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user: You are replying to Regina Finan about "Re: Punishment".

They wrote:
-> -=> Quoting Jerry Schwartz to Walter Five <=-
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-> JS> [May 26, 97 - 10:12] Walter Five of 1:106/7315 wrote to Bob Moyla
->
-> >>  Welll.... the so called "normal" child might make this abstract
-> >>  association depending on his/her age.  However, the child with
-> >>  ADD/ADHD will not simply because by the time any _punishment_ is
-> >>  meted out the transgression has been forgotten.
->
-> WF> Oh, I heartily DISAGREE. I am an ADHD adult. I *was* an ADHD chil
-> WF> I certainly KNEW what I was getting punished for, and *why*, most
-> WF> time. Usually it felt like an injustice, but doesn't it feel
-> that way for
->
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-> JS> My son will, if questioned, give the right answers to those quest
-> JS> but he doesn't seem able to internalize this knowledge.  He
-> knows it's JS> wrong, he knows he'll get punished, but he does it
-> anyways and doesn't
->  JS> seem to make the connection.  This is very troubling and frustra
-> JS> to me and my wife: the kid is 16, and does a variety of "wrong" t
-> JS> ranging from the bizarre (not bathing or brushing his teeth) to
-> JS> stealing from family members.
-> JS> Jerry Schwartz
->
-> I can relate.  It is very frustrating.  My 12 year old is ADD with LD
-> I have a hard time getting him to understand in cleanliness.  He has
-> a long way though although we thought we had money stealing done with
-> around here I should tell you a story about our last encounter.
->
-> I was missing a 10 dollar bill.  I found this out in a Home Depot
-> when I decided to buy the kids seeds and stuff for our science
-> project on environment.  All three kids insisted nobody took it.  I
-> grounded them all.  Knowing someone had, but not getting straight
-> answers. My husband and I both couldn't believe it as they all sat
-> there in the back seat accusing one another of taking it.  Finally
-> Jeremy (ADHD and my holy terror child) told me he saw Angel (his
-> cat) with the 10 dollars playing with it and hooked to her paw.
-> When we got home they finally found the money in a place I looked
-> and did not find it and of course, no nail hole on the money from
-> the cat.  Now what do you do.  You have no actual proo
-> Needless to say we decided to tease them a little over it and their
-> story, and explain it all over again about taking something that
-> wasn't theirs. Emphasizing God's knowledge of what they did or did
-> not do and leave it at that.  So far so good, but I imagine it may
-> still not quite be over.  Oh, I need to mention that Jeremy had a
-> long talk to his cat about stealing the money <Grin>.  No I dod not
-> believe the cat did it, but it seems that the kids did understand
-> that I knew.  They also knew they really did not get away with it.
->
-> Its hard sometimes when they come up with such good stories not to
-> almost laugh.  And this story was somewhat possible.  Although I
-> think no hole in the money kinda puts a hole in their story. <Grin>
->
-> Regina
->
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assistant: You know I was diagnosed ADD in my mid teens then after I had my Son I
couldn't pull out of it I had once before been diagnosed with Depression
but talked my way out of the meds... The finally diagnosed me with
Bi-Polar disorder which in some cases can appear as ADD! I never knew
why things were so tough for only me untill I woke up one day and
realized that I was the one who had to quit lying to everyone including
myself... So as the kids get older they will grow and understand at
their own rate even thoughs with ADD!!