oscilloscope recommendation for hobby use - Page 1
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author: Aurgelme
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 06:22:24 pm
content: Hello everyone, first post here in the forum.I need a new hobby scope as my old scope Tektronix 2213 which I have had since 1982 is completely worn out.The choices I'm left with after a lot of reading here in the forum (a lot of confusion, since the threads usually get very long with a lot of opinions)There is a small price difference between these, which is not decisiveMICSIG TO3004Sealant SDS2104XRigol DHO924SWhich is the eventual first choice?

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 06:30:24 pm
content: This has been discussed to death and then discussed some more.Nothing has really changed here in the past 5-10 years, just search for the dozens of "which oscilloscope should I buy" threads and read those, there is no need to start yet another one.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 06:37:02 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on June 19, 2023, 06:30:24 pmAgreed. Step 1 is to get a clear picture of the requirements and select an oscilloscope that fits best given the budget constraints. The answer can also be to buy two oscilloscopes...At the moment I have 5 oscilloscopes and each one of them has a unique feature the others don't have.

author: Aurgelme
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 08:34:59 pm
content: As I wrote above here, I have read through many threads regarding the choice of scope, and the threads get long with lots of discussion about whether one is better than the other.2 of the choices I presented are probably not officially for sale yet, but all are roughly in the same category, low budget oscilloscope.Since I haven't bought a scope for over 40 years, this is not so easy for an older man.So it would have helped me a lot to answer the question instead of criticizing it. You could even just ignore what I asked.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 08:41:01 pm
content: With all respect: what is better for you depends on what you are doing. You might as well have asked us 'what is the best mode of transportation for me?'. Without telling us whether you have a driver's license, live near public transport, like to cycle, etc, we can't provide you with an answer.So please tell us a bit more about the measurements you like to make and what kind of projects you are working on.All your options would be great replacements for your old Tektronix. But they can also do a lot more. But the 'lot more' is not the same for any of the models. It would be a shame to skip a model that has a feature that is particulary helpful for the projects you work on.And then there is also the matter of buying a new product that might have bugs (with Rigol it is pretty much a given that their products need at least a couple of years to mature) or buy a product that has been on the market for a while which has several firmware updates. Although my experience with MicSig is that they deliver on their promises; their products work out of the box as speficied. I would not worry so much with buying the TO3004 when it is introduced.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 09:31:31 pm
content: Quote from: Aurgelme on June 19, 2023, 08:34:59 pmYes not a very good welcome to this forum from 2 experienced members.nctnico does have a point about your needs, exactly what are they as it's something we also try to flesh out with our customers.However coming from what you had, those old Teks are nowhere as well featured as the modern DSO.Currently SDS2104X Plus and all SDS2000X Plus models are under worldwide promotion where you get a free BW update = SDS2204X Plus < lots more scope than anything you have previously used.

author: Aurgelme
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 10:21:25 pm
content: Thank you both for your kind replies.Then it seems that the order of the scopes I wrote in the first post agrees with what you know about them.Micsig TO3004 is already in stock at the supplier, so I think I'll go for this, even if it will possibly be a challenge to learn how to use the touch screen.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 10:27:58 pm
content: Quote from: Aurgelme on June 19, 2023, 06:22:24 pmPros/Cons from my point of view:Micsig:+ Portable+ 1M/50 Ohms inputs+ Hdmi output, high resolution screen (1280x800)+ Active probe support (of course only micsig ones)- No Eres- Only 100k FFT- A little bit meager trigger functions- No bode plot function- No inbuilt awgSiglent:+ 1M/50 ohms inputs+ Low noise frontend+ 2M FFT+ Math functions incl. formular editor+ Bode plot+ Power Analyzer+ Inbuilt 50Mhz awg+ Matured software/UI, continous firmware updates+ 10 bit mode (software)+ Eres+ Accurate timebase (1ppm)+ Easy to hack with full options and 500Mhz bandwith (max 2ch)- No video output- No active probe support- Math on 2ch max.- No manual memory control ( for those who need it)- Inbuilt awg got meager features- Lower screen resolution (1024x600)Rigol:+ Small, lightweight, portable use possible+ Native 12 bit resolution+ Fresh, innovative UI+ Low noise frontend+ Hdmi output- Rigol is known for it´s buggy software plus slow debugging time- Only 7" screen- Only 1M inputs- No bode plot- No inbuilt awg- No autodetection probe capability- Only vector mode (display)If you don´t need a portable scope, no 12 bits and no video output, the siglent could be your choice.At work we´re very confident with the siglent.Otherwise try the micsig, the rigol I won´t recommend actually (plus it´s not launched yet)

