Project Manager: Okay , so the the main por uh the main points you are uh telling us are focus on the inter uh operability ,
Industrial Designer: Yes ,
Project Manager: and Industrial Designer: so one thing uh one remote control should uh control one or more uh pieces of equipment ,
Project Manager: Okay , and and uh Industrial Designer: and the way of communicating with these equipments .
Project Manager: Okay . Okay , good .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: Um that was your presentation ? Okay , okay .
Industrial Designer: That's it .
Project Manager: Um okay . Great . Um I'll go back to my own presentation . Um Mm . Okay . Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things .
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications . Um there are other things like um how to make it trendy , which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role . Um the way how it should be controlled by the user , which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part . Um so let's start with you .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: H how do you think the remote should um function for the user ?
User Interface: Well , I had a few uh things in mind . Um well , the interoperability , just like uh Sebastian said , um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um Yeah uh , what is it , devices ?
Project Manager: Yep .
User Interface: Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store .
Industrial Designer: Yes , I think it should be something like that .
User Interface: It's not for uh for uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product ,
Project Manager: Okay , so we're we're going business to consumer ,
User Interface: right ?
Project Manager: not we're we're it's not a User Interface: Yeah , I do I don't know that . It's no I have uh don't have the information for it .
Industrial Designer: We're not developing this product for a specific vendor , are we ?
Project Manager: No . No .
Industrial Designer: No ,
User Interface: No , okay .
Industrial Designer: we're just developing this product , and we want to sell it to a very broad uh public , so it should fit to every device .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Uh Ruud , y do you agree ?
Marketing: Yeah , I think I think they're right , yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . Okay .
User Interface: Um Well , the techni fu technical function uh  what you said is just by pressing the button you should change the state of the T_V_ . That's just the basic f technical function .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: So that was my really my part for uh this session . Um Project Manager: So is that ease of use or uh is that more like um Industrial Designer: Yeah .  User Interface: Well , that's just the fu the technical function is pure what should the remote control do , wh what is his task uh as an uh as an uh device .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: It just should change the T_V_'s state .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: So that's it . Um but furthermore Industrial Designer: And you you see uh the buttons as a as a means of doing this ?
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah , with buttons .
Industrial Designer: Or are there any o other controls ?
User Interface: Yeah , or maybe you want a touch-screen or Industrial Designer: Are there only any other cont Well , User Interface: But