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user: You are replying to Struther Macfarlane about "Jeanneau de Canada, eh?".

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SM>Augustin:
SM>AH=>                      I guess you probably heard that Jeanneau has
>AH=>to build their 1996 28.1 and 35.1 in Canada, and hopefully, will
>AH=>larger models soon.
SM>Yup - first wind (get it, wind?... Ooooh, I kill me!) I got of it was
>their ad in SAIL magazine.  I haven't actually SEEN either of those
>models yet, though, and for that matter - nor has anyone else.  Larger
>models?... those two sizes seem to be pretty much what the market wants;
>but I can see Jeanneau wanting to build over here the way Beneteau does
>in the States.
SM>AH=>That means that the cost of buying a new one in these
>AH=>parts should go down since we won't have to deal with the FF exchange,
>AH=>freight from France, and a high duty rate...
SM>Perhaps.. and I agree that it "should" (note LARGE difference 'twixt
>should and could and would) force the price down: but I've honestly
>never seen the market retail price of ANYTHING go DOWN - it may stay the
>same, but never down.  THe idea of getting around all those peripheral
>costs you're talking about is so the parent company can make more money
>by not having to incur them; not to pass savings along to the customer.
>What happened when Toyota/Honda/whoever else began building cars in
>either the States or Canada?... cost didn't go down - it just held
>"steady" for a year or two.
SM>AH=>but I wonder if that will eventually effect the market value of
>AH=>used Jeanneaus...
SM>Who knows?... the only thing definitive about the market value of
>ANYTHING is that there is NOTHING definitive about the market value.
>Used boat prices go up and down with the general state of the economy
>and the publics ability (and interest) to pay: the rule being any item
>is only worth what the potential customer will pay.... no sense in
>building a better mouse trap that costs $15 to produce if the general
>value of mouse traps is only $1.99!  Their interest in buying a used
>sailboat?... depends, again, on the general economy and the way it
>affects peoples' spending patterns.  Remember a few years ago when
>sailboats hit a real slump?  POWERboats were all the rage and sailboats,
>while still very valuable to their owners, couldn't be GIVEN away
>(figure of speech, only).  Then, later, the fuel prices went WAAAAY up
>and suddenly people wanted sailboats again!  When their are suddenly 100
>people wanting to buy a sailboat but there's only 85 of them available
>on the market, the price (real selling price as opposed to asking price)
>goes WAAAAY up!
SM>Who knows?... Que sera sera!
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Augustin ....
Jeanneau just sold there assets to Beneteau ... there is no more
Jeanneau,  but they do have 5 or 6 boats that were built here to clear.
One of my guys in Montreal has a 28 and has all the prices.  R U
interested ?
Someone also told me ( just a rhumor ) that Benneteau is no longer going
to make boats here :-?
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