'LOL...I think ISFJ's are commonly considered martyr-ish. I have seen the word martyr pop up in some of the descriptions.|||148770|||This made me chuckle, it is so telling of our differences. I literally just had a very similar conversation with my ISTJ when we went to look at apartments. I told him that I needed to be able to...|||I love your eyes...and you are beautiful! The short hair looks great.|||Your temperament is phlegmatic. The phlegmatic temperament is fundamentally relaxed and quiet, ranging from warmly attentive to lazily sluggish. Phlegmatics tend to be content with themselves and are...|||Thanks! And you definitely should post your own. It's always good to put a face with a name/avatar.|||Also, I just noticed that with the typings as I did them, it makes sense why Roslin-Adama would work easier as a couple than Lee-Starbuck. R-A share 3/4 preferences, while L/S only share 1 or...|||I just saw this. I know Samwise Gamgee is my Avatar, but I think I identify with either Ted Moseby from How I Met Your Mother or Elsa from Frozen when I'm in a bad place. I think all three probably...|||I am resurrecting this thread, because BSG is awesome. Enough said. I think it's tough to type some of the characters since a lot of them are military...which seems like it would be an SJ...|||I tend to do terribly at a new venture until I have been able to work out a system that functions well for me. Learning from others doesn't always help either, since I am a hands-on learner and...|||Thanks for adding the bit about subjective versus objective functions. I am really interested in this stuff, but I have yet to actually buy a book to delve into it fully. I think that makes sense,...|||This sounds a lot like some of the experiences I have had. Although I think being thrown into something actually works well for me, as long as people don't expect me to be perfect at first. I think...|||This sounds a lot like some of the experiences I have had. Although I think being thrown into something actually works well for me, as long as people don't expect me to be perfect at first. I think...|||Absolutely. Because we are very conscious of how others will perceive us, we try to project an image of ourselves to the outside world that is calm and level-headed. Inside, it it most definitely a...|||Hi fellow ISFJ's! If any of you read some of my more emo posts from the past month, you know I have been going through a difficult situation with unpacking my relationship with my grad school field...|||Congrats on the honor! Practice, practice, practice. That is the only way I would get through a speech like that.|||I feel awful for your coworker. I can only imagine how deeply he is trapped in his own thoughts if it has gone on for this long. I think the Si/Fe combination is very difficult under stress, which...|||I thought about that, too. If I ever made it to a CEO or ownership position, I would feel obligated to pay all employees fair wages and only take a livable, but not exorbitant, salary for myself. But...|||Agreed. I thought about this pretty much as soon as I posted. I would have so many problems firing people unless there was a strict code of conduct in place. Everyone has something to work on.|||Also, you are much more decisive than I am, due to both to my inferior Ne and aux Fe.|||Hello, ISTJ's. I know our types are rather similar, and I'm dating one of you. I personally admire your adherence to logic and your work ethic. My feelings/emotions get in the way of things far too...|||That's definitely your Fe at work. We try to please others, whether it's by means of humor or by catering to their expressly stated or unstated needs. Because we are more reserved and introverted...|||This is only a half-serious post, but I was thinking about the state of the world - very macro and meta, I know - and I was wondering what it would be like if healthy (although I don't like that...|||I just rewatched Frozen, and I'm ready to recruit Elsa to the ISFJ team. I've seen her typed as INFJ...but, really? She is super indecisive and terrified of expressing herself because she how her...|||Not me, but I work on it. I think Si has a lot of potential for pessimism as life goes on and we reflect on the past. It sometimes feels like I'm fighting it constantly, but I remind myself to choose...|||It's hilarious that both you and Candijoy would choose invisibility. Every time I take a stupid online quiz to waste time, I always pick invisibility as a superpower. *Cue eerie music.* ISFJ thing?|||Totally agree with the dislike of conversation dominating behavior. Also, people who like to find metaphors in everything. Not that that's a bad thing...unless they then also dominate the...|||I very much agree! Disagreements and misunderstandings are between two individuals, I just like MBTI as an organized framework within which to conceptualize differences in thinking. It works for me,...|||My main reason for not typing her ISTJ is that I'm in a relationship with an ISTJ, and I haven't had many problems understanding his thought processes. He might not show as much emotion as I do, but...|||Thanks for the uplifting post! I like the positive approach to Si, which I agree is undervalued. This last part sounds like something I wrote in a different post. I feel like society is constantly...|||Oh, also, I think MBTI holds a lot of promise for me because, while it is a theory, it sets very concrete rules and it's very organized when compared to typical theories in academia, which just...|||Since I need to reflect on things to find the right wording a lot of the time, it's easiest for me to be persuasive via writing rather than speaking where I'm put on the spot. I think that's an...|||This could definitely be why I picked up on her frustrated emotional state. As a first time student and someone who needs to think things over and doesn't have confidence in his abilities until he...|||I think that makes a lot of sense, but in my situation, there is a power imbalance rather than the relative equality of a coworker relationship. This made it difficult for me to confront her more...|||Thanks everyone for the responses. I'm glad I got to voice the details of the situation, since I am generally self-deprecating and, when faced with repeated criticism without the ability to distract...|||General trolling, mayhaps? Anti-sensing bias? I say we call a witch-hunt!  Just kidding of course...IDK.|||I love it. Great examples of our goofy sense of humor.|||I think it's a very ISFJ thing to self-blame, so yes. I often have to go back and forgive myself for things, and usually get exterior reinforcement for my internal ideas since I don't trust my own...|||Thank you both for reading and responding, and thank you for your supportive responses. I'm sure I frustrated her as much as she frustrated me. Sorry I need so much external reinforcement for what...|||Hello, INTJ forum!  Before I write this let me first preface with a caveat: I think you are all brilliant (your minds work so fast and you always know what to do) and you more often than not have...|||That is a pretty astute observation.  Yes, this has definitely been me from time to time with extreme extroverts (most recently an ENFJ). But I would say if the friendship is strong enough, I am...|||My confession is that I love ISFP's. My younger brother is one of you and we have always gotten along. He is always relaxed, friendly, fair, and has a great live and let live attitude. I try to...|||This made me laugh, thanks for putting it so bluntly. I agree totally. After I originally reached out with these threads I did more introspecting, took more tests, and thought about it. I think when...|||114546 Me and my ISTJ partner...I'm on the left. I figured I would include him because he's cute and also hates pictures candijoy :tongue: 114554 114562 I think I was really tired here...or my...|||I'm not sure I could ever hate anyone who has a P in their personality type. I love open-minded people and I strive to open my mind more all the time. Flexibility is so important and awesome!|||I just realized that when I posted, I absolutely did not respond to the main question posed in the thread. Oops.  I am not sure how similar this is for most people, but I always have to ground the...|||Ted from How I Met Your Mother?  I have to confess, I didn't read through the whole thread, so I'm sorry if someone already posted it! I have seen him typed differently, but I think he has all the...|||I'm really sorry this happened to you. It does have the feeling of a right place, wrong time situation to me. The best thing you can do is be good to yourself, and unfortunately only you can decide...|||When I used to play WoW, I was usually a tank/warrior. Partially because I felt like being a mage was what everyone else wanted to do, so I had this internal dialogue about how I was somehow being...|||I find that the last part of this is always the most important for me. I think that may be a reflection of my security-seeking 6 enneagram, though. I make mental notes of what feels subjectively...'