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system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to James Bradley about "Sitar midi file".

They wrote:
GJ> I don't think you have quite grasped the midi concept.
JB> I'm not sure you grasped the spirit of the question, Graeme.
JB> The user wanted to find a MIDI file written specifically for a
JB> sitar.
JB> I'm sure there are files written to exploit those, but like
JB> you, I've never heard of one
GJ> Come to think of it, I don't ever recall seeing a sitar patch
GJ> on *any* synth - although I am sure someone will write and
GJ> tell me otherwise <bg>.
JB> Granted, for a realistic sitar sound, there should be more
JB> than one sample of the instrument.
JB> I suppose the authors didn't anticipate much call for that
JB> sort of thing.
JB> On the pitch bending and vibrato issue, as with any MIDI file,
JB> you get out of it what you put into it
JB> I predict with COSM synth engines, the issue of sound
JB> quality/quantity of samples will blur

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assistant: Ho James, How're you doin'?
On 08-Feb-98 at 09:26:10, James Bradley wrote to Graeme Jaye about
Sitar midi file
Maybe not <g>.
I realised that - but I have still never seen one.
At least I'm not alone there.
And they did.  It has been pointed out to me that there is a sitar
patch in the GM spec.  I have to say, mine sounds absolutely
*nothing* like a sitar <bg>.
I think that is the least of the problem.
Not too many sitar players in the land of the rising sun, of course.
The point I was trying to mak was that a considerable amount oof
work would need to be done in thse areas for a realistic imitation
of the true sound was likely to be attained.  Because of the
variations in midi kit, anything that might sound OK on the authors
setup xould still sound like a pile of s**t on someone elses.
I think the general standards of S+S synths have already reached a
stage where the *quality* is acceptable to many.  However, there
still remains the question of the *use* of the sound.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Chris Armstrong about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
DS> I need to be able to send CD-quality music to software
DS> companies, and as we all know, audio tape isn't quite cut out
DS> for it.
CA> Have you ever heard of hard disk recording?

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assistant: Ho Chris, How're you doin'?
On 10-Feb-98 at 21:48:00, Chris Armstrong wrote to Darryl Sloan
about Digital recording
I'm sure he has - but it's a non-starter for this application.
Darryl needs something that can be played by any A+R department,
without them having to scout around for something on which to play
it!
That leaves him (for all practical purposes) with acetates,
cassette, DAT and CD.  Of these, CD is the most preferable for the
reasons I outlined in my message to him.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Darryl Sloan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Re: Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> Summing up - go for CD.  IMO, your best option.

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assistant: On 07 Feb 98 Graeme Jaye wrote to me:
It certainly seems that way. Thanks for the advice.
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system: You are Darryl Sloan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tim Blair about "Re: Digital recording".

They wrote:
TB> Hi Darryl
TB> The easiest/cheapest way nowadays is to use CDR. Either in a wav format
TB> on data disk or as a normal music cd (playable on any std cd player).
TB> Having a good full duplex soundcard makes things MUCH easier (forget
TB> AWE/SB's) What software and sound gear are you using?

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assistant: On 08 Feb 98 Tim Blair wrote to me:
Yep, this will likely be the option I go for.
[direct to disk recording]
Hardware: Yamaha MU-10 sound module, running on an Amiga 1200 (no laughing
now!).
Software: SoundStudio (excellent prog). Also dabbled with Bars&Pipes.
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system: You are Sunny Khurana, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Sitar midi file".

They wrote:
GJ> Come to think of it, I don't ever recall seeing a sitar patch on
GJ> *any* synth
GJ> otherwise <bg>.

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assistant: Hi Graeme,
 This is strange, coz sitar is a GM instrument.
   - although I am sure someone will write and tell me
 You should be an astrologer :)
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system: You are Yannick Boucher, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
YB> actually, I didn't know DCC was still an option... I have yet
YB> to see one! (really!))
GJ> Not a lot of people have <bg>.
GJ> Nice idea but too late in the market to be of commercial value.

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assistant: Hmmm... reminds me of a little disc...  :-)
     But seriously, I think MD is not a bad option at all... the
     Sony MDM-X4 looks pretty nice...
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system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Darryl Sloan about "Re: Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> Summing up - go for CD.
DS> It certainly seems that way. Thanks for the advice.

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assistant: Ho Darryl, How're you doin'?
On 15-Feb-98 at 13:23:07, Darryl Sloan wrote to Graeme Jaye about
Re: Digital recording
You're welcome.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Darryl Sloan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Chris Armstrong about "Re: Digital recording".

