Project Manager: I would yeah .
Industrial Designer: Shall we uh make a new uh Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah l let's just uh delete all these uh or Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Next .
Marketing: .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I just make a new one .
User Interface: Oh , next .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Oh and save this uh board .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: Just save it .
Industrial Designer: Huh ? Yeah I'll just I'll just keep it there .
Project Manager: Yeah okay but just press save and uh Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: It'll be fine .
Marketing: On the left . S so , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh sorry .
Project Manager: You can also include clip-art . User Interface: Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: So if you'll rather draw in paint or something  Industrial Designer: Current colour ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So um User Interface: Okay . Uh Industrial Designer: Shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape first ?
User Interface: Yeah . And then after that we can make the user uh inter interface .
Industrial Designer: Because I I Project Manager: then look .
Industrial Designer: Yeah 'cause I have to uh focus on the on the basic look-and-feel design .
Marketing: This ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So how it's gonna look . And you have to think uh how we're gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things .
Marketing: Uh pretty accurate .
Industrial Designer: So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be able to put a screen in there , you have to correct .
Marketing: Oh we skip this I guess . Sound button press .
User Interface: Yep .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh do you mind if I draw in black then ? For normal sketches .
Project Manager: You can also include it . It's not much work .
User Interface: Oh no it's it's okay .
Marketing: Light only button user ca user interaction .
Industrial Designer: so we kind of want the girlish
Marketing: Project Manager: That's included .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: figure .
Marketing: So the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help uh because of um they are only lit during interaction . So Industrial Designer: I'm not so good at drawing . Excuse me ?
Marketing: Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um , well that they are plastic , because then you can light up the light on when when they are usable .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: No uh uh .
Marketing: Maybe you should draw it very large like this .
User Interface: Yeah but this part isn't uh functioning properly .
Project Manager: Yeah . Sensitive .
Marketing: Oh right .
Industrial Designer: How do we uh uh
Marketing: Erase ?
Industrial Designer: or insert text ?
Project Manager: I dunno . Maybe just start typing .
Industrial Designer: User Interface: It's a bit uh large . Industrial Designer: Oh that's a bit big . Yeah . Project Manager: You also do the other sides . Not only on the front si uh the top side but also the the side view .
User Interface: .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Ex exactly .
User Interface: L let's make first the the the all the views . The the front view , side view and the back view .
Industrial Designer: Uh Project Manager: Uh .  Industrial Designer: Uh I thought for the side view , that the w the basic section would be rather uh a bit thicker than the middle , where you're holding it with your Project Manager: Jesus . What do I write down ? Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Why can't I work here ? This is much easier . User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Much easier , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: 'cause your fingers have to fit underneath and User Interface: The middle has to be very small so you can have it in your hand .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: I don't see a sign that the meeting is over yet but Industrial Designer: Exactly but the uh but the upper side has to be a bit more like that I think .
Project Manager: No so I just work here a few minutes . Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah the display ,
Industrial Designer: Uh don't you think ?
User Interface: we yeah we can put a display .
Industrial Designer: So the display we will put in here , the basic uh functions in here , where it's most reachable .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The User Interface: The the arrow functions . Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The th Exactly . Oh . This is hard .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: What do  don't have to draw it exactly do we ?
User Interface: No it's it's uh it's okay .
Industrial Designer: Wait . Let me try it one more time . Maybe I've uh it's easier if I draw it in once . Okay , of course it will become way more ugly . User Interface: You can make it m larger . Maybe it's easier to to draw uh Industrial Designer: Yeah . This'll take forever . It's fun to work with this pen .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Um so , larger .
Marketing: Oh .
User Interface: Yeah that's that's the basic idea . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And Marketing: Wrong one .
Industrial Designer: yeah . So side .
Project Manager: Five minutes left before the meeting ends .
Industrial Designer: 'Kay . Um other views ?
Project Manager: Marketing: Alright .
User Interface: Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the unit .
Industrial Designer: Uh User Interface: That's the question .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Let's fill i fill in the buttons later .
Marketing: But we we User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So this is gonna be from the
Marketing: I is it if if this is from the side Industrial Designer: uh from User Interface: From the Marketing: woah . Steady .
Industrial Designer: yeah yeah . Sorry .
Marketing: Because there the screen goes up like that right ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: So then it's like this ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah ?
Marketing: or that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the it's better to have it somewhat like this . Or does it flip all the way ?
