PhD F: I have a uh , um , question . Well , Morgan , you were mentioning that Mari may not use the k equipment from IBM if they found something else , cuz there 's a Professor D: They 're they 're yeah , they 're d they 're uh assessing whether they should do that or y do something else , hopefully over the next few weeks .
PhD F: Cuz I mean , one remote possibility is that if we st if we inherited that equipment , if she weren't using it , could we set up a room in the linguistics department ? And and I mean , there there may be a lot more or or in psych , or in comp wherever , in another building where we could um , record people there . I think we 'd have a better chance
Grad B: I think we 'd need a real motivated partner to do that . We 'd need to find someone on campus who was interested in this .
PhD F: Right , but Right . But if there were such a I mean it 's a remote possibility , then um , you know , one of us could you know , go up there and record the meeting or something rather than bring all of them down here .
Grad B: Yep .
PhD F: So it 's just a just a thought if they end up not using the the hardware .
Professor D: Well , the other thing Yeah , I mean the other thing that I was hoping to do in the first place was to turn it into some kind of portable thing so you could wheel it around .
Grad B: Right .
Professor D: Uh . But . Um , and Grad B: Well , I know that space is really scarce on at least in CS . You know , to to actually find a room that we could use regularly might actually be very difficult .
Professor D: Uh Yeah .
PhD F: But you may not need a separate room , you know ,
Grad B: That 's true .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD F: the idea is , if they have a meeting room and they can guarantee that the equipment will be safe and so forth , and if one of us is up there once a week to record the meeting or something Grad B: True . Mm - hmm . Yep .
Professor D: Well , maybe John would let us put it into the phonology lab or something .
PhD F: Huh .
Grad B: Yep .
Professor D: You know .
PhD F: I I think it 's not out of the question .
Grad B: Yeah , I think it would be interesting because then we could regularly get another meeting .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD F: Um . So .
Grad B: another type of meeting .
PhD C: Yeah .
PhD F: Right .
PhD C: But I I I think you need , uh , another portable thing a another portable equipment to to do , eh , more e easier the recording process , eh , out from ICSI .
PhD F: Right .
Grad B: Hmm .
Professor D: Yeah .
Grad B: Right .
PhD C: Eh and probably . I don't know .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD C: Eh , if you you want to to record , eh , a seminar or a class , eh , in the university , you you need  It - it would be eh eh very difficult to to put , eh , a lot of , eh , head phones eh in different people when you have to to record only with , eh , this kind of , eh , d device .
Professor D: Yeah .
Grad B: Yeah , but I think if we if we wanna just record with the tabletop microphones , that 's easy .
PhD C: Oh - yeah .
Grad B: Right ? That 's very easy ,
PhD C: Ye - Yeah , yeah .
Grad B: but that 's not the corpus that we 're collecting .
PhD C: Yeah .
Professor D: Actually , that 's a int that raises an interesting point that came up in our discussion that 's maybe worth repeating . We realized that , um , when we were talking about this that , OK , there 's these different things that we want to do with it . So , um , it 's true that we wanna be selective in some ways , uh , the way that you were speaking about with , uh , not having an interlingua and uh , these other issues . But on the other hand , it 's not necessarily true that we need all of the corpus to satisfy all of it . So , a a as per the example that we wanna have a fair amount that 's done with a small n recorded with a small , uh , typ number of types of meetings But we can also have another part that 's , uh , just one or two meetings of each of a of a range of them and that 's OK too . Uh , i We realized in discussion that the other thing is , what about this business of distant and close microphones ? I mean , we really wanna have a substantial amount recorded this way , that 's why we did it . But what about For th for these issues of summarization , a lot of these higher level things you don't really need the distant microphone .
PhD F: Right , I mean , I c I think there 's Grad B: And you don't really need the close microphone , you mean .
Professor D: You actually don't .
PhD C: Yeah .
PhD F: Yea - yeah yeah , you actually don't really even need any fancy microphone .
Postdoc E: Which one did you mean ?
Professor D: You d You don't ne it doesn't you just need some microphone , somewhere .
Grad B: Ye - Yeah . Yep .
PhD F: You can use found data .
Grad B: Tape recorder .
PhD C: Yeah .
Professor D: Yeah .
Postdoc E: Oh .
PhD C: Yeah .
PhD F: You you can .
Professor D: You need some microphone ,
PhD F: You can
Grad B: Mm - hmm .
