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system: You are Yannick Boucher, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Rich Lockyer about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
DS> The only thing I fear is this whole DVD business. I don't want to
DS> a CD-writer, only to discover that it is obselete in two years.
RL> I wouldn't worry about something that'll be obsolete in two years...
RL> that's a given as fast as technology is advancing.  What I worry about
RL> is the item that's obsolete by the time I take it out of the box.

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     If I can put my little 2 cents in the conversation, I'd say that I for
     one am not worried at all by DVD... What plays a part in the success of
     a new media is not it's quality, but it's release timing, which is
     something the DVD doesn't have, in my opinion, as the CD is just getting
     installed in computers and home-burning... I'm not worried the DVD will
     replace the CD (at least for a reasonable time), but rather that it'll
     replace the LaserDisc (which has already started... I'm not even sure
     they still release movies on LaserDisc...)
... Experience is directly proportional to ruined equipment.
system: You are Doug Moore, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Darryl Sloan about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
DS> The only thing I fear is this whole DVD business. I don't want to
DS> purchase a CD-writer, only to discover that it is obselete in two
DS> years.

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assistant: On (23 Feb 98) Darryl Sloan wrote to Graeme Jaye...
The way the computer industry is going today - just about
ANYTHING you buy will be obsolete in two years.
... At the prompt, remove disk, spit on it, then retry.
system: You are Rich Lockyer, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Yannick Boucher about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
YB> is something the DVD doesn't have, in my opinion, as the CD is
YB> just getting installed in computers and home-burning... I'm not worried
YB> the DVD will replace the CD (at least for a reasonable time), but rather
YB> that it'll     replace the LaserDisc (which has already started... I'm
YB> even sure     they still release movies on LaserDisc...)

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assistant: Hello Yannick!
On 28 Feb 98, Yannick Boucher wrote to Rich Lockyer:
not
I agree completely.
C-ya! Rich
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Gerry Clark about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> The main problems with both DCC and MD is that 1/ they are not
GJ> exactly in universal use
GC> I've been using a Mini Disk for over a year now and I've found
GC> it to be a really useful piece of kit both for domestic use
GC> and public  performance.
GC> The compression isn't obtrusive or obvious, even when playing
GC> at volume through a large PA.
GC> The greatest advantage for me though is the instantaneous
GC> response. I work a lot in theatre and the Mini Disk is
GC> absolutely ideal for providing sound effects or backing music
GC> where split-second timing is essential.
GC> I would urge people to buy one.
GC> Any drop in audio quality due to the compression algorithms is
GC> negligable compared to the practical benefits.

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assistant: Ho Gerry, How're you doin'?
On 27-Feb-98 at 09:32:29, Gerry Clark wrote to Graeme Jaye about
Digital recording
I don't doubt it.  But yours is a specific application and you
take the kit with you  <g>.  The original question was posed by
someone who wanted a universally portable format so that
*anyone* could play his audio recordings - obviously, MD could not
be said to fit into that bracket.
That's a matter of opinion.  You (and your audience) may find it
acceptable for the application but I can only say that I looked at
MD several years ago with a view to using it as an audio source via
an infra-red link.
In spite of the fact the IR link was not exactly wideband, blind
auditioning of the complete system revealed that there was still an
audible difference between the same material sourced from MD and CD.
Quite.  Horses for course -  and in this case, this is a major
advantage for you.
Mind you, I have found that there is still a slight delay from MD
and CD which can cause sync problems in my business (AV based
exhibitions).  Without a doubt the best systems for us rely on solid
state stores - they really *are* instantaneous <g>.
They'll have to hurry then.  I suspect the format will be dropped
before too long if the market doesn't pick up soon.  I can't see the
manufacturers continuing to support such an expensive device as a
loss leader forever.
That rather depends on what you want it for <bg>.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Rick Nolan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
> take the kit with you  <g>.  The original question was posed by
> someone who wanted a universally portable format so that
> *anyone* could play his audio recordings - obviously, MD could not
> be said to fit into that bracket.
>
GC>> The compression isn't obtrusive or obvious, even when playing
GC>> at volume through a large PA.
>
> That's a matter of opinion.  You (and your audience) may find it
> acceptable for the application but I can only say that I looked at
> MD several years ago with a view to using it as an audio source via
> an infra-red link.

