C: Yeah . Six ?
B: Okay , so we give that a six ,
B: yeah .
B: Okay , F_ .
D: Yeah ,  it does have yeah .
A: Absolutely .
C: Voice control have
C: seven .
B: Hang on ,
B: how come it's showing up with the things there but it only had bullet points there ?
B: That's just C: Ah , that's the second one .
C: So you must have changed it on this one where it's got score ,
C: but not on the previous slide .
B: Oh okay , cool .
B: Um right , so .
A: So it has voice control .
B: Yes ,
B: so that's a seven then .
A: Yep .
B: Um , cool .
C: G_ technologically innovative .
A: A: Anyway it ha yeah ,
D: Technologi well A: it's the most sophisticated remote that I ever seen . C: But in terms of the actual technology , none of it is actually new .
B: D: Yeah .
D: Well mm we have we have the sample speaker as well , which is yeah , it's kind of new .
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah , but I mean you don't C: All of the components have been used in other things before .
D: But at the same time they are all they are all relatively new .
A: Yeah , but they've been brought together in a remote .
B: They're never been used i they've never been using remote remote control before I don't think .
C: But do C: yeah , yeah .
C: Yeah .
B: .
C: What do you reckon , five , six ?
B: Yeah ,
B: what do you all think ?
D: Six .
B: Six ?
A: Yeah .
D: I mean how how far can you go with a remote control , really ?
C: Yeah .
B: Well , that's it , I mean D: It still has to do what i what it has to do .
A: A: B: Yeah , but I mean everything has been used in space before it gets to anyone else really , hasn't it ?
C: B: So , I don't think many peop
C: Space remote .
A: D: B: That's it , they can take it with them .
C: Put fashion in electronics .
A: Absolutely . D: Yeah , isn't it fashionable ?
C: D: Yeah , sure .
A: The carrot banana remote . D: It's the maximum fashion .
C: B: So , we give it seven ,
D: Fruit fruit and vegetables are fashionable these days , so .
B: and we write C: A: B: There we go .
D: So I think we've done very well ,
A: I think that's a .
D: but B: Cool .
C: Very good .
D: What's the assessment ?
A: Yeah .
B: So , we need the average here ,
B: so we got D: The average is about six and something .
C: Yeah , one .
D: A little bit over six .
B: Seven C: Or a seven .
A: There are how many sixes ?
D: No , wait ,
B: So we've got four sevens ,
A: One , two , three .
D: a little bit under six .
B: so that's twenty eight ,
D: No , wait .
A: Three .
B: three sixes ,
A: And one five .
B: eighteen .
D: Oh , three sixes , okay , yeah .
C: Fifty one , one , two , three , four , five , six , seven , eight .
A: Okay , twenty eight , thirty eight , fo forty six . Forty six and five , fifty one .
C: Six point point A: Fifty one divided by D: Six point something , yeah .
B: Two three four Seven eight .
C: about six point five .
D: Six point five , yeah .
C: Close enough .
B: Okay ,
B: that's pretty good , I think .
B: C: Now wait until we get to finance and then we'll see if we can afford it .
B: C: That's all you've got at the moment ,
C: or did you have anything more ?
B: Um no , that's it ,
C: That's it ?
B: yeah .
C: Alright .
C: So , finance .
C: And we'll see if we can unscrew this first .
A: B: Cool , there we go .
C: Sorry ,
C: this is I'm just um B: .
B: There we go and there are the marks .
C: Beautiful .
D: Yeah .
C: Not anymore .
B: D: C: Computer no signal ?
A: Mm I guess it'll have to wait for a bit .
C: Adjusting .
C: There we go .
C: Okay ,
C: so we've looked at the prototype presentation and the evaluation criteria .
C: And now we have to calculate the production costs .
C: So I've got an Excel spreadsheet to help us do that .
C: Can you read that ?
C: Almost .
A: C: More or less .
C: Um I started filling it in ,
C: but of course these are provisional , so we have to go down .
C: No hand dynamo , right ?
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: One simple battery .
A: Mm .
C: No kinetic energy ,
C: no solar .
C: The chip , we're going for an advanced chip on print .
A: Advanced , yeah .
C: We also said the sample sensor and sample speaker .
D: Yep .
C: Um single-curved surface , so that we can fold it .
D: Yeah , yes .
C: Case material we said rubber .
D: Rubber .
