D: I dunno .
A: It's kind of like uh like a joystick kind of thing ,
B: Ooh .
A: you know ,
C: Cool .
B: A: kinda push it .
B: Hey .
A: 'Kay .
B: A: Maybe a little smaller than that .
B: No ,
C: B: I kinda like it .
B: That's hard to miss .
C: It makes look more fruity as well .
B: A: Oh it does ,
A: it's kind of like C: It's like a deformed foot ,
B:    C: I dunno .
C: A: There it could have a stem like that ,
A: 'cause I do l kind of like the stem .
B: Like  C: Yeah .
B: A: Yeah .
A: It almost helps you ge keep a grip too ,
A: 'cause it goes in between fingers .
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: Interesting .
A: I like this one .
B: Okay ,
B: is that where people are leaning then , the potato ?
A: Variety of colours are nice .
B: I like the idea of the A: I think I'm leaning towards the potato .
B: I mean
B: that's really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down , that one .
A: Mm-hmm .
A: I am worried about like um using a menu .
A: Um in that A: like
A: i
A: withing menus there are submenus ,
B: Hmm .
A: and so how do you get back to the main menu ?
C: Yeah .
B: Well
B: that B: on the iPod , for example , you just every time you wanna go back you hit the menu button again
B: and it brings you back one level .
A: But that has a menu button separate from a select button ,
A: whereas if this one's both the menu and the select button ?
C: Yeah .
B: Good point .
C: This is , it's C: the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices .
A: Okay .
C: You find the choice that you want
C: and you press uh you press the right button uh .
D: A: Could these be used for going to submenus
C: Yeah . Yeah , so they're used for going into and out of your submenus , yeah .
B: Maybe A: or B: yeah ,
B: maybe it can be one of those ,
A: Okay .
B: if you press down and hold
B: for two seconds , then it brings you back one level or something .
A: Mm-hmm .
A: Okay . Well ,
A: as long as we have that in mind as we're designing it still ,
A: mm 'kay .
D: Okay , so
D: which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s um necessities ,
D: the yellowy one is that B: The potato ? Are we leaning towards the potato ?
C: Potato .
A: I think so .
D: Okay ,
D: well
D: we can obviously change it after we go through each different one .
B: Okay .
D: So
D: basically what we need to do is
D: some of the things that we've talked about before we need to make sure that that remote actually does conform to the things that we said it was going to .
B: Okay .
D: So
D: what we sort of wanna do is that we each need to separately
D: rank each of the following things
D: and then I'll tabulate an average
D: just to make sure that it does meet that .
B: Okay .
D: So
D: we'll just go through them one at a time
D: and we'll just go around
D: and each of you can tell me on a scale of one to seven
D: with one being really extremely true
D: and seven being not true at all , or false ,
D: if the remote that we've created conforms to the following criteria .
D: So
D: we can do this one first .
D: First we wanna know if it meets the fancy look and feel um objective .
D: So like
D: in my opinion the  for now at least , the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle
D: so I'm gonna say it's like a three .
D: That's just my opinion .
B: Yeah .
D: What does each of you A: I I kind of think it's it's unique enough that I'd give it a one or a two .
D: Okay ,
D: well
D: give it a number ,
A: Okay .
D: sorry .
A: I will give it a one .
B: Um I dunno if it's
B: it's creative .
B: I dunno if fancy is the word I would use .
B: I dunno if any of them are fancy
B: in B: I'd say two ,
B: because c unique .
D: Okay .
D: And two ,
C: I'll go for two .
D: awesome .
D: Alright ,
D: and same sort of scale for functionality , is it functional ?
D: I think it's extremely functional ,
D: I'm gonna give it a one .
B: Yeah ,
B: one .
D: One ?
C: I think it's it's functional ,
C: it's also pretty basic ,
C: so I'll give it a two .
D: Okay .
A: Um functional .
A: I think it'll get everything done ,
A: I think it might be a little confusing at first ,
A: um , I don't know if that's gonna be a later one .
D: Okay .
D: Well
D: there's some other ones ,
D: I will address that ,
D: yeah .
A: Okay ,
A: then I'm gonna give it a two .
D: Awesome ,
D: okay .
D: Um we wanna know next if it's technologically innovative .
A: Did you give a functional ?
D: Yeah ,
D: she said it was one .
A: Okay .
D: Um is it technologically innovative ?
D: Mm . Not really , I mean not so much ,
D: 'cause we we don't have the L_C_D_ screen ,
D: we don't have fancy chip .
