$500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: graybeard
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2023, 01:44:23 am
content: How many idiots will buy this$500 Audiophile SATA SSD Cable?Audiofoolery is almost as big a scam as religion.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2023, 03:00:18 am
content: If they made every cable like that there may not be enough space in the case.I have a few transparent sata cables that looks just like that on the ends.That must be easy to make and assemble.Just pick any sata cable and push it through that piece of cloth like thing.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2023, 03:12:11 am
content: More audiofool junk.Except most of it is made to at least look expensive (even though there is no evidence it does squat).This thing ... it looks like a piece of crap, so it fits the part associated with the toilet water line. Wow, I keep thinking why don't I get in on the gravy train if it's this easy.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2023, 04:14:22 am
content: https://www.ebay.com/usr/audiophile.rocksTaken from: AlienFxIncGraphix, Artistic Restoration and Gallery - Facebook (took cropped modified stock photo for ebay logo)https://www.facebook.com/AlienFxIncGraphix/Quotehttps://www.ebay.com/itm/295484459418QuoteLooks to me like it had some use and abuse.QuoteWhat a scammer... just buy some ordinary cables and put some stuff around it and some fancy plugs.*I am sure I can create the same effect on someone by blasting their ears with loud noises where they become deaf.Just found this:https://web.archive.org/web/20201023095309/https://www.ebay.com/usr/audiophile.rockshttps://www.facebook.com/audiophilerocksDifferent product name but same thing.QuoteIsn't that naughty?

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2023, 04:56:36 am
content: https://gigglehd-com.translate.goog/gg/hard/13798377?_x_tr_sl=ko&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=scQuote

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2023, 06:43:18 am
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on February 22, 2023, 03:00:18 amare those marshmallows with sprinkles?

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2023, 06:46:00 am
content: The crap that people buy into

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2023, 09:25:33 pm
content: Quote from: JPortici on February 23, 2023, 06:43:18 amYes. Theyburned them induring roasting on a story telling camp fire trip that they are selling with the auction.Apparently the seller suggests that despite the above it needs to be burned in again on another story telling camp fire trip after you buy them in order to sell to the next audiofool.https://www.ebay.com/itm/295484459432Quote

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2023, 09:55:42 pm
content: The article states: "Without a review sample, we can’t completely dismiss all of the product listing claims regarding this cable’s Hi-Fi qualities."Is the author trying to be funny or did he seriously mean that he couldn't honestly call the product complete and utter bullshit without seeing it first?

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2023, 10:12:37 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on February 23, 2023, 09:55:42 pmQuoteI thought that was some sort of cloth like plastic braid but when looking again at the article what I thought what sounded like a joke and now on looking up closely I see it is a flexible metal toilet hose connector.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2023, 11:08:30 pm
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on February 23, 2023, 10:12:37 pmYou know why you sound better singing in the shower? No its nothing to do with room acoustics, its actually due to the woven hose connector on your toilet.Hence the brilliant idea to use it here.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2023, 11:24:24 pm
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on February 23, 2023, 10:12:37 pmIt's way too big to be a toilet line, it looks like the 3/4" braided flex hoses I have connecting my water heater.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2023, 11:48:57 pm
content: I last saw those hoses selling £15 pound a piece.https://www.ebay.com/itm/295484455672QuoteI wonder did he paint those rocks?*Yes he did and varnished them too.If they are rare and precious why does he feel the need to paint over the rare and precious appearance?**So he is making this rare, precious stuff that will soon be gone and no longer available on planet earth until he materializes more from his clay making, painting and varnishing with maybe few crystal flakes or holes in them.Check out his video on them or the transcript:40 tweaks + Deepsbays Rock Galaxy, result after adding another tweak106 views 11 months ago Audiophile.Rocks86 subscribers Up: 2 Down: 0Youtube transcript:Quote

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2023, 10:03:14 am
content: I could imagine a kindergarden increasing their budget by having the kids creating "audiophoolish" stuff from whatever is found in the creative projects drawers and boxes - add some glue and glitter - done.That could add up to a nice million or two extra cash, certainly enough for some nice summer camp on some remote tropical island

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 03:17:09 am
content: Not so sure how I feel with having metal just flapping around in the breeze inside my PC case either. Seems like a good way to short things out.Quote from: Haenk on February 24, 2023, 10:03:14 am

author: NF6X
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 04:02:03 am
content: Do people actually buy this junk? Can a dishonest sociopath actually make a living selling sprinkles and globs of crud to gullible fools?

