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system: You are Sharyn Noakes, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jean Halverson about "Ritalin".

They wrote:
JH>  This is so true. Jane is actually insulting those of us who have childre
JH>  afflicted with ADHD or ADD or plain hyperactivity. Neither my husband no
JH>  abused either drugs or alcohol yet out of our eight children we have one
JH>  who exhibits the symptoms of ADHD and another who is certainly hyperacti
JH>  (even prior to birth). Of course this is only my personal experience. I
JH>  only jump in because I've gotten tired of Jane making veiled accusations
JH>  that we whose children have these problems are drug users or alcoholics.

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assistant: Hello Jean!
In a message to Mark Probert <04/01/98> Jean Halverson wrote:
My hat is off to you Jean...one has to live with a child who has ADHD
or have it themself like me...I'm 50 and when I was younger I was
classified as slow and lazy...wasn't hyper like my daughter was and
is...however I do find myself forgetting to focus and I go off in a
different direction.  I'm self taught when it comes to knowing what I
am or am not doing and sometimes it's very difficult.
Sharyn
SNoakes78@MCI2000.com
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system: You are Bob Moylan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Lavonne Davis-Schenck about "uh-oh".

They wrote:
LD> I have been reading this echo for quite some time.  I have a son,
LD> age 11, who is on Ritalin (5mg early AM, 20mg SR to get through the
LD> school  day, and 5mg certain afternoons if there are events requiring
LD> exceptional concentration or "with-it-ness" to get through) which
LD> has been quite helpful to him.
LD> I am also a teacher.
LD> Middle school, French and Spanish.

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assistant: Lavonne Davis-schenck (On 05 Apr 98) said this..? to All
Hi Lavonne...
 We also have an 11 year old boy ... takes MPH 20-15-15 with an option
 for that additional 5mg in late afternoon (seldom utilized). His
 dosage, arrived at after a long trial/error period, has helped him to
 help himself.
 Humm... me too.
 Oh... one of those with the 'in between' kids. You have my respect
 and condolences.  I'm spec ed, MR/SPD as primary area with an
 endorsement for BD.
system: You are Michael Curry, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bob Moylan about "uh-oh".

They wrote:
-> Parents simply do not know what services schools are legally mandated to
-> provide; for the most part they don't even know

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assistant: So, what services are they leagally mandated to provide?
Mind you, I'm in NY.. are these federal laws?
What questions should I be asking?
-Mike
system: You are Mark Lewis, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kalera Ashley about "Ritalin and NIMH".

They wrote:
KA> I've never been to a doctor's office that did not, upon the
KA> first visit, proffer a long double-sided questionairre for
KA> the purpose of determining medical history in the patient
KA> and immediate family. This includes questions about drug use.
KA> Perhaps you are choosing negligent doctors?

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assistant: how many people do you know that really are completely truthful when
answering those questions??? especially those about drug use?? to admit to
using illegal drugs is to open one's self to possible prosecution and i don't
know anyone who is willing to go thru that...
and perhaps you are wearing blinders... small ones but blinders
netheless...
i'm not supporting anyone with these comments. they are only stated in order
to open one's eyes that there are other possibilities and/or explanations...
)\/(ark
(4+ year lurker of this area)
system: You are Kalera Ashley, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jane Kelley about "Re: Ritalin and NIMH".

They wrote:
JK>  KA> JK>  KA> I agree that many doctors are negligent in researching
KA> JK>  KA> family  background when prescribing medications. However, there
JK>  KA> JK>  KA> have been no known incidents of addiction resulting from
JK>  KA> JK>  KA> use in the treatment of ADHD.
JK>
JK> Known to you, that is.
JK>  KA> Then they were negligent in not formally reporting these cases to
JK>  KA> CIBA-Geigy  or the government agency which tracks them, the name of
JK>  KA> which I don't  remember.
JK>
JK>
JK> How the hell do you know they didn't report them?  I'm frankly sick of
JK> attitdue which recognizes no other authority but yourself.

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assistant: person
Rita
known to CIBA-Geigy or the government.
Anecdotal evidence by you about people you know who knew someone who was
addicted is absolutely worthless. If these people actually existed, than the
professionals involved should have reported the case of addiction, which
information CIBA-Geigy is then required by law to make known to the
nterested
public and to the medical profession.
your
I know they didn't report them because when I say "no known cases" I mean "no
cases were reported to the appropriate government agency or to CIBA-Geigy".
I recognize many authorities, most of which are NOT myself because frankly,
I'm no authority on anything except perhaps an obscure technique of
lasswork,
or reptile husbandry.
I do not, however, consider you an authority and until you can cite reputable
authorities to back up your ridiculous claims, I certainly will continue to
give them the treatment they deserve.
system: You are Kalera Ashley, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jane Kelley about "Re: Ritalin".

