Adding a non electronics related catagory to the forum ?? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Homer J Simpson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 06:03:51 am
content: What are your thoughts on adding a non electronics related category to the forum?I was thinking of a "hobbies and interests" sort of a thing.Seems like most of us have an interest in a lot of other interesting science, technology things, ect.For example here is a documentary on Chernobyl.KT

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 06:09:33 am
content: isn't that exactly what general chat is for?

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 06:09:38 am
content: Quote from: Homer J Simpson on January 04, 2014, 06:03:51 amI have a general interest in radioactive stuff. I'm trying to locate different samples, right now, just have Americium 241, and depleted uranium, but hopefully will find some radium if I can find an old clock or watches.

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 06:10:54 am
content: Quote from: Rerouter on January 04, 2014, 06:09:33 amNot apparently. Or that was the impression given to me by someone who deleted some of my posts.

author: Vgkid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 06:15:15 am
content: What about a general thread title of chat/ positive/ negative/ etc...threads. In which people can post anything related to those thread titles.

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 06:17:06 am
content: QuoteI think an Off-topic board would be nice.

author: Radio Tech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 12:49:01 pm
content: There may be a few problems with that. I often visit certain forums like this one.Some of them have just what you are asking. When I hit new post button I want to see new post about what the forum is based on.Like this forum, I want to see Electronics related material.Not what going on in politics, what you had for dinner last night, or what that rash is on your backside!I just hate sifting through tons of non related post. The very reason I do not frequent a few forums anymore.

author: Jon86
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:01:57 pm
content: I think it would be good to have a category for unrelated topics, I know it's an electronics forum and fair enough if the mods + Dave decide it should stay that way, but I don't think it'd hurt to have a bit of science and things like that in here. It's not like it's going to take over the forum and make everything unrelated to electronics.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:07:58 pm
content: Quote from: Stonent on January 04, 2014, 06:10:54 amOccasional off-topic stuff is ok, but this is an electronics forum and the majority like to keep it focused on that.If you allow anything, then you must allow everything, and then the forum unread post list (a popular way to use the forum) gets choked up with politics, religion, war, sex, conspiracies, or whatever people have a bee in the their bonnet over.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:09:07 pm
content: Quote from: Jon86 on January 04, 2014, 01:01:57 pmI'd have no objections to a science section.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:17:00 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 04, 2014, 01:09:07 pmBut no maths!

author: Jon86
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:28:17 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 04, 2014, 01:09:07 pmI think a science section would be great, keeps that sort of thing out of the main electronics part of the forum, and you could have some really interesting discussions.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:36:48 pm
content: Quote from: Stonent on January 04, 2014, 06:10:54 amTo be more specific, General Chat can apparently include inane topics like 'what soda do you drink' and nobody bats an eye. But discuss any topic that is beyond the rather limited awareness of a certain mod, who we shall call Geoffs, and your post will be deleted. You won't even get a courtesy notification/explanation until you demand one. No matter how factual or electronics-relevant the post.It's becoming quite routine.I think those of us here who like a somewhat wider-ranging and unfettered conversation, need an alternate channel beyond the reach of delete-happy types. Also it should help to keep eevblog forum free of things that make some people here uncomfortable.So here's a brand new yahoo group: eevblog_free_chathttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/eevb_altProblem solved.It's only just set up, needs fine tuning.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:38:01 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on January 04, 2014, 01:03:21 pm"Views expressed not in line with those of management."

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:41:34 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on January 04, 2014, 01:36:48 pmBwwwhhhhhaahhhaaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.................... This from Mr "The Zionists (Jews) control America and are determined to kill 90% of the worlds population to instill a one world government."

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:47:35 pm
content: Quote from: GK on January 04, 2014, 01:41:34 pmHey be nice, we can't have users picking on him, that's my job (apparently)

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 01:51:33 pm
content: Joined the Yahoo Group.Now another set of spam to ignore..........

