"Automatic", cheap wire strippers -do they deliver? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 04:10:09 pm
content: I'm in need for a wire stripper and there are numerous discussions/comparisons here on the costly "pro" ones, but what suffices for hobby use? I'm staying away from the cheapest ones, assuming they'll break down in a couple of days, but there are a few claiming to be "automatic" and which I've read blogs and postings (not here) about from people who find them very nice:Are they any good and do they last?What would an alternative to this be? Something like this perhaps, or are there better options?:

author: Avacee
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 04:35:06 pm
content: I've a pair of the second one shown that were about £8 from eBay.There's a bit of play in the grippers at the top so you can't just insert wire and squeeze - as you see in all the pretty marketing youtube videos for decent quality ones.I have to place the wire, squeeze gently to place the grippers next to the wire, hold the squeeze and align/place the grippers, put gentle pressure on the left hand gripper so it holds the wire well, and then squeeze.I have no trouble once I've lined up the grippers with anything up to 10awg or down to cheap chinese breadboard cables and given the amount I do (hobbyist) then I'm happy with the cheapo eBay purchase.I knew they'd be cheap and I got what I expected but when I replace them I'll pay the extra for something better made.Avoid if you feel you'll be using them a lot or you've got the spare cash and of course: Your Mileage May Vary.

author: Mattylad
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 04:43:38 pm
content: The top ones have been slated on Screwfix reviews - never used those myself.I use RS components supplied auto strippers 553-617 and they work well.Cheaper ebay replacements costing under £3 went straight into the bin.You get what you pay forI wont use the type where you have to pull the stripped sleeving off as I work inside sharp stainless steel cabinets.

author: P90
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 04:54:31 pm
content: I have the Irwin branded ones, made in Taiwan, look like your first and second pictures, they are pretty good. I have several of the manual strippers, I use those more often.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 07:39:14 pm
content: Yes, they do deliver, but mainly for things like mains solid core twin and earth type applications.This style work (very) much better for normal wire stripping applications:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Automatic-Electric-Cable-Wire-Stripper-Pliers-With-Extra-Blade-/142200599212?hash=item211bd0f2ac:g:-hEAAOSwnHZYQ-hDNote, ebay listing picked to find photos in a hurry. You can find them from different suppliers and with different blade aperture ranges.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 08:52:48 pm
content: I use the first type for solid and multi-stranded of 22 AWG or larger wire (maybe a little smaller). I use the second type for smaller solid wire. I use a third type for smaller stranded wire.I use heat or a melted salt pot for transformer wire that is not "solderable."Quality of the stripper is very important. Not all strippers of the same "specification" are the same.John

author: LaurentR
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 09:02:59 pm
content: The automatic strippers are good for doing a lot of repetition of the same strip on a small number of wire types. Not necessarily what a hobbyist needs.The non-gauge-based auto strippers like in the OP rely on a proper ratio between insulation diameter and core diameter. That covers 80% of the wires well and 20% poorly.The gauge-based auto strippers (like the ones Gyro pointed to) tend do do a much better job but they are a bit more finicky to use because you have to aim for the right hole and the number of holes is limited.Both types work well for removing a given range of insulator length. They don't work if you only want to remove, say, 5mm.So all in all, the automatic strippers are a bit of a niche. Useful in some cases, but you'll always need manual strippers for those odd cases. All you get in speed at the cost of control and versatility.For small electronic wires, my favorite is still the inexpensive Hakko CHP CSP-30 stripper.For house wiring (mostly large solid core, but occasional large stranded), the auto strippers could be useful if you are going to strip 100s of ends, otherwise the manual strippers will do. Most of the pro electricians I have seen use just a knife or a diagonal cutter to strip heavy gauge :-)

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 09:35:55 pm
content: I have the vise-grip version of the first models, solid tool.And for thin wires, I went for an way to expensive knipex 1242195, but all depends on which wiresize you need..

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 09:46:31 pm
content: You're right, LaurentR. I won't be doing much repetition of the same thing as this is for hobby use. I just need something that does the job well, but without paying "professional" prices. In other words I want it allSeriously though, I've been using a pair of pliers for years which of course relies on my accuracy in pressing, so sometimes it works, sometimes I have to try again (on the slightly shorter cable). So I bought my first cable stripper which looks very similar to this:The thing is it doesn't handle the thin wires I use mostly (I guess it's around 22 AWG though those numbers have never made any sense to me), so I'm in the market for another one.The reason I go for a lot of eBay stuff has a lot to do with shipping costs. Order from China and the shipping is usually "free" (included in the costs in other words, and it's still reasonable). If I order something from say, the US, the shipping alone often adds up to twice the cost of the item. No kidding! That's what you get for living outside of the US.So in conclusion, would a simple, "traditional" stripper in general do the best job without too much hassle? Seems to me, from reading the replies here, that the cheap automatic ones are nice in theory, but more of a hassle to do the job while the equivalent expensive, brand-name ones do deliver both the convenience and quality, but at a cost. So maybe with a decent "manual" one it's hard to do very badly, even though it's slightly more work to strip a wire?Neslekkim: where did you buy that automatic Vise Grip from? They do sell them on eBay for instance, but shipping alone is almost the cost of the stripper, and then with import duties and taxes added you're all of a sudden paying perhaps 4x of what they actually cost to begin with!

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2017, 09:57:44 pm
content: Quote from: analogix on June 06, 2017, 09:46:31 pmUS, but I see the prices have increased a lot (on the shiping), no customs for me, but now it seems like bigger dealThis one will not give you customs:http://www.ebay.com/itm/332225733162Atleast newer happened to me when using GSP since the customs is taken care of when you buy it, and the total incl shipping is less than NOK350.GSP takes time though, and it's not very trackable..Same with these:http://www.ebay.com/itm/332062761430total below the limit, and using USPS, so faster delivery.

author: alanb
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2017, 01:00:06 pm
content: You may fined this of interest.https://youtu.be/dSJHUUWDamAThis shows a few different types of stripper and is by a contributor to the forum.

author: 691175002
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2017, 01:36:11 pm
content: I purchased one of these many years ago and it has worked well:https://hobbyking.com/en_us/wire-strippers-cutter-2-in-1-strip-like-a-pro.htmlI've had the opportunity to try higher end strippers as well. They obviously work great, but frankly the cheapo does a good job as well. More expensive ones also tend to be much bulkier which can sometimes be a problem.No idea if I got lucky with the stripper I received, but you can adjust the tension and it handles a pretty wide range of wire gauge and insulation thickness. I also keep a pair of traditional strippers around to cover for tasks the automatic stripper isn't suited for.

author: macboy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2017, 05:27:04 pm
content: Have you ever seen something like this? I came across these for the first time today, and then again a second completely unrelated time (that kind of deja vu happens to me a lot).https://www.parallax.com/product/700-10001I don't have one, but it looks useful.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2017, 07:01:14 pm
content: I have a few pairs of Tee Strippers which are roughly like the second picture you posted. I've never found anything that works better than those. They work WAY better than the really cheap strippers that don't have overlapping blades. I hate those automatic stripper things, they're bulky and clunky and it doesn't make stripping the wire any easier.

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2017, 08:06:40 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on June 07, 2017, 07:01:14 pmWhat's a "Tee" stripper?I'm the OP and my second photo in the thread shows an automatic one, but perhaps you're referring to someone else or a different posting?I'm fine with something manual as long as it works, is of reasonable quality and isn't too complicated to use. Talking about complications: with the manual ones, is there a simple way to figure out which stripper diameter option you should use? I have no idea if a certain wire would be 22AWG, 20 AWG or whatever and would have to measure the diameter in mm, then look up on the net what that is in AWG terms.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2017, 08:08:54 pm
content: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-T-Stripper-Wire-Stripper-and-Cutter-for-10-18-AWG-Solid-Wire-45-120/100079352

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2017, 11:22:32 pm
content: Are those bottom pinch-pull types any good? Last one I had of those was a cheap as-seen-on-tv one and it exploded apart because the wire insulation was a bit crusty.

author: KL27x
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2017, 01:38:18 am
content: Quote from: tigr on June 07, 2017, 09:51:27 pmDamn this thread. Now I have to find mine. I have both of these guys, somewhere. But I hardly ever find a use for them. Not too many crawlspaces or engine compartments on my schedule. Most of my work is under a microscope. And the stripper I can't do without is the one for teeny kynar wires. I know one of these days I will end up bodging a high amp conductor using a couple dozen strands of wrapping wire, cuz that's all I will be able to find.

author: tigr
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2017, 07:52:33 pm
content: Quote from: KL27x on June 08, 2017, 01:38:18 amI use for stripping thin wires.

author: KL27x
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2017, 11:21:04 pm
content: ^ I'm sure you do. But not the way I do it.

author: shteii01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2017, 09:59:12 pm
content: I currently use scissors type wire stripper. Ideal brand, but I don't remember the model number.I like them a lot.However. At the base of the blades, by the bolt that hold the blades together, there is a cutter and I must have used it on something a bit too big, I probably used it to cut a large-ish cable. Now, when I cut stranded wires, the blade does not cut all the strands. There might be a nick in the edge of the blades, or play between the blades and the blades don't line up to cut all the strands.I am generally happy with this Ideal product and I would buy another or similar Klein tool. They do cost though.I am wondering if people have used Southwire brand of these style strippers. This is mostly for people in US since Southwire is store brand of Lowe's chain of hardware/home improvement stores in US.Another reason I don't want to buy the more expansive Ideal or Klein strippers is that I am likely to buy two strippers instead of my single tool. Some of the stranded wires that I have to work with are in the 26/28 AWG and some are in 12/10 AWG. I also wire a lot of three phase motors and our standard VFD cable for them is 14 AWG, so I strip a lot of those stranded wires. So I would buy two Southwire strippers to cover the range of wires with mostly using 14-28 AWG and using 10 AWG from time to time.Any comments on Southwire brand?Some other brands that you like that don't cost top dollar?Other store brands?

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2017, 10:23:59 pm
content: A nick in the blade will mess up any scissor type cutter. With some care you can file out any damage with a hand file, just make sure you keep the mating surfaces of the blades flat and only file that side if you have to file down a nick.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2017, 08:47:00 pm
content: Many years ago I bought these:http://uk.farnell.com/elliott-lucas/pa1851-8/wire-stripper-self-adjustable/dp/107228They are rather like number 2 in the original post, but don't have the adjuster or depth stop. Since number 2 was available cheap I got a pair just to see how things have moved on.The originals are really very simple: shove the wire in, squeeze, done. There is no adjustment to make and they work perfectly every time. Even now - I am right at this moment stripping some twin+earth, and these easily strip the outer without affecting the internal wire sleeves.The new one, on the other hand, I've yet to sort out. The adjuster lets you set the depth of cut, but the difference between 'not doing anything at all' and 'perhaps a bit too tight' is basically a touch. Very sensitive indeed. The originals don't have any adjustment and don't need any, so I'm not sure what's going on there.A closer look indicates that on the originals the gripper part, on the left, grips before the cutter part closes. On the new ones it is the other way around. Probably only makes a difference to where the cut is, though. The originals have a very distinct step as the strip happens which is lacking on the new ones.So, whilst superficially similar, they seem to be rather different in operation. And result.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2017, 09:08:04 pm
content: Quote from: analogix on June 06, 2017, 04:10:09 pmI own this pair of wire strippers, which are like the ones in your picture:http://www.frys.com/product/3256901I find them to be the best wire strippers I have ever used and they are now the ones I always go to first. They do a perfect job on everything from thick mains cable to 26 gauge solid or stranded hookup wire (even though they don't claim to handle below 22 gauge). They are quick, easy, and will strip every wire to the same length.I far prefer them to the ones with adjustable holes and cutting blades. With those, not only do you have to carefully pick the right hole size for the wire, I always seem to end up with broken strands on stranded wire.The only better option for wire stripping I have come across are the ones with heated blades that melt through the insulation, however they are much more expensive.

author: CopperCone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2017, 01:59:26 pm
content: realistically most things that are vibration resistant required will have potting which will kind of eliminate the requirement for nicked wire strands, especialy when combined with things like those 'clamping' gromets used to thread wires through a chassis (and prevent ingress of foreign material), and potting material.My personal recommendation for good wire strippers:http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-Wire-Stripper-Cutter-11046/100630720?AID=11210757&PID=4150373&cm_mmc=CJ-_-4150373-_-11210757&cj=truehttp://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-6-1-4-in-Wire-Stripper-Cutter-11045/100630729?AID=11210757&PID=4150373&cm_mmc=CJ-_-4150373-_-11210757&cj=true20$ has you covered on good quality handtools, made by Klein, from 26 to 10 AWG. This is what I use. I splurge in other areas. Also, very comfortable.Price is low because its mass produced for electricians. Also, lifetime warrenty, and you can pick it up at home depot in the electrical section.**************other information on strippers*******Precise is useful when your wire diameter is small in proportion to your insulation diameter (i.e. high voltage), otherwise the mechanical ability of the wire does not suffer too much from a 'nick'.The more precisely machined the strippers are, the less chance of a nick you will have.. however it all depends on the insulation type of the wire. Teflon wire (which is real nice for chassis work), does not agree well with conventional wire strippers, which seem optimized for PVC insulation.This can make a plan of using a 200 dollar wire stripper go down the crapper, if its optimized for different insulation then what you are using.Serious production work does happen with 10$ klein tool wire strippers with no problems.these are goodhttps://www.zoro.com/knipex-self-adj-wire-stripper-5-to-13-awg-12-50-200/i/G4481508/cg?gclid=CNO-zdDw-dQCFcKPswodkF8PwAhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/high-quality-wire-strippers-what-to-buy/25/various jaw sets/models exist for different ranges.But what is more important, way more important then a wire stripper, is a cable stripper. Poor wire strip, unless you completely fuck it up, won't really effect you. However, a bad cable strip, means short circuits easy when you bend it. These are really importanthttps://www.zoro.com/greenlee-cable-stripper-8-awg-to-1250-kcmil-7-in-1903/i/G0924262/cg?gclid=CMi82_nx-dQCFdWIswodE9YI9gRealistically you would want cable ties and stuff on the wire close to the connection or solder point, which further reduces the risk of damage from a nicked wire.Buy kits of this stuff for a project/lab and the price goes up more then a quality pair of wire strippers (if you still want them, look for German brands off digikey.. they have really nice automated ones with different jaws. but prepare to pay a premium on it, like 250$ minimum. I recommend Wiha , weidmuller or Knippex..********************************* other stuff on wiring thats way more important then strippers (other then cable strippers)********I would personally spend that money on wire accessories like zip ties (you can get some nice stuff), nice terminations/crimpers (ferrules, etc), cable/wire holders (sticky type, screw type), cable glands/sealing grommets, silastic/silicone glue compound, potting material, correct usehttp://www.panduit.com/en/products-and-services/products/online-products-catalog of cabling (rather then individual wires), etcSpend some time in the panduit catalog here:http://www.panduit.com/en/products-and-services/products/online-products-catalogbefore you go out and spend a fortune on wire strippers. Obviously nice ones made out of carbide would be the best, so long the pivot joint kicks ass.. but if you are looking to make a robust mechanical system all those accessories added to your product/project will do way more for you for the price.specificshttp://www.panduit.com/en/products-and-services/products/cable-and-wire-bundling/cable-tie-mounts-and-accessoriesvery important for good strain relief, and EMI performance (i.e. repeatability)http://www.panduit.com/en/products-and-services/products/wire-routing-protection-and-insulation/heat-shrinkheat shrink is very important for good strain reliefhttp://www.panduit.com/en/products-and-services/products/wire-routing-protection-and-insulation/abrasion-protectionif you do good work with gromets and fasteners, the need for this stuff becomes less important (for internal work), however, something can always come loose, this gives your cable additional protection and life if something goes free and rubs on something etc.*also, this keeps wires together mechanically. Advanced designs (often seen in old equipment) specify for hand looming, where a 'ribbon thread' like material is wrapped around the wire and tied off periodically. This allows for custom pressure to be applied to the cable, to hold it together. You can put point pressure between cables with 'hand loomed' , while maintaining flexibility, and leaving the ability to route, more so then is possible with just a cable protective jacket, which may kinda sorta keep cables together.. but if it applies excessive pressure the routing ability/flex ability of the cable will be effected" Also, you can vary pressure along a wire lenght, so you can decrease it at expected bends for instance.http://www.panduit.com/en/products-and-services/products/wire-terminationquality crimps are important, along with quality crimp tools. this is a high point of failure right here, more so then anything elsegood crimps are great. For home use you might prefer to just solder stuff and use heat shrink etc.. having good crimping ability is expensivehttp://www.panduit.com/en/products-and-services/products/cable-and-wire-bundlingnot the cheap ass zipties you get. they have some really nice stuff herehttp://www.panduit.com/en/products-and-services/products/wire-routing-protection-and-insulation/wiring-ductpeople forget this stuff exists. It adds another layer of protection. You can use short pieces of it internally.http://www.panduit.com/en/products-and-services/products/wire-routing-protection-and-insulation/abrasion-protection/grommet-edgingvery important too, specifically called it out. Line those sharp corners.then these guyshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_glandDon't know of a good manufacturer. With glands there is a entire spectrum of shit (well with cable and wire too. I guess) that varries between 50 cents plastic common stuff to expensive (possibly in the hundred dollar range) stainless steel, water resistant, chemical rated, etc cable glands that are custom machined on many axis CNC machines.There are other things related to wiring too that exist. It is not my specialty. Also, it is a very fun 'arts and craft' area of manufacturing (like deadbugging electrical or making custom enclosures (shop work)).cable harness, chassis wiring, product wiring, etc is kind of its own engineering discipline. Larger companies that make alot of product may have their own EE that has broad knowledge of mechanical, thermal, electrical and chemical behavior of these things that does wiring design. He ends up needing to talk to everyone. It gets complicated because of things like thermal derating for wire bundles, etc.

