Can I pay someone $500 to measure frequencies - Page 1
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author: bdidds0831
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 01:55:55 am
content: Hi there,I'm willing to pay $500 to somebody who has the equipment and skill set to measure frequencies. I have wireless chip inside me that broadcasts signal to my friend who can read the frequency on computer.I'm willing to pay so we can find and measure the signal that is getting broadcast from inside me. I'm hoping to isolate all other surrounding frequencies and have the person zero in on this particular frequency.Let me know. I'm willing to travel anywhere.Thanks,Brandon

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 02:11:43 am
content: Quote from: bdidds0831 on July 20, 2022, 01:55:55 amNo you don't. Don't waste your money.April fools day was months ago.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 03:05:40 am
content: Quote from: bdidds0831 on July 20, 2022, 01:55:55 amI recommend you pay a good psychologist.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 04:13:19 am
content: Quote from: bdidds0831 on July 20, 2022, 01:55:55 amYour friend had installed hidden cameras throughout your living space.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 04:45:24 am
content: Have you seen his other thread?https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/hanheld-frequency-analyzer-question/msg4306027/#msg4306027He digested something, but apparently does not know what and now he needs to find out what it was. A sane person would go to hospital and have a doctor look at it. An insane person should do the same, but needs a different kind of doctorOr he needs a kcoo kcoo counter

