JBC 2010 cartridge availability? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: 74HC04
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2014, 11:46:38 am
content: I have recently acquired a JBC Advanced AD 2000 soldering station. I believe it was junked as it is a discontinued model.Does anyone know of a source of original or compatible cartridges (tips) for the 2010 handpiece? It currently has a 2010-001 tip which is on the way out.Thanks in advance.

author: staxquad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2014, 04:52:10 pm
content: http://www.jbctools.com/pdf/manual_AD2000.pdf2210 and C210 cartridges are compatible, so units like the JBC AD 2700 can use current C210 cartridges with it's original 2210 handpiece, but it looks like the 2010 handpiece compatibility wasn't carried forward, dropped. Only recourse would probably be diminishing old stock on Ebay.

author: 74HC04
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2014, 07:52:35 pm
content: Thanks staxquad. Searches on Ebay have been fruitless so far, so I turned here.I will keep looking.

author: electronic_eel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2014, 08:38:58 pm
content: The 2010 are out of production for several years now. Don't know if someone still has cartridges on stock. The nice thing about them was that the whole handpiece was shorter and lighter than the new C210 (was called 2210 when it came out).I remember that there was a hack available, modifying the wiring in the AD2000 station. With it you could connect C210 and C245 handpieces and their cartridges. But unfortunately I don't have the docs anymore which wires...

author: 74HC04
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2014, 08:47:20 pm
content: Thanks electronic_eel. I hope that this hack comes to light as the 2210 handpiece is reasonably priced.

author: Lazze
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 09, 2015, 06:35:18 pm
content: I hope someone would have information about this mod because I just broke my last and only JBC AD2000 2010 cartridge. I happen to own a newer C245 handle but when I plug it into the station it only gets moderately warm and doesn't melt solder. Maybe there isn't temperature feedback from the soldering tip to the station?-Lasse

author: nukie
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2015, 05:54:12 am
content: If there's no feedback how does the station know when to stop supplying power when the temperature is up.

author: dom0
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2015, 09:26:09 am
content: There's a thermocouple in the tip and a heater with a common connection (three pin cartridges). With two pin cartridges the thermocouple and heater a wired in series afaik.

author: tittu82
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 10, 2019, 03:14:57 pm
content: Hi to all!I own a great JBC AD2000 solder station, I have two old handpiece but as you probably know, there are no more spare cartdriges available, so when I will broke all my spares, there is no possibility to use this great station anymore. I know that a german guyhttps://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/254049modified the AD 2000 to use the newer T245 handpiece with a selector. Of course I tried to contact that german guy but maybe he don't read that forum anymore.I ask you if someone know how to do the modify it since I bought also a T245 handpiece with both C245 and C470 cartdriges.Consider that if I plug the T245 into the station it only gets moderately warm and doesn't melt solder, I think that maybe only two wires of the thermocouple must be inverted but I want to know that for sure in order to not destroy anything.Thank you in advance!

author: KrudyZ
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2019, 08:15:57 pm
content: I have the opposite problem.I have a ton of two pin JBC cartridges, both 2010 and 2045 sizes, but no compatible station or iron.I would love to find an AD2000 station with handle in the US...

author: tittu82
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 11, 2019, 09:38:31 am
content: Sell them me! You can after buy the newer cartdriges! Problem solved! :-)

author: KrudyZ
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2019, 03:31:32 am
content: I bought the following tips via this forum last year.I overlooked the fact that they are for the older handles only.for 2045:003x3005x5007x2012x19017x1019x2020x1026x2031x2032x7033x1036x5for 2010:001x2002x12003x4007x1008x1009x16They are now in the US...Not really interested in selling them one by one.Minimum buy would be 6 pieces for $50.Alternatively the whole lot can be had for $300.Shipping at cost.

author: 74HC04
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2020, 01:14:11 pm
content: Quote from: tittu82 on September 10, 2019, 03:14:57 pmI'd still love to try this modification if anyone can dig out any further details please!

author: likeabletom
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 09, 2020, 11:48:08 pm
content: Do you still have any of the 2045 cartridges left? i'm interested in them (all of them) if you have any left

author: leFonque
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 25, 2022, 03:28:10 pm
content: Hi everyone,Last week i've found and bought an old jbc ad 2000 soldering station. I've tried to use a T245 type handle, i've had the same problem as mentioned above, at 350 degrees (C) setting tip temperature was only about 200 degrees.I've opened it up, checked the pcb, i've found out that the controller chip was actually a 28 pin pic mcu.When i followed the the track from positive thermocouple pin of the handle on pcb, i've found the thermocouple amplifier (op07) The positive feedback resistor (at the left) of it was 1M Ohm. Amplified output was connected to one of pic mcu's adc channels.I've attached a k-type temperature tester to tip of the iron, powered the station, at max setting tip temp was 190 degrees (C), TC amp->pic adc input voltage was 4,5V Dc.I've paralled the feedback resistor with 1Meg resistor. With new feedback ratio, at maximum setting tip temperature was 350 degrees.That was my quick and painless solution, i hope if someone still (or will) have the same problem uses it.

author: 74HC04
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2022, 08:26:24 pm
content: Quote from: leFonque on April 25, 2022, 03:28:10 pmThank you very much indeed leFonque! Despite now owning a CD-2BQF, I still use my AD 2000 for most day-to-day soldering tasks and have recently damaged my 2010-001 tip (yes, the one I mentioned 8 years ago... It hasn't had much use by me until last year).I'd love to try a T210 with this station... So the only modification reuired to make the T245 work was the change of feedback resistor to 500k, right?Thank you.

author: leFonque
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 25, 2022, 09:58:22 pm
content: Quote from: 74HC04 on April 25, 2022, 08:26:24 pmYou're welcome Sir. I hope you'll try and succeed. At the attached image you may see the temp. measurement. The tip is genuine Jbc c245-903, handle is a cheap one from China which i bought online, it has the basic 3 cable connection.I think t210 tips' thermocouple response won't be totally different from t245s, maybe you'll have to try some minor resistance value changes, so it's alright to give it a try.My regards

author: 74HC04
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2022, 06:26:07 am
content: Excellent work! Thanks again

author: tittu82
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 10, 2023, 06:28:45 am
content: Wow! Founded this very old topic, yesterday I tried the parallel resistor, it worked for me with a 560kohm resistor!!!! I put a switch so I can use both old and new handpieces!!! I love my AD 2000, it is simply the best! P.S. I also own the new JBC devices.