Firefox: Mozilla is doing bad things again - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 10:09:01 am
content: They want to introduce terms of use to Firefox and update the privacy notice 'to make some of the basic functionality of Firefox possible' (Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox,https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-terms-of-use/). Of course users are concerned, ask for clarification, and point out issues (Information about the New Terms of Use and Updated Privacy Notice for Firefox,https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/information-about-the-new-terms-of-use-and-updated-privacy/m-p/87735). That doesn't sound too bad, right? But there's that distinctive smell of hyprocrisy lurking in the background when looking at the latest FAQ changes (https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e#diff-a24e74e4595fa85440a2f4e7e5dcfe68aba6e1e593aef05a2d35581a91423847L65).

author: voltsandjolts
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 10:25:49 am
content: What's the TLDR?

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 10:50:23 am
content: It's a developing story. So far Mozilla's changes (expecially their language) point to the typical 'we may use your data in any way we like' stance. Maybe we (users) can convince Mozilla to not go down that road.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 11:58:44 am
content: Yep.Mozilla is a lost cause anyway.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 01:26:50 pm
content: Quote from: madires on February 28, 2025, 10:50:23 amI don't think so. They also are large on DEI and other woke nonsense. And you are not paying for the product, so "just not buying it" is not an option. Stop using it, last one leaving can turn off the lights.

author: Refrigerator
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 02:27:50 pm
content: It's over, guys.

author: fourtytwo42
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 06:34:58 pm
content: Moving over to Brave as I speak (Linux Mint 21.1) no problems so farI have been suspicious of Mozilla for some time and for me that's the last nail in there coffinEDIT:Actually I found Brave very clunky and it has some stupid verification popup that keeps appearingso now scrapped in favor of LibreWolf (thanks Gyro)

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 11:03:48 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on February 28, 2025, 01:26:50 pmSo far as I'm concerned, DEI's got nothing to do with anything here. Fine with me whatever ethnicity/gender, etc., the developers are. More power to them.I've just had it with that particular "open-source" project (and actually with most of them). It's a dysfunctional product that's now getting all kinds of overlays of intrusive technology that none of us need. So the hell with them.

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 11:42:44 pm
content: Quote from: fourtytwo42 on February 28, 2025, 06:34:58 pmBrave is adware. They display their own ads to you, collect info on how you behave and sell it. The fact they claim they blockother peoplestrackers is moot, that's like a security company telling you they will get rid of hecklers if you accept their hecklers, or a paint company claiming it can fix your lead paint concerns by giving you cadmium paint.Brave is the browser that in 2023 decided to install other affiliated products on Windows computers without asking the user for permission.https://www.ghacks.net/2023/10/18/brave-is-installing-vpn-services-without-user-consent/Brave is the browser that lets you donate money to creators, but then holds it and uses it for the Brave project instead.https://web.archive.org/web/20181224011529/https://twitter.com/tomscott/status/1076160979388518407In other words: it combines the worst of the popular malware of the 2000's (bundling, auto-installing affiliated software) with the worst of the popular malware of the 2010's (user tracking, advertising, manipulation of user perception of security) and traditional flat out donation scams.

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 11:45:55 pm
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on February 28, 2025, 11:58:44 amX2. That's why I locked my FF at Version 101.0.1

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 11:52:04 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on February 28, 2025, 01:26:50 pmI doubt that this has anything to do with DEI. It's more likely that this is Mozilla's way of "Moneytizing" (i.e. a fancy term forSelling) your information and maximizing their own profits.OTOH that doesn't mean that they won't sell it to anyone that is interested in DEI or pushing other Woke agendas.

