Future of educational youtube channel - Page 1
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author: hussamaldean
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 04:44:07 am
content: Hi all,I am currently seeing that the educational youtube channels are getting less popular these days compared to comedy, music channel. this let me wonder are those channel one day will be for ever gone such as Electroboom, greatscott and bunch other channelgive us your opinion and a way to save these channel other than donationsregards

author: RobertHolcombe
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 05:57:16 am
content: Are they actually any less popular, or is "entertainment" content just more plentiful?Somewhat related, I'd class 50% or more of the channels I watch on youtube as a mix of both education and entertainment - they don't need to be mutually exclusive.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 02:18:05 pm
content: YouTube has been busy banning anything which could be even remotely dangerous or politically incorrect so it does not surprise me that the quality of otherwise educational channels has decreased.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 02:22:24 pm
content: In some circles there is a depressing hostility to self-education.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 02:23:54 pm
content: Quote from: hussamaldean on December 20, 2018, 04:44:07 amWhy do you want another way to save these channels than donations? That is the way to save them. Even if Youtube cuts the revenue completely, they still survive.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 03:35:31 pm
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 20, 2018, 02:23:54 pmPatreon has also starting banning donations to anything which could be even remotely dangerous or politically incorrect. When an replacement for Patreon was created, Paypal and the credit card companies stopped it.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 03:48:37 pm
content: Quote from: David Hess on December 20, 2018, 03:35:31 pmI missed this. Do you have links or sources? I'm striking out.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 04:04:09 pm
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 20, 2018, 03:48:37 pmIt picked up before the Sargon of Akkad incident with Patreon. More than one alternate to Patreon (Subscribestar was one) was started which was then quashed by Paypal and the credit card companies. We have been discussing the situation in IRC and private forums so I do not have any good links to what ultimately happened. There is a concerted effort now to build an alternate to Patreon and perhaps YouTube but I see no way to get past the banks and credit card companies.

author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 04:08:45 pm
content: I used to put videos about satellite reception, professional field meter, etc. on Youtube. I must have around 10 (!) subscribers and a few tens of thousands views.About a year ago I discovered a "fireplace" channel on Youtube: they show different fireplaces in 2-8h long videos. Like only the fireplace.They have tens of MILLIONS views!I lost interest in publishing videos.It is what it is. People want videos with 10h of fire, rain, birds...Regards,Vitor

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 04:20:44 pm
content: Quote from: Bicurico on December 20, 2018, 04:08:45 pmThere's nothing wrong with making targeted content for a select group. That's one of the beautiful things about the internet. Even the most obscure things have a place. Obviously a channel about satellite gear isn't going to interest the same audience some easy to digest content or entertainment. Some channels service the lowest common denominator, but you tend to sacrifice a lot in terms of actually being interesting.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2018, 10:39:35 pm
content: Bicurio,There is nothing wrong with a ten hour video of logs burning. Thats a great thing about cheap storage and net bandwidth - cheesy stuff like that is now possible.People shouldn't worry about other peoples stuff, just please yourself and do what you want to do the best you can, just please your self. Chances are you know more about the things that interest you - satellite reception, etc (something I wish I knew more about!) than others,they will learn the most if you just do it the way you know it needs to be done.

author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2018, 12:21:04 pm
content: Oh, I am not sour or sad. I just gave up on the hope of monetizing my videos.If you want to be a successfull Youtuber and make money out of it, you need to provide content for the masses.This doesn't mean I won't keep doing my videos, but obviously it is harder to get funds for the equipment - the funds come right now from my own budget, that is shared with our family's living costs and my wife and daughter want to buy their stuff, too.I have much respect for people like Dave or for instance the 8Bit Guy (just to name two I follow): living from this on non-mainstream subjects is really difficult.Regards,Vitor

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2018, 02:08:26 pm
content: Quote from: David Hess on December 20, 2018, 04:04:09 pmThere's cryptocurrency, at least in countries where its use is not too restricted by law.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2018, 09:26:59 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on December 20, 2018, 02:22:24 pmlike what?i heard there are starting to develop chemistry communities (like reddit) that frown on experimentation for some reason. not sure why its seen as unprofessional, weird culture. kinda brainwashygranted eevblog has its fare share of mass production oriented bullshit too. i noticed some people really need to defend themselves from being told to use services that may or may not offer marginal quality increases or time savings. i think its bleed through from big business mentality

