DS1054Z hack still good? - Page 1
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author: worsthorse
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2017, 01:10:03 am
content: Good morning. Getting ready to buy a DS1054Z. Has anyone gotten the upgrade installed on the latest firmware version? Saw some posts that suggested it did not work. Also... can someone save me a couple of hours by pointing me toward the latest version of the hack? Thanks!

author: BloodyCactus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2017, 02:21:49 am
content: I mean, if your going to use the hack and save a couple of hundred dollars on options and bandwidth you could do a little research yourself maybe? Its not that hard to do a little reading on last couple of pages of the existant thread is it?

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2017, 02:37:43 am
content: search for riglol including the misspelling here or on Googleremember, the option is DSER - nothing else. Don't get creative! Yes, I know DSER isn't a listed option. Search for the term here on EEVbloghttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-'unlock'-source-code-archive/

author: worsthorse
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2017, 03:55:03 am
content: rstofer - thanks for the pointer. will do.bloodycactus, i've done the research, including on this website. there is conflicting info. if you can't be helpful, why expend the energy needed to chastise me?cheers - bill

author: Dan Moos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2017, 04:18:19 am
content: I agree, every thread on the matter is hard to wade through because of thread creep.I searched YouTube instead. A few options, but one was the best by far (showed a clear screenshot of the website you need.)Not sure what all the cloak and dagger is at this point. Fear that the rug will get pulled out I suppose, which I guess is reasonable. I have never found clear step by step directions on the matter here, just hints on how to google it. I'll play along, and just say if you search YouTube, the best tutorial is one of the top hits. There is one that gave an obsolete website, so just try another if you happen to go there first.I got my 1054 a few days ago, and achieved your goal with no problems.Hints I've gathered here:When filling out the fields in the website that will not be mentioned here, erase the entire field (there will be stuff in it already, and even if parts of it are part of the stuff you want to enter, I've heard you still want clear each field entirely before typing in your info)Follow the DSER advice. There will be a DSFR option that looks right, but it includes a feature your scope can't do in hardware. I think its been shown to only be problematic if you try to use that feature, but rather than add the complication, use the DSER code. It won't be one of the choices shown, but it is the one you want.Another possible point of confusion. I used my smart phone to do it, and when the window with the code popped up, the first batch of digits was only visible when I tilted the phone into landscape mode. Confused the crap out of me at first. I advise doing it on a PC to dodge any such confusion.Good luck!

author: worsthorse
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2017, 05:46:06 am
content: Thanks Dan... good to know that you accomplished the task with little problem. I did some more slogging through the threads here and tracked down the correct website (there seems to be more than one now, not sure that all are valid), along with the archived exe and bin files for local use. I did a test run of both the mac and windows versions and both seem to work. Because I am paranoid, I will run both versions of local (along with the website) and see if I get the same code before punching any numbers in. I just ordered my scope, so it will be a week or so before I can test. Will post results here.

author: Chopsticks
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2017, 06:12:57 am
content: i just picked up a Ds1054Z a few days ago and i can confirm that using the riglol site and the 'DSER' option that everything works fine. like mentioned above dont use DSFR as this scope won't work with the '500uV Vertical' option.DSFR enables everything including that 500uV Vertical option but the scope won't work properly with it (check other thread for details)DSER will enable everything BUT the 500uV Vertical option so thats the option to choose

author: Morty
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 28, 2017, 10:57:29 am
content: I picked up a DS1054Z today with 00.04.04.SP1 firmware and board version 0.1.4, I updated the firmware to 00.04.04.SP3 before using the DSER code, everything is working fine.Edit: URL removed after reading Dans post, sorry if I broke any rules posting it.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2017, 12:51:55 pm
content: Quote from: Morty on April 28, 2017, 10:57:29 amI am not aware of any rules against posting a link to the "riglol" site; not sure where Dan got that impression.Let me try, in the spirit of experimental verification:http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/

author: mikeev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 04:54:13 am
content: hello,I've got a DS1054Z.Before upgrading the hack was working perfectly.After upgrade to sofware version 00.04.04.SP3 (the latest version availbable, it seems).The hack does not work for me. Serial generated is unuseful.Am I the only person who has the problem ?Please help.Board 0.1.4Friendly greetings

