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system: You are Marty Blaise, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tal Ron about "Re: Relief pitching".

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assistant: I agree 100 percent.  I'm curious though - ElRoy Face won 18 games as a
relief pitcher in 1959 (? I think).  Or, what about a relief pitcher with a
real low ERA?  I guess they have to have a certain number of innings pitched
for the ERA title, though.  Is there a blown win, blown save, lead held, etc.
category we could look at?  Relief pitching sure is an interesting aspect of
baseball today, more so than years ago when a team had about five pitchers on
the whole team!!!
system: You are Marty Blaise, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Scott Zolnoski about "The "Hold" stat".

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assistant: Here is my "definition" of the hold stat: it's how long the manager can hold
the phone from the dugout when calling the bullpen!!!! Hope it has a long
cord!  Actually, I think the hold stat has something to do with keeping a
team in the ball game, such as a tie.  Maybe someone else can tell.  I bet
Bill James, the baseball stat analyst might know.
system: You are Chris Waldrop, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tal Ron about "Re: Surprise team of the".

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assistant: The team that's surprised me most this year is the Texas Rangers.  Being from
Texas, I've always been told "this year could be the year that they win it
all."  After hearing that for several years, I gave up on them.  Now, it
looks as if they may have a shot.
... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
system: You are Tal Ron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to David Lentz about "Re: Ozzie Smith, an All-star!?!?!?".

They wrote:
DL> Kind of disagree.
DL> John Wetteland remind of Dave Rigetti at the close of his Yankees
DL> career.  No lead is so big that he can't make a close game out of it.
DL> By the time Wettleland give done, all he has is one run lead.

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assistant: Is that a GOOD thing, giving up runs? =)
But seriously, looking at probably at a very important stat, I see that
Wetteland has 3 losses (after giving up Baines' HR last night in the 9th),
and Fetters has 2.  (Fetters:2-2, Wetteland:1-3)
Now, of course, this is also deceiving.  Wetteland has 38 saves and Fetters
20.  I don't know WHAT this all means, I just know that the figure I just
gave is very unfair towards Fetters.  I don't know, is Wetteland the best
closer?  Can we really judge this fairly?
Tal
system: You are Tal Ron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Hannes Ziery about "Re: Trades".

They wrote:
HZ> Hello Daniel!
HZ> Monday August 05 1996 11:48, Daniel Watson wrote to Bruce Marshall:
HZ>  ->> There have been a few weird trades recently, can someone please list
HZ>  ->> off  for me?  Like, how did big Cecil get to the Yankees, and for
HZ>  ->> who?
HZ> Wasn`t it Ruben Sierra?
HZ> Servus
HZ> Hannes
HZ> --- GoldED 2.50+
HZ>  * Origin: STRUCK EM OUT ON THREE PITCHES (2:316/777.1918)

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assistant: On Thu  8-Aug-1996  9:22p, Hannes Ziery said to Daniel Watson:
Yes it was
Tal
system: You are Tal Ron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ed Grinnell about "Re: Hmmm".

They wrote:
EG> Look back at the last 12 years (counting this year) and you'll see that
EG> the first 6 years of that period, Atlanta, Cleveland and Seattle were ALL
EG> trailing Milwaukee in gate revenue (Cleveland and Seattle were behind by
EG> an average of $7.5 mil per year while Atlanta was behind by an average of
EG> $8.5 mil per year. During one three year stretch, Milwaukee drew TWICE as
EG> many fans as the Braves) but in the last 6 years, they've all blown past
EG> Milwaukee. The only one that has a new stadium is Cleveland and they were
EG> already making progress before they moved into it. Of those teams, only
EG> Atlanta had the capital to go out for free agents and they paid dearly
EG> their stupidity. When they gave up that foolishness and committed to
EG> winning via their farm system, they went after a veteran, Terry
EG> to help with the younger players.

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assistant: n
or
endleton,
The Brewers had no choice.  They lost all their players to free-agency the
last  few years.  Surhoff, Hamilton, Molitor, Sheffield, etc.  This year they
were going to lose Vaughn, and made a smart trade.  The Brewers did NOT have
the money to resign them.  I don't have the facts and figures to support
this, but I know if you look at income over the past 3 years, the Brewers are
not high on this list.
Tal
system: You are Tal Ron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Paige Miller about "Re: Balk".

They wrote:
PM> 2) Faking to first
PM> 5) In the set position, not coming to a stop before pitching
PM> 6) In the set position, after coming to a stop, breaking your hands but
PM> not
PM> 8) Faking or throwing to an unoccupied base (except to make a play)
PM> 9) Dropping the ball during the pitching motion
PM> 10) And of course, the famous "catcher's balk" in which the pitcher
PM>     delivers a pitch as part of an intentional walk when the catcher is
PM>     not in the catcher's box.