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 04:11:53 am
content: Quote from: NF6X on February 26, 2023, 04:02:03 amYes and yes.

author: NF6X
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 04:16:18 am
content: Sometimes I wish I was a terrible person. Thankfully, I don't give in to the temptation.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 04:50:20 am
content: It's interesting to see how some stores in Australia seem to skirt around Australian Consumer Law by not making any definitive claims about performance or specifications. If they claimed to make your audio sound better, they'd be in trouble.Take this for example:https://australiahifi.com.au/collections/power-cables/products/nordost-tyr-2-power-cableIt's just a bunch of word salad without actually meaning anything. They can't really be done for deceptive conduct because they aren't making any promises or claims about the product's performance.If you want to buy a cable that is "mechanically tuned" (i.e.: cut to length with wire cutters), then feel free to pay the $5.5k per metre for this bullshit.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 07:24:11 am
content: QuoteBuzzword bullshit:the realm, proprietary, Dual Mono-Filament technology, technology, strand interaction, hot spots, carbonization, optimum performance, material consistency, FEP, extruded FEP insulation, Dual Mono-Filament construction, mechanically tuned lengths, Supreme Reference ranges, reduces internal microphony, high-frequency impedance resonance, explosive dynamics, color, texture, intimacy, musically coherent, involving performanceBullshit opinions/phantom claims:benefits from the extensive research, a step above its Norse brothers and bounds ahead of the competition, guarantees that power is transferred more effectively, allows complete material consistency, benefits can be heard at both ends of the scale, sheer impact, real instrumental presence, brings a voice or solo instrument to life, performance you’ll ever have heard from your system and recordings.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 12:05:37 pm
content: Right - the power cord bullshit. From the wall socket to the amp or tuner or whatever - a few feet will do the majik. Except ... Hmmm ... how may feet of plain old simple AC wiring is in the walls and the buillding and outside coming to your wall socket. But yet that majik last few feet where you use that cable will make any difference.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 01:33:52 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on February 26, 2023, 12:05:37 pmSounds like a missed business opportunity.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 05:22:20 pm
content: Quote from: madires on February 26, 2023, 01:33:52 pmSpeaking of the audiofool business, I wondered if ChatGPT could help in the descriptions. So I tried it ...Me: I would like two paragraphs that describe a power cord product for audiophiles. That is, people who spend a lot of money on stereo system products. I will give you the phrases to use in the description. You can use any descriptive language to embellish this product. Do you understand so far?ChatGPT: Yes, I understand. Please provide the phrases you would like me to use in the description of the power cord product for audiophiles.Me: Some of the phrases I want you to use are: sonic beads, tuned lead spacing, deepened sound stage, vacuum sealed jacket, crystal field focusing, Chilean mined copper.ChatGPT: Introducing the ultimate power cord product designed for audiophiles who demand nothing but the best in sound quality. Our power cord boasts a series of innovative features that are guaranteed to elevate your listening experience to new heights. With its superior construction and advanced technology, this power cord is a must-have for anyone who takes their audio seriously.Crafted from the finest Chilean mined copper, this power cord delivers unmatched conductivity and reliability. The sonic beads within the cord work to minimize interference and eliminate noise, resulting in a clear and pristine sound. Additionally, the vacuum-sealed jacket ensures optimal insulation and protection, while the crystal field focusing technology helps to maintain a steady flow of power. The tuned lead spacing and deepened sound stage provide a dynamic range that is simply unparalleled. With this power cord, you'll hear every note and every detail in your music like never before.Me: Perfect!ChatGPT: I'm glad to hear that! If you have any other questions or requests, feel free to let me know.Oh that was too easy.I gotta try even more meaningless phrases next.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 05:30:00 pm
content: Quote from: madires on February 26, 2023, 01:33:52 pmLooks like there is no missed business opportunities for these audifool companies when they are backed by fools buying their products, lawyers controlling media such as their magazines and even reviews.Just found this: about Nordost caught red handed and uses the lawyers to suppress/silence a review:Quote from: FrankD on May 01, 2016, 05:22:40 pmQuoteI wonder how they are still in business today.They must be convincing for the audiofools.`Enough audiofools and backers and can afford top lawyers.So they are caught meddling and lying and have lawyers to enforce it.Absolutely disgusting:https://web.archive.org/web/20160427232128/http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=5659QuoteIt looks like Nordost wanted it to remain a mystery... maybe it is their business model.But trying to control opinions and silence reviews because they can through lawyers if they happened to be the same country goes to how much power they have to do what they like as well as fool people.Some contrast to the reviews on their website:https://www.nordost.com/reviews.phpIt reminds of a video posted on some thread a few years ago about Audioholics getting banned from some yearly event because things were said that one of their audiofoolic sponsors didn't like.As I was looking for that video just found this:https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/got-banned.68964/QuoteAs in Dave Jones No wonder why there is a flourishing industry of audiofoolery likeEEVblog #29 - Audiophile Audiophoolery 7 Sept 2009youtube.com/watch?v=m7ERMu825m4QuoteThrough the magazines, controlled reviews and forum speak.If they come after this forum I hope Dave gives them the middle finger and archive.org takes no notice.Is Audiophile Snobbery and Snake Oil Ruining Our Industry? 6 Jan 2020[Audioholics 183K subscribers Up: 2.7K Down: 60I thought this was outrageous until the silencing above on that review:Youtube transcript:QuoteMaybe these audiofoolery companies need alcohol poured over them to clean them out.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 07:40:32 pm
content: This cable looks pretty inflexible.

