Project Manager: Okay , welcome to the detailed design meeting . Again , I'm gonna take minutes . Oh , we're gonna have a prototype presentation first .
User Interface: Project Manager: Uh , who's gonna give the prototype presentation ? You two guys ? Okay . Go ahead .
Industrial Designer: Yes .  User Interface: .
Marketing:   . User Interface: coffee .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: 'Kay , we've made a prototype . Um , we've got uh uh our aspects from the last meeting . Uh , especially we looked at the form , material and the colour . Um , we've uh drawn here the p prototype . The logo is uh is uh is pretty uh obvious to see on the on the remote control ,
User Interface:  Industrial Designer: but it is necessary when you want to build your uh company f to a level higher . Um , our interface elements , there are shown in the in the drawing . Maybe you can uh point them uh The functions .
User Interface: Uh , well the uh all the functions are discussed uh I think the most of the functions are uh uh obvious . Uh , it's a little bit . Uh , power button . Uh then the the the nine uh channels .
Project Manager: User Interface: Uh the volume uh uh at the side , and the other side is the programmes . And then we had uh just uh two buttons , we place them in the middle , uh the menu , and for the teletext
Project Manager: Oh no , the the the mute button misses now .
User Interface:  I thought that was th
Marketing: Alright , I Project Manager: Do y do you User Interface: Oh , the mute button .
Project Manager: did we want to have a m mute button ?
Industrial Designer: But uh that Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: It's uh here then , in the middle .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Huh .
Marketing: Alright , and uh you gotta point out which is the volume um uh button and which is the programme button .
Industrial Designer: Yes , um
User Interface: Well , yeah mo uh mo
Industrial Designer: we've disc
User Interface: Yeah , well most of them are right-handed .
Industrial Designer: Most of the users
Marketing: Yeah , but you you gotta make it clear on the on User Interface: Yeah well , I don't have time in uh anymore on the Industrial Designer: Yes , y there there will be a p a little a little P_ on that and a little uh yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , and a and a triangle on that .
User Interface: Oh yeah , just progr programme above , I think .
Marketing: Yes . Next to that I kinda miss a zero actually .
User Interface: Project Manager: Wait , there's was one thing I wanted to ask .
Marketing: Industrial Designer: User Interface: Marketing: Industrial Designer: Project Manager: Uh , there are different ways for remote controls to uh do uh like
Marketing: Project Manager: uh d I call it teens and twenties . Uh , y th th th the two numbers .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: All n no , that's um kinda dependent on the television .
User Interface: Yeah , true , yeah .
Industrial Designer: It's a television . Yes .
Project Manager: Yeah , but do we have do we need extra buttons ,
User Interface: Uh Project Manager: for example some uh some have to User Interface: Uh I think so .
Marketing: I think Industrial Designer: Yes , yes , you have you have a lot of standard buttons that has to be uh on it , uh th with the one and a double uh uh Marketing: Yeah , I think you should add  User Interface: Zero ?
Marketing: A cross , or whatever . Yeah , line .
Project Manager: Yeah , but you don't you don't actually need them ,
User Interface: May maybe here ?
Industrial Designer: yes .
Project Manager: becau b l a lot of remote controls work that y when y that you when you fir you push the one first , then you have a couple of seconds User Interface: Yeah . And then a second .
Marketing: No , that's dependent on the television .
Project Manager: No , I don't think so .
Industrial Designer: Yes , you have televisions , then you have to , you know , you have to uh press Marketing: I do know so .
User Interface: Is it depending on television ?
Project Manager: Nah , I don't think so really ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: because you have a I know some remote controls that don't have these buttons , but you still can , know , obviously you can still select the twenty uh a number in the twenty or in the ten .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but but a lot uh Marketing: Yes , but uh uh no uh remote control nowadays are um  they come with the television . Or actually , the other way around .
Project Manager: No , I think uh I really think it's n
Marketing: But  Project Manager: because you can when when you put a button on it with like one and uh then a dash , it's the same thing as when you just push the one ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: because it i it first gives you the functionality of that that uh separate button you also had to uh apply .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but
Marketing: Yeah , well but su If Industrial Designer: some televisions don't accept uh that that Project Manager: Yeah , because that's i it's for television . It's exact the same thing .
Industrial Designer: No , no , but s
Marketing: No no no . So some television respond differently . Look , if uh i i
Project Manager: No , listen listen . When you push the button , the remote control gives a signal . I in th in the first place it gives a signal which it would also send when you put a separate button on it .
Marketing: Yes . Yes , that's true .
Project Manager: The one with dash , that signal gi and when y whe when you don't push another button on the remote control within five seconds , then the remote control gives a signal for channel one .
User Interface: Yeah . True .
