A: How it would play out , yeah .
D: Yeah .
A: Oh .
D: Whether whether that's considered to be sort of part of the corporate identity , I don't know . D: I mean , it's maybe not . I mean B: Um B: But I think more the the features of the actual control will be more important than maybe than the the actual aesthetics , but D: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
B: But either way , I think we've made it fairly close to what  D: Yeah . Okay , well I mean C: Yeah ,
C: I don't see how we could make it any more .
C: Um , apart from maybe doing the whole thing in the kinda light shade of blue , like the casing .
D: We cou
D: Mm-hmm .
C: C: But then what colour would you make the R_s ?
B: just the the company logo .
B: So maybe there's like a set design which we get printed off .
A: Well , but you've got the company logo on there ,
D: Yeah .
A: which would effectively be a stick-on badge .
B: Okay .
A: So you're in a sense , you're comparing the product without the company logo .
D: Yeah .
A: And then y but you've got the space for it to stick it on .
B: Yeah , yeah .
D: Hey , what what what's the company colour ?
D: Did you get told what the company colour is or B: I'm still not quite sure we've established that .
C: No ,
C: I just A: Don't think so .
C: We got the logo off the web browser .
A: But but i but in the sense that , as you saw with um the Windows logo badge , it doesn't really matter .
D: Oh right .
C: A: There's virtually n
A: The way that you frame , you know , the Windows badge on there , it really doesn't matter what colour it is ,
D: Hmm .
A: so long as our company's logo is framed w in the same way as that with a like a black outline .
D: D: Mm-hmm .
A: Fact , they've got black and white or black and silver .
A: So basically , even if you had a silver  the same colour of silver on your display , because you've got effectively a double edging on the uh on the logo , it means that it splits off what your logo is from the from the product .
D: Mm . A: And that's actually quite a sneaky way of doing it .
D: Okay .
D: Uh-huh .
D: 'Cause you've got sort of D: we've got point two to play with if you really wanted to .
A: You could put in another D: Another colour .
D: Or would that be t
A: Well , in this one , you've actually got three colours of buttons .
D: Yeah .
A: Well , we decided that the blue ones were the um the standard colour .
D: Okay .
A: So you were talking about uh um A: We're assuming that all the buttons on the second panel , the hidden away panel , would all be standard .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: Which m may or may not be the case .
D: Yeah .
D: Shall we save the point two for profitability then ? B: Um A: Well , yeah .
C: A: Bu but but uh was the was there not a button that you were thinking of on the um on the other opt you know , on the second page , as it were , that uh you were thinking of maybe having as a different colour ?
C: Um , I don't think they would really need to be .
C: I think if they were just all small round blue buttons , it'd be fine .
B: Yeah ,
B: maybe we've m C: Needs to be an enter button ,
C: but could just be the same as well .
B: Maybe for the the one they're gonna see all the time , we make it look good , and um , fit the kind of idea of what they want .
D: Hmm .
B: And then for the more functional buttons , we don't worry too much about that and just have that as like a
B: plus it's hidden away anyway ,
B: you're not gonna see it at the start .
D: Yeah .
D: I mean it's the sort of thing that , I mean , you wanna pick up the controller and just hit a button quickly to change the channel or volume .
A: Yeah ,
A: well D: So , if it's dead obvious , then that's fine .
D: But if you're opening the panel and you're looking and you're tuning , then you're paying a bit more attention .
D: So it may be sort of different colour buttons isn't so important .
A: Alright . Okay .
D: 'Cause you D: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
A: So we just add that to profitability in effect .
D: So D: Yeah ,
A:  D: I mean so we've dropped the cost , but C: Mm-hmm .
A: Right , so we're meant to finish up in five minutes .
D: Same sort of function ? The criteria ?
D: It's alright .
B: 'Kay .
D: Just made a load of money . C: C: Shouldn't we maybe lose a point on fashion ,
C: go to a three ?
C: 'Cause we've lost the overall spongy feel .
C: 'Cause it doesn't seem right that it just hasn't changed at all . A: D: Well , but I think we said that w Because you got rid of the rubber , we put an extra an extra sort of fruit um shape on one of the buttons .
B: A: C: Alright .
D:  le lemon sh
C: Did we decide what that was , which button it was ?
D: I think D: well , we could have lemon shaped ones with the volume ones or something . C: On the volume ones ?
C: Right . A: B: Uh , .
D: Or something like that . Yeah . B: That's good .
A: B: Definitely lemon shaped .
D: B: D: Did did you have to have a rubber case , though , for rubber buttons ?
D: Or was it the other way around ?
B: You had to have rubber buttons if you had the rubber case .
D: Right , okay .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: So I think we can we're okay .
A: So we're okay this way around .
D: Yeah .
D: So that D: so we've saved
A: Until the design team comes in and says , get off .
