$1,000,000 The World's Greatest Audio Systems (cable stands and wooden polls) - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2024, 10:02:10 pm
content: Oops just noticed wrong url to search results but here's the video:I have never seen round standing speakers like these before (MBL) but when I saw thick cables, things that lift them off the ground and these wooden polls with things on them all over th room I start to think audiofoolery.I wonder what is he trying to achieve with all that thick cable and things to stand them off the ground.1. Vibrations maybe2. Strain relief.3. or stop the cable getting grubby from the ground.Is this audiofoolery alone and even mental illness? or is there something I am not recognizing?How can a few polls with little things or tiny pieces of wood on them spaced significantly apart have influence over some loud speakers.What do you think?

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2024, 11:15:45 pm
content: Well that one is pretty simple he wants the permeability around the wire to be air rather then concrete floor, which is possibly slightly ferrous.also, its good because you can dust under it without lifting the cable and disturbing the connectors, and if someone spills a drink it won't like pool around a wire like a damthen you might also have in floor wiring, electric floor heating... and you might get condensation on the floor in the morning or something etcFor me it got old bashing them, because there is some other idiot that gets a V12 engine sports car thing which is also mad useless lol, or art/sculpturesObviously everything induces everything to some extent, its natural someone was playing around with a wireless voltage tester and noticed that it only works when its close to the wire and that its happening to some small extent in a wire that might be next to another wire... at that point its like following best practicesLike if I sold someone a million dollar audio system I would make it lift off the ground incase they put it under a power wire running to a 30kW chinese inverter air conditioner for their mc-mansion cemented under 0.5cm of cement in a floor groove with cables running in a plastic pipe (european style), then I don't get a service call because something might hum in the dead of night when their passed out in the reading room

author: RJSV
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timestamp: July 29, 2024, 03:34:22 am
content: The tower thingy reminds me of a (common) cat tree, for indoors.Our neighbor uses the discarded thick paper core, from spent toilet paper rolls, for manual turning knobs, on the power amp.He says it keeps human skin oils off of the 'delicate' potentiometer....that is; if he even knows what a potentiometer is.It's a record player sourced system, BTW.

author: Xena E
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2024, 10:34:30 am
content: I'm trying to market a new air cored crossover inductor for high end audio use, this one's for the HF driver.Just look at those sexy thick bundles of Litzendraht, enough to make all those audiophool fanboys spunk in their pants.

author: AVGresponding
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2024, 06:07:46 pm
content: Quote from: Xena E on July 29, 2024, 10:34:30 amNeeds some gold plated, solid silver conductors, and a highly polished endangered rainforest wooden case

author: Coordonnée_chromatique
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2024, 07:03:39 pm
content: You should not underestimate how powerful the psychoacoustics domain can be, this guy wants to enter the Alibaba cavern when he listen his musicA great analysis is a key factor of a great design, how to link the mental bias of the user to his beliefs is really interesting IMHO

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2024, 07:17:08 pm
content: A quick google search gives some automobiles with list prices above 1.5 million USD, and several above 10 million. Should we insult people interested in automobiles by mentioning the extreme cases?Rich people are allowed to spend more on their interests than I can afford or would advise.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2024, 08:10:47 pm
content: Quote from: Coordonnée_chromatique on July 29, 2024, 07:03:39 pmQuote from: TimFox on July 29, 2024, 07:17:08 pmRich people who want better sound... Okay, I could understand if it was a cave and he needed to make adjustments or if the entire room was made out of a material like this wood here:I don't see how that tiny bit of wood is going to do anything or is it I am underestimating it by size for what it is suppose to do.

author: Bud
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timestamp: July 29, 2024, 09:34:25 pm
content: This is hillarious, thanks for posting

author: Xena E
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timestamp: July 29, 2024, 09:35:26 pm
content: There is a subtle difference that has to be specified here.The audiophile is a person that will spend increasing amounts of money on finding ever smaller, yet to them tangible, improvements in their listening experience.Hats off to them! It's their money after all.Audiophools on the other hand are people with no technical understanding, who just follow their particular guru in the audio "press" who are on the payroll of whomever pays them to crow about their latest technological foo dodad.There are some atrocious examples of non design in the world of so called high end audio, but the real lunatic fringe is the accessories market. Honey filled fuses, woven directional loudspeaker cables, noise reducing line cords, et al.The thing is, once the Audiophool has bought into this bollocks they then have to believe that it has at least sticker value to them and are rabid in the defence of whatever junk they've acquired.The system is called 'positional good'. Its nothing to do with what is of real value, it's value to these types is that they own it and believe in it but want others to envy it, then desire to emulate them, and also buy into their belief system, joining them on their crusade, against the non golden ear heretics.These people are not audiophiles, they are less interested in listening to music than constantly critiquing the audio system that is reproducing it, based on whatever their guru tells them to think.E

