'I do agree with you that book counterparts, are generally smarter. I just don't think the writers are very sophisticated at writing appropriate reactions from the characters (like you mentioned-...|||Any thoughts on Euron Greyjoy so far?   I'm thinking ESXP. Kind of funny, because ESTP= Ramsay, ESFP= Joffrey. Euron in the books is probably an ESTP, but I don't know, in the show he's more...|||Barry Allen ~ The Flash is a solid example of an ENFP. I think Finn is more of an ESFP. Some would argue Leia Organa is an ENTJ, but I don't know if I agree with that.  Wonder Woman (in the comics)...|||This is an interesting thread, and I'm glad the whole 'this character is an INFJ' is being discussed from multiple perspectives... and I have a confession to make.   I like typing fictional...|||Ah, I get what you mean. Thanks for explaining it for me and yeah- it makes sense. Like I said early- I'll put more thought onto it. ISTP- I can see a strong argument for. It's just ENTP that I...|||I don't think I see anything in Jung's description of Fi that would suggest they could 'read' people. Interesting, although I do think Tony is an ESFP I'll put more thought into that.|||Note: I'm just typing Tony Stark in the MCU, not in the comics.  Honestly, I think going to war and taking action (Te) over the lose of a child is incredibly Fi. It's just Tony's motives are easily...|||I thought Tony was a thinker at first, but then I came across this very good description of Fi in Tony    Until the sales of weapons impacts Tony directly, he doesn’t care about them – and then...|||From Firefly, you have Zoe as a clear cut ISTJ. Then you have Wash as an ESFP (although an argument could be made for ENFP)  Ygritte (ESTP) and Jon Snow (IXFP- although some will disagree with me...|||Fi's interesting.   Sometimes Fi isn't about moral convictions, but a bratty, childish, 'this is what i want, therefore it takes priority over all else'. Unhealthy Fi is selfish, but healthy Fi...|||Considering the deep discussion on the 'Donald Trump' thread, I thought maybe we could discuss the long history of presidents of the USA. You can just type one president, or the ones of the 21st...|||A question for those who lean more to ESTP- where do you see Ti / Fe, as opposed to Fi / Te?|||C'mon, even if you hate Weezer- there first two albums were solid (a tad on the immature side in the lyrics though)  But we all have different tastes :)|||I know, it's from celebrity types but they do make a good case for Rivers Cuomo (Weezer). Here are the quotes they list:  Cuomo: I believe in finishing what I started.  Cuomo: [While] I like...|||Good points. I am seeing more of an argument for ENTJ- the combination of Trump's fierce, firm principles and lack of tolerance (Te) mixed with singular vision for what he wants USA to be (Ni). For...|||I'm struggling to find types for songs, but I can type the albums. Grunge is a very SP genre, imo.  Bleach - ISTP. Tongue in check, experimental yet wonderfully aware.  Nevermind - ESFP. Anthems...|||Yeah, Amanda Seyfried's character. Been a while since I saw Mean Girls- but I'd lean more to ENFP. Maybe she has Ne in a lower position, perhaps? I recall her eccentric comments, her outlook in life...|||This is an interesting thread.   I think any type can be remembered, make a mark on the world, impact on peoples lives... ISFPs included. So I don't think we are 'forgetful' per say, but very...|||Aww, look an INTJ thinks he's right and being 'honest'... so cute. And cliche.   You're not worth it. We are just debating on interpretations. Seeing as you have never given any examples on how...|||Anyway, I'm no longer discussing this. I have no intention to have a conversation with someone who is condescending and rude. I don't deserve to be treated with scorn.|||Wow, aren't you a lovely person? Just a tip: when debating with someone, avoid making such claims as 'you are taking a moralistic standpoint' or 'your missing the point.' Seriously, don't talk down...|||To answer the OP's question, Karen from Mean Girls. Classic Ne-dom: she's into ideas, odd ways of thinking, etc as opposed to the concrete reality. Ne can care about 'the truth'- but with Karen,...|||Who pillaged the Riverlands? Who gave the order? Was it Catelyn, or Tywin? Because if it's not Catelyn, why are we holding her accountable for a grown man adult's actions? I'm sure Oberyn Martell...|||Yes, blame The Riverlands on Catelyn. Blame the rape, pillage and murder, not on the person who gave the order but because of Catelyn's decision. Tywin is a grown man and an adult. He's accountable...