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assistant: From: Pete Donahue <pdonahue@texas.net>
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
Hello Andy and listers,
If you think that our gentral sessions aren't spread out enough I know of
some organizations whose general sessions go on in to the wee hours of the
morning.  For example when we were in Houston earlier this month our
Friday   evening session began at 7 P.M. and didn't let out until 4
O'clock on SAturday morning.  WE began our Saturday sessions at 10 A.M.
and they lasted until 3 A.M. on Sundayy.  I heard that one year the main
speaker of the evening didn't give his presentation until 3 the next
morning and didn't finnish until 5 30.  Forget about sleep that night.  I
have yet to see that happen at one of our National Conventions.  Believe
me we have it made with our present convention schedule, but perhaps as
the need arises adjustments will be made.
Peter Donahue
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>If you think that our general sessions aren't spread out enough I
>know of some organizations whose general sessions go on in to the
>wee hours of the morning.  For example when we were in Houston
>earlier this month our Friday   evening session began at 7 P.M. and
>didn't let out until 4 O'clock on SAturday morning.  WE began our
>Saturday sessions at 10 A.M. and they lasted until 3 A.M. on
>Sundayy.  I heard that one year the main speaker of the evening

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assistant: From: Richard Webb <elspider@interl.net>
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
On 1997-09-17 pdonahue@texas.net said
<deletia>
Part of that is we don't have the parliamentary procedure wrangling
you get in some organizations.  I did a political party's county
convention in '88, and those folks can drone on <g>.
AS for Harvey's idea of starting morning sessions an hour earlier, I
can see the merit in this.  All everybody's got to do is party an hour
less <grin>.  I don't mind, as when I make it to convention, sleep
comes at a premium anyway.
Upon reading the August September Monitor today, I see our convention
was as full of activity as usual.  Would have liked to have been
there.  We can't really afford as a movement to forego afternoon
sessions so that divisions and committees can work.
That's one reason all divisions and committees should start such
things as internet listservs.  It keeps the members working together
all year long, as well as discussing joint concerns.  Division work,
just like general federation activity, should continue throughout the
year to be effective, and the net can help the process.
REgards,
Richard Webb
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HH> Obviously a third term for a president was enough of a
HH> problem that 2 thirds of congress and 3 fourths of the
HH> states made it part of the constitution so as to insure
HH> that the courts couldn't strike it down.

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assistant: Hi Harvey,
True enough, but the same can be said of prohibition.  Anyway, my point
is that term limits are not the solution for all political bodies simply
because they are in the US constitution.  We need to examine term limits
as they fit into our organization.
The bottom line is, though, you think it would be a good idea and I
don't.  We simply disagree on that one.  We made our points.
Steve Jacobson
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assistant: From: hheagy@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
I am not necessarily saying that term limits would be good for
the N.F.B. as there are advantages both ways.  I was merely
pointing out that where the U.S. is concerned F.D.R. apparently
became powerful enough that unlimited terms was something that
was decided to be not in the best interest of the nation.
I just think it should be open-mindedly looked at.  There is
another change we might consider, and I said, "consider."  I know
we don't like to copy anything the A.C.B. does, but their format
of a general session in the morning and division meetings in the
afternoon may be an idea whose time has come for us.  We are
becoming so big that people with varied interests can't possibly
get to as many division meetings as they would like to.  Perhaps
spreading them out throughout the week would be something that
deserves consideration.  True, we would not be getting as much of
an overview, but we would be able to get more in depth
information about topics of personal interest.  I am not saying
our format is bad; just that this may be a good thing.  The
National Association of Broadcasters convention is composed
entirely of workshops except for an opening general session which
is largely ceremonial in nature.
Harvey
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assistant: Dear Listers:
Can anyone tell me if
there are programs known as:
Guispeak, Soft Voice, and Voice Pilot?
I sure would like to get more info.
Many thanks.
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>
>
>Hi Harvey,
>
> -=> Quoting Harvey Heagy to Steve Jacobson <=-
>
> HH> Obviously a third term for a president was enough of a
> HH> problem that 2 thirds of congress and 3 fourths of the
> HH> states made it part of the constitution so as to insure
> HH> that the courts couldn't strike it down.
>
>True enough, but the same can be said of prohibition.  Anyway, my point
>is that term limits are not the solution for all political bodies simply
>because they are in the US constitution.  We need to examine term limits
>as they fit into our organization.
>
>The bottom line is, though, you think it would be a good idea and I
>don't.  We simply disagree on that one.  We made our points.
>
>Steve Jacobson
>
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>
>

