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system: You are Eileen O'Croinan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Gwen Todd about "New friends".

They wrote:
EOC> (chuckle)  Never had that problem, personally...
GT> Consider yourself lucky.
GT> He has enough personality and leadership.  He is so far
GT> ahead of kids his age that he has never had a friend
GT> his age.  He's now dating a 20 yo, and he's only 16.
EOC> I've got one hyperactive stepdaughter, one physically and emotionally
EOC> handicapped stepdaughter, one petit-mal epileptic daughter and three
EOC> (joint custody) near-angelic geniuses...  And only one boy in the whole
EOC> pack!
GT> Oh, how do you manage?
GT> I wouldn't trade my boys for anything.
GT> I love my daughter, but we seem to have no reference points in common.
GT> HELP!!

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assistant: I do.  I also become uncomfortable in a room full of other mothers who tell
tales of how much their child means to them because of the number of
miscarriages they've had, or all their prenatal complications -- I can
empathize, but not sympathize -- I never had any problems with becoming a
mother.
Sounds like the young man my stepmother's sister was seeing in the early
80's. It also sounds like he'll do okay in the work force, as long as he
doesn't pick a company that can't handle having such a mature young man in
their midst.
Joint custody is a wonderful tool, when you don't use it as a weapon against
your X...  The Homeschooler/epileptic/13 y/o, Mandi, is our full-time child.
Amanda and Kimi (Hyper/13 and PEH/11) live across town with their mother, and
visit 4 days out of every 2 weeks.  I have to pin down my X on Joint Custody
Rotation, and get something legitimately submitted to the court that approved
our divorce, as he's got residential custody of our three children, and we
live in different states.  Both he and I are remarried.  (He added an infant
step-son to the "kinder crew")
A familiar sentiment.  I wouldn't give up my son for $100 million...
Is this the same teen-age daughter Glen was talking about elsewhere??  Give
me some points of reference, if you want some serious help...
B*B!
Eileen
system: You are Ken Woodard, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Barb Luongo about "Response (again)".

They wrote:
>On May 25, Barb Luongo explained this to Ken Woodard<
BL>slanted, but when I read a _History_ book, I expect it to actually have
BL>historical knowledge, and relevant information about the different
BL>cultures - no matter from the perspective it is.
BL>The best thing I can say about getting this book is that it is teaching
BL>my kid that there are many views of how History occurred and what the
BL>important points are.
BL>(I think quizzing him on who the first protestant
BL>missionary is totally irrelevant to World History and Cultures. But,
BL>even that could be interesting information - until we have a list of
BL>other missionaries, whose only significance is that they were protestant
BL>missionaries.

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assistant: See, you can use almost anything to teach...right? I've taken regular
story books that I've been reading aloud to the kids where it talked
about Donald Duck going to the beach on Sunday morning and interjected
questions like, "Where should they have been going instead of to the
beach?" It's actually kind of fun to be able to use materials that you
have on hand in ways that the author didn't "really" intend....
Possibly it would have a great deal more significance to you and your
family as history if your son or daughter were interested in possibly
going to the mission field, or if you had relatives who were/are
misisonaries and then you were tying it all in with literature and
having him or her read biographies and autobiographies about "great
Christian missionaries." Otherwise, I can see how you would feel that..
I'm certainly not one for lists. I fear that when it comes to history
I'm not even a big fan of it....too much "memorizing" of facts for me
and not enough relevance....at least that's the way I was taught it. My
daughter (first grade) hasn't really had to do too much memorizing of
historical facts, and if I have my way, it will continue to be that
way....facts, dates and names memorized are easily forgotten and the
only good it's done has been as an exercise to the brain (which could be
good....all by itself...it's just that if I'm going to memorize
something, I'd like it to be something with a little more "value.")
(Now, I'll probably have all those history "nuts" out there mad at me
for saying that...but so be it...it's not the first time someone's been
angry with me....)
Well, thanks for the explanation. It finally is making some sense to
me......
Rachael Woodard
system: You are Susan Grabowski, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "NJ laws".

