Help TDS7104 identify embedded lan  - Page 1
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author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 01:26:05 pm
content: hi , got recently this tds7104 apparently look fine but till now no chance to see it runningbecause lack od hd and cd , just installed an 2,5 ide formatted hd , dont have cd reader with slimjae adapter at this time , so i tried to boot via pxe network and everything working fine except windows 2000 setupstop due lacking NIC driver , tried many drivers downoaded in $OEM but seems no one workinghope someone identify the correct drivers and point where download thanks so much.

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 01:45:17 pm
content: It's Intel 559

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 02:14:46 pm
content: Its bg82559 not BD , downloaded from intel ..PRO100 drivers for this chipset but wont load them ..maybe bootp server misconfigured

author: new299
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 04:57:08 pm
content: I don't know what kind of Ethernet chip is uses I'm afraid but I have access to a TDS7054 in Japan and can check next time I'm there. I think I have the original install discs here and will check those. If you're repairing the scope I wrote up my repair notes here:http://41j.com/blog/2014/08/tektronix-tds7054-repair/

author: lukier
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 05:06:34 pm
content: Quote from: new299 on August 30, 2015, 04:57:08 pmThat is pretty awesome. Especially the part when you say you got TDS7054 for $200How come, if you don't mind? I wish I could get working/repairable TDS5k/7k even for three times more

author: Smith
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 05:24:02 pm
content: Did you set the BIOS LAN setting right? My TDS7154 has one. Copied from the Tek website, saves me taking a look because I'm lazy.How do I Enable or Disable the LAN and connect a TDS5000(B)+ TDS6000(B) or TDS7000(B) Series oscilloscope to the Network?Answer:You can connect the scope to a network to enable printing, file sharing, internet access, and other communications functions. Before you make the connection, do the following steps to enable (the default) network access to the Oscilloscope:1. Begin with the scope power off2. Attach a PS2 keyboard and mouse to the scope3. Power up the scope4. As the scope begins to boot, press the keyboard F2 key repeatedly until the message Entering Setup, or Loading Setup on some Oscilloscopes appears5. Use the keyboard right arrow key to highlight Advanced6. Use the keyboard down arrow key to highlight Peripheral Configuration and press Enter7. Use the keyboard down arrow key to highlight LAN Device and press Enter8. Use the keyboard Up/Down arrow key to highlight Enabled and press Enter9. Press the keyboard F10 key to save, and exit10. Once the Oscilloscope has completed auto boot up minimize the scope application using TekScope File menu Minimize or (right-mouse-click Minimize on some scopes) to access the Window desktop.11. Use the Windows network setup utility to define the Oscilloscope as a network client and configure it for your network. You can find the network setup utility in the Windows Start menu if you select Settings > Control Panel and then double-click Network.12. Consult your network administrator for specific instructions to make these settings.

author: new299
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 05:37:37 pm
content: Quote from: lukier on August 30, 2015, 05:06:34 pmIf you look around, faulty test equipment can be very cheap in Japan. That one I picked up in Akihabara (Keisokuki land). I also got a TDS5052 for the same price there.Shipping scopes out of Japan on the other hand is a major pain. There's some export rule which says you can't ship scopes with a bandwidth over some insane value, I think 100GHz from memory. That's fine, but the result is that /every/ scope shipped requires a "parameter sheet" from the manufacturer. So you need to ring Tektronix, give them the serial number and wait a week to get the parameter sheet... sigh...That could go some way to explaining the lower value of broken test equipment as sales are limited to internal markets only for the most part.

author: lukier
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 05:48:45 pm
content: Quote from: new299 on August 30, 2015, 05:37:37 pmInteresting. I've read about awesome bargains if you are in Silicon Valley (and USA in general to some extent), I see quite a bit of T&M gear from Israel on eBay (and often in a horrible state) but I didn't know about Japan.I suppose you've paid more for the paperwork and shipping than for the scopeUnfortunately, in the UK / EU it is somehow very tricky to get such sweet deals. I check eBay frequently and it is mostly PAT testers and metal detectorsThere are some professional traders with insane prices. The notable exceptions are KJDS and TopLoserWith my kind of income I could perhaps gamble $200 on a "parts/repair" state TDS5k/7k (the worst case is that the aquisition board is fried and the game is over), but not much more, too risky.

author: new299
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 06:21:59 pm
content: Quote from: lukier on August 30, 2015, 05:48:45 pmPaperwork was free, just time consuming and as I don't speak Japanese very well involved hassling my wife a lot.I'm back in the UK. eBay is pretty much useless as far as I can tell. However I've got some nice gear at auction here. Check the Equipnet auctions. I picked up some R&S CTRUs which make reasonable spectrum analyzers for about 100GBP and on the scientific side of things some nice lab equipment too.