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 02:02:12 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on January 04, 2014, 01:51:51 pmA good example was the deletion of the welding tank truck explosion video. Simply a wow video, non offensive, non political and still deleted.

author: Homer J Simpson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 02:38:34 pm
content: I vote for a science and technology category.That's kind of what I meant anyway.Certainly not interested in the politics, religion, ect thing on this forum.KT

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 02:49:17 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 04, 2014, 01:07:58 pmIs there a way to allow users to specify what they see on the list? What about 1) allowing that, and 2) setting certain categories todefaultto not displaying in the list?

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 03:33:47 pm
content: Quote from: GK on January 04, 2014, 01:41:34 pmI was referring to a post inhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/wireless-car-key-thieves/where referencing well established details of car electronics internet connectivity, hijacking demonstrations of same, and recently leaked detailed information on NSA techniques of gaining backdoor access to web-connected targets, was deleted as 'conspiracy theory' by Geoffs.Sadly you can't even keep your derogatory details straight, so little point discussing with you. But since your claims of my position are incorrect, here's my actual view, highly condensed.Zionists are small sub-cult of Judaism (which is neither a race or a religion.) Zionists are a racial supremacist bunch of lunatics, who unfortunately actually do control most of the US political system. And yes, their being racial supremacists despite not actually being a single race themselves is very bizarre.The Global Cull types are a separate bunch, with separate ideology, though there is some overlap with the Zionists.Anyway, do please join the group and discuss. You may care to explain there how despite claiming to not be Jewish, you pop up every time Israel is mentioned, defending the indefensible. Megaphony perhaps? Let's see how you go in an environment in which you can't have listings of information resources deleted at your request.Incidentally, I've never run a yahoo group before, so please bear with my learning curve. For starters, posts seem to lose formatting.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 03:46:59 pm
content: See how I didn't delete that? TL;DRWait, your yahoo group has had posts? from other people?

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 03:48:39 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on January 04, 2014, 01:51:33 pmHa ha! Not so! I too hate cluttering mail, so the group is set to 'No email'. You'll only see it if you visit.I don't expect it to ever see much traffic.Quote from: GeoffS on January 04, 2014, 03:46:59 pmSee how I deliberately avoided putting any actual references to any resources in there, so there wasn't anything you'd feel justified to delete. Since it seems to be people being shown things you don't believe, that offends you and makes your delete finger twitch.Also see how you can't help being condescending and insulting, without any justification? The group has now existed for what, half an hour?Anyway, you get the idea. It's a forum specifically for people to discuss YOUR deletions of their posts. I hope you're annoyed.Edit: And it seems youareannoyed. I have acquired a profile badge of honor - I am 'watched'. See pic. Who else has that I wonder?

author: strangelovemd12
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 04:01:38 pm
content: If any off topic/ non EE categories are added I vote for them not being included in the unread topics/ forum search by default. An outlet for general chat might help keep other threads focused, but the search has enough trouble being useful as it is.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 04:03:58 pm
content: Hopefully the search issue will be/is being resolved.I'm not sure that SMF forum software is fine grained enough to exempt a board from the search.

author: strangelovemd12
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 04:12:09 pm
content: Maybe someone will send a phpBB into the mailbag.I thought I read the categories that show up in "unread" could be user defined, so presumable that could default off. As long as the search works well, presumably it's very nature would filter out general chat noise. Unless we all start inserting ran555dom part numbers in unrelated posts.

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 04:37:40 pm
content: Quote from: strangelovemd12 on January 04, 2014, 04:12:09 pmOr a vBulletin license... lol... nobody is that rich...

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 04:46:42 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on January 04, 2014, 02:08:49 pmHa, we delete one of actual exciting events, and leave this one:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/if-you-could-have-anything-or-everything-for-free-what-would-you-get/

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 04:48:15 pm
content: This forum is a pretty good representation of why democracy doesn't work.

