Australia, explain yourself. - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: bitslice
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 12:24:04 am
content: Technically this is a topic of almost zero Electronics content,however, how many forums do you know with Australians on them?Now, to run with a common stereotype, I've always thought of Australians as a bit like Yorkshiremen wrestling crocodiles while surfing.However, it appears someone is letting the side down.http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/school-life/school-bans-clapping-and-allows-students-silent-cheers-or-air-punching-but-only-when-teachers-agree/news-story/cf87e7e5758906367e31b41537b18ad6“Instead of clapping, the students are free to punch the air, pull excited faces and wriggle about on the spot."This is the sort of Politically Correct shite that is running rife in my country*, tbh I expect more from Australia.Dave, sort it out please.*http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/24/feminist-conference-says-clapping-triggers-anxiety/

author: ludzinc
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 12:34:20 am
content: (Hangs head in shame)I tend to get in trouble at the kids school when I stand up against this sort of stuff.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 12:55:56 am
content: Well in my circumstances I'll guess and say that the reason there are not many Australian people on other world wide forums might be because they get kicked out or chucked out (that's in my personal circumstances) , all the time too ..Its that PC world i suppose , FULLASHIT!Even just announcing the above as a opinion would be enough for a banning by those neurotic anal opinion police (in where it might not be a opinion either) that are soooooo superior and i might also type more than just slightly insane nerdburglars , imo of course ..

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:04:24 am
content: Decisions like this are just complete and utter bullshit/bollocks and the majority of the community agree. This particular school/decision is being ridiculed on talk back radio.I believe the world as a whole is getting dumber.

author: Dave
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:07:20 am
content: QuoteThese people teach kids.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:11:16 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on July 21, 2016, 01:04:24 amIts always been dumb imo , now it's says it's smarter as it does not want to be really seen as it is , at least the British decided to do something about it lately and never mind the supposedly cost now that's being smart (no knock intended or meant as i mean it too)..

author: HackedFridgeMagnet
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:14:48 am
content: Just a few points.Remember the media is full of garbage so take anything they say with a grain of salt.This seems to be a school decision and there was probably some reason to bring it in and I am sure the parents have had some consultation on it, and it can just as easily be changed if it is that bad.Parents can move their kids to a different school if it is such and issue.Quote from: Halcyon on July 21, 2016, 01:04:24 amIf it is true then at least the school has the freedom to make a small decision like this. This is much better thanallschool policy coming from the government.From my experience I think the kids of today are a lot further ahead, socially and educationally than when I was at school.I remember seeing physical fights almost every day, open racism, teachers ignoring merciless teasing and harassment, people who couldn't read at all ... etcIt is hard to measure but if anything I think the kids these days are smarter not dumber.

author: GEuser
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timestamp: July 21, 2016, 03:35:25 am
content: This will be true , i'd like to type just wait and see but its to late .

author: Brumby
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timestamp: July 21, 2016, 03:43:25 am
content: Quote from: GEuser on July 21, 2016, 03:35:25 amI have seen that ad on TV recently.I, too, got a cold shiver running down my spine.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 03:50:05 am
content: Then there was the time , i was waiting for the lift to turn up on the 3rd floor of a large hospital , 3 large 2 door lifts 2 had large Blue signs saying "Public" the other one had a extra large sign in red Staff only with large stickers on both doors saying public do not use this lift only for hospital staff and emergency's .So up the corridor walks a female with 3 kids ranging from 3 to 8 years old , it was texting on the mobile phone , walks straight up to you know what lift and presses the button and not even looking up from the phone .The kid that could obviously read looked at the signs and then looked at the mother then back at the signs then back at the mother whilst it was still at it texting , i could hear it calculating and i could see the kid probably thought "i better shut up" , lift turns up , they all go in whilst there was 3 or 4 people dressed in all blue/whites/gowns and headscarfs (hospital people) already in the lift , the mother still did not look up from the phone , doors closed , i laughed in disbelief on the comedy i just saw ... someone could have died .

