TESTING THE RIGOL MSO5000 SERIES OSCILLOSCOPE - Page 1
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author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2024, 01:34:54 pm
content: HI GUYS,It would be appear that we got a bit carried away on the other forum....Here.. (Perhaps from around Page 60 onwards)https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopesand after unlocking our MSO5000 scopes from Factory to 350MHz with all Options we were all chuffed,But then we unlocked it further to 500MHzAfter that there was some debate as to whether the changes were just cosmetic or actual and realized.So we started testing and uploading screenshots, the results were interesting.I'm still in the process of testing to see if the MSO5000 can go higher than 500MHz and from what we can tell so far (Long story short) I can indeed go to 900MHz and up to 1.1GHz but not beyondTHE PURPOSE OF THIS TOPIC IS....1. Go Nuts with scope bandwidth Analysis2. To keep the other forum on Topic3. Feel free to add analysis of other scopes, But try to keep it mainly on Rigol MSO5000 if possible=======================================================================================================================RESOURCES :Here is the Main Hacking Post (The Big one)https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopesHere is my shorter version of it that contains the activation procedurehttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-dr-mefisto-licensing-method/Here is the link to the deep dive video series that i created. (This has nothing to do with activation, it's more for people who want to know how to completely use their scopes in depth)and this thread with complement that video series.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/post-hacking-rigol-mso5000-post-hacking-tutorial-deep-diveHere is the MSO8000 Series link where ASP@traxpalicaruhas put in some awesome work to get us to where we are , this link contains historical versions of the python scriptshttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso8204-mso8000/=======================================================================================================================Now that the formalities are out of the way. LET THE SCREENSHOTS BEGIN .....OFFICIALLY this Topic picks up from page 63 of this linkhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopesCURRENTLY@ 6SN7WGTB Posted the Frequency response testing of his MSO5104 (In the Attachment)@Odd-Job, we thought odd job was a rockstar who had a crazy Sig Gen to die for , But it turns out he just bought an Amazon cheapy so we have lost all respect for odd jobI'm even considering banning him from this thread until he gets a better Sig Gen@ Me Apparently i was told that i was a knob for using RG-6 Coax (75 Ohm) for testing the frequency response of my MSO5000my defense was, it's all i had lying around. In an attempt to regain my honour i have gone out and bought SMA 50 (Ohm) LLC CoaxI think that's where we are at.LET THE TESTING BEGIN

author: Odd-Job
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 07, 2024, 09:31:12 am
content: Well, I think it WILL be very hard to beat6SN7WGTBautomated graphed result obtained from the most desirable Marconi/IFR/Aeroflex 2025. High Bar, difficult, but I can feel a scheme forming in the back of my head bone.I WILL have to go old skool. Analog sweep Generator andLOGGraph paper. Maybe my WAVETEK 1801A with 950Mhz module WILL come in handy again.Used it for design and repairs of Television Distribution Amps, Masthead pre's and CATV systems for motels back in the days. Sure I'll still have some75ΩBNC terminators stashed somewhere. (And why would I need these BTO , ya knob. Copy?)Its (1801a) specs are; (Band 1)1-500Mhz, (Band 2) 450-950Mhz, -33dbmV to +57dbmV ,run CW any where in (bands) range or sweep from 200kHz all the way up to full band range, Xtal Birdy(tweety) marker, great with a Spec Analyser. (nothing like tuning the mark freq knob to & fro and watching as it fired up the phosphor on a Cathode ray tube in a dark room. And for the young people, on the back it has a X,Y and aZouput. ( Z output, no such thing ya 'ol fool,get back to the retirement home)Z (Ext Marker), intensity, so you could watch video signal on a good CRO, hook it up to the horizontal & vertical stages of a (FTA) Tv receiver and fee the Z from the flyback? I think?.HAIL AND GLORY BE TO THE GREAT ELEMENTAL GODS OF GERMANIUM and SILICONI FEEL A HAND OF REDEMPTION UPON MEOver

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2024, 10:33:54 am
content: Quote from: Odd-Job on November 07, 2024, 09:31:12 amQuoteDefinitely, it was a cool graph that he threw up and... of course, he has a MarconiQuoteComplete with Authentic wear and tear marks and surface rust spotsQuoteCOPY THAT ! C.Q ... C.Q... COPY !i was around before "Roger Beeps" so i do indeed copy and i have the phonetic alphabet down pat !it can be recited upon demandQuoteLOL

author: sorenkir
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2024, 05:07:22 pm
content: Hi,Quote from: sorenkir on September 29, 2024, 08:40:23 amFYI, Rohde & Schwarz SMIQ03B is a serious bit of kitMichel.

author: Odd-Job
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 07, 2024, 08:32:11 pm
content: Very nice, VERY desirable and very pricey.Would need to win a good contract to justify that to the boss, wife etc.Must read about it. Thank's for giving me T.E envy Michel.We might have some competition for the Marconi here BTO.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2024, 12:54:11 am
content: Quote from: sorenkir on November 07, 2024, 05:07:22 pmQuoteIt's such a serious bit of kit that we didn't need to be told it was a serious bit of kitBE HONEST NOW.... LOLYou just wanted to show off your Rohde & SchwarzBut i guess you've earned the right haven't you.MAY THE SCHWARZ BE WITH YOU

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2024, 12:56:47 am
content: Quote from: Odd-Job on November 07, 2024, 08:32:11 pmYeah but it looks like it'll be closeIn any case.... WE ARE ON THE CORRECT TOPICso i would happily invite a test-off between the Marconi and Rohde & SchwarzIF THEY HAVE THE BALLS TO GO HEAD TO HEAD THOUGHBut seriously.. i would genuinely like to see the differences between them in side by side testingif they'd be up for it

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2024, 01:03:47 am
content: Quote from: sorenkir on November 07, 2024, 05:07:22 pmQuoteYeah, i'm currently in the process of testing that....Changing mine from MSO5074 to MSO5954

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2024, 02:38:00 pm
content: I'm CuriousMSO5000 does not have BODE ANALYSIS.But in this video is suggests that somehow it's possibleMy question is......Do you reckon it's possible to perform Bode Analysis without the actual Bode Analysis Function in the scope

author: passenger54321
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 08, 2024, 05:02:27 pm
content: MSO5000 has bode analysis with the internal signal generator (25 MHz).See lower left icon -> Bode Plot.It sees bode plot always as difference between two signals (else, how could it do phase?)If you need higher frequencies, then how to sync an external signal generator?Also, which is the reference? Or, do you just 'trust' the external signal generator for linearity?-> you could use an external signal generator, a splitter -> one output to the MSO5000, another to ahigh-bandwith-oscilloscope. Then, control the instruments via SCPI and draw your own plot with a script.-Ulrich