A: Yeah .
B: function f yeah , functionality and our fancy uh look , so .
D: Yeah , but the most uh easy to use is just with one button
B: But B: It is r it is rather easy to use , because you have the primary buttons always visible .
A: D: on t
D: D: Yeah , okay , but easy n not not the most easy to use , I think .
C: .
B: C: No , it's it I I'll go for two .
B: No .
C: My vote's on two . D: Two ?
B: Yeah , m mine too .
A: Okay , two . Yeah , two .
D: We also have to compare it to the uh to the remote controls on the market nowadays . So B: Yeah , but waits just a minutes .
B: Inspiration .
A: What's the time ?
A: We also have uh to do the evaluation , uh the production costs and uh stuff .
B: These are the m regular remotes .
D: Yeah yeah ,
D: I'm uh hurrying .
D: Okay , eleven .
A: D: The remote control is innovative .
A: Yeah .
B: Yes , true , one .
C: Yes .
D: A very A: You're agree , Tim ?
D: of course .
A: You haven't seen a more innovative uh thing in uh Paris ? D: The remote control has m remova removable from Multilux .
C: B: Yes , one .
B: Very multifunctional .
B: No .
A: D: The remote control , i it has speech recognition .
D: False .
C: Yes ,
A: False .
C: it B: This is used with speech recognition , this .
D: The remote control has built-in games ?
B: Yes .
A: B: But uh , maybe make it two , because the games are in a sub-menu and not uh it's not an entire game .
A: Yeah , but they are built in , so it's one .
C: Yeah , they are built in .
D: Yeah .
B: Yeah , okay .
C: Not down .
A: Okay .  D: And the last , paren parental advisory function . C: You really like the parental advisory . B: Yes .
A: Freak . D: Yes , I do .
B: Th did you make this or the C: Bu
D: Save as .
C: Yeah , he made it . B: Yeah ,  B: It changes it maybe .
D: Okay , I will uh
B: Oh yay .
D: do the the math .
B: Oh dear .
D: Now it's your turn .
A: Okay ,
A: thank you .
D: A: A: We'll see .
B: Hmm ?
A: Mm .
A: Okay , we have now to c uh to calculate the production cost .
A: If it's under uh twelve and half Euro , then it's uh ok uh okay .
A: But i is it if it is b
A: Huh ?
A: No , this isn't right .
A: Okay so , . Redesign .
B: If they're under twelve fifty .
A: Oh yeah , if they under Yeah .
A: No .
A: Oh yeah . Yeah , it's B: Yeah ? Cau 'cause so it's okay .
C: A: sorry .
A: Yeah , if the costs are under twelve and a half Euro , uh then we uh can uh ra uh move on to the project evaluation , as we have uh experienced it .
A: Otherwise , we have uh do uh have to do a little uh redesign uh thingy . So A: Uh , we have to fill in the numbers of the component uh components .
A: We have to uh fil uh , want to uh do it in and uh see uh if we stay under the twelve and a half Euro .
A: So , do we have uh a hand dynamo ?
C: No .
A: No .
A: That's zero .
C: Me , too .
B: Battery , yes . One .
C: Yes .
A: Battery , one ?
C: Yeah .
B: One , yeah .
A: Okay .
B: Kinetic , one .
A: Kinetic , one ?
C: Yeah . Yeah .
B: Yeah .
A: Okay , solar cells , zero .
B: C: Yeah .
A: Okay , uh simple chip on print ?
C: Uh , n no .
D: No .
A: No ?
D: Advanced chip .
C: No .
A: No , advanced chip .
B: No .
C: Yes .
A: Sample sensor sample speaker ?
B: No , the advanced chip is uh C: No .
D: Advanced chip is three .
A: Three ?
D: Three Euros , yep .
B: Yeah .
C: Uh , we have one . We have one A: Yeah uh , but it it's one one thing , it's three Euro .
D: Okay , one piece , yeah .
C: .
C: No , sev zero .
A: Uh , what's the sample sensor ?