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 02:28:15 pm
content: Quote from: mikeev on June 17, 2017, 04:54:13 amThat is strange. In my experience, updating the firmware has always kept the previously enabled options intact. (Although I have not upgraded to the latest firmware yet.) There was no need to re-enter the option key. Did you do a factory reset before or after the upgrade, maybe?Anyway, there have been quite a few reports about upgrade keys which did not work -- these issues were unrelated to firmware updates. The usual advice, which seems to have worked in all cases:- Make sure you do not misspell any letters when entering the key.- Refresh the RIGLOL web page and try to generate the key again.- Try another browser and try to generate the key again.- Download the executable for the key generator and run it locally.Good luck! I am optimistic that one of the above will work for you as well.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 02:55:14 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on June 17, 2017, 02:28:15 pmYep. No need for new codes.

author: mikeev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 03:11:26 pm
content: thanks for your answers.What I did before the upgrade:SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTallbecause I had activated previously the option not supported by the hardware.Serial is generated using command line under linux.I obtain the same serial using web page.Trial is done.Still no luck.any more idea ?

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 04:17:11 pm
content: Quote from: mikeev on June 17, 2017, 03:11:26 pmI think the most likely cause would be that you have either misread (or mistyped) the scope's serial number, or misread (or entered incorrectly) the generated option key. I don't recall ever reading about a case where the options were really no longer working.The serial number is printed on the physical label on the back of the scope, too. Some characters can be hard to read in the small screen font.To enter the option key, you can also use the telnet command :SYSTem:OPTion:INSTall, instead of the error-prone entry via the encoder knob.Good luck!

author: mikeev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 04:30:08 pm
content: Hello,I've used the CLI to install serial.All data are cut/paste from CLI (serial number, key).No way.I don't think I press the wrong keys.Scope does not beep when I enter serial using CLI or control panel.May I try downgrade scope to previous version of my firmware ?When I put on a usb pen and old firmware from archive hxxp:--www.gotroot.ca-rigol- I'm warned that is older.But the Install option is still proposed.I don't dare go further with the old firmwares from the archive.I'm searching the previous version of my scope :versions 00.04.04.sp1Firmware_00.04.04.01.01May be someone could share the file ? I can't find it.I would be very kind.Help is welcome.Thanks to everyone on this forum which is just great !

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 04:36:16 pm
content: Quote from: mikeev on June 17, 2017, 04:30:08 pmI have a copy of that file. Don't want to post it here, but if you PM me your email address, I'm happy to send it.However, people have generally reported that the firmware loader refuses a downgrade. Worth a try anyway, I suppose.

author: mikeev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 04:43:23 pm
content: MP sent

author: mikeev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 06:27:51 pm
content: hi,Thank you for firmware.I could not downgrade.The thing which suprises me is that when I enter the key code, I have no beep, or no box saying it is locked. Nothing happens.Is it the same for everyone ?Friendly greetings

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 06:32:51 pm
content: Quote from: mikeev on June 17, 2017, 06:27:51 pmIt's not possible to downgrade.Quote from: mikeev on June 17, 2017, 06:27:51 pmDo you have a beep or a box if you enter a garbage code?

author: mikeev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 06:35:43 pm
content: no. when I enter code using CLI or control panel no bip, nothing happens when I validate.The same thing happens if the code is good, or is not.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 08:01:34 pm
content: Quote from: mikeev on June 17, 2017, 06:35:43 pmAre you sure the codes are removed? (screenshot?) Try removing them again.Did you do factory reset? (power off, press the magic button quickly after you power it on again).If none of that works than I don't know what to do. You're the first person this happened to.

