Fox News: US Solar Energy Investment Less Than Germany Because US Has Less Sun - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2013, 04:21:36 pm
content: Apparently those wise folks at Fox have figured out America's reluctance to invest as much money in solar energy as Germany — the Germans simply have more sun!http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/02/07/fox_news_expert_on_solar_energy_germany_gets_a_lot_more_sun_than_we_do_video.html

author: lewis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2013, 05:51:23 pm
content: What's the EROEI on a solar panel?

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2013, 06:06:29 pm
content: We got only a service desert :-)

author: SLJ
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2013, 06:51:59 pm
content: Many of us here in the U.S. think Fox News is a joke anyway as their reporting is biased and usually not based on facts. It's examples like this that prove the point.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2013, 07:20:37 pm
content: Quote from: SLJ on February 08, 2013, 06:51:59 pmAnd the other half or so trusts it the most.http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/02/poll_fox_news_is_the_most_trus.html

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2013, 07:51:45 pm
content: Oh, that's just sad.

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 05:40:30 am
content: Greetings EEVBees:--CNN anchor asks if asteroid close encounter is caused by Global Warming. See below links.--CNN anchor Deborah Feyerick asks Bill Nye; “Talk about something else that’s falling from the sky and that is an asteroid. What’s coming our way? Is this an effect of, perhaps, of global warming, or is this just some meteoric occasion?”--What is God's name is a meteoric occasion?--Bill Nye The Science Guy (The Global Warming Guy), a Mechanical Engineer often seen wearing a lab coat to dupe people into thinking he is a scientist, then tries to save her bacon.“No, no, no, no,” Nye replied to the spaced-out question, before gracefully extending Feyerick a lifeline by saying “except it’s all science. The word meteorology and the word meteor come from the same root, so, uhh…”"I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii I was not allowed to go to."Barack Obama 1961 -Best RegardsClear Ether

author: smashedProton
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 05:51:07 am
content: "Fox is usually biased and usually not based on facts"Just like every news program in existence.... Come on nowEver since marijuana was made legal in my state, NPR went from national public radio to a how to radio on baking with marijuana as a secret ingredient.Some days I just feel disappointed with what I see around me.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 07:27:59 am
content: Media is just like politics, they have some "level" of influence to people, thats why they are prime target to politicians and industrial complexes alike.otoh OT, i just watched that O&G plastic surgery going boom in the country "down under" due to the influence of the X media showing clean "part" alas photoshopped (not real) due to the country's regulation. everybody is like to cutting their lab-minora and putting silicon chip under the areola, go figure. Media try to define what is real and whats not and everybody is going to believe that, phoolery stuffs.

author: MrPlacid
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 09:15:03 am
content: What is funnier is when CNN gets Sarah Palin or Herman Cain's opinions.Quote from: Mechatrommer on February 12, 2013, 07:27:59 amThe media is nothing more than an outlet for political parties and financial institutions. They either get your vote or your money.

author: SLJ
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 12:04:13 pm
content: Their all slanted and biased. Watching the news to get the truth is like crossing a creek on slippery rocks. I have to admit though Fox seems to make an awful lot of stupid comments on a regular basis.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 01:26:22 pm
content: Quote from: SLJ on February 12, 2013, 12:04:13 pmthere are though, "News for the Truth" but they usually not in mainstream channels, distributed underground, source income from their own or some "enthusiasts". One of their objective is to unravel "The Untruthness". they usually labelled as "left wing", "rebels" or "terrorists". how to get access to this kind of "News" is... "you need to find the truth yourself".

author: PaulAm
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 03:58:19 pm
content: Stuff like that only gets traction because of the pitiful state of education. There was an article in our local newspaper that said only 15% of students in a statewide test had acceptable scores in science. Some school districts has 0 students acceptable in 5th and 8th grade science.Pitiful indeed.

author: os40la
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 05:24:19 pm
content: Fox, Please explain to me why I have no electric bill.I live in Pennsylvania not sunny Florida. Fox should stop over and watch my electric meter..

author: MrPlacid
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 05:43:11 pm
content: PaulAm,Nope, not an educational problem. The media has become a propaganda machine. Remember the Zimmerman case? The media took sides after a shooting since it was an election year for our prez. Go read the Zimmerman sueing NBC news.Don't get me started on financial news. That is another outlet for investment companies to pump or dump a stock, so they, the financial companies, can make money.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2013, 07:07:48 pm
content: Quote from: os40la on February 12, 2013, 05:24:19 pmDon't confuses them with facts. Their little peanut brains might explode.

author: DavidGoncalv
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2013, 01:00:28 am
content: Even us here in Massachusetts in a ranch are laughing all the way to the bank!

author: etstudent
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2013, 02:21:32 am
content: Well I don't want to get into this hornets nest, but I will say this. I will have to fend off fervent viewers of this channel that I know, that will swear this is the truth. I know a few people that will try and convince me of this in the coming days.

