'I would argue that Japan is more 2 rather than 6. Both emphasized on keeping harmony and peace, but I see Japan as less 'questioning the authority', and more 'dancing with the flow'.  A lot like...|||Sugar, colorful sugar. Honey honey. Tastes wonderful, especially with milk. Especially with flavored milk. Sugar! I think there are a lot of brands in many countries.  Perhaps adding them with...|||It pisses me the fuck out when I ended up failing my own ideals. When I got tainted. It pisses me the fuck out when I found myself being helpless. Knowing I'm right but not knowing what to do....|||First of all, hugs to all of you. I hope you're feeling better soon....  ....But feeling better does not necessarily mean the bitterness will subside. That's the sad thing.  However, you can do...|||First of all, thank you, ESFJs or non-ESFJs, for the insights. I'm learning a lot about all of your types from your posts.  I cannot add anything else, except anecdotes that yes- I personally have...|||I'm glad that the situation seemed to be mended off for the better; for both you and her. Hopefully you can grow better and hopefully she can also respect your need for quiet times.  *hugs!*  For...|||For me, Se is....well, the drive that pushes me to where I want to be. Sometimes it meant brute strength, to just DO DO DO DO DO-- sometimes it meant flexibility, anticipation, fluidity to deal...|||That is an interesting aspect-- I certainly didn't think about it that way before. :| I wonder if there's any way I can peek into the Si (oh god, Si.) to figure out whether I'm traipsing into a...|||I see :D That...is quite difficult.   That actually reminds me that sometimes the ESFJs I know did act or made statements like what you made. XD Yes, there's almost always something they, you,...|||I agreed. I was wondering if that too will effect ESFJs because they are one of the most social people. I guess so, yes.   Oh, I see. *nods* good to know.   Yeah. I cannot help but compare and...|||I know a bit of ESFJs.  They are shiny. Absolutely so. Very social, outgoing, seemingly being able to make friends with everyone and anyone... The charisma, the joie de vivre; they seem strong and...|||And...  I read this; and I got scared. Socionics - the16types.info - Supervision-relations|||It hasn't ended yet, but you just described the railway of a relationship I'm currently having, and I shall take this uncomfortable feeling as a praise for your aptness, at least in my personal case....|||As a Fe aux, I can say that it is partly true.  I'm still Ni dom-- I will become a hermit and ponder and ponder and think and think and think and FOR FUCK SAKE THINK.  But there will be points...|||Hello, good people of Personality Cafe, and ESFJs in general; Fe salute *runs*  I'm in a journey of learning more about you guys, and I have a peculiar questions to ask; please feel free to be...|||So..seeing that with the more awareness of personalities differences...I would like to ask for some business book recommendation..  It would highly seemed that I need to jump in the world of an...|||It's not something new in terms of message, but it surely is new, adorable, and definitely heartwarming in terms of how it's presented :)|||Yay, just had another clash against my father. o/ (Hint: My post in the  ESTJ forum, works very well if you want your ESTJ to be crazily  frustrated with you)  Basically the problem is, my life...|||...my mother is an ENFP. My father is an ESTJ. They divorced, somewhat. :| It's..tragic if you ask me. :| (I hope you'll never see this happening)  My father's main point is that she always plays...|||*hugs everyone here*  Each of us have our own problems, and I hope each of us won't be beaten by life. I hope everyone will be strong !  Including me.|||I have an ESTJ father. That should say a lot.  Yeah, I have. I've spent about years and years...probably my whole life, thinking that he's trying to pop my dream, bring me back to earth, and...|||Define function, really. :|  I see, I think of something, I react to it..... *runs away*  But as per INFJ's sensitivity....I often analyze something depending on how it -should- feel, and react...|||Yeah, a lot of good information here applies to me too. Have imagined about it activated, and seen it actually activated in one simple sentence....it kinda thrown me off the balance.  Part of it...|||Eh...me?  ....A friend said I have this kind of expression too, kind of like >: | or T_T, and I do notice I tend to...pull this kind of expression. What goes into my mind? Basically I'm...