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 10:03:42 pm
content: I'm looking for a way to be able to unplug a SATA drive via a in-line switch instead of wrenching it out of the socket on the drive and back in again or worse powering the drive off and back on.Or even better a command to essentially do the same thing. (Reset the system's drive partition info after a full format.)

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2023, 10:35:23 pm
content: Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on February 26, 2023, 10:03:42 pmman partprobeCode:PARTPROBE(8) GNU Parted Manual PARTPROBE(8)NAMEpartprobe - inform the OS of partition table changes

author: cilione
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 04:58:29 am
content: QuoteThis guy has to troll. I asked the seller if he forgot to take his meds.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 08:40:08 am
content: "This SECRET formula"None of your business nevermind how it works.So to sum it up: These crystals have "this secret formula" that will improve your life and make the audio sound twice better.The more crystals you buy the more it will multiply the above.

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 11:26:00 am
content: Quote from: xrunner on February 26, 2023, 12:05:37 pmWasn't there this crazy japanese Audiophool who got his own powerline installed to his house?...gooooooooogledidoo...https://gizmodo.com/obsessed-audiophiles-in-japan-are-installing-their-own-1785291714https://thevinylfactory.com/news/japanese-audiophiles-personal-utility-pole/So what's another 500 bucks for yet another "superior" cable...

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 12:12:16 pm
content: Quote from: Haenk on February 27, 2023, 11:26:00 amTo be fair, "private poles" are actually fairly common for houses in Australia where the blocks of land are bigger then "normal" or if you live on acreage, and where the street cabling is overhead (pole-to-pole). I have a private pole in my front yard. It's just a 3-phase tap off the lines running down the street where it then runs underground to my meter/switch box.Someone who knows this subject more than me can confirm, but pole-to-house cabling just isn't done anymore.Of course these crazies are doing it for entirely the wrong reasons.

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 01:06:21 pm
content: Yeah for us it was to do with the sell off. The 'private pole' was the distinction made of what was grid and what was the consumer. That's not to say you own the part from the private pole to your side of the meters.

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 04:04:21 pm
content: I am sure, the "privat lines" are common on large private lands. But the mentioned japanese audiophool built an extra one only for his audio setup. That's not so common, even for Australia, I guess

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 06:17:55 pm
content: The article mentions 82 years old. I doubt that he can hear the difference between his setup run from one or the other utility connection.By the looks of it his tap is from a high tension line with his own transformer, so that will reduce the line pollution a bit, but his room where he listens to the music does not seem to be adapted to the perfect sound experience. Neither does the other one with the so small apartment that opening the fridge is cumbersome.For a real audio experience to perfection you would have to live in a studio that has been trimmed to perfection in combination with the speakers and amplifier.To take it to the extreme go and visit a setup that has no reflections at all. Very long ago I visited such a space in Paris. Can't recall the name of the institute, but it was a very strange experience to stand in the perfect center and hearing yourself only through your bone structure. Otherwise absolute exterior silence.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 06:33:38 pm
content: Quotehave the band play live in front of you

