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system: You are Harvey Heagy, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Talking Watches".

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assistant: Does anyone know where you can buy a talking watch with a count-up timer?  I
have checked with L.S. and S. group, Maxieaids and the New York Lighthouse
for the Blind and all the talking watches that have timing capability have
count-down timers.  I think that is rather dumb since if you need to time
something you need count-up not count-down capability.  If anyone knows where
I can get one post a message in this conference.  Thanks.
Harvey
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assistant: From: "Nancy K. Martin" <martini@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: None
Doug,
It is good to hear from you again.
Nancy
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Dillon County NFB".

They wrote:
NF>in my opinion!
NF>Bob Acosta did far more good for both the CCB and A-C-B, than he
NF>ever did harm!
NF>He gave 15 years to the cause, though as a very charismatic person,
NF>power kind of went to his head a bit!
NF>James, I'd sure like to see your documentation in saying Bob Acosta
NF>ripped off A-C-B.
NF>Don't forget, NFB spent over one million dollars back in the late
NF>1970's trying to get the treasury of California back. And the NFB
NF>lost that one badly.
NF>Don't forget, both Sharon Gold and Kenneth have had their share of
NF>messing things up over the years!

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assistant: From: hheagy@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Dillon County NFB
On 1997-05-15 NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org said:
That's the under statement of the year.  If I were living the
kind of lifestyle he was living for those fifteen years I would
have "given to the cause," too although it would be more accurate
to say he took from the cause
Where have you been?  I refer you to the article in the June 1994
issue of the Braille Monitor called, "Robert Acosta: a Study in Lavish Living
and Limousines."  You don't remember when John Lopez whom he thought was one
of
his lieutenants blew the whistle on him for what he was doing with
C.C.B. money?  Maybe C.C.B. has hundreds of thousands of dollars to
spend on Mr. Acosta's personal lavish lifestyle, but I think the money could
have been better spent helping blind related causes than for
taking limousines to Dodger games and other such things.  He
should have been prosecuted by all rights and C.C.B. will
probably never get that money back.
And don't forget that he was also forced off the national A.C.B.
board for his wrong doing just as he was expelled from the N.F.B.
I don't know whether he was officially expelled from the A.C.B. or not, but
e
was certainly brought down and his efforts to form a third national
organization
of blind people failed miserably.
But I would say, just read the article most of which is taken
directly from C.C.B. board meeting transcripts and see if that's
how you would want your organization's money spent.
Wrong, we ultimately won that law suit.
You do have a partial point.  When Robert Acosta did it, it was
spread all over the Monitor and on presidential releases, but
when Sharon Gold misused money and abused her power which
eventually forced her resignation from both the national board of
directors and California state president, it was kept relatively quiet
especially the mess with the Lawrence Marcellino Center for the
Blind which crashed almost as soon as it began.
Harvey
system: You are Pete Donahue, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: Dillon County NFB".

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assistant: From: Pete Donahue <pdonahue@texas.net>
Subject: Re: Dillon County NFB
Hello Harvey and listers,
One more point is in order to make this piecure complete.  Last night a
message was posted here likening the operation of our National Board of
Directors coming in to California to the Russians coming in to Hungary
and Chezkoslovakia.  Did anyone stop to think that peraaps the assistance
from the National Organization was requested.  And given the situation at
the time  I am sure that those in California who wanted the Federation to
retain it's integretycalled for help from Dr. Jernigan and the National
Board as it was needed to straighten the mess out.  Please don't just
assume that the National board just marches in when things go wrong.
Their help must be sought.  this is also true of local chapters and state
affiliates.  I know of a local chapter President wwho when she realized
that the situation confronting her was too big for her to handle alone she
called for help from her state's leaders.  Please, let's stop this
business of likening our state and National Leaders to dictators,
comunists or something else like that.  It just isn't true!
Peter donahue
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Dillon County NFB".

