Long term orders - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: NorthGuy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2022, 04:32:18 pm
content: Some of the parts on DigiKey or Mouser are expected to be available roughly 2 years from now. To me, it sounds like the part is not available at all. But you still can order. Does anybody have any real-world experience with such incredibly-long-term-orders?

author: eugene
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2022, 06:25:43 pm
content: Are you asking if a world wide parts shortage of this magnitude has ever happened before?

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2022, 06:38:14 pm
content: No, I think he is asking if anyone here has direct experience with ordering a part with such a long posted lead time.

author: NorthGuy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2022, 06:54:36 pm
content: Quote from: eugene on June 03, 2022, 06:25:43 pmNo, I'm asking if someone has placed such long-term orders, and how it went.

author: mon2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2022, 07:33:07 pm
content: Yes, we have. We build many models of our products for assorted OEMs in the PC markets.1) Placed a few orders with Analog (online store) -> they forecasted 12 months out after confirmation -> received in about 9 months. This was late last year to receive the obscure transceivers. They offer the best price for their products.2) Placed an order last April with Diodes, received the parts just recently - the distributor missed an order change for a lower power consumption of the same part but aside from that error, the parts are here and can be trusted to be not fakes. We ordered 1k pieces of this device and received a partial about 2-3 months ago and the balance last week.3) We contacted our rep @ Diodes on what if we wanted to swap out the current part for the lower version of the same -> 'it will be about 2 years from now'. No thanks. No customer of ours will wait that long.4) It is a daily struggle to respin designs with what is available out there. Love TI products but really have a hatred for their business tactics. We have many medical accounts that require product and we use their isolators. A few months ago, you could buy a few pieces per order only since offshore vendors were buying in bulk and reselling the parts at 10x the cost on their webstore (ie. Winsource). We saw a $0.03 X2SON LDO (85k pieces) disappear in minutes and they had it for resale @ $1.10 USD for the same part. We got lucky once or twice on the alerts but now there is zero inventory of their parts with no lead time and no one to chat with.Wait till they ask us for the product which we have been supplying them for the past 10 years...

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2022, 08:19:13 pm
content: I have no experience with such absurdly long delivery times. My impression was that availability in a few years was a default entry for a data field that required a number, when the correct answer was "unknown" or "to be determined."

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2022, 05:51:22 pm
content: Quote from: jpanhalt on June 03, 2022, 08:19:13 pmIt takes about 3 months to make a batch of semiconductors, so 2 years is only planning out 8 production runs into the future for a given production line. Point is, those aren’t fake dates like January 1, 9999 or something, they’re very much within very real planning schedules.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2022, 08:02:29 pm
content: Quote from: tooki on June 06, 2022, 05:51:22 pmSo in other, words you don't know the reason either but think you have a better theory. The dates I saw were not "fake" as in January 1, 9999. They were 2 to 3 years in the future. Searching on Digikey today, I did not see such long delivery times as frequent; whereas, in mid-April they were.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2022, 06:27:13 pm
content: I’ve seen dates 2 years into the future on Digi-Key.

author: vstrulev
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2022, 11:54:22 pm
content: Quote from: NorthGuy on June 03, 2022, 04:32:18 pmGood day. Here is the fact from my stand point: I used to buy just needed quantities on regular bases, lets say 200-500 uC or so. Since the shortage, I've ordered more than 5000 and it's true for other parts as well. The big companies are doing the same, but at much higher and crazier quantities/rates. So there is no shortage of components because of the factories, but because of the protection strategies from big companies. The shortage will continue. My personal approach: see what is available, buy big quantities and redesign all the projects.