About to buy an oscilloscope - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: zitman
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 09:19:19 am
content: Hi All,Within the next few weeks I am going to buy a digital storage 'scope. I currently have an analogue scope. Following some research I have got a short list of two scopes and was wondering what the considered opinion of them was and whether there were any other alternatives to consider. I have a budget of 300UKP and am very much a beginner in electronics and want a 'scope I can use to learn with, both in terms of how to use the 'scope itself and of course to help me explore electronics further. To date most of my projects have been Arduino or Raspberry Pi based although I have built some other projects.(very) Short list:Siglent SDS2102Rigol DS1052EAll thoughts appreciated.Z

author: danb35
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 10:35:09 am
content: There are a lot of threads on this subject already, and the search feature will be very helpful for you. However, with your budget, I'd be looking hard at the Rigol 1000Z series. Compared to the 1052E, it has 4 channels instead of 2, a larger screen, better UI, better features, and is just generally a newer design. It starts around $600US, which should be pretty close to your 300 GBP mark.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 10:57:14 am
content: Quote from: danb35 on October 28, 2013, 10:35:09 am300GBP would be a tad short of $600USD, unfortunately (~$486USD according to xe.com). Not sure what the UK cost would be, as they and the rest of the EU seem to be gouged badly, and the price may not include VAT (20%?).It would be a nice scope to have though, and might warrant a budget increase if it's within reason there (i.e. not jumping from 300GBP to 1kGBP or similar insanity).

author: zitman
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 11:21:36 am
content: Thanks both.I had done a search but it is confusing as a lot of the scopes being talked about are difficult, if not impossible, to find in the UK. I am not averse to buying from China but with something like this I would prefer a UK source.I have been unable to find the Rigol 1000Z series on offer here yet. The Rigol UK site (which I believe is a distributor for Rigol rather than Rigol themselves) list a 1000B series but the base model DS1074B starts at 586UKP which is almost double what I was considering.I will do some more searching for that Rigol model. Any thoughts on the Siglent? There are only three posts here when I search. The specs seen reasonable and the screen looks OK but the only stuff that seems to be around appears to be Siglent marketing bumf.ThanksZ

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 11:27:48 am
content: Quote from: zitman on October 28, 2013, 11:21:36 amIt would be well worth waiting for IMO, if it's affordable in the UK? (or importable?)

author: Whuffo
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 11:40:54 am
content: I just bought a brand new Rigol DS1052E from China; it'll be delivered to my door in a day or two. $285 US, and it's a well known unit - bugs worked out, mature firmware. After I check and verify it, I'll load the "firmware improvement" and be happy with my cute little 100 MHz DSO scope.It's low end stuff, but it's perfectly suitable for my needs - I could spend lots more and get more bells and whistles, but the added expense wouldn't be cost effective. I find the small size attractive; my work space is a bit crowded and every square centimeter is precious.Your opinion may vary; figure out what you need from a scope (not what you want) - then choose accordingly.

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 12:30:58 pm
content: Quote from: zitman on October 28, 2013, 11:21:36 amYou didn't find this?http://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Rigol-DS1074Z.html

author: zitman
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 08:52:15 am
content: No didn't see that one. I narrowed my search to UK sellers so missed it. Will do some research to find out what the VAT, import taxes / duties are and widen the search I think. Gonna have to save a bit more I think!Thanks allA

author: ElectroIrradiator
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 08:59:58 am
content: Quote from: zitman on October 29, 2013, 08:52:15 amBatronix is in Germany, so there are no import tax/VAT issues for UK customers.

author: max-bit
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 09:48:26 am
content: low price 1052Better .. 1074 ...Best 2xxx

author: zitman
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 10:29:19 am
content: Thanks again.ElectroIrradiator - I take it I still pay the VAT (or its equivalent) in Germany?Max-Bit - I am strongly of the opinion that the 1074 is the way to go. Just need to save a bit more!CheersZ

author: ElectroIrradiator
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 12:01:13 pm
content: Quote from: zitman on October 29, 2013, 10:29:19 amYes, German VAT of 19% is added before checkout, unless you can provide a VAT exemption number from a company.So as shipping is free within the EU, the price for the DS1074Z would be 450 EUR * 1.19 = 535.5 EUR ~ 456 UKP.

author: zitman
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2013, 04:26:44 pm
content: Well there is a new twist.My gaffer has just come in and said he was going to give me £100 bonus but has just ordered a me the Siglent 'scope instead! (didn't realise he was listening when I was talking to a colleague or he has installed web usage monitoring software!)Found it difficult to argue, at least it's something to learn on and if it turns out to be rubbish or I outgrow it then I can sell it on.So thanks to everyone for their contributions and I will let you know how I get on with it.Z

author: Dave Turner
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2013, 01:30:28 pm
content: You might note that the Rigol UK site has been updated, it now redirects tohttp://jetpb.qjyzk.servertrust.com/Default.asp#.UnTq5ic7eSo. They also have the DS1000Z in stock.Their prices taking into account VAT are similar but note that Batronix shipping to the UK is free on orders over 400 euro. I haven't found out the cost of shipping from the Rigol UK site yet. Against that is the cost of changing GBP to Euro if buying from Batronix. I suspect that there isn't much in it.

author: gmb42
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2013, 10:50:11 pm
content: Rigol UK seem to be charging £10 for standard UK shipping