A: Yep .
C: I don't know what special colour means .
A: Mm anything uh I think which is not more .
C: D: I think something coloured ,
D: yeah , probably .
D: So I think this is probably special co no ?
C: It could be A: Yeah .
B: Yeah ,
B: but rubber comes coloured , doesn't it ? You know .
C: Rub rubber comes coloured ,
D: Yeah .
C: it's I would C: maybe it's like if you want titanium coloured or wood coloured , it's different .
D: Or maybe maybe if you want some kind of pattern thing on it ,
C: Yeah ,
D: yeah yeah , okay .
C: let's leave it as zero , 'cause it's easy . D: Yeah .
B: Yeah ,
B: you might end up having to take off the sample sensor .
C: We we're definitely going to have to D: We have pushbuttons ,
C: so we've got pushbutton ,
A: Mm .
C: and then we've
D: scro we have scroll wheel as well .
C: Scroll wheel with pushbutton we had , no ?
D: S yeah , yeah ,
A: No uh we we have uh yeah .
D: we had , for muting , yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: And we have L_C_ display
D: and yeah .
C: And button supplements .
D: Um A: Mm no .
B: .
B: No .
A: We don't have C: No . No ?
A: we're not using any of that .
D: Yeah , but what do we ha we have L_C_ display , but but the wh but the s spinning wheel C: But the the spinning wheel's not there .
C: I have think maybe it's integrated with the L_C_ display ?
D: Yeah .
D: Okay , let's yeah .
B: We've got more than one pushbutton though ,
C: B: haven't we ?
C: I think the pushbutton C: oh .
B: 'Cause then you have C: I don't know if that's one B: That means you can only have twenty five push buttons in total doesn't it ?
B: Not counting anything , we'd still be in budget .
C: Yeah .
C: That seems unlikely .
C: Push what uh
A: Huh ?
A: Wh wh what is the limit ? Uh .
B: Twelve point five .
C: whether whether pushbutton means that p count by button or do we D: We have to count all of them ,
D: or yeah .
A: Mm I don't think so , no .
C: I don't think that makes sense .
B: No .
B: Well it doesn't , but it uh A: No it says what what is the kind of interface ,
C: No .
A: if it is pushbutton then you got a zero point five ,
A: it's a scroll wheel so we we've put it's pushbutton and scroll wheel and L_C_D_ display ,
C: Yeah .
B: And L_C_ display .
C: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
A: so that's that's the three kind of interfaces that we have .
C: Yeah .
C: So , as we can see , that's way too expensive down here .
A: Wh wh what's our criteria ?
B: This sample sensor .
C: Our budget's twelve point five .
A: Uh okay .
B: Yeah , the sample sensor will have to go ,
B: 'cause that's the most expensive thing on there .
C: Yeah ,
C: so that has implications though for the .
A: Uh it does not have for voice recognition ,
A: but it does have for the feedback speaker .
A: when you say when you press one it says one or it says hello .
B: Yeah .
C: For the locator .
B: But that's a bit of a gimmick anyway really , isn't it ?
C: Yeah .
A: Mm and the locator also goes away .
B: We can afford to get rid of it .
D: But it was very no innovative
C: Yeah .
B: So that means no locator , does it ?
D: innovativeness . Well um yeah .
B: I mean does C: What else does it need ?
D: Well the speaker uh the sample speaker is is expensive ,
D: but we could just have some some very very easy device that just beeps .
C: Yeah ,
C: 'cause the sample speaker was , I think , more complicated then just a beeping thing .
D: This would be D: Yeah , yeah yeah B: Yeah .
D: there you record your samples your speech samples and B: Yeah .
C: Yeah , okay , so we A: A also i in the case I'm not sure that you will evaluate this as a curved surface ,
A: because it's just rubber , so it's probably a flat surface rubber .
A: Uh I mean uh um yeah .
C: Uh-huh .
B: Okay , yeah .
C: Right , so we need one fifty off .
A: Um B: See , I was gonna say the scroll wheel pushbutton thing ,
B: 'cause C: Take it down to just a scroll wheel .
C: We could do A: So tha that mean that we cannot press D: Yeah , then then we would be in the b budget .
A: how do we how do we make a selection in uh in the L_C_D_ ?
A: If A: in the L_C_D_ we can scroll , right ?
A: But how do we make a selection if we d cannot push the button .
