FS: BRAND NEW Keysight(Agilent) MSOX3104T 1GHz Mixed-Signal Oscilloscope - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: saintest
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 09:18:51 pm
content: I have this scope from Keysight Technologies that I am looking to sell. Its a 1GHz scope with 4 analog and 16 digital channels.It isBRAND NEW,, and contains all the following items:Factory 3-year warranty (90 days for unserialized accessories such as passive probes)Certificate of calibration, 3-year calibration intervalSecure eraseOne N2843A 500 MHz 10:1 attenuation passive probe per channel (4 total)One N2756A 16 digital channel MSO cableMulti-language interface and help: English, Chinese (simplified), Chinese (traditional), Czech, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Polish, Thai, TurkishDocumentation CD containing localized user’s guide, service guide, and programmer’s manualLocalized power cord and overlay.I am looking for $13,500, but am open to negotiationHere is a link to the scopehttp://www.keysight.com/de/pdx-x202189-pn-MSOX3104T/mixed-signal-oscilloscope-1-ghz-4-analog-plus-16-digital-channels?cc=AT&lc=ger&state=0And here are some photos I uploaded. *note, I only powered it on once to prove its in working condition*http://imgur.com/a/5r5klEDIT:Here is the systems info showing the licenses included on the device.Also note the device does not include a lan/vga or GPIB module installed.

author: RiverTown
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 09:25:55 pm
content: I think weall knowcan guess from where this scope is coming from.Forum rage alert

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 09:33:50 pm
content: Yup. I bid $100.Note: It is technically used equipment now.

author: kmel
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 09:46:21 pm
content: Quote from: RiverTown on April 28, 2016, 09:25:55 pmWhy not?If you already have a good Keysight scope, why not sell your winning to an EEVblog member for a special price?I don't say that $13500 is special!

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 09:48:49 pm
content: Quote from: bitseeker on April 28, 2016, 09:33:50 pmI'll push you up and bid $110.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 09:51:22 pm
content: I'd also specify which options are installed. I guess the MSO option is there but how about decoding and so on.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 10:01:03 pm
content: Yes, good idea to list the included software options.$120

author: saintest
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 11:12:02 pm
content: How would I be able to check which options are installed on the device?

author: saintest
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 11:20:06 pm
content: But if I were to guess, I would think it would have nothing else included, just a base model.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 11:22:03 pm
content: Quote from: saintest on April 28, 2016, 11:12:02 pmTurn it on and take a picture of the system information screen.

author: saintest
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 28, 2016, 11:55:43 pm
content: I have edited my initial post with the updated information.

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 12:02:19 am
content: Quote from: saintest on April 28, 2016, 09:18:51 pmIll pay full $13,500 twd

author: saintest
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 12:15:01 am
content: Sent you a message!

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 12:23:46 am
content: Quote from: saintest on April 29, 2016, 12:15:01 amWas supposed to be a (poor) joketwd = taiwan new dollar -> $13500 twd = $418.11 usd... but if you do want to sell for $13500 twd, let me know asap

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 12:29:52 am
content: Raising my bid to $500 (since TW$13500 = US$418.11)

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 12:32:35 am
content: Quote from: bitseeker on April 29, 2016, 12:29:52 amAt this rate it will take forever.....$550 american

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 12:35:08 am
content: Well, I'm out.Was thinking of $500 - shipping included.

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 12:42:28 am
content: I have the feeling anyone with over 10K to burn for a 'scope, wouldA) have bought one alreadyB) would spend less and buy usedC) may not be reading this threadAlthough my $550 (shipping extra) still stands, I see an Ebay listing in the scope's future ...

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 01:06:11 am
content: It has only been up for 5 hours. But I think the asking price is too high. You can pick one up new, unopened, from a legit dealer for near the same price. Or a -DEMO unit for around 12k, also from legit dealer.

author: saintest
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 01:28:48 am
content: Yeah I wouldnt be surprised, but with such a niche device I dont even know where to go to find a buyer. Also, what would a good asking price for this be then?

