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D: English from now on . C:  . D: Drawing or A: Yeah just testing .
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C: Just kidding .
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C: So annoying .
A: Break is over .
D: Ooh it works .
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D: Spicy .
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D: Where are are all the other presentations ?
C: I just put it in the in the shared folder so it should be D: The conceptual or C: yeah I think so . Yeah , conceptual design .
D: Ah . Because I see only my own presentation  C: What or whatever does it C: No no no ,
B: C: can you go back one ?
D: yeah .
C: Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre
C: yeah components design , that's it .
D: This ?
D: I'll just put it in there .
A: So , he's coming .
C: . I did get a bit more done than the last time ,
D: Or not .
B: Okay .
A: Oh okay .
C: 'cause I knew that I didn't have time so I just copy and paste everything into the B: D: Ah ,
D: I can't cut and paste it into the other folder but A: Ah . She .
A: You can look at the final report ,
A: 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such ,
A: so I'm trying to write it down between everything else .
D: Move to meeting room .
C: Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there ,
D: Yeah .
A: Oh .
C: and also with I don't know how to use PowerPoint , so it takes me forever to get something done with it .
D: Yeah me too , .
D:  B: I I've got the same problem as well . A: C: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
A: Here we go again .
A: Welcome .
A: Uh we have again three presentations and then we have to decide on what concepts the mobile phone has to uh f the remote control has to support .
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A: So who wants go .
C: Mm-hmm .
D: Yes .
C: Who wants to start ?
A: Yes ?
D: Me first again or A: Yeah sure . Doesn't matter .
B: Oh . No . Yeah . No problem
D: yeah . Alright .
D: Did you open it already or A: No .
D: no . Ah .
D: Ah .
D: Yes .
D: So welcome to the marketing presentation once again .
D: Um this time about trendwatching .
D: Uh well there has been inv investigation again , in the in the remote control market .
D: Uh it shows a number of developments .
D: Uh I will address them uh in a moment .
D: Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public , because that's our public .
D: Um well
D: fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing , uh shoes and furniture .
D: And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey .
D: So um the developments I will address them A: D: oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours .
D: So to give you an idea .
D: Um well the developments ?
D: Uh development one .
D: Uh well
D: most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel . Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel .
D: Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface .
D: And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative .
D: Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls .
D: I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um and speech recognition ,
C: Sound .
D: so I don't expect that to be a problem .
C: Yeah yeah uh uh .
D: And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use .
D: Um D: Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect .
D: So um that kind of gets you this ratios .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention .
A: .
D: Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material .
D: Um well technolog technological innovation , we've covered that pretty much I guess .
D: Um and easy to use , I don't think that will be problem .
D: So my point of attention is especially this part .
D: That this will be a crux .
C: Yeah .
D: So that was the marketing uh presentation .
D: I had only one document left .
C: And shall I go first ?
B: Yeah . No . I I don't mi I don't mind .
C: So I B: That's D: So kind of this A: Yeah yeah sure . No .
C: Yeah ?
B: Do you want to go first ? Okay .
D: So a k a small example .
B: Yeah .
D: Kind of this this look .
B: D: Uh nothing about the buttons but just sponge kind of thing , and and some fruit and colours
B: Yeah .
D: I dunno .
D: Just made a quick design .
B: A: Cool .
B: It's better than than my uh drawing . D: Alright .
A: Yeah you're just the user interface hmm ?
C: Alright .
D: B: Yeah okay but I have to design the C: Uh components .
A: Yeah layout .
B: Yeah .
C: Oh no .
A: Yeah okay .
D: Yeah . It's okay .
A: You probably opened it .
C: Yeah true . Um A: F_ five .
D: F_ five .
D: C: Alright . So C: I'm dealing with the components design .
C: Um let's see .
C: I uh used some design examples we had uh from similar products .
C: And I used uh possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design .
C: That's why I had to , wanted to go first .
C: Well they gave me um an idea about what people want .
C: We're f mainly focusing on this group , but I want to make the distinction clear .
C: Uh I could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so I don't have examples of how it looks like .
C: But it comes down to what you uh what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking uh type .
C: If you , the young dynamic people want soft primary colours uh , which looks like fruits you know , you can C: and shapes that are curved and not uh solid straight lines anymore .
C: So this basically um yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier .
C: There is a lot of um factors involved in choosing the components .
B: A: C: There's a lot of options that we have to discuss .
C: Uh for example the energy source . we have four types .
C: The basic battery .
C: Uh we have a hand dynamo ,
C: which we yeah we Dutch refer to it as the kneipgatt .
A: Yeah .
C: Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing , if you shake it .
A: C: Which will be fun for toddlers right , if they wanna use the A: D: Yeah .
C: And uh of course solar cells .
C: But I dunno how we would use that into the design of the actual product .
D: Wi an indoors .
C: So uh my D: Oh .
A: Yeah okay .
C: yeah also also in you know countries where there's n isn't much light like in Scandinavia , they wouldn't be y able to use it half of the year you know .
A: Calculator's can do it .
B: D: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: So that's not cool either .
A: Mm-hmm .
C: So um C: for the uh a case , there's uh the traditional uncurved flat hard case .
C: Single curved , which means that it has uh curves in one dimension .
C: Or the double curved .
C: Um I wasn't able to finish my uh personal preferences sheet ,
C: but well you know that we will have to go for the double curved 'cause it's daring and different from what we have now .
D: Yeah .
C: Uh the case materials .
C: Well we have all kinds of hard uh materials like the the hard plastic , the wood and the titanium .
C: I would definitely go for rubber
C: 'cause it fits most in what people wanna see nowadays .
D: Yeah .
C: Um poo ,
C: this is a lot of text .
C: I wasn't able to organise this yet .
C: We have yeah several uh interface designs .
C: Uh we can use a scroll buttons for the menus ,
C: but we already kind of decided to go for the f for the pushbuttons , for the the arrow buttons .
B: Yeah . Pushbuttons .
B: Yeah .
C: So that's not really interesting .
D: Yeah .
C: Electronics ?
C: Yeah , C: maybe we wanna decide on what electronics to use C: the advanced chip I think is easiest to implement uh for the production , 'cause they they can print it better .
C: Um C: Yeah . I think this is about it .
C: Yeah I was working on some per personal preferences .
C: I first uh chose for the battery , 'cause yeah I'm traditional and that's the most obvious , easiest choice to go to .
C: But I really think that we should maybe uh think about the kinetic energy ,
C: where you have to move the thing to be able to use it .
B: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
B: As an optional uh feature .
D: Yeah .
B: Or combine uh both with a with one uh
D: I guess we can only choose one .
A: Uh I think you can only fit one uh source of energy on the C: Yeah maybe we B: Okay .
C: I can imagine that the kinetic uh type energy source would be more expensive to make .
C: But it is more longlasting , that the people don't have to ever buy batteries again .
D: Yeah . And it's more fun .
A: Yeah
A: I didn't receive any info uh .
C: And it's also more fun yeah .
C: I always chuck my uh remote control around , so D: Yeah , just playing with it
A: Yeah .
D: and especially when the material's rubber . It can be done , I mean , you can't harm it ,
A: S yeah it's safe .
B: And throw it .
C: Yeah y exactly .
D: so it's a perfect combination I guess .
C: You don't have to be scared about bouncing it off the g floor and breaking it or whatever .
B: D: Yeah .
B: Okay .
C: So that's the end of it .
B: Yeah .
D: So C: Uh go ahead .
A: 'Kay next .
D: So double curved is like this , this , this , or C: No it means curved in two dimensions .
C: So uh w single curved ? Uh let's say would be a b square box , but then with curves on one dimension .
D: Mm .
D: Yeah .
C: And double curved would means that it would have curves curves in every direction . Like three D_ . Yeah .
D: Also in in height ?
A: Uh D: Yeah okay .
A: Okay .
B: Yeah .
A: Can we uh B: One one uh very important thing I was uh yeah thinking about is the speech uh option .
B: We were going to use that .
A: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: So um  B: Yeah um
B: yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the remote control .
C: Design ?
A: Well the visual representation is not there with speech
B: No okay but it has to be combined with with the menu uh for functions and A: but you can A: Yeah .
B: So okay .
A: Just yeah .
A: I think you can just uh match the speech commands with the functions that are already present .
B: Yeah .
B: Okay .
A: So I don't think you have to design anything else for that .
D: Yeah with the programme .
B: But do uh j do we uh do the speech just for the basic options , for the simple buttons ?
A: Both .
B: For for everything ,
B: also for the advanced options ? Okay .
A: Yeah .
B: Uh we have this very uh basic uh trendy design .
B: Everybody says it so that's what's uh B: yeah um B: Yeah
B: in the in the last uh meeting we uh we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated .
B: That's yeah obvious .
B: Um yeah .
B: Pressing the the menu option uh will disable uh all other options on your uh remote control .
B: And only the the L_C_D_ panel will uh light up and then you can only uh change the yeah the options .
D: And and the and the buttons that you need to control it , I guess .
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
B: Um yeah
B: design has to be very attractive
B: but that's your your op your yeah .
A: B:  you have to uh delete this
B: but this is the the the simple uh layout .
A: Yeah .
B: Uh display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button .
A: That would be the back .
B: I'm B: The back .
D: Yeah .
A: Back and okay .
D: Back and okay .
B: Back and okay yeah .
B: Uh A: You did read the minutes I wrote ?
B: What ?
A: You did read the minutes I wrote ?
B: A little bit I think but not not everything w
C: I A: Oh okay
A: 'cause I pretty much summed up all the buttons there were . So B: Okay .
B: Oh I uh didn't read that .
A: I hate doing work for nothing . B: But D: B: But this is the the basic uh design uh for the for the m yeah for the buttons .
B: Um B: I wanted to to categorise everything .
B: Uh with a speech display uh yeah , sound , everything you you noted in your uh minutes .
B: Um every pushbutton has uh has its own uh LED light .
B: So you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous so that's an a also an option .
B: Um that was it .
A: That was it ?
B: Yeah .
A: Okay . Uh A: again . Ugh .
A: A: Okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use ?