D: No .
C: Well , that's um D: Speech recognition , I think .
B: Yeah ,
C: yeah , speech recognition
B: you give it a sample , uh one .
A: Okay .
C: and s
A: Zero .
A: Uh , uncurved flat .
B: No .
D: No .
C: A zero .
A: No .
A: But is it s it's not made from a single uncurved thingy and then uh  and then uh D: No .
B: You B: no .
C: No . No .
D: Thingy . A: no ? Okay .
A: So it's only uh once double-curved .
C: Yeah .
D: Yes ,
B: Yeah ,
B: 'cause um the layer around it fits around the bubbles on the o on the uh the back of the D: three .
D: Eight .
A: Okay .
A: We're now in a problem , 'cause uh we have uh reached eleven Euro yet .
C: B: Uh , we don't have anything else . So  D: Okay , go on . Just go on .
C: A: Okay ,
A: but uh we have C: Just go on .
C: Then we'll see uh we'll we'll see uh wha how much we are over budget .
A: Okay .
B: Could you step a little to the right ma
D: Two .
B: Yeah .
B: Oh , sorry .
D: Two .
A: Uh , rubber .
B: Or A: You .
C: Zero .
B: And zero .
A: Titanium , no ? B: Special uh is the special colour ?
A: Special colour ?
B: Mm .
C: I don't think so .
C: No , this is a standard colour .
D: No .
A: Yeah , but we want to make uh the wood colours , uh that uh B: Yeah .
D: S
C: Yes , this is a special colour . B: Yeah , if if you're honest , we'll uh type one , special colour .
D: D: Yeah , but but D but Daniel , tha that's that's another brand .
C: That's an add-on .
A: Yeah , one .
D: That's another article
D: to sell .
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah , but we we going to A: yeah yeah , that's true .
A: But yeah , it's it's it B: Uh , j maybe we'll finish uh the the list first and then look back , aye ?
D: That doesn't account for this . Producing this .
A: Okay ,
A: the push-button , no .
B: No .
B: Scroll wheel , no .
A: Scroll-wheel , no .
B:  No .
A: No .
A: Oh , no .
B:  A: Yes , one .
B: One , yeah .
A: Uh , button , no .
C: No .
B: No .
A: No , the the B: Mm , is it A: we don't have a s
C: These three .
B: No . No .
D: No .
C: Well , we're only four Euro over budget .
A: no . Okay .
A: Oh , okay .
B: So C: But A: So , um what's the thing we can change ?
B: No . No .
C: Well , other case , we can make it single-curved or uncurved .
D: Yeah .
A: Uh , can I uh I say something ?
B: Mm , single-curves .
D: Yeah , of course . A: No , can I say something uh as Project Manager ?
B: Yeah .
B: Just cut off the kine
A: The kinetic thing , can we just skip it ,
B: yeah .
A: because uh you have to shake it , but that's not really innovative .
C: Yeah . Okay , sure .
B: Or B: yeah . B: Yeah ,
B: we just put a good battery it it .
D: Yeah .
B: Mobile phones nowadays .
D: Daniel . Daniel ,
A: Yeah .
A: Yo .
D: what do you think about Here .
A: Sorry ,
A: yeah , yes . D: What do you think about uh putting a battery in it , but also selling like uh the covers , a docking station
A: Yeah .
D: just apart from the from the thing , so that you can uh put uh
A: Mm-hmm .
D: rechargeable batteries in it and just  A: Okay .
B: But you can use rechargeable batteries anyway , just you s you have to recharge them manual .
A: Yeah , and not really .
D: Yeah , yeah , okay .
A: But we A: if you forget about the kinetic ,
D: Just an idea .
B: Yeah ,
C: Yeah , sure .
D: Yeah .
B: that's a cost reduc
A: well if we do that ,
A: we shall .
B: Ah . C: Okay ,
C: well you you can go from double-curved to single-curved .
A: So um D: Yeah , of course .
C: And that would solve the budget problem .
A: Uh , b but i but the single-curved is just oh B: Yeah ,
B: so we have to bake the ba back flat , and then C: Yeah .
C: It's just yeah well , the single-curve that B: No , it's it's just one curve and not a back uh curved I think . Or A: Oh , okay , okay .
C: Yeah . Exactly , yeah .
B: Or are these two curves ? Uh A: So that's wh tha that's one option .
D: Yeah .
C: A: And then w yeah , and then we could have it ,
D: Yeah ,  A: but uh it's its' well it's it's r it is the main point of the the the the look .
D:  B: Yeah ,
B: but what else uh do we have to cut out ?
C: We going to cut B: No advanced chip , uh that's a little bit of problem .
A: No , tho uh that that can be done .
D: Yeah .
A: So uh ,
B: Although , can we make it with a regular chip ?
A: okay , a little less uh conversation .
B: Curvy .
D: Hey , those ar arcs , why are there for ?
A: Sorry ?
D: The blue blue uh
A: Fill in  A: Just a
D: Okay .
B: Explanation .
A: explanation .
B: Twelve fifty .
C: A: I can delete it for you if you want .
B: Well C: D: No , no no .
A: So , if we do this , uh we're on uh twelve and a half Euro .
A: And we're done .
B: Yeah ,
B: but does it fit with our design ?
B: Do we have to u adapt it ?
A: Uh well , the only uh thing that don't  B: It's single-curves .
A: Yeah , single-curved , but there's a curve in it . So D: Yeah .
B: W
B: Could we just make the bubbles uh cut off the back , and then we're uh has C: Yeah , we just make it flat .
B: Okay .
D: But , wha 'Kay , look ,
C: But , you do l
D: what is the uh D: If you make it double-curved , it costs one Euro more .
B: More . Yeah .
D: But B: You make it optional .
D: No ,
D: but does it have a lot of extra uh C: Function .
B: Functional .
D: fun function more like C: Worth , does it have added worth ?
B: Uh , there's an a a athe aesthetic value , but not functionality .
D: Yeah .
C: No , um A: Yeah , it's really a static value . Yeah .
D: Yeah , uh aesthetic .
D: I mean , uh you make like eleven and a half Euros profit instead of twelve and a half .
D: But I don't know if twelve and a half is uh a fixed uh fixed price .
C: Yeah , well let's assume it is .
A: Yeah , it is . Oh .
D: No , we can't go above that .
D: Yeah ?
C: We we should assume it i that it is .
A: Yeah , okay .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah , okay . Then it's okay .
C: But I I figured that the kinetic would be a marketing promotion .
C: R if you uh promote a kinetic um I kinetic remote control , I mean , that would b sell better than an a normal remote control .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
A: Do you think ?
D: Yeah , I think so .
A: Well , now you can shake your remote control . C: No , well , y I mean uh , y you can go into your neighbour and tell him , ha , my k uh remote control is kinetic .
A: Kinetic .
C: You have standard old battery control uh remote con
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: What a what about all the m the environment freaks ?
B: Yeah .
D: Not freaks ,
B: Yeah , but it doesn't fit in our co cost profile . So D: the envi
C: D: No .
C: True .
D: I I think it's it's D: It look like this one .
B: You ma can make an an especialised extra gold version .
A: Yeah ?
A: Who A: because if you want to go to kinetic , you're uh you're on thirteen and a half and you must go to flat ,
D: A: and I think now it's it's more of uh a compromise
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: thing .
A: And if you make the single curve ha just a big curve ,
D: A: then it's uh then it's uh B: Yeah , just one big curve . A: yeah , one big good curve .
C: A: I was going to uh say nasty words , but I don't .
C: D: A: This is strange by the way .
A: Wood is m is is is cheaper than rubber .
A: We thought that wood would be more expensive .
D: Yeah .
B: Uh , this uh American figures .
B: You just cut down some trees . A: Yeah , maybe .
A: But uh that A: this is this is it ?
A: Yeah . Okay , this is it .