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assistant: Hi Graeme
28 Feb 98, Graeme Jaye writes to Gerry Clark:
I can hear the difference and thats what counts.Sure you can play
with the EQ and make it reasonable for some sounds,but unless you
have your own soundman.........
Another reason that I didn't go the MD route for performances was that
I found they had a tendency to skip with relativley little vibration.
A Bose 5000 watt PA at medium to high levels was more than capable
of causing it to skip at the remotes maximum range,wherever I sited
the MD.
This was in the real early days of MD and things may have improved
since then....I know the prices certainly have :-)
Regards,
Rick
system: You are Yannick Boucher, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GC> I would urge people to buy one.
GJ> They'll have to hurry then.  I suspect the format will be dropped
GJ> before too long if the market doesn't pick up soon.  I can't see the
GJ> manufacturers continuing to support such an expensive device as a
GJ> loss leader forever.

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assistant: Well, I don't know for you, but I have been noticing a rise in interest
     for the Mini Disc lately... (maybe it's me...) and BTW, I don't believe
     the MD DATA uses compression... so that makes it a perfectly viable
     solution in my opinion... (one I am seriously considering... but I like
     my 1/4" for now... (considering I have them for free! :) )
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system: You are Yannick Boucher, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
YB> BTW, I don't  believe the MD DATA uses compression
GJ> Probably not - I don't know.  However, the original discussion was
GJ> about *audio* use - and there, compression is certainly in use.
YB> ... so that makes it a perfectly viable solution in my
YB> opinion... (one I am seriously considering... but I  like my
YB> 1/4" for now... (considering I have them for free! :) )
GJ> Have I missed something along the way?  You mean you are recording
GJ> data to 1/4"?

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assistant: yeah, well, the 564, MD4 & MDM-X4 can all use MD Data for recording
     the audio... you can use Audio MD, but the possibilities will be
     limited...
     Not at all! as you said, the discussion was about audio! I'm recording
     audio! :)  (sorry for the lack of clarity!)
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system: You are Yannick Boucher, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> I think the cassette will hang on for a while in the domestic
GJ> market - if only because of the almost universal availability of car
GJ> radio/cassette units.  I mean, have you ever *tried* to buy a radio
GJ> only unit?  I have, and it's nigh on impossible!
GJ> People like the simple technolgy required to make copies of their
GJ> favourite records for playing in the car.
GJ> way the market will move.  It should be interesting to watch what
GJ> happens over the next couple of years.  I think, if I had shares in
GJ> the DAT business, I'd be putting my money somewhere else <bg>.

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assistant: It's funny, because I have experienced the exact opposite! I tried
     to get cassette and I ended up with radio only! (2 times actually!!).
     But I wasn't the one buying the car so...  :)
     Yeah, well, if you have a CD player in the car, it's even simpler! ;)
     hehehe! which is what 3M did (not just with DAT)... (though I always
     thought they went a little too fast: they almost had the whole market to
     themselves when they did it...)
... Everybody should believe something: I believe I'll have another beer!
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Rick Nolan about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GC> The compression isn't obtrusive or obvious, even when playing
GC> at volume through a large PA.
> That's a matter of opinion.
RN> I can hear the difference and thats what counts.
RN> Another reason that I didn't go the MD route for performances
RN> was that I found they had a tendency to skip with relativley
RN> little vibration.
RN> A Bose 5000 watt PA at medium to high levels was more than
RN> capable of causing it to skip at the remotes maximum
RN> range,wherever I sited the MD.
RN> This was in the real early days of MD and things may have
RN> improved since then.
RN> ...I know the prices certainly have :-)

