another EBAY scam - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: R_G_B_
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2015, 05:53:07 pm
content: another EBAy scam and 46 bidshttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141679188894?_trksid=p2045573.m570.l4455&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI141679188894.N7.S2.M10.R4.TR7R_G_B

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2015, 06:06:10 pm
content: Why would this listing be a scam?

author: Deathwish
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 29, 2015, 06:10:45 pm
content: 45 feedback, 7 for sales and all of usb leads mainly. then he sells 2 of these in one auction ?. smells of fish

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2015, 06:16:01 pm
content: Sorry but that is just complete nonsense! This thread better be removed!

author: R_G_B_
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2015, 08:05:23 pm
content: 2 x Rigol DS1074Z brand new sold for £343And its not a scam..... Sounds like scam to me. Plus the pictured why not post the actual pictures of them boxed up. Most people have access to a Camera.Have tred very careful on eBay!R_G_B

author: LaurenceW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 06:18:43 pm
content: Lookcarefullyat this guy's previous sales.SIX HUNDREDusb leads, thenONElead...? Come on. This cheapskate can't even fake his own images, FFS! He uses somebody else's.One day listings? No feedback from previous buyers of these scopes? <sniff> I'm getting fish paste. And it smells past its Best Before date....Anyone who genuinely defended this sort of (poor) scam is either naive, or in on the scam. Which is it, I wonder?Smells fishier to me than a trawler.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 07:16:11 pm
content: To me it is simple: if it is a scam then that is what Paypal + Credit card insurance are good for. I have been using Ebay for over a decade and I really know a scam when I see one but this is just a guy unloading excess inventory (just like Toploser does on this forum while asking grazy low prices). There is no requirement for payment through wiretransfer and he only sells within his/her own country. If you want to scam people then rule number one is to pick people who are in a country far away. Caveat emptor always applies when buying from someone you don't know.

author: Rick
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 07:23:44 pm
content: He may be a legitimate seller who holds different accounts on ebay and does not sell on this particular one. I don't know. But beware of stock photos. That already happened to me. Ask for the pics and SN of the actual device.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 07:48:06 pm
content: Can be just his first set of scopes that he got from some liquidator from some company that went belly up and had two unopened scopes, I guess he could post pictures of the boxes but why?I guess we wait and see for the feedback if any.

author: mikerj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 07:54:30 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on May 30, 2015, 07:16:11 pmYou certainly don't sound like you've been using eBay for long. This is pretty much the oldest trick in the book, build up a reasonable amount of feedback by selling lots of very cheap items, and then sell something much more expensive. The fact that you would trust Paypal protection to cover any losses also suggests little experience.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 08:29:48 pm
content: I have been down the Paypal claim road several times so I do know it works. When in doubt I use my credit card which doubles the protection. If Paypal is not working with me then I just offload the problem to the credit-card company. But the latter has never been necessary.If you look at what the seller has been selling you'll see he/she sold many cheap items in bulk quantities for several hundred pounds in several individual transactions. The prices the oscilloscopes went for are not out of the ordinary for this seller. It helps to look a little bit further than the feedback.

author: Muxr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 08:48:12 pm
content: It is really hard to scam people as a seller on Ebay. The buyer can recoup their money for any reason. Don't really see anything that's a scam in that ad.It used to be different, but now days, ebay is probably one of the safest places to buy stuff from. It is a hassle to return it and recoup your money perhaps, but it is guaranteed that you can recoup it. If Ebay has any issues it's sellers being scammed by the buyers.I've been an Ebay user since 99. And a friend of mine makes his full time living on Ebay, so I've heard some horror stories of buyers opening items and replacing parts and then returning for full refund.

author: OldDogSleeping
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 09:00:08 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on May 30, 2015, 08:29:48 pmAre you sure the credit card company would cover you ? It may be different elsewhere, but in the UK credit card companies only have to cover transactions that are directly with the supplier. So if Paypal cover doesn't work you're stuck.

author: all_repair
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 09:23:04 pm
content: Quote from: miguelvp on May 30, 2015, 07:48:06 pmThe pro wirh high rating can get away without a negative feedback. People who bought had also bought into the high rating, and as such shall give benefits of doubts to the seller if there would be any problem.He would assume that afterall he got such a good rating, something must be wrong somewhere but likely not with the seller. And the seller shall reply on the first instant before the feedback end date. And after that, he would go totally silent and when you thought you had the paypal-ebay protection and started filing, paypal would inform you that some steps were not in accordance with paypal refund procedure but these were advised and agreed with the seller.To be fair to ebay-paypal, I did not spend another few more month to try to fight them. I might get my money back if I did, but I decided my fultime job wasn't that. So ebay-paypal is my last option now.

