Project Manager: So we have to come effectively to the decision on the remote functions so that you can decide what you're gonna be doing . And if dur between the time of this meeting finishing and the next meeting starting , if you get any additional information that uh only you have at that point in time you'd think would be relevant to other people in terms of their des decision making um process , then we should communicate that as quickly as possible and not wait until the next meeting .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Do it via the email
Marketing: Okay . Yep .
Project Manager: so that rather than coming you know If you get the information just before the next meeting that's fine . Come along with it in the next meeting , we can discuss it then and take whatever action is appropriate .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: But if you get it well before the next meeting , let everybody else know 'cause that might have an impact on their uh on what they come up with effectively at the next meeting .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Right , is there Marketing: So do we need to decide on the functions now ? S
Project Manager: I would guess so .
User Interface: Well I think it'd be really easy and it'd be a big advantage if we did have some sort of um kind of whistle back kind of function .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: 'Cause that'll solve kind of the frustration of losing it .
Marketing: Yeah and Yeah and that was that was the number one sort of frustration that people said , so .
Project Manager: Yep .
User Interface: Marketing: I don't think there's anything else on the market that does that , so .
User Interface: Yeah . I don't really know about the voice recognition thing .
Project Manager: I w well uh i
Industrial Designer: Maybe we should concentrate just on the whistle back function at the moment ,
Project Manager: Something simple . Uh if if our primary consideration is to get it there in time , time's short ,
Industrial Designer: and if something comes back Project Manager: you want something to meet the major concerns of the consumer so that we can have that as a selling point for the product ,
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: something that's quick and simple . So ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: sounds good .
User Interface: And that wouldn't put off the kind of older generation either , 'cause everyone can whistle or clap , and they wouldn't have to be kind of scared of this new technology .
Project Manager: Well , so maybe a clap rather than a whistle would be  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: On the basis that if we've got if we're catering to the whole age range , you want something that's easy to do ,
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: now something that doesn't like whis uh
Marketing: No not everyone can whistle , can they , though ? Project Manager: Well I I I don't know . Well If you think that more people can whistle than clap then that's fine , then go for that option ,
User Interface: Project Manager: but if I would have thought that more people could clap rather than whistle ,
Marketing: No ,
Industrial Designer: I'd go more Marketing: clapping , I think clapping ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah , f more for clap .
Marketing: yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: so uh so clap option .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: 'Kay we've already decided that we don't need a teletext button , haven't we ?
Project Manager: Uh . Ef effectively that's what the that's what they're saying ,
User Interface: Is that one of the Project Manager: that uh if uh if people are now using the internet then you don't need teletext ,
User Interface: Hmm .
Marketing: Project Manager: so so take out teletext .
Marketing: Taking out teletext , okay .
Industrial Designer: Did we decide on having the ten um the ten numbers
User Interface: Right .
Industrial Designer: and then the the little digit next to it which kind of enabled you to put them together .
User Interface: Yeah , I think so , so zero to nine .
Marketing: Mm . I think nowadays you can just get ones where it gives you a sort of a second or two to press another number ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: so you can press any two and it'll sort of put them together .
Industrial Designer: Okay , ten numbers
User Interface: Industrial Designer: and then some kind of device to allow uh Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I'll put delay to allow um multiple numbers .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Or multiple digits .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Did we decide anything about um the other functions ? As in setting the audio and tuning it and stuff like that ? You had an had an idea about the menu ?
Marketing: Uh we could possibly put an L_ a sort of a L_C_D_ menu in , but that again is probably an expense that Industrial Designer: But just thinking um people probably I mean you don't have you only have to probably tune in the T_V_ once , but you have to be able to tune it that once .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So and if finally the T_V_ breaks , you get a new one , you're gonna have to be able to tune it . You can't really avoid that .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: Except the new digital markets which do it by themselves .
User Interface: Hmm .
Project Manager: But the but that's relying on the television market changing to an automatic
Industrial Designer: So that'll be in Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: and if it is at the moment , that's fine . But at the moment it's not , so it seems to me that you have to have a device that caters , 'cause otherwise it would make it uh your device would become inoperable , or only operable in certain circumstances
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: and the idea is to have an international market
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: which is Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: And it's also m it's the the product we've got is something that's at the I would have said the lower end of the s of the cost scale , so we're not really going for something that's uh terribly high-tech .
Marketing: Yeah . I s I suppose um if people are buying remotes , then they're probably buying it to replace another remote
Project Manager: Possibly .
Marketing: 'cause all most tellies come with remotes , so .
Project Manager: That's right .
Marketing: I mean we're maybe talking about replacing remotes for slightly older televisions , so we maybe need to keep the the tuning function in . Industrial Designer: Yeah . So how would this menu function work ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Would you maybe have like one menu button , then you'd use the other buttons , maybe the number buttons to actually do the separate functions .
User Interface: Yeah ,
Marketing: Yeah ,
User Interface: like the volume or something .
Marketing: that would be a good idea , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
User Interface: Yeah , 'cause you do need um kind of brightness and contrast and everything as well . My dad was watching a film the other week
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: and it was too dark , so I had to go through it and turn the brightness up .
Industrial Designer:  we're gonna have the the individual numbers
Marketing: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: and then a menu function and maybe sort of a slightly more advanced um instruction booklet to come with it , to guide Presu uh I think it'd be quite hard just for people to grasp um just off like the menu use different buttons you maybe have to have like some better instructions of how that would actually work .
Marketing: Uh I'm not sure whether the sort of having people have a booklet 'cause one the second most annoying thing that people found was having to learn the new one .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: Right , okay um .
Marketing: So maybe next to each of the buttons , you know each of them could have a number and then also a function written next to it , so you're basically pressing Industrial Designer: that also goes back to the original design when we saw those two , and there was the one on the left hand side which had all like the double functions and stuff which kind of looked too busy and had too much on it , so .
