'I Still Call Australia Home' - Page 1
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author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 07, 2014, 07:05:11 am
content: I came across an old CD featuring the classic song 'I still call Australia Home' which was performed in 1998 as part of the Qantas ad campaign by the Australian Girls Choir and the National Boys Choir.I hate advertising but to this day, nothing beats it.Whilst I can't share my CD quality version, this is near enough, enjoy (sorry, the uploader disabled embedding):

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 07, 2014, 12:14:19 pm
content: They changed the lyricsBut yes, one of the most successful advertising campaigns in Australian history.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2014, 02:11:39 pm
content: Barf. Sentimental drivel."All the sons and daughters spinning 'round the world,Away from their family and friends,But as the world gets older and colder,It's good to know where your journey ends.Someday we'll all be together once more,When all of the ships come back to the shore,Ill realise something I've always known,I still call Australia home."And how does this fictional conception in which everyone is "spinning 'round the world" by ship work for an airline advert?I think I might be inspired to book a cruise the next time I feel an urge to go overseas. Also the world is getting hotter. Duh.Seriously, I'd rather listen to Jacko.If you can't recognize him as true Australian poet, then just check out those dance moves, lol.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 07, 2014, 05:47:05 pm
content: Haha GK, that was just awful! So bad that I couldn't look away.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2014, 07:02:53 am
content: So on NPR there was an episode about feel good city songs, specially one about Calgary Canada written by Frank Gari:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_GariHere is the podcast about the Hello Calgary (first 8 minutes of the podcast):http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/520/no-place-like-homeat 5:24 they reveal how many versions there are.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2014, 07:15:32 am
content: Ha Ha GK , soooooooooo cynical, now only if we could deport all those crims that were deported from somewhere else in the olden days !

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2014, 07:26:44 pm
content: There I was listening to Kevin Wilson...................

author: BennVenn
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2014, 11:09:08 pm
content: A mate here at work was in that choir, and in that original video clip! He was also in bad boy bubby. . .

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 08, 2014, 11:39:36 pm
content: Oh amazing! Can you spot him in the crowd? What does he do now?I know one of them is now in the Army.

author: BennVenn
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2014, 11:45:23 pm
content: Could be the same bloke! Dougy is in the Navy here in Oz. Electronics Tech

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 08, 2014, 11:52:17 pm
content: Different bloke:http://nationalboyschoir.com.au/2012/09/01/nicholas-perriman-1995-98/

author: BennVenn
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2014, 12:10:10 am
content: I'll email him that link, see if he wants to make an addition

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2014, 12:11:59 am
content: Quote from: GK on December 07, 2014, 02:11:39 pmThe universe as a whole is getting colder. Peter Alan was a big thinker.QuoteBah. Couldn't even write his own drivel.QuoteHasn't got a patch on Peter GarrettFor those who aren't aware, this was our minster for the environment, heritage and arts. Seriously. Probably the only federal minster in history who actually had credibility in the fields he was responsible for.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2014, 01:02:51 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 09, 2014, 12:11:59 amAre you for real?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2014, 01:42:25 am
content: Quote from: GK on December 09, 2014, 01:02:51 amAre you for real?Yes, completely for real.You doubt Peter Garrett has musical (i.e. the performing arts) credentials, or environmental (activist) credentials? Are you for real?Say all you want about the guy or his politics and actual performance as the minster, but you can't deny he is one of the biggest names in this country when it comes to the performing arts or environmental activism.I'd be hard pressed to name another person in this country who was technically more suited for the role of arts and environment minster.

author: BennVenn
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2014, 01:52:54 am
content: Were you around for Oils on the water? Sure would have loved to see them live back in the day. Think I missed out by a decade or two...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2014, 01:55:55 am
content: Quote from: BennVenn on December 09, 2014, 01:52:54 amNever seen the oils live unfortunately.

