Save your money.Bottom sole wears down immediately if you are a rotational thrower.Need the hard slick bottom to spin.Had the previous nike  zoom rot. 5 that were green and black for 3 years and they were great and lasted.These wont last and nike doesnt stand behind their product.Sent them back and Nike said they were normal wear and tear and would not give a refund voucher.Had to buy the Nike rotational 6 to actually finish the track season even though my son had been in only 1 meet and the shoes were new.The black and grey  nike zoom rotational 6 ones seem to be better made soles but he may not stick with nike as they charge a fortune and dont stand behind their product.It was a great shoe but i guess all good things come to an end when all they care about is profit .My son is 160 pound rotational thrower and not one of these 6 foot 4 heavier male thrower types. If the shoe cant take that there is a design flaw that Nike wont admit.He has been throwing 6 years and spinning for 3 1/2years<br />It is really too bad they were an awesome shoe and you get more distance with proper shoes