Audiophoolery - VP29 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: HalFET
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2019, 10:35:38 am
content: Couldn't help but chuckle when this one came up on youtube:It's interesting how an audiophool doesn't seem to get angry after being ripped off for $30.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2019, 10:57:20 am
content: Quote from: HalFET on March 04, 2019, 10:35:38 amIf the price tag doesn't have at least 4 digits, it's not proper audiophoolery!

author: Raj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2019, 11:51:59 am
content: This is quite common practice.To me, it's like, paying a premium to a company, which inspects a product, takes responsibility and gives guarantees.In power tools industry, it's quite common to see this.eg- cheapest Grizzly and proxxon lathes are same as Chinese lathe, but unlike chinese lathes, there are no missing parts or engrish manual.The same apples for most drills,jigsaws, etc etcBut, i have to admit... The price difference here, is higher than any example I've ever seen

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2019, 11:57:48 am
content: Quote from: HalFET on March 04, 2019, 10:35:38 amI don't understand the point of your topic. Isn't the entire point of the video that the uploader was angry about being "ripped off for $30"?Which isn't to say that they should be angry, since there's nothing to be angry about. A device with a known brand is easier to sell and can demand a higher price, even if it is identical to a cheaper unit from a dodgier brand. Prices are what the market will bear, not a bill of materials calculation.Compare the price of the Keysight N2791A and the LeCroy AP031: they are the same device made by the same OEM. You pay a "tax" on the brand outside as well as whatever's inside. Compare branded Mercedes or BMW parts with the same parts from the OEM: you pay more for the brand. It is that way everywhere, but "audiophools" and now there's another stupid topic on the EEVBlog Forum.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2019, 03:36:11 pm
content: Yeah, I wouldn't even be surprised if the author of this video was using an iPhone that they paid $1000+ while whining for $30

author: HalFET
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2019, 02:29:17 am
content: Quote from: helius on March 04, 2019, 11:57:48 amDo you now expect credit for explaining something all of us knew already? There's no advantage to being a know-it-all jerk towards people... But if you really need examples of crappy rebranding, I can give you more extreme ones. i.e. one of Keithley's triple channel power supply actually being a rebadged ITECH IT6300. The point is this guy's response, even after a "trusted brand" pulling such a stunt he still doesn't discard their credibility, even tough both are actually a rebadged Chinese pre-amp you can pick up for a few quid (I've repaired things that look like this exact board a few times already). Additionally, there is no added value here, even in terms of brand name or inspection. So yeah, way to over-analyse the situation....@SiliconWizard: he probably put the iPhone in one of those $200 "motion cancelling" jigs to film it with knowing the type.

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2019, 05:48:40 am
content: I see I hit a nerve, because you still don't understand that the "value" of a product is whatever someone will pay. That's it. The "stunt" that you perceive simply does not exist. For someone who knew it already, your ignorance of economics is quite convincing.

author: HalFET
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2019, 11:00:38 am
content: Quote from: helius on March 09, 2019, 05:48:40 amWhich "stunt"? Honestly, just stop being a prick. All you're doing is kind of demonstrating that you're a bit of a dick.