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In a message dated 98-02-22 11:23:45 EST, you write:
<< What is US Airgun Magazine?  Is it limited to field airguns or are other
 aspects related to airguns covered?  How can I subscribe?
 Jerry M. Miller >>
US Airgun covers all aspects of airguns.
Check out the new US Airgun web site for subscription info and much more.
http://www.usairgun.com/
regards
dt fletcher
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I just got some nice old airpistols in a mammoth (for me) trade deal via
the Net!  I'm the new proud owner of three fairly decent, shootable
specimens of pre-war pistols made before airguns were made by different
methods than firelarms.  I've seen a couple printed paragraphs on these
guns, but wonder if any out there have any firsthand experience, or
in-depth knowledge of these fine guns:
a.  "Highest Possible" breakdown, second model.
b. " Warrior"  sidelever, second model.
c.  Webley  "Junior" toplever, tin grips.
ld
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What is US Airgun Magazine?  Is it limited to field airguns or are other
aspects related to airguns covered?  How can I subscribe?
Jerry M. Miller
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assistant: Message-ID: <3e60986a.34f00910@aol.com>
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To All Crosman Service Stations & Airgunsmiths,
Got off of the phone with Sue Hunt, Crosman's service manager and was told
that Crosman is contemplating making a one time only run of all seals, o-
rings, and valve stems for most models produced in the past. This will be a
one shot only production run. No time frame has been established nor has the
decision been set in concrete, but consideration is better than what we have
been getting.
As most of you know I have made available many of these items already, at a
considerable cost, but getting Crosman to consider this is vital. Let's get
n
the ball guys. Let's turn up the pressure. And when ordering time comes,
et's
make it worth their while. ( Sue Hunt  1-800-7airguns)
Rick Willnecker
Precision Pellet
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-> What is US Airgun Magazine?  Is it limited to field airguns or are
-> other aspects related to airguns covered?  How can I subscribe?

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assistant: Jerry,
Email USAIRGUN@aristotle.net for subscription info.
Jim
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>What is US Airgun Magazine?  Is it limited to field airguns or are other
>aspects related to airguns covered?  How can I subscribe?
>
>Jerry M. Miller
>

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I subscribe to it.  It is a bi-monthly magazine which covers much more than
just field airguns.
Visit their web page at www.usairgun.com or call
1-800-247-4867 for info.
At 11:18 AM 2/22/98 -0500, you wrote:
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assistant: Message-ID: <34F11B99.266F@sj.bigger.net>
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I finally got my latest acquision Crosman 110 put back together with the
help of Rick's seal kit (intake, exhaust, oring, piston cup...that's
it).
Definitely the gun is no powerhouse nor did I "tune" it to have better.
I know the piston cup can be adjusted as well as some internal valve
mods. But I feel that I just
wanted to revive this '50's vintage gun. Though I have not chronoed it,
just curious as to what the general performance spec. should be the
standard.
I guess that the gun should output somewhere around 9 ft-lbs or so. I'll
chrono it and give you guys the low-down.
This is an interesting airgun, extremely simple made pretty good. The
paint is about 85% or so and some minor scratches on the thin stock. I
personally rate this gun
to be about 85% overall in condition. The gun very light and is
extremely easy to pump. Trigger is actually pretty nice (light and well
broken in). I do noticed that this
gun was serviced before as I see peen marks on the lever (no slop on the
linkage). S/N is 280956 which is a close producton number of my Co2
counter part: 114
(S/N247572).
Definitely this pellet rifle was for youths than adults. The design of
the 110 was changed over in end of 1952 to the model 120...and they look
pretty similar except
for the front sight. The valve mechanism remained the same.
Andrew
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Just a quick note on the production dates.  DTF has production date till
1951 Smith's book got till Jan 1953....so definitely in the early '50s.
Andrew
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They wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
>         I have seen the Beeman Pelsize in their catalogs.  One of those
> questions I allways intended to ask Tim was about pellet sizing dies.
> What to you recomend for the 22 cal Carreer and the  177 cal IZH?
>         I went out for a hunt with the Carreer yesterday in between the
> No luck, the bunnys were faster than I was.  The most exciting part was
> dodging the farmer on an ATC.  I don't think I will wear cammo BDUs
> again, looks to serious!
>
> Regards,
>
> Colin
>
> Larry Durham wrote:
> >
> > I routinely sort mine with a .180" sizer, some fall thru, most take
> > pressure to push them thru, a very few are way tight.  I estimate skirt
> > varies .003", pee-wees cause flyers.
> >
> > ld

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29 gr Dae Sungs and .177 Hobby, lube with FP10, no need to size.  ld
burkec@goldstate.net wrote:
rains.
light
dia
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Crossman Premier v. Copperhead?     10:12:0002/23/98".

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>    In a box of Premiers, they are just plain all "perfect" and all
> alike.

