The shoes fit pretty close to what I expected, though they fit a little tighter than the 8505s I used to have. My feet are somewhat wide and flat. I do think they would be more comfortable if I had an arch and slightly more narrow feet. I can't fault the shoe for my feet, however, so I still give this shoe a thumbs up. So, if you're somewhat flat-footed, I'd advise ordering a WIDE size, or look elsewhere unless you don't mind sacrificing comfort for style.