B: D: So that then you need five buttons , and one integrated scroll-wheel push-button .
A: Yep .
C: Which  That's even D: But we can't drop three buttons .
A: Okay th that's D: But I see that's A: Yeah that's one Euro more expensive .
D: Yeah .
D: So   that's not a good idea .
C: A: That's not an option .
D: Because which buttons do we have now ?
D: Those five which I mentioned , and then menu , and then A: Menu , power .
D: Yeah .
D: F of the four things ?
A: Four arrows ?
D: Yeah ,
D: th power .
A: Power .
A: Uh D: Which more ?
C: Yeah , if you if you go to eight C: I don't know how to A: Yeah . Okay .
A: So four arrows ?
D: Yeah .
A: Uh power I believe ?
D: Power .
D: Th Yeah that's five .
A: Uh A: We have a Back and a Okay button .
D: Yeah , okay that's seven ,
A: And the Menu .
D: and one to activate the menu , yeah .
D: So okay that's eight .
D: Well we can't reduce that .
D: We we keep the display .
D: Oh , well okay .
A: Yeah , and even if we drop three buttons from here , we still have to make some adjustments around here . So D: Yeah .
A: C: Yeah ,
C: we need the chip for the for the L_C_ display .
D: A: The L_C_D_ ? Yeah .
B: Let's make the D: Yeah well we need the advanced B: Let's make the case plastic .
D: Instead of r
A: Then I rather make it wood .
A: Because then also it's good in the market with the forty five plus uh people .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
D: Yeah but but that's not our market .
C: True .
B: But A: No that maybe not . But maybe it's better than plastic anyway .
D: Ah no , hard plastic . C: Oh .
B: Plastic with a with a special colour .
B: A woo wood uh wood uh wood colour .
D: Yeah , plastic with special colour .
A: Yeah ? D: No but I I B: That's an option . A: Yeah okay uh D: Because we have to use the special colour anyway .
D: You forgot that .
B: Yeah .
A: Yep . Yeah , yeah .
D: So let's go for the plastic .
B: So we do one one s
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah , okay . Plastic .
D: And since it's not kinetic , it doesn't have to flip around that much ?
A: Uh that's easy because plastic is free . C: Hmm .
B: Hmm .
A: D: We still have problem of two Euros .
A: Yeah , okay .
A: Uh if we dropped uh D: B: No the buttons , those are really needed .
A: Yeah ?
D: Yeah we can't drop them .
B: Yeah th th it's it's uh B: An advanced chip-on-print . C: Yeah uh D: Do we really need that advanced chip for an L_C_D_ display ?
A: You still need that .
C: You uh uh C: Yeah .
C: So the other option would be to go for the the sample speaker , and Which can use a regular chip , wh which is six Euros in total .
A: S
C: That doesn't matter .
D: Oh . I rather keep I rather keep the display .
A: No , I keep the re
A: Yeah . Yeah . Because we already designed for it . So C: Well yeah .
D: So the only option is an hand dynamo .
C: Exactly .
B: Oh that A: Yeah and something else .
C: Yeah but the D: Oh no tha Oh that's one Euro , right .
C: uh can't we f uh fit all the buttons in an intreg integrated scroll push-button
C: ? 'Cause that will save us one and a half Euro already .
C: And then if w
D: And then integrated s Yeah but that would make it not so easy to use .
A: No y you would rec
D: I mean it's not that important , easy to use , but A: Then you have C: Th then we have to scroll through a lot of menus to be able to get where you want , huh ?
A: Then you still need two additional buttons I believe .
C: And uh D: Yeah .
A: For the volume .
C: Yeah d at l Yeah . At least one for power .
A: You can use those Yeah .
B: But the A: Oh yeah and power .
A: That's three buttons and this would cost C: Oh .
C: Yeah it's just as expensive as what we have now .
B: But the integrated uh button ? How many func functions can it uh have ?
A: Yeah .
A: Three . Up , down , Okay .
C: Yeah endlessly .
C: I mean it can be a power button as soon as it powered on .
B: Okay .
C: You can go into you in you main menu ,
D: You you press it for like three seconds .
C: you can choose uh flip channel , uh you can choose sound options , any options .
D: Then then then you should do everything in the menu . On the screen .
C: Yeah .
C: Maybe we should .
A: Yeah , okay . It would save enough C: 'Cause we don't have money and w we want the screen .
A: Yeah you can choose this , drop these , then we have a half Euro left .
D: Yeah . A: So we can maybe still use power button .
D: Yeah , but we'd  Alright .
A: Yeah .
C: I guess we have to .
D: It s it saves us four Euros and it costs us two and a half .
D: So let's see ,
D: we we drop the price by one and a half .
C: We'll we'll be on A: Yeah . You see ?
D: But we still have thirteen left .
A: Oh still Yeah ?
A: Oh then I miscalculated . Oh yeah .
D: Thirteen . So still half . A: Shit .
D: There goes the special co A: Drop the special colour . B: Oh no .
D: Well  That would make it less appealing . So that's no option .
A: 'Kay .
A: What else ?
A: Uncurved ?
B: No no , it has to be um curved .
