Siglent SDS1104X-E Oscilloscope - How to print without black background? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2020, 03:18:14 am
content: I can't find how to print without the black background and it is burning up all my black ink. Checked manual, Googled, searched here, etc.How to; please and thank you.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2020, 03:29:23 am
content: Save/Recall>(image file type)>Screen Invert

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2020, 04:07:10 am
content: I am still working through your steps. Thank you so much for your help!

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2020, 10:36:13 am
content: I will have to do this for each individual screenshot, or will it retain the settings until I shut down?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2020, 08:15:01 pm
content: Quote from: t1d on April 05, 2020, 10:36:13 amNot sure....didn't check however you can make saving a inverted background screenshot as default for the blue Print button.Here's how:Again Save/Recall menu. Set Save/Recall>(image file type)>Screen InvertthenSet Save/Recall> Set Default key to Current setup.

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2020, 02:35:12 am
content: Quote from: tautech on April 05, 2020, 08:15:01 pmMore great info. Setting it as the default should accomplish what I want. Thank you.

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2020, 02:49:17 am
content: I gave it a try and it keeps telling me it needs a USB drive, when I try to save it, even though I selected internal memory...Is this in the manual? If so, where might I find it? I did print a hard copy of the manual, so I have that at hand.I very much appreciate your help. Thank you.

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2020, 03:38:13 am
content: I did find it in the manual in the Save/Recall chapter, but I did not understand the instructions... Any extra explanation that you could provide me would be m-u-c-h appreciated. An overview of what is going on, etc... Thank you, again.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2020, 04:54:07 am
content: Quote from: t1d on April 06, 2020, 02:49:17 amInternal memory is only available for saving Setups and Reference waveforms.Reference waveforms are self explanatory while Setups might be particular to a certain job/task you occasionally do and this compliments factory Default and custom user Default.If you are documenting a project and capturing many screenshots there is another method to get screenshots using the scope's internal webrowser that when connected to a PC and browser via LAN, the scope control interface has an additional Save Screenshot icon that grabs the screenshot and pops it into your browser's download folder.So if you have inverted screenshots set to user default they should appear in your download folder nearly as fast as you can press the button.Depending on your browser you might be able to make a special folder to drop the screenshots into.It's covered briefly in the vid here IIRC:https://siglentna.com/video/x-e-4-channel-web-browser-update-this-thing-is-fast/

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2020, 05:20:50 am
content: Thanks for the extra help. I am just going to have to play with it and see how far I get.

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2020, 09:58:34 am
content: What is working: I can get the inverted image to print to USB = GreatWhat is not working: I can not get this setup to be retained through a restart. I think this has to do with saving a setup. I have tried to follow the manual directions for saving it as a setup, but that has not worked, yet. When I restart the scope and try to recall the setup, it says no setups have been saved. So, I am doing something incorrectly.If I do have to save it as a custom setup and recall that setup each time I turn on the scope, then I need step by step directions on what keys to select and what buttons to push. Like you explained before, but going all the way through getting the settings to be retained through a restart.Since this will be a custom setup, I would also like instructions on how to keep a trace centered on the screen, when I change the Volts/Div scale. You have been kind enough to explain that in the past, but I have never gotten it to work. And, I would want to include that in the setup.Thank you for your continued help.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2020, 11:37:49 am
content: Quote from: t1d on April 06, 2020, 09:58:34 amNow I'm flying blind here and some screenshots would be helpful however let's try and provide some guidance.QuoteThe trick to saving a Setup is to select Setup #1 and press the multifunction knob so #1 is highlighted. Then press Save and a progress bar will appear and later a success notification.It is much the same for Recall, an activity bar and success notification will appear followed by a display change to the Setup previously saved.QuoteThe scope should remember all last used settings when powered ON.As you can see from earlier there are at least 2 methods of quickly getting the scope configured as you want by assigning the Default key to your preferred configuration which is the simplest once you've set it uporsaving a setup and recalling it which is a good few more key presses yet many less than setting the scope just how you want from factory Default.A little time experimenting and becoming intimate with your scope will be time well spent and serve you well into the future. These are a very capable little scope however for the novice there is a lot to get your head around so just focus one one thing at a time until you become comfortable with each feature and in good time they will all come together.QuoteCheck your Reference Position setting in the Utilities menu.See p192 in the manual.https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2017/10/SDS1000X-E_UserManual_UM0101E-E03C.pdfIf you are examining waveforms with a DC offset it's common for them to go off the display when increasing sensitivity and AC input coupling can be used to remove the DC component but be aware the DC component is no longer visible.Same waveform with DC and AC coupling.

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 11, 2020, 11:21:39 am
content: Tautech, thank you so much for your support. I have seen your posts everywhere. You are very gracious with your time, effort and expertise.I am having success with finding the function settings and changing them to what I want. However, I am still struggling and, because of my lack of experience, I don't know if the ongoing problems are with me, or the scope. For instance:- I set the scope to invert the background, to remove the black portions for printing. Even after my attempts to save this setting, it is not retained through power off/on. If I understand correctly, it should be retained, saved, or not.- I am saving my screenshots to USB, for printing. The thumb nail images do not match what was actually saved... Meaning, the thumbnail image may show a white background, but when the image is opened, it actually has a black background. And, vice versa. I know this has nothing to do with me. But, maybe the thumb drive is at fault? I have changed thumb drives and I will be watching this.These things are effecting my confidence in the unit and that makes it no fun to play with it.I will continue to work with the scope to learn its operations. As you said, that is the key to success. Thank you for your continued support.

author: n3mmr
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 11, 2020, 12:24:01 pm
content: Quote from: t1d on April 11, 2020, 11:21:39 amYou need to save your settings, from the menues, for settings to be retained across power cycles.

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 11, 2020, 12:46:51 pm
content: Quote from: n3mmr on April 11, 2020, 12:24:01 pmThank you for your reply. Hmm... Well, this creates some confusion for me...If I understand tautech correctly, he says that all of the last settings should be retained across a power cycle. (He is a Siglent dealer.) I am talking about how the scope works, as opposed to what my workflow should be. And, yes, as far as workflow is considered, saving the settings makes sense.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2020, 02:11:06 am
content: Quote from: t1d on April 11, 2020, 11:21:39 amOK, further investigations disclose a bug. Inverted images can be assigned to User Default Print button settings however this setting is not retained at reboot.Even again using Default after boot does not bring inverted images back.Reported to Siglent to fix !So for now until a fix arrives you will need each time after boot to reset inverted images in the Save/Recall menu.

author: t1d
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2020, 11:21:49 am
content: Thanks, n3mmr, for getting this straight and tautech for reporting it.

author: n3mmr
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2020, 02:34:19 pm
content: Quote from: t1d on April 12, 2020, 11:21:49 amI think I got my wires crossed, the save req was for my generator, a 2042.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 14, 2020, 12:26:37 pm
content: Quote from: t1d on April 12, 2020, 11:21:49 amIt's been confirmed and a FW fix is coming.