SETI@Home Project Ending - Page 1
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author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2020, 10:45:35 pm
content: SETI@HomeQuote

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2020, 10:58:33 pm
content: Aww! I used to run that as a screen saver on my 68040-based Mac back in the 90s. (I stopped when I got a newer model that sported sleep mode.)

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2020, 11:04:46 pm
content: Oh I've been active off and on since 1999. I have a Ryzen 7 1700 Linux machine devoted to that project right now. But I think I'm going to be going over to Einstein@Home with my resources. Kind of a bummer it's ending but projects come to and end.

author: I wanted a rude username
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2020, 11:14:04 pm
content: When you think about it statistically, the project was unlikely to ever detect another civilisation.Not only would an advanced civilisation stop emitting inefficiently (i.e. detectably) within 100 years of discovering radio, but within 1,000 years they would began colonising their galaxy. For a galaxy the size of the Milky Way, it would take an estimated 50 million years to colonise every habitable stellar system. A year of galactic time. If we were not the first, they would almost certainly be everywhere else by now. So far it looks like we are the first.This was only worked out mathematically long after the project was in full swing.

author: donotdespisethesnake
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2020, 12:18:51 pm
content: The Fermi paradox is not new, but that paper puts some good numbers on it.I'd always assumed SETI would be looking for intentional transmitters, the odds are too remote to pick up accidental transmissions. SETI folk seem to be abundantly optimistic, and when asked about Fermi paradox just shrug it off. There is a good story about how Frank Drake and Carl Sagan went to a radio telescope to first look for signals from aliens, Sagan was sure there would be an easy to find signal, after only a few hours he got bored and went home. Drake is much more the patient realistic type, and knows that finding even an intentional signal means sifting through vast volumes of space.A negative result should not prove anything, but I think the lack of success so far puts some significant upper bounds on the problem, and has some profound implications. We should hope we are past the Great Filter, and not before it. The less alien life we find, the better for our future prospects. I suspect a combination of the following:a) intelligent life is incredibly rareb) sustaining an advanced civ is hardc) interstellar space travel is really hardd) interstellar comms is limited and really expensiveI'm not really convinced there is any "new technology" that would be practical, like warp drives, wormholes, Dyson spheres, nor even antimatter drives.I assume the first intelligent civ would do exactly what we would do:1) look for signs of alien life2) not finding it, send out probes3) still not finding it, send out colonisers4) just in case of extinction, set up AI beacons/libraries which could inform future civs

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2020, 01:14:52 pm
content: We do not know the bounds of the universe, because whenever we hit against them, we find ways to turn them on their head all over again.There have been very many accomplishments which came not too long after the words, "yeah, right."

author: AndyC_772
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2020, 01:43:40 pm
content: Quote from: I wanted a rude username on March 09, 2020, 11:14:04 pmI'm inclined to agree, but with the caveat that they may begin spreading to other planets if, and only if, it's physically possible to do so.Maybe it is the case that it's simply not possible to pack enough energy into a transportation device to transport any viable organism from one habitable planet to another, within a period of time for which that organism can survive...?If it's a question of "if" rather than "how", then we're all stuck on our home planets, technology notwithstanding.Moreover, since the ratio of (time for which a radio-using civilisation exists) / (age of planet) is so small, we'll probably never hear from each other, much less meet.Shame