Electronics componants and hoarding - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: theleakydiode
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 05:20:33 pm
content: How do you decide what to keep and what not to keep? Over the years I've amassed several boxes of electronic components that I've either salvaged or purchased, but to be honest its just taking up valuable space in my small house. When I sort through components I just end up seeing the potential in everything and keeping it. Obviously I don't keep broken/blown items but still its too much."Oh that transformer might be useful, that old SMPS capacitor tests fine so I'll hold onto it, that old inductor is a good size for a buck converter".How do your electronic component clear-outs go? I'm sure we've all been there at one point, I'm in the middle of sorting stuff now but not really making any progress.

author: German_EE
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 06:19:13 pm
content: I went through a clearout exercise a couple of years ago, two years since I came to Germany. Anything that hadn't been touched since I arrived here was either sold, given away or trashed.Two years sitting on a shelf doing nothing sounds about right.

author: georges80
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 06:34:09 pm
content: I order from Digikey/Mouser/Arrow/Avnet (at least one of them) weekly. So, I have a file that I put stuff onto for each vendor order when I think of a neat new thing to try out or build. So, stockpiling old components is not essential since within a week or so I can order something that I need.The issue with hoarding (as the pile gets bigger) is trying to find that gem in the pile of junk. Not worth wasting time cataloging the gems and easier to just order as needed. Time is reasonably precious.Even then I still end up with boxes of 'neat' stuff and that requires more discipline than I often have to toss out. So, when I reach the point of frustration with the boxes of 'neat' stuff I try to ride the wave and toss out as much as possible without looking at each component bag.Maybe I should just offer up a box every so often in the trade/sell sub-forum and give them away to someone that is a compulsive hoardercheers,george.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 06:39:38 pm
content: While renovating a Solarton 7075, I initially thought an unobtanium IC was faulty. It turned out is was a 7407 (no middle letters) driving that IC was faulty. Fortunately I had one in my store cupboard, from when I designed my first 6800 computer in 1977I bought a Power Designs 2020B precision PSU, missing two front panel knobs. I had a couple that I bought in ~1980https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/msg1839581/#msg1839581BTW, those PSUs arejust right, and definitely a keeperI suppose I ought to add, YMMV

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 07:43:50 pm
content: Quote from: theleakydiode on December 09, 2018, 05:20:33 pmJust throw out what you have not used for years. The biggest problem with hoarding stuff is that you forget what you have and end up buying new anyway.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 07:47:29 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 09, 2018, 07:43:50 pmNope the worst is whenyou know you have the part. And then spend hours searching that 10 cent part instead of just buying it. Or even worse. You spend hours searching, don't find it, buy new. And then accidentally find it a few days later.

author: sokoloff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 07:55:58 pm
content: Can confirm. I have a bit of hoarding tendency naturally, but it really expresses itself with engineering and electronics parts...

author: theleakydiode
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 07:59:21 pm
content: Quote from: German_EE on December 09, 2018, 06:19:13 pmHow do you find people to sell/give stuff to locally? Even on local seller/freecycle groups people don't seem to want anything other than working appliances. You go to the local recycling center and the place is filled to the brim with unwanted modern looking appliances. Can't find any local maker places either in this small town.Hate to be nosy and its non of my business but before moving to Germany were you living someplace where electronic components were hard to come by?Quote from: georges80 on December 09, 2018, 06:34:09 pmThat's a good point, the bigger the hoard gets the more time it takes to find what you actually want. I'm sure hoarding is a form of delayed decision making, when I come across something I deem useful I would think to myself "hmm I'll take this home and see if I can find a use for it". I've got better in recent years and don't take things home anymore, at one point family used to drop off their unwanted electrical items here for me to part out.How does the trade subforum work here, do you have to pay anything and do you have to give people your real contact info? Also around my area its real hard to even give stuff away for free these days.Quote from: tggzzz on December 09, 2018, 06:39:38 pmArgh that's the other side to the coin! If I throw something out then I'll probably come to need it down the line. What percentage of your "just in case" pile actually comes in useful?Quote from: nctnico on December 09, 2018, 07:43:50 pmThis sounds like my dad, he's a mechanical hoarder and the garage is full to the brim with old vehicle parts and other DIY randoms. But when he needs a part he'll go right to the local hardware store and buy new than actually look for one in the garage.But with my electronic hoarding I think I've become blind to my own problems, my boxes of parts aren't that messy but it involves unstacking the pile of boxes.

