Dave is selling his meters on Amazon in the US - search EEVBlog on Amazon - Page 1
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author: ez24
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timestamp: August 06, 2016, 12:16:19 am
content: Edit - Dave has listed his meter so I deleted the old post which said he "should" list itNow how to delete Poll ?

author: botcrusher
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2016, 12:31:08 am
content: Affiliate codes! *Nudge Nudge*

author: German_EE
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timestamp: August 06, 2016, 01:33:12 pm
content: Amazon are not worth it unless you are a VERY large seller. The existing system (including the European Distributor) is good enough.

author: george graves
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timestamp: August 06, 2016, 01:42:26 pm
content: Quote from: German_EE on August 06, 2016, 01:33:12 pmWhy is that?

author: German_EE
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2016, 08:08:37 pm
content: Amazon take a commission and this will eat into profits.

author: JoeO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2016, 08:21:11 pm
content: Quote from: German_EE on August 06, 2016, 08:08:37 pmYes but what is important is what percentage is the commission?

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 12:11:21 am
content: Quote from: German_EE on August 06, 2016, 08:08:37 pmThat's not a valid point.So will ebay if you sell on there. Even if you sell it on your own site and do your own fulfillment, you'll still have the payment processor take a cut.

author: Ampera
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timestamp: August 07, 2016, 03:19:24 pm
content: Bitcoin?jkjk.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 06:39:25 pm
content: It seems like the vast majority of people who would be interested in an EEVBLOG meter are members of this site. I'm not sure how selling on Amazon would help. If it were advertised and sold by the OEM rather than EEVBLOG and EEVBLOG just gets a commission for allowing them to use the brand, maybe they could do a better job getting the meter in the spot light. No idea. Actually, I am not even sure how to buy something from EEVBLOG now. I'll figure that out once the new meter is available.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 07:05:41 pm
content: I voted yes because I expect Prime same day shipping (meaning it is stocked in the next town over). Unrealistic...I have to believe the meter is a niche product and without a massive advertising campaign, who would even know they exist. Or care... I don't see Amazon being the answer to that. eBay, maybe. Everybody is looking for a bargain on eBay. Unfortunately, the EEVBlog meter is too expensive for the low end meters and if people want to spend bucks, they probably buy something from Fluke. Where does this meter fit?I have two, I like them but I bought them to support the effort. There are many competing meters at lower prices or even the same price with the Fluke label.

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 07:35:44 pm
content: Selling on amazon is good.Unlike ebay amazon takes a more active role than ebay in removing counterfeits. Amazon does take a cut but that cut is actually very small (they even have a calculator and you can actually see the percentage). Amazon also has a feature that lets you ship to their warehouse and they will ship from there. Amazon also can use your debit card whereas on ebay you have to use paypal so using ebay you have a cut taken twice.So dave should use both amazon and distributors and adjusting the price so that both amazon and distributors sell at a similar price. Its important that the product also have value/price and dave's head on it.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 10:45:26 pm
content: In my opinion, ebay fees are actually ridiculously high. For the higher volume sellers, I usually check to see if they have a standalone online store and will buy through there instead of ebay.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 11:39:02 pm
content: It's not just a matter of simply deciding to sell meters on Amazon, I probably would if it was that easy. But it's how exactly you go about doing that from Australia.There is also the point of Fulfilment by Amazon, how is that done from Australia?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 11:42:41 pm
content: Quote from: rstofer on August 07, 2016, 07:05:41 pmYes. I think if I'm going to sell on Amazon then I need to sue the Amazon Fulfilment service, not just use it like ebay where I still do the shipping and processing and charging.I do sell on ebay because I've always sold stuff on ebay and it's pretty easy.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: August 07, 2016, 11:44:05 pm
content: Quote from: TwoOfFive on August 07, 2016, 03:19:24 pmI accept Bitcoin for payment on my website.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: August 07, 2016, 11:45:37 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on August 06, 2016, 12:16:19 amYes, I can see a big advantage in having Amazon do the fulfilment.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 12:32:51 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 07, 2016, 11:42:41 pmI suggest you do not sue Amazon, but try and work with them. I would call Amazon (try 702-868-4825) and discuss having the manufacture ship directly to them (I think Las Vegas on the West Coast). Very little physical work on your part and this will reduce shipping costs.FYI as a US consumer I end up using Amazon the most. I do check around and even if Amazon is a few dollars more, I usually use them because it is so damn easy and I usually put together a shopping cart. I even check them for used stuff before ebay. Ebay is always my last choice.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 01:07:24 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on August 08, 2016, 12:32:51 amToo late for the current shipment, 600 have just landed in the country.

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 01:19:07 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2016, 01:07:24 amYou should try talking to them. Its important to ask them about international shipping when it comes to fulfilled by amazon. within the EU it is actually much easier.Things that are fulfilled by amazon usually can take a while before they are available at their warehouse. For example some ECC ram took them a month as they had no stock in the EU at one point. Selling stuff on ebay is easy but selling stuff on amazon can be cheaper if you take advantage of what they have.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 01:35:56 am
content: I'm going through the process now of setting up a new amazon seller account (my current account is a personal one)I need to follow the rules here:https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/seller/registration/participationAgreement.html?itemID=200404870&language=en_USBut no showstoppers so far, and I have to use a broker to import the goods into the US (I have a broker, will need to talk to them).Ongoing...

