Win-source? - Page 1
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author: jrs45
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2021, 01:57:34 pm
content: Are they reputable? They have some parts I need that are out of stock elsewhere, but there are so many scammy suppliers on octopart I'd want to be very cautious.

author: mon2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2021, 02:21:02 pm
content: Yes, they are very reliable. Have used them a number of times including to source from them and drop ship to a medical approved CM in Shenzhen for a PCB assembly for a surgical robot controller. The CM builds for AMD and other key OEMs. Purchased some components that are factory new but surplus, factory sealed with current date codes at a fraction of the prices we have paid in North America. The key reason here was to do a rush build for a client who was pressed for a reduced lead time - often our customers give us zero forecasts but expect miracles on delivery cycles. Win-Source had stock of the referenced goods.No issues with dealing with Win-Source to date. They are ISO certified. You can, at your option, negotiate the best pricing but found them to be always fair.Sharing a contact (whom others have used recently as well):Quote

author: pryanbeng
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 10, 2021, 09:51:12 pm
content: I also ended up using them for to fill in part shortages. The prices were marked up quite a bit, but no issue with shipping or payment. 1 week shipping to Canada. Parts were as advertised no issues or defects, shipped in reel.

author: Selectech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2021, 04:14:41 pm
content: Ordered 3 reels of Toshiba fets, they had lots in stock, and pricing was best of any that had stock. Delivery to Canada was about a week ( via DHL ), all good.

author: 48X24X48X
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2021, 03:21:14 pm
content: On any of their product listing, there's this entry of: Fake Threat In the Open Market = xx percent.Are they suggesting theirs could be counterfeit?

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2021, 03:25:43 pm
content: Quote from: 48X24X48X on March 31, 2021, 03:21:14 pmThey are probably suggesting the ones you find on the "Open Market" could be counterfeit?

author: 48X24X48X
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2021, 06:35:56 am
content: Going to give them a try as some parts are just zero stocks everywhere else.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2021, 09:49:16 am
content: Mediocre.Beware that they play a game where they present competitive pricing, then come back to you with a rubber stamped reply saying that "parts were been found not in good condition by our engineer before the shipment", and then offer you the same part at grossly inflated pricing, and more than the stock they are still advertising.Example 1, MGA-62563 RF amplifier was inflated from their advertised $1.73 to $3.60 (I eventually pointed out they were still advertising at $3.059, which I got despite my crap haggling skills).Example 2, TLV320AIC3204 codec was inflated from $1.10 to $2.22, but I told them to stuff it. With all the delays in responses (I'd had to chase them up) I'd already gone somewhere else.The problem with this isn't just that there would appear to be some systemic misrepresentation of pricing based on my experiences, it's that typically this haggling nonsense adds significant delays.For Example 1, the devices finally arrived in cut tape inside original Avago sealed packaging. I performed a sample test and they were fine.The current semiconductor shortages are inevitably pushing BOM prices up. I'm currently able to shoulder those costs, but for those with business models supporting narrower margins that won't be possible, and price increases to retail customers are inevitable.

author: jrs45
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 04, 2021, 01:24:45 pm
content: They pulled that with me, too. But the final price was still comparable with that from other distributors.

author: YurkshireLad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 04, 2021, 02:53:42 pm
content: Wow, just wow. They even send exactly the same email and don't even bother to make it personal or hide what they're doing.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2021, 05:01:53 pm
content: Mother ******s just did it again.I told them they had the choice to either ship at their advertised price (that they're still advertising) or **** right off.

author: NorthGuy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2021, 11:04:01 pm
content: Prices seem bogus at best:https://www.win-source.net/xilinx-inc.-xc7a35t-1ftg256c.htmlhttps://www.win-source.net/xilinx-inc.-xc7a35t-1ftg256i.htmlThis is the same part, except for temperature range. Both "in stock" with 300 pieces (looks like bogus number too - the tray is 90 pieces). Price for C is $179, Price for I is $27.How can you possibly trust them enough to place an order?

author: Mangozac
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2021, 11:19:56 pm
content: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/manufacture/win-source-electronics-good-to-go/After the stunt they pulled on me earlier this week (rack up the price upon making an inquiry) I won't attempt to deal with them again. Not to mention asking far too much for parts without trustworthy provenance.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2021, 11:11:48 am
content: Quote from: NorthGuy on May 27, 2021, 11:04:01 pmTBF, they do deliver kosher parts... but the 100% bait-and-switch is pure bullshit.

author: jrs45
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2021, 04:41:31 pm
content: This was my experience as well. They used the "improperly stored" excuse. But the final price was comparable to other mainstream distributors, fwiw.

