EEVBlog2 - Brymen/EEVBlog BM235 Multimeter Unboxing - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: mux
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 12:42:02 pm
content: Well, it's not a Fluke!

author: steve30
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 01:59:48 pm
content: Looks good, though I think I prefer the Brymen red to the Dave blue.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 02:22:10 pm
content: Nice! Is it just me or does the logo looks a bit funky?

author: electrolux
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 02:22:39 pm
content: You definitely should do custom boxes, thier design is very poor & old fashioned in my opinion.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 02:29:36 pm
content: Definitely needs a blue box.

author: Marcel_X
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 02:38:44 pm
content: Yes...! Just ordered mine! You can never have enough DMMs...

author: Barny
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 03:33:30 pm
content: Don't turn it on. Take it apart!In my point of view, the only purpose of the package is to protect the product.Its not important how it looks, the product sould work like expected.

author: twistedresistor
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 06:42:47 pm
content: Any info on shipping to EU / Germany? Do you ship directly or do you have a distributor inside EU?From what i can tell, the device has no CE Marking nor declaration of conformity, albeit adhering to the necessary standards. This might be a problem when going through customs.I am really interested in getting one, but I will wait until the first reports from people in Germany will get in.

author: Marcel_X
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 07:44:08 pm
content: Quote from: twistedresistor on February 06, 2016, 06:42:47 pmWell, the box has a large 'CE' logo on it. And the front of the meter says 'UL listed'. Brymen has a good reputation, and I assume Dave knows what he's selling.And according to the manual (http://www.eevblog.com/files/BM235-Manual-EEVblog.pdf) the DMM does conform to the EMC directive and low voltage directive.I ordered one, so we'll see... I don't live in Germany btw, I am your neighbour on the left

author: artag
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 07:57:33 pm
content: No serial portBut there's hole for it. Can it be hacked in ?

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 08:18:44 pm
content: Simon already sells the uCurrents. Maybe he'll do these as well?http://www.sparkylabs.co.uk/shop/CE is self certification, that won't be an issue.

author: Marcel_X
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 08:26:55 pm
content: Quote from: artag on February 06, 2016, 07:57:33 pmHmmm... Interesting thought! Looking at the circuitboard, D13 is not populated. And the location of D13 is close to the hole.Might be the location for an IR transmitter/LED. But I don't see a second footprint for a photodiode. Maybe one-way comms only?https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/24179316974/in/album-72157664100975342/I hope to be able to verify that soon!

author: AdamHi
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 10:26:22 pm
content: Uh Oh.Somebody please sanity check me . . . . . but on the ACmV and DCmV part of the manual (p.11 of the PDF) - it looks to me like the Battery and AC source images were flipped illustrating AC and DC.--adam

author: samgab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 10:50:47 pm
content: Another thing which struck me as a bit odd in the manual:The manual seems to be explaining how to use the meter's EF Detection function to determine between LIVE and GROUND, but in the illustration, they seem to be showing LIVE vs NEUTRAL, and wouldn't GROUND be the terminal at the bottom of the socket (or plug, I think, as shown in this image (which in itself doesn't make sense, because a plug with exposed terminals shouldn't be energised anyway. Either that or live is shown on the wrong side.))?It might seem like a minor mistake, but if a newb used this illustration to determine GROUND, it could lead to a potentially fatal hazard. Of course, such a person shouldn't be messing with High Voltage AC, but it happens.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 11:05:57 pm
content: I like the blue casing. Dave should have put his 'face logo' on it as well

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 11:19:16 pm
content: nice meter! I wish I could afford one of these, maybe in the future if things get better

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 01:06:34 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on February 06, 2016, 11:05:57 pmOr his trademark platypus? It would have been funny if something like a diode test was labeled as a "flux capacitor test"

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 01:24:45 am
content: Quote from: electrolux on February 06, 2016, 02:22:39 pmMaybe I can hold a 99designs contest?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 01:28:13 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on February 06, 2016, 11:05:57 pmThey didn't want to change the holster moulding, or the front panel silkscreening.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 01:31:46 am
content: Quote from: samgab on February 06, 2016, 10:50:47 pmIn the MEN system (Multiple Earth Neutral), the Neutral is tried to Earth at the fuse box.I have not tried if it detects the difference though.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 01:43:20 am
content: Are these available openly - or just to supporters at the moment?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 01:54:32 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 07, 2016, 01:43:20 amJust to supporters, and even that was a mistake (I accidentally posted the shopping cart link). My shopping cart is having issues I need to solve.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 01:24:45 amI was just thinking, maybe I should go with plain blank cardboard box and whack a big stamp on each one: "EEVblog No bullshit Packaging", rather thank some fancy pantsy graphic design?EDIT: I just checked with eco-friendly SWMBO and she gave that idea the

