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system: You are Ken Stuckas, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Mary Beth Parisi about "cravings???".

They wrote:
-=>cravings??? must be true.  I heard it from Mary Beth Parisi.
MBP> I've written in here a few times but haven't gotten many responses
MBP> back...right now this is me putting my hand out to others in the
MBP> program for suggestions/help...I have a little over 3 1/2 yrs
MBP> sober...not really important but a fact that may help...I am about to
MBP> graduate college and am under alot of stress...I'm meditating, doing
MBP> alot of meetings, talking with my sponsor and others everyday...but
MBP> when the stress gets high I taste scotch...this is scaring the heck out
MBP> of me...no one seems to be able to understand this or has ever gone
MBP> through it...can anyone tell me anything??? I appreciate any of your
MBP> ES&H you are willing to give me on this...

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assistant: Try reading the book, Eating Right To Stay Sober
        by Ketcham.  It's an eye-opener.  My sponsor
        "suggested" I read it when I first got sober
        ten years ago.  We often blame cravings on the
        wrong thing, it seems.
... I've made up my mind. Now to find some facts ...
system: You are Judith Labonte, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Esther Lindenfeld about "Re: Hi".

They wrote:
EL>       Hi there Judith.....Just wanted to say congratulations on your
EL>       upcomming anniversary. Hope you do something special for yourself.

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assistant: Thanks and this reached me on my ninth anniversary too - I think it's
the second time I received it, on two different boards.
system: You are Judith Labonte, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Andrew Dettman about "Breaking the Rules!!!".

They wrote:
AD>Secondly, I am touched by the courage of your humour in the face of an
AD>apparent tragedy - hang on to that courage for the laughter will balance
AD>the tears. It does not matter what you laugh about neither does it need
AD>analysing - it is the cathartic release of emotion that is vital when
AD>you are being tested in emotional ares which are the antithesis of
AD>vitality.

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assistant: I saw a tag-line on another network's recovery echo recently which I
thought you might enjoy.  It said "God is a comic playing to an
audience afraid to laugh."   Since I first saw this, I've been
repeating it to anyone I thought would enjoy and understand it - I
think it's working in my brain like a Zen Koan is supposed to or some
such thing.
Many of your ideas about Higher Power remind me very much of Sufism,
Bahai, Unitarian Universalist and Mystical Judaism based on the Zohar
and Kabbalah - or however YOU spell the transliteration of that term.
I have dabbled in a whole bunch of things like that before I hit
program and it was amazing the stuff I could drop intellectually on it.
In fact people came to me to teach them spirituality.  But my life was
a disaster area, waiting for civil defense to survey it and decree it
as such.  (a MAJOR disaster area)
Interestingly enough the steps in the program have taught me to use the
neat ideas and "cool" theories I learned in my around the world tour of
various and sundry religions, psychology studies, etc.
From reading what you right, I have the feeling you may have gone some
of this route yourself.
Have you noticed how much harder it is to practise this stuff than it
is to read and quote it?  (OY!)
Again, thanks for your support.
Have a great day!
system: You are Kurt J. Tischer, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Mary Beth Parisi about "cravings???".

They wrote:
MB>I think you are right...after I took care of all that was building up
MB>and stressing me out it passed...talked with my sponsor and he said
MB>that i have the habit of not telling people what is bothering me
MB>unless it is alcohol related and things build up to pressure cooker
MB>level...so, I have made a commitmentment to talk more to my sponsor
MB>ans support system and use this forum more often...I appreciate that
MB>someone else went through a similar thing and that I'm not going
MB>bonkers...thank you for the suggestions and please, keep in touch

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assistant: Well, I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better. I will keep
in touch. I have made many friends on these echoes.
        Take good care of yourself,
        Kurt
-=-
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system: You are Wes Fitzsimmons, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tim Dill about "All good things end".

They wrote:
TD> win32ole.zip available on the internet...
TD> Well that's how it works with some folks, myself I need a bit more
TD> f2f  meetings nowadays if you had been reading sip_aa you know by now
TD> that I lost my job..

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assistant: Tim Dill said something about All good things end to
Wes Fitzsimmons, and I couldn't resist..
Hiya Tim!
Couldn't find it in shareware.com, would you be able to give directions
as to where?
I didn't say that f2f wasn't important.  But it was SIP_AA that got me
into meetings here on island.  Moose was the one that gave me a local No
to call to find them.
(((Tim)))
                       Write back soon!, Wes Fitzsimmons
                          FIDO NET       1:18/24  Spinnaker BBS STT
                          INTERNET       ac006@virgin.usvi.net
... Your motherboard wears COM.BAT reboots!
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system: You are Wes Fitzsimmons, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Mark Sawyer about "Echolist source".

