I received the wrong shoes, instead of the A8366 I received the A8822 crushed velvet creepers. I actually had planned to get this model afterwards so I won't be returning them, but it would have been nice to get the ones I wanted in the first place. I sized up and got a 12 in women's because I have a wide foot and they fit pretty big I just wear thicker socks with them so i recommend if you buy them get them in your size.