D: Yeah b
D: no no ,
D: you can push this one ,
D: but we don't have a pushbutton uh we ca we don't have this muting mechanism for this scrolling thing .
B: But that's well you would just have to to spin it down .
C: Yeah .
C: You can have to scroll it straight r roll it straight down for for mute .
D: Mm-hmm .
B: So that's point three .
A: No w w w but ha
A: it's it's the scroll wheel
A: and I thought we were referring to this as a scroll spinning wheel and pushbutton thing .
D: But I mean we can put an additional mute button on the top as well .
D: If you B: Yeah ,
B: I mean that wouldn't actually cost any more .
B: That's the spin wheel though , isn't it ?
B: Didn't that come with the L_C_ C: That's with the L_C_
A: That comes with the L_C_D_ ?
B: Yeah .
C: We decided ,
C: 'cause it's not on our list .
B: Yeah .
A: Oh so so the the this is D: Mm .
C: The scroll wheel is on the side .
A: . So A: we're adding costs for right , okay
A: uh I mean I think this is good .
D: So B: S so we're point three over .
C: We're point three over at the moment .
C: It's nothing n
B: Unless we just take off the scroll wheel altogether
B: and just have pushbuttons for the volume .
B: Could b still put them on the side .
B: But yeah .
C: Yeah ,
B: I mean the scroll wheel's pretty cool , but C: I have A: Instead of scrolling here we have two buttons here , up for up and down .
B: Yeah .
D: Mm-hmm .
B: Yeah .
A: On the side .
C: Yeah .
A: Mm uh it sounds good actually , yeah .
D: Okay , yeah .
C: Rather than having three different things that people have to do .
A:  .
D: Okay .
C: There we go .
C: Oh look , we're way under budget
C: and we'll make huge profits
C: and we'll all get bonuses .
B: Yeah , well we could admit to the single curve , couldn't we ? A: C: Or or that we have to have some sort of special colour .
B: Yeah , but  C: So that's alright .
C: We we'll leave it at that B: Yeah .
C: and then I'll take I can send it back to management
C: and say we weren't quite sure about the colour ,
C: if that costs extra then we've still got some space for it ,
A: We have , yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: Excellent .
C: Alright .
C: So did we lose um on our evaluation criteria , as a result of doing that ?
B: No .
B: No , I don't think so .
A: Not really , no .
A: Because we keep all the features ,
A: we keep voice recognition ,
A: we keep L_C_D_ display .
C: Mm .
B: Yeah .
A: We C: Yeah .
A: instead of having scrolling we we just push the buttons .
B: We just got rid of a gimmick that was never anyway ,
C: Yeah .
A: Um yeah .
B: and the scroll wheel is I mean essentially the two buttons that was B: it's not a great difference I don't think .
C: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: Alright then .
A: But we lose the locator .
D: Well we're going to have a beeping thing .
B: Really ?
C: We're gonna have a beep .
A: So instead of speaker , .
D: But yeah , it's it's not like sample speaker , but it will just beep ,
C: Yeah .
D: so we still have the locate .
C: Yeah .
A: 'Kay . B: Cool .
B: That's not a very exciting colour .
B: I think you should make it more vegetable-like . A: C: Tha
D: Which colour ,
D: the the colour of the phone or the colour of the A: B: Oh the the beeper thing .
C: .
D: But it can be yellow as well .
B: It D: It can come in the same colour as the the case .
C: 'Cause we we won't have run out of our pot of Play-Doh .
A: B: Yeah , I think Jen wants it to vibrate .
D: A: C: Yeah , I know I know , my pen vibrates .
B: You know , your pen vibrates ?
A: B: Yeah . C: But only for a very short time .
C: Um
C: okay .
C: So
C: looks like we've designed a banana .
B: A: D: C: Well done , team .
C: Um we need C: we've just got about ten minutes or so left of the meeting ,
C: so it would be good if we could just have a little talk about the project itself and how it went ,
C: um so that we can feed back to the management for next time they're designing a product .
A: I think it mm B: Cool .
C: Feedback ?
C: Ideas ?
D: Yeah mm ,
D: as far as creativity is concerned , yeah I think there was there was room for creativity .
D: The only the only problem being that at the end we had to cut some things down because of the the budget we had .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: A: I think uh n one thing that was lacking uh was that we did not know what the various things cost to begin with .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: Yeah .
