Jingce JC3000 series - Keysight look-alike oscilloscope - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2017, 07:55:11 pm
content: The JC3000 series from Jingce looks a lot like the Keysight InfiniiVision 2000 X-SeriesHere is a link to their website:http://www.hzjingce.com/EN/products.asp?id=6

author: ws2812b
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2017, 08:00:22 pm
content: And the GUI somehow reminds me of Tek.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2017, 08:00:52 pm
content: And it's got a DC power supply built in - wow

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2017, 08:18:08 pm
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on April 16, 2017, 08:00:52 pmInnovation by Jingce!

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2017, 08:20:57 pm
content: "Record Length 24k points on each channel" This is a Hantek/tekway "5072P" in disguise.

author: gslick
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2017, 08:32:36 pm
content: LOL Agilent-like oscilloscope from China, May 18, 2013https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/lol-agilent-like-oscilloscope-from-china/

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2017, 09:48:03 pm
content: I must have missed that.Is there any pricing available on the Internet?It would be cool to know how much the top of the line model with 4 channels costs in that series.Just out of interest of course, in case of any doubt!I wonder how they copy the design. Would they make a mold from an actual shell, or would they use a 3D scanner and clean up the 3D scan, to make all the lines in the 3D wire frame in straight and equal properties.

author: ebclr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 03:06:15 am
content: The problem is that the "chinese feel nice" is totally different from westerns "feel nice", to make a design that western will like, Chinese must use Chinese people who studied abroad and may have some western feeling, If I'm a Chinese company owner, I will never let a Chinese design touch my product, Chinese are good for production, not for design. I would prefer an Italian / German design, with a made in India firmware and Chinese production.

author: ebclr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 03:12:05 am
content: 974 USD in chinaNot clear the versionhttps://world.taobao.com/item/543767121740.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.cQc2jO#detail

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 03:14:20 am
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on April 16, 2017, 08:00:52 pmI second that wow.

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 08:56:21 pm
content: It would be interesting to learn what these fancy Chinese text balloons are saying in the advertFor the native Chinese speakers here. Feel free to provide an accurate translation

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 10:00:30 pm
content: I suspect a lot of Chinese equipment will get really good once they figure out that quality and consistency along with honest specs matters. There is quite a lot of stuff out there that could be quite good if it was made perhaps 20% better at which point it would be a bargain even if it cost 50% more. Make it too cheap and junky and it's not a good deal no matter how cheap it is. I personally put a lot of value on honest specs, if a piece of test gear is good to 100MHz, call it a 100MHz unit, don't call it 500MHz and say it's a good deal even if it only does 100MHz.It's quite possible that they'll get the hang of it and China could become what Japan was from the late 70s up through the early 90s. For decades Japan was synonymous with cheap poorly made junk the way China is now, but then something changed and they started producing top notch stuff. It's obvious that the Chinese can produce very good stuff when they want to, but there seems to be a culture of cutting every corner possible in order to achieve the absolute lowest cost.

author: mmagin
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 10:07:54 pm
content: Over-thin design!

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 10:24:54 pm
content: I was expecting something like "buy now while supplies last"Quote from: blueskull on April 17, 2017, 09:49:01 pm

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 10:57:55 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on April 17, 2017, 10:00:30 pmAnd that software and UI design matters. Seems they're still a pretty long way away from that.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 11:37:00 pm
content: It's got to be a cultural thing, because enough good quality stuff is made there that it's obvious that they're perfectly capable of building top notch stuff. I've worked with a number of engineers from China who live and work in the US and they've struck me as every bit as talented as American and European engineers. I'm quite ignorant of the culture in that whole region of the world though.