B: As soon as you thought to move the the remote control you have the light .
C: Yeah ,
C: but you need another sensor for that , right ?
B: Yeah . Again .
C: Yeah C: no it's too expensive .
C: B: I don't think that this is really expensive ,
B: but at the end this is plenty of unexpen eh very cheap devices but uh the bill starts to be C: Okay .
C: Mm .
C: Extra .
C: Yeah , okay .
C: Mm .
C: Yeah , but I expected also the wheel would be cheap but you tell me that it is very expensive so ,
B: First of all I was thinking to have a a continuous light
C: yeah .
B: and you w when t you you you you press the on button you have the light on your remote control , when you want to turn off your device C: Mm .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: But it can be uh battery consuming , no ?
A: To have the light always on ?
B: Yeah , a little bit .
B: A little bit .
C: Mm .
A: Well we will discuss that after maybe
B: Yeah .
C: Okay
A: the other presentations .
C: . So uh my one , it uh should be in the shared folder .
A: Yeah .
C: So .
C: It was last time I saw it .
A: And it is .
C: Okay .
C: So ,
A: Okay .
C: just move to the next slide .
C: So basically want very simple , right ?
C: That's the major idea , as simple as possible .
A: Yeah . Yeah .
C: So I just look at some current designs uh on the web , of usually more complicated remote controls .
C: And let's look at two of them because uh th even though they have many buttons they look quite simple .
C: And in our case we just uh reject the buttons what we don't need and it become even simpler .
A: Yeah .
C: Um . So .
A: And also does it uh fit well in hand ?
A: Because it was uh th your wrist problem with the usage .
C: Yeah .
C: Well this these uh these remotes are quite big ,
C: so go to the next page ,
C: so .
C: We have all these buttons as you can see , but most of them , we just need the ones in the middle .
A: Yeah .
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: So , from the bottom or whatever is there , uh the uh the numbers and then the top , uh until the ten also , this middle part ,
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
C: and on the left one is exactly the same .
C: So it's basically more or less how we would like it , with a big volume control , big channel control , and mute and power ,
C: yeah ?
A: Yeah .
C: These are the basic thing .
A: So it's only the central part .
C: So basically , w software we will build will look more or less the same as these two .
A: Yeah .
A: With a maybe a more ergonomic design on on the bottom part .
C: Yeah ,
C: if you have , for example  C: I think that the volume and the buttons that are there on the top are not very easy to reach with your thumb .
C: It could be on the right side , for example .
A: Yeah .
A: Okay .
C: Yeah .
C: Because we don't have these input buttons and this other stuff that they have .
C: And I think that the plastic cover is not very good uh idea because
A: Okay .
C: you open it , it can break , you ca you can do various things .
C: Uh you just need to put the channel numbers somewhere a bit out of the way .
A: Okay . S
A: Okay .
C: So that they're separate a bit ,
A: Will be down or C: yeah .
A: Okay .
C: Uh and it's easy to press the other the big buttons , but uh , it's not that difficult to press the the channel buttons either .
C: Mm .
C: Yeah , I think that if you put the cover it will be even more difficult for the user .
A: Okay .
C: Alright , you won't yeah .
C: Usually what I have noticed that people put the plastic cover on things that you normally don't mess with , like buttons for t uh tuning the channels and stuff like that .
A: Okay .
C: Yeah .
C: That you want to protect a bit .
C: And I think it's uh it's reasonable .
A: Okay .
C: So , I don't think C: Yeah , this is just the the wheel .
C: We could use the A: Mm .
C: some wheels can be pushed down , could use the push down of the wheel for the record if we want .
B: Mm-hmm .
C: Uh so we could just basically use one just wheel
C: and uh user could use just the wheel to do everything with the channels in that case .
A: Yeah .
A: Maybe the wheel will be a good advantage over our competitors .
B: Mm-hmm .
A: Because otherwise it's pretty standard apart the fact that it's very simple .
A: So maybe it's worse to uh to have more expense on that's that aspect .
B: To s
B: Mm-hmm .
C: Yeah ,
C: I guess the market researcher will tell us all about that .
A: Okay .
A: So we can move to the A: Is there any question ?
A: For designer of user interface ?
A: or we can move to the next part , maybe , and discuss afterwards ?
