These boots were made of nice leather, reasonably priced while on sale.  I was glad to snatch them up.  But, I usually wear a 9.5 in boots and these were pretty snug.  Light socks only.  The calf was quite snug, although it is a bit adjustable.  I would have been okay with the footbed and the snug calf (no jeans, only leggings or tights), except there was just NO room in the ankle.  Could barely bend.  Even if the leather loosened, then it would have pulled and been crinkly where it had to be forced to bend sharply - because there was no give in the calf area, it couldn't move at all.  I have 13.5 inch calves.  Have to send them back.