Is this 647€ Hantek 6084D scope any good compared to similar Rigol or Siglent? - Page 1
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author: adbjn
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 09:18:58 pm
content: This is my first post here so please be kind :-)I am looking for a better beginner scope in Europe (somewhat mid-level) with at least 70MHz, 1GS/s, a somewhat good amount of memory, 4 channels, logic analyzer, a wave/function generator and a touch screen of a least 7".I am just a beginner - so I just thought I should just get a decent cheap scope with as much functionality as possible. The idea is to use it for synths and synth logic, synth repair, debug, reverse engineering, etc. I want to be able to probe into every single part of a synth, both digital and analogue.My budget is a bit flexible but I would prefer not to go above 1000€, which to be honest seems hard if I am going to get all those features in a single scope. I have also considered getting the function generator and the logic analyzer separately, which is maybe a better idea?I have been looking at a LOT of different oscilloscopes and reviews recently and these are some scopes I found with all or most features included (all prices in Euro excluding VAT):Hantek 6084D Total: 647€ - Everything included -https://www.hantek.fr/oscilloscopes-de-table/200-hantek-mpo6084d-oscilloscope-4-canaux-80mhz-2-gen-awg-16-anal-logique.htmlRigol DS1074Z-S+ Total: 809€ - 609€ (scope) + 200€ (logic probe) (does NOT have touch screen)Siglent 1104X-E Total: 856€ - 429€ (scope) + 139€ (wave gen) + 288€ (logic probe) (does not seem to have touch screen)Rigol MSO5074 Total: 1180€ - 883€ (scope) + 297€ (logic probe)Siglent 2104X+ Total: 1534€ - 1199€ (scope) + 335€ (logic probe)Both Siglent and Rigol scopes can apparently be hacked to get higher frequencies and more features. Don't know about the Hantek. The Siglent 2014X+ seems to get the best reviews but it is quite expensive for a beginner like me.The Hantek scope seems to be a very good value for the money. Or am I missing something obvious? It seemingly has everything, such as a touch screen (a little small but anyway), 4 channels, wave gen and logic probe with 16 channels. However, I almost cannot find any information at all about this scope and almost no reviews. I find that strange considering the price point and all these included features. And usually, when something seems to be too good to be true it is. Is there a good reason to stay away from that Hantek scope? Is it buggy, slow, noisy front-end or generally just of very poor quality or are the distributors in Europe not any good?Any kind of input or suggestions/recommendations would be most welcome.Johan

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 09:29:44 pm
content: I own both the SDS1104X-E and the SDS2104X plus, both have been "improved" to fully option them (info is on the forum)You can also make your own logic probe for the SDS2104X plus (info is on the forum too), I have done this and made a video about it.I have also done reviews on the Siglent scopes, check out my channel in case you haven't already seen them.If your budget can stretch to it get the SDS2104X plus, you won't regret it.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 09:51:54 pm
content: Quote from: adbjn on October 28, 2021, 09:18:58 pmWelcome to the forum.FYI the LA/MSO option is on promotion.See here:https://www.siglenteu.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds2000xp/https://www.siglenteu.com/news-article/save-up-to-e496-with-a-new-sds2000x-plus-oscilloscope-and-option-bundle/

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 10:14:20 pm
content: I forgot about the special they have on right now, that is the better way to go as by the time you get the bits together to build the LA module you may as well have got the special and have the proper unit.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 10:41:36 pm
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on October 28, 2021, 10:14:20 pmEvery market region currently has the MSO/LA promo which also includes the FG/AWG option for Bode plots however Oceania has the free options promo running also which has the overlap of FG/AWG option for both promotions.Yeah it gets a bit confusing ............

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2021, 05:26:24 am
content: Quote from: adbjn on October 28, 2021, 09:18:58 pmNah, the FFT is rubbish.Quote from: adbjn on October 28, 2021, 09:18:58 pmInputs are a bit noisy.Quote from: adbjn on October 28, 2021, 09:18:58 pmBoth are good for this. I'm not sure what you'll use the logic analyzer for though.Quote from: adbjn on October 28, 2021, 09:18:58 pmHantek's reputation is "buggy and lacking in features".

author: AndrewBCN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2021, 01:21:25 pm
content: Quote from: adbjn on October 28, 2021, 09:18:58 pmHello Johan,Welcome to the forum. I would like to ask you, since you wrote that you are a beginner: how much experience do you have using oscilloscopes, arbitrary waveform generators and logic analyzers?Quote from: adbjn on October 28, 2021, 09:18:58 pmI would definitely recommend that you get a separate AWG and a separate USB logic analyzer. And in your case, an external USB 24-bit sound card.Quote from: adbjn on October 28, 2021, 09:18:58 pmThese are all good scopes that will serve you for years to come. And it will probably take you months to learn all their features and limitations. So the risk is that you buy (and pay for) a DSO with features and performance that you are simply not going to use at all with your work on audio synthesizers.In your situation, I would buy an even less expensive 2-channel Hantek model (I have their 2C10), a separate AWG and USB logic analyzer and a USB 24-bit sound card, the whole set costing less than 500€, and save the rest of your budget for when you feel the need for a more sophisticated (and more expensive) DSO, in a year or two; and by then you'll be able to list exactly those features you need and choose accordingly.