Solar Freakin' floating panels - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: oxcart
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2024, 08:10:42 pm
content: Someone forward this to Dave..How it started:How it is going:https://t.me/intelslava/59387

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2024, 08:14:56 pm
content: At least there was no fire

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2024, 09:02:29 pm
content: Nobody loses.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 09, 2024, 09:15:03 am
content: Not the same plant though, India != Indonesia.

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 09, 2024, 11:21:10 am
content: Not enough strength to handle the loads and someone clearly screwed up the anchoring. If they made it more light weight and kept it below the surface I doubt it would happen.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 09, 2024, 11:38:25 am
content: Quote from: Marco on May 09, 2024, 11:21:10 amMakes no sense whatsoever. Ho being more lightweight is supposed to help? Not to say keep below the surface?

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 09, 2024, 12:59:59 pm
content: If it's flat on the water, it's only the oscillating momentum of the waves which causes forces.All that structure above the water creating windload just amplifies the required amount of material

author: oxcart
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 09, 2024, 02:25:11 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on May 09, 2024, 09:15:03 amI'm aware of that, for what i could find i think there's some country mixup, because the only solar freakin' floatin' plant by Masdar is in Indonesiahttps://masdar.ae/en/renewables/our-projects?&technology=Floating%20Solar%20PV

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 09, 2024, 02:30:33 pm
content: Quote from: Marco on May 09, 2024, 12:59:59 pmSo how this has anything to do with weight, not to say more weight = more inertia = it does not move as much. As of below the water, if you want something that produces way less electricity and also overgrows with algae, sure.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 09, 2024, 03:17:57 pm
content: Quote from: oxcart on May 09, 2024, 02:25:11 pmIndeed, the Masdar plant is in Indonesia, as exlained in the video you shared. In contrast, the world's largest floating solar plant was built (presumably by some other company) in Madhya Pradesh, India, and was badly damaged in a storm in April. The mixup is on your end.Maybe they should build some wind turbines instead, since they do seem to have wind in Madhya Pradesh after all...

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2024, 03:01:10 pm
content: I wonder could that attract animals to loiter on them and use them as a crossing.Quote from: Bud on May 08, 2024, 08:14:56 pmJoke: It'd be put out by the water and with the kangroo's turning up in India they could go hopping over them to reach the other side.

author: Kleinstein
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2024, 03:35:04 pm
content: The idea with PV on water is not so bad, if they have the right places. In some areas land is scare and the solar installation can reduce the evaporation from reservours. On the water the cells are also relatively cool and thus can give good efficiency. It is still not without problems: the wave action is additional stress and birds find nice resting places, so that the panels get dirty in some areas.I don't see animals using them for crossing the water (usually they are more something for small to medium size lakes, not rivers). The shade may effect the water life, not necessary bad, but a change.Wind can be a problem on rather large water areas, less with smaller ones.Having occasionally strong storms does not mean that they get good wind for wind power. Peak wind and average wind not always come together, though exposed places amplify both.

author: Refrigerator
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 14, 2024, 12:55:36 pm
content: Solar panels benefit from being cooled so placing them on water seems beneficial. I don't know how they would deal with the waves, because, unless the panels are infinitely stiff, there will be flex and possible stress fractures.But then again people put panels on rooftops where they get beat by rain and wind and sometimes micrometeorites.Slowing down evaporation would drive up the water temperature, so aquatic life would have to either adapt or die off. But that's assuming the installation is big enough to cause enough change.

author: Kleinstein
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 14, 2024, 04:23:41 pm
content: The position on the water is different from installation on a roof or similar. Especially where land is scare or with additional benefit to the lake it can still make sense. An example for this is in singapore.It may not be the best solution and not a real game changer, but it could still make sense. Way better than solar road ways and similar.https://www.pub.gov.sg/Public/WaterLoop/Sustainability/Solar/Floating

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 14, 2024, 09:09:33 pm
content: We need even more of these projects for sure.

author: Refrigerator
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2024, 10:16:50 am
content: Quote from: Kleinstein on May 14, 2024, 04:23:41 pmThere is nothing worse than solar freaking roadways