quality - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: jpb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 06:26:37 pm
content: .

author: setq
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 07:34:07 pm
content: I'd be suspicious. I had some drivers a few years ago that had a couple that were darker and they were very brittle. They were RS branded. I haven't tried Wiha ones yet.I tend to buy Wera stuff these days; I genuinely haven't found a single problem with any of their products and they are the only company I haven't! Complete consistency. They are also the only vendor of micro screwdrivers I've used for more than 3 years without knackering them. You can properly crank a tiny stuck philips screw and the driver and head will survive no problems.

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 08:05:07 pm
content: My 2 years old TX6 wiha is like yours, a little darker at the end. no problem so far with a heavy use.bought from a local french dealer.

author: RobertHolcombe
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 11:14:59 pm
content: I only own a single Wiha nut-driver so I can't speak for the quality of their other products, but did want to reply specifically to say that you will not be disappointed with PB Swiss - they are by far the best screwdrivers I have ever owned.

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 11:22:31 pm
content: Can't comment on the color, but I have well over a 100 Wiha drivers, never once an issue, quality is top notch.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 11:37:53 pm
content: Quote from: jpb on August 08, 2016, 06:26:37 pmFirst world problems, unhappy with a tip finish... I call it acting like an asshole. I don't get how this tells anything about them being not of perfectly good quality. The thing is, farnell will never sell them again, all 3 sets will be scrapped.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 11:47:27 pm
content: QuoteDifferent material used for particular screwdriver. My Wera torx screwdrivers have completely black tips, so what?

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 11:52:45 pm
content: I have a whole bunch of Wiha drivers - I don't think the variations in the tip color indicates any real problem.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 12:33:47 am
content: So one tip's from a factory or line which black oxides the tools, and the others aren't. I don't see the problem. Maybe they just hadn't finished changing the lines over yet.

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 01:46:32 am
content: Quote from: Monkeh on August 09, 2016, 12:33:47 amLooking at a large collection of Wiha drivers here the finishes on the tips and the shafts vary quite a lot. The sets are probably assembled from bulk stock rather than being made in matched batches so variation is possible.If the dimensions are accurate and you can't measure the material properties, returning multiple sets on cosmetic grounds is pretty rough. Using a probe to measure the hardness is something that can be done with simple bench tools if you were actually interested.

author: Hydrawerk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 02:18:43 am
content: I see no problems on the photos.Once I worked in a factory and there were Wiha andBahcoErgo screwdrivers.http://www.bahco.com/en/s/ergo-screwdrivers/55-9c-e5-ca-76-1f-84-df-b5-61-12-78-26-e9-07-98/For home use I have many Narex screwdrivers. They are OK, but I do not use them too often. Unfortunately they have a low quality print on the handgrip but I do not care.http://www.narextools.cz/en/profi-lineThey have an OK price. I like the hole in the handgrip.You will not find a hole in Wiha or Wera screwdrivers.

author: Hydrawerk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 02:22:46 am
content: There is a high quality print on Wera screwdirvers.http://www-de.wera.de/product_detail.html?L=0&file=schraubendreher_kraftform_plus__serie_300_334_sk&lang=deIt cannot be wiped off.

author: blacksheeplogic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 03:42:38 am
content: Quote from: Someone on August 09, 2016, 01:46:32 amSeems the OP was looking for mantel shelf tools in which case I guess color shade variation/scratches/signs of use would be a problem.

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 06:42:20 am
content: I have two sets, system 4 and system 6, in these rollup bags, the system 6 have the silver finish the whole way.The system 4 are black on the end, just like that one, except all are like that (maybe two have silver, but can't see due to the paint on system 4)So I guess it's intentional, and just a change in production.Now I wonder if TopLoser also picks up tool-sets and resells..

author: mcinque
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 11:22:42 am
content: the dark part is the result of a thermal hardening process; after the treatment sometimes the manufacturer uses sandblasting to clean the surface and to increase the grip, so the finish may vary because of the size of the sand used (glass microballs, Al2O3 etc).Maybe that one is coming from a production line with different thermal hardening temp or without the sandblasting treatment.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 11:33:00 am
content: To others' points, I wouldn't call this topic "Wiha quality" but instead "Wiha consistency"... Until proven otherwise, there is nothing particularly wrong with the off-colored tool you received.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 11:44:20 am
content: Quote from: neslekkim on August 09, 2016, 06:42:20 amOf couse I do, usually I give away small sets like this when somebody orders an expensive item and there is space left in the box.Usually they don't make it as far as me, the easiest quickest way for Farnell to process them is to throw them away.

author: nowlan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 12:14:22 pm
content: I am under the impression that the torx bits at least are made in Vietnam.http://www.wiha.com/en-au/manufacturing-locations/#c215Did you find a good price on pbswiss?

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 01:27:26 pm
content: I can't complain about the Wiha tools I got, also compaired to high quality stuff from other vendors.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 02:21:42 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on August 08, 2016, 11:37:53 pmNo, keep an eye on Toploser's postings in the buy&sell section!

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 02:30:59 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on August 09, 2016, 02:21:42 pmUnfortunately:Quote from: TopLoser on August 09, 2016, 11:44:20 am

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 02:50:17 pm
content: And this is why I would never consider becoming a retailer / reseller, having to deal with people like this.

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2016, 02:54:44 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on August 09, 2016, 11:44:20 amcool, haven't seen any so far. Bought some from amazon, and found them to be very good screwdrivers, so I think I want to start replacing my old scrap.Let me know if this set is throwing around:http://uk.farnell.com/wiha/40350/precision-screwdriver-set-51-pieces/dp/2508420