Marketing: Right .
Project Manager: Okay , well .
User Interface: Well , if we're trying to keep it slee sleek and sexy as well , have you seen those remotes where kind of um the bottom bit slides down , so there's kind of um everything else revealed ?
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: So y Ah That's a very good idea .
User Interface: So you don't use it that much , you don't have to see it all the time . But it's all there if you need it .
Industrial Designer: That is that is a good idea actually .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Sor sort of a second .
Project Manager: So you keep um User Interface: Like a hidden panel .
Project Manager: Right we've got five minutes before we wind up this meeting , so I've been told . I don't know if you've got the same .
Industrial Designer: Okay . Uh not quite , but I guess .
Project Manager: Okay . So so keep um keep detailed functions um hidden at the back .
Industrial Designer: Keep the other buttons but hide them away .
User Interface: Hmm . And that'll be better for the older generation as well 'cause , well my dad doesn't like anything that you've got to kinda flick through a menu ,
Project Manager: Ah .
User Interface: but he can pretty much read a button if it's displayed properly .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: So Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So um we're gonna have to have to work out what's gonna be on these other functions as as well . So we're gonna have like two separate two separate lists , I guess .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: That's right .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: data functions hidden at back . Can bring out when needed .
Marketing: So th the The detailed ones would be sort of brightness ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: uh sorta Project Manager: That's right so we're dis So you've got which ones are gonna be on the front and which ones are gonna be on the back . We have to decide .
Industrial Designer: So sh Should we decide in the next couple of minutes , and then Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: I guess so .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So on the Project Manager: So on front ,
Industrial Designer: about the number .
Project Manager: numbers ,
Industrial Designer: Um the volume up and down .
User Interface: And the volume ?
Project Manager: volume .
Industrial Designer: Shall we have a mute button as well ?
User Interface: Um .
Project Manager: Sorry ?
Industrial Designer: A mute button as well .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Or User Interface: Yeah I think they're handy .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . And probably a power one as well . Dunno .
User Interface: I know it's probably like um not an issue to raise here , but um the whole thing about not using your standby uh because of the like waste of electricity . Have you seen the adverts ? Like if you boil the kettle that's full that's a waste .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: If you leave your telly on standby it powers Blackpool for a certain amount of time .
Marketing: Yeah . User Interface: Like we should maybe try to discourage people from standby .
Industrial Designer: But then they might not buy it if they haven't got one . 'Cause people might just be too fickle and not want to change .
User Interface: Yeah , it's maybe too much of a big issue for here .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: So so are you having the stand-by on the front , then ?
Marketing: Yeah . Industrial Designer: We can send out a flier with the device saying that you shouldn't leave it on stand-by .
User Interface: Uh-oh danger sign .
Industrial Designer: I think you probably should .
Project Manager: User Interface: Yeah , but a little bit smaller .
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: Compromise .
Project Manager: Well  .
Industrial Designer: Um are we gonna have the channel up and down as well as the number buttons ?
Marketing: Um 'cause yeah the market research said there is quite a lot of people do just zap around and flick , so .
Industrial Designer: Okay , so we'll have um User Interface: Right .
Industrial Designer: So we've got ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen there ?
Project Manager: Channel up and down .
Marketing: Um .
Project Manager: What else have we got ? What was that , sixteen ?
Marketing: Numbers is ten , volume is twelve ,
Project Manager: Volume button . How many volumes ?
Marketing: th Yeah si One up , one down .
Project Manager: Right okay .
User Interface: On mute .
Marketing: And a mute , yeah . That's sixteen isn't it , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Is there anything else ? Um .
Marketing: I don't think so , no .
Project Manager: Power button , stand-by , channel , up and down . So is that it ?
Industrial Designer: User Interface: so .
Project Manager: Okay . That's sixteen buttons , you reckon . And then at the back ?
Marketing: You've got brightness and contrast .
Industrial Designer: Maybe if we're gonna run out of time , one of us should come up with a list of these and then get back at the next meeting just at the start and say what they're gonna be .
User Interface: And then Project Manager: Okay . So on the back it'll have brightness , contrast ,
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: anything else ? You're also gonna have the channel tuner , as it were .
User Interface: Uh there's audio functions .
Industrial Designer: So tuner up and down , I guess .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Tuner , would that have up and down ? .
Industrial Designer: Um up Tune one way , tune the o
User Interface: I think they normally do .
Project Manager: okay . Okay .
Industrial Designer: I I dunno I dunno possibly .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: And then maybe sort of an enter button for sort of s you know , saying that you want that particular thing tuned in . So you go up and down and then it pick it finds something and then you wanna press enter to select it , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Oh yeah and th and a enter button just to select . Yeah , okay . Um I guess we're keeping s it simple . We don't really need any other audio funct uh functions because it's just volume up , volume down .
Project Manager: Um up volume , yeah , I would have thought so .
Industrial Designer: Um .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: So I think um there's quite a lot of like Dolby surround studio , surround sort of things .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Do they have their own do they have their own controls on their actual products , then ,
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Um maybe for the younger market .
Industrial Designer: or do you have to do it via the remote ?
User Interface: Um I think they've got their own controls in this kind of like hidden panel .
Industrial Designer: Yeah I suppose if we've got their if they've got their own controls then we can avoid it for ours just to keep it simple .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: Oh no , I mean um like there's kind of individual buttons for them , like on the T_V_ remote .
Industrial Designer: Oh , okay . Right .
User Interface: But I don't really know what they're for ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: I've never used them .
Industrial Designer: Um .
User Interface: I just know they're something to do with Dolby .
Industrial Designer: Maybe unless something comes up then we should I think Project Manager: Well you might get some research .