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The context was my asking "why didn't The Perl Foundation get any Google SoC projects?" I then implied that they don't do a whole lot, because I checked their IRS filings and noticed that they had several hundred thousand dollars sitting in a checking account. Why not put it in a savings account?

We then get to being banned from contributing to HTML::Tidy:

22:48 <@jrockway> fine, i will happily mentor someone in an area i am familar
with
22:48 <@jrockway> i have no problem with that at all
22:48 <@jrockway> next year.
22:48 <@Andy> That doesn't do much good now.
22:48 <@jrockway> what can i do this year?
22:48 <@Andy> Well, for one you can quit denigrating TPF about how useless it
is.
22:49 <@jrockway> no, i can't do that
22:49 <@jrockway> what's something real i can do
22:49 <@Andy> I'm sorry to hear that you can't do that.
22:49 <@Andy> because I think that's pretty much a requirement to help out.
22:49 <@jrockway> no, it's not
22:49 <@Andy> Nobody wants help from someone who's complaining about things.
22:49 <@jrockway> you should accept help even if people don't like you (not you
personally, i mean the TPF)
22:49 <@jrockway> fine
22:49 <@jrockway> i will continue to whine then
22:50 <@jrockway> that's good for everyone
22:50 <@Andy> I have no doubt about that.
22:50 * jrockway goes to work on perl projects
22:50 <@elliot> :/
22:50 <@Andy> Not HTML::Tidy, though.
22:50 <@jrockway> "THATS MINE DON'T TOUCH IT"
22:50 <@jrockway> so constructive
22:51 <@Andy> No, I just don't need help from someone who bashes and denigrates.
22:51 <@jrockway> that's childish, but whatever
22:53 <@Andy> Not sure how choosing to decide who to work with is childish.
22:53 <@jrockway> meritocracy
22:54 <@jrockway> i accept patches / comments from anyone
22:54 <@jrockway> if the code is good, i could care less who gives it to me
22:54 <@Andy> Open source is about more than code.
22:54 <@jrockway> to you
22:55 <@hobbs> actually its motto is "shut up and show us the code"
22:55 <@jrockway> to me it is about code and solving problems
22:55 <@jrockway> hobbs++
22:55 <@Andy> Not all problems are solved through code.
22:56 <@jrockway> to be honest i haven't run into anyone that i have personal
problems with
22:56 <@jrockway> and mst is often not very nice to me
22:56 <@chargrill> well, mst is often a jerk to a lot of people.
22:56 <@jrockway> i get over it, he's a good programmer
22:56 <@jrockway> he says the same about me
22:56 <@Andy> jrockway: There are plenty of people you have personal problems
with.
22:56 <@jrockway> i don't like that implication
22:56 <@Andy> OK.
22:57 <@jrockway> i have no problems with you, i have a problem with TPF
22:57 <@jrockway> i am not the only one
22:57 <@Andy> I wasn't talking about me.
22:58 <@jrockway> do we really need to focus on "who likes who"
22:59 <@jrockway> i mean, there's myspace for that
22:59 <@Andy> It's a key part of open source.
22:59 <@Andy> And I'd ask you to consider that.
23:01 <@jrockway> so what's the resolution to this?
23:01 <@jrockway> i still dislike TPF, and you have one fewer developer on
HTML::Tidy?
23:01 <@jrockway> that is always good
23:01 <@jrockway> big win for everyone

Incidentally, a few people created a new TPF-like entity. So I must have not been the only person in the world that didn't think they were amazingly effective or transparent.