Urgent request for US West Coast shipping contacts - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 10:43:55 am
content: I have an urgent and extreme shipping requirement. I need to find a US west coast shipping logistics company that can undertake a difficult pickup and shipping project, with pickup near Sacramento IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.The project is detailed here:http://everist.org/dm/(There's another version of that online with all the contact details, but that's for prospective contractors.)It involves boxing and loading a 20' shipping container with a pile of technical manuals that will pretty much fill the container. Then shipping it to Sydney - but that's the easy part. The pickup is the insane part.I have some inquiries in progress, but am seeking contact with other potential US shipping agents that might be capable of this job.Any readers on the US West coast (or Oz) that are aware of potentially capable shipping companies, please post here.Yes, I know it's crazy, and I know how much it will cost (approximately.) Call me nuts, I don't care.And yes I can afford it.Previous mention:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/goodies-on-ebay-disguised-as-scrap/msg3761939/#msg3761939

author: I wanted a rude username
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 11:16:20 am
content: Just want to point out that if the congestion currently affecting US ports scuttles your plans, you can probably negotiate with the seller to pay for another year on that storage unit, and/or take it over from them.Good luck, you magnificent bastard.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 11:29:12 am
content: Intriguing.Have you checked with "library movers" in the US? "Iron Mountain" is one we routinely used for lots of paper storage.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 11:31:03 am
content: Quote from: I wanted a rude username on October 27, 2021, 11:16:20 amRe transfering the storage unit - unfortunately no. The seller says he's previously tried to transfer ownership to another family member, and the storage company refuses. They will only finish a lease if the unit is emptied and clean. Seems really inflexible to me, and I can see I'll probably end up trying to argue with them about it. But maybe it really won't be possible. This is the biggest uncertainty. Otherwise I'd just pay for another month.And he's migrating to the East coast. Cannot retain any connection to the storage unit.The ports congestion - yeah, JUST my bad luck with timing. But I am cynical about the situation improving any time soon, so best to try getting it out as soon as possible. (I believe the psychopathic death-cult Elites are seriously trying to smash the world economy and kill most of us. But lets not get into that discussion here. Just mentioning it as part of the background to why I'm trying hard to grab this manuals windfall. I consider it most unlikely to ever happen again, and even the shipping might soon become permanently impossible.)QuoteThanks. Need it.

author: fcb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 11:52:52 am
content: Shipping is absolutley nuts at the moment and is only getting worse, I have family in shipping and they have never ever seen or heard of anything like it, the system is not creaking it is basically broken.If it's important - you'd be better off getting on a plane and sorting it out in the US.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 11:58:37 am
content: I think you're looking for an international freight forwarder.http://www.a2globalshipping.com/us/ca/sacramentoWorth a try, I guess.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 12:04:20 pm
content: Quote from: jpanhalt on October 27, 2021, 11:29:12 amThanks for that. I've left a query with them. Ha ha, but if fees are proportional to company web site polish, I probably can't afford *them*.Quote from: fcb on October 27, 2021, 11:52:52 amI know, I read a lot. Broken on the West Coast, seems OK on East Coast. Also Sydney Port Botany seems to be running fine. But supply chains collapsing everywhere.QuoteWould if I could, but cannot. Our lovely Oz government won't allow us to leave if not kill-jabbed. Which I'm not and won't be.Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on October 27, 2021, 11:58:37 amI've left a query. But arrgh, their forms use google login. I have several different google aliases (which it hates) and there seemed to be no way to make the form accept my attempts to switch google account. I *loathe* google so much.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 01:10:04 pm
content: I think you might temporarily exceed Dave for the title of "That crazy Aussie bloke" - but I admire your efforts.All the best luck!!CALL TO ARMSEnablers - Your time is NOW!!

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 01:36:34 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on October 27, 2021, 12:04:20 pmHow about hiring someone who is and can do it for you? Perhaps not, it'll probably cost too much.

author: sandalcandal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 01:49:17 pm
content: I haven't actually used them but I have in the past talked tohttp://www.clarkeglobal.com.au/and I found them very on the ball and helpful. Maybe they'll be able to help you here too?