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 01:36:53 am
content: I don't know much about this stuff but if it were me I would probably ask someone like Martin who from memory had an Amazon store long before he moved to the US from SA, there may be hurdles that he encountered which might be avoidable given the experience.Martins Amazon Storehttp://astore.amazon.com/m0711-20/161-2688403-1170522

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: August 08, 2016, 01:38:32 am
content: Just passed the automated phone call pin number setup, that was nice and instant.Tax wizard setup time...

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: August 08, 2016, 01:45:34 am
content: And my favourite form, the W-8BEN-E !Thankfully I know how to do this because someone else figured it out:https://www.tillett.info/2015/06/20/how-to-complete-w-8ben-e-form-for-australian-companies/But Amazon have a short form version of it online which looks really easy!EDIT: They accept electronic signature!Too easy...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 01:52:54 am
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on August 08, 2016, 01:36:53 amThat's just an affiliate store, I've had one of those for years:http://astore.amazon.com/eevblogstore-20Anyone can do it, Martin doesn't lift a finger to do that, he just promoted the link and that's it. Affiliate store are very different to selling your own stuff through AmazonI get an 8% or so cut on every product sold, and they pay me by bloody annoying cheque

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 01:56:36 am
content: Wow, I'm done.I now have a business Amazon seller account and and am ready to sell, that was the easiest most seamless process I have ever encounteredThey have now given me links to use the fulfilment service.My products will need barcodes though, I'll have to print those.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:02:08 am
content: First HurdleWhen registering for the Brand Registration system I need to upload product packaging photos that have my brand on it. I have plain white packaging...

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:09:13 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2016, 01:56:36 amOh no! It will be like destroying an antique.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:14:01 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2016, 02:02:08 amSomehow I don't think the 'No Bullshit' packaging idea will go down too well......Did you have any ideas on packaging design?

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:25:28 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2016, 02:02:08 amProblem fixed:

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:28:35 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 08, 2016, 02:14:01 amWe'll find out...

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:31:42 am
content: OK then....Will be interested in the reaction.

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:37:17 am
content: Given some of the things you can find on Amazon, I'd be rather surprised if they had a problem with this, at least over the use of "bullshit".

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:40:20 am
content: But that's the subtlety of the design .... it doesn't actuallysay"bullshit". There's no "hi" - just the 'Dave hand'.

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:43:19 am
content: Well yes, I was leaving out the obvious part that it doesn't even really SAY "bullshit" at all.I'd buy a t-shirt that has the "No Bulls<Dave's face and hand>t" logo on it.hint.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:47:38 am
content: Quote from: rrinker on August 08, 2016, 02:43:19 amSubtle.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 02:56:20 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2016, 02:02:08 amThere are some good graphic artists on this forum. Maybe they would do this for a meter (personally autographed).FYI not a good idea but a lot of Chinese sellers just copy each others photos, it drives me nutsWhere are the packing photos herehttps://www.amazon.com/Volmate-Digital-Voltmeter-Ohmmeter-Multimeter/dp/B00TWTLWT8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1470622366&sr=8-3&keywords=multimeterTake a look at other meter sellers, I cannot find any. I think this is some sort of option that you need to fool. Take a photo of everything in the box and call that the "package" photo. Or hell just take a picture of the white box. Or put a sticky of your logo on the box. I hope you do not go through the expense of designing and printing a new box.I guess this could be for the fullfillment center to help identify your meter. If this is the case maybe large stickers on the box would work. This requirement might kill the manufacture to Amazon direct link unless you pay them to put on the stickers. Now I will pay attention to the boxes products come in.I just added the above meter to my cart to see what kind of box it comes in. But it will be weeks before I order it. If I were you I would start a new topic and ask what type of boxes items come in. I just never thought about it. But I think my cheap meters all came in a graphic box, I always assumed it was because they were being sold on the local Chinese market. I never guessed it was something the folks at Amazon needed to identify the box.I think the only "plain" boxes are items sold as "bulk" or eco friendly packing, look for options around this. What a pisser. I hope you can come up with a low cost solution.How about just a blue box with your logo on it, seems this would not cost too much? Think how they would look from the bottom if they were stacked on a shelf. Some graphic design work is needed I guess. The more I think about this the more I think you need a complete graphic box. I hope this will not be a deal breaker.FYI seems the voting is about equal between yes, no, and I am a shit headBut I have 54 thanksI am surprised at the number of "no"s.You could ask for graphic design recommendations in a new topic. ( a contest with used equipment as a prize ?)One more last idea, selling your meters in graphic boxes may open up new markets. Maybe local Chinese will start selling them. If blueskill is reading this, maybe he can give us his thoughts. Putting your meters in graphic boxes allow them to be sold in a store. I think blank white boxes would cause the police to question them.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 03:14:26 am
content: Another reason for a bit more design to go into the packaging is product differentiation.Branding is one thing, but if you end up with a number of products, you should have something clearly identifying the contents of each package.So, as a minimum: Brand, barcode and product identification ... such as "BM235 multimeter".How fancy you want to go with that is another question.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 03:23:07 am
content: As I understand it, a full-on graphic design solutionfor the packagingis done for the purpose of advertising and attracting interest of the over-the-counter shopper.Colourful images and listed specifications work for the box in the hand - but aren't reallynecessary(I don't think) for online sales. Would be nice, though.If you want to explore the idea, I'd be happy to take any ideas offered and see if I can put together some images for discussion....What do you think, Dave?

