'Soooooo, after a rather disastrous relationship with a (rather unhealthy) ENTJ this summer, I've found another ENTP.  I've heard this was another absolutely ill-fated pairing, but I like the guy...|||I've never met a male INFJ (or someone that I suspected was an INFJ).  I've met a couple of ENFJs and we've butted heads over competing ideologies / lifestyles.    I like the idea of the INFJ as a...|||What makes you say that?    Though I suspect the same could be said for female ENTPs.  We don't even have the ENTJ I am woman, hear me roar  womanhood trope to follow.|||Ehhhhh I disagree here.  Eventually, two people in a relationship will want to know where it is going and most NTs I know are fine with adding perfunctory titles to a relationship (boyfriend,...|||I don't know if this is true for all men, but for very gender-role driven men (SJs especially) it is pretty much expected.  I know many different kinds of men out there and those who went for a...|||This actually makes a lot of sense.  A lot of my mistakes involving people involved going against my gut/subconscious in order to collect more evidence about a person.  And sometimes we don't have...|||My initial instinct was .10, but then I realized quickly that .10 was the sucker answer since the math didn't add up.  So I just relied on basic algebra:   Bat + Ball = 110;  Bat = Ball + 100;...|||So, like Batman?|||Yeah, you're right. A healthy xSTJ would probably just come across as your crotchety uncle, or something like that.  I don't know.  I don't think I've ever known a healthy xSTJ well enough to type...|||People accuse ENTPs of being the bold part too.  We're accused of being brilliant but lazy underachievers who are happy to surf on your couch and smoke your weed for as long as you'll engage us in...|||Yep.  And it's not this tiger mom ENTJ-type whatever-doesn't-kill-you-makes-you-stronger hypercriticalness either.  ENTJ Tiger Parents want their kids to take over the world one day.  ISTJ parents...|||What do you think drives them, if it's not money, success, accolades, glory, ego etc...?  As for the half who do fit my description, what are they like?       That's interesting...do you think...|||Yep, all this in spades.  While xNTJs may be stubborn about their worldviews, any xNTJ with a smidgen of healthiness will be open to being proved wrong by superior logic, reasoning, or facts.   ...|||This may be just a me thing, but I would never pair with an SJ, especially an xSTJ.  My dad is an ISTJ and he is one of the most abusive, critical, and downright cruel people I have ever met in my...|||Agreed that pretty and ugly people are found all over the Myers Briggs spectrum, but I wanted to control for attractiveness so we're talking about personality here and not appearance.  And there is...|||Oddly enough, I was thinking of this exact thing as I was typing my post.  But more as a joke.    I don't think NT men are selling out, necessarily.  I think there are great people all over the...|||You admit below that masculinity is attractive to females.  Why can't you acknowledge that masculinity is attractive to ALL females, including ones that are more masculine as compared to other...|||Yep.  I find that I can always spot the ENTP because they're the ones who are very smart but have done a bunch of interesting things in their careers.  Sometimes they make a lot of money, sometimes...|||Haha true...I'm just commenting on the seeming reluctance of NT guys (or any guys) to prefer NT girls.   I suppose STs could have the same problems, but STs end up like Blair Waldorf - pretty but...|||Mic drop.  Amazing post.   Especially this, which I think is true: In short, I DO think NTs like us, it's just not a natural occurrence for us to open up in any way, so we end up sort of missing...|||100% absolutely.  Unless the ENTJ was actually a sociopath/psychopath, in which case I'd prefer to just find one on the right side of the line.    I CANNOT deal with male Feelers.  I'm a WASP and...|||Exactly - and that's why I struggle with the notion that a male INFJ is as good for a female ENTP as it would be the other way around, or as an ENTP and an INFJ may go along together in same-sex...|||Gosh darn it, another NF stealing our men!|||It really, really does.  Especially since NTs aren't bad at emotions, or even at opening up in our own way.  We just express emotions very differently than other types, and often in a way which can...|||Yeah, you need a thick skin to roll with NT trash talk.  It's just the way we show endearment to others.  Don't take it personally.  I've said some utterly heinous things to other people in the heat...|||1) Be smart.  