'No, it is just conceding that however I choose to understand reality is always going to be a work in process.|||I think its more: I can't discard something as unliked until I know I don't like it. So it is easier to identify what I like by eliminating everything else and seeing what is left.|||Learning how to tone it down.|||I already do this, which is one of the reasons I'm so intent on learning what, and why, other people believe. So I can either incorporate into mine, or discard it.|||I just don't see why anyone would choose to think they had no point, that their existence was meaningless.  Don't take this the wrong way, but this seems like a defense mechanism to justify not...|||I have considered your argument and decided I will stand firm on my original position.|||Well, yes. That is how I approach anything. Process of elimination.|||Why would you respond to me on this, if it is my choice to make?|||I suppose I do make a choice. I choose not to accept a reality in which we have no purpose or are not important.  Maybe the process I'm going through is finding everything I don't accept, and by...|||But I am happy. Do you know how fun this thread has been for me? I get such a big smile on my face reading all the responses. Discussion like this just scratches an itch that I can't reach on my own....|||By break I mean that I put them in a funk where they question everything they believe, where before they were content and happy (or so they claim) with their place in, and understanding of, the...|||Because once it becomes an issue of faith or belief, we have to make a choice.  How then, do we make the correct choice? Some in this thread say introspection, but I cannot trust that. I am a...|||No, its not about me. But I cannot deny responsibility for my actions. Especially understanding how impressionable children are.  Believe it or not, I want them to NOT end up like me.|||Which is the sign of greater intellect, having answers, or asking questions to which there are no answers?  I'll have to think about that, I'm not sure I have an answer right now.|||You did so in a manner that rendered any response to that particular post as invalid. You could label anything I said as denial. If you would prefer to re-phrase it I would willingly address your...|||Its not a switch I can flip, I can't just decide to change or be different. I would hope you of all people would understand that.|||Perhaps. I'm happy you have found a box to place me in, maybe you will get some sleep tonight.  (I notice you never responded to my take on introspection.)|||Not ever built furniture, but there are comparable activities.  Yes, I do these things and enjoy them. But like I said, even in these things, my mind never stops spinning. Ever.  Example, when...|||Oh? Why do you say this?|||It was not a metaphor.|||I'm not denying value, I'm just asking why.  Can't help it, just who I am.|||But you blow hot wind, and my intellect lets me soar.|||You are the wind beneath my wings.|||I have not ignored any of your posts, I simply have not responded to all of them.  You seem intent on pushing your own personal philosophy, one I have little interest in. I told you I do not accept...|||Post 16. That you did not read this makes me suspicious.|||When did I ever claim that? Are you going to explain yourself or not?|||Because I broke mine. We went over this.|||Come again?|||Nope, I'm afraid not.  Are you going to label all of the pain, hate, and violence obviously a part of human nature as childhood issues?|||*chuckle*  I wish it was that simple.|||Provide me a system for understanding reality that does not require faith in something at a fundamental level and I will willingly admit I am completely wrong.  But you and I both know you can't.|||I apologize for appearing to ignore you, it is not my intent.  I have several hobbies that I do drain dry, and very much enjoy participating with others. But my mind never shuts off, even when...|||On introspection:  When I seriously turned my gaze inwards years ago, all I saw was blackness. I could no longer deny my nature, I was forced to accept what is inside me. I understood on a...|||All you have stated is that lack of introspection is my problem. The only argument you have made for why this is a problem, is that others have made the same observation.  Do you expect me to...|||But talking to myself got old a long time ago!  *sigh*|||Two possible reasons I guess:  1) I truly do know everything, and enjoy taunting the unwashed masses  or  2) I am actually trying to learn something, but my rapier wit and scintillating charm...|||This is not my folly.  /thread  Cute, but ultimately futile.  If such insight is all this place has to offer, I'm wasting my time here.  If, on the other hand, you would like to explain why...|||As with all things, my motivation is curiosity. I have a consuming desire to know, to seek understanding. What better place than a forum full of people similar to myself?  Introspection is...|||Ah, yeah. I see the misunderstanding. I apologize. What I meant with that initial statement is that I don't do this with just everyone. Someone has to show a propensity or desire for deeper...|||No, I do not agree. Although it takes much effort and understanding to come to a true objective understanding of anything with another person, it is possible. When it happens it is glorious, almost...|||If we cannot objectively identify a remarkable person, I must conclude that remarkable people do not exist. Thus, you have no foundation from which to disagree with anyone who may make such a...|||I'm confused though, all I see is two men. Skin color black (ish), one small and frail, another a fine physical specimen. By what standards do you judge either of them remarkable, and why?|||Remarkable: worthy of being or likely to be noticed especially as being uncommon or extraordinary.  So lets stand Gandhi next to Usain Bolt. Which of them is remarkable?|||I KNOW I'm looking for something that is unknowable dang it. I just don't know how to let go of it.  How do you let go of it? How do other INTJ's just shrug their shoulders and content themselves...|||That you would advise me to do these things amuses me.  Been there, done that.|||If morality (right and wrong) exists, it has nothing to do with society.  If it is merely a sense of what is acceptable to society, it becomes subjective, and is no longer an issue of what is right...|||I thought everything could be understood and explained using logic and reasoning. That anything I did not understand I had simply not approached from the right angle, or learned enough about.  Then...|||Morality only makes any sense if we are judging an action, or choice, as being right or wrong. Subjective morality makes no sense, because what is right for me, may be wrong for someone else, who...|||I play golf to free my mind from the tyranny of petty things.|||Breaking INTJ's is actually easier than any other type of person, because I know our weaknesses. All you have to do is demonstrate that reason and logic is fundamentally flawed, only useful as a tool...'