Melbourne auction - tomorrow [21 September 2016] - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: DTJ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2016, 01:59:19 am
content: Not sure if this has already been posted by someone:http://simulcast.hymans.com.au/lots/auction/pcb-manufacturing--electrical-testing-equipment-liquidation-auctionMantis magnifier:http://simulcast.hymans.com.au/lots/2-x-work-tables

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 20, 2016, 04:32:08 am
content: Yup, it was, yesterday, but worth the bump. Lots of interesting stuff. btw Inspection is tomorrow, bidding is Thur. I'll likely be going (seeing as we lost $5K)

author: DTJ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2016, 05:25:04 am
content: Ah, ok. I just spotted the inspection date was 21 Sept.Looks like there's some good gear.I wonder what prices it will fetch.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2016, 05:28:39 am
content: Hmm, apart from some big old PCB work gear and the mantis, just ONE scope, and a crap 20MHz one.In Melbourne. And I'm still trying to find spare time to go visit The_Kebab_Guy (9gag-ers will know) in Fairfield.

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 02:41:59 am
content: Just returned. There is a massive amount more than depicted on that URL. 100s of 1,000s components, assemblies, pcbs, entire warehouse and tool rooms,several R+D offices full of stuff, pallets of assemblies ... the pix are seriously not representative. I'm going to need a bigger car :-)

author: DTJ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 04:49:49 am
content: What was the name of the company thats closing?Edit - found it:http://www.labtam.com.au/

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 05:14:42 am
content: Quote from: digsys on September 21, 2016, 02:41:59 amDamn, why can't this be in Sydney?What are they doing with all the other stuff that's not listed?

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 07:04:47 am
content: Quote from: EEVblogneener :-)Quote from: EEVblogWhat I didn't understand is why they so LITTLE of it listed ! If you want I'll scan a copy of the list and post it, but even then there are several items thatjust say 1 pallet of stuff, and when I looked it was boxes and boxes of products, parts, tools etc Almost like they just want to dump it?I have a feeling DUET may take some? of the running projects. AND, there were really only 1/2 dozen (ie different group interests) that turned up. If that

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 07:38:12 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 21, 2016, 05:14:42 am+1Quote from: digsys on September 21, 2016, 07:04:47 am

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 08:43:55 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 21, 2016, 05:14:42 amThis is where the bargains can be had - the auctioneers just want to shift stuff and are often open to offers for oddments. Also often more than happy to let you dive any dumpsters.Can be worth hanging around til the end of sale and clearance days to clear up any leftovers - all they want is an empty building.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 09:36:39 am
content: Quote from: digsys on September 21, 2016, 07:04:47 amYes please post it.QuoteWho's DUET?

author: mairo
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 10:17:52 am
content: http://www.duet.com.au/Contract manufacturer in Melbourne

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2016, 03:28:48 pm
content: www.pbase.com/digsys/labtamSorry for delay, had a LONG day, then a fight with my HP scanner - telling me I was an illegal .. yadda yadda :-)As you can see, even on this list, many items are totally non-descriptive. They all have boxes of stuff on the pallet. There's one more chance to view8:00am - 10:00 am tomorrow

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 01:29:39 am
content: Disappointment. I got there early and it seems that the opposition has pre-bid on just about ALL of the components,R+D stuff, projects in progress, all nice equipment. Just about everything worthwhile. Just office stuff, old computers and worn toolsleft. They are doing a 2hr live session online, from 12:00 - simulcast.hymans.com.au

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 02:27:52 am
content: Quote from: digsys on September 22, 2016, 01:29:39 amAudio only. No good unless you know what the lots are already.

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 02:40:16 am
content: Quote from: BrumbyThey update the pix as each item comes up, but unless you've seen the stuff, it's a HUGE risk at the type of amounts they seem tocurrently going for. Looks like most the simulcast stuff is the expensive machines anyway, just a few cr@ppy items at the end.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 02:52:15 am
content: The table with the Mantis went for $1000.A box of solder: $360 ... no idea what's in it.A 20M workbench went begging - no bids.20MHz Goldstar oscilloscope $30 (online bid)

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 02:58:31 am
content: Ultrasonic welder: Branson 2000 IW $2600A manual sweeper for $150... and good bye to the simulcast participants!