author: mikeev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2017, 07:37:57 am
content: Hi,here is what I"ve tried:scope is powered on since more than 12 hours1/ :SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTallscope beeps and display "Official options have been removed!"2/ Power Off/Waiting/Power On3/ Factory ResetDisplay is in chineese4/ Power off / PoweronSelect english, and activate sound"Installed Options" displays for each line :"version: trial, Left-Time: Trial Done"5/ *IDN?#RIGOL TECHNOLOGIES,DS1054Z,DS1ZAxxxxxxxxx,00.04.04.SP36/ Generate key using linux utility (cutting/paste serial number) using DSER7/ entering cle (cutting:paste from 6):SYST:OPT:INST xxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxxno beep, nothing happensstill no options installed.Even when I input garbage using control panel nothing happens.Don't know what to do anymore.greetings

author: Andrew8086
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2017, 08:00:34 am
content: Please try this:To install the 28-character key (4 groups of 7 charsbut with no hyphens) use:SYSTem:OPTion:INSTall XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX=> If this doesn't work, enter key on device directly

author: A Hellene
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2017, 09:19:38 am
content: I have just verified that the hack works fine (Board: v0.1.1) with the latest firmware (00.04.04.03.02).Maybe you have downloaded a corrupted version of the KeyGen...There is some experimantal information I have found out, additional to the already posted information at the hack thread:Code:--Binary value assigned to each letter:A = 00000 | J = 01000 | S = 10000 | 2 = 11000B = 00001 | K = 01001 | T = 10001 | 3 = 11001C = 00010 | L = 01010 | U = 10010 | 4 = 11010D = 00011 | M = 01011 | V = 10011 | 5 = 11011E = 00100 | N = 01100 | W = 10100 | 6 = 11100F = 00101 | P = 01101 | X = 10101 | 7 = 11101G = 00110 | Q = 01110 | Y = 10110 | 8 = 11110H = 00111 | R = 01111 | Z = 10111 | 9 = 11111First character: D = official, V = trial--Options:DSAB (00011 10000 00000 00001): Official: Advanced TriggersDSAC (00011 10000 00000 00010): Official: DecodersDSAE (00011 10000 00000 00100): Official: 24M MemoryDSAJ (00011 10000 00000 01000): Official: RecorderDSAS (00011 10000 00000 10000): Official: DGDSBA (00011 10000 00001 00000): Official: 500uV VerticalDSCA (00011 10000 00010 00000): Official: Power AnalyserDSEA (00011 10000 00100 00000): Official: Bandwidth 100 MHzDSJA (00011 10000 01000 00000): Official: Bandwidth 70 MHzDSSA (00011 10000 10000 00000): Official: Invalid / reserved licenseDSH9 (00011 10000 00111 11111): Official: All options (-70M) <-- This is what I have installed!DSR9 (00011 10000 01111 11111): Official: All options (+70M)DS99 (00011 10000 11111 11111): Official: All optionsVSAA (10011 10000 00000 00000): Trial: +36 hours extension for all the options--CMD::SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTall:SYSTem:OPTion:INSTall <license>:SYSTem:OPTion:INSTall xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (DSH9: All options except the 70M bandwidth)By the way, the 500uV option works fine, even if it is really useless because that range comes from the (HMCAD1511: 8-bit, 30M..1GSa/s, 1x..50x Digital Gain, Multi-mode (Single-Dual-Quad) ADC) ADC chip internal digital gain feature, without really representing any useful data since the ENOB is decreased as digital gain is increased (according to the ADC data sheet, the 7.9 bits resolution at 1x gain (5mV range) goes down to 7.11 actual bits at 10x gain for the 0.5mV range)...-George

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2017, 10:10:20 am
content: Quote from: mikeev on June 18, 2017, 07:37:57 amDon't put hyphens.:SYST:OPT:INST xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

author: mikeev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2017, 10:14:18 am
content: yes ! Great ! Fantastic !Using control panel nothing happens.But without hyphen using CLI it does the job !Thanks to everyone who helped and the others too !I'm so happy !

author: alsetalokin4017
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2017, 10:25:44 am
content: (OK good that you got it .. I just posted more instructions but they are not needed now.)