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assistant: To anyone homeschooling in New Jersey:
My husband & I plan on starting hs with our son this coming September
(grade 7), and the most info I had gotten from anyone on what is
required is : "equivalency" to what's being taught in the public
schools.
A message I recently read on Prodigy laid out some specifics, like NJ
history, civics, geography, phys ed, minimum 180 day school year, etc.
I've asked this person to tell me where she received this info and will
check back later today to see if it's been answered.
When I was investigating hs'ing, I went to the library and read through
those books outlining the state laws (NJSA 18A:38-25) and was under the
impression that the specifics mentioned in later chapters pertained to
the public schools only, such as curriculum standards (like the history
requirements and sexuality courses), pledge to the flag, dates of school
year (begin July 1st, end on June 30th), etc.
If anyone knows specifics of what rules we have to follow, could they
please let me know? I'm sure the curriculum we plan on using (Calvert)
will certainly cover all the required history, and the school he's in
now (public) has never even taught geography itself, except a sentance
here and there in the social studies books. Phys ed is no problem - we
already have planned *documentable* participation in bowling leagues for
2 or more hours a week, even longer than the 40 minutes gym class he now
has, and if "health" is a requirement (another thing he hasn't had in
his current school), whatever isn't covered in the science books or
talks with mom, I'm sure he'll make up in visits to the doctor for his
asthma and allergies (grin).
Thanks,
Sue G in NJ
system: You are Charles Dewar, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Eileen O'Croinan about ""Christian" History".

They wrote:
EO>I've got a friend here locally who's trying to put together a database on
EO>secular/some-religion/very Christian/Christian biased scholastic
EO>If you'd post Tori Otsuki with the name of these texts, their catalog and
EO>she'd probably greatly appreciate it...

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assistant: aterials.
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I sure would like that information as well.  I posted in here a couple
of times in the past asking for non-christian/religious materials and
never got a reply.  Like homeschooling itself, I figured it was just
most of the folks were fundamentalist christians.  I would like to keep
faith and academics separate.  If you can point me in some direction,
I'd appreciate it.
Charles
system: You are John Black, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Glen Todd about ""Christian" History".

They wrote:
-> As, I've said, one of the most important reasons, IMO, for going to
-> many sources instead of just one.

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assistant: Hi,
That's for sure!!!
Well, I'll be cut off in a couple of days, so have a great summer!
Goodbye! Marge B-)
system: You are Alinda Harrison, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Barb Luongo about "Moderator warning (was "C".

They wrote:
>  DC> Conference. (I think it strikes to the very heart of the motivation
>  DC> behind most homeschooling in this country today)
>
> And all along I thought it was less than adequate public schools.
> ... Music is like religion, everyone swears theirs is better.

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assistant: RE: Moderator warning (was "C
BY: Barb Luongo to Danny Carlton on Thu May 23 1996 15:22:19
In my case, it was the individual needs of the children. I have a couple
not-so-average kids that are having trouble in a system forced to cater to
the average.
Religion they would get at home regardless of where they study academics. I
am religious, but I do not homeschool for religious reasons.
Very true...
                     ...peace...
                     Alinda Sue...
system: You are Alinda Harrison, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Danny Carlton about "Moderator warning (was "C".

They wrote:
>  *you* wish to discuss, can be discussed. Yes, we can talk about an
>  infinite number of Homeschooling related topics, but when
>  Homeschooling overlaps religion, it suddenly becomes "off topic",
>  that is discriminatory, to say the least.

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assistant: RE: Moderator warning (was "C
BY: Danny Carlton to Amber Floyd on Fri May 24 1996 19:55:00
The problem with getting into the topic of religion is that there are so many
brands and flavors. The big debate has been over "Christian" references, as
if all of the various denominations can be covered by one generic reference,.
Yet what you refer to as "facts" based on the Bible are not interpreted the
same way by all Christians. I am a Christian, yet some people have tried to
tell me I am not because we do not agree on all issues of doctrine.
Despite the fact that I am Christian, firmly accepting and following Jesus
Christ, I may find some of the "Christian" curriculums offensive or possibly
just inacurrate.
Perhaps it would be best to say such-and-such curriculum fits in well with
Baptist teachings, or Methodist, or LDS...rather than just "Christian". I
don't think the curriculum has been made that all Christians can agree on.
That aside, I homeschool for academic reasons, not religious. While religion
is part of the teaching I give my children at home, it would be whether I
homeschooled or not. I don't believe isolating my children from the rest of
the world is neccesary for their spiritual growth.
...but to each his own. The reasons for homeschooling are as varied as the
people themselves.
                           ...peace...
                           Alinda Sue...
system: You are Alinda Harrison, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Karin Green about "New Homeschooler".

They wrote:
> I am new to home schooling, and really don't know anything about it.  I
> plan on homeschooling for the first time this year.  My daughter is
> going to be starting the second grade.  I would be glad to get any help
> I could from any one.  I live in N.W. Florida.  I only know of Beka
> Curriculum and Christian Liberty, I would like to find out if there is
> others out there to choose from.
>                                           Karin
>

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assistant: RE: New Homeschooler
BY: Karin Green to All on Sat May 25 1996 14:45:04
Hi Karin :)
Are you looking for specific religious curriculum (the two you mentioned are
religious based) or are you homeschooling for academic reasons?
I find what works best for me is to make my own curriculum using the
resources available at the library and the local school supply store.
Best wishes...
                        ...peace...
                        Alinda Sue...
system: You are Terri Lehoux, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Abeka Curr.- For Sale".

