Professor B: Yeah . And the Aurora folks here will will definitely get something in on Aurora ,
PhD D: which is not PhD F: Actually this this , um So , there 's another paper .
Professor B: so .
PhD F: It 's a Eurospeech paper but not related to meetings . But it 's on digits . So , um , uh , a colleague at SRI developed a improved version of MMIE training .
Professor B: Uh - huh .
PhD F: And he tested it mostly on digits because it 's sort of a you know , it doesn't take weeks to train it .
Professor B: Right .
PhD F: Um . And got some very impressive results , um , with , you know , discriminative , uh , Gaussian training . Um , you know , like , um , error rates go from I don't know , in very noisy environment , like from , uh , uh I for now I OK , now I have the order of magnit I 'm not sure about the order of magnitude . Was it like from ten percent to eight percent or from e e you know , point you know , from one percent to point eight percent ?
Professor B: H i it got it got better .
PhD F: I mean , it 's a Professor B: Yeah , yeah .
PhD D: Yeah .
PhD F: It got better . That 's the important thing .
Grad E: Hey , that 's the same percent relative ,
PhD F: Yeah . But it 's Grad E: so PhD F: Yeah . Right .
Professor B: Yeah .
PhD F: It 's , uh , something in Professor B: Yeah .
Grad E: Twenty percent relative gain .
PhD F: Right .
Professor B: Yeah .
PhD F: Yeah .
Professor B: Yeah . Um , let 's see . I think the only thing we had left was unless somebody else Well , there 's a couple things . Uh , one is anything that , um , anybody has to say about Saturday ? Anything we should do in prep for Saturday ? Um I guess everybody knows about I mean , u um , Mari was asking was trying to come up with something like an agenda and we 're sort of fitting around people 's times a bit . But , um , clearly when we actually get here we 'll move things around this , as we need to , but so you can't absolutely count on it .
PhD D: OK .
Professor B: But but , uh PhD D: Yeah .
PhD A: Are we meeting in here probably or ? OK .
Professor B: Yeah . That was my thought .
PhD A: Yeah .
Professor B: I think this is PhD F: Are we recording it ?
PhD A: We won't have enough microphones ,
Professor B :
PhD A: but Professor B: u No . I I hadn't in intended to .
PhD A: There 's no way .
Professor B: We won we wanna I mean , they 're there 's gonna be , uh , Jeff , Katrin , Mari and two students .
PhD F: OK .
Professor B: So there 's five from there .
Grad E: And Brian .
Professor B: And Brian 's coming ,
PhD F: But you know th
Professor B: so that 's six .
Grad E: And plus all of us .
PhD F: Mm - hmm .
Professor B: Uh PhD F: Can use the Oprah mike .
PhD A: Depends how fast you can throw it .
Grad E: It seems like too many too much coming and going .
PhD A: It 's just Yeah .
PhD F: Mm - hmm .
PhD A: We don't even have enough channel Professor B: Well PhD F: Because it would be a different kind of meeting ,
PhD D: Yeah .
PhD F: that 's what I 'm Professor B: Well PhD F: But PhD H: Yeah .
Professor B: I hadn't really thought of it ,
PhD F: Maybe just maybe not the whole day
Professor B: but PhD F: but just , you know , maybe some I mean ,
Professor B: Maybe part of it .
PhD F: part of it ?
Professor B: Maybe part of it .
Grad E: Make everyone read digits .
Professor B: At the same time .
PhD A: At the same time .
Grad E: At the same time .
PhD F: Please .
PhD H :
Professor B: Yeah .
PhD A: We c
Professor B: I don't know .
PhD A: That 's their initiation into our
Professor B: Any
PhD A: w
Grad E: Into our our our cult .
PhD A: Yeah , our Yeah , our PhD F: Maybe the sections that are not right afte you know , after lunch when everybody 's still munching and PhD A: So can you send out a schedule once you know it , jus ?
Professor B: OK . Well PhD A: Is is there a r ?
Professor B: OK . Yeah . I guess I sent it around a little bit .
PhD A: There 's a res Is it changed now , or ?
Professor B: But I hadn't heard back from Mari after I I u u uh , brought up the point abou about Andreas 's schedule . So , um , maybe when I get back there 'll be some some mail from her .
PhD A: OK .
Professor B: So , I 'll make a Postdoc C: I 'm looking forward to seeing your representation . That 'd be , uh PhD A: And w we should get the two meetings from y
Postdoc C: I 'd like to see that . Yeah .