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2017, 10:43:50 am
content: Hey, glad you got it to work!It's still strange that entering the license key via the control panel did not work -- but I guess you are not in the mood now to experiment further and risk your options again.Enjoy your scope!

author: mikeev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2017, 12:55:52 pm
content: Hello,Yes it is very strange that panel's input is ignored (good or wrong key).But you're right, I prefer not changing anything, now that it works.I'll upgrade the firmware if I meet a problem (this is rigol's recommandation).thanks again.have a nice day or night..

author: forelle
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 10, 2017, 04:21:22 am
content: Hi all,I bought a Rigol DS1074Z some years ago and 3 days ago i thought i would like to make an uprade.First i put the latest Firmware on it.Then i reboot it and go to this sitehttp://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/I have deleted all characters write down my serial nummber and in Options DSER and press generate.I write down the code in the scope and i allways get as answer : invalid lisence.I dont understand what mikeev has done that it now works.I am really bad with Pc and english is not my first language.Maybe somebody could explain me.Thanks.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 10, 2017, 04:46:35 am
content: Quote from: forelle on July 10, 2017, 04:21:22 amI don't think you are experiencing the same problem which mikeev had. In Mike's case, it seems that he did not getanyreply when entering a license code (whether a correct or incorrect one) via the scope's control panel.If you are not so comfortable with computers, I would recommend that you retry entering the code via the control panel (rather than setting up an Ethernet or USB connection to send commands to the scope). Please review this post and try again:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/ds1054z-hack-still-good/msg1235820/#msg1235820Good luck!

author: forelle
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 10, 2017, 08:22:42 am
content: Thanks,i will your recomendations.

author: forelle
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 10, 2017, 06:57:10 pm
content: Hi ebastler,i have changed from Google Chrome to Mozilla Firefox and it works,yeah.Thanks for this simple tip.Have a nice day.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 10, 2017, 08:04:45 pm
content: Quote from: forelle on July 10, 2017, 06:57:10 pmGlad you could fix it! Have fun with your upgraded scope!

author: Zanatos
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 10:18:02 am
content: Hello,can someone confirm me that the last rigol DS1054Z's firmware is still hackable?Is the 00.04.04.03.02 the lastest one, right?I'm considering to buy this 'oscope.Thanks!

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 10:21:48 am
content: Quote from: Zanatos on July 13, 2017, 10:18:02 ama) It's not "hacking", it's just entering a license key, as designed.b) Rigolsellsthese keys to people. They can't ever stop old ones from working.

author: Zanatos
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 10:28:19 am
content: Quote from: Fungus on July 13, 2017, 10:21:48 amFirst of all thanks for your fast reply!!Sorry if my questions are, maybe, trivial but this will be my first oscilloscope and i'm not so expert.You are saying that, also with new firmwares, they can't prevent the ability to use old keys?Thanks again for your help!

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 11:45:31 am
content: Quote from: Zanatos on July 13, 2017, 10:28:19 amSure, I'm just trying to leave an answer in this thread that might stick.Quote from: Zanatos on July 13, 2017, 10:28:19 amCorrect.OK, it's not technically impossible,ifthey planned ahead, etc.But ... hackers would just make a new keygen and it's 10000% more likely that their plan since day one is to allow keygens. It's good for sales.

author: Desserts
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 10:00:02 pm
content: Hi folks - prepare for newbie questions... (sorry)Just got DS1054z and I'm trying to learn about the upgrade "hack" but don't want to mess it up - so ask first (not my usual style - but I'm learning - slowly...)Two questions -First, I see folks listing firmware numbers as 4 or 5 groups of 2-digit numbers. Mine just says "00.04.04.SP3". Is this right or am I looking at the wrong thing? If this is right (or at least usable), it also says I have board 0.1.4. Big question - does anyone know if the "hack" for choice DSER works with this firmware and board?Next, after I enter the generated key string (assuming it works), is there a way to "undo" the feature upgrades and return to the basic features the scope came with?Also. if I enter a key string for a particular set of features (i.e., DSER), can I try a different set of features (i.e., DSFR) by just entering a different key string? (Or do I first have to clear out everything and go back to the basic features it came with?)I know this is a mess, but thank you in advance for your patience in wading through it.

