New Speedtrap In The UK ? - Page 1
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author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2012, 10:06:25 am
content: looks like a pasty......

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2012, 10:08:12 am
content: Most likely a vehicle counter?Alexander.

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2012, 10:11:15 am
content: yeah certainly doesn't look like a speed measuring device

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2012, 10:25:20 am
content: As Han Solo said "Doesn't look very friendly, what ever it is.."Hope it doesn't morph into this:

author: Stephen Hill
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2012, 11:22:46 am
content: So I did some Googling and it appears that this image has been making it's way around the internet from at least 2007:http://www.litkefamily.de/technik/neues-blitzersystem/I've also read news articles from 5 different countries (using the same image) telling motorists that these will be implemented soon.As far as I can tell, there is no source for the image, nor is there any factual information about the device.All the images I've found are of low quality and could quite possibly be photoshoped. There are also some visual discrepancies which makes my suspicious of it's authenticity.This leads me to say that people really should research stuff posted on the internet.

author: M0BSW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2012, 04:17:32 pm
content: By law they have to let you know they are there, and have speed camera signs up at their location.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2012, 05:09:27 pm
content: I think that it is a visibility sensor.

author: M0BSW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2012, 07:11:22 pm
content: Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on November 07, 2012, 10:25:20 amI could imagine something like this in America

author: Zad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2012, 08:41:04 pm
content: It is in Switzerland. Often does the rounds here in the UK among Daily Mail / Daily Express people who enjoy getting outraged before chacking facts.http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/26/2641.asphttp://www.pocketgpsworld.com/New-UK-speed-camera-scare-story-hoax-is-spreading-9412.phphttps://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Route+de+Genolier,+Duillier,+Nyon,+Switzerland&hl=en&ll=46.414029,6.233776&spn=0.008033,0.021136&sll=46.364758,6.219807&sspn=0.032161,0.084543&oq=Nyon+Route+de+gen&t=h&hnear=Route+de+Genolier,+1266+Duillier,+Vaud,+Switzerland&z=16&layer=c&cbll=46.413948,6.233616&panoid=4-o5qnIDRDxOF-eotQk-3w&cbp=12,304.53,,1,10.39

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2012, 06:53:26 am
content: A pity, I am all for hidden camera's providing the law is altered to suit. Anyone found driving 10 mph over the limit gets a lengthy driving ban ! I'm sick of the "camera dodging" culture here. People know where they are and slow down especially and then speed off at stupid speeds, I've been overtaken by cars doing at least 60 mph in a 30 zone as I was sticking to the law, that very road is a speed camera zone but you can see the police van a mile off when it is there.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2012, 10:21:53 am
content: Average speed timing is a better camera. You can enter doing 200, a long as the average for the section is under the limit is fine. Another issue is the local authorities that balance the budget with a speed camera. You have a freeway that is changed to 80 from 120 20km outside the town, with a camera 500m into the 80 section.The USA has states which have deregulated the speed limits on the interstates, and they found that accident rates went down in those areas considerably.

author: Stephen Hill
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2012, 10:53:53 am
content: The only problem I have with speed cameras of any type is that you are looking at your speedometer rather than the road. This is especially true for average speed cameras.I would prefer if police put their effort in to catching dangerous drivers rather than fining people who accidentally do 34mph.

author: Sionyn
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timestamp: November 14, 2012, 12:01:35 pm
content: is there bases to government thinking that speed cams save lives ?after all people usually just slam on the brakes when they see these thingsdriver competence is the problemsure there might accidents were speed might be fact but how many these findings have through peer review ?there of course needs to balance but basing your policy on feelings instead of scientific evidence ?my question is show me the raw data

author: Simon
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timestamp: November 14, 2012, 12:40:47 pm
content: Quote from: Stephen Hill on November 14, 2012, 10:53:53 amthat is why I say, give a 10 mph allowance and then throw the book at anyone going over, You are right, stringent speeding rules mean we look at the speedo more than the road - guilty as charged here too. So a 10mph allowance is plenty, if your doing 40 in a 30 zone you are not competent enough to drive and should be taken off the road.The thing that gets me is the 20mph limit roads, total waste of time, yes at 30mph you have an 80% chance of living and at 40mph a 20% chance of living, but most people speeding are doing 50-70mph pure number crunching is useless

author: Sionyn
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timestamp: November 14, 2012, 12:47:28 pm
content: ive heard 80% chance of living before too but its quite a blanket statement i am sure that not reality far too many variablesdepending on the mass of the car...on the normal car mass, almost no chances of survivalif the car is one kilogram, it would be able to move the child one meter every kilogram of the child in one seconda typical car is more than ten kilo. this means more than ten times of the impact above...

author: Sionyn
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timestamp: November 14, 2012, 12:49:11 pm
content: again were is their data to justify their statement

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2012, 12:50:18 pm
content: depending on the mass of the car...on the normal car mass, almost no chances of survivalif the car is one kilogram, it would be able to move the child one meter every kilogram of the child in one seconda typical car is more than ten kilo. this means more than ten times of the impact above...

author: Stephen Hill
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2012, 12:50:28 pm
content: A friend pointed out to me that last year we had (in the UK) adverts saying "40 Kills, Keep to 30" and now this year we have "30 Kills, Keep to 20".I wonder what they'll tell us next year...

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2012, 12:56:39 pm
content: Quote from: Sionyn on November 14, 2012, 12:47:28 pmmy point exactly, instead of looking at the exact speeds and and statistics we need to be rational. If someone is going to intentionally speed in a 30 zone going at 40+ mph then they should not be allowed to drive full stop. You either abide by the law or get banned, but we should be a little max lax around the specific thresholds for fines. 35mph is not much worse than 30.00001 and even up to 37mph anything over you get a ticket and over 40 you just banned for many years, there is no excuse. That would give people peace of mind and not have them looking at the speedo more than the road, but i forgot, the politicians rule.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2012, 12:57:48 pm
content: Quote from: Stephen Hill on November 14, 2012, 12:50:28 pmto drive backwards