2ch 200MHz 2GSa/s Scopes.... - Page 1
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timestamp: July 16, 2013, 03:27:19 am
content: Just for fun, having 2nd thoughts about spending $$$ on a Bad Ass Scope...Owonhttp://www.owon.co.uk/Rigol Ds2202http://www.tequipment.net/RigolDS2202.htmlInstek GDS-2202Ahttp://www.tequipment.net/InstekGDS-2202A.htmlBK Precision 2556http://www.tequipment.net/BK2556.htmlUNI-T UTD-4202Chttp://uni-trend.com/UTD4202C.htmlSiglent CFL Serieshttp://www.siglent.com/en/product/detail.aspx?id=100000004399111&nodecode=119008001http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/63043/Siglent_SDS1202CFL.phpAgilent DSOX2022Ahttp://www.testequity.com/products/3676/http://www.metrictest.com/product_info.jsp?mfgmdl=HP%20DSOX2022A(N)http://www.newark.com/agilent-technologies/dsox2022a/dsox-series-oscilloscope-200mhz/dp/21T9319Rohde&Schwarz HAMEG HMO2022http://www.hameg.com/0.616.0.htmlhttp://www.hameg.com/fileadmin/user_upload/downloads/dblatt/HAMEG_Overview_HMO_HOO_EN.pdfhttp://webstore.rohde-schwarz.com/us/hamegr-hmo2022.htmlTektronix DPO2022B & TDS2022Chttp://www.tek.com/oscilloscope/mso2000-dpo2000http://www.tek.com/oscilloscope/tds2000-digital-storage-oscilloscopehttp://www.tequipment.net/TektronixDPO2022B.htmlhttp://www.tequipment.net/TektronixTDS2022C.aspLeCroy WaveAce 222http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Teledyne-LeCroy/WaveAce-222/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvAbnEMxb34PUlbC4fWX7u7http://www.amazon.com/LeCroy-WaveAce-222-Oscilloscope-Interleaved/dp/B0094JXAMILeCroy WaveJet 322Ahttp://www.digikey.com/product-detail/es/WAVEJET%20322-A/WAVEJET%20322-A-ND/2796140http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Teledyne-LeCroy/WaveJet-322-A/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvAbnEMxb34Pc8raUQOiYb7http://www.amazon.com/LeCroy-WaveJet-322A-Oscilloscope-Interleaved/dp/B0094JXGI6Advantages/Disadvantages:RigolDS2202UltraVision50,000 wfs/s14Mpts, Optional Memory up to 56Mpts.500uV/div to 10V/div2ns/div to 1000s/div8 inch TFT (800x480) WVGACAT I 300 Vrms, CAT II 100 Vrms3.9 kg$1626.usd.InstekGDS-2202AVPO (Visual Persistence Oscilloscope),80,000 wfm/s2Mega Point Memory Depth for Half-channel,Segmented Memory.1mV /div~10V/div1ns/div to 100s/div8 inch 800*600 High Res TFT LCD Displayeasy conversion from a DSO into a MSO3MHz option DDS generator: Sine, Triangle and Square.optional LAN/SVGA Interface module and GPIB interface module.300V (DC+AC Peak), CAT I4.2kg$1382usd.OwonMSO8202T7.8 inch color LCD display (8") TFT screen, 640×480 pixels.2mV/div-10V/div1ns/div-100s/div steps 1-2-56000 points on each channel.Record length: 2M for Oscilloscope, 4M for LA16 optional logic inputshttp://shop.owon.co.uk/mso8202t-18-p.asp£895.€1,034.62OwonSDS82021ns/div-100s/div, step by 1-2-58-inch color TFT LCD, 800x600 pixelsRecord length: 10M points per channelhttp://www.shop.owon.co.uk/sds-8202-22-p.asp£625.€722.50BK Precision 25561M & 50ohm input couplingCertificate of Calibration2mV/div-10V/div (1-2-5 order)2.5ns/div–50s/div7 in. Color TFT, 480 x 234 resolution, 64K color.24 kpts.400V (DC+AC PK-PK, 1 Mohm input impedance, X10) CAT I,5Vrms (50ohm input impedance)Approx. 9.5 lbs (4.3 kg)$1515usd.UNI-TUTD-4202C2mV ~ 5V/div1024k5.7 inchesLogic AnalyzerCurrent-to-Voltage Convertor module13.7kg?$1190usd.SiglentSDS1202CFL24Kpts7’’color TFT-LCD 480 horizontal by 234 vertical pixels, 64K color, 150:1, 300nit2.5KG1M 13pF, 50ohm1.0nS/DIV - 50S/DIV / 2.5ns/div-50s/div2mV-5V/div(1-2-5 order)±400V(DC+ACPk-Pk), CAT I, CAT IIAlternative Trigger4.3kg-4.5kg$1795usd.AgilentDSOX2022AInfiniiVision50,000 waveforms/s100 kpts2 mV/div to 5 V/div** ** 2 mV/div is a magnification of 4 mV/div setting. For vertical accuracy calculations, use full scale of 32 mV for 2 mV/div sensitivity setting.?2 ns/div to 50 s/div8.5-inch WVGA 800(H)x480(V) pixel with 64 levels of intensity grading?300 Vrms, 400 Vpk, more with other probes.25 ppm ±5 ppm per year (aging)Capture glitch as narrow as 500 ps at all timebase settings12 bits when ? 20 ?s/divAveraging from 2 to 65,536Option WaveGen 20MHz Sine, 10MMHz SQR, 100khz ramp/triangle +$511usd.Option Segmented Memory +$307usd.Option Mask limit testing +$307usd.Option 8-ch MSO $731usd.Option 1M Memory Upgrade $200usd.Option Educators Kit +$511usd.Option LAN/VGA module, +$404usd. GPIB module +$511usd., *Only one module may be used at a time.Option 3-Digit Volt Meter +$76usd.Option Automotive Serial Triggering and Analysis +$500usd.Option advanced FFT frequency domain analysis Visualizer (ASV) Software $500usd.built-in storage compartment3.85kg-4.08kg$2,215usd.Rohde&Schwarz HAMEGHMO20222,000 wfs/s1 Mohm/50ohm1 mV/div....10 V/div.200 Vpk @ 1M2 MPts.6.5 inch 640x480Option 8-ch Mixed Signal 1 GSa/s, 1 MPts.2.5 kg$2,660usd.TektronixTDS2022C2 GS/s Sample Rate on both Channels.10X oversampling on all channels,2.5k point Record Length on both Channels.2 mV to 5 V/div.2.5 ns to 50 s/div5.7 in. (144 mm) Active TFT Color Display, Unkown Resolution.300 VRMS CAT II; derated at 20 dB/decade above 100 kHz to 13 Vp-p AC at 3 MHzLifetime Warranty *1 Limitations apply.2kg.$1870usd.TektronixDPO2022BDigital Phosphor Oscilloscope Technology "real-time intensity grading"1 GS/s Sample Rate on All Channels.1 Megapoint Record Length on All Channels5,000 wfm/s Maximum Waveform Capture Rate.2 mV/div to 5 V/div2 ns to 100 s300 VRMS with peaks ? ±450 V7 in. (180 mm) Widescreen TFT-LCD Color Display, 480 horizontal × 234 vertical pixels (WQVGA).Option Serial Triggering and AnalysisFive-year warranty3.6kg.$2280usd.LeCroyWaveAce 2229 kpts/Ch5.7” Color, 320x2402 mV/div–5 V/div2.5 ns/div–50 s/div1 MOhm–400 V Pk, 5 Vrms (50 Ohm)2.3kg.$2100usd.LeCroyWaveJet 322A3600 wfms/s with Replay7.5" Color flat-panel TFT-LCD, 640 x 480 VGA500 kpts/Ch (all channels)500us at 1GS/s, 250us at 2GS/s.2GS/s interleaved (single-shot)2 mV/div–10 V/div2 ns/div–50 s/div400V CAT I10 ppm (typical)3.2kg$4050usd.---------------------------------------------Agilent & Rigol have the same Screen Resolution, Agilent .5" bigger 800x480.Siglent CFL, BK Precision 2556 & Tek DPO2022B have similar or the same 7" screen 480x234 resolution, 64K Color Display.Owon SDS8202 & Instek GDS2202A have same 8" 800x600 Display resolution.UNI-T UTD-4202C & LeCroy WaveAce 221 have the smallest 5.7" screen size, LeCroy 222 has 320x240, the Uni-T is Unknown, but probably the same.Owon MSO 7.8" 640×480 pixels, has a 3rd Place in this shotout, LeCroy 322A, Hameg same resolution, but LeCroy has 7.5" and R&S Hameg has 6.5".Both Rigol & Agilent have the same wfm/s 50.000 ("2nd place")Instek has 1st Place true >80.000wfm/s.Tektronik DPO has 3rd Place, LeCroy WaveJet 322A has 4th Place, and R&S Hameg the 5th Place.According to Dave Owon SDS Review, the SDS9302 has 35wfm/s, Uni-T, Siglent CFL & BK Precision are Unknown...Rigol has most sensittive Vertical/div .5mV, Instek has 2nd Place 1mV, most others have 2mV "3rd Place."***Instek has Segmented Memory, Agilent is optional +$307usd.Higher Price seems directly proportional to a lower/stable ppm.Rigol has the 1st Place in Memory, Owon SDS8202 2nd Place, Owon MSO8202T 3rd Place, Instek, Tek DPO, R&S Hameg share 4th place with 2Mpoints/channel, Uni-T 5th place if web specifications are right*, Agilent 6th place* but can be upgraded to a 5th place 1M memory +$200usd, LeCroy 322A has 5th place 500kpoints/ch, Siglent & BK Precision sharing the 6th Place 24Kpts, LeCroy WaveAce222 9kpts has 7th place, Tek TDS 2.5k has the last Place.Question is: Segmented Memore could rival Rigols Big Memory?Memory is that important?When Memory becomes important?Memory vs. wfm/s ? wfm/s wins most of the times.Less Buggy software/Firmware?Agilent, Instek, Tek DPO & Rigol have some kind of Analog Intensity Graded Display, Owon maybe, the others are unknown,

author: cthree
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timestamp: July 16, 2013, 03:56:50 am
content: There you go then. That's a pretty comprehensive rundown.

author: rf-loop
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timestamp: July 16, 2013, 08:14:11 am
content: You find Siglent price perhaps from one of worlds most expensive place.(without EU taxes etc)SDS1202CFL is more like well under 1k$ and note (look carefully if BK model is different or not technically - who made it?)SDS1204CFL is 4 channel and also its price is around 1k$SDS1304CFL is 4 channel 300MHz model and even it can normally buy under 1.5k$With 1795USD price you can buy bundled SDS1202CFL + SDG5000With 4 channel models you get 2 full 2GSa/s channels if only 2 channel is in use.For 2 channel models one channel in use 2GSa/s and with 2 channel in use 1GSa/s per channel.CFL models have LAN as default.

author: DaveW
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timestamp: July 16, 2013, 09:12:59 pm
content: Just as I've got one in front of me,http://www.hameg.com/0.616.0.html