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:09:17 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 am

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:13:35 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 am

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:14:13 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 amyep, that sounds very original

author: Paul Moir
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:15:46 am
content: Yeah, or perhaps "We spent the money on the product, not the box it came in."

author: AdamHi
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:28:06 am
content: She didn't get to be SWMBO for nothing - she's got it right!Plain packaging - just the facts Ma'am.--adam

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 03:49:22 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 amAnother +1

author: ludzinc
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 08:36:37 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 am

author: sequoia
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 11:10:25 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 amI love Amazon's "Frustration free packaging" (not sure if its available outside USA though). This sounds like nice twist on that idea...

author: ByteMe
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 12:42:25 pm
content: Dave, I don't know if anyone has asked this already: but what would be the advantages and disadvantages between buying your BM235 and a BM257. I'm asking because I'm European and I really do WANT the EEVBlog multimeter, but I'd be slapped with a metric butt ton of taxes and duties and I can just buy the BM257 locally. Please give me a good reason to convince myself to spend umpteen euros extra for the extra coolness factor?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:31:22 pm
content: Quote from: ByteMe on February 07, 2016, 12:42:25 pmLook at the datasheet yourself. Some things better, some thing worse, you make the choice.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:34:37 pm
content: Quote from: sequoia on February 07, 2016, 11:10:25 amMe too. Seems everyone likes the idea, so that will be it. Plain brown cardboard box (none of that white rubbish) with a "EEVblog NO BULLSHIT Packaging" stamp.I'll tell them to lose the annoying store hanger on the top of the box too.I need to make stamp artwork and get a custom stamp made.

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:39:56 pm
content: This will have to suffice until you start selling them

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 03:34:30 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:34:37 pmAnd a screwdriver in the box to heed to the Eevblog gospel.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 06:30:00 pm
content: They can't laser engrave the box?

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 07:16:53 pm
content: Quote from: Jeroen3 on February 07, 2016, 06:30:00 pmWith the meter inside.

author: AdamHi
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 07:34:27 pm
content: QuoteWay cool.Even better than what first thought you meant - that you were going to use artwork to make it __look like__ it was stamped.Too bad i just recently bought two more meters from Franky - otherwise I would be on a wait-list (Wrong thread here - but I think wait-list is better than crowdfund option).--adam

author: zaoka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 02:16:04 am
content: Dave why dont you ask Siglent if they are willing to develop a meter with your specifications and parts grade... branded... Its China but they can do good job today and are still affordable enought to make profit... and you know people overthere99designs would be great idea. So many talented guys overthere.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 02:20:25 am
content: Quote from: zaoka on February 08, 2016, 02:16:04 amI am working on my own custom meter with someone.BTW, it's not as easy as me specifying everything, there are inevitable tradeoffs when working with a T&M company on a product like this.I'd like to blog the experience so far, but I can't.

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 02:27:40 am
content: I'm curious how it will look like hehe

author: Len
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 03:27:52 am
content: Quote from: RobertoLG on February 08, 2016, 02:27:40 amIf it's a proper Aussie meter, it'll have the input jacks at the top and the display down under.

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 03:44:08 am
content: Quote from: RobertoLG on February 08, 2016, 02:27:40 amAnalogue

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:02:08 am
content: whatever it looks like when it's done, the sensation that it has your fingerprint on it, must be supercool

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:09:40 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:34:37 pmSomething like this, maybe?(Hi res unrotated available, if interested)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:11:50 am
content: I've already done this:

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:14:04 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 08, 2016, 04:09:40 amI do like that one better though I think, please email the original, unrotated.Thanks.

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:17:18 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 08, 2016, 04:09:40 amthis one looks very nice

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:20:25 am
content: I am not a prude, nor do I care for political correctness, but......You are selling to the public and trying make money. It would be in your best interest to not have the word "bullshit" on your packaging. It will possibly restrict sales. Sorry, better to be politically correct for this particular application IMHO.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:29:05 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 08, 2016, 04:14:04 amEmailed to admin@eevblog.comEnjoy

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 05:02:24 am
content: Quote from: Lightages on February 08, 2016, 04:20:25 amYou don't know me very well do you?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 05:03:03 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 08, 2016, 04:29:05 amNo such emaildave@eevblog.com please

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 05:05:11 am
content: Sorry.Re-sent.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 05:07:50 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 08, 2016, 05:02:24 amYou know better than that!. I know your style very well. Don't you remember calling me out for spending too much time here?

author: madalf71
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 08:09:07 am
content: +1 on the Brumby design.