author: MarkF
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 10:31:33 pm
content: - The latest firmware version is 00.04.04.03.02 or 00.04.04.SP3.To see the full system info:- In the trigger area on the front panel, press MENU > MENU > FORCE > MENU <<< press this sequence quickly- In the menu area, press UTILITY > SYSTEM > SYSTEM INFO-DSERisalloptions. No need to try anything else.DO NOT USEtheDSFRoption!- To remove all options you must send the SCPI command:SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTallvia the USB or Network port.You can also add options by sending the SCPI command:SYSTem:OPTion:INSTall ‘license key’

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 10:35:52 pm
content: Quote from: Desserts on August 02, 2017, 10:00:02 pmYes.Quote from: Desserts on August 02, 2017, 10:00:02 pmYes.Quote from: Desserts on August 02, 2017, 10:00:02 pmDSER is the only one worth doing, DSFR is a bad idea, so...

author: MattSR
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 10:41:12 pm
content: Why is DSFR a bad thing?

author: MarkF
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 10:43:31 pm
content: Quote from: MattSR on August 02, 2017, 10:41:12 pmShort answer. The hardware and calibration function do NOT support that vertical scale.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 10:43:42 pm
content: Quote from: MattSR on August 02, 2017, 10:41:12 pmBecause the hardware doesn't support 500uV/div and you'll keep selecting it by accident every time you turn the knob in that direction.DSER doesn't enable it.

author: MattSR
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 11:38:37 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on August 02, 2017, 10:43:42 pmThat sounds like good enough reason!

author: Desserts
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 03, 2017, 01:41:55 am
content: Hi folks,Thanks for the replies and explanations. I appreciate the help.I'm from the analog era (think: 545's and CA plugins) and my embedded biases on how things "should" work tend to make the learning curve a circle. But I'll get there...As soon as I'm comfortable with it's way of doing things, I'll do the upgrades.Thanks again.Frank

author: mathsquid
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 03, 2017, 11:18:34 pm
content: When I look at thehttp://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/site, I don't see DSER as an option. Does entering it anyway work, or should I use a different site?Quote

author: MarkF
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 01:16:44 am
content: Quote from: mathsquid on August 03, 2017, 11:18:34 pmI echoed the bit assignments for each option in another thread,https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg752721/#msg752721,if you really want to know the details.Just use DSER for all options.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 09:35:49 am
content: Quote from: mathsquid on August 03, 2017, 11:18:34 pmMust resist urge to type something like: "We've created a global conspiracy and multiple threads on EEVBLOG telling people to use a bad code that makes their oscilloscope explode, and now you expect us to confess and change our story...?"

author: Tomer
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2018, 06:23:24 pm
content: Just about to purchase the scopeCan anyone help me and confirm that the hack is still working ?Thank youTom

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2018, 06:47:09 pm
content: Yes.Don't buy a "plus" model or an MSO though, those are much more difficult to "upgrade".

author: frozenfrogz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2018, 06:51:38 pm
content: It has been and for ever will be a "hackable" scope since the flaw is in the implementation of the encryption - if Rigol wanted to fix that in firmware, they would have to also supply everyone who bought additional features at any point in time with new keys and I do not think they are willing to go through all this trouble.Personally I would not want to be responsible for all the backlash this would cause.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2018, 08:53:03 pm
content: Quote from: Tomer on January 05, 2018, 06:23:24 pmYes.The day it stops working you'll feel a huge disturbance in the force.

author: ibendwires
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 01, 2018, 11:55:19 pm
content: (Adding another confirmation based on a recent purchase)Just received my scope todayand was able to apply the hack with no problems. However, I used the wrong option (DSFR) instead of the (DSER). So I had to go through the process of removing all of the features via the SPI commands and reapplying with the correct informationAnywho. Of note, my unit was up to date from the factory with the most recent firmware version 00.04.04 SP3 which meant I didn't have to upgrade at all. And from what I can tell thus far, this is an excellent scope for the price point. As I was currently using a Tektronix TDS1002B.FWIW, The threads in these forums sold me on the unit

author: Topher_duino
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 07, 2018, 03:11:05 am
content: I got my scope in today. Also with the 00.04.04 SP3 software.I almost cried when the first 3 attempts failedThen I realised that I err'd on one of the serial numbers when reading it off the screen. doh!After looking at the rear end of the scope, I was right as rain.Good luck all.

