Do not buy these shoes! I owned Rockport shoes in the past and they were always quality shoes. Those days are apparently past. I have had these shoes less than 4 months and they are falling apart! The stitching is coming out of the leather upper and the leather upper is also separating from one of the shoes. I hate it that these companies start and produce a great product and then deal with success by industrializing manufacture with cheap alternative materials. Do not waste your money on these shoes. They are very poorly made. Comfortable but do not last with even normal wear.