FAKE GALS: Lattice 16V6D - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / projects

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2021, 09:32:41 pm
content: Seems I got burnt again...My order of 50 GALs from China (from a supplier that produced real ones before) has yielded 100% fakes..Sigh

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 24, 2021, 09:34:10 pm
content: blacktopped, rub them with acetone.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2021, 09:34:16 pm
content: and the bottoms...

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2021, 09:48:37 pm
content: Well some nail polish remover... removed some black stuff... but didn't show anything interesting...

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2021, 06:16:39 pm
content: Did you buy from this seller?https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32968868037.htmlMight be worth posting the name if other people are looking for genuine ones.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2021, 06:22:05 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on March 25, 2021, 06:16:39 pmNope; it wasn't them.I'm not actually going to post the seller name as the previous batch I got from them was fine... looks like they have been sold dodgy stuff themselves... I'm working out a refund with them... we shall see...BTW... The ones that don't work have "Thailand" on the bottom... the ones previously supplied by the same seller that do work are "Phillipines"However... out of the last batch of 50.... 50 don't work.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2021, 01:20:24 pm
content: Got a full refund in the end. I guess that's another item that cannot be counted on from China anymore.

author: Miyuki
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2021, 09:20:51 am
content: You never can trust anything ordered from China. When you are at the place it is better. But you ever will be a foreigner.

author: Dubbie
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 31, 2021, 09:28:14 am
content: To be fair, that looks like the dogiest purchase ever. I don't know how you would ever expect them to be real in the first place.Why not buy from a reputable supplier instead of the online equivilent to a guy in an alleyway?

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2021, 10:50:30 am
content: Well that's probably fair.... and 16V8 devices are still in standard supply chains so it was purely a cost based gamble.However... i'm surprised that anyone would bother to go to the effort of faking these cheap devicesAs 5V devices become obsolete it becomes more difficult to source them.... there is a window of opportunity where they are still in the supply chain but there is relatively low demand and cheap deals are around... and then they become unobtainium and/or just faked.In the longer term.... any product needs to be based on current parts otherwise it is not manufacturable... time to move on from the 16V8 methinks.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 31, 2021, 11:12:40 am
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on March 31, 2021, 10:50:30 amReally? Even 5 cent ICs are widely counterfeited. Were you born last night?

author: Miyuki
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2021, 12:22:03 pm
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on March 31, 2021, 10:50:30 amI think there is still plenty of 5V tolerant today alternatives