User Interface: Yeah I'm I'm Industrial Designer: The the idea is that it has to flip up to here .
User Interface: May maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble . Because it do doesn't have to flip then .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
User Interface: Because we have en enough space for for making a an L_C_D .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah yeah yeah .
User Interface: Because here Marketing: It's better to to have this like this I guess , and then flip it like this .
Industrial Designer: True .
User Interface: But why why do we need uh the flipping uh Industrial Designer: you can adjust the angle to which it flips . So it can also from this angle , it can flip all the way up to there .
User Interface: Okay . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: You can flip it up to there if you want .
Marketing: Yeah . So w yeah . But we still keep the flipping mechanism .
Project Manager: Yeah we keep the flip ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Think so .
Project Manager: Keep the flip live .
Industrial Designer: Yeah because I think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that User Interface: Marketing: User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I dunno .
Marketing: User Interface: Uh the the shape is okay but yeah ? I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism .
Industrial Designer: I thought it would be cool . Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Because we Okay yeah . It's it's for for for more trendy uh Marketing: Yeah but maybe Yeah but maybe we we should then User Interface: Because we have enough space . H here we got uh the basic functions , the the arrow uh yeah button .
Marketing: Yeah there the middle Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it ?
User Interface: Yeah and then h we sh mm .
Marketing: And then like i oh th User Interface: Industrial Designer: Marketing: doh . Come on . So this is the shape . Oh . It hasn't Industrial Designer: . It doesn't aim so well .
User Interface: Marketing: Okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls on the other side , it doesn't fall on the screen .
User Interface: Yeah , then it's Marketing: So there's a layer of rubber on the side .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah yeah . Definitely .
Project Manager: Marketing: So no flipping but just User Interface: No flipping or Project Manager: No flipping ?
Marketing: no .
User Interface: you wanted the flipping so Industrial Designer: Yeah I guess but uh I mean most votes count right ?
User Interface: But if you if you If you drop it it it just breaks . And it has to be very strong because of the . Yeah kind of Project Manager: It's shaking .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Throwing and the kinetics . Oh . We better make we better make it like this . Eventually .
Industrial Designer: Yeah true true .
Project Manager: Yeah just light on top .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: And it's also for the for the children , it's yeah for people not sixteen years .
Industrial Designer: Yeah if you if you're going for the kinetics Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Safer . Mm . Yeah okay that the target group .
User Interface: But there are more Marketing: Uh they are responsible enough to have a mobile phone , so also to to deal with their uh remote uh control . Yes .
User Interface: Yeah okay . That's true . Okay . Yeah ?
Project Manager: Well . I just uh ended the meeting .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . I'm just thinking totally different designs also .
Project Manager: You two go design .
User Interface: Okay wi
Industrial Designer: Remember that the weird pocketphone thingy which looked like kind of a Gameboy .
Project Manager: Oh . By the way . Um User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: Maybe we should try something like that . But yeah .
Marketing: Project Manager: I uh thought up a name for our product . Yeah . It's called uh the Real Remote .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: Oh right .
Marketing: Yeah ?
Project Manager: With a copyright sign after Real . Marketing: Ooh . Industrial Designer: Alright .
User Interface: The Real Remote .
Marketing: Yeah . Alright .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . I like it .
Project Manager: So maybe you can include that somewhere .
Industrial Designer: Okay . This can go .
Marketing: Good . Yeah . We should work in our own room right ? Or not ?
Project Manager: Yeah . Industrial Designer: Oh yeah we have to f uh include that in our design as well .
Project Manager: I don't see any power cables here so Industrial Designer: Let's see .
Marketing: Yeah . Yes .
Industrial Designer: What the hell's that ?
Project Manager: 'Kay .
User Interface: I think uh it's the sensors .
Marketing: See you two in half an hour uh User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh Project Manager: Good luck . User Interface: Yep . Okay that's the side . Ah it's it's okay . But do we want uh options on the on the side with the with the buttons ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah . I think we do .
User Interface: Or just leave it ? Uh could make an uh a volume button uh scroll , volume button .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: Yeah or j or also scrolling for the m yeah .
User Interface: For menu . Or Industrial Designer: Yeah ? I dunno . We w kind of wanted to stick with the User Interface: Yeah . No , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah I'm just thinking , if we i we wanna make something different
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: right ? So the with the scroll is is more futuristic than the standard arrow buttons .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I think .
User Interface: Mm . Yeah you are going to design it so