author: Deathwish
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 10:04:50 pm
content: I dont buy into the "it may be another Toploser " type person, if he or she was, then they would be known on most forums as such or at least well known within the electronic community by word of mouth, they would not need to sell such equipment on ebay but on forums or such privately and keep the sales costs to themselves.But as others have said, we will see later.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2015, 10:45:31 pm
content: Quote from: all_repair on May 30, 2015, 09:23:04 pmI don't understand. If you file a claim before the period for the claim expires Ebay/Paypal should process this. Never let yourself talk into not filing a claim because replacements or a refund is 'on the way'. After filing a claim there is another time period in which the issue can be resolved. Also be clear and factual. If your claim doesn't make sense then Ebay/Paypal can't process it.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 09:16:24 pm
content: Looks legit to me. If I were in the UK, I'd buy.I've been on Ebay since 2000 and bought hundreds of things, with prices up to $20,000. Also sold more than a hundred times. And got screwed two or three times as a buyer - always because I didn't follow eBay's advice 100%. And twice as a seller (because thems the odds).All things considered eBay isn't riskier than any other kind of business.Yes, there's some risk (I'd PM him and ask) but if it's a scam the guy is going to an awful lot of work to make UKP 350 (USD 600).It'd be less work to get a job. :-)Plus the risk is mostly on Ebay. If you don't get what you're promised, complain to eBay and you'll get your money back. (Don't cheat them with false claims, tho - they catch on fast and you'll be banned.)

author: BurtyB
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2015, 12:47:44 pm
content: Rumbled?Quote

author: ManateeMafia
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2015, 03:23:57 pm
content: This is another scam that eBay won't removehttp://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-3458A-Digital-Multimeter-8-1-2-Digit-/261933817434?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cfc78de5aThe original pic matched this seller's backgoundhttp://www.ebay.ca/sch/kangrong-scientific/m.html?item=141690287965&hash=item20fd66375d&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562The current picture was taken from EEVblog here ...https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/my-new-toy-hp3458a/Yes, it appears I have too much time on my hands.

author: Muxr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2015, 03:29:58 pm
content: So I am not sure what they stand to gain from it. If the item is not as described, or expected, the buyer can always recoup the cost. Perhaps just lazy and got the image that looks like his unit?Anyways I am always suspicious of auctions which list only one image. It doesn't take that long to snap 3-4 pics of the item from different angles.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 23, 2015, 03:33:24 pm
content: Quote from: ManateeMafia on June 23, 2015, 03:23:57 pmIn what way it is a scam, picture found on google?. Check seller's feedback and what he have sold in the past.

author: ManateeMafia
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2015, 03:56:47 pm
content: It is suspicious when a seller has to find a picture on the internet to use as their own pic and it is more suspicious when they change it before the lising ends. I could have taken several pictures with a smart phone in the time it took to find one online. I am probably being paranoid (more than usual), but I have seen several high dollar ebay sales (mostly Fluke calibrators) that had their listings pulled in the last couple of months shortly after the auction closed.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 23, 2015, 04:13:17 pm
content: Quote from: ManateeMafia on June 23, 2015, 03:56:47 pmC'mon, most of the listings on ebay are with pictures found with google. As itself it doesn't mean too much. If there are many factors for being suspicions of course this will add up to the pile of things.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 23, 2015, 04:17:01 pm
content: There are several times over the past year or two I've been tempted to sell some of my more expensive bits of 'stuff' on eBay because I would have got higher prices (even after business seller 10% final value fees)But I didn't bother because I don't have enough recent feedback (for those kind of items) to make me look like a legitimate seller of items worth £1000's. Doesn't mean that I would have been trying to scam anybody though, I do sell very nice stuff very cheap (disregard the recent Tenma firesale please!).I have no hesitation bidding on auctions other people may regard as 'dodgy' because I've had some very good deals - who dares wins etc. I understand PayPal buyer protection and know when I'm not exposing myself to any risk. I sense that other people don't understand though.You can get some unbelievable bargains on eBay, but not if you don't bid on them.