B: Yeah ,
B: then you you paint it in the colour you want it .
D: Yeah .
C: Mm .
B: The plastic is is the colour you want it .
D: Paint spray .
C: Mm .
D: Yeah alright .
B: So  Yeah .
D: So ,
A: Alright .
D: we're going for a titanium back and a plastic front ?
A: I've uh C: Yeah ,
B: Mm .
C: I think that's a nice trade-off .
A: Titanium back , plastic front .
A: Okay .
A: Um well I am going to put it in here ,
A: uh because we can uh look .
D: Yeah , great .
B: Yeah .
A: I Um solid feel and trendy look .
C: Alright .
A: So material , um hard plastic
C: Yeah , for the front
A: for the front ?
C: and then titanium for the back .
D: Yeah .
C: For the non-removable uh part .
D: But then you have the problem , when you have a titanium back , you can't switch it .
D: When you want an other colour on the front , it doesn't match .
C: Well but  D: You know ?
B: Well titanium is neutral . C: The titan titanium isn't isn't v very C: Yeah , i it doesn't uh curves .
D: I understand .
A: B:  C: No uh I nei . Titanium is very C: No no no ,
C: but you know b Titanium is very basic colour ,
D: Yeah , yeah , yeah . Yeah .
C: and it doesn't really matter if we have a purple front on it or a orange front .
B: Hmm .
B: Yeah .
D: Alright .
C: I dunno if if you disagree ,
B: Well C: but I think it's doesn't matter very much .
D: Yeah . Alright .
B: Our customers will use those uh funky uh trendy colours ,
D: Funky customers .
B: and they don't use uh wood .
C: And even if it does uh doesn't match , it will uh People like mm colours that don't match .
B: Mm . Yeah . D: Alright . A: Okay . And well
A: the the electrical cable is just normal uh . C: Cop copper uh material .
B: Yeah .
C: Excuse me ?
D: C: B: The electrical cable uh does A: It's uh from uh our coffee uh C: Yeah copper i just a ba basic uh B: No we don't use an electrical cable .
A:  B: Yeah inside ,
B: but this is for the coffee uh machine .
C: Yeah in A: C: Yeah well inside the remote control we use a couple of uh A: Of course .
B: Yeah ,
B: but that's not what's meant here , I think . D: Nei .
C: D: So external .
B: C: Oh external ?
D: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: Well  A coffee grind doesn't have C: Na ja . Never mind the coffee grind .
A: Well uh
D: A: all the all the inside work of our remote is uh standard work .
A: So  C: Right ?
D: A: The chip is normal silicon .
C: A: Uh the buttons are normal , etcetera .
D: A: Okay ?
C: Alright . Mm-hmm .
A: So that's just easy .
A: Uh we decide about that just by looking at our competitors and our earlier uh remotes .
A: The conceptual specification of the user interface ?
A: Um well we have our beautiful drawing .
D: Alright .
B: Well I got a better one here
B: and I will um A: Well you can put that in uh into the shared folder ,
B: The shared folder .
A: and then I'll put it in our end report .
B: I will work this out uh for the uh next meeting .
A: Yes ,
A: you can A: Mm yeah . You can uh put some uh which button is what .
D: B: Yeah yeah yeah .
A: Okay . Um
A: the trend-watching A: included these days .
B: A: And what do we ?
A: We thing that fruit and bright colours are C: Yeah the the the front w
D: I think we can launch a couple of packages .
D: You can buy a different kind of of of machine ,
B: Yeah .
D: but it's the same thing , but with another front .
A: Yes .
C: Mm-hmm .
D: So A: We can also uh implement um we can also implement fronts from um movies that are very hot .
B: Yeah
B: that's the whole idea of the front .
D: And you can you can C: Yeah . Yeah .
A: Uh those kind of things .
B: Yes .
D: Yeah right .
B: But that's for later on .
B: The fronts y you can do anything with them .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah but if you if you launch uh five different packages like iPod mini B: Yeah , right B: For the uh initiative uh launch .
D: Yeah .
C: For the for the launch , yeah .
D: It's good marketing .
B: Mm .
