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How to set up a RNDIS connection:  E30bx to Windows 10 laptop? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: cvanc
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2018, 01:29:51 pm
content: Hi all-Been traveling and away from my E30bx upgrade for a few days. I've done quite a bit of reading but am still 'stuck at the beginning' on how to get my camera to talk to my laptop using RNDIS. Please let me start with one question and we can move on from there:It's a Win 10 laptop and I have read conflicting (or at least confusing) comments regarding whether RNDIS can even be done. Is it simply no longer possible with Win 10? Do I need to use an older PC with Win 7 or something?I've looked all over my device manager settings and do not find anything at all labeled RNDIS...Thanks.

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2018, 02:40:37 pm
content: Is the camera in RNDIS mode?If so, it should show up as a network adapter.

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2018, 03:07:03 pm
content: You may have to download a diff RNDIS driver.Hit the "start/windows" key....type "RNDIS".....hit "enter"...you should be able to go from there. Scan anything with your "AV" before you install it.

author: cvanc
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2018, 11:01:52 pm
content: Let me show you the messages I get when I try to connect. It appears I am close but not quite there yet?First, I've got a booted Win10 laptop and a booted E30bx - they are not connected to each other yetThen, I set the camera to RNDIS mode using the hidden menuFinally, I connect the USB cable and get the following messages in sequence.

author: cvanc
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2018, 11:03:27 pm
content: ...After all those messages, here is what I see in Device Manager.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2018, 11:24:46 pm
content: What do you need RNDIS for?

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2018, 11:46:16 am
content: You need to update the driver buddy. Should just be a case of clicking a few "ok"s as it takes you through the process.

author: cvanc
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2018, 03:49:42 pm
content: Well, it seems I needed to upgradesomething, but it appears it was the camera that did the trick.RNDIS is working now; see attached screen grab from FileZilla showing the directory structure of the camera on the right side. I did not change anything on my PC but I did upgrade the camera from 1.36 to 2.23 (files courtesy of Fraser, thank you sir).And now the connection works fine (shrugs). Thank you all for the input and assistance.
FLIR ONE PRO vs Seek CompactPro vs TE-Q1 for DIY house inspection? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Sublett
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 20, 2018, 06:00:45 pm
content: Hi!Feels like I've spent a few days trying to figure out which thermal camera to get out of these three:FLIR ONE PRO, Seek CompactPro and Thermal Expert Q1, for the purpose of a DIY house inspection.Learned a lot about the importance of the sensor resolution, emissivity and NETD.Reading around the forum, it seems like the TE-Q1 is the clear favorite out of the three, with the most bang-for-buck. However, does that still apply for house inspection?Feels like it leans more towards PCB work (with f1 lens e.t.c.), how is it with wider, room-sized objects?Got a Samsung Galaxy S8 (usb-c) and my wifes Samsung Galaxy S7 (micro-usb).And yes, I realise that the hard part is actually interpreting the information and utilizing that information correctly when doing a house inspection.But which tool would aid me the most to get a good start? All three is within my budget.

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2018, 06:41:03 pm
content: The TE-Q1 is the best option overall, really.I would recommend finding a used E4 and upgrading it though - you can find them for about as much as you'd be able to import a TE-Q1 for(~$700).

author: Micz
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2018, 04:43:52 pm
content: I am using seek compact pro and images are noisy, it is really hard to get nice picture. There are also bugs with temperature display. I think it is caused by bugged software (I am using android, need to check on iphone). Flir one has its own battery which is no long life. If I go back and have a choice now I will spend extra 250 dollars for Q1... but now I am thinking about Flir E4/E8

author: tonykids
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2018, 08:05:29 am
content: I think TE-Q1 is the best choiceIt has the highest solution\low noise and you can change lens easily
new Flir One G3 / Flir One Pro and current Flir SDK - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2017, 02:07:25 pm
content: Flir has not released an update for the SDK to support the new Flir One G3.Are there any users in this forum, who bought the new Flir One G3 camera?I am interested in whether the camera works also with the old SDK.Thanks

author: marshallh
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2017, 11:21:48 pm
content: I have one and none of the apps designed for the Gen2 work with it, despite being the same resolution.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2017, 03:42:49 pm
content: Sadly this is FLIR marketing department at work again.The new business plan for the Gen 3 cameras involves setting capabilities via software so the Pro is more capable than the standard model. The fact that the standard model is running a low resolution Lepton 2 should have been enough, but the marketing bods want to encourage people to 'upgrade' from the Gen 2 to the Gen3 Pro in order to gain more capable software (it will be further developed over time).The FLIR ONE G2 was the 'bargain basement' FLIR response to the thermal imaging dongle market. They are now employing pretty standard marketing tactics with the Gen 3.Fraser

author: Uho
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2017, 05:34:38 am
content: Flir One G3 shit. The image is worse. The frame rate is very low. It looks like 2 Hertz. I tested the Flir One G3 yesterday. I was very upset.