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 03:59:21 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on July 21, 2016, 03:43:25 amYes its funny i reckon , the ads take the piss out of people but i wonder if they really understand that those people are actually out there , i notice heaps of that type of thing like the time 2 females pushing pushers with babies in them , mothers had sunnies on , hats and the stuff to protect them from the sun , the pushers had those fold-able roofs yet were folded back , the babies were in direct sunlight and both were trying to cover there eyes with hands , at midday direct sun over head , and the list could go on and on and on and on and on ...

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 04:04:08 am
content: Quote from: GEuser on July 21, 2016, 03:50:05 amHere in the States that behavior is so common that the staff elevators are keyed to RFIDs in the staff badges, and the call button requires a swipe from the badge. Sorry commentary on folks. Also guess who will be screaming to high heaven when staff is delayed getting to their loved one.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 04:04:53 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on July 21, 2016, 03:43:25 amOh my god.Whenever I try to enable that on my phone it gives an error lol

author: DTJ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 04:11:51 am
content: It gets better, this week an expensive private girls school on the east coast of Australia banned the female students being refreed to or called girls or woman. Apparently it may offend any LGBTI students.I'm not certain but I figured LGB's would still technically be women or girls. Perhaps they should rename the school as its no longer for "girls".http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/school-life/calls-for-intervention-over-sydney-girls-school-gender-neutral-language-policy/news-story/37c0d140a109d9c6a592b1a80ec0af6eI get a laugh every time I hear an Aussie politician refer to us (Australia) as "The Clever Country".

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 04:25:03 am
content: I sometimes feel we are heading towards being "The special country" - with buses to match.

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 04:59:01 am
content: Quote from: DTJ on July 21, 2016, 04:11:51 amOoh me, me me! My missus is a teacher here in the UK, and they have been told they are not to use "gender specific term", so no girls and boys.... I shit you not....

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 06:08:58 am
content: Gee whiz. I wonder what they would have thought of my high school maths class.The text book we used had numerous exercises throughout and was renowned for incorrect answers in the back. When the exercises were set, the boys did a, c, e, etc. and the girls did b, d, f, etc. There was one boy (me) and one girl who were doing the top level maths and we each coordinated the answers from our respective gender defined groups and reported back to the teacher. Basically, we were correcting the text book.

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 06:24:23 am
content: Sounds like the school has ASD students who are particularly noise sensitive and they are doing a small thing to help them.I don't see a problem.Especially as the teachers have indicated it's working well on a general level as well as for the ASD ones.Frankly, I'd have expected a more positive tone from the EEVBlog Forums, which probably has more than it's fair share of people who could identify as being on the spectrum.

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 07:33:37 am
content: ...Stop the planet, I want to get off.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 08:04:50 am
content: Quote from: daqq on July 21, 2016, 07:33:37 amAnd me

author: VK5RC
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 08:30:16 am
content: Aren't schools supposed to be preparing you for the world, loud noises including applause is widespread. I suspect that sooner or later the science will come out, like with peanut allergy, where lack of exposure is a significant contribution.

author: Dataforensics
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 08:43:32 am
content: The local primary school has a policy that when pupils are walking or traveling outside during school hours, that they wear high visibility jackets. I can just about accept that when they are walking beside busy streets. But I would rather they were encouraged to look out for dangers and take care of themselves.However I found it farcical to see them all still wearing them in the local park while playing sports. Perhaps it is so they be seen and not heard!!.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 09:54:33 am
content: Quote from: VK5RC on July 21, 2016, 08:30:16 amThis concern is why I haven't been overly critical or supportive - much like 'grading on a curve' isn't a particularly robust educational process, IMO.I'm all in favour of eliminating elements of society which are unnecessarily discriminatory, but some of the things I've come across are just ridiculous.Political correctness is turning out to be its own worst enemy.

author: apis
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 10:16:41 am
content: I believe that, technically, only Elizabeth II can speak on behalf of Australia. And I don't really understand how Australians can be expected to explain decisions made by other people they have no relation to except living on the same continent?warning, irony: Or maybe it is supposed to be something special in the Australian culture and therefore something all (and only) Australians understand and are doomed to repeat in eternity since culture apparently never change!? /irony