author: theleakydiode
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 08:06:19 pm
content: Quote from: sokoloff on December 09, 2018, 07:55:58 pmHaving watched a few of those hoarding shows it seems a lot of them are engineering types too, or crafty women saving stuff for future grandkids.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 08:10:42 pm
content: There is a trade off between desire to store things "just in case" and the space they take. I try to store things in a more compact way, which is possible less appropriate for the components.For example below is my entire collection of ICs. They are stored in plastic locking bags with original DigiKey labels inside. This is a very compact way of storing them, but plastic bags may potentially have issues with static. But I'd rather store things in a more compacts way and risk them being damaged, than throw them away and know for sure that I can't retrieve them back if needed.I have similar storage bin for transistors/diodes, resistors, capacitors.But I am getting rid or not acquiring in a first place through hole components. They do take up space, and I really never use them anymore.And having things stored definitely helped me from time to time, so I would not get rid of everything, just for the sake of cleanliness.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 08:19:19 pm
content: I got to the point it was easier to buy something than find it in my parts stock. I just sold it all in lots on ebay then. Now I have a few tubs of stuff. I don't even keep it too organised now. There's no point. Only thing I get through epic quantities of is resistors as I just sweep them into a box when I'm done. When that box is full it'll go on ebay and I will buy more. It's not worth it any more.One thing I don't do now is go "oh those are cheap, I'll buy a hundred of them" and never use them. I had about 10,000 crappy quality electrolytic capacitors for example. I have about 100 now, all good brands. And I'll probably never use them all.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 08:24:45 pm
content: With easy availability and next day shipping, there's little reason to hoard so much. I've thrown out boxes of stuff. I keep SMT resistor kits from eBay on hand, some DIP logic for my vintage computers. That fits into one 8 drawer cabinet.The problem is the vacuum tube stuff naturally takes up a lot of room but doesn't represent a lot of components.Tools and consumables go into a big toolbox though.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 09:25:54 pm
content: Quote from: theleakydiode on December 09, 2018, 07:59:21 pmSufficientAnd that's the only answer you are going to get.The key is to have a relatively small volume, and to be able to find what you have. The latter can be achieved by realising that any filing system defines where things aren't, not where they are.By that I mean that if I have a right resistor, it will be in one of the small subset of drawers/bags marked "resistor", not in one marked "old TTL".Problem areas are that I might forget I have a single purpose tool because it is buried in a box (e.g. cork borers), or I might thrown out rubbish because I don't realise people will pay stupid prices for it (e.g. Mullard mustard capacitors).Oh, alright. I keep things with sentimental value, and I junk things that I don't like or which can be easily replaced.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 09:48:58 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on December 09, 2018, 09:25:54 pmThat's thefirstcrap I sold. Also anything that wasn't worth anything that had gold bits went in the "gold recovery" auction which made quite a bit of money.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 09:54:30 pm
content: its often because you don't store things efficiently. Imagine if pages in a book had to be stacked like loose leaf in a binder, you would be called a hoarder for owning even the smallest of libraries.My #1 tip for through hole chips is to get carbon foam, cut it into trays that fit into a thin organizer with lots of dividers, then insert the chips into the foam. If you use good foam it won't disintirgate and it will protect the chips somewhat.It gets more complicated with ESD but for thin things like SMD or through hole components, you can put them inside of plastic organizers like baseball cards that are modified to be smaller with thermal fusion of plastic.I have stuff sorted in such a way that I need tweezers to get the right part but its fine because it saves ass loads of space.With the right organizational strategies I was able to reduce my stockpile size by like 75% then reuse the old containers to properly store wire etc or other shit that was improperly stored.That picture in this thread with all the components stored in ziplocks in a tupperware is extremely inefficient for instance. I used to do that and I only do that now for my smallest parts (which actually take up the most room) that I am most paranoid about storing (i.e. 30$ DDS systems and shit). That will be stored properly in due time in custom chip cabinets/drawer system.I do feel the pain with larger transformers, heat sinks, etc. I think you could use divider boxes for alot of it. You actually need to plan that out, make measurements and look through storage catalogs to find the correct solutions here. Or get proficient at quickly making custom drawers/boxes.Also it takes 5 minutes to make a inventory list in notepad by category, how could you forget what you have unless you are mega lazy. =]]but again good luck doing that with anything magentic... heat sinks are cool enough that I renember what I have usually but recycled transformers (other then mains 60Hz) are a nightmare, and so are salvaged inductors. I think many people on this forum feel inductor salvage pain.I put the smaller stuff like EMI/common mode choke into organizer boxes and just lay em out no more then 2 layers high.Larger transformers I just throw into a bin though. things from switching power supplies are generally a fucking nusience.

