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system: You are K7Muf@Aol.Com, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: need december monitor .zip file".

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assistant: From: K7MUF@aol.com
Subject: Re: need december monitor .zip file
I'm sure that someone else has already said this, but incase not, open the
locatiaon
nfbnet.org and go to either whats new or monitor. Hope thos helps.
                       Lee
system: You are Brett K Winchester, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: need december monitor .zip file".

They wrote:
> It would think it would be easier to just go to the home pge and get it
> from there.
>
> At 10:35 AM 2/5/98 MST, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >I would appreciate it very much if someone will send me the zip file
> >of the December Monitor.  I have lost my copy and need to replace it
> >and do not have ftp access at sork........
> >
> >

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assistant: From: Brett_WINCHESTER@icbvi.state.id.us (BRETT K WINCHESTER)
Subject: Re: need december monitor .zip file
Please re read carefuly the request below.  I admit that i misspelled
work in the last line, and I also did not mention that I do not have
web access at work either.  Pardon me for this, but in that we are
all overworked, patience is the greatest virtue.
tHANKS to all the responses and I now have replaced my missing file.
Take care and have a great evening......
************
Thanks
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world."  M. K. Ghandhi
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system: You are Empower@Smart.Net, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Comments made about an NFB state convent19:42:2402/05/98".

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assistant: From: empower@smart.net
Subject: Comments made about an NFB state convention
I'm forwarding this public message someone copied to me recently, not to
endorse its content, but so that we in the NFB are aware of,
can discuss, and possibly respond to the concerns it raises.
Jamal
system: You are Walt Cone, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Brett K Winchester about "need december monitor .zip file".

They wrote:
BW> I would appreciate it very much if someone will send me the zip file
BW> of the December Monitor.  I have lost my copy and need to replace it

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assistant: Hello BRETT!
Thursday February 05 1998 11:35, BRETT K WINCHESTER wrote to All:
     Well you can get it from my system.  Just register and you can
download it from file area 2, as brlm9712.zip.
     My system connects at 33200 now.
Walt
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assistant: From: Brett_WINCHESTER@icbvi.state.id.us (BRETT K WINCHESTER)
Subject: Re: need december monitor .zip file
thanks Walt, I got the file yesterday......
Thanks
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world."  M. K. Ghandhi
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system: You are Warren Figueiredo, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Empower@Smart.Net about "quick and dirty braille".

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assistant: Quoting from the your message:
As just one example, every apostrophe from the
printed document was translated as the braille apostrophe
character, followed by a question mark, a letter sign symbol and
finally the possessive s for which the apostrophe was necessary.
I would guess that the original file was done with a newer word process that
was set to uses what is called smart quotes--that is when the typist enters
either an apostrophe or quotation marks, the software automatically replaces
with them with curly quotes or single quotes which look more decorative to
print readers but play havoc with braille translation. This Braille
translation software cannot distinguish between a single quote used as an
apostrophe and the legitimate use of the character as single quotation marks.
I've seen that many, many times in newer documents. This feature can be
turned off.
Some people call this quick and dirty braille--a document that can be easily
produced and quickly distributed. Many readers acknowledge the limitations of
the translator and balance that with the lower cost and timely access of the
materials. They see the error, recognize what was meant and move on.
Others who would like to see better braille which is well-formatted and
proofread have several options.
1. Provide training to the person who generates the braille and not just carp
about the poor quality.
2. Find volunteers with the skills to see that the job is done well.
2. Raise funds for the professional production of the material. Braille
costs.
It's really a question of the chapter's priorities.
Warren
___
 * PW *
system: You are "Lisa Hall", a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "hello for 1998.".

