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system: You are Amber Floyd, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Mark Probert about "6 Year Old".

They wrote:
>> destructiveness by a six year old to the degree described by the mother
>> is not typical of ADHD, but is typical of other problems, and, perhaps,
>> she should look beyond the diagnosis of ADHD.

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assistant: Looked pretty typical to me, not only to Tamara, but to our older
ADHD friend.  Does it seem out of line to anyone else?
                                                      Amber
system: You are Amber Floyd, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Chris Jones about "Help!".

They wrote:
>> When mine was very young, he did hit me with his elbow -- just once.  I
>> yelled, "NO" just as loud as I could!
>>
>> When I was sure that I got his attention I told him that up until that
>> moment I had never hit him (never spanked).  I said that that was his
>> one freebie and that if he ever hit me again I would defend myself.
>>
>> Never had that problem again!

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assistant: That sounds like the perfect way to handle it.
                                            Amber
system: You are Amber Floyd, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Chris Jones about "Scouts & stuff".

They wrote:
>> final straw was he talked a special ed. student into trying to beat up
>> my son at school.  We found a church sponsored troop and don't have half

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assistant: This is horrid!  If you have proof, you should call the poliece, this
has to be illigal.  It is not only damageing to your son, but HORRIBLY
damageing to the child who followed his direction.
                                                 Amber
system: You are Amber Floyd, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to John Pummill about "Help!".

They wrote:
>> Lessee...
>>
>> three bus suspensions
>> paddlings weekly
>> suspended five times
>> three or four teacher conferences
>>
>> licks three times in one day
>> suspended for three days, suspended from the bus and three licks all in
>> one day... the teacher was on the phone on and off with Audra all day

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assistant: And this is a first grader?  Apalling!
                                                      Amber
system: You are Amber Floyd, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Chris Jones about "school".

They wrote:
>> Two years later, Ohio has all but abandoned corporal punishment in it's
>> schools!

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assistant: I wish they would do the same here in Florida.  We have absolutely
barbaric laws about corporal punishment here.  It is actually legal for
the SCHOOL to do more than it is legal for the PARENTS to do.  Here, if a
parent spanks a child, and leaves a bruse, HRS can get involved.  If the
teacher or principal does this, they cannot get involved unless the bruse
lasts more than a week.
                                                 Amber
system: You are Amber Floyd, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Suzanne Stewart about "Thank YOU".

They wrote:
>> Were you serious when you said ritalin was =pure speed, or just  joking?
>> I thought the stuff calmed down the brain ?? I don't understand here,
>> sorry.

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assistant: Yep, it is speed.  Stripped of the medecalese, here is my
understanding of what is going on.  In an ADHD kids brain, the part that
should help them slow down and pay attention dosn't work well.  Their
"Breaks" are mushy.  Ritalin speeds up the brain, in ALL people it takes,
but it speeds up THIS part of the brain a bit more than it does the other
parts, and for our kids, that is what they need.  More power to the
breaks.
                                                 Amber
system: You are Amber Floyd, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jerry Schwartz about "Thank YOU".

They wrote:
>> Ritalin is a stimulant, not a sedative.  In many people with AD(H)D, it
>> has the paradoxical effect of stimulating the parts of the brain that
>> reduce impulsiveness and help you concentrate.

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assistant: As far as i can tell, it does that in EVERYONE that takes it, but in
kids with ADD, that is what they need to combat a brain that is
underdeveloped in a specific (Attention focusing) area.
    It seems that kids without AD(H)D also have grade improvement while
on Ritalin, but they DON'T need it to handle school, where most of our
kids do.
                                            Amber
system: You are Suzanne Stewart, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jerry Schwartz about "In Tears".

