All things considered--I still hate these shoes.  Why?  The quick lace/pouch system is bloody inefficient.  I was at first a little skeptical of the system, but the good reviews here convinced me to buy these--I'm outdoors a lot, and work my shoes hard.  But with the lacing system, you can't provide varied tension across the tongue--it's, like, one tightness-fits-all.  First and last time I buy a quick lacing system.  I wish the shoe came with loops so I could gut it out and revert to traditional laces.<br /><br />:(