Huh?  Maybe try to explain your choice?  Why fives should be poor in spirit, why should seven mourn? And so on... Nope, I can't see any relation.|||I think I have balanced wings. I don't feel particular influences from them.|||And it looks like your sense of loyalty is similar to mine. I guess it may be more of a personal thing, maybe a matter of growing up. I actually was taught about loyalty as a child, as well as other...|||I wonder... I have kinda similar approach to envy. Compared to many  people, I seem to not be so envious. I rarely feel very oriented envy, I think I  rather envy more general things, like luck....|||I'm not shy, I'm just not very social. I know it i.e. because I tried that kind of exercise - and I can do that, it's just I don't find it interesting nor particularly rewarding. However there are...|||I'm not sure how to understand avarice in context of enneagram. I have tendency to be possessive about people, but I know it for long, long time, since childhood, and I always keep it in mind and try...|||Maybe all healthy types are loyal. That's why judging by own experience is tricky.  Hm, I don't think so... Loyal to knowledge? Adventures? You can't be loyal to knowledge. I think loyalty applies...|||What you write about 6 and 8 sounds pretty convincing. In fact I often  feel mistrust towards sixes and while I don't find 8s more attractive, I  would be probably more likely to trust an 8's...|||Depends on their type... sometimes you know they act like that out of malice. Actually I don't expect everybody to act like an INTP, especially not people I know, who aren't INTP.  There's a huge...|||Ok, thanks for stating so clearly what transcendence you were talking about. What I had in mind was more spiritual meaning of it, so it turns out we probably talked about two different things.   ...|||That actually sounds pretty similar to what I think about illusion, just I don't feel like trying to explore it with psychoactive substances.   Maybe my idea is fluffy, probably because it's so...|||I just tried to explain, in relation to the thread topic, why I agree with attitude 'I don't want to be connect with the universe' etc. and at the same time use enneagram. I was asked whether I...|||This argument about having to try everything to be able to have opinion about it is quite weak, in my opinion. There are a lot of substances or states that make people feel like they experience...|||I believe they are just effects of brain acting weird. Just because somebody experiences amazing and moving feelings doesn't mean they are transpersonal. As far as I know, things like joining minds...|||Yeah, I agree with you. I have similar feelings and I wrote about them similar times around the forums, once even getting into an argument :rolleyes:  I just don't like mysticism at all. I'm an...|||We can't be sure if these people really are 5w6 or even 5. Famous people who have anything to do with widely understood 'smartness' are often typed as 5.|||I don't recommend following the charts. You may try on various colours, so called self-draping. It's not as hard as it may seem, you just need good light and patience. If you do it at home you may do...|||Yes, it is. Any type can have dark hair and brown eyes.  Soft summer looks best in muted colours that are close to neutral, but more on cool side. Bright, pure colours (including stark white and...|||Yeah, but I have tendency to feel like that about everyone - friends, family, etc. Of course I'm not a small child, so I can see it and correct it. Also I dislike clinginess myself, so I'm not happy...|||Yep, people may see as as very argumentative, smug, negative or shy, depending on their own issues.  People unsure of their position, competitive - most likely to see standing by our opinion,...|||Eh, I think I may be Sp/Sx then and I dislike that tendency. :(|||You probably never got real interest in clothing, because if you had, you would know all differences. :) We INTP just have that quality and I think that's why some of us are careful about clothing...|||Black is really flattering and natural for Winters and also for Bright Springs, though they look better in slightly softer black or contrasting patterns including black (like black and red, black and...|||Really the best way is for you to try on different colours, in good lighting, without make up and observe how each colour affect your appearance. The most flattering colours that make you appear...|||Are they too bright or maybe too cool?  Take a look at this palette, it's better: http://pinterest.com/pin/211880357438467284/|||I'd say it's more about realising that though in general we don't care about opinion about us, there are some instances when we do, for example: -when having a bad reputation can be harmful to us...|||Strange definition of normal... People in general tend to do fashionable things, you just need to find people who generally like similar things as you do.  As for facebook, remember that people...|||Clear Springs are the only Springs who look really good in black.   My friend is a Clear Spring and her mum has been dressing her in black and red since she was a little child ^^   Most people...|||Often people who look good in most colours are Brights or just young and good looking :)  What you should do is DYI colour analysis, using various textiles you have at home instead of drapings -...|||If deep, deep black and stark white are your colours then you are a winter, if not then it's autumn. Sometimes it's very hard to distinguish between sister types, but matching colours should tell....|||Hm... Maybe I misunderstood it, but I'm not really that focused on my interests, in fact I have random interests, I've never had a real hobby and I'm annoyed when people ask me about it... If...|||Fives understand. :pats back:|||Agreed. At least in modern Western society INTP is rather stereotyped as nerd or asocial, in best case 'kinda weird but nice once you get to know him'. I admit that in some environments INTP...|||I don't think in leagues. I've read that mentally healthy people tend to overestimate their looks, intelligence etc. so that most people think they are somewhat above average) ;) I guess in my case...|||Somehow it reminds me of clothing in Star Trek: The Next Generation...|||Oh no, we actually give a lot of signs, but not everyone bothers to see  them, they are probably too subtle and are only visible to those who  really watch for them. Remember that every type...|||Or having a boring life. Which actually doesn't mean to be bored all the time, around the clock, just being bored pretty often. For example, if person is for some reason stuck in an environment...|||Dunno, I'm not that different irl than online, except that online I put more effort into being clear and delicate, as lack of non-verbal communication creates a lot of misunderstanding. I don't think...|||Ha, than we have opposite views, as I see tan as somewhat unnatural, an 'added' colour, and untanned as 'real' colour.  Of course I don't think of using some harsh means to make skin lighter than...|||Yeah, that's what I was talking about - lightening skin actually makes it look better... Just it is lightening as keeping it on lightest natural level, not going lighter than one is, as some people...|||To a Chinese? Insanely difficult, as far as I know.|||That's how it works, it's how racism affected people's thinking. Theirs is aesthetic choice, yours are racial issues.   From a purely cosmetological point of view, lightening skin as much as...|||Oh this. I don't see is a monologue. Rather as an observational skill. I'm sometimes surprised that people let themselves show some stuff by body language or babbling and I wonder if they realise how...|||I don't. But I replay stuff or plan. I kinda exercise things I could say. I also can replay songs instead of listening to them. If course I do it when I'm not focused on anything particular, like...|||Perceiving irony in oneself, having distance to oneself.|||If you keep having disturbing dreams and feel alert there may be actually something bad going on - maybe you just don't want to acknowledge it?    Also, some conditions may result in changes in...|||It seems you already did a good job by defining your problems and planning to deal with them. Continue to aim to be your old self. Though it may not be exactly as your childhood self, as we grow up...|||I agree.  I usually don't look into eyes of strangers, but sometimes I get impression that people try to pin me down with their stare, I read it as a signal they want me to stare back, so that's...|||I'm afraid you just have to bear it until you grow up and become independent.|||Yes, but legacy of racism make people assume that the sense of inferiority is the reason.  For example Asians are very often accused by Western media of trying to look more Western, to worship...