A: Launch different lines at once .
C: So e th then a c couple of basic colours .
C: Not not very uh sim Not  D: Yeah ,
D: n not too heavy .
D: You can always take another pick . C: Yeah .
A: We should not give them the m the most lovely front when they buy it for the first time .
D: They have to buy it later on .
C: Yeah .
B: Oh yeah .
A: Yeah .  D: Yeah right .
B: Yeah . Yeah .
A: Come on . D: More basic .
A: We still have to make those fifty million , yeah ? .
D: Yeah .  C: Very boring , yeah .
B: Well you can you can give them uh s s three or so ,
C: The most boring fronts possible .
A: The most ugly .
B: so that they can uh experiment with it
B: and that they want more .
D: Yeah , right .
A: Two .
C: Yeah but you you can have some basic colours ,
C: and then we come with the special patterns on them ,
B: Red red , blue and green you give them or something ,
C: and and uh A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: And uh B: and then you can give them uh other ones .
A: Yeah . Alright .
A: Um well the buttons etcetera , we get from Mike .
A: Uh this fruit and bright colours ,
A: yeah well I think we'll have to in the next uh half an hour , we'll have to uh s s specify the different uh types we want to launch , when we uh well introduce our remote .
C: Uh we still have to make We have still have to make the es the the real basic design .
C: Because yeah we have the sketch but D: Yeah .
D: But we we must remember that fancy look-and-feel is the most important thing .
A: Yes .
D: Else it w won't sell .
C: D: So A: Yes .
C: Alright , yeah .
A: Well I'll have to ,
A: before I get another warning for five minutes , I'm going to get A: Where is my mouse ?
A: Uh where is my mouse ? C: D: Lost my mouse . B: A: Oh yeah . A: Um this is it .
C:  D: Unbelievable . A: A: Well , um this we have .
D: Yeah .
A: Uh basic stuff .
A: Interface we have . Supplements , L_C_D_ .
A: Maybe a a cheap voice recording .
A: Well B: Yeah we should do that .
C: The price ?
A: Yes . Alright .
A: Individual actions .
C: We all agree on that . Yeah .
B: Mm .
A: Industry designer , . User Interface , Mike . You're going to work together on a prototype drawing on the SMARTboard .
B: Yeah ,
B: we can do that .
C: Together or uh C: Yeah together .
D: Yeah togeth A: That's what I got uh to hear .
C: How C: Yeah yeah , but how do I B: But bu we stay we stay here or something ?
A: Yes
A: well we'll get it to hear that I think .
C: A: But I think so .
D: You can take the SMARTboard . A: Th they're saying SMARTboard and that's it B: Ah right . A: This is the SMARTboard , so B: And take it to our rooms
B: and uh  A: Um so you can uh you you are going to make a prototype ,
A: and y Well that's includes uh specifying the buttons etcetera .
B: Ah ,
B: specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach . A: Yeah .
A: So you'll get it on your em on your laptop .
A: Um well you will go and do something else uh on the project D: Have fun .
C: Some Some non functional tasks .
B: A: yeah project evaluation .
A: So um D: 'Kay .
A: , what are you going to do ?
A: Uh I don't know what product evaluation exactly means ,
A: but uh you'll get uh the specifications .
D: We don't have produ product yet ,
D: so kind of difficult . A: Yeah .
A: That's why I uh A: But uh C: You're fired . D: B: C: No but  A: How long do we still have ? C: Well , can we talk about something else ? Uh  A: Yeah . C: Uh no I don't know anything ,
D: Ajax . Nah .
C: but maybe uh anyone else uh B: Yeah . Um C: Yeah ?
B: Will we use uh round buttons or square ones for the for the numbers ?
D: Um round .
C: Round I think .
D: Yeah . Round .
B: Yeah I I I also uh thought Yeah .
C: To make it as uh as round as possible .
B: And these uh these s these buttons uh are more uh triangle-ish shaped
A: Why does D: Curvy . Yeah .
D: So you can see you have to up or down .
B: with a square one in the middle .
A: Ah f fuck you .
B: Yeah . Yeah .