They wrote:
CA> Have you ever heard of hard disk recording?
CA> All you have to have is a big hard drive and a good processor.  A
CA> couple gig   and a P166 at the least.

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assistant: On 10 Feb 98 Chris Armstrong wrote to me:
Yes, this is an option I am considering.
I have an Amiga 1200 with an 8-bit sampler. To make this work, I'll need to
get hold of a 16-bit sampler for stereo sound, some direct-to-hard-disk
sampling software, and a Zip drive for storing away the WAVs and submitting
them to companies. Could work, if I can get the gear.
CD-recording is the other strong option I have in mind. There seems to be
benefits with both.
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system: You are Tim Blair, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Darryl Sloan about "Re: Digital recording".

They wrote:
TB> Having a good full duplex soundcard makes things MUCH easier (forget
TB> AWE/SB's) What software and sound gear are you using?
DS>
DS> Hardware: Yamaha MU-10 sound module, running on an Amiga 1200 (no
DS> laughing now!).
DS> Software: SoundStudio (excellent prog). Also dabbled with Bars&Pipes.
(>�6 instead of the �1.20 ones you could use in a PC/Mac's internal CDR

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assistant: on 15 Feb 98  13:26:23 Darryl Sloan and Tim Blair were talking about
<Re: Digital recording>
I wouldn't dare. Atari's n Amiga's can be better for MIDI timing than PC/Macs
and MU10s XG MIDI sounds great (got an SW60XG in my PC).
It's been a while since I used an Amiga, but I think you may have problems
with HDR. IIRC Amigas audio I/O isn't to hot and unless you have a good size
hard drive your going to have problems. Philips do a stand alone CD recorder
but this costs about �500 and, I think, uses expensive "consumer" CDR blanks
drive) There's also DCC tapes. The decks and tapes are cheap (�150), but it's
unlikly that any one else would have one of these so its no good for
distibution.
You can get a damn good PC for less than a grand and there's loads of cheap
CDR drives, duplex soundcards and some great free music software on the web.
So in the long term this may be the best way to go. Good luck.
              Cheers ________
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                       /im Blair
system: You are Tim Blair, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Re: Yamaha MU-10 query".

They wrote:
GJ> I *keep* telling people to buy a cheap module rather than an
GJ> expensive soundcard - falls on deaf ears mostly, sad to say.

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assistant: on 12 Feb 98  16:55:05 Graeme Jaye and Darryl Sloan were talking about
<Re: Yamaha MU-10 query>
Hi Graeme,
I can see your point to some extent as most sound cards have analog outs and
so can give noise problems. But an external module will always cost more for
the same spec and I personaly like "Big screen" editing rather than fiddling
about with a 2 line LED and multi function buttons. Obviously, Some external
knobs/keys/sliders are VERY handy for recording but over all I think there's
a lot to be said for internal kit. ie....
Yamaha's new AWESOME SW1000XG PCI soundcard.
Multi I/O, inc SPDIF digital, so no noise.
MU100 synth. plus multi effect on synth and Audio I/O.
Socket for VL (vertual synthesis) add on card.
MIDI, 1 in 1 out.
DX5 compatable drivers, so you can use it for Quake 8-)
ASIO drivers for Cubase.
How much? RRP �399UKP and �100UKP for the VL add on !!!!
To have close to that with External gear would cost more than double. And
thats ignoring the multi I/O PCI HDR.......
And then there's Yam's STUNNING "DSP farm" PCI card.
O2R digital mixer + 2x REV500 effects units + Multi Dig & Ana I/O HDR + full
VST/LA/CW integration and automation.
How much? RRP �899UKP + �399UKP for Multi I/O expantions (O2R =
~�6000UKP/REV500 ~�400UKP each)
And these are RRP's that will drop a good 25% in the first 6 months. Guess
which I'd buy 8-)
              Cheers ________
                        /
                       /im Blair
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Darryl Sloan about "Re: Digital recording".

They wrote:
DS> On 10 Feb 98 Chris Armstrong wrote to me:
CA> Have you ever heard of hard disk recording?
DS> Yes, this is an option I am considering.

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assistant: Ho Darryl, How're you doin'?
On 17-Feb-98 at 14:43:23, Darryl Sloan wrote to Chris Armstrong
about Re: Digital recording
AIUI, you wanted something which could be played by any A&R dept or
whatever.  A hard disk recorder might be useful for mastering your
material but it will be next to useless as a distribution medium.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Sunny Khurana about "Sitar midi file".

