Opinions on new EEVblog channel art please - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:01:44 am
content: Kyle Morello sent me some new channel art, opinions please...BTW, I'm not that interested in "it should be a lighter shade, or slightly different font etc" either it sucks arse or it doesn't!Kyle did my original one you still see on my websitehttps://www.youtube.com/user/eevblogThe alternative is the one I had previously with just the outline face artwork.Note that Youtube logos have to be a certain format in order to viewed properly on all devices

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:05:26 am
content: Black one.

author: Icchan
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:08:45 am
content: I like the middle one. Looks really nice in all the devicesSomeone could be put off by the blobby and cartoony font in it, but I like it

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:12:32 am
content: The black one for sure.The blue ones look kind of kitschy to me..

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:14:08 am
content: Quote from: Icchan on February 22, 2014, 01:08:45 amThere is whole community of passionate Comic Sans haters out there, and will tell you so at every opportunity. Personally I think they all need to get laid more often.

author: Rigby
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:17:56 am
content: Comic Sans is overused in general, and its use is indicative of a designer that hasn't reached their potential, yet.MINUS the Comic Sans, the blue one is my fave.I get laid plenty.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:33:56 am
content: Black.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:37:46 am
content: Polling ?Black.

author: MatCat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:39:17 am
content: I want to like the blue, but the black just looks more pro.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:41:56 am
content: Black. The blue looks silly.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:44:25 am
content: What if the blue one was replaced with a black background?What I'm saying is that I do like the line art style photo and the structure of the "blog" text.

author: David_AVD
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:48:14 am
content: Nope. I prefer the black one for colour and style.

author: ahnuts72
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:49:50 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 22, 2014, 01:44:25 amI think 2 would look good in black.The bottom line of text in 2 could be a bit bigger though.1 looks good also but a little plain to me.

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:54:03 am
content: Quote from: Rigby on February 22, 2014, 01:17:56 amOfftopic, but I have heard anecdotally that Comic Sans is actually a particularly good typeface for dyslexia sufferers, they find it easier to read than most.

author: Icchan
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:54:47 am
content: Even if the black is more "professional looking" (what ever that means...) it's very empty and dull in comparison I think.I have noticed that if you want to catch people's eye, don't be black, dull in your colour scheme and empty in your layout (pure black background).

author: Prime73
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 02:07:21 am
content: I like the simplicity of the black one. Don't like the black background though... The other two have a dated feel to them. Simple and clean - this is the way to go. Don't wanna start the "design war" however seems like people are tired from all that "busy" graphics and looking for a simple alternatives. Take a look at iOS 7 interface vs iOS 6.

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 02:08:37 am
content: Change is good, I like it.

author: mariush
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 02:14:09 am
content: Black one. The blue ones have too many shades of blue and the font selection also doesn't help it.The one in the center even has 3 fonts (or 4?) and the italic font will look ugly.The black one could probably look better if... maybe converting the center stuff to look like a business card sitting on top of a dark blue /glossy black pcb with light gray or white silkscreen and gold pads, or something like that. The contrast could make it look great.

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 02:16:09 am
content: If you want to spice up the black one, you could add the PCB traces to the background.IMHO, the blue ones are just wrong in several ways. Too many fonts, the small script font on the third line of the second one is hard to read - oh and then there's the Comic Sans-- (I'll have to talk to my wife about getting laid more often I guess.....)Have a look at12 Essential Rules to Follow When Designing a LogoSpecifically rule number 6 - Typography Matters..QuoteYep, the blue ones pretty much nail all 3 of those..

author: bxs
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 02:23:44 am
content: The black one

author: codeboy2k
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 02:27:11 am
content: The blue one looks childish to me, as pointed out already ... too many fonts, and the script text is hard to read even at high res.Perhaps the black one with the lineart would be nicer..

