It is a grand question of course. A lot of it has to do with what you value and what lying will cost you. I don't think any of us can say we'd never lie.  If someone had a gun to my head, I would...|||Well, being free to have your own moral code doesn't prevent anyone else from calling it bad/wrong. That is what letting people have their own moral code is about... they're going to conflict with...|||I think we should be careful about the connotations of words and the declaration of 'goodness'  A guy at work once asked me if I am honest. I said yes. He said, the the truest answer is, as honest...|||I don't think there's any one source for morals. I'll try to enumerate them here, but I'll probably miss some  1. Biology. I think we are in fact hard-wired for certain kinds of morality. We might...|||I think you're automatically assuming religions were created for  manipulation. While we have much better explanations today why lightning  strikes or the mysteries of the universe, back then, not so...|||In all likelyhood it was Te people who invented religion.  Well probably more NT... people who sit around thinking and making connections and seeking answers to *the truth*.  So why is it so hard...|||So eugenics is what is advocated. There's nothing 'wrong' with a little Eugenics. Outlawing incest is eugenics.  It just so happens, you don't like that word.  It's like arms control. Outlawing...|||Yeah, power is complex. I didn't mean to imply it was all about raw power. There's also age as it relates to choice. Are you 'mature' enough to make such a decision...  It's just something to watch...|||I'm not going to ponder definition of nice and kind.  But I agree with the theme that intention matters.  I also don't think ISFJ's or any type is particularly more giving in any true sense than...|||I would say we do seek to have meaning and understanding of things. Seems like a natural fit for mysticism or political interests...|||Aside from biological/genetic issues, I don't think much of it. As long as: it's consensual, the people are of proper age, there is no exploitation going on...  That all said, there is a practical...|||Ah, exes trying to be friends or not :P Not only is this a general complication of men/women relations, but now we throw in an INTJ oddness.  I think he understands it, he is just having fun with...|||Yeah, on average few times a month. As others have said, more on a philosophical level like if life is not positively pleasurable, what's the point of living?  The old pros and cons.|||Frank Underwood style. It's my new moto.|||All types are capable of all the kids of thinking.  I always like to think of the attributes of the type as being their natural state.  I'm an INTJ, does it mean I don't use my senses to see the...|||Chicken  Because if something came from nothing, it might as well be fully formed to continue the cycle :P An egg coming from nothing would have a hard time hatching and growing up without a...|||So here's a few things.  1. Men and women are often different. This is sometimes so hard for women to understand these days. And yes, I am generalizing. I am an INTJ and I have pretty much only...|||Learn to laugh at the world and yourself.  I used to get angry at the world and people mainly to my teen years. Until you realize just how silly the world and people (including yourself) are. Then...|||Maybe I'm confused by the question, but INTJs analyze the world via extraverted thinking. Then we come to conclusions about it. Morality is no different.  We analyze the world and the morality...|||I think there is some truth to it, but it's not as much of a paradox as it appears.  Here's my theory. Women genuinely want a nice guy. A guy who is in touch with his emotions, is kind,...|||Any type can cheat and ISFJs are not much different. They're a large part of the population and a significant part of the population cheats. Do the math... many ISFJs be cheating :P  They will...|||I think it depends.  I think an ISFJ would be more likely to refuse new music if 1. They just get really comfortable in the routine of the genre. 2. If they've formed a strong identity with the...|||lol.  Me and my wife have the opposite problem. She's an ISFJ and I think she gets her highs off new experiences. I'm an INTJ, and while I like new ideas and what not, I find the experience part...|||yeop. Happens to me all the time. If I'm doing something, things like eating and what not can just be forgotten. Such trivial tasks do not occupy my mind :P  Honestly, I've found myself having to...|||I'm going to say what you describe is probably not primarily type related.  I've noticed this with a lot of men in general be it at the workplace or at home, when they feel they are not listened...|||Hmm, I'm not an MBTI expert, but i think my wife finds a lot of belonging in causes as well as her family tradition of religion/social justice. I think that's a big part of it. She tends to identify...|||I think this is very true. It is both good and bad in my view.  My wife and I tend to have some interesting talks on this. She'll always want 'something done' or believes 'some leader will do...|||Yes, it is an individual thing. For example, based on what you said, you would appear to be an unselfish person.  My main point was that selfishness can be seen in a lot of different ways. The way...|||In terms of selfishness, I personally find all types selfish and that includes the ISFJs. ISFJs for example are very selfish with relationships but tend to be very giving with their time/money....|||Maybe an example from my life would be helpful. I love my wife. But during our relationship, there were various thing that I would weight against if the downsides were worth the life time...|||Every type has cheaters, and INTJs are no different.  Every type can rationalize it to some extent. Some would say it is their feelings. Others will say there's no harm if they're not caught... ...|||We don't know all the details and we can't read what is in his mind. But here are some of my thoughts.  That he said he wants to date an ENFP specifically makes me think he found something lacking...|||Yeah, it's definitely something I do.  I generally have a thick skin and can take just about anything.  On the other hand, if I value someone as really part of my life and they hurt/betray me in...|||I used to get really frustrated with things. I can't pin point when it happened, but I eventually learned to enter what my wife calls Xen state.  I used to get frustrated while driving for example....|||Yeah, I tend to agree with FearAndTrembling. I was really into politics, but eventually I realized that for the most part, it is just like sports teams and cheering for a side. So what is the real...|||I'm a bit weird. I like to have enough money, such that I don't need to think about it.  I don't really spend wildly, but I like to have enough money, such that I don't have to think about what...|||Well I value money to the extent that make sure my needs/wants are met. I like to live a comfortable life (decent size shelter, decent food, electronics...). But it's not about living better than...|||For me at least, the debate on whether or not there is a God or a particular religious text is divine is not one that I tend to argue. It's rather pointless in my view.  Where I do tend to argue is...|||It is definitely hard being a religious INTJ. I used to be Muslim and was raised in a very Islamic household.  The thing is, I don't think being religious and being an INTJ are contradictory. I say...|||Believe it or not, I had a hard time saying no when I was younger... and I'm an INTJ.  I find myself repeating this a lot in these forums, but let's not excuse our faults by saying I'm an ISFJ or...|||It is very complicated.  I think we also have to be careful not to excuse things. In as much as there are 'healthy' version of each type, various issues are issues.  If anyone refuses...|||In my view, adulthood or maturity is about resolving your childhood dependencies.  - being dependent on yourself, not your parents for your money - resolving any childhood issues; typically a...|||The long and short of it is that it is complex.  Different people, different cultures, different values, different individual circumstances...  I believe the thing with guys is that... well.......|||Western philosophy for all its flaws at least tries to question the the ways of life. I come from a mainly Islamic background (albeit agnostic now), and if you look at it's history you see the...|||While I agree about the lack of absolute morality, I think you overstate the subjectiveness of objectiveness. Our 5 senses are important, but we also have observations, rationality, logic, studies,...|||I personally have found that it is best to worry if people can deal with objective facts or objective likely hoods.  You're more likely to have a productive discussion with people and they are much...|||How safe you want to be is up to you.  But good advice is good advice. I personally don't ever get drunk drunk (passing out drunk). I did a few times when I was much younger, but learned not to....|||While I fully get your point and agree that many people do make it sound less like good advice and more like blame, I just have to comment on this one.  I would tell anyone it is good advice not to...|||I personally think a lot of us are not as far from each other's positions as some of these comments make it out to be. What makes this topic so argumentative is the powerful charge of RAPE as a...|||Yes. I certainly don't mean to suggest all people pleasers are narccicists.   It has more to do with the creation of a false self to others and manipulating people.