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system: You are Hank Ball, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Valery Frosty about "Re: Civil Suits & Social".

They wrote:
VF> Dear Hank,
VF> I'm glad to hear she is doing well.  What kind of company
VF> does she have? It's none of my business really, just
VF> curious.  I have a desk top  publishing business, but
VF> haven't had time to do much with it in quite awhile now.  I
VF> guess one nice thing about being self-employed is that  you
VF> don't have to answer to your boss!  <g>
HB> The Texas judicial system is such a crock!  I'm teaching my children
HB> about the way the Texas system really is; not the way we were led to
HB> believe in school...Unfortunate, but true...
VF>
VF> I know many people that are doing the same thing.
VF> Unfortunately if you  teach your children not to trust the
VF> Child Welfare Agencies and they find out about it, they
VF> really hammer on you for it.  They don't like parents
VF> teaching their children not to trust the "Child Savers".  It
VF> really goes against the grain with them.
VF> Thanks!  A little word of caution though, if you write a
VF> letter to the President of the United States to complain
VF> about your issues, that letter can be passed down to the
VF> agency you're having trouble with and they can use it
VF> against you in a court of law.  Isn't that a comforting
VF> thought?
VF> Yeah, it's kind of hard to be classified as low-life scum
VF> when you've had so much going for you on the outside.  I
VF> worked with a couple of male inmates that were like that and
VF> they had a really difficult time, not only with the guards,
VF> but the parole board and the other inmates.
HB> Val, good luck, and in any case, please keep the faith and keep us
HB> informed...Our prayers are with you and your family...

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assistant: Valery of 1:161/19.0, writing to Hank typed:
Jan has a wedding consulting and concierge business and I work with her in my
spare time (such as it is, ha ha).  Actually, she enjoys working with people
and is doing quite well for herself.
Yes, you are correct, but fortunately, in our case, the CPS worker testified
that Jan was *not* a threat to our own children (imagine that!) and we were
allowed to keep them.  We do not have any dealing with CPS now and are not
having any kind of trouble with them.
I don't doubt this in the least!  If you only knew the particulars in our
case, you would see that ours was a " small-town politics and old money
me."
BTW, so far, Jan and I get along quite well with the parole officer assigned
to her. He sees her a lot at church doing the same thing that she has been
doing for years...conducting the *children's* choir and working in children's
Sunday School and Vacation Bible School...Now, since we are so active in our
church, when she was sent to prison, EVERYBODY in our church knew...do you
think that she could be working in those departments if any one of those
parents even suspected that she was a threat?  Hah on CPS!
This still stands!
Hello to Don!
Sincerely,
            Hank Ball
system: You are George Hero, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "For your info...".

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assistant: ========================================================================
 Forwarded here by George Hero (1:396/17.27)
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 Area:    NETMAIL
 Date:    03 Aug 95  11:03:22  Private
 From:    Cartmill@AOL.COM                                  (396/17)
 To:      George Hero                                       (396/17)
 Subject: Dateline - Wenatchee
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From: "Kim E. Cartmill" <Cartmill@AOL.COM>
Subject: Dateline - Wenatchee
<WITCHHNT%MITVMA.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
     I have heard that the news program Dateline will air its story about the
Wenatchee "Sex Ring" on August 14.
Kim Cartmill
Wenatchee, Wa
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system: You are Valery Frosty, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bill Swan about "Re: V.O.C.A.L. echo".

They wrote:
BS> This is what I get for being out for a while -- I almost missed this
BS> note.  Are you saying that in addition to the VFALSAC echo (this one)
BS> there is *also* a VOCAL echo?  If so, I shall have to ask my board
BS> to carry it.
BS> (I wonder what else I'm missing...)

