Help find a musical composition - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 01:10:55 am
content: Ok, I'm running out of options, so may be people here can help. I'm looking for a song (more like musical composition, I guess). I had it on my hard drive from unknown source some time around early 2000s. I think it probably from late 90s.It is an instrumental composition. I'm not sure what to call that genre. It has no real lyrics, but has some sampled recorded speech overlayed on top of the music. The music itself is electronic, I guess, similar to Jean-Michel Jarre and similar artists.The "song" is about Titanic. The words were in a style of radio reportage of sorts, very formal and dry language . They may have even been sampled from some official tapes, but I'm not sure about that.At the beginning the words were about starting to sail and at the end something like "<N> souls were lost". And in the middle there is a word "Titanic" repeated multiple times.It is very hard to look for it, since it it impossible to get rid of the Celine Dion song. And generally there is a lot of stuff about Titanic.Any ideas are welcome.It is super strange how a song can exist and then just disappear never to be found again.

author: SpecialK
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 01:24:27 am
content: Okay. So tell us a bit more about where you first heard it. Were you in the States at the time? What region? Would it have been something played on the radio or in local clubs?

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 01:27:42 am
content: I was in Russia. It was an mp3 file. I had no internet at a time, but the there was no shortage of pirated CDs, so it came from one of those. Or from friends exchanging massive collections of mp3s.I don't think it was a radio-type song. It is just way too ambient, radio likes more dynamic stuff. And it is also not a club thing, again, it would be too chill for that.

author: SpecialK
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 02:46:03 am
content: Maybe?

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 02:56:43 am
content: No, the song was of a typical length (4-5 minutes). It also had a more of a beat. And it did not feel too old. I doubt it is older than 1995., probably even more recent.And the word "Titanic" was pronounced multiple times in up beat parts of the music.It may have been some European band, which would not be well known.

author: SpecialK
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 03:16:52 am
content: https://www.allmusic.com/album/titanic-ambient-impressions-of-the-deep-mw0000059271

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 03:23:57 am
content: No, but the style and the genre is basically that.It was a single song, I don't think it was a part of a set. The whole story from sailing to sinking happened in one composition.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 09:34:00 am
content: Can you post a short sample? Hopefully a few seconds would be enough for someone to identify it and still count as fair use/dealing, so Dave won't be done by the copyright police. Once it has been correctly identified, then you could delete it, to minimise the risk of any trouble.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 09:46:06 am
content: ... or record your rhyme and post here ...

author: Circlotron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 11:03:22 am
content: Something by OMD - Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark?

author: DenzilPenberthy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 12:57:28 pm
content: It sounds like something the band 'Public Service Broadcasting' would do but early 2000s would be well before they were active I think.

author: MasterBuilder
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 01:12:32 pm
content: Johann JohannssonSounds like something similar to "IBM 1401, A User's manual".I don't know was the Titanic ever mentioned in his songs.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 03:59:04 pm
content: Quote from: Zero999 on October 05, 2020, 09:34:00 amIf I had a sample, I would have found it already. That's the issue - I don't have it. It has been 20 years, things get lost, especially with poor backup capabilities at a time.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 04:17:03 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 05, 2020, 03:59:04 pmCan't you at least hum it? Don't be embarrassed if your singing is crap.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 04:22:46 pm
content: Not really, I don't remember much of it. Also, it is electronic music, I'm not sure how to even hum it.It is one of those things that people that have heart it will recognize it immediately from the description. But it looks like it was some obscure piece of music.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 04:29:03 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 05, 2020, 04:22:46 pmHow about play it on a synth?

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 04:31:49 pm
content: I would not be able to play twinkle twinkle little star, much less the actual song from 20 years ago.

author: Buriedcode
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 04:51:16 pm
content: Any of these?https://www.allmusic.com/album/titanic-ambient-impressions-of-the-deep-mw0000059271

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 04:53:04 pm
content: Quote from: Buriedcode on October 05, 2020, 04:51:16 pmThis was already suggested earlier. No, none of those are what I'm looking for, although stylistically this is the closest so far.

author: DrG
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2020, 04:54:45 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 05, 2020, 04:31:49 pmCan you hum a few bars

author: gnavigator1007
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 02:34:40 am
content: I've been searching long enough that this page showed up in resultsI'll keep at it, but please post it if you come across it first. I love music hunts like this

