Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2024, 12:48:52 am
content: digger posted this in the aixun thread, worth a separate thread to discuss:Quote from: digger on September 26, 2024, 03:52:28 amRetail price: $140Current aliexpress price: $185 (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807380897947.html)

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2024, 01:00:25 am
content: Its sad they keep chasing gimmicks: AI voice control, tap control, accelerometer, handle buttons, etc. When they haven't even been able to iterate and make a solid quality low cost station without bugs (<$150). But I guess features sell. Maybe you can argue accelerometer is a safety feature.The new tips are interesting: C250 (C475), C150 (C245), C080 (C210), C030 (C115). Allows you to swap various tip sizes without swapping the handle as well.Video shows them being used in a T225 handle, not clear if they would fit in a T245 handle as well. Also not clear if they are 24V heater cores, or if they vary 12V/24V, and the station would detect them.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2024, 01:36:17 pm
content: I think having separate threads for the T320 and T413 is a bad idea. The price of the T413 seems to mean its a replacement for the T320, and the two clearly have much in common. A separate thread just seems to fragment things. Just add T413 to the name of the other thread.

author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2024, 06:18:49 pm
content: Seems like the T225 handle is not widely available yet, most sellers including T245 and T225 support is mentioned as "through a future firmware update".

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2024, 09:12:53 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on September 27, 2024, 01:36:17 pmCan just discuss the new tips and handles here if you want.The problem with aixun is there could be some major issue in T413, or something fixed, and who knows if it will apply to T320 or not. Will T320 support T225 handle?Quote from: nidlaX on September 27, 2024, 06:18:49 pmYeah I don't see any sellers. Blog post here:https://www.aixuntech.com/newsinfo/aixun-t225-selfdeveloped-full-power-wirecontrolled-handle-is-coming/Can't tell if the handle is using cheap blue plastic or proper rubber.Though even the real one is hard rubber right?

author: digger
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2024, 03:26:19 am
content: anyone thinking of getting one? seems like a half baked launch with the 225 platform not even ready yet.i'm curious if it has the gnd issue like every other aixun station except the T420D.Quote from: coppice on September 27, 2024, 01:36:17 pmthat's funny. i think separate threads is better.

author: digger
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2024, 04:45:41 am
content: Quote from: marck120 on October 17, 2024, 04:03:21 amnot working with genuine carts is a significant and unwelcome departure

author: marck120
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2024, 09:46:35 am
content: Quote from: digger on October 17, 2024, 04:45:41 amYes, the fact that it is not compatible with the original JBC handles is something I don't like either.This is the original comment from the user who replied to me was this :it is not good so far. The original JBC cartridges are not able to start the station unless I manually heat them before turning on the station. Then the resistance becomes high enough for the station to recognize and start the trunk and handle. Once started, it works really well... it is however very frustrating, and Aixun is not very open to promising a firmware to help this problem...A post on the AiXun Tech page lists the bugs they have fixed :2024.10.12 T413 Soldering Station V1.02 Released]1.Optimized temperature control2.Fixed problems related with standby3.Fixed some known issues

author: Frtech
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 25, 2024, 11:42:38 am
content: There is a customer review with some picture onthis Aliexpress shop:The price onAiXun Official Storeis just crazy high! For UE, it's 270€ + 290€ for shipping fees. There are less and less vendors on Ali and the price is growing. It's as if very few units have been produced so far.Furthermore, the transformer makes the device much heavier, and shipping costs are considerably higher than for the T320.EDIT: I don't know why pictures are so big and not rendered as expandable thumbnail as chosen in the text editor. If someone knows how to correct this...

author: Electro Fan
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2024, 10:19:57 am
content: Any more updates on T413 status regarding availability, price, and especially regarding compatibility with genuine JBC 245 handle/connector/pins? If Aixun manages to deliver the T413 with solid reliability plus real JBC 245 compatibility plus the other features they are claiming with a decent price they would have a very attractive product.Video and the comments after the video are interesting:https://youtu.be/GyH_xFxPApI?feature=shared

author: Sheldor
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 12, 2024, 11:50:32 am
content: Hi, does anyone know if the T413 has any issue with voltage leaks? I wanted to get the T420 but they told me the single handle version is discontinued.EDIT: they told me it doesn't.Regarding the question above, Aixun confirmed it's not compatible with JBC cartridges, though it shouldn't be a problem for me since I should be fine with Aixun tips (I'd be curious to see a side by side comparison between JBC and Aixun tips).Thanks!

author: Smoerrebroed
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 24, 2025, 08:25:15 pm
content: Having received my T413 today, I could not detect any voltage leak or runaway heating as observed with the T320. However, my unit came with firmware 1.03, so after routinely hooking it up to my laptop, the Aixun software told me to upgrade to 1.04. So I did and - guess what - the solder station stopped functioning.To be more precise, with the 1.04 firmware it will no longer heat up. This is reproducible even after resetting to factory defaults and also going back to 1.03 and upgrading anew.The release notes for 1.04 state that the new T225 handle is supported - which I don't have. Could it be that 1.04 willonlyfunction in combination with said T225 handle? The T245 that came with it - with the 7 pin connector - does not work while there are no issues whatsoever with 1.03.Now that I write this post ... I only used genuine JBC tips for testing. But surely that can't be the root cause of this issue?

