Raw Creativity:   What is is ? - Page 1
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author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 03:56:00 pm
content: I never forgot the phrase:"With GENIUS comes a little MADNESS."But, certainly I cannot give proper credit (memory not 100 % with advancing age).Inventors can be very playful, but does that mean that my CAT or kitten has that, raw, intangible ability, to experience a 'spark' of realization ?? (Yes, in my IMO).Right now, I'm contemplating the awesome powers, of a 'hunting dog' to harness AUDIO nuances, to such a degree as to seem 'magic'.I'm convinced that (skilled) dogs of some breeds, can literally hear the changes, when a body or object shifts around, in close, critical quarters !Maybe it could be a scene, where it's a (scared) Rabbit or other extremely elusive and fast moving PREY under hunt.The audible 'changes' might then be enhanced by having some nearby noise source, spewing a white noise. That noise getting reflected off of the twisting bodies, as they seek escape.Too speculative ? Sorry; I'm a clever inventor, too ! It's just that the environment and behavior patterns of science inventors can be a bit marginal.Witness the often gaunt portraits and marginal personal lives, of an Alan Turing, or of a Nicoli Tesla. Of course the real questions involve how do we encourage or nurture such, eventually, productive investigators.....Rick-Jack. Thanks for reading!

author: vidarr
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 04:32:10 pm
content: I had a hunting dog, an American Bulldog (when I was in the USA). They are very smart and can learn many commands --more than most other dogs. He figured stuff out that I never thought he could understand.My favorite was when he realized what a video projector was. We were in the living room and a pet (dog food?) commercial came on and he ran to the wall thinking it was real. He realized it wasn't when he got to the wall. He looked around the wall to the backside of the wall and figured it out. He then walked over to the projector looked at it, then saw how it was pointing to the wall. He looked at the projector, then followed the image to the wall. Then, he sat down and watched TV. It was very clever. It is far too abstract for most non-human animals to comprehend.If you want to do what you are describing, you need to find a dog that has the ability to learn many commands. It is language. How many words can they know and understand. My dog was unbelievable.Some breeds of Poodles are supposed to be among the smartest. Working dogs, eg hunting dogs, are at the top of the intelligence list too.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 04:41:57 pm
content: The Westminster Dog Show (USA) was an eye opener for me several years ago. Judging for appearance and build was boring. The one event I do watch is the agility competition. You will see some really bright dogs and their trainers, who may not be quite as bright.It's worth watching. For their size, Australian sheep dogs seem to have an advantage. They are fast, agile, and very bright.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 05:57:15 pm
content: 'Mollie, is the Jack Russel Terrier, that tipped .e on exactly what commentors just were saying:Sense of hearing, I remember, is some 180 X more sensitive, than what we are used to.'Mollie' was really annoyed, by me often grabbing at one of her ears! Very quickly, she began dropping an ear, down close to the head, for avoiding the 'hand squeeze'.Initially, I had speculated about possible ELECTRIC field sensing, but I've shifted to the audible aspect, of a hand moving there a few inches away.Documentary on a blind fellow, talented in using echo location along with a usual blind guide stick. He could 'locate' a big boulder, or tree, just by emitting a sharp 'CLICK' sound, and cocking his head certain subtle ways.l

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 06:15:37 pm
content: I had a pair of CATs, that would be absolutely riveted, by my laser pointer depicting how a train locomotive headlamp 'shimmies' in the heat, when approaching from half a mile away;I would do subtle wiggles, of the laser pointer, along with supplying ample 'wooshing' sounds,...noise that increased, while both cats stared, riveted and excited in anticipation.All 'faked', as you can surmise !The key was those little sideways deviations, a look that comes straight from a real, steam locomotive, perhaps on slightly wavey tracks.Heck; I even believed my (fake) train was approaching. Lastly, was the split-second, explosive 'WHOOSH !'. that coordinated with the laser DOT shooting across the top of the wall, broadside,...ending.CATS went nuts, at that point, (in excitement).

