Paper: On the reception and detection of pseudo-profound bullshit - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 05, 2015, 10:19:10 am
content: Great journal paper!http://journal.sjdm.org/15/15923a/jdm15923a.html

author: German_EE
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2015, 10:36:14 am
content: I see an Ig Nobel prize in the near future for this little effort.The finest example of bullshit I have ever heard was from a double glazing salesman who tried to convince us that his products were used in Windsor Castle and on Richard Branson's yacht. The light from the bullshit detector was so strong it hurt my eyes.

author: rt
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2015, 10:55:24 am
content: It would interesting to do a study of Crowdfunding backers to determine their BSR* (Bullshit Receptivity) score

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2015, 02:57:36 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on December 05, 2015, 10:47:56 amThe best example of "verisimilitude" is Pooh-Bah's disclaimer in "The Mikado":"Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative."Senator Sam Ervin (a simple country lawyer) used that quotation when questioning a Watergate conspirator during the Senate Nixon impeachment hearings.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2015, 06:42:41 am
content: Oh cool. It's actually a serious paper.After getting a few screen-fulls in, I'm putting that aside to be read when I'm not in lazy Sunday afternoon mindspace."The development of interventions and strategies that help individuals guard against bullshit is an important additional goal that requires considerable attention from cognitive and social psychologists."A good 'intervention' to start with, would be applying a 2x4 to people who believe bullshit just because it comes from 'respected' sources. Newspapers, TV news, government spokespeople, economists, bankers, the IPCC, and so on.Slightly relevant:http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3947

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2015, 09:08:55 am
content: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/other-blog-specific/who-is-most-likely-to-fall-prey-to-bullshit-and-why/[edited post to remove undesirable material]

author: AndyC_772
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2016, 09:35:07 pm
content: Quote from: German_EE on December 05, 2015, 10:36:14 amIt won the Ig Nobel peace prizehttp://www.improbable.com/ig/winners/

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2016, 10:58:51 pm
content: It wasn't a lie, it was just....bullshit!

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 28, 2016, 07:17:51 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on December 06, 2015, 06:42:41 amThat would be icing on the cake. I'd even be satisfied if people could detect which sources are more/less likely to be valid

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 28, 2016, 10:44:23 am
content: Quote from: tggzzz on September 28, 2016, 07:17:51 amSocial experiment - most people are sheepMeaning, no, most people typically are *never* going to filter like you wish. Not unless early education undergoes a revolution, that isn't regulated by Elites ensuring their sheep never wake up.I'd love to find myself in a situation something like that waiting room. It would be fun sitting there and laughing at them. (I tend to be unprogrammable by social convention.)Btw, I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, and I'm going to ignore it. Incidentally, that video was linked via a 'quite often rubbish' site, that I read for fun and sometimes good leads. Like that.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2016, 12:27:03 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on December 05, 2015, 10:44:28 amOn that definition, here is my ontological confusion:Your [insert you country name] goverment propaganda is Bullshit or is it Lie ?

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 30, 2016, 10:25:06 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on September 28, 2016, 10:44:23 amNo! That's got to be staged... right!?!One thing that irks me is when stopped in a line of traffic at a red light. Have you noticed that if one person rolls forward, just a few meters, 95% of others will follow suit. For what reason I don't understand? The light is still red, traffic isn't going anywhere.

author: AndyC_772
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2016, 10:41:20 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on September 30, 2016, 10:25:06 am"Creepy-crawlies". Very irritating people to watch.

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2016, 11:43:09 am
content: Quote from: AndyC_772 on September 30, 2016, 10:41:20 amIf you grew up in a place like New York, you would know the answer.If you leave so much as an inch of room between you and the guy in front of you (that's 2.54 millihectares for all you metric weirdos), someone else is going to squeeze in and cut you off. You need to defend your territory or you'll be stuck at the same light for hours.

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2016, 05:12:31 pm
content: Exactly. One time I had to drive to NY for work, it was late at night by the time I got there and on one of the major streets, I don't recall which any more, but one of the bigger ones, they had several lanes blocked off for construction - gradually squeezing you over to the right. I am not a timid driver, I had no problem sliding in to the oncoming taxis, but there at the very last bit of road before the last lane closure, sat a car with non-NY plates, blinker on, patently waiting for someone to let them out. As I drove by it was like "Buddy, you're going to be here all night if you think someone will let you in"What bugs me are people who stop WAY back at lights, and then creep up, or people who stop in a line of traffic at a distance from the car ahead that would be safe following distance at speed, even when there's no chance of someone cutting in the line. Then as we wait, they creep up and suddenly I'm 2 car lengths behind the car in front of me. If it's downhill I'll creep up, but flat or uphill, damned if I'm going to ride my clutch just to move up a car length or so. Another case of, if more people drove manual transmission cars, this sort of thing wouldn't happen.