Rigol 1052 vs 1102 or 1054 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: Digby
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 21, 2014, 11:51:05 pm
content: Just when I was sure I wanted the 1102, I found out about the 1052 hack, and then the 1054!First question: Is the 1052 upgrade still doable with a new 1052? I was looking for used Rigol scopes, but it seems people are hanging on to them pretty much, and are not selling them for much less than I can get a new one.Second: For a few more bucks, I can simply get the 1102, BUT, now I have to wonder if I need four channels at 50Mhz instead if I get a new, larger screened 1054.I am probably not the only person faced with this choice.Any thoughts?Will be placing an order this week, but now I have to think a bit more.

author: Fsck
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2014, 11:57:21 pm
content: the 1054 is definitely the best choice. there really isn't a point to any other scope in its price bracket in comparison to it.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2014, 12:09:59 am
content: Another vote for the 1054.

author: DanielS
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2014, 12:46:53 am
content: Quote from: Digby on September 21, 2014, 11:51:05 pmConsidering how inexpensive Rigol's scopes are and how much more expensive anything better tends to be, there are very few reasons for anyone to want to sell their used ones - by the time they can buy or can justify buying something better, their older Rigols are likely worth more as a spare/backup than whatever money they might be able to get for them since the new-price is already so low.As for which scope to buy, if you want half-decent signal representation while running quad-channel, 250MSPS is marginally adequate for 50MHz (if you want good time resolution on a ~50MHz signal, you have to drop down to dual or even single channel) so there is not much point aiming higher than the DS1054Z IMO. I plan to buy one as soon as Allied gets it in stock in Canada.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2014, 02:24:49 am
content: Wow! The 1054 is a great value! I have a 1074, and since I presume the 1054 can be hacked, this is an excellent value!

author: Digby
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 22, 2014, 04:38:42 pm
content: I would love to have Dave review the 1054!

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2014, 04:57:55 pm
content: I'm waiting for a rigol MSO1054 !

author: DanielS
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2014, 05:14:49 pm
content: Quote from: Digby on September 22, 2014, 04:38:42 pmI am expecting it to be exactly the same as the DS1074Z/DS1104Z except for the 50MHz software bandwidth limit.

author: Creep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2014, 07:44:31 pm
content: Quote from: kripton2035 on September 22, 2014, 04:57:55 pmIn another thread I saw a statement that neither MSO1054z nor DS1054Z-S will be released. Of course I have no way to actually confirm this information, but it certainly sounds very believable. I don't think rigol wants to totally screw over their mid-range scopes.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2014, 08:00:21 pm
content: Quote from: Creep on September 22, 2014, 07:44:31 pmSeems real enough...Rigol's DS1054Z page.TEquipment's DS1054Z page(states 1st 60 units start shipping on Sept. 23 - 24, 2014)

author: lpc32
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2014, 12:44:57 am
content: If it's confirmed it's the same hardware as the rest of the series, the DS1054Z looks interesting indeed. I held off buying the DS1074Z, but now I'm itching to get the 54 even if it won't see much immediate use.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2014, 04:57:02 am
content: Quote from: nanofrog on September 22, 2014, 08:00:21 pmHe said DS1054Z-SIn response from someone mentioning "I'm waiting for a rigol MSO1054!"No logic analyzer for the 50 hertz crowd, we all know the DS1054Z is out and wonderfully priced, there is no doubt about that at all.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2014, 08:28:59 am
content: Quote from: nanofrog on September 22, 2014, 08:00:21 pmThat-s not a DS1054Z-SoraMSO1054z...I think he's right, I'm not expecting MSO or S versions anytime soon. They have to keep something back for the more professional users.

author: DanielS
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2014, 01:47:20 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on September 23, 2014, 08:28:59 amHaving multiple instruments integrated into one is not so much a matter of professionalism as it is a matter of convenience: an all-in-one saves a fair bit of desk space, uses less power and is somewhat cheaper than an equivalent set of discrete instruments but many "more professional users" like to have knobs and buttons for every major function, and the only way to get those is giving each function their own front panel. With discrete instruments, one instrument failure only takes away one part of your test capabilities while losing one function on your all-in-one means losing all related testing capabilities until the equipment comes back from repair... a "more professional user" likely cannot afford that.So IMO, buying single-function instruments does not make people any more (or less) professional. Each have their own use-cases and each user, pro or beginner, has their own preferences and requirements on top of that.

author: tequipment
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2014, 05:07:56 pm
content: We have about 10 left of the 1st run of the ds1054Z. I wouldnt expect an MSO version or a -s version.ThanksEvanTEquipment.NET

author: alank2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2014, 09:37:42 pm
content: I received mine from tequipment; those guys are great.