Professor D: but I mean PhD F: use Um , but I think that any data that we spend a lot of effort {nonvocalsound} to collect ,
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD F: you know , each person who 's interested in I mean , we have a cou we have a bunch of different , um , slants and perspectives on what it 's useful for , um , they need to be taking charge of making sure they 're getting enough of the kind of data that they want .
Professor D: Right .
PhD F: And So in my case , um , I think there w there is enough data for some kinds of projects and not enough for others .
Grad B: Not enough for others , right .
PhD F: And so {nonvocalsound} I 'm looking and thinking , " Well I 'd be glad to walk over and record people and so {nonvocalsound} forth if it 's to help th in my interest . "
Grad B: Mm - hmm .
PhD F: And other people need to do that for themselves , uh , h or at least discuss it so that we can find some optimal Professor D: Right . So that PhD C: Yeah .
Professor D: But I think that I 'm raising that cuz I think it 's relevant exactly for this idea up there that if you think about , " Well , gee , we have this really complicated setup to do , " well maybe you don't .
Grad B: Yeah . For some of it .
Professor D: Maybe if if If really all you want is to have a a a recording that 's good enough to get a  uh , a transcription from later , you just need to grab a tape recorder and go up and make a recording .
PhD F: Right .
Grad B: Yep .
Professor D: I mean , we we could have a fairly We could just get a DAT machine and PhD F: Well , I agree with {nonvocalsound} Jane , though , on the other hand that PhD C: Yeah .
PhD F: So that might be true , you may say for instance , summarization , or something that sounds very language oriented . You may say well , " Oh yeah , you just do that from transcripts of a radio show . " I mean , you don't even need the speech signal .
Professor D: Right .
PhD F: But what you what I was thinking is long term what would be neat is to be able to pick up on um Suppose you just had a distant microphone there and you really wanted to be able to determine this . There 's lots of cues you 're not gonna have .
Grad B: Right .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD F: So I do think that long term you should always try to satisfy the greatest number of of interests and have this parallel information , which is really what makes this corpus powerful .
PhD C: Yeah .
Grad B: Special ? Yep .
Professor D: I I I I I agree .
PhD F: Otherwise , you know , lots of other sites can propose individual studies , so Professor D: Uh but I I think that the uh i We can't really underestimate the difficulty shouldn't really u underestimate the difficulty of getting a setup like this up .
Grad B: Yep .
Professor D: And so , uh it took quite a while to get that together and to say , " Oh , we 'll just do it up there , " PhD F: OK .
Professor D: If you 're talking about something simple , where you throw away a lot of these dimensions , then you can do that right away . Talking about something that has all of these different facets that we have here , it won't happen quickly , it won't be easy , and there 's all sorts of issues about th you know keeping the equipment safe , or else hauling it around , and all sorts of o
PhD F: So then maybe we should {nonvocalsound} try to bring people here .
Grad B: Here .
Professor D: I think the first priority should be to pry {comment} to get try to get people to come here .
PhD F: I mean , that 's that 's OK , so
Professor D: We 're set up for it .
Postdoc E: Mm - hmm .
Professor D: The room is is really , uh , underused .
PhD F: OK .
Professor D: Uh PhD F: Right .
Postdoc E: I thought the free lunch idea was a great idea .
Grad B: Yeah , I thought so too .
PhD C: Yeah .
Professor D: Free lunch is good .
PhD F: Yeah , I And I think we can get people to come here , that But the issue is you definitely wanna make sure that the kind of group you 're getting is the right group so that you don't waste a lot of your time {nonvocalsound} and the overhead in bringing people down .
Postdoc E: Mm - hmm .
PhD A: No crunchy food .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD F: So {comment} Well , it would be lunch afterwards .
Grad B: Well , I was thinking , lunch after .
Postdoc E: Yeah .
PhD F: Right . And they 'd have to do their digits or they don't get dessert .
Grad B: Yep .
Professor D: Yeah , they have to do their digits or they don't {comment} get they don't {comment} get their food .
PhD F: Yeah .
Grad B: Um , I had a I spoke with some people up at Haas Business School who volunteered .
Professor D: Yeah
Grad B: Should I pursue that ?
PhD F: Oh , definitely , yeah .
Grad B: Yeah . So . They they originally They 've decided not to do go into speech .
Professor D: Yeah .
Grad B: So I 'm not sure whether they 'll still be so willing to volunteer , but I 'll send an email and ask .
