well, they are well made, leather, look nice, comfortable.  They are slightly more padded than the previous iteration which is nice for wearing them around but not so great when lifting weights.  They are comfortable but billed as cross trainers but the heel is too narrow to make them great runners and the forefoot bereft of any protection or padding for running.  If you are looking for a nice black shoe to wear around these would be it but for serious cross training they are not quite the shoe you are looking for.