A: Okay ,
A: welcome everyone to our next meeting .
A: I'm busy writing
A: and busy leading the meeting ,
A: but um I've prepared a little presentation once again um or at least an agenda
A: I think uh the biggest part of the presentation will be uh on your side .
A: Um we are here at the conceptual design meeting , which is hereby opened .
A: Um once again I will try to uh write some minutes
A: which I just from the previous meeting uh placed inside our project folder ,
A: which was quite some typing .
A: Um today we once again have uh three presentations , if I'm right ,
A: and after that we will take a decision on the remote control concepts .
A: And just as the last time we have forty minutes to accomplish that .
A: Okay , well
C: A: I'd say let's start with the first presentation .
D: 'Kay .
A: Um in the same order as last time ?
C: W
C: sure .
B: Mm . Alright .
A: Okay .
A: Well ,
A: take it away .
B: C:  Okay
C: uh welcome you all .
D: B: C: Components design ,
C: um uh first of all uh I would like to uh uh accommodate some of those uh things I uh uh elaborate some of the things I did .
C: I I elaborated on the concept .
C: What should be um
C: uh said about uh the components , uh its properties
C: and what kind of materials should we use to uh to make uh one of those r remote controls .
C: Uh well
C: first of all I've uh d subtracted some of the components that is that are used uh are w w um you know from what uh the remote control's formed .
C: Uh first of all , the case , the case , the surrounding of the of the the remote control .
C: I would like to uh give you an idea of uh how I thought about .
D: Don't destroy my giraffe .
C: Giraffe's gone now .
D: B: C: Okay um
C: the case was is made from rubber , I suppose .
C: There's one of the C: because when you use a remote control a lot of people uh will uh will uh drop their remote control
D: Drop it .
C: and they break uh
B: Hmm .
C: becau
C: the uh titanium was also an option .
C: But uh it's a very expensive material .
C: Uh rubber is , I think , uh the best suitable uh material uh to use uh for our uh
C: for our remote control .
C: Um it's poss it's also possible to uh create fancy colours with rubber .
C: Uh rubber l makes it easy to uh to to it lets lets itself colour .
C: Uh titanium uh you have to paint it
C: and with that uh it's possible to scratch it
C: or uh yeah make it ugly .
C: Uh rubber uh the total uh piece of rubber that's sor uh that's that's used uh to make the case is uh the same colour ,
C: so if you scratch it it's still the same colour ,
C: perhaps uh it's a little bit damaged .
C: But it's a very strong material .
C: Um I h I had an idea single covered uh curved , sorry , single curved .
B: C: Uh so
C: it's t two dimensional .
C: I think it's uh it's best to draw
C: oh
C: green .
B: It's a colour . D: Bright colour . Fancy colour . Forward .
C: Uh C: New . Blank .
C: Okay .
D: You have to go t
C: Let's make it uh black .
C: Okay .
C: I thought of an idea like this .
C: Oh that .
C: Um delete .
C: Blank .
C: Okay .
C: So it also looks nice when it's on your table .
C: So you get
B: C: uh it doesn't lay flat down on the table ,
C: but it's c it's stands .
D: Oh
D: it's a side view .
C: Side view yes it's side view
C: so uh
C: I I'm not technically good at th three D_ modelling ,
D: C: but .
B: C: Um uh it's just an idea I had
C: so it's uh it's very uh
C: so its also looks nice when it's on the table .
C: Um the graphical user interface and the buttons , uh we also thought about that already .
C: Uh I thought about uh the L_C_D_ touch screen ,
C: which is uh is easy to clean too .
C: One of the great uh advantages of the L_C_D_ screen you just use some or uh another uh cleaning uh uh cl some cleaning stuff .
B: C: And um it should be made of strong plastic
C: and it should be bright .
C: Well
C: I already uh s uh explained some properties of that material
C: and I think
C: uh well
C: we also we almost concluded about that
C: uh this should uh be uh our uh button component .
D: True .
C: So uh
C: uh that's all about uh the buttons .
C: Uh the batteries , uh we also thought about that already ,
C: uh will be chargeable with uh uh an option for a mount station
C: so you can uh put the uh the remote control in a mount station
C: so its charges itself up instead of uh plugging it in or something like that .
C: Questions , ?
D: No no no no no .
B: No . D: Just looking .
C: And they should be long lasting , not uh not be empty uh in about uh two minutes or uh thirty minutes or forty minutes of use .
C: And next step is the chip
C: uh th the component that's uh makes or transmits the signal to the television .
