These are my first &#34;toms&#34; and I got W 8.5 for my size, it was a little to small so I suggest to check and measure your feet properly before buying. luckily, just wearing them a few times, I was able to break them in and now I love them.<br />I always thought they were real toms because they even came in a toms box, but month later after buying them I just happened to be surfing amazon.com, and came across some of the comments people had about the shoe I had bought back in the beginning of the year, some comments were positives but so many more negatives. I really liked these shoes and they came on time, but the more I read negative comments the more I realized past customers weren't lying, the shoes aren't real because if you compare them to the real thing, they aren't as alike as you'd think. I was able to catch the glue marks in between the sole and the shoe all around, and the stitching isn't even good! How did I not notice this before? Oh well, I can still use them fine and didn't have so much for a real pair, the only thing that changes is a kid didn't get a free pair like what it says on the inside of the shoes. This is weird though and makes me think they are real toms, past commenters were saying that on the inside of the shoe it had that trademark symbol, but that's wrong. Real Toms have the R with a circle around it, and so do the ones I have. So who knows if its fake or not!? Or these mad customers are just mad and over reacting? I'm not mad, I just wanted a pair.