Marty and Doc were disappointed in our future - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2015, 07:00:46 pm
content: Hopefully those outside the US can see this video. Marty and Doc make an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel's show.

author: trophosphere
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2015, 09:45:53 pm
content: I watched the video on my handheld super computer while sitting on my toilet.

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 25, 2015, 10:01:21 pm
content: That was funny as hell and true.I am disappointed with the future also, it really has turned out to suck deeply.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 12:05:24 am
content: Funny? Rather boring...I hit the stop button half way.I just can't decide which one is the biggest miracle to be on stage: the Delorean, Michael J Fox or Christopher Lloyd.

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 12:19:35 am
content: Quote from: trophosphere on October 25, 2015, 09:45:53 pmIt's the American way! 'Merica!

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 12:30:35 am
content: Quote from: AF6LJ on October 25, 2015, 10:01:21 pmFunny I shall say the future is way cooler then I ever though it could be. I'm just glad I was around sense 1947 to see all that has happened.

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 12:34:27 am
content: Quote from: retrolefty on October 26, 2015, 12:30:35 amYou haven't around that much longer than I have, and all I can say is personal freedom has sunk to new lows. in my lifetime.This is what really sucks.I would rather be deeper in poverty and free than where I am today.And that is the GOD's Truth.EDIT:But I understand that most people even in the US haven't the slightest idea what freedom is all about, they are too addicted to their shiny little toys that keep them playing Angry Birds or the latest first person shooter, that is their life here in what was once one of the super powers of this planet.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 12:48:51 am
content: Quote from: AF6LJ on October 26, 2015, 12:34:27 am

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 12:50:12 am
content: Quote from: AF6LJ on October 26, 2015, 12:34:27 amThat is mostly just your personal ideology, everyone has one, even me I guess. While I'm not a history guru I have studied/enjoyed some and I can't think of a better era to have been born then when I have, maybe unless I could back as King somewhere.

author: Mechanical Menace
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 12:54:43 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on October 26, 2015, 12:48:51 am

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 01:05:12 am
content: Quote from: retrolefty on October 26, 2015, 12:50:12 amYou are right about that; we all have our own idea of what a better world.Me;I see all this stuff as a big distraction to keep our eyes off who is or wants to run our respective countries. I am more of a "the people should be involved, really involved in running their town, country, etc..."You are right about one thing, those shiny toys are cery cool to an extent.The "Super computer in your pocket" and being able to answer phone calls on your wrist like Dick Tracy, I can be hard put to say it gets better than that, but I think it does when you take part in making your own community a better place.But ask yourself this;What do you really have when all you are doing is chasing after the newest iPhone or left for dead 27 in the series of first person shooters, how has your life been enriched, or how have you learned anything really new or profound?The real valuable things in life are not material, they are temporal and spiritual, it is through those that we grow.My Buck-Fifty.....May you live a peaceful and prosperous life, and go into the next world with knowledge you could have not gained any other way, except by living the human experience.

author: Mechanical Menace
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 02:44:46 am
content: Quote from: AF6LJ on October 26, 2015, 01:05:12 amDefine temporal and spiritual as you mean them here. I thought temporal was material, the real, things that can be tested and confirmed and spiritual was things that can't...

author: Stupid Beard
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 03:45:25 am
content: I know the following rant is somewhat trivial, but it has been annoying the hell out of me today and seemed appropriate for this thread.Using an electric stove in 1985:Turn the knob to desired settingTime taken is pretty much instantUsing an electric stove in 2015:Press pointless capacitive touch power buttonPress it againLick fingerPress it againSet desired setting by pressing a different capacitive touch button many times, with same issues of missed touchesYou could "hold" it down, but the auto repeat is so fucking slow it is not worth itTime taken is ... well I don't know, but it takes vastly longer than a knob and leaves you swearing afterwardsStove bonus rant:If you try and set more than one hob at the same time, it can't read the button presses so it just beeps at you. If you spill something on the capacitive touch buttons, which happens all the time because they're right by the hob, it will get really angry and flash E on all 4 hobs. The only way to clear that is to turn it off and on again and then manually reset every hob to how you had it. Which takes ages.Weighing ingredients in 1985:Put empty thing on scalesAdjust little dial to zero the scalesPut stuff in thingRead weightWeighing ingredients in 2015:Press stupid fucking capacitive touch buttonPress it again (x3)Lick fingerPress it againAnd againTake batteries outPut them back in (Since the shitty thing defaults to being on, this is the more reliable way to turn it on)Put empty bowl or something on the scalesPress the stupid fucking capacitive touch button (the same one as 'power')Note that the stupid scales thinks you are weighing something because the weight display increases instead of it operating the buttonLick finger againCarefully touch the stupid fucking capacitive touch buttonGive up getting it to zero and do the math in your headTo turn it off you can go through the above manipulations again, or you can just wait for the auto power off to do it for you.Using an old microwave (don't know year):Put stuff inside itTurn power dialTurn cooking time dialWait for it to pingUsing a microwave in 2015:My mum just got a new one. I seriously don't know how to set the fucking cooking time on it. If the user has to read the manual to set the cooking time and power level on a microwave, then you have FAILED as a product designer. At least it doesn't have capacitive touch.Apologies for any swearing; I tried to keep it down but I just spent the last 3 hours listening to Kevin Bloody Wilson and I swear a lot at the best of times.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 03:57:25 am
content: Quote from: Stupid Beard on October 26, 2015, 03:45:25 amJust look at the bright side will ya, at least in 2015 now you have a puffy, moist fingers.

