State Of Electronics Documentary - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2015, 03:52:05 am
content: http://www.stateofelectronics.com/I'll update this post as Karl releases the videos:

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2015, 06:36:49 am
content: Cool series. Thanks, Dave. Looking forward to the next episodes.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 21, 2015, 07:56:50 am
content: Another part added. Won't embed for some reason

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 27, 2015, 06:23:32 am
content: New video added!

author: SteveLy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2015, 06:43:36 am
content: Nice one. Thanks Dave!

author: rickselectricalprojects
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2015, 05:53:34 am
content: cant wait till the next one

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 08, 2015, 10:06:08 am
content: Another two episodes!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 14, 2015, 12:27:58 pm
content: Part 2 of the magazines is now up

author: nuno
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2015, 12:52:10 pm
content: I do enjoy the content, very nice work. If you can you hint Karl at lowering the background music volume that would be a big plus

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 12:21:21 pm
content: Two more videos up!

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2015, 12:55:39 pm
content: Jesus! I hadn't watched any of these until now. The psychological effect is not entirely unlike enduring an episode of Sponge Bob Square Pants. I now feel like I need ADHD medication. 3 episodes later and I've been informed of practically nothing at all!

author: SteveLy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2015, 03:50:54 pm
content: The creator of this series needs to understand that the content is what matters: the people in front of the camera and what they have to say. It's not about him, his production values/shortcomings, youtube ratings etc. If the film maker really believes in what they are doing then they will just put it out there and let the body of work speak for itself.[This post is more a response to youtube comment by the author threatening to pull the plug than to any other posts on this thread.]

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2015, 09:32:47 pm
content: Quote from: SteveLy on October 29, 2015, 03:50:54 pmThat's what I was thinking given that the series I started viewing was based on "several years of researching, interviewing and filming".The fundamental problem with the filmmakers approach, as far as I see it, is that it appears that his primary concern is to make something that is emotionally engaging rather than something that is simply interesting and informative. (hence the complained-about interminable and repetitive music intended to hypnotize, amongst other things).

author: SteveLy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 06:57:28 am
content: @GK: I very much disagree about this series is not being "informative" enough, with your spongebob comments and your guesses at the film maker's intentions. The content is great, the people interviewed are great, what they have to say is great: there is a lot of good history and inspiration there. There is some good cutting edge science too, like in the surface science lab "Silanna" episode.I'd love to just see the interviews raw, one by one.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 08:19:43 am
content: I watched the magazine episodes and the "hunters and collectors" one. The crazy editing was the cause of my Sponge Bob comment (genuinely the first parallel that popped into my head); editing which I might add you declared "quite maddening" in that other thread about this video series. But if you insist that we "very much disagree" on all points then OK then, I'm not one to argue.The subject material may be great, but I still I didn't find those 3 episodes particularly informative, and I don't think that's an unfair criticism. I haven't watched any other episodes yet as I'm on a limited monthly download quota.