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Percentage wise the Premiers are all alike,  but I'm not the only one who's
had some bad pellets out of a box of Premiers am I ??
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They wrote:
>
> I routinely sort mine with a .180" sizer, some fall thru, most take slight
> pressure to push them thru, a very few are way tight.  I estimate skirt dia
> varies .003", pee-wees cause flyers.
>
> ld

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assistant: Message-ID: <34F1D1AF.4696@goldstate.net>
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Hi Larry,
 I have seen the Beeman Pelsize in their catalogs.  One of those
questions I allways intended to ask Tim was about pellet sizing dies.
What to you recomend for the 22 cal Carreer and the  177 cal IZH?
 I went out for a hunt with the Carreer yesterday in between the rains.
No luck, the bunnys were faster than I was.  The most exciting part was
dodging the farmer on an ATC.  I don't think I will wear cammo BDUs
again, looks to serious!
Regards,
Colin
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user: You are replying to Bruce Perathaner about "Re: grip finish".

They wrote:
DM>How does this negatively affect its use as a gun stock finish?  As I
DM>said, it worked well for me.
BP>Dave,  One of the things that it does is to make the finish darken with
>exposure to UV light.  Like allot of things...the real stuff just works
>better.

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assistant: Okay.  Thanks.
Dave
 * 1st 2.00 ~ Speed is fine ... accuracy is final. (Wyatt Earp)
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Crossman Premier v. Copperhead?     14:08:0002/23/98".

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> >    In a box of Premiers, they are just plain all "perfect" and all
> > alike.
>
> Percentage wise the Premiers are all alike,  but I'm not the only one who's
> had some bad pellets out of a box of Premiers am I ??
>
> --
>  (Kerry Kremke)
>          AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193
>                      http://www.airpower.com
> FREE copy of 1st Reader! http://www.airpower.com/airpower.html

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I routinely sort mine with a .180" sizer, some fall thru, most take slight
pressure to push them thru, a very few are way tight.  I estimate skirt dia
varies .003", pee-wees cause flyers.
ld
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Another sizing question:
Why are the sizing dies (Beeman) for .117, .20, and .25 cal all slightly
larger than the specified caliber, while the .22 dies are all smaller than
.22 caliber?
Only .25 cal offers an actual .2500 die...
 I just started using a .2190 die for my .22 pellets. It does seem to help.
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Additional note Crosman 110 T/C jr. 18:33:0002/23/98".

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In a message dated 98-02-23 06:14:20 EST, you write:
<< Just a quick note on the production dates.  DTF has production date till
 1951 Smith's book got till Jan 1953....so definitely in the early '50s.
 Andrew >>
Hi,
I have original Crosman pictures from a trade show showing the model 120
eing
introduced in 1952, along with the 118. Since the 120 replaced the 110 and
09
the 1951 end date of production is pretty sure for the Town and Country Jrs.
They certainly would have been in some stores for a while in 1952, but
production would have been stopped by then. The real difference that the
odel
120 brought was the new breech. This was the same breech that was being used
for the 114 CO2 rifle. In effect the 120 was the pneumatic version of the
14.
This made production more efficient. The only real innovation for the model
120 was the white bead on the front sight which is nearly always missing, but
you can see the hole where it went. The Juniors have a good shooting
reputation. Always made of brass, they were the last pneumatic rifles to be
only made in Rochester NY.
regards
dt fletcher
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I gave it a couple of pumps and left it overnight.  It stills holds air
so I guess I did a good job at rebuilding this thing.
After adjusting the piston cup, I proceeded to get some velocity
figures.
The temp was in the 50's and I used 14.3 gr .22 Premiers and averaged:
4 pumps  458
6 pumps  532
8 pumps  581
10 pumps 620
So, I was suprised that it shot that hard.  Rick at Precision Pellet
said that usually the gun is good for 550 at 8 pumps, which mine has
definitely exceeded.
When comparing notes, the 110 is got more power than my 1400 Crosman.
I only get about 610 with the 1400.
Amazing the valve design is actually better than I expected
Comments?
Andrew
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user: You are replying to Tkjue@Worldnet.Att.Net about "Theoben Classic".

They wrote:
Twa> I'm glad you wrote about the Theoben Classic.  I see different Theoben
Twa> rifles advertised in The Aigunner, like the Taunus, Olympus and Fenman
Twa> models and often wondered how they shot.
Twa> Can I ask you a couple more questions about this rifle?  Does the
Twa> Classic use a gas ram, HE gas ram or spring?
Twa> You said it was tempermental at 800+ fps. Does it shoot a .177 or
Twa> .22 cal?
Twa>  By the way,
Twa> ".40 caliber paintballs at 20 yards" is pretty nice shooting!  Again,
Twa> thanks for sharing the Theoben Classic.

