Professor D: that 's that 's that 's the one that we videotape . So . Um , I I wanna move this along . Uh I did have this other agenda item which is , uh @ @ it 's uh a list which I sent to uh a couple folks , but um I wanted to get broader input on it , So this is the things that I think we did in the last three months obviously not everything we did but but sort of highlights that I can  can tell s some outside person , you know , what what were you actually working on . Um in no particular order uh , one , uh , ten more hours of meeting r meetings recorded , something like that , you know from from , uh three months ago . Uh XML formats and other transcription aspects sorted out and uh sent to IBM . Um , pilot data put together and sent to IBM for transcription , uh next batch of recorded data put together on the CD - ROMs for shipment to IBM ,
Grad H: Hasn't been sent yet , but It 's getting ready .
Professor D: But yeah , that 's why I phrased it that way , yeah OK . Um human subjects approval on campus , uh and release forms worked out so the meeting participants have a chance to request audio pixelization of selected parts of the spee their speech . Um audio pixelization software written and tested . Um  preliminary analysis of overlaps in the pilot data we have transcribed , and exploratory analysis of long - distance inferences for topic coherence , that was I was  wasn't sure if those were the right way  that was the right way to describe that because of that little exercise that that you {comment} and and Lokendra did .
Postdoc F: What was that called ?
Professor D: I well , I I 'm probably saying this wrong , but what I said was exploratory analysis of long - distance inferences for topic coherence .
Postdoc F: The , uh say again ?
Professor D: Something like that . Um so , uh I   a lot of that was from , you know , what what what you two were doing so I I sent it to you , and you know , please mail me , you know , the corrections or suggestions for changing
Grad H: Mm - hmm .
Professor D: I I don't want to make this twice it 's length but  but you know , just im improve it . Um Is there anything anybody Grad H: I I did a bunch of stuff for supporting of digits .
Professor D: " Bunch of stuff for s " OK , maybe maybe send me a sentence that 's a little thought through about that .
Grad H: So , OK , I 'll send you a sentence that doesn't just say " a bunch of " ?
Professor D: " Bunch of stuff " , yeah , " stuff " is probably bad too ,
Grad H: Yep . " Stuff " is not very technical .
Professor D: Yeah , well .
Grad H: I 'll try to phrase it in passive voice .
Professor D: Yeah . Yeah , yeah ,
PhD A: Technical stuff .
Professor D: " range of things " , yeah . Um and and you know , I sort of threw in what you did with what Jane did on in under the , uh uh preliminary analysis of overlaps . Uh uh Thilo , can you tell us about all the work you 've done on this project in the last , uh last three months ?
PhD E: Yeah .
PhD C: So what is what Um . Not really .
Professor D: That 's PhD A: It 's too complicated .
PhD C: Um , I didn't get it . Wh - what is " audio pixelization " ?
Professor D: Uh , audio pix wh he did it , so why don't you explain it quickly ?
Grad H: It 's just , uh beeping out parts that you don't want included in the meeting so , you know you can say things like , " Well , this should probably not be on the record , but beep "
PhD C: OK , OK . I got that .
Professor D: Yeah . We we we spent a a a fair amount of time early on just talk dealing with this issue about op w e e we realized , " well , people are speaking in an impromptu way and they might say something that would embarrass them or others later " , and , how do you get around that
PhD C: OK .
Professor D: so in the consent form it says , well you we will look at the transcripts later and if there 's something that you 're unhappy with , yeah .
PhD C: OK , and you can say OK .
Professor D: But you don't want to just totally excise it because um uh , well you have to be careful about excising it , how how you excise it keeping the timing right and so forth so that at the moment tho th the idea we 're running with is is h putting the beep over it .
PhD C: OK .
Grad H: Yeah , you can either beep or it can be silence . I I couldn't decide . which was the right way to do it .
PhD E: Ah , yeah .
Grad H: Beep is good auditorily ,
PhD C: Yeah .
Grad H: if someone is listening to it , there 's no mistake that it 's been beeped out ,
PhD C: Yeah .
Grad H: but for software it 's probably better for it to be silence .
PhD A: No , no . You can you know , you could make a m as long as you keep using the same beep , people could make a model of that beep ,
Postdoc F: Hmm .
PhD A: and Postdoc F: I like that idea .
Grad H: Yep . And I use it 's it 's , uh it 's an A below middle C beep ,
PhD B: I think the beep is a really good idea .
PhD A: Yeah .
Postdoc F: It 's very clear . Then you don't think it 's a long pause .
PhD B: Also PhD A: Yeah , it 's more obvious that there was something there than if there 's just silence .
Grad H: so
PhD C: Yeah .
Postdoc F: Yeah .
Professor D: Yeah , that I mean , he 's he 's removing the old thing
PhD E: Yeah
Professor D: and and and Grad H: Yep .
PhD A: Yea - right . Right . But I mean if you just replaced it with silence , it 's not clear whether that 's really silence or Grad H: Yeah , it 's not PhD C: Yeah .
PhD E: Yeah .