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assistant: Hi Bill,
YES, there is a VOCAL echo now.  George Wimberly gave me permission to
start it several months ago.  Traffic is sometimes sporadic, but we are
working on getting more people on the echo.  You and your wife would be
a most welcome edition, and if you'd care to pass the word, I'd really
appreciate it.  :)  I also post The NASVO News and The NASVO VOCAL
Colorado News on it.  We'd like to get more VOCAL people to utilize it
even if they are just posting information about the next meeting.
Well, did you know about the Child_Abuse_Issues echo and the
False_Memory_Syndrome echo?  You might be missing out on those as well.
I hope things are going well for you and Kathy.  (I hope I got the name
right.  I was in court today and can't remember much right now.)  Things
are much the same here, my husband just posted about it, so that's about
all the news at this end.  Do let me know if there is anything I can do
for you and your wife.  I would be happy to help in any capacity!
Val
... Child Savers-Another name for the SS and we know what happened there.
~~~ ReneWave v1.00.wb2 (unregistered)
system: You are Valery Frosty, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bill Swan about "Re: Changing things".

They wrote:
BS> I am encouraged to see that beginning to happen.  There is a VOCAL
BS> in the Seattle area which has been operating for several years; the
BS> founder is not a victim.  Several political activists, not victims,
BS> formed the Swan Defense Fund which has made the words "the Swan case"
BS> a terror to our prosecutor, our former state attorney general and
BS> now our judge, as they run for office.  And just last week in
BS> Witchhu.. er, Wenatchee, WA, 2000 citizens, not victims, signed and
BS> submitted a petition for review of the handling of the
BS> child-molestation ring trials going on there.
BS> Things *are* going to change, Hank, they're changing already, but
BS> it's going to take time to *win*.
BS> * OLX 2.1 TD * Life takes you places you had no intention of going.
BS> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
BS>  ! Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15)

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assistant: Dear Bill,
I know you wrote this to Hank and not to me, but I really felt that I
needed to respond...
That is encouraging news and I'm glad to hear it.  I am the local VOCAL
contact person here.  Not much at that moment for meetings, but lots of
support from friends that are not involved in the system.  Some of the
support is local, a lot of it is nationwide, and some of our support
comes from all over the world (New Zealand to name one).  Our case is
becoming known, although I'm certain it will never be as famous as yours
unless I get so desperate that I do something I will regret later on.
Luckily I'm a fairly easy going, forgiving type person, so I don't think
I'll do anything I shouldn't. <G>  The petition sounds like a good idea
though and I'd like to get something like that going that here.
You've got that right!  Today, 8/2/95, has been particularly difficult
for me (2+ hours on the st*nd, I can't t*lk about it) and I really needed
some encouraging words.  One thing in our favor is that when an agency that
is investigating the handling of our c*se asked what we wanted the outcome
to be, our answer was "To make sure that this never happens to someone
else."  This made a big impact on the investigator and caused them to
look at us much more favorably.
Anyway, thanks for the encouragement.  I really needed it and am grateful
that you were the one to provide it. :)
Val
P.S.  I'll be okay.  I'm one tough lady and I'm not beaten yet!
~~~ ReneWave v1.00.wb2 (unregistered)
system: You are Bill Swan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Waco story false?".

They wrote:
>> Subj:   Waco abuse accusition false?
>> I saw the following on the Fidonet VFALSAC (Victims of FALSe ACcusations)
>> "echo" and thought you all might find it interesting.  Does anyone have
>> access to the London Sunday Telegraph, to post the article (or e-mail a
>> copy to me at bill@cygnus.wa.com, please)?  The libraries around here do
>> not have it.
>> -Bill Swan
>>
>It would appear that the posting in question is a FRAUD!
>I logged onto the Telegraph's Web page and, using their "search engine",
>was able to find only four WACO reports, one of which was also found
>by, and was the ONLY report found by, "Jewel", in the last two weeks.
>
>The Telegraph's one story about sexual abuse of a ten year old by
>David Koresh was just about identical to reports that circulated in
>the American press.  If you want to see it, send me your FAX number
>(it's on my "other" computer system which isn't MAC compatible.)
>
>Unless someone can come up with a QUOTED story, from the Telegraph
>or somewhere else, I have to conclude that the following "revelation"
>is pure fabrication!  And a rather dispicable posting at that.
>
>- John D. Perry, PhD, MDiv, FAACS

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assistant: Yesterday I forwarded the posting about Keri Jewel to the WITCHHNT list.
I got the following reply back:
Anyone have a QUOTED copy (with reference)?
 * OLX 2.1 TD * Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.
system: You are George Hero, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "For your info...".

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assistant: ========================================================================
 Forwarded here by George Hero (1:396/17.27)
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 Area:    NETMAIL
 Date:    06 Aug 95  21:52:13  Private
 From:    tgrant@COMTCH.IEA.COM                             (396/17)
 To:      George Hero                                       (396/17)
 Subject: Medical exams
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From: Tom Grant <tgrant@COMTCH.IEA.COM>
Subject: Medical exams
<WITCHHNT%MITVMA.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
        In the three recent child sex abuse cases in which convictions have
been obtained in Wenatchee, medical exams have been used to convince the
jury of abuse.  One of those exams has now been used against two different
defendants to illustrate different sets of facts.
        I'm looking for an expert I can talk to about these medical exams,
and what they mean.  Or maybe I should just post a couple to Witchhunt and
see what people think.
Tom Grant  tgrant@comtch.iea.com
Reporter, KREM-TV, PO Box 8037, Spokane, WA 99202
Phone: 509-838-7373
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system: You are George Hero, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Rick Thoma about "For your info...".

