C: You have to use one hand .
A: It f it fits your hands and then you just push the button that you use most with thumb .
D: Nah D: I don't agree with the long box uh shape D: it it has to be custom made for the hand .
C: Why not ?
B: Yeah it doesn't fit .
A: Tho tho those new D_V_D_ players on the market do have those .
D: Yeah .
C: But it does fit in the hand if you hold it like this ,
C: and you can make it another shape ,
D: Yeah but if you shape it C: but then you have B: No if y if you look at new Phillips uh D_V_D_ with their uh remotes pl players they they are the new remotes aren't box shaped .
D: If D: A: D_V_D_ players . Yes . C: W no w what else ?
D: No that's ol old fashioned .
C: I di
B: Well B: Yeah .
C: Yeah well but uh what what what do you suggest then ?
D: I can imagine that us
B: Yes uh B: Well most of of them are are somewhat thicker at the end ,
B: and get um yeah thinner towards the uh the other end .
D: Yeah right .
D: It fits in your palms .
C: Hmm . Well B: Mm .
C: but it's still then uh the the long box ,
C: uh but then with some uh round uh round forms in it to fit your hand ,
B: Yeah
B: it D: Hmm ?
A: Well A: A it h it has it it has a that's tha th th shape that it fits your hand .
D: Um .
C: but it's it's still C: Yeah yeah al alright
C: but but it's still it's still sort of box , yeah .
A: That's D: .
C: It it has round forms
D: Well B: Yeah yea
C: but it in the end it's still the box , so that's what I mean .
D: Yeah but it has it has to fit your hand .
C: Yeah yeah I understand ,
D: It shouldn't be too boxy , you know .
C: but no no I don't mean an entire box like completely square
D: It's B: Hmm .
D: No no no .
A: B: C: but a also with round edges of course ,
B: .
C: but in in in at the end it's still this long box shape with convenient uh round uh shapes uh to fit .
D: Yeah .
A: D: Right
D: maybe something like this
C: Yeah yes D: and then a button here to switch between different systems like D_V_D_ player
C: I thought about something like that .
C: Yeah .
D: and so you can I've C: A big recognisable button on top or something .
D: Yeah right ,
D: and I do think we have to keep this kind of idea with the with the numbers and  B: Yeah .
A: We have five minutes left .
C: The buttons should uh also be not too small , not too big , of course ,
D: Right .
B: C: and uh n uh uh not too close uh together .
A: Yes
A: uh that's yep .
D: But it should be possible to to um make it ap apparent that there are two functions for every button .
A: Yep .
D: So there has to be some space between the buttons .
C: Uh-huh .
C: Yeah of course uh to uh to uh to have icons to explain the different functions .
D: Yeah .
D: Yeah right right ,
C: Yeah .
D: and maybe we should use colours .
C: Colours , yeah .
B: Yeah maybe we can um just like on cell phones those um well  you can you can put on on them ,
D: Yeah .
A: Ha .
B: and so you can customise your uh your own remote with different colours or or special paint jobs D: That's kinda trendy .
D: Yeah right .
B: I dunno but A: Sound nice . Yes .
C: I think we have to talk also about uh the the materials for um B: Well  A: Well it's just uh about our first ideas now
C: .
A: so I think individually we'll have to uh come up with ideas for the next meeting about these materials and markets etcetera .
D: Right .
C: D: But D: I think it's uh it's important to uh notate all the the decisions that we make ,
C: Already thought about something tha A: Yes ?
A: Yes .
D: so we  A: Well thirty minutes we have .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: So um B: A: This is about uh what we are going to uh do uh .
A: You'll get specific instructions when you're back in your room so uh it's uh logical uh . I think .
D: Yeah .
B: .
D: No problem .
A: Oh and uh that's uh that's all .
A: So we'll just get a notice that the the meeting is uh over .
C: Yeah now we can still talk about the material ,
A: Yeah yes say .
C: we have some some minutes left uh B: Mm .
C: I w wrote down uh that the case should be plastic of course , hard plastic ,
D: Yeah .
C: the buttons should be uh rubbery I think uh .
D: Yeah it shouldn't be too heavy .
B: .
C: No n n
B: .
A: Well I have had remotes that um they had uh the function of the buttons was about uh uh a layer over the buttons
A: and when I've had use it much it was gone .
B: Yeah that's bad , yeah .
D: Yeah yeah yeah .
A: So it has to be made in the buttons I think .