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 10:43:35 pm
content: The MicSig might not have Eres but it has configurable input filtering (high pass / low pass) which is more useful than Eres where it comes to filtering.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 10:56:50 pm
content: It could save one the capacitor at the input....(1µ and everything is gone)

author: MMMarco
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 11:09:17 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on June 19, 2023, 10:27:58 pm+1 for that one. I own a DS1054Z and I'm not blown away by its software ; wouldn't buy again.

author: skander36
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 11:10:22 pm
content: Quote from: Aurgelme on June 19, 2023, 10:21:25 pm- I wouldn't be so hurry in your place going to Micsig. It is too loud. Check here before buy:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/micsig-new-oscilloscopes-on-website/msg4767260/#msg4767260Also FFT settings are so limited that Rigol seem high end one. Beside FFT it has only Double wave, AX+B and advanced Math (which let you input some simple expressions). Attached is Micsig math tab. And indeed the touch interface is awfull, at least at the begining.- Rigol with DHO1000 has quickly fixed the firmware so you may have luck also with the new DHO9xx. I am pretty satisfied with my DHO 1000 with the lates fw.... but if you are coming from Tektronix 2213, I guess you will be a match for Siglent ... old, stable, polished.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 11:15:59 pm
content: Quote from: Aurgelme on June 19, 2023, 06:22:24 pmWhat did you use it for most?

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2023, 11:24:00 pm
content: QuoteThat´s good to hear, but then why are the rigol threads "dead" ?Keep them up to date, fill them with life.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 01:17:41 am
content: Quote from: MMMarco on June 19, 2023, 11:09:17 pmWhat are you using as a reference point when you say that?

author: Aurgelme
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 01:24:46 am
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 19, 2023, 11:15:59 pmBefore I retired, I used the scope mostly for low frequency, since I was doing repairs on welding equipment and plasma cutters. In the early eighties I had to build a storage device that used the 2 channels on the tektronix to draw curves. Capturing the disturbances and getting them stored for analysis was not easy, but it was achieved after much trial and error. Since then I have wanted a fast storage scope.I'm not so sure that I need a scope of over 100 MHz today, but maybe in the future.Now there are mostly esp32 circuits with various sensors and can-bus, for use in my mobile camper, as well as some transmitters and receivers in the 433mHz band and LoRa nRF24L01P on the 2.4GHz band.

author: skander36
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 07:27:15 am
content: Quote from: Martin72 on June 19, 2023, 11:24:00 pmReally ...?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 08:30:50 am
content: Quote from: skander36 on June 19, 2023, 11:10:22 pmThat sounds loud but without knowing how far and from what angle the measurement is made, it is hard to judge. Still it seems the fans are running at full speed where I expect MicSig to be using temperature controlled fans (just like in the TO1004 I have). Have you contacted MicSig about this? I can't imagine they release an oscilloscope that is so loud as they got quite a bit of flack for the fans they used in the TO1004 being noisy from time to time.

author: skander36
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 11:12:11 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on June 20, 2023, 08:30:50 amIt is loud wherever is placed. I have contacted vendor (Batronix) and they confirmed that all are making same noise. They offer me to return and get money back. I keept it just because I need a portable 4 channel scope that do CAN/LIN decoding.It has two fans, and the second is the noisier. It start with the scope and is not modify his speed anytime so I don't think is temp. driven.For the OP: A user which has TO2004 (which has the same hardware) say that it's scope doesn't make this sound which mean that 200MHz version does not need this level of cooling. As you say that you will not need a scope over 100 MHz, this model can be a choice if you like Micsig.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 07:18:43 pm
content: Quote from: Aurgelme on June 19, 2023, 08:34:59 pmIt wasn't meant to make you feel unwelcome, it just seems like every other day there's yet another thread about "what oscilloscope should I buy" and every time these threads repeat previous threads with exactly the same discussion so I see them and think "here we go again". The same discussions with the same points happens over and over and over again in dozens of threads.

