Inside A ISIS Weapons Lab  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 12:53:09 pm
content: quite scaryhttp://news.sky.com/story/1617197/exclusive-inside-is-terror-weapons-lab

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 04:18:54 pm
content: Soon they will catch up with 1943 German technology. With Toyota pickups.Meanwhile, every time someone steps outside there, Russia cluster bombs them.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 05:08:43 pm
content: Cue some CNN footage of those buildings being reduced to rubble.

author: MrSlack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 05:19:08 pm
content: The timer at 01:42 is a total bodge!Clearly a 555 monostable, shitty soldering from hell, trailing shorts everywhere, leaky capacitor and more sticky tape than I've ever seen...

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 05:22:39 pm
content: But they're too stupid to know that thermal images don't work through a glass windscreen.And all they can manage for their remote car is simple on/off control.And how are they going to control that without their radio signal being detected and jammed (Like they did with the IRA in the 1970s)?And WTF is a "thermal battery"Typical incompetent press reporting.Hopefully a few of them wiull blow themselves to bits dicking around with this stuff.

author: MrSlack
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 05:28:18 pm
content: I think that is inevitable. Looks like GCSE technology flunkers to me.

author: hamdi.tn
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 05:31:54 pm
content: i know that many of those terrorist in ISIS use to student in engineering school. but they are stupid as hell and they will not put an effort on designing a driveless car, they think they go to heaven when they suicideWhat scare me the most, is not what they are capable of, i mean anyone with basic knowledge and internet can make any kind of weaponry. but who finance them and supply them. Last week i saw an article in a German news paper talking about the implication of french internet over satellite service provider, in providing ISIS with internet

author: Kolovrat88
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 05:35:13 pm
content: Quote from: AcHmed99 on January 06, 2016, 05:21:53 pm"Government of Madagascar shuts down shipyards due to prevent infection"Also, some people make robots, some porn, others prefer bombs

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 05:42:16 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 06, 2016, 05:22:39 pmAt the risk of giving morons more information than they need, I will point out that more than one of your statements indicates insufficient understanding to comment intelligently.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 05:45:37 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 06, 2016, 05:22:39 pmYes, I hope so, but the smart ones use the fools to do so. the fools are the cannon fodder, believing the stuff fed to them, and the ones behind use them like toilet paper, use once then throw away.As to the thermal battery, that is a simple power supply that is used to power the missile after it has left the launcher. Basically a thermopile battery using a chemical heat source to generate the power needed to operate the missile electronics for the few seconds it runs. Used because it has a long shelf life ( essentially zero degradation as it only operates on initiation) and can deliver a relatively high current for its volume. Used because they did not have battery chemistry other than zinc chloride that would not need recharging. others are used in the launcher for handheld missiles, using the same reasons of long storage and high current draw for short periods. The ones they have probably corroded to pieces from the inside and poor storage.

author: jwm_
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 06:03:07 pm
content: Quote from: AcHmed99 on January 06, 2016, 05:21:53 pmBecause the human immune system is really really hard to outsmart. Developing a new biological agent is incredibly hard and requires a lot of infrastructure and time in a continued secure location for a lab for years on end to make any progress. Compared to refurbishing some explosives, which is relatively straightforward and does not require a permanent presence, just some locally sourced tools and knowledge. Now, there is a chance they can buy some existing biological agent, but whipping up something radically new? highly unlikely.

author: tszaboo
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 06:18:16 pm
content: Quote from: hamdi.tn on January 06, 2016, 05:31:54 pmOK, I've raised this question before. IDK how hard would it be to just pull the plug on the internet on the entire region. I mean if they cannot upload videos of their terrible acts they will probably stop doing it just for the sake of terror, right? In the old days, if someone declared war on you, it meant something. Now we pay for their oil and give them what they need? And someone coming from that country can enter yours without even a passport?

author: chris_leyson
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 06:56:33 pm
content: Thermal batteries are batteries activated by heat,http://www.asb-group.com/uk/piles-comment.asp#.They're used in artillery shells, rockets and such like. WWII proximity fuzes used zinc carbon batteries with a glass ampoule containing the electrolyte. On firing the shell the ampoule would break and centrifugal force due to the shell's spin would push the electrolyte into the battery plates. Here's a picture of a MK45 proximity fuze (or is it fuse), the battery was housed in the steel tube.

author: MrSlack
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 07:04:32 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on January 06, 2016, 06:18:16 pmWe definitely dont want to kill the Internet there, which is incidentally trivially possible via BGP and AS shenanigans. It's a pretty good surveillance medium and supports civilians too.

author: BillyD
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 08:06:08 pm
content: Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 06, 2016, 05:42:16 pmGreat to know, thanks for the heads up! Does that mean that all the other posts on this thread are intelligent? Or can you even say, what with all the bad guys who might find and read this, etc?

author: hamdi.tn
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 08:12:58 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on January 06, 2016, 06:18:16 pmi can't say why they don't or who's buying their oil. but i can say as it all this is about someone making some profits. am not fun of conspiracy theory but this inexplicable slow reaction from some gov around the world, just stink.i don't understand too how hard to keep them in the dark, cause internet for them is basically a propaganda tool, to recrute more terrorists and to scare the rest of the population with their terrible videos.

