Good quality chineese soldering station - Page 1
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author: wons
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2023, 02:10:11 pm
content: Hey guysAt work i use the jbc soldering station and i realy like it - so i decided to buy a clone .After watching some video reviews i bought the SUGON clone that turned to be a total crap that except for looking and feeling nice - it couldnt heatup or maintain temperature at allSo any recomendations for other jbc clone that could be used for fine work like 0402 0603 but also can heatup and tin coat small poligons?And if posible that could use original jbc catridges?

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2023, 02:38:07 pm
content: When buying clone irons, it's a good idea to pick one that uses the same tip format as genuine ones.That way you can put a genuine tip on it.Normally what makes an iron work well is the tip coatings and quality.I've used a few china irons over the years and unit assembly / quality control, and tip quality are almost all of the problems you encounter. Also good idea to check grounding and ensure the power switch is on the phase line.If I had to guess, your one not getting hot enough is probably an assembly problem. Dry solder joint or bad connector or something.

author: tatel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2023, 03:27:50 pm
content: Any T12 from KSGER or Quicko with a real STM32 on it. So you can use David Alfa's custom firmware. You can mod it to work with JBC handles, it's said it's not dificult. They have enough power to work with SMD components. You could also try original T12 Hakko tips without any modding. Pushing the adjustments in that custom firmware and using a D52 tip will allow you to solder almost anything. I'm happy with my quicko and Hakko T12 clone tips.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/stm32-oled-digital-soldering-station-for-t12-handle/msg4993726/#msg4993726

author: Swake
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2023, 09:50:34 pm
content: Check out the AIXUN T3BHas several handle sizes such as T115 and T210Fits the original JBC tips too.

author: mastershake
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2023, 12:41:52 pm
content: as far as ones from china the aixun ones are hands down the best imo out there. and the 420 series is the best of them. but the a and b models work excellent. i also have the sugon and hated it i gave it away if im being honest when i compared it to the aixun. my favorite of them is the 420d. but really any of the aixun ones work very well and they have most if not all of the bugs by now worked out of them firmware wise.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2023, 08:29:40 pm
content: Sugon should be decent,Did you try your genuine JBC tips in it?Did you calibrate the temperature?

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2023, 11:43:57 am
content: It's pretty likely his one has some sort of a fault. Intermittent or otherwise.

author: vulkan35
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2023, 09:41:00 am
content: GEEBOON TC20A 240W JBC C245, C210, C115, Hakko T12TC20AGEEBOON TC20B 380W JBC C470, C245, C210, C115, Hakko T12TC20BAixun to the trash....

author: ilkinandr92
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 05:15:07 am
content: Where can you buy this one?

author: vulkan35
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 05:55:04 am
content: Quote from: ilkinandr92 on August 19, 2023, 05:15:07 am

author: ilkinandr92
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 07:25:26 am
content: Missed that, thank you.Do you have one by any chance and do you know if it support 110v?

author: vulkan35
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 11:06:26 am
content: Quote from: ilkinandr92 on August 19, 2023, 07:25:26 amGEEBOON TC20B 380W supply power Li-ion 18650.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 11:26:16 am
content: When JBC clone sucks, you should change the cartridges to something better, preferably original. Unless station outputs lower voltage (unlikely), there should be no large difference in performance. If you use the same crap cartridges on original JBC station, most likely the result will be exactly the same.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 12:42:54 pm
content: Quote from: vulkan35 on August 16, 2023, 09:41:00 amI'd guess those Geeboon stations will have one more "evolution" round before they will start to appear also on Aliexpress, under plenty of new brandnames

author: slavoy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 12:50:00 pm
content: AiXun T420D is the best-made Chinese soldering station in the JBC style that I've seen so far. It also has manufacturer support and frequent, easy firmware updates, which is uncommon for such equipment from China. There is cheaper single-channel version available (T420) if you don't need the dual workstation.

author: vulkan35
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 01:47:46 pm
content: Quote from: slavoy on August 19, 2023, 12:50:00 pmwhen I saw her for the first time I laughed for a long time. it looks like a soap dishes.

author: jonpaul
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2023, 01:45:07 pm
content: "Good quality ...Chinese"Oxymoronj

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2023, 02:19:28 pm
content: Quote from: jonpaul on August 21, 2023, 01:45:07 pmHolier than though...oron. Chinese produce quite a bit of top notch or even best in class equipment even with domestic R&D (DJI drones for example).

