C: Okay .
B: So
B: I see all everybody's here ,
B: 'kay .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: Yep .
B: And we can start meeting .
C: Okay .
A: What's the agenda for this meeting ?
B: The B: I will uh present here agenda with with with with slides to you .
A: Okay .
B: Um as you can see here .
D: C: D: Perfect .
B: So
B: first uh just to mention I will take notes uh of this meeting
A: Mm-hmm .
B: and uh I will try to work them out
B: and give them to you .
B: I've also made notes of the previous meeting
B: and um I was about to send them you
B: but then uh I had to go to this uh meeting
B: so you will get them too uh
A: Mm-hmm .
C: Next .
B: Um .
D: So y you are the secretary also .
B: Yes . Indeed .
D: Right ?
D: Okay .
B: Then I hope you all have uh worked out some some uh some some presentations about uh about well you the the task given to you in the previous meeting .
D: Perfectly yeah yeah of course uh-huh .
C: B: Um . W We will uh in a minute we will uh start with them .
B: Um , we will see in which order we will handle them of .
B: Um then I will uh bring in some some some new requirements
B: I I got uh from the uh account manager ,
B: I try to work them out ,
B: they were quite abstract ,
B: and we can have maybe have com some discussion about it . Uh Um about the functions
A: Mm-hmm .
B: and B: Well
B: in this meeting we should really try to reach a decision about the target group and the functionality of the A: Mm .
D: You mean the social target group who we wants to target ?
B: Yes I mean well yes w who are we going to uh to well to sell this ,
A: Mm .
C: D: Oh the customers , okay .
B: the customers , indeed yes .
A: Yeah .
B: Think that's that's important matter .
A: That's the big question
A: yeah .
B: Uh . So C: B: And then uh we will close this meeting uh
B: and after this meeting we'll uh we'll have a lunch .
B: Good .
B: Um . Maybe um
B: why
B: uh Anna can you c do you have a presentations ?
A: No , I don't .
B: You don't have presentation ?
A: I wasn't . No .
B: Uh you want a table to to uh
A: I c I can talk about it
A: but I have no slides or anything .
B: Yes yes maybe maybe you can uh can just talk about it
B: or maybe you can use the whiteboard if necessary um .
A: Mm-hmm .
A: Well
A: I've just been um presented with some research we've done in a small focus group
A: so ,
A: a hundred people , just asked them about their remote control usage habits and what they want in a remote control . Um .
A: It's A: probably can't email this to you ,
A: I've just got a web page with some data on it .
A: Um basically it's saying that users generally dislike the look and feel of their remote controls .
A: Um seventy five u seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly . Um .
B: Mm-hmm .
A: Eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy .
A: Um . Current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user .
A: Uh seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot ,
A: so they use their remote control quite frequently while they're watching television .
A: Uh . Fifty percent of users say that they only use ten percent of the buttons ,
A: so they've got a remote control with a lot of functionality
A: but really most of the time they only use a small part of that .
B: Mm .
A: Um .
B: Do you Do you have this uh information on the web page you said ?
A: I have an a web page yes .
B: Yes ,
B: mayb maybe you can can send an email to me later uh . Uh about this .
A: Yep . Yep , sure . Mm-hmm .
A: So basically um
A: there's a breakdown of how much they use the different functions on a rem remote control .
A: Um , power and volume selection are only used a few times within this uh per hour .
A: Um , channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight times um A: and then there's things like channel settings , audio settings , which are only used very infrequently .
B: Mm .
A: Um . Teletext is used um fourteen times in the hour ,
A: so it is used but not nearly as much as the channel selection is used . Um .
B: Mm .
A: An interesting thing that this report has brought up
A: is that um fifty fifty percent of users report that the remote control gets lost a lot of the time in the room ,
B: Yes yes ,
A: so some way of some way of locating the remote control would be very useful to a lot of users . Um .
B: I have that too .
D: A: Thirty four percent said it takes too long to learn to use a remote control ,
A: they want something that's easier to use straight away , more intuitive perhaps .
B: Mm .
A: Um .
D: It's it's easy to learn or how do you say it's A: Thirty four percent said it took too much time to learn to use a new one . Yep .
D: Okay too much time to learn . Okay .
