Orbo Evaluation and Development System ( steorn "free" energy stuff)  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Polossatik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 02:36:53 pm
content: Steorn claims to use "time-variant magnetic interaction leads" to result in "a non-conservative energy result"...And they now even have "solid state" generators: "Solid State Orbo gains energy via control of a material's inductance and domain rotation. As with all previous implementations of Orbo, these material permeability effects are fundamental to the production of an energy gain. "They now have a SDK for 399 eurohttp://www.steorn.com/skdb/oedu/Just mentioning f there here is anyone who ordered it or knows people here who believe in Ufo technology and have this stuffTo much mambo jumbo pseudo science speak on that site to have an idea what they claim to have working, so if someone can translate, please doSource:engadgetI found thathackadayalso had a entry on the Steorn Orbo stuff, with some nice comments

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 02:55:37 pm
content: all I can say is that there is a sucker born every minute. people hate taking the time to acquire knowledge and in lacking knowledge they get fooled easily - more fool them.UFO's most certainly exist but I doubt their technology is anything to do with pseudo science and free energy machines !

author: Polossatik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 03:13:08 pm
content: According toWikipedia"Sean McCarthy said that he expected at least 5000 people to pay the €419 licence fee during 2010"so that's around 2 million € , not bad as an incomeEdit: They even found some chaps who claim to be in electronics / physics to "spread the message"no info of course whatsoever how this stuff is tested, only a nice 5 sec shot of a scope with some wave form

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 03:17:29 pm
content: nope not bad, frankly i can't see how people can be so stupid to fall for these things but who cares, it's not my money. Personally I'd like to see more control over these things, it would not take an independent lab more than a couple of hours to put these guys backs to the wall and give then a good thrashing !

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 04:05:16 pm
content: Part of the licence agreement probably states that testing in an independent lab would invalidate the licence.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 04:39:16 pm
content: i'm building one! the non solid state one, as it is not established yet.listen carefully!Solid State Orbo is the latest physical implementation of the Orbo technology platform. Solid State has numerous advantages over previous implementations. The fact that the Solid State version has no moving parts lowers the costs and reduces the time-frame for developers wishing to replicate the core effect.Testing is greatly simplified too; the only test equipment required is a simple digital oscilloscope.Solid State Orbo gains energy via control of a material's inductance and domain rotation. As with all previous implementations of Orbo, these material permeability effects are fundamental to the production of an energy gain.AlthoughSolid State Orbo is in the early stages of development, rapid progress is being made with regards to optimisation. For this reason, it forms the basis of the Steorn Knowledge Development Base.so guess we still in testing stage... (trial and error) i think.

author: JohnS_AZ
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 04:42:23 pm
content: Well this is just silly... -EVERYONE- knows that you can't get these energy machines to work unless you buy an oscilloscope by clicking the link on Dave's homepage!!!!!(if ya' can't beat'em, join'em...)

author: the_raptor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 05:22:49 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on October 31, 2010, 03:17:29 pmHave you met people?Honestly I am surprised we ever developed past hitting things with rocks. Stuff like this is the ultimate condemnation of the quality of general education.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 05:37:24 pm
content: There are many amazing things that can be achieved, your level of education often dictates the level of amazement, unfortunately some people that have not bothered to gain any grounding knowledge get taken in by pseudo science. I know a person that thinks there is some magical solution if only we could find it but then rejects any form of alternative energy. He particularly hates wind turbines, he simply does not understand that there is power in the wind, even when I pointed out just how heavy the blades are yet they be turned by wind.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 06:10:56 pm
content: Quote from: the_raptor on October 31, 2010, 05:22:49 pmWould you believe them if they said they could magic a physical object out of empty space?If not then why would you believe it's possible to create energy from nothing?People who think this are ignorant about what energy really is. Producing free energy is just as believable as producing mass from nothing, ever heard of the famous equation by one of the most brilliant scientists of the 20th century? E = mc2No doubt you have, but do you actually know what it really means?

author: the_raptor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 07:23:24 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on October 31, 2010, 06:10:56 pmYou aren't parsing my post correctly. I am making fun of people for falling for this stuff.And generally these guys aren't talking about energy from nothing, just pulling in "zero point energy" (even if you could harvest this energy it would probably have very bad consequences). They are normally scientifically mis-educated enough to have some basis for their claim (ie even "empty" space has energy in it), just not educated enough to see the flaws any physicist could.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 08:04:07 pm
content: Sorry, yes, I was worried for a second.

author: Nermash
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 09:13:06 pm
content: Man, I would pay to watch Dave's review of this crap

author: cybergibbons
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 11:31:04 pm
content: I'd pitch in €20 to see Dave order and test one. Go on Dave, set up some way of accepting donations!I wonder if their lawyers can touch you in Aus?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2010, 11:57:03 pm
content: Looks like these crooks have changed their business model from conning big investors to screwing over gullible members of the public who are too stupid to know better. Just check out their incomprehensible pages of license agreement.Funny how their 'free energy' board seems to have a couple of battery holders on it...

author: Polossatik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2010, 06:57:04 pm
content: Quote from: cybergibbons on October 31, 2010, 11:31:04 pmI'm also in! Eevblog ep 131: get your energy for free (*) , proudly sponsored by the EevBlogCommunity(*) 399 Euro application fee applies

author: sonicj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2010, 11:40:22 pm
content: Hitler reacts to Steorn's demo and launch of Orbo!

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 05, 2010, 09:25:28 am
content: to be honest I'm getting fed up with that clip it's been reused so many times it's no longer funny or innovative (a bit like orb) the subtitles are up and gone so fast it's hard to follow

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2010, 10:09:29 am
content: Quote from: sonicj on November 04, 2010, 11:40:22 pmmaybe you should keep your mouth shut regarding this, there a lot more "anti-free energy" than "pro-free energy" people, you can either leave the field, or just DIY quietly.Cheersso far as the OP provided link is concerned, its still in testing and erroring stage, and you need an "oscilloscope to do that", and you need that 399 pound to give away. so, whatever the consequences is... i'm with you