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system: You are Duncan Reid, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jeff Edmonson about "new rules".

They wrote:
JE> What's the deal with midi songs?  A cover is a cover is a cover, right?
JE> If a band goes in a beer-joint and sings "Peaceful Easy Feeling", do
JE> they
JE> owe money to The Eagles?
JE> If a person sits down and performs a cover and/or converts a song
JE> into
JE> Midi format, is it still theivery?

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assistant: Ah Gidday Jeff!
Thursday April 09 1998 20:25, Jeff Edmonson wrote to Moderator:
yup (as long as it is out of time on its copyright)
If they are getting payed for it. That is if it is still covered by copyright
after all this time.
Only if it is still under copyright
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system: You are Adrian Haigh, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Tentrax for Atari".

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assistant: I have recently acquired two copies of the Roland Desk Top Music System
"Tentrax for Atari" and various single sided discs of songs for it.
My problem is trying to get hold of the Roland sound module - either the
CM-32L LA sound module and the CM-32P PCM Sound Module or the CM-64 LA/PCM
Sound Module.
Does anyone know of its existance still or am I barking up the wrong MIDI
tree.  BTW, the program won't work on my STe with TOS  2.06 and my IDE drive
- but it does work when I switch over to TOS 1.62 and run the program from
the A: drive then it runs okay.  I connected the STe to our Casio AP-10
digital piano and it produced most of the sounds - but not all.
If anyone out there has seen or heard of these Roland machines, give me a
blast.  Thanx
Adrian
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system: You are Nancy Wood, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Al Thompson about "new rules".

They wrote:
AT> In a message to Moderator <04-09-98 20:25> Jeff Edmonson
AT> wrote:
E>>  If a band goes in a beer-joint and sings "Peaceful Easy Feeling", do
JE>>  they owe money to The Eagles?
AT> The bar owner is SUPPOSED to belong to either BMI or ASCAP,
AT> which takes care of royalties.  I'm not sure exactly how they
AT> determine what monies are owed.  In other words, I don't know
AT> how ASCAP/BMI knows if a band plays a Pink Floyd tune or not,
AT> which would determine if PF is owed royalties.  In all my
AT> years of bar-band playing, I never thought to ask.

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assistant: ASCAP and BMI used to have 'flat' rates that were charged monthly or
quarterly.
The facility paid by the amount of seating available.  I've known of clubs
that set up huge bars just to cut down on the amount of seating available
when the owners or managers knew one of the performing affiliates'  reps
would be coming by and THEN change the bar out to a much smaller one, so the
seating could go up!
The fees are broken down by seating capacity, something like  up to 100, from
101-300, 301-500, and then above it (figures might have changed over the
years).  Last time I had any 'inside' information as to how much a particular
club was paying - one that seated over 300 was paying close to 1500 a
quarter. One that seated over 1000 was paying around 1500 a month. There was
several bars in Florida investigated back when I lived there because the
clubs weren't paying fees at all to any performing affliate.  Just like the
IRS, there was a possibility of the club getting closed.  The fine for not
having been paying the fees - instead of giving them a possible lower rate,
the clubs had to pay a much higher rate per month/quarter for as long as the
club had been 'officially' open - as far as sales tax and alcohol/liquor
licenses were concerned.
Nancy
system: You are Nancy Wood, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "BONO".

They wrote:
z>>  In other words, I don't know
z>>how ASCAP/BMI knows if a band plays a Pink Floyd tune or not,
z>>which would determine if PF is owed royalties.  In all my years
z>>of bar-band playing, I never thought to ask.
JE> In San Antonio, there was a ruckus a while back about all
JE> that - now, if a business owner has music that's piped into
JE> the place (DMX, whatever) then the business has to belong to
JE> the special arm of either Ascap or BMI (as you suggested)
JE> that would allow them to do such a thing.

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assistant: ASCAP/BMI/SESAC doesn't keep a running 'tab' on the particular songs being
played with live musicians or even with a in-house p.a.  system.  THere's a
flat fee paid per month or quarter depending on how the club owner and the
representative of the particular performing affiliate.
The only 'tabs' that get kept as far as clubs, bars, etc. (besides the
obvious bar tab), is the songs played on a juke-box - and that the jukebox
owner, (who isn't usually the club owner) is responsible for paying.
A song by song for live presentation isn't done.
That will change if the BONO bill (or anything similiar that the Senate may
come up)  becomes law.  As it sets, the BONO bill will cost songwriters
millions of dollars in royalties by freeing up restaurants, clubs and other
venues from having to pay those performing affiliate fees and therefore no
royalties will come in to be disbursed between the published songwriters.
Nancy
system: You are Nancy Wood, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Al Thompson about "new rules".

