Slovakia proudly featured in Australian commercial for insanely expensive ISP - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 01:18:59 pm
content: It's nice to be mentioned...Though the price advertised seems to be insane... I've got around 50Mbps for 10 EUR/month.

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 01:23:15 pm
content: Puts the UK to shame too. But then Japan and South Korea puts everyone else to shame.Having said that, although it's a bit tongue-in-cheek, it seems to me that they believe that Australia deserves better than Slovakia.

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 01:26:27 pm
content: QuoteActually I find it an amusing commercial.

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 01:28:15 pm
content: Not quite, as laid back as aussies are, we love to be better at something, if only to say we are,E.g. my geology teacher used to brag that Australia was the largest island, (Which is ridiculous)As far as prices go, they have been creeping down slowly with the introduction of unlimited data plans (The old way they tried to limit congestion) but its still going to be a number of years before we get close to european countries, mainly because a few large parties want to try and use and maintain copper that is over 70 years old in locations, maintaining that network is probably a fair share of the costs

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 01:29:27 pm
content: It is amusing that Australia has such a shameful broadband infrastructure. If it's not about speed, it's about quotas.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 01:45:41 pm
content: They really had to look to find something they could be better than, where there is a country recovering from both the fallout of the USSR breakup and the odd civil war. Then you look at the speed being better, and then you look at the bold price, and the small caveats below which basically sat that the big bold price is just a fallacy, the actual price is at least 3 times that, and your speed will not be better.Then again, here I am with a speed of 120kb/s, common for SA, and a price for internet that is split between the incumbent TELCO monopoly ( who gets the major share, yet just announced another round of layoffs of the staff) and the actual data provider.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 01:57:46 pm
content: Quote from: daqq on April 30, 2016, 01:18:59 pmOver here it's 35 - 40 EUR/month incl. telephone (Internet flatrate, telephone flatrate for +49 excluding mobile phones and service numbers).

author: crispus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 03:10:49 pm
content: I'm sorry for you guys. In Romania, we have for 10€ up to 1Gbps, at least metropolitan, and up to 200 Mbps to the internet.I think this is the only advantage to catch up with technology later.

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 03:21:19 pm
content: QuoteErm, I think you have us confused with someone else.QuoteVery impressive!

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 03:35:56 pm
content: EUR 23 here for 400 mbps Up/Down worldwide speed + TV (which I don't watch anyway but it was cheaper with it than without). Optical cable directly to my room.

author: ciccio
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 03:54:34 pm
content: From 30 to 40 Euro/month here for unlimited phone calls plus 10 MBs down, 1.5 MBs up (measured by me, the contract says twice these values).No fiber here, only ADSL. Fiber will come (maybe). Some cities have it, 50 Euro/month for 50 MBs..The Government makes a lot of announcements (noise?) for a plan to carry WIDEBAND almost everywhere, but for them wideband means 20 MBs.There are lot of companies that have no access to DSL, and fiber is a dream. I know somebody who payed (and maybe is still paying) about 5000 Euros/year for a direct coax connection to their factories in Spain and Switzerland....

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 04:05:13 pm
content: And that ad price is for 25mbps with 200GB limit. I can transfer few TBper dayand no one would say a word (no officially stated limit exist). Those fucktards mention Slovakia and Romania but cannot offer anything remotely comparable even not considering the insane priceQuote

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 04:56:18 pm
content: Aus has always had data caps. Way worse back in 2001 or so when Aus users had to use Telstra servers to download stuff or be penalised.

author: vodka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 05:42:12 pm
content: QuoteIt could be worse, before when we had the adsl line(6Mb down ,3Mb up for 35-40 €) , in the summer at the hour more warm the line fell every 2 minutes at worse case, for resolving we had to do shortcircuit beetween the the phone wires during a few seconds until the wires begin to spark,then the line didn't fall for a few hours.The voice line was awful it seemed to radio with the amount of the noise, you had to talk louder.Now ,with the fiber(30Mb down , 10 Mb up for 40€) ,the lines fell go down quite, but the bad luckly we persued.How many people is necessary for installing a fiber line? During the installation from my fiber line, At the first day ,we counted 6-7 person ,they worked during 4 hours and finally the line didn`t work furthermore they broke the fiber of the 1 or 2 neighbour2 weeks after, a diferent installer came and he installed the line at less 40 minutes .Since then we and our neighbours had suffered two brokenby the incompetent installer(at last December and last March).Now we make a joke of How many fiber wire will there be in the connection box for the next installer? The last installer had to do a mountain of cardboard for can solder the fiber

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 06:40:31 pm
content: QuoteI was told last year that in most chinese cities fibre connections go to most residential buildings and with something like $10/month, you get tons of bandwidth for your home + 4G cell phones.in comparison, i get 10Mbps down and like 1Mbps up for $69.99/month (cable extra) + extra for phones. It sucks to live in this 3rd world country that I'm in.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 06:54:37 pm
content: My 30 day free trial version of AVG Antivirus that I have been using for the past 3 years just gave me a warning that it's about to expire, bugger.Optus are a pack of greedy arse holes and are about to double our data allowance which we hardly even touch as it is and take away our free calls to 13/1300 numbers which we frequently use, after an in-depth phone conversation they reckon that it is to prepare people for the NBN, what a load of bullshit.Anyway here are my current speed tests below using Optus Cable, I don't know what to make of it but others might.

author: botcrusher
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 08:44:45 pm
content: I swear, everytime a government is about to yell anti-trust the telco cuts their internet...

