I switched to Asics several years ago and the Nimbus the last 3 pairs. I didn't move up to the 17 this year because the fabric looked too thin and not heavy duty enough for all day use. Bought another pair of Nimbus 16.  They are probably great for dedicated running, but I wear this type of shoe all day in summer.<br /><br />With Asics I need to go wider and longer than normal street shoes and other brands.