'Hi, I'm an ENFP and am married to an ENTP so I have some close contact to the differences between these two types. I would also focus on whether you prefer Ti versus Fi. One thing that I would say...|||For me, just forcing myself, tolerating the anxiety and discomfort that come with it. Doing it even though it is an unfamiliar thing and I can't predict how it's going to turn out afterwards and what...|||Hi Enfpleasantly, I tried replying to your message on my wall but the system kept blocking me.|||Yes, I've read that thread. I can definitely see myself in those stages previously in my life. Good luck with getting back to yourself again. I'm also not all the way there yet, but I can feel myself...|||Haha, I say/do this stuff all the time too! A rainbow cannot be passed uncommented.   Some things I often say:  - Oh look at that pigeon. It's a brown and white pigeon. How special. (Or substitute...|||Haha, yes. Someone else told me once that for an ISTJ I sound like an NF. It is all making more sense to me now. It's an odd thing to realise and to factor in the things that until now I just...|||Yes, please. Thank you :)     I have started watching the Way of the Dream films. I have always listened to my dreams since I was a child, it is a topic I find really fascinating, thanks for the...|||I think I am experiencing that now. I am in my early 30ies. As I experience it, it's like natural life experiences, e.g. marriage, children, career etc. automatically push you to confront more and...|||I am in my 30s too and asking those same questions of myself. It is funny because I have always asked those questions but they have come up in a new kind of way recently. I am reassessing things in a...|||I was thinking about this last night and I think you are right. The way I am with my husband and children, for example, is very different from the way I am when I am physically around my parents. I...|||Thanks :happy:  That's kind of you to say.   Yes, I was going more by outward behaviour. I'm not very well versed in the functions in a theoretical way. I find Jung's descriptions difficult to...|||So y'all think I'm an ENFP? Someone else in the ENFP forum thinks so too. That makes me feel like, aaarrrggh!! :shocked:    My family is very corporate, business, high performance, non-emotional,...|||Thanks, but I'm pretty sure I'm a 7. 7 is connected to 5 and 1 so I think that is where the seriousness comes from. I had to draw on a lot of seriousness and reflection to cope with things growing...|||Ok, I am reposting this here from the ENFP forum at the suggestion of Owfin.   I'm having doubts about my typing as ISTJ and would appreciate input.  Apart from once I have always tested as ISTJ...|||Oh, there's no way I could be an ISFJ. I am really not service-oriented in that way or very dependent.     I wouldn't say that I do this. I have a bad memory for physical details. I generally...|||I would just hire someone to do all that stuff for me. If I were rich. Too bad I don't value material wealth. I guess I'm stuck doing it myself. What a bore. I'd rather think.|||Only if we do so in front of a mirror so I can get a good objective view of the whole thing.   (ooh, I feel bad)|||I'm having doubts about my typing as ISTJ and would appreciate input from the ENFP forum.   Apart from once I have always tested as ISTJ and accepted it but I am now seriously doubting if this is...|||Based on my personal experience and approach to spiritual growth in my life, I find that other people generally, whether on-line in a forum or offline, are often a hindrance especially when making...|||This is how I see the 479 Healer, Gentle Spirit, transforming tritype archetype. It is beautiful, peaceful, gentle but also strong, active and sharp:   32134  Gentle and healing but not in...|||Rationality comes into play in decision making. It doesn't make the feeling of the instinct less strong. You'll still feel the SO impulse, but rationality is about making the best objective choice...|||You're so full of it, chicken liver a** s***! Go ahead and shoot me a******!! You think YOU can control ME?! No way I'm meeting you at 8! No one can ever take away my freedom!!!!|||Context is important, yes. But I think with Enneagram it is more fruitful to take your time to get to know the system as a whole, soak it in, talk to people who knew you at different times in your...|||I don't think it's about suppressing yourself. The way you describe it makes it sound very black and white. Being healthier involves being able to make freer choices for your overall well-being. Our...|||Look at it this way, if we do get kidnapped we'll have a great story to tell once we get back home.|||Well, as long as there are ten or fifteen other people who've written to confirm they'll be there, I'm in.|||Agh, kids these days. *shakes head*|||Oh yay, it's another 7. What do you wanna do? I'm up for anything. Left or right? Let's flip a coin. Ooooh, it's heads, so we're going left, TOGETHER, SHARING the wonderful experience waiting for us!|||Oh look at that poor child. How she resonates with the unmet needs of my own inner child. The tears flow bitterly and silently down my cheeks. The world is so harsh and unfeeling. My inner child...|||You are an evil, selfish, silly person. I just don't understand how people like you think. I have a real problem with your behaviour. I can't take you seriously but it's bothering me so much... oh,...|||Yes, I also think that a lot of descriptions can be very misleading. I think the Enneagram is a fantastic system but it is difficult to put into words since it is more to do with a wholistic system...|||Mostly (c)...because you want to point out something they do that annoys you,  or something negative about them, in a way that would be more easily  received, or vent it in a jesting fashion?|||Your feelings are completely normal when you start to see the bigger picture and how we are trapped by a sick system. It would be abnormal not to be repulsed. I personally have hope and belief in a...|||For me, the best and most satisfying friendships are with girls, but rare to come by, while guys are generally easier to get along with and be friends with than girls but it's more superficial,...|||I relate a lot to Jung's description of the Si type as being driven by the intensity of the subjective sensation excited by the objective stimulus. I have strong subjective reactions to things, I...|||Personally, I don't think 13 is too young to deal with death. I don't know your particular situation though. Why do you think it would be such an issue for her mental health?|||In my opinion, when it comes to long-term compatibility and ideology and values I don't think looking into MBTI type is very helpful. I see values and ideology as more determined by individual choice...|||I don't understand your point. My point was not about whether or not ISTJs like rules.   I was addressing the original comment about how God should have laid out something like The 10,000...|||In the view of certain other religions God did lay out a large number of practical rules for daily living, e.g. Judaism and Islam, which both recognise Abraham and the original Abrahamic law even if...|||I love ENTPs! I am married to one :) I know one or two other people I suspect are ENTPs.   I like ENTPs because, based on my personal experience, they are curious about people and curious about how...|||Yes, they can read people well. Most of the time I found the observations shared by the INFJ I know very helpful. They were mostly intended to give me another perspective on myself for the sake of my...|||Well, I don't approach people like in the OP!   Sure, ISTJs can be abrupt and blunt. And they make lists, but more to-do lists or lists for self-organisation. I meant that in my experience with...|||If you're really worried about it, you could just ask the professor if it's ok and what the limit is.   Personally, I don't see anything wrong with basic proofreading, e.g. grammar, spelling, this...|||I haven't been on PerCafe very long, so I don't know about the observations made in the OP. But I think it should be noted that different forums on the internet can have a very different feel to...|||I am ISTJ happily married to an ENTP. I find we work pretty harmonically as a team because one person's weaknesses are the other's strengths, e.g. his optimism and playfulness lighten up my...|||Hello and welcome to the forum :)|||I can totally relate to being too serious and not fitting in, etc.   I became much less serious since I married the ENTP who is now my husband, lol. And I discovered a new silly side to me when our...|||It could be lots of different reasons depending on the person and context. I really couldn't say generally. Even if I am bored though I normally try to be polite and still pay attention.|||Gosh. Well, I'm sure dinners at your house are all very polite and everyone helps tidy up :)  I'm a hugger too. Didn't use to be as a kid but was trained by the various Fs I got to know as a I grew...|||Well, I'm not a man for starters :) I won't go into the details of what happened with my INFJ best friend, the issues were very particular. But we had various serious talks about the problems so she...'