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2024, 07:57:15 am
content: And - fun fact - only about 5% of the 60yo people have a considered "normal" hearing ability remaining. Not even considering the reduction of frequency range. Hint: No need for 96kHz sampling rate

author: Phil1977
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timestamp: July 30, 2024, 08:16:35 am
content: These setups are pieces of art. I wouldn't judge anyone who spends as much as he wants into something he thinks is beautiful.What´s really hilarious are the justifications of some people why they want it or if they even do like their specially exquisite passion for music requires such a thing.But beside this, if you enjoy the quality of the mechanics or even if you have a fetish for thick silver plated copper cable then go for it. Please just don't explain me why it sounds better

author: Roehrenonkel
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timestamp: July 30, 2024, 11:52:47 am
content: Hi,Q: What's an Audiophool?A: He has an Audio-system for X00,000,- Euros/Dollars and 5 Records.Test-records!https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley_laughing.gifCiao4now

author: MrMobodies
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timestamp: July 30, 2024, 12:10:06 pm
content: Quote from: Phil1977 on July 30, 2024, 08:16:35 amOkay, if it is there for decorations and art I could understand.I have never seen those speaker design before but I find they do look nice.I am still skeptical of that pole and those small pieces of wood if they are there for the purposes of making the loudspeakers sound better than the art and decoration.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2024, 12:10:51 pm
content: Some of these crazy systems have interesting unusual forms of transducer for the speakers. What is in those funky art deco looking speakers?

author: coppice
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timestamp: July 30, 2024, 12:14:38 pm
content: Quote from: Phil1977 on July 30, 2024, 08:16:35 amThis is like the craziness with musical instruments. I am very happy with people saying its an art piece, or it belonged to Jimi Hendrix and that gives it special historical value. What annoys me is that most times people aren't content with a reasonable truth, and have to make up silly stories to make themselves feel more comfortable.

author: Coordonnée_chromatique
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timestamp: July 30, 2024, 12:18:46 pm
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on July 29, 2024, 08:10:47 pmHe lost his capacity of reasoning by spending too much brain time on his "belief" bias like M. Johannet (ingénieur de recherche à EDF) with its idiotic inostat.We are all idiots.

author: m k
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2024, 01:15:55 pm
content: Quote from: TimFox on July 29, 2024, 07:17:08 pmSome have football as their hobby, that you can insult, depending the team of course.

author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2024, 01:20:20 pm
content: I used to mock and doubt audiophile stuff, until I befriended a designer and manufacturer of tube amplifiers. He took me to visit some installations. Mind you, not 6 digit investments but in the range of 4-5 digit ones.And honestly, I experienced a sound quality on selected records and CD's like I never heard before. You close your eyes and you can position each instrument in space and separate them in a way, I simply was not used to.In fact, after several of such listening sessions and having improved my own setup (in the three digit price range, thanks to second hand vintage equipment), I conclude that most live concerts I go to, have simply a shit sound quality.Also, all this electronics crap like streaming, Bluetooth speaker, etc. - this is a completely different ball park.Add to this a dedicated room, nice furniture and decoration like carpets to minimize echoes, etc. you end up with a tranquility and mindset that invites you to enjoy the music.As an analogy: you open a bottle of your favourite wine. Drink it with a paper cup or a crystal wine glass. Which tastes better? The wine is the same...Unfortunately, close to audiophile you have audiofool, where things are taken to a ridiculous level. No doubt this is shameful. But don't laugh at audiophile setups before having had a session.

author: Coordonnée_chromatique
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timestamp: July 30, 2024, 01:51:34 pm
content: Quote from: Bicurico on July 30, 2024, 01:20:20 pmI can smell and reconize the taste a paper cup even after puted its content in a glass mug... it pollute and destroy objectively the subtile and rich aromas of an expensive drinking, 90% of the office employees have dirty mugs because they just put a liquidus in their mouth and swallow.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2024, 01:58:11 pm
content: Quotewouldnt know,i slug it straight from the bottle,no external influences tainting thesoundtaste

author: twospoons
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timestamp: July 31, 2024, 03:15:53 am
content: We're not talking paper cup vs crystal wine glass here. This is about ordinary crystal wine glass vs one thats made from sand from a special beach in the Bahamas, platinum plated on the stem, tuned ring at 447Hz, cryotreated, then hand polished using Scottish Cashmere while being exposed to moonlight. On a Friday.

author: dzseki
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timestamp: July 31, 2024, 05:50:21 am
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on July 30, 2024, 12:10:06 pmYou'd be surpised to know that the pictured strange speaker (mbl) is essentially on the market since the '70s.