They wrote:
JK>  AR> KA> PET scans do not determine whether something is genetic. They
JK>  AR> KA> determine  whether a condition causes a change in the brain
JK>  AR> KA> visible using PET scans. For instance, the variety of dwarfism
JK>  AR> KA> that runs in my family is genetic. It is not diagnosable via PET
JK>  AR> KA> scan.
JK>
JK>
JK> Many genetic conditions can and are picked up on a scan.
JK>
JK> I am not at all certain that the dwarfism isn't detectable by one as
JK> should be some changes from "normal" scans.

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assistant: which
there
I don't think you know the first thing about genetics. Or PET scans.
SYMPTOMS of dwarfism may well be detectable by PET scan. But then, SYMPTOMS
f
dwarfism are detectable by the naked eye. PET scans do not look directly into
our DNA.  Do you know what DNA is, and how genetic anomalies work? There are
several interesting books on genetic which are very accessible to the
layperson; if you wish to understand why your assertion that genetic
anomalies are detectable with PET scans, I suggest you read one or two.
***
Don't you think that the Human Genome Project would be much easier and
heaper
if PET scans could look directly into our DNA?
system: You are Kalera Ashley, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jane Kelley about "Re: ???".

They wrote:
JK>  AR> So, from watching those two kids use granny's computer, you are able
JK>  AR> to tell that "everyone" owns or has access to a computer and the
JK>  AR> internet.
JK>
JK>
JK> In this area, "everyone" does.  We have computers in our public libraries
JK> internet capability.  In fact, I also found one in Sag Harbor when I was
JK> there last summer.  The use of them is free to anyone who uses any other
JK> of a library.
JK>
JK> If someone choses to remain ignorant, that is individual choice today.

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assistant: *
*o
*p
In your area, "everyone" doesn't unless the quotation marks are your way of
indicating that "everyone" only means the people you know. Puyallup does NOT
have a spectacularly higher rate of computer ownership and Internet
connectivity than the rest of the nation. The San Francisco Bay area DOES,
et
they also don't have a 100% service rate, or even close to it. No area does.
**************************************************************
Almost every library system now offers free use of computers with Internet
access. That does not make everyone in that area computer literate, nor does
it automatically confer upon them the desire to be so. It gives computer
access to the poor, but it doesn't give them time to use it, nor incentive.
Lack of computer access can hardly be equated with a choice to be "ignorant".
Many have no use for the Internet, and frankly I find it a limited resource
t
best, and very unreliable to boot. Many cannot afford a computer, and many
ho
can cannot afford monthly access charges. Those with families are unlikely to
spend hours tooling around the world's least reliable database at the public
library while their children are waiting for dinner and affection.
If you make blatantly false sweeping statements, be prepared to have them
pointed up. And rather than sidestepping or pretending you said something
else, you would look less a fool if you didn't try to argue the point when
you've been caught out with one of your ridiculous claims.
system: You are Kalera Ashley, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jane Kelley about "Re: Ritalin and NIMH".

They wrote:
JK> Which does not excuse any pediatrician or any other doctor for failing to
JK> out what drugs the mother used during her pregnancy!
JK>  AR> JK> I object vigorously to the prescription of any drug for any
JK>  AR> JK> by anyone unless addiction in the immediate family is factored
JK>  AR> JK> into the history!  It is all too evident to me that this is not
JK>  AR> JK> being done.
JK>  AR> Depends on the drug and why it is being prescribed.
JK>
JK> That is one of the stupidest responses to anything I've ever said in
JK> otherwise.  Hearing it from a patient, I would automatically respond with
JK> "Denial is not a river in Egypt".
JK> For anyone with any real understanding of what I am saying, that is
JK> who understands addiction, the question is very valid.  If drugs are a
JK> drugs used by pregnant women who tend to be heavily addicted, then the
JK> thoughts should be toward genetic mutation as a direct result of the drug
JK> use.

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assistant: *
You seem completely unaware of the questions asked routinely when a new
patient is seen by a doctor for the first time.
I've never been to a doctor's office that did not, upon the first visit,
proffer a long double-sided questionairre for the purpose of determining
medical history in the patient and immediate family. This includes questions
about drug use.
Perhaps you are choosing negligent doctors?
uman
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So you're saying that a full family history of drug use should have been
aken
before my endocrinologist prescribed me Bromocriptine?
What about my prescription vaginal cream for that persistent postpartum
infection?
someone
caus
next
For anyone who understands the rudiments of genetics, your statements
concerning "genetic mutation" as a direct result of drug use are WAY beyond
ridiculous.
I think that "genes" "genetic" and all variations of same should be stricken
from your vocabulary.
system: You are Kalera Ashley, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jane Kelley about "Re: ???".