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assistant: It uses a gas ram.  There's a valve at the rear of the gun to add or release
air.  The Classic is a design several years old.  They are supposed to have
improved the gas ram and made it even more efficient since then.
It's .22 caliber.  When it was new it clocked 804 FPS with Crosman Premiers,
but I had lots of accuracy trouble.  It would put a few shots into a small
group, then the point of aim would change unpredictably.  It seemed extremely
sensitive to my firing position, and any minor change in the way I held or
supported the gun caused the POI to move.  After I reduced the power all
those problems ceased, and it shoots consistently now.  I don't remember the
exact chronograph results, but I think it's doing about 750 or 760 FPS now.
You are quite welcome!
    -- Tony Belding <http://hamilton.htcomp.net/tbelding/>
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They wrote:
BP> Everyone has their own style, I hunt cocked and loaded.  I seldom use a
BP> safety on any anything.  I just wouldn't hunt with any Airgun that I
BP> felt needed to be carried uncocked.

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assistant: Great minds think alike.  :-)
I removed the awkward automatic safety from my Theoben Classic.
    -- Tony Belding <http://hamilton.htcomp.net/tbelding/>
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user: You are replying to Fletcheror@Aol.Com about "Gun Safety in the Field".

They wrote:
BP>> Everyone has their own style, I hunt cocked and loaded.  I seldom
BP>> use a safety on any anything.
Fac> Walking around with a loaded, cocked, safety off gun is an accident
Fac> ready to happen. Stupid is not a style.

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assistant: This view apparently coming from someone unfamiliar with rules of gun safety.
   * Treat every gun as if it's loaded; stay aware of where it's pointed.
   * Never rely on a mechanical safety device.
   * Keep your finger outside the trigger guard until time to shoot.
   * Always positively identify your target: know FOR SURE what you're
     shooting at and where the pellet will go if you miss.
   * Lay down the gun or unload it (or both!) before crossing a fence,
     climbing, crawling, etc.
If you follow these rules, as we all should, you will see that carrying a
loaded rifle with no safety can be quite safe.  The safety device that
matters is located between your ears.
    -- Tony Belding <http://hamilton.htcomp.net/tbelding/>
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In a message dated 98-02-24 06:12:05 EST, you write:
<< When comparing notes, the 110 is got more power than my 1400 Crosman.
 I only get about 610 with the 1400.
 Amazing the valve design is actually better than I expected >>
The 110 valve is the same as found in all Crosman models from the 105 pistol
to the 120 rifle, including all the CO2 guns. Being a knockoff type valve
ome
of the key elements for performance are return spring pressure (less is
better), valve seat material (the harder the better but must be soft enough
o
hold air on first pump). One of the reasons you may have thought the gun
ight
be low on performance is that the Town and Country Jrs, just like their
igger
brother the Town and Countrys Sr. and the model 100-104 are remarkably quiet.
The model 100-104 Crosman Rifles were even marketed for 20 years as the
ilent
Rifle. There is a Town and Country jr. here in Oregon that a gentleman has
been using for literally decades to clean out sparrows from his barn. He
ikes
it since it doesn't bother the animals as much as other guns. I have serviced
it and several Silents and a barn mouse killer 113 that still today perform
every day pest control chores on Oregon farms just as Philip Hahn advertised
they would.
cheers
dt fletcher
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In a message dated 98-02-24 06:11:51 EST, you write:
<<
 When comparing notes, the 110 is got more power than my 1400 Crosman.
 I only get about 610 with the 1400.
Have you tried varying the speed at which you pump these rifles?  I tried
hat
with my 1400 and noticed a difference of about 70 fps with 10 pumps.
IDB
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> Have you tried varying the speed at which you pump these rifles?  I tried
> with my 1400 and noticed a difference of about 70 fps with 10 pumps.
>
> IDB

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BadlndsBob@aol.com wrote:
that
Actually, I have.  And velocity doesn't change that much and definitely
not
70 fps spread.  If this happens, perhaps the piston cup might need a
little
attention.
I presume you get the higher velocity the faster you pump it, correct?
If you have a worn piston cup, the slower you pump it, more air will go
by
before reaching the intake valve.
The biggest spread I have seen my 1400 done is about 10 fps spread;
pumping
fast, slow, soft, hard...but generally it is about 4-6 fps spread at the
most
with 10 pumps.
So what velocity are you getting? with what weight pellet?
I tend to use decent pellet as they are more uniform thus less variable.
Andrew
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assistant: A while back, I was looking at a nice pellet gun in the gun shop which
very closely resembled a Walther if I remember.  It came in its own case had
itsown little magazine of pellets which you can insert into it, etc..
Supposedly this was a very good airgun, and not just another cheap
'knock-off' imitation like Crossman and Daisy produce.   Dont remember who
the manufacturer was.  We discussed in in the echo a few months ago. Anyone
remember the manufacturer and model number?