A: Yeah .
A: But it's too .
C: Yeah .
D: Yeah , that does make sense , yeah ?
A: It's um robust , yeah .
C: Useful ?
D: Useful . D: Well , so the question is does it have uh the minimum requirement of re remote control ?
C: Yeah ,  D: So I don't know .
D: These buttons are uh It not clear .
A: Oh , yeah , lets me try .
D: But you have at least uh next produce .
A: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
A: What is uh next , please ?
C: Yeah , channel .
C: I this is volume control and channel changes .
D: Uh , it depends on the C: These are the main D: Okay .
A: And you can uh do di two sites ?
C: You C: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: Yeah , and you can do on L_C_D_ using these going to scrolling all the option .
A: Okay , also .
D: So but , for instance , because the L_C_D_ is not uh touch control , touch screen , you cannot go to channel twenty five directly .
C: So if you don't want C: Yeah , um yeah .
A: You can , by using the C: Yeah .
B: You can .
D: Directly .
B: You go you B: So , the basic mode A: You c push here the the B: Yeah .
A: yeah . B: So that's simple .
B: The basic mode is uh you got just two buttons and a jog dial .
D: Yeah .
B: With two buttons , you do this like uh volume up , volume down .
D: Oh , it's a jog dial , okay .
D: Uh-huh .
C: And channel .
B: Or if you go to the site , it's channel up channel down .
D: Okay .
B: And if you want to make to s twenty-five , you push on this .
D: Yeah .
C: You can select .
B: You select twenty , you select five .
D: Okay .
B: That's it .
C: Yeah mm .
D: It's much longer than that that being two two five , no ?
B: No .
D: Don't you think so ?
D: May not okay , we can go . That's uh You're right .
C: Yeah , yeah , yeah .
C: Y you need to like press two and five and Yeah .
D: That's it's less uh Yeah .
D: But it's it's nice , because people anyway don't go there .
D: But C: Yeah , yeah . Yeah mm .
D: So what do you think for it , usefulness ?
C: So , d Yeah , we need to address we want D: Seems to be useful . C: we only address two main functions here
C: and the other functions will be on L_C_D_ . So
A: Let me understand well ,
C: so A: because I'm not sure A: that's for that this one are b d uh two dir directional button .
D: Both .
D: Yeah . Yeah .
B: Yeah . Yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: Up down or left right . Yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: Yeah . Up .
A: Yeah . And which what is that ?
D: That B: It's a jog dial for controlling the cursor on the L_C_D_ screen .
C: This is jog wheel .
A: Okay , okay . It's a kind Oh , okay okay . C: Yeah . Um , B: Like , selecting the menus .
C: see in L_C_D_ , like you will have blocks and you select which one .
D: Cool .
A: Oh oh okay , great .
D: I would say then uh  A: Now it's looks us useful .
D: Two or three ?
C: Yeah . Yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: Two or three ?
C: Two , maybe . D: Two .
A: Yeah .
D: Okay , two . D: So size and weight .
C: Yeah , yeah . D: Is it the the the effective size and weight that the D: Is it uh real size , real weight ?
D: Or Because it C: Yeah , it's size al almost  D: Size is going to be that , yeah ?
C: Yeah ,
C: because it is D: Uh , and and C: The weight will be bit lighter .
C: We will s We use titanium .
B: Sure ,
B: without titanium alloy , it's going to be light .
A: Mm-mm .
C: Yeah .
C: Yeah . Yeah .
D: It's going to be lighter ,
A: D: because this seems to be very heavy f I mean ,
B: Of course .
C: Heavy . Yeah .
D: for my daughter , for instance .
A: Mm-hmm .
C: Yeah .
A:  D: Not sure if uh she can use it . C: But sides uh , the sides should be okay . . Yeah
D: So , should be okay .
C: mm .
D: Up to three for that ,
A: Mm-mm .
D: because I'm haven't seen the weight so I must not uh B: Okay . Okay .
C: Oh .
A: D: Colour and shape .
A: Uh-oh . D: Well ,
D: so colour , it seems that we have the several colours for the L_C_D_ .