They wrote:
GJ> Come to think of it, I don't ever recall seeing a sitar patch
GJ> on *any* synth
SK> This is strange, coz sitar is a GM instrument.
SK> You should be an astrologer :)

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assistant: * Replying to a message in : SAVEAREA
Ho Sunny, How're you doin'?
On 16-Feb-98 at 00:57:04, Sunny Khurana wrote to Graeme Jaye about
Sitar midi file
So I now realise.  I usually choose my pathches on the basis of 'do
they sound right for this piece' and pay little attention to what
they are actually *called*.
Needless to say, a number of people have pointed out that 'Sitar' is
a standard GM patch - I can only say - in my defence -  that it
sounds nothing like one!
They get it wrong most of the time.  Oh!  I see what you mean <g>.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tim Blair about "Re: Yamaha MU-10 query".

They wrote:
TB> on 12 Feb 98  16:55:05 Graeme Jaye and Darryl Sloan were
TB> talking about <Re: Yamaha MU-10 query>
GJ> I *keep* telling people to buy a cheap module rather than an
GJ> expensive soundcard - falls on deaf ears mostly, sad to say.
TB> I can see your point to some extent as most sound cards have
TB> analog outs and so can give noise problems. But an external
TB> module will always cost more for the same spec and I personaly
TB> like "Big screen" editing rather than fiddling about with a 2
TB> line LED and multi function buttons.
TB> Yamaha's new AWESOME SW1000XG PCI soundcard.
TB> How much? RRP !399UKP and !100UKP for the VL add on !!!!

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assistant: Ho Tim, How're you doin'?
On 21-Feb-98 at 02:11:36, Tim Blair wrote to Graeme Jaye about Re:
Yamaha MU-10 query
I was referring, in the main, to people either just getting into
midi - not the more advanced users - or those (like me <bg>) who
just like to play around at minimal expense.
As an example of what I meant take my own (very simple) setup.  I
have a Yamaha Sound Edge GM card, but this is only used for
providing the midi in/out connections.  Hung on the end of that is a
Roland SC-7 GM module which cost me 89 quid (new).  The sounds from
this module, compared to the Yamaha (which cost about the same
amount, AIR) are like the difference between chalk and cheese - plus
the Roland also supports chorus and reverb!
AFAIK, the supplies of the Roland module have now dried up but the
Casio (GZ-50?) is still available for even less money - around 50
quid when I last heard - and it is a very similar device.
A different league, I feel <bg>.  But I wouldn't mind betting that a
careful perusal of adverts for 'discontinued' models would reveal an
external module with a similar spec.
The use of external modules means a lot less mucking around with the
innards of the computer as well.  This can be a major advantage to
those more interested in music than the technology <bg>.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Yannick Boucher about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> Nice idea but too late in the market to be of commercial
GJ> value.
YB> Hmmm... reminds me of a little disc...  :-)
YB> But seriously, I think MD is not a bad option at all... the
YB> Sony MDM-X4 looks pretty nice...

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assistant: Ho Yannick, How're you doin'?
On 19-Feb-98 at 00:41:38, Yannick Boucher wrote to Graeme Jaye
about Digital recording
That too ...
The main problems with both DCC and MD is that 1/ they are not
exactly in universal use and 2/ they both use compression algorithms
to squeeze the data on to the media - not really a smart thing where
audio is concerned.
With the wide acceptance of ordinary CD's, both in music systems and
computers, means you are unlikely to give something to someone they
can't play.
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England
system: You are Darryl Sloan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Re: Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> A hard disk recorder might be useful for mastering your
GJ> material but it will be next to useless as a distribution medium.

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assistant: On 20 Feb 98 Graeme Jaye wrote to me:
Not necessarily. It's the videogame scene I'm into for music, so I could
record music to HD as WAVE files, then copy them to Zip disk for
distribution, and I would expect the software companies to have a PC at their
end. Though I suppose a Zip drive could be absent, yeah.
To be honest, I've decided not to go for this option anyway, as I discovered
my Amiga is only capable of of handling 8-bit samples. I really need 16-bit
for CD-quality. So I'm jettisoning this option.
The only thing I fear is this whole DVD business. I don't want to purchase a
CD-writer, only to discover that it is obselete in two years.
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system: You are Darryl Sloan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tim Blair about "Re: Digital recording".