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2018, 10:26:56 pm
content: Quote from: NiHaoMike on December 21, 2018, 02:08:26 pmThere is until the cryptocurrency needs to be converted and PayPal, the bank, or card blocks it.Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 20, 2018, 03:48:37 pmShad just posted a video about what happened which I was not expecting.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2018, 01:56:29 pm
content: Well, like in the US many wealthy people don't want to see more "STEM" graduates, they are quite satisfied with the numbers we haveand they don't want more young people developing skills that, in their opinion will just give them 'unrealistic expectations' of being able to use those skills to find employment in the future.They also don't like the creation of new knowledge which might make a case that prevents technology developed by the commercial world from being patentable and maximally exploitable for money. To them every new idea or invention must be patented and exploited by somebody and when its instead given to the public domain that makes them angry. For the same reasons they hate open source software. There is a bigdebatediscussion, going on about this but its totally out of our view, deliberately so, in various think tanks.Basically, there is a war going on between -Read up on the Inclosure Acts in the UK centuries ago, and what they did. Like that.Quote from: coppercone2 on December 21, 2018, 09:26:59 pmWhen you are on top all positive change is seen as a potential threat unless you control it fully. They want to 'future-proof' the future - (thats where the trade deals like GATS and TiSA and privatizing education come in.) - BUT -'Future proofing' the un-knowable future is impossible.The real future is totally unpredictable.Also, its really stupid to try to exclude all but a privileged group from having access to learning or instantiation (permission to speak, to exist) meaning not just from degrees - also entry to a world of work protected bycostly screens. Which is whats happening. In all professions. Its happening because jobs are becoming scarcer so the elite and economics 101 say that wages should be in free fall the more jobs are done by machines.What this meant before is that only the very best will be able to find work - but its being changed into a situation where the very best of the best plus only those who can pay to get their feet in the door by doing work for almost free will find entry into the world of professional work. Plus the bread and butter, meat and potatoes core of the jobs in technology, especially IT, healthcare and teaching, are being turned into precarious low wage labor transacted by 'body shop' firms across intntnl. borders. Which only recently in the US is supposed to comply with US minimum wage laws (before it didn't) Even that may be challenged. (see the WTO document mentioned below)By fiat, because of a push to use 'services' (80% of a modern economy) to 'pay back' the most unequal countries for participation in trade deals. This has been framed as the repayment of a debt to them. The plan dates back to the late 80s, and began officially after 1995 but because of endless 'rounds' of negotiations including Uruguay, Doha, etc. plus now a newer 'plurilateral' agreement outside of the WTO which is intended to be merged with it at a later date, driven by a group called "Friends of Services" (negs started in 2006) or ('Really Good Friends of Services" (2013) by the US, EU and Australia, the process is only just beginning. When it gets going itis supposed to save trillions of dollars that it is claimed would be wasted on 'too overhigh wages'. (Its main goal is to push wages in developed world down to more approximate wages in the developing world to free up more profits, even if that requires eliminating all laws that stand in the way and putting the WTO in charge of intra-corporate work travel for periods of up to many years, perhaps decades, as long as the flows are defined as temporary.)In order to do that a very wide scope has been defined as covered by these agreements.Lots and lots and lots of good jobs are being put up for bidding to become subcontracts, and bid on internationally. Services are supposed to be 'liberalised' which begins with jobs involving tax money that are currently done by civil servants and domestic NGOs, instead they must be fed into a global e-tendering system - put up for bidding with the implicit recognition that the developed countries wont be able to cut wages low enough to get the contracts, so basically they are, with additional help from theLDC Services Waiver, supposed to be farmed, if it is possible farmed out to Least Developed Countries, (LDCs) wealthiest firms, which are being set up by insiders to do this.Because they feel that having to pay national minimum wages would impede their principal advantage, being able to pay workers almost nothing, a fairly large group of unequal nations have stated upfront that theydon't want 'wage parity' or economic need tests to apply..See WTO document "TN/S/W/14"I don't know if you have traveled much but the educated in poor countries are basically just the wealthy. Poor people - at least in most poor countries, are almost never able to attend college, certainly not to get to the MS level which is where these visas generally kick in. So with some exceptions, channeling jobs to body shop firms, which employ degreed people in poor countries (they must have been employed for a year and have special skills of some kind) more often than not, has the effect of helping the children of the wealthiest people in the developing world, quite specifically, and displacing others