Help identifying connector -I can't believe it's this hard. - Page 1
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author: Rhamer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 11:59:23 pm
content: Ok, I'm trying to harness the power of the Internet to help me identify a source for this connector.It is a XS16 series model J5P.I found some being sold directly out of China, but after purchasing a few it seems not all versions are made equal, and the 0.2mm difference in the barrel size was enough to stop them fitting.So I'm trying to identify the "H" logo in the picture, so I can track down the manufacturer and then hopefully find a place to buy them.If anybody has any ideas, please let me know.ThanksRohan

author: sokoloff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2017, 01:20:17 am
content: I can't find an example, but have you checked with Hirose to see if it's one of theirs?

author: ebclr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2017, 02:10:59 am
content: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.4.38Gkhj&id=36520742379&cm_id=140105335569ed55e27b&abbucket=7

author: Rhamer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 30, 2017, 04:06:53 am
content: Quote from: sokoloff on May 30, 2017, 01:20:17 amIt doesn't appear to be, I cant find it on their website.Also the logo doesn't appear to be theirs.Thanks for your help.Rohan

author: Rhamer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 30, 2017, 04:14:18 am
content: Quote from: ebclr on May 30, 2017, 02:10:59 amYeah, these are the ones I already found that are slightly different despite having the same part number.In fact I now have 3 different brands, all with the same part number that wont fit each other in any combination. It seems each manufacturer does their own thing.What I actually need is to find the manufacturer of the one in the picture above as this is what I actually need to mate to.And FYI I cant switch over to another brand completely as one end is already attached to a machine that will void the warranty if I start pulling it apart and changing connectors.So back to the original question, can anybody help identify that logo or know of a supplier that stocks them.Thanks for your help.Rohan

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2017, 05:39:43 am
content: Quote from: Rhamer on May 30, 2017, 04:14:18 amIf its under warranty then its time to go to the manufacturer of the equipment and get them to supply mating connectors.

author: Rhamer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 30, 2017, 06:35:41 am
content: Quote from: Someone on May 30, 2017, 05:39:43 amIt's not an issue of warranty.The short story is I have a machine that accepts accessories plugged into a socket with the plugs as shown.I have some additional accessories that I need to get the correct plugs for, so I can wire them up and plug them in.This is why I need to identify the manufacturer, so I can buy matching plugs.Rohan

author: Rhamer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 08:05:10 am
content: Wow, this is proving difficult.I have literally spent days trawling around the Internet trying to identify this manufacturer.I have tried every search combination I can think of and then some.Unfortunately I've still come up blank.If anybody has any ideas as to what it might be or where I should go to try and find out, I would appreciate it.BTW I have tried the seller, but they source the machine from Asia somewhere and had no idea on the origin of individual parts.Rohan

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 09:15:59 am
content: Renhotec perhaps?They've got a 3 pin type with a shell that looks identical to yourshttps://www.alibaba.com/showroom/xs16-push-pull-connector.htmlUgh, just realised that link re-orders itself dynamically.This link is to the one I found that looks to have the identical shell:https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Aviation-Connector-XS16-3-Pin-Plug_60654003726.html

author: H.O
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 10:02:02 am
content: Buy receptacle and plugs from the same vendor and replace the receptacle in the machine ?

author: Rhamer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 12:13:06 pm
content: Quote from: H.O on June 01, 2017, 10:02:02 amI can't as per my previous post related to warranty.Rohan

author: Rhamer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 12:18:42 pm
content: Quote from: CJay on June 01, 2017, 09:15:59 amIt could be that one, but without confirming the logo I'm hesitant to buy any. I already have 3 brands with the same part number that don't mate in any combination.I had looked at the Renhotec website, but couldn't find that connector style. I just looked again and still can't.Their logo also appears to be a "R" and not the "H".Thanks for your helpRohan

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 02:29:18 pm
content: Quote from: Rhamer on June 01, 2017, 08:05:10 amSo, if they don't know about the parts. What level or warranty are you expecting?

author: Rhamer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 10:54:18 pm
content: Quote from: Jeroen3 on June 01, 2017, 02:29:18 pmHow is this in any way helpful?I didn't ask for your opinion on my buying choices.To be frank, I have not gone into detail on the actual machine, where it came from or the circumstances around me acquiring it because they are of no consequence to what I'm asking.Rohan

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2017, 12:36:05 am
content: Google "XS16J5P". Look at the first few results:http://us.100y.com.tw/viewproduct.asp?MNo=55088http://images.100y.com.tw/pdf_file/10-XSR16.pdfDoes the logo there look familiar?Further down, fromhttp://www.szdahao.com/connector/connectorx/connxs/connxs_807.html, we get what looks like a very poor scan of several more pages from that datasheet:http://www.szdahao.com/uploadfile/connector/x/pdf/xhua.pdfGoogle the phrase "The product is designed to standard IEC/EN61984", and...http://www.hualun.sh.cn/en/product/123.htmlBingo. Full datasheethere.

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2017, 06:41:50 am
content: Quote from: Rhamer on June 01, 2017, 10:54:18 pmActually, it can be quite helpful to know what the machine is because it may be second sourced, it may spark a memory somewhere or someone might have knowledge of the manufacturer, any snippets of information when trying to hunt down parts can be useful.On other threads like this one occasionally the designers of a piece of equipment have turned up and offered advice, it's always worth offering as much information as you can.As for warranty, I didn't read that as a comment on your buying choice, I read it as an incitement to change the connector as the supplier is unlikely to offer any warranty service worth having.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2017, 08:02:31 am
content: Quote from: Rhamer on June 01, 2017, 10:54:18 pmPrecisely CJay, If they don't know the connector. Will they notice it has changed?

author: Rhamer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 02, 2017, 10:55:27 pm
content: Quote from: amyk on June 02, 2017, 12:36:05 amYour a star, thank you.I don't know how you found it, but I'm very grateful that you did.Now all I have to do is figure out how to buy them.Rohan

author: KL27x
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2017, 08:25:08 am
content: QuoteIn case you can't source them...In a pinch, perhaps you can just take the plug off of one of the accessories and make a pigtail adaptor with a connector of your choosing. Then put the mating connector onto all your accessories.

author: lwatts666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 29, 2017, 02:53:32 am
content: I had the same problem finding those connectors for my TIG torch.Searching for 'XS12' at AliExpress.com I found compatible connectors BUT with the pins in the chassis mount end, and sockets in the cable end. It turns out that the pins and insulating bushing is held into the connector body by a small circlip, and can be installed into either metal housings.Most places sell the plug and socket as a pair, so pop out the circlips, swap the insulating bush/pin assembly, and re-insert the circlip.Before you re-assemble, check for metal burs in the plug housing, and file off as necessary. In my case, the burs rubbed on the plastic bush on the welder chassis socket, making it a tight fit.Be careful with the two pin connectors. Some sell 2 pin connectors using diagonal holes of a four pin insulator resulting in the pins at 45 degrees to the keyway, whereas others have a special 2 pins insert with pins perpendicular to the keyway.