uCurrent's now available again - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 17, 2011, 11:50:53 am
content: The latest batch is now available:http://www.eevblog.com/ucurrent/Follow the link to the shop.Dave.

author: Wartex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2011, 01:05:46 pm
content: Just bought one. Hopefully no shitty resistors this time.

author: sacherjj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2011, 01:54:38 pm
content: I had purchased nearly all the parts to make one, so I can fix it if I get a bad resistor.

author: dopplershift
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2011, 11:07:02 am
content: I also just bought one! I'm glad you did another batch Dave!One peculiar thing though: my order total was$56.45(including postage), but I see that PayPal has actually charged me$61.04! ($62.33 USD).Anyone else had something similar happen? Any ideas whats going on here?!

author: sacherjj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2011, 06:10:38 pm
content: Quote from: dopplershift on August 18, 2011, 11:07:02 amAustralian $ vs US $?

author: tekati
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2011, 10:24:14 pm
content: Sorry all just scored the last one!Thanks Dave!

author: tekati
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2011, 10:27:09 pm
content: Quote from: sacherjj on August 18, 2011, 06:10:38 pmSame here must be the case.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 18, 2011, 11:18:17 pm
content: Quote from: dopplershift on August 18, 2011, 11:07:02 amYes, the store prices are in Australian dollars.The shopping cart does a conversion based on the current exchange rate.I haven't figured out how to get Zencart to pass Australian dollars through to PayPal and let PayPal do the conversion.I also haven't figured out how to actually display that it's a Australian dollars on the store itself!DONE.ZenCart is not very intuitive...Dave.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 18, 2011, 11:21:31 pm
content: Yep it's exchange rate plus some financial institution gouging to make sure they skim a profit from the currency exchange.http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=56.45&From=AUD&To=USD<--- $58.xx at time of posting.It's so nice to (as an importer) have the rates in favour of the Aussie Dollar for this short while.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2011, 12:49:24 am
content: Wow - sold out already? I might be in for on on the next batch!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2011, 06:55:33 am
content: Quote from: george graves on August 19, 2011, 12:49:24 amNo, this run has 50 units. I only put 25 up first. The rest will go up soon.Dave.

author: Elandril
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2011, 08:31:45 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 19, 2011, 06:55:33 amOh, so I was quite lucky to snatch one of the first batch... well to be honest, I immediately went to the shop when I saw the raw video online (which I truly enjoyed watching)!Btw, Dave, will you be doing a fault finding episode for the failed uCurrents? That would be really great!

author: mosrob
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 22, 2011, 09:30:41 pm
content: Are all 50 units sold or is the second batch of 25 units still to come?

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 22, 2011, 10:45:30 pm
content: Quote from: mosrob on August 22, 2011, 09:30:41 pmScroll back to Dave's last post here. Two before yours.

author: jsoderquist
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2011, 01:00:19 am
content: Next batch please!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 02, 2011, 04:53:00 am
content: Next batch is now available on the shop.Dave.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 17, 2011, 06:51:28 pm
content: I received mine in Chile two days ago. It is a nice little instrument that just works. You do nice design work Dave.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2011, 06:36:43 am
content: Ok, bump and subscribed this thread for next batch.

author: mosrob
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 29, 2011, 01:15:41 pm
content: Any further µCurrent boxes to come?Don't forget: X-Mas is in about two months...

author: Kozmyk
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2011, 03:03:38 pm
content: Me too.Where do I sign?

author: WattSekunde
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2011, 10:37:01 am
content: Me too.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2011, 10:47:41 am
content: They are on the truck back from the assemblers.Might get hectic though, new lab handover scheduled for the same time...Dave.

author: WattSekunde
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2011, 06:21:34 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 10, 2011, 10:47:41 amI don't need it as a X-Mas present. Take your time!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 07:30:09 am
content: Ok, they are now available againhttp://www.eevblog.com/shopSorry for the delay, the new lab kinda upset things.Dave.

author: caroper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 09:11:51 am
content: Do you only accept Paypal?We have issues with PayPal accounts in South Africa, they will only deal with one Bank, which is not the one I bank with.I was going to use MasterCard but can only find a PayPal option.CheersChris

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 09:21:14 am
content: PayPal in the US acts as a card processor and allows you to make a one-time payment by credit card if you don't have a PayPal account. Is the same not true in South Africa? That would be a pain if so.

author: Chet T16
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 09:40:21 am
content: Its certainly true for the UK/IrelandI had trouble using paypal without registering an account, i couldn't select a shipping option.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 09:56:03 am
content: Thanks Dave, done with order number 95.Guys, the stock number before I ordered was 25, and now after I pressed the confirmation button is at 23, hurry, it won't last long there.Btw, just curious Dave, does current latest batch has the same pcb revision as previous batch ? Did you assemble it your self ?

author: McMonster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 10:06:50 am
content: I've checked the shipping cost and time to Poland out of curiosity and it told me 1 day estimate delivery. Australian post must have some very fast boats there.

author: caroper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 10:09:36 am
content: I used to have a PayPal account, I was one of the early adopters, BUT, having a PayPal account now work's against me.A few years ago PayPal put a blanket ban on all transactions with Africa, we have the Nigerians to blame for that. If you already had an account, you could continue to make payments but not receive payment. After 9/11 the South African reserve Bank put a ban on PayPal payments, siting Money laundering concerns and International law. In reality it was an exchange Control Restriction.PayPal then reached an agreement with Reserve bank and one of the local banks and allowed South Africans to Open PayPal accounts via that bank only.The problem is I already had a PayPal account and so can not open one even though I opened an account at that bank especially to do so.I am now stuck with funds in an old account that i can not get out or spend, am paying bank charges for an account i can not use, and if i try and pay via Credit Card on a Paypal portal it sees my old account, tries to use it, and the lets me i cant because of international restrictions on Africa.Bottom Line is I do many online transactions but all via MasterCard/VeriSign.PayPal are on my blacklist as Gougers. Even if I could use them I won't as I would then pay them a cut, master card a cut, the south African bank a cut and the reserve bank a cut, then i have import duties and sales taxes. It works out at over 100% transaction fees vs +-5% via Master Card direct.The Joys of Online Shopping.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 10:44:19 am
content: Quote from: caroper on December 29, 2011, 09:11:51 amYes, sorry.You don't need a PayPal account to pay by PayPal, they will process your card without joining.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 10:49:51 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on December 29, 2011, 09:56:03 amYes, same PCB as previous lots.A guy in Melbourne assembles the boards for me. I put in the battery, screw together, test, and pack'n'post.Dave.

author: caroper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 10:55:36 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 29, 2011, 10:44:19 amNo they won't, not for Africa, see my previous post

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 11:58:14 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on December 29, 2011, 09:56:03 am10 left.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 12:09:58 pm
content: Quote from: caroper on December 29, 2011, 10:09:36 amAnd let me guess, every time you send PayPal a complaint about it they answer with a totally useless form letter?It is sad to see that PayPal is the same scum all over the world. Here in Europe they were registered in Wales for providing financial services, but got cold feet, moved and instead managed to get a banking license from the corrupt country of Luxembourg - famous for supporting money laundry and providing a safe haven for tax evaders, dictators, drug and arms dealers and organized crime all around the world. You are known by your company ...To make complaints difficult PayPal then claims that most of what they do is in fact not banking business, although they have that banking license, so the Luxembourg banking "regulators" (motto 'looking away since the middle ages'), are not responsible. PayPal points you to some obscure ombudsman in the UK (not in Luxembourg) then, giving you the runaround. This ombudsman is of course payed by PayPal. And there are reports that when you dare to contact the ombudsman that PayPal sends out the dept collectors to teach you a lesson and really drive the message home.What I hate most is when buying is when the seller offers payment via credit card, and then it turns out during checkout that it is only credit card via PayPal. PayPal here has the scum tactic of only allowing a limited number of credit card payments via PayPal for non-members. After you have exceeded that limited number they claim you must sign up for PayPal. So you e.g. won an eBay auction and are faced with either an eBay non-payment dispute or signing up for PayPal against your will. Of course PayPal doesn't tell you how large that limited number is, and how much you have already used up. So paying via credit card as a non-member is like playing Russian Roulette.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 12:40:54 pm
content: I used to use PayMate. I might try and see if I can use them again with my new shopping cart.Dave.

author: reagle
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 01:00:20 pm
content: 7 left

author: joelby
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 03:29:29 pm
content: Unfortunately the costs of setting up a 'proper' merchant account that allows Internet credit card processing in Australia are very high - $1000ish setup and a lot of paperwork, and $100+ a month in fees. PayPal and Paymate are pretty much the only cheap options, and they're both terrible.

author: DaMaDo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 03:38:51 pm
content: Wish I didn't wake up so late, all sold out it seems =(

author: wardenclyffe
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 03:54:12 pm
content: Quote from: DaMaDo on December 29, 2011, 03:38:51 pmNOOOOOOOOO!!!

author: Chet T16
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 04:52:32 pm
content: There was 33+ this morning when I looked which was about half 7 gmt.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 06:33:37 pm
content: its sold out. Dave, its 3X (probably more) the production cost right? why dont you make a batch 3X more in volume, say you are planning to make 10 unit in a batch, make it 30! when 10X are sold out, you already break even (build another 30 with it and now you have 50 unit in stock! 20 left in stock while waiting for the next batch, will never be out of stock!). sure there's more will come to buy and thats the profit! this is the third time i went there just to see the "sold out" tagthink corporate Dave, think corporate.

author: Armin_Balija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 06:45:52 pm
content: Dave do you have a paypal to take donations?

