Project Manager: Okay . Well thank you everybody . Um we have we'll discuss that and then I just wanna mention some new project requirements that came in . Um , teletext is apparently outdated , so  due to internet popularity , so that's off the list . Um ,
Industrial Designer:  Project Manager: also our remote should be used only for television , um , no extra internet kinda fancy things , just the remote and the television . Um and also we need to incorporate our corporate image onto this , so um the phrase is , we put fashion in electronics , so let's be fashionable I guess . Um if we have something I mean silver and and gold or yellow are our colours , so if we had a like a kind of silver one like you saw , and yellow writing , something like that . Okay . Um . So we need to make some decisions on the remote control functions . Um , yeah . Do Let's Industrial Designer: Project Manager: I guess we should yeah make some kind of brainstorming , see what we can User Interface: Like in terms of
Marketing: How it looks or User Interface: how it looks , or like what it does ?
Project Manager: wha what um well probably our target group and how it's gonna going to appeal to our target group and I dunno the the s
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: the buttons and what it does and that sort of thing . So .
User Interface: Yeah . Okay . So Is our target group then people so do we wanna go ahead and design this thing with the finder button ?
Project Manager: I think that seems to yeah . Mm .
User Interface: So Industrial Designer: It's easy to implement .
User Interface: Okay . So the Marketing: the the buzzer you mean ,
User Interface: yeah , yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Locator .
Marketing: yeah , for sure , yeah .
User Interface: So then our target age group would be the nineteen to thirty five range ,
Project Manager: Yeah , teenagers and young professionals .
User Interface: what was it ?
Marketing: Well that's for speech recognition .
Project Manager: Oh , uh .
Industrial Designer: Well User Interface: Oh .
Marketing: And screen . That's only for speech recognition and screen .
Industrial Designer: I was thinking about that but uh I mean speech recognition is really hard to programme ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and also , if the T_V_ is on it's making sound and the people on the T_V_ are talking , and if somebody says like one , then the T_V_'s gonna switch itself to channel one ,
Marketing: Yeah yeah yeah .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: or it seems like a silly ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I mean Industrial Designer: I'm not sure how you would implement it .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I just put the values in .
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: And if if you consider our budget , it probably User Interface: Marketing: But um the screen is the same as what , Industrial Designer: It's a cool idea but  Project Manager: if you consider our budget , to h have speech recognition programmed in every single remote might be a little pricey .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , I'm happy with that .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Project Manager: Right so um yeah .
User Interface: Hu yeah .
Marketing: Completely .
User Interface: Okay so are we gonna have just some kind of a like we'll have the buzzer on the som like on the T_V_ itself .
Industrial Designer: Well you would have to have a button on a T_V_ or on your wall or some place since the T_V_ already has power .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah you click the button , it's gonna send out a signal , and I was thinking , I_R_ is line of sight , so unless the remote is like actually in front of the T_V_ it's not gonna work , um so probably like a radio signal like on a on a cell phone .
User Interface: Okay . Okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Sends out a signal and then the the remote hears the signal and so it beeps probably .
User Interface: Alright .
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: So you you'd need like a separate base for that or like something you can Industrial Designer: It would have to be sold separately because if the sender's on the remote then you'd have to find the remote first to click the button to find the remote .
Project Manager: right . Yeah , yeah .
Marketing: So do you plug it in the T_ you plug it in T_V_ , this thing ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it'd probably just stick it on your T_V_ so if you need to find the remote , click the button .
Marketing: Okay . Okay .
User Interface: So it's now like a two-part thing .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , so it would be a two part package .
User Interface: Okay . Alright .
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: So we get to design that too .
Industrial Designer: User Interface: Make it fashionable . Um , okay .
Project Manager: So do you think even though we're not talking about speek speech recognition our target group should still be teenagers and young professionals .
Industrial Designer: Yeah I think so .
Marketing: Yeah . Just there .
Project Manager: Huh . Okay .
Marketing: Mm . Are we um should that thing be on the thing to put the you s you talking about a home for it .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Do you still want to build a little thing next to the telly or to p hang on the wall or shall we leave that for now ?
Project Manager: We probably leave that . I mean I guess one takes care of the other , like um if you can yeah if you can call it then it's Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: Yeah . Then it can live anywhere .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Okay . For the so you have that button , that so there's is there a light or shall we leave just have a radio ?
Industrial Designer: Um on the T_V_ or on the phone ?
Marketing: Are we just having a radio ? On the phone .
Industrial Designer: Um it seemed like a a beep seemed the most reasonable to me ,
User Interface: T
Marketing: You don't need a light . Yeah yeah yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I think that's what the phone has ,
Marketing: Yeah yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I mean when you need to find your phone , you just have someone call it and it starts ringing somewhere and then you can figure out that it's in the couch or wherever .
Project Manager: And like if the if the phone's under the couch , you might not see the light , so
Marketing: You can hear it's under the couch yeah .
Project Manager: yeah .
User Interface: So i Yeah .
