'Some see a sink-or-swim environment.  The fear is that some people aren't strong enough to swim, so it's through no fault of their own if they sink.  I'm just saying, it's possible to do...|||Just a couple of examples:  My godsister's family is very proud. Like, proud of their pro-family moral superiority. Any marriage proposals need the family's blessing (to an extremity where one of...|||I'm sorry, I don't recall having had any past discussions with you. But if I'm not the first person who said this to you, and you keep getting the same kinds of responses, then maybe the problem lies...|||Oh yeah! All the time! It's kind of like how muscles need to break apart (disintegrate) in order to become stronger (integrate). Disintegration and integration's a cycle.  So for me... when I'm...|||Right? My position on it is that psychology isn't a pure science, because the fact that (general) you're studying humans also qualifies it as humanities. I don't think the subjective qualities...|||1.) The Intelligent Enneagram, A.G.E. Blake. - I like processes more than I like people. There is a shout-out to the personality enneagram in here somewhere!  2.) The Integral Enneagram, Susan...|||Oooh I want to try!  Q: How many fours does it take to change a light bulb? A: None. They live in darkness.|||brightflashes : Either Chrome or PerC is not letting me reply, so I'm just going to... structure this somehow...   This is not necessarily my perspective, but there's that replication problem. Not...|||Speaking of Haha?, I'm on this forum for entertainment. It just looks like seriousness to everyone else. Some people take their entertainment seriously.  I essentially made the same argument...|||I'm sure this is a rhetorical question, and I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but I think it should be spelled out somewhere.  For some people, there's no boundary between what they value...|||If people can spread misinformation, and people write books, then why would books be free of misinformation?  Who decides what is misinformation and what is another valid perspective?|||Which are written by flawed people with their own biases which may or may not be addressed. Why do we take what is written in Enneagram literature as perfect information that couldn't be revised or...|||How is it any different than me going, As an American... or As an Asian American... Why do we assume that there's only one legitimate experience of a type, and everything else is...|||Bias: Background in the hard sciences.  There isn't exactly universal agreement on whether psychology ought to be considered a science or an art. There isn't even universal agreement within...|||Exactly! And that theory is going to be informed mostly by a much more vague way of theoretical understanding than one that has a scientific foundation.[/QUOTE] Bias: On the spectrum of...|||What is with people's black-and-white perspective on health? People are treating it as if you're either healthy or you're unhealthy. It's something you are, at all times, everywhere. It's like...|||Fun to me is mostly about having mental stimulation. In normal days, it's I don't want to be bored or I have so much to do that boredom is a luxury, but if I think a little harder, it's more...|||There won't be much official resources on tritypes because... it's an intensive effort to study the process of individuation.  Actually, I feel like that's the part where we learn more about...|||IMPURE ANGER TYPES UNWELCOME! D:< YEAH, TALKING ABOUT YOU 8w7 AND 1w2!  A line is a boundary. When lines are crossed, people get angry.  You know what makes me angry? (A lot of things, but...|||It's the same idea as all nine types are variations of type nine!   Well, there are people who fear themselves as well.   They have issues relating to experts and other kinds of...|||But that does happen! Over PMs or other private channels. That's how I first learned about those feuds that have lasted across many typology forums! Rarely, I get an invitation to get involved, and...|||Duuuuuuudddee! You ever read the ban/infractions forum? There was once a mod who wrote poems. *sad*  Sorry, I'm going to rant. Feel free to ignore. All you are general you.  So a lot of...|||People have all nine types within them, so people should be open to and accept the possibility that there's not always a clear or easy answer. For example, if it occurs to me that someone could be a...|||Warning: cir's stupid pedantry.  Motivations and emotions share the same Latin root, mot. Something about motives and motion...  *arbitrary skepticism* Maybe there's some kind of center...|||There's an entire center, the image/shame/emotion center, that deals with hiding our motivations from ourselves and from others. Plenty of people consciously and unconsciously hide their...