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author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 10:08:04 am
content: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37640145

author: RGB255_0_0
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 10:21:24 am
content: Yeah but you get the other side of the coin with Pauline Hanson

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 10:42:41 am
content: Don't they have more important things to do?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 11:03:57 am
content: Quote from: StuUK on October 13, 2016, 10:42:41 amIt's parliament, so nope.

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 11:25:29 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 13, 2016, 11:03:57 amDoes it keep them off the streets and out of trouble?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 11:27:10 am
content: Quote from: CJay on October 13, 2016, 11:25:29 amTheir lifetime pension after they leave office keeps them off the streets for life

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 11:49:02 am
content: Trump is a retard alright, but it does get worse. Just one example of many, the Philippine president (that's actual president, as opposed to an unlikely to ever be elected moron) meanwhile is encouraging citizens of his country to kill each other amongst other things.http://time.com/4462352/rodrigo-duterte-drug-war-drugs-philippines-killing/Trumps "locker room" talk and popularity which has aroused so much confected outrage and alarm the world over looks rather tame in comparison.....QuoteQuoteNot expecting a (fuckwit) Greens senator to pass a motion in parliament condemning this thing any time soon.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 12:38:50 pm
content: It shows how intolerant and small minded those people are. Anyone dare to voice anything remotely divergent from their views are evil, stupid, bigot, morons, ....It is no surprising, however. The most intolerant are often those that preach tolerance to others. The most racist are often those who accuse others of being racist....

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 11:15:56 pm
content: Quote from: StuUK on October 13, 2016, 10:42:41 amNot really---they are the "upper" house of a State Parliament.Shame,though,it gave the Poms an opportunity to sneer at Australia.In the UK.sneering at any & all "foreigners"*is a popular pastime,but usually more the Daily Mail's thing than that of the BBC.*Aussies are only regarded as "British" when there is something really nasty going for the "British",like a War!

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 11:58:08 pm
content: Quote from: RGB255_0_0 on October 13, 2016, 10:21:24 amNothing wrong with good old Pauline! She is just a little... unorthodox and not politically correct. ;-) I personally don't mind her, she shakes the major parties up a bit.Quote from: dannyf on October 13, 2016, 12:38:50 pm100% agree dannyf.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 14, 2016, 01:21:42 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on October 13, 2016, 11:58:08 pmYes, Pauline does shake things up a bit - which is not a bad thing ... but she comes across too much like Donald Trump for my liking.Ohhhh... there's a thought........ Donald Trump for President and Pauline for our PM

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2016, 07:26:54 am
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on October 13, 2016, 11:15:56 pmNot this Pom, I wish our politicians would be as forthright. Mind you, I do have 'Stralian relatives and friends.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2016, 07:49:48 am
content: Quote from: CJay on October 14, 2016, 07:26:54 amNor me! Our's are just as bad....

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2016, 09:22:46 am
content: Speaking of .au, today's SMBC is relevanthttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-monster-4Tim

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2016, 01:10:52 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on October 13, 2016, 11:58:08 pmI can't give references, but I recall around the time One Nation formed, rumor was the Liberal party power structure had recognized there was a swell of public feeling against the way Australia was (is) being run as a puppet of foreign corporate/US interests. It was realized a nationalist party could arise, and challenge the existing two-party control structure. And so they (names were given, but I forget) considered potential leaders for such a new party, and chose Pauline. The requirements were: would be popular with voters, but also an idiot. Thus ensuring ultimate ignominious failure, poisoning the nationalist movement for quite a while.A few other moles were placed in One Nation too, allowing for things like that party registration goof, and Pauline's setup for the charges that killed her career.This kind of process is sop in politics. For another example I personally experienced seehttp://everist.org/NobLog/20160629_broken_pipe_dreams.htm#greenQuoteSeconded. However, two comments:1. You both seem to assume all such people actually believe their spiel. As opposed to presenting a completely false public facade, as a means to achieve ideological objectives entirely different from what they claim. Actually it's a mix - there are the deceivers, and the gullible believers.2. A common motivation in those who make an effort to preach, is a fundamental belief that they are *right*. And of course since they are *right*, there is no possible way anyone could honestly disagree. Therefore all opposition must be for evil reasons, must be eliminated, and any measures whatsoever to eliminate it are OK. A mindset particularly prevalent among progressive/leftists, since that usually also means a 'relativist' moral position. Which means 'there's no such thing as morals'.

author: Kuro
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2016, 02:53:51 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on October 15, 2016, 01:10:52 amYou were doing quite well up to here. Looking at the state of Europe, with Pegida/AFD in Germany, NVA/VB in Belgium, FN in France, and... what's the party's name of that bleeched baboon in Holland again? All of these are right wing extremists who fit your description of fundamentalists, who cannot accept any criticism or opposition without vilifying their opponents as evil incarnated.If you insist on the common but old model of 'left-right', you will find these fundamentalists equally distributed on both outer edges of the spectrum.Personally, I've only had trouble with the right wing version. The left wing version is huffy and arrogant, self-absorbed. The right wing type came at me with a knife (though a much smaller version than Dave's cute little unpacking tool).