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 01:31:28 am
content: I don't know what the correct price would be (but I think being near a dealer price asking a bit too much)Brumby setup a poll for you, it might helphttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/how-much-would-you-pay-re-fs-brand-new-keysight(agilent)-msox3104t/msg929411/?topicseen#msg929411

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 01:31:52 am
content: Quote from: RiverTown on April 28, 2016, 09:25:55 pmI don't see a problem with selling a high end scope you won. It's more scope than most people need, and see the other thread on whether or not you'd sell a $250k Porsche if you won it.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 01:34:29 am
content: Quote from: saintest on April 29, 2016, 01:28:48 amIt's going to be hard, even at say half retail price, the buyers with such cash to throw around would be limited.Although I sold a $15k Audio Precision test set on ebay once on my first listing (they obviously had a watch alert)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 01:35:51 am
content: Quote from: ChunkyPastaSauce on April 29, 2016, 01:06:11 amI suspect this one might have to go for $10k or less.

author: saintest
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 01:55:28 am
content: Thanks! Any ideas as to where I can find a buyer?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 02:14:14 am
content: The universal question:Quote from: saintest on April 29, 2016, 01:55:28 am

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 04:14:23 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 29, 2016, 01:31:52 amIt's not any more of a problem than announcing you are putting up your newborn up for adoption in a fertility forum....The thing with the Porsche, which I would probably keep for at least 6 months before selling it so I can get two used ones in different colors, is that a free oscilloscope costs nothing to keep. No gas, no insurance, no worring about it getting dinged up at the parking lot or getting car jacked. It's like a never ending tub of icecream. No matter how much you eat, there is always more.Most entered the scope contest to win a keeper. And those people feel sad and wierd and funny about it.I kinda missed the whole contest thing, I didn't enter. But I know had I won one, it would be on the bench, or next to my side of the bed or on the breakfast table for the first few weeksat least!..and I would feel sad, wierd, and funny reading about someone trying to unload theirs...BTW there was a new in box on ebay for 7K and it didn't sell (not through Ebay at least).

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 04:34:31 am
content: Quote from: DimitriP on April 29, 2016, 04:14:23 amMin bid was set a 7,000 and was up for 10 days, no one put money on it.There was another mso3104t used but rated as flawless condition (pictures looked like it, with all manuals papers, probes etc), with following options "ALL,MSO*,MEMMAX*,EMBD*,AUTO*,FLEX*,PWR*,COMP*,SGM*,MASK&,AUDIO*,DIS*,EDK*,WAVEGEN*,AERO*,VID*,ADVMATCH*,DVMCTR*,RML* & SENSOR"The seller accepted an offer below $6,700.00 for it (ebay hides actual price)

author: continuo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 05:05:26 am
content: 60% of the MRSP would be my guess. Minus the US taxmadness he has to pay as the winner. It's just not worth it, imho. I would feel really really really bad to give away such a nice piece of equipment for such a ridiculous low profit

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 05:16:55 am
content: Quote from: continuo on April 29, 2016, 05:05:26 amStick it up with $10k or something on ebay and just leave it there, doesn't cost you anything, see if you get a bite.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 05:19:26 am
content: That's the thing ... with only one item to sell, you only have to find one buyer that will pay it.

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 06:11:00 am
content: for $13000 you can get a premium used msox4104 at keysight ebay store ....I agree $7000 is already too high for this msox3104t "not used" ( but not new)

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 07:20:02 am
content: Since that $6700 sold below asking, $5000-6000 would probably be a good price to move it (though outside my budget). But, like Dave said, it doesn't cost you anything to put up a listing at $10k and see what happens. Then, decide how much you really need to get for it and still be worthwhile.Ask yourself, would you rather have a $16k scope sitting around for who knows how long, $10k some months from now, or $5000 in a couple of weeks?

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 08:25:46 am
content: I bought a MSO-X3104 new from the keysight ebay store a couple years ago and paid much much less.So much less than MSRP, that I was surprised.Realistically, I think you can expect about half of your asking price, if you want to sell it in an short time frame.