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: August 08, 2016, 03:33:05 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 08, 2016, 03:14:26 amI don't, it's a waste of time.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 03:51:28 am
content: Fair enough.Also answers the question on graphic packaging.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 04:05:04 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2016, 03:33:05 amI agree, keep it simple. Sometimes packages have graphics so crazy you cannot tell what is inside.Maybe just logo, model number, bar code. If more fancy then picture of the meter.

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 05:48:39 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2016, 02:02:08 amI thought you would've preferred a head shot on your packaging/product.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 05:56:48 am
content: Quote from: System Error Message on August 08, 2016, 05:48:39 amThat is his logo

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 07:09:24 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2016, 02:28:35 amand...Quote

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 07:10:28 am
content: "brand packaging" - they would have been fine with a close up of a logo on the meter, and you would skate under the radar.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 07:12:20 am
content: Quote from: System Error Message on August 08, 2016, 05:48:39 amEver since I was a kid I always my head on a multimeter like Tricky Dick Smithhttp://static.ipaustralia.com.au/store3/2/84/284993.1.high.jpgBut ultimately it just looks lame and unprofessional. I've got the head inside the holster on my new custom multimeter.

author: Brumby
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timestamp: August 08, 2016, 07:21:15 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2016, 07:12:20 am.... and it's been done before.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 29, 2016, 12:48:39 am
content: FYI, I've set up a Amazon seller account and will be trying out the fullfilment by amazon system, about the send some meters today to test the system.Also FYI, it costs US$20 each to sell through amazon, $4 of which is the fulfilment and stocking charge, ouch, more expensive than ebay.Currently it's rather silly to ship from Taiwan to Oz then back to the US, but I have stock.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2016, 01:29:30 am
content: Nice solution to the package and bar code. I now pay attention to these details. I just got a bottle of something that is made in the US and they have printing on it but no bar code, so they had to add a bar code sticker (over the instructions).Dave, will this qualify for free shipping in the US (with min $49 order)? Just curious if this is something you have control over. I wonder if I will save that $20What will it be listed at?Let us know when you go live (I suggest a new topic)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 29, 2016, 01:50:37 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on August 29, 2016, 01:29:30 amI had control over that when I had it set up for fulfilment by me, a huge list of shipping rates I could set for various US destinations and carrier types etc.Haven't fully looked into it yet now that Amazon will do the shipping, but I can't find anything at present. So I presume that it's just like any other regular Amazon fulfilled product.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2016, 02:11:41 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 29, 2016, 01:50:37 amSo I guess free shippingAlso I suggest you try and protect your name with Amazonhttps://uedata.amazon.com/Mens-EEVblog-Negative-Feedback-T-Shirt/dp/B01EYV7RME/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472436422&sr=8-1&keywords=eevblog

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 29, 2016, 05:38:19 am
content: Like the graphic.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: September 03, 2016, 12:26:00 am
content: I seems 30 meters made it though customs to the amazon address.Now to see how quickly they add them to the inventory, and if any trouble there.Should be as I put the custom barcode sticker they generated on the side, and each meter box has the unique product barcode

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2016, 01:44:27 am
content: Dave might need Cynthias reinstatement deal when Amazon decides to shut him down after reading Eevblog!Jeff Bezoz should be in jail!https://onlinesalesstep-by-step.leadpages.co/reinstatement/

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2016, 03:32:37 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 03, 2016, 12:26:00 amIt seems Amazon has several places, what state did you send them to?

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2016, 10:38:15 am
content: There are a dozen or so. Sometimes they will even ask you to split the shipment up to different locations.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2016, 12:14:13 pm
content: Coming soonhttps://www.amazon.com/EEVblog-BM235-Brymen-Multimeter/dp/B01JZ1ADCO/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1472904752&sr=1-1&keywords=eevblogWho will be the first reviewer ?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 05:38:50 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 03, 2016, 03:32:37 amThey shipped to Joliet, ILI didn't have a choice in that, it's just what they gave me on the shipping label.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 05:40:45 am
content: 30 unites received and processed! (you get an email)But not available for sale just yet it seems:QuoteI used the more expensive EMS courier option, no customs hassles it just worked. Will try the cheaper Pack & Track next time.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 05:54:06 am
content: Available to order!

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: September 05, 2016, 06:18:04 am
content: Yep, available to order now!https://www.amazon.com/EEVblog-BM235-Brymen-Multimeter/dp/B01JZ1ADCO/I have no idea which countries, I did enable the worldwide fulfilment option but I'm not sure how that works exactly yet.Takes a few days before it's actually marked as in stock ready to ship immediately. Presumably they need to ship then to different distribution centres?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 06:27:42 am
content: This is what it costs (presumably not proprietary info?):

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 08:04:51 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 06:18:04 amFYI Dave: Tried to order it with shipping to Germany and got this message:"Sorry, this item can't be shipped to your selected address.Learn more.You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order. "The "learn more" link above points to:https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=topnav_help?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201505270&pop-up=1

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 04:41:26 pm
content: Dave, are those costs for all 30 meters or for each meter? I was led to believe that amazon takes less of a cut than ebay.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 05:36:22 pm
content: For me, selling small items on ebay/paypal is around 12% However, I am the one who has to deal with the packing and shipping hassle.

author: vulturebetrayer
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 07:00:40 pm
content: I sell on Amazon for a living. I wouldn't recommend FBA unless you have a LOT of inventory and need to see it go no matter what. The monthly FBA space rental is simply not worth it for a few items.To give you perspective on why my company uses FBA; we ship around 200-300 units a day in FBA with another 200-600 (depends on season) in organic shipping.I can't see a reason to use FBA for only 30-40 items, it's just cost prohibitive.

