I need to get a job in UK (or other angloparlant country) to continue my studies - Page 1
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author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 06:02:30 pm
content: Hello.I know this isn't a typical question, but I'm not sure where to ask and I'm feeling comfortable in this forum.I want to get a job elsewhere, in principle for this summer but maybe I can move there and continue my studies. There's high unemployment rate here and I lack formal studies. I haveADHDtoo.I know about computer repairing and maintaining, from Windows to Linux. I'm able to do basic electronics repairing and maintaining. I'm able to do heavy jobs (warehouse assistant, for example), I'm strong enough for it.I need to save money to be able to pay a private tutor and maybe some therapy, because I was unable to get a scholarship due to bureaucratic reasons (I gave late some papers and such). Anyway, the government was going to give me 2500 eur and that isn't enough to help my brain learn something, it's hard to understand if you don't suffer it (I get distracted and unmotivated easily and economical-familiar situation doesn't help too). Things are going downhill personally and at home and I want to change this situation as soon as possible! I depend on my mother and she gets a small widowI would prefer UK, because I know the language and can help me improve it too. I have issues speaking it, but I can improve fastly in two or three weeks there. I visited UK for 10 days (Liverpool, Manchester and Wirral) with a british exgf and finally was able to speak with people.I'm dark skinned and being an immigrant probably wouldn't make me very popular in some places, but I feeled comfortable being in Liverpool and Manchester. Even a british old fart tried to flirt with me!Where can I find some job? I wouldn't care Australia (your English is easier to understand for me!), but it seems it's very hard to enter there for unqualified jobs and the travel is more expensive.Kind regards.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 06:24:41 pm
content: If you are an EU citizen then moving to the UK or anywhere else in the EU is readily open to you due to freedom of movement. I know someone who has moved around from country to country wherever they could land a job.Australia is a different story: don't even think about it. The immigration rules are tight. In any case it is far away and you might end up feeling isolated and alone.For casual jobs in the UK the most available work will be manual and/or labouring jobs of the kind many people don't want to do. Possibly in agriculture.I'm not sure how you could get a job in IT. You would need contacts or a good track record with references.But the short answer is that in terms of relocation, there is no better opportunity than to be in the EU.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 07:31:49 pm
content: Don't rule out the NL; you can get around with English very easy. Besides that there are many Spanish people here already.

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 07:53:43 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on May 31, 2015, 07:31:49 pmI spent 18 months working in NL without learning much Dutch. I did try initially but everywhere I went people were far more keen to practice their English than I was to practice my Dutch.

author: Bob F.
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 08:10:30 pm
content: Quote from: Circuiteromalaguito on May 31, 2015, 06:02:30 pmThis is not an issue in the UK (as you already found for yourself, being flirted at!) - of course there are idiots everywhere, but you will find it difficult to find a more cosmopolitan place than a British city - for example, over a third of people currently living in London were born outside the UK.For jobs, London is the obvious candidate but be aware that London also has very high accommodation costs. Other large cities such as Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds etc will have opportunities but are quite a bit smaller (but have much cheaper accommodation and, many would argue, a better quality of life being less crowded and frenetic) than London. Jobs are varied, but without experience and qualifications, skilled jobs will probably not be available so lower paid jobs in retail (shops/bars etc -which might require reasonable English) or similar would be available and these kind of jobs do not leave much after accommodation and travel costs are included (at least, not in London!).You could also look for jobs aimed at native Spanish speakers. There is a large Spanish community in London (and other cities in the UK) so you may be able to obtain some assistance there.As an EU citizen you can apply to UK colleges and universities and are charged at the same rate as UK citizens (which is still not cheap however - but a lot cheaper than non-EU citizens).Ending on a down note: be aware that there are unscrupulous people who will offer you a good job and accommodation and will charge you a fee only to disappear with your money - or you arrive and find the job and accommodation are FAR inferior to what you were promised. While no legitimate job agency in the UK will charge you (the employee pays the agency), accommodation agencies will charge a small fortune (typically 1 to 2 month's rent - or more) and are not to be trusted at all.Good luck, Bob.

