Good Bye Ingenuity Mars Helicopter - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2024, 09:56:08 pm
content: Salute the fallen.What a mission.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2024, 05:21:33 am
content: Nice, but I'm waiting for some helicopter that can fly in a complete vacuum.

author: AVGresponding
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2024, 09:09:19 am
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on January 27, 2024, 05:21:33 amWhat would be the application for this, given that complete vacuum is something you only see inside laboratory experiments?

author: voltsandjolts
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2024, 09:17:28 am
content: I think it would damage my dyson.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2024, 04:17:21 pm
content: Here's the problem:

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2024, 07:48:54 pm
content: that looks like the desert it makes me think you can live there. it looks like Tunisiadoes that picture make you think extra terrestrial life is certain and common in the universe?

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2024, 10:50:17 pm
content: An old Bob and Ray comedy sketch with an interview of one of the first US astronauts to land on Mars.He had been criticized for his initial statement “It looks like my driveway in Tucson”, and wanted to set the record straight “My driveway is red”.Similarly, as tourists we visited Wadi Rum in Jordan, which was an important base for T E Lawrence in WW I and later used in movies to represent Mars.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2024, 11:51:18 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on January 27, 2024, 07:48:54 pmNope. Looks completely lifeless.They just found huge new water ice deposits. Slim but non-zero chance there.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2024, 12:10:56 am
content: but the sand and stuff is so close to what it looks like on earth and the sky looks almost identical to documentaries I have seen shot about deserts. It looks entirely to me that its just a matter of timing.Makes me think about if there was life on mars what the last creatures there were, if it had a atmosphere for a short period of time. some kind of crab like things come to mind. There is just something very earth like about that picture........ it seems like the same thing you would see to change your tire in the desert some where on earth. uncanny

author: Andy Chee
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2024, 02:46:58 am
content: If there was ever life on Mars in the past, the environmental conditions time window for such evolution to occur would be only be 100 million years or so..... way too short a time for any complex life to evolve (i.e. anything with a brain).Nevertheless, there are chemical biosignatures of life on Mars that require investigation, hence the reason for the existence of the Mars planetary science program from Viking to Pathfinder/Sojourner to Perseverance/Ingenuity.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2024, 07:30:20 pm
content: When I first heard about this project, I thought they were a bit crazy and didn't see any point. Now I think it's likely that all future Mars Rovers will be accompanied by at least one or two "Little Buddies". Good job.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2024, 09:24:38 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on January 28, 2024, 12:10:56 amThere is absolutely no way, from the picture above, to tell where it comes from indeed. No way to tell for sure that it's not been taken on Earth, for instance.There's no way to tell much of anything from a single picture anyway.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2024, 09:27:39 pm
content: normally the outer space pictures usually feel like there is something off about them

author: Andy Chee
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2024, 11:15:10 pm
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on January 28, 2024, 09:24:38 pmOne would presume that Ingenuity was roughly scouting the route ahead when it came down. If so, the Perseverance rover should eventually reach Ingenuity's location, maybe take a picture of the surroundings to examine any ground impact damage.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 29, 2024, 12:27:30 am
content: Quote from: Andy Chee on January 28, 2024, 11:15:10 pmThat would be really cool. Big PR value there.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 29, 2024, 12:28:28 am
content: Quote from: rdl on January 28, 2024, 07:30:20 pmSeems like a no-brainer.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2024, 02:33:31 am
content: One day Elon Musk steps out of his Starship at the chopper resting site and gently slides down the ladder to the dusty groundof Mars and then utter; one leap for man kind, one giant for me and then replaces the damaged prop blade! One day...sooon.

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2024, 04:33:56 am
content: The video’s parting words gave me the chills. NASA it’s once again finding its Mojo.“Make the impossible, possible. That is what we do at NASA”.

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2024, 05:21:04 am
content: This is stunningly good at first glance. And gets better when you think about it.Just what percentage of commercial RC helicopters/drones make it to 75 flights before an accident requiring repairs? With outdoor overwinter storage. My observations at local RC flying fields and around town would indicate that it is single digit or less. And it is a much easier environment.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 29, 2024, 06:10:16 am
content: Quote from: MT on January 29, 2024, 02:33:31 amDont hold your breath.

author: Black Phoenix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2024, 06:10:49 am
content: Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 29, 2024, 05:21:04 amYes but I'm certain those also doesn't cost the same that this one costs and how hand picked/tested his components must had been to endure such environment...

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2024, 06:33:24 am
content: Quote from: quince on January 29, 2024, 02:46:06 amwell shit it just means the planet is more earth like if all it takes is the same camera.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2024, 08:43:37 am
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on January 29, 2024, 06:33:24 am

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2024, 03:41:02 pm
content: I suspect that image was made in Wadi Rum, Jordan.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 03:28:27 am
content: Quote from: TimFox on January 30, 2024, 03:41:02 pmIt was.You can play pretend martian there:https://wildmanlife.com/wadi-rum-desert-camp/

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 03:42:55 am
content: Quote from: Black Phoenix on January 29, 2024, 06:10:49 amVery true. But most earthly RC helicopters/drones do not crash or stop operation because of failed components. The number one cause of mortality is operator error. With hanger rash (storage accidents) being next in line. And many are operated line of sight. None of them have any significant communications lag. Try flying your drone when you have to make all your commands and decisions several minutes to hours before the flight takes place, and you can only do your flight planning with satellite images. And where the classic earthbound response to avoid terrain etc. is to fly higher, the air at ground level on Mars is already so thin that climbing is next to impossible.I'm not ready to say that NASA has their mojo back, but I could pretty easily go along with JPL never lost theirs.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 12:42:39 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 31, 2024, 03:28:27 amThat seems like an awful lot of decking. Presumably for the sun loungers and BBQs!

author: Black Phoenix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 04:52:37 am
content: Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 31, 2024, 03:42:55 amVery true indeed. That is probably the most remarkable thing, the planning of the flights way in advance other than "we think it will go well but only when it lands safely we can say for sure since we are not sending commands live" type of feedback we are used to.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 05:10:35 am
content: Quote from: Gyro on January 31, 2024, 12:42:39 pmMAYBE a bit of a safety thing too for venomous snakes

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 11:55:29 am
content: Neither would be part of the authentic Mars experience.

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2024, 09:00:51 pm
content: And if you squint real hard, you can see an Elon Musk lookalike standing close to a Starship mock-up.