QWave defender - snake oil bullshit overload - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2015, 10:27:33 pm
content: wow.... just wow.....http://quwave.com/defender.htmland in case you weren't paranoid enough...QuoteContributions to buy one for teardown anyone?

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2015, 10:32:44 pm
content: It doesn't matter if 10,000 videos show this to be bullshit, the people buying these will not listen.You can't reason someone out of something they never reasoned themselves in to in the first place.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2015, 10:43:21 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on May 15, 2015, 10:32:44 pmTrue, but it would be fun to see if it actually does nothing, or something just enough to convince idiots who don't know better - my guess is maybe an oscillator or two.Wonder if it's FCC approved. Oh wait, The FFC is a Gov'mnt conspiracy to prevent people selling devices to guard against being tele-whateverd.Rumour has it there's is a top-secret annex to FCC standards covering scalar waves

author: David_AVD
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2015, 10:52:41 pm
content: There's some brazen individuals out there ready to con the ignorant and stupid.Personally I rely on myQlink pendantto ward off such attacks.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2015, 10:57:37 pm
content: oohhh now this is tempting.....http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QuWave-Home-Harmonizer-QWH2-/111651963570?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19fef9c2b2

author: 128er
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2015, 11:11:00 pm
content: Just do it, Mike! Wanna see a video where you rant about this shitP.S.I would donate a few bucks, only to see that. Too many times I want to buy shit like this for tearing it apart. But esoteric/audiophile crap often costs more than some good TM gear. That's not worth it.

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 01:52:00 am
content: It is awful that people sell this shit, when a tinfoil hat is all that's needed.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 02:01:22 am
content: Oh my ...

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 02:13:52 am
content: I know Sol Feggio. He lived 2 houses down in the old neighborhood. His momma made great cannolis

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 02:29:43 am
content: Hey wait a sec - it says:ARE YOU CONSTANTLY BEING:• Treated like a Targeted Individual?• Subject to Remote Brain Manipulation?• Subjected to Electronic Harassment?Does this forum qualify?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 05:50:20 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on May 15, 2015, 10:27:33 pmI suspect you won't find anything the least bit interesting, just some bodged up transmitter of some description.You can't debunk some pseudoscience gadget in any meaningful way that "takes weeks to feel the positive effects", I wouldn't bother.It's like trying to debunk that people can hear god speaking to them.All you can do is laugh at them.

author: Armxnian
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 07:02:43 am
content: Next is a kick starter project that siphons energy from a parallel universe to save money on your electrical bill.

author: Artlav
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 08:19:41 am
content: Quote from: Armxnian on May 16, 2015, 07:02:43 amUntil the inhabitants of that universe invade ours to convince us to cut it off.So buy our alien repellent wave generator TODAY, for only $999.95!

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 09:15:59 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 16, 2015, 05:50:20 amProbably true, but if it turned out to be literally nothing but a LED, it would prove that it's a scam.Not all of their potential customers will be "Believers", they will be people too ignorant to see through their bullshit and/or too desperate to find a solution to whatever they think their problem is. Exposing it might deter at least some of these victims from being conned.I would **Love** to see this lot being shut down by the Feds, though they've been at it so long that I'm sure they've covered themselves well enough to be able to bail out if the shit comes down.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 09:56:58 am
content: These 'manufacturers' prey on the sick of mind. Some poor sods really believe that the 'State' is out to get them and other weird stuff involving EM waves. This is a ready made market for 'magic' black boxes and those who 'invent' them.Taking a positive view on the sad situation though....if you make a black box with simple non-effective contents and then convince a 'sufferer' that it is a special magic solution to all their concerns you may actually benefit them with the Placebo effect. If the 'patient' believes in the cure, positive effects may be experienced by them.The price has to be enough to a) make a massive profit for the seller and b) convince the 'patient' that it costs enough to actually be effective.Its a complex situation where there is little doubt that sick people are being preyed upon, yet weirdly they may also benefit as detailed above.The weak of mind will always be vulnerable to manipulation by others, and I am not talking about some weird Government influences here. If anything can be done to help them then that is OK by me BUT extreme rip off's designed to bleed them dry of cash is a very different matter.Dave says he would just laugh at such people and those who believe in a God speaking to them........ Hmmm that seems just plain mean and not good Karma. Pity thoseyoubelieve to be afflicted, do not mock them eh ? I am Agnostic which means I am open minded on all matters relating to religionOn a lighter note, has anyone else seen the TV series "The IT crowd" episode where the poor lass is given a black box by the geeks and told that it contains the worlds Internet ? Convincing people of something that they cannot prove or see is not that hard if you act with confidenceWorth a look and a laughAurora

author: JBaughb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 10:54:08 am
content: This was my favorite photo from that site. Its their render of what the "remote torturing" software might look likeAlthough looking through the options, one of them is orgasm. I wonder if this is on pirate bay? hmm....

author: JBaughb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 11:03:50 am
content: Ive been going down a rabbit hole of information from this blog. The device claims to make something called Scalar Waves, apparently something discovered in the 1800s, well known by Albert Einstein and Nikola Tesla.According to this site, it also has something to do with FREE ENERGY!!! Everyones favorite topic.http://www.whitetv.se/mind-control-mk-ultra/213-100-years-scalar-waves-conspiracy.html

author: Flump
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 11:03:57 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on May 15, 2015, 10:27:33 pmI will put £10 in the potpeople like these need to be exposed

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 11:07:16 am
content: Microsoft TorturePaint Pro 6.66 (Devil Edition)Their disclaimer says it all.Quote

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 11:33:25 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on May 16, 2015, 09:15:59 amWhich is why my guess is the box actually transmits something, that would likely cover their arse.So if it is empty, you've got them. If not,If it was me, and the box didn't transmit anything, then I'd do a video exposing it, otherwise I'd steer clear, just like I do with testing audiophool myths. Because it can potentially give them ammunition to use out of context.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 11:45:28 am
content: Actually, on 2nd thought, if it does transmit then it might very well need FCC certification which I doubt it has. So could be damned if they do, damned if they don't.If the authorities won't shut them down for a scam, the FCC will more likely happily knock on their door. But if they were smart then it would be some low level thing under the requirements.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 12:01:22 pm
content: Ah - hahaha! I was just looking at the website and got a popup - they have a Mother's day sale!

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 12:24:12 pm
content: I think this can be considered a scam to people with mental illness such as schizophrenia. But wait, that's what most sect-like organizations do too...

author: deephaven
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 12:34:22 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 16, 2015, 11:45:28 amIt could have an internal loop antenna feeding a dummy load, so it wouldn't have illegal tranmissions but still satisfy the unsuspecting that it is doing something. Hang on, why am I taking this so seriously...

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 03:22:19 pm
content: My bet is that this is a LED in a box.Reminds me of this:http://www.dansdata.com/empower.htm

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2015, 06:03:55 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on May 15, 2015, 10:27:33 pmi'm willing to chip in provided you hire an old fashioned steam roller and run over this garbage at the end of the teardown ...

author: iampoor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2015, 04:44:49 am
content: "Unconditional 30 day guarantee.Full refund if you are not 100% satisfied."Maybe it wont cost a penny?