these shoes are too low and feel like they could slip off at any time. The thing that is holding your foot on is a piece of plastic that grinds into your ankle. I don't understand these shoes at all. My Asics trail runners are vastly superior. If anyone has not worn a pair of Asics trail runners I highly suggest it. They are much more supportive and very comfortable. If you like these Saucony shoes I assume it's because you don't know that something better exists