Professor D: Tell them about the free lunch .
Grad B: I 'll tell them about the free lunch .
PhD F: Yeah .
Grad B: And they 'll say there 's no such thing .
PhD F: Yeah .
Grad B: So .
PhD F: I 'd love to get people that are not linguists or engineers , cuz these are both weird Grad B: Right .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD C: Yeah .
Professor D: The the  The oth the other h
PhD F: well , I know , I shouldn't say that .
Grad B: That 's alright . No , the they they 're very weird .
PhD F: We need a wider sampling .
PhD A: " Beep . "
PhD C: Yeah .
Professor D: Uh , " beep "
Grad B: The problem with engineers is " beep . "
Professor D: Uh , the the They make funny sounds . The o the o the other The other thing is , uh , that we we talked about is give to them uh , burn an extra CD - ROM .
Grad B: Yep . Let them have their meeting .
Professor D: and give them So if they want a {nonvocalsound} basically and audio record of their PhD F: Well , I thought that was I thought he meant , " Give them a music CD , " like they g Then he said a CD of the of their speech
Professor D: Oh .
PhD F: and I guess it depends of what kind of audience you 're talking to , but  You know , I personally {nonvocalsound} would not want a {nonvocalsound} CD {comment} of my meeting ,
Grad B: Mmm . Of the meeting ?
PhD F: but maybe yeah , maybe you 're
Professor D: If you 're having some planning meeting of some sort and uh you 'd like PhD F: right . {comment} Right . Right .
PhD A: Oh , that 's a good idea .
Grad B: It 'd be fun . I think it would just be fun , you know , if nothing else , you know .
PhD C: Yeah .
Professor D: Yeah .
PhD F: Right .
Grad B: It 's a novelty item .
Professor D: But it als It it it also I think builds up towards the goal .
PhD F: Right .
Professor D: We 're saying , " Look , you know , you 're gonna get this . Is - is isn't that neat . Then you 're gonna go home with it . It 's actually p It 's probably gonna be pretty useless to you ,
Grad B: Yep .
Professor D: but you 'll ge appreciate , you know , where it 's useful and where it 's useless ,
PhD F: Right .
Professor D: and then , we 're gonna move this technology , so it 'll become useful . "
PhD C: Yeah .
Professor D: So .
PhD F: No , I think that 's a great idea , actually .
PhD A: What if you could tell them that you 'll give them the the transcripts when they come back ?
Postdoc E: Alth
PhD F: But we might need a little more to incentivize them , {comment} that 's all .
Grad B: Oh , yeah . I mean , anyone can have the transcripts . So . I thought we could point that out .
Professor D: Oh yeah .
Postdoc E: Yeah .
PhD F: Well , that 's interesting .
Postdoc E: I hav I have to uh raise a little eensy - weensy concern about doing th giving them the CD immediately , because of these issues of , you know , this kind of stuff , {comment} where maybe  You know ?
Professor D: Good point . That 's a very good point .
Postdoc E: So .
Professor D: So we can so we can Postdoc E: We could burn it after it 's been cleared with the transcript stage .
Professor D: r Right .
Postdoc E: And then they they get a CD , but just not the same day .
PhD F: Oh , right .
Grad B: Yeah , that 's right .
PhD F: If It should be the same CD - ROM that we distribute publically ,
Grad B: That 's a good point . Right , it can't be the internal one .
PhD F: right ?
Professor D: Although it 's PhD F: Otherwise they 're not allowed to play it for anyone .
Postdoc E: There we go .
Grad B: That 's right .
Postdoc E: Oh , I like that . Well put . Well put . So , after the transcript screening phase .
Grad B: Yeah , that 's true .
Postdoc E: Things have been weeded out .
PhD F: Otherwise we 'd need two lawyer stages .
Postdoc E: Yeah , that 's right , say {comment} " Yeah , well , I got this CD , and , Your Honor , I "
Grad B: Yeah .
PhD F: That 's a good point .
Professor D: Yeah so that 's so let 's start with Haas , and Yeah .
PhD F: Sorry to have to {nonvocalsound} Sorry I have to leave .
Professor D: Oh , that 's fine .
PhD F: I will be here full - time next week .
Grad B: OK , see you .
Professor D: OK .
Grad B: No . Bye .
Professor D: That 's alright .
PhD A: See you .
Professor D: OK .
PhD C: See you .