Video tour of whats left in a worksop from 14 years after guys death - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Homer J Simpson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2019, 03:18:54 pm
content: Shago066 gives a video tour of a guys shop left over from when he passed away.No too much electrical or electronics specific but interesting to watch and sad at the same time.A lifetime of work and hobby all going to the dump.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2019, 03:59:14 pm
content: The woman gives birth over the grave, as a philosopher once coined. Most left is garbage, no "ordnung muss sein" in that garage.

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2019, 04:21:27 pm
content: That RCA is a point-contact transistor! (@35:50)

author: unknownparticle
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2019, 05:06:19 pm
content: So sad to see the lifes work of a guy go to a dump. I can't help thinking my stuff may eventually suffer the same fate. I don't have a collection on that scale but friends that know of my guilty secret accuse me of being a hoarder and that I should 'declutter'. My response is that it isn't clutter and my only problem is not too much stuff but too little space!

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2019, 05:36:38 pm
content: You nailed it! As BigClive said "if you are not a hoarder than you not have enough space"

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2019, 06:56:50 pm
content: What qualified the guy to get a first pass at the remaining goods before they got cleaned out? He does not seem to know much about anything.Also, why does he think it is acceptable to tour a deceased person's house with a camera, thumb through their private photos, and then post the video on Youtube?I'm glad I don't know the videographer, and hope I will never meet him. Dumb and rude.

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2019, 07:17:47 pm
content: Those Sylvania tubes in the yellow boxes appear to be NOS.

author: nctnico
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timestamp: December 17, 2019, 07:52:23 pm
content: Quote from: unknownparticle on December 17, 2019, 05:06:19 pmWrong assumption. Make a list from memory with everything you have. Everything not on the list should go into the garbage. If you don't know you have it, you will buy it if you need it anyway.There is this TV show called 'American Pickers' which often shows similar hoards.

author: Echo88
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2019, 09:57:04 pm
content: Is there anything under the rubbish thats as valuable as the moments spent with the deceased person, which is the true treasure? Nope, not to be found in those jars full of screws or under old catalogues.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2019, 11:29:47 pm
content: I remember when some board makers use to relabel chips with all sorts of names and I think the one with the ETEQ chipset 31:23 is either a rebranded SiS or Via.There is a top header slot connector that I came across along time ago that I saw on some of the boards in a Compaq 386 that is on the Trident VGA ISA video card at 32:11 in the video.QuoteI think of it as fun but then it is still hoarding.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2019, 12:24:12 am
content: Having a well stocked junk hoard has saved my bacon on quite a few occasions----notably when having to replace a porcelain insulating standoff from the PA grid circuit of a "Nera" FM Broadcast transmitter.The manufacturer was on the "other side of the world" & semi-defunct, so it was wait & hope for months, or try to find something.In a box of National HRO parts at home, I found two standoffs which were just about the right size, & could be pressed into service--"one for now", & one for a spare.Just as well I provided a spare, as years later, that insulator failed too, & needed replacement.(the circuit layout was a very poor design).I hadn't possessed a National HRO for over a decade at the time, so had contemplated giving the bits away!

author: Gregg
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2019, 01:51:39 am
content: I recently had the eye-opening experience of being the executor for the estate of a friend who had a similar amount of stuff. It is sad to see so much stuff that is too good to throw away and try to find reasonable homes for the majority of items. As one gets older, the projects that once seemed to be relevant become a burden especially with failing health. Things that once mattered just don’t matter anymore.From the video, it seems like the relatives may have made much of the mess looking for valuables. It is amazing how greedy some people can become.From my experience, I spent almost a year clearing up details for very little compensation. I can fully see why someone would call the junk haulers especially if the real estate property needs to be sold and there is no clause in the estate to pay the executor.Lessons I learned:1. If you have anything left of value, dying isn’t cheap2. If you have a bunch of stuff that you deem valuable and you find a trusted person that is willing to be your executor, get a clause in the will or trust to pay them appropriately; lawyers are reluctant to do this because they are lazy and want to go with the “customary” 1.5%.3. Lawyers are mostly scumbags that are only in the business of getting paid more than they are worth4. Beneficiaries expect the executor to work for nothing but have no problem paying 6% to real estate agents and $400 to $500 an hour to lawyers out of the estate funds5. If you agree to be an executor, read the trust and will documents very very carefully and insist on changes you deem necessary before the person dies. Make sure that you will have access to estate funds immediately upon the death to pay expenses.6. Make doubly sure that everything has been done to keep the estate out of any court action; this usually involves setting up a trust in the US.