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assistant: Thanks!  Most of those I didn't know, but I do have questions =)
How come I've seen that many times and it hasn't been called?  That's
range.
I don't understand 'set position'
No comment <big grin>
These two must make a pitcher feel kinda stupid, but not like the one I
quoted before =)
Tal
system: You are Greg Caliri, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to David Lentz about "Boston Braves (cont'd)".

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assistant: Want to clarify my remark about the Braves not being adept at public
relations -- supposedly, the players on the Braves were far more friendlier
toward the fans than the Red Sox, and for those fans who did go to Braves
Field, they felt more at home.
But throughout their history, the Braves tried publicity stunts, name
changes, etc., to no avail -- they also raised parking prices in 1952 and
made no secret about their wish to move after the 1952 season.  Their
attendance in their last year in Boston was below 250,000.  That's less than
3,300 a game, in a 75 date season! Someone told me they drew a paid
attendance of 60 for a weekday afternoon game in September 1952.  All this
during the post-war boom.
But there was some element of truth - a city like Boston, or Philadelphia,
and especially St. Louis - cannot support two teams.
system: You are Eric Davey, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "HOME RUN RECORD".

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assistant: GIVEN THE FACT THAT PLENTY OF MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS ARE ON A PACE TO BREAK THE
HOME RUN SEASON RECORD WHICH PLAYERS HAVE A POSSIBILITY TO DO SO?
system: You are James Dunlop, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Hannes Ziery about "Red Sox".

They wrote:
DL> Not quite.  The Brave left Boston in the 'Fifties when if became
DL> apparent that towns could support two major league franchises.  In the
HZ> Why did they go to Milwaukee. Were the Brewers not there in the Fifties?
DL> and the Dodgers left Brooklyn, to never be heard from again.
HZ> And the Dodgers have not been the same team since the move.

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assistant: In a message of <Sun 11 Aug 1996 03:46:20> to David Lentz (1:2613/313@), you
wrote:
No, the Brewers started as the Seattle Pilots, an expansion team in 1969.
After one season in Seattle, the owners had to sell the team, and Bud Selig
bought them and moved them a couple of days before the 1970 season started.
They then became known as the Milwaukee Brewers (and have been, of course,
ever since.)
There was an American League team known as the Brewers, back in 1901.  They
also only lasted one season, then more or less moved to St. Louis and became
the Browns.  They stayed in St. Louis until 1954, when they moved to
Baltimore and became the Orioles.  If you want to become more confused, there
also was a team back in 1901-02 known as the Baltimore Orioles.  They moved
to New York for the 1903 season, and became known as the Highlanders.  Later,
they changed the name of the team to the Yankees.
Amen to that.
system: You are Scott Zolnoski, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ed Grinnell about "Re: Relief pitching".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Ed Grinnell to Scott Zolnoski <=-
SZ> Well, they have the HOLD stat, but I've never actually read WHAT this
SZ> means!  Does anyone know the requirements to qualify for a HOLD???
EG> A reliever enters a game in a save situation, retires at least one
EG> batter, keeps the opposition from tying/going ahead and is then
EG> relieved by another pitcher.

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assistant: So it's like a save, only the pitcher doesn't complete the game?  It seems
to me that still doesn't really provide a way to quantify the contribution
of middle relievers.  But then again, the save isn't the most foolproof
stat either...
... Gonna need an umbrella if I'm gonna go insane... - Thrw.Muses
system: You are Paul Seppala, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ed Grinnell about "Hmmm".

They wrote:
-> PS> OTOH, Vaughn was an ideal trade candidate.  He was making pretty
-> big $$$ PS> and looking for a lot in his next contract.
-> What do you consider a lot? He's making $5.25 mil and wanted a raise
-> to $6. The Padres are hoping to sign him to his "Brewer" rates for 3
-> years.

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assistant: I'd say $5-6 M a year is a lot.  Especially for someone like Vaughn.  I
doubt he'll ever have a year as good as this one.
system: You are Bruce Marshall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Chris Waldrop about "Re: Surprise team of the".

They wrote:
CW> The team that's surprised me most this year is the Texas Rangers.  Being
CW> from
CW> Texas, I've always been told "this year could be the year that they win
CW> it
CW> all."  After hearing that for several years, I gave up on them.  Now, it
CW> looks as if they may have a shot.

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assistant: Hi Chris,
On <14 Aug, 22:04>, Chris Waldrop wrote to Tal Ron :
I have to disagre there, the (fighting) Montreal Expos hav to be the good
surprise team of the year and Baltimore and the Marlins have to be the worst
surprise team of the year.
Bruce
system: You are Paul Seppala, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Marty Blaise about "Relief pitching".

