'Thank you, EAF.  For me, it would be much less gut-wrenching if I could check the Gross misconduct box instead of the Failure to perform box.  Unfortunately, I've never fired someone I didn't...|||There is the cold logic of Thinking.  You say lousy employee.  I say human being who means well and has a family to feed.   Lousy is a gross oversimplification of the real life case, but gross...|||Thank you for restoring a tiny bit of the faith I lost faith in MBTI-ish models.  Assuming you really are INTJ (NiTeFiSe) and I really am INFJ (NiFeTiSe), the radical difference in our reactions to...|||What is worse: the pain or the anticipation?  Suppose that your server had held a gun to your head and demanded that you smash your poor toe into the table leg?  Be sure you break it the first time. ...|||I really ought to stop thinking about how much I hate the task in front of me and get on with it.  Instead, I'm staring into space, sharpening pencils, and composing my first PerC post in months. ...|||That's an insightful question.  Thank you for asking it.  As a human being, I find that emotion gets tangled up with every part of my cognitive makeup.  It's why I frequently experience mirth...|||Porn Stars?  Is that a kind of breakfast cereal?|||INTJs because they're iNTeNSe, especially the young ones before they develop Fi.  But seriously, the model is about cognitive patterns.  I don't think that intensity has anything to do with it.|||Oh, I'm getting so confused.  The more I read this stuff the more it looks like the way most of us see the T/F dichotomy has nothing in common with Jung.   For example, here is what he wrote about...|||Thanks for mentioning me.  Would you believe I've never seen the television show?  I can't comment on the main topic, but I will weigh in on the general question about introverted and extraverted...|||My first logic instructor was an atheist, not your run-of-the-mill God-denier, but the hard-core kind who trembled and frothed at the mouth whenever the subject happened to come up.  That turned out...|||What TTD187 said.  I'm picking up a pretty distinctive vibe from you but I'd rather withhold judgment for a while.    You can pick any one of the three questionnaires and post your answers here. ...|||The FedEx guy must have missed you.|||No.  I'm making a joke -- and commenting on the lemonade that someone must have spiked.|||Is there any logical reasoning or evidence behind your lack of verbs?  If we were all in the same physical location, I'd suggest that there was something in the ventilation system.  What is the...|||By the book (Gifts Differing by Isabel Myers), INTJ and ISTJ differ by more than just one little letter.  They have opposite dominant functions.  Dominant what? you ask.  The psychological model...|||This is my first time walking through someone's 2.0 questionnaire, so it will be an adventure for both of us.  I will attempt to do the same thing I've done with Spades's (1.0?) questionnaire. ...|||Yes, and contrary to popular belief, the libido energy always comes from within and is then directed either outward (extraversion) or back inward (introversion).  Lexicon of Jungian Terms | New...|||Fu-Kim Grand Palace - CLOSED - Midtown - Houston, TX Takefuku - Torrance, CA - Daily Breeze   Truth is stranger than fiction|||I came across Aaron Caycedo-Kimura's INFJ cartoons today.    This one hit a little too close to home:  72414  More here: INFJoe | I'm an INFJ joe amid extroverts, sensors, thinkers, and...|||reckful is a sage (or maybe a soothsayer or very lucky).  I'd like to believe he's a sage.  Today, one of my co-workers whom I have pegged as an ISTJ refused to see what was in front of him and...|||Si in someone else is just a difference that I'm learning to appreciate.   In fact, I can see an ongoing pattern in my professional life where an ISTJ shows up and keeps the trains running on time. ...|||It could leave MBTI enthusiasts with egg on their faces by failing to show any correlation between the test results and the opinions of experts.   It sounds like this outcome would suit you just fine.|||Well, there's this set...       ... and then this one|||In the middle of one of their routines, Lou Costello stopped short and asked Bud Abbott, What page are you on?    It does feel like that around here.  Abbott replied, Nevermind what page I'm...|||If I were a typing robot and had no input other than this test result, I would say you're an INTP (TiNeSiFe).  Why? Because your preference for Ti over Te is clear, but your preference for Ni over Ne...