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:08:44 pm
content: I for one would LOVE to have a box that has Brumby's design on it - definitely a box I would never toss. Here's an idea - how about getting stickers or something like that made up with that design to also sell? And obviously a t-shirt.

author: Anorax
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:13:44 pm
content: Hoping to order one of these soon as my current unit has died. Very timely.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:20:46 pm
content: Quote from: rrinker on February 08, 2016, 01:08:44 pmMaybe I should have worked out a deal with Dave for merchandising rights....Oh well.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:23:06 pm
content: I received a PM from a member pointing out that we don't have something for the back of the box....Any suggestions?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:36:05 pm
content: Quote from: rrinker on February 08, 2016, 01:08:44 pmI have an idea for stickers to be included, although with something else on them...

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:36:37 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 08, 2016, 04:09:40 amThere ya go... Except in Blue..

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 02:48:26 pm
content: Quote from: Lightages on February 08, 2016, 04:20:25 amI don't think Dave's target market includes the demographic you think it does.

author: rollatorwieltje
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 03:06:52 pm
content: As posted in the T&M forum, you really need to do this as well:http://www.ehx.com/products/9v-batteryDon't forget to send one to Batterizer...

author: PeterL
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 05:09:31 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 08, 2016, 01:23:06 pmProbes the monkey?

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 06:07:29 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on February 08, 2016, 02:48:26 pmI understand, but if you want to sell as many items as you can then you shouldn't artificially restrict the market at the beginning. I was stating my opinion in the case of this.If the goal is to sell only as many items as will be sold to those who won't/don't care about a word on their purchase, then that is another matter. If the goal is to do what you want and to hell with the consequences, then that is another matter again.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 06:20:28 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 08, 2016, 05:02:24 amI hope the guys at Brymen know Dave well enough, and there are no surprises when Dave will send his request for the package, such that "well when we did say you can have everything you want on the packaging we didn't mean it literally everything..."

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:06:56 am
content: Variation for something a little more politically correct, while still being reasonably obvious....I tried picking up the blue from the holster in Dave's unboxing video - but it was just too pale for this graphic, so I've tweaked it. Don't know if I like the colour - but that is easily changed.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:18:38 am
content: Hi res emailed to Dave.It's his call after all.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:20:04 am
content: I'm printing this one for the wall in the workshop, brilliant work.....Another suggestion for the back of the box could be something like "Don't open the box, take it apart".

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:20:38 am
content: Just noticed .... the new graphic puts Dave right in the middle of the 'shit'.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:22:54 am
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on February 09, 2016, 12:20:04 amWant the Hi-res?What colour? The original Hi-res is black and white, but colour changes are dead simple ... if you know the colour you want.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:24:54 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 09, 2016, 12:06:56 amI'm not usually a fan of political correctness, but I do like that version.Leave off the packaging and it's a great T-Shirt emblem too I think.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:25:22 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 09, 2016, 12:20:38 amWhere I always am!

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:27:13 am
content: @BrumbyThat would be nice, I can PM my email if the file is too big, I like the blue as above but can easily mod it as you said.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:28:07 am
content: Quote from: bitwelder on February 08, 2016, 06:20:28 pmI'll be requesting plain brown cardboard packaging and will stamp it myself. There is something satisfying about that.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:40:19 am
content: I like that blue version with the Dave logo.

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:52:11 am
content: The blue logo version on the box, but I like the tilted first one for a shirt.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:54:26 am
content: You would need a light brown box and a dark blue stamp to get decent enough contrast... but, again, Dave's call.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:58:04 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 09, 2016, 12:54:26 amI've ordered a red stamp.I see no reason why the stamp colour has to match the holster, as that could be construed as "bullshit"!

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:58:59 am
content: looks good too

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 01:03:03 am
content: I can almost see this becoming the new defacto logo!All it needs is the traditional EEVBlog colour scheme on the "EEVblog" font (no patchy stamp look), and the "No Bulls(logo)t" text below it (could be in the broken stamp font)

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 01:05:55 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 09, 2016, 01:03:03 amI am absolutely horrible at anything slightly artistic, however I think you are on to something here. Maybe have the No Bullshit in stamp font diagonally below the other part, in a different color (you graphics design people can figure out what color goes well with the EEVBlog blue).

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 01:11:04 am
content: Quote from: rrinker on February 09, 2016, 01:05:55 amYes, it really requires someone who knows this stuff.The EEVBlog "blue" has never really been a defined colour, although the new blue holster has a specific Pantone colour (3005C) (Hex #0077c8).

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 01:14:03 am
content: Think I'll grab a cuppa - and get comfortable....

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 01:46:22 am
content: I hope you don't mind Brumby but I also needed a new sign for the front gate, printed and laminated.....

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 02:11:16 am
content: Cute.I have been conversing with Dave about fonts and some other tweaks to keep things a bit more consistent. Once worked out, I will provide a revised Hi-res graphic for everyone to have access.

