system: You are Lee Aroner, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Lan message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Mike Bilow about "NOVELL & WD 6.4GIG".

They wrote:
LA>    Since I AM running HPFS386, this may be why I was starting
LA>    The biggest problem seems to be with a 2 gig drive
LA> partitioned 1.7 gig in HPFS386 and the balance in FAT. Gets
MB> Well, there are probably errors on the FAT partition also, but you don't
> out about them easily because FAT has no internal consistency checking.
> uses doubly linked lists and embedded cyclic redundancy checks to
> number of its internal structures, so CHKDSK or similar utilties can
> corruption much more reliably.
MB> If you are asking whether there is any likelihood that having both a FAT
> HPFS partition makes it any more probable that corruption will occur on
> HPFS partition, then the answer is no.
MB> Don't overlook the obvious, either.  Any drive which frequently reports
> should be examined very carefully, especially with regard to cabling and
> termination.  Write cache comes into play only in terms of maintaining
> integrity of the data after the drive has reported some error condition,
> need to find out why these error conditions are being reported in the
> place.  Assuming you have applied all of the relevant FixPacks, HPFS386
> pretty solid, but you may have SCSI driver or hardware problems.
MB> You can get Seagate's official utility to manipulate the write cache
MB> enable bit on the appropriate device mode page, APSI-WCE, at:
LA>    Got it yesterday. <g>
MB> Let's see if that has any effect.  I think you will need to run that
> with ASPI support loaded, which can be a pain.  You might be able to run
> under OS/2, since VASPI support is provided, but I've never tried it.  I
> be interested to know if that works.
MB> I can save you a lot of aggravation that you will encounter
MB> when trying to make sense of the Seagate docuemtation: for
MB> OS/2, turn off the write cache.
LA>    For Warp workstations, as well as Server?
MB> Yes.  The reasoning applies to any filesystem which can do hotfixing,
> HPFS and HPFS386.  If you run FAT only, then it makes no difference.
LA> And I'll bet that NT on the same machine will turn into a
LA> *real* pig without it.
MB> No, the performance penalty of disabling hardware write cache is
> minimal, as long as there is efficient cache logic at the filesystem
> the operating system.  Most of what hardware write cache does is
> inefficiencies in the filesystem logic.  NTFS is kind of a pig anyway,
> is probably not fair to evaluate it on performance when its stated design
> of journaling will have an inherent performance penalty; NTFS is a lot
> than HPFS386, but this is because HPFS386 does not do journaling.

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   Hmm. Methinks I will try running DOS Norton on the FAT partition.
   (From DOS 7.0).  See what it turns up.
and
the
   No, just remarking on this fact. There are two identical drives
   installed, sequential serial numbers, identical history, and this
   particular partition, which is the only one sized over 509MB, is
   the one that gives problems. There is also a Micropolis drive,
   which has been flawless so far.
   To be fair, the problems first started to surface after I backed
   out HPFS local security. Started getting crashes when building or
   rebuilding the ACL. Moved all data to another server, rebuilt the
   partitions and reformatted clean.
   The errors are now confined to corrupted 386HPFS.LOG and one
   other related (HPFS associated) file (forget the name). Makes
   sense now in light of the caching explaination.
errors
so you
first
s
   Actually, I haven't installed any fixpacks yet. Waiting for some
   cables to get the DAT drive running on this server before I do
   that. I've been reserving judgment until that happens...
under DOS
it
would
   I'll try it. I'm running a Symbios 810 chip with only the
   built-in (Warp & NT) drivers, so I'll only install DOS drivers if
   the Warp method does not come up. Will have to wait till I get a
   backup of that drive, probably next week.
including
   fairly
level in
compensate for
but it
goal
slower
   If only the NTFS journaling actually worked! I've heard several
   horror stories of lost data.
   Do you have any info on the forthcoming IBM journaled system?
                                           LRA
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