'Yes, N's normally aren't going to want to explain all the details that go into a decision/process, but what I mean is that Te really hashes things out out loud - verbally.  It likes the verbal...|||Thanks for this.  It resonates on some level inside me.  I think Fe flattens or smooths out Ti's pointedness.  It helps make Ti digestible to others, applicable, or - as you say - impactful to a...|||Just trying to be real with you (at least in my case).  That's what Ti does, is makes judgments/decisions.  And sometimes, like other judging functions, it over-judges or leaps too far, or too...|||This is why we're admitting that the paralysis is a downside of Ti in this thread.  Maybe Te doesn't have any downsides?|||Yes, this is part of it.  Paralysis by analysis can definitely happen.  All that thinking allows me to understand things in great depth, but many times the manifestation in the outer world (the...|||Curious - what are the different reasons you had in mind?  Different reasons on a scale of altruism?  Or something else?  Interesting take.  I think our aux Ne allows us to think just as big as...|||That's the whole convergent vs. divergent thing.  Ni/Te is all about bringing things together toward a single conclusion/result.  Ne/Ti is all about expanding out into new areas/dimensions.  Our...|||The only person that comes to mind when I think of the terms INTP and war is Abraham Lincoln.    In my estimation, it's not so much that we can't think strategically, it's more the fact that Fe...|||1. Can learn/process at my own pace when alone. 2. Too much back-and-forth dialogue becomes draining after awhile. 3. People are complicated.  Sometimes I just want to go buy a sandwich, rather...|||Analytic philosophy is about solving real world problems in a logical/scientific/empiricist fashion.  So, by definition, analytic philosophy is not an endless debate about nothing.  If it were, it...|||The cold, hard, blunt nature of Ti can be tough to adapt to, I think.  An INFP may not show the Fi until they're fully comfortable around someone.  Same for INTP - once you really get to know them,...|||Like Fi (perhaps), Ti can recharge my batteries (make me feel centered) but it can also be tiresome/grueling.  I've learned over the years to take breaks, get fresh air, share some ideas with...|||I agree with Croaker  I see your undying friendship/care for him as something that is enabling him and his behavior.  What he really needs is someone to show some strength and stand up to him. ...|||Hmmm, I agree with the others that his pushy behavior doesn't really seem like an INTP.  If someone that I liked told me they didn't like me in that way (and that there was basically no chance they...|||Another really valuable thing I learned from someone (forget who said it) on this forum is this:  Feelers see things more holistically, while thinkers tend to compartmentalize things.  So, feelers...|||Yes, I think this is accurate.  There are things that I lack that feelers have in abundance - or extraverts, or sensors, or judgers, or people who grew up on a farm, or on a different continent, etc....|||Ne scans the objective environment and picks up intuitive clues/data, nuances, etc.  Not always concrete data (like the man sneezed - that's Si), but it sort of picks up the hidden meaning of...|||Yeah, I see what you're saying here.  After I posted this, I realized something else.  Ti would be concerned with making a profit too (as you suggest), but I guess the key here is this:  Ti is...|||Te:  My company is a huge success (McDonald's, Subway, Papa John's, Ford, Wal-Mart, insert just about whatever massive company you want). Ti:  Well, yes, it's successful in some aspects, but not in...|||Yes, I've noticed this too.  They surprise you sometimes with how much logical explanation they need. It's like you have to convince Te that you know what you're talking about.  A lot of times I'll...|||Its likely not the straightforwardness that make people think INTJs are scheming. Its the Ni plotting going on under the surface. Because its done kind of quietly/discretely, it can make people feel...|||LOL.  I feel ya.  But...help with professional development and all that good stuff...|||To let in the objective information/data more often.  Be more receptive to it.  Feedback from others, from the world, from the workplace, etc.  Also, be willing to express the subjective to others...|||Slightly?  The more I hang with ENTPs the more I realize the difference is significant.  My ENTP friend worries about NOTHING.  EVER.|||You state it well.  Ti, in and of itself, says, The subjective experience matters.  That's to say, the subjective experience plays into the logic of a situation.  I discussed your post with an...|||My Fe compels me to want to help them understand where I think they've gone wrong in their thinking.  