's uh it's all about strategy , y
D: And of course the final point is a fancy look .
B: Mm .
D: As we have seen earlier the remotes which were displayed by Norman they weren't fancy ,
B: Mm .
C: They were ugly .
B: Yeah , yeah .
D: I mean mm very big or something with lot of buttons .
C: They A: Mm .
D: I think we should have something it C: Well the last one with the um yeah with the two parts was uh original , so B: With uh two two two parts controller .
D: I mean uh I mean uh I mean uh you see if it's like that even a kid who wants to have a control he could just plug it and use it , you can't avoid him .
C: Yeah .
D: But you can have an button for child lock .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
B: Mm .
D: So just by pressing the button with some code , you t you put a lock onto the remote , so that he can't use even  B: Mm .
B: Mm . Mm .
C: Well we can think about uh having uh on the on the on the user interface when you switch on the T_V_ you can uh well write a code or choose a category , if it is kids , uh things like that .
B: Mm .
D: Mm uh B: Mm .
A: Or B: Mm .
B: Yeah . Mm .
D: That's right .
A: Or maybe you have to to show some specific programmes for kids
A: and then just just yeah just push uh kids button so it's automatically
B: Mm .
B: these are probl
B: yeah .
B: Mm . Mm .
B: Mm .
A: .
A: So if he .
D: I think these other four points they're the market demands
D: and so it's for the user interface design and industrial design to just think C: So for mm B: Mm .
A: Yeah .
C: yeah .
C: So for my part I will check the prices the um the prices difference uh of what to use , where to use , and s uh and so on .
D: Yeah I think it should be clearer for us in the next meeting that th uh these could be included .
C: Yeah .
B: Mm .
B: I think we need to define also a s the set of vocabularies for the speech recogniser
C: Yeah .
B: because uh if you want uh say we can sort by channels or sort by T_V_ programs , you have to decide a category of vocabularies for them .
B: If numbers , they're easy ,
A: Mm-hmm .
B: but if name the channel by by name C: Well I think we can we can have just numbers for channels
C: and you can say to your remote control like uh sports
C: and then on the T_V_ you have a list with with uh uh well with sports program playing now
B: Mm .
C: and and uh D: No ,
D: we have a problem there .
D: You see uh if you have a voice commands and you are s you are watching a score on uh basketball score or something , and if the score comes twenty four thirty five , you've just say twenty five
D: and suddenly the screen the channel goes to twenty five .
A: Yeah it's yeah .
D: So I think there should be a prefix to some numbers C: That's right , yeah , yeah .
B: Mm .
C: Well but well e every possible word uh has a probability to come about of the T_V_ so . B: Yeah .
D: I mean the the you just check all the probability that saying T_V_ twenty five and just ordinary twenty five .
B: Mm .
C: Yeah yeah .
D: Ordinary twenty five you almost there's a probability of being said around sixty seventy percent
C: Yeah but well B: Mm .
C: okay .
D: and T_V_ twenty five I dunno it will be round about one or two percent .
B: Mm .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: Mm .
D: So it's better to have some prefix before the number .
B: But I I I think that the user would like wou would like to associate the channel or call the channel rather than than the numbers .
D: Yeah something , some code .
B: You say numbe channel number five of the T_V_ correspond to something else in the channel .
C: Yeah yeah .
B: So some people may want to say , I want to see this channel .
C: Mm mm .
C: Well I D: That will be too big .
D: And it will be difficult for the vocabulary also .
A: Or just B: Yeah .
B: Check with the v R_ and D_ department the capability of recogniser .
A: It's difficult to to just say the the name of the channel .
B: Uh ?
A: It will be difficult to say just the name of the channel .
A: Because you have to s t uh a ch
B: Well , it's convenient for the user .
A: yeah
A: but you have to to have all the name of the channel in your vocabulary .
D: Als might be you just forgot the channel name , you kno only know the number .
A: Or maybe C: Yeah .
D: Then B: The uh uh mm .
A: Or maybe the user can create his own vocabulary ,
B: Mm .
A: just pronouncing the the name of channels and include in the vocabulary .
B: I I think that I have mm mm B: I think there's another way you can do is that uh you can uh if when the user ch press a button to choose the channel for example , then what you can do is that the you can make the T_V_ screen to split them into small little little squares of images where you you you have a snapshot of every channel ,