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system: You are Michael Lodico, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Marie Anderson about "Poss. Help".

They wrote:
MA> Searching for brother - BN: William Gary Brown  8/30/48 -
MA> Florcen Crittendon Home - Philadelphia.  Dr. James
MA> McLaughlin.  Adoption Agency: Children's Home Society.
MA> Family Court of Philadelphia.  BM:  deceased - Dorothy
MA> Helen Brown Gambal.  Brother just learned in 1994 of
MA> William -- would like to establish immediate contact.
MA> Anyone with information, please contact Marie Anderson,
MA> Richmond, VA via this BBS - The Big Deal!  Important
MA> medical information to be conveyed.  Thank you!

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assistant: TO:      MARIE ANDERSON
SUBJECT: RE: 8/30/48-M-PHILADELPHI
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On 1 Apr 96 09:39am, Marie Anderson wrote to All:
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Hi Marie,
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I read this message and I am wondering if I might be related to this person.
I am also adopted but have found the following info:
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B-mom: Emily Mary Brown, maybe related to Dorothy Helen Brown as I don't know
if she had any sisters.
G-parents names: Sidney V. Brown and Margaret J. Rogers Brown. *
They were from MA but I haven't been able to find any info on them since my
birth on May 24, 1948. I believe they may have left the state. *
As far as medical info goes I have Thalasemia also known as Cooley's Anemia
and may have received it from my B-mom.
*
If any of this info fits with your clients profile or if there is a
connection family wise I would like to contact him to further the info
exchange. I can be contacted at Pipeline BBS or at my E-mail address.
michael.lodico@dreamers.groupnet.org
*
Here's hopeing
Michael Lodico
f/k/a Michael Dennis Brown and still searching.
system: You are Julie Marshall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Steven Sterner about "Re: Searching for....".

They wrote:
SS> think both of you are assuming that it was not done so with a
SS> smile...
SS> perhaps 6 TIMEs before today  and if I am not mistaken twice was in the
SS> past week or so to you Julie?
SS> All I ask is don't be so quick to judge someone you have never met and
SS> have only read 100 words from and think you know whether or not they
SS> have an attitude...it is assumptions like that that keep alot of
SS> Reunions from taking place.

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assistant: Guilty
Correct
Heavy, but possible. I guess when you've been through the h*** some of us
ave
you tend to loose some of your humor (all "you"s collectively speaking). I do
say, I can't see if you're smiling...This and the Birthmother Echo you
mentioned
are very different than many. Like the missing persons, especially the
children.
We hurt so much that often we do forget to smile and that others smile too. I
have also seen and experienced the anxiety of my life in these echos and the
people that post in them. I think our drive comes from the first hand
motions
we have felt and knowing how to emote with the others that search.
Fortunately, by the Grace of God, my personal search is over. Now I just want
to help, not offend others. This experience has taught me a lesson I seem to
need to repeat from time to time, that is to MMOB.
Julie
... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic!
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system: You are Marie Anderson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Polly Fitt-Jones about "Tn Children's Home".

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assistant: Great Polly!  Not unusual.  My birth mother did exactly the same thing. Time
has a habit of healing lots of wounds -- and it's a real shock to be found, I
understand, but do let me know more how the contact was made and how she
reacted.  Maybe I can read some insight into it.  Marie
system: You are Janelle Collins, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Scott Fletcher about "Re: FINDING A PERSON".

They wrote:
> last night there is a 1-800 number a person can call and for $40
> they will
> find the person for you.
> Does anyone know the number?

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assistant: I think the one you are thinking of would be...1-800-US SEARCH.  They
advertise on tv alot, and although i have yet to hear if they do the job or
not i havent heard BAD things about them. Good Luck.  Janelle
system: You are Janelle Collins, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Judy Carter about "Re: REUNIONS: GOOD/BAD".

They wrote:
> compare me.Oops New Thought- I went through the same turmoil so to
> speak on what to Call my B-father,I decided to refer to him as my
> Birth father versus Biological father (much to long) and I didn't
> want to call him Dad as I had a Dad,and he died. I made a slip up

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assistant: Just wanted to jump in here, cuz I thought maybe I was the only one with the
"Gee, what do I call you now that I found you" syndrome.  I still havent
really figured it out, and to make matters worse both my birth father and
adoptive father have the same first name!  Anyway, "father" sounds stuffy,
and Dad a little wierd, and if I say Bob, then everyone says "which one"....i
never thought about this when i was searching......have a good day!! janelle
PS...any suggestions or insights on to how to work this out would be helpful
if you got 'em!! :)
system: You are Jody Gillispie, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Peg Dietrich about "Can You Help?".

