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assistant: From: Daveed Mandell <daveed@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Why the NFB?
Please, don't start calling names or attributing charateristics to people,
just because they may be serious thinkers, and are concerned about
democracy.  You may not be, and that is too bad.
The facts are facts:  Neither the NFB nor the ACB help
helps blind persons; they have never fought for a disability pension in
this country.
That's a fact.  You would do well to push for a democratic NFB!
I guess it's easier relinquishing your freedom to act,
disagree, have full wieght as a thinking, active membership.
And, by the way, my name isn't David.
And, yes, several of us worked in the community re transportation.
No support whatsoever from the two organizaztions of the blind.
Pathetic.
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assistant: From: Rik James <rikjames@mcn.net>
Subject: Why the NFB
What is one blade of grass without the sun?
To what shall it cling without roots?
Shall we share the rain and grow together
and make use of limited time and resource?
Shall we cooperate and make better the world we live in?
Or will we yield to the temptations
that would impoverish the good efforts
by whimpers and whines?
I understand things bother you who need to disparage
on issues withing the leadership of our organization.
But no matter what process you might come up with,
no matter how fair you try to make it, you must admit
that there will be some one or some group that will
find disfavor with it.  We have to live with that
frailty of human nature.  But it is also a gift, too, and
part of what makes creativity such a fine thing.  Weird, huh.
Group harmony is needed in our conventions.  There is so very much to do,
and in my observations, I believe that our process and constitution are
democratic. But big old town hall debates don't usually yield wise policy
making decisions.  But participation on the day to day, hard work in the
preliminary drafting of language, and cooperative, civil engagements are
the best way, I believe, to address the issues within the Federation.
Do you agree?
An airing of ideas on a forum such as NFB-Talk
could be just where the grass seed is planted.
And it is a beautiful spring.  Prepare your soil, and soon
we'll break bread together.
Happy Easter.
Peace.
Rik James
rikjames@mcn.net
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assistant: Denise I wholeheartedly agree.  I've been secretary for the past 6
years of the Sligo Creek Chapter.  I certainly didn't join the nfb for
political reasons.  I joined it as a result of experiencing
discrimination in the mid 70's which railroaded my career as a
musician.  I've been in the nfb for 22 years and I met my wife Tina
through the Nfb of Maryland.  In fact I got engaged to her at the 88
Chicago convention.
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assistant: From: Harvey Heagy <hheagy@delphi.com>
Subject: Re: I most wholeheartedly agree
Whether a person joins the N.F.B. for political reasons or not,
politics is an important part of the movement.  I used to be a lot
more politically involved in the N.F.B. than I am now because for
my part, it is not what the N.F.B. does on the outside that
concerns me as we all know there is discrimination against the
blind and we all would like it solved, but rather it is the
internal politics that concerns me.  Presenting a united front is
one thing, but stifling all criticism in the name of unity is
quite another.
Harvey
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assistant: From: Daveed Mandell <daveed@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Why the NFB
Yes, Harvey you are right.  Your carbon fiber telescopic canes break all
thetime, especialy, the tiny portion at the bottom of the cane.
Do one cares.  They are definitelyt defective, and expensive.
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assistant: From: Harvey Heagy <hheagy@delphi.com>
Subject: Re: Why the NFB
Of course we all have to give up a certain amount of freedom for
the good of all.  Our form of government is not a true democracy
but a republic form of same.
And in the N.F.B. we do indeed elect people to do certain jobs
for us; that's to be expected.  But why is it that those of us
who adopt views different from those of the leadership are
essentially called, "stupid," or are told, " we just don't get
it," and such.
The truth is that those who adopt the national's diverse views
are praised as being intelligent and great thinking people and
those of us who adopt opposing diverse views are put down.
As far as bashing our leaders is concerned, the president, members
of congress, members of the cabinet and others in high profile
positions receive a certain amount of criticism including from
members and leaders of the N.F.B.  A certain amount of criticism
comes with any high profile position, why should our national
leaders be the exception?  If they can't handle it, let them give
up their high profile status or as Harry Truman said, "If you can't
stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
Harvey
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assistant: From: Harvey Heagy <hheagy@delphi.com>
Subject: Re: we blind should love and help each other
I agree with you, but some people just don't get it.  When some
people are confronted with facts they choose to deal with them by
not dealing with them.  When people who love the N.F.B. but don't
happen to like some of the national's behavior some try to avoid
the issue by bringing up other things that have nothing to do
with what is being discussed.  They bring up the good the N.F.B.
has done in order to cloak the bad.  And it seems to be all right
for the national leaders and their supporters to bash us but not
all right for us to even hint at anything they may have done
wrong.
Harvey
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assistant: From: Daveed Mandell <daveed@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Why The NFB
How frightening that only Harvey has the guts to speak out about problems
re the NFB.  It's horrible, and a commentary on what the national
leadership has done to the membership.
Even the late Dr. Isabelle Grant, a marvelous, brilliant human being,
remarked to me, during the 1971 convention in Houston, that the membership
was like a bunch of sheep!
She was right then, and is right now!
Whatever good the NFB does is lost to so many due to its undemocratic
structure, leadership and actions.
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> In a message sojacobson@mmm.com typed to All
>  s> Isn't the impact of your comments here that one really can't trust the
>  s> membership?  On the one hand, you are advocating for greater democracy,
>  s> while on the other you are saying that the membership should not have
>  s> right or power to accept the recommendations of the leadership.
> I think what we are saying is that the convention should have just as
>
> Harvey
>
>