author: Sheldor
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 24, 2025, 11:18:35 pm
content: Quote from: Smoerrebroed on March 24, 2025, 08:25:15 pmThey told me genuine JBC tips are not compatible, are they? Have you tested if the temperature matches the screen etc.? Maybe try Aixun tips and see if those work.By the way, I can't check what firmware I'm on right now but I have no issues with Aixun tips, I will check it asap.

author: Clyde
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2025, 08:50:13 pm
content: Quote from: Smoerrebroed on March 24, 2025, 08:25:15 pmIn a T320, there's an isolated SMPS, so obviously, the only voltage you can measure between the tip and main earthing is a TC control circuit voltage leak (a few mV), which is referenced to the main's ground (with a non-isolated TC control supply).On a photo of the T413 transformer, I can't see the main earth wire coming from the winding, so I suppose there's no main earth shielding between the primary and secondary winding. This means it could be a more significant coupling voltage leak than T320 has.Anyway, I didn't see any professional solderers working on grounded PCBs (with grounded hand bracelet only).The issue with T225 handles/tips is not about their resistance. It's probably related to the TC type/profile used.I recently sold my T320 (which works well with T245 and T210 handles/tips), not because it was a bad soldering station. I did that because Aixun sucks.

author: Smoerrebroed
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 25, 2025, 10:03:36 pm
content: Thank you for your valuable opinion!I had a chat with the Aixun support today and they quickly confirmed that they can reproduce my issue. A few minutes later they released a fixed FW version 1.05 which I installed and now things are working as expected. I have to say I'm impressed with the speed they demonstrated in fixing my issue.FWIW: I tried both genuine JBC (of which I own quite a few) as well as Aixun C245 tips. Neither work with the 1.04 FW in a T245 handpiece, but all show no strange behavior running on 1.05 FW. So it looks like genuine tips are supported as well as Aixun tips.

author: Sheldor
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 25, 2025, 10:06:50 pm
content: So... do JBC tips work with the T413? I wonder why they say they don't.

author: Corte
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 26, 2025, 02:04:06 am
content: JBC tips supported on T413 soldering station with T245 handle.But this soldering station also supports aixuns new T225 smart soldering handle and JBC tips not supported with this handle.Basically if you use T245 handle, you can use JBC C245 tips..T225 smart handle sucks anyway, they don't have many different kind of tips for it and the ones they have at the moment not good enough for all applications and tip quality not good either..Don't ask how I know 🤦🏾

author: Sheldor
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 26, 2025, 10:49:24 am
content: Quote from: Corte on March 26, 2025, 02:04:06 amThey told me they are not supported so I thought it applied to all handles.Do you guys notice a big difference when using JBC tips? Makes it easier to solder or what?I'm not a pro and never tried JBC, but I may get one of their tips and give it a try.

author: Corte
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 26, 2025, 02:34:52 pm
content: I think they send T413 with T225 smart handle just now and thats why probably they told you it doesnt support and they probably meant smart handle dowsnt support it. But as i said you can use jbc tips with t245 handle.There is night and day difference between especially between crappy T225 smart handle tips to JBC tips.SDG electronics just released a review about it. You can watch it.https://youtu.be/6KQCKkRXUck?si=7MjeUXsr872g0sxS

author: Smoerrebroed
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 26, 2025, 07:23:56 pm
content: I've been using C245 (genuine JBC) tips for the last 10 years or so and have never desired anything else, so I stuck with them when I moved to Aixun. Plus you get way more different tip shapes to choose from.

author: Sheldor
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 12:08:48 am
content: Actually I asked them a few months back, before they shipped it with the T225 handle. They told me it is compatible with all the Aixun tips (the entire range obviously, not just those sold with the iron) but not JBC. I'm probably going to buy a JBC cartridge just to see if I notice any difference but I'm concerned it could be an overkill for the type of work I do. I didn't really have any major issue with the Aixun one, so far

author: mb-3000
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 30, 2025, 11:29:45 pm
content: So is the TLDR; on this model, its much better than the T320?The T320's are a bit cheaper on Ali right now and would seem like a bargain but I have read varying reports on here they have voltage issues that could damage SMD in some cases. Is this across the board or has that been an issue on certain models people have received?I'm using a Geeboon TC20A and its fine right now, although its been acting a bit funny temp wise the last few days so wondering if a jump up to this Aixun model or its predecessor the T320 would be better or just going sideways in terms of features. I'm using the 245 handle and JBC tips which overall are far better than the Ali variants it came with.

author: mb-3000
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 31, 2025, 03:13:27 am
content: I see SDG did a review on it.Wasn't a super great overall experience...https://youtu.be/6KQCKkRXUck?si=XcIV_pY1gpmXnFJFTLDR; the Firmware seems a bit flaky still and the new handle has problems keeping temp. Maybe the new firmware will fix it but I don't want to be a guinea pig after spending a couple hundred AUD for one.