PhD A: I mean , I know about the first meeting , um , but the other one that you did , the NSA one , which we hadn't done cuz we weren't running recognition on it , because the non - native speaker Postdoc C: Mm - hmm .
PhD A: there were five non - native speakers .
Postdoc C: Mm - hmm . I see . Mm - hmm .
PhD A: But , it would be useful for the to see what we get with that one . So .
Postdoc C: Great . OK . It 's , uh , two thousand eleven twenty - one one thousand .
PhD A: Yeah , three . Right . So Postdoc C: Great . I sent email when I finished the that one .
PhD A: N S A three , I think .
Postdoc C: That was sort of son Yeah , that 's right . That 's right . That 's much simpler .
PhD A: I don't know what they said but I know the number .
Professor B: Th - that part 's definitely gonna confuse somebody who looks at these later .
PhD F: Right .
Professor B: I mean , this is we we 're recording secret NSA meetings ?
PhD F: Um . Not the Professor B: I mean , it 's PhD F: Yeah .
Postdoc C: Yeah . Not that NSA .
PhD F: Uh . The th the PhD A: They are hard to understand .
Professor B: It 's network services and applications .
PhD F: Wait .
PhD A: They 're very , uh , out there .
PhD F: The PhD A: I have no idea what they 're talking about .
Professor B: Yeah .
PhD F: The , um th the other good thing about the alignments is that , um , it 's not always the machine 's fault if it doesn't work . So , you can actually find , um ,
PhD A: It 's the person 's fault .
PhD F: problem uh , proble
PhD A: It 's Morgan 's fault .
PhD F: You can find Professor B: It 's always Morgan 's fault .
PhD F: You can find , uh , problems with with the transcripts , um , you know ,
Grad E: Oh .
PhD A: Yeah .
PhD F: and go back and fix them .
PhD A: Tha - There are some cases like where the the wrong speaker uh , these ca Not a lot , but where the the wrong person the the speech is addre attached to the wrong speaker
PhD F: But PhD A: and you can tell that when you run it . Or at least you can get clues to it .
Postdoc C: Interesting .
PhD A: So these are from the early transcriptions that people did on the mixed signals , like what you have .
Postdoc C: I guess it does w Mm - hmm . It also raises the possibility of , um , using that kind of representation I mean , I don't know , this 'd be something we 'd wanna check , {comment} but maybe using that representation for data entry and then displaying it on the channelized , uh , representation , cuz it I think that the I mean , my my preference in terms of , like , looking at the data is to see it in this kind of musical score format .
PhD A: Mm - hmm .
Postdoc C: And also , s you know , Sue 's preference as well .
PhD A: Yeah , if you can get it to Postdoc C: And and but , I mean , this if this is a better interface for making these kinds of , uh , you know , lo clos local changes , then that 'd be fine , too . I don't I have no idea . I think this is something that would need to be checked . Yeah .
Professor B: OK . Th - the other thing I had actually was , I I didn't realize this till today , but , uh , this is , uh , Jose 's last day .
Grad E: Yeah .
PhD H: Is my last my last day .
PhD A: Oh !
Postdoc C: Oh .
PhD F: Oh !
Grad E: You 're not gonna be here tomorrow ?
PhD H: My  my last meeting about meetings .
Grad E: Oh , that 's right . Tomorrow PhD H: Yeah .
PhD D: The last meeting meeting ?
PhD H: Because , eh , I leave , eh , the next Sunday .
Grad E: It 's off .
PhD A: Oh .
PhD F: Mm - hmm .
PhD H: I will come back to home to Spain .
Professor B: Yeah .
PhD A: Oh .
Professor B: I d so I I jus
PhD F: Mm - hmm .
PhD H: And I I would like to to to say thank you very much , eh , to all people in the group and at ICSI ,
PhD F: Mm - hmm .
Grad E: Yeah . It was good having you .
PhD F: Mmm .
PhD A: Yeah .
PhD H: because I I enjoyed @ @ very much ,
PhD F: Mmm .
PhD H: uh . And I 'm sorry by the result of overlapping , because , eh , I haven't good results , eh , yet but , eh , I  I pretend {comment} to to continuing out to Spain , eh , during the the following months ,
Professor B: Uh - huh .
PhD H: eh , because I have , eh , another ideas but , eh , I haven't enough time to to  with six months it 's not enough to  to to research ,
Grad E: Yep .
Professor B: Yeah .