Marketing: Um ,  So need the other buttons . So we have this mm .
Project Manager: So I mean the two remotes that you had shown r I don't remember who showed them , yeah you you did um ,
Industrial Designer: User Interface: That was that was me .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Project Manager: they're I mean one looked like it was for V_C_R_ type thing , and the other looked like just television .
User Interface: I think w I think they're both sort of just like general remo they're both general remotes .
Project Manager: Oh really . 'Cause that that is something we have to decide , is whether we want to have V_C_R_ capabilities .
User Interface: And uh
Industrial Designer: Does anyone know if V_C_R_s are the same across international ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: They're not no .
Marketing: They're not , no .
Industrial Designer: Okay , so you'd need like a whole different set of buttons for everybody's V_C_R_s .
User Interface: S
Project Manager: Yeah , that's right , yeah .
Marketing: It not V_H_S_ here ?
Project Manager: But D_V_D_ probably is .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , other than that region and coding thing .
User Interface: Um Project Manager: And and if we're if we're targeting young professionals and teenagers , I mean it's gonna be D_V_D_ type , that's the the technology these days .
Marketing: But V_C_R_s Yeah . Yeah , for sure .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah . So . Okay , let's see if I can I think still though , it shouldn't be that hard to take like just reduce the number of buttons you know ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: like 'cause if you just have like one menu button , that works like with a you know , or you can just kind of scroll through the options u that come up on the T_V_ .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Well for sure we need the um I think we can just design the channels ? I mean power's just a button , and it's not used that much ,
Project Manager: S
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Huh .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: s and it's usually that red
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: and I think it's quite nice to keep it like red .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: You know , I've seen some remotes that where you just hold one , like if you hold one down it's it's a different colour than the other buttons but that turns it on . So you don't actually have a separate power button , it's just Marketing: Oh okay , yeah .
User Interface: It seems like that would be hard though .
Project Manager: But User Interface: I mean , like because unless you know Project Manager: It might be confusing . Yeah .
User Interface: yeah . Just 'cause I wouldn't I would probably pick it up and just be like uh why is there no on button . Project Manager: Yeah . Besides you like to be able to go power .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I never think to hold something down . Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: I have the power User Interface: Yeah . B Yeah .
Project Manager: I guess . So we definitely want a power button and numbers . Right .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Well even um iPod thing  , like um , I don't know if people like this but if you want to reduce the number , of buttons , instead of having like one to nine , have a sort of
User Interface: That sort of like joystick flat touch thing , yeah .
Marketing: scrolling I don't know .
Project Manager: Mm . Industrial Designer: Marketing: Yeah . Because people li seem now the iPod's out people seem to like this thing that there's no Know you don't have one two three four five User Interface: Yeah , yeah . I think that's an interesting idea , 'cause it's cool ,
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: it's it's funny like you f like I just I don't have an iPod but like I , you know , I just like started messing around with one of my friend's the other day , and you just sort of and it's funny how you pick it up and you just figure out how to use it quite easily , like it's not that hard , you know .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah yeah , it's just and it's one thing which has everything .
User Interface: Yeah , and it is yeah . It is really but do you need a screen then , do you have to have a screen then ?
Marketing: Well can't it tell the like can't you if you Industrial Designer: Yeah , you can have the number going around in the corner .
User Interface: Yeah . Okay .
Marketing: you can have the number on the telly going like one two three four five once you scroll and then User Interface: Yeah . Yeah . Okay so we have this like scrolling sort of button .
Project Manager: Oh that's gonna Is that like on on a mouse pad where like kind of User Interface: Like a disc . Yeah . Yeah . It's like it's just like the same technology as a mouse pad .
Project Manager: okay . I've never used one . No .
Marketing: It's like l this like that , and then you do that .
Project Manager: Okay . Okay .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah and then .
Marketing: And then you can have um  if you actually just want to zap , you can have like a thing like that , and that , and then it can just be plus and minus .
User Interface: Okay . So like it's like a little part of the circle that Or it oh so it's just a region of the circle that you can Marketing: Yeah , you can Project Manager: Well i
User Interface: zap .
Marketing: Yeah , click o actually click on to have User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: We could we could even have four buttons , like , if that's the if that's the mouse , you could have the volume and the channel changers just like on that as well .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . So volume could be like the top it and the bottom So do you need to Industrial Designer: Doesn't it rotate though ,
User Interface: okay .
Industrial Designer: so it'll be moving around .
User Interface: Well y you have to you have to like be able to change the function of it to like Marketing: What do you mean the function ?
User Interface: I mean like okay , 'cause so I dunno , I guess Okay so when you g scroll your thumb like around it , it'll s like say you're go you're going clockwise . That that means you're gonna go up the channels , and then you scroll the other way and it'll go down .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: But then Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: so if you wanna switch to the to u do you have to switch to a function where like y so you're either in that mode or you're in the mode where like it just has like the four like you know this is channel that way , that's that way and volume is up and down .
