I bought them because they were cheap and canvas. Straight from the package, the stretchy part came pre-ripped. I've bought from this company before and liked it, but I doubt I'll further my repeat customer attitude here.<br />Also, I ordered them a size up as noted by the reviews, but they were far too large. So, maybe just order what you normally wear.<br />I can sew them to fix them, but I shouldn't have to.