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system: You are Cameron Hall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Nick Blundell about "Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Nick Blundell to Cameron Hall on 20 Dec 97 05:13pm <=-
-=> Subj: Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs <=-
NB> Have noticed that when you have a dodgy bit of tape that the Hi-Fi track
NB> disappears and you get the horrible muffly, buzzy, hissy linear mono
NB> track for a few seconds.
NB> NICAM doesn't actually have anything to do with the recording or
NB> playback, it is just the high quality audio signal which is digital
NB> that comes on the TV channels, So you receive digital audio but still
NB> analogue picture.
NB> This is the case in the UK anyway, don't know if you have some
NB> equivalent where you are or not.
NB> Was the dBX type 2 method the combination of Chrome and Metal tape or
NB> something?
NB> Well believe it or not I have one and just wondered if anybody had
NB> heard of it, it is a 1981 110Watt amplifier with a heat pipe, lots of
NB> fins and an old stlye volume control, might be old but it still sounds
NB> good, as long as your not looking for surround sound or anything fancy.
NB> Talking about surround sound has anyone here heard of the Hafler
NB> Surround method?

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assistant: Headwear will aggravate this.
Have seen responses that NICAM is a companded audio system.  Same here.
dBX supplied part of the companding technology.
Yes.  Generally, it's very good.  However, pumping and video "trash"
have been known to add odd side-effects.
dBX type II is the consumer version for cassette/open reel
encode/decode units.  For the most part, it worked well, and unlike
Dolby, (B&C) it isn't level dependent for accurate decoding.  However,
a flat frequency response of the record/play chain is the main
requirement for good proformance.
A good design, with quality componants will always sound fine as long
as those componants are in fine working order. :-)
Yes.  However, Dolby Labs seems to be the dominant system, from what
I've seen.
Cameron Hall
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system: You are Kenneth Parrish, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Joe Kotroczo about "Noise Annoys".

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assistant: A sound card sounds far noisier on some headphones than others.
I don't understand how adding series resistance will help, though a
friend says to try it.
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system: You are Joe Kotroczo, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Terry Smith about "Matsushita (was: Scratch equipment...)".

They wrote:
TS>> SP-10, SP-15, and SP-25 turntables are among the pro items.
JK>> I see. Well, I also haven't heard of Technics pro audio gear. And, as
JK>> someone working in pro audio, I don't consider turntables as being pro.
TS> But then, you just reinforced that you are not experienced in pro audio,
TS> as you've indicated in other discussions where some of us have offered
TS> advice in other areas you've needed to learn under "trial by fire" work.
TS> BTW, pro TT's with self contained bases, arms, and cue monitors have
TS> traditionally been common only in Europe, while in other countries one
TS> traditionally needed to assemble such systems as an end user.

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assistant: Salut Terry,
Huh? I can remember only one discussion we had here. That was about telephone
hybrids. And I agree that I have no experience in broadcast audio. But on the
other hand, I'm working quite a number of years in live audio.
has
The only people I know that own turntables are DJs. And over here, they are
counted among the "artists", not the pro users.
The term "pro" is, over here, understood in quite a strict sense: stage and
studio. Perhaps this is were our misunderstanding lies.
But I'm willing to learn. So tell me, are there other Technics pro audio
items than turntables?
bye ....
         Joe
system: You are Cameron Hall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kenneth Parrish about "Re: Noise Annoys".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Kenneth Parrish to Joe Kotroczo on 31 Dec 97 09:42am <=-
-=> Subj: Re: Noise Annoys <=-
KP> A sound card sounds far noisier on some headphones than others.
KP> I don't understand how adding series resistance will help, though a
KP> friend says to try it.

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assistant: Each headphone / speaker system has it's own frequency response curve.
Because of this, some will accentuate the "hiss" more than others.
The theory here could be that if the amplifiers in the sound card have
a high degree of noise, the series resistance would REDUCE the amount
of signal fed to the headphone.  Because of the reduced level, the
audio output would have to be RAISED to compensate for the loss,
thereby pushing down the apparent noise level.
This can create other problems though.
If the impedance of the load placed on the amplifier is outside it's
design specs, instability can result. (not common)
The level needed to drive the headphones to the previously enjoyed
level could drive the sound card into clipping.
Note that headphones vary wildly in impedance and sensitivy.  Try
several brands.  A subtle change in frequency response would probably
do more then knocking the level back. :-)
Cameron Hall
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system: You are Kenneth Parrish, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Cameron Hall about "Re: Noise Annoys".

