E30 is here and I'm confused on the upgrading process - Page 1
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author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2019, 03:25:06 pm
content: E302.23.1449001-1801So my new to me E30 arrived. All works great. I played with RNDIS, WinSCP and backed up all the files on the unit. I understand there are a couple ways to upgrade these and have read nearly every post, but still have a couple questions.I found the EZCCRC01 program and ran it with my serial number. It created the e8.cfg file and I believe I can either use WinSCP or the FlirNetInstall.exe to "run" the file (once renamed to .fif, yes? Will this e8.cfg file work on the E30? I have seen some posts referencing the name change in a config file (e30 to e60) so not sure about that part.Does the e8.cfg file as created by EZCRC01 program enable all the gadgets such as wifi, bluetooth, etc by default? Another thread mentioned just doing minor edits to the original config (noise generator to 0, resolution to 320, zoom to whatever you choose) so just hoping to do this once and not play with it afterwards.Thanks for your patience.

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2019, 05:51:08 pm
content: I'm not sure that an E8 cfg will work for an Exx. I found it easier to just modify each individual file myself and then rerun the CRC.

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2019, 05:53:08 pm
content: Try this thread:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e40-upgrade-configuration/

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2019, 08:27:12 pm
content: Quote from: eKretz on January 25, 2019, 05:51:08 pmOK...so then I can just take the e8.cfg and pull the last 2 lines out for the CRC and serial, add them to my edited (backed up and copied) config.d file and ftp it back into the unit?

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2019, 08:40:54 pm
content: Quote from: av8r on January 25, 2019, 08:27:12 pmLooks like that idea is a no-go as the CRC will be different on the E30 config.d file. So I grabbed the old crc01.exe, ran it after I edited a copy of my config.cfg, take the CRC and add it to the end of the file minding the CRF, etc. and then save and ftp this file back into the unit, power off, pull the battery , cold boot and all should be good to go?Thanks!

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2019, 09:02:31 pm
content: Quote from: av8r on January 25, 2019, 08:40:54 pmYou are editing the conf.cfg files, right? Because the config.d is a folder...

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2019, 09:22:45 pm
content: Quote from: eKretz on January 25, 2019, 09:02:31 pmYes...typo. Corrected! Thanks

author: eKretz
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timestamp: January 25, 2019, 10:48:06 pm
content: K, other than that yup.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2019, 10:51:03 pm
content: Quote from: eKretz on January 25, 2019, 10:48:06 pmPerfect. Thank you. Wish me luck...or skill...or something...

author: bonzoxxx
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2019, 11:35:07 pm
content: I'm unlocking my e30bx MK1, the older one with camera and flashlight covered, i'm following this guide:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg561266/#msg561266Mine works almost good, I'm messing around looking why there isn't any crossair and I cannot even add a new one.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 01:13:45 am
content: I also read Gustavo's posts and felt it was one of the better as far as step by step for what I'm doing.Thank youI did see another guy had the crosshair disappear. Electrotuna maybe?

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 02:47:01 am
content: Well, resolution worked fine, but lost the crosshair, no wifi/BT and I believe I lost another left side menu icon (can't remember what was there for sure)I editedconfig.d/conf.cfgui.d/conf.cfgservices.d/conf.cfgUnit booted up fine after battery removal, etc. I'm guessing I missed something?Is editing confkit.rev to reflect E 60 (Mine says E30_B 1.1) required?Thanks

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 03:04:41 am
content: Edited confkit.rev to E60edited services.d/conf.cfg to match E60No crosshair, no wifi/BT, menus missing, etc. Resolution and noise are great.no joy.Any ideas?

