Former Takata Engineer Exposes Deadly Airbag Scandal - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2025, 05:28:32 pm
content: Lots of Takata airbags still driving around in 2025.Check if your car are affected.https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/2265388.htmlCitroën’s Takata crisis deepens: massive recall in Europe 2025https://newmobility.news/2025/01/22/citroens-takata-crisis-deepens-massive-recall-in-europe/Forbes: Takata Sells Out To Chinese While Millions of Consumers Still Driving With Deadly Airbagshttps://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2018/04/12/takata-sells-out-to-chinese-while-millions-of-consumers-still-driving-with-deadly-airbags/More False Data Emerges From Firm That Took Over Takatahttps://www.claimsjournal.com/news/international/2020/10/20/300048.htm

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2025, 10:31:10 pm
content: Lying sacks of shit!

author: Simmed
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2025, 12:53:31 am
content: after takada is acquired by joyson (china)joyson also suffer similar fate as takadahttps://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2022/05/27/air-bag-inflator-oem-3-automakers-accused-of-covering-up-defect-danger-to-vehicle-occupants-in-class-suit/"joyson safety" has their own facility in USA, and they also explodeQuoteQuotethey argue that ammonium nitrate based to be become unacceptable for usageis there a next level chemical that is cheap ?Quotei think this is just like boeingthey have too many ceo and managersno longer engineering centricand all we see on news is just fake justice

author: Siwastaja
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2025, 07:12:40 pm
content: It is interesting how everybody waited for 11 years after discovery before starting recalling. It is of course easier to do major recall campaigns on vehicles when 95% of them are not on the roads anymore. It tells a lot about human nature that every single company does basically the same. Well, it's unsurprising, it's survival instinct. No company is going to recall something when it is so costly it would drive the company to bankruptcy. They rather have tens of people die. And, the society around us - governments, we customers - seem to accept this: no one gives a shit, there are no consequences for the lives lost because of the unwillingness to recall a knowingly unsafe and illegal product.And probably it is the right solution, "human life" is valued much more in ceremonial speeches than in real life. We rather have cars and companies producing them around us, than have them sacrificed when they make large-scale mistakes. We are much more demanding with rectifying small-scale mistakes. That is not hypocritical - it's realism, small-scale issues are cheaper to fix so it makes sense to fix them. Besides, if we didn't give the signal that (smaller) issues need to be fixed, companies would start cutting corners more and more in every imaginable way.But what I find funny in all of this, why do anything now? It is like we are all in total agreement that we don't want total recall of every affected car because that is too costly, we rather have people die. We have already sacrificed tens of lives. Yet, we are reluctant toadmit that we operate this way. So we organize a nominal (ineffective) recall campaign at least 11 years too late, so that we can all say "hey, we did the right thing". This is what makes human beings funny. An ideal creature with perfectly logically operating brain would initially do the same, sacrifice some of the herd, but they would not waste significant amount of time and resources in explaining that away.Same pattern repeats all the time. For example, sesame seed scandal (at least here, probably all over Europe?) some two three years ago pops to mind. Basically the whole industry had been contaminated with some disallowed preservative (I don't know if itreallywas any dangerous, but it's unimportant for the story; it was nevertheless illegal in EU due to health concerns). I remember that one small-ish company recalled their stuff first; it appeared as if they had some dodgy batch. Then for 6 months absolutely nothing happened, but after that when "best before end" dates were approaching suddenlyallcompanies recalled all sesame seed containing stuff. All of which were already eaten by the consumers of course. And the very same companies are very fast and efficient to do recalls normally, in cases where only a single batch has been contaminated. But when it's their whole supply chain, they play a dirty trick like this. And I was probably the only one who paid any attention to what happened. No one gave a shit again.

author: Poroit
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2025, 07:49:06 am
content: How bloody frustrating for a young engineer.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2025, 08:23:03 am
content: Again?Is it the third one, or the same old scandal being dragged on until the end of times?Quote from: Siwastaja on February 25, 2025, 07:12:40 pmMy skoda of 2014 vintage had the airbag replaced two years ago, and i was lucky because there was a great shortage of parts.AFAIK the recall is still in progress as airbags become available.Why do anything now? at almost 200k kilometers, i plan to keep it for another 200k, replace the engine if necessary (like i'm going to buy some new ad serving piece of shit car)Unless something major happens like diesel completely disappearing from italy, of course.I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people in a simillar situation.Also, i'm pretty sure they are mandated to do it