FS (Ebay) Siglent SDS2204 4ch 200MHz oscilloscope / MSO - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 07:52:30 pm
content: Time for my Siglent SDS2204 to go:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Siglent-SDS2204-200MHz-4ch-8ch-logic-oscilloscope-waveform-gen-/131595742016edit: with options: protocol decoding, MSO and waveform generator (AWG). Power analysis has 29 sessions left.Note what it says at the bottom of the listing:Get this grazy deal because there will be no relisting or price drops!Guess what will happen with it if it doesn't sell

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 08:51:44 pm
content: I guess you did not see this one when making the crazy deal...http://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Siglent-SDS2204.html

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 09:04:10 pm
content: That does not include the options I listed.

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 09:22:32 pm
content: See option promation package or third tab that includes all your options for 248€. Your "buy it know" price is still 250€ higher then the price for a new unit+options...

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 09:24:08 pm
content: Well then bid... Otherwise it goes in the skip...Oh and 'mine' comes with a proper logic analyser cable instead of a flimsy flatcable. Not cheap either.Also notice that the prices on Batronix are without VAT! So my 'buy it now price' is definitely lower than the price from Batronix!

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 06:28:10 pm
content: 10 minutes left. If you want to get it, BID It won't be available once the auction closes!

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 07:19:13 pm
content: QuoteIt will be retrievable from your skip, won't it? No point bidding when it's free (except for travel)

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 07:57:28 pm
content: I think I'll have some fun with it firstand then have it properly recycled.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 10:03:57 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on September 09, 2015, 07:57:28 pmUrgh. What an utter shithead attitude. It reminds me of when I was a poor nipper and would find perfectly good TV's put out by my rich neighbours for trash because they upgraded to the latest Sony Trinitron. Only for 12 year old me to bring it in to try and fix the fault, and find the rich odious scum had actually went to the bother of removing the back cover, cutting all the wires with scissors, and finally smashing the neck of the tube, only then screwing it all back together before leaving it on the street for the bin man.If your shitty piece of equipment is no longer worth what you think it should be you would really cut your nose to spite your face?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 10:22:44 pm
content: If it where a perfectly fine instrument I'd agree but it isn't. Selling it cheap or even giving it away would be like selling/giving away a gold plated turd. Decent people don't do that. If I sell something cheap or give it away it has to be good -period-. Not some random shit I want to get rid of.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 10:31:46 pm
content: Wow. Bad attitude.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 10:32:07 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on September 09, 2015, 10:22:44 pmI'm willing to believe you are spending too much time in those Dutch "coffee-shops" I hear of. You have a very strange attitude and not one that would impart any confidence in the fool who would actually pay your asking price, I mean, fuck him right?

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 10:37:45 pm
content: Thanks for the insight into how it should be done. I guess I need to stop putting random crap up for sale on this group at 50% discounts then.Ah well, it's been nice knowing you lot.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 10:53:23 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on September 09, 2015, 10:37:45 pmNot really - you sell (most) of your crap quickly and without being snidey that the buyers are undeserving chavscum. I find your attitude hilarious actually and *it works*. You have earned a lot of trust too. "Goodwill" is an intangible asset in any business and carries the most premium.nctnico here is instantly marked down as someone I could never trust, ever. You don't do business with someone you don't trust. Simple as.

author: lukier
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 11:19:20 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on September 09, 2015, 10:37:45 pmPlease don'tI always worry that before I manage to save enough cash for something useful you'll run out of stuff under your desk

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 11:33:58 pm
content: Quote from: Macbeth on September 09, 2015, 10:53:23 pmNo quibble with you Macbeth, nctnico is the one that's shocked me tonight. Looks like it's psycho week on EEV after moaning-chump throwing his hand in! Had a tremendous high tide here yesterday, maybe the moon is to blame for all the madness!

