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system: You are Sandra Peake, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Trudy Sack about "Tomatoes".

They wrote:
TS> TA> I missed out on Big Boy/Girls, Rutgers, etc. and had to go
TS> TA> with the JetStars)
TS> I planted jet stars this year...as I was late getting a garden started.
TS> I am very disappointed in their taste.  Very mealy texture.  Fall off
TS> the vine before getting red.  I never had a red one on the vine...always
TS> had to finish them off on my counter.  I have so many big tomatoes tho.
TS> They did yield huge fruit, but the taste just wasn't up to snuff.

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assistant: That might be a weather-stress problem, Trudy. It's a tad unfair to
  judge varieties on a single growing season. Especially THIS growing
  season! I haven't talked to a single home gardener who has raised his
  usual bunch of large lovely, insect-free tomatoes this year. Not one!
  This encompasses all types of soil, varieties, and growing methods.
  Something so universal has to be weather related.
  I was dismayed at the amount of slug, mouse and cricket damage to my
  fruits, followed by those little two-tone black beetles that typically
  infest damaged fruit. Especially to Brandywine, that thin-skinned
  excellently flavoured heirloom. I had to pick them green to avoid
  insect damage. The only whole tomatoes I managed to harvest ripe were
  some thick-skinned paste types, like Viva Italia and Crimsonvee. Even
  my longtime favourite Heinz canner, which I have raised for 20 years,
  did more poorly than usual. The funny thing is, they were all mulched,
  which normally gives me decent fruits. Not this year! :-(
  As far as that goes, I find the taste of most very early tomatoes
  unacceptably acid, whereas later ones have much better flavour and
  texture. But even the worst fully ripe homegrown early tomato is
  better than the supermarket green baseballs sold as imported winter
  tomatoes. :-)
                         ...Sandra...
system: You are Thurston Ackerman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Judith Heatwole about "Jet Star up date".

They wrote:
JH>I'm looking for a sweet tomato and a tart tomato; and basically
JH>I'm searching for thin, tender skins. Don't need the commercial
JH>thick-skinned, pasty ones. Got any suggestions?

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assistant: I am old enough to have a soft spot for Rutgers, but Big Boys can
work well also. We grow most of ours now for the noontime salads
(trying to control our weight without great success 8-)
By tart tomatoes I hazard your are looking for cooking types which
generally indicates the Italian plum types. Our family is grown now
so we don't do these any more; but we do miss the glorious aroma
produced during the canning process (and it was a great way to engage
the children in the process to the satisfaction of all 8-).
I am of the opinion that seedings started in our own six packs work
better then those forced sets offered in the markets and hope we
are well enough this spring to start our own again (besides it helps
to dissapate the winter doldrums with the promise of spring soon 8-)
Ciao, Ack.
system: You are Maria Edelhausen, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jim Venedam about "hibiscus - lantana".

They wrote:
JV> I had to think about it for a minute.... When I put the Christmas
JV> lights up, the leaves are still there, so they don't lose their leaves.
JV> Yes. The Lantana lives thru the winter. The branches are quite
JV> woody, so I imagine they'd survive a frost, maybe even a freeze.
JV> These two bushes are becoming a nuisance to me. I have a "hedge"
JV> behind my pool as a screen. There is about 15 feet of Cardinal
JV> Plant which grows to about 6 feet. It has big leaves and loads
JV> of red flowers all summer and fall. (The flowers look something
JV> like salvia). The plants have spread easily from the one plant
JV> my neighbor gave me. They do die off easily in the first frost,
JV> but the roots live and come back in the spring.
JV> frisky to keep neat. Grow every which way. They also seed
JV> themselves everywhere. The flowers interested me when I first
JV> saw them. A flower made up of circles of smaller flowers, all
JV> multicolored.
JV> I have two 1 gallon pots of the orange lantana that I'm going
JV> to plant somewhere at my mothers house. I've seen them in some
JV> commercial plantings. They grow low, and from a distance look
JV> like huge beds of marigolds.

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assistant: Hi, Jim!
On 29 September 1997 Jim Venedam wrote to Maria Edelhausen:
Then I suppose that you have the hibiscus Rosa Sinensis (not hardy) in your
garden, or should it even be the hardy hibiscus Syriacus?
Maybe, because they are really woody that they could have a freeze, but when
I let my lantana in containers outside for a freeze they will die.
Latin name please, suppose it could be  "Erithrina crista gallii" but I'm not
sure.
When I'm right in guessing the Latin name, I can tell you that mine in the
pot is just opening now the third flower of this year, which makes me already
very happy.
Yes in your nice climat those plants are really doing well. Where they all of
the same color? I've here several colors (all in pots) : white, creme, pink,
red and orange. The changing of the colors from red to yellow and then red
again as final color is really wonderful.
Didn't know that there was a real low growing lantana. Don't think it will be
necessary for us here to get that kind of lantana, because cut the plants for
about 5O% when putting them in the greenhouse for the winter. That we do to
save place and because they even loose all their leaves.
Greetings
      Maria
system: You are Leah Rozhon, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Green Peppers".

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assistant: Well, I just pulled out my 12 green pepper plants for the season.  As
some might remember, I experimented with putting matches around the
roots of six of the plants when I planted them in May.
My conclusion is that it made no difference in plant size, size of
peppers, or amount of peppers.  These were California Wonders.
I got plenty, however.  I had all I needed for winter chili and pizza,
and at least one dinner per month of stuffed peppers.  I gave more than
this away to others as well.
I think I'll try it again next year "just because" as my mother-in-law
swore it made a big difference for her.
Did anyone else try it, and if so, what were the results??
Leah
system: You are Alex Vasauskas, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Wl-Ski about "Herb seeds/roots wanted".

They wrote:
w> The root cuttings for Hops that you wish to include in your herb
w> garden are on page 9 of
w> The Comfrey, (tho they list S. asperum, Hidcote Blue) instead of the
w> S. officinalis that you want, sold as plant, on page 13.  However,
w> they also list, as root cuttings,  Russian Broadleaf Comfrey,  (also
w> on page 9).
w> Nichol's Garden Nursery
w> 1190 North Pacific Highway
w> Albany, Oregon 97321-4580
w> (514) 928-9280
w> fax(only) (514)967-8406

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assistant: wl-ski wrote in a message to Alex Vasauskas:
Thank you for the info.  I am surprised that so few people (only
you!) seem to know where to get, and no one seems to have, what the
herb books speak of as being ubiquitous.  Alot of hops is grown
for beer, and there is alot of beer in this country.  The books
talk about Comfrey as being something that anyone should be able
to get from a friendly neighbor (but no one has much of an herb
garden near me).  Weird.
Bests,
Alex
system: You are Wl-Ski, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Alex Vasauskas about "Herb seeds/roots wanted".

They wrote:
AV> wl-ski wrote in a message to Alex Vasauskas:
w>> The root cuttings for Hops... The Comfrey, ... also list,...  Russian
w>> Nichol's Garden Nursery
w>> 1190 North Pacific Highway
w>> Albany, Oregon 97321-4580
w>> (514) 928-9280
w>> fax(only) (514)967-8406
AV> ...m surprised that so few ..., what the herb books speak of as being
AV> Alot of hops is grown for beer, and there is alot of beer in this
AV> talk about Comfrey as being something that anyone should be able to get
AV> friendly neighbor...

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assistant: Broadleaf Comfrey,
... intermittent info, deleted... for space...
ubiquitous.
country.  The books
from a
Alex, I think, at one time, it was true for comfrey, and in many places,
hops, as well.   I have seen other  listings, but am unable to find any at
the moment.  I *will* keep looking, tho.   I know there are producers...
You're right... there *is* alot of beer in this country... and several
'brewers' that I know personally!   <g>
cheers,
wls
system: You are Marilyn Boissoneault, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Maria Edelhausen about "Canning/preserving".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Maria Edelhausen to Marilyn Boissoneault <=-
ME> No that may be right, but then it's warm enough during your winters to
ME> grow still other vegetable in the garden.
ME> Certainly when I was still having a job and was out of the house the
ME> whole day. When coming home I didn't need anymore to clean and cook the
ME> veggies, only warm them up with a good sauce.

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assistant: Yes that is an advantage, I can grow something every month of the
year, so I don't need to have tons of stuff in storage. Actually
I grow cabbage here in the winter.  I have some small ones ready
to plant right now.  I can plant them up through January. It's
the summertime when I can't grow too much.
That's true, when you work all day you don't want to come home
and have to pick your veggies, shell them or whatever and then
cook them!  Just don't have the time!
Marilyn
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system: You are Marilyn Boissoneault, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Sandra Stinson about "hibiscus - lantana".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Sandra Stinson to Marilyn Boissoneault <=-
SS> Herbs, mostly. So far I have sage, rosemary, lemon balm, spearmint,
SS> and  yarrow (the last 3 are still inside-I planted the seeds a month
SS> ago).  I'm about to start some lavender. The main thing I've noticed
SS> about  Florida is that it's extremely wet! So I've got most everything
SS> in pots.  I still have a list a mile long of stuff that I want <g>.

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assistant: I have rosemary, spearmint, wooly applemint, lemon thyme,
oregano, and marjaram.  I have the rosemary in the ground,
everytime I grew one in a pot I killed it, but this one has been
happy in the ground now for several years.  Most of my herbs I
grow in pots though.  I have a Cuban oregano in a pot I just
tried recently, it seems to grow like a weed. It has a nice
variegated leaves and smells very good.....well good if you like
pizza and spaghetti. <G>  Good luck with your lavender. I've
never tried it but I understand it doesn't like Florida weather
real well.  Are you new to Florida Gardening?
Marilyn
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system: You are Trudy Sack, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Sandra Peake about "Tomatoes".

They wrote:
-=> Quoting Sandra Peake to Trudy Sack <=-
SP> That might be a weather-stress problem, Trudy. It's a tad unfair to
SP> judge varieties on a single growing season. Especially THIS growing
SP> season! I haven't talked to a single home gardener who has raised
SP> The funny thing is,
SP> they were all mulched, which normally gives me decent fruits. Not
SP> this year! :-(
SP> But even the worst fully ripe homegrown early tomato is
SP> better than the supermarket green baseballs sold as imported winter
SP> tomatoes. :-)

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assistant: Oh, I didn't realise that others were having problems this year.  I
 assumed it was because I was late getting them into the ground.  Why
 was this year so awful for tomatoes?
 My cucmbers did excellent this summer....as did my peppers.
 I didn't get around to mulching my tomatoes.  Would you say that helps
 to keep the dry soil problem down?  Or are there other reasons to mulch?
 Oh, I whole heartily agree.  Even tho I'm complaining, my neighbors, who
 enjoyed the same tomatoes said they were delicious.  Only I, who have
 had many planting seasons behind me, know the difference.  :) Trudy
system: You are Sandra Peake, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Alex Vasauskas about "Herb seeds/roots wanted".

They wrote:
W> AV> I am starting an herb garden
W>The root cuttings for Hops that you wish to include in your herb garden are
W>on page 9 of
W>The Comfrey, (tho they list S. asperum, Hidcote Blue) instead of the S.
W>officinalis that you want, sold as plant, on page 13.  However, they also
W>list, as root cuttings,  Russian Broadleaf Comfrey,  (also on page 9).

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assistant: Hi Alex, I snipped your request out of Wl-ski's reply. My sister just
   brought me a 6-qt basket of hop flowers, and mentioned that she is
   tearing out her vine. Startled, I enquired why. It seems hops is an
   exhuberant grower, and hers is becoming a pest.
   And I consider comfrey just about as bad. Any cultivation near it
   is risky, as even a leaf portion landing on damp soil can sprout. A
   tiny portion of root will send up a leaf by mid-summer, and next year
   you have a full-blown tenacious plant that requires deep digging to
   remove. (And don't leave any!)  I have a full row to dig...or at
   least, my hubby does. And half a job will mean we're right back at
   Square One.
   Sis thinks hops is almost as bad as comfrey. :-)
                      ...Sandra...
system: You are Sandra Peake, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Maria Edelhausen about "WELCOME!!!!!!!!".

They wrote:
ME>That's it Sandra! Thanks for your reaction, mine has in the meantime also
ME>reached you I think.
ME>Do you mean the state Georgia by saying 'Georgian Bay'?

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assistant: No, Maria. Georgian Bay is in Ontario, Canada. It is a very large bay
  that forms a significant portion of Lake Huron, one of the Great
  Lakes. And the moderating effect of all that water means that directly
  around the lake , species of wild plants flourish that find it too
  cold further inland.
                       ...Sandra...
system: You are Kachina, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Trudy Sack about "Tomatoes inside?".

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assistant: My tomatoes got off to a late start this summer. I had a nice patio
tomato that gave me some grape-sized fruits, and I took the very
first ripe one and planted those seeds.
I now have about four 5 inch plants from that. I brought them indoors
just recently and put them up into a south-facing window. One almost
immediately dropped its leaves and the stem started drying up.
I also brought in two full-sized plants. The tallest is beside a
door, near to an east-facing window, the shortest of the two is in
the same south-facing window. Now, the tallest, which recieves the
least light, is looking about normal, but the one in the south
facing window has also had its leaves start to shrivel.
Does anyone know if this a bug thing, a light thing, a temperature
thing, or if it is even possible to finish the growing season of
tomatoes indoors?
... ......
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system: You are Doris Dignard, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Leah Rozhon about "Green Peppers".

They wrote:
LR>I think I'll try it again next year "just because" as my mother-in-law
>swore it made a big difference for her.
LR>Did anyone else try it, and if so, what were the results??

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assistant: No, I didn't try it because I didn't believe that it would make a
difference.  I'm glad that you tried it though, and let us know what
happened.
                           Doris Dignard
                      dorisdignard@better.net
                    doris.dignard@capcanada.com
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system: You are Alex Vasauskas, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Sandra Peake about "Herb seeds/roots wanted".

