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author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 09:25:52 pm
content: I was surfing eBay today and came across this.http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Audiophile-grade-Shielded-240-volt-Mains-IEC-lead-for-quality-A-V-pure-power-/221323385657I wonder if it will make my printer produce better results.....Regards

author: Fsck
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 09:28:50 pm
content: definitely not the most expensive power cable I've seen

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 09:31:38 pm
content: Same, not the most expensive, but I will allow it "gaudiest".Edit - it looks much less "gaudy" and more "cheap" in the lower pictures."Drain wire suppresses any conducted interference to mains earth connection" - so that's what they're calling the earth wire?"Powdered iron torroid absorbs any interference at equipment entry point" - $143 doesn't buy spell check, apparently, or mains inlet filters..."More accurate transients" - *snort*Oh dear.

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 09:39:30 pm
content: I'm not a fan of government intervention in the affairs of a citizen, but compulsory sterilization should be applied to anyone daft enough to buy one.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 09:57:00 pm
content: Quote from: c4757p on November 29, 2013, 09:31:38 pmPowdered iron instead of ferrites says everything

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 09:57:33 pm
content: I wonder how much it costs to buy the other mile of wire back to the transformer on the pole?

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 10:00:37 pm
content: The number $143 exists surprisingly many times on his feedback page. People have actually bought this turd...

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 10:11:38 pm
content: I flagged the listing. Not because of what he was selling, but that it said to contact him about having custom lengths made.That falls under the prohibition of providing a way to avoid Ebay fees.

author: fluxcapacitor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 10:15:22 pm
content: That cable is made by a company called boolean engineering :http://www.booleanengineering.com/+http://www.thoroughbredaudio.com/Have a look at another of their products the `Sequenced power interface` its quite a good read .............http://www.thoroughbredaudio.com/EDIT: SPI240AU6 requires Australian IEC leadBest Performance when usedwith our Shielded IEC Leads

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 11:31:53 pm
content: When you see this term -Audiophile gradeRun - run away from whatever it's being used to describe as fast as you can.

author: Strada916
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 11:35:45 pm
content: how people fall for these money thieves.

author: Fsck
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 11:38:49 pm
content: Capacitors with silk fiber:http://www.elna-america.com/tech_audio_series.php

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2013, 11:49:11 pm
content: Quote from: Fsck on November 29, 2013, 11:38:49 pmHere's a quote from that site -Quote

author: ConKbot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2013, 09:10:00 am
content: Quote from: fluxcapacitor on November 29, 2013, 10:15:22 pmIt has merit, both the timed on/off as they stated of making sure other equipment is on before you turn amps on. Or for spacing out the turn on of multiple large amps made with big toroids with big turn-on surges. Also, tripp-lite ISOBAR surge protectors have always had power filter on each pair of outletshttp://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtSeriesID=825&txtModelID=113Take a few real benefits/principals and make a product, throw in some buzz words on the web page and sell a power strip for $500/pop, and if anyone's an audiophool, its not him. I dont see any blatantly false claims on his page, possibly misleading if youre not familiar with subject, but if you buy a $500 item without educating yourself first...The power cord page is full of wank, but he has a weasel word in there and is just repeating someone else's claims about similar cables. But if youre buying a $500 power strip, a $150 power cord is probably right up your alleyI see a decent business plan to sell stuff to a bunch of morons with too much free cash.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2013, 09:23:15 am
content: Quote from: xrunner on November 29, 2013, 11:49:11 pmActually it's not *that* dumb a statement. There are a zillion types of capacitor, all different in how closely they approach an ideal capacitor, and their flaws. Inductance and ESR. Dielectric absorption (or whatever the name is for that drift-back characteristic hated by designers of sample and hold circuits), microphony, resonance and leakage... This is why we have silver-mica and vacuum-vane capacitors.Reading that article, I'd be prepared to consider that maybe the mechanical properties of the paper film in electrolytics *might* have some influence on the bandpass flatness characteristics of the caps. But I'd want to see some graphs of real measurements. If no such graphs, it's bullshit.I wonder how well an audio amp made using only big vacuum-vane capacitors would sell? Valves and big glass vacuum capacitors.... If nothing else it would look gorgeous.Also the braid shielded mains cord - there are situations where you'd want to use such a thing. And the 'drain' wire is the connection of the shield braid to the earth pin at the supply end (not both ends). But for consumer audio? Plugged into typical wall sockets? And tiny 'powdered iron' toroid? Ha ha ha!Still, years ago I used to make a living writing software for gambling machines. I've always thought that since some people are incurable idiots, there's nothing wrong with profiting from their stupidity.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2013, 09:43:58 am
content: That looks like SY cable. Use it in the workshop for connecting mobile equipment.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2013, 10:32:59 am
content: You can get similar shielded IEC cables from Chinese OEM for about 1/100th the price...