who currently do the work by supplying workers who are working for in many cases a tiny fraction of what somebody would typically be paid for a job. Sories abound in the US of firms that advertise their ability to work for almost nothing, replacing entire teams of high skill workers. Smart companies with unique products don't do this but many third and fourth tier companies do.This end run around what used to be the law, is similar to slavery and indentured servitude in the Middle Eastern countries in that it creates a powerful corrupting influence on everybody who comes into contact with it, they are all trying to figure out how to make lots of money off this pool of desperate young people.They are good workers, and deserve a decent wage. Most are just normal people who are trying to get decent jobs like everybody else, with the difference being that their parents, from countries where bribery is common, are willing to pay to get them the years of experience that employers want to see in new hires.In the US at least, there is still a path to immigration and citizenship through the channels we know of and despite the media carnival, most Americans do generally approve of immigration in skill areas we need, and to reunite families, and for 'the best and the brghtest' in tech and the arts and also political refugees fleeing oppression.However, what is happening is powerful forces want to capture transnational money flows and turn non-immigrant work travel into a dominant piece of work in certain sectors in order to prop up authoritarian regimes.Also the developing countries - critical of a 'brain drain' have gotten the ear of the developed world and they want to replace the kind of worker, who is fleeing corruption (them) and replace them with wealthier people whose families have gotten rich off of corruption.Immigrant workers intend to become part of their new home country for good, while disempowered "Mode Four" workers are in a very restrictive emplyment situation where they can not negotiate wage increases (if fired they have to immediately leave the host country and are often sued upon their return home)They cannot exit this exploitative system so easily. This aspect of WTO managed "supply chain" is called "Mode Four" (after the "Four Modes of Supply which were first defined in the 1990s WTO services agreement, which is intended to permanently change the world's service sectors.) and are the subject of "Movement of Natural Persons" annexes in services trade agreements.Basically trade agreements are being substituted for national laws regulating work permissions (not permanent immigration, as Mode Four is involving work for hire only and is officially classified as 'non-immigration'.)Temporary, for example in the US, typically only for six years per visa.Currently one popular kind of visa under this kind of agreement is limited to 65,000 per year giving a total of around 260,000 workers at any one time. But there are others.The powerful advocates of this scheme want to get rid of these numerical quotas completely and 'let the market decide' how successful these firms become. They also want to 'progressive liberalization' widen the scope to include more and more low skill jobs, saving even more money, until every public jobs with the exception of the government and national security is either done by a civil servant of a domestic firm exempted for national security reasons. Other work will go to the lowest bidding firms, whomever they are. As time passes, wages are expected to fall bringing developed country wages more in line with those in the developing world. A 'race to the bottom'. These 'efficiency gains' even though they are defined as large job losses - because they increase profits (but, who will buy the products?) are defined as one of the main 'benefits' to owners of businesses of these services agreement.So where will the displaced workers go? There has been a fair amount of criticism of these proposals but as only a certain segment of government and academia are even aware that these negotiations have been going on and these agreements signed or pending, the general public remains almost totally unaware of these changes which are intended to become so costly to reverse or defy that they are for all practical purposes irreversible. They will have the effect of discouraging young people from entering tech fields because they wont be able to get work, and if they do manage to, they wont pay well. In addition to requiring a substantial body of skills.Without the job motivator to go to college, few will be able to afford to do it only for the experience and big picture, families will be in crisis and many will be losing homes. Many may attempt to emigrate to countries less involved in this system, as happened in the past. There they may become marginalized and deprived of the ability to put down roots. The growing numbers of dispossessed may eventually be pushed out to the margins of society, gathering in the nether lands, perhaps areas partially flooded by sea level rise, and/or toxic chemicals - where such places exist.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2018, 02:14:38 pm
content: Quote from: David Hess on December 21, 2018, 10:26:56 pmI don't really see how that has to do with banks blocking alternatives being set up.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2018, 07:15:56 pm
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 22, 2018, 02:14:38 pmThat is what happened to Scribestar which he mentioned. I suspect similar pressure was put on Patreon. It is now anold story in the USwith New York governor Cuomo continuing it which is why theACLU got involved in the current NRA lawsuit.