author: chris_leyson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 10:05:33 pm
content: I think I reached a point about 20 years ago where I just couldn't deal with the collected crap and clutter anymore and out it went into a medium sized skip, probably 8 cubic yards. It's funny, I woke up the next day only to find it was half empty, anything with any reasonable metal content had disappeared.Psychologists would have a field day, why do you need all of that crap anyway, you don't actually build or do anything with it do you ! If you don't need it don't buy it in the first place. Brutal but true. Keep stuff that is unobtainable because somebody might need it one day and now you're an antiques dealer.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 10:11:23 pm
content: its because you don't have time and energy to design useful or interesting projects with stuff that you store because it looks cool (magnetics for me).Also another part of it is as you progress into the hobby you learn about what quality is and you realize alot of stuff you pull out of cheaper equipment or consumer stuff, is difficult to design in if you have high manufacturing standards or is simply older technology thats not sexy anymore.another part of it I think is that you forget what you have or you get it faster then you can organize it then you get a confusing sprawl that causes subconscious anxiety to be around.I had this in my basement, tons of containers filled with random shit, like a box with a few screws, a boiler part, some electrical crap, a screw driver and saw dust in it. When I sorted it all out by category I kind of got an idea of what I can do with all this stuff and it actually stored much easier.Another thing is bags. I try not to keep bags like the ones that came with screws or any kind of store packaging in anything I buy unless its something really weird (like a replacement sink). It stores weird and is difficult to clean and it makes unpleasant noises when you move it.. don't rely on the manufacturer to figure out a good storage solution for your home.I kinda go for this rule;if I feel that I need to have a 'good day', good sleep, good mood, 'stars aligned' to get the energy to clean the storage area or to retrieve a component, its done wrong.if its a easy process that I can do even when I am sleep deprived, irritated and tired, that means the storage is implemented properly.I swear the stupidest shit has prevented me from starting projects before, like I don't want to deal with a dusty or broken container because it might spill out, or I need to get a stool to reach something, or I need to totally remove everything from a storage box to access something I want then i need to reload it then I need to climb up with it on a shelf. Or I remember that I will need to wash my hands after i reach 'into that pile of shit'. Then its like nah, fuck this, movie.it seems fine when you are in a good mood and everything, but I noticed that when projects go on for a while you get kinda cranky and irritable and any one thing fucking off on you leads to abandonment. On the other hand if everything is done right, you can finish that sub assembly you did not really want to do then get super excited about the bigger project which is within reach now, because you got rid of a knot in your head and got a little boost of happy chemicals from achievement.I find its true for house work too, I get a basket and sometimes I organize all the tools, fasteners, whatever else in there, then just leave it alone in the correct area for a while, maybe a break, maybe the next day, even if it was just 5 minutes of labor, however long it takes me to get out of 'organization/acquisition' mode vs implementation mode.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 10:22:09 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on December 09, 2018, 09:48:58 pmTheonlyreason for being irked that I threw out those caps was because I didn't know I could sell them to audiophools.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 10:36:40 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on December 09, 2018, 10:22:09 pmYeah they're bloody awful capacitors for sure.I tend to grab anything like that at hamfests if I see it. Usually pays the fuel billRule 1 of throwing anything out: check sold prices on ebay first

