Rigol Sales figures - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: bilko
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2011, 10:18:48 am
content: It would be interesting to know if sales for Rigol low end products, eg DS1052E have dropped, with buyers switching to Hantek and Tekway because of availability of firmware hacks / upgrades. Do these manufacturers look to maximise their market share by allowing these upgrades to take place ?

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2011, 03:58:39 pm
content: At one time, on the US website it claimed Rigol is now the #2 seller of scopes by volume or sales.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2011, 06:36:22 pm
content: I don't think the Hantek/Tekway hack has a significant impact on Rigol sales. Rigol was already becoming a household name for hobbyists and amateurs (theit is good enough for Agilent, too, thing ...). Then came the Rigo hack which probably cemented Rigol's position and made big waves. As opposite to the Hantek/Tekway hack, which doesn't make big waves and remains a niche hack.My personal opinion, based on experience with Rigol, is they still have a long way to go to get out off the hobbyist, amateur and education market niche and make an impression on the mid-range professional market. Their attitude, especially when it comes to support is just unprofessional. They like to shift boxes in fire-and-forget mode. As soon as you have a Rigol you are on your own.

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2011, 07:16:46 pm
content: http://www.linkedin.com/company/rigol-technologies-inc.http://www.linkedin.com/company/rigol-technologies-inc./statisticsInteresting Rigol stats.

author: Polossatik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2011, 10:31:18 pm
content: Quote from: saturation on March 28, 2011, 07:16:46 pmEmployee statistics are based on6LinkedIn users at this company....

author: bilko
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2011, 11:09:07 pm
content: Quote from: saturation on March 28, 2011, 07:16:46 pmThanks everybody for the feedback. It is interesting to see the annual growth figure shot up at the end of December, then remains static. It appears that Rigol are getting well established and respected (except for the poor tech support). I would imagine that they have will have some fierce competition with Hantek / Tekway as it can only be a matter of time before their Linux based OS becomes open source. Do you think that Rigol will reduce the price of their 100Mhz scope to regain market share and deter hacking of their entry level scopes ?

author: tinhead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2011, 11:36:42 pm
content: Quote from: yachtronics on March 28, 2011, 10:18:48 amno, for Hantek/Tekway unfortunately not. Everybody knows Rigol, few knows Hantek, almost nobody knows Tekway.For most ppl didn't really matter if a product is good or hackable, most hobbyists just worry too much about to buy somehting "nobody knows",a good old (and really bad in my opinion) Rigol product is better for them.Rigol sales probably dropped because of Agilent DSOX2xxx, but that's different story.Quote from: yachtronics on March 28, 2011, 10:18:48 amdepends ..if you talk about model hacks then the answer is definitely NO: You should see these emails i got from Tekway/Hantek - they more like"stop this bullshit, our DSOs are already calculated on limit and you destroing our revenue" than "thanks for hacking and making our DSO more popular".But of course every manufacturer is trying to add some nice features, sometimes more or less hidden things and hoping thatthe end-user will buy just because of these features.A best example: Hantek/Tekway actually changed hardware design, they added some "standard Samsung S3C2440 functionality" to the DSO,like audio codec (even with place for plugs) or SD card. These parts are not soldered, but routed to the S3C2440 making thisDSO more hack-friendy. So for this kind of "hidden advertisement" the answer is YES,

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2011, 12:42:49 am
content: Better 6 than none! Take with some skepticism. The company description is a standard writeup they use on their website regarding their supposed #2 in DSO sales volume.Quote from: Polossatik on March 28, 2011, 10:31:18 pmHow prices are set is a tricky thing, that $400 sales price has a hefty markup, at least 100% or more and has to provide profits for the retailer, and compensate for the cost of shipping from China to the warehouse. Most folks reduce prices if the scope fails to sell but before they eat their profit margin they have to consider the continuing rise in cost of manufacture. In 2009 the 1052e was ~$600, but so many were sold at eBay for about $400, the official price tumbled to that amount by summer of 2010; its been there ever since. Today you can find prices between $330-380, before postage. I don't think prices will drop more because the Chinese currency is getting strong, US $ is weaker, gas prices are rising, so if anything the price will stay the same or increase.

author: bilko
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2011, 01:50:34 am
content: Quote from: saturation on March 29, 2011, 12:42:49 amI agree the 50Mhz scope is cheap, I was thinking more that they would reduce the differential between the 50 and 100 Mhz scopes to 'encourage' more customers to buy the 100Mhz version rather than taking the trouble to 'hack' the 50.

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2011, 10:56:42 am
content: The 'electronics' dealers have dropped their prices to within $100 of the 1052e. The official distributors haven't.http://www.dealexcel.com/rigol-ds1102e-ds-1102e-digital-color-oscilloscope-100mhz-dual-ch_p321.htmlInterestingly, Rigol has sent a memo to the EU warning about "fake" Rigols.http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.progshop.com%2Fpdf%2Foscilloscopes%2FRigol%2FStatement%2520of%2520Rigol.pdf&rct=j&q=statement%20rigol%20illegal%20sales%20channel&ei=WbqRTZmJJYrVgQfe8YQZ&usg=AFQjCNHfR9bM0H1MX9ziaja7NKBhyT6XsA&cad=rjaOf course, you need to beware about those other channels:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=30.msg1640#msg1640Quote from: yachtronics on March 29, 2011, 01:50:34 am