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2013, 10:50:42 am
content: LOL Oh god, that is just too rick.Hey look I have six or 7 power cables here, I bet they are audiophile quality too since they are shielded! I'll sell them to you guys for only $80 each! What a steal!

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 30, 2013, 11:37:30 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on November 30, 2013, 09:23:15 amYes but which buildings would you locate the 10000uF smoothing caps in?

author: Fsck
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2013, 03:51:21 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on November 30, 2013, 09:23:15 amtheir "theory" is mechanical:<<At Elna, we have moved forward with development activities based on the perspective that this "softness" of silk can mitigate vibrational energy, which is generated from the electrodes in the capacitor. Also, this silk softness will mitigate the vibrational energy of the music propagating through the air and striking the capacitor. Ultimately, the softness will mitigate the mechanical vibrational energy that comes from transformers or rotating systems within the final product.>>

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2013, 02:09:12 am
content: Quote from: Pippy on November 30, 2013, 11:37:30 amThat football stadium, over there.I didn't saw it would not look awesome as well as gorgeous. Perhaps I should have been more explicit when I said 'big'.You've got to admit, they're pretty. This one is 400pF, up to 40KV.

author: staxquad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2013, 04:21:43 am
content: Quote from: KJDS on November 29, 2013, 09:39:30 pm$143 is a small price to pay for happiness (they all seem to be, but the earlier purchasers are even more, they only paid $97)"Fabulous! If you're serious about your hi-fi, buy! Improved my Arcam A10!"I looked it up, an Arcam Alpha 10 is an integrated amp with a DAVE module. I wonder if DAVE knows his module was improved by the shielded cable?

author: calexanian
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2013, 07:20:51 am
content: Wow... What next. Hand braided copper in the conductors??

author: andtfoot
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 01, 2013, 09:07:53 am
content: Quote from: calexanian on December 01, 2013, 07:20:51 amClose enough...http://www.lessloss.com/dfpc-series-p-213.html#refNow with double the live conductor compared to the neutral, and half the ground... because that gives you, "...more natural clarity; immediate control of lower bass frequencies; and middle frequencies become more liquid, smooth and clear."

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2013, 04:22:35 pm
content: For the REAL bullshit, look here:http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.htmlThis is up there with the bag of magic rocks that other scam artist is selling.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2013, 08:19:48 pm
content: Quote from: John Coloccia on December 01, 2013, 04:22:35 pmGood grief that's utter bullshit!Check out their loudspeakers. If you have$56,000laying around you can order a pair.

author: fluxcapacitor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 12:53:32 am
content: photonic sponge "soaking up noise" ......z z z ZZZ

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 01:22:35 am
content: Here is a tip for audophiles.This modification eliminates ALL noise in a system.Open your amplifier , locate the input transformer. Take a solid copper wire about 4 mm diameter.Make one winding around the magnet core using that wire and solder both ends together.Power up and you will be amazed about how quit your system now is.There may be an initial one-time 'popping' sound , that is your system adapting to the installed noise cancellation loop. All the accumulated noise producing energy discharges in this silencing loop

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 01:28:34 am
content: Gawd there is so much B.S. on that site. They must have hired a pro to sit down and just write technical bullshit for each "product" until they figure the reader would be so baffled by it they would cough up the bucks for whatever they sell.The best items are always the speaker cords. It's like they have to be so perfect wherever the human eye can see them, but once connected to the equipment, do you think the same type of wiring keeps going up to the speaker itself? Oh I don't think so. So I guess the sound is ruined at that point?Idiots.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 01:37:01 am
content: Quote from: John Coloccia on December 01, 2013, 04:22:35 pmoh god it hurts my head to read that bullshit, to think some people are this denseI wish I had some transparent cable laying around to cash in on these morons.

author: calexanian
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 02:06:43 am
content: Oooh. I want that job. Technical Bullshit Editor! Oh wait......