They wrote:
MS> Give me a call next time you are in town and we'll make a meeting
MS> together. As it was, there wasn't much time to do much more than
MS> coffee and donuts. I know the Moose really appreciated your visit. BTW,
MS> he's home now.

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assistant: Mark Sawyer said something about Echolist source to
Tim Dill, and I couldn't resist..
Hi Mark!
Tell Mooose I said hi and thanks!  (If he can't remember why, tell im
I'm in St. Croix)
(((Mark)))
                       Write back soon!, Wes Fitzsimmons
                          FIDO NET       1:18/24  Spinnaker BBS STT
                          INTERNET       ac006@virgin.usvi.net
... And on the 8th day, God said... "OK, Murphy, you're in charge"!
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system: You are Wes Fitzsimmons, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bill Forseth about "Getting out".

They wrote:
BF> Scuse me for butting in. I've been following the recovery subs
BF> for a while now, have tried to reply but I don't think my
BF> messages are getting out. I'll try again :)

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assistant: Bill Forseth said something about process to
Tree Walsh, and I couldn't resist..
Hiya Bill!
Fido's having a bad case of hic ups since I've gotten back on line.  I
got the word from my sysop that Wildcat ver 5 has a major bug thats
playing havic with the mail systems going thru WC 5 boards.
I figure I see 1 in 2 messages.  Some that are replies to messages
written to me, without ever having got the message.
(((Bill))
                       Write back soon!, Wes Fitzsimmons
                          FIDO NET       1:18/24  Spinnaker BBS STT
                          INTERNET       ac006@virgin.usvi.net
... If it flies, floats or flirts, RENT it, don't buy it.
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system: You are Wes Fitzsimmons, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Richard Ward about "HI".

They wrote:
RW> I think the 'recovery rate' is still about one out of four.
RW> ... If you're staring at the phone, and it's not ringing, it's me.

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assistant: Richard Ward said something about HI to
Judith Labonte, and I couldn't resist..
Hiya Guy!
You are optimistic!!!
So it *was* you that didn't call me....  BTW, hows planning for that
trip going?  I've got a room reserved, fares are at about 400 round trip
with taxes included.  Give me a rough day and time and I'll get crackin
on settin you up.  You are able to travel during the week, yes no?
                       Write back soon!, Wes Fitzsimmons
                          FIDO NET       1:18/24  Spinnaker BBS STT
                          INTERNET       ac006@virgin.usvi.net
... My karma ran over your dogma.
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system: You are Lostboy, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Andrew Dettman about "Any body there?".

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assistant: AD~~Just to see if these messages are getting through :-)
Hear you LOUD and clear and yes my bodys here :-)
system: You are Lostboy, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Tree Walsh about "cravings???".

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assistant: TW~~through about it.  She called it 'body memories' and likened it to
TW~~A similar thing is going on when we have using dreams.
TW~~I've had all types of cravings....mental, taste, smell, dreams.  The
TW~~I have come to see it as a normal part of my healing process, so it
Thank you for explaining this. I also have had these ""problems"", but
was not bold enough to step forward.
                                        Much gratitude
                                                        The wallflower
system: You are David Goyette, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "back".

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assistant: Hello All!
I'm back, my feed changed then dropped for  a while. It's still one day. I
forgot that for a little while.
David
system: You are Andrew Dettman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Mary Beth Parisi about "cravings???".

They wrote:
MBP> sponsor and others everyday...but when the stress gets high I
MBP> taste scotch...this is scaring the heck out of me...

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assistant: ~
Hello Mary Beth Parisi, keep coming back...
Sunday, 14 April 1996 15:37:00, Mary Beth Parisi wrote to All Subject:
cravings???
Wow...talk about cunning, baffling and powerful. One thing I do know is
that if I took a taste of Scotch, I soon wouldn't be able to taste anything
at all!!! I never liked the taste much anyway, but I do respect our
different tastes.
All I can share about this is to say that I don't know....except
that the programme will help with the fear and that you are far more
important than any old course or exam which might be charging you
stress.
Speak again soon I hope.
Love to you and yours,
Best wishes,
Andrew.
.!. There is no gravity--The earth sucks!
system: You are Richard Ward, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ken Stuckas about "cravings???".

They wrote:
KS> -=>cravings??? must be true.  I heard it from Mary Beth Parisi.
KS>  MBP> when the stress gets high I taste scotch...this is scaring the
KS>         Try reading the book, Eating Right To Stay Sober
KS>         by Ketcham.  It's an eye-opener.  My sponsor
KS>                         We often blame cravings on the
KS>         wrong thing, it seems.
KS> ... I've made up my mind. Now to find some facts ...