author: andy3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 03:54:58 pm
content: What are the chances of getting them moved to a facility to scan, index them and transfer online for you to download?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 04:01:15 pm
content: Quote from: andy3055 on October 27, 2021, 03:54:58 pmHow many MILLION$ do you have?Besides, that still doesn't address the critical factor - TIME. There isprecious littletime to secure them from the storage unit.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 04:08:04 pm
content: I would try to track down the people behind this showhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_Warsthey might have insights.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 04:43:31 pm
content: RE; Storage WarsI have used independent haulers for several things, usually farm equipment or other large items, like a riding mower and mini-excavator. I contracted through UShip (https://www.uship.com/freight/). They are very price competitive. The excavator (about 6 tons) was about $400 from Southwest Missouri to Cleveland. That is, less than what gasoline would cost for my round trip. Unfortunately, they do not do packing. While they will load their trailers with big items, I suspect they won't want to load 100+ boxes unless palleted and given access to a forklift.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 05:57:46 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on October 27, 2021, 10:43:55 amI'm not sure what your cost estimates are, but given my luck finding people to do 'stuff' lately, I think you're in for a challenge. To get all that done in the time you have seems unlikely, so your backup plan needs to be to find someone that will, for a substantial fee, go get everything and move it to another larger storage facility for starters. Then it can be packed up in a more leisurely manner while you arrange a shipping container. With shipping containers, there seems to be an abundance of them here right now and it is inbound shipping that is maxed out, not outbound. So maybe, just maybe, that part will work out. I hope your overall budget is at least--the very least-$10K US.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2021, 10:51:29 pm
content: Quote from: bdunham7 on October 27, 2021, 05:57:46 pmI'm hoping to get it done for under $20K. But I can go above that if necessary.It's quite an amazing coincidence that this opportunity came up so suddenly, NOW, when I happen to have sufficient funds available. That alone is very rare. Fate... But I'll wait till after completion and they are actually here, before thanking Fate.Then there's subsequent costs. Need to do some building mods in my home, arrange a LOT of shelving... then maybe a year of sorting and cataloging, then offloading unwanted duplicates. THEN a long development effort (software and technique) before even contemplating a large scale scanning effort. Part of my motivation is that I think ALL scanning (past and present) of tech docs like these, has been atrociously poor. Results so far below acceptable aesthetic and ergonomic quality that they are an insult to the original doc producers. Just one point: There is no PNG in PDF. ALL the built-in image formats in PDF are either very poor compression, or excessively lossy. There is no way round this with PDF. So everything scanned to PDF is junk and needs to be redone at some time in the future when a better file standard is developed. But even PNG lacks features required for this use.Many other problems with PDF. I personally think it is a deliberately crippled standard; for reasons I suspect but can't prove so won't discuss.Anyway, that's one reason I'm doing this.Quote from: andy3055 on October 27, 2021, 03:54:58 pmThat's completely impractical (for many reasons) but also fails to meet my primary objective. Which is to preserve the physical documents for posterity. (And future improved scanning technology.)People place far too much faith in digital archives. Wait 500 or 1000 years, before saying it's a good idea to totally rely on digital archives.

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 12:31:19 am
content: Having done blind and/or unaccompanied moves:Hire a moving company to do it! Sounds obvious but the larger "house moving" companies do this sort of thing for corporates all the time. Some are international and will have personnel/locations at each end already. They will:repack into boxes/crateshire a containerload into container (co-ordinate backfilling if you want)organise container movements (at a speed of your choosing, can be very cheap if you don't mind slow)organise import/customs/biosecurityunload and unpack at end pointAll taken care of for you. Its amazing how cheap the container movements are when you don't mind waiting.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 12:44:07 am
content: Jason Scott might be able to help; he's done something similar before:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/rescue-mission-25-000-manuals-baltimore/

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 03:17:19 am
content: Quote from: Someone on October 28, 2021, 12:31:19 amYes! It is obvious. That is what this thread is about! FINDING such a company, known to be capable and getting a quote. As quickly as possible.There are so many moving & logistics companies, not enough time to search for and evaluate them properly.Got any suggestions for an actual company that you used before? URL or contact details please. Several leads I've been given elsewhere turn into briar patches because I was just given a name, but there were company mergers, etc since.Currently have three lines of inquiry active, but more would be better.Quote from: amyk on October 28, 2021, 12:44:07 amThe ManualsPlus debacle/tragedy. I had followed that one closely. See my posts in that thread? Also my notes about it here:http://everist.org/NobLog/20190223_full_spectrum.htm#alexThat was not really similar. Mainly because they were able to organize many volunteers to come onsite, to select and box what manuals they could deal with. Over several days. (And they still only got a fraction of the ManualsPlus collection.) What they did was nothing like hiring a moving company to just come and box up everything, in one day. (Which is feasible in this instance if well organized.)Someday I'd like to talk with him about where those ultimately ended up. "Somewhere in CA." It sounds like archive.org gave up on keeping them. But not now. No distractions...If I'd had half a million dollars when ManualsPlus was closing, I'd have rescued the entire lot. No kidding. With a million, just bought the entire building and kept that company going even if at a loss.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 03:22:15 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on October 28, 2021, 03:17:19 amYes, if you haven't already tried this, find a company at your end that does moving internationally and let them set it up. They will have contacts and associates for whom the deal will be somewhat normal, instead of some random guy on the phone from across the globe.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 04:23:41 am
content: Quote from: bdunham7 on October 28, 2021, 03:22:15 amActually it is a good idea. Pursuing it now.googling 'international moving companies' is quite different to 'international freight forwarders'.There are of course multiple choices. Working through them asking for quotes.