author: hamdi.tn
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 08:15:55 pm
content: Quote from: MrSlack on January 06, 2016, 07:04:32 pmnop it don't support civilian in those area, simple fact that most region occupied by ISIS have no basic services like telephone or cell phone, and no more active ISP, this is why ISIS is using satellite services using some hardware given by who know who.

author: MrSlack
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 09:22:04 pm
content: Quote from: hamdi.tn on January 06, 2016, 08:15:55 pmFrench ISP I understand. TBH it could just be muled over to Turkey and uploaded from an Internet cafe as well.

author: hamdi.tn
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 09:35:00 pm
content: Quote from: MrSlack on January 06, 2016, 09:22:04 pmthe same article mention some Turkish company involvement too

author: German_EE
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 09:55:25 pm
content: A fuze is used in an explosive device, a fuse disconnects the electrical power if there is a fault.

author: timb
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 10:14:20 pm
content: Quote from: AcHmed99 on January 06, 2016, 07:06:02 pmAh yes, The History Channel. The channel that runs Extreme Ice Road Logging Axe Truckers, Ancient Aliens, The Search for Bigfoot and other fine, quality programming.I'll take anything they say with a grain of salt, thank you very much.

author: helius
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timestamp: January 07, 2016, 12:40:52 am
content: Quote from: AcHmed99 on January 06, 2016, 11:25:51 pmCould you say anything more ridiculous? Smallpox cultures are only kept in two secure facilities in the world. Nobody can "grow cultures in their home".

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2016, 12:58:09 am
content: Quote from: helius on January 07, 2016, 12:40:52 amTechnically what you say is true, but there are graves all over the world with potential sources of this pathogen. Probably finding and activating them is beyond the means of the vast majority, but it is one of those weird bets. Probability of losing is very low, but the penalty for losing is really, really large. Particularly for younger members of the developed world who have never been vaccinated.

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2016, 02:30:44 am
content: Sorry, but most of the above about terrorists and biological weapons is either impossible (digging up active smallpox from old graves) or in the case of developing a novel, highly virulent pathogen with a long incubation period, extremely improbable to the point of being essentially impossible. It's akin to saying that terrorists could develop new electronic jamming equipment that could disable all western weapon systems because, you know, you can buy all the test equipment you need on eBay....

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2016, 07:37:10 am
content: Quote from: mtdoc on January 07, 2016, 02:30:44 amExactly. Radioactive material is stupid easy to get your hands on. With enough Smoke Alarms, time and determination you could make a dirty bomb.A small thermonuclear device wouldn't be hard to make either. The biggest problem would be getting the enriched uranium.Then there's the rumors of Soviet nuclear warheads floating around out there. Though if a functioning one was available on the black market, I'm sure it would have already been detonated by some terrorist or small dictatorship right?

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2016, 07:08:02 pm
content: Quote from: mtdoc on January 07, 2016, 02:30:44 amThey have recovered the 1917 influenza virus from old graves. I don't know what is special about smallpox. The conditions that would preserve the virus don't occur in most graves, but there are places worldwide that would seem to support survival.I'm not an immunology expert, but apparently smallpox is not horribly fragile. It was transferred to the aboriginals of North America (among other methods) by giving (or selling) them blankets which came from smallpox ridden sources. But like I said, it is very low probability, and would require more than casual expertise, and perhaps a different view of ethics than is common in the western world. I just don't equate very difficult or low probability with impossible. Nor do I assume that all of the bright and educated people in the world are on my side. Think about what US nuclear scientists would have said about the possibility of an impoverished south Asian country developing nuclear weapons. Pakistan just didn't choose to listen to them.And finally, news sources indicate that people in the war zones of the middle east have cleverly repurposed commercially available equipment as electronic countermeasures. Does it disable all of our weaponry. No, of course not, but it does have an impact. Also related, Aviation Week over the last several years has reported that several nations are exploiting commercial technology to develop ECM/ECCM systems that are in some respects better than the best from NATO sources. Again not a magic bullet that ends ability of NATO sourced weaponry, but a reminder that the west doesn't own all of the brainpower and creativity in the world.

author: MT
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timestamp: January 07, 2016, 07:16:40 pm
content: Quote from: timb on January 07, 2016, 07:37:10 amLatest Sky news!An Isis associate was captured today at Wallmart buying 10 000 smoke detectors, claims big party on it's way in Raqqa!

author: orion242
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 07, 2016, 07:57:57 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on January 06, 2016, 06:18:16 pmKeep your friends close and your enemies even closer...I would suspect tracking where these posts and videos are coming from, listing in on their communications and tracking who they are communicating with outweighs the benefits of killing it off.

