Way too long for size. I usually take a 9 or 39 in most comfort shoes, i order sandals in 8.5 because of open toe, These at 8.5 are much longer than a 9 in  other shoes, not wearable sending back. They look just ok, i'd wear if the fit but nothing special for the price.<br />cannot recommend.the white insole would be a pain to keep clean and they look a bit tacky cheap for dressy shoes.