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system: You are James Hill, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "ACAD R13 Win printing".

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assistant: I have a Pentium 133 with 32megs of RAM DOS 6.22/WFW 3.11 and AutoCAD R13 for
DOS/Windows with the c4 patch, running ACAD in Windows.  The problem I am
having is that my computer is shared with 8 others to an HP Laserjet II p
printer.  Since the upgrade from R12 I can not print.  It seems that ACAD is
trying to print directly to my LPT1 port and DOS/WFW have redirected it to
COM1 for the shared printer.  I have tried just about everything I can think
of to get this to print.  HELP!  I was told by an ACAD Guru that there is a
way to make ACAD R13 for Windows print hardware or software, and I am in
hardware mode.  However I can not find where you would change this in setup.
I think I need it to print software controled so that the print manager in
Windows will pick up my plots.  BTW all my other software in DOS or Windows
prints.
Please post any help here or call my BBS directly at the origin line.
Thanks.
system: You are Steve Good, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "autolisp variable names, converted to st10:19:0206/19/96".

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assistant: How does one convert a variavle name, when stored in another variable, to a
string? For example if a variable of X_val is stored in variable VN,
it can be printed to screen by (prin1 vn) and its value can be acessed
by (setq v (eval vm)) which canbe converted by a (rtos v), but how to get the
string representation of the name, ie an "X_VAL" into a variable for
later handling? Without printing them to a file and redeanging them back in
as strings, that is. Reading them in as strings, is the above.
system: You are Don Bach, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to James Hill about "ACAD R13 Win printing".

They wrote:
JH> I have a Pentium 133 with 32megs of RAM DOS 6.22/WFW 3.11 and AutoCAD
JH> for DOS/Windows with the c4 patch, running ACAD in
JH> Windows.  The problem I am having is that my computer
JH> is shared with 8 others to an HP Laserjet II p printer.
JH>  Since the upgrade from R12 I can not print.  It seems that ACAD is
JH> trying to print directly to my LPT1 port and DOS/WFW
JH> have redirected it to COM1 for the shared printer.

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assistant: Hi, James!
R13
I'm using Win3.1 with Acad R13C3.  On my computer, I've installed the Windows
Printer driver and use it to go to my HP 560C using the Lantastic 5 spooler.
This works really well.  You will need to have the proper driver for your
printer installed in Windows (HP supplies them).
I've gone directly to a Calcomp pen plotter on another computer through the
network, but I don't remember how I did it.
Another way to print is to have the output go to a file and then use a copy
utility to copy it to the port.  You may be able to use the network name as
the file name and have it spooled to the printer.
Hope this helps!
Don
system: You are Floyd Williams, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Macintosh and Autocad??".

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assistant: Is there a version of Autocad that will run on a power mac?
    Thanks,
              Floyd . . .
... nfx v2.9 [C0000] Less Government - More family!!
system: You are Kupia Kumi, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "ACAD13".

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assistant: Anyone Please Help
I just received ACAD13 and everytime I use it ramdonly get a "FATAL
ERROR"
message then, my file locks up and shuts down the application. If you
guys have gotten this error message and found a way to fix it pleas
mail me or if U haven't fix it yet just mail so we can find a way to
figure this out.
                                      anyone....
system: You are James Hill, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Don Bach about "ACAD R13 Win printing".

They wrote:
DB> Hi, James!
JH>> I have a Pentium 133 with 32megs of RAM DOS 6.22/WFW 3.11
JH>> and AutoCAD R13 for DOS/Windows with the c4 patch, running
JH>> ACAD in Windows.  The problem I am having is that my
JH>> computer is shared with 8 others to an HP Laserjet II p
JH>> printer.  Since the upgrade from R12 I can not print.  It
JH>> seems that ACAD is trying to print directly to my LPT1 port
JH>> and DOS/WFW have redirected it to COM1 for the shared
JH>> printer.
DB> I'm using Win3.1 with Acad R13C3.  On my computer, I've installed
DB> the Windows Printer driver and use it to go to my HP 560C using
DB> the Lantastic 5 spooler.  This works really well.  You will need
DB> to have the proper driver for your printer installed in Windows
DB> (HP supplies them).
DB> I've gone directly to a Calcomp pen plotter on another computer
DB> through the network, but I don't remember how I did it.
DB> Another way to print is to have the output go to a file and then
DB> use a copy utility to copy it to the port.  You may be able to
DB> use the network name as the file name and have it spooled to the
DB> printer.