PhD H: eh , and e i I mean , if , eh , the topic is , eh , so difficult , uh , in my opinion , there isn't Professor B: Yeah . Maybe somebody else will come along and will be , uh , interested in working on it and could start off from where you are also , you know . They 'd make use of of what you 've done .
PhD H: Yeah .
Professor B: Yeah .
PhD H: Yeah . But , eh , I I will try to recommend , eh , at , eh , the Spanish government but , eh , the following @ @ scholarship , eh , eh , eh , will be here more time , because eh , i in my opinion is is better , eh , for us to to spend more time here and to work more time i i in a topic .
Professor B: Yeah , it 's a very short time .
PhD H: No ? But , uh Professor B: Yeah . Yeah .
Grad E: Yeah , six months is hard .
PhD H: Yeah . It is .
Grad E: I think a year is a lot better .
PhD H: Yeah .
Professor B: Yeah .
PhD H: It 's difficult . You e you have , eh you are lucky , and you you find a solution {comment} in in in some few tim uh , months , eh ? OK . But , eh , I think it 's not , eh , common . But , eh , anyway , thank you . Thank you very much . Eh , I I bring the chocolate , eh , to   to tear , uh , with with you ,
PhD A: Oh .
Postdoc C: Ah .
PhD F: Mmm .
Postdoc C: Nice .
PhD H: uh . I I hope if you need , eh , something , eh , from us in the future , I I will be at Spain , to you help , uh .
Professor B: Well .
Grad E: Great .
Postdoc C: Great .
PhD A: Right .
Professor B: Thank you , Jose .
Postdoc C: Thank you .
PhD H: And , thank you very much .
PhD F: Have a good trip .
Professor B: Yeah .
Postdoc C: Yeah .
PhD F: Keep in touch .
PhD H: Thank you .
Professor B: Yeah . OK . I guess , uh , unless somebody has something else , we 'll read read our digits
Grad E: Digits ?
Professor B: and we 'll get our PhD D: Uh .
Professor B: get our last bit of , uh , Jose 's Jose Jose 's digit PhD D: Oops .
Grad E: Are we gonna do them simultaneously or ?
PhD H: You eh Professor B: Uh , I 'm sorry ?
PhD H: Ye - ye you prefer , eh , to eat , eh , chocolate , eh , at the coffee break , eh , at the ? Or you prefer now , before after ?
Postdoc C: Well , we have a time PhD F: No , we prefer to keep it for ourselves .
PhD D: During Postdoc C: Well , we have a s a time time constraint .
PhD F: Yeah , yeah .
PhD D: during digits .
Professor B: So keep it away from that end of the table .
Postdoc C: Yeah .
PhD F: Yeah .
PhD H: Yeah .
PhD A: Why is it that I can read your mind ?
Postdoc C: Yeah .
Grad E: Well , we 've gotta wait until after di after we take the mikes off .
PhD D: No , no .
Grad E: So are we gonna do digits simultaneously
PhD A: You This is our reward if we do our digi
Professor B: Well ? Yeah .
Postdoc C: OK .
PhD D: Yeah .
Grad E: or what ?
PhD D: Simultaneous digit chocolate task .
PhD H: I I think , eh , it 's enough , eh , for more peopl for more people after .
Professor B: We 're gonna we 're gonna do digits at the same PhD A: Oh .
PhD F: Mmm !
Postdoc C: That 's nice .
PhD H: But , eh PhD F: Mm - hmm .
PhD A: Oh , thanks , Jose .
Professor B: Um .
Postdoc C: Wow .
PhD H: To Andreas , the idea is is good . s To eat here .
Professor B: Well PhD F: Mmm .
Postdoc C: Wow . Very nice .
PhD F: Oh .
PhD A: Oh , wow .
Professor B: Tha - that 's that looks great .
PhD F: Oh , yeah . Th - it doesn't it won't leave this room .
Professor B: Alright , so in the interest of getting to the PhD A: We could do digits while other people eat .
PhD D: Yeah .
PhD A: So it 's background crunching .
PhD D: Yeah .
PhD H: Yeah .
PhD F: Mmm .
PhD A: We don't have background chewing .
Postdoc C: Nice .
PhD H: Is , eh , a another acoustic event .
PhD D: Background crunch . Yeah .
PhD A: No , we don't have any data with background eating .
PhD F: Mmm .
PhD D: Yeah .
PhD A: I 'm serious . You
Professor B: She 's she 's serious .
PhD A: I am serious .
Grad E: It 's just the rest of the digits the rest of the digits are very clean ,
Professor B: She is serious .
