'I used to date an INTP chick. I didn't feel comfortable with the silence so I had to think about things to talk about and I had to initiate conversations and I ended up being the active one. I could...|||RAU4ever,  I dislike arguments too. We will make up eventually. I've told her what happened and I told her I didn't forget anything. I didn't apologise but I probably will when I can make it...|||Me! Still dealing with my ESTJ narcissist mother. I think INFPs are easy targets how it works in practice really depends on yourself. If you're the perfect child to your narcissist parent (I used to...|||Thanks for the good points Bago. I've got some thinking to do now. We are in the beginning in many ways. Communication-wise at least.|||Thanks for the responses. I also didn't think white lies would come naturally if you're an ESTJ. I often tell white lies to certain ESTJ. I don't want them to worry about me (and give advice or their...|||It's been great reading all the responses here. I think exactly the same way. I probably should've given you more context earlier but for some reason I didn't think it would be necessary. Not...|||Thanks everyone. Very interesting reading. I'm happy to see that ESTJ's seem to understand much more than I expected. Apparently my ESTJ mom also has a NPD so her answers to my questions are very...|||I've just read pages after pages about NPD and narcissist mothers and it's scary how familiar all of it sounds. Somehow it feels like a huge relief too. I haven't been able to check my email in a few...|||How she judged me: Instead of showing any interest in any of the messages that I wrote to her, she says that you forgot it. it's not important to you  That's the judgement.  Hm.. I also don't...|||Thanks for the link JustJac. That's very interesting. Obviously I'm not even getting the apology language that I look for (Genuinely repent).  My apologies to others are much shorter. I don't...|||My ENFP partner is telling me now if you don't say sorry to me, you will not see me anymore.  Anyway, I'm not very confident when it comes to dealing with ENFPs and I don't have any previous...|||So many real kisses! So here's an imaginary one which will actually happen every now and then because I'm lucky :)  It's somewhere private or even public if it's possible to ignore the...|||I would say some of the behavior is more about personality than maturity but regarding maturity, I can think of a couple that I consider immature:  -Saying I told you so. -Holding a grudge.|||I'm a teacher too (CS)! I love kids but I actually prefer teaching at the undergraduate level. I've done lots of lecturing and supervising at graduate and post-graduate levels too but that often...|||My ESTJ mother decided to give me a lecture about saying thank you at a family get-together. Well it didn't end there. To strengthen her arguments, she's now sent me links to articles about...|||What does it mean when an ESTJ apologises?  1. I'm sorry that I hurt you...? no that doesn't sound right. Let's try again. 2. I'm sorry that you got hurt but it wasn't my fault...? maybe not. One...|||WickedQueen your post here doesn't sound like an ESTJ wrote it at all!! I'm just about to lose my sanity with my ESTJ mother. There's no common ground! She came over for a family luncheon and she...|||I'm struggling to understand and cope with an ESTJ so I've come here once again because I'm not getting any answers from that ESTJ. She's not answering my questions because she's not sure that it...|||Interesting post by Chef Sean. I rarely post here anymore but I couldn't resist with this one. I might even see a few things that seem to go wrong.   First, why are you after INFP girls? If you're...|||What kind of sex isn't slutty?  I forgot to mention something. When an INFP has casual sex with others, it's not exactly the same thing as someone else having it. Right? It also doesn't mean that...|||Easy answer to the easy question: no you're not the only one. But telling about it to others? If it doesn't hurt anyone and if others bring it up, then why not. Although they say that INFP's are very...|||I think my ESTJ mom has diagnosed me with one of these conditions, aspergers or autism. I've never thought I've got any of those but how would I know? No one has ever suggested that I take any tests...|||How about Billy Joel: Just The Way You Are. One of my recent favs :)|||I've done it too and I've been choosing love all the way no matter what I've had to discard. yup I used to have a career. oh well. You do whatever makes you happy, and to each their own...  (I think...|||I couldn't agree more with JerseyDevil (hockey fan?) You can change your life and make your dreams come true and that's not even the end of the dreams. You'll have more dreams later but sometimes you...