author: vulturebetrayer
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 07:04:58 pm
content: Quote from: System Error Message on September 05, 2016, 04:41:26 pmAmazon takes less of a cut if it's not FBA. Once someone pays to have items sent and stored in Amazon's warehouse, it tends to get pricey quick. Also, ebay gets cheaper the more you sell. For instance, my company pays a monthly fee for bulk listings on ebay, due to this we can list thousands of items cheaply, but the up front cost is very high (if you were to only sell a few items for instance). Basically you can list lets say 5000 items for 100 bucks a month, which is a pretty good deal, but if you only had 40 and paid that it wouldn't be so good. (just generalized numbers btw)

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 08:04:30 pm
content: Quote from: vulturebetrayer on September 05, 2016, 07:00:40 pmDon't forget the meters are not stocked in the US. Dave could ship each one but that would be more work for him and more dissatisfaction from customers (shipping time).Occasionally I miss the origin of the product and find it comes from China and get pissed every time. Ebay and Aliexpress I expect to come from China, Amazon I expect to come from the US (I know now to look carefully). If I see it comes from China then I try Aliexpress.I can see this happening with Dave's meter and piss off the customer (long shipping time)and may get a bad review because of this.For me in Calif the meter is within $1 of the cost from ordering from Australia BUT not including taxIn the future I think Dave could have the meters shipped from the factory reducing his cost. And by the time Dave comes out with his new meter, he will have all this worked out.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 09:38:25 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on September 05, 2016, 06:30:28 amPile is the old word for battery. Some programmer at Amazon still thinks it's relevant.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 09:41:08 pm
content: Quote from: vulturebetrayer on September 05, 2016, 07:00:40 pmYou are from America, I am not. It costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time to ship from Australia. Majority of my sales are in the US, and people love the Amazon next day shipment. It costs $4 extra to have to stored and shipped by Amazon, I just posted the cost breakdown.As for the 30 units, I was just trying the system, so I just shipped one box as a trial, I wasn't going to ship 300 and then find there are customs or some other hassles etc. Remember, I am a foreigner sipping stuff to and selling on Amazon, the rules are entirely different to local US sellers.Heck I don't even know yet if the payment system is going to work for my international bank account.

author: Skimask
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 09:45:53 pm
content: https://www.amazon.com/EEVblog-BM235-Brymen-Multimeter/dp/B01JZ1ADCO/Do you still get a cut off the Amazon link?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 09:52:27 pm
content: Quote from: System Error Message on September 05, 2016, 04:41:26 pmThat's for each meter. Around 18% of the sale price. It might be different for local US sellers, I don't know. $4 of that is the fullfilment and packing fee. If I shipped it myself then it would only be 15%. But in either case that's a little bit more than ebay (IIRC 10% ebay + 2.2% PayPal)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 09:55:11 pm
content: Quote from: Skimask on September 05, 2016, 09:45:53 pmIn theory I would get an extra 8% cut if you use my Amazon affiliate link! forgot about thatSo yeah, this link:http://amzn.to/2cCartyThat would work because I have separate business and personal accounts.

author: Skimask
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 09:56:55 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 09:55:11 pmDone...and...<click>...done...

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 09:59:59 pm
content: Two positive reviews and #1 new guybefore it goes on salehttps://www.amazon.com/EEVblog-BM235-Brymen-Multimeter/dp/B01JZ1ADCO/Dave once they go live, I suggest you make a video about this. You will get more views than this post, after all look at the number of people who think I am full of shitFYI After several years of using Amazon I have returned one item. It was a bad battery. Amazon immediately gave me a shipping label and a location where to take it. The location was a liquor store near me and I went in and stood in line of 4 people. The clerk saw the package in my hand and asked if it was an Amazon return and he took it from me without me waiting in line. Easy as pie.I wonder how Dave will handle returns if there any? Ship them back to Australia ? He may want to work with a forum member to repair them (if there are any to be repaired), or toss them?People of other countries should remember that some US people (like me) like to order from Amazon because of the fast shipping and easy returns. Something from any other country does not meet fast shipping or easy returns. So Dave should make more sales, winner in my book.

author: Muttley Snickers
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timestamp: September 05, 2016, 10:02:41 pm
content: You might need to create a guide as to where people are best directed to purchase the meter depending on their particular region or location as pointed out previously, for instance I wouldn't use Amazon and would be better served buying one locally from Ebay if I didn't already know about the web store.Also here is a first potential customer to test the system, a member who was chasing one.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/sub-$100-dmm-recommendations/msg1019191/#msg1019191

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: September 05, 2016, 10:58:32 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on September 05, 2016, 10:02:41 pmMy ebay store is mainly just for people who have no clue who I am or my web store exists, just people searching for Brymen meters or what-not.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 11:00:46 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 05, 2016, 09:59:59 pmI just ship them a new one. It's the cost of doing business.QuoteThat's the idea, I know the power of Amazon, and America is my biggest market. Well, tied with the EU if you include all those countries.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 11:01:23 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 05, 2016, 09:59:59 pmThat's pretty sweet, I didn't know you could review stuff without ordering it?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 11:03:17 pm
content: Why can my Amazon Seller account pay me by direct deposit into an OZ bank, but the affiliate program still must use cheque? (which is beyond bloody annoying)

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 11:05:58 pm
content: Yes, you can review things on Amazon without being an actual purchaser, but it does mention in there somewhere if you actually purchased the item or not - "verified purchase" it says under the headline and reviewer's name if you actually bought the product on Amazon.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 11:29:36 pm
content: Wow, when you search for Brymen some other meters have 600+ reviews

