IGG somebody just invented a clothesline.Solar and windpowered eco clothes dryer - Page 1
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author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 02:19:44 pm
content: .

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 04:53:14 pm
content: No, hewantsto invent a clothesline and wants you to pay him to do it. He hasn't actually invented it yet.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 05:22:29 pm
content: QuoteOK.... I promise you, we're not all this retarded. I know how to use a clothesline...

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 05:33:31 pm
content: I also know how to wash clothes without using a washing machine, though using one does make it easier. Beats a big bucket and your feet.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 05:39:47 pm
content: Yeah, but drying is a lot easier. An electric/gas dryer is only marginally easier than sticking them out on a line to dry; I can't really see whatever this is having a significant enough advantage over a simple line to justify the cost.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 07:03:15 pm
content: Along with many other residents in the USA, I am not legally permitted to use a clothes line. The homeowner's association forbids it.

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 07:11:39 pm
content: Quote from: IanB on September 08, 2013, 07:03:15 pmSo use a solar and windpowered eco clothes dryer, problem solved.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 07:20:00 pm
content: Ugh. HOA...I live five miles deep into a forestRidiculous snobs. If your idea of benefiting your neighborhood is banning clotheslines and telling people how to cut their grass, you need to get a damn life.

author: MacAttak
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 08:47:51 pm
content: It's all about neighborhood property values. We don't even get to change the color of the paint on the exterior of our home, although we are still required to repaint it every 5 years. We aren't allowed to allow our home to fall into disrepair. We aren't even allowed to park in the street (it's a private street) overnight.In return, our home retains its sale value much better than other neighborhoods which don't enforce such rules. I also don't have to worry about asshole neighbors who decide to start fixing cars in their driveway and growing rusted refrigerators in the yard (this is also forbidden). It's a good trade-off IMO.But what's that got to do with another nutjob who's trying to scam money on IGG?

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 08:58:19 pm
content: You shouldn't get to tell the neighbors what they can and cannot do on their own property because you're worried some asshole won't want to pay as much for yours because the neighbor has a clothesline. It's not their fault people are tightwads. My idea of a good trade-off is "I get toownmy property, which means I can hang clothes to dry and paint my house whatever damn color I want. So can the neighbors, whether I like it or not." This ridiculous culture of making every single rule you can think of that doesn't personally affectyouneeds to end.Quote from: MacAttak on September 08, 2013, 08:47:51 pmBecause his idea is idiotic in a place where people can use clotheslines, but might make a shred of sense otherwise.(Yeah, it'sslightlyOT, but really, I don't imagine we could carry on a long discussion about this stupid IGG campaign. A clothesline is about the only thing I can imagine that fits his sparse description...)

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 09:00:56 pm
content: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drying_rackThe amount of energy waste in the US amazes me every now and then. Even if I also use the drying machine.

author: MacAttak
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 12:54:42 am
content: Quote from: c4757p on September 08, 2013, 08:58:19 pmBut an HOA isn't something that sneaks up on you after you buy the property. They are formed when the neighborhood is built. You know about it and all of the rules before buying. So if the rules bother a person, then they can just find a home in a different neighborhood with different rules. And one neighborhood HOA isn't able to impose rules on another neighborhood.I don't see why this arrangement would get anyone riled up?I happen to like the idea that some ass can't move in next door to me and do things that devalue the resale appraisal of my own home. Like the guy who moved in next door to me in my previous neighborhood, and decided to start rebuilding nasty old Fieros in his driveway, in addition to only mowing his lawn perhaps once or twice per summer.But in my current neighborhood, all of the grounds are professionally landscaped every week. Non-emergency automobile maintenance is prohibited. I don't have to worry about someone moving in, painting their house purple and gold, and installing an inflatable pool on the roof (yes, a friend of mine had this happen in his neighborhood). My property resale value is relatively stable - aside from the obvious recession effects. The "trade-off" is a HOA that has the authority to collect fees and fines, and the ability to place liens if necessary to collect them. But again - it is an "opt-in" system where the rules only apply to people who agree to them by buying property in the HOA-covered neighborhood.

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 12:57:50 am
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on September 08, 2013, 09:00:56 pmIt's not "energy waste", it's "energy used".Is energy in short supply, or something? Do we need to ration it only for things that the general public consider worthy pursuits for humanity?I use my clothes dryer a few times a week. I can wash my clothes which takes 30-40 minutes in my machine, and my dryer has the whole load clean within an hour after that. Very convenient. Plus, dried clothes are wrinkle free, nice to wear on a cool day after being dried, etc, etc.It's a convenience thing.Who here drives a multi-seater car but has no passenger more than 50% of the time? Isn't that just as much, or more, of a waste? But we do it because it's convenient and we like it.Ain't first world life great?

author: Harvs
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 01:38:31 am
content: How could he possibly invent something better than this gemhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hills_HoistAnd as anyone who was a teenager in Oz should be able to remember, it can double for a whole variety of excellent drinking games... Goon-a-fortune being one of the countries all time favorites.A shinning example here:http://youtu.be/vqFFyW01FXA

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 01:41:36 am
content: learn from animal how to dry cloth heh? i want to invent low noise good harmonic cable. i believe begging is another profitable hobby today.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 02:19:37 am
content: Quote from: MacAttak on September 09, 2013, 12:54:42 amI'm not riled up, I'm just extremely averse to living in such a place. You can have your HOA all you want, as long as I can still find a neighborhood without one...QuoteWhat!?So you can't change your oil? Whatidiotthought that was a good idea?