author: Centmo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2022, 04:55:36 pm
content: Dishonest supplier. After ordering parts and paying for them in full, I was notified a week later that the parts had gone up in price 4x, and I would need to pay the higher price. I declined and was refunded. On another order, one month after payment I emailed to ask when the parts would ship and was told that in fact they didn't have the stock so they would have to refund me (minus exchange fee). Finding this suspicious, I requested a quote for the same part from a different email address and was given a price 3x what I paid and was told they have plenty in stock and ready to ship in 2-3 days.In addition to the ordering issues, a colleague of mine discovered that they has used a fake humidity card in an old order. The bag had been sitting open for months and none of the humidity levels had triggered.Very dishonest business, steer clear.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2022, 12:50:03 pm
content: Same old sh!tQuote

author: mon2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2022, 01:03:04 pm
content: Win-source needs a flying roundhouse kick for their gouging methods.Have to ask - why would you NOT buy directly from the TI webstore ? They have the parts currently in stock..grab them before Win-source does...https://www.ti.com/store/ti/en/p/product/?p=TLV320AIC3204IRHBR

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2022, 01:14:32 pm
content: Quote from: mon2 on April 29, 2022, 01:03:04 pmI already did: at the time I placed the order with Win-Source, there was zero availability.

author: Feynman
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 06:05:49 am
content: We occasionally order parts from them.The price is high of course, but that is the market. I'm a capitalist at heart and high prices are the only real solution in the long term when supply is low and demand is high. And after an order the price might change a little (low one digit percentage). The parts appear to be genuine and are properly packaged (ESD, moisture). Due to CoViD restrictions it might take a while for the shipment to leave and the support is not too responsive (but will respond eventually most of the time). Apart from that, we can't complain.You can give them a chance in emergency situations, I guess. But don't expect the parts to arrive in a couple of days or the price being constant to the cent.Don't rely on anything, basically. And get the ok from your customer to buy parts from unauthorized vendors like Win-Source.There are vendors out there that are 100% scam. I don't think Win-Source falls into this category.

author: jrs45
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 12:44:11 pm
content: Thanks. Since the original post I've done several orders with Win-Source, holding my nose at the prices sometimes (but I haven't bought anything too egregious). The most important issue is whether they are selling good parts that are what they claim they are. So far, all the parts have been exactly what we ordered, and in good condition as far as we can tell.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 09:37:37 pm
content: Quote from: Feynman on May 18, 2022, 06:05:49 am"to the cent"But it's not just a cent or two, is it?I am a capitalist too. That doesn't mean it's acceptable EVERY TIME to advertise at one price, take your money, and then turn around a few days later and say, oh, we didn't mean $2 we meant $3... or $10. In most western jurisdictions that is an illegal practice, and for good reason. It has nothing to do with capitalism.

author: Mangozac
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 10:37:09 pm
content: Guys, just don't use Win-source!We recently had no choice but to go grey-market for a thermocouple amplifier IC after AD pushed their lead times back further. I dealt with Worldway electronics who, despite still having a painful price, were open to some negotiation and did not play any games like Win-source who regularly do.

author: 48X24X48X
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 19, 2022, 04:45:20 am
content: Quote from: Mangozac on May 18, 2022, 10:37:09 pmMAX6675/MAX31855/MAX31856? These are notoriously known for fake parts.

author: Mangozac
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 19, 2022, 05:32:10 am
content: Quote from: 48X24X48X on May 19, 2022, 04:45:20 amAD8495. I'm aware of the risk but the customer demanded no interruption to supply of the finished product and was willing to pay the price and risk. We qualified the parts as much as possible prior to use.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2022, 08:15:50 pm
content: Tried to order few pieces of LTC3547, 1,000+ in stock, order goes through. Out of stock.OK, now they've updated the page to show 0 stock now. Reasonable.Try again ordering an alternate:Quote50% increase. Tell them to update the price on the site. They've now updated the website price, but to $9 not $6Asked another grey market supplier who initially said $12/ea, then offered to beat the price at $5/ea once I sent them the win-source info.Seems like its all just a game to haggle on the price, as they know demand is really low right now (for this IC at least, some are still in demand I'm sure).Before buying anything on win-source, email for the quote first (their recommendation), don't trust the website number.And try asking another supplier if they can get within ~30% of that posted price and consider using them.

author: Mangozac
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2022, 11:33:06 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on November 30, 2022, 08:15:50 pmBetter still, don't even waste your time with the scalpers at Win-Source. Go straight to another broker who won't play those stupid games: they're all pulling from the same pool of grey market parts.I can also recommend Keming Electronics: we've used them for several parts this year and the pricing is usually good. Sometimes the pricing is crazy but they know that and apologise.

author: sam512bb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2023, 07:13:31 pm
content: Good day All,This is an old thread, but I thought I would give you all the heads up that the FTDI parts I bought from win-source.net were counterfeit. Thankfully I did not buy too many. The win-source FTDI parts looked legitimate and worked almost like factory FTDI parts, except for generating serial "break" conditions... basically the win-source FTDI branded parts would not generate a "break" no matter what.So... be aware and if anything, perhaps buy a few parts in advance to verify authenticity.Cheers.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2024, 08:20:32 pm
content: Quote from: jieshengxinelectronics on October 31, 2024, 07:12:44 amSeems legit!

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 01, 2024, 01:20:55 am
content: Quote from: Mangozac on May 27, 2021, 11:19:56 pmThat would also be illegal in Australia. The lowest displayed price applies, unless there was some very serious pricing error (e.g.: A new $50k car listed for sale at $5000).

author: tarun172
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2024, 12:58:58 pm
content: Bad experience working with Winsource. They did not deliver parts as quoted.