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 08:42:00 am
content: it's still a shame for all those people here that participated in the contest only to re sell this $$$ but too complicated thing ASAPcompared to all forum users here hopping to have a very good scope on their bench,not counting all these not able to participate because their country was not allowed to ...

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 08:48:57 am
content: I think If I was trying to sell it and didn't need the money right away, I'd do what Dave is suggesting. Put it up $9999.99 and let it sit. The only thing I could see against it would be the warranty ticking away a bit or if keysight is near a scope refresh.

author: MadTux
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 09:56:36 am
content: Quite honestly, I would do the same.1GHz scope with only 4M of memory isn't worth $13.5k, at least for me.Any old TDS7000 is better than this in every aspect and only costs 20%, so you could buy 5 of them if you sell it. Even the cheapest Rigol has more memory. High end analog Teks have similar bandwith and are far more fixable. If you fry it, you loose $13.5k, whereas if you fry a 7A29, you loose like 100$.

author: RiverTown
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 11:56:33 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 29, 2016, 01:31:52 amHi, Dave..I don't see a problem with selling a high end scope you won, and spending a part of money on some other test equipment or cheaper scope. We all can agree that 1 GHz bandwidth scope is niche product with high price, and most of people don't need so high bandwith. So there is great chance that they will sell it, and buy something that better suit their needs.But I see problem if a winner already have similar scope (so he really don't need another similar product), but he had entered just to resell the prize if he wins. My opinion is that he shouldn't have entered competition on the first place because he don't need a scope, nor a better scope.Other type of contestants that I have problem with are the ones who don't have any interest in electronics whatsoever. They aren't EEs or hobbyists, they have just heard about competition in which they can win high value prize, that can be sold for a profit. They don't have a clue about the device itself, or about its features, and usage. OP could easily be described type of winner, because he knows just a basic things about scope (brochure specifications). He didn't even know how to check which software options he has installed, and of course ad is listed just a day after he recieved the prize.Ok, I agree this is more story of moral and etc. But for me it still leaves bitter taste in my mouth, and doesn't sound right.

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 12:02:31 pm
content: Feels a bit wrong to win and sell it but I will admit that if I'd won then I'd probably be doing the same thing to fund the purchase of a wider range of second hand test gear that's more suited to my needs.That 'scope is way too much 'scope for my needs so it'd buy me a whole heap of gear that's far more useful to me.Right at the moment I'm trying to figure out what I can sell and how much overtime I'll have to work to buy myself a halfway decent SA so all power to the winner if he's got a better use for the cash.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 01:16:17 pm
content: Quote from: RiverTown on April 29, 2016, 11:56:33 amJust look at it from the bright side: a chance to buy a scope for much less than the original price.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 01:18:36 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on April 29, 2016, 01:16:17 pmDo you mean it's like a 'halfway house' opportunity for those who wanted to win a Keysight scope...?

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 02:03:05 pm
content: Quote from: RiverTown on April 29, 2016, 11:56:33 amI used to frequent some of the deals sites (slickdeals, etc) where discounts or sales are often announced. many people were disgusted by the so-called 'flippers' who ONLY came to buy and resell at a profit. one of the reasons it pisses people off (on those sites) is that there may be a limited amount of some item (clearance) and if some flipper comes in just to scoop them all up and resell on ebay, it denies the people who really did want the item the chance to get it.some people feel a sense of fairness and community. others see the world as theirs to do whatever they want in.I ended up leaving those deals sites since I can't really stomach the flipper mentality and it seems that most of those sites have been overrun by resales vultures.not saying this is anything like that, but some vetting of entrants might have been a good idea, to try to ensure that the prize would truly be appreciated and valued (and USED!) by the recipient.

