free energy generator, again - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: FrankBuss
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 24, 2014, 07:09:18 pm
content: That's an impressive fake:He had to hack the multimeter to show a voltage reading when shorted, and he had to mount a battery inside the motor, which are connected to the motor with the external coil or in series with the 9 V battery. But the illusion is not perfect, e.g. no voltage drop at all when he connects the motor to the coil and measures the voltage with the multimeter in parallel, all the time very constant -5.92 V, with or without load, not at least some last digit noise, which is very unreasonable. And with this voltage, it should spin faster. He should improve his Arduino code inside the multimeter and use a bigger hidden battery

author: FrankBuss
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 24, 2014, 07:16:48 pm
content: Ok, after thinking about it, maybe not that impressive: It would be possible to route the 9 V battery in the multimeter to the connectors and when shorting it outside, it would close the circuit, measuring the internal battery (or an extra battery, if measuring the same battery with which is is working is a problem). Still a nice idea.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2014, 07:33:20 pm
content: -5.9V is about right for an ICL7106 in the standard configuration with input + connected to battery minus. That is about right for the internal reference source for the analogue system. Easy enoughto place a smaller motor inside that motor there and still have room for the CR2032 cells to provide the power. note the meter reading does not change at all, as the wire is short enough and current low enough that voltage drop is less than 5mV across the wire. 9V battery probably has been opened and shorted out inside.

author: David_AVD
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2014, 09:04:59 pm
content: I didn't see him measure the 9V battery with the meter either.

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 24, 2014, 09:22:35 pm
content: If it were me, I would have made a fake version of the hard drive magnet with some watch batteries inside, use the hot glue to hide the wires to tap into the coil.

author: Zepnat
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2014, 09:27:21 pm
content: That's great id love to do something like that and get these free energy n-ts going. . But im not clever enoughI thought about using the rotational forces of a bearing when you pass a current through it. These people annoy and amuse in equal amounts. Sorry don't mean to offend any free energy freaks out there.

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2014, 10:21:42 pm
content: You know, there should be a contest on here for who can make the most convincing looking cool free energy device haha.The only free energy devices we create at some point certainly wont truely be free and neither will they be simplistic. I put plenty of stock in getting to fusion first.

author: mariush
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2014, 11:12:35 pm
content: My first thought was that he put one of those qi wireless chargers or some high power cable UNDER the wood boards and the inductor was picking up.But then, I read the explanations in the posts above and they make sense.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2014, 11:53:50 am
content: Fake HDD magnet and batteries inside would also make the most sense to me.Interesting ideas.I had no idea of what you come across, when you "type free" energy in to youtube.

author: David_AVD
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2014, 12:10:48 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on March 25, 2014, 11:53:50 amCrackpots usually.

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2014, 03:38:36 pm
content: I've already seen how this is done. They take the HDD magnet and grind holes for two button cells under the coil spots. The coil that sticks out is just to distract you that both sides are not actually connected.2 3V button cells show 5.9 V

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2014, 03:52:24 pm
content: Here's the video that shows how it is done:

author: FrankBuss
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 25, 2014, 04:29:30 pm
content: lol, that's ingenious, I didn't expect a battery inside of the magnet.

author: nihilism
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2014, 04:47:17 pm
content: he needs to invest in a tripod.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2014, 08:03:47 pm
content: It seems these people who fall for this kind of stuff, have never heard of the first and second law of thermodynamics.They are also called "laws" because they are not just a theory.They have been proven oven and over again.The conservation of energy lawFirst Law of Thermodynamics:Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyedThe Second Law of Thermodynamics:States that in all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the state will alwaysbe less than that of the initial state.Why wasting so much time in making these videos?It seems people have nothing better to do in their life.Weird

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2014, 10:09:28 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on March 25, 2014, 08:03:47 pmFor the same basic reason you decided to post something on this.

author: hamster_nz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2014, 11:57:42 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on March 25, 2014, 08:03:47 pmWhat, like Newton's law of gravity?Or the fact that two cool pieces of a special metal can suddenly become very warm when held close together? To an unknowning observer this would violate the laws of thermodynamics (and most likely kill them)Or the principle of mass conservation?Or that electrons can "tunnel" through insulators?Or that the photoelectric effect could not be explained with classical electromagnetic theory?Or the fact that Light always travels in straight lines?Or that law that time is constant for all observers?Or that the fine-structure constant is maybe not constant (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100909004112.htm)It is always good to have an open mind on things - some times it is verry hard to tell a genius and crackpot apart! (I'm thinking Fleischmann–Pons)