2020 Moto RAZR - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Homer J Simpson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2019, 05:33:22 pm
content: Anyone checked out the new RAZR ?

author: maginnovision
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2019, 06:34:52 pm
content: Pass. I was a long time holdout for real keyboards on phones, and now I'm a holdout on the goofy aspect ratios. When I can't get any other than 21:9 or whatever I'll consider these goofy things.

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2019, 06:41:11 pm
content: I like the idea... I used an old RAZR back in the day... I still have it, in working order, battery lasts a long time, durable and tough. Obviously the old RAZR was not a "smart phone", but it did the task. Now while I can still turn it on, it probably has limited functionality as there are no apps I can add, and it likely won't even connect to the cellular network.Fast foward to the NEW RAZR. Exciting to see a foldable phone that seems to have worked out some of the kinks that initially killed the Samsung Fold. It has the potential to be a KILLER phone.... However it's no old RAZR. Apart from the name, and similar kind of look/design/style, it has a few big issues that we have yet to deal with:- durability of display, dust issues and creasing- cost is prohibitively high for mass adoption- battery life is no-where near what old RAZR had (of course we are comparing apples to oranges)Morotola is obviously banking on the success of the RAZR brand. The old RAZR was an extremely popular phone. Thin, cheap under $300 (free with most basic cellular contract plans), it competed the heck out of other flip-phones at the time. The NEW RAZR is a "premium" or I would argue "super premium" cost space... at $1500, sure it's cheaper than the Samsung Fold but that is still sky high. Do you really think people can justify that cost just because of the display fold?Even the most expensive iPhones and Samsungs (without fold) are cheaper and would beat the RAZR on pure hardware and performance specs alone. I am not certain that the "fold" display itself is enough to sway people away from more trusted durable time-tested faster phones out there that are cheaper.I would wait a few generations and a few cost reductions before embarking on this folding origami madness.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2019, 10:00:11 pm
content: It’ll break like a 1980s lunch box hinge after a few months or when someone gets some crap in the hinges.It doesn’t actually give you anything over say an iPhone XR sized device either other than more wallet buggery.Edit: also Motorola support and repair is fucking abysmal in the UK. It’s literally cancerous it’s that bad. They send it to a third party repairer which employs an army of lowest bidding trolls with opposable thumbs to try and bugger it up and blame it on you rather than actually repair it.Edit 2: it’s just fucking “splash proof”. My XR is IP67 (toilet and sink proof). Christ what a rip off for a novelty.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2019, 10:05:19 pm
content: The photo of the one I saw on the BBC News site looked pretty crappy already...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50414612

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2019, 10:06:33 pm
content: Ugh that looks terrible.

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2019, 04:24:29 am
content: I just pulled out my old Razr V3c from my basement bin, plugged it in... booted in 3 seconds and I was looking at my old contacts, photos, videos and other data. Battery is completely toast, but it doesn't need one to work (unlike BlackBerry's which require a working battery to turn on).Turns out it is a 850/1900 CDMA 1X and in Canada (and probably most of the rest of the world) this network was discontinued starting 2017 and finally completely pulled the last plug in my Region April 2019. I'm surprised actually they had it around that long! I believe mine is from 2007. So my RAZR is now pretty useless but an interesting relic from the past. Only 12 years old!

author: pardo-bsso
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2019, 12:17:44 pm
content: I like more my Ericsson R306.Does not connect to the cellular network anymore but the am radio and camera work like a charm.

author: eti
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2019, 04:46:08 am
content: Just an average, bland Android phone with gimmicky "new fandangling" bolted on the end, and sold at prices that reflect the incredibly immaturity & pointlessness of foldable OLEDs. The world is full of foolish people with more time and money than sense. Leave them to it; as with spidget finners, this stupid fad WILL... WILL die, you wait and see.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2019, 07:35:23 am
content: I'll pass on the foldable thing, I would be absolutely shocked if they ever work out the bugs and get something that will really hold up for several years of frequent use. I'm gonna hope my iPhone SE holds up until the trend of absurdly huge phones starts to swing the other way toward miniaturization again. The SE is pretty close to the perfect size.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2019, 10:00:25 am
content: Quote from: eti on November 16, 2019, 04:46:08 amFidget spinner is the best analogy I’ve seen so far

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2019, 05:23:01 pm
content: I would rather have an individual two screen design (with a small gap inbetween) that folds over the other than a single folding one that over time may bend/break over use and possibly look like a razor went through went it snaps in half.

author: eti
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2019, 02:59:19 am
content: Quote from: bd139 on November 16, 2019, 10:00:25 amhah!Yet, the factor that separates a spidget finner and these grown ups' toys, are that children at least have ZERO awareness or concept of having to perpetually "justify" the ownership of their playthings to their peers; they pick up a toy, play with it for a few weeks and then throw it aside and move on. Adults are (deep delusion) supposedly "wiser" and yet, spend almost TWO GRAND on a poxy phone...Being able to afford such an item IS NOT related to it being a wise use of resources and income. It's a TOY; why can't people just admit that? A ridiculous joke toy, and "Motorola" are laughing their socks off at the schmendricks who queue up for it.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2019, 03:31:39 am
content: Ultimately I doubt a whole lot of people will buy this thing, at least not the first gen thing. It will be those who simply have to have the latest new toy and have more money than they know what to do with. I'm betting the displays are going to be plagued by problems within a few months of going on sale, the product will end up cancelled within a year.

author: eti
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2019, 03:44:02 am
content: Quote from: james_s on November 17, 2019, 03:31:39 amThey're REALLY wringing every penny they can out of the "retro" nonsense, exploiting gullible/stupid people's nostalgia for GENUINELY GOOD PHONES, and luring them in under the pretence that they're in ANY way the same. My Dad has the new "3310" and the new "8110"; both are crud - the 3310 is a generic Nokia toy "candy bar" phone, sold at a HUGE nostalgia-exploiting markup, and the 8110 runs a pared-down version of Android... oh, sorry, "KaiOS" -_- and is equally garbage. The ONLY revival type device I own and enjoy, is the "NES Classic Mini" - it works well, looks VERY nice and runs perfectly.The REAL Nokia went down the pan, as the inept management ended up caring more about shareholders than in-house engineers and their views, and actual innovation. There was a BBC documentary all about it, and it made for rather glum watching at the end:

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2019, 07:24:27 pm
content: Quote from: edy on November 14, 2019, 06:41:11 pmYeah, it wont connect. I can tell you for sure that in the USA AT&T network in the northeast. I was looking for something else and came across my old RAZR, I liked that phone so much so I tried it again with my SIM card (and drove along the highway for about 40 miles / 80 round trip in north-central New Jersey - no go. It was no go "occasionally" (tower depended) a couple of years back. I was hopeful since I no longer visit the area that it used to fail. Now it is pure dead air anywhere along 40 miles stretch of highway...My old RAZR is unlocked, but I no longer have a working T-Mobile SIM to check.Plans exist to sunset G3 as well. I moved to my current ZTE flip phone during AT&T's last network upgrade. My ZTE may die with their next upgrade...

author: Black Phoenix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2019, 02:58:10 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on December 04, 2019, 02:25:16 pmExactly, there aren't that many manufactures of Foldable LCD Screens in the market, so they all come from the same places more or less. Folding Screens is just a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, a way to show something different out of the normal CPU, Screen size and camera resolution/number of cameras/zoom of said cameras common refreshes.