YouTube to begin adding mid-roll ads to all 8+ minute videos on July 27th - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: vwestlife
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2020, 12:49:53 pm
content: ALERT:Beginning on July 27th, 2020, YouTube is going to start automatically adding mid-rolls ads to all videos that are at least 8 minutes long unless you specifically opt out of it. So if you don't want your channel bombed with ads in the spots its "machine learning algorithm"thinksare "natural breaks" in your videos, be sure to opt out now:https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6175006?hl=en-GBYou can still manually opt to add mid-roll ads to specific videos even if you opt out of the automatically placed ones.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2020, 02:22:30 pm
content: Youtube continues on its path to become like terrestrial US television stations of yesteryear.

author: vwestlife
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2020, 03:14:13 pm
content: The only possible advantage is that people making shorter videos will no longer pad them out with as much filler to reach a 10-minute length (the previous minimum for adding mid-roll ads).But it's giving support to this guy's theory that YouTube is purposely making the ads (now mostly unskippable) so overwhelming and obnoxious that it will force more and more people into paying for an ad-free Premium subscription, eventually turning YouTube from a "free" service into a paid subscription service like Netflix:Why are there so many ads on YouTube lately? - xjet

author: Seekonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2020, 03:58:42 pm
content: What's the problem. My average youtube viewer never even makes it half way thru a 8 minute video before clicking off.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2020, 04:37:58 pm
content: Very interesting. I wasn't aware of how much the content creators could control mid-roll ads. I've unsubscribed from quite a few channels recently for this very reason. My attention span isn't long enough to make it back after an ad.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2020, 04:53:05 pm
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on July 07, 2020, 04:37:58 pmIt disturbs your train of thought, especially if the presenter is on a roll... It ruins the work that the creator did, basically.

author: madsbarnkob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 09, 2020, 09:18:51 pm
content: I am opting out for my channel, mid-roll ads was a necessary evil in flow TV in the old days. Commercial breaks, well, if anyone need a break nowadays they just pause.

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2020, 01:56:46 am
content: Quote from: vwestlife on July 07, 2020, 03:14:13 pmLet's give them adblocking users instead. If they try to block that, we'll adopt stealth adblocking technology.

author: Wolfgang
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2020, 10:37:43 am
content: Quote from: vwestlife on July 07, 2020, 12:49:53 pmNot a bad thing from YouTube in fact.When looking at what Dave said in his video about the new mid-roll ad policy we have the following facts:- All new videos longer than 8 minutes will have mid-roll ads placed *per default*- All older videos longer than 8 minutes where you have opted *out* of mid-roll ads will be *automatically opted IN* for mid-roll ads (fuck them).- You can only *manually* opt out mid-roll ads- You can place mid-roll ads *manually* at any time in you video- If you place mid-roll ads *manually* instead of done automatically by YouTube, you will be *less attractive for advertisers*- As usual, YouTube is justifying all the extra annoyance by "helping creators" and "supporting advertisers", blablabla. *Surprise*Dave needed more than *16* minutes to explain the above (still *without* mid-roll ads interruptions)My consequence: KISS/VS. (In long: Keep it short and simple, violent and sexy).Its easy to say everything that needs to be said here in 4 minutes maximum. This will you keep you clear of mid-roll ads for a while to come.Might give it a thought.

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 08:48:34 am
content: I've pretty much reached my limit with the change, anyone know a way to block only midroll ads? for most of the people I watch the change is already against the creators wishes, so hoping to meet some happy medium thats not just block everything.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 02:46:11 pm
content: Quote from: Rerouter on August 25, 2020, 08:48:34 amSearch for the video with Bing, and view the video on Bing. - ads disappear as if by magic.

author: Wolfgang
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 02:59:43 pm
content: Quote from: SilverSolder on August 25, 2020, 02:46:11 pm... another thing that helps:- never browse with an active google logon.- when the google data protection nag screen appears, answer all questions with no and deactivate your history on google and youtube, do the same for personalized adsEffect:- all companies buying ads from google want to center their ads to target groups. Now you are a nobody, and the companies have no incentive to pay for non-targeted ads-> No ads !! :=)

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 04:03:16 pm
content: Way to many ads lately. I had 4 of them in a 20 minute video, For things like ice cream. It is so bad now, I'm considering placing pihole adblock on the TV.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 04:18:31 pm
content: google is trying their best to get everyone to install an adblocker

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 05:51:35 pm
content: Quote from: langwadt on August 25, 2020, 04:18:31 pm...or to stop wasting so much time watching Youtube videos!