C: But now I see the  D: And this must be uh volume I think ,
A: Heh ?
D: and this programme .
B: Mm .
A: A: We can't get B: Well most of the time uh up and down is programme
B: and left and right are volume , I think .
C: Well th th th th th that depends uh .
D: Yeah . B: Yeah , it depends , but C: Well we uh B: If you turn up the volume , you always see this thingy go up . C: We we j we'll just give them an uh D: Yeah , that's right .
C: We'll design it ,
C: and then they can give comments on it .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah alright .
D: Yeah . Okay .
A: Ts
A: It doesn't work any more .
A: We can't save them .
A: So we'll just have them uh standing there .
D: Yeah , I noticed .
D: You can't uh click the corners .
A: No . B: A: It's a bit uh bit a pity .
D: It's a real real great thing .
A: Well we still have uh more than five minutes .
A: Um C: A: So A: what are we going to do ?
A: A: I as Project Manager ha don't have a clue . D: Let's start the design .
A: Oh we can uh decide how we implement the feeling from our company into the remote .
C: Well yeah . Um I think um a logo , our company logo , and the slogan should be or could be B: Mm .
A: Also the slogan ? On the C: Yeah , why not ? C: If there's enough space , you can put uh B: Uh I I'd say only the logo .
C: We'll we'll D: O
D: Yeah . Me too .
B: Too much text and it gets too too busy .
C: Well , our slogan is not very long .
C: It's just a simple C: What is it ? B: Well it's quite a long phrase .
A: We put the fashion in electronics .
A: We put the fashion in electronics .
D: But we kree we keep adjusting to the fashion with our fronts . So  C: You c C: But you can put it on the back ,
C: on the titanium part .
C: The logo and the and the D: Yeah , right .
B: Ah the logo should be on the top I think .
D: The logo A: On the top . Yeah .
A: Well in in in the right top corner ?
C: Yeah they do . Well yeah .
D: Yeah .
B: Right corner , yes .
A: And well you c
C: Right corner ,
A: On the back , you can put uh h At the bottom , you can put the logo with the C: or maybe here in the middle ?
B: uh the text ?
A: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
D: But the logo the logo shouldn't be exchangeable , when you get off the front .
A: Just just small .
B: Uh yeah , at the back ?
C: Yeah
C: it it should be hard on the on the on the board ,
B: Well you c Well uh Yes .
A: Yeah well D: Yeah . Yeah .
C: and you can remove the front .
B: You can B: The logo can be on on every uh front .
D: Yeah ,
D: but you can scratch it off or something .
D: It's better if you have it uh B: Yeah , but then you must uh really uh yeah push it in or something .
A: Carved into the material .
A: No ,
A: you you can carve it into the titanium at the back .
C: I l I like the idea of the of the slogan on the on the on the thing .
B: C: But am I the only one , or uh B: Yeah , on the backside .
A: Well , management would like it . B: Well n n not not on the front side , I think .
A: The front side , no no l no slogan .
C: No not on the front ,
C: but on the backside . Uh B: On the back Yes , you you can , yeah , push that in ,
A: Sorry .
B: so that it is always be there .
C: I think it's a nice idea , to make it more recognisable ,
D: Yeah .
C: that the next to the logo you have the slogan .
B: Yeah .
D: I agree .
C: To make more uh of an impression .
D: But not too big .
D: Just uh C: Not too big . No ,
C: very small .
C: Not on the entire back ,
D: Yeah .
D: C: but uh just very small .
C: But readable enough of course .
D: Okay .
A: Yes , slogan from company on the back with logo
C: But we'll uh we'll take that uh with us into the design .
B: Yeah I think over here the logo .  C: Lo Uh yeah .
C: Or maybe here in the middle ,
C: but we'll decide later .
A: and logo also on the front
A: but not exchange uh Uh ? Hmm ?  Uh when changing fronts .
D:   A: Alright , that's decided .
C: Do you do you see a bit of the of the um of the uh titanium ? O on the front ?
A: Five minutes left .
C: Uh maybe if we make this this this lower part titanium ,
B: Yes
B: we could C: the front is the the upper part ,
C: and the the bit with the with the L_C_D_ screen . So A: So a bit of titanium between ?
