A: So we come to the third meetings .
A: I have
A: good .
C: A: Um so in the last meeting we have discussed the functional design
A: and now we will talk about the conceptual design .
A: So we will talk about some specific details .
C: Okay so I think I will do my presentation on the components concept
C: so can you please uh open uh C: I'm participant two .
C: Components design .
A: This A: C: Okay so uh
C: the first thing uh I have done is to to made a review together with the uh manufactural uh department
C: and have which components was uh available to build a remote control .
C: So for energy sources we have we have to choose between the solar energy , hand dynamo and uh kinetic um well uh kinetic uh technique to to store the energy .
B: D: C: We also um we also can put a regular battery in the in the remote control .
A: Uh this is what we have decided in the last meeting .
C: Now A: But if we use battery C: Yeah
C: b uh f well uh I meant uh by by battery I meant uh I will not have a uh a wire between the remote control and the energy source
C: but uh I didn't fou
C: we didn't decide yet which kind of battery we will put inside the the remote .
C: So uh it's a point to discuss .
C: Then uh the case material we have uh uh also several choices , like wood , rubber , titanium or latex .
C: But uh well it's not a a re uh well a real issue for the  from the technical uh point of view .
C: Concerning the interface uh we can we can put mm just simple buttons or scrolls or buttons uh much more complicated ,
C: but it also requires that the chip to process the button is more complicated so .
B: Mm .
C: And uh this is the last point , the choice of chips .
C: So what I have f found is that I think basic battery or kinetic uh energy uh collection is the is the better way to provide energy
C: because I think solar energy wi won't work in a cluttered uh uh environment .
B: Mm .
C: So um so I think we can start with these two main things .
C: For the case uh well uh I think that uh titanium is um is a good choice
C: because it's trendy
C: and it's uh it's uh well it's modern
C: and uh user are are are mm will be uh very happy to have a a a nice remote .
C: For the interface uh I think that we can ach achieve uh all the desired functionalities by s just uh using uh rubber buttons , simple buttons
C: and th thus this allow to use a regular chip that are uh well cheaper . B: Mm .
C: And s so uh we can move to the next slide .
B: Sorry .
C: Yeah .
B: What is this single curved B: what does it mean ?
C: Well uh uh i i it's uh it's the the shape of the um of the remote .
B: So it's it's not C: You you will have the well um the the curve will fit into your hand when you grab the B: Yo l yeah .
B: When you hold on it , it is comfortable to hold .
C: Yeah .
C: It's more confog f comfortable that if these uh it's completely flat .
B: Okay .
B: Yeah .
B: And the battery , is it kind of a rechargeable or it doesn't matter ?
C: Yeah the um that's the point .
C: The kinetic one is uh y you can recharge uh by the um B: That that's what it means by kinetic .
C: Yeah
C: and by well by just by moving the ar uh your arm the mm well the remote will uh accumulate energy .
B: Okay .
B: Mm-hmm .
B: Okay .
C: But I d I don't know it's if it is feasible
C: because I don't know if yet if if the user will move enough to provide the remote um all the necessary energy .
B: Mm .
B: Mm .
B: Okay .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: We we might check with our R_ and D_ department to see if they have this product ready for market . C: Yeah .
C: And yeah and
C: so can you go to the next slide please .
C: So and uh that's uh that summarize well what I have said .
B: Mm mm .  Wha
C: So uh you're right
C: we can uh see in our uh R_ and D_ uh if the kinetic metal is sufficient to provide enough energy .
B: Ah the department .
B: Mm .
C: That's it .
B: Uh B: So I um keep in touch with the R_ and D_ department .
C: Oh yeah
C: I take care ,
B: C: it's all right .
B: B: So the titanium case is the normal case that B: I'll show you some pictures that I have
B: and you tell me whether they are titanium case or not .
C: All right . Yeah .
B: 'Cause I am not very sure , plastic , titanium or whatever .
B: There's another point I want to make ,
B: is that the uh well you've seen them I le na my presentation that um I point out some why buttons are not the mm not the only ways you can use B: Yeah .
B: Yeah ,
C: B: maybe n
A: We will , okay .
