Hakko FR-410 pulsating hum / vibrations - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: kTsAT
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 01, 2022, 02:13:52 pm
content: Hello everybody,I've recently purchased a Hakko FR-410 desoldering station which turned out to have a pulsating hum, also being able to feel vibrations on the case. I could return it (purchased from an official Hakko distributor in Europe) and after receiving the replacement station it also appears to have the same hum/vibration most likely coming from the transformer.Since I've had two new stations now, both with the same problem, I am starting to wonder, if this is a bad batch or if I might have problems with mains power in my house.. I have never experienced problems like that with any other tools I've been using over the years (mainly Weller and Metcal), so I am a bit clueless what's going on. The distributor checked the unit before shipping and said it's ok, only very light noise which is normal, but the noise the stations are making at my place definitely is anything else than normal and VERY annoying.It's quite difficult to get in touch with Hakko directly, so maybe somebody here could share his thoughts on this problem..Thank you!

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2022, 12:54:31 am
content: We don't know what loud or annoying is to you. Did you measure the dB?Can you simply switch it off when not in use, is it that loud that when desoldering with fume extraction on, the hum is still annoying?

author: kTsAT
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 02, 2022, 11:38:40 pm
content: I haven't measured the db, but recorded a short mobile phone video. The noise isn't a problem with the fume extraction running and I could of course turn the station on/off but to be honest, spending that amount of money, I don't wanna have to deal with transformer related problems from day one. I liked the performance of this station and it's definitely a good station but sadly it seems that it doesn't like the mains power at my place. I've never focused a similar problem with any of my other tools or machines in general, the only problem with transformers I've dealt with are related to devices which are a couple of decades old, and even those didn't have this noise level. I am able to return it to the distributor though and I'll either get the mx-ds1 handpiece since I've a free port on my mx5200 + an air compressor or the pace st115 (the tip selection and tip price make the pace look a bit more interesting..)Nevertheless, here's a wetransfer link to the mobile phone recording:https://we.tl/t-HoRQrzv0it

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2022, 01:07:00 am
content: Can't hear anything but its possible the microphone or my speakers aren't working at that frequency.Its not really a transformer "problem", more some mounting/mechanical issue. Many DMM6500 had a hum/buzz reportedly. Maybe take it apart carefully, see if you spot anything.I would just turn it off when not in use, specifically with a single switch to control all of your soldering gear and the fume extraction fan. Makes life a lot easier.But up to you.

author: ygi
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2022, 10:17:51 am
content: Yep, that's definitely normal 50Hz transformer noise. All the crests happen at multiples of 50 and peak at 200 and 300Hz.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 09:57:34 pm
content: is your home power good? I tried the hakko 888d on a small inverter and it was making some really funky noises

author: kTsAT
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 14, 2022, 11:06:01 am
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on March 04, 2022, 09:57:34 pmyes it's good, running quite a lot of tools and other instruments and never had problems with trafo hum/noise unless the trafo was faulty (at least to that degree). I've in the meantime replaced the Hakko station with a Pace ST-115 and it's all good. Performance of the FR410 was nice, but I've to say that in the end I am happy that I ended up with Pace, the story about less clogging isn't just marketing and feels like day and night compared to any other desoldering tool I've used so far.