EmoPulse digital bracelet ??? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: notzippy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2013, 10:40:37 pm
content: From out of nowhere using brand new OMAP 5 processors and a flexible display comes the EmoPulse...http://igg.me/at/emopulse/x/1733288Coming to some world in Oct 2013Nz

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2013, 10:49:17 pm
content: Who names this shit?

author: madshaman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2013, 11:56:48 pm
content: Cool, can it function as an emo pulse generator? What's the rise time?

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 12:07:51 am
content: About five seconds, emos aren't known for excitability.

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 12:12:08 am
content: Hmmm, let's see...- 100% CGI in the video- No information on the technology or the actual device, just all the awesome things it will do- No information on the creator and why they will be able to pull this (gigantic) feat off- Ridiculously low funding goal- Flexible funding, so they get your $$ no matter what- Soliciting people for product about 5-10 years more advanced than everyone else at a price a fraction of everything similarLooks legit! What could possibly go wrong?

author: lemmegraphdat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 02:04:52 am
content: Quote from: Corporate666 on June 19, 2013, 12:12:08 amIf they got a time machine then why bother with this shit?

author: uprightsquire
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 02:18:25 am
content: October 2013 delivery date...

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 02:19:40 am
content: Quote from: uprightsquire on June 19, 2013, 02:18:25 amReally?...really?Bahahahahahahaha

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 02:22:50 am
content: In the comments they say they have a working prototype. But no sign of such a thing in their main spiel, just renderings. Sounds like they have been studying the MuOptics playbook.

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 02:23:47 am
content: Is there actually a production-available flexible LCD on the market?

author: senso
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 03:28:27 am
content: I have read articles about mono-chrome á lá e-ink(aka slow refresh rate and ultra low power) made in some US university for the US Army funded by Darpa or something like that, now full color with that kind of resolution...

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 04:44:27 am
content: 100% scam.

author: uprightsquire
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 08:54:35 am
content: Other 'projects' by the 'founder':http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanoglassraised $125 closedhttp://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanoglass-4-emopulseraised $250 still open

author: Legit-Design
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 09:45:07 am
content: Looks like it has one of theseMaybe they have made their prototype with one of those.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 07:18:40 pm
content: I'm not sure Samsung is making production quantities of those though. I heard they had major issues with display uniformity and lifespan due to it being so thin.

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 08:06:53 pm
content: Quote from: Legit-Design on June 19, 2013, 09:45:07 amI am pretty sure those LCD's are not in production yet - either limited or mass. I read an article from a few weeks ago that Samsung was experiencing problems and were working with some new vendors who were hoping to help them solve it... and that LG was working on a flexible display and they expected it to be available sometime in 2014, and it would be the world's first flexible and commercially-available display.I cannot understand why IndieGoGo allows this type of shite on their website. This guy was looking for a minimum $300,000USD of money, but he chose "flexible funding", so the poor dozen-or-so saps who dropped $500-1000 are all going to lose their money. They will in turn go out and badmouth IGG to everyone and will never use the site again. So IGG is creating dozens of unsatisfied customers just to get a few % of impossible-to-implement projects?

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 08:13:46 pm
content: Quote from: Corporate666 on June 19, 2013, 08:06:53 pmGreed.QuoteAnd rightfully so. IGG has it coming.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 09:22:56 pm
content: Crowdfunding has genuine applications and genuine results, but the success rate is low. By failing to weed out projects like this, they only make crowdfunding less and less attractive for real projects which generate real results.

author: notzippy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 10:53:08 pm
content: Totally agree, there are a few good gems on indiegogo but stuff like this just taints the experience for everyone.Nz

