Magnetic Free Energy Device - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: vargoal
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2015, 04:21:07 am
content: So I was browsing Kickstarter like normal when I found this project. It's a "free energy device". Just putting it here for those of you who like to rage at free energy devices!https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1790942368/magnetic-free-energy-device-cut-down-on-your-bills?ref=category

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2015, 05:23:30 am
content: Words fail me!But that's OK, they also fail the project creator.There are hints that he used a spell checker but that didn't seem to help much.How bad is it? Not sure but he didn't even figured out to use indigogo with flex funding.Anyways, I think I became stupider after reading his KS offer, it's worse than reality TV!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 10, 2015, 05:42:27 am
content: I thought free energy crap was banned on Kickstarter now?

author: PTR_1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2015, 06:21:29 am
content: That makes my head hurt with all the stupid on one page.Kinda like the water generator doing the rounds a few months back. The bloke spent more time showcasing things like the wheels and gpo's than he did about the thing working. When he finally plugged a vacuum cleaner into it, the ammeter didn't change. There were 2 batteries and an inverter inside and wires going to this mysterious generator that runs of 4 gallons of water for a few days.

author: vargoal
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2015, 06:54:14 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 10, 2015, 05:42:27 amGuess it's not banned but I think it should be! Good news is that they are not making any money on this project.

author: Derresh
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2015, 07:47:13 pm
content: Another one ? Why do ppl even think this is possible... And if you call this on the BS you are marked as part of the conspiracy that prevents this form being public

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2015, 09:13:40 pm
content: To be fair he is talking about transforming energy from magnetic to electrical not free out of nowhere.But he probably has a big primary coil hidden somewhere under that table.I bet his free energy is at main's frequency.

author: max_torque
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2015, 09:40:58 pm
content: Hold on a MINUTE!!If it's "FREE" energy, how come we have to pay to finance a kickstarter?? ;-)

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2015, 09:27:12 am
content: Because it's FREE as everybody can get their KS perks,not that it comes free of costs and disappointments.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2015, 11:54:51 am
content: Just the fact, that he already got some people who backed his stupid project tells us:1. How much people hope for such a device2. How little the people are educated in this field3. How little time some people invest, before backing such a lunatic

author: hallis
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 12, 2015, 06:17:04 pm
content: Hah, I was backing the project with GBP 200 and now I upped my pledge to GBP 5000, just for fun and giggles. So don't worry too much: at most GBP 240 is actually pledged by true believers

author: jaxbird
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2015, 06:25:18 pm
content: Nice, I've been waiting for free energy for years, happy to see it will finally be a reality with this random kickstarter campaign.I'm going to throw all my savings into this, is seems very credible.

author: hallis
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 12, 2015, 06:31:54 pm
content: Yeah. Random kickstarter campaigns are a great way to teach the laws of phyiscs a lesson and finally let us run our A/C full blast all sumer without worrying about the bill. Let's do this!

author: MFX
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2015, 10:40:27 pm
content: What really P's me off is that they allow this crap, yet this is the reply I got to my real/viable, low cost, low risk product submission (I couldn't be arsed to pursue it any further, I might just knock some up and flog them on Ebay) :-"Hi Martin,Thanks for submitting your project to Kickstarter. We review projects to ensure they meet our Project Guidelines (http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines), which define how Kickstarter can be used. As the development of new products can be especially complex for creators and seductive to backers, projects that are developing new hardware or products have additional guidelines which must be met in order to be approved:Hardware and Product Design guidelines• Show your workProjects must be clear about their state of development, and cannot be presented as preorders of finished products. Projects must show details (photos, videos, sketches) of their progress so far, along with a prototype demonstrating the product's current functionality. Projects must explain how the final design is likely to differ from the prototype, and include a production plan (i.e., how you're going to make it) and an estimated timeline.• No product simulations or photorealistic renderingsTechnical drawings, CAD designs, sketches, and other parts of the design process are awesome and encouraged. Photorealistic renderings and simulations that could be mistaken for finished products or real events, however, are not allowed.• Single servingsProduct Design and Hardware projects can only offer one reward per pledge. Offering multiple quantities can imply that rewards are shrink-wrapped and ready to ship when they’re not. With some projects, we'll make exceptions for what we consider sensible sets — things like salt and pepper shakers, notebooks, building blocks, etc.Please note that our Guidelines for Design projects require information on how and where you will make your project, as well as sharing images and video of your prototype. Can you update your project to reflect this and fall within the guidelines above? In particular we'll need you to update your rewards and show your work that includes:• A documented, incremental progress from the first spark all the way to the where you are today. Napkin sketches, photographs, handmade prototypes, whiteboard user flow diagrams, these are the things that tell the story of a product conceived, designed, prototyped, and eventually manufactured by creators and their partners. Basically, tell backers your story.• A functional prototype must be shown. If an adequate demonstration requires video, a video demo must be included in the project description or project video. Still images alone will not suffice. The video helps a lot, but close up product photos are also important - especially behind scenes for the electronics.• A thorough manufacturing plan must be described. Details should include steps taken in the product development process up to the point of project launch as well as production and fulfillment plans post project success.Once you've finished updating your project, let me know and I'll have another look!-Terry"

author: suicidaleggroll
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2015, 12:56:47 am
content: Quote from: hallis on January 12, 2015, 06:17:04 pmWhy would you do that? The higher the funding level, the more ignorant people trust the project and contribute to it. Even though you're going to pull your contribution in the end, the longer it sits there the more people might see it and think it's credible, and contribute their own money. You could inadvertently lead to this scam actually being funded, people losing their money, and this douchebag running off to the Bahamas, all for giggles?You should be reporting it, not fake-contributing to it. Just let it sit at 0 funding and rot...

