FS: Used Test Equipment - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 03, 2017, 09:35:35 am
content: Hello,We have just received a pallet load of the below used equipment that we are now listing for sale.Please make your best offer.Thanks9101 Handheld Spectrum Analyser x 3N93CX DC Power SupplyTS3021S DC Power Supply x 4IPS303A DC Power SupplyPL154 DC Power Supply x 4E3630A Triple DC Power Supply x 2P008B DC Power Supply x 4EP-907 DC Power Supply x 4AX501 DC Power Supply x 20E3615A DC Power Supply x 2E3632A DC Power Supply x 366309D DC Power Supply x 4E3631A Triple Power SupplyNGSM 32/10 DC Power Supply x 3Wavetek 4202S Comms Test Set x 4E5515C Comms Test SetWiltek RF Shield Box x 25Wiltel 4921 RF Shield Box x 6PM3384A Autoranging Combiscope x 11RTM 1052 Oscilloscope 500MHz x 23100 Mobile Fault Finder x 16MT8510B Service Tester x 88594E Spectrum Analyser x 98590l Spectrum Analyser x 3

author: eeviking
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 03, 2017, 09:03:43 pm
content: Condition, pictures, shipping?

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 03, 2017, 10:41:35 pm
content: I really dislike companies saying "I'll have an X" - and then it isn't on their website. When should I come back - 1 minute/hour/day/week/aeon?FFS wait until we can see what it is before telling about it.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 03, 2017, 10:52:18 pm
content: You can Google the specs and send a PM with an offer.

author: eeviking
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 12:40:52 am
content: I may be interested in a psu but will need more info than just the model number before bidding on anything.Although Ill take a RTM 1052 for 500£

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 04:55:46 am
content: If there are no pictures or other details, I would expect the equipment to be in excellent condition - which means pretty much going over it with a face wipe will bring it up to display stock condition of a new product.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 07:29:13 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on October 03, 2017, 10:52:18 pmHow can I google the spec of a specific instance of a machine, to find options, condition, provenance etc? All of the latter are important to a price I would be prepared to pay.The OP's company has a website. They should post the stuff therebeforeteasing us.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 08:49:12 am
content: Hi all,These products will not be listed on the website, if there is any interest then please PM and we can get back to you with the required information.Thanks

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 09:06:25 am
content: Might be useful to give some indication of condition, whether they are tested/cal-checked, any warranty against DOA etc.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 09:24:36 am
content: Quote from: MCSTestEquipment on October 04, 2017, 08:49:12 amInteresting; why are you avoiding your usual sales channel with these items?

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 09:28:56 am
content: I would like a 4 CH scope for as little as possible. Send me an offer.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 09:47:04 am
content: Quote from: tggzzz on October 04, 2017, 09:24:36 amIf you'd checked some of the items you'd know there is a whole bunch of low end power supplies in there. It is probably not the most exciting batch of equipment they ever received. I really don't get why they should take picture of a PSU which costs less than $100 new??? Please quit complaining and be happy they posted the list here so people (probably) can get a good bargain.

author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 10:22:56 am
content: Hi,Provided you are in the UK/EU: I happily offer 200 (£/€) + 50 (£/€) shipping for one of the spectrum analysers.I know this is a very low offer, but even so, it is above my actual budget and I would have to work a lot on the HWAF (housewife acceptance factor).But at least I am doing a serious offer.Regards,Vitor

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 11:10:51 am
content: Quote from: Bicurico on October 04, 2017, 10:22:56 amA good condition 8594E Spectrum Analyser could sell for approx five times that offer if ebay prices are to be believed so I'm priced out for those.I find this "make an offer" business totally intractable so I preferred to be made an offer and haggle from there. Some of this stuff is quality equipment but anyone paying top prices is probably interested in condition, warranty etc. I feel this thread could benefit from some additional information from the OP.I suspect I'm priced out anyway, probably like Bicurico.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 11:17:53 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on October 04, 2017, 09:47:04 amWho cares about whateverotherequipment might be available for sale on the website?I'm sure there is a perfectly reasonable and honest reason why they aren't using their existing sales channels, so let's hear it.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 11:24:44 am
content: More seriously, this is low demand stuff if it's not assured or calibrated. It'll just sit and rots if you post it on the web and if you post it on ebay and wait then you have to pay up for fees up front. Better to make a few extra quid selling direct to people who are likely to put the cash down. I'd have no problems. I could do with an E3615 or two to be honest but I've got three perfectly good power supplies already.

