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system: You are James Kelly, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "TN - Round 1".

They wrote:
> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996
> From: Katie0015@aol.com
> To: jkelly@wimsey.com
> Subject: TN RESULTS - Round One

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assistant: =========BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE=========
TENOR REPORT FROM AAC:
On Wendesday, July 24 Judge Nixon (TN Federal Court) turned down all motions
to intervene in the pending class action law suit filed by the Center for
Social Justice on behalf of Promise Doe (a Birthmother) and others.  The
decision was not a surprise to activists as the motions filed were friendly
and not hostile motions to intervene.  A hostile intervention represents that
the Attorney Generals office is not adequately representing a particular
case.  In this lawsuit the Attorney Generals office is working to uphold the
current Tennessee statute and therefore intervenors are not necessary.  The
motions to intervene allowed activists to put before the judge good
information pertaining to open records and to show that the plaintiffs in the
lawsuit were not representative of a class (birth and adoptive parents and
adoptees).  Harlan Dotson,III,  representing both the AAC and Tennessee
Coalition for Adoption Reform, was granted Amicus status (friend of the
court) which will allow activists to file informational briefs for the court
to consider.
On Thursday, July 25, the preliminary injunction hearing was held in
Nashville, Tennessee.  Bob Tuke (representing the TN Adoption Task Force
which drafted the current legislation)  and Harlan Dotson, III, spoke at the
hearing and Fred Greenman (AAC Coordinating Attorney) attended the
proceeding.  Judge Nixon withheld judgement and stated that he will issue a
written decision in a timely manner.  Those in attendance at the hearing felt
hopeful about the judge's future decision.
Kate Burke
TENOR Coordinator
=========END FORWARDED MESSAGE=========
system: You are James Kelly, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "TENNESSEE round 1 - update 2".

They wrote:
> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:45:18 EDT
> From: AACR76A@prodigy.com ( L ANNE   BABB)
> To: jkelly@wimsey.com
> Subject: AAC TENNESSEE UPDATE #2

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assistant: =========BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE=========
Distribute Freely
July 25, 1996
As Kate Burke, AAC's TENOR coordinator has announced, today Judge Nixon
turned down the motions to intervene in the pending class action lawsuit
filed by the American Center for Law & Justice on behalf of birth mother
Promise Doe and others seeking to disable the adoption records access portion
of TN's 1995 adoption law.
The judge allowed the AAC and TN Coalition for Adoption Reform (TNCAR) to
have Amicus Curiae (Friend of the Court) status.
At today's hearing, as Kate wrote, Judge Nixon stated that he would issue a
written decision in a timely manner. Following that decision,Judge Nixon then
partially lifted the restraining order he had issued the last week of June,
which barred the TN DHS from disseminating information about the new law and
releasing adoption records to those individuals entitled to have them. Today,
Judge Nixon said that TN DHS could once again disseminate information about
the new law, its implementation, and who it affects. Though DHS cannot
release the records in question to applicants, Judge Nixon has said DHS can
now once again accept applications for the information and release facts
about the new law.
The Brief Amicus Curiae filed by TN attorney Robert Tuke in defense of the TN
law, and other documents related to the case, can now be read at the AAC's
"Tennessee Complaint" pages at:
              http://pages.prodigy.com/adoptreform/tncomp.htm.
L. Anne Babb, Ph.D.
President, American Adoption Congress
aacr76a@prodigy.com
=========END FORWARDED MESSAGE=========
system: You are Michael Holt, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Katherine Wallo about "Katherine, are you there?".

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assistant: I want to talk about a number of things, first of which is whether I should
initiate a search over the objections of the birth mother.
Try me at mholt@freenet.vcu.edu first.
thanks.
... Neither of my mothers were pregnant.
system: You are Michael Holt, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Shannon Mcnickle about "Looking for birthmother".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Shannon McNickle to All <=-
SM> HI!!!!
SM> Could someone please help me find my adopted brothers birth
SM> mother.  Here is the information that I have.
SM> Name: Opal sins (The Deaconess Maternity Home says this name
SM> is an  alias).
SM> Brothers name at time of birth: Baby Boy Sims.
SM> Birthday: March 9, 1961.
SM> Born at: Deaconess Hospital, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
SM> ******** I think I know who the birth mother is...she is from
SM> Muskogee,  Oklahoma where my adopted brothers birth certificate says is
SM> the usual  residence of the birthmother. I went there and went through
SM> the old yearbooks  and found a lady that's name is Opal Dean Morris,
SM> her dates of attendance is  1957-1958, 1958-59, 1/2 year of 59-60, her
SM> birthday is 11-17-42, her address  upon entrance was 123 Cincinnati,
SM> Muskogee, Oklahoma and her father's name is  Robert Dee Morris. I just
SM> don't know if I need to go ahead and pursue this  further or not.