They wrote:
> On May 04 23:40 96, Samantha of 1:253/120 wrote to All:
>
>
> S> The school Doctor wants to put him on ridalin and I ran to my family
> S> and
> S> she is sending us to a peditrician May 22.  I don't think drugs are the
> S> answer
> S> and I would like that to be the last straw.  They say his motor skills
>
> Why?  If they told you your son had diabetes, would you say "I don't think
> insulin is the answer"?  If they told you your son was near-sighted, would
> say "I don't think glasses are the answer"?
>
> Given a proper diagnosis, medication can be the best solution.
>
> Jerry Schwartz
>

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assistant: RE: In Tears
BY: Jerry Schwartz to Samantha on Tue May 07 1996 08:07 pm
doct
ar
y
    Hi Jerry, I have a son who is 24 now and when he was in school they put
him
on ridalin.....guess what he was a great kid! Never moved a inch. He was
stoned! I don't think medication for this is the answer not the first one
anyways!
Suzanne
system: You are Suzanne Stewart, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Audra Mcmaster about "Thanks".

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assistant: RE: In Tears
BY: Audra Mcmaster to Samantha on Tue May 07 1996 09:34 pm
Hi There Audra, thank you very much for your letter. You will notice that the
name is different I didn't want my alias on there so I changed it . sorry for
any wondering...
well I know of one child that went on ritalin and it didn't help at all so
they
put him on another kind of med and so far the parents are happy..
My son had an almost perfect week at school for the first time this year then
I was late picking him up and within an hour he blew his week.  The extra
hour was just too much for him. And today my friend gave him two bars a can
f
coke and he spun all day. I never noticed the difference until he has been of
sweets for two weeks and today was hell! For both of us I am afraid...
He is just into everything and climbs everywhere and kicks and screams if hes
not first and doesn't get his own way and if l try to hold him he is really
too
strong for my bad back.... fun stuff so far.
I got a hold of the number that was put on here for the Peterborough area and
there is a meeting this Wednesday and I am running to it.
I think as a parent I really need to vent here so I don't vent at him, it
ust
isn't his fault. I have been told to be sterner with him but find when you
corner him he just gets worse. I read hear about sending the child to their
room and have been doing that this week when he gets out of the yard. I tell
him when he goes out what will happen and if he does upstairs he goes. It
really seems to work. It is so much better than getting angry and venting...
and with the time in his room he can think things out too.
Get back to me as I really need help here!
Thank you for being here for me..
suzanne
system: You are Suzanne Stewart, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tracy Wirs about "psychic abilities & meds".

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assistant: RE: psychic abilities & meds
BY: Tracy Wirs to All on Tue May 07 1996 03:32 pm
Hi Tracy, Do you think that psychic abilities and addh go together? Just
wondering because my son who is four has psychic abilities. When he tells me
something is going to happen I now listen to him because he has been too
ight
too many times... interesting concept as I have psychic abilities and just
thought he got them from me....good one..
To get to your question I think med that dullens your mind would dullen your
psychic ablilites and if that doesn't bother you then there shouldn't be a
problem..depending on what you want there...
Please get back to me!
Suzanne
system: You are Suzanne Stewart, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Regina Finan about "In Tears".

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assistant: RE: In Tears
BY: Regina Finan to Samantha on Wed May 08 1996 09:57 pm
Thank you Regina for the welcome...well with my son being for he hasn't
said he hates me yet, or any other stuff, well he did say he had no friends
once. I just asked him if he could figure out why other children wouldn't
ant
to play with someone that hit them or wouldn't let them take turns like he
does
Not sure if he would understand at the age but he is a bright four year old.
The school has him down as addh and high IQ. He is the baby of the class
hich
makes it harder on him and he is basically an only child since his sister is
18 and not at home.
So here I sit with all these wonderful problems all by myself..well use to be
all by myself until I got out of the wrong echo and checked this one out. Man
was this an eye opener. Now I see that there are some that are for the med
nd
I just want to say that l would want to leave that for the last straw. Not
that
I am ruling it out, I would like to try everything else out first.
The school says addh and med no if a's or buts and my Doctor well two of them
so far say no way! Get a life and try everything else but that. My doctor was
very angry that they did not take him out of class for one on one learning
nd
I told them that and the egg on their faces looked great!
He now goes out of the class with one other child and is doing much better.
Even the teacher smiles from time to time ..
Thanks for your help and I hope this message isn't too long for anyone.
Suzanne
system: You are Suzanne Stewart, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ryan Williamson about "Thank YOU".