I've actually burned bridges this way because not everyone wants a logical explanation of why...|||INTP here.  2 things come to mind as I read this thread:  1. As much as my logical side hates to admit it, I've learned in recent months/years that the non-logical stuff (the soft skills as they...|||Thanks for all of this.  Your post and others and helped me to realize that I had some misconceptions about what it means to be So.  Also makes it seem less daunting to make connections in a way...|||If I worked at McDonald's amongst 25 other red-shirts, I'd be the guy volunteering to go outside and hose down the drive-thru, take out the trash, clean the windows, etc.  Say hi to the Type 5 Sx/Sp...|||Yes.  Yes!  That's exactly what happens.  You can't have friends without.............HAVING FRIENDS!!!!!  :laughing:     I see.  Well, that always seemed very half-baked and diluted to me, but I...|||I just realized after I wrote the post above that the reason I probably feel they just want warm bodies at the party (and not me in particular), is because they don't really seem all that...|||Redeem myself.  OK, that got a chuckle out of me.  It seems a bit performance-based, but I won't hold that against you.  All friendships need some level of tangible performance/action to be...|||Self improvement.  I see people with certain skill sets that benefit them and that have good aspects to them (socially), so I want to learn more.  I may not desire to be a pro at these skill sets,...|||^Thanks for your perspective.    I get that, being a 5, I'm leaning very far to one end of the spectrum (my viewpoint comes with a certain bias).  I will say, however, that many So's have very vast...|||Perfect.  So, if the INTP keeps rambling, the INTJ will try to interrupt, INTP will keep going and not give up.  Since the INTJ is not being heard, they can disappear and detach from the unproductive...|||Hoping to understand the So's out there better.  I often feel like I can't keep up with it (the whole So vibe that penetrates so much of social life) in the work place, family life, etc.  In an...|||I've been involved with a few (family, friends, loved ones).  Dated one for 2-3 years, in fact.  They're delightful.  But, to all J's in the world:   Do not try to control me, my actions, or my...|||Would love to hear your thoughts on the pros and cons of working in academia vs. industry. Why you would or would not want to be in academia, horror stories, things you love/hate about either arena,...|||I think there's something to be said for learning by experience.  I think we need both kinds of learning.  There's an over-reliance on classroom education (aka, schooling) in the more developed...|||I had this exact discussion recently with an INTJ.  Nagging me that I don't express my inner thoughts more often or more clearly.  I tried to explain that it's difficult to adequately express...|||I'm not an INFP, but close enough to relate.  I struggled with a lot of this stuff myself and, at times, it's still a daily struggle.  Went to CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy), etc.  As a big...|||To lay in bed all day and not move - not much effort.  To get up, get dressed, eat, turn on the TV, go to a job, have friends, (basically, live life) etc...it all requires effort|||I have a tenant-landlord relationship.  I had to remove some things from my balcony.  I was denied the right to paint the walls - even if I agreed to repaint them to their original color upon moving...|||In general terms, everyday conversation, I see nothing wrong with the general meat of her statement:  Relationships take effort and compromise. If someone wants a relationship shouldnt they be...|||I see no real violations of logic in your post.  Maybe INTPs, or INTP(s) that you know in your life, aren't quite as logical as most people may think (i.e., maybe they/we are actually human).  Maybe...|||I have (and currently do) worked with several ENTJs. Love them and usually respect them and their abilities. There is one thing that really drives me up a wall, however. They will run you ragged....|||I spoke to an INTJ today about this.    Me: Remember how I told you that I think you're kind of controlling and sometimes concern yourself too much in other people's business? INTJ: Yeah. Me: ...|||Check out posts #9, #18, and #65 of this thread:  http://personalitycafe.com/intp-forum-thinkers/254297-what-do-you-do-living-2.html|||devoid  I read your post twice, and I'm still a bit confused as to what exactly you're attempting to do.  The 2nd paragraph in particular is confusing to me because of the three different parties...|||This is something I considered some time ago.    *Is the money good enough to work 6-9 months per year long-term?  Or just a way to kind of take some time off in the short term?  I've heard it's...'