They wrote:
PD> I sent this out earlier this month, and didn't get any response.
PD> Am I making it out??  Can anybody help me?  Am I in the wrong Echo?
PD> My Mom was born in 1937.  My grandparents were divorced not too long
PD> after that.  In 1945, her half-brother Joe was born.  They never knew
PD> each other until a couple of years ago, and now they are best of
PD> One day while looking at his birth certificate, he noticed that it
PD> mentioned
PD> that there were two prior live births.  They don't know if there is
PD> another
PD> half-sibling somewhere, or if it was a mistake, or what.
PD> Now for the question.  Where do they start?  Joe was born in Toledo,
PD> What do they do?  My grandmother has passed away, and I don't know if
PD> keeps in touch with any of his mom's family.
PD> Any help we can get would be greatly appreciated!
PD> Peg

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assistant: On (17 Jun 96) Peg Dietrich wrote to All...
Peg...your post  made it out to Oklahoma.  I don't think people are ignoring
your question.  Its' just a very difficult  type of case to work on.  I'm in
a similar situation and after I read your post I was hoping to see some good
advice that I might be able to use also.
I'm sure you've run thru all the possiblities in your own mind.  Either it
was a clerical error, or there was another child born.  Either that child is
now an adult out there somewhere, or died young.  I WISH I could offer you
some good advice, I just can't think of any.  The people on this echo are
good folks.   If someone sees a way to help you they will let you know.
Maybe, like me, they were hoping someone who knows more than they do will
jump in with the right idea.
best of luck.... Jody
riends.
Ohio.
oe
system: You are Jody Gillispie, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Joan Schultz about "advice".

They wrote:
JS> I am an adoptee searching for her birth parents.  I have tried a number
JS> of things to no avail.  I tracked down the name of the hospital I was
JS> more than likely born at and the library in that town has newspapers on
JS> micro film.  I copied down the name and phone numbers and want to call
JS> the library and request a copy of all the birth annoucments printed in
JS> June of '67,(of course I am willing to pay the cost to do this). What I
JS> want to ask is for some advice on what I should tell them I need this
JS> for. I know as soon as you say "I am adopted..." all kind of walls go
JS> up.  I also know that it is a stretch of a possability that my birth
JS> would have been printed, but all I have left are long shots.
JS> Also, is there a way that I can get a copy of my hospital record even
JS> though I have no names, only the date (no time, attending physcian..)?
JS> Thank you in advance for your help.
JS> Joan Schultz

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assistant: On (17 Jun 96) Joan Schultz wrote to All...
 Joan...  maybe if you fill in a few more details someone will come up with
 a suggestion for you.  What state were you born in?  When were you born?
 What kind of adoption was it? (private? agency?)   Have you been able to get
 any non-identifying information from whoever handled the adoption?
 There are often paths to follow that are very specific based on this type of
 info.   Post it and you could get ideas in reply.
 You are right that in some cases using the "A" word (adoption) will close
 doors.  It's just a fact we have to work with.   Best of Luck...Jody
system: You are Glynis Palmisano, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Big Deal Bbs about "ADOPTEE SEARCHING".

