3D printed gun, manchester, uk - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 12:18:00 pm
content: This caught my attention today, not only is wythenshaw just 5 mins down the road from me but also the hype involved with 3d printing,http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-24666591

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 12:46:41 pm
content: ah the idiocy of united kingdom police never ceases to amaze me this arbitrary looks like trigger it must be triggerthe bbc interviewed the guy who say the superposed gun parts were replacement parts for his makerbot i cant see the dumb crooks getting on with a makerbot more sensitizing reporting and fearmongering from deluded ignorant dumb cops.

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 12:59:03 pm
content: its a upgrade for the printer soon after it was launched, and most people will have downloaded and upgraded this part within their printer. It basically pulls the plastic filament, and it used to jam an awful lot.http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:53125

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 01:12:03 pm
content: Ireallyhope the police had a better reason to raid his home and place him under arrest than the fact he owned a makerbot.

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 01:16:01 pm
content: Lol, well there you goI would imagine there wont be any follow-up press saying they made a huge mistake.Of course doesnt help with the press hyping everything upThe daily mail will want all 3d printers banned...

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 01:24:30 pm
content: i remember watching one these shows were a camra guy follows police around after the incident the police guy said this.'i have a sixth sense to detecting criminals' 'only it takes luck for it to work'maybe it was his sixth sense

author: Rascal
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 02:30:37 pm
content: I wonder what instigated the raid in the first place?Police State UK !

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 03:05:37 pm
content: The suspect was arrested for manufacturing gunpowder, that apparently, was the reason for the raid.

author: Mr Pig
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 05:31:05 pm
content: The time, effort and cost involved in printing a functioning gun is almost certainly massively greater that that needed by the average Manchurian to acquire a real one!

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 06:58:05 pm
content: The British authorities didn't like it when we had guns either.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 07:01:53 pm
content: Quote from: GeoffS on October 25, 2013, 03:05:37 pmAnd I'm sure he was planning to shoot someone with it, rather than just having a little fun.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 07:37:29 pm
content: Quote from: Stonent on October 25, 2013, 06:58:05 pmThey liked it in WW2

author: JoeO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 08:02:21 pm
content: Quote from: zapta on October 25, 2013, 07:37:29 pmThe Aussies liked it when the God fearing, rifle toting Americans showed up in 1942 and after.

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 08:08:40 pm
content: Quote from: zapta on October 25, 2013, 07:37:29 pmYeah.Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Lisa is getting married to an Englishman. Homer says "We saved your ass in WWII!" to which he replies "We saved yours in WWIII!"

author: kxenos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 08:27:46 pm
content: Quote from: dexters_lab on October 25, 2013, 12:18:00 pmAt least he has a chance to explain...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24648974

author: 8086
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2013, 08:30:41 pm
content: Quote from: kxenos on October 25, 2013, 08:27:46 pmThat was tremendously different circumstances, and after reading several reports on it I am on the police's side I think.

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2013, 12:10:45 am
content: Quote from: 8086 on October 25, 2013, 08:30:41 pmUsually toy guns in the US are painted bright orange or have a bright orange tip to differentiate them. I don't think I've seen any for sale in a long time that weren't that way.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 26, 2013, 01:05:25 am
content: What fascinates me in USA, why to allow guns at all if you get shot by police if they see you with them.

author: Phaedrus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2013, 01:16:07 am
content: Because they don't shoot you unless you're doing something suspicious, like carrying a rifle in a mall, or are under suspicion of drug dealing or something.Also depends on region. In the south, showing an officer your gun (with proper introduction and etiquette) is more likely to spark a discussion about brand preference and handloading, while even trying to do so in California will more likely get you arrested.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2013, 01:21:39 am
content: Quote from: Phaedrus on October 26, 2013, 01:16:07 amAs far as I know, California no longer has any kind of open carry law. Guns have to be transported in a locked case and cannot be displayed in public.

author: ElectroIrradiator
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 11:16:27 am
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on October 28, 2013, 10:30:45 amHas there been any official retractions in the UK press of the claims put forward by the police?

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 12:08:49 pm
content: Have not seen anythingIt was all over the local news on friday including interviews with the local police, it annoyed me that much i emailed the local bbc news about itThe whole thing was overblown by both the press and policeAt a guess we will hear nothing more about it when the police realise how reactionary they have been

author: ElectroIrradiator
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 12:23:25 pm
content: Well, I noticed the GMP have removed their original news article regarding the 'find', and replaced it with awashed out PR statement. I sort of expected this, once I realized the level of incompetence displayed within, so I 'accidentally' a machine readable copy of the original page for future reference.The original article was posted at 07:17:52 AM on October 25th, so it only took them about 4 hours and change to realize the bovine manure had hit the ventilation device.

author: 8086
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 01:15:28 pm
content: Quote from: Stonent on October 26, 2013, 12:10:45 amThe same is true here, but it wasn't a toy, it was a pellet gun, and it didn't have any bright colours.

author: Neilm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 07:10:32 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on October 28, 2013, 04:17:37 pmWell, keep an eye out. They raided the place saying he was making explosives - I'm waiting for the announcement that he had a black powder license (I.e. can keep and use small quantities of gunpowder).

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 11:30:18 pm
content: Potassium Nitrate, powdered charcoal and sulphur (or is it sulfur, I forget) I think those are the only things required to make a basic gunpowder.Those 3 things could easily be found in a residence. Potassium Nitrate is in many fertilizers, powdered charcoal would be from a barbecue grill, and sulfur for a period of time was used as a fungicide and antibiotic to treat wounds.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 08:26:00 am
content: QuoteIndeed - in fact I believe fertilizer was the favoured source of an oxidant by the IRA for many years.In a modern UK household sulphur would be quite rare

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 06:47:05 pm
content: You can substitute castor sugar for the charcoal as well. Sulphur was used for many years on farms as a fungicide on fruit and plants.

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 07:30:48 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on October 29, 2013, 06:47:05 pmI remember seeing them use it on the TV show M*A*S*H*