Siglent SDS2000X-E Unlock BW 350 MHz help. - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: zebu
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 23, 2020, 10:30:26 am
content: Hello !Please tell me if it is possible to crack the BW range up to 350 MHz on the modelSDS2202X-E?I have a model SDS2000X-E serries Akip 4126 / 1e 100 MHz for Russia. For iron models SDS2352X-E, SDS2202X-E, Akip 4126 / 1e should be the same.Perhaps the BW lock is installed with capacitors, as in the SDS2000X model.It is necessary to compare the input path of the model SDS2352X-E and the model I have Acip 4126 / 1e.Or maybe someone will share photos of the board in good quality. Interested in a photo of the input tracts near the relle.For comparison, I post my photos.Sorry for my English.

author: zebu
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 23, 2020, 01:37:24 pm
content: These areas are especially interesting on the board with the SDS2352X-E model

author: zebu
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 23, 2020, 01:39:37 pm
content: reverse side of the board

author: zebu
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 23, 2020, 02:00:43 pm
content: How much was able to identify applied lmh6518SQhttp://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lmh6518.pdf

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2020, 07:59:22 pm
content: The hack is simple, no HW changes required.Study reply #158 in this thread:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/unlocking-siglent-sds1104x-e-step-by-step/

author: zebu
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 24, 2020, 06:24:16 am
content: I read this topic thank you very much!But I can’t get SCOPEID.I execute the SKOPEID command but I get nothing in response.

author: djac
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2020, 09:17:57 am
content: the command is: scopeid?Regards Dieter

author: zebu
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 24, 2020, 11:08:00 am
content: Thank you all so much!Everything worked out !Special thanks to the keygen authors!

author: 0x10c
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 15, 2020, 05:59:50 am
content: Good day! How about the rise time after the hacking oscilloscope. Did anyone make a comparison before the hack and after the hack?Доброго дня! Как поживает ваш взломанный осциллограф, есть глюки после взлома? Время нарастания не меряли после взлома?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2020, 07:16:40 am
content: Quote from: 0x10c on July 15, 2020, 05:59:50 amNot that I know of but here's some risetimes of a factory SDS2352X-E using one of Leo's early pulsers:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-e/msg2097766/#msg2097766I see no reason why a hacked one will be any different.A -3dB point BW check of both the 200 and 350 MHz models are a bit later in the thread.

author: 0x10c
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 15, 2020, 10:12:38 am
content: Hmm... Do you think it is software limitation, and SDS2202X-E with SDS2352X-E have the same hardware?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2020, 10:19:19 am
content: Quote from: 0x10c on July 15, 2020, 10:12:38 amYes, as it it with many brands of scopes from the same model series.I like these little scopes as they offer good horsepower, features and BW for a good price.Others will point you to how to 'improve' the 200 to 350 MHz....I might get growled at for doing so.

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2020, 03:06:24 pm
content: Interesting to learn that Siglent uses Russian silkscreen text on the buttons for the Russian market.Do they do this on all Siglent oscilloscopes?

author: kde
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2020, 02:11:51 pm
content: Quote from: pascal_sweden on July 15, 2020, 03:06:24 pmAnd it is really awful. E.g. the Russian "analog" of SDS2202X-E is "АКИП-4126/2Е" and it has "ВЕРТИК" (VERTIC) instead of VERTICAL, "ЦИФР" (DIG) instead of DIGITAL and a lot of other not very good abbreviations. I'm Russian myself but I'd really prefer to use the original Siglent product.

author: kde
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2020, 02:39:22 pm
content: Quote from: zebu on February 24, 2020, 11:08:00 amI'm considering purchasing SDS2202X-E and I am interested in upgrading its bandwidth up to 350 MHz. As I see from your post, you successfully did it, right? Do I understand the upgrading process right:1. I'm getting "scope id" via SCPI (can it be done via some kind of web-interface or do I need to install an app?)2. I'm getting "scope serial number" (via some menu item like scope information?)3. I run a python script from the other thread.4. I get some keys from that script which I enter into the scope.5. Scope has extended bandwith.Right?In Russian.Я подумываю о покупке SDS2202X-E и мне интересен апгрейд его полосы пропускания до 350 МГц. Как я вижу из вашего поста, вам это удалось. Правильно ли я понимаю процесс апгрейда:1. Я получаю scope id через SCPI (это можно сделать черед веб-интерфейс или надо ставить приложение?)2. Я получаю серийный номер осциллографа (через какой-то пункт меню типа информации о продукте?)3. Я запускаю скрипт на питоне из другой ветки форума.4. Скрипт мне генерирует несколько ключей, которые я ввожу в осциллограф.5. У осциллографа увеличивается полоса пропускания.Так?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2020, 07:20:43 am
content: Quote from: kde on November 28, 2020, 02:39:22 pmNearly right.There is no option box within the scope to upgrade the BW so it must be done with SCPI commands and the simplest way is from the web server SCPI command panel.Some study in the forum will find the correct SCPI command.

author: kde
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2020, 08:24:29 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on November 29, 2020, 07:20:43 amYeah, I've found the step-by-step guide a bit laterThe commands are (without quotes) "SCOPEID?" and "MCBD <key>".Now the only tiny thing left is to order the scope

author: mawyatt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2020, 09:00:10 pm
content: Quote from: kde on November 29, 2020, 08:24:29 pmI just enabled the SDS2102X Plus to 500MHz with tv84 help. Ok to be honest, it wasn't 500MHz, it's ~615MHzhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-hack/msg3345964/#msg3345964Note that when dealing thru the scopes "Options" the keys are in lower case, but with SCPI MCBD the key is upper caseAlso think that when dealing with "Options" entry the DSO model is updated, but not so with SCPI, you must follow procedure mentioned above (which I haven't done yet).Once you get the SDS2104X Plus, you will thank tautech & tv84 over and over again. Amazing DSO, and what a valueBest,

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2020, 09:37:26 pm
content: Quote from: mawyatt on November 29, 2020, 09:00:10 pmkde is looking at the SDS2202X-E, it's a 200 MHz 2 GSa/s 28 Mpts DSO for just $619 and hacked it can be 350 MHz and while it doesn't have all the fruits of the X Plus series these are still a fine little DSO for those on a limited budget. Capability is the same as other X-E models (MSO, AWG, WiFi) but the higher BW and 2 GSa/s is more desirable to some than the 1 GSa/s 1000X-E series.

author: kde
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2020, 10:27:35 pm
content: Quote from: mawyatt on November 29, 2020, 09:00:10 pmSDS2104X Plus seems like a very interesting model (considering bandwidth upgrade), but it's €899 vs. €539 for SDS2202X-E at siglent.eu or $1200 vs $700 at amazon with delivery. And I am not sure whether I need to pay extra VAT at customs office, and if I do it will add 20% more.But they both have 2 GSa/s, so I hope that SDS2202X-E (upgraded to 350 MHz) will be able to show 500 MHz signals too. Currently I have 1 GSa/s 100 MHz Rigol and it shows 170 Mhz without significant amplitude decay, so it gives me the same hope about Siglent.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2020, 10:34:44 pm
content: That price is wrong. Siglent SDS2104X Plus - € 1,390.84 incl. 16% VAT at Batronix.You saw 2ch version.

author: kde
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2020, 10:44:38 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on November 29, 2020, 10:34:44 pmYes, you are right. I really saw the 2ch version. 4ch is obviously great but it's completely beyond my financial capabilities (€1,199 excluding VAT).