They wrote:
RT> My question concerns reporter Tom Grant.  I was wondering if you knew
RT> anything of him outside of the mailing list, as I draw the inference
RT> the overall tone of his reporting that he is not exactly on the same
RT> bandwagon, so to speak, as many of his contemporaries may be.  Has he
RT> written or broadcast any other items critical of the child protective
RT> services system that you know of?

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assistant: On (05 Aug 95) Rick Thoma wrote to George Hero...
rom
media
Sorry, I don't know much about him either. It does seem important that
while all the media lemmings are running off the cliff, at least one
has enough smarts to stop and look around. This happened with Kelly
Michaels in NJ, too. Reporter Dorthy Rabinowitz never believed Kelly Michaels
was guilty. She was able to find competent legal support for Michaels who
as you know was just set free.
I hope Tom Grant does the same thing. Sooner or later (hopefully sooner)
some hot shot defense attorney will see the opportunity to free scores of
innocent people.
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user: You are replying to All about "More Victims!         1/2".

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assistant: The following is a cross-post from Fido Civil Lib:
===========================================================================
BBS: Peachy Keeno Inn BBS
Date: 08-01-95 (23:45)             Number: 58025
From: JOHN ERLAND                  Refer#: NONE
 To: ALL                           Recvd: NO
Subj: ACTION: Letter writing in      Conf: (162) F_CIVIL_LI
system: You are Don Herman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "More Victims!         2/2".

They wrote:
>>> Continued from previous message

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assistant: RON FORSYTHE   <--- Friendly Police Chief.
CHIEF OF POLICE
CITY OF SUISUN
701 CIVIC CENTER BLVD.
SUISUN CA 94585
RICK FULLER    <--- Fair on gun issues.
CHIEF OF POLICE
CITY OF DIXON
201 WEST A STREET
DIXON CA 95620
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system: You are Don Herman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to George Hero about "For your info...".

They wrote:
GH>========================================================================
GH> Forwarded here by George Hero (1:396/17.27)
GH>========================================================================
GH> Area:    NETMAIL
GH> Date:    03 Aug 95  14:49:02  Private
GH> From:    Cartmill@AOL.COM                                  (396/17)
GH> To:      George Hero                                       (396/17)
GH> Subject: Turn of events
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GH>From: "Kim E. Cartmill" <Cartmill@AOL.COM>
GH>Subject: Turn of events
GH><WITCHHNT%MITVMA.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
GH>Witch Hunters:
GH>     I am a member of the CCLA, Concerned Citizens for Legal
GH>here in Wenatchee Wa. We are a group of citizens, mostly made up of
GH>accused people, but not all.
GH>If anyone has ideas on how to educate the public on false allegations
GH>CSA, please e-mail me. In this small town, the only avenue of
GH>Kim Cartmill GH>Wenatchee, Wa
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GH>--- PPoint 1.92
GH> * Origin: George.Hero@nopc.org (1:396/17.27)

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assistant: Hello George,
RE:  Your forwarded message from Cartmill.
Accountability,
alsely
(snip)....
information is GH>the local paper, Wenatchee World, and they are four
square behind CPS and th GH>police investigators.
(snip)....
One of the hats I wear is Official Correspondent for Citizens For
Justice.  My suggestion is the Wenatchee group should try to network
with Citizens.  This is *not* the "Washington Citizens For Justice" who
took our name to advance their own, super-conservative legislative
agenda recently.  Citizens For Justice publishes a bi-monthly newsletter
with a circulation of about 2,500, nationally.  We need to broaden our
base of active participants and improve our finances, something which
can be more easily accomplished through joint cooperation.  I believe
Citizens can also lend some support to the Wenatchee group, in various
ways.
I do not have Internet access at the moment.  Perhaps you could forward
this message to them for me?  If they are interested in this idea they
can write to:
       Ms. Carol Guderian
       Secretary
       Citizens For Justice
       2201 Henry St.
       Bellingham, WA  98225
Let's get it on!
Thanks.
Don
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system: You are Allen Cowling, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bill Swan about "Keri Jewel..witness?".