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assistant: Carry it forward.  The fact that you are asking suggests strongly that you
wish to know -- to have some sort of resolution to all this.
Find Robert Dee Morris today.  If he's dead, you can use his obituary
to locate his children.
All you're going to need to do is to ask her where she went to high school
and if she was doing anything special in '61.
(Didn't you post about her last year?)
... Remember when being a bastard was a birthright and not a lifestyle?
system: You are Wiley Jarrell, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Search in Jacksonville,FL".

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assistant: First of all, we believe that RAINES was our father's last name, so our
 birth certificates probably had RAINES as our last name - or it could
 have been my birth-mother's maiden name.
 My brother, two sisters, and I were put up for adoption back in May 1954.
 My brother Larry and I were blessed to have been adopted by the same
 couple.  Although they were good parents to us, they refused to help
 us find our birth parents - as I am sure a lot of you have found too.
 I have a half-sister from my mother's first marraige.  She was placed
 with my maternal grandmother.  I do not know her first or last name,
 but I do know that she was eleven years old in 1954, meaning her birth
 was probably in 1943.
 My brother LARRY CARL was born February 26, 1947 in Jacksonville, FL.
 He still lives in Florida.
 My name is GENEVA CECILE and I was born September 27, 1948 at the
 Duval Medical Center in Jacksonville, FL.
 My little sister was born June 17, 1952, also in Jacksonville, Florida.
 She was (supposedly) placed with relatives.
 If you recognize any of the above or even the name RAINES in
 Jacksonville, Florida, please drop me a note here - in care of:
 ...WILEY JARRELL.  Thank you.  /GCB
... Wiley A. Jarrell 15610 Edenvale Friendswood Tx 77546, 713-482-3671 ...
wjarrell@phoenix.net ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30
 * PDQWK 2.0~2 #48
system: You are Michael Lodico, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Need Help".

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assistant: I need some help with a newspaper search. Nancy Linde did an SSDI search for
me on the name Margaret Brown and she came up with a couple of hits. Well I
thought maybe I finnally had a lead so off to my local library to request
microfilm for the Boston Globe from the Boston Public Library. I requested
the obits for the months of 1/80 and 12/80. After a month of waiting my local
library was informed by the BPL that they don't lend them out.
My question is has anybody else run into a problem like this? Does anybody
know how to get this info? I can't just go there and look because I am 1200
miles away and I don't know anybody up there to have them check it out for
me. The way it stands now I am back to a dead end until I can find a way to
check this out. Seams like the more you search the worse it gets I sometimes
wonder if it is worth it.
If anybody has any ideas please let me know. Thanks
Michael Lodico
f/k/a Michael Dennis Brown
Still searching.
system: You are Lynn Gipson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Margaret Collins about "Being a Birth Mother...".

They wrote:
MC>I have never made a search to locate him, mainly because I did what I
MC>felt was best for him, and made sure that he had a good caring family
MC>that could care for him.
MC>But I wonder what he is like, and if he will ever search for me.
MC>I know that I will never activly search for him, because I feel that if
MC>he wants his life to be turned around in another direction then that is
MC>a choice that he must make when he is old enough to decide.
MC>I am however very afraid that he will not understand my reasons for
MC>giving him up. What I guess I want all of you to know, is that for most
MC>parents, whether they be mother or father, to give your child up has to
MC>be the most painful thing that they will ever do.
MC>I wonder everyday what he looks like, what he likes, is he having a good
MC>life, is he happy, is he... Yes I wonder everything about him.
MC>There will always be that part of me that is gone from my life, but I
MC>guess unlike a lot of people who have given a child up for adoption, I
MC>do not feel as though I am his mother. I was not there for the nights of
MC>pain when he had a fever, or lost his first tooth, or had some girl
MC>break his heart. I was not there when he hit the homerun, or caught his
MC>first fish. His Mother and Father were...
MC>Please, when you start to look for the part of your life that you have
MC>so many genuine questions about, please remember, that we are very
MC>frightened also, and there are a lot of those who have never told their
MC>family what has happened. Please tread very carefully, and make sure
MC>that you do this in the right manner.