They wrote:
JK> Around here, yes.  Our schools and libraries have computers.  The use of
JK> computers that can access the Internet is free in our libraries also.  A
JK> person who is dedicated to learning can go there and find out for
JK> what is out there.

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assistant: th
themself
I'd like to remind you that you claimed that there was "a computer in every
household", not that there were computers available to the general public in
local schools and libraries.
system: You are Kalera Ashley, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jane Kelley about "Re: Ritalin".

They wrote:
JK>  AR> JK> The lousier mental health workers will tell someone to try one
JK>  AR> JK> then another "to see if it works".
JK>
JK>  AR> And just how the hell do you expect to find out what works if you
JK>
JK>
JK> YOU DO A DAMN GOOD HISTORY FIRST!

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assistant: dru
There is no possible way that a medical history will determine or even *help*
determine what drug and dosage will affect a previously untreated condition,
and in what way.
system: You are Sharyn Noakes, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jane Kelley about "Ritalin and NIMH".

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assistant: Hello Jane!
Forgive me Jane...but it seems you are becoming rather hostile...BTW
you never did answer me from a post I addressed to you about a week
ago.  Also, from what I've read you are close or older than me...with
that in mind let's try and open our minds up rather than becoming
upset as it seems you are.
Now...a question for you...do you have any children? And were or are
any of them Hyperactive or ADD???  I have my own personal reasons for
asking so please humor me.
Sharyn
SNoakes78@MCI2000.com
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system: You are Kalera Ashley, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Mark Lewis about "Re: Ritalin and NIMH".

They wrote:
ML>  KA> I've never been to a doctor's office that did not, upon the
ML>  KA> first visit, proffer a long double-sided questionairre for
ML>  KA> the purpose of determining medical history in the patient
ML>  KA> and immediate family. This includes questions about drug use.
ML>
ML> how many people do you know that really are completely truthful when
ML> those questions??? especially those about drug use?? to admit to using
ML> drugs is to open one's self to possible prosecution and i don't know
ML> is willing to go thru that...
ML>  KA> Perhaps you are choosing negligent doctors?
ML>
ML> and perhaps you are wearing blinders... small ones but blinders
ML>
ML> i'm not supporting anyone with these comments. they are only stated in
ML> open one's eyes that there are other possibilities and/or explanations...

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assistant: answer
ille
anyone
I don't pretend to know how anyone answers those questions, I was merely
responding to her claim that doctors don't ASK them.
And you cannot be prosecuted for admitting to previous use of drugs. In teh
case of drug use you have to be caught red-handed, unless you damage a baby
n
which case in some states you can be prosecuted (and rightly so) for child
endangerment.
Personally, I answer the questions honestly. But then, I have no fear of The
Man coming down on me for smoking pot a couple times in my youth, and I
eally
haven't done much more adventurous than that.
nonetheless
orde
Blinders? I havemn't denied the existence of anything, nor claimed that the
questionairres are an accurate way of gaining drug use histories from
patients. I've only stated that  they exist, to counter Jane's claim that
doctors do not *ask* for a medical/drug use history. If you choose to be
offensive, try to be accurately offensive please.
Thank you.
system: You are Mark Lewis, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jane Kelley about "Help! Ideas Needed.".

They wrote:
TK>> -> Who wrote the latter part of that?  Me or you?  Your mail reader
TK>> -> leaves a -> lot to be desired at times.
TK>> Yes it does, but unfortunately, I am running a BBS program called
TK>> PCBoard, and haven't found a decent replacement for the messege
TK>> editor yet. Anything that I quote from someone else will have a ->
TK>> in front of it, the stuff that I wrote and you quoted has the TK>
TK>> in front of it.  Hopefully that will help you decipher who wrote
TK>> what.
JK> I am not running PCBoard.  Don't know who is.

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assistant: he didn't say you were running PCBoard, he said HE was running it... it's a
BBS package with an apparently "lousy" editor WRT the quotation facilities...
)\/(ark
system: You are Mark Lewis, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kalera Ashley about "Ritalin and NIMH".