D: Other than what it looks like , I dunno if it's really A: Well ,
A: the kinetic battery .
B: In the battery , that's it .
D: I
D: kinetic battery is a big one ,
D: so .
B: How many people would notice that , though ?
D: Mm .
D: But it A: But they'll notice it after like a year ,
D: but we know it's there .
A: they'll be like hey , I have never changed the battery .
D: And if it's made of like latex , that whole idea , that's pretty cool .
A: Mm . Just the material .
D: I'll give it a three .
D: 'Cause it D: we could've picked a lot of features that would've made it really B: Yeah .
B: I I would say that it's B: Yeah ,
B: like fancy versus creative it's it's different .
B: But does that equal innovative ?
B: I dunno .
B: I'll give it a three .
D: Alright .
D: Everyone else ?
C: I'd say it's technologically it's not it's not unique ,
C: I mean it's it's just it is just pushbuttons um ,
C: so I I'd give it a four .
A: Think I'm gonna go with the four as well .
D: Mm 'kay .
A: I really like that kinetic battery though .
D: Next , is it easy to use ?
D: Just so you know , easy to learn will be separate ,
A: Mm 'kay .
D: so don't overlap them .
B: Okay .
D: I think it's really easy to use .
D: I'll give it a two .
B: Um I'll give it a one .
B: Pretty hard to mess up .
C: I'll say one .
A: Uh let's say two .
D: Alright .
D: Um we next wanna see if it has a spongy quality
B: C: D: and if indeed it's made of latex or rubber I it's spongy all the way . B: A: Give it a one .
D: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: I wonder if it bounces when you drop it .
B: Ooh ,
D: Mm-hmm .
B: that you couldn't C: B: it'd be harder to break ,
B: harder to lose . A: Mm .
C: Yeah .
A: 'Cause there would be less impact maybe , .
D: Iain , what do you give it ?
B: Mm .
C: Yeah
C: I'd I'd give it a one .
D: Alright
D: and the next is , does it integrate some notion of fruits and vegetables ?
B: C: Uh um .
D: Well ,
D: is it gonna be yellow ?
B: It it might be ,
B: 'cause that's our corporate colour ,
B: isn't it ?
A: That's right , yeah ,
A: corporate colour , we didn't keep that in C: Yeah .
B: We might wanna keep it yellow .
A: um well
A: if we A: I know it would make it a little less c a little more confusing ,
A: but if we had all the buttons in black , and a design in and the outside in yellow , that'd be our corporate one
A: and we could also have alternative colours , one a more conservative one , one that's more fruity .
C: D: Yeah ,
D: but if you had like a silvery kind of white or something .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah ,  A: Um and can we have like an R_R_ inscribed on the bottom or something ?
B: If we had a yellow B: Sure .
A: Okay .
D: Oh ,
C: Yeah .
D: yeah .
D: Alright , so
A: Fruity , so fruity .
B: So D: I think it it's B: it was inspired by the potato ,
B: so I think it's pretty fruity .
D: Yeah .
A: I think i it's kind of mangoey too .
D: B: Oh , mango
D: Yeah .
C: Mangoey is better , yeah .
D: I D: okay ,
A: Yes .
B: that that  D: I'm giving it a one C: I like mangoes .
D: the mango put me over .
A: Mm .
B: That's a much more trendy than a potato D: What are what's everyone's numbers ?
B: one .
C: Uh two .
A: One .
B: D: Alright
D: um , and does the design match the appropriate behaviour ?
D: Remember earlier we discussed that people don't use a lot of buttons ,
D: that they use the channel flipping and the volume the most .
D: I think we really took that into account a lot ,
D: so I'm gonna give it a one .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: Yeah , me too .
C: Uh one .
D: Did you say one , Rose ?
A: Yes .
D: Okay um ,
D: also we talked earlier about R_S_I_ and wanting to prevent um any sort of like Carpal Tunnely kind of thing .
D: Do we think that the latex sort of grip appropriately takes that into account ?
D: I think I'll give it a two ,
D: 'cause I almost feel like no matter what you do , something is gonna happen .
A: It's gonna be hard .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah , yeah .
A: And if it's repetitive movement it is gonna be only four buttons that you're constantly pushing ,
A: but um D: Um um worth the risk , I think .
A: I like how it fits in the hand though
A: so I I'd go with a two .
B: Yeah .
B: I'll I'll say two as well .
B: Because older people that aren't used to like texting with the thumb might find it a bit at first ,
A: Mm .
D: 'Kay .
