Flir E4 FW 2.3 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Germanium
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 10, 2017, 10:57:10 am
content: Hello everyone,I just found an older stockpile of new (or should i call them old) Flir E4s from 2015 with the old 2.3 FW.By now i have someone who is interested in buying one (in unhacked condition though) to "upgrade" it.Unfortunately I have no idea how much I can charge for it because the ones one Ebay all come wether hacked or with the new unhackable FW.Can anyone give me a hint how much the E4 in that condition (new and unused exept for checking up the FW Version) is worth?Thanks for your helpGermanium

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 10, 2017, 12:02:12 pm
content: Such a beast has been on my wish list for some time. Unfortunately my budget is non-existent and my justification not much better. I would love to get my hands on one - but anything I could offer would be an insult.

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2017, 01:59:47 pm
content: When you say found, did you pay for themif not sell them Ex: if they are in perfect shape, not tampered, a test run is made etc etc ... say maybe 30-40% of what they are selling now ?? it's better than 0$ value ??If you ask too much, you will be stuck with them ...good luck

author: DaJMasta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2017, 08:10:55 pm
content: I've been looking at thermal cams for a few days now and there's one on ebay that insists that it's a Flir E8 even though it's an E4 and it's hacked.... they're asking $1600 US, and unsurprisingly, it hasn't sold.You may be able to sell them for a little above comparable for E4s to people who know about the software hack and are willing to try it... but honestly I don't know if it's super well known and the little bit I've read hasn't been a 100% success rate like some of the easier hacks on other equipment. Maybe if you don't have to downgrade it's fine, but a "hackable" E4 without the hack performed is still just an E4... don't expect top dollar for it, especially when there are a lot of other options in similar price brackets.Do a little research and toss out a price, that's where negotiations can start, but if you price it low enough, then they'll just agree. If you have many of them and they didn't cost you anything.... why not just sell them at a going rate for used E4s? You'd still be making good money.

author: PTR_1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2017, 09:49:36 pm
content: How many do you have?I'd be willing to pay us$400-500 for one.

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2017, 11:02:54 pm
content: Quote from: Germanium on June 10, 2017, 10:57:10 amIf you wish to sell on the forum, please provide a photo of the items for sale (without delay or excuses). Include some details in the photo so it adds some validity to your story. e.g. a photo of the found stockpile with a note saying Germanium and the date.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 11, 2017, 02:37:45 am
content: Quote from: Shock on June 10, 2017, 11:02:54 pmThis is fair comment. You are brand new to the forum and your first post is about a number of items of potentially significant value you want to sell. Especially since such items are potentially of interest to members here.We have had instances of fraud in the past - and the request from Shock is more than reasonable, if you want to offer them here.Another sign of being genuine is to provide a location. We have members from all around the world here - and it would be of benefit if there was someone close by who could drop in and check out your stockpile personally.

author: Germanium
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 11, 2017, 08:31:04 am
content: Hey everyone.I guess there has been a misunderstanding due to my bad english.I haven't found them. There is at a small local hardware store and they haven't sold them successfully for the last two years.Currently they have a sale on them so I bought two of them.Due to the fact that I only have two of them by now and want to keep one of them for me there is only one for sale.There were some more in the store but I forgot to ask how many more they have because my intention was not to make a big profit out of them.But I have a picture attached so that you can see that the camera exists.I guess that I will have to take the risk to hack them both to make at least a small profit from them.But thanks for your help so far.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 11, 2017, 08:56:06 am
content: Ah - Now things seem more reasonable. Not mentioning the stock was at a local hardware store is what caused the apprehension.I, and I'm sure several others here, would be interested in knowing where this store was!We would also be curious as to the price they were being offered.

author: Germanium
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 11, 2017, 09:18:17 am
content: I see. But I can understand the leeriness.On other (mostly german) forums I also read a lot about tried or succeeded scams.Therefore I didn't even bothered to try to sell such a high value good here as a completely new user.And the store has no online shop, so even if i would tell you which store it was you would have to go there personally to buy one.Its more an oldshool hardware store where you can buy individual screws, pipe fittings, drills ans so on.I have honestly no idea how they ever came up with the idea to sell Flir Cams for their clientele in my opinion is a completely different one.But their fault is my avail.I guess I will try the FUBAR hack and will reply if it worked.

author: PTR_1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2017, 10:29:06 am
content: What sort of price are they going for?

author: kaz911
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2017, 06:26:05 pm
content: Quote from: Germanium on June 11, 2017, 09:18:17 amJust watch out for selling them in the hacked version - Flir is not to happy about thatI know some moron's on eBay are both selling hacked versions and charging for doing the hack - but I think at some point Flir's lawyers will take a shot at them and the more cameras they have done & sold - the better the court case for lost sales.What someone does whit their OWN device is another matter and is very hard to prove loss on in European courts.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 12, 2017, 03:27:29 am
content: Germanium, with that in mind what price could you offer the E4withoutthe hack?We would expect you to make something for your effort, but we would hope that it would not be a whole lot.

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 12, 2017, 07:08:13 am
content: How are the batteries holding up after that long? Aside from being overstocked this may be another reason they were selling them cheap. Can you run them while connected to the mains? That won't be such an issue then.

author: Aodhan145
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2017, 11:54:06 am
content: Would you ship one to the UK? I would be interested in buying them.

author: Koen
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2017, 12:41:55 pm
content: Interested too.

author: Germanium
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 15, 2017, 08:46:25 pm
content: Hey Shock, the batteries are doing fine.I ran the camera for about 2.5 hours and had around 37% of the battery left and I'm not sure if I had it fully loaded.So I think they are ok.Due to several requests for buying one of the cameras I unfortunately have to say that I allready sold the other one.I can check if there is one left in the shop if someone is interessted.Also I would prefer to sell it to someone in germany because otherwise I would have to check if there are any export regulations on those cameras.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 15, 2017, 11:15:40 pm
content: The next question is one that I'm sure a few of us have wondered about.....How many does this shop have left?