author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 01:20:52 pm
content: My opinion on this:1) When someone asks for offers in the way it happend in this thread, I assume that the goal is to sell the items quickly.2) Selling quickly means: a) not having to wait long for ROI, b) not having to advertise, take pictures, describe the individual products, c) not having to test the products (one thing is to see if it turns ON/OFF, testing if it is fully functional is a completely different history)3) My offer for example is low. No questions aout it. BUT: I am willing to pay up to 250£/€ (shipping included) for an item I have not seen, tested, read about. I will pay in advance. I will purchase without the security offered by eBay/Paypal. The risk is all on my side. If I would get one of the Willtek 9101 spectrum analysers and it works and is in good shape, I would have made a great deal. If it was broken and I could repair it, it would still be a great deal. If it was broken and I could NOT repair it, then for me it would represent a significant loss.4) If MCSTestEquipment sells all spectrum analysers for 200£/€ plus shipping, he would make 3000£/€ on them alone. If he spent 2000£/€ (or less) on the pallet, that would be easy and quick profit.If MCSTestEquipment expects to get eBay-like offers, then I think that won't happen:a) I don't need yet another spectrum analyser (hello TEA group)b) If I wanted to buy lets say a Willtek 9101 and had teh choice of buying from here or from eBay at +/-20% price difference, I would go for the eBay one, due to the extra security (seller feedback, Paypal insurance, etc.)5) I find it perfectly reasonable and a NICE GESTURE of MCSTestEquipment to ask on this forum for offers! Heck: everyone can offer whatever they feel like. What is the problem? Want a power supply? Don't like to take risks? Offer as low as it is worth to you. In worst case, your offer will not be accepted - no harm done.Regards,Vitor

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 02:05:55 pm
content: Fair enough. If the OP wants to PM me an EEVForum special quote for a used/refurb Rigol MSO1104Z I would appreciate it. Thanks.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 02:13:51 pm
content: Quote from: Bicurico on October 04, 2017, 01:20:52 pmAll those opinions are very reasonable, particularly w.r.t. PSUs. Consequently I would be comforted if such statements were made.I've no problem buying things with faults, provided that (possibility) is stated up front. As it is another poster stated "If there are no pictures or other details, I would expect the equipment to be in excellent condition", so clearly there is confusion.

author: BenKenobi
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 04:40:28 pm
content: The conflict comes when the seller requires or expects an offer commensurate with a good condition working item but for an item that is sold without any declaration of its condition or state.I've made an offer on a PSU but way below what the item could fetch simply because of the risk and the age that it could be, I have to assume worst case, various faults could be present. Some of the PSU's in that list if defective contain embedded components / ROM type stuff that are known to fail and can't be replaced / sourced rendering them into very efficient doorstops or nothing more than a spares source.The items listed can only be sold as 'for parts or not working' unless otherwise declared, the price offered should be (and expected to be) in accordance with that assumption.

author: Neuromodulator
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2017, 11:51:30 pm
content: So what offers has he accepted or rejected? Just wondering....

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2017, 12:27:34 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on October 04, 2017, 09:06:25 amThat'd be nice, yes.

author: b_force
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2017, 01:08:56 am
content: Quote from: bd139 on October 04, 2017, 11:24:44 amWhere is the DIY spirit nowadays?Sometimes it seems far gone.Even if the design of a PSU is that bad, you would surely pay more for a transformer, a case/chassis, some knobs and other bits and bobsJust rip out the guts, and replace it with a good other design to your taste

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 05, 2017, 04:38:41 am
content: Even if we didn't get specifics about each item on offer - it would be nice to get at least afeelfor what to expect.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2017, 06:21:10 am
content: Quote from: b_force on October 05, 2017, 01:08:56 amThe construction of an E3615 doesn’t lend itself to repurposing.

author: b_force
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2017, 02:20:27 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on October 05, 2017, 06:21:10 amI don't see why?But anyway there is more for sale than just an E3615

author: BenKenobi
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2017, 02:26:38 pm
content: I've had an offer in but had no response whatsoever not even 'no' and the seller has been online since I made it, no biggy for me, plenty more gear out there.

author: strawberry
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2017, 07:55:48 pm
content: Smells fishythey will trash them not getting desired price anyway..

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 06:44:27 am
content: Quote from: BenKenobi on October 05, 2017, 02:26:38 pmMy experience too.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 07:17:34 am
content: That's how you get added to my vendor shitlist

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 07:58:52 am
content: If they aren't- proactively providing photos and other details ...- going to put this stuff on their website ....or- snapping back on communications ....... then maybe they aren't overly invested in getting top dollar from this load.If that is the case, then patience may be rewarded by the acceptance of offers that might be surprising.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 09:29:47 am
content: Quote from: EdoNork on October 06, 2017, 06:44:27 amThey're a business not a charity - it makes sense to wait a while to see what offers come in, though an acknowledgement would be nice.

author: BenKenobi
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 09:45:41 am
content: We have a business and in today's market if you don't respond pretty darn fast the customer is long gone, the internet provides all kinds of alternatives, you simply can't conduct business these days how you did even 20 years ago. There is zero excuse for sitting on offers when you request offers, it isn't an auction, you either accept it or you don't, common courtesy and good manners requires a response.

author: Dachpappe
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 09:55:12 am
content: PM sent.It's worth a try, maybe you can get a good deal out of it. Most gear they sell on their site includes cal, maybe you can expect at least the supplies to need some adjustment.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 10:25:59 am
content: Quote from: BenKenobi on October 06, 2017, 09:45:41 amThis. The market is saturated now. If you want to sell, you need to ship quickly at a good price and be up front. No one has time to piss around playing To Me To You like the Chuckle Brothers. I can get literally anything next day, so the only thing you're competing on is price and service.

author: eeviking
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 03:14:41 pm
content: He declined my low ball offer for some of the HP power supply's.I would have paid his counter offer if the condition was good, but I asked twice for info on condition without an answer.I suspect its "for parts" units.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 03:18:32 pm
content: Quote from: eeviking on October 06, 2017, 03:14:41 pmIt only makes sense to lowball with no information at all.