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system: You are Bill Wolff, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Lynn Nash about "Popular=bad?".

They wrote:
BW>I wonder how much those
BW>power cords adds to the price of the computer which I never wanted?
> You need a power cord to run your system and there are not any
> substitutes even with direct wiring. You don't need windows and
> there are substitutes. If it is an IBM system you could program
> it with just ROM Basic.
BW>Microsoft has never had any control over your use of DEL, FORMAT, or
BW>whatever. As always, the end user always had a choice since day one.
> I should not have to pay a tax for that privilege unless you
> believe that Microsoft gives away windows. It has a value which
> you are forced to pay for. Even if it is $15, which is not the
> case,
BW>By the way, Microsoft has never operated that way. That's what those
BW>other companies had done, for example, Digital Research. As Gary
BW>Kildall didn't care that most people didn't like doing the copying
BW>backwards from the way they wanted to do it. His belief was that any
BW>halfway intelligent person could master PIP. Of course, he was
BW>right, but the difference between Gary Kildall's DR and Bill Gates'
BW>Microsoft, was attitude. As Bill Gates had let you do it the way you
BW>wanted to. And this difference in attitude was worth 20 million
BW>dollars back then and in abundance more today.
> Maybe the way you wanted to, not the way I wanted to. You seem
> to have a belief that one way is the right way, therefore you
> see nothing wrong with what is happening. Compliancy always
> sets in when the given way is close to one's chosen way.
> Compliancy implies that good enough, is good enough. The logo
> of compliancy is the "Round Tuit". This is the thing that Bill
> Gates understands fully. I prefer choice no matter who is in
> lead position.

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assistant: On (14 Jun 98) Lynn Nash wrote to Bill Wolff...
No, you don't understand. I have a pile of power cords from old CP/M
computers and older PCs. I don't need anymore. But dang, if I buy a
new PC, the dang power cord comes with it. Just another thing that I
don't need. Why isn't the power cord manufacture also seeing the DOJ
for leaving me no choice?
You are free to deal with any manufacture who hasn't signed any
agreement with Microsoft. If there is a big void and nobody can find
any, I'll be more that happy to fill that supply and demand problem.
No, you don't get it. Early versions of MS-DOS supported either the
PIP way or the COPY way. It didn't make any difference. Both worked
under the early MS-DOS versions. Gary's CP/M only worked one way and
to the masses, the wrong way. That difference was attitude, as I
previously stated.
Bill Wolff
http://members.aol.com/wolffsoft/index.htm
wolfsoft@gtwychgo.com (preferred) or BillW50@aol.com
system: You are Todd Johnson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Howard Brazee about "Popular=Bad?          1/".

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assistant: The government is going after Microsoft because they bully people around, and
quite frankly get away with it on a consistent basis.  Microsoft deserves to
be harrassed..  The governement won't convict them of anything, and Microsoft
knows that, but its to send them a message, you know?
Microsoft should be allowed to bundle its browser with its OS.  Nobody cried
when IBM bundled Web Explorer with OS/2, did they? :)  Its semi-debatable
whether its wrong for Win98 to conviently disallow any other web browsers...
putting a freaking browser in each folder is what they do -- they immbed it
into the GUI, which just makes it more bloated, and "a part of the OS", to
gain market share.  But, I stand back and laugh... let people whine about how
Microsoft has wiped out PIM's, now soon the Broswer market, and upcoming the
office market... If you own the OS, you can will your way to taking over the
market on any software category... and since everyone was so appathetica
about letting Microsoft take over the OS market, by not voicing thier
opinions about alternatives a few years back, THEY DESERVE TO HAVE LITTLE
CHOICE IN SOFTWARE... they deserve to choose between Microsoft, Microsoft,
Microsoft, and Adobe, when they buy software.. <smile>  Its not QUITE that
bad.. yet.
Any way, Microsoft has reffered to their own company as a monopoly, and in
internal documents they say ".. we can use our monopoly as leverage, to take
over the browser market.." and ".. Netscape pollution must be erradicated"...
This is called a monopoly.  A PURELY FREE MARKET ECONOMY doesn't work all the
time, which is why we have a mixed economy.. which is why we harass companies
like microsoft when they bully everyone around!  You cant bully Janet Reno!
She's big! :)
system: You are Todd Johnson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Simon Stone about "Linux / Unix".

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assistant: Linux is free.. its a free version of Unix, and in terms of a standalone
computer, at your home, its just as fast as Unix... and fast it is!
Instread of beefing up your processor, Linux will run fine on a low powered
Pentium, with HIGH amounts of RAM, and *QUICK* Disk I/O.  Those two are more
important to it..
Linux is "FREE", but realistically, you shell out about $25-$50 for a CD with
software, and a bit more for extra documentation... all in all, for personal
home use, its CHEAPER than OS/2 & Win95...
However, Linux has other financial perks.. like ALOT of FreeWare! :)
Anyway, If you don't have any use for programs that are DOS and Windows
specific, Linux is probably your best choice.  OS/2 is for those who don't
need Windows 95 specific applications, but still use some DOS or Win3.1/32s
software...
In other words:  Only Use Win95 if you reply on Win95 apps.  Period.
system: You are Justin Baustert, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Ben Granville about "Re: Linux".

