I bought these 30-inch brown laces for a pair of brown leather dress shoes I was trying to improve. The shoes have five pairs of holes for laces. I probably should have stuck with 36-inch laces as the 30-inch laces seem a bit short for the shoes I'm using them for. But they still tie well and they feel like they'll stay tied all day. I like the waxy feel, even though I was a little unsure before I bought them.<br /><br />I would recommend and I would definitely buy again.