They wrote:
AT> In a message to Al Thompson <04-11-98 10:14> Jeff Edmonson
AT> wrote:
JE>>  I -really- think, however, that the best way those two Music corps
JE>>  get away with it, is to just have the business owners pay a one-time
JE>>  initiation fee, then a yearly feed to cover all bases.
AT> That would certainly be the EASIEST, but it still doesn't
AT> solve the problem of who should RECEIVE the royalties which
AT> BMI/ASCAP gets.  It can't reasonably just divide the
AT> royalties to every existing copyright holder.

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assistant: It's been a long time since I looked at the paperwork I received way back
when from ASCAP.  Seems there is a fair and equitable distribution of the
royalties performance fees collected.
For what it is worth, the majority of any monies collected comes from sales,
syndicated performances, and from R&M reporting stats from R&M reporting
radio stations.
I used to think that everytime a song gets airtime on radio stations, that
the little pittance that goes to the songwriter and the publisher was paid
each time.  WRONG:  only those stations set up as reporting and monitoring
stations - the ones that the dj's must keep a log of EACH song played - count
in the long run.  There are stations in each market -major, middle, small,
depending on the population of the radio station's listening radius.
The packets from ASCAP come in AFTER the signing of the contract between the
songwriter and the performing affiliate.  One note:  Until the songwriter
becomes at least an associate member (non-published as far as ASCAP is
concerned, giving a year to become published and commercial released
material), then any money generated via any song will go into a slush fund.
Even after the songwriter becomes a member, if there were any royalties
received prior to membership, those royalties will go directly into a general
fund of the affiliate that the member finally joins.  No pre-membership
royalties will be passed on to the songwriter.  (Kinda like the 'fine' for
not being a member prior to releasing the songs to the public!)
Nancy
system: You are Nancy Wood, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Al Thompson about "performing affiliate".

They wrote:
AT> In a message to Richard Jordan <04-12-98 07:44> Jeff Edmonson
AT> wrote:
JE>>  A Cover is a Cover is a Cover, right?  Does MUZAC pay royalties to
JE>>  George Strait for "I Cross My Heart", although he's not singing the
JE>>  song - it's an instrumental cover?
AT> My GUESS is that MUZAK buys the rights to produce a cover,
AT> rather than pay a royalty for each time it is played on their
AT> "network."  I could be wrong.

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assistant: There's royalties paid - but probably more like the flat rate rather than on
an individual song basis.
Nancy
system: You are Al Thompson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Nancy Wood about "Re: new rules".

They wrote:
NW>  ASCAP and BMI used to have 'flat' rates that were charged monthly or
NW>  quarterly.
NW>  The facility paid by the amount of seating available.  I've known of

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assistant: In a message to Al Thompson <04-19-98 19:07> Nancy Wood wrote:
There must some sort of formula that takes into consideration the number of
hours music is played, or something.  Otherwise, a 1500 seat club which only
has music one hour a week will pay much more to ASCAP than the 75 seat club
which has four sets, 6 nights a week.
system: You are Dave Gostl, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Adrian Haigh about "RE:TENTRAX FOR ATARI".

They wrote:
AH> I have recently acquired two copies of the Roland Desk Top Music
AH> System "Tentrax for Atari" and various single sided discs of songs
AH> for it.
AH> My problem is trying to get hold of the Roland sound module - either
AH> the CM-32L LA sound module and the CM-32P PCM Sound Module or the
AH> CM-64 LA/PCM Sound Module.
AH> Does anyone know of its existance still or am I barking up the wrong
AH> MIDI tree. BTW, the program won't work on my STe with TOS  2.06 and

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assistant: Adrian Haigh did willfully write on 04-16-98 (to All ), and I quote...
I've been MIDIing on my Ataris for years and never heard of Tentrax. Its
a sequencer?
Those modules' sounds are what General Midi is based on. As long as
Tentrax uses the standard Atari ST midi ports, any GM module will probably
work. You could probably get a newer, better sounding module for cheap.
Typical for older midi software. You can get newer hassle-free STe
sequencers free on the Internet.
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system: You are Richard Jordan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Adrian Haigh about "Tentrax for Atari".

