These just didn't work for me. The stitching on the heel is lovely, and the shoe has a high quality feel, but the point just wasn't as flattering as I hoped it would be and they were a little too wide. They were also a little too long, and I considered going down a half size, but I just didn't like the shape of the shoe enough to try again. When I spend this much on a pair of shoes, I expect a much better fit. I opted for a pair of Clark heels instead and I'll try Frye shoes again some other time.