Fake outlet prank at airport - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 19, 2017, 10:51:36 pm
content: This is a good idea of a prank video. I watched it a few months ago, and it's one where everybody laughed, nobody was offended or hurt, and that was genuinely funny/entertaining to watch.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 21, 2017, 07:24:10 am
content: No, I'm sorry, I disagree.Homer: You normally post links to some pretty awesome videos. But this is just stupid and appeals to the mostly brain dead community of "average people". This is the kind of crap click bait and fake news is made of. It did not deserve my view stat.Go back to posting educational and vintage tech stuff!

author: Barny
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 21, 2017, 08:11:26 am
content: Sadly with our "Schuko" outlets make it inpossible to make this prank here because the whole plug is recessed into the wall.

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 21, 2017, 08:29:49 am
content: There are surface mounting schukos

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 21, 2017, 01:34:51 pm
content: I wonder how the guys behind this channel avoid litigation

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 21, 2017, 02:42:23 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on May 21, 2017, 07:24:10 amIt appealed to me. I found it funny, and a good idea for a joke to be played on someone. If you don't like it that's you.Also it's entirely possible to do that with a Shucko plug, because if you make it short enough, the pins will still hit the wall (They will go deeper than the rest of the plug.

author: Falcon69
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 21, 2017, 07:07:41 pm
content: ROFLwhat the hell are they going to say?"Your Honor Judge Guy, I was stealing this bike and went to sit down and it burned my ass! I'm gonna sue for being a dumbass!"From my understanding, if You are committing a crime in the US, and get hurt along the way or ripped off, you can't sue for that. Like a Crack addict goes to buy some crack, and the dealer runs off with the money. The Police won't do anything to help get your money back.But, then again, there have been successful lawsuits of someone breaking in to another persons home to steal their TV or something, and then suing because they slipped and fell on the floor inside the house.

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 21, 2017, 07:15:07 pm
content: Quote from: GK on May 21, 2017, 01:34:51 pmBecause it's fake.

author: yada
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 21, 2017, 07:38:05 pm
content: I bought a house where the phone lines were all like that. Never noticed until I was painting one day and took it off only to find it was just screwed into the drywall. Also the place a mirror that was glued on to the sheet rock with no paint behind them. So the contractor put this stuff up. I have no idea what the previous people did since it was built in the 1980's and using a cell phone wouldn't have worked as they were away from the main roads, plus that would have been expensive. The chimney was also fire proofed but not at the very top so almost all the houses eventually caught on fire. A fine example of "good enough" craftsmanship.

author: Falcon69
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 21, 2017, 07:43:51 pm
content: They do that here also.They will install cable and phone jacks, without a box. Just screw the faceplate into the sheetrock. They pull out so easy.It's low voltage stuff, so it is not required to go into a box. But it does suck. Any small movement of the cable or phone cord, and out comes the faceplate, ripping the sheetrock with it.Usually if I run into a remodel project and I see this, I'll mention it to the customer, and they often pay for a cut-in box to be put in place.Like you said, 'good enough' craftsmanship at its finest.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2017, 11:02:19 pm
content: Quote from: Falcon69 on May 21, 2017, 07:07:41 pmUnfortunately any sort of boobytrap is illegal and a thief really could press charges and/or sue. I despise thieves so I personally wish it were legal to do this sort of thing but it isn't.Using bait and apprehending thieves is legal though, but you have to be there to physically witness the crime and apprehend them, you can't just inure them.

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2017, 01:16:45 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on May 21, 2017, 07:24:10 amWell I disagree with your opinion, not stupid, just good humor where nobody is hurt. But I do agree with you that vintage tech stuff is cool.

author: yada
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2017, 01:57:56 am
content: Quote from: james_s on May 26, 2017, 11:02:19 pmI saw a police video show like cops where they went to a bad area and put this 3000$ Mercedes mountain bike outside a building and just waited for someone to ride off on it. How is that stopping crime? If the bike wasn't left out there would be no opportunity to steal it. I have also heard of the cops selling drugs to people then busting them for possession of drugs. Who know how many bikes were stolen because the cops were watching the "bait" bike instead of a real persons bike. They are creating criminals when they do this. If you are hungry and desperate and some dumb rich asshole leaves his bike out with no lock, that's going to tempt people who normally wouldn't steal to steal, and after court they will have a record that will keep them from getting a job, encouraging more stealing.

author: mdszy
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 27, 2017, 02:22:21 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on May 21, 2017, 07:24:10 amNORMIES REEEEEE

author: P90
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2017, 02:42:55 am
content: ...and after court they will have a record that will keep them from getting a job, encouraging more stealing.boo hooDON'T be a fvcking thief and you won't have that problem...

author: Falcon69
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2017, 05:21:26 am
content: Quote from: yada on May 27, 2017, 01:57:56 amWhat I can't understand is it is okay for police officers to deal drugs, but it is illegal for other people to do so. I just don't get it.Technically, the police officer sold drugs to that person, yet, the police officer and others involved do not get busted either.I guess it's the old saying, "Do as I say, not as I do." when it comes to the law!?And, yes, I know the criminal can still sue for getting hurt while stealing that guys bike, and personally I think it is a bunch of BS. If the guy proceeds to knowingly commit a crime, he should be able to accept any punishment/torture/deaththat may come with it, after all, he had a choice to steal the bike or not. Unfortunately, the law isn't written that way, these days, the criminal has more rights than the victim.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2017, 04:22:28 pm
content: Quote from: yada on May 27, 2017, 01:57:56 amBecause if they didn't steal that bike, they'd steal a different bike and the bait and capture gets them off the streets. Would you steal a bike if it was left unattended? I wouldn't, honest people don't steal stuff no matter how easy it is to do. It doesn't matter rich or how much of an asshole the owner is, that doesn't make it ok to steal their belongings. If it were up to me I'd have bait operations like this going on 24/7 in every city. Car thieves are even worse, used to be they would hang horse thieves and I wish they'd do the same to car thieves. Stealing someone's transportation is stealing their livelihood, it's more than a simple possession.I think you would find that very few people who get busted by those bait programs are first time offenders, and in most cases the theft is not a felony and it's not going to prevent them from finding some sort of job. Either way they should have thought of that before deciding to take a shortcut and steal something that wasn't theirs. Having been a victim of theft before myself I have zero sympathy. I worked hard for the stuff I have and it's not right for someone to take it from me just because they can.

author: Moondeck
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2017, 04:37:03 pm
content: hahaha very funny prank indeed mwahaha i have had tons of laughs and giggles thank youpranks are always funny haha ha

author: P90
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2017, 12:34:12 am
content: Quote from: james_s on May 27, 2017, 04:22:28 pmI had two bicycles stolen from me, when I was a wee kid, and once again when in high school... it's a terrible feeling.I too say they should bait 'em, catch 'em, and castrate 'em...You shouldn't steal... that's the government's job...

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2017, 09:21:49 am
content: I agree with the bike thing but the police selling drugs? Please tell me that's not true, at least in the US.Here in the UK, you don't get into much trouble for possessing illicit drugs, so long as it's only a small amount for personal use and many countries have decriminalised them, again for personal use.

author: john_c
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2017, 09:31:27 am
content: Quote from: Hero999 on May 28, 2017, 09:21:49 amIt happens a lot.Here, this was yesterday!http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/off-duty-nypd-arrested-selling-drugs-queens-article-1.3198116

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2017, 04:26:18 pm
content: Quote from: john_c on May 28, 2017, 09:31:27 amWell that doesn't surprise me but the implication was that the police were allowed to sell illicit drugs to unsuspecting people who would get into trouble for buying them.

