C: So you want to say that , you know , you 're looking for , um , a tag within a tag within a particular tag that has this particular text in it , um , and , uh , refers to a particular value .
C: And so the point isn't that an end - user , who is looking for a query like you specified , wouldn't program it in this language .
C: What you would do is , someone would build a tool that used that as a library .
C: So that they so that you wouldn't have to construct the internal representations yourself .
F: Is a F: See , I think the kinds of questions , at least in the next to the end of this year , are there may be a lot of different ones ,
F: but they 'll all have a similar nature .
F: They 'll be looking at either a word - level prosodic , uh , an a value ,
F: like a continuous value ,
C: Mm - hmm .
F: like the slope of something .
F: But
F: you know , we 'll do something where we some kind of data reduction where the prosodic features are sort o uh , either at the word - level or at the segment - level ,
C: Right .
F: or or something like that .
F: They 're not gonna be at the phone - level and they 're no not gonna be at the frame - level when we get done with sort of giving them simpler shapes and things .
F: And so the main thing is just being able F: Well , I guess , the two goals .
F: Um , one that Chuck mentioned is starting out with something that we don't have to start over , that we don't have to throw away if other people want to extend it for other kinds of questions ,
C: Right .
F: and being able to at least get enough , uh , information out on where we condition the location of features on information that 's in the kind of file that you put up there .
F: And that would that would do it ,
F: I mean , for me .
C: Yeah .
C: I think that there are quick and dirty solutions ,
C: and then there are long - term , big - infrastructure solutions .
C: And so we want to try to pick something that lets us do a little bit of both .
F: In the between ,
F: right .
F: And especially that the representation doesn't have to be thrown away ,
C: Um C: Right .
F: even if your tools change .
C: And so it seems to me that C: I mean , I have to look at it again to see whether it can really do what we want ,
C: but if we use the ATLAS external file representation , um , it seems like it 's rich enough that you could do quick tools just as I said in Perl ,
F: Yeah .
C: and then later on if we choose to go up the learning curve , we can use the whole ATLAS inter infrastructure ,
F: I mean , that sounds good to me .
C: which has all that built in .
F: I I don't F: So
F: if if you would l look at that and let us know what you think .
C: Sure .
F: I mean , I think we 're sort of guinea pigs ,
F: cuz I I want to get the prosody work done
F: but I don't want to waste time , you know , getting the A: Oh , maybe F: Yeah ?
A: um C: Well , I wouldn't wait for the formats , because anything you pick we 'll be able to translate to another form .
A: Well A: Ma
F: OK .
A: well , maybe you should actually look at it yourself too to get a sense of what it is you 'll you 'll be dealing with ,
A: because , um , you know , Adam might have one opinion but you might have another ,
B: Yeah .
A: so
F: Yeah , definitely .
A: I think the more eyes look at this the better .
F: Especially if there 's , e um you know , if someone can help with at least the the setup of the right F: Oh , hi .
C: Hi , Jane .
A: Mmm .
F: the right representation ,
F: then , i you know , I hope it won't F: We don't actually need the whole full - blown thing to be ready ,
C: Can you C: Oh , well .
F: so .
F: Um ,
F: so maybe if you guys can look at it and sort of see what ,
C: Sure .
B: Yeah .
F: um F: I think we 're we 're  we 're actually just C: We 're about done .
F: yeah ,
F: wrapping up ,
B: Hmm .
F: but ,
F: um F: Yeah ,
F: sorry , it 's a uh short meeting ,
F: but , um F: Well , I don't know .
F: Is there anything else ,
F: like F: I mean that helps me a lot ,
C: Well , I think the other thing we might want to look at is alternatives to P - file .
F: but C: I mean , th the reason I like P - file is I 'm already familiar with it ,
C: we have expertise here ,
C: and so if we pick something else , there 's the learning - curve problem .
C: But , I mean , it is just something we developed at ICSI .
C: And so A: Is there an is there an IP - API ?
C: Yeah .
A: OK .
C: There 's an API for it .
C: And , uh ,
A: There used to be a problem that they get too large ,