I have been buying the Moab ventilator  shoes for years because I absolutely love them. I will be very sad if they  stop making them.  I live in the desert and they are the only hikers I will wear in this hot climate.  I bought the Moab waterproof ones by mistake and found that the waterproof ones fit much tighter and make my feet very hot. I couldn't wear them for more than 1/2 an hour in the house.