Copy rights  and piracy  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Inverted18650
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 05:09:09 am
content: I wonder how Dave and the gang control all the YouTube copycats that replay their videos? I've seen several other channels scavenge EEBlog vids, group them together, and repost the content. This has got be a royal pain the in the arse.I ask all viewers to check the "author" , see who is steaming the videos you're watching, and make sure the content is from the original publishers; not some two-bit hack that tries to profit from other people's hard work and dedication.

author: NottheDan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 07:05:54 am
content: Uh, what has that to do with copywriting?

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 07:41:52 am
content: Quote from: NottheDan on May 29, 2017, 07:05:54 amSome users may not be knowledgeable enough to know the meaning of copywriter: one who writes copy (text) in advertisements.Or they are just careless and don't care about the confusion caused by their misspelling.

author: Inverted18650
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 03:22:37 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on May 29, 2017, 05:47:37 amThere are several YouTubers who have copied and reposted Daves videos and list them "in order" and have grouped them into "watchlists." Maybe they have permission to group them up and rebroadcast them, maybe not. But if the content maker gets paid per view, if I watch 10 hours of EEV blog-"in Order" on another channel, the EEV Blog itself, gets no credit for those views.As for copy rights, that may not be the correct wording...I am human, mistakes happen, but you get the jest of it. (I meant to type, copy rights instead of copywrites). I am not in the broadcasting industry and don't know the terminology they use to protect video content from unauthorized reproduction/ distribution. I careless idiot, however, I am not.

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 03:34:49 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on May 29, 2017, 05:47:37 amThat is what patents are exactly for - protection of ideas. A completely different discussion from copyright and Youtube videos, though.

author: Inverted18650
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 03:47:26 pm
content: Quote from: janoc on May 29, 2017, 03:34:49 pmNow you've confused me. Patents protect products, correct? Copyrights protect content, like the videos Dave makes. Is that correct? And Dave should be able to have any unauthorized redistribution of his material removed from YouTube under copyright laws.

author: NottheDan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 06:24:24 pm
content: Quote from: Inverted18650 on May 29, 2017, 03:22:37 pmPlaylists have nothing to do with copying and reposting of content. They are just a list of links to the videos on them. Everybody can make their own playlists for personal use, to share with friends or to make public. You do not require permission of the videos' publishers to make a list of your favourite mailbags and share it with the world.

author: stj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 06:58:33 pm
content: best to turn a blind eye to it,if you make a fuss things can get pretty F'd-up real fast!!http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1210-youtube-disabled

author: Inverted18650
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 07:02:41 pm
content: That's not what I mean. I don't want to copy and paste the link from the other channels here because I don't want to advertise the other channels. I am talking about the people who group the EEV Blog episodes into playlists and post them for viewing on their channel in order to get "views" for their personal channel. They get paid by YouTube for posting the EEV content because people click the video and watch it on their channel instead of the EEV channel.My point is, if your watching EEV Blog videos, make sure your watching them on the EEV YouTube channel, not a repost from another channel. That is all.I think I'll take the advise and leave it alone.

author: stj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 07:20:47 pm
content: that's not a channel, it's a guy explaining how his material got hijacked & the thief actually killed his original channel!!

author: Inverted18650
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 29, 2017, 09:38:12 pm
content: Me? Channel...yeah right. Unless you like to see soldiers kicking in or blowing doors clean off, I have no content to provide.This topic is officially dead in the water....may it Rest In Peace.Quote from: stj on May 29, 2017, 07:20:47 pm

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2017, 09:45:50 am
content: Quote from: Inverted18650 on May 29, 2017, 03:47:26 pmNo, patents do not protect any products. Patent is essentially a government issued paper that grants you an exclusive use of a newideafor some time in exchange for publishing it (as opposed to keeping it secret). The original goal was to foster innovation so that inventors could improve on previously discovered work. That idea doesn't need to be realized in a product to be patentable (and thus protectable). Even very abstract things like software algorithms (which is essentially pure math) can be patented in some countries (US, for example). Specific DNA sequences in some laboratory mice have been patented, as well as DNA for some man-engineered herbicide resistant varieties of corn and soya beans (Monsanto is well known for this - also for suing over it). You can also protect something like a specific electronic circuit design and anyone wanting to use it needs to license it from you, otherwise you could sue them.I have glossed over a lot of details like prior art, patent trolls and enforceability of patents, but that's off topic. There is plenty of info out there on what patents are.OTOH, copyright is a different beast - all a copyright does is grant the copyright holder (usually author of the work but not always) the right to controldistribution(= copying) of that work. It doesn't protect an idea (someone else can freely do a video on the same topic!), it always protects concrete work from unauthorized distribution. And yes, that's exactly what Dave could do if he wanted (and had time) to play whack-a-mole with these guys on Youtube - he could flag their stuff, but, ultimately, unless he has plenty of money for lawyers and sues them, it wouldn't help much. They could repost the stuff to Vimeo or elsewhere.