Are you a hoarder? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 02:57:07 pm
content: About saving EE scrap, stocking jellybean parts, books, equipment, tools and such.Do you ever think about yourself that maybe you went overboard with your lab?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 02:58:49 pm
content: You missed one option: recovering hoarder

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 03:06:55 pm
content: im in treatment.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 03:08:10 pm
content: Added poll option

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 03:41:20 pm
content: I was until a close friend of mine who hoarded old paraphernalia died suddenly from a stroke. His grieving widow was burdened, among a dozen other priorities, of disposing of a basement full of stuff. Neither his grown up children nor his closest friends knew what to do with 90% of what had been hoarded, and a state sale didn’t help much either. Most ended on the trash.As neither of my children likes electronics, I have started disposing of stuff that I won’t ever use again, like a boxful of TTL chips. And no longer salivate over surplus sales.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 03:51:39 pm
content: For those who are drawn to this thread .... take a look at the*TEA Glossary(scroll down a bit)..... then tell us how well you identified with what you saw there.*TEA - Test Equipment Anonymous

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 03:53:04 pm
content: PS I'm saying nothing.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 03:54:52 pm
content: Can you get through your front door, and work your way to the toilet and your bed? If yes, you aren't a very good hoarder.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 04:01:35 pm
content: Well, added a "something else" category to the poll

author: globoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 04:18:14 pm
content: I'm with schmitt trigger. I had to deal with my father's estate and I know my partner and children won't know what to do with my lab so I now have a yearly purge with the goal that every year more goes out than comes in. I have to say it always feels good after the purge!

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 04:50:06 pm
content: A few years ago an old friend passed away, much too early. I helped to clean out his hobby related stuff and we gave several boxes full of useful parts and devices to a local repair café. They happily took everything. The junk went to e-waste and more valuable devices were sold. Of course, I also took some things.

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 05:04:59 pm
content: No.I have a fair number of things laying around (about 2000 unique items actively cataloged, though to varying degree of accuracy, mainly in terms of being lazy updating the quantity when I fetch some parts..), but no mass quantities of anything, and just a few bits of junk/salvage that I've mostly picked over already.I can see where an ordinary person might consider that a lot, but the nature of electronics is to need a lot of little things. I have like three reels ofanything, and those are just incidental; most are singles to hundreds, cut tape or the like, and things I use regularly in breadboarding and prototyping. Most components fit into a couple of drawers, boxes and organizers, and the rarely used stuff sits in a couple of boxes in the basement. Pretty sure everything I have would fit in a standard storage locker, and most of that will be furniture.Tim

author: Zeyneb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 06:08:54 pm
content: I've a lot of unfinished DIY projects. Not really EE, but more car repairs and stuff to do in the house. Some are in the way before I can complete the next. All the stuff will be used in the end. I would like to do a very good job of each project, so that is overwhelming and also lead to procrastination.

author: artag
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 06:23:37 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on August 24, 2024, 02:58:49 pmThere's a reason why that option isn't needed.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 07:04:00 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on August 24, 2024, 02:58:49 pmRecovering from hoarding, or recovering stuff to hoard? The latter is an interesting class of hoarder, stripping everything down to a collection of components they will one day reuse for exciting new projects. The snag is they are always too busy stripping stuff down to ever start those new projects.

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 08:14:22 pm
content: Funny thing is most people you would accuse of hoarding have boxes of old newspapers, or thrift store clothes, or little elephant figurines. The sum total actual market value of all that stuff is about $0.00.If I consider my test equipment stash a "hoard", then someone that had to deal with that if I died suddenly would make out well if they had an eBay account. I think that sufficiently offsets the box of old motherboards and other random circuit boards and components under the bench. :⁠-⁠)PS. As the son of an actual hoarder of the newspaper and magazine variety, my advice to anyone looking at having to deal with that at some point is..... Just because someone else applied value to all that stuff does not mean that inherited value must be transferred to you. Try to accept that before you have to deal with it. Trying to process that in the moment when you are waist deep in boxes is harder to do.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 08:20:01 pm
content: Quote from: Smokey on August 24, 2024, 08:14:22 pmWifey's uncle was a hoarder. When we had to taken action, and cleared out his apartment, there was about $20k in a bundle amongst those old newspapers and other junk. We had no idea it was there, and it almost got thrown out.