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 02:53:44 am
content: Meh. I think they all look blurg - especially with the comic fontThis font style:Was really popular in the 80s in relation to anything to do with technology and computers.Go retro, I say.http://www.dafont.com/computerfont.font

author: Rigby
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 03:08:08 am
content: Quote from: sleemanj on February 22, 2014, 01:54:03 ammight be; sounds plausible.http://opendyslexic.org/is another option.

author: orion242
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 03:13:33 am
content: Black one.K.I.S.S.

author: envisionelec
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 03:50:06 am
content: I do plenty of copy editing and have an eye for it.I like the blue color, but there are too many typefaces and the circuit traces should be screened (a layer of blend). I don't hate Comic Sans, but I think there are much better fonts out there. The Script is unnecessary and infers a classiness that just doesn't fit your style.

author: Kilroy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 05:11:30 am
content: Black...it's the new blue anyway.

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 05:20:55 am
content: Ugh, readability of the outline style is terrible (to say nothing of C.S.).If you're looking to change or update it, I'd like to see something as legible (or better), with just a little style about it (over the minimal-ish B&W form).Tim

author: timelessbeing
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 06:24:23 am
content: The black one is more elegant, but too conservative. I prefer the blue one because it's more exciting, but it needs to be tweaked so that all the elements jive together.

author: Joule Thief
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 06:39:33 am
content: since the responses are limited to sucks arse or notthen ... sucks arse ... all threesorry

author: timelessbeing
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 06:45:28 am
content: Did you even look at them, because there's only two.

author: AntiProtonBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 07:41:53 am
content: The black theme. Less is more, I reckon.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 08:03:40 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 22, 2014, 04:08:32 amI've never had a real logo, or even a real official font or colours, it's always been a mixed bag of whatever works for the situation.Something for the website. Something for a square icon type graphic. Something for the youtube channel. Something to go on a PCB. Etc...QuoteSee above.

author: Joule Thief
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 08:58:40 am
content: Quote from: timelessbeing on February 22, 2014, 06:45:28 am3 png's2 stylesno offense Dave, drop the face and most of the text -heavier on the logo.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 09:09:07 am
content: The black one is the best of the three. But where is your platypus, it should surely be on there.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 09:19:20 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 22, 2014, 08:41:55 amThat's the issue, there are many uses. I need banners of various with and without tag lines, I need square icons with my real photo, I need PCB labels, I need signage etcOne has to remember that Iamthe brand. My face, my likeness is what makes me identifiable.

author: Joule Thief
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 10:10:23 am
content: Yes, true for now !10 - 15 more years of stress and parenting two or three additional little crumb crunchers will have you looking in the bathroom mirror one morning and have you saying "Dad ??"I remember that day and how quickly the "it's not my age, it's the mileage" justifications followed.A classic logo is timeless and if you are careful with Photoshop, will not exibit the same degree of sagging and stretching as seen in real life.You'll get it right. No doubt in my mind.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 11:31:43 am
content: Neither as they are so I could not vote with a radio button ..Black one with the second ones main logo and keeping the black ones smaller words (the an off the cuff stuff) .

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 11:43:15 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 22, 2014, 09:19:20 amTry not to forget Dick tricky Smith mainly relating to the major "Hypocrisy" department in the years to come though imoAll those years flogging overseas stuff , selling it all for 33 million , then the buy Australiaaan bs and patriotism and copying everything elses ideas (matchs/bread spread/geographic/ and heaps of others and cry's when flying a helicopter, try not to end up like it as its just a sad sad lonely nutcase , a wealthy one but still a hypocritical nut .

author: Christe4nM
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 11:47:28 am
content: The black one: plain and simple in both logo and font - easy to remember. Even easier on silkcreenalso a +1 for the platypus

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 12:14:38 pm
content: Take the black one and shove the blue background behind it.I know you don't wanted comments on fonts, but the small hollow fonts of the blue one is unreadable for us 'old people' that need tree differnt pairs of glasses to get through the day.The black one is clean and perfectly fine. It would liven it up a bit shoving that layout in the back

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:29:08 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 22, 2014, 01:44:25 amI like the idea of the black one with the PCB traces behind it. I agree with free_electron. I don't have 3 different pairs of glasses, just 3 different types of magnification on my workbench!The script font does make it a bit hard to read. Alternately, use the blue but change the color to black and only change the script font to something a little more readable. PING! PING! (the sound of my 2 cents being thrown into the bucket.)

