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author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2012, 04:14:01 pm
content: quick heads up their look for help restoring old electronicstoo far from me else id straight there iv'e suggested they start up a hackspacehttp://www.tnmoc.org/

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2012, 05:09:41 pm
content: They are in my 'back yard'Located at Bletchley Park in Milton Keynes. I have visited many times and have been impressed with the historic restoration work that has taken place. Since the activities of Station X + Enigma decoding etc during WWII were declassified, the site has become very popular with the public, and businesses for conferences. Its a great day out if you are interested in Station X, Enigma, Cryptography, Diplomatic Wireless or Old computing technology. Did you all know that Britain built the very first electronic computer and not the USA, as was believed ? Its true...Colossus was the first, but was kept as a secret due to its ability to crack codes. Yay ! for Britain... those were the days !I liked the place so much, I got married there !The Foreign & Commonwealth Office has helped with the Diplomatic Wireless exhibits and you can see Crypto equipment there that I never thought would be released for public viewing. GCHQ have also provided some interesting equipment for the cryptography displays.Recommended to anyone who finds themselves in this part of the country.AuroraMilton Keynes

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2012, 07:21:25 pm
content: I knew that the Colossal Colossus was the first 'computer' !Them americans didn't do anythingfirstin computing

author: bullet308
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2012, 07:27:13 pm
content: Well, there was that whole going to the moon thing...

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2012, 09:25:12 pm
content: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! DONT GO THEREThe conspiracy theorists will come pouring out of the woodwork quoting faked lunar pictures and two sources of sunlight on the lunar surface etcAurora

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2012, 10:05:53 pm
content: Quote from: Aurora on June 11, 2012, 09:25:12 pmAla ... Sahara Desert

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 13, 2012, 05:10:57 pm
content: Try building a "stored program" computer with valves

author: Zad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2012, 01:55:21 am
content: It is a fair point, although there was a certain amount of programmability on the later Colossi. The 1949 EDSAC (Cambridge Uni's machine) used mercury storage delay lines, the same system that Turing's Pilot ACE used. Before that though, in 1948, the Manchester University SSEM was using cathode ray tubes (CRTs) to store data. There is quite a lot of information on the relative capabilities of the machines in the biography of Alan Turing.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2012, 03:13:37 am
content: Don't forget Austalia's CSIR Mark I computer that first ran November 1949. It was later renamed the CSIRAC.http://ww2.csse.unimelb.edu.au/dept/about/csirac/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSIRACThe specifications are interesting:Clock speed: 1000Hz with 2 cycles/instruction (initially)Memory: 768 x 20 bits.Power consumption: 30KWAn emulator was written for the CSIRAC with some of the original programs:http://ww2.csse.unimelb.edu.au/dept/about/csirac/emulator.htmlIts power seemed to be limited to tasks like calculating the square root of a number, and playing some music. He is a reconstruction of one of the pieces:http://ww2.csse.unimelb.edu.au/dept/about/csirac/music/ColonelBogey.movI remember as a kid going to electronic junk stores in Sydney and seeing old surplus logic modules. Probably more from industrial control hardware rather then an old computer, but there were these reasonably large plug in modules with several valves that all together made up a single JK flipflop. There were also germanium transistor logic boards that may have had up to 4 RTL flip flop's per board.Richard.

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2012, 05:05:27 am
content: 1KHz ...30 ... KW

author: Zad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2012, 04:34:45 pm
content: Look at it this way, had Babbage built his Analytical Engine then it would have taken several minutes to multiply 2 numbers. I'm sure it would have been rapidly improved, but I don't think it would have been playing Quake III.