Marketing: Yeah but it knows for some reason .
User Interface: It just Marketing: The iPod knows .
User Interface: It just kno the iPod knows . S
Project Manager: Industrial Designer: If it works on an iPod then it works .
Marketing: Project Manager: Huh .
User Interface: Yeah . So you just you just can either do this or like you can just touch it if you want .
Industrial Designer: I don't have one .
Marketing: Well for the volume you have to press the middle , and then go up .
User Interface: Okay . That's what I mean . Okay . Okay so you have to like press this middle region and then you can scroll up , go up and down .
Industrial Designer: Oh .
Project Manager: So it's like holding Marketing: And then well if you do that it goes , but if you like that makes more sense 'cause there's already ones with up and down here , that I've seen .
Project Manager: You can o And you you is there an extra actual button ? Or are you actually you're just using the mouse to go up and down .
Marketing: Well what you Project Manager: Like User Interface: It's like a b
Marketing: for the iPod you press an w right if you're on the channel let's say , then you press on the middle and then if you do that again the volume goes up , and if you do that it goes down .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm . Right . Mm-hmm .
Marketing: But if you wanna keep it with volume here and here , I'm pretty sure Project Manager: Well I mean if if you're gonna this for channels , right , then y wouldn't the volume need to be separate somehow ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Like you could just have Marketing: I don't know ,
Project Manager: Oh , like Marketing: you could click and then have it up and down ,
Project Manager: Oh you could actually User Interface: Like Marketing: but I think User Interface: I think we can go on the fact that it does just work with the iPod .
Marketing: Yeah yeah yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: But the only thing is like , iPods are so expensive , like , it has to be is that part of Project Manager: Is that what makes them expensi I think it's all of Industrial Designer: I don't think so .
User Interface: yeah , I dunno , I dunno .
Project Manager: they have so much memory though , that's it's User Interface: You don't think so ? Okay .
Industrial Designer: I don't think it's the wheel dealy .
Marketing: I think it Project Manager: Yeah . I think it's the uh h it's their capabili I mean they it can hold what like five thousand songs or something .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . .
User Interface: Yeah . I'm thinking we could if if we're hav So ba I mean but an iPod just has that circle thing you know .
Industrial Designer: And they're re-programmable aren't they ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: You can put on your songs and then put on a different set ,
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: that's probably why they're expensive , they're like little computers .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: S
User Interface: Yeah . Well like since it just has the circle thing , you could make it a qui a kind of cool shape , like it could be a cool sort of you know , because it could be circular , you know , or something weird like that , just Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Marketing: Yeah yeah yeah . Well it could just be simple instead of being a l mass . Because , the other thing , I didn't tell you all my presentation , is that people find it find that it's a big waste of time to have to learn how to use your remote
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: and that's another thing they complained about .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Um , what other buttons were there ? Volume oh we've ts just said that .
User Interface: So okay .
Marketing: Channel selection .
User Interface: This is just for T_V_ , it's not for or it is does need to be compatible with Project Manager: Um Industrial Designer: I A D_V_D_ is simple , you just have play , pause , eject ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: You know actually our our new project requirements , I'm not sure if they meant o onl use only for television as in not for D_V_D_ or just not internet type things .
User Interface: So how do you switch Marketing: Menu .
Industrial Designer: and menu maybe . Oh yeah .
Project Manager: So I'll I'll check that and update you on the next User Interface: Okay . So like if we had that Project Manager: But we'll hold off on that 'cause User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: But s yeah uh .
Marketing: But D_V_D_ players usually have their own remote .
User Interface: That's true , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: So , I know I'm not c really clear on what Industrial Designer: But it's cool to have it all on one , because you wanna turn it on then you wanna turn up the volume , and then you wanna go to the menu , so you don't wanna switch .
User Interface: Yeah , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Project Manager: Mm . Mm .
User Interface: So you'd have to have like Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: I think you would have to have like a function switch button , you know somewhere so like you can you're either on T_V_ , you're on D_V_D_ or you're on V_C_R_ , or you're like . So Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Well but D_V_D_ is only like four buttons .
User Interface: Yeah ,
Marketing: Yeah , it is only fun
User Interface: but I mean like to switch the fun so like to switch the function of the little circle disc , the touch pad .
Project Manager: But i Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Oh . But I think the circle only does channel isn't applicable to D_V_D_ really 'cause you don't wanna User Interface: Yeah but it it would be Industrial Designer: but volume is and volume is actually controlled on the T_V_ so you don't have to switch .
User Interface: So but I'm saying like , does it make sense to have like some kind of a button , so like you're if you're on T_V_ , like you can switch channels , but then if uh if you're on D_V_D_ then like the channel bu like the the region of the disc that was for channels is for like switching to different tracks or s you know , to different I mean do we need to think about that ,
Project Manager: Um , yeah , let's think about it
User Interface: that like Industrial Designer: Yes we can try that .
Project Manager: 'cause we need to wrap up .
User Interface: Project Manager: