eBay purchas problem / situation looking for some advice. - Page 1
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author: made2hack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 03:39:32 pm
content: Hello all,So here's the story. I ordered 24 Ni-Mh batteries from a Canadian seller on Nov. 8, 2015. Paid him all was well. After about 4 weeks of not receiving anything I contacted the seller about 1 - Posting feedback and updating the status to shipped and 2 - Wondering if he had shipped the batteries (since no update was posted by seller). He said that packages can take up to 8 Weeks to arrive in the EU from Canada (ok fine) and that he will update the status and leave feedback.Fast forward to the New Year. Still no update / feedback still no batteries. Time is running out on Buyer Protection so I contact him again (no answer). A few days later I use the "Did no receive" option on the sale. After 3-4 Days of no action, Buyer Protection kicks in and I click on Refund. Fast forward more than a week, refund finally appears in Paypal. No contact from seller whatsoever.No feedback received, none left by me (I exceeded the 60 days apparently). No biggy.Today, 1st of Feb 2016 (Almost 3 months later), I receive the package of batteries. Last time I received a package from Canada, it took 5 weeks (a little long) but acceptable. However, that seller was always communicating with me keeping me up to date. This person, almost no contact whatsoever. He didn't seem to have the handle on eBay listings even though he had 50+ transactions with 100% positive feedback.So, what do I do? I feel that I should contact him and try to send him some money after all I received my batteries (although WAY later than normal). And it's not like he didn't send them on time. He shipped on 11.11 (3 days after auction). Does Canada Post suck at sending packages? Any Canadian eBayers here with experience delays?Most stuff I get from CN & HK arrives mega fast. I ordered after the new year from the seller Dave interviewed from HK, it took 2 weeks and change to get a package from him.Even though this guy didn't communicate at all, I still feel obliged to send him some money. What do you guys think?TL:DR I ordered bateries from Canada, took 3 months to arrive. I already got a refund. What do I do?

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 04:03:57 pm
content: I would contact him and offer to pay.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 05:04:50 pm
content: Canada to EU is terrible and I have waited up to 3 month before.It is not the sellers fault at all.I would definitely pay him.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 05:49:47 pm
content: Because it was batteries, the seller could have no choice other than sending by ground (vs air), and ground service is slow. When i send by air to Europe it is typically 5 days.Btw, China and HK shipping times are horrible to Canada, totally horrible, i only buy when i know i can wait for 2 months.

author: made2hack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 06:14:06 pm
content: Yeah, it was via Small Packet "Surface", so I guess it slow boat-ed it here.

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 06:52:12 pm
content: Splitting your post makes it difficult to keep track, but according to thishttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/voltage-from-factory-ni-mh-batteries/I would hold off paying him.What did you exactly buy? A picture of the batteries will help determine if the voltages are okay or not.

author: made2hack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 07:31:26 pm
content: Here is from the beginner's section:Quote from: trs80 on February 01, 2016, 06:13:05 pm

author: made2hack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 07:33:30 pm
content: I bought 24 KR-1700AU (i guess 1700mAH) Sanyo / Panasonic replicas Ni-Mh batteries.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 07:40:56 pm
content: Just pay to his paypal account after testing theitr capacity. BTW paypal protection last 6 months (and I have used it after 4 months), so i't not like you only have 45 days of ebay protection.Quote from: trs80 on February 01, 2016, 07:31:26 pmThey self discharged from the storage time. 0.2V ones could receive some damage from over discharging, but quiet likely they will be fine, probably lost a bit of capacity. Normally NiMH shouldn't be discharged below 0.9-1V

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 09:42:35 pm
content: Quote from: trs80 on February 01, 2016, 07:33:30 pmI don't have any experience in these type of batteries, but no-name or generic batteries, in my experience with ebay, are usually 1/5 to 1/10th of the rated sleeve mAh capacity. I would definitely test them before sending payment. If they are all duds, you would be asking for a refund anyway.BTW, these are ni-cd, not ni-mh as you are writing. The two have different characteristics.PS. Real Sanyo/Panasonic are made in Japan according to datasheet.http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Sanyo%20Energy/KR-1700AU.pdf

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 09:51:25 pm
content: If you want ni-mh AA/AAA cells, Eneloops are the gold standard as they been tested and proven by many over the last 8 years.A low cost alternative, with no shipping involved and assuming you have one in your city, is to buy Ikea branded Ladda AA low self discharge cells. They usually sell for 4 for $6 CDN + tax.http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/00240585/These cells are made in China, but get favourable reviews and testing shows they hold up pretty good.http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?387711-Ikea-Ladda-(AA)-Accelerated-Cycle-TestingI have some of these Ladda AA and AAA cells and so far they work fine.Costco Canada sells Duracell pre-charged AA cells which are widely rumored to be Eneloops. Look for "Made in Japan" on the cell sleeve and they are likely Eneloops.

author: made2hack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 10:31:51 pm
content: Sorry, I forgot they were Ni-Cd.When I was considering alternatives, I was looking at Ni-Mh since Ni-Cd are not so well regarded in the EU.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2016, 10:55:45 pm
content: NiCd doesn't care at all about being discharged to 0V. Charge 'em up and proceed.

author: Skimask
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2016, 01:45:50 am
content: Quote from: trs80 on February 01, 2016, 07:33:30 pmI made the mistake of buying AA NiMH batteries exactly like those a few years ago. Out of the 100 in the package, maybe 10 of them were worth 1/2 a shit.The rest...absolute garbage.Next 100 pack purchase of Tenergy's. All good to go.

author: Theboel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2016, 02:07:02 am
content: why not using eneloop AA ?http://www.accu-select.de/KUNDEN-DOWNLOAD/00_HR-3UTGB%20data%20sheet.pdfis there anything special requirement ?

author: made2hack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2016, 10:39:52 am
content: They have to be approximately same size as these since they are going into battery of cordless screwdriver.I was considering AA size Ni-Mh's as alternatives and was gonna place an order and unexpectedly these ones showed up.

author: made2hack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2016, 11:38:15 am
content: As per reading various articles, it seems I can charge the Ni-Cd at C/10 for 16 hours, indifferent of initial charge. Is this correct? Will this then give me a "full" baseline battery from which to test?