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 10:47:28 am
content: Quote from: HackedFridgeMagnet on July 21, 2016, 02:14:48 amI think it's a case of a couple of squeaky wheels who have read up on SJW safe space terminology getting their way.QuoteI would.QuoteAnd they will rightfully get ridiculed for it.QuoteNot with bullshit like this. We are breeding a generation of kids who can't handle anything.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 10:48:48 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on July 21, 2016, 09:54:33 amYep, the entire modern PC movement will eventually implode.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 10:56:11 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on July 21, 2016, 08:37:44 amNo one outside Australia will get that

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 10:58:48 am
content: Back in my day we played British Bulldog everyday up until they banned it, a decent character building game that also sorted out the weeds in the paddock, it did me no harm and I had a thing for nurses anyhow.

author: HackedFridgeMagnet
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 11:22:20 am
content: Ok here is the latest.Quotehttp://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/misrepresentation-of-quot-clapping-ban-quot-story-in-mediaHere is a link to the original newsletter, which seems to have been pulled as it gives a 404. Can anyone find the original?http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/cmsresources/elanora-heights-public-school/misc/2016/7/ehpsconnect_t3w1_1468910975501.pdfI think there is a lot of overreaction to this and some of that is from this forum.Why use a primary source when you can get your info from something as reputable 'The Australian'.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 12:24:14 pm
content: Quote from: AcHmed99 on July 21, 2016, 11:35:53 amSledgehammer to crack a nut! why does the teacher concerned just elect to use appropriate hearing protection, there are plenty of discreet devices! What happens when said teacher leaves work... FFS the world is nuts!!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 12:28:35 pm
content: Quote from: HackedFridgeMagnet on July 21, 2016, 11:22:20 amSame thing different smell.Anentire schoolof hundreds of students has to stop doing something so basic and fundamental so thatone teacheris not inconvenienced by it. Yeah, that makes sense.How about the teacher go inside during assembly if it's an issue? Ear plugs perhaps? Plenty of options.Surely this teacher would be used to this sort of thing and be able to take measured to avoid it?QuoteWhat a bunch of knobs.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 12:39:35 pm
content: Well, it is a good gesture, but one of my teachers (the one with simillar hearing problems) would have said thank you but there's no need, i'll just wear earplugs with a smile

author: ajb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 12:47:15 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 12:28:35 pmYeah, what a bunch of wankers for electing to modify their behavior so as to avoid aggravating a colleagues disability.Seriously, if you think the decision was silly, fine, but mocking a group of people for being considerate of someone with a disability makes you look like an asshole.When I first saw this I thought maybe they had a number of students on the autism spectrum. Loud noises can be extremely stressful to people with autism and other conditions, so it becomes a choice between asking students to refrain from making loud noise, or further ostracizing students with special needs from the general population. It's generally better for everyone to avoid ostracizing anyone, so I think it would be a great step to make assemblies more hospitable to the entire student body. It's actually becoming more and more common for theaters (movie and live) to schedule special "sensory friendly" performances where the sound level is turned down, house lights are kept low but not off, special effects are toned down, etc, to better accommodate people with sensory sensitivity issues, in much the same way that they schedule sign language interpreted performances for hearing impaired. I'm rather proud to have worked with one of the companies that pioneered such inclusive performances; and now some broadway and big touring stage shows are following suit.

author: HackedFridgeMagnet
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 12:53:54 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 12:28:35 pmWasn't my statement. I was quoting from school, hence quote tags.Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 12:28:35 pmBad hair day?The only people who seem unhappy about what they are doing are people not involved.What is so hard about not clapping at assembly? Is it Ok to clap on Anzac Day, or in a quiet carriage on a suburban train?Maybe there's just a lot of knobs in Australia.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:01:59 pm
content: No assholes in Australia , only Arseholes , and opinions are not always associated with them either .But it makes one wonder though if the hearing sensitivity was a later thing for that teacher , yaknow kids= noise =school=multiplied by heaps , if it already had a sensitivity what a career choice , as previously mentioned though why not wear earmuffs and stop looking like a neurotic poor me do what i want because i have a problem so stfu theme .Reminds me of a current affair story on truckies , a female (oh not again now I'm really anti female , sorry sue) car driver explaining in the car driving that she was really really scared of big trucks/semi's/b doubles and in that I'm special very scared tone and does'nt want to die actually said that "she" thought it would be good if trucks were not on the road and implied a banning "because she was scared" so everyone has to cop what it wanted .Imo of course .

