[Want] UK-Germany Aliexpress order - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: ulix
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2024, 01:29:20 pm
content: Hi Everyone,looking for someone who would be willing to forward something from aliexpress to my home address in germany. From shipping to the UK to creating evri shipping label to germany everything can be accomodated (pepaid). Only thing is I don't have a UK adderss, and would greatly appreciate if someone would be able to help me with forwarding a small pcb board (FPGA).Thanks a lot,ulix

author: Swake
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2024, 04:51:31 pm
content: Contact the seller on AliExpress. There certainly is a way for them to send the board over to Germany directly.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 15, 2024, 05:01:21 pm
content: Why it needs to be UK in particular? Also this does not solve a problem of overzealous German customs which are probably the reason seller does not ship to Germany.

author: artag
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2024, 08:07:54 pm
content: What is the origin of this problem ?I've had difficulty buying some items on ebay (electronics parts from USA) and I'm told it's become impossible for german buyers.The most likely explanation I've heard (though it's also absurd) is that such items don't have a conformance certificate for import (CE, UKCA etc.)@ulix: I'd be happy to do the postage thing for you but I'm concerned that, however correct your formfilling is, I might forward it to you and have it stopped by German customs.

author: ulix
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2024, 08:17:23 pm
content: The problem actually is, they do need to comply with some "new" packaging law (it seems its to complicated/they don't care so they do not register). This is new to me as well, have been living in the UK the last few years and this seems to have become effective in July 2022. :'(

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 15, 2024, 08:24:13 pm
content: If it can be shipped to Latvia, I can do it, won't need to go through the customs twice as with UK.QuoteI recall ebay sent me an email a while ago that I need to register with some packaging certification firm nonsense and pay them a fee to continue selling in Germany. No actual package certification needed, just some nonsense to waste time and money. Of course I did not as it didn't make sense for doing some occasional sale while I can do it for the rest of EU.

author: ulix
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2024, 09:06:00 pm
content: thanks wraper, much appreciated. For now I have asked the seller if it would be possible to sent it directly. If that fails I might come back on your offer. Thanks a lot!

author: pope
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2024, 09:26:24 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on December 15, 2024, 08:24:13 pmYou mean that even within EU you have to register/pay to be able to sell to German market?

author: ulix
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2024, 10:33:15 pm
content: Quote from: pope on December 15, 2024, 09:26:24 pmAs of my understanding of reading about it, wraper seems to be correct. When you look at aliexpress (or any other chinese platform like bangood etc) I can barely find any products, it seems for me most prominent for FPGA boards.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 12:32:38 am
content: Quote from: ulix on December 15, 2024, 10:33:15 pmI think it's not needed if you have a personal account on ebay. But a decade ago I converted it to business account because at the time with personal account you could not make listings last for more than a month. They removed the limitation later but you cannot convert the account back to personal.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 12:38:33 am
content: Here's the email:We’re here to help you keep selling on eBay.deHi *********,We wanted to let you know about some important new requirements for your listings due to the German Packaging Act (VerpackG) and Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR). These policies are aimed at protecting the environment by improving waste management, limiting the use of landfills, and stimulating innovation in recycling. To be compliant, you’ll need to license and register your packaging when you sell products in, or into Germany.Here’s what you need to doLicense your packaging. A licensing fee will be required and our partner Lizenzero offers a straightforward solution using Interseroh+. Get started hereThen, you’ll need to register with the LUCID database. Enter the name of your dual system and packaging quantities into LUCID to receive your LUCID ID numberAdd your LUCID ID number to your eBay seller account and you’re ready to goEnter your LUCID IDFollow these steps by 1 July 2022 to stay in line with the German Packaging Act. If you don’t take the necessary measures by then, we’re legally required to restrict your selling privileges for the German market.To help you make the adjustment as smoothly as possible, we’ve partnered with Lizenzero, who offer a full range of support services.Visit Lizenzero

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 01:29:05 am
content: wonder if the general product regulations 2023 that came into force on 13 dec 2024 have something to do with things,or is it only the uk sellers thats are getting shafted by that

author: bnz
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 10:17:20 am
content: Quote from: wraper on December 16, 2024, 12:38:33 amThanks. That finally explains why I see lots of ebay auctions, even using ebay's international shipping program, that ship to all neighboring countries in the EU but not to Germany.

