Fluke, "Calibration-Philosophy in Practice" Book in pdf form - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Qmavam
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2022, 12:47:56 pm
content: I thought some here may be interested.http://www.introni.it/pdf/Fluke%20-%20Calibration%20Philosophy%20in%20practice.pdfMikek

author: MegaVolt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2022, 01:40:11 pm
content: Quote from: Qmavam on October 23, 2022, 12:47:56 pmThank you. This is the best quality I have come across.Does anyone have a second edition?

author: Conrad Hoffman
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2022, 04:24:17 pm
content: Pretty sure Fluke either released the 1st themselves or was OK with it, but the 2nd edition is still sold by them. If you find a pdf, it's violating copyright.

author: Zenwizard
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2022, 05:07:47 pm
content: I ended up buying my second edition. I can say the second edition is work getting if it can be found for a reasonable price. To me $500.00 is NOT a reasonable price.Zen

author: DH7DN
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2022, 02:06:13 am
content: We have the 2nd Edition at work. After reading few chapters, I decided that I wouldn't buy this book unless it's really affordable (< $60, which is not the case).The book gives a good overview how to establish a calibration laboratory and traceability to the national standards.Some chapters are still accurate in 2022 but the book has aged well and a lot has happened since its release in 1994. The good laboratory practices stated in the book are still the same like 28 years ago.If you're managing a(n accredited) calibration laboratory, this book will not give you new insights but may sharpen your attention to details. It feels like it's written by a 1994 Fluke Metrology Lab manager for a 1994 Fluke Lab manager. The book won't be very useful to a year 2022 metrology hobbyist because most of us don't own commercial equipment from that era (yet).

author: PixieDust
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2022, 07:02:04 am
content: Is the book still not under copyright???

author: mendip_discovery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2022, 11:52:29 am
content: Quote from: PixieDust on October 29, 2022, 07:02:04 amYes. But I suspect if Fluke tried to do something about it, it would take them more time, money and effort than it's worth.I would love to have a read of the 2nd edition book but not for the price it is currently retailing at. Having flicked through the 1st edition I can assume it's a guide to setting up a lab and getting your head around some of the basics but from a Fluke PoV where you will be working with Fluke equipment.

author: alm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2022, 09:07:28 pm
content: Quote from: mendip_discovery on October 29, 2022, 11:52:29 amI agree that it's not worth the current prices of well over $100 (I'm sure I paid much less). I haven't compared them side by side, but according to Fluke the second edition has over 400 pages (they use per-chapter numbering, so I can't easily verify), while the first was one fourth of that. So the second goes into quite a more detail. It describes at a somewhat elementary level the standards and transfers of electrical quantities, including a bit of history. Unlike the first edition it describes JVS/QHE as primary standards. It will also give a very schematic description of how their current products in the early nineties like 732B, 752A, 720A, 5700A etc worked. And it gives some general description on a range of topics including cabling, guarding, parasitics, statistics and uncertainties. None of it is super in-depth, for example the GUM documents by BIPM go into much more depth then the uncertainty chapter in the Fluke book, but in my opinion its breadth makes it useful.

author: PixieDust
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2022, 09:34:19 am
content: For anyone interested, I found this for the second edition for a more reasonable price. Shipping is expensive. To Americans and Canadians might be worth it.https://www.abebooks.com/Calibration-Philosophy-Practice-Fluke-Corporation-Corp/31280484445/bd

author: mendip_discovery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2022, 10:00:21 am
content: Quote from: PixieDust on November 01, 2022, 09:34:19 amAlso for $75 athttps://ncsli.org/store/viewproduct.aspx?id=16908558but I am not sure if you need to be a member to buy it. TBH this is what caused a lot of books to be pirated in the first place. Out of print and expensive due to supply. I doubt Fluke is that worried about it these days as they got their money back and it was partly a marketing thing anyway. Mitutoyo sells a very handy mechanical metrology book, but it talks about their stuff and how to do measurements with their kit, they make it cheap/free to customers.

author: alm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2022, 12:05:53 pm
content: I doubt Fluke sells many copies. Probably most of them are handed out to people attending metrology courses at Fluke.Quote from: PixieDust on November 01, 2022, 09:34:19 amLooks like the reasonably-priced copy is already gone, since the cheapest price it shows me is $118.99. The trick, like with most used items in limited supply, is probably to check frequently and buy as soon as you see a cheaper one coming up. I don't know if any of the used books sites allow something like price alerts.

author: Kosmic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2022, 12:40:02 am
content: Quote from: PixieDust on November 01, 2022, 09:34:19 amFor reference, I bought an used copy from abebooks last year. Was 13$ for the book and 14$ shipping.

author: MegaVolt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2022, 08:18:26 am
content: I have this book and I have a scanner. But I do not understand all these copyrights(Especially for books that are many, many years old ...If the community approves, I could scan it. It will take time but I think everything is real

author: Conrad Hoffman
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2022, 01:18:10 pm
content: No, you can't scan and distribute it. The rule that probably applies is:70 years after the death of author. If a work ofcorporate authorship, 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation, whichever expires first.The details are here:https://guides.library.cornell.edu/copyright/publicdomain

author: Mickle T.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2022, 01:31:28 pm
content: I have had the second edition for a long time (albeit in Chinese, but this is not a problem for me). The second edition is 4 times thicker than the first, but the same number of times less interesting and fascinating reading. I would definitely not buy it on the original.

author: mendip_discovery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2022, 05:24:15 pm
content: Quote from: Conrad Hoffman on November 02, 2022, 01:18:10 pmUnless you are Disney then you can keep the copyrights forever after.Copyright is a strange thing. How many of us have stuff that technically is in breach of copyright laws (service manuals). But then again if it wasnt for the breaking of the rules I doubt the whole online tv/music services wouldn't have taken off so well. Unless Fluke are printing more then they have made thier money and the book has become like some software/games and seen as abandoned. But this is a personal choice and it really grates me when the free to most file is then sold on ebay on a USB for some silly money. Plus I have been on the other side with people just taking my photos off my website to use on thier Facebook etc.

author: sokoloff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2022, 05:51:27 pm
content: I found this line interesting (because I presume this has since been inverted):Quote from: Fluke manual