D: A: But you are the design team . B: Then we say it's fine ,
B: so it's all good .
D: Saved two Euros on that .
A: So what bit are we on to ?
C: Um , can I just check if that's a cherry or an apple ?
C: Did we decide against the apple because of Apple Mac ?
C: And did we make it a cherry officially ?
A: Yeah .
A: I th I th D: Mm-hmm .
A: Oh . Right , okay .
B: Just in case we need that point two for lawsuits and such like . C: A: D: A: Oh drats ,
A: I've botched that , haven't I .
C: So were we aiming for a certain target on that scale ?
D: Well , we're aiming for um one for all of them .
D: M but it really has to fit into the budget ,
C: Right .
D: so I guess we just have to adjust things to get it i in the D: Which is fair enough . B: And we seem to have least something in each criteria .
D: Yeah .
B: We haven't completely left anything out , so D: Yeah ,
D: I think
D: most B: As an overall product which has to be quite cheap , we've just about achieved everything .
D: Yeah .
D: Yep .
C: So do we have anything else to discuss ?
D: I don't know .
D: What's on the agenda ?
A: Right , okay um A: What's happened here ?
A: Right , okay um A: Mm .
A: Right , okay um ,  A: Right . So we got B: We've got the closing .
A: So we've done the the finance bit and the Excel project and the We've done the redesign .
A: So we're now on to project process .
A: Now satisfaction with , for example , room for creativity , leadership , teamwork , means , et cetera , whiteboard , digital pens , et cetera .
A: So , we're actually now uh , in a sense , on to the evaluation of the course rather than the evaluation of the project is m my understanding of it .
B: D: Uh-huh .
A: So what did you A: and remembering that nobody's just over the curtain . D: A: So , um D: Finish your meeting now . B: We should just go through this quickly and then C: Huh .
D: Yeah .
A: So A: I suppose the easiest way of doing it is to put some notes down ,
A: which I will do .
D: Okay .
A: So , uh I think I have to finish that page .
D: Oh . A: Right , okay , so A: Project evaluation .
A: So , um A: Creativity .
A: Did you feel you got a chance to express yourselves well enough ?
D: B: Um , yeah . Yeah .
C: Yeah .
A: Well um D: I thought some of the divisions though between sort of the individual meetings were a bit arbitrary .
A: Individual meetings . How do you mean ?
D: Yeah .
D: Well , we were finding out various things in in be in-between the meetings ,
A: In you on your own .
D: and they didn't the one meeting didn't always follow on for the other one , you know ,
D: sort of we had things thrown in at the second meeting where , you know , you'd looked at the remote controls and seen the curviness , but in the first one you'd also looked at some remote controls and looked at the buttons ,
A: Um D: and I don't understand why it would be in separate meetings that you'd do that .
D: You know , you'd sort of you'd probably present it at one or something like that .
A: Mm ,  A: The only thing you find is in a manufacturing process , you would normally , you go to a meeting , you decide , right , you do this , you do that , you do that .
D: Yeah .
A: Then you go away .
A: You find out information .
A: You then come back .
A: You then discuss it .
A: You then go and change things around ,
D: Uh-huh .
A: and then go back .
D: Yeah .
A: So B: Yeah , I suppose and then be going out and finding more information each time
B: and then diff things will be relevant .
A: Whereas , this time , you're really getting it from a database source ,
D: Yeah .
A: so it's not uh well uh  D: Yeah .
A: Anyway , so ,
A: what do you want to put down ?
C: D: A: I've put , seemed okay .
A: Creativity , seemed okay .
A: Um um flow of information on on any given subject given subject um sometimes disjointed . D: Yeah .
C: I think it maybe could have been a slightly more creative project .
C: I mean a remote control isn't the most um kind of fancy thing that you could imagine designing .
D: Yeah , the thing itself .
A: Um C: I can't think of a better example at the minute .
D: Yeah .
A: Have could have used a different example pel to increase create Creativity .
D: Yeah .
B: Is this go B: It kinda kis fits the purpose that it was something everyone knows about
B: and then something we can at least look at
B: and think how we can improve on .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: You have to do it within a set time frame is the other thing , so D: Yeah .
D: But think like it was a bit restrictive just to say that you have to design a television remote control , in a way .
D: I mean it depends what sort of business you're in , I guess .
D: I mean this one seems . From the website it looks it's quite innovative ,
D: but we're coming up with some bucket shop product aren't we
C: D: that's , you know , fifteen quid . B: one of those things .
B: Like uh , companies can have like a range of products and A: I th I uh d
B: I don't know how it works but I guess that something got sent out and have like a brief to kind of A: But the other thing is that uh they're I'm guessing that they're trying to use this um software to to demonstrate how you could uh do a project .
A: I mean , m my wife at the moment , for instance , is uh acting as a computer
D: Yeah .