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assistant: Hello Margaret,
As a birthmother who just found her son, I understand all of your
concerns.  This is natural.  My son will be 35 in Aug. and I only
recently actively searched for him.
I, like you, was missing that part of me.  Now I feel whole.  He has
told me that he feels the same way.  He has always wanted to meet me,
but was afraid to do an active search for the fear of rejection.  I had
the same fears, but it was time.
We are taking this very slowly.  I am allowing him to set his own
schedule for meeting the rest of our family and telling his parents
and sons about my finding him.  It has been almost 35 years since I last
saw him, and now that I have, I can wait until he makes the decision to
tell.  All things in good time is our motto.
Good luck to you if you decide to start your search.
        Lynn
 * SLMR 2.1a * If we let the dream die, what's the sense of waking up?
system: You are Margaret Collins, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Derek Henderson about "Being a Birth Mother...".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Derek Henderson to Margaret Collins <=-
DH> Hi Margaret, I'm 27 and was given up for adoption before I was even
DH> born. You said that you have decided not to search for your son
DH> becouse you didn't want his life turned arround. Well, I want you to
DH> know that he feels the same way. Right now he doesn't know what the
DH> "right" thing to do is. As far as you not being hie mother, I have to
DH> disagree with you there. Despite who raised him, you are still his
DH> mom, and until the day that he dies he WILL have a special place in
DH> his heart for you. For whatever reason you had to give him up, I think
DH> as he grows older he will realize what life is all about and come to
DH> understand that you did what you did for him, not for yourself, or
DH> becouse you didn't or still don't love him.
DH> I would really like to hear from you again. Perhaps both of us can
DH> better understand the other side of our positions. Take care, and
DH> please remember, you did what you as your sons mother thought was best
DH> for your child. That in itself is perhaps the biggest act of love.
DH> Derek Henderson

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assistant: Hello Derek,
  To not know reasons or have an understanding of why your mother gave
  you up for adoption must be very hard for you at times, but I do
  understand your birth mother's fear/reluctance of knowing you.
  My heart tells me everyday that I need to at least know if he is alive
  and doing well, but there is also the very real fear of rejection.
  There is also the very big fear of not living up to someone's
  expectations. (Will he think I am to ugly, not smart enough, ect...)
  My life when I gave birth was not a good one, and I was in no way
  prepared to raise a child in the circumstances that surrounded me. I
  realize that yes, there are programs like welfare and other programs,
  but I did not want him to go without the basic needs of life that I
  could not afford.
  When I found Ivan (The attorney I used), he was able to find parents
  that were desperate for a child, and were able to afford for a child
  more in life that I can probably even now give to my girls. I realize
  that money isn't everything, and that there are a lot of very happy
  people raising a family on very little income, but they are able to do
  that together with their spouse and have a family unit.
  I was able to know the complete background of the people who were
  adopting, and even offered the chance of meeting them, but I refused
  the meeting, knowing that if I knew who they were, and where they were
  from, it would make it so much harder for me to let go and to get on
  with the chore of living.
  Well, enough for now, I look foreward to hearing from you again, and
  thank you for taking the time to let me into your life for a bit.
  Take care,
  Margaret Collins
... A mind is a terrible thing to... OOOH!!! Animaniacs is on!
system: You are Shannon Mcnickle, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Michael Lodico about "Newspaper searching".

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assistant: Hi Michael,
        Have you considered call the newspaper offices? I work at one in
Oklahoma and I know that we have all of ours on microfilm we can not loan out
the microfilm but we can make copies of it.
Shannon McNickle
system: You are Kathryn Wallo, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Michael Holt about "Yes, I am here".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Michael Holt to Katherine Wallo <=-
MH> I want to talk about a number of things, first of which is whether I
MH> should initiate a search over the objections of the birth mother.
MH> Try me at mholt@freenet.vcu.edu first.
MH> ... Neither of my mothers were pregnant.

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assistant: What is your relationship to the one(s) being searched for? If it is one
 of your siblings or your birthfather then it may be appropriate... if you
 just know someone who is a birthmother and you want to find her child even
 though she doesn't want you to, then that would be intruding ... I know it
 can be tempting, but it is not fair to her or to the adoptee..
 My VCU account is being changed this weekend... new system and I will not
 be able to use it until mon... I am not even sure what my new address will
 be ... I think kwallo@atlas.vcu.edu ... by the way how do you ever even get
 on the freenet? all I ever got was busy tones
 hmmmm, guess you were hatched?
 talk to you later...           Kathryn
... "File Not Found"...what computers and adoption agencies both say!!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
system: You are Shannon Mcnickle, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Michael Holt about "Looking for birthmother".

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assistant: Thank you for the advise, I haven't really thought about trying to find him.
And yes I have posted this on here before.
Shannon McNickle
system: You are Duane Towler, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Joan Schultz about "advice".

