Grad B: OK .
Grad E: No .
Grad B: And I remember one thing that that came up in the talk last Wednesday . Um , was this , I I think he talked about the idea of like , um He was talking about these lexicalized uh , uh , tree adjoining grammars where you sort of for each word you , um Grad D: OK , you know how to do it ?
Grad B: For each lexical item , the lexical entry says what all the uh trees are that it can appear in . And of course , that 's not v That 's the opposite of constructional . That 's , you know , that 's that 's HPSG or whatever .
Professor C: Right .
Grad B: You know ?
Professor C: Right . Now , we 're we 're not committed for our research to do any of those things .
Grad B: Yeah . Mm - hmm .
Professor C: So uh we are committed for our funding .
Grad B: Right .
Professor C: OK ? to uh Grad B: Make our stuff fit to that .
Professor C: Yeah , to n no , to just get the dem get the demos they need .
Grad B: Uh - huh .
Professor C: OK ? So between us all we have t to get th the demos they need . If it turns out we can also give them lots more than that by , you know , tapping into other things we do , that 's great .
Grad D: You should probably move the microphone closer to your face .
Grad B: Mm - hmm .
Professor C: But i it turns out not to be in an any of the contracts
Grad D: There 's like a little The twisty thing , you can move it with .
Grad B: OK .
Professor C: and , s deliberately . So , the reason I 'd like you to understand uh what 's going on in this demo system is not because it 's important to the research . It 's just for closure . So that if we come up with a question of " could we fit this deeper stuff in there ? " or something . You know what the hell we we 're talking about fitting in .
Grad B: Right . OK .
Professor C: So it 's just , uh in the sam same actually with the rest of us we just need to really understand what 's there . Is there anything we can make use of ? Uh , is there anything we can give back , beyond th the sort of minimum requirements ? But none of that has a short time fuse .
Grad B: OK .
Professor C: So th the demo the demo requirements for this Fall are sort of taken care of as of later this week or something . And then So , it 's probably fifteen months or something until there 's another serious demo requirement .
Grad B: Oh OK .
Professor C: That doesn't mean we don't think about it for fifteen months ,
Grad B: Right .
Professor C: but it means we can not think about it for six months .
Grad B: Right , yeah .
Professor C: So . The plan for this summer uh , really is to step back from the applied project ,
Grad E: Right .
Professor C: keep the d keep the context open , but actually go after the basic issues .
Grad B: Hmm . Oh OK .
Professor C: And , so The idea is there 's this uh , other subgroup that 's worrying about formalizing the nota getting a notation . But sort of in parallel with that , uh , the hope is tha in particularly you will work on constructions in English Ge - and German for this domain ,
Grad B: Mm - hmm .
Professor C: but y not worry about parsing them or fitting them into SmartKom or any of the other anything lik any other constraints for the time being .
Grad B: Yeah . OK . Got it .
Professor C: It 's hard enough to get it semantically and syntactically right and then and get the constructions in their form and stuff .
Grad B: Yeah .
Professor C: And , I don I don't want you f feeling that you have to somehow meet all these other constraints .
Grad B: Right , OK .
Professor C: Um . And similarly with the parsing , uh we 're gonna worry about parsing uh , the general case you know , construction parser for general constructions . And , if we need a cut - down version for something , or whatever , we 'll worry about that later .
Grad B: OK .
Professor C: So I 'd like to , for the summer turn into science mode .
Grad B: OK .
Professor C: And I assume that 's also , uh , your plan as well .
Grad B: So I mean , the the point is that like the meetings um so far that I 've been at have been sort of been geared towards this demo ,
Professor C: Right . Yeah . Yeah .
Grad B: and then that 's going to go away pretty soon .
Professor C: But but we we 're swit
Grad B: OK .
Professor C: Right .
Grad B: And then we 'll sort of shift gears a Fairly substantially ,
Professor C: Yeah .
Grad E: It 's Professor C: Yeah .
Grad B: huh ?
Professor C: Yeah .
Grad E: It 's got . What I what I think is is a good idea that I can can show to anyone who 's interested , we can even make a sort of an internal demo , and I I show you what I do ,
Grad B: Mm - hmm .
Grad E: I speak into it and you hear it talk ,
Grad B: OK .
Grad E: and I can sort of walk f through the information . So , this is like in half hour or forty - five minutes . Just fun .
Grad B: OK .
Grad E: And so you when somebody on the streets com comes up to you and asks you what is SmartKom so you can , sort of , give a sensible answer .
Grad B: Right . OK .
Professor C: So , c sh we could set that up as actually an institute wide thing ? Just give a talk in the big room , and and so peo people know what 's going on ? when you 're ready ?
Grad E: Absolutely .
Professor C: Yeah I mean , that 's the kind of thing That 's the level at which you know we can just li invite everybody and say " this is a project that we 've been working on and here 's a demo version of it " and stuff like that .
Grad B: Yeah .
Grad E: OK . Well d we we do wanna have all the bugs out b where you have to sort of pipe in extra XML messages from left and right before you 're Grad B: Uh - huh .
Professor C: Indeed .
Grad E: Yeah . OK . Makes sense .
Professor C: But any so that e e It 's clear , then , I think . Actually , roughly starting uh let 's say , nex next meeting , cuz this meeting we have one other thing to tie up besides the trip report .
Grad B: Yeah . OK .
Professor C: But uh starting next meeting I think we want to flip into this mode where Uh . I mean there are a lot of issues , what 's the ontology look like ,
Grad B: Mm - hmm .
Professor C: you know what do the constructions look like , what 's the execution engine look like , mmm lots of things .
Grad B: Mm - hmm .
Professor C: But , more focused on uh an idealized version than just getting the demo out . Now before we do that , let 's get back in Oh ! But , it 's still , I think , useful for you to understand the demo version enough , so that you can can see what what it is that that uh it might eventually get retro - fitted into or something .
Grad B: Yeah . OK , right .
Professor C: And Johno 's already done that , uh , looked at the dem uh the looked at the SmartKom stuff .
Grad D: Wa uh To some de uh what what part of th the SmartKom stuff ?
Professor C: Well , the parser , and that stuff .
Grad D: Oh yeah yeah .
Professor C: OK . Anyway . So , the trip the report on these the last we we sort of interrupted you guys telling us about what happened last week .
Grad B: Yeah . It 's alright .
Grad E: Um . Well it was just amazing to to see uh how how instable the whole thing is ,