author: Uho
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2017, 07:16:56 am
content: Quote from: marshallh on September 05, 2017, 11:21:48 pmProgram Thermal Camera + works.

author: All Seeing Eye
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2017, 03:20:11 pm
content: Yes,FLIR ONE G3 is lousy.

author: wakawakawaka
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 21, 2018, 11:02:00 pm
content: I can attest to the lousyness of the flir one g3 (for Android). I got to try one about a month ago on a Pixel XL, but wow. The lagginess of the app, the extremely low fps, plus buggy software in general put me off. I'm glad I didn't waste any money on it. I was extremely disappointed as I was excited seeing this come out with the specs I saw.
Bad experience with FLIR one gen 2 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fordoldfart
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 05:13:24 am
content: Ok FLIR one gen 2 given to me as a present Xmas 2016. It has the won’t power up won’t power down won’t turn on charge light. Won’t do anything. Have read all about the fixes for this and nothing works. FLIR says out of warranty won’t do anything about it. I want a thermal camera that I can run from iOS. I still like the FLIR but I am concerned about reliability. So has the gen 3 or pro fixed the conditions plaguing the gen 2. Or would a Seek be better. Or some other recommendation under $400

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 05:46:45 am
content: Find ausedSeek Compact PRO(new ones aren't such a great deal money-wise).Your options are very slim at under $400, as the good stuff starts from there and goes up.

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 01:35:45 pm
content: Have you taken it apart yet ? If not sounds like you have nothing to lose.A lot of these seem to be battery related so needs an internal fix not just software prodding from outside.Several teardowns to guide you, easy once past the sticky tape holding the case together.Bill

author: Fordoldfart
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 07:52:40 pm
content: Oh yeah I have had it apart. Battery will charge is charged. Don't matter now broke the connector between the main board and the lighting connector. So looking for what would be a good replacement. Don't need another 3 uses and it is junk product.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 08:53:53 pm
content: Do not forget to sell your Lepton 3 core on eBay. You will likely get more for it than for the whole faulty FLIR One G2 !Fraser
Flir One Pro show wrong temperature (112° on face) - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Stereo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2018, 11:48:50 am
content: Flir One Pro show wrong temperature, about 112° on face and so on.If any ideas - ask to help, thank you.

author: Vipitis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2018, 12:54:27 pm
content: Here are some things you can do:Force a shutter calibration and wait 3 seconds.Chose a fitting emissivity setting.Look at a high contrast scene.Let it burn in a bit.

author: in.Vitro
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2018, 07:19:01 am
content: and turn it to Celsius :3

author: maukka
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 19, 2018, 09:05:03 am
content: It's a known problem on the new iOS at least on the 2nd Gen Flir One. They're working on a fix.
Software and Information CD for Argus 2 & 3 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2017, 12:28:14 am
content: I have uploaded copies of the Argus 2 and Argus 3 CD's as supplied with the cameras to the fire-tics website for browsing and download.The CD have:Datasheets for cameras and accessoriesUser manualsSample video and descriptionsCustomer control software.The software is pretty limited functions like change time / date and display C or F. The Argus 3 software also allows image download and colouring.In both cases I have altered the 'Install' to be 'download zip'.http://www.fire-tics.co.uk/Argus2_CD/index.htmhttp://www.fire-tics.co.uk/Argus3_CD/index.htmTo connect to the camera you need a special cable for the Fischer connector on the camera to RS232. These were also supplied with the cameras.Bill

author: nitroluver
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 11, 2018, 08:08:40 pm
content: Do you where I can get a cable?

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2018, 12:39:51 am
content: I'm afraid it is a case of make your own. The Fischer connectors are expensive, but the rest is easy with 3 wires and a 9 pin D.You'd need a SE102A054 or similar (5 pin 102 series).Failing that you could replace the socket with something else.Pinout belowregardsBill
Flir A65 bad pixel - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: SKE
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2018, 01:57:40 pm
content: I have bought a seconhand thermocam Flir A65 but unfortunately it has a bad pixel.Is it possible to suppress it? I have read it can be done by calibration process.Does callibration have to be done by Flir or is there any other option?Thanks for the reply

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2018, 04:10:23 pm
content: The A65 uses a Tau2 640 core, which means it has to go back to FLIR to do any form of calibration, as far as I'm aware.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2018, 05:35:18 pm
content: Yes, TAU2 is a ' Return to Manufacturer for calibration' core. The Dead Pixel mapping is locked away from the users as the service menu's can provide access to things FLIR would not wish users to see. Only lens calibration is made available to users. The early FLIR E4 cameras contain a service menu to update the Dead Pixel map. The TAU series may have similar but I have yet to find a way to access it.Fraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2018, 05:38:25 pm
content: It is worth checking that you you do indeed have a Dead Pixel. Sometimes a spec of dirt on the Microbolometers window causes a similar effect. Well worth checking but I am not sure how easily the microbolometer window may be accessed on the A65.Fraser

author: SKE
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2018, 07:22:46 pm
content: Thank you for your suggestions.Is there any way how to determine between a dead pixel and speck of dirt without opening the camera?In my case the dead pixel (actually 2) sometimes looks like cold or hot depending on scene or temperature of the camera.Have any of you here tried to open Flir A65 to get to microbolometer window?