|||Your obsession with this stuff reminds me of myself about six months ago, after an MBTI expert told me that I couldn't possibly be an INTJ because my thinking was introverted.   Ti just won't let...|||nonyaBiznuz, if you're not really an INTP, you do an excellent job of playing one.  For me, the most striking difference between INFJ and INTP isn't warm vs. cold.  It's the attitude of the...|||Sure.  :proud:  This is one of those situations where live, in-person communication would have been so much more effective.   I wasn't offended and I hope you aren't either.  I see it as...|||@Trajan117, I was referring specifically to your characterization of the T/F dichotomy, not to your entire post.    You did a fine job of illustrating Jung's principle that embracing one function...|||There may be some tension here between Jung and the MBTI here, so your answer could depend on which model you're using.  As far as I know, Jung did not use the where you get your energy language or...|||And if you resonate with Trajan117's characterization of the F/T dichotomy, then you're almost certainly a T type.|||Ditto!  The NF Idealist bucket comes from Keirsey's temperament model which is only superficially similar to the MBTI.  By the MBTI, I'm an INFJ.  By Keirsey, I'm an NT Rational.   I'm not on the...|||You don't believe in statistical sampling?  I do share your concern about the perfectly 'typed' part.  I'm becoming increasingly convinced that there are systematic errors in the test results which...|||I may sound like a Jung/MBTI expert in some other threads, but that's only because I did a pretty intensive research project about six months ago.  In reality, I'm still a newbie feeling his way...|||Would you please try Acerbusvenator's http://personalitycafe.com/whats-my-personality-type/145423-questionnaire-2-0-a.html ?  I'd like to try it out.  We'll all learn something.  Post your answers...|||Couldbeworse, check this thead out:  http://personalitycafe.com/cognitive-functions/93074-misconceptions-tertiary-function.html  I'll write about my personal Ti journey a little later, but I...|||Couldbeworse, I appreciate your desire to learn.    Sort of, but it's immediate and primitive, like the orange! in your response to the second picture.    There is no deliberation.  There is no...|||Watch Key Phone , that was the most cogent definition of cognitive function I have seen here.  Thank you.|||Bunnychi3, I'm the one who should apologize.  I still owe you the rest of the response I started three days ago.  I'm going through a stressful time in real life and find it difficult to catch a free...|||Of course you can invent your own model.   You can have 42 functions and arrange them any way you'd like.  If you're interested in applying Jung's model (or some variation like the MBTI), Te and Ti...|||I still don't buy it.  Mind you, I'm not the one who needs to be sold.  Nevertheless, your post about Ni dominance is not about Ni at all.  Ni is an irrational function.  It's a constant stream of...|||I almost left this one hanging.    Remember that cognitive functions are not skills.  Anyone can be good at math, or even enjoy it.   I know an INFP with a Ph.D in chemical engineering who can...|||That's the definition of the word and therefore a tautology like all bachelors are unmarried, and yet it's not obvious. What does that say about us?|||Addendum: I'd also seriously consider ESFJ (FeSiNeTi).   My case for Se was weak, and there was no Ni to be seen.  Maybe the weak Se is actually Si.|||For what it's worth, I haven't reached any kind of conclusion.  drmiller100 may be onto something about a reluctance to jump.  It's certainly true in my case, and I've noticed a tension with my wife...|||drmiller100 reaches conclusions much faster than I do.  l am playing Beat the Clock for much of today but don't want to let this thread hang too longer either.|||Couldbeworse, you're in the neighborhood but I'm afraid you've been contaminated by Internet rubbish.   You've got the cognitive functions mixed up with MBTI/Keirsey stereotypes.   You're far from...|||Excellent response.  It makes a fine entry point into a discussion about the cognitive functions.  It's not just dry theory.  If you understand the functions, you will know more than just your...|||Now you're talking. Since you have done some reading, you probably know that INTP looks like this:  Dominant: introverted thinking (Ti) Auxiliary: extraverted intuition (Ne) Inferior: extraverted...'