Digital Oscilloscope Chart - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 03:00:39 pm
content: Updated on 30 December, 2021I have attached the chart listing the many well known digital Oscilloscopes in the market.All the model have pros and cons beyond the numbers in the charts. Check details in the datasheet or comments in the forum.I was looking for a good forum, since I was considering to buy an oscilloscope, and I found the eevblog is an excellent place.I wanted to contribute something and maybe my chart I made might be useful for someone.(It was about April 2015 when I started to make a chart. I was considering buying around 800 to 2000 USD model, and the columns are optimized for this range of scopes. Definitely the high-end models requires much broader specs)I would appreciate any kind of comment, especially for unknown columns and mistakes.Sorted by the price based on the feedback.Adding more models are coming.The link to the Google Drive: (anyone could add comments)https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtPqMAkNw2bSkqocuc7zcYkl57fsdPVlxzyqcJmbKIc/edit?usp=sharing@CMASupra has made the great chart more details on the analog front end, logic analyzer, FFT, bode plot (frequency response test) and not only for each series but also models in series.It would be really nice to merge all the in one charts, might happen some time in the future.Excsel sheet by @CMASuprahttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/digital-oscilloscope-comparison-chart/?action=dlattach;attach=1066268The image of CMASupra is attached next to my chart images.Chart by @CMASupraChangelog (suggested by):*Changed from having models on the row and specs on the columns, to specs on the row and models on the columns. (videobruce)*Changed from jpg to png which reduced the mosquito noise.*Added excel sheet on the first post. (videobruce)*Sorting the chart by prices. (videobruce)*Fixed specs of RIGOL's segmented memory. (miguelvp, Stupid Beard)*Added SIGLENT. (tautech)*Uploaded excel file to Google drive and added to the first post. (rs20, tautech)*Added GW-Instek, Hantek and Iwatsu. (Muxr)*Fixed the specs of RIGOL's waveform update rates. (miguelvp)*Added column for whether has individual vertical knobs for each channels.*Added Imperial to the size and weight since most of the datasheets are in Metric. (videobruce)*Added OWON and GRATTEN (ATTEN). (Muxr)*Added a few models.*Reduced the row height by widening the columns so only two lines are needed instead of three and others. (videobruce)*Added Rohde & Schwarz. (Muxr)*Fixed the segmented mem sections of HMO1000 and HMO3000 (Gunb)*Changed model numbers in columns to reduce the width of excel sheet. (videobruce)*Added Dimensions (WxHxD) which only had width originally. (videobruce)*Added Tektronix and Keysight 1052B models. (ez24)*Modified the columns of Digital Inputs. (ez24)*Modified from stating $300 range to $300-$500. (ez24)*Added Serial Decoding feature to the columns (ez24)*Added GW-instek GDS-1000B*Added RIGOL DS4000*Added SIGLENT SDS1000X*Added Lecroy WaveJet Touch*Added SIGLENT SDS2000X*Added LeCroy WaveAce 1000*Added LeCroy WaveAce 2000*Added LeCroy HDO4000*Included typical 4ch, 500Mhz, 5GHz Sampling models*Added R&S RTE1000*Fixed some mistekes in serial decoding section*Update the memory of Siglent SDS2000 reflecting the new V2 firmware change (rf-loop and tautech)*Added R&S RTE1000*Added Iwatsu DS-5600A*Added Keysight DSO-X 6000X*Added R&S HMO1202*Added SIGLENT SDS1000DL, SDS1000CML+, SDS1000X+*Added R&S RTM2000 by AndyP (Thank you!)*Added Micsig models by AndyP (Thank you!)*Added Many R&S models (by Rich, thank you!)*Added Keysight DSO-X 1000X*Added Tektronix TBS2000*Added Many Pico models (by ADT123, thank you!)*Updated SIGLENT models (by Siglent, thank you!)*Added RIGOL DS2000A-S (comment from Lance)*Added RIGOL 1000Z-S (and plus) models (comment from Zafrullah)*Added Function Generator feature to the column*Added and revised Keysight EDUX1000A, EDUX1000G, DSOX1100A, DSOX1100G on the chart*Added Tektronix MDO4000C and fixed the waveform update rate of TBS2000 (Comment from ErnestoFB)*Added Tektronix 5 Series MSO*Added SIGLENT SDS1104/1204X-E models*Added R&S RTC1000, RTM3000 and RTA4000*Added Keysight Infiniium S-Series*Added RIGOL DS5000, MSO5000, MSO/DS7000*Reorganized chart to able to use filter feature (Comment from bitbanger)*Fixed TDS3000C Vertical resolution is 9 bits (Comment from udou2048)*Added Keysight DSO-X 1200X*Added SIGLENT SDS2000X-E, SDS5000X*Fixed typo of "SIGLANT" to "SIGLENT" (Thanks Vell)*Added Tektronix 3 Series MDO, 4 Series MSO*Added LeCroy HDO4000A*Split Columns of Display size, resolution and touch (Comment from geirendre)*Added youtube link to SIGLENT SDS5000X*Added OWON SDS1000, XDS2000, XDS3000A, XDS3000E, XDS3000AE, XDS3200, XDS3200A, XDS3300*Added SIGLENT SDS2000X-Plus*Added LeCroy WaveSurfer3000z, WaveSurfer4000HD, HDO6000A*Added RIGOL DS1000Z-E*Updated RIGOL DS1000Z, MSODS2000A to match current lineups*Updated Keysight InfiniiVision2000X to match current specs after improvements in 2018*Added OWON USB oscilloscope series, VDS1000, VDS2000, VDS3000, VDS6000 (Thank you, @BetterAndBetter)*Added Keysight InfiniiVision1200X, EDUX1052 and improvements in Feb 2020.*Added Tektronix TBS2000B*Added PicoScope 3000, 5000D and fixes*Updates and fixes on Rohde & Schwarz*Added GW-instek MDO-2000E, MDO-2000A, GDS-3000*Added PicoScope 6000E and fixes*Added Yokogawa DLM3000*Added LeCroy T3DSO1000, T3DSO2000*Added Keysight Infiniium MXR Series*Revised Price Rage Column for filtering/sorting (Comment from Zom-B)*Added Micsig STO1000C STO1000E*Fixed spelling "capasitive" to "capacitive" (Comment from jimjam)*Started revising the descriptions of Max Sample Rate, Max Waveform Update Rate and Memory Depth to show the performance change from number of channels used.*Added Micsig MS500*Started to add ENOBS*Separating columns the models which specs differs of equipped channels*Added Tekronix 6 Series MSO*Added SDS1104X-U*Added Tekronix 6 Series MSO B*Added SDS6000A Series

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 03:06:05 pm
content: RIGOLSIGLENT

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 03:06:37 pm
content: Agilent/Keysight

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 03:07:07 pm
content: Tektronix

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 03:07:40 pm
content: LeCroy and YOKOGAWARohde & SchwarzPicoMicsigOWONGWinstek and IWATSUHantek and GRATTEN (ATTEN)

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 03:09:07 pm
content: The selection of the model is my subjective selectionSome of the comments in the chart is my subjective impression too.

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 04:39:10 pm
content: Not wanting to be harsh but I can't see the point of this table. Aside that its full of errors, what's the point of listing a few old and some newer scope models in their basic specs? You'll probably find more relevant information by 30 seconds of googling.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 05:34:33 pm
content: I didn't knew about the Yokogawa models...

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 05:39:19 pm
content: I thought the Rigol DS2000 series did have segmented memory, I've never used that feature so I don't know for sure.

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 05:41:27 pm
content: Yokogawa is nice, but expensive.I like the vertical setup, where the screen is on top of the controls.So the scope works for both left-handed and right-handed people.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 11:10:57 pm
content: It took me nearly two weeks to get to this point of chart, who never owned an oscilloscope and did not know what to look for comparing them from many models.It is good if you could fine it Google in 30 sec by yourself, but it was not for me, so I thought there are some other people like meI would like to know where is the errors, that was one of the point wanted to have as feedback.The reason of having some old model is that for example Tektronix TDS5000 series was one of the standard in the past, so I wanted to know how newer models are doing compared to it.And also having a idea to find good models on the internet auction.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 11:15:51 pm
content: Agilent/Keysight 2002A started make me as a attractive choice after I made the chart

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2015, 11:20:08 pm
content: I really would like to know whether Rigol DS2000 series have segmented memory or notI will update the chart.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 12:32:11 am
content: Quote from: Wuerstchenhund on May 22, 2015, 04:39:10 pmCompiling a chart as this is not just time consuming, it's a nightmare as it's very easy to mix specs up or enter incorrect numbers. I know because I have complied charts for spectrum analyzers and consumer DVR's. It sure as hell isn't easy.Instead of being "harsh", why not correct some of the errors that you see??

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 12:35:06 am
content: fanOfeeDIY;What software (program) did you comply the chart on? I have to assume it is a spreadsheet. if so, can you post that instead. The .jpg is hard to read since the mosquito noise is noticeable.Great job for starters. I'm sure owners of specific units will chime in and correct any errors.As a suggestion, I would try to keep a specific price range, instead of as wide of a range as you have. Placing a $400 scope in the same chart with a $14,00 isn't realistic.

author: Stupid Beard
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 12:38:02 am
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on May 22, 2015, 11:20:08 pmIt does have segmented memory, but it calls it record/replay. The 1000Z series has it also as an option.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 01:22:04 am
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on May 22, 2015, 11:20:08 pmIt does support segmented memory.If you zoom in and set the trigger you can adjust the memory depth or leave it at auto and it will show how points it will use per capture the more you zoom in the less points per segment. Of course you can set the memory depth manually.So I did setup my scope to 500 ns per division capturing the rise time of the 1KHz test signal from the scope, and I only want to capture that rise time and don't care about the rest of the wave.Mem Depth set to auto selects 14,000 points per capture and if I press the record button then I get 8128 captures of just that.If however I set it to 56,000,000 points then I can only capture 2 frames but with a ton points before and after the region of interest (trigger point).So it depends how you set the trigger, for example if you want to capture a glitch you can setup the scope so it only triggers on the glitch and you'll end up with a ton of those glitches to analyze, also by adjusting the mem depth you can get more points before and after the glitch if you need that data to analyze the glitch.More details in a review by mjlorton: Edit: it starts at 4:48 tried to get the link to start there but the embedded one starts a little early)

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 02:35:53 am
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on May 22, 2015, 03:00:39 pmYou have omitted a very well known brand, popular with members here: Siglent.http://siglentamerica.com/pd.aspx?tid=1&T=1There are several others that are also worthy of inclusion for ANY list to be considered accurate.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 03:07:11 am
content: Thank you for your all the comments, I attached my excel file at the moment.I would like to update it with correcting errors laterEDITI decided to add excel file at the first comment on this thread

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 10:08:29 am
content: fanOfeeDIY;Three suggestions;1. You should be able to edit your first posts. It would make things easier if the charts stay there so one doesn't have to wade through what should be a long thread,2. Swap the columns with the lines since you do not have as near as many specs vs models. That would make it easier to read. Trading width for height. In other words. list the manufactures on the left and the specs across the top,3. Sort by price and put the disco'ed models at the end (bottom if you do the swap).BTW, your jpg's look much better, no (or little) mosquito noise.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 11:50:53 am
content: Thank you for the comments.I just changed all the jpg files to png to reduce the misquote noise.Re-sorting by price, let me work on it tomorrow.

