STLINK V2 and V3 debuggers are on a 1 year lead time - Page 1
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author: peter-h
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2022, 07:31:39 pm
content: This is crazy. They don't even contain an ST CPU.And a few months ago they were plentiful.

author: capt bullshot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2022, 07:39:44 pm
content: Quote from: peter-h on June 20, 2022, 07:31:39 pmThey do contain an STM32Fxxx MCU (STM32F103 for the V2, some higher end H7 afair for the V3)A cheap source for them are the nucleo32 boards, these provide you with a detachable ST-Link V2.1 and cost even less than a genuine ST-Link V2

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2022, 08:00:42 pm
content: Yes - just know that the ST-Link on Nucleo board do not have level shifters, so you are stuck with 3.3V (AFAIR.) But if your designs are on 3.3V only, they are plenty fine.

author: peter-h
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2022, 08:01:06 pm
content: Unbelievable. So people are buying up these things, at 20 quid in 100+, and unsoldering the CPUs.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2022, 08:03:55 pm
content: Things are getting pretty much as in wartime.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2022, 09:13:04 pm
content: Quote from: peter-h on June 20, 2022, 08:01:06 pmFirst they buy the nucleo boards which have two STM32 cpus onboardBut yes it is pretty awfull, like if you are hungry you will eat anything.Some companies can not build the products they sell to keep in business due to parts shortage, what did you expect, they will stay dorment for two years till the storm is over ?I am actually surprised there were no armed robberies of component transports.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2022, 11:52:27 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on June 20, 2022, 09:13:04 pmJust wait, it's cumming, the highway robbery of a mini van filled with rolls of 0402 resistors! The only time in planets history a resistor robbery was actually profitable......but by a very tiny margin!

author: Sal Ammoniac
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2022, 01:36:41 am
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on June 20, 2022, 08:03:55 pmMaybe companies should start issuing ration books and stamps like in WWII.Instead of points for meat and fish there could be points for STM32 MCUs and ST-LINKS.

author: Geoff-AU
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2022, 02:57:07 am
content: Quote from: Sal Ammoniac on June 24, 2022, 01:36:41 amBe careful what you wish for! (or joke about)Many distributors are lying about (under-reporting) their stock levels, in an effort to limit hoarding perhaps, but when I need 10-20 of an item and they are showing me a low number it encourages me to snap them up now rather than wait. I guess I need them anyway and I'm not a large company trying to make 10,000 of something so dribbling them out still makes sense.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2022, 03:11:31 am
content: "Light" forms of rationing have already happened occasionally here and there for food these past months, and as Geoff said, it probably happens for some others goods as well in indirect ways. So far.So yeah, while a good laugh never hurts, careful what you wish for indeed. =) We possibly ain't seen nothing yet.

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2022, 03:30:58 am
content: Same for some J-links last I looked.

author: peter-h
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2022, 07:15:53 am
content: A year or so ago I wanted ~20 32F417 samples for development. A UK disti said they can supply 20 if I order 500. They quoted about 6 months for the 500. I placed the order (the price was good, about £5) and the 6m LT turned out to be totally fictitious. I didn't actually need them because I already had 100 from before and the first batch of this new product would be only 100. But we did chase them a numer of times...Then suddenly they turned up. This tells me that this bubble is about to explode, but as always the distis are keeping it quiet for as long as possible whole booking orders at silly prices.

author: Sal Ammoniac
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2022, 03:06:16 pm
content: There are multiple sellers on Amazon.com selling ST-LINK/v2. The going rate seems to be around $60 (about 3x the pre-pandemic price).

author: peter-h
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2022, 07:58:40 pm
content: Anything on Amazon or Ebay which can be counterfeitediscounterfeited, these might be the same

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 25, 2022, 09:39:15 am
content: Quote from: peter-h on June 24, 2022, 07:58:40 pmis it?https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/509509/how-to-verify-st-link-v2-original-or-fakei have the knock off small usb drive like, of course some IDE rejected it, but the latest i got is just like in the attached link. any proof that it is fake? no time yet to test, but its just $15, not really hurting if its fake. i believe at least it can program something, if not better than the knock off thumb-drive version.

author: voltsandjolts
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 25, 2022, 10:35:08 am
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on June 25, 2022, 09:39:15 amI was looking at those, what is wrong with them?

