MIT Cold Fusion - The Revolution has Begun! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Mazda
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 02:47:52 pm
content: ..for anyone interested , a short informative video on the current state of LENR/cold fusion understanding..

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 07:03:15 pm
content: The video makers used the propaganda style, as previously appeared in consperacy videos, like ethernal energy, end of the world, chemtrails etcetera.So sad. Now i'm not interested in cold fusion anymore.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 10:04:06 pm
content: Not gonna happen commercially this decade, so till they have a real break through i am glad other scientists research and improve some other power sources:http://www.ul.ie/news-centre/news/researchers-make-breakthrough-in-battery-technology

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 10:12:38 pm
content: Quote from: Galenbo on February 11, 2014, 07:03:15 pmWhy? Just because you didn't like the video style?, and on a channel that appears to produce those style of videos?The top level tech info was interesting, how about go following up that MIT research and see where it's at?

author: bluejonah
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 10:26:10 pm
content: Nyaw man. Don't mention chemtrails. You taint the video before anyone watches it. The only thing I have an issue with is the narrator's claim that "cold fusion will render coal, gas, and nuclear fuels obsolete". Wait. They already *are* obsolete. It's called "green energy". In other word: solar, wind, thermal, ect. Also, to state that dark matter has no real world applications is extremely naive. How can you say something we know very little about has no real world applications? lol We don't even know what it is. We know it's there.... but *what* is there we don't know. Lol Ok. Moving on...

author: tjaeger
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 10:26:58 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on February 11, 2014, 10:04:06 pmI think you're thinking of "hot" fusion (you know, fusion) that's not going to happen in this decade (and maybe decade should be "50 years"), cold fusion is just outright fraud at this point.

author: Frost
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 11:18:03 pm
content: Quote from: bluejonah on February 11, 2014, 10:26:10 pmCan't believe that someone with a US Flag in the profile gives such a statement

author: bluejonah
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 11:56:03 pm
content: Quote from: Frost on February 11, 2014, 11:18:03 pmI'm from Kentucky, too. Seriously!

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 12:01:41 am
content: The proof of the pudding is in the eating, enough said.

author: rexxar
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 01:35:20 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on February 12, 2014, 12:01:41 amUnfortunately we (US citizens) can't do anything because the oil and coal companies literally own enough politicians that they'll be around for a long, long time. Which is not to say we don'ttry, we vote and petition and demonstrate plenty, but it's hard to argue with 20 billion dollars.Quote from: bluejonah on February 11, 2014, 11:56:03 pmMe too! Where are you at?

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 07:55:49 am
content: Quote from: tjaeger on February 11, 2014, 10:26:58 pmOk thanks

author: profmason
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 08:21:18 am
content: I remember back in grad school when the Pons and fleishmann news broke some of the solid state folks down in the basement tried to replicate the results.Initially they were very excited because they were getting more excess heat then p& f reported.However, it turned out that a radioactive source used for rad hardness testing was left in the lab space they were using. Our group was glad to find the source.Still there are plenty of sad REAL stories like the abandonment of the integral fast reactor project and the overall decline in nuclear R& D.

author: MrsR
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 08:52:13 am
content: If they ever get cold fusion to work it would be nice to hook the house up to a small container and remove those black leads coming into the power box from that pole near the road.I think we will be waiting an very long time. May be my great great grand children may see a change of power supply "by then the wires will be under the ground.The only clean energy in large quantities is Nuclear and with the extreme reaction against Radiation and the storage of waste will keep it from use in Australia.CHEERSRachael

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 09:06:52 am
content: Quote from: MrsR on February 12, 2014, 08:52:13 amHow can you call a process that produces waste that is lethal and toxic for over 40000 years to come, clean?They even put warning messages on the entrance doors in a mathematical language because they do not know what language will be spoken in 40000 yearsCan you imagine the archeologists digging stuff up over 20000 years and die of radiation poisoning, the curse of the mummy revisited

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 09:45:24 am
content: Quote from: Kjelt on February 12, 2014, 09:06:52 amA littlebit unconventional, but an investigation in Tsjernobyl turned out to show that the animal population had grown very fast due to the absense of humans. Masses died at birth and were eaten immediately, but the ones who survived are all radioactive but seem to have a normal life expectance."Drop all that nuclear trash in the rain forests" sounds different to me since I heard about the Tsjernobyl investigation.

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 09:50:14 am
content: Quote from: rexxar on February 12, 2014, 01:35:20 amHow can you believe this?-Hot fusion did enter the market without too much 'big money' resistance.-'big money' will own cold fusion immediately if it ever works. They will hold the patents, get the permissions, build the plants, build the devices. Sell it to you.Quote from: rexxar on February 12, 2014, 01:35:20 amInstead of becoming the 20 billion dollars, developing your own reactor.

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 12:27:58 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on February 12, 2014, 09:06:52 amWell, if it weren't for the US' stupidity, there would be a fraction of the waste, which would last only a few hundred years, manageable by a conventional government. France and Japan, for instance, reprocess the long lived actinides and 'burn' them.Tim

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 01:41:29 pm
content: Quote from: Galenbo on February 12, 2014, 09:45:24 amI am not a biologist but as far as I know cell changes, DNA mutations and other results of long term radiation exposure take generations to evaluate. If it is part of the ground water it can take a long time to be neutralized. What is the life expectance of an average animal? 6 years? So if they die after 4 years will that be noticed? Probably not. Humans on the other hand with a lifeexpectancy of 80 years would be shocked if it dropped in a few decades back to 50 years.Concerning the amazon forest, why not the moon, noone lives there, but hey that is too costly? So in the end money is the only factor why we tolerate to continue polluting our own planet?

author: nihilism
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 03:14:14 pm
content: But this is available next year, isn't it?

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 05:20:42 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on February 12, 2014, 01:41:29 pmI also don't know very much about biology, and assumed the necessary multigeneration adaption also.But the scientists evaluated what they saw, there was no remarkable differece in life expectance.They also stated that they couldn't measure the number of deaths at birth, they expected this to be much higher.They also 'imported' family animals from other areas, they nearly all immediately died.