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 04:53:22 am
content: These are the paths you should be editing:\FlashFS\system\ui.d\config.d\conf.cfg\FlashFS\system\appcore.d\config.d\conf.cfg\FlashFS\system\services.d\config.d\conf.cfgIf you edited correctly, maybe you have a CRC issue. Double check spacing etc.If that looks good, for the crosshair (spot) issue, double check these lines in the ui.d conf.cfg and make sure they are the same as this:.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.spot.enabled bool true.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.spot.enabled bool trueRemember to re-run the CRC if you make any changes.Your other missing items sound like incorrect editing of the conf.cfg files to me.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 03:25:11 pm
content: Quote from: eKretz on January 26, 2019, 04:53:22 amYep, thanks. To confirm, I am editing the files at the paths stated.My ui.d\conf.cfg does not have either of those lines in the backups or the edited files (edited from the backup I pulled from the camera)I may just put the old files back and ensure the camera will operate as before, then edit one item at a time to see what happens.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 03:34:16 pm
content: My ui.d\conf.cfg file from the camera (backup)## Generated at 2011-09-16 15:15:22#.caps entry.caps.config entry.caps.config.name text "GUI E30_B".caps.config.revision text "1.1".caps.config.IIG entry.caps.config.IIG.enabled bool true.caps.config.IIG.DC int32 1.caps.config.IIG.IR int32 1.caps.config.IIG.canvasSketches int32 0.caps.config.IIG.IRImageSketch bool false.caps.config.IIG.DCImageSketch bool false.caps.config.IIG.textAnnotations int32 0.caps.config.IIG.videos int32 0.caps.config.IIG.voiceAnnotations int32 0.caps.config.IIG.objects int32 1.caps.config.image entry.caps.config.image.enabled bool true.caps.config.image.adjust entry.caps.config.image.adjust.enabled bool true.caps.config.image.adjust.auto bool true.caps.config.image.adjust.interval bool true.caps.config.image.adjust.above bool false.caps.config.image.adjust.below bool false.caps.config.fusion entry.caps.config.fusion.enabled bool false.caps.config.fusion.thermal entry.caps.config.fusion.thermal.enabled bool false.caps.config.fusion.thermal.auto bool false.caps.config.fusion.thermal.interval bool false.caps.config.fusion.thermal.above bool false.caps.config.fusion.thermal.below bool false.caps.config.fusion.PIP entry.caps.config.fusion.PIP.enabled bool false.caps.config.fusion.PIP.locked bool false.caps.config.laser entry.caps.config.laser.enabled bool true.caps.config.laser.positionMarker bool false.caps.config.measure entry.caps.config.measure.enabled bool true.caps.config.measure.emissivityTable entry.caps.config.measure.emissivityTable.enabled bool true.caps.config.measure.externWindow entry.caps.config.measure.externWindow.enabled bool true.caps.config.measure.localObjectParams entry.caps.config.measure.localObjectParams.enabled bool false.caps.config.measure.screening entry.caps.config.measure.screening.enabled bool false.caps.config.mode entry.caps.config.mode.enabled bool true.caps.config.mode.program bool false.caps.config.mode.panorama bool false.caps.config.mode.video bool false.caps.config.mode.radiometricVideo bool false.caps.config.menu entry.caps.config.menu.enabled bool true.caps.config.menu.presets bool false.caps.config.save entry.caps.config.save.enabled bool true.caps.config.save.simultaneous bool true.caps.config.save.fastShoot bool false.caps.config.report entry.caps.config.report.enable bool false.caps.config.report.createPdf bool false# ID 49202006# CRC01 c9169df7

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 03:47:13 pm
content: Found the lines you mentioned in appcore.d\conf.cfgThis is from the original, backed up file from my camera..caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers entry.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.enabled bool false.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.spot entry.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.spot.enabled bool false.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.spot.maxCount int32 0.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.arrow entry.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.arrow.enabled bool true.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.arrow.maxCount int32 0.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.box entry.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.box.enabled bool false.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.box.maxCount int32 0

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 04:23:50 pm
content: Ok, so I started from scratch. Put everything back and camera worked fine, crosshairs in place, etc.Edited only these 2 lines in appcore.d\conf.cfg:.caps.config.image.settings.resIR int32 320.caps.config.image.targetNoise.targetNoiseMk int32 0Resolution is 320 and noise is gone, but lost the crosshair and tools menu is empty save for "Remove all tools" or something like that.I changed the noise to 5, same problems.Changed resolution back to 160, same problems.Pretty confusing.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 05:28:16 pm
content: ok...not sure what to make of this, but restarted the camera just now and I have a crosshair (at about the 10:00 position), zoom to 4X available (this isn't enabled in the conf files now) tools menu is all back, spot temp works again.wtf?

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 05:39:41 pm
content: Dunno, but if it's working, run with it. Maybe your first restart didn't take. I really don't like pasting in other people's files - for exactly the reason that you saw - errors/omissions, whatever. By the time you go through to check everything, might just as well edit your own.

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 05:51:03 pm
content: To edit your own, just look at the entries to get an idea of what they do and change the false to true on whatever you want to use. Compare your entries to a modified file you got from someone else or just experiment on your own. Don't forget to re-run the CRC and after uploading the files make sure to remove the battery to do a full restart.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 05:51:57 pm
content: Quote from: eKretz on January 26, 2019, 05:39:41 pmYa, I tried to see other's files just for comparison, but had no intention of using them in mine. I've been able to reset the crosshair to center, confirmed the images in Flirtools to be 320X240 (see attached image)I just downloaded the appcore.d\conf.cfg file from the camera and here are the pertinent lines (no others were changed from original backups):.caps.config.image.settings.resIR int32 160.caps.config.image.targetNoise.targetNoiseMk int32 5.caps.config.image.zoom.maxFactor double 1Maybe just reducing the noise to near zero causes the images to be 320X240?

