Table:
text: List of Fighting Talk episodes
Season 2009/10
Season 2009/10
Date_ Presenter Guest_1 Guest_2 Guest_3 Guest_4
24 April Runners` special Colin Murray Kriss Akabusi Roger Black Katharine Merry (debut) Simon Day
1 May Colin Murray John Rawling Nihal Kevin Bridges Tom Watt
3 May Election special Richard Bacon Caroline Flint (debut) ( Labour ) Eric Pickles (debut) ( Conservative ) Edward Davey (debut) ( Lib Dem ) Mark Watson
8 May Colin Murray Andy Parsons Martin Kelner Sue Mott Des Kelly
15 May Colin Murray Greg Brady Ian Stone Steve Bunce Kit Symons (debut)
22 May UEFA CL special Colin Murray Bob Mills Dougie Anderson John Rawling Martin Kelner

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