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 06:32:13 am
content: Quote from: bdidds0831 on July 20, 2022, 01:55:55 amFirst of all, you use the term 'frequency' in a way that indicates you don't have a particularly good grasp of electromagnetic radiation. You happen to use it in the same way that people who come to this forum to look foremotional supportto their pet theories, which can only be responded sanely with ridicule. This forum is a rare one dedicated torational discussionbetween engineers and scientists and likeminded hobbyists, so you can hopefully understand why the reaction to someone wanting everyone to please them and drop all logic and rationality, is reacted to so strongly.I am taking a risk, and assuming that this is not the case with you, and is just an unfortunate communications issue.First of all, basically everything radiates electromagnetic waves all the time; just see theelectromagnetic spectrum. Frequency determines the type of the radiation, as well as what kind of reactions the radiation can have with matter. Intensity is the amount of radiation, and to be useful for communications, it has to be high/strong enough to not be absorbed by intervening matter.You can exclude ionizing radiation by going through an airport security check. If you do trip it, you'll go through a wringer, because ionizing radiation will damage your tissues and is basically deadly; you'll probably be treated as a potential terrorist, and afterwards have to go through chelation in a hospital (a process of trying to remove the radiation source from your body, especially from your blood flow). Every time you have an x-ray taken, you do get a dose of it; and similarly when you go for a long flight (where the plane flies at altitudes above 30,000 feet or so). So ionizing radiation of various kinds (frequencies) exists in nature, but is not intense enough to worry about, our bodies have evolved to deal with it. Russians do like to use polonium (a rare metal that emits ionizing radiation) to kill people in a signature way, though.(Strictly speaking, not all ionizing radiation is electromagnetic radiation. There is also alpha radiation consisting of helium nuclei; beta radiation consisting of electrons; neutron radiation consisting of neutrons; and cosmic rays, which can be either high-energy photons (electromagnetic radiation) or some more exotic high-energy particles. Still, anything like this inside your body intense/strong enough to be measurable above the background noise is Bad News; and definitely would need recognizable exotic detectors to be detected, something off a physics laboratory or hospital radiation ward.)If it was visible light, you'd be able to see it. If it was infrared or ultraviolet light, it'd cook your tissues.Infrared is absorbed by tissue (and naturally converts to heat), so those are out. Frequencies below 10 MHz or so are absorbed by the atmosphere, and would require a very long antenna anyway.This leaves a frequency range of between 10 MHz and 300 GHz or so. To be usable for communications, there has to be acarriersignal at some specific frequency band. (It would be a single frequency only if it was AM modulated, but that's a terribly inefficient way.) To be inside something that can be digested, the antenna elements cannot be too long (although they don't need to be straight, somewhat reducing their size), so the most likely range is between 1 GHz and 10 GHz.We can take a look atfrequencies used in RF id tags. So, to simplify matters a bit, we can probably safely say that you might have ingested some kind of RF ID tag or active transmitter.(The dust spec-sized terahertz band ID tags demonstrated by MIT, TFID, has almost no range, because atmosphere itself absorbs that frequency quite well.)Note that not all transmitters need to be active (with their own battery): the same antenna can be used to receive power, and there are even backscatter techniques where nothing is transmitted by the device itself, as its antenna just modulates the received radiation.So, this simplifies the problem of how can one find a hidden, unknown type RFID tag. Most RFID detectors are dedicated for a specific type (a specific frequency range), so those are out. Security services do have sensitive wide-band EM detectors to look for surveillance devices, so something like that would be my bet.Although some describe me as the paranoid type, I know nothing about these, but a quick online search finds shops dedicated for this kind of "spy tech", with typical ranges being 1 MHz to 8 GHz (8000 MHz), for a fraction of the sum you offered –– but of course I have no idea whether they actually do what they advertise. I do believe private investigators use some of this stuff on behalf of their clients, so that is an approach that might help.To eliminate external sources, you want to do the measurement inside aFaraday cage. The easiest way to achieve that with minimal resources is, uh, kitchen alu foil. No, not a hat: just make a large cardboard or paper box (with e.g. wooden supports), and paper over it with the alu foil. The foil is conductive (although the very surface layer contains an oxide that is nonconductive), and "blocks" most frequencies of the electromagnetic spectrum. (There are limitations because the foil is so thin.) Even a chicken wire cage works at longer wavelengths. The rebar and meshes in concrete work in a similar way, and is the reason one often has bad reception in large buildings, unless they have repeaters inside.I also cannot help but point out that it is rather common today for us humans to have problems that generate symptoms like belief in allergies related to electromagnetic radiation or electricity, paranoia and other similar fears, because we simply haven't evolved to live in the situations we live in and with the utterly overwhelming communications methods we're constantly bombarded with.I cannot stress how important it is to react to those symptoms –– and indeed treat them as symptoms of an underlying problem, instead of as a separate, purely physical problem –– and get help. I personally recommend therapy, and consider it as something that is intended not to remove a problem, but to make you strong and resilient enough to deal with it. So, to me, a therapist is not someone spouting psychological mumbo-jumbo, but a personal trainer that just happens to be specialised on the mind instead of the body. The difference to physical therapy after an injury or illness is neglible, in my opinion.I myself have burned out repeatedly, and because I did not seek help to fix the underlying problem, I now suffer from recurring depression, and am completely unable to deal with stress. I used tothriveunder pressure, now I just collapse like a deflated balloon. Things used to be even worse –– much, much worse –– just a few years ago; mental training (in my case, via cognitive-behavioural psychotherapy) has really helped me build myself back together. But, because I let things completely crash, a decade after my last burnout, Istillhave a long way to go before I can fully take advantage of my existing skills, and can only hobble along, verbose Uncle Bumblefuck fashion.Now, if I can be this direct and honest with somebody whostatisticallyis likely to be a troll or attention-seeker, whoever is reading this post is surely capable of considering themselves and their own ailments in the same fashion. The particular problem at hand might be psychological, psychosocial (being manipulated by the "friend" into believing things that are not real), or physical (having ingested a real RF ID transmitter or similar gadget). It isimportantto consider all three, and not exclude one just because youbelieve. This is the cost, definition, and benefit, of being rational.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 06:35:27 am
content: Subscribing to this one

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 06:39:58 am
content: Quote from: bd139 on July 20, 2022, 06:35:27 amYou meanie.But yeah, I did take a few minutes to decide whether to try this –– attempt to help either way, and justassumethis is not attention/support-seeking behaviour ––, and am rather curious about the end results. Hopefully, it won't blow back up in my face, but hey, life is a gamble. I am a Help Helper (Apustaja) at heart, after all.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: July 20, 2022, 06:48:09 am
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 20, 2022, 06:32:13 amPost of the week

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 06:56:07 am
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on July 20, 2022, 04:45:24 amHurry up!! Or this interesting science project might just go down the toilet...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 07:09:21 am
content: Quote from: ebastler on July 20, 2022, 06:56:07 amGood point! Best to capture all poop for close analysis.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 07:26:32 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 20, 2022, 07:09:21 amUgh don't go there. I had to clean someone's house out once who did that. There were about 200 bottles of piss I had to empty out. Similarly focused individual. Very paranoid, very into alternative theories for everything.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 07:30:07 am
content: Quote from: bdidds0831 on July 20, 2022, 01:55:55 amSo have I, although it's been a year since the injection and I think the battery has run out, as I decided not to get the booster.