author: BillyO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 09:23:51 pm
content: The MicSig has being compact and portable going for it. That will always come a with cost, and not always in $$. However, if that is important to your use case, then likely you won't mind giving up the clear benefits of the Siglent WRT to generally better bench scope specifications.BTW, you can always equip any scope with active probes. Tektronix make a power supply for just that purpose, that will work with their "Tekconnect" active probes of which their is a pretty good selection. You can get the power supply and a couple of probes in very good condition on the used market for less than the price of a typical new active probe.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 09:59:35 pm
content: Quote from: BillyO on June 20, 2023, 09:23:51 pmPlus the awesome user interface.

author: BillyO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 10:01:46 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 20, 2023, 09:59:35 pmI'll have to take your word for that. No hands-on experience here.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 10:31:45 pm
content: Quote from: BillyO on June 20, 2023, 10:01:46 pmTouch screen is a killer feature for any UI with a lot of sub-options.You can also plug in a mouse if you want pixel-perfect control.

author: BillyO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2023, 10:33:32 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 20, 2023, 10:31:45 pmGood stuffThe Siglent has all that too. Plus regular controls, plus web interface.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 12:40:39 am
content: To each their own, but I really hate touchscreens, I tolerate them on phones because it's the only practical interface for a pocket sized device, but for a scope physical controls are a must IMO.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 12:46:52 am
content: Quote from: james_s on June 21, 2023, 12:40:39 amNot an issue when/if you can use a mouse.Once I had similar views but experience has shown me otherwise.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 12:59:36 am
content: Last thing I want to do is drag a mouse around with my scope and find a spot on the bench to use it. I like using knobs and buttons, they work great, not interested in reinventing the wheel.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 01:01:50 am
content: Quote from: james_s on June 21, 2023, 12:59:36 amI agree, there is a right balance between the amount of physical control/s and other UI methods.Touch is here to stay.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 08:07:45 am
content: Quote from: james_s on June 21, 2023, 12:40:39 amNever used one, right?How long does it take you to turn on two measurements on two channels? (four measurements total)Here's me on my Micsig:

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 11:15:25 am
content: Quote from: BillyO on June 20, 2023, 10:33:32 pmMicsig has all that, too.Plus they have built-in WiFi and FTP server so you can access screenshots and things very easily, no USB sticks needed.

author: BillyO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 01:52:45 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 21, 2023, 11:15:25 amYours might, but no sure about the one the OP mentioned (TO3004).Quote from: FungusPffft .. you can set up the SDS2000x+ to save screenshots and other files directly to a share on your network. Plus work at 500+++ MHz.

author: skander36
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 09:18:56 pm
content: Quote from: BillyO on June 21, 2023, 01:52:45 pmRight. Only touch UI is not so comfy for me. I've had Micsig STC1152, same combination as Fungus show: touch + knobs. It's a perfect balanced for a scope.Only touch make me miss knobs. Touching repeatedly for increasing a parameter is not so ergonomics as rotating a knob, where you have that wellknown feeling. For a guy that all his life has handled knobs (not me), full touch UI can be overhelming at least for a while.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 09:44:06 pm
content: Quote from: skander36 on June 21, 2023, 09:18:56 pmMicsigs have lots of hidden tricks in the UI.eg. For Horizontal timebase you can touch the number at the bottom and it brings up a panel of timebase values that you canslide your finger around onto set the value - no multiple taps required.Probably not many people found that one... I'll make a video tomorrow.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 09:56:26 pm
content: QuoteSeveral years ago, we had exactly this feeling at work - Now....Everyone is irritating when using an old scope and try to change something by touching the screen.

author: BillyO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 10:04:33 pm
content: The touch/mouse is easy to get used too. I use all 3 on the SDS2000X+. Each function has it's best UI method. When I go to the the SDS1000XE I often find myself touching the screen or reaching for a mouse.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 10:07:45 pm
content: One of the main advantages of a touch screen is compacting / stretching the waveforms and slide left /right quickly using fingers. Way faster than using the knobs. I'm still doing that too little though. Old habbits. OTOH I keep on touching the screen on non-touchscreen test equipment assuming it has a touch screen. I find a touch screen very easy to get used to IF the UI has been designed for a touchscreen. On my Lecroy Wavepro the touchscreen is horrible to use for some things like selecting a measurement.

author: skander36
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 10:18:14 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 21, 2023, 09:44:06 pmI know about them, they are in the manual but still the same feeling ...