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 11:33:54 pm
content: 11 units sold already. Guess I'd better ship some more today.I take it on faith that Amazon will pay me, and that's they'll actually ship these things in a few days once it's available internally.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2016, 11:49:42 pm
content: I'd also better try and figure out exactly how much I'm making on each unit. It's complicated given that I buy them from Brymen in USD, so currency conversion losses there, ship to Oz, a zillion import charges, local shipping to me, then I ship to Amazon, then I resell in USD and amazon take their 18% cut which then needs to be converted back to into my AUD bank accountYes I will talk to Brymen about shipping to amazon directly, but it won't be trivial, and there could be import and customs issues. Brymen currently will only ship direct to the port in the country, I have to arrange customs clearance and local shipping through a broker. It could be similar in the US.And FYI, it's pretty cheap to ship to Oz, it actually costs more to get them custom cleared and through the port than it does to actually have them air shipped.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 12:21:08 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 11:49:42 pmYep, I just ran the numbers and it's still very viable for me to sell through Amazon just the way I am.Of course I make more if I sell and ship directly myself (I save the US$22 amazon + $6 shipping fee), but that's part of being on Amazon, similar to ebay.Shipping direct from Brymen to Amazon will save a bit, but the bulk of the loss is the amazon + FBA fee.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 12:40:30 am
content: I better get mine before you figure you need to raise the price

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 12:46:44 am
content: Oh, BTW, I'm also getting a custom EEVblog branded pouch and the magnetic hanger and will eventually offer them for sale as well.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 12:50:27 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 06, 2016, 12:40:30 am*price subject to changeLooking at the kinda equivalent Fluke 117, that's $177 on Amazon.And the Greenlee DM510A (BM257) is $166 and that doesn't come with the premium leads.DAMN, Iamselling it too cheap

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 02:59:14 am
content: So you type Brymen into Amazon and my meter is the only product with Brymen in the title yet it shows up on page two of the results?

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 03:11:29 am
content: why not have brymen ship direct to amazon? See if they accept amazon payments so you could pay from your amazon account to them directly. that would cut out you as the middleman, well in terms of cost. Make sure they get the packaging right.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 03:49:35 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 06, 2016, 02:59:14 amI just ran it. Sure is on page two, that's the nice way of putting it. What you failed to mention is it was also the LAST meter shown!! Even after the UT61E!Give it time.Anyway, good to see you up on Amazon.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 04:09:22 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 11:49:42 pmCan you do some kind of transshipment, so the goods don't actually get cleared into Australia, but remain outside customs and get shipped back out of the port and onward to the USA? That would avoid the import charges.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 04:15:05 am
content: Quote from: IanB on September 06, 2016, 04:09:22 amThat's a possibility. I might be able to get my broker to re-ship them. But I'd have to get Brymen to apply the barcode labels on each box, and I'd have to ensure the broker puts on the correct Amazon labels that I would have to give them. It gets tricky.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 04:17:56 am
content: Quote from: System Error Message on September 06, 2016, 03:11:29 amI explained that above, it's not as easy as you might think.QuoteI don't have an amazon payments account, and no they don't accept amazon payments anyway, only TT into their Taiwanese accounts which I have to do via a separate currency broker.All this stuff sounds easy until you have to actually do it...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 04:21:27 am
content: 60 more units on their way to an unnamed building in Juilot ILhttps://www.google.com.au/maps/place/250+Emerald+Dr,+Joliet,+IL+60433,+USA/@41.4828279,-88.0732276,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x880e646a864d0a53:0xea1af84ec7486dca!8m2!3d41.4828279!4d-88.0710336

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2016, 04:30:33 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 06, 2016, 04:21:27 amJust down the road from the drag strip. Are you selling Top Fuel meters?

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 08:29:08 am
content: Looks like 'Jace' in the UK is not happy with his meter, well I suppose he never bought one to begin with!I had a look at his other reviews he is certainly spreading a lot of bad mojo around.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 08:57:10 am
content: Looks like a our favorite banned member is back!There is only one person who keeps on harping about the EEVblog forum doxing people every place he is able, and that is non other than Mojo-Chan, who of course deliberatelydoxed himselfon this forum and then try to claim it was others

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 09:07:46 am
content: Proof that "Jace" is Mojo-chan.What a loser.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 09:25:38 am
content: Interesting how Amazon displays his user name as Mojo on some screens.

author: VK5RC
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 09:26:03 am
content: Pretty sad really re M-J C, not much to do in his life I suspect: move on M-J C.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 09:36:06 am
content: Quote from: Towger on September 07, 2016, 09:25:38 amNot the first time he's tried to hide his username.For example, he's been on a constant mission to have my Wikipedia page removed but is not succeeding. He changed his wiki username to try and hide who is is, but it was trivial for someone to trace him.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:David_L._Joneshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/%E3%82%BC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AD/Archive

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 01:19:46 pm
content: Quote from: Pinkus on September 05, 2016, 08:04:51 amSame here for Switzerland.Does anyone know if Fulfillment by Amazon enables the AmazonGlobal program, where Amazon handles customs ("Import fees deposit")? Amazon's customs handling is far cheaper than Swiss Post, which charges you a fee of anywhere from $15-35 just to calculate the 8% VAT that you owe…

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 01:24:28 pm
content: Quote from: tooki on September 07, 2016, 01:19:46 pmNot by default. There was an option for me to enable this once I set up my account but it doesn't seem to have done anything obvious for me yet, and people outside the US say they can't buy the meter, so not sure what's going on there.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 02:18:20 pm
content: I wonder what happens if you enable that option. If it works, it reduces customs costs for me *massively*.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 08:07:54 pm
content: Quote from: tooki on September 07, 2016, 02:18:20 pmWould it still be cheaper than ordering from Dave? I am surprised people from other countries want to order from US Amazon .Also are you able to order any meter? Just wondering if there is a restriction on meters.