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assistant: From: "lisa hall" <lisahall@texas.net>
Subject: hello for 1998.
Hi Warren,
I have lots of good news. I have recently purchased a new computer from
Richard Lampert in Austin, Texas.  I am learning Windows 95 on my own with
the help of some tutorials on tape, braille, and computer disks that I have
purchased over the last few months.  On my system I have the following
items:
An Open Book Unbound software with reconditioned HP 3p scanner version 3.5.
Jaws for Dos version 2.31
Jaws for Windows version 3.0.83
Duxbury Braille Translator for DOS
internal Doubletalk speech synthesizer
Soundblaster 16 sound card to use with Text Assist
56k external modem
color monitor for sighted folks
a set of stereo speakers
and many more software that comes with the system such as Internet
Explorer.
I have also purchased Microsoft Office 97 as well.  I am looking at getting
tutorials to help me learn the
By the way this computer have 32mb of RAM, 2gb hard drive, cdrom and 104
keyboard.
I also purchased Microsoft Office 97 at a real good deal for under $70.00.
 My goal is to learn Microsoft Office 97 as to the best of my ability as
well.  My goal for the future is to save enough money to get a better
printer than what I have.  Currently I am using Versapoint 20 which is in
today's standard to slow for braille production.  I hope to get a much
faster printer that prints both sides of the page.  Another goal is to
obtain a braille display for home use to check the braille output before it
hits the paper for final production.  I need to get on the ball and finish
my Braille Proofreading course so that I can meet these goals.  I am still
working for U.S. Long Distance.  I use the Alva Braille display for work as
well.
Look forward to hearing from you soon.
"Love can build a bridge."
Lisa Hall
lisahall@texas.net
San Antonio, Texas
system: You are Al And Masha Sten-Clanton, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: quick and dirty braille".

They wrote:
>
>
> Quoting from the your message:
> As just one example, every apostrophe from the
> printed document was translated as the braille apostrophe
> character, followed by a question mark, a letter sign symbol and
> finally the possessive s for which the apostrophe was necessary.
>
> I would guess that the original file was done with a newer word process
> was set to uses what is called smart quotes--that is when the typist enters
> either an apostrophe or quotation marks, the software automatically
> with them with curly quotes or single quotes which look more decorative to
> print readers but play havoc with braille translation. This Braille
> translation software cannot distinguish between a single quote used as an
> apostrophe and the legitimate use of the character as single quotation
> I've seen that many, many times in newer documents. This feature can be
> turned off.
>
>
> Some people call this quick and dirty braille--a document that can be
> produced and quickly distributed. Many readers acknowledge the limitations
> the translator and balance that with the lower cost and timely access of
> materials. They see the error, recognize what was meant and move on.
>

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assistant: From: Al and Masha Sten-Clanton <sweeties@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: quick and dirty braille
On 7 Feb 1998, Warren Figueiredo wrote:
that
replaces
marks.
easily
of
the
I can accept some imperfection in Braille that's needed quickly, but the
example Kelly Ford gave is pushing it a lot.  If you have to go to a
great deal of trouble to decipher it, bad Braille may be worse than none.
 I say that though Braille is almost always my medium of choice when I
can have it.
I don't want to be critical of our Oregon affiliate, not knowing what
resources it has.  I'm not surprised, however, if a guest at a convention
where such Braille problems and other apparent problems existed would
find fault.  He's certainly correct that few other organizations of any
kind in this country would get away with agendas that were difficult to
read.  I guess we just need to do our best, being gentle about our own
mistakes and those of others and learning what we can from them.
Al
system: You are Brett K Winchester, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: quick and dirty braille".

They wrote:
> Date sent:
> To:             NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org (Multiple recipients of NFBnet NFB-Talk
> Send reply to:  NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org (Multiple recipients of NFBnet NFB-Talk
> From:           sysop@NFBnet.org
>
>
> Quoting from the your message:
> As just one example, every apostrophe from the
> printed document was translated as the braille apostrophe
> character, followed by a question mark, a letter sign symbol and
> finally the possessive s for which the apostrophe was necessary.
>
> I would guess that the original file was done with a newer word process
> was set to uses what is called smart quotes--that is when the typist enters
> either an apostrophe or quotation marks, the software automatically
> with them with curly quotes or single quotes which look more decorative to
> print readers but play havoc with braille translation. This Braille
> translation software cannot distinguish between a single quote used as an
> apostrophe and the legitimate use of the character as single quotation
> I've seen that many, many times in newer documents. This feature can be
> turned off.
>
>
> Some people call this quick and dirty braille--a document that can be
> produced and quickly distributed. Many readers acknowledge the limitations
> the translator and balance that with the lower cost and timely access of
> materials. They see the error, recognize what was meant and move on.
>
> Others who would like to see better braille which is well-formatted and
> proofread have several options.
> 1. Provide training to the person who generates the braille and not just
> about the poor quality.
> 2. Find volunteers with the skills to see that the job is done well.
> 2. Raise funds for the professional production of the material. Braille
> costs.
>
> It's really a question of the chapter's priorities.
> Warren
>
> ___
>  * PW *
> Thanks