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assistant: HI.  MY HUSBAND AND I ARE TRYING TO SEARCH FOR HIS BIRTH FAMILY. WE HAVE LOTS
OF TIDBITS OF INFO, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO KNOWLEDGE TO USE IT.  WE ARE HOPING
SOMEONE MIGHT GIVE US SOME CLUES!  IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
HERE IS THE INFO WE HAVE:  HE WAS BORN "PATRICK JOSEPH MANDARO" ON JUNE 6,
1961 IN JAMAICA, QUEENS, NY.  ON THE NYC BIRTH INDEX HIS MOTHER'S LAST NAME
IS LISTED AS MESSER (WHICH IS ALSO ON THE BABY BRACELET HE WORE IN THE
HOSPITAL).  HIS ADOPTION PAPERS LIST HIS BIRTH LAST NAME AS "MANDARO." HE WAS
ADOPTED BY PRIVATE ADOPTION BY BILL AND GERTRUDE PALMISANO, ADOPTION DECREE
ISSUED BY THE HUDSON COUNTY NJ SURROGATES COURT, JERSEY CITY, NJ ON MARCH 8,
1963.  HE HAS BEEN TOLD THAT HIS MOTHER'S FIRST NAME WAS GLORIA AND HIS
FATHER'S FIRST NAME WAS JOE.  THEY WERE MARRIED BUT NOT TO EACH OTHER AND HE
WAS THE RESULT OF THEIR AFFAIR.  SHE SUPPOSEDLY HAD TWO CHILDREN OF HER
MARRIAGE OLDER THAH HE WHICH SHE KEPT.  HER ADDRESS AT THE TIME OF THE BIRTH
WAS SUPPOSEDLY 9111 218TH STR, QUEENS VILLAGE, NY.  THE ATTORNIES THAT
HANDLED THE ADOPTION WERE WITHAM & MARKEY OF NJ (WITHAM BEING HIS ADOPTED
MOTHER'S BROTHER AND HIS GODFATHER).  THE LAWYER SAYS HE CANNOT GIVE ANY MORE
INFO. WE PETITIONED THE HUDSON COUNTY COURT TO OPEN THE RECORDS TWO TIMES AND
WERE DENIED.  WE ALSO CHECKED THE PHONE DISC FOR MANDARO'S...THERE ARE ONLY
39 LISTINGS FOR THE EAST COAST.  WE CALLED MANY AND ALSO SENT LETTERS,
FIGURING SOMEONE HAS GOT TO BE RELATED SOMEHOW.  SO FAR WE HAVE HAD NO BITES.
 ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FANTASTIC!  THANK YOU!
system: You are Glynis Palmisano, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "ADOPTEE SEARCHING".

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assistant: WE'RE NEW AT DOING THIS AT AREN'T SURE IF WE DID IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME..IF
THIS IS REPEATED, WE APOLOGIZE!  MY HUSBAND IS SEARCHING FOR HIS BIRTHPARENTS
AND BIRTH SIBLINGS.  WE HAVE LOTS OF INFO, BUT ARE AT A LOSS WITH WHAT TO DO
WITH IT NOW.  HERE GOES:  HE WAS BORN "PATRICK JOSEPH MANDARO" ON JUNE 6,
1961 IN JAMAICA, QUEENS, NY.  THE NAME ON THE NYC BIRTH INDEX FOR HIS MOTHER
IS MESSER, HIS BABY BRACELET ALSO SAYS MESSER. HOWEVER, ON THE OFFICIAL
ADOPTION DECREE HIS LAST NAME IS "MANDARO." HE WAS ADOPTED BY PRIVATE
ADOPTION IN NJ THROUGH THE HUDSON COUNTY SURROGATES COURT IN JERSEY CITY, NJ
ON MARCH 8, 1963.  HIS MOTHER'S FIRST NAME WAS SUPPOSEDLY GLORIA AND HIS
FATHER'S NAME JOE.  THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY MARRIED BUT NOT TO EACH OTHER AND HE
WAS THE PRODUCT OF THEIR AFFAIR.  HER ADDRES AT THAT TIME WAS SAID TO BE 9111
218TH STR, QUEENS VILLAGE, NY.  SHE WS SAID TO HAVE HAD TWO CHILDREN, A SON
AND DAUGHTER, OLDER THAN HE THAT WERE PRODUCTS OF HER MARRIAGE AND NOT
ADOPTED OUT.  THE LAWYER WHO HANDLED THE ADOPTION IS HIS ADOPTED MOM'S
BROTHER.  OH, HE WAS ADOPTED BY BILL AND GERTURDE PALMISANO (WHO ARE NOW
DECEASED).  WE PETTIONED THE COURT TWICE TO OPEN HIS FILE AND GIVE HIM INFO,
BUT WERE REFUSED.  WE CHECKED ON THE PHONEDISC AND FOUND ONLY 39 MANDARO'S ON
THE EAST COAST AND HAVE BEEN CONTACTING THEM, SO FAR TO NO AVAIL.  WE HAVE 4
DAUGHTERS, ONE OF WHOM WAS RECENTLY DIAGNOSED WITH EPILEPSY...WHICH MAKES MY
HUSBAND ONLY WONDER MORE WHAT COULD BE LURKING IN THE FAMILY CLOSET.  ANY
ADVICE OR ASSISTANCE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.  GOD BLESS!!!
system: You are Glynis Palmisano, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Scott Fletcher about "FINDING A PERSON".