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 04:04:44 am
content: Quote from: Mechanical Menace on October 26, 2015, 02:44:46 amYou are right I chose the wrong word.Those things that are of highest value are your relationships with those around you..That is what I meant to say first. The second thing shouldn't require much of an explanation, your relationship with the Universe might be a way of summing up Spiritual things.

author: Mechanical Menace
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 04:46:46 am
content: Quote from: AF6LJ on October 26, 2015, 04:04:44 amYou see that's the problem, it does need explanation because everyone who uses the word refuses to properly define it. I don't care what it might mean, I want to know what itdoesmean in that context with no room for interpretation.But alas I doubt I'll ever get a proper answer to that. And if I do everyone else will disagree that's what it is lol

author: calexanian
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 06:05:18 am
content: Its amazing how well Michael J. Fox is doing with his Parkinson. Christopher Loyd is sure getting old. He really had difficulty talking. What is it about some men really loosing their voices?

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 06:07:02 am
content: Quote from: calexanian on October 26, 2015, 06:05:18 amI'm guessing he had a minor stroke that affected his speech capability, my grandma experienced the same symptom after she had it.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 09:32:39 am
content: Quote from: Stupid Beard on October 26, 2015, 03:45:25 amWhen I refitted our kitchen I specifically bought an electric stove with knobs for just that reason! The electric stoves with the 'buttons' suck big time and I really don't understand why they are so popular.

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 05:14:41 pm
content: The nice Kitchenaid electric stove with convection oven we have has knobs for the 4 burners and warmer but all touch buttons for oven operation. Thankfully, they all operate with one touch and without need to moisten fingers.Just for the record, I didn't have to read the manual on how to use it, very intuitive

author: ruffy91
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 08:46:45 pm
content: 4 good rotary knobs cost 40$. A PCB with x buttons costs 5$. Figure it out...

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 09:14:26 pm
content: I remember imagining the future might be like when I was a kid in the sixties and seventies. I have to say I'm highly disappointed in what actually came to be. Funny, it all seemed to be going fine up until about 20 or so years ago. It's not that it's all that bad, just kind of...blah.

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 10:03:40 pm
content: Quote from: rdl on October 26, 2015, 09:14:26 pmI never thought I was going to be living in a police state in the future, but I am.And that really does Suck.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 10:10:07 pm
content: Quote from: AF6LJ on October 26, 2015, 10:03:40 pmOfftopic: Oliver Stone made an interesting 10 part documentary of how the US became what it is today from WWII and the cold war (Oliver Stones Untold History Of The United States).

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 26, 2015, 11:44:12 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on October 26, 2015, 10:10:07 pmYup.

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2015, 08:18:45 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on October 26, 2015, 03:57:25 am*licks fingers* mmmm

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2015, 08:47:16 am
content: Quote from: AF6LJ on October 26, 2015, 10:03:40 pmHmm I wasn't there at the time and I'm not a US citizen but from what I gather the US is more free nowadays than it was back in the 50s when thanks to MCarthyism anyone who disagreed with the governments right wing agenda was be branded a communist and purged from political life.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 01:02:53 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on October 27, 2015, 08:47:16 amThat whole situation was overblown because a few in Hollywood got but hurt over being called communist, even though they were. Now they just call the commies Neo-conservatives.These days in some parts of the country, you can loose your job for bringing your lunch in a brown bag.http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/02/seattle-officials-call-for-ban-on-potentially-offensive-language/Other parts of the country are trying to do away with the words mother and father in documents.http://www.wnd.com/2007/10/44009/Government agencies have been doing a lot of parallel construction in order to eves drop on phone conversations Google Stingray,And what in the world does the Social Security Administration and the Department of Education need with all these bullets???http://www.infowars.com/social-security-administration-to-purchase-174-thousand-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/http://www.examiner.com/article/more-federal-agencies-buy-multithousands-of-rounds-of-ammoLike I said the future sucks.Welcome to the brave new world.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 02:19:33 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on October 27, 2015, 08:47:16 amWhat is the difference with today when people who not agree with demographic agenda are labeled racist or homofobs ?

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 05:35:49 pm
content: All I know is that the sales of tinfoil hats has skyrocketed sense my youth.

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 06:15:14 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on October 27, 2015, 08:47:16 amre: "but from what I gather the US is more free nowadays than it was back in the 50s"Every law on the book, and every regulation on the federal registry describe something a person cannot do or something a person must do. Let's reiterate that point: Something a person cannot do even if the person wants to do it, or something a person must do even if you don't want to do it.When you can't do things you used to do, or must do things you don't want to do, you have lost your freedom. Judging from the numbers of new laws and new regulations, we have lost our freedom big time. Tens of thousands of new regulations/laws published in the last few years alone. Bare in mind, even just the subset of rules targeted at "corporations" are targeting people. Corporations are just people (stock owners) grouped together to conduct business.re: "thanks to MCarthyism anyone who disagreed with the governments right wing agenda was be branded a communist and purged from political life..."As prior replies already pointed out it was an exaggerated claim by Hollywood, I will not expand on that. However, I want to point out that the voters do the voting.Voters can elect someone, or elect someone-else instead. Evena convicted felon who lost his/her voting rights can run for political office- not all political offices as some has additional rules such as minimum age or citizenship. That the general public wants to vote for a communist or not is up to them.For example, Washington DC Mayor Marion Barry (RIP) was convicted on drug charges, served time in prison, and upon release ran again and served again as Mayor of Washington DC and then served at City Council.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Barry#1994_mayoral_electionTo "purge" someone from office requires impeachment.For example, what recently has happened is the government using the tax authority to suppress political opposition. Just the past Tuesday, House Oversight Committee Chairman introduced article of impeachment to begin the process of impeachment against IRS (tax authority) Commissioner John Koskinen.To "purge" someone from office requires impeachment.But there was not a single impeachment by Joe McCarthy's hearing on record.Source for above example:http://www.wsj.com/articles/impeachment-at-the-irs-1446031100From above link: House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz introduced articles of impeachment on Tuesday against IRS Commissioner John Koskinen. A Journal editorial notes that “Mr. Koskinen was not at the IRS during the targeting” of conservative organizations, but he “has become the single greatest hurdle to public accountability. He was touted as a reformer in his 2013 confirmation hearings. Instead he has helped the Administration stonewall Congress’s investigation.”

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 07:15:23 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on October 28, 2015, 02:19:33 pmTruthfully it has become much worse than in the fifties.Even worse than the sixties.But those of us who read Orwell, and Huxley as children could see it coming by the time we were in our early twenties.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 08:45:56 pm
content: (well, somewhat back to the original topic)A modern large flat screen TV takes the same time or longer than a vaccuum tube based one.To watch a movie on your DVD or Blu-Ray player you will have to wait a lot longer than a VCR (and patiently look at idiotic regulatory screens from the FBI and others).However, you can access your files, play movies and such from anywhere in the world!

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 09:10:33 pm
content: I'm not sure which boots up slower, my TV or the computer attached to it. I'll have to check that out. Rarely is either turned off though. I haven't used a stand alone disc player in over 5 years. Everything is on a hard drive. A movie or music album can be playing in less time than it used to take to find the disc.

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 09:12:31 pm
content: Quote from: BravoV on October 26, 2015, 12:48:51 amThis is the actual Zombie Apocalypse.

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 11:34:01 pm
content: Quote from: AF6LJ on October 28, 2015, 09:12:31 pmSmart phone, dumb people...

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2015, 12:40:58 am
content: But that's a fake quote because of course technology allows us to be more informed, and for all you know, those girls could be reading the eevblog forum because a lot of us are addicted to what goes on in the forum.But I'm getting better, I don't have to read every post anymoreBut I like where we are at compared to 1985. Come to think about it I think plane tickets are cheaper than back then plus we make more money. Housing and other things are more expensive but a lot of basic things are still at a similar price, so in essence they are cheaper.I don't know, I guess I don't find the present that terrible.

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2015, 02:17:03 am
content: Quote from: miguelvp on October 29, 2015, 12:40:58 am

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 29, 2015, 03:14:32 am
content: Quote from: miguelvp on October 29, 2015, 12:40:58 amI don't buy the more informed angle, maybe just as informed...More information, more propaganda, bullshit, and lies today.Huh!Those girls reading EEV Blog or anything that requires mental processing, NUPE I really don't think so...QuoteWell lets see..Affordable housing here in the states is further out of reach than it was in 1985.In Eighty Five I was making good money as a production tech hand tuning microwave amplifiers and transmitters.I had a 401K that was growing like a wildfire, and I had killer workstation at home.We had not heard that big sucking sound yet, Some of you know what I am talking about.Oh and....I still looked good in a swimsuit.