I've been wearing Brooks for ten years, and the Beast for six or so. Every time they wear out, I order a new pair of 8.5s and have loved them. These showed up, I threw them on and went for a run— but the fit isn't the same. These are remarkably larger than any size of Brooks 8.5s I've ever seen, to the point that it's visibly evident. They look like clown shoes next to my previous pair. Either Brooks has inexplicably changed their sizing, or these are mislabeled. Super disappointed.