Siglent SDS6000L 2GHz, 4-8 Ch Low Profile Digital oscilloscope serie - Page 1
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author: rf-loop
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2022, 11:54:02 am
content: In China, Siglent have published new 500MHz - 2GHz oscilloscope serie for domestic markets inside China.Since then, on 12.01.2023, Siglent has released this model series, SDS6000L, to the global market.Models are:SDS6208L 2 GHzSDS6204L 2 GHzSDS6108L 1 GHzSDS6104L 1 GHzSDS6058L 500 MHzSDS6054L 500 MHzI will later update this message moreOne unit can have 4 or 8 analog channels and 16Ch digital channel.Oscilloscope "box" do not have integrated display at all. Just rack or tabletop box5GSa/s (10GSa/s ESR) and max 500M memory.Up to 170kwfm / 750kwfm/s sequence mode.HDMI or gigabit LAN for connect Display and/or computerThese rack mountable units can connect to network for up to 512 analog channels total.

author: rf-loop
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timestamp: March 29, 2022, 11:55:52 am
content: reserved for later use

author: blurpy
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timestamp: April 02, 2022, 09:19:52 am
content: Huh, had to look at the date of this post. Was not April fools? What is the use case for 512 channels on a single oscilloscope?

author: Kleinstein
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timestamp: April 02, 2022, 09:45:58 am
content: Many channels in a single scope may be needed to follow rare events at different points in the circuit or with extra sensors, like random failured or radiation effects (e.g. muon showers).The 512 channels is likely a theoretical limit, like what the SW may do, not really practical and especially not at a high speed. There may be additional limitations (e.g. interconnecing cables so shat that it is not actually possible with existing parts).The more practical case would be some analog channels (maybeand than quite a lot digital channels (e.g. 32) in a mixed analog / digit setup.Quantum computers / Qbits tend to need a lot of channels for control and supervision. This may actually want 1 - 2 channels per Qbit. So even small experimental unit with 16 Qbits may need quite some channels during testing / adjustment.

author: 1Ghz
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timestamp: April 02, 2022, 10:20:00 am
content: Quote from: blurpy on April 02, 2022, 09:19:52 amMaybe phased array measurements?http://www.seed-solutions.com/gregordy/Amateur%20Radio/Experimentation/HexArray/UsingScope.htm

author: mawyatt
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timestamp: April 02, 2022, 12:36:30 pm
content: Quote from: 1Ghz on April 02, 2022, 10:20:00 amBest

author: 2N3055
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timestamp: April 02, 2022, 12:41:15 pm
content: No need for exotic reason (not that it cannot be used for something exotic).Plain vanilla production test is biggest user of these kinds of solutions.

author: tv84
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timestamp: April 03, 2022, 09:29:03 am
content: On such a rig can I correlate and do math operations with any of those hundreds of channels?

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 10:10:18 am
content: Quote from: tv84 on April 03, 2022, 09:29:03 amNot in scopes itself as I can see. This is mostly clock/trigger synchronization. You do coherent sampling on many channels and then pull data en masse to a PC where you combine/analyze. That is very common in 2 scenarios: massive data acquisition arrays (from sensors and such) and production testing where you test whole complicated devices in one go, instead sequentially in separate steps.These new series of Siglent scopes have interesting characteristics for these kinds of scenarios. 12bit ADC, decent DC offset range, good range of input sensitivities and better than average DC accuracies, combined with decent bandwidth... It allows wide range of test scenarios.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 10:45:47 am
content: Then it's like a bunch of USB scopes time-synced and with an adequate PC software...

author: nctnico
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timestamp: April 03, 2022, 12:31:20 pm
content: Quote from: 1Ghz on April 02, 2022, 10:20:00 amDon't think so. Looking at the architecture they seem so use a single 10MHz clock source with a distribution panel and some connections back & forth. You can't get to the required synchronisation level that way.

author: pope
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timestamp: April 04, 2022, 02:56:31 pm
content: Price?

author: tautech
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timestamp: January 03, 2023, 09:11:05 pm
content: Quote from: pope on April 04, 2022, 02:56:31 pmWe can offer that in a couple weeks at release for the 6 models that will be available but for now just an English datasheet.

author: Martin72
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timestamp: January 03, 2023, 10:45:24 pm
content: QuoteAnd.....it´s 8bit.

author: tautech
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timestamp: January 12, 2023, 06:55:41 am
content: Official release to western markets 12 Jan 2023. (HQ time)https://int.siglent.com/products-overview/sds6000l/https://siglentna.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds6000l-low-profile-digital-storage-oscilloscope/https://www.siglenteu.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds6000l-series/Pricing from $ 7900 ...

author: rf-loop
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timestamp: January 16, 2023, 05:54:31 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on January 03, 2023, 10:45:24 pmReally and deeply unfortunately, can't live in China all the time.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2023, 10:09:33 pm
content: What I have been wondering for a while now and also with the 6000...For the 8bit, 10bit and 12bit versions, will siglent really create three different platforms for this or will this only be "decided" via software.The former would cost quite a lot of money to produce, the latter could give hope to people like me.

author: tautech
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timestamp: January 16, 2023, 11:27:55 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on January 16, 2023, 10:09:33 pmThis has been on my mind too and I don't believe anyone will ever confirm or deny it.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2023, 11:35:25 pm
content: Yepp, the only way to find it out will be a teardown.BTW, never seen servicemanuals with such less information like the ones from siglent...

