These boots are very well made. Great traction. Great leather. Great laces and loops It took a long time (a month of wearing them constantly) to get the leather to loosen up a little. And even then, the toe crease never got better. Always painful. I had to stop wearing them and went with the Keen Targee II. Unfortunately, by that time, my Amazon return window had expired. Lesson of the day: never buy shoes online that you can't return without trying them on first. These may be great for you. But for my feet, they didn't work. Its a shame because they are very high quality boots.