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2016, 07:59:28 pm
content: Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 07, 2016, 07:08:02 pmVirulent, live virus? Source?ADD: I suspect you're confusing recovery of DNA with recovery of viable virus. Recover of bacterial and viral DNA from old corpses is nothing new or remarkable and is very different than recovering something that could be cultured and used to infect someone now. There was an interesting article today about isolating bacterial DNA from the 5,300 year old "Otzi the Iceman" corpse.

author: vodka
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timestamp: January 07, 2016, 09:24:04 pm
content: i believe that people has many paranoiawith the biological and nuke weapons . When the terrorists have more easy to make attacks low-cost. For example:A commnado go into a school and begin to stab all the people with knifes ,axes and machetes, killing 30 or 40 persons and the others almost-dead on less 5 minutes.Result : HIGH IMPACT PSYCHOLOGICAL AND VERY CHEAP.Other example : A commando take a trailer loaded with high immfamable and explosives, and they left in the parking of the mall, and they blast.Result : massacre seems as the Alfaques's accident caused by a truck loaded with propylene

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2016, 11:37:31 pm
content: ISIS also has a space program now. Here is one of their prototype rockets:Edit: word

author: MT
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timestamp: January 07, 2016, 11:49:07 pm
content: That prototype rocket are apparently sponsored by US state department.. some say!https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2015/10/12/toyota-mystery-solved/Quotehttp://uk.businessinsider.com/why-isis-uses-toyota-trucks-2015-10?r=US&IR=TQuote

author: DeanA
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2016, 12:30:03 am
content: Quote from: helius on January 07, 2016, 12:40:52 amI think maybe he just finished reading "I Am Pilgrim" by Terry Hayes, not a bad read but purely a work of fiction.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 08, 2016, 01:31:45 am
content: I suppose they can't afford to buy Volvo's or Tesla's so they have to design their own driverless model. Maybe the Chinese manufacturers could pinch their design? Cherry, Great Wall etc...

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2016, 02:23:34 am
content: Quote from: MT on January 07, 2016, 11:49:07 pmThat ISIS is a product (whether intentional or unintentional blow-back) of the West (primarily the US) should not come as a shock to anyone who's been paying attention.

author: sarepairman2
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timestamp: January 08, 2016, 04:48:15 am
content: omfg fuck these guys trying to make amature chemistry and science even more demonic.i'm gonna be laughing really hard when their star light is captured by a bored rich man eons into the future and used to re-enact Arnold Schwarzenegger movies on a ring worldhopefully we live in a world where there is conservation of information.keep in mind, these guys are high as fuck and they love saber rattling. you need to keep in mind ISIL is just a house party all the psychopaths and angry children want to go to, actually run by a mafia that wants to exploit them for financial gain and the high of power under the guise of religion*pro tip, religion and spirituality should bring you empathy for others, not a personal dopamine rush yelling someones named in the street and shooting a ak47

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2016, 10:23:16 am
content: Quote from: mtdoc on January 08, 2016, 02:23:34 amSo, who is not paying attention and and become shocked? US citizens? Dont think its that simple, Irak is mainly a clan society,likewise Libya, Albania and many African nations,Pakistan India, Afganistan Turkmenistan and other Arabic, whit hundred ofyears of inter petty wars and feuds newer forgotten rather passed onto the next generation.Quote from: AcHmed99 on January 08, 2016, 12:43:23 amThe grim reaper didnt say anything abut Canadians !

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2016, 02:55:13 pm
content: I watched the clip with the sound off,so as to avoid any distractions due to the commentary.Just from the video,it has the distinct"clunk"of untruth about it.After all,how hard is it to set up a few props that really could be anything,show them for a few minutes,then pose a couple of blokes (one with a tea towel on his head),against a vaguely Middle Eastern backdrop?

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2016, 04:20:09 pm
content: Quote from: MT on January 08, 2016, 10:23:16 amAt this point of time it doesnt matter anymore, who started the war, fighting, atrocities. The only question, who can finally bring peace and civilize the people living there. It doesnt work, that parts of the world are 1400 years behind with their mentality, not if there is so many.My issue, "the one war to end all wars" card was played already, and it didnt play well. And nuking the entire region, like some wannabe politicians say is just bad. So really, what do you do with people so much rage and hate? We cannot decide what to do with a tiny amount of people until the big question is solved. And that is not just IS, the entire middle east.

author: Tinkerer
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timestamp: January 09, 2016, 12:35:46 am
content: Quote from: timb on January 07, 2016, 07:37:10 amWell aside from rumored suitcase nukes, there is one easy source of nuclear material.Russia has littered about it, nuclear farm equipment. Yes, at one point they were building farm equipment powered with nuclear reactors. They left tons of it laying abandoned around the country. Anyone who was serious could certainly go find it.To give an idea, a small canistor(think something like coffee pot sized) of the material was once found and disposed of a few years back but it was so radioactive that it was calculated that no person could be within, something like 1-2m, for more than 40 seconds at a time without risking serious effects. There was a video of these guys rushing back and forth taking turns moving it on the end of a bar. On further thought I kinda wonder why they couldnt have gotten proper suits; but something like that does seem very Russian to do. Of course it could have been that perhaps they were worried about it being stolen and couldnt wait for the suits.