Youtube viewers arguing: Post your most controversial electronic video - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: vk3yedotcom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2017, 11:12:16 pm
content: A fringe benefit of being a video creator is how occasionally you get viewers squabbling amongst themselves. Sometimes playing games of one-upmanship - eg "I've done this for 70 years", "I worked for NASA", "I'm a war veteran so am a better person", etc etc. As creator you get to read, with the ultimate power of deleting comments if it gets out of hand.Anyway I thought I'd ask other electronic YouTubers to post their most controversial video (or the non-controversial ones that somehow provoked vigorous exchanges).Here's my example. Admittedly I knew it could provoke since it discussed American-style survivalists and preppers. In this case the risk of inexperienced people having unrealistic expectations of the capabilities of novelty-type minimalist radio gear that's fun for a weekend play but completely inadequate for dependable communications. (And Dave you're not the only Aussie that gets comments on their voice - my monotone is not always liked).

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2017, 11:33:15 pm
content: QuoteI remember coming across your videos several years ago e.g.and noticed you had a very distinctive voice, with a "harsh edge" to it (not bad, but distinctive), but in the example video you linked, you sound completely different.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 02:58:50 am
content: It's not mine but I like this one:

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 03:03:46 am
content: Thread wouldn't be complete without Dave'sQuote

author: buck converter
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 03:20:57 am
content: this one made me angry. he can thank arduino for me being a subscriber and a hobbyist.

author: Muxr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 04:54:37 am
content: Quote from: buck converter on July 23, 2017, 03:20:57 amNot sure why, Dave gives Arduino a thumbs up in that video.

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 08:55:13 am
content: I wouldn't believe anything Youtube wankers claimed,unless they posted links to solid PROOF of their identity and resumeThey may have worked at N A S A as Latrine Engineersor 24/7 subcontractors for'Maccas Deployment On Demand'

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 09:31:55 am
content: Quote from: vk3yedotcom on July 22, 2017, 11:12:16 pmIt's one of the perks.Someone one might even throw in an occasional trolling statement too just for kicks, or so I've heard

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 04:12:55 pm
content: Quote from: Muxr on July 23, 2017, 04:54:37 amThe only group of people who I think that video would offend are the assembly diehards, who think assembly is the only way to go.

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 05:10:31 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on July 23, 2017, 04:12:55 pmBut...modding ROMs in assembly is fun!

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 05:32:15 pm
content: Quote from: Cyberdragon on July 23, 2017, 05:10:31 pmAssembly has its place and I even found it easier to learn than C because I was more familiar with it. It's good for understanding how the device works at a hardware level and is sometimes the best way to write code which is time critical.However I wouldn't advocate writing an entire professional project in assembly or make claims about it being quicker to write than a high level language. Assembly cod can be a pain in the bum to follow and is not portable, so if you change to a different architecture, you have to re-write everything.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 05:37:13 pm
content: QuoteI think Dave referred to all assembly programmers as archaic dickheads in one part of the video. Not very classy.Being able to read and write assembly language (and being able to recognise hex opcodes) is a useful skill if you want to reverse engineer something that uses a microcontroller. I can remember being mocked at work (by some of our best programmers) for wanting to learn 8086 assembly way back in the dark days of DOS. This was so I could defeat a PC program that used encryption and some external hardware to protect parts of its code. Within a year or so these same programmers were coming to ME cap in hand asking for help for similar tasks because they couldn't cope with trying to reverse engineer or decrypt other people's code when disassembled.Since then I've used my assembly language skills to reverse engineer numerous car ECU programs and defeat a lot of encryption/protection systems. Of course this doesn't mean assembly language programmers are better, and it obviously doesn't mean we should all program in assembly, but I do think people who can program in assembly language (or at hex code level!) deserve more respect than was shown in the video.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 05:54:17 pm
content: Quote from: G0HZU on July 23, 2017, 05:37:13 pmAt which point in the video did he say that? It might have been your interpretation but I don't think he said whose words.I don't think he ever said, all assembly programmers are dickheads, just the zealots who bash everything else.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 06:03:15 pm
content: I am a dick head for sure. The transient generator that I now use to benchmark the multimeters was written entirely in assembler. Squeezing those last few bytes out of the Motorola's 6801 2K ROM. There is a separate DAC, ADC, watchdog, EEPROM and 22V10. To add further insult, it was constructed using wire-wrap, doubling down on my dickness. It was fun playing with old 80's technology but it could have been one microcontroller and C.My channels following is quite small. Mostly I get the same repeating comments about how I am exceeding what the meters are rated, not reading the manuals, blowing up perfectly good meters. Latest special post was about me applying DC to them. Sometimes, I will check the poster's channel and more often than not, they will have links to children's video games. It makes sense.PIC1 showing thumbs down for the last 90 days. It should not come as a surprised that the video I made of Dave's 121GW has the most down votes. It has the most votes in general and is a fairly recent video. I am surprised it beat out my using WD-40 in a handheld meter.PIC2 shows the breakdown of down votes for the 121GW video. You would expect the USA with the highest total votes would also have the highest down votes but instead, it's 1 out of 76. Just not a large enough sample to draw any sort of general conclusion really.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 06:04:57 pm
content: QuoteTry listening at 13:50 onwards. Just after his bizarre analogy involving kids' movies. He says assembler is for archaic dickheads. Seems clear enough to me

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 06:15:08 pm
content: Quote from: G0HZU on July 23, 2017, 06:04:57 pmYou took it out of context. If you listen on, he then explains that assembly does have it's uses, just that writing everting in it is pointless.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 06:31:04 pm
content: Quote

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 06:40:19 pm
content: Quote from: G0HZU on July 23, 2017, 06:31:04 pmI'm glad you found it amusing. Perhaps I should consider a career change.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 07:46:48 pm
content: QuoteGood point. Maybe you and Dave could become consultants for Microchip/Atmel? Presumably your new version of AVR Studio would have "Mad Assembler Dickheads Click Here" instead of "Start a new asm project"

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2017, 01:00:35 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on July 24, 2017, 11:00:58 amThat's true and is probably why I missed it in the first place. Many people just hear something which offends them, then stop listening, so they end up taking it out of context and whining about it.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2017, 10:04:53 pm
content: QuoteLook, I (just) made a valid comment that Dave wasn't very classy in this video...QuoteYou then said (wrongly) that the above comment by Dave didn't exist. So I showed you where it was. The rest was just you trying to justify the comment and explaining why you hadn't spotted it (and me laughing at you).

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2017, 04:00:22 am
content: Guys, shut up and mod some old game ROMS in assembly.You will be converted.Activate spiral spinning wheels.