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4. <del> This specification defines the JWT Issuer Metadata to retrieve the JWT Issuer Metadata configuration of the JWT Issuer of the JWT.  The JWT Issuer is identified by the </del>  <del> claim in the JWT.  Use of the JWT Issuer Metadata is OPTIONAL. </del>  <del> JWT Issuers publishing JWT Issuer Metadata MUST make a JWT Issuer </del>  Metadata configuration available at the path formed by concatenating the string

Reviewer comments:
This PR introduces the following changes: renamed JWT Issuer Metadata to JWT VC Issuer Metadata which - moved JWT VC Issuer Metadata to the end of the specification for editorial reasons
3 approvals, resolved merge conflicts, merging
Every entity in the OAuth/OpenID is potentially a JWT issuer, then I found the name of this endpoint misleading. Considering that this brand new specification defines a profile for SD JWT verifiable credentials, I'd propose to change the pathname to .well-known/vc-jwt-issuer
The idea is that the JWT Issuer could be used with any JWT, not necessarily VCs only.
NAME what do you think?
NAME is there a reason the JWT Issuer should not be used with something else than VCs?
There are well known endpoints like openid-configuration or openid-federation that publish entities metadata, including jwks Since this specs Is related to VC based on sd-jwt, this specs should not be in conflict to pre existing Oauth2/OpenID ecosystem SD-JWT-VC should define only the resources needed for the solution It defines
I'm ok with the proposed change. I anyway assume we will add VC issuance specific metadata in the future (it is not limited to key distribution).
I agree NAME Key attestation alone Is not enough, this endpoint deserves a proper identity with a specialized protocol metadata Also the verifiable attestations related to the entity may be available in it
To me this sounds reasonable. I will update the spec accordingly.
(As a record, I repeat my question I made elsewhere in the past.) Why is it necessary to introduce a new path, especially if the expected content is just like below (excerpt from "")? Isn't the JWS header parameter (RFC 7515 ) like below sufficient?
(For the record, I repeat my answer I gave on Slack and add more context) The jku header is not sufficient for the intended purpose. The purpose of the well-know endpoint is to establish a stable issuer identifier independent of the jwks location. This issuer identifier can be used in other structures to establish trust, e.g. it can be added to trusted lists (verifier end or trusted 3rd party). Additionally, it fits nicely with the other well-known locations, like openid-credential-issuer and oauth-authorization-server. So the issuer can distribute the role specific metadata in different location residing under the same issuer identifier. And not to forget, this well-known location also could work well with openid-federation. Moreover, any additional VC issuer metadata we will come across can be added to this endpoint. BTW: I think a dedicated issue would be the better place for this discussion.
I am actually in favor of . This mechanism is meant to be general enough to be used with not just a 'verifiable credential'. and I don't think anyone would think to use with ID Tokens and Access Tokens, UserInfo responses , etc. that are JWTs.
I understand your point NAME below my thoughts Why defining jwt-issuer for general purpose in a spec that's specialized for VC? Requirement: definition of a specs in IETF for general purpose JWT Issuer metadata (enabling client metadata, that today is only available in openid-federation...) I agree that jwt-vc-issuer semantically collides with credential-issuer, and we should not do collisions why we can't use .well-known/openid-federation? Federation entity discovery is required for the entities that builds trust chain according to the federation specs, nothing prevent to publish all the metadata of all thw "JWT-role" in a single metadata, that should not be signed if request (content-type) asks it in plain text I suggest to use to consolidate a unique way to publish all the metadata types and roles of an entity. coming back to the name change proposal. Why we use the term since the metadata contains also general capabilities not related to the issuance? in a more general purpose way, wouldn't it be a ? then the question: if that entity has more functionalities and roles, being at the same time a RP and a AS, how the metadata should be organized? We've resolved this issue in openid-federation, with the below schema, where a RP can be also a OP, AS, Client, credential-issuer and so on: URL
I'm a little embarrassed, but to be honest, I still don't understand the reasoning. "A stable issuer identifier" is represented by the claim, not by the URL of the well-known endpoint, isn't it? A possible reason for necessity of a well-known path I guess is "to make sure that the host identified by the issuer identifier actually exists and is accessible, by forcing JWT verifiers to access a path under the domain." An example with concrete values would be "to make sure that the host identified by the issuer identifier actually exists and is accessible, by forcing JWT verifiers to access a path () under the domain ()." It might be beneficial to define as the ultimate fallback general-purpose option for locating the public key required to verify the JWT's signature (not as the sole rule for every VC to follow), especially when it is challenging to reach a consensus on a single method within a limited timeframe among the following. starting with Others However, maybe I'm still missing something, sorry.
