are RF/EMF/EMR Radiation emitted from Wiimotes dangerous? - Page 1
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author: blueagent004
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 15, 2023, 09:39:48 am
content: i found this old video where someone was using a radiation meter to see how much RF/EMF/EMR Radiation was emitting from nintendo wii consoles and the wiimotesi played with the wiimotes all the time with my buddy who is also a cancer survivor (from a few years ago), should we stop using the wiimotes at this point because we hold it so close to our bodies?just following the precautionary principle due to my buddy's chronic illness, not trying to scare everyone on the forums from using their wiimotes.thank you all so much in advance for your expert opinion and knowledge on this topic!

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 15, 2023, 09:58:54 am
content: 30 mW/m2 is not so high, such a power cannot do direct damage to the human body. But long exposure may lead to some changes in a body cells biochemistry and rhythms. So, it may lead to a headache, psychological and nervous disorders and may be even cancer. It depends on many factors, such as exposure duration, power, frequency, modulation waveform, personal characteristics of the body immune system and it's current state, etc. So, there is some risk, that long exposure can affect your health, but it depends on many factors. The same some random particle at home may appears radioactive and it may break DNA of some cell in a body, this is more dangerous, but that doesn't means that it will leads to a cancer, but there is some risk that it can... Anyway this doesn't means that home cause cancer.The whole life is not safe, the risk is everywhere...The conclusion, for a short exposure time it can be assumed as safe.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 15, 2023, 05:12:24 pm
content: well in that case better not stand and sit next to people with cell phones, have a modern car that has a cell uplink, basically avoid the city.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2023, 08:11:04 am
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on April 15, 2023, 05:12:24 pmit has a sense when power flux density exceeds the safety limits. For a cell phone it really place to be, but for a very short distance - about 10-15 cm from a cell phone. When you keep the phone close enough to the head, it's power flux density exceed safety limits, but if you keep on some distance, it's almost ok.This is because flux power density drops down as distance is increased.Also, note that the cell phone doesn't transmit all the time, it has transmission just when you're talking on the phone or during messaging. When the phone is just in your pocket and there is no active call, or internet transfer, there is no transmission and no RF exposure.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2023, 02:55:56 pm
content: until it autoupdates your immune system

author: blueagent004
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2023, 03:54:53 am
content: Quote from: radiolistener on April 15, 2023, 09:58:54 amthanks so much for sharing your expert knowledge radiolistener! i greatly appreciate your input in this. it looks like we'll have to refrain from playing with the wii for too long as a precaution. now i'm glad we switched over to a wired controller some time ago, for other consoles like the ps3/xbox.a few years ago people were talking about the apple airpods or whatever it was called giving people brain tumors but people kept on using it anyway.also around that time the local news reported a whole family of 4 people who all got cancer at the same time after a cellular network repeater/dish/emitter was installed at the apartment across their street and they cried while being interviewed on TV because they couldn't sell their apartment, and that they know their cancer will come back because the repeater dish is still there.Quote from: radiolistener on April 16, 2023, 08:11:04 amthank you so much also for this detailed and informative post, radiolistener! you're so knowledgeable! i honestly did not know about the distance thing, it certainly is very sound advice. unfortunately i've got alot of smarphone apps so my phone are constantly fetching data from the background 24/7, but now i know better so from now on i think it'd be a good idea keep that thing a little further away.i remembered in the late 1990s my parents made me promise not to talk on the cellphone for too long, that was one of the conditions i had to agree on before they'll buy my first cellphone for me, since even our school teacher was saying how we shouldnt use too much cellphones because cellphones radiation are harmful, and also that it kills bees by screwing up their antenna so they couldn't find their way back to the hive, which will affect our eco-system in the future or something.also in the early 2000s i recalled my uncle would frequently yelled at my cousin for using the cordless phone for hours, repeatably saying that its not good for her head, or somewhere along with what people were saying about cordless phones being harmful back then. anyways my uncle eventually threw the cordless phone away and they got into this huge fight screaming at each other....LOL

author: Marsupilami
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2023, 04:02:28 am
content: Quote from: radiolistener on April 15, 2023, 09:58:54 amYou mean "may" as in may in some people, or may as it has not been explicitly ruled out?I'm seriously looking to learn something new here, but my current understanding is that despite thousands of studies in the last 30 or so years no demonstrable health effect has been found from low level non-ionizing EM radiation.I know about the child leukemia vs power lines studies and there's a lot seems to be going on in investigating possible microbiological effects, but I'm yet to see scientific consensus on everyday EMF giving anyone a headache.No?

