Good all around mountain bike shoe.  The bottoms are sufficiently stiff to limit foot pain from hours on the pedals.  Traditional mountain bike shoes are still better for those epic rides in limiting soreness on the ball of your foot but you do sacrifice walking ability when the need arises.  These shoes are much better for walking.  Once again it is a good all around mountain bike shoe for the weekend warriors.  A bit too heavy for those who are looking to race and need to shed weight.