author: DTJ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:17:37 pm
content: Quote from: GEuser on July 21, 2016, 01:01:59 pmAssholes / arseholes are not things to be picky over but the pronunciation is important too;Aussies - arrrrr - solesOthers - assss - holes

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:24:31 pm
content: Quote from: apis on July 21, 2016, 10:16:41 amHa Ha , the real irony is here is not Sweden , no offense meant , as i do not understand how you imply that assuming (or is that assimilating) other peoples decisions its big time wrong .

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:30:59 pm
content: Quote from: DTJ on July 21, 2016, 01:17:37 pmatttt - goles , i sure don't pick over them or at them Ha Ha Ha , anyway since daves in here i better tone it down , i generally presume generally he's looking about somewhere else in the forum and I'm safe .

author: bitslice
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:57:33 pm
content: Quote from: sleemanj on July 21, 2016, 06:24:23 amI don't want to be a dick here because I have Autistic family and work with the same, but this does vary a lot, some ASD kids wander around clapping all day, some only react to entirely unexpected noise.Had the school stated this was the reason, then maybe OK, but really they just wanted to accommodate a single teacher.Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 10:47:28 amExactly, this is why decisions like this are dangerous,If we accommodate an individual by changing the behaviour of the majority, we are distorting how things happen in real life and thus the development of any coping mechanisms.This is then one step away from changing the behaviour of the majority because someone is "offended".Behind issues like these is a cynical political theory that actively seeks to create victims out of these individuals - which then requires the State to protect them via legislation - this then becomes an over reach of State authority and a co-dependence on that State.Nobody gains political power by staying out of your life, they do it by becoming a symbiotic part of itIt might superficially look to be progressive, but really idiocy like this is only empowering a mass of useful idiots and creating Generation Snowflake.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:13:29 pm
content: Quote from: ajb on July 21, 2016, 12:47:15 pmBeing considerate is one thing, but when doing so involves impactinghundreds of others, especially when there are surely much simpler alternatives thatdon'tinvolve impacting hundreds of others, it's clearly a ridiculous choice.I'm putting myself in the shoes of the affected teacher. Personally I wouldn't want nor expect hundreds of others to modify their behavior just to suit me, I'd deal with it myself. But that's just arsehole me talking

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:27:41 pm
content: Quote from: HackedFridgeMagnet on July 21, 2016, 12:53:54 pmRidiculous analogy.Peopledoclap at assembly, it's one of the things you do at assemblies, theydon'tclap at those other events because it's not appropriateNowhundreds of peoplehave to stop what was an ordinary, regular, and expected event just becauseone personcan't deal with their issue some other way.It's like I stop saying something or stop doing a regular thing in a video because one viewer has a problem with it, so everyone else has to miss out.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:31:18 pm
content: In Sweden the socialist government have invented a new term "hen" as to make people gender less, a replacement for saying he or she.The government has also changed the constitution so all men have to sign a declaration that they either are fully feministic or adore feminist views.Im not jokeing, you tough AU was bad! Ha!Norway have recently started t implement hen.

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:31:53 pm
content: Australia isnt the only country that tries silly things. I wonder if anyone watches china uncensored. The UK and even EU also tend to try and implement silly rules like UK's plan to block all porn, Boris claiming the NHS would get £350M if the UK quit the EU.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:32:56 pm
content: Quote from: MT on July 21, 2016, 02:31:18 pmThis can't be true, surely?

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:34:14 pm
content: Yes indeed! here is the new sign for it!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:36:04 pm
content: Quote from: MT on July 21, 2016, 02:34:14 pmI meant the constitution thing.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:37:13 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 02:36:04 pmHow can you force people to sign such bullshit.... so I guess freedom of speech is out then.....

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:38:36 pm
content: Freedom of speech has been done away with almost every country around the globe.

