Google is getting scary... - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2014, 07:21:51 am
content: Hi guys,Google acquired another company:http://recode.net/2014/01/26/exclusive-google-to-buy-artificial-intelligence-startup-deepmind-for-400m/Apparently, it's an AI company, their site lacks any info on their products... or any info at all:http://www.deepmind.com/Now... together with their recent acquisition of Nest and Boston Dynamics, I'm not sure what you can get out of combining that together... perhaps an intelligent house populated by intelligent robots that will do nothing all day but watch ads?David

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 28, 2014, 01:22:50 pm
content: Quote from: daqq on January 28, 2014, 07:21:51 amEither that, or it's all just a big waste of money.Google just like to throw money against the wall and see what sticks.Like their projects, maybe 90%+ of their acquisitions will just be a waste of money.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2014, 01:26:00 pm
content: They are casting their nets incredibly wide. Seems to me that a company with no focus is likely to die soon

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 28, 2014, 01:35:28 pm
content: Quote from: c4757p on January 28, 2014, 01:26:00 pmNo chance. They have big fat cash cows that will happily milk for the foreseeable future.

author: Polossatik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2014, 04:19:46 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 28, 2014, 01:35:28 pmindeedif you don't have to worry about a few million $$, at least have fun and buy/invest in some crazy stuff. I know i wouldIt might be the next golden egg and if not it might be just fun or trigger some silly other idea .As long as they keep the cow itself focused to eat the green grass all is fine , keep milking.

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2014, 06:20:29 am
content: Google has bought like half a dozen robotics companies in the last year or so. I think they are up to something. When investing that much in a field like this, something is bound to come out of it, whether it makes them money or not.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 29, 2014, 06:51:57 am
content: Quote from: Polossatik on January 28, 2014, 04:19:46 pmSure. But that $3.2BN they paid for Nest buys a LOT of "crazy stuff" companies! Yet they blew that huge wad on one piss-ant company.It's not that google bought Nest, why not, but it's that they paid at least 10 times over what would have been deemed a crazy amount, taking it into the bat-shit crazy stratosphere.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2014, 07:31:47 am
content: Google die out soon?They are pretty well set, and I think are making some smart moves with the companies they are snapping up. They pretty much own the internet.Of course, not all of us may remember but Google's motto was "Don't be evil", but at this point they could practically change the definition of evil. Skynet anyone?Just think, in the coming years, google streetview arrangements on Amazon Delivery style drones, filling major cities, tracking population movement, perhaps targeting ads on video billboards at specific times of day when a segment of the population is doing something.If you watch almost human, it could be like the ad tracking software that was used for a "smart bullet", I can see that happening eventually.

author: Hydrawerk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2014, 08:33:47 am
content: Yes, it is scary.

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2014, 09:09:43 am
content: Quote from: Hydrawerk on January 29, 2014, 08:33:47 amWindows XP, that definitely is scary!You have to keep in mind that these results are because of the "not so clever" people using google, not google itself. I mean seriously, dogs? wtf

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2014, 09:59:56 am
content: Perhaps they just wanted the people that worked there if you read the article google was a competitor for the same human resources.Or it is about their patent portfolio.Also if you buy the company you can steer the direction of the research from general-purpose learning algorithms for games towards multiple step ahead searching algorithms. It is like playing chess, can you predict the next 6 possible steps of your opponent? If google could do that by seeing that for instance a user searches two times in a row for something similar, they can combine that two searches and extrapolate to guess what the user was really searching for.Although they are currently the nr1 search engine they have to keep up innovating like all other companies otherwise their fate will be the same as Altavista which once was the nr 1.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2014, 11:36:53 am
content: http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/2009/04/google_quietly.phpI'm sure I can recall that it used to be Don't Do ? , but since I cannot recall yesterday its a moot point .SkyNet is a coming , even though its already here

author: roboticsound
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 29, 2014, 12:55:52 pm
content: Definitely skynet....Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2014, 12:59:21 pm
content: Quote from: roboticsound on January 29, 2014, 12:55:52 pmWell it's coming sooner or later might as well get it over with.

author: GEuser
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2014, 12:15:38 am
content: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2548355/Google-sets-artificial-intelligence-ethics-board-curb-rise-robots.htmlPeople robots are better than robot robots .Don't do **** , the pot calling the kettle black , and if they know what **** is and i don't , so who or what Is!, I'm up to speed ...

author: Terabyte2007
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2014, 12:24:35 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 28, 2014, 01:22:50 pmI agree with you Dave, I think I saw a forum post or maybe it was a blog article about the many failures of Google. You only really hear about or see the successful ones, but the others are just archived in the big bin of FAIL!