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 27, 2025, 06:19:34 pm
content: Image of laser pointer was on the wall, as should never point towards the eyes, of course.

author: Andy Chee
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timestamp: March 27, 2025, 06:53:08 pm
content: My benchmark for creativity is the ability to perform tasks without any obvious goal.In the human world, examples may be playing the piano in non-practice non-performance scenario, or playing retro video games.In the animal world, an example may be chasing its own tail, or specifically for cats, knocking things off the table onto the ground.

author: Grandchuck
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 07:05:23 pm
content: A creative occurrence results in an output being more than the sum of the inputs.

author: SteveThackery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 09:31:43 pm
content: Quote from: Andy Chee on March 27, 2025, 06:53:08 pmYes, I've often wondered what is going on in their mind when they do that. They seem to find it interesting, butwhydo they find it so?

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 09:42:30 pm
content: Quote from: Andy Chee on March 27, 2025, 06:53:08 pmI have rarely disagreed with you, but in this case, I'd saynothingcreative comes without a goal.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 11:23:19 pm
content: Goals are the currency of dream activation, as any goal is initially just thinking, and thus crucial and also a portion of applying later feedback. Of course it's also usually helpful to be flexible as things unfold.In my limited view, I've often admired the folks in the India continent, having extensively almost MAPPED the process of creation on the body itself.That means the Brow Chachra and Crown Chachra. Philosophical tendencies in old, old cultural settings had taken hard, profession look at YOGA, and the various forms of 'moving YOGA' like Tai-Chi and began realizing the potential, for stoking the fires of creativity.I'm not claiming to have perfect narrative, here, but that's my take, on the beneficial practice.They unlocked some key methods, when a region needs more innovation.My take, on enhanced settings, is that first, you want SPACE and LIGHT, and space that is (very) clear of clutter. Noise, of course, needing limits.Also helps to have a wide, wide ability to observe & contemplate, and without pre-judgement. I've, quite often been told:" THAT, will never work..."Imagine trying to explain 'MODULATION' to another electricity enthusiast, and having them shake their heads in denial."You can't change the frequency". they might have stated, confident that F.M. methods can't work...I've seen the 'head shakers' and, sarcastically, try to dismiss the dismissers.Anyway, sometimes seen is the stereotype 'NERD', getting into repeated traffic accidents and with other 'distracted' abnormalities.An ability to FOCUS, in a narrow sense, Ignoring numerous contr-indicators (red flags on questions of suitability).Often, along with an uncanny ability to spot the smallest detail, seemingly totally unrelated to any solutions.You've got to take control, of the setting, lighting, and clear available space, for best results. That's very similar to discussion of study habits.

author: Andy Chee
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2025, 05:28:58 am
content: Quote from: jpanhalt on March 27, 2025, 09:42:30 pmThat's not inconsistent with what I said. I'm referring to abilities, you are referring to outcomes.Think of it like shifting the goalposts....the goalposts are always being moved by oneself. As far as I'm concerned, moving goalposts are practically the same as no goalposts.

author: vidarr
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2025, 02:45:29 pm
content: There is no recipe for creativity. You either have it, or you don't. I spent twelve years in academia studying design and creating (Univ of Michigan and Yale). Some people could, most cannot.I don't have anything erudite to say on the matter, but I can say, you cannot philosophize your way into creativity. That is the typical recourse of the "most who cannot" create. That is why there are thousands of books philosophizing about art and architecture (that no one reads) and almost none of the authors can create art, or architecture.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2025, 03:37:58 pm
content: Started my day thinking on my response to Andy Chee and potentially APOLOGIZING as things aren't so 100 percent one way.I think there is a top or highest priority, by analogy a goal to have enough food to eat, versus a shorter term goal like:'Gotta buy that tractor.'Maybe it's 30/70 rather than clearly one answer, on the whole thing about 'goals'.More coming...

author: Andy Chee
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2025, 02:36:49 am
content: Don't misunderstand what I'm saying.I have no doubt that performing goals can utilise creativity in the process.What I'm suggesting is that performing "goal-less" tasks can ONLY be done with a creative mind.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2025, 06:43:06 am
content: Ah, sounds like my own 'goal -free' Yoga mat workouts, were I've incorporated a ton of intuitive application, like, for example, my 'Elbow Pop' maneuver done while in seated posture.Static or isometric 'pushing', along with deliberate 'ethereal' breathing, can be done with resulting re-arrangement of the forearm bones.(GAWD, that sounds so new age!).