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2023, 09:42:26 am
content: Quote from: Marsupilami on April 17, 2023, 04:02:28 amModern science doesn't have answer on that question, because it is too complicated and depends on many factors.But, you're needs to understand, that cell phone radiation power (it's about 2 Watts) is not enough to make immediate thermal damage to the body. So, you even cannot feel if your body is under exposure of a high strength RF field.The effect of such exposure can happens after a long period of exposure (months, years or something like that), some science research shows that such exposure affects biological processes in a cells, but it's not clear if such changes can lead to disease or not and how it happens. Some animal testing shows that some animals got a cancer, some shows that they don't, so there is no clear knowledge on how it works and why in some cases it affects and in other doesn't affect health.With cell phone things even a bit more complicated, because it is use packet transmission with pauses, so the peak power can be extreme high and exceed safety limits, but it's average power over a several seconds can fits into safety limits. And there is no public research on how such pulse power modulation can affect the health.But anyway there is definitely no 100% immediate danger. Such a risk can throw up if a human is exposed to a constant radiation for a long time. Cell phone doesn't have constant radiation, because in such case it will eat battery very quickly and going to power off.So, if you keep your phone on some distance during call you're minimize such a risk. I think even 5-10 cm distance from cell phone to a body is enough to reduce RF field strength to acceptable level. And even if you keep your phone 1-2 cm from head it is enough to significantly reduce effect of RF field exposure. This is because near field zone of transmission antenna has about 1/r^3 attenuation, where r is the distance, so the power drops down very fast with the distance at near field zone.Also, there is interesting thing, the smaller transmitter antenna is more dangerous than a large one. This is because smaller antenna needs a very high Q and as result it has extreme strong E and H field strength in a near field zone of antenna. Large antenna has a smaller Q factor and as result it has smaller E and H field strength in a near field zone of antenna. So, a larger antenna is more safe than the smaller one.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2023, 06:07:05 pm
content: karpouzi9While I'm not support conspiracy theories, and you're right that RF emission from cell phone doesn't damage DNA directly, because there is not enough power. But on the other hand, saying that it doesn't cause changes in cells or cancer is also lie.You can easily find works with experiments that shows significant change in a cell functions after long term exposure with GSM pattern RF field. For example:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5509895/QuoteAs you can see, the study shows that long term exposure from a cell phone can lead to damage genes, essential for neuronal development, but cellular and molecular mechanisms which is involved in that is currently unknown and needs more study and research.Note, that this is not simple "heating" effect, there are many other much more complicated things in cellular and molecular mechanics which can also lead to a gene damage, due to a long exposure effect.It requires complicated research and investigation in order to understand how these changes can affect health. So, talking "it is safe" is a bigger lie and is even more dangerous, than talking that it leads to a DNA damage. Yes, it doesn't lead to direct DNA damage (like it happens with X-ray or radioactive isotopes), but it can affect it in the way which is unknown for the current science.Here is some quote fromAmerican Cancer Society site:Quote

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 19, 2023, 07:46:19 pm
content: OK, lets start with the baseline, the earth gets 1kW/sqm of electromagnetic radiation from the sun so if you are worried about "signals" that are a millionth of that then go and get an education!

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2023, 08:44:21 pm
content: Remember that the bad effects of electromagnetic radiation vary considerably with the (photon) energy level.You need to calculate the effects of solar radiation, modified by clothing and shelter, over the energy spectrum received terrestially.In radiation safety considerations, RBE (relative biological effectiveness) of electromagnetic radiation and charged particles scales the damage per absorbed dose to a standard type of radiation, conventionally ionizing photons.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2023, 11:01:48 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on April 19, 2023, 07:46:19 pmIt is not "millionth of that".The power flux density at RF band from the Sun has about 1400 W/m^2 above Earth atmosphere and about max 100 W/m^2 at Earth ground due to atmosphere attenuation. It consists of noise.Mobile phone at 5 cm distance has power flux density about 0.3 W/cm^2, which is equivalent of 3000 W/m^2 for a plane wave from the Sun, but almost all power is focused at a sharp frequency and also modulated with specific low frequency pattern. At shorter distance power flux density from mobile phone will be even higher.So, the mobile phone at 5 cm distance has about 30 times higher power flux density than radiation from the Sun at the Earth ground.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2023, 11:23:42 pm
content: Quote from: karpouzi9 on April 17, 2023, 11:21:29 pmWho knows... I'm not sure about BT, but WiFi is not so weak as I thought before. Some time ago I played with high speed ADC and catch some strange high power DC spikes that happens even with open input (which is shortened with about 60 Ω resistor for 50 Ω matching). First I thought that this is some DSP chain bug. But after further investigation I found that the root of cause for these spikes is WiFi router which is placed 1 meter away from the ADC boardWhen I disable WiFi on the router DC spikes completely disappears.So, WiFi is not such a weak signal...

author: blueagent004
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2023, 12:53:11 am
content: thanks for sharing everything you know on this subject radiolistener! i'm still re-reading and digesting everything and i truly appreciate all the knowledge you've shared with me, especially with your post yesterday about WIFI router, while we don't have one, my apartment and my workplace is surrounded by a large number of wifi hotspots so i guess there's nothing i can do about that, unfortunately, its part of living in the city i guess.Also thanks to other people who have contributed as well, i'm still reading everything as of writing.the city where i resided is within the range of 9 nuclear reactors, there had been several city wide panic in the past, after an incident in 2016 and also more recently in 2021.even back in 2011 the locals here were stocking up on tinfoil wrap to seal their apartment windows thinking it'd somehow blocked out the radiation that'll drift over here from elsewhere in japan, where the fukushima nuclear plant was going into meltdown, meanwhile i ordered some IOSAT branded iodine (which was running out everywhere) for all my little cousins, as i tried to convince my aunts and uncles to let my little bros and sis take the iodine should the time comes when the mushroom cloud would reach here. (they initially refused until the government announced that they will distribute iodine and announce in advance for us to consume them should the situation worsen).more recently japan is dumping the fukushima's nuclear reactive waste water and people here are again, worried about its effects on our water, with lesser people here buying and consuming seafood from japan because of this.after all these incidents i realize there's nothing one can do about harmful radioactive stuff floating around in the air, but after the activation of 5G network my buddy got cancer too, and one of my aunt died from her tumor while the other survived due to her tumor being early stage 1. but we can't do anything about 5G because its in the air and the government said its safe (although i have my own opinion on that)for bluetooth stuff atleast now we know not to hold it so close to our bellies for hours on end over the weekend. because these are easy things that we can do to minimize the risk, admist the nuclear reactors, the 5G and the dozen Wifi hotspot which surrounds us, that we can't do anything about........but we are not trying to start a scare on the forums, we just think it'd be better to play a little less "Super Smash Bros" and "negima neo pactio" on the wii from now on. better safe than sorry, right?

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2023, 01:07:26 am
content: Quote from: blueagent004 on April 20, 2023, 12:53:11 amWow

author: blueagent004
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2023, 01:26:43 am
content: Quote from: Bud on April 20, 2023, 01:07:26 amYUP people were lining up outside of places that would sell rolls of tinfoil wrap and prices were going through the roof to hundreds for dollars, poorer families were still paying through the noses for sheets .And it wasn't just the tinfoil, it was the salt, yes DA SALT. word was going around on the streets that if you consume a large amount of salt, it'll absorb ALL the radiation which willl natrually be excreted from the body. i saw on the news where the doctors were telling people to stop eating crap load of salt, especially for people with CKD or they'll lose their kidneys. i literally called all my little bro and sis one after another and asked "did your friends tell you to eat alot of salt???!!!"so that's what happened back then.....lol