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 08:53:04 pm
content: It's in the sidebar on the right oneevblog.com.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 09:34:42 pm
content: Quote from: joelby on December 29, 2011, 03:29:29 pmI don't really do enough business to justify a proper merchant account, and can do without yet another thing to setup and manage.I want to run a blog, not a trading businessDave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 09:56:56 pm
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on December 29, 2011, 06:33:37 pmI don't make as much on this kit as I normally would, I never geared it for large volumes. Each one is hand soldered, and parts are all Digikey etc for convenience. So without additional production engineering work, the price doesn't really come down with a larger volume at the moment.I've actually been caught with this unit not selling before, hence my reluctance to do a large run.For all I know, the apparent popularity might be just that, apparent. If I do a run of 100-200 I might get stuck holding the bag...I might look into a sign-up thing, but those aren't terribly accurate. And of course, I don't like taking people's money with back-orders without having anything to ship.Dave.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 11:34:21 pm
content: i didnt ask you to do 100-200 unitand i didnt ask you for price reduction. say now, what was that? 33 unit sold out? iirc someone earlier counting. like a hot cake? now you have money+profit whatever it is. if you priced based on 3X rule, thats mean you have the money to produce 3x33=99 unit now, without additional "capital injection". about the "holding the bag" thing, isnt it nice to have more parts in your drawer/stock?ps: and this 33 units are from this latest batch, not counting from previous batch, where's the money now dave? hawaii?kidding. thing got more popular like someone said in another thread, its all about popularity that sales/matters. my 2cnts.and i havent seen you sell in ebay (or alibaba)

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2011, 11:53:49 pm
content: googling it, i think you got a cloner now... dont let the China catches you! dont let it be the tvbgone case (at least the guy sold millions is it?)http://www.reddit.com/r/PCBDesignReview/comments/mxb3u/pcb_review_of_opencurrent/

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2011, 08:54:47 am
content: DavePlease count me for 1 (one) uCurrent out of the next batch. I was at work and they are gone again. I looked at your shop twice a day and still missed out, damn. I'll pre-pay, that way you will build more and I don't have to worry about getting mine. I trust you to ship it when its done. No trouble, let me (us) know...Happy New YearsChris

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2011, 09:24:03 am
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on December 29, 2011, 11:53:49 pmAh, so it is, a straight clone.Dave.

author: tbscope
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2011, 09:41:12 am
content: Isn't it possible to have something like Sparkfun (or similar) build the uCurrent's under license? Or let them buy a batch of 100.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2011, 10:04:43 am
content: Quote from: tbscope on December 30, 2011, 09:41:12 amIt wouldn't be worth my while, there is not enough margin in it.Dave.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2011, 10:09:30 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 29, 2011, 10:49:51 amReally glad to hear that all of them are tested by yourself, looking forward to receive it soon, thanks.

author: jerry507
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2011, 06:19:04 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 29, 2011, 09:56:56 pmThis is a sign of an honest man of course, but I think when you're to the point where you have people DONATING money to you it's a safe time to assume you can do backorders. The more I think about it the more of a hassle it becomes though. If you have some magic quantity that feels good to you (33? or whatever) then perhaps you can do a signup sheet until you get to that number and make an order. Even if 50% of the people never actually respond to buy one, the quantity is small enough it's not a big deal to sell them again.Jerry

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2011, 10:43:31 pm
content: Quote from: jerry507 on December 30, 2011, 06:19:04 pmIt's also a logistical and hassle thing.When you have people's money and they are waiting for goods in return, you get emails all the time asking when it will be available, and to provide a date etc. You get hassled. I don't like to get hassled.Dave.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2011, 05:08:50 am
content: Teaser pics stolen from Dave , so its 50 on every batch ? Wonder which is mine ?Btw, Happy New Year !

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2011, 06:32:00 am
content: I've just ordered another 50.Dave.

author: WattSekunde
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2011, 04:24:11 pm
content: Unbelievable ... I was out some days and now all sold out!Wow!I try it on the next batch.Happy New Year to all!Michael.

author: caroper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2012, 01:57:00 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 30, 2011, 10:43:31 pmIn the Board Game Publishing industry they have something called P500 that has become popular.basically they post information on all the games that they are thinking of producing.People then pledge to buy a particular game.The First one to reach 500 Pledges gets published first, etc.When you pledge, you give your Credit Card info, but the card is not debited until production starts.You can bail out prior tp production and you are advised when production will start.If you stay in you get a discount that normally covers the shipping cost.It is a win Win situation for the Board Game industry, not sure how it would carry over to Electronics, take it as food for thought.CheersChris

author: Chet T16
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2012, 02:04:19 am
content: Quote from: caroper on January 01, 2012, 01:57:00 amwww.kickstarter.com?

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2012, 04:40:03 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 31, 2011, 06:32:00 amhow long expected lead time? i want to set my alarm here (and then hit F5)pls do tell/update us when its arrived. kudos.

author: reagle
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2012, 05:11:52 pm
content: oh there was plenty of hints this time- when the boards arrived, when they went to assembler, when they were being tested

author: robrenz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2012, 05:52:15 pm
content: I checked every day and still missed them. they were gone in less than 24hrs

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2012, 07:54:57 pm
content: Maybe Dave should order higher quantities the next time, when his lab is finished. He'll probably have plenty of room to store them on that lab.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 02, 2012, 08:36:50 pm
content: Post office is open again today, so will be able to post all the ones recently ordered. Sorry the delay, new years does that.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 05, 2012, 06:40:29 am
content: I now have 15 more units available:http://www.eevblog.com/2012/01/05/more-%c2%b5currents-available/Dave.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2012, 06:53:26 am
content: Wow.. they're gone so fast, I guess Dave's server was hammered really hard during that short period eh ?Anyway, congratz for those winners.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 16, 2012, 06:22:49 am
content: More in stock again right NOW.The other half will go on sale 9am Sydney time tomorrow (Tues)If these sell like hot cakes I'll take names and get enough made for next time.Dave.

author: vk6hdx
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2012, 07:04:24 am
content: Thanks Dave, I got one this timeYAY

author: Chet T16
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2012, 08:37:16 am
content: Dave, dunno if you're aware but alternatezone.com (at so the ucurrent pics/article) is down

author: Teknotronix
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2012, 01:43:59 pm
content: Cheers Dave!

author: Armin_Balija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2012, 06:45:55 pm
content: That's really strange because alternatezone.com works fine for me.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2012, 07:13:02 pm
content: Quote from: Armin_Balija on January 16, 2012, 06:45:55 pmIt seems it was offline only for a short while for maintenance.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2012, 07:16:02 pm
content: now economical downturn hit me, but dont worry dave, i sure buy this one day, so dont worry about excess stock.

author: WattSekunde
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2012, 11:35:36 pm
content: 33 ;-)Thank you Dave!And special thanks to mosrob!Regards,Michael

author: elCap
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2012, 12:21:30 am
content: I just ordered one! Now I just have to find a use for it.. build some battery powered stuff or something..

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2012, 08:54:50 am
content: dave, can you build the constant load as well, and other stuffs/kits you are planning so people can combine and save on shipping cost? just a thought.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 17, 2012, 09:54:52 am
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on January 17, 2012, 08:54:50 amI'd love to have a whole line of kits and products, unfortunately it's quite time consuming to produce a good kit.Dave.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2012, 06:48:57 pm
content: yes, take your time.

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2012, 07:17:49 pm
content: Well, its seems that I have missed out again! I was at work as usual.Chris

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2012, 07:21:40 pm
content: Holy mackerel! The stock really is down to zero again.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 17, 2012, 09:59:59 pm
content: Quote from: IanB on January 17, 2012, 07:21:40 pmNo I need a way for people to sign up.Have installed phpList, but it sucks.I need something that allows people to sign up and have it display a public counter on the site.Any idea?Dave.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 17, 2012, 10:17:48 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 17, 2012, 09:59:59 pmWould be some trivial PHP/Mysql code but if you don't want to bother with something custom, try one of the many help desk packages available. These could easily be utilised and would prioritise/totalise requests by category and allow for some simple manipulation and viewing of single and bulk replies.

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2012, 10:20:23 pm
content: Dave, have you cross checked the shipping addresses? Maybe someone orders every time.Alexander.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 05:42:28 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on December 29, 2011, 09:56:03 amIt arrived safely today, and actually its smaller than I thought, maybe all this time those videos gave me the wrong impression.I know this sounds silly, but since these thing sold like hot cakes, maybe we should start a ucurrent fans club ? or maybe a tear down photo ? ..j/k...Anyway, thanks Dave !Here, your proof of receipt !

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 08:16:12 am
content: Dear Dave:--Considering how long you have been selling these, without a price rise, the first thing you should do is institute a price increase. Your cost cannot have gone down, since you started making these. If you make more money, you will have greater motivation to make the next kit. Besides, Sagan needs new shoes."If you build a better mousetrap, you will catch better mice."George Gobel 1919 1991Best RegardsClear Ether

author: Chet T16
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 08:36:41 am
content: Mine also arrived (from the last batch) a couple of days ago. Haven't used it but it turns on so thats good. Bit of a smudge on the silkscreen but its fine

author: Teknotronix
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 08:56:04 am
content: Received mine today too. Thanks Dave!

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 09:58:45 am
content: Dave,My uCurrent had a mis-aligned spacing between the banana connectors at both pairs, not a big deal actually and really easy to fix.Since you assembled them all by yourself, just a suggestion, on the next batch, before fastening the bolts under those banana connectors, insert a common dual male banana binding post to align them at the correct spacing at 3/4".Attached picture below to show the details.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 10:06:31 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on January 18, 2012, 09:58:45 amThat's surprising, I thought those were effectively self aligning.I don't assemble the board, it's my assembler in Melbourne, Vutronics.Thanks.Dave.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 10:14:36 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 18, 2012, 10:06:31 amNo problem, glad could help on next batch. Just show them that photo.Maybe the drilled hole is tad bigger than the connector, so its possible for them to wiggle a bit left or right during the fastening process.

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 10:35:20 pm
content: Is uCurrent design idea suitable for K type thermocouple measurements?Alexander.

author: Wartex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 11:05:23 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 17, 2012, 09:54:52 amYeah, it's not like you have a kid to raise or something, and you bathe in cash. I told you a year ago that uCurrents will fly off the shelf and you responded that no one wants them and takes a long time to make bla bla bla. People are literally stuffing money into your pocket and you have the motivation of a retired unionized electrician. You have an opportunity to make massive amounts of money and make a lot of people happy, and you are throwing it away. uCurrents are too damn cheap that's why they sell so fast. Keep raising the price until the demand levels with production speed. Make new kits! Don't be lazy.

author: Kozmyk
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 11:21:34 pm
content: Mine arrived yesterday.18 days Oz to Wales, not so bad. 8^)Thanks Dave

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2012, 11:25:53 pm
content: Quote from: Wartex on January 18, 2012, 11:05:23 pmYou are always welcome to "have a go" at doing it better, should you be unhappy. It's Dave's business to run as he sees fit. There is no obligation and always the option of going elsewhere to the consumer. You can only be guessing at what Dave makes from these things, at what his cash flow is like, at what time he has available for each area of business and any number of other decisions he has to encounter. It's his business to prosper or fail as he decides, offer advice sure, but unless your prepared to invest in a way he finds acceptable, you are in no position to demand how things should be run.Funny how the people with ALL the answers so often cut hair or drive Taxi Cabs!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 19, 2012, 02:42:15 am
content: Quote from: Wartex on January 18, 2012, 11:05:23 pmI have been selling uCurrent for years, and that comment was made based on previous sales which were very slow.The sudden "frenzy" is quite surprising.And don't thick it was early lack of marketing either. I've had the uCurrent as a feature construction article in both Silicon Chip and Elektor magazines, and yet sales were still very slow.QuoteSo I'm going to make "massive" amounts of money selling uCurrent's huh?Care to predict how many I'm going to sell from now?I am making new kits, but I want to have a life too, I'm not going to spend every day and every night and weekend working on designing, producing, packing and shipping kits.Designing and producing a good quality kit does take a lot of time and effort, which is why I'm not suddenly and magically going to have a raft of kits to sell. Show me a kit you have designed produced and sold, and then I might actually take your opinion seriously.Dave.

author: jerry507
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2012, 10:05:55 am
content: Dave,Hire Wartex to assemble all the kits and let him pocket the difference in shipping cost from AU-US vs US-US. That's probably a decent figure alone and he can find out how amazingly fun it is to build a bunch of uCurrents.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 19, 2012, 10:24:00 am
content: Quote from: jerry507 on January 19, 2012, 10:05:55 amI doubt he'd be interested. he'd probably say:Quotehttp://www.reddit.com/r/PCBDesignReview/comments/mxb3u/pcb_review_of_opencurrent/Dave.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 19, 2012, 11:27:33 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 19, 2012, 10:24:00 amWTF?

author: Armin_Balija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2012, 11:43:21 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 19, 2012, 10:24:00 amSorry I went off on him like that Dave.Cheers.

