It's my fault, I should have ordered a 13.  They are too narrow, too small and I normally 11.5 and figured the 12 would be nice.  If you wear anything above a 10.... just get the 13.  They are constructed really well and I did manage to wear them for a few hours while in Ecuador as inside shoes.  But I left them there with a friend who wears size 10 and they fit him perfect.<br /><br />If they had fit like they were supposed to, I would have loved them.  I would have returned them too, but they were a last minute item for my trip and then I left them behind as a gift.