'People have their priorities. It sounds like you know what his are. I'd say enjoy the friendship but don't necessarily get too invested. People don't always stay friends for various reasons, but that...|||Haha, the idea is interesting but wouldn't work for me. I was a classic 8w7 growing up, and even more eightish than I am now. A return to childhood would mean being even less mindful of others and...|||I find comparisons to a robot distasteful. I've had that term used to dismiss or downright discredit any feelings I had because I didn't put my heart on display in a Fe/sx-approved manner.   Being...|||I went through something similar (long distance move by myself away from family and friends for work).  I know what helped me was speaking to someone who had done that same thing before. They were...|||I'm pretty busy with work and personal projects (graphic design), but I'm still around.|||Yes.|||Agreed. I think three is more in control of their how they are seen. What I mean by that is they have more a hand in intentionally crafting it. I think eights by comparison are less hands on about...|||I'm going into art directing. It will take me a couple years to make the full switch but I've decided to make it anyways. I'll have regrets if I don't pursue it.  It's interesting-- MBTI career...|||Being an ESTJ would probably explain why I've always been more business-minded about art. I'm less into art for art's sake and more about being creatively productive.  It's a large part of why...|||I've talked with a few people about this; all of these people had very successful careers and retired early in life as a result of their career choices (all of them were born and raised in low income...|||I am pretty oblivious to office politics. Fortunately, my coworkers and immediate director are excellent at it.  I consult with them whenever I need to deal with politics as part of getting something...|||I just took the test (after reading this post). It's a pleasure to see my current career goals line up perfectly with my results, Artistic-Enterprising (AE).  This probably would have helped me...|||Vive    It's ridiculously manipulative. And yes, I do think she's probably an example of an extremely unhealthy six with a terrible sense of self esteem.  Yeah, I didn't realize when I first...|||Having been on the receiving end of this recently, some observations:  Asking the same questions in different ways to test the truthfulness of the answer. Looking for cracks in the response (not...|||Since this topic seems to have brought out the pro-weapons group on PerC, question for those who use pepper spray: how much comfort does that actually provide you as a tool? I've owned a few types of...|||I think its worth examining your own expectations. Are you hoping this is a step towards a relationship with her? Do you want it to be? Will you be able to handle the non-romantic dynamic? By that I...|||I left for a three day business trip. The trash can was near full. I come back and it's packed and the kitchen reeks to high heaven of rotting food.  My roommate is oblivious to it, as always. ...|||Type ones: have you had people tell you they need a more reactive response from you?  I talk with a type one sometimes, and I will get an emotionally neutral positive response when in a passionate...|||Yes, especially in a professional setting.   Unless I dislike the person, at which point it's more about seeing how far they can go before they realize they're digging their own grave.|||I think 90:10 is a good way of putting it. There are maybe some underlying pieces that are still there, but those parts are kind of under anesthesia once the 90 percent is gone. Then even those...|||I don't think I've become more prejudiced or tolerant. I'm not more or less open to people as a result of MBTI.  I am, however, better at finding ways to communicate with people I engage with. I...|||Voicing what others have said: four. Most likely 4w3.|||I believe it's part of being 8w9 (maybe it's just an eight thing), but being able to disconnect is fairly easy for me. It's a default defense mechanism.   On some level, getting emotionally...|||I don't care about intensity, and I think it's safe to say I don't seek it. This is probably a byproduct of being sp first, sx last.  My four friend is sx first and all about intensity. I find she...|||Second what a few others have said. What you want and should strive to be is assertive, not aggressive. Being aggressive will only create a new series of problems.|||739/793  The eight answers always seem too aggressive for me and the five answers too introverted.|||Everyone I have ever asked says none of the enneagram types sound like me. I don't know why. They'll pick out types for themselves, their SOs, their friends and family, but when it comes to me they...|||I legit forgot there were other long-time ESTJ members on here.|||The biggest thing you can do is show that you are personally responsible and actively in charge of yourself and your duties. Be organized, be a step ahead. Time manage yourself and keep track of what...|||I think I'm going to try and go back to school for design. I don't just want it for a career, I want to be one of the best in the field. I need to lay out a financial plan, though, to make this work....|||I'm 28. I work in digital marketing, which pays for the bills and social life. I didn't major in marketing; I fell into it after I realized my original major had too bleak a job outlook (and the...|||Thank you for telling me. I figured you (and the others on here) didn't mean it to be pedantic. I just find it frustrating because it does exactly what the intuitives are creative/visionary talk...|||In case it hasn't been said, get off these forums and stop reading MBTI. This personality system is toxic to you and has become verything a personality system shouldn't be. You are not supposed to...|||This sounds incredible. I would go in a heartbeat. I'd also offer to drive the whole thing, because they no such thing as too much driving.|||Goofy Practical Artistic Warm/friendly Optimistic Always running late Energetic Prefer working with people Drive too fast Like to stay home|||I would rather be awake than asleep. Sleeping can be pleasant, but it more often feels like an interruption from more interesting tasks.|||So if I understand what you've said, the passively established boundaries set by parallel play style interactions are viewed as less mature than the act of actively setting boundaries. ...|||chad86tsi  What then is the walking stage? If what you described is the crawling stage.|||Oh, I see. Based on what you wrote, I thought it was considered a very specific stage in development, one that considered either a precurser to other stages or the end goal.  I wasn't aware it was...|||Which is considered better from a developmental standpoint? Or is neither significantly better or worse as a practice, so long as there are no miscommunicated expectations?|||I can't say I've ever had that desire. The idea of someone being my world is incredibly uncomfortable. It undermines my freedom and autonomy and erases my independence. It makes me dependent on them...|||Education: English  Currently in marketing, looking to move into graphic design and eventually art directing. Am a bit concerned about the intial pay for graphic design, but I woud have more...|||I personally don't care for math as an activity in and of itself. I'm more oriented towards the arts.|||Is it really a break if you're still talking to people, though?|||On the ISTJ subforum.|||Best part of the week: the guy I'm designing a movie poster for is paying me well. And he's a good client and great to work with. I'm so damn lucky.|||It looks like I get to feel statistically special for a change. How nice. Which mod do I contact for my shoulder chip?|||Am 4 sx. So much me. Very concerning. Pls send help.|||I originally typed accurately, but it was during a period when eights were viewed as black swan occurrences. So I ended up switching to other types before eventually finding my way back to eight.|||I'm somewhat confused. From what you're saying, it seems to me that you want people to stand up for you, but don't think much about giving the same in return. Not intended to be a slight-- I'm just...'