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 19, 2012, 11:59:21 am
content: Greetings EEVBees:--Apparently other forums are all suffering this infestation of late. Ridex and 10 foot poles all around. You fellows had better be careful though. Fudd is pwobabwy getting weawy weawy angwee. Soon he will be posting in huge fonts and insulting his critics on the basis of nationality. One hopes, though, that he does not go away angwee."There once was a spammer named Wartex,Whose mind was pulled into the vortex.His rage was so manic,He'd post fonts gigantic,To ease the great hate in his cortex.Gator Dundee 1948 -Best RegardsClear Ether

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 19, 2012, 10:50:23 pm
content: Quote from: firewalker on January 18, 2012, 10:35:20 pmThermocouples produce a voltage, not a current, and I believe they have a fairly high output impedance. Doesn't sound like a good match for the µCurrent to me.

author: Wartex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 03:54:50 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 19, 2012, 10:24:00 amYes I said that. Sorry to disappoint you Dave, I have no emotional attachment to you and don't idolize you like some people here. I respect you for your knowledge and experience but I'm not going to discourage a kid who took time to make a gerber of your PCB just because god forbid he might distribute it and you miss out on millions of dollars. I assure you that you make more money than most kids on this forum, trust me. The diagram is published so it's not like violated your copyright. If someone took time to make gerber of your PCB you should be proud.I'm sure you make a pretty penny on ads and donations (otherwise you would find another job if you have common sense), probably more than some people earn with their hands. I highly doubt you would settle for 1/10th of your previous income. I offered to help you with web programming in your first days (and you refused saying you can handle it), I bought your uCurrent instead of soldering my own, so it's not like I'm a selfish asshole. The kid on Reddit wasn't making any money off it has no need to feel sorry for you. If you feel you have been somehow wronged, patent your uCurrent.You are a cool guy but I'm not your personal internet bodyguard. I was trying to encourage you to make some cool products, that's all.PS: If you keep the price the same, I predict you will sell ALL the uCurrents.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 04:35:33 am
content: Wartex, I can't figure out what's bugging you, but not a word of that makes any sense

author: Armin_Balija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 05:00:17 am
content: Quote from: Wartex on January 20, 2012, 03:54:50 amActually by your post it seems like you kind of dislike Dave or are even jealous of him. Telling people on a random board that Dave can pretty much "Fuck himself" is pretty rude and sad. Why do you feel like you're so much above the people on these boards? I really don't know why but it seems like someone took a shit in your cereal.How can you say you respect someone but behind their back say things like that. I'm truly stunned at the size of your ego my friend. If I was a christian I'd say something like "I'll pray for you."

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 05:01:50 am
content: Quote from: IanB on January 20, 2012, 04:35:33 amAspergers?

author: Wartex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 06:27:08 am
content: Quote from: Uncle Vernon on January 20, 2012, 05:01:50 amYou are a psychiatrist now? Read the original reddit thread and you will get it.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 07:12:05 am
content: Quote from: Wartex on January 20, 2012, 03:54:50 amWhen did I ever say I wasn't happy with it?The project is (undeclared) OSHW, and I encourage people to do that.In fact, I think that guy actually asked my permission to do it (a few have done that, so can't recall exactly if it was him), and I said fine of course because it was in fact OSHW.Dave.

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 11:27:28 am
content: Greetings EEVBees:--I had no idea that niche devices like the uCurrent were so lucrative, or that advertisement and donation income is such a gold mine, but in view of Fudd's statements about pretty pennies and millions of dollars, maybe our favorite "running dog capitalist" needs to consider an IPO. It worked of Gates and Jobs.--Seriously, though, we may be dealing here with an elevator does not go all the way to the top. We all know how DJ feels about open sourcing, patents, etc. He has stated his position on these matters repeatedly. Now, Fudd states "F**k him, he makes money hand over fist on youtube ads." And when he receives a gentle admonishment, he then assumes that DJ is greedy and is jealous of a competing open source product, and not just reacting to rudeness, profanity, hostility, and disrespect. This indicates the six pack may be a can or two short.--In the recent contretemps wherein our gracious host was forced to employ the pooper scooper and per force to send an offending brother to Coventry, I am sure he thought long and hard before acting. I cannot but conclude that perhaps he did not cast the loop quite large enough. In any case I will keep a weather eye to the WSJ for headlines like "uCurrent Imitator Overnight Millionaire""I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled."P. G. Wodehouse 1881 1975Best RegardsClear Ether

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 11:53:19 am
content: Quote from: SgtRock on January 20, 2012, 11:27:28 amYou got that one spot on.QuoteYes, that was tough, and I really hated doing itI like people who produce content, and he produced a lot of good content.To his credit, I heard no complaints over the banishment.Dave.

author: Armin_Balija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 12:27:30 pm
content: If you don't mind me asking what was the reason? He seemed like an OK fellow.. I was gone for about a month so if it happened in that time i must've missed it.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 12:36:29 pm
content: Quote from: Armin_Balija on January 20, 2012, 12:27:30 pmThe reasons were many.Basically it came down to that he started and/or contributed to the majority of arguments and personal attacks on the forum, and would not leave it be when asked to stop.He had been warned on numerous occasions, and has been banned from several other forums for the same thing.In the end it just got too much, and it was clear he was not going to stop, and there were many calls from members to take action. Orders of magnitude more complaints than about anyone else on the forum. So it was clear who was affecting the overall SNR.He was afforded a lot of slack because of his good contributions, but there is a line he ultimately crossed, and he knew it.Dave.

author: mobbarley
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 12:58:09 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 20, 2012, 12:36:29 pmengineer forum...oh crap - I said the 'e' word...

author: Wartex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 03:49:49 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 20, 2012, 07:12:05 amDave, when I said "fuck him" I meant "don't worry about Dave he will be just fine without you asking, do your own thing". I didn't mean "I hope he goes bankrupt and dies in a car fire". You seem too have taken offence to this and I can see it from your perspective but it's wasn't my intent.I wish you the best and again encourage you to make new products (family first of course), I'll definitely buy your stuff to help out just for the heck of soldering it together. If you need the NA distributor I can help with that too for a small share of the sale, post office is 5 mins from me. I can assemble kits too if you send me the parts. I sell shit on eBay and ship electronic gear internationally all the time.I may be abrasive at times but I'm not an asshole without principles like some people make me out to be.PS: I was glad you banned Kiriakos but then next day felt bad about it. He sure was quick to whip out the personal attacks but I think there was a way to straighten him out without the ban... I also think some of the mods you appointed are not really mod material... just my 2 cents.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2012, 07:13:35 pm
content: ok offtopic. semantics 101: when i say u an arsehole, i mean... i like you!Kiri got banned?! poor guy. less fun here

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 23, 2012, 11:41:26 am
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on January 23, 2012, 11:16:41 amYes, currently rendering a whole 1 hour video on DFM for the next uCurrent batch.Probably a duplicate of my previous DFM PCB video, but this time it's me mumbling for an hour about the uCurrent insteadDave.

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 23, 2012, 01:42:09 pm
content: Greetings EEVBees:--Has any one besides me noticed that two of our most prominent trolls, Frick and Fudd, having managed to survive the Mr. K imbroglio (by the skin of their teeth) are now honing their assegais for Mr. EEV. Didee take their lolly or sumat?"You get what you need, but you lose what you had."Mick Jagger 1943 -Best RegardsClear Ether

author: Armin_Balija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2012, 06:51:45 pm
content: Quote from: SgtRock on January 23, 2012, 01:42:09 pmI didn't understand a word of that haha. You lost me at Mr. K.

author: Wartex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2012, 10:01:33 pm
content: Quote from: SgtRock on January 23, 2012, 01:42:09 pmLol do you have anything of value to contribute other than your unfunny and flaccid jokes? Seriously, I might have posted some controversial topics and got into arguments (which generated some valid discussions BTW), but I don't stalk people in every thread with retarded nonsense. Do you think that libel you write is clever? It's not. It's absurd. You look like a suck-up to "upper management" by doing this. You troll and instigate flame wars and then sit back in mirth and look at the destruction. I'm not going to be part of your little game.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 24, 2012, 10:24:33 pm
content: Quote from: Wartex on January 24, 2012, 10:01:33 pmWhy reply? A reaction, any reaction, is what is being sought. Use ignore!

author: jerry507
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2012, 11:14:59 pm
content: Quote from: Wartex on January 24, 2012, 10:01:33 pmI don't actually quite understand much of what he said, so while I'm not going to echo your words, you might be onto something...

