I sent these back because I could tell they were going to put way too much torque on my already bad knees.  I had tried Sketchers with the same results and so I just sent these back before I wore them other than in my living room.  I'm sure these are great if you have good knees but I don't.  They are very well made.  They do run a little large and wide..  I don't feel that the fault is with the shoes, just my knees