They wrote:
CH> KP> A sound card sounds far noisier on some headphones than others.
CH>Each headphone / speaker system has it's own frequency response
CH>curve. Because of this, some will accentuate the "hiss" more than
CH>others.
CH> KP> I don't understand how adding series resistance will help,
CH>        though a friend says to try it.
CH>The theory here could be that if the amplifiers in the sound card
CH>have a high degree of noise, the series resistance would REDUCE the
CH>amount of signal fed to the headphone.  Because of the reduced
CH>level, the audio output would have to be RAISED to compensate for
CH>the loss, thereby pushing down the apparent noise level.
CH>The level needed to drive the headphones to the previously CH>enjoyed
CH>Note that headphones vary wildly in impedance and sensitivy.  Try
CH>several brands.  A subtle change in frequency response would CH>

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assistant: I wonder if that explains the big hiss from the small Sony in-ear phones
versus the minimal hiss from the Optimus sealing type Pro-40s which are
now broken (plastic driver support piece cracked in I think normal use,
but a friend has a friend with access to a plastics welding lab, so
maybe they can be nicely repaired (nice compared to my plan to wrap a
piece of metal around the break and epoxy it)). Turning it up or down
seems to affect hiss little.
Noise from optoisolators, do you suppose?
level could drive the sound card into clipping.
Awful solid state clipping, too.
probably do more then knocking the level back. :-)
Noted.
Still, I think something wierd is going down, man.  <g>
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G.
system: You are Greg Kurth, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "HiFi VCR/Surround sound".

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assistant: It's time to replace my VCR, and I'm thinking I should get a unit with
surround sound built in. Any recommendations for a HiFi VCR with surround
sound?
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system: You are Cameron Hall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kenneth Parrish about "Re: Noise Annoys".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Kenneth Parrish to Cameron Hall on 2 Jan 98 03:31am <=-
-=> Subj: Re: Noise Annoys <=-
KP> I wonder if that explains the big hiss from the small Sony in-ear phones
KP> versus the minimal hiss from the Optimus sealing type Pro-40s which are
KP> now broken (plastic driver support piece cracked in I think normal use,
KP> but a friend has a friend with access to a plastics welding lab, so
KP> maybe they can be nicely repaired (nice compared to my plan to wrap a
KP> piece of metal around the break and epoxy it)). Turning it up or down
KP> seems to affect hiss little.
CH>>level, the audio output would have to be RAISED to compensate for
CH>>the loss, thereby pushing down the apparent noise level.
KP> Noise from optoisolators, do you suppose?
KP> Awful solid state clipping, too.

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assistant: Those Sony phones are extremely sensitive.  Any noise in the audio amps
will roar through.
Now, that's a real nice setup to know of.  We could use that... <VBG>
Regardless of the source, the concept's the same.
Yup. :-)
Cameron Hall
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system: You are Phil Roberts, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Greg Kurth about "HiFi VCR/Surround sound".

They wrote:
GK> It's time to replace my VCR, and I'm thinking I should get a
GK> unit with surround sound built in. Any recommendations for a HiFi VCR
GK> with surround sound?

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assistant: -=[ Quoting Greg Kurth to All ]=-
I'm liable to start a flame war on this thread, but here goes:
This will sound wierd, but I recommend you keep the surround decoder farther
down the chain than the VCR.  Don't spend too much on the VCR unless you're
getting into an "industrial" type unit.  I've had a SONY VCR before, and it's
the only brand I strongly recommend you NOT TO buy.  This VCR was a load of
trouble.  The electronics on it were great, but the tape transport was pretty
weak.
I'm using a 6-head Toshiba right now, and I'm very happy with it.  It's not
s
smart as the Sony, can't be programmed while it's rewinding even.  However,
the tape transport appears to be more rugged than the Sony.  It's also
cheaper.
I found one for $300 about a year ago.
Now, for where does the decoder go?  Well, anywhere but in the TV or VCR.
ou
can get a reciever with surround in it, or use an outboard decoder and a 2nd
amplifier, preferably with 3 or more channels.  If you're like most people,
you'll go with the 5-channel surround reciever.
Another alternative is to blow off surround sound altogether and just get a
decent quality 2-channel reciever or amplifier.  This won't give you as many
speakers, but you can buy better speakers since you'll only need 2 of them.
                                Phil
system: You are Nick Blundell, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Cameron Hall about "Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs".

They wrote:
-=>> Quoting Nick Blundell to Cameron Hall on 20 Dec 97 05:13pm <=-
-=>> Subj: Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs <=-
NB>> NICAM doesn't actually have anything to do with the recording or
NB>> playback, it is just the high quality audio signal which is digital
NB>> that comes on the TV channels, So you receive digital audio but still
NB>> analogue picture.
CH> Have seen responses that NICAM is a companded audio system.  Same here.
CH> dBX supplied part of the companding technology.
NB>> Talking about surround sound has anyone here heard of the Hafler
NB>> Surround method?
CH> Yes.  However, Dolby Labs seems to be the dominant system, from what
CH> I've seen.