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2012, 03:15:22 am
content: Greetings EEVBees:--Those who think I am sucking up to management should read the posts on nuclear energy, energy policy, George Bush, et. al. There is a common factor in my criticism of Frick, Frack and Fudd. And that is that they all have, at one time or another, attacked the Country of Origin of the person they disagreed with. In my opinion this is akin to, and may even be racism. It is a marked escalation from the mere "personal attack".--If I were to quote the many instances of Frick holding forth, not only you the gentle reader possibly be made nauseous, and appalled at the extremeness of the hostility, but probably the thread would be edited or locked by management, and a yellow card issued. Frick is quite knowledgeable, but quite touchy.--I, once, admonished Frack for attacking someone on the basis of national origin. For this he sent me a PM accusing me of "regurgitating tripe such as your intelect [his spelling] can generate", and informing me that I was now on his ignore list. Since then every time he see me quoted, he fails to ignore me, replies to me, and begs everyone to put me on their ignore list. Subsequent to our first encounter, I have occasionally made favorable comments about and his posts, but of course, unless they are quoted, he cannot see them, "He is under the Haystack, Fast asleep", and he "hate's it for ever and ever" Frack is intelligent, knowledgeable, and often funny.--With regard to Fudd; the comments applying to posts by Frick would also apply, and although Fudd has fewer posts, he tries harder. He accuses entire nations of being perverts. He has achieved the distinction of having his posts subject to the pooper scooper. In this very thread he has made unjust, and unkind accusations against someone and has said "F**k him". Then when is is criticized, he accuses people of starting flame wars. At the moment I do not recall anything I enjoyed about his posts."I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled."P. G. Wodehouse 1881 1975Best RegardsClear Ether

author: jerry507
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2012, 05:38:04 am
content: Quote from: SgtRock on January 25, 2012, 03:15:22 amIt might be that it's 11:35 CDT, but there is just too much overly dramatic language there. I skimmed over the first 2 paragraphs and the just skipped the rest. I have no idea who Frick, Frack and Fudd are. Attacking someone based on nationality is stupid, I agree. Why not just say that? Wartex obviously trolls too, like that youtube video with the series leds and the battery. Just how he phrases it riles people up. I think that largely summed up what you said but in words people actually (might) bother reading.

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2012, 02:41:53 pm
content: Quote from: Wartex on January 24, 2012, 10:01:33 pmYou start your argument with "lol".You have the audacity to say "fuck him" to Dave in the context of supporting someone ripping off his idea and then still hang around these forums.You feel as if you have the authority to make the comment "he makes money hand over fist on youtube ads" when you have no idea how very little income Dave (or anyone on Youtube) actually gets from ad revenue. Let's not even consider the fact that he deserves whatever money he gets as a reward for years of effort building his blog.You act like a wanker on another part of the Internet and now you're scurrying to defend yourself because, surprise, you're not the only one who reads Reddit.Dave's next video should be on how to run the internet kindergarten.(You should really reconsider how far you want to push Dave. So far he has been incredibly lenient so far. Do not abuse this.)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 03, 2012, 03:54:55 am
content: The new uCurrent rev3 panel being manufactured by CircuitLabs!Dave.

author: mobbarley
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2012, 06:30:34 am
content: did you go for a factory tour or were they just nice enough to send you a pic? I love panellised pcbs - they just look great

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 03, 2012, 06:32:24 am
content: Quote from: mobbarley on February 03, 2012, 06:30:34 amBit far to NZ for a tour. But they shot some video for me, so will get that and upload.Dave.

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2012, 03:31:29 pm
content: That is too cool!I may have a chance this time to buy one.I see that you took my advice, "panelise and be done."Looks like about 200 individual boards there? Are they all spoken for yet?Cant wait to see the videos...Chris

author: PedroDiogo
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2012, 07:56:19 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 03, 2012, 03:54:55 amCool! Is it me or they seem bright red like the ones you had from PCBCart?Also, what is the machine in the background doing? Automated testing?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 03, 2012, 11:10:29 pm
content: Quote from: PedroDiogo on February 03, 2012, 07:56:19 pmI was surprised to see that the do look like the bright red PCBcart ones. Maybe it's just the photo?QuoteSome sort of router/drill I suspect, as you can see the panel in there has only a couple of the connector holes drilled.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 03, 2012, 11:11:14 pm
content: Quote from: dcel on February 03, 2012, 03:31:29 pmNo, I made extra.Dave.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2012, 04:03:49 am
content: Damn, now I want that gold plated versio after you posted the teaser pic.

author: pachuma
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 09:29:35 pm
content: They look very cool!When will they be available? Working on an ultra low power transceiver board and accurate measurements on consumption would be very useful.I've silently being following Dave for quite a while on his blog, so I hope that by getting one will also support the activity.Nice one mate!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 10:09:50 pm
content: Last part due in today. And just waiting for the assembler to final quote.Dave.

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2012, 10:29:02 am
content: Thanks for the updates Dave. Patiently waiting to get my hands on one! Maybe two!Just picked up a Hakko FX-888 and used it tonight, then bought another. They are powerful, fast little stations.Just outta curiosity, how many µCurrents are pre-sold registered?Chris

author: pachuma
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2012, 03:45:01 pm
content: Patiently waiting...

author: MysticPixel
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 12:23:33 am
content: Just found this thread after I ordered some parts to breadboard one up myself! I guess I'll stick around and see if I can snag one this time... but in the meantime I'll ask the question I came for:Dave (or anyone else who cares to help) - DigiKey is fresh out of theLMV321AS5Xand they won't have more until August (!!!) But, I was digging in my op-amp box and found aLMV321M5. I did a diff on the datasheets and the majority of the specs appear to be comparable, the only differences are:Input Bias Current & Input Offset Current:-AS5X (Fairchild) says "<1 nA" with a note "CMOS leakage is too small to practically measure", whereas the -M5 (NatSemi) says 11nA, 5nA. Thought this just seemed like a case of either someone being lazy or someone else just making things up, but wasn't sure how if this would have any effect. I'd think that practically, both would be "essentially zero", but then again this is a device intended to measure tiny currents, so...Output Voltage Swing:Datasheets measure it differently but I think it comes out to basically the same thing, just confusing.Other than that, all the specs are reasonably close - so I'm thinking it would be OK to substitute the NatSemi LMV321M5 instead?Thanks! I'll keep an eye out for the assembled boards, I was trying to build one b/c I needed it soon and didn't know there was another build going. Would still like to know about the substitution though.UPDATEnevermind - search before posting, duh! Think this gives me what I need to know:Quote from: EEVblog on January 29, 2010, 02:17:10 amWorks for me!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 01:11:21 am
content: Quote from: pachuma on February 19, 2012, 03:45:01 pmYeah, so am I!This whole automated assembly thing has been horribly slow to happenI'm supposed to be getting 50 units tomorrow, with the remainder "early next week".I was going to trial using ebay ad clickandsend.com as the selling system, but it has been nothing but a nightmare. Their system could be fundamentally broken.Anyway, all things going to plan, I should be able to list 50 units this weekend.Dave.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 01:29:51 am
content: I guess you are talking about Australia Post "Click and Send"http://auspost.com.au/clickandsend/index.html , notclickandsend.com.Definitely sounds like the way to go, but Australia Post do not seem to be nearly as organized as the US postal service version - they even give you a an electronic scale to automatically enter the parcel weight!Hope you can get it going. It is crazy queueing up at the post office to do all the labels, stamps and customs declarations.Richard.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 02:09:57 am
content: Quote from: amspire on April 05, 2012, 01:29:51 amWell, I think it will work, but now I'm looking at the horrible new 7.9% ebay final selling fee + listing fee, it's over 10%That's makes it worthwhile lining up at the post office again!Dave.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 02:25:22 am
content: You can use Click and Send without using eBay at all. The service is nothing to with eBay. eBay just have a convenient link to the Australian Post system.You could establish eevBay.com and charge yourself a 10% commission.Richard.

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 02:36:22 am
content: Just read your twitter feed and the frustrations you're having with ebay/clickandsend. eBay's webpages for listing items is terribly hopeless in any browser except internet explorer. I don't have too many issues using chrome, but if you try and add photos using the advanced thingy (the default...) its usually fails dramatically.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 03:33:20 am
content: Quote from: amspire on April 05, 2012, 02:25:22 amThat's the whole point of it.You can use clickandsend manually, but unless you can automate the data input (like ebay does) there is no benefit to it.No other shopping cart systems support clickandsend, it's an exclusive deal with ebay.Dave.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 04:08:48 am
content: I haven't seen the Australia Post Click and Send software. It would be nice to think you could import names, addresses, etc from a spreadsheet, but perhaps they force you to type everything in manually.If there is any kind of import ability, then you could find a way to get data from a shop page on your website to Click and Send.I wonder if they have an API?Richard.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 04:17:44 am
content: Looks like Australia Post have an eParcel system that does allow import of data.http://auspost.com.au/business/eparcel.htmlThe catch is you have to agree to send more then 1000 parcels per year."Click and Send" is a lower level service with no minimum requirements.If you can sell over 1000 items, I assume eParcel is the better service.There is a "Delivery Choice API" that you can register to get and I assume this works with both Click and Send and eParcel.http://auspost.com.au/devcentre/integration-checklist.aspSo theoretically, you can integrate any sales systems into the Australia Post electronic parcel systems.Richard.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 05:53:26 am
content: Quote from: amspire on April 05, 2012, 04:08:48 amYes, you can import items. This might be an avenue, but it's kinda messy.QuoteThey do, but it's not available, it's ebay exclusive.None of the Oz shopping carts are allowed to have it.Dave.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 06:11:58 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 05, 2012, 05:53:26 amIt sounds like you should go out of your way to increase their costs and overheads. What kind of business makes things hard for their customers by refusing to offer efficient services?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 06:13:31 am
content: Quote from: IanB on April 05, 2012, 06:11:58 amThat's Australia Post's speciality!Dave.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 06:25:43 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 05, 2012, 05:53:26 amYes you can.In the words of the Australian Post Office:QuoteIf you look at their PDF's, they make it extremely clear that the API is to integrate Delivery Choice into your web store, and "eBay" is not mentioned anywhere. Here is their API summary diagram which shows your website talking to Australia Post and the happy customer:The documentation for Delivery Choice is here:http://auspost.com.au/devcentre/delivery-choice.aspYou can use Delivery Choice to then control your eParcel or Click and Send account.It almost sounds to me like ebay is trying to make Click and Send look as if it is an ebay product. Wouldn't put it past them. I would guess that there is extra code and tools from eBay that improves the ease of shipping eBay items.Richard.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 07:09:19 am
content: Quote from: IanB on April 05, 2012, 06:11:58 amA: A government business or a business that was once a government business !There's a phone company here that is still like that to deal with, and they've been sold off for a decade now!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 07:10:57 am
content: Well, I spoke to one of the developers of an Australian shopping cart system and they said that no Oz software can integrate with ClickAndSend because of the API not being available and exclusive to ebay.They all support the regular AusPost API for shipping quote however, including my current ZenCart system.Dave.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 07:32:37 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 05, 2012, 07:10:57 amIt definitely works with eParcel (1000 parcels + per year), but it is possible that Australia Post have kindly forgot to mention that it does not support "Click and Send". You can email them atclickandsend@auspost.com.auto ask.ClickandSend will be getting a major upgrade over the next 6 weeks, so there may be features that are coming that were not available before. It is a new system and they will be transferring all accounts from the old system. They say they have streamlined the interface a lot.Richard.

author: caroper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 11:51:54 am
content: Quote from: Uncle Vernon on April 05, 2012, 07:09:19 amWe have the same here and the saying goes "You can take Telkom out of the Post Office but you can never take the Post Office out of Telkom"

author: pachuma
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 03:04:52 pm
content: Logistics aside, those uCurrents comming out of the assembly line are looking very neat! From what I see, fast moving mouse clicks will be needed to get my hands on one.

