Cable stripping machines on alibaba - Page 1
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author: salomonander
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 02:47:17 pm
content: Hey there,Im seeing cable stripping machines on alibaba that look like either exact copies of the schleuniger 2015, or maybe they are the original and Schleuniger re-brands them? Either way, they come at a fraction of the price. Does anyone have experice with these products? Thanks jakobhttps://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/4121-Pneumatic-Wire-Cable-Stripping-Machine_1601270897328.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.p_offer.d_title.4d6013a0Tp1v5z&s=p

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 07:44:45 pm
content: The Schleuniger machines are made in Switzerland, they most certainly are not rebranded Chinese products!(There are a few Schleuniger machines in another department at work, so I have hands-on experience with them.)

author: ajb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 10:06:30 pm
content: We also have a couple of Schleuniger machines at work that I've seen the inside of -- they are definitely NOT rebranded alibaba machines!What I've seen of other cloned equipment along these lines is that even if the outside looks similar, the mechanics may be very different. For example, I've seen cheap cut/strip machines that don't even use springs in the feed adjustments, or have a guide tube that looks like it should pivot out of the way mounted to a fixed shaft. A machine as simple as the one in the link might be harder to screw up, but it's really hard to know what you're going to get ahead of time.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 10:25:21 pm
content: I got these 8 years ago and am happy with them:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007XVRA20/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1Same principle but manual and a lot cheaper. Not great for fine wire or very slippery insulation (like 24 awg Kynar). But they do THNN and almost any other insulation well.

author: salomonander
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 11:40:42 pm
content: Sorry i did not want to imply that Schleuniger manufactures in china. But it looks like they copied it pretty well.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 01:53:17 pm
content: Quote from: jpanhalt on December 22, 2024, 10:25:21 pmThose operate on a completely different principle.The stripping machine shown (as well as the original Schleuniger) use V-shape blades, and require you to manually dial in the cut depth using the micrometer knob on the side. This cuts a diamond or square shape profile into the insulation, leaving 4 spots of practically zero insulation depth, and the rest still quite thin. This works generally quite well even with fairly difficult insulation types, including slippery ones.The handheld automatic stripper you show, like most handheld automatic strippers, uses parallel blades that rely on mostly tearing the insulation. These score the insulation on two sides, leaving two arcs of full-thickness insulation on the sides. That works fine for most PVC insulation and others that behave similarly (like mPPE), but struggle with soft polyethylene, teflon, etc., never mind truly challenging insulation like Kapton.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 01:54:20 pm
content: Quote from: salomonander on December 22, 2024, 11:40:42 pmThey copied theoutsidewell. Who knows what the insides look like.

author: salomonander
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 02:25:33 pm
content: I will try to get a picture of the inside… maybe they do provide it. I cant afford a real schleuniger.

author: salomonander
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 02:32:06 pm
content: And this is off topic now, but do you guys know of machines that can do stripping and twisting in one go? So far i found the schleuniger rotary strip 2400, be340 and st215 by nitronic. Are there any other models im not aware of (for small diameter around 26 awg)?Nitonic does do a small unpowered hand held version that i could actually afford. But their description is not really clear on how well the twisting works. Does anyone have any experience with these?https://www.nitronic.ch/en/abisolierung/ministrip

author: salomonander
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2024, 02:39:10 pm
content: Well, they are not willing to show any shots of the insides. So no thanks. I was lucky and just scored a lapp/wdt 0160 avg for 150€ on ebay - it does stripping and twisting in one process. Its new and never used... Cant wait

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2024, 09:01:13 am
content: What an awesome find!! It looks like that one isn’t adjustable, so probably optimized for normal PVC wires?

author: salomonander
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2024, 05:05:50 pm
content: Thanks, i found it at the bottom of a french secondhand marketplace 🤣 and it can actually be adjusted. It works like a revolver. Each opening has a different diameter in order to feed the cable correctly. It goes from 0,03mm2 all the way up to 6mm2. But if you mean adjusting for the isolation thickness i dont know to be honest. Still for this price ill just find out i guess. And i work with pvc cables most of the time anyways.Edit: just read the manual. And yes, the isolation thickness can be adjusted as well. Its done by adjusting the screw of the according opening of the revolver plate.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2024, 11:59:12 pm
content: Quote from: salomonander on December 28, 2024, 05:05:50 pmI knew about the revolver mechanism but that isn't what I meant -- to me,selectingfrom discrete sizes is notadjusting.But you're right that it is also adjustable, I missed that section (9.0.4) the first time I looked at the manual (before writing).P.S. The nonconductive stuff on wire is "insulation", not "isolation" (unlike in German).

author: salomonander
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2024, 06:36:23 pm
content: Thanks Tooki,„Insulation“ I will try to remember it correctly. If you know anyone who might still have spare parts for the WDT let me know please. There is some extra spring that does not come stock if i did my research correctly. It does twist the cable stronger than the standard configuration. Id love to find that part (5100-60). I did write a mail to the WDT customer service… happy new year!

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2024, 07:45:45 pm
content: Out of curiosity, why do you want the wire twisted extra-tightly?WDT appears to have been bought up by WEZAG, I assume that is who you wrote? AFAIK, WEZAG does not sell to end users, only to OEMs. I would check with LAPP, since they resold this device.

author: salomonander
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2024, 08:42:04 pm
content: Well, i honestly dont know if i need it, since i have not tested the machine yet. Maybe the standard version does twist tight enough. I just need a decent twist. I work on vintage audio gear. There is no crimping, just soldering.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2024, 10:04:04 am
content: Ok. I suspect you’ll be fine.

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2024, 10:43:13 am
content: I am not in the market for a wire stripper, however I saw this e-fox tool from Phoenix on a fair a month ago and was quite impressed:Surely not in the same price range as the Alibaba thing

author: salomonander
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2025, 01:07:34 pm
content: This one looks sweet as well. I had a longer talk with a real expert on these type of machines. She says that all of them work great, as long as they come from a reputable manufacturer. She also said that most manufacturers actually exchange patents here in europe and often offer the same inner mechanics. She has two Schleuniger 2015 (the one they copied at alibaba) and from the one picture she saw of the internals, it is indeed made the same. Question is how the quality of materials compare. But it seems like they copied it really well.