'Thank you! I forgot to reply on this. I talk to him casually when I need something or help but not as we we're good friends. He sometimes tries to reach out, I respond to his casually. I don't want...|||K is a closet and as a typical ISFJ he is trying to fit in as a machismo. He told me that the spark was gone, that while he was trying to court me , I was so vague that eventually he feared his...|||Update:  Recently I left for out of town because I was really upset on how things are going on with me and this person. I had to compromise my school papers just to get a different environment away...|||I just want his friendship back.  When we have the opportunity to speak about this, I will tell him. Though right now, since he is already in speaking terms with me, I'll leave it at that so not to...|||I know I am being blamed because I was never direct to him in fear of rejection. I am also defending myself that in the first place,  he was never direct to me as well. We started as that when I...|||I agree on your point. He may not really be or may have backed out. He started our friendship and he ended it. I may have been attracted to him but I never initiated any romantic relationship with...|||This is how it ended:  A few weeks ago he already gave me a cold shoulder, the way he responds and the way he generally treats me. I brushed it off since I don't want it to be an issue, knowing...|||I've already apologized to him personally that I made him feel I'm clingy. He said it's OK. I also thanked him for spending time gym with me. He's still avoidant in a way like not wanting to seat...|||He knows me for 2 years and has seen my tendencies - I mean behavior and attitude, already as a person. It was never an issue before and why would he invite me to gym and spend time for 2 months if...|||I don't think that all his actions will be based on that. It would seem very immature that he would fixate his friendship on basis of that. I would say rather that there is a different reason for him...|||He wasn't pushing you away because he's interested in someone else. That's just how you interpret it to make yourself feel like you had any special significance in his life beforehand.  He probably...|||This is how it ended : http://personalitycafe.com/isfj-forum-nurturers/726410-sraight-gay-crush-isfj-11.html#post25141282|||This is how it ended:  A few weeks ago he already gave me a cold shoulder, the way he responds and the way he generally treats me. I brushed it off since I don't want it to be an issue, knowing...|||I will be honest and tell him next time he jokes about it. If he continues to be like that, then the problem is not me anymore.|||Kerik_S I am not whitewashing myself I never did, I would not have posted in INTP and here if I did not have any plans of undoing my offenses.  I will tell him seriously that I am gay next time...|||Kerik_S he already told me that he doesn't mind me being gay, that should settle any issues about my sexuality.|||This man has a sharp mind and he can read between the lines. He is not a low IQ jock ( no offense ) that doesn't know what people imply by their words and actions.  I'm not gonna argue and assume...|||I am totally accountable of my actions, the reason I posted the first thread in the INTP section was for me to get advise on how I can take him back as a friend. I was able to take him back as a...|||No. My jokes are enough to tell him I'm gay especially that  tell it to him I'm gay and he's my type. If he is not decided yet or is ashamed to admit to me, it is okay. What I dislike is his way of...|||My past actions are always being brought up, even though I have done actions to compensate for it.  Would you think we will have this friendship and kind of banter if I kept hurting him? Would a...|||It is evident that I am changing that by the effort I am putting to this friendship and by being more direct to him. It would have been better if he reciprocated and not have this mind games.  It's...|||Thank you greco I know I have offended him before, but it was already passed. We have a different friendship now and I and trying to let him see that I really like him and I even tell him that when...|||I am not toying with him! I am already making myself vulnerable to him by admitting that I like him, yet he chooses to play games with me.|||I never toyed with him, I clearly stated that I still did not know if I wanted a relationship with him that time therefore I did not give a clear sign on how I felt. Offending me and pissing me off...|||Good for you dude. Tell him to take that asshattery elsewhere. Now, if he's any part decent, he'll stop reaching out to you or will come clean about what he's doing. If he starts to cling again, you...|||I'm giving this guy chances to be understood before I close out, since I might not open up to him anymore once I decide to end my association with him.  I'll start next week by not going to gym...|||He already told me that he doesn't mind if I'm gay, I also told him You're my type every time he teases me. His jokes are becoming more sexual and to the point that he is kidding me by pointing to...|||Well I'm sorry if I treated him like that before. I said that I did not have interest at him before and I was deciding that time. It was after that time that he invited me to gym with him and told me...|||My initial line of thought was to know if he was gay, as I have said I have tons of straight friends manlier than him. He is the only one doing this to me, which had me thinking he was up to...|||I already told him to tell me if he doesn't want to go to gym with me anymore, he just replied  It's not like that, it's just tough love.  If I make him that uncomfortable, I'll do the honor of...|||I have straight friends who are manlier than him, it would be a stereotype to say that to straight men - though I get your point that that's how men usually joke around. I would refuse to accept that...|||That's true. I thought he would be a good friend since he was the one who approached the friendship and was the one to asked me to gym with him twice since I declined initially. I thought it would be...|||Well he admitted to me that he does it on purpose because he finds me easy to piss off. So I decided not to continue to gym with him after next week. What he's doig is totally disrespectful and a...|||He does that to make me jealous to see my reaction.  Well he admitted to me that he does it on purpose because he finds me easy to piss off. So I decided not to continue to gym with him after next...|||Well he admitted to me that he does it on purpose because he finds me easy to piss off. So I decided not to continue to gym with him after next week. What he's doig is totally disrespectful and a...|||Well he admitted to me that he does it on purpose because he finds me easy to piss off. So I decided not to continue to gym with him after next week. What he's doig is totally disrespectful and a...|||I was really offended when he asked our common friend to go out of town with them, my reason is I am always with him at the gym so we're often together even without class, I was also there with his...|||He is already doing that when we get teased as gay or bromance by our friends. Like when we were walking in a mall with 2 of our classmates, one put her arm on my shoulder; when he saw that he...|||I like him because we have alot of similarities like hobbies, perception on things, and he is attractive to me. I'm just waiting for a clear sign that he is not interested like he tells me he doesn't...|||He would just jokingly say, I'm not ready yet,  Fuck you , or just smile. He would usually open a gay topic and tease me so I retort by telling him  I know you're gay and that you like me, or ...|||I understand. It is very difficult to deal with him. When I told him that I have plans of not going to the same gym with him he refused and wanted me to stay. I don't understand why is he being...|||I was really offended when he asked our common friend to go out of town with them, my reason is I am always with him at the gym so we're often together even without class, I was also there with his...|||The update was actually above your reply. Hopefully you can give your insights. Thanks.|||He was asking me to in to some hobbies to try with him, so I said okay. I said, we can play computer games at your house, just teach me the game. I said I am available the whole week, but he never...|||He was asking me to in to some hobbies to try with him, so I said okay. I said, we can play computer games at your house, just teach me the game. I said I am available the whole week, but he never...|||How do you see this:  He asked me to hang out with him and his friends and they were talking about hiking, they were saying the more the merrier. I was interested to join them but was just waiting...|||He was asking me to in to some hobbies to try with him, so I said okay. I said, we can play computer games at your house, just teach me the game. I said I am available the whole week, but he never...|||We went to gym earlier, he said he will go his pace. He was a bit more considerate though. So I think it was really a decision, it was just offensive for me that he doesn't communicate properly.|||I have a friend that I find very moody. I think he is an ISFJ. The recent offense that I got was when we were working out at the gym. Yesterday he was okay with me, though a bit distant because his...|||Thank you guys. I starter this thread for me to better understand ISFJ behavior and way of thinking so that I can decide if I can be honest to this friend, especially that his actions were really...'