GIVEAWAY: Rohde & Schwarz RTB2004 Oscilloscope DISCUSSION - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 12:56:57 am
content: This is the place to discuss the giveaway

author: @rt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 01:44:47 am
content: I'll get started on a video which will likely end up an example of how not to win a scope.

author: Rayvk4tdx
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 02:14:01 am
content: video uploaded. jees I'm bad at videos and speeches. great idea crew. maybe one day do a full lab giveaway of working secondhand budget gear.

author: Stonecold
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 03:28:49 am
content: I usually never win these but I will trySent from my iPad using Tapatalk

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 06:11:11 am
content: You're not setting a minimum post / quality posts limit this time? Not entering, just asking in case you forgot.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 06:27:46 am
content: Nice idea for the giveaway! having tojustifya new scope ishaaaaardI'll try to partecipate

author: Tsippaduida
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 09:58:01 am
content: This is a nice giveaway. Too late for me, might be bit hard to justify why i need another. Had this been bit earlier I might have tried, but got myself a Siglent which fills my needs nicely for the moment. For those of you without an oscilloscope: go for it!

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 11:49:49 am
content: How are you choosing the winner? Is it the best video or you just pick a random video?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 12:15:28 pm
content: Quote from: ivan747 on June 30, 2017, 11:49:49 am

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 01:34:04 pm
content: This is great (as is that dumpster), and choosing the winner that way is better than full randomness, in my opinion.If I don't win (which is probable) I would like to apply for a position as dumpster cleaner. That dumpster, of course.

author: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 01:35:37 pm
content: This is awesome - good luck to all who enter!-Rich

author: Deridex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 01:42:35 pm
content: This scope is way to much for my personal use.But i wish the best luck to all who enter.

author: PauloConstantino
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 02:32:51 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 30, 2017, 12:15:28 pmHahahah! That's just too good!

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 03:47:33 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 30, 2017, 12:47:46 am4th guy posted a 3:21 long videoBut wait, there's more! The 12th guy posted a 4:07 video.In your face R&S!Later edit:So far, the winner is a guy from the second page, with a 11:56 video.

author: igendel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 05:07:53 pm
content: I have calculated that the time it will take me to clean up my "lab" for a presentable video, times the minimum per-hour wage, would cost me more than simply buying a new scope

author: veepedaldude
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 07:41:05 pm
content: Mine was 3. HA!

author: veepedaldude
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 07:42:42 pm
content: That was fun I've been wanting to make a vid of my lab. Didn't follow the rules tho. Opps.

author: AndreiS
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 08:48:15 pm
content: Good day!Question about restrictions: user from which countries can participate in this giveaway? Do people from Russia have a chance to win and to receive the scope?Thanks!

author: slurry
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 09:14:50 pm
content: I choose not to participate as i guess i can afford the scope if i just save up a while,Someone that are not fortunate to have a fair salary or lives in a country where this kind of oscillsoscope is unreacheable would, in my opinion, be the best winner of the scope

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 09:25:02 pm
content: Quote from: slurry on June 30, 2017, 09:14:50 pm£3,785.00. IMHO That is a HUGE sum of money, especially for a non-professional!

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2017, 10:30:22 pm
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on June 30, 2017, 09:25:02 pmYep, big money, indeed! Especially when you have to pay the taxes for it.Let's see, for EU this will be 19% VAT + 16% income taxes + some small import fee like 5%. Not sure about the 5% import fee, so let's just ignore it.That would be about $1750 USD out of the winner's pocket, so better start saving anyway!

author: PauloConstantino
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 12:19:13 am
content: I think what's funniest so far is the number of people who's number of posts in the forum is 1.Or wait, the number of people who have a commercial lab, but don't care to have a scope higher than 10Mhz.Or wait, the number of people who can't even use a 10MHz scope yet but wants this one really badly.Oh wait! There's also some people who have broken scopes, that is, who can't take care of a 10Mhz scope, but want this one real bad!!And some people who think that showing that they have no scope will give them a better chance. That's the funniest! Someone who doesn't have a scope clearly isn't serious about electronics, so why would Dave give them a professional scope anyway.I think Dave is either crying in embarrassment, or cracking himself up in laugher at these videos.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 12:54:04 am
content: Quote from: AndreiS on June 30, 2017, 08:48:15 pmYes, I don't care what country you are from. But you will be responsible for any import fees etc.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 01:06:48 am
content: Quote from: PauloConstantino on July 01, 2017, 12:19:13 amPeople with very few posts are a win for both EEVblog and the community, because the giveaway want to attract new users to the community, which is good for everybody. Many of the newcomers will stick to the EEvblog, which will be a win-win for all.And yes, the fact that some people didn't carefully read the instructions is funny, but also expected with all the win rush of such a great tool. No reason for embarrassment, it's just fun. All these prove that the giveaway is already a success.Looking forward for new video entries, good luck!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 02:06:50 am
content: I had to delete one entry. Not only was it 30 minutes long, it was mostly about terrorism and political stuff in their country

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 02:12:28 am
content: Anyone talk about water heaters?

author: Sceadwian
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 04:10:47 am
content: I'm pretty sure Dave can sort the wheat from the chaff on this one. The number of videos is starting to pile up, almost looks like it might not be a bad idea to pick a top 3 group to make a follow up video to make their case a little better. Community voting perhaps? Feed us to the wolves! :>

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 04:27:56 am
content: Quote from: Sceadwian on July 01, 2017, 04:10:47 amMore than I thought actually.People usually don't bother going to the effort.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 06:33:29 am
content: There is some moron going onto EVERY video abusing the people that posted them... Earthling 1x9Dave I suggest that if they are a member on here, that maybe they shouldn't be...

author: @rt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 06:44:26 am
content: It’s just a new YouTube account no subs, no content, probably for the specific purpose.Probably has an entryUntil they read this, or other’s delete his comments, there’s probably one video without a comment from him

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 07:26:06 am
content: Quote from: @rt on July 01, 2017, 06:44:26 amI already deleted their comment and blocked them from my channel.

author: zackattack303
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 07:46:08 am
content: Yes! Who has time for this? I know we can turn off comments and what-not, the troll knows that as well, it's just weird.