B: A: Three .
B: Yeah .
B: B: So the user interface is uh i it uses the aspect uh of a computer system ,
B: a programme which can be seen or heard or otherwise perceived by the human user
A: B: and the commands and mechanism the user uses to control its operation and input data .
B: So you s this gives you the ways to input data
B: and we have uh we are more B: we emphasise more on the graphical user interface here .
B: The idea is to represent buttons as figures , diagrams , symbols and on
B: so you you can easily when you look at the symbols you understand what it is doing .
A: What's the function of this button .
B: Yeah . Yeah . So .
A: I think it makes the the interface really B: Ea easy to use .
B: So next one .
A: Graphical user interface .
B: function five .
B: So I can use the button , the mouse maybe .
A: A graphical user interface emphasise the use of pictures .
B: Yeah .
B: So next line .
B: So the here are some examples .
B: So they cluster the buttons together .
B: They group them into col they colour them
B: and uh they have different forms as well .
B: Mm
B: but this interface are kind of confusing .
B: Uh basically there are too many buttons .
B: Right . Next one .
C: Yeah .
B: So some people are propose voice recognition
B: and so B: ah by the way I receive an email from the from one our departments saying that the voice recognition has been used in the coffee machine for this by a company
C: B: when you tell the you say good morning coffee machine
B: and the machine are reply to you .
C: Mm-hmm mm mm .
B: So I just got an email saying that .
B: And it seems like this voice recognition technology is ready to be used
B: so we might consider that , supposedly .
C: Yeah fine .
B: The next one .
B: Mm so somebody some people use uh some people use a spinning wheel th with the L_C_ display
B: so instead of using the mm buttons you have a L_C_D_ screen
B: and then there you can u you can use that as buttons ,
B: you can use that as real B: so so that could be an option as well .
B: Touch screen , I mean .
A: Yeah .
B: Next one .
B: And some people propose a scroll button . Integrated with push buttons
B: or you may have scroll button instead of p just the push button .
B: Like the one we have here .
B: Uh , next one .
B: So
B: mm
A: Mm-hmm .
B: so there are a few aspects that I collected here .
B: So s basically this deals with special users , children , handicapped people , old people ,
B: and uh mm and prog
B: basically they are programmable ,
B: specially for children .
B: And uh mm yeah yeah .
B: And then they also secure uh covers , to protect
B: uh secure and hidden programming and battery covers that will protect your settings .
B: So B: But we don't have to integrate all these complicated features .
B: I'm just saying that the currently in the market there are there are control there are remote controllers f customisable for different people .
B: Yeah , so that's the point .
B: The next one .
B: And uh you see this is the one where you have the protection cover .
B: Mm maybe useful for children ,
B: they migh you you they only see the buttons outside .
B: And for adults wh where you have more control you can see the one inside .
B: So the adults might wanna have a key to lock that to pr so children will not touch the button inside .
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: S a good idea .
B: The next one .
C: B: So this guy B: this is another company that provides big buttons .
B: At B: I see that that is useful for old people
B: and then you don't get it lost .
B: But for our product we don't need a big one
B: because you have voice recognition e eventually with use .
C: Yeah .
B: And you can call your remote controller if you don't know where it is .
C: B: T_V_ remote controller where are you ?
A: C: B: And then , he will beeps and to say that I am here , for example .
A: We should include speech synthesis in this case , no ?
B: Is it possible ?
D: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
B: Uh ? C: Yeah
D: Yeah .
C: but uh as Norman say if uh there is uh already a commercial product available who t who do this we we can check uh to integrate it i into our uh new remote control .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: And uh , this is another one
B: where you can uh B: the the the part that's a V_ standing for the volume .
B: So there's a up arrow and a down arrow .
B: But you the see that in the V_ , the V_ appears to be the down arrow on the top B: on the top up arrow  if you A: Mm-hmm .
B: up arrow there's a V_ like as as if it's turning down
B: so it's confusing interface ,
B: so I wanna avoid this kind of thing in the design .
C: Yeah yeah .
B: And here are is uh here is a s short summary that I summary that I compiled after the findings I found .