author: digitalhack
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 10:31:29 am
content: For a while I have let comments be and just sit back and enjoy the fruits of my labour. However tonight I felt like saying something, something in my own defence.I make these episodes free for you to watch on YouTube. They took me 5 years to complete - five very long years of negotiating, working with people to organise copyright, access, attribution, 100's of hours of editing time, acquiring images, documentation, meeting people, telling people, trying to get help from anyone ... anyone at ALL ... so that I could interview, investigate and play fair with their image, their PERSONAL image .... all while I am trying to earn a living as a commercial film director. NO ONE IN THE WORLD has attempted TO TELL YOUR STORY like this! That's because you have not taken the notice of anyone except me. The process is in fact STILL continuing. So why do you condemn a project like this?? OK we all have differences in opinion when it comes to creative style, editing pace, music choice and the like but for heavens sake, you shoot down the only person who takes an interest?? I find your review of my work completely arrogant and immature. Your pathetic appraisal and criticism is so far removed from your expertise that it is embarrassing! I don't tell you to use a 1/4 watt 22 ohm resistor, mandatory in your work so why tell me to go look at other filmmakers work to learn some sort of lesson @GK?? In answer to your query, the editing pace is set by what people say, and the music choice is governed by what I can access for FREE on YouTube. No music is BORING!! Its as simple as that. The combined voice of the many (as apposed to the voice of only a few, is a far more powerful approach in my opinion however I will release longer uncut version if the interviewees agree to it - mostly the will NOT - that is not up to me). I haven't and will not inject myself into the series as some sort of "expert". I find this comment utterly disgraceful: "It's not about him, his production values/shortcomings, youtube ratings etc" says @SteveLy. Firstly when have I ever made myself out to be all important?? .... my production values and ... what short comings?? Perhaps you care to elaborate?? YouTube ratings???... well I think well all know how poor they are so I fail to see the point. That's a direct reflection on all of us did you know!If your not keeping up then go switch the channel or maybe take a look at my profile first! I suggest an alternative approach:Be kind. Be supportive. Be fair. Be understanding that this project exists because I am the only one paying for it. I am an enthusiast with a passion for electronics. Be aware that I will stop at any point that I see fit. Be supportive of my work in the future if you would like to see any of it AT ALL! Do I make myself clear? I had always intended this to be a documentary - a longer project where the content would be more relaxed. However, the edits I showed people were condemned for being too slow, too niche and too indulgent to be of any commercial concern. So you can see my predicament here. I took it to the world using every commercial avenue available to me. So far, that's been a tough road. I had hoped to use YouTube and bloggers like Dave to help get this project off the ground. People are looking at the comments (important people) and what they see are YOUR comments! So you are unfortunately my biggest problem now. Between trolls, vindictive comments on omissions (on my NO budget it is impossible to interview everybody), demands on style (YOUR comments) and all sorts of other insanely stupid stuff (racism), the real market research, YOU are killing any chance of this project from EVER making it! Do you understand??To the EEVBlopg community. Please support the project. It is an important project which deserves a chance. Right now I have a largely tepid response. Far too tepid to take to market. I need your support on YouTube by Subscribing to the channel, watching the episodes when you can and hitting that "Like" button. If you have a genuine complaint or comment with regard to style, manner or tone, or any other genuine concern, I am big enough to take it on the chin but don't let that be your ONLY comment. Be supportive, contribute, and help construct the ultimate geek experience in the future. Importantly, we need to change the future, help governments and organisations realise the importance of education, invite new people to the field, create dreams, and understand our desire to innovate and make something. I want to make this documentary. Your support is fundamental to its success. Thank you for your time.Karl von Moller

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 10:40:35 am
content: Don't get me wrong, we appreciate the effort placed into making these videos and we are sharing it everywhere. Thanks!

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 10:56:20 am
content: QuoteWhat audience do you intend the documentary to be for?Who are the people who condemned the edits as being too slow?The problem is the general population has no little or no interest in electronics in general, its history and the people behind it. So, is it true to say you changed the editing to 'Sponge Bob' style? Which after all has been documented as reducing the intelligence of children, for a limited time after watching it.The audience here on the other hand have a deep interest in electronics. They are more than happy to watch a single shot and largely unedited interview which a person of note in the electronics world. Some of the best electronics podcast interviews are life stories, several hours long and make riveting listening.In any event I hope you keep up the work and maybe takes some of the feedback on board.

author: SteveLy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 11:04:14 am
content: Quote from: digitalhack on October 30, 2015, 10:31:29 amMy above comment was in response to this youtube comment by you (I presume):State of ElectronicsWow completely unacceptable!...100 likes and 1000 subscribers by next week or I guarantee you I won't post anything more!

author: digitalhack
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 11:39:19 am
content: I have never responded! Tonight I let my guard down! I'm not in the business of arguing or debating. 100 likes or 1000 subscribers is a goal I need to attain and I might add I have failed! So despite that I still put forward another episode! Why do you even question what audience?? Surely any audience is good right?? Who are you to intermediate anyway?? I ask this because you are directly challenging me now. You presume far too much about the general population "the general population has no little or no interest in electronics in general" - thats an incredibly arrogant thing to say! Instead of presuming, just take it on the chin and accept that it's a challenge. Progress from there. Inform people without hindering them. What you are doing is committing people to think there is no choice when there is. The "sponge bob" argument is insanely stupid and subjective and by the way not the majority so your completely on your own there. Hands up anybody that thinks this is true?? If so I will stop immediately!