I have to respect your intelligence before I can sleep with you.  If I don't respect someone's intelligence, I will think I'm better than he is.  And that's not a good place for a...|||What would you rather do during the holidays?  I would absolutely love it if holidays and other family get-togethers involved high-stakes games of scrabble (or trivial pursuit, or billiards, or...|||That was a great quote about patterns.  I, as an ENTP, see the same patterns.  Although I couldn't care less about bullying (and admit that I'm on the side of the bullies at times, when it serves me)...|||That's exactly it.  I don't trust it because it's illogical.  Also, because as an ENTP, I don't have Fi, or it's pushed so far down that I don't trust it at all when it does rear its ugly head.  When...|||In what ways do you think MTBI affects life goals, tastes in movies/TV shows, religion, political leanings etc?  I find that a lot of NTs share those aforementioned things with me more than other...|||God damn men and their preferences for Fs.  Bah.|||What was disturbingly psychopathological on his part?  He could be incredibly rude and narcissistic at times, but that could describe most of the population of Manhattan.  And as for the washing...|||No need for the sorry!  I actually find that to be a compliment, so I don't really understand the need on your end to apologize, or for the terribly descriptive....  What exactly about my...|||I don't know if languages of love have any correlation with your Myers-Briggs.  For what it's worth, I appreciate touching and cuddling.    I started this thread about a similar phenomenon with...|||I posed a similar question on another thread about male NTs (or ENTJs) and physical contact.  Some people had some interesting answers and you may want to take a look.  I've been dating an ENTJ for...|||All things being equal, I'd prefer to date another NT than any other type.  NTs are highly represented among my closest female friends as well.    I've dated maybe 1 or 2 NFs in my time and after...|||Why would an NFP be more attractive to you than an emotionally mature xNTx?  I'm beginning to wonder if there are any guys out there who put female NTs at the top of the list!|||So, dekkr372 and Alpha_Orionis , if you both describe yourselves as as far from needy as it gets or that you try to be as independent as you can, has that ever hampered your relationships with...|||How do you go about asking someone hey, do you have Aspergers?  He may not even know.  Actually, he's the EXACT type to tell me that there's something wrong with ME and that NOTHING is wrong with...|||I think it depends on the context.  I think when it comes to hetero dating (lots of gender expectations/norms), men get crucified for being sensitive (unless they're, like, John Mayer).    If a guy...|||Why thank you, dear!|||I like your idea of setting that up.  Could also work in his own home, so no one has to shell out for a dinner.  He's being dodgy right now re: plans and I think he knows what's coming so he's...|||So: assuming that both Ts and Fs have the same capacity for both logical reasoning and emotion.....  Maybe communication style is decision-making, but just making the decision as to what/how to...|||I am curious about the point that  ENTPness raises re Ts and Fs with regard to decision-making.  I do agree with him that the T/F divide has a decision-making component, but I wonder what part of it...|||How do you raise issues/talk through problems?  I've done some of this, but always in a very even-keel teachable moment way, i.e. I like a little cuddly time; I'm a girl, we all like a little...|||Then how do you identify a male Feeler? Aside from (1) calling me stupid a bunch of times and (2) talking Jungian theory (which is new to me and all good points), I'd really like to hear you address...|||And thank you all for contributing - I came here thinking that someone might say he's on the spectrum or something like that, or telling me to have a thicker skin when dealing with ENTJs, but...|||I have never once gone with my gut.  I've always just done a cost-benefit analysis and picked what made the most sense even if things just felt wrong.  Whenever I've gone with something that felt...|||Money.  Not yet f*ck-you money, but high-net-worth money.  Also, we want to live and raise any kids we may have in the exact same way, and he's also the first person I've slept with that I don't feel...|||It's so hard for me to listen to gut instinct because it's just not rational.  Like gut instinct is something that my NF girlfriends who go to psychics talk about.    When someone says trust your...'