NEED HELP with First ever DIY Gun/Rifle Game Controller project - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / beginners

author: Radioboy86
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 19, 2017, 06:48:34 pm
content: Hello, I would like your help on an idea I have to make an external recoil pack so VR players with existing gun controllers can add recoil force to existing controllers that do not feature it. Recoil and haptic force feedback controllers are $500-3000 in cost. Can you help me out. I have not attempted this sort of DIY thing before. I just need some tips and what I need to buy in order to get his done. thank you.I have a wii gun that has it's own little vibration motor. It engages the rumble with trigger pulls. I want to gut this out and make an external pack for adding onto my ps move controllers and some other gun controllers I have. Rumble is not good enough. I have found you can buy 12v rumble/haptic feedback motors and solenoids. I want to make a nice recoil/rumble pack that can be powered externally with 12v. The wii gun uses AAA batteries, X2 of them. Where do I start guys? This is my first DIY project. It sounds pretty simple right? I have no experience with anything like this. I just hate having to think the only way to get good haptic vibration gun controllers... Is to pay $500-3000 for other units. Solenoids and strong motors are cheap. I know I can make this happen. I just need some help on what I need to buy and how to wire it up. thanks!I have all the time in world and would love to know what parts I will need. So far I have found some good candidates. I should add that I want this pack to be powered by a wall adapter and cable. 12V I am thinking. Recoil and hard hitting rumble will need juice. I can find a way to affix the device. I just need to know what parts I need, and how to wire it all up. I know I need a switch that can be physically connected in way that a trigger pull will engage the motors. I know I need help. Please any help would be appreciated. I also would like to use "solenoids" or "Actuators" I just need to know from more experienced builders what would be better for an external universal type "pack". The idea is that the pack can add great force feedback to any gun with a physical trigger pull, or something of the naturehttp://nfpshop.com/product/12v-powerful-vibrating-motor-strong-vibration-motor-nfp-f280v/http://www.nfpmotor.com/products-powerful-vibration-motors.htmlhttp://www.nfpmotor.com/Vibrating-vibrator-vibration-motors.htmlI feel this is a really good option for my external rumble pack I want to make, I see these Wii lightguns use X2 AAA batteries and have a micro switch that engages the internal rumble motor on the handle of the gun. The batteries are connected to a microswitch and the switch is pressed after the trigger is physically pulled. How can I convert the AAA batteries power method into an external 12V power connector for continuous use and stronger motor vibrations etc? Like I said this is my first DIY thing.I want the AAA battery method to be converted to a stronger more capable 12V. I plan on buying some strong force feedback motors that need 12V. Eventually adding a small Solenoid too.

author: Raj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2017, 12:58:07 pm
content: almost very method will lead to viberations only... I think for a recoil effect, the closest you can get to simulating it is installing a very fast self priming pump and feeding liquid from butt end and pushing it out of muzzle end (into a tube back to the feed tank). Which would be impossible.second best would be mini jackhammer mechanismthird, a motor oscollating a heavy pistonforth is visual (darken the screen and make the enviorment nausia inducing every time a short is fired)You can always claim that it simulates a .22.Calibers of those guns feels like rumblebetter and cheaper is to forget electronic experiance and fire potato gunsgames are already hard enough without force feedback

author: tonnyhu
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 07, 2018, 05:18:42 am
content: I think the vibrating motor you post is too big for the controller. It's better to use small vibration motors in replacement which is usually used in the phone and wearable devices.https://www.vibrationmotors.com/product-catalogue/linear-resonant-actuators/

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2018, 04:57:50 pm
content: A powerful solenoid with a significant mass on the plunger should achieve the desired effect. Engage the solenoid and it will jerk the gun in the opposite direction, then a spring can return it to the home position at a lower rate. It could take quite a lot of power though.

author: Raj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2018, 05:11:14 pm
content: Do you know what a buttkicker is?

author: Raj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2018, 09:30:01 am
content: Here's something I recently read-https://hackaday.com/2018/09/16/wind-blaster-haptic-feedback-thatll-make-you-recoil/

author: Bassman59
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2018, 10:17:03 pm
content: Quote from: Raj on July 08, 2018, 05:11:14 pmThe driver mounted on a drummer's throne so when s/he hits the kick drum, it's felt? A much better solution than putting a subwoofer next to the drummer.

author: Raj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2018, 07:26:27 am
content: People use buttkicker speakers to simulate in game vibrationslike Tank gun firing, or road rumble, or explosion

author: Pirateguy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2018, 08:54:14 pm
content: have you looked into airsoft guns?there are models that are made to simulate the kicking of an actual firearm using co2.