G'day mate: 1.7-billion-year-old chunk of North America found in Australia - Page 1
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author: Homer J Simpson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 01:07:57 am
content: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2018/01/23/australia-north-america-supercontinent-nuna/1058577001/

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 01:53:02 am
content: Mmkay! Kinda far fetched compared to us homosapiens life span. Diamond bearing sandstone of very same kind have been found in south america and Africa. Give a million years more planet earth might decide to make yet another super continent. But now Americans can move to AU without emigration papers!

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 02:02:23 am
content: Interesting article, thanks for sharing.The article keeps talking about "rocks", which are puny when compared to "boulders":https://youtu.be/Ln3eDFUuqJ4

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 02:37:01 am
content: Quote from: dryjoints on January 24, 2018, 02:08:25 amI am not sure if you are joking, trolling, or really believe what you just said.

author: rhb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:15:02 am
content: The Bishop of Usher determined that the earth was created at a certain hour on a certain day around 5-6000 BC. Obviously he was a learned man and his word should not be doubted,Of course, if you're not a Christian you are entitled to have whatever opinion about the age of the earth you wish. Geologists just have an obsession with trying to reconcile all the conflicting bits of information. This leads to rather larger estimates of the ages of rocks.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:20:40 am
content: I don't know where you took such offense, but to me there were three options. You answered which option it was. Why be so obnoxious when it was you who ridiculed the idea that world was older than 10,000 years? You can believe what you want but the internet is full of trolls, jokers, and I wanted to be sure about your conviction on what you said. I am surely not wrong for clarifying that.So you say there there is conclusive evidence that the Earth is no older than 10,000 years old and ridicule those who believe otherwise. Please provide this proof, I would love to see it.Also, don't get all offended when you ridicule other publicly and people ask for clarification on your statement.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:22:54 am
content: Quote from: rhb on January 24, 2018, 03:15:02 amHuh?Are you saying you believe the Bishop of Usher or the evidence of scientific study?

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:30:18 am
content: Quote from: dryjoints on January 24, 2018, 03:24:54 amI see, not able to back up what you say.

author: hermit
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:31:23 am
content: Expect the current US of A administration demand it be returned.

author: rhb
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timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:33:49 am
content: I have an MS in hard rock geology. Claims that the earth is less than several billion years old are quite simply silly.Once upon a time I could probably manage a cogent argument about what the 2nd decimal place should be, but that was long ago. And even then I didn't actually care. I was far more interested in looking at rocks.

author: xrunner
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timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:35:37 am
content: Quote from: dryjoints on January 24, 2018, 02:08:25 amEvidence please ...

author: Brumby
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timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:36:22 am
content: Quote from: rhb on January 24, 2018, 03:33:49 amCome to Sydney. The Rocks can be found at the southern end of the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:37:35 am
content: Quote from: dryjoints on January 24, 2018, 03:35:07 amYou were the one coming here to degenerate the post, the information, and evidence. Peace? LOL, you were looking for a fight not me.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:39:34 am
content: Hmm, and the killfile grows.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:42:07 am
content: Quote from: dryjoints on January 24, 2018, 03:41:08 amWaiting on evidence of your claims ...

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:47:34 am
content: Quote from: dryjoints on January 24, 2018, 03:41:08 amYou make an assertion without wanting a conversation, then say you will not respond anymore but do, and then claim I am offended without evidence again. Your behavior so far is exactly that of a troll. Prove what you say, no emotions involved. I bet you won't and bet you will continue to respond even though you say "stone wall mode ON"

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 03:55:16 am
content: Quote from: MT on January 24, 2018, 01:53:02 amThere will be a short stopover in Manus Island, though!

author: hermit
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 05:24:43 am
content: Quote from: rhb on January 24, 2018, 03:33:49 amThis is proof that there is a god and that god is a 'she'. She's screwing with you dude.I think those advocating a strict biblical time line interpretation have been answered rather nicely by Neils Bohr.

author: Gyro
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timestamp: January 25, 2018, 08:08:02 pm
content: Quote from: Homer J Simpson on January 24, 2018, 01:07:57 am"After studying ancient sandstone rocks, scientists recently concluded that modern-day Australia was once attached to North America, but broke away 1.7 billion years ago. USA TODAY"Now that's what I call foresight!We sneaked away about 50 Million years ago (but we didn't have as far to travel).

author: TerraHertz
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timestamp: January 26, 2018, 04:21:30 am
content: Quote from: Homer J Simpson on January 24, 2018, 01:07:57 amHmm, interesting. When I clicked the link I was expecting to read an article on large asteroid strikes, and material 'splashed' around the globe. Pre-Pangea continental drift is just as cool.If you like old, OLD rocks, have a look atHypatia, The Most MYSTERIOUS Stone in the Solar Systemand googleHypatia stone impact craterLibyan desert glassOh and for something much more recenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_al_Binni_lakeWhich reminds me, I must add the '6000 year old Earth' to my list of sadly prevalent insanities. Along with Scientology, Nibiru, Hollow/flat Earth, etc.

author: basinstreetdesign
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timestamp: January 26, 2018, 04:29:30 am
content: Still waiting for a plan for repatriation to Canada. When shall we expect the FedEx truck?