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 25, 2022, 11:05:19 am
content: Quote from: voltsandjolts on June 25, 2022, 10:35:08 ammaybe i've mistaken it with my knockoff Segger Jlink when i typed some IDE rejected it. but one thing for sure what is wrong with it is it doesnt look like official stlink v2now i have both of them, including the fake Segger Jlink... i havent play enough time with arm mcu due to time constraint.

author: capt bullshot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 25, 2022, 11:31:25 am
content: Quote from: voltsandjolts on June 25, 2022, 10:35:08 amIt's not the original, and legally it can't have the original ST-Link firmware inside.Anyway, afaik the protection scheme is broken so I'd expect them to work. But they are cheap (and maybe not totally legal) knockoffs of the real ST-Link. IMO the original ST-Link is way cheap enough so I wouldn't buy knockoffs.

author: peter-h
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2022, 09:30:45 am
content: I could never understand the market for fake STLINKs, when the real ones are dirt cheap. Maybe if you have just $10, somebody gave you the board for nothing, and you just want to flash an LED...

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2022, 09:38:01 am
content: Me neither, they are so cheap they were thrown in the garbage at my previous company.Some idiot also threw in an Ulink2 ($300) nice find that was

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2022, 01:05:20 pm
content: Quote from: Sal Ammoniac on June 24, 2022, 01:36:41 amIf it gets worse for some reason, I honestly think government should create a shortlist of parts with major shortages and do this. Currently there's rationing for the really big customers who order direct from factory and the rest of the economy fights for scraps.Alternatively leave it to the free market, but really. Distributors become clearing houses and ST sells futures at auction. Everyone can fight for scraps then.

author: peter-h
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2022, 09:24:35 am
content: This is really funny...Mouser now have 1500 of STLINK V3 in stock (looks like the shortage bubble is about to explode) but they are still imposing a buy limit of 1 per monthSo I bought a few from Digikey, same price, have stock, no limit. I had a couple which were probably blown up.

author: AVI-crak
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2022, 04:47:49 pm
content: At ST, things are very, very bad.https://stcareers.talent-soft.com/homepage.aspxThere are many job openings with a very high technical threshold.It seems to me that there is simply no one to work there. The whole company, every employee, every day, strictly according to the schedule, goes out to fight for their rights.The alternative is ducks.

author: boB
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2022, 05:48:45 pm
content: Quote from: AVI-crak on September 05, 2022, 04:47:49 pmMy company see similar issues trying to find technical people. Not from employees protesting but there just doesn't seem to be many technical people out there here in the US.We found real ST-Link 3 Minnies on Mouser or somewhere but were limited to two (2) per customer at a time.

author: peter-h
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2022, 07:30:48 pm
content: QuoteMust be an exciting job. And indeed it is:QuoteWhat a load of corporate BS. No real person will meet these requirements.

author: capt bullshot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2022, 07:46:08 pm
content: Quote from: peter-h on September 05, 2022, 07:30:48 pmThere's a lot of persons that will meet these requirements. Here (tm) we call them "PowerPoint-Artist", "Excel-Blender", "Heissluftgenerator", "Dummschwätzer", "Arschkriecher", "Radfahrer", "Bullshit Bingo Master", ...These are people that don't know anything, still excel at the bosses by showing off Slides with embedded Excel sheets (everyone who can fill an excel sheet with some numbers and embed this in PP slides really shines in the eyes of top level executives, totally independent of the quality of the shown data). One can imagine, these people can (and do) break a lot and still be eminently respectable at the bosses. I really hate these jobs and what people are doing that are filling these jobs.If you like to show off, talk and have no idea of what your company is doing, this is the right job for youIt's not limited to this particular job descriptions, there's a lot of these excel artists and power point jugglers in many types of positions.