D: it's not a fruit it's a vegetable .
B: It's like a pumpkin or  A: Yeah ? Pumpkin .
D: Green .
B: Green .
A: Green .
A: Um um um , yes I see .
B: What does it taste like ?
D: And you put in the salad .
A: Pep pepperoni .
D: Um
B: Ah yeah ,
B: is it B: what's it in French ?
A: Poivron .
D: Oui c'est ca
B: Yeah , okay , so capsicum or pepper . Yeah .
A: Uh pepper .
D: Pepper .
A: But um they do d
D: And it's al it also suits with the double curve for easy of A: Yeah .
B: I don't know , it seems a little bit kind of bulky to me , like
D: No ,
D: I mean in a A: Yeah .
A: It's not re it B: like with a banana you can have A: you you think it's really fancy and fun ?
A: You think that young people that are D: I'm sure it's fun . A: Yeah . More than a banana ?
D: But banana is not so handy ,
C: Banana is more handier as compared to this I think , and to capsicum .
B: Well D: I think that's handier .
B: But like a banana you can you can be holding like this and have the scroll wheel kind of on top
B: and just
A: Yeah .
B: roll it back and forth like that ,
A: It's kind it's kind of it's more uh B: but with uh B: I don't know how you would hold a capsicum and  A: it's really ergonomic , it's fit in the hand and you've a lot of surface to to put the controls .
D: B: A: Okay let's move on .
D: Yeah you're right .
A: So time is running ,
A: let's move on .
C: Okay , so push buttons for the traditional users so that they don't feel they are alienated ,
C: just C: and a scroll button with push technology for channel selection , volume control and teletext browsing .
C: These are the three scroll buttons which are already available with us in the company
C: and we we can go ahead with that .
A: Okay .
C: Yeah , we can go to the next slide .
C: Then uh there are different kind of chips ,
C: one one is the basic chip and the regular chip and one an adva advanced chip .
C: So we can have regular chip for control .
C: Pricing is a factor for us , that's why we'll go for the regular chip .
C: And uh regular chip supports speaker support ,
C: so this functionality could be used for tracing the mobile phone which has been misplaced .
B: So is that , when you say speaker support , you mean it just has some output pinned which which which kind of C: It could be a beep kind of thing .
B: Okay ,
B: but the speaker is actually attached to the to the chip in some way , or is just the the signal ?
C: Yes , yes , that's right , it's it's onto the chip ,
B: Okay .
C: most most probably , not not hundred per cent sure about that .
B: Okay .
B: So are there any issues where we place this this chip to make sure you can actually hear the the speaker from the outside of the banana ?
C: That will be the volume control I think which which a user shou it it should be already pre-defined .
C: It should be whatever will be the case , the chip is always going to be sitting inside .
B: Okay .
B: Yeah , but the speaker , if the speaker is actually on the chip , then if it's too far away from the the casing , or if the casing is too thick , then you may not hear the the speaker .
C: Mm-hmm .
C: Uh , so we can have it at one of the boundaries so that things are slightly better .
B: Yeah .
C: As C: or as hearing is concerned , we can have some gap at some place ,
B: Yeah .
C: so that B: So that's something we have to keep in mind with the actual physical design is to keep the the speaker close enough to the outside .
C: That's right .
C: Okay . Yeah .
C: So these these were the component selection and these things .
C: We can go to the next slide .
C: And uh these were the findings which I I saw with the web web ,
C: that user wants to have control more than one device wants to control more than one device from the same remote control ,
C: so our T_V_ remote can have little extra things to support additional devices like V_C_R_ D_V_D_ players which are usually attached with the T_V_ ,
C: because users are like this and they don't want to have one remote control for everything ,
C: so with this additional little , we might be having slightly better market for us .
B: Although , if B: It depends , if we like , if we are concentrating on like a fruit design , then maybe maybe we wanna sell a collection of fruit , you know , like a different fruit for each device .
C: Mm .
C: Of fruits .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: Cause that , you know , that sometimes people like to collect um you know things that of a similar type .
C: Remotes
A: S objects .
C: objects , okay .
A: Crazy objects .