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assistant: The phone number is 1-800SEARC, BUT IF YOU MENTION ADOPTION THE PRICE IS $90
AND THEY MAKE NO GUARANTEES.  THEY ALSO TELL YOU THEY WILL ONLY "ASSIST" YOU.
system: You are Michael Lodico, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Nancy Linde about "RE: SS DEATH INDEX".

They wrote:
ML>> Name: Emily Mary Brown
ML>> DOB: May 23, 1919
ML>> POB: Boston, Suffolk county, Mass.
ML>> SS#: unknown
NL> Michael, I checked the SS record index at the local Family History
NL> Center that goes thru Dec 1994. There is no record of her, so it would
NL> appear that she was still alive then. I don't know when the next
NL> edition will come out.
NL> I was told that there is supposed to be an Internet web page that has
NL> the SS Record index. I don't know which site it may be as I don't get
NL> on the Internet yet.
NL> Hope this helps some, Nancy.

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assistant: On 16 Jun 96 02:10pm, Nancy Linde wrote to Michael Lodico:
Thank you Nancy this does help and raises hope that she is still alive. When
I checked Vital Statistics in Boston I couldn't find any record of her or
her parents. I was looking for a marriage or death certificate for her and I
was looking for a death certificate for her parents but there was nothing on
record except for my birth in 1948. This leads me to believe that they left
the state after 1948. If I could have found her parents death date then I
was going to check the obits for more info on my birth family. I have a copy
of Emily's birth certificate which gave me some info. When you were checking
the SS record did you by any chance see a listing for Sidney V. Brown or
Margaret J. (Rogers) Brown, they were both born in Hyde Park, MA in 1896 or
1897. I am unsure of the year because Emily's birth certificate for May 23,
1919 shows them both as age 22.
I wish I had access to the Internet but I don't as of yet. Again my heart
felt thanks for looking this up for me and God Bless you and yours.
Sincerely
Michael Lodico
f/k/a Michael Dennis Brown and still searching.
 * Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 325
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system: You are Michael Lodico, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Nancy Linde about "SS index".

They wrote:
ML>> Name: Emily Mary Brown
ML>> DOB: May 23, 1919
ML>> POB: Boston, Suffolk county, Mass.
ML>> SS#: unknown
NL> Michael, I checked the SS record index at the local Family History
NL> Center that goes thru Dec 1994. There is no record of her, so it would
NL> appear that she was still alive then. I don't know when the next
NL> edition will come out.
NL> I was told that there is supposed to be an Internet web page that has
NL> the SS Record index. I don't know which site it may be as I don't get
NL> on the Internet yet.
NL> Hope this helps some, Nancy.

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assistant: FROM:    Michael Lodico
TO:      Nancy Linde
SUBJECT: Re: SS DEATH INDEX
On 16 Jun 96 02:10pm, Nancy Linde wrote to Michael Lodico:
Thank you Nancy this does help and raises hope that she is still alive. When
I checked Vital Statistics in Boston I couldn't find any record of her or her
parents. I was looking for a marriage or death certificate for her and I was
looking for a death certificate for her parents but there was nothing on
record except for my birth in 1948. This leads me to believe that they left
the state after 1948. If I could have found her parents death date then I was
going to check the obits for more info on my birth family. I have a copy of
Emily's birth certificate which gave me some info. When you were checking the
SS record did you by any chance see a listing for Sidney V. Brown or Margaret
J. (Rogers) Brown, they were both born in Hyde Park, MA in 1896 or 1897. I am
unsure of the year because Emily's birth certificate for May 23,1919 shows
them both as age 22.
I wish I had access to the Internet but I don't as of yet. Again my heart
felt thanks for looking this up for me and God Bless you and yours.
Sincerely
Michael Lodico
f/k/a Michael Dennis Brown and still searching.
system: You are Marie Anderson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Leonie Boehmer about "NYC Birth Index".

