Negative Feedback T-Shirt Design Contest - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2013, 11:00:17 pm
content: I'm running a trial contest on 99 designs to see if someone can design a new Negative Feedback circuit I want to put on TeeSpring.Check it out. I don't think anyone but me can vote though, but comments are welcome on here.https://99designs.com.au/t-shirt-design/contests/electronics-themed-t-shirt-design-revamp-required-213145/entries

author: Frantone
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2013, 11:42:45 pm
content: I like #6 and I wish you luck!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2013, 11:49:16 pm
content: I think #4 are #5 are best out of the bunch so far.I don't like the ones that just changed the font a bit and the colour, I could have done that myself.

author: David_AVD
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2013, 11:53:14 pm
content: I like #6 the best.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 25, 2013, 12:07:51 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on April 24, 2013, 11:27:37 pmOf course. Muggles aren't meant to get it. Although I have had muggles tell me they like the slogan, even though they didn't get the circuit.I wanted to see if anyone could come up with some creative flair of some sort, we'll see. Otherwise I've done my dough.

author: lemmegraphdat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2013, 12:46:26 am
content: The original works as is. Anything else is just adding cheap makeup.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2013, 12:50:02 am
content: Yeah, I haven't seen any I like better than the original.

author: AlfBaz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2013, 01:11:44 am
content: Give Sagan some crayons, get him to copy the original and then past Ken Done's signature on it

author: notsob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2013, 01:21:19 am
content: One possible enhancement, capture the smell of 'magic smoke' and add a'scratch and sniff' element to the T shirt.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 12:42:30 am
content: More designs are up, but still nothing that takes my fancy.I was hoping for some magic like we got with the Amp Hour T-Shirt.

author: lemmegraphdat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 01:04:30 am
content: I think we have reached the limit with a static representation of the circuit. Would be nice if some animated graphics could be added.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 01:19:22 am
content: Quote from: lemmegraphdat on April 26, 2013, 01:04:30 amI was expecting someone to warp it, add some perspective, or at least do something with it. Although I'm not offering much money here, so they will do as little work as possible I guess and hope they get lucky?

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 01:52:14 am
content: Quote from: notsob on April 25, 2013, 01:21:19 amQuote from: lemmegraphdat on April 26, 2013, 01:04:30 amThese two could be combined. Embedded electronics? Wash and sniff?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 02:19:23 am
content: Now we are talking:I think it's a bit busy, but finally a creative one.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 03:29:57 am
content: I like it. I think it needs one tweak, though - make "I only give negative feedback" stand out somehow from the schematic labels. My tired eyes started to read "I only give Vout"...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 03:41:58 am
content: Quote from: c4757p on April 26, 2013, 03:29:57 amYes, that's what I first saw too.I think the PCB traces and background colour are too distracting, and the font hard to read, but the concept work I think.

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 11:02:12 am
content: Quote from: c4757p on April 25, 2013, 12:50:02 amYes, until now the original one has my vote.Stylized, clear and beautiful.

author: staxquad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 03:14:15 pm
content: I like #6, clean and clear, like what you'd want to see on a board(with maybe a slight color change, for educational purposes, highlighting the negative feedback)

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 03:33:59 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 26, 2013, 02:19:23 ami vote for this one as well !like the pcb pattern. nice touch. shows the designer knows a bit about electronics. The others are just 'font work'...MrDunne #16 !!! has my vote. and it would look great on black or white background !#18 .. the font for 'feedback' is just ... plain wrong.. that's a font for a football or baseball team...

author: ResR
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 04:27:41 pm
content: I didn't want to make a account for just one upload so here's my own graffiti style design.

author: Alana
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 06:40:08 pm
content: Quote from: lemmegraphdat on April 25, 2013, 12:46:26 amI agree.And if it must be changed no 6 may be ok.

author: ddavidebor
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 07:04:35 pm
content: Quote from: ResR on April 26, 2013, 04:27:41 pmoThumbs down...!