author: Circlotron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 03:25:37 am
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 05, 2020, 01:10:55 amI'm reminded of this account in the Bible book of Daniel, chapter 2."In the second year of his reign, Nebuchadnezzar had dreams; his mind was troubled and he could not sleep. 2 So the king summoned the magicians, enchanters, sorcerers and astrologers to tell him what he had dreamed. When they came in and stood before the king, 3 he said to them, “I have had a dream that troubles me and I want to know what it means.”4 Then the astrologers answered the king, “May the king live forever! Tell your servants the dream, and we will interpret it.”5 The king replied to the astrologers, “This is what I have firmly decided: If you do not tell me what my dream was and interpret it, I will have you cut into pieces and your houses turned into piles of rubble."LOL. Tough one.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 04:42:54 am
content: Maybe there's a forum for European electronic music, or whatever the genre is? There are probably groups of people more knowledgeable about music on average than engineers.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 02:05:46 pm
content: I once had a similar yearning to find a piece of music I'd heard many years ago ... 1975, in fact.I only found it this year.By sheer chance, someone here on the EEVblog put up a YT clip ... and I clicked on it. Three notes in and I recognised it as the long sought after piece.If the universe applies a similar time scale to you, come back here in 2040 or 41 and someone will have posted it ... not knowing it was what you were after.

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 03:54:16 pm
content: This is not it, but I'm still looking... amazing how much good Titanic related music is out there that I never knew about....The lyrics remind me of something like Jeff Wayne's War of The Worlds... but related to Titanic.

author: Jan Audio
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 04:17:49 pm
content: Try discogs.

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 05:50:25 pm
content: Quote from: Jan Audio on October 06, 2020, 04:17:49 pmIt's a tiny needle in a titanic-sized haystack looking for it!I've listened to probably a dozen different artists already and can't seem to find anything that matches.Perhaps a better idea of the genre would help. You mentioned Jean-Michel Jarre, so does that mean sort of electronica but not techno/dance? More ambient, synthesizer-sounding? Are there strong beats? Tempo? Anything else that might help narrow things down. Audio clips on top of music but no chorus/verses, just someone saying "Titanic" in the middle?

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 05:57:29 pm
content: Quote from: edy on October 06, 2020, 05:50:25 pmThat is exactly how I would describe it.Quote from: edy on October 06, 2020, 05:50:25 pmIt is not like trance/techno, so no strong beat, but there is are drums setting the rhythm.Quote from: edy on October 06, 2020, 05:50:25 pmExactly."Titanic" is said multiple times. The structure of the music is such that tension builds up multiple times and then on "release" of that tension the word Titanic is said.The audio clips only present at the beginning/end of the composition, kind of setting up the stage and providing the closing.

author: SpecialK
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 07:47:49 pm
content: Yep. I've seen this process before:https://www.tivocommunity.com/community/index.php?threads/soak-name-of-an-80s-song-i-can%C2%92t-remember.413003/page-20After 20 pages, the song was found.

author: gnavigator1007
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 06, 2020, 11:58:53 pm
content: Is this it?https://youtu.be/NQY3AkoJHn8

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2020, 12:02:11 am
content: THIS IS IT.Ok, I guess Era should have come to mind, but if I'm not mistaken I've looked at their songs and did not find it.EDIT: I'm not finding this in the Era discography.EDIT 2: I'm totally confused who is author here.EDIT3: Ok, I'm not senile. It is not Era. It is something called "Ocean Voyager - Titanic Expedition".Here is an actual clip with the real nameThe first two comments: "You have no idea for how long i was looking this song." and "finally i've found this song :)Thanks"Something about this makes is very hard to find.

author: gnavigator1007
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2020, 12:23:48 am
content: Alright! I don't know why, but I was hunting pretty obsessively. Very difficult to find a way past all of the movie related stuff. Discovered quite a number of artists I'll have to go back and listen to along the way.After running out of normal lyric searches, I started thinking I might be able to find something more recent that had sampled what you were looking for. No luck after listening to a bunch of tracks. I then decided to set Pandora on my Isao Tomita station and started skipping thru related artists and searching with the word titanic. Eventually switched to my Tangerine Dream station and did the same thing. My fifth search was finally a success! This was a lot of fun, so thank you.The funniest thing I found along the way was called Titanic by DJ Iceberg

author: gnavigator1007
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2020, 01:05:14 am
content: Big surprise that the misattributed YouTube video is the one with the most views

author: SpecialK
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2020, 01:08:32 am
content: This songs seems to remind me of Techmoan's outro music. One of the samples seems the same...

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2020, 04:28:00 pm
content: Congratulations on the find....https://www.discogs.com/Ocean-Voyager-Titanic-Expedition/release/3363699Full album here:Seems to be a soundtrack to a documentary on the Titanic:Ocean Voyager ‎– Titanic Expedition : original soundtrackHome / Tv Show / CD / Ocean Voyager ‎– Titanic ExpeditionProduct DescriptionComposer: CarasusánLabel: Polystar ‎– 537 713-2Year: 1997Condition: usedGrade: ex/NMmade in GermanyTracklist1 Titanic Expedition 5:582 Secrets 6:503 Prophecy 5:384 S.O.S. Part 1 1:505 S.O.S. Part 2 4:536 Silence 5:527 Futility 3:558 The Dive 6:299 Ocean Voyager 4:5510 Wreck Of The Titanic 4:2711 Love Of Our Hearts 3:07