author: nuno
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 08:11:21 pm
content: I have a friend working in the UK (actually, more than one). He has only highschool. Last year he traveled to London and went to one of those outsourcing agencies (don't know the exact name there; here we call it "temporary work agency"); within 3 days of arriving to London he was offered a job at a hotel. It seems that being able to speak English reasonable well is a big plus for a candidate there.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 08:13:21 pm
content: How is Ireland holding up? it used to be pretty aggressive seeking technical workforce.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 08:21:23 pm
content: Quote from: Circuiteromalaguito on May 31, 2015, 06:02:30 pmHey that's not fair. Don't judge all English speakers in the UK by those in the north west. I agree Australian English is probably easier to understand than that spoken by those in Liverpool and Manchester but it's not as clear as Oxford English: think of BBC news.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 08:26:50 pm
content: Quote from: nuno on May 31, 2015, 08:11:21 pmIn Britain, "Temp agency". "Temping" is a verb for doing temporary, contract work through an agency.Reedis one of the better known ones, especially in London.

author: cs.dk
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 08:41:20 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on May 31, 2015, 08:21:23 pmMakes me think of this

author: JackP
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 09:17:38 pm
content: I once spent some time in the NL. Very friendly people, ~70-80% of whom speak English.

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2015, 09:38:11 pm
content: The big problem and the solution is money, so spending everything in accomodations can be useful only to learn spoken English. I might consider it too, it's very interesting to me.The idea was to able to save money to spend in studies in Spain (a private tutor is really expensive, but I need it until my brain is in good fit). I think studying abroad isn't realistic to me and I need to finish my vocational training school to be able to enter at an university. An university pass exam can be exhausting to me, I think.The big problem about living in UK is the expensive rents, right? How it's in NL and other places?Netherlands can be an okay place. Anyway, I see it's not as easy as some people said to me. I need to look more about it.Thanks a lot for your replies!

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 12:31:09 am
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on May 31, 2015, 08:54:04 pmMC, blimey, for those who don't like it they're free to leave you know, there's no Berlin wall here.If it is so shit, why is net migration so high?Look, I am not a UKIP type, but I do object to those who think the grass is always greener, slag everything off about their country, but then are quite happy to take all of the benefits that the country offers, and don't lift a finger to go to those apparently greener pastures.I also think you're completely overplaying the effect of any EU exit. Firstly, unless Greece goes completely Pete Tong during the referendum on exit, the UK won't leave. Secondly, if it does, nobody's going to be kicked out overnight.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 12:49:08 am
content: Quote from: Circuiteromalaguito on May 31, 2015, 09:38:11 pmIt very much depends where you are. If you're in central London yes the rents are outrageous. Outside of London apart from a few regional hotspots it's far more reasonable, but everything's relative.Regarding London, there are a _lot_ more opportunities than elsewhere, and for some lines of work in and around the capital it's not difficult to find work. There are a few other hotspots too, but typically with them come high rents. In London it's not atypical to have a long commute, some people commute three hours each way but it's not the norm. Having a car in London is often more of a liability, you're usually better off taking public transport.

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 10:22:58 am
content: You might desire an english speaking environment but what about a Spanish speaking economy elsewhere that has good standards of education, lower cost of living and is growing? Maybe some potential in South or Central America?Consider the harsh reality of financing UK course fees (because if traveling from the EU to the UK for education you won't be entitled to a loan) and the cost of accommodation and any treatment for your condition. It may prove prohibitive. There are plenty of jobs though, but maybe not for things you want to do in the medium or long term. Employment in the right job with the right surroundings might even eliminate the need for any formal treatment.As for the negative comments above on the UK, they could IMHO apply to quite a number of countries I've lived and worked in over the years that some people, maybe even posters on here, think are the ducks guts. I think they are hell on earth, ok to visit for a few weeks or months but a nightmare to exist in.I personally think the UK, as a whole, is a fantastic place to live, the foodisgreat, housingcanbe cheap, the air is clean, the seas are clean, the landscape is very green, there are masses of wide open spaces, lots of vibrant cities, lots of sport and culture, the government doesn't interfere too much, it's relatively crime free, the heath service is good (but could be better) higher education is good, employment opportunities across all skill levels quite wide and the welfare state is there to help out if things go wrong. I pity the poor bastards working their nuts off for decades in boring dead end jobs with massive rents or mortgages to support, often with long commutes on busy roads or packed public transport into places like London but those circumstances apply to loads of places across the globe. It's not all like that and I wouldn't change it long term for anywhere else.My country is f*cking brilliant

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 10:32:19 am
content: Quote from: m100 on June 01, 2015, 10:22:58 amIn that case I'd target the South-west coast in the US (California). Spanish (Mexican) has become the second language over there.