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 11:51:35 am
content: Quote from: digitalhack on October 30, 2015, 10:31:29 amYes, that there is a strong emotional engagement on your behalf to achieve something beyond just producing an interesting and informative documentary series is blindingly obvious. It comes through strongly in much of what you have produced thus far and I think that it is preventing you from making something as potentially worthwhile as it could be out of the resources that you have available. Simply put, I think the final product would be better if your goals were more focused and a little less grandiose."Your pathetic appraisal and criticism is so far removed from your expertise that it is embarrassing!"The above is my opinion. You can take a chill-pill and maybe entertain the thought that some of the criticism that you have received thus far might actually contain an element of constructive merit, or you can just continue to spit the dummy. I kinda wish I had bitten my tongue here at this point; at this stage I think I'd best make for the exit.

author: digitalhack
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:13:44 pm
content: @GK yes it is like spitting the dummy - surely you can see the investment in time and effort for that reason?? To have such abrasive comments interject what was supposed to be a discussion - where you are perfectly free to comment and pass criticism in a constructive way. However that's not what I see taking place here and I have a right to think that. You attack me personally, thinking you are safe from reprisal with your "free thoughts" when in fact you are not. Take a chill pill your self dude! If you want to debate me further, send me an email - it should be obvious on how you can contact me - and I will debate this further privately if you want ... or NOT! What I absolutely object to is that you would attempt to provocatively challenge me without having the decency of addressing me by name or in way that I could even listen to your argument, by saying things on this forum! I deplore this kind of action and you are most certainly free to discuss this in person. Stop denigrating my project, my name and the industry! If you want engagement you will address me in the proper manner, politely and without prejudice.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:21:54 pm
content: QuoteIf you say so.QuoteIs this some kind of threat?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:25:18 pm
content: Quote from: SteveLy on October 30, 2015, 06:57:28 amI'm sure Karl will correct me if I am wrong, but I think the "raw" videos might not be what people think they are.As I recall it, Karl had a list of questions for all of us interviewee's based on the concept he had at the time for the edited (feature length) documentary (which I guess the concept has has morphed a lot over time?).So I suspect a bulk of the "raw" videos would just be the interviewers answering the same questions as that was the intention at the time? I recall it wasn't all that "conversational", but that could be different for the other interviewee's who are legends with big stories to tell. I think Karl just got me for filler materialI like to see the full interviews too if there are some good stories in there that can be stitched together.But I suspect the material is best suited to being edited as a multi-person story based narrative as Karl is doing.The material is likely quite different to my very "conversational" and totally unprepared interview with Colin Mitchell (also in Karl's series) were I just hit record and we chatted about whatever for 4 hoursBTW, I can attest to the amount of work and money Karl has spent on this, and it's phenomenal.

author: digitalhack
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:33:16 pm
content: Dude I am not in the business of fucking with you! Get it? Think about what you say for a moment ... Think about how that might effect someone ... don't be provocative without cause. I'm not your enemy?? I'm simply someone who is putting everything out there as "they" say it, not me. It's never been about me or my "career" or Youtube views etc. It's about YOUR industry and where its going and where its come from ... If you think my shouting is threatening stop and look at your own verbal diarrhea for a change.

author: digitalhack
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:40:13 pm
content: Dave I am sorry for stepping in ... stepping into your forum but the responses and criticism I have seen is quite unbelievable. I need a lot of support right now to see this through. As I explained, I'm right at the edge where I cannot continue for so many reasons. To have such argumentative, abrasive types challenge me directly, push me into a creative direction or otherwise is not acceptable. I am sorry, but the fact is, without support from you guys, I cannot continue. The current episodes will conclude and I will post them without further notice. You were never just a filler - more to the point - you were a strong, to the point contributor with a lot of panache and style

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:40:24 pm
content: My view is as follows, which may be over simplistic in you opinion.You have a resource, namely all the time and effort in recording the interviews.Then you have various markets/audiences for which you wish aim for. It is then a matter of editing for your selected market or producing two or more versions, if you want cater for more than one market.Of source, as it is you own project you are free to do as you like.An example would be the different versions of Wolfgang Petersen's Das Boot.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:44:03 pm
content: I think the best part of these videos are the massive extra work put into getting the cutaway footage to the extra's with acting and shots that are fully tied into the narrative.This is professional level stuff and a massive amount of workShows the chalk and cheese difference between a hack like me that presses record and uses whatever footage I get, and a true professional videographer and film maker.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:48:21 pm
content: Quote from: digitalhack on October 30, 2015, 12:33:16 pmYou're attributing comments to me now that I did not make. This is an open, public discussion forum. You have produced some media and put it into the public domain. People will invariably exercise their freedom to pass comment on said work. Some commentary might be favorable and some might be critical. The latter is just something that you will need to learn to deal with.I think the posted comments most detracting from your project in either this thread or the other one so far are your own.