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assistant: RE: In Tears
BY: Ryan Williamson to Samantha on Wed May 08 1996 05:57 pm
Hi Ryan and thank you for all the information and such a nice letter...
Were you serious when you said ritalin was =pure speed, or just  joking?
I thought the stuff calmed down the brain ?? I don't understand here, sorry.
I am going to the addh meeting here in town this Wednesday and hopefully I
will
feel better, this echo sure is helping alot!
Because I am an older Mom the folks I know don't have kids my sons age so no
one has noticed that motor skill problems but the teacher in gym but the
doctor
we are seeing is also involved in the five counties program for kids so she
will beable to get him in sooner if there is a problem. I just don't see it!
Keep in touch and get back to me about the =pure speed part ok :)
Suzanne
system: You are Suzanne Stewart, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Martin Schaaf about "Re: In Tears".

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assistant: RE: Re: In Tears
BY: Martin Schaaf to Samantha on Thu May 09 1996 07:05 am
 Hi Martin I am not ruling out the med I just want it to be the last straw if
all possible....thanks for your comments but lots of doctors are wrong!
Suzanne
system: You are Suzanne Stewart, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kurt Schaaf about "In Tears".

They wrote:
> SS> If anyone could get back to me I sure would appreciate some help and
>
> You might want to call the NIH BBS toll-free number in the tagline below
> download the file ADHD.TXT from there. It's a good starting point for
> learning about ADD and ADHD.
>
>  * RM 1.31 0968 * National Institutes of Health (USA) BBS: 1-800-644-2271
>

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assistant: RE: In Tears
BY: Kurt Schaaf to Samantha on Fri May 10 1996 03:09 am
u
and
    Thanks Kurt for the information I will most certainly call them for that
file as I am really new at this fun stuff. Well not new at it just becoming
aware of it thanks to this echo. It is really giving me a good insight on the
problem and some of the helpful hints on how to deal with it. I know that
hen
I give my son lots of Love and Hugs he and I have a much better day.
    Tell me,is it a norm for a addh child to have lots of imaginary friends
that have to have their own place setting at the table of in front of the tv.
Yogart and Artattck go everywhere with my son..He also has Predy and Doyle
or
imagainary friends and I meet them every day !!! Is it part of the addh? or
just him?
chat with you soon
Suzanne
system: You are Martin Schaaf, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Audra Mcmaster about "Re: Help!".

They wrote:
MS> The police are expected to put up with speach, even
MS> offensive speach.
AM>
AM> They are suppose to put up with a smart mouth but not with being
AM> pushed out of the way by a child with an attitude and a smart mouth.

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assistant: Ahhhhh!  "pushed" sort of changes the picture, doesn't it...
Regards,
//.artin
system: You are Theresa Hamman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Julie Decker about "IEP Hell".

They wrote:
JD>    Theresa was in need of a Pepsi, so Julie, being the kind, generous
>person that she is, gave Theresa a diet Pepsi. Only after several
>swallows was she able to tell Julie of the miracle she witnessed in IEP
>Hell...
JD>TH>She truly is a miracle worker...but you know, Bryce is a miracle
>  >himself.  Every time I look at him I'm reminded how wonderful life
>  >really is.  He's the most precious thing in our lives and I thank God
>  >everyday for letting us have him. :)
JD>   Thank you for saying that. You're love and support through all the
>"fun" is a big part of why he is doing so remarkably good. I can't
>imagine life without him, nor would I want to. I'm so much stronger,
>more courageous and a great deal wiser because of him. I would not be
>making the phone calls I've been making lately that's for sure. 3 years
>ago I was afraid of my own shadow, now I'm looking people in the eyes
>and DEMANDING answers, Nicely of course (demure smile).
>   I called and was able to get the name of the person within the
>St. Board of Ed. and the address to send a copy of Mrs. Bishops letter
>to along with a letter from me expressing my concern. Copies will go to
>our local Board of Ed., the principals of all the schools in our
>district, and the Governors Council on Developmental Disabilities.
>I must confess, I truly am a Mother From Hell.    >:-}

