A: So is A: Why not save that .
D: No , you'll ha have to open it up from elsewhere .
A:  Do you want to replace existing file , no .
A: A: I actually tried to transfer it to My Documents , but D: Yeah , you have to you have to close that window .
D: 'Cause that's the save one isn't it , so D: And then find it .
A: spreadsheet .
D: A: Yeah , but I've ta uh
D: A: right , I'll just re-do it .
A: That's the easiest way . A: A: Right .
C: Well we've made our prototype anyway .
C: We can have a good look at that . D: You pass it round to have a look .
C: Mm-hmm .
C: Y no , it's a slightly curved around the sides . D: Mm very nice .
C: Um , it's almost curved like up to the main display as well .
D: Mm-hmm .
C: And the little line at the bottom indicates the bit the panel that you pull down .
C: And the extra function buttons are below that panel on the little line .
D: Mm-hmm .
C: And we've got the stick on the button with the company logo on .
D: Mm-hmm .
B: We also have a apple slash cherry design at the top .
D: So it is , yeah .
C: D: Cherry would be alright actually .
B:   D: Yeah .
C: Yeah ,
C: it's a bit more fun , isn't it ?
C: And it's kinda not really at a kind of C: you think apple , you think computers , like Apple Mac .
B: Yeah , yeah ,
B: we might get a D: Mm-hmm .
D: Copyright , yeah .
D: What's this this one ?
C: Yeah , and cherries are fun , summery .
D: What's that one there ?
C: Ah , that's the mute .
D: Oh , okay . Right .
B: For the M_ . C:  It it'd probably have to be labelled mute .
D: D: Uh-huh .
C: But um , we didn't have anything small enough to write .
B: They're thinking D: Okay .
B: For the first time , well it was hard to get the h um the actual labelling on the individual buttons .
D: Mm-hmm . C: Yeah .
D: C: Uh , we just chose simple shapes for all them .
C: Um , the important ones are the volume ones .
C: So we made them a bit bigger .
D: Mm-hmm .
C: The mute could possibly be a bit smaller .
B: Hum , you separate off in colour the volume related buttons from the channel related buttons ,
B: so you've got the volume in orange on design there ,
C:  D: Yeah .
B: and the the channel is in blue .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: R right . Um ,
C: Yeah , and we chose a V_ plus and V_ minus .
A: all these things have cost implications .
A: And so when I done my thing on cost a I had assumed that the only uh button that would be a different colour would be the uh the red apple button .
A: So However , I've now . But um , yeah
A: so uh but there would be a cost implication on that ,
D: I'll see if I can find them .
A: and uh as I suppose that so whether wanted to put in all these colours , would be uh open to debate , I suppose .
B: Yeah , sis
C: Well the colours wouldn't like that's they wouldn't be too important ,
D: Have C: but we didn't have any white Play-Doh .
C: So that's where the colour buttons came from . A: An important consideration .
D: A: Right , okay so um A: And the second one underneath would be the idea for the B: Yes , we'll have the slide-away .
A: Right , okay .
B: Bottom .
A: So we've got um detail design meeting .
A: Right .
A: So A: So , we've got prototype presentation , which we've just done ,
A: evaluation criteria ,
A: um and finance ,
A: so I guess w we have to evaluate if that meets the various uh aspects that we're looking for uh from um our previous meeting .
D: Mm-hmm .
C: A: So other than the fact that it doesn't have the second layer , but um obviously obviously it would .
D: Mm-hmm .
B: Mm-hmm .
C: A: But other than that , we got the red apple .
A: We got the buttons
A: and the only thing that has really changed is the is the colouration of the buttons ,
B: Yes , yes .
A: and the bit after the evaluation criteria is uh is the finance . And the and the cost implication .
D: Right .
B: Okay .
A: The only snag about this is that uh the cost is probably kind of important .
A: So um , and then the production evaluation , as to how easy that would be to uh to manufacture .
B: Mm-hmm .
A: Um , and whether it would uh D: D: So if you had to do a presentation or will you just work it on the prototype ?