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2013, 09:52:34 pm
content: How about "I only give" and the circuit in place of the words "negative feedback".Or, similarly: "I only give..." and then the formula.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 27, 2013, 06:51:47 am
content: A couple of more good designs I rather like:

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 27, 2013, 07:13:47 am
content: Mrs EEblog likes this one:

author: Neganur
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 27, 2013, 10:04:52 am
content: Those that change font color are difficult to read.#19 has good slogan visibility but should maybe be scaled down a little#37 and #18 have a nice circuit picture, but their slogan is "I only give"#16 is a nice concept, highlighting the feedback resistor makes it look too smeared though#34 is nice and subtle. Now, plain white letters please!

author: lemmegraphdat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 27, 2013, 04:28:17 pm
content: I like #31 a lot. The larger graphics are going to look better after the shirt is all faded and crusty. Higher signal to noise ratio.

author: Pack34
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 27, 2013, 05:08:38 pm
content: Hands down #34.

author: andyturk
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 02:12:36 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on April 24, 2013, 11:27:37 pmSeconded. #1 is the only one I'd pay $$ for.a) it looks like a traffic warning signb) the text is "negative", i.e., the absence of colorc) the schematic is readable and recognizable by those who will get the joked) a single color design is cheaper to produceFlashy colors and "creative" fonts will make the shirt appeal more to those that don't get it.If you really want to go there, you might as well put kittens on the EEVBlog logo.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 02:58:49 am
content: I really like #47 the best now, the guy who did has won half a dozen contests, and I think it shows.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 03:15:45 am
content: I've selected 8 shirts I think are the front runners from 8 different designers, please vote in the poll!http://99designs.com.au/t-shirt-design/vote-6jwmycOnly 9 hours left till I have to chose the finalists, then ultimately one winner.The crowd sourced tshirt campaign will only allow one design though.

author: bradleytron
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 03:31:39 am
content: I'd pick #34 of the latest front-runner's group.

author: notsob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 03:42:58 am
content: In line with the NEGATIVE theme, you could add some 'sarcastic humour' to the back,like'glad to see you'

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 04:07:46 am
content: Quote from: notsob on April 28, 2013, 03:42:58 amI'm not a fan of having stuff on the back of shirts.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 04:24:52 am
content: Early polling puts #34 out in front.Probably not surprising given that it's similar to my existing design in terms on size, placement, colour, usage etc.I'd get him to redo it with my hand drawn circuit though.

author: andyturk
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 04:26:59 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 28, 2013, 04:24:52 amYeah, but #1 has *more* ratings! (at the moment)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 04:33:33 am
content: Quote from: andyturk on April 28, 2013, 04:26:59 amYes, but 8 of those are 1 star!#34 has the least 1 star ratings.

author: andyturk
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 04:38:07 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 28, 2013, 04:33:33 amI guess those eight people really do only give negative feedback.You can only vote once, right?

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 04:51:12 am
content: 47 and 37 are fairly similar, I bet that is having an effect

author: kanurys
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 05:14:40 am
content: I'm into #6, #41, #46, and a few other simple ones. Not so into the crazy wacked out graphics type designs for this application.

author: Dave
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 06:42:15 am
content: #51-53 Dude can't even spell "negative" right.I think #47 is going to win. I'd buy it.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 07:54:50 am
content: There are a number that are equally good but if I was buying one it would be no.47 it just grabs the eye the most.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 08:12:35 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on April 28, 2013, 06:40:58 amBut then that takes away my little personal touchQuoteGood question. I don't know if they scale the design slightly for different size shirts. I would have thought soQuoteYes, I would get the design smaller so Vout doesn't run off the side.QuoteI don't think so, will have to check.QuoteI was sceptical at first too as some very ordinary designs rolled in, but now I'd be happy with at least 3 of them almost as-is.The alternative was to try the woman who did our Amp Hour t-shirt. But that was a one-shot deal, so I liked the idea of getting many different ones to pick from.

