'Very interesting point, and one that I've considered before. I agree that just because you can't express your idea well, doesn't make you wrong by necessity. But you also must consider that if you...|||That's like asking, Do normal people experience universe?  Try, Do INTPs experience a paracosm? or live in a paracosm?  Sorry for being pedantic. I'm leaving..|||Do you think some people have teeth? Yes, but what's your point? Do you think some ENTPs are assholes? Some of any group of people are going to be assholes.|||Nope, you didn't read my post.|||That's where I fit into more of a J mentality, though I am a good listener and desire to have someone challenge me to the point that they change my mind. But I do have an agenda and a strategy and am...|||My scores are very mixed up.   I'm talking about any kind of conversational conflict. I tend not to talk about anything inconsequential with people and stick to talking about religion, scientific...|||I like the sound of  your type 8 theory. I'll look into those again and report my findings.|||I'm an INTP, or at least I've thought I was for a while. I've been doing some reading into ENTJs and, though I feel very introverted generally, I am very stimulated by verbal conversation -- really,...|||Right, so that's the end of our conversation.|||Well aside from the Ad Hominem logical fallacy derivation poisoning the well you're using with the avatar comment, this post still just seems to be lashing out at me for not agreeing with you. I...|||The theory that the Earth was flat was never a fact, though people incorrectly thought it so. But we were talking about words which have meaning that we gave them, so there's nothing to dispute. But...|||And I think I've made a fairly good case that metaphors necessitate interpretation and thus cannot be objective.|||I agree with this, but I would point out that I have a great intuitive sense, but I never use it even a little bit on definitive matters of thought. We must strive to be exact when charting undefined...|||You making this about my Ti use or your ENFPness doesn't excuse your imprecise language. It is not only language because that's the only way you can convey your ideas. If you know what you mean you...|||Obviously, literally, necessarily some things must be left undone. Through non-action, certainly nothing is physically done by the non-doer and anything that is done around him/her cannot be credited...|||My introduction is far from clutter. The language is dense to fit as much meaning as possible into as small a space as possible. If you dispute that, quote the parts of my intro you disagree with or...|||I'm not sure how this could be the interpretation. I have written out my thoughts for anyone to dissect, ridicule or discuss; if people disagree with me and I counter-reason, that is the nature of...|||You are welcome to stop posting, but I reason in a very firm way and it may seem obstinate, but I don't yield simply because someone tries hard to change my mind or tries to find a middle ground....|||Excuse me, but the mere fact that I disagree with you and require an actual answer to a problem, even if the answer is that it is unknowable, doesn't give you the right to use ad hominem attacks to...|||I enjoy and respect Sam Harris, but his take on objective morality was fallacious sadly. He (and you) posed an objective moral and practical scale on a subjective goal or ethical eventuality. I think...|||You are correct, but missing the point. Time is finite in either direction.|||Right, which leaves us with a problem of proof. Recognizing this, for the person wanting to prove objective morality, puts all of their work ahead of them.|||I do this all the time, only out loud (to the chagrin of my girlfriend).|||But not of objectivity. But in fact it was also revolving around a subjective truth.|||This is the sort of thing that sounds very deep, but must imply individual subjective interpretation. Do nothing, accomplish everything. Obviously that isn't literal, so, if you would, flesh out this...|||It gave me ISTP. I'm really not an ISTP.|||It does look to be a groovy set of texts even though it teaches divination (which is a mystic practice of super-naturalistic quality) which hardly gives me more confidence in its wisdom. Apart from...|||I actually assert that there can't be objective morality and that we need a better word to describe our desire for it. Even with god, the morality he gives us is subjective as he is the subject.|||This is the very essence of subjective morality.  You, the subject, have come up with your criteria for a morality.|||Well the religious use both objective morality as the reason for god and god as the reason for objective morality. It's circular and thoughtless.|||In fact my point is that whether or not you believe in a god, the existence of moral relativism isn't an argument in your favor. It doesn't prove anything.|||Ok, now I'm respecting you a little less because you're just saying words now. This is completely contrary to reality. Neuroscientists champion the concept of determinism which moves seamlessly...|||You are very right, and thank you for posting against the majority; respectable.   Morality must exist? Why must it?   Well what is right differs from culture to culture and century to...|||Oh, I do not imagine nor claim that the average IQ is declining, but the social script, at least in America, dictates that you have an opinion that no one can question, and if their beliefs are...|||The more international debaters I watch the more I think I could agree, but I do see a disparateness of social convention in Americans as a doggedness in holding beliefs. But, I am from America and I...|||I agree, but you must also be open to entirely changing your position. Going into a debate knowing that you're right is entirely fatuous. You may be very confident, but should never, in any...|||What do you DECIDE to NATURALLY do? Conflict with yourself semantically? Yes.|||The point of a discussion is to argue for what you've reasoned and learned from books. What you just posted was intellectual laziness and authoritativeness in the same place.|||Seen it twice. Sam Harris is wonderful, as are Dawkins, Hitchens and Dennett. These public and formal debates often lead to the opponents speaking past each other and I would much rather a repartee...|||The state of American debate form has devolved  and been watered down to stating a point and changing it every time  it's attacked until the end where you just restate yourself after having ignored...|||I do no propose to be able nor will anyone  truly be able to disprove the existence of any supernatural being or  concept, in no small part due to the flexible and subjective nature to  which these...|||TNIP for me. I'm a Global Paradox apparently. I can boil anything down into a single insult.|||my reference was fine, my spelling was off.|||She is an INFJ|||I've got more!  Eddie Izzard Tyler, the Creator|||You know, I could see this whole thing in the voice of George Castanza|||I go by different things based on the mood of the site i'm on.   Gamer tags / gamer sites, I'm SlashRaid. <- came up with it so I could know that no one else would have it and it wouldn't need...|||How do you get a pic to display here?|||Filling in blanks in your mind like that; Freud would have a field day with you.|||http://www.flickr.com/photos/79085275@N06/7077906799/  http://www.flickr.com/photos/79085275@N06/7077906799/  I can't see the picture, so I linked it above.  I had a very GeekTool'd up version,...'