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 07:44:06 pm
content: Quote from: themadhippy on February 27, 2023, 06:33:38 pmThat is a totally different experienceDepending on the band you might need earplugs to enjoy it.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 08:19:33 pm
content: Quote from: themadhippy on February 27, 2023, 06:33:38 pmDoes the band have audiophile power cords, speaker wires, and all the majik add-ons to maketheirsound come out right?

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 08:56:41 pm
content: That's an idea for if you want good stuff to find out what bands use and even recording studios.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2023, 09:10:04 pm
content: Quotebog standard nothing fancy,the most exotic you'll find is star quad with neutrik on the ends.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 09:13:24 am
content: Quote from: themadhippy on February 27, 2023, 09:10:04 pmOh come on, Neutrikisfancy compared to the Chinese shit you can buy.

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 01:15:38 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on February 27, 2023, 08:19:33 pmWhen you look at the power rigs some bands use behind their guitar amps (AVR units, power isolation or even completely synthetic AC sources) the answer to that is *yes*.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 02:46:06 pm
content: QuoteBut that aint for audio quality reasons,thats more to do with protecting the kit from the dodgy power the 50 year old genny is spluttering out,it also makes multi country touring much simpler if you aint gotta worry about it being 110v or 230v 50Hz or 60Hz,and whist not so much of an issue in guitar world,step over to keyboard central and having a genys speed ramping up and down can really upset the musos day if there using vintage kit

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 03:25:43 pm
content: Quote from: themadhippy on February 28, 2023, 02:46:06 pmI read a great article with one of AC/DCs tour techs. He said Angus Young could quite easily tell if his amps weren't receiving pretty close to 236V on the button.

author: AVGresponding
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 05:20:31 pm
content: Quote from: BradC on February 28, 2023, 03:25:43 pmAnd if you believe that, I have some magic beans I want to sell you...

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 06:59:24 pm
content: Quote from: BradC on February 28, 2023, 03:25:43 pm*How?You know on old power supplies like ten years ago when the capacitors were wearing on them Icould<*Redacted. None of your bloody business!>quite easily tell as well.How? Changes in fan rpm that correlate to sudden power demand elsewhere. I hear the fans spin up and down a bit like on high cpu usage and activity with graphics card which obviously points to a drop on the 12v rail struggling to provide enough power.I am sure he might have a way to identify a change in voltage on his kit or familiar pieces of kit that exhibit a common symptom that many may not know what to look or hear out for.To me it's not a mystery but they seem to make it like it is one. I wonder whether he could he do it under a double blind test on it and across other pieces of kit where power supplies in them are designed differently.

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 08:37:04 pm
content: Brian May's guitar tech drags around an inverter set to 234/50.https://youtu.be/jJ_OamX-PA8?t=1700

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 10:44:52 pm
content: Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on February 28, 2023, 08:37:04 pmYea I've watched that video in the past. What he's doing (Pete Malandrone) is perfectly understandable. He wants the valve (I mean tube) amps to get the same AC power no matter where they go. They may change volume level a little bit or tone quality (even though I think they had some of that circuitry removed) if the power is a little off from 234 VAC. OK - those things are objective measurable parameters - not audiophool majik.

author: MartinX
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 10:52:46 pm
content: The guy behind those cables and audiophile rocks started to post in Swedish HiFi forums probably 15 years ago his views were controversial to say the least, he made outrageous claims about HiFi, food, health and all sorts of tweaks he made to his sound system, and compared to this guy the famous Peter Belt was a complete amateur. After a while he focused a lot on crystals and started Coconut audio selling the extremely thick mains cables.Some people on the forums thought the hole thing was so strange they speculated maybe he was some sort of conceptual artist trolling them. Then Coconut audio was changed to audiophile rocks and it still goes on, I think the guy is honest in the sense that he believes it works and that his cables and other tweaks makes the sound better.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 11:24:52 pm
content: Anything to do with this?http://www.adventuresinhifiaudio.com/14/01/2016/coconut-audios-vibradome-blue-star-into-the-unknown/#:~:text='Foundedin 2010, Coconut Audio,sound of the audio system.Quote* Could it be his sense of perception increased during the review trying to find answers?