They wrote:
BG> Are you guys still mad because MS decided that OS/2 sucked and
BG> dropped it?  (I'm just glad they took out all the OS/2 code in NT
BG> before it was too late...)

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assistant: They didn't take out all the OS/2 code.. I'd include that as part of NT's
saving grace..
JB
system: You are Lynn Nash, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jack Stein about "Re: living os's and almo".

They wrote:
JS>Howard Brazee wrote in a message to Mathieu Bouchard:
MB>Incidentally, on a Sun 118-key keyboard, like the one i'm using most of
MB>the time, there are a few keys labeled: Cut, Copy, Paste, Help, Front,
MB>Open, and they only serve that purpose. It's not like Ctrl-X Ctrl-C
MB>Ctrl-V F1 Alt-Tab Alt-something.
HB> That makes sense.  Of course on the PC we have Pause,
HB> Scroll-Lock, & SysReq keys which don't do anything anymore.
HB> A help key would be better than F1.  An Undo/Redo key would
HB> be nice.
HB> Word Perfect was written on a system which didn't have F1
HB> keys, and was ported from there.  That's why help was F2.
JS>Where did you get that info?  I always thought, and still do, that WP
JS>used funky keys because they didn't want to make it easy to
JS>figure out how to use the app w/o the manual, and because they
JS>were too dumb to know this was against the world standard of F1
JS>being the universal help key, and Esc being the standard method
JS>of backing out of levels of screens.  F3 was the help key btw,
JS>and WP changed their style only after the competition was killing them.

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assistant: As I recall it, could be wrong, WordPerfect code was originally created
as a dedicated word processing system that competed directly with Wang
dedicated word processing systems. F1 was far from universal back then
and was used for many things on computer terminals, like what eventually
became the sys req key on PC's. F1 might be the last key one would pick,
if they were used to programming on one of the many different brands of
mainframes and mini-computers of the day. The PC changed all of that.
Anyway as I heard the story, Wang controlled a substantial part of the
dedicated word processing market.  WordPerfect saw the PC growing in
popularity and then ported their code to the PC looking for a new market.
The keys remained the same because that is what their customers were used
to.  It then went on to take the PC word processing crown away from
WordStar based mostly on superior technical support.  I remember reading
that the entire telephone system in Utah had to be modified to support
the number of calls suddenly coming into the state because of
Wordperfects new found success.  The company then started running ad's
showing their monthly phone bills as an indication of their support
commitment.
In the process they killed both Wordstar and Wang, although Wang as a
brand name survived by cashing in on patent royalities.  Dr. An Wang was
pretty smart I guess and blamed everything on his son who had lead the
company for a while.  The royalities gave them the money to move into
some other markets and make a minor comeback.  I vaguely remember IBM
using them as a poker chip for a while in some gambit.
--Lynn
 * SLMR 2.1a * "Surrender!" You wish to surrender to me? Fine, I accept
system: You are Baden Kudrenecky, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Simon Stone about "Linux / Unix".

They wrote:
SS> Which one is FREEWARE ??? UNIX or LINUX (And yes I do know
SS> there are a lot of other flavours, HP UNIX, DG UNIX SCO-
SS> UNIX e.t.c)

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assistant: Responding to Simon Stone from 1998-06-14 concerning Linux / Unix, on
Os-Debate
Hi Simon:
   Both are/can be freeware.  By GNU Public Licence,
Linux will always be free.  BSD unix is also free for
the x86.
Adios, Baden
baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://www.lionsgate.com/home/baden
Warped on a Hippo
system: You are Todd Johnson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Baden Kudrenecky about "OS/2 vs Linux vs NT/95".

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assistant: I know... and this letter goes out to all of those who think Win95 is a
necessity in homes ...
The same people who tell you that the common home user doesn't NEED OS/2, and
that interface is "too much", and that its for people who know ALOT about
computers, ARE THE SAME PEOPLE who demand that you go out and buy Microsoft
Office 97 tyo write a book report, and Adobe Photoshop re-size, convert type,
and paint pictures.  They are they same people who demand you go out and buy
bloated software... why?  Because they are using it, and alot of other people
are too, and you'll feel safe, warm, and fuzzy inside.
Its been said that on average, users only use 5-20% of an office package's
features... Are these people trying to tell the world that ONLY Windows 95
based office packages give you this ability, and all other packages on other
platforms give you LESS than 5-20% of the options?
OS/2 may not be the best platform for everyone, but neither is Win95.  If you
have some obsecure application that you require to work on alot, and its one
of a kind, and only made for Win95, then use Windows 95, but if you do
household work, reports, internet, research, etc., OS/2 does NOT offer less
productivity in any way.  Period.
system: You are Simon Stone, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to All about "Everyone".