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 10:53:31 pm
content: well the more overhead cost you can reduce on getting your meters and products around the better.It seems like this mojo guy is jealous or something?

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2016, 11:59:20 pm
content: Quote from: System Error Message on September 07, 2016, 10:53:31 pmI forgot, does anyone remember why Mojo got so pissed off?

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 02:56:07 am
content: What did I tell you. In one day you meter is now the first one that shows up in the search. Good job!

author: TheSteve
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 03:02:53 am
content: Only 3 left!

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 03:18:11 am
content: Why does that tube amplifier get linked to EEVBlog amazon seller ?

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 04:29:39 am
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on September 08, 2016, 02:56:07 amDave I suggest you make your picture like the others so it can be more easily compared to them, ie a head shot not angle. It would be easier to compare with the Greenlee

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 04:35:19 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 07, 2016, 08:07:54 pmYes, Amazon won't ship anything like that to Australia.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 04:36:48 am
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on September 08, 2016, 02:56:07 amSomething happened with the search indexing.Even searching for "BM235" of which mine is the only one showed up last behind many other meters.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 04:37:50 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 08, 2016, 04:29:39 amI like the side view, looks much better IMO. You can see any detail on the thumbnail listing anyway.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 04:54:13 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 08, 2016, 04:37:50 amDid you see Reply #111 ?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 05:01:57 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 08, 2016, 04:54:13 amYeah, there is (was) 3 left. Your point?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 05:22:18 am
content: Now it says 1 left.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 07:03:24 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 08, 2016, 05:01:57 amNothing to do with the number left. It was the way they look from a search

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 07:22:40 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 08, 2016, 07:03:24 amOh, I looked at the wrong message number.I don't want to look bland like the others.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 07:23:41 am
content: So they are now sold out, but it's showing "In Stock"Sure I have 60 more on the way and the Amazon system knows this, but they haven't arrived to their warehouse yet.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 08:15:54 am
content: No listings for this on UK Amazon, is that expected?

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 09:33:51 am
content: It is giving me a 10% discount now. No shipping to Ireland, which is to be expected. Our electronics recycling laws add an extra 50c (tax) charge, so Amazon has given up selling electronics to here. BTW The advert could do with some more technical specifications and if possible a link to the manual pdf?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 09:49:05 am
content: Quote from: StuUK on September 08, 2016, 08:15:54 amYes, i think I have to open an account on Amazon UK website and ship products separately there. PITA. The Amazon sites around the world really are treated very separately.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 09:53:34 am
content: Yep, I have to enabled this global selling (which I thought I did on another page somewhere), but does seem possible in the UK. Don't know how they handle FBA stock though...

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 10:11:12 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 08, 2016, 09:53:34 amquote from amazon: Send your choice of products to an Amazon fulfilment center and we’ll store your inventory, pick, pack and ship it EU-wide when customers orderI guess the implication is that they deal with it...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 10:28:42 am
content: Quote from: StuUK on September 08, 2016, 10:11:12 amI hope so!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 10:31:39 am
content: Yep, when I go click on Register Now it takes me to amazon.co.uk to create and account there

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 10:33:17 am
content: Double

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 10:38:26 am
content: Wow, i can't even use the same name

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 10:41:07 am
content: Looks like they are going want my passportI didn't have to do any of this crap to set up an Amazon US seller account.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 10:52:02 am
content: I enabled international shipping on my FBA account some days ago, but it doesn't seem to have worked

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 10:56:01 am
content: Wow, doesn't seem to be any way to transfer/copy my US products over to the UK site

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 11:00:51 am
content: And looks like I have to manually set up bank accounts and listing for each EU country separately

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 11:15:15 am
content: Yep, seems as though I have to not only set up separate listings from scratch for each countries website US/CA/MX/UK/DE etc, but I have to send product to each countries distribution centre separately as well

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 01:08:38 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 08, 2016, 11:00:51 amNot according to amazon....Fulfill orders from all 5 Amazon marketplaces (Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.de, Amazon.fr, Amazon.it, Amazon.es)Export to millions of customers acrossEurope with a single seller account & one local inventory poolAmazon takes care of customer service in the local language and handles returns

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 01:20:44 pm
content: Quote from: StuUK on September 08, 2016, 01:08:38 pmSounds like there's a question to be put to Amazon.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 01:35:46 pm
content: Quote from: StuUK on September 08, 2016, 01:08:38 pmAnd where dos it say this?The system does not seem to work this way at all.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 01:38:29 pm
content: https://services.amazon.co.uk/services/fulfilment-by-amazon/features-benefits.htmlhttps://services.amazon.co.uk/services/fulfilment-by-amazon/unified-account-and-efn.html/ref=as_uk_fba_sellineut2

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 01:40:51 pm
content: I guess it's down to setting up the account in Europe...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 01:45:44 pm
content: It gets better!Quote

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 01:57:19 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 08, 2016, 01:45:44 pmNSA watch list is not included, just answer no:-) BTW this is for money laundering regulations.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 02:02:38 pm
content: Glad they qualified what a politically exposed person was... after all we're exposed to political BS everyday.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 02:16:18 pm
content: You never know. Dave's late father father might be an ex Minister for Finance who had has 43,000,000 in a bank account!