author: Postal2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 01:51:19 am
content: I threw away the vacuum tubes. I wanted to give them away, but they offered to send them by mail. I left a couple of sets for a device that I don't know what to call (in the photo). I had a lot of vacuum tubes.I used this device to very precisely tune the recording channel of video recorders.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 07:20:55 am
content: Yes I admit I am a hoarder.So much I can not work in the lab due to overloaded tables with project stuff.Time to really throw away invaluable stuff I am never going to use anymore and give away the rest. Time is often the critical part. The few hours left next to work and family , I rather spent tinkering and getting stuff which gives me a good feeling, then sorting out and throwing away stuff which feels bad.That is why I admit I am a hoarder, I suffer from the weird brain programming that old obsolete parts are as valuable as antique art

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 07:30:15 am
content: Yes, I also suffer from hoarding problems.Not from jellybean components or old project crap per se. I'm not very much into recycling and I don't have any purpose to hold onto old parts since all my designs use modern SMT parts... But I do have a bad habit of holding onto old IT equipment. I still have my laptop from 16 years ago, and until recently I was still using a 12 year old desktop as a HTPC. I replaced that machine since, but I doubt I will actually disassemble and sell/dump that tower anytime soon.But like a "real" classic hoarder: no. I had a family member that had this problem, which we only found out after his passing. His bedroom was literally full a boxes covering all walls up to the ceiling, and after a first scout through the house I wasn't even able to find his bed. The bathroom was even stacked full of junk.So sad to see that even before someones funeral, but more so, that I knew this person so well but he never asked for help. He was aware this was a problem, as he was very ashamed of it.In the end we threw about 10 containers out of junk. And with container I mean: one of those large ones that fill up a truck flatbed that you use for constructionwork.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 08:52:18 am
content: Quote from: hans on August 25, 2024, 07:30:15 amThat must have been expensive.I'm not a real stuff hoarder, just a bit of a collector of microcontroller and other modules. Plus my large fischertechnik collection and my synthesizers, scopes. Oh wait maybe I'm a bit of a hoarder.I'm for sure a digital hoarder. My mail and other archives are way to big, but can't get myself to clean it up. I just buy another harddisk to keep on going.

author: mendip_discovery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 09:29:26 am
content: I'm not a hoarder but other people may think I am.I have old hard drives as I fear the moment u bin them somone will say how easy it is to recover data.I also like having the tools for a job, so I often buy the bits and the tools for a task use them and then keep them ready for the next time.My granddad was a hoarder, my mum is, and my uncle. Though when it's not my stuff I can let go of it easier.I just dont like throwing good stuff away, I always have ideas of fixing/restoring it. I just get ....I also don't like selling stuff as I always seem to sell it too cheaply.Distracted.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 09:33:50 am
content: I own two storage units, one 44sqm, one 31sqm.Where do I apply for my club card?

author: mendip_discovery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 09:45:11 am
content: That made me think of AA meetings, but a TEAs version of it. Each year for good collecting you get a component first year a resistor, then a cap, and so on. We would all have IDs that we could show which would allow people to identify another as a TEAs member. There would also be a need for a arbitration body to deal with managing issues around multiple members after the same test gear at events.

author: fourtytwo42
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 10:28:33 am
content: I put myself as a recovering hoarder, I would at one time strip pcb's for "useful" components, take apart old furniture for the screws, nothing was wasted, I also had/have a huge collection of data books. Over the years there is no doubt I have not only saved money this way but been able to build many things from stock rather than waiting for the post.Now approaching my 70th year many things have changed, data is widely and instantaneously available online so I don't need the books anymore (many have already gone), old electrolytic's get to old, I find I am simply not building the scale of electronic projects I used to and most parts are rapidly available with online stores no matter where you live.As for screws meahhhh the garage has many many bottles some of which have not been touched for years and new pozi-drive screws are a lot easier to use in an electric screwdriver than slotted heads so I reckon that's next on my clearout list as well although the comment about having stuff to hand still counts but 10,000's ??Hording is largely history and often for emotional reasons, I used to have a TEK465 big lump of iron that I nurtured for years but eventually it just got to old and has been replaced by a small USB scope that easily travels everywhere with me and can even be balanced in side big bits of kit for measurements. I should add I still have my foibles like a DIY bass major amplifier (EL34 push-pull) left over from my gigging days in the 60's & 70's that I won't throw away (at least it's only one) hahahaI guess sometimes we just have to accept progress for what it is and blow away the cobwebs