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 07:51:25 am
content: Quote from: RoGeorge on June 30, 2017, 10:30:22 pmHuh, that's a nice billt o pay for something that is offered to you.

author: BBBbbb
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 08:23:48 am
content: Quote from: Falkra on July 01, 2017, 07:51:25 amIt's not a new scope, so I think you wont be paying that amount, and if it is a personal shipment (Dave to you) you'll be paying only VAT (plus clearance fee to your importer). Ask around and coordinate with Dave and you shouldn't pay more than several hundred euros, if you end up paying.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 08:59:42 am
content: The law may vary from country to country, but I think it doesn't matter if it's new or used. The scope is not a purchase, it is an income, and for any kind of income, one must pay taxes. Of course, being a used scope it can be evaluated much lower than its catalog price, but it can not have zero value, unless we play in the grey area.In some places, this is even worst. This kind of win will be considered a lottery type income. For a lottery win, the tax is even higher, usually somewhere between 25%-40% instead of the 16% used in that best case scenario calculation. Anyway, the taxes vary widely across the world, and I'm not a bookkeeper, so I might be totally wrong.Before taxes, one need to win in the first place, so good luck to everyone!

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 08:59:52 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2017, 12:54:04 amBut of course as it's a used unit, out of a dumpster, the declared value would be a lot lower than the price of new unit

author: BU508A
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 09:28:12 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on July 01, 2017, 02:12:28 amThey can only be made / developed with the help of 100k+ Keysight scopes.And yes: what happened to the revolutionary water heater?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 09:38:01 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on July 01, 2017, 06:33:29 amIF anyone can find out who it is then I'll certainly disqualify them.

author: PauloConstantino
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 10:05:58 am
content: Quote from: BBBbbb on July 01, 2017, 08:23:48 amBut what if Dave puts the value down as very low? He doesn't have to tell its real value. It could be a broken piece of equipment. It could be a cheap piece of equipment. Dave just needs to write its value down as low...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 10:09:38 am
content: Quote from: PauloConstantino on July 01, 2017, 10:05:58 amSome countries don't care about that, they see it's effectively new and will base it on the retail price.

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 10:19:20 am
content: It seems this contest is appealing to new members. At least for now.Code:Posts: 2Posts: 2Posts: 1Posts: 5Posts: 5Posts: 1Posts: 2Posts: 1Posts: 2Posts: 447Posts: 1Posts: 2Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 8Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 102Posts: 12Posts: 1Posts: 11Posts: 182Posts: 112Posts: 1Posts: 2Posts: 1Posts: 7Posts: 1Posts: 4Posts: 1Posts: 3Posts: 3Posts: 2Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 27Posts: 621Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 5Posts: 3Posts: 3Posts: 3Posts: 1Posts: 1Posts: 7Posts: 2Alexander.

author: aldolo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 10:23:43 am
content: my doughter told me that this is the biggest bunch of woman repellent videos she had ever seen

author: Rayvk4tdx
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 10:29:19 am
content: I've left their comment, let the troll starve.I thought it was about time I joined in on the forum and this was a good push.

author: PauloConstantino
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 10:32:55 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2017, 10:09:38 amOh well. I think it's very sad that we have big brothers watching out for everything we do and RECEIVE. They want a piece of your life, your money and everything. We are basically still slaves to this system.. Sad to see how things are. I wish people were truly free.

author: PauloConstantino
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 10:41:16 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 01, 2017, 10:09:38 amMaybe you should giveaway something cheaper Dave................ People can't afford receiving expensive gifts nowadays..............

author: supernovah
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 10:53:02 am
content: ...

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 11:49:39 am
content: All in all it's good for people to sign up, hopefully you'll become an ACTIVE part of the community

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 12:35:19 pm
content: ANyway, I removed my entry (for fear of taxes).

author: PINKBOY1006
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 12:53:31 pm
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on July 01, 2017, 06:33:29 amThe comment he gave me.However it looks like his account is gone now.

author: Sceadwian
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 02:59:42 pm
content: Yours was dug out of a garbage can though (as long as that's not just a backstory) So I don't see how anyone could rationally call that new. Then again this is the government we're talking about.

author: Sceadwian
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 03:01:43 pm
content: Too bad my posts from other forums don't transfer over or I'd probably break the post counter.Quote from: firewalker on July 01, 2017, 10:19:20 am

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 09:31:58 pm
content: Quote from: Falkra on July 01, 2017, 12:35:19 pmIMHO it would help if Dave took it slightly apart. That way it can be shipped as 'for parts' with no value. OTOH some assembly will be required for the winner.

author: BBBbbb
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 11:20:40 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on July 01, 2017, 09:31:58 pmAnd put a nasty scratch on the plastic bezel

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2017, 11:35:02 pm
content: Quote from: BBBbbb on July 01, 2017, 11:20:40 pmhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/d/npd/10pcs-Fake-Scratch-Sticker-Party-Favour-Prank/B00BLGLA1K

author: PauloConstantino
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2017, 12:48:17 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on July 01, 2017, 09:31:58 pmWould you take it apart for shipping Dave? After all, don't turn it on, take apaaaaaaaaaaart mate.

author: TheSteve
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2017, 03:27:54 am
content: I'd make a video but it would just be about wanting to hack it, there is probably someone out there that has a better/real use for it.

author: aldolo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2017, 04:37:40 am
content: It seem al contents are on yt. Is there a way to collect them together?

author: calebreister
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 02, 2017, 05:24:51 am
content: Dav(e|id),I have a few questions...Can you give some more info on the logistics of this giveaway?Will the winner be announced publicly?How will the winner be notified?Caleb

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2017, 03:54:32 pm
content: Nice to see some quality submissions... I really like...https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/giveaway-rohde-schwarz-rtb2004-oscilloscope/msg1246945/#msg1246945it's a shame the ink had run out otherwise the waveform print would have been awesome. The way the amplitude changes in realtime is great.I'm hoping the uBeam and Solar Roadways entries will come in at some point.

author: 16bitSprite
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 02, 2017, 10:21:52 pm
content: Quote from: aldolo on July 01, 2017, 10:23:43 amHa ha. I'll wear that.Your daughter is funny.

