'I'm an ENTP currently in a relationship with an INFP.   It's going quite well, there have been some problems, but they haven't really been because of personality clashes.   Anything you guys...|||I love the night. I just wish I wasn't always tired.  I also love the day, but only when it is really sunny. I can't stand days (like today) when it is just overcast and you see barely any light.|||I read somewhere that you shouldn't do the Enneagram test before you are 25, as until that point your personality is still developing. To learn so much about yourself when you are still young can...|||Father: ENFJ Mother: ESFJ|||Yeah I think that is how I should act. I am a notorious over-thinker.|||The one I have read most about is the 9/11 attacks.  A whole lot of fishy things went on.  I also love the really ancient stuff like - as several other people have already mentioned - the...|||I can't quite identify with your personal root of depression, but I find that depression has only one cause, and only one cure.  The cause is over-thinking. Doesn't matter what it's about, but if...|||I do work out and I have quite a lot of self confidence (other people think so as well).  I do pretty much all you said I should, but that's what makes my lack of ability to initiate in the kind of...|||I used to never care about how I looked really. That's changed somewhat. I like looking nice, and I buy myself some nice clothing, but I still don't really care all that much about what other people...|||Mzansi -   I do similar things to people I don't know (or barely know), but it is when they are more than simply acquaintances, but less than friends. I feel as though they fall between two camps...|||Sorry but I totally disagree with this. Scientific epistemology is totally dependent on faith as well. Plus faith isn't absence of proof, it is simply belief when you don't know 100% for sure. I had...|||Dear ENTJ,  Don't think I'll obey you like everyone else. If we go head to head, you'll find my will is just as strong as yours.  Signed, INTP|||Pro-life.  I've become even more convinced of this since starting my philosophy degree.|||I find I have a big problem with initiating things with people.  Now random people I have never met before I am fine with, and it's the same with close friends. But I find it really hard to...|||I agree totally. I think you can find joy and meaning in life without a deity, just not objective meaning. Big difference!   I liked the idea of being free from any objective meaning, that was why...|||Thanks bro, but I already knew what Nihilism was. As I said in my post, I study philosophy, so that is kind of a given :)  To explain further, as you correctly guessed, I do think life is totally...|||I'm a theist.  I used to want to be an atheist (I kind of liked the idea of meaningless for a while). Plus the abuse I got because I was a theist made me want to be accepted I guess. So I felt...|||While I never became an atheist. I outgrew any desire to be an atheist when I was 18.|||That makes me think I am an ENTP it describes me so well.|||Eternal means exists outside of time.   Everlasting means exists forever within time.  I believe the first, Richard Swimburne belives the second.    Why?|||Read 'Is there a God?'  Swimburne gives a fairly good definition (but I don't agree with all of it).  I would start there.|||I'm not blaming anything. I am just saying, INTJs are known to be literal, and when you are on an INTJ forum you should be more careful saying what you mean, as people will take you on what you say....|||I take everything too literally. I'm an INTJ. But I take you on what you say, and I will show you why what you said was wrong.    Do you know what an appeal to ridicule is? I mean look it up....|||What would consitute as evidence in your eyes? I find most atheists say that they are open if the evidence is there, but then refuse to say what the evidence required is. That is a very close minded...|||Another appeal to ridicule. You really should learn your fallacies.  Please tell me where in Christianity a 'fairy' is mentioned? Or scratch that, where in the five largest religions a 'fairy' is...|||Most atheists are ignoring the hard questions.  The arguments for God vastly outweight the arguments against. Most of you became atheists over emotional issues (problem of evil etc.) and yet...|||What has the realization Santa doesn't exist have to do with this discussion? Aappeal to ridicule much?|||Highly religious Catholic.  I contemplated atheism, but found it would be dishonest. Deism is a much more honest position (in my view). But I read a lot about the subject, weighed up the evidence...|||Not a problem :)    Thank you very much for the link. I'll look into it at once.|||Sorry I was being stupid. I totally mis-understood what you were saying.  With SJs they like some one who will help with their projects or every day work. What Keirsey would call the 'help mate'...|||Thanks, that's really interesting. Does that mean asking ENFJs about their emotions or noticing one of their emotional responces and being interested in that?  As for SJs and SPs, it all depends on...|||Sure, but he did believe in a God. That was all west was saying. He never stated he was 'religious'.|||I kind of like it, but I have only watched one episode. I don't think I would enjoy it in the long run though. Something about it just wound me up slightly.|||As an INTx I find that if people show an interest in one of my subjects (philosophy, theology etc.) I instantly find them much better looking. Literally once somone started talking to be about Alvin...|||Does anyone else find people a lot more attractive if you know they have a thing for you?|||Why do you believe atheism to be a religion?|||It's not a religion. It isn't even a world view.  Naturalism however is a world view, and as almost all atheists are also naturalists, I'd argue against that rather than simply the statement of...|||Yeah I agree anyway. I think the only point such a line of argument could possibly prove is you can be a great mind and Christian (I dont' think anyone would argue against that) and that these people...|||I am personally friends with six Roman Catholic NTs who are all under the age of 25.|||INTPs can be over introvert, and can just go off and do their own thing randomly. Things like that annoy me. But generally I get on great with INTPs.|||Darwin was an agnostic.  On page 94 of his autobiography he says:  The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an Agnostic.  And why...|||I don't know.   (I'm in a self destructive mood today - ask me tomorrow and I'll be able to give you a clear, ballenced, rationally thought out answer).|||I remember my dad saying he used to argue with his Theology professor regularly.   I think often though with INTJ/Ps we can think we understand what the other person is saying, they are trying to...|||Not always, but quite often.|||I get along great with INTPs, and I might be an INTJ.|||Perhaps.   I like to think I am soft on the inside as well though.|||At first I saw that the melon was hard on the outside but soft on the inside, while peach is soft on the outside and hard on the inside.  I just can't connect with a watermolon in the same way....|||I'd have to say peach. But that might just be because I like peach more than watermelon...|||I'm going through the same problem. I have no idea if I am an INTP or an INTJ. I love planning things out, and I know I am way more productive when I do so, but I also love keeping things open. The...|||Used to be.  Made some friends.   Not any more.'