Altium in Zenbook Duo Laptop - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: maxpayne
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2021, 07:08:51 am
content: Anyone is using Altium in Asus Zenbook duo series (dual screen) laptop ? Like to know how you setup Altium to take advantage of dual screen...

author: voltsandjolts
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2021, 09:15:25 am
content: Quote from: maxpayne on September 22, 2021, 07:08:51 amLooks like a nice gimmic to attract the school kids, so I assume your joking.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2021, 02:13:38 pm
content: Everything new is a gimmick. In this case I could see the lower screen being used for panels leaving the main screen free for drawing. And a modern laptop with the keyboard at the front at last!Looks like a decent tool to me. I'd buy one if I had the dosh and needed a lappy.

author: voltsandjolts
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2021, 02:52:19 pm
content: Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 22, 2021, 02:13:38 pmIn modern consumer electronics, it often seems that way, but in general engineering that's not true of course.QuoteWith that tiny screen height, you'd spend your day scrolling up and down the panels.QuoteBring your own palm rest, unless you like typing while holding your hands in mid air.QuoteConsumerism is wasteful but one upside is there is almost always something to suit everyone preferences, to the point it takes so long to make a selection that you've changed your mind about buying it!

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2021, 06:02:00 pm
content: QuoteThe panels spread out horizontally, don't they? In any case, it's only small vertically when compared to the horizontal resolution. The thing to bitch about, if you must, is the tiny dot pitch which makes this one for young eyes.QuoteIt is lower at the front than my normal keyboard. Again, if you must have something to bitch about then the flat profile or limited key travel is far more worthy.

author: voltsandjolts
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2021, 06:19:04 pm
content: Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 22, 2021, 06:02:00 pmErm, yeh, but it doesn't add information, just blank space. You need to scroll vertically to actually see more info. Do you use Altium?QuoteI think Altium on any laptop screen is for young eyes only.Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 22, 2021, 06:02:00 pmSilly ideas are always worthbitching abouthighlighting as such.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2021, 06:40:03 pm
content: QuoteYou can get quite a lot in 1100 vertical pixels, and in 'normal' mode (as opposed to the normal 'compact' mode) it's two columns anyway. With 3840 horizontally you can have multipleusablepanels simultaneously.QuoteSure, but you're banging on about non-issues. If you really really can't cope with a decent rest-less keyboard, it comes with a clip-on wrist rest just like any actual keyboard!QuoteHave you used a Zenbook? I'll bet that if you even looked at the thing you just didn't like the fancy web page. It may be a pile of poo in actuality, but you can't know that from where you are. Doesn't stop you spouting, though - perhaps you're just jealous.

author: voltsandjolts
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2021, 07:41:04 pm
content: Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 22, 2021, 06:40:03 pmI think a palette of icons in that display could work quite well. But Altium panels contain text that needs to be a readable size and there is quite some padding, so there would be lots of scrolling up and down. Adding more panels across the width of the display just multiplies the scrolling efforts accordingly.QuoteI mentioned my dislike of the keyboard once. Is that 'banging on'?QuoteGot it - you don't use Altium. And, no.QuoteI have a very positive impression of Asus gear in general, this laptop could be a great tool for graphic artists or such like. But for Altium work, call me a sceptic on this dual screen layout.QuoteWe have similar number of posts here, so are we both 'spouting' then?QuoteAre you 8 years old?

author: ANTALIFE
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2021, 11:53:34 pm
content: Lappy looks neato, but my only warning with running ECAD/MCAD on laptops is that you will see throttling at heavier loads. As laptops will always have a harder time extracting heat from CPU/GPU compared to a desktop PC

author: maxpayne
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2021, 03:59:36 pm
content: So I am using it for couple of hours. It was not a pleasant experience running Altium on it. Was not able to take advantage of the 2nd screen. When I dragged the message/pcb filter/sch filter/whatever window to the 2nd screen, those windows just disappeared. On a single monitor, this does not happen.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2021, 05:10:05 pm
content: QuoteWhen do they disappear? When you drag onto the second screen, or when you drop them on the second screen, or something else?FWIW, I have a two monitor setup and I can drag a panel (in this case 'snippets' because I don't want to screw with my panel settings!) onto the second monitor and it sits there just fine. But this is W7 and maybe W10 makes a difference.

author: maxpayne
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2021, 05:31:34 pm
content: When I drag them to the 2nd screen and drop there.It does not happen in my dual screen desktop and the dragged windows sits there in the 2nd screen just fine.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2021, 05:57:11 pm
content: I would guess it's a driver issue, then. That funky screen swapping isn't a standard Windows feature AFAIK, and perhaps Altium has triggered an edge case. Got a similar problem with ODBC drivers which work perfectly well except for one (fortunately non-critical) instance where the data is read.. differently.

author: maxpayne
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2021, 04:00:16 am
content: Ya..I think so.... from the behavior, seems like the 2nd screen is just an ultra wide USB monitor panel fitted on the top. and all those Asus drivers for adding those extra features creating the problem here. I will try to see uninstalling the driver and just go with the default windows driver. Guessing it will behave just like dual monitor setup then ...