Okay, revision. At first I loved these shoes, so light weight I felt like I was wearing comfy slippers with support. I wore them to work, around the house and on errands. Casual wear. Then I took them on holiday as walking shoes, mostly for the times I would be in the city. No. Just no. After about an hour of walking my feet ached. The bridge seemed to tight, and the support i had in casual day to day wear disappeared into ouchy tired feet. Then, rain. I wore them in the rain, because I was on holiday, it rained and I was out in London walking. They never really dried completely, were soaked through, and my feet just hated them. They ended up in the bin after 3 days of sitting on a radiator to dry and still feeling like a wet blanket. I ended up walking around the rest of the tim ein my Doc Maarten  oxfords, which though much heavier kept my feet dry, plenty of support and good tread. Okay maybe these were not designed for walking shoes. What were they designed for? Added note- they run narrow, which I liked, my feet are slightly narrow, however I have very high arches and had to leave them very loosesly tied as the top /bridge of my foot was full on aching if I tied them even slightly tight.I'm happy with my other skechers that are just slip on no tie  shoes.