 Sorry that you feel this way Malangali I dont suppose that I can persuade you but I did try and do my homework Iringa is not offically designated a city at present unlike Mwanza Dar and Arusha you asserted this in the article but it is simply factually incorrect A seperate question is whether Iringa can be referred to as a city outside of the Tz governments definition OK First I assure you that urban can imply either town or city particularly when contrasted with rural see urban area I checked two English language travel guides for Tanzania both of whom use town Moreover I contacted some Tanzanians in Iringa who agreed that it was town rather than a city not that personal anecdotes are a reliable source in Wikipedia just to try and convince you that the town thing is not just from some deluded mzungu insisting on a patronising colonial viewpoint or whatever it is youve decided I am doing I dont believe in individual ownership of Wikipedia articles However city is not the best word here and its entirely reasonable for me to oppose it Again I regret clashing with you on this and Im very happy to discuss and change my mind on things and Im glad youve improved this article but Im afraid I will not simply agree with whatever you say just because Im English and you I presume are a Tanzanian  

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 Sorry that you feel this way Malangali I dont suppose that I can persuade you but I did try and do my homework Iringa is not offically designated a city at present unlike Mwanza Dar and Arusha you asserted this in the article but it is simply factually incorrect A seperate question is whether Iringa can be referred to as a city outside of the Tz governments definition OK First I assure you that urban can imply either town or city particularly when contrasted with rural see urban area I checked two English language travel guides for Tanzania both of whom use town Moreover I contacted some Tanzanians in Iringa who agreed that it was town rather than a city not that personal anecdotes are a reliable source in Wikipedia just to try and convince you that the town thing is not just from some deluded mzungu insisting on a patronising colonial viewpoint or whatever it is youve decided I am doing I dont believe in individual ownership of Wikipedia articles However city is not the best word here and its entirely reasonable for me to oppose it Again I regret clashing with you on this and Im very happy to discuss and change my mind on things and Im glad youve improved this article but Im afraid I will not simply agree with whatever you say just because Im English and you I presume are a Tanzanian  