C: Uh there was an option to use s a rather simple chip
C: but I think uh because uh of our uh highly uh requiring uh requirements , there should be an advanced chip in it
B: C: with uh also the ability to uh facilitate speaker speech recognition
C: uh which unfortunately is still in a test phase ,
C: so uh
C: there should be some more uh investigation on that side .
C: Uh my personal preferences uh
C: I also overheard in the last meeting that there shou we should use uh our own business colours .
C: That was correct , wasn't it ?
A: Mm-hmm .
C: Okay .
C: I think they are rather boring for um for use with rubber .
B: A: Well ,
A: business colours I thought it was the the slogan and uh the corporate image ,
A: so yeah , it needs colour ,
C: Okay
C: they should be m sh they should be in mind ,
C: wasn't it ?
A: but I don't think you have to make the entire thing in the corporate colour . C: Okay
C: so it d it doesn't says uh to uh have the slogan ?
A: It must be recognisable .
C: Okay okay .
C: Well
C: that's possible of course .
C: We could make a little R_ and R_ on the top of the machine .
B: You can put the R_ and R_ . C: Uh so
C: they are pretty boring ,
C: I suggest , because just the availability with rubber to make fantastic colours uh and also in a lot of possible colours , so it's possible to make very uh fancy uh remote controls
C: which peopl uh who people
C: in
C: which people will find they're uh interesting .
C: And uh will buy uh them faster when they look at the same old grey or black uh colours .
C: Uh s as I said uh before rubber is uh is impossible to damage severely
C: imp instead of uh
C: of course you can break it when you you when you break it in s for example with a pair of scissors or something like that ,
C: but i if you drop it it's not uh broken uh right away s instead of using uh plastic , hard plastic or uh titanium .
C: And I personally liked uh the single curved uh remote control ,
C: because it yeah it makes sense .
B: C: Okay . Well
C: that's all about my uh my findings .
B: Alright .
A: Okay ,
A: thank you .
D: Mm mm mm . Next .
B: I will go next .
B: C: B: Alright so
C: B: I thought a little bit about the interface . Uh how it should look .
B: And uh uh we uh determined that will not be no buttons , but only an L_C_D_ screen ,
B: so I had to uh look on that .
B: And the design is therefore based on what we just uh uh thought of .
B: Uh first there are some new findings and new technology for speech recognition .
B: And this is that uh um uh uh you you ask you give a question through through the device
B: and it answers you .
B: And they already uh put this in an in a coffee maker .
B: And so that it you say uh good morning , uh coffee maker , and it says t says to you back good morning Joe or what's your name .
C: Mm .
B: This uh and there's an easy way to uh program that
B: uh you say record into the device into the speaker
B: and then you say the question
B: and three seconds later you say the answer
B: and then when you say the question it gives you the answer .
C: Mm .
B: Um perhaps it's useful ,
A: Mm .
B: perhaps for because people um lose the remote ,
C: Mm .
B: they can yell uh remote where are you and calls or something .
C: D: It's true .
B: And perhaps we could uh implement that .
C:  B: And then I have to go out of the presentation
B: because I tried to make some kind of a a idea of how it should look like
C: Oh my God .  B: but I can't draw ,
B: so uh
B: don't make too much of it .
B: I tried to uh the L_C_D_ screen I tried to sort of to draw .
B: I thought uh at least uh the icon for the volume .
B: I don't know if there is an icon for the program ,
B: but
C: Not just a P_ .
B: yeah .
D: P_
D: yeah , just a P_ .
B: So uh
C: .. . B: and then the buttons above and uh below
D: B: the and the and the mute button also recognisable as an icon .
B: Um .
D: Where's where's the button for two ?
B: I forgot that one .
C: D: Okay .
B: I thought I forgot something ,
C: B: but uh .
B: And uh and uh the numbers ,
B: that should be a bit larger
B: I think it's not really on scale and and so forth .
C: Ah .
D: Doesn't matter .
B: Um an options button .
B: And I thought the the button for teletext apar uh apart
B: because it's not really options , I think .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: It's uh options is the settings of the remote and of the T_V_ and that kind of uh thing .
D: No .
C: Yep .
B: So could call it settings or something .
B: But this is a bit uh how I thought it .
B: And uh the L_C_D_ uh somewhere on the remote .
B: Perhaps we could be more curvy the remote perhaps should ,
B: so that it's better in your hand or something uh .
C: Oh okay ,
C: yeah .
B: But uh and and uh a microph microphone for the speech uh recognition if we want to implement that .
B: Uh and then uh if you press the op options button , now we have an example of and then you should get the other options with what what you could do
B: and that you could do with something like this this .