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 10:24:50 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on June 21, 2023, 10:07:45 pmMicsig doesn't do the pinch-to-zoom for horizontal time base. I assume they tried it and decided not to.I can think of a couple of reasons why it would be "wrong":a) It seems like it would be un-ergonomic on a vertical surface.b) The horizontal also goes in 1/2/5 steps and pinch-zoom is a continuous "analog" input so it doesn't really fit.I'm curious if people with pinch-zoom 'scopes ever use that feature?PS: Micsig screensaremulti-touch, they use it for other things in the UI but not horizontal timebase.

author: BillyO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 10:39:38 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 21, 2023, 10:24:50 pmTried it, but the knobs are right there so usually just reach for them. That's one aspect I guess is more "knob friendly" for me.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 11:09:45 pm
content: Quote from: BillyO on June 21, 2023, 10:39:38 pmExcept when the encoder 1,2,5 steps aren't a good fit for the waveform/display.Then pinch/zoom for both vertical and horizontal is the best solution.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 11:13:20 pm
content: I'd expect that when arbitraty t/div v/div settings are supported through the touchscreen, these are also supported through the knobs (if present).

author: BillyO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 11:15:05 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on June 21, 2023, 11:09:45 pmFine > twist. Done.I do use touch, but it does just seem that for this specific purpose I get along better with the knobs.I should mention that my "touch" is atypical. It's okay for pecking at things, but for sweeps and other motions, I (naturally) suck. Using a touchpad on a laptop is almost a soul destroying experience for me. I have no idea what the problem is. When I buy a laptop I have to either carry a mouse or fork over the XXX$$$ dinero for a pro-level Lenovo. I usually do both. Sad thing is Lenovo seem to be moving away from their awesome trackpoint. My last one was a T480 and it's starting to show it's age.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2023, 11:18:54 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on June 21, 2023, 11:13:20 pmFine V/div is std on most scopes of all ages however variable s/div is uncommon these days.Touch pinch/zoom provides that.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2023, 07:56:15 am
content: Quote from: skander36 on June 21, 2023, 10:18:14 pmThe manual says:"Method 2: Time Base KnobTap to open the time base list (see Figure 4-4 Horizontal Time Base List), then tap the list to select theappropriate time base. The time base with the blue filled background is the currently selected time base."There's nothing there about being able to slide your finger around the list and there's probably people who haven't found it:nb. I'm not saying it's a substitute for the knob, only that touchscreen-only Micsig ownersaren'tforced to sit there hitting the timebase buttons dozens of times every time they want to change the horizontal scale.People with knobs get to choose.

author: skander36
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2023, 08:36:47 am
content: "People with knobs get to choose."Yeah this was the ideea: don't go from an old Tek full of knobs and switches to a full touch UI.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2023, 09:05:21 am
content: Quote from: skander36 on June 22, 2023, 08:36:47 amI think the lack of knobs/buttons was scaring people off. I know it made me nervous when choosing. After using it for a while I could probably remove half the buttons and a couple of the knobs with no loss at all.I have to wonder about the wisdom of making theirnew large screen modelsknobless. They'll be usable without them, but...

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2023, 09:25:37 am
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 22, 2023, 09:05:21 amProbably it is mostly the 'nervous' part. I have a higher end function generator from Tektronix with a real touchscreen UI and the only knobs I use are the power switch, the rotary dial (rarely though) and channel 1 & 2 enable buttons. The latter mainly due to the fact that these don't have easely reachable touchscreen equivalents. For the rest, the touchscreen is just easier.

author: skander36
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2023, 10:07:50 am
content: I am a promoter of a modern UI including touch. Wherever I have worked I have encouraged and favoured those type of UI, but this scope make me to think about his perception to the user. When I had STC1152 I did not realized the problem. Having knobs on side was handy.Also as Fungus said, vertical position of the touchscreen is not very handy for pinch&zoom gesture for ex. and this apply to all scopes with touch UI.But we are slipped to touch UI discussions and@Aurgelmemaybe is not interested about. Maybe he just want to wake our interest on new Rigol scopes (HDO800 & 900) ... who knows

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2023, 02:26:15 am
content: Quote from: skander36 on June 22, 2023, 10:07:50 amHave I mentioned that Micsigs can browse the EEVBLOG forums, view PDFs, watch Youtube, play back videos from USB sticks...

