Patreon Alternative BitBacker - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 28, 2018, 03:55:21 am
content: Due to the Patreon debacle I'm now also on Patreon alternative Bitbacker.ioSimilar to Patreon but it's Bitcoin based.https://bitbacker.io/user/eevblog/

author: shteii01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2018, 04:10:51 am
content: (Canadian) Eh?I support a couple of authors on Patreon. I have not heard anything.

author: vinito
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2018, 04:40:32 am
content: Quote from: shteii01 on December 28, 2018, 04:10:51 amJust do a quick youtube search and absorb the rebellion in all its glory and despair.Basically it comes down to Patreon deciding to be an unstable heavy-hander (in step with the big tech coop) and probably shooting themselves in the foot for it.Personally I suspect a lot of the actual problem comes from above Patreon (i.e. PayPal, Stripe, Visa, Mastercard, etc.) but wherever it comes from, it's certainly a problem and Patreon isn't helping (actually worsening) and the problem remains and is growing, FWIW.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2018, 04:54:15 am
content: …imagine if banks started canceling the accounts of people who have committed no offense but did not abide by their corporate mission statement? We’d have political banks.”

author: chickenHeadKnob
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2018, 05:06:48 am
content: I don't quite understand the function of bitbacker for recipients that are already fully versant and comfortable with receiving crypto-coin directly like Dave. It seems like an unnecessary middleman.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 28, 2018, 05:08:19 am
content: Quote from: chickenHeadKnob on December 28, 2018, 05:06:48 amJust like Patreon I can post content exclusively to backers.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2018, 05:32:34 am
content: Quote from: MT on December 28, 2018, 04:54:15 amImagine it? I do not need to. The banks and credit processing companies have been doing that for a while and never stopped.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point

author: JoeO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2018, 01:32:36 pm
content: Quote from: shteii01 on December 28, 2018, 04:10:51 amTo save you time, here is a link to a YT video of the situation. Rogan actually uses the word he used.

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2018, 12:53:53 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 28, 2018, 03:55:21 am... I've deleted my Patreon account.

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2018, 03:41:35 am
content: Quote from: vinito on December 28, 2018, 04:40:32 amIt's usually not the credit card companies, they are well aware of their monopoly position and tend to leave the defacto censorship to the payment processors.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2018, 04:49:32 pm
content: Quote from: Marco on December 29, 2018, 03:41:35 amThe payment processors and banks have been doing this at least since 2013 to disfavored industries and individuals. I am inclined to think that after Operation Choke Point which I linked above, some people decided it was too good of an idea to drop.I look forward to what comes out of discovery from the NRA/ACLU lawsuit against New York governor Cuomo if it gets that far.

author: Lord of nothing
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2018, 04:53:39 pm
content: So when it come into % how much would end on my Bank Account in the end?And the most important question is how much the charge for foreign Currency?

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2018, 04:58:14 pm
content: Quote from: MT on December 28, 2018, 04:54:15 amThat's been going on for decades. Look up how sex workers have been treated in the past by banks, even in places where it's not necessarily illegal.

author: Lord of nothing
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2018, 06:25:11 pm
content: Good and Loyal Partner and quite no complain by the customer.

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2018, 02:13:27 pm
content: He forgot to include Apple and Patreon to the list.

author: BFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2018, 02:52:55 pm
content: I couldn't understand how/why Patreon can ruin their business in such a simple wayNext point is on you YouTube why it's even exist next to their services? From business point of view YouTube doing something wrong.And the last point is why the heck it's no simple transparent service without any restrictions like transfer money for some little fees and those services like those Patreon pages will be under different agreement.Nevertheless I didn't like Patreon system from beginning.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2018, 04:13:59 pm
content: The interview with the Patreon representative sure makes it seem like the financial processors were calling the shots. She made the typical denial that is not a denial practically saying it without saying it. This is supported by what then happened to Subscribestar.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2019, 05:30:35 pm
content: Quote from: Marco on December 29, 2018, 03:41:35 amA friend just forwarded this to me. Follow the links in the article for more details.https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/01/death-metal-label-shuts-down-after-paypal-credit-cards-pull-out-due-to-doj-fdic-initiative/74398/

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2019, 09:12:19 pm
content: I'm not aware of any MCC with fees involved for “promoting hatred”, “promoting violence”, and “promoting hate speech”. As I said, it's almost always the payment processors which do the discriminating and this article doesn't really prove anything to the contrary.Quote from: chickenHeadKnob on December 28, 2018, 05:06:48 amPatreon and subscription services in general rely on the psychological truth that lazy people can be more easily be talked into a subscription than talk themselves out of it. You don't really get that with non recurring payments.That said, I wouldn't really trust some non incorporated nobody with a multisig wallet I deposited money in for backing purposes.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2019, 01:21:19 pm
content: Vimeo has some support creator system integrated. If you pay you watch.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2019, 05:11:02 pm
content: Subscribestar has apparently restarting operations after PayPal, Mastercard, and Visa cut them off.https://www.subscribestar.com/posts/7864