author: Steffen
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 01:59:09 pm
content: Definately black!Fits better into myFirefox browser themeand to my newly discoveredblack youtube theme. Please keep in mind, that Dave already has a fancy door sign byCNC-Designwith that style.Example attached.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 02:39:39 pm
content: I like the concept of the blue one. For a small banner leave the bottom line "An off-the-cuff ..." away, just add it to a large banner or poster. The impression of the black one is too calm and boring.For those who take the pictures as they are: project them onto a PCB, web page, poster, mug or whatever in your mind. Leave some parts away if there's not enough space and you'll see ;-)

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 05:36:46 pm
content: Can combo be a choice?I would say combine the black with the traces from the blue but Dave hates black because its hard to see the traces.I like the minimalistic theme the black provides but the electronicy them that the blue has.So, I propose you go with a red one instead. A darker red background with more sublte traces and the font of the black theme. Dave likes red PCBs so thats a good choice.

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 07:32:28 pm
content: I have voted for black because I think it was the best of the two.The reason not licking the blue is various. First I think there is too much blue. I don't like the font "EEVBLOG" is written in, it seems so 90's WordArt style. The slogan "No Script No Fear All Opinion" white border is something I don't think fit's in very well.However I do think the black version is a bit boring though, because there is nothing going on in the background, and the foreground is Dave's trademark picture with some typical-font text saying what it is.Maybe add the PCB tracks background as an accent with a black/[pick a fancy color] color scheme. The way it's done now is very dominant, as I said too much blue.I guess I really like how Altium does their styling (and also what I try to describe), with the black board & copper orange "glowing" accents.

author: ablacon64
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2014, 10:05:41 pm
content: In my opinion put the photo from the blue one in the black. Didn't like the blue "blog" letter type. And agree that the black is more sober.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 06:45:08 am
content: Here is an improved version from Kyle

author: Rigby
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 06:47:28 am
content: I like it.

author: mariush
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 06:57:58 am
content: The two text sizes just don't feel right to me.Maybe just drop the second line, or remove a couple of words to make it fit within the general width (eevblog + picture) or at least slightly increase the font size.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 07:07:56 am
content: Much better!

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 07:28:55 am
content: Yes - Bob's your uncle!

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 08:24:16 am
content: I like it .

author: timelessbeing
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 08:39:25 am
content: it's a Bobby dazzler

author: jippie
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 08:55:36 am
content: I like the blue one during the header, it is more catchy it nearly gets me all excited, more like: Sit down, watch this space, something good is coming up! The black one is more like the "bad news guys"/depressing trailer: Oh too bad, that's it for today folks. See you next time!

author: vk3yedotcom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 09:46:54 am
content: latest = goodMore words would be excessive. No need to spell it out since the key words are in the description and people can work it out. And if they can't it's not important since there's a strong subtitle that tells what it's all about.

author: Thor-Arne
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 10:02:09 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 23, 2014, 06:45:08 am

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 10:53:14 am
content: Keeps the Iconic Dave photo talking to the hand, and still conveys urgency and how he is. Time to trademark that image Dave.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 11:08:05 am
content: I like the latest one.As you would say, Robert's your father's brother

author: BBQ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 12:43:44 pm
content: Switch font to comic sans.

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 12:46:20 pm
content: Much better version!The background less dominant helps a lot, and I think it's better now than the all-black version.

author: Noise Floor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 01:45:51 pm
content: I like the latest one, but still prefer the original black one. I'm a sucker for less is more though.

author: Joule Thief
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 02:04:25 pm
content: The wording "An off the cuff" seems redundant to the "NO SCRIPT" wording above.Eliminating "An off the cuff" off the last line would provide a cleaner overall alignment / look.

author: romantronixlab
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 02:47:15 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 22, 2014, 01:44:25 amHow about a black PCB with olive green or electric green traces and better looking font.quickie sample below. Not the best IMO.

