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author: danasat
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 25, 2017, 07:53:19 am
content: Satir has introduced products PK160, tablet combined with thermal imaging camera.SATIR is a multinational thermal imager manufacturer, R&D production and sales sites over China, France, Ireland and Britain respectively.SATIR provides products to more than 30 countries and regions and users from all sectors including electrical power, firefighting, petrochemical, metallurgy, mining, building, medical, law enforcement and surveillance.Contact us by 8620 82229925 orwww.sat.com.cnor sat@sat.com.cn

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 25, 2017, 08:04:29 am
content: What is real thermal resolution of the sensor inside?What is the price of PK160?How much is shipping to EU and US?EDIT:Found some specs here:http://www.mapleinnovation.ca/PK160-Tablet-Thermal-Imaging-CameraSensor is 160×120.Version with 80x80 sensor is 800$, so this is gonna be very expensive (not worth it):http://www.mapleinnovation.ca/PK80-SATIR-thermal-camera-technologyPromo video:

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 25, 2017, 08:11:27 am
content: Waaay to expensive: 2000$https://car-solutions.com/en/tablet-thermal-camera-satir-pk-160-on-android.phphttps://gsmserver.com/item/car-camera/tablet-thermal-camera-satir-pk-160-on-android/

author: danasat
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 25, 2017, 08:54:39 am
content: Hi Frenky thanks.Yes the thermal resolution is 160*160 for PK160 and 80*80 for PK80.For technical data pls see attached.As for price, would you mind tell me the quantity you wanna also the receiver address?Since Satire has sales sites both in China and Ireland.For more information you can visit our web:http://www.sat.com.cn/en/index.aspxor call us at 8620 82229925

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2017, 09:30:22 am
content: -sigh-Another Chinese company who doesn't understand the importance of getting a native English speaker to script and voice (or at least grammar check) their English promotional materials.Western buyers will not take a company seriously if they can't be bothered to get details like this right,And yes, it's way too expensive compared to other products on the market.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2017, 12:21:31 pm
content: I was disappointed with the technical support I received on my SATIR MinIR80.The Ireland SATIR office would not provide the docking station pinout or even sell me a whole docking station when I requested such. They just stopped answering my emails. Not good for SATIR's reputation.I have never had such support problems with FLIR or E2V (now AVON) ARGUS. Recent experience with Keysight support for my U5855a has also been excellent.For information, my MinIR camera uses a ULIS 160x120 pixel A-Si microbolometer that is windowed down to 80x60 pixels. The higher spec 160 model just has the windowing removed.Fraser

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2017, 01:38:16 pm
content: LOLChinese products are always for laugh only.Anyway, this guy is only register for Ads, he should be banned.

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2017, 12:19:45 am
content: Indeed.i have seen a YRH600, and it is hard to believe how bad it is given the alleged ULIS sensor inside and 80mK neTDHRYXJ-A is a clone of the ISG K1000http://www.satir-uk.com/catalogue-product-category/fire-fighting-and-coal-miningBill

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2017, 09:26:01 am
content: My SATIR MinIR80 is also a very poor performer. When switched on you would think it faulty. It takes ages for Thermal equalisation of the sensor. The noise content in the image produced is also pretty awful.The camera looks to use a ULIS sensor but the noise processing algorithms let the sensor down badly. Not a series of cameras I could recommend.Fraser

author: danasat
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 01, 2017, 03:09:29 am
content: Thanks for your reply. Satir will keep improving it.

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2017, 09:47:28 am
content: Hello,will SATIR provide Informations about there Fileformat?Its not hard to grab the frames from raw... but how calculate a raw to a temperature?And what about a better access to the Camera Filesystem?For example... if i bough a FLIR E4 i can change the Calibration values and calibrate the Camera at home. I also can fix death pixels by myself... i like that stuff and i guess many other too.And another example... a FLIR One has a fixed focus and deliver 160x120 Ir image. I get it for under 200euro...so why i should spend more than 1000 for a device like your PK-160?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2017, 09:56:11 am
content: @danasat,I bought the SATIR MinIR80 to investigate the quality of the product.The physical construction was acceptable and not disimillar to other China sourced thermal cameras that I have worked on.The manual focus lens and microbolometer are of decent quality.The camera falls down on the quality of the image produced and settling time.The image processing software needs work to mprove its performance.As you will know, a thermal camera product is judged on the quality of the image produced and the quality of OEM support. Both have been lacking in my experience.Your Ireland based operation were not as helpful as I would expect and declined to sell me a complete docking station which seemed unusual. I suspect they are just an agent rather than a true implant of SATIR in Ireland.The poor support was surprising as the person I communicated with used to work for the very reputable NEC AVIO company.Fraser

author: danasat
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 08, 2017, 02:09:25 am
content: @joe-cThank you for getting in touch. The SATIR camera has been designed in a way that the user cannot access the internal calibration.When comparing the price difference between the PK160 and the Flir One, they do both have the same resolution but the PK160 has a higher temperature range so that it can be used for more industrial applications.

author: danasat
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 08, 2017, 02:13:57 am
content: @FraserRegarding your comments on image quality and processing software, I will pass these comments onto our Technical team to review.I am very sorry to hear you received poor customer service, as this is something that is very important to us. We have recently set up an online store selling some entry level models of cameras and accessories. The following link is to a docking station that is used for the Minir, E8 Series and the E80, you can purchase it online via bank transfer or credit card payment that is secured using stripe.https://satirstore.com/product/e-series-camera-dock/If you have any more questions please do not hesitate to contact me, for any technical support questions the Irish Office has a dedicated email where details can be found on the following linkhttp://www.satir-uk.com/contact

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2017, 07:30:39 am
content: @danasat,Many thanks.Fraser