They wrote:
>
>
> Hello Harvey and listers,
>
> One more point is in order to make this piecure complete.  Last night a
> message was posted here likening the operation of our National Board of
> Directors coming in to California to the Russians coming in to Hungary
> and Chezkoslovakia.  Did anyone stop to think that peraaps the assistance
> from the National Organization was requested.  And given the situation at
> the time  I am sure that those in California who wanted the Federation to
> retain it's integretycalled for help from Dr. Jernigan and the National
> Board as it was needed to straighten the mess out.  Please don't just
> assume that the National board just marches in when things go wrong.
> Their help must be sought.  this is also true of local chapters and state
> affiliates.  I know of a local chapter President wwho when she realized
> that the situation confronting her was too big for her to handle alone she
> called for help from her state's leaders.  Please, let's stop this
> business of likening our state and National Leaders to dictators,
> comunists or something else like that.  It just isn't true!
>
> Peter donahue
>
>
>
>
>

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assistant: From: Andy Baracco <abaracco@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Dillon County NFB
The Hungarian Communists asked the Russians to come in. Opponants of
Dubzch asked the Russians to come in. The question is, who asked Jernigan
to come into California. Answer, nobody I know.
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Pete Donahue wrote:
system: You are David Andrews, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: None".

They wrote:
NF>X-Listname: NFBnet NFB-Talk Mailing List
NF>X-Mailer: Juno 1.23
NF>X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1
NF>tHIS IS A TEST TO SEE IF ANYONE GETS THIS MESSAGE.  I LOOK FORWARD
NF>TO HEARING FROM ALL OF MY FRIENDS FROM wASHINGTON sTATE.

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assistant: From: David Andrews <dandrews@visi.com>
Subject: Re: None
Your message got through fine.  Welcome to the list.
David Andrews, Moderator
On 1997-05-14 NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org said to dandrews@visi.com
David Andrews (dandrews@visi.com)
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assistant: From: DAVID ANDREWS <72157.3547@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Purpose of List
This is just a reminder to those of you who use the NFB Talk Echo and mailing
list.  The purpose of the group is for the discussion of topics of interest
to NFB members and our friends.
The purpose is not to throw stones at the NFB, or any other organization for
that matter.  We may have strayed a little from that purpose in the past
couple days.
David Andrews, Moderator
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Dillon County NFB".

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assistant: From: MACK73DEN@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dillon County NFB
It is very interesting what revisionist history can do for a person.  I sat
in the front room of Tony Mannino's home at listened to him plan to remove
Bob Acosta from the state leadership of California Affiliate.  I sat in on at
least one meeting in 1976 when Bob planned on how he was going to get rid of
Jerry Drake, Tony Mannino and Muzzy Marcelino.  I watched as Bob rigged a
West Valley Chapter Raffle in the fall of 1974. I watched as Bob tried to
drive myself and Linda Anderson from the affiliate because he did not like
the company that Linda kept.  He got up in front of the West Valley Chapter
and personally attacked me for defending Linda in 1973.  I watched as Bob
would lie, cheat and betray his family, friends and mentors.  Don't believe
that their was an ethical bone in this man's body.  I was there and I saw
what he was capable of and what he did to destroy the affiliate as well as
individual members.  The untimely death of Tony and the attacks on Mr.
Jernigan in Iowa directly led to Bob taking advantage of this situation to
proceed with his plans to take over the affiliate.  Bob was not charismatic
he was a megalomaniac.  Gary Mackenstadt, Fred Schroeder, Jim Fox had all
left the state to persue employment opportunities.  If all of these
circumstances had not come together as they did Bob would never have done
what he did.  This is old history and it is documented.  I am just happy to
expend some of the disdain I have for what Bob did and is.  However, I am
very quick to say that we now probably have the best affiliate in California
that we have had in 20 years.  So, whoever or whatever Bob Acosta is, is
totally irrelevant to what the National Federation of the Blind of California
is accomplishing today.
Denise Mackenstadt
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Dillon County NFB".

They wrote:
ro>James and Harvey,
ro>You guys should go back in your history a bit -- To the early
ro>back in Iowa.
ro>Read up on all the Des Moines Register articles about Kenneth
ro>Jernigan and his abuse of funds and power at the Iowa
ro>This is what prompted him to flee Iowa, escaping prosecution,
ro>running off to Baltimore to start all over.

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assistant: From: hheagy@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Dillon County NFB
On 1997-05-15 ronsmith@netcom.com said:
1970's
Commission!
and
You should also remember that much of what the Des Moines
Register printed was later proven to be totally groundless by a
committee appointed by then Governor Bob Ray to investigate the
Iowa Commission for the Blind which found nothing wrong.  Also
Roxanne Conland an attorney who was trying to use all this trash
for her own political ends could find no grounds for prosecution
and failed in her bid for the governorship because of her
irresponsible actions in this matter.
Harvey
system: You are Richard Webb, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: Dillon County NFB".