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2017, 04:34:23 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on May 28, 2017, 04:26:18 pmYes, that is common in the US:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_operation

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2017, 04:43:58 pm
content: Quote from: edavid on May 28, 2017, 04:34:23 pmYes, I believe those are common in polices forces around the world but there's a limit to what the police are legally allowed to do. Hell I agree with a lot of it, such as preventing to be a vulnerable young girl online to catch paedophiles but would draw the line at the law enforcement actually putting child porn on the Internet to catch a pedo.

author: yada
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2017, 06:11:53 pm
content: Quote from: P90 on May 27, 2017, 02:42:55 am...and after court they will have a record that will keep them from getting a job, encouraging more stealing.boo hooDON'T be a fvcking thief and you won't have that problem...OK but that's not how it works. What would you rather have in your city; a bunch of people who are unemployable and have to steal or people who get a fair chance?Its not selling people clean needles because they say it promotes drug use. No it "unpromotes" the spread of AIDS. Do they really think that someone who is hopelessly addicted to heroin is going to quit because they can't get a clean needle? Or are they going to pick one off the ground or share one?Its like abstinace only education in place of free condoms. Look at sarah palins kid: knocked up twice before she turned 18. Think of how much better this country would be if Sarah palin's mother had used a condom.

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2017, 06:40:17 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on May 28, 2017, 04:43:58 pmIt's called entrapment and it does indeed come with restrictions or else the evidence gathered can't be used at trial.Some don't wish any authority to have that kind of power but many, me included, think it's a useful tool to fight crime, and crime must be fought. "Stings" are more often used posing as 'buyers' to catch those selling.

author: john_c
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 06:49:56 am
content: I've sort of lost track of what you're saying, retrolefty. That police should have entrapment power? Or just that they should be allowed to do stings?

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 04:22:20 pm
content: Quote from: john_c on May 29, 2017, 06:49:56 amVery clearly I hope. Entrapment is indeed a planned apprehension tool of considerable power. However as part of the 'rule of law' it should be permitted only if it abides by rules and limits as defined by law including probable cause, court orders, search orders, etc.If your/our society at large does not think this is correct then they can participate in changing the rule as allowed under our 'rule of law'. Otherwise stop picking and choosing their tools and let them do their job.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 04:28:12 pm
content: Entrapment is convincing someone to commit a crime. If you put a bait bicycle there and then had an undercover police officer actively trying to talk someone into stealing it that would be entrapment. It isn't entrapment to just leave a bike unattended, somebody should be able to leave a bike unattended without someone else helping themselves to it.As far as convictions leading to unemployable people, that could be said about any crime. Where do you draw the line? Just let people get away with anything because punishing them for it may lead them back into crime? I'm all for giving someone a second chance, but it's their responsibility to behave themselves if they want to be part of society.

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 04:48:10 pm
content: My favorite 'entrapment' sting story was somewhere back east some time ago (sorry dates/I'm old) was a local city government had like over 100 outstanding but probably minor/non-violent warrants, so they designed a sting where they mailed the 100 a letter saying they won a portion at a lottery payout but had to attend the event to get the cash. So when many attended at startup time they closed the doors and arrested everyone there with a outstanding arrest warrant. After that they were given a court date to appear if they could make the bail amount otherwise stayed in jail until their court date.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 05:21:23 pm
content: That's not entrapment. They didn't entice any of those people to commit a crime, the crimes had already been committed, they only tricked them into showing up to be served their warrant. In order for it to be entrapment, law enforcement has to convince or coerce someone into committing a crime they would not otherwise have committed. Simply providing a convenient opportunity for a crime or tricking someone who already has a warrant into showing up somewhere is not entrapment.

author: retrolefty
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 05:48:07 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on May 29, 2017, 05:21:23 pmYour probably correct but one persons entrapment is another persons sting. It's not the definition that is important but that law enforcement be allowed to use only but all legal tools allowed. If not legal then the court will free the persons involved. And the definer of what is legal entrapment Vs illegal entrapment lays with the courts, everyone else just have their opinions including me.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 07:40:16 pm
content: I agree that the police shouldn't persuade anyone into committing a crime. This is why they have to be careful. For example an online under-aged honeytrap cannot approach the offenders first: it is the offenders who always have to make the first move, otherwise it's clearly entrapment.The law enforcement agencies should not be above the law. I'd disagree with the police doing anything illegal to catch people such as: selling illicit drugs, child pornography etc. I hope if that ever happens, the offending police officers are jailed, as well as those they're trying to catch.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 08:10:17 pm
content: But "entrapment" is a legal term, there is a very specific definition of what entrapment is which law enforcement has to abide by. There is no "legal entrapment", entrapment as defined by the law is illegal. Calling something else "entrapment" doesn't make it so.