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assistant: Whats-up All!
Thanks to those who replied about my question about LINUX / UNIX costs...
Simon Stone
       Trust me with your life.... But not with your money or wife
                     He Who Dares....Wins !
... Subliminal Tagline:  Send me your computer.
system: You are Allan Anderson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Todd Johnson about "Re: OS/2 vs Linux vs NT/95".

They wrote:
TJ>  I think some people are getting caught up in the whole deal that
TJ>Microsoft forces people to buy Win95, and that OS/2 is for everyone.
TJ>
TJ>First off, I build computers and sell them to various people... I
TJ>offer Win95 and OS/2, and also Linux.  However, I always lean towards
TJ>OS/2 for most people.  When I tell them all about it, especially
TJ>since people have been pretty weary about Microsoft latley, they
TJ>think OS/2 is a GREAT alternative, and are very curious!  However,
TJ>ONE thing stops them usually from using it.  Windows 95 apps.  That
TJ>is why OS/2 is not suceeding in homes across the country, and now its
TJ>becominga problem in the server market.  Give OS/2 WIN32
TJ>capabilities, and it could turn around, and find a much greater niche
TJ>than it had before.Secondly, Microsoft makes people feel warm and
TJ>fuzzy inside.  If they are buying a computer with an Intel chip, and
TJ>getting Windows 95, they feel like they aremaking a "safe" choice...
TJ>eveyrone else is using it, and its proven as being capable in the
TJ>very least.  And this is true.  Combined with this, vendors are
TJ>pressured to go by Microsoft's will (coughCOMPAQcough)... but when it
TJ>comes down toit, they have a stronghold... a HUGE user base, and it
TJ>will take an OS with 95%+ of Win95's major capabilities, and a host
TJ>of NEW, USEFUL advantages in order to dethrone it..!

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assistant: At 12 Jun 98  21:53:48 Todd Johnson wrote to All:
I see a lot of sense in your arguments.  I once used OS/2 exclusively.  When
I switched to Windows 95 it was a bit of a learning curve for me and my
family.  Shortly therafter everything was fine.  I will probably not go back
to OS/2 for the reasons that you stated about apps.
 I run NT 4.0 on my personal machine.  I find it much faster than Win95, and
much more stable.
system: You are R. P. Veraa, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bill Wolff about "Flexibility".

They wrote:
DB> Odd. Netscape on Linux seems to display graphics rather well. Which
DB> Internet browsers were you looking at? Lynx?
BW> I don't know, someone in another echo was talking about how nice
BW> Linux was and how well it handles web pages without graphics. So I
BW> was curious if Linux had any graphic browsers at all.

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assistant: In a message to David Bowerman, Bill Wolff wrote:
More'n likely she was ttalking about a browser called Lynx -- which is
available for Linux, and also for DOS, OS/2, and other OSs.
       Cheers,
           R.
http://www.netside.net/~rveraa/
system: You are Howard Brazee, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Todd Johnson about "Os/2 Vs Linux Vs Nt/95".

They wrote:
TJ>Secondly, Microsoft makes people feel warm and fuzzy inside.  If they are
TJ>buying a computer with an Intel chip, and getting Windows
TJ>95, they feel like they are making a "safe" choice...
TJ>eveyrone else is using it, and its proven as being capable
TJ>in the very least.

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assistant: In a message dated 06-12-98, Todd Johnson said to All:
Which is why we are talking about operating systems on the PC instead of on
the Amiga!
Howard Brazee, Lakewood CO - brazee@compuserve.com
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 * MR/2 * Don't let school interfere with your education.
system: You are Todd Johnson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Allan Anderson about "Re: OS/2 vs Linux vs NT/95".

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assistant: Yeah... NT is very stable, and pretty nice... When playing with it, I found
it to be slower than Win95 somewhat, but smoother -- like when you're doing
alot of tasks, its faster, but in terms of running ONE thing, its a bit
slower...
Anyway, if IBM cared about OS/2, which they dont anymore... I think they
would add WIN32 support... that would gain alot of users, but they dont want
to go after the regular Joes... if they sold it off to another company, OS/2
could have a rebirth... it has some things Linux doesnt have, like good DOS
execution, and WIn16-Win32s application support (not emulated), and a great
interface, along with better hardware support than Linux, usually...
OH well..!
system: You are Todd Johnson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Howard Brazee about "Os/2 Vs Linux Vs Nt/95".

They wrote:
HB> Which is why we are talking about operating systems on
HB> the PC instead of on
HB> the Amiga!