They wrote:
>that peraaps the assistance from the National Organization was
>requested.  And given the situation at the time  I am sure that
>those in California who wanted the Federation to retain it's
>integretycalled for help from Dr. Jernigan and the National Board
>as it was needed to straighten the mess out.  Please don't just
>assume that the National board just marches in when things go wrong.
>Their help must be sought.  this is also true of local chapters and
>state affiliates.  I know of a local chapter President wwho when
>she realized that the situation confronting her was too big for her
>to handle alone she called for help from her state's leaders.
>Please, let's stop this business of likening our state and National
>Leaders to dictators, comunists or something else like that.  It
>just isn't true! Peter donahue

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assistant: From: Richard Webb <elspider@interl.net>
Subject: Re: Dillon County NFB
Hello everyone,
Recentlhy, Pete Donahue wrote to the list as follows:
I remember moving back to Iowa after the same garbage was starting here.
We had state leadership which was no longer responsive to the needs of
membership, but was kowtowing to the state agency for personal gain.  We're
still recovering from the reorganization then, which was necessary to keep
our organization focused and moving in the right direction.
Sylvester Nemmers was rightly expelled from NFB, and those who chose to go
with him did so of their own free will.
I feel strongly that when leadership in a state or local part of the NFB
does not conform with policy, the National leadership should step in.  If I
wanted a wishy washy leadership which was beholden to agencies for the
blind, I'd join ACb or another organization, but I don't.  I joined NFB
because we are the voice of the blind, and work to improve conditions for
the blind as well as educate the public.  These goals are inconsistent with
leadership which is more interested in feathering their nests than in
serving their communities.
Some other Monitor articles of interest:  "They Want Their Easter Dinner"
and a few on the Iowa situation should bring the matter into sharp focus.
Bob Acosta and the expelled leader from Iowa are of a kind, and I'm glad
they're gone from the sceen.
As a final note, should the Sylvester Nemmers and Bob Acosta ilk become the
norm, my  money and support will go elsewhere.
Regards,
Richard Webb,
Electric Spider Productions
Library music, music on hold, voice-overs, jingles & demos.
Email for voice and postal mail contact info.
Amateur call kb0ruu
[The above doesn't necessarily reflect my opinions, since
by the time you read this I may have changed my mind.]
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system: You are Mike Freeman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Albert Sten-Clanton about "TEST MESSAGE".

They wrote:
AS> This is a test to see whether messages
AS> from this BBS find their way to
AS> NFBNet.  Thanks!  Adam adds "Woof!"

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assistant: In an epistle to All dated 11 May 97 20:21, Albert Sten-Clanton writes:
Your message made it OK to Vancouver, Washington.
Mike Freeman; Internet: mikef@pacifier.com; Amateur Radio Callsign: K7UIJ
President, National Federation of the Blind of Washington
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system: You are Mike Freeman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Doug T Trimble about "NONE".

They wrote:
DT> tHIS IS A TEST TO SEE IF ANYONE GETS
DT> THIS MESSAGE.  I LOOK FORWARD TO
DT> HEARING FROM ALL OF MY FRIENDS FROM wASHINGTON sTATE.

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assistant: In an epistle to All dated 14 May 97 16:14, Doug T Trimble writes:
Hi, Doug!
Glad you're on the Internet. Your message has certainly reached
Vancouver, Washington, both via the Internet listserv and via
Fidonet (that's how I'm reading/replying to you now).
Think you'll enjoy the endless arguments/discussions/diatribes on
this and the NFB-Talk echo (grin).
I'm putting you in my Internet alias file.
See ya in te Big Easy.
Mike Freeman; Internet: mikef@pacifier.com; Amateur Radio
Callsign: K7UIJ
President, National Federation of the Blind of Washington
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system: You are Mike Freeman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Andy Baracco about "DILLON COUNTY NFB".

They wrote:
AB> Don't fool yourself for one minute.
AB> The national leadership keeps close
AB> track on what happens in state and
AB> local affiliates. I live in California.
AB> In 1978, we had the equivilant of what
AB> happened in Hungary in 1956, and
AB> Czechoslovakia in 1968.

