Martin lorton needs a hand - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 03:13:09 am
content: just saw his video, and tought I post it here, maybe some of you want to give him some help, ok?https://youtu.be/NTaqD4CjvcE

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 03:24:15 am
content: For those who don't want to spend 20 minutes watching it, the quick summary is that Martin is struggling to make financial ends meet because advertising revenue is way down compared to 2 or 3 years ago and sponsers are not renewing or signing up. Thus, he will have to cut back doing videos and get a job sooner than later (i.e. 3 or 4 months). If he gets a job, then doing youtube videos will only be done part time.You can support him in the usual ways like you support Dave.He will also be selling off a lot of his test equipment in the next couple of months to help pay the bills.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 05:40:05 am
content: I'm surprised he was doing this full time, wow. I tried to start up a channel but got fuck all attention, pretty disheartening when I put a lot of effort into a couple videos and got nothing back from it.Good on him for actually making a living off of it for this long.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:16:35 am
content: Quote from: XOIIO on June 30, 2016, 05:40:05 amPeople don't watch videos because they are good. They mostly watch because they've found them. Even if they've found something that's not great, they'll probably watch quite a bit if the topic interests them. Once viewers start coming you may be able to rely on the quality of the material and the word spreading, but that won't get things moving. Maybe you put too much effort into making videos, and too little into making people aware of you and your work.

author: Wirehead
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:25:32 am
content: Actually, this doesn't surprise me. I'm subscribed to his channel, however, the last couple of months, I couldn't be bothered watching them. The reason for this is: he had been doing a series of thermal camera stuff (which, no offence, is a niche market for the hobbyist) and constant solar stuff. If he would vary between subjects, and not cut down, but post more videos, he would have a MUCH larger target audience, hence - more revenue.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:37:19 am
content: Quote from: retiredcaps on June 30, 2016, 03:24:15 amSo if you run out of interesting new things to say, you also run out of viewers? Whoda thought?Most successful youtube channels don't last that long before withering and dying. Eventually you run out of new things to put in a hydraulic press, or topics with 10 interesting things about them. Someone like Shahriar could make popular videos forever. That's because:His video get 10k to 20k views. Pretty good numbers, but nothing staggeringly high. Its essentially a hard core viewer baseHe doesn't produce a huge number of videos, so he doesn't burn through interesting topics very quicklyHis expertise is fairly broad, so he can always find new topics to coverThe result is a very sustainable channel, but not one that would let him abandon his day job.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:46:54 am
content: Quote from: Wirehead on June 30, 2016, 06:25:32 amTrue, I watched pretty steadily, after a lot of binge watching his stuff too, but he started getting more into solar stuff which just isn't really in my grasp financially or in this area, and it wasn't as interesting as his other content.

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:04:45 am
content: He has done some less-interesting-stuff lately, but that's no good excuse not pledging a mere $2!

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:12:15 am
content: Quote from: Wirehead on June 30, 2016, 06:25:32 amI agree

author: continuo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:37:59 am
content: I always thought doing yt as a full time "job" (and not as a hobby) is a very bad idea in every niche. Especially in electronics because you have to invest a lot into time and equipment but the interested audience is quite small. If you want to make money on yt try to get into the toy unboxing stuff

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 08:28:04 am
content: Problem I find with Martin's videos is that they are tedious to watch. Not sure if its his tone of voice or the long pre amble waffle he always dose. I have on the whole stopped watching him, just watched the video linked above and found myself blanking off after a couple of minuets and ended up skipping to the end to have look at the vintage instruments, even that was dull compared to Dave. Darwin at work in all his glory.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 08:34:32 am
content: The impression I got was the wife had the high paying job and that that was why they moved to the states. This allowed him to stay at home (house husband) and concentrate on growing his Youtube channel, as money was not the issue.

author: encryptededdy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 08:40:29 am
content: Quote from: G7PSK on June 30, 2016, 08:28:04 amI feel the same way. I'm fairly interested in thermal imaging cameras so I started watching some of his thermal imaging comparison videos but I just found them much more boring and tedious to watch compared to, say, eevblog or mikeselectricstuff. The fact that I was watching on a mobile device with no option to watch at 1.25 or 1.5x speed didn't help either.I think his videos are just too long - now, that's not to say I have a problem with long videos, but in Martin's case the information is very... un-dense.eg. The last mjlorton video I watched was the Thermal Camera buyers guide - this was extremely tedious to watch because he took like 4-5 minutes explaining field of view.

author: ElectricGuy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 08:41:21 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on June 30, 2016, 07:12:15 amMe too!In fact, unfortunately, I already predicted that this type of situation would happen, exactly because of the content published.

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 09:10:43 am
content: Quote from: XOIIO on June 30, 2016, 05:40:05 amDo you have a link? Why not put it in your sig? I'm always looking for tec youtube content.Agree with others, I like Martins channel but sometimes he needs to get a bit more on point or make a shortened summary video. Otherwise he forever limits his audience to those willing to sit through 1 hour of dry technical data... which sometimes I am if the subject resonates with what I'm interested in but not always.

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 09:20:12 am
content: Another channel that I just started watching is fellow Canadian Linus (Linus Tech Tips). His most recent video discloses how his media group makes money (10 minute video).It starts around 3:35. He discusses the breakdown of his revenue.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 09:30:42 am
content: I remember a time not that long ago where I would look forward with great anticipation and enthusiasm to newly released videos from a number of creators including Martin, I would eagerly watch the entire episodes without even considering skipping bits and actually make it my special indulgence time, nowadays something has changed my end, perhaps the novelty has worn off.I once found a fellow that made only six or so videos in the most basic manner on the most rudimentary of electronic devices yet I watched them many times over, he looked to be struggling in more ways than one and when no more videos followed I was deeply saddened yet I never left a comment, subscribed or thanked him, for this I regret.

author: Strada916
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 09:33:55 am
content: he has good points and I do like his videos of past. Lately they have been a bit nichey and not really into them. Did he ever finish the college Power supply. To get more people interested he needs to go back to what he was doing before. IE build videos and installation videos, equipment reviews and maybe some more tear downs. Like the charger.

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 09:45:51 am
content: Quote from: RobertoLG on June 30, 2016, 09:15:10 amMartin has 166,000+ subscribers. Like Dave, he isn't going to make everyone happy and he has mentioned the feedback about his videos being too long a number of times in his T4Ds and how that is not his style to make short quick 10 minute videos.Some enjoy his long videos. Others don't. Who knows what will happen? Maybe a new sponsor will come in?

author: imidis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 10:15:08 am
content: I wasn't sure who it was until I saw him, I was looking at one of his keysight meter reviews a while ago, but didn't really grab my attention. Really I have a good attention span but tend to wander off when too long of time as spent on one bit of a part of an item.Actually, I was thinking the last EEVBlog mailbag how I wasn't really interested enough in those printed solar sheets, while interesting it took up quite a bit of mailbag time.I tried mikeselectricstuff, but I don't know, I can't seem to follow him, I think hes too fast to me, or maybe been watching too much bigclive. I think they all have their good and bad spots and some catch on to me better personally. It's preference between personalities. It's all tough though, I'm sure my interests differ from others.

author: Wilksey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 10:16:03 am
content: I have a lot of respect for content providers like Martin, I am subscribed to his channel, and I am in the same group as others, I see a new video pop up about solar or something else which he has done a ton of videos on before and to be quite frank, are not interesting to me, and I just can't be bothered to watch them.It's almost like watching someone for an hour trying to explain a 2 minute topic, there is only so much waffle you can take, and unfortunately his later videos are like that.It might be that that's what some people are asking for, but I think the general feeling is that he should go back to his old way and make some videos about random stuff (like Dave and his teardowns), and perhaps just do 1 or 2 videos about a particular topic, and not quite so waffly.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 10:58:34 am
content: Quote from: encryptededdy on June 30, 2016, 08:40:29 amYes. I also subscribed because topics are interesting, but well, I havent watched anything from him in months. Like he was talking for 20 minutes about a youtube comment war. Nobody cares. So you can do this only a few times, and I lost interest completely.Sorry, change the format.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 11:12:00 am
content: Quote from: XOIIO on June 30, 2016, 05:40:05 amUnlike most (including myself) he deliberately set up his channel with the intention of making it a full time living.IIRC he talked about that when he was on the Amp Hour:https://www.theamphour.com/206-an-interview-with-martin-lorton-variegated-video-vagility/QuoteUnfortunately that's how it works. Even the fastest growing channels struggle when they start. Your channel will have practically zero Youtube/Google Foo.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 11:23:44 am
content: Quote from: Wirehead on June 30, 2016, 06:25:32 amIn Martin's defence, like me, he has a young family, a life, and a wife with a career. Posting "more videos" is an option that is often not possible.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 11:36:58 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on June 30, 2016, 09:45:03 amMy channel, from day 1 hasalwayshad a wide variety of content. This makes it much harder, actually, literally impossible to maintain an audience indefinitely. There always has been and always will be turnover on a channel like mine.Other channels that always give you the same thing in the same format each and every video have a much greater chance at success and maintaining an audience.QuoteIt most certainly can. Not literally the "same old stuff" of course, but the same style, format, topic, edit, length etcTake AfrotechMods for example, or more recently Great Scott or even ElecroBoom. You get the exact same style, pace, and production value on every video. As a general rule, most people like consistency like that.Alan W2AEW is another similar consistent channel with his tutorials, but I suspect a lot of viewers that signed up for the tutorials might be turned off by his amateur radio stuff. But he clearly loves the amateur radio stuff, that's why he does it, but it would not be a good choice if you were looking to build a more successful channel. You could think of Martin's solar power stuff the same way i guess.On the other hand, there is also an audience for the "mixed bag" more personality based channels like mine. I've been massively surprised as the success of mailbag for example, people just like random stuff. Mike's Electric Stuff is another example of successful randomism.

author: continuo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 11:38:00 am
content: OTOH, look at Big Clives channel. Most of the crap he usually reviews is pretty trivial, only one camera angle from above, next to no editing, no fancy test gear porn, but his channel is growing quick and he has 31mio views because he's a nice and entertaining guy who makes the most out of practically nothing. Utmost respect for the guy