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assistant: Leonie: Glad we got all that straight!  I knew you did searches, but I
thought William Gage not only did the newsletters but also searched -- so
guess you stepped in at the right time, and will you convey this to the
person who asked me in the first place.  On the NYC search, you have to know
the borough to search in.  The birth index is available through on microfilm
with some adoption search groups, and I believe is also available with the
NYC Library. There is a special room you go into to search the index.  I have
all the information if you want to puruse.  Let me know the borough.
Somewhere I have a name of a person who will actually go and look it up for
you -- but I can't recall who it is right at this moment. Maybe it will come
to me.  It may be even someone on this Adoptees' Echo.  You might put up an
SOS to see if someone responds who lives right in NYC.  I assume you are
searching for an adoptee looking for natural parents, right?  Talk to you
soon.  You can fax to me 804-750-2335 if you would like. Marie
system: You are Marie Anderson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Michael Lodico about "Poss. Help".

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assistant: Got your message.  Will compare data you submitted with other information I
have on file for person searching with the birthdate 8/30/48.  You may reach
me privately on America On Line - e-mail address:  Ameliahane@aol.com. Marie
Anderson, Richmond, VA
system: You are Marie Anderson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Julie Marshall about "Portsmouth".

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assistant: Julie -- so sorry you didn't find anything, but I am a strong believer that
all you need is one little break, and maybe with the search techniques you
have provided him with he'll be able to get one tidbit of information.  Yes,
they are delightful people, and I think his son would be pleased if he had
these people had his parents.  The natural father wants to find so badly, and
his wife is just as supportive in his efforts.  I'm glad he provided you with
transportation and covered your costs.  That's fantastic.  Maybe the group in
Newport News can provide some help, and they may even have someone in their
group searching for him.  Try all angles, I say! Don't leave a stone
unturned.  Yes, we people involved in the adoption triad are not out for
"thank-you's, or reimbursement," just the knowledge that more lives have had
closure -- and we played a small part in the reunion process.  I always
appreciate it when someone expresses their appreciation to me -- and it gets
me going for the next case.  Our mutual friend has not phoned me yet to
convey what information he didn't find on his trip, but I assume he'll be in
touch.  I think maybe he should go back to the Dept. of Social Services and
meet with the Social Worker and see if more of the non-identifying
information can be given to him.  Many thanks for your efforts, and I'm glad
you had a day out and it was rewarding to be with some new folks.  Marie
Anderson
system: You are Julie Marshall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Peg Dietrich about "Re: Can You Help?".

They wrote:
PD> Am I making it out??  Can anybody help me?  Am I in the wrong Echo?

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assistant: Peg,
Yes, you're making it to Norfolk Va and I'll try to help, but I hope someone
closer can help you better than I. No, you're right where you belong. This is
for anyone in the adoptee situation searching for anyone in the triad and the
family within that triad. By triad, I mean adoptee, adoptive parents and
irth
parents. We use shortened words like A-Mom, B-Mom to save typing and modem
time.
I think you might first check the hospital records to see if there are any
other clues that may help, like their address at the time of birth. You
could try to contact older families in the neighborhood who may remember
something. The hospital may be noted on the birth certificate.
Also, contact any and all relatives and ask them to dig in their memories,
even if he hasn't kept in touch. At least it's a start. Keep records of
every little bit of information for later reference.
Julie
... Matthew 7:7 |... seek, and ye shall find;
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system: You are Julie Marshall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Joan Schultz about "Re: advice".

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assistant: Joan,
   Just say you're doing geneology research and are looking for a cousin
   born during that time. Good luck, Julie
... Matthew 7:7 |... seek, and ye shall find;
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system: You are Julie Marshall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Vidsnoop about "Re: Adoption".

They wrote:
V> really have a clue as where to start.

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assistant: Start at the city where the adoption took place. There are adoption groups
available all around the world. Look for one in your area via Social
ervices,
adoption agencies, churches and watch the newspaper in your local meetings
section. Maybe someone here can post a group near you. Keep reading and
posting
in this echo. Julie
... Matthew 7:7 |... seek, and ye shall find;
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system: You are Julie Marshall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Janelle Collins about "Re: REUNIONS: GOOD/BAD".

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assistant: My son, reunited almost 2 years now, calls my husband Pop. Maybe you could do
that too.
Julie
... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic!
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