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 05:05:49 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on October 28, 2021, 04:23:41 amlol, well, you got there in the end. As you note above, any experience even from just a few years back is moot with the constant merging/changing of these companies. Although its pretty hard to stuff up piles of paper expect binders on their ends/sides and ripped binding holes as boxes will end up rotated.

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 06:20:05 am
content: QuoteWhile I do understand your preference, and that having the documents scanned and printing them out at your location might the 'bad' option, it's still better than nothing. Just keep it on the table as a last resort option?And yeah, scans do suck most of the time, but they can also be done properly. Oh, you'll love this:http://www.survivorlibrary.com/library-download.html

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 07:26:58 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on October 27, 2021, 12:04:20 pmOk well that's just stupid, and absurd hyperbole too. Kill jabbed? Give me a break, how many hundreds of millions of doses have been administered without issues? Having just got my third Pfizer recently I really struggle to even comprehend why some people make such a HUGE stink out of something so trivial. Just put on your big boy pants and get the damn shot like everyone else and then you can forget about it, it won't hurt you, it's a massive fight over a nothing burger. Frankly I don't think I'll ever understand, I got my first two jabs ~8 months ago, it took a few minutes, my arm was a little sore for a day or two, then it was over and done and on with life, and I'm just dumbfounded that there are still a few folks acting like it is this huuuuuuuuuuuuge deal.Frankly I can only assume it's just people pushing back for no other reason than they feel like someone is telling them what to do, so they're going to cut off their own nose just to spite their face. I've got a friend who is on the verge of throwing away his career over it and I've decided I just don't care, if that's the hill he wants to die on that's his right, meanwhile the rest of us have just gotten on with life and the whole vax thing is in the rearview mirror. We didn't die, we didn't get sick, no bits fell off, no new bits have sprouted, it's a huge stink over nothing.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 07:29:04 am
content: Quote from: daqq on October 28, 2021, 06:20:05 amSometimes I'm stunned at the completely delusional things people say seriously, as if they really think they are being practical.Did you skip the info-doc? Didn't notice the VOLUME of material? That pile goes back 15 feet deep, all like the visible front in the pics. And btw, some of it is real old and historical.What's the #1 problem? It's getting them out of there by the deadline. Talk of 'scanning' is bullshit. The only fallback is to extend the deadline for pickup. I expect this to have to happen one way or another.Please stop with the 'scan them' crap. You actually think 'having the documents scanned' is even conceivably possible? Some kind of good idea?And that after they're packed and containerised (by the deadline, or extended dealine), then the best next step would be to store them somewhere in the USA and pay 'someone' to scan them? (After sorting, cataloging, restoring, de-duping, indexing...)Instead of just shipping them, which is totally easy from that point.You can't be serious. And yet you sound as if you are being serious.This 'scan everything' reflex is so common, but so totally whacked... it's as if there is some kind of induced mass halucination.QuoteInto PDF? We will never agree. Also the 'screened background with overlaid text/lines' problem is still not solved. Not to mention huge foldouts, super-fine detail, thick volumes with rigid spines, thin paper with visual bleedthrough, very faint/faded ink, and a hundred other practical issues.QuoteInteresting. Also ironic. Not just that electronic docs won't last or be accessible long in a grid-down scenario, but the _first_ listed topic is Accounting.Back on topic. Turns out a lot of international home moving companies don't have commercial import/export licences. Which are needed in this instance. But some do. Awaiting responses.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 09:02:57 am
content: Exactly as predicted a few weeks ago !https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/msg3738361/#msg3738361Great score.THz, I'll give my freight forwarder a call tomorrow as he has contacts worldwide.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 09:20:11 am
content: ^ ^ ^ I'm getting a good vibe from this offer....Fingers crossed and thumbs pressed.

