Somewhat decent item but again Isotoner clearly can't figure out a shoe size if their life depended on it. Not as small as the other pair I purchased and I can at least wear a thin sock with these versus barefoot all the time that can really stink them up. Maybe over time they will stretch but it'll likely take a while. I guess I'll wear my old ones until that happens. Quality is ok but I wouldn't want to pay retail for them either as fair retail if you ask me is around $30 tops not $44 as marked as the suede may be real but looks no better than the fake stuff and likely will be harder to maintain. I'm returning the other ones I purchased with these and will try the last ones that fit well by them. That will be a defining moment when I know they changed the sizing or manufacturing. Of course if I find they did I'll let everyone know and amazon will get them back for the larger size and I'll try again.