my PCBWin order - Page 1
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author: sdouble
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 06:54:49 am
content: Hi all,I ordered 5 weeks ago 600 pcbs at PCBWin based on their good repûtation. My previous provider was stormcircuit.They had a problem with my production due to the use of slightly exotic (Rogers) material . Then the material got out of stock... and I had to wait... for 1 more month.I got a bit pissed off but I accepted the delay. I finally got the boards and I must say that this is the best production I ever got. Everything is done carefully and well adjusted. Soldermask is properly applied and vias are still empty (most of my vias were filled with Stomcircuit). The pads are clean and sharp. In a word, until now, I'm happy. Let's see how the reflow process develop. I had, in a past some issues with some stormcircuit boards.http://hpics.li/9aecd7d

author: ansonbao
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 10:10:31 am
content: To be honest,I fell very sad that a fraud company can get order.They copy our company website design.After we told to their director they change nothing.Our engineer spend a lot of time designing but didn't get respect.

author: richardlawson1489
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 02:10:47 pm
content: This is really a serious matter. Many people are facing this spamming issues nowadays. There are some strict action should be taken to the spammers and fake companies.

author: ansonbao
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 02:48:52 pm
content: Quote from: richardlawson1489 on February 21, 2017, 02:10:47 pmYes,last time our client was cheated 2000 dollars by the fake component company.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 03:08:15 pm
content: Quote from: ansonbao on February 21, 2017, 10:10:31 amI'll remind you again as in other treads. For sure you "have moral right" to say this as in the past you were stealing actual pieces of texts from advanced circuits website (4PCB) and also made 3PCB website to steal some of their customers as well.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 03:10:02 pm
content: Quote from: richardlawson1489 on February 21, 2017, 02:10:47 pmLike those dozens of PCBway spammers no so long time ago?

author: ansonbao
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 02:43:00 am
content: Quote from: wraper on February 21, 2017, 03:08:15 pmThe serious is their logo imitation us,client photos and pcb photos steal from our website directly,website design as same as us,make so many clients wonder whether it is our website. And they did nothing after we told to them.For your criticism,we will pay attention next time and thanks very much.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 05:47:13 am
content: QuoteBS, there is not a single PCB photo stolen as I'm aware. Show at least single match, please.PS.Isn't it a raspberry Pi photo in your assembly service page?http://www.pcbway.com/pcb-assembly.html

author: sdouble
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 06:01:41 am
content: a careful inspection of the boards showed that the small vias (0.3 mm holes) pad size were modified. They were of 6 mils in my Gerber and modified to 8 mils without asking me for any confirmation.That's a minor issue but still, it's not something that I expected.as far as the rest of the pcb is concerned, I could not find any significant problem.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 06:26:59 am
content: Quote from: sdouble on February 22, 2017, 06:01:41 amWait, this is mission impossible. 0.3 mm via in 0.15 mm pad? Do you mean annular ring maybe?

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 06:44:35 am
content: Also had it confirmed that mr Baos claim about an 'exclusive' line for PCBway is a mere fabrication of his imagination.

author: sdouble
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2017, 02:45:46 am
content: Quote from: wraper on February 22, 2017, 06:26:59 amyes, that's what I meant.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2017, 06:17:01 am
content: Quote from: sdouble on February 23, 2017, 02:45:46 amThen did you measure pad diameter or annular ring? Asking because hole plating thickness will add to the annular ring.

author: sdouble
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2017, 08:31:37 pm
content: i was not mentioning a measurement. The point is that I noticed the difference between the design and the pcb. I mailed the technician and she informed me that they increased the size of the annular ring from 4 to 8 mils.

author: technotronix
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2017, 09:16:37 am
content: I personally didn't face this kind of experience till date but have seen many people with this issue and lost many dollars because of the fake companies.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2017, 05:48:09 pm
content: Quote from: ansonbao on February 21, 2017, 10:10:31 amThere was a Shenzhen electronic market video posted some time ago, where the main character said "what is called stealing in other countries we call it "sharing" here"So guess one of you might be wrong.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2017, 07:25:05 pm
content: riiiight.sharing.like, when I got boards (populated) from ebay; you have to beg for the schematic; you MAY get one or may get the wrong one. if you get one at all, you have to view the pdf at 400x to see any printing at all.you'll NEVER get firmware and never get sources or updates.chips have their numbers scratched off.yeah, sharing. riiiiiight.