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system: You are Phil Paskos, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Airguns message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Re: grip finish".

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> BT>I have a new CP88 with wood grips.  The wood is not finised.  Is there
>   >good wood finish for guns?
>
> Brian,

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I take the boiled linseed oil and mix it about 50-50 with pure gum
turpintine. Rub it on the wood with an old rag. Let it sit over-night. Get
a piece of felt and rub it down. Repeat the process until you are tired of
doing it. You will get a diminishing return on your efforts as you go. i
did a walnut stock on a home made piece for an SM-100 a few years ago and
did the same thing to my CR-94 stock that did not have a lot of finish from
the factory. No one commented on my wood working skills which weren't that
great , but lots of people liked the finish on the stock. It's vey
non-critical. You really have to work at it to mess it up. Putting a hard
urethane finish on a gun without a lot of preperation is much more
difficult in my estimation. A little dust, a minor error in application
with the varnish and you can start over. If you try this oil method you
will find that after the second or third coat that it takes very little of
the finish to wet down the stock. Make sure it's dry before you buff it
with the felt. You can put 2 or three coats on now and next winter put a
couple more right over the top and see the patina get smootherand deeper. A
found this to be a very relaxing way to finish  a piece of wood and very
satisfying when you stop.
 Phil.P.
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> Unfortunately, this gun is a bit more difficult to tear down and
> that accuracy? :-)

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Hi Eb:
troubleshoot!  Have you tried it yet?  Maybe it's best not to mess with
You read my mind.  The thought of the piston seal adversely affecting
accuracy has crossed my mind several times.  However, I do believe the
velocity will continue to deteriorate with the Vac Seal, so I may as well
change it out now.  I also think sometimes the Vac Seal can rotate during
shots, causing a larger grouping.
I have taken the RX-1 apart quite a few number of times.  Todd Mier
(Airguns International) has been kind enough to walk me through it several
times (I'm a slow learner).   Once you let the air out of the gas ram, it's
actually easier to disassemble than the R-1.  The only trick is to keep the
moly out of the gas ram area which uses airlube.  Of course, remembering to
push in the safety button on the trigger card before assembling that unit
is critical also.  There aren't than many moving pieces to the RX-1.
Tom Jue/ca/usa
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Hi Tom:
    Re. RX-1 velocity loss....I believe Tom Gaylord had the same problem
with his Vortek Vac-Seal & gas spring in his R1.   Wasn't it in a past
Airgun Newsletter....the VacSeal review?   I have it....anyway...he
noticed simular gradual velocity loss and it turned out that it was the
VacSeal needed more moly lube.   It seems the Vac-Seal, though
moly-impregnated, needs a lot of moly.    He increased the amount of
Moly2moly (or Maccari 80% moly) grease on the sides of the Vortek#1
(VacSeal) and he got his original velocity back ..... which had
decreased 50+ fps as I recall the article....over about 1,000 or less
pellets.    I have the article.....call me to remind me and I'll find it
for you.
Robert Hamilton
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Hi dtf:
    Thanks for the interesting Crosman Premier info.   Please do
encourage Mr Holtz to write a US Airgun article about the Crosman
Premier pellet.   So popular, so good, so many users....it would be of
serious interest to us USAirgun Magazine subscribers!   Thanks for any
support you do in getting such a excellent topic to print!
Robert Hamilton
No Copperheads are not the same as Premiers. Premiers only come in a
cardboard
padded box designed specifically to keep the pellets safe in transit.
Your
best bet to obtain Premiers is to mail order them. They are well worth
the
extra trouble. They are almost universally acclaimed as the best pellet.
They
are unique in many respects, but the most interesting to me is that they
were
engineered and designed by non other than Robert Holtz. Mr. Holtz is the
retired Crosman historian who has helped me in writing my books on
Cromsan and
we had been talking for years before I found out he was the essentially
the
sole force behind the Premier Pellet. It is a fascinating story and you
can
expect a story in US Airgun Magazine sometime this year telling it.
regards
dt fletcher
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Hi dtf & folks:
     Golly!   DTF and I actually agreed on a "philosophical" issue for
once!    Cough!  Cough!  Choke!   Please don't shock me like this dtf!
My heart almost stopped!  :-)
Robert Hamilton
p.s. How have you been?
p.p.s.  My predictions for 1998....dtf will sell off his Crosmans and
use the money for an Airarms .177 cal ProElite .....just teasing you,
dtf.  :-)
reh
p.p.p.s.  I heard a .22 cal ProElite owner comment that the ProElite may
be a bit louder than a Beeman R7 (he had the 13" barrel).    My
prediction for the future....AirArms will extend the ProElite barrel
shroud to a longer length as the current shroud was designed for the
initial 9" barrel and extending the barrel from 9" to 13" effectively
lost 4" of shroud functioning to modulate the discharge noise.   A
longer shroud will ease cocking effort too.   BTW, I heard that Jim
Maccari has come out with a ProElite muzzlebrake that also does
additional modulating of the ProElite's discharge noise.
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They wrote:
> From: FletcherOR@aol.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list AIRGUN.LIST <AIRGUN.LIST@airgunhq.com>
> Subject: Re: R1/Team Magnumitis
> Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 11:16 AM
>
> In a message dated 98-02-20 02:17:08 EST, you write:
>
> << Everyone has their own style, I hunt cocked and loaded.  I seldom use
>  safety on any anything. >>
>
> Walking around with a loaded, cocked, safety off gun is an accident ready
> happen. Stupid is not a style.
> dtf
>

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If one obeys the proper rules of gunhandling it shouldn't matter if they
are walking or the safety is on.
Every gun is always loaded
Don't point it at anything you are unwilling to destroy
Keep your finger off the trigger until sites are on target
Seems like there is another one.  Anyway, one has to violate two of them
for an accident to happen.
Bill
Mich
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assistant: Message-ID: <72b9c368.34ee3a0e@aol.com>
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You are right Larry,
The old guys had cows to milk and crops to plant and harvest and took their
time to get the beautiful finish that resulted from years of handling.
I would come home from battling with an 088 IBM collater and I wanted
"instant" results.  I would get that 15 year finish in about 6 to 8 months my
way.  Now it is once a year, or after a shoot.  Some people don't like the
"dull" shine that results but I prefer it.
Good shooting,
Jerry R.
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system: You are Roland, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Airguns message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

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Tom, If you scream loud and hard, Vortec will send you a replacement seal.
They took care of a bad seal I recieved after a little arm twisting. The new
Vortec seal part 2 looks very good.
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>  Anyway, one has to violate two of them
> for an accident to happen.

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-Bill Bush <Bush@flash.net> wrote:
I disagree. All you have to do is violate the one about
pointing in an unsafe direction and experience a mechanical
failure. Both tend to happen if you trip, stumble, or fall.
Like Bruce, I don't think a safety is a good substitute for
proper handling. Unlike Bruce, I don't think it's a waste
of time to use it. I suppose if you're a safe driver, you
don't need to use seat belts, either. I use the safety when
I hunt, and when I practice hunting. At the trap range, I
yell "pull" with the gun in a field carry position and the
safety on, but that is just my (unusual) personal preference.
Mitch.
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assistant: AirPower's www presence has moved from the voicenet site to
     http://www.airpower.com
If you maintain a link list could you update it please?  Thanks.
Jim
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Crossman Premier v. Copperhead?     06:13:0002/21/98".

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The Copperhead round-nose do have the same weight and appear to have the
same designed shape as the Premiers.   They are not made to the same
standards, and perhaps not even by the same type of equipment.
The Copperheads will often have an obvious molding line dividing the
pellet in half.  Very few will be distorted and with extrusions along that
line.  Most will be pretty darn good, and any of the Copperhead styles
are a lot better than any of the other brands of "plinking grade"
pellets.  I use em when I can get em cheap enough.  Sometimes you
will pay as much for Copperheads as for Premiers.  Not a good buy
unless you specifically want wadcutters or pointed.  Premiers are only
round nose.
   In a box of Premiers, they are just plain all "perfect" and all
alike.  Each box has a die no. on it, and all pellets in that box
were made from that exact same die.  Maximum shooting uniformity
within that lot.
Randy Sparks
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I haven't been able to find Crossman Premier pellets anywhere around town.
But at the local Sportmart they sell Crossman Copperhead pellets.
Are they the same as Premiers?
Weigh 14.3 grains (.22 cal) and come in 3 flavors: round-nose, pointed, and
wadcutter. All weigh the same. They're sold in little red plastic vessels
with a snap-lid.
They shoot nicely and they dirty my barrel as Premiers apparently also do.
Should I keep looking, or have I found Premiers already?
-Michael
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user: You are replying to All about "Re: Safeties and hunting, was magnumitis06:13:0002/21/98".

They wrote:
>
> -Bill Bush <Bush@flash.net> wrote:
> >  Anyway, one has to violate two of them
> > for an accident to happen.
>
> I disagree. All you have to do is violate the one about
> pointing in an unsafe direction and experience a mechanical
> failure. Both tend to happen if you trip, stumble, or fall.
> Like Bruce, I don't think a safety is a good substitute for
> proper handling. Unlike Bruce, I don't think it's a waste
> of time to use it. I suppose if you're a safe driver, you
> don't need to use seat belts, either. I use the safety when
> I hunt, and when I practice hunting. At the trap range, I
> yell "pull" with the gun in a field carry position and the
> safety on, but that is just my (unusual) personal preference.
> Mitch.
>

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Lurker, here.  The Wife and I have a couple of airguns we use for
practice in the winter.
FWIW, I hunted with my Garand last October locked and loaded with the
safety on.  Heck, I carried it around the camp that way as well.
That's what the Army taught me to do.  And like a zillion GIs in WWII
and Korea when I had a shot to take I _VERY_ carefully unsafed it with
my thumb and forefinger so as not to spook the "game" :-) Nice buck
and he's in my freezer.
Heck, if that Mulie had ATTACKED :-) I'd have just shoved it off
with my trigger finger right befor shooting him.
Safeties are there for a _good_ purpose.
Use the firearm as it was designed to be used.  I would not own a
firearm that had a difficult to use or inneffictive safety.  The
Garand has one of the best safeties ever designed.
Ken
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user: You are replying to Bruce Perathaner about "Re: grip finish".