They wrote:
AH> If anyone out there has seen or heard of these Roland machines, give me a
AH> blast.  Thanx

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assistant: On Apr 16 20:03 98, Adrian Haigh of 2:250/326.4@FIDONET.ORG wrote:
I've got a cm-64 sitting arround gathering dust,
they are not hard to get, seem to go for $150-250 US
depending on the mood of the moment
its sort of a combo of a mt32 and a u110
nice sounds, but limited polyphony
also it is sort of archaic...
Regards,
Richard.
system: You are Rick Nolan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "new rules".

They wrote:
> I've not heard about this - I assume it's something peculiar to your
> side of the pond?
>
JE>> If a band goes in a beer-joint and sings "Peaceful Easy
JE>> Feeling", do they owe money to The Eagles
>
> This is a public performance and, strictly speaking, the
> owner/organiser of the event owes money to the collection
> organisation - PRS in our case, ASCAP in yours - not the artist/s.
JE>> If a person sits down and performs a cover and/or converts a
JE>> song into Midi format, is it still theivery
> It depends on what you mean by 'perform' - if it is in front of a
> paying audience, that would be a 'public performance' and fees would
> be due.  Note that a paying audience does not necessarily have to
> pay for a seat or whatever.  A performance in a public place (such
> as a bar) would also be public.

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assistant: Hi Graeme
12 Apr 98, Graeme Jaye writes to Jeff Edmonson:
Must be ;-)
Ditto here.
This bit is crap,it depends on what you do with said cover,eg,
its no different to singing a song to yourself in the shower.
Some of them should be paying _me_ for the improvements ;-)
When I feel like doing a little Robert Cray or BB King,the braindead
punters request such gems as YMCA :-((((
Regards,
Rick
system: You are Rick Nolan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "new rules".

They wrote:
> Any royalties collected which are not directly attributable to a
> composer are held in a separate account and this is
> eventually divided up between all the composers on the societies
> list.
>
> Although it might seem that it means the top writers tend to lose
> out (which is true) it does mean that royalties are paid to the
> lesser mortals - who might otherwise never see a penny for their
> efforts due to cover artists not even knowing who wrote the original
> they are copying and not filling in the forms properly in the
> first case <g>.
>
> Although there is a degree of inequibility in the system, I've never
> heard anyone *really* complain about it.

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assistant: Hi Graeme
12 Apr 98, Graeme Jaye writes to Al Thompson:
Right,the top guys are making enough that they don't need to worry
about it and the little guy is still getting _something_.
To get more on topic,does anyone know which midi guitar "pickup"
is currently state of the art? and is it any faster changing than
my early Fender/Casio crap ?
Regards,
Rick
system: You are Jose Ramon Garcia, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Yamaha CS1X".

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assistant: Hi All!
Do you know the Yamaha CS1X?
Is it a well Synthesizer?
Sounds as a real analog synth?
I hope your asks..
Thanks and Greetings from Madrid (Spain)
Jose.T.
... Jose.T. From Ruidos BBS (Madrid) Spain  - Music is my life -
system: You are Dave Gostl, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jose Ramon Garcia about "RE:YAMAHA CS1X".

They wrote:
JR> Hi All!
JR> Do you know the Yamaha CS1X? Is it a well Synthesizer? Sounds as a
JR> real analog synth?

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assistant: Hello Jose Ramon Garcia On 04-27-98 you wrote...
Is this a very old model? Or very new?
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system: You are Dave Gostl, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "TELNET BBS??".

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assistant: I'm losing my local Fidonet access very soon.
Anyone know of a Telnet BBS that carries this echo?
Please email me at
dbg01@gnofn.org
if you know of one. Thanks in advance, and hope to stay with Fido,
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system: You are Sundeep Goel, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "wiring diagram".

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assistant: Hi,
I have just bought a Yamaha PSR 320 and I want to connect it to the
sound card in my computer.
I am not able to get the required cable here. So, have decided to
build one myself, could someone please tell me the wiring diagram for
the cable from the joystick / midi port on the sound card to the midi
in / out ports on the Yamaha.
Regards,
Sundeep
system: You are Dave Gostl, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jeff Edmonson about "RE:TELNET BBS??".

They wrote:
JE> telnet:bbs.neverending.com
JE> You're losing your access through Southern Star?