A: Okay .
D: Okay , I can go ?
D: Can I ?
A: Yeah .
D: So now the recent investigation we we have done fo of the remote control um .
D: So , the most important aspect for remote controls is to be fancy look and feel and not current functional look and feel .
D: And um the second aspect is uh that the remote control should be uh technological innovative .
D: And the third most important aspect is to to is that the co remote control should be easy to use .
A: Okay .
D: So , are things we are we have uh speak about before .
C: Mm-hmm .
A: Yeah .
D: Yeah .
D: And um so you you can go A: Yeah .
D: after .
D: And there is a fashion watchers in Paris and Milan that have detected the following trends ,
D: uh fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes , shoes , and furnitures .
D: So , maybe if our remote control have to be a fruit form or vegetable form D: something like that , or A: Okay .
B: I support an apple .
D: And the mm the material is expected to be spongy .
A: D: Uh I don't know which material can be spongy ,
A: Yeah .
D: and if you A: This is good also for C: Well , wou wou
C: I think we can certainly just put the electronics in a spongy thing ,
C: it it would work , right ?
B: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
D: Mm-hmm .
B: Yeah .
C: Yeah .
A: I think it is good also f to have a spongy material , yeah .
C: You can throw it to the television .
A: Yeah , because it's robust .
D: Okay B: Yeah . Me too .
D: It's robust , yeah .
C: Hey
C: that's a cool one .
C: We could say that if you throw it , you have a sensor , and you throw it and hits the television and turns it off .
A: D: C: When it d uh takes a shock .
D: Not good .
A: Yeah
A: uh sorry ?
B: Ah it's okay .
B: I know that they do that for alarm clock also .
D: An and and uh this uh you can
C: Yeah .
D: yeah you can say that .
D: You ca uh you can go uh before
A: No .
A: Yeah .
A: Before ?
D: , before , yes
D: . And you know here the more iz important aspect is the fancy look and feel , after is uh technological innovative , and after the easy to use .
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
A: Yeah .
A: I think it's innovative to use the mm the wheel because I think no one else has .
B: Yeah .
D: Yeah that's why D: Yeah
A: Has it ?
D: that's why I think we have to keep that if it's possible .
A: Yeah .
A: I think it's it makes it both easy and both innos innovative .
B: Mm-hmm .
D: Innovative . Mm .
A: So I think it's a good aspect and it should be kept .
C: How do we make it look cool is the question .
A: Cool , fancy ?
C: Yeah .
A: We have to make it l look like a fruit or vegetable . D: Yeah .
C: A: Maybe uh um a colour that remember some fruit uh , things like that .
B: What about um D: Mm .
D: Oh , colour , yeah .
C: Well the obvious thing is a banana , I guess .
D: Oh i i A: Maybe yeah .
B: D: I thought about a a pear , for example .
D: You know the pear , is like that and it's it's easy to to have in in hand
A: Yeah ,
A: and it's ergonomic as well .
D: and uh D: Yeah .
A: A pear .
C: The banana is also ergonomic .
D: A: Yeah . Maybe pear yeah or something like that .
D: Or a fruit like that .
D: I dunno .
A: Yeah .
A: We can discuss that uh .
A: D D Is is there anything you want to add ?
C: Is there any fruit that is spongy ?
D:  A: I don't think so .
A: I think we we can have like yeah a pear is good , fit well , or banana as you told .
C: Yeah .
D: B: And for maybe look and feel , what about a a piece of ice ,
A: Something like that .
B: with blue L_E_D_ inside ?
A: But that's not in the trend . .
C: You can make it um D: B: Yeah .
A: The trend is spongy , and vegetable fruits .
B: Yeah .
D: B: C: It's not hard , the metal .
D: B: Yeah . A: I think p spongy is good because it it will be robust as well .
C: Plastic . B: Yep .
A: So ,
A: I think we can keep the wheel
A: because it's uh easy , it's innovative , even if the cost is a bit higher ,
B: Yeah .
A: and we also have to find a , so , a fruit like pear or banana
A: wit uh any others idea you have .
A: What kind of fr fruit would you like to to control your T_V_ with ? D: C: Mm .
A: Odi
B: Banana I think ,
B: it's a nice idea .