author: shteii01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2017, 06:54:45 pm
content: Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud!That is seriously overpriced. Such a simple tool and you are going to pay 70 USD for it. Have you lost your mind?Here is Ideal for 35-45 USD:https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0000WU49A/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=allIf!!! If you going to spend 60 USD for cable stripper, get something that gives you superior control. This thing lets you do the cut around the cable and do the cut lengthwise so you can remove the sheath much more easily:https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0000WU4AE/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1499539931&sr=8-1&keywords=ideal+45-164&condition=newQuote from: CopperCone on July 08, 2017, 01:59:26 pm

author: tigr
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 09, 2017, 09:11:01 am
content: My cable stripper.

author: shteii01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 09, 2017, 09:19:58 am
content: I would have been afraid to use it for stripping 2 meters of cable.Quote from: tigr on July 09, 2017, 09:11:01 am

author: tigr
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 09, 2017, 09:58:46 am
content: Quote from: shteii01 on July 09, 2017, 09:19:58 amOK.

author: shteii01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 09, 2017, 09:51:28 pm
content: Yes, I have that one only Ideal brand I linked earlier. The older/wiser people at work have them and let me use it first couple of weeks so I bought my own once I got a couple of paychecks.I also have Ideal 45-163 for sensor cables. And I am saving for Ideal 45-164 for larger cables.Quote from: tigr on July 09, 2017, 09:58:46 am

author: Prime
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 09:06:41 am
content: Quote from: Gyro on June 06, 2017, 07:39:14 pmYou get what you pay for with these. The good ones are excellent, the cheap ones feel like they'll fall apart any moment and the jaws don't even align.We have a Hellerman (I think) one at home that has been around for almost 30 years.

author: neo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 06:05:34 am
content: The BEST wire stripper i have ever owned!https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01018CYV8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1Strips 32 gauge wire wrap wire all the way down to huge rubber cable. So long as it can fit in its jaws and isn't one very special wire with slick insulation it will strip.

author: IanMacdonald
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 07:26:30 am
content: Never been a fan of wire strippers, always preferred sidecutters, but recently saw an Amtech branded tool in a local shop for £7 and bought it on impulse.Have to say I'm amazed how precise and controllable this is. Better than some at five times the price. The only issue I found is that the return spring pressure is a little high for electronics-gauge wires but there are actually two so I just took one off. How long it will last I don't know but it seems quite sturdy.BTW, I'd never rely on the crimping jaws of these kinds of tool. They're basically a 'vaue added' gimmick. The only trusty crimp tools are the closed box type.