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 03:00:59 am
content: Ridiculous prices .. the rest starting now, is very ordinary. oh well, next time

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 04:42:12 am
content: Quote from: wilfredI believe Duet has literally bought the whole kit and caboodle, including current contracts, design engineers and maybe sales and staff.They had 8-10 workers there sorting and collating everything.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 05:47:24 am
content: Quote from: digsys on September 22, 2016, 04:42:12 amSo the auction for the existing gear is cancelled?

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 06:45:28 am
content: Quote from: EEVblogNono .. a massive amount of the "best" stuff was pre-bid, but there was a LOT of other stuff still. It's a huge place.The rest was over-priced specialized machinery, heaps of furniture, office stuff, tool room stuff, lots of old tools, solder stations etcAll went way too high price.

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 06:55:20 am
content: Quote from: wilfredThey had a new owner less than a year ago, who reported making huge changes. That's all I found so far.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 08:46:15 am
content: I bought 2 x Yamaha YV100's and 1 x Yamaha YL88 machines plus a decent inventory of feeders today. :-) Very happy about that.. There was no other bids for them

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 10:29:28 am
content: the bids i put in where all under reserve, so i wasn't really bidding against myself.. we got the one you saw at $8k, plus negotiated on the other two.. As we had put in bids for them as well but they were well under the going price..All in all, i got a pretty sweet deal. Yes, we are in the business, I'm moving assembly from outsourced to in house. But no i won't be taking on making stuff for other people.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 10:31:16 am
content: Quote from: mrpackethead on September 22, 2016, 08:46:15 am

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 11:08:51 am
content: BUMMER!I missed the post, otherwise I would have been there. I know Labtam well. In fact they have manufactured some of my designs. The people there are good people, but are they closing? Their website indicates they are open for business. Labtam did some good work and had some excellent manufacturing personnel.Mr Potato Head did very well with his Yamaha placer if it is in good working order. I am jealousI wonder if anyone remembers what the name Labtam was infamous for in the 1980's.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 12:37:24 pm
content: Quote from: VK3DRB on September 22, 2016, 11:08:51 amThere was a LabTam PC in the 70's, maybe 80's. S-100 probably?

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 02:03:49 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 22, 2016, 12:37:24 pmYes - in the late 70's/80's. Try something much more powerful than S-100. Labtam designed and built some powerful computers. Such computers were classified as being illegal to export to embargoed countries like Eastern Bloc communist countries during the cold war. Let's just say Labtam computers were being smuggled into Bulgaria by a certain entity who got caught by the government. I heard the details from someone in Australia who knew what went on first hand, and this coincidentally matched a story by a Bulgarian engineer I once worked with who was at the receiving end of the contraband.The Labtam today has no employees or owners who were involved with the scandal. The company was sold decades ago and only the name remained. Those at Labtam today are ethical and are decent and talented people from my experience. I hope they are still in business.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 08:54:01 pm
content: Quote from: VK3DRB on September 22, 2016, 11:08:51 amDont' call me a vegetble.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 08:55:21 pm
content: Quote from: VK3DRB on September 22, 2016, 02:03:49 pmVery much not in business. the place will be a building shell next week.

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2016, 10:14:47 pm
content: Quote from: mrpackethead on September 22, 2016, 08:55:21 pmNot according to their website. It is illegal to trade whilst insolvent. In any case I hope the employees found decent work elsewhere. Maybe SRX Global absorbed some of them. If I recall they had a $100K AOI machine there. If someone got that for a song, they'd be very happy.