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assistant: From: Brett_WINCHESTER@icbvi.state.id.us (BRETT K WINCHESTER)
Subject: Re: quick and dirty braille
Warren,
Please tell me more (privately) about this "smart" quote feature.
Where is it found in the word processors setup and on which ones does
it show up?  I assume wp8.0 .......but are there others?
07- Feb- 1998 17:25:00 +0000 > Subject:        quick and dirty braille
Mailing List)
Mailing List)
that
replaces
marks.
easily
of
the
carp
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world."  M. K. Ghandhi
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                                                 fax 208-334-2963
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system: You are Marina.Eastham@Mail.Trincoll.Edu, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Questions about Braille at the College o11:00:1402/16/98".

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assistant: From: Marina.Eastham@Mail.Trincoll.Edu
Subject: Questions about Braille at the College or University Level (fwd)
system: You are "M. Thompson", a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Braille Quality from a University".

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assistant: From: "M. THOMPSON" <mthompso@NMSU.Edu>
Subject: Braille Quality from a University
Hi,
I serve on a task force to look into making Braille more available to our
students at NMSU.
Our University rarely if ever uses Certified Braille transcribers to
produce Braille for students.  We do however, have four Braille printers
on campus.  Some of these are available to students.
If we are going to provide Braille to our students how do you feel about
the following?
Is Braille produced via scanning and printing on a Braille printer "good
enough"?
Should we insist on the use of Certified Braille transcriptionsts when
producing class materials.
How would you rank the following?
Cost
Quality
Speed
Thanks
-Mike Thompson
 --
Mike Thompson (Systems Programming)  (505) 646-1364
New Mexico State University Computer Center - Room 133
Corner Stewart & Sweet
Las Cruces, New Mexico  88003
Fax (505) 646-5278
system: You are Al And Masha Sten-Clanton, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: Braille Quality from a University".

They wrote:
>
> If we are going to provide Braille to our students how do you feel about
> the following?
>
> Is Braille produced via scanning and printing on a Braille printer "good
> enough"?
>
> Should we insist on the use of Certified Braille transcriptionsts when
> producing class materials.
> > How would you rank the
> Speed
> > Thanks > > -Mike Thompson

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assistant: From: Al and Masha Sten-Clanton <sweeties@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: Braille Quality from a University
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, M. THOMPSON wrote:
I doubt that any document can be brailled immediately after scanning.
Some human intervention is needed every time, as far as I know:  I have
seen near-perfect scanning, but never perfect scanning, and there's no
value in translating any scanning errors into Braille.
I'd say no.  I'm sure no expert, but I suspect that, given a clean
document, a good Braille translator and some intelligent human
intervention ordinarily should be able to produce reasonable Braille.  I
also suspect that the human intervention would be especially important
when graphs or tables are being brailled.
following? > > Cost > Quality
I think the priority of these things might be different, depending on
whats being brailled.  I use Braille whenever I can, and would have been
happy to have a lot more of it in college and law school.  There probably
were times when top quality would have been essential.  With class
handouts, I would have been willing to sacrifice a modicum of quality if
this were necessary for me to get it fast enough for it to be useful in
my studies.  Im having trouble commenting sensibly about cost.  How much
it matters depends on what I can afford, to state the obvious.  I do
think, though, that if cheap Braille was as difficult to read as some of
the stuff Ive heard about, I'd forego the Braille and use readers, tapes,
or whatever else I could get.
And thank YOU for the questions.  I have spoken only for myself, but I
hope my comments have been a little useful.
Al Sten-Clanton
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Training Programme for Adaptive Tech02:03:4402/15/98".

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assistant: From: Jennie Honeycutt <puppya@netdoor.com>
Subject: Re: Training Programme for Adaptive Technology
Hi there,
I'm not a computer trainer or I mean adaptive technology trainer, but I do
have an opinion on what students should be taught. I guess I agree with
Peter, but I also feel it should depend on the student's situation. I
think it should be importantly suggested to a student, but not manditorily
required. Just my two cents worth as a prospective student. My kind of
field. Good work Warm Springs and San Antonio Texas!
Jenjen and the love express! puppya@netdor.com
system: You are Peter Donahue, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: braille or speech, literacy?".

