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author: mikerj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2020, 05:23:36 pm
content: You're using Firefox 82? Guess they didn't bother testing it on Linux.

author: Karel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2020, 06:25:14 pm
content: Quote from: mikerj on November 16, 2020, 05:23:36 pmYes:

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2020, 06:27:39 pm
content: Quote from: mikerj on November 16, 2020, 05:23:36 pmThey would have had to reach out to both people still using Firefox

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2020, 07:02:29 pm
content: what do you expect from a free browser? maybe they put their effort on where the money came from the most...btw Linux Device Driver is an interesting subject, why device manufacturers havent catch up since few decades ago? maybe due to ecosystem? like most photographers they rely heavily on Photoshop et al for photo editing and production at professional level. and those are Windows only. so they need a printer that can work in Windows. since very minor users are on Linux maybe its not worth the effort to develop and maintain for dual OS compatible driver.i remember the idea of free Linux was like the ideal Utopia, but to this date, Linux are only on the desk of "techies" (or maybe possessed gamers) which is far minority compared to normal mortals, muggles and joes out there thats using Winglows. my 2cnts. (not provoking another Win vs Linux warits just purely my 2cntsand i am talking about PC, ie production/education purpose tools, not social tools such as smart phones)

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2020, 07:10:04 pm
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on November 16, 2020, 06:52:10 pmAnd Chrome for Windows (or any browser, for that matter) is paid? Not sure what kind of argument are you trying to make here.Quote from: Mechatrommer on November 16, 2020, 06:52:10 pmNonsense. This has most likely zero to do with neither Linux nor Firefox. Both Firefox and Linux have no issues with sound, heck even Google's Widevine DRM (e.g. used by Netflix and many others) works in Linux and Firefox.These kinds of browser compatibility issues are in 99% of cases caused by lazy web developers that either don't bother to test on anything except Chrome and then leave in Chrome/Windows-specific stuff that breaks elsewhere. Or even outright hardwire a user agent check in the website and refuse to even attempt to work unless the browser identifies as Chrome. Often simply bypassing the check using a debugger makes the webpage work fine, surprise ... This doesn't screw over only Linux/Firefox users but also Mac users with Safari, mobile browsers, screen readers for the blind, etc.It is the good old Microsoft Internet Explorer being mandatory for many sites for no other reason than the web developers not bothering to develop for an actual W3C standard but only for MSIE all over again. And with the same stupid arguments about marketshare, snarky comments about minority operating systems "that nobody uses" and so on.E.g. we have a large supermarket chain here where they have put some buggy advertising/tracking code into their online order website causing my Firefox tab to literally spin up the CPU in cycles and hang. No such problem if I open the offending page in Chrome. Newspaper website I go often to is broken in Firefox because some dumbass didn't bother with standard CSS styles but they have hardwired some Chrome-specific code. And many other examples ...

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2020, 09:49:22 pm
content: havent i mentioned gamers need sound?