I ordered 1 size up since other reviewers had recommended doing so. I usually wear size 8 so I ordered size 9. The shoes that came are marked L9 M7, presumably meaning Ladies size 9. They are at least 2 sizes too big for me. Even in colder months with socks, they will be too big. Otherwise, they would be a good buy! Too bad I can't wear them.  Haven't tried sending them back - maybe I will if I can't find someone with bigger feet to take them.