Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / projects

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 12:32:49 am
content: Extensive paper by Bunnie Huang & Edward Showdenhttps://www.pubpub.org/pub/direct-radio-introspection?context=tjoe

author: Teledog
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 04:38:16 am
content: Interesting tech!But why not KISS?Burner phones rotated/trashed & pull the battery when not in use?..That's what Hollywood does anyway...

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 08:57:26 am
content: Quote from: Teledog on September 08, 2017, 04:38:16 amIn most countries there's no such thing as a "burner phone". Every phone is registered to somebody.(assuming a "burner phone" is what I think it is from watching TV)

author: Avacee
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 09:12:40 am
content: In the UK you can buy a phone, sim, and credit all with cash and need never provide a name.In fact you can register it as "Donald Trump" and so long as you don't misrepresent yourself as someone else it isn't illegal.

author: Kleinstein
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 09:24:43 am
content: In theory every phone or more accurately the SIM card should be registered to a user. The phones also have an ID, but at least in Europe they are not connected to people and nobody cares about buying / selling used phones.However the ID check for pre-paid cards was not very good in the last years in Europe. So you could get cards registered to names like Donald Duck or just a person who does not know. So there where cards around that where not registered. The checks are supposed to get better - but I doubt it is absolutely secure. Though illegal you could likely still buy a card from a random drug addict who does not care to have it registered to name.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 09:28:13 am
content: Quote from: Fungus on September 08, 2017, 08:57:26 amThey made huge changes in the EU recently, and this is exactly the case. Before that, (supposedly) they bought 200000 sim card to some homeless guy's name. And you could just pick up prepaid card, with money on them on an airport, for free.

author: mark03
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 04:51:36 pm
content: Page won't even load on my system. Apparently it requires a more privacy-destroying combination of browser and OS than I have here

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 05:46:15 pm
content: I remember reading this back when it was released. It is a start however I think the only practical solution is to separate the radio and processing functions so the later may be completely controlled by the user who may then use multiple (and anonymous) methods of accessing the internet. Forget privacy when using end point facilities provided by telecommunication companies.Quote from: mark03 on September 08, 2017, 04:51:36 pmIt stopped loading on mine while I was reading it. I downloaded the PDF here:https://assets.pubpub.org/aacpjrja/AgainstTheLaw-CounteringLawfulAbusesofDigitalSurveillance.pdf

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 06:04:58 pm
content: Quote from: mark03 on September 08, 2017, 04:51:36 pmIt needed javascript, yes.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2017, 06:57:21 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on September 08, 2017, 06:04:58 pmIt needed a lack of Javascript. It worked for me and then quit likely because of state mismanagement.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2017, 01:34:24 pm
content: Quote from: David Hess on September 08, 2017, 06:57:21 pmLots of people are seeing it. Maybe you need a better web browser.

author: vodka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2017, 03:09:04 pm
content: Quote from: Kleinstein on September 08, 2017, 09:24:43 amIn Spain , since 2008 the pre-paid cards sold in this country must be identified with the name and number DNI of the user.

author: stj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 09, 2017, 05:56:03 pm
content: the Terrorists probably have a huge vocal database for voice recognition/identification - so they know it's you even if you shout in the dark with a bag on your head!they have been working on this type of tech for decades, the u.k. government even has an ongoing project outsourced to a company in India to use voice i.d. in the future for benefit claims/payments.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2017, 09:04:54 pm
content: Quote from: vodka on September 09, 2017, 03:09:04 pmI imagine this is true in any country with ID card system. Anybody got a counter-example?The best part is that in the very south of Spain you might get phone coverage from Morocco, depending on where you are.The terrorists might think you've gone across the water at night in some clandestine way then come back again next day.