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 02:19:51 pm
content: Quote from: Towger on September 08, 2016, 01:57:19 pmAnd sanctions checking...

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 04:56:29 pm
content: Dave, as you are shipping the meters out of country after adding local value ( the barcode, the Amazon sticker), you might look at getting either a waiver on duties, or a refund of the duties paid, as you were only transshipping them, and were not selling locally. Those you sell in Aus/NZ will still be taxed full rate, but you might at least drop the duties you pay, or at least move them to your US store customs entry point.

author: Kuro
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2016, 05:47:49 pm
content: Quote from: German_EE on August 06, 2016, 01:33:12 pmEuropean Distributor? Where?Nothing in Dave's store about that.I can get the 235 pretty cheap from Germany, but it's not blue, and boringly tagged "Brymen" instead of "EEVblog"

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 12:18:57 am
content: Quote from: SeanB on September 08, 2016, 04:56:29 pmYep, need to look into that.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 12:20:04 am
content: So I tried to get those fake Negative Feddback T-Shirt taken down, because I have registered EEVblog as my trademark with Amazon and it's been approved, but it's like extracting teeth. Not a very good infringement system.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 12:30:27 am
content: Quote from: Kuro on September 08, 2016, 05:47:49 pmJust be aware that it won't come with the blue holster, nor the high quality silicone probes and attachments, nor the increased LCD contrast which I believe is specific to the build of my meters.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 01:50:01 am
content: DaveI suggest you write a better description, you have plenty of room. Look at some of the other meters. Two things I like to look for and find it hard to find are min ohms and min current. I have to look at the spreadsheet. So I suggest you take some of the facts from it and include it in your description.An idea for a video is do a training video on your meter based on the manual. IE go through the instructions and expand on them in a video. Do not leave anything out. I think it would increase your sales and have a lot of views. There are things in the manual I am not sure of. Start at page 1 and go page by page to the end. I bet a lot of people would learn something because it is a good manual. And you would have the only meter that comes with a training video (again a bonus for sales). I can imagine it being used in a classroom environment like a school if it has a training video on it.Also change your link to the manual, it goes to the web page and from there someone has to search for it. Someone even here asked for a direct link.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 05:00:02 am
content: So it want from the last meter in the Brymen search to the first in one day and then to not showing up at all in another day!

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 06:10:53 am
content: He's back.Earlier review is nowhere to be seen - but there's a new one ... with a bit more poison:I could ask what IS this guy's problem ... but it's not worth discussing.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 07:00:52 am
content: I just got two emails from Amazon saying two units have shipped. Not sure about the others! Seems I have some sort of notification on by default.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 07:06:16 am
content: Ok, this is weird. I go to the orders page and it only shows 3 orders for the last 14 days

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 07:07:03 am
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on September 09, 2016, 05:00:02 amIt's now finally realised they are out of stock and the product has been set to "inactive"

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 07:07:53 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on September 09, 2016, 06:10:53 amThat's the same review as before, I didn't know it was taken down.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 09:18:20 am
content: I am looking at the date - plus there was a comment before that is not on this review.While the basic review details are the same, I don't recall mention of doxing before... or did I miss that?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 09:26:57 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on September 09, 2016, 09:18:20 amIt was there.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 11:29:34 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 07, 2016, 08:07:54 pmIt's that Swiss Post charges a hefty fee (between about US$15-35, depending on their mood and the phase of the moon) just to calculate the 8% sales tax owed on it. Amazon itself has the ability to act as its own customs broker, and they charge you a *maximum* of the sales tax due. (They estimate it at time of purchase. If the estimate is too high, they issue a refund a month or two later. If they underestimate, they eat the difference!!)On this meter, which with shipping from Dave in Australia costs about US$125, the Swiss Post will end up adding another 20-40% to the price.In contrast, if Amazon says it'll cost me, say, $140 shipped, then that's all I'll pay, end of story, no surprises.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 04:13:55 pm
content: How can I delete the "poll" it is totally meaningless

author: Skimask
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 09:47:32 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 09, 2016, 07:00:52 amI can say at least one of them shipped...

author: Kuro
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2016, 10:05:58 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 09, 2016, 12:30:27 amI know. Unfortunately, when I order direct from down under, I'll support your for a few dollars, and some parasites at the border for over 50 (import duties and 21% sales tax). I can get an 867 for 20 EUR more, shipped.If you ever make it to Amazon.co.uk, or Amazon.de (since Brexit soon, according to some fish-n-chips sellers) I'll definitely have a look.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 10, 2016, 02:21:54 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 09, 2016, 09:26:57 amApologies, then.However, I was still curious about the date posted ... I had a feeling the review was there before this. There was a comment, however, that called them out - but that has gone.I was wondering if Amazon removed the comment or our 'friend' deleted the review and re-posted it, removing the comment.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 10, 2016, 04:18:28 am
content: Quote from: Skimask on September 09, 2016, 09:47:32 pmI'd love to see how they pack it.

author: Skimask
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2016, 05:43:13 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 10, 2016, 04:18:28 amI'll take note and post an unpack of it.

