Magnetic Levitation Train true rapid transit but is it viable - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 02:28:11 pm
content: Japan's Maglev Train 500km/h or 310mph 42km in just 8 minat 150km/h the train levitates off the track. by 3 min 14km in to the journey the train reachers cruising speed and holds 500km/h for about 3 min before slowing at journey end. so by 150km/h the train settles back down on the track.this video is an insight in to what hyperloop will be if it ever works.if Australia had a maglev train would it be viable. its this the true hyperloop? the loop with out the hype!distance between sydney to melbourne9 h 8 min (877.6 km) via M31 and National Highway M31 by carMaglev monorail is just 1 hr 40 min at 500km/h for 88% of the journey.https://www.monorailsaustralia.com.au/index.htmlJapan breaks own speed record with new maglev train 2016The new Japanese maglev became the fastest train in the world after traveling at 374 miles per hour (603 kilometers per hour)http://en.publika.md/japan-breaks-own-speed-record-with-new-maglev-train_2630115.html

author: Benta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 03:42:35 pm
content: AFAIK, the only maglev line operating commercially is the one from Shanghai to Pudong airport (around 30 km), and it's a total flop. They've even reduced the speed to 300 km/h to conserve power and save money, but it still shows a hefty deficit.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 03:58:18 pm
content: Yeah, but the ticket for that is 6.4 EUR.Regular train costs more in Germany. Or here.

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2018, 12:22:47 am
content: Up-dateto be taken seriouslya working hyperloop must demonstrate that mus musculus or rattus norvegicus can travel at 600 km/h or 373 miles per hourin a hyperloop tube without death or injuries, having it all captured on live video that will also demonstrateuninterrupted data & video flow from the carriage or pod.a full-scale hyperloop underground infrastructure will require emergency exit's and maintenance systems,also airtight expansion joints plus air lock's , so an outer service tunnel is needed for the 800 km/h vacuum tube.also to get a perfectly straight vacuum tube with in less then 10mm deviation for 100s of kilometres you needlaser leveling control servos also airtight expansion joints plus air lock's, so hyperloop may only cost 1 billion $ a kilometre that is lessthenthe Large Hadron Collidercost of 3 billion $ a kilometre. an airport runway paved with gold maybe cheaper.yes hyperloop will work, just as the 1960s hovertrain experiment that workedThe Train that Floats in the Skybut the horrendous cost of per km of track plus its maintenance is just not viable let alone putting it all inside a vacuum tube.so why is hyperloop projects still happening ? Money, lots of it.

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2018, 12:55:02 am
content: Sci-fi reference time (or more of a sci-fi reference of hyperloop)...http://murdochmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/F.L.A.S.H.!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 08, 2018, 02:16:13 am
content: Quote from: Benta on January 10, 2018, 03:42:35 pmI've been on that train at 430kmh and it's awesome.From the Wiki:QuoteSo it was able to cover it's operating costs at one point, which is all transport system has to do. So it's a "flop" for other reasons, not really because it's a Maglev. IIRC it was easier, faster and cheaper for me to take the Taxi then the MagLev, but it was cool so I did it. An existing elevated airport train would have flopped in the same location I believe, it just didn't go to the right place.If you are going to the effort to built the elevated straight rail for a Maglev, then I can imagine that doing the same for conventional bullet train would also be viable? If operational costs of conventional trains are an advantage.Most of the effort and expense for such a project involves acquiring the land and building the straight track (it needs to be straight for reasons of basic physics).

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 08, 2018, 02:20:28 am
content: Quote from: jonovid on May 08, 2018, 12:22:47 amI'll keep saying it until the cows come home, vacuum based Hyperloop will never make it to practical usage. Never.

author: georges80
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2018, 03:02:49 am
content: ^ you're clueless mate.Musk will make the hyperloop work and he doesn't need a full vacuum. The hyperloops will be running on mars, not much after he gets his colony established there and not much after he gets his spacex vehicles and landers there (in one piece)...After all, his tesla vehicles were all delivered mostly on time... cough cough...cheers,george.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2018, 03:13:45 am
content: The dead horse will come alive quicker than Musk will get to Mars.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 08, 2018, 04:08:29 am
content: I wouldn't put it past Elon Musk to land a Tesla S on Mars...

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2018, 04:22:58 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on May 08, 2018, 04:08:29 amWill we have to guess in how many pieces?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 08, 2018, 04:31:52 am
content: Just needs to include a note: "Some assembly required."