'Ah! I understand now :)|||I see, by rebel you mean that Fi wouldn't feel so obliged to conform to any external standards/judgments?|||A big downside with getting a degree is the expense.|||You're probably right, Fe types have their personal preferences like Fi types. In the same way, all types - Fi types included - are socialized to a degree and their views/judgments are molded by...|||Intuition in general is perceiving things beyond the physical reality. For instance, Se/Si perceive the details of a physical object. Ne/Ni look behind the physical details into more abstract lines...|||Se appears in a few ways that I can think of:  1. You are highly aware of the details in your surroundings. Sensory details, like the smell of sea salt in the air or the feeling of the breeze on...|||I think about the future, usually a general place/situation I'd like to be in or a vague this would be nice to do. Long-term planning is very difficult, but not impossible.|||At the end of the day, the MBTI defines how we observe and process information. INFJs do this differently from ISFPs, but this doesn't mean an INFJ/ISFP relationship is doomed or won't work....|||I've liked every ENFP I've met/known and I wish I knew more of them. I also found that I get on well with INTPs. Don't think I know any INFPs or ENTPs. I really appreciate Ne! The ENFPs in my life...|||Yea! I'm always amazed with Ne and think it's awesome how Ne types can see beneath the surface and intuit all the different underlying layers and insights, things that would never even occur to me....|||Whoa! Cool :)|||Take a look at this picture (random forest picture from google): http://assets.worldwildlife.org/photos/2842/images/original/shutterstock_12730534.jpg?1352150501  My immediate impressions: - Rich...|||It's not that the conversation is dead per se. I may just feel like it's not necessary to respond, or I may put off responding if I'm not up for conversation/formulating words at the moment. It's...|||Hey ISFJs, could you give an example of how ISFJs are self-forgetting and give too much to the point of neglecting their own needs? Does this come up in your life and if so, how?|||No. I may be unconvinced before doing something new, but once I'm actually doing that new thing it's usually fine.  For instance, I might be unsure about trying a new meal if I know I could easily...|||Any ISFP writers on the forum?  Was watching this video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BpPVeP6FUI&index=6&list=PL6rzdODmcL641s7WiVwaAAMlTrwnI1bCA (definitely recommend watching Michael...|||It may just be that the ISFP doesn't feel it's necessary to respond, or is just happy letting the conversation hibernate at that point.|||Do you mean that you feel other people's emotions and feelings? For instance, you see someone getting shouted at or embarrassed in public, and you personally feel embarrassed with that person even...|||I really like every ENFP I know :) Fun, hilarious, down-to-earth, and very caring people (at least the ones I know).|||Sorry for the confusion, my comment about mainstream/counterculture wasn't in response to yours, more just pointing out what seems like a common misconception.|||Do you mean like a role model? As in, you need to do something so you think about what someone you respect/admire might do in that situation, and actively try to be more like that person?|||Hm... not sure if that's Fe/Fi though. I'm a pretty big people pleaser and I care about what other people think. Fi may be particularly vulnerable to criticism of their judgments, as emberfly said,...|||How would you say Ni appears for ISFPs? I struggle to understand this myself.  Sometimes I'll see something and a connection will just pop up like oh, that must relate to/mean this different...|||1. Silent, on-edge, concise, tend to slam things. 2. Don't yell at the ISFP or push their buttons. Take a deep breath and just say alright, I'm just gonna go cool off for a bit. 3. Depends. If...|||There may be trouble with conversations that get too theoretical without concrete information or anecdotes to ground them. So a discussion about ISFPs and INTJs being relations of activity in...|||My apologies, didn't mean to get off point. I'm not a parent, but Ferroequinologist's advice seemed really good, particularly about removals and time-outs. Those killed me as a kid. It might help to...|||Eh... I don't know.  Maybe it would help to take the MBTI out of the equation for now, I don't know if the functions really develop so early.|||Aye.    Don't worry, ISFPs are capable of having deep discussions. Just not when they're forced.|||Fi reaches the same conclusion, just differently I suppose.|||The first part of that sounds right, that Fe judges by external standards. But along that line of reasoning, Fi judges by internal standards. I don't think authenticity/inauthenticity really factors...|||Not sure the desire for affirmation is inherently related to the functions. It sounds more related to the Enneagram. For instance, Enneagram 3 might seek out affirmation that they are important and...|||Not sure if overcompensating to be the toughest, smartest, etc. is related to the functions. The functions are meant to explain cognition, not necessarily behaviors/motivations. So Se involves the...|||Se comes up when I'm in the moment absorbing the sensory details in the present moment. In this case, Se is often tied with Fi. A beautiful environment or song can evoke strong emotions. Se also...|||How do ISFPs express romantic love? It is usually said that dom/aux Se users express love through action. Is this true for you? Do you ever write love notes/letters? Do you ever express love through...|||Hey guys, I don't think it's been asked much here and I thought it'd be fun -- do you guys collect stuff? If so, what?  For me, I like collecting cool old/antique stuff, like videogames, mugs,...|||Pretty rarely. If I try reading a book I usually get bored after the first few pages. But occasionally I get caught up and quickly read through to the end. Great feeling of accomplishment after that...|||It ends up being last man standing when the AI is stupid and attacks, whereby I squish them under the boots of my expanding armies :crazy: But hey, if they're up for alliances, I'm all for it|||Games like Risk, Total War, etc. Do you play them? If so, how? Do you prefer offense or defense? Do you try to predict enemy movements? Do you have a game plan?  I usually start with strategic...|||Arm myself and those around me. If no weapons are readily available, make some. Gather non-perishable food items in a safe location. Barricade the house. Wait for several days, see what happens. Who...|||And a glorious day that shall be... muhuhaha... MUHUHAHAHAA  http://www.catster.com/files/20130114-cat-oki-cat-1.jpg|||INTJs seem more cold and serious, intimidating. Take a look at Tommy Lee Jones in interviews to get an idea. Brick walls, the lot of them :tongue: INTPs seem more relaxed, more inclined to goofiness...|||What were you guys like as young teenagers? I was pretty insecure, which made me loud and generally a pain in the ass in an attempt to get people to like me. Later in my teens something just clicked...|||Hey guys, just curious about how do you folks come up with ideas when creating something? Or, how do you find ideas come to you? Are they prompted by something you see/hear, or do they seem to come...|||Many of my friends through the years (quite possibly a majority) have been INTPs. I get their humor, find them interesting, easy to talk to and easy to be friends with :) But still, it always varies...|||Thanks for clarifying that a bit Erlian -- I relate a lot to your description of Fe. But there are still some points in other descriptions of Fe that I'm not sure about. For example, I'm pretty...|||Thank you for the thorough feedback Erlian! I do relate to the INFJ description in a lot of ways. But then again, I relate to a good number of the descriptions for the other types as well. I'm a...|||Hey guys, I'm trying to figure out my personality type, and was hoping to get some help from you folks! I have a decent knowledge of the cognitive functions, but still find them pretty confusing. Any...|||16 breaths per minute :happy:|||I definitely think you're Fi! I related to a lot about what you said, too, even though your experiences are different from mine. I also have a lot of doubt and confusion about my type, too, and I...|||I find that sudden inspiration/motivation is often how I get started with a project. It often comes up as you know, that would be pretty cool to try and then I go try it. Sometimes its something...'