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 11:30:35 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on February 27, 2023, 12:12:16 pmMy grandma's house had that. Actually she had two poles on her property, and a dedicated transformer feeding only her house which was formerly a chicken farm and thus had quite high power requirements back in the 60s when it was installed. The land was large enough that multiple poles were required to span the distance between the road and the house. I remember her saying they used a "trick" to greatly reduce the cost and paid for a leased yard light on a pole which the PUD would do at least back then. That way the utility would pay for everything up to the pole near the house which had the yard light on it, and from that it was only about a 40 foot run of triplex from that pole to the house.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 11:36:02 pm
content: Oh look what I found under another name:https://web.archive.org/web/20140511002314/http://coconut-audio.com/digital.htmlQuoteA hose with some crystal and fibre artwork on it.Quote from: MartinX on February 28, 2023, 10:52:46 pmJust like this one on their ebay listing:QuoteNonsense...sounds to me he pulls it out of his backside with a bit of pressure selling. I am sure if and when he feels like it more will come out like that.So he is saying he is the *only* person capable of making this *magical* stuff that you slap on your audio gear to improve the sound and others can't do the same.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 01, 2023, 02:51:00 am
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on February 28, 2023, 11:36:02 pmI think it means you have to be a complete coconut to even contemplate buying one.The stupid thing looks like a dog chew toy.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2023, 08:04:37 am
content: Just noticed this on the same page but with no picture:Quote*How can there be wires in there when it is suppose to be optical.https://www.brontecablecompany.com/products/copy-of-furutech-fx-alpha-ag-coaxial-fp-160-g-spdif-digital-cableQuoteSo $540 for 3.5m and that's about 18 times markup.

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2023, 09:59:47 am
content: Quoteno one else sees this?Cut off the cable ends and you have a $500 kinky toyfor server geeks in the back room,where the old school Xerox is parkedDefinitely an office party no go zone for normal folks, sober or not

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2023, 10:15:39 am
content: "2-stage Alien crystal formula"I might invest an extra grand or so for a 3-stage Alien crystal formula tuned SATA-cable. But 2-stage is just outdated technology, no wonder the aliens left that crystal stuff in his pants or stove (not sure). Not-so-polite people and aliens would just describe it as "waste dumping"...

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2023, 06:05:09 pm
content: I was initially rather shock that anyone would buy an meter-long AC cord at over $100 let alone 50x that. That curiosity took me to Dave's video and others... "What kind of nuts are these..." was dominating my thoughts.But... The value of things is defined by what others are willing to pay to have it.I am sure in a blind test, one cannot distinguish whether one is wearing the Hope Diamond or one is wearing merely a properly shaped and weighted piece of common rock. So, "fools" are aplenty everywhere you look.If $5000 for an extension cord buys them satisfaction or happiness, It is not for me to argue.... (If you can peek into my brain, you would see my dominating thought still is: Damn bloody fools, go buy miniature solid gold toilet, it will hold its value better...)

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2023, 06:31:09 pm
content: Quote from: Rick Law on March 01, 2023, 06:05:09 pm"There's a sucker born every minute."Often attributed to P.T. BarnumI've wondered, what if the seller of these BS parts came out and just said -"All this crap is bogus - it don't do jack squat. I will offer to refund all your money."This after many audiofools have made posted claims of sound improvement. How many would admit they were wrong and get the refund? I bet not all would.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2023, 07:09:52 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on March 01, 2023, 06:31:09 pmNobody likes to admit they were fooled, so you are likely to win

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2023, 09:56:15 am
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on March 01, 2023, 07:09:52 pmThey are more likely to state that any comment and exposure of their ripoff foolery expenditureis because concerned clued people tipping them off are jealous and poor,and clicking on too many Youtube mythbusting channels,with no appreciation or understanding of 'you get what you pay for..'