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assistant: Just got back from Neb. and checked the messages real quick and did not read
very good but lets see if I can remember the post.Even though the state is
very big journey man listings are listed with the cities and addresses.So you
will not have no trouble there.Those listings can usually be found in your
library or in the county listings.As for the other question about fugitive
apprehension the reason I quit was my Best friend and partner was killed in a
accident last year so i just got out I still do basic leg work for the
company when they need it.But thats my story.Kinda late will  post later if
you would like please feel free to call on the weekends that gaurentees that
I am home.Chat at you later.
system: You are Mary Fuller, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Betty Heide about "Hello".

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assistant: Hello Betty!
Recently I've referred several to you that I've come into contact with via
Internet that were born/adopted in Indiana.  Whether they will actually
request
a registry form from you and return it remains to be seen!
I was in a down mood yesterday with thinking how nice it would be if people
would help you and me as much as we've helped others. I know that is not the
reason that we do it though.
I've been keeping an eye out for your birth mother's surname while doing
genealogical research.  How I would love to learn some information for you!
The other day I was giving thought to what is to become of the reunion
registry
that I maintain when something happens to me.  I don't have a premonition
hat
will happen soon.  At one time I felt maybe my son would continue it on but
now
highly doubt it. Have you given thought to yours?  I promise the registrants
confidentiality so definitely would not turn it over to just anyone.
Talk to you later.
-Mary
system: You are Michael Holt, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kathryn Wallo about "Yes, I am here".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Kathryn Wallo to Michael Holt <=-
KW> What is your relationship to the one(s) being searched for? If it is
KW> one of your siblings or your birthfather then it may be appropriate...
KW> if you just know someone who is a birthmother and you want to find her
KW> child even though she doesn't want you to, then that would be
KW> intruding ... I know it can be tempting, but it is not fair to her or
KW> to the adoptee..
MH> Try me at mholt@freenet.vcu.edu first.
KW> My VCU account is being changed this weekend... new system and I will
KW> not  be able to use it until mon... I am not even sure what my new
KW> address will be ... I think kwallo@atlas.vcu.edu ... by the way how do
KW> you ever even get on the freenet? all I ever got was busy tones
KW> ... "File Not Found"...what computers and adoption agencies both say!!

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assistant: Actually, it's a birthmother I know....she has said that she really
doesn't want her son to find his father -- who, it seems, really IS all
those things that angry women assert about the man who left them.  But,
after she lost a child recently (died at age 19), she's said more and more
often that she doesn't want to know that surrendered son; I feel that this
is really a desire to know what happened to him.
But I did promise that I'd not find him without her permission.
*sigh*  "Engineers just LOVE to change things."  -- Dr. McCoy.  I hope
it's working by now.
You have to be persistant when you try to get on the Freenet.  I found
that calling about 10 am worked well, and about 1 pm.  And, of course,
at those ungodly times during which no reasonable person is awake.
Hey, when a baby is to be adopted at birth, does the baby have the
hospital bracelet removed and replaced with something without the
child's name?  If so, does the birth mother keep it?  (I think my
two had plastic bracelets marked with the pediatrician's name,
the date of birth and "BG [or BB] Holt.")
At least, with computers it's a simple statement and not a judgement.
... Proof of genetic randomness: my adoptive family is normal.
system: You are Julie Marshall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Houston Tx area".

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assistant: Looking for the following person. Medical condition emergency:
Please run check on SS#, DMV and SSDI (hope not) for Houston Tx
SS#: 419-72-3280
Name: Deborah Joy Green Link
DOB: 12-27-1949
Date of marriage: October 20, 1977
Husbands name: Raymond Link (estranged) last saw her in 1984
Sisters in Houston: Janice Green Wright
                   Gloria Green Phillips
If anyone can locate Deborah, please contact me here or have her call me at
757-362-8135  Thank you Julie Marshall
... Please process ASAP  Thank You...
system: You are Lynn Gipson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Adoptees message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Michael Lodico about "Need Help".

They wrote:
ML>I need some help with a newspaper search. Nancy Linde did an SSDI search
ML>me on the name Margaret Brown and she came up with a couple of hits. Well
ML>thought maybe I finnally had a lead so off to my local library to request
ML>microfilm for the Boston Globe from the Boston Public Library. I requested
ML>obits for the months of 1/80 and 12/80. After a month of waiting my local
ML>library was informed by the BPL that they don't lend them out.
ML>The way it stands now I am back to a dead end until I can find a way to
ML>this out. Seams like the more you search the worse it gets I sometimes
ML>if it is worth it.

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assistant: Hi Michael,
for
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I am sorry that I am not in the area, otherwise I would look for you.
chec
wonde
As a birthmother who has just found her son, all the trials and
tribulations you are going through are worth it.  Good luck in your
search.
       Lynn
 * SLMR 2.1a * ... When you stop to think, don't forget to start again.