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assistant: Yes, that is true, however, if you use anything else besides WIndows 95, you
mine as well be using an Amiga in opeople's eyes.. they have some respect for
you if you run Linux, because its gaining popularity quickly, but OS/2 is on
a sharp decline -- and IBM isn't doing anything about it...  Could OS?2 be
another CP/M?? :)
system: You are Todd Johnson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bill Wolff about "Linux / Unix".

They wrote:
TJ> and fast it is!
BW> Fast if you fiddle with all of those text configuration files. One
BW> has reported that this had taken them 6 months to do.
BW> A lot of software recommends a Pentium or better.
BW> Funny, I used OS/2 for W31 and DOS programs, but W95 did a far
BW> better job for me.
BW> works for me. It also seems to me that is exactly what other W95
BW> users are using their computers for too.

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assistant: For some people it is a hassle to set up -- and yes, generally, Linux is a
hassle.. however, if you get RedHat Linux, which does cost you money, its all
setup nice and pretty with most of the work done for you -- and if it takes
you six months to set THAT up, much less any more than six hours, you're one
of a few.  And out of the box, Linux absolutley destroys Win95 in speed.
That one is not really debatable.
Yes, in general, you want a Pentium .. FOR ANYTHING... however, if you have a
486Dx/100, with a SCSI hard drive, and 64MB of RAM, it will run AWESOMELY
fast... basically what I'm saying is that processor power is less of a
factor, but disk and memory IS...
It all depends on what you use.  Just becase Win95 runs glorious for you,
doesn't mean anything.  And just because OS/2 is bulletproof for me, doesnt
mean anything, either.  All I hear is how people complain with a smile, about
how thir computer crashes several times a day, when they run Win95... you may
claim that it only happens to FEW people, but I'm sorry, it happens to ALOT
of people running Win95... and interms of DOS/Win31 stuff, OS/2 runs some DOS
stuff than WIn95 cannot, and vice versa.. Win95 is much better at NEW DOS
games, but as far as older ones, I find OS/2 to run them better.  It all
depends...
 Wow, imagine that.  THat's what I do too.. I boot to one OS and get all my
work done... do you think -- DO YOU REALLY THINK that all OS/2 users secretly
boot to a Win95 partition 10 times a day???
system: You are Todd Johnson, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jack Stein about "OS/2 vs Linux vs NT/95".

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assistant: Well, once people started using DOS/Windows, it only made sense to move to
Win95, or to stay with WIn31... why hassle with OS/2 or Linux?  Too many
questions and qierd feelings associated with alternative platforms... onlythe
CURIOUS will possibly switch.. NOW more than ever, people are curious about
non-MS options, and now more than ever, Linux is on the rise... but this
curiosity will pass, its just a phase, as the result of MS making the press
about being a bully, etc.. some real initiative must be done in order to
really shake things up...
system: You are Darrell Salter, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Bill Wolff about "OS/2 Dead debate".

They wrote:
BW> I guess IBM isn't smart enough to figure out that millions are
BW> actually using Windows without problems.
BW> As in my case, every
BW> customer I've set up with Windows don't have problems. I even call
BW> them every few months if I don't hear from them just to make sure.

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assistant: Bill Wolff wrote in a message to Jack Stein:
If you use Windows, you have problems.
As in my case, I remember you from a few years ago, and you're still a
pathological liar.
I own my own company and my business is selling computers and doing custom
hardware and software installation and setup.  I work with Windows and it's
problems daily. When are you going to learn that you just can't bullshit
people and expect them all to believe the lies?  Take a look around, read the
press.  The gig is up, and even some of the most ardent MS fans, are
beginning to realize that MS has been lying and BSing people for years. MS's
true nature has finally been exposed and it's ugly.
Your bullshit wasn't accepted before, and it certainly won't be accepted now.
 Give it up, Bill.
Cheers,
      Darrell
      darrell@sprk.com
system: You are Ben Granville, a caller on a 1990s BBS posting in the Op. Sys Debate message echo. Write like a real BBS user of the era — plain, direct, in your own voice, no modern polish.

user: You are replying to Jack Stein about "Re: DBAT Babble April Part 1 of 1".

They wrote:
JS> Same goes with you calling me dumb because I don't consider LINUX a
JS> commercial product.  You don't know what your talking about, nor seem to
JS> care much if what you say is even close to accurate.  LINUX is freeware,
JS> and not permited to be sold by anyone, anywhere.

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assistant: On Sun 14-Jun-1998 10:25a, Jack Stein said to Ben Granville:
Bzzzt, wrong.  Please check before you waste precious bandwidth.  There are
several (ie Caldera, RedHat) commercial Linux ports on many different
architectures.  Just because it says Linux, doesn't mean it's free...
And, I don't think I ever said you where dumb (you said I was), just very
mis-informed.