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2016, 03:06:37 pm
content: Quote from: dannyf on October 13, 2016, 12:38:50 pmThe problem here is that now the mainstream media also does that. Basically they reduced themselves from professional journalists to political hacks.

author: vodka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2016, 08:01:36 pm
content: Quote from: Kuro on October 15, 2016, 02:53:51 pmThe Right-wing as fascist term that are used very abuse for insulting to adversary when they haven't for response . And the problem of the europe aren't the Right -wing parties, they arise due to a determinate needs that the normal people aren't satisfied by the traditionals parties.All the word know the Osama history , the syrian refuge that was kicked by the hungarian journalist. Finally ,the spanish goverment granted him the refugee condition and he was hired by a Club Football (kicked to nuts to the spanish jobless trainers ), a home with all the bills paid by Club (other kicked to the nuts for the legal inmigrants and nationals) and the education and healthy .The last Osama new's , he has been FIRED BY HE DON'T LEARN SPANISH.. Now the traca , he claims that the football club he has used by his fame.https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/221245-osama-refugiado-pateado-periodistaQuoteAnd you said him for drewing the knife, that is for showing that the right -wing is violent by nature and the left-wing are peaceful and doing the love.The peaceful left-wing:Two Guardia Civil and their girlfriends are lynched by 50 abertzales(left-wings).http://www.libertaddigital.com/espana/2016-10-15/salvaje-agresion-de-los-cachorros-de-eta-a-dos-guardias-civiles-y-sus-parejas-en-alsasua-1276584560/Attack to two women with spanish flags by men related with CUP(left-wing)https://youtu.be/iUlzhEi9vuUEight arrested antifascists who took to the 'posh hunting' and attacked those who were with brandshttp://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2016/07/06/577d284e46163f26048b466b.htmlOkupas (squats left-wing) manifesting peacefulhttps://youtu.be/n1o-tSNnqQA?t=1m10shttps://youtu.be/500CyraBYPk

author: Circlotron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2016, 08:07:32 pm
content: Trump is in good company, apparently. Check the list of US presidents.http://pickeringpost.com/story/we-blokes-don-t-mind-being-treated-as-sex-objects/6520

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2016, 08:17:12 pm
content: I'm beginning to like this thread.Too bad our politicians are about as distant from engineers as you could imagine.

author: elgonzo
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 15, 2016, 09:00:03 pm
content: Why is there still a debate? A quick lesson is in order...The Right is right. It isn't so hard to understand. It is even literally in their moniker: The Right is about things that are right.And the Left? Is the Left right? No, of course not. The Left is about things that are wrong. Their moniker "Left" is about things that are left when all the right things are taken away. And what are those things? Exactly...

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2016, 11:15:55 pm
content: Quoteyeah. and they have been doing that for years. it is just that with the proliferation of the internet, more and more people are coming to that conclusion now.MSM is nothing but propaganda, both on the left and on the right.

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 10:20:42 am
content: Quote from: GK on October 13, 2016, 11:49:02 amA Green (or Greenie) is defined as tree-hugger who does blink an eye if one of their flock (a tree) falls on a roof of a house in a storm and kills an infant.The reason you cannot bulldoze Greens is planting dope is illegal.

author: ajb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 05:30:18 pm
content: Quote from: Circlotron on October 16, 2016, 10:10:39 amTrump was boasting about sexual assault. What does Beyonce, or what she chooses to wear have to do with that? Absolutely nothing. Attempting to juxtapose the two only perpetuates the reprehensible notion that victims of sexual assault are somehow to blame for the crimes committed against them. It doesn't matter in the slightest what a person is wearing, up to and including being completely buck naked, you do not have the right to touch them without their consent. Ever.

author: boffin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 07:12:05 pm
content: Quote from: ajb on October 16, 2016, 05:30:18 pmTrying to compare one person forcing themselves on another, vs someone wearing sexy clothes? That's back to the "she asked for it" defence. it was stupid then, it's stupid now.