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:54:26 pm
content: Pah, Glasgow has been using "hen" for decades!It's not a gender neutral term though...

author: magetoo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 03:15:04 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 02:32:56 pmNo, it's not true. The part about the new pronoun is - we already had the indefinite(?) pronoun "den" for someone in general (similar in flavor to "they" in English) - and some people are trying to get people to use "hen" as the corresponding more specific form. Sorry about messing up the terminology, but I'm sure people here get the general idea.It's not a government initiative as far as I know, just linguists/activists/etc. Not a terrible idea eitherin principleand some other languages have a word like it, but it just feels off; it stands out and looks awkward whenever I see it in print.Most people seem to think the same, judging by how rarely you see it used.

author: FuzzyOnion
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 03:20:00 pm
content: Quote from: bitslice on July 21, 2016, 01:57:33 pmWell said. Here in the US, it seems that you hear on the news that one group or another has to be protected. What I find alarming is the closed-minded, "no one's allowed to say anything that might offend one person" attitude at colleges and universities. These used to be the bastions of free thinkers and expression.But I'm old and probably in the way.

author: apis
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 04:14:51 pm
content: What is ridiculous and a troubling sign of the time we live in, is a shit-storm on an internet forum about electronics because somewhere in the world there was a school that made a decision that didn't sound all that great (I don't know anything about it so don't have an opinion). It's not the first time something like this happens and will not be the last one but things like this didn't use to make headlines in media outside the local town.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 07:33:40 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 02:36:04 pmI did manage to get you "mind bent" a bit there..The hideous irony with "hen" it's not gender neutral, but one must not forget who it was behind the promotion of it. (leftist, communists and feminists).

author: HackedFridgeMagnet
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 10:57:46 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 02:27:41 pmThey're not analogies they're questions.But ok you get to where I was going. When and where is behaviour appropriate?My view is let the people who are actually involved decide this.Sure it's fine to be critical of what they decided, but maybe we should behave appropriately too.a. Get your facts right before you pass judgement.b. Don't be rude if you don't have to.c. Admit you were wrong if you did criticise these people without actually knowing what they did, or bothering to find their side of the story.d. Suggest a better resolution to the issue, sure do nothing was probably the best option in this case.ps. I guess why I am arcing up about this small issue is that I have had to sit through quite a few primary school assemblies in the past 10 years. This is at a school that sounds quite similar to this one.The teachers there are nice, the people in the PC are nice though I never went to a meeting, the kids are not kowtowed, they are full of life and verve and it is a pleasure to here the sounds of them playing whenever I go there.IMO overall they are doing a great job, though sometimes things do sound a little strange.In this particular situation, myguessis that the assembly hall is also a basket court/gym with hard surfaces and a painful sound resonance, so trying to keep the kids relatively quiet for the duration is in the majority's interest.

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 11:05:26 pm
content: If you have a medical condition that causes relatively loud noises to cause you discomfort, other than possibly becoming a pneumatic drill operator (or maybe working at a rifle range), I can't think of many less suitable professions than teaching...

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: July 22, 2016, 02:09:03 am
content: Quote from: Delta on July 21, 2016, 02:54:26 pmNo kidding, by definition it implies female.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 22, 2016, 02:23:19 am
content: Quote from: HackedFridgeMagnet on July 21, 2016, 10:57:46 pmRubbish, it's pandering to the one person who has an issue with it.Applause happens at assemblies, has done since recorded history.If that causes you distress then you need to take appropriate action to prevent that distress to yourself. What youshouldn't dois ask everyone else to stop or modify their age old behaviour just for you.Let's say I have photophobia (light sensitivity), would it be sensible of me to ask them to dim the assembly hall lights just for me?, or should I deal with it myself and put sunglasses on or something?BTW, I had this once in a boxing class at the gym. Some new person joins the class and half way through asks me to stop punching my partners pads hard because it hurts her ears. Aboxing classGuess my response.