|||'ridiculous feats of competence'  Such as? The Red Wedding, the ultimate band-aid solution? Him being hand of the king to Aerys, who he struggled to keep in check? I'll give Tywin arranging Cersei...|||Tywin? Smart?  Let's see: -Couldn't talk Tyrion out of shooting him on the toilet -Is the most hated person in Westeros by his solution of resorting to rape and murder. Being hated is not a smart...|||I used to type him as an intuitive. I've seen some ENFJ typings as well.|||Depends how you interpret his character or arc- but Robb Stark from Game Of Thrones / A Song Of Ice And Fire. He rebels against the Lannisters and Joffrey, despite wielding power over him. Hell, he...|||Well, Saint Michael The Archangel, from the Bible (and Catholic interpretations) always struck me as an ESTJ or ENTJ. Direct, does what needs to be done (his most famous artwork by Luca Giordano is a...|||Depending on your perspective on whether or not she is a villain... Dolores from Westworld really does strike me as an ENFP.|||So I've been rewatching alot of Doctor Who in the past week, and tbh I struggle alot with Mickey because I do see alot of Se-like willingness to take charge, but I'm torn between whether or not he...|||Hmm.... I enjoyed Iron Fist despite its flaws, but I'll admit some of the characterization for the characters wasn't exactly clear.  Danny: ISFP Colleen: tricky.... I'll say ISTJ for now.  Ward:...|||About Padme being an ENFJ to fill in a 'blank space'- Maz could possibly be an ENFJ (but we need to see more of her). I get and agree with ESTP for Poe- I'd however note he has really healthy Fe and...|||damn, I just saw the DW thread on sticky, forgot to look there. I'm silly, lol|||Couldn't find the DW thread, so I'll start this one to discuss Bill!  I'm thinking ENTP. Her Ne / Fe is through the roof, with Ti giving her a curious, analytical and individual streak.  Other...|||I've always found Dean to be hard to type. On one hand, he seems to be the classic ESTJ: straight forward, commanding, honest, dedicated citizen. But there's also an argument for ESFP or ESTP: not...|||I... love ISTJs dearly, and despise Pauline Hanson but ISTJ does make the most sense for her.  Here's the thing about Si. It can make people great learners, fast on their feet, commanding respect....|||I do think Cersei uses logic, it's just toxic, Lannister I'm the best therefore I win logic. She reminds me of Tywin alot (which is ironic: Cersei is the 'son' Tywin always wanted to be like him, but...|||Whilst I agree everything Cersei does is about ending up losing her own power, Te users can lose their power over time. Tywin's 'Lannister Legacy' is in utter decay, and nothing Tywin nor Kevan did...|||Well, Cersei sucks at Fe. It's kind of hard to manipulate people who hate you, or have their own agendas (The Sparrows, for instance). Everyone hates Cersei except Jaime and Joffrey, and she doesn't...|||I've said Negan in the past was an ESXP, but I'm leaning more on ENTJ these days.   -Negan loves all things power, structure, rules, responsibilities, order, etc. There is no struggle, he likes...|||Ti, should not be reduced to simply 'logical.' What it is- the making sense of the world through and acting on logic. As it is introverted, it is incredibly personalized and not driven as an adapting...|||You can do either if you like, it's up to you!|||Oh it wasn't aimed at you! But I should've been more clear on what I meant, so I'm sorry for my lack of clarity.   You can be critical of Beyonce, but you can also praise her if you like. Really-...|||The title says it all! This is a thread for anyone who wants to talk about sensors (SJs and SPs) throughout history. Anyone, as long as a) they fascinate you somehow b) you consider them to be...|||With Beyonce, I think you have a straight forward SFJ. She knows exactly how to play and run the show, and take over the limelight from others. Ni can do this (any type could) but with Beyonce, she's...|||I still think Margaery is a Si user. She knows exactly what she is doing, uses established methods to gain love (charity work, for instance), often plays to societies expectations. What makes her a...|||Haneke's kind of rusty for me, I haven't seen a film of his in a while but I adore The White Ribbon. His films are kind of -stripped bare- meaning there is a lack of excess or overall interference....|||Sofia Coppola's very interesting. I think she's an ISFP. I've seen all her films with the exception of The Bling Ring, and I've noticed the following  -Very 'aesthetical'- pleasing and mood setting...|||About studio interference: it depends on the film. So, there was alot of studio interference in say, Suicide Squad- but not much in David Ayer's previous films. I'd suggest looking at trends of the...'