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 05:10:49 pm
content: Quote from: GeoffS on January 04, 2014, 01:17:00 pmNo math?Them's fightin' words!

author: DonRon
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 05:29:37 pm
content: Hi girls and guys,I love this forum - because there are only few non EE related threads.In Germany we have an EE and microcontroller related forum. Sadly aboiut 50 % of the threads are not really EE related and there are a lot of useless discussions (lot of bullshit).I have not seen this in the EEV-Blog - maybe only a little bit.I love The EEVblog for having a really high percentage of useful and interesting EE related info. I do not miss anything non related stuff here.So PLEASE do NOT add any other categories - I fear that these will lead to a similar situation like in the german forum (www.mikrocontroller.net). There are enough other forums to talk about everything.But these are only my personal feelings.And ... by the way ... Happy new year to all of you,Cheers,Ronald

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 05:33:20 pm
content: Quote from: DonRon on January 04, 2014, 05:29:37 pmQuote from: DonRon on January 04, 2014, 05:29:37 pm

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 05:49:57 pm
content: I think the general chat category is just fine for non EE topics. The only category I would probably agree with is a metrology category. Since all the categories are specific except for the general chat, if there was enough interest in metrology, then maybe a category is warranted. I think a poll should be run to see if there is enough interest.

author: baljemmett
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 06:05:32 pm
content: Quote from: c4757p on January 04, 2014, 02:49:17 pmThere is a user option to control which boards show up in the unread topics list (and in search, unless overridden), but I don't know whether it can be set by default globally. I suspect Dave wouldn't be keen on adding such a board, though, even if it is possible...

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 08:39:08 pm
content: Quote from: GeoffS on January 04, 2014, 01:17:00 pmNo m*ths? :DD

author: deth502
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 08:42:14 pm
content: i used to spend my time on a lot of internet forums (not ee related, but thats not the point) i usually come home from work, screw around on the pc for an hour, then maybe an hr or 2 before bed, so, id check in once, maybe twice a day. now i do 3, this being one of them, and frankly, this one is on the bubble. most of them are just too fast to keep up with. if i check in once a day, and there is 2 pages of new posts, thats great. if i check in every 8 hours and there are 7 pages of new posts, its gets overwhelming, and i just giv it up. this forum is already VERY busy. i think adding a bunch of useless bullshit subforums would not enhance it in anyway, and would only detract from it in making it more overwhelming to anyone who is not sitting there and hitting refresh on the new posts every 5 min.i think the yahoo group @terra is the best idea and easiest solution for something like this, although, i really think he should have asked mgt before using their brand. im not sure if it is actually "illegal" or not, but it is surely common sense and good manners to do so, if nothing else.

author: DonRon
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 08:51:58 pm
content: Quote from: deth502 on January 04, 2014, 08:42:14 pm

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 08:59:21 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on January 04, 2014, 01:03:21 pmI don't think I even posted in that thread.I just have a problem with posts being EDITED or DELETED without notification. And this is the only forum I've been on where that seems to happen.At least when a topic is locked there usually an explanation and occasionally that explanation is it was locked because one or more people had an opinion or belief that was contrary to the person locking the thread.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 09:06:43 pm
content: Quote from: GeoffS on January 04, 2014, 04:03:58 pmSure it is, just use the advanced SMF search.

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2014, 09:10:15 pm
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on January 04, 2014, 05:49:57 pmPretty much this. Chat works fine as bullshit attractor aka policitalsink. And indeed, if there's something that could do with a category and is EE related, then it's metrology IMO. But that has already been discussed and decided against, so nope, no need for a random category!=metrology.And yes, please cut it out with the deleting stuff just because it ruffles your feathers. It's a bit ... annoying, but mostly reminiscent of the sandbox at kindergarten. Not all cases, but definitely some. About the only one where I agreed outright with the deletion was a fine post from a closet holocaust denier. That was one where both that post and the poster can fuck off and die IMO.In the most positive possible way of course.But for the rest, pffffrt, usually storm + tea container.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:24:14 am
content: Quote from: GeoffS on January 04, 2014, 03:46:59 pmJust wait until A Helene joins up. It's going to be a freak show.

author: cwalex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:24:54 am
content: I vote for an off topic category too. There are heaps of really talented people that contribute to this forum and it's the people here that make this place great! I like to read about other interesting things these people are doing/discussing too, doesn't necessarily have to be electronics related. I used to spend quite a bit of time on the AVR freaks forums and the off topic section had some interesting discussions. I don't see the problem with having off topic section here, if you don't want to read it or post in it then don't. What it is the draw back exactly?