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 07:17:36 am
content: Makes me want to do some arc welding while they're listening to music.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 07:29:51 am
content: Quote from: John Coloccia on December 01, 2013, 04:22:35 pmPresented in Monster-cable style technobabble...

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 10:41:08 am
content: And you can check these out too:https://www.youtube.com/user/AVequipmentReviews/videosand if you scroll down you'll find a review of LessLoss power cables:I couldn't watch all 4 videos.Now if you'll excuse me, I have a bunch of capacitors and op-amps that I need to break in before noon.

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 12:00:06 pm
content: And BTW, before anyone says that the reason I can't appreciate high end power cables and black bodies is because my listening chamber isn't setup properly, or that my ears aren't precise enough, let me explain my setup:My ears are of the finest quality. They have been tested in 3 different countries and my frequency response is flat to .1dB per hectare. I come from a long line hyper-auds. When they gave me my last hearing test, they didn't even bother asking me which ear I could hear the tone in. In fact, they didn't even play a tone. They just THOUGHT about playing a tone, and I would tell them which hand they were thinking of pushing the button with. Yes, I'M THAT GOOD.My house is built on 1000ft of solid rock. I had it imported from Belgium....Antwerp, actually. All of the diamonds in Antwerp imprint their photonic "hardness" on the rock. Before pouring the foundation, the rock was fine tuned by carefully tapping with a hammer, and then listening to the sub-aural resonances. Then the rock was painted with carbon black to absorb stray photons and provide shielding.The house itself is built out of kevlar impregnated acoustic foam. I don't mean just lined with foam. It's actually built out of acoustic foam....the beams, the stairs, the toilet seats...even the septic tank...all foam. The only compromise I had to make is the fireplace. That, and the chimney, had to be made out of brick to pass code. To minimize the impact on the rest of the house, I elected to build the fireplace off site. It's 200ft away from the house built on a Newport optical bench. It's further isolated by floating the bench on pneumatic isolation mounts sitting on a slab of rubber. Sure, it's a little inconvenient to have a detached fireplace, but I feel it's worth it.My amplifier is built from the finest components known to man. The chassis is made out of honeycomb titanium. It sits in a custom enclosure made out petrified walnut (this is the best...trust me, I know). Even the resistors are made from gold. I don't mean they have gold in them. They're actual pieces of gold that have been tuned to get the perfect resistance. The capacitors are hand made from the finest silk. The entire design has been scaled so that every component value is a prime number. This limits the cross talk between components.My cables are hand made from individual strands of pure silver. Each strand is individually polished to a high luster, and is then wrapped by hand to make the basic wire. Every cable has 373 individual strands...again, a prime number of strands to prevent crosstalk. The wire is then covered in carbon nanoparticles to remove any stray fields that were generated from the polishing process. The wire is then put in a drying oven for 200 hours to bake out any remaining moisture. The wire is then gold plated and insulated with 13mm of ceramic. The cables are completely vibration isolated. They sit on a block of platinum, which sits on a miniature air table, which sits on another block of platinum.The listening chamber has been carefully tuned to capture all stray audio signal, while at the same time expanding the spatial imaging and textural undertones. All of my CDs are stored offsite (near the fireplace, actually) to prevent any possible nano-signal cross contamination between tracks. The CDs themselves are stored in custom cases made out of lead and coated with special blackbody shielding film. I feel that storing them in plastic...or even gold....imparts a hardness to the recording that the artist didn't intend. The entire CD vault is floating on a cushion of helium.I hope that puts to rest any doubts you may have about my qualifications.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 12:30:08 pm
content: Quote from: John Coloccia on December 02, 2013, 12:00:06 pmEveryone knows that burlwood is much better. Ask my father if you don't believe me, he's a master carpenter.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2013, 02:55:03 pm
content: Quote from: John Coloccia on December 02, 2013, 10:41:08 amOh for crying out loud.Dude in the video - you are hopelessly deluded. After all that trouble don't you realize the cat is fucking up the whole sound pattern in the room. You just wasted untold gazillions of bucks for nothing.

