D: Yeah yeah .
A: I think it's uh it's a pretty good idea
C: So but A: to have uh like sort of a maybe a base station that you put on the T_V_ . Could be flat , you could insert your uh remote into it .
D: Yeah ,
D: that's g
C: But I think that will cost a lot .
C: Uh a normal wire would be better .
A: I'm not sure .
C: Like a like a P_D_A_ , a hand-held . You can uh just put it in the electricity and it charges itself ,
A: A what ?
C: you don't need basic station .
A: Well ,
A: we were talking about the fact that we wanted to insert either a beep or a flash into the thing with a little separate signal
C: Yes .
A: or A: So you could put that on a T_V_ for example .
C: That is possible , that's true .
A: It could be very flat ,
D: But Which A: could be very small .
A: It's a very small A: Yeah ,
A: I'm drawing it big now ,
A: but A: So you can put your remote on flat for example .
C: Mm .
D: Yeah .
A: And at the backside of remote just just just a little hole
C: Yeah .
A: for example um you just put it down , it recharges for example .
C: Yeah .
A: I don't think it's very expensive .
B: But again , isn't that too expensive ?
D: Yeah .
C: B: 'Cause that means that we have to implement rechargeable batteries , a docking station A: I'm not sure if it costs a lot ,
A: that that's what he r
C: Mm .
A: That's that you A: that's what you buy yourself .
C: Yes .
C: I'm going to try to find that out .
C: I'm not sure if there's information available on this ,
A: It's just an idea ,
D: But A: we have to find out if it's possible .
C: but B: And do people actually want that ? To pay extra they want to pay for rechargeable ?
D: Yeah , they want to pay for it .
A: Do they want A: but they want a rechargeable one ?
D: Yeah .
A: I'm not sure ,
A: you should find out if it's if rechargeable is important .
D: Th uh there was not a el ask esque C: Hmm . These are uh comfort issues .
A: Yeah .
D: But C: So I think people will pay they wanted to pay for comfort .
C: Well ,
C: this is comfort .
A: They want to pay for comfort ,
A: we just assu we
A: we could either make a separate station which just sends a signal to the remote control to either beep or flash to find it ,
D: But f
D: hmm .
C: Yes .
A: um and Yeah ,
A: we have to either that or make it integrated with a with a docking station .
C: Hmm .
C: Yeah . Exactly .
C: I think this is a brilliant product .
C: I would buy it myself .
A: I think it would be good actually .
A: I like the beep part anyway .
D: C: Uh .
A: So um
D: A: let's go through the C: I like the covers . That's a brilliant idea .
D: B: Can can we save this or C: I never thought A: Covers is covers is good .
A: Yeah ,
A: it's A: Oh
A: we can save this .
A: Up and saved .
A: We even saved the ant .
B: A: Um  Okay . So
D: A: what we have is you have A: I think you have to do a lot of work on if it's possible for the cost .
C: I hope if I have information about that ,
A: Maybe C: I'm gonna A: yeah ,
A: or maybe you can find out i what people are willing to pay .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: We are going for twenty five Euros sales price ,
C: D: Yeah , okay .
A: but just try to find out what they're willing to pay for it ,
D: Yeah yeah yeah .
A: because if they're willing to pay more , we could lose a little profit and maybe attract more customers ,
C: Mm . Yeah .
A: uh we just have to see what it looks like .
D: Yeah .
C: I would like to make a decision . What it costs and what kind of materials that we can uh choose what we want in it
A: Yeah ,
A: if you have some financial information that that'd be nice ,
C: and C: exactly , I need it .
A: so . Hmm . B: Could you post some other essentials of what people want ,
B: so that I can work with some buttons , where to put it A:  D: Yeah .
B: You seem to have information on that ,
B: I'd like to uh see some of it .
C: Was it not possible to uh send emails around the office ?
A: No , it wasn't wasn't allo
B: No , it's not . No .
C: Not .
A: it was possible ,
A: not allowed ,
A: so .