author: mclute0
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 07:31:28 am
content: I think there are some people in Noida, Uttar Pradesh, that will help you out if you send them a $500 Visa Gift card, but I don't have their VOIP phone number anymore since they keep changing it.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 07:51:54 am
content: Quote from: bdidds0831 on July 20, 2022, 01:55:55 amSource of quote:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/hanheld-frequency-analyzer-question/If you digested such a thing, it would usually pass out of the body, naturally, and into a toilet.It would usually very rapidly run out of electrical power, and stop working. As it would have a tiny battery, hence only a tiny amount of electricity available from it, and data/other transmissions, usually need a fair wack of electricity.I suspect your 'friend' who told you this (if I have understood things correctly, from a quick skim through), is either mistaken or trying to fool you, a bit like a magic trick.Alternatively get your mental health checked out.Also, why would anyone bother doing this, assuming you are a relatively normal person?I.e. NOT a secret agent, top government representative, or anything.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 07:53:03 am
content: Ingested = eaten, inhaled, snortedDigested = converted to its useful constituent parts in the digestive system(Edit: Ninja'd by MK14!)Nordic Semiconductor does have 10×4×1mm BLE modules, which would well fit inside one of the larger glass capsules used for ingesting or implanting this kind of stuff. I don't know how one would power it, though. Plain ol' backscattering RFID tags are smaller. The kind used to identify pets are in ~ 12mm glass capsules a bit over 2mm in diameter, but are obviously close range only.In countries where people do not take off their shoes indoors, the sole of the shoe would make for a good hiding place for a cheap off-the-shelf BLE or even WiFi tracker. If you have a "friend" who is convinced of some conspiracy, that kind of thing could very well in their mind be justifiable to convince you of their "facts".

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 09:03:48 am
content: If I was going to have a computer in my shoes it’d be for something far more nefarioushttp://www.doynefarmer.com/roulette

author: Zenith
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 09:53:14 am
content: I have the equipment and skills to measure those frequencies.Send me $500 and I'll tell you what they are. There'll be no need for you to travel at all.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 10:07:30 am
content: Quote from: bdidds0831 on July 20, 2022, 01:55:55 amYou're don't needs to measure it, because it cannot help you. Instead of that you're needs to find the signal source in your body and then decide what to do with it. Do you have any implants in your body?

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 11:35:55 am
content: Quote from: MK14 on July 20, 2022, 07:51:54 amIf it is small enough it might get stuck in the appendix, and never come out through the poop tube.For battery operated devices you are quite right that it will run out very quickly, unless he swallowed a device with one of those new nuclear diamond batteries. They can last for everIf it is a RFID type of device then the power comes from an external device. For instance Philips has "smart" cards called MIFARE cards. Here the card reader generates a field that induces power in a coil that turns the chip on. Then communication starts. But this is very near field and requires a fairly large coil. For as far as I know this is also how newer wireless bank cards work. Been out of this line of work for a long time and did not keep up with technological evolution of it.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 11:39:58 am
content: "Can I pay someone $500 to measure frequencies"Yes, yes you can. Hell I'll do it for $350.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:07:46 pm
content: I'll do it for $349.99

author: Zenith
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:10:15 pm
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on July 20, 2022, 11:35:55 amWhat reason does he have to think he swallowed this device? Was it deliberate, say as part of an experiment, or was it slipped into his food?What sort of device was it? How big was it?Why does he think it's still in him?If he didn't swallow it, it must be some sort of implant. How did it come to be implanted?What's the story with the friend who can read the frequency on a computer. How does this work? He can obviously pick it up, so why can't he locate the source?This is either a spoof or someone undergoing an irrational excursion.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:11:42 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on July 20, 2022, 12:07:46 pmPsychological warfare? Just the one cent

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:15:54 pm
content: Quote from: Zenith on July 20, 2022, 12:10:15 pmYou think?Read his other posthttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/hanheld-frequency-analyzer-question/msg4306027/#msg4306027How does one digest something? Probably by swallowing it, and then one could think of something being hidden in food.We used to do something like that when our cat needed medicine

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:23:06 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on July 20, 2022, 12:07:46 pmbd139 is not your choice - he's too honest.I will let you fill out a questionnaire such as what frequencies you expecting to find. We endeavor to fulfill your requests in our lab. Our aim here is 100% customer satisfaction!

