Sigh. I love the Livie and Luca shoes however in the description it does not clarify what type of sole the shoe has. This will make a difference in the LIVIE and LUCA sizing chart. Please visit the website of Livie and Luca before ordering, especially if you have ordered their shoes in the past. I thought I had ordered the exact same thing from last year in a different size until it didn't fit. According to LIVIE and LUCA website, the sole will change the size! I ordered what is called a STRIKER sole on it last year and it runs big so I knew she was in a 12 last year, she would fit a 13 now. Nope. The sole is different making this shoe feel like a 12. (this is a TRAC sole) Now I have to return 2 pairs of shoes and search for a STRIKER sole. I will add, that if you can get the right fit for your child, you will not regret buying these shoes. The sole is rubber, almost no skid and the elementary schools love them. She can still wear them on gym days if she wanted and climb monkey  bars safely. They are very durable. My first time buying was last year and when I get done, we will have owned 6 pairs of these. They are great in winter with printed warm tights, dressed up with a short laced sock or even barefoot.