Very well made shoes.  Very comfortable.  I bought these because they had leather quarter lining and leather insoles to make them last.  Update:  Six months later.... These shoes have had very light use.  I was really disappointed that the outer layer of the outsole started coming off in chunks.  First a small piece, then more all over (bottoms, sides).  Leaves pieces of rubber in the house.  The rest of the shoe is perfect and I will wear them now and again, but for the price I paid, these are a big disappointment.  I won't look for a return, but will never buy from this manufacturer again.  Too bad that a really decent shoe is spoiled by just one flaw.