Lots of tanks being blown up on youtube! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2022, 08:50:59 pm
content: This is just insane. Its like a video game. I am reminded of the retreat of the Iraqi armoured forces from Kuwait on that nameless highway where so many tanks were just blown up one after another.These Javelins are the real winners of this Ukraine war, they are like the personal antitank missiles formerly used by Soviet and Chinese forces, except much more effective. They are destroying a lot of helicopters too. Blowing them right out of the sky.They better pray the Ukrainians dont get jets to harass their retreat. In iraq 1500 vehicles were blown up on that highway back to Iraq. Many were filled with loot the Iraqis were hoping to bring back home, instead they became "targets of opportunity" in their cars and tanks.Which means chum. Bait. They should have aimed their tanks at the conmanders who sent them into Ukraine.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 06, 2022, 09:05:07 pm
content: It's not a tank but an infantry fighting vehicle with a quite weak armor and basically no other protection. No javelin in the video either.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2022, 09:19:26 pm
content: Whatever it is it looks very effective at removing those vehicles marked "Z" from the conflict.

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2022, 12:43:20 am
content: Not just US made Javelin missiles but NLAWs too. <https://www.military-today.com/missiles/nlaw.htm>Many Russian tanks have their ammo storied in the turret so when they're hit the ammo usually blows up too. That why you're seeing many of the Russian tanks blown all to hell and the turrets blown 100 or more feet away from the hull.I'm waiting for the REAL show to begin when the US and the Europeans give Ukraine some long range rockets or artillery or possible even aircraft. Then they're going to be able to really reach out and "touch" the Russians and you'll see destroyed Russian equipment all over the country.One of the previous posters is correct, many of the destroyed vehicles that are being shown aren't tanks but also IFVs and other armored and sometimes unarmored vehicles. Apparently the US and the Europeans have given the Ukrainians so many anti-tank weapons that they don't need to conserve them and can now afford to use them against any Russian vehicle.I would not want to be a tanker in this war!

author: M4trix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2022, 01:18:47 am
content: That BTR-4 sounds like a bus. It's like...psss...and then the door opens.Btw, that BTR-4 crew released another video couple of days ago. Since then, nothing. Probably something happened to them. I hope they're still alive.

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2022, 02:30:00 am
content: Thermal Imaging worlds hot spots & looking over the fence as this......!Russ find Ukra military headquarters Mariupol so military in a state of panic on April 1stdid try for 2 days 2 get Fren & others evacuated also in Mariupolhelicopters try evacuating the Ukra command at Mariupol. two helicopters shot down by Russ.helicopter revenge attack on Russ oil site strike at Belgord 2 days later.world new spit in to taking sides. even try to use The Pope in this mess! kissing flag.so EU gos renewable cold turkey without Russ gas or oil!. pay in ruble or get nothing.Russ & Chi vs others. looming food panic.

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2022, 12:29:52 pm
content: Short incomprehensible sentences. Little or no punctuation or capitalization. You need to work on your writing if you want anyone to be able to understand you.Germany and Europe and some other parts of the world have been trying to get away from fossil fuels so this might be the PUSH that they need to finally accomplish that. NO country should be dependent on another for 60% of it's fuel/energy supplies! The US learned that lesson the HARD way in the 1970s and the rest of the world should have learned from that example. Cheap foreign fuel is great, but no country should shut down their own sources to the point that they have to RELY on that foreign fuel.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2022, 05:06:30 pm
content: There is a good argument to be made that tanks are now obsolete as a weapon of war, due to the effectiveness and low cost of modern anti-tank weapons.e.g.https://www.rawstory.com/r-2657082991/