author: Siwastaja
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 10:34:05 am
content: I was.Possibly the worst combination for hoarding some 15 years back: bought a pickup truck (with the idea of converting it into an EV, but that never happened), rented a garage/warehouse with a large garage door, visited scrapyards and bought off some auctions etc. Super easy to just push more stuff in.Finally found a woman (now wife), slowly got rid of 90% of the stuff within a year or so without sacrificing everything, moved away from the garage, then bought a house and manufactured the kid.Now I have realized that electronic design work is mostly sitting on the computer anyway, and when prototyping in lab, you have to prototype with parts that would go into production, so can't really use any random crap anyway. And components are dirt cheap. So just order the parts for the project, nothing more nothing less. Then they stay in the Digikey/mouser cardboard box, one box per project, you can write the project name on the box. Pretty self-organizing with near-zero effort.And if I truly need something, I probably can find some hoarder who has it. It's good we have hoarders, but I don't want to be one anymore.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 12:20:20 pm
content: Another category: the pragmatic hoarderHoards what will be needed sooner or later anyway, saving a trip to the store or shipping costs, and no waiting time for the delivery. Might keep some spare parts which will become more expensive or even unoptanium in the future.

author: mendip_discovery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 12:48:09 pm
content: Quote from: madires on August 25, 2024, 12:20:20 pmWhen working on a motorcycle I tend to make a note of parts needed for the next session, order them and keep them in a box of new parts and then when I have time and enthusiasm to fit them I get that bike out and fit. If I don't have the parts I then have to order them and wait for them to get here only for me not to be in the mood or have time for it. The only issue with this method is I get onto other projects and take a long time to come back to it.

author: georges80
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 05:20:56 pm
content: I prototype designs I do and will order the standard 10 piece cut tape (for a few extra and often cheaper if you need 3 or 4 anyway. I order more of the parts that I know I'll use again, jellybean R's and C's etc.I keep the parts for a proto in a labeled shoebox and the protos that don't get shipped to the customer for evaluation end up in the shoebox along with any programming/test fixtures.Then time passes (year or two or ...) and the shoebox contents have been 'maturing' on the shelf. I eventually go through the shoebox and move anything that "could come in handy" to an appropriate catch-all shoebox.More time passes... the "didn't come in handy" stuff eventually makes it into a "if hell freezes over, may be needed" box. That box then gets donated via a posting on this forum or to an up and coming young hoarderBeing in the US and having access to Mouser and Digikey parts within a few days, makes long term hoarding unnecessary.I had to clean out a lab/office and storage of a company I started working at about 18 months ago. It was mind boggling the stuff that had accrued - it was worse than a junk store/warehouse. Huge amounts of stuff into e-waste - pallets and pallets. It took weeks to get through the junk and so much was brand new bags of parts that "could come in handy". It was barely possible to walk down a narrow path in the lab (at least 500 sq.ft). Workspaces were overflowing with 'stuff' with tight walk 'trails'- no way it could ever pass any safety inspection.The urge to bring some of it home was high, but from past experience I knew that it was necessary to resist and be very clinical with the whole process. I also found that complete reels of discretes had dried out so much that touching the leader tape would have the adhesive layer let go and parts would be spilling everywhere.I don't have any old laptops, drives, test equipment etc. Test equipment is relatively modern with LCD etc - no boat anchors and not multiple units that provide no 'unique' benefits. No databook library and anything I'm ever likely to need is in PDF on the web. I do 'hoard' PDF data sheets - but only since they live in the project folders so I have access to the version that was used during the design process. I can then compare publication date with the latest in case there was a correction and I based part of the design on a datasheet error.I'm well past 60, and have evolved to utilize new tech and just look back on the "good old days" as the "mostly simple/primitive days"Give me SMD and 1 week turn PCB's any day vs point-point soldering an 8080 veroboard or wire-wrapping z80/dram etc.cheers,george.