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2017, 08:22:26 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 01, 2017, 11:35:02 pmThanks mikeselectricstuff,but..." This seller does not deliver to Australia. Learn more "

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 03, 2017, 10:45:05 am
content: Quote from: calebreister on July 02, 2017, 05:24:51 amYes, public. I will contact you, I have everyones email.You send me your snail mail address and I will DHL courier the used scope at my expense.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2017, 07:52:40 pm
content: I think I disqualified myself by declaring my interest in Steves Hack the 1Ghz 3000 Series..

author: cyberfuzzy
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2017, 10:12:41 pm
content: Oh yeah, the video with the potato is my favorite until now :-)I also produced a video today. It's uploading to YouTube now. Want to join the giveaway as well

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2017, 01:09:08 am
content: Quote from: PauloConstantino on July 01, 2017, 12:19:13 amI noticed this also. How did they find this? I wonder if they search everyday on "giveaway"?

author: aargee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2017, 01:52:50 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 01, 2017, 11:35:02 pmThanks for posting that Mike, as if I wasn't nasty enough as prankster...

author: gatecrasher53
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 04, 2017, 06:25:54 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on July 04, 2017, 01:09:08 amTruly where did ALL these people come from???Youtube:Forum:Ever thought maybe Dave WANTS more newbies on his forum?

author: aldolo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2017, 03:55:57 am
content: The strange of most submissions is that they show some other scope in use.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 05, 2017, 05:10:25 am
content: Quote from: aldolo on July 05, 2017, 03:55:57 amNothing inherently wrong with having another scope. The main point it show that you can make good use of a higher end scope.

author: Yansi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2017, 11:17:10 am
content: Quote from: Falkra on July 01, 2017, 12:35:19 pmSad as it is, I can not participate due to same reason. Would need to pay about 40% of its price here. If I could afford that, I could probably buy a whole new unit.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2017, 02:15:58 pm
content: Truncated and uploaded my video again as I found it was 02:01, now should be <=02:00

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 02:04:26 am
content: Good luck to the winnerFWIW, ask Dave if he'd consider to sign/autograph it,it may be worth big dollars in 20 years time as an"Authentic ex-EEVblog vintage DSO"Anything is possible on Ebay

author: bjcuizon
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 04:35:39 am
content: Would NZ customs still charge a great tax/GST/import fee even if Australia is its neighboring/sister country?

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 04:41:46 am
content: Quote from: bjcuizon on July 07, 2017, 04:35:39 amOf course they would, they don't miss a chance to dig into your pockets, its not just the GST, it all the extra "fees" they add on too ! often ends up being as much as the GST component!

author: bjcuizon
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 04:59:06 am
content: Quote from: bjcuizon on July 07, 2017, 04:35:39 amWell alright then, I wont bother to join the competition because I don't have that much money to pay to NZ customs as I'm still a hobbyist (soon to be an EE).

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 08:12:16 am
content: Quote from: bjcuizon on July 07, 2017, 04:59:06 amTell them it's a gift, or a repair, or any BS they deserveAn import fee for something FREE? what would they charge ? $00.00 + GST?The sender can declare it's worth ZERO or parts salvage, stuff not available in NZI would call NZ customs and ask about it and see what they can do,and get their name and position, and some sort of written or recorded proof,in case some clipboard wielding hero changes their mind on the day.

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 08:38:16 am
content: Dave: remove the fuse (or even better: replace it by a broken one), take out the the power cable and declare it as a non working unit with a value of $100.So even if there is an inspection at customs the unit will not power up, thus they will not be able to discuss the value.To make it even more believable, send manuals and probes with a separate small package a few days later and declare as $50 (so it will usually slip through customs).

author: Falkra
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 02:27:44 pm
content: This would be cool. And this way the winner wouldn't turn it on before... taking it apart a little bit.

author: Fred27
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 03:11:01 pm
content: It's amazing that Dave is giving this away. You can't expect him to break the law for your benefit too.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 06:06:02 pm
content: Quote from: Fred27 on July 07, 2017, 03:11:01 pmI agree.I believe Dave will help out as much as is reasonable - but don't expect him to do anything dodgy or spend hours chasing around for a one-off benefit. I cannot see him doing anything that might attract negative attention, especially with exporting and importing. He has a business that does not need more hassles than is due.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 09:54:10 pm
content: I posted my entry video too :-)Did some one catch that some videos allrady offline?https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/giveaway-rohde-schwarz-rtb2004-oscilloscope/msg1245140/#msg1245140I hope this will not end in a spam war... I don't want my YouTube channel blocked

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 10:27:53 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on July 07, 2017, 06:06:02 pmFrom that angle I agreeIt still sux that the winner has not purchased anythingnor bringing something into NZ that impacts jobs, industry or the economy had they bought a locally made equivalent,a tech product which isn't made there anywayIt's a prize or a gift, why should customs break a citizen's balls about it and demand a cut?

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2017, 10:39:27 pm
content: Quote from: Electro Detective on July 07, 2017, 10:27:53 pmJust because it's so easy to divert and really hard to prove. Every one will just say it's a gift .... If everyone would be honest the world would be much easier but also boring

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2017, 12:02:14 am
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 07, 2017, 10:39:27 pmI've seen and experienced it, and I vote forhonest and boring..no more sore neck watching your back for human parasites and scum

author: aldolo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 09, 2017, 06:56:58 pm
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 07, 2017, 09:54:10 pmVideo NOT visible in Italy

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 12, 2017, 05:44:36 pm
content: I could really use a scope like this right now ... but I don't think I would stand a chance.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 07:24:30 am
content: Over 100 entries

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 08:25:52 am
content: Everyone needs to stop entering... my chances are getting slimmer each day lol.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 08:52:46 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on July 13, 2017, 08:25:52 amYes I agree there are too many ... I watched everyone!Everyone I would give the scope to I left a "thanked" to let them now ;-)There are a lot of very good videos and also a lot of good reasons .... This will be very hard for Dave and David to decide.Good luck to everyone

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 09:22:48 am
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 13, 2017, 08:52:46 amWe were discussing it and I think it will likely come down to who can get the most use of an advanced scope like this. i.e. a project or some other thing that can really make use of an advanced 10bit 300MHz mixed signal scope.But it's also about "the vibe".

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 09:29:09 am
content: When is the closing date/time/TZ? I was thinking about adding some photos into my video. Thanks"Entries close 15th July 2017."I'm going to assume that is *no earlier* than 15th July 23:59:59 Sydney time.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 10:05:33 am
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on July 13, 2017, 09:29:09 amThat would be my interpretation as well.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 10:44:34 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 13, 2017, 09:22:48 amWill you take the text in the post also into account?2 minutes is really sort to talk about alle the usecases, especially like my video.

author: Prime
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2017, 10:42:12 pm
content: Quote from: PauloConstantino on July 01, 2017, 12:19:13 amJust because someone doesn't have a scope at home, doesn't mean they don't know how to use it. I had a 1gHz Agilent almost permanently on my office desk in my previous job. A reasonable scope is a fair wack of money in many countries. I always had access to scopes through my previous job which I was allowed to borrow when not in use. Unfortunately working for a start-up now, I no longer have that luxury.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 12:22:05 am
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 13, 2017, 10:44:34 amThat's part of the challenge.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 08:45:41 am
content: Loads of good entries!Perhaps R&S (I know you are listening) could be encouraged to dump some extra in the dumpster or upgrade Dave with something new so he can dump the R&S1202 which is also a nice scope, albeit it 2CH.

