Anyone member of radiomuseum.org ? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Roman
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 18, 2013, 09:56:32 am
content: Like the title says, is anyone a member there?I would like to get the schematics for my Telewatt HiFi Mischverstärker E 60 but membership costs 25$, and 25$ for 5 pictures seems a bit much to me.

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2013, 10:31:00 am
content: Your not going to find anyone here to steal it for you.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2013, 11:07:36 am
content: Quote from: dr.diesel on September 18, 2013, 10:31:00 amUnless radiomuseum own the copyright (fairly unlikely in the case of old service data), I don't see a problem with this request.

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2013, 11:16:20 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on September 18, 2013, 11:07:36 amIt's against their TOS I'd imagine. Not that It really bothers me much it's still a one post guy, too cheap to spend $20, just hoping he can scam somebody into sending it to him, then off he goes.Kinda like if I were to sign up, copy their website to my own, and offer it for free.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2013, 11:19:10 am
content: Quote from: dr.diesel on September 18, 2013, 10:31:00 amThey don't own the copyright on the schematics either...But try fiddling with "protect-path.cfm" and its parameters. I got a few 404s and some files, the rest is up to youP.S. if the Chinese wanted schematics for that device, they'd be able to get them for sure.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 18, 2013, 03:49:50 pm
content: They may very well have the rights to that particular scan, even though they don't own the schematic.

author: ElectroIrradiator
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2013, 08:30:10 pm
content: Quote from: Roman on September 18, 2013, 09:56:32 amYep.Quote from: Roman on September 18, 2013, 09:56:32 amDid you pause to consider, that the sole reason radiomuseum.org has that particular schematic, is that the members have invested huge amounts of time and other resources to scan an absolutely gargantuan number of classic schematics? Radiomuseum.org is not a web shop, but a community, the resources of which is what you gain access to for your $25.

author: rexxar
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2013, 01:29:39 am
content: Quote from: ElectroIrradiator on September 18, 2013, 08:30:10 pmIt's not as if $25 is an entirely unreasonable price for a single schematic, either. And you get a whole hell of a lot more than just one schematic for your money, too.

author: jh15
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2013, 04:20:34 am
content: I joined last Spring (I think I was a member long ago when it was free, I think but expired).I had to jump big hoops to Submit some diagrams for old Grundig radios they didn't have, but I learned a lot:They make you learn to make a very high res, corrected, sized, contrasted, and lastly a really small filesize Using the freely available Irfanview photo editing tools.The small file size is contrary to how you can really zoom in without pixelation.The one-time 25.00 gives you a limited download quota, but watch out! Just poking around the schematic on the page eats your quota when you enlarge it. Be sure to just download it, then see if it is correct.They give a high ratio of downloads for your contribution. That can be a schematic, (worth many points), or just a picture of your unit, under chassis views, etc. even if someone was before you with a pix of your model.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2013, 05:55:50 am
content: Quote from: Roman on September 18, 2013, 09:56:32 amWell, thanks for letting me know it exists. Fascinating site.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2013, 11:25:49 am
content: I've registered on quite a few "upload to download" sites before, and would've gladly done so here and uploaded a bunch of schematics (downloaded from somewhere else of course) to get what OP wanted if it weren't for requiring personal info, and this most backwards method of registration:QuoteBut as they say, those who aren't very good with computers, aren't good with their security either

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2013, 11:45:51 am
content: I tried to join last year. I offered a number of service manuals and schematics that they do not have and that are not available elsewhere on the internet (I purchased them at great cost).the membership process was so anal that I ended up calling it a day and not bothering to jump through all the hoops they set before me. I was trying to be helpful to them. Life is too short !They chased me for a while to complete the process but I got a bad feeling about the whole set up so never responded. The Boat Anchor archive, and the like, are more deserving of my time so I gave them the documents instead.

author: szoftveres
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2019, 09:31:20 pm
content: I'd recommendelektrotanya.comThey let anyone to download a limited number of manuals (5/day) without having to join. If you join and start uploading, you'll get more downloads. No payments or weird member approval process.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2019, 10:14:40 pm
content: I think I came across them some years ago when searching for some manuals for an old Sony 80's tuner but I found it somewhere else after searching.I didn't seem to trust them and spent some time searching for it from free sources.

author: @rt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2019, 01:44:10 am
content: I wonder if they’ll happily accept your photos and schematics, while a the same time charging yourself and others to download them.If you can’t “buy in” with information they don’t have, I’d certainly endorse having a member grab something on someone else’s behalf.

author: bsfeechannel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2019, 08:50:07 pm
content: Quote from: ElectroIrradiator on September 18, 2013, 08:30:10 pmDo those $25 go to the people who invest huge amounts of time and other resources to scan this absolutely gargantuan number of classic schematics?

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2019, 11:08:15 am
content: Please be aware you re reading and responding to a six year-old thread.

author: bsfeechannel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2019, 02:32:40 am
content: Mine is a six year old question.I never understood the logic behind the restrictions imposed by the radiomuseum.org. If someone else took the trouble to scan old schematics, do I need to comply just to show appreciation?

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2019, 05:04:30 am
content: I'm not sure about why they operate in a closed fashion either. I wasonce considering trying to join, but the idea of giving them my private phone number and sending money to theirSwiss bank accountsmade me feel very uneasy.The best reason I have been able to findis regarding spam:QuoteThis doesn't, however, explain whyreadaccess requires membership. Feels dodgy.Information should be shared freely, not paywalled.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2019, 05:37:18 am
content: If anything, it's a site that deserves to get hacked wide open and everything ripped/shared/uploaded elsewhere... but those who could probably do it aren't interested. "Old radios" is such a narrow niche.You might be able to social-engineer your way in, but once again those who have the skill don't have the interest.