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 07:03:27 pm
content: I'll be stuck at work again when Dave puts them up for sale..... and POOF! They will be gone before I can get home to get my hands on one.Chrisedit grammer

author: pachuma
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2012, 09:24:32 pm
content: Quote from: dcel on April 05, 2012, 07:03:27 pmYah, same thing happened to meIn my case, I suppose I will be sleeping at the time they are available.Hint, hint, Dave, different time zone batch availability

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2012, 03:37:08 am
content: Last time they were available, I was at work and when I got home I read on here somewhere that they only lasted seven minutes til they were gone. POOF! I bet those 200 MicroCurrents will be gone in two days tops.Wait, I think my math is off... 50 units gone in 7 minutes...Um... 200/50=4*7=28 minutes! That's probably closer to reality.Reason I want one is its a great solution to a problem, I don't have time to build one myself and to support Dave and the EEVBlog.I haven't decided to get a MicroSupply yet, waiting to see how it evolves further. Was going to definitely get the kit but it changed and I needed a power supply, so I got one off eBay.Chris

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 06, 2012, 07:54:47 am
content: I built 200 based on the sign-up request list, with quite some to spare.Those who complain they can't get one this time, obviously didn't sign up to the list!50 uCurrent's now working and ready to be listed. Just not sure which shopping cart I'll use this time...Hope to list them tonight.Dave.

author: eevblogfan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2012, 10:28:34 am
content: heyI am in the list , there is anything else that I should do in order to buy the ucurrent adapter ? (IE, register to anything else ? )thank you in advance !

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2012, 02:48:08 pm
content: Well, I think I was able tofinallyorder my very own uCurrent!!!I was home this time when they went up for sale.Chris

author: bingo600
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2012, 03:00:36 pm
content: Just ordered 2 uCurrentsOrder Number: 214I haven't been on any lists , but the orderprocess went fine.Hope the system knows when the stock is exhausted , and mine isn't made of "Unobtanium"/Bingo

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2012, 04:19:25 pm
content: For six months I was sure they were made out of "Unobtainium"! (You know that stuff is mined in Australia, right?) Least ways, I couldn't obtain one, they had a half-life of 3.5 minutes. I think some batches had a contaminant called "Vanishadium" because they seem to disappear quickly.Chris

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 07, 2012, 10:37:17 pm
content: Quote from: bingo600 on April 07, 2012, 03:00:36 pmIt does indeed.Currently Out of Stock!Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 07, 2012, 10:39:52 pm
content: BTW, after trying many shopping carts, I finally went back to my old ZenCart one, which supposedly is able to integrate with ClickandSend via readytoship.com.auBut of course, it currently doesn't work, even though their website claims it does.Trying to get that sorted...Dave.

author: Wartex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2012, 11:47:06 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 07, 2012, 10:37:17 pmAlmost two years ago I told you they will fly off the shelf and you should make more because there is always demand for cheap but useful gizmos, and you said there is no demand.I also predict that the power supply won't sell anywhere close to uCurrent.

author: bingo600
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2012, 04:56:26 pm
content: Got my uCurrents todayThanx Dave , fast shipping/Bingo

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 17, 2012, 10:20:20 pm
content: Quote from: Wartex on April 07, 2012, 11:47:06 pmYou are likely confusing uCurrents with one of Dave's other projects, his quad-copter!

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2012, 04:55:56 am
content: I received my uCurrent today! YAH!Is that the last fifty left that you listed today?Thanks DaveChris

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 19, 2012, 07:56:20 am
content: Quote from: Wartex on April 07, 2012, 11:47:06 pmTherewasno demand, that was a fact. I had stock of this thing for a long time with very slow sales. Barely enough demand to warrant making another batch of 50 each time. Making another 50 each time was always a considerable risk.Why it's now suddenly quite popular I'm not entirely sure. Probably a few mentions on the blog etc, with a bit of hype and hysteria thrown in maybe.It only appears to "fly off the shelf" because it's recently been in a backlog situation, which not only builds hype, but causes a batch to sell out very quickly.Let's see what happens when the list subscribers have bought them all...QuoteMaybe, maybe not.That's why you don't do big batches.I think a power supply has a much larger potential audience than the uCurrent, which is quite a niche device.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 19, 2012, 07:58:15 am
content: Quote from: dcel on April 19, 2012, 04:55:56 amAll the units I have are now listed.Currently 81 in stock... and not flying, but dribbling out the door.Dave.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2012, 09:48:06 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 19, 2012, 07:58:15 amhehe, time for another ucurrent video then, that might boost salesThe trouble is you've pretty much covered everything about them already.It might get the back-in-stock info to youtube channel subscribers though, people who don't visit the forum/blog much.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 19, 2012, 01:10:18 pm
content: Quote from: Psi on April 19, 2012, 09:48:06 amShot another one today!I built a little simple test jig, so figured I'd shoot it.Dave.

author: kaptain_zero
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2012, 12:51:16 am
content: Dave, it never hurts to have a bit of stock.... in stock.I'm sure you'll have another annoying run on the things, just when you don't want to have to run down to the post office! Come to think of it, I'm actually trying not to order another one myself, just to get one of those newfangled boards.RegardsChristian

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 05:54:06 am
content: Hmm, 30 uCurrent units left in stock. At what point do I make more, and how many?...Dave.

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 08:44:09 am
content: I thinks that you shouldnotrush it with another big batch.Alexander.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 03:28:12 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 24, 2012, 05:54:06 amHas Air Traffic Control halted all those flights out the door?

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 08:16:42 pm
content: Could have used one today to measure leakage current in a remote. But just cleaned the board, and after drying it and putting in a new battery I used multimeter on 2mA range - got 0.001mA, tried both ways and got -0.001mA, so it seems to be not leaking any more. Board was a little corroded, so it was washed again with spray oil to slow down the decay.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 10:37:15 pm
content: Damn, down to 16 now.Dave.

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2012, 11:22:54 am
content: Now 10 left in stock.Almost 200 units gone in a little over 2 weeks time.Better start another batch soon.Great product, word is getting around...Chris

author: DarkPrince
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2012, 04:44:00 pm
content: So where was this being sold? The original shop? Was expecting something being posted in the News section or something... guess next time.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 29, 2012, 10:07:51 pm
content: Quote from: DarkPrince on April 29, 2012, 04:44:00 pmI posted here (and many people discussing it), on twitter, and on the blog site. Hard to miss. There was also the sign-up list you must have missed...It seems no matter what I do, people will always say they didn't know about it!Dave.

author: Chet T16
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2012, 10:29:53 pm
content: Maybe I spend far too much time on the Internet but I could've easily bought one from the last three batches, even the small batches.

author: DarkPrince
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2012, 02:45:25 am
content: No I will admit that it was a fail on my part. In no way would I have pointed a finger at you. I was just curious at what all I missed. I went back on the main page and I see it now. I never did actually see it, I wasn't expecting multiple entries in the news and never scrolled down. From there I just kept up on any further posts and well, it just disappeared into the bliss. Dho' on me. Sign up list isn't relevant... as they are just material in such media releases. Yeah was watching this thread and noticed the context changed when I went, uh, hur, what! As I said, Dave, I am not pointing towards you for guilt as I am to be blamed. I need to suscribe to an rss feed or such so I won't miss it next time. Or learn how Twitter works.Have a great day and thank you for all the wonderful videos and such you post Dave!Chet T16:Yeah unfortunately as of late with the semester ending I have been distracted. Only realized this yesterday because I requested the day off work just to take a breather. Either case no foul, was just wondering and posting quite ignorantly (in a rush).

author: Chupa
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 11, 2012, 08:24:14 pm
content: Hey Dave,Any idea when the next batch will be available?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2012, 03:35:57 am
content: Quote from: Chupa on May 11, 2012, 08:24:14 pmParts and boards were sent to the assemblers on Thurs, they should now have them.They were free last week to assemble, but I missed that. Haven't checked when their next free schedule is yet, hopefully this week.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 30, 2012, 04:56:18 am
content: They are back in stock again:http://eevblog.com/shop/Dave.

author: Cj1corbystarlet
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2012, 10:33:43 am
content: Just ordered one Finally Dave, I missed out on the other occasions Cant wait till it arrives.BenPerth.

author: DarkPrince
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2012, 11:34:29 am
content: I payed attention this time Dave, order is in now. Had to show my support! Of course it is a 'no-brainer' decision with all the battery powered systems I tend to make.

author: TheWelly888
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2012, 04:29:08 pm
content: Goody! Just ordered one!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 31, 2012, 12:09:45 am
content: 32 units sold out overnight.Where do all these people come from??Dave.

author: terabyte
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2012, 01:08:22 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 31, 2012, 12:09:45 amcongrats mate. dont question it. just keep doing what you do.maybe word of mouth is starting to take effect.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2012, 01:39:38 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 31, 2012, 12:09:45 amYou're a celebrity. Buying a uCurrent from you is like buying a signed photograph. I think you are learning the first rule of marketing, which is that brand image counts far more than utility. (Not saying the uCurrent doesn't work mind, but most people who buy one probably don't have a use for it.)

author: rr100
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2012, 11:55:19 am
content: Dave, I'd say you better brace yourself for the USB and portable PSes.I was about to pull the trigger on a uCurrent myself just to support Dave even if I hardly see myself using it, problem is I'd probably have to pay customs and it's not the money itself but I'll have to go and pick it up myself from customs and THAT would suck. Well, for the best, maybe somebody who needed one got it.

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2012, 03:35:11 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 31, 2012, 12:09:45 amPoof! And they are gone! Again!I suggested you make another 200, but you limped in at 100 units.I dont even think that 200 is enough.Last batch, the last posting was like 80+ units and they were gone in just less than 36 hours, I was paying close attention, out of curiosity.Is it possible that you are underestimating your approx. 10k viewers that are just on youtube? What about Twitter? The amp hour? Etc...Like rr100 said, you need to plan on getting slammed with orders for the power supplies.I know I am in for one of each, cool gadgets, gotta have them!I wish all the best luck to you Dave, your are already a success and a celebrity, just keep doin' what your doin' and try to keep kits in stock.Chris

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2012, 04:52:04 am
content: Quote from: dcel on May 31, 2012, 03:35:11 pmMaybe, but I just KNOW that I'm going to hit saturation at some point were sales will drop down to a dribble.So it's a balancing act of not being caught out with too much stock.Hindsight is easy, I should have built a thousand of these things, or 200 in the last batch, or 400 before that etc.I know a lot people people will say it was obvious, but I have been caught out with these kits before, and there were many indicated that sales would dry up some time back.BTW, I am now doing international distribution through Adafruit, so will only be doing local OZ sales myself.This will take some time pressure off. We'll see how it goes.They only want 25 for starters, lets see how quick they sell out.I now have to decide how many to make for the next run so I'm not caught short. Adafruit take backorders, so they want pretty quick shipment to fulfill the orders.QuoteYes. The first run will depend on the cost of the unit.The USB one is designed to be really low cost, so 1000 first run might even be do-able.But the battery one is much more expensive, and to do a first run in a big QTY like say 500 would require access to some serious cash. Unless I took pre-orders and got all the money up front.Dave.

