Phoenard, An arduino based prototyping gadget/phone - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Floyo
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 11:59:01 am
content: A new project on kickstarter, an arduino based phone with a lot of intergrated features for prototyping circuits, and everyday use.I had the opportunity to try it out (I walk around in the same building) and think its a nice platform for quite a few uses for both beginnersand experienced prototypers that want to get a lot of diverse projects running quickly.check it out here and l would like to see what you think:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2080282237/phoenard-the-arduino-compatible-prototyping-gadget?ref=recommended

author: Kean
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 06:30:00 am
content: If it had 3G it would be perfect.I imagine this would not be very popular at airport security these days

author: Floyo
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 12:31:13 pm
content: Although it doesn't have 3g, the sim908 module does support gprs, so sending data packets over the web should still be possible, just not all that fast. And I don't think the poor atmega can handle a full 3G stream at 14 megabit.Airport security is another thing, it really depends on your luck what they will think of it, though nothing should really pose a problem, any phone contains most of the same stuff.

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 12:39:29 pm
content: I don't get it. They put GSM and a color display on it, and yet they crippled it by using only an 8-bit AVR. They should at least have put a low-end ARM on it.

author: Floyo
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 12:54:02 pm
content: One of the first things I mentioned to the creators is "Why not ARM" and the reason they gave is a pretty valid one, they wanted the platform to be easily accessible for beginners and switching to arm brings a quite a bit of extra work with it when just starting out, compared to an 8-bitter.Even though stuff like mbed etc. are available their ecosystems are a lot less beginner friendly. This way the barrier to get started is put really low, but the gap between "bare-metal" and absolute beginner is a bit more manageable.

author: nuhamind2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 01:01:18 pm
content: Initially it is used for AVR Hero contest, so based on AVR it is. I know because one of the guy behind the campaign is from my country,and it's a bit of buzz here.

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 01:57:25 pm
content: Quote from: Floyo on November 15, 2014, 12:54:02 pmIt should be possible to integrate an ARM compiler into the Arduino environment, in my opinion. A bit (or maybe a lot) more work on the development side porting the compiler, libraries, bootloader etc to the platform, but if done right no more difficult to use for the end user.

author: matseng
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2014, 03:29:33 am
content: Quote from: nitro2k01 on November 15, 2014, 01:57:25 pmAh... So you mean like the Arduino Due using a Cortex-M3 ATSAM3X8E released in October 2012? Yea, I'm sure that will be possible some day. ;-)

author: fake-name
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2014, 03:35:40 am
content: Quote from: nitro2k01 on November 15, 2014, 01:57:25 pmHell, it's already been done5 years ago!Take a look at the leaf-labs Maple, which came out in **2009**http://leaflabs.com/about-mapleIt uses a fork of the arduino shitty-text-editor-with-macro-button-they-call-an-IDE.

author: PointyOintment
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2014, 05:43:09 am
content: Doesn't Teensy do that too?And I completely agree with your characterization of the Arduino "IDE".

author: fake-name
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2014, 03:01:13 pm
content: Quote from: PointyOintment on November 16, 2014, 05:43:09 amTo be clear, it's a shitty text editor, with a macro button. If it was anicetext editor with a macro button, I'd complain a lot less. Hell, I do a fair bit of "arduino" stuff, using Sublime Text and Stino, and I'm completely happy, but that's because sublime text is agreattext editor.It's still not an IDE.