The discerning audiophile's choice of grounding ($20,000 for 20lbs) - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: floobydust
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2018, 10:30:14 pm
content: Has anyone tried these?They are wood boxes with stuff inside and a "ground" banana jack.You can connect one to mains ground, or to a loudspeaker or audio ground, etc. to improve everything.Tripoint Audio Troy SignatureSE Grounding Unit with attached grounding wire, going for $20,000 USD weighing 20lbs and African Bubinga wood, and the Emperor model costing more. I like the 10 year warranty.They make the $9,000 full-featuredEntreqSilver TellusII look good as a bargain. Many units for a few hundred dollars from china too but made of pine."They help to lower the noise floor of all attached audio components by optimizing the relative ground potential which results in a much more musical presentation.""I have tried the ground box on my TV with very good results too. Images become brighter and colours are more vibrant."... very sophisticated crystals and internal tuning, secret ingredients such as tar, dravite, schorl, quartz, cotton, graphite, silver.Very good for sound. The manufacturer recommends burn-in for at least 72 hours.How do nut bars make enough money to afford this?

author: Dubbie
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 30, 2018, 10:47:31 pm
content: I wonder if they actually sell any?Surely nobody is that big of a sucker?

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2018, 10:54:21 pm
content: The latest in audiophoolery combined with new age crystal healing for a low low price of $20K.

author: Bassman59
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2018, 11:06:22 pm
content: Those boxes aren't grounding anything.

author: ogden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2018, 11:20:36 pm
content: Quote from: floobydust on November 30, 2018, 10:30:14 pmThere are enough rich & stupid around theworld

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2018, 11:27:25 pm
content: They have taken a joke and turned it into a product for the scientifically illiterate.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 30, 2018, 11:31:22 pm
content: They are just pencil boxes made for pencils, and tools.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2018, 11:32:06 pm
content: Quote from: Bassman59 on November 30, 2018, 11:06:22 pmBut they are full of ground. How can you say that?

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2018, 11:42:59 pm
content: http://tripointaudio.us/TESTIMONIALS.htmQuoteOops edit:For the audiophile who demands no hard copy technical explanation on how this device works and agrees to the home audition.

author: The Soulman
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 12:18:13 am
content: Here is my edit:Quote

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 12:33:39 am
content: Quotehttp://www.andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/TheEmperorsNewClothes_e.html

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 12:36:38 am
content: If they want ground why bother with charcoal why not just put EARTH in it?They need a good grounding in demanding for the technical information never mind the explanations.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 01:25:53 am
content: Quote from: ogden on November 30, 2018, 11:20:36 pmIt entertains the idea of making a similar product with a website for it, advertise it on Audiogoon and the likes and any profit goes towards charity for those who are in genuine need of help.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 04:19:43 am
content: Many of the posts on things like that are fake. Some people are that stupid but many of the posts are fake. Its another whole self-sustaining fake ecosystem. Why do they do it? (post fake reviews?) Its simple.Read this paper. According to a friend in the ad industry, people are commonly paid to troll the Internet in order to influence other people by espousing things that any sensible person can see are against their own best interests. This works as long as they 'smell right'. According to him huge sums of money are spent doing this.Quote from: MrMobodies on December 01, 2018, 01:25:53 am

author: boB
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 04:42:01 am
content: These sound absolutely wonderful !If you open the box up and put it to your ear, you can hear the ocean just like it was right there !"Can handle over 100 amps of current "The plug is only rated at, what..... Maybe 15 to 20 amps at most ?Geeesh... I love reading the BS they come up with for this stuff.

author: scatha
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 05:21:56 am
content: Audiophools must get very smug when burglars nick their TV and jewelry but don't touch their $20K magic dirt boxes, $10K+ runs of speaker wire, $20K power cables, and fancy beeswax fuses.

author: Urs42
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 06:03:27 am
content: The cheaper version of this grounding device:

author: Raj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 07:04:02 am
content: Quote from: cdev on November 30, 2018, 11:27:25 pmSometimes, jokes are more profitable than real stuff....The pet rock, for example.... People pay to get their hands on the packaging and handbook manual.