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 19, 2013, 09:35:11 am
content: Greetings EEVBees:--I watch almost no TV anymore, finding it to be very thin soup indeed. I do watch the occasional video clip on the Web, and am familiar with the News content of the Major Networks, the entertainment shows being for the greatest part un-watchable. The Fox News "Financial Correspondent" that made the ridiculous statement about Germany having more sun that the US, has acknowledged its inaccuracy. As for the CNN Anchor who asked Bill Nye, the Global Warming Guy about AGW causing "meteoric occasions", no word of any correction has yet surfaced, so as far as we know this is still a very real possibility in her mind. The Fox Show "Fox and Friends" is a "Morning" show. I remember Mainstream Networks Morning shows where; It was alleged that thousands of farm animals near Three Mile Island had died, that the entire Washington State Apple Crop was deadly poisonous, and that by 2010 20 Million American Heterosexuals would be dead of Aids. Does anybody remember those?--What really torks the Left off about Fox, are not the occasional inaccuracies (which they love), but the frequent accuracies. See below a list of stories where the Big Three and CNN were caught deliberately trying to deceive their viewers.--CBS George Bush Deserter Story: Proven to be a fraud and retracted, Mary Mapes and Dan Rather fired.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy--CNN Time Magazine US Army Used Nerve Gas In Vietnam: Story is retracted and April Oliver and Jack Smith, were fired.http://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/03/us/cnn-retracts-report-that-us-used-nerve-gas.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm--NBC Ford Truck Explosions Story: NBC apologizes for planting rocket motors, and settles lawsuit.http://www.nytimes.com/1993/02/10/us/nbc-settles-truck-crash-lawsuit-saying-test-was-inappropriate.html--ABC Colorado Shooter was a Tea Party Member Story: Retractedhttp://washingtonexaminer.com/a-short-incomplete-history-of-media-tying-the-tea-party-to-tragedies/article/2502712--MSNBC George Zimmerman had no injuries Story: Proven false by none other than Liberal Blog HuffingtonPosthttp://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/46896424/#46896424http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/03/george-zimmerman-bloody-face-photo_n_2234551.html--CBS Martin's Body showed no signs of a fight Story: Refuted by Autopsyhttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57406725/martin-funeral-director-no-signs-of-fight-on-body/http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/autopsy-results-show-trayvon-martin-had-injuries-h/nN6gs/--Yahoo News Fox Viewers have low intelligence story, which was widely reported everywhere in the Liberal Blogosphere: Disappeared from Web. HuffingtonPost details fraud.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-giltz/exclusive-pr-guru-behind_b_2268959.html--Funny, all of these Mainstream Media stories, seem to cut only one way politically.--Fox News, though thin soup like the others, does make an effort to present both sides of the politics, having 12 Liberal Contributors, including, Bob Beckel, Marla Liason, Juan Williams and many others the latest of which is Sally Kohn.http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fox-news-newest-contributor-liberal-activist-sally-kohn-they-want-a-good-fight-on-the-issues_b111322--So if you are of a Liberal bent, and you want your news the way you want it, without regard to truth, just watch one of the Big Three, only one is necessary as all three are almost always in accord, and if you want to see if they just might have it wrong on a given point, try investigating on the Web. Or if it must be the couch and TV, then check Fox News for inconvenient truths, and then check the sources on those. Do not trust, verify."Don't believe a word I say. Check! Do not trust the opinions of Scientists. Trust the data."Christopher Monckton 1952 -Best RegardsClear Ether