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2023, 03:04:41 pm
content: I'll stress that this thread looks stupid to me. All discussion about station itself and total disregard to cartridges which were used (except Psi). Those are where 90% of performance comes from. From what I've seen, SUGON is completely OK and works almost as original JBC when original cartridges are used.

author: Arts
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 22, 2023, 01:53:20 am
content: Quote from: wons on August 12, 2023, 02:10:11 pmI liked the JBC soldering station so much I bought a real one.

author: Yellofriend
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2023, 01:17:45 am
content: Quote from: wraper on August 21, 2023, 03:04:41 pmI disagree. Because you always buy a original JBC tip, but you are stuck with the station. I am in the same boat right now with two stations using the Hakko 900M type tip. IMHO both underperform.Currently looking into:KSGER STM32 V3.1S+Cheap <$50- Can use only T12 (should be enough actually)AIXUN T3A+JBC clone stand (optional)+ Great review- Well over $100Geeboon TC20A+ Well below $50+ Can use T20, C245, C210, C115 handles/tips- No reviews yet- Can't find outside TaobaoAIFEN / 爱风 A9pro+ with holder+ can set 3 temps+ well below $100- No T12 (but C***)All price ideas from Taobao.comThe Geeboon looks tempting, the Ksger is sort of well known for years and similar priced. I think I will go with the Geeboon.Update: Geeboon TC20A - first impressionOrdered Saturday, received Monday. Not too bad ;-) Well packed.Surprise 1: The paper manual has English!Surprise 2: The stand does not suit T12 tips. Stand too short, part holes too small, and worst - bottom not flat, it wobbles (which is not a big deal since it can't be used anyway)https://streamable.com/6vf7jyStation works and can be set to English. I think I will buy also the other handpieces, C210 etc, need to have a look.After using it for a while.....Their website ishttps://geeboon.com(not much to see)The heat-up time to 350°C is about 20-30 Seconds (that is when the solder on a T12 tipp melts) - seems slow, or?The sleep mode on the supplied T12 hand piece is not very sensitive and it switches off while I work (switch off time can be set or disabled)

author: lastone
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 06, 2023, 10:59:43 pm
content: I ordered the bigger one, we'll see how it goes.

author: minkok
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2024, 01:55:05 pm
content: TC22 has a nice feature - Dynamic temperature compensation（DTC) and plenty of options, also it supports T245, 210, 115, and T12. I'd like to test it out. vulkan35, Do you have T245 and T210 handle pinouts?

author: minkok
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2024, 08:16:55 am
content: The T210 and T245 connectors pinouts, were needed for comparison, but now I do not need them, I bought the GEEBOON TC22 station

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2024, 08:20:48 pm
content: Quote from: minkok on October 06, 2024, 08:16:55 amI had another thread here if you want to add any details:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/geeboon-tc20a-240w-tc20b-380w-jbc-clone/Maybe you can add some photos to determine what their claim means: "TC22 is an upgraded version of TC20 The circuit has been improved a lot."

author: ststefanov13
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2024, 06:54:08 am
content: I bought a GEEBOON TC22 soldering station (C115 handle) and a GEEBOON SW03 switch at the same time. had colleagues bought TC22 (C210 handle), TC22 (C245) . I need the wiring of the handles to modify mine. I have AIXUN handles, but as far as I know the wiring is different for example AIXUN C115 has a resistor in the connector and help to correctly identify the handle from T3B station.The seller is silent like a partisan when questioned about the wiring, the station according to the description should also be connected to a T12 handle, but how to wire it?Thanks in advance.

author: ststefanov13
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2024, 12:08:17 am
content: GEEBOON Ali seler finally answered my request for handles pinout );

author: Frtech
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 20, 2024, 06:44:08 pm
content: @ststefanov13Can you post the original picture if it has a bette resolution? We can't read the screenshot...

author: ststefanov13
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2024, 12:33:30 am
content: GEEBOON pinout high resolution.

author: MathWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2024, 11:58:05 pm
content: I gave away my old soldering station, and now I wish still had it, so that I might try soldering really big stuff with both irons. I still have another, big old high power Weller tho, but IDK what tip's it takes, and it's dangerous to use on most stuff.My old tip-style Hakko is doing great, and the cheap tips I got somewhere, are doing fine too.I really want to get a small, touch-up iron, that could probably be power from 5V USB, or I'm sure I've seen cordless ones too. Just for tiny solder jobs, away from the bench, or in a tight spot.