author: Rbastler
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 07:37:01 am
content: I have LUX Brandes wire strippers. Its OBIs "house brand". It costs around 8€ and it is quite well made for the price. One did last me around 1.5 years before it broke after daily use. So I just bought another one. I dont have a picture atm. Will add that later.Despite they last quite long and are cheap, I'm thinking of buying a more expensive one. Ca double the price, which should last me a lot more.Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 09:46:17 am
content: Looking at the same style Knipex wire strippers they are all >€170Regarding the video on the previous page, the CK wirestrippers which he was not fond of (the yellow one with the adjustable input) I suspect they are made solely for wirewrapping wire, eq PTFE ire.I use the red fixed size for my wirewrapping proto wire and am very happy with it, the wire is PTFE coated and 0,25mm and have not found any other stripper that can handle it properly.It is fragile though I broke one pushing too hard.http://nl.farnell.com/ck-tools/t3756-25/wire-stripper-0-25mm/dp/146419

author: WhichEnt2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 03:43:25 pm
content: Stripper such as on your first pic causes huge addiction on electrical installation because it can strip jacket of flat wire like this:but that type also known for fragile springs. On mine they are lasts for about a year.

author: Buriedcode
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 04:13:18 pm
content: Not sure if these count:http://cpc.farnell.com/duratool/d00127/automatic-wire-stripper-parrot/dp/TL10336Had a couple of them for years, they even work for kynar wire, although I tend to use the cheaper manual ones for that. They're cheap but are easy to use for wiring looms where one would be doing >1000 wires in one sitting.

author: Tepe
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 05:48:43 pm
content: Quote from: analogix on June 06, 2017, 04:10:09 pmBiltema's cheap one (12-188) doesn't seem to be half bad and at NOK 45 the risk isn't big.http://www.biltema.no/no/Verktoy/Handverktoy/Tenger-og-Sakser/Avisoleringstang-2000016798/The one I have lying around is blue and white (unlike the image on Biltema's site), but it has the same part number.Addendum: The one in the image looks like it is identical to the one Buriedcode linked to at Farnell's

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 09:59:16 pm
content: FWIW I find the non-nested automatics great for bench work as well, as it allows for switching between different wire sizes frequently with less error due to improper wire placement*. Some also offer different blade cassettes for different sizes and/or insulation type which not only makes them more versatile, but less expensive in the long run IME.For example, my Embla + PTFE cassette runs $82.52 + shipping from Waytekwire (555+555BV), while a regular Ideal Stripmaster + dedicated version for PTFE would run ~$250 last I checked the pricing on the PTFE versions (~$200 for the PTFE models; identifiable by the red grips instead of blue). Replacement straight/flat blade cartridge (black;555B) is $17.65. FWIW, Waytek is the least expensive source I'm aware of (no affiliation other than as a customer).This ^^^ is based on US availability & pricing, so YMMV for other parts of the globe. It's rebranded by multiple companies, which may aid in acquiring one if interested.BTW, the Embla comes in 2 basic shapes; plier type & parrot type. It uses the same cartridges (black, blue, or red), just different ergonomics. You can even get them with blue cartridges for PTFE as standard (red too, but only on the plier shape).Wirecare.comhas both types & the different cassettes. The cassettes, wire cutter blades, and serrated jaws are all replaceable; prices are reasonable too.*One's eyesight plays a big part of this, so YMMV.

author: agehall
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2017, 08:32:02 am
content: Quote from: Tepe on August 01, 2017, 05:48:43 pmI think I own five of those suckers (keep losing them around the house!) and they are awesome! Sure, they are not super precise and sometimes I have to strip wires manually, but for the most part, they do a fine job.I would recommend everyone to get at least one of these from your local supplier. I would not pay much more than about 50SEK/€5 for it (some places charge waaaaay more for them without much gain for it).

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2017, 09:09:41 pm
content: Are these functionally similar tothe two automatic ones first pictured in this thread?When you pay more than around SEK 50 for those you guys mentioned from Biltema etc. (I seethey also sell them at Kjell & Co), are they sold under more well known name brands with a higher quality, or are they the same ones?If they're easy to use, do the job properly and won't break after a few uses I'm all in!

author: agehall
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2017, 07:47:55 pm
content: I can only speak for the Biltema one and that one works just fine. Sure, it feels a bit cheap in your hand, but I've never worn one of them out so far. Your biggest danger is, as I wrote above, misplacing it.

author: ciccio
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 10, 2017, 03:52:27 pm
content: Quote from: analogix on August 06, 2017, 09:09:41 pmThere is a big difference: the Bitema one, very similar to model PTS4 made in Italy by ELCONTROL has the wire rotated 90 degrees from the handle. This results in a lot less fatigue on your wrist (and you do not need to lift your elbow)The same with the IDEAL type stripper, that require less force when stripping small wires, but you need to use the blade indent of the correct diameter : it is not automatic.This is my personal experience, afters about 50 years of stripping wires professionally.

author: Wirehead
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2017, 05:40:30 am
content: I use aJokari "Super 4 Plus".. this thing has saved me loads of time and does a real good job...

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2017, 02:27:15 pm
content: And very cheap!

