Why Cant Remove Older Posts? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2011, 07:20:37 pm
content: i just browsed my older posts, through profile section. i noticed some/most of them dont have "Remove" option so i cant delete (but some can), but when i clicked to open the thread where it is, then only i can delete it. is it intentional? or a bug? or both? or neither?

author: Jon Chandler
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2011, 09:00:46 pm
content: Personally, I don't like forums where previous messages can be edited. I hate replying to something, only to look like a fool when the original poster edits the message to say something different after I've posted.

author: McMonster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2011, 09:17:34 pm
content: Some forums automatically block editing and removing posts after certain time, for clarity, order and cases like Jon Chandler described above.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 12:48:25 am
content: Deleting posts should not be allowed after a reply has been posted in my opinion, it breaks the flow of the conversation.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 12:53:18 am
content: It's equally annoying if you write a post and use the preview button to get it exactly right and spelled correct only to find 3 people have already posted by the time you're actually ready to hit submit.I much prefer to post an answer and then tidy it up with editing afterwards.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 09:17:21 am
content: you people are off topic!i know what i should delete to avoid broken forum (which will make the job harder, make my spirit down). but its random. some less usefull with no reply no quote msg i cannot delete, but other more usefull posts i can delete. maybe i should check again if my previous msg that has been replied by others made it "undeletable". i just want to make sure if its intentional or a bug. i'm not against anything.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 11:19:01 am
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on December 13, 2011, 07:20:37 pmI don't recall any option that would disable you being able to delete your old posts, I certainly didn't enable anything.I don't think you can delete your own post if it's the first in the thread perhaps?Not sure if SimpleMachines has that option of disabling old post editing after a set time?Dave.

author: McMonster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 12:48:50 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 14, 2011, 11:19:01 amIt does, Administration > Forum > Message settings > Time for editing since posting message (or something like that, I use different language).

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 06:15:25 pm
content: in the older SMF, "remove" button is available to all messages iirc. as i said its random now, no correlation if its older post or not, to say it simpler, its interleaved between "got remove button" and "no remove button" (up to notify button only) messages, or about half the messages in currently displayed page can be deleted and another half cant, and interleaved (actually more cant than can). not necessarily the 1st msg in a thread, and not necessary with quote (my reply to others) inside. just checked: not necessarily someone replied to it, and even the 1st message in a thread got the "remove" button! just an example (i'm not intending to delete, just for example):ican'tremove this messagefrom my profile, but i can remove when opened it from the thread:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5865.msg76804#msg76804(reply #9 in The perfect function generator, does it exist ? thread)no one replied, i didnt quote, i can delete gracely without interrupting the thread flow if i want to. but i cant, from "show post" profile.icanremove this messagefrom my profile, and also i can remove when opened it from the thread:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5890.msg77061#msg77061(1st post in China LC200A LC Meter Teardown thread)

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 06:22:52 pm
content: Just don't try to delete old posts. What you said, you said. Leave it be, it's part of the historical record.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 07:57:47 pm
content: Quote from: IanB on December 14, 2011, 06:22:52 pmbad history need to be erased. and i want to save the world by reducing waste.

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 08:10:20 pm
content: Quote from: Psi on December 14, 2011, 12:53:18 amI often find errors in my posts after posting them. Some times they are grammatical, others orthographical and sometimes I choose a wrong word to communicate something.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 10:13:29 pm
content: well, another technique to share. sometime i hate the "last edited tag" at the bottom line after i made the editing. so what i do, copy the earlier (edited/corrected) post, delete it, and paste into a fresh new message

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 14, 2011, 10:16:25 pm
content: Quote from: McMonster on December 14, 2011, 12:48:50 pmAh, so it does.Time for a poll perhaps....Dave.

author: tinhead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2011, 12:51:54 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 14, 2011, 10:16:25 pmoh pls don't ... just think about the longest threads in forum - it is just perfect to be able to edit over and over againthe first posting (to update what so ever, add highlights). Without that edit function ppl would get lost.

author: Joshua
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2011, 04:37:22 am
content: I think it is definitely necessary to edit. However I wouldn't mind not allowing deletion. I can see where that could really cause some confusion. Yes I realize that it can be no different than editing, but I think we would all agree that the more deletions there are the more confusing it will become.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 15, 2011, 07:46:14 am
content: Quote from: tinhead on December 15, 2011, 12:51:54 amYep, fair call, that's important and useful.Dave.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2011, 09:23:07 am
content: There really isn't much point in disabling the delete button.If it was disabled and someone wanted to delete their post they will just edit and change the text for a( or something else random )And there are situations where you need to delete.Like when you accidentally click quote when you meant to click edit.

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2011, 12:47:11 am
content: Quote from: Joshua on December 15, 2011, 04:37:22 amWhen replying to a particular post, like I am doing know, people should quote the post they are replying to. That way, it doesn't cause too much confusion. If Dave disables the remove button, people could still replace their posts with something like a blank space or a "Post removed" message, but since people would be quoting messages, it wouldn't matter.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 18, 2011, 09:15:42 am
content: Quote from: ivan747 on December 18, 2011, 12:47:11 amYep, good point. If you want to forever immortalise someones post, just quote it.Dave.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2011, 11:17:17 am
content: Last time I checked. It was possible to delete or a thread if you're the creator, although I didn't go through with it because I don't think I should be allowed to do it. I haven't actually tested it.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2011, 11:35:13 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 18, 2011, 09:15:42 amhowever, people are able to quote any text, doesn't have to be a real quote.Quote from: EEVblog on December 17, 2011, 10:09:02 pmNot that it's always a bad thing.It's nice to edit a quote and remove text before/after the sentence you're replying to. Especially if it's a really long post.That probably wouldn't be possible if the quote system was locked down.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2011, 12:33:52 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 15, 2011, 07:46:14 amJust another support for tinhead's argument. Sometimes the first post in an important thread has to be kept up-to-date as a summary of the following 60+ pages of posts. It would be lousy if the only way to safely upgrade the Rigol scope was to read every post in the Rigol Upgrade thread.Richard.

author: McMonster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2011, 12:47:22 pm
content: Quote from: amspire on December 18, 2011, 12:33:52 pmWhat would be really helpful here is a mod for SMF that makes only the first post in the thread editable. Unfortunately it seems such mod doesn't exist yet. Maybe ask someone skilled with PHP to create it? I don't think it would be complicated, but it's not really my area of interest.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2011, 04:25:45 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on December 18, 2011, 11:17:17 ami believe i have done that sometime ago. you know, i usually made useless threadi didnt think it deserved immortality, cant remember what it was. hell i "saved" too many posts in one click! anyway, some thought its unethical, but under eevblog regulation, whose thread created in this forum? the OP? or the admin? iirc electro-tech declared any thread created will belong to the forum owner.

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2011, 06:44:33 pm
content: Quote from: Psi on December 18, 2011, 11:35:13 amThat is very unethical, I would ban someone who does this to say something negative about the author of the fake quote.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2011, 11:54:06 am
content: Quote from: ivan747 on December 18, 2011, 06:44:33 pmyeah, i agree.I was just pointing out that quoting something doesn't really provide any proof that it was actually said.