D: We sure about the advanced chip we need for the display ?
A: Yeah .
C: Yeah it says right here .
A: They made it very easy for us . B: Okay .
D: Well yeah .  yeah .
D: We made it hard for ourselves with the display , but it's a cool feature .
A: Ah , I don't think I can s uh persuade the management to say , this is better for the market so you sell more than  D: B: Okay .
B: Wh what we could do is um C: B: drop the the special colour , and uh do the special colour for the buttons .
C: Yeah .
A: Buttons .
A: That's A: Oh yeah since we only have one button .
C: B: Yeah . A: D: Yeah but I mean what is meant by special colour ?
A: I just m I don't I think B: Just something else than than black or white I think .
A: Uh yeah it's I think it's grey , regular .
D: S yeah . Alright .
A: Grey and rubber .
C: But we definitely want the thing to be a special colour though .
A: Of plastic .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: So I rather have an hand dynamo than than drop the colour .
C: Damn .
A: B: C: Yeah
C: and then  C: Yeah yeah yeah yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: You can still play with it then I guess .
D: I don't know .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah , but a hand dynamo costs a lot of energy to keep the screen working . So I guess that isn't an option .
B: The display  C: Well , you only have to power it up when you wanna use it .
D: Yeah .
B: The D: Yeah .
B: But if you have to power the for ten minutes , then the C: I don't know .
D: Yeah .
A: No I don't think the current status of uh chips are pretty uh energy conserving , no .
C: .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah true .
C: Yeah .
D: Let's let's go for the hand dynamo then .
A: Yeah hand dynamo ?
A: Do you want an extra button ?
D: Or or do we A: D: Or do we do uncurved and flat ? Instead of A: B: No no it has to be curved .
D: Yeah it has to be curved and has to have that colour .
C: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
B: Just put a special special colour of the buttons , or something .
C: Yeah .
D: And a screen .
C: Yeah . That's the most import
A: Yep ?
A: Instead of an additional power button ?
B: Yeah or spe special form ?
D: Yeah .
D: S what what is special f
D: Oh yeah , special form .
A: Yeah ?
D: Maybe that's nicer .
A: It's for scroll B: Yeah .
D: But we don't have any buttons .
A: Without D: So do C: We only have D: d Uh make it a special colour then .
B: Yeah . But it's it's for the integrated button , I think also . Or D: Yeah
C: Yeah but D: ma make it a special colour then .
A: Yeah but it's just a scroll-wheel which you can push down . So B: Yeah . Okay . Yeah .
D: Okay . Make it a special colour and then it look fancy .
A: Yeah ?
B: Yep .
A: So D: So A: Woah we're within budget .
D: Yeah .
A: It's a miracle . B: Oh just D: Let's let's save it .
B: oh ma make it two special colours , but we only have one button .
D: Yeah .
B: Okay .
D: Let's do it like this ,
D: I mean , because it does not lose our identity of the product as we A: Yeah ?
A: Okay .
A: Um , well A: . 'Kay , this was old .
C: Well we come back to the drawing board then , huh ? D: Yeah all your designs are uh pretty much B: Yeah . Okay .
A: Yeah back to work
A: Uh A: .
C: C: It's silly 'cause we we should have had this meeting before we start drawing .
A: Did I save it ?
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah but that but that's the fun part of it . A: I I wanted to go , but I wasn't allowed . So  C: Oh yeah ?
C: okay .
D: Alright .
A: Uh I just forgot to save this .
A: Just a minute .
A:  A: .
D: Yeah what's the next uh phase ?
A: Yeah , this the last phase of course , so D: Uh the agenda .
D: By your humble P_M_ .
A: Hmm .
D: Oh f Frustrated . Alright . A: Oh .
D: Yeah .
A: Okay . Um  A: Well we first should have had a uh prototype presentation .
A: But well as you saw that hadn't made no sense , because we had to drop it .
C: C: Drop everything . Yeah .
D: Drop , yeah .
A: Uh  C: We went straight into finance ? B: D: A: Yeah .
A: Yeah it was more important , so I just
D: Yeah . Yeah .
C: For C: Yeah .
A: pushed up the agenda .
C: Yeah .
A: Uh ,
A: evaluation criteria .
A: You have t produced something about that ?
D: Yeah that that's Yeah . I uh I sure did .
D: And it combines with product evaluation .
D: Uh so A: Uh you put it in the .
D: We all have to keep in mind what has changed now .
D: So what we have left on the Because evaluation is based on the initial uh user requirements .
A: Yeah .
D: Alright .
D: Let's make it big . A: F_ five .
D: Um D: Well we evaluate uh the design with a seven point scale , as following .
D: Well the remote controls according criteria blah blah blah .
D: True or false , and then on a scale of seven points ,
D: a scale , as we all know it .
C: Mm-hmm .
B: A: D: Um D: Well the criteria are based on the user requirements , uh the trends from the marketing research , and the marketing strategy of the company itself .
D: Um well they are in a Word document ,
D: which I will open now .
A: Alt up
D: Yeah .
D: I don't know it's open yet .
D: No .
D: And we all have to uh agree on a certain level .