D: I think that would be funny at the beginning but after one month you will be tired of be surrounded of fruits .
B: Well , you're the one who wanted to do fruit in the first place .
D: No but I think just one fruit to control everything .
B: Like a power fruit .
D: A power fr a power M a Mando , a Supermando fruit .
B: C: And uh as well as I could see on the web the scroll button is becoming really uh hot thing s
A: B: Yeah .
A: Okay .
C: and we should have it on the remote .
D: Actually I I didn't understand very well this trace speaker lost control .
B: Well A: Okay , good .
C: So you're having a basis station .
C: Okay .
C: Your C: usually your remote sits on that .
C: So you C: and it's that's why it can have chargeable batteries .
C: Now let's say D: So you you have to buy two things , the banana and the basis station .
A: Bu it's it's .
C: Basis station is with the thing .
A: You s you you thing .
C: It's like a telephone handset is there and the basis station for the telephone hand set is there .
C: So now what user gets additionally he doesn't have to buy batteries , they're rechargeable batteries , so over the period of cor time he'll recover the cost .
C: So you're having the basis station and there is a button ,
C: if you press that button wherever the remote it'll start beeping so you know where the remote is . Uh B: I think that's a pretty handy feature .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
B: I think it's kind of people would find that worth it even if it wasn't uh a recharging station , even if they didn't have to buy extra batteries , you know .
C: Mm-hmm , mm-hmm ,
C: mm-hmm , mm-hmm .
D: Yeah but I'm a bit worried about the budget . B: So C: Uh this is C: basis station is nothing more , just it's a wire which is coming from the main cable and uh you're having one socket on which the thing sits .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: B: Although you do need to include R_F_ kind of circuitry in the remote .
C: That's right .
C: But all these things are usually in-house so we don't have much problems .
A: C: So component cost is going to be the least .
C: Anyway , we are not using really advanced technology ,
C: L_C_D_ has already been ruled out , A_S_R_ has been ruled out .
C: So it's the basic thing but very trendy and very user-friendly .
B: Okay .
C: And B: I'm just wondering actually , 'cause , you know , I this whole fruit thing with the banana , it's um it seemed like it first seems a bit kind of uh niche , like only a few people would really want a banana ,
B: but what if it was kind of uh a stylised banana ?
B: You know , rather than having it kind of you know yellow and really looking exactly like a banana , you could make it kind of silver .
B: And um , you know to give you kind of the idea of a banana but without it looking you know completely kitsch . For better want of a better word
B: you know ?
A: You think that yellow it's kitsch .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: Well , you know , I don I don't know how many peop
D: C: A: If you make something that looks like a banana it should have the colour of a banana .
D: Yeah .
D: No , I I D: C: A yeah , otherwise it'll be mis means you don't get b any feeling then .
B: Well they A: O otherwise D: Maybe li like that .
C: It's neither a banana nor a B: Yeah , like this colour this colour B: Maybe , you know ,
B: maybe like still in the shape of a banana .
A: Roughly .
B: No , exactly .
A: D: B: Exactly .
B: Um , but you know , just maybe maybe not exactly the same texture as a banana
B: and just kind of , you know B: because the thing is it's gonna be a little bit difficult to make um to give like the texture of a banana anyway and to k to have the exact shape .
B: I think if you're gonna not be able to do it properly you may as well do it in a stylised way that just looks a bit more kind of , you know , twenty first century rather than sixties or seventies .
A: Yeah .
A: Okay . Let's move on .
C: And uh going to the last slide .
A: Uh uh A: yeah .
A: Before before st before ending the meeting I'd like to to draw some sketch about the pro future prot prototype .
B: Okay .
A: Go for it .
C: Okay .
A: Well no , not not you ,
A: you can finish your slides before C: Okay .
C: Okay ,
C: so . Anyway , users'll be C: so the findings is users'll be very interested in our locator device to find their misplaced remotes .
A: Mm A: okay .
C: So that was very C: I thought it's a very good suggestion by everybody .
A: Okay .
C: That's it .
A: That's all ?
C: Yep .
A: Okay , so mm A: so well done for the presentations .
A: So we need to take some de decisions about um about what we're going to do .