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 03:09:35 am
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on February 09, 2016, 01:46:22 amI should put that on my gates. Because these two scare the crap out of everyone - NOT!

author: gnif
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 03:35:33 am
content: I think I saw mine in that box!Dave sent me one that arrived yesterday and I have to say, it is a very nice little meter, has a nice weight to it and the probes it comes with are beautiful. I actually think I prefer it to my Agilent meter, the holster makes it perfect for carrying about, the Agilent one worries me with its rubber moulded as part of the enclosure.As for accuracy, with what I have measured so far it is well within spec (well atleast if I compare with readings from my Escort 3146A).I agree about the box though, it looks and feels like something I would expect to pickup at super cheap auto.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 05:13:53 am
content: Quote from: gnif on February 09, 2016, 03:35:33 amFor overseas viewers - Supercheap Auto is a car parts, tools and accessories retailer that is pretty much what the name suggests. They are a big concern, though - 240 stores across Australia.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 06:32:19 am
content: Quote from: Lightages on February 08, 2016, 06:07:29 pmI'm not sure you do.Quote from: Lightages on February 08, 2016, 06:07:29 pmTry this for a concept: Dave might sellmoreof these if he puts a bad word on the box.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 06:36:55 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 09, 2016, 01:11:04 amIt's pointless arguing about specific colors in online forums. Everybody's monitor (and ambient lighting) is different.Pantone, or STFU.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 06:44:20 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 09, 2016, 01:11:04 amJust curious, how close is "the EEVblog blue" to the one used by Tektronix in their DMM916 meter (like therehttps://youtu.be/uqURkr9YVvM?t=143) ?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 07:25:25 am
content: Have fiddled a bit (in between other priorities) and have this to show for it....Not much different than before - except this one has the right font for "EEVBlog" and uses Dave's blue.Quote from: EEVblog on February 09, 2016, 01:11:04 am

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 07:29:27 am
content: Hex #0077c8 is what is defined in the image.What you see is purely a function of your monitor...

author: samgab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 08:10:30 am
content: Just a thought: If you're using a real stamp to stamp the logo onto the cardboard boxes, you'll get the "stamped on cardboard" effect without using the fake "stamp effect" on the logo itself. The stamp should possibly be, I'd suggest, just a normal version of the logo without the fake effect, and the effect on the boxes will be real stamp effect... Errr, got that?

author: GoneTomorrow
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 09:23:50 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 08, 2016, 02:20:25 amDoes theNDAlift once the product has gone to market?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 10:55:41 am
content: Quote from: bitwelder on February 09, 2016, 06:44:20 amI've got one of those meters, and IIRC, it's darker.Can take a photo tomorrow.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 10:57:15 am
content: Quote from: samgab on February 09, 2016, 08:10:30 amWe'll see, I've ordered one, albeit without the DaveHand logo.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 11:15:40 am
content: The website has a new logoThoughts?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 11:31:55 am
content: I like it.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 11:45:44 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 09, 2016, 11:35:31 amYou don't. I've ordered a red stamp. Red goes faster.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 11:46:49 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 09, 2016, 11:35:31 amThe China Export 'CE' stamp is also required for the over zealous German Customs Officers. May as well go the whole hog and get those pre printed and signed CN23 forms. Description: Meter, Value $5.00, Gift: X

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 11:48:32 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 09, 2016, 11:35:31 amNot hard, actually. Google it.As for the graphic, the colour shown here is just because it can be. A rubber stamp could have simply black (or brown or blue or purpleor red) ink over everything.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 11:50:54 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 09, 2016, 11:46:10 amNo Waffle - as in No Ice-cream?That justisn'tDave.

author: PeterL
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:13:45 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 09, 2016, 11:48:32 amThe multi coloured logo is nice, but as a stamp on the box it's IMHO a bit contradictory to the idea of 'No Bullshit packaging'. I would keep it as simple as i can be.You also might want to consider printing/stamping 'BM235' on the box. Just so that once your assortment has grown you don't have to open every box to find the right item.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 12:38:29 pm
content: Quote from: PeterL on February 09, 2016, 12:13:45 pmOh... Yeah....

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 09:05:16 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 09, 2016, 11:15:40 amhaha! that is great

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 10:16:50 pm
content: http://mystickerfactory.com.au/warranty_stickers.htmlEEVBlog Warranty VOID If Not Removed stickers on every meter?

