system: You are Mike Freeman, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Visual Disabilit message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Duane Iverson about "MR. MAGOO AND SO".

They wrote:
DI> Now here in sophisticated Fargo, we don't talk that way
DI> (well not much anyway)  but you get
DI> out in to earl Minnesota
DI> especially north of Clay County,  and
DI> they really do talk that way.  And heaven
DI> knows I have seen my share of bumbling
DI> blind people,  I might have even done a
DI> little bumbling myself.
DI> Garrison Keelar makes a good living on his Prairie Home
DI> Companion and the mythical town of
DI> Lake Woebegone Minnesota exploiting
DI> stereotypes.  The fun they polk in
DI> Fargo is not quite so Gentle.  So the NfB
DI> should lighten up and try and make the
DI> stereotype less and less justified.
DI> Much of early twentieth century Jewish
DI> Humor centered around
DI> the YID with the heavy accent and the
DI> weird customs brought directly from
DI> Poland.  My kids don't get it because
DI> the Modern Jew speaks english better then
DI> many of us from fargo and does not fit
DI> the Stereotypes at all.  Even the
DI> norwegian joke is dying because the
DI> old norwegians we were all making fun of
DI> are going, going, gone.  my kids
DI> identify more with Valley Girls then with Oli
DI> and Lina.  so I'll try and not run in
DI> to too many Obstacles, not forget where I
DI> left  my Glasses, and never mistake a
DI> fire hydrant for a child.  (come to think
DI> of it a guide dog might be useful in
DI> that respect)  Oh Wait a minute, thats a
DI> stereotype of dogs and is unfair.  I
DI> must have offended someone!
DI> A good commercial might have been made about the fuss the
DI> morons out there put up over a guide
DI> dog.  One of the chief discouragers of me
DI> getting a guide dog is that I never
DI> wanted to have to stand the Mannerless
DI> Ayahs asking me if they could pet my
DI> pretty dog every time I went out anywhere.
DI> Levi could make a good Visual of a
DI> guide dog confusing one of these tactless
DI> fools with a fire hydrant.  Since it
DI> would be hard for the dog to tell them
DI> apart by intelligence.

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assistant: On 30 Sep 97 17:31, Duane Iverson wrote:
Some African-americans really do talk like Amos and Andy.  Does
this mean that African-americans should tolerate portrayals like
that of Step-and-fetch-it?
We all have seen them and done some.  I've seen my share of
bumbling sighted people, too.  The question is not whether either
bumbling blind persons or sighted persons exist but rather whether
such behavior is the norm.  Also, even the best blind traveler
does some trial-and-error work.  Many sighted persons do not
understand this and nearly drop their 501's when they see a blind
person make a wrong turn.
Ah; there's the rub.  PHC *is* gentle and there is often a great
deal of wisdom along with the gentle fun.  I doubt Mr. Magoo has
had much wise to say since he sold War Bonds.
Uh, I thought that was/is what we are doing.  Welcome to the
trenches, comrade!
There was one crucial difference:  much of that Jewish humor was
written and performed by Jews for Jews.  The general public didn't
get many of the allusions and references even when those
plays/shows were first performed.
Let me tell you!  exan jokes in New Mexico and, I am sure, New
Mexican jokes in Texas are still very much with us.
Naw, the only time I get offended is when the dogs mistake *me*
for the fire hydrant!
I agree with you there!  But you assume the companies/ad agencies
want to inform the public rather than hype products and services!
Amen.
I've had it happen but, I must hasten to add, it wasn't a guide
dog that perpetrated the deed!
Yup!
Mike Freeman; Internet: mikef@pacifier.com; Amateur Radio Callsign: K7UIJ
President, National Federation of the Blind of Washington
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