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assistant: In a msg on <Jun 18 17:13>, Don Bach of 1:3632/65 writes:
Humm...I must not have explained this well enough...
I have the correct driver for my printer and all Windows software prints to
the printer just fine...the only software that does not is ACAD.  I guess I
should that stated that I am not on a network we are using a printer share
box that runs in serial mode, it has 8 ports and the computers have cables
connected to it and it to the printer.
Humm...Well if I connect the printer directly to the port on this computer it
prints fine, well..most of the time, however sometimes I get error messages
stating the printer is not ready, when it is.  I have tried swapping printers
no luck...I even upgraded the printer to an HP 4 Plus still no luck.
I have plotted to file and it will print if I copy it to the printer from the
DOS prompt, however, that is not the problem...the problem is why doesn't
ACAD use print manager, or print in Windows when, MS-Word, Execl, Quicken,
etc...etc...all work fine?
Thanks for your reply.
system: You are Hannes Luebbers, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Steve Good about "autolisp variable names, converted to st18:30:4206/21/96".

They wrote:
SG> How does one convert a variavle name, when stored in another variable,
SG> string?

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assistant: Hi Steve!
Answering a message of Steve Good:
to a
Beside writing the symbol to a file a re-reading it as text, you may profit
from the 'duality' of the atoms-family, which can return it's contents as
list of strings _or_ list of text.
Add your Symbol to the atoms-family and ...
... to make it all simple:
(defun sym2str ( symbol / _f _s )
  (if (= 'SYM (type symbol))
    (progn
      (if (null (eval symbol))
        (progn
          (set symbol  'T)
          (setq _f  'T)
      ))
      (setq _s (nth (1- (length (member symbol (atoms-family 0))))
               (reverse (atoms-family 1))
      ))
      (if _f (set symbol nil))
      _s
)))
moin, hannes
system: You are Prinzchaz@Aol.Com, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ngavryck@Student.Umass.Edu about "HUMOUR".

They wrote:
>-- The Top 15 Problems Encountered Along The Olympic Torch Route ---
>
>
>15)  Forward progress hampered by slow moving white Bronco.
>
>14)  Torch commandeered in Waco by over-zealous ATF agents.
>
>13)  One 'really' pissed off Smokey The Bear.
>
>12)  Budget cuts cause torch to be replaced by less-than-dependable
>     Bic lighter.
>
>11)  Difficulty getting melted marshmallows off torch after "s'mores"
>     party got out of hand.
>
>10)  Running 7 miles before realizing that the torch is still on top of the
>     urinal at the last rest stop.
>
>9)   First-degree burns to runners unfamiliar with how to "receive the
>     baton".
>
>8)   Jim Bob, lying in wait on the outskirts of Memphis with a case of Bud
>     and a supersoaker.
>
>7)   Rosie Ruiz takes flame in NYC -- appears 30 minutes later in Atlanta.
>
>6)   Drive-by goosings
>
>5)   Torchbearers driven insane by repeated playing of the "Chariots Of
>     Fire" theme.
>
>4)   Torch-jackings in urban areas.
>
>3)   Crazed hippie terrorists replace Olympic Torch with new Olympic
>     Bong.
>
>2)   Male runners repeatedly get lost and refuse to stop for directions.
>
>and the Number 1 Problem Encountered Along The Olympic Torch Route..
>
>1)   Obnoxious drunks who run up and yell, "No, I meant a BUD light!".
>

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assistant: ** Message forwarded by DAMON LEE at 17:16:40 on 06-21-96 **
Thought you might enjoy passing this on to your torch-bearing friend, and
maybe enjoy it yourselves.
[Original Message Follows]
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DAMON.LEE@pcld.com(darrell); Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:43:21 -0400
                      ,,,
                    (oo)
system: You are James Hill, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Floyd Williams about "Macintosh and Autocad??".

They wrote:
FW> Is there a version of Autocad that will run on a power mac?
FW>     Thanks,
FW>               Floyd . . .
FW>

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assistant: In a msg on <Jun 20 16:42>, Floyd Williams of 1:3625/500 writes:
Yes if you run UNIX on your RISC processor.
system: You are Scott Holland, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "R13c4 DOS "Stack Exceptio".

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assistant: I just upgraded to R13c4 for DOS and am receiving the following
messages randomly on certain computers:
FATAL ERROR:  Stack Exception (at 0F:2F9402)
   and/or
Fatal Error TNT.10049: Out of stack buffers, CS:EIP are in error values:
Err values = 0000000Fh 009C3FD6h
 I've checked the website at Autodesk and have checked with my dealer
but no one has any information on what these messages mean.  I tend to
believe it's hardware related since it happens consistently on two
similar computers.  All computers should have the same configuration but
it is possible that I missed something somewhere.  I've tried working
with the obvious, BUFFERS, STACKS, FILES, etc. to no avail.
 If anyone has any idea what the above messages mean and/or how to
prevent them from occurring I would certainly appreciate a response.  I
have one drawing that appears to have been somewhat corrupted because of
this problem, I'd prefer to not lose anymore.
 Thanks,
 Scott
system: You are Don Bach, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to James Hill about "ACAD R13 Win printing".

