Reddit broken by wokeness? Really! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 03:13:01 pm
content: Reddit had an outage recently and they posted a post mortem:https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditEng/comments/11xx5o0/you_broke_reddit_the_piday_outage/Quote

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 03:17:39 pm
content: but.. it's just a refactor. What could possibly go wrong

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 04:52:57 pm
content: Quote from: madires on March 24, 2023, 03:13:01 pmWell deserved.A while back I tested reddit and asked a few generic questions on a few sub reddits... what a shit experience.You need this bullshit called Karma to post a question in places, because I guess its special. I don't know why. Then, of the 4 questions I posted, 2 were flagged by moderators for some simple computer questions. I literally was required to message them to explain why my question was ok.I was left with a lack of understanding of what this "product" they are offering is. You can ask a question, maybe. Come log in and let us spam you. Then try to use us and get roadblock after roadblock trying. Then get frustrated and leave. No bother, we still email you junk and you're now a number in out next earnings call.

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 04:58:48 pm
content: This is yet another point why upgrading a live k8s cluster is a dangerous affair. It's better to launch a new cluster, test, then switch over.

author: Fred27
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 05:02:36 pm
content: Yes, but think of all those people whose lives were improved by that change.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 06:32:40 pm
content: That's hilarious.Reddit is a toxic swamp anyway, it's like the forum version of Twitter. You can post something that is factually true and get banned without any explanation because it pisses off the wrong people.

author: John B
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 07:53:01 pm
content: Even my cynical self thought there must be some innocent explanation for this. Nope:https://github.com/kubernetes/enhancements/tree/master/keps/sig-cluster-lifecycle/kubeadm/2067-rename-master-label-taintQuotehttps://github.com/kubernetes/community/tree/master/archive/wg-namingQuote

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 07:55:54 pm
content: Now we just need to wait a while and then submit a complaint that "control plane" is offensive for some vague reason.This kind of nonsense really drives me up the wall. Inanimate objects don't have feelings, it's ok to command them to do things, master and slave perfectly reflect this relationship. I think there is a real problem with people simply not grasping the concept of context.

author: AndyBeez
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 08:56:15 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on March 24, 2023, 07:55:54 pmCarefull, you might just find yourself blacklisted. Which is a list of banned people who are, black? Oops Reddit, that's another one for the verb mangler. Thinks, is the nounReddit offensive to native Americans? Maybe now I've said it? I really must change my Marcie avatar.

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 09:46:48 pm
content: Quote from: John B on March 24, 2023, 07:53:01 pmTaint, even

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 09:57:58 pm
content: Quote from: shapirus on March 24, 2023, 04:58:48 pmAn old employee suggested I give a Kubernetes product a try, thankfully the comedy here has spared me the trouble, I can safely avoid it. "The message" is plastered everywhere, I don't need it in software dev. If this is what this company is focused on, the its not software. Its also clear they are charging too much for their products to squander resources in these stroke the woke endeavors. Oh, the product was created at Google, another massive red flag to avoid it.

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 10:05:28 pm
content: alternatives?p.s. it'sFOSS. it doesn't cost you anything to run it.p.p.s. had to cross out the F. it's not free as in freedom. you are free to use it, but the design choices are enforced by a group of people which are not completely sane, as it becomes obvious from the matter we're discussing here.

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 10:15:39 pm
content: Quote from: shapirus on March 24, 2023, 10:05:28 pmIndeed, and they have somewhere between 250 and 500 of them that shared the delusion.https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/kubernetesIts the level of stupid that reminds me of a Howard Stern skit, they sent the show clowns on the street with a petition to Mercedes Benz that deemed the car color black racist, and wanted Mercedes to officially change the name to African American. People were signing it.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 10:46:18 pm
content: Quote from: madires on March 24, 2023, 03:13:01 pm

author: brucehoult
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 11:05:18 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on March 24, 2023, 06:32:40 pmThere are literally tens of thousands of topics ("subreddits" or just "subs") on Reddit. They are not run by Reddit, they are run by the people who created them, which anyone can do.I help to run the /r/riscv sub. It was created by Chris "BOOM" Celio in April 2015. He invited me to join him as the 2nd sub in November 2019 when it had grown to 2500 members. It has just passed 13.9k members and is getting pretty active. I think you would find that is is not toxic there (assuming you have some interest in that topic of course!) and we mods VERY RARELY have to actually do anything.In fact I would not call any of the subs I frequently visit toxic. Perhaps because I only visit technical subs.