author: digitalhack
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:51:04 pm
content: @GK fuck you! Leaving the conversation now!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 12:55:48 pm
content: Quote from: digitalhack on October 30, 2015, 12:40:13 pmKarl, I'm so upset by all this, I know the amount of work and passion you have put into this, and it makes me saddened that people's comments have made you want to drop this whole thingI know it sounds unrealistic, but you really have to simply ignore people. To drop the project you are so passionate about because of a few bad comments and/or lack of views would be an absolute travesty of the work you have put into this.Please don't drop it, the vast vast majority of people think your stuff is great. Do understand that most viewers are the "silent majority" that do not comment or thumbs up etc. Think of every view as a positive comment in itself.

author: digitalhack
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 01:08:05 pm
content: Dave it is so very hard to continue. I have never known so much resistance to a project, an idea or otherwise. Excuse my ignorance. Personally I love the project and would love to continue on but without support (I have had a lot of setbacks recently) it gets increasingly more difficult. Today I met another incredible individual, who I know would add a lot to the series, a young very bright individual with a great career in electronics retailing, who has agreed to an interview but the future of the series lies in doubt. I do want to interview him because he will provide a lot of hope, energise opportunity for others to create something amazing. Because of the Melbourne Cup weekend and because I need to take stock, I will not post a new episode to the channel next week.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 01:18:19 pm
content: Quote from: digitalhack on October 30, 2015, 12:51:04 pmSo I guess "We'll have to agree to disagree" is old fashioned now?

author: GNU_Ninja
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 01:24:46 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on October 30, 2015, 01:13:57 pmYeah, from the NSA, probablyBut seriously; I've been watching those videos and subscribed to the channel too; interesting stuff, keep up the good work Karl

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 01:30:20 pm
content: I'm one of the (mostly) silent majority and, yes, have been enjoying them very much.Are they what I was hoping to see when I first heard about it a few years ago? No, not by a long shot - I'm guessing that there was just no commercial (or even government/ABC?) interest in your original concept? It's pretty clear that you've had to make major changes to your plan just to be able to get anything out at all, and I'm extremely thankful that you've continued on with what is obviously a labour of love and didn't just leave it in the cupboard. I know a few people on the edge of film/TV docoland, & I know just how often that happens...Be assured that, if I hadn't sworn off ever getting a Facebook/YouTube login, I'd give you all the likes / thumbs-ups I could. Looking forward to more.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 01:48:27 pm
content: Quote from: digitalhack on October 30, 2015, 01:08:05 pmThat's the harsh reality of Youtube and the forums I'm afraid, it's likely a different world to what you are used to in professional circles. People speak without filters, and the ones with something to complain about are always the most vocal. This happens in countless forum threads on all sorts of topics, so you shouldn't take it personally.The most important thing to be aware of is that the resistance you talk about, whilst it might seem demoralising, is actually a very small percentage.As I said, most will not bother to give a positive feedback even if they like it. In the professional Youtuber world this situation is so dire we have to resort to the (desperate) "call to action", where you have to practically plead with people at the end of every video to comment/like/subscribe etc. And even when you do do that, you are lucky if you get a few percent of viewers who will engage by liking or commenting.Your videos are getting about that same percentage of thumbs up vs views as mine and other successful channels, so this is perfectly normal.Comments on the videos are good, bar from one well known trolling loser who we had to ban from this forum.And your thumbs down are zero for most videos, two at most. And we likely know were one of those comes from!This means your videos are a success! Keep it up.

author: datasheetarchive
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 02:39:15 pm
content: I enjoyed the videos. I would prefer to see them stitched together into a longer format without so much background music. For me the series is a good concept and well produced.

author: Tandy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 04:09:35 pm
content: What it felt like to me was the teaser you get at the start of a documentary with snippets of what is to come in the full programme. In fact that is what I thought the first video was, a collection of clips of what would be found in subsequent videos.I have never seen a documentary presented in this style before, so perhaps that partly accounts for the the discomfort I felt when watching. I had to stop the video every couple of minutes and return to it. It might also be partly an age thing for me, I'm not from the Tl;dr generation that gets information in tiny twitter pieces. I'm in my 40's and am comfortable sitting down with a long reference book and spending a few hours reading it. Perhaps the fast pace sound bytes style would work better for people younger than me?A lot of effort has clearly gone into it and it is an interesting subject, but I hope that both you and those criticising it will realise that whatever you do it will not suit everyone and as a result there will be some that really like to presentation and others that it really doesn't suit. I suggest you either ignore those who don't like it, or try and figure out what it is that people don't like and learn from it for future projects.

