Ebay Special.... Brymen BM817 (mislabeled as BM87)....  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 14, 2017, 11:39:54 pm
content: Dunno if there's any shady business since the picture clearly shows BM817. Says it's working. It's only $69.95USD buy it now with a "make offer". I don't really need another meter and he didn't take my offer of $10. Just passing along..http://www.ebay.com/itm/391692993979?_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2017, 12:54:04 am
content: Looks like a normal listing to me. Just a typo with the model number. Unfortunately, the seller's rating is way too low -- skip.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2017, 04:04:11 am
content: Yes, it does seem weird or unduly harsh to characterize 96.1% as poor. Intuitively, it would be perceived as a good rating. However, from reading many eBay experiences over the years and correlating some of my own, a rating below approximately 99.5% - 99.7% is a warning sign. Of course, a seller who hasn't sold much and received one bad feedback will result in a pretty harsh hit to their rating. So, the number is just one indicator and the whole profile must be taken into account when evaluating a seller.Another thing to keep in mind is that this seller quality threshold is not applicable globally. It is impacted by other factors such as the location of the seller vs. that of the buyer. For example, many sellers in Asia have ratings between 90% - 99% and I've had no bad experiences with them. Reviewing the written feedback often reveals that the bulk of complaints are due to shipping delays, items lost in transit, or language barriers resulting in poor customer relations. Thus, it's important to assemble a complete picture of a seller's profile to arrive at a reasonably accurate conclusion.

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2017, 04:07:58 am
content: Quote from: Smokey on May 14, 2017, 11:39:54 pmWow, $10 is really low ball. I don't have time to research exact how much discount he would take, but for $50 USD + free shipping and assuming the HRC fuses are good, this would EASILY win any $50 multimeter shootout.I got one similar to this but as a Greenlee with two blown fuses from the seller for $20 USD. Seller argued that fuses were good because the meter turns on. I gave up arguing with seller seeing it was pointless.

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2017, 04:50:55 am
content: Quote from: retiredcaps on May 15, 2017, 04:07:58 amThe 10 dollar thing wasn't a "real" offer. Didn't expect him to take it. Doesn't hurt to try. I thought 50 bucks was a pretty damn good deal too. Why I passed it along.

author: P90
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2017, 06:37:13 am
content: i offered 20

author: Harb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2017, 06:52:28 am
content: Quote from: bitseeker on May 15, 2017, 12:54:04 amActually given the amount of sales he has done thats a pretty good number.........if it was 96% on 50 points that would be a worry........you will find most of his down marks will be trivial.....sadly a lot of people whinge about not much.......but Ebay is always the same.....nothing is 100%, but thats why its cheap usually

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2017, 06:53:22 am
content: Hah. Lets flood the guy with lowballs. He will think its worth less and sell low!Apart from the hassle of resolving the conflict, doesn't the combination of ebay and paypal buyer protection make it really hard to actually get ripped off as a buyer these days?

author: BMack
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2017, 02:19:09 pm
content: Quote from: Smokey on May 15, 2017, 06:53:22 amAs someone that sold a lot of stuff on eBay, it's ALL protection on the buyer. I stopped selling parts because people would use me to troubleshoot their TV. They get the power supply in and it didn't fix their TV, they claim it doesn't work. Nothing I can do but accept a return or let them keep the part and paypal take the money from me. Then I turn around and sell or use the part that magically started working again.I'd take a shot at it but I have ten DMMs already.

author: Decapitator
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2017, 07:00:48 am
content: Quote from: Smokey on May 15, 2017, 06:53:22 amYour plan is might be working. The seller has reduced the price 33% to $46.87 bin or Best Offer.

author: The Doktor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2017, 12:08:03 pm
content: Just bought it for $40, shipping included.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2017, 09:23:52 pm
content: Cool. Looking forward to hearing how it turns out, Dok.

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2017, 11:29:54 pm
content: Quote from: The Doktor on May 16, 2017, 12:08:03 pm$40 is a good price for this quality meter.

author: P90
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2017, 01:02:02 am
content: Quote from: retiredcaps on May 16, 2017, 11:29:54 pmassuming it works and the guy didn't take a bbq sparker to it...

author: The Doktor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2017, 08:10:23 pm
content: Didn't end well. No delivery after 2 weeks. Filed a complaint and 2 days later seller gives full refund. Complete dickhead, why accept the offer and not deliver. Meter was relisted (as BM87, again).Ed

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2017, 08:15:48 pm
content: Quote from: The Doktor on June 02, 2017, 08:10:23 pmSold for $70. I guess your experience is why his rating is relatively poor.

author: P90
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2017, 12:40:31 am
content: Quote from: The Doktor on June 02, 2017, 08:10:23 pmwhat a wanker seller.I'm going tp send the seller a message letting him know that was a dick move... lol

author: casinada
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2017, 05:29:38 am
content: Probably he lurks the EEVblog as well