Marketing: of put it in a recharger . Charger .
Project Manager: So we are going for the for the recharger .
User Interface: Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , if it's . Uh .
User Interface: If it's sensible . Marketing: Yeah , because when you're watching T_V_ , you're zapping and you have to put it in a recharger ,
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah , b when the batteries are low Industrial Designer: No ,
Marketing: and I don't think it Industrial Designer: when you when you're done with s uh w uh watching your television , you have to put it Marketing: Yeah , okay , but then we have to be sure that the the the the batteries go hours , six hours , five , six hours , then .
User Interface: But you'll also forget to put it in ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah sure , of course .
User Interface: because you throw it on the couch
Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
Marketing: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: but Marketing: then you have a problem .
User Interface: and you don't remember .
Industrial Designer: But you also forget to buy batteries ,
User Interface: Yeah . That's right .
Industrial Designer: and then you can you can't use it ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: so I Marketing: Or we have to be sure that the batteries last couple of days when they're recharged .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Well I think the batteries should should w should work a lot longer than a couple of days ,
Marketing: So .
User Interface: or not ?
Marketing: Yeah because you have b
User Interface: 'Cause Marketing: but you have L_C_D_ screen .
User Interface: Yeah , that's right , but Marketing: High power usage .
Industrial Designer: High power user cell , i uh it should be uh a standard move to to put your remote control in the charger when you're done watching television ,
Marketing: Yes .
Industrial Designer: that's also a a a great advantage because you can't lose it anymore . Because you are obliged to uh put it in the charger and not to uh leave it in a couch uh between some cushions .
Marketing: True . Yeah . Yeah . True .
User Interface: Yeah . Right . Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: Yeah , you made a point there .
User Interface: But then you also have to s have somewhere where you can put a remo recharger near your couch
Project Manager: Yeah , also .
User Interface: because otherwise you have to walk a long way when you twoft want to turn on the T_V_ .
Marketing: Yeah , otherwise all your yeah . Just a small device .
User Interface: Yeah . I think everything has it for and I guess .
Industrial Designer: Yeah it hasn't It doesn't have to be big .
Marketing: Plug it in , that's it . Yeah , like a like telephone charger or something .
Industrial Designer: Yeah just just a cable , or a even a a a a a charger where you can mount it on . Something like that ,
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: just u
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
User Interface: Alright .
Project Manager: Okay , well I've
Marketing: It has to be easy to use also , or things . Uh market share , speaker re speech recognition .
Project Manager: Yeah , you have some more
User Interface: Project Manager: points .
Industrial Designer: Functional designs uh for the elderly uh you could make it possible to enlarge the screen ,
Marketing: I think .
Industrial Designer: so make it possible to not uh display uh a button at ten points
Marketing: Also .
Industrial Designer: uh , or Marketing: Well I think that this should be standard . Large button large buttons .
Industrial Designer: Yeah but it is uh one of the functions you have to uh specify .
Marketing: Yeah ? Okay .
Industrial Designer: Because we can look at uh uh perhaps uh forty buttons at a screen , but the elderly only look at two buttons .
Project Manager: Marketing: Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: .
Project Manager: And you said something about speech recognition ?
Marketing: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Speech recognition ?
Marketing: it says also Industrial Designer: Hello .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Twelve Euro
User Interface: twelve fifty , twelve fifty . Industrial Designer: twelve Euro fifty .
Marketing: Twelve . That's an also ninety one percent sixteen to twenty five , twenty six to thirty five years , seventy six percent , and thirty six to forty five , thirty five percent .
User Interface: So it's pretty big .
Industrial Designer: Well , spread it by a big market .
Marketing: But then I I I Project Manager: Even bigger than for L_C_D_ . User Interface: Yeah . W I know let's do a speech . Industrial Designer: Well
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: let's leave out all the remote controls and just put a microphone on top of the television to User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Ninety . Twenty five .
User Interface: You can clap or something . Industrial Designer: Yeah Yeah .
Marketing: channel .
Industrial Designer: Turn volume up .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Hey , that that's an idea . Marketing:  User Interface: Now you shouldn't say the wrong thing , I dunno .
Industrial Designer: Okay , well
Marketing: Yeah . Industrial Designer: that should it has to be remote control , not Marketing: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: twelve .
