Grad D: Let 's get started . The uh Should I go first , with the uh , um , data . Can I have the remote control . Thank you . OK . So . On Friday we had our wizard test data test and um these are some of the results . This was the introduction . I actually uh , even though Liz was uh kind enough to offer to be the first subject , I sort of felt that she knew too much , so I asked uh Litonya . just on the spur of the moment , and she was uh kind enough to uh serve as the first subject .
Professor B: Mm - hmm .
Grad D: So , this is what she saw as part of as uh for instr introduction , this is what she had to read aloud . Uh , that was really difficult for her and uh Grad C: Because of l all the names , you mean ?
Grad D: The names and um this was the uh first three tasks she had to to master after she called the system , and um then of course the system broke down , and those were the l uh uh I should say the system was supposed to break down and then um these were the remaining three tasks that she was going to solve , with a human Um . There are here are uh the results . Mmm . And I will not We will skip the reading now . D Um . And um . The reading was five minutes , exactly . And now comes the This is the phone - in phase of Grad C: Wait , can I I have a question . So . So there 's no system , right ? Like , there was a wizard for both uh both parts , is this right ?
Grad D: Yeah . It was bo it both times the same person .
Grad C: OK .
Grad D: One time , pretending to be a system , one time , to pretending to be a human , which is actually not pretending .
Grad C: OK . And she didn't Grad D: I should Grad C: I mean . Well . Isn't this kind of obvious when it says " OK now you 're talking to a human " and then the human has the same voice ?
Grad D: No no no . We u Wait . OK , good question , but uh you you just wait and see .
Grad C: OK .
Grad D: It 's You 're gonna l learn . And um the wizard sometimes will not be audible , Because she was actually they there was some uh lapse in the um wireless , we have to move her closer .
Grad A: Is she mispronouncing " Anlage " ? Is it " Anlaga " or " Anlunga "
Grad D: They 're mispronouncing everything ,
Grad A: OK .
Grad D: but it 's This is the system breaking down , actually . " Did I call Europe ? " So , this is it . Well , if we we um
Professor B: So , are are you trying to record this meeting ?
Grad D: There was a strange reflex . I have a headache . I 'm really sort of out of it . OK , the uh lessons learned . The reading needs to be shorter . Five minutes is just too long . Um , that was already anticipated by some people suggested that if we just have bullets here , they 're gonna not they 're subjects are probably not gonna going to follow the order . And uh she did not .
Grad C: Really ?
Grad D: She No .
Grad C: Oh , it 's surprising .
Grad D: She she jumped around quite a bit .
Professor B: S so if you just number them " one " , " two " , " three " it 's
Grad D: Yeah , and make it sort of clear in the uh Professor B: OK . Right .
Grad D: Um . We need to So that 's one thing . And we need a better introduction for the wizard . That is something that Fey actually thought of a in the last second that sh the system should introduce itself , when it 's called .
Professor B: Mm - hmm . True .
Grad D: And um , um , another suggestion , by Liz , was that we uh , through subjects , switch the tasks . So when when they have task - one with the computer , the next person should have task - one with a human , and so forth .
Professor B: Mm - hmm .
Grad D: So we get nice um data for that . Um , we have to refine the tasks more and more , which of course we haven't done at all , so far , in order to avoid this rephrasing , so where , even though w we don't tell the person " ask blah - blah - blah - blah - blah " they still try , or at least Litonya tried to um repeat as much of that text as possible .
Grad C: Say exactly what 's on there ? Yeah .
Grad D: And uh my suggestion is of course we we keep the wizard , because I think she did a wonderful job ,
Professor B: Great .
Grad D: in the sense that she responded quite nicely to things that were not asked for , " How much is a t a bus ticket and a transfer " so this is gonna happen all the time , we d you can never be sure .
Professor B: Mm - hmm .
Grad D: Um . Johno pointed out that uh we have maybe a grammatical gender problem there with wizard .
Grad A: Yes .
Grad D: So um .
Grad A: I wasn't wasn't sure whether wizard was the correct term for uh " not a man " .
Grad C: There 's no female equivalent of Grad D: But uh Grad A: Are you sure ?
Grad C: No , I don't know .
Professor B: Right .
Grad C: Not that I know of .
Grad D: Well , there is witch and warlock ,
Grad A: Yeah , that 's so @ @ .
Professor B: Right .
Grad C: Yeah , that 's what I was thinking , but Grad D: and uh Professor B: Right . Uh .
Grad D: OK . And um So , some some work needs to be done , but I think we can uh And this , and in case no you hadn't seen it , this is what Litonya looked at during the uh um while taking the while partaking in the data collection .
Grad C: Ah .
Professor B: OK , great . So first of all , I agree that um we should hire Fey , and start paying her . Probably pay for the time she 's put in as well . Um , do you know exactly how to do that , or is uh Lila I mean , you know what exactly do we do to to put her on the payroll in some way ?
Grad D: I 'm completely clueless , but I 'm willing to learn .
Professor B: OK . Well , you 'll have to . Right . So anyway , um
Grad D: N
Professor B: So why don't you uh ask Lila and see what she says about you know exactly what we do for someone in th
Grad D: Student - type worker ,
Professor B: Well , yeah she 's un she 's not a a student ,
Grad D: or ?
Professor B: she just graduated but anyway .
Grad D: Hmm .
Professor B: So i if Yeah , I agree , she sounded fine , she a actually was uh , more uh , present and stuff than than she was in conversation , so she did a better job than I would have guessed from just talking to her .
Grad D: Yeah .
Professor B: So I think that 's great .
Grad D: This is sort of what I gave her , so this is for example h how to get to the student prison ,
Professor B: Yeah .
Grad D: and I didn't even spell it out here and in some cases I I spelled it out a little bit um more thoroughly ,
Professor B: Right .
Grad D: this is the information on on the low sunken castle , and the amphitheater that never came up , and um , so i if we give her even more um , instruments to work with I think the results are gonna be even better .
Professor B: Oh , yeah , and then of course as she does it she 'll she 'll learn @ @ .  So that 's great . Um And also if she 's willing to take on the job of organizing all those subjects and stuff that would be wonderful .
Grad D: Mmm .
Professor B: And , uh she 's actually she 's going to graduate school in a kind of an experimental paradigm , so I think this is all just fine in terms of h her learning things she 's gonna need to know uh , to do her career .
Grad D: Mmm .
Professor B: So , I my guess is she 'll be r r quite happy to take on that job . And , so Grad D: Yep . Yeah she she didn't explicitly state that so .
Professor B: Great .
Grad D: And um I told her that we gonna um figure out a meeting time in the near future to refine the tasks and s look for the potential sources to find people . She also agrees that you know if it 's all just gonna be students the data is gonna be less valuable because of that so .
Professor B: Well , as I say there is this s set of people next door , it 's not hard to
Grad D: We 're already Yeah .
Professor B: uh Grad D: However , we may run into a problem with a reading task there . And um , we 'll see .
Professor B: Yeah . We could talk to the people who run it and um see if they have a way that they could easily uh tell people that there 's a task , pays ten bucks or something ,
Grad D: Mm - hmm . Yeah .
Professor B: but um you have to be comfortable reading relatively complicated stuff . And and there 'll probably be self - selection to some extent .

Summary: The team listened to a recording of the interface's trial run. Litonya was asked to be the first subject of the interface and Fey acted as the wizard. The team was happy with Fey's performance and decided to hire her. Upon Fey's suggestion, they also decided that the wizard should be introduced in a more appropriate fashion. The team also agreed that the run was too long at 5 minutes.