[[VIDEOID:df5e74c5af8c65296cb46e4781c53df6]]Got the 9 D, and just a touch larger - perhaps along the lines of 9 1/2 D - yet no floppy clown shoe sensation, with or without socks.  In fact, quite comfortable with socks, so that's the big win... I pretty much wear socks with *everything*. There is a tongue inside to keep the laces from rubbing against the foot.  And great treads.  Love the treads.  :)<br /><br />I did a wet paper towel test, rubbing against the nap, to see if there was any color bleed, and none at all.  It's been pretty damp here in S. Florida (one wet summer), yet so far, no Smurf Socks after the day is done.<br /><br />- Complimentary product provided for evaluation, yet my thinking here reflects all my personal purchasing decision processes, and hopefully may help clarify if this best meets your own needs and expectations.