author: Assafl
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timestamp: July 22, 2016, 05:44:51 am
content: The I-deserve (entitlement) crowd and their do-gooder benefactors have a need to apply their will on their environments. It is a psychological need of theirs that they cannot control and therefore will be alien to many (especially the liberal and libertarian crowd).Once we took away their control of their neighbors' sex life and food habits they came back with political correctness. It is their way of coping with reality. As a sensible lot perhaps we created political correctness as a way to assuage their appetite for control (at least those that won't see a shrink) - one that we look as if we suffer but instead just stare with disbelief (and suffer silently - at home admitting to our kids that the world is sometimes crazy).(BTW - in some parts of the world the fight for sex and food is still very well still happening; even in the USA the Creationist Movement is using postmodern repositioning techniques to try to get back medieval control of food and sex - luckily it backfired on them bigtime with Gay Civil Rights I assume mainly due to Hollywood screenwriters).

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2016, 08:26:26 am
content: Quote from: bitslice on July 21, 2016, 12:24:04 amThis is so schizoid, the higher social ability children won't have a problem with this ... they can adapt and leave the madness of their teachers at the school gate. Lower ability children will be taught methods of behavior which makes them stand out as abnormal in normal society though.

author: Brumby
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timestamp: July 22, 2016, 08:37:30 am
content: Therein lies a fundamental issue...Is school really preparing students for the outside world ...?

author: Assafl
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2016, 09:39:12 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on July 22, 2016, 08:37:30 amFWIW - It only takes one caring teacher, one teacher that can connect with a school kid to change their course of life. Sure not every kid finds that teacher that cares deeply - and that they can look up to - but for many they do. I am sure many here can point to one or two or three teachers that helped them set course and sally forth.IMHO - that is a vastly good reason for schools to exist - and even take the envied 2-3-4 place in public spending (after healthcare/defense/food). And probably the only place left where public dollars get spent on the future.As for absurdities like clapping hands? that is part of modern society. Not just schools. One can be the kindest and liberal person but kids HAVE TO LEARN that the illiteracy of choosing politically incorrect terms will label them as a misogynistic, homophobic, insensitive, racist and other such labels. PC is the Postmodern measure of intolerance. Sasha Baron Cohen (as Borat and others) does a good job of exposing this postmodern duality of intolerance and pseudo-openness. It has nothing to do with schools.

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2016, 10:19:30 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 10:56:11 amSome UK papers seem to be aware of the delightful Pauline Hanson. When she threatened to move to Britain in 2010 the Daily Telegraph mentioned that "in 1996 she notoriously asked a journalist to "please explain" when asked if she was xenophobic".

author: DTJ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2016, 02:13:39 pm
content: Quote from: rolycat on July 23, 2016, 10:19:30 amCredit where due, prior to this public incident I'm pretty sure the vast majority of folk didn't know (or care) what xenophobic meant.Even now years later the word is only used when taking the pi55 out of Pauline Hanson.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2016, 02:35:50 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on July 22, 2016, 08:37:30 amDuring childhood years youngster are taught to be nice and kind to fellow homosapien, then they get conscripted at 18/21 and are teached to kill on order. Schizophrenic upbringing?

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2016, 03:46:14 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 22, 2016, 02:23:19 amNot really,Dave----when I went to school.the default condition for students was to "Siddown & Shuddup!But then again school assemblies were fairly rare.unlike these PC days when Teachers want to be kid's buddies!

author: Zero999
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timestamp: July 23, 2016, 09:49:21 pm
content: I agree that school should prepare children for the real world.My nephew has ASD and if he has any problems with being in a room, full of people clapping, then I hope the school can help him to overcome it. If it proves that difficult for him to cope in such an environment then perhaps a special school would be more appropriate?And an all girls school banning gender related language? That's just stupid. The idea of single sex schools is itself gender discrimination. What happens if one of their students is transgender and wants to be a boy at an all girls school? I don't think they'd allow that. Perhaps they should start accepting boys as well?

author: Brumby
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timestamp: July 24, 2016, 01:23:47 am
content: Quote from: Hero999 on July 23, 2016, 09:49:21 pmInteresting thought ... what would happen if an enrolled student were to have gender reassignment? Would they be expelled?

author: DTJ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2016, 05:59:36 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on July 24, 2016, 01:23:47 amWho knows!If it was at a girls school at least they'd know who left the toilet seat up.