Elecrow possible credit card fraud - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: RustyShackleford
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 03:55:41 am
content: I have used Elecrow 3 times over the past 2-3 years and have been pleased with their service, quality, and pricing.However, today I received a alert from my credit card company, reporting a fraudalent charge of $1000+. This is a brand new card, and I've made only 3 charges on it ever, to Mouser, McMaster-Carr, and Elecrow; there is little doubt in my mind as to which of these 3 companies is responsible for the fraud.I don't tend to suspect Elecrow itself, but rather an employee or some related entity that got ahold of the number. In fact, I still intend to use Elecrow. I'll just have the sense to use Paypal.

author: DerekG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 06:03:48 am
content: Quote from: RustyShackleford on March 27, 2019, 03:55:41 amYep, always use Paypal when dealing with suppliers in China if possible.Note that you can normally pay in US$ with Paypal, so do that to save a few dollars along with a credit card that does not charge a foreign exchange fee.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 10:19:18 am
content: Quote from: DerekG on March 27, 2019, 06:03:48 amIs there a shop selling SMD parts in the norfolk islands

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 12:50:43 pm
content: Have you checked your PC for a rootkit / keylogger?

author: RustyShackleford
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 05:23:41 pm
content: Quote from: Psi on March 27, 2019, 12:50:43 pmI use Macs.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 06:06:42 pm
content: Quote from: RustyShackleford on March 27, 2019, 05:23:41 pmSo?

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 06:26:08 pm
content: I'd be more concerned if you put it into ATM or payment terminal which had skimmer on/in it.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 11:23:05 pm
content: Quote from: RoGeorge on March 27, 2019, 06:23:25 pmMAC is an acronym, it stands for Macs Are Crap.i drove someone mad with that argument when i was in schoolRemember people, Know your paradoxes.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 11:29:39 pm
content: Quote from: Psi on March 27, 2019, 11:23:05 pmMore like recursion.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2019, 12:41:13 am
content: Quote from: RustyShackleford on March 28, 2019, 12:35:48 amYou appear to be the one who suggested you need not check your PC (personal computer - Apple or otherwise..) for malicious software because it happens to be an Apple.

author: RustyShackleford
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2019, 12:48:59 am
content: Ok, I suppose Macs (I've used the common English-language convention of adding an 's' to a word in order to pluralize it) can suffer from these sorts of attack as well. I'm used to thinking of them as immune, but even if that was ever the case, it's certainly less so now.Would anyone be willing to outline how to check my 2009 Mac Pro (El Capitan) for the aforementioned rootkit or keylogger ? I'd appreciate it. It doesn't seem out of the question, because I do almost all of my internet shopping from a laptop, but I placed this Elecrow order from that Mac Pro, having just reviewed the Gerber on its 30" monitor. Anyhow ... Paypal.

author: RustyShackleford
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2019, 12:50:07 am
content: Quote from: wraper on March 27, 2019, 06:26:08 pmNope, that ain't it.

author: OwO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2019, 11:02:25 am
content: OS X El Capitan has been unsupported (and not had security updates) since mid 2018. I would either upgrade the OS or relegate it to "unsecure uses only".

author: sokoloff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2019, 11:15:58 am
content: I had a new card issued (for some credit rating hacking) that I had literally never used anywhere and some fraudulent charges popped up on it. Someone bought gas with a card with that number and then ordered hundreds of dollars of makeup or somesuch for delivery to an address in Mexico.Bank didn't seem too bent out of shape about it or inclined to get to the bottom of it.I wouldn't necessarily conclude that it had to be one of your three vendors.

author: RustyShackleford
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2019, 05:28:29 pm
content: Quote from: OwO on March 28, 2019, 11:02:25 amOh crap. This big Mac Pro I use for photo-editing cannot be upgraded above El Cap. Like I said, I do all online shopping from new'ish laptop. Guess I shouldn't login to sensitive websites from the Pro either.

author: NorthGuy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2019, 05:59:08 pm
content: These days, most of the vendors don't even see your card number.

author: RustyShackleford
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:35:11 am
content: Quote from: NorthGuy on March 28, 2019, 05:59:08 pmI've learned a few things about credit-card fraud here. Apologies to Elecrow if my supposition was false (and honestly, maybe a bit racially-prejudiced).

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:42:31 am
content: Isn't elecrow CC payment done through paypal?My last order from them was a few years ago, but their about payment page seem to suggest so.https://www.elecrow.com/about-payment/EDIT: I just checked that CC number is entered on their website directly.

author: nihtila
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 09, 2019, 10:20:32 pm
content: Funny thing! I ordered from Elecrow 2 days ago and (for some reason) tried paying directly with a card instead of usual Paypal. And just noticed three odd transactions on "NEXT DIRECTORY ONLINE GBR", called the bank and closed the card.I havent used that card really in months so thought this cannot be a coincidence and googled "elecrow card fraud" and this was the first hit. So no, I don't think it is a coincidence.A reminder to use PP but after using Elecrow for probably ten times feel quite disappointed. But who knows where it happens..Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 09, 2019, 10:47:07 pm
content: Quote from: nihtila on April 09, 2019, 10:20:32 pmAs if your money will be stolen just after CC data was leaked. It can happen at any time, even years after it was leaked. Also it's not like people who steal data and steal money are the same people. More often than not, those who stolen data simply sell it.

author: nihtila
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 10, 2019, 06:22:10 am
content: Quote from: wraper on April 09, 2019, 10:47:07 pmIt can happen anytime, as it can happen straight after. It doesnt have to be a massive leak with millions of details at once.OP had a brand new card. I havent used my card in ages or much overall. Odds are pointing at elecrow website, whether its them or their dodgy Chinese payment service provider.Similarly I had another case years ago where I could have almost certainly pointed the leak to a transaction only a couple of days before.Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk