Rigol DS1054Z New Free international shipping for $90? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: HarlanKing
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 02:14:27 am
content: Just found this linkhttp://www.ebay.ca/itm/Rigol-DS1054Z-50-Mhz-4-Channel-Digital-Oscilloscope-/231786662145?hash=item35f78fc901:g:tVQAAOSwZ1lWcniEWhat am i missing? Seller has good reviews. Is this for real?

author: knarf180
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 02:21:08 am
content: Check the seller's feedback. One person states "Fake item do not buy!"Not worth the risk if you ask me

author: m12lrpv
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 02:22:07 am
content: Item location NY but seller profile clearly states china.Good deal if it's for real though.

author: HarlanKing
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 02:24:23 am
content: Yeah i'm confused. I guess you're fairly protected by paypal if you order one....Still, too good to be true.If anyone else want's to order one and let me know how it goes, i'd be very appreciativeEDIT: Just looked at the other items for sale by the seller. He's definitely got some scam going on... FLIR E5 for $125.DO NOT BUY FROM.

author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 03:27:30 am
content: All you have to do when you see something like this is to report the item as fraudulent to eBay.Some other telltale signs (besides the price) that this is a hacked account:-All item listings started today, no other history of selling similar items within the past month-Listing pictures and descriptions are likely copied from other recently completed sales-A bunch of random items all have the same selling priceThis is probably an account that was inactive before it was compromised.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 04:30:25 am
content: When this topic was created, there were ~25 sold in the last 24 hours. Now it is 52. People need to start thinking before buying at clearly unrealistic prices.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 05:00:45 am
content: This is a scam, just like this onehttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/3d-printer-for-$73-shipped-too-good/msg772039/#msg772039

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 05:50:18 am
content: Quote from: ataradov on December 18, 2015, 04:30:25 amA few years back, I was caught with a $30 disk drive year end close out. First time I got caught. I thought the price was low, but the market was moving away from 2TB 512byte/sector drive. So I thought he really was closing out his stock. Good that I didn't order 10 or something. I ordered just one.The seller disappeared after marking it shipped - he did ship me a 3.5 inch "disk drive" the size of a stick of chewing gum folded in the middle. Only time I was caught by such total fraud. Shipping something that is sub-par is at least selling something resembling the working item. That was total fraud.After I saw the seller closed his account, I did some research on the web. As it turn out, this kinds of scam come around every year around Christmas. The year I got caught was his/their 3rd or 4th year of Year End Ripoff Special.

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 06:13:28 am
content: You can also buy a Flir E5 from him for only 90$. If you order the Rigol, I would order this one too

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 06:22:31 am
content: The description on the Rigol listing claims that he's an authorized distributor. Not at that price he's not. I submitted a fraud report to eBay.To submit one, proceed as follows:1. To the right of the Description and Shipping tabs, click the "Report Item" link.2. Select "Listing practices" from the Category drop down list.3. Select "Fraudulent listing practices" from the Reason for Report drop down list.4. Select "You suspect that a listing is fraudulent" from the Detailed Reason drop down list.5. Click the Continue button and there may be an additional button or two after that to submit the report.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 06:26:01 am
content: Quote from: bitseeker on December 18, 2015, 06:22:31 amThanks for the description of the process. I poked around for a few minutes and could not find a way to report the item. They sure don't make it obvious. Submitted a report as well.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 06:31:18 am
content: Yeah, not easy at all, so it warranted a step-by-step list.

author: Deathwish
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 06:44:38 am
content: I'm sure if you tipped the nod to one of the official rigol bods on here it would go missing faster

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 09:48:19 am
content: Quote from: _Wim_ on December 18, 2015, 06:13:28 amYes and a V-Twin 25HP engine. Weights 50kg - for only $89 including free international shipping. Whoever believes this would be a true offer, still believes in Santa ....

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 05:01:04 pm
content: All of his listings are now gone. I wonder if people got their money back.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 06:19:19 pm
content: If people don't get their money back, that would be bad for eBay.For example, I ran into a similar situation on AliExpress this year. Someone was selling small things such as breadboards, Arduino clones, etc., at 90% off. Obvious scam, but I ordered something like five items (risked $2) to see what would happen.Sure enough, a week or two after the products were supposed to ship, AliExpress sent out a notice that the seller was fraudulent and orders were cancelled. The AliExpress buyer's protection would then refund the full amount of the order.Since then, I've ordered more stuff via AliExpress having confirmed first hand that their system works as advertised.

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2015, 07:45:51 am
content: The difference is: at AliExpress the reseller does not get the money before the buyer explicit confirms the recipience and condition of the ordered goods.At Paypal, the seller will get the money immediately and they can pull it from their account whenever they want. Thus Paypal would have to pay the money back out of their own pockets.Now googlepaypal "buyer protection" scamand tell me: how much would you bet that the buyers will get their money back? According to their terms, Paypal will not have to pay anything, if there is no money left on the sellers account (where they could take the payback-money from). If they pay, it is just goodwill.

author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2015, 10:45:28 pm
content: Quote from: Pinkus on December 21, 2015, 07:45:51 amActually, PayPal introduced pay after delivery last year, so the payment for your item is not withdrawn until a few days after the item is delivered. This gives you plenty of time to inspect the item and initiate a support case if there is a problem.Of course, sellers immediately raised their collective pitchforks:https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/PayPal-s-PAY-AFTER-DELIVERY-Evil-News/td-p/20554120

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2015, 11:37:15 pm
content: Aaah - pay after delivery. This is something new. They did not apply this in Europe (yet), thus I did not know.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2015, 11:50:15 am
content: QuoteDon't know about pay after delivery, but when I started selling they wouldn't let me withdraw any money for some period (which I can't recall how long). I assume that applies to everyone - until you're a trusted seller you can't take the money and run. And, in fact, I did a BIN on some scam item but got my money back as the seller wasn't allowed to touch it until after it failed to be delivered (and, of course, not then!). This would be more than a year ago.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2015, 07:06:26 pm
content: Yes, when selling on eBay, PayPal holds the money for a good long while. Felt like around a month. You can see the amount, but it's in pending status until they release the funds.

author: TheSteve
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 23, 2015, 09:05:46 pm
content: Quote from: bitseeker on December 23, 2015, 07:06:26 pmThis is only when you are a new seller. Once established you get the funds instantly.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2015, 07:17:49 pm
content: Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification. I don't sell stuff that often.