AUCTION (UK): Production test gear and assembly stuff - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2017, 11:11:42 pm
content: Another big Equipnet auction in the UK (Kidsgrove)Production test gear and SMD assembly stuff, lots of scopes and other test gear too.http://bit.ly/2koj4KJ

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2017, 11:30:21 pm
content: QuoteDid they dictate this over a bad phone line ?Quite a few spelling mistakes in other lots so maybe just an illiterate catalogue compiler....

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2017, 11:41:09 pm
content: Hmmm there is some neat stuff in there for hoarders like big capacitors and diodes

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 01:49:03 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 31, 2017, 11:30:21 pmIs this auction close to you Mike?

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 08:13:16 am
content: Dunno where Mike is but it's about an hour away from me.The account manager they assigned to me is not strong on spelling or grammar but does it matter if the gear is good and cheap?

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 09:33:03 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 01, 2017, 01:49:03 am"Close" in the UK is a little different to "close" in Australia!As they say, "Over here 100 miles is a long way, over there 100 years is a long time".

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 09:52:13 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 01, 2017, 01:49:03 amNo - 3 hour drive each way.If it was closer I'd go if only to look for dumpster scores. If you get there at the right time there is sometimes a lot of stuff they couldn't be bothered to lot.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 09:56:03 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on February 01, 2017, 09:52:13 amIn your experience, what is the right time more/less likely to be?

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 10:07:44 am
content: More disappointment. I wish people were being put out of work in high tech industries over here too.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 10:48:54 am
content: Quote from: tggzzz on February 01, 2017, 09:56:03 amImpossible to say - every sale is different, The thing to remember is they want to clear the place with minimum effort, and the auctioneers are generally clueless about what things actually are.sometimes stuff will get chucked when they're doing all the lotting, sometimes at some point between the business closing and the auctioneers getting involved, sometimes not til after when they need to have the building clear( and may include unsold lots).If it was really local I'd nip down to take a look as soon as it was annouced to see if there was anyone there to ask about what was happenning & also see if there was an accessible dumpster outside ( less common nowadays in industrial areas). Maybe also a day or two before viewing ( or if by appointment make one as early as possible to get in before anyone else).If there are big lots of assorted stuff, it can also be worth being there on clearance day to see if you can do deals on oddments with the people who've bough stuff ( I've had poeple buy stuff off me while loading up ).It's a few years since I've been to one of these as Ebay & online auctions have changed things a lot, but I have had some major scores in the past.Last one I came home with a long-wheelbase high-top Transit van FULL of components, of which I'd paid 3 grand for about two thirds of it, the rest was stuff they'd not lotted and let me have for the asking. ( plus half a car bootful of stuff from the dumpster on viewing day)

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 02:47:47 pm
content: Thanks; I suspected as much.I've tried asking auctioneers about unsold items, but they just want to put them back in the next sale.Where I grew up, it wasn't uncommon to take our car to the local civic amenities tip, and take perfectly good stuff away. The council began to get ratty about that, for unknown reasons. Decades later, apparently there was a gauntlet of people waiting to look at what you were tippingbeforeyou got into the tip!

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 03:21:08 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on February 01, 2017, 02:47:47 pmYou can get a 'license to extract' I believe but the simplest legal way to get other people's junk at the local tip is to ask themnicely before they heave it over the barrier, I got my Camping Gaz bottles that way instead of paying some insane non refundable deposit.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 04:24:18 pm
content: Just keeping an eye out for interesting stuff is the way to go. When throwing stuff out a women asked me if she could have the rusty lamp I just got out of my car. Ofcourse she could have it. More recently someone was dumping a whole van load of good as new wooden beams. Non of them made it into the skip! I also got a few because I succumbed to my hoarding addiction.

author: jpb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 07:24:20 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 31, 2017, 11:11:42 pmI notice from some the items that it was GEC Kidsgrove.I worked for GEC (Hirst Research Centre) in the 1980s so I wondered about the history behind this site found this from 2002:http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/jaxbar/kidsgroveworkspt1.pdf

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 07:46:43 pm
content: I notice the auctioneers require a £400 deposit.I. Think. Not. Life's too short to fly with turkeys.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 07:52:08 pm
content: This the same auction company I bought my VNA through a year or so ago at the NVIDIA clearout. Last time they had some strict rules wrt payment and collection so be prepared to pay via bank wire transfer and you have to be able to do this within a day of the auction end.It's at a different (further away) location this time though, probably about 80 miles away from me this time. However, there's nothing there that really catches my eye.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 07:56:13 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on February 01, 2017, 07:46:43 pmI think they had the same 'requirement' the last time I used them. But I didn't have to pay a deposit and was never asked for one. Once I realised I had won the item I badgered them like crazy (in both their USA and UK locations) and tried to pay and collect asap and I didn't need a deposit. The item I bought cost many thousands of GPB so I was a bit nervous sending the money via wire transfer using a mouse click. But it was all OK in the end.