author: jonpaul
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 09:31:42 am
content: TerraHertz just joining this interesting thread. BRAVO for your passion and efforts!I have assisted a few silent key estates with similar manuals collections.A few moments for some notes please:I am sure you have already heard this but I can confirm:I can appreciate your intense interest to preserve and acquire these historic manuals, I have a fine collection of TEK, HP, Boonton, Fluke, Wavetek, and the printed manuals are FAR better than the PDFs.1/ Sea Freight containers are handled roughly via cranes and are never dry inside, despite silica gel, everything to be protected from months of 90% hum needs to be completely sealed.2/ Stacking the manuals to fit the container height will result in broken bindings etc due to weight and vibrations.3/ Costs would normally be ~ $3-8K $ but nowadays expect perhaps 10-30K $ US.4/ Freight forwarders are well booked up months in advance, and will not be capable to carefully pack everything.Doing all this in a few days and from the other side of the world seems impractical.I would suggest an alternate method: Try to get a few added months of storage in the existing site.You fly to SFO, rent a truck and hotel nearby the site, take a few weeks organizing and doing it exactly as you want, you can easily hire local laborers to assit.BON CHANCE!Jon

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 09:44:46 am
content: Quote from: tautech on October 28, 2021, 09:02:57 amQuote from: Brumby on October 28, 2021, 09:20:11 amHe's an old school buddy and been in the freight business for 40 years so knows a thing or two about such dealings and absolutely nothing surprises him.Does all our sea and airfreight and Customs clearance as well which is just basic bread and butter to someone of his experience. I used to do some moonlighting for him shifting international band equipment between airports and gigs in some pretty big rigs as he didn't have an HT license.As a west Auckland petrol head he's sponsored some NZ racers to the Bonneville salt flats and at times before Covid he seemed to always be in the US so knows his way around over there too.Popped him mail already so we'll see what he comes back with in the morning.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 11:15:20 am
content: I wish good luck in your ventures, THz! Great library of documentation.Since time is of the essence (and money seems to not be as tight), you can try to talk to the freight forwarder and explore the possibility of using different ports in Washington or Oregon or even route the cargo through land down to the ports in the south (Florida, Louisianna, Texas) as they are not as backed up as the ones in California.Also, as jonpaul mentioned, the packing of individual components will be important - when the movers took the entire contents of my house across the Caribbean sea, a great deal of effort was spent to compartmentalize the cargo to properly distribute weight, taking a much larger space on the container than the actual contents. Also, a great deal of effort was spent trying to maintain the contents free of the influence of the elements during transportation (silica gel, sealed packing, etc.)

author: voltsandjolts
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 12:10:16 pm
content: Might be cheaper to take a holiday to the US and scan them while you're there!