author: mwb1100
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2025, 12:39:29 am
content: In theMy Firefox says it is about to die... thread@Gryo mentionedLibrefoxLibrewolf. I haven't tried it yet, but I hope it'll let me not worry about about this kind of crap.Edit: Gyro mentionedLibrewolf,notLibrefox. "Librafox" was just me mixing up Firefox and Librewolf and by coincidence there is a Librefox project with similar stated goals as Librewolf - but they are not the same. Gyro did not mention or suggest Librafox in any way. And I know nothing about it either. It was just an accident. I'm sorry if I sent anyone down the wrong path.On the other hand, if anyone does have knowledge/experience (good or bad) with Librafox, please let us know.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2025, 07:44:22 am
content: Quote from: fourtytwo42 on February 28, 2025, 06:34:58 pmYes, their several last versions was very suspicious. For some unknown reason it started to work slower.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2025, 11:59:27 am
content: Quote from: mwb1100 on March 01, 2025, 12:39:29 amIt was LibreWolf...https://librewolf.net/that I suggested, not Librefox - I'd never heard of Librefox and would want to look at it in detail before trying it (it appears to be a temporary version, consisting of a bunch of config files for Firefox, at the moment).Reading around the web, Librewolf and Brave (and Tor) browsers seem to be the most private, I have both installed, avoiding anything Tor.

author: mwb1100
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2025, 12:16:11 am
content: Quote from: Gyro on March 01, 2025, 11:59:27 amI apologize. I goofed. The post has been updated/corrected.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2025, 12:47:04 pm
content: Mozilla's response to the outcry:- Mozilla is already revising its new Firefox terms to clarify how it handles user data (https://www.theverge.com/news/622080/mozilla-revising-firefox-terms-of-use-data)- An update on our Terms of Use (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/)

author: golden_labels
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2025, 07:12:02 pm
content: You know, what makes me cringe?Clicking alarmistic links led to more private data being sold, than what Mozilla ever had in their hands. Journalists did a great job in attracting victims.Most people didn’t notice, that the initial wording used was a standard template intellectual property legalese. Not the language used in privacy context. Headline-induced text blindness? Journalistic copypastosis?

author: mikerj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2025, 09:07:20 pm
content: Quote from: golden_labels on March 02, 2025, 07:12:02 pmWhy did they refuse to clearly state that they wouldn't sell your data, and then double down on the ambiguous wording when there was backlash?

author: mikerj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2025, 09:10:44 pm
content: Quote from: Gyro on March 01, 2025, 11:59:27 amJust FYI, the Librewolf dev team is hugely and unapologetically woke. They brand anyone that doesn't align with their ideology as "right wing" and ban them.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2025, 09:52:48 pm
content: Not sure why you would care about the dev team, its the last thing I worry about when using the internet. I might care if it was a luxury purchase of some kind, like art..Some how I don't think it will have too big of an effect on whatever politics you support.. definitely pick the ones with features that make you feel safe.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2025, 09:57:04 pm
content: Looks like the non-woke dev teams in open-source projects are pretty rare these days.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2025, 10:02:35 pm
content: when is the last time a republican gave anyone a free lunch??charity?Also with lack of work from home, those isolated people are gonna keep doing open source

author: John B
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2025, 10:49:04 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on March 06, 2025, 09:52:48 pmI go back and forth on the idea, but I think on some level if you use the product, that becomes a stat in securing funding and donations, to the exclusion of other projects. After all there's only a limited pie of resources to divvy up.It has some effect to use the products that embody what you want to see in the world. Unfortunately in practice it's almost impossible to actually live by that principle.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2025, 11:25:51 pm
content: I feel like I am way too small and everything is way too against me to make this decision.Now, someone in the head of a large company can decide to choose tech to use. Usually they fuck it up, like say destroying a corporate network with citrix, but theoretically they have the resources to choose.The internet is like hostile and private individuals dont have luxury. Its a security issue. Want ad's that can have been compromised to download malware? tracking ? I don't think you have the luxury . Not with a browser anyway. You can pick a washing machine, similar cars, food brands with little personal consequence, but it does not seem a browser is one of those things to me. I think there are very clear smart and not smart decisions in that region, based purely on functionality.Maybe in a deep future where its all safe.. right now there is like a possibility of getting your computer sacked because of a download (and possibly losing more then your data). It has to do with picking software that has the maximum probability of your personal rights not being violated. I think it surpasses any kind of political or other goals. It seems that there is a very disproportionate gap between your personal needs involving computers and far away political ideals. So I think you should take what you can get and be happy with it.The only reasonable political statement that is sane to make is to make your own team to make a competitor product with your own team.. ideals. But not boycotting.I think its just one of those things that on a local level is going to go against ideology. I have seen like THE MOST COMMUNIST ass practices ever engaged in like super duper conservative companies, because its the only practical solution at the time....v. If they tried to use their "upper ideology" to solve those local problems, it would get smashed because it seems insane.Its state level foreign threats that you might have to contend with on a computer. And trying to make it safe for whatever your personal desire is, would wreck the economy... so make due