A: So that's um why I'm not sure that you're allowed to share documents on the on the draft .
D: Yeah .
D: My computer crashed ,
D: so uh
C: Yeah , okay .
A: I don't care .
D: I lost my uh presentation ,
A: I haven't heard any complaints yet ,
B: Oh , your computer . Okay .
A: so . Um D: but
D: I have the uh  B: Well ,
B: I have your PowerPoint presentation ,
B: I can get some inf information out of that .
D: Yeah ,
D: but I
D: Here I have the the s the homepage of uh our internet ,
B: Let's see .
A: Yeah ,
A: the oh , they inc uh
D: and here is my
A: they include the new one . Or just for you .
B: Oh ,
B: where would we D: here is my marketing report ,
D: maybe you ca you can look at uh that
A: Oh
A: no , I didn't have that .
D: and B: Where would we want the uh teletext button ?
D: Ah yeah .
B: Because we decided that it's n not that important .
D: And one A: All it tells just let's make make a new B: Do we put it somewhere over here ?
A: tick the new one .
A: Um other side .
A: Yeah ,
A: let's increase it a little
A: because D: And uh wha what people want , I've uh
B: Or maybe this is something for the next meeting ,
B: I can draw out some ideas .
A: Yeah ,
A: draw us up some some designs of of possible D: I have another thing uh A: just keep in mind that the important buttons should be on top and either big ,
B: Yeah .
A: so the more less important B: Well ,
B: we have decided more or less the basic structure .
A: More or less .
B: I can put the other buttons in A: Just play a little with this ,
A: put l
A: shift a little up or down
B: Yeah .
A: and we'll see what looks best .
C: What uh what did you wanna say ?
A: Or just po post your designs from time to time on the product share .
D: Yeah . Um B: Yeah .
D: Uh what I al already said is the the uh the remote controls are always lost ,
B: Maybe another idea uh .
D: but it it's also for people , they want to learn it fast ,
D: not uh they want to C: Mm . Mm .
A: Yeah , so
A: we don't want we want very little buttons , just the buttons you use a lot .
D: No
C: Mm .
D: It's D: yeah ,
D: it's easy to learn
B: Yes ,
B: but it should cover all the functions ,
D: wi and uh B: so possibly , just an idea that popped in A: Well
A: what D: Um A: we had function that what people do ,
A: so .
A: People change channels ,
A: people  they change the volume
A: and they they change channel ,
A: they turn T_V_ off and on , for example .
A: That's the basic fu
A: that's what you do A: I'm not sure who present that again ,
A: but those are the basic function that people use it for ,
A: so those should be very well represented .
B: Yeah ,
D: And The If B: but we could go a step further ,
B: because some T_V_s have the uh possibility to adjust brightness , that kind of menus .
A: That's true ,
A: but that's what we stick under the menu button .
A: Everything is A: you say in every T_V_ that's configured under the menu .
B: Yes ,
B: but it C: But that's the question ,
B: Because we're making C: is it ?
D: Um C: Because it needs to be configured in the television under the menu .
A: Yeah , but C: If it isn't , then we cannot reach it .
B: We need to adjust to the technology .
A: But I think most modern T_V_s have it in their menu .
C: I think so too . I think so too .
B: True .
C: Uh isn't there a possibility to do research on that , so we know that for sure ?
C: If you rule out functions , then uh and that gets known , then people are not gonna buy it .
D: C: Then the consumer bond or something says uh you cannot do this and that with it .
B: No , I thi
D: If um C: That's a bad bad com commercial
A: Uh we'll we'll see what we can come up with .
C: for  D: Another thing I want to say is that uh we are looking at the market for the age uh younger than forty .
C: okay .
A: Under forty . Yeah ?
C: That's true .
D: Um on my report , I didn't uh ish I didn't show it in my uh presentation ,
A: Mm-hmm .
D: because my computer crashed .
A: Yeah yeah .