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 12:03:42 pm
content: I watched several of his early reviews. He had one where he showed a personal protection device and talked about using it to test meters. Later I asked him about what happened with these tests and he never responded. Watching these and other meter reviews where they would talk about the input protection and give their opinion on if it was good or not was partly why I started stressing the meters to failure.Like most, I felt the content he produced later was not information rich and drawn out. When I watched his video about how to make money on YT, I stopped watching him.A co-worked had stumbled onto Dave's channel and a few of us started watching as a group. Some of the early videos Dave would have us all rolling. He was very entertaining. His videos seemed to move along at a fast pace. Most of us who started watching together now watch maybe one in ten. As he started to discuss religion I unsubscribed.I will be the first to say my earlier videos are painful to watch.I never went into it with the idea of making money at it. That would require me to have blond hair, boobs and put on makeup while drunk. I did not consider it entertainment but more an experiment that I was interested in running and decided to make it public. I changed the format to include a bit of a review as people asked and I was sort of interested myself in seeing how certain meters compared. I never asked for donations of any sort and have no plans to. The videos are bad enough I don't see a point in making the few that watch suffer through the ads as well to make a few dollars. I would be the last person to give advice on how to make a living on YT as my business model for it runs at 100% loss.

author: joseph nicholas
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 12:41:15 pm
content: While watching Martin´s videos I felt like a student in my high school chemistry class. Here is an educated, friendly instructor who needed keep his job and get a secure future. He liked his students and all the students in the class liked and respected him. Then after awhile it seemed he was being told by the principal that some of the parents were complaining he didn´t provide enough warnings about safety. He became obsessed with this and constantly warned them to be careful. It was just too much. The fun factor got lost.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 12:46:23 pm
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on June 30, 2016, 12:03:42 pmWhy?

author: Radio Tech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 01:00:28 pm
content: As being a fairly new YouTube channel myself I appreciate topics like this. Sort of gives me things to look for in the future. Will I go full time in YouTube? Yes, but this is due to me retiring in about 5 years so got to have something to do.I have been watching Martins videos for a while. But only selected ones. So I see a variety is important to the audience. I have started to venture out a bit more than just radio repair. The video I recently done on the 20 dollar LC esr tester was a big hit on my little channel. This tells me what I need to do.I watch all of Dave's video's. That blokes a nut and I find him very entertaining to watch plus he has always been my role model.I do hope things work out ok for Martin.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 01:39:39 pm
content: IMHO the problem with a Youtube channel is that it can be over quickly. New content creators start daily and there is not really a means to direct traffic to you from just Youtube. I think Dave did very well to make his offering a package consisting of a popular forum he can control and videos he creates. Besides that the camera loves Dave and his knife.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 01:53:47 pm
content: Maybe he should get a Hoodraulic press. Or a cat.I'm not that convinced that subscriber count is a good metric - the view count on most of my vids typically gets about a third of the sub count after a couple of weeks.

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 01:59:13 pm
content: mjlorton's 20 last videos average about 6-7k views. He has 166k subs, that's a 3.6-4.2% "turnout". This is the turnout you could expect on channels who buy subs / use sub bots. Definitely not accusing him of this, it's just curious. Anyone know why this might happen?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 02:00:46 pm
content: I've only watched a few of his vids. Something that immediately puts me off is the title music and static ad- screens of small text. I also often find it a bit slow- going & waffly.I think a problem is he's trying to please too many people and not offend anyone, ending up a bit bland.Watch the first 5 secs of any of his vids. Then do the same for Hydraulic Press Channel or Colin Furze. Extreme examples maybe, but I know which end of the scale attracts my attention more effectively.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 02:02:54 pm
content: Quote from: TheAmmoniacal on June 30, 2016, 01:59:13 pmSimple - people sub then lose interest. If subbers don't have email notifications on they probably forgot all about the channel.

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 02:12:34 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 30, 2016, 12:46:23 pmWhen you talk about religion or politics, people are much more polarised. Just look at Thunderf00t's last 10 videos and their dislike:like ratio.If people want to listen to religion they will seek out and watch Dawkins or the opposite.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 02:16:13 pm
content: If I remember correctly, Martin said in the video that his viewership was going up, but YT revenues down.I didn't quite get whether less revenues are because of 'less clicks' or because YT is paying less. Dave, anyone?

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 02:25:13 pm
content: Almost certainly because of Adblock being much more prevalent. YouTube hasn't solved that yet except bring out YouTube Red, which isn't allowed/available in all countries.

author: ElectricGuy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 02:28:21 pm
content: Some stats from his channel:https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/mjlorton/monthly

author: Aeternam
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 05:26:20 pm
content: Quote from: ElectricGuy on June 30, 2016, 02:28:21 pmThat is a very cool page, cheers for sharing this!

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 05:27:13 pm
content: Not an easy question to answer. I think if I were to sum it up, most of us were bored. I think when we started watching, we were drawn to your personality. Your choice of words and phases were different than the norm, along with you were a bit quirky. I think we related to you and found humor in what you were offering. I suspect Scott Adams nailed it so well because so much of what he provided, many of us could see in our own lives. I don't think any of our small group watched for the technical content so much as just watching you entertain us.Around Christmas as you started to talk more an more about religion, I really lost interest. I have no care of what your views are but found it a little sad to see you begin to attack a group a people based on religion. I remember saying, it's his show not ours.Quote from: EEVblog on June 30, 2016, 12:46:23 pm

author: imidis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 05:47:13 pm
content: Quote from: continuo on June 30, 2016, 11:38:00 amI really find him quite entertaining and sometimes pretty funny as well. It does go to show, you don't have to have lots of fancy stuff to pull it off, though I do much prefer his HD videos with the better mic than his earlier ones. It's a part time gig for him though.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:02:11 pm
content: Quote from: G7PSK on June 30, 2016, 08:28:04 amHate to say so but I think the same - tone of voice and I stopped watching his videos. Sorry to say but I think he needs to find another job, he cannot make a living off of YT.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:14:47 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on June 30, 2016, 02:02:54 pmDamn that is why I forget all my subscribed channelsNo email notifications.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:26:24 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on June 30, 2016, 06:02:11 pmSame here, at first I liked his videos based on content, but now I can't stand to watch any longer than a few minutes so I stopped watching completely. I thought it was just me, glad to find out I'm not the only one.Besides that there's so much more to watch that the days are not long enough anyway.

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:33:25 pm
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on June 30, 2016, 12:03:42 pmI wonder if the YouTube 10 minute limit actually helped with initial growth. It's seemingly impossible to shoot a 10 minute video these days, which inevitably means most people are going to skip through videos reducing the income from YouTube.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:35:16 pm
content: Its my personal preference, even English is not my native, I find Martin's video pace and the way he speaks, presents and explains things are way too slow, even for my non native English ears. Maybe its just me.Dave's style and speed is perfect, while for Mike's, I do have Briton's friend, he speaks quite fast exactly like Mike does, that sometimes made me have to rewind abit to clear things out, but I did it willingly and I feel its just my non native ears limitation, and mostly I can understand about 85-90% on what Mike said on the "1st pass".I do subscribe Dave's and Mike's, unsubscribed Martins quite while ago after he didn't make any improvements on his style and format, even though he was aware of it as he mentioned it in one of his video about this kind of feedback he received like mine, if I'm not mistaken.

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 06:41:41 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on June 30, 2016, 06:02:11 pmI have discovered him thanks to a shout-out in one of Dave's videos. I used to watch his channel for a while, but then dropped it. He can really beat around the bush for ages and when he finally gets to the point he often gets into subjects he doesn't really know much about but he is still able to fumble around for 20 minutes ... His videos really could use (a lot of) editing.I also remember some of his instrument teardowns where I wasn't sure whether to laugh on how he was trying to emulate people like Dave trying to point out construction details that he then couldn't say much about or whether to cry over how he hand-waved and fumbled through things he obviously didn't understand. Or the cringe worthy videos on milling plastic using a vertical drill (!) - only a trip to a hospital was missing, considering how badly he bungled it. To his credit he did a follow-up video correcting that one.A pity, because he is rather good in other areas - e.g. that solar stuff or the rather epic series testing the power banks that he did.

author: Augustus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:09:34 pm
content: Quote from: BravoV on June 30, 2016, 06:35:16 pmThat's my problem with Mike too. I like his vids but my English is not the best and I really struggle to understand him. He speaks way to fast for me and without clear pronunciation, it's more of a monotone mumbling if this is the right word for it. Don't have this problems with Dave, his voice cuts through like a circular saw

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:13:02 pm
content: How about a new feature for privatised videos called subtitles so both non english viewers and viewers who arent great at english (or if the presenter can hardly be understood) could be a way to get more viewers?

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:14:16 pm
content: Maybe if Dave or Martin enabled community subtitling the video's can be made more accesible to non-english people.Especially for Germany. They subtitle or dub everything.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:39:52 pm
content: Quote from: Augustus on June 30, 2016, 07:09:34 pmJust got a new camera with an external mic socket, which might help...!

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:41:09 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on June 30, 2016, 07:39:52 pmI'm pretty sure it's a language barrier. You need to learn American.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:43:38 pm
content: Quote from: Jeroen3 on June 30, 2016, 07:14:16 pmWe're learning English in school for several decades now. There's no real need for that! Of course some understand English not so well as others, but it gives you the opportunity to improve your language skills.

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:49:52 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 30, 2016, 07:41:09 pmBe glad he isn't Scottish! English spoken there sounds like a different language to a stranger like me (no, I don't mean Gaelic). I can understand Mike quite well, but he really does speak fast. It took me a while to get used to that. On the other hand, my French colleagues complain about the same thing to me, so I guess I shouldn't whine too much!

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 07:51:45 pm
content: Quote from: janoc on June 30, 2016, 07:49:52 pmWhy? I can understand the Scottish. I have no problem with the vast majority of accents, especially ones from my own country!Just making fun of everyone else.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 08:04:35 pm
content: Quote from: Jeroen3 on June 30, 2016, 07:14:16 pmSomething like this?

author: Kalvin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 08:14:57 pm
content: This is quite challenging:I did catch a few words from here and there, so the ciphering wasn't totally secure.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 08:17:13 pm
content: Quote from: Jeroen3 on June 30, 2016, 07:14:16 pmGerman dubbing is hilarious but also irritating. Do they give Arnold and Sylvester whimpy voices on purpose?@Kalvin: what is the problem with that Scottish accent? Wait until you have worked with Koreans (which was pleasant but using English between two non-native English speakers has it's challenges).