A: Um . And thirty twenty six percent said remote controls are bad for R_S_I_ .
D: Not enough A: I don't know how we'd go about combating that .
C: . What do you mean there ?
A: For R_S_I_ ?
A: Respet Repetitive strain injury .
C: Okay .
B: Mm .
A: So . But B: They think that or do their doctor the doctor says ?
A: Mm .
B: But it's it's the opinion of the uh of the users huh ?
A: Yeah . That's what the report says yeah .
B: So mm .
A: Um and then it's got a demographic breakdown
D: Maybe y y you cannot put this webpage online on the A: on A: Uh I should be able to actually , if I email it to you now .
C: You can disconnect it there
B: You can maybe just just C: no ?
D: Ah
D: it's it
A: Oh no , yeah .
D: okay
D: it's a webpage on the C_ it's a file
A: Yeah .
D: okay .
D: O otherwise you yeah . You can connect this one .
A: Um , s hang on .
B: C: Then you can connect this one or this one
C: yeah .
B: C: All to your computer .
D: Yeah .
A: Well .
D: So
D: these are important numbers
D: that Matthew and I need to take into account for our functional um C: Oh yeah .
B: A: Oh
A: I need to muck around with this .
A: It's probably easier if you put it on yours
A: and then I'll just email it to you .
B: Hmm .
A: It's just a web link .
D: Yeah C: Okay .
D: Yeah
D: these numbers have have to be have to be taken into account for the uh both yeah user interface and functional design .
C: Hmm . C: Yeah .
A: One thing it goes on to talk about , which is interesting ,
A: is the A: hang on a minute .
D: Because if there are many numbers
D: and we need to select to to constraint uh our design based on what is more important .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: Mm-hmm .
A: Yep .
A: Um , one thing is interesting is talking about um speech recognition in a remote control .
D: Speech recognition in A: And who would pay more for that and whether people would find it useful .
B: D do you have numbers o o on that ?
D: Ah okay .
A: Yes ,
A: I'll just get this up .
D: So that we don't D: Do we not need any button on the remote control C: B: A: Well
A: potentially yeah , um D: it would be all based on speech .
D: Okay .
A: I think even for interesti
D: Interesting idea .
A: yeah
A: I think that would not work so well .
A: You wanna have both options .
D: Okay .
B: Well
B: it would it would be a solution for uh when your remote control is lost ,
B: I mean when it has speech recognition then uh i then it doesn't matter where it is , my well it's we should be in range ,
A: Mm-hmm .
D: Yeah .
A: Mm .
B: or maybe it can respond and produce sound , so say where it is .
D: Yeah .
B: But the these are all quite fancy features
B: I'm not sure whether we will we can make this for for twelve Euro fi and fifty cents .
C: Well
C: it would be f
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: No you can't .
D: And we don't know where the state of the art of speech recognition is ,
D: maybe you know ?
C: Oh . Well , C: it depends
C: you know like
C: there is uh it's a very small vocabulary that you want to do the operations like you want to say on , off , one , two , twenty three ,
B: Mm .
D: But it's quite noisy if there is the T_V_ uh shouting .
A: Mm .
C: yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: It's it's going to be li
B: Yes ,
B: that that that that's mm .
C: it's not going to be s so easy
C: but u usually it's going to be more of an isolated case
B: Do you have some more important facts
C: but it's but I don't know with twenty fi
D: Okay .
B: or can we go to the next presentation ?
A: Um D: So
D: you had to to to summarise maybe the A: Well A: This is now talking about um who would pay for speech recognition in a remote control , who would pay more for it , um .
A: Ninety percent of the fifteen to twenty five year old market said that they would pay more ,
A: it goes down from there ,
A: seventy six percent for twenty five to thirty five ,
A: thirty five percent for thirty five to forty five ,
A: um twenty two percent for forty five to fifty five
A: and then eight percent for fifty five to sixty five .
B: Mm .
C: Okay
C: it's uh decline .
C: Okay .
A: Yeah .
B: Mm-hmm . Decline with age , mm .
A: But we sh
A: Yeah ,
C: A: it really depends where we're gonna be targeting this product , um ,
B: Mm . D: Mm .
A: which we'll be talking about later I think .
B: Yes . We will talk about it later . A: Did you get the email ?
B: Okay .