They wrote:
-> That is true, I guess the absolute least likely candidate then for a
-> Cy Young Award is the middle relief pitcher or the mop up guy.  The
-> middle guy comes in early when the starter gets bombed, and may or
-> may not finish the game.  You are so true about the wins for
-> relievers.  I guess, we should look at "blown saves" or protected
-> wins, etc. rather than wins, or specialized types of saves. What do
-> you think about ERA being a factor for relief pitchers???  Go Astros
-> (Virginia Astros next year???)!

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assistant: As a matter of fact, I doubt we'll ever see a middle reliever even come
close in the CY voting.
Blown saves ought to be considered in evaluating closers, though you
also ought to consider a split between easy, normal and tough saves, as
does Stats Inc in the anual Baseball Scoreboard (the categories depend
on how close the game is, how many outs there are and how many runners
are on when the reliever enters.
ERA is better than W-L for all pitchers, including middle relievers, but
somewhere you have to factor in how the pitcher handled any inherited
runners and how lucky/unlucky he was with any runners he left on.
system: You are Paul Seppala, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Chris Waldrop about "Re: Surprise team of the".

They wrote:
-> The team that's surprised me most this year is the Texas Rangers.
-> Being from Texas, I've always been told "this year could be the year
-> that they win it all."  After hearing that for several years, I gave
-> up on them.  Now, it looks as if they may have a shot.

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assistant: What about Minnesota?  The probably won't make the post-season but who'd
have thought they'd even be close to .500 without Puckett?
system: You are Paul Seppala, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tal Ron about "Re: Hmmm".

They wrote:
-> The Brewers had no choice.  They lost all their players to
-> free-agency the last few years.  Surhoff, Hamilton, Molitor,
-> Sheffield, etc.  This year they were going to lose Vaughn, and made a
-> smart trade.  The Brewers did NOT have the money to resign them.  I
-> don't have the facts and figures to support this, but I know if you
-> look at income over the past 3 years, the Brewers are not high on
-> this list.

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assistant: I've been following this thread for a while and there's a point of Ed's
that you haven't fully addressed.
Player salaries can be looked at as investments, not expenses.  You seem
to be assuming that each team has a fixed amount it can spend on player
salaries.  This implies that there's no financial return on this
spending and therefore the clubs should be trying to minimize salaries
to maximize profits (or minimize losses if you take some owners at their
word).
OTOH, if you look at salaries as investments, spending an extra $10 M on
hiring a couple of key free agents or keeping a popular local star could
means more wins, participation in a pennant or wild-card race and
increased revenues with increased attendance.
The criticism of Selig is that the Brewers get relatively poor
attendance (and reduced revenues) because he runs down his team by
claiming that they can't compete with so-called big-market teams (which
he confuses with big-spending teams), therefore his team is unlikely to
contend.  This is bound to turn off the fans.  Also, when they have
shelled out for big contracts, they spend poorly on guys like Higuera
and Vaughn.
system: You are Paul Seppala, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Eric Davey about "HOME RUN RECORD".

They wrote:
-> GIVEN THE FACT THAT PLENTY OF MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS ARE ON A PACE TO
-> BREAK THE HOME RUN SEASON RECORD WHICH PLAYERS HAVE A POSSIBILITY TO
-> DO SO?

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assistant: First, please turn off your caps lock.  Second, no one is on pace to hit
60 if by that you mean HR's per game played by the team.  Third, if
anyone breaks it this year it'll be McGwire.
But for McGwire to do that, he'd have to hit 22 in his team's last 43
games, or 1 HR every 2nd game.  As of Aug 11 he'd hit 39 in 89 games (so
he'd missed 30).  If he doesn't miss another game, and continues the
pace he's hit them in the games he's played, he'd wind up with 58.  My
guess is hell'll hit 53-54.
system: You are Tal Ron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Chris Waldrop about "Re: Surprise team of the year".

They wrote:
CW> The team that's surprised me most this year is the Texas Rangers.  Being
CW> from
CW> Texas, I've always been told "this year could be the year that they win
CW> all."  After hearing that for several years, I gave up on them.  Now, it
CW> looks as if they may have a shot.
CW> ... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
CW> --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0597
CW>  * Origin: Deacon Blue's   806-857-3501 (1:3825/21)

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assistant: On Wed 14-Aug-1996 10:04p, Chris Waldrop said to Tal Ron:
They're still on fire, this late in the season.  I don't know, maybe this
year they won't choke..
Tal
system: You are Tal Ron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Marty Blaise about "Re: Relief pitching".

They wrote:
MB> I agree 100 percent.  I'm curious though - ElRoy Face won 18 games as a
MB> relief pitcher in 1959 (? I think).  Or, what about a relief pitcher with
MB> a real low ERA?  I guess they have to have a certain number of innings
MB> pitched for the ERA title, though.  Is there a blown win, blown save,
MB> held, etc. category we could look at?  Relief pitching sure is an
MB> interesting aspect of baseball today, more so than years ago when a team
MB> had about five pitchers on the whole team!!!