author: vk3yedotcom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2015, 08:53:50 pm
content: Karl,Keep going, even in modified form.It is absolutely essential that electronics in Australia has this mirror held up to it.Ignore the knockers.The good news is that people are egotists who love hearing about themselves. Which is what your videos do for most people in electronics.The international comments who say it was exactly the same in their country is a clue to the huge, largely untapped, international audience that awaits if properly promoted.The excellent can be the enemy of the very good. I'll take the very good over nothing any day. Heed the exhortation at the end of Dave's video at:Though painful for a perfectionist and a professional to accept, it is acceptable to tolerate a less time-intensive production style it it means getting stuff out and moreextended stories that would not be told being told. Once above a certain standard (and you're well above it) the audience will enjoy the content and won't beconcerned about production compromises they don't know about.The producer can be (and in fact needs to be) a stern critic, but this does no one any good if it means publishing is abandoned.Instead get it out, promote it well, let the market decide and enjoy the rewards.The 80/20 rule applies very strongly to production values on YouTube. That is provided something has tolerable audio and is shot on something better than a mobile phone, you can getvery high audience numbers if the content is good and it's on a popular channel. Whereas a masterpiece produced to the nth degree, on a less established channel, won't get hugeviewer numbers and may wrongly be regarded as a failure if viewer numbers are compared to production effort.Here's an example. I have a niche channel with over a million views and several thousand subscribers. It's a loyal constituency; over 10% will shell out to buy an ebook onthe topic days after its release. To the extent this can be considered successful, numbers were slowly built up over 7 years on video, 18 years on the web and 25 years of articlesin magazines. Anything put on this channel, no matter how basically produced, will get hundreds of views in a matter of days, with the big ones getting in to the tens of thousands.I'm small fry compared to Dave's channel which is maybe 100 times bigger. Almost everyone with reasonable or better viewer numbers spent years preparing the ground and buildinga viewer / reader base. Looking at numbers of views, any video produced by Dave will get a minimum of 10 000 views, with 50 000+ being common. I can't help thinking that ifone of your videos was uploaded via a channel like Dave's it would get big numbers that would more justify the efforts expended.The world is not fair. Production values and effort, though it may gain the respect of professionals, do not automatically generate big ratings in YouTube land. Product placement (eg beingon an established popular channel) is more important provided production quality is above a (fairly basic) minimum standard and content is at least good. And if there was a trade-offbetween the two, a specialised audience will tolerate occasional lapses in production quality if content is excellent or novel.Whereas a 'gatekeeper' eg a publisher or TV station content director might not be so accepting. Provided you've got a good distribution platform (eg Amazon or an established YouTube channel)and good marketing we as content producers can get around these established blocks and even enjoy success, particularly if we understand the market better than (say) an old-style publisher orbroadcaster. That's why independent/niche/specialist writers are doing so much better on Amazon than dead tree books that needed publisher patronage or funds to vanity publish.I'd argue that audience, or more pointedly, 'the pitch' is also important. Could your (now large) body of material be organised into several products that could appeal to particular interests? Maybethere's a dream to sell - whether past or future. It could be a common childhood memory (baby boomers are an affluent market for this). There are people who'd love to return to hobby electronicsand a video like yours could be the catalyst needed. Stories about successful people seem to go down well. Eg '10 self-made Australian electronic millionaires' or local electronic manufacturingsuccess stories. Is there an industry group or association that could help. What about something that inspires entrepreneurial start-ups in electronics? Even a government grant from the localbusiness development department (just yesterday the Vic government was crowing about attracting a start-up conference here)? At least rhetorically politicians are saying that relying on mining isno longer good enough and since the change of leadership there seems to be more openness to this. A video like yours could feed into the thinking needed to get people motivated.I'm rambling but the point is that high video production quality is great (and all-consuming) but will not by itself cause the world to beat a path to your doorstep.It may sometimes be necessary to compromise and redefine the project.But it's too good and too valuable not to keep going with it in some form.

author: hammy
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 31, 2015, 12:16:56 am
content: I watched the videos today and I like it. Please keep going.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2015, 09:18:56 am
content: As somebody outside the Australian industry, but who has seen a similar rise ( and fall) this is a very interesting series, which is common enough with what I have seen to be something I can believe. Nice short shots, nice footage ( not stock stuff, I think you probably have created the first stock electronics footage that is around here, and the production value and the editing on it is very good as well) and you are weaving a good short series out showcasing the various parts of this industry, from the beginnings, the support and the most important part the users and how many got started there.Presented nicely enough, and while you may not get the likes you want simply because the mobile views make it difficult to do so, the series is still interesting to watch.