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 06:02:22 pm
content: Spoke too soon. Another reboot and I'm back where I was.No crosshairs, tools menu empty, ugh. I literally only turned the thing off and back on a few minutes later.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 09:13:39 pm
content: Figured it out... I was calculating the CRC incorrectly. Resolution, Noise, Zoom, Menus, spot crosshair, tools menu now good to go.Stupid mistake.

author: bonzoxxx
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 09:51:15 pm
content: I have same issues with my e30bx, no crossair and so on, wifi e BT enabled but non usable.I'll try re-calculating the CRC

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 10:01:27 pm
content: Quote from: bonzoxxx on January 26, 2019, 09:51:15 pmI know it's been posted, but here's what I did to correct it.Open the .cfg file to be editedremove the # CRC01 XXXXXXX line and the CRLF so there is only the CRLF from the serial number line (Use notepad++ and turn on symbols to see the control characters)Edit the file, save it and calculate the CRCAdd the CRC line and one CRLFSave the fileDoneThe way I confirmed this was my issue was to use a conf.cfg file from my backup off the camera, remove the CRC line and CRLF saving the CRC number, then running crc01.exe against the file to see if it matched the CRC. Bingo.

author: bonzoxxx
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 10:12:00 pm
content: I'll tryEDIT: finally it works, there were 2 CRLF at the bottom of the file literally fu***ng the conf file, seen with notepad++ as you said.ok now I'll modify files by myself, keep posting here your progress unleashing the beast.Your camera doesn't have rbg camera and flashlight covered right? I'm drilling right now holes for mine.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 10:23:03 pm
content: Quote from: bonzoxxx on January 26, 2019, 10:12:00 pmCorrect. Mine has all that exposed, but I fear mine doesn't have the wifi/bt hardware installed based on what I saw in the service menu. I've read that the "B" version E30 may lack this. Not a huge deal, but I'd like to play with it.I've since been able to enable the Fusion and PiP menus, but I was unable to check the boxes to actually use them. I'm editing the ui.d\conf.cfg file now trying to get this to work.

author: bonzoxxx
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 10:34:18 pm
content: Very good, I'll post here my updatesThanks for the CRLF tip

author: bonzoxxx
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 10:58:01 pm
content: A little "before and after" of me reflected on the window, first is stock, second with full res and disabled noise.But WHY there is a kind of artificial noise..

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 11:05:28 pm
content: Artificial noise allowed Flir to sell the same units, for very different prices. They simply crippled the less expensive units with software. A very deceitful thing to do in my opinion.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 11:19:23 pm
content: I was able to get the video working. I used the ui.d\conf.cfg file from Igustavocampos's E30_Hack.zip file. I installed the compare plug-in into Notepad++ and just turned the "0" to "1" for video and "false" to "true" for a bunch of things including the video stuff. I don't get a red "recording" dot on the screen, but I do get the timer at the bottom so, good enough.Still can't enable the Fusion or PiP buttons. They're there, but can't turn them green....

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2019, 11:38:24 pm
content: Still can't get Fusion to enable.I was able to get the WiFi and Bluetooth menu options enabled and I can add an SSID, key, encryption, etc. but it does nothing. No hardware I guess. Boo hoo.Now that I have this thing all pepped up, I may sell it and buy a newer E40 to hack and get all the extras.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2019, 01:19:01 am
content: Fusion is working now. Had to edit appcore.d\conf.cfg in the framegrab section.Figured out why zoom wasn't working. I had enabled the X4, but not the entry in the conf.cfgNot much else left that I'm aware of, but I'm going to work through the false or 0 notated sections and see what else I can enable.

author: cuda12
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2019, 02:59:54 am
content: Now that you have a good feel for how to work with the files and the CRC thing that is usually the biggest cause of problems, look for the e30 final files Fraser did to his e30 it will enable 99% of what is available that actually works and will enable things that where not even available on the stock e60. His entries remove the BT option but if you don't have the hardware it does not matter.

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2019, 05:00:04 am
content: Remember when calculating the new CRC the old one should be removed first. That seems to be the problem av8r was having.

author: av8r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2019, 03:36:53 pm
content: Quote from: eKretz on January 27, 2019, 05:00:04 amExactly the problem. Once I realized the CRC I calculated for the unedited, backup files didn't match what was in them the light bulb lit up...dimly...

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2019, 05:49:47 pm
content: Easy mistake to make when you're doing this for the first time. When I researched modding my E40 there were lots of posts from guys doing the same thing and having similar problems.

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2019, 09:40:35 pm
content: Quote from: bonzoxxx on January 26, 2019, 10:58:01 pmThat's not artificial noise on your upgraded image, that's the real live stuff. When you set a very low temp span you're going to get some noise.

author: bonzoxxx
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timestamp: January 28, 2019, 01:16:58 pm
content: Are these file somewhere in the forum?

author: bonzoxxx
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2019, 11:41:08 pm
content: Ok the thermocam is almost completely unlocked, my only concern is about wifi and bluetooth: the hardware is present because I can see other wireless network but when I try to connect the system freezes. Any idea?