Standard battery shapes - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: akis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2017, 06:32:27 am
content: Why are common batteries cylindrical?When you try to build, say, a battery pack for a laptop, or some other application, you lose space due to the awkward cylindrical shape of the most common and prolific batteries: AAA, AA, C, D, 18650, 26650...Why can't they be made square ?Just wondering

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2017, 06:38:40 am
content: Well, they can be made square, for example 9 V batteries, or LiPo cells. A square or rectangular cell is called a prismatic cell.But for other cells (a cell is a single unit of a battery), a cylindrical shape is easier to manufacture. Many types, such as lithium or NiMH are made by creating a roll of thin sheets. If you roll up a sandwich of thin sheets you naturally get a cylinder.If you take other types of cell such as zinc chloride or alkaline, you want an equal distance from the center to the outside all the way round, and you want a container which is strong and easy to manufacture. Once more, cylinders come out as the most practical shape.

author: David Hess
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timestamp: April 08, 2017, 10:48:31 pm
content: A cylinder is also a good shape for holding pressure which would distort a prismatic container.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 09, 2017, 08:11:18 pm
content: The seals are a lot easier and more reliable with a cylinder too, round seal rather than corners that have to fit precisely.

author: Kilrah
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 09, 2017, 08:18:56 pm
content: Prismatic Li-Po cells are ubiquitous, and will be used when filling the volume is considered important.Apple are even known for manufacturing batteries with complex shapes for their thinnest machines - of course that has a cost, so for your bog standard machine most will just throw cheap 18650s and call it a day.

author: Robomeds
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timestamp: April 11, 2017, 01:51:34 am
content: Li-ion cells also come in prismatic shapes (though Lipos have largely taken over that market).Here is a Sanyo prismatic cellhttp://www.megabatteries.com/item_details2.asp?id=17000&cat1=&uid=1753&vfpr=&vfbr=Sanyo&vfcat=Electronics+Electronics+Accessories+Power+Batteries&vfsku=3325495&vfbi=no_bid&sid=gpla&vfsku=17000&gpla=pla&gclid=CNy8g4elm9MCFQ6oaQodR08FAQI suspect it was just easier at the time to make higher capacity cells in cylindrical form.

author: PointyOintment
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timestamp: April 13, 2017, 11:26:17 pm
content: Quote from: Robomeds on April 11, 2017, 01:51:34 amThey are the same thing.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 14, 2017, 12:31:44 am
content: They're similar. There are a multitude of different Li-based cell chemistries and physical construction. Most of the time when someone refers to "LiPo" they mean the high discharge current rated packs as used for electric RC vehicles.

author: PointyOintment
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 15, 2017, 07:51:25 am
content: I refer you to this guide by Davide Andrea (founder of a battery company, battery managment book author—you can look him up):https://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/559b1b/liion_cell_terminology_oc/

author: Robomeds
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 27, 2017, 02:23:57 am
content: Quote from: PointyOintment on April 13, 2017, 11:26:17 pmWhen I was in the battery business it was understood they were chemically the same but not mechanically the same. The mechanical differences can matter.