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 09:32:15 am
content: Hey Dave,Your attempt to attract newbies over to the forum worked swimmingly in my case. One question, I saw this a bit later and will only finish the video today after work which is July 14th in Dallas, TX but is the cutoff your Australian time because then it will be the 15th?Mezz

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 09:55:48 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on July 13, 2017, 10:05:33 amI'm just going to hope that this correct!

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 10:13:05 am
content: Quote from: Mezzer266 on July 14, 2017, 09:32:15 amThat's why I said/edited *no earlier* in my previous comment. I suspect Dave wants the best entries possible and isn't aiming to be too pedantic so I imagine that if you are currently onhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Islandthen 23:59:59 local time on July 14th would be acceptable.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 10:47:20 am
content: Quote from: Mezzer266 on July 14, 2017, 09:32:15 amI'm a lazy arse, so will likely lock the thread on Monday, if I remember

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 10:55:55 am
content: I wanted to partecipate, but in the end i won't.Mixed reasons:- Fear of the massive import duties on these kind of gifts (but i'm keeping an eye out for mike's giveaway, if he'll be able to do it before brexit, as he said he's not sure he will)- Actual need of midrange scope didn't balance out the Fear of the massive tax so it's right that others can get itbut the most important:- I had THE idea for the video with lots ofvibe, but couldn't possibly fit it in 2 minutes (5, i could). So i was conjuring something up, but i didn't have the time to finish it in these two weeks and it wouldn't be as goodgood luck to the partecipants

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 01:21:38 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 14, 2017, 12:22:05 amGot it!I updated my entry videohttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/giveaway-rohde-schwarz-rtb2004-oscilloscope/msg1251074/#msg1251074

author: Florian Dassler
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 14, 2017, 08:25:43 pm
content: Dave just unplug the psu from the scope and send it as a broken one for part salvage as an gift.Then the winner could show that it is broken to the customs authorities, get it nearly tax-free.And plugging it back in shouln't be that difficuld.-Florian

author: BurnedResistor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 06:20:40 am
content: Asking out of pure curiosity:I was looking through the other replies (Snoopin' out the competition), and noticed two replies which feature breadboard computers with very similar designs:Quote from: linhartr22 on June 30, 2017, 04:44:59 amQuote from: ChriSake on July 12, 2017, 07:02:40 pmAre these based of something I am not aware off? It just seems rather unlikely for two to have such a similar layout? (Same yellow bus, similar chip configuration, similar breadboard layout etc...)I only noticed because I was working on a project in a similar vein, so it spiked my interest.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 06:54:24 am
content: Hehe, maybe they are both implementing the same design.That's funny, but not the worst. I saw a few videos were the lab looks fake: Some random equipment sitting on a table or shelves, like someone just borrowed stuff from their office or school lab in order to shoot a 2 minutes video. In that kind of videos, there is no evidence of someone actually working or ever worked with those tools.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 07:14:20 am
content: Quote from: RoGeorge on July 15, 2017, 06:54:24 amYes I noticed what looked like some fake entries, not my place to say something though, as I'm entered.

author: BurnedResistor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 07:34:18 am
content: Quote from: tmdr on June 30, 2017, 05:38:52 pmQuote from: RoGeorge on July 15, 2017, 06:54:24 amQuote from: TheDefpom on July 15, 2017, 07:14:20 amAnother one!I really don't want to come off like I am making down the competition: If there is a design these are based off I really would want to see it!

author: BurnedResistor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 07:57:29 am
content: On a different Note:137 replies as of now, which would make 137*2 = 274 mins or 4h 34minHowever, I count 28 non entries (Vid offline, only text, length more than 2:10) so 218 submissions.That still leaves 218 min of video: 3h 38minI am very suprised by the turnout!

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 08:06:16 am
content: Yeah I think Dave needs to close it off... in fact he should close it off just after my entry a week ago 😂

author: BurnedResistor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 08:14:25 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on July 15, 2017, 08:06:16 amWell it is 6 at night in australia, and he said he would close it monday, so presuming he does so in the morning it will be open for another 12-odd hours!

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 08:32:29 am
content: 36 hours, it's Saturday

author: BurnedResistor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 09:04:36 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on July 15, 2017, 08:32:29 amDerp. You are right. Sorry!

author: Deridex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 03:03:28 pm
content: A bit Offtopic:Anyone knows what happened to the Keysight scope Dave planned to give away? Think i missed that

author: linhartr22
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 03:53:22 pm
content: I also got dinged, twice. Easy enough to remove the comments, that no one else saw, on the private video.

author: linhartr22
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 03:58:46 pm
content: Burn the serial number into it with a soldering iron..

author: Kieranod
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 04:36:55 pm
content: I agree with you totally.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 05:12:15 pm
content: I have a hard time waiting for the result ....So what better to do then statistics ... (its not like I have something else to do like my master thesis)A word cloud of all the text of all entries:Posts per day:Number of Posts a user has made:Nummer of Users wich made as many posts:Some ideas for other statistics?

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 05:28:45 pm
content: Nice stats, thanks!

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 05:39:19 pm
content: One more:

author: BurnedResistor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 06:10:54 pm
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 15, 2017, 05:12:15 pmThe 2nd graph makes me think there are 2 camps:"I uploaded as soon as I could""Oh crap officially the deadline is tomorrow/now/yesterday I need to upload NOW" (<- Im in that one!)

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 08:10:50 pm
content: I should go to sleep....

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 08:20:54 pm
content: Statistics are always interesting (as long as the correct data is being collected), interesting information being captured here.

author: BurnedResistor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 08:36:59 pm
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 15, 2017, 05:12:15 pmWould it be faire to interpret that second grapoh as saying that there is little point to make a contest longer? People will just submit in the beginning and end anyhow!

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 08:52:54 pm
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on July 15, 2017, 08:20:54 pmindeedi found 1 problem in calculating the bar graph ... some entries got loshier is the link to the source code: (maybe someone can look over it!)https://github.com/pknoe3lh/eevblogforumstatisticsI generated the new plots and i hope there are correct this time

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2017, 10:10:52 pm
content: Hey Everyone,Not sure if anyone cares, but if you watched my video you may have seen two texts on my tool box. Not sure how clear they were in the video but I forgot to post the links. I figured I'd just go ahead and post them here in case anyone is interested in picking up a copy! I got them used for fun and they helped me out tremendously, great reads too. The Karp text is a bit dense, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!I provided links to the publishers but I know that PDF variants may exist out there in the wildEthernet the Definitive Guide: Designing and Managing Local Area Networks - Spurgeonhttp://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781565926608.doFundamentals of Electro-Optic Systems Design - Karphttp://www.cambridge.org/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9781107021396-Mezz

author: gatecrasher53
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 16, 2017, 05:55:46 am
content: Quote from: BurnedResistor on July 15, 2017, 08:36:59 pmPotentially but there's no measure as to the quality of the videos. I think if the window was shorter you'd get a lot more off the cuff videos (Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's what I did lol).