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2019, 02:51:45 am
content: Quote from: ebastler on December 17, 2019, 06:56:50 pmI agree on all points. The narrator doesn't have a clue of what things are worth or what's useful and what's not.That grease in the military can that the narrator is complaining about is still being made and is still some of the best around. While the narrator was ranting about the fan, there was a complete rifle (a Mauser?) or at least the stock lying just beyond it that he completely missed. Original military stocks are worth anywhere from $100 to several hundreds of dollars, complete rifles general start at about $1000 and go UP from there. ALL of that welding equipment and tanks are still in demand are worth good money. Again tanks alone are $100 OR MORE. Has anyone priced some of the rarer name-brand vacuum tubes lately? And I noticed that he left a whole drawer full of aircraft gauges. It appears that he had no clue of what they were. I had enough of his idiocy and I stopped at 18 minutes in.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2019, 03:08:17 am
content: Quote from: Gregg link=topic=222550.msg2834128#msg2834128Heck, i will one day write this on the wall in my shack

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2019, 10:32:34 am
content: Quote from: Stray Electron on December 18, 2019, 02:51:45 amUsed gas torch equipment is only valuable after it's been inspected, otherwise it's just a potential deathrap. Also, I thought that drawer was in the dresser he took.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2019, 11:53:59 am
content: Wow I knew that was going to be super annoying just from the title. Sure enough, first few seconds, he dumps a new 486 motherboard out of its anti-static bag then handles it with a rubber gloves. Chances he put it _back_ in the bag: zero. Then the video just keeps going south.I saw numerous heavy blunt objects I'd enjoy bashing that ignorant barbarian's brains out with.Tragedy rating: 8 out of 10. Can't watch it all.

author: unknownparticle
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2019, 02:23:04 pm
content: My recollection of my stuff is pretty good but even the stuff I may have forgotten is still important to me, and would be a pleasant surprise when I find it!My stuff is part of who I am and I don't want to just think of it in terms of what will happen to it when I die, as that would define the remaining time I have.I do however, have a plan of what will happen to my estate eventually.Regarding the guy who made this video, he may not know of the value or importance of some of the stuff he was sorting through but check out his videos on repairing old TV's, he knows his stuff.

author: Ed.Kloonk
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timestamp: December 19, 2019, 02:39:17 pm
content: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowerbird

author: ebastler
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timestamp: December 19, 2019, 02:50:53 pm
content: Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on December 19, 2019, 02:39:17 pmQuoteSorry, but I'm afraid neither the collection we saw in the video, nor any of our own piles of "treasures", are going to be effective to that end.Edit: Messed-up sentence fixed... Thanks unknownparticle!

author: unknownparticle
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2019, 02:55:20 pm
content: Do you mean 'not' going to effective? Unless she is a nerd of course!! One of my female nerd friends loves to visit and fondle my treasures!!!

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2019, 03:02:24 pm
content: Quote from: unknownparticle on December 19, 2019, 02:55:20 pmThanks, you are right of course.Too much information on the "fondling my treasures" part though.

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2019, 03:17:25 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on December 19, 2019, 03:02:24 pmSeparate thread. And photos or it didn't happen.

author: unknownparticle
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2019, 05:39:42 pm
content: Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on December 19, 2019, 03:17:25 pmYou wish!!

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2019, 09:59:56 pm
content: Quote from: unknownparticle on December 19, 2019, 05:39:42 pmSome people do actually take me up on the offer. My hard drive is a lot like that gentleman's garage.(I hope nobody rifles through it after I gone. Or before even.)

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2019, 11:01:55 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on December 18, 2019, 11:53:59 amOfcourse. What is the use of an old 486 motherboard? Zero. Even if you want to restore an old piece of equipment there are plenty of Pentium-II and Pentium-III boards out there which still have ISA slots.

