Ranking useless posts in a thread? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 10:13:19 pm
content: The recent idea ofthanksis a nice gesture.How about a similar but unrelated 'no thanks' counter - attached to the poster (notthe thread).This would allow mods and readers to assess the likely validity of the poster's content.Some people seem to contribute to a thread when they have no idea or experience- just making it harder for the OP to extract meaningful answers.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 10:19:10 pm
content: Dislike button was not added for a reason. Forum shall not become a yet another dislike trolling dump or a place where people are measuring theirdickslike/dislike ratio.

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 10:39:20 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on April 16, 2016, 10:19:10 pmDoesn't it add to the democracy? Helping weaker punters identify trolls or time-wasters?If each reader can only downvote once, there is no risk of becoming a troll dump, unless multiple readers think the post really is a troll/pos .... then it's justified.I only raise this, as i often see newbies ask legitimate questions, but get completely invalid responses from posters that have no idea what they're writing about!

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 10:41:37 pm
content: Down voting posts sucks because it is truth by majority instead of truth by facts. Every now and then I end up on the stack exchange forum and in many cases there is very useful information in posts which are 'down voted'.The forum already has the function to ignore certain people in case the truth hurts too much.

author: Ian.M
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 10:44:05 pm
content: While a dislike button, and collapsing posts with too many dislikes can be useful to keep topics relevant, the risk of abuse is high, unless you limit it to users with a strong commitment to this forum*. In effect, you would be adding a sizeable group of 'moderators-lite', which may not be a path this community is ready for.* If its easy to get, trolls will register multiple sockpuppets to let them game the system.

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 10:49:50 pm
content: TRUTH = Human nature + SimpsonsGot ya'

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 10:53:35 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on April 16, 2016, 10:49:07 pmIt's not just 'opinionated' nitwits, but otherwise genuine posters that have been playing with an Arduino for two weeks, and try to answer otherwise legitimate (and above their ability) questions.They're welcome to ask and learn, but no need to announce your inexperience- and confuse the newbies.

author: brabus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:02:33 pm
content: Already had a "dislike button" experience in another forum. That was literally the beginning of the end.Just leave as it is and it's fine for me.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:02:46 pm
content: Quote from: SL4P on April 16, 2016, 10:39:20 pmThat doesn't work like that. There were a few treads where my opinion was completely opposite to what the wast majority was saying and after insisting a lot for the the topic starter doing a certain thing, in the end turned out I was right. If there was such a button, guess I might get downvoted.Some recent example:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/no-luck-on-my-first-attempt-at-acquiring-a-cesium-frequency-standard/I was the only one among the crowd not seeing the crack in the PCB (and there was not).

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:03:45 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on April 16, 2016, 10:59:03 pmGood point.

author: Earendil
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:11:09 pm
content: Quote from: SL4P on April 16, 2016, 10:53:35 pmHave you ever heard about the ant colony optimization algorithms?This forums works so well because so many people contributes and you can find answers to a wide array of topics.I believe your elitist approach wouldn't work in a free (non-commercial) forum because it would discourage people to contribute. That in turn would reduce the number of interesting topics. By reducing the number of topics the more experienced people would also contribute less since they themselves wouldn't find many new/interesting things here.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:34:35 pm
content: I cant see it being incorporated on the basis that particular members may be unjustly punished even though they had good intentions, some may go to extensive effort to obtain and submit what they thought was relevant information to the topic at hand only to realise at a later point that they had misinterpreted the OPs request or perhaps the OP made a request for assistance that was so far out west that it took a few replies to ascertain the correct direction.Once a post is quoted a good intentioned member could be made to look like a complete fool simply because the thread went off on another course which does happen occasionally, OPs not doing sufficient research or wording their submission correctly beforehand could be the underlying factor in this scenario and others could suffer because of it and some may take the negative feedback personally, I don't like it at all.

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:40:28 pm
content: I feel the need to post this worthless reply in this thread.. Carry on...

