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They wrote:
>As told by Frater Robert Anton Wilson; Holy Discordian, OTO
>Initiate and CAW Water Brother in his Outstanding Masterpiece of
>Speculative Illumination "Cosmic Trigger."  Recalling Crowleymas
>(October 12) 1974, Brother Wilson hath eloquently stated:
>On the way, we spotted Hymenaeus
>Alpha (Grady McMurty), Caliph of the Ordo Templi Orientis, and
>his wife, Phylis.
>I asked Grady McMurty if Aleister Crowley had ever said anything
>to him implying the extraterrestrial theory which Kenneth Grant,
>Outer Head of another Ordo Templi Orientis, implies in his
>accounts of Crowley's contacts with Higher Intelligences.
>"Some of the things Aleister said to me," Grady replied
>carefully, "could be interpreted as hints pointing that way."
>He went on to quote Crowley's aphorisms about various of the
>standard entities contacted by Magick.  The Abramelin spirits,
>for instance, need to be watched carefully.  "They bite,"
>Aleister explained in his best deadpan am-I-kidding-or-not?
>style.  The Enochian "angels," on the other hand, don't always
>have to be summoned.  "When you're ready, they come for you,"
>Aleister said flatly.
>both by a most scrupulous historian,
>Dr. Francis Yates, Dee was almost certainly a prime mover in
>the "Illuminati" and "Rosicrucian Brotherhoods" of that time,
>Grady McMurty-Caliph of the Ordo Templi Orientis said, in effect,
>that the theory of higher dimensions made more sense to him than
>the extraterrestrial theory in terms of actual space ships entering
>our biosphere.
>Grady McMurty nodded vigorously.  "That's the $64,000 question,"
>he said emphatically.  "For years I've been asking Phylis and
>everybody else I know: why does the gnosis always get busted?
>Every single time the energy is raised and large-scale group
>illuminations are occurring, the local branch of the Inquisition
>kills it dead.  Why, why, why?"

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assistant: From: "Bill Heidrick" <heidrick@well.com>
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Original Date: 2 Oct 1996 02:19:04 GMT
density4@cts.com (Blue Resonant Human) writes:
Although he is a friendly sort, Robert A. Wilson never joined or received
membership in OTO.  He had a fancy certificate on his wall, when he
lived on Claremont Ave. in Berkeley, but that was a not for real.
Right, the above information regarding Bob's not being a member was
confirmed by Grady back in the late 70's.
Of course, I can't speak for Kenneth, but he was expelled from O.T.O.
in 1955 e.v. -- so it's mutual.
Yep, different time, different metaphor.  One can always reinterpret
the metaphor, but that would not necessarily be recognizable to
the first to express it.
That would be a little difficult, since the Illuminati didn't exist until
almost two centuries after John Dee's death.  The Rosicrucian matter is
possible, but was not publicised until Dee was pretty much committed to
other things.  Possibly precursors are involved.
Interesting that Grady used to hang out in LA with Ray Bradbury and other
notable SF pioneers -- yet he had this view.
:^)  One of Grady's favorite lines.
93 93/93
Bill Heidrick