C: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: But um , it's not very clear what is the colour of the sh the sh the case .
A: Yeah .
C: The case is silver titanium , no ?
D: It's a it's going to be titanium . Okay , okay .
A: Yeah , it's .
C: Yeah .
D: That's nice .
A: Let's imagine .
D: I think it's good . Okay .
A: And what about the strawberries on the top ?
A: I'm not convince .
D: Yahoo . A: But maybe I'm not trendy . But , uh D: Well y you know , it's this uh fruit and vegetable year .
C: Oh . Yeah , yeah . Yeah .
A: Yeah , but uh uh they're not useful .
D: So  C: So maybe , I think A: I I mean it that's uh D: Uh , I think usefulness is m as as
D: I rem um just have to remind you that usefulness is much less important than fanciness .
A: Mm-hmm .
C: Yeah .
A: Yep .
C: Yeah , well D: Whether it's fancy or not now , it we have to decide .
C: Yeah . Um A: Hmm .
D: But this
A: I would have m uh i found more fancy that the fruits are useful .
D: If it's D: Uh-huh .
D: So , that they will that maybe the fruit may be here instead . A: Yeah .
C: Yeah , well then it's bit difficult to use .
C: Not like this d
C: We're just giving the fruit for more fanciness and more attraction , too .
A: Mm-hmm .
A: But the n A: Yeah .
C: So , maybe think we can have rubber or some sponges , stuff for strawberries and different colours .
A: Mm .
C: So it's D: So , it seems we are not so clear on the shape uh C: Even A: No ,
C: These buttons A: I'm not sure uh why A: uh if it was like this C: But it looks really not really good .
A: I It's n C: I mean , the f
A: no ,
A: it's not fancy any more .
C: Yeah .
C: So these are kind of rubber things .
C: Even if you lose one you can just put whatever .
A: Okay .
B: And C: Even we can provide many different colours or different fruits , and A: Uh-huh .
A: And different routes . Okay , I see what B: Moreover , moreover
B: it covers it covers all the end goals .
C: Yeah .
B: Even if it is , you know , it's very rounded ,
B: but still you got some rubber fruit here ,
B: and it's completely uh completely secure to leave it uh with children and that .
C: Yeah .
A: Okay , so you you you feel like it's something uh a protection for the remote control .
C: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah .
C: Yeah , we've yeah
C: we have sensors here and so here and here ,
C: so we just A: Also .
C: Yeah ,
C: so even if you don't put , it works .
C: But this is really fancy . A: Okay .
D: I suggested three .
A: Okay . D: Because uh , everybody s doesn't seem to be convince ,
D: although it's quite B: Okay . Okay .
D: You have good arguments .
C: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: But A: Okay .  D: And uh the last one is adaptive .
D: This is not r maybe not as important as the other one , C: Yeah .
D: but uh can we adapt it to each each personal use ?
B: Sure , sure , just look at it .
D: Great .
B: It's full adaptable . A: Wow , that's a  D: Fully adaptable .
B: Yeah , you can fit it into your palm , you know .
D: That's D: Yeah . D: So you can fit into your palm , okay .
A: Yea
D: That C: Yeah . D: What else can we need ?
C: You can D: You Do you think you are gonna be able to do that with ti titanium as well ?
C: Yeah . A: Yeah , it's fudge titanium . You know .
D: It's fudge , yeah , yeah .
A: Right , yeah . And uh  B: Mm ,  D: Yeah , fruit titanium , yeah .
D: Well , I if if this is D: if you are ready to do that , then I think it deserves a one . C: Yeah . A: Okay . Let's go for one . D: Okay .
C: Yeah .
D: Now we have to do the average . C: Three , three , six , eight , eleven .
D: Who is good in math ? B: It's two point one seven .
D: Okay . D: Two point one seven .
D: That's nice .
D: Two point one seven out of seven .
C: Hmm .
D: I think we have a good good thing .
A: Yeah .
D: Well , that's all I had to say about the evaluation .
D: So A: So it's a good evaluation .
D: It seems to be good , yeah .
A: Yeah . Mm .