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assistant: In an epistle to All dated 14 May 97 23:36, Andy Baracco writes:
Don't be so sure of that. The national leadership has no real way
of keeping track of what happens at local chapter meetings except
insofar as rank-and-file NFB members or chapter, state and
national officers who are chapter members deem it important to
inform national leaders of what's going on at that level. Even
state leaders must depend upon local chapter officers to keep them
informed of matters which may concern them except insofar as local
chapter members tell said state leaders about chapter activities
independently of the information supplied by chapter presidents
and other officers. Besides, there's no way the national
leadership could keep close track of everything going on
throughout the whole NFB -- it would be a mountain of minutiae and
NFB leaders at all levels have to deal with a good bit of that
anyway (grin).
Now *there*'s a loaded sentence if I ever read one. I will not
recount the events of that time in California here nor will I
debate the merits of various interpretations of those events.
Suffice it to say that things came to the attention of the
national leadership when disputes arose between the then state NFB
president and the affiliate's Board of Directors. Both entities
informed the national leadership of those disputes so it was
obviously made aware of them. That's a long way from the constant
monitoring implied by your message.
Mike Freeman; Internet: mikef@pacifier.com; Amateur Radio Callsign: K7UIJ
President, National Federation of the Blind of Washington
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system: You are Harvey Heagy, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ron Smith about "Re: Dillon County NFB".

They wrote:
RS> They waisted a lot of money on airline issues, and not enough on
RS> finding ways to making blind more employable.

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assistant: In a message Ron Smith typed to All
Obviously our course of action with the airlines wasn't harsh enough because
our problems with them seem to be resurging.
Also, you say that Bob Acosta justified his taking of money and perks by
saying that C.E.O.'s get these perks so why shouldn't he have them.  You
don't just get perks and benefits just because you happen to be president of
an organization particularly a non-proffit consumer organization that is
supposed to be bettering the lives of blind people.  If that were the case
then such a  person would be no better than the managers of lighthouses who
claim that blind people shouldn't have minimum wage because we don't produce
enough to justify it but yet we somehow produce enough for them to have
lavish salaries and fringe benefits which after all they should have because
they in their own minds are "helping those simpletons who wouldn't have a job
if it weren't for us kind-hearted benefactors."
true he may live far out, but who forced him to live where there is no
transportation in the first place?  Even a con artist has to justify their
own wrong doing even if it is nowhere but in their own minds.
Again, I'm not saying that everything the national leadership does is perfect
and maybe we the consumers should re-claim some of our power which we
constitutionally still have, but Both organizations certainly had the right
and the grounds to prosecute Bob Acosta.
Harvey
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assistant: From: dougtrimble@juno.com (Doug T Trimble)
Subject: Re: None
Nancey martain what is your personal address.
DougTrimble@juno.com
system: You are Ron Smith, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Nfb Blind News message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: Dillon County NFB".

They wrote:
> On 1997-05-15 ronsmith@netcom.com said:
>  ro>James and Harvey,
>  ro>You guys should go back in your history a bit -- To the early
> 1970's
>  ro>back in Iowa.
>  ro>Read up on all the Des Moines Register articles about Kenneth
>  ro>Jernigan and his abuse of funds and power at the Iowa
> Commission!
>  ro>This is what prompted him to flee Iowa, escaping prosecution,
> and
>  ro>running off to Baltimore to start all over.
> You should also remember that much of what the Des Moines
> Register printed was later proven to be totally groundless by a
> committee appointed by then Governor Bob Ray to investigate the
> Iowa Commission for the Blind which found nothing wrong.  Also
> Roxanne Conland an attorney who was trying to use all this trash
> for her own political ends could find no grounds for prosecution
> and failed in her bid for the governorship because of her
> irresponsible actions in this matter.
>
> Harvey
>
>

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assistant: From: Ron Smith <ronsmith@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Dillon County NFB
So  why did the governor of Iowa fire Jernigan from the Iowa Commission?
Don't forget the investigation of Jernigan from Pennsylvania and the
almost prosecution from what I don't currently recall.
On Fri, 16 May 1997 hheagy@delphi.com wrote:
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Dillon County NFB".

They wrote:
hh>NF>Don't forget, both Sharon Gold and Kenneth have had their share
hh>NF>of messing things up over the years!
hh>You do have a partial point.  When Robert Acosta did it, it was
hh>spread all over the Monitor and on presidential releases, but
hh>when Sharon Gold misused money and abused her power which
hh>eventually forced her resignation from both the national board of
hh>directors and California state president, it was kept relatively
hh>quiet especially the mess with the Lawrence Marcellino Center for
hh>the Blind which crashed almost as soon as it began.

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assistant: From: cones@aa.net
Subject: Re: Dillon County NFB
On 1997-05-15 NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org said:
     Remember the big difference between Sharon and Bob is Sharon left
quietly instead of having a quarel.
Walt
cones@aa.net
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