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assistant: On 05-17-98, JEFF EDMONSON was heard whispering...
Thanks, Jeff, but I found a great one at:
telnet://microlink.sadoian.com
Its got usenet newsgroups in QWK format! And about 300 fido echos, and the
sysop will turn on any echo for anyone.
Not really. Our clubs BBS is closing down, and were moving to a web site.
Southern Star is the fidonet hub (or something?) for our BBS. By
coincidence sstar.com is also my ISP.
But to join Southern Star BBS makes no sense to me, its a PC
oriented BBS.
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system: You are Rich Lockyer, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Sundeep Goel about "wiring diagram".

They wrote:
SG> I am not able to get the required cable here. So, have decided to
SG> build one myself, could someone please tell me the wiring diagram for
SG> the cable from the joystick / midi port on the sound card to the midi
SG> in / out ports on the Yamaha.

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assistant: Hello Sundeep!
On 17 May 98, Sundeep Goel wrote to All:
You'd be better of mail-ordering one... they're only about $30, and often
come with sequencer software packages.  As I understand it, there's more to
building one than simply jumpering wires... there are some isolators and
other parts as well.
C-ya! Rich
system: You are Jeff Edmonson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Dave Gostl about "TELNET BBS??".

They wrote:
> I'm losing my local Fidonet access very soon.
> Anyone know of a Telnet BBS that carries this echo?

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assistant: Try neverending.com
telnet:bbs.neverending.com
You're losing your access through Southern Star?
Regards,
-Jeff
system: You are Jeff Edmonson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Dave Gostl about "TELNET BBS??".

They wrote:
> JE> telnet:bbs.neverending.com
> Thanks, Jeff, but I found a great one at:
> telnet://microlink.sadoian.com
> Southern Star is the fidonet hub (or something?) for
> our BBS. By coincidence sstar.com is also my ISP.
> But to join Southern Star BBS makes no sense to me,
> its a PC oriented BBS.
> _  3 Dave Gostl              7   847  78%  1:396/44 *!!!*

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assistant: I'll have to check into that one, as well.
Southern Star (sstar.com) is one of three Fidonet Backbone hubs, in Zone 1
(North America)
So, work up a deal with John Souvestre and get your Fidonet mail *directly*
from Southern Star, via the internet.  Since he's already your ISP, he might
work a pretty nifty deal out with ya.
Been seeing that in several of the echos you're in - what does it mean?
system: You are Richard Jordan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Sundeep Goel about "wiring diagram".

They wrote:
SG> I have just bought a Yamaha PSR 320 and I want to connect it to the
SG> sound card in my computer.
SG> I am not able to get the required cable here. So, have decided to
SG> build one myself, could someone please tell me the wiring diagram for
SG> the cable from the joystick / midi port on the sound card to the midi
SG> in / out ports on the Yamaha.

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assistant: On May 17 18:20 98, Sundeep Goel of 6:606/26 wrote:
I  know    that somewhere buried in all the stuff on my bbs is the diagram
for the adapter, ... and I will forward it when it shows up...
BUT,
finding the 15 pin male plug can be rather difficult,
and you it is not a straight connection,
there are optoisolaters transisters also in the circuit
so,
if you cannot get the adapter which is a stock adapter for most soundcards
I wonder if you will be able to find the parts to assemble the cable.
here you can buy the complete adapter for about $15.00 while buying the
necessary parts at retail [assuming you can find them] came to about $30.00
and if the homebrew cable doesn't work... how  will you know where the
trouble lies? Just a few thoughts... as there are several  gigabites of midi
related materials to sort through to find the text file  diagram [it may take
a week]
Regards,
Richard.
system: You are Bob Sewell, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Sundeep Goel about "wiring diagrams 1/5".

They wrote:
SG> I have just bought a Yamaha PSR 320 and I want to connect it to the
SG> sound card in my computer.
SG> I am not able to get the required cable here. So, have decided to
SG> build one myself, could someone please tell me the wiring diagram for
SG> the cable from the joystick / midi port on the sound card to the midi
SG> in / out ports on the Yamaha.

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assistant: Caught on tape by an undercover CIA agent were Sundeep Goel's words:
    I don't know if the Yamaha's joystick port is wired exactly like the
 Sound Blaster, nor if it even channels the MIDI through the joystick
 port.  But, you asked, and here are several sets of schematics I found
 on the interenet.  I built a version of one of them, just because I
 like doing thatkind of thing, and it works fine.  The main hassle was
 figuring out how to configure the SB card to turn on the joystick
 port's MIDI out feature.
    This is several different messages with slightly different plans and
 parts, but I include them all because each one has better, more clear
 info about one aspect of the hardware than the others.
    Because these are some looong files, I'll split them into about five
 different messages.