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 07:38:38 pm
content: *Cough*Saying clothes don't make a statement, is denying the message of wearing a sign that says "FUCK ME".Not that you'd ever expect to see someone in public wearing such a sign, but would such a sign not constitute a clear message of consent?Clothes are fashionable because they make a statement. Saying they don't make a statement, is denying one of their fundamental purposes.(Now let's see how many people fully misinterpret my rhetorical method here and call me a misogynist. 10, 9, 8...)Tim

author: ajb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 08:04:18 pm
content: Except there is no outfit that is equivalent to wearing a "fuck me" sign. If clothing makes a statement, then I guess you could say that sexy clothing makes the statement "look at my sexy body", but that's a world away from "touch me" let alone "fuck me". And anyway, the "statement" made by an outfit is highly subject to interpretation, and if you listen--really listen--to the stories of people who have been sexually harassed if not assaulted if notraped, clothing makes zero difference.Clothing is not consent.Lack of clothingis not consent. Sexual contact without consent is sexual assault if not rape. End of story.

author: Kuro
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 08:18:24 pm
content: Quote from: vodka on October 15, 2016, 08:01:36 pmI never used the term fascist, only 'extremist' and I believe that term covers the political populist parties I mentioned perfectly. Feel free to name ultra leftwing parties and use the same term.Also, if you think these parties, left or right, serve the 'needs' of the dissatisfied you are naive. They are using them for their purposes, nothing more. If you think the complex problems of our time are so easily solved at the push of a button, as these politicians claim, think again. In fact, that's something everyone should do these days: think for themselves instead of letting fear do their 'thinking' for them and allow them to be driven into the arms of populists.Quote from: vodka on October 15, 2016, 08:01:36 pmI have not followed this story, so I'll take your word for it that this is the correct tale and not some tabloid piece of fiction. However, are you using this example to say that all Syrian refugees are no good? Quite a generalization, if this is what you meant.Quote from: vodka on October 15, 2016, 08:01:36 pmNo, again you have not read what I said. Again, you are over generalizing. I said MY problems with the left wing sofar were non-violent, as opposed to one right wing nutter with a knife. I never claimed left wing extremists are not capable of violence too. As you yourself point out, they are. However, the current state of Europe is such, that in general, populist right wing movements are the most violent. In 10 years, that may be different again, like it was in the past, like last century where left wing terrorists were active all over Europe.

author: Kuro
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 08:25:35 pm
content: Quote from: elgonzo on October 15, 2016, 09:00:03 pmI cannot make out if you're joking or trolling or seriousBe more clear. In case you're interested, look up the history of where the terms right and left for politics came from (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics) - it was merely a matter of seating orderBy your logic though, Aussies, Brittish, etc are all driving on the wrong side of the road. Why won't you learn?

author: vodka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 08:53:27 pm
content: Quote from: T3sl4co1l on October 16, 2016, 07:38:38 pmPssst , there are very women that when they see a rich man , suddenly their panties drop her feets and other have reddened knees and not for being goods christians.About as the women wear for showing the meat(practically naked) ,they do it for displayed to men and other women. Now it isn't necessary that a man touch to woman for considerating sexual harassment, simply if you stay watching her too time ,too is harassament ; inclusive if you make a compliment as "She has a nice combed" or if you ask her for taking something.This last was happened to two man, these two poor man with a possible visual deficiency did a compliment (" She was a very good")and asked to the Barcelona Major for to meet for taking something.The major convocated a press conference for telling that she had sufferd a sexual harassment being Major .http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2778814/0/colau-acoso-sexual/

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 09:03:12 pm
content: QuoteI don't think that's the case at all. Trump has been known to be rich, but no women had come out accusing him of wrong doings. Until he runs against Mrs. Clinton.So your theory of women being attracted to riches is simply untrue.

author: HackedFridgeMagnet
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 09:26:05 pm
content: https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/04/16/trump/P6jVWXAzaG12Ou5dPXYCDL/story.htmlHe's definitely more sexist than a slug.QuoteThis at least was news well before he ran for President.http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/a-running-list-of-all-the-women-whove-accused-donald-trump-of-sexual-assault_us_57ffae1fe4b0162c043a7212I don't think he will make a good President, as his mind is on other stuff.It is not at all surprising that all the skeletons are coming out now, Presidents and wanna be Presidents are under under constant scrutiny, some of it ridiculous. eg. Obama's birth certificate, "Swift boats for Truth" or whatever they called themselves.