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 05:28:10 pm
content: Recovered hoarder. I still hate throwing things out and still have drawers of unopened or barely touched devkits. But I've gotten more ruthless with throwing out old projects and prototypes, never missed one yet.I do wish there were some sort of "goodwill store" where you could send all the stuff that would be useful to someone but just ends up in the dumpster. Practically every engineering firm I've ever visited has tonnes of stuff lying around that's only on death row until its thrown out.

author: Siwastaja
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 06:39:26 pm
content: Quote from: madires on August 25, 2024, 12:20:20 pmI don't think that's called any type of "hoarding". It's just... sensible and normal. Hoarding by definition means extreme form of keeping stuff, most of which have near-zero change of being ever used. But sure just like most alcoholics don't think they have a problem, same with hoarders.

author: armandine2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 07:22:08 pm
content: No, I'm not a hoarder....I might be a resource investigatorhttps://www.belbin.com/about/belbin-team-roles...with lots of cold cases

author: pardo-bsso
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2024, 11:09:35 pm
content: If the available space keeps growing (like the Achilles and the Tortoise paradox), is it still considered hoarding?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 01:40:52 am
content: Assuming we step over the practical issues of that paradox ..... Where did you get a TARDIS?!!!

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 01:47:26 am
content: Most of my friends are hoarders. I told them it was a very destructive habit, and I'd help stop that bad habit. You just bring all your extra stuff to my house.

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 06:00:29 am
content: if u live in a rubik's cube, spatial awareness & storage efficacy is a must.as do not have amazon's warehouse robots. however a miniature floor to ceiling domestic robotic/ automated storage tub system would be highly desirable.if it was both available and affordable .

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 06:52:09 am
content: Quote from: jonovid on August 26, 2024, 06:00:29 amWe do have cube houses in Rotterdam, without vertical walls the amount of storage is limited

author: adinsen
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 08:03:53 am
content: I hoard ideas, projects, and the stories that go with them. I buy stuff to support those ideas and I find it hard to get rid of the stuff, I have collected and no longer use. I'm learning to save the stories and let the things go.

author: EPAIII
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 10:30:40 am
content: Considering that I still have a CK722 sitting in a bin, I had to say YES.I wonder if it is an antique yet.

author: bat
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 10:37:05 am
content: I don't think i'm a hoarder but I like to own "things"I have yet to get myself a storage unit but in the future I might get one...

author: bborisov567
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 11:08:39 am
content: I understand hoarding as when you actually need something but you cannot find it because of all the stuff you have accumulated and you just end up buying a new one.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 12:29:05 pm
content: Quote from: bborisov567 on August 26, 2024, 11:08:39 amThat is only for the unorganized hoarder. The ones with ocd have a system in place to know where everything they own lies.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 12:38:35 pm
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on August 26, 2024, 12:29:05 pmI keep a spreadsheet with storage box IDs and a list of junk in each.For the vintage computer stuff, it's itemized with descriptions, provenance, work done, condition, and serial numbers.I think it also helps with the urge to get more, I just read the list and like... that's enough now.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 01:41:11 pm
content: Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on August 26, 2024, 12:38:35 pmMy system is not there yet.Most of my old crap is in boxes with labels on them to list what is in the box, but that is a bit global. Not itemized so when I need something I still have to look in the box. But it is not that much anymore. All the old computers (<Pentium 3) are gone. It is power supplies, relays, old components, floppy drives, etc. what is in the boxes.The stuff I buy is only new stuff for project ideas that come up, and ends up in a box with a label, so at least I can find it again.Just returned to an old project that needs finishing. A STM32F303 with a PCM1808 and a PCM5102 module attached to it. Why, because I ordered a couple extra PCM1808 and PCM5102 modules from Aliexpress that need testing when they come in. It is a way of dealing with procrastinating. Force myself to write the software needed to test the new modules.Edit: Added some pictures. The scope shows the output of the PCM5102 module, while it also generates the signals going into the PCM1808 module.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 04:35:11 pm
content: Bagging and tagging is also important. Quick, what's in here?

author: Postal2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 07:46:28 pm
content: Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on August 26, 2024, 04:35:11 pmThis is mine.

