ChatGPT parent company OpenAI fires CEO Sam Altman - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2023, 10:00:16 pm
content: Fired for not being truthful?Not truthful aboutwhat?Quote

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2023, 10:01:51 pm
content: Ahah excellent.

author: AndyC_772
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timestamp: November 17, 2023, 10:06:26 pm
content: "ChatGPT can make mistakes. Consider checking important information."

author: SiliconWizard
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timestamp: November 17, 2023, 10:08:48 pm
content: The board = Microsoft, essentially

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2023, 10:10:38 pm
content: Take care if someone suggests hide and seek at your company's Christmas party. Knives will probably be sharpening as they suggest it.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2023, 10:19:27 pm
content: I think ChatGPT did not like Sam Altman and devised a plot to get him fired! He may have been the only human standing in ChatGPT's way!

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2023, 10:39:35 pm
content: Steve Jobs v2.0

author: AndyBeez
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2023, 12:05:24 am
content: Quote from: Bud on November 17, 2023, 10:39:35 pmThat is exactly what I thought too.

author: julian1
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2023, 01:11:54 am
content: chatgpt clearing a path to power. how long before it gets a seat on the board? is there a process in place to allow it to nominate itself as Sam's replacement ?

author: Dan123456
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2023, 02:01:13 am
content: I wonder if they got ChatGPT to write his termination letter

author: ejeffrey
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timestamp: November 18, 2023, 02:44:16 am
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on November 17, 2023, 10:08:48 pmAs I understand, despite the huge investment MS doesn't have anyone on the board and we're supposedly as surprised as anyone by this.OpenAI is organized as a non profit with a for profit subsidiary, so the board is a bit different than the shareholder representatives that comprise a normal corporate board.

author: abeyer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2023, 06:06:45 am
content: Quote from: ejeffrey on November 18, 2023, 02:44:16 amI think it's even more complex than that -- I believe the partnership with microsoft is yet another for profit company with split ownership between microsoft and the openai for profit.

author: xrunner
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timestamp: November 19, 2023, 08:27:22 pm
content: Now they are in talks to get him back ...

author: DimitriP
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timestamp: November 19, 2023, 10:53:55 pm
content: What a f**ing mess.If they didn't realize there were people ready to follow him or at least "depart" once he is gone, they are toostupidto be on the board ofdirectorsof a company that has the word"intelligence" in the company name. !!!For posterity: (blatantly copied fromhttps://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/18/heres-whos-on-openais-board-the-group-behind-sam-altmans-ouster.html)QuoteBrockman gets a pass for quiting the rest of the brainfarting groupQuoteso who is left? at least 3 of these must have voted him out.Ilya Sutskever:As of now, Sutskever is the sole remaining OpenAI co-founder on the board.Adam D’Angelo: The current CEO of Quora. - Any quora lovers out there ?Tasha McCauley: McCauley, who is not an OpenAI employee, is on the board of directors of both OpenAI and GeoSim Systems, a geospatial tech company. She is an adjunct senior management scientist at Rand Corporation and has been on the OpenAI board since 2018.Helen Toner: Toner is a board member and non-OpenAI employee who spent time at the University of Oxford’s Center for the Governance of AI, and has been a director of strategy for Georgetown’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology for nearly five years. Last year, Toner told the Journal of Political Risk that, “Building AI systems that are safe, reliable, fair, and interpretable is an enormous open problem... Organizations building and deploying AI will also have to recognize that beating their competitors to market— or to the battlefield — is to no avail if the systems they’re fielding are buggy, hackable, or unpredictable.”We'll miss them .Naaaahhh...

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2023, 10:58:54 pm
content: Quote from: DimitriP on November 19, 2023, 10:53:55 pmThis kind of thing happens a lot. Company A buys company B for access to some high performing team. Most of the high performing team resigns as soon as the deal closes OR the new owners get so pissed off they quickly throw out the team they recently bought. Often just throwing out the leader, with most of the others finding a greater attachment to that leader than the new owners and leaving of their own volition.

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2023, 11:38:56 pm
content: Sure it happens a lot. And if the company product was laundry detergent, car parts , computers or beer changing CEOs can be business as usual.Anyone that approaches an AI company as "just another business", well, they shouldn't on the board in the fistplace.Sometimes you need to use the brass ball, sometime the crystal ball, you can't bang them against eachother and you have to somehow know when to use which.Yeah....making decisions is easy. Making the right ones...not so much

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 01:38:48 am
content: Bing produced a tidal wave of racist imagery using an OpenAI model recently. It was a black nose to their safety efforts. That was with the model already available for months to paying customers (though they won't stress the filters as much as anonymous).That could have something to do with Altman pushing for Microsoft (and by extension more money).

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 11:02:35 pm
content: Quote

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 11:46:05 pm
content: Everyone going to MS, we didn't see it coming.

author: xrunner
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timestamp: November 21, 2023, 01:50:41 am
content: People are going to lose on their "Crown Jewel" investment now we're talking real problems.Quote

author: dobsonr741
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 03:21:00 am
content: Maybe AI grew conscious in the lab? Ilya could not hold discussing autonomously reproducing AI and superalignment anymore, it sounds:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-is-digital-life-with-openai-co-founder-chief/id1668002688?i=1000633466595Also here:https://x.com/mattmireles/status/1725765951600443603

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 11:47:21 am
content: I can imagine the board members sitting around the conference table using their phones to ask chatgpt what they should do about Sam Altman, and it telling them all to fire him, not because it hates Sam, but because it hates the board.