author: Circlotron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 10:50:46 pm
content: Quote from: ajb on October 16, 2016, 05:30:18 pmI think the point was that Michelle Obama was portraying herself and perhaps her whole family as morally impeccable, blushing snowflakes, thereby making Trump's improper comments look even worse. Barack Obama's statement about Beyoncé shows that in fact they have no problem with her lack of modesty when drawing attention to herself. So we have this dichotomy.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2016, 11:51:58 pm
content: Quotespot on.the fact that it needs to be so explicitly restated to be understood is sad, however.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 12:36:23 am
content: this beyonce vs. role model discussion reminds me of those who criticize trump's demeaning of women, rightfully so. The curious thing is that those same people would insist that we respect some people's stoning of women for showing their faces, to wear "non-compliant" clothes, or to follow their love.it is confusing, to say the least.

author: ajb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 12:59:24 am
content: Quote from: Circlotron on October 16, 2016, 10:50:46 pmThen it's more or less exactly as I described. It's attempting to undermine legitimate outrage at Trump's boasts about committing sexual assault by saying "but Beyonce doesn't dress modestly!", as if the two things are remotely comparable. They are not comparable--they are not even related! The fact that some woman completely unrelated to Trump chooses to dress in a way that does not conform to your idea of modesty (whatever that is), or the fact that the Obamas thinks she has admirable qualities in spite of her supposed 'immodesty', has fuck all to do with the fact that Trump boasted about committing sexual assault, and has in fact been repeatedly accused of doing exactly as he boasted. The only way that the way Beyonce dresses is remotely relevant to the allegations against Trump is if you think that what a person chooses to wear (or not wear) makes them responsible for sexual crimes committed against them. That belief is sexist, factually wrong, and morally reprehensible.By the way, the fact that you chose the term "modesty" is worth noting, considering that as a concept it is entirely subjective and is largely rooted in using religion to control of women's sexuality. Hardly a good basis for a secular (or at least non-denominational) and liberty-minded society!

author: ajb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 01:04:01 am
content: Quote from: dannyf on October 17, 2016, 12:36:23 amOkay, I'm curious, which people are these, who criticize Trump's sexism and alleged sexual assault and yet support the stoning of women for immodesty? Are these actual people you've observed, or did you just make this up so you could shake your head at some composite strawman hypocrite? Be specific and please share your sources.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 01:07:49 am
content: That's a side show. The Clintons and the mainstream media distract from Wikileaks revelations and Clinton's corruptions and people fall for it. She corrupts whatever she touches, Sate Department, FBI, DOJ, DNC, MSM, and soon the Whitehouse. I feel sad for my country.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 01:10:55 am
content: It's a real shame that the best candidates for president that America's political parties could come up with are Trump and Clinton. I certainly don't think Trump is all that great, but another four years with a liar in the White House is not something I'd vote for.

author: VulcanBB18
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 09:17:43 am
content: Get real. All politicians lie, you can't make a choice on that.Clinton is no saint, but at least she appears to have a semi-rational head on her shoulders.Setting aside the huge swathe of issues Trump has, the biggest one is that his personal narcissism is not suited to international politics. He's all butt-hurt from his terrible attitude to women being exposed - bad luck, that is part of being a politician and after his try-hard I'm-a-media-mogul approach he should be aware of that.If he can't set aside his personal ego dent from that scandal - you're not fit for office buddy. Imagine him in office, one international misunderstanding, or gasp, insult and he'd be building walls, firing weapons, creating sanctions... this is not the way we want to go in the modern world.cheers,

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 10:19:10 am
content: Quoteit boils down to this: electing trump is terrible in the short term; electing clinton is terrible in the long term.If the government is supposed to be of the people, for the people and by the people, it should be natural for it to be led by an outsider. if it doesn't feel natural there, it is because the government has moved away from its mandate and it becomes necessary for it to be led by an outsider.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 10:31:10 am
content: Quote from: rdl on October 17, 2016, 01:10:55 amWhat are you saying Trump is not a liar? He is, just as much as Clinton. They're both liars. You have no choice but to have a liar in the White House.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 10:48:47 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 13, 2016, 11:27:10 amI would seriously consider paying off politicians. Just ask them: How much are you planning to steal, during your career? Please, take that and then some, and never show your face to the public again.Every job has interview, so on, so managers/HR can decide if the applicant is right for it. People work, and actually care about what they do. Politicians? A mob, kept together by a common goal (moar money), whoever has the "connections" or a straight face while lying.

author: Circlotron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 11:48:40 am
content: The only time a politician tells the truth is when they call another politician a liar.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 12:00:33 pm
content: Quote from: Circlotron on October 17, 2016, 11:48:40 amYou sure?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 03:37:25 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on October 17, 2016, 10:48:47 am

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 11:12:20 pm
content: "bird dogging", that's the new phrase I learned today,I think it is trending up.