JOVY isolder-40 parts?  Or recommendations on new iron. - Page 1
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author: Amplab207
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 24, 2017, 08:26:55 pm
content: Hi everyone New here and looking for helpSo I've had a JOVY isolder 40 for years now. And I love it. It does everything I ask it to. The problem is the handle tends to melt itself from the heat of the tip. It makes it difficult after time to get the tips in and out. I've had to fix it and drill the end out a few times. I've also broken the handle a few times and had to glue it back together. Now it's at the point where the tips aren't making good contact inside the handle and it's not working very well. Always losing connection with the tip.Does anyone have any leads on where to buy just a new handle? I would buy another new unit, but a friend of mine bought 3 in a row and all got the handle so hot you couldn't even hold onto it. Apparently I lucked out and got a good one. Just the very end is melting on mine.I do repairs on large car amplifiers. So I need something I can change a delicate IC as well as remove large 1/0ga terminal blocks. The JOVY fit the bill perfect with it's sensing technology it would get just the right temp for small stuff, but was a beast on large joints too without even changing the tip or any settings what so ever. It is a great machine in my opinion.I did order a Edsyn 951SXe to try. And with it's 95W rating I was optimistic, but it severely let me down. Even my partners 60W Weller out performed it.I did a test with all 3 irons on the same joint for 30 seconds to test heat loss at the tip. The edsyn and Weller we're on 800*. The jovy is auto sensing. No adjustments. It's tip started out at 375* out of the base.Weller - 415*F and fallingEdsyn - 350*F and falling (temp probe actually got stuck in the cold solder at that point)JOVY - 475*F and steadyAs I said I would really like to just fix this JOVY, but would take recommendations on a new iron as well if it can match the jovy. (Under $300)

author: katzohki
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2017, 10:31:33 pm
content: I would throw the Hakko FX-888D out there as a great iron. Not sure how it would do on the huge joints since I've never used it for anything that big. I have desoldered some big FETs with it. Maybe you'd have to augment with a hot air gun.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 24, 2017, 11:37:12 pm
content: The main question is where are you located? If in EU, I would suggest ERSA I-CON nano.QuoteDid you use similar tips on all of them? Because with small conical tip you cannot expect to solder something beefy.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 24, 2017, 11:41:25 pm
content: Quote from: katzohki on October 24, 2017, 10:31:33 pmIt's good but not great. There are a lot of stations (including Hakko) which will outperform it in both size/tip to grip distance and heat capacity.

author: Amplab207
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 25, 2017, 06:14:11 am
content: Quote from: wraper on October 24, 2017, 11:37:12 pmI am in the US. Sorry I didn't specify that.And I actually had the smallest needle tip I own on the jovy during the testing. I had the largest tips on the Weller and Edsyn.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2017, 07:45:22 am
content: Given you're in the US, you'd want to take a serious look at aHakko FX-951. Full setback features (stand connects to the base so it knows when the iron was placed in it), and common profiles for the tips aren't expensive @ $10.47 per from TEquipment (T15 series).

author: Amplab207
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 25, 2017, 06:39:10 pm
content: Quote from: nanofrog on October 25, 2017, 07:45:22 amI had peaked at that one. Think it would be powerful enough for the larger joints??

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2017, 10:25:42 pm
content: Quote from: Amplab207 on October 25, 2017, 06:39:10 pmYes.It's more powerful than you'd think due to the tip technology (cartridge/AIO type = heater + sensor are included in the tip). There are demos and reviews on YouTube.The drawback is the UI, but as tip temps are something that most owners of this station don't do often, they can live with it.You can get better still, but you'd have to cough up ~2x or more funds to do so.

author: Amplab207
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 25, 2017, 11:32:33 pm
content: Well my JOVY uses nearly identical tips. Same technology. Probably why I like it so much. So that would probably suit me just fine.

author: stj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2017, 10:34:37 pm
content: can you post some foto's??maybe the jovy is a T12 clone.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 12:38:58 am
content: Quote from: stj on October 26, 2017, 10:34:37 pmFrom these photos it does appear to be the same as T12:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-6pcs-lot-Jovy-soldering-Iron-soldering-Tips-for-iSolder-40-JV-TP1-TP2-TP3/1870962958.htmlAttached is a photo of hakko T12, all of the features are the same.So the handle could likely be replaced with a hakko or clone handle. The style of their handle does look good though.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 01:26:30 am
content: Those are definitely T12 clone tips.Not sure I'd bother with wiring in a Hakko FM-2027 to your JOVY though given the additional features (and warranty) of an FX-951.FWIW, there are clone or even counterfeit FM-2027 irons that are cheap (example; less than $8 shipped). Not sure of the ergonomics, but I do know they're not the same quality of the genuine Hakko. It could at least buy you some time to save funds for a quality station though if needed.

author: stj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 01:32:59 am
content: that jovy handpiece a clone of an FX9501here:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SHEVCHENKO-T12-950-Handle-Digital-Soldering-Station-FX-9501-Handle-Soldering-Iron-For-HAKKO-912-Handle/32835065313.html

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 01:42:16 am
content: Quote from: stj on October 27, 2017, 01:32:59 amI've always assumed the manufacturers of that particular style came up with that P/N to clearly link it to a Hakko FX-951, but just different enough they're not in IP violations.I was just looking for a cheap one that would do as at least a temporary fix so the OP can get back to soldering and figure out what to do next.Seems they're calling the clone theFM-2028, $7.75 shipped. At least this one has the detachable grips.BTW, just found a used FM-2027 + stand in rather decent condition (here). At $70 shipped, this would be a decent compromise IMHO (quality handle & continue to use the JOVY base).

author: stj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 02:19:33 am
content: i have read that the split design from hakko falls apart with age,they dont care because the coloured piece is considered replaceable like the tips.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 02:25:08 am
content: Quote from: stj on October 27, 2017, 02:19:33 amThis doesn't surprise me, given all the different colors and it's meant for rapid tip changes.Thing is, by the time a genuine tip dies, I suspect the grip will be rather tattered (seen 10+ years on a properly cared for tip). Now if they're wearing out every 6 months, that's excessive.

author: stj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 02:51:34 am
content: those front bits are pretty damned expensive.https://www.batterfly.com/shop/stazioni_saldanti/accessori-saldatori/hakko-b3216