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2014, 02:08:37 am
content: Love Midnight Oil.On the topic of Aussie bands, I worked with Deniz Tek of Radio Birdman - doing ER shifts with him during my residency training in Billings, Montana. Most of the people working with him there had no idea he was an Aussie rock star. Super nice guy and excellent ER doc.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2014, 02:59:48 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 09, 2014, 01:42:25 amAlthough a scapegoat to some degree for his governments incompetence right up to the highest level, I think a fair bit can be said for his performance as a politician, most of it not very complimentary. I don't know how you can separate his supposed "technical" suitability for his ministerial roles from his actual demonstrated performance and achievements in those roles.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2014, 02:08:24 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 09, 2014, 01:42:25 amI thought he was well suited for the job too. Despite not liking Midnight Oil much.It's a real shame Mr Garret got blamed for the ceiling insulation deaths, and forced to resign. The program was a good idea, too bad he didn't have the common sense to spot that one insulation type (metalized foil) was a death risk for installers and should have been banned. It's hard to say if that was really his own incompetence. He was warned of it multiple times, but maybe he's just not very practical-minded. Or was snowed under by the job.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2014, 02:19:15 am
content: Quote from: GK on December 09, 2014, 02:59:48 amOf course you can.I was trying to point out that it's quite rare to actually have a minster who has actual real credibility in the field they are assigned, let alone two different fields.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2014, 07:17:08 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 10, 2014, 02:19:15 amIf the job description of arts/environment minster included dancing like a spastic, singing to a level of competence passable for a soft rock band, penning feel good song lyrics and engaging in the type of two-bit environmental activism which more often that not achieves nothing because it is almost wholly concerned with the expression of moral outrage and preaching to the choir while alienating everyone else in lieu of actually thinking through and proposing real and practical solutions, then I'd think you'd have a point. But since it isn't, I just don't see it.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2014, 07:52:24 am
content: It's a bit like saying Stephen Conroy was a network architect.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2014, 11:57:50 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on December 10, 2014, 02:54:44 amSure, but what's the problem with the minster actually knowing something about their portfolio and/or having credibility in the field?That can only be a good thing.No one said a name or qualifications in the field need be a requirement. But it sure does help when the arts minster turns up to your performing arts school and it's the lead singer of Midnight freak'n Oil!Kinda helps you believe they actually know what you are on about.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2014, 12:16:45 pm
content: Quote from: GK on December 10, 2014, 07:17:08 amI'm sorry, you must not be talking about the guy who has 11 Aria awards (equivalent to the Grammy's for you Yanks playing along), song writer, inductee into the Aria hall of fame, lead singer of one of the countries greatest and most iconic rock bands, president of the Australian Conservation Foundation, and one of the leading proponents of conservation awareness this country has ever produced.You must be talking about someone else, right?Hey, FWIT Garrett was one of the worst politicians this country has seen, and a complete weasel to almost everything he once stood for. But you can't possibly deny his credibility in the performing arts and environmentalism.If there was ever a better potential fit for a ministerial position, I've never seen it.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 08:54:12 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 10, 2014, 12:16:45 pmSure I can. His skill set in the whole gamut of of the arts (what a minister for the arts is actually responsible for) is pretty limited. As for his environmentalism, he certainly gets a few lefties in an all-admiring lather and has capitalized on his activism by selling albums on the sentiment (and good for him), but that's about it and he is no messiah. Though I don't think I care enough to argue about this much if any further. You are entitled to your hero worshipI suppose that you would gauge a highly competent football player "technically" (your word) suitable to manage a football club based on their competency on the field and at kicking goals.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 09:01:37 am
content: Quote from: GK on December 11, 2014, 08:54:12 amBut he reached theabsolute pinnacleof that field (music).It's like questioning a incredibly successful EE's credentials in engineering because they are "just" electronics enigneer.Or a scientist who wins the Nobel prize in biology because they just know about biology.The amount by which you miss the point here is massive.QuoteNo, I'm just man enough to give someone credit where it is due.It seems that you are the one holding a huge grudge because you don't like the guy.QuoteComplete red herring.I made no such claim that he or anyone else with such a credentials in the field is more qualified to manage the portfolio, I'm arguing that it's a good thing they actually know something about it and have respect in those fields.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 09:17:22 am
content: Not a red herring at all. You originally wrote:"I'd be hard pressed to name another person in this country who was technically more suited for the role of arts and environment minster."It doesn't matter what pinnacle he has reached in his brand of music or how many ARIA awards that he has won for it. It doesn't make him "technically" suited for a ministerial role in charge of the arts any more than does the number of trophies a footballer has been awarded for kicking goals make him "technically" suited to managing a football club.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 09:40:58 am
content: You miss the point again.What I was trying to do is point out the fact that it is very unusual for minister to know anything about their portfolio at all, let alone be the top in their field and highly respected in not one, but two aspects of their portfolio.All things being equal, i.e. assuming Garrett was just as capable politically of managing the portfolio as any other politician, he was technically more suited to the role than any other candidate.Unless you think that having qualifications in and respect in a field, gives you no extra chops at all at doing the jobs, surely you have to concede that point?And if you do think that, then I think you are demonstrably wrong.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 09:41:46 am
content: Oops, hit the modify post instead of quote button by mistake.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 09:43:18 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 11, 2014, 09:01:37 amUm, I'm free to question the scope and implications of his implied artistic credibility - for example (just hypothetically) if someone came along and suggested that his musical greatness made him the "technically" most suitable candidate for minister of the arts that has ever existed.There have certainly been and will be ministers for both the arts and for the environment that did a much better job at their respective portfolios than did Peter Garret. I'm not sure how you'd continue to defend you assertion that despite this, Mr Garret was in fact the most technically suitable.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 09:50:35 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 11, 2014, 09:40:58 amErr, no I don't and no you didn't. Again, you wrote:"I'd be hard pressed to name another person in this country who was technically more suited for the role of arts and environment minster."Very little ambiguity there. I certainly wouldn't argue that it isn'tpotentiallybeneficial for a minister to have some qualification and experience, even if limited in scope, in the field that they are ultimately responsible for, and I'm sure that I haven't said anything to give the impression that I think otherwise; now there is a red herring.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 12:04:12 pm
content: Quote from: GK on December 11, 2014, 09:50:35 amYou did, you said this:QuoteBy saying that you are implying that his name and credibility in the arts isn't worth much/anything, because it's only in one narrow field (music), just like my analogy that a Nobel prize winning Biologist's credibility wouldn't be worth much if they turned up at an astronomy convention.I find that laughable.People in most aspects of any given field like arts, or science, or engineering, or sport, or whatever can and do appreciate someone who did their time and made it in their field, even if it's only indirectly related.I can certainly see a struggling film or sculpture student for example having respect for Garrett for getting to the top of his field of music, that means something, as they are all effectively 'artists".

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 12:10:02 pm
content: Quote from: GK on December 11, 2014, 09:50:35 amIn that case we are both in agreement, because that's all my original comment was meant to imply, nothing more.As I mentioned, the only reason I raised Garrett as an example is because it's a fairly rare thing to see a minster with credibility in their field. It's something I wish we could see more of.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2014, 02:42:50 pm
content: Qualification is merely a predictor of future performance. In retrospect, it's more useful to evaluate the actual performance. In this case, was he significantly better than other art/environment minsters?