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:44:56 pm
content: Quote from: Smokey on April 16, 2016, 11:40:28 pmMaybe the last option of the poll... a ranking of the individual post... 0--5I agree that with 'No thanks' - otherwise well-meaning posters could be 'punished' out of context - so that's worth recognising.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:53:06 pm
content: If there were guidelines on when a 'No thanks' could be cast that could bereliablyfollowed (hopefully not enforced) then theremaybe a case for considering such a feature - however, that is pure fiction.There is no safe way to introduce any process of negativity without the risk of it being corrupted. There will always be those who will look at it - and use it - as a weapon and sometimes indiscriminately.IMHO, the 'Thanks' button is as far as any rating mechanism should go.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 12:25:14 am
content: We've got thethat can be useful to offer when a member that should know better posts some unhelpful BS and the also usefulto further describe the helpfulness of a post but above all now we can offer "thanks" it'sfairlyeasy to identify the really useful posts in a thread and thereby assume that the others weren't very helpful.My 2c

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 12:34:46 am
content: Quote from: tautech on April 17, 2016, 12:25:14 amI agree, if somebody posts information that is incorrect or irrelevant in the eyes of others then an explanation as to why that information was wrong better informs others that may have been on the same chain of thought.The following users felt this post was utter drivel:Muttley Snickers

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 02:43:15 am
content: Quote from: wraper on April 16, 2016, 10:19:10 pmYep, I don't like the concept of a Dislike button or rating system. It'sonlyultimate result can be to degenerate the quality of the forum.You can either thank a good post, or ignore a bad one and move on.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 02:48:35 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on April 16, 2016, 10:44:50 pmThe Thanks option really has no ability to be misused. But a Dislike or No Thanks option is begging to be misused, and as is human nature, I'd bet my life it would be.

author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 03:13:04 am
content: Quote from: wraper on April 16, 2016, 11:02:46 pmThat thread was absolutely hilarious. Some people need their eyes checked!And one of the issue with likes + dislikes is that no justification needs to be provided for voting, so anyone can just click dislike based on any negative impression of the topic, facts based or otherwise. The same goes for liking posts, but it's a behavioral economics / psychology question as to whether people are more attracted to likes or more averse to dislikes.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 03:24:58 am
content: Quote from: SL4P on April 16, 2016, 10:13:19 pmThe majority might not have clear understanding, therefore a dislike will be detrimental to the forum.Leave it as is.

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 03:35:51 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 17, 2016, 02:48:35 amSo I guess there is no chance of ever being able to edit other people's post to correct grammar, correct mispelling or reword the question so it's better undrstood or move the thread or ... ... or any other anal retentive features like that?Good!

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 04:05:48 am
content: Quote from: SL4P on April 16, 2016, 10:13:19 pmDo you have a hard time identifying meaningful answers or do you worry about other people?

author: Ian.M
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 04:11:22 am
content: Ob.XKCD:

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 04:44:26 am
content: ROFL

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 05:02:44 am
content: Quote from: zapta on April 17, 2016, 04:05:48 amSome people can extract meaning from a farting rock. At the other end of the spectrum, other people don't get it even when the answers comes up, introduces itself and slaps them on the face, hard, twice.The fun thing about forums, contrary to misguided belief, don't exist for "those who don't know to get answers fast".They are a hangout of sorts.Like sitting around a campfire. Drinking beer. At the beach. On a summer night. When it didn't used to be illegal.Now imagine someone coming up and asking a question and saying. Now before you guys start answering ......look! I don't want to have to listen to all of you spewing whatever comes to mind unless you know and are correct. I just want the right answers in 25 words or less so I can be on my way. Unless I don't understand the answer because I know less than a farting rock in which case you will have to educate me first before you answer my question.No, no, no...we have this nice fire going and drinking beer on the beach on a nice summer night and here you are coming over wanting a crash course on <insert subject or issue here>. You get what you get.Or start your own campfire and bring your own beer.

author: Karel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 06:48:49 am
content: Quote from: SL4P on April 16, 2016, 10:39:20 pmTruth by democracy? No thanks, truth should be discovered by arguments!

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 12:50:24 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 17, 2016, 02:48:35 am*cough*Batteriser*cough*