'When I saw the thread title I immediately wondered if it was an INFJ posting it.  The INFJ in my life (family member/friend) is always talking about being understood, and saying that I dont...|||Up until 6th grade all my teachers liked me. My 6th grade teacher and I butted heads all the time. Though to be honest, retrospectively I think he still might have liked me. Maybe he saw my...|||Yes. This is an excellent point.  I use logic to make decisions.  But part of my logic is how will the decision make each person in the relationship feel.  When it comes to relationships, how you...|||I tend to say I'm good at analyzing people as opposed to reading people. I am very good at rapidly collecting data from body language, things said, and combining it with info I already have. I tend...|||I took dancing lessons as a very small child.  I am terrible...no coordination, no rhythm. I'm not even big on listening to music. Sometimes I can enjoy jumping around by myself being silly. But I...|||I'm a Physical Therapist. I really enjoy it overall. There is a lot of opportunity to apply analytical skills and creativity.  It's very flexible for my current life stage. (I'm also a mom of 2 kids,...|||I probably talk about my husband quite a bit. But not like you describe. It really depends who Im talking to. I have  2 friends who I'm quite close to. Both are married and we kind of share a lot...|||Like most replies, I am not great at making friends, but can be extraverted enough to connect.  But yes I fade.  Take away proximity, and maintaining relationships becomes a struggle.  Now that I am...|||This person sounds like an addict with some emotional issues.  It doesn't sound like you are strong enough to be of help to him. Not your fault, you are young and have your own life issues to deal...|||I have an ESTP brother as well.  He made my life miserable from 6th grade until he left for the army when I was 17.  I think I struggle with his personality type because the similarity to his...|||I can't be bothered to research everything.  But I verify before I repeat or act on a claim. And I will also verify if things interest me, bease i enjoy and lean a lot from rand on research.   Yes...|||I'm not shy, I'm just introverted.  I am comfortable with myself and have fairly good confidence.  I like to express my ideas.  But I can only tolerate interacting with so many people directly.  When...|||I started to not fit in as early as third grade. I felt this was primarily because of my high intelligence and my no-nonsense yet day dreamy personality. I was happy to be different, but did start to...|||I wonder if it's a common INTJ problem, the tension between wanting to rearrange life and do something new, and the desire to work the plan as efficiently as possible.  I know whenever I see...|||I love to study history. I listen to Yale history courses instead of the radio. I read lots of books about history. I find the cycles of history and culture fascinating.  Everything is connected....|||I think this is interesting. The first panel, if it just said,  sorry I'm late, Id have no problem with it. In fact I think it is better than thank you for your patience because how do you know...|||Wow, this is just so similar to what i see happening with my friend, and even how my husband was.  So for the OP, I guess a tell might be that an ISFJ takes a long time to make a move and waits till...|||Yeah, this is my theory actually. Supposedly He didn't want to date until he graduated and had a a job. He has had a job for several months, but it is really intense and he is still learning it....|||So is this an ISFJ thing?   It took my ISFJ husband almost 3 yrs to ask me out, (though he didn't really ask even..)  I am currently almost absolutely certain that an isfj guy I know is very...|||I find this discussion fascinating. I've done a lot of thinking on these topics and have yet to come to any good conclusions. I come from a fairly conservative background, and still maintain somewhat...|||Not one friendship ever seems a bit extreme. INTJ is not synonymous with social cripple.  But I doubt very many INTJ's have an abundance of close friends.  Im a nice person. I have a lot of friendly...|||I was extremely talkative as a child.  So I didn't come across as an introvert.  Yet I spent hours playing alone, because I liked to.  A lot of my play was making up stories inside my head where I...|||I think viewing INTJ as goal driven can be confusing in our achievement oriented, ambitious society.  I am not achievement oriented or ambitious particularly.  And I too thought briefly I was INTP. ...|||I'm not an ISFJ.  But coming from a non-fe perspective:   Aren't you doing something for him by traveling to see him and maintaining the relationship? If someone comes to visit me its huge. I...|||Have you read the thread?  In a nutshell: People are much more important than their feelings.  Feelings can often be temporary, and irrational.  