The well-known endpoint is indeed also a stable identifier. But it depends on a certain well-known location, i.e. different well-known locations are different identifiers. I'm looking for a stable identifier for the issuer that works across .well-known locations and is not bound to a certain key. That's pretty simple with well-known locations as the iss value can be extended by several different .well-known locations, but the identifier is still the same, right? So for example, the issuer could use the jwt-issuer mechanism share keys and (at the same time) be part of an OpenID Federation as shown in the following: /.well-known/jwt-issuer /.well-known/openid-federation The same issuer's URL could also at the same time used in an external data structure at the verifier or at a trusted 3rd party. Effect: I can establish trust in a certain issuer/entity/server that works across different roles/perspectives. I hope that explains better.
this would allow an entity to use different keys to sign ID Tokens, VCs, access tokens, etc.
my question is how to specify different capabilities for different metadata protocols? this is an example in oidc federation URL here we're saying, this is the wallet provider metadata, where multiple metadata/roles cohexists in a single .well-known how jwt-issuer endpoint achieves this?
If the JWS header indicates that the JWT is a VC (e.g. ), the following paths also can work. (defined in OID4VCI) (proposed by this issue) I'd like to understand why the generic name is chosen. The generic name is subject to interpretation where authorization servers, relying parties and any JWT-issuing systems should provide to expose their metadata (at least or ) as the last resort. What if one server behaves as both an authorization server and a credential issuer? Should the authorization server publish the same content at both and ? Should intermediate authorities and trust anchors of OIDC Federation also provide ? Such a conflict is what I'm (and ordinary server implementers will be) concerned about. The latest draft of "" defines and jwt-issuer metadata. If so, there is no reason to prevent adding the same metadata to OID4VCI as well. Basically, I believe the metadata should be added to OID4VCI regardless of the discussion about jwt-issuer.
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NAME raises an important question that we need to address, at least by giving guidance. I don't have a good answer to that at the moment. Besides that, I don't see a need to rename to .
NAME correct me if I'm wrong. I understand you prefer over , right? And whether the key data will be added to the is a different topic (that's how I read your last statement). Please conform.
We will need more discussions on that topic. Potentially at IETF 117. This means, we won't be able to resolve this issue for our individual draft 03.
We had a small discussion on this and I created a new issue so we can separate between the 2 discussions overlapping here (name of the endpoint and intended usage).
Regarding the path, I have been losing confidence in my own opinion. As an implementer who has implemented numerous OAuth/OIDC specifications and been leading development of Authlete that holds the most OpenID certifications in the world, my intuition told me "The path should be avoided due to possible conflicts with other specifications." However, I haven't received as much support for my opinion as I expected. For now, I will implement my OID4VCI implementation using the path. Please let me withdraw my opinion.
I agree the position of NAME while in the italian solution we're implementing openid-credential-issuer as metadata within the .well-known/openid-federation endpoint, according to OpenID Federation 1.0. This doesn't prevent to include also a jwt-issuer metadata type but there's the decision by our side to wait and the same time give evidence of our implementation to help the consolidation of the vc-jwt-issuer specs
NAME An off-topic question out of curiosity. If an authorization server / OpenID provider and a credential issuer are hosted on the same server, the payload of the entity configuration published at of the server contains the following, right?
Hey NAME I'm sure that you meant The answer Is yes, even if we have used a snake case like here URL It's still an initial draft without an official release, several editorials and implementation compromises needs to be resolved but the most of the work Is there, feelfree to open issue for discussion here URL
To make progress with this. Are folks comfortable with renaming "JWT Issuer Metadata"? And if so, would folks be fine with "SD-JWT VC Issuer Metadata" or "VC Issuer Metadata"? I like "VC Issuer Metadata" better because it is more future looking. What do folks think? cc NAME NAME NAME NAME NAME After we agreed on a new name I'd ask NAME to update PR .
Agree that "jwt-issuer" is too general and am in favor of a renaming.

Revised text:
4.  <ins> This section defines encoding, validation and processing rules for presentations of SD-JWT VCs. 4.1. If the presentation of the SD-JWT VC includes a Key Binding JWT, the Key Binding JWT MUST adhere to the rules defined in Section 5.3 of I- D.ietf-oauth-selective-disclosure-jwt. </ins>  <ins> The Key Binding JWT MAY include addtional claims which, when not understood, MUST be ignored by the Verifier. 4.2. The following is a non-normative example of a presentation of the SD- JWT shown above including a Key Binding JWT: </ins>  <ins> In this presentation, the Holder provides only the Disclosure for the claim . Other claims are not disclosed to the Verifier. The following example shows a presentation of a (different) SD-JWT without a Key Binding JWT: 5. This specification defines the JWT VC Issuer Metadata to retrieve the JWT VC Issuer Metadata configuration of the Issuer of the SD-JWT VC. The Issuer is identified by the claim in the JWT.  Use of the JWT VC Issuer Metadata is OPTIONAL. Issuers publishing JWT VC Issuer Metadata MUST make a JWT VC Issuer </ins> Metadata configuration available at the path formed by concatenating the string