author: Bagpuss
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 23, 2018, 09:51:40 am
content: Just received my DS1054Z (with 00.04.04 SP3 software), but have a slightly different situation to most.Mine already came from the supplier with all options enabled (except 100MHz).This raises a some questions:1) What would happen if I ran :SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTall?Would this remove all of the options, regardless of the fact they were pre-installed at purchase?2) How do I put them back? The company I purchased from didn't provide any serial key.3) Given that I've got the options already, is there a different code I should use to enable just the 100MHz feature?I was thinking that using DSER would be correct, but just wanted to be sure.Any help would be much appreciated.Thanks,Andy.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 23, 2018, 10:30:09 am
content: Quote from: Bagpuss on April 23, 2018, 09:51:40 amYes.Quote from: Bagpuss on April 23, 2018, 09:51:40 amMake your own keys with Riglol:http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/Quote from: Bagpuss on April 23, 2018, 09:51:40 amDSER will enable everything no matter what's already enabled.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 23, 2018, 10:30:52 am
content: Quote from: Bagpuss on April 23, 2018, 09:51:40 amI assume the options would indeed be removed. Pre-installation at purchase uses the same mechanism as a post-purchase addition, to my knowledge, and hence removal of options should also work the same.QuoteEither ask the seller to provide you with the key, or use RIGLOL to generate your own (presumably identical) key. Or just don't uninstall the options; no need to do that.QuoteI would leave the pre-installed options in place, and use DSEA to just add the 100 MHz bandwidth.EDIT: Fungus beat me to it.No real difference between our two posts. Either DSER or DSEA should work to enable 100 MHz on top of your pre-installed options.

author: Bagpuss
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 23, 2018, 12:08:49 pm
content: Thanks. Just used DSER to enable 100Mhz.

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2018, 03:51:28 pm
content: Bagpus, If I might ask, why did your scope come with all of the options pre-installed? I am assuming, always a dangerous thing, that the upgrade promotion was only based around furnishing the keys (usually from the dealer by email). Did your dealer install them for you? If so then you surely want the legit factory supplied keys for possible future use. I am wondering if Rigol has started enabling the options from the factory since everyone has them anyway, which I doubt. Thanks.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2018, 04:43:04 pm
content: For any legit and genuine Rigol certificate, you will be sent this, and use the key (the highlighted in red) to generate the real key at their web site to get the final key to be entered in the scope.Example below here ...

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2018, 05:17:42 pm
content: Quote from: Old Printer on April 24, 2018, 03:51:28 pmI wondered about that, too.If you get the special deal you should receive an unopened box with the the 'scope inside and a separate certificate/coupon for your options. The dealer wouldn't pre-install the options for you because it's a lot of work for them, they'd have to unseal all the boxes, unpack the 'scopes and mess around with them entering keys.So... what's the story? Did you receive your DS1054Z in a sealed box-within-box?(Rigol puts two boxes on all their 'scopes)

author: TheNewLab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2018, 07:09:25 pm
content: My feeling is that Rigol is encouraging it, becausei nformation on how to do it is all over the Internet. It has been so for years. Rigol could have easily modified their software, at least to make it more difficult.Why not encourage it? Just think of the overwhelming number of sales they are generating. They are making much more selling a large volume of units vs. trying to get people to pay the $100 or $200 for the extras.I would be really curious about how many units they sell an average year.About dealers,(or sellers) doing the hack themselves. Except for the major distributors, it is a good way to get you to come back for future purchases. Once you get the rhythm, just get some person at minimum wage cracking away. If in China, labor is much less

author: volbeast
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 05, 2018, 09:53:54 pm
content: I just upgraded my brand new DS1054Z today, the hack still works!