They wrote:
SP>    Hi Alex, I snipped your request out of Wl-ski's reply. My sister
SP> just    brought me a 6-qt basket of hop flowers, and mentioned that
SP> she is    tearing out her vine. Startled, I enquired why. It seems
SP> hops is an    exhuberant grower, and hers is becoming a pest.
SP>    And I consider comfrey just about as bad. Any cultivation near
SP> it    is risky, as even a leaf portion landing on damp soil can
SP> sprout. A    tiny portion of root will send up a leaf by
SP> mid-summer, and next year    you have a full-blown tenacious plant
SP> that requires deep digging to    remove. (And don't leave any!)  I
SP> have a full row to dig...or at    least, my hubby does. And half a
SP> job will mean we're right back at    Square One.

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assistant: Sandra Peake wrote in a message to Alex Vasauskas:
Hello Sandra --
One person's trash can be another's treasure, eh ;-)
I know what you mean by the digging involved in getting rid of such
tenacious and prolific plants because I spent quite a few long days
digging and screening from my future garden a weed that is called
"quack grass" here.  It's an inexorable monster -- if you dig it
under or chop it up it only multiplies.
My herb books confirm what you say, and I am hoping that when I find
my seeds or stock that all of this will be true.  I have prepared the
garden sections for these with underground barriers so that they
won't invade anything outside of their designated turf.  Hopefully
they will be hardy enough in our Zone 3 climate.  But, it won't be
a disaster if they aren't since I intend to use them as herbs.
Do you think that we might arrange a sale of hop seeds from your
sister (if she had both male and female plants together) and your
comfrey seeds or roots?  I am willing to pay a reasonable price plus
shipping.  If you are willing to try this, we can talk further
by email.  My addresses are:
Internet:   Alex_Vasauskas@who.lsd.bungi.com
Fidonet:    1:17/75
Bests,
Alex
system: You are Wl-Ski, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Trudy Sack about "Tomatoes".

They wrote:
TS> ... to keep the dry soil problem down?  Or are there other reasons to

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assistant: ***much very informative tomato info.***
mulch?
Yes, there are, Trudy.  Diseases!  They are kept down, (and in many cases,
*away*!  :)  if you keep the dirt off the leaves, which mulch will do!
cheers,
wls
system: You are Wl-Ski, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Sandra Peake about "Herb seeds/roots wanted".

They wrote:
SP>    ...It seems hops is an exhuberant grower, and hers is becoming a
SP>    And I consider comfrey just about as bad.
SP>  ... even a leaf portion landing on damp soil can sprout.
SP>  * QMPro 1.52 * Of people born in 1839, 100% of carrot eaters are dead.

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assistant: st.
I have a difficult time believing it would become a pest here, but I could be
wrong, so I'll
let you know, just as soon as I can get some started, here in Oklahoma.  I
don't know of
anyone who has ever tried it here, (it might be because they don't want to
experience the frightening irradication *again*!   :)
I can tell you this isn't the case in Oklahoma.  I only  know of a few places
it grows, and
I haven't heard *anyone* complain about it's invasiveness...  I have to get
some of this,
as well!  My invitation to have some starts left with the lady that was going
to make sure
 I got some   :)
Well, this has got to be the reason that it doesn't become a problem, here,
in Oklahoma... we don't have much "damp soil"!   <g>  Well, it doesn't stay
"damp" for very long, at least...
cheers,
wls
Whew, am I glad I wasn't born in *that* year!  :)
system: You are Wl-Ski, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home & Garden message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kachina about "Tomatoes inside?".

They wrote:
K> ... I brought them indoors just recently and put them up into a
K> One almost immediately dropped its leaves ...
K> Does anyone know if this a bug thing, a light thing, a temperature thing,
K> even possible to finish the growing season of tomatoes indoors?

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assistant: south-facing window.
I'm not surprised...   :)
or if it is
Without actually seeing it, it is alittle difficult to tell, but my first
guess would be, 'all of the above'.
If you didn't harden them off, this is the problem.  As there is hardly
*ever* enough light in (most) houses, this is (additionally) the problem.
What the temp. *was*  is vastly different than what the temp. *is* inside (in
most houses),  and the other (and possibly *most* important) problem is the
likely-hood of spider mite.  They love tomatoes, and it is very difficult not
to bring them in, so take the time to inspect them... and if you find
anything that leaves you to suspect that is might be *another* part of the
problem, *then* take the time to inspect all the *rest* of your plants...
they probably have them too, now.  It isn't an impossible thing, but most
tomato varieties need the conditions of a greenhouse, to bear, inside.
Once again, I'm not suggesting that it can't be done.  But, it isn't like
growing basil on your window-sill.
cheers,
wls