OWON HDS2102S 2CH - Page 1
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author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2024, 04:51:21 pm
content: Hello everyone, I would like to ask about OWON HDS2102S 2CH.Is it good to use or not? How? I'm very interested and would like to own one.

author: tunk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2024, 04:54:33 pm
content: There's quite a bit of discussion about the HDS200(0) series here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/owon-hds-200-handheld-oscilloscope-w-builtin-dmmawg/

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2024, 05:15:11 pm
content: Quote from: tunk on January 30, 2024, 04:54:33 pmhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1xgQMMxsRU6Fo8YkoVMHfjo47ohSRXH5f/view?usp=drive_linkI have ZOYI ZT-702s which can measure electricity in the AC220V area directly, but I'm not sure if the OWON HDS2102S 2CH can do this or not. And another thing, the FNIRSI-1014D Can't measure 220V electricity directly either. It must pass through a special 100:1 probe wire only to be able to measure directly.

author: csuhi17
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2024, 05:25:13 pm
content: Quote from: naiclub on January 30, 2024, 05:15:11 pmMax. input Voltage 400V (DC+AC, PK-PK, 1MΩ input impedance) (10:1 probe attenuation)First write down what you want to use it for.In theory, the hds300 series will come out soon, I've already seen it on Ebay.The 2202s is a bit more expensive, but there the two channels are 1-1Gsps.

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2024, 05:41:34 pm
content: Quote from: csuhi17 on January 30, 2024, 05:25:13 pmIs it this model? If so, I think it's interesting. The generator emits a sound wave of 30 mags at once. Plus it's not much more expensive than the previous model.

author: csuhi17
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timestamp: January 30, 2024, 05:52:47 pm
content: Yes.You can compare the two on Owon's own website. If I remember correctly, the HDS2202 can calculate RMS, but the ones below it cannot. However, with the HDS300, if I can see correctly, there are more automatic measurements.

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 07:49:01 am
content: Quote from: csuhi17 on January 30, 2024, 05:52:47 pm'Then I'll wait for the HDS300 model to come out first, and I'm going to sell the ZOYI ZT-702s cheaply for 40$.

author: Aldo22
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 08:22:36 am
content: I don't think these HDS300s are really new. Strange.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/owon-hds310s-(14-bit)-what/msg5015932

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 08:45:21 am
content: Quote from: Aldo22 on January 31, 2024, 08:22:36 amThe Owon HDS300 series has only detailshttps://owonna.com/downloadbut no actual product.

author: csuhi17
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 10:14:11 am
content: Quote from: naiclub on January 31, 2024, 08:45:21 amhttps://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=owon+hds+300&_trksid=m5467.l1311Fake?If you are interested, ask Owon when the hds300 will be available.

author: Aldo22
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 10:37:49 am
content: There is something strange about this series.It was announced in this forumin 2022, but I haven't seen a review or video of it yet.A non-starter?

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 11:01:32 am
content: Quote from: csuhi17 on January 31, 2024, 10:14:11 amWhy is eBay's product so expensive?

author: csuhi17
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 11:31:09 am
content: I wrote to Owon, I wonder if they will reply.The only difference I found between the HDS2202s and the HDS320s was the color and the signal generator.Naiclub Before you decide which one to buy, take a good look at their features.You didn't write what you want to use it for.As far as I know, only the HDS2202/s in the HDS200 series includes RMS, Rise Time, Fall Time, +PulseWidth and +PulseWidth automatic measurements in the oscilloscope mode.However, it also drains the battery faster, but in return it samples 1Gs per channel.In most versions, it is divided by channel. 500Ms/250Ms or 250Ms/125Ms depends on which one you buy.Quote from: naiclub on January 31, 2024, 11:01:32 amI think it's because you can't get it anywhere else, so she sells it for as much as she's not ashamed of.When I wanted to buy one from the Owon TAO3000 series, Ebay quoted me a price almost 1.5 times higher than what I would have been able to order from a store here in the EU.

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 11:58:19 am
content: Quote from: csuhi17 on January 31, 2024, 11:31:09 amI want to use it in a variety of ways. Most of my work is minor electrical appliance repair work. If possible, I want as many options as possible at a reasonable price. Is not too expensive.

author: csuhi17
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2024, 02:32:30 pm
content: It will be difficult to give a clear answer, if you look around here on the forum you can find a lot of information about them.there are tests on youtube. I have Owon and I am satisfied with it, but its knowledge is quite limited.I would have rather bought the Hantek TO1112, it can do a little better than my HDS272s. But hantek only has 250Ms sampling.