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2023, 10:25:53 am
content: Quote from: xrunner on March 01, 2023, 06:31:09 pmClassic cognitive dissonance at work. Since I can't admit wasting a large sum on audiophoolery it makes me believe the sound is better. Problem solved.

author: Ranayna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2023, 04:16:02 pm
content: I always wonder how many of these things are essentially money laundering schemes.If an actual audiophool buys one of these cables, all the better for the launderers

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2023, 05:31:55 am
content: Just looking at more of his things but noticed the about info has changed from when I last looked:Archive.org:https://web.archive.org/web/20221210025339/https://www.ebay.com/usr/audiophile.rocks#tab1Quote from: MrMobodies on February 22, 2023, 04:14:22 amNow:https://www.ebay.com/usr/audiophile.rocks?#tab1QuoteBuzzword bullshit:Proprietary, crystal formulas, fine-tuned*By which method used to calculate what the ear is getting? or by the ear itself?**We recommend you SPEND ALL OF YOUR MONEY on rocks until there is no space left on your audio system.***After you reach that stage, the joy of them wears out and then you get sucked into more overpriced rocks until you get overdrawn in debt and then it is all over.23rd of October 2020https://web.archive.org/web/20201023095309/https://www.ebay.com/usr/audiophile.rocksQuote

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2023, 05:37:29 pm
content: Search Google:Audiogon audiorockshttps://www.google.com/search?q=Audiogon+audiorocksAudiophile Rocks | Shop &Research- AudiogonJust found this onAUDIOGOONand I wonder is this him?https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa13c3-audiophile-rocks-white-night-superstar-1m-eu-schuko-ac-cablesQuoteOpinions for facts.*It is surround sound like SRS3D/DTS in some form or effect built into the amp or player.**Every other cable has got to be better than his in that he just picks any bog standard normal sata cable and threads it through some art decor rock and hose.Search Google:coconut audio patrickhttps://www.google.com/search?q=coconut+audio+patrickPatrick Nut - Inventor - Coconut-Audio | LinkedInhttps://se.linkedin.com/in/patrick-nut-00486a89QuoteSo it IS him and he has an AudioGoon account too.Nut as in the name.I wonder if that his not his real name, he knows what he is doing and making making a mockery out of it.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2023, 01:54:33 pm
content: He lied twice before about his Superstar Sata cable being the last one:https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/audiophile.rocks?user_context=BUYERQuoteSo he lie's again that his latest Superstar sata cable is hislast onein his live listing:Superstar SATA 25mm 0.5m grey carbon (LAST and best computer Hi-Fi cable)(#295484459432)https://www.ebay.com/itm/295484459432Unless he means just the art decor and not his "proprietary formula".QuoteI'll have to wait and see for another listing to see if that says the same thing.

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2023, 06:07:34 pm
content: Now that looks like a legit salesman. I would happily hand him over thousands of bucks for some space optimizedcrapcrystals.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2023, 06:37:26 pm
content: How gullible do you have to be to buy into this bullshit.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2023, 06:50:12 pm
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on March 08, 2023, 06:37:26 pmHmmm. I'm wonderin' what would happen if I put one or two of them rock-things on top of my 34401A, would it improve it's performance?

author: aeberbach
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2023, 08:10:12 pm
content: Isn't the disguise a giveaway? He doesn't have an online betting agency or pub full of pokies to do it with, so he's taking money for nothing cottage industry style. At least he's only targeting those with too much money to begin with.

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2023, 01:09:51 pm
content: I think I have identified this guy.https://www.hitta.se/patrick+marcus+sebastian+liljegren/bergvik/person/dRw-1J7ecEAge matches, "Patrick" matches, and the Liljegren from Coconut matches as well.More:https://www.youtube.com/c/RotationMaster

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2023, 03:08:20 pm
content: Excellent work, "Patrick Marcus Sebastian Liljegren" now that Sounds more like it."Nut" didn't sound to me like part of his real name at first but now I think he could mean it shortened for coconut.See the outline? I wonder if that is greenscreened.Also despite the audio equipment showing a shadows on that pool table it seems a bit blurred compared to the rest and a slight reflect on the edges of the bottom side.His appearance reminds me of something I have seen before a bit like a pirate.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2023, 03:14:18 pm
content: QuoteGreat idea,im gonna stick a couple on the top of my mates marshal stack,that should guarantee an international no 1 hit single.