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2017, 07:59:17 pm
content: Quote from: ciccio on August 10, 2017, 03:52:27 pmAre you saying the (cheap) Biltema one is your choice as the best one, or did I misunderstand?

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2017, 08:05:22 pm
content: Quote from: neslekkim on August 11, 2017, 02:27:15 pmAre you referring to the Jokari super 4 plus?Where did you buy it and how much did you pay for it?

author: frozenfrogz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2017, 09:03:37 pm
content: Regarding wire strippers, don’t buy multi-purpose tools. The built in crimp tools will most likely not work properly and do not fit the connector you need anyway. Have yet to see a multi-purpose stripper that actually does a decent job.I love my Weicon No.5 - seems very similar to the Jokari Super 4. However, I do not know where you would best get one in Norway. From the Weicon website, there seems to be a distributer in Norway:itec.as

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2017, 09:26:27 pm
content: Quote from: analogix on August 11, 2017, 08:05:22 pmGerman seller on ebay:http://www.ebay.com/itm/331817547445

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2017, 09:29:38 pm
content: Frozenfrogz: it's funny you should mention that wire stripper you just pictured (Weicon no. 5), becauseit looks very similar to the one sold by Clas Ohlson! (linked to the German Clas Ohlson, but they also have shops here).If you click on the small photo at the link above it seems to say "Weicon Super no. 5", but it's hard to tell. Perhaps I'll just check it out myself in the shop.So this one strips different diameter wires easily, without needing to know the diameter first (and then adjust the tool), but does this automatically? I like simple solutions, but also something that won't break apart after a few uses. I like that it's made in GermanyWhen you said to not buy multi-purpose tools -were you thinking about the Jokari mentioned earlier?Neslekkim: yes, that price isn't bad at all! And unlike most non-China sellers, this one doesn't overcharge on shipping either. So far it appears the Weicon or Jokari might be what to go for if I want something well built that works and doesn't cost too much.

author: frozenfrogz
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timestamp: August 11, 2017, 09:53:55 pm
content: Yes, that is the oneIt automatically strips 0.2mm^2 up to 6mm^2 and there is a small integrated cutter. You can setQuote from: analogix on August 11, 2017, 09:29:38 pmMade some quick and dirty action picsThe red indicating slider is not dead accurate, but it comes in handy once in a while.The tool can be locked by a separate slide on the back.Edit: Just in case it is ever needed, the blades are replaceable.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2017, 10:21:11 pm
content: Quote from: analogix on August 11, 2017, 09:29:38 pmDouble click the photo, and you'll get the full size version; Weicon Super no. 5 is unmistakable.Quote from: analogix on August 11, 2017, 09:29:38 pmYes.To me, this makes it more useful than jobs that require a lot of repetition as I switch wire sizes frequently on the bench.Regarding durability, either brand will last you a long time IME.

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2017, 06:28:16 am
content: Very nice!Does it also strip several wires at once (like a flat IDC cable), or at least a part of an IDC cable width?

author: frozenfrogz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2017, 08:44:08 am
content: If that is a requirement: No it does not. It is single wire only and if you are working with flatband and multicore wires a lot, then you should be looking at the Jokari FKZ, Knipex 12 64 180 or Knipex 12 42 195 "Multistrip".Edit: The head of the No.5 is relatively broad and it can be challenging to get into tight spots, so that might be a thing. You have to stay clear of other cables/obstructions, so that the tool can push down on the isolation of the wire to be stripped right.Quote from: analogix on August 12, 2017, 06:28:16 am

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2017, 02:53:54 pm
content: Quote from: analogix on August 12, 2017, 06:28:16 amUnfortunately, it does not (V shaped blades rather than straight/flat).There are a couple of others not mentioned above that will, such as the Pressmaster Embla or the Weidmueller Stripax.In the case of the Pressmaster, they offer multiple blade cartridges. A"V" blade set for PTFE insulation* & half round for larger wire sizes (blue & red respectively for easy identification). I found adding the V blade cartridge not only makes it more flexible, but more economical as well (i.e. Knipex or Ideal Stripmaster designed for PTFE costs more, and they can't do flat cable).FWIW the Embla gets rebranded a lot (Wiha, Xcelite, and Beta for example). The Stripax is rebranded by Paladin.Embla (original)Embla RA (parrot style)Additional Blade CartridgesWeidmuellerKnipex 12 12 06;Amazon(uses dual sets of cutting blades as do Ideal's Teflon models, hence the increased cost)* They'll cut other difficult insulations such as silicone rubber, EPDM rubber, Kapton, and multi-layer.