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2012, 08:40:55 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 05, 2012, 04:52:04 amI just KNOW that as you gain popularity, any product you produce will be just as popular. You keep complaining about getting caught with these kits before. Before what? Before EEVBlog, Twitter, Youtube, The Amp Hour, Etc. That is why you haven't been able to keep them in stock, 'before' no longer exists. Back to the future for you Dave!Quote from: EEVblog on June 05, 2012, 04:52:04 amGreat! and now I will caution you. You need to keep selling as you were, internationally, you have just added a distributor, not a shipping department. I know how much you hate the postoffice, just a necessary evil, you may need to hire a lab intern and use him/her for such tasks.There are those people that will only buy from the creator and wont muck with distro's.As for Adafruit, great, fantastic!, you have just opened yourself to another huge market in which to sell uCurrents and power supplies, think you cant make them fast enough now, wait til Adafruit starts selling them and their sales take off. Better make more. And had better keep enough backstock to fill their backorders in a timely fashion.Quote from: EEVblog on June 05, 2012, 04:52:04 amJust do one at a time and start with the USB uSupply, get that one up and selling and use that to generate funds for the uSupply. Due to the higher initial cost of the uSupply, you should do those in smaller batches so you don't have to seek funding. After the boards get back from assm, open the ordering up and get them selling to re-coupe your operating capital.Having Adafruit on board is going to help with the uSupply sales immensely, they have the beginner hobbyist audience for the power supplies to sell to. Your power supplies just fit the niche of that market as well. Low cost and feature rich portable supply great for experimenting with microcontroller projects, etc.ChrisEdit grammer.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2012, 08:58:33 am
content: Quote from: dcel on June 05, 2012, 08:40:55 amI was selling the uCurrent both before the blog and after I had been doing the blog for quite some time and was already popular. Not many people wanted it then.Something happened at some point that whipped people into a bit of frenzy over it, and there were absolutely no indications that would happen at all. I had actually discontinued it because sales were drying up. I think it was likely the combination of it being unobtanium, then the hype over a new batch, and the odd mention in a video etc.As for the uCurrent, there IS a "before" because it's not a new release, the majority of my audience who wanted one already have one, so there is a saturation point which means you just eventually pick up the dribbles from the new viewer sales.However many I produce next is always a gamble.QuoteI suspect Adafruit will not sell many of them to their own customers who don't know me, it's just not one of those types of cool gadget products.The PSU's are another story.QuoteThat is precisely why I'm trialling them with the uCurrent, to see how it all goes.Dave.

author: baljemmett
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2012, 01:09:52 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 05, 2012, 04:52:04 amHave you considered the new 'in' thing, crowdfunding? Kickstarter is the famous one, of course, but it's US-only from the funded-projects point of view; I saw the name Pozible float past my radar this morning as an Australian alternative, though.Just thinking it might be a way to raise seed capital for a decent first run; it could be run like a pre-order system (pledge the sale price of a unit, get one of the first batch, etc.) except you don't have the "sitting on folks' money" issue you've previously mentioned not being keen on -- you only get the dosh when you raise your target amount. If you don't get enough 'pre-orders' to justify the big run, the backers get their money back, no hassle for you. At least, that's my understanding...(And of course you could offer the Dave Jones Signature Edition, anybody who pledges 150% of the sale price will receive a unit that you've signed in permanent marker, etc.)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2012, 01:36:06 pm
content: Yes, I have considered something like that, and it was discussed a bit on the latest AmpHour show.Yes, Pozzible is the aussie version of kickstarter.Upsides are that I'd know how many people want one (genuine, money talks kind), and can do a production run accordingly. And you do get an idea of how many minimum before the money actually rolls in. And of course if it doesn't meet the numbers target, no loss as you say. And if it was on kickstarter, the publicity of just being on kickstarter.Downsides are:- I'd still be sitting on the money for a month or so while the production cog turns (assuming no issues) and they get tested packed and posted. Not a whole lot better than allowing pre-orders on my shopping cart, but better.- It would be outside my usual shopping cart system that I already have fairly streamlined. So I'd have to work a new system. Would likely have to get something in place and working first. I have no idea how Kickstarter or Pozible gives you the data?- Just sending stuff would be a full time job for several weeks at least, if the numbers are in the 4 digit range. But that's probably the same regardless of the route I go with doing the fulfilment myself.Dave.

author: baljemmett
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2012, 02:14:32 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 05, 2012, 01:36:06 pmAh -- whoops -- sorry! I'm not a regular listener, I'm afraidBut yes, you do raise some good points:QuoteIndeed, although it does have the added advantage that if you don't reach your target amount to do a sizeable first run, you wouldn't have taken any money in the first place -- so you can reconsider your plans at your leisure instead of answering a hundred "oi where is my shiny toy?" e-mails... (He says, optimistically.)QuoteI couldn't find anything in Pozible's information pages, but Kickstarter havethis to sayregarding fulfilling the pledge rewards:Quote from: Kickstarter FAQWhich seems a bit haphazard, really, but at least you can make sure you get the details you need in a format that's reasonably easy to work with; maybe your web cart can even import batch orders from CSV somehow? One option might be to try it out with a small run of the new USB supply boards and see what happens, but I can see how you might just want to say "stuff it, I'll stick with what already works"!Come to think of it, another possibility might be to make the pledge rewards something like "you'll be first to know when it's done" -- instead of asking your backers for their shipping details and then incorporating that into your process, you could send them a link to a hidden item in the web shop where the PSU is listed for 99 cents or something along those lines, with the public launch happening a week later or suchlike? Then it all goes through your normal ordering process... Would depend on people not being idiots and sharing the link, but you'd have a list of names to check orders against at least. Just thinking out loud!

author: urbanwriter
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2012, 06:40:49 pm
content: I just wonder how many people bought a uCurrent (and 'may' buy power supplies) as much as a modicum of support for EEVblog as any real need... I'm still fighting with LEDs, NPNs, and endless bits of wire, my real need for my uCurrent is still about zero. I have bought stuff from a number of suppliers solely because of their 'hobbyist' support mechanisms - video, fora, and the like. View it as putting something in to the 'open source' idea without really having anything technical to offer.

author: FlyingBrickyard
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2012, 12:24:16 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 05, 2012, 08:58:33 amAny idea when they might have them up for sale on the site?I just hit up the shop here to pick one up myself (having only recently discovered the blog) and I saw they were out of stock, and that I just missed them. Then I saw this topic.I'm still incredibly new to all of this, but I've dived in head first and am learning quickly (thanks in no small part to your blog), and I can certainly see the value in having something like the uCurrent. Given the rather reasonable cost I'm inclined to grab one even though I don't have an immediate need for it. I've no doubt I will in the future.

author: FlyingBrickyard
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 12, 2012, 05:40:30 pm
content: Nevermind.It would appear they're up at Adafruit now.I just grabbed one. Only 21 remaining.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 12, 2012, 11:39:27 pm
content: Quote from: baljemmett on June 05, 2012, 02:14:32 pmYikes, what a balls-up!Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 12, 2012, 11:41:05 pm
content: Yes, it is now available for order from Adafruit:http://www.adafruit.com/products/882And I believe they take back orders as well.Dave.

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 13, 2012, 11:50:33 pm
content: Dear Dave:--Congratulations. Tall trees from little acorns grow. Eventually Lady Ada will have an entire menu of products with the Platypus on the back of the board. Maybe you will even make enough money to get Sagan a new pair of shoes."Business is never so healthy as when, like a chicken, it must do a certain amount of scratching around for what it gets."Henry Ford 1863 - 1947Best RegardsClear Ether

author: Zad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2012, 09:24:54 pm
content: Just 5 left now!

author: FlyingBrickyard
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 08:15:33 pm
content: Down to 1.Looks like they went fairly quickly.

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 09:31:12 am
content: Adafruit is out now.Better build/send more Dave.Chris

author: 8086
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 09:58:13 am
content: Hey Dave, where did you get the battery holder for the uCurrent? You've probably said elsewhere but idk where.

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2012, 09:53:35 am
content: Pretty sure he bought them in bulk from Digikey. It was in one of his videos a while back.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 23, 2012, 11:28:00 am
content: Quote from: 8086 on June 16, 2012, 09:58:13 amIt's a Keystone 1060K. Available pretty much everywhere.Dave.

author: 8086
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2012, 08:54:28 pm
content: Thanks Dave

author: EEMarc
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2012, 11:17:05 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 05, 2012, 08:58:33 amYou're right. The uCurrent is one of those products that are actually useful and not just a doodad.Once people hear the story of burden voltage and the effects that it has on their attempt at a precision measurement, they remember it. They get it immediately and buy the product and start to use it. After some time, something interesting happens. They start to tell other people they run across about the story of the burden voltage and how they solved it. They show off the uCurrent to people heard of burden voltage. The new people remember the story of the burden voltage. Later down the road, they run into a situation where they can't make a measurement and remember why they can't get a good reading because of the storied burden voltage. If they are really lucky, they will be able to buy the uCurrent in the rare case that they are available. When their burden voltage problem eventually gets solved, they can't help but to tell other people about what happened and how they fixed it.There are gobs of people out there that can benefit from the uCurrent, orders of magnitude more than the small collection of people that you are considering. How can any of them, myself included, benefit from the product when every time we go to buy the product we are greeted with a "sold out" unclickable button?-Marc(The guy who has been waiting for the uCurrent to be available for over a year)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 05, 2012, 12:21:33 pm
content: Quote from: EEMarc on July 05, 2012, 11:17:05 amWhat am I supposed to do? I would be foolish to simply go and produce thousands of them. The relatively small sales numbers reflect the demand.And as for Adafruit stock I do not dictate how many they order, they tell me.I'm sure that almost all of my current audience who want one have got one, that leaves dribbles through new viewers and those who find out second hand or through Adafruit or whatever. How do I know how many to produce? 50? 100? 200? 500? 1000? 2000?Adafuit have only a handful of people signed up to get one once they come in again. And I've only got a few people like yourself complaining. We are talking barely double digits here. So how many do I produce based on that fact?I made another 200 this time to silence the few are complaining that they have never been able to get one.I've sold maybe close to 1000 now over more than 3 years, that's not a lot, and most of the time the sales have been a drizzle.That's less than like 1 a day, and that includes the rather unusual frenzy that has happened a few times.QuoteSorry to hear that, but there has really been little excuse not to be able to get one.I set up a sign-up list and produced about 40% MORE than the number of people who signed up.If you were on that list you would have got one, guaranteed.If you watched any of the future release alerts you could have scored one. 3-4 times now? Plus two times with Adafruit who have a sign-up alert list?Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 05, 2012, 12:26:41 pm
content: Quote from: EEMarc on July 05, 2012, 11:17:05 amI doubt it.Burden voltage is a rather obscure niche problem that can actually be solved or gotten around a few ways.In most cases burden voltage doesn't matter much, and people just get by or mostly don't even notice it.There is a reason why there has never been a product to solve it before, it's because it's not a huge issue in most cases.It's a niche product for a niche problem.Dave.

