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user: You are replying to Disen Abella about "Re: 2 node network: need advice".

They wrote:
DA> bill. (How much more expensive are "generic-brand" PCI network cards
DA> anyway?) Do you have any particular suggestions for low-cost but still
DA> reliable 16-bit or PCI network cards? (Accton? D-Link??)
DA> 1b) I do plan to get "combo" network cards though -- so it can handle
DA> coax and UTP cables. I think coax cable is the better choice. But I'd
DA> also like to buy UTP cables to serve as alternative connection.
DA> need to be in a different configuration -- "crossover" I think.
DA> What configuration is a "crossover" cable -- has anyone tried this?
DA> In what lengths are coax cables and UTP cables generally bought?
DA> (I estimate my home needs would be just about 10-15 meters)
DA> Can "cross-over" cables be bought or does it need special
DA> configuration?
DA> otherwise, one computer can't be used when the server is executing.
DA> (but it's possible to set up a small netware partition on another hard
DA> disk partition and run it only when necessary/testing purposes,
DA> right?)
DA> What about peer-to-peer networking if in DOS-mode (assuming I'd like
DA> to get a network running too while the new computer is running under
DA> MS-DOS mode)?  Are there any low-cost freeware/shareware network
DA> operating system (suited for novices who don't need very much security
DA> and other features)?
DA> IPX-compatibility DOS --
DA> One other concern -- how about IPX-compatible networks (eg. for
DA> multi-user games) -- isn't it just NE2000 compatibility for the network
DA> cards is required?
DA> Simply loading the Novell IPX.COM, IPXODI.COM or
DA> VLM.EXE will make the IPX work (without requiring a Netware server?),
DA> right?

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assistant: Disen Abella woke half the neighborhood at 03:12 by yelling at All about 2
node network: need advice...
    Either should work fine.
    I'm having trouble locating my pinout guide at the moment (someone else
may be able to comment on this), but a crossover cable is nothing more than
a 10Base-T cable that has the transmit and receive pairs swapped between
the ends. This allows two 10BT net cards to be connected back-to-back
without a hub.
    I've seen them in everything from 1 meter to 25 meters or more. It's
totally dependent on what kind of resources you have available in the form
of cable suppliers.
    I will say this: Don't sell yourself short on cable. IMO, the extra bit
of money for Category 5 cable is money well spent.
    You should be able to find them. However, I would also give thought to
investing in the tooling required to make your own as pre-made lengths may
not always fit the bill.
    You don't even need NetWare. Windows for Workgroups and W95 will talk
very well to each other in peer-to-peer using Microsoft's NetBEUI protocol.
    You can download a client for DOS from Microsoft's FTP site (assuming
you have Internet access somewhere).
    For a cheap-and-simple DOS-based net, I would suggest seeing if you can
find an older version of LANTastic on the used market.
    If the cards support IPX, they will have a driver for it.
    Correct, but your other machine or network package must also support
IPX if they're going to be able to see each other.
==Bruce
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