Trying to get AI to admit that it lied to me - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: fzabkar
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timestamp: July 14, 2025, 05:45:47 pm
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author: Ian.M
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timestamp: July 14, 2025, 05:57:52 pm
content: That's worse than telephone tag with the most weazaloid manufacturer's sales rep, without even the chance to score some free samples, so why were you wasting your time with AI: slow day or lack of caffeination?

author: fzabkar
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timestamp: July 14, 2025, 06:06:31 pm
content: Quote from: Ian.M on July 14, 2025, 05:57:52 pmMy success rate with AI is about 50%. It's usually a last resort after my normal search attempts have failed. It's surprisingly good with computing related questions. Over time I'll learn when to use it and when not to use it.

author: Grandchuck
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timestamp: July 14, 2025, 06:17:35 pm
content: https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbesbusinesscouncil/2025/05/01/is-your-ai-lying-to-you-how-to-avoid-hallucinations/

author: Simmed
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timestamp: July 14, 2025, 06:21:37 pm
content: its a bloody politician !

author: tggzzz
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timestamp: July 14, 2025, 07:36:02 pm
content: Quote from: Simmed on July 14, 2025, 06:21:37 pmEven simpler: when people do that we call them bullshitters.

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2025, 07:41:11 pm
content: However, the replies are all grammatically correct, since that's how they are programmed.I don't understand why these apps cannot check that the court case they cited (for example) actually exists.Real legal search engines find such cases for real lawyers.The real courts are losing patience with sloppy lawyers who think AI is a search engine and put non-existent citations into their briefs.

author: aeg
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timestamp: July 14, 2025, 11:13:41 pm
content: Their logo also isn't "NF" in a circle

author: xrunner
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timestamp: July 14, 2025, 11:22:48 pm
content: This is how the AI was trained -https://youtu.be/vn_PSJsl0LQ?si=Nkd8kOnzF4l05ZiS

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2025, 02:21:55 am
content: Imagine a remake of 2001:A Space Odyssey with HAL 9000 being a modern AI. It offers Dave random fart videos and messes up the life support parameters halfway to the wrong planet.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2025, 03:22:36 am
content: Quote from: TimFox on July 14, 2025, 07:41:11 pmI dont' have the patience or spare time but it occured to me that it would be funny to try to trick ChatGPT into writing a brief citing this case:theonion.com/supreme-court-overturns-right-v-wrong-1819573211/

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2025, 07:29:20 am
content: It would be useful to mention which AI you were using. Something that's designed to impress a CEO and give you all the "I support the current thing" talking points, or one of the good ones.

author: magic
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timestamp: July 19, 2025, 03:35:26 pm
content: Quote from: fzabkar on July 14, 2025, 05:45:47 pmWhy bother? It's not real AI nor any other "I" of any sort, it's a statistical language model, incapable of understanding or admitting anything.It might spit out a sequence of words which looks like an apology under some circumstances, but who cares. And it may be deliberately "tuned" to avoid producing output which could be interpreted as damaging its credibility. Bad for business.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2025, 04:56:30 pm
content: And as an additional thought, this should be a reminder that whatever we understand belongs to us and in general has only a very weak connection to reality.

author: fzabkar
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timestamp: July 21, 2025, 06:54:26 am
content: Quote from: tszaboo on July 19, 2025, 07:29:20 amMicrosoft's Copilot.

author: fzabkar
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timestamp: July 21, 2025, 07:00:03 am
content: Quote from: magic on July 19, 2025, 03:35:26 pmIt does "admit" to making errors once I point them out. The purpose of the exercise, apart from fun, was to see whether AI was programmed to fabricate information. It seemed reasonable to ask AI how it had been programmed, although I expect that any admission would be inadmissible in a court of law. :-)

author: armandine2
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timestamp: August 18, 2025, 10:25:59 am
content: ...I give AI some leftfield query now and again when something I find amusing comes along.Yet to come up that one answer, still to get the joke.