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 23, 2016, 12:15:16 am
content: From what I saw, most of the projects / employees went to Duet. They pre-bid a major amount of the "good" stuff.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2016, 02:24:43 am
content: Quote from: VK3DRB on September 22, 2016, 10:14:47 pmI'd say the web site was just prepaid and will fall off the air when nobody pays the next bill.the AOI machine did'nt sell. You'd get it for a song. This is what they had left this morning.LotQtyDescription631Extension Ladder, Unbranded, Approximately 7000mm Extended, Fibreglass931Work Bench, Grey Laminate Top on Fabricated Timber Frame, Fitted Electrical Points, Approximately 11000mm951Pallet Jack - Hydraulic, 1500Kg Capacity (Not to be removed until last day of auction pickup)1011Stock Shelf, Black Steel, Two Bay, 4 Tier MDF Shelves, 1900mm1051Allowance for Various Furniture Items - Comprising - 3 x Timber Veneer Desks - 1 x Workbench Fitted Magnification Lamp - Fabricated White Laminate Top Workbench, 1 x Filing Cabinet, 4 Drawer - 1 x Timber Veneer Credenza 1500mm1141Dishwasher - Hobart 12E - 415V, Stainless Steel, Flow Through Type, S/N: 900170711151Timber Cupboard with Quantity of Brooms etc.1161Work Bench - Vinyl Top on Black Steel Frame1182Mobile Workbench - Grey Laminate on Black Steel Frame with Back Board - 1800mm1195Bays of Blue Steel Shelving - 3 Tier1201Technicians Workbench - White Laminate on Fabricated Timber Frame - Approximately 13 metres length1541Forming Machine - Hosotec - ICF 106 - Three Purpose Machine, 240v, Cutting, Aligning and Forming, S/N: Not Visible1581Lead Trimming Machine - Hosotech HS-360 - Vibratory, 240 V, Linear Type, S/N: Not Visible1652Temperature Controller - ATC3001661Riveting System - Avdel Type727 - Mounted to Mobile Table, Foot Pedal Control, S/N: Not Visible1681Wave Soldering Machine - APS Novastar - YOM: 2011, Dual Head, 415V, Preheat Elements, S/N: 12D-LF101213681731Board Unloader - Yamaha 500-UL - YOM: 1995, 3 Magazine, 240V, S/N: Not Visible1741FloMaster- SMD 5000 Heat System1751PCB Inspection System - Saki BF Voyager - YOM: 2006, Computer Controlled, 240V, Single Panel Board Loading Capacity, Inspection Computer, S/N: Not Visible1761Stencil Printing Machine - MPM Corporation SPM-AV - 220V, Traversing Conveyor, Product Loading, 19 Inch Square Twin Inspection Cameras, Single Print Head, Screen Printing, SPM Auto Cleaner, Stencil Wiper Proview 19 Inch Monitor, S/N: 7581771Stencil Loader - Yamaha YML-100 - YOM: Approximately 1995, Glue Dispenser With Yamaha YM12D Single Dispensing Head, Product Conveyor, 900mm, S/N: K95401531, Hours : 385271811Tray Feed Machine - Yamaha YTF-100A - YOM: 2002, 240V, 100 Tray Capacity In Twin Magazines, S/N: Y9050P1821Inspection Conveyor - Panasonic, Model Not Visible - With Panasonic DVUS829W Speed Control, 600mm Width Capacity , S/N: Not Visible1851Board Unloader - Unbranded - 3 Magazine - 240v1861Semi Automatic Stencil Printing Machine - MPM Corporation - SP - 2201891Allowance for Approximately 180 Aluminium Stencils (Scrap Only)1901Feeder Cassette Storage Stand with Quantity of Spare Parts1951Workbench - White Laminate Top on Fabricated Timber Frame -1961Allowance for Furniture to Area Comprising - 1 x Timber Veneer Desk - 2 x Four Drawer Filing Cabinets - 1 x Wall Mounted Whiteboard 1800mm - 1 x Two Tier White Laminate Stand on Black Steel Frame - 5 x Various Typist Chairs - 1 x White Laminate Pigeon Ho2031White Laminate Work Bench On Casters2041Metal Six Tier Shelving Unit2072Large White Laminate Work Benches With Timber Base2201Large Fabricated Test/Work Station, Timber Surface On Metal Base, 240V Power Outlets2247Road Cases In Various Sizes2251Allowance For Furniture To Area Comprising - 1 x Whiteboard On Casters, 1 x Laminate L-Shape Desk, 4 x Dining Tables, 18 x Chairs, 5 x Lounge Chairs, 1 x Laminate Desk2261Allowance For Appliances To Area Comprising - 1 x Refrigerator Homemaker Approx. 300L, 2 x Sharp Microwaves And Drip Coffee Machine2271Allowance For Furniture To Main Reception Area Comprising 1 x Timber Table, 1 x Coffee Table, 1 x Two Seater Sofa, 2 x Laminate Desks, 4 x Desk Chairs2281Multifunction Printer, Canon IRC4080 With Automatic Load Tray2301Allowance For Furniture To Office 1 - Comprising Timber Sideboard, Laminate Desk And 2 x Office Chairs2311Allowance For I.T Equipment To Office 2 - Comprising HP Colour Laserjet 2840, Pc, 2 x Apple Imac Computers And Proview Monitor2321Allowance For Furniture To Office 2 - Comprising Laminate L-Shape Desk And 2 x Office Chairs2331Allowance For Furniture To Office 3 - Comprising Timber Desk, Desk Chair, Five Tier Shelf, Two Tier Shelf, And Two White Boards2341Allowance For Furniture To Office 4 - Comprising Timber L-Shape Desk And 2 x Office Chairs2351Allowance For Furniture To Office 5 - Comprising Timber Laminate L-Shape Desk, 2 x Office Chairs, Five Tier Shelving Unit And Pin Board2371Allowance For Furniture To Office 6 - Comprising Timber Laminate L-Shape Desk, Timber Sideboard, 2 x Office Chairs, Five Tier Shelving Unit, Timber Side Table And Two Drawer Cabinet2461Allowance For IT To Office 9 - Comprising, 3 x PC, 2 x Flat Screen Monitors, 2 x CRT Monitors And A Router2481Allowance For Furniture To Office 10 - Comprising Timber L-Shape Desk, Four Drawer Filing Cabinet, 2 x Shelving Units And 2 x Office Chairs

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 23, 2016, 02:29:05 am
content: I wouldn't mind having a sticky-beak .... except there's nothing there for me that is worth travelling from Sydney.

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 23, 2016, 04:19:55 am
content: Quote from: wilfredThe entirepackagedcomponents went in pre-bid. There are many odds and ends in some of the boxes, but it's impossible to have a clue as to what.The sad part is, many of the engineering offices had boxes of loose development boards, and their own stock and these weren't included in the LOT #s.They may just end up being scooped up dumped !! In fact, possibly everything that isn't sold may be dumped. I would have loved some of the R+D rooms.

author: DTJ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2016, 05:03:11 am
content: Quote from: digsys on September 23, 2016, 04:19:55 amSadly in my experience lots of great stuff goes into skips.Administrators just see tech parts as rubbish.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2016, 07:25:42 am
content: Quote from: DTJ on September 23, 2016, 05:03:11 amWhich is why it can be worth hanging around and talking to the people running the sale..Dumpsters cost them money - if you can clear a pile of unsold stuff for them for a nominal amount, or even free you're doing them a favour

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 23, 2016, 08:17:16 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on September 23, 2016, 07:25:42 amThat's the sort of interest I would have - but it's still too far. London to Edinburghand backis still less than the one-way drive from Sydney to Melbourne.

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2016, 09:43:02 am
content: A lot of crap leftover I guess, but I might check it out.It is sad Labtam is gone. I suspect the name Labtam is no longer associated with violating the US Table of Denial Orders.Most professional engineers involved with product export would have to be aware of the lists. Companies involved with export should ensure personnel are aware of embargoed entities. I doubt eBay vendors would even know or care, but the ramifications can be serious...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitutoyohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWB_oil-for-wheat_scandalSome countries like China leak like a sieve. There are next to no inspections of goods travelling via Dandong into the DPRK. Maybe it is because they are comrades, but more that the lust for money talks loud.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2016, 10:52:15 am
content: Quote from: DTJ on September 20, 2016, 01:59:19 am

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2017, 03:57:40 am
content: And the have a new home.

author: aargee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2017, 05:29:51 am
content: For me SWWNBA - would not. (She Who Would Not Be Amused)