I had to send these shoes back due to the mislabeling of the size( these are the third pair of shoes I had to send back due to this problem).  I wear an 8.5 and from past experience,  I have learned to order a half size larger.  I ordered a size nine.  They looked small but I tried them on.  Low and behold, my toes hit the top of the shoe!!!! Frustration....Again!!! These shoes are cute and they didn't flare near the ankle area due to my flat feet.  However,  they were too short. I don't think I will be ordering shoes in the near future.  It has become quite frustrating and a waste of time!!!!