'Oh, looked it up.  This was from the book, My Best Self: Using the Enneagram to Free the Soul by Kathleen V. Hurley.|||I read the book, My Best Self: Using the Enneagram to Free the Soul by Kathleen V. Hurley something to the effect that heart center types have the most difficulty understanding gut types, gut types...|||What do you want from me?-- SUCH an INTJ thing to say. (Adorbs). Happened to me just like this.|||I guess the answer then is no, to a degree.  It is just an annoyance for you.  Your Benefactor (in this system) would be ISTP... interesting.  All of that sounds pretty irritating and unpleasant. ...|||I've been hooked on Socionics recently. For those who know that system, INTp (INTJ) is the benefactor for INFj (often, INFP in MBTI). (I will refer to these types as INTJ and INFP rather than their...|||Nooo!  I think you are on to something and if I took a bit more time I think I could give you an adequate response, but I am supposed to be studying so I will just respond with where I am at right...|||Well hmm, that is intriguing!  I guess maybe it's a big topic, but.. how is fatalism sort of helping you (if that applies)?  I don't really think being either optimistic or pessimistic truly...|||Is a large part of you a pessimist?  If so, what are you pessimistic about?  Where does your optimism lie?   As for myself, I am an optimist when it comes to my ideals and the potential of people...|||Hello!  Haven't explored too much but curious if it is possible to see somewhere a list of all the threads I've started and posts I've written.  I'm trying to find a specific post I wrote in a very...|||I have read about the dreaded loops of other types, but wasn't sure if it was a thing for our type or not.  How would you characterize an Fi-Si loop for INFPs?|||Do some ISTPs have difficulty apologizing for things?  Of course that's human, but are there any ISTP stereotypes about lacking the will or ability to apologize?|||Hey ENFJs.  I am writing about someone I used to be friends with (until a few days ago).  So, it's not a relationship in that sense but just a friendship (we are both girls).  She is a 7w6.  I...|||I wrote something here... after a troubling interaction with my ENFJ friend, but then realized all of the faults I have and the way we miscommunicated and deleted it.  I just see my faults now.. and...|||This is good advice, maybe it was obvious and I just missed it.  thank you for spelling it out.  I feel this conversation can be over, but here are a few responses just because.  I hesitate to...|||Meh, nevermind.|||Do I feel emotionally conflicted?  Not really.  Do I still read the guy in some sexual ways?  Yes, but I feel it's slightly unwarranted and more due to the past.  The whole Se thing and noticing...|||Deleted.|||Deleted.|||Deleted.|||Hmm, this is interesting.  Well, (and Ix92m thinking of in particular at type 7 ENFJ friend I have), I often react to what I think is the moral position behind the statement, or the tone, or somethingx85...|||Going through other threads-- learned A LOT.  Things are getting much clearer.  Here are quotes I found interesting/helpful/amusing. Yes, this is true.  I will disagree with them because I don’t...|||Okay, I can see that.  It seems like they are independent enough almost to not care what anyone thinks of what they do.  But I imagine for a close friend or for a relationship it would be nice to...|||Deleted.|||Interesting.  How did you derive this being the fundamental desire?  Or like... can you say more on that?  You don't have to of course, but if you feel like sharing, I'd be very interested.  I really...|||Deleted.  Nevermind.|||Hey ISTPs!  I share a close relationship with an ISTP in my life and he won't be going away any time soon and I want some insight on them and maybe how they view INFPs so I can understand him better...|||I also had a kind of gross realization that I’m not proud to share having to do with…. well, one INFJ for sure.  She was a 5w4.  Another was a 4w5 but I don’t think it applies, or not half so much. ...|||This was really really awesome!!  And indeed pointed to many relevant issues.....  This was really very helpful.  I have a lot of pondering to do over this.  THANKS.   -------------General: ...|||I want to find or feel some sense of commonality with them.... To me, it is like an atmosphere.  But I don't ever feel they pick up or resonate with that atmosphere and consequently I don't feel...|||Hello INFJs!!!  I am… an INFP.  I feel like I communicate strangely to Fe types and I want to understand why that is or where the disconnect lies. What is your experience communicating with...|||How do yall manage routines (question mark) This keyboard is broken so i cant insert most punctuation. Basically, I cant keep a routine of any sort for the life of me.  That might have to do with...|||sogood -- I am still in the middle of your post but it's very clear that the INFP person you are referring to is an Enneagram type 4.  I'm not sure if you know or are interested in that system of...|||Thanks everyone, so much for your responses.  For some reason, I was expecting criticism (?) or something negative.  Haha!!!  You are guys are supportive and helpful.  Thank you.Thanks, I think an...|||THANK YOU.  I like this response.  Or I mean, it is hopeful, MORE than hopeful.  [One thing] it tells me is that all this is some kind of cognitive dissonance on my part that could possibly be...|||Due to cognitive differences or WHATEVER, I did NOT feel adequately seen as a child.  I developed almost a second identity or way of presenting myself so that I could get the attention that I felt I...|||Hello, first off, I wanted to say that this was pretty embarrassing for me to write.  It’s embarrassing to express to others how weak I [sometimes] feel inside.  I wanted to post to help get over my...|||Are you okay?  We are reading and here for you ficsci.|||Often, when I feel like I am not connecting with someone but desperately want to (maybe in a clingy way or maybe because I deeply care about them or want to figure them out/who they are/how they...|||I haven't read the other posts yet but I have noticed that Fi-users can be surprisingly cliquish for all their supposed good intentions.  I think this can come off as highly judgmental from one...|||Yeah, I feel like I end, like a piece of meat.  (I think I am groveling over my female status.)|||My mother is for sure a 7w8 sp/sx, with a strong 6 wing as well, but 8 dominant.  I am not really sure if she is ENTP or ESTP. I keep going back and forth between the two. It is hard especially to...|||I would want these qualities too-- I mean, if I was feeling like I wasn't achieving my goals or I was shy or hesitant, I'd hope to develop this part of myself as well.  They are attractive qualities,...|||I am quite effected by everything in my environment. One negative thing a person says to me can get stuck in my head all day. (Strong Fi here at play)  But, I realized that I start to conk out in a...|||Relate to this sooooo much!!!!!!|||Does any of you feel like this? Do you feel you are so detached, reserved, distant that it affects your ability to make and sustain relationships? What do you do about it?   Yes, I can feel these...|||Thanks!  I guess I should have inferred that it was SPD that is meant by psychosis.  Psychosis is a pretty strong word.  I always thought of psychosis as an extreme and distinct state but maybe it...|||mirrorghost:  I like this bit on introjection from Naranjo's, Character & Neurosis:  In my experience the dominant defense mechanism in ennea-type IV is distinctly introjection, the operation of...|||What are real-life examples of psychosis that an unhealthy type 5 might experience?|||In no way am I calling myself healthy but I do SEE and have intimations of my health as feeling this way.  bemusement is such a great way to put it.  I end up laughing at myself, and the irony...|||Wow, I really relate to this, too.  My melancholy is so strong because I feel drifting... unable to communicate, even though I feel I have a strong message.  (misunderstood genius thing going on ...'