'Candy Apple: Thanks for your detailed response. There's a lot to unpack there and, like I said, I'm not really able to right now unfortunately.  Ultimately I 100% agree with you that the...|||Hmmm I think when descriptors (which are often not that reliable btw) say that N is future-oriented they mean it more in the sense that N is interested in abstract possibilities and potential which...|||Or just share your creative writing process please! I want to have my eyes opened to the world of Ne-Si creativity!|||Candy Apple thoughtcatalog  This Spades questionnaire yall are talking about sounds useful, but to me the picture approach seems a little biased towards sensing. If someone shows me a picture and...|||DOGSOUP: I see your point, it's definitely tricky to suss out. But I feel like tying it back to a relationship with God is an interpretation that's fairly concept heavy (unless the person in...|||It's both lol I agree when you say that the inferior function isn't shitty but I still think we have way less control over it than our dominant and that many times when we think we're actively...|||DOGSOUP: I agreed very much with the OP but the example you gave with Madonna didn't really click. I would think that someone with Fi-Pe would be very good at taking in the song as is (as the writer...|||Another thing, and I know I'm gonna get a lot of cocked heads from this, but I don't really think it makes sense to talk about using all 8 functions.  I think that if each of the 4 base functions...|||Candy Apple: When it comes to inferior and tertiary functions, I'm of the opinion that they affect our behavior in many ways we don't want to consciously acknowledge owing to the fact that they're a...|||So, full disclosure, the main reason I'm writing this is that I'm an INFJ, I love the lyrics of Michael Stipe (REM), Anthony Kiedis (RHCP), Kurt Cobain (Nirvana) and many others who are almost always...|||To tie it all back to the OP though,  I'd say dominant Ni manifests as an incessant reflection on a handful of core concepts. A lot of it has to do with the intention/end goal implicit in my...|||charlie.elliot: I kind of think the functions are confusing at all levels tbh. The dominant is hard to identify because you're so fully immersed in it, the aux can be under-developed supposedly due...|||Try using bulletpoints, condensing it, and organizing it thematically. There's a lot of thoughts leading to next thoughts leading to stories, which can get a little confusing.  Honestly though,...|||Turi: Thanks for going in to such detail with your response. It all definitely fits and the thought processes you described resonated. What you said about tertiatry functions being something we're...|||Tridentus: I like it! And I agree with almost everything. I would only say that Ti (and Fi in a sense) are in fact looking for THE truth as well and Ti especiaaly may not be fully aware of the...|||As I'm sure most people here do, I often question my type. I've gone through identifying as INTJ, INTP, and finally settled on INFJ (I hope!). But just to clarify, I'm going to lay out what I see as...|||dragonhead66: I don't think anyone is arguing that thoughts and behavior are not correlated. There is obviously a relationship there. The problem is that there are a lot of confounding elements that...|||This is an interesting thread and I feel like I should read this book.  I agree with DOGSOUP though that inferior functions don't only come out in times of stress. I personally think they're a...|||Looking for the meaning of a song doesn't strike me as something you can associate with any one function. I'm sure people of all types do that and there are many different ways to go about it. ...|||Bhathaway: Our experiences are eerily similar!   Cupcake Angel: I relate to most of that, but only when I'm taking my music really seriously! :p|||I'm an INFJ, but this rings true with my Si friends and what I know of Si from a theoretical standpoint.  When I'm listening to music I tend to drift a lot in my thinking. Some of the common...|||Looking at it as perceiver vs. judger is not always helpful in my view because basic definitions of these rely far too much on behavior (which is conditioned and situational) rather than cognition. ...|||After 18 pages of this thread I'm convinced of a few things:  There is no single consistent definition of intuition or the Ni and Ne functions that people can agree on.   A lot of posters are...|||inregardstomyself: I agree, but I can't reeally get behind what Benty Fagatronicus (I just spelled out that hateful pseudonym with utter disgust) said about mbti not being suited to individuality. ...|||People are not like ice cream; each person is quite unique. People of the same mbti type can have a wide diversity of behaviours, interests, outlooks... Being an ISFJ just means that (apparently)...