author: hallis
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 13, 2015, 08:17:34 am
content: Quote from: suicidaleggroll on January 13, 2015, 12:56:47 amI did report it, expecting it to be gone in a matter of hours. As Kickstarter didn't seem to eager to shut it down, I upped the stakes rigorously to try and evoke a response from them. (And, to be honest, I liked getting this guy's hopes up for a short time, even though that might encourage him to pursue this nevarious scheme further).

author: snoopy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2015, 02:04:54 pm
content: Quote from: hallis on January 12, 2015, 06:17:04 pmLike P.T.Barnum said - "There is a sucker born every minute"

author: LukeW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2015, 03:29:06 am
content: This is the sort of thing we used to mock IndieGoGo for, but now Kickstarter has fallen to the same level?

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2015, 03:49:21 am
content: Quote from: LukeW on January 15, 2015, 03:29:06 amNot really because KS doesn't allow for flexible funding as far as I know.

author: MLXXXp
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2015, 03:44:09 pm
content: Quote from: miguelvp on January 15, 2015, 03:49:21 amCan't you get the equivalent of flexible funding on KS by setting the goal to $1 (or the minimum pledge amount for your currency)?I've seen this done before and wondered why it isn't used more often. Perhaps the KS screening process rejects this in most cases. Or maybe people haven't clued in on this loophole.

author: 0xdeadbeef
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2015, 11:40:50 am
content: It never ends ...https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-spintronic-generator

author: snoopy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2015, 08:12:13 am
content: Quote from: 0xdeadbeef on January 16, 2015, 11:40:50 amWhy is it that every time you hear about one of these crackpot free energy devices Tesla's name gets mentioned ?They reckon they have already spent 1.2 million on it but I can't see anything that would equate to that value except another one of those crackpot magnet motors connected to some batteries which is hardly worth 100 buckscheers

author: 0xdeadbeef
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2015, 11:29:08 am
content: And another one:https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/technology-r-d-for-benefit-of-whole-humanity

author: leppie
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2015, 12:01:38 pm
content: Is this not just plain energy harvesting?I have been readinghttp://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1018&context=archengdissto see the viability of it.

author: snoopy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2015, 12:38:31 pm
content: Quote from: 0xdeadbeef on January 19, 2015, 11:29:08 amHis last campaign wasn't very successful eitherhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/have-no-choice-but-to-try-this-i-hope-it-works

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2015, 04:04:56 pm
content: Quote from: leppie on January 19, 2015, 12:01:38 pmUnless you live under a high voltage line there isn't any energy of consequence to harvest ... even if you do, I'm pretty sure it's illegal.

author: 0xdeadbeef
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2015, 05:51:43 pm
content: Quote from: leppie on January 19, 2015, 12:01:38 pmWell, "free energy" devices are just a part of his great inventions.There's also stuff like this:I sure hope he's not older than 10 or so.

author: snoopy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2015, 10:31:52 pm
content: Quote from: 0xdeadbeef on January 19, 2015, 05:51:43 pmSounds like he isn't older than 10 !Around the World on 80 Wattshttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/around-the-world-on-80-watts--2

author: 0xdeadbeef
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2015, 10:39:20 pm
content: I must admit I also drew floating cities and submarines when I was ten. Problem is ... he's a tad older:https://plus.google.com/+BogdanMajkic/postsAnd yes, he also has the classic in his portfolio:

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2015, 02:16:12 pm
content: its funny how much people got hypnotized when they hear the word "free energy" its like taboo... i dont see anything wrong with the kickstarter project, albeit flower lip service but i think he is humble enough to ask for his RnD, you'll get step by step pdf, working or not working is another story... now get back to "free energy", everybody went ohhh thats impossible! they got fooled by the word, if you care to read carefully, he is trying to tap "earth wave" (if its even there, or earth magnetic force or whatever), his method and attempt from my point of view is like trying to invent a wind/water turbine to tap natural forces, except this time its a earth magnetic turbine. its not impossible as have been proven in water and wind and solar! why you all people got fooled?

author: donotdespisethesnake
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2015, 08:53:18 pm
content: Bogdan Majkic is what I call a "high-functioning lunatic".http://cnckingdom.com/bogdan-majkic-inventor-australia/There are plenty of people like him around in the "Free Energy" world. They are "mostly harmless".They have enough ability to be superficially convincing to the 95% of the population who don't understand science. To anyone who does understand science, it only takes a couple of seconds to see that the scheme won't work.