'Do you believe in destiny?   Do you enjoy flirting for its own sake?  Yes, but I prefer a rather classy and intellectual reading-between-the-lines way and I rarely meet women who get it.  Does...|||I have some experience with leading, especially with the leading-without-power in peer groups you seem to look for, therefore I might be able to offer some general advice. It's not in any way...|||Congratulations to the new job!  Since this might be interesting for other people as well, I'm posting a TED video that might be helpful in this context:  Amy Cuddy: Your body language shapes who...|||Well... you can't post that in an INTJ forum an seriously expect no objections. :wink:  Alcohol as common name refers solely to ethanol, which is solvable in other substances like water or other...|||After the war there was a collective hiding-under-the-blanket, because of the shame for what Germany had done to the world. Also, the East-German population wasn't allowed to travel, so there were...|||German - native language English - fluent Standard Arabic - intermediate Latin - learned it for seven years at school, thought I forgot everything and was surprised that I understood quite a lote...|||Please...  Love isn't just Oxytocin, sex isn't just Dopamine, beauty isn't just symmetry, thoughts are not just electrical signals, behaviour isn't just a stimulus-response process, speaking isn't...|||Jokes are usually based more on associative ideas than on logical deduction. A lot of the jokes in this thread are complete rubbish when you look at them with pure logic and reason. We're not arguing...|||Guys... you're overthinking this.|||If you want to successfully battle an INTJ in the debating arena, everything depends on the battlefield, specifically: Who do you want to convince? Is you objective the INTJ changing his/her opinion?...|||Nailed it.|||Wait, you mean they don't share the same language!? E.g. True could answer ja while meaning no and False could answer ja while meaning yes?|||One god one question or one god three questions?   You're sure this is logically solveable?|||Marriage is a contract that pledges the participants to mutual protection and economical provision, although not on an extremely high level anymore. Sex and love are traditionally seen as an...|||The test is actually rather interesting, and, at least for me, considerably accurate. I was surprised by that because there are only a handful of questions with a binary answer - not an extreme...|||That's actually strange and doesn't increase my confidence in the test you took. You simply can't have developed Te and Ti.   You're concious mind has only one of them. If you're an INTP, you have...|||A possible problem in an INTJ-INTJ-relationship is the bad habit of INTJs to be very straightforward on the one hand but also very sensitive to signals of rejection on the other hand. Luckily INTJs...|||Having been with an INTJ for years with the biggest fight beeing a very serious discussion, I can't see your point. Aside from the fact that you're excessively oversimplifying: What makes you think...|||68634|||15, but she broke it up after two months, since I was learning to slow how to behave in a relationship. My first serious relationship started when I was 18 with another INTJ I met on an internet...|||The letter-system has created a lot of misunderstandings of MBTI. You might think that the fact that you're both feeling-types makes you similar, which it doesn't. Having an F in the type-name just...|||ESFPs (SEE) and INTJs (ILI) are considered to be ideal matches in Socionics. I had a hard time accepting this view in the first place, but if you read about it it isn't that absurd actually. Remember...|||I don't dream much. When I was younger I dreamt more regularly and since that was really annoying and exhausting (this inner world on overdrive not at daytime alone but even during the nights) I...|||It's actually the other way around (maybe just a typo on your side):   Te users are concerned with logic and consistency of the outside world. That is why INTJs are concerned with efficiency, why...|||Aeriner: Forget about the letters, all that matters are functions:  Now, if you look at INFJ's and INTJ's functions (like, for example here), you notice that they differ:  INFJ: Ni Fe Ti Se|||Yeah, I would like to. I just can't find it in all of your about 20 posts in this thread. I find a lot of claims like science does this, science does that and a lot of implicit assumptions, claims...|||I'm in.|||Congratulations. Would have never dared to do that, I think.|||MindSlinger: Have you, at any point in this lurching discussion, given any definition of what that science is you're referring to? Because lightning up an empty term is really so easy...|||Sexual fantasies that are a little bit offside do not necessarily go hand in hand with psychological disorders, but if they do, this should definitively be discussed with a professional...|||I've never been heavily drunk am I'm not planning to (controll freak issues I figure), but when I drank moderately it's more like Elodin says: Not much of a change. Kind of scares other people...|||Depends. If the fantasies are somehow within the range of the normal weirdness that's going on in some BDSM communities and the like then I'd say you could try what you like. There are communities...|||If sex works inside the contructed reality of your mind it obviously is a place safe enough to just let go and enjoy whatever fantasy you like. You don't necessarily have to trust yourself...|||Just a suggestion: Find somebody you trust like you trust yourself. If you like the thought of sex inside your mind (where it is safe and you control what happens) you need to create an environment...|||I actually DO have a best friend whom I suspect to be INTP. He also is a physicist and beats me at chess every time (except when I open a good bottle of wine which trashes his Ti faster than my Ni it...|||Although this is probably right for some people, I never understood that. Why would someone like to be the like that? I have some expierence beeing that cold, cynical, reckless smart ass and it never...|||So there IS a list of reproducable criteria somewhere?|||Sparky The problem isn't that it is difficult to learn. I don't know much about quantum physics either and I know that it is freaking difficult to understand, but I still trust the results that...|||What I found is for example this short introduction: Socionics and Visual Identification of Types  The author him-/herself admits to the rather weak basis and the widespread dissent about facial...|||Sorry, not good enough, claims prove nothing. No clearly specified criteria, no empirical verification => method is arbitrary and anecdotic, lacks both reliability and validity and is therefore...|||If there isn't some evidence available, there is no point in guessing. :wink:|||Substantiations would be so cool.|||I listen to a broad spectrum, which includes some Metal but it isn't my  preference. I can't even say that I have a genre I'm totally into.   Isn't that quite a bit oversimplified? :wink:|||Saying that there are too many INTJs because of some hundred forum members who are supposedly INTJs is clearly a big underestimation of the number of people that there are.  There are 375 million...|||Someone's got issues with salvation fantasies...|||You're just scaring the hell out of me FlightsOfFancy. Apart from some details you describe my experiences precisely.   Yes, know that too... doubles the frustration, because it wasn't really...|||Always keep in mind that an opinion is a statistic with n=1, so not everyone shares this view. Though I like to be challenged, I prefer my partner to agree with me at least half of the time and in...|||For everyone who doesn't know the reference, this is the regarding scene:   http://youtu.be/rDuetklFtDQ?t=2m33s  edit: Ok, if this would work properly, the video should start at 2:33. Just drag...|||Be grateful that you have friends who tell you that! I'd give a lot for someone who'd point me in the right direction sometimes.|||I would also be a Ravenclaw, followed by Gryffindor and Hufflepuff with some distance, and Slytherin on the last rank. Maybe it's my enneagram and variant stacking that makes me just not enough an...'