'I decided to go through the thread and eliminate from the list those who have since changed their typing. Types organized by preferred perceiving function, I before E, F before T (op was I and F)....|||On how to deal with 8s: Do your own thing. Inform 8s when they do something you deem unacceptable. Stand your ground. Use simple sentences that clearly state what you want and what you expect. Being...|||Yes, online tests give people a lot of trouble. Third types can be hard to pinpoint, for sure. Definitely make sure you've got your core type right first.   Don't stop at the study of self -...|||Idk, for me I get the two confused because both are so low in stackings for me. Sp is my last instinct, Si is my last cf if you use the 8 function model. I can hand-wave them both at the same time...|||I feel like we see this a lot, this everyone getting 4 and 5 ... but honestly, I still don't know what it means, for us or the test.  idk, somebody rant about this so I can steal your best ideas to...|||Result: 4*5*8  I agree with two of the three. Still undecided on head fix though.|||Yeah, definitely. I don't think of it as not thinking, but I know others see it that way. I just ... act. I do things.   I definitely think this relates to the body triad, but I'm not entirely...|||Ignoring most everything said up to this point -   INFJ 8 here. Leaning 8w7.  Most people mistake me for T (especially when I went through that stage where I thought being an asshole made me...|||Lol, I didn't say that. But let's talk about this.   The absence of obvious, pulsing vibrancy doesn't mean you seem like a robot. You said you have been described as quiet and that you're...|||I type at INFJ  For years, I typed exclusively at INTJ. During a transitional period, all the xNxJ types were considered, before and after I started using cognitive functions; I'm clearly N and J,...|||I originally ruled out sx as first, then knew that soc couldn't be second. I was gonna leave it at that, but I really leaned so-first for you. I don't see really any sx, and I don't see an sp...|||Well, this is why traits shouldn't (imo) be used to decide (or even support) typing, and that is what I really mean when I say that 9s can be all these things - maybe not all at once, but nobody...|||Probably not: 8, 3, 2, 7 Enh: 4, 5, 1 I suggest you look into 6 and 9.  I don't suggest tritypes until core type has been decided, so I'm gonna pass on that one.  Thinking maybe so/sp/sx for...|||Most of the traits and behaviors you listed could be completely possible while still being a 9. I am close with two 9s right now, and most of what you listed applies to both of them. It's important...|||It's an interesting idea. I agree that it makes sense for withdrawn to assertive, and assertive to compliant. Not sure what the rationale is for compliant to withdrawn? (except of course that it's...|||I do this too. I've assumed it was a part of the line to 5, but I haven't considered the connection to 9? I'll have to think about it|||Again, sorry it took so long getting back to you, more glitches I guess! I completely understand the hesitance to type before you're absolutely sure. This forum isn't always the nicest to those who...|||I agree that 8s and 4s are both obvious shoo-ins for The Intense Types. The types share a hidden line, which might be contributing. Your sentence about realizing mortality however, sounded more...|||I don't wanna be a dick, but I do want to give fair warning - most people who study Enneagram agree with the (only existing) stance that 9w4 is not real/possible. Claiming to be a 9w4 in front of...|||12/12!  Thank god, I was a little nervous, had to guess about a couple. But most I learned in school  ... or from Star Trek...|||Hi!  No, 9w4 is not possible. The only info is about 9w8 and 9w1 because those are the only two possibilities for type 9. It goes back to the symbol. Type 9 is at the very top. Directly next to...|||I think some of this depends on how intuitive your friends are. My friends are all keenly perceptive, so I find their observations useful. The two friends with whom I do Enneagram things both settled...|||Admittedly, I do not know much about official disintegration theory or common camps within it. I've heard a few different definitions of disintegration, so I'm not sure I'm even meaning the same...|||Nah, Naranjo and Ichazo discussed instincts. The Fauvres, like many other theorists, have written more about them.|||Ooh, this is fun!  Before I knew much about the Enneagram/when I was starting out, I superficially related with: Centers of Intelligence: Head, then Gut, then Heart. Just because I've always been...|||Well, the section before that test says that the results are still slightly bugged, so that doesn't exactly inspire a whole lot of confidence. In general, I also dislike statements that have too...|||:welcome:  There are lots of INFJs to chat with here, so have fun!|||I like the idea of this! I might return to this after I think about it a bit, but for now  Bigger: End of capitalism would be nice. Abolition of police. Total abolition of slavery (in USA but also...|||Hi!   Tests can make great starting points, for sure. There are also Type Me/What is my Type? sections (a general one, and one specifically for the Enneagram) if you'd like the personal help of...|||Hi!  The INFPs have an entire forum all to themselves, and there's lots of INFPs on this site for you to chat with. You could use the search function to find some threads that might interest you,...|||:welcome:  I tested as INTJ for years before finally realizing I was actually an INFJ. Welcome to PerC!|||The instincts chart is funny to me, bc I remember when this stuff was done in 2012, the person doing it left out the instincts because 95% of people claimed they were sx.|||Then what are you doing with an INFJ?  :wink:    ... I think I'm funny|||As far as I know, there isn't a set system in place for Enneagram the same way there is for Socionics.   I've heard that some theorists think the instincts are more important for those concerns. I...|||Hi Wintry! Nice to have you around. I'm sure you'll find plenty of people who want to type the same characters you're interested in :)|||:welcome:  Not an 8w9, but close enough? Like you, I prefer Ni-Ti, which led me to typing as an NT for years. I rejected 8ness by looking at other types as well, but I never seriously considered 2...|||Sounds fun! Let us know what you find?|||It's a messy sort of thing, which everyone has to figure out for themselves. You are right that the types off the triangle will border another center, which can be tricky in tritype considerations....|||If this was directed at me specifically - I really don't know. I just know it was (is?) a thing. I lurked on this forum to learn about the enneagram, before I read any books or anything, so I really...|||fwiw, I'm always watching Friends, and I also think Ross Geller is a 2. (When I finish the show, I'll wait for maybe a week, realize I miss it, and start watching it again. I've seriously seen the...|||Like the other 8s on this thread, I don't like the Vulnerable thing. (8s? Not liking vulnerability? Shocking!) The other points are good.  But here's the thing. I also agree with most of 1, 2, 4,...|||Ah, yes, thank you. I use triad, personally, but these are important distinctions. The 459 as a mistype tritype makes a bit more sense. I didn't realize it was becoming relevant again, no matter...|||I think the determining factor will be how open you are to each other's presence, perspective, and overall personality. There are 4s I roll my eyes at, and there are 4s who hate my guts. But my best...|||I liked what Lord B said at the end of their post:    It seems pretty possible. I think mistyping is common and not something to be ashamed of. I do understand that typing as something on a forum...|||AMEN.    Tbh, type 2 is still hard for me to understand, partly because of the varied information on the type and partly because I just have some hang-ups on that information.   Good luck on...|||I've read Chestnut, and decided I didn't much care for her stuff. I will still bring her up as a possible approach for people who seem to need a new perspective when they're trying to figure out...|||Hello, just a couple things this time, I swear    This probably sounds weird, but I really appreciate how strongly you identify with the self-preservation instinct. It's very interesting to me. I...|||What We Do Here - lots of chatting, lots of relating, lurking on the occasional thread about an important aspect of the theory that you somehow missed but explains so much. Ya know. The usual. ...|||I enjoy using personality systems to understand characters too! Helps so, so much|||Lol, I managed to go from INTJ to INFJ with only briefly looking at ENFJ (an INFP convinced me to do it, I blame her). I enjoy the enneagram, but I know it's not for everybody.  Super jealous about...'