G: Well , make ano make another directory .
D: I 'll make another directory .
D: Yeah .
G: You don't n m
D: Exactly .
G: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
G: Yeah .
E: And , Andreas , um , sampled ?
G: They are ?
E: I think so .
E: Yeah .
G: OK .
E: Um , so either we should regenerate the original versions , <comment> or um , we should just make a note of it .
G: Oh .
G: Beca - Well G: OK , because in one directory there 's two versions .
E: Yeah , that 's the first meeting I cut both versions .
G: OK .
E: Just to check which w if there is a significant difference .
G: And so I G: but G: OK
G: so but for the other meetings it 's the downsampled version that you have .
E: They 're all downsampled ,
E: yeah .
G: Oh , OK .
G: Oh that 's th important to know ,
G: OK
G: so
G: we should probably uh give them the non - downsampled versions .
E: Yeah .
E: So G: OK .
G: Alright , then I 'll hold off on that and I 'll wait for you
G: um E: Probably by tomorrow
G: gen
E: I can G: OK .
E: I 'll send you an email .
G: Alright .
G: OK .
G: Yeah , definitely they should have the full bandwidth version ,
G: yeah . OK .
E: Yeah ,
E: because I mean I I think Liz decided to go ahead with the downsampled versions cuz we can There was no s like , r significant difference .
G: Well , it takes it takes up less disk space , for one thing .
E: It does take up less disk space ,
E: and apparently it did even better than the original than the original versions ,
G: Yeah .
G: Yeah .
G: Right .
E: which you know , is just , probably random .
G: Yeah , it was a small difference
G: but yeah .
E: But , um they probably w want the originals .
G: Yeah .
G: OK .
G: OK ,
G: good .
G: Good that G: Well , it 's a good thing that A: OK , I think we 're losing , Don and Andreas at three - thirty ,
A: right ?
G: Yeah .
E: Hey mon hafta booga .
A: OK .
F: So ,
F: that 's why it was good to have Andreas , say these things
F: but F: So , we should probably talk about the IBM transcription process stuff that C: OK .
F: Hmm .
C: So , um you know that Adam created um , a b a script to generate the beep file ?
C: To then create something to send to IBM .
C: And , um ,
C: you you should probably talk about that .
C: But but you were gonna to use the originally transcribed file
C: because I tightened the time bins
C: and that 's also the one that they had already in trying to debug the first stage of this .
C: And uh ,
C: my understanding was that ,
C: um C: I haven't  I haven't listened to it yet ,
C: but it sounded very good
A: Mm - hmm .
C: and and I understand that you guys were going to have a meeting today , before this meeting .
A: It was just to talk about how to generate it .
A: Um , just so that while I 'm gone , you can regenerate it if you decide to do it a different way .
C: Excellent .
A: So uh , Chuck and Thilo should , now more or less know how to generate the file
C: OK .
A: and , the other thing Chuck pointed out is that , um , since this one is hand - marked , there are discourse boundaries .
A: Right ?
C: Mm - hmm .
A: So so when one person is speaking , there 's breaks .
A: Whereas Thilo 's won't have that .
C: Oh !
C: OK .
A: So what what we 're probably gonna do is just write a script , that if two , chunks are very close to each other on the same channel we 'll just merge them .
C: Ah , interesting .
C: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
C: Oh , sure .
C: Yeah , sure .
C: Makes sense .
A: So , uh , and that will get around the problem of , the , you know " one word beep , one word beep , one word beep , one word beep " .
C: Yeah .
C: Ah !
C: Clever .
C: Yes .
C: Clever .
C: Yeah .
C: Excellent .
D: Yeah , in fact after our meeting uh , this morning Thilo came in and said that um , there could be other differences between the uh already transcribed meeting with the beeps in it and one that has just r been run through his process .
C: And that 's the purpose .
C: Yeah .
D: So tomorrow , when we go to make the um uh , chunked file for IBM , we 're going to actually compare the two .
D: So he 's gonna run his process on that same meeting ,
C: Great idea !
D: and then we 're gonna do the beep - ify on both , and listen to them and see if we notice any real differences .
G: Beep - ify !
C: OK ,
C: now one thing that prevented us from apply you you from applying C: Exactly .
C: The training C: So that is the training meeting .
