[AU] 2 Gigabit internet and new ONT/NTD information - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 15, 2025, 03:27:57 am
content: I thought I'd just share what I know about the new residential speed tiers now available on NBN. I'll keep this short and sweet.The price of 100 Megabit and lower speed tiers are going up, while most plans 250 Mbit and above are going down.There are a small handful of new speed tiers, including 2000/100, 2000/200 and 2000/500 downstream/upstream.For those on fibre-to-the-premises, the current NTDs are only capable of 1 Gigabit downstream. If you want the higher speed plans, this will trigger an order on NBN's side to supply and install a new NTD. There are two new NTDs which are being installed: there is a 1-port Nokia (model XS-010X-Q) which is the default device that is being supplied when you change plans (at no cost to the customer), or there is an optional 4-port Sercomm unit, which customers can request through their provider, but will incur a $300 cost to cover the hardware. Both are capable of up to 10 Gigabits on the LAN and WAN interfaces.If you are a residential customer withmore than oneactive service (i.e.: two or more of your UNI-D ports are in use) on your current NTD, you will automatically receive the 4-port NTD, at no cost, regardless of the speed tier(s) you are currently on, you'll still need to place an order for the 2 Gig tier to trigger that change (NBN are only upgrading those who "need" the new hardware).Currently, there is an expectation that there is a limited supply of both types of NTDs and potential delays in getting them installed. If this is something you think you'll need/want, it might be an idea to jump on this now.The information I have provided above is from Launtel directly, but it should be more or less accurate for other providers as well. Also, since I'm a Launtel customer (and they offer daily pricing), they have confirmed that you can switch to the higher plans now, trigger the new NTD install, then drop back to a lower speed tier at any time, without any kind of penalty or lock-in.(Not sponsored) By the way, if you are a "power user" and want the best service, I highly recommend Launtel, even over and above Aussie Broadband and Superloop. Their service is absolutely top-tier and you can actually "talk tech" with their staff, no repetitive scripts or overseas call centres. I've been with them for years and have been extremely satisfied with both the quality of their service, and their support. Their online portal is also the best I've seen; lots of buttons to poke at. You can even control the QoS policers/limiters yourself if you want to.EDIT: No idea how it will work with areas serviced by Opticomm, I didn't ask as I'm on pure NBN infrastructure.

author: kjpye
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2025, 03:48:54 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on September 15, 2025, 03:27:57 amAre you sure about that? My understanding of what nbn and my ISP are saying, is that the wholesale prices of everything is staying the same, but the speeds available on 100Mbps and higher plans are increasing significantly. For example a standard 100/20 service will become 500/50 at the same price as the old 100/20 service (assuming the ISP doesn't increase their markup). (All this applies only for premises with HFC or FTTP connections.)

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 15, 2025, 03:54:11 am
content: Quote from: kjpye on September 15, 2025, 03:48:54 amLauntel has a matrix of all the available plans including the new ones and the various technology mix (attached). It's also on their blog here:https://www.launtel.net.au/news/launtel-pricing-update-new-2gb-plansThere hasn't been any announcements that any of the older speed tiers are going away. The issue with the 100 Mbit tiers is that those on fibre-to-the-node or fibre-to-the-basement won't be able to take advantage of higher speeds as their service doesn't support anything higher (yet). RSPs won't supply a plan faster than what the technology can handle.EDIT: Sorry, you are correct in that thewholesaleprice isn't changing as a result of these changes. NBN have said"There are no changes to the nbn wholesale pricing of these speed tiers arising from the speed increases. Independent to the speed increases initiative, nbn’s prices will continue to be reviewed annually in accordance with the Special Access Undertaking (SAU) price controls (which are linked to CPI) with indicative prices for FY26 and FY27 set out in the current three-year SAU Pricing Roadmap published on nbn’s website. The annual price changes for FY26 will be released when nbn publishes the FY26 tariff list on 1 May 2025. The FY26 indicative wholesale price for nbn Home Fast is $58.93, nbn Home Superfast is $63.93 and nbn Home Ultrafast is $73.933. nbn Home Hyperfast products will be made available to internet retailers for a wholesale price of $115 per month."So it seems RSP's are adjusting their prices to align with the cost of the new plans. That being said, not all providers offer all the speed tiers. Some only offer a subset of those that are available, Launtel gives customers a choice from all of them (depending on your technology type). Also, Launtel isn't catering to customers who are shopping around for the lowest price. Their focus is on quality of service, first and foremost.

author: johnboxall
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 15, 2025, 05:42:32 am
content: ooh, thanks for that. We're getting our FTTN>FTTP conversion this week. No more internet drop-outs when it rains.I hope.

author: kite31
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2025, 06:06:35 am
content: One of the nice things about FTTP is that if you have a home battery or sufficient UPS, the service keeps running during a local blackout or "service outage".Our service has made a skinny move today from 1000/50 to 1000/100 with no price reduction. We could upgrade for the 2.5 Gb my router etc can handle but I do not see a need for more at present. For our needs even 1Gb is a bit of an indulgence.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 15, 2025, 06:14:26 am
content: Quote from: johnboxall on September 15, 2025, 05:42:32 amThe difference is night and day. I upgraded to FTTP in 2022 after years of fault after fault. When I was on FTTN, the line would just go open circuit a few times a year because it was crappy old copper. I even lost a bunch of equipment a few times during storms where lightning hit the NBN line, travelled through the modem, then via the LAN cable. It should have just been fibre from the beginning like originally planned.I flicked the switch today and ordered the new 4-port NTD. Once that gets installed, I'll drop back down to 1000/400 as my WiFi and most of the devices won't go any faster than that anyway. I just want to have the option as my server rack and the core network all runs at 10 Gig.

author: johnboxall
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 15, 2025, 06:19:28 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on September 15, 2025, 06:14:26 amYeah I'm very happy. When we moved in here four years ago, they offered us 250/250 enterprise ethernet for $1099 a month for 36 months contract. Instead we just ate it and drove to Toowoomba to make large uploads. Patience paid off I guess.My SIL went from FTTP available in 2017, thought about it too long and was downgraded to FTTN.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 15, 2025, 08:40:24 am
content: Quote from: johnboxall on September 15, 2025, 06:19:28 amIt got to the point where I was looking at EE as an option, but I couldn't justify the cost. Unless you need the Class of Service or 1:1 contention, it's definitely not worth it for residential. Also, if you were to go down the EE route, you can't just re-use that same fibre for residential fibre NBN later, they would still need to roll out a different fibre cable to your premises. You can't just switch between regular NBN and EE. The fibre terminates at physically different places.