'Oh come on #IDontThinkSo.. our cute little mouse is making an effort to come to us.. don't scare him away immediately, let's play a little more first. Or are you bored already?|||Is the bored cat that's giving a mouse that keeps walking by under his nose a whack making an effort?  Hmm, actually never thought of it that way. Meh, still don't. Arrogant mice are fun.|||Me? Effort? Did you see effort somewhere? And feel? Uh: no-thing|||No thanks. One word summary: nothing. Or maybe: death. Maybe.|||Oh dear... we actually have an INTJ trying to out-troll an ENTP. With Googled memes.  Don't you have some lonely science project to tend to today?|||Nah. Now that I know I'm talking to a frog I'm no longer interested.|||Well all of us, every single day of every single year for every single 11 year old we run into. What is Hogwarts btw?|||That's true, we tend to read into people on a rational - and with Fe developped also their emotional - level. It makes us capable of seeing things from their perspective, and even debating them from...|||Am driving the best of both those worlds: a sports convertable.  Decided to skip motorcycles 'till now: I'd kill myself laughing and then regret that later on.|||I'm not fully sure about the ENTP female <> INFJ male dynamics, as I'm an ENTP male.  Emotinally immature ENTP's will have problems in relations with INFJ's, especially if those are young and...|||You mean me? Well I just love me.. obviously.  As long as I'm around it can't. And when I'm no longer around I can't.|||1. I can be friends with any type, as long as they respect my strong individuality, and don't regularly plague me with irrational nonsense. For serious romantic relationships I've specifically...|||mninp: you're making this thing sound like work... :dry::dry:|||Was just explaining how it looks to other people ;)  Simple: kill your pillow, go to bed. Sleeping is so much better on those when they're not moving.|||If I actually had forumposts auto-read to me the computer-voice would probably sound like that yes.  We love both war and people crying. We = pure = evil, don't even try imagining how much :)|||Was begging for a sarcastic answer -> Got prayers answered immediately.  Much obliged ;)|||An ENTP feeling responsible for everyone?? Uh, nope. We ENTP's do our utmost about feeling responsible for as little as possible, unless we actually care or absolutely have to :D  Generally if we...|||Have a different experience in that regard. My mom is ENFJ and when I bring in my (young) female INFJ friends they pretty much fall in love with eachother every single time... tried it with 3 INFJ...|||Nope... I am. And she's a dragon during ;)|||Because when we then thank you it makes it extra special. We like extra special ;)|||I've shown you that plenty but you either reject it or just don't see it. I suspect a combination of both. I should have expected that, and actually I did very early on in our conversation if you...|||Enjoy your continual looking for those incredibly rare fairy-like air-floating intuitives spouting mystcal poetry and looking for ancient objects to idealize @angelcat. This is actually getting...|||@Oswin: nope not going there.   In summary I've rejected both the rigid description/understandings and dogmatic application of the e/i functions-theory. The rest, including reasons why and examples...|||You're talking to a real life intuitive but just flat out refuse to learn anything from it. Well then: stay with your cherished but rigid beliefs and understandings about them. That I can see the...|||Hahaha, it wasn't a LITTLE disagreement.. more like a meltdown.. we were far too deaply involved with one another and emotions got way out of hand :D I wasn't leaving this discussing over you being...|||I've read it. Congratulations, you've aparantly found yourself a real life caricature of an ENFP, that has absolutely not developed and even rejects her Te in every way. She indeed sounds out of this...|||@Aeidrung: I've gotten into quite an emotional fling with an INTJ once and it didn't end well for either of us due to rash decisions taken by us both. It happens, if you push my core enough... I've...|||@angelcat: Oh dear, is that really all you've gotten from all those things I wrote down?  Plus you've actually missed those things I (and even you yourself!) pointed out where her N shows through?...|||Haha, I actualy expected that one, you don't disappoint. Aparantly you've been missing that I've considered and debated the alternatives proposed, then rejected them one by one, and have used several...|||That might be your perception of Ne. Your perception and the one described there by arkigo's is only the extreme and rigid caricature of Ne as described by the funtions theory.  To give you someting...|||That consitent individualistic temperament can't be attributed to Fi, as from my list only the INFP is an Fi dominant. The INTJ is an Fi tertiary. All the others (INFJ,ENTP,INTP) are Fe...|||@Oswin: affirmative, what the Joker does is exactly how ENTP's process information and act on it... and 'coincidentally' I fully understand his rationale, temperament and way of thinking too... so...|||@Oswin & @angelcat: from these clips (can't open the warehouse 13 one) I can't judge their characters, but I'm not seeing classic ENTP as you apparantly do, and from what I've seen I don't really...|||As stated before: those function descriptions of Ni<>Ne and Si<>Se are far too rigid.  I flip-flop Ni/Ne at will and use both functions. Same for Ti/Te. I see the same thing with Fi/Fe users, e.g....|||Then we are going to disagree :)  You are attributing Merida's actions to irrational emotions and internal moral ethics. I am not, as I'm attributing them to tought out and well considered...|||Yet I see people fit their formula's quite snug. As said: the people I've typed (quite a few) and asked to do a test (or two) have up until now never returned with different letters then the ones I...|||Looking at the the description you give of your sister I truly wonder if she's really an ESFP. This is generally how I know ESFP's to be: looking to interact with/in groups and good with those groups...|||I know many SP's (they make up quite a large piece of society) and wholeheartedly disagree. Both SJ's and SP's are often found in for example the army and the police as careerboys there. SP's often...|||@alittlebear:  Haha, no that's not it at all.. I'm certainly not going to be hurt or offended over a discussion on a message board, and believe you are fully entitled to your opinion. It's just that...|||There's a bunch of things wrong with both that theory (and/or dogmatisms) around the functions (in this example: Ne/Se), then with the way it is applied and then with the way you guys are 'reading'...|||I understand the functions dear, I also understand how they work together.. as I understand them they fit in with MBTI quite perfectly. If applied correctly there is no seperation between the two,...|||As stated: I'm far more interested in practical application of MBTI, and it absolutely works in the real world. People, especially iNtuitives, generally immediately recognize themselves in it after...|||Anyone can do quick wit? Are you kidding me? Let me rephrase: almost no-one can do quick wit when compared to an ENTP.. they only believe so up until the point they try to actually compete. ENTP's...|||I have found those character descriptions to be largely accurate IRL.  I added this later-on, but you missed it in your quote.  Talking functions, she uses: Ne / Ti -> for quick wit, future...|||I'm wasn't talking about relating to her.. I'm talking about her functions being the very same as mine ;)   About the ExxP we fully agree. It's possible the things I've posted don't matter to you,...|||Let me put it like this: her way of perceiving the world, response to traditions and responsibilities & opinions of others, her verbal responses, lack of respect for authority, and her way of...|||Merida is clearly an iNtuitive: completely spontaneous, free spirited, against tradition and rules, self-seperated from the heard/hoard.  I think her either ENFP or even more likely: ENTP with...|||This sequence of posts makes me actually *think* you're an INFJ... I have several INFJ friends and both the subject and the way of approaching it sounds exactly like stuff they'd contemplate ;) ...|||Why are we even having a debate on functions?  The above scentence is pretty much the core definition of a J, and pretty extreme at that.  The whole fact that you - as a T - are still so bothered...|||Exes generally refrain from stalking me, so that helps... Seems you've run into a seriously messed up F: he feels bad, so he's going to make you feel bad. Doesn't sound like you're having the usual...'