They wrote:
BS>The press has been absolutely silent on this claim.  It would be two years
BS>(to the day :-) before the militia movement was of much concern to anyone,
BS>much less the (armed) government.  Yet she was able to raise this bugaboo
BS>unquestioned.

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assistant: Hey Bill, just got back in town and saw this message.  Could not help
but respond <G>.  I've got your other messages and will hopefully get
some time tonight.
We were going to contact Reno regarding our case, but I quickly declined
when I learned she had personally prosecuted "Alleged child sexual abuse
cases" before becoming US Attorney and evidently made the prosecutor in
our case look pure as the driven snow so I am sure not surprised to read
the above.
Hope you are okay and we are still pushing forward.
Allen
system: You are Don Herman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Roger Brown about "I say again....".

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assistant: I hereby rebroadcast my last picsmission...
I LOST YOUR ADDRESS.  DISK IS COMPLETE.  PLEASE SEND YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN.
Got that? <G>
thanks.
Don
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system: You are Matt Giwer, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bill Swan about "Keri Jewel..witness?".

They wrote:
BS>  Another, ah, jewel missed by the press (I caught wind of it
BS>  on a radio show, and later found it buried deep within
BS>  newspaper report -- excluded from other in this area) was
BS>  one of the reasons Janet Reno gave for the pressing need to
BS>  wrap up the standoff:  She claimed they had reports that an
BS>  "armed militia" was preparing to descend upon Waco, either
BS>  to free Koresh or to do him in.
BS>  The press has been absolutely silent on this claim.  It
BS>  would be two years (to the day :-) before the militia
BS>  movement was of much concern to anyone, much less the
BS>  (armed) government.  Yet she was able to raise this bugaboo
BS>  unquestioned.
BS>
BS>  One question I have:  I was not following the reports prior
BS>  to the attack very closely (I had other concerns closer to
BS>  home), but I do not ever recall reading or hearing any
BS>  reports of child abuse at the compound *before* the fire.
BS>  I am sure I would have remembered such, given a certain
BS>  sensitivity to the issue.  Do any of you recall such
BS>  reports *before* the administration felt they needed a
BS>  cover-up?

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assistant: This is the wrong conference, go to civlib.  This is the
infamous Linda Thompson call for and UNARMED assembly, she showed
up to try to send in diapers and formula, about 20 people showed
up including her family, and is scared the pants [sic] off of
Reno.
     Given the known lie about a call for an ARMED assembly and
the pretense of ignorance of what actually happened when LT
showed up, you can imagine the veracity of her child abuse
claims.  I have no memory whatsoever of any claim of child abuse
claims before the attack.  After it, there was a non-specific "no
evidence of the children being unharmed" statement followed ten
months later by the release of the videotape showing the children
were unharmed.
     These days, "for the children," justifies anything, ask the
McMartins.
 * RM 1.3 01261 * Live fast, love well, and have a glorious end.
system: You are George Hero, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "For your info...".

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assistant: ========================================================================
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 Area:    NETMAIL
 Date:    08 Aug 95  15:51:39  Private
 From:    Cartmill@AOL.COM                                  (396/17)
 To:      George Hero                                       (396/17)
 Subject: Wenatchee
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From: "Kim E. Cartmill" <Cartmill@AOL.COM>
Subject: Wenatchee
     The Chelan County Prosecutor has agreed to ask the State Attorney
General to do an investigation of the procedures of the Wenatchee Police
Department and CPS in the Wenatchee "Sex Ring". (But remember, this is the
same Attorney Generals office that is supposedly involved in a cover up of a
foster home incident in Olympia)
     All charges against Donna Rodriguis (sp) are being dropped, apparently
with a hearing come Monday. Her attorney is John Henry Brown from Seattle.
Apparently the Prosecutor got scared.
     Robby and Connie Roberson left jail today after over 100 days because
their bail was reduced to $25,000.
     A pretty good Tuesday.
Kim Cartmill
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system: You are Roger Brown, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Victims/Falseacc message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Don Herman about "Interview".

They wrote:
DH>Guess the move slowed me up somewhat.  I am starting on the
DH>disk today and will mail it as soon as possible.

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assistant: It is good to hear your move went well.  I look forward to getting you disk.
I could use some cosmic releaf.  Never did I imagine that I would be working
full time writing motions, interrogatories, and sundry other legal documents
at my age.  The major comfort I find in doing this is my belief that the
accounts of near death experiences are correct and these people will have to
experience every pain they have caused to others.