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2023, 11:40:24 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on January 16, 2023, 11:35:25 pmOnly if heatsinks are not stuck down like they are on lots of high performance gear these days.Had a client visit week before last and we got chatting about the SDS2104X Plus we supplied him and as he'd never opened his I had an old warranty replaced PCB for him to inspect which had a # of unremovable heatsinks, some even with hold down clips but no, they were stuck fast.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2023, 11:52:23 pm
content: I thought the same with the HD, but user TopQuark was able to loosen the heatsinks on his model without damaging anything.OK, is a matter of luck whether it could be the same with the 6000s.

author: slugrustle
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timestamp: February 12, 2023, 11:40:23 pm
content: How does the memory depth work on the 8-channel models? This is not clear from the datasheet; all it says is500 Mpts/ch (single-channel)250 Mpts/ch (dual-channel)125 Mpts/ch (3 or 4 channels)EDIT: Nevermind. It's in note 3 on page 9.* 3: C1~C4 as a group and C5~C8 as another group. In a group:Single-channel: Only one channel is enabled in a groupDual-channel: Two channels are enabled in a group

author: tautech
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timestamp: June 27, 2023, 06:56:48 am
content: I've always wanted a 40" display DSO.....

author: Martin72
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timestamp: June 27, 2023, 09:09:09 pm
content: That somehow has its charm...

author: tautech
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timestamp: June 27, 2023, 09:29:57 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on June 27, 2023, 09:09:09 pmExcept without a LAN connection to a PC, other than basic DSO use what you can do with it is somewhat limited.Once you run it in a browser you open up its real capabilities.....must get one of those TP Link wireless routers to use it anywhere except at the company workstation.First impression was that it's really quite weighty and not at all small, 400x400mm but only 42mm thick.Now driving a 24" monitor and LAN connected so to initially get LAN settings correct for remote access.Of course to operate it's very much like SDS6000A but with some sync features to align multiple units of these.Investigations are continuing ...... that has revealed some suggestions to send to Siglent.I'd have really liked the 8ch model but that's a good bit more expensive.

author: tautech
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timestamp: June 28, 2023, 11:24:53 pm
content: As is customary with a new scope it need be introduced to Mr Bodnar....A shade under 500ps risetime is not too bad for this 500 MHz model.

author: TheDefpom
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timestamp: July 17, 2023, 02:59:20 am
content: Quote from: tautech on June 28, 2023, 11:24:53 pmI was getting ~485ps :-)

author: TheDefpom
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timestamp: July 17, 2023, 03:10:40 am
content: Sexy photo shoot for you all...

author: TheDefpom
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timestamp: July 17, 2023, 03:11:15 am
content: and some more...

author: tautech
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timestamp: July 19, 2023, 10:00:42 am
content: Defpom review and teardown, maybe a world 1st for this model

author: Martin72
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timestamp: July 19, 2023, 10:19:39 am
content: LOL, the mini-carpet for the mouse...And, surprise surprise...A more than one sheet of calibration.

author: 2N3055
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timestamp: July 19, 2023, 11:16:06 am
content: Quote from: Martin72 on July 19, 2023, 10:19:39 amAhahhaa LOL the rug...

author: Martin72
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timestamp: July 19, 2023, 02:04:57 pm
content: A beautiful piece of technology, you can't say otherwise.The scope, that is, not the carpet.

author: TheDefpom
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timestamp: July 22, 2023, 01:38:23 am
content: Here you go... here is a link to the mouse rug, I know you want one:https://defs.link/?u=d411834

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 12, 2023, 03:36:04 am
content: New firmware for SDS6000L models.Version： V1.0.6.393.8MBhttps://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Oscilloscope/SDS6000L_V1.0.6.3_EN.zipRelease notes1. Fixed some serious bugs in Roll and Sequence2. Optimized external trigger jitter3. Fixed some freezing bugs

author: tautech
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timestamp: April 26, 2024, 10:47:31 pm
content: New firmware for SDS6000L models.Version： V1.0.7.898 MBhttps://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Oscilloscope/SDS6000L_1.0.7.8_EN.zipRelease notes1. Fixed several bugsa) Cannot exit from Bode plot in some caseb) Cannot detect active probes correctly when the probes are connected at power-onc) “Set to 50% level” takes the scope frozen in some cased) Sample rate is displayed incorrectly after reboot from Fixed Memory Length mode

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2024, 08:26:07 am
content: I wonder when we might see these in the west.....in 12bit too ?