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 16, 2017, 08:50:56 am
content: More more moreNumber of posts: 149Number of posts with vimeo videos: 2 {for this it will count as post without video}Number of videos offline: 5Users with more then 1 post: 5 {012345678910}Posts with no video: 7 {0123456}Posts with more then one video: 5 {01234}Posts with more then 1000 characters: 18 {01234567891011121314151617}Posts changed: 53 {012345678910111213141516171819202122232425262728293031323334353637383940414243444546474849505152}Posts thanked by at least on user: 26 {012345678910111213141516171819202122232425}

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 17, 2017, 12:36:49 am
content: Thread is now locked!150 entries. This will need almost a full day of watching entry videos

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 17, 2017, 09:21:51 am
content: Final statistics:Number of posts: 150Number of posts with vimeo videos: 2 {for this it will count as post without video}Number of videos offline: 5Users with more then 1 post: 5 {012345678910}Posts with no video: 7 {0123456}Posts with more then one video: 5 {01234}Posts with more then 1000 characters: 18 {01234567891011121314151617}Posts changed: 54 {01234567891011121314151617181920212223242526272829303132333435363738394041424344454647484950515253}Posts thanked by at least on user: 27 {01234567891011121314151617181920212223242526}source

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 17, 2017, 09:38:33 am
content: So, who's the winner?PICK ME, PICK ME!I have the best lab and the best reasons to win, but I didn't posted a video!P.S.My lab is ultra secret, so if I'd show it...

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 17, 2017, 02:41:01 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 14, 2017, 12:22:05 amI tried to make a video on my project in under 4 minutes some months ago, it just wasn't possible.So I know it's just impossible for me. Hell I cannot even fit all the stuff into one room, much less one take, so would have to buy video editing software too.Even though this scope is on my must have list, I'm just too depressed to enter yet another contest I won't win for some daft reason.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 17, 2017, 03:09:30 pm
content: Quote from: station240 on July 17, 2017, 02:41:01 pmI think Dave will try to get a big picture anyway ... to bad you did not try

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 17, 2017, 05:36:44 pm
content: Quote from: station240 on July 17, 2017, 02:41:01 pmYeah, it's pretty tough if you've got something complex. I'm developing my own hardware and software with ARM processors, DSP, and PHYs, etc... I just had to do a high level overspimlifcation in the hopes I was getting the critical points captured.You can always try next time!-Mezz

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 17, 2017, 06:02:54 pm
content: Quote from: Mezzer266 on July 17, 2017, 05:36:44 pmOh yes I watched your video and i only got like 10% of what you are doingDo you design this stuff at home?In my master thesis i musst interface an MII so at least i know whats going on there

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2017, 12:33:51 am
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 17, 2017, 06:02:54 pmYeah! It seems pretty daunting but honestly the biggest barriers for me were initially was trying to use BGA package types and the cost of boards that come along with them. However I found out chips like the AM335, TI Sitara processor that the beagle bone uses, are actually offered in two packages: ZCZ and ZCE. The ZCE has a reduced IO set and fewer supply pins but the ball grid actually comes in a pattern that can be routed on four layers. I don't know what boards cost in your area but Advanced Circuits actually offers impedance controlled four layer boards for 66 US dollars for 30sq inches. This obciously has some restrictions like via type and no internal routes but still a great deal if you really think about your board and get the majority right the first time. I am very curious if I can have multiple pours for reference planes on one layer for different potentials, does that count as a route???Then BGA aren't too bad if you practice a lot on them. My recommendation is to actually buy like 20 voltage translators or something for about 50 cents each and then practice on those, you can etch your own two layer boards dirt cheap to practice on too. Super easy and cheap to build a circuit to test if the connections are good, TI actually makes several fine pitch BGA packages for these parts that are tiny!Yeah, and sorry the video was so fast, I hope it looked interesting enough to get the win! The DSPs I plan on using actually have MACs and switches built in that I hope to use. Then it can also do all the number MAC (operation) and send that off to the AM3358 that will control all the general operations and motors. I'll let you know how the media converter section works out too, just sent REV1 out to get turned, I got the one with no solder mask and it only cost like twenty bucks or something!Sorry for the book,-Mezz

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2017, 12:49:59 am
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 17, 2017, 06:02:54 pmOh forgot to mention that the soldering I have to borrow a hot air gun for. Those VQFN can be a pain just like BGA. I luckily have some really good techs at TI to help show me the ropes. Lol, wherever you work, always find the good techs and buy them lunch, they WILL save you at some point!What's your thesis on out of curiosity?-Mezz

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2017, 06:57:20 am
content: BGAs without soldermask sounds sickI cannot tell much. My institute has a cooperation with a company.But it's about automotive high bandwidth communication and the corresponding Protokolls (ab, ttethernet or tsn) for high quality of service.This can also be useful for you. It makes Ethernet deterministic ;-)

author: supernovah
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 18, 2017, 08:45:03 am
content: ...

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2017, 01:52:58 am
content: Quote from: supernovah on July 18, 2017, 08:45:03 amAny advice for successfully doing such fine pitch or any headaches with the sitara chipsets themselves? I haven't tried a full chip yet, just other smaller inexpensive ones for practice.-Mezz

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2017, 01:59:39 am
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 18, 2017, 06:57:20 amI'll have to look into this! Thanks for the info even if limited, sounds pretty interesting.-Mezz

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2017, 09:46:14 am
content: Come on Dave.. we are all here waiting to hear news... I'm on the edge of my seat and my arse is getting sore.

author: supernovah
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 19, 2017, 12:23:07 pm
content: ...

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2017, 04:30:34 pm
content: I hope i didn't get too far:http://rsgiveaway.knoebel.at/

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2017, 07:25:56 pm
content: I don't get it, what's that chart?