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 01:21:36 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on October 28, 2021, 09:02:57 amHa ha that IS funny. I'm so predictable.I wish I'd seen that (Oct 10.) But the TEA thread is too much for me. What was the listing price then? I'm not sure when he dropped it to US$99 buy it now.First I heard of it was a post onhttps://groups.io/g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment/topic/large_lot_of_manuals/86481088on Oct 21.QuoteYeah, it's 'win the lottery' great. For someone who thinks the paper manuals are crucial tech-culture history and must be saved. Plus, I recently have failed to find any copies anywhere of a couple of service manuals I badly need. Emphasizing that these things are rapidly becoming rarer, on the way to completely gone. About a month ago I bought 22 moving boxes full of manuals in Chicago, thinking I saw one of my needed manuals in the seller's pics. HP 8118A. Turns out it was an 8116A in the photos. Blury 6 looking like an 8. But no matter. More manuals the merrier. With those I have a family friend in Chicago handling the shipping. A pallet-load of boxes (and a Tek 576!) soon to be on their way here. But he can't help with the CA pile.QuoteThanks! Today (Thurs) I've been going through some international moving co's asking for responses. Nothing yet.You should send him the link to doco:http://everist.org/dm/There is another copy with all the contact details, if your friend asks for it.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 01:47:08 pm
content: Quote from: jonpaul on October 28, 2021, 09:31:42 amThanks for the encouragement and observations. But it does seem you didn't read my docs file online. I did mention a lot of those points. All manuals have to be packed in sturdy boxes before stacking, to prevent crush damage. Humidity in containers - I know. I once helped triage a full length shipping container contents (all historical tech docs) that had been left closed up in a field for nearly two years. Over half the contents were beyond salvage. Containers have breathing vents. Moist air comes in, condenses on the cooler contents. The water never leaves. You end up with a container that's literally a dripping rainforest. Anything like a plastic tray will become full of water. Tragic sight. I can't reveal what org did that. Not my fault - I was only present when it was discovered. Heartbreaking.The storage unit lease extension - yes, obvious. But there are unexpected difficulties. May be possible to overcome them.I cannot leave Australia. No 'vax passport' and will never have one. (Not to mention being the only one looking after my very infirm 93 yo mother.) I'm looking into someone else going. But that may not be possible either.What is a "silent key estate"? Deceased? Or owner not able to participate?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 04:56:16 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on October 28, 2021, 01:21:36 pmQuote from: TerraHertz on October 28, 2021, 01:21:36 pmOf course you are so predicable the instant I spotted beanflying's post you jumped straight to mind however not for a moment did I think you'd grab the whole lot knowing they were on the other side of the Pacific.However I'm sure there'll be lots that won't be of use to you and hopefully you can flick a good few to help lessen the investment.Quote from: TerraHertz on October 28, 2021, 01:21:36 pmDone in the initial email so he has as many facts as he needs to point us to his best contact to help you with this mammoth task.Hat's off to you THz for having such big gonads to take on something like this.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2021, 02:08:46 am
content: THzProfessional advice mainly due to the location is to give the job to an international home mover for them to collect, crate and ship to Oz then deliver directly to you and a waiting empty container that you've sourced locally in the meanwhile.General points from our discussion.....Handling freight from that part of west NA is fraught with frustrations some of which are mentioned below.Purchasing a container in the US may require additional certification before shipping companies will accept it as suitable for sea freight.Unlike downunder the availability of container swinglifts is rare therefore a trailer with container aboard may need to be parked in the facility for the duration of loading to which they may not agree.Crating the documents mechanizes the handling without the need to carry all documents up ramps and into the container on a trailer and doubles to get them off the floor.Professional home goods movers can be your one stop shop for this job and they alone are responsible for every step from the lockup to your door.Current Sydney costs for an uncertified but perfectly sound 20' box is ~$1k.Although Swift Cargo NZ said he has contacts in the SF part of the world he was not confident in their ability to pull this off in the timeframe required mainly due to the way they do things in that part of the States.Good luck THz.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2021, 04:22:56 am
content: THz,If it turns out more time is needed to commence packing and shipping, and given that the storage owners won't just transfer the rental agreement without clearing out the unit, might it be possible to have a company move the manuals into another storage unit in the same facility or a nearby one? Although not an ideal solution, it could buy you time for the international logistics.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2021, 05:32:40 am
content: Quote from: tautech on October 29, 2021, 02:08:46 amThe bit about buying a container over there was an early idea. Dropped now. Seems the moving companies much prefer to use their own. I can see why.International home movers do seem to be the best option. BUT many don't have commercial import/export licences, And since this was a commercial purchase, that licence is required. Red tape to the (non) rescue. Again.Anyway, some do.Btw, wanting a storage container here, is NOT to store the manuals. That would be a terrible idea. Shipping containers are moisture sponges, especially if there's a large water-absorbing thermal mass inside. Plus, impossible to access when the container is full. The container here is for shelved storage adjacent to a workshop.QuoteYeah, i know about the certification grades. And really I don't need to use a sea-worthy (expensive) container for backyard storage. Another reason that idea is dropped.Quote20' container on truck, parked in facility - approved! Have spoken with them.QuoteExcept I have to unload them myself at this end. One-person lift cardboard boxes it is. Also, too many manuals in a crate = more crush damage. I can reflatten the boxes and reuse them. I may also want to rebox portions of the library for more compact storage, after sorting.QuoteFingers crossed,the time constraint looks like it's solved by storage lease extension.No more time limit. Still awaiting final confirmation.Update: Yes, time limit has been eliminated.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2021, 07:07:44 am
content: OK cool.Do keep us informed as to how this pans out as the information may be useful for anyone doing similar things in the future.Fingers crossed it all goes well.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2022, 02:06:15 am
content: Just an update, and link to 'next thread in the saga' -https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/brainstorming-the-boxes-urgent-request/The boxes problems are all sorted out. 500 boxes sitting ready to be used. Currently all the ducks are in a row, now just waiting for the US shipping company to book a container space on a ship, then contact the US company that will do the boxing and loading, to arrange a date to provide a container onsite.But... the 'book a ship slot' part is highly fraught atm. May take a while yet. I'm _hoping_ for January still, but will not be surprised if it's slower.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2022, 05:26:07 pm
content: You know who I would ask for a recommendation for a moving company? An international executive relocation agency (the kind of firms big companies use when they’ve headhunted a high level executive from abroad and offer to move them overseas). Those agencies’ clients don't tolerate BS, so they’ll know which movers are reliable and can be trusted to pack and move delicate items.