Ordered these from another site in a 13 wide (my normal size).  Unfortunately, the fit was neither 13 nor wide.  The toe box was too narrow and my three outer toes were pressing up against the front of the shoe.  Would try a 14 wide, but sadly they only make 14 in medium.  I'm bummed it didn't fit true to size, because it's a nice shoe and felt very sturdy (comfortable through the heel and arch).  Had it fit, I likely would have given it 5 stars.