Recently fixed Agilent 34401A resistor and Diode parts, Cal now ?  - Page 1
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author: The_Spectrum.A_idiot
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2024, 04:43:19 pm
content: Dear All ,I am quite new to these waters so I kindly ask you to bare with me, thank you in advance.After a long battle fixing an Ebay Agilent 34401A with a bubble on the PCB I need to test it before sending it off to calibration.I would like to know what would/could be a good way to test all of its functions before being disappointed like failing the cal?Precision resistors ?Lastly another question about calibration labs.In case the instrument is out of specs do they use the menu to calibrate whatever it's currently reading ( wrong ) with the proper value of their calibrated standard?OR just provide you with a deviation factor and live with it ?Because the later was the answer I got form a cert lab. That its not in their scope to actually run calibration on the instrument but rather test it against their own standards and provide a deviation / certificate of partial or full compliance.Let me know if I should ask for something else from them OR look for another cal lab that can do this( in case it's needed nonetheless)Thank you in advance for your time and support ,The Spectrum.

author: mendip_discovery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2024, 04:58:19 pm
content: A location would help. I know a few labs in the UK that would adjust if it's out of spec.

author: The_Spectrum.A_idiot
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2024, 06:08:27 pm
content: Currently in Greece. (for the time being)Funny enough the instrument was from a UK sellerThank you.

author: trobbins
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2024, 01:35:00 am
content: Do you have any other meters approaching 5.5 or 6.5 digit capability, or precision resistors that have a tight tolerance that you can use for future referencing, or a work bench that can be made to operate within a few degrees of 23C for long periods ? Can you borrow someone elses 5.5 or 6.5 digit DMM for round-robin comparisons ? There are many ways to grow your confidence in the readings a meter can give at any point in time for any particular range.In your situation where you may be able to get a deviation report, then imho additional value can be gained in quickly using your meter to transfer measurement levels to other parts such as reference resistors or other similar meters, or diy voltage and current references. That benefit is improved if you have a controlled temperature environment for testing, and controlled test setups such as leads and burdons that emulate what the test house may have used, and already prepared reference resistors with 4W terminals, and prepared voltage and current references. I've recently taken that path with a repaired 34401A. No single 'calibration' report is going to have long-term benefit, but spreading out your measurements over multiple parts/devices should provide confidence going forward that the 34401A is not significantly changing for particular ranges.It can take time and effort to build up related references/meters that can be used to complement a 34401A, so you may want to consider that preparation before paying for a one-off report, unless of course you plan to pay for such reporting on a 1-2 year cycle basis. If you do plan on getting regular reporting, then using the same test house and spreadsheeting actual measurement results can give confidence on how your 34401A is aging, and allow higher confidence in assigning adjusted measurement values to reference parts.

author: The_Spectrum.A_idiot
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 02, 2024, 05:25:58 pm
content: Quote from: trobbins on September 26, 2024, 01:35:00 amUnfortunately the closest thing I have is a 4.5 digit DMM.This Agilent is my first High precision meter. (ever)And stable temp ... a Bit imposible where I live. But I will set a temperature monitor Just in case