C: Uh , that's it . B: This this is a B: yes ,
B: this is our presentation of the prototype .
D: That's the pr
D: Okay .
A: Right , so uh as far as the the finance of it would be concern would be to make sure that the cost aye the production cost 'cause you may remember that was one of the first uh considerations was to be in d under um uh twelve fifty or two and a half uh twelve and a half Euros .
B: Mm-hmm .
A: So , there's no redesign .
A: So that should uh A: Right , so , seems to me that the thing that I have to do is is quickly find that uh B: Could we get this on the board just so we can see B: or do you mean do you have the figures there ?
D: we should plug it in .
A: Right .
D: Do you wanna plu do you wanna plug it in into the the back of that one .
A: Okay .
B: 'Kay , Alice .
B: So , sh
D: We could do it as we d go along , the production costs , looking at the prototype .
A: Right . .
B: 'Kay this should be then .
A: A: Okay , so , by the fact that we've got uh the simple chip and the uh kinetic energy source , we've got a single curved case . We've got a rubber uh case materials supplements .
A: So , we had decided that we're having rubber buttons and B: Mm-hmm .
B: B: Have a push button interface .
A: Okay . W the button supplements .
B: Um A: Well , originally , I thought there would just be uh one in there because it was the one red apple .
B: Um A: But A: So the so the real w the real question then would come in .
A: Do you make all the buttons D: Well do we'll do it on the prototype ,
A: O
D: so do two ,
D: see how much it is .
A: Well , so we've got one special button form , which was the apple .
A: Everything else is gonna be a standard .
D: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: And then we'd have A: We've got special material , rubber , wood , titanium , et cetera and that ,
A: so , I was  originally , I was thinking rubber wasn't special ,
D: Mm-hmm .
A: but according to this , maybe it is .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: So A: And the r I mean effectively we've got sixteen buttons that we're gonna have on there .
D: Yeah .
D: I think you just do one , don't you , for the A: W I don't know is is is the sort of answer ,
A: is that meant to be all sixteen buttons ,
A: and therefore I mean , what's the op
A: The option was maybe not to have rubber buttons ,
A: but just to have the one that was soft and spongy ,
A: and therefore D: I think I think it's just it's just a one . Else A: Whereas it would be the special colour would be for the A: So you would only have the one special button that was rubber ,
A: whereas the rest would be hard plastic .
D: I thi I think I think the button supplement i is just a supplement for all the buttons made in a different material , rather than per button .
A: A: Mm .
D: I don't know though .
A: I would   A: Every design change is uh  D: Hmm .
A: I dunno ,
A: um  A: Okay , um ,
A: if we just had all the buttons as standard , except for the one red apple , then that would take care of that , I guess .
A: We'd have one special colour
A: and one special button form .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: And when I plugged that in last time  remember it has to be under twelve and a half . As far as I know , that um that took care of the uh of the various supplements .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: And if A: What happened ?
D: You've just gone off the window into another one .
D: It's on the bottom row .
C: Maybe if you just minimise that one in the top right-hand corner of the little box .
A: C: Yeah .
A: Now , right . C: A: Okay , so , but the point would be that if we uh if we just did special A: Sorry ,
A: you were saying that it would be that one , that you would put in one there .
D: Yeah . Yeah .
A: Okay .
B: So that's nine point one there
B: so we've got some A: So it A: Well , is it s is A: no ,
A: it's nine point seven I've got .
B: 'Kay .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: Okay .
B: Just give us a bit of A: So , that would that would work out fine if uh uh as assuming your correction are are  assuming that that one change covers all the buttons , then that would be fine .
D: Mm-hmm .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: And there's nothing else as far as I can see that we we had uh planned to put on .
D: C: S
B: I switching around those th um on the electronics we got the sample sensor .
B: At the moment we've just got the simple chip , which costs one .
B: Um , I guess the sample sens sample speaker would be the voice recognition thing , which puts up to four ?
A: Uh-huh .
D: Yeah .