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2017, 10:09:44 pm
content: That's too bad about the Weicon no. 5 not being able to strip multiple IDC cable wires. I don't need to do it often , but for those seldom situations that I do -is there another solution?I just looked at the prices for some of the ones suggested that can handle multiple wires at once, and they're priced for "professional", deep pockets if you know what I meanThis is just for hobby use, but I'm tired of getting wires unsuccessfully stripped, cutting them shorter and shorter...Perhaps I'll just get the Weicon no. 5, and for stripping IDC wires, just use a flat bladed hobby knife and hope for the best

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2017, 10:29:00 pm
content: Quote from: analogix on August 12, 2017, 10:09:44 pmYou've figured out the less expensive method on your own.When using a knife (it does need to be very sharp at the tip), the trick is to score the outer sheath. Then bend/flex it while pulling and it will tear off without damaging the inner insulation on the individual wires or nicking the copper strand/s on single layer insulated wires (i.e. 2 or 3 wire zip/lamp cord).

author: frozenfrogz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2017, 11:34:06 pm
content: The whole point about IDC cables is that you do not need to strip them. What would be the use case in which you need to strip the isolation? If you want to put crimps on the end (Dupont connectors,...) you need to separate the strands anyway, the same should be true for almost any solder connection, unless you use them to solder as a full strip on vero board / PCB with the correct pitch.I’m just asking out of curiosity

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2017, 12:23:24 am
content: Flat cable, but non-IDC. Some examples would be lamp cord, flat 2 wire with double insulation (flat jacket that contains 2 individually insulated conductors), flat 3 wire power cables (single insulation with molded ends), and flat speaker cable (sometimes called zip cord here in the US). Even Romex wire used for residential structural wiring in North America.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2017, 12:49:01 am
content: Except with those kinds of cable, why wouldn't you split them and strip the cores individually?I just verified that my strippers work on figure 8 twin core speaker cable, but after stripping I still have to separate the cores for use.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2017, 04:20:00 am
content: Quote from: IanB on August 13, 2017, 12:49:01 amHaving a stripper that can handle flat cable isn't a necessity from a technical standpoint as a razor knife + a standard stripper that can handle the wire size & insulation type can certainly get the job done. It's just slower, less convenient, and has a greater risk of causing damage if the razor knife goes too deep.FWIW I got the Embla because not having to find the right nest is desirable to me and it's more cost effective due to the interchangeable blade cartridges. The ability to strip flat cable with it is just a free bonus feature.

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2017, 07:12:58 am
content: Thanks guys for pointing out that IDC cables can be stripped in other ways than using a dedicated multi-cable stripper tool.Why would I need to strip an IDC cable? Just recently I needed to connect multiple wires from a circuit board connector to various places on a PCB (Dupont connectors at one end and as Frozenfrogz guessed correctly) and soldering the other ends to ICs etc. on the PCB. An IDC cable was chosen for this. But you're right -I can split the individual wires, then strip them individually. If the cable stripper is reliable and does its job, and I take care to strip the wires at equal lengths I don't think there should be any issues.What's the best way to separate the individual wires from an IDC cable? I've used a flat-bladed hobby knife before, which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't (it's too easy to miss by a fraction of a mm, causing the next wire to have its insulation cut off along excessively).I'll see if I get the time to pop by the store which has the Weicon no. 5 this week.

author: neo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2017, 07:40:46 am
content: When i worked with ribbon cable, which was to a limited degree, i found using a straight razor to just barely split the end and lightly pulling it apart with pliers worked reliably. So long as you avoid mishaps and crushing the insulation.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2017, 07:46:35 am
content: Quote from: analogix on August 13, 2017, 07:12:58 amI use flush cutters (nip it a little, then peel it with my fingers or a smooth jaw pair of pliers).Like a hobby knife though, there are occasions I screw it up and cut the copper strands. But I get fewer mistakes with this method than a hobby knife.

author: frozenfrogz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2017, 10:58:16 am
content: I also like simply using a small flush cutter for the initial notch, then pull it apart as much as I need. After a couple of cuts you get the hang of it and never think about it again.On the other hand, there are dedicated tools for this (not fitting the »cheap« demand of course)If I had to do a lot of separating, this would intrigue the tool collector in me xDEdit: If you had to do it on a regular basis, maybe build a small rig with a couple of razor blades spaced at the right pitch and some kind of indexing? You would only need to cut a small notch from the front (see attached nasty sketch).

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2017, 05:38:34 pm
content: I've just bought the Weicon no. 5 from Clas Ohlson (which looked just like the pictureFrozenfrogsposted. The one at the store's page must have been an older model or something) and it works great!I've just tested out with a couple of wires and I can see how much easier stripping wires will be from now on! I haven't had the time to try it out extensively, but my impression so far is that it's well built (high quality and strong plastic from what I can tell) and very easy to use. It basically does what it's supposed to do and I'm very happy with my purchase and happy it was suggested to me here!

author: frozenfrogz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2017, 06:04:46 pm
content: That’s good to hear, thanks for concluding this threadI use it nearly every day and to me it is every cent well spent. It is like buying a band saw to replace a manual hack saw you have been using for years: You don’t know what you have been missing until you own one xD(I just bought a Makita 2107FK so please excuse the analogy)

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2017, 07:18:37 pm
content: Yes, finally I probably have no need to bother the readers with yet another questionAt least others who are also looking for a wire stripper will have a lot of choices and useful comments to read through.Exactly what you said -you don't know what you've been missing until you find the tool that you should have all along!The natural question to myself then is of course, whichnexttool/technique have I not known about which I should have bought/learnt many years ago, but at least I should get now to make life easierCongrats on that Makita portable saw. Nice!

