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author: u666sa
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2019, 08:06:15 pm
content: Welding with 999.9% gold?

author: Yansi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2019, 08:09:43 pm
content: And what kind of industrial espionage this is?

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2019, 09:29:07 pm
content: Pretty sure it’s a Keysight oscilloscope of some kind.Welding?

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2019, 10:37:33 pm
content: Welding is the chinese translation of soldering.Looks like some relatively standard equipment, nice fume extractors, scope as mentioned, cheap soldering stations.You can find similar equipment in many places:https://www.systech-design.com/product/chemical-fume-extraction-arm-w-gas-spring/Since the video is not linked I'm not sure what its about, but the 'gold soldering' looks like normal solder and a gold plated board no?

author: Urs42
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 07, 2019, 12:26:28 pm
content: The soldering station on the table looks like it was made by Pace, not really cheap...I did find the Video:Google translate of the title: Anti-nuclear strike. Military acceptance

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2019, 02:24:02 pm
content: The soldering station at the workstations are Pace ST25 with PS80 or PS90 soldering irons. These have been used industrial and military settings for decades, Dave happens to own one as well, a black enclosure version of it.Even though Pace still sells it, they have had a couple of newer technology cartridge based stations since. The Pace ADS200 with the TD200 iron is their most recent model, which goes for around $200 in the US.

author: u666sa
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2019, 05:34:58 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on December 06, 2019, 10:37:33 pmPardon.. scope as mentioned bu who?Is it lomo or carl?

author: u666sa
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2019, 05:49:00 pm
content: Do any of the boards look like part of the most advanced radar technology in the world capable of detecting space junk in space less than 5 inches in diameter? Because there is a possibility those boards are from some old vhs player to make the show and otherwise are not related to radar. Keep in mind, boards have to survive emp.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 07, 2019, 06:02:41 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on December 06, 2019, 10:37:33 pmSoldering station is Pace ST-25/ ST-30 or very similar model which is not cheap at all.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2019, 08:25:16 pm
content: Quote from: u666sa on December 07, 2019, 05:34:58 pmWhat are you talking about?It was me who said it was a Keysight scope. Keysight, not lomo or carl or whatever.

author: u666sa
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2019, 08:03:21 am
content: Quote from: tooki on December 07, 2019, 08:25:16 pmOK.. Now I see where it went wrong.. I thought about microscope when scope was mentioned, as it is common to call it scope in Russia. Opposite in Australia, lul!I see, oscilloscope is probably Keysight... But what about microscope?

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 08, 2019, 09:38:25 am
content: Microscope is МБС-10 made by ЛЗОСhttp://www.lzos.ru/.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2019, 10:12:30 am
content: Quote from: u666sa on December 08, 2019, 08:03:21 amNot just in Australia. It's just what it's called in English, period. Bear in mind that it's a bit contextual: if you're talking to hunters, they'll use the word "scope" to mean a rifle sight. In electronics, it's short for oscilloscope.* Maybe to astronomers, it's short for telescope? I have never heard microscope shortened to "scope" in English, though.*Except for in television broadcasting, where they use two specialized oscilloscopes, which have special names: one is called a "waveform monitor" (and works much like a normal triggered oscilloscope, simply designed to trigger on various parts of the waveform), and the other a "vectorscope" (which is a specialized X-Y oscilloscope).

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2019, 02:28:30 am
content: Quote from: wraper on December 07, 2019, 06:02:41 pmSorry, looks like a cheapie, compared to the other gear in there:https://www.accessotronik.com/product_p/8007-0528_p101.htm"Economical" it is.

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2019, 04:10:32 am
content: Quote from: MasterTech on December 07, 2019, 06:07:27 pmSpaceX needs to work on something like this, make it land at the other end and a crate of stuff pops out and then it takes off again. It would be used to deliver stuff.I'm just picturing all these rockets launching and landing at Amazon HQ.

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2019, 09:46:47 am
content: The oscilloscope is an Agilent DSO6034. I should know, I was using one today in fact.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2019, 10:45:04 am
content: Quote from: thm_w on December 10, 2019, 02:28:30 amThe fact that some cheapie soldering equipment manufacturers have copied Pace’s aesthetic doesn’t mean Pace is cheap. Pace is a high end soldering company whose core customers have been military, aerospace, and production from the beginning, more than 50 years ago. Their equipment is no-nonsense, without frilly designs, and instead focusing on reliability and consistency.

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2019, 05:09:15 am
content: Quote from: tooki on December 10, 2019, 10:45:04 amYep Pace makes good equipment - been around since Adam was a boy and they are robust. But JBC irons and desoldering stations are really the best out there. Expensive but excellent technical design and superb reliability. Worth every cent for the professional.When I walk into a company and they have Hakko equipment, I see they were saving a few dollars rather than investing in quality.... often an exercise in false economy or ignorance. Same with side cutters. You cannot beat Tronex for value and quality. Expensive - yes. But an order of magnitude superior to the average "quality" side cutters. Like JBC, once you use Tronex, you'd never go back.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 11, 2019, 06:08:14 am
content: Quote from: VK3DRB on December 11, 2019, 05:09:15 amExcept tip reliability. If you want tips to last, go somewhere else. Great for repair or development, not so great for production.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2019, 07:00:08 am
content: Quote from: MasterTech on December 07, 2019, 06:07:27 pmHoly crap, try to intercept this one ...

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2019, 11:20:09 am
content: Quote from: tooki on December 08, 2019, 10:12:30 amBack in the day, analog oscilloscopes in Australia were most commonly called "CROs".In the 1960s,"Scope" was a commonly used brand of soldering iron in this country, so that when a Brit asked to use the "scope", I directed him to the soldering iron, to the resulting bemusement of both of us.The term "scope" has now become common as a generic term for an Oscilloscope of any type.As for "Scope" brand soldering irons, you see a few around from time to time, but they have become quite rare.

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2019, 02:24:31 pm
content: Quote from: VK3DRB on December 11, 2019, 05:09:15 amIt's not as clear cut as it was a couple of years back. The latest Pace ADS200 120W station is calibration free, accurate, robust and I think easier to read and operate across the bench than the JBC CDB stations. The Pace station comes with a cool running aluminum handpiece that gives a shorter working distance.Performance wise it's close but JBC tips seem to have less plating and its heating profile is more aggressive by default than the Pace when approaching set temp, this is a good or a bad thing depending on which angle you look at it. Station aesthetics goes to JBC but Paces station, stand and handpiece win out on durability. The Pace ADS200 currently has a lowest cost of ownership of any cartridge based station, likely the best handpiece ever made.Best it not try to be, but powerful and fast it is... mmmm.