Apollo 12 SCE to AUX - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: fourtytwo42
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2017, 07:43:03 pm
content: Man that was real good, thanks Homer

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2017, 01:53:39 am
content: What an awesome tale! Good to see management listened to and relied on the advice, albeit obscure, from one of the "workers". Bosses should be saying "yes" by default, unless there is damn good reason to say "no".

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2017, 05:35:07 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on September 05, 2017, 01:53:39 amThat was the job of that worker. Management had him there exactly because of the knowledge and skills he possessed. I would have been astonished if they didn't act on his recommendation.Certainly they would have been scratching their heads - because they would not have come across such an obscure scenario in simulations and training. It would have been a curious call for sure.More to the point, they wouldn't be aware of any negative impact that might cause them to hesitate - and since they were all expecting and "abort" call, to have a recommendation for something different would have caught them off guard. Considering the impending failure, I can see the transmission to the command module as a "nothing to lose" instruction. An abort could still be on the cards.The best indicator of the reaction to the call was that nervous laugh at the end. I could really sense the elation.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2017, 06:13:53 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on September 05, 2017, 05:35:07 amRefreshing words. If only other organisations worked that way.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2017, 10:16:29 am
content: Don't worry - I was just as heartened.I, too, have had the harsh reality of "Management" decisions in a commercial environment. I have stories - and very few are of the "SCE to AUX" type. The majority are ones that everyone here would have experienced - perhaps with different words, but the same tune.

author: Tomorokoshi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2017, 05:02:27 pm
content: John Aaron went on to be instrumental in developing the power-up procedure for the Command Module in Apollo 13.

author: German_EE
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2017, 05:17:06 pm
content: You put someone in charge of something and then you TRUST THEM to do their job, some modern managers need to learn this lesson.

author: marshallh
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2017, 10:00:12 pm
content: NASA was really quite a different beast in terms of management and chain of accountability prior to Apollo 1. When they lost all three astronauts in a completely preventable accident, the entire organization did some soul searching. Much of the extreme systems knowledge and personal accountability that NASA exhibited after that point is owed directly to Apollo 1. Every systems controller knew the entire command and lunar module structure, design and troubleshooting by heart, even personally visiting the production line workers. Imagine working at Grumman and the astronaut who will be flying the spacecraft comes to see you building it on the assembly line.

author: Neilm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 17, 2019, 06:54:05 pm
content: I was watching the video when I saw the post