author: r90s
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2013, 10:23:05 am
content: I know exactly what you mean. I don't own a TV and do not want one.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2013, 11:39:21 am
content: Quote from: r90s on February 19, 2013, 10:23:05 amNor I.These days I find it excruciatingly uncomfortable to be in a room with commercial TV playing. The Dumbness per Second is just too high to bear.Comparing Corporate Nonsense News vs Faux News is pointless too. Just different heads on the same Hydra.Sadly, it appears most here assume stupidity such as the "more sunlight in Germany" comment is just accidental. It is not. It's a widespread, deliberate program of confusion and disinformation, intended to produce a public incapable of thinking rationally about anything, and thus, unable to act cohesively."We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."-- William Casey, Director of Central Intelligence. An observation by the late Director at his first staff meeting in 1981."Advertising is legalized lying."-- H. G. Wells"A democracy which makes or even effectively prepares for modern, scientific war must necessarily cease to be democratic. No country can be really well prepared for modern war unless it is governed by a tyrant, at the head of a highly trained and perfectly obedient bureaucracy."-- Aldous Huxley"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society."-- Edward Bernays"Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play."-- Joseph Goebbels"All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume."-- Noam Chomsky"Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise."-- Adolf Hitlerhttp://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2010/10/who-owns-media-6-monolithic.htmlMonday, October 4, 2010Who Owns The Media? The 6 Monolithic Corporations That Control Almost Everything We Watch, Hear And Readhttp://saladin-avoiceinthewilderness.blogspot.com/2011/02/public-enemy-no-1-main-stream-media.htmlPublic Enemy No. 1 The Main Stream Media"The media is the enemy!" This is the title of the introductory narrative of American Free Press.net. AFP offers: "In the old Soviet Union, the government controlled the media. Not a word of substance could be published without prior approval from the Bolshevik commissars. Today, in the United States, the situation is starkly similar. But most Americans don't even know it.In the United States today, it is a select handful of super-rich families and tightly-knit financial interests-a plutocratic elite-who own the Big Media and who control the government through their ownership of that media. . . . Every single one of the major media outlets is controlled by this powerful interlocking combine."Book: Manufacturing Consent, by Noam Chomsky.http://everist.org/archives/links/!_MSM_control_links.txthttp://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.htmlPropaganda (1928) (Includes text of the book, supposedly. But is it true?)by Edward Bernays(review by Chomsky) American business community was also very impressed with the propaganda effort. They had a problem at that time. The country was becoming formally more democratic. A lot more people were able to vote and that sort of thing. The country was becoming wealthier and more people could participate and a lot of new immigrants were coming in, and so on.So what do you do? It's going to be harder to run things as a private club. Therefore, obviously, you have to control what people think. There had been public relation specialists but there was never a public relations industry. There was a guy hired to make Rockefeller's image look prettier and that sort of thing. But this huge public relations industry, which is a U.S. invention and a monstrous industry, came out of the first World War. The leading figures were people in the Creel Commission. In fact, the main one, Edward Bernays, comes right out of the Creel Commission. He has a book that came out right afterwards called Propaganda. The term "propaganda," incidentally, did not have negative connotations in those days. It was during the second World War that the term became taboo because it was connected with Germany, and all those bad things. But in this period, the term propaganda just meant information or something like that. So he wrote a book called Propaganda around 1925, and it starts off by saying he is applying the lessons of the first World War. The propaganda system of the first World War and this commission that he was part of showed, he says, it is possible to "regiment the public mind every bit as much as an army regiments their bodies." These new techniques of regimentation of minds, he said, had to be used by the intelligent minorities in order to make sure that the slobs stay on the right course. We can do it now because we have these new techniques.This is the main manual of the public relations industry. Bernays is kind of the guru. He was an authentic Roosevelt/Kennedy liberal. He also engineered the public relations effort behind the U.S.-backed coup which overthrew the democratic government of Guatemala.His major coup, the one that really propelled him into fame in the late 1920s, was getting women to smoke. Women didn't smoke in those days and he ran huge campaigns for Chesterfield. You know all the techniques—models and movie stars with cigarettes coming out of their mouths and that kind of thing. He got enormous praise for that. So he became a leading figure of the industry, and his book was the real manual.-- Noam Chomsky(From Chomsky's "What Makes Mainstream Media Mainstream": a talk at Z Media Institute, June 1997)This post purely for informational purposes, for anyone interested. I will not debate these issues here.

author: SLJ
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2013, 12:28:17 pm
content: I find TV to be a huge waste of time. I can listen to the radio or music and still be working on the bench. If I sit down in front of the TV I've usually wasted an hour or two of my life.About the only show I watch without fail is The Walking Dead.