B: Big buttons are convenient ,
B: voice recognition helps ,
B: push buttons , scroll buttons , spinning wheels can be used as navigation tools .
B: And uh user customisable is important
B: and finally simplicity simplicity is the key .
B: Yeah . So B: we have many concepts there
C: Hmm . B: but we have to choose later on which ones are important to be used .
C: Yeah .
B: And basically uh C: Well I I think you it's it's it's fine you have uh reviewed all all the possibilities
B: Yeah .
C: but uh uh well uh i if we consider that uh the user interface is displayed on the T_V_ screen I don't think we nee uh we need much buttons in the remote
A: B: Mm-hmm .
C: since we we just have to navigate and to have a okay or enter key or things like that ,
B: Yeah .
B: Mm .
C: because uh adding wheels or scrolls uh makes the thing more complicated and more expensive also , so .
B: Mm .
B: Okay .
A: Or maybe we can include the user manual in the in the remote control A: and we should have just a button like help
A: and you say uh and you ik you press the button help
A: and maybe you see the the user m might in the in the T_V_ .
C: Yeah . That's a good idea .
D: C: To have a help button .
B: A help button .
C: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
B: So you are display on the screen .
C: On the T_V_ screen .
A: On T_V_ T_V_ screen .
B: So on the T_V_ screen .
C: On the T_V_ screen the uh how to use your remote .
A: So just you push the button
B: Okay . Okay . Okay .
A: and we will D: Oh .
B: So that eliminates all the complicated documentation ,
A: Yeah .
B: okay .
B: So wi
D: But people are often enough looking at the help ,
D: once they see the help button they say oh this is a complicated stuff .
A: If the if A: No A: In the case where they need help , in the case where they need help .
C: Uh yeah . D: It's a psychology .
C: In a marketing point of view .
D: Okay .
D: And let us see what the market demands .
B: Yeah .
D: We could just go to my presentation .
A: Yeah .
C: But uh wel well I think A: It's just for user customizable , for kids or old people .
D: Yeah that's right .
B: Mm .
D: I mean it just showed us the remote with an cap which could be used for kids
A: So D: and if you remove the A: So it's the same D: Same remote with some A: Can be used by both kids and old people .
D: Both yeah .
B: Mm .
B: Well uh what I s propose is that uh you know a remote controller , i it could be a cube ,
C: B: is uh a small device that uh looks like a cube
B: and maybe you can just change the um the buttons ,
B: if you ch turn one side you get one one buttons ,
B: you turn the other side you get the other buttons ,
B: so for maybe new generation people who get used to the computer they want lots of controls . A: Maybe for kids ,
A: kids they like uh t no l they like to B: Small C: Uh well .
C: So le le let's see what uh what people want .
B: Yeah .
B: Let's see the market demand .
A: D: And then we can decide what what we can yeah .
B: What what market yes yes .
A: D: So we just made an marketing survey of what people need from our remotes
D: and how it could be special from the other remotes .
D: And we got the best on the responses from the questionnaires .
D: Uh we also have some prizes for the most creative solutions .
D: And we found the following solutions which we could which would be helpful for our design .
D: So seventy percent of the users , they find their remote controls very ugly ,
D: they don't find it pleasant to use in the size or usage or anything .
D: And eighty percent of the people they are always l I mean they are willing to spend more money if the remote control would look fancy .
D: And the current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user .
D: And seventy five percent of the users said they zap a lot .
D: And fifty percent say they use only ten percent of the buttons ,
A: Yeah . C: Yeah .
D: so the rest of the ninety percent of the buttons they're not used most of the times .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: Yeah . Yes .
D: So this were the findings which we found .
D: And also they cited frustrations with the present remote controls .
D: Most of D: fifty percent of the time the remote controls are lost somewhere in the room
D: and people are always searching for them rather than watching the T_V_ .
B: Yeah .
D: And by the time they found the remote control the program is finished .
D: So they're frustrated a lot C: Yeah .
B: D: And um if the remote control is too complicated it takes much time to learn the functionality of it .
B: Mm .
C: Mm , the functionalities yeah .
