Don't look as good as the pictures.  Complete lack of attention to detail with the production of the shoe.  Some holes are punched through the leather, some are not.  Some holes show a black alignment mark through the center of the hole.  The finish comes off at the slightest touch.  While these shoes look okay from 10 ft, they are nothing but disappointing up close.  All in all, these are the lowest quality Johnston & Murphy shoes I have ever bought, and I have bought dozens of pairs of J&M shoes.<br /><br />The only pro is that they are comfortable.