SOLD (UK): CIF reflow ovens 190mm x 290mm capacity - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2013, 07:42:56 pm
content: Another lot of customer returns. Looks like these came back because braindead customers don't read the simple instructions. They ship with a piece of glass for the viewing window and the customer is supposed to slide it into place. If they don't slide it into place then the oven never reaches temperature, just like leaving the oven door open.So... new and unused, in original boxes with lots of shipping labels on them.http://uk.farnell.com/cif/f31114/reflow-oven-190-x-290mm-230v/dp/1120351List price is crazy stupid, but does £400+VAT and shipping sound interesting to anybody? They are big and heavy so UK shipping £20, some EU countries £40 and others a lot more.VAT invoice supplied, can supply zero rated to EU buyers with a valid VAT number.ALL OVENS ARE SOLD

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2013, 07:44:25 pm
content: I want your job. Just saying.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2013, 07:51:40 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on November 13, 2013, 07:44:25 pmUntil you get a pile of orange boxed Tenma rubbish dumped on you!I might be having a Fluke selloff soon, yellow and black boxes are piling up

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2013, 07:53:27 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on November 13, 2013, 07:51:40 pmI'm totally okay with that. I'm a shooter.Quote*sigh*This wallet is forever going to be the opposite of me: slim.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2013, 08:10:56 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on November 13, 2013, 07:51:40 pmIf you're clearing Farnell's returns, have a word with them about the Flir i3's they're trying to shift - rumour has it they're open to offers as they're stopping selling Flir stuff (great timing guys!).

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2013, 08:45:33 pm
content: Would be nice to get some "discounted" TC's that came in as customer returns.Looks at limit on card and sighs at how little is left.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2013, 10:39:41 pm
content: Right, that's one of those ovens off to a new home.Any takers for the last one? I'll even throw in 0.5Kg of leaded solder paste

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2013, 12:18:26 am
content: I guess price and shipping to norway is sky high?

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2013, 12:21:24 am
content: Quote from: neslekkim on November 14, 2013, 12:18:26 amUPS £50, not so bad...?

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2013, 12:46:01 am
content: Not so bad, and I guess since I'm out of EU I don't pay VAT, since I need to pay VAT here (25%)

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2013, 10:15:06 am
content: Quote from: neslekkim on November 14, 2013, 12:46:01 amThat's right, no VAT to pay if I'm shipping it out of the EU. And if you want to pay tricks with the export documents then maybe not so much tax to pay in Norway either.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2013, 01:23:52 pm
content: Two sold, one off up to Scotland and one to Latvia.Just found another one in a really tatty box, they might not be the best reflow ovens in the world but the price is right!!Come on, somebody buy this one and clear some space for me to get more stuff out in the open!

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 18, 2013, 02:56:06 am
content: ALL OVENS ARE SOLD, THANK YOU

author: Wann
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 23, 2013, 11:15:59 am
content: Oven is here. Thank you TopLoser.Hell of an oven compared to the classical toaster oven trick.But you know French engineering when you see it

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 23, 2013, 11:37:44 am
content: Also received yesterday, thanks TopLoser. Soon will post teardown - rant - mod. That oven's design is deadly, stupid French jerks. By deadly I mean ~0,3 mm clearance between live mains and ground on controller PCB. Now going to the shop to buy some things for the mod.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 23, 2013, 12:11:57 pm
content: Careful in taking it apart. If French then the tools required will include at least a half dozen known as "Tool, Special" to undo fasteners placed in the most inappropriate locations buried deep under other parts that will only come off after you undo the buried fastener.Bad memories of inventory, 8 pages of "Tool, Special" that in some cases were a bent spanner. Friend had a 40 page inventory of the same, all with pretty much no identification on them other than a part number which mostly matched. He did a breakdown of use and got it down to 12 pages, returning to stores nearly a ton of assorted scrap metal. Pretty safe to return tools only used on a Buccaneer, Impala, Harvard or a Sabre as if one was to land there and needed a service they would fly in a crew with the tools anyway.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 23, 2013, 12:20:00 pm
content: Quote from: Wann on November 23, 2013, 11:15:59 amHmm.. I guess CIFs hardware is just as bad as their PCB material.

author: Balaur
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 23, 2013, 02:58:31 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on November 23, 2013, 11:37:44 amAt least it's not potato-based.

author: Wann
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2013, 12:38:14 am
content: Quote from: wraper on November 23, 2013, 11:37:44 amWhaaaatI noticed that the on/off button makes fantastic sparks when turning the oven off during heating. Those contacts are not gonna last long.I did consider to take the control board and replace it with a custom job. The temp profile seems a bit too simple for my taste.But now it even seems to be a necessityDo tell what you're up to with the safety mod.Quote from: nctnico on November 23, 2013, 12:20:00 pmI haven't stumbled onto CIF hardware or material before so have no idea.The oven is built like a tank and blinds you when turned on. So I guess it's good for Blitzkrieg

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2013, 02:13:52 am
content: Farnell/Element14 sells CIF pre-coated UV sensitive PCB material. Avoid it like the plague. I really don't understand why they even sell this crap. For some types the UV film is too thin, for others its too thick and almost always it contains spots.