I am simply asking that WIKI stands be applied and not the sensibilites of a warring faction I would agree that this is not high on any scale of importance what the issue is to me is that is WIKI going to allow open editing o nthis article or is Pats1 going to get to delete anyhting he chooses and claim nonnotable If so then greater WIKI principles are violated because one guy thinks he WPOWNS an article and he and his followers can shoutdown dissenters by false claims of majority rules So to the substance I dont want to overstate the importance of this but I dont want it to be understeded either the speech is what it is nothing more nothing less I dont think making comparisons to other players and their speeches suits this discussion because I could point out hundreds of things in NFL project articles that are not notable in someones opinions So on the merits this is verifiable and it is a NPOV It is notable because it is national press I have never seen that conference mentioned in USA Today ever I have read that paper since 1985 or so Now could I have missed it in previous years Sure However I think it got national news becasue of WHO was speaking That ends the discussion really A separate discussion is whether it should be in the article but one step at a time It is notable under wiki standards Under wiki guidelines yes Is it NPOV yes Is is verfiable Yes Can it be deleted because of majority rule No Should a real WPCONSENSUS be reached Yes7203636  

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I am simply asking that WIKI stands be applied and not the sensibilites of a warring faction I would agree that this is not high on any scale of importance what the issue is to me is that is WIKI going to allow open editing o nthis article or is Pats1 going to get to delete anyhting he chooses and claim nonnotable If so then greater WIKI principles are violated because one guy thinks he WPOWNS an article and he and his followers can shoutdown dissenters by false claims of majority rules So to the substance I dont want to overstate the importance of this but I dont want it to be understeded either the speech is what it is nothing more nothing less I dont think making comparisons to other players and their speeches suits this discussion because I could point out hundreds of things in NFL project articles that are not notable in someones opinions So on the merits this is verifiable and it is a NPOV It is notable because it is national press I have never seen that conference mentioned in USA Today ever I have read that paper since 1985 or so Now could I have missed it in previous years Sure However I think it got national news becasue of WHO was speaking That ends the discussion really A separate discussion is whether it should be in the article but one step at a time It is notable under wiki standards Under wiki guidelines yes Is it NPOV yes Is is verfiable Yes Can it be deleted because of majority rule No Should a real WPCONSENSUS be reached Yes7203636  