D: This is it .
B: Whoever makes uh a remote control out of titanium .
A: I'm gonna save it .
A: Yeah .
B: Yes . C: It is possible , but you can't use double uh curves for titanium .
B: No .
C: That's one of the functionability uh A: Okay , well ,
A: considering we have D: Ah no , we have to do all those hours again .
A: C: D: Go back .
D: One back ?
D: Costs on uh  No redesign . C: B: A: Well , we were above , so we did a little redesign D: Yeah .
B: We sue . D: Yeah ,  okay , yeah .
B: We Yeah , we'll start her all o all over again .
A: Okay , um
A: now uh it's about time to uh talk about uh this project .
A: Uh , some uh things .
A: Were there uh room for uh A: was there room for creativity in our meetings or in your individual meetings ?
B: Um D: Hmm .
D: I I didn't think so . That there was a lot of room for it .
D: But , that's mainly because uh of the information that was delivered to us .
A: Yeah .
D: It was just fixed information and get your stuff from there ,
D: and I couldn't go on on i on the internet and search my own stuff . Bu
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah , yeah , yeah .
A: That's true . I agree with that .
C: Well , I th I think you two , uh especially you and uh and uh Daniel , you d you you both had uh the less creative uh roles in the project .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah . That's true .
B: For us , there was a lot of creativity .
C: 'Cause I think m
B: We could just sign up an uh remote if we liked .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah , that's true .
C: I think Jeroen and I , we had a more design we could have more we had more room for creativity than than you two .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah . Yeah , that's true .
A: Okay .
A: Uh how about the leadership ? B: Uh  C: Ha .
D: Leadership was uh crappy .
B: Crappy . Cra
C: Nah , the leadership wasn't crappy , it was the leader that was crappy .
A: B: Yeah . D: Okay .
A: Okay , thank you very much .
C: Nah . No ,
C: the  leadership was okay . D: A: Now we're done . B: Yeah , example of crappy leadershi
D: No , leadership was uh
B: Okay , yeah .
D: Okay ,
C: Yeah , it was good .
D: I thought uh the first meeting was a little bit of unstructured meeting .
A: Yeah , that's true .
D: Uh , you could have D: but uh , it was your first ,
D: no uh no disrespect or something ,
D: but you could have uh structure it a l little bit more .
C: A: D: So like , I I was talking most of the time the first meeting meeting , and A: Yeah .
B: You could of said , shut up you fool . A: Yeah .
C: D: Yeah .
A: Yeah . I notice it too .
D: But A: I was a I was also very uh unhappy , uh very unsatisfied uh about the
D: About me . A:  about the first meeting .
C: A: So , uh I hope uh uh the the the other meetings uh
D: Yeah , you made up . C: Try to learn from your mistake . And we will never do it again .  A: get better
A: and uh I think the the last two meetings uh also we we reached uh some good decisions about uh talk D: No , it you did better .
B: Yeah , more more consensus .
D: Yeah .
B: Ev everybody w was agreeing every A: yeah .
D: Much more constructive .
A: Okay , so uh that's cool .
B: Yeah .
A: Uh , teamwork ?
A: Well , maybe that's uh only A: Yeah well , it's for us , because uh B: Well , we work together on a project , but everybody has his own task .
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah
B: So , it is a little bit A: and it's wo more like presentation and some points were discussed .
D: B: Yeah . No A: But , really teamwork were you two uh D: Two guys .
B: Well , it went okay .
A: The C: Yeah , that went w it went well .
C: It's it's just uh A: Yeah ?
B: Stupid stupid pen , but uh A: No hard feelings .
C: Nah . Yeah , we we had some trouble with the pen , but A: A: Yeah .
A: Now you you must push a little while .
B: Yeah ,
B: but but draw something uh difficult .
C: Yeah , but us C: Yeah .
B: D uh just write your name right now .
B: Try to write your name ,
C: A: Okay .
B: in in writing letters , of course , yeah ?
B: Yeah , normally , uh this uh