C: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: No no betwe
C: of between
A: That's a bit Oh that that's that's pretty cool .
C: we can do
C: but But then you have two parts of front , two fronts that B: No , they have two fronts ,
D: No no no no .
B: that . You you can D: You have to make this titanium too .
A: No ?
B: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah .
C: This enti entire bottom ?
D: Else you you get problems with the L_C_D_ .
B: Yeah .
A: Yes .
D: Like dust in it and so things like that .
B: Yeah .
D: When you exchange all the fronts and it's open .
C: A: I already have uh all kinds of uh filth between the mobile .
B: No , you can you can just And then not a straight line but uh some sort of wave or something .
C: And then the lower part is titanium ?
B: This is titanium .
C: I think that's nice , yeah .
D: Yeah . Some some kind of wei weight in it . Yeah .
B: And this is uh A: Yeah . Round forms .
B: F front .
C: Yeah .
C: I like that bit of uh titanium also on the uh B: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
B: With the with the curved edge .
A: Yep .
C: A bit like uh a bit like your mobile phone .
C: Maybe you can show it .
B: Yeah .
C: It also has the those two distinct uh B: Yeah .
D: A: B:  Tada .
C: Mm bit like this .
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah ,
C: Uh it's uh D: you can make it go round this corner too where the logo is .
D: Because it has to be uh there all the time you know .
A: What ? C: Yeah yeah . B: Ah .
C: That uh C: Yeah . Maybe a nice touch , yeah .
A: So round where ?
D: So uh a little corner of titanium .
B: Yeah ,
B: that's nice finishing touch you need .
A: Oh , yeah .
A: Yes , that also sounds uh pretty uh neat .
C: D: So this this is the exchangeable part .
C: I think I'm going to buy it .
A: We want it .
B: Yeah , this is the front .
A: And it's only f twenty five Euros .
D: A: Come on .
C: That's a bit too much , but C: No , no no no ,
A: No that's nothing .
C: but I think uh this looks uh pretty nice actually .
A: The Phillips remote uh costs more . C: Of course , because it's my design but D: Right .
C: No our d our design , alright .
B: My design . D: Taking all the credit . A: Well uh you two are going to work together .
A: You'll get your uh specifications on your uh laptop ,
A: and then uh you uh B: Yeah .
B: We'll stay here I guess ?
D: But there's a problem .
D: We can't uh take a blank one .
D: Or can we ?
A: Well I think we can ,
A: I just  It's B: Well we can uh erase an animal I guess .
D: Yeah . Nah that's alright , that's alright .
B: Uh the fourth one .
C: But don't erase my cat .
D: A: Yeah , o
B: Uh the fourth one is empty , isn't it ?
D: B: Yeah .
A: Oh  C: I want to preserve it .
A:  B: D: This one is empty .
B: Yeah .
C: D: You have to empty one huh ?
A: Oh , we have a one . D: C: What are you doing chief ?
A: So , you can uh draw a Yeah .
D: Alright .
B: Yeah I think we have to wait ?
A: Well I'll get a I'll get the message .
C: Yeah
D: No C: until the until the beep goes .
B:  C: But I don't uh Do we have to stay here ,
D: C: or I think we have to return first .
A: No , I think uh D: Yeah .
A: Well you'll A: Maybe you can uh keep your uh laptop here . B: Maybe .
A: Or get your mouse .
A: Because it's little bit uh hard to work with these uh plates .
C: The high powers from above will have to tell us , yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: It's not relaxing .
A: I always have a mouse next to my laptop .
A: I hate these D: I I don't have a laptop .
C: Yeah , touch-pads , yeah .
A: Ugh .
C: We can uh do a touch-pad on our remote .
B: A: D: Yeah right .
C: No just kidding .
B: Yeah . D: Dream on . C: Well we have uh b you have to have a bit of humour in the in the discussions too ,
C: because it becomes too too too too stressy .
A: And in your remote control .
A: So we put a touch pad on it ,
A: and say ha ha .
C: B: Aha . This has no function . D: Half
A: Yeah .