EEVblog push notifications - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Tomorokoshi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 04:22:10 am
content: I get this popup in Firefox.What's the opinion? Good? Bad?

author: gnavigator1007
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 04:24:27 am
content: Related to the new forum alerts system Dave is playing with?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 05:05:07 am
content: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/news/important-new-forum-alerts-system/

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 06:08:36 am
content: Not much doubt what to do here.

author: AntiProtonBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 06:36:19 am
content: Quote from: Tomorokoshi on February 07, 2019, 04:22:10 amGenerally a bad idea. You'd basically allow a website to communicate with your browser even if you closed the session with that site. It's open for abuse and spam. Not implying Dave is doing anything nefarious here, just expressing concern about the whole concept in general.I killed the feature in about:config

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 07:00:00 am
content: me too. I get enough notifications on my phone already, i don't want them on my computer too.also killed the notification center on my mac

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 07:13:45 am
content: I do not want it and will not be using it. Hopefully it will be made not intrusive.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 08:21:15 am
content: Quote from: Bud on February 07, 2019, 07:13:45 amI think you will have to opt-out by editing your profile.Wouldn't you like to know when people quote you? It might be a good way to get "guests" to log on and more actively participate in discussions. I haven't seen a groundswell rising demanding this change so it must be driven by a forum side benefit.

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 08:29:59 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 07, 2019, 08:21:15 amI hate those popups but I cannot find the way to disable it. The popup should have a checkbox "don't show this again".

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 08:32:03 am
content: You can disable here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=alerts;sa=alertssettings

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 08:33:45 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 07, 2019, 08:21:15 amI think that's a cool feature.QuoteI just saw the plugin and thought it sounded good so installed it. If you don't like it you can disable it in your profile.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 08:36:29 am
content: Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on February 07, 2019, 06:36:19 amDid you set "permissions.default.desktop-notification" to "2" as discussed herehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1421040or did you set "dom.webnotifications.enabled" to false as discussed herehttps://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1193258or something else?I am not sure of the difference.I also found the hanger popup in FF has a down arrow to reveal a website specific block.Some websites are annoying in requesting location (are you listening Bunnings)

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 08:41:39 am
content: Not allowed - hate push notifications with a passion.BTW did you use this one from VBGAMER45 whos mods I trusthttps://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=4202or an external addon? Who is getting what information from this?EDIT just read the thread you startedSMF 2.1 will have it in the core when released but still needs to be user allowed or dis allowed IMO.

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 09:43:54 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2019, 08:32:03 amI have everything unchecked and yet I still get the popup with every page I open. I cannot see anything specific for the push notifications.I do not think it would make a difference to the choices I get in the alerts notifications page but just in case I'll say I am using Firefox.

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 09:49:25 am
content: Click this symbol beside the logo as per the photo below should get you the enable/disable option. Edit interesting issue @soldar possible cookie not being cleared or reset after you changed something?This is vbgamer's mod just from his PAID site for the open Source Software of SMF.

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 09:54:02 am
content: Quote from: beanflying on February 07, 2019, 09:49:25 amThanks and yes, that is the page where I have everything unchecked but I keep getting the popup with every page asking me if I want popups. No, I don't, I hate them.Just to be clear we are talking about the same thing. I want to disable the popup in this capture:

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 10:00:13 am
content: That one is actually a Firefox/Chrome (depending on browser) setting not a Forum setting. So unticking the boxes in the forum won't stop it. Click on it should take you to a Browser content blocking page where you can disallow notifications.Depending on what actual code this mod is based on our data is going to a third party serverhttps://cdn.onesignal.com/

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 10:12:07 am
content: Quote from: beanflying on February 07, 2019, 10:00:13 amYes, I have tried configuring Firefox and everything related is disabled but I still get the popup. I guess I'll just have to live with it. Several sites do that to me and I just hate it. "Do you want to share your location?" No, I don't! Every time I open a page. It gets tiring.

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 10:16:30 am
content: I am on Firefox. Go to 'about:preferences#privacy' (put it in the address bar should take you there) and block popup windows and allow any exceptions you want to.

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 10:29:15 am
content: Quote from: beanflying on February 07, 2019, 10:16:30 amBlock popup windows was already checked but I still get that stupid thing. I guess it blocks popups from the internet but it does not consider its own popup asking me if I want popups.