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2018, 10:19:26 pm
content: Quote from: TheNewLab on June 03, 2018, 07:09:25 pmA couple of years ago I watched the inventory levels at Tequipment. It appeared to me that they were selling about 1000 per week. And that's just one supplier.The new Siglents give them a run for the money but for awhile Rigol absolutely dominated the entry level scope market. I really like my DS1054Z but I still want to buy the Siglent SDS1204X-E. I'm kind of hanging back waiting on the firmware to get firm. No hurry...

author: TheNewLab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2018, 06:17:29 am
content: Same here. the hacks on the Siglent so far are too technical to me. I would liek to learn to access code from a JTAG connector.REgarding the Rigol. I just bought one. even with all the upgrades "official" I added the 100MHz upgrade with the suggusted code preference per these forum posts. worked fine. and did not lse the already installed upgrades.Seller did not say anything about any included upgrades at all. just a base unit at a little over $200. hum.. maybe more. The box was still original manufacturer sealed. I think Rigol is just going ahead and including all upgrades except the 100MHz on these units now.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2018, 06:36:18 am
content: Quote from: TheNewLab on July 06, 2018, 06:17:29 amAs mentioned in the other thread: no guesswork required, Rigol does indeed include all options for free. Presumably "for a limited time only", but the offer has been standing for months now. See here for example, under "free software bundle":https://www.tequipment.net/Rigol/DS1054Z/Digital-Oscilloscopes/The price you mention seems too good to be true, however, options or not. Where did you get the DS1054Z for "a little over $200"?

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2018, 06:43:08 am
content: Dunno why have the feeling that DS-1054Z's successor is about to surface ?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2018, 07:45:39 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on July 06, 2018, 06:43:08 amAnd then all the new Siglent owners will cry out in pain!

author: OE2WHP
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2018, 09:28:04 am
content: Quote from: ebastler on July 06, 2018, 06:36:18 amMost probably it "fell" from a truck....

author: TheNewLab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2018, 02:29:50 am
content: Ha! OE2WHP!! maybe you're right it was an Amazon delivery truck!! Tequipment was the source through Amazon. Amazon gave me a partial refund so and a quoted by net price - oopsIt said nothing about any bundle, though. I had no idea until I went to another distributor who advertised a bundle but for around $500. I bought the thing..just so I could try out the hack. and had fun doing it, anxiety and all!Fungus, not sure if Siglent owners will cry out in pain. their model has more standard features and a larger working screen. Now if they also drop their prices... or, drop the license and hardware add-on for the MSO..then we all will be crying out in pain.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2018, 02:40:19 am
content: Quote from: TheNewLab on July 19, 2018, 02:29:50 amWe can unlock them for free.Quote from: TheNewLab on July 19, 2018, 02:29:50 amWe're speaking about the secret, unreleased Rigol model, right?They must be due for a new one by now and we know they've been developing their own chipset for a while.

author: shorelineproductions
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 09, 2019, 11:55:43 am
content: I wasn't aware of the DSER option at the time I hacked my DS1054Z. Currently I have the 500uV vertical option enabled. Is there a method to disable this option?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2019, 12:46:08 pm
content: Quote from: shorelineproductions on March 09, 2019, 11:55:43 ama) telnet on port 5555b) Type ":SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTall"c) :SYSTem:OPTion:INSTall XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXWhere XXXXXXXXXXXXX is your DSER KEY

author: shorelineproductions
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 09, 2019, 12:54:08 pm
content: Thanks so much for the information, Fungus!

author: reflowman
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2019, 09:01:01 am
content: FWIW:26April19: Bought a DS1054Z (from Telonics - UK distributor for Rigol, £357.60 inc. tax+delivery).s/w is: 00.04.04.SP4board is: 0.1.4All options included except 100MHz.Downloaded and compiledhttp://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/riglol.zip.Generated key for 100MHz code: DSEAWorked fine.

author: wasyoungonce
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 03, 2019, 12:37:03 am
content: Mine from Emona Australia came all options enabled by distributor.~ Feb 19s/w is: 00.04.04.SP4board is: 0.1.4

author: AlgisLt
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 12, 2019, 07:09:55 pm
content: Just to report and confirm that for DS1054z, software 04.04.SP3, board 0.1.4, DSER options still can be successfully enabled