Who's making the economy instruments for the top tier companies? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: metrologist
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2016, 10:56:01 pm
content: I thought I read Rigol is making some either for KeySight (or Agilent) or R&S. Can I get a short list? Was Hameg one of the brands?

author: Vgkid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2016, 11:07:55 pm
content: Siglent is one.

author: Muxr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2016, 11:26:21 pm
content: Quote from: metrologist on August 17, 2016, 10:56:01 pmNo Hameg was a small German company (80 people) that made prosumer level scopes. When Rohde and Schwarz bought them in 2005 they kept them intact, and they now continue to make entry level scopes in the RS lineup (the HMO line)

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2016, 11:40:11 pm
content: Quote from: Vgkid on August 17, 2016, 11:07:55 pmProbably the best known Siglent rebadges are for LeCroy, some of which LeCroy has developed their own FW.

author: Vgkid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 02:31:19 am
content: Picotech.Stumbled upon this:Programmable power -Sorensen/Xantrex.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 03:03:20 am
content: DER EE in Taiwan produces the DE-6000 Handheld LCR Meter for IET Labs.

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 05:36:09 am
content: Quote from: metrologist on August 17, 2016, 10:56:01 pmRigol made some of the bottom of the barrel scopes for Agilent (DSO1000?)Siglent makes LeCroy entry-level scopes (WaveAce) and signal generators (WaveStation), which are all Siglent rebagdes. Siglent also manufactures the SDS3000, a mid-range scope (200Mhz - 1Ghz) which was developed in co-operation with LeCroy (who also provides the software) and which is sold as Siglent in China and as LeCroy WaveSurfer 3000 in the rest of the world.R&S ValueLine is made by Hameg, which as Muxr said was a smaller German manufacturer of entry-level test gear (which was standard equipment in most schools and TV repair shops in Germany) which was bought by R&S and is now making the R&S Value Line Series of entry-level test instruments. While R&S gear is made in Germany, Hameg gear is now made in CZ.Tektronix seems to build their entry-level scopes themselves, although their entry-level AWG (AFG1000) is made by OWON.

author: nfmax
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 06:45:06 am
content: Quote from: Wuerstchenhund on August 18, 2016, 05:36:09 amI had occasion to take a DSO1014A apart, and it was interesting. The processor section was typically Rigol, but the acquisition system used what looked like Agilent proprietary ADCs and control chips (maybe FPGA?). Probably a joint design effort built by Rigol. The firmware update files have the same extensions as Rigol use, I believe.

author: nowlan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 09:42:36 am
content: Tektronix 2110picotest m3500a

author: nowlan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 09:47:08 am
content: Tektronix AFG1022 Function generatorOwen AG102 Function generator

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 10:07:58 am
content: Quote from: nfmax on August 18, 2016, 06:45:06 amNo, that was 100% Rigol, but Keysight helped them with various manufacturing things I believe.And Keysight will not go back to OEMing low cost scopes, they got burned big time.

author: nfmax
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 10:21:02 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 18, 2016, 10:07:58 amInteresting! I wonder if the newer 'B' models in this series are made in-house? They certainly look very different

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 10:51:39 am
content: Interesting to read that Tektronix has worked with Owon aka Lilliput for the signal generator

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 10:55:38 am
content: Quote from: pascal_sweden on August 18, 2016, 10:51:39 amWell, "worked with", it looks like the "co-operation" for the most part consisted of Tektronix just ordering a rebadged device from OWON.

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 10:58:02 am
content: Yes, that is a better formulation. But still it is remarkable that they selected Owon and not Rigol or Siglent for this low-end signal generator.For some reason, Owon aka Lilliput must have impressed them more than the others

author: metrologist
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2016, 05:16:21 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 18, 2016, 10:07:58 amWhat didn't work out?

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 05:53:58 am
content: Quote from: pascal_sweden on August 18, 2016, 10:58:02 amOwon was probably the best choice they had who had not already become the OEM supplier for another major company. People don't like their kit looking like a major competitor's with the competitor's name scribbled out.

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 08:00:43 am
content: Quote from: nowlan on August 18, 2016, 09:42:36 amAre you sure it's not the other way around? (I.e. Picotest rebadges the Keithley 2100 in some non-US markets.)As far as I know, Keithley has never rebadged other maker's DMMs under their brand.Now, Tektronix's 4000 meters *are* rebadges, but from Fluke! The Tek 4020 is a rebadged Fluke 8808A.

author: nowlan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 02:43:17 pm
content: Actually I confused these 2 similar looking chaps.5.5 vs 6.5, might be another model??

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 03:31:31 pm
content: Quote from: nowlan on August 19, 2016, 02:43:17 pmGiven the enclosure is the same, that would be my guess.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 07:00:34 pm
content: Quote from: metrologist on August 18, 2016, 05:16:21 pmBasicallysome companieslearnedsome thingsfrom us and now are much bigger companies.

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 07:11:24 pm
content: Secret blueprints of oscilloscopes and spectrum analyzers

author: Sbampato12
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 07:27:47 pm
content: Quote from: timb on August 19, 2016, 08:00:43 amNot DMM, but Keithley high voltage power supply (5 kV) was identical to Stanford Research PS350. I don't know if they purchased the company or something...

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 07:38:33 pm
content: Quote from: timb on August 19, 2016, 08:00:43 amAre you crazy, which lesser brand will rebadge keythley? They already are too expensive. It's made by Picotest and sold under bunch of other brands besides Keythley too, like this onehttp://prist.ru/produce.php/card/meas.htm?id=-287904064#t=main2100 performance is crap BTW, mostly because of inferior voltage reference used.

author: borjam
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 08:18:00 pm
content: MBAs and their suicidal penchant for outsourcing and short term "gains"...

author: rob77
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2016, 08:24:40 pm
content: Quote from: nanofrog on August 19, 2016, 03:31:31 pmit will be the same, don't be fooled by the 6 1/2 digits of picotest. i was seriously considering to buy the picotest.. 6 1/2 digits for less than 500Eur ? that's a steal right ?... but once you look at the specs... it's not anymorei assume picotest just slightly beefed up the specs of the 5 1/2 digit hardware for keithley and selliing it as 6 1/2 digit.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2016, 11:51:36 pm
content: Quote from: Keysight_DanielBogdanoff on August 19, 2016, 07:00:34 pmVery interesting. Sounds like the automotive industry.