Everything was great about this shoe until the tongue just came out, quite easily by the way ,without any pulling by my husband. He was just putting them on one morning and next thing you know the tongue was in his hand. Sent them back and the seller did resew the tongue and gave me some free shoe polish, but they never really fit right. The left one kind of turned to the side when he walked.  I would not buy Joya's again unless it was straight from the Joya factory