These mocs are pretty nice esp. at $65 versus Todds at $500. Only problem was the leather shoelace snapped the second I tried to tighten the shoe a bit. Cheap, dry leather shoelaces, total junk.<br />We'll see how they last. They otherwise look pretty sturdy but the bad lace is not appreciated especially right out of the box! A sign of the times. Cheap third-world manufacturing-we asked for it and we got it.