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 02:26:21 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on June 01, 2015, 12:31:09 amJust because one thing: UNEMPLOYMENT.You can be comfortable in your city, but things go shit in all aspects if there a big unemployment rate or you are unable to get a job because whatever reasons. That's the primary reason people emigrate to other places, you can't live well enough without an adecuate personal economy.I'm really scared about future politics in UK and Cameron is a dangerous bastard(like most politicians, but right wing ones are becoming very powerful and they go to neoliberalism and it is very dangerous for society (it just created a plutocracy of corporations or "corporatocracy"). Maybe UK will back to Margaret Thatcher days, and those were very dark ages. That will be quite bad for the country in the long term, they evolved thanks to lots of immigration. If done properly (avoid marginalization, promote integrating into society and learning), it's good for economic, cultural and genetic reasons.Quote from: Howardlong on June 01, 2015, 12:49:08 amPlease define relativity. What's the minimum salary in UK? What's the range of cost of a rent? Are there some numbers out there? It may seem stupid, but most stuff I find in English is related to tech so maybe I lack the vocabulary and knowledge to find that information.I just found the following, but I yet have to get some meaning on it.https://www.gov.uk/minimum-wage-different-types-work/paid-an-annual-salaryhttps://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-ratesI would like to see examples and some more numbers. Here in my city you could get paid 700-1000 eur for an average job, but these days is more near the minimum and they often do some illegal stuff such as not paying extra hours. The rent can cost 300-500 eur, you can get a studio apartment for 400 eur at the city center if you find enough.Quote from: m100 on June 01, 2015, 10:22:58 amSome people say the same about my city, but I really dislike it. Tons of unemployment and no real cultural offers other than expensive museums and ridicule touristic stuff. Tons of nearly illiterate people and cultural activities in the technical field are very difficult to find. There's tons of drugs and homeless people too. Schools and universities are getting less and less money each year and some schools are in very awful conditions (very crowded classes, for example). Even public libraries are closed in August!On the other half, I really liked Liverpool and in some way other places (I visited Wirral, Manchester, Chester, Liverpool). But I really liked Liverpool or at least what I did see in only some days, people were quite nice and more open minded than the English stereotype.I'm vegan too and it's very easy to eat here, you just need to avoid the some of the native food and all is fine. I think even british were aware their food sucks so much (fish & chips, wtf?) and they imported tons of stuff since their colonialism days. Sorry if I offended british people but I often see british ones here in "Costa Del Sol" that eat and drink like there's no tomorrow and say our food is very good (I don't fully agree with them, but I'm biased because I'm a "hippie").Quote from: nctnico on June 01, 2015, 10:32:19 amTravel is quite expensive because distance, so it's a more difficult investment and would require some savings. I would prefer to improve my English, but main goal is get money and be able to continue my studies without getting insane (literally).

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 03:14:15 pm
content: Quote from: Circuiteromalaguito on June 01, 2015, 02:26:21 pmFish and chips, wrapped in paper, eaten in the open air, preferably looking out to sea or across a harbour in the UK can be one of the best meals you ever have. It is however essential the fish and the chips are properly fried in beef dripping and not vegetable oil.For ball park figures for cost of living across the world this is a useful sitehttp://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/Minimum UK wageshttps://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates

author: JackP
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 03:25:08 pm
content: Quote from: m100 on June 01, 2015, 03:14:15 pm+1, plus here there is a diverse range of restaurants selling traditional foods. Don't forget that you are not restricted to what you eat, you could always cook!

