A am returning these. I have several other pairs of Keens, including a pair of tall boots, and these are total junk! I don't know where to begin. There is no arch support. The padding in the soles feels cheap, not the cloudlike memory foam in my 4 year old boots. The soles are HARD rubber, like a dress shoe. They actually clickity-clack when I walked through my kitchen in them! They have zero traction. My Keen slippers have more traction. I could not imagine walking in wet or slush conditions in these!! The decorative band around the ankle would make it impossible to get these on in socks--it is still warm where I live so I tried them on without socks and could barely get them on, and I ordered a half size up to allow for thick socks. I have no idea what went wrong with the manufacturing of these boots or how on earth they passed Keen's muster, but they are absolutely cheap!