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 10:34:37 am
content: I give upI am running Adblock Plus which may be doing the blocking in my case?Selectively clear any cookies to do with onesignal.com I have 6 on my list of cookies

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 10:51:49 am
content: Quote from: beanflying on February 07, 2019, 10:34:37 amYeah, probably the adblock is doing it. It seems the website is asking the browser and the browser asks the user every time. There are a few other websites that do it, mostly asking to share my location. Very annoying.

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 10:55:18 am
content: Even though I have it disabled and blocked it is still triggering every 10 seconds as per the heartbeat Dave has set. Won't add a lot of load to the EEVblog server but it is still a load increase.

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 11:02:24 am
content: I notice it only pops up if I am logged in. If I am not logged in it does not do it so I might remain logged out just for reading and only log in if I want to post.Other sites will pop up even when I am not logged in. Very annoying.I have blocked onesignal.com in my hosts file but it makes no difference.So, it is sent by the server. There should be the possibility of disabling it in the server preferences but it seems not possible. And it should be possible to block it in the browser but it also seems not possible. Every. Single. Page. Annoying and frustrating. It would not be so bad if it asked only once per session.

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 11:37:44 am
content: OK, I think I found the way to do it. Fromhttps://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-notifications-chrome-firefox-safari/QuoteIt seems to be working for me.

author: AntiProtonBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 12:35:00 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 07, 2019, 08:36:29 amThat's the one i set, from memory. But that was before I upgraded to Firefox Quantum. Things may have changed since then.

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 02:15:53 pm
content: For Firefox, you can click the down arrow on the popup and select never again. Worked fine here on the latest Firefox.Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on February 07, 2019, 06:36:19 amNo. It only works if you have the website still open in a browser window somewhere. If you close them all then you don't get notifications.Apparently you can. That seems like a terrible idea...

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 02:22:01 pm
content: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/push-notifications-firefoxQuote

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 02:34:19 pm
content: I like the notifications on the forum; it is very similar to the Allaboutcircuits forum interface.However, I disabled the notifications on the browser by using the method above. It works like a charm.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 03:01:12 pm
content: I am happy my browser doesn't support this. I can see it might have some use in maybe a corporate setting where they own the computers or some similar situation, but it mostly seems like more "noise pollution".I also found I had to go into my profile and turn it all off because, despite my browser not supporting it, it was changing the favicon to one that looks a lot like some kind of error has occurred (adding what looks like a bright red circle with a white number overlay to the normal one).Also, since last night I've noticed a slight delay, just a few tenths of a second or so, to page loading. It's not much, but noticeable. That could be something else though.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 03:01:30 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 07, 2019, 08:21:15 amYes agree it is driven by the forum at the expense of pissing off a lot of existing users who do not want it.Hell no, i do not want to know when people quote me. Too much of a forum quickly becomes an addiction. I bet those people with 5 digit post counts subscribe to all they can click.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 03:25:56 pm
content: Quote from: Tomorokoshi on February 07, 2019, 04:22:10 amVery bad idea.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 03:53:23 pm
content: As an absolute rule, I never give permission to something that has to ask for it. I do see this permission dialog on an increasing number of sites.

author: KaneTW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 04:18:55 pm
content: I like it. Push notifications, when done right, are a pretty nice feature.

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 04:52:13 pm
content: Quote from: soldar on February 07, 2019, 02:22:01 pmHuh. Learn something new every day. That seems like a really terrible idea.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 04:57:37 pm
content: With very few exceptions I loathe push notifications. There is already far too much noise.

author: TheSteve
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 05:29:39 pm
content: Not a fan.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 09:07:47 pm
content: Just to clarify, in the profile settings are "Alerts" and "Notifications" two different things? (i.e. one is push notification via browser and the other some small reminder icon on the forum page)

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2019, 10:43:01 pm
content: Quote from: soldar on February 07, 2019, 10:12:07 amI am on FF 65 and I found there is a privacy setting for location requests that block the popup. I just tried it on the one that annoys me the most. (Bunnings) and it worked. I think it cam in around FF59 but I didn't take careful note.

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2019, 07:36:22 am
content: To disable location sharing in Firefox go to about:config and setgeo.enabledto false. It seems to work for me.https://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-location-sharing-browsers/