Audio Nonsense, Presenting the LESS LOSS Blackbody! - Ambient Field Conditioner - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 12:43:18 pm
content: Oh my,I will admit I am a bit of an audio buff, I have expensive gear but I do not buy in to nonsense, I do not own expensive interconnects or speaker, cable came from Farnell!I believe in science/electronics not this audiophile nonsense.This takes the biscuit, how can they get away with selling this?Check out the Pseudo science in the article!This thing retails over $1000 and they recommend more than oneMaybe I'm missing a trick, I should buy some cheap cables, have them blessed by my local priest, soak them in holy water, hang them in a thunderstorm, burn them in on a bench PSU and finally get virgin nuns to packaged them when the sun is shining on the moon at just the right angle. Maybe £1000 a cable will suffice?I might even be wrong with this device, maybe we all need them in our labshttp://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.htmlReviews here:http://stereotimes.com/acc032212.shtmlhttp://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/lessloss4/blackbody.html

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 01:07:04 pm
content: Yes, outstanding BS. Had a good lough. And don't buy too much of them because it might break the mobile phone service in your area.

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 01:11:39 pm
content: I was sceptical until I saw the very extensive set-up procedure:Clearly using the Goldilocks differential method!

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 01:47:48 pm
content: Quote from: madires on November 17, 2014, 01:07:04 pmWould I sleep better with one strapped on each ear?

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 01:55:18 pm
content: Quote from: TheBay on November 17, 2014, 01:47:48 pmMaybe, but they will probably stop all your synapses from firing!

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 02:00:24 pm
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on November 17, 2014, 01:55:18 pmMight not be such a bad thing

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 03:31:26 pm
content: Quote from: TheBay on November 17, 2014, 01:47:48 pmeven better works whacking yourself int he head with a pair of these until you are unconscious.when you wake up : repeat

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 03:38:52 pm
content: Black Body..... Might make a good calibration standard for FLIR thermal cameras!!

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 03:52:09 pm
content: they keep talking about black body radiation. that must be hawking radiation then ? quick someone invent a hawking radiation absorber you can but next to these black bodies..you don't want hawking radiation in your house...

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 03:59:18 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on November 17, 2014, 03:38:53 pmThat can of coke will resonate, I think cherry is the worst flavour for it.The rug is offset to the left too much, that will be causing havoc with stereo imaging

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 05:02:55 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on November 17, 2014, 03:38:53 pmThat room is so well suited for professional listening, It allows you to hear easily the difference between standard IEC power cords and directional oxygen-free cryogenic treated pure copper power wires. Just kidding. It screams "audiophoolery".

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 06:27:29 pm
content: Could also scream unhappy marriage.Notice that the speakers block two doors, the room is very unkempt, rather like a slum-out and get drunk room.Normally they have a pool table or cinema/games system, but the propulsion system from a yellow submarine has the bases covered.So yes, it's Arthur Crabtree's greenhouse!Now I need a piece of marble with magnets...

author: deephaven
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 06:40:54 pm
content: I must get some for when I go EMC testing. I'm sure I could smuggle one into the test chamber

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2014, 12:36:51 am
content: The essense I get from this is that some people will believe anything you tell them as long as it sounds complex. It would be interesting to make one of them realize this.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 18, 2014, 08:02:16 am
content: Quote from: Yago on November 17, 2014, 06:27:29 pmThanks, I was trying to figure out what that reminded me of!

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 19, 2014, 11:09:12 am
content: The seem quite willing to send them out for reviews, maybe Dave should put this theory to bed

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 19, 2014, 09:41:49 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on November 17, 2014, 03:38:53 pmAmazing set up though. Some good equipment there on the left and those amps are amazing.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2014, 02:05:35 pm
content: "We now have a good explanation for why we have felt the need to introduce talismans, or tweaks of mahogany, tourmaline, smoky quartz, and other such items placed in strategic locations throughout our systems."Oh wow, the bullshit has gone meta.If only there were some kind of enclosure, or absorber, that could suck in all audiophoolery in the vicinity, leaving only clean, rational and informed technical discussion.I'd suggest a toilet, but that'd be toilet humor.Edit: Wait, wait! What happens if you put their Blackbody absorber in a microwave oven? For science!

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2014, 11:41:51 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on November 20, 2014, 02:05:35 pmThis is a very good idea. Everyone should do this because the microwaves will help align the atoms' electric fields for smoother flow.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2014, 11:55:15 pm
content: Quote from: SteveyG on November 19, 2014, 09:41:49 pmin a room with slanted surfaces left and right , no sound dampening upholstery anywhere. looks like a drywall on wood room as well. and you are going to do quality tests in that ? at least go listen to the system in an anechoic room. bunch of dolts ... there is more echo in this room than in the french alps ..and those halogen spots on tracks on the ceiling ? in those white boxes is the crappiest , most powerline polluting, switching mode 12 volt supply the chinese have ever invented. better make sure you use electron-free cable to feed that one .... those things chirp like crickets all by themselves.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2014, 11:56:54 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on November 20, 2014, 02:05:35 pmif you microwave the blackbody you need to tune your ears as well. i suggest microwaving your entire head, just to make sure...

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 22, 2014, 10:36:43 am
content: Quote from: free_electron on November 20, 2014, 11:55:15 pmNot sure if you're looking at the same picture, but there's acoustic panels on the wall.

author: IO390
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2014, 01:13:44 pm
content: http://www.lessloss.com/firewall-p-196.htmlFeatures:No capacitors, no diodes, no resistors, no inductors, no fuses...What the hell is inside it then?

author: ConKbot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2014, 03:58:11 pm
content: oh Ive seen this "skin filter" stuff before, they put a resistive coating on the surface of the wire, and claim that because of skin effect it attenuates high frequency, but passes power fine. If you can bond a conductive carbon coating or plate copper with titanium, would it attenuate RF and HF more than plain copper wire? probably, but a choke and caps probably do a lot better of a jobI should make a filter box/power strip that requires a separate earth stake, with a triple shielded mil-spec circular connector to IEC power cables for plugging in equipment, sell it for $700 per cable and $3k for the power strip.Maybe get a ferrite company on alibaba to make some 4" x 4" x 12" ferrite beads to feed power wires though.

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2014, 05:43:12 pm
content: Quote from: IO390 on November 22, 2014, 01:13:44 pmThis...But, eh. what?

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 23, 2014, 02:56:09 am
content: A bundle of steel rods by the look of it, (could actually be bicycle spokes) wrapped in a guess plastic, but could be something conductive, the question then is, if the wrapping was conductive, could they be seen as a very ineffective loop antenna? in other words actually causing a measurable effect to ambient EM field strength?now i am no audio fool, but i like to approach these things to find out what science they are relying on to rake in cash.And if this was the case, then they have built a device that functions on resistance, capacitance and inductance,hmm, pump a million amp through it and you have a fuse, and wait for oxide deposits on the metals and you could have yourself a diode