853D SMD Rework Station "Advice" - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: blackice504
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 10, 2014, 02:29:30 am
content: Hello, just looking around for Rework Station for BGA, mainly to learn and keep my self out of trouble and to build a death machine.......or Doomsday Devicehttp://www.ebay.com.au/itm/853D-SMD-DC-Power-Supply-Hot-Air-Iron-Gun-Rework-Soldering-Welder-3in1-Station-/111442249414?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item19f279c6c6it lookssimilarto Dave's Favorite brand YiHua after all it's build with the best recycled parts lol....but not and that is why i like this one but it seems a little crazy that its 3 in 1.......I don't know it could be good, sure it handy but how many corners did they cut to make it 3 in 1.Anyway has anyone tested this done a tare down.Keep in mind my main reason to get this is to get some experience with BGA / SMD.Things i like about this Rework station, its in a nice size box so if anything does go wrong it should be easy to repair or replace stuff. "In Theory"Has lots of knobs and buttons.Segment Display reliable and easy to replace.Comes with some tips "most things that come with drill bits or tips in this case or something like that are normally shit but gives me time to replace them with good ones and often last for a few uses"comes with Nozzels for SMD / BGAsoldering iron uses same pin out as Hakkoreplaceable soldering iron.Soldering iron Holder with sponge.de-soldering wick handy.Handy PSU for low current. "i would not think of using anything that needed allot of current as i would use my other PSU's for that"The Price.Things i don't like or worried about.It looks similar to Yihua.Piss ant binding posts. "I have some nice PSU's anyway"The Iron's connector is the wrong way around it should be the female connector on the box for safety "true 12 volts / low current is not going to harm you " but what if something internal goes wrong thus female connector normally used"i have no idea why they give probes with this i guess it was cheaper then clips but they look real nasty not that i would use it. "1000v Rated my ass"It has a TO-3 Possible Transistor / VR on the back in Australia they more expensive to get because most people tend to use TO-220. "but they can take more of a beating then T0-220" if i need to replace it.Amp Meter has no mirror plus its old school. "could replace that"Thank you.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 11, 2014, 03:27:47 pm
content: Everybody ignored you aye , tells ya what one wants a lot for $109If one already has not? , do a search within the forum and one will find 3 or so threads about ..

author: blackice504
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:41:44 am
content: Quote from: GEuser on November 11, 2014, 03:27:47 pmHelloThis is not a Yihau brand like the one you got itLooks Similaras stated and i did use search and did not find anything that was like the one i was looking at hence i posted!, but i did find photos of your Yihau brand thanks for that gives me an idea as they are Similar. "possibly made in the same place"since then i found some videos on GTube+ but really a - "sorry could not help my self" with a guy who showed me the guts of it. "mind you this guy said it was magical so i think they might of been on drugs as i seen some issues with it that where crazy but not something that i could not fix my self".I most likely give it a go and write up a review. "but those piss ant banana plugs are first thing to go and that current meter not that i don't like needle its just not a good one"$109 bucks is not that much you right, but i do like its functionality and if there was one more expensive i would rather get that but not seen one. "yes i know the bar graph RF meter is a joke and i would never use that part of it", I mainly like the extra PSU as you can never have too much power until you get the power bill and you live in Australia........Thanks for your feedback and the photos you uploaded.P.S how is your Yihau SMD station going?

author: Bukurat
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:48:28 am
content: If you get it, check the supplied power cable to make sure it's wired correctly.

author: blackice504
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 07:19:11 am
content: Quote from: Bukurat on November 12, 2014, 05:48:28 amHi there thanks for that info, and i have herd of this on other units but i follow the Dave Rule "Don't Turn it on!!! Take it apaaaart!"Besides there is always good things to find in these devices and i shall upload once i get it, also as bonus i get to test out my new camera, so that is always a good thing.The only down side with Ebay is the waiting........

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 07:52:55 am
content: Quote from: blackice504 on November 12, 2014, 03:41:44 amBold> All good and I still push Murphy's law with it .Yes I still get a laugh too when I use the banana sockets but I don't care , I removed one post as it was annoying , and typing about that Rf bar graph thingo I actually saw that go off the other day for the first time , I had fired up a DECT wireless mic doing some modifications it's around 1.2Ghz I think and I just happened to look up and see something that actually gave me a jump as I have never even bothered with the Rf meter and there it was on full scale and wavering up and down , at first I nearly went to hit the "off" switch but then realized what was going on , anyway so be careful poking around and double check anything imo , I wonder if it'll have the new PCB in there like the other chap had (subrito? or something from memory) ..

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:11:08 am
content: Why not just get the cheapo hot air station and minimise the gamble?You have one of these GE??

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:42:17 am
content: Quote from: Yago on November 12, 2014, 11:11:08 amWhen I got mine I needed a iron and a small extra P/S so it was the all in one .Yep ...

