When these shoes came in, I already saw a slight crease on it, and was really upset. But I just ignored it and continued to wear it with my all black jogger, which looks super clean! These shoes look 2x nicer in real life. The all black upper has a bold look and goes along with the nice brown gumsole. Like other Van's shoes, these shoes are 1/2 bigger, so i would recommend going down half a size. I recommend wearing these with black or khaki joggers/chinos.