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 12:09:27 pm
content: Maybe I'll be derided as a Google fanboy, but you could post this on Google Drive and make it publically accessible + commentable.-- It'll be as easy to navigate as Excel, but not require a download-- People can comment on errors for you, anyone will be able to see those comments straight away, and it'll be much easier for you to address because the comments will be attached to the cells in question-- You can give temporary/permanent edit permissions to anyone who wants to fix a whole bunch of errorsEdit: Just likethis.

author: Muxr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 03:29:37 pm
content: I support this effort. I would however add Owon as well, it is the other "big" Chinese brand. Goes something like Rigol, Siglent, Owon. There is also GW-Instek and Hantek.Also:Iwatsu - JapaneseandHameg or Rohde & Schwarz (how they are called now) - is the big European brand.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 03:32:52 pm
content: rs20;Problem with that is it takes away from this forum as in a benefit for the members. IOW's it's just another reason to visit here.For that monstrous multimeter chart. That is grossly overwhelming. Too much info. I can't even imagine who long it took to compose all of that.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 03:40:58 pm
content: fanOfeeDIY;Looking better. Those manufactures Muxr gave should be included.Additional suggestions;Choose a ceiling price. Say under $2000.US (open for discussion). With the amount of choices out there that should provide enough choices and remove those higher end models, especially above $5k.Take a look through this sub-forum and note the scopes that have their own threads and ones that get mentioned a lot.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 07:12:18 pm
content: TL;DR the Rigol DS2000 series capture rate is 50,000 wfms/s not 65,000, that's the max number of waveforms it can record. Also on the DS1000Z there is no 60,000 wfms/s option that is for recording as well.Not sure how Rigol got their 65,000 wfms/s, I've never seen anything higher than 48,000 and I thought they did claim just 50,000 but not sure.Actually I did look at the specs and it's 50,000 wfms/s for the whole DS2000 series:http://www.tequipment.net/assets/1/26/DS2000A_DataSheet_EN.pdfDS1000z series capture rate is 30,000 wfms/s no option available to do more:http://www.tequipment.net/assets/1/26/MSO__DS1000Z_Datasheet-EN.pdfStill it's a useless figure because that's at 700 points Mem depth, at 1.4Kpoints it halves and at 14.0Kpoints it's 1/10th (~5,000 wfms/s), Edit: and the capture rate changes with the vertical settings as well, maybe it will reach the 50,000 at the 500uV per division at X1.At 500ns time division feeding it a 600 KHz 9Vpp sawtooth signal with the vertical set at 2 V per divisionI get a whooping 35.5 Hz No K in there. Edit:my bad, I still had the mem depth set to 56M oops, at 14kpts it's triggering at 5,000 wfms/s.So that waveform capture data spec is useless, If you want to find something you better set the trigger right, even at the full 50,000 wfms/s you will be missing quite a bit so you can't rely on the capture rate anyways.Also there are a lot of things missing in your charts.For example Analysis of recorded data with pass/fail masks.Decoding and what can it decode.LXI communicationJust to name a few.Last but not least, I only looked at the DS2000 and not in detail so it seems the document is lacking due diligence IMHO.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 08:56:52 pm
content: Quote from: videobruce on May 23, 2015, 03:32:52 pmReally, just how did you think it would be used?Select a DMM, based on local availability, price and the features you need and see how it compares against similar.We are very lucky to have this "living" document, there's nothing that can compare.

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2015, 10:16:15 pm
content: Quote from: videobruce on May 23, 2015, 03:32:52 pmEr... so you're advocating a centithread of people badgering a single person to continuously edit and re-upload an XLS on the basis that that "solution" acts as an advertisement/benefit for EEVBlog? Ridiculous.Let's focus on what is the best solution for oscilloscope selection for everyone, rather than trying to achieve some bizarre marketing goal or to deprive non-members.Finally, if you're overwhelmed by the spreadsheet, just hide columns and rows you aren't interested in. Simple.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 05:09:38 am
content: rs20;The only thing that is ridiculous is being labeled as a "supporter" when you label my suggestion of this being a benefit to this forum "ridiculous"

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 06:01:20 am
content: Quote from: videobruce on May 24, 2015, 05:09:38 amCheers, I enjoy ad hominem attacks. I'm labelled as a supporter because I am a supporter.If you could explain how making one person collate a whole bunch of suggestions from a centithread and re-upload XLSs on a regular basis is a not a far worse solution than minefor the members(let alone anyone else on the planet), then I might change my mind. I didn't label your concept as ridiculous because I don't care about the community, I did so because it's ridiculous to think that your conceptwillhelp the community.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 08:47:45 am
content: Hi all,I just sorted by prices, fixed RIGOL's waveform updates, moving discontinued models, and uploaded to google drive.It took me a while to get used to on uploading Google drive and editing on the web, but it was okAdding more models will take more times, maybe some other days, today is Sunday and have things to do

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 08:59:11 am
content: One of the reason I felt like writing on the forum is that, the eevblog is on Australia.I stayed in Australia mostly in Sydney using Working Holiday visa when I was a student long time ago.It was not every thing perfect, but I enjoyed it, learning Australian English, garbage -> rubbish, gasoline -> petrol, Theater -> Cinema and etc.Tomato is pronounced as tomato and not tomeitoI do not see much (actually any) Japanese posting here, so I guess the Australia government issued me the visa was effective for the objective.

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 08:24:40 pm
content: Quote from: videobruce on May 23, 2015, 12:32:11 amI never said it's easy.QuoteWhat for? I mean, seriously, what's the purpose of this table?You know how many scopes are out there? Even if we stay with DSOs and forego all the analog scopes this still leaves us with several hundreds of different scopes from the big brands alone. You want to stick all of them into the table? If not, which one do you want to omit, and why?And what about updating the pricing on a regular basis? And what reference location (Japan, US, Europe, Antarctica) should be used for pricing? And what sources (reseller, ebay)?I appreciate the work the OP has done but sorry I can't see what use such a table has. It lists a few very basic specs plus some subjective guesswork like "Build Quality", plus some arbitrary prices (from where? My guess is Japan but pricing there is usually pretty high and of little relevance to the rest of the world). You really want to point to this list next time a beginner asks for advice on getting a scope? There's hardly enough information to for anyone to decide for the right scope, simply because there are many more factors involved than what are listed as categories on this table. It won't even help a beginner because he'll probably know even less of what the scopes in particular can do and what not as the more experienced members, and in the end will just create confusion and frustration. Talk about providing a dis-service here.There's a reason why the current system (people come here, list their individual requirements, and get advice based on that) works very well. I really can't remember a single time when someone said "oh, I wished we had a list with the most basic specs of all oscilloscopes". Such a table may have some use for simpler instruments like handheld DMMs, but DSOs are much more complex.Again, I appreciate that creating the tables took a lot of work, but in my opinion this is a 'solution' in search of a problem. And useful participation in communities is like these doesn't mean just doing 'something', it means addressing an actual problem. And I'm sorry but I can't see the absence of such a table as a problem.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 08:49:57 pm
content: QuoteA starting and/or reference point..QuoteToo many.Both of those comments apply to that multimeter table, if not more so. Then why do we need a 'sticky' on multmeters?If you narrow it down to the most current, name brands available In Australia, Europe, the UK, the US & Canada in a middle price range, say $500 to $1500 (give or take), I'm sure the list would be substantially less than those multimeters. beside, just because you don't feel a need, I'm sure others do.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 08:52:51 pm
content: Quote from: Wuerstchenhund on May 24, 2015, 08:24:40 pmIMHO such a list is nice to have because it offers an overview of what is out there. I'm sure it will point people to brands or types they didn't know about.

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 09:01:17 pm
content: One thing that would be nice to include would be the rebranded model names and numbers, Rigol and Siglent both do this. Lecroy does Siglent, B&K, Atten (mostly Siglent I think), Agilent is Rigol.I'm sure there are variances, Siglent makes a 2 part firmware to allow manufacturers to keep logo's and such in place. Power supplies may have better caps and so on, but that would actually have to be verified.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 10:26:17 pm
content: QuoteThere is always a first time and judging by the response were, it already happened.More complex instruments are more of a reason for a chart, not less.

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2015, 11:57:00 pm
content: Quote from: videobruce on May 24, 2015, 10:26:17 pmAgreed, for all the complexity of oscilloscopes, you can really summarize the basic things you can achieve with that oscilloscope by stating bandwidth, sample rate, record length, waveforms/second.So having a place to go where you can say (e.g.) "I don't want to spend more than $1.5k, need 500 MHz, 4 channels, what's my shortlist of models" is obviously very handy.

author: Hydrawerk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2015, 12:22:50 am
content: I think that most Tektronix scopes donothave a segmented memory.

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2015, 12:27:43 am
content: Quote from: rs20 on May 24, 2015, 11:57:00 pmI would add serial decoding and intensity graded display to that basic features list.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2015, 04:03:40 am
content: QuoteOh, like you did to me by throwing the first stone? Then, it looks like you do along with your sophisticated terminology.

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2015, 04:06:48 am
content: Quote from: videobruce on May 25, 2015, 04:03:40 amI criticized your idea, not you. You still haven't defended your idea.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2015, 04:15:55 am
content: No need to, a number of others already have.

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2015, 04:39:30 am
content: videobruce, Taking this off-thread because clearly there's been a miscommunication where you don't realize I'm advocating Google Drive vs XLS centithread -- this distinction hasnotbeen mentioned in this thread since my message, except for the OP saying he's done it.

author: rf-loop
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2015, 07:57:48 am
content: Quote from: Hydrawerk on May 25, 2015, 12:22:50 amEven my 20years old TDS520A have FastFrame (aka segmented memory) acquisition. It can do it max 50k frames/s.Of course it is very limited if compare to today Siglent SDS2000 what can do up to 400k segment/s (400k waveforms/s) including also every segment time stamps. Without time stamps segmented memory acquisition is very limited. (also Rigol DS2000 do not have time stamp what makes its useability very limited.)

