Oh how I wish I hadn't ordered these shoes! But truly I didn't know. These things killed me when I wore them today. Pinched my damned toes so tight, I was tempted to walk barefoot and in New York, that's PAIN! Listen ya'll, I wanted to cry. Yes, me, a grown woman wanted to cry. I can't return them since I wore them, but when another reviewer wrote that she sent them back because they were too narrow, that should have been enough. If I break them in,maybe they'll be all right. Right now. I can't imagine another day in those bad boys.