A: Um we kap kept a adding things randomly .
C: Yeah .
A: So , had we known B: If we'd had that sheet at the beginning should've been like , okay , so we can have that lot , let's just throw it together and do what we can .
A: Yeah , that or not , yeah .
C: Mm-hmm .
D: Yeah , yeah , yeah .
A: Yeah .
A: So d all the random decisions at the end could have been prevented .
B: Yeah .
A: Mm . C: But in terms of the process of um going and working individually and then coming back to a meeting , that that worked in terms of .
A: Yeah , mm .
B: I think 'cause the meetings were so regular , you know .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: It wasn't like we were alone for very long ,
B: so you didn't st go off and think , wouldn't it be great to have a vibrating remote control shaped like a banana ,
C: Mm-hmm .
A: D: C: Banana . A: B: and then , you know , come back three days later and Jen's going look , look , it vibrates and it looks like a banana .
A: C: D: Yeah . B: Um yeah , so yeah .
D: Yeah , the m the means were very very good , the means we used .
C: Mm-hmm ,
C: the whiteboard digital pens .
D: And the pens . B: Uh I like the pens .
C: We like the pens . B: I want one .
B: That would just be so cool , to d do all your notes and s
C: Yeah ,
C: you could take it to lectures
C: and just write stuff down
A: Yeah yeah yeah ,
C: and have it printed out when you got back to the office .
D: Yeah , yeah .
A: that's it's it's C: They great ?
A: I wonder what one of these costs . C: Do you think they'd notice if one went ?
D: B: I don't think you should say that was the recording .
C: Oh okay .
B: Okay , cover up the microphone .
B: Alright , let's take it . C: Yep . Shh . A: D: C: Yep .
B: Okay .
C: But that worked well having having a whiteboard that we could draw on as well as having the PowerPoint ,
C: 'cause the I find that the problem with PowerPoint often is that it's so static
C: and you can't change it once you're in there ,
B: It is a bit limiting , isn't it ?
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: yep .
D: Yeah , and and and this time also the time limits but actually preparing the  B: Yeah .
B: The thing flew in ,
C: Mm-hmm .
B: you didn't have the whole whooshing thing ,
D: Yeah .
B: 'cause there wasn't time for that , so yeah .
C: Yeah .
C: That's alright , that always irritates me anyway , yeah .
B: Not that you can do that on the board , either .
B: We could make some little D: But yeah , but I mean already just just preparing the slides before before the meeting , yeah .
B: Yeah , totally ,
B: I mean that was fairly tight anyway ,
C: Mm .
B: I mean especially with that last-minute alteration .
D: Yeah . C: Yeah .
A: Mm yeah . B: back it , this is just had to be changed
D: B: . And yeah , so cool .
C: Yeah .
B: Are we supposed to say nice things about Jen now ?
C: And presumably you don't A: C: you can say nasty things as well .
B: D: Yeah .
D: I was I was satisfied with with the leadership , yeah .
C: I have no stake in it .
B: Yeah , definitely .
A: Yeah .
B: You weren't like a a dictating leader , so that was always good .
C: You have to say that ,
C: 'cause I'm taking the notes .
A: D: Mm-hmm .
C: I'll leave the room and you can have another go .
B: I know you've got the pen ,
B: you might attack me with it . C: Better than that than the banana .
D: And then the teamwork I think I think it worked quite quite nicely , yeah .
C: I think it worked quite well .
A: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: Did anyone feel that they were getting sort of covered up and not being able to say their bit ?
D: To express them mm mm
A: Mm . I guess it was a fairly small group ,
D: no .
A: so all of us got to express our opinions , yeah .
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: .
C: New ideas found .
C: Not quite sure what about .
D: Well it's it's it's pretty new ,
C: Yeah . D: pretty novel solution for a for a remote control really , all this flipping open thing and A: Mm .
C: Yeah .
B: I don't know ,
B: I don't go shopping for remote controls that often ,
D: Yeah , neither neither do I ,
B: maybe somebody's already though of it .
D: but I've never seen anything
C: D: and and none of my examples were was was like this , actually , so .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: Yeah .
A: Hmm .
B: Yeah .
B: I'll be looking out next time I need to write an essay .
C: Yeah , that's right . B: That looks boring , I'll see if anyone's made a remote control .
A: D: Yeah maybe w maybe we could have a patent on this one .
C: C: