For the price, when I order a 2E, I expect them to fit maybe a bit snug but not this snug. Also, the length was shorter than expected. I have some Waverider 17's also and they ran a bit narrow, but  at least the length was good and they fit the width.  After 6 months of wearing the 17's, they do not support my arch enough, and I thought maybe the 17's were worn out.  Turns out I'm wrong there too, the 17's just stopped supporting.<br /><br />I'm about to start buying my shoes from a Brick and Mortar once again because the sizes are so far off that it's not worth the savings of buying on-line.