'There may be a point to that, as recall, extraverted functions are also considered “conscious” while introverted functions are “unconscious” Conscious/unconscious likewise refers to S/N. Extraverted...|||Should point out that S as “spatial” awareness differs from what's called “visual and spatial logic”, which is connected with the “right brain” of the “P” preference (PeJi), and is mentioned in...|||The attitude of the function is not so much about sharing or not. Te will end up seeming to be imposed on the outside word because it's about the environment (and they'll often say whether you...|||The extraverted function deals in the “environment”, and the introverted function is filtered through the “individual”. Thinking deals in the impersonal (mechanical) assessment of “how things work”...|||Growing up with the old Archies, before a virtual reboot beginning in the late 80's, some of the characters were notably different depending on the different artists. Betty and Veronica were very...|||Pretty good!  Some thoughts on various points:  Pretty trivial, but I use right/wrong as the neutral for either T or F. If you put down a false answer on a test, then it gets marked what else...|||The stack is based on complexes. The products of functions are present at any time (e.g. we can always see, touch, remember, etc.) but the differentiated forms (which are what the stack is about)...|||In five temperament theory, the Phlegmatic with his calm disposition is said to be the best at handling the Choleric. The ENTJ is the purest Choleric, and most INTP's are Phlegmatic-Choleric. The...|||(Got these backwards, in the rush whenever I was posting this. :blushed:For an extravert, all the extraverted functions would be carried by the hero, tertiary, Senex and demonic personality, and for...|||It doesn't work this way. These are not gears, where it's a matter of using one or the other (so what happens if you use this particular combination of them?). The products of all eight...|||I think it will work is both parties are mature, where they are ready to have their dominant perspectives contradicted, and it can be a disaster if they are not mature and not willing to grow,...|||I came up with the theories on that page of how type and temperament correspond, but yes, that's my page.|||Wow; that's so interesting! While dopamine is I believe what's said to be what stimulates introversion and extraversion (which is the old factor of expressiveness), I had been thinking that...|||Yes, N would cover deeper meaning, while S was simply the aesthetic of it.  I had never mentioned Kant as far as creative tendency; just perception of beauty. (This site:...|||A mature Fi sometimes does end up in practice being meek and submissive, because it tries to accommodate others (the difference from Fe is that Fe goes by what the others want directly, while Fi...|||Beebe's new book reveals that the Demonic Personality Complex “is an image of undermining pathological narcissism, which would further explain his so-called Fe-use as a Te dom. in terms of what...|||The thing is, is that this isn't working. You see the code briefly flash, and then it becomes the formatted text again.|||Is Shockwave what causes the problem, or are you saying removing it causes the problem? (I don't seem to have it now, but I'm not sure).|||It defaults to the WYSIWYG editor, and it's hard to even switch it to source mode.  This is with Chrome on Windows 10. Is there a problem with that system? It was also hard to reply with quote or...|||Don't know if this one's been discussed, and I just spend so much time trying to edit a post (and another one, last week sometime), that I don't have time to look through this thread.  But this...|||Classic temperament was originally based on expressiveness and responsiveness (as I think you realize). Perception scales were altogether different, and managed to pair together the opposites. Kant...|||Wow, where did you get that term from? Googling it, all I can find on it are your post in the ENFJ counterpart to this thread, and your TV Tropes post. (I have a whole story regarding that, here:...|||Wow; I've been discussing this for years, and never noticed that there were these separate quiz result discussions for several types.  But the theory is, that classic temperament blend maps...|||even though you have unknown' for type, I see for Socionics you have ILE, which is ENTP, so the type fits too.   It's really: SJ: Melancholic NF: Phlegmatic (or fifth temperament, Supine, which...|||You might be Melancholy-Supine, then. Supine is a fifth temperament...|||Probably Melancholy (from the SJ).|||Since those function positions are all determined by ego-states (archetypal complexes), then it depends on the constellation of the Puer, which is the tertiary archetype.  The Hero, which is the...|||Considering that the function stack is determined by the typ'e ego-states (archetypal complexes), I would say the Ni-Ti would not come out like that for an INFJ. Ti is tertiary or the child, and it...|||That still isn't necessarily F. For one thing, what I meant by goal is that this was what the faux-feeling was based on, rather than the other way around. That the whole best for Germany was...|||F is emotional instability? (Also, based on people is something that can easily be feigned. Looked to me that he was ultimately based on goals/tasks/objects [i.e. impersonal], the way he carried...|||I go by classic temperament, and a Choleric can do all those things (be personable, etc. part of which is the E) , but it's a tactic with a goal in mind (especially when the person is unhealthy)....|||And stuff like the caring about the people of the nation I mentioned, are the so-called cues people go by. But what I'm saying, is that they are not necessarily cues, and anyway, Fe use treats...|||If it seemed like a twisted NF fantasy, that's more evidence that it was not his real temperament, but a shallow mimicry. That stuff isn't necessarily NF anyway, but probably just N in general. ...|||When I said good cause, I was appealing to others' arguments, about how he was just caring about the people of the nation or trying to bring unity, or whatever. Those sound like F motivations,...|||To me, it's not simply being a villain; it's the impersonal goal orientation that defines T.  So he was impersonal, which seems T, and yet he appealed to personal/interpersonal concerns, which...|||F is not lack of emotional stability. If anything, since the F perspective pays more attenion to emotions, and T is the one that might try to suppress them, T's are the ones for whom it might erupt,...|||If an NFP gets Melancholy in a four temperament test, then perhaps the fifth temperament, Supine? Temperament: Supine In Inclusion (which looks like Melancholy in being very reserved, but would be...|||Interesting take on it.  For S's, it works that way. For N's, it's I/E + J/P (replace F with P, and T with J).|||Sanguine is social on the affective level (Interaction Styles; Get Things Going: ESF/ENP), but SJ/SP is conative, and not about social skills. So when you read about SJ social needs, you have to...|||Again, there's no such thing as no thinker would.... These are divisions of reality that are present in everyone, and every Thinker has a suppressed Feeling side that [all the more] comes up...|||You really cannot go by would not have said. Anyone can say anything. Everyone has both Thinking (correct/incorrect) and Feeling (like/dislike) capabilities, for both views are implicit in every...|||To me, it's not about being a hardened, by the book military type; it's being so fundamentally IMpersonal, in regarding people as objects to be destroyed. So then all the apparent personal...|||It's a very similar combination. The two pairs of types have the same TeFi cognitive arms, and differ only in the perceptive (irrational) spines. They also have the same Interactions Styles (Chart...|||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glQoT-Q8d_o|||John Beebe himself said he was an Si dom. (with demonic Ni), though I haven't seen where he elaborates why (and what the aux is. I wonder if he would say Fe, putting ISFJ on the table.some out there...|||For ENFJ, x93Cholericx94 is the Interaction Style (also known as x93In Chargex94 or x93Initiatorx94), and represented by the E and [N]J part. This is basically the x93social stylex94 you present on the surface. ...|||What I'm finding, is the best way to begin is to have a simpler description of what exactly the functions are, to begin with. Here I've recently discussed this for all the functions...|||People are going by surface behaviors such as he was a loner, he was irrational he had/used feelings and he was friendly. This does not equal I or F! At least, not any conscious variation. He...|||I believe it's really dom. Te looking for efficiency (which includes posing as an Fe/Ti type for the whole image), and this would be backed up by an oppositional Ti; and even spoke of Te becoming...|||No; it wasn't an INTP; both the person I'm thinking of, and the person she's referring to claim INFJ (at this point, not sure if it's the same person). The politics (at least of the person I'm...'