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2017, 07:53:59 pm
content: Quote from: RoGeorge on July 19, 2017, 07:25:56 pmVisitors ofhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/giveaway-rohde-schwarz-rtb2004-oscilloscope/

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 01:01:25 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on July 19, 2017, 09:46:14 amLol, I saw the video notification at 6AM when I woke up and just lept out of bed to see the new video. Had to go to work but at least we have a short tear down to hold us over.Quote from: supernovah on July 19, 2017, 12:23:07 pmHuh, are the included solder balls on the pad not sufficient? I've used MG Chemicals' flux to hold the chips in place and then go through with a hot air station.-Mezz

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 01:09:26 am
content: Hahahahahaha, I think he is using the RTB2004 to be given away in the probing at the end EEV 1008! Whoever gets will get a famous scope, pretty neat!-Mezz

author: ngjohnson
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 06:15:16 am
content: I have no problem paying shipping, and fee's as it will still save me a great deal of money instead of buying this identical scope! Also check out group gets! We are selling our Wave-One 1GHz IOT boards to anyone who might want to create a low power IOT sensor network. PS: I rented the big brother of this scope for a few months; can't afford the price; and love the touch screen and simple interface. I do find the lack of high end current probs with self calibration (Like Keysight) an issue down the road. At my last job, I often had to use over priced current probes ($10,000-120,000US) to handle the 1200A we pushed at times in our circuits. As of right now I think I'll avoid those high currents... plus uA and nA are the new thing.. companies advertising "Ultra" low power...

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 06:47:18 am
content: Quote from: jumar1988 on July 19, 2017, 09:04:15 pmNooooooYes I checked it's recognising your YouTube link as entry video ... So to say you are really a special case

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 06:59:37 am
content: I'm watching the videos now...David2 spent the whole day watching and has ranked accordingly.CATS!

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 07:41:57 am
content: I have been watching YouTube analytics for my video. Zero views from Oz so far. Saving the best for last?

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 07:47:08 am
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on July 20, 2017, 07:41:57 amMe tooYouTube stats are very unreliable ...

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 08:55:07 am
content: It's on:https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/887921607825514496

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 09:36:50 am
content: Oh well... My video isn't on the visible part of that tweet... hopefully further down.... I'll keep watching the Analytics!

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 09:41:54 am
content: You got a view from me

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 10:12:16 am
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on July 20, 2017, 09:36:50 amIts sorted alphabetical

author: Sceadwian
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 20, 2017, 10:49:42 pm
content: When you and David compare notes you should debate putting together an episode about your favorite bits or runners up mentions or just whatever commentary on the vids themselves you'd like. I wish I had the time to go through all of them (though I'd probably regret saying that in retrospect) but if you came up with a suggestion of top 5 folks you think deserve a mention or hit to their Youtube chan from a mention on your channel might be nice.It'd be fun just don't make too much fun of usQuote from: EEVblog on July 20, 2017, 06:59:37 am

author: edgaras006
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2017, 07:41:58 am
content: Dave is dog type, but anyway that is not related to engineering.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2017, 11:01:09 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 20, 2017, 06:59:37 amHow is your progress?Did you run out of chocolate allrady?Really looking forward to here some update

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2017, 11:12:30 am
content: Quote from: edgaras006 on July 21, 2017, 07:41:58 ambut is probably related tothe vibe

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2017, 11:26:49 am
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 21, 2017, 11:01:09 amStill zero views of my video from Oz....Patience you must have, my young EEVBlog-awan

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2017, 07:02:57 pm
content: I try to find out if Dave works on the Weekend:http://youtubepunchcard.im-pro.at/?channelid=UC2DjFE7Xf11URZqWBigcVOQI guess there is no weekend for a YouTube content provider

author: neris.io
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 21, 2017, 10:08:20 pm
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 21, 2017, 07:02:57 pmImagine, having to come up & having to provide new material every week(or every day as you tube wants you to..)

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 07:33:33 am
content: Found the slope againhttps://youtu.be/YdbhnmA4M9g?t=11m11s

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 02:36:16 pm
content: Hey, do we know if he is going to announce the winner publicly by video first? He could just be waiting on a response from someone before posting the winner publicly. I hope it's the former...-Mezz

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2017, 02:39:59 pm
content: Quote from: Mezzer266 on July 23, 2017, 02:36:16 pmEarly days yet. According to YouTube statistics my entry hasn't been watched from Oz yet by either Dave.

author: supernovah
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 24, 2017, 03:38:40 am
content: ...

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2017, 06:28:52 am
content: https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/889366944599728128

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2017, 06:53:01 am
content: Quote from: supernovah on July 24, 2017, 03:38:40 amHm.Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 24, 2017, 06:28:52 amThat looks more like it, looks like it is progressing (assuming recovery).

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2017, 06:10:12 pm
content: And the Best Comment Award goes to...

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2017, 11:26:03 pm
content: Hi All,I was watching the new eev blog #1010 and he mentioned "the vibe", made me curious about any updates about the project. Anyone hear anything?-Mezz

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2017, 07:26:42 am
content: Quote from: Mezzer266 on July 26, 2017, 11:26:03 pmNope

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2017, 08:29:32 am
content: Ok found something:http://theamphour.com/353-iot-degree/Dave is talking about 10 minutes about the contest

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2017, 11:26:39 pm
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 27, 2017, 08:29:32 amWell done sir, never really watched the AMP hour so I would never have come across it. Thanks for the post. I listened to the show too and it was a pretty good one I thought!-Mezz

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2017, 08:54:45 am
content: According to YouTube got my first view from down under today so looks like the judging continues fair dinkum.

author: neris.io
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 28, 2017, 05:42:50 pm
content: Just noticed today.... How did we all miss this one:https://www.element14.com/community/roadTests/1799/l/rohde-schwarz-rtb2k-com4-digital-oscilloscope?

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2017, 05:48:32 pm
content: Quote from: neris.io on July 28, 2017, 05:42:50 pm3 kits for 164 entries!it is 1 in 55 ... that is actually not so bad ...