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 03:58:43 am
content: cwwalex, we do have an off topic catagory, it's called general chat. Seriously, anything non EE related is just fine here. I don't think we need another "general chat category. I don't know that we need another EE category though, as I put in a previous post, I could go along with a metrology/test equipment category if there is enough interest in it.

author: A Hellene
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 06:16:39 am
content: Quote from: GK on January 05, 2014, 02:24:14 amThank you for yet one of your umpteenth uncalled personal attacks against my person. I always appreciate it when people have the guts to show their true face. I wonder, are you like this in your public life also, or do you dare to show off these qualities of your character behind the keyboard only?Please forward our congratulations to your dearest parents for the excellent job they have done with your upbringing!By the way, I believe that you will always be welcome to join in any internet discussions group, since there is always a need for people of the unquestionable personal qualities you occasionally use to demonstrate at these boards.-George

author: strangelovemd12
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 08:15:47 am
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on January 05, 2014, 03:58:43 amIt may be the de facto use, but General Chat isn't intended primarily for non EE topics. This is the category description:QuoteI think slightly tighter rules (EE related posts) would be good, but it would be nice if there was a straight "off topic" category for it to spill out into.Considering it again, I think the main advantage would be what I alluded to earlier. The "Rather than hijack this thread, I'll make an off-topic post," state of mind could keep other categories neat and orderly.Also having a laugh at everyone chiming in with "No off topic! Unless it is the non EE topic I enjoy, then it's fine."

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 08:28:37 am
content: Just a bit on the deniers, my mother is a survivor of one of those "holiday camps" run by uncle Joe. She never wants to see snow again.

author: cwalex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 10:38:43 am
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on January 05, 2014, 03:58:43 amBut we don't! Here is the description for the "General Chat" section:QuoteI still don't see what the problem with an off topic section is, if people want to talk about whatever random things interest them, news or religion or whatever then I say go for it. There is a great group of people here, lots of interesting topics to share that are not electronics related. If people don't want to read or talk about anything not electronics related then they can just avoid an off topic section of the forum. Easy.Is there actually a reason to not have an off topic section in the forum?

author: dfmischler
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 11:44:59 am
content: Quote from: GK on January 05, 2014, 08:42:27 amPerhaps the rest of us realize that if you don't feed the troll it will get hungry and go away. Just report the post and ask the mods to delete it. This is the forum equivalent ofshunning.Sometimestactical ignoringis best.

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 12:41:55 pm
content: Quote from: cwalex on January 05, 2014, 10:38:43 amYes: it lowers the S/N ratio of the forum with regard to its intended purpose.You may have noticed that off-topic threads tend to attract a disproportionate number of responses. Everyone has an opinion on politics, religion, conspiracy theories, how to organize the forum, whatever. And like the body part to which they are often compared, we tend to think everyone else's stinks - and therefore needs to be challenged.As long as it's not trivial to filter off-topic material from unread posts it's best kept to a minimum.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 01:31:03 pm
content: If you look at the Top Ten boards (I'm only showing the Top five), General Chat is ~twice the size of the next biggest board -General Chat102305Beginners57513Projects, Designs, and Technical Stuff52931Test Equipment47491Blog Specific24964According to the General Chat board description -QuoteIt seems that whoever wrote the description intended it to takemostlyother electronics topics that didn't fit well elsewhere, which it does do, in addition to theoccasionaloff-topic thread (that's what the description actually states).However, IMHO, if it's twice the size of the next biggest electronics board on an electronics forum, it needs to be divided down according to what those electronics topics are. I would hope that on an electronics board, the top boards would be purely electronics related - you don't want the top board to be off-topic material. If it was me, I'd investigate what electronics topics are being posted in the General discussion board, and create a couple of new boards to off-load that type of talk. Then, I'd make a Chit Chat board for off-topic stuff, i.e. no electronics topics allowed.So to summarize, if you want an off-topic board for a forum, make it off-topic only, and make a few boards for electronics content that is ending up in the off-topic board.(this is only my opinion I do not state it as fact or otherwise)

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:03:11 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on January 05, 2014, 01:48:51 pmI disagree - I just added some insight of my own.QuoteNot really. The only "rule" would be and is, to post topics in appropriate categories. That rule is still the only rule needed whether you have 5 or 50 boards.QuoteIt needing to be split is not a function of it being popular at all, it's a function of it containing too many of the wrong topics, as I explained above.