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2018, 07:56:24 pm
content: That is definitely a dead pixel, not dust.Too small and sharp to be dust.
FLIR ResearchIR 4 Max licence dongle on eBay UK £99 start ! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 01:12:16 am
content: I recently purchased a FLIR ResearchIR 4 Max HASP licence dongle from a seller on eBay. It was brand new and sealed in the FLIR box. I won it for £204.I see that the seller is offering another with a start price of £99 or B.I.N of £299. I understand the seller has more stock of these licences as well. I suspect they were provided free with purchases of some expensive thermal cameras but that is not proven.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T198696-Flir-Research-IR-max-4-Dongle-software-1250-worth/253330521526?hash=item3afbacfdb6:g:AgEAAOSwySVZ~PNnThis is professional thermal analysis software for many FLIR cameras, including the Ex and Exx series. Normally it is very expensive, especially for the HASP dongle version. It offers the advantage of no on-line activation and the ability to install the software on several computers (HASP is needed to run though).I have no connection to the seller but I know at least one person on this forum was also wanting the Hasp licence dongle that I bought. It may be worth contacting the seller to try to buy a licence dongle for want I paid. These seem to have sold in previous auctions, from the same seller, for around £300. I will let the seller know that he may receive messages about buying at a discount.It is rare to see such new and sealed software licences offered on eBay. These are legitimate licence dongles and mine works perfectly with the ResearchIR 4.4 MAX that I downloaded from FLIR's software page.The seller also appears to have FLIR Tools+ activation certificates. If you want one, ask for a price.Fraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 10:16:37 am
content: I just heard back from the seller. The current eBay auction is for the last licence dongle. I see that two auctions since mine sold dongles for £100 and £150 ! Bargains !https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T198696-Flir-Research-IR-max-4-Dongle-software-1250-worth/253331883591?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49130%26meid%3D4140f16807b0401a8a59311e49863ee6%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D253330521526&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850The seller has also lowered the B.I.N price to £250.Fraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2018, 10:15:26 pm
content: The seller just contacted me. They say they have found another licence to sell.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T198696-Flir-Research-IR-max-4-Dongle-software-1250-worth-LAST-ONE-AVAILABLE/253353443024?hash=item3afd0abed0:g:AgEAAOSwySVZ~PNnSadly the seller has upped the price to £250 start and £350 B.I.NIf you want it, it may be worth offering £200 as I hear that is what they have been offering to previous buyers.Fraser
Just saying thanks! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: texmed
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 07, 2018, 01:50:02 am
content: Just wanted to say thank you to all the great minds on this forum. I am not programming inclined at all but was able to do the E4 "upgrade" on the first attempt. Had an issue with not being able to download pics from the camera afterwards, but was able to figure that out as well after reading thru some of the posts. Thanks you guys for all the great information on here!!!!!
Flir i3 upgrade - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Billy V
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 28, 2017, 07:51:12 pm
content: anyone know of someone who upgrades the flir cameras ? i3 to i7 specs? i know its possible and have seen the hacks, i'd rather pay someone than risk it.thanks

author: pelule
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2017, 08:07:48 pm
content: I upgraded my Flir i3 to a Flir i7.Followed the procedure, described herehttps://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwitjNDAwK3YAhUIIuwKHYYtCoAQFggqMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eevblog.com%2Fforum%2Fthermal-imaging%2Fflir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown%2F%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Battach%3D85490&usg=AOvVaw2uWxW5_pdOxUzDi3ndew8u/PeLuLe
New manufacturer for thermal sensor and modules  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: oscar26899
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 09, 2018, 08:28:02 am
content: A new manufacturer could supply thermal sensor and modules from 240x180, 384x288, 640x480 to 1024x768 with different lens for option.http://en.iraytek.com.cn/If any one need it, pls contact me.Skype: oscar2008520

author: oscar26899
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 09, 2018, 08:30:12 am
content: This is the 1024x768 with 14um image.

author: oscar26899
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 09, 2018, 08:51:27 am
content: Sorry, I only have this acount. My friend had posted my contact information before. Maybe that's confused you.

author: oscar26899
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 09, 2018, 09:33:26 am
content: I can say compare to Flir and Ulis, the price will be more competitive. I can give the price based on the detail projects.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2018, 02:48:39 pm
content: Good to see that a China based company is offering decent Microbolometers at competitive pricesFraser

author: Ultrapurple
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2018, 11:23:44 am
content: Are any data sheets available, even if only short-form?