author: OZ1LQB
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2015, 11:54:19 am
content: Hi..Please dont stop your project..I for one REALY like to se them and doing so made me feel warm inside full ofmemories from my time in sydney(1969-1971) when i would go to redfern to a shopto buy small pcb's with a few transistors from a IBM1401 for only 20c per transistor ,diodes resistors and caps free..realy nice memories..sorry for my bad spelling..Claus in Denmark

author: steve30
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2015, 12:04:35 pm
content: I've just watched the currently available videos and enjoyed them. They were very interesting. They only thing I didn't really like was that many of the short clips are only a couple of seconds long, which doesn't give me time to see what is in the clip, and certainly not enough time to admire the electronics pr0n in them.I look forward to seeing the rest.

author: Joule Thief
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2015, 05:45:08 pm
content: +1the content is interestingthe short clips were a distraction and interrupted some great stories (the hot wax in the kitchen short for example).

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2015, 06:36:37 pm
content: I am enjoying them as well and stayed up until late until 6am watching most of them.That said, not everyone likes everything and that's ok. But I'm on the list of people that want to see how it progresses.

author: Tim F
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2015, 11:11:37 pm
content: Quote from: digitalhack on October 30, 2015, 01:08:05 pmWhile some people are just trolls who serve no purpose than to rub you up the wrong way, I think you're overreacting as a whole. Engineers are a funny type that just want to be given 'the electronics porn' without any foreplay. That's why EEVBlog is so popular! I would try not to take offense to the commenters who don't appreciate the production value of the videos.I really enjoyed the Silanna episode. Thanks for putting in the time to get these videos out there

author: SLJ
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2015, 01:43:46 am
content: Don't stop.There will alway be critics, many that hide behind their keyboards that have never produced anything themselves that are more than willing to tell someone else to go jump off a cliff. Don't take it personal. Don't get upsetand don't feed the trolls. Read the criticisms, decide for yourself which might have some validity, make changes if you see fit but definitely keep going with what you want it to be. If some don't like it so what. Some will and the only one that really counts as to if the final production conveys what was intended is you. Welcome to the Internet.Oh, one more thing, I enjoy them but find the number of short clips distracting at times.

author: SteveLy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2015, 01:39:13 pm
content: How good is the latest video!Jaycar Melbourne are still hanging in there, where as recently as last Saturday both the young lady and guy behind the counter were totally on the ball as I was looking for components for a 1980s CRO repair job; @Gary Johnston, they deserve a raise!

author: electrophiliate
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2015, 06:50:58 am
content: These videos are bringing back some old but (mostly) pleasant memories.Keep them coming!

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2015, 08:34:04 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on November 01, 2015, 12:05:33 amPretty much this. GK wasn't rude or trolling, just providing his point of view. If that is "harsh" criticism to you, you need to take a chill pill and wash it down with a healthy dose of perspective.Personally, I too find the constant background music and short cuts very off putting, and I actually have ADHD! It's a shame, because what the people have to say is very interesting and the reenactments are very well done!Like others have said, the two videos I've seen so far feel more like the intro to or a promo for a documentary, rather than an actual documentary.I think the if these were re-edited to provide a more consistent, less flashy package they would be perfect.Or, you could take your ball and go home while crying about the spilt milk.Sent from my Tablet

author: SteveLy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2015, 10:55:05 am
content: Quote from: timb on November 20, 2015, 08:34:04 amThe latest videos clearly show that Karl is listening to viewers' criticisms. For example, the music is unobtrusive, more varied and pleasant compared to earlier episodes. I love quiet classical piano backdrop to the conversation in the latest episode - I mean we get Dick Smith to Beethoven! To ask for a complete re-edit of earlier episodes is asking for too much IMHO and would set back progress on the rest of the series. Editing videos is a lot of work.

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2015, 11:04:09 am
content: Quote from: SteveLy on November 21, 2015, 10:55:05 amI haven't gotten to the latest videos yet and was only responded to the creator's original posts here, which were honestly a huge turn off and made me not want to watch anymore on principle alone.It's good to see he's responding to criticism and changing things. However, it doesn't matter how good the latest videos are if his potential audience is turned off after the first couple of videos and stops watching.Personally, I would prefer the whole thing to be released as one long documentary instead of these small chunks.Either way, I do appreciate the effort that's gone into producing these. It's clear a lot of blood sweat and tears has gone into making them. Even if the style (but not the content) isn't for me.Sent from my Tablet