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2015, 11:44:13 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on September 09, 2015, 10:31:46 pmAgreed, damn, my dad is right, world is headed down the shitter.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 01:09:50 am
content: QuoteQuoteSince it did not sell - What happened? (I cannot guess)What does "skip" mean? Trash Can? Do you have something like Goodwill that would appreciate to have it? And I am sure it would have sold if you started the bid at 99 cents. (I will bid 99 cents and pay postage)If you hate it how about a Teardown Video ? Using a hammer and chisel.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 03:32:56 am
content: Quote from: TopLoser on September 09, 2015, 11:33:58 pmI know you sell stuff for around half the list price but my SDS2204 didn't go for less than half the list price. The difference is that the equipment you sell has been tested and usually is from well known brands which don't put products out which aren't finished.The problem is that I have been feeling incredible cheated by buying the SDS2204 since the end of last year and that feeling has been increasing with new firmware getting delayed time and time again. The thing just has to go because it is ruining my mood way too often. So yes I may be a bit too emotional about it. Still what if I sell it for -say- 200 euro? My experience is that at some price point people just buy things without investigating properly. The end result is money wasted and a bad feeling (maybe even negative feedback and/or a return). It has happened to me before when I sold a 21" fixed frequency monitor ages ago. People just got triggered by the low price and didn't read so got dissappointed after I asked them they knew it was a fixed frequency monitor when they came over to pick it up (and made the trip for nothing). Another item ready to go is a nearly brand new SMD tweezer from Aoyue. I probably could sell it but it is such a piece of sh*t that I don't want to take a chance someone else is wasting time & money on it. OTOH I'm happy to sell equipment which has been 'good to me' and I can vouch for (like the LCR meter I have for sale and other excess equipment I have sold in the past).@Macbeth: If you think I think you (or anyone else) are undeserving you really got it wrong. Tell me how you would be happy with an oscilloscope which only has half the promised functions and where the rest of the functions is either limited or buggy? Would you like to take the gamble and wait a few years for Siglent to finish the firmware (if they ever finish it)? My oscilloscope not selling (which doesn't surprise me at all; I just put it on Ebay just in case someone would like to take the gamble or is satisfied with the way it is) is all the information you need... BTW I also own a Siglent waveform generator for several years now. That worked OK for me after putting Lecroy's firmware on it (other owners pointed out it had less issues). I think I installed Siglent's own firmware on it last year or so after it finally matured.Ohh and now I'm getting crap thrown at me in this thread because of that damn scope.

author: RogerRowland
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 04:45:08 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on September 10, 2015, 03:32:56 amActually, you're getting crap thrown at you because you let your emotion show.If you'd have explained it like you did above, then offered it for whatyouthink it's worth onthisforum, you'd realise that people here are not (in general) the same as people on eBay.It could all have ended so nicely ....

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 05:56:14 am
content: QuoteGet on with life and toss it in the trash. Maybe in 60 days you will feel better even though you will think "what the fuck did I do". I think you will feel better knowing it is buried somewhere. Let us know when you toss it and I will toast the event with a beer..

author: WVL_KsZeN
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 07:29:42 am
content: If you really want to get rid of it I'll drive by and pick it up.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 07:52:11 pm
content: The comments in this thread warmed me up to considering selling the SDS2204 and coincidentally someone contacted me for that reason (he needed a simple scope he could use 'in the line of fire'). A deal was struck and so the SDS2204 is packed and ready to go to a new home.

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 08:17:13 pm
content: Glad you found some-one, and I hope it will make him a little more happy. I understand you frustration, especially if I see the price of a new siglent before the promotion

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 10:55:58 pm
content: QuoteNice! Well done

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 11:20:20 pm
content: Good conclusion nctnico, best place to get rid of crap (gold plated turd or otherwise) is here.Is it safe for me to start dumping my turds here now? Are all the crazies finished for a while?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 11:28:04 pm
content: @Toploser: Since we all lost our Mojo today we have to make do with your crap so bring it on!Always looking forward to one of your splendid deals...

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 11:36:22 pm
content: "Selling it cheap or even giving it away would be like selling/giving away a gold plated turd. Decent people don't do that. If I sell something cheap or give it away it has to be good -period-. Not some random shit I want to get rid of."I REALLY have issues with that attitude though. I've got a pile of shit here people would be delighted to pay a nominal value plus shipping for even if it doesn't work or just explodes and spits fire at them. I've been told too many times I shouldn't just chuck stuff in the skip.I'll be shipping some random items of shit/crap to people here free of charge in the morning.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 11:45:45 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on September 10, 2015, 11:28:04 pmI mourned the loss of our Mojo for all of 10-15 seconds...I just offer stuff for sale and let people make their own decision about its crap quotient, I don't dictate what they should and shouldn't buy. Except those shockingly crap desoldering stations, I'm ashamed I ever offered them for sale now...

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2015, 11:59:41 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on September 10, 2015, 11:36:22 pmThen you are misunderstanding me. There are some fine lines here I just can't get right when writing in English. I think your soldering irons example is more or less the point I tried to make.

author: GlowingGhoul
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2015, 02:25:05 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on September 10, 2015, 11:36:22 pmPlease hurry up and post some more of your crap for sale. Many of us have made checking your crap pile for goodies a daily ritual. We need our fix please!

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2015, 06:41:03 pm
content: Quote from: GlowingGhoul on September 11, 2015, 02:25:05 pmI also do this daily ritual (sometimes twice a day), but still I am not fast enough. There is some tough "competition" here...

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 11, 2015, 08:55:28 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on September 10, 2015, 11:59:41 pmI suspected their might be some thin culture/humour lines that we were struggling with. Move along nothing to see nowNot language though, Dutch people speak and write better English than most native English people in my experience!

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 11, 2015, 08:59:08 pm
content: Quote from: _Wim_ on September 11, 2015, 06:41:03 pmOnly twice a day?! Nope, twice an hour and you might get some of the better crap!

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 12, 2015, 02:13:32 pm
content: I am trying...