Marketing: No Project Manager: I think it works that way , really .
Marketing: No , it it it works uh if you haven't got uh a special button for it , uh if you push a one , then on your television there will appear a one and a a line , which is an empty space .
Project Manager: Yeah , but it's exact the same that w would appear when you put a separate button push a separate button .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but some some old televisions uh you have to uh click on uh a special button , uh then you go to a a next level , you can push two buttons .
Project Manager: Yeah , but you don't underst uh you don't understand my point .
Marketing: Yep . True .
Project Manager: I think it's exact the same thing when y
Industrial Designer: You want Yes , but some television don't support it .
Project Manager: No , but then they would a would also support that button , because it's the same thing .
User Interface: But the ex
Project Manager: Listen , with that that's that special but button you're talking about , eh ? That's just a signal to recei ju they send a t signal to the v tv T_V_ that they have to put a one in on your screen and a dash , which you can pu so you can uh still put another number on it . When you don't have that separate button , and you push y one , it's exactly the same thing . Do y you the remote control gives that same signal as it would give when you only had Industrial Designer: No ,
Marketing: No , s some some televisions need the input first uh and and you c
Industrial Designer: a remote can Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yes ,
Project Manager: But you give the input .
Industrial Designer: so they need no , they need Project Manager: You push the one . That's the same thing as the button with the one and it Marketing: No , that's not true .
Project Manager: yes it it is .
Marketing: It's simply not true . It's simply not true .
Project Manager: Think about it .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: No ,
User Interface: You uh you can wai when you push the one you can show on the telly a one and just a dash , and then wait uh two uh seconds or something Industrial Designer: but uh Marketing: Uh Project Manager: And it's the same thing what happens and a g remote control gives another signal after five seconds that is just one .
Marketing: No , remote control doesn't give signal after five seconds . Remote control is a stupid thing . If you push a button , it sends it immediately to to the television .
Project Manager: Yeah , that's true . Yeah , but I m uh but it's I I know for sure that some televisions that w th th the remote control supplied , only ha has the c these buttons with a one and a dash and a two and a dash , but when you use a bu a n remote control that doesn't sport these buttons , it still works .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it Project Manager: But okay , we we'll impl
Marketing: No , definitely not . Definitely not .
User Interface: We'll discuss them in the usability lab .
Project Manager: No , we'll apply them then for now .
User Interface: Uh eva evaluation .
Marketing: User Interface: I don't know uh I don't know if if it's it's necessary .
Project Manager: Yeah , app just apply them next to the zero , the one and the two .
User Interface: Yeah ?
Project Manager: Yeah , I think so . Yeah , for now , if we don't know for sure whether  User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: And the button for the SCART uh audio video uh external input .
Marketing: Yes .
User Interface: Ach .
Project Manager: Yeah but Marketing: Uh , you can access that uh via zero , and then minus , I guess .
Project Manager: okay . What I said about uh the remote control sending another signal , that that might not be true ,
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: but I still think i it it all T_V_s in some ways support it , I don't know . I think it's more c is m maybe we don't uh we both don't really understand how it i how it really works ,
Industrial Designer: No , no .
Project Manager: but I think there's more to in than wha than what you just said .
Industrial Designer: Uh , remote control sends one signal at one button uh press .
Project Manager: I do think that uh m T_V_s support mur multiple kind of remote controls . M
Industrial Designer: Uh , some N some televisions when when you want to go further than uh ten Project Manager: Th won't work wi with uh Industrial Designer: No , you have to you have to uh give the television uh two or more signals .
Project Manager: to have that special button .
Industrial Designer: When you uh press one button , you give one signal . And the older televisions need more signals to go a level higher . But Project Manager: Okay , well we'll see .
Marketing: Yep .
Industrial Designer: When you make the technology that that it will uh give more signals , it could work , but Just a basic idea of of of the most uh most y most common uh and simple uh operations on the remote .
Marketing: Okay . I kinda miss the docking station .
User Interface: Yeah . Industrial Designer: Yes . It's here on the  User Interface: Marketing: User Interface: Well it Industrial Designer: User Interface: yeah , uh there's nothing I think it's pretty basic ,
Industrial Designer: We came uh User Interface: the the there's no fu
Industrial Designer: Yes .
User Interface: there's one there's one button ,
Marketing: No nothing really trendy about it .
User Interface: that's wha there's there's there's one function and that's n the one button when you want to find it .
Industrial Designer: But maybe we can maybe we can make the docking station uh uh a bit standard for for uh the other products we sell ,
Marketing: The button .
Industrial Designer: because Real Real Reaction sells more products than only remote controls . So maybe we can uh use the docking station , for example , uh M_P_ three players or or uh
Marketing: Yep .