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assistant: In a message of 31 Dec 97 at 08:55:00 Cameron Hall (1:2424/3120.0) wrote
To me (2:255/126.6) about Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs ...
Yeah noticed that!, that's what I was trying to say but the way they said
it was clearer and sounded more professional than my beat-round-the-bush
technique :-)
The Hafler surround setup is a cheap budget way of getting surround, a mate
of mine did try setting it up and it worked to a certain extent!
Cheers for now,
Nick
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system: You are Nick Blundell, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Rick Mcbroom about "Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs".

They wrote:
-=>> Quoting Nick Blundell to Rick Mcbroom <=-
NB>> Not really familiar with Betamax's myself, I know they were supposed
NB>> to be better quality than VHS but VHS just took off as the standard..
RM>  Dunno what test instruments would say, but to my eyes, Beta 2 looks
RM> better
RM>  than VHS SP. Nevertheless, John Q. Public percieved VHS's 6-hour
RM> capability
RM>  as a big advantage, apparently.
RM>  Another big advantage of Betamax is the smooth, fast tape handling.
RM> None of
RM>  the clunky unthreading of the tape, etc.  Of course, many current VHS
RM> decks
RM>  have copied the Betamax's tape handling techniques.  Imitation is the
RM> most
RM>  sincere form of flattery, and all..  ;-)
RM>  Also, at least one Betamax manufacturer (Pioneer) produced decks with
RM> linear
RM>  stereo sound.  But these were non-standard.  Linear stereo sound was
RM> never a
RM>  part of the official format specifications, and such decks are
RM> exceedingly
RM>  rare.
NB>> One of my VHS VCR's has got an Audio Dub facility..
RM>  Right.. audio dub was pretty much standard on early VHS Hi-Fi decks,
RM> and
RM>  some Betamax decks offered it, too. A few VHS decks even let you
RM> replace
RM>  the left and right linear soundtracks individually!
NB>> Cheers for now & Merry Christmas!
RM>  Thanks!
RM>  Hope you had a great one as well!

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assistant: In a message of 30 Dec 97 at 07:16:14 Rick Mcbroom (1:123/38.0) wrote
To me (2:255/126.6) about Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs ...
I would of prefered the enhanced quality that the extra storage space!
My newer VCR is better with the tape but the old one just clunks it about
and when it finished rewinding it just goes clunk and almost falls of the
desk! - Dunno what it does for the tape!!
Probably found in recycle centres or museums!!
Some VCRs definately have better features than others, used to have
Misubishi B-11 (Or something like that..) it had loads of options, it was
only Standard play but if you put a long play tape in and rewound it for
f.fwd it would clock up the long play time, You would think it would
register a 3 hour tape as 3 hours on the counter but it registered it as
6Hrs, So why if it could do this could it not play long play tapes?
Lots of liquid refreshments ... :-)
Cheers for now,
Nick
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system: You are Thom Kouwenhoven, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Don Dellmann about "Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs".

They wrote:
TK>> In long-play mode you can record up to 10 hours non-stop-music.... :)
DD> And on an open-reel auto-reverse deck from the '60's you can put 12 hours
DD> on a 3600' reel of tape at 1 7/8ips. :-)

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assistant: Mogge Don
Op 27 Dec 97 12:14 had jij het over *Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs*...
Hmmm...yes...but don't you think that NICAM coded music from a videotape
recorded in longplay mode will carry out a better sound quality than music
from a tapedeck on 1 7/8 ips....and isn't it cheaper? =)
Groetenzenzovoorts, Thom
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system: You are Greg Kurth, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Phil Roberts about "HIFI VCR/SURROUND SOUND".

They wrote:
PR>Another alternative is to blow off surround sound altogether and just get
PR>decent quality 2-channel reciever or amplifier.  This won't give you as
PR>speakers, but you can buy better speakers since you'll only need 2 of

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assistant: many
m.
       I already have separate preamp, amp, and tuner that I'm still
     happy with. My TV is only a year old. I prefer separates, but since
     my VCR bit the dust I thought I'd get the surround sound in the VCR
     because a separate SS unit costs a lot more than it does with a
     VCR.
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system: You are Kenneth Parrish, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Cameron Hall about "Re: Noise Annoys".

They wrote:
CH> Now, that's a real nice setup to know of.  We could use that...

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assistant: Well, after I've been making the plastic. . .
Next time I'm buying the KRELL soundcard. <G>
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system: You are Kenneth Parrish, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Thom Kouwenhoven about "Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs".

They wrote:
TK>Mogge Don
TK>Op 27 Dec 97 12:14 had jij het over *Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs*...
TK>TK>> In long-play mode you can record up to 10 hours
TK>non-stop-music.... :)
TK>DD> And on an open-reel auto-reverse deck from the '60's you can put
TK>12 hours DD> on a 3600' reel of tape at 1 7/8ips. :-)
TK>Hmmm...yes...but don't you think that NICAM coded music from a
TK>videotape recorded in longplay mode will carry out a better sound
TK>quality than music from a tapedeck on 1 7/8 ips....and isn't it
TK>cheaper? =)

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assistant: Isn't anyone concerned about the poor musicians after ten hours?!
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system: You are Cameron Hall, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Phil Roberts about "Re: HiFi VCR/Surround sound".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Phil Roberts to Greg Kurth on 3 Jan 98 12:46am <=-
-=> Subj: Re: HiFi VCR/Surround sound <=-
GK>> It's time to replace my VCR, and I'm thinking I should get a
GK>> unit with surround sound built in. Any recommendations for a HiFi VCR
GK>> with surround sound?
PR> I'm liable to start a flame war on this thread, but here goes:
PR> This will sound wierd, but I recommend you keep the surround decoder
PR> farther down the chain than the VCR.  Don't spend too much on the VCR

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assistant: [snip]
Excellent advice.  The VCR won't be the only medium that has encoding
that you'll encounter.  Ya never know if some artist decides to use it
in their CD release or whatever, such as a DVD player etc.
Cameron Hall
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system: You are Thom Kouwenhoven, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Greg Kurth about "HiFi VCR/Surround sound".

They wrote:
GK>        It's time to replace my VCR, and I'm thinking I should get a unit
GK> with surround sound built in. Any recommendations for a HiFi VCR with
GK> surround sound?

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assistant: A very good afternoon to you Greg
Op 01 Jan 98 12:25 you wrote something about *HiFi VCR/Surround sound*...
Well...if you want to use Dolby Pro Logic there is no need to replace your
VCR...Dolby Prologic signals are dereived from a (encoded)
stereosignal...your only need is a seperate Prologic encoder/decoder.
If you prefer Dolby-5.1 (5 digital full range channels) then you'll need a
recorder that supports it......I haven't seen them yet...by the way, DVD
should be already supporting Dolby-5.1 and MPEG-surround...this for what I've
heard anyway.
Most of the stereo videotapes I've seen were Prologic encoded....also
playable on stereosystems of course....maybe that's the reason why it is so
widely used.
Greetingzetcetera, Thom
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system: You are Thom Kouwenhoven, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Terry Smith about "Matsushita (was: Scratch equipment...)".

They wrote:
TK>> And the SL-1200MKII and SL-1210MKII ofcourse :)
TS> Not as of last time I checked, which has been a while.  Those have
TS> traditionally been semi-pro.

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assistant: A very good evening to you Terry
Op 29 Dec 97 14:36 you wrote something about *Matsushita (was: Scratch
equipment...)*...
Yep....that's right....but nowadays the SL1200 are almost the only selected
turntables by Pro's when it comes to use on the road....they are strong and
reliable....and offer a good soundreproduction nevertheless...
Greetingzetcetera, Thom
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system: You are Thom Kouwenhoven, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Joe Kotroczo about "Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs".

They wrote:
JK>>> Why should one use the big and clumsy tapes of a VCR to record audio
JK>>> if one has such nice alternatives as DAT.
TK>> In long-play mode you can record up to 10 hours non-stop-music.... :)
JK> So what? A 120-meter DAT tape in longplay-mode can record up to 8 hours
JK> non-stop-music. With the new Tascam double DAT recorder, you can expand
JK> that to 16 hours on two tapes sequentially.

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assistant: Hoi Joe
Op 29 Dec 97 02:01 had jij het over *Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs*...
n,
f
Yes....but what about the costs ?
Groetenzenzovoorts, Thom
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system: You are Thom Kouwenhoven, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Audio message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kenneth Parrish about "Acoustical Reflection".

They wrote:
KP>    Do you use ambience equipment?  Not me, but it interests me.

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assistant: A good morning to you Kenneth
Op 31 Dec 97 07:05 you wrote something about *Acoustical Reflection*...
I've experimented with pro audio stuff....I'm very interested in acoustical
corrections and things like that....
Greetingzetcetera, Thom
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