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 25, 2015, 12:22:07 pm
content: Hi all,Thank you for the all comments.Today is my weekday, so I have limited time to work on this, but I learned a lot since I posted my initial chart on Friday night.(*)Correcting incorrect value on segmented memory and waveforme update rates on RIGOLs.(*)Initially I had features on the left and models on the top but changing the horizontal and vertical of the cart makes significantly better chart.(*)Learned how to use segmented memory on RIGOL.(*)Uploading image with png reduces mosquito noise than jpg.(*)I was able to add SIGLENT in the chart.(*)Owen, Hantek, GW-instek and Iwatsu are others to add in the chart.(*)Learned how to use excel, Google drive, and edit on the Google drive.(*)Sorting the chart by price is much better, since the price is probably the most interest in the chart.(*)Japanese member "mojo-chan" is posting a lot on eevblog.Pretty good experience to learn for me in a few days.I am happy that I posted my chart.Also, I added to the first post, this is the link to the Google drive, which I am expecting for people to add comments.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtPqMAkNw2bSkqocuc7zcYkl57fsdPVlxzyqcJmbKIc/edit?usp=sharing

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 25, 2015, 12:34:32 pm
content: Hi rf-loop,Do you mind teaching me all the Tektronix models in the chart has FastFrame (segmented memory) or not?I would like to update the chat.The word FastFrame is another word I learned today.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 26, 2015, 09:13:25 am
content: Just added models by Hantek, GW-instek and IWATSU.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2015, 10:27:26 am
content: fanOfeeDIY;I would limit the chart to stand along bench scopes. No PC or handheld. There are just too many models with just those others.Those other categories should have there own list.Eliminate those 5" cheapo's and put a ceiling around $1500. Some of those names have way to many just by themselves.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 27, 2015, 12:47:28 pm
content: Hi,I added a column for whether has separated individual vertical knobs for each channels or sharing among channels, based on the feedback.Having separated knobs for each channels seem to be interested for some people which improve usability.I updated the first post with changes.I tried to add OWEN and GRATTEN but not today.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 29, 2015, 10:32:58 am
content: Hi,I added Changelog (credits) to the first post who helped improved the chart.Thank you all.I was thinking to add OWEN and GTATTEN today but almost 8:00pm already so probably I will do it later.Also I have many suggestions from videobruce to reflect on the chart.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 29, 2015, 03:25:38 pm
content: I made this chart in old style and lost the chance to upload it.It might be useful for some one, so I would uploaded it anyway.GWinstek and IWATSU.EDIT: I moved the chart to the first page.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2015, 08:50:32 pm
content: I would like to see this in the format and placement as the multimeter listThe feature that was the most useful for me was the "filters". I got 2 meters based on the list using the filters

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 07:57:18 am
content: I did not have much time to work on the chart yesterday, but I added Imperial on the size and the weight, which could be beneficial since most of the datasheets are in Metric.

author: ralphrmartin
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 12:17:19 pm
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on May 24, 2015, 08:59:11 amWhat do you mean? That's BRITISH English. The Australians use it unlike the Americans who can't even speak properly.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 12:46:46 pm
content: QuoteAt least we don't have an accent.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 08:04:13 am
content: I added OWON and GRATTEN (ATTEN),probably I will work on the columns of links on eevblog next and build quality.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 11:13:08 am
content: I added Keysight DSO1002A. I would like to add links in the eevblog (removing the columns of tear down videos) and spec of filters but not sure when.

author: marmad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2015, 04:21:12 pm
content: Quote from: rf-loop on May 25, 2015, 07:57:48 amHuh? What are you talking about? Of course it does. It displays the starting clock time of the sequence plus the delta offset time for each segment. Perhaps not the handiest method for someone interested in immediately seeing the exact clock time for a particular segment (you have to do the math), but handier for noticing (delta) differences between various triggered segments.OTOH, the Rigol DS2000 has an extremely handy way to quickly move through the +65k segments it can capture, while the Siglent SDS2000... well, let's just say that the last time I checked, moving through it's +400k segments was excruciating (and so almost worthless). Have they fixed that yet?

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 13, 2015, 06:55:41 am
content: HiAdded Rohde & Schwarz (HAMEG) to the charts in the first few pages.

author: videobruce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 13, 2015, 11:44:48 am
content: This needs to be a sticky!

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2015, 07:43:48 am
content: As this is now sticky the chart might be used for many years. I would suggesta) add year of market entry of a scopeb) add year of market exitIt helps people to decide how matured a scope is and if it is worth to invest in it or betterYou may use the collumn "obsolete" for this. Examples: "2014-" or "2005-2009"

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 28, 2015, 05:20:59 am
content: Thank you Pinkus, I will add them when I make my spare time. I also have some pending suggestions from videobruce.

author: Gunb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2015, 06:56:43 am
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on June 13, 2015, 06:55:41 amEntry with "Segmented memory - YES" is wrong. The HMO1002 does not have segmented memory, there's also no option available. Only HMO 3xxx do.Kind rgdsGunb

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 05, 2015, 02:13:01 pm
content: Thank you for your comment, Gunb!I just updated the columns for HMO1000 and HMO3000 of Rohde & Schwarz.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2015, 04:19:32 pm
content: Addition suggestion :http://www.amazon.com/Tektronix-TBS1052B-EDU-Oscilloscope-Sampling-Warranty/dp/B00KAKI58Y/ref=lp_2530599011_1_7?srs=2530599011&ie=UTF8&qid=1436111545&sr=8-7This is a Tektronix for $520Also suggest move row 2 under row 3. I see the $300 heading above the titles (excel version). Also suggest you put the price range and not just the lowest price. For example $300-$500 instead of just $300, this threw me for a few seconds.E4 and E5 show cell contents as "rigolna" I see this and the price ??If looking for more workhow about put in links to the manuals. For my short list this took a little work to do. And the reason I read all the manuals of the ones in my price range is I was looking for I2C decoding and the only one that had anything in the manual was the Rigol 1000 series. Another suggestion include the I2C option in a column, I think this would set many apart from each other (or one of the other options from Rigol based on demand).Also for digital inputs I would changeN/A MSO...toMSO models onlyAlso when you put in Used Ebay prices be sure to search on SOLD listings (on the left side) to get a more accurate price. For example you have Tek TDS5000 series around $4000. Here are two that sold for about $1700 eachhttp://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=HP+3478A&_sop=15&LH_Auction=1&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xtds5000.TRS0&_nkw=tds5000&_sacat=0Read the description of the second one and see what happened to the seller - scarey for a seller. A buyer ripped the guts out of his scope and mailed it back to him

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 13, 2015, 11:38:04 am
content: Thanks for the suggestions, ez24.I just only updated the file on the Google drive right now based on your comments.I will update the JPG and excel files later this week when I make my spare time.When I started to make this chart, the Bandwidth, Analog inputs and Sample-Rate were relatively easy since they were written on datasheets or brochures on most of the models.But Waveform Update Rate, Segmented Memory, Intensity Gradings and etc were difficult because I had to go through downloading all the manuals and go through them.I hoping this chart will be useful for the forum so people do not have to do the same.The filters, serial/protocol decoding and more links in eevblog are something I would like to add in the future.But these are the one which are really time consuming, which requires reading all the manuals,and some times it changes at firmware updates.I would appreciate comments from the people who knows about them or the owners.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2015, 06:07:01 pm
content: QuoteI know, I had to read several manuals myself to find I2C that I could afford.As a suggestion you could try and ask a question on one model of scope at a time on this blog. Then in your spreadsheet put an "*" in the column heading and at the bottom state that this information came from users of this forum.Start at the top of your list and work your way down one at a time. I would start a new topic on each one with a link to your spreadsheet and an explanation on what you are doing. If you try under this topic it will get buried. Try one scope every day or so and see what happens. Keep the questions short and simple. Good luck

author: _Harry_
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2015, 06:10:01 pm
content: @fanOfeeDIY:Thanks for the charts and the time/effort you've spent for collecting the spec data.I just came too late on that forum; it would have been much of help for me as I started to search my scope.Even if it not 100% perfect, it's quite good if one is searching for a scope with certain capabilities. I've made my similar comparison chart last weeks.Btw.: My winner = Keysight MSOX3024T 200MHz / 5GSa/s 4ACH+16DigitalCH (SW bundle promotion till 30 Nov. 2015)(the 3022T/3024T could also be good for you chart, as they are 200MHz "entry level" BW models of the infiniiVision 3000 X series)

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 19, 2015, 01:58:57 pm
content: Hi videobruce and ez24,It is not finished but I updated the excel file and JPG on the first post.ez24:I will start asking in the forum for adding serial/protocol decoding feature and etc when I finish updating the excel file.thanks for the suggestions.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 20, 2015, 12:52:59 pm
content: Hi,I started to add a column for Serial Protocol Decoding feature for the models, but I need the help from the people in the forum to fill out the blanks.Please add if you know which Serial Analysis the model supports, to the file on the Google drive or past them in this thread.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2015, 12:59:13 pm
content: Siglent SDS2000 series:I2C, SPI, UART/RS232, CAN and LIN

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2015, 10:04:02 pm
content: Thanks for the comparison data. Very helpful.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2015, 12:56:15 am
content: QuoteI suggest that you start a new post on each model of each brand. Say what you are doing and include a link to the spreadsheet and this thread. I do not think you will get much response otherwise.I can say the Rigol DS1054z has serial decoding as an option.To keep it simpler you could just say "Serial" instead of all the types. If someone was interested they could do their own research to which kind of protocol. That is the way I found the Rigol. I downloaded all the manuals for scopes under $400 and looked in the index for the word "serial". The Rigol was the only one that had that word in their index. So if you have to do this research, try this method.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 22, 2015, 03:07:23 am
content: Thank you tautech,I updated the file in Google drive for the Siglent SDS2000 series.I will reflect them when I regenerate JPG and excel next time.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 22, 2015, 03:13:26 am
content: Thank you _Harry_ and bitseeker.Your words boot my motivation updating this chart.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 22, 2015, 03:19:45 am
content: That is good idea ez24,Hi anybody in EEVblog forum,If you know (or own) the Rigol DS1000E series, about Serial Decoding feature the model supports,do you mind adding comments to the file on the Google drive or past them in this thread?It will be helpful to know, which serial is standard feature and which are options.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 16, 2015, 10:30:26 am
content: Hi,I added serial decoding columns on the chart in the first post.Hope it helps.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 17, 2015, 10:14:46 am
content: Added GW-instek GDS-1000B to the sheet in the first post.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2015, 07:33:38 pm
content: Hi fanOfeeDIYI am curious is this an academic or commercial project, since this is taking you a massive amount of time.If you ever finish, I feel that you could do some other people a service by going down on your prices. However this would be difficult because you will be getting into the Ebay and Aliexpress level scopes and their lack of specs and weird names. Also there will be a lack of interest and help on this forum (it is too advance for low price scopes). For example I got a DSO 112 from Singapore for $60 and I think it is a fine scope that meets it specs (4 MHz bandwidth).Also if you get into cheap battery powered scopes pay attention if they come with the battery. If you order a DSO112 from China or Amazon it will not have a battery but from Singapore it will have one and you cannot just "buy" one.Keep up the good work.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 07:06:18 am
content: HiJust in case some day you want to include USB scopes here is a quote from Howardlong:QuoteI think Dave did a video on it.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 12:47:28 pm
content: Hi ez24,QuoteI just started this chart completely for selecting an oscilloscope for my hobby use.Then after I posted it here on the eevblog, it kept growing.My old image of the oscilloscope when I was in high school,the price of the oscilloscope was more than the price of a new car.But when I heard the rumor that the oscilloscope became more affordable,I realized that there were too many models and could not figure out whichwill suit me. This is how I made my initial chart.I am working as a software engineer andearning income for my family is high priority task for me at the moment.But I am happy to update the chart in my spare time.I do not think I have enough time for battery powered scopes and PC based scopes right now,and it is something I need to consider in the future.If the spreadsheet helps any other people in this forum for considering thescope or any manufacture for their development, I am just happy.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 09:40:55 am
content: Added RIGOL DS4000 series.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 08:21:22 pm
content: QuoteSo what did you get? Or have you been too busy to buy one

