If you're asking me Mad Cook, the pickles were discolored and the liquid had receded from the top.  Can't tell you why others would suspect them more.  The applesauce is still on the shelf and to be honest, if mcnerd would try it then I'll likely try it.  He's the most careful canner I know. 

Ah, yes.  I understand now.  The pickles were definitely ready for the compost heap