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assistant: Ho Rick, How're you doin'?
On 03-Mar-98 at 18:42:06, Rick Nolan wrote to Graeme Jaye about
Digital recording
Agreed.
I can see that could be a problem <bg>.
Oh dearie me.  Not a good idea.
Probaly.  I would have thought the 'walkman' version would have been
better for your application as these have a buffer ( of 2 or 3
seconds, AIR) to allow for skipping when someone is jogging with
one.
In a vain attempt to boost the market, which does not seem to be
happening.  I can't see this situation lasting for much longer, it
must be costing the manufacturers a fortune.
It looks to me like a repeat of the DAT scenario.  Prices were
dropped in an attempt to get the domestic market, nobody wanted to
play ball so the price went up again and only the professionals use
the things now.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Yannick Boucher, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> It looks to me like a repeat of the DAT scenario.  Prices were
GJ> dropped in an attempt to get the domestic market, nobody wanted to
GJ> play ball so the price went up again and only the professionals use
GJ> the things now.

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assistant: it's a good thing we have the professional world to pick up the *REAL*
     quality products!  :)
     I've been thinking about this lately... it is now obvious that the CD,
     with it's now accessible writing possibilities is putting the future
     of the audiocassette at jeopardy... but what about DAT? as far as
     mastering is concerned, will the CD-R replace the DAT in your opinion?
     Because, I, for one, have really no idea...
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system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Yannick Boucher about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> I suspect the format will be dropped before too long
YB> Well, I don't know for you, but I have been noticing a rise in
YB> interest for the Mini Disc lately
YB> BTW, I don't  believe the MD DATA uses compression
YB> ... so that makes it a perfectly viable solution in my
YB> opinion... (one I am seriously considering... but I  like my
YB> 1/4" for now... (considering I have them for free! :) )

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assistant: Ho Yannick, How're you doin'?
On 02-Mar-98 at 14:01:48, Yannick Boucher wrote to Graeme Jaye
about Digital recording
I can't say that I have.
Probably not - I don't know.  However, the original discussion was
about *audio* use - and there, compression is certainly in use.
Have I missed something along the way?  You mean you are recording
data to 1/4"?
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Yannick Boucher about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> only the professionals use the things now.
YB> it's a good thing we have the professional world to pick up
YB> the  *REAL* quality products!  :)
YB> I've been thinking about this lately... it is now obvious that
YB> the  CD, with it's now accessible writing possibilities is
YB> putting the future of the audiocassette at jeopardy.
YB> .. but what about DAT? as far as mastering is concerned, will
YB> the CD-R replace the DAT in your  opinion? Because, I, for
YB> one, have really no idea...

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assistant: Ho Yannick, How're you doin'?
On 05-Mar-98 at 18:20:58, Yannick Boucher wrote to Graeme Jaye
about Digital recording
I'm sure the format would have died a death long ago if it had not
been for this.  I think the real problem with the domestic machines
was the obligatory use of SCMS - the punters just weren't
interested.
Maybe.  Almost certainly in professional applications.  I know of a
number of studios which will now supply rough mixes, etc to their
clients on CD if required.
I think the cassette will hang on for a while in the domestic
market - if only because of the almost universal availability of car
radio/cassette units.  I mean, have you ever *tried* to buy a radio
only unit?  I have, and it's nigh on impossible!
People like the simple technolgy required to make copies of their
favourite records for playing in the car.
Neither have I, to be honest.  Certainly CD as an *archival* medium
is preferable to DAT - for day-to-day use, I'm not so certain which
way the market will move.  It should be interesting to watch what
happens over the next couple of years.  I think, if I had shares in
the DAT business, I'd be putting my money somewhere else <bg>.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Rick Nolan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
YB>> .. but what about DAT? as far as mastering is concerned, will
YB>> the CD-R replace the DAT in your  opinion? Because, I, for
YB>> one, have really no idea...
>
> Neither have I, to be honest.  Certainly CD as an *archival* medium
> is preferable to DAT - for day-to-day use, I'm not so certain which
> way the market will move.  It should be interesting to watch what
> happens over the next couple of years.  I think, if I had shares in
> the DAT business, I'd be putting my money somewhere else <bg>.