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2025, 01:08:24 am
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on March 06, 2025, 10:02:35 pmI don't know what your point is supposed to be here but the veterans group that I'm in gives out free lunches about 6 times every month toanyone that comes inand almost all of the members in it are Republicans so FY!

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2025, 01:24:54 am
content: sorry, I forgot to include that its skilled advanced labor that has a high price, not food service needed for basic survival (minimum wage)I think the only thing they associate that with is a confidentiality agreementI was always impressed with open office. It let you write a professional enough looking resume that can get you hired and make more money in 1 year then going to a free soup kitchen for 30 years. All because of a free program. And if others had similar experiances, the soup kitchen equivalent would be like a mega network with 500000 locations.I am sure those fools writing GIMP for free helped a few million artistic individuals land jobs, who can't afford to get a PS license. And Blender.OO probobly enabled the formation of efficient bureaucracies in third world nations too, but that is just a suspicion.A small business getting a free accountant ? (that's what it would be in the 50's, for a simple open office calc download, now known as libreoffice)Somehow I don't see the comparison between this and a food dole.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2025, 02:11:03 am
content: You can read about the guy that was banned:https://forum.level1techs.com/t/linux-sucks-2024-bryan-lunduke/214592/25https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/muc18q/whats_the_deal_with_bryan_lunduke/Or just not care.For me it sounds a bit painful to use, if you want to stick with firefox:https://misile00.github.io/notes/Firefox-Hardening

author: djacobow
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2025, 02:32:11 am
content: I'm the author of a Firefox add on that was delisted this week after nine years because it "violated their terms of use." It was one of those extensions that changes the names of politicians into insults. Some of my insults were rather saucy, but their pretext was bullshit. That said it demeaned or threatened a protected group. The things targetedpoliticians by name-- no protected group.Anyway, it sucks and I'm pretty pissed with Mozilla.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2025, 05:49:04 am
content: I've used LibreWolf in the last couple of years, and happy with it. Worked just fine so far.It's a Firefox fork, so you can have in LibreWolf the same settings you used to have in Firefox, except you don't have to constantly fight undoing all the "for your own good" dumb "features" nobody ever asked for.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2025, 10:36:38 am
content: Has anyone tried Zen?