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assistant: I have a few books for sale.  Maybe someone needs some of these:
K-5 Readers:
    My First Kindergarten Poems
    I Like to Read Well
    Jesus helps
    Bob Jones-Bible Truths-Students and Teachers
1st Grade Readers:
    Tip Toes
    Stepping Stones
    Aesop's Fables
    Open Windows
    Merry-go-round
    No Longer A Nobody
    Strong and True
    Seesaw
    The Bridge Book
    Kind and Brave
1st Grade Curriculum:
    First Grade Seatwork
    2 - Letters and Sounds Test Booklets
    2 - Letters and Sounds Teacher's Keys
    2 - Spelling and Poetry Teacher's Editions
    Spelling and Poetry I students - couple of pages written on
    Phonics and Reading Curriculum I
    Arithmetic I Curriculum
    Language I Teacher's Key
    My America - Students
    Discovering God's World - Teacher's and Students
2nd grade curriculum:
    Phonics and Reading 2 curriculum
    Our America - has been written in on some pages
    Enjoying God's World - students
    More About Numbers - Teacher Key and Curriculum
Bob Jones 2nd grade curriculum:
    Heritage Studies for Christian Schools 2 - Communities In America
    Science 2 - Teacher's and students
Other materials:
    What Your 1st grader Needs to Know    by E.D. Hirsch
    Bob Jones Bible Truths students 6th
    Elementary Bible Truths Handbook
    Abeka New World History and Geography - students
         Has test booklet with it also
Let me know what you need and we can negotiate a reasonable price.
    I usually sell books for around half of what they sell for new,
unless they are written in (in that case I only expect about a quarter
of the original price and in some cases will throw them in free with
other books bought).
Terri Lehoux - Rt. 1, Box 1850, Springvale, ME 04083
    (207) 324-3903
system: You are Barb Luongo, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Gwen Todd about "New friends".

They wrote:
-=> Gwen Todd said this to Eileen on 23 May 96  07:41:02<=-
EOC> Standard sitcoms...  Try for an hour, with Star Trek: Next Generation
EOC> reruns, or the rest of the Star Trek genre.  At least those have
EOC> interpersonal and professional skills readily displayed, and they touch
EOC> a lot of the issues available in the press...
GT> My eldest was my "experimental child".  He only got homemade baby
GT> food, didn't get candy until he was three or four, and only was
GT> allowed to watch PBS.  My awakening came when he was about four and
GT> started playing with the neighbor kids.  They would play superheroes
GT> and he would always come in a get a scarf and be "Dr Who" while
GT> everyone else was being superman or spiderman.  That was when I
GT> started letting him watch Saturday morning cartoons.

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assistant: Hi Gwen!
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I wouldn't give in to the Saturday morning cartoon bit. When my oldest
went to school, he had never seen one of those, and still now at 13
still hasn't, though I've caught him watching some sitcoms I don't
approve of now and then.
When other kids were playing superheros, Will was playing Star Trek. He
made the playground into the Enterprise and solved the universes
problems at recess... and the other kids joined in. Some of the things
were complicated for the other kids, but they got used to it. I think it
helped them as well as Will.
... Reality is for those who can't handle Star Trek.
system: You are ``Laurene Wells``, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "RE: ME am....".

They wrote:
>Me am home ejukated and az yoo can cee it had dun me no harm!! And if yoo
>thunk me riting be gude yoo shuld cee me soshul skills!!!

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assistant: How did this get through?  I thought it was pretty clear that this is a
forum for discussion of home education, not criticism or ridicule of it?  If
much more anti-homeschool sentiment is allowed in here, I'll be dropping the
sub.  I get plenty of that from my inlaws and other sources as it is!
-The Zookeeper
system: You are Voncille Proctor, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to ``Laurene Wells`` about "Re: RE: read to kids".

They wrote:
`W> wholeheartedly in disagreement with them!  I decided that day that
`W> so much violence and hatred and aggression in this world, that they
`W> every ounce of love, every moment of cuddles we can give them - every
`W> they can absorb!  I decided that parents reading to their children was
`W> very important.  And I still find myself wishing my husband had time to
`W> stories to the boys, Jhereg and Rivan should see that Daddies read
`W> it's not just a woman thing to do.  And I find myself wondering if this
`W> 2 of my 3 brothers hate reading so much - because they received
`W> messages from my father that books are for women.