|||No type is better than any other. It's also normal to find the personality type represented by your inferior functions to be highly desirable, especially when you're down and your self-confidence is...|||goamare: I see you're more interested in proving your point and asserting your superior intelligence than you are in having a constructive discussion, which, on my end, makes me feel like most of my...|||Dust Mite: You mentioned memory: all functions have their own way of making use of memory, it's not specific to Si (though Si-doms may appear to others to have good memory). Si is more about...|||There is barely any correlation between IQ and the N/S dichotomy and, in my view, most such studies are not reliable. Add to that the fact that IQ-tests are very-much tailored to abstract thinking...|||goamare: I'm actually only in disagreement with you on the details, but you could try to strike a less arrogant and confrontational tone and you'd find we'd be able to have a more constructive...|||Agreed, Ti-Ne is a very different thought process than Si-Fe.  INTP looks like: I want to understand the world better, let's explore different ideas  ISFJ looks like: I value and want to...|||Cupcake Angel: For a good year or so I was convinced that I was an INTP. I've also noticed since then that there are a lot of INFJs who first identify as INTPs. I have my guesses about why this is,...|||goamare: That's one opinion. What I would say to you is that Karl Jung and Isabel Myers-Briggs based the entire theory on cognitive functions and the relationships between them. If you reject that,...|||Hey!   First off, I think that's a totally normal experience you're going through. Not just for infps but for everyone!  Also, the first thing to recognize is that you won't be able to actively...|||Yeah, it's hard to tell for sure from an example like this, because it's something we can all relate to to a degree and we don't really get a good look at your thought process.  That said, I'm...|||I agree with both those posts, except that I would recommend you be careful around descriptions of INTJs Fi-Te combination as it is often exaggerated or misrepresented.  I'll try to be a little...|||Nope! I'm quite sure that's not how it works. Your type is already determined from a young age, and even if it weren't there's no chance you could actively direct it. I mean, your thoughts are...|||Turi: All of that makes a whole lot of sense!  I was actually thinking earlier today about how my tertiary Ti seems to pop-up kind of at random too (which is a pretty wild coincidence!). It's kind...|||LittleMissFreedom:  Look into your auxiliary function. That's the function that provides most of the conscious motivation to your thought process. If you find that you're often trying to give order...|||charlie.elliot : I hear you, but I can see why many people would find that method unreliable. Also, many of the INFJ descriptions I've seen don't really resonate, but I'm convinced that it's because...|||I suppose, as long as you're talking from experience and not ripping it off a website.  Preferably you would share your own experiences with your weaker perceiving function (Si, Ne, Ni, whatever)...|||Haha ok ready? I'm going to try to give it another go:  I've been thinking about mbti for days on end now, to the point where I literally see the concepts (function abreviations, functional stacks,...|||I think it really depends on the situation. But yeah, generally speaking Ni is averse to details because it has absolutely no use for them. It pretty much indiscriminately sheds the details in search...|||UnicornRainbowLove : Ok. Yes. I get that this is what is happening. But what I'm trying to say is that for me personally (as an Ni-dom) it seems like giving an account that a sensor can't relate to...|||So this is an idea that was born of a discussion in a previous thread: http://personalitycafe.com/cognitive-functions/1104066-can-any-intuitives-actually-describe-their-intuition.html  The idea...|||All that said, I would love to read about people's weaker perceiving functions. In fact, I'm gonna go start that thread!! 👍😎|||Turi: That's in line with my experience more or less. The only thing I would say is that I think Fe actually plays a role right from the get-go; without my having to seek people out and share the...|||Right, the way I look at it is this:  It all starts with the ego-block, that is the 2 leading functions. All the other blocks kind of fall in to place from there.  Now obviously the ego-block has...|||MBTI is not an empirical science, that much is obvious. But that doesn't mean it has no basis in reality. I would expect that as neuroscience improves over the next few decades it will be possible to...|||I have an INTP friend and an INFP friend, but I don't have either Ti or Fi in my ego block, so my understanding might be a little off.  At the most fundamental level: Ti uses logic - i.e. True or...'