The boots looked exactly like what I wanted. The return problem was that I read many of the post from other buyers and they were commenting that the boots were smaller than what their normal size was, so I went large. Well short story is that I should have just stuck with my normal size 8, except the width (5EE) was not as wide as other 5EEs I have seen. I normally take a 3EE but the little extra width in the 5EE was just right.And that worked out OK because I needed that extra width.