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 02:11:48 pm
content: Quote from: bitseeker on April 29, 2016, 07:20:02 amIt sold for $5000.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 02:31:04 pm
content: Quote from: linux-works on April 29, 2016, 02:03:05 pmIf you read the rules of Keysight's contest then you'll read Keysight expects the winners to create a video showing how they use their oscilloscope. That is kinda hard to do without the scope. But then again: the money obtained from selling the scope could be put towards more pressing financial matters and help people out a lot.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 05:07:08 pm
content: Quote from: edavid on April 29, 2016, 02:11:48 pmHa! I should've sold it for him and gotten a 10% commission.

author: Iwanushka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 05:20:06 pm
content: What the heck 3500 american for the scope including shipping, offer ends in 24h

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 05:33:26 pm
content: After taxes and time spent, the financial gain seems to be modest at best. I am guessing the OP was counting on a $10k gain. Enter contests for cars, houses, or cash if that is the goal.Sent from my horrible mobile....

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 06:21:27 pm
content: Coincidentally, a used"Buy it Now" for $8.7kfrom the land of the fruit company... (no relationship with the seller)(edit) fixed the link... Duh!

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 06:25:26 pm
content: BTW. I got an email from Keysight today offering 30% off the list price, if you trade in your (any) old scope.

author: RiverTown
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 06:25:59 pm
content: Quote from: rsjsouza on April 29, 2016, 06:21:27 pmWorking link:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Agilent-MSOX3104A-1-GHz-4-Analog-16-Digital-Ch-Mixed-Signals-Oscilloscope-/251745488273BTW. This is an older scope, still branded as Agilent

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 08:02:04 pm
content: Quote from: Towger on April 29, 2016, 06:25:26 pmIt is their official trade-in program. Google for "Keysight trade-in program". Not really"any", see details there. Still, if to work directly with the local Keysight, perhaps can get a better deal.

author: saintest
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 29, 2016, 10:40:24 pm
content: Hello, thanks for all the replies. I got my seller limit on ebay raised so I may list it there.To answer a few(maybe unasked) questions..When I entered this contest I did so on a whim, and I didnt think they would give away such an expensive model. I was thinking I would receive a <5k model...my fault for not actually looking into the model.I am a full-time student working minimum wage and theres no way I could afford the ~$3500 in taxes coming my way...but I thought I could sell it to someone who would use it.If all else fails, I would guess the distributor would take it back?

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 03:28:13 am
content: If you think you might have to do a return, definitely contact the distributor to see how long you have. You might also want to ask a tax pro about it, there are probably time limits, otherwise people would transfer assets at beginning of the year and then transfer back near the end (or done using it) to have zero tax even though they substantially had the asset (tax evasion).

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 04:09:06 am
content: Quote from: saintest on April 29, 2016, 10:40:24 pmYou better sell it if anything over $3500 gets you a profit!

author: eeadata
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 05:15:33 am
content: He is free to sell the scope at any price . Stop blaming him. Advice him but not as"You better sell it if anything over $3500 gets you a profit!". it is hilarious.What options are unlocked is a big price difference in this item.

author: continuo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 08:20:36 am
content: Quote from: saintest on April 29, 2016, 10:40:24 pmAnd Keysight didn't offer you to ship a lesser model because of the well known tax problem on the grand prize? Nice story, bro. You don't have to make something up here, it is your scope and you have every right to do whatever you want with it. You could even BBQ it if you like