author: pope
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 11:18:52 am
content: Quote from: themadhippy on December 16, 2024, 01:29:05 amWhat general product regulations 2023? Do you have some link?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 11:38:14 am
content: I bought a Voltcraft WBM-460 Thermal Imaging multimeter recently from an electronics surplus/customer returns seller located in Frankfurt, Germany. I was interested to see that the German seller stated that he would not ship to Russia or GERMANY ! Russia I could understand because of the nature of the equipment, but not shipping to the sellers own country seemed strange. Voltcraft kit is sold by CONRAD electronics so it is not an approvals issue. The unit was faulty though and I now wonder whether Germany has some issue with companies selling faulty goods / Weee waste to its citizens ?Germany is certainly becoming a challenge when it comes to shipping used items. I sent a thermal camera, that I had repaired, to a company in Germany and it took them 2 months to extricate the unit from the clutches of German customs. They were a large company based in Germany who could prove that the camera belonged to them and that it was sent for repair in the UK. It appeared to make little difference in terms of the red tape. I now hesitate to repair equipment that has to be returned to Germany.As a side note… that Voltcraft Thermal multimeter that I purchased is a ‘special’ version for the German market that has not been fitted with the Bluetooth communications module. All other brands of the identical multimeter (OEM is CEM) contain the Bluetooth module and functionality. I assume it is a German approvals issue and I feel sorry for German citizens who are receiving hobbled equipment as a result.Fraser

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 12:25:39 pm
content: Quote from: ulix on December 15, 2024, 01:29:20 pmI'm curious as to which board it is and if it ships to France. What I have seen on Aliexpress lately is that more and more items shown on the home page, or listed in emails to me, give a 404 page. At times you can briefly see the actual product page before it is redirected to the 404 page.It becomes less and less interesting to shop on Aliexpress with all these restrictions.

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 12:42:18 pm
content: Quote from: Fraser on December 16, 2024, 11:38:14 amGerman customs can be a bit finicky. Since the UK is outside the EU, if you didn't pre-collect it, there may have been the little matter of settling the tax for the value added, abroad, by the repair. (Some years ago, a colleague discovered this risk when he got the bright idea of repairing some furniture in an institute workshop inside the local free harbor.)

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 01:15:25 pm
content: Quotehttps://commission.europa.eu/business-economy-euro/doing-business-eu/eu-product-safety-and-labelling/product-safety/general-product-safety-regulation_en

author: Berni
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 01:41:16 pm
content: When i opened the thread i assumed the OP was in some obscure country... but then Germany?!This is absolutely ridiculous, having to register and PAY to do so, just to be able to ship stuff to Germany. If every country did this, it would make is impossible to sell anything internationally online.All this while Germany is 'saving the environment' by shutting down CO2 neutral nuclear plants and instead ramping up energy production from coal.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2024, 02:19:43 pm
content: It is getting crazier here in Germany by the day.Depending on the business in Germany, you have to provide "proof" that the recipient in a different country is recycling the packaging material correctly, otherwise there might be a fine to the German business. Go figure ....

author: ulix
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2024, 06:49:23 pm
content: Someone asked about what FPGA board here an example:https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005638436858.htmlAnother FPGA Board:https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807524580357.htmlOrther examples include Zeenko Store (TinySa Store):https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001274404758.htmlcheers

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2024, 07:07:22 pm
content: Quote from: ulix on December 17, 2024, 06:49:23 pmAll these items show they will ship to my address in France. So yeah it must be a German thing then.To avoid custom duties I would not recommend to have someone in the UK buy this kind of stuff for you, because when they forward it to you customs puts import duties on them even if it is marked as a gift.Best to ask members that live in the Europe Union to do it for you. For instance Wraper already offered to do it for you.

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2024, 06:01:09 pm
content: Quote from: pope on December 15, 2024, 09:26:24 pmFunny thing is - all other EU countries are ramping up these $h1tty regulations as well. Germany has just been a bit faster to adopt EU regulations, and all the other EU countries did ignore most of the regulations until now. Not any longer, though.As a small company, it is pretty much impossible to do EU-wide business in the future - every single country uses their own registration setup, their own fee structure, some require an in-country representant. Worse: Even if you are sending just a few business letters, those envelopes are considered waste and you do need to register for EPR. Not kidding, and somehow most people don't know (yet) what the green parties have pushed through EU legislation. There is no grace amount, which is IMHO a huge error. Sure, if you dump 10000 refrigirators into Austria, that certainly has to be regulated. But sending a simple letter requires pretty much the same upfront registration costs. That's a couple of hundred EUR for Austria alone.I noticed that blockage on Aliexpress, too. Fortunately, there is still Superbuy, which sources from TaoBao, and therefor is quite a bit cheaper than AliExpress. No country penalty as of now. And really good service (no, unfortunately, I don't get paid for saying this...)

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2024, 06:06:15 pm
content: Quoteso that explains why they changed the name from the common market

author: pope
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2024, 09:44:19 pm
content: Quote from: Haenk on December 18, 2024, 06:01:09 pmThe only waste I can see is our tax money going to useless idiots who somehow have to justify their salaries and their existence in general.