author: Synthtech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 07:19:40 am
content: They only need to sell one.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2018, 04:58:50 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on December 01, 2018, 04:19:43 amJust like MyLife.comIn January or February they initially refused to remove false information written about me by nobody but themselves or their "bots", information which was not true anyway and they wanted to charge me to remove it so I went and emailed all their affiliates.BBC America, Cnet, Fox News, WSJ and USA Today did not give them permission to use their logos. They were not affiliated with them in any way and they told me they were passing it to their legal teams. I replied to Mylife that I reported them to their affiliates and that they are no different to the Mugshot websites with their sister sites and the scandal behind it then they told me the stuff will be removed.The last time I checked the profile page it is still there but the writing was gone ornot appearing past signing up and logging in.

author: pwlps
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2018, 01:13:28 pm
content: What about this high-tech BS:https://www.lessloss.com/tunnelbridge-distortionless-interconnect-system-p-204.htmlAs I understand they add a guard line - of course not much effect on inductive coupling at low frequencies so I guess if someone replaces his XLR twisted-pair cables by this stuff he actually will see more noise ?But I like the picture, this reminds me of some washing powder ads (here in France) where detergent molecules gently expel grime molecules

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2018, 07:54:29 pm
content: Quote from: pwlps on December 03, 2018, 01:13:28 pmThe cover on TunnelBridge RCA phono plugs are HUGE.Is that really necessary?Will they even fit in the standard spacings of the left and right phono plugs.I know the phono plugs on some amplifiers they are close by.

author: GregDunn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2018, 07:42:53 pm
content: Quote from: Urs42 on December 01, 2018, 06:03:27 amYou laugh, but... this is a true story:During college, I worked at a small local foundry on summer breaks, in the electrical maintenance department. One of the old hands there made a little money on the side by doing installations for a local appliance dealer. He told me about an incident a few years earlier where a customer had ordered an electric refrigerator and he was assigned to deliver and install it. Noticing that it was a rural address where the power company didn't have distribution lines, he called the customer first to make sure there was indeed an electrical connection. He was assured that there was, and that all he had to do was plug the unit in after moving it into place.You guessed it - he arrived and found (a) no electrical service to the house, and (b) the customer had neatly mounted an electrical socket in the wall, connected to nothing.

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2018, 09:36:38 pm
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on December 01, 2018, 04:58:50 pmYou want to know how ridiculous that site is - I made up a new account on there, using the SAME throwaway email address they keep spamming me on, and made the name "John Smith". Then I uprated "my" account (the one that has my real name) and sure enough - got an email saying my reputation score changed. LOL. What a freaking joke.

author: Zbig
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2019, 01:42:15 pm
content: When skimming through the inane drivel the "audiophile" product reviews are, it never ceases to amaze me how they seem to believe that the audio reproduction gear, from the amplifier through cables to speakers (and everything in between, power cable included), somehow has the deep understanding of the actual music material being played. The way their "reviews" are written suggests they're completely oblivious to - or unable to comprehend - the simple fact that it's just two electrical signals, one per channel, carrying a voltage whose level changes in time. Reading their babble makes me think they're imagining audio gear as a some kind of a MIDI player that has yet to meticulously recreate the music, instrument by instrument, from the source material. I imagine they picture an engineer designing, say, an amp (yup, that's imagination^2) as an artisan who cherry picks through a bag of gold-plated, magical components in order to bring those violins in this particular recording they like just a bit "more open", "brighter" and "more airy", instead of just making the damn thing respond more or less linearly in the particular frequency range. Do they really think the cello in the 3:45 minute mark somehow travels as a separate entity to the conductor's fart over their $1000 speaker cable or is it that they're just too dumb to learn few actual engineering terms that describe audio signal quality and have to resort to the bullshit terms they use, that they seem to invent as they go? I mean, come on, when I was seven, I too had some difficulty understanding how a complex sounds could be reproduced by an excursion of a single speaker's diaphragm. But it was only until, few years later, someone just drew me a small, very squiggly line riding on top of a bigger, less squiggly line and then it clicked. That's not rocket science, FFS

author: 0culus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2019, 10:40:55 pm
content: But does it have a FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER??

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2019, 11:49:17 pm
content: The box it reminds me of ground coffee.