'I searched the topic, clicked, saw something I agreed with and replied.  The subject isn't time-sensitive.|||Yes, somehow feeling overly invested in other people's happiness is a part of it.  Deciding that it's really important for a person we've grown attached to to be happy and fulfilled in order for us...|||I completely relate to this.  It's not an imposition of my will upon the other, but more a continual desire/encouragement of them to grow into whatever I perceive to be their best selves.  It doesn't...|||I can really relate to this post.  In fact, I logged into the forum today expressly to discuss feeling really out of sorts with the people around me in a way that seems to increase as I get older. ...|||Tw  This is a really good post and view on Te-Fi rigidity and frequent inability to see its own narrownwss.  It actually relates well to a disagreement I have with an INTJ which pretty much boils...|||I should have added that things like betrayal have a moral component and so when it comes to things that are bad many people will refuse to do what crosses their moral boundary lines.  When it...|||...play nice until they realize their diplomatic skills are insufficient to accomplish their goals.  Then they may use pressure, coercion, or even betrayal to achieve their ends.|||Bossiness in ESFJs comes from their conviction that they really know what is best for others and a desire to help that come about.  It is likely benevolent (when more mature), and might seem a little...|||Love this post because I recently realized the importance of just setting a deadline and moving forward with the best of what you have at that point.  Otherwise, Ni-Ti will cause the deliberation to...|||I can't speak to the books, but BBC Sherlock is ISTP imo.  There is very, very little abstraction in his character or thought process.  All of his observations are intricate deductions from physical...|||I am not a sentimental person.   I think everyone has emotions.  I don't think that feeling deeply and sentimentality are the same thing.  I suppose the basic definition simply refers to tender...|||INFJs rank as the 4th most gifted IQ wise, so I'm going to say the Socionics bit was nonsense.  It reads more like someone aggressively attempting to take a  group of people down a peg than...|||No, though the list was not what I expected.  I do think that I generally understand others more accurately than most people do (which doesn't actually mean that I relate better).  I also think I...|||I had a very close friendship with an ENTP in high school and college.  In college in particular, yes, I can say the op is very true.  I almost think we could have started a cult if we were so...|||After a while I just stop engaging.  It's like I automatically go into power down mode after I've reached my limit--whether I'm actually alone or not!  My sister (ESTP) has learned to recognize...|||double post|||I work 24-7, not necessarily at work but on goals.  I am always working toward something, so much so that I recognize I need to spend time just relaxing and having fun.  But I don't because I feel...|||The MBTI was built upon Jung's theory of psychological types, point, blank period.  Of course subsequent researchers have wanted to distinguish themselves by promoting something unique, but I think...|||I think it's hilarious how many of the posts boil down to, Yeah, they say we're arrogant, but it's just because they aren't on our level.  :wink:    This.  I just posted something similar in...|||As far as the op goes, I might consider whether the INFJ in question isn't actually an INFP.  The reason is that INFJs also have Ti and aren't particularly inclined to take disagreements personally. ...|||From my experience:  Strengths: --Enthusiasm, which gives them great energy and a fun-loving personality --Curiosity --Wit --Creativity --gung-ho mentality (which I suppose goes along with the...|||I think the entire project of The Republic is an Fe fantasy.  Probably an Fe-Ni fantasy.  It's all about creating the ideal social order.|||Well, I'd first say that only analytic philosophy is Ti based.  Otherwise, one can make heavy use of Ni and even Fe.  I would say that Plato's Republic is Fe dominant.  I majored in Philosophy...|||No, I understand that completely.  I was out with a guy once-ISTP-and we were doing a lot of walking and of course my feet were hurting but I wouldn't just stop for a rest.  Finally he said we were...|||So, my sister is an ESTP and one of the main things that I notice that she has always had and I do not, is a very keen sense of what is in her own best interest.  People, places, whatever.  She...