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 10:34:45 pm
content: Quote from: metalphreak on February 09, 2016, 10:16:50 pmI was thinking about something like that too

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 10:49:20 pm
content: Quote from: PeterL on February 09, 2016, 12:13:45 pmThe only thing simpler is no stamp, nothing at all. And that ruins the fun.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 10:52:02 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 09, 2016, 11:46:10 amSo not happy with "No Bullshit", but happy with "No Waffle"?Admit it, you don't like it because it's not PC enough.

author: Stupid Beard
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2016, 11:10:15 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 09, 2016, 11:15:40 amI like it.Only comment I have is that the blue doesn't really go with the orange so it looks a bit out of place to my eyes. I'd say change the orange to something that fits a bit better since it seems you prefer blue in general.

author: PeterL
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 07:17:28 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 09, 2016, 10:49:20 pmOh no, That's not how I meant it. Please keep the stamp, in fact, I got interested in this thread after reading about ditching the fancy (but shoddy looking) box and going for a simple one instead. So kudos to the one who came up with the idea.What I meant was that a multi-colored stamp would be overkill imho. But just a normal stamp with recognizable logo =

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 08:10:29 am
content: My shopping cart integration finally worksI've started shipping more international orders, and see no reason not to open it up to public orders now.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 08:15:19 am
content: Someone wanted a photo of the DMM916Colour is close.

author: elex_enthusiast
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 10:32:09 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 10, 2016, 08:15:19 amI'm curious dave, will you also sell those surplus Tek DMM's?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 12:07:48 pm
content: Quote from: elex_enthusiast on February 10, 2016, 10:32:09 amI have. The ones left are the rejects.

author: Sinusoidal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 12:22:58 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 10, 2016, 08:15:19 amDamn close, the Bryman is just a tad lighter, a little bit of dirt will make the difference negligible. Speaking of which, my 235 is already starting to get a bit dirty. Oh well, can't keep that fresh look forever. A dirty meter is a well loved meter, after all

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 01:42:27 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 10, 2016, 08:10:29 amAre the prices in US$ or AU$?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 01:44:02 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on February 10, 2016, 01:42:27 pmAUD for now, but I'm playing with a plugin that allows USD and shows other currencies.I'm not sure if there is a way to actually display the AUD in front.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 01:59:29 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 10, 2016, 08:10:29 amHi Dave, Is the price in AUD or USD?I took it to be AUD and went through the process until PayPal quoted be the total price as $155 USD before the point of actual purchase.Edit: Umm, I see it is supposed to be AUD, this is what I get from PayPal:

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 02:14:38 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 10, 2016, 08:10:29 amYay!I suppose it might be a good idea to have a meter that's younger than my kids, and the specs on this one are more than adequate for what I need, so here's to supporting my favorite YouTube channel!

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 03:43:29 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 09, 2016, 11:15:40 amWell I like the picture of the lab better than an ad.On the other hand who doesn't like no bullshit? Or nonsense design.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2016, 08:17:53 am
content: Quote from: Towger on February 10, 2016, 01:59:29 pmAh, a plugin I tested temporarily set the default currency to USD it seems. Fixed that earlier today.Crazy that Woocommerce nor plugins allow the display of currency before the actual PayPal checkout. They all assume that the US dollar is the only $

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2016, 09:21:29 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 11, 2016, 08:17:53 amJust ordered one and can confirm it is now fixed. PayPal charged EUR102.16, but did not take anything from my available balance which currently has some GBP in it. Did you see my comment on a wan hung low value?Towger.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2016, 12:19:59 pm
content: Dave can run with the "No Bullshit" without any problems. We've seen that over and over.He couldn't try flying "No Waffle" and get away with it. We've seen that too.But when you put it all together, it is informative, entertaining and well worth the time to watch each video he puts up.

author: Maxlor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2016, 12:39:39 pm
content: I wanted to order one, but it tells me that there's no shipping method available for (Switzerland, ZH, 8008)Surely shipping to Switzerland isn't different than shipping to other parts of Europe?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2016, 12:52:21 pm
content: Quote from: Maxlor on February 11, 2016, 12:39:39 pmYes, it is.http://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/pack-and-track-international.htmlNote the country list.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2016, 01:10:37 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 11, 2016, 12:19:59 pmIf Dave put "No Waffle" on a box out of political correctness,thatwould be bullshit.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2016, 01:11:42 pm
content: I'll pay that one.

author: Morgoroth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2016, 02:27:40 pm
content: I had a little business and I discovered that when you have a problem involving the decision of a client (packaging in this case) is wise to let them choose what they want, probably keep all packaging options available is a good way to procede.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2016, 02:55:02 pm
content: Quote from: Morgoroth on February 11, 2016, 02:27:40 pmIf it's a case of having two different rubber stamps, then...whatever.(But at least make the politically correct people wait for the second or third batch to arrive before they get theirs...)