B: but C: Yeah
C: I'll I'll say two .
D: Alright ,
D: awesome .
D: And the ease of learning it .
D: I know you were saying that you're a little bit nervous about that ,
D: I dunno .
D: It sort of reminds me of the iPod .
D: I just got mine ,
D: I still haven't read the instruction book
D: and I'm doing okay , so A: Mm .
D: and I'm not good at learning technology .
D: So I'll give it a two .
B: The menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing ,
B: but I think if it's one it's one of those things that it might take you five minutes to figure out , but you'll have it afterwards .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: So I'd I think I'd give it a two I guess .
C: I think it it's probably a little harder then most remotes to learn ,
C: because you have to you have to use the menu system
C: and you have to tell it what your favourite channels are
C: and that could take a bit of learning at first ,
B: Oh ,
B: good point .
D: Mm-hmm .
C: but
C: once you've , yeah once you'd learned how to use it , I think it is a lot easier .
C: So I'd I'd give it a four .
D: Okay .
A: I think I'd give it a four too .
A: It's a pretty high learning curve ,
A: it'll be easy once you've done it ,
A: but D: Mm-hmm .
C: Yeah .
B: D: Alright , um
D: also earlier we had something about losing it
D: and so now we're not addressing that at all ,
D: so B: A: We we A: I think we can kind of say we addressed it with colour ,
D: Okay , so
A: but D: in terms of not losing it , do you think that on a scale of one to seven , how easy or hard is it to lose ?
D: I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a four ,
D: 'cause I think that you can still D: if it's in between somewhere where you can't see it , you're kind of not gonna find it ,
D: but anywhere else it's gonna stand out .
A: Mm-hmm .
C: Yeah .
B: Um I'd say I'd give it uh a three ,
B: I guess it depends on how tidy you are normally .
A: Mm I'd give it a four .
C: Um I'll give it a five
C: 'cause i it would be easy to lose something like that , yeah .
A: Small too .
D: Alright ,
D: we also said simplicity ,
D: how w how well does it address just being simple ?
B: Simple to use or simple in design ? Do you know ?
D: I think overall ,
D: 'cause we had said before our two main things were simplicity and fashion ,
D: so those are the next two things we're gonna look at .
B: D: Separate from fancy , like that sort of thing .
B: Right .
D: Um it like wants to be simple but it's not like totally totally simple ,
D: so I'm gonna give it a two .
B: I'm give it a three I guess .
C: I'll give it a two .
A: Three .
D: Alright ,
D: and fashionable ?
A: It's totally fashionable .
D: It's hot ,
C: A: I'd give it a one .
B: D: I mean it's a mango , come on .
A: Mango .
D: I mean how fashionable can you make a remote ?
D: I think it's bringing technology and fashion together real really well .
B: I dunno .
C: B: I don't think it's quite as fashionable as my robot remote
A: I do like uh the little Martian one . B: or alien or whatever he was .
D: Yeah ,
D: the toggle on off switch , it's really appealing .
B: C: D: D: Number .
B: Um two .
C: Three .
A: One .
D: And does it meet our like demographic need sort of for international appeal , that whole thing ?
D: Just that it would se serve our audience .
D: I don't see why not .
A: Mm-hmm .
A: I think as long A: if we offer in a in at least three different colour arrangements .
A: Um yeah , that's good .
B: Yeah .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: So I'll give it a a two .
B: Yeah ,
B: I'll say two .
D: Alright ,
D: did anyone have any other features that they think were important that we didn't talk about ?
A: Well um
A: we didn't we didn't address the fact that it does need to b have a corporate logo ,
A: so let's let's make sure we keep that in mind that we ha that one of our colours concepts is corporate and has an R_R_ on it .
B: Shall we uh B: Well
B: I think all of them should have an R_R_ .
A: All of them should have R_R_ ,
A: yeah .
D: And so we're gonna do that ,
D: so it will address it ,
A: Mm-hmm .
A: Mm 'kay .
D: fine .
D: Okay .
D: That's me .
A: Lovely .
A: Okay ,
A: now we're gonna look at finances .
A: Um I have an Excel sheet that we're actually gonna calculate the cost um ,
A: so let me exit out of this first .
A: Okay um D: Whoa .
B: Oh my . A: I know .
A: Let me one more space .
A: Gonna zoom in real quick .
A: A: Okay .
A: Hand dynamo .
A: We're using kinetic battery ,
B: Uh we're n using kinetic , yeah .
A: right ?
A: Um and we're having one per B: Yeah .