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 09:52:33 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 29, 2016, 01:31:52 amA MSOX3104T is a high end scope?But I agree, I can't see what's wrong in selling an item won in a sweepstake. It's his property now and he can do whatever he wants with it. He shouldn't need to justify.Quote from: saintest on April 28, 2016, 09:18:51 pmForget it, chances you'll get anything even close to that will be pretty much nil. Don't focus on the RRP, it is meaningless as these scopes don't sell at RRP, they usually sell at much lower prices (30% isn't rare). And that is from Keysight or a good reseller and not from a private individual.I'd set the price to somewhere in the $7k o $8k region, which is much more realistic.Quote from: RiverTown on April 29, 2016, 06:25:59 pmYes, but this is *asking price*, not the price sold. He may want to get $8k for that scope but he's unlikely to get it.A better measure is the price scopes have actually sold for. Here's a Keysight DSOX3104T which sold for $6700:www.ebay.com/itm/Agilent-Keysight-MSO-X3104T-4-Analog-16-dig-channel-Mixed-Signal-Oscilloscope-/322037136262Also, Keysight themselves offers a MSOX4104A for $9768:www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Keysight-Used-MSOX4104A-Oscilloscope-1-GHz-4-16-Channel-Agilent-MSOX4104A-/182006497276Comes with 60 days warranty only but an extension to 3yrs should cost around $500 only (or might even be negotiated in for the asking price!)I'd say $8k for that new MSOX3104T is probably more reasonable and more likely to sell.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 10:40:51 am
content: Quote from: eeadata on April 30, 2016, 05:15:33 amSo he should send it back then and make nothing at all?Profit is profit even if it is just $100. Ofcourse he should sell it at a higher price but asking close to the retail value is not going to help sales. His markets are hobbyists with money and small one-man-band companies. Keysight will support and honor the warranty for the next owner so there is very little risk there.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 10:47:52 am
content: Quote from: Wuerstchenhund on April 30, 2016, 09:52:33 amI don't think this will be reality, probably more like$6k:Although, these are very nice scopes, their price drops like free fall.http://www.ebay.com/itm/Agilent-Keysight-MSO-X3104T-4-Analog-16-dig-channel-Mixed-Signal-Oscilloscope-/322037136262?hash=item4afae8bb86:g:DHoAAOSwZQxW41vX

author: diyaudio
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 11:21:57 am
content: Quote from: saintest on April 28, 2016, 09:18:51 pm

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 11:25:04 am
content: No decoding options on a scope with MSO?

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 10:28:47 pm
content: Im just confused, i ask my self, what was the whole purpose of this contest really? I cant tell if Keysight is any better or worse after this... what did they gain really?!

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2016, 11:09:59 pm
content: Quote from: MT on May 01, 2016, 10:28:47 pmTLDR alert!Ok..lets break this down:A) Purpose of the contest.B) Is KT better or worse off after this?C) What did they gain really?/rant onA) Purpose of the contest.Best case scenario, a bunch of scopes are gathering dust, maybe new ones are about to be instroduced, getting rid of them buys a) good will and b) the accountants have some magic pixie dust to play with come tax time. But mostly aWorse case scenario: xyz person either on their own or after playing golf with a marketing buddy got approached and convinced that such a contest is a great way to set the social media on fire with KeysighT's name. "Everyone is on social media" , "tremendous exposure", "will make keysight a houshold name". And this campaign, or even worse this 5 year contract campaign, will only cost the low low price of <insert a tremendous amount here>. The marketing company makes a couple of bucks, the decision maker gets a trip to Paris with significant other, the company gets exposure and a few people get a few free scopes.B) Hard to tell exactly. It depends on what the original goals were and whether they were met or notC) Name recognition/ good will exposure vs dollars spent is hard to determine/rant offUnless emails get leaked, we'll never know for sure other than the official company line which is may very well be exactly, 100% true and the only reason this happened. But I've been wrong beforeNo matter what the motivation /reason, we know that it has worked out very well for some, and not so great for others...."Be careful what you wish for.." is true once more.Something happened and from all the people that participated freely and without coersion, some/most benefited.In the end maybe that's all that matters.

author: uncle_bob
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 02, 2016, 12:03:00 am
content: Quote from: saintest on April 29, 2016, 01:55:28 amHiWell that's where advertising comes in. There's also sorting through the infinite number of people who would love to have the scope without paying for it. On the flip side there is proving to a legit buyer that they actually *are* going to get the scope if money changes hands. Much of this is "normal business" for an instrument dealer. It's a real PIA for an individual. Selling it to a dealer *is* an option. Best guess, he'll give you about $3K for it. He'll turn around and list it for $9K, but expect to sell it for $6K.Bob

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 02, 2016, 01:18:59 am
content: How fast are you hoping to flip it? If you are patient - just plant it on eBay for $8k 'Buy It Now' and wait until there are none or few others listed - maybe it will sell. If you need it now, list it at $6k and it will go much quicker.This is an obscure and specialized device with very few potential buyers. You have to be very good at selling scopes, or very patient, or make the price very low.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 02, 2016, 08:43:22 am
content: Put it on ebay with a $1 starting price and set a minimum value of something like $6kThis way you get a much higher interest in the item and probably more exposure.The price you get at the end, is the real street value of this item.And, if it does not sell for your minimum price, you can still relist it for "Buy Now"

