FS Pick and Place Quad IV-C 4000C system with tons of feeders - Page 1
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author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2024, 04:32:48 am
content: The time has finally come where I need to let go of my pick and place system. I am moving and will not have room for it anymore.I will update this with more details, but will start with the basics.Quad 4000C with PPM control upgrade to Windows OS.225+ feedersMany spare partsCurrently in-use and can be seen in southern California.142 - 8mm standard feeders18 - 8mm precision feeders30 - 12mm feeders28 - 16mm feeders12 - 24mm feeders2 - Vibe feeders (4x lanes on each)Custom CNC machined adjustable strip feedersMany nozzles and 3 position nozzle changersThe majority of the feeders are in good shape, but they all require regular maintenance. Typically the OEM peel rollers need replacement, but 3D printing them yourself is the best option.3600CPH rated, but don't expect any P&P to run at its rating. 2000CPH is what I use for planning, but can be faster if you optimize. The best thing about this system is the flying alignment system. It uses a head mounted line scan camera to identify and orient the part while it is traveling from the pickup location to the placement. This is a huge speed boost since the up facing camera is rarely used. Even QFP's, QFN's and many other parts simply don't need the camera.This is a commercial machine that uses a lot of off-the-shelf parts, making it practical to maintain. PPM still supports these systems. For the time that I have owned it, the primary use was prototyping and small batch production. That is why I have so many feeders. Having a ton of feeders allows a number of jobs to be setup at the same time.I can answer any questions and will try to post some videos as well.This is being sold as a system, not being parted out. I will not be selling feeders or other parts separately.At the moment, this is the only place it is listed.Priced to sell at $12,500 USD plus logistics for everything.

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2024, 05:14:33 am
content: I remember your adventures getting set up...https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/finally-have-a-pick-and-place-on-the-way-quad-ivc/?all

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2024, 05:29:19 am
content: Quote from: Smokey on September 19, 2024, 05:14:33 amYes!! It was a really run project getting this thing up to speed. Since then, a lot of additions.

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2024, 02:30:51 am
content: First pick test video.......https://youtu.be/UUNqsSLVtf0

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2024, 05:09:33 pm
content: A few images of the custom designed and CNC machined strip feeders and single PCB carrriers.This is what allowed me to deal with prototypes and low-volume production needs easily.The regular feeders are great for high volume, but when you only have short strips and no spare parts - this is the way.

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2024, 05:18:51 pm
content: Video clip from yesterdays PCB production......https://youtu.be/5T5M1-iu7n4

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2025, 06:42:22 pm
content: UPDATE:I don't really have the time to market this system, so willing to take offers here to avoid having to go through brokers.Make an offer. Let me know what this pick-and-place system is worth to you. Hoping it can help someone get a new biz off the ground like it did for me or add to existing capabilities for an existing shop.For me, it has been at my home shop most of the time. Having PCB assembly at home was AWESOME as I was building clients as I could rapid-fire board designs and revisions.If I didn't say it before, I can be available to help train and get you up and running if needed.

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2025, 08:11:25 pm
content: This is up on eBay at bargain basement pricing.The fully functional machine is effectively $1500 and the feeders average $18/ea.Total $5k.All being sold as complete package.

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2025, 06:28:21 pm
content: This system has been sold.