Nvidia GTX 1080 & 1070 EVGA Cards Reportedly Catching Fire overheating VRM - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Homer J Simpson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2016, 12:16:35 am
content: Interesting read."Unfortunately a good VRM design is not complete without a sufficient cooling solution and EVGA completely skipped the latter."http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-1070-evga-cards-dying/?utm_source=traqli&utm_medium=onsite&utm_campaign=266

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 01, 2016, 12:22:41 am
content: That picture suggests some short on the back side of the PCB. Looks like shorted ceramic cap. Nothing to do directly with VRM overheat.

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2016, 11:58:48 pm
content: Video cards now require a ridiculous amount of power, and that much power directly translates to heat. I think eventually they'll have to figure something out as already now they require massive heat sinks that take up an extra slot. Maybe we will reach a point where they'll have to use liquid cooling by default with an external radiator.Hitting 100C is not uncommon if loading one to max.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 12:13:13 am
content: Quote from: Red Squirrel on November 02, 2016, 11:58:48 pmAre you talking About AMD R9 Fury X?Particularly GTX 1080 (180W TDP ) and GTX 1070 (150W TDP) are not power hungry at all compared to previous flagship models.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 03:47:23 am
content: Dawww, 170W, how cute.250W with half the heatsink area is a bit more of a challenge, those didn't tend to catch fire.This is more likely a bad batch of ceramic caps or something.

author: JoeN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 05:19:47 am
content: I want a 1080 when they get down to under $400. A non-flaming one. I hope that happens soon.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 11:02:27 am
content: Quote from: JoeN on November 03, 2016, 05:19:47 amOnly used, and won't happen anytime soon.QuoteOnly EVGA was affected.

author: JoeN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 11:07:11 am
content: Quote from: wraper on November 03, 2016, 11:02:27 amI'm patient, I am a long time NVidia customer with a 480GTX right now. The price will surely come down, it always does. They have competition.

author: klaus11
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 11:12:18 am
content: Whoever has Samsung & EVGA will stop for possessing unlicensed weapons

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 11:18:31 am
content: Don't ceramic caps short out with excessive heat? Not sure what 'excessive' is.. if anything above their rating, then there is your problem. I think most VRM's easily get up to 90C+ these days.I also read the issues are caused by people running synthetic loads that stress CPU/GPU's harder than almost every other program will do. FurMark is one example of that one, I believe it was mentioned by EVGA themselves in some kind of press release. Of course that would be very convenient for EVGA, after all FurMark's logo is made of fire.Here are some pic's of EVGA 1080 cards compared to other brands:http://imgur.com/a/XGgn6

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 11:46:42 am
content: Affected their products that have the ACX cooler. The VRMs are hitting ~110C because there are no thermal pads and a too low fan curve.Weird thing is they are saying cards with Samsung memory are fine but the ones with Micron are causing black screen issues. Seems Samsung memory is less susceptible to heat.

author: Aodhan145
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 11:53:56 am
content: I will always buy gigabyte cards, they always tend to have the best features in terms of ports, air coolers and just the general aesthetics.http://imgur.com/a/XGgn6The gigabyte one there even has the best VRM cooling and the most amount of copper. They are a great brand and worth the money when you go to spend hundreds of pounds on a card.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 12:14:49 pm
content: Quote from: JoeN on November 03, 2016, 11:07:11 amNew GTX 1080 will cost $400 only when it is becomes obsolete and not worth worth to buy, and, probably, will be discontinued even before that. Price already has came down significantly from the original. Buying GTX 1070 now makes much more sense than waiting 1.5 years to buy a used GTX 1080 at the same price when next generation GPU will be already out. $400 is the average price a used GTX 980ti currently sells on ebay. And GTX 1070 hasthe sameperformance and costs the samenew, but burns much less electricity. GTX 1060 is on par with GTX 980 and is even cheaper than used GTX 980.

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 12:45:46 pm
content: The ti version of the 1080 is rumored to be announced at ces next jan and released shortly after; I think the current 1080 cards will likely price drop when that happens

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 01:19:37 pm
content: Who knows? The Titan increased so nVIDIA have a gap that could put the Ti at around $850-$1000.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 01:55:07 pm
content: Quote from: JoeN on November 03, 2016, 11:07:11 amBTW if you can live with that kind of performance, then I don't get why need top end card. It's much cheaper to by 1-2 levels below top end (where price/performance ratio is never that good). Well, you might want to replace it, say 1/2 - 1 year earlier, but you will still save the money and get better average performance over the years, than if sitting on one card for 5-6 years.I myself have GTX1080, bought when when cards with custom coolers appeared and price became good enough (EUR 614).

author: JoeN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 02:09:04 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on November 03, 2016, 01:55:07 pmThe 480GTX performs well for the games that I actually still mess with. That's not to say I wouldn't like it to run with better draw distance or higher quality settings, or maybe on a 4K monitor which I would have to buy with the new card.

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 06:13:58 pm
content: My 480 worked OK for the games I play, but I upgraded it to a 970 to save power AND now in those same games I can crank everything to max at 1080.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 06:15:27 pm
content: I know I don't need ridiculous performance just to play games. I was real close to getting a 1060 until they announced the 1050s.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 06:55:42 pm
content: Quote from: rdl on November 03, 2016, 06:15:27 pmWhy? 1050 is a piss poor GPU compared to 1060, two times lower performance, exactly the same as GTX 950

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 03:26:38 pm
content: Because it's way cheaper than the 2x better GTX1060, but still a huge improvement over the GTX550 Ti, which is what I use now. The lack of memory is what really concerns me. I can't see 2 GB being adequate for very long, so I will probably end up with a 1060 after all.

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 03:28:58 pm
content: Just avoid the 1060 3GB models as it's considerably worse than the 6GB ones.2GB will be fine though for a considerable time yet. 4GB is still working well even at 4K.

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 03:56:03 pm
content: Quote from: RGB255_0_0 on November 04, 2016, 03:28:58 pmI was looking at the 1060 for a friend last week, the 3gb and 6gb benchmarks are very close, generally ~10% difference or less. The 3gb models has more frame rate dropouts, but generally not major. and there are only like 1-2 current games that have major over fps changes between 3gb and 6gb models. Lifetime usability somewhat questionable though (more games in future likely to use extra available vram).... my take was if you're the kind to upgrade frequently, 3gb likely ok. If you're the type to buy and hold or want the best, then go 6gb.

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 05:42:53 pm
content: 10% difference is about right as it has 10% less texture units, and 3.9 TFlOPs vs 4.4 on the 6GB. I'd say the 6GB version would hold its value for a bit longer even if the extra VRAM may be superfluous.I'm doing pretty fine on my 3.5GB (ahem +500MB) VRAM on my GTX 970 at 1440p even in BF 1 and GTA V.

author: anker_by
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 05:53:15 pm
content: https://www.techpowerup.com/227424/evga-gtx-1070-1080-overheating-issues-update-new-bios-revision-to-be-releasedlol, they made one update for that 'issues'.. but ppl is complain about that..