Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 12:40:14 am
content: This is insane.https://twitter.com/lbhq/status/1323482627681198080

author: sandalcandal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 12:57:46 am
content: Clearly an error by some incompetent eBay staffHopefully it gets resolved quickly.Edit: Surely they're not just banning it because it's popular to build emulator systems with? You'd have to ban all computers by that logic.

author: ludzinc
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 01:00:12 am
content: Yet still many other sellers on there with R-pi's, Orange Pi's etc.Is there a review process?

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 01:42:33 am
content: Automated process?That certainly is absurd.

author: TK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 02:00:56 am
content: Probably ML (Machine Learning) trained model detected and raised the issue

author: sandalcandal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 02:13:46 am
content: What would an automated detection system even pick up on? I don't think Littlebird's description even has any mention of emulation or retro gaming. Seems to be up again? Unless it's only one of their listings?https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Raspberry-Pi-3-Model-B-Raspberry-Pi/273112798676?hash=item3f96ca95d4:g:NzoAAOSwKjha4XULhttps://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Raspberry-Pi-4-Model-B-2-GB-RAM/274069627425?hash=item3fcfd2a221:g:05EAAOSwSeVdtT9ZCould be their kit which includes a SNES style controller?https://www.littlebird.com.au/products/little-bird-raspberry-pi-4-complete-starter-kit-4gbMaybe ML association with other Raspberry Pi packaged retro gaming systems with preloaded ROMs

author: floobydust
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 04:09:35 am
content: I would think it's Kodi/streaming that is auto-blacklisted, on the list of supported OS:LibreelecOpen ElecOSMCPinetRISC OSSnappy Ubuntu CoreUbuntu MateWeather StationWindows IOT CoreXBian

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 11:03:39 am
content: eBay does whatever they want. I was once bought Windows 7 software from a dodgy company here in Melbourne called Computer and Parts Land. The reviews are shocking...https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/computer-parts-land. When I tried to sell the it on eBay, eBay flagged it as non-genuine. Computer and Parts Land would not take it back as I had opened it. I reported the dodgy store and the dodgy product to Microsoft and eBay and nothing was done about it. I was left with an expensive lemon.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 01:16:48 pm
content: If you try to sell something on eBay that influential companies are currently making money by selling, you will find that the free, open market society we live in has limitations!

author: Syntax Error
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 06, 2020, 04:08:17 pm
content: Looks like a malicious 'Vero' report, possibly by a competitor, backed up by a person who would ban veroboard. I expect LittleBird's product range is also blocked on the basis that raspberrys are prohibited under Australia's strict biosecure import controls. Ebay has a 'team' of experts who know this stuff. Pay peanuts, get alergic monkeys.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 06, 2020, 06:50:11 pm
content: Quote from: Syntax Error on November 06, 2020, 04:08:17 pmYep. And we thought oppressive censorship only existed in totalitarian states...

author: I wanted a rude username
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 06, 2020, 10:31:19 pm
content: Quote from: SilverSolder on November 06, 2020, 06:50:11 pmIn the past, the state was the only entity that could, in most cases, control publishing, access to markets, etc. Now with consolidation of Internet sites, some of themarethe market (Amazon, eBay, etc.),arethe press. And if someone doesn't like you, they'll get you kicked off them. The former protections should be extended into these domains ... but nobody seems to want to do this.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 06, 2020, 11:04:10 pm
content: Quote from: I wanted a rude username on November 06, 2020, 10:31:19 pmEventually, I think governments will be forced to deal with the reality of it and enact laws that balance this out - including enabling people to have disputes settled in court, instead of by some f#ked algorithm sponsored by corporate giants for their convenience.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2020, 02:37:48 am
content: Quote from: SilverSolder on November 06, 2020, 11:04:10 pmIf not actual legal courts, there needs to be some kind of court process where they are compelled to have an actual human look over it, listen to both sides and make a decision. Too many of these companies automate everything and don't even provide a way to reach a human to contest anything.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2020, 03:51:15 am
content: Quote from: james_s on November 07, 2020, 02:37:48 amExactly, the corporations have effectively bought a monopoly position in a monopoly market.