Would the dude actually die in Avatar 2 from that shoulder bullet wound? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Deactivated-1
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2023, 05:41:22 pm
content: One of the blue guys got shot in the shoulder, and the bullet passed trough the other side, after around 15 or so minutes he dies...That seemed like a stretch, I mean fictional species aside, would that actually kill you in 15 minutes? he also had to swim about 100 meters to shore so would the water do some harm?

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2023, 06:41:10 pm
content: If it hit the subclavian artery, death is certainly likely if not treated (attachment).EDIT: Silly me. Avatars are fictional. They can't be killed, unless it fits the script. Then. even a small scratch to a vulnerable part will kill them.

author: AndyBeez
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2023, 07:20:09 pm
content: So there is a computer generated world without in-app purchases? At least spend some of your Cameron Coin on a bullet proof force field and a laser canon. And flesh repairing nanobots. Or just better scriptwriters maybe?

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2023, 08:05:53 pm
content: We attended a performance of the opera "Werther" by Jules Massenet (based on Goethe's novel "The Sorrows of Young Werther"), where the hero kills himself with a shot to the chest from a dueling pistol.Thereafter, I asked the medical students in my circle of friends how long would a tenor be able to sing with such a wound before expiring (presumably, a 0.50 caliber ball).Some of them had exposure to the ER at the University of Chicago hospital, the main trauma center for the South Side, and they all thought it would not be long.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2023, 08:06:02 pm
content: It's fantasy beyond anything I have ever dreamed. Don't worry about it.

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2023, 02:41:02 am
content: Exactly. A: It's Sci-Fi. B: It's also Hollywood, and I wouldn't believe anything that they tell me. C: Goto B:

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2023, 09:50:17 am
content: Quote from: ELS122 on August 08, 2023, 08:43:23 amThe shot hit the internal RIFA capacitor, which savedhimit in the short term.However, for very good reasons, RIFA capacitors are called "delayed action smoke grenades". That grenade detonating would cause severe internal burn injuries, which would killhimit.Alternatively, where is theInternet Oraclewhen you need it?

author: Wallace Gasiewicz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2023, 05:29:03 pm
content: jpanhalt is right. It amazes me to see wounds in the upper chest relegated to the "just a shoulder wound" category when indeed these wounds can hit not only the big artery or subclavian vein but can hit the nerves around it, the Brachial Plexus, resulting in partial or worse paralysis of the associated limb. GSW to the chest notoriously do not bleed much externally, mostly internally.However in fiction as in TV or avatars anything goes.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2023, 07:50:00 pm
content: I assume its a special bullet coated with naqada or whatever they had there.you would think its some kind of caseless semi frangible but also armor piercing explosive superalloy meta material self adjusting poison bullet.The gun might look from its 1980's but weyland put the R&D money into the projectileI generally assume if they can leave the solar system and have space aircraft carriers, bullet technology also advanced appropriately. You can afford the $500 bullets when your enigneers make 6.50 an hour and live in low income housing made out of rejected excavator roof panels.Anything in that universe cluster needs to be thought of as a extreme outsourcing globalization zero regulation corpocracy with extreme competition between department heads to deliver costs so low with so little regulation that only their imagination is the limit.I imagine those bullets were designed to kill not only a humanoid but also a space horse and even a space rhinosaurus.And also all of james camerons work probobly have killer robots in mind, if its Alien like, then synthetics like replicants and combat droids not seen in the motion pictures, so the bullets have some tricks up their sleeves

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2023, 08:34:28 am
content: The Black Knight from Monty Python comes to mind, a flesh wound might not kill youIt's probably a matter of luck, hit arteries - you die. Hit flesh or bone - you don't die (at least not within minutes).

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2023, 01:27:01 am
content: jpanhalt identified the issue; shots to areas which are otherwise non-vital may cut arteries causing exsanguination (critical loss of blood) in short order. This is why there is no such thing as a non-lethal limb shot to disable someone; there is always a good chance of cutting an artery.Of course this is just Hollywood; the wound was fatal because of plot.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2023, 04:13:55 am
content: It is like in Cameron's Titanic movie- people on Internet were saying there was enough space on that piece of wood to fit 2 people. Cameron said it did not matter, DiCaprio's character was to die according to the plot, so he died.