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2018, 09:16:19 pm
content: Would be good to see some prices and options for radiometric cameras.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

author: mahony
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2018, 11:29:48 pm
content: Hi,can you give me a price for the XCore Micro in 384x288 and 640x512 formats? PN is fine for me but I guess others might be interested too.Is there a full spec sheet available regardings Pinout, Interface and so on?Thank you and kind regards.@Ultrapurple: something like this?XCore Micro 384x288:http://en.iraytek.com.cn/uploadfile/2016/1114/20161114094612299.pdfXCore LA 1024x768:http://en.iraytek.com.cn/uploadfile/2016/1114/20161114094546803.pdfI would like to get hand on something more detailed. Like the FLIR Datasheets including all the interfaces and so on.

author: tonykids
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2018, 02:35:07 am
content: Also interested in the price of XCore Micro&LA.@oscar26899's profile shows that he is offline after February 10.It's Spring Festival in china now,I think they are enjoying their holiday .
Chinese HT02  - Worh buying? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: cezar
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 08:58:40 pm
content: I was wondering if anyone uses this for fault finding. I'm planning to buy one for this purpose as well as for checking thermal insulation of houses.https://www.banggood.com/HT02-Handheld-Thermograph-Camera-Infrared-Thermal-Camera-Digital-Infrared-Imager-Temperature-Tester-p-1102527.htmlFlir one has slightly better sensor but it's ridiculously expensive in EuropeAny thoughts?

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 09:17:33 pm
content: No, it's not, at all.You can get one of the Seek's products for around as much money(~$200), some even brand new on sales.The HT-02 and HT-175 use thermopile arrays, I believe from Heimann. I am certain the HT-175 uses a Heimann HTPA32x32d(of which I have a tube) - even the product photo has a photoshopped image from the brochure on it.These are basically people counting devices, and they're really not great for thermal imaging(although the datasheet does provide temperature calculation formulas), not to mention inertia-prone and slow.You certainly won't see much detail in insulation and almost none in low thermal gradients.Not to mention it's useless for electronics fault finding, since it can't focus up close.

author: Ultrapurple
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2017, 10:21:07 am
content: +1 to Spirit532's comments.The Seek, with all its limitations, is a class above the 'phaser' style low resolution devices. (I struggle even to call them 'imagers'). I'mfarfrom a Seek fanboi but often recommend picking up one used on eBay (etc) and learning from it whilst saving up for a 'real' thermal imaging camera. You'll sell the Seek for roughly what you paid for it.An alternative of course is one of the much higher resolution (but clunky) ex fire service or similar cameras. Most give around 320x240 at 30Hz and only cost about twice as much forwaybetter performance. But it depends on whether you're looking at it for hobbyist or professional use. And the fire service type imagers will need a cheap auxiliary lens to focus up close (or you can usually go inside and adjust the focus but it's a 'factory set' type option that you won't want to adjust very often because it's a pain to strip and rebuild the camera each time).
cincinnati irris-256st 3-5um teardown photos - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: elor
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2017, 09:22:12 am
content: my first teardown post please advice regard to which camera is best to usefor taking the photos (in this case it was an iphone 6 so sorry for the low quality)what else should i add to my teardowns suggestion would be appreciated
Seek Reveal for PCB photos - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: dementeddigital
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 31, 2016, 02:45:20 pm
content: With the recent flood of low cost thermal cameras hitting the market, I'm looking to get one.My primary use will be taking thermal photos of printed circuit boards for use in debug and design, but I'd also like to be able to take it out on a hike with my dog. The Seek Reveal units look durable and convenient enough to take out hiking, but I don't know if any of them would work to take photos 6" to 12" from a PCB.Is the Seek Reveal (or XR or XR FF) a reasonable choice? Should I be looking at something else? My budget is around $500.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 31, 2016, 02:54:42 pm
content: What you should care about is adjustable focus. Resolution is less important. Fixed focus thermal cameras will show blurry image at close distance (what you need the most when inspecting PCBs). You could also look at thermal experthttp://www.i3-thermalexpert.com/product/t-e-q1/much better image quality than what Seek offers.IIRC T. E – Q1 cost about $500

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 01, 2016, 07:45:27 am
content: Reveal would probably be ok with additional 100mm ZnSe lens from ebay (20$).That would give you approx 4" focus distance which is ok for pcb inspection.But as said T.E. Q1 has manual focus and image quality is so much better it's not even funny.(You cant judge the image quality of the Reveal by looking at images at thermal.com because most of them is fake and were not made with SeekThermal modules...)Some of my photos taken with TE Q1+:

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 01, 2016, 08:08:13 am
content: Comparison fromhttp://www.mjlorton.com/thermal-cameras-buyers-guide/:Seek Reveal:ThermApp (very similar to TE Q1 since it has the same resolution and similar lens)

author: dementeddigital
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 01, 2016, 06:43:55 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on August 31, 2016, 02:54:42 pmHow do I get prices for their different models? I emailed their support yesterday, but they haven't responded. Is there an online store with visible prices?

author: dementeddigital
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 01, 2016, 06:53:15 pm
content: Quote from: frenky on September 01, 2016, 08:08:13 amThat link talked me out of buying the Seek Reveal! Thanks!

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 02, 2016, 08:34:35 am
content: Quote from: dementeddigital on September 01, 2016, 06:43:55 pmThey usually answer within 24h.From my emails with i3system...T.E. Q1 -> 499$T.E. Q1 Plus -> 599$T.E. Q1 Pro -> 699$T.E. V1 -> 2999$Accessories kit -> $80

author: All Seeing Eye
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2017, 02:29:16 pm
content: I seehttp://www.i3-thermalexpert.com/product/t-e-narrow/but it's showed:Sorry, this product cannot be purchased.
Looking for all around starter camera, diesel engines, automotive, and PCB?? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: theBigK
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2017, 08:30:26 am
content: I like the flir one pro ability of higher temp range to be able to see very hot injectors and exhaust problems. I would like to be able to look at PCBs as well.I looked at seek, therm app, and thermal experts, considered a hacked E30 if the temp range is that of an E60, have a budget of a $1000 for the first one, but don't mind seeing if the one pro may be enough?Any input is appreciated my only worry with the lower resolution is whether I'll be able to figure anything out while looking at an engine

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2017, 08:45:44 am
content: Member Fraser is our thermal imaging expert, hunt out the many posts he has on the forum on thermal stuff or send him a PM seeking advice.

author: Ultrapurple
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2017, 10:26:12 am
content: Resolution is important. Take a look at the12 days of thermal riddlesto see how confusing low resolution images can be. (Those images are deliberately made to be difficult to interpret).Also have a look at theThermal Imaging Gallerywhere you'll see sample images from a wide range of devices and resolutions.If you need to measure the actual temperature of injectors and exhausts then you will need a higher quality (radiometric) camera. If all you need to do is see relative hot spots (for example, 'this injector is hotter than the other three') then the majority of thermal cameras will do.Personally, I would avoid resolution lower than 160x120, for ease of interpretation; 320x240 (or 384x288), whilst significantly more expensive, is in my opinion generally more revealing.Adjustable focus will be a must if you intend to use the same device for PCBs and engines.It may be worth your while buying a used, low resolution Seek or Flir camera on eBay or similar so you can get the feel of things, then buy a 'proper' camera and sell on the lower resolution unit. You're likely to get more or less what you paid for it.
buying aga thermovision 680 LW - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Geodetic
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2017, 06:49:35 pm
content: hi guysi'm looking for a aga thermovision 680 camera scanner. the one designed for LW especially.i got a flir pm695 camera and i'm looking to use aga's optics to try design a NETD enhancer, but i miss the aga XDi recently bought a aga 680 wich is the medical version and it does work at MW. altough it is good for a MW sensor i have, i was hoping to find something for the LW camera.thanks guys, whoever answers to me ^^

author: Geodetic
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2017, 07:37:42 pm
content: i could also consider another 680 MW because with two optics i may try to something more with the mw sensor:)

author: Geodetic
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 02:04:50 am
content: upif this is under the rules just tell me and i will avoid it

author: Mashpriborintorg
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2017, 02:11:36 pm
content: I have a 680 camera alone, it was a less than 50 euros eBay find, with a lens, I could not let it go, purely for collection (hoarding ?) purpose. But I was never able to find the matching controller / display box. Are these ancient beasts still actually used in a professionnal environment somewhere ? Sourcing the liquid nitrogen as an individual hobbyist is a little difficult, also.

author: Vipitis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2017, 03:06:12 pm
content: Alone the lenses are worth a lot... Nice find. Makes me jealous.