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 05:05:42 am
content: Quote from: Rerouter on April 30, 2016, 01:28:15 pmIt all depends upon what you call an Island:-Eurasia plus Africa is,ultimately surrounded by water,even if a lot of it is frozen in the North Polar regions.The same with the combination of North & South America.Antarctica is a genuine Island,& is around twice the area of Oz.Geography (I don't know about Geology) is very Eurocentric,hence Europe which is really just a bit of land tucked onto the end of Asia,is "given a Guernsey" as a Continent.(Although the Himalayas make the Urals look like sandhills,the "Indian Subconinent" is only a "Sub"-Continent---maybe because non-Europeans live there!)Sorry, Europeans,the Urals just don't hack it!Africa is really connected to Asia as well,(sorry,Africans, the Suez Canal just doesn't hack it,either!).North & South America somehow become two Continents (Again a canal doesn't make it!).For obscure & archaicpoliticalreasons,some "Continents" mainly those in the Northern Hemisphere,are somehow regarded as the "known world",& not recognised as being Islands.Unaccountedly,Antarctica is ignored,& Australia is hence "The largest island".But then,others disqualify Oz "as it is a Continent",& proclaim Greenland as "The largest island".Australiaisa hell of a lot bigger than the silly Eurocentric "Mercator's Projection" maps kids learn Geography from would have us believe!Its distortion of high Northern latitudes is such,that Greenland,(which is,in fact,quite big at just under the area of Western Australia),appears to be three times as large as Australia.http://www.businessinsider.com.au/mercator-projection-v-gall-peters-projection-2013-12

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 05:51:22 am
content: These are 5 screen shots taken from Google Earth at the same altitude (around 10,000m) - which is the easiest way to show the comparative sizes.There's no trickery in this. This IS what it's like.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 06:43:06 am
content: Unfortunately 80% of Australia, like Antarctica, is a desert and is barely capable of supporting life.

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 06:45:05 am
content: iiNet are also known as iiBorg, due to their huge number of take overs of other smaller ISPs.Problem is unlike the borg, they don't improve as a result.They also stupidly also freeze staff hiring and improvements to data plans for months after the take over.End result, worse service, poorer value for money.Australia's internet has three problems at the moment:1. Testra, which are our version of Bell Telecom, BT etc. They basically don't give a shit if you don't have any internet available at your house.2. The big ISPs, they are perfectly happy with providing a DSL service using their equipment and Telstra's copper lines. Having to switch to fibre is seen as a threat.3. The dickhead pro corporation government these moronic companies bankrolled at the last election.No one seems to care about the customers needs.Value for Money, Reliable, Fast; pick NONE!

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 07:48:16 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on May 01, 2016, 05:51:22 amNow compare this with Russia's size. They still have a better and much cheaper internet unless it's a super remote town somewhere in the middle nowhere or village. And you actually need to provide internet only in a few relatively small areas to cover 98% of the population, as most of territory is almost uninhabited.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 08:27:11 am
content: I was literally shocked the first time I've hear about the limits, when I moved here. The guy said, 30 megabit 100 gigabyte or there is a "maxi pack" with whooping 150 giga limit. I think my brain just did not register it.This is like the one of the most dense population area you can imagine, with high purchase power, and they did not even manage to put down an extra cable for the internet. So no, internet quality has nothing to do with density and cost. Only robber barons, government stranding in the way and people having absolutely no clue that they are being abused or no way of fighting back.Yeah and BTW I waited three weeks for a technician to flip a bit so I finally have the internet. And take a vacation day, so he can plug the modem into the wall (sure, we are coming on Wednesday, maybe in the afternoon).You need something, so price is what they ask for, quaility is something that they can afford getting away with.

author: German_EE
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 08:52:27 am
content: Cable TV plus phone plus 100Mb/25Mb Internet for 24 Euro a month in our apartment block. The only bad news is the way the cable TV company hands out IP addresses as mine is 10.xx.xx.xx so running a web page or mail server is impossible (I run 192.168.x.x internally).

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 09:02:23 am
content: I watched this ad again, and you know, there is some truth in it. That "Slovakian" man is laughing till the end of the ad while the first man is showing those BS graphs, didn't know internet speed is measured in "awesomeness". So they already show you they are telling BS if you are observant enough.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 09:32:32 am
content: OK. Have added Russia.It was patched together from 3 separate screenshots to reduce the effect of excessive curvature ... it wraps around the globe too much to get anything appropriate in a single screenshot.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 10:09:01 am
content: Russia is big, no matter how you look at it. Having almost all time zones in it says that.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 11:00:09 am
content: Quote from: SeanB on May 01, 2016, 06:43:06 amOh,it supports quite a lot of life--it's just not very human-friendly!

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 11:05:16 am
content: Quote from: German_EE on May 01, 2016, 08:52:27 amDS-Lite? Do you got at least a public IPv6 address?

author: German_EE
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 06:28:44 pm
content: Sorry but I have no idea what DS-Lite is. The Internet connection along with everything else is provided by the local cable company, Unitymedia who lock down their equipment tighter than a camel's ass in a sandstorm so changing or even examining any of their settings can be a struggle. I only know about the 10.x.x.x address because of a traceroute.At least it's fast, I downloaded the Russian GP in HD in 45 minutes.