16700b no value? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: dorkshoei
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 14, 2022, 07:25:19 pm
content: I have a spare 16700b. Having a hard time getting any interest in it at $150 (starting price).It appears to me that it's probably worth quite a bit more parted out (opt 003, mainboard, ethernet card, pci card, scsi drive, power supply, cdrom drive) than it is complete. Recycle chassis.Obviously takes time to take it all apart but ....

author: alm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2022, 12:01:33 am
content: They are expensive to ship, and don't do much without cards. And buying used cards is iffy due to the issue with the glue attacking the board. I'd think you'd either have to sell it as working system with cards, or part them out.Either way, don't expect big bucks. They are huge. I know: I have two, one I solely bought for the option 3 memory because it was cheaper than buying the memory separately. They are mainly useful in the niche of legacy parallel memory busses requiring more than the 16 channels your average MSO or USB logic analyzer could manage.

author: dorkshoei
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2022, 12:11:20 am
content: Quote from: alm on September 15, 2022, 12:01:33 amYup. This is exactly why I have one. 16ch wasn't enough.I guess I'll part it out and put it on ePay. Shame but the parts will be small and easily shippable. Most cross to the 702b.Re: "expensive to ship"; I mostly had it listed on my local Craiglist/Facebook marketplace for local pickup.

author: Tony_G
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2022, 12:44:21 am
content: I have a couple (possibly 3) of these era units that I acquired on a pallet of gear I picked up in an Auction - Apart from doing a video on replacing the CCD/supply, I've never used them (they've just been in storage) - In comparison, I've used my Saleae unit many many times since - I think the reason I was keeping them was that one of the boards supported ECL but that might just be wishful thinking on my part.I'm not sure they're even working now and with the amount of "fraud/bad actors" on eBay I don't even know if it is worth my effort to part them out.TonyG

author: dorkshoei
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2022, 12:52:18 am
content: Quote from: Tony_G on September 15, 2022, 12:44:21 amI don't want to tangent this into an eBay bashing thread. I sold TE on eBay for a long time. The major factor that made me stop was the 14% fees and the 6 month return window. The later never bit me, I just worried about it. The outright fraud is overstated IMO and there are simple ways as a seller to minimize - but obviously not eliminate - it. Of course the old adage applies "don't sell anything on eBay you cannot afford to lose" as they clearly favor buyers wrt "protection".Apart from this, sure, eBay sucks. They're a huge corporation like PayPal, Comcast, Aetna bla bla bla.

author: dorkshoei
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2022, 12:56:44 am
content: Quote from: Tony_G on September 15, 2022, 12:44:21 amTriggering support on the Saleae (I own one) is a joke compared to the 167xx.

author: Tony_G
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2022, 01:03:12 am
content: Agreed on the bashing thread thing but I am going to share the thing that did it for me.For many years I sold gear that I acquired that were "surplus to my needs" without problem (one or two, here or there, never a big issue) but what broke me was when I sold a working HP 8663A (passed the Keysight calibration tests) and got whatever they called a "Unit not as shown" and the photos that the buyer used showed a unit that looked like it was tossed off the back of a truck - Funnily the pictures of the box showed it in almost pristine condition - They wanted to return & refund.Fortunately, I had the delivery insured so FedEx paid out (and strangely returned the unit to me, it's now sitting in storage) - I'm firm in the belief, that the buyer used my unit as a parts mule to fix theirs and then claimed "Unit not as shown" as a way of getting their money back.YMMV, I just don't think the return on my time is worth it anymore, and certainly not for these units.TonyG

author: Tony_G
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2022, 01:04:09 am
content: Quote from: dorkshoei on September 15, 2022, 12:56:44 amAlso true and agreed to unconditionally - I actually logged an issue with them on this early in the product lifecycle and as far as I can tell they never bothered to address it.TonyG

author: dorkshoei
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2022, 01:07:56 am
content: Quote from: Tony_G on September 15, 2022, 01:03:12 amSo you're not out any money. You probably need to move on :-)I've had plenty of bad eBay experiences (with their employees).Is it worth my time to part these out, list on eBay, vs giving them away. That's a time-vs-money discussion and everyone has their own subjective opinion :-)

author: Tony_G
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2022, 01:47:59 am
content: Oh, I agree with the moving on part but it certainly left a bad taste in my mouth - Just the brazenness of what they were doing floored me - They didn't care, I could have been on the hook for the whole price as they certainly didn't call me and ask if I had everything insured before they asked eBay to give them their money back.TonyG