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:23:53 pm
content: Mulder!!!!

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:29:55 pm
content: Quote from: MikeK on July 20, 2022, 12:23:53 pmI prefer Scully

author: Zenith
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:33:14 pm
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on July 20, 2022, 12:15:54 pmNo need to swallow something to digest it on the astral plane this is happening on.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:39:58 pm
content: Lab time per hour may exceed your budget.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:40:27 pm
content: Doh, why did you have to lock the OP's other thread, I had valuable advice for him.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 12:44:38 pm
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on July 20, 2022, 12:11:42 pmLook at bd's avatar! He has said he will change it, but I think concealing honesty would be a shame

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 01:05:00 pm
content: To OP. Also, did you have your/a mobile phone with you, when you had these experiences?If so, did your friend ever have access, at some point to that mobile phone?Because (as a prank/joke/fun/etc), they could have theoretically installed a tracking app (or similar), which 'sends' your location to their mobile phone. There are also relatively small tracking devices, for checking the location of potentially lost luggage and things. Which they could have hidden, in some of your belongings, that you usually have with you.Such as airtagshttps://www.apple.com/uk/airtag/N.B. These are NOT swallowed at all.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 01:20:39 pm
content: Quote from: MK14 on July 20, 2022, 01:05:00 pmWho said anything about location tracking? I think you are over-interpreting the OP's posts. "I have wireless chip inside me that broadcasts signal to my friend who can read the frequency on computer." is what they wrote.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 01:32:05 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on July 20, 2022, 01:20:39 pmThe OP is apparently being very limited, as to the wider picture as to what is going on. So I may indeed have filled in the missing details, with speculation.I'm also, probably taking too much notice of other replies in this thread.The supplied story, does not seem to add up technically speaking. They would seem to be mistaken, in a number of areas.I'm initially giving them the benefit of the doubt, as to what is really going on.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 01:46:53 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on July 20, 2022, 12:44:38 pmThe only thing I was concealing is that mine was an estimate and as a software guy you'll get 90% of the job done for the price and have to pay the same again to get the other 90% of the project delivered

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 01:50:04 pm
content: Quote from: MK14 on July 20, 2022, 01:32:05 pmGuess we have to wait and see if the original poster comes back with additional information. That is if we did not scare him off.And if he is genuine, like Nominal Animal somewhat hopes, the trend of posts might become better, but I think the best advise has already been given in the first couple of posts. "Seek professional medical help"

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 02:17:55 pm
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on July 20, 2022, 01:50:04 pmI agree, bdidds0831/OP, should "Seek professional medical help".

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 02:28:47 pm
content: This sounds like an important issue if you are willing to travel, so don't be a cheapskate.I will do it for $850BTW, the answer is 7.83Hz. PM me for the address to mail your cheque.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 02:49:34 pm
content: Quote from: magic on July 20, 2022, 02:28:47 pmSchumann resonance aside, there are several wave patterns in the 1 Hz to 15 Hz range detectable in allliving human brains, caused by the neuronal activity in the brain.Interestingly, changes in theta wave patterns in particular (those in the 4 - 7 Hz range) are associated with several developmental and psychiatric disorders.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 02:51:13 pm
content: Quote from: MK14 on July 20, 2022, 01:32:05 pmYou have a point there. The OP might not have much technical knowledge, a prankster friend might have fed them a story about being able to "read" or even locate that signal, and they related that poorly in their posts. Can't exclude that possibility.What had me assume that they have some technical background, and that this really was only about detecting an emitted frequency, was their mention of a "handheld analyzer to measure frequencies" in the other post. But that could also mean either (a) they are telling us a troll story, or (b) they are non-technical, seriously concerned, and have been down this rabbit hole deep enough to actually buy some equipment.Let's wait whether the OP comes back with more details, so we can figure out which scenario we are deailing with.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 02:51:32 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on July 20, 2022, 01:46:53 pmOf course; silly of me to forget that. Honour restored.

author: Terry Bites
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 03:07:31 pm
content: Was this implanted by aliens?Have you considered psychic surgery?Do you really have a friend?I'd wait a few days and keep checking the toilet before you flush.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 03:19:45 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on July 20, 2022, 02:51:13 pmMaybe he was just referring to his smart phone with a wifi analyzer app installed