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 03:26:06 pm
content: Quote from: Circuiteromalaguito on June 01, 2015, 02:26:21 pmCameron doesn't want the UK to leave the EU.If you think that times were bad under Thatcher, do some research about what they were like before that, the time that I was growing up. We didn't know when we would have electricity for a lot of the 1970s. We also knew quite often that we wouldn't have electricity. Times under Thatcher were when the economy of the UK was made healthy, our national debt started to be paid off, living within our means instead of borrowing for the future. If you want a good idea of what happens when a government borrows too much money and then there is a downturn, have a look at the situation in Spain right now.For some research on rents, then use:-rightmove.co.uk to look up prices in an area you're interested in.

author: Mechanical Menace
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 03:48:31 pm
content: Quote from: m100 on June 01, 2015, 03:14:15 pmNooo! On your knees in front of the telly. Eating outside is for animals and troglodytes!QuoteBut most of the best chippies are well inland, far from the coast.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 03:58:00 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 01, 2015, 09:22:15 amWould you care to state exactly what you are trying to state here? I may have it wrong, but it seems that you are making an accusation of racism when there wasn't any. I sincerely hope that I have misunderstood, and indeed I apologise if I have, but that was not my intention. If you do think there was any racism, I suggest that you re-read what I said, and let me know what you think was racist about it.

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 04:17:12 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 01, 2015, 03:45:15 pmWhy not just shout "Thatcher, Thatcher, milk snatcher?"We have never had a perfect government, we never will have a perfect government, but Thatcher and Major that followed have been the best in my lifetime....and fish and chips are great, leanign against a harbour wall watching the waves break and you put the foundations in the stomach on which to build the evening's drinking.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 04:24:52 pm
content: Quote from: KJDS on June 01, 2015, 03:26:06 pmIndeed, doing homework by candlelight was something of a rite of passage for a child growing up in the 70's...

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 04:30:18 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 01, 2015, 03:45:15 pmWere you there before and after 1979 when those events happened? Because if you weren't, I don't think you can really appreciate what times were like.And just to mention, it is everyday people who desire to own homes and cars and other things. They don't need to be told that by politicians.

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 04:33:24 pm
content: Quote from: Mechanical Menace on June 01, 2015, 03:48:31 pmOn your knees in front of the telly is the preferred option if, in the depths of winter, you have just got back from somewhere much hotter, then spent 20+ hours on a plane and a couple of hours driving. For the rest of the year all bets are off.Eating fish and chips outside, with a setting sun, endless blue sky, with a slight chill in the air is for this animal/troglodyte. I slummed it in Oz when it was 30+ deg C. Everything cooked in veg oil, chips too thin, no idea of fish species but it wasn't like anything caught in the North Atlantic or North Sea.Agree about the location of some of the best chippies, I have my favourites on the coast but one a very long way from the sea is IMHO the best place on earth for them. The location will remain a closely guarded secret.

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 05:36:07 pm
content: Quote from: m100 on June 01, 2015, 03:14:15 pmI disliked consider beef/pork drippings when frying even years before becoming vegan, we are too much into olive oil here. I hate the taste of it, and find it quite unhealthy too. But I suposse that's a personal opinionThanks for your sites!I found really bad news in Numbeo...(red is more expensive, greener is cheaper)And there's sites about unemployment rates...http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.UEM.TOTL.ZS?order=wbapi_data_value_2013+wbapi_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=aschttp://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=74(CIA world factbook? Well, I suposse they know "everything"...)The idea is about having a good compromise between wage rate, Comsumer Prise Plus Rent, low employment rate and a country where I'm somewhat able to stay without a constant dying risk. I suposse this is too much to consider!I'm unable to get a proper idea about this, but it seems Germany has a low unemployent rate (5.3%) and it has some "greener" places.To much data to process!

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 06:46:01 pm
content: The areas where it is cheap to live won't have good well paid work. The areas with plenty of well paid work won't be cheap to live.

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 07:26:22 pm
content: Quote from: KJDS on June 01, 2015, 06:46:01 pmWell, that's a damn dilemma! How to find a job and a place to live there while saving money? I suposse reduce spending in an extreme way, even at the cost of an awful diet. These things worry me a lot...Maybe my questions sound stupid for others, but I never did this before...

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 09:14:41 pm
content: You can rent a room, or do they call it hire a room?But not sure if you still need to put coins in the heater (kind of kidding)