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2017, 08:02:51 pm
content: The 680's controller is huge - if I recall, it weighed over 15 kilos and was the size of a large oscilloscope(which is almost what it was).It's unlikely you'll find one, and definitely not the cable. The lenses are good though.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2017, 11:27:56 pm
content: I bought a 680 Thermal camera that came with the microscope lens block. That is to say, it is a thermal microscope 🙂These cameras contain a large amount of quite valuable Germanium, beyond that found in the lenses. The two rotating prisms are Solid Germanium.I have the controller to camera umbilical cable if anyone ever needs it. Rare as hens teeth theses days.Fraser
Accidently formatted E4  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: smarvel
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 03, 2017, 12:54:23 pm
content: Hi guys,I just accidently formatted the E4 photo space. I didnt backup.Now all I get is "The image could not be saved. There is no memory card." when I try to take a photo.Is there any way to solve this problem?Flir E4 2.0L3.9.0Any help is greatly appreciated!

author: Xavier64
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2017, 07:06:12 pm
content: Just do aRESET to factoryand delete all images through the menu.this should solve the issue.

author: smarvel
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 07, 2017, 11:12:54 am
content: I did this like 3 times but it still doesnt work

author: Dirkmicha
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 12:36:30 pm
content: Hello,If anyone has a solution here, I would be glad if you could post! I have the same problem with my E4 andI'm afraid to send these in, as far as I know, a firmware update is made.

author: mcinque
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 05:22:30 pm
content: Quote from: Dirkmicha on December 09, 2017, 12:36:30 pmIt would be better to write in english, as this it's an international forum.

author: Dirkmicha
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 09:23:06 am
content: Thank you for the information.
FLIR Boson 640x512 @ 60 Hz now available for everyone* - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: chicken
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2017, 05:34:11 pm
content: *if you're in the US and have $2794 to sparehttps://store.groupgets.com/products/flir-boson-640

author: Vipitis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2017, 09:19:19 pm
content: the professional and industrial are at $4,052 and $4,471 respectively. they are probably the ones with 640x512 resolution - although I don't understand directly what the difference is. All those listings include the cheapest lens option, being 4.9mm... which should result in different fov due to the crop factor of different resolutions.the pictured 6.5mm/f1.0 option is not in the list.oem cameras has a no lens verion of the low resolution one for just $1,449:http://www.oemcameras.com/flir-boson-320x256-no-lens.htmhere the 73mm lens:It is a very nice new core - and has a lot of potential with the offered boards for computer vision - but the 9hz version is really a bummer and 60hz makes it 7 times better.

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2017, 09:56:43 pm
content: The consumer, professional and industrial versions refer to the sensitivity, not the resolution.Still waiting for the radiometric versions!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2017, 10:01:05 pm
content: Also, 3-4 month lead time and they're not shipping 60hz outside of US. Shame.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Radiometric >300x200 thermal @ >20 Hz for under $1000 - still a dream? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2017, 12:42:33 am
content: It's relatively easy to obtain a radiometric 320x240 camera that is capped at <9Hz by the manufacturer(s) to avoid export controls - like the FLIR E4(often around $700-900), the SeeK Thermal Pro($350-500), Thermal Expert Q1(<$1000), and sometimes even the non-"Hz" Therm-App from Opgal(their eBay store often dips below $1000, and used units go for around that much).One can argue that you don't need more than 9Hz for most, if not all civilian applications, and that is completely true, but if you forgo that argument and look at the market there seems to be a vacuum of options in this particular segment.I'm talking specifically about devices capable of temperature measurement, because "scope" or "monocular"-style 320x240 30/60Hz cameras do exist and can be purchased from many places, including those that do not conform to ITAR/Wassenaar(Russia, China).What are your opinions on this? Do you know of any company that makes/sells higher frame rateradiometriccameras with the aforementioned specifications for less than $1000 to customers that fill out the necessary paperwork and obtain an export license?

author: Vipitis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2017, 06:33:20 am
content: I think there is hacked is ThermApp to 25hz.What you are asking for is a really difficult niche. But I think there are flir radiometric cameras for drone use that are currently on sale for like 1.5k$

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2017, 06:35:42 am
content: Quote from: Vipitis on November 24, 2017, 06:33:20 amHacking isn't really legal - especially if it's making a non-export-controlled device a controlled one, without notifying the proper organisations.That, and it adds around $100-300 since it's a paid "service".When you take the step to around $2000 you can get a few 320x240 @ 30Hz devices, but I can't seem to find any at around the $1000 or less mark.
Mikron (NEC) compact thermal camera bargain..... - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2017, 02:21:39 pm
content: A fellow forum member is offering a Mikron Compact thermal camera for sale at a very reasonable price. It is in truth an NEC F30S 160 x 120 9fps manual focus thermal camera. It contains an excellent microbolometer. Well worth considering at $340. I have no connection to the sale but I do own four of these cameras !https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/(fs)-nec-avio-f30s-thermal-camera-mikroshot-b-160x120/Fraser