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 08:24:36 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on June 30, 2016, 07:39:52 pmI have the same problem as Augustus (not fast but mumbling) and I hope the new camera and mic will help. Also just found the email notification so now I can watch him more often. Mike has some interesting videos. I liked his black box video. Thanks Mike

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 08:25:30 pm
content: Quote from: bookaboo on June 30, 2016, 09:10:43 amI've got content on another channel but that's mixed in with other stuff, I've meant to download it all and re-upload it to this one which is purely for electronics related projects and my servers. Had the old one in my sig for ages that I forgot about.edit: correct link lolhttps://www.youtube.com/user/JunctionRunnerI've recently got a new phone with a much better camera which will help, but I need to make a rig to hold the thing over my workspace, when I actually get one set up, that will eliminate the crappy over the shoulder shots. I'm in a pretty small area right now and storage space is a premium so my main desk is basically a shelf.

author: et328
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 09:43:22 pm
content: Quote from: Augustus on June 30, 2016, 07:09:34 pmI actually like Dave's voice better when he has a cold, it cuts a little edge off from this toneBig Clive is great to listen and I like this style. Mike has done many interesting teardowns and I usually understand most things he says. But my long time favourite is Mr. Carlson's Lab, great stuff presented with a clear voice.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 11:38:55 pm
content: Quote from: Kalvin on June 30, 2016, 08:14:57 pmOh god that reminds me of this video, some british show I think where they pretend to be a tour guide but they just keep going around the same town center circle, talking about the windows and restaurants. Fuck that was hilarious. Can't find it though.I think they also did a prank where they called a delivery courier in, told him to go through a door and it was a bunch of other couriers tied up in there.

author: TorqueRanger
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2016, 11:43:54 pm
content: I use to like his video's a while ago but they have gone a weird direction away from electronics design and building.. IMO Martin need a reality check cause he is now going to sell all of the thousand of dollars equipment that people donated to him for the channel .. Way to say well Thank you very much for his sponsors, people,and subscribers by profiting off them and then to have the audacity to say I quit and screw you..I also hope he realizes that any donation that he sells for profit then is required to pay the tax for the sale ..So poor him IMO is a waste because alot of people like Frankie from 99cent hobbies lost money from his shenanigans..So you want everyone to help him make more money for doing nothing.. He already got paid threw Youtube and Patroen for the Vids he already did and if the pay rate sucks then get a better job like everyone else and stop whinning on vids for money..

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 12:36:26 am
content: Quote from: TorqueRanger on June 30, 2016, 11:43:54 pmYou realize Dave sells a lot of the stuff people send him, after doing a tear down of it, right? He already has a space issue as it is, plus the money helps him to keep doing what he's doing.

author: TorqueRanger
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 12:46:41 am
content: Quote from: timb on July 01, 2016, 12:36:26 amI know but Dave has also spent alot of money on tools where Martin was handed everything and now selling to profit from it ..

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 12:48:25 am
content: Quote from: TorqueRanger on July 01, 2016, 12:46:41 amThey sent it to him, he made videos of them, he's free to sell them. If you think someone can make ends meet on nothing but YouTube ads and Patreon, well, that's not how the real world works. Sorry. :-/

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 01:37:03 am
content: Quote from: Kalvin on June 30, 2016, 08:14:57 pmI do not mean to be disrespectful but can these people understand each other? Or in this case does he have a speech impediment?

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 02:02:17 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on July 01, 2016, 01:37:03 amHe has no speech impediment (other than being Scottish), his accent isn't even that bad. He's quite easily understandable. Y'all just talk slow over there.

author: iampoor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 02:16:27 am
content: I never found his videos very interesting either.An excellent example of someone who makes lonnnnnnnggggggg videos entertaining is Mr. Carlson's Lab!Also, only making 1 video a week doesnt seem like enough...especially on niche stuff!

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 04:13:03 am
content: Regarding people's rate of speech, I see that several comments mention watching at higher playback speeds, as do I. Depending on the accent, material being covered, and presentation style, it's possible to save a lot of time this way.It's odd that YouTube provides 1.25x, 1.5x, and 2x playback speed settings, but only one rate, 0.5x, that's slower than normal. Isn't that a bit too slow? If you're listening to someone who speaks very quickly (as some others have lamented earlier), a speed of 0.9x or 0.75x would probably be more helpful. No?To those who've commented about people speaking too quickly, do you change the playback to 0.5x or is that too slow?

author: iampoor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 04:20:35 am
content: Quote from: bitseeker on July 01, 2016, 04:13:03 amOnly youtuber I could imagine watching at 0.5x speed would be Collinfurze

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:19:22 am
content: One day I was bored, and downloaded/ripped one of his videos to my harddrive, and started editing out all the "fluff" to make it more information dense, in the hopes to show it to him how much better his videos could be, but I lost steam, and ditched it. But the 30 min video, I'm sure I could have gotten down to 5 mins.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 07:24:52 am
content: Try Louis Rossmann's videos, he made many that can be reduced down to 5 min.

author: RogerRowland
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 07:28:25 am
content: Like a lot of people have reported, I used to watch Martin's channel but then unsubscribed when it became clear that he was not appearing to add value to a lot of the headline content and was really just "learning on the job" - much too long, much to much waffle for my taste but a real shame to see anyone put a lot of effort into something only to have it fail. I respect anyone who exposes themselves in this way and tries hard to make a go of it, there's too many piss-takers out there in YouTube land and at least this is (was) serious.On the other hand, I really like Dave's EEVBlogs and Mike's electricstuff channels because they often turn an otherwise mundane headline into a really interesting watch. Unscripted content works for me because that random rambling during a teardown is where a lot of the knowledge and experience pops out and you can learn so much from it.I make a point of watching everything that Mike puts out because I've found many videos that have fascinating insights which have nothing at all to do with the title. For example, this one called "Pressure sensitive PICs" has so much more to it - the application is a very cool idea for a start but his explanation of how he handles addressing and firmware updating and a whole host of other stuff really swamps the oddity of the effect in the title.https://youtu.be/UCXCLR3xq8UIf I had to criticise Mike at all, it's annoying how much he obviously waves his hands around when he's talking. Not normally a problem, but he's often holding the camera! Dave's camera work is much more polished but he does have a tendency to repeat himself a lot and seems to have a problem simply saying goodbye at the end of the content.Hats off to everyone - we didn't have this kind of resource in the past (certainly not in my past!) and it makes the world a much more interesting place.

author: nowlan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 07:32:37 am
content: I watch pretty much everything at 1.25 or 1.5. I find a lot of people speak far too slow, and i can cut a 15min video down to 10min this way.I have pretty much given up on tv, and just watch youtube for an hour.I do have trouble with shariah, so cannot fast forward him. Just the accent is slightly off, or garbled in fast forward.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 07:41:02 am
content: Quote from: Augustus on June 30, 2016, 07:09:34 pmYou nailed it... And no offence, i'm just trying to be helpful - I think Mike may need to work on it to become more articulate as well as improve his voice dynamic range. His lips are barely moving when he speaks, that causes that mumbling effect i think. I cant see how a good microphone can be better than exersizing.

author: borjam
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 07:48:36 am
content: I've sent $25. His videos have proven useful to me several times, so it's a no brainer.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 07:53:09 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 30, 2016, 11:23:44 amI am sorry but this is a lame excuse. This is the creator's problem, not his subscribers'. If the creator is not able to keep up with work (this applies to any type of work) he should not be doing it as this would be disrespectful to the family.

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:05:25 am
content: Martin hasn't received a single new patron in the last 24 hours, that's just sad .. yep, he needs a job.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:08:26 am
content: Quote from: Radio Tech on June 30, 2016, 01:00:28 pmThere is not single Youtuber I follow whom I watch every one of their videos. I always pick and chose based on the title and description.I don't think that's the least bit unusual, and I don't expect anyone to watch every one of my videos, they are just way too varied for every one to appeal to everyone.This is why and a content producer I geteverytime I see someone complaining that they don't like a particular videos contents.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:09:28 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on June 30, 2016, 07:39:52 pmWaddya get?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:11:32 am
content: Quote from: Augustus on June 30, 2016, 07:09:34 pmI've been told by many German viewers that for some reason they can understand fast paced Australian just fine (hence my very large German viewership), but fast paced Queens English they have real problems understandingAny linguistic experts in the house?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:14:44 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on June 30, 2016, 01:53:47 pmIt's not, and 1/3rd of subscriber count in views per video is fairly typical. It gets high if you have more consistent content as I mentioned before. The broader appeal your content, the lower views/subscriber.But I do find that when I upload a video that actually has very broad appeal (e.g. Fontus Busting video), the lurker subscribers come out of the woodwork and watch.

author: borjam
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:17:13 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:11:32 amNo problem with you for a Spaniard

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:17:29 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on June 30, 2016, 02:02:54 pmYep to both of those.I had a video conference with the head of Youtube asia pacific a few months back and he confirmed one of the biggest problems is people don't know how to set up email notification. Hence my video at the time explaining how.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:20:02 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:09:28 amNothing fancy - Panasonic HC-VX870. Didn't spend too much time looking, mainly a case of replacing the current one that has a dead pixel and getting a mic socket. There's a surprising lack of any sort of easy feature comparison resource on the net - even for basic stuff like presence of a mic socket, close-up distance. Not even the manufacturers sites have any sort of useful parametric search/comparison.The only real criteria were mic socket and useable manual focus.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:20:44 am
content: Quote from: RGB255_0_0 on June 30, 2016, 02:12:34 pmI have not done a single video on religion. I only mention it when it's mentioned in a mailbag (which is theentire pointof mailbag!), or a live show comment or whatever. Why people get so uptight about that I don't know. Actually, I do, because, religion is special

