Is it worthwhile to get an accredited cal on a 34401A before selling it on eBay? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: KJ-90
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 08:08:33 pm
content: I've always wondered if it's a good idea to have expensive 6.5 digit multi meters like my 34401A get an accredited calibration before selling it on eBay. My unit has a cal count of 86 ( no joke ) and was made in November 2000. However, the meter is from an estate, and the calibration history isn't known. Also, the meter has no cal seals or labels on it. Would getting an accredited calibration( e.g. lab is under NVLAP, ISO17025 ) increase its resale value?

author: jolshefsky
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 08:59:10 pm
content: I guess what does the research say? That is, look at other >5 digit meters and see if you can find a correlation between having a recent calibration and selling for a higher price.My gut instinct and anecdotal experience (~20 sales) on eBay is that any time, money, or effort you put forth to increase the value of an item will not be recovered in the final sale price. Also, note that some specialty items have exactly one bidder—only one person is interested for the duration of the auction. There are two responses to this: broaden the set of possible buyers (e.g. an uncalibrated meter would be interesting to both a tinkerer and one looking for a bargain high-accuracy meter) or set the initial price to a value that is a reasonable selling price so that the expected sole bidder pays that amount.

author: TheSteve
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 09:07:11 pm
content: I'd say no for a 34401A. A higher end meter might be different. If you can verify it operates fine I'd list it here instead. Offer for a little lower then on ebay and not have to pay the ebay 10%.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 09:12:58 pm
content: That's been my experience as well, though I haven't tried selling any gear that high end.Best thing to do is clean it up cosmetically and take lots of pictures showing it working to demonstrate that it is at least functional. I've found that good quality gear generally remains pretty well calibrated even after years. Free shipping seems to help too, for whatever reason a lot of people will buy something with free shipping over an identical item with a shipping charge even if the total cost is less with the shipping. Psychological barrier I guess.

author: PedroDaGr8
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 09:15:53 pm
content: In the USA, there is a service that will do the Cal+Adjust on a 34401A for $75 (including shipping back to you). Not sure if you have something similar/better in Canada.http://4gte.com/calibration-and-repair/Even at this price, it is questionable on if it is worth it. At most it is a break even kinda thing.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 09:57:20 pm
content: The amount you might get extra from a calibration certificate will be insignificant. Probably the calibration will cost you more than you gain. Make sure to show the meter in good working condition in many settings, that will gain you higher profit.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 10:13:57 pm
content: Not worth it. Most buyers won't really care, the ones that do would probably rather pay to get it done themselves, or may have other cal'd gear they can compare with.However if you are selling because you just bought something new, it might be worth checking against the new instrument and mentioning this in the ad.

author: elecman14
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 10:21:33 pm
content: You can view the prices sold for on ebay in previous auctions by clicking on the sold listings check box on the left hand side. A quick search for "34401A calibrated" with that checked should show how the meter has sold in the past. Looks like they are selling for $350 to around $425 calibrated and around the same price maybe a little less without cal.

author: Assafl
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2017, 09:40:39 am
content: Usually - on eBay - what works for me is to reduce doubts that anything I sell is fine. The concerns for an intelligent buyer of a HP34401A would be:1. Passes all tests.2. Fairly accurate in most ranges and functions (so no specific areas of the circuit are busted).3. Display is not dim (as someone stated - take a picture under full light conditions - VFD shot in the dark usually are a concern that the seller is hiding a dim display).4. If you can show stability - as in a long term plot - even better.5. Handle and Bail/bumper condition.6. If you have manuals, or the top book/lead storage pack - show them. Boxes and packing materials and original delivery slips also - that more of this you have demonstrates the fastidious and caring nature of the owner.

author: Neganur
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2017, 10:47:01 am
content: Accredited cal is not worth it (e.g. UKAS or whatever your region is)As buyer I'd only trust a Keysight cal (for a Keysight instrument) since it's a pretty good indication that the device is in good shape and Keysight typically tests everything all the time (also features present but not enabled).Any other renown company's cal certificate is OK too in terms of 'I'd like to know that it is in spec' e.g. Exova or R&S or Tektronix calibration.Any other cal found in eBay I wouldn't necessarily trust, you can buy stickers and fake a printed page that claims in spec.As to spending money on a cal to sell it on eBay, expensive gear yeah I think I'd do it. But you're likely to pay as much as the instrument sells for in your case.

author: CalMachine
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2017, 03:16:43 am
content: Quote from: Neganur on February 23, 2017, 10:47:01 amUnfortunately, OEM and other reputable companies will still give partially disingenious certs.

author: Galaxyrise
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2017, 08:11:44 pm
content: There is a difference to me between "pulled from a working environment", "powers on, unable to test further", and "Look at me making measurements with it". But that's as far as it goes.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2017, 04:18:25 am
content: Yes, "pulled from a working environment" has to be one of the great examples of sales/marketing double-talk.