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2025, 10:47:46 am
content: Quote from: Refrigerator on February 28, 2025, 02:27:50 pmThis is a great example of the global power blobs desire for granular level censorship and individual tracking. Love how conspiracies have all turned out true, who knew.This is why Palantir stock is thru the roof. Its the tool connecting all these loose ends you never imagined could be connected.There are models of you around the world, real alter ego stuff. Mostly corporations and some governments. The more they can connect your movements, the more predictive they become. That means merging the models using Palantir. You can see by their performance, everyone wants in.A real world example of how this affects you... every person in the 1st world has a value to big data markets, and your data is bought and sold. Over the course of a year, every 1st world citizen has an avg of about $20k made off their data with no knowledge but sneaky TOS consent of that individual.Might seem like a small change to a TOS here from Mozilla but its not, its part of a larger program to slow melt national borders and creep-foster-in a global control structure based on censorship. The United Nations has all the plans on their website, funny enough.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2025, 12:25:11 pm
content: Quote from: mapleLC on March 07, 2025, 10:47:46 amThat's not something I usually follow, but I checked and you're right. If you look at its stock over the last year, it's on a major upwards trend.This is a concerning sign indeed.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2025, 07:59:52 pm
content: That kind of thing is riddled with many assumptions. I have a feeling its massively over valued, they probably convinced people to believe in certain assumptions that will not hold up to scrutiny for systems like planterI think there is a shit storm waiting to happen when it gets involved in some long range strike on somethingI always found it interesting that the ancient roman army had a... regulation that basically said the military is not allowed to consult soothsayers. I don't think we do, because of things like Project Stargate and some other allegations.If the system does not have consciousness, isent it just a kind of like a numerologist ? counting how many words show up next to other words. Unless someone literally followed the entire chain of reasoning it seems like total BS.fEven for a 'kill chain' (the most extreme application) all they really do at the end before they push a 'authorize' button is figure out if it is a POSSIBLE target. Does it make sense to use resources to hit that target ? I think the strict answer is still NO, because reasoning did not get it to that point.

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 01:29:54 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on March 08, 2025, 07:59:52 pmFar from it. The basis of Palantir is drawing inference. Happens that is also the basis of AI, inference engines that can change their own rules in a feedback loop.This is facilitated thru DARPA and InQtel programs. Facebook and Google are also DARPA programs. Very long history of this. Look up the date "DARPA LifeLog" ended and "Facebook" was created. Same exact day, check for yourself.Most modern world tech has its origins in the military. Predictive modelling is big for them.Where this ties to Mozilla is that "the machine" has lost control of "the message (tm)" via platform control loss like META and X. The next move is to loophole the browser, to the point where the browser will be the censorship filter... which is the long term goal with this (for example X wants to show content, but the gov filter in the browser stops it).Here is a deeper look at Palantir. Imagine the advance in modeling they could do with data from the browser directly.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 02:04:04 pm
content: what im saying is that it could easily come to a unlikely conclusion compared to a person looking at the same data.Just because it can give you a plausible chain of actions to take does not mean that its correctWhen I hear "heat maps", and it has nothing to do with infrared, I noticed its very likely to be total horse shit metrics. That seems to be one of those buzz words that gets you promoted to a non technical but supposedly technical position in corporate right now. Along with making startrek graphs on power bi

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 08:38:05 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on March 09, 2025, 02:04:04 pmThat's what the feedback loop is for.Quote from: coppercone2 on March 09, 2025, 02:04:04 pmAnd every link in that chain is an opportunity to make a sub-optimal decisions.Quote from: coppercone2 on March 09, 2025, 02:04:04 pmThis malaise is understandable. Almost all published research is a way to keep a political class afloat in exchange for funding and institutional jobs, meaning rarely is anything interesting because the incentive structure is no longer there.An analogy is the disaster that Leonard Susskind has become over time in physics. Some argue it's so absurd that it must be intentional to hold back progress in the field. The argument is so that military industrial complexes can stay ahead. String theory has been chasing its tail for 40 years.Academia seems littered with these examples of incompetence being indistinguishable from corruption. Anyway, Palantir is quite effective per customers.Back in the 2000s Microsoft got a little close to what Palantir is doing with BizTalk, they failed to fund the product properly: it had most of Palantir... a rules engine, data mapping, tracking, inspection. I even saw a preview of a version that was never released that looked remarkably like an ontology for unifying disparate data sources) BizTalk, then TIBCO had the early toolset to develop into what Palantir is. Palantir is 10x of what TIBCO can do, and I believe BizTalk has no current version, moving to the Logic Apps model. The predictive stuff is not the main purpose of the product. Its a way to map massive datasets.Ontology is donkeyspeak for a complex map