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assistant: From: ksmith@utah-inter.net (Karl Smith)
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
Hi Harvey and Steve, etc.
A friend of mine made a statement about term limits which I think really
sums things up perfectly.  He said that we expect the government to do so
many  things for us for which we should be responsible--even fire themselves.
At 02:59 AM 9/15/97 GMT, you wrote:
Karl Smith
CSA Adaptive Products and Services
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84119
Phone		801-967-5655
Toll Free	800-335-4995
Fax		801-969-4357
E-mail		KSMITH@UTAH-INTER.NET
	"Never confuse an open mind with an empty head."
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assistant: From: Al and Masha Sten-Clanton <sweeties@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
Greetings!
It might indeed be good to have a convention format with general sessions
in the morning and division meetings in the afternoon.  My immediate
reaction is one of reluctance, however.  When I attended conventions (as I
hope to again soon), it seemed to me that there was already too little
time to consider resolutions as fully as I thought made sense.  (I don't
know how well ACB does at that.)
Peace!
Al
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h> From: hheagy@delphi.com
h> Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
h> I am not necessarily saying that term limits would be good for
h> the N.F.B. as there are advantages both ways.  I was merely
h> pointing out that where the U.S. is concerned F.D.R. apparently
h> became powerful enough that unlimited terms was something that
h> was decided to be not in the best interest of the nation.
h> I just think it should be open-mindedly looked at.  There is
h> another change we might consider, and I said, "consider."  I know
h> we don't like to copy anything the A.C.B. does, but their format
h> of a general session in the morning and division meetings in the
h> afternoon may be an idea whose time has come for us.  We are
h> becoming so big that people with varied interests can't possibly
h> get to as many division meetings as they would like to.  Perhaps
h> spreading them out throughout the week would be something that
h> deserves consideration.  True, we would not be getting as much of
h> an overview, but we would be able to get more in depth
h> information about topics of personal interest.  I am not saying

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assistant: I think that term limits are sometimes used to get people out who may not be
popular with a large minoir minority, but not necessarily a majority.  If I
was against someone, I might be in favor of term limits, but if he was great
and doing a good job, then I would be against them.  That isn't the reas on
to have them.
Your raise an interesting point.  Yes, it is impossible to get to all the
division sutff, etc., you would want. but I am not sure what the solution is.
Our greatest strength is as a unified national organization.  We can't do
anything, or should I say, in my opinion we shouldn't do anything, to take
away from our main strength.  The general sessions are important for that
unity and strength and shouldn't be reduced.
David Andrews
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assistant: From: Andy Baracco <Wq6r@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
Hi David. I don't think that Harvey was suggesting that General sessions
be reduced, just spreading them over a larger number of days. Perhaps
starting them on Monday rather than Wednesday.
Andy Baracco
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NF>Hi David. I don't think that Harvey was suggesting that General
NF>sessions be reduced, just spreading them over a larger number
NF>days. Perhaps starting them on Monday rather than Wednesday.