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assistant: Hi Graeme
08 Mar 98, Graeme Jaye writes to Yannick Boucher:
I use DAT for audio lots,and one problem it does have is that even Pro
gear tape handleing is not that robust,and consumer quality DAT is a
joke as far as reliability is concerned for audio.
The Techs I've asked about this tell me its something to do with the
physical size of the mechanism..apparently if the standard had been
set about 100% larger they would have obtained VCR reliability at
a reasonable price but because its so small its expensive to make and
fragile.
CD-R is dead,and DAT is dying and I need something better right now :-)
Regards,
Rick
system: You are Rich Lockyer, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Yannick Boucher about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ>> radio/cassette units.  I mean, have you ever *tried* to buy a radio
GJ>> only unit?  I have, and it's nigh on impossible!
YB>      It's funny, because I have experienced the exact opposite! I tried
YB>      to get cassette and I ended up with radio only! (2 times
YB>      But I wasn't the one buying the car so...  :)

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assistant: Hello Yannick!
On 08 Mar 98, Yannick Boucher wrote to Graeme Jaye:
actually!!).
On the showroom floor, sure... The automakers put radio-only units in mosr
cars because they assume that the buyer will want a system personally
tailored.  You can order anything, including AM/FM/Cass with CD changer, from
the factory...
...and I found that a CD-only add-in from Toyota to fit the opening under my
AM/FM was about $50 less than it cost me to refit the entire system with a
JVC 12-disk changer and AM/FM/Cass (w/changer control and remote) and two
extra speakers for the back... and I still have my little opening under the
radio for an extra pack of smokes and gas reciepts.
Even the salesdrones will tell you that you're better off buying the car with
a radio only and spending a few hundred on a system you like, rather than
spending a few hundred on a factory system that isn't that good, or a
thousand or more on a factory Bose system.
C-ya! Rich
system: You are Yannick Boucher, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Rich Lockyer about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
RL> Even the salesdrones will tell you that you're better off buying the
RL> car with a radio only and spending a few hundred on a system you like,
RL> rather than spending a few hundred on a factory system that isn't that
RL> good, or a thousand or more on a factory Bose system.

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assistant: that's true! Original car radios are ridiculously high-priced... but
     most of them are manufactured by well-known companies (Sony does most
     of the japanese cars... and I think Motorola has a lot to do with
     Ford Electronics (not just the radio) )... anyways, there are many good
     car stereo systems... too much, in my opinion!
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system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Yannick Boucher about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> the original discussion was about *audio* use - and there,
GJ> compression is certainly in use.
YB> yeah, well, the 564, MD4 & MDM-X4 can all use MD Data for
YB> recording the audio... you can use Audio MD, but the
YB> possibilities will be limited...
GJ> You mean you are recording data to 1/4"?
YB> Not at all! as you said, the discussion was about audio! I'm
YB> recording audio! :)  (sorry for the lack of clarity!)

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assistant: Ho Yannick, How're you doin'?
On 08-Mar-98 at 20:30:53, Yannick Boucher wrote to Graeme Jaye
about Digital recording
You need to go back to the original thread - the requirement was for
an audio distribution medium, the palyback for which would be
available to the maximum number of possibly interested parties.
On this basis, I recommended CD as the *only* viable option, given
the situation which prevails in the market place today.
It happens to me all the time <bg>>
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Yannick Boucher about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> have you ever *tried* to buy a radio only unit?  I have, and
GJ> it's nigh on impossible!
YB> It's funny, because I have experienced the exact opposite! I
YB> tried to get cassette and I ended up with radio only! (2 times
YB> actually!!).
GJ> People like the simple technolgy required to make copies of
GJ> their favourite records for playing in the car.
YB> Yeah, well, if you have a CD player in the car, it's even
YB> simpler! ;)

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assistant: Ho Yannick, How're you doin'?
On 08-Mar-98 at 20:36:04, Yannick Boucher wrote to Graeme Jaye
about Digital recording
Well, I don't know about where you live, but in Engalnd car *radios*
are as rare as hens teeth - they invariably have a cassette unit as
well.
But considerably more expensive!!  I thought about buying a car
radio/CD but was instantly put off the idea when I found the
cheapest one was well over 200 pounds (about $320).  That put paid
to that idea right away, I can tell you.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England