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 02, 2015, 06:15:12 am
content: Added SIGLENT SDS1000X

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 02, 2015, 06:17:12 am
content: QuoteNot yet, making the chart became my hobby at the moment

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2015, 10:35:22 pm
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on September 02, 2015, 06:17:12 amHow funnyLet us know if you get one.Seems like months ago someone came to this forum showing their new web site on scopes and asking for comments. Seems they got ripped to spreads and I cannot find the URL. It is possible that one criticism was they did not have info on current scopes which you do.So perhaps you could start your own web site and make some $ from ads, using the info you are gathering. I suggest you collect links to all the docs you find.

author: marmad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2015, 10:58:06 pm
content: Quote from: McCarthy on September 06, 2015, 10:50:06 pmIt depends what you need it for. I wouldn't trade my DS2000 for a DS1000Z. I rarely ever need 4 channels, and I much prefer the extras on the DS2000.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 16, 2015, 12:11:53 pm
content: Hi,Added Lecroy WaveJet Touch to the chart in the first post.

author: bsmith
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 14, 2015, 08:14:52 pm
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on September 16, 2015, 12:11:53 pmfanOfeeDIY, I have been lurking for awhile on this fourm but finally decided to officially join so that I could express my great appreciation for all your efforts on compiling digital oscilloscope information. I will be buying an oscilloscope soon and your compilation has made the process more fun and so much easier than trying to individually google all the possible candidates. I hope you can keep this up as I am sure there are many more like me who have benefited from your efforts but haven't said anything yet.As many have said on this forum, the DS1054Z is a tremendous value, but I can afford more than that (about $1500 USD) and just can't figure out what the best buy is at that level. The main problem for me on that as a beginner in electronics is trying to predict what features I will want the most in the future. Is it more bandwidth, number of channels, waveform update rate, memory depth, etc. that will be most important. And maybe I need to consider buying a used scope like a DS4000 for the same money to make sure I have plenty of features in reserve for future needs. Its a tricky situation to figure out, but your compilation has helped so much. Thanks again!

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 19, 2015, 02:39:20 pm
content: Hi bsmith,Thank you for your kind message.I am really busy these day and I am really glad to know that my effort of making this chart have beneficial to people in the forum.Also good to have more people joining this fantastic forum.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 05, 2015, 01:59:46 pm
content: Hi,I added SIGLENT SDS2000X.

author: stts
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2015, 09:09:58 am
content: Hello. I am new here and thank the poster for this chart. I also am looking for a new DSO to replace my os310m. My scope died when the PLD chip started drawing too much current. I like the idea of hacking one of these cheap scopes to max out the features. Is there a favorite that people find most hackable for the price? I will be most interested in maxing out bandwidth and memory depth.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 20, 2015, 03:30:48 pm
content: Hi,I added:LeCroy WaveAce 1000LeCroy WaveAce 2000LeCroy HDO4000

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 20, 2015, 03:34:33 pm
content: I included typical 4ch, 500Mhz and 5GS/s Sampling models

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 20, 2015, 03:44:52 pm
content: Hi stts,I see many active posts of hacking software on some Rigol and Agilent/Keysight models in this forum.I think I saw a few posts for Siglent too but I am not sure.Please have fun for searching the forum of eevblog.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2015, 08:44:14 pm
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on December 20, 2015, 03:44:52 pmNot for DSO's YET.SDG2042X AWG, yes.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2015, 02:01:10 pm
content: Quote from: stts on December 12, 2015, 09:09:58 amIt seems like Tektronix MDO3000 is discussed about hacking in this forum too.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2016, 12:11:55 pm
content: Hi,I added R&S RTE1000.Fixed some mistakes in serial decoding.

author: rf-loop
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2016, 06:03:27 pm
content: There is obsolete information in Siglent SDS2000 data.Memory is not anymore 28M. It is 70M. (and it is same also for all old units, not only new units)

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2016, 06:59:23 pm
content: Quote from: rf-loop on January 11, 2016, 06:03:27 pm+1The new V2 FW enabled the increased memory and while datasheets and websites are yet to be updated I can confirm new SDS2000 series DSO's are now shipped from the factory with this new FW installed.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 12, 2016, 03:19:00 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on January 11, 2016, 06:59:23 pmThank you rf-loop and tautech regarding SDS2000!I will update the chart

author: smarteebit
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2016, 07:24:19 am
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on May 22, 2015, 03:00:39 pmThank you for the summary. It should be very useful for people who has the plan to purchase a DSO.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 16, 2016, 02:02:33 pm
content: Quote from: smarteebit on January 14, 2016, 07:24:19 amThank you smarteebit!

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 16, 2016, 02:03:45 pm
content: Hi rf-loop and tautech,I just updated the chart of the spec of Siglent SDS2000.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 24, 2016, 07:41:29 am
content: Hi,Added R&S RTE1000Added Iwatsu DS-5600AAdded KeySight DSO-X 6000X

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 11:00:08 am
content: Hi,Added R&S HMO1200.

author: broz
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 05:39:35 pm
content: Thanks for this! Was/am pretty set on purchasing the Rigol 1054Z once the funds are available; or an inexpensive, lightly used analog scope; whichever comes first (starving EE student), however this has given me more to consider.

author: lesk
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 20, 2016, 12:39:49 am
content: Thanks for this, I'm in the market for a Scope and this have been very helpful.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2016, 08:44:24 am
content: Hi borz and lesk,You are most welcome.I initially wanted to add few columns more but am bit busy and not able to do it.I will update this chart one by one.Hoping good for your study and your bossiness.

author: Mosaic
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 09, 2016, 08:59:37 am
content: With well calibrated leveled sine wave gens, SG503 and SG504 (TEK) using my custom made remote head for flatness <0.1dB @ the scope BNC I re-evaluated the 'upgraded' Rigol bandwidth.Figures of merit:150Mhz - Rigol is still accurate matching the Vpp of the signal.300Mhz - Rigol is down 2dB in amplitude.400 Mhz - Rigol is down 3dB in amplitude.I'd go with using it to 175Mhz max as reasonably accurate. Start factoring in losses past that.This cross reference check matches quite well with the VNA results.

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 11, 2016, 10:25:25 am
content: Quote from: Mosaic on April 09, 2016, 08:59:37 amYour comment seems to have come out of the blue? What's the context here?Anyway, you do realise that scope bandwidth is defined as the -3dB bandwidth, right? So according to your figures (what scope are you even talking about?), the scope has a bandwidth of 400 MHz, which is pretty good if we're talking about a DS2302A that claims only 300 MHz.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2016, 07:48:32 am
content: Can I suggest some edits to Siglent model data.There has been a number of enhancements recently added to two series of Siglent DSO's namely the SDS1000+ and SDS1000X+.The SDS1000+ range now sports a 800x480 display and LAN.http://www.siglent.com/ENs/pdxx.aspx?id=1428&T=2&tid=1The SDS1000X+ range now has 16 digital channels and supports I2C,SPI,UART/RS232,CAN,LIN decoding, further protocols than you have listed in the tables.http://www.siglent.com/ENs/pdxx.aspx?id=1451&T=2&tid=1Thanks in advance.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 21, 2016, 03:31:03 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on June 09, 2016, 07:48:32 amThank you tautech.I have not updated the chart nearly 5 months.I will probably update the chart this weekend.Best,

author: Mosaic
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2016, 01:37:02 am
content: At 175Mhz the amplitude 'losses' are small and the scope's peak to peak can be considered reliable. While the industry rates bandwidth performance at 3dB down, I prefer to know the absolute values of what is being measured. Also note the captioned heading of my post "DS2072A to DS2302A 'upgrade' to know what I am referring to.Quote from: rs20 on May 11, 2016, 10:25:25 am

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 10, 2016, 02:44:49 am
content: Quote from: Mosaic on July 07, 2016, 01:37:02 amOK, just so long as you realise that individually "correcting" every single scope's bandwidth on the market is a fools errand. Bandwidth isdefinedas the -3dB point, this is a global standard across filters, amplifiers, ADCs, oscilloscopes, etc. Maybe I'm misreading, but you seem to be insinuating (e.g., with the quotes you place around 'upgrade') that "the industry" is pulling a dirty trick here, while it's actually conforming to a universal standard. It'd be weird if the pre-upgrade 70 MHz scope measured 70 MHz "correctly".Put simply, if you upgrade a scope to 300 MHz and expect amplitudes to be accurate at 299 MHz, your expectationsare wrong. It's an understandable 'trap for young players', but that's not the fault of the industry, nor any particular company. Defining the bandwidth of an RC filter would be a pain otherwise.

author: Mosaic
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 10, 2016, 08:14:31 pm
content: It's a 'trap' I did fall into years ago when I purchased my first scope, believing it would read amplitude correctly at the rated bandwidth.While 3dB is an industry standard, so was feet and inches until the world went metric. Hopefully 100Mhz BW will actually mean 100Mhz BW @ full amplitude one day.I am not insinuating it I am saying it loud and clear. 100MHz BW should mean exactly that as far as the instrument accuracy goes. Not half down the power scale. Or perhaps the units should be labeled100Mhz at half true power readings.I worked in the advertising industry for a long time as a production engineer and the ambiguity found in so called engineering disciplines and nomenclature is unpleasant.The industry does specify RF amplifiers at 1dB compression point for nonlinearity as well as the IP3 point. So it's not as though these things are unimportant.The status quo always needs upgrading as technology moves ahead.

author: marmad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 10, 2016, 09:01:35 pm
content: Quote from: Mosaic on July 10, 2016, 08:14:31 pmThe problem is that even if there are agreed upon 'best practices' for designating specifications, many manufacturers won't follow those practices to either try to make their gear look competitive against better equipment, or to hide flaws.An old favorite of mine is the frequency response of a sound system (or amp or loudspeaker, etc). Many manufacturers list this without a specified decibel range - which makes the specification meaningless.Or a new favorite is the wfrm/s specification of DSOs. Some people know that this typically means the fastest possible rate at just one particular scale setting with sin(x)/x turned off (i.e. dots mode), but it's not always specified (or if it is, it's hidden in footnotes), so other buyers don't have a clue - leading to YouTube videos of consumers complaining that their DSO is not achieving the advertised speed.

