Let's Build a Goddamn Tesla Museum - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Noize
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2012, 03:46:09 pm
content: Here's kickstarter type project to buy the land at Wardencliff and build a museum on it, if you are interested. They have already surpassed their goal of 800 odd thousand.I would visit it if I went to the USA.http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/let-s-build-a-goddamn-tesla-museum

author: LEECH666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2012, 04:57:24 pm
content: I think that Oatmeal comic author has lost all his marbles. I won't support this simply because I think that guy is an idiot.

author: poptones
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2012, 08:24:35 pm
content: Well that didn't last long...

author: ptricks
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2012, 08:32:31 pm
content: One already exist in the town of Tesla birthplace.What I would like more is educating of the public on who Tesla was and also how someone who may have a mental illness doesn't have to be looked upon as useless to society. Tesla was without a doubt OCD, he often wanted things done in specific numbers of 3 or 6, was completely scared of touching others for fear of becoming dirty and in the end became isolated because nobody was willing to try to understand him .Tesla had such an impact on the world and during my time in school in the 1980's I never heard his name mentioned even once, but they sure talked about that invention stealing Edison guy.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2012, 08:40:45 pm
content: Quote from: poptones on September 25, 2012, 08:24:35 pmIt is still there, just under a new URL. Maybe the "goddamn" in the URL was deemed politic incorrect.But the thing with Tesla is, he is mystified, not to say overrated, by a group of fanboys. Having lost all marbles is a requirement for a Tesla fanboy.

author: zaoka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2012, 09:50:59 pm
content: Tesla was aware of bacteria and what it can do thats why he did it. He was just ahead of time and thats why not understood by people.He was alone because its impossible to concentrate on projects while in public.Some people said that he was a disciple of Swami Vivekananda who once described him as the highest yogi he ever seen.

author: westfw
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2012, 09:55:22 pm
content: QuoteReally? Which "inventions" of Edison's did they talk about, beyond the lightbulb, phonograph, and motion pictures? And which inventions of Tesla had comparable popular impact? (AC Power transmission I'll grant you, but that isn't one of the "Inventions" commonly discussed.) Usually when these "battle of the inventor" things come up, I'm pretty shocked at just how few inventions get ANY educational coverage. Cotton gin, uses for peanuts, assembly line, telephone, lightbulb, phonograph, motion pictures, radium ... that's about it.PS: It occurs to me that we're not far away from a time when more people will have seen a Tesla coil than anything similar to a phonograph...

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2012, 04:22:28 am
content: Quote from: ptricks on September 25, 2012, 08:32:31 pmWhen I first studied Electronics in the late 1950s,there was very little mention of Tesla,maybe because a lot of the books I read were written by people who were contemporaries to both him & Edison,& knew what was real,& what was fantasy!

author: ptricks
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 29, 2012, 04:02:04 pm
content: Quote from: westfw on September 25, 2012, 09:55:22 pmTesla produced a bulb that was actually better than Edison and is used today, they are called arc lamps.Tesla invented radio transmission before Marconi and is now accepted as the inventor after it was found that Marconi used some of Tesla's work to do his work but didn't credit him for it. Tesla had a radio controlled boat several years before Marconi filed his patent. Tesla may have been the first person to do a x-ray photograph. Edison didn't invent much of anything , he was a profiteer, he actually worked slaughtering hogs at one point, that put good engineers under one roof, paid them poor salaries and then slapped his name on their work as his own.Tesla lost his main lab to a fire and it would not surprise me if Edison paid someone to do it, he was that kind of a man. I've studied both of them a lot as well as others like Maxwell and Kirchhoff and nobody in electronics was more of a jerk than Edison. Telsa downfall is that he never grasped the concept of you need money to do research and while it is good to give technology away you still need some profit to keep producing technology. If you look at the amount of money Tesla had compared to Edison , you can see why Edison is more widely known .If you haven't read his autobiography you really should . He talks about a lot of stuff not related to electricity but life in general.http://www.tfcbooks.com/special/my_inventions_index.htm