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2015, 08:52:29 pm
content: just very near to complete ..for the moments hangs on splash screen , but atleast completed the pxe boot configuration , work in progress

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2015, 10:13:50 am
content: ..installing , the problem installation stuck at splash was the permission to read files from shared folder , applied correctly created Null Session Share WIA_RIS_SHAREfixed and running , software used: SERVA 64bit non-commercial version acting as dhcp-tftpd server , i guess the original os was win98.

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2015, 12:09:30 pm
content: ok everything installed and seems there no problems with boards+drivers but it stuck at tekscope start splash and the displayon ppc board looping ,, 4-5-6-7-8-A-H-L ..here starts the troubles?

author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 31, 2015, 12:46:00 pm
content: All you need is here. you have to re-enter the boot parameters in the PPC board if your battery is dead:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-csa7404-repair-project/Jay

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2015, 02:15:36 pm
content: Yes thanks , i checked battery before was 2,98V maybe disconnecting the cap i have erased all stored data?anyway i am preparing connector cable for tht j790 but at the moment i am confused about what to send in the terminal

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2015, 03:46:39 pm
content: did what TiNsuggestingabout vxWorks but something still wronghes scope is csa my is td7104this the terminal log:Quoteneed different parameters? herad some relays clicking but splash still stuck and ldisplay showing blinking minus -

author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 31, 2015, 05:39:41 pm
content: Try programming it with this one I got from a working TDS7104:boot device : smprocessor number : 0file name : c:/vxboot/vxWorks.stinet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.1:ffffff00host inet (h) : 192.168.0.2gateway inet (g) : 192.168.0.1flags (f) : 0x1008target name (tn) : tds7000startup script (s) : c:/vxboot/topScript.hw

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2015, 08:07:17 pm
content: with this parameter was able to run tekscope but still problems , look at pics center of screenis black cant view channel signals , dont have installed 3d rage agp 2x drivers because cannot find them for win2kdo you think is that the problem or ati chipset is only for external monitor? ,then second picture there no option installed or scope serial i tried to boot once with parameterNvramClearDb = 1 enabled but i see log everything failed about restore because looking for constantcals and install disk files

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2015, 11:43:15 pm
content: You really need to install the OS the scope software is designed for. The videocard needs the Tektronix drivers (usually included somewhere in the software package you can download from Tektronix) because it is not a standard videocard. The scope signals are drawn onto the screen using some kind of overlay which goes around Windows.

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2015, 05:44:15 am
content: tought only chip69000 is working with instrument panel not interacting with rage 3dif someone has this drivers pls share them.

author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 01, 2015, 10:01:33 am
content: Quote from: Daxxin on September 01, 2015, 05:44:15 amWhat is the serial # of the scope? I do have some ghost images for these. Also, where are you located?Jay

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2015, 10:27:19 am
content: sent you pm anyway serial is B020764 .Italy.

author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 01, 2015, 05:54:21 pm
content: Quote from: Daxxin on September 01, 2015, 10:27:19 amI just sent you the link for a working image taken from B020612. Please let me know how it goes!Don't forget to use ANOTHER disk drive!Jay

author: Daxxin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2015, 09:12:49 am
content: its working!Thanks to Jawalling for his big help and hints , thanks to TiN for his useful info.just need to reassemble the cabinet.

author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 02, 2015, 09:58:00 am
content: Excellent and you're very welcome!Enjoy the scope!Jay

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 14, 2015, 05:10:01 pm
content: Great.Jwalling, I can host image as well to make it easier for others in future, if you want to have it pub.

author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 14, 2015, 05:16:33 pm
content: Quote from: TiN on September 14, 2015, 05:10:01 pmHi Tin,I will send you a PM for the download link. Comcast is deleting our webspace very soon (that way they can charge us more while giving us less), so get while you can!Thanks.Jay

author: chjensen
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 23, 2017, 10:55:02 pm
content: Hi.Is it possible for you, to create an image for my scope also./Christian