author: Vipitis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2017, 06:51:09 pm
content: Looks like an interesting product.Do you happen to know a little about the optics? I saw that it has adjust focus down to 10cm, but what is the fov of the sensor?Getting a new camera is something I thought about a while, I was eyeballing a Flir Scout TK I found for 495€ being sold from a Flir retailer as demo unit. I still hadn't had the time to understand the post processing it does and I am waiting on a response to try it before I make a decision.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2017, 07:25:09 pm
content: Spec is herehttp://www.infrared.avio.co.jp/en/products/ir-thermo/lineup/f30/spec.htmlFOV is 28 Degrees Horizontal x 21 Degrees VerticalI think you may have missed it though.... someone have sent a PM to the seller.Fraser
FLIR Scout - new modell's firmware for older PS24 modell works? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Razor18
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 28, 2017, 08:47:43 am
content: Hi There,I have a FLIR Scout PS24, and was just wondering, if replacing it's own FW 03.13.00 with a newer modell's firmware (Scout II firmware 03.43.16 is the latest available at FLIR homepage at least) would work at all, or do anything better? Or is there any way of improving PS24 performance (short of buying a new model of course)

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2017, 08:50:25 am
content: @Fraser is your guy for this, as I believe he owns a similar model. An interesting fact about this camera is that it isn't actually 240x180 it is 320x240 but FLIR just wanted to fill the void in the detector range.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2017, 11:23:28 am
content: As far as I am aware, the Scout II firmware will not load onto a PS24.The Scout II contains upgraded hardware in the form of a 640 x 480 LCD viewfinder in place of the PS series 320 x 240 LCD. Upscaling is employed to convert the 320 x 240 pixel image to the higher resolution EVF.The PS and Scout II main boards are very similar but the Scout II provides a video output on the mini USB connector as well as the contacts on the bottom of the case.The Scout II employs the later, and slightly higher performance TAU 2 core. The TAU 1 cannot be upgraded to provide TAU 2 performance. The TAU us a fully open version in these cameras. That is to say, all its unused additional features are present and useable via direct commands to its Serial interface. The command set provided by the processor on the PS orScout II scope is what limits the available functions, it is intended to be a scope rather than a Radiometric camera. The TAU has many colour palettes available that are sadly not used in its PS and Scout II embodiments. See my TAU teardown and repair thread on this forum. I also did a tear down of both a MS224 (PS 24 marine version) and The FLIR HS Commander scope. You will find them in this forum.As Chanc3 has stated. There is no such resolution as 240 x 180 in the TAU core range and the TAU in the PS24 runs at its standard 320 x 240 resolution. Why Claom 240 x 180 for it ........ Marketing !The PS and Scout series. Ameras are manufactured by a third party for FLIR and FLIR just provide the TAU core for installation into the design.Another forum member has managed to modify some firmware from a rifle sight version so that it loads onto the PS series and provides additional functionality. Use at you risk though as it is a hack. Check this forum for details.Hope this information is of interest.Fraser
Avio 100µm f/4 lens? 100µm?? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ultrapurple
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2017, 06:07:45 pm
content: I spotted what I think is an oddity on eBay - a 100µm f/4 lens. No, not a misprint, the photos of the lens clearly show 100µm f/4. It is described as "AVIO TVC 85100U 100um F4 Infrared Thermal Imager Lens".SeeeBay auction: #171730737522for details. Any thoughts?VLWIR anyone?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2017, 06:10:35 pm
content: It is a Macro Lens with a resolution of 100um on the target per pixel on the specified camera.Fraser

