'After several years of studying socionics, i am tentatively suspecting i may be ESE (not sure though). I'd self-typed IEE for a long time, however, over time situations of lack of resonance with...|||I want to know everything!|||I know it's a clinical matter. I was just responding to your post about Ni, which wasn't clear to me in the first place how it tied in to this topic. But I had to correct your fallacies.   Also...|||VERY interesting. I am the same way with unrequited love.  Oh and, I feel the same about verbalizing I love yous.|||Not sure what you mean by in the grip.  Socionics ESTp's are incapable of Ni but secretly wish they were and admire anyone who uses a lot of it. It's their dual seeking function. Ne is ESTp's...|||According to socionics, if you meet a socionics INFp (IEI) he or she will give you that reason to live, and show you some meaning to your life. When you find him or her, you will find happiness. So,...|||No problem!! I love your spelling btw!! :tongue:|||scuse me, I'm a she:tongue:. But thank you, I feel that is quite a compliment. I've been fascinated by an ESTP for the past 6 months, and much of his character traits that I've observed seem to be...|||I disagree with this. ESTPs' hidden agenda is to be loved. They know what love is, better perhaps than anyone else. The problem is that they want to be loved sincerely and deeply, not superficially....|||I'm like that too! And I'm INFJ. I get really stressed out though so I'm trying to change that about myself.|||I know I was being semi-facetious!  I instinctively put up walls when i'm cautious about situations that could potentially be emotionally hurtful, which I agree has been quite the handicap for me...|||I agree, and ESFPs touch people more ( in a huggy way).   Of those I know of each type to illustrate the difference  ESTP guy -- would poke my shoulder with one finger when passing by; I also...|||Is your wife INFP or INFJ? How did your relationship start out? I mean, how did you make it a relationship? How did it happen? Also what was tentative about it for you at first?   And I know ESTPs...|||I'm INFp and I question guys' motives. ESPECIALLY when I'm dealing with an ESTP. You're just gullible Bluebird, probably not type related (maybe more age related as that sounds like something I may...|||Yeah i guess the challenge is to find an ESTP who has reached a certain maturity level where he doesn't feel like being a playa anymore.|||Yeah we're making this a secret thread just for us NFs. Our little enclave here on the ESTP board. :wink:|||Well I apologize for lecturing, seems like you've already had some experience with socionics. I actually had a lot of fun writing those posts and hopefully they'll be useful to others on this forum....|||OrangeAppled obviously does not see what I see in ESTp's.  ESTp's actually appear cold. Their outgoing nature and social charm, while friendly, is not warm like that an ENFj's or ESFj's. Their...|||Socionics is a bit complicated to understand initially, but I find it much more accurate in describing and helping me understand interpersonal relationships. MBTI does not emphasize this and should...|||Socionics typing should not rely on the test--the test can be pretty inaccurate. Did you also read the INFj descriptions? because seriously, a lot of what you said above sounds VERY INFj (even down...|||Interestingly, the ESTP girl I know also walks in a leisurely way. Maybe it's a male vs female thing. All the ESTP guys I know or have talked to online walk like energizer bunnies.|||I hear what you guys are saying. I do. And i've felt the same downsides of ESTp's. The difference is, I admire them for the characteristics these flaws embody (i.e. absolute social genius, total...|||OK, so you feel that Ni as defined by socionics is your primary conscious function?  ( Introverted intuition - Wikisocion )  And Fe is your auxiliary?  ( Extroverted ethics - Wikisocion )  If...|||How is it wack? I find it AMAZINGLY accurate.|||So what do you do when you actually feel attracted to someone? How do you make it known?|||You guys seem to be forgetting the fact that socionics types and MBTI types do not necessarily correlate.   To find out your socionics type, you have to read a bunch of socionics descriptions by...|||we're just really chill people. . .:wink: And we think about life while we walk, at least i do. . .   I have been known to speed up when ESTP is walking with me. :tongue:  And obviously if i'm...|||I was just re-reading this thread and wanted to comment on this post.  You make an interesting point about Ni/Se possibly clashing while Fe and Ti interacting online seem to be enjoyable for you...|||True it's just natural everyday behavior for you ;)|||you two are so funny!!!  :laughing:|||I apologize, I think i was unclear. I didn't mean to harp on the manipulation aspect. Heck I do that too. I'm just saying if you try to get the girl to confess her feelings, you're not going to find...|||Ha well, you are going to have a lot of trouble scoring those INFJ females then if that's how you handle potential love interests. I have been known to make subtle moves, and even did once confess my...|||Is this true for the guy ESTPs too? They always seem so confident and have high self-esteem!|||You could still be a socionics INFp though which would still make ESTp your duals. Posted via Mobile Device|||Aww why'd you erase your post! I liked it. . .  In fact I agree with you. The ESTP I know has beautiful eyes. But they are not piercing. They are intense but soft and caring.|||So true, to both!!  The one ESTP i know said he would come to a big lecture I gave, and a few days after he said he would come, he even joked that he would ask me some tough questions. Well it...|||But do you like us just because you know we like you?  What do ESTPs think of our lack of confidence? How about our awkward way of expressing ourselves verbally? How about our slowness and...|||No the ESTP I know is not canadian. Interesting how well these personality type theories work (especially when it's a good type fit).   And yes I do believe INFJ and ESTP are duals per socionics if...|||I know an ESTP just like that! Same guy??|||i guess mine weren't that impressive :/|||by the way another thing I observed about this ESTP was that he's so QUICK! I'll be walking in my relaxed, dreamy pace, and he'll catch up to me and pass me just walking. Like, our paces are...|||what about the INFJ social awkwardness, reclusivity, contentment with just sitting there, and the way we can be spacey? How about our slow walking pace?  How do you guys see that? Often I feel like...|||thanks for confirming to me that he's an ESTP(I typed him based on my insights working with him). There's no mistaking it reading the descriptions, but I started second-guessing myself recently. and...|||Well there is one in particular i'm interested in. . .well, i'm trying to decide whether or not i'm interested in him, probably for the same reasons you dont like ESTP (they're my socionics duals...|||ESTPs and INFJs are so different. You guys are social bundles of energy, we are slothlike recluses.   what do you ESTPs  think of us INFJs? What do you like or dislike about us?|||I noticed the characteristic in bold in the ESTP guy I worked with. He worked really hard to hide his true self from the public, his true self being kind, good natured, well meaning, thoughtful,...|||If this is a common ESTP trait, why do ESTPs tend to be the player bachelor type? Is this a sentiment you've developed as you got older and realized you may end up alone if you keep up this behavior?|||what's the verdict on these?  http://i37.tinypic.com/9timpz.jpg  do you guys think they could attract an ESTP?|||YES!!!!!!!!!!  I think this happens to nice people in general (some will see nice people as an opportunity to take advantage), however I think the difference with us is that we RECOGNIZE these...|||YES!!!!!!  So it's an INFJ thing. . .now I get it. I thought it was just me being in love with the process of love. . .'