author: LaserSteve
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 12:33:20 am
content: The worse thing is tearing down something you thought was long dead for disposal, then finding the fault during dismantling/harvesting. This has happened to me a few times during the cleanup every two years.Steve

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 12:53:56 am
content: I've had stuff hoarded for so many years I couldn't count. I know how it came about, though. In my early years, I had a Philips EE20 kit and components were not easily obtained. Certainly I didn't know where to find them and they weren't well advertised in my circles. Even so, when I did find some, they weren't cheap for a school kid. The answer was simple - see an abandoned device and drag it home. I scored a TV that way and managed to get it going without killing myself. I thank some instincts on HT and the thing that looked like a spark plug lead.With a childhood pattern of behaviour having been established, the stuff kept accumulating - so I instigated a regulation system. By this time I was working in a computer room and had access to as many empty 15x11 eyeline boxes as I wanted. I assigned one class of accumulation to each box and then when that filled to capacity, I had to decide what would be discarded to make way for the new acquisition. This gave me a peace of sorts ... until the box was full, I didn't have to decide - things could just get tossed in. It was also good for recovery. As long as I kept my sorting consistent, I only had one box to find and search through. I purposely made it difficult to decide to create a second box where I would split the contents. That was the recipe for uncontrolled hoarding.EVEN SO, in twenty years the most common retrieval was a mains power lead or other cable. In all the electronics, I can only remember retrieving one LED which was to replace an indicator LED in an Echoplex tape echo machine. The LED was a perfect physical match - I just had to slip off the aluminium bezel. The owner was mightily impressed - which was an achievement in itself. He was one of those people that would get a twitch if a replacement part looked anything but a perfect match. OK, I admit it - it was a fluke that I had such a part - but finding it was not so big of a deal. Containerisation of junk works well.

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 01:02:01 am
content: I am a lost cause and I pity the poor person who has to sort it out when I depart this life or get sent to the loonie binSalvaged this Australian made cap most likely 40 years ago from an old TV aged 10'ish. Only put it back into use last year wrapped with high silver content solder. See old Electrolytic Caps are safe to use and should be saved too!

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 06:59:51 am
content: I have got a lot old junk that I can't get rid.One day, that junk might have something useful inside or I might need it for something.Also some of it I think will be worth some money as one day as they are in good condition.I got an old IBM 8595 that still works that I got down the boot sale for £4 in 2001.With all the boxes of ecc 72 pin memory I acquired over the years none of it seems to work inside apart from the 16mb that it came with.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 07:03:17 am
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on December 10, 2018, 06:59:51 amAh - that's the chorus of the Hoarder's Song!(I know ... I've sung it for long enough!)

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 07:36:21 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on December 10, 2018, 07:03:17 amI have a found similar tune but with different lyrics obviously I found the wrong one.What we need are bigger houses for storage where it can all be sorted out.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 07:43:58 am
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on December 10, 2018, 07:36:21 amAlways the dream.Quote... yeah, well.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 08:54:16 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on December 10, 2018, 12:53:56 amWow, that wasexactlymy experience - including the EE20. I still have the instruction booklet somewhere, and the mustard caps I threw out were from that!QuoteUnfortunately in my case, s/box/house/. But it help does keep the expense down

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 11:25:40 am
content: I got 1 of these... It was only £30!It's handy as hell for making a quick label up and they stick good and proper to just about anything. I don't have anywhere near as much stuff as some of the more experienced members who have built stuff up over years or whatever have but I have a wee bit and if I start labelling early..................I'm missing the point here aren't i...... right?

