system: You are Jim Balcom, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Linux message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Lawrence Lucier about "Hi!".

They wrote:
LL>> Not try to be rude here Per but this statement is totally bogus,
LL>> IMHO.
JB> You are certainly welcome to your own opinions.
LL> Thank you for being so condesending.
JB> However,,,,,,,
JB> I run Linux in some heavy-duty applications - web page server,
JB> e-mail list server, fidonet mail hub, etc. I ran it for over 150
JB> days, and had to pull it down to change a piece of hardware. I
JB> punish it a LOT, and it never crashes.
LL> So is this the same as "it has never crashed"?
LL> Are you
LL> trying to imply that linux based machines never crash?  Your
LL> observation has little to do with my response to the orignal
LL> posters comment as I am sure you will see after rereading
LL> it.  :-)
JB> OTOH, a system that I was connecting to regularly that was being
JB> run under OS/2 was having to set something up to re-boot the
JB> whole OS/2 system at 0600 everyday.
LL> So was the problem OS/2 related or software or hardware
LL> related?
LL> How experienced was the sysop?
LL> It's all very well
LL> say "connecting to an OS/2 system" but what about the
LL> particulars involved?  FWIW, I've run my BBS (which is also
LL> my personal system) under OS/2 for at least the last 4 years
LL> now and have no need to "reboot" at a specific time of day.
LL> About the only time I reboot is when Netscape decides to go
LL> into la-la land! <grin>
LL> There's also two other sysops in
LL> the local area running OS/2 BBSes and they too have no need
LL> to reboot at a specific time of day either; I'm sure a quick
LL> enquiry into the Fidonet OS2BBS echo would return similar
LL> results. <shrug>
JB> I am frequently running into OS/2 based systems that are having
JB> far more problems than Linux systems.
LL> Well as they say, YMMV, but quite honestly I find
LL> generalizations and absolutes such as this very hard to
LL> believe. <shrug>  IBM would probably have a few words to say
LL> on this topic too after such excellent results being
LL> displayed by the OS/2 systems at the winter games. <grin>

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assistant: Lawrence Lucier at 1:340/204 wrote in a message to Jim Balcom on 16 Apr 1998
at 13:49:
No condescension at all....
Yes, it is the same. I brought this Slackware version up on this hardware in
November of 1996. It has NEVER crashed.
I think it has quite a bit to do with your response.
I have yet to find a Linux machine that has crashed - except when the SA was
doing something way out in left field. Once the SA has it up and running, and
all of the hardware is properly integrated, it is almost impossible to crash
a Linux system. (I say 'almost', but I have never heard of one crashing,
except for hardware failure.)
I dunno. They had had many crashes, and so the re-booted everyday.
I would say that he is quite well experienced. He installs networks for a
living.
In Linux, just do a PS, and kill that process. No need to re-boot.
I suspect that you are probably quite right. A daily rebooting seems
excessive, and I am aware that they did it as a precautionary measure.
Here's another one: I have known this guy as a personal friend since 1981. He
works for a major national HVAC company installing and programming computers
to control the heating and air conditioning in major buildings. The World
Bank Building in Washington, DC was one of his babies. He was running OS/2.
He took a months vacation and went to Missouri. He was well aware of all of
the precautions about not making changes before you are about to leave, and
he didn't. 4 days into the trip the system died. He is now running Windows
.
But, I'll bet that they had SA's there constantly watching over the systems.
Linux systems don't need baby sitters.
++ Jim ++
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