They wrote:
DM>I have used plain old boiled linseed oil available from any decent
DM>hardware store.  It's a lot cheaper than the stuff sold in gun shops
DM>and works well in my experience.
BP>Dave,  The problem with "boiled" linseed oil from the hardware store
>isn't boiled, it just has chemicals added.
BP>For finish blend equal parts of a good marine spar varnish, boiled
>linseed oil and clean Stoddard Solvent or "TERPS" (Turpentine Replacement
>Paint Solvent) which you can get at any good paint store.
BP>It's best to use real turpentine and boil your own linseed oil.
BP>Just, FYI!�

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assistant: How does this negatively affect its use as a gun stock finish?  As I
said, it worked well for me.
These ought to work.
Thanks.
Dave
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LD>Right on Dave!  I've used this "natural Loctite" many times, it works
>ld

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assistant: great!
Yup.  Sometimes simplest = the best (or at least real good).
Dave
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> Initially, I went looking for the old Crosman guns simply as shooters not
> collectors items. For me they are just more fun to shoot.
> cheers
> dtf

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FletcherOR@aol.com wrote:
s
Here here.  Definitely more fun to shoot than have it sit around just
looking at it.  Those old Crosmans can shoot.
Andrew
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In a message dated 98-02-20 22:05:33 EST, you write:
<< Hi dtf:
     Thanks for the interesting Crosman Premier info.   Please do
 encourage Mr Holtz to write a US Airgun article about the Crosman
 Premier pellet.   So popular, so good, so many users....it would be of
 serious interest to us USAirgun Magazine subscribers!   Thanks for any
 support you do in getting such a excellent topic to print!
 Robert Hamilton >>
I think the story of the Premier pellet is one of the more interesting ones
n
recent airgun history. What Crosman did was essentially reinvent the way a
pellet was made with an entirely new process. Mr. Holtz saw the potential in
the new technology and happened to be in just the right place at just the
right time to develop the Premier. One of the more interesting aspects of the
design is that it came completely from Bob's own efforts, thoughts, and
exhaustive testing.
regards
dt fletcher
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In a message dated 98-02-20 22:06:26 EST, you write:
<< Hi dtf & folks:
      Golly!   DTF and I actually agreed on a "philosophical" issue for
 once!    Cough!  Cough!  Choke!   Please don't shock me like this dtf!
 My heart almost stopped!  :-)
 Robert Hamilton
 p.s. How have you been?
 p.p.s.  My predictions for 1998....dtf will sell off his Crosmans and
 use the money for an Airarms .177 cal ProElite .....just teasing you, >>
Actually I am selling off my Crosmans to afford the Edward London Air Cane
that I just bought!  Actually, the main reason I moved to the vintage guns
as
that I just didn't like the instrinsic vibration of the spring guns.
Initially, I went looking for the old Crosman guns simply as shooters not as
collectors items. For me they are just more fun to shoot.
cheers
dtf
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>DM>I have used plain old boiled linseed oil available from any decent
>DM>hardware store.  It's a lot cheaper than the stuff sold in gun shops
>DM>and works well in my experience.
>
>BP>Dave,  The problem with "boiled" linseed oil from the hardware store
>  >isn't boiled, it just has chemicals added.
>
>How does this negatively affect its use as a gun stock finish?  As I
>said, it worked well for me.

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At 03:45 PM 2/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
It doesn't.  Yes, in the old days the linseed oil was boiled; today
it sin't.  But the end result is the same.  A drying oil which forms
a hard finish.
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Gary Writes:
Hi Hank, thanks for the info on the HW97; just what I was looking for !  It
sounds like you picked the right gun for you needs.  I just received my
mail-order copy of From Trigger to Target and am busy absorbing lots of new
information.  I also looked at an R7 (another gun I was considering) but
decided I want something a bit more substantial.  Working on a custom set
of exotic hardwood grips for my 747 air pistol should keep me busy while I
continue the rifle search.  Thanks again for the feedback !
Gary
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DM>BP>Dave,  The problem with "boiled" linseed oil from the hardware store
DM>  >isn't boiled, it just has chemicals added.
DM>How does this negatively affect its use as a gun stock finish?  As I
DM>said, it worked well for me.

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assistant: Dave,  One of the things that it does is to make the finish darken with
exposure to UV light.  Like allot of things...the real stuff just works
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