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 05:57:57 pm
content: Quote from: SilverSolder on August 25, 2020, 05:51:35 pmI'm sure someone at google is thinking about how much more money they would make if they replaced all the videos with ads

author: Wolfgang
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 06:24:00 pm
content: Depends. Some videos are so bad that even the ads are better.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 07:23:16 pm
content: Most TV ad sales people wanted more ads, as they got a commission on the sale. That pesky programming always got in the way.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 08:24:32 pm
content: Quote from: SilverSolder on August 25, 2020, 05:51:35 pmYeah, but the time you enjoy wasting is not wasted. Half of my subscribed channels are for learning or getting ideas. The other half for entertainment, which is a human need, especially these times.Now, some idiot CFO at google fears that he is not getting his bonus this year, and wastes everyone's time with ads for ice cream.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 09:43:29 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on August 25, 2020, 08:24:32 pmhe must have missed the economics class where they explained that increasing the price doesn't necessarily mean making more money

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2020, 11:24:13 pm
content: Or the many examples where increasing advertisements encouraged the use of ad blockers. Still hoping for an answer to a way to block only midrolls

author: TheWelly888
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2020, 12:57:06 pm
content: Not seen any mid-roll ads on YT myself - one happy adblock user here!

author: ve7xen
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2020, 09:50:01 pm
content: Quote from: Rerouter on August 25, 2020, 11:24:13 pmYouTube Premium.Why does everyone expect a free lunch? Either put up with the ads, or pay for ad-free access to the content. Up to you, YouTube and its creators owe you nothing for free.

author: Wolfgang
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2020, 10:13:01 pm
content: No the whole story in my view.1) YOU are the product. They sell your personal data, preferences, history and whatnot to anybody who pays for it.2) The asset they speculate on is your time and your attention. Dont know about you, but mine is *very* valueable.3) Nobody is obliged to provide me with free (mis)information. The net is huge, I'll find what I need, dont worry.4) I am not obliged to watch mostly idotic ads, nonsense,clickbait, pre- and mid-rolls, whatever.5) My deal is: you provide me with what interest me and you sell my data. If you try to annoy me on top of that, I am gone.DL1DWG

author: ve7xen
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2020, 10:21:10 pm
content: Quote from: Wolfgang on August 26, 2020, 10:13:01 pmThey don't sell your personal data at all. They sell advertising that uses that personal data to target you appropriately. Without the ads, that data is of minimal usefulness to them. You are the product because you have eyeballs and money to spend; knowing what kind of content you like to watch is otherwise only useful to get you to watch more videos.This is all fine, though. As you say you will do, if you don't like the arrangement, leave. That is the appropriate response. Whining about the deal isn't. My time is valuable, and I get value out of the content I view on YouTube, so I have no problem paying for YouTube Premium, which is in my estimation, much cheaper than the value I extract from it.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2020, 10:52:17 pm
content: Quote from: ve7xen on August 26, 2020, 09:50:01 pmI did not ask for the content to be available to me. It is the creators who are begging me to watch their content. And it is Youtube who's only reason for existence is me. Therefore they should pay me money to watch their crap.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2020, 11:19:23 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on August 26, 2020, 10:52:17 pmYoutube pay you by making massive amount of knowledge easily available for you to watch

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2020, 04:39:09 am
content: Quote from: langwadt on August 26, 2020, 11:19:23 pmOr, in many cases, massive amounts of drivel!

author: Berni
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2020, 05:13:01 am
content: All they did was force me to install a youtube ad blocker plugin.An ad at the start or end of a video was annoying but didn't bother me too much, just click skip and move on. Sometimes the ad was actually a bit interesting and i watched some of it. But interrupting me mid video with an ad (Especially an unskippable one) isreallyfrigging annoying. Now pretty much every single video has them, long videos have like 4 of them.So screw you Youtube. Instead of making me watch more ads, instead i won't watch a single ad anymore thanks to ad blocker.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2020, 06:04:06 am
content: Quote from: langwadt on August 26, 2020, 11:19:23 pmLet me try again:I did not ask for the content to be available to me.If they did, it is their problem how they make the delivery process sustainable. Not my problem.

author: ercapoccia
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2020, 06:30:44 am
content: On my computer after this move i've re-installed an ad-blocker that works with youtube.When i'm watching from the FireTV (i did not find a suitable ad blocker yet) i am so focus to pres the skip button that i don't even know what the spot are about.Here in Italy you can skip most of the ads after 5 sec.In USA spot that you can't skip are much more frequent. (To watch MSNBC's yt channel and some other channels i've to use a VPN)

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2020, 08:47:09 am
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on August 27, 2020, 04:39:09 amsure there's good, bad and terrible, but it doesn't change that it has to be paid for somehow

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2020, 01:47:18 pm
content: Quote from: ve7xen on August 26, 2020, 10:21:10 pmThat's a calculation each individual has to make. - In my case, I don't use Youtube enough to justify a subscription. The increasing amount of ads just means I use Youtube even less than before. It isn't as if I have trouble thinking of things to do rather than watching Youtube!

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2020, 10:13:54 pm
content: So after an unskippable ad, the second ad started playing two minutes into a video. Two minutes uninterrupted.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2020, 03:50:07 am
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on August 30, 2020, 10:13:54 pmThat's the kind of thing that would just make me hit the big X in the top right corner and avoid visiting that site again...Use Bing... you can see every youtube video via Bing, with zero ads.