Purchase of ESSEMTEC CSM 740 (OR 740i) feeders. - Page 1
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author: bpjl
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2025, 10:31:34 am
content: Does anyone know where, and if at all, can I buy the ESSEMTEC CSM 740 (OR 740i) feeders themselves? I have a working ESSEMTEC CSM7000+ machine and only 10 feeders. A larger amount would make it much easier to work with this device.

author: SMTech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2025, 12:41:57 pm
content: By crossing your fingers and praying?Essemtec themselves might have refurbs, as might dealers/service engineers and people who used to be one of those things. They won't be cheap, what you really need is to find users who are retiring their machines. This is easier said than done, really needs the help of a dealer or engineer who might know who might be getting rid of what you need.In Polandhttps://smtbroker.pl/this place seems to churn quite a lot of EssemtecSometimes seen it herehttps://twentech.com/It might be easier or cheaper to buy another Essemtec machine that comes with the number of feeders you need. You should see increasing numbers of FLX and older machines coming on the market as support is withdrawn and parts get rarer. Herre's a machine seemingly with feeders in the UKhttps://www.shawline.co.uk/product.php?id_product=116

author: bpjl
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2025, 03:31:54 pm
content: I suspected that it could be, however, I was a bit deluding myself with hope.It's time to start sending emails: P

author: jmelson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 23, 2025, 04:48:05 pm
content: There are some outfits in the US that deal mostly in feeders. One I have bought from is "feeder frenzy"https://www.lewis-clark.com/product-category/feeders/I don't see Essemtec listed there, but they might have some available or know where to send you.Jon

author: SMTech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2025, 07:31:35 am
content: Quote from: jmelson on April 23, 2025, 04:48:05 pmThis is the downside of choosing machine from a niche manufacturer, especially the small ones. They design all the parts themselves, options and spares can be surprisingly expensive or rare. Expertise or knowledge outside of the main dealer network is non existent and any specialist tools only exist with them as they don't have the kind of customers who have 15 machines and an in house trained service team so that pool, of tools and knowledge stays small.Essemtec has done something most manufacturers avoid, it has made a new improved and in no way compatible feeder for almost every generation of machine. This means nobody has a huge surplus of them although the most common type is probably the CLM cassette from FLX series. You can still make modern machines accept these older feeders (to the exclusion of modern HyQ feeders in that bay) but the electronics has to be upgraded. I don't believe they ever made it possible to fit newer feeder types to older machines.You also won't find 3rd party clones of the nozzles as you might with the big brands. The same is true for the Mycronic & Europlacer but that is partly because their authentic nozzles are I think both designed to have serviceable tips that are comparatively affordable. The other niche manufacturers are just too small and unstable for anyone to have bothered with.Contrast this with say Assembleon/Yamaha or a DEK printer or Heller Ovens, lots of industry service engineers have worked on these in their careers. Plenty of knowledge out there, out of network service options etc. How much all this matters depends entirely on how you run your business and how dirty you like to get inside a a potentially mission critical appliance.

author: MR
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2025, 02:14:17 am
content: Quote from: SMTech on April 24, 2025, 07:31:35 amNiche manufacturers usually cook with water, attach an oscilloscope to a feeder record the signal and re-implement it.Afterwards check for suitable feeders which might fit in.Try to work together with a machining company to adapt a fixture for other feeders.I have done that with a Mechatronika (probably the worst and most incompetent PNP machine manufacturer on this planet),and even further I have built my second machine by myself and adapted it to support 3rd party feeders.My conclusion is even old industrial feeders are still worth it.If you are up to adapting it we (initially software and electronic company only) have merged with a machining company and might be able to help further.I have even designed my own 8mm feeders but for now decided to discontinue that project since the material itself is more expensive than the feeders I'm able to source.Yet it was no failed project because it opened the door for the merger with the machining company on our side.