New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: klaus11
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timestamp: February 22, 2018, 09:25:19 am
content: I found this multimeter at Farnell, On request. Any opinion or information about it.

author: trevwhite
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timestamp: February 22, 2018, 12:17:19 pm
content: Yeah I saw that but very little information available about it or when it is available.

author: klaus11
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2018, 12:38:33 pm
content: Yes, but strange information; weight 5.5 Kg and declare an access button to facilitate navigation, which does not appear in the image.

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2018, 03:28:12 pm
content: C'mon, where is DMM8520 already ?I'm hodling on 2002's though.

author: JanJansen
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2018, 03:40:56 pm
content: In Farnell Russian site its under 1000€.

author: klaus11
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2018, 04:33:25 pm
content: Preliminary specifications Farnell is like a rehash of Tek DMM4050 and FLuke 8846.The minimum range 10µA is at a disadvantage with 1µA of Keysight 34465A.

author: klaus11
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2018, 04:41:22 pm
content: Quote from: TiN on February 22, 2018, 03:28:12 pmYou will lose less years eliminating the noise of the DMM7510, the 8.5 Digits?

author: MadTux
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2018, 05:07:49 pm
content: Quote from: TiN on February 22, 2018, 03:28:12 pmThe VFD of older Keithley instruments looks much better than the modern LCD stuff. Also much more easy to repair and more robust. I'll stick with older LED/VFD Keithleys, too. The internal FPGA/softcore madness of the Fluke 8846 is ugly, don't really need that in my lab, the graphical VFD is kinda nice though.

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2018, 05:11:01 pm
content: 8.5d metrology meters aren't supposed to be looked at. Sadly NFP versions of meters are usually priced MORE than regular ones.

author: FransW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2018, 01:30:55 pm
content: Gents, see:https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/digital-multimeters/8493832/Frans

author: klaus11
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2018, 01:33:06 pm
content: Keithley DMM7510

author: klaus11
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timestamp: March 05, 2018, 09:30:37 am
content: And now DAQ6510 appears on a website from Finland.DAQ6510 is an acquisition multimeter systemDate Web:http://tekfinland.fi/tuotteet/uusimmat-tuoteuutuudet/keithley-daq6510-dmm-kytkinyksikko.html

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 03:08:58 pm
content: Quote from: klaus11 on March 05, 2018, 09:30:37 amInteresting that it is only listed in Finland.I can not find any other specs anywhere.

author: klaus11
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 05:59:01 am
content: Yes, I have downloaded catalog 2018 TEK / KEI, and there is nothing new in Keithley.Two ghosts Keithley.

author: klaus11
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timestamp: March 12, 2018, 03:59:10 pm
content: DMM6500. Datasheet :http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2585589.pdf

author: htassell
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timestamp: March 16, 2018, 10:42:04 am
content: I wound up ordering one of these for work the other day - anticipated shipping date: 25/6/2018....

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 16, 2018, 11:50:42 am
content: Quote from: htassell on March 16, 2018, 10:42:04 amHow did you find an ordering link?And how much was it?It looks like a really promising 6 1/2 digit meter.I was thinking of getting a second DMM7500, may be I will get one of these DMM6500 first.

author: htassell
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 12:36:08 am
content: I ordered it from Element14 Australia. It was AUD$1,475 I thinkFor the price, it had the right feature set I need including multiplexing.http://au.element14.com/keithley/dmm6500/digital-multimeter-bench-6-5-digit/dp/2840447

author: drummerdimitri
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 01:40:44 am
content: I'm in the market for a new bench DMM and the DMM6500 looks like my next purchase.Where can I find it online to ship to my country?

author: klaus11
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 05:56:21 am
content: We will have to wait for the real Datasheet, the document contributed by Farnell is only "Application Notes". It does not say anything about ACAL either.

author: quarks
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2018, 10:49:40 am
content: looks interesting

author: TAMHAN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2018, 03:53:52 pm
content: I've had it in my hand yesterday, didnt particularly like the screen resolution and felt the screen "sponged away" when touched.Also shot a little video which I will add here soonish...

author: Krampmeier
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2018, 08:23:52 pm
content: I have been using an engineering sample of the 6500 for a couple of weeks now, and I really do like it. I also noticed that the screen "sponges away" a little bit, but other than that, the look&feel is very nice. The screen resolution is a little bit higher than it is on the 7510, as the screen is a bit higher. It is also much clearer, and the touch interface works very well.After playing with this new meter for a couple of hours, going back to a 2000 series device feels weird. We are all used to the VFDs, but the LCD really does have a lot of advantages. The data logging alone, with the intuitive scrolling and zooming and a huge memory, would be enough to justify the upgrade in many cases. Another neat feature is that you can upload scripts to the meter which also change the UI and add special functionality. That seems to be very powerful. It also has a very good virtual frontpanel via LAN, which is quite useful for remote debugging.I noticed that the 6500 also shows very low noise, and the (preliminary) specs look very good (better than all the Keysight 6.5 digit meters). As far as I understand it, It does not need ACAL to get full accuracy, and does not have it.I don't think I should share the photos of the inside or the pricing information for Europe yet, but in my opinion, it will be a no-brainer when you have to decide between the 6.5 digit universal multimeters currently on the market.There are still some minor firmware issues which Keithley is working on at the moment. The design team has been very responsive to feedback and suggestions during the last weeks, so I suppose they'll iron those problems out before the meter hits the market in Europe. The only thing that I still worry about is that the time required for measurement function changes is much longer than it was for the 2000 and 2010. No big deal for bench use though.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2018, 08:27:50 pm
content: Quote from: klaus11 on March 12, 2018, 03:59:10 pmGood to see ethernet standard, even if they got it backwards

author: Krampmeier
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2018, 08:29:33 pm
content: QuoteI am not sure what you mean with that... Are you saying the 7510 is particularly noisy? This is true in the 100 mV - 10 V ranges when it is set to 10 MOhm input impedance. When you set it to "Auto" impedance (10 GOhm), it has rather low noise.Keithley knows about this problem, and they will likely fix it with a new firmware (which will change the signal path switching in the meter).The 6500 does not suffer from that problem.