D: What's this ?
A: Freaky . D: Oh . I don't know .
D: Um D: Well the first point is the remote control matches the operating behaviour of the young user .
D: So that means the operating behaviour was using quite a lot of functions .
D: How do you think about that ?
C: I think it does .
C: Because the operating behaviour of the young user was also defined in colour and shape and the use of L_C_D_ ,
C: right ?
A: Yeah .
A: Uh , of course we dropped a little bit of those uh D: Yeah
D: the us u
D: It it D: it's it's mainly con mainly concentrating on a lot of functions , in this question .
C: Yeah .
A: Mm-hmm .
D: So do you think C: Well , we have extended menus , on the on the L_C_D_ screen . So D: Yeah .
D: You can you can ma
D: Yeah , you can make a lot of extended menus . That's true .
B: Yep .
D: I mean the the possibilities are almost unlimited , to to build in menus in the screen .
C: I
C: No .
D: So on a scale from one to seven , what do you think ?
B: Two or three .
D: Huh ?
B: Two or three .
D: Two or three ? Something like that ?
D: Well we have to choose one .
A: Two .
C: Yeah .
D: So uh what do you say ?
A: Uh y we should fill this in now .
D: I agree on two .
D: Yeah .
A: Yeah okay .
D: I uh I say two , personally . But A: Uh B: Yeah .
A: Yeah in the new design I s would say it's three . But now , in original design I say two .
C: Yeah alright .
D: Yeah well we have to evaluate I guess what we have now .
A: Okay then I say three .
D: Yeah ? You say three ,
C: Yeah yeah .
D: and you you said al also three ?
D: Three ?
B: Yeah .
D: Okay well I say still two , but it has to be three then .
A: Hey , you're marketing , eh . B: D: Yeah I know .
D: So it's made bold . But it's nah , it's not very clear on the sc
A: Hmm . M maybe underline .
B: Or give it a colour .
D: Maybe other colour , yeah .
D: That's better .
A: Red . D: Uh D: Yeah . Alright .
D: Oh , it doesn't have to be bold anymore .
A: Oh yeah very true .
B: D: Alright .
D: Yeah .
B: Yeah true one . D: Um well the remote control has  Wha A: He types everything . C: Definitely one . It has to be .
B: Yeah .
D: D: The remote control has irrelevant or less used functions .
D: For example audio settings and screen settings .
B: It hides uh basic functions . A: Everything . You don't use anything else . D: Yeah . Well , yeah . So it it's a very true point . I mean it hides all those function .
C: You're not gonna find them .
A: Yeah . Yeah okay . Yeah .
B: Yeah true .
D: But , I mean uh they're hidden in the screen .
D: If you don't want to use them , you don't s you s just scroll over them .
D: And you place them A: Mm-hmm .
D: F I don't know where .
D: So that's very true , I guess , for our case .
D: Uh the second point .
C: Yeah the next Not so much so .
D: It shows the relevant and most used functions .
A: Nope .
D: Power button .
D: Do we ha still have a power button ?
A: Uh check with the Excel sheet .
D: Well yeah the button's integrated , huh ?
C: Yeah .
B: I think we are C: Yeah it's uh it's integrated .
D: Yeah we dropped it .
D: You j you just push it in for B: It's in B: Oh yeah it was integrateds . Yeah .
A: Yeah integrate it .
D: Yeah just just push it in for th for three seconds or something , and then C: E exactly just like a m mobile .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: I don't know . A: Just go scrolling and it will activate . D: Yeah .
B: D: Um it shows the relevant and most used functions .
C: C: .
D: Yeah uh on the other D: uh on one side I would say yes , and the other side I would say no .
D: So it's I don't know .
A: It shows the most used functions and they are relevant , but B: Can you uh change channels directly with with just one button ?
D: Yeah .
B: No , you have to scroll through the menu , before
D: With the scroll butt
D: Yeah and then say channel .
B: Yeah . So it's it's not D: And then C: Well uh we should b build it so that if you don't kind of push into the menu or something , if C: When it's on , yeah , it's turned on ,
D: Hmm ?
A: You say you double click on the C: It automatically has the the programme and the volume function ,
D: Yeah .
C: but as soon as you click it you go into the menu or some  D: Yeah .
C: Of you C: Or you double click it .
D: But but how do you change from volume to channel ?
C: No because it has four arrows ,
A: C: right ?
A: No , not anymore .
B: No . D: No . A: Because he's now have a scroll-wheel that you can push in .
C: Oh yeah .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah I was thinking still about our uh integrated joystick .
A: Like on the the mouse .
D: No we have n we have no buttons left . So C: Say .
D: the joystick was not an option .
C: Yeah that is a bummer .
D: So  so you hav A: Yeah . D: So you you have to double-click ,
D: I mean , for , I mean , uh volume ,
A: To get into menu . Yeah .
D: and three double click for the menu , or something .
B: Oh no .
A: Or hold it ten seconds . C: We'll make it a Morse code .
D: Yeah .
D: Yeah . Yeah . Alright .
B: D: But but ease of use was not very important , may I remind you .
A: No no no . Uh it should be trendy . D: So that's B: