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author: Teichhermelin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2021, 04:29:22 pm
content: Item is in good Condition!Imagine 320 euros! Shipping for Germany is 8 euros.Within europe you have to look individually

author: S. Petrukhin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2021, 11:57:06 pm
content: beautifully...

author: itsbiodiversity
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2021, 11:33:05 pm
content: That is mint! Should sell quick.

author: tomeo.gonzales
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2021, 08:49:45 pm
content: What are the shipping costs to Romania?Do you accept PayPal?

author: Hydron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2021, 08:56:38 pm
content: I've be interested but there are big questions as to how VAT on imports from private EU sales like this work post-brexit - I don't really want to need to pay 20% extra than a week and a half ago.Is a fucking mess, they have made made ebay etc charge VAT to the buyer (and zero-rate it for the seller), but outside of ebay etc businesses need to register for UK VAT and file returns (i.e. spend a lot of extra time and money), and it's totally unclear as to how private sales workThe fuckers who got us in this mess should be sentenced to a lifetime of reading HMRC regulations.

author: Teichhermelin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2021, 11:19:26 am
content: ...sold

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2021, 11:57:59 am
content: Quote from: Hydron on January 09, 2021, 08:56:38 pmIf it is a private sale (i.e. not buying from a store), I would expect there is no VAT to be dealt with at all, the same as before.eBay isn't a good example there - they collect VAT because that's not really a private seller as such, they are taking a cut and acting as an intermediary, so they have to remit VAT to wherever they are domiciled (I think for EU they were in Luxembourg).You will likely still have to pay customs when the item arrives, though.

author: 0xdeadbeef
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2021, 12:17:42 pm
content: There is no VAT for private sales within the European Union, but as soon as you import something from outside the EU (no matter if it's commercial, even if it's a gift), you need to pay import sales tax (in addition to other taxes depending on the product) at least if the value is > 45€ (even below 45€ there are exceptions for things like coffee even within the EU). There is a simplified 17.5% tax possible for values between 45€ and 700€.At least that's thecurrent situation for Germany. Might slightly differ in other European countries and I dunno if anybody knows for the (currently still) UK.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2021, 11:11:01 pm
content: Seems to be correct. Aliexpress has just started adding VAT to all sales (with an apologetic message that it's down to HMRC), whereas before Brexit there was nothing on top at all.

author: Hydron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2021, 08:56:12 am
content: Sadly it seems that this will kill C2C (/small-business2C) EU-UK sales (UK buyers on the hook for 20% extra and customs fees on top), just B2C/B2B left, and even then a lot of companies are now not selling to the UK because it's now more difficult and expensive due to the VAT registration requirementsI now want to know how customs can tell what has VAT pre-paid and what hasn't - if a seller doesn't ship via eBay GSP or something do you then get done for VAT a second time at the border?