Industrial Designer: uh hearing devices .
Marketing: I think that's very difficult , because of different shapes of uh uh devices .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but when you put that same volt voltages on it , you can put uh when the when the when uh o the the the lowest part of it , when it's o the same as the other products , you can put it all on the same uh Marketing: Yeah , of course . Mm-hmm . Well it it got it it has got to fit into the shape , of course .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but we can make Marketing: The technology and the voltage can be the same . That's uh that's true . But uh i if you all make the m having a bottom like this , then they all fit .
Industrial Designer: No , we can make uh make the most lowest part all the same .
Marketing: Yeah , that's true , but uh Industrial Designer: When when the the recharger has a has a bit what points out , we can place all on top of it . Just have to be big enough for the biggest Marketing: Yes , but uh I I g Shouldn't it fall then ? It isn't going to fall down ? That's a bit uh Industrial Designer: No , when you make it large enough no it it will not .
Marketing: yeah , I think Industrial Designer: But then it's a little bit Marketing: No , but if if like this , I'll I'll point it out , if you got uh a a a base a base like this ,
Industrial Designer: But it's just an idea .
Marketing: I won't draw it really . If you got a base which is uh as big as this Industrial Designer: But it's flat it's flat as as this , so we can p make all the products as flat as this .
User Interface: You can . But i i i it's backwards .
Marketing: Yeah sure , but if you got if you got a tiny player , it can  Industrial Designer: Yes , but when you make uh uh a bit of big  User Interface: But it's it's backwards . It's leaning . It's leaning backwards , I think , in the in the docking station .
Marketing: Yeah . Uh , wha what you could do if you uh from the bottom User Interface: That's text . Marketing: oh , right , help .
Project Manager: But User Interface: Marketing: Uh , you could make like a hole in it , you know , of uh in in the Industrial Designer: Yes , little holer littler Uh , little products go deeper in it .
Marketing: Yeah . That i that is possible , yep .
Project Manager: Well let's ha let's talk about the docking station later , because uh maybe we have we have to uh consider the docking station anyway , because we have some uh cost issues still to come .
Marketing: Yeah , sure , you're right .
Industrial Designer: Yes . And uh uh
Marketing: Oh .
Project Manager: But we have to look n I don't know .
Industrial Designer: the f the look and feel would be great on this uh remote control , because uh you always uh will uh pick up the remote control in the in the smallest uh area .
Marketing: I don't like the colours . Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Then your uh left thumb of uh your right thumb is uh near the programme uh button , which is the most common used uh function , and all the other buttons are available for your uh thumb .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: So it's it's it's really good design .
Marketing: Yeah . Alright .
Project Manager: Yes . That's it ?
Industrial Designer: Yes , uh on the side uh there will be a strip of rubber , and in the middle uh there is uh a hard uh a hard material , a bit hard plastic with a light uh behind it .
Marketing: The light . Okay . And other lights ?
Project Manager: I think added lights are gonna be a problem too .
Industrial Designer: Yes , we can make also n neon lights on it , or or the buttons that can make uh light on it .
Marketing: No , o on the on the front . Yeah , okay . Maybe the uh the logo .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
User Interface: lights ?
Industrial Designer: But , it will also uh uh use batteries ,
Marketing: Yeah , why not ?
Industrial Designer: and do we want to Marketing: Of course .
Project Manager: Okay . For now , uh this is uh is good enough .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: Yeah , what was uh on the Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: The all the aspects of the interface buttons were uh Project Manager: Okay , but in the oh yeah , the colour , because we're gonna use uh one colour for the the plastic enclosure and one colour for the rubber , isn't it ? Then we're gonna do the buttons in the i are we're gonna have rubber buttons .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: And they're be a  they'll be in the same colour as the rubber on the side .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Uh , in the same colour as the side .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , I think I think that'll be good .
Project Manager: Okay . And I think we should use a a darker colour for the um plastic , and maybe some more m brighter and flashy stuff Industrial Designer: Yes , maybe we can use on the on the lights on the side we can use uh uh multiple uh lights ,
Marketing: Yes .
Industrial Designer: so it will uh Project Manager: Yeah , we'll talk about the lights later . 'Cause I also don yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Yep .
Project Manager: it's depends on the costs and such . But uh , and we have to agree uh upon the exact colours ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: but may I dunno if that's important , but we'll talk about that later . Okay , for now this is this is okay .
Marketing: We will .
Project Manager: Um , the next p y you gonna give a presentation too ? Uh , I have to see the agenda .
Industrial Designer: No .
Marketing: Well , uh yeah , I I'm gonna do something right there , yeah .
Industrial Designer: User Interface: Project Manager: Detail design .
Marketing: We gotta do that on the right  the most right-most screen , because the leftmost