author: Hootch
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2016, 04:16:02 am
content: Hi Dave,I couldn't figure out, if you will accept orders from Germany this time. I don't want to be the cause of trouble again, like when I ordered the µcurrent. Actually, now it looks quite similar to me: according to your order-form the delivery to Germany seems to be possible and the australian post website tells me that this pack-and-track-thing is availabale for Germany too.So makes it sense to order one multimeter from you? Or maybe Simon from Sparky labs will be (or already is) the EU distributor for the multimeter, like for the µcurrent?GreetingsStefan

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2016, 05:25:14 am
content: Yes, it's available to Germany and some Germans have ordered it.It could get stuck for month in customs like last time though, I'm testing that.

author: Errmy
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2016, 05:54:20 pm
content: I ordered one and I'll see how long it will take. Since this is my first time ordering something from overseas, I'm a bit excited to see what additional taxes and fees await me.

author: hopski
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2016, 08:44:42 pm
content: Ordered mine today. Hopefully no customs issues to UK.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2016, 11:05:31 pm
content: Quote from: Errmy on February 15, 2016, 05:54:20 pmYour experience will be no doubt horrific. Germany has by far the most ridiculous customs program on the planet. And I've shipped to virtually every country on the planet. Germany stands tall among all others.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2016, 11:05:54 pm
content: Quote from: hopski on February 15, 2016, 08:44:42 pmNever really heard of any issues.

author: MarvinTheMartian
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 03:28:00 am
content: Hi Dave,Got my EEVblog meter yesterday - looks great but I haven't had a chance to play with it as yet.Did have a quick squiz at your version of the manual though and just happened to open it at the Trouble Shooting page.I noted the new technical term you inserted instead of "...fails to operate..." ie "...looks to be buggered..."Loved it - can't wait to read the rest of it for more gems like that!Bob

author: Hootch
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 04:25:42 am
content: I'm happy to hear that and I have ordered one.Quote from: EEVblog on February 15, 2016, 11:05:31 pmIndeed, you and me would say it this way. Others would call it 'deutsche Gründlichkeit'.GreetingsStefan

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 04:26:49 am
content: Quote from: MarvinTheMartian on February 16, 2016, 03:28:00 amIt's not finished yet, that was quick hack.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 04:28:43 am
content: Crikey, getting close to selling out!

author: MarvinTheMartian
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 05:29:41 am
content: Looks like you're on a winner Dave!I'm happy to get a good meter and at the same time support the blog.Glad I got in early before they sold out.Keep up the great work!

author: madalf71
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 07:56:36 am
content: Another happy, and slightly demented looking owner, still can't get that tounge and wink thing right!

author: mux
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 08:15:09 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 16, 2016, 04:28:43 amObligatory 'you sold out'-joke?Joking of course!

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 09:24:16 pm
content: Quote from: mux onYesterdayat 07:15:09 PM>Quote from: EEVblog onYesterdayat 03:28:43 PMObligatory 'you sold out'-joke?Joking of course!Are you going to publish the schematics or do a teardown and hack it?SERIOUSLY, NO BULLSHIT!there are some stuff, a depth comparison against others would be nice to have.Most cheapo DMMs are crappy and I hate to lack wireless non-ir datalogging able to use it on the com0uter, maybe a keyboard modewould be nice for spreadsheets too.Kind regards.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2016, 10:22:08 pm
content: Quote from: timofonic on February 16, 2016, 09:24:16 pmTeardown photos are on the website and in the manual.Brymen will not give me the schematic, nor tell me what the main chipset is.QuoteA review and comparison will come. But probably no point if I don't have stock to actually sell.

author: vsboost
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 01:14:43 am
content: Hey Dave,Just ordered one and noticed on checkout its on backorder, how long roughly until you get more stock.Cheers

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 01:17:01 am
content: Quote from: vsboost on February 18, 2016, 01:14:43 amApril.I'm removing the Backorder option now I think, as I will no doubt get complaints about the delay.

author: vsboost
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 01:23:14 am
content: Sorry just seen AprilCheers

author: vsboost
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 05:21:39 am
content: Make sure i get the best one when you test all your new batch.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 06:05:29 am
content: Just throwing this out there based on some comments, but it doesn't seem to have the same impact.I can't see Dave getting enthusiastic...I expect some will think even this is still too vulgar.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 06:18:09 am
content: The more I think about it, the more I feel Dave won't be impressed that I've bothered to make the effort.I'm not sure it was worth the effort (not that it took much) - but I'll leave it here for the moment in case anyone has some other suggestions...

author: diyman11
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 09:51:30 pm
content: I just received the BM235. Nice meter!What is the max temperature for the thermocouple probe? I am thinking that the plastic insulation is the limiting factor.

author: drussell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 11:11:50 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 18, 2016, 06:05:29 amThat kind of thing looks great to me!That kind of thing should be on the brown cardboard box for sure! (If he does that)

author: XFDDesign
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 11:18:10 pm
content: When I first saw his blue DMM, I thought Dave had made his own DMM from scratch! A little disappointed to find out that wasn't true.I'll still buy one when they come back in stock.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 11:46:18 pm
content: Quote from: XFDDesign on February 18, 2016, 11:18:10 pmYou're not in the loop

author: XFDDesign
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2016, 11:56:09 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 18, 2016, 11:46:18 pmWouldn't be the first time!

