system: You are Gord Mccool, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Sailing message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Robert Kitson about "Jeanneau de Canada, eh?".

They wrote:
RK>SM>Augustin:
RK>SM>AH=>                      I guess you probably heard that Jeanneau
RK>  >AH=>has start to build their 1996 28.1 and 35.1 in Canada, and
RK>  >AH=>hopefully, will include larger models soon.
RK>Augustin ....
RK>Jeanneau just sold there assets to Beneteau ... there is no more
RK>Jeanneau,  but they do have 5 or 6 boats that were built here to
RK>clear. One of my guys in Montreal has a 28 and has all the prices.  R
RK>U interested ?
RK>SM>Yup - first wind (get it, wind?... Ooooh, I kill me!) I got of it
RK>  >was their ad in SAIL magazine.  I haven't actually SEEN either of
RK>  >those models yet, though, and for that matter - nor has anyone
RK>  >modelselse.  Larger ?... those two sizes seem to be pretty much
RK>  >what the market wants; but I can see Jeanneau wanting to build
RK>  >over here the way Beneteau does in the States.
RK>Someone also told me ( just a rhumor ) that Benneteau is no longer
RK>going to make boats here :-?
RK>SM>AH=>That means that the cost of buying a new one in these
RK>  >AH=>parts should go down since we won't have to deal with the FF
RK>  >AH=>exchange, freight from France, and a high duty rate...
RK>SM>Perhaps.. and I agree that it "should" (note LARGE difference
RK>  >'twixt should and could and would) force the price down: but I've
RK>  >honestly never seen the market retail price of ANYTHING go DOWN -
RK>  >it may stay the same, but never down.  THe idea of getting around
RK>  >all those peripheral costs you're talking about is so the parent
RK>  >company can make more money by not having to incur them; not to
RK>  >pass savings along to the customer. What happened when
RK>  >Toyota/Honda/whoever else began building cars in either the States
RK>  >or Canada?... cost didn't go down - it just held "steady" for a
RK>year or two.
RK>SM>AH=>but I wonder if that will eventually effect the market value
RK>of   >AH=>used Jeanneaus...
RK>SM>Who knows?... the only thing definitive about the market value of
RK>  >ANYTHING is that there is NOTHING definitive about the market
RK>  >value. Used boat prices go up and down with the general state of
RK>  >the economy and the publics ability (and interest) to pay: the
RK>  >rule being any item is only worth what the potential customer will
RK>  >pay.... no sense in building a better mouse trap that costs $15 to
RK>  >produce if the general value of mouse traps is only $1.99!  Their
RK>  >interest in buying a used sailboat?... depends, again, on the
RK>  >general economy and the way it affects peoples' spending patterns.
RK>  >Remember a few years ago when sailboats hit a real slump?
RK>  >POWERboats were all the rage and sailboats, while still very
RK>  >valuable to their owners, couldn't be GIVEN away (figure of
RK>  >speech, only).  Then, later, the fuel prices went WAAAAY up and
RK>  >suddenly people wanted sailboats again!  When their are suddenly
RK>  >100 people wanting to buy a sailboat but there's only 85 of them
RK>  >le on the market, the price (real selling price as opposed to
RK>  >asking price) goes WAAAAY up!
RK>SM>Who knows?... Que sera sera!
RK>SM> * OLX 2.1 TD * Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on
RK>topic... I
RK> * OLX 2.1 TD * Take a sailor to lunch
RK> * S2S Toronto, Ontario  (416) 975-1547

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