A: Uh energy source , chip type , case type . And user interface .
A: But I didn't see a clear distinction between these so I think what we have is okay .
A: So we only , we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy .
D: No .
A: Uh the case would be doubly curved . So D: Rubber material .
C: And rubber . Rubber material .
A: Rubber material .
A: And that's the only thing we have left .
C: Yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and uh and f audio function .
A: Oh okay . No it's easy . D: So that's uh D: is that is that the advanced chip ? C: Yeah . Yeah .
A: Advanced chip . Okay .
D: Wow .
C: Otherwise you would have a simple chip , just for pressing buttons . But we need more .
D: Yeah .
D: Alright .
D: Kinetic . Double curved .
C: I'm just thinking , this is not my department , but I I'm not sure what this is gonna cost ,
A: Too .
C: to be able to m
A: Uh I didn't get any info on this . So D: .
C: So 'cause we need to sell it for twenty five Euro a piece .
A: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: That's gonna be difficult huh ?
D: The cost of making it should be twelve and a half ?
A: I have total here .
C: Yeah .
D: C: Yeah yeah yeah .
A: Yeah I don't know .
A: I didn't get any information about that so B: .
B: We're going to produce it in uh China so it's no problem .
A: Yeah .
C: Child labour man , we love it .
B: D: Yeah , so it's cheap .
A: Who doesn't .
A: Uh let's see . Is there a new thing ?
D: Um well the interface type supplements .
A: Yeah the interface ,
A: maybe can B: Uh it's it's quite difficult because we we haven't got all the options uh yeah .
A: Ooh .
A: No .
A: Uh do you have a picture of doubly curved case ?
A: And could you put that in the group folder ? Of the project folder .
C: Um let me see .
C: Wait a sec .
D: If you go to your homepage or something , you should
C: Yeah I'm going there now .
D: get your own information .
C: Inspiration .
D: I got my fresh and fyoo fruity uh picture uh also uh over there , so A: Ah you didn't draw it yourself .
B: C: Well D: No .
A: Ah .
D: Too less time .
C: Um D: Yeah , also the menu .
C: yeah maybe it's D: Yeah that that w
B: Yeah .
B: This is the the menu I was uh looking uh at .
D: Yeah . Yeah I was thinking of that also , with with a with a uh arrow .
C: Maybe it's easier B: Yeah .
A: Arrow .
B: Arrow yeah .
D: So that indicates that there's an menu under that menu .
A: Yeah .
C: Yeah . Yeah perfect .
D: So B: Yeah .
A: .
C: Maybe it's easier if you guys come over here .
A: 'S the target group .
B: S yeah .
C: S see this is the the the standard traditional type , where the form uh yeah serves the function , you know .
D: Oh yeah .
A: Yeah sure . C: It's like really basic .
C: But this m is more appealing to old people and we don't want that .
A: Yeah . D: Yeah .
C: This is what we're looking for .
C: And th that means curved in both dire dire uh dimensions .
A: Oh okay . I see .
C: Not only like this but it has to be A: Yeah also like this . So you can hold it .
C: exactly .
C: It has to be kind of instead of the PlayStation , the module . It has to be like the the Game Cube , you know ,
C: where your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to be nice to hold . And B: Yeah .
B: But it has also to B: it it has also to be uh luxurous uh for for yeah rich people .
B: Th this looks a little bit like like for only for children . So C: It ha
A: .
A: The children's story . Yeah I've got it .
C: Yeah but that's that's the the problem uh yeah the dilemma actually ,
A: Distinction . Yeah .
C: 'cause we wanna appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colours , and with a lot of shape .
C: And C: Yeah , and the and the rubber , it it will look cheap always ,
B: Yeah .
B: The colour B: Yeah .
B: Okay but the the colours , you you can make it uh make the colours with LEDs uh beneath the the buttons .
C: you know , with the B: If you press a button and you can disable the the colour LEDs for for people that don't like it .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: Mm .
C: There is mobile phones , in which you can change the colour also of the lights .
B: Yeah .
C: Maybe we should consider this function .
A: Mm-hmm .
C: To customise it and so C: I mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colours
B: Yeah .
C: and people who want something , you know , different , or more uh design , they can go for one colour
A: Different .
A: Mm-hmm .
C: like uh for example this uh photo th camera .
A: Camera .
D: Yeah . Cool .
D: S underwater uh  A: Yeah submarine . D: yeah .
C: Personally I think it's really ugly .
A: Well D: B: Yeah .
C: Just give me the thing that it's inside there D: Yeah .
C: maybe I'm too old for this stuff .
B: Very cheap uh cheap look .
A: Yeah but this this the is for the .
C: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: Okay .
C: So those I think are all my A: Uh D: .
C: oh .
A: Ah yeah bright colours .
D: Yeah . Also a kind of rubber uh C: And this is , this is with the curved that I mean .
D: Yeah .
A: That's singly curved .
C: Yeah . Yeah ?
A: Okay .
D: That should be nice .
A: Well we could make a compromise between that .
A: But I don't know if it's worth the effort .
C: A compromise between what ?
A: Uh instead of doubly curved we take a single curved . So to appeal a little more to the all the public .