'Just thought of another, when people try to win an arguement that happens to take place around other people via what i believe is call ad populum.|||I realize this but the problem is that many people think that this means no generalization to which a subset of snowflakes would belong applies to them. That their similarities with any onther...|||I have to admit it probably is the idea that they believe their own inconsistant logic that irks me.|||I may be wrong but I would think that INTJs would be among the least likely to be heavily laden with guilt. Then again maybe just less likely to realize it. Interesting.|||Criticisms are good but need contributions too : ).   And snowflakes are a good metaphor for people due precisely to the fact that like humans they are all differant in small ways but essentially...|||I know how you feel. I've been in that same spot for quite some time myself and am also trying to change it. It really does suck from someone like us to lose motivation because we kick the hell out...|||That human are somehow inherantly special. The fact the we are the most intelligent thing on this planet is no more evidence of this than 6 being the highest number on a normal die. Something has to...|||I like that movie but in reality in this day and age they would take his child. Im planning on getting my captains license and seeing if i enjoy that more before i take the drastic step of going...|||I would have to quit my job to go back to college. I work on a boat for a month at a time and unlike now we are normally moving and often times i dont even have internet access on my phone. Its not...|||Tbh i dont entirely trust currently taken personality tests as i do believe myself to be somewhat depressed and i believe that skews things some. As far as finding things morally repugnant, i dont...|||Just as an aside, your sig seems to indicate that you are more likely INTP as far as cog functions go.  They're never really accurate but it might be something to consider if you find that we are...|||Yea antidepressants are out of the question for the reasons stated above. As you pointed out, psychotherapy is proven generally more edfective than antidepressants. My job does keep me working with...|||You guys are peaking my interest in biochem lol. Never learned much about it but it is interesting. Would probably give me more ammunition when argueing against free will too lol|||I dont remeber which study it was right now or where i read it even but i seem to remeber reading that most anti-depressants had about the same success rate as a placebo with psychotherapy (talk...|||I have but its not often that i have trouble getting alone time when im at home and not possible to get it when im at work. In any case i dont mind people in small numbers most of the time but it...|||I agree it probably is diet / exercise related as both are poor as well as thinking habits. Cynical doesnt even come close sometimes but anyway yea dont take my critisisms too hard. Its in my nature...|||The reason a job change isnt feasible is because im the father of a 2 year old and this is the only job where im ever likely to make a 6 figure income without many years of collage. Im not making...|||Thanks for the thoughts Wolf but positive thinking isnt something that really works for someone like me....and positive thinking (or rather lack therof) is kinda the problem with depression. I could...|||Just looking for some advise from other similar personalities on my long standing but mild depression.  Its sapped my motivation and even dented my confidence. I have been down for several year...|||Close. I work for a tow boat company on the Mississippi, Illinois, and Ohio rivers. About to start working on getting my pilots license. Most of them net over 100k. I don't really care much about...|||I have tested INTJ or something near equivilent since highschool. (I'm 26 now) I did good early in school and consider myself relatively intelligent, though not exceptionally so. I stopped doing so...|||Agnostic because I simply do not know. I do find it highly improbable that any religion has an exactly correct grasp of what / who god is if one or more do exist.  I do think the morality taught in...|||I'm idealistic in my goals sometimes but rarely idealistic in my expectations, especially of others. As far as which particular ideal I hold at any given time, that changes a lot as I question,...|||I voted no because I do not like myself. Nor, however, do I dislike myself. I was not given something to compare myself to. I do believe a thing can exist with out anything else but in order to...|||I find that it is rarely this simple. There are almost always multiple gain and losses from each point of view for each individual potential action taken in any situation. After considering those,...|||Thanks for the thoughts guys. Keep em coming. (My phone won't let me hit the thank button) Will have more input myself when I have time.|||Elegantly put. I do often find myself stifling my feelings at times when I probably shouldn't as this situation does not require objectivity. I believe this is because I find it hard to think and...|||Another thought: does constantly striving to view situations involving people (and nessacerily, their feelings) from an objective standpoint negatively effect ones ablility to empathize. I ask this...|||These descriptions of situations are exactley indicative of what I'm talking about. I think a better title for this thread would have been the sociall effects of objectivity. I am trying to avoid...|||I see my question was poorly worded. I meant to ask for thoughts on an emphasis on objectivity and how it effects ones self as well as others in the different areas of life.  I realize my going off...|||I guess I should define objectivity as I understand it first. To my understanding it is to examine something without bias of any kind. That being stated, objectivity is something I strive to achieve...|||If I were to say that intuition is  subconscious intellectuall proccessing and thinking is the conscious version, would that be vaguely accurate?|||Well given that I think the universe is a causal one, I must admit that I'm not 100% sure of anything because I odviously don't know everything and anything might effect anything else but this is...|||On what I believe to be a similar note....anyone ever see a situation from so many different ( often times conflicting ) points of view that you become what I guess is entirely objective and cannot...|||On what I believe to be a similar note....anyone ever see a situation from so many different ( often times conflicting ) points of view that you become what I guess is entirely objective and cannot...|||Most of the time I can figure out where the connection came from in normal, everyday life. Its in abstract thought experiments and topics that I have little knowledge and understanding of (like...|||I could not have stated my thoughts on the matter any better. It's not a question of whether or not someone will betray, but under what circumstances or with what frequency they are likely to.|||Sometimes it seems that my intuition will make rather far fetched connections or what I guess u might call leaps of logic that are far beyond what I can process with conscious thought.  I find...|||Interesting thread. I also love to plan my conversations ahead of time, sometimes to the point of knowing which words I want to emphasize ( because they will likely lead the conversation down a...|||I find listening to other people tell each other those little lies that seem  to be expected of normal friends to be most annoying. Also watching someone  justify the act of a friend that they...'