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:21:56 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:17:29 amI wonder why YT don't either make this the default, or show a pop-up to set the option when you subscribe.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:22:47 am
content: Quote from: bitwelder on June 30, 2016, 02:16:13 pmIt's not going down for me. There was a big peak late last year, and it's now settled down to a similar value I was getting a year ago. Nothing unusual there.

author: borjam
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:24:52 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 01, 2016, 08:20:02 amAudio is difficult. Much more than most people realize.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:26:55 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:11:32 amZi Germans, and Europeans in general like to over-pronounce the words. Meaning that we might pronounce silent syllables and such. Englishmen when speaking actually makes even more silent syllables than Yankees, Australians dont. At least you dont.Also there is varying degree of English knowledge in Europe. Germans learn English second language, so some 70% speaks it. Same for most west European countries. In east Europe, its more like 30. And -10% in France.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:29:06 am
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on June 30, 2016, 05:27:13 pmSo what's actually changed (or hasn't changed) that has made it more "boring"?QuoteThat is not uncommon for my audience. I suspect it's the majority actually, that they watch for the entertainment value essentially.QuoteSee my comment above, I have not done a single video on religion.Mailbag is called Mailbag for a reason. Name another video I have mentioned religion (apart from a 2nd channel video on Peter Poppoff)But hey, if you want to lose interest over that then I understand, perfectly normal. A couple of orders of magnitude more people lose interest over other things I say and do. My comments on religion would be down in the noise for reasons people unsub or don't watch any more.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:37:02 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on June 30, 2016, 06:35:16 pmThanks.I do like to think I've gotten a lot better over the years. My videos are still long, but I like the think that there is a lot of information crammed into them.My tutorial videos for example often get compared to 5 minutes ones, and people somehow think they are equivalent and don't seem to appreciate that mine cover 10 times the stuff

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:38:39 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog lI have not done a single video on religion. I only mention it when it's mentioned in a mailbag (which is the [iBecause you insist in going through every thing in the letters in detail and then ranting on them. For example you could have covered the typed letter in seconds and given a link for those who are interested in reading every word in detail.Better still would be to cut them out, as you are now attracting an escalating response from the nutter brigrade.

author: borjam
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:39:11 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:37:02 amThese times will be remembered in History as the TEDiocy years. I am pretty sure some people think that you can master Quantum Physics in a 10 minute TED talk.So everyone gets shallower and shallower. I'm amazed at the increasing lack of grasp of fundamental concepts in newly graduated engineers.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:39:53 am
content: Quote from: borjam on July 01, 2016, 08:24:52 amThe big issue with audio is the room acoustics. You need to be prepared to control echo. A tiled bathroom doesn't sound that echoey in real life, but sounds like an echo chamber in a recording. Even quite absorbently furnished rooms tend to be a lot more echoey than you would like in a speech recording. You either need to closely mic, to exclude anything but the direct voice, or be prepared to use acoustically absorbent materials to control the room acoustics. If you very thoroughly exclude everything but direct voice into the microphone the recording might end up sounding a little dry. This is not a bad thing, though. Adding a controlled amount of reverb electronically is easy to do.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:40:12 am
content: Quote from: Augustus on June 30, 2016, 07:09:34 pmMy voice is either hated, or it'suseful

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:41:04 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on June 30, 2016, 06:14:47 pm

author: borjam
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:41:56 am
content: Quote from: coppice on July 01, 2016, 08:39:53 amActually, worse than the typical reverberation is low frequency resonances, which are complicated and expensive to tame (you need bass traps).Also, you need proper voice processing and dynamics processors have a learning curve.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:43:15 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 01, 2016, 08:21:56 amWouldn't making it the default be a little spammy?

author: VK5RC
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:44:20 am
content: I have seen quite a few of Lorton's videos and for me they didn't 'click' , but as I haven't paid anything I don't think I can complain, they are a lot better than I could ever produce.Even if I had paid, I think you vote with your feet. Bit sad it didn't fly for him but hopefully he had a bit of fun in the process.Dave's technical (F Friday!) have me pausing from time to time, Mike's and Shariar's as well.Thanks to the all producers of content, I have found YT a great resource not just for electronics.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:46:56 am
content: Quote from: System Error Message on June 30, 2016, 07:13:02 pmSadly, no, subtitles won't bring in a substantial new viewer base.And it's actually very expensive and tedious to get subtitles for long technical videos. It would cost more to get the subtitles done than you'd get in ad revenue.

author: meeder
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:47:36 am
content: While I did enjoy a lot of his videos I sometimes got the impression that he didn't finish what he started. He was doing a very interesting comparison on a bunch of calculators but he abandoned that project.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:51:03 am
content: Quote from: timb on July 01, 2016, 12:36:26 amErr, no I don't. The stuff just accumulates, gets tossed out, or given away.I think the only exception to that was when I sold some stuff for charity.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:53:12 am
content: Quote from: timb on July 01, 2016, 12:48:25 amFor those curious, it's not a secret how much Youtubers make from ads, it's about $1-$2 average per 1000 views. If a video gets 100,000 views, you get about $100 or so.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:54:30 am
content: And you should delete this before google sees it and cuts you off from adsense for violation the terms.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:59:57 am
content: Quote from: Bud on July 01, 2016, 07:53:09 amIt is not an "excuse", it's just an explanation of a practical reality.QuoteWho are you to tell someone they should not do something they enjoy?, not to mention how they should do it and how often?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 09:01:27 am
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on July 01, 2016, 08:54:30 amActually, I do believe you are now allowed to:a) State exact overall earning figuresb) Give rough indications of CPM'sMay of the big Youtubers have done videos stating typical CPMs

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 09:04:40 am
content: Quote from: Towger on July 01, 2016, 08:38:39 amWhat's the point in doing a mailbag if I don't talk about the contents?In this case the letter was the only contents.QuoteIt's down in the noise.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 09:24:13 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:20:44 amCome on Dave - religion and opinions aside, you LOVE it when you get those letters. You go above and beyond to make your personal opinion know. Let's just call a spade a spade. And that's fine. You rock on with your bad self. It's your channel, and you can do what you want.But if I send you a porno, are you going to watch it and review it on air as well?As far as Martin - he seems like a nice guy, but back when he was starting, I soon noticed little things that if Dave had a pointer he used in his videos, Martin would soon have the same pointer. Dave used a white board, so would martin. Dave would tear down a multi-meter, and so would Martin. It became almost awkward.The most face palm moments was him after his basement was flooded. He'd cut back dry wall, and pant a tiny portion of it with paint - "water proofing paint" on the INSIDE of the wall, and vents to "let the wall breathe" - Urrrrrrrrrrr - When it's clear he needs a french drain. It's really painful to watch as a home owner.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 09:47:20 am
content: Quote from: george graves on July 01, 2016, 09:24:13 amActually, no. The clip of me opening the letter had me rolling my eyes and saying something like "I won't read it out, I'll just post a picture of it and you can read it yourself."But when I shot the detail videos on the bench I decided to somewhat reluctantly read it and comment, being only fair because he went to some trouble to type it. So I edited that remark out of my talking head shot.I can prove it if you like.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 09:51:09 am
content: Ha! I'm sure you did! And the typed letter did give me some chills. More electrons, less of that.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 10:10:11 am
content: Quote from: borjam on July 01, 2016, 08:41:56 amIMHO you need to filter anything below 200Hz when dealing with speech. Most of the speech energy is in the 200Hz to 500Hz region. At the high end you can cut off at 10kHz or even less.

author: borjam
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 10:22:04 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on July 01, 2016, 10:10:11 amGeneralised recipes are very hard, because it depends a lot on the individual's voice, how he/she speaks or sings, the microphone itself and the room acoustics.That said, cutting below 150 - 200 Hz is most useful in order to avoid the proximity effect when close miking with a directional microphone (the most widely used mikes are cardioid, hence directional) unless you use a specially designed one like this (in or dear friends's terms) puppies: An ElectroVoice RE-20, but it's completely unsuited for video, although just briliant for podcastsBut you don't do close miking on video, except when using lavaliers. And these are omnidirectional. Of course you need some low frequency filtering to reduce pops, but that's another issueA slight increase around 5 KHz, known as the "presence peak" will make the voice sound a bit punchier (actually many microphones designed for voice already have a slight 5 KHz increase by design). A dip around 400 - 500 Hz will make the voice sound a bit less nasal, which increasesintelligibility.The more complicated part is dynamics. Using a noise gate and a compressor properly (and when using a compressor I can't recommend the "parallel compression" technique highly enough) is the real difference between a horrible and a great sound. That done, a tiny bit of carefully applied reverberation(*), mostly early reflections, will help the voice to sound "more present".Part of the difficulty is, you need someone else to adjust this for you unless you do it in post production. And you still need a decent enough set of monitors, doing it properly on headphones is harder.(*) I've had famous arguments with a friend who is an outstanding sax player. He loves reverb, I don´t. Well, I do but in the right dose and character. Whenever I've recorded him he always missed more reverb. To the point that sometimes I call him "Reverbniczak" (He's Polish, just replacing a couple of syllabes)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 10:24:47 am
content: Quote from: coppice on July 01, 2016, 08:43:15 amYes, but the option right there would be nice, rather than just the Subscribe button that doesn't display anything.But changing anything on youtube is like turning an oil tanker. And if they do make changes, it's usually shipwreck!

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 10:36:27 am
content: Quote from: borjam on July 01, 2016, 10:22:04 amThat depends on the kind of videos you make. If you make Big Clive style videos, where you only see his hands and not his face, close micing is a very realistic option. Especially if you use a headset mic, so it stays a nice constant distance from your mouth as you work.

author: borjam
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 10:39:42 am
content: Quote from: coppice on July 01, 2016, 10:36:27 amTrue, wasn't thinking on that, sorryI had Dave's videos in mind.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 11:00:41 am
content: i'm from the school of high information per minute rate, MJLorton is not one of it. If the pace is too quick i can move backward a bit and get a feel of high paced english in the process, but if the pace is too slow, i tend to move forward but hesitated due to the risk of missing an information, but without doing so risk of time wastage as well, so slow paced video is a bit hard on the decision hence i tend to stay away where i can. local storage is another thing, i only save locally those who are only worthy my HDD space. but MJLorton's video are among those who add the spice to the world of global net informations, for example he is the only rare person who made the worthiest review of the Uni-T UT81B DMM / portable scope hybrid, i believe it will continually popped out in google and viewed by interested parties from time to time. i'm not sure if adsense can still accumulate and give the $1-$2 incentive per 1000 views in the span of a long time say 10 years? i hope so, for the good sake of information providers. if only i'm a fluent english speaker...

