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They wrote:
> Jim,
>
> The criticism in this thread does not have anything to do with the
> empowering nature of the nfb philosophy.  Many, myself included, view that
> philosophy as a valid means of dealing with the social aspects of
> blindness, lack of understanding from people, discrimination, etc.  I have
> absolutely no problem with the general empowering philosophy of blindness
> which the NFB promotes.  I feel it is the only way to fly.  Some may take
> the philosophy a little over board in my opinion, but as long as they
> don't include general rudeness towards others, sighted or blind, then
> that's fine with me.  In fact I've found that most of the competent blind
> people I know have been touched positively by NFB philosophy.
>
>       The problem is in the political structure of the NFB itself.  The
> lack of meaningful input is evident to those who would only observe.  The
> reason that so many do not see it is in part because they agree with the
> political structure and therefore don't see the need to challenge it
> directly.  An example.
>
>       After an attempt was made to get the membership to have an
> opportunity to vote on re instating Jamal Mazrui into the organization
> after he was expelled by means of having the general membership have a
> chance to vote on it, the National Board blocked the opportunity for the
> membership to vote.  After that occured, the NFB constitution was changed
> so that it would take four or five state presidents and/or national board
> members to sign off on any members request to take a similar issue to the
> board.  That additional hurdle to have a chance for the common member to
> have a vote is the kind of political games which offend many.  And of
> course, the general membership approved the changes, thereby tightening
> the national boards power over the membership politically.
>
>       I think for many in the NFB, the organization is similar to a
> religious experience, where they feel they finally belong.  The group
>  cannot do any wrong, and if it could be considered that it may have made
>  a mistake, it is viewed as only marginal and isolated.  With this
> attitude there is no desire or need to analyse and examine what is really
> happening, that would turn over the boat and open up lines of attact from
> the "enemies outside".  As long as this kind of "close the circle" belief
> system exists in the NFB, the basic lack of meaningful political
> involvement will continue.  There are those in the NFB who basically talk
> among themselves about internal political structure but don't step up to
> the plate to try and make a change.  I think part of the reason for lack
> of attempting to make a change is the knowledge that it is a very hard
> road to take, fraught with lots of obsticles.  One of the greatest
> obsticles is the memberships lack of understanding and possibility of
> turning on them personally.
>
>       Have a nice day.
>
>
> On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Jim Marks wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Montanans are an independent lot.  We take rugged individualism to
> > extremes, and view national organizations with mulish skepticism.
> >
> > As a committed Federationist, I have encountered much resistance to our
> > organization from other Montanans.  Presumably the reluctance to
> > cooperating with national authorities stems from the cowboy
> > for which our state is so infamous.  But I don't think we can blame the
> > independence streak for anti-NFB rhetoric.  I believe the opposition to
> > NFB comes as a direct result of people's relationship with blindness.
> > organization, imperfect as it is, unquestionably challenges everyone's
> > understanding of blindness.  Many are comfortable with attributing
> > blindness as the problem rather than grasping that attitudes are the real
> > oppressor.  Time and time again I have witnessed people react negatively
> > the NFB because the leadership presses hard for positive attitudes,
> > personal accountability, and self-determination.  As a friend of mine who
> > just attended his first convention last year said, the NFB raises the
> > It develops our own self-awareness and changes what it means to be blind.
> > Some react well by getting more involved and trying to shape our
> > organization through the involvement.  Others elect to criticize the way
> > things are done without contributing to the movement in meaningful ways.
> > Some even stoop to really silly name calling and baiting.  But as for me,
> > am very glad to be a Federationist.  And if such affirmations make me
> > like a mindless follower, think again.  I am a Montanan and am skeptical
> > hell of anything that looks too good to be true.  I am involved because
> > the principles and because I get a direct infusion of ever increasing
> > expectations for myself.  No, we're not a bunch of super blind folk; we
> > just doing the best we can.  I, for one, have much to learn.  And I have
> > much to teach.  Isn't the essence of the NFB this collective effort to do
> > something about negative attitudes and low expectations?  And maybe, just
> > maybe, the harsh criticism about the way we do things really is nothing
> > more than a mask for complacency with shame and second class status?
> >
> > Jim Marks
> >
> >
> > At 06:22 PM 4/13/1998 -0700, Daveed Mandell wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >How frightening that only Harvey has the guts to speak out about
> > >re the NFB.  It's horrible, and a commentary on what the national
> > >leadership has done to the membership.
> > >Even the late Dr. Isabelle Grant, a marvelous, brilliant human being,
> > >remarked to me, during the 1971 convention in Houston, that the
> > >was like a bunch of sheep!
> > >She was right then, and is right now!
> > >Whatever good the NFB does is lost to so many due to its undemocratic
> > >structure, leadership and actions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> +----------------------------+
> |  Steve Zielinski  (N8UJS)  |
> |      stevez@ripco.com      |
> +----------------------------+
>
>
>

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assistant: From: sojacobson@mmm.com
Subject: Re: Why The NFB
Steve,
Isn't the impact of your comments here that one really can't trust the
membership?  On the one hand, you are advocating for greater democracy,
while on the other you are saying that the membership should not have the
right or power to accept the recommendations of the leadership.  Unless I
am not understanding your point, I think it is the influence of the
leadership that makes you uncomfortable, not the political structure.
I'm not trying to be critical of that, only saying that it changes the
focus of discussion.
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          Steve Jacobson
          National Federation of the Blind
          3M Company
          E-mail:  SOJACOBSON@MMM.COM
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