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assistant: On (16 Apr 96) Ken Stuckas wrote to Mary Beth Parisi...
ck
So was vodka and tomato juice!!!!!!   ;-)
... Warning this is a plot complication!
system: You are Bill Forseth, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Pat Winstanley about "Re: cravings???".

They wrote:
MBP> over 3 1/2 yrs sober...not really important but a fact that
MBP> may help...I am about to graduate college and am under alot
MBP> of stress...I'm meditating, doing alot of meetings, talking
MBP> with my sponsor and others everyday...but when the stress
MBP> gets high I taste scotch...this is scaring the heck out of
PW> Change! Change is scary.
PW> (I am having exactly the same problem for the same reason, though the
PW> difference in my case is that I don't have any 'time').
PW> I haven't a clue how to solve the problem, but would love to hear any
PW> practical suggestions.....
PW> Pat

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assistant: Life is change. Change is scary. Scary sucks. Therefore, life
 sucks.
 Sorry, I couldn't help it. I'm done now.
 When I was newly sober (and for a few years after) I'd smell
 something, and immediately think of a totally unrelated scene.
 Like smell hamburgers, and think of a cousin I hadn't seen in
 years. The memories were powerful and distracting, and I
 couldn't stop it. As soon as I began talking about it, the fear
 went away, but it was still mighty strange. Still happens
 sometimes, but not nearly as powerfully. Someone told me it had
 to do with something called psychological pairing, where two
 seemingly unrelated things become paired in the mind. Or maybe,
 brain damage. :)
 I've been sending the occasional message here for about three
 months, but they haven't been getting out. Now, I think they
 are. Good to be here (good to be anywhere!)
 Yours in sobriety -- Bill F.
system: You are Lostboy, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Shadowcat about "regarding your restaint".

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assistant: From your coments to judith
Subj: regarding your discussion      Conf: (76) RecoveryEc
SH~~~I had an experience that really cut through me on Sunday night, and you
tw
SH~~~I was at a poetry reading, in the dining room of an Inn. I have started
to
SH~~~"Excuse me?" I said. "I don't understand."
SH~~~"Oh it's simple," she told me. "Bacon is forbidden to jewish people, so
SH~~~that makes them simply love it, they're crazy about it, can't keep their
SH~~~hands off it."
SH~~~Shadowcat
I just to have to say " congrats" to you. maybe I've got some work to
do (on myself) but it would have 50/50 toss up between RAGING or keeping
my mouth shut but still being mad.
 * SLMR 2.1a *
system: You are Mary Beth Parisi, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to William Kinmond about "cravings???".

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assistant: I guess I got so scared that I forgot all iwas taught and knew to do...but
did instinctively call my sponsor and go to meetings...the thing is I let it
get to me...but now that i remember that it's not a unique experience and
that there are others that go through it from time totime I have some ammo to
fight it with if there is a next time...thanks for your input...don't be a
stranger
MB
system: You are Mary Beth Parisi, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kurt J. Tischer about "cravings???".

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assistant: I think this is as good as any meeting I've ever been to...thanks for being
there for me...I do appreciate it
MB
system: You are Mary Beth Parisi, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ken Stuckas about "cravings???".

They wrote:
KS> -=>cravings??? must be true.  I heard it from Mary Beth Parisi.
KS>
KS>  MBP> I've written in here a few times but haven't gotten many responses
KS>  MBP> back...right now this is me putting my hand out to others in the
KS>  MBP> program for suggestions/help...I have a little over 3 1/2 yrs
KS>  MBP> sober...not really important but a fact that may help...I am about
KS> to
KS>  MBP> graduate college and am under alot of stress...I'm meditating,
KS>  MBP> alot of meetings, talking with my sponsor and others everyday...but
KS>  MBP> when the stress gets high I taste scotch...this is scaring the heck
KS> out
KS>  MBP> of me...no one seems to be able to understand this or has ever gone
KS>  MBP> through it...can anyone tell me anything??? I appreciate any of
KS>  MBP> ES&H you are willing to give me on this...
KS>
KS>         Try reading the book, Eating Right To Stay Sober
KS>         by Ketcham.  It's an eye-opener.  My sponsor
KS>         "suggested" I read it when I first got sober
KS>         ten years ago.  We often blame cravings on the
KS>         wrong thing, it seems.