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 02, 2016, 01:17:58 pm
content: Quote from: DimitriP on May 01, 2016, 11:09:59 pmWell that was the "obvious" things ,i pondered more over the contest consept as in the "reputational gain" Keysight would have gotten if they instead would have (as i mentioned very early in this contest) give'n away 20 100Mhz scopes instead of 1 or 2 1Ghz scopes for few can afford to pay the taxes (who want to pay taxes at all for a gift anyway). Imagine Santa dropping down your sot'y chimney asking your kids to pay taxes for the gifts he delivers! Hideous thought! Christmas would have lost all meaning, Santas (read Keysight) reputation down the drain, noone are happy, etc etc. Christmas as a concept all ruined!I sugest to the seller here to do the opposite, set out the lowest dollar he wants and then let people bid upwards. Bidding contest!

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 02, 2016, 02:47:44 pm
content: $3501.

author: uncle_bob
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2016, 01:04:39 am
content: Quote from: mrpackethead on May 02, 2016, 02:47:44 pmHiI'd say that's a rational price.Bob

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 03, 2016, 04:54:02 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on May 02, 2016, 02:40:35 pmYou don't buy warranty, you buy a "repair agreement" instead, which is pretty much the same as warranty other than that it is for instruments for which warranty has already expired.It's also generally a lot cheaper than a warranty extension, but $500 is probably a but too low (I guess for the MSOX4104A it will be closer to $800 for three years coverage).

author: engineer_in_shorts
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 03, 2016, 07:21:05 pm
content: Quote from: saintest on April 29, 2016, 01:55:28 amYes, the people who know the buyers for this kind of equipment are the agents and distributors of 'scopes.Idea 1. Search keysight for agents and call them all up, let them know the situation. They probably have around 25% distribution agreement from Keysight, so they may want somewhere around this mark.Idea 2. Look up agents for keysight competitors, if they have a customer who is deciding on a keysight scope against there own product this will give them a chance to sell either... a bit of a long shot put at the end of the day these companies want to shift expensive boxes and take 20 or 30%. They understand sales time can be long and need to stick around with the right customers.Idea 3. Play sales rep for the day. Phone up research departments, see if need a 'scope.Ide 4. Hit up linked in and find some sales reps, see if they can arrange something privately

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 03, 2016, 08:22:16 pm
content: Quote from: uncle_bob on May 03, 2016, 01:04:39 amIm helping the guy out of his tax problem..

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 03, 2016, 10:23:36 pm
content: Quote from: engineer_in_shorts on May 03, 2016, 07:21:05 pmUsed equipment dealersRental places

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 04, 2016, 08:24:00 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on April 30, 2016, 11:25:04 amIt is a clever strategy of Keysight: they know, the winner (or somebody else if beeing sold) will definately invest $2750 for purchasing the Appbundle. Thus by giving the scope to the winner, they know they will at least receive a payback of $2750. And this it what makes it difficult to sell the scope for a decent price: the potential buyer knows, he would have to add another $2750 on top to get a really useful scope.

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 04, 2016, 10:45:57 am
content: that's what I was telling to myself recently.if I would be a lucky winner (which I was not) I would have asked for getting the lower model msox3054 but with all software insidebetter scope IMHO than an empty msox3104 ...

author: TheSteve
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 09, 2016, 10:58:06 pm
content: Well one was listed on ebay for 10K BIN or a starting bid of 7.5K and after a week it didn't sell. Free shipping was included. So there is no lineup to get one at 7.5K - in the short term anyway.

author: Mandira_Khan
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 01, 2019, 09:54:34 am
content: Hi, I wanted a mixed signal oscilloscope for rent in India ASAP. It should have 4 analog and 16 digital channels with bandwidth not less than 100 MHz.