author: LapTop006
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 04:10:49 am
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on December 21, 2018, 09:26:59 pmIt's certainly not restricted to chemistry, all of the sciences have their collections of theoreticians for whom experimentally testing things is almost an insult, sometimes they're in power.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 04:39:50 am
content: Matt Christiansen just posted a transcript of his discussion with Patreon. Make up your own mind about what is happening:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U0mQjUA0T5INc_GDkwPJ2mfhO7tbaIogisSqqxHw0hc/previewAbout half of the science and engineering channels that I regularly watch on YouTube report videos being demonetized or taken down for obscured or nonobjective reasons.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 04:59:59 am
content: There is what amounts to a globalpreemptive strikeby a corporate lobby on non-corporate (and public) learning.

author: Inverted18650
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 05:09:01 am
content: Nearly every college in the U.S. is currently giving students enrolled in "STEM" related degree or certificate programs a $1000 Grant. Its not a loan, and if you don't finish your program, you do not have to pay it back. It is a per semester "Grant," an incentive to pursue those career fields.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 05:14:23 am
content: Quote from: David Hess on December 22, 2018, 07:15:56 pmSorry, there's nothing in there remotely connected to Patreon alternatives being surpressed.There are few people on these forums who tend to post all kinds of unrelated links in an attempt to substantiate their typically fairly rambling stories, but so far I hadn't taken you to be one. Please don't be one.

author: Inverted18650
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 05:21:45 am
content: So if YouTube is killing channels, how can we all come together to make something that we have control of and ensure that the content we all enjoy and learn from is consistently available? Can we incentivize those running Bit Coin (and other cryto's) to host our medium instead? They already have the gear, all we need is organization and a sense of community. If we all concede there is a problem, lets go about finding a solution. Some of the brightest minds in the world gather on this forum, its just a matter of working out the details.

author: Inverted18650
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 05:51:06 am
content: Quote from: David Hess on December 23, 2018, 04:39:50 amWOW! Read all 13 pages and the message seems pretty clear. They are not simply a banking intermediary, they want and choose to get involved with politics, based on their shareholders requests, on a case-by-case basis. In short, if you piss off a "powerful" shareholder, bye-bye.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 01:42:14 pm
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 23, 2018, 05:14:23 amSo there is no similarity between banks refusing to do business with otherwise legal businesses at the behest of the government and other interests and PayPal and other payment processors doing the same thing? What a relief, I was worried for a while that the West was entering a new era of censorship. Paypal and Stripe pulling support from SubscribeStar crippling it after Subscribestar provided services to the people Patreon kicked off must have just been a bad dream.Do a search for "SubscribeStar PayPal" and decide for yourself what is going on. A search will reveal no lack of links describing what happened.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 02:02:49 pm
content: I would be very surprised if there was not some totally legal and above board way to support any legitimate educational content. Likely whats happening is something else. I am serious that there is a war being waged against public education, everywhere, as well as non-college self education.See statementshereandhere. You can read longer essays about this 'second enclosure' and its likely impact on education in the references below.The idea of the free university and all public domain learning is under attack.Its framed as a theft of the opportunity to make the maximum amount of money on it.http://www.ufjf.br/eticaefilosofia/files/2009/11/11_2_ana.pdfhttp://www.jceps.com/wp-content/uploads/PDFs/02-2-02.pdfSince education is supposed to become totally commercial some deep pocketed providers may be angry when others provide better content for less, enough to pay* to have that content impeded. "Throw money at it" they say.*This applies to the industry of lobbying.See the problem? Since the shift to an amoral system based totally on money governments - administrative divisions under that system will always default to whatever makes someone the most money.Is they feel they have to lie they will because there is no law against politicians lying, just against 'measures' that would cause adverse changes in profits, even if that 'measure' is simply telling the truth. because the term 'measure' is very broad and it includes everything they might do (or not do).