User Interface: But they want to talk into the remo remote control , or something ,
Industrial Designer: Sure why not why not Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: or ? Marketing: Is this only would you would you pay more for speech recognition in a remote control . It's the only thing it says .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , mm .
User Interface: Oh , but do we want to implement that , or ?
Marketing: I think an L_C_D_ screen should be suf sufficient .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: But when you look at the percentages Marketing: Yeah , it says a lot , but Project Manager: Speech recognition scores even higher , huh ?
Industrial Designer: Perhaps the options should be uh Why not ?
User Interface: Project Manager: Yeah , well ,
Industrial Designer: Why not ?
Project Manager: maybe because of the cost , but uh nobody knows uh how much uh it will cost uh .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Let's hope uh to have some uh d
User Interface: I know Marketing: No I think I think it's better to have L_ L_C_D_ screen , because in the area of tw thirty six to forty five , we have about thirty percent of the market share in in our hands , and fifty five of those people want L_C_D_ screen and thirty five want speech recognition . So I think it's better to keep it with L_C_D_ screen .
Project Manager: But would it be useful to imple implement both ?
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: On one remote ?
Marketing: Yeah , if the costs al allow it . Project Manager: Or User Interface: Well Project Manager: Yeah , I dunno .
User Interface: I don't know if that can be done with the cost of twelve fifty .
Marketing: Nee .
User Interface: With that uh Marketing: If it should be done , if it could be done , I won't matter . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: We should do it . Yeah . Sure .
User Interface: but how would you like to implement that , that you say volume up , and then it goes up ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: or ?
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Uh .
Industrial Designer: Certain systems already exist , I think .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Then you also have to have different languages if we go international . Then uh it's y it's yours to do a French and Dutch and English
Marketing: True .
Industrial Designer: True , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . True .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: But that should also be with f should be also with L_C_D_ screen .
Industrial Designer: This should be uh accommodated with some software , uh , uh . Yeah .
Marketing: Because then I think in Chinese is different written , volume is different written than um Swahili or something .
User Interface: Yeah , that's right . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Right . Swahili . Swahili .
User Interface: Yeah you can use icons for the
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: a speaker and uh Marketing: Ja , well possible .
Industrial Designer: Indeed .
User Interface: But if that's better than language for the for the remote .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah yeah yeah Industrial Designer: Yeah . So we want to uh yeah it's international uh okay .
User Interface: Then it's Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: 'Kay , what else ?
Project Manager: So , no speech recognition ? Or   User Interface: Well , if it could be done , we Marketing: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Y it should be done . If it could be done , should be done .
Marketing: we have to keep Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . Project Manager: Yeah , and then we have different languages .
User Interface: Yeah , that should be uh anything matters .
Industrial Designer: That's not so difficult at all ,
Project Manager: Okay , just make a separate remote for each uh Industrial Designer: because I already use on several voice operated systems , and they are all possible to uh not all , but User Interface: Well , you sh you should to adjust the thing .
Marketing: I think it's difficult . Every language of dialects User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I think it's very differen difficult .
User Interface: And you have to speak the so that it can understand .
Marketing: Yeah . I think it can't be implemented , but maybe User Interface: You could use that n as an option , if you have money left , or something . Marketing: Yeah , 's an option , yes .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , sure , indeed .
Marketing: Fifty Euro cents .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: User Interface: Let's do speech .
Industrial Designer: For speech recognition .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , so we only do this when we have enough money left .
User Interface: Yeah . Project Manager: Okay . Well I've written down an an on or off button , volume selection , channel selection , uh the digits from one to zero , huh . Um or from zero to nine . Uh a digits button to switch uh between one and two digits , mute button , a separate menu for teletext , a battery indicator . Um we're going to use a docking station and uh probably L_C_D_ and if there's enough money , speech recognition . And uh the possibility to uh enlarge buttons or to have large buttons
User Interface: Mm . Yeah .
Marketing: Mm , yes .
Project Manager: in general .
User Interface: I With uh teletext if it wasn't ver very important , it was but Marketing: No , but User Interface: You also now have colours . I don't know if we should implement that . Yeah ,
Marketing: Curved ?
User Interface: when you press the red button , you go to page one hundred two , and when you press the Industrial Designer: Uh yeah .
User Interface: I don't know if we should implement that ,
Marketing: Um .
User Interface: because it says that teletext not really important ,
Industrial Designer: S Shortcuts . Uh .
User Interface: but yeah , the shortcut , and you can't go to sport .
