These were to be my 4th pair of trotters. Regrettably, they run 1/2 to 1 size too short. I compared the length to my other three pairs of trotters, my two pairs of clarks (all of which are in 8.5W) even my ecco which are European size 39 (8-8.5) and all were longer than these pink trotters. I wonder if they were missed marked. They are the correct width for an 8.5 just way to short. Also the pink is not a clear pink but it has a lot of beige in the color. They have to go back.