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2023, 06:37:21 pm
content: Foolishness knows no bounds. It is really ironic that the really stupid ones are too stupid to know they are stupid.It would be interesting to see, with upcoming economic downturns, if such foolishness is affected by general economic conditions as say expensive coffee. But, given current state of affairs, there is probably a multi-million dollar government grant already given to study audio rock price vs broccoli price already. I'll just monitor the Silly Walk Ministry website and not miss the results.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2023, 09:57:08 pm
content: It looks like he green screened the whole thing apart from the snooker table and possibly the lights which he spoke of:youtube.com/watch?v=fdGgJYsS94sComparing different pool masks, which one is the bestRotation Master 3.67K subscribers80 views 1 year agoQuoteQuote from: Rick Law on March 09, 2023, 06:37:21 pmJust noticed in the background:So he didn't just put it in there for show and removed it after the ebay listing but left it in there and it looks like he might even believe his own claims.

author: pmankow
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 16, 2023, 07:59:13 pm
content: Ummm.... you guys realize this is a joke and you and everyone else is being trolled... right?

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 16, 2023, 08:19:26 pm
content: With "Nut" in his Linkedin profile name that did cross my mind.

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2023, 08:08:03 am
content: Quote from: pmankow on March 16, 2023, 07:59:13 pmPer se, I would agree.However, he is selling this stuff for years on his ebay account, so I would assume some commercial interest, which makes this a fraud.

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2023, 05:35:35 pm
content: Quote from: Haenk on March 17, 2023, 08:08:03 amTechnically, whether it's a fraud depends on what is stated in this cable's specifications.upd: I checked the listing. There are literally no claims, except that "the best SATA cable ever made" may be considered inappropriate advertising in some jurisdictions.

author: DavidAlfa
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2023, 09:14:56 pm
content: Stop ranting about a very lucrative business, be smart, let's sell audiophile-grade toothpicks for $50

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2023, 06:41:34 pm
content: Quote from: DavidAlfa on March 18, 2023, 09:14:56 pmNahhh... I think "rants" and technical discussion here would not make a bit of difference at all.If reality such as (web and printed) pages and pages of technical data, scope display, so on havealready been put forth over the yearsand made no difference, why would a few more pages of rants by "people who doesn't have refined ears" make any difference?In fact, folks here can use "business ideas" and this discussion reaffirms "there is money out there to be made". It would be interesting to consult someone of high repute and respect: "If buyer is willing and no lies were told, is it moral to sell something that you know for sure wont do any good or harm?"

author: aeberbach
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2023, 10:15:56 pm
content: Quote from: DavidAlfa on March 18, 2023, 09:14:56 pmI think you will find that I have those patented, just biding my time.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2023, 08:21:08 pm
content: Quote from: Rick Law on March 19, 2023, 06:41:34 pmReminds me a bit like the gambling machines.Doesn't do any harm until they get taken in and all their money is gone despite the warnings on the unit and a gambling careline phone number.Taken in with the imaginary claims that it will make their audio output sound better where they say as Dave Jones mentioned something about in his Audiofoolery video that they have come out with bigger, better, bolder claims that about their new cables sounding better to hook the buyers in.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2023, 10:10:37 pm
content: Quote from: Rick Law on March 19, 2023, 06:41:34 pmUh. Most of what is being sold fits in that category.Who gets to decide what is good or harmful? (Excepting harmful as in dangerous, of course, which is already illegal anyway.)Debunking dodgy stuff is good. It's fun and has the potential to educate people.And, anything that qualifies as a scam or is not compliant with regulations is illegal. So if you can prove something is illegal to sell, end of the story.In all other cases, making it a moral matter and going down this slippery lane? I don't think so.

author: AVGresponding
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 06:48:41 am
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 23, 2023, 10:10:37 pmAlcohol, tobacco, and high sugar/fat foods are all legal, and all scientifically proven to be harmful, period. Firearms are dangerous (which to me, mean they are harmful whenmisused, and arevery easilymisused) but legal in quite a few countries.Hell,carsare dangerous, in fact any vehicle pretty much is.

author: nikitasius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 04, 2023, 07:00:03 am
content: Almost 4y ago i made my own cable for my headphones.It use litz 0.7mm², G+L braided w/ step 20mm, G+R w/ step 34mm, and both channels are braided w/ step 50mm guess. Also it's shielded additionally.It's well protected and well soldered. Sound is improved 😁