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:13:15 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 05, 2014, 02:03:11 pmI disagree that you just added some insight of your ownQuoteAs youopinedabove.IMNSHO the 'wrong' topics are currently manageable and constrained by the board's stated purpose. Doing as you suggest would give the new 'off-topic' board legitimacy and encourage it to grow without such constraints.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:16:27 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 05, 2014, 01:31:03 pmJust a reminder, that number does not represent the true General Chat section statistic, it was used to be located on the top position at the forum main page, until Dave moved it to bottom as it is now. There is an announcement thread for it if I'm not mistaken from Dave.At those days when it was positioned on the top of the forum, it was simply filled with almost everything by users who are lazy to post in the right sections. For example noob asking electronics, discussion/teardown for T&M stuff (dmm,scope etc), or MCU programming (eg: should be in Microcontroller), buy & sell and whole garbages and non related threads and posts that you can imagined were created in there.Imo, the current General Chat section which we're looking now is tons-tons better than it used to be before the move.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:17:34 pm
content: Quote from: rolycat on January 05, 2014, 02:13:15 pmExactly. you got it correct.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:19:18 pm
content: Quote from: BravoV on January 05, 2014, 02:16:27 pmMoving a board from one place to another doesn't change it's stats or what's in it.

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:26:25 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 05, 2014, 02:19:18 pmYour naive view on humanpsycologyis amusing.Tell that to the people that do website A/B testing and watch them giggle, smile politely and then continue with their profitable work.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:29:26 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 05, 2014, 02:19:18 pmJust checked your forum registration date, April 2013, not even a year, no wonder.

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:33:23 pm
content: A powerful argument against too many non-electronics-related threads is the extraordinary ability of certain individuals to miss the points being made while in pursuit of their own agenda. The S/N ratio then falls inexorably until the thread degenerates into point scoring and name-calling

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:37:10 pm
content: Quote from: mrflibble on January 05, 2014, 02:26:25 pmWhat I said is just factually correct. If I move a board from one place to another in a forum, and look at it's stats, they will not have changed from me doing that. I know how all this is done and I've done it many times. It just factually doesn't change the stats that have been calculated for the board by the system.

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:46:50 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 05, 2014, 02:37:10 pmWhat you said is just fatuously correct.QuoteWe all know how frightfully experienced you are at running your own forum. However, you have yet again missed the point, which is that the environment in which those statistics were accumulated has changed. They are therefore of little use in predicting the ongoing behaviour of the forum.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:51:35 pm
content: Quote from: rolycat on January 05, 2014, 02:46:50 pmI guess xrunner must be having a tough time when it comes to understand electronics notations for transitional matters such as "dV/dT" or similar.

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:51:47 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 05, 2014, 02:37:10 pmThank you.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:54:15 pm
content: And it remains, that what I said was factually correct.QuoteIt still remains that this board shows up as the most active board. Period. Whether or not it's activity was skewed from a move or not. The numbers exist. And, it's not that crazy of an idea that if you run an electronics forum, you do not want an effectively mixed bag board showing as your top board. You want electronics boards at the top.One way to fix it regardless of it's cause it to move topics out of it to other boards, so the off-topic stuff is not bumping it to the Top Ten list.This thread is about creating a non-electronics board. The other proponents of this need to be more proactive if they want to advance their cause.

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:58:13 pm
content: I have had enoughfor today. Off to do some electronics...