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2019, 01:46:41 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 19, 2019, 11:01:55 pmError: Vintagecomputingknowledge.exe not foundThere are plenty of vintage computer geeks that still build with 486s, just have a look on Youtube, or even here for that matter.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/vintage-computing/

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2019, 01:51:18 am
content: That reminds me of this place that a friend and I visited.Absolutely ridiculous about of electronics and manufacturing stuff under a house. Lots of junk but also lots of brand new stuff in boxes.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2019, 02:05:54 am
content: Quote from: Cyberdragon link=topic=222550.msg2837222#msg2837222Try to get/rebuild a pre-486 computers like ZX Spectrum and see his much it will cost you. The 486's are just waiting to be next in the line.

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2019, 05:17:05 am
content: Quote from: Bud on December 20, 2019, 02:05:54 amStuff gets rarer if people ignorent of it keep chucking it out thinking it's junk. Also, the fact that NOS 486 parts are rather rare is exactly what makes them valuable to collectors, but currently 486 CPUs seem to go for $10-50 on Ebay.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2019, 05:46:36 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 19, 2019, 11:01:55 pmTell that to the three people I sold untested used ones to over the last 2 years for $50-$85 each.You're looking at this all wrong, it's not about usefulness, people collect vintage computers, parts are valuable, NOS parts especially so. I'd expect a NOS 486 motherboard to fetch at least $100 on ebay, possibly more.

author: jadew
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timestamp: December 20, 2019, 06:06:02 am
content: It's a very saddening thought. I think a small notebook with what might be worth selling and what could be worth keeping by someone with a taste for quality gear, is not a bad idea.Also, maybe instructions on how to get the best price.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2019, 06:20:17 am
content: This happens all the time, and is why I encourage anyone who has a big hoard of stuff to make sure there's someone who knows what it is and try to sort out the stuff that's particularly worth saving. All too often something like this happens and all the family sees is a mountain of junk they need gone so they can sell the house and the whole pile ends up in a landfill.I don't care about getting top dollar for my stuff when I'm gone but I do hope someone has the sense to get my most treasured belongings to someone who can enjoy them.

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2019, 06:57:31 am
content: As someone who has planted a few hoarders in my time, I can tell you that it's difficult to secure enough interested parties in the time usually allotted for cleaning up the estate and readying it for sale. With one, we had a big garage sale. Many people came. Many things went to good homes for a few dollars. After all the big ticket items were gone, there was much mess everywhere. All good stuff, just too much of it.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2019, 07:36:11 am
content: Quote from: james_s on December 20, 2019, 06:20:17 amIn the case of the video i posted above they started selling it off at $5/kg to anyone who wanted to come and take it away.A good amount of the nice stuff was sold but sadly the house caught on fire and lots of it was lost.There was an entire room packed floor to ceiling with so much stuff we could not get in to see what was there. So sad, could have been anything in that room.I remember walking through the place and seeing lots of powered equipment bolted to the ceiling in various rooms. Most of it was very random and custom made. No idea what it was doing but lots of lights flashing.That place was a fire hazard from day 1 and with all the extra foot traffic of people visiting to buy things i'm not suppressed the fire occurred.

author: unknownparticle
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2019, 01:47:06 pm
content: Rule of thumb, wait long enough and almost everything becomes collectable and valuable. One of my other interests is motorcycles and I've frequently been laughed at for some of the stuff I've acquired in the past, those that laughed laugh no longer when they see the value of those unwanted bikes now! Another example, now that most tools are made in China, everyone wants British or American made stuff. The UK is blighted more than the US in this respect, we have lost most of our manufacturing industry, significantly more so than the US. So now, if you want a UK made vice for example, you will pay a pretty stiff price.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2019, 12:24:17 am
content: Quote from: james_s on December 20, 2019, 05:46:36 amThrow away as much as possible and prices become even higher.We shouldn't enable hoarders!

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2019, 06:21:48 pm
content: Yesterday I was helping clear out a storage unit full of 'computer antiques.' Lots of treasures. One of the other guys found an Imsai 8080 computer in as-new condition. I'm so jealous.But I'm happy. Found a box of manuals for the DEC PDP 8/S and 8/E. I have an 8/S I'm trying to restore, but had no service info, schematics, etc. Now I do.Plenty of other treasures, including a HP 9000-226.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2019, 06:25:43 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 19, 2019, 11:01:55 pmYou can take the cache SRAMs off to use on a VIC-20 for example.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2019, 06:29:01 pm
content: Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on December 21, 2019, 06:25:43 pmWhy would you take a few dollars of SRAM off of a board that's worth much more than that complete? I haven't seen a NOS 486 board in a long time, lots of people would get excited over that.