Something was not right with these shoes. I opened the box within an hour of receipt. The shoes look as if they have been worn and someone has tried to clean them. Color on the turquoise color is as if it has been cleaned causing changes in color on parts of the shoe leather. I can see towel particles on the sole as if someone has tried to clean the soles. I have requested a refund. Now I'm in the process of requesting the seller to pay for return shipping. I didn't bother to try them on. I was very disappointed in their appearance. I own several pair of Josef Seibel shoes and love them.