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2016, 12:32:24 am
content: Quote from: Mosaic on July 10, 2016, 08:14:31 pmOK, for a start, what does "full amplitude mean"? I'm going to pretend you wrote something actually measurable there, like 0.1dB.So, should Horowitz and Hill update their definition of bandwidth/corner-frequency? From BW = 1/(2*pi*R*C) to BW" @ 0.1dB" = <hacky correction factor>/RC? From a beautifully elegant definition of the point where the reactances of the R and the C are equal, to some hacky pragmatic definition optimized for confused oscilloscope buyers?Shall we redefine spectral linewidth of laser to not be the FWHM measurement (which is another word for -3dB)? Acoustic systems? Mechanical filters?Or should we do the most horrible thing of all, and redefine bandwidth to mean @ 0.1dB for oscilloscope only? WTF?Quote from: Mosaic on July 10, 2016, 08:14:31 pmGuess what. 100 MHz bandwidthmeans100Mhz at half true power readings. That's just exactly what it means, and always has. You suggest the scopes should have "100Mhz at half true power readings" printed on them. That's what they already have written on them, unlessyoumake unwarranted and wrong assumptions about what the word "bandwidth" means, and always has meant.Quote from: Mosaic on July 10, 2016, 08:14:31 pmAmbiguity?Ambiguity? Bandwidth isunambiguouslythe -3dB point, across all engineering disciplines. You're trying to introduce the ambiguity here by proposing an alternativeQuote from: Mosaic on July 10, 2016, 08:14:31 pmWTF? Is there aprecedentfor measuring non-linearity at the "3dB compression point"? Like the innumerable precedents for -3dB as a bandwidth measurements, e.g. elegant formulas for such a thing in Horowitz and Hill? The very same datasheets for RF amplifiers still specify the bandwidth at -3dB, with perfect consistency with the definition of bandwidth in the rest of engineering. Your analogy makes no sense. Engineers understand and expect the bandwidth to be 3dB down, so that's what datasheets provide. Engineers understand and expect the non-linearity to be measured at the stated point, so that's what datasheets provide.Quote from: Mosaic on July 10, 2016, 08:14:31 pmThe "improvements" that you propose are far, far more confusing and ugly than the reality we have today. Only when viewed through the tunnel-vision of oscilloscope buying does it evenslightlymake sense, and even then it's completely at odds with all we've all learned about filters bandwidths and spectral linewidths, not to mention other fields of engineering. I can't stress this enough, your campaign to redefine the word "bandwidth" will most surely fail. I encourage you to bringyourdefinition into line with the rest of the world.Edit: besides, even a scope that was "100 MHz" by your definition would not handle 90 MHz square waves properly. Is that an oscilloscope manufacturer scam as well, now? You can't get away from it, there's no substitute for actual understanding.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 17, 2016, 09:03:20 am
content: Quote from: tautech on June 09, 2016, 07:48:32 amHi tautech,I finally updated the chart.Please let me know if you find any mistake.

author: Blisk
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2016, 09:22:05 pm
content: So as far as I see from these tables most what I can get in range Starting 600 USD - 1,100 USD modelsIs Siglent SDS2000X

author: joetinkerer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 09, 2016, 09:50:36 pm
content: Actually, a lot of the Siglent models are on sale at the moment so not quite as much as you thought blisk.bit.ly/digital-oscilloscopesThe chart seems a good idea and a great way to compare models & manufacturers.

author: alex27riva
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 19, 2016, 09:05:39 pm
content: Hi, the Rigol DS1052E still a good oscilloscope for a beginner?I need the oscilloscope for hobby purposes, I don't have special needs.I will use this oscilloscope for testing oscillator circuits, Arduino signals, NE555, filters and so on.

author: Fsck
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2016, 09:09:13 pm
content: Quote from: alex27riva on December 19, 2016, 09:05:39 pmnot unless it's like a quarter the price of a 1054z. the msrp of the 1054 is like 400$ and the 1052 is like 300$.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2016, 10:31:00 pm
content: Quote from: alex27riva on December 19, 2016, 09:05:39 pmIt's very old now. 2 channels, small screen. A DS1054Z isMUCHbetter for not much more money. Especially for Arduinos where 4 channels is much more useful.

author: broz
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 06:13:29 pm
content: I wonder how the DS1054Z will stack up against Keysight's new DSOX1102G? Perhaps a comparison is in order...

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 03, 2017, 06:50:59 am
content: I have not updated this chart for more than a half of year.*Added R&S RTM2000 by AndyP (Thank you!)*Added Micsig models by AndyP (Thank you!)*Added Keysight DSO-X 1000X

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 03, 2017, 06:57:11 am
content: I really need to add a column for function genAnd Tektronix TBS2000 is missing too.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2017, 07:13:27 am
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on March 03, 2017, 06:57:11 amInclude SDS1000X+ with FG std and SDS2000X with FG as option, please.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2017, 08:47:21 am
content: Finally added Tektronix TBS2000.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2017, 09:00:10 am
content: Need helpI added columns for function gen and LAN I/F on the google spreadsheet.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtPqMAkNw2bSkqocuc7zcYkl57fsdPVlxzyqcJmbKIc/edit#gid=197124678Please add your comment if you know the models whether they have function gen and/or LAN I/F.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 05, 2017, 11:37:26 pm
content: What's the best way to add edits?For the Keysight EDU 1000 X-SeriesAdd:Memory is per channel instead of total(EDUXEMBD) for protocol option nameFunction generator: Yes ("G" models only)I'm working on finding the # of intensity levels.URL for the 1000X here:http://bit.ly/1000X-Series

author: rs20
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2017, 12:48:16 am
content: Quote from: Keysight_DanielBogdanoff on April 05, 2017, 11:37:26 pmI believe anyone can add comments to the doc, that's most likely the easiest way for all involved.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 06, 2017, 11:35:01 am
content: Quote from: Keysight_DanielBogdanoff on April 05, 2017, 11:37:26 pmHello Daniel,Thank you and I am really happy for your interest on the chart.This is the link to the google drive of the chart and I will send you PM.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtPqMAkNw2bSkqocuc7zcYkl57fsdPVlxzyqcJmbKIc/editThank you again,

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2017, 06:51:49 pm
content: Typo in several rows on the chart: Dicontinued in place of DiscontinuedThanks for the chart!

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 10, 2017, 12:45:59 pm
content: Quote from: bitwelder on April 06, 2017, 06:51:49 pmHi bitwelder,Thank you for letting me know the misspelling on the chart.I really appreciate your feedback since it is difficult to have very honest comments.I updated the google drive.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtPqMAkNw2bSkqocuc7zcYkl57fsdPVlxzyqcJmbKIc/edit?usp=sharingI will reflected the images of the chart when I have a time to generate png files.Thank you again

author: ErnestoFB
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 19, 2017, 04:56:25 am
content: Hi,I might be wrong, but Tektronix ensures 10,000 wfm/s in TBS2000 series datasheet, the search buttons is finally enabled, Hi res mode and the brightness is adjustable in firmware version V1.23.

author: ErnestoFB
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 19, 2017, 05:01:47 am
content: I admit that I am a defender of Tektronix products because I have only had wonderful experiences with their products since 2012, when I bought my first scope, a TDS1012C-EDU. However, my opinion may be subject to errors like any other

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 02:18:50 pm
content: Quote from: ErnestoFB on July 19, 2017, 04:56:25 amHi ErnestoFB,Thank you for your information about the TBS2000.It is just my excuse but I am way behind updating the chart these days.Please wait for me to block my time in my spare time.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

author: Yacko1975
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 06:14:45 pm
content: Thanks for the great list this really helped me in my search for a digital oscilloscope.

author: cellularmitosis
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 09, 2017, 10:37:50 pm
content: I picked up a DSO112A for $70 and it seems to be the first sub-$100 scope which isn't total crap. 2MHz, single channel.Marco Reps just made a video on it:https://youtu.be/fGU9LoEpQFw

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 10, 2017, 01:11:26 am
content: Yeah, saw that. For those who want to get started fixing old radios, 2 MHz is more useful than the cheaper 200 kHz versions.What do you have planned for it?

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 27, 2017, 01:20:40 pm
content: I was finally able to update the chart after nearly 5 month silence.*Added Many Pico models (by ADT123, thank you!)*Updated SIGLENT models (by Siglent, thank you!)*Added RIGOL DS2000A-S (comment from Lance)*Added RIGOL 1000Z-S (and plus) models (comment from Zafrullah)*Added Function Generator feature to the column*Added and revised EDUX1000A, EDUX1000G, DSOX1100A, DSOX1100G on the chartHappy to have PicoScope==EditedFixed typo of SIGLANT to SIGLENT. thanks Vell.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 28, 2017, 12:29:11 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on May 25, 2015, 01:27:58 pmYour idea became true, finally

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 28, 2017, 12:32:56 pm
content: Quote from: ErnestoFB on July 19, 2017, 04:56:25 amHi ErnestoFB, I will focus on updating Tektronix models on next updates.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 04, 2017, 01:30:34 pm
content: Quote from: ErnestoFB on July 19, 2017, 04:56:25 amHi ErnestoFB,I am working full day on a day time and do not know when I could have a slot for working on the chart.Do you mind adding comments directly to the google drive?https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtPqMAkNw2bSkqocuc7zcYkl57fsdPVlxzyqcJmbKIc/edit#gid=197124678I will incorporate the comments in the chart for next update.

author: transistor12
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 09:17:41 pm
content: Wonderful.

author: peter198400000
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 13, 2017, 11:18:29 am
content: I donot know?why tektronix got tbs series for insulting their reputaion?such a bad product with terrible experience can kill any R&D engineer's skill?and making troubles for their job?

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2017, 06:32:01 am
content: Quote from: ErnestoFB on July 19, 2017, 04:56:25 amThank you for the information, i found the link to the datasheet.http://direct.tek.com/sites/tek.com/files/media/media/resources/TBS2K_compare_chart.pdfI am updating the Tektronix series today. Please wait.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2017, 11:34:25 pm
content: Hi,Added Tektronix MDO4000C and fixed the waveform update rate or TBS2000.Thank you for the comment from ErnestoFB

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2017, 01:09:09 pm
content: Added Tektronix 5 Series MSO

author: Arjen_Arg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2017, 04:18:03 pm
content: This is really great, thank you for your work!

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2017, 09:53:57 pm
content: Quote from: Arjen_Arg on November 18, 2017, 04:18:03 pmYou are most welcome

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2017, 10:16:58 pm
content: In the next few days there'll be other Siglents to add to the list, please keep an eye out for them to appear on Siglent websites. 4 channel X-E models, SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E.TIA.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2017, 10:34:29 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on November 25, 2017, 10:16:58 pmThank you for the infoI will check the website.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 02:03:06 pm
content: HiI Added SIGLANT SDS1104/1204X-E models.May be the next is Uni-T?

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 02:10:51 pm
content: I also see the limitation of the chart since all the Oscilloscope have different characteristics just can not be compared by the chart.I might need to add comments section.Some Tektronix have superb Spectrum Analyzer.Some has one ADC shared with all channel which reduces the sampling rate from 1G, 500M, 150M respectively with using 1ch, 2ch, 4ch at the same time while other has two ADC or have noe sampling rate drop for 4 channels.No information about FFT feature in the chart and etc.

author: cowasaki
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2018, 10:41:56 pm
content: Sorry if I've missed it in all the posts but what about the scopes from UNI-T I know they are not maybe considered a top brand but I have a UNI-T UTD4202C 200MHz digital storage scope with logic analyser and I've found it very useable. If I could have afforded a Fluke or some other brand like that I would have done!