They also can be counterproductive to achieving what...|||So we pretty much had the consensus  of everyone who replied to the thread, including of a variety of people who identify as INTJ's at least 2 INFP's and one ISFJ.  Frankly no one disagreed but the...|||See this is another problem. You somehow assume that my asking you to value this guy's marriage relationship, is a reflection of my view of the world. I said nothing about my view of the world. You...|||See this is a huge part of the problem. Your views on marriage are completely irrelevant to the situation, as well as pretty much everyone's replies.  But you keep bringing them up. The fact that you...|||I can get out of my comfort zone without tip toeing on  the edge of morality.  So don't try to say you are getting him to fully live by getting him to take risks with his marriage. The risks are...|||Yes. My dad is an ISTJ. He is very much an If it's not broken, don't fix it. kind of guy.  If it is broken he is great at fixing it and is very resourceful.  I tend to desire to optimize and...|||This is interesting. I have heard the everybody's life looks too perfect on social media thing before.  Honestly I assumed it was my personality that kept me from caring about that, My ability to see...|||Yes, I assume everyone's emotional landscape is complicated.  So it is hard to know how to empathize without lots of information. Even for me for those I'm close to at times.  For example my close...|||I understand why you are so sad. Actually seems much more considerate to me than I'm sorry for your loss.  To me I'm sorry for your loss is one of those meaningless, something you say because you...|||I think I could feel sad with someone if I tried.  But I don't understand why I should try and carry all that sadness around inside of me.  Especially of I am not close to that person and have no way...|||Yes, when I try to evoke emotions for someone's situation it causes all kinds of problems.  If I get my head into their situation emotionally, then their emotions change it is very frustrating. So...|||The bold is a major reason I am so thankful for my husband!  All those practical details my brain just misses.  As a female INTJ it is very helpful to have a husband with really good domestic skills....|||I have seen your posts a lot before. It is so clear that you have a great relationship with your girlfriend.  My ISFJ and I will celebrate our 18th anniversary in a few weeks, and we are still a...|||This is definitely the tricky part.  This unloading negative energy thing is really hard on me.  I have figured out that I deal with my negative  feelings by putting them through a validation...|||What would you want them to know about relating to you?  I finally typed my husband, with his cooperation.  He is a clear ISxJ, but finally solidified the F. I've always realized he was better at...|||If you can handle it without being pushy, or too obsessive, you can probably  try to be friends.  Be honest with him how you feel.  He may have legit reasons for needing to be single. Or he may be...|||Please, I hope not.  I seriously doubt he is an introvert.|||I think part of it is that NFJ don't understand how deeply NTJ's actually feel.  See I do prove my feelings to myself. An initial feeling is like raw data. (Sometimes can ilicit a physical response....|||I think this where you dont understand us and might want to work on understanding.   If you let me be right when you know I'm wrong you are not demonstrating to me that you value my friendship. You...|||I don't know if it is arrogance and conceit.  We are both rare personality types.  And I don't think it is because we are so special. But because though we are necessary, we are only needed in the...|||This has a ton of helpful stuff in it!  I love the may I make a suggestion bit.  I was interesting my friend would tell me all these problems she had. So therefore I would offer possibilities to deal...|||Yes, this whole idea that because I believe what I think is true is true, and won't change it for the sake of harmony, I therefore am pushing my agenda. Which I find fascinating, because generally...|||This really resonates, drives my husband crazy. I am always pointing out the logical and scientific flaws in TV and movies. They just pop out of my mouth..I am trying to learn to think them...|||Thanks! I absolutely adore my INFJ, she is one of my favorite people to be around.  And we find that on one level we really can get each other. Then our Fe Te clashes. But,  I actually enjoy...|||The not emotionally truthful sounds definitely more INFJ. I am very close to an INFJ, and she is a strange puzzle of hidden emotions, and frequently expressed emotional responses that aren't always...|||This totally cracked me up, because the part in parenthesis is so true!       And for boy enfp. INTJ women are perfectly capable of being loving, affectionate and fun, especially in an intimate...'