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 03:09:29 pm
content: Quote from: David Hess on December 23, 2018, 01:42:14 pmFinally something tangible. It would have helped to have that last bit the first time. The internet is filled with people with all kinds of persecutory fever dreams, who tend to reinforce their own beliefs with all kinds of unrelated "evidence" and other obfuscating smoke screens. Even our otherwise fairly pleasant forums suffer from them. You could spend whole lifetimes cutting through the nonsense some people spout.It seems the question is whether some companies have the right to refuse doing business with certain people. This becomes an issue when these companies are too big to ignore. It's one of the reasons why many people consider net neutrality to be vital. Can you imagine your internet provider having a say in the content you see? I'm not aware of a movement which promotes neutrality when it comes to payment processing in a similar way.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 08:11:09 pm
content: What about the cashless movement? For example, in India, cashless cities. Isn't that the whole idea?>It seems the question is whether some companies have the right to refuse doing business with certain people.As long as its private company making the decisions its increasingly not a matter for governments to decide.Governments are getting out of the regulation business.Also standstills apply to banking and insurance.They can only be de-regulated, (capturing the autonomous level of regulation on the standstill dates (in 1995 or 1998)In other words, they cannot be re-regulated. Thats called 'progressive liberalization'.See discussion of standstill athttps://www.democracynow.org/2014/6/20/a_plan_only_banksters_will_loveAll these Internet banking and financial services companies are key parts of the cashless future.

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 08:45:39 pm
content: Quote from: David Hess on December 21, 2018, 10:26:56 pmWhere not restricted by law, cryptocurrency can be used directly to buy goods and services, bypassing the usual financial services altogether. Basically use it as a form of cash that works online.The idea of running a machine at home to help out your favorite content creators is, in my experience, really enjoyable for the DIYers. It combines the fun of doing your own project with the good feeling of having made a positive impact on the DIY scene. Also fun to find ways to do it better, of which I have some Swagbucks mining code I have shared with a few of my trusted friends in order to help content creators caught up in the recent mess...Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 23, 2018, 03:09:29 pmI strongly advocate building wireless P2P mesh networks to keep ISPs honest. It doesn't have many of the hurdles encountered by cryptocurrency adoption, but unlike cryptocurrency, there's currently little incentive to do it. Maybe develop a cryptocurrency where the mining is centered around providing connectivity? I can't think of a way to make that work but maybe someone else can...

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 09:41:14 pm
content: Does a non-Google URL exist for this?Quote from: David Hess on December 23, 2018, 04:39:50 am

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 04:32:33 am
content: Quote from: cdev on December 23, 2018, 09:41:14 pmI had trouble with it also. I managed to copy it sans formatting to pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LB9CvDVgMatt Christiansen provides the Google Docs link and other things through is Twitter is here:https://twitter.com/mlchristiansen?lang=enQuote from: Mr. Scram on December 23, 2018, 03:09:29 pmThe social circles I am in began to see this as serous problem years ago when Google started censoring search results which spread to YouTube and the ACLU changed their policy on defending free speech. What Patreon did was a complete surprise to me it is difficult to provide good links to such a quickly developing situation.I did not consider it an imminent threat until YouTube started kicking off videos having to do with chemistry, nuclear reactions, mechanical engineering, and firearms. Ever notice how many video producers now mention being "demonetized" with a nervous chuckle? That did not start from a vacuum. When distribution moved to other platforms, they were removed there as well.I consider educational videos too late to save. Too many people wanted content they objected to removed and got their wish. We will all get the internet they deserve.QuoteThat is the common response when this is brought up but I gave two examples where withholding financial services was at the behest of government. Financial companies in a monopoly position or doing it in collusion risk violating anti-trust laws but who is going to enforce that. The current fear is that free speech protections which only apply to government action, and in a practical way not even there, will become irrelevant when corporations hold this kind of power.Net neutrality in the US never existed in any form. AT&T blocked IPv6 at the protocol level for years and conducted MITM attacks and as far as I know, still does. I complained to the FCC and they did not care either. Tunnel and encrypt absolutely everything except in the UK and Australia where it is illegal now.And is there any fucking way on this forum to include a link to a YouTube video without embedding the video? This is the third time this month a link has destroyed my post.