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 02:59:44 pm
content: Quote from: rolycat on January 05, 2014, 02:46:50 pmNaah, of course xrunner knows that. With a bit of luck he will tell us all about it in great detail in a moment. Or maybe he just likes his stats with a good bit of sampling bias, who knows?

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 03:00:45 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 05, 2014, 02:54:15 pmYou have argued your case masterfully. I am sure it will be valuable in deciding how to run this forum. Thank you.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 03:08:15 pm
content: Quote from: mrflibble on January 05, 2014, 02:59:44 pmJust try'in to help.

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 03:11:55 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 05, 2014, 03:08:15 pmOf course. And the value of your factually correct contributions to the discussion are out there for all to see. So it's all good.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 03:59:44 pm
content: As this whole forum is pretty much a free for all and pots are put all over the place with no-one really caring if they are in the correct place or not and no-one really doing any housekeeping or making sure that the forum actually works properly then I can't see how opening it up for everyone to start posting random gibberish in a specific place is going to help anything.

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 04:02:47 pm
content: Quote from: Lurch on January 05, 2014, 03:59:44 pm, almost ran out of breath reading.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 04:24:00 pm
content: Quote from: dr.diesel on January 05, 2014, 04:02:47 pmThe sign of a good rant.

author: rexxar
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 04:55:39 pm
content: I think an off-topic category would be nice, but I think every single thread would degrade into needless personal attacks and petty arguments. Pretty much like this one. If we were going to keep it clean, it'd be a lot more work for the mods.Although, that would be good for GeoffS; there'd be all sorts of posts there he could delete unnecessarily and feed back to the NSA

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 10:29:58 am
content: Quote from: rexxar on January 05, 2014, 04:55:39 pmNo need for action on my part, we have a live feed set up to the NSA mainframes.But on the topic of the NSA:HI Guys,While I find it rewarding to monitor subversive forums such as these,, a warm glow inside doesn't pay the rent!!There have been some problems with the last couple of cheques and this has screwed up my budgeting a bit (you'll know what that's like!)While I appreciate that monitoring the internet and bugging everyone's phone calls keeps you all busy, I'd appreciate it someone could have a chat with HR or payrollto sort this outt.Best RegardsGeoff , (your friendly Tasmanian agent)

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 10:52:37 am
content: In a slightly off topic post, i do think it would be nicer to bring the suggestions and news subforums out from under the blog specific forum, i feel they don't get as much notice as they should. In addition, i think there should be a board for stickies + announcements, and make it the top forum.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:53:42 pm
content: Quote from: dfmischler on January 05, 2014, 11:44:59 amPerhaps that insight into the mind of everyone else is a little presumptuous. This is a publicly open forum, and I have an issue (contempt) in general with the idea of seeking to sanitize it from behind the scenes. I'm certainly not going to resort to hitting the report button any time soon, for whatever reason, sorry. However your advice seems to have been heeded by a mysterious someone; my previous post from which you quote has since disappeared.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 01:08:26 pm
content: Quote from: GK on January 06, 2014, 12:53:42 pmSo instead of reporting a problem post, you'd rather complain about it publicly?Should someone else then report the post and it's deleted then your responses will no longer have a reference and make little sense.If you've chosen to quote the deleted post then the only reasonable course would be to also delete your post.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 01:55:03 pm
content: Quote from: GeoffS on January 06, 2014, 01:08:26 pmYawn. Should I feel it's worth responding, I'd rather reply to it as appropriate. However if my reply alone is censored, then I see cause to complain. I'm not interested in partaking in behind the scenes tittle-tattle to have anyone's posts deleted, but that doesn't mean I should care less if someone who posts a lot of egregious garbage subsequently has their garbage deleted.And please define a "problem post". Should we all start reporting posts that we have a problem with?

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 02:03:35 pm
content: A problem post is one that you have a problem with.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 05:37:31 pm
content: Quote from: GeoffS on January 06, 2014, 10:29:58 amYou should have given the postie a lot of those prepaid mail forward stickers to get them then. They are likely in a pile at your old address still.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 07:56:09 am
content: Quote from: GeoffS on January 06, 2014, 02:03:35 pmRight. I give up. See you later.