They wrote:
JH> I have plotted to file and it will print if I copy it
JH> to the printer from the DOS prompt, however, that is
JH> not the problem...the problem is why doesn't ACAD use
JH> print manager, or print in Windows when, MS-Word,
JH> Execl, Quicken, etc...etc...all work fine?

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assistant: Hi, James!
If you select "Windows System Printer", Acad *will* use the Windows System
Printer and Windows Print Manager.  Are you sure you have the *Windows*
version of Acad installed?  I'll look more at my system for further evidence
to help out.  I think I just installed the "Windows System Printer" from the
add new plotter menu of the config routine.
Don
system: You are Don Bach, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Kupia Kumi about "ACAD13".

They wrote:
kk> I just received ACAD13 and everytime I use it ramdonly get a "FATAL
kk> ERROR"

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assistant: Hello, Kupia!
Please read over the installation notes and readme files very carefully.
Make sure you have at least 16 mbyte of RAM and 32 mbyte of Windows swap
space configured.  Your problem is probably lack of virtual memory to run
Acad.
Hope this helps!
Don
system: You are Glen Cameron, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Scott Holland about "R13c4 DOS "Stack Exceptio".

They wrote:
> it is possible that I missed something somewhere.  I've tried
> workingwith the obvious, BUFFERS, STACKS, FILES, etc. to no avail.
>  If anyone has any idea what the above messages mean and/or how to
> prevent them from occurring I would certainly appreciate a response.

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assistant: Looks like a memory conflict.  Check your video driver - change it
temporarily to a simple SVGA setting to see if the problem goes away or not.
Also check your mouse/tablet drivers.  Also - are you running any third party
addon programs?  C4 is VERY different than C3 was and many of them do not
work properly.
Your dealer has the ability to call Autodesk directly on a 1-800 line to get
the answer for you.  If he does not know then he should call Autodesk for you
to get the answer.
Good luck!
WARDEN BEEB
system: You are Scott Holland, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Glen Cameron about "R13c4 DOS "Stack Exceptio".

They wrote:
GC>Looks like a memory conflict.  Check your video driver - change it
>temporarily to a simple SVGA setting to see if the problem goes away or
>not.  Also check your mouse/tablet drivers.  Also - are you running any
>third party addon programs?  C4 is VERY different than C3 was and many of
>them do not work properly.
GC>Your dealer has the ability to call Autodesk directly on a 1-800 line to
>get the answer for you.  If he does not know then he should call Autodesk
>for you to get the answer.
GC>Good luck!
>WARDEN BEEB

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assistant: That goes along with some of my suspicions.  The video driver may not
be negotiable though.  I have an ATI Mach 64 which is not supported
directly by the Vibrant Graphics driver included with 13, the generic
VESA option does not work, a RETURN key is entered when flipping from
text to graphics throwing me in an endless loop of the last command I
ran. I downloaded the latest version of the ATI driver for R13 (Panacea
Turbo DLD) about three months ago, I will probably check for another
revision. I might also try the SVADI driver included with R12, that's
what we used before. The tablet is a SummaSketch II and I've never been
real comfortable with how this tablet acted in AutoCAD, I might try a
MicroSoft mouse if nothing else works.  We do use Eagle Point, and
have the latest release on order, but the errors occur with straight
AutoCAD as well.
 I heard back from my dealer yesterday.  He had contacted Autodesk
after I spoke with him and was told that a shortage of network buffers
can generate that error.  I'm connected to a Novell file server.
I'm exploring that option right now but raising my buffers for the
network leaves me extremely short on conventional memory.  I'm in the
process of deciding on what to give up in my config.
 Thanks a million, you gave me some other routes in case the buffers
option doesn't work.  If none of the above works rest assured I will be
back. <g>
 Scott
system: You are Axel Cordt, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "ACAD 12 under OS/2".

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assistant: Hallo All,
has anyone ADAD running under OS/2 Warp Connect ?
Tschau
 Axel
system: You are Garry Staup, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Help".

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assistant: I'm running R13c4 for DOS & everytime I boot it up, I automatically get the
Help window.  Does anyone know how to get rid of/disable this?
system: You are James Hill, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Don Bach about "ACAD R13 Win printing".