author: EEMarc
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2012, 04:03:43 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 05, 2012, 12:21:33 pmAnd expensive too.QuoteThe "or whatever" might be a few drops or a small pond.QuoteHow many to produce is a very good question. There is a large amount of risk and expense to buying a large amount upfront. The 200 quantity order probably feels awfully expensive and risky to you. I would probably feel that myself if I were in your shoes. If that is the most that you are comfortable, then I wouldn't have you stock any more than that. I wouldn't stock any more than that if I were in your shoes. There isn't a big risk with 200 boards, but just enough to feel uncomfortable.The even better question is when to order. You are aware of how long your lead time is from the moment you decide to order more boards until you finish testing the last uCurrent. Now there is additional time for Adafruit to get their stock. I'll suppose that time is 2 months including PCB manufacturer, part placement, final assembly and testing, and will ignore the difference between Australia and Adafruit orders.A few facts are that if you wait until you run out and order 200 again, you leave 2 months where people can't order any. The long term average order rate is approximately 25 per month, or 50 over the duration of the lead time. Also, ordering 100 is more expensive per board than ordering 200 at a time.It is natural to want to order 200 to get the additional savings and increase profit. Conversely, you may be losing the "or whatever" sales which may be causing the sales spikes for people who don't actively follow your work. My proposed solution? Try for a continuous stock. The maximum stock at any time is set at 200. The minimum stock before reordering point 50 to meet the 2 month average lead time given a perfectly uniform order rate. You're going to want to add in some safety margin of course. I like to use 50% typically. Given the unusual frenzy, 100% safety margin is okay. This would make the reorder point would be 100. Since the stock maximum is 200, only order 100. If things sell fast, you will reach your reorder point sooner and the margin should buffer the rest. If you run out, and you already have 100 in the pipleline, you reached a second reorder point so reorder 100 and you are at your 200 stock limit. If your short run average order rate remains high, consider a modest increase in your maximum stock, and adjust your reorder point. The risk of getting stuck with stock is reduced if the trend starts to persist. If the short run average is low, consider lowering your reorder point to limit reduce risk.Adding Adafruit back in, pool their stock with your stock on hand and any stock in the process of being made when considering the decision points above. Even though they are technically sold as far as you're concerned, it is unlikely that they will sell out and not reorder. Being able to rapidly resupply them will increase your sales via them. They'll adjust their purchasing habits to reflect demand on their own.For the uCurrent, I can't say how many more you will sell. I get the feeling with the surprise demand and my experience talking about the thing to people I know that there may just be chasm being reached and not just the end of the product's life. There is the chance that I'm just smelling a snake. The above supply chain enhancements will help manage risk when making the decision to go ahead with the power supply or other future projects.-Marc(The guy who didn't see the email signup list or announcements in time but is now on the Adafruit list and will hopefully be finally getting a uCurrent soon)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 06, 2012, 01:19:00 am
content: Quote from: EEMarc on July 05, 2012, 04:03:43 pmFor Adafruit, they only seem to order once stock hit zero. So even if I have them in stock myself, it takes at least a week to get there and get in Adafruits store again. That's at least a week with no stock.QuoteNot really, no. Very little difference in cost between 100 and 200, it's basically just amortisation cost of postage.I know very well about lead times etc, and am doing my best to juggle demand vs risk vs lead time etc.QuoteFYI, I discontinued the product at one point because demand dropped to almost zero and it really wasn't worth my hassle to continue to produce for it for one or two people a month that enquired. Just like all my other old projects.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 16, 2012, 11:07:14 pm
content: Back in stock at Adafruit again.And very shortly from Singapore Robotic for those in the Asia/Pacific region.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 18, 2012, 02:45:14 am
content: Now in stock at Singapore Robotic:http://www.sgbotic.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=1175Dave.

author: David4x
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 25, 2012, 12:08:04 pm
content: Hi Dave - any plans to make more uCurrent's available on your AUS store in the short term? I am after two and I would like to reduce the gain by 10 so I can measure 0-3A?Otherwise I will have to ship in from overseas - pretty ironic and not the best for the old carbon footprint...

author: Balaur
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 25, 2012, 01:04:28 pm
content: Hello Dave,I'm just wondering loudly if an AC rectifier adapter could be an interesting device (and/or a good selling addition to your store). I know I could buy that.Many multimeters are just not good enough in AC, even for audio applications. When younger and fascinated by audio stuff, I had to build my own op-amp precision rectifier to have any useful AC measurements for my small-series amps, audio equalizers and so on. The components I could get at that time were +/- 20% and even stereo balancing was absolutely required.Even relatively competent multimeters have an accuracy guaranteed to a pitiful 4-5 KHz and only a handful go to a few tens/hundreds of KHz.Cheers,Dan

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 25, 2012, 11:42:17 pm
content: Quote from: David4x on July 25, 2012, 12:08:04 pmYeah, I've got plenty but just need to test them first. Sorry, been slack as usual...Dave.

author: David4x
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 25, 2012, 11:58:49 pm
content: Fabulous Dave well done! How soon before I can use the checkout on your shop?Any chance you could customise two for me to have the 0-3A range discussed? Otherwise I can work it out. I will find an adjustable pot and trim it in parallel with the op-amp input resistor.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 26, 2012, 01:55:03 am
content: Quote from: David4x on July 25, 2012, 11:58:49 pmNot sure, I don't work to schedules :->QuoteNot possible. The switches are only designed for 300mA max.Dave.

author: David4x
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 26, 2012, 01:58:57 am
content: Good point about the switches Dave I forgot about those. Nevertheless still keen to get two units ASAP - even in untested state as there is not a lot that can go wrong - assuming they populated the right parts....I wish I was in a position where I didn't have to work to schedules!

author: David4x
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 29, 2012, 11:59:14 pm
content: Any update Dave on when the uCurrent will be on your store?

author: andyturk
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2012, 05:36:59 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 05, 2012, 12:21:33 pmOK, so the demand is greater than zero and less than "thousands". The issue isn't that demand isn't there, but that it's difficult to measure.How about an approach like kickstarter? You decide what your minimum requirements are for the next build and if folks like it, they vote with pledge dollars. You could get a guaranteed minimum at which you break even (and hopefully better) and your customers get involved earlier. You could throw in t-shirts for super early pledgers, or offer discounts, or whatever. For instance, I'd happily send in my CC digits to get in line for one of your USB power supply thingies. Tell me where to sign, man!Someone will eventually figure out a general business model for this where "maker" type people have a way to estimate demand and do short, low-risk production runs of hobby oriented gizmos--not everyone wants to set up a store front and take on the inventory risk. Sort of a cross between ebay and kickstarter.Bonus points for accepting Bitcoins. ;-)

author: rollatorwieltje
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2012, 09:33:50 pm
content: I think there's plenty of demand. Maybe not for 1000+, but 100+ should be safe. Over here in the Netherlands someone offered 50 uCurrents (slightly modified to fit in a locally available project box), they were sold out within a day.On the other hand, that's also a good example of the advantage of open source hardware. If you feel you can start a business, you can do it yourself.@andyturkWhat you're probably looking for is a "group buy" type website. One guy plans to buy a lots of stuff, and other people can place an order. When a minimum is reached, the buyer can decide to go ahead. All the customers pay in advance, and when the payments are in the order is placed. The uCurrents over here were sold exactly like that.Of course this system relies heavily on trusting the buyer, but in practice it turns out to be as reliable as buying from a webshop.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 09, 2012, 06:28:34 am
content: Now available in my store again.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 09, 2012, 06:29:43 am
content: Quote from: rollatorwieltje on August 08, 2012, 09:33:50 pmGot a link to this?Dave.

author: rollatorwieltje
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 09, 2012, 11:10:14 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 09, 2012, 06:29:43 amhttp://samenkopen.net/action/586019

author: Chet T16
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2012, 11:11:39 am
content: Dave,Where are europeans supposed to order from?(i have one i got from you but i'm curious)

author: rowant
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2012, 12:35:41 pm
content: Thanks DaveI'll now wait for my employer to ask why I was buying stuff from davidjones with the company card

author: dcel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2012, 03:02:17 pm
content: Quote from: rowant on August 12, 2012, 12:35:41 pmPlease video that conversation, we would all like to see that encounter!Chris

author: funkimunky
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2012, 10:03:53 am
content: Can you buy a uCurrent in the uk I looked on the eevblog shop and it seems like you can buy one anywhere in the world except in europe

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 05, 2012, 10:16:52 am
content: Quote from: funkimunky on October 05, 2012, 10:03:53 amI have arranged for an EU distributor, but have to do another batch to get stock to them.So will take some time.Dave.

author: Soertier
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2012, 01:56:35 pm
content: Really looking forward to the uCurrent being available in Europe!

author: veryevil
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 31, 2012, 10:37:13 am
content: EU uCurrent supplier is going to be great! Really think work should get one so we can do some proper low power testing.Estimated time? 4-6 Weeks to get batch made up?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 31, 2012, 10:40:47 am
content: Quote from: veryevil on October 31, 2012, 10:37:13 amBoards are ordered, and parts ordering tomorrow.So it'll be a few weeks minimum, say 3-4 weeks.Dave.

author: Soertier
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2012, 04:20:25 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 31, 2012, 10:40:47 amThanks for letting us know, Dave.Will the pricing be the regular "extra spicy" EU style? compared to US or AU?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 31, 2012, 11:05:42 pm
content: Quote from: Soertier on October 31, 2012, 04:20:25 pmI don't know. I suggest they sell it at the equivalent of the standard price of US$59.95.But they are free to do what they want and may have extra overhead or the EU conversion might not work that favourable etc.Dave.

author: veryevil
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 22, 2012, 07:58:35 am
content: Hey, any news on progress of UK distributor of uCurrent?Really want to get one or two in for work.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 22, 2012, 09:51:40 am
content: Quote from: veryevil on November 22, 2012, 07:58:35 amOnce I get new stock in the next few weeks, I'll set up the German distributor with stock and let everyone know.Dave.