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 04:36:56 am
content: Wait wait wait wait... there are places with enclosed, private backyards, that have fences around them so they cannot be entered or seen into, that forbid clotheslines, and in the same manner, extended buildings attached to residences enclosed by walls for safety, security and privacy for storing motor vehicles that forbid motor vehicle maintenance?

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 04:41:33 am
content: Many of the snooty pens around me do not have fences around yards, just around a group of houses so they don't have to see the common folk across the road. They do have garages, though.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 04:46:43 am
content: Quote from: peter.mitchell on September 09, 2013, 04:36:56 amMaybe there are. But I think they are talking about American suburbia where it is about appearance and looking neat and great on the outside. Where they prohibit fences, because they look ugly and block the view to the shiny property with all the neatness around and where the garages are full of junk, leaving no room for a car.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 04:52:19 am
content: Most of them probably have never touched a wrench in their lives, so I suppose I can see why they're OK with giving up the right to maintain their own property. Crawling under your car and removing the oil plug doesn't involve money or gossip, so they don't know how to do it.

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 05:35:46 am
content: Quote from: c4757p on September 09, 2013, 02:19:37 amI live in an area with no HOA. I would never live where there is one. I think it seems to attract egotistical people who like to think they are much wealthier than they really are (no offense intented to Mac or anyone here, just been my experience with many HOA types), and/or who have too much time on their hands.In general, living in a wealthy neighborhood automatically solves this problem, because a rich guy probably isn't going to have 3 old fridges in his yard. Not to mention wealthy neighborhoods tend to have larger properties and you don't need to worry so much about your neighbor dragging you down.But I shudder at the idea of a wealthy neighbor not being allowed to pull his all original 67 Corvette with a 427 out into the driveway and let me ogle it while he changes the spark plugs.There is also the fact that it sort of paints people into a corner... unless you are wealthy to the point you'll never have to work again even through you spend like a drunken sailor in a Thai brothel, there's always the chance that hard economic times may befall you. And if they do, I can't imagine having it made harder by some snooty neighbors complaining that your car isn't up to snuff or that you save some $$ by maintaining it yourself, etc.

author: MacAttak
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 06:08:11 am
content: I wasn't talking about that kind of stuff. Besides - you can just as easily change your oil or spark plugs while parked in your garage as you can with it in a driveway. No, I was talking about things like rebuilding an engine block or doing body work.Perhaps it would make more sense if you actually understood the layout of the neighborhood instead of making assumptions about it. This isn't the far suburbs where everyone has several acres of land. This also isn't a neighborhood designed for young families. This neighborhood was specifically designed to cater to existing homeowners 50 years and up whose children have already left home ("empty nesters" is what they call them). Many people in that situation are looking to downsize their home because it sucks trying to maintain a huge empty house. They also prefer to not do their own landscape maintenance, and to have relatively quiet streets. And it is VERY important that the private streets not be blocked by parked cars in the event that an emergency vehicle (ambulance/firetruck) needs to get to a home.Here is an old photo of the neighborhood during an ice storm about 6 or 7 years ago (didn't have any more recent). Obviously the vegetation has filled in significantly since then. But as you can see, the rules about parking in the street make sense here (we have a service alleyway behind each row of homes, and some shared parking spaces in a central park area that cannot be seen here). It should also be obvious how someone who decides to paint their home an "off" color would cause damage to the values of nearby homes (they are close together and fit within a carefully planned design).

author: ElectroIrradiator
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 06:28:07 am
content: Are those street lamps, which illuminates anything but the street itself?So, home owners intended to be 50+, yet the buildings have two floors?

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 06:37:51 am
content: Quote from: MacAttak on September 09, 2013, 06:08:11 amI wasn't talking about your neighborhood specifically - sorry if it came across that way. I was just commenting on HOA's in general. I can understand that some people want a level of decor imposed on everyone, but for me personally I would never live like that. I have found that the sort of stuff HOA's are usually created in order to mitigate is stuff that generally only happens in lower-middle to lower class neighborhoods around here. There is a house near my work where the guy has - no lie - probably 20 or 30 old television sets in his front yard. Another looks like the yard has never - ever - been taken care of (weeds and vegetation 5-6 feet high). But where I live we've never really had a problem with it. There is always the redneck/bum type person in every neighborhood and in my case he lives just a couple of houses over. Has 5-6 cars in his front yard, only 2 of which he uses and the others haven't been started in years. But he's actually a really nice guy and I don't begrudge him living the way he wants. Doesn't really affect me, IMO.

author: MacAttak
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 02:09:05 pm
content: Quote from: ElectroIrradiator on September 09, 2013, 06:28:07 amThe tall ones are street lamps, yes. They are highly inefficient but get the job done. The shorter ones in front of each house are decorative gas lamps. Yes, we burn a flame 24/7/365. Nothing like expending fossil fuels for no good reason. Most people in this part of the South don't believe in global climate change - heck half of my neighbors believe that oil is continuously replenished through natural processes and wells will never run dryI wish I were making that upThere are four floorplans, three have "Master on Main".

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2013, 02:19:05 pm
content: Yeah, thankfully nobody really took offense, allow me to clarify...I was tired as hell last night and started ranting about neighborhoods near me. Mac, I don't mean to imply that you're anything like the people I was talking about. Most of the area around me ranges from poor to lower middle-class - but there are one or two high-profile employers who pay many of their employeeswaymore than the average wages in the area, and a significant portion of those people areverystuck-up and snooty. I don't know you and have no reason to believe you are like that.