LeCroy X-Stream Software archive? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: robert_
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2017, 05:24:12 pm
content: Is there any archive of previous Xstream FW versions? Lecroy doesnt seem to have anything but the current one.I would be interested in any version >7.9.0.1 and < 8.4.1.4 to see which is the last one without a certain "feature".

author: ollopa
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2017, 06:22:52 am
content: It's kind of odd that they don't have archives. Most in this industry do so you can trade around various known bugs for whatever has the least impact on your work.I'm sure various people would be able to locate the xstreamdsoinstaller_x_x_x_x.exe files on their PCs so maybe we could start our own archive. You can still download the 32-bit 8.1.0.1 installer from LeCroy's website. I have a couple older versions too.If you set up a cloud storage account somewhere I'd be glad to upload mine and maybe others will follow suit and you'll eventually get what you need.

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2017, 01:07:44 pm
content: Quote from: ollopa on July 27, 2017, 06:22:52 amThey do have archives. Not just publicly available. But support will send you any older version if you really want it.QuoteWhy would you want to use an older release? New variants contain bug fixes and improvements in functionality, as well as new options that just don't exist in older releases, plus they bring compatibility with new probes.Also, I'm not aware of any showstopper bugs that have been introduced in a new X-Stream release. And if you think you found one then you'd probably want to contact LeCroy support to let them know, which then would certainly send you the previous release for you to use until the bug is fixed (which might be within several days, depending on how serious the bug is). Also, if the bug is serious, they would very liukely just pull the current release from their webpage and put the previous one up until a fixed version becomes available.Which means the lack of a public archive is somewhat understandable.

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2017, 02:18:12 pm
content: Quote from: robert_ on June 21, 2017, 05:24:12 pmIf this is for hacking the license options, just a word of warning: LeCroy is *very* sensitive to any attempts to hack their option codes, and if they get wind of it then they're pretty quick to send out their lawyers, as some members here have already found out. Don't expect them to turn a blind eye to personal hacking like Keysight does.Also, even if you manage to hack the key system and enable some options, they can still detect if these options are legit or not should your scope ever have to go to LeCroy for repari or calibration, as they have a database with scope serials and options enabled for that serial.

author: robert_
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2017, 04:23:24 pm
content: The "Feature" i really dont like is their GUI change. It should be possible to go back to the "old" style, or let you chose which "improvements" you want to see.As for hacking the options, i dont know if its possible, nor will i try to do anything about it.

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2017, 05:26:09 pm
content: Quote from: robert_ on July 27, 2017, 04:23:24 pmWith "old" I assume you mean the blue UI compared to the "new" one which uses charcoal? The new GUI is a software option that is factory installed for all X-Stream2 scopes (blue represents X-Stream1 scopes).If this is what you mean then I'd recommend to be careful, some newer options might no longer have all the control elements if you manage to switch back to the old style (which means you'd have to remove the New GUI option key). I've seen this when I had the chance to play with an development scope. Some of the new options (i.e. SDA3) were barely usable with the old UI.

author: robert_
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2017, 05:42:51 pm
content: No, my scope is far to new to ever have seen the blue-violet-puke colour UI.I just really dont like their one-touch whatever, with for example the annotated grid (which isnt really good if you have to edit it out of screenshots before you can publish those, as it looks crappy).Still, i think an archive is always a good idea to have. There can easily be some kind of incompatibility or whatever, especially on older, unsupported systems it can be of great help to see if there is any version that works when the latest one has some well hidden bug. Especially on a system that can be easily up/downgraded and even allows for switching between several sw versions (using a boot manager and several windows installations) as needed.We had this kind of problems with other instruments already, FW update leading to a nearly unuseable instrument and "were working on it, can take a few weeks for new release". Good when you have an old version to go back to, bad when its 2 years old and lacks features you need.Even worse on most embedded system based machines, with no downgrade ability. Just looking at tektronix here... (old)DPO2k fw update to last version breaks fan control (100% on now), often saves broken files when on max. memory and often fails to trigger. Worked fine on last version before (except for display glitches, which is why we upgraded). Cant downgrade, instrument is basically junk and was sold off.

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2017, 07:22:07 am
content: Quote from: robert_ on July 27, 2017, 05:42:51 pmSo what model are we talking about? Or is this a secret?QuoteThe only UI change besides the "old" (blue)/"new" (charcoal) transition 10 years ago was the introduction of "OneTouch" gesture controls with the WaveRunner 8000, so I guess that's what you're getting at. As with the New GUI, OneTouch is a factory-installed SW option which in theory could be removed and would give you the New GUI without the gesture controls. But if you manage to remove the OneTouch key from the scope (which isn't user-accessible) then next time your scope has to go to LeCroy for calibration/repair they'll know you fiddled with the key system and immediately void your warranty and block the scope serial from ever being worked on by them, even if paid for.Also, the various UIs aren't universally supported, which means switching back to non-gesture UI on a scope that came with OneTouch might get you unworkable options.As to annotations, these can be switched off by a press of a button so if you don't want them on screenshots why just don't you switch them off (or take the screenshot before annotating the screen)?QuoteSo how do you know the latest version has a bug if it is well hidden? And if there's a bug you actually experience, why wouldn't you just report it so it can get fixed (which they will do even if it only affects older scopes), in which case LeCroy would give you the necessary software to avoid that bug until it is fixed?QuoteWhich somehow defeats the purpose of a test instrument if you have to use multi-boot to work around bugs. If I were to see one of my engineers spending time on such nonsense instead of just reporting it to the manufacturer and getting it fixed once and for all then he'd be in hot water.QuoteThat sounds like something I'd expect from Rigol or Siglent but not from a reputable A-brand like LeCroy or Keysight.QuoteYeah, well, that's Tek. There's a reason they're pretty much at the bottom-end of all A-brands, and have been for a very long time (their decline started when analog scopes were no longer a thing). That also includes support.

author: wldshy
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2018, 03:39:18 am
content: is there anyone can share a cope of xstreamdsoinstaller_7.9.x.x?

author: robert_
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 02, 2018, 03:48:50 pm
content: Ive got 7.9.0.1 64bit here.If you give mne some ftp to upload it to...

author: gnusmas
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 20, 2019, 04:22:27 pm
content: Would you share me, please, by software xstreamdsoinstaller64_7.9.x.x?Thank you in advance!