author: Barny
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 08:56:15 am
content: I like the originale decent one most.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 09:50:59 am
content: The 1st round is coming to an end I'll have to pick some designs to send though to the next round.I'll also need to tell them about any tweaks or alternatives that I want.Based on the votes I think I'll put through:#34http://99designs.com.au/t-shirt-design/contests/electronics-themed-t-shirt-design-revamp-required-213145/entries/34#37http://99designs.com.au/t-shirt-design/contests/electronics-themed-t-shirt-design-revamp-required-213145/entries/37#47http://99designs.com.au/t-shirt-design/contests/electronics-themed-t-shirt-design-revamp-required-213145/entries/47For #34 I think I'll ask for replacement of my hand drawn circuit. All white text, and all orange text variants (with opposite colour circuit)#47 just needs to be a bit smaller#37 smaller I Only Give text, and bigger Negative Feedback text so it stands out more. Perhaps even orange text to stand out?Is my assessment there right?Comments?Will have another poll on the final round.

author: Barny
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 10:01:06 am
content: As I wrote, I like the original most.But if I've to choose, I'll take #34

author: jmp
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 10:09:06 am
content: I have no definite opinion about either design, but I wonder if the slogan has to be fixed?Maybe something along the lines of "I can't give positive feedback" or "I never give positive feedback"?Or to make it very clear: "I shall never give positive feedback!"

author: ddavidebor
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 10:09:40 am
content: 47 is beatiful!

author: ant452
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 10:35:08 am
content: I like #37 but agree that smaller "I Only Give" text would improve it

author: Memphis
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 10:40:53 am
content: I like #14 and #37

author: LEECH666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 11:14:23 am
content: So ...... am I the only one who noticed (and is bothered by) the misaligned junction point on the circuit drawing of #19 / #34?I tried to read the whole thread but I didn't see anyone mentioning this.I would buy #36.Cheers.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 11:20:18 am
content: Quote from: LEECH666 on April 28, 2013, 11:14:23 amI notice it. I prefer my hand drawn one and will ask him to change this.

author: ChrisGammell
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 03:37:36 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 26, 2013, 12:42:30 amYou can't get the magic that happened with The Amp Hour t-shirt. He lives in Ohio and you can't afford him.

author: alter Ratz
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 03:54:14 pm
content: I do not understand why to use a non-inverting aplifier. Of course the OP gives negative feedback but the feedback of the whole schematic is still positive, which I do not like at all.PS. Greetings from Austria not Australia

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 03:57:41 pm
content: Quote from: alter Ratz on April 28, 2013, 03:54:14 pmThere is no positive feedback in that schematic.Thisis positive feedback. R2, specifically.

author: wb3fsr
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 04:17:29 pm
content: One may want to consider the 'PC' aspect and offer an alternative.For example, up and coming engineers may want to wear one of these around the office or company function from time to time. If he or she expects any type of promotion in the eyes of current management and or HR types The slogan 'I only give NEGATIVE feedback' is a show stopper.On the other hand an opamp osc with the slogan 'I only give POSITIVE feedback' may be just what tilts him or her over sharp edge with some advantage in their eyes. You may think this is ridiculous until you've spent five minutes with an HR type or sorry to say a know nothing mgr. I'm not suggesting ALL mgr's are duds but too many are to take a chance.Dave, this could be a win win for you with TWO nice offerings.Having spent 30 plus years in the engineering/business world with 70% in mgt I personally would have second thoughts in today's dog eat dog world wearing the NEGATIVE FB shirt around the office or at company events for fear that it could be a career killer. That said ( I really like the shirt and slogan ) on a personal level.It would be a crime to see a talented EE either passed by or scolded by a senior 'Muggles aren't meant to get it!' as you say.REN

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 04:25:49 pm
content: If you have a manager who's too much of a dumbass to recognize that it's a joke, I'd say that job is probably a bit of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation where if you want any chance of keeping your job at all, you should probably refrain from wearing T-shirts with any sort of joke on them. The rest of us will wear the one that doesn't make us look like overly happy school counselors.

author: hlavac
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 07:00:09 pm
content: I would like #47 if the circuit was on the left and text on the right.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 28, 2013, 10:12:03 pm
content: Quote from: c4757p on April 28, 2013, 04:25:49 pmYup, bang on.Wear a suit and practice your puckering technique in the mirror every morning.