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 11:27:46 am
content: Does it still count as hoarding if everything has a nice label on it....

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 11:41:40 am
content: I think hoarding is defined by the likely opinion of the person who has to clear all your crap out if you snuff it suddenlyFor SWMBO here "hey he labelled all his hoarded crap"

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 11:50:55 am
content: Quote from: bd139 on December 10, 2018, 11:41:40 am

author: sokoloff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 01:18:10 pm
content: Out of a desire to be sure they got recycled, I once labeled “dead” on some old lead acid batteries. Didn’t quickly get to recycling them, causing some teasing from a girlfriend.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 01:29:01 pm
content: I've got two big SLAs in the shed awaiting recycling. They were put in there when I moved in about ten years agoJust realised I ran out of some major resistor values from my dev kit. This resulted in 2140 resistors being ordered from Tayda (Royal Ohm ones). I haven't decided if I'm hoarding or not there. Is "buy 50 just in case" hoarding?

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 02:21:42 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on December 09, 2018, 07:47:29 pmIt's also a bugger when you need something which you recently threw out and buying a replacement is difficult/impossible.Quote from: bd139 on December 10, 2018, 01:29:01 pmIf it's commonly used resistors such as E24 values from 10R to 1M, then it makes sense to keep a stock, as long as it's well organised. I stock E24 resistors from 10R to 10M and E12 from 1M to 10M and 1R to 10R and some <1R values for current shunts.I can't imagine not keeping a stock of most commonly used resistors, capacitors, transistors and ICs, for prototyping.I admit I do have hoarding tendencies, but I normally avoid keeping truly useless crap or stuff which can easily/quickly replaced and is rarely used.

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 02:28:21 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on December 10, 2018, 01:29:01 pmThat’s the first time I’ve seen Tayda. I take it they are good for stuffs? Ebay can be a bit dodgy sometimes.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 03:18:43 pm
content: 50/50. Their branded stuff is ok. The rest is crap. Main thing is they label everything with $7 value on the customs declaration

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 04:37:14 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on December 10, 2018, 03:18:43 pmLOL

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 04:52:38 pm
content: does anyone question themselves on screw accumulation?It's like the one thing I have serious doubts about. I swear sorting a junk screw box is one of the worst things you can sort.

author: Kilrah
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 06:17:11 pm
content: Quote from: German_EE on December 09, 2018, 06:19:13 pmUntil the very next day after you threw it out of course.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 07:15:46 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on December 10, 2018, 07:43:58 amI am actually in the process of finding a larger home in the country side where you get a lot more for your money.I think I'll take my chances in the middle of nowhere where I'd have a bit more freedom than what my own town has to offer.It'll be very nice to get rid of my junk so I don't have the problem of storing it but the problem is it is my companion as it is there when I need it and stops me getting bored.

author: sokoloff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 07:29:29 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on December 10, 2018, 04:52:38 pmI don't sort random screws anymore than I'd sort random value 0603 resistors. (I admit the screws do at least go into a box.)On the other hand, I bought a wide selection of metric screws in a variety of lengths and head types (socket cap, socket flat, pan, etc) and put these into bins sorted by radius (M2.5, M3, M4, etc). I got a much smaller assortment of SAE hardware. (Living in the US, SAE hardware is pretty readily available. If you want an M2.5 socket head cap screw, 14mm in length, you're probably not going to find that at the local hardware store.)