B: We should be slightly over our budget
B: but if we gather something else down to slightly lower standard , and maybe go with the one the special form buttons , then we could have the speech D: Yeah .
A: Well , hold on .
A: Um , if we
A: Okay , that gives us twelve point seven
B: So uh maybe if we got rid of like the maybe one of the special colours , kept them all the same colour , then we could have the voice recognition
A: But remember that the idea was to keep it the colour of the  B: without A: Oh , I see ,
A: so just take out the special colour for the apple and B: Yeah , yeah .
C: Um , . D
C: wouldn't you have to keep the simple chip there as well ?
C: You know how you turn that one to a zero ,
C: wouldn't the chip and the sample speaker be separate things ,
D: Yeah ,
D: we have to have it B: Oh possibly , yeah , yeah maybe .
C: so you need both of them ?
D: Yeah .
B: Maybe um we'd be giving up on the kinetic .
B: Um A: And go for battery instead .
D: Yeah .
A: That would give you one less .
B: We should B: Yeah ,
B: that would save us one ,
B: though we'd still be slightly ov
A: But you reckon that
A: i I mean the thing is that you wanted to a appeal to people and not have to replace batteries .
B: Yeah , yeah .
B: Well , since it's the through the whole technology type thing , um , you were saying in the market research that people like kind of interesting gadgets in them .
D: Mm-hmm .
B: Um , whether they would figure the the s uh sample senor and the sample speaker , voice recognition be sort of a worthwhile thing to have .
B: And then still have the batteries ,
D: Mm-hmm .
B: or whatever they would prefer not uh B: You know what I mean ?
B: The the problem was the battery's running out and losing the um losing the remote .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: Yeah .
B: So you gotta decide which of those is more important to them .
A: But which do you think or which do we think is the more important of the options ?
C: I think the voice recognition .
A: In a sense , at the moment , we've got a total which we need to reduce down by one point two .
A: At least .
A: Remember that was a minimum requirement .
A: The other option if we're planning on just going for something cheap and cheerful , would be to um make it originally , we're gonna make it a simple product .
D: Shall we shall we evaluate the prototype as we've got it now first ,
B: Yeah .
D: and then sort of make decisions about what needs to be changed after ?
A: Mm-hmm . Makes sense .
D: Okay . Right um ,
B: Okay
D: I have a little thing .
D: So , we've all got a note of it's thirteen point seven , isn't it , with everything we want on .
A: .
A: Sorry ,
A: do you want that back up ?
D: Yeah ,
D: I just had a presentation to do . A: Right .
C: But I do think uh the v uh voice recognition thing would be more impressive than the fact that it's got no battery .
A: Okay ,
A: but remember the main the only reason we were planning on having the voice recognition was so that they could find the remote if it got lost .
D: Mm-hmm . Mm . D: Right okay um ,
D: This is about the evaluation criteria that we use for the the prototype we've got here .
C: D: And so the method is that the design team makes a prototype ,
D: and we evaluate the prototype against some criteria that we've formulated .
D: And those ones are gonna be in response to sort of market research ,
D: and also finance , I guess .
D: And do that on a scale from say true being one and false being seven ,
D: so if it's neither true nor false , then that's four .
D: So , I got a set of criteria just based on the marketing that we need to add in a financial one as well , at the end .
D: Um so , We have to say whether it's true or false that the product looks and feels fancy .
D: Um The whether the product demonstrates technical innovation .
D: Whether it's easy to use .
D: Whether it's incorporating sort of the fashion element to attract the buyer .
D: And whether it's a sort of recognisable Real Reaction product .
D: And I have to go up onto the whiteboard and do this apparently ,
B: Okay .
D: so I'll go over here . D: Right .
D: So the first one is um , does the product look and feel fancy .
D: So if we do a sort of a one D: So B: Okay , well we have a single curve ,
B: which was maybe like the feel of the product's quite good .
D: Yeah .
B: So uh D: Okay .
B: Um , then we have the rubber kinda spongy feel , which was in at the time .
D: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah .
B: Um , sorry that'd be considered fancy .
D: C: Yeah , I'd maybe give it a a two .
D: Of but I think D: What Is one false , or is t one true ?
D: I forgot .
C: One's true .
D: One's true , and okay . Seven's fal
C: And a four is neutral .
D: Four is neutral , okay .
D: So B: So maybe maybe a two .
C: Yeah ,
C: 'cause we haven't got the double curve ,
C: so we can't like say it's completely true .
A: Go for one . Yep .
D: Right .
C: But it's pretty close .
C: We've got almost everything we can .
D: Okay . Right .
A: Okay .
D: I gonna put underneath so I've got some more space .
D: So , false is seven , true is one , and D: So uh say about a two for fancy ,
B: Yeah .
D: you think ?
C: Yeah .
D: Okay .
A: Yeah , why not not ,
A: m m maybe nearer three .
D: Okay , well d you do an average at the end , I don't know . Um A: Two three .
A: Well , it's just that uh saying something  remember that when you look down , we've got solar power , we've got uh various other things you could have ,
D: Uh-huh .
A: and we're not going for these options .
D: This this is just this is just for like the look .
D: Does it sort of look fancy rather than functional . So A: Mm-hmm .
A: C: Yeah , I suppose that might be in the technical innovation bit .
D: Yeah ,
D: so that D: so sh should we go for a a two on that ?
A: Okay .
D: 'Kay .
D: And I mean , how much does the product demonstrate technical innovation do you reckon ?
B: Um , deciding between the kinetic power or um the speech recognition ,
B: and if we had either of those for our budget , they both show a reasonable amount of speech recognition .
D: D yeah .
D: Okay .
D: So , what about the pr The prototype as it is ,
B: Um D: we've got we've got the speech recognition on it , haven't we .
B: But not the kinetic .
D: But not the kinetic .
B: Like the power .
A: No .
A: 'Cause you can't afford that A: w we took that out too .
B: No ,
B: we c ca
B: yeah ,
B: we can't afford both .
D: Alright , so A: Didn't you ? Or D: So it doesn't D: It's pretty D: The prototype as it is isn't sort of um fulfilling the B: No
B: may is maybe about neutral
C: Maybe a three .
B: plus it it it's got something ,
D: B: but it hasn't got D: Okay . Yeah .
A: Well , wait a minute .
A: In thirteen point seven we do have kinetic .
C: I would give it more than a four .
A: The problem is we have to reduce down from there to get it down to twelve point five .
B: Right .
B: Okay .
A: And one way of doing that would be to take out the kinetic .
A: So , it's very much dependant on what you do with your options .
D: Right , okay .
A: And if you're definitely going for the sample sensor and sample speaker , then because that B: 'Kay .
A: the other functions we've got in are are more at the  A: The special material , the rubber , wood , titanium , et cetera , if you go for that , th that's at the high end 'cause that's point six ,
A: whereas down at uh just special colours uh is point two .
A: Now you're trying to lose one point two ,
A: so it seems to me that if you're going for the sample sensors speaker , you're basically then having to go for the cheaper options on everything else .
D: Mm-hmm .
B: Okay .
A: And and the simple way to do it would be to have a battery , to have your uh sample sensor speaker ,
B: Um A: and then you're looking to uh take out uh point two ,
D: S
D: I'm just gonna check my email . A: which would be come from the button supplements category .
D: I'm just gonna check exactly what it said in the email for um the product .
C: How much of a difference would it make if we made the case in plastic ?
C: Because we did say that we don't wanna follow the fashion too much .
C: If the buttons are rubber that might be spongy enough .
C: And then it stand the test of time better .
A: Um , interface type um ,
A: well plastic rather than rubber . D: Okay . But I A: That that that would make the significant difference .
A: You could either A: you could have it A: If you have a in plastic rather than rubber , then that would uh enable you to get you could keep kinetic then , you could keep your sample sensor ,
A: and you'd be looking to take out point two .
A: So you could uh fiddle that down your special form at the bottom ,