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 11:16:00 pm
content: Quote from: Bored@Work on June 19, 2013, 08:13:46 pmI don't think they think they are being greedy. I think it's more of a doe-eyed naive sense of "let the people be empowered". If you look at this EmoPulse project, it will probably end up around $10k funding. IGG will get maybe $500-600 after CC fees. But one or two people could easily account for $500 of funding to other projects, so it's a no-brainer that they need to protect the investors/users, not the project creators. So I don't think it's as simple as greed. Maybe a big dose of laziness.QuoteTrue.And it seems to be a baffling display of idiocy and complete lack of forward thinking to exercise even the most cursory review over these projects - *especially* technical ones.Where EmoPulse stumbled is the classic problem of the salesman (or conman). They promised so much that everyone realized they can't deliver. Same with Orsto. Mu was just enough ahead of the curve to be semi-believable. The others are promising Star-Trek gadgets and are utterly non-credible.

author: lemmegraphdat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2013, 11:33:59 pm
content: Could a display be laid up like tires are, some kind of conformal coating, layers of material?

author: CanadianAvenger
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2013, 12:47:30 am
content: Quote from: Corporate666 on June 19, 2013, 02:23:47 amFlexible to the point of being integrated, but not operationally flexible were introduced a couple of years back, and we should expect to see products based on them anytime now.Operationally flexible displays were introduced in the past year, and we probably won't see anything based on that tech till next year.But yes they are possible, and just around the corner in consumer products.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2013, 04:30:54 am
content: Quote from: Corporate666 on June 19, 2013, 11:16:00 pmAny action they would take would eat into their cut not once but twice. They would lose their cut from the projects they weed out and it would cost them time/money to actually weed out bad projects.By the way, at least two of the three Indigogo founders, Ringelmann and Schell, have an MBA. The third, Rubin, visited an MBA school, I couldn't figure out if he actually finished. They aren't art hippies.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2013, 09:30:04 am
content: I am assuming 128Gb and 256Gb are supposed to be 128GB and 256GB. I don't see that fitting in solid state memory in something that small - not unless you have no space for a battery, processor, main board, etc. Plus 1,000,000 units available. Umm, yeah.Quote from: CanadianAvenger on June 20, 2013, 12:47:30 amI can flex an LCD.It might not work so well after I have done so...What is the point of a display that can be integrated but not operational while flexed? Am I missing something?

author: Legit-Design
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2013, 09:44:05 am
content: Quote from: tom66 on June 20, 2013, 09:30:04 amI think he meant maybe it can be flexed once in manufacturing, into curved display like in this project. But if you look at their videohttp://vimeo.com/48023748#they dont flex anything. The display is already curved into the rigid case. So based on these comments, its possible with current technology to make something similar to this.Most of the actions they showed on their video can already be achieved with rfid chips and wireless payment systems. So they only need this display, that is in rigid case and you can do video calls with.All crowdfunding sites should do it like kickstarter.No hardware projects without functional prototypethat has the main features. If they would agree with basic common sense rules, crowdfunding wouldn't have such a bad name.

author: fcb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2013, 12:06:11 pm
content: This is an interesting one to call on.For1. All the technology currently exists.2. The bulk of the software development can happen without a prototype.3. The packaging size appears realistic (if ambitious).4. There appears to be significant real thought in the design.Against1. Supply of the flexible display is critical (without explicit backing from a huge name at the moment).2. Flexible funding - does not inspire confidence at all, 1e6 available!!!??3. Ambitious price tag.4. Ridiculous time-scale (Oct 2013...)My guess is that it's a genuine (but misguided) effort, and probably launched inspite/despite the failure of the previous 'nanoGlass'www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanoglassproject. It's also possible that it has been done for the publicity - it does look more like a little like the output of some design student trying to get noticed by {insert corp here}.That said, the flexible funding and Oct 2013 delivery make it whiff.

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 29, 2013, 11:57:53 pm
content: UPDATE:Was just checking on the latest IGG smart watch scams, and noticed the EmoPulse was removed and seems there are virtually no references to it (the IGG campaign) anywhere.Anyone know what happened?

author: fcb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2013, 10:14:26 am
content: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23587448