These guys were a bit to small, hurt my toes almost the minute I put them on. Didn't get a larger size because in person they looked a bit childish, kinda. Maybe I'm nitpicking but that's just how I felt. Also for $10 or $15 more you can get a pair of Mozo's, which I did, but I work in a kitchen, so not much need for a steel toe shoe. If you do but, just get a half size or so up and I'm sure they will be fine or if you don't need steel toe I believe they have the same shoe available without steel toe.