|||Interesting that you put it this way.  I've noticed in the past that I tend to be very organized about my relationships in that, where some people are obsessive about making sure all of their...|||When I was a kid and young teen, I was very preoccupied with fitting in and becoming well liked and popular.  And yet, I was always terrible at fitting in, terrible at not being myself.  Some people...|||Will--ESTP (but I will give a nod to ESFP). I think he's a T because he is always scheming...that's like every episode.  I really don't see much N in Will's character at all.    Phil--ESTJ...|||Will--ESTP (but I will give a nod to ESFP).  I think he's a T because he is always scheming...that's like every episode. Phil--ESTJ Vivian (new)--ISFJ Vivian (old)--INFJ Carlton--ISTJ...|||I am an INFJ, a Christian, seriously considered religious life (ordination, religious orders), and was spiritual/religious (of my own volition) as a child.|||This is more or less what I've seen.  The two male ENFJs I know were pretty popular people-persons, charming, funny, etc.  Neither showed problems fitting in.  I don't think men necessarily have to...|||My thoughts about this are that INFJs, or Ns in general, probably would feel most comfortable in a culture that is more N dominant, whether extraverted or introverted.  As Ni is the INFJ's primary...|||So,  I actually meant jon rather than Jamie, but I'm not sure about Jamie either.  Te is fundamentally about external order.  It's observations are about the things that Te is concerned with.  Ti...|||I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I don't see much Te in Jamie at all.  When?  Where?  Then again, maybe this is a difference between the books and the show.|||I've read the books (through#3, in #4 now).and I don't know that I'd say he's an ISTJ.  I don't think his dominant process is Te at all and I doubt he's a T more generally.  I would sooner say ISFJ.|||Yes to the bold.    I am confronting this tendency within myself--the self-sabotage related to fear of success.  I agree that fear of success is a proxy fear for fear of other things, including...|||I'm just now realizing that a couple of dear male friends are esfj types.  They are very dear to my heart, even when their faults are clear.  Another one is an ISFJ.  These men have hearts of gold. ...|||This is pretty much what I was going to say.  I think INFJs fall into the Ni-Ti loop (or more simply, their own worlds) because Se is not there to ground them in concrete reality.  If Fe is used...|||So I only recently figured out the real difference between Fi and Fe, and having done so, it makes so much sense of the ways I've been offended by people in the past.  Generally I am not quick to...|||I am the oldest.|||I've discovered more lately that my behavior is much less fixed than I would have believed about myself according to what I would claim is right in a situation.  I abhor hypocrisy, so I don't...|||I support decriminalization, but not legalization per se.  Decriminalization meaning possession would be tantamount to a speeding ticket.  Maybe possession over a certain amount could be fined.  The...|||I didn't say it was bunk.  Not in the least.  I said that you cannot have MB without Jung.  Myers and Briggs intentionally built the MBTI to reflect or operationalize Jung's cognitive functions. ...|||Myers-Briggs doesn't work without the cognitive functions.  MBTI is only the type indicator, not the system itself and the types only confirm the cognitive process ordering.  I don't think there's a...|||So, I haven't actually watched the show.  i have read the books (1-3).    To jump into the more heated points, I have to say that I think Tyrion is definitely an ENTP, and at the least, in no way...|||I found an extroverted sensing exercise online.  http://www.psychological-types.com/TB/E/dev/ES.pdf|||I'm bumping this old thread because I've been thinking about art lately and realizing that it seems that INFPs are not naturally inclined to focus much on physical detail, given that Extroverted...|||Interesting chart.  So by cognitive process breakdown according to what processes dominate in each type, it looks like introverted judging (Ti or Fi), followed by extroverted intuition (Ne), followed...|||Regarding whether the question is meaningful, it seems to be about as meaningful as psychological type theory is.  Forget IQ, why talk about type?  It's just discussion that might help some people to...|||I agree.    What IQ generally refers to is someone's ability to assimilate information.  There's a concept out there called the G Factor which is almost like computer processing speed: how...'