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 06:58:57 am
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 02, 2013, 02:55:03 pmYeah man, the cat is absorbing the high frequencies, and its hair distorts the bass far too much, you can tell because it sounds really had and closed.

author: mamalala
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 01:47:16 pm
content: Quote from: peter.mitchell on December 03, 2013, 06:58:57 amWell, one only needs to set up the cat properly. Having some cats myself, i can tell you that they are well capable of doing low frequencies as well as really high frequencies.Greetings,Chris

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 02:02:25 pm
content: Quote from: peter.mitchell on December 03, 2013, 06:58:57 amYou can fix that by buying our new audiophoolery cat shampoo

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 02:04:36 pm
content: This is the video where he actually talks about how they sound. It sounds like a broken recording of a list of buzzwords.Hey, there's this technical word I heard once! Watch it fart out of my mouth! Hey, here's another!Noise floor!Nanoparticle!

author: Excavatoree
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 06:09:07 pm
content: Quote from: c4757p on December 03, 2013, 02:04:36 pm"Millimeter two?" I'm guessing he means millimeter squared. (mm2. usually called "square millimeters.")I couldn't listen long after hearing that.EDIT: 12 square millimeter cables for a 20A rated outlet? (That's between 8 and 6 AWG) My Dad's arc welder uses that size cable.

author: N2IXK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 08:16:57 pm
content: For true audiophool wankery, you need to repackage your filter capacitors in exotic hardwood cases, with pure beeswax potting, though...http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/elna1_en.phpQuote from: madires on December 02, 2013, 12:30:08 pm

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 08:27:49 pm
content: What the hell is going on behind that speaker? It looks like a woodworkers clamp on some small piece of equipment?Dude get a life! You are making up bullshit to make yourself feel good about blowing untold amounts of money on quackery. Show me scientific measurements of the sound differenceat the speaker inputwith and without expensive A/C power cables and I'll believe at least part of your B.S. Oh I know - you don't have any objective evidence. Stupid man.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 08:33:16 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 03, 2013, 08:27:49 pmYeah I'd like to hook a scope up to these systems and see peoples faces when there is no difference between the signals. I'd also love to hear the BS they make up to try and justify it still afterwards.

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 09:45:47 pm
content: Quote from: XOIIO on December 03, 2013, 08:33:16 pmLike I'd let a scope anywhere near my setup. Just the outgassing from the cheap insulation on the probes would coat the entire system, permanently unsettling my noise floor and again making the entire system sound closed....or open....or something.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 09:50:21 pm
content: Quote from: XOIIO on December 03, 2013, 08:33:16 pmI imagine it'd sound rather like the video.

author: Zbig
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2013, 09:52:01 pm
content: Quote from: XOIIO on December 03, 2013, 08:33:16 pmYou'd achieve nothing. You'd only hear something among the lines of "prove me I cannot hear something your oscilloscope doesn't show". They're too deluded, arrogant and ignorant for the simple scientific facts to get in the way of their beliefs. They think that if they ignore the laws of physics, they somehow no longer apply to them.EDIT:There are guys who work with complex computer systems for a living who think that as soon as you pass a digitized audio signal through a digital interconnect, it somehow becomes lossy. The same guys who shuffle gigabytes of data back and forth without a single bit flip.

author: calexanian
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 05:29:36 am
content: Oh the audiophile. A unique breed... So much fun..... To make fun of.... It has a deadly side though. Look up a Mr. Charlie Kittleson. He was a genuine nut case. I say it in jest and in fact. He was a friend of mine and he ran Vacuum Tube Valley magazine and sold product to the craziest audiophiles cause he could talk their bullshit lingo. He would get calls 24/7/365 from just the craziest neurotic people and their insane requests. It was so bad that he actually developed a psychological condition and fell into a depression because he only really associated with other audiophiles. In the end his mental illness took over and our last few conversations revolved around the fact that he had to deal with those people to make a living and he just could not deal with them anymore. He shot himself over it. I appreciate good engineering in audio, but when it crosses over into subjective bullshit I just cant listen to it anymore.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 12:59:44 pm
content: The thing is, what they want to reproduce in a listening room isn't even a "pure" signal, like some sort of original pure sine wave. For example it may be a band that was recorded that is playing old instruments slightly out of tune, in a noisy environment, even using amps that put out the sound from amp speakers which have no audiophile" quality cords or other bullshit. Heck the speakersoutputtingthe sound may even be damaged and old. In other words the sound being recorded is a dirty conglomeration of signals to begin with.If you don't exactly reproduce that, who the fuck is going to notice or care? If they want to spend money on a hobby like that, that wastes money on snake oil products, I guess they can knock themselves out, but I'd prefer to spend money on hobbies that produce tangible results.