D: Um they want to pay for an L_C_D_ screen and speech recognition .
C: Hmm .
C: Hmm .
A: The want to pay for D: So
A: Oh .
C: Did they really said it like that ? Those two things .
D: i
D: yeah . Yeah ,
D: and C: Do they realise how much that costs ? A: Uh shall we ?
C: That's almost undoable .
D: Yeah .
B: Oh , we're not going to be able to sell it for twenty-five then , with an L_C_D_ screen .
A: Younger , age sixteen and forty five .
D: Uh but A: That's all here ,
A: here it says  C: No ,
C: that's that's .
C: Even if i if we have this lost unit , then we cannot do it for that price .
A: Yeah ,
A: age sixteen forty fi interest in main features more critical .
D: If if they A: Okay , so
A: we're not focusing on this .
A: Um All the interest in features , not really the L_C_ A: oh
A: here .
A: Would you pay for uh speech recognition in a remote control .
A: Hmm , okay ?
C: Yeah , that's true .
D: So uh
B: D: we can
A: Speech recognition is quite D: We can look at the possibilities for an uh L_C_D_
D: and uh A: Yeah , just look at the possibilities then ,
D: I dunno .
D: Yeah .
A: because if A: apparently it's what people want ,
C: Hmm .
D: How much it will cost
A: it's supposed to be a luxurious remote ,
C: Uh .
D: and A: maybe it's not even that expensive .
A: Or find a compromise ,
A: maybe just a black and white or for some extra information on it , on your programmes .
C: Uh I D: Um B: Well
B: I doubt it ,
B: but C: But I really need finance information .
A: Me too . A: I mean we all do . D: It will come uh C: We all do . A: Right .
A: I think it's something we should put into consideration .
A: Apparently it's what people want ,
A: so .
C: Mm .
A: We should see if what it costs , if it's possible .
C: Uh .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah . Yeah ,
A: we should do a little thing about design ,
A: because it looks boring really to me .
A: Even if you put it even if you put a different cover on it , it looks still looks boring ,
D: Different colours maybe .
A: so .
C: Hmm .
C: And the design , it should differ .
D: But all C: This is Philips ,
C: huh ?
C: Philips has this .
A: I have no clue .
B: Well ,
A: I just drew something what which would fit into your hand easily .
B: I had basically C: Okay .
C: Hmm .
C: Uh .
B: Something like this . To make it kind of futuristic .
C: Mm . Oh ,
C: I realise if we make it small , then it needs to be a little thicker ,
A: I think it's a very C: because I need to put all the electronics in it .
A: Sorry ?
C: If we make it s uh smaller , uh less wide , then we need to m make it a little thicker ,
A: Yeah ?
C: because I have to put all the electronics in it .
A: Okay . Mm-hmm .
A: Yeah ,
A: but you have to j just keep in mind it shouldn't be too heavy .
D: Okay .
A: I mean we can stick it in in there , I think .
C: No .
A: Huh
B: So
B: what kind of A: even if A: in the worst case we can even A: Could you give me the pen back ?
B: Yeah , sure .
A: So
A: let's say that people would want an L_C_D_ thing .
A: Let's take take the basic design again , what we oh , crap uh came up with .
A: I'll just make it a little bigger now .
A: So
A: a transmitter here .
A: Anyway .
A: We could A: let's say we have an L_C_D_ screen ,
A: people want an L_C_D_ screen .
A: So then we should probably put it here .
D: A: It doesn't have to be really big ,
A: but just just have to be has to be there .
C: Hmm .
A: Think it's a good place ,
A: people don't D: If you're reading from top to bottom , I think it's better to put it uh at the top .
A: No ?
A: It's not that uh it's not the most important function ,
C: Me too .
D: It's j A: it's just an extra thing ,
C: Ah
A: it just D: Uh . But i if you if you are going to uh put the L_C_D_ on it , I think it's very important to use it ,
A: you press the buttons on top ,
C: but .
A: because your finger is on top .
