We dont support you anymore! So hack your........Part2! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 01:48:43 am
content: The motherboards video of:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/company-loads-malware-into-their-product-to-stop-you-using-it!/According to the video it seams that software is node locked to each tractor, so if a local repair man needs toswap the computer machine control unit ,even if just a blown fuse, it's shipped with no software. So it seams thatJohn Deere is forcing you to buy same software over and over.A hearing occured regards "the rights to repair act" in which Apple and Microsoft appeared!So hack your John Deere tractor:Parts of the LB67 hearing, kinda interesting in away.

author: FrankE
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 06:09:10 am
content: I think this needs more countries onboard with right to repair bills.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 09:28:27 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on March 05, 2018, 05:17:09 amEither your interested or not in society's development and counterpart the grave diggers, it's up to you.The link to the debate in which these videos are part of (John Deere) his under your nose but you seamsto be to lazy to even open your eye lashes. Noone is forcing you to watch four videos!

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 03:28:31 am
content: If video is the only way you communicate you are ignoring a huge segment of the world, and possibly a segment more friendly to the position you seem to espouse.Much as I like this forum, and Dave I hate video as a way to communicate. Word rates vary around the world but average well under 200 words/minute. Many people read an order of magnitude faster than this. Fast forward on text is far faster, and text is available to people who are bandwidth starved for any of a variety of reasons.This subject is particularly unsuited to video. We don't need to see circuit cards to understand the issue. We already comprehend the economic issues for the users of Deere equipment. The expressions on the faces of lawyers, equipment dealers, politicians etc are largely irrelevant and subject to misinterpretation from people of different cultures.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 04:59:38 am
content: Now the most advanced tractor I've ever driven was from the 1960s, certainly nothing close to one of these machines, but even so, I struggle to understand why a tractor needs a computer in the first place.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 06:42:19 am
content: Quote from: james_s on March 06, 2018, 04:59:38 amCommon rail (EFI if you like) diesels need ECU's to operate especially to meet the low emission targets in many parts of the world. There are also significant fuel usage savings with these engines AND the ability to improve fuel savings more as the software gets more optimized. An Ag contractor I've used saved $500/week after his ECU was flashed with new SW with a cellphone and laptop connected to the manufacturer's website on the other side of the world.The fuel savings alone (tech was there for other issues to) paid for the tech's visit in a week or two.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 07:38:32 am
content: Quote from: CatalinaWOW on March 06, 2018, 03:28:31 amIt worries me how people somehow manage to make this about the medium and not the subject at hand.For the search enginably challenged:https://hackaday.com/tag/john-deere/

author: ivaylo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 07:56:31 am
content: Thanks for posting! I work for a company which helps recycle stuff. With everything becoming IOT, you cannot even toss or resell your later model TV, fridge or oven without data wiping (it has your IP addresses, emails, passwords, etc). And the manufacturers control what can be data wiped with no common standards (so far). Not exactly the same, but similar to the tractors issue here. We’ll need hackers for everything pretty soon...

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 09:00:57 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on March 06, 2018, 08:57:45 amIt already is your problem too. Participation is not optional, you will suffer the consequences. The fact that you may or may not want to know about it doesn't really change much about the problem.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 09:17:52 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on March 06, 2018, 09:11:25 amAre you simply trying to be obnoxious or are we actually having a communication breakdown? I'm not really in the mood for the former today.

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 10:22:17 am
content: Thanks for the postI drive past a John Deere tractor gallery quite often, and thought they were a useful companyI will award them The Finger and ThumbsDown from now onBreak out the WD40 and get the old school farm rigs back on the land to feed the peopleand starve out the corporats