system: You are Koos Nolst Trenite, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Channeling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: Insanity of Channeling - Ceanne DeRo15:02:0006/15/97".

They wrote:
>
> On Channelling
>
> "According to the research I have done, a "channelled" writing can
> actually be from many different types of sources -- some good but some
> intent on deception. The criteria to determine this seems to be whether or
> not the so-called channeller is conscious or unconscious. If the person is
> conscious (awake with eyes open) then it generally would be good. If the
> channeller is unconscious (eyes-closed) with some entity using the body
> then definitely not good (despite apparent good information...) [Edgar
> Cayce was in deep meditation...very different from unconscious possession,
> and his work is generally ok]. I believe that truth itself is its own
> authority (in the Gospels and in the Bhagavad Gita there is enough for
> many lives) and any spiritual truth can be demonstrated as such through
> practical living by each of us."
>
> " In each of us there is a higher spiritual self (the Christ
> consciousness, Divine Angel, etc.) and, accordingly, our spiritual
> evolution is to come closer and eventually be one with that higher self in
> full consciousness. The unconscious rendering of our bodies for the use of
> other entities separates us from this spiritual evolution -- this is the
> reason that so-called possession is a bad thing. "
>
> "Any true spiritual being, living on spiritual planes, would communicate
> with us through our spiritual self in full consciousness. The use of
> someone's unconscious body by another entity is always being done on some
> lower level and thus (although those involved may believe that they are
> doing the right thing) there is no access by the person to spiritual
> information. Also, unconscious body possession sets up a very unhealthy
> chemical vibration in the brain cells which usually leads to some form of
> debility. "
>
> "Higher psychism is the faculties of the higher self (Soul and the
> Monad), and lower psychism is the faculties of the personality
> (physical, emotional and mental senses). These lower faculties can be used
> for good or bad. When one is pure, of good character and pursuing a path
> of meditation and service then the higher faculties become available and
> control the lower one's for use in good. Dangers arise when the lower
> (which most animals have to some degree) are focussed on without the
> requisite purity and good values -- and with the right purity and values
> all faculties unfold naturally if and as needed for the good work. Being
> psychic or not in the lower sense says nothing about a person's
> spirituality and advanced souls may or may not use these faculties during
> an incarnation."
>
> "I believe that this issue has arisen today because of the increased
> etheric resonance of humanity and the recapitulatory prevalence of
> etheric vision. This in and of itself can be used for good or bad but
> certainly we can hope that good will come and work for this."
>
> Shanti,
> Patrick Alessandra, Psy.D.
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From: "Koos Nolst Trenite" <Koos.Trenite@trenite.de>
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Original Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 09:45:28 +0100
[repost due to interference]
Well researched and well formulated.
Thank you, Patrick.
Patrick Alessandra wrote: