Is your lab too small for P&P machine? No excuses now. - Page 1
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author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2023, 04:14:57 pm
content: Complete MOBILE board assembly setup up for grabs:https://www.ebay.com/itm/374464695348You could take it on vacation.

author: Jackster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2023, 04:45:54 pm
content: I'm actually impressed.

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2023, 05:27:16 pm
content: Quote?? 3D printed parts?Raspberry Pi?

author: Jackster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2023, 05:40:59 pm
content: Quote from: Smokey on January 23, 2023, 05:27:16 pmThat inspection system is just a photo capture software that then does A/B comparison in the cloud with a few extra features.Raspberry Pi is more than fine for that.Yea it is not a high-end bit of tech but the software works for a lot of people.I don't use it myself but quite a few people I communicate/work with do use it commercially.3D printing parts for pick and place is also fine. Some stuff does not feed well so ends up going onto a tray-like feeder setup for cut tape.This is not a multimillion-dollar setup. Got to lower your expectations somewhat 😂

author: AlfBaz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2023, 05:51:19 pm
content: Pfft may not ship to Australia

author: Mangozac
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2023, 10:44:50 pm
content: Quote from: Jackster on January 23, 2023, 05:40:59 pmYes, 3D printing or CNC routing custom trays for pick and place is very common regardless of the vintage of the machine.

author: jmelson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2023, 05:09:59 pm
content: Wow! Going for $6300 so far, that's a GOOD deal on the Samsung CP40 machine alone!Jon

author: Reckless
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2023, 08:26:10 am
content: Quote from: jmelson on January 26, 2023, 05:09:59 pmI have a Samsung CP60L machine with ~50 8mm feeders in chicago I'll sell for $6300 if anyone interested.

author: jmelson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2023, 05:00:11 pm
content: Quote from: Reckless on January 27, 2023, 08:26:10 amWhere were you 2 years ago??!!?? When I started on my quest to upgrade my P&P machine, I saw a CP45 at a local auction and was very impressed. But, the bidding got a bit high. Then, I bought a Quad QSA30A from an auction in Austin TX. That is a Samsung CP30 with Quad electronic feeders and Quad flying alignment cameras. It has some serious software quirks, but now I have got it pretty much figured out.But, I ended up spending WAY more than I had anticipated on this venture - about $7500 or so - to get the feeders and repair parts for the machine.The Quad feeders are a bit fiddly to thread and unload, but seem to work pretty well. I had a Philips/Yamaha CSM84 before, and the feeders were VERY easy to load and unload, but had really weak cover tape pulling and that was a CONSTANT issue. I did get a look at the Samsung feeders used with the CP45, they looked "OK", kind of similar to the Philips/Yamaha ones. how do your feeders deal with assorted tape quality?The Quad electronic feeders can be programmed for component pitch and pickup position with buttons. The old Philips/Yamaha feeders only did 4 mm advance on the 8 and 12mm tapes, but the 16mm and wider could be set for 4-8-12-16 mm advance by moving the air cylinder mount. I kind of liked that you could SEE what the part pitch was set to without installinng the feeder on the machine.One of the things that I really hate about the Quad feeders is that the reel hanger is a separate piece from the feeder. I liked that on almost all other machines, the reel is hung from the feeder so it comes off the machine as one unit.Jon

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2023, 10:10:39 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on January 23, 2023, 04:14:57 pmBut you have to paint a text on the trailer saying: "This is not a meth lab!"