I read all the posts and ordered them. I wanted them since last year but they were all out by the time I was ready for sales. Well, based on the reviews I ordered correctly but the shaft circumference was 18&#34; not 16.5 and that is without any stretch. I wear a 9 wide so I ordered a 91/2 wide. the shoe part fit perfectly. I do wonder if it stretches because its man made not real leather. My calf size is 15.5&#34; so I thought 16.5 would be perfect for socks and pants. It swam on me. I measured it and the shaft circumference was 18&#34;. These go back. Too bad. They need some better quality control.