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2024, 10:47:02 pm
content: Quote from: bookaboo on August 25, 2024, 05:28:10 pmSounds like a new section for the buy/sell forum category. Post it here and someone will probably be interested...yes you will probably just be transferring it to another hoarders collection but at least it's off your hands :⁠-⁠)

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2024, 07:09:45 am
content: Yep, sheds full of stuff.However moved some stuff on recently to make room for stock......

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2024, 07:36:11 pm
content: Quote from: bborisov567 on August 26, 2024, 11:08:39 amThat is one of the side effects c.q. symptoms.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2024, 07:51:38 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 25, 2024, 09:33:50 amIn the words of the late George Carlin, "Have you noticed that their stuff is shit and your shit is stuff?"

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2024, 08:21:38 pm
content: Quote from: langwadt on August 27, 2024, 07:51:38 pmGeorge Carlin Talks About "Stuff"CappyNJ

author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2024, 08:55:50 pm
content: Here is my serious contribution to this thread:1) I am 54 years old and I have started to think about all the tech gear I own and what will happen with it afterwards. The thought came after reading about people concerned with this and about people having to dispose all stuff they inherited from their parents. So yes, it does worry me a bit, as I don't want to be leaving a burden on my daughter.2) Am I a hoarder? I would say no. I do collect vintage computers and TV/CATV/SAT field meter. Also, I own lots of technical stuff, from HIFI gear, to computers, including a good collection of game consoles. However, I don't collect newspapers, garbage, etc. And I do have space to have everything stored properly, so that a visitor would not necessarily notice my collections, except for my home office work space, which is crammed with screens, computers, broadcast reception, distribution and transmission stuff, etc.3) All the stuff I own is in working order (with some few exceptions). Most stuff is used occasionally, if not to at least to switch it on/off and charge the batteries or do some maintenance.4) I do have space to store everything. I live in a big house. I have a flat (rented) that has a private garage where I keep a lot of stuff (including furniture and things from my late parents - these things I keep for sentimental reasons and because I might need the furniture to equip the flat, once the current tennant leaves). I also own a holiday finca with even more space.Now here is my reasoning:I could call some guys who would take everything from the garage for free and leave the garage empty. This could be done in a matter of 1-2 weeks. Since I don't need the garage (flat is rented and the garage is painful to access with a big a car like mine), I prefer to keep the stuff, in case I need it (and knowing it could be sent away easily). Especially the furniture.All my collections (vintage computers, calculators, consoles and test equipment) give me joy.The finca, though it requires much maintenance (big garden), gives me joy and keeps me busy in my free time.Yes, I could sell it, I could throw everything away and/or sell my collections. But then what? Enjoy an empty home? What would I do in my free time?If/when I pass away, I intent to leave enough wealth to my daughter, so that she won't mind the trouble of getting rid of the stuff. Some might be worthless by then, but other stuff will be quite valuable. She won't have to pay to get rid of it, she might actually make money out of it.And the finca? I expect it to continue to raise in value. Apart from being a nice holiday place or place to spend retirement in, it is an investment like any other. Perhaps shares can raise more in value (or not), but you cannot spend the weekend inside the shares...Conclusion:What is a hoarder?Is it like those TV shows, where the whole flat is crowded with garbage, boxes and newspaper? If so, I am not a hoarder.Is it like me, who keeps all his mobile phones, who collects calculators and consoles, etc.? I know I can only use one at a time and after having an hp 50G and a hp Prime, what's the point of having more calculators? Well, I simply enjoy having them and playing with them, seeing how they work, etc.Is it wrong to be the second type of hoarder (like myself)?Perhaps. The reasonable thing would be to get rid of all unnecessary items in my home. All that is not used, could be sold or disposed of. That would be the rational approach.Also, why live in a big home? Why have a garden (when you can go to a park and spare yourself the gardening work)? Why have more than one computer? Etc.I have friends who maximise all expenditures so that they get maximum tax benefits. They will use all opportunities to save money and sell any item, like a smartphone, when replacing it with a new one. And they are rational with everything else they own (house, car, etc.).BUT: I wonder if they are happier? Where is the joy and emotion if you only follow reason?I for one, prefer to have my stuff. I still own my first computer I got when I was 12 (1982): a ZX81. And it works! I still have my first C64 and its periferals. Do I use it? No. But I still own it. It means a lot to me, it has a history and it shaped the person who I am today. Many other things I own or would like to own shaped me (like the Epson HX-20 I used at a deparment store in 1983 onwards - if I had a good deal on one, I would buy one, just because). And I like to have a big house with lots of space and rooms.If this is "hoarding" as in a mental disorder, so be it. It makes me happy.BTW: I started to buy second hand vintage and antiques from flee market and then I restore it. Like for instance a grocery scale. These items go to my finca, where they thematically fit the decoration. The rule is: it has to be in full working order.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2024, 10:38:15 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on August 26, 2024, 06:52:09 amI visited those a few weeks ago. Only an architect from hell can design a home which is so impractical. AFAIK these are cheap rental homes for people with low income nowadays; some refuse those houses due to impracticality.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2024, 10:55:29 pm
content: I could not understand what it means a cube house with no vertical walls?...So i went and googled it...And I was like - is a shortage of mental health practitioners down there in Rotterdam ?