C: Oh yeah , .
B: And uh it's also uh I thought think we discussed uh earlier that uh older people don't really want to use uh these extra settings .
B: And older people a also don't really want to use this uh th this kind of option menus .
B: So they want to u use one button and then something happens ,
B: and not choose with uh this kind of uh B: And you could put in a an a really s little scrolling device on the side of your uh remote ,
A: Mm-hmm .
B: so you could scroll scroll uh across these uh things .
C: Mm .
C: Okay .
B: That's an option .
B: And that was my uh finding
B: dinge .
A: Thanks .
B: Yeah .
D: Okay . A: Now our third
C: Go Danny , go Danny . A: team member with his presentation .
B: C: D: D: Okay ,
D: I'm going to tell you something about a trend watching . The trends from the past years , what the people like , what the youngsters like , what the elderly people liked about shapes , colours , material and stuff .
D: 'Kay .
D: The method I used was D: Like I told I watched the trends from the past years about colours , shapes , material they wanted uh from elderly and young people .
D: So we can keep that in mind for designing f uh the device itself .
D: Findings I made .
D: The most important thing people liked last year was that the remote control should be look look fancy .
D: The second important thing that w should be if inv in innov innovative ,
D: okay ,
D: like the L_C_D_ screen that's quite innovative
D: so that should be great meeting for this .
D: And the third thing is it should be easy to use .
D: I think with only one menu , four button , channel , volume , it should also be enough for easy to use .
D: The personal preferences for the young people , they liked fruity colours like uh banana yellow , uh strawberry red and stuff .
C: Fruity ? B: Grass green .
C: Fruity . D: Yeah . Like that .
D: The round shapes , and soft material m materials like the rubber .
C: Mm . Okay .
D: It should be soft uh i it should feeling spongy or s Sponge Bob like things .
B: Let's build it into a sponge .
C:   D: Th
D: Elderly people like au colours which y are being seen in autumn like um woods um dark brown , red , deep reds and stuff .
D: They liked square shapes with round edges .
D: And hard materials like wood , um titanium .
D: They
D: those kind of materials they liked .
D: This is a bit like the young peoples like the fruity colours , innovative , all the colours you see , the blue , the red , the white , the yellow , that stuff .
D: And then I th I I personally thought the front side of the shape should be something for the youngsters like like
A: Oh
A: y D: this or something .
D: It's it's a bit like a banana .
D: And the colour should be yellow , or something .
C: D: And for the elderly people just plain old .
D: Because we decided to have two kind of remotes , two designs ,
D: or was it two colours ?
B: It was one remote , I think ,
D: Different colours , yeah .
B: different colours .
D: We should decide whether it's going to be with round shapes .
D: I think like my colleague , you said , is that's e better , or for the elderly people something like like the iPod or something , with round squares .
D: Simple but
B: D: easy to use .
C: Mm .
D: So that's it .
C: Okay .
A: So for the older people , a more traditional uh form .
D: That is my D: Yeah ,
D: like the older o older colours I can maybe B: You could you could uh change the colours , that was also the idea .
B: I don't know which shape you should should take ,
D: Yeah .
D: Colours th the elderly people B: but .
A: Yeah ,
A: I guess changing colours will be easier than changing uh
B: Yeah .
C: Changing just the shape of the uh remote control ?
A: the shape of it .
B: Perhaps you could find something in the middle .
C: Yeah ,
B: Round but square . C: s
C: round corners , but s but square , yeah .
A: B: Yeah .
A: But maybe then both groups won't buy it .
C: Yeah .
B: Uh i i if you do it uh uh square , with round corners but a little uh in the middle of it uh
A: B: i
B: Do you know what I mean ?
C: Yeah I know what you mean ,
C: kind of like a . B: wait ,
B: like like this uh a bit .
C: Yeah .
B: So it's a bit square , but it's also a bit uh round .
C: Kinda like a beer glass . Yeah .
B: So
B: but then C: I know what you mean .
B: Same sides . C: It's also easy to to have to to put in your hand .
B: But that's uh B: Yeah
B: but that's also how other remotes are shaped ,
B: so that's uh C: Yeah .
B: But perhaps that's a good thing ,
B: so that's easy to use .
B: People know the C: Will recognise that's as a remote control .
B: Yeah .
D: Uh Look something like that . Autumn colours like red , brown .
C: Uh when I saw your d
C: Oh .
D: They liked the wood a lot .
C: Huh .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: So maybe we could give it like wooden loo look look or something in that colour .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah ,
C: kinda like old cars , uh D: And a bit bit old school style renaissance , medieval kind of things .