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 11:12:30 am
content: Quote from: iampoor on July 01, 2016, 02:16:27 amYes, they are great to watch, even if some last more than 2 hours.English is not my native language (ok you already noticed that) but I really enjoy watching Dave's videos, and Martin's non-solar & non-thermal vids (I have no interest in these).True that as said before, the five first seconds, still pictures and music are boring (IMO)... but the real problem is - IMO - to be financially dependent on YT videos. This forces to make a lot of concessions, whereas a real hobbyist will have less viewers but with no negative impact, they don't integrate asystem. Well. Less.+1 about Clive, we don't need 7 digits (and a half) precision multimeters and sci-fi-ready spectrum analyzers to produce interesting videos.This is my viewing pact : I subscribed to around 20 channels similar to EEvblog. I don't watch everything, I skip a bit, and if a channel doesn't produce stuff that interest me, I'll end unsubscribing, because I don't really care about a particular channel, I'll go to another one. I think Martin Lorton is victim of his own choices. I hope he will manage to resolve the problems, but as a viewer, I'm not involved in financial stuff, Patreon and Paypal and all the videos about his website... well I got used not to watch his latest videos.Also, it's really boring when some channels post endless videos about patreon and paypal... people know they can donate if they want, there's no need to teel them frequently.Sorry for language errors...

author: et328
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 11:20:48 am
content: Quote from: Falkra on July 01, 2016, 11:12:30 amFirst Clive video I saw was "Japanese Fanny Flambeaux doll"...

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 12:01:49 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:11:32 amReally? I'm a STEM guy, not a linguistic expert, but I understand Mike fine. If someone thinks Mike is talking too fast he should meet a former colleague of mine. He's talking two notches faster and like a waterfall. It's hard to follow him for more than a few minutes.

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 12:13:42 pm
content: i've been subbed to Martin's channel for a long timeit was all about solar power to begin with, but now for someone who does it full time he doesn't make that many videos and has drifted off topic somewhat. Like why the reviews of 2-way radios and thermal cameras?i hope it works out for him whatever he does.

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 12:39:35 pm
content: Quote from: dexters_lab on July 01, 2016, 12:13:42 pmI think the radio videos give an indication of why he's going for a part time gig. He was sent a couple of radios, but bought a whole load so he could do a comparison. It seems he'd struggle to make his money back and also turn a profit. I do enjoy Martin's videos though, I tend to listen to them while driving rather than watch them - it suits my commute to work nicely

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 01:06:20 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on July 01, 2016, 10:36:27 amAll my behind the camera work is done with the internal mic on the Canon HF G30, manual level setting, no filters. As long as you are within half a meter of the internal mic, it gives great results.

author: Gary350z
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 01:28:59 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:17:29 amI watch all YouTube videos on a big TV using AppleTV and it's YouTube app.This lists all the new videos of all the YouTube channels I subscribe too at the top of the screen.I just turn on the TV, see all the new YouTube videos, pick one and watch it.I like it.No need to set up email notifications and read your email.

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 01:50:36 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:51:03 amI swear at one time you mentioned auctioning the stuff off on eBay. Maybe it was on The Amp Hour? Now that I think about it, maybe you were talking about stuff you bought at auctions for teardowns?Anyway, if people sent me stuff that I couldn't use and would otherwise just clutter up my lab, I'd have no qualms about selling it. I see nothing wrong with it, really.

author: Gary350z
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 01:53:47 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:37:02 amDave,Your videos are the right length. You get all the information across, not too fast, not too slow.Some producers like "GreatScott" make videos that are way too fast. I actually timed some of his recent videos.He showed a schematic for 1.3 seconds, and his final project for 0.7 seconds!!!!!! Ridiculous.They are so fast they are not informative (or fun) anymore.I was going to leave him a comment, but he posted a recent video saying his video length was correct and every body else's was way too long. So he's not open to improvement.So keep up the good work Dave.

author: continuo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 02:05:32 pm
content: Quote from: Gary350z on July 01, 2016, 01:53:47 pmYes, that's the reason I don't like his vids. They are made exactly like tv ads, one cut every 1-2 seconds. And not very informative at all. Not even particulary entertaining or funny. I've always wondered how on earth he managed to get so many subs

author: vinicius.jlantunes
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 03:03:57 pm
content: Quote from: continuo on July 01, 2016, 02:05:32 pmMost people seem to like videos like that for some reason, it's long youtube videos that seem to be the exception. I watch his videos every now and then when it's an interesting thing, but get a feeling at the end that I didn't get much out of it as it is so rushed.

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 03:31:29 pm
content: You also got to love Arduino.He says the schematics and more pictures are available on his website, but well... this is way too fast, indeed.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 03:37:09 pm
content: Quote from: timb on July 01, 2016, 01:50:36 pmThe latter.QuoteI see nothing wrong with it either.Test gear reviewershaveto accumulate gear so that it can be used in future videos for comparisons, tutorials etc. It can sit there for years unused, and then, bam, you need it for a video.There is never really anything spoken about who owns the gear. Some of mine have "Demo unit" stickers on them etc.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 03:52:35 pm
content: Quote from: Gary350z on July 01, 2016, 01:53:47 pmI agree, but they are very well produced and massively popular. His recent surge in subscribers is very impressive.Obviously they cater to a big market, potentially bigger than general purpose channels like mine and others will likely ever get.QuoteHe'd actually be very foolish to change. He is building a massive audience based on that style. I would suggest he does not change. Plenty of others cover the longer form electronics video market.That's also a problem he and others like AfrotechMods (who does similar style videos) have. They have built an audience on a very specific style and length of video that it doesn't leave them much room to branch out into other content styles without alienating their audience big time. But channels like mine and Martin's and others that have been built on longer and more varied content and style, are free to do practically any style or length of video, or even topic without alienating our audience to nearly the same degree. We also have the option to move into shorter form video if desired as well, but Great Scott and others wouldn't have that same luxury I suspect.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 03:58:20 pm
content: Quote from: continuo on July 01, 2016, 02:05:32 pm1) The videos are well produced2) They follow the Youtube "Playbook" (it's an actual thing) for style and general population attention span length.3) He does lots of hacks and builds and stuff (Ben Heck style) that appeals to a much wider audience4) His accent is cool

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 03:58:28 pm
content: I get the sense that GreatScott uses his videos to showcase the project more than to teach it, providing schematics, instructions and code in links below. It gets the views, but what else?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 04:02:50 pm
content: Quote from: Gary350z on July 01, 2016, 01:53:47 pmBTW, in more recent times I have been more aggressive in my editing, trying to shave off a few minutes from a 30 minute video for example, as I know every minute saved does ultimately help.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 04:04:30 pm
content: Is there any chance you could perhaps do a review on those early Applied Electricity books for say a way back Wednesday episode or two ?.From what I heard it was a pretty decent outlay on your part to obtain them.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 04:15:29 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on July 01, 2016, 04:04:30 pmYep, and I was just talking to Tiernan about this the other day. This would be a classic example of my usual style of zero-prep shooting just randomly flicking throw pages would be a waste of everyones time and make for a boring video. It really needs a thorough prep of trying to find suitable interesting material and just showing those in order to keep the video as short and sharp as possible.

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 04:23:32 pm
content: Maybe make a short list of important concepts in electronics and see how they described them back then? See if you can find an attempt to describe the unit of electric charge? (electron).What other concepts? Long-distance DC transmission? (could be interesting to read about)

author: Synthetase
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 04:44:08 pm
content: I've watched a few of mj's videos and got bored really quickly. So. Much. Waffle. In contrast, I've watched all of Mike's at least twice. Absolutely love your work, man!On the subject of religion: Dave, while I agree that mailbag is for talking about the mail, I just don't see the point in having these arguments on an electronics channel. Having said that, it's not the bad old days of TV, so viewers can simply skip through it if they don't want to hear it.

author: continuo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 04:48:14 pm
content: Quote from: TheAmmoniacal on July 01, 2016, 03:58:28 pmsome money and a free Keysight scopeQuote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 03:58:20 pmAccent? What accent? Check this guy...https://www.youtube.com/user/TRXBench/videos

author: timgiles
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 04:55:50 pm
content: On showing a schematic for 1.3s - I remember an TV program on BBC in the late 80s or early 90s where they showed code at the end. It whizzed past (2 pages a second maybe) and what you were expected to do was record the program and then pause and skip page by page. I see GS's videos as the same. So long as it is on screen so I can come back to it, I dont see what the problem is. If he is talking about the design and only shows it for a second, fair enough. But even then - if I am interested I can pause. I have done it on Daves videos even!I agree with the views that Martins videos are not as easy to watch. But I am sure some of his loyal fans would say the same about other channels we love. If he is no longer making money, he needs to either ask why and listen - or - not do it as his job. Its up to him as an adult to ultimately decide - he does not have to listen to me, you or anyone else (well, maybe google!).

