....... 'meh.  These are okay at best.  My husband got them for work but they hurt his feet,  have little support,  too big even with extra inserts and the sole is wearing oddly.  We have only had them for a couple months.  :-(  I wouldn't buy them again.  UPDATE:  worst work boots we've ever bought.  They didn't even last 4 months.  Do yourself a favor and buy Thorogood boots. Union Made in USA. Skip these China Junkers