'Basically, I think I see grumpiness as a willingness to disrupt the collective facade, which at all costs wants to maintain a detrimental, false sense of security and harmony. I appreciate that.|||LOL, no idea but I don't have a drop of Se in me. Do you mean Te? If so, I can see that. Also, yes, grumpy people have a special place in my heart -- but, I most of all admire people who are bold......|||Yes, unless they're mean about it. But just grumbling along, being in tune with all the crappier sides of life --- I adore that.|||Result: Tritype 459/549/945. The Contemplative. Well, golly darn. Nailed it. Definitely the best Tritype test I've taken, too.|||And ask yourself, why does the admiration and validation of these people really matter to you? Sounds like you don't like THEM, anyway. Be honest with yourself, it'll reveal a lot about your fears...|||*Deep breath*  I really see no way around this other than to make a conscious decision to get over your own ego a little bit. And, find ways to value yourself/feel satisfied with yourself, outside...|||One more thing - up to a certain age, maybe high school, I was *obsessed* with doing things perfectly, with being the sharpest I could be, getting the highest scores I could get. Which is kind of...|||Also you may be interested in reading more about the concept of soul child, by Sandra Maitri.|||I don't think I was 1ish as a child, except that I tattled a lot. Lol.  However, a 1ish quality I've always had is very strong conviction. I was also extremely insensitive to things I perceived as...|||double post sry|||People sure have some... interesting interpretations of gender, in this world.|||All of the above.|||Yes. Or at least the stability is an illusion. Once its taken or threatened in even a small way, there's anxiety and discontent. Often the fixation to satisfy or feel secure in the first instinct can...|||Right. As for the underlined, I was replying to the person who said the purpose of life is to overcome things; can't remember if it was you or someone else. I don't think doctors have a right to...|||First of all, it's great and inspiring that you've gotten to a point where you are glad to be alive. You say that life is about overcoming things, but maybe not everyone agrees. To me, I bother...|||Mine would be...   Fi Ne (very close second) Si or Ni (so close, even though that's supposed to be impossible) Te (I'm weak here) Ti or Fe (sorry to everyone I interact with) Se (what even is...|||Any project that heavily involves Te, I feel inwardly panicked and like I'm definitely missing something. Often times, I am. I try to appear to know what I'm doing, though, and it feels fake... or at...|||Result: Type: 5 Tritype: 548/584   *scratches head* Well, I did like the test, but...    Edit- I took it again to change some of the things I was on the fence about and got Result: Type: 4...|||What if 7x92s adopted self-control/personal responsibility like a 1? I think that's what they do, when they integrate to 5. 5's are very big on self-control (and then rebound into excessiveness when...|||There's some reasoning behind the method that I always forget, though the individual lines all make sense to me. On the other hand, I could come up with some explanation for why any type could/should...|||Anyway the point is, I know as a 2 (or really just as a close friend in general), the withdrawal thing can be really painful. And most people hate hurting their friends, including 4s... it's just, I...|||Time and space, lack of guilting, lack of judgement.   I have a very good friend who is a 2 and we've been through similar issues. But she ended up becoming accepting about it, even if she didn't...|||I hope more people do this one.  type 4 A) Does your ego fixation feed your vice? Can you describe how? Does melancholy/fantasizing feed my envy? Like gas to a fire. I'm constantly fantasizing...|||And another thing. The best advice I can give you, whether or not you're a Four (but perhaps especially if you are) -- if you think you have a good grasp on what you want out of life, and the will...|||This is vague. Personally, hearing that I'm too idealistic makes me roll my eyes, because more than anything, I just feel shame for never living up to what I think I should/could be. It doesn't...|||That is an interesting approach. I think I will try it.   In any case, yes, there can be a disconnect between how people see me and how I see myself. But people aren't privy to our thoughts and...|||Just finished this series last night. I know, a little delayed. But I am obsessed, sooo....  Buffy - ESxP... 8w9 so/sp Spike -ISTP... 8w7 sx/sp Giles - IxTJ... 5w6 or 1w9 sp/sx Willow - INFJ......|||Well, I finished the series... 1.5 decades too late. But! My thoughts...  Buffy - ESxP... 8w9 Spike - ISTP... 8w7 Giles - IxTJ... 5w6 or 1w9 Willow - INFJ... 6w7 Tara - INFP... 9w1 Oz -...|||more examples- It seems like women don't usually appreciate my advances, maybe my approaches don't mesh with what make most women feel safe/appreciated. I tend to be really candid and I don't mean...|||I deal with all genders the same way. Which is to say, not especially well, BUT it has nothing to do with gender. I think gender is a construct --- which doesn't mean it's not real. Constructs are...|||Perhaps you did just answer the question! I never understand this reaction. I generally love why questions and being prompted to express ideas, and I generally love hearing other people...|||I agree with asking 'why'... though perhaps not always directly, if the person seems uncomfortable with it. A less direct way to do this is to make sort of a statement to see whether they agree. I...|||Style Four characterizes a persistently self-obsessed person for whom their own experience and overthinking said experience is paramount.      Yep, gross. This was the underlying understanding...|||Michael from The Office 7w6 ENFP Although I do not think most people agree with me on his type. But those people are wrong.|||If I read this knowing nothing else about you, I'd probably end up guessing One. Based mostly on the first section, though that also does sound kind of sixish (the repeat self thing, hehehe). But...|||Yeah.  I don't think people wasting time on enneagram are experiencing much violence, misogyny, and persecution. Well, I think that's a very problematic mindset because these types of problems...|||If I am understanding correctly, I think that's what the majority of people do anyway when they attack others. I mean, convince themselves/believe their opponents are bad/evil, and find some way to...|||What else do you have to go off of? That might help.|||I was engaged to a 1w2. We were together for a total of 5 years. We attracted one another by a strong interest and willingness for talking, at great length, about our values. And our experiences that...|||If someone came to you and asked you to make a decision about something, what would your thought process be? It would be a mixture of curiosity, nervousness, and What am I being bothered about...|||Not One. They are one of the frustrated types, and never really rest or accept blanket states of harmony. 9... probably under certain circumstances, when they can no longer withdraw/deny that the...|||That said, if it's about something that is none of their business, and therefore you're not trying to betray pre-existing understandings about communication and accountability, I don't think it is a...|||It really depends. If the intention is to mislead, about something the other person has a right to know, then it is the same as a lie. For example, your partner is a recovering alcoholic who has been...|||6- Idk, I have a lot of anxiety problems. But I don't have trust issues in a very sixish way- I do expect things to go wrong, but I also expect myself to be capable of handling it when it does so I...|||1- I relate quite a bit to 1, honestly, with wanting to know the right thing to do, feeling very afraid of being a bad person, and feeling unsatisfied when I don't do certain things perfectly -- but...|||7. I truly cannot relate to the slightest inclination to detach from my emotions (I sometimes dissociate but that's different). I am too hysterical to even try to distract myself from pain, pretend...|||I don't know why this is but the majority of my friends have either asked me out or admitted feelings for me at some point, if they're not exes. It weirds out my partner a little but whatever. ...|||Yes, lovely! I've taken a lot of time to study levels of health since I wrote that, and I'm happy to announce I'm definitely somewhere in the Average range right now. And at times even flirt with...|||ooh, thank you. That's interesting although I don't put much stock into this, lol.   The main trend I've noticed in my romantic life is that everyone I've ever dated on any level has sx either...|||I don't know because I can't read the letters. But I'd choose, for the women, upper-right hand side. For the guys, center and top row. I'm bisexual. What are they? lol'