A: One , okay .
A: Um electronics .
B: Single .
B: Simple , simple rather .
A: Simple .
D: Simple .
A: Mm 'kay .
A: Um the case .
B: Uh uh uh double-curved .
C: Guess it's double-curved .
C: It is pretty curvy .
D: Yeah .
A: It's very curvy ,
A: so okay . B: Yeah
B: I never did get a picture of those
B: so I don't really know .
B: Our case material supplements B: oops ,
B: we just skipped by them .
D: Well
D: don't we need plastic , and B: No ,
B: we we the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed .
D: Provided , okay .
B: The supplement is A: The wood ?
B: Oh ,
B: I guess it was rubber rather than latex .
A: I mean the rubber .
D: It was rubber and special colour ,
D: right ?
B: Yeah .
A: Mm-hmm , okay .
D: Do we have more than one special colour ?
A: Yeah ,
B: Uh well A: we're using we're gonna need at least two special colours .
C: Special colours ,
C: isn't it ?
A: Um .
B: I don't know what the se the basic colour is though .
D: Per A: I dunno where it A: yeah .
D: Well ,
D: but we know that we're having at least three colours ,
A: So let's y say three .
D: so B: Well ,
B: are we talking about on each colour combination
B: or are we ,
B: you know ,
B: we'll B: like we'll have yellow and black .
B: Is that two special colours ?
A: Yeah ,
A: I dunno .
B: Or or is white and black , then two more or  A: That I thi
A: I thought that would be under yours .
B: Uh . I guess it's three ,
A: We'll just say three .
B: three
B: three .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: Right .
B: Alright .
A: Maybe the R_R_ will be in colour as well ,
A: so yeah .
A: Interface ,
A: we're doing push buttons .
B: Yeah .
A: And how many buttons do we have ?
D: We have six .
C: We've got five .
D: Oh
B: Six , with the power .
D: no ,
C: Oh A: Six .
D: five .
C: six .
D: B: Yeah .
A: Anything else ?
B: No .
B: Oh ,
B: we'll do we wa
B: Are the buttons in special colour ,
B: special f
B: I didn't get information on D: Oh
D: wait .
A: Oh ,
A: buttons A: oh , so um . So
A: the case material will just have one colour ,
A: right ,
A: but then the buttons will be in special colours ?
B: Well ,
D: Yeah .
B: does it B: but if we're making multiple varieties of this is where I'm getting confused .
A: We're saying per unit .
B: per unit , okay , okay .
D: Yeah , per unit .
A: Okay ,
A: so each unit will only have one colour on their B: Alright ,
B: and each button s
A: but the case is A: could have up to thr
A: I mean the buttons could ea could be up to three colours ,
A: 'cause that how it's designed there .
D: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: I like it like that .
B: Yeah , okay .
A: So A: Special form ?
A: They're all kind of just push button ,
B: No ,
B: I think they're fine .
A: right ?
C: Yeah .
A: Special material ?
B: Material , we want them rubber as well probably , yeah .
A: Uh . Oh
A: do A: I have to do it per button ,
A: do I ?
B: No , I don't think so .
B: I think they're B: if they're all gonna be rubber then it that's what it matters .
A: Okay .
D: Yeah ,
D: 'cause it wouldn't make sense otherwise ,
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: 'cause for the whole mat case material it's only one .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: Yeah .
D: It's D: I mean it's two to make it rubber .
B: Okay .
D: Oh wait ,
D: so maybe .
D: A: Thirteen point seven .
B: Oh oh .
A: Yeah ,
A: what can we reduce ?
B: Okay ,
B: let's have our buttons all be one colour .
D: Mm , I kind of like the buttons .
A: Let's see what that would do .
A: It's only gonna bring us down to thirteen point three anyway .
B: Alright .
A: Okay um ,
B: Uh .
A: are we sure this is double-curved ?
A: Maybe it's single-curved ,
B: We have no idea .
A: we have no idea .
B: I dunno ,
B: I didn't get any pictures .
B: It's single curved .
D: It's single curved .
B: Why not ?
A: Well
A: it's not the A: yeah . Okay ,
A: it's the kinetic battery that's kind of expensive ,
A: but we have a simple chip , single curve ,
D: A: case material is rubber
A: and it's a special colour ,
B: Yeah .
A: but that's important .
B: That is important .
A: Six buttons we have to have six buttons .
B: How did it get more expensive ,
B: what did you just change ?
A: What ?
B: It was it was thirteen
B: and now it's fifteen .