'Tiles!|||(For clarification for everyone else, we posted Poems and Poets at the same time... and I immediately changed mine to keep up, but it was originally Spell.)  Still!|||Poets! :D  (Formerly Spell)|||Stops.|||Um... no?  I prefer movies and characters that are actually entertaining, not to mention that everything about Harley Quinn is offensive to me. :dry:|||Tired.|||Inferior Se is usually stereotyped as being clumsiness--but that fails to recognize that anyone can be clumsy, and if anything it's just correlated with bad Se, not necessarily an inferior function....|||Warps.|||Claws. :kitteh:|||Puppy. :tongue:|||Pupil.|||Sure!  Inferior Se: results in serious anxiety about the unpredictability of the universe. The INxJ may begin to become entirely unconcerned with facts or experiencing anything firsthand. This...|||:crazy:  718722 718754 718762|||Lived.|||River.|||EllieBird  Did you see my post outlining the inferior behavior of certain types? That's an important consideration, and it may also be useful for you to look into inferior Se.  Also, you can...|||Madly.|||Even though I'm not the one you were responding to, this is my favorite cognitive functions test. :)  Make sure to post your results for us!|||EllieBird  Sorry for the non-response, I've been very busy today and still don't have time to fully elaborate. I promise I'll get to it, though!!  Only you'll be able to tell for sure what your...|||Based on your posts in this thread, I would absolutely say ISFJ. Please give it another thought! I think your initial instincts were spot on here.  Is it possible that your SiFe is finding things...|||Badly. :D|||There's also the factor of the 4w5 bringing in a head-centric wing. It's just like how 2w1s are more moralizing than the other heart types (at least in my experience), because the gut center is...|||Yes, exactly this!!|||They would undoubtedly be more in touch with their inferior Fi than most ESTJs, and that would fuel their 4 identity. I assume that (like all of the ESTJs I know) this would manifest in a serious...|||Actually, the traditional 4 traits are very androgynous. Throughout much of human history and Western civilization especially, it has just not been culturally acceptable for women to reject tradition...|||Many of my friends are different flavors of 6. However, I could never picture myself with anyone of this type romantically. Like many 4s, I have an embarrassing preference for 8s. :blushed:|||I used to have the opposite problem--I thought I was a 4w3, and there are many posts around these forums where I discussed being a 4w3 at length. I realized very suddenly last year that I am in...|||Did I break the game??? :shocked:|||I love museums so much that I double-majored in Classical Civilization (Greece, Rome, etc.) and Art History in college. :D|||Eerie. :D|||Quite the contrary, actually. :wink:  https://s26.postimg.org/o38j4mteh/IMG_1879.jpg|||Since I'm already in the Halloween spirit (does it ever really leave, though?), here's throughtheroses at age 3.   https://s26.postimg.org/k051ywxg9/witchy.jpg  And here I am today... Good...|||:hugs:|||My two brothers and I all have ADHD--and we all have 7 as our first or second type. I'm a 479, my first brother is a 739, and my second brother is a 972. (And I know this isn't about the Enneagram,...|||I still type Snape as an INTP.   Since the discussion is about inferior behavior, entertain the possibility of inferior Fe. His problem over and over again is that he (in a pinch) blindly defers to...|||INFP, 4w5, etc. House: Slytherin Wand: Ebony wood with a Dragon heartstring core, 11 ½, and surprisingly swishy flexibility Patronus: Calico cat Ilvermorny: Thunderbird|||Messy hair, don't care. :crazy:  https://s1.postimg.org/gp7qb3jsf/me_4.jpg|||Any type can lie. That's like saying that only ISTJs pay their taxes or something.|||There's definitely a parallel. I didn't even understand Ti until I realized that it's just as personal and strong as Fi. It's just a matter of morality and ethics vs. logic and philosophy, really. ...|||The only absolute thing about Fi is that the person believes in it. It can be conditional, hypocritical, selfish, riddled with double-standards, etc., as long as the individual is completely sold on...|||LoveDragonDon  tanstaafl28  That looks exactly like my ESTJ father's desk at work--actually, my dad's is messier. (He has untreated ADHD, though, which may impact things.) He has a lot on his mind...|||I quoted exactly what I took issue with.    Te is about efficiency and action. Reasoning is Ti.   Te doesn't need to justify itself. It goes hand in hand with Fi--basically, they operate under...|||Wow, that is NOT how Fe and Fi work.   Think about the feeling functions as a moral complex. Inside vs outside are not useful in the way you imagine them, because everyone on this planet...|||Trump is so Te. Anything that seems like Fe is just his babyish inferior Fi. He's so incredibly selfish--just because he appeals (on purpose) to a conservative Christian Fe voter base doesn't mean he...|||I take back everything I've written on this subject. Donald Trump is, without question, a counter-phobic 6w7 and an ESTJ. Case closed.|||iNdependent  Thank you for that long and detailed post! I am indeed going to graduate this summer, so I'll only have to deal with her for this last semester of mine.   As for my dynamic with...|||BelladonnaPoe  Excellent additions. I didn't want to ramble on for too long in my original post. :D  ---  So, it seems that the consensus is that Esther is an unhealthy ESTP.   Does anyone...|||I've begun to suspect that she's an xSTP, and I'm glad that you see it as well! :) Thanks for the response.|||ENFJ may be it. That would explain her hedonism (tertiary Se and all). The only thing is that it's difficult to imagine her as an intuitive. She hates thinking and needs to have everything spelled...|||I have ADHD myself, although I'll admit that I have a shaky understanding of Asperger's. She does have a psychiatrist that she sees weekly.  Also, she has nothing remotely resembling Ne (unless it...'