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 19, 2016, 02:14:01 am
content: Quote from: drussell on February 18, 2016, 11:11:50 pmThese are the variations presented earlier for the box....

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 19, 2016, 02:15:55 am
content: There's even a variation Dave taken up for his main website...

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2016, 02:23:41 am
content: Quote from: diyman11 on February 18, 2016, 09:51:30 pmA TC has two temperature maximum limits. First is the basic metal melting point of the two different metal conductors used, which is different for the types J,K,etc. The second limit is the insulation used to prevent the wires from touching except at the measurement end. I've seen K couples made with ceramic insulators for the highest temp applications.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 19, 2016, 03:44:39 am
content: Well the stamp idea was a fail.It works fine on a flat hard surface, but on the box itself it just doesn't work. The middle of the stamp doesn't get printed because the cardboard curves when you press on it.Perhaps a sticker is in order.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 19, 2016, 03:50:35 am
content: You can't make a wood block to put inside the box part you want to stamp and support it that way?

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2016, 05:39:38 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 19, 2016, 03:44:39 amBoxes would normally be stamped flat, before they're assembled..

author: Warhawk
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2016, 07:34:33 am
content: Hmm, I went through the manual and copared it to the 257 one. It seems that it is practically identical meter. Somwhere 235's specs are even better but curiously internals are different.Dave are you planning side by side comparison ? You also mentioned that 235 should be cheaper but I am wondering what makes it cheaper ?Hmm, I wish I needed another DMM. O0

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2016, 12:09:44 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 19, 2016, 03:44:39 amNoob. You need a foam or wood shape to slide the box on to stamp it.But seeing that your box is glossed, stamping is going to be hard (unless special inks yadada).Sticker is good, and if your son is anything like my daughter with stickers, you already have your "proudly made in Oz" application machine.

author: nowlan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2016, 12:52:36 pm
content: Quote from: Warhawk on February 19, 2016, 07:34:33 amThought the difference was bar graph on display, and some minor details.

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 12:39:27 pm
content: Quote from: gildasd on February 19, 2016, 12:09:44 pmYeah... the whole point is Dave is stamping the boxes as they arrive from the factory. He doesn't get all the boxes flat packed and then stuffs the meters in himself. Taking the meters out, stamping the box, and putting it all back together just isn't worth the time.Stickers it is. They can be bought cheap enough anyway. Get the ones with clear backing (not white) and it'll look less like a sticker on the brown box.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 12:43:03 pm
content: I know this is a bit of a back-pedal, but how about the boxes are printed with it in the first place....

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 01:02:17 pm
content: Quote from: Warhawk on February 19, 2016, 07:34:33 amNo bargraph, so probably cheaper LCD driver chip. I think they also used a different main chipset.Just guesses though.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 01:02:53 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 19, 2016, 03:59:13 amBecause it's fun.

author: Wolfram.Chrome
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 01:31:44 pm
content: This multimeter is very good as the others brymen's multimeter.But as i said in some other topic around this forum ,there is no metal thread inserts inside the plastic components where screws are inserted.I know that i don't must to open very often my multimeter to touch stuff etc...,but for this price i will be very glad if in my multimeter will be this little stuff which make it better and very durable in time .

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 02:07:11 pm
content: Quote from: Wolfram.Chrome on February 23, 2016, 01:31:44 pmFlukes don't have them either.

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 04:02:17 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 23, 2016, 02:07:11 pmI agree. It's a matter or proper design on not. The (older at least) model 87 uses self tappers but they are as I recall quite long so have lots of 'meat' to grab onto.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 04:45:30 pm
content: Quote from: retrolefty on February 23, 2016, 04:02:17 pmSelf tappers can easily chew up the plastic if you don't start them off nicely by hand when you put them back.

author: Wolfram.Chrome
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 05:59:36 pm
content: maybe we can create an petition on this forum to ask if fluke can made the case of they multimeters with metal thread inserts inside the plastic components where screws are inserted

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 06:01:26 pm
content: Fluke will ignore it and continue not worrying about screws you don't need to remove.

author: Wolfram.Chrome
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 06:09:34 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on February 23, 2016, 06:01:26 pmIm willing to pay something like 300 euros for an high quality made multimeter .So why some taiwanese 40 $ multimeter (ELENCO M-2625A )can have the metal inserts thread for screws and one expensive like Fluke 87v can't ?I also seen on the net too much people complaning about the enclosure case of this meter and personally i also think that them are right,however it's obvious so no more comments.........