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 05:06:16 am
content: Going back more to what the O.P was chatting about YouTube decided I needed to see this today. I have read this thread and not watched any other videos relating to the YouTube algorithm but Mmm was BigBrother watching meYear old but it includes some data where he deliberately tried playing the algorithm for advantage on his main channel.https://youtu.be/03dTJ4nXkXw

author: apis
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 05:06:59 am
content: Quote from: David Hess on December 25, 2018, 04:32:33 amWithout net neutrality tunnelling and encrypting will only work until they start blocking that too (or limiting the bandwith and/or charging extra for it).

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 06:12:27 am
content: The trouble with education is as the circle of political correctness expands, it is touching more and more circles of education, even in the circle of science education where you may think they should not touch.Recall a thread right here in this forum: "Science as racist" and we must decolonize science...This kind of language is in at least one USA college. "Decolonize this space" was heard during rioting students' meeting with the College President of Evergreen College.This is not a quote, but I believe my summation here correctly reflected the view of a "professor in exile" from Evergreen College : When you need to make sure that the number of students passing in BS level science must be "fair" to every identity group, teaching science is kind of hard. So instead of using a scientist (with a degree in science), increasingly, academia are using "science educators" (with a degree in education) who can "teach these subjects" in a politically correct manner. [Above is my summation of an interviewof Heather Heying - she called herself a "Profession in Exile" after leaving Evergreen where she was a tenured Evolution Biology Professor.]Unless all these education videos (science or otherwise) are made in such manner, they are going to be under more and more pressure. More and more will disappear.-------------------------------------------------------------------------References:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/science-must-be-abolished-according-to-uct-students-as-it-is-racist/https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/6e2ryp/black_girl_decolonizing_the_space_around_the/Here is a link to that very long interview, also on Patreon but, as the interviewer said on other occasions, trying to find an alternative real fast. The discussion of equity of outcome is dotting though the video, the discussion of how STEM education is beginning to go off track is near the end of this video which is part1 of the entire interview:

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 02:50:44 pm
content: Dani Rodrik's 'trilemma' explains some of what we're seeing. Transnational business (and Alphabet, Facebook, Twitter, even Patreon and all the other financial service entities are businesses) and want 'certainty' on a level that conflicts with democracy and prudential regulation of their powers.TNCs are asserting their new found power over nations in the economic sphere while nations are gaining legitimacy based solely on their being in power, and a right to spy and censor.A divine right of kings.Its a dark day for humanity because human rights and democracy are being dis-empowered intentionally, by design by the web of FTAs. Its a license to repress all the aspirations of humanity that conflict with the oligarchy's vision of what should happen now (a race to the bottom in all things.) Instead of the outcome humanity wants- a race to the top.Its education thats under attack, and the 'unrealistic expectations' the educated have of a path to economic participation if it conflicts with the multilateral trading systems 'rules based system' which now trades jobs like poker chips with the goal of lowering all wages.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 03:46:44 pm
content: I have a theory of what might be going on. Its clear all educational vehicles outside of the commercialized ones are under attack internationally. Including all public higher and adult education, in a very stealthy way. Educational organizations have published formal statements decrying this. Also financial services deregulation is being pushed on the world, despite the lessons of 2008 and previous events. All the regulation imposed after 2008 is being rolled back. There is extreme pressure to deregulate even if it makes all sorts of usury common and and FS providers unauditable. All the big internet companies have aspirations of being ajor players in a cashless future where countries have total control over the physical (political) sphere and TNCs over the economic, (Democracy is being stripped of power by FTAs) It seems to me that countries may be demanding new rights to spy and censor from corporations in exchange for all the new abilities being given to the TNCs to dump unprofitable universal service obligations.Any universal service obligations (Basically all safety nets that help people when there is a market failure) that remain will probably be limited to the least trade restrictive measures, means tested, time-limited and gradually reserved for only the official least developed nations (LDCs) The way they frame it the past 20 years have been a phasing out period for 'non-conforming measures' and its time for them to end and the market opening to begin, which will cost the middle class their jobs - they all seem to be overjoyed as this is a global con job, a dirty deal in a very sleazy way, to dismantle what remains of the social contract. Everywhere!