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assistant: From: sojacobson@mmm.com
Subject: Re: Why The NFB
Harvey,
I did not mean to imply that anyone was "against" the national leadership
in my note, I guess that was unclear.  We're getting into a more
theoretical discussion in some ways, and I was trying to figure out if
the problem that Steve Z. was describing was really one of structure, or
if it might be that the leadership has too much influence.  He could
honestly feel that there should be limits on the influence of a leader
without necessarily feeling that leader is wrong.  When I reread my
message, it was not very clear.
the
realistic and reasonable a chance to reject the recommendations of our
leadership as we do to accept them.  We are not anti national leadership; we
support it when we feel it is corre
ct and oppose it when we feel it is wrong, but in recent years the deck has
become too stacked in favor of the national leadership and it is getting
worse all the time.  I wonder if we had electronic voting where each
convention attendee could vote any is
sue up or down what would happen.  I think in such a situation the national
leadership would do well to pass half its agenda.
--
          Steve Jacobson
          National Federation of the Blind
          3M Company
          E-mail:  SOJACOBSON@MMM.COM
The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the 3M Company.
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> I have never attended a Federation event where the membership exerted its
> power.  Never!
> I was always shocked at how meek and mild it behaved, while the leadership
> decided and decreed all policies, practices, and officers.
>
>
>
>
>

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assistant: From: sojacobson@mmm.com
Subject: Re: Why The NFB
I guess you missed the convention during which the unified braille code
was discussed. [grin]
--
          Steve Jacobson
          National Federation of the Blind
          3M Company
          E-mail:  SOJACOBSON@MMM.COM
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>
>
> I guess you missed the convention during which the unified braille code
> was discussed. [grin]
>
>
> > I have never attended a Federation event where the membership exerted its
> > power.  Never!
> > I was always shocked at how meek and mild it behaved, while the
> > decided and decreed all policies, practices, and officers.
> >

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assistant: From: Barbara Freeman <barbie@pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Why The NFB
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 sojacobson@mmm.com wrote:
eadership
Us sheep stood up to the collected leadership as a whole that year and won
and it was not all that hard to do.
Barbara Freeman
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They wrote:
NF>I guess you missed the convention during which the unified
NF>code was discussed. [grin]
NF>> I have never attended a Federation event where the membership
NF>>exerted its  power.  Never!
NF>> I was always shocked at how meek and mild it behaved, while
NF>>leadership  decided and decreed all policies, practices, and
NF>officers. >

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assistant: From: Harvey Heagy <hheagy@delphi.com>
Subject: Re: Why The NFB
On 1998-04-17 NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org said:
braille
the
We need to do that more often.
Harvey
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Subject: Braille Blazer for sale
I have a Braille Blazer for sale. It has been recently serviced. I am
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You may also call 800 396-6326.
Eric
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They wrote:
> > much to teach.  Isn't the essence of the NFB this collective effort to do
> > something about negative attitudes and low expectations?  And maybe, just
> > maybe, the harsh criticism about the way we do things really is nothing
> > more than a mask for complacency with shame and second class status?
> >
> > Jim Marks
> >
> >
> > At 06:22 PM 4/13/1998 -0700, Daveed Mandell wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >How frightening that only Harvey has the guts to speak out about
> > >re the NFB.  It's horrible, and a commentary on what the national
> > >leadership has done to the membership.
> > >Even the late Dr. Isabelle Grant, a marvelous, brilliant human being,
> > >remarked to me, during the 1971 convention in Houston, that the
> > >was like a bunch of sheep!
> > >She was right then, and is right now!
> > >Whatever good the NFB does is lost to so many due to its undemocratic
> > >structure, leadership and actions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> +----------------------------+
> |  Steve Zielinski  (N8UJS)  |
> |      stevez@ripco.com      |
> +----------------------------+
>
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--
          Steve Jacobson
          National Federation of the Blind
          3M Company
          E-mail:  SOJACOBSON@MMM.COM
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I enjoyed the wit and truthfulness of this, and thought others may too.
Cheers,
Jamal
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assistant: From: empower@smart.net
Subject: Re: Why The NFB
 I agree that any organization must strike some balance between
democracy and efficiency.  To get a sense of how much democracy was
sacrificed for the sake of a more efficient resolutions process, I'm
curious how many resolutions have moved forward by obtaining
the requisite number of signatures of resolutions committee
members and/or state affiliate presidents.  It would be interesting to
compare such numbers in an equivalent time period to how many
reached the floor when an individual had a right to bring a
resolution to the membership that was prepared at the beginning of
convention--sometimes after a discussion with fellow Federationists
there that led to the idea.  Of course, other factors may also be
involved, so feel free to broaden the analysis.
Regards,
Jamal
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