D: uh because it's  use it uh
A: How can you use an L_C_D_ screen ?
D: But nee the function of it . D: So you can use it maximum ,
D: because uh it's a lot it costs a lot .
D: So A: Yeah ,
A: but why
A: I I'm not sure .
B: Now it's pretty much tucked away in your hand .
A: Uh if you t if you press a button , you can see it ,
C: Hmm . No .
A: ri
A: I'm not sure wha
A: I'm trying to imagine myself what it would look like .
C: M
C: I personally would prefer it on the top .
B: I'm A: You would prefer it
D: Yeah .
A: n
A: Okay .
C: Huh .
A: So we have three people saying it should be on top .
A: Okay ,
C: But it A: but then you would would s have to stack away your buttons somewhere else .
C: Hmm .
A: Anyways .
D: It's expensive to build it ,
D: so
C: Mm .
A: Uh this looks a little D: you must use the maximum of it .
B: I'm still not convinced of the A: About the L_C_D_s thing .
B: Yeah .
C: Hmm .
A: Well
A: if it if it's
A: if it's possible wi if it's not too expensive , we should include it ,
C: They want it uh .
A: because it's it's cool . C: We should just try to make that if it's possible . If it is possible we should really do it ,
C: but we need that information .
D: Huh . Uh . But uh C: Also keep in mind again , the L_C_D_ screen is very flat ,
C: but it needs transistors , resistors , I don't know what more
C: and that needs space .
C: So I have to look if that's possible .
D: Yeah , I know uh .
C: But if we B: So basically
B: can I A: Uh we have green now uh B: what we have to decide now is uh what goes on top .
B: Do we put the volume control and the channel control here ,
B: or do we put it on he
B: Would we like to press it in the middle ?
D: In middle of it .
A: Or maybe we should m we could uh draw draw something a bit that has it on on on the bottom .
D: In the middle .
A: Maybe in a circle for example , like we like in this example .
A: I think this is not good ,
A: but for A: we could make circular buttons for example . For up and down , ma make it a circle on it ,
C: Hmm .
B: Yes ,
B: but we do agree that we keep this at the centre ,
A: because it D: Yeah .
B: because it's basically the most important function .
A: I think the channel button should be in the centre .
D: It's the most import yeah .
A: Channel button should be st stick together , for example here in this section .
A: Because it's uh B: Well ,
B: that would make them quite small .
A: We're not sure about the size anyway ,
B: So maybe you'd put them here .
A: just a general design .
A: You can make it as big as you want .
A: For example if you take uh B: Yes ,
B: but a big remote control probably not something which people would like .
C: Hmm .
A: No ,
A: let's see .
A: For example just C: If we have a a space issue , we can also lose one battery .
C: It is rechargeable ,
C: so we can stick with one instead of two .
A: Yeah .
D: .
C: That might be an option .
A: I don't think if we if we even use an L_C_D_ screen , we need to , definitely .
C: Yeah ,
C: but if we need two batteries and an L_C_D_ screen , that means a lot of space that we need .
A: Yeah ,
A: but we have to see what the si what the size is .
C: But it has to be a little bit heavier .
C: Okay .
A: The L_C_D_ doesn't have to nee doesn't need to be very big .
D:  C: No ,
C: but the things behind it . space .
A: Mm let's see .
C: Like a process uh .
D: Finish meeting now .
D: It's on your computer .
A: Finish meeting now .
A: Okay , we will .
B: So
B: would we like this
A: So either B: or would we like the A: We either we have to decide what what people want .
C: I like this one more .
A: Either this one ,
A: this this could be the luxurious one .
A: So we have channel buttons here .
A: I'm just drawing something uh . Uh A: I think this would this would look cool .
A: You could have it for example small buttons here for some extra functions ,
D: Uh .
A: so if your basic function's here , we should like we decided before , programmes up and down , and volume here .
C: Mm .
B: Let's see what we have here .
D: Or D: And uh what about speech recognition uh