|||Hmm.  *hugs* I hope it'll get better. :) it must have been bad for you.  Her interest aside, what are you planning to do about this matter? What do you think you can do to her, at least for the...|||Can you explain more about this?|||I think it's quite easy to be friendly *in the least, commonplace definition*, but not so easy to consider one a friend.   And strangely, when I consider one a friend, I began to rant and/or show...|||A lot of things; for example, my old iPod. Or my old PC. I still kept my old iPod and still using my old PC, for nostalgia's sake.|||Just be yourself. AFAIK, they don't really like to play games....and changing yourself because of someone else won't do any good to you. And consider the circumstances, too. ENTJ -is- that kind of a...|||Kinda... it's a kind of compromise, I suppose. Between the personal desire to help and/or understand, and the personal fear of being rejected..... comes the defense mechanism.|||Sometimes. The politics in my country are MESSY and...pretty much headbanging-inducing.  I learned to (somehow) close my senses and move on, but it still hurts. It's generally a sense of WTF are...|||[quote=kdm1984;358704] Do you have a tendency to brainstorm and come up with various, perhaps unrelated, ideas on how to do something? Depends. Overanalyzing, yeah; but I can come out with millions...|||I am an INFJ and I am a human who's simply trying to be better.|||/raises hand  well, imperfection is humane, but humans can reach divinity if they wanted to.|||I'm doing fine with most ENTJs, providing they have past their 'A God Am I' phase. Otherwise I'm running away. FAST. And the interests have to be clicking; it's best to keep it professional /...|||yeah; Ni is pretty wild, and we have Ni as our dominant function. Go figure.  To me it's like.... a) random. In my imagination, it's like closing your eyes and trying to pick something in a...|||Hee...quite a topic here. I wish it's here 4 years ago. :P  as a fellow INFJ with (failed) experience approaching an ENTJ, I would like to try to give my insights, and at the same time, am asking...|||Yeah; but more like, they all tried to force their own worldviews to me. And it's not done properly. Thus I backed out.  I think it's a problem related to expectations. And for me, the key is...|||Yes.  I'm good with maps, but in my town maps aren't really useful. And my visual memory...is spent on other, more useful things.  I can navigate myself quite well in malls or buildings, but NOT...|||I sometimes pondered whether I might be better off alone than with the wrong person.  but  of course one have to try to find the person themselves before ever finding the right one?  Sooo..yeah....|||Oh; hi there. We seems to have similar problems. Although I'm still in the choosing process. Also, congratulations for being accepted!   Thanks; I think I should apply this some time after now......|||I.... I don't know. I CAN talk about bodily functions, some rudest sexual behaviours in a quite detail just like describing the weather, but I don't think it's innocent. AT ALL.  Innocently rude?...|||I can see the natural tendencies, and I give all of you props for it. :D|||Mine... nyeh, the remnants of my once P-ness makes me AFRAID to see beyond a year. Am trying to change that, tho. I found it doesn't suit me anymore. So...this topic quite helps. ENTJs surely can be...|||A saint. Unwavering in their faith, with all the support one can give... And a wise man.  or the protective hero.  But a saint is more ideal to me.|||It all lies into the attitude.  You can be the humblest person and still not be liked (or liked for all the wrong ways), or becoming that admirable, charismatic, passionate and likeable leader, or...|||I tried defining them (Ss) and mostly teenagers, by asking: 1) What's more important to you, your accomplishment, or your goals? (I expect the S to say accomplishment) 2) Hey, what's your goal...|||Yeah. I think it's a very humane and understandable reaction, given the context of 'something that's illogical to us'. It's just some express it in a way better than others, in different ways. I...|||It's kindof funny seeing life made in terms of programming, but it do, and it works.  The steps given are pretty ordinary, but:  This statement is pretty new. I'm getting used to hear you can't...|||Dad : ESTJ (yes, I concur. Very hard to please, sticks to the 'usual' / 'the one that works') Mom : ENFJ'