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 03:10:03 pm
content: Quote from: cowasaki on January 14, 2018, 10:41:56 pmI would like to have UNI-T in the chart.I also do not seem to have reflected the changes of the price and default options on ds1054z.Would you like to add comments for UNI-T in the charthttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtPqMAkNw2bSkqocuc7zcYkl57fsdPVlxzyqcJmbKIc/edit?usp=sharing

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 19, 2018, 12:25:29 pm
content: The R&S RTC1000, RTM3000 and RTA4000 are added.Thank you for improving the chart.

author: timkoers
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2018, 09:42:18 pm
content: It looks like you forgot the Siglent SDS-1204X-E, or did you just not put it in there because it virtually has the same specs as the SDS-1202X-E but with two extra channels?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2018, 10:11:23 pm
content: Quote from: timkoers on February 24, 2018, 09:42:18 pmYes it has been overlooked it appears but it won't be because of SDS1202X-E as the 4 ch version has more features.The feature set of both X-E 4ch models is the same excepting BW of course.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 25, 2018, 07:07:24 am
content: Quote from: tautech on February 24, 2018, 10:11:23 pmI had to include SDS-1204X-E to SDS1104X-E's column, the chart is already large and to keep the size manageable I am merging the models with different BWs.

author: bullonwheels
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2018, 11:27:07 pm
content: Hi Please help me, I have Tektronix 4104C at work and I want something to work on at home. I am planning to buy 1052B for approx $500. Is it worth ?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2018, 11:55:53 pm
content: Quote from: bullonwheels on June 02, 2018, 11:27:07 pmWelcome to the forum.Tek 1052B has a only miserable 2.5k of memory, would you be happy with so little in a DSO ?I get the UI will be similar to what you're used to but maybe you should look at a more capable DSO.My 2c.

author: bullonwheels
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2018, 12:51:56 am
content: Thank you Tautech.I am planning for siglent 1202E. Confused between siglent and Rigol now.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2018, 01:29:28 am
content: Quote from: bullonwheels on June 03, 2018, 12:51:56 amWhat model Rigol are you looking at ?Would you be happy with only two channels of the 1202X-E ?For what you were to spend on the Tek you can have a SDS1104X-E.

author: bullonwheels
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2018, 05:20:33 pm
content: Wow Tautech you are life saverI just cancelled Rigol 1052 and ordered Sds1204

author: Wolfgang
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 03, 2018, 01:15:50 am
content: ... just for completeness and because it is an awesome scope, I would add the Keysight S Series (Infiniium).10Bits resolution, up to 8GHz, ... not bad in my eyes.

author: johnfiott
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 25, 2018, 10:00:55 am
content: Excellent job. Thanks for taking the time to research this. I am looking to buy my first oscilloscope and am considering a Hantek.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 06, 2018, 01:47:47 pm
content: Quote from: Wolfgang on August 03, 2018, 01:15:50 amI have not updated the chart after January and it is already October now.I have very limited spare time these days, I may have time next weekend.Many good scopes were released.I welcome any commenting for the new scope on the sheet, then it will help me updating it.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtPqMAkNw2bSkqocuc7zcYkl57fsdPVlxzyqcJmbKIc/edit?usp=sharing

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 24, 2018, 08:03:06 am
content: I am really behind updating the chart.Is there other models than bellow have released after my last update?Keysight Infiniium S-SeriesRigol DS5000Rigol MSO5000I just wanted to know what models are missing in the chart to start getting the datasheets.

author: commongrounder
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2018, 12:46:14 am
content: Have you gotten the Rigol DS/MSO7000 series?

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2018, 08:02:32 am
content: Quote from: commongrounder on November 25, 2018, 12:46:14 amThanks!I just added them to the chartKeysight Infiniium S-SeriesRIGOL DS5000, MSO5000, MSO/DS7000

author: bitbanger
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2019, 05:11:02 pm
content: Propose restructuring this so that price(s) and production status are columns, with only one top header common to all entries (no separate price groups). As is you can't 'Filter' the table in Excel (which makes it nice because you can then sort by any column, and do a 'parametric' search by filtering only certain parameters). Well, you can but it stops the filtering when it hits another price/production header. See screenshot if you're not sure what filtering feature i'm referring to.This also promotes making entries within a given column more organized.

author: tudou2048
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 13, 2019, 10:52:55 am
content: TDS3000C Vertical resolution is 9 bits

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 14, 2019, 12:09:53 pm
content: Quote from: bitbanger on January 05, 2019, 05:11:02 pmThank you for the suggestion. I was busy uploading one video on my youtube channel today, but I will update the chart as soon as possible so it will be filterable with the price and model name.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 14, 2019, 01:08:45 pm
content: Quote from: tudou2048 on January 13, 2019, 10:52:55 amI updated the chart in google drive.Please give me some time to update the png images of the chart.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2019, 09:53:45 am
content: @ fanOfeeDIYWhen you have a chance to update the chart there are 2 new Siglent series of DSO's to add:https://www.siglentamerica.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds2000x-e/200 & 350 MHz 2ch modelshttps://www.siglentamerica.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds5000x/350, 500 and 1 GHz 2 and 4ch models.TIA

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 04, 2019, 11:48:01 am
content: Quote from: tautech on February 03, 2019, 09:53:45 amHi tautech,Thanks for the information and the links.I do not think I added SDS1200X-E yet either.Keysight DSOX1200G is not in the chart too.Will add them.

author: phantom
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2019, 09:29:20 pm
content: hi, i don't know if i could ask here, my question: could you give me a good advice about which model to buy to fix phone?thanks

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2019, 01:45:17 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on February 03, 2019, 09:53:45 am@tautech,I have added SDS2000X-E and SDS5000X to the google chart.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtPqMAkNw2bSkqocuc7zcYkl57fsdPVlxzyqcJmbKIc/edit?usp=sharingI was not sure about the which serial decoding were optional or standard for the SDS5000X series.Initially I thought all I2C, SPI, UART, CAN, LIN, CAN FD, FlexRay, I2S and MIL-STD-1553B were standard but then I saw the CAN FD, FlexRay, I2S and MIL-STD-1553B in optional page.Do you mind checking the google chart?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2019, 07:08:11 pm
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on February 11, 2019, 01:45:17 pmGreat job, thanks very much.You might also include mention of Capacitive touch screen for SDS5000X models next time you edit the chart.TIA

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2019, 12:47:48 pm
content: *Reorganized chart to able to use filter feature (Comment from bitbanger)*Fixed TDS3000C Vertical resolution is 9 bits (Comment from udou2048)*Added Keysight DSO-X 1200X*Added SIGLANT SDS2000X-E, SDS5000XThanks!

author: electromotive
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2019, 05:04:03 pm
content: I can't imagine how much time it took to sort all of this information. Thank you!

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 08, 2019, 02:47:19 pm
content: Quote from: electromotive on March 05, 2019, 05:04:03 pmYou are most welcome!

author: geirendre
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 28, 2019, 08:35:26 pm
content: Maby I'm missing something here, but wouldn't it be better if the header row contained the value designation like USD, bits, Sa/S etc.and each row just had the value as an integer or something?So the header for "価格 Price" column was "価格 Price USD" and each row was 329, 349, 499 etc.That would make it easier to sort and filter on multiple criterias.And maby also split the "画面 Display" into two columns, "Display size Inches" and "Display resolution"This would make the chart an even greater resource I think.Thanks for all the effort you put into this.Regards Geir

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 07:51:31 pm
content: Quote from: geirendre on March 28, 2019, 08:35:26 pmIt is great idea to make it easier for sorting and filtering.Initially the chart was my notes on plain text and never really considered the format of the excel.Let me take some time when I have a spare time on some weekend.

author: Vell
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2019, 03:56:11 am
content: Hi,Newbie to this Forum, but no newbie to electronics.The 'Scope spreadsheet is surely a labor of love, and every note of thanks is surely proof of its value.Please note "SIGLENT" for "SIGLANT".HTH!Best regards, and thanks!Vell

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 06, 2019, 03:10:37 pm
content: Quote from: Vell on June 05, 2019, 03:56:11 amThank you for pointing out my another typo.Just fixed SIGLANT" to "SIGLENT".

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2019, 03:05:06 am
content: Oh, I thought it was a new Siglent clone.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 09, 2019, 02:44:51 pm
content: Quote from: bitseeker on June 07, 2019, 03:05:06 amhehe :-)

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 04, 2019, 01:07:01 pm
content: *Added Tektronix 3 Series MDO, 4 Series MSO*Added LeCroy HDO4000A*Split Columns of Display size, resolution and touch (Comment from geirendre)

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 10, 2019, 01:21:36 pm
content: *Added youtube link to SIGLENT SDS5000XThanks,

author: JPNH20
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2020, 03:10:13 pm
content: This is amazing. Thanks so much for putting all this together and those who contributed. I'm getting ready to purchase my first scope and this is a huge help. Much better than flipping back and forth on web pages comparing the features. With some sorts etc. this will allow me to zero in on just what I want in 1/4 of the time it would take to look up each and make comparisons. Much appreciated!

author: BetterAndBetter
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 08, 2020, 08:13:22 am
content: @fanOfeeDIYThanks for your all your hard word.Have you considered this Model? This is the main product of our company.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-owon-xds-oscilloscopes/

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 08, 2020, 10:13:04 am
content: Quote from: BetterAndBetter on April 08, 2020, 08:13:22 amYes, I would like to.I have not updated the chart for a while and there are more models missing in the chart.Let me find my time, thanks,

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 08, 2020, 05:24:26 pm
content: Please add this new series too:https://int.siglent.com/products-overview/sds2000xp/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-coming/TIA

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 16, 2020, 06:35:18 am
content: Quote from: tautech on April 08, 2020, 05:24:26 pmHi @tautech,well do probably this weekend.Best,

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 19, 2020, 02:40:43 pm
content: Hi @BetterAndBetter and @tautech,I couldn’t update the chart this weekend, maybe next weekend or I might able to work on the weekdays.I had a rough week this week.

author: BetterAndBetter
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2020, 07:50:24 am
content: Deal with the problems you face and still appreciate your efforts.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 26, 2020, 07:39:16 am
content: Hi @BetterAndBetterPlease let me know if you find any mistakes.I was not sure about some of the Function generators options.I really need your feedback.*Added OWON SDS1000, XDS2000, XDS3000A, XDS3000E, XDS3000AE, XDS3200, XDS3200A, XDS3300

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 26, 2020, 07:40:02 am
content: Hi @tautech,I added them. Hope the details are correct.*Added SIGLENT SDS2000X-Plus

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2020, 01:34:31 pm
content: Hi,*Added LeCroy WaveSurfer3000z, WaveSurfer4000HD, HDO6000A*Added RIGOL DS1000Z-E*Updeted RIGOL DS1000Z, MSODS2000A to match current lineups*Updated Keysight InfiniiVision2000X to match current specs after improvements in 2018

author: BetterAndBetter
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2020, 08:46:52 am
content: QuoteI don't know much about some of the information, such as the price, to the my best.Quoteplease check <Digital Oscilloscope Comparison owon-2020-04-30.xlsx>, I changed the content of the red font. add Multimeter, Virtual OSC.More information about Function generators:Max Frequency Output: 25MHzSample Rate: 125MS/sChannel: 1 channel (apply to XDS3104(A), XDS3204E(AE), 2 channels (only for XDS3000 series 2 channels model)Vertical Resolution: 14 bitsAmplitude Range: 2mVpp - 6VppWaveform Length: 8KStandard Waveform: Sine, Square, Pulse, RampArbitrary Waveform:Exponential Rise, Exponential Fall, Sin(x)/x, Step Wave, Noise, and others, total 46 built-in waveforms, and user-defined arbitrary waveform

