Any way to stop windows 10 startup hijacking - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: MathWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 05:35:55 am
content: Once and a while on windows10 startup, after entering your password, instead of windows going to desktop and allowing you access to your PC in an emergency, it will go to some promotion for windows11, or some other windows features.And I just hate, lately I've just been rebooting rather than interact with it.It's like someone breaking into my house (and yes windows already knows everything I do).I've disabled some annoying windows features, anyone how to get rid of this one ?

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 06:06:30 am
content: find the offensive update pack who add this functionalityblock your update service with tools ...now you will need to update manually your pc with other toolsthan microsoftor find a way with group policies or google search how to block some updates from installing ... or block any win 11 related crap from installing by enforcing some registry keys and or thru group policyblock any win 11 installation ?use deepfreeze to lock your windows state ...as you see no easy options, windows 10 and up is declared a service ... not an os ... m$oft is playing with us

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 06:13:00 am
content: Switch to a Mac or Linux.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 12:34:41 pm
content: I've been blocking ALL Microsoft traffic at the router for several years now. If I need to, I can always bypass the router. Devices, like my wife's iPhone talk directly to the modem.There have only been a couple of occasions where I needed to gain access. MS will get their hooks in fast. So it always seems to involve running wireshark for a few days to see if they added some hard coded addresses to their latest patches, then updating the router.At least in my case, Windows 10 has proven to be one of their most stable OS's once I took MS out of the equation.

author: Fflint
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 01:12:32 pm
content: You know what I find bloody unacceptable ? I set windows update service to disabled. I restart the computer. It's set to automatic again and started. More often than not filling my drive with crap as I'm checking what's going on.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 01:17:27 pm
content: Windows has become a service that you don't directly pay for, it's a well known fact. Funnily enough, Dave Plummer talks about it in one of his last videos.If you really can't switch to another OS, you may consider installing Windows LTSC.

author: Peabody
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 01:56:52 pm
content: There's a setting for that in Settings/Personalization/Start.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 02:12:42 pm
content: I imagine that could be some task under Task Scheduler, task scheduler library.A friend of mine was being harassed, after every major update he has to set his privacy settings again, then it asked him whether he wants to pay for Onedrive, and whether he wants to try Office 365 which he doesn't use and the last thing was the CO pilot stuff and interference to his audio programs which is all he uses it for.So I installed a modified copy of Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 1809 and they left him alone since last year and so far so good.

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 02:16:16 pm
content: install free hibit uninstaller, or the portable edition, and check in the sartup items panel

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 04:20:26 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on April 21, 2025, 06:13:00 amOut of the frying pan into the fire.

author: woofy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 06:06:58 pm
content: Windows getting in my way was my major reason for switching to Linux. I really did get fed up with it insisting on updates at the most inconvenient of times.Microsoft is a for profit company and I understand their need to upsell services to fund what is now effectively a free OS, but they don't own my computer and I won't have them dictate when I can or can't use it..I still have Win10 for work but it is dual booted with Linux, and that's where I spend the bulk of my computer time.

author: MathWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2025, 06:19:03 pm
content: For a while, win10 on startup/login, used to show news and sports headlines or something, and it used to take way longer to boot up. After searching around I found a way to block that. I think there was a win10 setting for that. But yeah I won't blocking the MS traffic anytime soon. I have uninstalled or disabled some stuff tho.But yeah, this is probably harder to block, I'm not sure what to search for it as either, without getting useless results.I find Linux interesting, but still too much work for my day to day computer. But as I get deeper into programming, it's getting easier.

author: Infraviolet
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 23, 2025, 12:07:04 am
content: Linux is definitely the answer long term, but unfortunately this really doesn't help MathWizard's problem at this instant. I've been using Linux long enough I've somewhat forgotten how to fix Windows problems, hopefully someone else can find a solution* which can get this awful microsoft nagging out of his way until such time as he's got atleast several days of free time to actually tackle the task of migrating to Linux.*Is it possible with Win 10 to block updates by modifying system files so the updater can't run? or does this just break the whole system? Like can one temporarily take full admin permissions and folder ownership in whichever part of system32 or whichever other folder on the C:\ drive it is, so as to rename the exe files which run the updater and then lock them away in a zip file (don't actually delete them incase you need to undo). In theory when the operating system tried to start the updater after that it would find no correctly named exe file in the folder where it needed it (having zipped rather than just renamed them would ensure it wouldn't even be able to find something like "an exe file in this folder with the correct sha256 checksum so as to know that it is infact the updater exe file it wishes to run" ), so maybe nothing would happen, on the other hand would Win 10 decide to do something bad if it couldn't run these files (as if it were assuming that the loss of those files meant it had been interfered with by malware or something, and then it would take drastic actions to shut itself down quickly)? Could this technique perhaps work to block specifcally whichever program is run to cause the nag popup- regardless of whether using the same technique to prevent automatic update installation at the same time?

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 23, 2025, 12:12:50 am
content: I assume I'm never getting this Win11 stuff in my Win10 because my bios doesn't TPM 2.0 / Secure BootPerhaps if you can turn that off in your bios it might stop bother you. Though perhaps it's too late, an it knows you can support it already.

author: KE5FX
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 23, 2025, 12:43:57 am
content: LTSC is the only way to fly.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 23, 2025, 03:51:30 am
content: To be fair, i use win11 at work and i have zero issues with 11 that bother me enough to care about staying on 10.My i5-7600K is fine for pretty much everything I do. So no real need to upgrade the MB to support TPM 2.0 at the moment.However, having a ultrawide monitor that does HDR10 and 240fps with a video card that supports neither is kind of sad.So an upgrade would be nice.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 23, 2025, 07:41:07 am
content: Quote from: fzabkar on April 21, 2025, 04:20:26 pmThat depends on your workflow. I spent years going through the pain of learning Linux and dealing with all the quirks (and I still came in with some knowledge). Eventually I switched to one of the new Macs with Apple silicon. Both were far less painful than dealing with what Microsoft Windows is today. It might be surprising for some to learn Apple Mac OS doesn't force things down your throat like Windows does. Don't want an Apple ID? No dramas, just skip it. Want to uninstall included bloat? Easy done.Mac OS is a very polished, distraction-free environment to work in. No annoying notifications, no forced reboots, no forced updates and no forced cloud accounts. Plus you have the benefits of a Unix-like terminal if you are a tinkerer. Also, I have to admit, the hardware is sexy as fuck. I use one of the older M2 laptops and the battery lasts forever. I don't really need to carry around a charger anymore; If I need to top up, any old USB-C charger will do, even a small phone charger does the job.EDIT: I want to be clear, I'm talking about Apple Mac OS that runs on laptops and desktops. I am not talking about Apple iOS which is for their mobile devices. That is still very locked down and difficult to customise. Apple iOS is still very much "their way or no way". Android remains a far better option if you need a mobile device to be a tool of the your trade.