They wrote:
DB> Hi, James!
JH>> I have plotted to file and it will print if I copy it
JH>> to the printer from the DOS prompt, however, that is
JH>> not the problem...the problem is why doesn't ACAD use
JH>> print manager, or print in Windows when, MS-Word,
JH>> Execl, Quicken, etc...etc...all work fine?
DB> If you select "Windows System Printer", Acad *will* use the
DB> Windows System Printer and Windows Print Manager.  Are you sure
DB> you have the *Windows* version of Acad installed?  I'll look more
DB> at my system for further evidence to help out.  I think I just
DB> installed the "Windows System Printer" from the add new plotter
DB> menu of the config routine.

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assistant: In a msg on <Jun 23 16:55>, Don Bach of 1:3632/65 writes:
Thanks for the tips I will try them right away.  I do have the Windows
version loaded as a matter of fact I only loaded the Windows
version...thanks.  I don't remember trying this so I hope this will do the
trick.
thanks again.
system: You are Scott Holland, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Garry Staup about "Help".

They wrote:
GS>I'm running R13c4 for DOS & everytime I boot it up, I automatically get
>Help window.  Does anyone know how to get rid of/disable this?

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assistant: he
 I had that problem when I configured the Vibrant Graphics display
driver to use the VESA option for my ATI Mach 64 video card as per one
of the "readme" included with AutoCAD.  I don't know that this is your
problem but it might be worth looking at.  I ended up using the Panacea
driver that came with the ATI card.  The latest version can be
downloaded from ATI's web site if you have internet access.
 The problem also showed up when I ran the CONFIG command.  After I had
finished and exited the command the CONFIG command would automatically
be recalled. Apparently a RETURN key was being entered when the graphics
came back.
 It could also be as simple as hitting the RETURN key twice when
entering AutoCAD.  As you may or may not know, the RETURN key recalls
the last command.  When you first enter AutoCAD the RETURN key calls up
the HELP command since there wasn't a previous command.
 Scott
system: You are James Hill, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Don Bach about "ACAD R13 Win printing".

They wrote:
DB> Hi, James!
JH>> I have plotted to file and it will print if I copy it
JH>> to the printer from the DOS prompt, however, that is
JH>> not the problem...the problem is why doesn't ACAD use
JH>> print manager, or print in Windows when, MS-Word,
JH>> Execl, Quicken, etc...etc...all work fine?
DB> If you select "Windows System Printer", Acad *will* use the
DB> Windows System Printer and Windows Print Manager.  Are you sure
DB> you have the *Windows* version of Acad installed?  I'll look more
DB> at my system for further evidence to help out.  I think I just
DB> installed the "Windows System Printer" from the add new plotter
DB> menu of the config routine.

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assistant: In a msg on <Jun 23 16:55>, Don Bach of 1:3632/65 writes:
Thanks for the tip it let AutoCad print however now we are getting out of
memory errors....This does not happen when the printer is connected directly
to the printer....I wonder why.
system: You are Bob Westerman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "ACAD 13 with Softdesk Civil Survey".

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assistant: Hello All!
I seem to remember someone in this echo about six months to a year ago who
was using Acad 12 c3 with the SoftDesk Civil Survey package, but I can't
remember who it was.  What I was wondering is if anyone around here now has
made the upgrade to Acad 13 and is using the SoftDesk package.
If someone is how is it working out for you?  I remember there were alot of
problems with ACAD 13 in the begining, usually with the saveas R12 feature if
I remember correctly.
We're kinda considering making the upgrade in my office, but it's not really
necessary at this point, since none of our clients are using 13, so the
question here is, is the upgrade worth it?  Specifically how much trouble are
we going to have with our existing projects if we try to move them to 13?
And what real advantages will we see in the change, assuming we get past the
learning curve?
Later,
               Bob
system: You are Marc Munzer, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "AutoCAD for Machintosh Viewer Program".

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assistant: The company I work for has a couple of Macs and I am forced to use AutoCAD on
them, rel 10 at that.  They are pretty slow and if I want to see a certain
feature in a drawing I have to load up AutoCAD which takes a while.  I have a
quick view program for DOS which lets me view a file quickly without being
able to edit it.  Does anybody know of any such program for the Mac?
Thanks,
Marc
marc@unixg.ubc.ca
system: You are Paul Wegmann, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Autocad message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to James Hill about "ACAD R13 Win printing".

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assistant: Hello Jim,
Is it possible that your SWITCH BOX is bad? I have seen a tech try to get one
of those things working for over week to find out it wasn't compatible with
AUTOCAD's drivers. This is commonly the problem, incompatibilty. I also use
WFW 3.11 on one of my machines and "AM" on a network but I print to Windows
Spooler through the Network setup. You might try reinstalling the Printer
Driver to see if it prompts you anything different. I'll ask around in the
mean time. Good Luck
Paul
... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 32 days.
... And now, some words of wisdom:
Test. Test. T E S T !!! Is this thing on????