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 08:59:31 pm
content: Interesting points but I still think feedback for initially flawed reasoning is not solving a problemIn my opinion (which is based on what I see for project implementation), there is a massive over simplification of the understanding something like a project manager has of peoples roles. I think its why hiring to fill positions can be so difficult.I think it will always come back to the question if its doing the same thing a person is doing or if its guessing, like looking for a pattern in question answers on a exam. We tend to call that bullshitting and it can destroy a project once a person like that gets in and starts gaining trust. I just keep seeing this over and over again. Coaching etc never helps in that situation. To me that whole human in the loop thing feels like their trying to say it can be coached but really your just making sure it did not happen to hit the self destruct button when bit comes to stubborn people.And it comes down to the idea that there are roles without problem solving, which I think is BS. There is always some kind of problem that is solved to make things work better. The useful employees, even basic, end up having some minor role as a useful advisor too, one way feedback ends up blowing up

author: eugene
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2025, 07:26:22 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on February 28, 2025, 01:26:50 pmI assume that the difficulty you have accepting DEI is that you feel is means that less qualified individuals are hired in favor of more qualified individuals because of race, gender, whatever. Does that extend to political affiliation? Would you say that it's wrong to hire a less qualified person over a more qualified person because you don't agree with the political ideals of the more qualified?It seems to me that that is essentially what you're recommending here: choose software written by devs that share your ideals even if there is better software available that happens to have been developed by people with ideals that you don't agree with.Honestly, this entire subject sickens me. IF one doesn't want to support DEI, then don't. But don't cancel everyone you see that does support DEI. That's a hypocrisy worse than supporting DEI.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2025, 08:54:04 pm
content: Quote from: eugene on March 14, 2025, 07:26:22 pmExcept DEI turned into an excuse to privilege political activism over competence, then it shifted into anti-whites racism, so kindly fuck off with your nonsense. You don't know what you are talking.Your reasoning is disjointed. It assumes one doesn't like DEI hires because that is correlated with less competence at the workplace, then you conclude the non-woke are asking for devs with certain political bias. Then call that hypocrisy. No, DEI hires are based on politics, so guess who's the hypocrite.Just so you know, we've seen DEI-like hires before, here in Eastern Europe, Romania, when the communists came to power after WWII, and in the entire Russia because of the Bolshevics later communist movement. Competent people were marginalized, engineers were sent to dig trenches, or imprisoned, or sent to forced labor camps, or even executed.Meanwhile, the political activists installed themselves everywhere, in schools, factories, administration, police, etc., just like the DEI is trying now. Then the indoctrination and brainwashing went as never seen before.It didn't took long until the country became paralyzed by incompetence. The party activists and their nepotism hires couldn't do the work, so they start lying, reporting record quality products and record quantity, up to the absurd of reporting 10 times more grains than ever possible on the given area. The incompetent were covering themselves with lies. Incompetent hires because of "DEI" (back then it was called here "healthy origin") leaded to parasitism, and eventually collapsed some 50 years later. It wasn't good for the people, it wasn't good for the country, and it didn't end well.DEI is used in current times to raise internal tensions, and to demolish society from inside. DEI is masqueraded anti-white propaganda. Hire based on merit, and nobody will complain. And by the way, there are/were places were DEI brainwashing is not optional, so don't tell to just skip DEI if one doesn't like it.If it were to be skip-able nobody will make a fuss about DEI, but not only that it isn't skipable, it is slowly pushed into laws. What do you want, to let ourselves marginalized and discriminated by racist laws, in our own 90% white country, because we are white?

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2025, 09:31:28 pm
content: Quote from: RoGeorge on March 14, 2025, 08:54:04 pmExcuse me, but do you actually know what the fuck you're talking about?I ask this seriously, because for all the sturm und drang over DEI, all the hand-wringing, yelling and finger-pointing, I don't think we know how DEI is actually implemented at any particular organization.I know I don't. Do you?For one thing, it must vary across the spectrum: there's no one authority, no carved-in-stone template that tells companies, govt's, etc., how to implement this somewhat squishy policy.And as I've written here before, there would be ways to implement DEI that wouldnotresult in less-qualified candidates cutting in line ahead of more-qualified ones: it would only be used as a tie-breaking process where all candidates are equally qualified. But is it ever actually implemented this way? I'd guess probably not, but I don't know.I suggest that most of us should simply STFU on this topic unless we can demonstrate how DEI actually works in the real world. At this point it has become nothing more than a dog-whistle to people who are already predisposed to ignore any kinds of discrimination that actually do occur in the real world.I will say that if it turns out that DEI, as actually practiced, routinely hires or promotes unqualified people over qualified ones in the quest for equality, then it deserves to be condemned.