A: It has to uh not be loose .
B: Yeah that's important .
C: Mm . Alright .
C: And of course there are several electrical cables in it to uh to connect things uh to each other .
A: Yeah .
A: Is there an a universal uh universal way of um transmitting from the remote to the television
A: so it's all about uh D: Yeah it's univ yeah yeah yeah .
C: I think so .
C: It's a a common stan standard way A: It's not that in China it's different ?
D: Yep .
C: infrared beams an infrared beam I think .
A: Yeah .
A: But y you can have uh of course different between D_V_D_s and televisions and between D: And you can use C: It it's a we we make an a universal remote so it ha has to work with uh all kinds of brands and things .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: But our T_V_s are mostly made in China and that sort of country , so A: Probably yes .
D: A: China rules . B: C: C: And have well yeah
C: I've wrote something down about how it works . C: The user presses a button and with an infrared beam it signals the television set accordingly ,
A: D: But are C: but that's pretty obvious , I think . D: Are we going w uh with the front uh fronts uh idea ?
B: A: A: Well I think uh w we can look into that in the in the next uh thirty minutes .
D: I think we should make it universal
A: Yeah .
D: and you can always use a front front on it , you know ?
D: You can use it just plain
A: Yes .
D: but you can  To make it more trendy .
B: .
A: Well j just y you get a n a normal front with it ,
A: but you can change them uh when you buy the B: Yeah .
D: Right .
B: Yes . Yes .
D: Right .
A: And we should uh dispatch those kind of fronts fronts a a around the world so uh B: Mm .
D: Yeah .
B: Well you can make profit with them ,
B: and it's a way to make them trendy .
A: Well th those fifty million don't uh don't se sells itself A: so we have to uh make uh some extra effort like fronts uh .
C: Well but th but the standard front will be uh just grey or something
D: Yeah right .
B: Yeah alright .
B: Yeah normal .
C: uh b a simple colour not not very flashy .
A: Yes .
A: Yeah well it has to it h it has to fit the the te television and D_V_D_ set we are going to sell ,
B: No a colour everyone accepts .
A: so if they are uh black and black black and silver we'll make them black and silver so B: Mm .
C: Pink television sets pink remote , .
B: Mm .
D: Yeah yeah yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: standard .
D: But people of often don't like bright colours or something .
A: .
D: We have to make it grey or s or black .
B: Well young people s li
D: Yeah but then you can use a a front .
B: Yeah yeah , yeah .
C: Alright .
A: Yeah .
C: I must not forget my pen the next time . A: Well if if you B: A: yeah . A: If you have a a a television room for little children and you make a if if you buy a a pink front they'll they'll love it .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah that's right .
A: I think .
D: Yeah or a t Teletubby front . A: But that's uh marketing uh research you can uh you can ask uh . D: Yeah yeah yeah .
D: I will investigate .
A: Yes .
A: A: Well our user interface you can uh maybe uh I don't know what your specific instructions will be , but uh probably about uh the precision of the buttons and and those kind of things and what buttons will have to be on the uh remote .
A: And you will look into the technical design and um form , I think .
C: Mm yeah also the the look and feel uh of the the remote's also my task , yeah .
A: Or something like that .
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: Right .
B: What's the uh url or the website 'cause I didn't get C: Yeah I uh w was wondering that too .
C: Y you went to the company website .
A: Euro ?
D: It's Yeah yeah yeah just if you start up your Internet Explorer A: Well it it it's B: Yeah .
A: if you uh C: It's the the the start uh starting page uh B: Oh oh right
B: oh well I didn't uh use it .
D: Yeah .
A: Finish meeting now .
B: A: Oh alright . A: Well uh we're going to back uh back into our rooms so B: Yes .
D: Well that's great .
B: Next meeting is in A: In thirty minutes ,
D: Thirty minutes .
B: Thirty minutes .
A: but uh I think it will be you will be warned uh through your laptop uh to get over here .
B: Yeah alright
B: it's it's handy to know   A: I'll have to restore my uh my desktop uh
C: Very handy to know .
D: It's totally broken . B: A: because uh it's it's the half of the normal size . B: B: C: Right see you in half an hour then .
A: Oh right , oh .
B: Oh . Goodbye . C: W
A: Ma D: Oh B: S
A: W that was a nice meeting .
D: D: .
B: .
C: Right uh see you in thirty minutes then . A: Yeah , see you .