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 03:21:12 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on July 20, 2022, 01:46:53 pmYou mean to say 90% of the remaining 10% of the project and so on, meaning he's going to pay you for ever to get the job doneI know how the softwareboyspeople work. Used to be one

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 04:09:50 pm
content: There you go (scroll to 4:00 to "frequency measurement" magic):https://youtu.be/zTtVcUp7S6U7

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 04:37:52 pm
content: Quote from: Zero999 on July 20, 2022, 07:30:07 ammeh, i'm not worried about that bill gates tracking device. the firmware crashed long before the battery ran out.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 04:38:58 pm
content: beware of comic radiation !

author: rob77
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 04:43:15 pm
content: buy the $50 spectrum analyzer on aliexpress and save yourself $450 (e.g. for a session at psychotherapist)

author: mindcrime
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 04:49:44 pm
content: I don't even need any equipment or skills (which is good, since I have none of the latter) - I already know the frequency due to my connections with the Österlhauden SÖT Society, Gmbh. I can't say too much here for obvious reasons, but Western Union me the $500.. no, wait, I'll give an EEVblog *discount* - just Western Union me $417.92, and I'll send you the codes and associated dossier. As a bonus if you reply in the next 600000000 nanoseconds, I'll include your HAARP brainwave scan! Act now, supplies are limited!

author: hexreader
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 05:53:37 pm
content: Quote from: rob77 on July 20, 2022, 04:43:15 pmBe aware that the standard antenna cannot detect a transmitter that has been swallowed. You will need to buy a rectennaSorry.... could not resist

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 06:11:02 pm
content: Quote from: Terry Bites on July 20, 2022, 03:07:31 pmAliens use a completely different tech.Besides, the little grey guys with bug eyes are just travel agents for sentient extraterrestrial bacteria colonies, saying hi to their distant cousins, and having a rustic holiday. We humans happen to have nice fast nerve pathways beween our guts and our brains as a built-in feature, so no real modifications are necessary either; although ruminating animals do have more interesting catering.I do sometimes wonder exactly who came up with the combination of refined sugars, salt, and fats. It tends to reprogram humans through their digestive system.Quote from: Terry Bites on July 20, 2022, 03:07:31 pmThat's just sleight of hand and charlatans; please ignore them.Quote from: Terry Bites on July 20, 2022, 03:07:31 pmThe proper question to as is is the person you think is your friend, really afriend, or just someone trying to take advantage of you by posing as a friend?Another interesting question is "does Terry Bites ever help anyone except themselves?"Quote from: Terry Bites on July 20, 2022, 03:07:31 pmI'd say there is no reason to be so anal, unless you're really into scatology anyway.

author: pcprogrammer
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timestamp: July 20, 2022, 06:39:42 pm
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 20, 2022, 06:11:02 pmI thought the martians were always depicted in green

author: mindcrime
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 06:47:52 pm
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on July 20, 2022, 06:39:42 pmNo, no, no. Get it right. The Standard JFK Martians are Green, but the Rebel Yakuza Martians (non-shapeshifting) are Grey, while the Rebel Shapeshifting Ninja Martians are a greenish-grey with a slightly jaundiced tint. And the CIA Martians that are genetically crossed with Neanderthals are like that, but with buggier eyes.

author: Zenith
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timestamp: July 20, 2022, 07:18:19 pm
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 20, 2022, 06:11:02 pmSeriously, I'm not sure how to deal with someone who is either a joker or mentally disturbed. I'm inclined to call their bluff or laugh at them. I don't think it's great idea to take them seriously. Ignoring them is a possibility.I once had dealings with a schizophrenic who was convinced people on TV were watching him. He'd bought a few TVs in the hope of getting one where they wouldn't be watching him. I suggested he bought two TVs and put them screen to screen, so they could watch each other and leave him alone. He was intrigued by the idea. I don't think he did it.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 08:10:50 pm
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on July 20, 2022, 06:39:42 pmGreen? No, the martians are robots. I know some of them: Booze, Oopsie, and Perse.Quote from: Zenith on July 20, 2022, 07:18:19 pmPsychosis –– the condition of mind where one really cannot tell what is real and what is not –– is a tough one; especially the kind where the broken worldviewfeelsmore real than reality itself. In a very real way, it's what makes it so difficult to deal with.

author: armandine2
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timestamp: July 20, 2022, 08:13:23 pm
content: Quote from: bdidds0831 on July 20, 2022, 01:55:55 amBrandon, in electronics you do find willing to pay merchants who have the equipment you want is only half the battle.

