'That's probably because it's hard to get a consistent view on types using MBTI. You are probably a LII (INTj) and your friend a SEI (ISFp). Or you are a ILI (INTp) and your friend a ESI (ISFj)....|||Haha! Well, if that really was true, don't you think that's a pretty bad definition of being human, considering 70% don't fit it.    So you don't think Thinkers can have hurt feelings, or? ...|||Well, you don't. It's not a good idea to try to improve an inferior function. But, there are some things you can do. Be prepared. It puts less pressure on Te if you have had time to take care of...|||Why do you care?  Your type is not gonna change to something else, just because others view ISFPs in a certain way (if that is even true, I don't know)  If you are good in academics that means...|||Things ENTP likes in a partner:  1 friendly, warm, easy-going 2 helps you relax 3 shows emotions naturally 4 doesn't argue about relationships 5 helps you focus on worldly matters when needed...|||Learn socionics (yeah, it takes a while, but it's not impossible). Try to hang out / make friends with the same quadra. It doesn't mean that you will connect with all of them, far from it, but the...|||Enfj   _________|||I wrote the post you quoted a long time ago. Anyway, You cannot just swap j/p for introverts to get the socionics type. There is no automatic way of converting the types, but often types are the...|||Basically the strength of the ESFP is great flexibility in personal relationships and understanding of power. Of course I don't know if you really are ESFP/SEE, but here are some descriptions. ...|||Yes. Many ESFP are good natural leaders. It's the same type as the SEE politician in socionics. The ESFP is one of the types that is most centered on personal power. And I've noticed that many...|||Your're right about that. ESFP is very common among politicians.|||Reinin dichotomies requires knowledge of socionics. Not only to read the article about them but to observe these things in real life for a long time and categorizing people through the socionics...|||I am glad it was. Even though I didn't use my translate-to-intuitive-language software when writing it. :)    They do. Not exactly in the same way because all dual pair have different interests,...|||I am standing at the end of the world with no fear, no fear :shocked:    Actually, it IS 100% right, but it takes many years of observations and life experience to realize this. People in these...|||It's interesting. In MBTI there is the S/N opposition that people want to emphasize, because the model keeps them separate. So some people assume that sensors and intuitors cannot communicate very...|||I type God ISTJ, as he appears in the old testament.|||Yes, he is definitely enfj. I don't understand why some people want to type him as an introvert or thinker. His speeches are extremely outgoing, dramatical, emotional, manipulating and affecting the...|||enfj    ........|||ENTP-ISFP is duality (a natural match). So just go for it and follow your instincts. Try to do things where you both can be yourselves, away from demands of the environment (work, school). Give each...|||Of course you have chemistry with an ISTP, you and him are duals. (IEE-SLI). That's the best type match. Trust your instincts but don't trust everything you read on the internet.|||It's actually better to think of same type code as being corresponding types. So ISFJ = ISFj (ESI) and ISFP = ISFp (SEI) etc.  So then the functional order is different, but the functional...|||Socionics is very accurate, but it's a whole theory of compatibility. It's not enough to read through some website and then think you know it. The socionics relationships can seem suspiciously...|||It's not really that simple. It could be that your girlfriend is an ISFp/SEI and that you are duals (congratulations if that's the case!). But you cannot use the j/p conversion for introverts...|||That's Activation and a very common relationship (ENTP+ESFJ). There are a lot of married couples and friends with this type combination. But using the SJ-category to generalize about relationships is...|||Extraverts can be shy. Nothing strange about that.|||Entp   .........|||I know this. It is just that these are not good definitions for what we see in real people, if we compare all 16 types and how they interact. And if we compare different typology systems. It's a long...|||Still, it captures the types we see in the real world much better. There is a problem with MBTI, it fucks up the functional order for introverts. This has never been corrected.  The Se-types are...|||In socionics the ego and super-id functions are the same in each quadra, not the first 4. Oh, maybe you were talking about the MBTI functional order.  Yeah, just don't mix MBTI and Socionics, it...|||Nope, the J/P switch for introverts doesn't work. It would only work if you assumed that the functional definitions are the same, but they aren't. The relation between MBTI and socionics is actually...|||These are all mirror relationships in Socionics. They are good because they are inside the same quadra, but they are not the best. Partners have similar strengths with slightly different emphasis...|||No, this is not correct. I know there is a web site with a conversion table of this kind, but it is not correct. This has been discussed on socionics forums. The conversion would only be correct if...|||It's tricky to mix MBTI and socionics. You CANNOT just switch the j/p for introverts to get the socionics type. Actually, often the socionics type and MBTI type are the same. I, for example, am ISFp...|||However, there are theories that try to predict the development of relationships from a type perspective. And explain why two so different types as istj and enfj can match perfectly. Still, of course...|||ENFJ and ISTJ are duals in Socionics. So provided you have the same types in socionics (which you might have), then that's the perfect match, but it can take some time to get used to each other. ...|||Socionics functions have different definitions than in MBTI, so dont confuse the two. Fi in Socionics is not the same as Fi in MBTI.  If you want to know about compatibility between types, then...|||This sounds very biased to me. To mention logics vs supernatural as the line between T/F when talking about intellect.  Feelers dont tend to believe in supernatural stuff as opposed to logics....|||...........|||What do you mean? If you are ISFP you cannot have Ne. But you might have developed Ni so you percieve things with Se + Ni. Maybe you think of it as Ne.  Have you read this?: How to tell iNtuiting...|||I've left this forum, but I'm just stopping by for a while.  Why do you want to know why I think I am ISFP?   I know it from many things, they all combined gave me the information I needed to...|||Socionics has a model of intertype relations. ESTP and INFP form a duality pair = best psychological comfort (it doesnt say anything about attraction). Formally MBTI types and Socionic types are not...|||They have different dominant functions. Ne and Se. But they can be easily confused in a test. There is a quite useful article about this problem:   How to tell iNtuiting from extraverted Sensing |...|||Many INFJ:s have eyes turned downwards. Like being sad. LIke this: /   I think INFJ eyes look exactly like the functions of their type: They radiate Fe through a layer of Ni.  Look at this old...|||Thank you for posting this. I've been thinking about this too. Before I knew anything about MBTI and my type I was able TO BE FAKE IN AN INNOCENT WAY. I could for example put on an ESFJ face to...|||Just a small off-topic remark on this: I never understand what balanced P/J actually means. The four letter code is just a short form for the four preferred functions, and they are fixed. J means...|||I use Linux (Ubuntu). No anti-virus and no viruses. Muahahahah!|||I'd say stereotypical dominant Se. Confident in ever changing situations, enjoys the thrill. Wants to make an impact and get an immediate result. Spontanous. Confident.  ESTP  Extraverted Sensing|||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF_irDJUdGI|||I cannot say that I am the same way. And as types we are very different. But there is one analogy:  I often feel that I HAVE to listen to people. It's not that I WANT to listen to them, or...|||In a way there is nothing to remove because the identity is virtual. Except the connection to the physical you, your real e-mail address. But it can be changed or removed, as far as I know. When you...'