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 07:41:57 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on December 10, 2018, 04:52:38 pmSame as a junk resistor box: if you can easily find what you need, good. Hence each type in a small Ziploc bag with a paper insert with the type is fine. OTOH, lots of resistors/screws in together is "suboptimal".Having said that, I do have half a dozen compartments with "similar" screws in each; that reduces the number I need to sort through by a useful amount.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 07:44:04 pm
content: Quote from: Kilrah on December 10, 2018, 06:17:11 pm... Because after two years you had forgotten it existed,untilyou threw it out.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 10:01:12 pm
content: On the subject of throwing stuff out... the oddest thing just happened to me. We still had two old style CRT TVs and I decided to throw them out a while ago. Collecting large garbage is done by appointment over here and tomorrow is 'the day' I got assigned. So while creating a pile of stuff we no longer need (besides the TVS) on the side of the road a white van stops. A man comes out and starts loading my old TV just while I was rolling the second one out. He ended up taking the TVs and everything with metal in it. I'm just wondering how he got his timing so impeccable.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 10:35:52 pm
content: Pikeys. They’re attracted by the quantum effect of scrap metal and damaged driveways.Did he try and sell you a dog?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 10:43:00 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on December 10, 2018, 10:35:52 pmHe didn't look like a pikey and he didn't try to sell me a dog. More like the many people collecting scrap metal. I'm just happy he took all the stuff with metal. The city's trash collection isn't exactly stellar with collecting trash. Chances are it is still there next week just like some other people's trash across the street.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 08:16:27 am
content: Just remembered something and found it. EEVblog #737 - World's Biggest Collection Of Electronics Components.The collector did well out of it and moved on.I got rid of a few black Dell 19" or 21" rebranded Sony Trinitron flat crt monitors as I was running out of room. I shouldn't have done as they were in excellent condition and would have made a good collection for a vintage set. When I put them outside and someone knocked later that day and asked of they can take the large one but they were not interested in the smaller ones.

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 12:47:12 pm
content: What's your real estate worth?My take on hoarding components is:"If in doubt, chuck it out." and "Live simply so you can simply live."I am qualified to say this as a reformed hoarder who took a total of 13 trailer loads of boards, including TV boards to the rubbish tip. I will never hoard again. Better to buy again from Digikey or whoever for your next project. But if you do store components, at least practice 5S:https://www.5stoday.com/what-is-5s/

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 01:14:11 pm
content: Sounds like Six Sigma but with one less S (which stands for Shit in 6 sigma)

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2018, 11:49:12 am
content: Quote from: bd139 on December 11, 2018, 01:14:11 pmI have experience with both.IBM took on Six Sigma as a religion in manufacturing in the 1990's. Six Sigma was a dud with hundreds of millions of dollars being wasted on it. Senior execs at IBM would lose face if they said "Six sigma is a failure". One zealot championed it for an extra two years after everyone else had moved on. Management would not tame him because it was they who preached it and his number one job goal was introducing, promoting and measuring six sigma. Corporate stupidity at its finest.5S on the other hand is very different. Painful to implement, but fabulous when it is up and running. I work in R & D. When I joined 2 years ago, you couldn't find anything anywhere - components, prototypes, dev boards, tools, test equipment, rubbish, documents etc. It was an out of control mess. I introduced 5S. Now everything is sorted, labelled, clean, uncluttered and now us engineers know where everything is. I also threw out crappy tools and bought a high end Tektronix oscilloscope, a MegiQ VNA, a 6 GHz spectrum analyser and other vital tools. Even the crappy side cutters were thrown in the bin and replaced with the wonderful Tronex (USA made) side cutters.The end result is higher productivity and a happier workplace.

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2018, 12:57:52 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on December 10, 2018, 01:29:01 pmThe trick is to keep them in the same pile....

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2018, 06:46:53 pm
content: If it's stuff that works, put it in small shipping boxes and sell them as "misc electronic parts" on ebay for cheap. I'm sure lot of newbies would buy stuff like that to get started. Sort them to some degree and maybe take a picture but idea is to not spend too much time.I'm kinda a hoarder myself before I throw out something I take out the PCBs so I can later take parts off em. Big capacitors are always fun to play with.

