Help Ordering 2 Zamel Relays - Page 1
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author: smgvbest
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 02, 2015, 12:21:15 am
content: I have an Scopedome observatory controller and am in need of 2 ZAMEL Relays which aren't sold outside of poland I guessthe Part Number is PEM-01/110Is there anyone in Poland who could then for me and I'll pay all charges plus a little for the help?Zamel has i high order to ship worldwide. they would cost me like 200 US because of the minimum order.but someone local to bypass thatif anyone can help let me know?Sandra

author: Deathwish
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 02, 2015, 12:47:59 am
content: Sandra have you tried this lot .http://e-domus.com.pl/szukaj?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=PEM-01%2F110&submit_search=it states in their terms of sale. So abroad may mean the ship to you in the statesDeliveries of goods are carried out on Polish territory and abroad and held at the address specified by the Client. Goods at the time of supply is protected against damage in transit.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 02, 2015, 01:32:01 am
content: I don't get why you are so obsessed this zamel stuff. It's a standard DIN rail mounted relay, not even of highest quality. There are tons of compatible relays available from respectable manufacturers.

author: smgvbest
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 02, 2015, 01:50:06 am
content: Quote from: wraper on November 02, 2015, 01:32:01 amI wouldn't say a single post asking for help locating this relay constitutes being obsessed personallyas for why I am after this one it's because the device is designed specifically for themPoint me to another Din Rail Relay working on 110VAC on the coil and 16A @ 240VAC on the output.@DeathwishThanks, google translate won't do every page on that site but maybe I get through enough to place an order

author: xtech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2015, 08:33:42 am
content: I can help you if you don't find replacement for it locally.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 02, 2015, 10:49:01 am
content: Quote from: smgvbest on November 02, 2015, 01:50:06 am16A is more in the realm of removable relay in the holder (which zamel relay most likely is, just actual relay is hidden inside), like this:http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0a24/0900766b80a2433f.pdfProbably you could even disassemble it relatively easily and change the relay inside.High quality stuff:http://www.ops-ecat.schneider-electric.com/ecatalogue/browse.do?cat_id=BU_ED_7563_L3_Z057&conf=seo&el_typ=product&nod_id=0000000004&prd_id=A9C22415&scp_id=Z057Some cheap Chinese stuff:http://www.amazon.com/110-120V-Double-Electric-Power-Contactor/dp/B00TGOH6CG

author: smgvbest
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2015, 05:08:53 am
content: @wraper Thank you for the pointersfunctionally what you posted would work of course. physically they will not fit the enclosure.The zamel is a SPDT relay and is 90x17.5x66mm

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2015, 11:50:47 am
content: Quote from: smgvbest on November 03, 2015, 05:08:53 amActually except chinese one, they are exactly of this size.

author: smgvbest
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2015, 05:39:19 pm
content: That relay is close but not identical. the Zamel is 90x17.5x66 the one being pointing out is 81x18x60. The critical dimension is 17.5mmSo i should have posted this in the beginning but didn't expect this request to be questioned so.My requirement is for 2 SPDT relays, 120VAC Coil voltage, 120VAC @ 16AMP or greater contact voltage on a DIN 35 mount. the relay must not exceed 17.5mm in width in order to fit the existing enclosure. The dimension of the existing relay is 90x17.5x66 so that size or smaller is a must There is less that 0.004in (thickness of a piece of paper) between components in the enclosure which is why the dimensions are critical.Other than that. Zamel is the current Relay type PEM-01/110 would be idea as that's what in it now. but ZAMEL cost it to great due to minimum orders to ship outside of Poland.Alternative from US based suppliers meeting the requires are fine but I've had no luck finding a match personally.the closest match I could find through a distributor in the US and they have a minimum order of 10. I would prefer to not order 10I hope this clarifies what I am after both for the relay and cost wise.This is for personal use in my observatory not commercial use so cost is very much a factor as is physical fit in the enclosure.I hope that clarifies my need better

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2015, 05:45:49 pm
content: Quote from: smgvbest on November 03, 2015, 05:39:19 pmAre you serious? 0.5 mm difference is even within size tolerance you would actually get. I don't believe 0.5 mm is what will make it fit or not fit on the rail.

author: smgvbest
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 06, 2015, 07:16:00 pm
content: You can not even fit a piece of paper between parts here. I didn't design it, But I have to live with itI'm not going to purchase 2 >$50 relays I'm not sure of.I've gotten this resolved now so its now a moot point. the Zamels are on the way.Thank youQuote from: wraper on November 03, 2015, 05:45:49 pm