author: Ultrapurple
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2017, 06:15:59 pm
content: Ah, yes, I see - thanks. I've done some of that the old-fashioned way.Much more of a write-up here.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2017, 06:17:07 pm
content: NEC Avio still offer such close working lenses for their current cameras as can be seen in the attached picture.The seller ("S0-Hi-End") is a very expensive source of thermal camera parts who basically collects scrap kit and tries to sell it at massive profit. Much of the kit is in very poor physical condition.Buyer Beware and all that.Fraser
Orion Thermal Camera made by ICx attached to a WASP P/T unit - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: BrunoT
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 06:48:58 pm
content: So my boss noticed a camera on a tower along our perimeter the other day and decided to pull it into the shop and take a look at it.It then got placed in my work area with a "See what you can do with this".......It is an Orion Thermal Camera Part Number: 1220020 made by ICx attached to a WASP P/T unit.I am having a difficult time finding any information about this camera such as the pinout for the cables etc.....It powers up and displays and image but its too hard to see for my old eyes on the tiny spot monitor, I'll have to hook it up to a larger monitor but it looks like the ICx main page with some text at the bottom....It has two sets of wires and two Coax excluding the power wires from the power supply. I would think that one set is for the Wasp P/T unit and the other might be for the focus of the camera?Anyway if anyone out there has any legacy data on this camera please let me know.Thanks.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 08:06:52 pm
content: Photos needed please. I may recognise the camera.Was the camera connected and in service or abandoned on the network ? The controller for it may still be in a rack somewhere ?Fraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 08:18:36 pm
content: "Orion Cooled Thermal ImagerOrion Cooled Thermal ImagerRequiring only four screws and one cable, ICx cameras install with little effort. Their light weight and small power draw add to the ease of installation, use and to the mobility of the system. ICx cameras are field- tested and in use in operating environments ranging from current conflict theaters, to maritime facilities, airfields, ports, and nuclear facilities.Like its "uncooled" counterparts, the Orion easy integrates with existing security systems and technologies. It supports most protocols used in commercial and military applications and can be integrated with fiber, wireless, or IP networks. The Orion also interfaces with radar, VMD, UGS (Unattended Ground Sensors) or other trigger devices to provide a slew-to-cue solution. "(taken from :https://www.copybook.com/companies/icx-technologies/articles/cooled-thermal-imager)So she is a cooled camera. Expect her cooler to be in need of a service if it does not drop back to idle within 10 minutes after power on.Fraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 08:36:50 pm
content: Looking at the camera and who makes it, I think you will need to approach ICx via official channels.Like DRS, they will only talk about such cameras with previous customers or those with appropriate credentials.I assume your employer has such credentials so you should be OK.Fraser
Niiiice camera on eBay: Leonardo Selex Horizon MWIR 1280x720, 80-960mm AF zoom - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ultrapurple
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2017, 02:02:13 pm
content: There's a really nice-looking MWIR camera on offer at the moment -eBay auction: #292306578350- 1280 x 720 cooled MWIR with a zoom lens the size of a telescope. Asking price is £33,500 (gulp) - but I think that's probably actually on the cheap side. There are some nice photos on the auction, including the internals.To quote the description (more or less in full)QuoteDear Santa,I know I haven't been acompletelygood boyallyear, but...

author: Vipitis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2017, 02:29:10 pm
content: I would like to try it.... I wonder if there is old military grade hardware laying arround somewhere

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2017, 04:48:06 pm
content: Impressivethis is the sort of technology the BBC are using on Autumnwatch. From memory they are using a Selex Galileo high resolution camera that they hire-in for the work.It would be interesting to know the history of this camera. I suspect it is the property of a video production company who no longer have a use for it.Thankfully they understand the regulations associated with shipping the unit. I was a little surprised to read that shipping would be from Ireland, yet the camera is stated as being located in London.A very nice camera to own but it does contain a Sterling Cooler and no matter what the specs say, they can fail early on in life without warning. Just ask NASA as they have done extensive life testing to better understand the technology for use in their space vehicles. To have the Cooler repaired by Selex would likely cost almost as much as the cameras asking price.I would prefer someone else to own it, and the maintenance costs and just borrow it when neededI do wonder if this auction will get pulled though. Selex is part of Finmeccanica, a military equipment manufacturing company. I suspect they may not approve of one of their cameras appearing on eBay, just a hunch I have as I have worked with them.Fraser

author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2017, 10:14:19 pm
content: Very nice, check out some frames from the film:https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/feb/15/richard-mosse-incoming-review-barbican-curve-migrant-crisis

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 02:37:41 am
content: Certainly adds some drama to scenes.
Thermal Camera with SDK phyton - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: magodeoz123456
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 02:08:42 am
content: Hello,I'm looking for a thermal camera LWIR, with SDK in phyton. I have around 1000 USD for buying it. It's important to have a higher feature the lepton 3, I'm designing an experiment and I need a Gold Standard for comparing the result.Thanks alot
Purchase recommendation thermal imaging camera Testo 865 or Flir E4 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: dieter1968
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 23, 2017, 06:50:50 am
content: Hello !I have no experience with thermal imaging.Would like to buy one for buildings and photovoltaic modules to checkTesto 865 costs 870 and Flir E4 770euro.Who has experience with the camerasgreeting dieter

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2017, 05:35:40 pm
content: Quote from: dieter1968 on October 23, 2017, 06:50:50 amFLIR E4, might be new hack available soon to upgrade it to 320x240.
Two FLIR A65 cameras available for sale in the US - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 22, 2017, 11:47:27 pm
content: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Flir-A65-Infrared-LWIR-Machine-Vision-Thermal-Camera-Cables-Included-/192323221102If anyone is interested in acquiring a 640x512 resolution, Ethernet connected thermal camera at a discount, you may want to make an offer on these listings. I would start with 20% off the asking price, maybe even lower.The seller has low feedback, but I have purchased from them before, and they are legit.

author: Bruno28
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2017, 08:56:42 am
content: How much are they? Any links?Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2017, 11:20:04 am
content: Quote from: Bruno28 on October 23, 2017, 08:56:42 amI didn't realize the eBay linky thing doesn't work on mobile, changed it in the OP.