New Omicron Lab Bode500 with N-Type?  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: VanBudd
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 05:46:51 am
content: Just saw this picture on LinkedIn of the picotest booth at SC23, there's a Bode 500 with N-Type connectors.Does someone know anything about it?Couldn't find anything online.

author: DaJMasta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 06:08:17 am
content: Could be 7/16 DIN connectors? Could be that for some applications it's a much more compatible connector.

author: VanBudd
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 07:44:46 am
content: Quote from: DaJMasta on November 14, 2023, 06:08:17 amBesides the connector, the device clearly says Bode 500, can't find anything about it.Also on the manufacturer page says only BNC connector for Bode 100.Would be interesting if it's a new device that hasn't been released yet or is it some kind of prototype?

author: VanBudd
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 09:00:39 am
content: Found this picture on Omicron lab's linkedin, so it's definitely a new device, which hasn't been released yet.Maybe the new connectors are a hint for higher bandwidth applications?Or maybe just replaced the BNC connectors for better performance?

author: VanBudd
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 11:06:01 am
content: I've just received some information from Omicron lab.The device is currently under Test.The Bode500 should be released early 2024 and will have extended bandwidth from 1Hz-450MHz.Price should be around 15.000€.But just very early information, so the numbers can change.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 11:28:34 am
content: Why would you use N connectors at 450MHz? If you don't like BNC (which is perfectly useable at 450MHz), then SMA or SMB would be a better choice.

author: VanBudd
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 12:08:06 pm
content: I could imagine because most VNAs have N-Type as standard, so people could use their equipment they already got without adapters.

author: alm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 02:38:47 pm
content: N is a lot more robust than SMA or SMB, which were more designed as internal connectors with few insertion cycles. I have seen few full size bench instruments that use SMA connections if N would also have worked. 3.5mm or other higher performance connectors are common for higher frequencies.I think SMA is common on more hobbyist grade of equipment like NanoVNA or VNWA.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 03:11:52 pm
content: OTOH: SMA cables are much easier to work with on a bench compared to N connectors which typically have much thicker & clunkier cables.

author: Kean
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2023, 07:13:08 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on November 14, 2023, 03:11:52 pmAgreed re the cables, but the N panel connector is so much more robust.It is very easy to add some N to SMA adapters and replace them if they ever get damaged or wear out.

author: Njk
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2023, 01:10:20 am
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author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2024, 08:29:10 pm
content: There is more info on Bode 500 from OMICRON Lab. Videos on OMICRON Labs YouTube channel:Quick intro"Exploring the Bode 500 Vector Network Analyzer" with Dr. Ali Shirsavar.Comedy videoBode 500 - Insights from a Development Engineer