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2023, 06:51:22 am
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 23, 2023, 02:26:15 amBus still no basic statistics on measurements....

author: skander36
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2023, 07:36:55 am
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on June 23, 2023, 06:51:22 amHi 2N3055!TO series which OP is pursuing has statistics.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2023, 08:54:04 am
content: Quote from: skander36 on June 23, 2023, 07:36:55 amGreat... Now they should port it back to all the 2000 and 1000 devices... Even DS1054Z has statistics (and decent one too).At first I liked that Miscig "out of the box" thinking and company being something different. And then they came out with a (to me) perfect format of tablet + "real buttons". And after just 2 years, abandoned it completely and came out with PlayStation controller.And now scopes with proprietary connectors...They seem to behave as if scopes are consumer electronics gadgets...I bought STO1104C, like it for what it is, but would not buy anymore from them. I cannot agree with their direction.... I cannot really figure it out what it is... They just seem to be constantly experimenting..I would not give 1000 € for that Micsig. It is seriously outmatched by number of Rigol and Siglent scopes at roughly that price range.. It's only plus is size.

author: Aurgelme
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2023, 03:41:26 pm
content: After a few weeks holiday I read through the thread, and there are many good posts with good explanations and a lot of humor. It also looks like the choices most people make are what they are used to when choosing a scope.I'm used to switches, so I changed my mind and bought a cheap Siglent sds1202x-e, to test whether this scope suits me.If I like this, it will be a Siglent SDS2104X HD later this autumn, if no one advises me against buying this.

author: KungFuJosh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2023, 03:51:17 pm
content: Quote from: Aurgelme on July 24, 2023, 03:41:26 pmThat's a wonderful scope, and if I could afford it (or actually needed something better than my SDS2504X+), I'd get it.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2023, 04:52:15 pm
content: QuoteHD owners wouldn´t do that...

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2023, 05:43:00 pm
content: Quote from: Aurgelme on July 24, 2023, 03:41:26 pmThere's some new Rigols on the horizon:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigols-new-dho800-oscilloscope-unbox-teardown/12-bit resolution and next-gen user interface. They're a mini version of this one (which is also worth considering):Once you've gone touch screen there's no going back...

author: Domitronic
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2023, 07:12:12 pm
content: Quote from: Aurgelme on July 24, 2023, 03:41:26 pmI would not advise against the SDS2104X HD. But if you are not in a hurry you might also consider the upcoming SDS1000X HD series. At least check if the additional features of the 2000 HD are worth the additional price over the 1000 HD for you.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2023, 08:12:06 pm
content: Quote from: Aurgelme on July 24, 2023, 03:41:26 pmGood basic DSOQuoteCompared to a 2ch X-E the difference is like night and day !Quite different UI's and HD uses multiplexed vertical controls and has so so many more features I could write a small book about them.....There are few similarities other than branding, SDS2000X HD is a premium product at its price point.

author: Aurgelme
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2023, 08:45:07 pm
content: Quote from: Domitronic on July 24, 2023, 07:12:12 pmI have seen that it will be on the market in Europe later in the autumn, so I will consider it then.Found this info on a Chinese site, oh it looks pretty promisinghttp://www.lxzccs.com/product/show-311.html

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2023, 09:01:36 pm
content: We have a thread on 1000X HD here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1000x-hd-coming/

author: ElectronMan
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2023, 06:49:40 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on June 23, 2023, 03:17:50 amThat's nothing. How about a game of Peg solitaire?

author: KungFuJosh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2023, 07:58:15 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on June 23, 2023, 03:17:50 amThat screenshot is the first thing that made me want one of those. Can we play gomoku on any other Siglent gear? Add that to the firmware update requests!

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2023, 08:11:47 pm
content: Quote from: KungFuJosh on July 25, 2023, 07:58:15 pmFunny you ask.I did too on the Siglent private forum and was greeted with a great big!

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2023, 10:36:26 pm
content: QuoteI´ll buy a SDS7000 and install Far Cry on it....

author: BillyO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2023, 10:38:32 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on July 25, 2023, 10:36:26 pmWill that run on an i3?

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2023, 10:40:42 pm
content: My favourite Far Cry (the first and best part) for sure...If not, well I´ll take an i5..

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2023, 10:55:20 pm
content: Quote from: ElectronMan on July 25, 2023, 06:49:40 pmMeh.Get a Micsig, You can surf the web, watch youtube, post in EEVBLOG forums, read PDFs, play videos from a pendrive, run office apps ... and no hacking needed.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2023, 11:12:05 pm
content: That's what it's for, measuring with it is a nice side effect.SCNR

author: ElectronMan
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2023, 12:53:09 am
content: Quote from: Fungus on July 25, 2023, 10:55:20 pmDon't miss the forest for the trees. A lot of seemingly useless endeavors are just parts of a more useful process.