My daughter is required to have these for class but they don't make her size in children's. She is 10 and wears a big kid size 4, I had to order a women's size 7 to fit her length, but even with elastic and tightening the cord they are too wide. We will just have to make do. She says they are comfortable so I guess that's all that matters. Capezio is the best for ballet shoes and other brands just don't look as nice.