Since when is critising the police a threat - Page 1
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author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 11:01:03 pm
content: Australia police think so abuse of power ?#http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/government/AU/?p=2012-06

author: Rick
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 12:41:25 am
content: Quote from: AcHmed99 on January 28, 2013, 11:38:25 pmYou have this sort of a... in every police force. You give them some power and they abuse it. I heard black police officers in USA are badly behaving with immigrants.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 01:06:02 am
content: It is however, legal to swear at police. Apparently they're used to itSwearing at police OK

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 01:48:04 am
content: The problem is that being a cop isn't a nice job.Therefor it attracts people who just want power and a gun.The kind of people who would make good cops don't want the job.If they put really strict checks in place to stop the wrong type of people becoming cops and paid cops a decent wage it might improve things.

author: SoftwareSamurai
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 01:48:54 am
content: Well there is no "freedom of speech" in the Australian Constitution nor any of its laws, so yeah, a citizen criticizing the police therecan indeedbe considered a threat.(And before anyone jumps down my throat for saying that, I'm looking at this purely from a legal standpoint, nothing else.)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 03:27:04 am
content: Quote from: SoftwareSamurai on January 29, 2013, 01:48:54 amTechnically, that's true (except for political criticism for which there are laws in place to protect), but legally, that's not true, we do actually have free speech as part of practical common law. It's just more "warm and fuzzy" and based on case law than those in those countries that have a specific "bill of rights". But yes, we do have free speech:http://www.immi.gov.au/living-in-australia/choose-australia/about-australia/five-freedoms.htmDave.

author: bradleytron
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 04:49:34 am
content: Quote from: AcHmed99 on January 28, 2013, 11:38:25 pmApparently he was also quoted in an earlier newpaper article as stating that his job is about hunting human garbage! Coupled with the outrageous police presence in Toronto during the G20/G8 together with Officer Bubbles my view of policing in my city changed in the negative but then the story about the officer in NYC buying a pair of boots for a homeless man turned that on its head. For me It's not that police forces have officers like "Bubbles" its when the authorities within fail to do anything to correct the behavior!

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 06:52:24 am
content: If you want to see how bad (US) police misconduct (and politics in general) is getting, try these non-mainstream news aggregation sites:http://www.informationliberation.com/http://www.libertynewsonline.com/http://www.phantomreport.com/http://www.iraq-war.ru/http://domesticenemies.net/More general news:http://whatreallyhappened.com/http://rense.com/http://rt.com/http://torrentfreak.com/

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 01:29:27 am
content: Come to America and see what the police get away with. It's ridiculous. Although, recently the court upheld the right to give cops the finger. In practice, however, it would likely get you beaten or tasered.

author: Rick
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 02:09:41 am
content: Quote from: AcHmed99 on January 29, 2013, 01:09:15 pmDrugs are a different issue. I think there is some hypocrisy in the West about that. It's not only a problem of the Police.The general policy is : they don't want to eradicate it otherwise it would have disappeared long time ago.I made once frown a young Australian police officer on a plane (who was sitting right besides me bringing back a drug dealer to my country) by telling that. He admitted the judicial, political system with the law enforcement are responsible but was upset that I said it was an unspoken "policy".

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 02:00:29 pm
content: See what happens to this soccer mom in Los Angeles. She wasn't even blowing bubbles.Although she was awarded a judgement, the problem doesn't get fixed.

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 06:37:52 pm
content: Actually, the footage was difficult to get. The lawyer had to keep fighting for it. The police only later, reluctantly, came up video from a backup camera. Apparently, it is a law in CA to have video of all traffic stops.

author: jerry507
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 08:39:37 pm
content: And then the woman settles out of court so nothing ever happens. She was quite happy with her 250k. Says something about her as well.I don't think cops are any better or worse, but you do see a lot more video of every bad thing now because it's technically possible. There's also some misguided notion that it's possible to only hire "good" cops. First, it's hard to even make that judgement call on who is good and bad as if we can just read it with our multimeters. Second is that we'd have enough good cops left over to police our streets.Bad apples will always exist. Just because you can see so many more bad apples now doesn't mean they weren't always there. Lots of good cops have bad days though, and now we put their bad days up on youtube and act like they behave like that all the time. We can act pretty ignorant sometimes, I guess.

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 09:21:25 pm
content: Quote from: jerry507 on January 30, 2013, 08:39:37 pmWhat should she have done? What would you do in her situation?

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2013, 01:06:47 am
content: Settling out of court or not, people should be pissed that this cop cost the taxpayers $250K for his reckless behavior. In any other line of work he would have been fired.

author: Stiege
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2013, 01:13:21 am
content: Quote from: MikeK on January 31, 2013, 01:06:47 amYeah, I guess that's the big thing, they're not actually being held accountable for their actions. If they're not acting within the law, then their actions are unlawful and should be treated as such, the individuals should be charged.