author: Zenith
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 08:58:09 pm
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 20, 2022, 08:10:50 pmI have an idea that's what we are dealing with here, each in our different ways, some sympathetic, some less so.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 09:25:40 pm
content: Quote from: Zenith on July 20, 2022, 08:58:09 pmDid you readmy first post on the matter? I'd be very curious to know what this thread really was about, myself.It is the (proverbial) "I'm not here to hear your arguments, I'm here to be emotionally supported by you all, and to hear you praise me" line that when crossed, in my opinion makes ridicule and laughter an appropriate reaction.Some people just do not know anything about engineering or science for whatever reason – maybe they're young, lacked access to proper education, were raised up in a community/society/culture where science was rejected and substituted with one religious text or another – but unless they actively reject the science instead of trying to learn, they only lack knowledge; they aren't lost to the antirationalist hordes yet.In this case, it seems to me OP didn't cross that line yet. Indeed, they could very well be somebody being manipulated by someone else posing as their "friend", but really exploiting their lack of basic scientific and engineering knowledge for whatever reason. If so, the reaction from the forum is quite unfortunate; rather mob-like. Then again, statistically, this type of messagehasusually lead to discussions where rationality and logic is rejected the stronger the longer the thread... Which also means that if OP is genuinely interested in a rational, scientific solution, they've been doubly unfairly treated by the forum, just because they lacked knowledge. No, I for one am willing to take the risk here, and err on the other side instead.

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 09:27:51 pm
content: Quote from: Zenith on July 20, 2022, 07:18:19 pmDamn, that's a great idea for everyone

author: Zenith
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2022, 09:48:16 pm
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 20, 2022, 09:25:40 pmYou are a very kind and sympathetic person. I'm not.

author: free_electron
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timestamp: July 21, 2022, 12:39:51 am
content: Quote from: hexreader on July 20, 2022, 05:53:37 pmby your analogy an antenna can only detect ants ?

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 01:31:52 am
content: Quote from: magic on July 20, 2022, 09:27:51 pmI use a mirror for that.I am too cheap to buy a second TV

author: rfclown
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timestamp: July 21, 2022, 04:03:58 am
content: This is an age old question. What's the frequency Kenneth?

author: radiolistener
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timestamp: July 21, 2022, 07:27:43 am
content: My friend who works at RF monitoring inspection told me a story: some people wrote several requests to the RF monitoring inspection, he wrote that his neighbor exposing him with high power RF radiation through walls and he has headache and other symptoms... Guys at RF monitoring inspection thought that this people has some mental illness, and didn't want to process that request. But since they should respond they came to his house, took measurements and, as expected, didn't find anything dangerous. Having finally decided that the man was crazy, in order to calm him down they promised to go to a neighbor and talk with him. When they rang their neighbor's doorbell, a man wearing a tinfoil hat came out. And they saw a dozens of microwave ovens behind him... As it turned out, he really tried to exposure neighbors with the help of many magnetrons from microwave ovens, he explained this by saying that the voices of aliens ordered him to do that...

author: pcprogrammer
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timestamp: July 21, 2022, 07:45:31 am
content: Quote from: radiolistener on July 21, 2022, 07:27:43 amJust to feed some conspiracy here, where the aliens Russians

author: Nominal Animal
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timestamp: July 21, 2022, 08:42:45 am
content: Quote from: radiolistener on July 21, 2022, 07:27:43 am1. Yep: youneverknow if those with odd worries do actually have a reason to worry or not. Just because they worry, does not meantheyare the crazy one.2. While hearing voices is usually related to mental issues like psychosis, every now and then there are cases where the poor person is just utterly gullible (there is even a developmental disorder that makes one particularly susceptible), and being "pranked" by "friends" or neighbors. In some very rare cases, money –– say, an inheritance –– can be involved, making everything doubly messy and possibly all evil.Sure, statistics do give us a picture, and that says it's mostly people with mental issues, and trolls. But, at the individual level, just like Dave described in a recent video, we need to understand that having an unpopular or unreasonable opinion or thought does not mean that individual should be rejected and ostracised, or that all of their opinions or questions should be rejected, and their videos no longer watched.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 08:48:47 am
content: Be it as it may, the original poster has not returned yet, so no way of knowing yet if he/she is for real

author: mnementh
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timestamp: July 21, 2022, 02:04:52 pm
content: "Even paranoids have enemies." ~Golda Meir in negotiations with Henry Kissengermnem"What is the difference between hearing voices that aren't there and not hearing voices that are?""About $100 an hour and 6 months of sessions."