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 10:00:07 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 01, 2015, 09:42:04 pmGood, but that does not explain why you felt the need to bring up racism at all. Racism is a very strong term to use, I would be exceptionally careful about using it in the way you did: morals aside, it is also an illegal act in the UK. Carelessly bandying the word around randomly at the drop of a hat regrettably only degrades the real meaning of the term.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 10:16:30 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 01, 2015, 09:49:18 pmMight I remind you it was also the Conservative government that removed mortgage tax relief, thereby increasing the cost of mortgages and putting downward pressure on house prices.The cost of housing in the UK relates to supply and demand. Supply is limited by the insistence on preserving "green belt", a policy supported by all parties.There is also an issue in London of speculative investment by overseas buyers. The government could change that situation by imposing a punitive tax on unoccupied properties, a surprising oversight given the "if it moves, tax it" philosophy usually applied by the Exchequer.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 10:22:45 pm
content: Leeds was mentioned.Rent is pretty cheap here, I pay currently £60 per week without bills for a shared house, I'm moving to a place that's £80 per week including bills,internet, TV.Shared house = Four rooms, you get one plus shared kitchen and two shower/bathrooms, typically.Meet the people you move in with first, but most are nice guys and gals. Been in several so far.Job availaibility? Leeds isn't huge for EEng, but Manchester and surrounding areas are. All accessible by train. I work in Steeton, West Yorks for a large manufacturer of consumer electronics. The train is only 30 minutes, and very fast, electric, quiet, comfortable & almost always on time. (Sadly, I can't say the same of the inner-city train from Burley! But you can use the buses, if you like...)Universities are probably one of the biggest engineering employers around here.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2015, 10:31:22 pm
content: Quote from: IanB on June 01, 2015, 10:16:30 pmI was discussing this last week with a friend of mine from Sydney where they have a similar problem. Certainly here in London I am surrounded by unoccupied residences, bought purely for investment, and with near zero interest rates and lacklustre stock markets you can understand why. They're not even rented out. In Australia I understand that they are looking at bringing in punitive measures to prevent it, I wish they'd do the same here, it's in danger of becoming a residential ghost city.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2015, 06:01:33 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 02, 2015, 08:44:14 amAs I have already suggested, if you refrain from dropping in "racism" at the drop of a hat when it has no relevance, may I respectfully suggest that it might help. It's not exactly the first time you've done this and tried to play it off as almost a throwaway comment. If you think that the use of such vernacular shouldn't draw a reaction, then I don't think there's anything further to say, we will have to agree to disagree, and we can all draw our own conclusions.

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2015, 09:13:30 pm
content: Hello to everyone.I found the political conversation to be quite interesting, but it would be nice to talk about the main topic too.I find the home and car ownership obsession quite similar to some of the issues in Spain, but our bank situation is extremelly corrupt and insane. Finally lots of people have lost their homes because that and a very unstable employment ecosystem full of bubbles.I find the situation to emigrate for just being able to work to be quite stressing, but I'm seeing there's no opportunities here. I would do it to know other cultures and learn languages, but this is a tough situation that's forcing me to choose alternatives in an extreme way.Our right wing government says Spain can recover in 2019, they lied to us tons of times about that. Our country needs an extremelly massive change that's not going to be done in DECADES. I have no hopes in the new political parties, they just want their seat in exchange of doing just to some moderate changes.I don't want to rob the "precious jobs" to natives, I just want to improve muy situation and be able to be emancipated. I'm really tired of living with muy mother and needing part of her low salary to subsist and try to improve myself. I lost the scholarship and the bureacratic procedure to get it back can take years to finish.So that's why I'm asking everyone about advices. Right now I need to get some job that's easy to get for me and be able to save some money to continue my personal development. I see renting a room to be an interesting option, despite I would dislike to share a bathroom.I found these services, mostly targeted to UK:http://uk.easyroommate.comhttp://www.spareroom.co.ukhttp://www.roommatesuk.comhttps://www.housepals.co.ukhttp://www.getaroommate.co.ukhttp://kangaroom.nethttp://www.flatshare.com

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2015, 10:05:20 pm
content: If you want help finding somewhere to live in the Leeds area, I know a lot of people... Gumtree is a good site to find house shares on but beware of scammers, NEVER put a deposit down on a room you have not seen. There are a surplus of properties in many university towns, which means rents are generally low. The exception is London, and as a result London is very expensive to live in.Its very rare to find ensuite bathrooms (one bathroom per room) in any cheap areas of an old town like Leeds, London, etc. as most houseshares are based on conversions from Victorian and prewar accomodation, typically the house will have been for a small family or shared amongst a group so one or two bathrooms is pretty typical. Most of them are based on loft conversions too, so the loft rooms are often small.