A: um for um  A: you normally , you got a problem , so you go to your tutor
A: and find out information to see how to get it fixed .
D: Mm-hmm .
A: So what she's doing is she's having to spend a day at the computer terminal at one end so that any student that comes along can uh ask whatever question .
A: And then you A: or the idea is that the whichever uh person's at the other end can point them in the right direction ,
A: show them where to A: either give them directly give them help ,
A: or secondly , point them in the right direction ,
A: either at the library , or uh or or come back , or go and see Joe Bloggs , or whatever .
A: So uh , and that was a project I suspect similar to this ,
A: because they they were actually trying to debug the uh computer software to enable um to enable it to work .
A: And of course , you had the machine crashing
D: Hmm .
B: Yeah .
A: and various things going wrong . So B: Well , sh we look at the last slide ,
D: Mm-hmm .
B: see if it's got anything else .
B: I think there's one one more to go .
A: Alright ,
A: so we've got uh
D: Yeah .
D: I mean if you look at their products on their website here , Real Reaction , I mean it's all pretty high-tech and cutting edge .
A: New ideas found ,
D: And A: did we find any ,
A: no .
B: It was quite good with this um the white board , having that and the digital pens .
B: Like , that's something that made it a little easier .
A: Alright .
D: Yeah . Yeah .
A: Leadership ,
A: teamwork .
D: we did find a new idea ,
D: I mean sort of a kinetic remote control .
D: I've never seen one of them before .
D: batteries , I think . So B: voice recognition , especially not could A: Does D: Mm yeah .
A: You've got voice recognition computers ,
A: that's not remote controls .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: Well it's a different application of it .
A: Mm-hmm .
B: Yeah , so it's just like the same products , but just put together in a different way .
A: Okay ,
D: Mm .
A: so how do you reckon teamwork went ?
B: Um D: That went okay , yeah .
B: Yeah ,
B: I guess we all had separate ideas and then discussed them .
D: Mm-hmm , yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: A: To uh go uh reasonably well .
A: Okay .
D: I don't think sort of the budget um allowed us to do anything A: Bit bit arbitrary . D: Well , I mean I don't think it I just don't think it fitted in with the rest of their products .
D: I mean , they've got all these sort of , you know , high definition D_V_D_ and portable seven inch d um lightweight computer screens ,
A: Mm-hmm .
D: and uh I'm thinking , do you know , one cheap remote control doesn't really fit in .
A: So , we're m we're meant to comment on leadership and the means , E_ G_ whiteboard , digital pens , et cetera .
C: D: Surely they they should produ
C: Well leadership's a bit of a funny one , isn't it .
A: And and new i new ideas found was the the other thing .
D: Yeah .
C: But we can't really all fairly comment on leadership
C: because you are the Project Manager .
C: You were the leader .
A:  D: C: So our experience of leadership wasn't really as much as yours . D: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
C: A: Now , I'd much rather be in marketing C: D: A: but   A: I certainly didn't get this uh computer to work as well as I would have liked .
D: A: However , um A: Alright uh means , so whiteboard um so really , it's uh equipment . Oh .
D: Yeah .
D: It worked .
C: Yeah , very nice . D: Comput computers could be a bit difficult at times but  C: But I mean , I d I don't I'm not sure I see the value in these .
C: I mean , they record what you're writing ,
C: and then what do you do with it ?
C: Where do you get the recording ?
C: Do you plug the computer or something ?
D: I think there's a little there's a little um chi
B: So it's not just for us ,
B: it's for the experiment as a whole , so D: There's a little there's a little chip ,
D: I think you must plug it into something
B: Should we quickly look at the last slide ?
D: and it produces a B: Sh  C: Right .
C: I think you watch a video of it kind of .
D: I don't know .
D: Whether it just produces a big image of sort of everything you've written or something ,
D: and Page after page .
A: Right .
A: New ideas found , so one or two .
D: Yeah .
D: Kinetic powered remote control . Um ,
D: what was the other one ?
C: Voice um recognition thing .
D: Vo yeah .
A: um and uh voice
D: A: uh , was it voice activated um D: Voice recognition , yeah . S
A: recognition .
D: Almost .
D: To fill in these fill in these questionnaires
C: Pretty much . A: Right , so ,
D: Oh no .
A: uh are the costs within budget ,
A: yes .
A: Is the project evaluated ,
A: yes .
A: Uh , don't forget to complete final questionnaire and meeting summary .
A: Then celebration . D: C: B: . Is that everything ?
D: Hmm ?
D: I think that we've got two questionnaires
D: and a report on the last meeting .
A: Yeah .
A: Uh , so we don't re
A: So really A: I tried to save this the last time at twelve point three ,
A: and it didn't seem to have saved anywhere .
A: Mind you , the the figure last was was different ,
A: but it should be poss