Bullard QXT? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2023, 11:36:44 pm
content: Hi guys.I just saw a Bullard QXT on ebay, and as spec manual says, it have NETD < 30mk, what core does it use?Thanks.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 12:28:20 pm
content: Bullard have used different brands of thermal imaging core over the years, the last Bullard Eclipse I dismantled contained the L3 Nano Core. That may, or may not, be the core used in the NXT/QXT cameras.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/inside-a-poorly-bullard-eclipse-ld-320-and-its-l3-thermal-eye-nanocore-by-fraser/msg2864972/#msg2864972Some warnings if you are thinking of buying a Bullard Eclipse/NXT/QXT…….1. Bullard tend to be quite Bullish in their specifications in order to impress potential buyers. NETD is a much touted specification to claim market advantage, but all is not as it seems in some cases. There have been threads discussing this in the past.2. The Eclipse/NXT/QXT is a camera designed for a specific role. It is not as versatile as a more generic thermal camera as a result. It is good at what it was designed to achieve though.3. Bullard are very strict on use of their image download and configuration software. Your camera cannot operate with their software until they have approved your right to use it. This may be a loss prevention and recovery technique as fire fighting cameras do get stolen. The software “phones home” regularly and Bullard will be made aware if you try to change your cameras configuration or hack the software ! Even the sales agents get a phone call if Bullard see them making changes in the cameras configuration !4. Bullard may choose to “blacklist” your camera if they do not ‘like you’ having it. I have not found them the easiest company to deal with, even after recovering a stolen Eclipse for them.Fraser

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 01:21:18 pm
content: Thank you!I would hesitate if the core is unknown, because my goal is to take the core out and configure as I like.Your point 3 and 4 are news to me, that's some disgusting things done by a company.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 01:46:07 pm
content: Not a camera I would recommend for core harvesting as the core configuration utility is not in the public domain. We have the utility for the Thermal Eye 4500 and earlier but not the Nano (as far as I am aware anyway)I collect the Bullard Eclipse cameras as I love the case design ! I buy any that I can afford, but sadly the only NXT that I have seen recently is well above my budget. If the QXT is reasonable money, I would be interested in it !Fraser

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2023, 03:42:24 pm
content: Well here's the ebay listing:https://www.ebay.com/itm/266377945692?I don't know the seller and it's bidding instead of buy-it-now.Good luck anyway, hope we can see your tear down

author: ArsenioDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2023, 01:15:54 am
content: Oh that VERY much looks like the output of a ULIS ASi detector.

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2023, 05:23:38 am
content: Wait, from here (page 7) it's an VOX?https://api.bullard.com/files/literature/TI_QXT_USERMANUAL_AM_EN_0718_60510011281B.pdfSo not a L3 Nano or ULIS ASi?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2023, 12:00:43 pm
content: Hmm , as I said, Bullard have used different vendors cores in their cameras over the years. They used to use FLIR TAU cores prior to the L3 Nano. A little voice in my head is saying that the latest models use a DRS core but I cannot recall where I heard that. I had a chat with the UK sales agent when I returned the stolen Eclipse to him so it may have come up during that conversation. Sadly I can offer no definite identity for the core that they have used. It would be a risk to buy that camera if you need to reconfigure it’s core for other duties. If you did buy it, I would happily purchase the casing from youThe seller does not ship internationally (and he is quite correct in that policy) so I will not be buying that camera.Fraser

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2023, 01:10:47 pm
content: Thank you!I won't buy it either because of unknown core inside

author: ArsenioDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2023, 05:24:36 pm
content: Quote from: Fraser on August 20, 2023, 12:00:43 pmIf it's a STA-1 country, all it needs is a signed end user consignee statement submitted to BIS to be fully on the up and up.