author: all_repair
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2024, 02:25:28 am
content: First half hoarding, second half supposed to be throwing, so my children don't end up throwing everything and know whats left behind are treasure. Way over second half now, and you guys please stop keep recommending, doing unboxing and doing teardown

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2024, 03:13:05 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on August 27, 2024, 10:55:29 pmYou can see it as art, most artist fall in the same category

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2024, 03:28:38 pm
content: Sometimes, being a hoarder yields some unexpected treasures.Look what my son found on his in-laws basement; check out the newspaper’s date:

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2024, 08:07:25 pm
content: I save odd-ball mechanical things, along with IC's common, like 7410, and especially Lm324 and Lm339...for many years.Radio Shack closure influenced some increase in that.How about asking: "What interesting / unusual things saved".Unfortunately, some folks maybe save something GROSS, like hair or teeth...or worse. But that's pathological hoarding.I noticed a fellow, pretty much a loner, kept so much paper and crap on the kitchen table, you could glance, at the single chair, and start reducing that the hoarding behavior served as an isolation tool...; literally discouraging any company, at that table...quite clearly.The rest of that individual's house, was filled with things like; multiple boxes, containing more multiple boxes.Also, multiple plastic food containers, each stuffed with things like plastic lids, I mean; to obvious excess.Multiple glass 'jugs', some with half full of water, and things like '16' egg-crates, just stacked up, there.I spent some number of days, there, and casual assumption is, the clutter has some protective effects, or intents, in maybe twisted logic, but most therapists might say those 'junky' items play a crucial part, of the person's defense mechanism, even if might seem strange.

author: Homer J Simpson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2024, 02:15:50 am
content: Check this out...

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 01, 2024, 03:00:48 am
content: Hoarder? No.Collector of valuable vintage computers/part? Yes, absolutely.I see it as no different to people who collect coins, stamps etc... My collection just takes up a lot more room.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2024, 01:06:10 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on September 01, 2024, 03:00:48 amThere's a difference between an amateur museum curator and a true hoarder.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2024, 02:59:18 pm
content: Quote from: schmitt trigger on August 29, 2024, 03:28:38 pmThis is hoarding?... THIS is hoarding!https://hansonsauctioneers.co.uk/suffering-of-british-families-with-loved-ones-on-titanic-revealed-by-newspaper-found-in-wardrobe-after-112-years/

author: KrudyZ
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2024, 03:48:15 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on September 01, 2024, 02:59:18 pmSince this clearly must have been passed down generations, we should all warn our children of this genetic trait they are carrying...

author: armandine2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2024, 12:28:27 pm
content: https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/community-safety/310-community-safety-features/49676-hoarding-when-clutter-becomes-anti-socialIf you are a hoarder/collector and are in social housing, you may want to (re)consider your position

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2024, 02:28:55 pm
content: Daughter sent me this, even though I am not a hoarder. Oh no. Definitely not.

author: RAPo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2024, 03:03:37 pm
content: It depends on who you ask. My pirl says yes, definitely. Personally, I say no and point to some real hoarders.