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:00:17 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:11:32 amI understand the same and I am from So Calif. So if there is ever a world language, I vote for Australian English.

author: Nozzer
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:14:04 pm
content: I've found the Lorton videos very helpful especially in explaining how a modern digital oscilloscope functions. I agree they can be a bit long, but that is no a problem if you are engrossed in the topic.Accents & dialects are something I personally enjoy and because I worked in London for 32 years I am used to having to communicate with people from all over the World. Australian accents remind me, oddly enough, of Danish, so I have a particular affinity.

author: IanJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:20:09 pm
content: One thing I noticed about Martin's video's, he obviously does a lot of research before each one. This takes great discipline as it's all too easy just to switch on the camera and waffle a bit.....................so kudos to Martin on that score.Ian.

author: jaxbird
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:25:51 pm
content: I actually thought Martin was already working full time and Youtube was just a hobby thing, he only seems to release a video once or twice a month, surely that is not enough to make a living unless you got some serious sponsors like Ben Heck and does targeted sponsored videos with high production value.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:31:25 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:17:29 amI learned via this topic () Maybe put a short, like 5 sec, standard ending in every video and tell how to do this. Something like "To get email notifications on my new videos, click the wheel below" and point to it. This takes me 3 secs, I think you could do this in 2 secs.I do not think anyone would object, after a few videos they can just stop because they will know what is coming.I hate to admit that I did not know (it is hard to see that little wheel) and over the years I would wish that I knew when new videos were posted. I am just glad I am not the only stupid one. It will be a sad day when I am the only one

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:37:57 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 01, 2016, 08:20:02 amHope you will make a video about how you picked it.Also I hope you are not offended by the criticisms here. It is because we all love you because you enrich our lives.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:40:23 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on July 01, 2016, 08:26:55 am-10% in France

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:47:53 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:37:02 amI like long videos, especially when searching on a subject. YouTube has two time searches, less than 4 minutes and over 20 minutes (very strange in my opinion)When I do a search, I select over 20 minutes to weed out the kids playing around. This was how I found EEVblogA while back there was someone here making 2 min videos on scopes. At the time I did not know about email notification and so I lost them because they never show up in my searches. They were proud making short videos, I was bummed.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:50:33 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on July 01, 2016, 08:39:53 amYears ago I came across software that would help place mics and speakers. Does anyone know of any software that would help setting up mics for YT? thanks

author: continuo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 05:50:59 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on July 01, 2016, 05:47:53 pmDaniel "2 Minute Guru" Bogdanoff:https://www.youtube.com/user/KeysightOscilloscope/videos

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:02:10 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:51:03 amI did not know this. I thought the same as Timb. I suggest that you do have a big sell off on ebay and use the money for yourself or buy something for a video. Ebay has a new service in the US called Ebay Valet using FedEx, don't know if in Australia.Now that Tesla is in the news, get one of them and go across Australia with your eyes closed. Or make videos while going across Australia. I remember the video you did driving, and I actually enjoyed seeing the scenery.Can you just imagine - the first YT'er to make tear down videos in a Tesla while NOT looking at the roadYou could take out the back seat and set up a bench there.You would go down in history (or down somewhere else).

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:06:47 pm
content: Quote from: george graves on July 01, 2016, 09:24:13 amI remember thinking the same thing. But remember he is from South Africa where water flows in the opposite direction.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:14:50 pm
content: Quote from: borjam on July 01, 2016, 10:22:04 amThanks borjam for the helpful information.Does Audacity have any compression setting that would be similar "parallel compression"?Also do the common (around $100) video editors have this? I am a lover of compression.One more question - do you have a website, blog, or Youtube videos?thanks again

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:21:46 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on July 01, 2016, 05:50:33 pmJust experiment around with what works and also do a little reading into what type of microphone is best for you.I've been using a shotgun microphone for most of my videos as I didn't want anything in my way and generally have no issues with it, it is highly directional though.My audio interface is always set a little low so it never clips and then I just run the files through some presets I created in Adobe Audition for compression to bring up the levels.For more consistent levels, consider a lapel mic, although they have their own drawbacks, or just use the built in microphone if it's any good. Unlike Dave, I don't get good results from my G30 microphone - I must be missing a setting somewhere.For less fuss

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:30:17 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 04:02:50 pmRemember YT has two time searches, less than 4 min and greater than 20. I hope you will keep yours over 20. If it works why fix it?

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:30:49 pm
content: For the MOST consistent audio levels, simply wear a "headset" type microphone.They are remarkably inexpensive and 1000% better than using the mic on the camera.The microphone will REMAIN PERFECTLY POSITIONED no matter how you turn your head.Here are a couple of very cost-effective examples:https://www.amazon.com/HUACAM-YYPJ-02-Condenser-Microphone-Connector/dp/B00VYJJ1YMhttps://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PLM31-Condenser-Microphone-Connector/dp/B00EUJF15G

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:32:58 pm
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on July 01, 2016, 06:30:49 pmMost sound pretty terrible though - I can't speak for those two in particular, but IMO you really have to spend a decent amount for a headset microphone to get what I would consider acceptable results.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:36:24 pm
content: Quote from: continuo on July 01, 2016, 05:50:59 pmThanks very much - I subscribed and set email notifications

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:38:24 pm
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on July 01, 2016, 06:30:49 pmThanks - I just added the first one (because it had better reviews) to my cart.Edit - stop now and walk my dogs

author: jaxbird
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 06:39:28 pm
content: I'm pretty sure if your content is interesting enough, no one cares if you recorded it on a potato phone without any external devices.As always in the long run, it's all about the actual content.EDIT: Just to prove my point check out the 1puglife channel and keep in mind they are making a living off youtube.

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 07:48:48 pm
content: Quote from: continuo on July 01, 2016, 04:48:14 pmWell, TRXBench produces very interesting videos, and suggests to speed up playback if you are a native speaker. No need to put links, the 10-15 lastest videos write it in the comments. Anyway, even if you are not interested in Ham radios, the repairs are very interesting to watch IMO (so is the equipment used, everything is well explained).Today - sadly or not (i don't care) - you have to speak english in videos, even if this is not your native language, if you want to get a large audience.GreatScott is german (nice accent, yeah) and explains in another video why he speaks english.Due to this position of english language and the number of people speaking it, it is unavoidable to read and hear odd accents, or language errors.I think the effort is honourable and , it is not always easy, and even if there are language mistakes/errors, it is - highly - understandable. If every english native speaker could speak french, german, spanish or other languages like those youtubers speak english, that would be an interesting effort.OK, not mentionning how Dave pronounces the foreign names, this is part of his video character.

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:02:11 pm
content: Quote from: jaxbird on July 01, 2016, 06:39:28 pmFriggin rights boys! BMP

author: continuo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:04:16 pm
content: Sorry, wasn't meant to be disrespectful, I've just thought it was funny because Dave seems to like accentsAnd to be honest, my spoken English is hardly any better than TRXBench's one, even worse, some Germans struggle to understand me because of my thick Swabian accent

author: jaxbird
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:11:59 pm
content: Quote from: SteveyG on July 01, 2016, 08:02:11 pmGreat to see a true fan here, BMP

author: jaxbird
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:25:04 pm
content: Quote from: continuo on July 01, 2016, 08:04:16 pmReally no-one cares as long as you have something interesting to say or show.

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 08:56:26 pm
content: Quote from: continuo on July 01, 2016, 08:04:16 pmNo problem, so do I.Quote from: continuo on July 01, 2016, 08:04:16 pmI'm french so... I won't blame anybody... french people usually speak english... ahem you know...Quote from: jaxbird on July 01, 2016, 08:25:04 pmExactly.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 09:55:38 pm
content: Quote from: RogerRowland on July 01, 2016, 07:28:25 amAgreed. I too enjoy his injections of real-world experience such as why he placed and oriented a USB connector on his product in the way that he did. Those are golden tidbits "not taught at Harvard Business School", as the saying goes.

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2016, 10:53:24 pm
content: This guy is really good but his accent really hurts!https://www.youtube.com/user/RetroGameModz/videos

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 12:01:33 am
content: Quote from: RGB255_0_0 on July 01, 2016, 10:53:24 pmSounds to me English is his second language. If that is the case then his English is good. Regardless another good find.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 12:09:01 am
content: I'm impressed by those who learn English as a second or later language, especially after grade school. It's a complex language with so much borrowed from elsewhere. Even native speakers have difficulty with grammar, spelling, pronunciation, etc.I quite like all the various accents. They used to be quite irritating when I was young because I hadn't yet developed the recognition capability. Now, I find it fun adapting to be able to decipher a new one.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 12:11:19 am
content: We haven't heard anything from Martin Lorton here. Isn't he a member? We know he watches Dave's videos.

author: orion242
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 02:39:42 am
content: Not surprised with the overwhelming positive feedback here.I sub to his channel. Not likely the normal viewer, but I need background noise when I'm working on something. I hate short content because @(#*$& youtube constantly needs fussing when a vid finishes. Autoplay kicks in and the next thing I know some stupid bull$hit is playing and annoys me enough to change it. If it something good, may stop and watch...may note it and come back later. I don't really watch any TV and just roll with youtube and channels with stuff that interests me. Mainly as background noise and a distraction when I had it with the task at hand.That said, Martins videos have there place. Not at the top of my list, certainly not at the bottom either. I'll give it to him for trying if nothing else.To the guy doing radio repair....I don't know squat about ham, likely never will. Still play them because I find them interesting.....might be background noise, might be paying attention.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 03:19:34 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:29:06 amFor what it's worth, I loose interest fairly easily. I suspect as I have become accustomed to you, the humor factor went down. When I watch now it's because of the subject mater where originally your personality is what entertained me. Then it becomes how many tear downs do I really need to see?Looking over YT history, it seems I watch mostly mailbags. Besides those, I watched the water heater, energy wipes, increasing battery capacity because I know I am going to see your humorous side. I really liked your interview with Ted Wale. My wife and I watched your economics video together which we both thought you did a good job with.Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 08:29:06 amI was not suggesting you had done a video on it, only that it comes up more often. Again I could care less about the subject but I thought it was strange from a business standpoint to see you alienate a group of people based on religion. I did not find it entertaining and thought it in poor taste.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 03:38:48 am
content: Quote from: jaxbird on July 01, 2016, 05:25:51 pmMartin used to post lot, like 5 a week or something, and I was wondering how he was able to do it. I think changes in his personal lifestyle necessitated a lower output rate. I think he even did a video explaining his output rate was going to drop.Even 5 video si not enough to make living from on it's own. As I said before, ad revenue is typically $1-$2 per thousand views. So if his typical videos get say 20k views, that's only $20 per video!People think Youtube pays well, it doesn't, it's pathetic.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 03:43:27 am
content: Quote from: SteveyG on July 01, 2016, 06:21:46 pmThe key is to set the audio level manually, peaking around -6dB or so. I only use automatic audio level when I'm doing an on-site shoot and I don't have time to dick around with audio.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 03:56:31 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 03:38:48 amYou just need to act like pewdipie in your videos dave!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 04:09:45 am
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on July 02, 2016, 03:19:34 amI'm willing to bet it hasn't. It's just that you don't like such things (and that's fine) so it sticks in your mind more.I've seen people claim this time and time again for various things (I'm not doing enough of this and that compared to the past, or I'm doing too many of such and such etc). When I go an actually anlayse the data, they are almost always wrong, it's just a psychology thing in their part.QuoteThe thing you have to understand is that someone (or a group of people) are going to take offence atcountlessthings I say, it's completely unavoidable when you have a large enough audience.I can either chose to appease these people by avoiding or changing the way I say things etc for every single thing people complain about, or I can simply do what I have always done and not try to appease anyone and simply say what I want the way I want it, and not worry about people who chose to take offence. I chose the latter for my own sanity and satisfaction, and because I don't want to live in a world where I have to self-censor for fear of somebody taking offence, let alone be complicate in it.From a business point of view, there is essentially zero impact on my business or subscriber base because of my comments on religion.Religion is down in the noise with anything else "controversial" I say. And FYI, for the xmas comment, I had more people comment positively on that than took offence by it.I did a 7 something minute rant on religion on the 27th June, try to spot an increase in unsubs:You want to know the biggest thing by far I lost the most subscribers over? A joke about a dead cat. Orders of magnitude more unsubs for that than any time I have mentioned religion.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 04:16:22 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on July 02, 2016, 03:33:29 amThe missing 666 video has absolutely nothing to do with superstition or appeasement of anyone or anything.It might still happen, I just need access to a specific thing.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 04:43:23 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 04:16:22 amDead cats in heaven