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2017, 09:48:56 pm
content: Quote from: frozenfrogz on August 15, 2017, 06:04:46 pmThat's a cool saw, didn't know these existed, this dude have created a table for it:

author: shteii01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2017, 04:26:06 pm
content: Yeah, portable band saw is nice. There is corded and cordless models.But the really awesome one is Milwaukee sub compact band saw that you can use with one hand:https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2429-21xc

author: frozenfrogz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2017, 04:55:32 pm
content: I looked at the M12, but I wanted to have a mains powered saw (that is pretty hard to find here in Germany - portable band saws are not in the "basic tools everyone buys" category here somehow). Also it had to be capable of cutting diameters of up to 100mm. I need it to cut blanks for turning on my precious mini lathe

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2017, 06:45:30 pm
content: I've now had theWeicon no. 5 stripperfor a while since I last posted here (I'm the OP) and have to say I'm very happy with it. The wire stripper does exactly what it's supposed to do without any over-complicated method needed. It appears as a well built, quality product. Very nice and didn't cost too much either (IMHO of course).

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2017, 07:43:39 pm
content: Has anyone compared the Weicon No 5 to the Jokari Super 4 and T20100? How about the Pro'sKit CP-367A?Also, does anyone know a US source for the Weicon?

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2017, 08:28:27 pm
content: Quote from: edavid on September 21, 2017, 07:43:39 pmNot finding one, so you may have to use a UK or EU source.The Jokari Super 4 or T20100 are available in the US though (All-Spec or Amazon). Another way to get one would be as aKnipex 12 62 180, which is just a rebranded T20100. And FWIW, Jokari makes a solid product.If you're going to be stripping a lot of wire at a time, you'll want a pair with cushion grip handles.

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2017, 10:43:26 pm
content: Here's a summary of Weicon-like strippers available in/from the US. I was too lazy to paste in pictures.Capri2011120011 (made in Taiwan, 10 year warranty)Amazon $13.46https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01018CX46eBay $15http://www.ebay.com/itm/Capri-Tools-20011-Automatic-Wire-Stripper-and-Cutter-/262399535051Jokari Super 4 Plus T20050 (made in Germany)Amazon $23.49 (low stock)https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011OZFLGWeBay ~ $24http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOKARI-automatic-wire-stripper-SUPER-No-4-Plus-for-Electro-Wired-Cable-6mm-/331817547445Jokari Secura T20100 (made in Germany)Amazon $39https://www.amazon.com/Jokari-T20100-Secura-Automatic-Stripper/dp/B003U3RUP2Knipex 1262180 (made in Germany, same as T20100?)Amazon $40https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003B8WB5UPro'sKit CP-367A (made in Taiwan)AliExpress $22https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pro-sKit-CP-367A-Self-Adjusting-Insulation-Gun-type-automatic-wire-stripping-AWG-24-10-0/32813283260.htmlAmazon $25https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0041TG0X2Weicon 51000005 Professional Wire Stripper No. 5 (made in Germany)eBay ~ $26http://www.ebay.com/itm/Automatic-Wire-STRIPPER-0-2-6mm-PRO-Pliers-STRIPPER-to-stripping-/152663200292I ended up ordering the Capri, since I liked the price and the warranty. Maybe I'll be sorry.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2017, 10:52:39 pm
content: Based on appearance and molded markings, the Capri and Pro's Kit seem to be the same unit. So this could be a nice find for other members in the market for a non-nested type automatic stripper.Didn't find a COO for it, so that's good to know as well.

author: shteii01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2017, 03:32:46 am
content: Quote from: edavid on September 22, 2017, 10:43:26 pmcould not find it until i fixed the number

author: kPATm
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2017, 04:32:02 pm
content: Quote from: macboy on June 07, 2017, 05:27:04 pmI use these and they are pretty good

author: shteii01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2017, 02:12:57 am
content: edavid, thank you for assembling the list and info. Very helpful.I was looking at Jokari and Weicon. Jokari does not show replacement blades, while Weicon does.

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2017, 12:12:51 am
content: The Capri arrived, and so far I'm quite happy with it. On teflon wire it sometimes takes 2 attempts, but that's fine. Otherwise it strips on the first try.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2017, 01:29:34 am
content: Quote from: edavid on September 27, 2017, 12:12:51 amYou can also experiment with adding pressure to the closed jaw with your hand before pulling the handle to actually strip PTFE (makes a deeper bite into the insulation).I have to do this with old, hardened PVC wiring at times as I can't adjust it sufficiently (scrapes the insulation instead of stripping it). The V shaped jaws are a bit better with this IME, as it makes more bites into the insulation.

author: RJFreeman
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2017, 01:50:19 am
content: Quote from: analogix on June 06, 2017, 04:10:09 pmI made the mistake of buying a pair of them, they are utter rubbish, as they just rip rip the end of the wire off, rather than strip it.I have tried adjusting the tension, but they go from not doing anything, to tearing the end off the wire, there is nothing in between.

author: mySystemEngineer
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 10:27:30 am
content: you should select a model that can strip up to 28AWG or even 30AWG, they are common widths for fine projects.

author: JonM
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 17, 2017, 04:05:27 am
content: Quote from: RJFreeman on September 27, 2017, 01:50:19 amI have a version of that stripper and it works very well down to about 22G (but not for Teflon insulated wire). For smaller wire I usually select a small Paladin stripper.