This is my second pair from Hoka, and I expected so much more. I loved my first pair, Cliphton. In shoes I need support and cushion. When I received these shoes I realized how many more things can go wrong. The shoe is VERY stiff, the sole does not bend and does not respond to the foot. The sole from the inside burns, so after about 15 minutes run my feet are on fire. The top is transparent, which would probably make it a problem when it starts raining and snowing. I can't wait to burn 500 miles in these and throw them away. HUGE DISSAPOINTMENT!