D: So you can just see the percentage ,
D: fifty percent people they responded that they always lose their remotes
D: and thirty four percent they say that it's quite difficult to learn if it's too complex .
C: Yeah .
D: So keeping in view all these findings and the frustrations I think this should be the solution for them .
D: We should have an L_C_D_ on the rem remote control .
B: Oh .
C: Well mm w well I I I don't really see the advantage of having uh L_C_D_ on the on the remote control if we have a a a big screen and uh display on the screen .
B: Big screen .
C: It's D: Mm-hmm ?
C: yeah of course it's fancy trendy and so on
C: but it's it's expensive to produce C: and it's not really D: I mean as our survey says that people are willing to pay more if their remotes are fancy .
C: Yeah .
D: So if we have a L_C_D_ on the remote , rather than looking onto the T_V_ you just look into a remote and navigate it .
D: It's the same menu as we have saw that iPod remote control .
B: Mm yeah .
C: Yeah yeah .
B: Mm . The thing  D: We just play around
C: Yeah but when you play with the iPod you don't have a big screen in front of you , s
B: Yeah . Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: You can use this screen instead of the big se screen ,
B: Yeah .
B: If you re-use the existing screen , we element eliminate the L_C_D_ ,
A: instead of use the yeah .
B: after all the L_C_D_ just to display
A: Hmm .
B: and if you have the colourful screen you can make the display colourful , fancy ,
D: Yeah .
B: as fancy as the one on the L_C_D_ ,
C: Yeah .
B: maybe even better .
B: So D: I mean this were the points which we got from the market demands .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah . Yeah yeah .
D: So
B: Yeah .
C: So I th I I C: well I think we we can focus on the uh on the fancy look
C: on the uh
B: Yeah .
B: More on a fancy design .
D: Yeah that's fine .
D: Yeah .
C: on the speech recognition if the technology is available
D: I mean that's B: Yeah .
C: but well I think L_C_D_ will uh will uh make us spend a lot of money for not so big results .
B: Mm .
B: Remember we have a s budget for the cost of producing the remote controller .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: But A: Yeah .
B: Yeah . So i is D: Uh yeah we have uh A: B: so the thing is you can find out how much an L_C_D_ will cost
B: and then we'll decide again . D: I mean that should be found out by the Industrial Designers . C: A: B: Uh maybe you can find out the price and tell us next time .
C: So price of uh L_C_D_ display .
B: Is i if i
B: Yeah .
D: And it's always good to have an voice recognition for the remote controls .
C: And B: Yeah .
B: And also the cost for the speech recognition .
A: Mm . It's for C: Yeah .
B: Ask our R_ and D_ department .
A: it's just for small vocabulary .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah it's o only for a limited vocabulary ,
A: We it's not B: Yeah .
A: yeah .
D: say eighty commands or so .
B: And ho
A: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah okay .
B: And also the scroller button , how much will it cost . C: And C: Well uh compared to the to s the simpl simpler simplest button .
A: Yeah . Push push .
D: Mm , the scroll button ,
D: from the survey we never see that people would like to have some scrolling button .
C: Yeah . Yeah I think that D: Because they they just they're just frightened to use the scrollings or help button .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah I I I think that uh well uh as we have seen in the in the presentation uh well uh about uh uh fifty percent of the of the percent n choose the button
B: Don't use the buttons .
C: so uh I think to have uh five uh simple button is sufficient for our functionality .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah . Yeah .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: It doesn't mean that the other buttons are not necessary or important .
D: B: Important .
C: Yeah . But A: But they are just less used compar
D: They're not used much .
A: yeah .
C: But the uh the thing is is i is that we can add a functionality on the on the T_V_ screen
C: like uh a a list of function
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah . Mm .
C: and then you choose with the with the button to well you navigate
B: Yeah , yeah .
C: and you B: So so the at most more power uh .
A: Or maybe we can u uh or maybe we can uh make this the ten percent of button more bigger than the others .
C: Yeah .
A: So .
D: C: But if i i if we if we could have a a a display uh g a user interface that is very complete on the T_V_ screen I think that just five buttons are sufficient ,