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2023, 01:33:05 am
content: Quote from: Simon on April 19, 2023, 07:46:19 pmAlso, for millennia people have cozied up to open fires, which generate quite high levels of electromagnetic radiation, which we enjoy as warmth.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2023, 01:38:44 am
content: Quote from: radiolistener on April 19, 2023, 11:23:42 pmOr 1 metre is a very short distance, & high speed ADCs are not optimised for RF immunity.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2023, 09:56:21 am
content: Quote from: blueagent004 on April 20, 2023, 01:26:43 amAre you joking? These things about protecting from radiation with a tin foil, salt, stickers and other bullshit is just a stupid joke..Some Chinese guys selling "magic" stickers with "Scalar Energy" which "protects from radiation", of course that is complete bullshit, but they are put radioactive waste in these stickers, so they are radioactive (you can check it with a Geiger–Müller counter) and really can cause cancer if you handle it every day, with no joke...Here is example:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003467530150.htmlSo just don't believe any bullshit about "protection"...Quote from: vk6zgo on April 20, 2023, 01:38:44 amI think it affects buffer amplifier on the input. The main iterference power was concentrated at about 0-400 kHz. But I was really impressed how strong WiFi emission is, so it can even affect nearby electronics at low frequency, previously I just thought it's even cannot be detected without sensitive spectrum analyzer which covers 2.4 GHz band. And the thing that impressed me is that it affects device at so low frequency (at kHz range).

author: Manul
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2023, 05:25:05 pm
content: I would argue, that the damage caused by stress and anxiety is many times worse than any RF exposure.Susceptible individuals might snowball into serious neurotic conditions, thinking about the harm caused by WiFi, Bluetooth, cell phones, 5G etc. Constantly contemplating, seeking and finding information that confirms their beliefs of harm and ignoring the rest. It's so underrated how dangerous it is for mental and physical health.I can tell you one thing: I have lots of stress in my life. I've noticed that whenever I stress a lot, I often get colds and infections. It affects the immune system. The immune system links to cancer risk. I kid you not, I would allow a 5G antenna to be installed inside my house and I would sleep every night on a Bluetooth enabled pillow in exchange for eliminating stress from my life.No one says that it's a good idea to climb and hug a radar antenna. Because you might fall while climbing and injure yourself. Just kidding. But really, don't worry about Bluetooth.

