Daves Wikipedia Page - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: kolbep
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2012, 02:18:54 pm
content: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_L_Jonescreated today. Dunno wikipedia did not remember it from when the other member created it during live show 400Please all of you go and edit it, cos it sucks at the moment .

author: kolbep
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2012, 02:46:51 pm
content: Pleas guys, lets populte he page asap, because wikipedia is threatening to ccancel it because they do not know how important he crazyauzzie bloke really is.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2012, 03:17:14 pm
content: Bzzzzzzzzt.Quote

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2012, 03:56:40 pm
content: Not to offend Dave, but I don't think he's notable enough for a Wikipedia page.

author: Neganur
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 23, 2012, 10:00:01 pm
content: right, but three lines of crap about a Danish meal is significant enough to make it to wiki?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98llebr%C3%B8dsurely, it must be because the page had too little content or the creator of the page didn't follow the guidelines?

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2012, 10:47:03 pm
content: Quote from: Neganur on December 23, 2012, 10:00:01 pmYou can create a wikipedia article for almost anything physical, such as a dish of food, but when it comes to individual people, there are very strict guidelines.

author: Madsaaby
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2012, 12:33:48 am
content: Quote from: Neganur on December 23, 2012, 10:00:01 pmTHAT is not a meal !!! It tastes like it looks.. Like shit..It was properly invented by a guy, who eat "rye bread", then went to a party, drank beer, got drunk like hell, threw up in a pot.. And the others, who had smoked crack all day, went "Heeey we are hungry, let's cook that!!"Sorry for the off topic rant-Mads

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 24, 2012, 02:22:00 am
content: I've never created a Wiki page, but yes, I believe there are strict criteria for people. You have to be "noteable" in some way, and or have external references to the person, or suitable links or events where this person is talked about etc. e.g. newspaper, magazine articles etc, and the page has to written as such. Fan pages don't cut it. I didn't see it before it was taken down, so don't know what was on it.There are far less "notable" people than me on Wikipedia, it all depends on how it's written and why.e.g. I could perhaps be notable for my PIC Micro video and Microchip's follow-up, my uWatch, or my magazine articles for example. And you'd need reference links to third party links like my EEweb profile, or Elector article for example to back it up.So if it didn't have something like that, it doesn't surprise me that it would be taken down pretty quick.Dave.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 24, 2012, 02:46:34 am
content: uCurrent definitely deserves a wiki page on its own right, uSupply probably after release. Naturally the designer would be mentioned and his name won't stay red for long.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_hardware_projects(look under test equipment)

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2012, 06:22:48 am
content: A localized (wikipedia australia) article could be lees possible to get deleted.Alexander.

author: TriodeTiger
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2012, 06:41:26 am
content: Someome at least make a Wikiquotes entry under his name

author: Razor512
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2012, 06:46:39 am
content: why would they remove it? he is very important.I wonder what if they make a wikipedia page on the eevblog online "TV Series"Many online TV shows eg ones from networks like revision 3 are able to get their own wiki pages, and they don't even come close to the amount of content on his youtube channel

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 26, 2012, 09:41:36 pm
content: A wiki page for the list of AmpHour episodes also got declined for the same reason:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/List_of_The_AmpHour_EpisodesDave.

author: Neganur
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 27, 2012, 05:56:38 pm
content: "...so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia."maybe I'm just way too grumpy at the moment, but it's always the same with those encyclopedias. Even the free ones apparently.I bet, even if you provided the perfect content with references, evidence, pictures, documented events etc, there still will be a group of people in charge of wikipedia's politics, who will not agree with the content being notable enough for an encyclopedia. (unless you donate a notable amount of $ maybe hmm?)I can understand that a paper version needs to have 'serious' content (physical limitations), but a web based one - come on...Maybe I just have a misconception of what content is OK, if you compare withhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_a_Daythere's a butt load of references. But are they notable? Who's to say *shrug* (I like hackaday, no offense). I don't usually get involved with such matters but in this case I think it would be really useful to have a wiki regarding Dave's blog and The Amp Hour simply because it's hard to find electronics related content. Maybe there's some wiki page that lists notable electronic blogs/forums likewww.mikrocontroller.netwww.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Mikrocontrolleris actually listed under external links in the German wiki page about microcontrollers. Granted, it's a big website about all kinds of electronics.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 27, 2012, 09:49:03 pm
content: Quote from: Neganur on December 27, 2012, 05:56:38 pmAn "online magazine"?It's a blog! And basically just an aggregator of other blog pages and info at that.Denying the AmpHour List was just plain dumb.Dave.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2012, 03:28:45 am
content: Wikipedia editors feel important when they deny something based on notability. It's like a wine snob who gets to feel a bit better than you when he reminds you that the cheap wine you like is in fact total shit. Unlikehis.