author: Tandy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 08:45:21 pm
content: Thanks for the heads up but if it is anything like the PPAuctions the prices will be silly as dreamers get carried away on buying stuff they think they can sell on.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 09:02:18 pm
content: Quote from: G0HZU on February 01, 2017, 07:56:13 pmFor a Bridgend auction, I went through the rigmarole of getting them to agree that I didn't need to give them a deposit. In the end it was irrelevant since the prices were higher than I was prepared to pay.Too much hassle.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 09:03:23 pm
content: Quote from: G0HZU on February 01, 2017, 07:56:13 pmThis is quite common to weed out timewasters, but commonly not actually asked for. as is a clause that says they reserve the right to take a 10% deposit immediately on the fall of the hammer, to deter people getting buyer's remorse and disappearing.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2017, 10:12:52 pm
content: LOL:RASCAL DANA 9904 UNIVERSAL COUNTER TIMER

author: SKPang
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 03, 2017, 08:44:35 pm
content: Some of their stuff is really old.

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 05, 2017, 09:34:12 am
content: this is local to me, i'll see about attending the actual auction or at least taking a look around in person

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2017, 10:23:54 am
content: bidding is now open for this and i do have an account, they are not allowing viewings for some reason or i would have gone and taken a look so it's online only.it's located in Kidsgrove which is about 30 mins away from meTBH the test equipment looks a bit old and smelly but there could be a few things there i might bid onoh, watch out for the buyers premium, handling fee and VAT

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 07:16:19 pm
content: Quote from: dexters_lab on February 14, 2017, 10:23:54 amThere are a couple of things i might be interested in. suggestions?i tried to read the fine print but i'm not sure i understood it.

author: Tandy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 08:12:16 pm
content: Quote from: JPortici on February 15, 2017, 07:16:19 pmThere is a 16% buyer’s premium, meaning if you bid £100 you would be billed £116 then VAT will be added on top at 20% making your total £139.20. Essentially a total of almost 40% more than the amount you bid unless you have a way of reclaiming the VAT.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 08:28:14 pm
content: Quote from: Tandy on February 15, 2017, 08:12:16 pmIf you bid £X, then a handling fee, VAT and buyer's premium £Y would be added. So, if you bid X=£10 and for that item Y=£5, then I think you would pay (£10*1.16 + £5)*1.2. (but it might be £15*1.16*1.2)And then you might have to pay packing and shipping.

author: Asymmetric13
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 08:46:44 pm
content: Hi All,I hope some of you find this link useful; it is a site that offers a free Auction Price Calculator (for UK).The site allows you to specify:Base PriceBuyer's PremiumVATThe site will then show you much will actually have to pay.Hopefully this will provide some clarity for those less familiar with auction pricing structures.http://www.auctioncog.com/auction-fee-calculator-uk/

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 09:01:53 pm
content: Quote from: Asymmetric13 on February 15, 2017, 08:46:44 pmThat site presumes you don't pay VAT on the hammer price - which is fineifyou are a business and can reclaim VAT.

author: Asymmetric13
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 11:56:54 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on February 15, 2017, 09:01:53 pmHi,A hammer price, typically, does not include VAT (irrespective of whether the buyer is a business or not).Most of the queries in this thread seem to be regarding the clarification of Buyer's Premium and VAT on Buyer's Premium.The site also enables the inclusion of shipping costs.The site perform its stated function, regardless of whether VAT is due on the hammer price.If a buyer needs to pay VAT on the hammer price itself - this can be calculated directly against the hammer price and independently of the above variables; I think most people are more familiar with the practicalities of adding VAT onto a price which excludes VAT.Hopefully this means people will still be able to benefit from the site for auction specific items such as Buyer's Premium.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2017, 12:31:11 am
content: Quote from: Asymmetric13 on February 15, 2017, 11:56:54 pmCorrect, of course. But VAT still has to be paid!QuoteNo. The site clearly states "Total Cost"... "Total Amount You'll Pay", which is incorrect for most people on this site, i.e. not businesses. And any businesses won't need to use that site since they will already know the answer.QuoteAs long as people are aware of its poorly explained calculations, yes.

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2017, 07:47:27 pm
content: i bagged a couple of things, one of the 2430 tek scopes and some hv caps nobody else seemed to wanti did bid on a few other things but were not really much interest to me so didn't go much above the minimum bidif anyone needs anything picking up i *might* be able to arrange storage or shipping