New old stock - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / beginners

author: Mark65
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 08:11:24 am
content: Hi all,Would you still buy a new old stock Fluke 87v manufactured in 2014, or stay with a new Brymen 869s.Thanks.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 08:21:19 am
content: Fluke 87v last practically forever, so I wouldn't care that it's new old stock.They're an old meter, they've been around forever and are very well trusted.They're worth having but there's newer/better meters available

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 08:22:04 am
content: Is it a good price and was it stored in anything resembling good environmental conditions? If so, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy it. Fluke meters are famous for holding their calibration even after 30 years of use. (My own 87V was bought in 2014 or 2015.)

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 08:23:57 am
content: The main reason not to get an 87V IMHO is that they default to AC amps.So whenever you want to measure DC amps, which is pretty much all the time in electronics, you have to also hit the button to change the amps back to DC.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 08:24:02 am
content: Fluke probably will last longer on very heavy use but in regards of functionality it's worse than Brymen. I see no good reason to change existing meter.

author: Mark65
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 09:38:31 am
content: Thanks everyone, there's a couple for around£265, will probably stay with the Brymen.

author: AVGresponding
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 09:50:18 am
content: I find the question confusing. Why not have both? Two meters is often considered a bare minimum in any case.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 09:52:48 am
content: Quote from: Mark65 on September 24, 2023, 09:38:31 amOh. I kinda assumed you meant getting the 87V in addition to it. You can never have too many meters…

author: Mark65
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 02:35:45 pm
content: Yes it seems to be addictive even though i only use them occasionally

author: BeBuLamar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2023, 02:57:08 pm
content: I don't think Fluke made improvements on the 87V so new old stock is fine if you get good discount. Besides if something goes wrong the 87V is warranted. But of course you may want to keep using your Brymen.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2023, 01:27:40 am
content: Quote from: BeBuLamar on September 24, 2023, 02:57:08 pmThere was the issue with GSM phone interference causing them to freeze or something, and I know that later revisions protected against this. But that was already fixed by 2014:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/fluke-87v-87-5-87-v-gsm-interference-fluke-says-firmware-flash-fixes-it/

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2023, 01:29:11 am
content: Quote from: Mark65 on September 24, 2023, 02:35:45 pmYeah, but when you need to measure a few things at once, it’s invaluable. My 87V remains my most trustworthy handheld meter.

author: EPAIII
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2023, 03:35:04 am
content: $$$?Same price?Or what?

author: Doctorandus_P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2023, 08:50:20 pm
content: Even if the fluke was half the price of the Brymen, I would still buy the Brymen.First, the Brymen beeps at you when the probes are in the current jack while the range switch is in a non corresponding range.Second, I don't want to sponsor the fluke brand by buying their stuff.Third. I really want the serial output of the Brymen for datalogging and as part of an automated measurement setup. (I don't have room for a 40 cm deep desktop DMM).

author: u666sa
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2023, 09:28:22 pm
content: It's an old meter in terms of technology, there are much better none fluke meters out there. So the answer is no, don't get it. Waste of money. Get a logging UT181A, it will nicely complement your top of the line Brymen.Besides, who to say that it is an original fluke and not a good chinese copy. I've checked right now, you can get them no problem here, about $500 on ali. Waste of money!

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 26, 2023, 09:46:03 pm
content: Quote from: u666sa on September 26, 2023, 09:28:22 pmWhy do you think they are a copy? It's a price of a real meter. You'd probably get refurbished in new enclosure at worst. For example low end Fluke 15B+/17B+ coming from China are real Fluke.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2023, 09:48:55 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on September 26, 2023, 09:46:03 pmAFAIK, they're new, not fake and not a deal.https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805824129346.html

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2023, 03:29:24 am
content: On the electronics bench a Brymen BM869s. Onsite if I didn't need all those features the Fluke 87V. Getting one of each doesn't make sense to me, two Brymen BM869s would be my goal.The Fluke 87V is a good baseline for the bench, it's just not the same flexibility and no dual display. The natural progression is to expand later to a couple of bench/lab meters. With these and an oscilloscope/handheld oscilloscope and software I think it surpasses the need for graphing type handheld meters all together on the bench. There is also the rats nest of cables you have to consider eventually, all wireless data logging isn't ideal either.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 27, 2023, 06:09:10 am
content: Quote from: Mark65 on September 24, 2023, 02:35:45 pmHere at the EEVblog, the number of multimeters one has is not a matter of shame - but rather a point of pride.The addiction is real.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2023, 05:55:22 pm
content: Quote from: Doctorandus_P on September 26, 2023, 08:50:20 pmSo does the Fluke 87 (all versions).

author: armandine2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2023, 06:32:12 pm
content: Quote from: Mark65 on September 24, 2023, 08:11:24 amI've posted before on this forum about buying old "new Stock" - my Kyoritsu KEW 1052 was sold as new but had a >7year old certificate with it.No complaints, it's a nice meter, one of my favourites