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user: You are replying to Armand Haine about "Re: adhd....76".

They wrote:
AH> -=> Belching a post Bill Dobiesz to Armand Haine <=-
AH>Howdy,
AH>  You get so engrossed
AH> BD> in your surroundings, so hung up in conversations with your
AH> BD> friends... you can have your lunch sitting right in front of
AH> BD> you, and never get a chance to  put any of it in your mouth
AH> BD> because your mouth is busy talking.  To this day, I still find
AH> BD> myself doing that...forgetting to take pills (which is even
AH> BD> worse when they're antibiotics or other such drugs).
AH>Ahh perhaps what you say would apply to some, but I simply can not
AH>accept the out right response when his teacher asks him if he's had
AH>his lunch and tablet only to find out that he hasn't.  And he forgot?
AH>His mates are in his class eating, how can he not remember? He can
AH>remember to take them at Grandmother's and even here at home.... nah,
AH>just laziness!
AH>   And yes,
AH> BD> after going through the whole problem, coming back like nothing
AH> BD> happened.  Today, that seems to be more of a help than a
AH> BD> hinderance. It enables me to bounce back from a crisis, or to be
AH> BD> able to get through it well.
AH>No, I tend to think it's more of a hinderance, bouncing back like
AH>nothing happened in that you wonder if he understands the trouble
AH>caused and is able to understand why we ask him what we ask him. It
AH>strikes me that by showing little or no concern, he'll go thru the
AH>rest of his life the way he is now.  He feels that he can do no
AH>wrong.  Bugs me to no end.  The proof of his actions are clearly
AH>shown to him.
AH> BD> I wish you the best of luck...it's tough now, no question about
AH> BD> it. But I believe that if you can hang on until he becomes an
AH> BD> adult, in the long run you'll be glad you didn't kill him
AH> BD> somewhere along the line.
AH>Luck?  Thanks.  But I just wish he'd take more of a responsibility
AH>and ownership of his actions.  By doing so, many people would breathe
AH>a sigh of relief and worry less and be less resposible for HIS
AH>actions.
===>Mark Probert<===

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assistant: ARMAND HAINE was thinking about Re: adhd....76 and keyed into
cyberspace:
Hello Armand:
While you raise several good points, they are all based upon the premise
that the ADHD child is able to see cause and effect, i.e., that their
actions will have a specific effect. This is not always the case. If
your child is like this, it will take years of counselling to have the
slightest impact on them.
Part of helping the ADHD child is the parent learning what is reasonable
to expect and working with the child to achieve that. THERE IS NO
SUBSTITUTE FOR FAMILY COUNSELLING.
In that way, you child and you will learn how to work with each other to
achieve what you want. Punishment of the child to "encourage" them to
learn these things will have absolutely no effect.
For us, this has been a been there/done that situation for the past nine
years. My son is now beginning to see the cause and effect.
              email at MSProbert@aol.com