They wrote:
>From: "cgclose.." <cgclose@city-net.com>
>Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 14:34:37 -0500 (EST)
>X-To: Multiple recipients of NFBnet Blind-Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: braille or speech, literacy?
>X-Listname: NFBnet Blind-Talk Mailing List
>To: BlindTlk@NFBnet.org (Multiple recipients of NFBnet Blind-Talk Mailing
>Reply-To: BlindTlk@NFBnet.org (Multiple recipients of NFBnet Blind-Talk
>Errors-To: sysop@NFBnet.org
>Sender: sysop@NFBnet.org
>X-Delivered-From: dns.city-net.com
>
>
>
>i, too, do not want to get in to a debate.  i think that the optimal thing
>is to be able to use as many alternative techniques as possible.  i am a
>regular braille user, but i do not have a braille display for my computer
>equipment.  although i find speech access efficient for most uses, there
>are certain things which it does not read well, such as legal citations.
>some of the characters in citations simply do not appear at all when
>reading back letter by letter.  to state the obvious, everyone needs to
>use any and all systems which improve performance;  all have advantages
>and disadvantages.  hoping we can move on.  cathy close
>
>
>
>
>

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assistant: From: Peter Donahue <pdonahue@texas.net>
Subject: Re: braille or speech, literacy?
Hello listers,
        I wanted to share this post with all those who received my post from
last night concerning adaptive technology training programs.  Kathy's point
of view illustrates why it is beneficial to expose a blind person to various
types of adaptive technology to allow them to decide under which
circumstances they will use which type of access.  Great thoughts Kathy, and
keep up the good work.
of viewSun, 15 Feb 1998 13:56:46 -0600 (CST)
<BlindTlk@NFBnet.org>
List)
Mailing List)
					Never underestimate the power of a dream.
Peter donahue
system: You are Barbara Freeman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: Braille Quality from a University".

They wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I serve on a task force to look into making Braille more available to our
> students at NMSU.
>
> Our University rarely if ever uses Certified Braille transcribers to
> produce Braille for students.  We do however, have four Braille printers
> on campus.  Some of these are available to students.
>
> If we are going to provide Braille to our students how do you feel about
> the following?
>
> Is Braille produced via scanning and printing on a Braille printer "good
> enough"?
>
> Should we insist on the use of Certified Braille transcriptionsts when
> producing class materials.
>
> How would you rank the following?
>
> Cost
> Quality
> Speed
>
> Thanks
>
> -Mike Thompson
>
>
>
>  --
>
> Mike Thompson (Systems Programming)  (505) 646-1364
> New Mexico State University Computer Center - Room 133
> Corner Stewart & Sweet
> Las Cruces, New Mexico  88003
> Fax (505) 646-5278
>
>

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assistant: From: Barbara Freeman <barbie@pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Braille Quality from a University
Here in Washington State we have a test for teachers and teacher's aids
who teach braille.  It is not as hard as the Transcripion Test but it does
make sure the the teacher can proof read.  Anyone who produces braille in
the public schools is required to take it also even if the transcribtion
is done by computer.
For more information contact Dr Bickford at the Washington State School
for the Blind.  He invented the test and we feel that it does test for
what these people need to know.
Any one running a braille transcription program with computers needs to
know braille.
Barbara Freeman
barbie@pacifier.com
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, M. THOMPSON wrote:
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assistant: From: Kelly Pierce <kelly@ripco.com>
Subject: computer users network news #15
challenges before us? Instead of trying to make each new gadget
talk, we could carry a simple hand-held device that would enable us
to read any screen we encounter, whether on an ATM machine or the
new clothes dryer. The Optacon was at the cutting edge of
technology when it appeared in the early 1970's. Instead of tossing
that technology onto the rubbish-heap, let us carry it forward and
see what the future may bring.
     For my part, I just want to go on reading my mail and cleaning
out my own purse. Those may seem like small things, but they have
a lot to do with large issues - such as privacy, dignity, and
self-respect.
     (Deborah Kent is a nationally-known freelance writer.  Among
her more than fifteen books available through the Library for the
BLind and Physically-Handicapped are: Belonging, Jody, Ohio,  One
Step at a Time, and Te Amo Means I Love You.)