'Unpleasant and unhappy because of that feeling? Feeling you're losing your Ego? INTPs when fall in love have that sort of all or nothing feeling. I think if they love the other person they don't...|||lunai I don't know how it is for girls, but I feel it's not going to change anytime soon here either. BTW, it also makes me slightly uncomfortable to express care, the giving part at least... I...|||Ayokos Thank you.   Seeker I'm sorry but I don't have the energy to read all that. I'm too tired of this merry-go-round. Think whatever you will, whatever makes you happy. I'm excusing myself...|||You don't. She just means that you should get used to your low Fe and work with it. You say your friends aren't like that, they probably have higher Fe values, meaning they don't feel the same way...|||I thought the overall interaction was quite funny. Mainly his initial comment and Ayokos posts. Then Graficcha blows steam and Seeker calls for direction... Not his post personally, sure, but it...|||LOL, the more the merrier, but if you look closer it's only Seeker that's defending a friend from nothing. I'm not making a fuss about it, she is. I was just amused because Seeker lost her...|||With that company you will never be alone! lol ;)|||Well, you don't need to be a football player to play football. :P Besides, I never accused him of being anything, just to explain his reasoning's before coming with apparent far fetched theories to...|||My take is that she likes you, but doesn't know how. She's trying not to think about it as a romantic relationship. I won't dare to say that she sees you only as a friend, specially if she's INTP....|||That type of ignore happens to male and female alike, I think he was pointing at ignoring deliberately. This kind of makes me intrigued. What do you INTP girls say regarding that?  Let's say......|||Yes, atm it's becoming too emotional and too uptight.|||You're defining a gossiper, not gossip.  I don't understand why you keep talking about it. I understood  lastman, he understood me, and you're bringing it, staying in the middle trying not sure...|||Who's that? Someone important?   A INTJ,  luemb, comes into INTP forum, specifically Q about dating and tells a non-INTP that they should ignore a INTP, a healthy behaviour... don't...|||*double post*|||What would you call it?  I'm sorry if you don't understand where I was getting at. He did. By dictionary, gossip: casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically...|||:confused: ... *reads again* :laughing: ... I'm sorry, only an INTJ could call that behaviour healthy.|||Yes, I don't dismiss any possibility, but saying things like that out of the blue comes by as gossip. Which I disdain. I do care for people, maybe more than I should, I have my share of Good deeds...|||:frustrating: I don' know almost anything about your relationship, only some bits you put, so can't help with that type of decisions, just like with IRL friends. If you want to break, INTPs can...|||Wow, what sort of reasoning led to this? You're being paranoid, you make it sound like he's a psycho with no logical reason.|||I guess it's not satisfying because it cannot be debated, but it's something. It's based on a feeling like I thought, thus does not hold ground on a debate ;P lol It's not woo woo I assure you,...|||It's kind of hard telling a story because I can only come up with INTJs. But... what does it matter the Ti? INTP and ISTP are both primary Ti, they are the same there, instead you should care for...|||ISTPs can commit themselves, just like we do. But their commitment lasts as long as their lifestyle is safe. I suppose INTPs are a bit like that with the suffocation issue, but INTPs are more...|||Why are you being judgmental to ISTPs?   A: Both are, primary Ti.   A: I know non-NTs that do this.   A: ISTPs do see the big picture, in some ways more than we do... we see the big picture...|||I was referring to both quotes from you just above in my reply, you probably skipped those.   Hmmm... I'm not thrilled by commitment-oriented speech (like Strelok). I'm leaning more to S with each...|||I understand that. Yet, if you can or want to look into it...     I'm sorry but I don't see much future commitment here, more here and now.   I'm not. I'm just trying to help out in here...|||Some ISTP quotes I've found useful:  ...dare I say, TOUCHÉ?! It explains the controlling feeling you have described. INTPs can lead, or control, but they avoid to.   It seems the best way to...|||If we consider the described episodes as outbursts the behaviour can be explained, that's why I have been pointing recurring events, and by what Seeker says after he doesn't fit Js. Although, Streker...|||Lol yes, she might not gave much thought of its implications, but she remembers it.  Don't take it personally if she doesn't banter about YOUR thoughts, she's probably busy, or has more intriguing...|||We don't know what he was talking about, we can assume something important or mildly important to him. Although, regardless, the fact that it was something out on control by both (the cat) that...|||joe_the_buckeye   Thank you, that wasn't as you came across at all.  Yes, although I wouldn't call them healthy individuals it's implying that if a relation doesn't work between hard...|||Although you are doing exactly that. I'm calm, talking about fair arguments, possible resolutions and insights, without the whole picture (but we have what we have). You on the other hand are acting...|||From your comments It does seem he has some issues, specially considering age (around double of mine). But I'm only listening to one version here. Often people think that are following the discussion...|||I know you've been stressed out from other posts, family and whatnot, but saying things like those to your boyfriend... good luck with that. Either way, you're regarding it as an INTP + INTP, which...|||If it wasn't on a professional context you'd feel stressed? Why? It's not like the discussion is with you. So you have to be on control to feel safe?    I don't know about other types, but to...|||I see. What have you felt from it? Not professionally, but your feeling at the time while it unfolded?|||^This! By all means tell her that you loved to ear her thoughts. This is how INTPs connect, she stopped sharing those because she probably felt you weren't contributing to them, that she was boring...|||Is that a Yes? Have you witnessed it or are you speaking as a psychological point of view?|||So you are saying ISTJs have the same needs as the INTP? Lol. Sorry, I found it amusing, care to develop that?    So basically you said: a perfect pair (amongst themselves) can be perfectly...|||Exactly! We can decompose their arguments and amuse ourselves seeing them putting them back together justifying each of them while striving to win. And we can also get extra variables to confuse them...|||Lol, well, not humouring them, more like humouring myself ;P (but, ya its not as funny as decomposing INTJs). But it was cool because unknowingly they quoted me and actually gave me reason.|||Ok. Lol I know right? At least I tried :P Hey now, you know INTPs can be outwardly emotional! It literally OUTbursts. Consider yourself warned ;P|||Some countries pay by month... its a scheme to rob employees.   @OP Fanatics... this should gather most of what pisses me off, just apply it to anything :/ (to religion, not accepting other...|||Unavailable... by fact?  I've walled myself on the past (several years back), we tend to do that to cope with problems. Now, looking back walling yourself is worse. Try to have a more relaxed mood....|||OMG I so do this!!! (Not on those words but in that sense) I see it like an argument decompose and exploiting their flaws. Right back at you!|||LOLOL  Giving a bit of insight for non-INTPs like Seeker. Maybe (beside the topic *cof cof*) its because we are open, honest, non-judgmental, like to argument and expect (and receive) the same...|||I fall in love with the person and their mind. I understand where that theory comes from, but it works more on people with short relations, INTPs are slow starters so they usually don't hook-up with...|||Awww sometimes I really despair how people perceive INTPs as dense (rightfully so I might add) but at the same time be it as much. I like to think that I would ...how can you not see this means he...|||I don't understand the background of the question. I'm an INTP and when I need time I have it.  Most of the problems regarding that is because our mate starts having weird ideas that we might be...|||@OP What-Is-Love-? We-Are-Robots-We-Do-Not-Understand-Human-Feelings-! Lol, sorry had to :P  Seriously though, like you might have realized by now your question is ambiguous. How do you expect...|||On a Sidenote you all should be aware that although this topic is old, I was the only INTP to explain why that sort of romantic relation might clash at some point (from a INTP point of view), even...'