is this a scam  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 13, 2016, 02:26:13 am
content: http://www.ebay.com/itm/112008673212?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=410949193593&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AITi bought one last night the gold color got it for my nephew he is 10 the gold one was 14.55aud free shipping i know these cameras are not the best but for him it would be greatwhy i ask if its a scam is because the cheapest ive ever seen these cameras ever sold for is 19.96usd on special

author: J.Xerneas
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 13, 2016, 02:33:55 am
content: Nah. These things get cheaper every day. But buy at your own risk, It could still be crap.

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 13, 2016, 02:50:46 am
content: Quote from: J.Xerneas on June 13, 2016, 02:33:55 ami have owned 2 of these type of cameras before but different stylesother one had a touch screen said it would film in h.264 but it only filmed in mjpeg cost me 55nzd but i got 50% refund as seller listed it wrongand i bought a 21usd camera that did an ok job filming in 720p but i sold both the cameras and got a 200nzd panasonic full hd camera nowbut this will be for my nephew so even if its not that great at filming its good enough for him

author: J.Xerneas
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 13, 2016, 02:59:39 am
content: If you don't need great quality, it should be fine as long as it works. Normally cheap cameras built today have ok quality. So it should be great for a nephew. I would be happy with it!

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 13, 2016, 03:41:25 am
content: * All sales have occurred in the last 2 weeks. Nothing before the 27th May.Not encouraging.* No feedback left yetUnderstandable - but, again, not encouraging.* Items are marked as Private in the feedback, so you can't tell which item the feedback relates to.Not helpful - and you have to wonder why you would hide this. Sellers will tend to make themselves transparent as much as possible and I look at this practice as not encouraging. The only exception to this is when the products might represent some embarrassment to a buyer - (but this doesn't seem to apply from what I can see).* They seem to have been selling clothing in the past - so why....... oh, hang on.Their 'items for sale' shows nothing...... not even the listing linked. This makes me wonder - but eBay could be having one of it's "moments".Anyway, for the price, I'm not confident you will get the full advertised specs.Bottom line: I wouldn't touch this until at least there was some feedback to check out ... but seeing the items are "Private" you won't be able to tell unless the Buyer leaves enough information in their feedback for you to be sure which item it is - which isn't likely.If you want to give it a shot, then make sure you use PayPal and are ready to put in a dispute if it goes wrong...

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 13, 2016, 04:14:24 am
content: Your mileage may vary....This camera may look like a clone of the SJCAM SJ4000 which itself is a type of clone of the GoPro. I own a "real" SJ4000 (if you can call it that) in that it is one of the authentic ones with good firmware version verified by the SJCAM manufacturer. However, there are many others that run different internals, many of which will be "bricked" if you try to load what you think is the authentic firmware on them. And you may not know until you kill the camera (hence, don't update the firmware if you aren't 100% sure).As far as quality goes... That is also a gamble. I know my SJCAM SJ4000 is good, I've used it now for over a year and shot everything from action videos to time-lapse photography (I'll link in some videos below). It does *NOT* do 60 fps even though there is a setting for it, it's just doubling-up frames. Otherwise the quality is pretty good as you can see from my videos.However, the cheaper SJCAM/GoPro look-a-likes may have even worse sensors and specs. I'm not saying the price hasn't gone down since I bought mine last year, but there is a good chance that if it looks too good to be true... you are getting one of the lower quality ones. It may use a smaller sensor that they "scale up" in firmware to the resolution they claim is what it is actually shooting at, or your frame rate is also being faked, or the lens is plastic, or the video format is awful (poor codec and settings due to slow processor being used). Not to mention build-quality, battery life, etc. So there is a lot of differences inside and out that you are not going to know about.Still, for that price I think it's worth trying it out and seeing how it goes... Just letting you know that there IS a difference. Not necessarily, but you can't know what you are getting exactly unless the seller absolutely vouches that it is an SJCAM SJ4000 and the firmware revision/serial and verification (yes SJCAM has a website you are supposed to check it even) proves true.Either way, I think you'll have a lot of fun with these cheap cameras.... Certainly much less than a GoPro and easier to handle financially if it gets damaged during use.Here's me skiing with the SJCAM SJ4000:And here's a 1080p time-lapse:And mounted to a car windshield:Just of a few of my many videos using the SJCAM SJ4000 which I paid about $60 for last year.

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2016, 09:00:17 am
content: i found my old phone last night so i decided to give that to him so i messaged the seller to cancel it and he got back to me 1hr latter sayingThe postman just picked up YOUR item from our office.It is estimated to arrive in 20 ~ 30 days(no include weekend) in normal conditions. If not, please do not hesitate to contact us if you have a problemi messed them back say ok thank you seeing if its already sent to too late for them to cancel the order but i get up in the morning and go on ebay and see that the order was canceled and seller messaged me saying thishi friend:we have already canceled the order for youand send you the cancel request .you need cancel it in your side to accept the money.hope you can have a good consideration before make an order next timebecause canceling an order will have bad influence on ushope you can understandthen i messaged them back saying i thought the item was already shipped so why have you canceled itthere reply wasyes it has shipped,we have contact post office to find your item so its return to us,but it was to late its been ship,the item still send to you,good dayim confused so i got a refund but the item is still on its way to me?

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 14, 2016, 09:07:50 am
content: Quote from: sony mavica on June 14, 2016, 09:00:17 amSeems so. Well, if it arrives be honest and pay to the seller again.

author: ebclr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2016, 09:14:33 am
content: Is this seller covered by eBay protection, case positive take the risk , eBay protection works, and you also have the opportunity to extends to your card fraud protection, no risk at all, all risk is on the seller side

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2016, 12:42:49 pm
content: Lately (like the last 3 purchases) I've done on eBay have not showed up until well after the last "expected to arrive" date. So I contacted the sellers and promptly received my refund... Only that 2 of 3 items have recently arrived and I suspect the 3rd to show up also extremely late.So I'm going to pay the sellers of the first 2 items and when and if the 3rd arrives I will pay them. These are all small $1-6 items. I think I will wait longer in the future before hitting the refund button. They need to lengthen the shipping time from 3-4 weeks on average to 6-8 weeks which is what I noticed in the last few months. Any reason? More people buying from eBay or summer have anything to do with it?

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2016, 10:04:50 am
content: will post update if the camera does turn up

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2016, 10:29:30 am
content: don't think it will ever turn up as its saysseller is No longer a registered user

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 06, 2016, 12:51:57 pm
content: I think you're right.