author: rr100
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2012, 10:04:21 am
content: Can I ask if you restocked adafruit already, as in "is their back in stock in 5-10 working days" plausible?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 22, 2012, 10:18:44 am
content: Quote from: rr100 on November 22, 2012, 10:04:21 amDamn, sold out already.No, I have not restocked them yet.500 units are still at the assembler.They said they might do a part shipment, which will go to Adafruit ASAP.It'll be at least 10 days before I send them I suspect, then at least a few days to get there.If you need one now, they are in stock here:http://www.sgbotic.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=1175Dave.

author: veryevil
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 05, 2012, 09:09:30 pm
content: Hey any update its been a few weeks?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 13, 2012, 08:58:51 am
content: Quote from: veryevil on December 05, 2012, 09:09:30 pmJust got them today.Assemblers were two weeks late.Already tested 100.Should ship out to Adafruit tomorrow.Dave.

author: veryevil
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 13, 2012, 09:01:02 am
content: Sweet cannot wait. Thanks!EDIT: Are Adafruit European? They look American?

author: Bloch
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 16, 2012, 08:10:47 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 05, 2012, 10:16:52 amSometime have goneAny news for us there live in a EU country ?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 16, 2012, 09:26:04 pm
content: Quote from: Bloch on December 16, 2012, 08:10:47 pmI am hoping to send stock to my EU distributor in a few days time.Will announce once it's all settled.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 20, 2012, 09:06:24 am
content: The uCurrent will now be available in the EU from Robot-Italyhttp://www.robot-italy.com/en/ucurrent-pre-built-tested.htmlUnits will be shipping out to them tomorrow.Dave.

author: chrome
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2012, 04:37:40 pm
content: Jesus christ Dave, that's overcharging like hell.On a site in Holland I payed 28€ with shipping combined. (it was an action people do where some guy made 50 boards to save cost and you could buy kits where you had to handsolder everything but then it was only 23€).

author: rr100
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 08:38:59 am
content: By the way I received the (surely automated) notification from adafruit that ucurrents are in stock again (for context scroll up for my previous post).It seems that intentionally or not Dave is joining the league of sellers that nowadays just don't have the product you want to buy; just manufacture a small batch, don't block your money in stock that you might not sell, keep the price up instead of flooding the market, etc. Kindle Paperwhite was out of stock for weeks around holidays, Nexus 4 launched in November or so and is sold out from day one I believe, etc. Congrats I guess :-)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 09:09:15 am
content: Quote from: rr100 on January 27, 2013, 08:38:59 amIt's not deliberate, it's a combination of my contract manufacturer dicking me around for ages, and then Uncle Sam holding onto the package for a month or something until they decided to release it.Only a fool produces more product than a) they think they can sell, or b) order history has shown what will sell.FYI, Adafruit ordered 200 this time, I took a gamble and made 500, all with my own money up front. That good enough for you?Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 09:16:26 am
content: Quote from: chrome on December 20, 2012, 04:37:40 pmI have no control over what they charge.I make my margin, and they sell it for whatever they like to make their margin.QuoteThat's because the guy is selling direct into a local market and proabably at a low margin, and without using a commercial reseller and factoring in ternational postage. Of course he's going to be cheaper. Nor does any of the money go to the orginal author. And BTW, he's probably working for the equivalent of slave wages. If that works for him, good luck to him.Does he individually calibration check them?Dave.

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 09:22:14 am
content: Greetings EEVBees:--I have tried twice before to order a µCurrent, and just missed out by seconds. This time I managed to be watching when they came on the market and managed to snag one from the attractive lady engineer Ada. Bonus. Act quickly they will not last."A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:Its loveliness increases"John Keats 1795 -1821Best RegardsClear Ether

author: rr100
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 10:27:37 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 27, 2013, 09:09:15 amProbably it didn't come across but I wasn't bashing you for not making enough, it's just not the kind of the product you can get upset for not getting. In fact as I probably mentioned I believe most people (including myself) got one because it says Dave (so to speak) on it.On the other hand the power supply, THAT has some potential of getting some people upset for not getting one :-)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 10:39:50 am
content: Quote from: rr100 on January 27, 2013, 10:27:37 amI've been selling the thing for almost 4 years now, and at least at one stage I actually discontinued it because it simply wasn't selling enough to make even small hand batches viable. In fact I think it may have been twice I did that, until a few people kept complaining so loudly so I'd make another small batch.With hindsight after those 4 years, I should have made a few thousand and lowered my costs. But either way murphy will ensure that you get screwed somehow.Dave.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 10:51:33 am
content: Just wondering - did you ever talk to Farnell/Elephant 14 about stocking it?

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 11:04:36 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 27, 2013, 10:51:33 amWould be fun to see what kind of certifications the would request, as they did with the Raspberry PI.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 11:13:29 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 27, 2013, 10:51:33 amNo. I doubt they'd want the hassle of a tinpot one-product supplier for a very niche product.And the associated paperwork involved with such a large org, is likely not worth it for them, and certainly not me.Dave.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 04:52:25 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 27, 2013, 10:39:50 amA nice illustration of the power of marketing, I think. It shows how increasing visibility and awareness of a product and creating a brand culture around it can increase sales without changing the product at all.

author: Bloch
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 07:00:47 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 27, 2013, 09:16:26 amIt is of course up to you and those you use for a subcontractor of your products.But you're probably not surprised that customers for your products takes a 5 seconds Google search.And some of them is quite upset about the treatment they receive at some companies. I refer to the 1 $ suddenly becomes 1 Eur.Quote from: EEVblog on January 27, 2013, 10:39:50 amBut all said I hope that robot-italy will sell all that they already got on stock.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 10:40:09 pm
content: Quote from: Bloch on January 27, 2013, 07:00:47 pmThey approached me about being a distributor.Anyone else is free to offer to also become a distributor and sell at a lower price if they can.Numbers are so low on this thing that it's just not worth my time to hunt down, contact, and evaluate in great detail the best value distributor in every country.QuoteBTW, where is this company that sells the OpenCurrent? I can't find them.QuoteWho are you referring too?If you have a genuine complaint against one of my distributors, then I will listen and deal with it. Possibly not using or recommending them again.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 10:44:15 pm
content: Quote from: IanB on January 27, 2013, 04:52:25 pmWhich is also completely unpredictable.In this case there appear to be other factors like some hype built up by the product NOT being available, and forum talk etc.When I have specifically done videos on the uCurrent, IIRC sales didn't increase at all.Dave.

author: Spawn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 10:53:34 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 27, 2013, 10:40:09 pmDave I think he is referring toRobot Italy. uCurrent is there 62.30 euro’s and that makes 80.56 AUD, that is bit more than your price at your site.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 12:29:45 am
content: Quote from: Spawn on January 27, 2013, 10:53:34 pmAnd like I said, I do not control how much they mark it up.I sell the unit wholesale in Oz dollars, so the sale price will depend upon exchange rates and what their markup is.Yes, it's on the high side, but I can tell you that Robot Italy's markup is only 10% more than Adafruit's.Dave.

author: Spawn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 12:43:03 am
content: Oh don’t get me wrong, I didn’t want to say they are charging too much, I was just referring what Bloch mentioned

author: Bloch
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 06:27:33 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 28, 2013, 12:29:45 am1 US Dollar equals 0.74 Euro and 0.96 Australian Dollarrobot-italy = 69.26 US Dollaradafruit = 59.95 US DollarDifferens = 69.26/59.95 = 15,5%eevblog = 56.78 US DollarDifferens = 69.26/56.78 =21,97%That a bit more than 10%And that is OK. It was easier before the internet. Not so easy to see the differences in the world.

author: Bloch
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 06:40:12 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 27, 2013, 10:40:09 pmstore.embarcadero.comwww.cadsoft.deBut i can see it is not the case any more.

author: Spawn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 06:49:21 am
content: Bloch, I think it has something to do with the customs, we (Europeans) pay more customs than the US citizens, I am not sure how much more, so Robot Italy is adding the custom fees too. The thing is when you could order from Dave’s shop as a european, you had a chance to not get caught by the customs but if you did get caught you had to pay custom fee.

author: Bloch
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 07:05:35 am
content: Quote from: Spawn on January 28, 2013, 06:49:21 amYes that may be it. The last time i did had a talk about it, It was a problem software not hard ware

author: Soertier
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 03:41:16 pm
content: It's nice that it's up for sale in Europe, even if it has the notorious "higher" European price.If it's made in the EU it's expensive because it's made in Germany? If it's made in USA it's expensive because it's made in USA, if it's made in Australia it's expensive because it's made in Australia. If it's made in China it's expensive because 'they" had to rebrand it.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 06:23:56 pm
content: Quote from: Spawn on January 28, 2013, 06:49:21 amYup. And on top of that there is also a considerable VAT (in the 20% range).

author: Soertier
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 07:39:21 pm
content: Shipping is €19.32 to several countries.

author: ElectroIrradiator
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 12:32:55 pm
content: Sorry about the necro, but...Dave,You may want to check up on the hosting for the background article and related documentation for the uCurrent. There seem to be a problem with hosting of the alternatezone.com domain, so none of the project files hosted there are available to the curious public.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 12:41:41 pm
content: Yes, all my other sites are down at the moment, see my latest blog post.

author: ElectroIrradiator
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 02:13:57 pm
content: That sounds like a right mess, hope you get it sorted without having to waste too much time...

author: ddavidebor
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 03:24:49 pm
content: Roboitaly it's not famous to be the super cheapest place.

author: Sigmoid
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2013, 02:39:16 pm
content: Can we expect a re-run of the uCurrent in the near future?

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2013, 04:05:53 am
content: bump! Dave, do you know when they will be back in stock?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 29, 2013, 04:34:57 am
content: Quote from: george graves on August 29, 2013, 04:05:53 amThe current design, never.The new design Gold version, yes, soon, hopefully...

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2013, 04:41:37 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 29, 2013, 04:34:57 amThe other way of seeing this, the current old design is now officially turned into a "collector's item".

author: Brett
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2013, 08:43:26 pm
content: Hi Dave,Will you be shipping Gold units to the USA to Adafruit for resale as well?Does anyone in the USA want to sell me their working v3 µCurrent? I kind of need one immediately for some charge cycle testing. Hopefully I can get PMs here... if not, I'll be checking back frequently.Thanks ;-)

author: idpromnut
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 06, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
content: Not that it makes any difference, but I would love to have one of these in my arsenal of toolsI also have a few guys at the office that are curious

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 20, 2013, 11:13:41 am
content: Quote from: Brett on September 26, 2013, 08:43:26 pmEventually, yes. Kickstarter units get shipped first though.