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 06:58:59 pm
content: Quote from: Wolfram.Chrome on February 23, 2016, 06:09:34 pmMaybe metal insets are weaker. How will you fix then to the plastic?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 09:36:02 pm
content: The two main problems I've encountered with self tappers into plastic not lasting are when you have ham-fisted types that think they're doing up a wheel nut on their car - or when you cross thread them when re-fitting, which chews out another thread.The latter is easily prevented with a little care...Quote from: Fungus on February 23, 2016, 04:45:30 pm

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2016, 09:46:04 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 23, 2016, 09:36:02 pmSadly, the reality is most people overtighten those, too.

author: vsboost
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2016, 01:52:15 am
content: Look what arrived today.

author: samgab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2016, 06:19:47 am
content: Quote from: Wolfram.Chrome on February 23, 2016, 05:59:36 pmThere's no point, with Fluke DMMs. Whatever they are doing with those self tapper screws into plastic, they're doing it right, because I've never had one fail or strip, and I've never heard of it happening with genuine Fluke DMMs. So why fix a problem that doesn't exist?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 25, 2016, 10:13:41 am
content: Quote from: samgab on February 25, 2016, 06:19:47 amSame here.

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2016, 10:31:50 am
content: Self tappers are also more likely to hold the meter together in an explosion scenario within the meter. Think about it. Screws into metal threaded inserts, but what holds the inserts in? Its the outer ridges of the insert press fit into the plastic. It's going to have a lot less grip than some of the meaty self tappers Fluke uses.

author: MarvinTheMartian
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2016, 10:03:56 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 am

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2016, 11:16:57 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 amYes. No fancy pantsy graphics designer will please everybody.Even simpler: Double-box them. Make a "No bullshit" shipping box that fits the other box snugly. That way you won't have to re-box all those meters.Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2016, 02:08:27 am

author: lapm
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2016, 04:25:42 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on February 07, 2016, 02:09:17 amThis... I would buy just for box it comes in...

author: hopski
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2016, 11:54:18 am
content: Mine arrived today. Yeah !!Import charges and VAT £21.20 BooGlad I didn't enter the Scope givaway, would need to sell the car to pay the taxesIt does whistle, when the backlight comes on, but not loud enough to be annoying.

author: Hootch
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2016, 06:40:38 pm
content: I can't believe it. I got a letter from the local customs office, that they have something for me. From AustraliaNow I have to manage to get there within 14 days. Problem: they open their office from monday to thursday from 9am to 2pm and friday from 9am to 1:30pmOtherwise I could pay 28,50 € for the postal-customs-service, so I can pick up the packet at the post office and pay the taxes etc. there. Ridiculous.If I'm lucky my boss will let me leave earlier from work.

author: boggis the cat
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2016, 10:30:56 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 25, 2016, 10:13:41 amFluke metersdoget stripped. Some people just put the screws back then drive them in, cutting a new groove into the plastic boss.If you want to avoid stripping the boss, then place the screw and back it off until it drops down into the existing groove, then replace the screw as normal. As a bonus it will also be easier to drive in and feel when it has stopped, thus ensuring a reasonable torque.

author: Hootch
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2016, 05:52:13 pm
content: YES! I have it!But I have to make a confession: I turned it on before i took it apart.I must say that this is a really nice meter. It's worth every cent.No problems with the customs this time.And, by the way, I think, that I have one meter of the 'Sydney mass turbulence of 2016', because the box had a crushed corner and the manual was missing. Anyway, there is only one genuine version of the manual, and this you get only online.Greetings from Germany

author: hopski
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2016, 12:06:46 am
content: Nice one. Did you get a "quiet" one?

author: Hootch
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2016, 03:34:20 am
content: No, the backlight talks to me. Maybe I'll hack into it and change the cap but in the moment it doesn't disturb me that much. And at first I want to find out, if the serial interface is only missing the IR-LED or if it isn't implemented at all. But there is no need for me to hurry.And I forgot to mention, that the LoZ-mode is extremely nice. That, in combination with the CAT IV-rating and the nice probes with the 4mm tips makes it a nice electrician's meter.

author: Errmy
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2016, 11:17:26 am
content: Finally, after 3 weeks in customs, my EEVblog DMM arrived! I wasn't even hoping that it would arrive after so long, but now I have a nice DMM

author: Mr_X
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 16, 2016, 08:49:56 pm
content: It finally arrived. After almost 4 weeks, my EEVBlog DMM managed to escape "the big void" (customs). I almost thought it got lost. It is a very nice DMM.