eevBLAB 130 - Youtube Are FINALLY Demonetising AI Channels? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 05, 2025, 06:59:04 am
content: It looks like Youtube are finally going to do something about the AI slop channels that are plaguing Youtube and will demonetise them? It's called YOUtube for a reason...

author: .RC.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2025, 12:30:14 am
content: All youtube needs implement is remove all title screens with half exposed boobs usually complete with them on high beam. It has got seriously stupid the sheer amount of that crap.Then remove all title screens with people with their mouths open like they are trying to catch flies.Then remove all title screens with such captions that use stupid hysterical words.I know things will have really gone to rack and ruin when I see an EEV video with a title screen of Dave wearing a t-shirt three sizes too small, his nipples poking out with his mouth open and he is holding up a Hakko handpiece and tip and in bright green letters splashed across the screen is the phrase. OMG! IT WON'T GO IN! with an arrow pointing to the tip.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2025, 03:02:54 am
content: I was curious about why the red view count line went to zero.I was unaware of these channels until now. Although I do actively reject a video with a thumbnail using a picture of a woman dressed to catch the eye. Even if it is an actual woman appearing in the video but dressed in a way not related to the content. ie. just clickbait.I am tired of feeling I am the product and just someone to whom YT can sell an ad slot to. Even though I hardly ever see ads. I know they are there if I didn't try to counter them.I occasionally get sucked down non-AI rabbit-holes in channels that deliver quizes like "how well do you remember the 70's" or "these are the most popular songs of the 80's".But I cannot see how that chemistry (?) channel can generate so many views, notwithstanding the sheer volume of videos. I found it unbearable after a few seconds. I can waste a lot of time on YT but there has to be some limits.

author: .RC.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2025, 07:16:14 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on July 06, 2025, 03:02:54 amDoes a view count as a view if you only watch it for a few seconds?Makes you wonder, is there a business model out there to make an AI bot just view your own videos again and again and again upping the count and making you money in the process?

author: jonpaul
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2025, 08:02:00 am
content: Use the apps that play video without ads every 60 secJon

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2025, 08:14:50 am
content: Now that I watched this video I get a recommendation to This Electroboom video.https://youtu.be/ral8t-sGyqM?si=qAho5w3z1Hxp2_Ol&t=800I cued it to a point where AI is claimed to be used.I hope the two events aren't related and AI is behind the recommendation process. That would be spooky and a sure sign AI is taking over.I have a feeling it might be time to learn a bit about philosophy so I can gain insights into whether I have been sucked into yet another rabbit-hole. Will the world end in the triumph of evil or stupidity? Should I start with Dietrich Bonhoeffer and his theory of stupidity or just go to Nietzsche and have it confirmed that I am.I hope AI is training itself from what I say and write. That would give me hope I can undermine it from within. That would help deal with stupidity and I can leave evil to sow the seeds of its own demise.But I did learn one interesting fact today. Apparently when they were casting the TV show "The Monkees" Charles Manson auditioned. All is not lost in the YT rabbit-hole. That might be bullshit but I did hear it straight from Mickey Dolenz.https://youtu.be/R39x-5p4Zjc?si=LpdOS-Sx75sCfYob&t=168

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2025, 08:40:49 am
content: Quote from: .RC. on July 06, 2025, 07:16:14 amhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_fraudIt's an arms race; if there is a way to fake accesses/views to get money then someone will be writing tools to do it and the website will be writing tools to detect it.So yes, those views might be fake. Or they might be kids. Who knows.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 06, 2025, 08:59:18 am
content: Quote from: .RC. on July 06, 2025, 07:16:14 amThat's always been a closely guarded secret. Rumor has it that no single person at Youtube knows, so it's not possible to leak out and game the system.

author: Peabody
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2025, 02:17:39 pm
content: What's the story on Youtuber "Roel Van de Paar"? He predates AI, but if I'm reading it right, he has 170K subs, and 2 million videos. So chances are it's completely automated. He has a video on everything you can think of dealing with electronics.