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 10:26:21 am
content: Quote from: csuhi17 on January 31, 2024, 02:32:30 pmHantek TO1112 dazzling features But I feel like it's a little too big, making it look cluttered. I want a size that isn't too big. is suitable for a small space

author: csuhi17
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 10:43:00 am
content: Quote from: naiclub on February 01, 2024, 10:26:21 amIf you mean the display.Owon's is 8.89 cmHantek's 17.78 cmAnd IF you mean the body. w*h*dHantek's 248x176x54 mmOwon's ~95x200x40 mmZEEWEII DSO3D12 is smaller

author: Aldo22
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 10:48:21 am
content: Quote from: csuhi17 on February 01, 2024, 10:43:00 amAnd relatively cheap.https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005923929699.htmlhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/another-dsodmm-zeeweii-dso3d12-claimed-120mhz250msps/msg5274556/#msg5274556

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 11:13:18 am
content: Quote from: csuhi17 on February 01, 2024, 10:43:00 amZEEWEII DSO3D12 has amazing features. It fits in the palm of your hand. Rumor has it that it has a voice command mode at an affordable price. It also has an FFT mode. The downside is that it doesn't come with an adapter.Quote from: Aldo22 on February 01, 2024, 10:48:21 amYes, it's very cheap

author: Aldo22
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 11:29:13 am
content: Quote from: naiclub on February 01, 2024, 11:13:18 amFFT is very basic with all these cheap handheld scopes. At best it gives an impression, measurements are not possible and the scale is unclear.Even the cheapest benchtop scope is way better.Quote from: naiclub on February 01, 2024, 11:13:18 amWhat kind of adapter do you mean?

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 11:39:38 am
content: Quote from: Aldo22 on February 01, 2024, 11:29:13 amThe way you said is correct. I think cheap ones might not be very accurate.It's like the FNIRSI 1014D that I have.Adapter for charging

author: Aldo22
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 12:43:13 pm
content: Quote from: naiclub on February 01, 2024, 11:39:38 amAlmost any USB charger will do.Or you can buy one for little money.

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 01:28:18 pm
content: Quote from: Aldo22 on February 01, 2024, 12:43:13 pmYes, you're right, but the seller should at least have included one. It will not be a burden for the buyer to procure in urgent cases.And in some cases, the buyer doesn't know that there is a charger included.

author: csuhi17
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2024, 02:01:44 pm
content: I'm just happy when they don't provide a cheap cable for this kind of USB stuff.A larger box is full of these cheap ones.Also with noname chargers.I have a total of 3 chargers that are approx. I use it for 20 devices...

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2024, 07:28:43 pm
content: Quote from: csuhi17 on February 01, 2024, 02:01:44 pmSeries 300 has arrived. They have posted it on the website. I'm waiting to see the appropriate price.https://www.owon.com.hk/products_hds300_series_digital_oscilloscope

author: Veteran68
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2024, 12:47:46 am
content: Quote from: naiclub on February 01, 2024, 01:28:18 pmOne of the reasons for the ubiquity of USB power/charging is precisely so that every device doesn't have to include its own charger. Even cellphones are no longer including chargers. I buy a LOT of USB powered devices and it's much less common these days for them to supply a charger in the box. You usually only get a cable, if that, and even then it's often the cheapest crap cable they can provide. The vast majority of USB power supplies and chargers that do still come with devices get tossed in a junk bin for when one of the grandkids loses or forgets their phone charger. Otherwise I have built-in and multi-port USB chargers all over the house to handle any USB power/charging needs.

author: naiclub
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2024, 07:33:45 am
content: Quote from: Veteran68 on February 03, 2024, 12:47:46 amDifferent ideas, different needs of each person. It's better if I have it than not have it. At least keep it just in case. Personally, I use a lot. It will be used with a telephone.

author: csuhi17
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2024, 10:15:42 am
content: Not to mention that the more such chargers you use at the same time, the louder the noise will be. It already gave me a headache during measurements.If you only use one or two, what's the point of the rest, they just take up space.I don't throw it away because it can still be good for something, and environmental awareness and the like...I don't charge my HDS scopes with the factory one either.I always remove the battery and use the charger I bought for this purpose.Returning to the HDS300 series. It's been up on their own site for months, and as Aldo22 wrote, it's been a topic since 2022, they haven't published it in 2 years, I can only think that they're refining the 300 by learning from the 200 series, and then at some point released after most of the bugs have been fixed. Or they were just intended for their own domestic market.You can buy it from a US seller at a very expensive price on ebay and I saw it on Aliexpress too, although his ad didn't have a long life.If I saw correctly, the TAO3000 series has not yet received an update, and neither has the HDS2202.Owon has not yet responded to my question about the HDS300.