They wrote:
TB> It's been a while since I used an Amiga, but I think you may have
TB> problems with HDR. IIRC Amigas audio I/O isn't to hot and unless you
TB> have a good size hard drive your going to have problems.
TB> Philips do a
TB> stand alone CD recorder but this costs about �500 and, I think, uses
TB> expensive "consumer" CDR blanks
TB> You can get a damn good PC for less than a grand and there's loads of
TB> cheap CDR drives, duplex soundcards and some great free music software
TB> on the web. So in the long term this may be the best way to go. Good
TB> luck.

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assistant: On 21 Feb 98 Tim Blair wrote to me:
Yeah, I've only got a 200MB HD. I was thinking more of sampling direct to Zip
disk. However, I've now also heard that the Amiga can only sample 8-bit
audio. Big problem. I need 16-bit for CD-quality.
This is the very model I'm thinking about.
Yeah, I'll probably make the transition to PC someday. Still need the Amiga
for certain things.
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system: You are Rich Lockyer, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Darryl Sloan about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
DS> The only thing I fear is this whole DVD business. I don't want to
DS> a CD-writer, only to discover that it is obselete in two years.

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assistant: Hello Darryl!
On 23 Feb 98, Darryl Sloan wrote to Graeme Jaye:
purchase
I wouldn't worry about something that'll be obsolete in two years... that's a
given as fast as technology is advancing.  What I worry about is the item
that's obsolete by the time I take it out of the box.
C-ya! Rich
system: You are Gerry Clark, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Graeme Jaye about "Digital recording".

They wrote:
YB>> But seriously, I think MD is not a bad option at all... the
YB>> Sony MDM-X4 looks pretty nice...
GJ> The main problems with both DCC and MD is that 1/ they are not
GJ> exactly in universal use and 2/ they both use compression algorithms
GJ> to squeeze the data on to the media - not really a smart thing where
GJ> audio is concerned.
-=> Yours sincerely, Gerry Clark <=-

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assistant: Hi Graeme, how's things?
23-Feb-98 16:57:14, Graeme Jaye wrote to Yannick Boucher
          Subject: Digital recording
 I've been using a Mini Disk for over a year now and I've found it to be
 a really useful piece of kit both for domestic use and public performance.
 The compression isn't obtrusive or obvious, even when playing at volume
 through a large PA.
 The greatest advantage for me though is the instantaneous response.
 I work a lot in theatre and the Mini Disk is absolutely ideal for
 providing sound effects or backing music where split-second timing is
 essential.  No other medium comes close - both DAT and DCC both suffer
 because of the lag between hitting "play" and hearing the sound and also
 because of rewind times (no such thing with Mini Disk).
 Other advantages are that MD is a rewritable format and playlists can
 easily be altered in seconds - ideal for last minute changes or onstage
 cock-ups.
 I would urge people to buy one.  Any drop in audio quality due to the
 compression algorithms is negligable compared to the practical benefits.
system: You are Graeme Jaye, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Midi-Net message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Darryl Sloan about "Re: Digital recording".

They wrote:
GJ> A hard disk recorder might be useful for mastering your
GJ> material but it will be next to useless as a distribution
GJ> medium.
DS> Not necessarily. It's the videogame scene I'm into for music,
DS> so I could record music to HD as WAVE files, then copy them to
DS> Zip disk for distribution, and I would expect the software
DS> companies to have a PC at their end.
DS> Though I suppose a Zip drive could be absent, yeah
DS> I really need 16-bit for CD-quality.
DS> So I'm jettisoning this option
DS> The only thing I fear is this whole DVD business. I don't want
DS> to purchase a CD-writer, only to discover that it is obselete
DS> in two years

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assistant: Ho Darryl, How're you doin'?
On 23-Feb-98 at 11:31:58, Darryl Sloan wrote to Graeme Jaye about
Re: Digital recording
Fair comment.  I had assumed you were working on music for another
type of company.  You're right, of course, software companies would
have the right kit for this.
That might prove a bit of a stumbling block, I agree.
You certainly do.
Back to the CD then <g>.
Quite honestly, can you think of *anything* in this business
which won't be at least obsolescent in two years time?  I'm
damned if I can!
IKWYM but I would take heart in the fact that DVD *is* a new
technology and will take some time to settle down and it will take
even longer before the price drops to something approaching
reasonable.  Also, the amount of space available is way over the top
for music files, really.  It's of far more use to the video guys.
Furthermore, it will be a long time (if ever) before the DVD becomes
a part of a typical domestic system.
CD writers are not so expensive now and the disks have really
plummeted in price - I'd go for it, IIWY
Keep 'em comin'
Graeme in Dover, England