Harvard lighting scheamtics open to the world - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: ocset
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 04:26:20 pm
content: HiHarvard lighting, the UKs biggest lighting company, recently collapsed owing millions to the uk governemnt.Product failure was the main reason.Should now the entire schematics be published so that the world can benefit from this?After all, it helps no-one if lighting products are failing in their thousands, as the production energy is harmful to our environment

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 05:30:53 pm
content: Actually that would not be a bad idea... if a company goes under, all their patents should be open sourced. It only makes sense, if they are the only ones legally allowed to make said product and are no longer in business, it's stupid to tie up a technology. Of course it probably does not work that way, IP laws tend to be pretty strict and don't have any exceptions.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 05:36:21 pm
content: Quote from: Red Squirrel on June 16, 2019, 05:30:53 pmIf a company goes under, that company's patents are one of the assets the liquidator has to sell to help pay out to the creditors.

author: Dundarave
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 05:57:46 pm
content: Now if they’d have just imported a bunch of Chinese engineers to create their lighting products...

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 06:12:34 pm
content: Reading between the lines Treez, I'm reading open toyou.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 06:24:35 pm
content: Harvard isbankrupt? Wow theywere a big competitor 10 years ago.Big prsence on the light and building fair and quite decent products.Back in those days HID lighting was a huge source of income for the major players.€30 million to make a new hid lamp (factory line) no small chinese fish to be seen anywhere.LED is going to be the end of the big lighting companies, said it five years ago still saying it, there is little competitive advantage.

author: GromBeestje
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 07:24:23 pm
content: Quote from: Red Squirrel on June 16, 2019, 05:30:53 pmWhen you own a patent, you still got to defend it. You've got to sue whoever infringes your patent, and a company that doesn't exist anymore isn't going to sue anyone. I suppose, a patent without owner can be considered void. However, I doubt those patents remain without owner for long, they're going to be sold.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 07:30:29 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on June 16, 2019, 06:24:35 pmOsram seem to be doing very well. Like any disruptive technology, LEDs will only destroy companies who fail to invest and adapt to it early enough.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 07:33:35 pm
content: Quote from: Zero999 on June 16, 2019, 07:30:29 pmIt was in the showroom a couple of years ago to be sold, probably still is but silent since they lostface because no one was interested, so I would check the books againIt is a shadow of what it was two decades ago.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2019, 07:46:07 pm
content: To elaborate a bit, Osram as well as Signify (prev Philips) are focussing on beyond lighting, so the basic lights is the past the future is big data, gathering data from the luminaires. Store it in the cloud and use it. But why would a customer want this, privacy security are in jeopardy and what is the gain?Perhaps it will work out over time but it is a big deviation from lighting products as we used to see.GE and Zumtobel are probably leaving the scene as well, and the cause is that Average Joe buys a ledlamp for $2 and is not interested in quality and the A brand manufacturers have to follow this price degradation and also sell crap because their quality product at a higher price is not sold.