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2018, 07:06:13 pm
content: It is definitively a disease, and like the AA, you have to go thru a 12-step plan.The very first is to admit that one has the disease. Therefore, before you, I pledge:I, Schmitt trigger, admit that I am powerless over the allure of hoarding electronic components - that my workspace has become an unmitigated mess.There... I said it!

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2018, 07:39:28 pm
content: Reminds me, I have 3 bags that need to go to Makro to drop into the Samsung recycling container. hope I do not come back with more than I went with again, like the last few scrapyard visits.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2018, 08:00:13 pm
content: It seems whenever I throw something out I end up needing or wanting it later. I try to save interesting or unusual parts that I might eventually use, and I do regularly use them. Occasionally I purge mundane stuff that is replaceable and/or damaged or unknown. If I can't give it away here and it's not worth selling on eBay then it's probably junk.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2018, 08:28:44 pm
content: Enough said, just let these photos tell the tale ... hoards for last few months only, and these are just partially shown.... and more to come this week.

author: VK5RC
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 13, 2018, 11:32:11 pm
content: Self confessed hoarder, but had to organise after tidying up my late father's estate, you can fit a lot of stuff in a 6 car sized shed. His wasn't organised, so I found lots of boxes of the same stuff.To be efficient I need to have a certain amount of parts to hand, here it actually takes 2 days for RS, DK etc to deliver, I want to be able to get on with the job. I have not had a great deal of 'success' or use of second hand / salvaged parts to date.Organization, labelling and limits are the key in my book.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 14, 2018, 12:37:41 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on December 13, 2018, 08:28:44 pmSome good stuff!What's the problem?

author: lowimpedance
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2018, 12:43:46 am
content: Quote from: SeanB on December 13, 2018, 07:39:28 pmIve noticed you mentioned the scrapyard quite a bit over the years!, is it anything like Dave's junk room perchance ??. (contents wise)...............Purely rhetorical question though as I already have a mental image of a place I would like to "take my rubbish to" as well.Annnnnnnnnnnnnd yes I'm a hoarder of components and 'stuff' too.............. There I said it....so.

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2018, 01:13:43 am
content: Never be afraid to help a fellow Electronics hoarder out either if boxes of 'stuff' are offered freely or placed on evilbay or similar I feel we should just take a look and see if anything might useful in the years to come.I paid for a box a while ago of all sorts under $50 delivered) and not listed but included was two mint in boxes with wrapping Weston Standard Cells.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/1000-my-(hi)story-of-the-weston-cell-of-the-volt-and-of-being-a-volt-nuts/msg1437716/#msg1437716Still not sure what to do with 1000+ 100nF through hole Caps

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2018, 01:44:46 am
content: 100nf is a common value, use them as bypass caps on stuff you build. If you don't build anything through hole there are lots of others who do.

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2018, 01:54:45 am
content: Quote from: james_s on December 14, 2018, 01:44:46 amWhat and give away my preciousI will most likely use them up in 20-30 years at the current rate

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2018, 02:33:00 am
content: Quote from: beanflying on December 14, 2018, 01:54:45 amHmm... talking bout 100nF caps ... the precious ... both 100nF too.Hoard at last February, Russia silver mica 0.5% tolerance... or ... Kemet ceramic 100nF -> C0G (NPO) type from last year, with date code 96.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2018, 08:02:14 am
content: I’ve got a couple of reels of 100n 0603 X7R’s and some kemet TAJ tants. This is my retirement planAs for what to do with hundreds of 100nF TH caps, these are by far the most used caps for me. Bypass all the things. I recently built a reasonable range HF RF source and used 35 of the damn things in it.

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2018, 04:07:36 pm
content: Indeed! Just sprinkle the caps like salt and pepper all over your board.