'The ENTP's win.  INTJs would be crushing us, apparently cruising to an easy victory.    Then right as it appears they are about to win, the INTJ forces realize they're in a mockup of the ENTP...|||There are a lot of reasons to suspect that it's more than just a useful taxonomy tool.  We want to ascribe it less reality because it's only a time object.  Time objects are no less real than space...|||Yeah it totally does.  I understand this soooooooooo much better now.  THANKS TO NiDBiLD|||Well, is it wise to make your point?  Would you have made it had I not posted the thread?  Probably.  But the title of this thread made it the perfect situation to voice this thought.  More discourse...|||Really?  Hmmm...  Why not?  Is it that you want to feel autonomous?|||That sounds... impossible.|||Ne leads us where it wills, no doubt about that.  It leads me through the land of credible bullshit most often, but plenty of other places as well, for sure.  Value assessment...  I often wonder what...|||I think we T's do that as well, though perhaps from a different angle.  I often over-analyze interactions, but usually it has something to do with work or people involved in a project or something. ...|||I know an INFP.   I dated her for about two weeks.   She was very sexy.  But... You guys are aliens.   I mean... um...  I believe you.   You are at peace, and untroubled, and in the moment. ...|||That's very practical of you, ha ha...  And such economy of language! I have goals too, but I rarely think about them.  It's a strategy/tactics thing I guess.  You guys are strategy minded.|||No, it doesn't sound boring.  It's not what I do in my head, but I understand it.  It makes sense to me.  I'm struck by how alien some brains are.  This thing you describe is not me, but it's not...|||Mine is.  But two wives is my limit.  So this next one, it can't be catch and release (self-preservation, remember), but it ain't gonna be a Mrs. neither.|||Really, you should introduce yourself by tossing a nuclear bomb at the thread.  It's the only way parrots will take you seriously.  That's why we hit Nagasaki, actually.  The Japanese were overrun...|||An adequate dismissal, since we're still stretching.  I guess the colorful parrot helps others distinguish you?|||I can name two that seem to fit the bill.   Jimmy V.  and Dick Vermeil. 432314 They might be ENFP's though, not sure. A definite ENTP crybaby coach would be me.  Any thoughts?|||Well, I've read that I'm supposed to find myself an INFJ woman.  My first woman was a delightful INFP.  Probably.  It was a long time ago. Hard to say for sure.  But we got along great.  My second...|||Aesthetics offers a lot of ground for analysis.  I'm still more or less driving in a reject aesthetic relativism direction, but my thoughts are always evolving on that.  Art is manifesting agency...|||It's interesting.  I like to consume the first - fantasy, sci-fi, wizards and dragons and stuff.  Yes, even now at 44 yo.  But I tend to only think about the second of the two areas you listed. ...|||That's why everyone needs a loyal ENTP on the team.  They're snarling to fight those battles for you.|||Well, see it's more like this.   I walk into this forum, and I'm like... Oh. These people have no idea who I am. How delightfully and thoroughly incautious they are. They think 4 letters make us...|||I want to Skype with you, Obv.  And record it.  And put it on YouTube.  You seem dramatically less pussywillowy than most about just pulling the trigger on shit.  My skype is autonomy.debate  If...|||2015 432034   2007ish 432050 2014 432058|||My daughter and I discuss life as ENTP's from the male and female perspective.  My daughter talks about how hard it is to find guys.  :rolleyes:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa0XnFBIzWk|||I want one too.  You wanna skype me?  autonomy.debate|||No I mean on the internet.  I don't get schooled in real life, ever.|||No, I've been wholly disappointed.  Not a single attempt on my life.  Nor any replies.|||To the several questioners of this:  I apologized because we're ENTP's and therefore that's the contrarian position.   That you didn't anticipate this answer makes me the better ENTP ;-). ...|||The only person who ever really schooled me - I mean crushed me - was an ENFP.  Careful.  She'll lull you into complacency first.  I warn you because we're only unbeatable up to a certain degree of...|||431554  431562  431570|||I'm curious though.  Do you plan it?  Cause I don't think I plan any of it.  It just seems to happen.  Someone will arrive and help where I need help, when I need the person to do so.  I scrunch my...|||You got me believing it too, homie.  Well said, spot on, nailed it, fingertip to nose, and so forth.|||The test appears to no longer work, or does not work for me, at least. I consider myself highly ethical.  That doesn't necessarily mean I am nice.  I can tell you that I absolutely do ascribe to...|||I enjoyed your post on the late night Alamo trip, by the way.  You've got good instincts for text to image balance in the media.|||1.  I got that picture from an E-N-T-P, which is a Tumblr thing, if memory serves.  Memory doesn't occupy much head space ;-)  2.  I'm close.  I'm seriously close to reading her mind.  3.  I too...|||The dimension of space objects is for losers anyways.  I'm with you.  It's time objects all the way down.|||Um... greatest four steps ever?!|||I would consider my own analysis of Naruto and Naruto Shippuden to be among the most credible of my bullshit. :-)|||Me, I'm ENTP.  I'ma go with...  Credible bullshit.  431322|||Self-preserving moves to Sexual   For example, the self preserving subtype considers a mate as an essential need to maintain and insure security. Therefore, when in search of a mate the...|||Here's the thing.  To the other respondents, you aren't answering the question he's really asking.  Drohski:    The reason is because they don't know.  We just want our significant others to be...|||Here's the thing.  To the other respondents, you aren't answering the question he's really asking.  Drohski:    The reason is because they don't know.  We just want our significant others to be...|||An accurate generalization.  I was comfortable in my director position, with a flexible boss, and control over the whole program architecture, but relieved of some of the stupid inter-personal bs of...|||Thank you for the thoughtful and wholly engaging comment.   I entirely agree regarding generosity and loyalty to inner circle peeps;  I also still think we're a bit selfish, with our time if...|||We went to the marriage counselor.  The counselor said, confusedly, to my ex-wife, he's like a teenager... is he always like this?  I just want to play all the time.  That's it.  Why should I...|||Intuitive Despot.  That's cool.  I like that a lot.|||What kind of ENTP blunders through a rebuttal like that?  SMH.  There's nothing remotely anti-accountability about my text.   Nor is there a reduction of the type to broken misfit. Nor is there...|||Coach debate.  It's the perfect job.  In some formats, the topic changes every month.  It's zero-sum intellectual warfare.  A proxy battle between coaches - all highly intelligent - via their...|||It never will, and it's a waste of your talents.  I hate that they trap us so young, when we have no idea what's happening.  Cause then so many of us get stuck there.  Obligations, needs, etc... ...|||Totally.  There is no landing place that remains satisfactory for long.  Safety is stasis.  We hate stasis.|||I'm a leader.  I own the world's strangest school.  It's a school no one would ever go to, except I do real stuff instead of fake stuff, so I'm judged on my actual competency.  I liberate sovereigns....'