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author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 19, 2018, 06:43:58 pm
content: https://www.ebay.com/itm/332811281078?https://www.ebay.com/itm/323445461289?Click on "View original item". Hmm... (Actually sold for $250, BTW.) Note serial numbers.I'd stay away from that one!

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2018, 07:17:19 pm
content: Can you expand on what you're getting at there? I fear whatever it is is too subtle for me to spot.

author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 19, 2018, 08:06:01 pm
content: Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 19, 2018, 07:17:19 pmThey are the same scope. The power supply was harvested (likely swapped in a dead supply) and is now being re-sold for more $. The active listing now has a bad power supply and main board.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2018, 09:20:44 pm
content: I still don't see the issue. Are you suggesting that if someone buys something they aren't allowed to sell it?The listing is truthful when it says the unit doesn't power on, and I can't see that it matters where the seller got the thing from, nor how much he wants for it in its current state (even vs what he paid for it - 'profit' is a word with an actual meaning).

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 20, 2018, 12:44:56 am
content: Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 19, 2018, 09:20:44 pmPrecisely. I've done it before where I've purchased an item off ebay knowing full well that I'm going to get it for a bargain price (and later resell it) or I've poached parts from the unit but returned the bought unit to some kind of sell-able condition.As dunkemhigh said, as long as you've described the listing accurately, who cares? If I own something, it's mine to do whatever I want with. If I make a bit of money out of it, hooray for me.

author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 20, 2018, 10:30:24 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on September 20, 2018, 12:44:56 amWell, I've been on the receiving end of buying equipment for parts/repair that have been cannibalized.Case in point, in the last year or so I bought a TDS784D that was listed as "not powering on."What I got was a unit that had the following faults:1. Dead CRT.2. Dead HV assembly.3. Dead power supply from a TDS700A4. 3 blown attenuator hybrids. They were obviously swapped in as they had different (older) revisions. Probably also from a TDS700A.5. The wrong CPU assembly (came from a TDS784A)In this case, the seller bought the scope knowing that it had a bad mainboard and swapped out the working power supply with a bad one, then lists the scope as not powering on, knowing full well that the mainboard is bad, but not disclosing it as such.I find it deceptive that a seller would cannabilize a piece of equipment, and load it up with bad parts. YMMV...

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2018, 10:43:03 am
content: That's a fair point and worth being made aware of.Maybe if you'd suggested that in the original post it would have been clear why you made the thread instead of leaving us to guess.

author: capt bullshot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2018, 11:10:33 am
content: Quote from: Jwalling on September 20, 2018, 10:30:24 amYou won't buy such stuff again, and many of us here won't either. But every day a new fool is born, so everyone is free to try to fool you again and again ...That's kind of fraud, at least deception, but still not against the wording of the rules. If it's obvious, just don't buy it.Same with the nasty practice of some sellers to remove plug-ins or modules from a perfectly working unit to sell them as separate items to make more profit - just don't buy it.

author: Jwalling
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 20, 2018, 03:33:57 pm
content: Quote from: capt bullshot on September 20, 2018, 11:10:33 amAnd some of us are capable of fixing this stuff if the game isn't rigged; I guess some are not.