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 04:59:36 pm
content: More nonsense behavior from Patreon.https://twitter.com/Scott_Helme/status/1077254028453654529The usual lack of communication and billing gaffs.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 05:11:01 pm
content: Quote from: station240 on December 25, 2018, 04:59:36 pmI'm honestly baffled that people are so surprised by this. Paypal and other payment processors halted payments and confiscated the balance of Assange nearly a decade ago.

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 07:10:44 pm
content: For those too lazy to actually read the twitter thread, here is a summary:1. Creator notices he's not getting paid in time, hence no money for christmas.2. Logs onto Patreon and finds a small notice on one page, no other messages or emails.3. Patreon page still active, taking in money but not paying out.4. Contacts Patreon to find out what the actual cause of this problem is.5. Finds out ONE new Patreon has suspicious payment details, likely declined payment. Hence has been blocked from donating to anyone.6. Creator account was blocked for someone that never gave him money in the first place.7. Patreon are almost entirely to blame, as they changed payment processing providers, to one in another country.Thusly setting off alarms in bank fraud protection for sudden payments made to another country.Patreon management is just moronic.Talk to the banks and sort this out properly, instead of dealing with one declined payment at a time.Publicly tell ALL Patreon supporters that there is an issue with payment, and they should talk to their bank first.

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 08:32:05 pm
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 25, 2018, 05:11:01 pmA famous quote fromMartin Niemöller(early post WW II):"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist.Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me."And, don't forget this a quote from (probably)George Santayana:"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."We all have to defend speech even when we disagree with it. It is not going to be easy: somewhere, some speech are against the law. Even in some western countries, you cannot say certain things or you must say certain thing in certain way.I believe those who want "education locally controlled" are correct here - at least some part of the country wont all be dummies. The smaller the locality, the better to increase the diversity of ideas. If some school still want to teach "earth is flat", let that small locale have all the idiots instead of having a whole country of idiots.

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 09:04:40 pm
content: I have also noted the strange goings on at Youtube but I have no idea what is happening or what is causing it. Initially I just think it may be business decisions I do not understand. Maybe even very mistaken business decisions which may backfire on them. But it is difficult to understand that they demonetize videos of how to make mousetraps is they show dead mice or they use the word "kill" but they allow videos showing crap like perpetual motion, free energy and even very dangerous things that could get someone killed, like ways to steal electricity (which don't even work). It is puzzling.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 10:41:44 pm
content: Quote from: hussamaldean on December 20, 2018, 04:44:07 amNo, they aren't getting less popular, they are in fact continually growing. They simply don't grow as large or fast as other channels that produce mainstream content, and that's the be expected.Obviously only a very small portion of the popular are going to be interested in engineering, or physics, or whatever.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2018, 10:44:51 pm
content: Quote from: Rick Law on December 25, 2018, 06:12:27 amNope, we aren't disappearing, we are growing, and more are coming online every day.Not a single one of us (that I am aware of) is the least bit influenced by all the SJW crap happening in universities. We don't care, and there is no one pulling our strings.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2018, 01:51:43 am
content: Quote from: apis on December 25, 2018, 05:06:59 amAT&T blocked IPv6 tunneling without repercussions despite "net neutrality" so I can hardly disagree. But I think tunneling and encryption are the best way to fight back and that legal protections are useless when concentrated interested own politicians and dilute interests merely vote between unpalatable alternatives.Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 25, 2018, 05:11:01 pmThere have been an increasing number ofsimilar incidentsin the US going back years affecting legal businesses.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2018, 03:21:45 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 25, 2018, 10:44:51 pmAre you sure your youtube strike or whatever it was is purely a copyright issue, and not due to SJW pressure somehow? I'm not so sure, because that's is traditionally how they solidify their power before publicly admitting that's what they are doing. That is how it happened in universities, after all.Granted, I could be wrong. I just want to know how certain you are about this, that's all.