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2012, 05:41:16 am
content: Quote from: c4757p on December 28, 2012, 03:28:45 amSome people can taste sand, the soil, the ocean breeze, all kinds of things in wine, I on the other hand can only taste fricken grapes!

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2012, 05:44:09 am
content: If your wine tastes like sand or soil you should probably get different wine. Just sayin'.

author: FenderBender
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2012, 05:46:16 am
content: Well I just plain hate wine so...

author: mamalala
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 28, 2012, 06:12:22 am
content: Quote from: Neganur on December 27, 2012, 05:56:38 pm<wikilogic>See, you just admitted that Dave's Blog and the Amp Hour are not important. I mean, really, if they were noteworthy they wouldn't be hard to find, right? Right?</wikilogic>You should see what's going on in the German Wikipedia. In comparison the US version has extremely lax rules about notability etc. It's really sad. Storage is cheap nowdays, so i really don't see what the problem is for WP. Plus, there are many things in this world that by default are some kind of small niche. Measuring popularity just by the amount of people interested throughout the whole population is stupid. If you have something that 10k people find important, in a sector with 11k people in total, then it is really important to them. Of course, comparing that 10k people to the billions on this planet makes it an almost non-existent group.Greetings,Chris

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2012, 06:20:22 am
content: Like I said, Wikipedia editors like to feel good about themselves, and nothing instills a sense of self-importance like strict rules and exclusivity. In their minds Wikipedia still has something to prove, and they think they are doing their part to show the world that Wikipedia is above unimportant crap.An interesting anomaly is their love of lists. No "real" encyclopedia would contain a list of every single episode ofSouth Parkalong with director, writer, and air date. Nobody needs to know that. But if you want a list of every time George W. Bush sneezed and the quantity of mucus expelled, WP's probably got it.

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2012, 05:08:01 pm
content: Greetings EEVBees:--I agree. Dave indeed should have a Wiki Page. He certainly has enough friends to keep the page honest. Now, Dave is probably too humble to provide much help, but the page would need a short biography, with college and work history, film award(s), inventions, Silicon Chip and other magazine articles, and a chart of Dave's various web offerings.--Now Wiki is an excellent source for non-controversial information, but should not be trusted too far without 2nd source confirmation. Someone on this forum wound themselves into a state of high dudgeon, when it was pointed out the Wiki is sometimes counter factual. They then accused the Wiki critic of being delusional and thinking the Wiki was a Communist Plot, for daring to suggest that Wiki anything other than the gospel truth. Please see link below for just a taste of some of the Wiki shenanigans.http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/heres-your-correction-wikipedia-founder/"Barack Obama is a member of the Nudist Party", "Hillary Clinton was born with clubbed feet and her arms bent the wrong way." --Snort.--And now Facebook is censoring Ghandi Quotes.http://www.naturalnews.com/038484_Gandhi_quote_Facebook_censorship.html"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.""All business sagacity reduces itself in the last analysis to judicious use of sabotage."Thorstein Bunde Veblen 1857 - 1929Best RegardsClear Ether

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2012, 06:43:56 pm
content: The British hardly deprived a whole nation of arms, they did try to disarm a lot warring tribes with some success in parts but look what happened to the area after the Indians had independence a civil war that ended with partition and is still going on today, the British also tried to tame Afghanistan as well to no avail and look at the poison that that state is now.

author: HardBoot
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2012, 03:14:23 am
content: Why not flush out an eevblog wiki page, also, wikipedia mods are all wankers.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2012, 05:28:02 am
content: Quote from: HardBoot on December 30, 2012, 03:14:23 amThe list of Amp Hour episodes got deleted, so I suspect an EEVblog page would also suffer the same fate.Dave.

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2012, 05:30:37 am
content: Actually, speaking of wikipedia posts, I was browsing wikipedia a while ago and spotted a few of your contributions, keep up the good work Dave!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2012, 08:02:26 am
content: Quote from: peter.mitchell on December 30, 2012, 05:30:37 amI've added a few things over the years, but mostly not under an account. Have started a new account now though.Recently I've had an account cancelled because the name was identical to a website, and that flags as potential spamming apparently!Also have had photos uploaded that have been deleted by mods, even though they are original and fair use. Really pisses you off, and doesn't make you want to contribute any moreDave.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2012, 09:57:05 am
content: If anybody knows of a wikipedia administered by 'softer' mods than English (and apparently German) ones, maybe it could be a starting point to get some ground, before re-attempting with en.wikipedia.org...

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2012, 11:49:52 am
content: you could try simple.wikipedia.org?