They wrote:
KA> I don't pretend to know how anyone answers those questions, I
ML>>  KA> Perhaps you are choosing negligent doctors?
ML>>
ML>> and perhaps you are wearing blinders... small ones but blinders
ML>> nonetheless
ML>>
ML>> i'm not supporting anyone with these comments. they are only stated in
ML>> orde
ML>> open one's eyes that there are other possibilities and/or
KA> Blinders? I havemn't denied the existence of anything, nor

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assistant: [trim for bandwidth]
understood and i agree... ;-)
planations...
no no no... not those blinders... the ones that keep us from seeing what
someone sees... i have this (unique?) ability to "step outside" of a
situation and see it as someone else would... even if i'm deeply embroiled in
it... sometimes it wakes me up to what a jerk i can be at times... this
"stepping outside" and looking back at me really awakens me to how others may
see things and how others may react to them... especially in this medium of
written text where a smile or a grin are very hard to display with full
emotional impact... not to mention all the other emotions one may experience
and try to convey... it's very hard to read body language from this side of
the phosphorus<sp?>
OB-)
)\/(ark
system: You are Eric Renfro, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "ADHD in adults.".

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assistant: Hello, everyone..
I'm wondering if anyone here knows anything about ADHD in adults, age 30+ or
so. The doctors around here in California laugh when my g/f says she has
ADHD. I don't get it, but I know I am ADHD, and she has the same symptoms of
it. I just don't know what to do to get her the help she needs.
Anyone, HELP? :)
 -- Psi-Jack<Jack into the Matrix/NOW!!!>
  + Decker's Heaven / Sysop
... All five-second grenade fuses will burn down in three seconds.
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system: You are Bob Moylan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Michael Curry about "uh-oh".

They wrote:
-> Parents simply do not know what services schools are legally mandated to
-> provide; for the most part they don't even know
MC> So, what services are they leagally mandated to provide?
MC> Mind you, I'm in NY.. are these federal laws?
MC> What questions should I be asking?
MC> -Mike

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assistant: Michael Curry (On 07 Apr 98) said this..? to Bob Moylan
 Hi Michael...
 Sorry for delay in responding... have been neglecting Fido for a few
 days...
 Crash mail sent to your board .. 'course you already know that... (-'
 Bob
... disabilities are NOT inabilities.
system: You are Bob Moylan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Michael Curry about "uh-oh".

They wrote:
-> Parents simply do not know what services schools are legally mandated to
-> provide; for the most part they don't even know
MC> So, what services are they leagally mandated to provide?
MC> Mind you, I'm in NY.. are these federal laws?
MC> What questions should I be asking?
MC> -Mike

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assistant: Michael Curry (On 07 Apr 98) said this..? to Bob Moylan
Hi Michael..
Sorry for delay... I've been neglecting Fido, direct netmail on the way.
Bob
... disabilities are NOT inabilities.
system: You are Bob Moylan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Mark Lewis about "Ritalin and NIMH".

They wrote:
KA> I've never been to a doctor's office that did not, upon the
KA> first visit, proffer a long double-sided questionairre for
KA> the purpose of determining medical history in the patient
KA> and immediate family. This includes questions about drug use.
ml> how many people do you know that really are completely truthful when
ml> answering those questions??? especially those about drug use?? to
ml> admit to using illegal drugs is to open one's self to possible
ml> prosecution and i don't know anyone who is willing to go thru that...
KA> Perhaps you are choosing negligent doctors?
ml> and perhaps you are wearing blinders... small ones but blinders
ml> nonetheless...
ml> i'm not supporting anyone with these comments.
ml> they are only stated in order to open one's eyes that there are
ml> other possibilities and/or explanations...

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assistant: mark lewis (On 09 Apr 98) said this..? to Kalera Ashley
 How many people do you know that actually lie to their doctor or
 withhold information that could be essential to treating their
 complaint?
 Doctors are not usually in the business of referring their patients
 to law enforcement agencies based on information provided in a
 document that is covered under physician/patient confidentially
 rules.
 Oh...your words have a different appearance.
 If you have been lurking here 4+ years you should know that there
 aren't many (if any) who dispute that there are 'other possibilities
 and/or explanations'.  The most frequent 'possibility' and most
 frequent 'explanation' is that ADD/ADHD was not the problem as
 determined by a thorough medical work up.  "Nurse" Kelley just doesn't
 happen to have knowledge of either other possibilities or explanations.
 To her everything either is or it isn't so based on her own personal
 experiences or, more often, hearsay, spurious studies that no one has
 ever been able to replicate and sales pitches from here today gone
 tomorrow web sites.
 What is your interest in ADs?
 Bob
system: You are Valerie Johnson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Sharyn Noakes about "Ritalin and NIMH".

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assistant: she is um a add and is hyperactive from what i have seen on this area for
about 5 months
system: You are Valerie Johnson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jane Kelley about "Ritalin and NIMH".

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assistant: jane
come on you are not 70 prove it
name me the best actress and actor and director and movie in 1927 and 1928
ok dont cheat
So what my mom has bipolar and was an alcoholic. Does that make me an
alcoholic and bipolar to?