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assistant: Thanks...I needed that...
Oh yes...you have that way about you.  They hide from me at the school,
I guess I'm not as nice when I demand something. <EG>
Oh yeah!  It will be interesting to see if they do something about it or
just try and ignore it!  I'm wondering when they are going to realize
just how determined the two of us are...DMFH is going to be a force to
be reckoned with!  BTW, I've noticed a slight reddish tint to your eyes
lately...the demon transformation seems to be taking effect.  I've
notices a couple of pointy bumps on the top of my head as well...hmmmmm.
Your fellow demon cuz...Theresa >:}
___
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system: You are Dave Billing, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Martin Schaaf about "Re: In Tears".

They wrote:
MS>Even more cogent is the recent article by Dr. Barkley.  Out of over 100
MS>articles reviewed by Barkeley, _not_one_ form of therapy ever worked fo
MS>AD(H)D children.  Medication was the _only_ successful treatment.

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assistant: Martin,
Where is this article? I'd like to read it.
...Dave...
...  No, I'm not an elitist.  Why do you ask, peasant?
 * Wave Rider 1.31 # 672 *
system: You are Mark Probert, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Wayne Stinson about "Rittlen Question".

They wrote:
WS>     Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question.  I am
WS>sorry it has taken me so long to get back but the last two weeks have
WS>really been hectic.  Haven't had time to much of anything that I want
WS>to do, putting out to many little fires.  Your answer is well put and
WS>makes lot of sense.  It will help in my decision.  Thanks again
===>Mark Probert<===

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assistant: WAYNE STINSON was thinking about Rittlen Question and keyed into
cyberspace:
You do not have to apologize to me. We are both fathers of ADHD kids.
Glad I helped.
              email at MSProbert@aol.con
system: You are Mark Probert, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Attention Def. message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to John Pummill about "Help!".

They wrote:
JP> three bus suspensions
JP> paddlings weekly
JP> suspended five times
JP> three or four teacher conferences
JP> licks three times in one day
JP> suspended for three days, suspended from the bus and three licks all
JP>in one day... the teacher was on the phone on and off with Audra all
JP>day trying to work with David, the principle stated that she DECIDED
JP>that David needed to be suspended.
JP> We are about to take no prisoners. This principle will go down in
JP>flames before all of this is over and she will be lucky if we do not
JP>sue for damages. Much of the stress this year has been due to David's
JP>grades in school and we have had much contact with the school. The
JP>teacher has tried all she can, I cannot fault her completely as I
JP>know her boss has not tried to help.  Now the board is pulling his
JP>record and the special ed director and the staff psychologist are
JP>going to review it and get back with Audra. After that we will decide
JP>who and when to burn. This will not happen like this again. We have a
JP>strong advocate on our side, a man that filed lawsuits against this
JP>ty years ago to have his son attended to properly. I hate to get into
JP>this with the system but it has to change.
===>Mark Probert<===

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assistant: JOHN PUMMILL was thinking about Help! and keyed into cyberspace:
Corporal punishment on an ADHD child is reprehensible. It is also
useless. It does not work. Is you child classified special ed? If he is
not, get him classified. He is entitled to the protection from this
abusive school.
David could not be suspended without a hearing if he is special ed
identified. And, demand getting discipline rules (i.e., no spanking or
corporal punishment) into his IEP. Some researchers have called ADHD one
of the disorders under the "Reward Deficiency Syndrome". IOW, these kids
respond to positive discipline, rather than negative. They will want to
earn rewards.
coun
Take no prisoners. Go to public school board meetings and name names
(and, let the press know you will be there). This is one of my favorite
guerilla tactics. Works wonders.
Another tactic (prevents lying): Every conversaion with the principal
should be summarized in a letter to her. Make certain it is complete.
Offer her the opportunity to make any corrections, in a letter back to
you, and tell her that the statements of YOUR letter will be deemed
factual if no response is received. Require her response to be sent
certified, return receipt. You should also do this when your son is
disciplined in any way. This way you have documentation.
Good luck. And give them hell.
              email at MSProbert@aol.con