These shoes are SO beautiful and I wanted to love them. But unlike several other Taryn Rose flats I own and adore, these cut right across the big toe joint and were extremely painful. Ugh! Why?? BTW, I ordered size 10 and 10.5 and both were the same -- too narrow a depth for the toes and a cut that came right across a very sensitive area. I'm sticking with the Taryn Rose Bryan, which is a beautiful, although more casual, alternative.