author: blueagent004
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 01:23:51 am
content: Quote from: radiolistener on April 20, 2023, 09:56:21 amAmen to that.its unfortunate senior citizens gets preyed on by opportunists selling all kinds of crap like the Scala stickers you mentioned. a few years back there were also these "health vests" that was popular with seniors back then, because they were misled into believing that the special "stones" inside these health vest can help alleviate their back and joint pain, but an expert tested them on TV and said inside they only contained regular fridge magnets with no special health benefits whatsoever.anyways here's some funny accounts of the salt freakout incident from back then."Chinese man left in a pickle after $4000 salt spree - Reuters""Fearing Radiation from Japan, Chinese Rush to Buy...Table Salt? - WSJ"that being the case, i lost 250 us dollars worth of iodine which was never used.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 04:58:43 am
content: Iodine is a great antiseptic. You can use to desinfect around wounds, skin cuts and stuff.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 11:59:06 am
content: The safety limits are well below the level required to inflict injury. Even if they're exceeded, no harm will be done.Regarding RF and cancer: it's all BS. There's no plausible mechanism of action. RF is non-ionising radiation. It doesn't have enough energy to chemically alter DNA, which would cause cancer. All it does is heat body tissues, which is why it's harmful at high intensities. It penetrates more deeply into the body, than shorter wavelengths, allowing it to heat sensitive organs, such as the brain, which is why high intensity RF needs to be treated with more caution, than infrared, but the levels emitted by a phone or remote are far too low, to cause significant heating.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 12:22:53 pm
content: Quote from: Zero999 on April 21, 2023, 11:59:06 amYou're mistake. Even if RF transmitter has low enough power output to not apply direct thermal or ionizing damage, it still can affect live cells due to a different complex molecular and cellular mechanics. But usually it needs long RF exposure to detect significant change and such change depends on many factors, for example - frequency, power, modulation envelope and also depends on exact type of cell and it's state.Long time RF exposure can lead to a change in a live cells, it is already proven in a lot of science study. It still unknown if such change is linked or can lead to a serious disease (such as cancer) and how it happens, because this is too complicated a very complex topic which involve a bunch of advanced science knowledge in different areas - physics, biochemistry, RF engineering, genetic engineering, math and many other things.Quote from: Zero999 on April 21, 2023, 11:59:06 amalso mistake, mobile phone has about 2 W transmitter. At near field zone from transmitter antenna (which is about 16-33 cm for GSM) it easy exceeds all safety limits for magnetic and electric field strength. Also it's peak power flux density exceeds safety limits even in a far field zone of antenna, but it's average value in a far field zone may fit with safety limits because mobile phone don't use continuous transmission, it uses short high power pulses to send the packet. It allows representative of communication company to use manipulations in order show "safe" numbers and to hide unpleasant details.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 12:46:37 pm
content: Quote from: radiolistener on April 21, 2023, 12:22:53 pmOooh Different, complex molecular and cellular mechanics. . .Thanks for proving my point: there's no plausible mechancism of RF causing cancer.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 01:08:44 pm
content: Quote from: Zero999 on April 21, 2023, 12:46:37 pmIs this your personal opinion, just because someone told you? Or may be you have a link on a science study and research which proves that changes caused by long RF exposure in a live cells cannot lead to any kind of disease and especially cannot cause cancer?I'm asking you, just because current science cannot have answer on the question if such change (which is already proved, see link above for example) is linked with cancer or other diseases or not. So, I wonder why you are so sure that these changes are not connected in any way with cancer?I just repeat it, if you didn't read it carefuly:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5509895/QuoteAs you can see, there is your mistake. RF exposure can damage genes without direct heating or ionizing effect and this is proven by science study.This will probably be a surprising discovery for you, but living cells are rather complex molecular mechanisms that are subject to a variety of external factors, including electric and RF fields. There are many possible mechanisms for this. For example, the direct effect of an electric field on the distribution of molecules in a cell (because they have electric charge) or an indirect mechanical pressure effect on molecules due to thermal pulses of a certain frequency. The cell can restore it's state after such impact if it was a single short effect of such impact. But if the cell is subjected to the constant long-term impact of such external influence, it can lead to significant changes in the structure of the cell, including damage to the genome and even death of the cell.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 03:57:32 pm
content: Quote from: radiolistener on April 21, 2023, 12:22:53 pmOK, you can stop right there and explain what these "different complex molecular and cellular mechanics" are. You can't make ao statement like that and expect it gives you the authority to tell us what you think. Evidence please.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 04:10:04 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on April 21, 2023, 03:57:32 pmSorry, but I'm not expert in that area. As I know, such area is still unknown for the science, so there is no model which explains how it works. The same as there is still no universal physics model which combine gravitation and electromagnetic forces. I just quoted the text from science research paper:QuoteI also remember other science paper with research of such mechanics, if I remember correctly they proposed model, where RF field of specific frequency and modulation pattern leads to a movement of some molecules in the cell due to it's electric charge interaction with EM fields, and after a long period of RF exposure it leads to a significant structural changes inside cell and as result it's biochemistry and cell functions are broken.I just wanted to note that the cell is more complex structure and can be affected in different way than direct damage with thermal or ionizing impact.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 04:22:42 pm
content: The study was on rat cells in a test tube. I can find studies which suggest hydroxychloroquine destroys SARS-Cov-2 in cultured cells, in a lab, but there is no real world evidence of its efficacy in real humans.You admit, you're not an expert, so perhaps you should stop searching for studies you don't understand, in order to support your hypothesis. It just indicates ignorance.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 04:33:09 pm
content: Zero999Note, you're claimed that the long RF exposure cannot lead to a cancer. But this is false claim. There is no scientific evidence that it cannot lead to a cancer.On the contrary there are exists a lot of studies with evidence that RF exposure can leads to a cell structural changes which may be linked with cancer and other diseases. This is not an evidence that these structural changes are linked with cancer, but this is an evidence that it may be linked.If you don't understand and don't know something this is not an evidence that this is impossible.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 05:07:44 pm
content: I do understand that cancer occurs when the DNA in cells mutates and the immune system doesn't detect it, which allows it to keep multiplying to the point of going out of control. Only ionising radiation, or certain chemicals can cause these mutations and RF has far too lower energy to induce any mutations. The burden of proof lies with you to prove otherwise, since you're the one making such an extortionary claim.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 06:49:27 pm
content: Quote from: radiolistener on April 21, 2023, 04:10:04 pmYou play the classic conspiracy game of acting all meek and ignorant and "just passing it on" then you start telling us how in fantasy land it works.Evidence, or get out of here!

