as seen in Walmart.... - Page 1
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author: mclute0
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 09:03:48 pm
content: this was on the shelf by the checkout and made me laugh out loud... it must work, look at her abs!https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shape-Freezer-Fat-Cell-Freezing-Body-Sculpting-Machine-with-10-Replacement-Pads/760666139

author: BrianHG
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 09:13:19 pm
content: The theory is that fat cell freezing works, HOWEVER, I believe the temperature needs to be perfectly regulated to a specific temperature within less than half a degree Celcius just under skin. In other words, a sophisticated real-time thermal scan and regulation using TEC coolers. The idea was to freeze the top layer of fat cells to death, let the body heal over a month to clear them out, then repeat again and again until you got rid of a small amount of fat. It is useless for obesity and I have not seen definitive proof that it actually works.See a picture of the machine and results here:https://ca.coolsculpting.com/homeSad to say I believe this was invented in my home town. And I am sure it costs big $ per visit as you need many.If you exercise on a normal occasion for fitness, I bet if you wear a little over-tight 3/5mm wetsuit/shortie, I bet the effect would be similar as you compress and added sweat away the loose fat.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 09:19:38 pm
content: At my nearest Walmart in Oberlin (yes, where the music college is) is usually where one see these abs:

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 11:07:21 pm
content: The coolsculpting thing apparently works for quite a few. But there are some highly publicized cases of extreme failures. I suspect it is like the collagen injections and all the other things that vanity drives people to do. Works amazing sometimes. Works ok most of the time. And has way too frequent massive failures. And almost never solves the underlying psychological problems that drive people to spend time and money this way.

author: AlbertL
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2022, 09:55:19 pm
content: Quote from: CatalinaWOW on July 22, 2022, 11:07:21 pmFormer supermodel Linda Evangelista is one of the better-known cases where it failed pretty severely.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2022, 10:14:36 pm
content: This would actually work, but, its easier to just turn down the thermostat in your house assuming you live in a colder climate.There is also probably no localized effect, its just cooling your whole body down.https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cold-air-may-help-you-lose-weight-by-making-your-body-burn-calories-to-keep-warm/2014/01/27/c1e75170-8462-11e3-9dd4-e7278db80d86_story.htmlQuoteIf you can convert your fat to brown fat, you'd might be better off than straight up liposuction.https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/how-brown-fat-improves-metabolism

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2022, 10:47:18 pm
content: Quote from: mclute0 on July 22, 2022, 09:03:48 pmQuoteSo they put that broken one that she returned back on the shelf.Trustpilot:https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.walmart.comQuoteI see many reviews are to do with buying broken things from third party sellers and Walmart refusing to refund it or promising to do so.QuoteSounds very sloppy to me and not like a reputable place to shop.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2022, 11:32:21 pm
content: The things people try to do to get a quick fix to a long term problem.It is annoying that the body never evolved a protection mechanism to stop storing fat once it has reached capacity. If you consume too much vitamin C you just pee out the excess, it would be great if sugar and fat was the same way. For thousands of years the supply of food was a limiting factor, at least in developed nations food is effectively infinite.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 03, 2022, 07:08:57 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on August 02, 2022, 11:32:21 pmWell, getting over-abundant access to food is something way too recent for humankind to have possibly triggered any significant evolution.We have rather been exposed to the exact opposite for an extremely long time (we're talking like a few decades vs. a few millions of years), so it's quite logical that the preferred mechanism was storing "fuel" (as fat) for later use and not even bother with throwing away excess "fuel". Evolution is a slow process, especially for mammals.The vitamin parallel is interesting and there are precisely counter-examples. There are quite a few vitamins that we can't excrete if consumed in excess, such as vitamin D (and a bunch of others.) Most likely because it was NEVER in excess for millions of years (and it may just become so if we take too much supplement, which is again something very new), so there was no need. While vitamin C was relatively abundant in fruits and so we definitely *could* consume it in excess, especially back when we were consuming a lot more fruits than we do today.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 03, 2022, 07:40:05 pm
content: While those evolutionary theories may sound logical and are amusing to read, I am less sure there is strong evidence for them. For example, if fats were scarce, then why is an enzyme needed for their absorption? (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/lipid-absorption#:~:text=Pancreatic%20triacylglycerol%20lipase%20is%20the,ingestion%20of%20a%20fatty%20meal). On the other hand, iron is plentiful in the environment and there is no regulation of its uptake. Iron overload is well known. Vitamin B12 is absolutely essential for humans and is not that common in our foods (except meat), but we require a specific factor to absorb it (intrinsic factor). Is that an error in evolution to have our life subject to a single-point failure.Don't get me wrong, evolution is great. I support it. But, I am skeptical of fairy tales about its consequences and direction.