Starliner launch - Page 1
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author: Doom-the-Squirrel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2019, 05:35:35 pm
content: Anyone else looking forward to the launch of the Boeing Starliner?Any thoughts on this new mission and spacecraft?Here's a link to United Launch Alliance's update page.https://www.ulalaunch.com/missions/atlas-v-oftIncidentally, I know the Falcon 9 is all the rage, but I'm still a fan of the Atlas V.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 07:42:43 am
content: I guess Elon Musk and his SpaceX team are the only ones pleased with the outcome...

author: German_EE
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 10:02:11 am
content: Millions of dollars in costs to get the thing into orbit and they screw up the software again. Plus the good folk in the ISS don't get their Christmas presents.The coverage on NASA TV was a disaster as well as the signals kept on dropping out so they had to fall back on launch pad cameras and leave the presenters with nothing to do.Not impressed. Musk may be an idiot at times but SpaceX are much better at this sort of thing.

author: chris_leyson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 12:02:17 pm
content: According to the post launch press conference they reckon that the mission timer was off and instead of doing an orbital insertion burn Starliner was busy wasting fuel doing attitude correction burns. When mission control spotted the problem Starliner lost comms with the TDRS satellite and had to wait several mintes to get a link to the next TDRS satellite. Maybe if they hadn't lost the TDRS link mission control could have acted sooner and got Starliner to perform the insertion burn.Starliner is due to land at White Sands New Mexico 07.57 AM local time 12.57 GMT,not expecting any live coveragegiven that the launch coverage was terrible. Hope re-entry and landing goes OK for them.NASA live streamhttps://youtu.be/21X5lGlDOfg

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 12:06:32 pm
content: Quote from: German_EE on December 22, 2019, 10:02:11 amIt's not as if it's rocket science ... oh ... wait.

author: iMo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 12:11:47 pm
content: There is a live coverage at NASA page. Deorbit burn in 14minutes..PS: hopefully, their software knows they have 270kg of Christmas gifts still on board

author: Black Phoenix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 01:34:50 pm
content: Yup successful landing at least... Now ask SpaceX to sent the presents and show how stuff is done!Just kidding, the biggest amount of respect for Boeing and SpaceX for keep trying and innovate into the new frontier.

author: StillTrying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 02:00:33 pm
content: Is this the first time a failed non-human payload has been recovered without damage, by anyone.

author: iMo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 02:09:51 pm
content: NASA is back in 60ties again..

author: StillTrying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 02:37:22 pm
content: Quote from: imo on December 22, 2019, 02:09:51 pmNo, in the 60s they could launch people, now they can't.

author: chris_leyson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2019, 04:49:32 pm
content: The autonomous flight control computers got the capsule down safely and it was the first successful land touchdown for a US built capsule so that bit of the flight control software worked out OK. At the post launch press coference it was implied that if there were astronauts abord then they could have fixed the orbital insertion burn problem. But what if the thrust control systems had gone berserk during re-entry then what ?.On the two recent 737 MAX disasters there were pilots abord and they couldn't fix the autonomous flight control problems but then they don't get as much training as astronauts. Just saying.First maned flight of either Starliner or Dragon scheduled for early 2020, which would you fly with ?

author: iMo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2019, 07:43:41 pm
content: https://www.space.com/boeing-ceo-muilenburg-resigns.html

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2019, 09:02:20 pm
content: Quote from: chris_leyson on December 22, 2019, 12:02:17 pmOh dear, ^^^ that's 12 hours of pure rubbish! That's what you get for 20 billion dollars a year? Does it take 17336 employees to do that?Now they can't take men to the ISS, yesteryear they could put them on the moon and more than once. Can't even make proper videos anymore for God's sake! And BTW, why are them all smiling all the time for no reason, like fools? What a bunch of weirdos...Sorry US of A guys, but you should ask your moneys back.

author: maginnovision
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2019, 11:17:27 pm
content: 64$ a year? That's fine. Also I have multiple family members working for JPL which works closely with NASA so I'd rather they still have jobs. Made it to mars alright. The helicopter will probably make it too.

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2019, 04:19:40 am
content: I wonder if they just upload the Max8 software for the deorbit sequence.

author: Doom-the-Squirrel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2019, 02:02:54 am
content: Quote from: Red Squirrel on December 24, 2019, 04:19:40 amD'oh!I think Boeing will fix this problem and light their candle again.After all, SpaceX took a while to get their act together as well.At least we got the spacecraft back in one piece.SpaceX had a functional spacecraft (or rocket, rather) blow up (no matter what spin Musk tried to put on it).

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2019, 03:16:41 pm
content: Quote from: 3roomlab on December 25, 2019, 05:53:54 amJust follow the "campaign contributions", along with the mysterious piles of cash deposited into numbered accounts in Greater Caymans banks, and you will know the reason why.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2019, 04:08:59 pm
content: Boeing has SJW-disease, aka 'old white male engineers are eeeeevil and must be expunged' syndrome. With results like the 737-Max fatal fiasco, reports from Boeing factories of terrible workmanship and morale, and the new 777X airframe that ruptured during a pressure test in Sept this year. A pattern one suspects is related to the Starliner software screwup.It will take Boeing a while longer to completely collapse and cease to exist, but failing a revolution in their management strata, they will. Already hemorrhaging cash due to the 737 grounding & production-halt disaster.SJW, PC-diversity, virtue-signalling, delusional fakery does not produce workable bridges, aircraft or spacecraft.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2019, 06:27:05 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on December 25, 2019, 04:08:59 pmOr they might just have turned greedy, putting revenue growth and profit above quality?What do you base your theory on? (Apart from the fact that you might be an old white male engineer and not feeling great lately?)