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 07:52:12 pm
content: Quote from: XOIIO on December 03, 2013, 08:33:16 pmAn audiophile is immune to such things. They would simply claim they've invested more money in their equipment than your scope was worth.

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 08:56:51 pm
content: Yeah, but ya gotta admit, he does have a nice scarf....

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 09:07:45 pm
content: Quote from: mtdoc on December 04, 2013, 08:56:51 pmIt's rather like the cyanide pills that spies supposedly carried - he wears that so he has a noose handy for when he reaches bullshit overload and finally goes insane. Wouldn't want to use the power cords - they're too expensive to risk damage!

author: calexanian
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 10:26:01 pm
content: Quote from: Stonent on December 04, 2013, 07:52:12 pmI have had conversations with Laurie Fincham the president of engineering at THX about how crazy these people really are. All bullshit. Yes, I can take an old transformer, some cheap ON semiconductor transistors (I like that new MJE1503* series of drivers, and the new big power ones, so easy to drive) a handful of cheap passives, some wire, a veroboard, and some heatsinks, and get every bit as good of numbers as your $10,000 monoblock amp.

author: BBQ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:05:06 pm
content: How about the CD sound improver? O0http://www.audiodesksysteme.de/index.php?kat=10_17_6

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:07:02 pm
content: And for only $7000, you can have a plastic power strip.It keep the soundstage from collapsing and adds octaves to the speakers, plus it rounds your harmonic spread and integrates the harmonies.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:17:52 pm
content: Quote from: John Coloccia on December 04, 2013, 11:07:02 pmOh my gawd. His bullshit doesn't end.So what if that power strip is the best one ever made? Your wall is full of the same old romex as any other place. That last few feet of $7000 wire ain't gonna make a shit a bit of difference.Oh keep the videos coming folks - it's at least cheap entertainment.

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:18:28 pm
content: Or even better, how about these "chips"? They are "pieces of synthetic material that can be fixed to audio components and cables", which I think is a fancy way of saying they're plastic stickers.http://kempelektroniks.com/Accessoires/WA-Quantum-Chips-(1).aspx

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:21:38 pm
content: I wonder whether this twat is lying to himself, or to us. "It felt like I added an extra octave"...

author: Fsck
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:25:42 pm
content: Quote from: John Coloccia on December 04, 2013, 11:18:28 pmA full refund will be granted only if the Chips are returned without any damage. In particular, the sheet at the back should be in place. The Chips can be given a first try by placing them on a component with the back sheet still in place.that made me laugh.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:30:23 pm
content: Oh I got your acrylic beat here. How about aGranitepower distributor!This guy is even more delusional than the other dumbass - believe it or not. Listen to the crap flow from his lips.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:30:45 pm
content: QuoteAn audio grade fuse.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:32:52 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 04, 2013, 11:30:23 pmIt took him until 0:45 to explain what a power stripis- I wouldn't call that crapflowingfrom his lips, more like glooping out like somewhat sticky diarrhea...

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:40:09 pm
content: Well guys and gals there's money to be made here and plenty of it to go around. Where does it end? Apparently you can dream up any imaginary audiophile piece of magic bullshit and the suckers will hand you literally thousands of bucks for it - if ... if ... you can find a bullshitter to do the videos.Why stop at just the equipment. I'd go full bore and start designing audiophile houses. And, I'd charge plenty of bucks for one. I mean, the walls shall be insulated with nano particles and the wiring will be gold plated vibration resistant superconductors.

author: Fsck
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:44:09 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 04, 2013, 11:40:09 pmin theory, you could make a house with a bunch of anechoic chambers as audiophile rooms.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:53:42 pm
content: Quote from: Fsck on December 04, 2013, 11:44:09 pmExactly! But you got to keep going. Take it farther. What are you going to make the sound absorbers out of? Make it some sort of exotic material (with nanoparticles too). You have to take the magic all the way to make it sell for more money.

author: Fsck
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:55:32 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 04, 2013, 11:53:42 pmthough, I actually want an anechoic chamber in my dream house.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2013, 11:58:36 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 04, 2013, 11:53:42 pmThat granite power strip could contain a $5 plastic strip from Walmart with the pretty housing slapped on top, as long as you couldn't tell by looking at the outside. If you demonstrate that to themafterthey try it out, these nincompoops would just make something up about how the housing itself affects the resonance of the vibration dampening and rounds the harmonics by filtering the noise and purifying the quality.Noise floor!