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 06:56:16 am
content: Quote from: rhb on January 24, 2018, 03:15:02 amOr if you are one of the majority of Christians who are rational enough not to take the Bible literally - or clear headed enough not to believe whatever some Bishop, Pastor or whatever flavor religious "leader" says as scientific fact.

author: IanMacdonald
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 04:08:53 pm
content: Actually I could make a new VM, set the clock to 1995, install Windows 95, set the clock to the present day and reboot. It would then seem to anyone using the VM that it has been created in 1995 and was over 20 years old. When in fact it was a few hours old. It would be hard to tell otherwise from within the VM, even the system files would have the right creation dates.Just occurs to me that if we are living in a simulation the same could apply, in which case the simulation need not be as old as it seems.As far as the Bible is concerned though, there are too many inconsistencies in it. Not least of which is that the God of the Old Testament did many more bad things than Satan. They shouldn't be allowed to teach that stuff to kids. It messes with their heads.

author: VinzC
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timestamp: January 26, 2018, 07:19:23 pm
content: Quote from: rhb on January 24, 2018, 03:15:02 amI find it utterly delightful when some grant themselves the luxury of having opinions about facts !

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 11:04:06 pm
content: Indian education minister dismisses "theory" of evolutionScientists condemn Satyapal Singh for saying Darwin’s theory is ‘scientifically wrong’https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/23/indian-education-minister-dismisses-theory-of-evolution-satyapal-singh

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 11:27:32 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on January 26, 2018, 11:04:06 pmSatyapal Singh says:“Since man is seen on Earth, he has always been a man. Nobody, including our ancestors, in written or oral, said they ever saw an ape turning into a human being.”Bible says:Genesis 2:7 teaches, “The Lord God formed a man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.”As far as I know, nobody ever saw dirt turn into a man either.

author: Electro Detective
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timestamp: January 26, 2018, 11:56:30 pm
content: "After studying ancient sandstone rocks, scientists recentlyconcludedthat modern-day Australia was once attached to North America, but broke away 1.7 billion years ago. ""Rocks recently discovered in Australia bearstriking similaritiesto those found in North America, a study finds. The sandstone sedimentary rocks the scientists uncovered are not "native" to present-day Australia, but instead are common in eastern Canada."Thekeep the paychecks comingscientists -concluded- based on striking similarities, and put the date at 1.7 billion years?What is there 'date baseline' reference?What are they smoking?Where can one apply for a job like that?

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2018, 12:40:20 am
content: See image. The continents of Earth used to all be part of one huge supercontinent which we now call Pangaea.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PangaeaBut they had a falling out so to speak and drifted apart.[img=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea#/media/File:Pangea_animation_03.gif]http://[img=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Pangaea_to_present.gif]

author: VinzC
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timestamp: January 27, 2018, 10:16:04 am
content: World © 2018 by United States of America™. Reinventing history. Starts with Australia®. Patent pending.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2018, 05:26:33 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 26, 2018, 11:27:32 pmI wish people would keep religion off this forum. It causes trouble and I'm pretty sure it's against the rules. If Dave doesn't permit discussing politics here, I'm pretty sure he doesn't permit religion either but I suppose we'll have to wait for him to comment.Anyway, back on topic: I find the headline sensationalist. The tectonic plates have been shifting for millions of years, so it's hardly surprising.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2018, 05:40:37 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on January 27, 2018, 05:26:33 pmI wish they would too, and I never start the arguments. But if somebody posts unsubstantiated claims it's the duty of critical thinkers to rebut them.If they aren't supposed to be here, then why don't the moderators delete the initial instigation? Besides, I saw Dave's account reading this thread and nothing was done about it ...

author: Neomys Sapiens
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timestamp: January 27, 2018, 09:05:53 pm
content: Quote from: IanMacdonald on January 26, 2018, 04:08:53 pmMaybe. But please don't blame Microsoft if you set your RTC waaayyy back and a big, ugly reptile looks into your window (or out of it).

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2018, 12:04:22 am
content: Fun bumper sticker seen in a research setting some years ago:"Stop Plate Tectonics!"

author: TerraHertz
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timestamp: January 28, 2018, 01:37:51 am
content: Quote from: Hero999 on January 27, 2018, 05:26:33 pmFTFY. Little details are important. Chunks of crust have been floating around on the magma currents since the first thin skins solidified on the molten surface of the proto-Earth.The '6000 year old Earth' line is useful for one thing - spotting people whose understanding of the nature of the Universe is about as reality-based as a My Little Pony episode. Cognitive distortions that could only arise through complete ignorance or rejection of multiple whole fields of science - geology, physics, archaeology, chemistry, astrophysics, oceanography, etc.What do these people think when they see things like the maps of ocean crustal expansion fault lines, and subduction zones? Maps of the alternating ancient magnetic field orientations frozen into the basalt solidified along the expansion lines, recording hundreds of millions of years of Earth's history just like a magnetic tape recorder? Isotopic aging down though billions of years of sedimentary strata? Carbon-14 dating of fossils? Age estimates of the Moon based purely on impact crater accumulation? An endless list... Do they think all this is just made up? Or the pathetic "God put this stuff there to fool us"?As usual with all the bizarre belief systems, I tend to think a few of the people involved have to be lying, for whatever reasons, while others are just gullible. Same as with Scientology - a core of originators who fabricate the scriptures, and the rest just sucked into the cult. Through not having the mental tools to spot falsehoods and resist social programming from those with whom they associate, and from the information channels they frequent. And zero habit of digging for information in alternate sources, for cross-checking.Hmm... now where do we see other examples of that today?"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the ILLUSION of knowledge."-- Daniel Boorstin"There is a principle, which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."-- Herbert Spencer, 1820-1903"The moment you declare a set of ideas to be immune from criticism, satire, derision, or contempt, freedom of thought becomes impossible."-- Salman Rushdie"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."-- William Casey, Director of Central Intelligence. An observation by the late Director at his first staff meeting in 1981.

author: hermit
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2018, 06:39:47 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on January 28, 2018, 01:37:51 amIt's pretty much 'pick and choose'. They use electronic devices to post to a 'cloud' disputing basic science?