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2017, 08:18:28 am
content: Good News everyone:https://youtu.be/NwRSErf_yVs?t=33m36sSoon done

author: jumar1988
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 05:40:11 am
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on July 29, 2017, 08:18:28 amsoon ?oh my godness

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 06:11:32 am
content: I guess Dave and David are still trying to agree who gets it out of the 5 or 6 they shortlisted...Maybe they should ask R&S for a few more scopes.

author: neris.io
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 01, 2017, 01:06:43 pm
content: If they still arguing I hope it is not turning into a fightSince they are microphonicand being thrown into dumpsters, it should't be too difficult getting more scopesWill we ever know the runners up?Is there a d-day? Running out of

author: Mezzer266
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 01:35:45 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on August 01, 2017, 06:11:32 amYes! They could even send them so Dave doesn't have to. Brilliant idea sir

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 01:36:45 am
content: You've gotta love a dreamer.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 01:39:08 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 02, 2017, 01:36:45 amThey could supply some lower end models for runners up... or those that wouldn't really use all the features of the high end model... I think its a good idea, but I'm biased.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 01:49:27 am
content: If that was an option, I would have entered.Having the nominated scope on my bench at the moment, would save me a lot of time with a current project - but I would generally not be using its full capabilities. A lesser model MSO would suit me and while I was sorely tempted, I did not enter in fairness to Dave and whoever could put it to good use.

author: jumar1988
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 01:54:41 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on August 01, 2017, 06:11:32 am

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 10:09:58 am
content: Changes of post counts over time:

author: alm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 11:20:21 am
content: So only a few people that have entered have continued to post on the forum since? So much for attracting new active members to the forum I guess.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 11:39:17 am
content: That's a fun graph. I managed to move one bucket to the right during the competition. I have approximately 4x as many posts as the total of 100 other entrants put together. (And yes I do appreciate post count is not a judging criterion.According to YouTube stats my video submission has been viewed once from Oz; In two sittings of 59 seconds each! (And I do accept YouTube stats are not sufficiently fine grained to make that definitive).For reasons that will be obvious from some of my other posts I won't be online much for a while soon.... so GOOD LUCK to all.

author: supernovah
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 12:53:17 pm
content: ...

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 12:59:10 pm
content: Quote from: supernovah on August 04, 2017, 12:53:17 pmYou mean like time spend on the forum?

author: supernovah
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 01:02:18 pm
content: ...

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 01:08:51 pm
content: Quote from: supernovah on August 04, 2017, 01:02:18 pmThis forum is taking track of all that. (on side load bases)If you don't load a side for 1 hour you are counted as not active.I think I could write a bot to retrieve that data.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=statistics;u=141729But what im doing now is just load one side like:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/giveaway-rohde-schwarz-rtb2004-oscilloscope/?allSo i would have to load 150 user Profiles .... I think Dave and my Website provider would not like that

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 01:51:37 pm
content: Just checked my YouTube stats... looks like it's been viewed twice now.Feel free to watch it again.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 02:11:35 pm
content: Quote from: alm on August 04, 2017, 11:20:21 amI got interested ... Here is a graph about new members over the last year.Actually we don't see anything interesting happening during the 29.6 to 15.7So the contest is going down the normal noise of new members ....Plus the ~100 real new members don't post much in the forum ....Im sorry to tell but this giveaway head nearly 0 impact on the forum ... I hope Dave is not going to leren from that conclusionDo I overlook something?

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 02:17:34 pm
content: What append on the 27.01.2017???Chart of 2016 and 2017:

author: alm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 02:21:33 pm
content: Do you have access to the number of deleted/banned accounts? I wonder how many of them are spambots that are blocked in short order.Based on the number of threads/posts posted per day, a 100 new members per day seems high to me. I wonder if 90% is bots drowning out the signal from real people.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 02:43:08 pm
content: Quote from: pknoe3lh on August 04, 2017, 02:11:35 pmOnly 150 people entered but that doesn't mean that the 32K or so views of the YT video didn't result in people becoming more aware of the forum and viewing as Guest or registering but not entering the competition itself.I also think it is possible that people created a new forum id specifically for the competition, I wish I had thought of that!

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 02:48:28 pm
content: Some other giveaways:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/giveaway-keysight-1000-x-series-oscilloscope/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/giveaway-altium-designer-17/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/giveaway-altium-circuitstudio-licenses/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/keysight-scope-giveaway-63957/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/eevblog-oct-2013-contest-giveaway/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/fluke-cnx3000-contest/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/win-a-fluke-87v-enter-now!/They look different, but its hard to compare because they are closed a longer time ago ...

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 02:51:00 pm
content: Were these promoted on YouTube? If not you are comparing Wallabies to Panadas.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2017, 02:53:00 pm
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on August 04, 2017, 02:51:00 pmGood point ....

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2017, 06:57:02 am
content: Who won?Can someone post the winning video here. I cannot load the video page because my internet connection is too slowSorry if I missed the winner.thanks

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2017, 07:10:40 am
content: Winner still hasn't been announced... it's been quiet.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 06, 2017, 08:23:01 am
content: There were a LOT of entries. Far more than anticipated, I believe. I can't imagine Dave doing a half-assed job of the judging - so it will take some time.Remember, he will still have other work that must be done - some of which will not be able to be put off.The announcement will come.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 07:22:57 am
content: Soonhttps://twitter.com/eevblog/status/894441096515801094

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 08:10:20 am
content: Based on the votes it isn't looking good for me... lowest vote count currently is for people that try to educate by video blogging... damnit.

author: BurnedResistor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 09:05:31 am
content: It's here

author: kulawy
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 09:23:40 am
content: Gratulations to Matt - enjoy your new toy

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 09:28:18 am
content: Would be nice to see the short list.. just to see who made the list (or rather to see if I made the list)Congratulations Matt, well done.

author: mainakae
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 09:35:45 am
content: Congrats Matt

author: aldolo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 09:53:29 am
content: I feel soooooo old after watching winner an runner up!!!!!

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 09:54:50 am
content: Worthy winner. Well done Matt.

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 10:12:19 am
content: Its overfinally I can sleep againCongratulations MattI think you can really use this scope to its fullest ;-)Quote from: TheDefpom on August 07, 2017, 09:28:18 amYes this would be nice ;-)I think it was close for me too at least I got stalked alot in the last hours:Most views I got from Australia sofar ;-)I'm also a a little bit (very) disappointed ... Dave you played against your own rolesQuote from: pknoe3lh on July 14, 2017, 01:21:38 pmI spent 10 hours to make my video ... and then again 2 hours to add more information and speed up parts (what actually made my video harder to watch)And now you told that his video was actually not the best and he only won because of his homepage ....I actually also planning to start a blog ... but my study has 100% priority right nowAnd as you see in my other videos I also do a lot with FPGAs and mixed signals ... just don't have the time and money to do that more and I'm actually not an electrical engineerAnd soon also not much more time done to my soon bigger familyI know it was very hard to decide and I respect that. You cannot make it right for everyoneI will also shutdown the page monitoring soon: (i think eevblog is running good again)http://rsgiveaway.knoebel.at/Tanks again. And I'm looking forward to watch more videos soon

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 11:32:51 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on August 07, 2017, 09:28:18 amThat would be a bad move, it would only lead to endless complaining at best.I once made the mistake to try and explain to someone who entered the Hack-A-Day contest that I judged why perhaps they maybe didn't win (because they won the "popular vote" based on viewer responses, so they were gobsmacked at not winning), honesty did not go down well.Will never make that mistake again.