author: Mechanical Menace
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2015, 11:21:28 pm
content: Honestly I'd avoid here. Almost everyone is prejudiced against "others," not just the natives. In fact a lot of the immigrants are worse, especially if they're not actually immigrants but their children and grandchildren*. Anything that people can use to dehumanise others and ghetoise themselves they will.*Just to clarify, I am one of those grandchildren.

author: Bob F.
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2015, 08:58:17 am
content: Quote from: Circuiteromalaguito on June 02, 2015, 09:13:30 pmCheck their charges and as already said, do not put out any money for rent until you have visited the location. Google the hell out of any company you may want to do business with as overseas accommodation is one of the major scam areas on the web.One possibility may be to contact the Spanish community in the UK - I'm sure there must be a website or two for Spanish ex-patriots who can advise what your best options may be.Cheers, Bob.

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2015, 07:42:07 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 02, 2015, 08:44:14 amNo, it's you with your daily PolCo trolling that is specifically trying to bring the discussion in the racist corner, and it's you that does efforts to make discussion difficult that way.

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2015, 07:46:21 pm
content: Quote from: Circuiteromalaguito on June 02, 2015, 09:13:30 pmAround Brussels there were a lot of spanish tech/engineers working in construction and construction machines. Often english was a problem, but you seem good at that. Aren't there outsourcing agencies in your country that send people around the world? That could make it easyer for you, they have housing and moving experience.

author: XynxNet
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2015, 08:20:13 pm
content: You mentioned Germany....Those green places, especially in eatern germany, are those with lower average wages.In addition speaking at least some german is more or less mandatory if you want to get a job here.I don't know about your condition, but if you do learn german, there is a good chance of getting an apprenticehip here. In addition education is free in germany.

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2015, 10:51:07 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on June 02, 2015, 10:05:20 pmThanks. That's very interesting!Now I need to find some job there. As my spoken English needs improvement, I think I would need to find some job such as stock clerk or warehouse worker but I'm not sure the availability of them.What do you people think? I'm not an EE, I just have unfinished electronics studies and experience at computer repairing.@Bob F.I'm aware about scams, it happened to some people I know. But I'll take care of thatI'll research about Spanish expat communities, I remember to read them some time ago. Thanks for your suggestion!@GalenboMy spoken English needs lots of improvement and I'm not sure if my current skills are enough to get a job as a technician.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2015, 04:47:29 am
content: Quote from: m100 on June 01, 2015, 10:22:58 am+1.The best small wheel bikes in the world were designed by Brits, Moulton, Ritchie and Sanders. Chapeau!

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2015, 06:45:20 am
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 03, 2015, 10:01:01 pmYes you did try, but you did not fully succeed.Quote from: mojo-chan on June 03, 2015, 10:01:01 pmQuote from: mojo-chan on June 01, 2015, 09:22:15 amSorry for my poor reading comprehension skills, but this is what I read.Quote from: mojo-chan on June 03, 2015, 10:01:01 pmAnd sorry for my low level.

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2015, 06:54:50 am
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 03, 2015, 10:01:01 pmLet's also assume good faith from a daily practicing pedophile, when there's something ambiguous or unexpectedly harsh then it's probably the interpretation that is lacking.

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2015, 01:44:28 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 04, 2015, 08:50:11 amI think it's 15-20% as good as my written English, but anxiety and lack of practice made it worse. Anyway, I'm not scared to talk anymore.

author: timofonic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 02:42:44 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on June 04, 2015, 02:15:58 pmWow, those are surprising news!BBC is another government tool, but it's 50000% better than the best TV/news agencies here. At least they have some good cultural stuff and even somehow care of education with some quality content. Ours are full of shit, with poorly made stuff all the time and the educational stuff is mediocre or even worse.Now I'll find the impossible: Get a job before going to UK (or any other angloparlant country) or get a job to save some money and find it there.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 03:13:27 pm
content: Ok, Spain and the UK are horrible places, got it, thanks for warning us.Seriously, an international forum like this one is not a good place to bad mouth one's home country.

author: Mechanical Menace
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 08:02:58 pm
content: Quote from: zapta on June 06, 2015, 03:13:27 pmBeing honest about the downfalls is the first step towards fixing them. It's not saying there aren't good things about the place.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 09:31:37 pm
content: Quote from: Mechanical Menace on June 06, 2015, 08:02:58 pmI don't think they are after 'fixing'