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2018, 09:02:08 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 25, 2018, 10:44:51 pmThanks! It sure will be very disappointing if this forum or your videos are to disappear.I am sick of these SJW stuff as well. I hope we (the world) will stop this SJW stuff from growing further. U of Chicago made a great start last year. Now it has a name "Chicago Principles" on Wikipedia. I hope more universities will follow Chicago's example. With luck, Political incorrect speech will be back as maybe being impolite, but not as speech that is against university speech codes or or illegal.Quote from: Rick Law on March 22, 2018, 09:03:54 pm

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2018, 01:39:08 am
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on December 26, 2018, 03:21:45 amHow does one tell? Conveniently, YouTube has a copyright enforcement system independent of the DMCA which features even less accountability.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2018, 08:01:44 am
content: Quote from: David Hess on December 27, 2018, 01:39:08 amOh, I was looking for purely opinion-based thoughts; especially if the moderation report or other communications with Youtube regarding the matter have changed in their tone, and so on. I don't use a Google account, so I have no idea whether Google's stance wrt. content moderation, and their communications about it, have changed; nor how.I am observing certain behaviours (tribal antagonism [if you disagree, you are evil by definition], and especially shunning [as opposed to debate on matters] and arguments based on authority as opposed to content of argument) getting more and more widespread among free/open-source projects, and am interested in why it is happening, and in what other cultural facets it is happening. I do realize there is a significant probability of me just becoming old and out of touch from todays culture, especially because I don't consume much mass media.If there is SJW pressure inside Google/Youtube moderation, I'd expect it to be a cultural shift (as to what is acceptable, and what should be rejected from the platform), rather than as pressure towards specific individual Youtubers. At this point, I'd expect the pressure towards specific individual Youtubers to be external, similar to how vocal activist groups de-platform speakers at some universities, rather than inside Google/Youtube; as I believe it takes a couple of years at least for the cultural shift towards SJW'ism to manifest that openly. But what do I know? Not much.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2018, 09:23:26 am
content: Quote from: LapTop006 on December 23, 2018, 04:10:49 amclown mathematicians?like the ones that pick a solution to a differential equation they figure out how to solve (that has like 50 solutions), do it 3 more times for increasingly complex solutions and end up being useful something like 1500000 years in the future in a alternate universe before a experiment can be set up?reminds me of hard mathematicians that tried to re-write some kind of ultra formal stick of inconel in your ass solution to something? (the slashdot comment said they basically hated diagrams and plots and wanted everything in proof language). Like a re-write of how geometry is taught. so no one knows what the fuck is going on.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2018, 09:30:09 am
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 23, 2018, 05:14:23 amhow about the Wix tie ins? anyone else notice the Wix tie ins? i hope dave jones does not advertise wix. And now its NordVPN. well you know if you smoked a crack rock before you watched this video about how to sharpen a knife consider NordVPN so the FBI can't arrest you for having proper cutlery and watching cat videos on youtube. try 'the infographics show' on youtube. every video has some kind of e-service bullshit being shoved down your throat with a half assed pun. the people doing the advertisements with those puns sound like mommy is tickling their feet when they do it.fuck skill share too. yea thats right your no longer getting proper skills on youtube. go pay us on skill share for the same shit. wanna know how to paint a easter egg? remove a paper clip from your shoe? cut cardboard? boil an egg? skill share is for youlol I used to rage on those amazon tie ins on youtube, where you put a amazon link to the product you are reviewing for a commision, but in retrospect its better then some fucking irrelevant e-service. i just watched a video about a heat sink review and linus is telling me about some fucking VPN service. i wonder whats on your hard drive bro