CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 12:26:55 pm
content: I think we should have a thread for the products introduced at CES2018 that stand out as true innovations/good/bad/plain ugly/disasters.Here's one I spotted for the latter category:The iKeyp smart safe...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42634501/ces-2018-ikeyp-smart-safe-proves-easy-to-crack-open

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 12:30:50 pm
content: ... and one that probably qualifies for the first category... The LGlargerollable OLED screen...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42600884/ces-2018-lg-display-shows-off-large-rollable-tv-screen

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 12:41:49 pm
content: Quote from: Gyro on January 10, 2018, 12:30:50 pmThey've been promising and demoing rollable OLED for what, 20 years now?

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 12:46:22 pm
content: I suspect that it's the first time they've done it with something as big as a 65" 4k one though. That's pretty impressive - maybe move it to the 'good' category then.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 12:59:09 pm
content: Maybe a 'Questionable' category too...The Kodak Cryptocurrency KodakCoin / Bitcoin miner:Quotehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42630136

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 01:10:37 pm
content: Kodak really know how to fuck up a brand at this point.

author: BrianHG
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 01:14:30 pm
content: Quote from: Gyro on January 10, 2018, 12:59:09 pm

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 05:57:19 pm
content: Just watched the video on the iKeyp safe, so much fail there.Clearly the 'p' at the end stands for Piece of ....I expected better from a major consumer electronics show, this is Indigogo quality.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 06:57:25 pm
content: The rollable OLED screen is cool, but I can't imagine actually needing one. Just give me a nice big reliable OLED monitor with a sturdy frame and a bunch of HDMI inputs. I don't need gimmicks, I don't want it curved, I don't care about 3D, it doesn't have to be any thinner than the thickest part, I don't want "smart" features built in, I just want a monitor with a great picture.Having it rollable is just going to make it more expensive and complex, add many additional potential failure points and you need a bulky box for it to roll up into along with the mechanical bits. It could be handy in a few niche custom installs but it's mostly a status symbol.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 08:06:23 pm
content: I agree completely about potential failure points etc., however the way screen sizes are exploding at the moment, it might be a solution to the huge light sucking black rectangle. That's assuming that we don't start leaving them on with a scenic screensaver the whole time! Other potential solutions will doubtless appear.For now, I'll stick with my old projector for the big screen experience.

author: GreggD
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 08:31:39 pm
content: Flashlight(torch) candle or some sort of light.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 09:09:28 pm
content: It looks as if the Technology has started revolting now - too many light suckers, it must bereallydark in there!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42639780

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 09:54:06 pm
content: Quote from: Gyro on January 10, 2018, 12:26:55 pmA plastic box that tells you your stuff is gone sounds like a great idea. It's almost as if they were trying to build a poster child for IoT failures.As a side note, ever noticed how many permissions and scripts the BBC site requires to run? As long as you just read articles it's not so bad, but don't try to actually play a video.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 10:02:50 pm
content: We get a different BBC site here in the U.K. without all the crap on it so I’m happy

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 10:19:21 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on January 10, 2018, 10:02:50 pmI'm talking about the UK site, though the international one is just as bad.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 10:32:33 pm
content: Ah I’ve got ublock running. Seems to kill all that.Apparently there was a massive power failure at CEShttps://techcrunch.com/2018/01/10/the-day-the-lights-went-out-at-ces/

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 10:52:23 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on January 10, 2018, 10:32:33 pmThat's the problem, you need to allow all sorts of things before a simple video can play. It's not about the crap thrown at you, it's the crap you need to allow to get anywhere. Some sites are much worse than others and the BCC site seems to be consistently terrible. It has been for years.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 10:53:24 pm
content: Quote from: Gyro on January 10, 2018, 08:06:23 pmSet the TV into the wall and have doors, curtains, a painting, etc close over it when not in use. If one really wanted a fancy disappearing setup it wouldn't be hard in many situations to mount a big TV like a pocket door that vanishes into a slot down into a piece of furniture or into the wall. I think the rollup screen will fill the same niche market, rich people who are willing to pay high prices for cute gimmicks they can show off in their media room.It will probably only have 2 or 3 HDMI inputs too, and a horrid integrated "smart" system that is hopelessly obsolete after 2 or 3 years, and a user interface that makes it as difficult as possible to switch inputs.

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 11, 2018, 02:54:09 am
content: update on the cause of the blackout from the link above.Quote

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2018, 03:16:02 am
content: Quote from: station240 on January 11, 2018, 02:54:09 amAww...I was hoping it was a bunch of IOT wank appliances that went kerplooy and knocked out the power.EDIT: Maybe their "smart transformer" got a virus and they just said it was rain.I just hope that doesn't ever actually happen.

author: Avacee
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 12, 2018, 11:28:12 am
content: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42658211/ces-2018-hushme-mask-lets-users-make-private-callsEdit: Actually ... these should be compulsory if you want to use your phone on a plane or train ....

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2018, 11:49:07 am
content: Oh I don't know, I can think of the odd prominent figure who would benefit from one of those!

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2018, 01:33:56 pm
content: Certainly an improvement from that giant Cone of Silence. Now if they can just build it into a shoe...

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2018, 01:53:46 am
content: Quote from: Gyro on January 10, 2018, 12:59:09 pmLooks just like a rebadged Antminer, complete with the exposed top part of the PCBs that make it harder to stack them.8 months to breaking even isn't good at all for an ASIC box. Such a payback period would be acceptable for GPUs that have other uses. (I personally broke even on my Avalon 4.1 in about 3 months not counting the substantial increase in Bitcoin price. I miss the days when cheap smartphones would pay for themselves in a week, but smartphone coins tend to be quite short lived.)

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2018, 04:29:35 pm
content: https://gizmodo.com/this-aa-battery-sucks-power-right-out-of-the-air-1821966213EDIT: obviously this goes in the POS catagory.

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 13, 2018, 10:49:04 pm
content: More CES products from the Indigogo Robot department.CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Workhttps://amp.thedailybeast.com/ces-was-full-of-useless-robots-and-machines-that-dont-workRead the article, too much fail to simply into a few quotes.

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 02:57:13 am
content: here is some thingcars without steering wheels or pedals.like to see how you get one on a flatbed tow truck.tie cable around a wheel hub and pull for removal from the street curb.GM’s driverless car without a steering wheel or pedalsGM’s big plans to deploy autonomous vehicles, and right before the detroit Auto Showdriverless cars may benefit a disabled person who is unable to drive

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 08:21:51 am
content: Quote from: station240 on January 13, 2018, 10:49:04 pmI think the title says it all.We’ve got to the point that real practical innovation is pretty difficult to bring to market now. In the 1960s it might take 6 months to develop a new product. In the 1980s a year. Now, the wall to climb over is a decade long one by which time your investors will be out. Ergo people just kick out “burner products” that satisfy the investors with some long term fish-hookery via staged demos. Look at Asimo for example. Zero deliverables. Boston Dynamics kick out stuff more impressive than a robot that falls down stairs on a stage.So we end up with shit that is pointless. They burned that one out so it’s now shit that is pointless that you have to connect to the internet before it works. I don’t need to make coffee in the kitchen from an app. Even I can get off my fat arse and put a kettle on.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 08:20:29 pm
content: Quote from: jonovid on January 15, 2018, 02:57:13 amIn a sense we've had those for a long time, they're called "buses", "taxis" or "trains". If I don't get to drive it myself then I have no interest in owning/parking/maintaining/insuring a car, I'd just use mass transit. I could get a lot of Uber/Lyft rides for the cost of a car payment. I like driving a car though, that's the main reason I own one and put up with the hassle and expense.