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 30, 2020, 11:25:43 pm
content: Quote from: BetterAndBetter on April 30, 2020, 08:46:52 amHi @BetterAndBetter,Wow!, thank you for all the additional information. I will merge them this weekend.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2020, 01:37:15 am
content: Quote from: BetterAndBetter on April 30, 2020, 08:46:52 amI merged your great help.*Added OWON USB oscilloscope series, VDS1000, VDS2000, VDS3000, VDS6000 (Thank you, @BetterAndBetter)I had to be creative for the DMM features while trying to make the cart small as possible.I hope it is good for you.

author: BetterAndBetter
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 03, 2020, 02:00:54 am
content: yeah， the description "4000 DMM" of DMM features that is concise enough.the description "USB-C" that is very thoughtful.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2020, 06:55:39 am
content: Hi,*Added Keysight InfiniiVision1200X, EDUX1052 and improvements in Feb 2020.This new lineup was difficult to digest to put into the chart from the web page.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2020, 07:10:07 am
content: *Added Tektronix TBS2000B

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2020, 07:11:43 am
content: *Added PicoScope 3000, 5000D and fixes.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2020, 07:23:58 am
content: *Updates and fixes on Rohde & Schwarz.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2020, 08:51:38 am
content: There are still some models could not update them in the chart. The MXR series, Yokogawa DLM3000, PicoScope 4000, LeCroy's TSDSO1000 and 2000. The hantek is really outdated.I also have some other priorities, I am going to stop here for a while.

author: Chris Roubis
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2020, 04:45:05 am
content: Just wow.Thank you.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 10, 2020, 02:46:46 pm
content: *Added GW-instek MDO-2000E, MDO-2000A, GDS-3000

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 14, 2020, 09:11:15 am
content: *Added PicoScope 6000E and 6000CD fixes

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 16, 2020, 12:34:30 pm
content: *Added Yokogawa DLM3000*Added LeCroy T3DSO1000, T3DSO2000

author: Zom-B
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2020, 07:18:42 am
content: Hi. Konnichiha.This sheet is really useful, but because of how the "Price range" columns is layed out, it doesn't readily lend itself to using 'filter views'.In filter view, rows will be shown, hidden or reordered, depending on filters. However, the meaning of the color of a cell in "Price range" is only sown in the first row. I came a gutsa when I saw a row with 'discontinued' in it and thought everything below it was discontinued. Later when I looked at the entire sheet again I saw that there are many small discontinued ranges.I suggest repeating the text content (price and optional discontinues) in every cell of a row, so the meaning doesn't get lost when the first row of such range gets filtered out.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 25, 2020, 01:47:49 pm
content: Quote from: Zom-B on May 25, 2020, 07:18:42 amHi, the filtering and sorting on the chart at the google drive do not work well with my current chart design.It was purely enumerating the scopes in the text format when I started.Later, I converted to a excel file when I posted here but it was mainly focusing for creating image files to attached to this thread.Then I had request for making it easier to sort, since it is a chart, and started to convert some of the columns but still not sorting friendly.The initial selection of the scopes where the ones easy to find in new or used at ebay or etc. This is the reason it includes discontinued models.At the moment, I am not able to keep up with the new models cumming up in the market, and my priority is adding more models.Some day, the chart will evolve to fit nicely with filter views with many helps from the viewers and comments in the google drive.

author: Zom-B
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2020, 07:29:42 am
content: Hi,What I meant is a simple change. Instead of considering a range in column B as a large cell, duplicate the same text ineverycell. That'll make the rows independent of each other

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 04, 2020, 08:12:45 am
content: Quote from: Zom-B on June 04, 2020, 07:29:42 amThanks for your comment, I updated the chart, please let me know the filtering will work ok or not.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 04, 2020, 08:13:55 am
content: *Added Keysight Infiniium MXR Series*Revised Price Rage Column for filtering/sorting (Comment from Zom-B)

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 06, 2020, 05:15:12 am
content: *Added Micsig STO1000C STO1000E

author: jimjam
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2020, 09:50:11 am
content: spelling correction: capasitive -> capacitive

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 06, 2020, 02:20:27 pm
content: Quote from: jimjam on June 06, 2020, 09:50:11 amThank you for your comment.It is difficult to find my own misspellings and I really appreciate your help.I will fix them probably tomorrow.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 07, 2020, 03:36:45 am
content: *Fixed spelling "capasitive" to "capacitive" (Comment from jimjam)Thanks

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 07, 2020, 03:46:20 am
content: Picoscope 4000 series is missing.Hantek lineup are deadly outdated.Still long road.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 14, 2020, 05:58:38 am
content: *Started revising the descriptions of Max Sample Rate, Max Waveform, Memory Depth and Waveform Update Rate to show the performance change from number of channels used.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 20, 2020, 03:42:45 am
content: Updates*Continue revising the descriptions of Max Sample Rate, Max Waveform and Memory Depth to show the performance change from number of channels used.*Added Micsig MS500*Started to add ENOBS, this is going to take long time, and many will be unknown and black columns.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 28, 2020, 11:42:04 am
content: Started to separate columns the models which specs differs of equipped channels, especially for 2ch and 4ch.This probably going to take long time to to finish

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 29, 2020, 03:45:29 pm
content: Fixed some of the images were swapped probably due to the database issue.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 29, 2020, 12:20:21 pm
content: Added Tekronix 6 Series MSO

author: CMASupra
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 03, 2020, 11:18:48 pm
content: Here's a spreadsheet I very recently made comparing 176 oscilloscopes around the same price range as you were considering. Perhaps it will help you with your spreadsheet. I didn't include any <70MHz oscilloscopes or any oscilloscopes with <1Mpts of memory, though.If you want to keep this spreadsheet's data separate from yours, I wouldn't be against you adding it to the first post in this thread since it will get buried down here.I have no intentions of updating it if I'm happy with the oscilloscope I just purchased, though.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 04, 2020, 10:02:55 am
content: Quote from: CMASupra on September 03, 2020, 11:18:48 pmThanks! Let me work on it, probably this weekend

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2020, 12:12:57 pm
content: Hi @CMASupra, I included your chart in the first post. Also created image file from your excel file. Thanks.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2020, 08:53:34 pm
content: Quote from: CMASupra on September 03, 2020, 11:18:48 pmSome corrections for Siglent models listed:SDS1102CML+ 1Mohm inputs onlySDS22/2352X-E use the same 16ch LA module as SDS11/1204X-E, Max mem with all channels active = 14 MptsSDS2000X Plus 100 Mpts max mem depth/ch with all channels active, 2 or 4ch models.Suggested additional feature fields for all models/brands:LAN: Y or NWebserver: Y or N

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2020, 06:03:13 am
content: Quote from: tautech on September 06, 2020, 08:53:34 pmHi @tautech,Thank you for your valuable corrections.I will revise them, probably next weekend, thanks again

author: CMASupra
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 07, 2020, 09:28:04 pm
content: Updates:1) I have updated the Siglent SDS2202X-E and SDS2352X-E Mpts per channel when all channels are on from 28 to 14. Found this info in the datasheet.2) Put down 14 Mpts per digital channel on the SDS2202X-E and SDS2352X-E when 4 channels are active per your info and the datasheet. Cannot determine how many GSa/s the digital channels have with 4 channels on as the datasheet only says 1GSa/s max.Quote from: tautech on September 06, 2020, 08:53:34 pm1) The SDS1000CML+ datasheet says all those models have 1MOhm and 50Ohm input impedance on page 4 of the datasheet. Why do you say it's 1MOhm only?2) What do you mean "SDS2000X Plus 100 Mpts max mem depth/ch with all channels active, 2 or 4ch models"? I believe this info was already in the spreadsheet.3) I didn't add LAN or Web server to the spreadsheet. Would have to go through all these models to add that and be fair. I also considered adding video out (such as VGA or HDMI).

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 13, 2020, 04:17:07 pm
content: Quote from: CMASupra on September 07, 2020, 09:28:04 pmThanks, I reflected the changes by CMASupra on the first post.

author: Golds
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2020, 12:28:50 pm
content: TEXIO DCS-9700 Series

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 29, 2020, 03:28:40 pm
content: Have to add Tektronix 6 Series B MSO, whenI have time

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2020, 02:26:25 am
content: New modelSDS1104X-Uhttps://int.siglent.com/products-overview/sds1000xu/Quick summary4ch 100 MHz1 GSa/s14 MptsDifferences from existing SDS1*04X-E modelsNo web serverNo Bode plotNo options: WiFi, AWG or MSOOnly 1mV max sensitivity

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 13, 2020, 04:21:06 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on December 13, 2020, 02:26:25 amHi @tautech,Thank you for the information, give me a few days, I was taking it easy this weekend.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 20, 2020, 10:43:53 am
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on December 13, 2020, 04:21:06 pmAdded SDS1104X-UThanks,

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 20, 2020, 10:45:40 am
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on November 29, 2020, 03:28:40 pmAdded Tektronix 6 Series B MSO to google drive but have not reflected on the png images yet.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2021, 11:21:09 am
content: *Added Tekronix 6 Series MSO B

author: Fluffhamster
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 21, 2021, 09:27:43 am
content: There is an error in the table - "SDS2004X-Plus 4ch model" SDS2104X-Plus can't be upgraded to 350MHz. Upgrade path for SDS2104X-Plus ends with 200MHz max. If you want 350MHz/500MHz you need to buy SDS2354X-Plus for ~$2799

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2021, 08:16:01 pm
content: Quote from: Fluffhamster on January 21, 2021, 09:27:43 amI don't believe this is entirely correct.Certainly it's cheaper to purchase the 350 MHz model outright rather than follow the official BW upgrade path as can be seen by the costs for each BW upgrade when applied to a $1399 SDS2104X Plus:https://siglentna.com/product/bandwidth-upgrade-100-to-200-mhz-4-channel-models/$1399https://siglentna.com/product/bandwidth-upgrade-200-to-350-mhz-4-channel-models/$1399https://siglentna.com/product/bandwidth-upgrade-350-to-500-mhz-4-channel-models-2/$1399Others have tested unofficial BW upgrades to 350 MHz and their results indicate there is zero difference in the HW compared to genuine 350 MHz models.

author: Harshadb13
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 16, 2021, 04:16:39 pm
content: Hey all,I had a question...are DSO on aliexpress and alibaba with random chinese names worth the money?

author: lunacyworks
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 22, 2021, 06:39:00 am
content: That is a loaded question. The general answer is no under most circumstances. There are edge cases that could justify a few of the models. One of the main issues is that they don't live up to the claims so if you go by the stated specs you won't get what you are expecting.