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 12:09:08 pm
content: Quote from: GEuser on November 13, 2014, 06:42:17 amDone that in the past, smarts like a *****!I was lucky in that "incidents and accidents" stuck me infront of EEV blog for >year.Prevented me from jumping on bad buys.OT, apologies GE, I misunderstood your humour/attitude a while ago and was snarky with you.Sorry for that sir, kinda sold us both short

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:35:30 pm
content: Being stuck in front of EEVBlog for a year could do some permanent damage I reckon , maybe we should organize that banky moon should be glued to a LCD screen !QuoteHey enough of that sir thing I had to re- look to see if there was a American flag somewhere , you probably can't help it as its in your genes being English, no dramas here.OT> on Tv generally in a movie but I also see it online a lotStarting with "No disrespect meant Sir" or "You Sir and no disrespect meant" and then nearly all the time what follows is words of disrespect or accusations and if it was in a cowboy situation of old the other dude would have drawn and plugged it straight away , imo of course and funny ! and OT .

author: blackice504
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 09:13:47 pm
content: Just an update the smd solder station will be coming on the 17th / 18th at the latest so i shall be writing a review on it. Keep in mind the RF Meter that is on this unit is already in the Toilet, but i am sure the rest will be fine "found a video on youtube with the RF meter" lets just say it was what i expected but hey i don't even know why this is on here to begin with so it not matter.Also got the 15V Transformer on standby.I will also place a link to the review in here once i write it.i hate waiting...................

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 07:18:23 am
content: When they first started appearing around 3 or 4? years ago they were listed on the bay as a>Mobile phone repair station , mobile phone = RF , = RF presence indicator in a very basic way .

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 10:01:32 am
content: How much can they cram in these things!

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 12:47:24 pm
content: How about adding an espresso machine, automatic nail trimmer/polisher and a toaster oven, which could double as a reflow oven

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 01:08:46 pm
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on November 14, 2014, 12:47:24 pmMy main house oven is used as a Paint Booth and Reflow oven, don't think the mrs likes the kind of chips I cook.

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 01:15:25 pm
content: TBH, when I think back to the kit I started out with , and this would have been a fekking luxury! (not that I am "kitted out" these days!)As long as you understand it is a limited compromise, and that you treat the thing as lethally wired and constructed, you could have some fun with it.The unit must be checked and made safe, same with the 858D I have.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 05:44:35 am
content: Quote from: TheBay on November 14, 2014, 01:08:46 pmIf I'm ever near by and you invite me for dinner, remind me about your oven use so I can politely decline the invitationEdit: even if you use lead free solder paste.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 11:30:27 pm
content: Quote from: miguelvp on November 15, 2014, 05:44:35 amHaha! I don't use any lead free crap

author: blackice504
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2014, 07:45:58 am
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on November 14, 2014, 12:47:24 pmyou know what yeah i like coffee and i would like to have coffee when i solder and maybe a sig lighter too and yeah add the reflow over.......but then again most mobile phones now days that everyone has even me nowdoes all in one Mobile, GPS, MUSIC , VIDEO , EMAIL , ect you get where i going in fact Intel made an statement that they will make a portable super computer by 2018 or something like that, please for the forum pro's i am getting this off the top of my head as i read the article some time ago so don't quote me its just the gist of it.FYI i still have separate modem , firewall , router, A.P .My sound system is separate most people go for the all in one amps now days aka Receiver. "i have a amp for each channel because i am crazy and its good to let the other houses in the street listen to my music".........But again if you read my post i stated i am not a pro i will not be using this thing for work its a hobby for me and i think well its good that it has the extra bits and i said i would use with caution...

author: blackice504
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2014, 08:02:22 am
content: Hello everyone for those of you who don't know i been really busy and had some problems with my camera that start with mebut i got the station despite what photo they used on the site and lack of info on brand it turned out to be Dave's Favourite brand Yihau, i did mention to the seller that he should write that ect, i told him not to be worried about the photo as we all know photos arnt the only thing you should look at.Anyway i will be making a small review as promised i just have not had the time and i am special when it comes to Camera's how ever i do have some photos and i will do a write up soon but right now i need to clone my self and make the clone a tad special so he can do my bitch work because i have no idea how i will get all this shit done that i need to get.I will also post a link in this thread as many of you are interested into see Electronic porn.The rework station was better then i expected it had none of the special wiring that many people have found they even added decent connectors on the inside, the soldering on pcb was ok, not great but ok, i do not believe there was any recycled parts which is good. "sorry Dave"The soldering iron heats up fast, it has the same pinout as hakkothe smd blower is fast enough for me.The built in PSU is not bad its seems to be in cal <<< i do not have some of the equipment that some of you guys have i just have some basic meters ect, as i said this is my side hobby.bad things.RED Status LED sorry it just does not work well it has to be blue so i changed it to blue now the smd station works so much better it made everything work so well.......The transformer is well made, but does get a little warm, i might add a fan Blue PC FAN as the blue pc fans make the air cooler........ "don't take that serious". I just have some spare blue pc fans.FYI the RED PC fans go faster.On a Serious note again i am sorry i not had the time to write a proper review but i do recommend this to people like my self that don't want to spend to much money on there HOBBY, but if you use this everyday 9 - 5 5 days a week this is not for you but you know that anyway.Overall i am happy with it and the seller was fast for Australia " they must have stock here"Talk to you all later.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2014, 08:06:18 am
content: Did you get a later board one? (pcb) .

author: blackice504
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2014, 04:54:46 pm
content: Quote from: TheBay on November 14, 2014, 10:01:32 amyou might be surprised but the box is fairly empty i will get the photos soon i just been busy with work..... i really need to clone my self, Does anyone do that? "but i need my clone to have less intellect then me, after all we can have our clones smarter.......The blue LED does make it work much better now.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2014, 03:21:57 pm
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on November 14, 2014, 12:47:24 pmDon't know about the manicure option - but those other ideas have merit.