Postdoc F: Yeah , I agree .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD E: Yeah .
Grad H: Yep .
Postdoc F: One one question . Do you do it on all channels ?
Grad H: Of course .
Postdoc F: Interesting . I like that .
Professor D: Yeah .
Postdoc F: Yeah , I like that .
Grad H: Yeah you have to do it on all channels because it 's , uh audible .
Postdoc F: Very clear . Very clear .
Grad H: Uh , it 's it 's potentially audible , you could potentially recover it .
Professor D: Ke - keep a back door .
Postdoc F: Well , the other thing that you know , I mean the the alternative might be to s
Grad H: Yeah . Well , I I haven't thrown away any of the meetings that I beeped . Actually yours is the only one that I beeped and then , uh the ar DARPA meeting .
PhD B: Notice how quiet I am .
Grad H: Sorry , and then the DARPA meeting I just excised completely ,
Postdoc F: Yeah .
Grad H: so it 's in a private directory .
PhD B: You have some people who only have beeps as their speech in these meetings .
Postdoc F: That 's great . Yeah .
Professor D: OK .
PhD A: They 're easy to find , then .
Professor D: Alright , so , uh I think we should , uh uh , go on to the digits ?
Postdoc F: I have one concept a t I I want to say , which is that I think it 's nice that you 're preserving the time relations ,
Grad H: OK .
Postdoc F: s so you 're you 're not just cutting you 're not doing scissor snips . You 're you 're keeping the , uh the time duration of a de - deleted deleted part .
Grad H: Right .
PhD B: Yeah , definitely .
Professor D: Yeah .
Postdoc F: OK , good , digits .
Grad H: Yeah , since we wanna possibly synchronize these things as well . Oh , I should have done that .
Postdoc F: It 's great .
Grad H: Shoot . Oh well .
PhD B: So I guess if there 's an overlap , like , if I 'm saying something that 's bleepable and somebody else overlaps during it they also get bleeped , too ?
Professor D: Yeah . Oh
Grad H: You 'll lose it . There 's no way around that .
Professor D: Yeah . Um I d I did before we do the digits , I did also wanna remind people , uh  please do send me , you know , uh thoughts for an agenda ,
Grad H: Agenda ?
Professor D: yeah that that would be that 'd be good .
Postdoc F: Good .
Professor D: Eh So that , uh , people 's ideas don't get
Grad H: Thursday crept up on me this week .
Professor D: yeah , well it does creep up , doesn't it ?
PhD B: And , I wanted to say , I think this is really interesting analysis .
Professor D: OK .
Postdoc F: Thank you .
Grad H: It 's cool stuff , definitely .
PhD B: I meant to say that before I started off on the Switchboard stuff .
Postdoc F: Thank you .
Grad H: I was gonna say " can you do that for the other meetings ,
PhD B: It 's neat .
Grad H: can you do it for them ? "
PhD B: Yeah .
Grad H: And , no actually , you can't .
PhD A: Actually actually I I thought that 's what you were giving us was another meeting and I was like , " Oh , OK ! "
PhD B: Does it take Postdoc F: Thank you . Yeah .
Grad H: " Ooo , cool ! "
Postdoc F: Aw , thanks .
PhD B: How long does it take , just briefly , like t to  OK . to label the ,
Postdoc F: No . I have the script now , so , I mean , it can work off the , uh other thing ,
Grad H: It 's As soon as we get labels , yep .
PhD B: OK .
PhD A: But it has to be hand - labeled first ?
Postdoc F: but Uh , well , yeah . Because , uh well , I mean once his his algorithm is up and running then we can do it that way .
Grad H: If it works well enough . Right now it 's not . Not quite to the point where it works .
PhD B: OK .
Postdoc F: But I I just worked off of my
PhD B: It 's really neat .
Professor D: OK , go ahead
Postdoc F: Thanks . Appreciate that . I think what I what this has , uh , caused me so this discussion caused me to wanna subdivide these further . I 'm gonna take a look at the , uh backchannels , how much we have anal I hope to have that for next time .
PhD A: That 'd be interesting .
Grad H: Yeah , my my algorithm worked great actually on these , but when you wear it like that or with the uh , lapel or if you have it very far from your face , that 's when it starts failing .
PhD A: Mm - hmm . Oh .
PhD B: Well , I can wear it , I mean if you Grad H: It doesn't matter .
PhD B: OK .
Grad H: I mean , we want it to work ,
PhD A: It 's too late now .
Grad H: right ? I I don't want to change the way we do the meeting .
PhD B: I feel like this troublemaker .
Grad H: It 's uh  so , it was just a comment on the software , not a comment on prescriptions on how you wear microphones .
PhD B: OK .
Professor D: OK , that 's let 's let 's let 's do digits .
Grad H: Get the bolts , " whh whh "
Postdoc F: Let 's do it . OK .
Grad H: OK .
PhD B: I 'm sorry .
Grad H: OK , thank you .
Postdoc F: Do you want us to put a mark on the bottom of these when they 've actually been read , or do you just i i the only one that wasn't read is is known , so we don't do it . OK .