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assistant: children
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Hi Laurene,
Hear! Hear!  I'm so very glad to see someone feels the same way I do.  I'm
quite sure there are others as well, however, I rarely hear them speak out.
It has been the same with my baby, von Doren (almost 1 yr).  He has, up until
the last couple of weeks, only been intersted in chewing on the books, too.
Now that he is showing more interest in looking at the pictures, etc. I am
really having to make an effort to read to him every day.  I just bought
several interactive books yesterday that he is responding very well too.
ow,
like you, to get his Daddy to read to him sometimes.  The difference here
being, my husband loves to read!  He just doesn't make the time to do it.  I
wholeheartedly agree with you though, that it is high time to get the message
out that reading is for EVERYONE-not just women!
 I'm pretty new to this bbs and have been reading quite a few of your notes.
I really like what you have to say.  I also REALLY like the names you have
chosen for your boys!  As you can see, my name is also unusual, and so is my
son's.  When I replied to your letter about library cards awhile back, I
didn't even notice you were from Portland area!  I am from Canby, so I am
obviously having the same experience as you.  I wonder what libraries in
ther
parts of the country are doing?
Well, gotta run, but it's really good to meet you, and I'm glad you are in my
local area!  Have you tried the "Mom's Online! BBS?  Everything you want to
know about things locally to do with your kids, and more!  Their #
s:656-MOMS
(656-6667).  I am on there all the time.  See you later!
Regards,
Voncille
system: You are ``Laurene Wells``, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "RE: hi".

They wrote:
> Hope you got my E-Mail ok.  This is my husbands BBS that I put together so
> I can receive mail.  Will be putting AT & T internet package on soon.
> Talk at ya later

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assistant: I can't seem to receive FIDOmail here.  My Internet address is
Laurene.Wells@hubert.rain.com if you could please tell me more about this
Internet package you are talkinga bout?  I would LOVE to be able to offer
and
USE) Internet on my BBS!
-The Zookeeper
system: You are ``Laurene Wells``, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Biblio Tech address".

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assistant: FOUND IT!  Silly me, looking in the documentation for an address!  It's
printed right on the CD!
PDSL
Winscombe House
Beacon RD
Crowborough
Sussex  TN6 1UL
+44 892 663298
   ISBN 0 9516041 6 3.  It's in ISO-9660 Format for MSDOS.
Hope this helps!
-The Zookeeper
system: You are John Black, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Susan Grabowski about "NJ laws".

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assistant: There's a great book called "A Survivors Guide to Homeschooling", by
Shackleford and White. If you can get a copy, you should find all the
rules and regs you need, plus lots of very practical hands-on info.
Order it at your local bookstore.
Marge B-)
system: You are Alinda Harrison, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Eileen O'Croinan about "homeschooling TV shows".

They wrote:
> (chuckle)  If you've got a local tobacco shop, check into getting their
> boxes (especially the wooden ones), for renovating into jewelry boxes and
> children's treasure boxes.  Even a seven year old can have fun with tole
> painting and decoupage, and you can pull "quality control" for her.  Even
> splatter-painting with oils or enamels will appeal to the generalized
> of a flea market, and the girls can build up a decent stock for holiday
> craft-sales.

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assistant: RE: homeschooling TV shows
BY: Eileen O'Croinan to Alinda Harrison on Mon May 27 1996 00:29:34
empt
audien
Lately they've been interested in paper mache. There's a lot we can do with
that: pinatas (I need a list of ascii characters), masks, bowls, ect. They've
made pinatas with me before :)
                             ...peace...
                             Alinda Sue...
system: You are Eileen O'Croinan, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Home Schooling message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Charles Dewar about "PHAN".

They wrote:
EO>I've got a friend here locally who's trying to put
EO>together a database on
EO>secular/some-religion/very Christian/Christian
EO>biased scholastic materials.
EO>If you'd post Tori Otsuki with the name of these
EO>texts, their catalog and al
EO>she'd probably greatly appreciate it...
CD> I sure would like that information as well.  I posted in here a couple
CD> of times in the past asking for non-christian/religious materials and
CD> never got a reply.  Like homeschooling itself, I figured it was just
CD> most of the folks were fundamentalist christians.  I would like to keep
CD> faith and academics separate.  If you can point me in some direction,
CD> I'd appreciate it.

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assistant: Okay...  Tori's busy replacing her modem at the moment, so I'll make sure she
gets this, so she can reply as soon as she's back online...
B*B!
Eileen