author: rob77
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 09:22:17 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on July 21, 2022, 12:39:51 amso that's why it shows crap-all ... the signal is impeded by the impedance of the Ant-enna

author: mindcrime
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timestamp: July 21, 2022, 10:02:10 pm
content: I have to admit, I generally assume that posts like the OP's are one of two things:1. A random troll just dicking around2. A forum regular taking the piss and having some fun at our expenseIn the unlikely case this was posted by someone who genuinely believes they have a transmitter chip inside of them, I hope they find the help they need, whether it's a good psychologist, or a good surgeon who also knows how to run a spectrum analyzer.

author: mindcrime
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timestamp: July 21, 2022, 10:03:23 pm
content: Quote from: rfclown on July 21, 2022, 04:03:58 amAnd based on real events, no less!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#%22Kenneth,_what_is_the_frequency?%22

author: MK14
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timestamp: July 22, 2022, 08:14:06 am
content: Quote from: mindcrime on July 21, 2022, 10:02:10 pmThey seem to have a similar writing style to some of the otherweirdthreads we sometimes seem to have here. Especially the "My neighbor is sending powerful radio/infrasound/other waves into my flat, and I can't sleep, please help", types of thread.

author: Calambres
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 10:52:48 am
content: The OP is only 2 messages in this forum and both on the same subject in two different threads. Not even bothered to reply here. If that is not a troll alert, what is?On the other hand, this is a quite funny topic nonetheless

author: ebastler
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timestamp: July 22, 2022, 10:58:39 am
content: Quote from: Calambres on July 22, 2022, 10:52:48 amWell, if he is genuine, I could understand if he is put off by this not-so-empathetic discussion, and does not feel like following up.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: July 22, 2022, 11:09:34 am
content: Quote from: mindcrime on July 21, 2022, 10:02:10 pmFriend of mine's kid accidently swallowed a $2 coin and they could track it with a metal detector. But it never came out...

author: Zenith
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timestamp: July 22, 2022, 11:22:26 am
content: Quote from: Calambres on July 22, 2022, 10:52:48 amProbably a troll, in which case he's had his money's worth.Could be a sensitive soul genuinely seeking help, and has been mocked mercilessly.In either case you can see why he wouldn't be back.It is funny.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 12:25:36 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 22, 2022, 11:09:34 amWell then his kid still has money in the bank(Sorry could not resist)

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 12:28:31 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on July 22, 2022, 10:58:39 amLets hope that if he is genuine, he is now visiting a proper doctor to help with his problem.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 12:30:29 pm
content: Quote from: Zenith on July 22, 2022, 11:22:26 amAnd so did we

author: tggzzz
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timestamp: July 22, 2022, 12:31:04 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 22, 2022, 11:09:34 amIn the week before I was due to have an MRI, I swallowed a gold crown (tooth, not coin!). I was not amused about the possibility that stron magnetic fields might cause it to heat up or make a new exit hole.While panning for gold, I found it.I don't care if that is "too much information"

author: Zenith
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timestamp: July 22, 2022, 12:42:11 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 22, 2022, 11:09:34 amWhen my dad was kid in the 1920s there was a girl in the street who swallowed a shilling. That was a lot of money at the time, so to the amusement of everyone, they went through the unpleasant business of recovering it.For the rest of her life she was known as Sally Shitshilling.

author: Infraviolet
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2022, 12:42:42 am
content: I might just throw one little note in to this conversation, many people who feel they are sensitive to radio emissions are totally fine if you black out the LEDs which blink in the wi-fi router they are so scared of. So long as they can't see there is an operating radio device near them all their "symptoms" suddenly disappear, conclude from that what you will.On a serious note: If you really need to measure a frequency, many voltmeters have a frequency counter mode built in, such meters are perhaps £30. This is for fairly low frequencies usually. And a Pi Pico £4 microcontroller can be programmed with an online project, searchable somewhere, to be a really cheap oscilloscope to look for higher frequencies and show FFT data. There is also a thing called an RTL-SDR for radio frequencies, about £20 for a "brand named" one where the manufacturer has verified it will work with GNUradio.