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 12:06:13 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 07, 2017, 11:32:51 amonly lead to endless complaining at best- as is human naturedidt win the Ferrari, so its time to save & buy a Holden!

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 01:28:41 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 07, 2017, 11:32:51 amWould be a nice reference in the CV ... like 3 Place in the BIG CONTEST of *****

author: sarel.wagner
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 01:46:19 pm
content: Congratulations to the WINNER! and also to Dave and the EEVBLOG and all the entrants!Way to go!

author: IanMacdonald
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 01:59:12 pm
content: "Someone who doesn't have a scope clearly isn't serious about electronics,"When I was at Uni I worked in TV repair shops between courses to get some money. For beer, of course. You need beer at Uni.Most of the places didn't have a scope, and of those that did have one, it was so crappy as to be next to useless. The jobs still got done though. In some cases when you don't have the right tool for the job you have to be creative in the way you use other tools. The guys in those places taught me a few faultfinding tricks that you never get taught in college. Some are still just as applicable today.OK, so I've just proved that Idon'tneed the RTB2004. Oops.

author: Novanoid
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 05:08:03 pm
content: I am kind of glad that I didn't win because I could not have used the scope to its full capabilities. Also, two days ago, I scored a Tektronix 2230 for $100 on eBay that does everything I needed. Thanks for the opportunity anyways.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2017, 01:21:22 am
content: BTW, for those who worried about it not going to a forum contributor, Matt has 200 posts(we didn't take that into account though BTW, and I didn't remember Matt's name from the forum)

author: boffin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2017, 02:02:42 am
content: Looks like a worthy winner Dave.I also was really impressed by the guy that you said "Had a future in youtube", I wish I had that level of creativity.I suppose us old guys will have to go back to the luck system in order to try and win.

author: BurnedResistor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2017, 03:02:54 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 08, 2017, 01:21:22 amhey dave,Super stoaked about the shoutout in your videoWhile it definetly stings to get that close and not win the scope, the positive feedback from you two davids and the rest of the community has been super encouraging.Also, I think matt can make better use of the incredible analog capabilities, which would I not need for my current project.Thanks for hosting this giveaway. You gonna do it like this again in the future? On one hand it is a huge time investement, on the other hand it is great to see it go to someone who can actually make good use of itMaybe next time, now that you established that you judge similarly, both can judge half the videos and the come together in the end and discuss your two top 10ish picks? Enlist the help of some other community members as guest judges and do the same?Thanks for inspiring me to get into electronics:)Philipp

author: supernovah
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 08, 2017, 10:27:43 am
content: ...

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2017, 11:46:02 am
content: Quote from: IanMacdonald on August 07, 2017, 01:59:12 pmAbsolutely, the majority of faultfinding is done with the most basic of tools and experience, in fact having more test gear can make it way more difficult to solve problems, especially if you don't have a good understanding of the basic principles.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 09, 2017, 05:07:37 am
content: Quote from: CJay on August 08, 2017, 11:46:02 amThat is very true.Many years ago, I had a quirk in a circuit, so I pulled out the CRO - but it didn't help much. It was only afterwards when I was just thinking about the problem that an idea came to mind.I have found that a good understanding not only can help you solve existing problems, but can also make you aware of potential problems that may arise in the future.Doing more with less is a real thing.

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2017, 09:18:51 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 09, 2017, 05:07:37 amIt always helps to have a circuit diagram so you can trace through and understand the operation but of course if you don't have one then you learn reverse engineering quickly too, a very handy skill that's enabled me to earn a decent living.I sound like a grumpy old man but the 'net and easy access to forums like this as well as datasheets and a huge number of online schematics really has made it a lot easier to avoid having to be able to think for yourself.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 02, 2017, 08:38:44 am
content: HEADS UP!This contest isn't over, just say'n, stay tuned...

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2017, 09:59:14 am
content: Activity update

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2017, 10:20:59 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 02, 2017, 08:38:44 amR&S said "FREE SCOPES FOR EVERYONE!!"...

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 02, 2017, 10:23:34 am
content: Oh ... no.....The hunger pangs have started again.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2017, 10:38:44 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on September 02, 2017, 10:20:59 amWhere?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 12, 2017, 09:02:37 am
content: 3 more winners!

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 12, 2017, 09:12:12 am
content: Damnit!But seriously, good on R&S for stepping in and giving some more worthy people some nice equipment.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 12, 2017, 09:47:22 am
content: If only I'd have known .....Still - I don't think I would have had a chance.Even if I had - I cannot begrudge the winners. Very good choices.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 12, 2017, 10:34:09 am
content: Well done R&SI learnt a few things which I missed this time around....Wait until near the end before making your submissionMention your blog/websiteMention your teaching/outreachMention your hackerspace/community workNext time perhaps.In the meantime it's amazing what you can do with a 2 channel Rigol and some imagination.

author: bjcuizon
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 12, 2017, 10:51:44 am
content: Good job r&s! Wish i had joined though. But hey, I can do most things with just a 30 year old cro.

author: sibeen
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 12, 2017, 11:01:20 am
content: Jammy bastards!Well done all, and a large thumbs up to R&S.

author: WackyGerman
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 12, 2017, 03:56:28 pm
content: Hugeto Rohde & Schwarz for the nice touch . Congratulations to all the winners of the beautiful scopes . Have a really good time with them

author: boffin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 13, 2017, 12:58:01 am
content: Classy move by R&S.Another 146 more scopes and I stand a chance !

author: babysitter
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 14, 2017, 11:42:43 am
content: Congratulations to Rob and my very own hackerspace

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 16, 2017, 08:16:03 am
content: Oh shyte! More scopes for the same batch of videos? That's totally unfair, but in a good way.I was so stupid not to enter the giveaway, now I'm a little bit jealous!Well done Dave & David & Rohde & Schwartz & winners, glad for you all, well done!

author: Deridex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 16, 2017, 04:11:27 pm
content: Impressive move by Dave and Rohde&SchwarzCongratulations to the winners!

author: paulcav
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 17, 2017, 05:56:58 am
content: Congratulations to the winners!

author: boffin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 18, 2017, 02:01:16 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 02, 2017, 08:38:44 amI suppose hoping for a 3rd round is too much, right?

author: pknoe3lh
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2018, 07:46:58 am
content: So more than one year is passed. Here my last statistic.Overall my conclusion is that this kind of contests did not help to grow the community ....