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 06:53:26 pm
content: Quote from: Zero999 on April 21, 2023, 05:07:44 pmHere is mistake. Non ionizing RF radiation can cause DNA damage.Here is quote from thispaper:Quote

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 07:06:54 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on April 21, 2023, 06:49:27 pmConspiracy here is a false claim that RF exposure cannot damage DNA. This is not true.Above, I already provided links on science papers which has evidence. And you can find more because a lot studies and research papers on that topic exists.But Zero999 just claims that it can't without any evidence, just because he don't know how it's possible. Sorry, but this is not a serious approach.Quote from: Simon on April 21, 2023, 06:49:27 pmI already provided it above. Seehereandhere.Can you see these links? I can repeat:-https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5509895/-https://www.researchgate.net/publication/215658343_Electromagnetic_fields_and_DNA_damageYou can google more, it's not hard.I don't understand why you're asking me to show the paper, when I already provided links.Do you trolling me?

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 07:26:12 pm
content: QuoteOh, expecting evidence is not a serious approach. I've clearly been deluded all my life.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 07:36:22 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on April 21, 2023, 07:26:12 pmNot serious approach is to provide claim which doesn't have scientific evidence.But there is also another not serious approach - to ask for evidence and links for papers when they are already provided.And pretend that nothing was provided after the proof was provided.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 07:46:23 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on April 21, 2023, 06:49:27 pmOh, c'mmon man, don't be so categorical. You realize same can be said about you, wright? You didn't brought any proof either. I got it you fight against conspiracies in general, but you are over-zealous. Taking the time to write to you all these because I remember once you deleted a long OP coming from a geologist, because that post was contradicting your opinions about climate change. Not nice.Just because an opinion happens to be the mainstream opinion, doesn't necessarily means it is true.About the question in the topic's title, my opinion is same as yours: I see no danger in the RF coming from a wiimote. I don't see any reason to be afraid of the weemote RF.I didn't study the influence of RF upon living bodies, so I don't really know, but what I know for sure is the video in the in the OP is trash. That video has nothing to do with science, and there is no evidence about anything in that video, nothing new or unexpected.

author: djacobow
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 07:47:19 pm
content: Of course, it's horribly dangerous. That's why millions of people who played Wii and their families all got cancer. Didn't you hear all about that on the news?

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 08:01:01 pm
content: here is yet another paper with evidence about DNA-damage from low-intensity RF exposure at GSM frequency:https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1091581815574348Quote

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 08:01:55 pm
content: Quote from: RoGeorge on April 21, 2023, 07:46:23 pmYour point being? apart from your opinion of not nice, that is your opinion and you are welcome to one of those.QuoteDid I say otherwise?

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 08:03:28 pm
content: Quote from: djacobow on April 21, 2023, 07:47:19 pmOh well of course the news was suppressed

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2023, 08:29:50 pm
content: Quote from: RoGeorge on April 21, 2023, 07:46:23 pmProbably this is not about conspiracy, but about censorship.