B: A: Yep ,
D: Mm-hmm .
A: that one .
A: Just follow that link .
D: D: I thi You us
A: It'll be in a different window , yep .
D: yeah yeah .
A: That's A: left B: A: that one .
A: Yep .
D: Okay perfect . .. .
A: Mm . So
A: that's the figure that I was just talking about there , with the different demographics .
C: Okay .
A: Another thing it's talking about there is the L_C_D_ screen
A: but there's no figures apparently on that .
B: Mm . Okay . um
D: Mm 'kay .
B: Uh maybe uh Mael c c can you give uh uh your presentation uh ?
D: Yeah .
D: Mm I okay
D: I stay B: Oh ,
B: this is C: Now you can move I think
C: yeah .
D: I can move as far as  B: Mm-hmm , y y you can move , uh .
D: Maybe I take your chair ?
D: I
B: Yes . You can you can sa take my chair .
D: okay .
C: It's a channel selection , a module , this and this function ,
A: Sorry ?
C: go to the .
A: Oh .
C: Yeah .
D: So
D: I think as everybody knows uh I'm the uh Industrial Designer .
D: And uh in this presentation uh this group presentation um is gonna focus on the working design of the the remote control .
D: Um I'd like first to give a quick a very simple introduction , how does it work ,
D: so that everybody knows even if you don't have a very uh technical background uh what is it because I think in the product it is important .
A: Mm . D: So basically um
D: the basic function of a remote control is to send uh messages to another system that is fixed .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: And so
D: an energy source feeds an integrated circuit , the chip ,
D: that can compose messages , usually uh through a um infrared bit
A: Mm-hmm .
D: and uh the user interface controls the chip and accordingly the the messages ,
D: alright .
D: So
D: my method for um designing the yeah the work design uh yeah first the
D: the main point is that I would wish to to make a really functional product .
D: I would prefer to have very functional um capabilities rather than fancy stuff that in fact is not used and doesn't work .
B: Mm .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: So
D: for that
D: yeah
D: as it's important to take into account the user requirements from the Marketing uh Expert uh Anna
A: Mm-hmm .
D: and um w to to
D: we should agree on what are the technical functions uh for this remote control
D: and I show you the the working design .
D: So um basically uh
D: here is a really large view of what we want .
D: Uh we want an on off button ,
D: it can be uh D: it's simple
D: but it's it's important , and also uh the to both channels as well as other buttons that come after ,
A: Mm .
D: right .
D: So
D: the components I quickly draw here ,
D: is that
D: in this part you have the remote control the the sender and on the other part the receiver
D: so that's D: my method is um will be to
D: well
D: my aim would be to uh design the and choose the chips and the infrared um components to build the remote control
D: right .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: Mm-hmm .
D: So
D: of course we need energy sources and uh uh the receiver a a receiver .
D: This is very quick uh design ,
D: uh you stop me or interrupt me if uh you don't agree on it on that .
B: Mm-hmm .
D: And um so
D: what I have found and after a lot of work actually I I draw this I draw for you this uh schema
A: Well .
A: B: Uh-huh .
D: that can be maybe too technical for you
D: but is very important for me
D: you know .
A: You drew it a long time ago ?
B: Is huh
D:   And uh that's it so I won't go into details about that
A: Ninety one . B: overwhelming .
A: D: but uh these are my preferences to use uh that kind of components .
B: No .
B: And and why do you want these kind of component ?
D: So . So
B: I mean , are they cheap ,
B: or are they uh reliable ?
B: What were your D: found
D: and yeah th you have always a compromise with uh reliability and uh i if it's expensive ,
B: Mm .
D: but uh this one was not
D: this one also really uh reliable
D: um so yeah
D: that's it for the working design ,
D: uh I hope you get clearer view on uh what what a remote control is uh in terms of uh technical components
B: Yes . It it it's more clear now I think .
D: but maybe
D: yeah B: So  C: But is it
C: uh can you just buy it on the market and f plug it in
C: or you want to ma
D: No no no no
D: we we will uh D: This is a preference
D: but we can always change uh B: Mm-hmm .
B: What I w what I was thinking about uh the the the schema uh about uh the sender and the receiver ,
B: I mean
B: can you can you get back to it ?
D: Yeah .
