Too small. I usually wear an 8, sometimes an 8.5 depending on the shoe. I ordered these in an 8.5M because I would be wearing them with socks. They fit like a tight 8 - no way could I use them as a walking shoe. I was also disappointed in the appearance and the tread. I didn't want something that looked like a Monster Truck on my feet. These looked good in the photo, but in real life they look to me like an old bowling shoe. The tread is clearly shown on the site, so I should have known better but I was focused on the fact that they are a &#34;walking shoe&#34; and didn't pay enough attention. The tread is flat like a pair of Keds; no good for the uneven surfaces that I walk. Bottom line: I returned them. Note: had to return them to Shoes.com and pay return postage of almost $11 USPS!