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 10, 2016, 06:56:15 pm
content: Quote from: Kuro on September 09, 2016, 10:05:58 pmThey didn't charge me a cent when I ordered one from stralia

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2016, 07:08:10 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on September 10, 2016, 02:21:54 amProbably removed and reposted, the sad troll is like that. The actual reasons have most likely been removed from the Google cache by now, as the pen carries on writing, but the paper is finite. It was Christmas last year that this occurred, you would think that the little troll would have gotten a clue by now, but he probably is still sitting in his dingy ( obviously he is not paying the bills, his long suffering parents or the state are, of course) basement, eating junk food with grubby hands, tossing the empty crisp packets onto the rest of the pile on the floor, and whining about how unfair it all is and that he is always right.

author: Kuro
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2016, 09:51:51 pm
content: Quote from: jancumps on September 10, 2016, 06:56:15 pmLucky b*st*rd as they say down under I believeAnything over 20 EUR including shipping gets processed, but we both know how efficient our government services can be.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 11, 2016, 02:06:39 am
content: Quote from: Kuro on September 10, 2016, 09:51:51 pmYour understanding is 100% correct.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 20, 2016, 11:03:08 pm
content: Confirmed, I get a commission if people buy through my Amazon affilliate link:

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 20, 2016, 11:10:12 pm
content: Quote from: German_EE on August 06, 2016, 08:08:37 pmSo does Ebay.You can jack up the price to compensate and customer will pay it because:a) It's no more expensive than getting it shipped from Australia (which costs $20).b) They trusts Amazon and have an account with them alreadyc) They get it quickerd) They don't have the use PayPal (some refuse to use it), and don't have to trust the credit card to another site.e) Amazon is a massive market in it's own right, it will translate into extra sales.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 12:02:53 am
content: Dave can you delete the poll - it has become meaningless and I tried and made a mess of itGlad the Amazon thing worked out.Do you know how often the meter takes AC readings?thanks

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 01:16:54 am
content: didn't need another meter, but what the heck. my prime account gets me this meter next-day with no tax. can't argue with that.clicked on the referral link, hope dave got credit for it.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 01:20:37 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 21, 2016, 12:02:53 amDon't worry about the poll. I've not looked at it with any interest for some time - and I don't think anyone else is too worried - except maybe yourself.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 01:22:22 am
content: Now that's just nasty.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 01:56:14 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on September 21, 2016, 12:02:53 amNot off-hand.However fast the chipset used can do it.Thsi is not a great meter for AC work, it's only got 2.5KHz bandwidth.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 02:45:08 am
content: Thanks for getting rid of the poll

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2016, 10:46:37 pm
content: I'm trying to figure out how to do discount/coupon codes on Amazon, is that even possible?

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2016, 10:52:24 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 13, 2016, 10:46:37 pmSure!https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=200798610

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2016, 10:51:15 pm
content: Can't you use bonding to hold your meters?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonded_warehouse

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 02:28:03 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 13, 2016, 10:46:37 pmFor Black Friday ?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 08:59:54 am
content: Got my first Amazon refunded order today.No details about why or how, nothing, just says the money was refunded to the buyer

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 05:03:19 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 15, 2016, 08:59:54 amSo it must have been from the ebay buyer. This is really a sad situation. Can you find out who it was shipped to? I have had sellers contact me when I returned a product. If they do not answer you then probably a scam.Can you sell on ebay and have them shipped from Amazon? Charge just enough to cover your expenses and undercut the other ebay sellers. Looks like you have to play the same gameif you cannot get them removed from ebay.

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 05:08:24 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 15, 2016, 08:59:54 amWhat happens to meters returned to Amazon? Do you need an agent in the US to inspect them?

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 09:05:53 pm
content: Quote from: edavid on November 15, 2016, 05:08:24 pm- they are resold- no inspection needed - if there is a faulty one then it would be flagged as faultyDifferent if faulty.It was returned for money (the buyer found a cheaper one) thus no explanations

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 09:25:01 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:53 pmI don't see how that could be true. If the buyer says the meter is faulty, is there really someone at Amazon's return processing department who is qualified to inspect it?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 09:27:22 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on November 15, 2016, 05:03:19 pmI know who it is and have asked them why it was returned. Looks like a legit Amazon order to me.

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 09:36:06 pm
content: Amazon will take anything back for just about any reason, and they pay return shipping. The the buyer could have easily just decided they wanted to spend the money on something else. I've also had two occasions where i received a used item, where some a-hole swapped new for old and sent it back and nobody bothered to look/notice.

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 10:10:14 pm
content: Quote from: dr.diesel on November 15, 2016, 09:36:06 pmLouis Rossmann had the same problem with Amazon, so he raised his prices. Speaks about it quite a bit in his videos.Ebay won't be any better - all you have to say is it's counterfeit and the seller virtually has no legs to stand on and the same goes for unrecorded/unsigned deliveries.Some people may buy several different meters and then decide which is more suitable and return the others. Wouldn't worry about it in all honesty.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 10:14:07 pm
content: Quote from: dr.diesel on November 15, 2016, 09:36:06 pmWho is they ? The seller or Amazon ?

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 10:16:35 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on November 15, 2016, 10:14:07 pmAt least with Amazon Prime, Amazon pays for return shipping. Amazon even sends a UPS guy over to pick it up.

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 10:19:42 pm
content: QuoteProbably an american 'Toploser' buys piles of returned Amazon stuff in unknown condition for a low price then and sells it.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 10:59:05 pm
content: Quote from: Pinkus on November 15, 2016, 10:19:42 pmThat is not the point of the question asked.The question relates to vetting the returned item - not what happens afterwards.