|||I don't have experience of either field, but I do have the experience of the difficult choice which isn't really that difficult once you try both. My choice has been between working for a...|||Sure I've been through that but I'm not trapped anymore :)  Here's what I did: I quit my job, sold my house, moved to the other side of the world. Wife and kids haven't follow me... not yet anyway....|||How old are you espresso? If you don't mind me asking...  I had to reflect on this in the past until I was in a long-term relationship with a girl and that pretty much made it clear to me. It might...|||I don't think she's selfish. She can find someone who wants exactly the same thing and they could be a perfect couple, both giving each other the same illusion (of inequality)... or if not, I'm...|||I think I disagree with this one. I had a 7-8-year relationship with an ENFJ who didn't have the same ideals as me in the beginning but she slowly adopted my ideals, probably because of her E. It was...|||Why is this complete acceptance a goal anyway? Why not give her something to tease you about? something that she can feel good about because she's better? If the lady is the right one for you, she'll...|||Good points ForsakenMe. Obviously there's going to be someone with the video camera so you'll get to laugh at yourselves later too.   But yeah if you're both I's, you might not have as many friends...|||I was never organized enough to do the organizing myself and I also made that clear when I figured out over 600 people would be attending. Pretty much everyone was invited and there was room for...|||Brisbane...?|||Because the type INFP describes me. It's never 100% accurate because not all INFP's are the same.   Where did the physical boxes and physical limitations come from? I never thought thinking...|||Then why would my friends accuse me of plagiarism? I couldn't possibly take credit for such a masterpiece. :happy: ...and if they played it on the radio at the same time, it wouldn't sound any...|||Some of us would turn into extroverts according to some theory. You may remove the biggest extroverts from the room.. and what happens? Some people in the room are still the biggest extroverts in the...|||I think it's safe to assume that someone in their 30's is more mature than someone who's just turned 20. It can't be only INFP's either who have an open mind and who learn from their mistakes. You...|||Thanks for your input everyone! I'll give tea a try, I promise, although I might still need my fix (of coffee) too.  I don't actually want to meet new strangers in coffee shops all the time. Just...|||I just love these arguments with TJ's. It's like arguing with my ESTJ mom. Oh well.  lirulin: It's exactly the same question that linguists ask about languages. You're a native speaker of your own...|||I figured that coffee shops are very common places where you can find INFPs. I'm not surprised as I often want to find one (a quiet one preferably, good coffee, good service, but not too popular). ...|||I don't have a problem if someone wants to call this music :) If it's music to someone... then it must be music, right? I don't even have to agree with them.|||I see a lot of personal opinions here. But is your world defined by you? If someone else has a different idea of music, are they wrong? I think everyone is entitled to have their own ideas.  When...|||I know the intense emotions but I've never really talked about the intensity of them when I've talked about my feelings. I still don't even know how to describe them. It can be a good or a bad...|||I actually like the strong emotions when I'm by myself. I didn't realise that others might not have them until I heard about MBTI. Now I've also learned how to feel some of them whenever I want! It's...|||Go for it refugee! It only hurts once if she says no. You can't lose much. You might make a fool out of yourself but I'm guessing that you won't really care. I've been there a few times. What can go...|||It's not any harder for males than it is for females. There are lots of female E's out there who can take the initiative and who can be brave when you're feeling shy. If being visible is hard, how...|||...when your wife finds your cell-phone in the fridge. Honey-yy...?  ...when you miss your bus stop because you were imagining something unreal and the 10 minutes real time on the bus took only 1...|||What are you talking about?  [Rolling their eyes]: Here we go again...|||I find Kevin's thnking a bit strange (or just different). Why can't thunderstorms and air conditioners be music? ...and what's the definition of music anyway? Can't everyone have their own definition...'