B: Yeah . C: B: C: Let's put it all together .
B: Swords . D: Those kind of D: Yeah , those kind of things .
D: So you see the big difference
D: between the young people ? Fresh , exciting .
B: Yeah .
D: And the old people , old and boring .
C: B: But that's easily to do with the colour , I think .
A: D: So D: Sorry ?
B: That's easy to do with the colours , I think .
D: Yeah
D: I think it's it's easier to do in colour than in shape .
B: Yeah .
C: Uh .
D: Because otherwise we have to get different shapes ,
A: Yeah we think so too .
D: and colour way easier than yeah the shapes .
D: In material yeah rubber , rubber is ,
D: like I said , young people like more soft materials and spongy ones
C: D: and the old people like plain wood .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: So we have to decide if we're going to use
D: real hard rubber , or soft rubber . Or something something between that .
B: Yeah
B: think uh C: Soft rubber .
B: Also in between . D: Yeah soft rubber
C: D: which you can you can feel in it .
C: Yeah I know what you Um .
B: I don't think you should be able to mould it ,
D: Or B: but  D: No .
D: Or or wh
C: It should shouldn't be .
D: what's something harder .
D: No no no
D: but but you have to
D: like like like a a eraser or something . That's the bit you can press it in ,
B: Yeah .
D: or something harder .
C: Uh .
B: Bit like this kind of rubber .
B: This uh D: Yeah , something like this , yeah .
B: But it's quite hard , this .
D: Yeah it's quite hard
D: but you can press it in .
B: Yeah .
D: It's feels kind s spongy .
B: C: Spongy .
A: Hmm .
D: Something . B: I don't think it's rubber .
D: No .
D: N n n
A: So we need a spongy feeling . B: Uh did you have something about uh D: Are you going to invite Sponge Bob , maybe he can C: Yeah .
A: B: So we should first decide about shape , I think .
C: Ding ding .
D: Yeah I think that's the better thing to do . B: Which uh B: Then you can fit the L_C_D_ screen in it ,
D: B: and can decide uh .
C: Um I also s uh can't help but notice that you uh used an you had a remote control B: C: and the L_C_D_ screen was uh rather small . Um .
D: Yeah
D: w I think that L_C_D_ screen should be like B: Yeah
B: it it's supposed to be bit s bit s bit
C: .. .
C: This was your size ,
B: Yeah .
C: but I think it should be larger .
D: Yeah
D: three quarter of the of the C: Yeah , three quarters .
C: So uh so you don't have to put your  oh .
D: Yeah
D: the buttons won't get that small when the L_C_D_ screen is C: Uh new , blank .
C: So uh
C: when you get this uh B: D: B: Ooh C: Uh kinda like this .
D: Mm-hmm .
C: Or should it be larger ?
B: Yeah .
D: Larger I think .
C: Larger ?
C: Because you want to put your hands B: But if you pu
D: Yeah
D: becau because you have B: Now you can put your hand there and then you won't touch the screen .
C: You want
C: Yeah .
B: Perhaps that's best .
D: Yeah okay , true , true , true true .
C: Your thumb here .
B: But not on the screen because  C: Yeah .
B: Yeah
B: that's uh that's an idea .
D: Yeah .
B: Looks a bit like a Game Boy now . C: Because when you put your f
C: Yeah
C: but if yo if you make the the L_C_D_ screen as large as the remote control itself , uh you'll you'll always get some C: You B: You always touch it ,
D: Yeah yeah yeah yeah .
C: Yeah .
B: yeah .
C: Going to be very greasy and stuff .
D: But it won't get that small
D: because you have how much ? Nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen buttons on the screen .
B: Yeah .
D: One to zero , the two digit , C: Yeah you don't want it too small .
C: How yeah how large D: You have to you have to D: Because some fat people with d thick fingers will press three buttons at same time .
C: Yeah they have thick fingers .
C: But if you wanna make it in international ,
C: Japanese uh people got uh rather small hands
D: Yeah true ,
D: but C: and we got these large  D: Yeah ,
D: we have we have the zoom option ,
D: right ?
C: Zoom opt Ah yeah of course ,
C: yeah .
C: You can make it larger to to uh to uh with accompanying uh greater fields to push the button .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: And we won't include a a pen , or something to point ,
D: No .
A: hey ,
A: we we want to do it with our fingers ,
D: Yeah .
A: right ?
C: Your fingers , yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: You don't want uh A: Yeah .
B: Y you could include a pen
C: Because if you lose the pen uh if you lose the pen uh you can't use