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2025, 09:55:21 pm
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on March 14, 2025, 09:31:28 pmI quit the corporate world when a lot of this got started about a decade ago, and before it was called DEI. Companies like Blackrock spread the activism to its investments, often by force. Harley Davidson is recent good example.One day I had a handful of hires that got stopped. I was pulled in a room and told there were new priorities and we needed to consider different characteristics in the hiring decisions... more than just merit... understand?That was the last straw. Before this, we kept losing W2s to contract hire because of H1b visas. It was enough so I left. Most people are scared to talk about how bad DEI is. It is so bad that nobody believes in any of your hires anymore so its a race to the bottom with morale. I was already resisting these H1b stuff, so the DEI stuff made it impossible to get a group to produce consistent results.As RoGeorge noted, this is indeed a system of political capture.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2025, 10:33:31 pm
content: Quote from: mapleLC on March 14, 2025, 09:55:21 pmExcept that Harley Davidson has dropped its DEI program, from what I've read.

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2025, 01:11:50 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on March 14, 2025, 10:33:31 pmIt was dropped when motorcycle buyers found out it was going on and rebelled. I pointed it out because it was an example of Blackrock imposing the policy and the company struggling as a result.It exposes how powerful Blackrock has become, and how convinced those very powerful executives were DEI was the right way to go.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2025, 01:21:50 am
content: maybe they should have gotten more people to do it a little instead of packing them all in one place like a publicity stuntit kinds of sounds like a few places got hit really hard and it malfunctioned (obviously)Given that companies eat people (and their souls) an analogy might be to have 1/4 slice of orange with your oat meal instead of eating 3lb of oranges for breakfast and then spewing acid everywhere, disintegrating forums and such.Ever try to rapidly change your dog's food?

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2025, 01:32:20 am
content: Quote from: mapleLC on March 15, 2025, 01:11:50 amWell, Blackrock has abandoned DEI as well ...

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2025, 01:34:36 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on March 15, 2025, 01:32:20 amI think everything super trendy and also involved with rich people dropped DEI because its not in style, that industry is pretty well geared for dealing with a particular political demographic..The big lie I found in their recent report is that they will avoid groupthink. A general finance company will make 0 dollars if they avoid groupthink . The only thinking making them money is that they can relate and think like a certain group (the one in charge) How will they know how to speak to a certain customer group if they avoid group think?? Usually a great way to get clients is because you can relate to them. Thats why they have such a centuries old reputation of being super duplicitous. It's like saying "oh, we decided that we are going to make our clients uncomfortable from now on."It sounds so fucking stupid when a organization (a group) is going to avoid groupthink. Perhaps its honest, they might not think and instead just guide you through a flow chart? I might believe a organization will avoid groupthink if its running out of a alien space ship without a marketing department lol, they better not have any large data sets either. You use large data sets in marketing to figure out how to guide your group think.I think the translation should read "Shit looks so mother fucking red, I think I am on mars, I don't see any blue shit! I am tryin to figure out how to work with all this red shit now!"

author: designerhans
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 15, 2025, 08:53:41 pm
content: Mozilla keeps making questionable decisions, whether it’s UX changes, privacy concerns, or removing add-ons for vague reasons.That said, Firefox is still the last major non-Chromium browser. If it disappears, we’re left with a Google-controlled web. Maybe a fork like LibreWolf is the way forward, but it’s tough to say.