Infiray T2 series, trying to understand.. - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: nikitasius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2022, 10:04:09 pm
content: Hi folks, i try to understand the difference between Infiray T2 models using infiray.com/infirayoutdoor.com , forum and google, so if i'm wrong please correct methey are all 256x192@12 except T2S with 240x180@12they are all 25Hzthey are all use Matrix IIIthey are all have home-made ASICNext the difference:T2L useGermanium monocrystallensesT2L have temp -20°C+120°CT2L have FOV 33.4 it's near 60mm for 35mm lenses (close portrait 85mm, handy)T2S have temp -20°C+120°CT2S have FOV 34.8 it's near 57mm for 35mm lenses (bit more than an eye)T2S lenses ??T2S have 240x180@12 resolutionT2S+ have temp -20°C+120°CT2S+ have FOV 44.9 it's near 44mm for 35mm lenses (it's perfect lenses for everydayphoto, i.e. 44mm/FF )T2S+ lenses composite + macroT2S+ have 256x192@12 resolution, better than T2ST2 also called T2SearchT2Search have temp 0°C+80°CT2Search have FOV 19.6 it's near 105mm for 35mm lenses (far Portrait/Tele)(T2) NightVisionGo temp -20°C+170°C(T2) NightVisionGo dont use Ge lenses it's "composite"(T2) NightVisionGo have FOV 56 it's near 33mm for 35mm lenses (wide lenses)From the info i got looks like really nice "T2" for kinds of thermal observations isT2L. TRange is good, optics made from Ge Monocrystal, FOV is great. While T2S (just S) is obsolete model.Guess T2L winning challenge Vs T2S+ just having Ge lenses (ignoring FOVs).FOV tables fromhttps://www.nikonians.org/reviews/fov-tables

author: svgurus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2022, 09:35:17 pm
content: they also might use different appschinese marketing is funny, though searching some specific flir specs is similar pain in backside.

author: autotech
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 11, 2022, 06:57:18 am
content: InfiRay search is what they ask for but image is not as good as if you use xtherm infrared app . also hti image WIFI-view app. I i find a good difference in image quality .If anyone try i would like to know what your opinion is for these app .

author: autotech
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 11, 2022, 09:49:56 pm
content: What app do you use ? I tried Iray search quality is not as good as Xtherm infrared app or Hti image app . i would like some feedback . Thanks

author: DaneLaw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2022, 09:35:07 pm
content: thx a lot for trying to paint an overview.I also tried to create myself an overview of the different Infiray models in the T2 series and in the T3 series.T2pro, T2Splus, T2L, T2 Search,and what makes it really confusing.. is that it seems that the apps, also vary... the search variant seems to be able to use the Infiray Search app (scope purpose), though not sure about the others, and the same with the Xtherm app.. some of the T2 series can use that app, and I got the impression that some models in the T2 series cant.Same with T3 (units with 384x288 microbolometer sensor) where there also are a few T3S, T3, T3 Search, and T3pro, and then the Hti301/HT301 which seems to be identical to T3S.I don't know what the difference is between T3 and T3S other then perhaps the lens size.. but maybe the T3 is simply a T3 search and some sellers list it as only "T3" without the "search"..So 13mm lens for T3S and T3Pro and 19mm for T3search/T3.the T3S is often quite a bit more expensive than the T3 on Alibaba and Taobao. which doesn't make sense if the T3S-lens (13mm) is even smaller than T3 (19mm) and everything else is equal. ?A jungle trying to grasp an overview of the differences/models amongst Infiray dongles.T2L seems to be an overall decent 256x192 dongle, but thats mostly because of the price that came across quite attractive with incl. EU vat and below the others - but also often delivers the somewhat cleaner & more contrast rich picture but the app seems to leave a lot to be desired and to an extent that Seek's app, almost seems spectacular good' in regards to Infiray's variant...Not even sure that you can lock s given span on Infiray's native app.so crucial to not let details get blown out and a feature that I use a lot on Seek's app..Got a T2L in transit, after BG had them on quite low discounted price 2 weeks back.example of span lock (Seek Pro FF iOS).. a pregnant 4S lipo-handwarmer and a battery testing rig with an electronic load...

author: thermalengineer
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 22, 2022, 02:02:21 am
content: Very impressive introduction! Previously, it's soooooo difficult for me to understand infiray t2 series. I have known about it now, thanks to you!!! BTW, I would like some feedback about the infiray app quality and waterproofness.

author: Bonnie.Liran
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 23, 2022, 03:57:11 am
content: I would like to know you mentioned "a good difference in image quality".I tried both apps, and as far as I know, XTHERM is for temperature measurement use, and SEARCH is for outdoor night vision use. And for sure its used for different model types of thermal imagers.

author: WilliamG
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 23, 2022, 06:41:15 am
content: I've seen many reviews on YouTube recently and was just wondering if there's any website where I can buy it ? Like an amazon link maybe ?

author: nikitasius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 12:12:35 pm
content: Quote from: DaneLaw on August 16, 2022, 09:35:07 pmWow, you made an awesome review, thank you!

author: nikitasius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 23, 2023, 09:26:11 am
content: Ordered X2 from Aliexpresshttps://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_EQ8dD19There are discounts until 27/08.Once i will get it i will share feedback here + need a teardown.

author: ArsenioDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 23, 2023, 06:10:07 pm
content: Whoa that X2 looks awesome, I think I'll order one or two myself!

author: nikitasius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2023, 09:07:37 am
content: Yeah they are improved the chassis (ip65, full metal), type-c connector (more pins) & it now gives 50Hz in viewer mode (w/ temp detections it drops to 25Hz).Also some folks say that plugged to PC it says 50Hz, so.. probably true 50Hz.Infiray have official shops on amazon.com, "website" & aliexpress. I'm in France to i took on Aliexpress, well, we'll see how it will be delivered (it's DHL). And how much taxes i will pay.I paid item price + VAT, so the only, guess, the tax they could charge are the customs one. And, maybe for DHL handling it. We'll see, they say few days remains lol.

author: nikitasius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 02:52:38 pm
content: Got my X2, will share more stuff. But.. pretty good TIC.Some videos:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12hrdmE1RqeafaK5wba5T0-0Vi8uT--KzOriginal videos was reduced (résolution) and compressed. Cause app produce pretty big upscaled files.

author: nikitasius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 03:31:07 pm
content: The negative moment: you CAN'T fix TIC in the handle as is. So i added some soft elements.

author: nikitasius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 04:59:39 pm
content: Disabled auto shutter (the calibration one).So to use camera long time it will have gradient issue, when it's just started to work (which disappear after clicking on shutter).Guess due compact size it's hotting inside guess.

author: nikitasius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 06:58:28 pm
content: Btw, i it's a scrap if you want to use it to measure the température, pretty wild digits lol (guess +10°C--+13°C).Anyway i took it for the image & diag purposes. So.. not for measurements.

author: ArsenioDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 07:26:51 pm
content: I'd primarily get this for the visualization, not temperature. And as for the temp rise, would be doin a housing delete anyway lol