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 04:56:35 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on July 02, 2016, 03:33:29 amReally? Now I need to check if there was a 13.Right, could care less of peoples views on it but felt the comments were in poor taste.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 05:55:00 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 04:09:45 amNot sure what the bet would be. If it never came up and then you spent a few minutes going on about it, that's an increase. You are correct, I don't like seeing people attack people based on their race, gender, religion, sex. Maybe just in general. Yes, it does stick in my mind as you put it. Not that I agree or disagree with peoples views but am tolerant of them for the most part.Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 04:09:45 amFunny.Quote from: joeqsmith on June 26, 2016, 03:34:33 amI never did figure out what I would have posted that was so bad it needed to be removed. It must have been pretty bad.Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 04:09:45 amI had not seen the joke you mention but can believe going after children and animals would not be taken well.

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 07:11:30 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 03:43:27 amI remember you did a test video a while back - do you have microphone attenuator on Auto or On ATT?

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 08:12:24 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 03:38:48 amAlso, I noticed that Martin has a few times embarked in quite long (and likely expensive) tests, e.g. with battery banks and DMR radios, which I'm not sure they are properly rewarded in the cut-throat YT video market.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 09:14:22 am
content: Quote from: bitwelder on July 02, 2016, 08:12:24 amEffort put into video is generallynotrewarded.People ask me why I don't do this and that video that might involve a week or two's work to make the one video, the answer is obvious it most likely won't gain me any extra views of subscribers, and at the same time it alienates existing viewers because there is no other content that want and like in the mean time.

author: Gary350z
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 09:39:38 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2016, 04:02:50 pmIt seems like a lot of YouTube producers talk about short videos.Do people today have that short of an attention span?We cant watch a movie, its longer than 10 minutes.We cant go to college, its longer than 10 minutes.We cant work, its longer than 10 minutes.We better just stare at our cell phone all day.This is not about you Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 09:53:23 am
content: Quote from: Gary350z on July 02, 2016, 09:39:38 amIf no content is lost, then a shorter video is almost always better. i.e. no one is ever going to complain about a video that is too short.Many people will actually look at the length of the video before pressing play too.QuoteYes. And they somehow think that a 5 minute opamp tutorial can magically contain the same information as a 50 minute tutorial. It just a matter of editing

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 10:01:28 am
content: I side with Gary350z here, I don't mind long videos at all. In most cases I prefer them.As busy as most people sound I feel like I might be wasting my life.. I'm a full-time student with very high grades, and I still have on average 4-5 hours a day to kill, of which a large portion is watching video. I am subscribed to 147 people and I still struggle to fill even an hour a day.Maybe I should get some more hobbies.. or actually try getting out.. with people ()

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 11:39:01 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on July 02, 2016, 10:15:50 amThat's not what I'm talking about.QuoteThe issue being discussed here is that of a professional Youtuber who has gained an audience and must maintain (and grow) that audience in order to stay in business. I'm not talking about personal warm fuzzy reward, video bloggers have to eat.It ultimately comes down to views, and if you don't at least keep your existing audience satisfied, then your channel will ultimately die and the ad revenue and any sponsorship along with it.For a channel like mine or Martin's for example that has been built on fairly consistent frequent and varied content, you can't just switch to spending a few weeks making one video. Your audience will almost certainly eventually drop off, or change drastically.Martin is probably a victim of this to some extent when his content rate dropped off.The practical reality for the content producer is that very few care how long it takes you to make the video, very few care how much effort you put in or how much you spent on it, all they care about (quite rightly) is are they getting what they subscribed for.

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 01:15:51 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 11:39:01 amTrue, most people don't - really - care. If they aren't satisfied with a channel, they switch to another one, mainly because most of the viewers watch for entertainment, personal interest or something else, but nothingessential.

author: Synthetase
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 03:54:50 pm
content: On the subject of good sound in YT videos: I know I'm in the minority here, but I really wish producers would dump a few more bytes into it and push up the encode rate a bit. I'm tired of listening to compression artefacts. It doesn't matter how good your lapel mic is, or how well you've set up the audio on your camera if you squash the bejesus out of it and ruin it later.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 04:18:22 pm
content: Quote from: Synthetase on July 02, 2016, 03:54:50 pmMaybe it's Youtube doing the squashing

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 04:44:45 pm
content: Quote from: Synthetase on July 02, 2016, 03:54:50 pmQuite a few YT videos have really great, high bit rate, high quality video, and sound like the worst telephone call. It puzzles me how the video and audio bit rates get so out of step.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 06:06:53 pm
content: Quote from: Gary350z on July 02, 2016, 09:39:38 amI do not mind videos being long, but I do mind videos that take too long to get to the point, or videos that contain lots of unnecessary talk or meandering in the middle. Watch any 30 minute TV program. You will generally find every minute contains meaningful content, and it is paced such that you are usually disappointed when it is over. That is the lesson to follow.I don't mind longer videos, but I do mind videos that are longer than they need to be.Unfortunately for Martin, I could never watch any of his videos. The pace of presentation was so slow and long and drawn out and so filled with preamble that I could never get past the first minute or two before giving up.

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 06:17:28 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on July 02, 2016, 04:44:45 pmThe bitrate is most likely fine, but it won't do any good when the person recording the video uses the cheapest and crappiest PC microphone they can find, screw up the mixer settings on their PC and to finish it off they don't even talk in the direction of the microphone, so the audio is low and noisy. Sadly, most people don't have a clue about these things. Producing decent quality recordings, whether audio or video takes some skill and experience.

author: digik
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 09:12:25 pm
content: DAVE you will be the next mjlorton. Sooner or later, like any show (no matter how good, and in my opinion your is just average good which is still better than many others) eevblog will come to an END.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 09:16:37 pm
content: Quote from: digik on July 02, 2016, 09:12:25 pmIn other ground breaking news, water is wet.Yes, everything ends, that's how the universe works, and I'm pretty sure in dave's case it will be by his own choice that he retires from making videos.

author: imidis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 09:43:15 pm
content: One thing Dave's got going for him, he seems appreciative and genuine. I'm sure it helps with his other ventures on top of the video blog. It doesn't appear to me that he has his eggs in one basket. He also recognizes the price viewers pay for shipping mailbag items.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 11:15:57 pm
content: Quote from: digik on July 02, 2016, 09:12:25 pmThanks for the vote of encouragement, but you are wrong.I could lose any of my income sources (or several) and I'd survive just fine.I could even have Youtube shut down my channel and I'd survive.If you are saying the show won't exist because I'll grow tired of it or something else comes up that I decide to do instead, yeah, maybe. But it won't die because all my income streams dry up. I'm one of the most robust channels you'll find.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 11:20:17 pm
content: Quote from: IanB on July 02, 2016, 06:06:53 pmThis is probably the biggest thing I'm conscious of these days. I try to go in with the mindset of keeping it as short and concise as possible.But I always find stuff to talk about of course, but I like to think it's all valuable material. If I don't think it adds value then I edit it out.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 11:30:13 pm
content: If I had to do a video on something I'd script it from A-Z but then again... I never did a video.

author: imidis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 11:53:40 pm
content: Minus a few bits of bitterness, it does seem a useful discussion for youtubers to get insight on where they might improve or do things differently, I wouldn't let a little noise spoil it.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2016, 11:59:03 pm
content: Quote from: imidis on July 02, 2016, 11:53:40 pmI agree this has been reasonably civil and informative. I have learned a lot from it. Thanks

author: FlyingHacker
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2016, 01:43:01 am
content: I find myself watching most YouTube videos at 1.25-2x speed these days.Dave is usually around 1.25 or 1.5x. Things like product reviews where I'm only somewhat interested, but not actually learning much, I watch a little faster. If I am trying to study something I slow it back down.I wish the iPad app could do fast playback. I typically use my laptop for that very reason.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2016, 03:20:15 am
content: Quote from: FlyingHacker on July 03, 2016, 01:43:01 amJust found out how to do this and like it. thanks

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2016, 04:38:30 am
content: Glad you're finding it useful as well, ez. It's surprising how quickly you can adapt to it. It's funny to then switch back to normal speed and hear them speeeak sooo slooowlyyy.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2016, 05:13:16 am
content: Quote from: bitseeker on July 03, 2016, 04:38:30 amI just watched one of Dave's videos and set up the speed. After about 10 min I started to wonder why he was speaking so fast. It was about 5 more min until I remembered I set up the speed.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2016, 10:58:36 am
content: Quote from: IanB on July 02, 2016, 06:06:53 pm+1I have started many of his videos and then I find myself in skipping forward in the hope something interesting will pop up.But usually the interesting part are in the pictures and it is enough to look at while pausing the video.His videos are just far too slow paced.