C: Yeah mm .
D: We have uh C: Yeah , two one one seven , we have . So D: Yeah .
A: Mm-mm .
D: Yeah .
D: Okay . Thanks .
A: Okay .
A: So now , it has to fulfil the financial criterium ?
D: C: Financi
D: Ah-ha .
A: So , I have an Here . Um D:  C: Energy .
D: So so how many batteries do we need ?
C: Uh , we use bat
C: One battery .
D: One battery ?
C: Yep .
A: Okay ,
A: so two .
D: Good .
D: Why two ?
C: Oh , we just need one , I guess .
D: Say no .
D: No , ne never install .
A: Uh-huh . D: Two batteries or one ?
A: Oh .
C: No , number is one .
C: We need only one battery .
D: Only one .
A: Yeah yeah ,
A: but the price is two .
D: No , no . But no , no . No , no way .
A: Oh , number .
B: No ,
B: uh you just A: Sorry sorry sorry . I'm sorry .
C: Number , number .
B: Number . Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah . Yeah . Oh .
D: You never use uh Excel ? A: No , never . D: Good . B: How B: What what's the limit ? A: H D: It's twelve bucks .
B: Uh , it's it's okay that I don't know ,
B: 'cause uh it's not my field .
B: Twelve bucks .
D: Twelve bucks .
B: Okay ,
D: Twelve and a half , I think .
B: now Mm-hmm .
C: So we B: Check that number also . D: Okay .
D: Okay , electronics .
C: We have sample chip .
D: So C: Uh ,
C: like simple chip , yeah .
D: It's a simple chip ?
D: Simple chip , okay .
C: So , yeah .
D: One .
C: Yeah .
C: Four buttons at least .
D: Okay .
A: Okay . C: And then we have the t sample speaker sensor for speech recognition . A: And for the A: One also .
D: One or two ?
C: Yeah , one
C: to one .
D: One ?
C: Yeah , one .
D: Okay .
D: So the case , which one uh is it in the end ?
C: Yeah , I think we will go for a single curve ,
C: no ?
D: Let's do a single curve .
C: Oh , is  B: It's it's flat .
D: It's flat , and curved .
C: Oh . Oh , okay .
A: I thought you can curve
B: It's flat .
A:  somebody . B: But it is flat ,
D: It's curvable . B: you Look .
B: It's curvable ,
B: but it's not curved . D: Maybe there is a supplement for that ,
D: no ?
A: Mm-hmm .
D: It's only curve ?
D: Okay , let's go .
A: Oh see , I I think that the the price is this one .
C: Yeah . D: This D: Okay ,
D: you d A: Yeah , yeah .
A: Don't chip on me .
D: We tried , we tried .
A:   C: Oh .
B: Oh , okay .
D: So , what is it ?
C: Titanium .
D: T titanium ?
A: Mm-hmm .
B: Mm .
D: Mm , that's expensive .
A: Mm-mm .
D: Mm-hmm .
B: Mm .
A: Yeah . A: But she wanted u the fudge titanium .
D: Okay . C: Yeah , well D: Let's stick to s titan .
A: I think it's five ,
A: but  you don't say . D: Special colour ?
D: No because uh B: Well , n Why three ?
C: No , only one , no ?
A: Mm .
B: Why three ?
A: Oh , sorry . Again ,
D: Yeah . C: Um A: I'm   See it .
A: Special colour ,
C: Interface .
D: Oh .
A: or it's only on the C: Yes , in L_C_D_ display .
C: Ok
A: Yeah , but there is no colour here .
C: Yeah , an Yeah .
A: So I put it here .
C: Push-button .
D: So the L_C_D_ A: How many push-button ?
C: Scro
A: Three or two ?
C: Uh , two .
D: Two .
A: Is there A: The scroll-wheel , okay .
C: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: D: It's going to be expensive .
C: One scroll wheel .
D:  C: One L_C_D_ displayed .
A: Okay .
A: Um A: That's that's not D: That's all ?
D: No .
C: Yeah .
A: We choose this one , and not this one .
