Has the agilent x series obsoletized some of their other lines? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: jstkatz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 08, 2011, 10:45:48 am
content: I'm looking at the mso-x 3000 line and I'm having trouble seeing any way that they are inferior to the mso 6000 line. I'm thinking bang for buck it is dead obvious but does anyone know of any features present in the 6000 line that isn't in the x 3000? If no features are there any other reasons? I'm thinking the 6000 line will have more expensive everything because it was a more expensive line, but is the build quality better or ui better or anything like that?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2011, 12:04:13 pm
content: There are a few minor differences, one being the battery power option on the 6000.I think that some of the 6000 options like FPGA dynamic probe and some more obscure protocol decode options are not available on the X series.Screen resolution is also a bit higher.

author: Armin_Balija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2011, 03:51:16 pm
content: If anything I feel like Agilent just completely monopolized the entry level market with the 2XXX and 3XXX scopes. I mean honestly, at that price point, it's hard to compare.

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2011, 07:58:31 pm
content: I think they've created a new market only they occupy, which is great. Below it are all the basic DSO China label scopes such as Rigol's 1052e.

author: 0xdeadbeef
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2011, 09:17:52 pm
content: There's at least Hamegs HMO line in the same price range and apart from the wfs/s, the HMO scopes seem superior to the X2000 in about every aspect (especially record length, math functions). Indeed they stand up well to the X3000 line which is quite a bit more expensive, especially if you take into account the features that the X3000 lacks which the HMO scopes already support (e.g. mask test, serial decoding).Generally I must admit that I don't like Agilent scopes since they tend to be crippled in aspects that you wouldn't expect. E.g. the 8k€ Agilent scopes we have at work are crippled in DC measurement accuracy until you buy an upgrade. That's silly and you feel tricked if you need to pay Agilent to get back the performance that they crippled deliberately. If you take into account that kind of trickery, I don't think Agilent scope are really competitive.

author: jstkatz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 09, 2011, 02:00:15 am
content: has anyone seen reviews of the competing Hamegs?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 09, 2011, 02:21:33 am
content: When I first saw the pre-release data that's exactly what I thought, and I asked the question of Agilent.Yes, the 3000X obsoleted several lines, including the 6000. They only kept the 6000 because it has a battery powered option, and few other niceties. But the main reason is the battery power.Dave.

author: jstkatz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 09, 2011, 03:21:34 am
content: Deadbeaf,I agree with your sentiment but it looks to me like serial decode and triggering for the hameg is an extra $450 and I think the wfps is something tiny like 2-2.5k compared to 50k to 1meg for the agilentsIt's too bad they have to cripple the agilents in some ways because it seems like otherwise there is no comparison in that class

author: 0xdeadbeef
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 09, 2011, 06:24:24 pm
content: Quote from: jstkatz on November 09, 2011, 03:21:34 amAt least until end of this year, the option HO011 is for free. And yes, the wfs/s is slow compared to the Agilents, but honestly this doesn't really matter for me and other stuff like record length and good measurement features is much more important to me.BTW: some (not so in depth and German only) review with a few pictures of the inside of an HMO:http://www.all-electronics.de/texte/anzeigen/43872/Serielle-Datenanalyse-an-I2C-SPI-und-UART-RS-232

author: aparlett
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 10, 2011, 07:53:24 am
content: Ive been tossing up between the same two scopes.Thanks to Dave's video, I'm getting the function gen and student pack for free, It was expired by 3 months but they said they will honor it on the Agilent scopes.Are you a student?I think one thing that's making me lean towards the Agilent is the fact that you can upgrade the bandwidth, not to mention the function gen, they both look like awesome scopes.