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2016, 12:15:13 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 11:20:17 pmThanks. Anyway, people can skip, if needed. In mailbag for instance, I think you don't need to put time markers (clickable links in description) to skip to next object, we can do it. It's a lot a work for... a few skip clicks.I like the format of your videos. And I can download them to watch later, if needed.Comments (in videos) are interesting.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2016, 05:36:45 pm
content: Quote from: Falkra on July 03, 2016, 12:15:13 pm+1

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2016, 09:51:26 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 11:15:57 pmThat, my friends, is call "f**k you" money. A places Martin didn't get to, despite copying a the format of a channel that was making 10k or so at the time. And also, who said if you make youtube videos you'd be guaranteed a living? No one, last I checked.

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 04, 2016, 10:09:34 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on July 02, 2016, 11:30:13 pmScripting is painful and often ends up sounding very unnatural. Having said that, it's probably a good idea to have a list of items you want to cover so you don't miss things out, or go off on a tangent talking about something for half the video.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2016, 11:37:45 am
content: Quote from: SteveyG on July 04, 2016, 10:09:34 am+1 - Unless you're very experienced at reading fluidly from a script, that's not going to work out, and unless you;re aiming for a very polished and concise result ( e.g. for a sales or kicksterter vid) or need higher prodution values, it's going to take a lot longer for minimal benefit.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2016, 06:35:48 pm
content: Scripting doesn't have to mean reading from a teleprompter.Scripting can mean making a list of the key points you want to cover, and the essential details of each point you want to include, and then rehearsing those in your mind before beginning.It's still hard in my experience, but I'm sure it gets better with practice.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2016, 07:07:24 pm
content: IME scripting can sound natural but it takes a lot of pre-work to come up with something that covers absolutely everything you need to show. One of its major advantages is to create subtitles (a good thing for non-English channels)

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2016, 07:13:39 pm
content: Also, this whole discussion reminded me of a pertinent clip from another Youtuber:https://youtu.be/RfgRDdDzxEM

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 04, 2016, 10:20:54 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 04, 2016, 11:37:45 amagreed, sometimes i might write some bullet points for introductions on a bit of paper and go through them in turn, never anything more than that though

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2016, 10:55:14 pm
content: I don't watch him videos much, but it is always a sad thing when a content provider goes off line, even a little bit.Wish him best of the luck and hope that someday he can resume - looks like this is really his passion.

author: diyaudio
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2016, 10:24:04 am
content: As someone that's from South Africa, I have a deep admiration for Martin, he started all of this whilst he was still in South Africa.I watched Martin rise whilst looking for sponsors locally which is near impossible, people here have an old business mentality and by the time I was interested in electronics he packed up and moved to the U.S, I would have assumed things would work out for the better as this crime forsaken country doesn't offer EE growth let alone personal career growth.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 05, 2016, 12:15:37 pm
content: Quote from: dexters_lab on July 04, 2016, 10:20:54 pmVery occasionally I've used some bullet points on a post-it note stuck on the camera. Have maybe done that half a dozen times.

author: Bob F.
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2016, 04:56:15 pm
content: For me, it is mainly about content. I'm happy with long videos that might ramble a little (Hi Dave) as long as they stay interesting. Martin moved from general and wide-ranging electronics topics to becoming essentially a review site for the mostly uninteresting (to me) equipment that he was sent for review (I assume much was provided as the cost would have been prohibitive if he had to buy it). No interest for me there so I moved on. If he moves back to more general stuff, I will likely move back too. I certainly wish him well as he seems a nice bloke, but if the content does not appeal to me then, sorry...I don't mind the adverts at the beginning - at least they are not for bloody Squarethingy or Audibabble which infest so many of my favourite podcasts and youtube channels

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2016, 07:35:59 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 02, 2016, 11:15:57 pmIt's delusional to think youtubers just run of their advertisement money. Well, maybe the very big ones do (multi-million subs one-man band channels). For any other sane content producer I imagine the income model is much like LinusTechtips (like posted before). Every small bit helps!I think it's not hard to count almost a dozen sources of income that all will add up:- Youtube ad money (although that's going down hard despite YT Red I imagine)- Fixed video ads- Sponsorship- Merchandise- Amazon affiliate links- Patreon- Advertisement on blog site and forum (although I'd imagine that is to cover server costs)- "Consultancy" video work to appear in 3rd party content- Selling of own (or rebranded for that matter) products- DonationsNot saying all is applicable to all channels like the Eevblog, but I can also imagine why e.g. the Eevblog meter exists (to spread risks).I think however mjlorton does have a point to always review what the core audience likes to see in his video's. I kinda like the drivetime rants or industry stories Dave did back in the day, but I can imagine it's not possible to produce that kind of content anymore. OTOH it could just be nostalgia, just like the major motivations for a brexit IMHO.

author: LazyJack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2016, 05:31:10 pm
content: Here are my 2 cents.I regularly watch Dave, Mike, Bigclive, w2aew and a number of other channels. I'm also subscribed to Martin. One problem I had with his videos (other than being overly long) was that he did not sound convincing to me. For all the others I believe that they very well know what they are doing. However, Martin gives the impression that he does his homework very well, reads and prepares for what he is presenting, but some foundation stuff is missing and just cannot convince me that he really has a deep understanding in electronics. So things like when he was surprised on what the Fluke 87V measures in nS, or when on his power supply he thought that the 2N3055 was a power FET, these really destroy the authority of his videos.So after some time I stopped watching his videos,, casue I did not feel that they gave any valuable knowledge. (Of course, the same is true for Big Clive on pink flashing USB power supplies, but his videos are fun to watch. As his brother's on whisky.)

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2016, 09:11:03 pm
content: His brother does whisky videos ? What's the channel's name. LittleClive ?

author: LazyJack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2016, 09:35:09 pm
content: Quote from: Falkra on July 20, 2016, 09:11:03 pmNot exactly. It's Ralfystuff.

author: Dave
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:11:59 am
content: Quote from: LazyJack on July 20, 2016, 05:31:10 pmThis is exactly why I stopped watching his videos quite some time ago.

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 01:46:21 am
content: I un-subbed from Martin a long time ago. I came across him after liking Dave's stuff and looking for other EE content.I also subscribed to Big clive, Photonic induction, Rossman, Retro Game Tech, Electron Update, Mike's electric stuff, Signal Path, w2aew, Feedback loop and some others I am forgetting.The reason I ditched Martin is because his videos seemed devoid of any technical knowledge - I think it was his machining video that really set me over the edge. And his response to it was lackluster at best. He definitely rambles on and takes 10 minutes to say what he could say in 10 seconds... and I just haven't seen any interesting topics come up in quite a while.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 02:07:14 am
content: Quote from: Bob F. on July 05, 2016, 04:56:15 pmI can't see how those Audible.com affiliate promos are sustainable.IIRC they get $50 for everyone who signs up for at trial. That's great if you have a million sub, you might get a few thousand signing up, so it'll be nice for the first year or so.But the problems then come down to:a) Exhausting your existing audience.andb) Competing all the other bloggers in your space, and hence greatly overlapping audiences, they can only sign up for one of them...The science Youtubers are a classic example of this where they majority share an audience, and they are all trying to get you to sign up to the same thing.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 05:02:11 am
content: Quote from: hans on July 05, 2016, 07:35:59 pmFor me my income breakdown (in rough order from highest to lowest) is:- Website ads- Forum ads- Products sales (uCurrent, multimeter)- Adsense (youtube + website sometimes)- Patreon- Amazon- PayPal Donations- T-Shirts

author: all_repair
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 06:08:34 am
content: I roughly remembered watching one of his early show, and was very puzzled by his approach of asking viewers (strangers) to help him make a living on his youtube. I would not even ask that from my parents after I graduated. I do believe that the high quality content youtube, with targeted audience, can be very valuable to advertisers that are looking for these well filtered audiences to reach out to.Only if signalpath or mikeelectric want to milk their production, ...Mike had to be begged to open a patreon account.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 06:10:16 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2016, 05:02:11 amHow about bikinis, ie branded male bikinisps I think the first time I saw someone wear one, was an Australian

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 06:45:18 am
content: Quote from: dexters_lab on July 01, 2016, 12:13:42 pmSame, I found his solar power videos to be somewhat unique, as most out there not only lack depth, but are more interested in selling the product than explaining it.Perhaps he painted himself into a corner by moving to the US with it's lower uptake of solar and 120V AC mains.

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2016, 10:34:26 am
content: Quote from: LazyJack on July 20, 2016, 09:35:09 pmThank you.

author: vze1lryy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2016, 03:51:35 am
content: One interesting thing I took away from this thread was the seemingly recurring opinion of"I unsubbed because he seemed to be making it up as he went..."Which is interesting, since for the most part, I make it up as I go.. I'm as unknowledgeable as they come, playing connect the dots with my D student high school education... I figured maybe it was the presentation, since I'm upfront with the audience that I am an idiot. Maybe this guy is pretending to be an engineer he is not? Wrong, when I go to his page he says presented from an amateur point of view. Interesting.I get $45-$65/day from the videos I do, and that's only after 3 and a half years of consistent uploading... if someone is doing this for the money, they will fail. I made more than that putting pricetags on basketballs and it didn't take 3 years to build up to it. You have to enjoy it. For me it's easy since I am just recording me doing my profitable job, so I can continue with no patreon/ad revenue. Ad revenue does make it cool, and not make me feel like a dumbass when I go out and spend half a grand on one microphone or $1000 on some fancy microscope camera... but if that were the driving force, I'd have said FTS years ago. What I do like about this not being my prime revenue source is the freedom to record what I enjoy recording, and not caring about appealing to the peanut gallery... which ironically, appeals to the peanut gallery. Imagine that.I wish him the best of luck with whatever he does!

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2016, 04:21:42 am
content: Quote from: vze1lryy on July 26, 2016, 03:51:35 amDid you do a tear down of a million dollar scope? I forgot who did it.You could add your YT link in your profile like where your name is (which works also)

author: hammy
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 26, 2016, 04:56:01 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on July 26, 2016, 04:21:42 amYT -> rossmanngroup