D: Yeah ,
D: w and we know that .
C: OK .
D: Wel - uh we just wanna if if there 're any major differences between doing it on the hand
C: Uh - huh .
C: Oh , interesting .
C: Ah !
C: OK .
A: Hmm .
C: Interesting idea .
G: So this training meeting , uh w un is that uh some data where we have uh very um , you know , accurate time marks ? for C: Great .
C: I went back and hand - marked the ba the bins ,
C: I ment I mentioned that last week .
G: OK ,
G: yeah .
D: But the but there 's yeah , but there is this one issue with them in that there 're  there are time boundaries in there that occur in the middle of speech .
G: Because D: So D: Like when we went t to
D: um D: When I was listening to the original file that Adam had , it 's like you you hear a word then you hear a beep and then you hear the continuation of what is the same sentence .
A: That 's on the other channel .
A: That 's because of channel overlap .
D: Well ,
D: and and so the th
C: Hmm .
D: So there are these chunks that look like uh  that have uh A: It 's i
A: I mean that 's not gonna be true of the foreground speaker .
A: That 'll only be if it 's the background speaker .
D: Right .
D: So you 'll you 'll have a chunk of , you know , channel A which starts at zero and ends at ten ,
D: and then the same channel starting at eleven ,
D: ending at fifteen ,
D: and then again , starting at sixteen ,
D: ending at twenty .
D: Right ,
D: so that 's three chunks where actually we w can just make one chunk out of that
G: Mm - hmm .
D: which is A , zero , twenty .
C: Yeah .
C: Sure .
A: That 's what I just said ,
C: Sure .
A: yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: So I just wanted to make sure that it was clear .
C: Yeah ,
C: I thought that was D: So if you were to use these , you have to be careful not to pull out these individual C: Yeah .
G: Oh !
G: I mean it G: Right ,
G: I mean w I mean what I would I was interested in is having  a se having time marks for the beginnings and ends of speech
G: by each speaker .
A: Well , that 's definitely a problem .
G: Uh , because we could use that to fine tune our alignment process
G: to make it more accurate .
D: Yeah .
A: Battery .
B: Battery ?
D: Mm - hmm .
G: So G: uh ,
G: it I don't care that you know , there 's actually abutting segments that we have to join together .
G: That 's fine .
D: OK .
G: But what we do care about is that the beginnings and ends um are actually close to the speech inside of that
D: Yeah ,
G: uh D: I think Jane tightened these up by hand .
G: OK ,
B: OK .
C: Yeah .
G: so what is the sort of how tight are they ?
F: Uh , it looks much better .
B: Yeah .
B: Looks good .
C: They were , um , reasonably tight , but not excruciatingly tight .
G: Oh .
C: That would 've taken more time .
C: I just wanted to get it so tha So that if you have like " yeah " <comment> in a swimming in a big bin , then it 's G: No , no !
G: I don
G: actually I I A: Let me make a note on yours .
G: I it 's f
B: Yeah .
G: That 's fine
G: because we don't want to G: th that 's perfectly fine .
G: In fact it 's good .
G: You always want to have a little bit of pause or nonspeech around the speech , say for recognition purposes .
G: Uh ,
G: but just just u w you know get an id I just wanted to have an idea of the  of how much extra you allowed
G: um G: so that I can interpret the numbers if I compared that with a forced alignment segmentation .
G: So .
C: I can't answer that ,
C: but but my main goal was um , in these areas where you have a three - way overlap and one of the overlaps involves " yeah " , and it 's swimming in this huge bin , I wanted to get it so that it was clo more closely localized .
G: Mm - hmm .
G: Mm - hmm .
G: Right .
G: But are we talking about , I don't know , a  tenth of a second ?
G: a ?
G: You know ?
G: How how much how much extra would you allow at most C: I I wanted to C: I wanted it to be able to l he be heard normally ,
G: Mm - hmm .
C: so that if you if you play back that bin and have it in the mode where it stops at the boundary , it sounds like a normal word .
G: OK .
C: It doesn't sound like the person C: i it sounds normal .
C: It 's as if the person could 've stopped there .
G: Mm - hmm .
G: OK .
C: And it wouldn't have been an awkward place to stop .
C: Now sometimes you know , it 's these are involved in places where there was no time .