B: Yeah uh ,
B: the receiver is of course already in the television
B: and we are not uh able to change it .
D: Of course yeah .
B: So we we must adapt to the to the receiver .
B: I I suppose there is a standard uh way of communicating to televisions uh .
D: Yeah .
D: We will use uh infrared protocol uh using yeah infrared
D: and uh
D: and of course we need to adapt to that protocol that already exists
B: Mm-hmm .
D: and
D: but we what we can do is uh uh adapting the the chips inside uh to the best uh chips and uh infrared bubbles .
B: Mm . Mm . Mm . Mm .
B: Yes . Okay .
D: Um . Okay . B: Thank you .
C: Well
C: it to du
C: it's just you had to change the frequencies .
D: The frequencies ?
D: Yeah yeah . Of course yeah
C: Yeah .
D: in the chip you have it
C: But you should be careful ,
D: yeah .
C: people are sometime becoming problem ,
C: like a guy has recently designed a remote
C: uh uh uh which could switch off any other T_V_s , so basically through all the things .
D: That can control o other things .
D: Yeah .
B: Mm .
A: Ah .
C: So maybe we should think of A: D: Of course yeah
D: we should take that into account
B: Yeah yes
A: That's handy .
C: yeah .
B: I I I A: So if the b T_V_ in the next apartment's really loud , you can just turn it off .
D: in the uh C: Yeah
C: so you can just go on the street
C: and then switch off everyone's T_V_ C: and you can just walk away D: C: You don't have to be near the T_V_ at all .
A: Yeah .
B: I I feel I I
A: I like that idea .
B: I think M Mael will will consider this uh th these things .
C: B: Maybe Maybe we can go to to your presentation uh Matthew .
C: Yeah
C: so .
B: I I I assume you were finished here .
D: Yes .
B: Uh okay .
C: Okay . So
C: I can take I think mine now there .
D: Okay .
C: Okay so
C: voila .
A: C: Hmm I can take mine it's okay ,
C: voila ,
C: mm so mm .
C: Okay .
B: Oh . I B: Uh , sorry ?
B: I know where it is .
C: It's on the desktop .
B: It's uh C: Technical function .
B: Yes .
C: Okay .
B: It's uh C: Like so .
B: C: Well . So um
C: I'm going to talk a little bit about the technical function
C: so wha what actually it's about what is the user going to do ,
C: I think my last presented what is going inside ,
A: Mm-hmm .
A: Yep .
C: so what's the user is going to see from the outside
C: and how he is going to use it .
C: So well
C: the approach is that uh
C: basically the idea is to send a message to the T_V_ set ,
C: as Mael has pointed ,
C: and it will be decoded by the T_V_
C: and usually we it is easier to have uh keys or buttons
C: with which people can uh press
C: and then um changing a button will basically uh change the message which is being sent to the T_V_
D: Mm-hmm .
C: and uh um
C: a and basically it sends an internal signal
C: and decoded by the receiver .
C: So
C: p
C: as um Anna has said that this ki people are interested in things which are you don't need to k press the keys ,
C: people are can have a speech recognition
C: but this is uh s a question which will we have to see later .
C: But in the present scenario is that you have certain keys
B: Mm-hmm .
C: and you press it like your mobile phone ,
C: and it sends a message to the T_V_ .
B: Mm .
D: Yep .
C: And um so generally mm
C: I don't have some figures
C: sorry
C: but um so
C: there are two kinds of uh remote if you popularly in the household ,
C: actually so
C: you have a standard T_V_ remote
C: where you have just a on , off button and play , uh volume change and uh keys for the number and more than one digit option .
C: And if you see for example righ right now uh uh even the one uh on more than one digit option is for two digit channel which is like ninety nine ,
C: but tomorrow you might have one fifty channels you know to browse or two hundred channels to browse who knows ,
C: but uh uh .
C: Then there is uh C: this is the standard one with without any fancy thing
C: you know
C: like i it doesn't have teletext option ,
C: it can without any ,
C: it's a very simple thing ,
C: um which which you can vouch .
C: And then you have uh what's the v video remote file
C: which is like
C: usually it has almost all the keys over there
C: and ,
C: but it then it has other options like stop uh and then you play the movie or uh or fo fast forward the movie or something like that so i it has those