Marketing: I think we should we could that we could also implement a audio settings , screen settings and channel settings , but as sub-menus .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: D Mainly if you turn the uh remote control on , you have to u you have to see from one till zero , channel and volume . And if you want to use teletext screen or audio , then you can press it .
Industrial Designer: Sh Yeah , just just sub-menu . Yeah .
Marketing: It should be available but not
User Interface: 'Cause it should be there .
Industrial Designer: Not directly uh available .
Marketing: not Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: Okay , so not too much teletext support , but in a separate menu , and Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: So actually it is there but it's just not r ready there .
Marketing: Yeah , but s
Industrial Designer: Directly available .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So does it confuse uh the user ?
User Interface: You'll have to search for it . Marketing: They'd have to be easy to use .
Industrial Designer: Uh . I'll search um .
User Interface: Industrial Designer: If you want to use teletext , you can push the teletext button and then the options uh become available .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah , that's a Marketing: The sign of it .
Project Manager: Okay , but no more buttons or functions , or ?
User Interface: I guess not .
Industrial Designer: No .
Marketing: Uh , no . What else can you do with a television ?
User Interface: We've got anon
Project Manager: Aren't we forgetting something very important ?
User Interface: Have got got two examples here , but I don't think there's anything we're missing .
Marketing: Uh play , pause , doesn't n need to be there .
User Interface: Well , we don't have the video orders Marketing: Yes , so this is your presentation . We could check the other remote controls with technical functions .
User Interface: Yeah , you could look here all the the Marketing: Which ones were yours ?
User Interface: Uh th th th th I don't know , technical functions .
Marketing: Techni
User Interface: They're a bit small , you can we should stretch them , because  Project Manager: Ping .
Marketing: Ja ja ja ja ja . Technical functions . Yeah okay .
User Interface: I guess we've got them all .
Marketing: Uh I think I go to have volume , mute but I Yeah . Very slow . Yeah , the zoom buttons .
User Interface: And for a T_V_ ? Can you zoom in a T_V_ ?
Marketing: Yeah , b wide screen , high screen , different things you have ,
User Interface: Or that you can put 'em on uh on on wide and Marketing: yeah different uh User Interface: yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: But that should also be a sub then , a sub uh menu thing .
Industrial Designer: Menu .
Marketing: Yeah it should be available , but then in separate screen settings or something .
User Interface: Yeah , so we should also implement se screen settings .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah , screen settings , audio settings , teletext settings you have .
User Interface: Oh right . Yeah .
Marketing: Channel settings .
User Interface: Yeah , so you can program the Marketing: So those four , and of course the main .
User Interface: Yeah , so the first you see the main , and the other ones you can uh go to uh Marketing: Yeah . Yeah . Like tap screens or something
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: or , I dunno .
User Interface: I hope we can do this . Marketing: Something Industrial Designer: There are a lot of options depending uh on what kind of television you got .
Marketing: Yeah , if uh Industrial Designer: 'Cause if you don't got a wide screen television you don't need the uh the screen settings
Marketing: No , you don't yu a no you then you don't no ni don't Industrial Designer: uh for uh Marketing: then you don't use it .
Industrial Designer: Yeah and if the television does not support such uh operations
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: We don't have to use that top . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: So you leave it alone .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Or it could be possible to have a a standard version of the remote , an expanded version .
User Interface: Yeah . And do we want them in different colours , or  Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: And and the buttons , should they have colours ?
Marketing: Colours . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Colours I think the main colour of the remote control is uh the colour of the L_C_D_ screen .
User Interface: Oh but we don't have any buttons . Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I Because we don't want a lot a devi yeah a device self s g
Marketing: Yeah , then defines itself . Because uh how many percent ? Eighty percent ?
User Interface: They think it's ugly , right ?
Marketing: Would spend more money if it looks fancy .
Industrial Designer: Okay , so use uh very uh lot of peo User Interface: Perhaps you can uh make adjustable fronts , like with the telephones .
Industrial Designer: Adjust with phones , yes User Interface: You can uh  But I don't think that uh  Industrial Designer: Okay . Twelve Euro fifty . Well , make it available in different colours , you mean ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Sure .
Marketing: Yeah . Industrial Designer: Red , white , blue , black . User Interface: Project Manager: And a see-through uh
Marketing: Rasta colours .