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 02:51:40 pm
content: Beauty! Brilliant! A Bobby dazzler! Bob's your uncle! Epic fail, NOT!

author: denelec
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 04:07:12 pm
content: In the past, I had a few experiences similar to Dilbert's in this strip:http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2002-09-23/So I will abstain to voice my opinion.

author: ablacon64
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 05:19:20 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 23, 2014, 06:45:08 amPerfect!

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 05:23:29 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 23, 2014, 06:45:08 amDefinitly like that one. Combo of the blue and black does well.

author: Skimask
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2014, 06:18:02 pm
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on February 23, 2014, 02:51:40 pmI give it two bee's dicks up!

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 24, 2014, 12:26:30 am
content: I've been biting my tongue so I don't say something irrelevant and stupid, but this has been bothering me:You only get one chance to make a first impressionYou are not pitching a million dollar deal to the boardYou are looking for page views, then hopefully engagementYou have to stand out in a busy internetThat means being eye catchingFor the love of FSM use colour, curves and gradients!Hardly anyone is an engineerHardly anyone reads datasheets recreationallyWhy present like a bloody datasheet? OK, picky; the current favourite does havetwocolours. But so bland!I like the original second one. It's not perfect, but it's visually appealing. It's a nice 'picture.' Sure, it fails a bunch tests for a good logo, but you aren't putting it on a bloody letterhead. You're putting it on everyone's ultra HD devices. Use the bloody device capabilities.I'm sure the sage old grey-beards that aren't here already will recognise a sound community when they see it, but all those 20-30 yo noobs with disposable income and the attention span of a Jack Russell on speed might just pass you over.Also; not every 'hand writing' font is comic sans. Yours certainly isn't. And anyway, much like the traditional logo rules, who really gives a shit if the font kerning is wrong? I'd stick with the one you have; it's not that common, and it hascurves.Discl: Born before 1970 and not colour blind and not a type-setter

author: mamalala
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 24, 2014, 12:47:27 am
content: That Kyle guy is a "web designer" then, i guess?Greetings,Chris

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 24, 2014, 01:53:53 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on February 24, 2014, 01:08:36 amQuote from: EEVblog on February 22, 2014, 01:01:44 amTo answer the original question in the tone that was requested: The middle one doesn't suck. The first one sucks big time.Quote from: wilfred on February 24, 2014, 01:08:36 amOh Well

author: Zad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2014, 06:45:38 am
content: With logos, less is definitely more. Remember though, you can have a family of logos, based around the same look and feel. So, for instance, you don't have to have it with the full text. I would tend to go with just "EEVBlog - No script, No fear, All opinion." in that font, with a cropped background.Maybehave a faded subtle mid-blue "Electronic engineering video blog" above the title. Can the designer brighten the EEV part of it? It does seem to fade into the background. Alternatively, use a thicker white highlight and/or use a subtle drop-shadow to push the text forward more.That blue does look pretty cold and dark to me (hey, I'm British, the sky's usually that colour here!) green is much more iconic when it comes to PCBs and warmer in general, but that blue doesn't really work for me. Talking of which, the PCB design behind the text doesn't quite work. The big power trace to the left is rather dominant, especially with it being right next to an empty piece of board. Generally speaking, a background pattern like that should have roughly the same pattern density all over it.And I have just realised that I have more or less just described my own logo, with several of it's faults. One of these days Iwillget around to uploading the version of the graphic without the big shadowed vias. The irony that I spend 90% of my time working on analogue electronics isn't lost on me.www.digital-wizardry.co.uk

author: TMM
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2014, 07:24:41 am
content: I like the composition of the blue one but drop the comic sans font imo. It just needs a similar font that isn't comic sans :p

author: timelessbeing
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2014, 06:49:35 pm
content: Quote from: romantronixlab on February 23, 2014, 02:47:15 pmThat gives me an idea ...What if you had a physical PCB made with your logo silkscreened over it, and photograph it. As if to say, "this is the real stuff. No wanky photoshoop graphic design BS".