'Dear ESFP ex-bff,  You are an asshole.|||This seems to be a very sensitive nerve among ISTJs. Being taken advantage of is my Mom's (ISTJ) greatest worry/stress point as well.|||A horrible chore. And I have learned if you don't keep up appearances it makes people think you dislike them. Except in my reality... I don't dislike people (most are quite fascinating, especially...|||I have an ISFP sister too, and relating to her can be quite difficult at times. I think it is our Ti/Fe and Fi/Te, which makes us evaluate situations very differently. When I come across an issue, I...|||Dear xNTJ,  I understand that you have been patient, kind and understanding as possible in the situation. And that you're doing what you can given the circumstances. However, I told you from the...|||So I'm not abnormal... an INTJ friend found it odd that I do such and it made me question myself...  I think I do it because my thoughts can get too jumbled so speaking or writing gives clarity and...|||I'd suggest make sure what you're doing for yourself, is actually for yourself. Not to get the attention of other people or others approval. I've noticed that with myself. When I do things for the...|||Cupcakes!|||I'm not like that at all. On the contrary, everyone body will be blending in with each other and I'm just like, NO. I'm the outcast among outcasts. I don't even non conform for the sake of...|||I don't plan for the future, I plan for pitfalls and how to tackle problems if the arise. I plan in a way that allows me to bend and have wiggle room.|||I wants to learn. Soon... soon...|||'No mind' is what you're getting at yes? Being one with the external world and not bogged down by your thoughts and over analyzing? Being in the zone.  Yes yes. I have those moments. They can be...|||I really should learn that I should stop helping people that are simply and utterly stuck in their own ways. What a waste of energy.|||Mmm, I agree with Seralya. I think the major problem is that we don't know what you want out of this thread. You ask for a conversation about an ISTP's ability to have an abstract conversation but...|||I use to think running on four cups of coffee per day was a bad thing. Now that I've become such I have changed viewpoints. Ah.. experience and reshaping the mind. Jazzy.|||Actually I can understand!  I've been in your boat in quite a few of my relationships, including my longest recent one (two years) with an ESTP.  The ESTP I was with is brilliant; but it is just...|||Chapter 10 from Psychological Types by C. G. Jung is just so damn negative. And convoluted none the less. Uggh.|||I read so much when I was little that I've kinda gotten sick of reading lengthy pieces of work. I can finish full books every now and then, but I usually just randomly read chunks at a time these...|||Actually express deeper more complex emotions... every now and then. Or socially retarded large bursts of them.  Yeah...|||I've been slowly keeping up with this topic and from what I can tell, he's not the problem. Pardon me for being blunt but the way you discuss things shows. A lot of the other ISTPs here are giving...|||I don't care how wide or deep the emotional river runs I ain't going backwards in life. Though I may end up as a sloth while trying to sort the damn emotional currents out.   *Sloth behavior...|||Haha. An ENTJ I know hates when I go all existentialist on him. I think Te may actually interact with Ti in an ambivalent way. But then again Fe does do that to Fi when I think about it...  Hmm...|||Disease (that isn't even worthy of being called that),  Your petty ways to make yourself feel morally superior, and in turn try to use such against me in the future marks one as unwise and at worse...|||Burn them. Burn them all.  I'm in the process of quite a few. Meh.|||So far the ones I've met really want to get to know me for some strange reason. But they are aware enough to give me my space and don't poke at me. Then get all excited when I do give them attention.|||Intuition is just getting a 'general sense' of something, not concrete details. The problem with some intuitive doms is that they act prematurely upon their intuition compared to being patient enough...|||I feel 'fake' by just posting here, since I can't relate to Ne and the question was posed to INTPs. But with that said, I too as an introverted thinker can't stand trying to sell something I know...|||ISTJ mother; ENTJ father  The large degree of strictness caused heavy introversion and extreme Ti-Ni looping, and an underdeveloped Se. It's why I appear intuitive/judger despite not being such.|||You really shouldn't be too hard on yourself. No one is perfect, or even the perfect socialite (especially us ISTPs). We can only give you an objective as possible opinions based off the information...|||Apparently we do not have the same point of view. Intentions and motivations are quite important in discussing the maturity of one's actions. I sincerely hope you can take my bluntness with ease for...|||I think the ISTP duality comes from the fact that we are both long term thinkers (understanding a system in detail then making efforts to improve and make the system more efficient) as well as...|||I too don't know this overt flirting thing you speak of. I only start flirting (in a reserved intellectual and or sexual manner) after I get to know a bit about the object of my affection and have...|||I'd be thinking, OMG get the fuck out of my bubble bitch and I would be giving the death stare. But... such is my reaction to the sentence, particularly the word 'authoritative'.  I don't know...|||Daft Punk|||The fine line between aggression and submission is called being confident and assertive. Grace and tact, while holding your moral ground (whatever it may be). Being flexible in understanding and...|||Yeah, I have a problem of talking too fast. My mind is going faster then what I can get out.|||Yeah this. Even though I may be heavily introverted and reserved in my interactions, I too work better out in the open. I vibe off busy and 'get shit done' energies.|||I really do enjoy play fighting.|||Could you please tell me exactly what you would do and what you would think in this situation (the more detailed the better)?  Let's say you're in a room with a guy who claims he has got super...|||I love dancing. It is freeing.|||Mocha coffee and amaretto|||Dear ESFP,  I like how you can get me out of my turtle shell. I can't even been to express my gratitude.|||I prefer RPGs, and so does an ISFP gamer I know.   I like the sense of adventure and multitude of things to do (little side quests). Though the ISFP likes getting to the end first then exploring...|||I'm in the same boat and I usually can handle a pretty decent level of abstractness. I'm slowly plodding through the enneagram. More so in a practical manner of 'How is this going help me and what...|||I like drinking. And I think the real world sucks and like my head far better. Which probably isn't a healthy thought on my part. And I probably shouldn't drink and post.  ... *random thoughts* ...|||Yep, I'm pretty sure I'm a hundred percent crazy and I have learned to love it. It also frightens me at times.  Even with that said I still keep a great deal of the crazy to myself and tend to...|||Laeona: I just got out of a very deep and loving relationship of 2 years this past October. I have not even begun to understand the depths of my broken emotional state and I have no interest in...|||No, it is not a matter of me ignoring my emotions. It is that a feeler is projecting their emotions upon me and the only way to communicate effectively is by expressing how I feel about the...|||I hate when logic dictates that being vulnerable and connecting on an emotional level is the solution. Shoot me now.|||The individual in question socializes quite well with all other individuals in our small group. And considering they are the head leader it is their job to engage with their employees to a degree...'