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2014, 07:51:28 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 28, 2014, 01:22:50 pmOne of the walls was in Australia. Did not stick.http://google-au.blogspot.com/2009/05/went-walkabout-brought-back-google-wave.html;-)

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2014, 12:48:44 pm
content: http://9gag.com/gag/awr1R4RGoogle is certainly taking a consistent direction.

author: lemmegraphdat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2014, 12:59:13 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on January 29, 2014, 12:59:21 pmThey'll just access our software and make us them.

author: PetrosA
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2014, 05:27:20 am
content: Google potentially has incredible power within their reach. They have two formidable strengths: Pretty much all of human inquisitiveness passes through their gates, and they have access to the most advanced computing to connect the dots of that inquisitiveness.Sure, there are humans asking whether you can get pregnant from a dog, but there are also scientists and researchers all over the world asking questions of google. Knowing what questions the most intelligent human beings are asking is a priceless advantage...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 04, 2014, 07:32:48 am
content: Quote from: PetrosA on February 04, 2014, 05:27:20 amHow do you differentiate the intelligent from the non-intelligent?Having 100,000,000 Yanks searching for "young earth creation" doesn't make it an intelligent question...

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2014, 11:43:10 am
content: I myself would hold no issue with relevance feedback on obscure searches, where you could tell the search engine its not what your after :/too many times its taken well into the double digits of results pages to find something because its assumed the wrong context which can be hard to filter out, (bloody movie names!)

author: PetrosA
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2014, 02:30:48 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 04, 2014, 07:32:48 amAs I'm watching the Nye/Ham debate, I wholeheartedly agree that even 1 billion Yanks searching for "young earth creation" wouldn't make it an intelligent questionI also feel for all rational thinking Aussies who have to watch Ham make a fool of himself...My thought about differentiating the intelligent from the non-intelligent questions, at least for a first iteration filter, would be the IP addresses of searches. I'm sure Google knows what groups of addresses belong to various scientific communities and they could certainly put more weight to searches originating from those addresses. They also know what questions are coming out of businesses, marketing agencies, etc. Not all searches from Cern or Nasa or various universities around the world will be intelligent, but they would be a valid starting point.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2014, 04:45:09 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 04, 2014, 07:32:48 amNote to self: ignore nationalist baiting.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2014, 04:59:21 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 04, 2014, 07:32:48 amBingo! This is not the question, it's the answer.If google *could* automatically filter the intelligent questions from the stupid questions, think what that would do to the commercial value of their search terms stream.Is this the reason for Google's focus on AI, and home monitoring? How much easier would it be to sort the intelligent from the stupid, if you have access to their home activity patterns?Or there's the Paranoia Transform, in which Google's #1 objective is not to make money, but to make a kill-list of people who ask the wrong questions.

author: scientist
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2014, 09:56:18 am
content: Google is merely a company. Its sole intention is to make money, and if it can do something to make more money -- be it sell IPs to the NSA or diversify into the home automation market -- it will do that "something." Yeah, it might deploy balloons to South America to spread internet, but in the end the purpose is just to gather more information about the market so they can dominate it. I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you own any Google stock, and I doubt you do (considering your stance). Look at it this way:http://abstrusegoose.com/348This is what you should be doing, not bitching on the internet.The Nye/whatever his name is debates remind me of something I read in the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Not sure what, but it was something about highly paid actors going up on great stages to have televised debates over controversial issues. If somebody can find a quote that would be great.

author: HiTech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2014, 07:57:47 pm
content: You've gotta be f-ing kidding me??!! What complete retards some people are.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2014, 08:09:41 pm
content: No, yes, no, no are the answers. As to the doing of 1, 3 and 4 you will have to take a holiday to Brazil or Sweden where it is still legal. Frowned upon, but not illegal. Of course you will likely be prosecuted if you go there for a kinky holiday.....BTW there is an airport in Japan called Kinki. The tourist board was giving out luggage stickers to the people that said "I Am a Kinki Tourist", and it was a while before they were informed about what it was similar to in English. Must have made for some fun holiday conversations.

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2014, 08:56:34 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on February 05, 2014, 08:09:41 pmThe world of Business is full of those "inter-culture" or language mishaps.Importing Chevy "Nova" cars to Mexico without renaming - no va = no goAmarketingcompany (name withheld by the magazine publisher) held a contract signing celebration with their Chinese client. At the celebration, they handed outgreen hatswith logo. The celebration ended early and the contract was not signed because the Chinese saw this company was not prepared to take on a job in China to market anything. (Wearing green hat = wife was unfaithful; giving you a green hat = I want to have (or is having) an affair with your wife).I am sure you can find tons of such examples... The above two was from either Business Week or The Economist perhaps a decade ago.