Industrial Designer: Grey .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah sea view , yes , Simpson's versions and  Marketing: Yeah , see through version . Yeah . If you press a button , it turns green .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , well
Industrial Designer: Leave . Project Manager: that's the
User Interface: A disco version .
Project Manager: signal for las final five minutes .
User Interface: Five minutes ?
Project Manager: Um so I have uh the things I just read . Um then we have uh separate menus for teletext , screen settings , audio settings , and what else ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Channel settings ?
User Interface: Oh yeah , right .
Project Manager: Channel settings .
User Interface: So you can program the T_V_ .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Perhaps you should you'd throw them on on in one pile . So , options , and then you sub them .
Marketing: Yeah . Could be possible .
User Interface: Otherwise you have all those teletext , perhaps teletext not ,
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: but Marketing: Or like uh you have a menu button , you press Project Manager: No , we said teletext also a separate menu .
User Interface: Yeah , but I Marketing: Yeah , or otherwise you have a menu button , press menu then you have uh main uh menu search uh all the all the settings .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , but we can work that out later , I guess .
User Interface: But Marketing: Yeah , no problem . Yep .
Project Manager: So we're having a a general menu with the most used functions , uh teletext , screen settings , audio settings , channel settings , and maybe there are options for the remote itself ? Like uh large icons or small icons
User Interface: I don't know .
Project Manager: and I don't know what else ,
Marketing: Um ,
Project Manager: but Industrial Designer: No .
Marketing: I think b because we don't have a lot of buttons on the one screen ,
User Interface: Or do we have any buttons ? On the remote .
Marketing: I think the buttons Yeah , but but or like you have
User Interface: Which one ?
Marketing: you only have channel button or volume button . Those buttons you can you can Project Manager: Yeah , but on the L_C_D_ ,
User Interface: But that's also in the L_C_D_ ,
Project Manager: huh ?
User Interface: right ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Right , yeah , okay . User Interface: So we don't have any normal buttons
Marketing: Yeah , th
User Interface: that uh Marketing: No , no normal buttons , yeah .
User Interface: No , alright .
Marketing: Maybe only the on and o on and off button .
User Interface: Yet on and off is p is perhaps you kno
Project Manager: But we don't need a special Industrial Designer: Uh not button Marketing: But I don't think Project Manager: we don't need a special options menu for the remote itself .
User Interface: No , no .
Marketing: Mm , no .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Oh well , you should be able to set which T_V_ you have . If you have if you have uh Industrial Designer: Yeah sure , of course you need uh a settings button , uh or a settings option for the remote control .
User Interface: Yeah . But isn't idea to use uh uh what you said , uh normal on and off button for the T_V_ , that you don't have to use a Marketing: No no no , because we we discussed that you could charge it , otherwise is it it jumps to stand-by mode automatically .
User Interface: Yeah but but not for the remote but for the T_V_ , that you use Marketing: Yeah , but a T_V_ of course , th that's the I think that's a best thing is that to implement that one in the menu with the volume and channel .
User Interface: But a not as normal button , in the L_C_D_ ,
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: Well maybe there should be a separate button apart from the L_C_D_ ,
User Interface: yeah .
Project Manager: because you can't turn it on when the L_C_D_ is off . So how do you turn the thing on ? There has to be a on button on the remote ,
User Interface: No you just tap I think .
Project Manager: huh ?
Industrial Designer: Just tap it .
Marketing: Yeah , you tap .
Project Manager: Tap the thing . Okay .
Marketing: Touch screen , yeah then it's turn turn off , turn on .
Project Manager: And then the television is on also , or just the remote ?
Marketing: No , just the remote .
User Interface: But Marketing: A television don't have to be on , that one you can press on ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it should be in standby mode , but Marketing: yeah stand-by , then press on remote , press on and then T_V_ should be available . Or not .
User Interface: Yeah a yeah . I don't know whether it's handy to have a n a normal on button , a r just uh rubber uh for for T_V_ ,
Marketing: Separate .
User Interface: so you can turn it on and then you can choose the channel . Otherwise you I don't know whether or not that's Industrial Designer: A A A normal button on the remote control ,
User Interface: Yeah , yeah . To turn it on .
Industrial Designer: or norm ?
User Interface: Of or you should put it in the L_C_D_ screen .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , because uh when you touch the L_C_D_ screen when it is in standby mode , it should pop on .
User Interface: Yeah , I have ,
Project Manager: Okay , well