|||If you don't think it's possible for people to hide their motivations, then what's wrong with starting with what's already been said? What if complaining about it, either looking for help or for...|||The secret to happiness is low expectations.   Have you ever read Ouspensky's In Search of the Miraculous? There are a lot of chemistry metaphors being used to illustrate scales of life, and...|||A min-maxer in single-player games. The Persona video game series is influenced by Jungian psychology, Tarot, mythology, etc etc... and also the enneagram! As proof, here's a screenshot from Persona...|||That much? Why would you invest any effort into people who show you zero respect? What were you hoping to get out of these interactions that would make it worth your troubles? I think you should...|||Everyone, whether they realize it or not, has multiple personas for use in more-private settings and multiple personas for use in more-public settings. Public and private are in a spectrum. As long...|||The circle is the law of one, and it's basically relating to cycles, recurrence, and/or eternity. Nine and zero are either the same point or they overlap.  The law of seven and law of one...|||Quite frankly, the enneagram is about self-discovery, so the bottom line is: only you can determine your tritype. Your posts on the internet is not an accurate representation of who you are. Every...|||Rose for a Heart : I'm sorry. This will be my last post.   What makes you think I'm interested in a complete picture of you?   I seem to recall you bitching about large egos in a thread about...|||You were pretty good at telling me to let go of my conceptual understanding, so please allow me to modify that advice and redirect it back to you. You could let go of your preconceived notions...|||I'm just going to throw this out there as food for thought. Anyone is free to ignore this if they do not find it relevant.  The construction of this response will be a bit different. I'm replying...|||I acknowledge your desire to end this conversation, so this will just be my closing statement.  Shame: If someone has done something to cause distrust, then the serious emotional toll is the...|||Premeditated murder, drugging with a psychedelic that amounts of psychic rape, inducing an opiate dependency, capture/rape/torture...  If ignoring your existence is on the same level as literally...|||I find acceptance that I can be a cruel person. Shame is the emotion of disconnection, and that includes social disconnection. People can only cry wolf so many times before their words start to...|||Check this table out. The basic desire column? I gave an egos are a defensive mechanism answer. I would suspect people would give a type-related answer because we all see egos as different...|||Ah yes... I should understand this struggle because people often question any eight's typing...  To be completely honest... My typing is not questioned anywhere nearly as frequently as other eights...|||I have to admit something. I may have been seven shots of vodka in when I wrote that (crying feels really good and indulgent sometimes), and a night's sleep later, I realized I forgot to include some...|||If only PerC has a Freudian Psychology or Jungian Psychology forum, then you could cross-post it there as well.   It's perfectly normal to want to be unconditionally loved by our parents. And...|||But I go off the rails because of my deep love for humanity! :crazy:   After all, the only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible. And that's why sanity is...|||It's very possible. While we're united by our aggressive, expansive approach to life, where that expansion occurs varies per individual.  The description seen here is from a close friend. I...|||+1  Since we're stacking masks now... I have a 3w4 fix. To say that it's possible to fully know who we are is like saying that it's possible to fully actualize all of our potentials. Human...|||Obligatory not a four and this is probably unhelpful answer:   Also, consider: don't get too excited by any creative career because your creativity could be restricted/ignored by...|||Here's a trend that I see: What essentially differentiates the contraflow stackings from the synflow stackings is their relationship to their tertiary instincts. The contraflow stackings have a more...|||English: Do You Know It?  Honestly, I put in quite a lot of effort into responding to this post, but I had to look up and post the definitions of too many words in order to continue this...|||All of them.   Be less lazy.  Continuation goals: Do the following every. single. day. The main goal here is optimal habit formation:   Do a set of exercise (squats, 15 minutes of rowing, or...|||TL;DR: Death. Lots and lots of death. Death to 2016, and a piss on its grave!  Happy birthday 2017! May we live in interesting times!   Where?   I'm placing bets on the first three definitions...'