D: Oh , I think , no it's D: Uh , is it a scroll wheel and pe push button , th this centre one ?
C: Yeah , it's cheaper .
A: Or only a scroll-wheel .
C: Yeah .
D: Or only only scroll wheel , okay .
C: Only scroll wheel .
C: Yeah mm .
C: So D: You are trying to make make up  make us up .
A: You try to s A: No , no , no .
C: It's already A: Because how do you do to y select ?
C: Ah .
D: No , but you select with the two d the other two buttons ,
C: Y ye
A: Yeah , I mean you you go on the location with your scroll wheel
D: no ?
D: That's true .
D: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
A: and then you C: Then it automatically we can just do like you feel , it goes . And it will activate D: Yeah .
A: Stay longer . Okay .
D: It should stay . Yeah .
C: Um , plus , yeah , it's price is really  A: Oops . A: Okay , okay .
A: Um C: Special colours , yeah .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: For buttons .
C: Okay .
C: Yeah , buttons and strawberries .
B: No ,
B: buttons just normal .
C: Yeah .
C: Special form .
A: You you have all of these , no ?
D: She's very hard on this . A: Mm maybe n not this one but D: Special colour ?
D: Yeah .
D: No .
D: Special material ?
C: Uh , we have titan
B: That's for buttons .
B: But buttons are standard .
D: Yeah ,
D: buttons are the standard buttons .
D: Yeah .
D: It's only buttons , these .
A: Yeah ,
A: so D: Nothing special .
C: Yeah .
D: Okay .
D: So we are at seventeen dot eight .
A: Not special colours an interest in ?
D: No , the colour is in the L_C_D_ .
A: And buttons are not colourised ?
A: They are m
D: I no .
C: Mm , hmm ,
C: I think uh because you can just go for a good colours .
D: We can just use this red .
C: Yeah ,
D: It's  C: and uh A: Boo-hoo . A: It's already too expensive . C: Yeah .
A: Apparently .
D: So what is D: Are we supposed to cut things out now ?
A: Yeah .
A: Mm .
D: Uh , until we get twelve fifty .
A: Mm-hmm .
A: Mm . C: Oh . A: So think of what we can cut uh here . D: Well ,
D: if I look at what is the most expensive things , uh it's the L_C_D_
C: Sample speaker .
D: and the speaker .
C: Yeah .
A: Apparently , we have to choose one or the other . D: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
B: Well ,
B: as you may know there's some research done in the field of producing energy from mechanical eng ,
B: I mean , producing electricity from mechanical energy .
B: So , the point is that when you take device and push the button , you produce enough energy
A: But you don't need a battery ?
B: to make electricity .
B: Yeah ,
B: that you don't need a battery .
D: Mm-hmm .
B: So , it's something like hand dynamo robot . A real high-tech version of it .
D: So that would A: But um
A: it's like the hand dynamo , no ?
C: Maybe the jog wheel can be like kind of hand
D: So , but if we select the hand dynamo it's okay ,
D: we only C: is D: We we win one .
B: Okay ,
C: Yeah .
D: That's already that .
A: Uh it's a it's a beginning .
D: Okay , let's do that .
C: Yeah .
B: Why not .
A: Okay .
B: Let's do that .
A: So A: One here and here .
C: Yeah , just remo
A: 'Kay .
B: And I propose to C: S
B: So uh , about chips .
B: Advanced chip on print , right ?
A: Mm-hmm .
B: So , put minus one there , please . D: I'm not sure if this is legal .
A: Mm .
C: Yeah .
B: Why not ?
A: That's right . C: Uh , no .
B: And ?
D: And ?
A: M maybe minus uh three , no ? D: No . C: Yeah .
D: Okay , let's see .
B: So , was there result ?
C: No , no . It's not A: Mm-hmm . Mm .
B: Let's have a look .
C: It's not changing , no ?
C: It you don't
D: Yeah , yeah , yeah ,
B: Why ?
D: if D: Click somewhere ,
D: you'll see features .
B: Oops .
D: Yes , it does .
A:  So   D: Maybe put minus two , so it looks uh more reasonable . B: Yeah .