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assistant: From: hheagy@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
On 1997-09-16 NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org said:
of
I was just saying that it is something we could look at.  There
are merits to letting people attend smaller workshop/division
meetings in the afternoon.  We are very large now and have more
divisions than we ever had.  It is impossible for people to
attend the number of them that they probably would like because
of that.
Also, I think the opening session could begin at 9 A.M.
instead of 9-45.  We could get the roll call of states and the
presidential report in during that session provided we budgeted
our time well.  This would clear more time under the current
format.  I am told this is a carry over from the early years when
most people didn't arrive until the opening day and it gave them
time to settle in.  Now that most people do, I think it would
work and would eliminate the potential of beginning sessions
later in the week at 8-30 or 1-30 P.M. which creates logistics
problems with taking care of essentials plus lengthens them for
too long.
Harvey
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assistant: I know what Pete is referring to when he speaks of those meetings that go
until 3 or 4 in the morning.  They are those Amway Dream Week ends.  I have
friends and a sister in that.  I also think that is too long and I would
never go to them because of that.  I don't want to get into a big discussion
of Amway here , because I happen to like their products for the most part,
but that kind of meeting schedule isn't for me.  There is a definite purpose
in mind with those lengthy meetings among which is to keep people out of the
bars and with the 3 hour or so religious service that closes these week ends,
reunions Etc. to more or less force people to attend their brand of religion
and preclude them from attending the church of their choice for by the time
these Amway services end, it is hard to impossible to go to your own church
as those services are usually over by then and you are in a strange town if
you're not a local.
I think the internet idea is a good one, but remember a relative minority of
blind people are on the internet just as sighted people.  It is growing, but
not the majority yet.
I have modified my position on broadcasting the convention sessions to the
hotel rooms.  I think it should be done, but on a pay per day basis.  If
people had to pay $10.00 a day for that privilege which over a week's time
would make it a signifficant expense they would reason that they could save
money by going to the sessions.  If they want to lay, let them pay.
I talked to some friends in the A.C.B. and they had to stop doing it because
at some sessions at some points in time they were getting only 2 to 3 hundred
people.  But that could be a fund raiser for us.
Harvey
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assistant: From: Pete Donahue <pdonahue@texas.net>
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
Hello Richard and listers,
ACtually this wasn't a political meeting at all save for promotion of the
ideas of what America stands for, and the values of the Free Enterprize
System we enjoy in this   country.  Rather the event was packed with
modivational speakers, awards presentations, and entertainment.  WE all
had one heck of a time.
You will be glad to know that upon approval of it's constitution the
National Association of Blind Entrumprenures plans to establish both a
listserv and a World Wide Web Site.  Yes, other divisions should take this
lead so we can work all year long.
Peter Donahue
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Subject: Re: Reply to Richard Webb: Change isn't Bad
Hi Renee. What makes you think that everyone is up at 7 A. M.?  (SMILE)
Andy Baracco
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NF>Richard,  I sure agree with you on this and I feel that we
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assistant: From: hheagy@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Reply to Richard Webb: Change isn't Bad
On 1997-09-17 NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org said:
should
there is a logistics problem when you are dealing with 2 to 3
thousand people.  This is a strain on the food service
facilities, hotels, Etc.  It's not like going to breakfast on a
regular basis.  A lot of people have to be served and get things
done before the sessions.  A start that early would be difficult.
When I lived in Texas, one year we tried an 8-30 start for the
state
convention and a 1-30 start for the afternoon and even there it
didn't work because of people having to get out of the
restaurants, take their dogs out and such.  The devotional
service is optional, the session is more mandatory.  I think that
experiment in Texas was in 1981 or 82 but I'm not sure.
Also, non-session time is the only time when you can have
committee meetings and go to the exhibit hall and so on.  The
exhibit hall is already over crowded because of the limited time
we have during the week except for the first 2 days.  People also
have to work these things and it is hard on them too.  You can
only push people so hard.
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assistant: From: Jennie milburn <jenmilb@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
I am in total agreement with you.  I wish that the division to which I
belong would do something throughout the year.  I would like to see us
doing fundraisers, and having support for each other in that division.  I
have a question totally off this topic?  Is there a way to make it so that
I don't receive my own posts?  Thank you for listening.
Jennie and the Aspen
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NF><NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org> I am in total agreement with you.  I wish
NF>that the division to which I belong would do something throughout
NF>the year.  I would like to see us doing fundraisers, and having
NF>support for each other in that division.  I have a question totally
NF>off this topic?  Is there a way to make it so that I don't receive
NF>my own posts?  Thank you for listening. Jennie and the Aspen
NF>express! jenmilbjenmilb@primenet.com

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assistant: From: David Andrews <dandrews@visi.com>
Subject: Re: Change isn't Bad
A division is only a collection of individuals.  Run for office, or
volunteer to do something to keep things going.
Secondly, receiving a copy of your own post is a system default.  It is not
selectable by the individual user with the software we use.  After many
requests, I changed it to its present state.
David Andrews, List Owner
On 1997-09-17 NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org said:
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Subject: None
Hello Andy, and listers,
I see you forwarding a lot of things from ACb to the NFB listserv.
We're not the acb, and I really have no interest what soever what the
ACB leadership says.  Any positions I take before my congress critters
on this issue wil be guided by what Mr. Gashel has to say, not what
ACB says.  Remember Playboy and some other issues where ACB and us
were working at cross purposes?  I'll take my lead from HJim and the
folks in Baltimore, thanks.
Richard Webb
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