'I wonder...do you think that it has the roles of the functions correct, but the ordering wrong?  My Si, for example, is much weaker than I understand a tertiary should be.  I have virtually no grasp...|||The function stack for an INFJ in MBTI is Ni, Fe, Ti, Se The function stack for the equivalent of an INFJ in socionics (INFp?) is Ni, Fe, Si, Te  Obviously, these can't both be right.  I was...|||If other people knew about mbti, do you think they would be able to peg you as an INFJ?  INFJs are known for wearing masks, so I wouldn't be surprised if most of us act like other mbti types. ...|||Me: INFJ Mother: INFJ Father ISFP Brother: ISFP Sister: INFJ|||Sure.  It's all on a spectrum.  I wouldn't trust anyone who asserts rigidity in a theory like this.|||I think you're probably right.  You see a lot more INFPs mistyped as INFJ than the other way around.|||I would agree that the most important part would be N>S.  A huge part of philosophy is abandoning things you take for granted, which includes the validity of information coming from your senses. ...|||Oh, you mean a personalitycafe ;)|||I agree that there should be experts to help figure out types, but it can't be mandatory.  If every person had to go through a panel to attend, it would get really congested.  I also think that it...|||mistakenforstranger You make a good point, but I'm still not sure.  I don't see how manipulation could stem from a function that takes in information.  Sure, he uses his aura of Ni as a tool to...|||I don't see Te in him.  I think he's too manipulative (Fe) to be an INTJ.|||I don't see Michael as being an EXFJ.  I think he's pretty clearly Ne-Fi (ENFP).  If he had Fe (especially dom), I think he would be able to perceive that others find him annoying and change his...|||Sorry for necroposting.  I'm not too far in with him, but do you think it's possible that he could be an INFJ?  We're not all good, you know.|||Fair enough, I should have differentiated.  However, I think it's reasonable to say that the Republican Party largely represents the face of American conservatism, being the more conservative party....|||Zoobicknizer Of course there are problems on both sides of the spectrum, but it would be unrealistic to claim that the blame is equal.    As far as corruption, major politicians on both sides are...|||I may sound like an asshole (oh well), but if you really are a Trump supporter you should be terrified to mention it.  You have a lot of nerve suggesting other people are unintelligent if you...|||Okay so this article Fi in INFJs | Stellar Maze says that Fi is strong as an id function in INFJs.  Some of this site is sketchy with astrology and whatnot, but I find some of its posts very...|||Extremely helpful, thank you!  I always darted whenever I saw this site because of the whole astrology thing.    BUT, having read that, I can't express how spot on it is.  It explains everything,...|||Ni is our dom function and Si is at the bottom of our shadow stack, so I would venture to say looking at the past is not an INFJ's default setting.  But for the past year and a half or so, my Ni has...|||Apparently it's pretty common for INFJs to put on masks in public (aux Fe).  Do/have any of you out there ever put on the mask of being a different type?  I did this even before I learned about the...|||Hello 4s,  It's pretty commonly said that 4s feel like they're missing something, and that they spend a lot of time trying to figure out what that something is.  It may take a while, but they...|||Kerik_S That's a good point.  But there are also a lot of people out there who do suffer from mental illness, but haven't yet gotten a diagnosis.  I knew I was depressed and had anxiety long before...|||Wednesday Mermaid If we're going to be picky...  Most of that sounds right, except for the bit about psychopaths and struggling with emotions.  Where sociopaths might exhibit some immature, stunted...|||Okay, I know some people are lying.  ASPD is basically the same thing as sociopathy.  I really doubt you guys are sociopaths.|||test|||...I'm not asking for personal advice, I'm asking for thoughts on the relationship between intuition and the five things they talked about in the article (specifically the first).|||To clear up, I should say that I wasn't taking a jab at sensing intelligence at all.  I have the utmost respect for it, especially since I'm so bad at it.  The type of intelligence I'm thinking of...|||This link talks about how fluid intelligence can be increased:  You can increase your intelligence: 5 ways to maximize your cognitive potential - Guest Blog - Scientific American Blog Network  If...|||Take off that mask you wear for other people.  Who are you, really?|||Nox Right, so I would say that an INFJ coming to the conclusion that their plastic nature is part of their identity would be the correct conclusion given their actual functions.  What I'm saying is...|||Marduk I'm basing this on my own experiences; there aren't really enough INFJs in the wild to observe, much less to gather support for a theory as specific as this.  It might help to differentiate...|||Marduk I think your analysis of the functions in question is spot on and very insightful - but we're talking about them as they behave in different states.  Maybe I didn't make it clear, but I'm...|||mystikro Hm, interesting.  I wonder if a change in environment that's drastic enough could trigger an Ni-Ti loop?  Like, as a last-ditch attempt to hold onto the ideals of the previous environment. ...|||Windblownhair Right, I'm not saying that our entire identity will be defined by our environment.  But I think that for Fe users it kind of seeps into our thoughts and we get very confused about...|||Hey, I have a theory, based on my own experiences, on how Fe responds to change in a previously constant environment.  If Fe is immersed in one environment for long enough, the values of that...|||I have a theory, based on my own experiences, on how Fe responds to change in a previously constant environment.  If Fe is immersed in one environment for long enough, the values of that...|||Undoubtedly, there is a lot of room for difference between two people of the same type.  You get that with a theory that groups humanity into 16 segments.  I was wondering, though...is there usually...|||Zooxanthellae mystikro is offering completely sound advice.  I'm pretty sure that by Feminism is just poison he means the kind that advocates for women>men.  He literally says equal rights are a...|||Oh, hey you.  I came across this text post on tumblr the other day- INFJs: artists who think they can be scientists.  It really hit home.  I feel like throughout almost my entire school...|||4 is a prominent enneatype among INFJs, but it seems like 4 at its core is a type for Fi users.  How can the two be reconciled, if INFJs are Fe users?|||Hey, Can somebody post a link or provide real evidence that cognitive functions are real and scientifically valid?  The only evidence I ever hear for them is anecdotal.  I've seen a plethora of...|||Hi, I'm doing some research on instinctual variants and whatnot, but I can't really figure out which I am; I identify with them all on some level.  I'll break down my reaction to each one...|||^This  I'm no expert, but I think that the weak and whiny stereotype probably stems from the misguided idea that feelings are for the weak.  Since it's generally thought that INFPs feel feels the...|||Flamingo *Hugs*|||I like to peruse arguments on the validity of MBTT, just to keep my perspective fresh.  Usually, the counterargument comes out stronger, but the debunking never stops.  So as the conflict rages...|||I think that you are probably still a J.  Even though your philosophy affects your demeanor to make it more P-ish, the internal dialogue is that of a J.  Your behavior is a result of some hard...|||Not very.  In other news, happy first post!  Welcome to PerC.|||Pretty much.  At least, that's what I strive for.  My style also tends to be very straightforward and clear, even if I'm delivering some sort of absurdist joke.  I think that may be why people...|||Geonerd Her mother is very messy, so maybe that does have something to do with it.  And she is a natural leader...still though, I get kind of strong P vibes from her...I think.  She's somewhat flaky|||Geonerd She may well be some weird variation of a J, but I don't think so.  You should see her room.  She's currently in high school.'