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 12:00:15 am
content: Quote from: Fsck on December 04, 2013, 11:55:32 pmSure, that's something you can make objective measurements on ...Oh shit. That won't fly for audiophiles. It has to be magic. No measurements allowed.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 12:01:04 am
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 05, 2013, 12:00:15 amStick a small wooden square off-center on one wall and say that tunes it. Problem solved!

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 12:03:46 am
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 04, 2013, 11:53:42 pmWell, if you go back a couple of pages, you'll see that I made my house out of kevlar impregnated acoustic foam. The carbon nano-particles go on the cables, not the house.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 12:05:12 am
content: Quote from: c4757p on December 05, 2013, 12:01:04 amHmmm. Not bad c4757p. I'd make it out of some exotic African wood though.With nanoparticles <-- nearly forgot!

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 12:17:03 am
content: No no, you're spoiling the wood now! Wires need nanoparticles added to balance out the impurities, but leaving wood pure allows you to hear the natural, round harmonics of the material.* Though it should probably be attached to the wall with proper hide glue, you wouldn't want the chemicals in an artificial adhesive to restrict the sound stage. Make it from Grenadilla, this is used in clarinets to help focus the resonance and would do quite nicely in a home to tune an acoustic listening chamber.*Audiophools don't care that this is technically adding distortion, they think everything has its own characteristic sound.I just projectile vomited after writing this. I should probably stop before the diarrhea, severe pain and sudden death come.

author: N2IXK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 01:08:44 am
content: My favorite "One Stop Shop" for audiophoolery has to be Machina Dynamica:http://www.machinadynamica.com/Bags of rocks that "absorb negative acoustics", little copper foil slivers to stick on your windows, "Dark Matter" CD varnish, exotic wood vibration isolators, etc.A close runner-up:http://www.altmann.haan.de/tubeolator/default.htm

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 01:13:02 am
content: Quote from: N2IXK on December 05, 2013, 01:08:44 amOh dear.Please tell me that's a joke site. It's a joke website right? Please say yes.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 01:14:48 am
content: We've discussed that one a few times recently and haven't been able to agree. I think it's a joke that continued and went a bit too far.

author: Alex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 02:58:16 am
content: If/when the field of bio-prosthetics has advanced enough so we can reliably make body parts to order, someone get in touch to start a company. We will be making Hi-Fi ears to eliminate the last bottleneck in Hi-Fi audio systems. We will have price ranges depending on the noise floor and conductive plating to minimise the voltage induced on blood cells by external alternating magnetic fields. I can see us in FTSE 100 already.

author: ConKbot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 05:03:41 am
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 04, 2013, 11:30:23 pm"each outlet has a 'home run'" but the video clip of the innards clearly shows them daisy chained

author: Alex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 05:15:25 am
content: Quote from: ConKbot on December 05, 2013, 05:03:41 amI still cannot make out if its a bus bar or star. Partly because of the clearly intentionally obscured wiring and partly because my brain refuses to think about this.EDIT: It's both. Black thick cables are bus, white are star.

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 12:57:22 pm
content: Why are there so many wires? I can't figure out what they're for. Looks like maybe ground is daisy chained, neutral and hot are are in parallel....and then what's all the other wires doing? Decoration? Maybe they're trying to ground the marble?

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2013, 01:57:33 pm
content: Oh for Pete's sake. How much current does this "audiophile" equipment pull? I mean it would make better sense to buy those $7 granite power strips for your hair dryer or air compressor.

author: andtfoot
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 06, 2013, 05:34:30 am
content: Quote from: xrunner on December 05, 2013, 01:57:33 pmJust think how 'smooth', 'warm' and 'natural' your hair will become. No more 'coldness' and 'harshness' to it any more...