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assistant: On <16 Apr, 17:53>, Ken Stuckas wrote to Mary Beth Parisi :
oing
our
Thanks for the idea....I'm going to a recovery store tommorrow and will look
it up....have a good one
system: You are Mary Beth Parisi, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Pat Winstanley about "Re: cravings???".

They wrote:
PW> Hi Mary,
PW>
PW> Sunday April 14 1996 15:37, Mary Beth Parisi wrote to All:
PW>
PW>  MBP> over 3 1/2 yrs sober...not really important but a fact that
PW>  MBP> may help...I am about to graduate college and am under alot
PW>  MBP> of stress...I'm meditating, doing alot of meetings, talking
PW>  MBP> with my sponsor and others everyday...but when the stress
PW>  MBP> gets high I taste scotch...this is scaring the heck out of
PW>
PW> Change! Change is scary. When one is scared, what is the first reaction?
PW> Run for safety. If, in the past, safety was found in the bottle, then
PW> that's what you will head for subconcsiously. Simple really.
PW> (I am having exactly the same problem for the same reason, though the
PW> difference in my
PW>
PW> I haven't a clue how to solve the problem, but would love to hear any
PW> practical suggestions.....
PW>
PW> Pat
PW>
PW> ---
PW>  * Origin:  Pierless, Wigan, UK. [01942-749012 (voice)]  (2:250/107.99)
PW>

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assistant: On <16 Apr, 09:27>, Pat Winstanley wrote to Mary Beth Parisi :
Boy...you've got that onje right...looking for a job and graduating are
bigger things than I gave them credit for
case is that I don't have any 'time').
if you have an hour...you have some time...don't kid yourself...I'm no
further from a drink than you are
 I guess don't drink and go to meetings, get a good support network and
realize that you have to reach out...one thing I learned from all this is
that no problem is too small that I can't bring it to another person in
recovery, to a meeting, or right here...thanks for writing...I don't feel so
alone right now
MB
system: You are Mary Beth Parisi, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Shadowcat about "regarding your discussions...".

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assistant: What that woman said to you about bacon was ignorant and rude...but it must
have come mainly from ignorance...the way you reacted is to be
commended...don't know if I'd have been so polite...but I have been telling
alot of people what I think these days....never used to stand up to them when
they said things...but now as you said to her...my feelings are my feelings
and just that...I find the more wrong they are the louder they yell when
responding...guess this recovery stuff does change us...keep it up
MB
system: You are Pat Winstanley, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Other Recovery Paths".

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assistant: Hi All,
Noticed a comment from someone (Judith?) regarding Rational Recovery etc.
There
is also SMART (can't remember what the initials stand for but it's similar to
RR).
There is a mailing list (you can take it by e-mail or netmail) as follows...
there is a human sorting the list out so just address a message to the
postmaster or whatever to the following address to start receivingthe list.
SMARTREC@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU
Pat
system: You are Pat Winstanley, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Recovery message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bill Forseth about "Re: process".

They wrote:
BF>  For the sake of discussion which part of the 12 step
BF> framework do you think doesn't work for everyone? There's
BF> surrender, confidential admission of wrongs, restitution,
BF> ongoing maintainence ... these are simply things that have
BF> universally recognized as stepping stones to a new life by
BF> all kinds of people with all kinds of problems throughout
BF> the ages. The only thing that AA added to it is the one
BF> drunk helping another slant.

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assistant: Hi Bill,
Friday April 12 1996 04:41, Bill Forseth wrote to Tree Walsh:
Turning things over to 'God' -  when a participant has no HP at all there is
a great big hole in the doing of the steps.
There is also the 'turning things over' itself, which stresses helplessness,
rather than self responsibility.
Those two factors combine to make it basically impossible (for me) to embrace
the 12-steps as a program (though there is a tremendous amount in the program
I can and do accept and use).
Yes... if you take all but the last bit out of the steps and program, there
really isn't much of anything left. :-)
The steps are basically a re-write of the Lord's Prayer and the 10
commandments when you get down to it. It's a plan for living a life that is
considerate to the needs and desires of self and others, and one that is
based on living life in a westernised/christianised society.
Please don't think from the above that I'm knocking AA and other similar
programs. I'm not. Merely commenting on how they don't necessarily work as
they stand for everyone. For instance, Bhuddism is, I think, a spiritual path
that concentrates on the self rather than a HP, and I have seen a few people
who follow that path having tremendous difficulties reconciling their beliefs
with the 12-step teachings/methods. Both have the same ends, but very
different routes for reaching those ends.
We hear alot about 'terminal uniqueness' but sometimes people are genuinely
unlike their fellows in fundamental ways, and need to adapt programs to their
needs, rather than adapt themselves to the needs of a program.
Pat