I ordered these shoes at the end of May to replace my Navajos that fell apart after 6 years of wear.  I wore the shoes 6 times over the next month and they completely broke.  Like walking in a hot parking lot broke.  Of course it's after the 30 days for Amazon, so they won't return it. I have contacted the company Jack Rogers and got a response a week later asking where I bought the shoes.  I responded 30 seconds after that email 5 days ago and still nothing.  Don't waste your money.