Good fit but did not last. I would give them a 3 -1/2. I wore them almost everyday ( I am a teacher so no hard wear) and they lasted about 6 months. The soles wore fine. But the leather is cracking at the toe crease, And like other poster said, the padded collar is not leather and is flaking. I actually recommend a brand &#34;show with the Ponderosa&#34; Boots you can find on that auction site. They are high quality, built on a goodyear welt, made in Mexico.<br /><br />If you bought a pair of work sneaker-shoes for about the same price, the heel would have worn the through the corner. In this case the leather wears through. So value wise, it's a toss-up