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assistant: ead
I dont' think ERA should matter.  If you go in with a 2 run lead, give up 1
run in the 9th (a 9.00 ERA), that's ok.  Yes, blown saves (saves/save
opportunities) are kept track of.  ElRoy Face winning 18 games as a relief
pitcher means one thing.  His team sucked the first 5 or 6 innings and came
back in too many games.
Tal
system: You are Tal Ron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ed Grinnell about "Re: Relief pitching".

They wrote:
EG> Three innings is one criteria of a save.

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assistant: I really doubt it (I'm not sure though).  Fetters and the rest come in the
9th.  Maybe you mean 3 outs?
Tal
system: You are Tal Ron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Slugging %".

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assistant: What is this?  Another part of the game I don't understand.  And how come
I've seen it over 1?
Tal
system: You are Tal Ron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Eric Davey about "Re: HOME RUN RECORD".

They wrote:
ED> GIVEN THE FACT THAT PLENTY OF MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS ARE ON A PACE TO BREAK
ED> THE HOME RUN SEASON RECORD WHICH PLAYERS HAVE A POSSIBILITY TO DO SO?
ED> --- Maximus 3.01
ED>  * Origin: Iowa Midi BBS-Des Moines Ia(515)262-1370*28.8kUSR-DS (1:290/8)

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assistant: On Tue 13-Aug-1996 11:25p, Eric Davey wrote:
McGwire is the only one.  I heard a few days ago that in his last 162 games,
he's hit 70+ home runs.  I find it amazing he's missed 30 games and still has
42.  He needs to hit 1 every other game, just about.  Possible, not likely
(even though Sportscenter pointed out that if he gets 4 AB a game and plays
every game, and continues his AB-HR ratio of this year, he'll get it.
Tal
system: You are David Lentz, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tal Ron about "Re: Ozzie Smith, an All-s".

They wrote:
TR>DL> John Wetteland remind of Dave Rigetti at the close of his Yankees
TR>DL> career.  No lead is so big that he can't make a close game out of it.
TR>DL> By the time Wettleland give done, all he has is one run lead.
TR>Is that a GOOD thing, giving up runs? =)
TR>But seriously, looking at probably at a very important stat, I see that
TR>Wetteland has 3 losses (after giving up Baines' HR last night in the 9th),
TR>Fetters has 2.  (Fetters:2-2, Wetteland:1-3)
TR>Now, of course, this is also deceiving.  Wetteland has 38 saves and
TR>20.  I don't know WHAT this all means, I just know that the figure I just
TR>is very unfair towards Fetters.  I don't know, is Wetteland the best
TR>Can we really judge this fairly?

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assistant: Tal,
In a letter, you wrote:
and
etters
gave
closer?
I don't like the term closer, and seldom use it.  However John Wetteland
is only the second best relief pitcher on the Yankees. The Yankees best
relief pitcher is Mariano Rivera.
Happy Modeming -- David
system: You are Paige Miller, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tal Ron about "Balk".

They wrote:
-=> Tal Ron took a called strike three for saying to Paige Miller <=-
PM> 2) Faking to first
TR> How come I've seen that many times and it hasn't been called?  That's
TR> strange.
PM> 5) In the set position, not coming to a stop before pitching
PM> 6) In the set position, after coming to a stop, breaking your hands but
PM> not
TR> I don't understand 'set position'
PM> 8) Faking or throwing to an unoccupied base (except to make a play)
TR> No comment <big grin>
PM> 9) Dropping the ball during the pitching motion
PM> 10) And of course, the famous "catcher's balk" in which the pitcher
PM>     delivers a pitch as part of an intentional walk when the catcher is
PM>     not in the catcher's box.
TR> These two must make a pitcher feel kinda stupid, but not like the one
TR> I quoted before =)

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assistant: I think what you have seen is that the pitcher steps quickly backwards off
the rubber and then fakes. As soon as he disengages the rubber, he is
allowed to fake. This is a relatively new move -- for most of baseball's
history, no one did this. Faking with your foot still on the rubber is
indeed a balk.
Quoting rule 8.01: "Set Position shall be indicated by the pitcher when he
stands facing the batter with his entire pivot foot on, or in front of and
in contact with, and not off the end of the pitcher's plate, and his other
foot in front of the pitcher's plate, holding the ball in both hands in
front of his body and coming to a complete stop."
Well, that's what it says... I've called it!
Well, pitcher's don't like any balks being called.
See ya!
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system: You are Paul Mcenany, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Baseball message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Rangers".

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assistant: Rangers are back on the saddle again. Yee ha. Go figure, they start playing
like their usually post All-star break crap, but now we have a seven game win
streak and a 7 game lead in the west! Later.
                Paul McEnany
                Dallas, Tx