Danner should be embarrassed to put their name on these boots. They are made in Vietnam and you can immediately tell the lack of quality when you handle them. They also run extremely small and narrow even though I ordered them a size larger than I wear as I wanted to be able to wear them with thick wool socks. I could hardly put them on wearing just men's thin dress socks. No padding at all around the ankles and tongue. The boots look much better in the picture than in person. If you want Danner quality, you need to pay for it by buying their American made boots. Bummer...