Unusual USB located inside a device and wanting to know its pinouts please - Page 1
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author: paul_b_78
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2023, 07:17:17 pm
content: Hi All,(Before this gets moved to a different category) _ I have a device (PS5 HD Camera) that has gone faulty and I am trouble shooting it to locate its fault, but cant even work out which pin is the +Ve .etc......Inside and mounted to the motherboard is a USB female connector..... but this is no ordinary USB connector as it is the size and shape of a"Micro-B USB, however this has9pins.....but before you reply back with "have you tried theMicro-B 3.0, I can confirm that it is not this shape....I heave searched the internet high and low, also been on USB.org but I cannot find anything resembling this connector.Images of it on here:https://imgur.com/a/obn0n54Anyone able to help me please?

author: jc101
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2023, 07:46:13 pm
content: Looks like a Micro-HDMI connector, sure there isn't another row of 10 pins hidden under there somewhere?This looks like the same dimensions etc.https://www.we-online.com/components/products/datasheet/685119248123.pdfedit: with updated pin count and link.

author: JustMeHere
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2023, 10:33:04 pm
content: Quote from: jc101 on July 18, 2023, 07:46:13 pmThe row of traces coming out to the right of the connector suggest there are more pins under there.

author: DavidAlfa
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2023, 10:46:36 pm
content: Seems a connector carrying USB 3.0 signals? (Or HDMI)https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/kw1xgl/psa_custom_ps4_camera_adapters_work_on_ps5/https://preview.redd.it/wc5xtx3zuuv21.jpg?width=6952&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c1cc38442930ef348c7be5e0acf823fef3df1b0

author: paul_b_78
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2023, 08:21:18 pm
content: @jc101 - definitely only one row of 9 connectors - See additional image displaying cable (male) end@JustMeHere - the traces coming out of the right... from what I can see with the scope go underneath the connector and dog leg up to the 9 pins situated to the rear of the connector mounted to the board.@DavidAlfa - looked at that link, thought you hit the nail on the head... sadly that connector has 7 pins not 9 pinsSo if this is carrying USB 3.0 signal would you happen to have the pin out for this?

author: DavidAlfa
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2023, 09:28:01 pm
content: The RTS5482 seems a USB hub so it might be USB 3.0 after all.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2023, 11:20:14 pm
content: The capacitors on one of the differential lines match typical USB3 design. The pinout should be easy to figure out. From top to bottom: ground, diff pair, ground, diff pair, VBUS, one more pair (unused USB2?). The exact pinout could be traced from the differential pairs either visually or using a multimeter.The connector is clearly not standard, so who knows the exact type. Might be proprietary too.

author: paul_b_78
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2023, 02:55:01 pm
content: @ataradov - The IC mounted to this board is not an RTS5482 .... in fact I havent a clue what this IC is because as usual Sony have this IC datasheet locked under a lock and key.Although the board does have a Common Mode Filter similar to the one in the images you provided, so this is almost identical to what I have a problem with.I will try your advice in regards to differential pair tracing etc.

author: Ian.M
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2023, 04:02:48 pm
content: Its very common for compact consumer cameras/camcorders to use a proprietary connector to carry analog video (+audio) or HDMI in addition to USB. Only the original cables supplied with the camera are certain to work, as different makes/models that happen to utilise the same connector may well have different pinouts.Even if you identify the connector and its pinout, is it going to do you any good for anything except one-off data recovery? I'd bet against a rewirable mating plug being available - if you manage to identify the connector and find a supplier, odds are the only plug available that's cheaper than the camera will be designed for injection overmolding, so expect to have to design a 3D printed shell and cord grip and glue it on!

author: paul_b_78
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2023, 10:31:04 pm
content: @Ian.M - appreciate your advice and with that in mind will most likely put this one to sleep.It powers on, but just the USB when plugged into the Playstation do not recognise the camera part.I had a friend tell me that I can test it on a laptop using a special driver installed on my laptop, but it still comes up saying "USB is not recognised" - and does not appear as a device within the Device Manager.