 The preceding unsigned comment was added by  talk  contribs  Im not sure I get your point  Readers of Wikipedia arent required to be familiar with all of its policies and guidelines and so it cant be assumed that they will know about the notability requirements which are in fact only a guideline  Moreover there are plenty of organizations which dont go out of their way to publicize themselves yet are still notable and aggrandizing connotates way more than just publicity  Including selfaggrandizing doesnt at all suggest that thats their primary motive  As well there could be notable trolls or notable trolling groups who dont selfaggrandize and certainly not to the extent and in the joie de vire manner the GNAA does  Indeed many trolling groups and individuals try to obscure or hide the fact that theyre trolls which often makes their activities more successful Therefore phrase is clearly relevant and not POV  

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 The preceding unsigned comment was added by  talk  contribs  Im not sure I get your point  Readers of Wikipedia arent required to be familiar with all of its policies and guidelines and so it cant be assumed that they will know about the notability requirements which are in fact only a guideline  Moreover there are plenty of organizations which dont go out of their way to publicize themselves yet are still notable and aggrandizing connotates way more than just publicity  Including selfaggrandizing doesnt at all suggest that thats their primary motive  As well there could be notable trolls or notable trolling groups who dont selfaggrandize and certainly not to the extent and in the joie de vire manner the GNAA does  Indeed many trolling groups and individuals try to obscure or hide the fact that theyre trolls which often makes their activities more successful Therefore phrase is clearly relevant and not POV  