author: herc
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2021, 01:44:18 pm
content: i am playing with the idea to buy my first digital oscilloscope (prefer high bandwidth for high frequency analog stuff; but should be < 500 euro). but it looks like i am late to the game: oscilloscopes like Rigol, GWInstek GDS-1202B or SDS1202X-E all seem to be 4 year old designs ?!?is there some info about upcoming, updated versions of this class of oscilloscopes?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2021, 07:40:04 pm
content: With a little stretch of your budget the 2 GSa/s SDS2202X-E is worthy of consideration. The 1 GSa/s SDS1202X-E was the first in the X-E series but hasn't got a few of the features in later X-E models.SDS2202X-E is a 350 MHz design so it's not difficult to convince it to become a SDS2352X-E.

author: fizzz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 03, 2021, 07:42:24 pm
content: Quote from: herc on June 14, 2021, 01:44:18 pmI'm looking into buying a <$400 scope, and this is also my main concern.There is now the SDS1104X-U, which is from December 2020. It's 100mhz/4channel for $400, which is reasonable.I want a DS1054Z to upgrade, but it's 7 years old and apparently the UI is sluggish... that doesn't feel great.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 03, 2021, 09:05:29 pm
content: Quote from: fizzz on August 03, 2021, 07:42:24 pmWelcome to the forum.X-U is based on the 4ch X-E design albeit with a few less features however it performs just as well with a responsive UI and the are selling well for us in NZ. For the budget conscious buyers X-U is now more attractive than the bit cheaper SDS1202X-E.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2021, 03:46:21 pm
content: Quote from: herc on June 14, 2021, 01:44:18 pmDon't worry about that. These are measurement devices, not fashion smartphones.Quote from: herc on June 14, 2021, 01:44:18 pmNo manufacturer would ever release that info.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2021, 03:48:53 pm
content: Quote from: fizzz on August 03, 2021, 07:42:24 pmIf you're in the USA then the GW-Instek is the budget oscilloscope to go for right now. It's cheaper than the Rigol and better in many ways, including having the fastest UI out there at the moment.

author: vkristof
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 31, 2021, 03:01:57 pm
content: I am looking at buying a cost-effective scope for home use (I have plenty of scopes at work).The Rigol scopes we had at my last job were well respected and I bought a Rigol AWG which worked just fine.So, I'm interested in their currently least expensive scope the DS1102Z-E ($249 USD at the Rigol store on Amazon US, "FREE delivery"). For $249 it's strictly a scope (no AWG available) but does have an ethernet port). The ethernet port is a plus for me because THEORETICALLY it could allow high bandwidth, un-interrupted, streaming/recording of dataThere isn't much analysis on the web about the Rigol, say compared to the approx $200 USD Hanntek ?DSOD10? with AWG.I think somebody stated that the Rigol DS1102Z-E is a stripped ?DS1104Z?/?DS1054Z?. I'm assuming Rigol created this $249 unit as a teaser to round out the absolute low-end of their product line.Does anybody have any insight into this unit?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2021, 03:46:16 am
content: Quote from: vkristof on August 31, 2021, 03:01:57 pmYes.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-ds1102z-e/Quote from: vkristof on August 31, 2021, 03:01:57 pmIn the USA? I'd look at the GW-Instek instead. You can get them very cheap over there:https://www.tequipment.net/Instek/GDS-1102B/Digital-Oscilloscopes/There's also a thread on here somewhere about a Tequipment discount for EEVBLOG members.

author: vkristof
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 01, 2021, 12:03:48 pm
content: Yes, $249 in the USA.Thanks for the pointer to the Instek. That link has a $279 price for the Instek, so I think I see why Rigol dropped THEIR price from $279 to $249.I'll check it out.

author: Bobson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 10:14:40 pm
content: I don't see any portable scopes here, including all Hantek, FNIRSI models. Why?

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 12:04:33 pm
content: Quote from: Bobson on October 24, 2021, 10:14:40 pmNothing special, just I have not had a time to go through portable scope other than micsig.Even current models in the chart have missing columns.Gradually making it better, and appreciate any help on it.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2021, 01:22:27 pm
content: New flagship model for Siglent. Only current pricing is on the EU website:https://www.siglenteu.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds6000a/

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2021, 03:23:57 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on November 13, 2021, 01:22:27 pmThank you for letting me know. I will update it as soon as possible, probably this weekend.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2021, 12:38:14 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on November 13, 2021, 01:22:27 pmI was able to add the Siglent SDS6000A on the charts.Finally I entered New Year Holiday.Thanks,

author: crgarcia
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2022, 09:46:49 pm
content: Hi,This chart is super useful!I see a lot of scopes in the <600 price range have an actual higher price. Why is that?I think prices in Switzerland are very different from the ones in the list unfortunatelyThank you!

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 24, 2022, 03:37:38 pm
content: Quote from: crgarcia on March 02, 2022, 09:46:49 pmMany of the models might have higher prices than I checked them when they came out in the market, especially recent inflation.When I was checking the prices, the countries in EU always have higher prices than the US…

author: simba15
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 29, 2022, 01:28:08 pm
content: Any links to the GW-Instek for $249? can only seem to find them around $300+.Thanks,

author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2022, 02:36:35 pm
content: Thanks for sharing, I wonder what's the best scope to buy for cheap and hack to 500MHz or 350Mhz

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2022, 06:52:36 pm
content: Quote from: ali_asadzadeh on October 16, 2022, 02:36:35 pmSDS2104X Plus is hard to beat for the spend. It's a 500 MHz design.

author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2022, 09:27:21 am
content: I heard New rigol models with 12Bit ADC is coming soon, so do we have new hopes? Is there any release time or price info leaked?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2022, 08:00:31 pm
content: Quote from: ali_asadzadeh on October 17, 2022, 09:27:21 amSDS2104X Plus has a 10 bit mode but is limited to 100 MHz.

author: gubezon
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2022, 08:58:44 pm
content: Post 1Well after a LOT of scraping around threads here, and watching Dave's youtube tear-downs, I've gone and jumped into the world of modern oscilloscopes.First "real" scope was an old tek 502 in perfect working order that someone gifted me back in the late 80s.https://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/502Now have a tek 2246A with low hours that I got a few years back and I need to give it a capacitor refresh, but it works for what it is -- just afraid one of these times I'm gonna turn it on and lose something important to a faulty crapacitor... It's in too good a shape to let that happen really -- I need to do it justice!Just couldn't pass up the deals siglent is offering on their SDS2000X Plus series, now that the 2000 HD series is getting all the love. I want one of those too, but I thought for now, just a SDS2104X+ to warm up on with the SSA3021X+ I ordered at the same time would be more than enough.Love the NanoVNA for sure, but gee whiz, all it did was whet the appetite!Things probably won't end well for the food budget heading into the new year. 12bits are now on the brain. Considering the relatively low cost, of the X+, jumping right into a 2104X HD and having two four channel scopes on the bench seems pretty doable -- one for MSO stuff (the X+ came bundled with the SPL2016 adapter) and the HD for small signal analog stuffLots of tabs are opened with all the good threads about "enhancing" these two machines and hope that I can issue all the correct incantations in the correct order without having to pester all of you pros (<tips hat to tv84>) -- wish me luck!

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2022, 09:14:54 pm
content: Quote from: gubezon on November 18, 2022, 08:58:44 pmSDS2000HD uses same MSO adapter, so you could use it on both..Sounds you'll have lots of fun...

author: MathWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 03, 2024, 02:21:54 am
content: Today I'm surprised to see this LeCroy T3DSO1000-FGhttps://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Teledyne-LeCroy/T3DSO1000-FG?qs=%252BEew9%252B0nqrA%2FoSxcuYgh2w%3D%3D&mgh=1&gad_source=4&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu8zZpZPAgwMVWklyCh0i5gBiEAQYASABEgIgkvD_BwEIn my mind LeCroy is a big name, and I didn;t think any of the big names made low cost scopes, at a glance it looks good and is much cheaper than I would have expected.Nevermind, it's the software only, I guess an upgrade. And that's why the weight is only 45grams

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 03, 2024, 02:41:15 am
content: Quote from: MathWizard on January 03, 2024, 02:21:54 amThese are rebranded Siglent 2k/1kX-E models.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 03, 2024, 10:27:17 am
content: Quote from: tautech on January 03, 2024, 02:41:15 amI have not updating the chart about two years.Let me work on it some time.Akira

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 03, 2024, 10:37:28 am
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on January 03, 2024, 10:27:17 amThank you.We will have 3 new 12bit model ranges for you to add in a few weeks.

author: fanOfeeDIY
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 03, 2024, 04:46:15 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on January 03, 2024, 10:37:28 amWow

author: mrfrenzy
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 19, 2024, 02:04:15 pm
content: This is really a great effort. If you are going to do some updates I would suggest to add a few columns that can be gradually filled in.Since I am just in the process of buying my third scope there are a few things I miss on my old scopes that would be great to filter on:*Segmented memory (you already have this in the chart!)*Serial triggers like UART, CAN etc*Advanced trigger like Glitch, Runt, Window etc

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2024, 08:58:06 am
content: >> I have not updating the chart about two years.Well, for my interests is the following:- Input connection of an external 10Mhz (or 100MHz) reference frequency source. While not many has this is is may a requirement to sync with AWG too- Internal TXCO or OXCO reference

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2024, 10:31:53 am
content: Quote from: hpw on February 20, 2024, 08:58:06 amA significant task.....As internal frequency references improve the need for external references diminishes......From the Siglent range:SDS7000A 10MHz Ref In and Out (both) plus optional OCXOSDS6000L 10MHz Ref In and Out (both)SDS5000X 10MHz Ref In/Out (single BNC user assigned)

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2024, 07:09:27 pm
content: Quote from: fanOfeeDIY on January 03, 2024, 04:46:15 pmNow released, the 3 new 12 bit ranges:SDS800X HD, SDS1000X HD and SDS3000X HD.Announcement with links to product pages:https://int.siglent.com/info/detail-82.htmlOh and BTW, you have a new Japan Siglent site to download from:https://siglent.co.jp/TIA

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2024, 02:13:49 pm
content: The point of this table is.... Repetition and Absorption.he started this chart years ago, didn't know about scopes, Now different people learn in different ways, he learns in a visual wayso as such he goes out and researches each scope, he decideds to make a spreadsheet with parameters / features of scopes.he then compares them and see what scopes have what and what don't,This is his way of digesting the information that needs to be digested.AS A FACT, i used to the do the same thing when it came to Engineering formula's , I would first do it manually, but then to absorb iti would create a spreadsheet and i would find that the constant re remembering of the formula would cause me to learn it and the mathematicalprogramming of it and repetition of other formula's would cause me to understand the formula in depth and what it was doing.In terms of learning about scopes, for someone to create this spreadsheet is superior to doing a google search

author: blackfin76
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2024, 06:15:48 pm
content: Tektronix TDS3000 series is a 9-bit oscilloscope, not 8-bit as mentioned in the overview.

author: lunacyworks
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2025, 07:22:56 am
content: Is there anything forum members can do to help this process along. Since we are now past Covid it seems a great time to update this chart.