author: steve30
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2025, 12:25:04 am
content: Quote from: Peabody on July 06, 2025, 02:17:39 pmRoel's are more like an automatic script which pulls questions/answers off forums (stack exchange?), wraps a random selection of generic video clips around it where he tells you he's "here to help you solve a technical problem" or "maybe its 1 AM and a problem occurred" or "drink more apple juice" or "subscribe" etc, and add in some library music -> DONE.I must admit, I admire his effort and his creativity in coming up with such a scheme. The fact that he is a real person and actually filmed the generic video clips himself actually gives the videos much more 'credibility' than all this AI rubbish.Whilst I don't like seeing this stuff on Youtube, when it comes to banning it, I think I'll make an exception for Roel.Edit: Just remembered, he even has a Patreon!

author: Peabody
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2025, 03:20:49 am
content: The real question is what do his 170K subscribers do about the dozens of new video notifications they get every day. And why would anybody want to be his subscriber?I have a uBlockOrigin script that blocks all Youtube shorts. I wonder if I can also make it block all Roel van de Paar in search results. Maybe I should ask that on StackExchange. :-)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 07, 2025, 05:25:26 am
content: Quote from: Peabody on July 06, 2025, 02:17:39 pmSo he does, can't say I've ever seen them.They seen to range from zero view to hundreds of views.

author: Simmed
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2025, 06:56:10 am
content: it is weirdly interestinglooking at his oldest videosso he started spurting videos about 6 years agothat is like 2200 days ago = like ~900 clips a day ?geeezus 900 ?

author: Per Hansson
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 07, 2025, 09:18:07 am
content: I got recommended a video about VOR stations by a woman with high beams today on the main page when logged in, AI generated slop with like two views exactly like shown by Dave above.I have never seen such recommendations before when logged in, Google your algorithm is broken

author: www2
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2025, 10:36:51 am
content: Notes that most of this type of video have India, Pakistan, Hong Kong country of origin in there channel descriptions.There is no surprise for me if this channels are link to the same groups that are operate help-desk scams using to pushing there subscription numbers.An other trend that with this channels are subscriber mile stones on there channel description.

author: 5U4GB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2025, 12:52:51 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on July 06, 2025, 03:02:54 amThe AI slop I've seen, and there's a ton of it on YT, is always some form of celebrity-helps-stranger-in-need or someone-turns-on-bullies or good-samaritan-helps-animal-in-distress or similar, usually with hundreds or even thousands of comments saying how much the AI slop garbage affected the person viewing it. Not sure if the comments are more AI slop though.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2025, 09:23:28 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on July 06, 2025, 03:02:54 amThink SEO, some kid will search these questions for their homework, or anyone out of curiosity, and this video will show up at the top of google results. You can try it for yourself. Don't even need to be in the "videos" tab.Quote from: Peabody on July 07, 2025, 03:20:49 amNever used or seen a notification ever, I assume you are talking about email notifications? They should be off by default.Quote from: EEVblog on July 06, 2025, 08:59:18 amIts fairly well established that 30s view time is required, unless its a short, then there is no minimum watch time:https://www.yumyumvideos.com/blog/what-counts-as-a-view/As to how that actually feeds into the algorithm, and if your video is 30min long and 99% of people only watch 31s of it, will it be more likely to be flagged as bot views, will it be promoted, no idea.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2025, 09:43:02 pm
content: There are good AI channels. There is this deepfake channel where Obi Wan Kenobi and other characters watch Star Wars content and react on how ridiculous it is. It's genuinely funny and it wouldn't happen without the guy having access to some AI powered deepfake algorithm.But youtube always goes with broad policies, and it's likely going to kill channels like this, because there is no subtlety with it.

author: steve30
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2025, 07:38:39 am
content: AI can be put to some fun uses. Here's a really good drug commercial spoof someone made:https://www.dvxuser.com/threads/drug-commercial-spoof.5712645/Well worth a watch (the faults in the AI picture aren't blindingly obvious if you think of it more as a drug commercial and less of an AI video).