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2012, 03:39:07 am
content: Yeah,I read it--crazy as a loon!!By the way,Tesla didn't invent arc lamps,as you could have found out by exercising a little independent thought,instead of just swallowing the Tesla cult propaganda whole.The following may be of interest:-http://science.jrank.org/pages/473/Arc-Lamp.htmlhttp://www.unmuseum.org/lightbulb.htmhttp://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-335,786-electric-arc-lamp

author: LEECH666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2012, 03:47:28 am
content: About that bacteria thingie ... well my motto is immunization through exposition.I've played a lot in the dirt as a kid. No allergies ever. Or well I never got me tested, because I never suffered from any. Might just be coincidence or good genes.So I am not sure if it's wise to live totally sterile.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2012, 04:11:15 am
content: Quote from: LEECH666 on September 30, 2012, 03:47:28 amI played in the dirt as a kid too.It didn't do me a bit of good.Staying away from the stuff I was allergic to was a better idea!

author: poptones
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2012, 05:41:41 am
content: http://mypicturepalace.com/Ruby%201%2007%20Nicola%20Tesla.mp3

author: ptricks
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2012, 11:26:55 am
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on September 30, 2012, 03:39:07 amNot crazy at all, there is a lot of insight in things he talked about. I didn't say he invented arc lamps, I said he produced arc lamps , they were the design that was first used commercially.As I said , I have studied Tesla as well as others who contributed to electronics. I didn't gain my knowledge of these people by doing google searches, I spent the time to read their patents, reading their personal letters and speeches, and to try to understand their thought process in coming up with the ideas that they did. Tesla had a few crazy ideas but he was a lot more than some crazy engineer.

author: EEMarc
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2012, 12:53:15 pm
content: The saying that there is a thin line between genius and insanity is very much true. Tesla was right on that line being both insane and a genius. At the end of the day, he was just a person like anyone else.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2012, 01:29:02 pm
content: Quote from: ptricks on October 01, 2012, 11:26:55 amTesla was a great Engineer,hisimprovementof the polyphase AC power system was a great achievement,but with a lot of the other things,playing around with stuff & never making a practical device,doesn't make you the inventor of that device.The acceptance of Tesla as the inventor of Radio in the USA is more a matter of the politics of the time.It was "third time lucky" in the US courts,after all!After all,we all accept the Wright Brothers as having made the first practical aircraft,but they were mainly putting other people's ideas into practice.Lillienthal,Hargreaves,Langley,& Cayley could claim the use of their ideas,but as far as I know,they didn't.

author: Slobodan
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2012, 02:04:44 pm
content: Nikola Tesla museum in Belgrade, Serbia.http://www.tesla-museum.org/meni_en.htm

author: ptricks
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2012, 05:15:21 pm
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on October 01, 2012, 01:29:02 pmYou are right, not making a practical device doesn't make you the inventor of that device, practical is very difficult to define, which is why Tesla was credited more with the arc lamp than previous inventors. Before Tesla everybody hated to use arc lamps, they were noisy , making crackling and sparking noises and the rods burned out all the time and required changing. Had Tesla not produced his patent they would have remained unused for a much longer time. Have you even read the Tesla patent and compared it with the previous one ? They are worlds apart.QuoteThe difference in Tesla and Edison is that Edison seemed to take pleasure in ruining other people and doing anything it took to be successful. Electrocuting animals in public ? You have to be a jerk to do things like that. Read the patents ,Tesla gives credit whenever he uses someone else work. Edison doesn't give credit because he was a businessman and was afraid if he mentioned others, he would be sued. Several workers at the Edison labs commented about how Edison was very strict on them discussing anything work related outside the lab and when one worker mentioned to a friend in a bar about some of the work they were doing and how it was building on previous work by another inventor, Edison not only had the man fired, but had the man arrested for stealing from the company.Tesla learned about the dangers of x-ray and refused to do any more experimentation of them with people or animals. Edison learned of x-rays and even though he knew of Tesla's work and his saying they were dangerous continued to experiment with them involving the loss of one of his employees arm.There is story after story about how Edison had no care for humanity only the money it could bring him.QuoteWe were discussing Tesla and Edison, not sure who else you are talking about.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2012, 05:34:28 pm
content: Tesla didn't really contribute anything to the field of electronics. Braun did with the discovery of the Diode. Lee De Forest did with his Audion. So did Bardeen,Brattain and Shockley with the transistor. So did Holonyak and Losev with the LED.Tesla was an ELECTRICAL genius. not an ELECTRONICAL.