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2022, 06:37:03 pm
content: Quote from: Stray Electron on April 07, 2022, 12:29:52 pmWe've had cheap domestic fuel, the cheapest in the world. Did people get ahead living warm with cheap gas? No, we didn't learn any lessons. We've had decades of cheap subsidized fuel and especially wasteful single paned windows, leaking heat for the last 40 years and lots of buildings you would never see in Europe, very old and thin walls.. Most of the country is very energy inefficient. So now its going away, which is going to mean a lot of redevelopment and disruption as a great many struggling working people find they have to move out of cheap fuel subsidized homes and when they have toi move they'll find they cant afford to rent a replacement, or dont have perfect credit because of coronavirus and being behind of rent. That will mean they will find they can't live in much of the country any more. And there wont be any alternative for housing they can still afford. Oh well. They just think they know everything. They have been CONNED, badly. They'll figure it out. Don't worry, be happy.They seem to feel as if they are immune from all this. But There is no entitlement to affordable housing here. And even if you own a house, if its deemed obsolete and your neighborhood is redeveloped, you'll likely get a bare pittance for it, and have to move, (this is what always has happened, for example in San Francisco, entire neighborhoods looked like they dropped the bomb in the 70s. Thousands of black and Asian families were pushed out. Their homes sold for pennies on the dollar. and the nearest place they could afford were in the Central Valley, Sacramento, Modesto, Fresno. In other words, hundreds of miles away and literally in the middle of nowhere, and everything in the City, Hunters Point, cost four times as much. The average price paid for beautiful huge painted ladies-old Victorians that I wandered through after they had been condemned.. I still dream about this 25-30 years later. Wandering through these homes which were about to be torn down or in some cases, carried away.. sold for $1. The compensation these black families were offered was almost nothing, average in SF was around $29,000. At the beginning the plan was to build a freeway through there.. up the Panhandle, and out to the ocean. But they stopped it, but they still tore down the Fillmore anyway. Houses that a very few years later, the rare ones that remained, sold for millions. Of course Renters got nothing. They just have been very naive. Its like what happened in the 1970s, with the large number of people being bamboozled out of their homes. Its a dishonesty sickness, a greed disease the oldest trick in the book how they are just swallowing the bullshit being fed to them. And being escorted out the doors and into poverty. Its the Finance Curse that Nicholas Shaxson writes about.These huge corporations have been buying up entire neighborhoods anticipating this huge eminent domain redevelopment which comes with it all sorts of tax money.. So the ripoffs are being subsidized, corporations paid to toss poor working stiffs and brown people and students trying to get a life out on the street! They end up in tents with their laptops. Under the freeway. Its all rigged. They got rid of everything that saved lots of money, without fail.In some cases they became very expensive luxuries. Like "health food". They took away the cheap natural food stores.. the food co-ops and in exchange we got "Whole Foods" which alienated many of their workforce with the unwholesome direction they took.. and ugly American Jeff Bezos.Well, we still have Trader Joes, which is owned by a European chain I think. Aldi? I dont know. But its not the same. Its a lot more expensive than the "co-ops" I grew up with during the hippie era. I was a hippie back then, kind of, I suppose. Before it became trendy.. ha ha... So were all the people who later became techies..

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2022, 07:36:15 pm
content: Quote from: SilverSolder on April 07, 2022, 05:06:30 pmThe missiles are apparently worth a lot more than the tanks that are being blown up in such quantity.The same applies to societies. And trust. Its relatively cheap to blow things up than to build them. It takes decades to raise children to man these tanks and create a system that feeds them into the Flanders fields for the poppies to grow upon. Or in the trenches to joyfully die for their kings and queens.. but just takes seconds for the sublimely modern technology to blow them to smithereens. The same applies to the pensioners in Ukraine who have been dying like flies in the streets. Its a truly horrible situation.Guess the young men of the world, often called "cannon fodder" are inexpensive to these oligarchs to keep themselves in power. They pay no costs.They are now even born to Ukrainian specialists in gestational surrogacy.. Rich couples come from all around the world to have others bear their children. Its a new international business. There is a great example of trade in services for you. Thats supposed to be the future of work..

author: floobydust
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 08, 2022, 05:51:50 am
content: Old RussianT-72weight 41 tonnes, Transmash V-12 diesel engine 780HP (turbocharged) 38.88 litres displacement, with 1,200L/320 US GAL fuel tank. The newerT-90looks similar and up to 1,600L fuel storage. Range is spec'd 500km but I think that's not realistic.Tanks are incredible pigs on fuel. Imagine just the fuel costs alone.diesel pricesone site said fuel consumption is 0.38 km/L (0.81 mpg).