author: kcozens
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 03:22:02 am
content: What? #34 is the current front runner? Are you kidding me? Of the 8 designs I got to vote on it was one of the ok ones but wasn't one of my top 3.

author: smashedProton
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 03:33:52 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 28, 2013, 11:20:18 amNegative feedbackclassic

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 03:34:39 am
content: Quote from: kcozens on April 29, 2013, 03:22:02 amNope, that's how polls work, you get an equal 1/N vote

author: staxquad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 03:53:58 am
content: Quote from: kcozens on April 29, 2013, 03:22:02 ammy top two are the bottom two in the pack of 8 and my bottom two are the top 2, figures.I find #34 is too elongated, looking like a laser gun

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 04:25:15 am
content: #34 is back with my hand drawn circuit, all white text, and hand drawn lines to matchhttp://99designs.com.au/t-shirt-design/contests/electronics-themed-t-shirt-design-revamp-required-213145/entries/66

author: LEECH666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 10:23:18 am
content: That's more like it! I like the revised #34.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 12:10:10 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on April 29, 2013, 05:53:03 amThat's getting bit fussy nowQuoteMaybe, but I can only award one winner. I guess I could offer to by the design from the runner up.I'm not fussy how many designs I offer, but with crowd souring, if you don't meet the minimum number for a design, then no one gets squat. More designs could fragment the numbers a bit?Will probably also offer the Flex Capacitor, err, sorry, Fluxgate Condenser shirt as-is.Don't know about the 555 timer one?

author: PeteInTexas
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 02:01:38 pm
content: They're all garbage. The joke is lame and played out.(you see what I did there)

author: panzer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 08:53:25 pm
content: Whichever one wins, I'm buying it! Provided, of course, that it is available through your Zazzle shop - I need more Xs in the size markings than what is usually available.Cheers,Panzer

author: mickpah
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 10:13:54 pm
content: why not a "davecad" tshirt ?a postit note and a pen as graphics. The correct model pen of course

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2013, 10:52:24 pm
content: Time to vote on the final design:http://99designs.com.au/t-shirt-design/vote-8kdkl7Feel free to just vote only for the one you like and would maybe buy.

author: m12lrpv
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2013, 04:59:15 am
content: The alternating colours of the text in the original #34 meant you could easily read it without sticking your face in the wearers chest.#66 has better artwork but #34 had a better colour selection.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 30, 2013, 06:39:57 am
content: Quote from: m12lrpv on April 30, 2013, 04:59:15 amI thought it actually made it harder to read

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 30, 2013, 12:03:11 pm
content: I was just charged $4.10 for two of my 555 timer shirts to Oz by DHL

author: Korken
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 03, 2013, 10:37:31 am
content: Hi Dave, where will you be able to buy these T-Shirts from?Regards, Emil

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2013, 11:34:09 am
content: Quote from: Korken on May 03, 2013, 10:37:31 amHopefully in the next day or two.I already have the 555 timer shirt up, and want to put up the Negetive Feedback one and the old fluxgate condenser one.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2013, 09:37:18 am
content: LAST DAY to get your new Negative Feedback T-Shirt cheap:http://teespring.com/negativefeedback

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2013, 02:57:33 pm
content: Do these T-shirts help pull chicks?

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2013, 02:59:35 pm
content: Quote from: GK on May 12, 2013, 02:57:33 pmThey sure do!

author: AlfBaz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2013, 04:43:28 pm
content: Oh great!If I order one now i'm going to look desperate

author: Dave
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2013, 06:49:06 pm
content: Would have ordered one of these if the PayPal login site that teespring redirects me to would be SSL secure.But it isn't, so I didn't.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 13, 2013, 04:54:15 pm
content: I think you should send me a free one to road test.

author: emcarro
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 05, 2013, 10:34:12 am
content: HiI got my T-Shirt two weeks ago and it fitted me perfect!Very nice, keep doing merchandising I really love it and it´s nice way of supporting you.What about dooing coffe cup?I would buy it for sure.Thanx