PhD F: Mmm .
PhD A: Well ?
PhD H: Are you ? Oh , they 're clean .
PhD D: Yeah !
Grad E: um , without a lot of background noise ,
PhD A: And it You have to write down , like , while y what you 're what ch chocolate you 're eating
Grad E: so I 'm just not sure PhD A: cuz they might make different sounds , like n nuts chocolate with nuts , chocolate without nuts .
Postdoc C: Oh .
Professor B: Um PhD D: Crunchy frogs .
PhD F: Chocolate adaptation .
Professor B: Actually  actually kind of careful cuz I have a strong allergy to nuts , so I have to sort of figure out one without th
PhD A: That w Oh , yeah , they they might .
Professor B: It 's hard to hard to say .
PhD A: Maybe those ? They 're so I don't know .
Professor B: I don't know . Um PhD A: This is You know , this is a different kind of speech ,
Professor B: Well PhD H: Take take several .
PhD A: looking at chocolates , deciding PhD F: Mmm .
PhD A: you know , it 's another style .
Professor B: Yeah . I may I may hold off .
PhD F: Mmm .
Professor B: But if I was eh , but maybe I 'll get some later . Thanks .
PhD F: Mmm .
Professor B: Well well , why don't we ? He he 's worried about a ticket . Why don't we do a simultaneous one ?
PhD A: OK .
Professor B: Simultaneous one ?
Postdoc C: OK .
Grad E: OK .
PhD F: Mmm .
PhD A: And you laughed at me , too , f the first time I said that .
Professor B: OK .
Grad E: Remember to read the transcript number , please .
PhD F: Right .
PhD H: OK .
Professor B: I have to what ?
PhD D: Oops .
PhD H: Yeah .
PhD A: You laughed at me , too , the first time I sa said Professor B: I did ,
PhD A: You really shouldn't , uh , te
Professor B: and now I love it so much .
Grad E: OK , everyone ready ?
PhD A: You have to sort of , um Jose , if you haven't done this , you have to plug your ears while you 're t talking
Professor B: W wait wait a minute wait a minute . W we want we want PhD A: so that you don't get confused , I guess .
Professor B: we want it synchronized .
PhD A: Yeah . Oh , you 've done this one before ?
Postdoc C: Hey , you 've done this before . Haven't you ?
PhD H: Yeah .
PhD D: That 's PhD A: Together ?
Postdoc C: You 've read digits together with us , haven't you I mean , at the same time ?
PhD A: I 'm not we we Oh , and you haven't done this either .
Professor B: OK .
Postdoc C: Oh , you haven't !
PhD H: No .
Postdoc C: Oh , OK .
PhD D: Oh , yeah .
PhD A: I the first time is traumatic ,
Professor B: We
PhD A: but Professor B: Y Yeah , bu
Postdoc C: Oh , and the groupings are important ,
PhD H: Mmm .
Postdoc C: so yo you 're supposed to pause between the groupings .
PhD H: The grouping .
Professor B: Yeah .
PhD H: Yeah .
Professor B: OK . So , uh PhD F: You mean that the the grouping is supposed to be synchronized ?
Professor B: No , no .
Postdoc C: No .
Grad E: Yeah , sure .
PhD F: No ?
PhD A: That 'd be good .
Professor B: Synchronized digits .
Postdoc C: No .
PhD F: No ?
PhD A: We - we 'll give everybody the same sheet
PhD F: It 's like a like a Greek like a Greek choir ?
PhD A: but they say different PhD F: You know ?
Professor B: Yes .
Grad E: Hey , what a good idea .
PhD F: Like Grad E: We could do the same sheet for everyone .
PhD F: Yeah .
Grad E: Have them all read them at once .
PhD A: Well , different digits
PhD D: Eh PhD A: but same groupings .
Grad E: Or or just same digits .
PhD A: So they would all be Yeah .
Postdoc C: Yeah . That 'd be good .
Grad E: See if anyone notices .
Professor B: There 's so many possibilities .
Postdoc C: And then then we can sing them next time .
Professor B: Uh . OK , why don't we go ? Uh , one two three Go !
Postdoc C: OK . Mmm !
Professor B: And Andreas has the last word .
Grad E: Did you read it twice or what ?
PhD A: He 's try No , he 's trying to get good recognition performance .
Postdoc C: He had the h
PhD H: Yeah .
Postdoc C: He had the the long form .
PhD H: Yeah .
Grad E: And we 're off .
PhD F: No .