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 11:10:42 pm
content: Quote from: John B on March 24, 2023, 07:53:01 pmI wonder how long it will be before some politically correct libterd decides that every word in the English language is "Offensive" and the entire language is banned and we're all forced to use Ongato or some other obscure "minority" language.Several other posters here have already expressed my opinion of Reddit. It's a useless cesspool of largely clueless people IMO.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 11:16:19 pm
content: Quote from: Stray Electron on March 24, 2023, 11:10:42 pmEnglish is of course the language of the colonisers of most parts of the planet, who oppressed the poor people. The whole language should be cancelled.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 11:17:01 pm
content: Quote from: Fred27 on March 24, 2023, 05:02:36 pmLike all those with improved lives from when "Parts List" became "Bill of Materials".

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2023, 11:35:34 pm
content: Quote from: brucehoult on March 24, 2023, 11:05:18 pmI've never deliberately used it. Sometimes I follow a link that ends up going to it, and if it's on my phone it pesters me nonstop to use the app or log in with Google. No, no, no, no, no, NO! I hate being pestered like that.

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 12:52:21 am
content: Quote from: brucehoult on March 24, 2023, 11:05:18 pmYou bring up an immediate turnoff for me when I signed up to ask a few questions. I had no idea that every one of these sub reddits had different mods and rules. It's almost unbelievable anyone uses that site for anything more than a web search result resembling the question asked. Sucked in by the lure of easy answers, I experienced a mess trying to understand how to ask a simple question without be flagged and dekarma'd. I'm sure your sub reddit is a quiet kingdom, but its quite hard to use the site unless you burrow in on these sub reddits... and I understood that to be the opposite in design (at least the intention).I can't see myself ever asking another question there because the website is not useful.

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 12:53:10 am
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on March 24, 2023, 11:17:01 pmUs moderns say BOM.

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 01:46:54 am
content: Quote from: Zero999 on March 24, 2023, 11:16:19 pmExactly the kind of argument that I'm expecting. I mean after all no other race/country/culture every conquered, killed, robbed, raped, exterminated or enslaved another race; did they?

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 03:46:53 am
content: Quote from: mapleLC on March 25, 2023, 12:53:10 amThe BOM used to be my Boss-------- "Broadcast Operations Manager."

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 04:57:34 am
content: How do you even use Reddit? Such a wonky bizarre interface, only LinkedIn is worse than that.

author: brucehoult
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 07:23:49 am
content: Quote from: Bud on March 25, 2023, 04:57:34 amAre we even looking at the same site?

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 08:01:40 am
content: Quote from: brucehoult on March 25, 2023, 07:23:49 amCan you explain it from the perspective of a sub reddit moderator? In that position, are you not seeing how disjointed it is to non mods? It was really irritating to have no clue what was coming, then sit there composing a thoughtful question only to get this "HEY MAN WAIT YOU CANT DO THAT (cough cough)" bullshit from the website. Then, it must be my fault, went somewhere else and asked something else... boom, again. F*ck this site was the next and final thought on it.

author: brucehoult
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 09:20:30 am
content: Quote from: mapleLC on March 25, 2023, 08:01:40 amNo, I can't explain, because I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Apparently you found an unfriendly sub, but you haven't said which one, so I really can't help you.I just made a new burner account, using a browser I don't normally use, and made a post on /r/riscv. No problems.

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 01:17:10 pm
content: Quote from: brucehoult on March 25, 2023, 09:20:30 amTry it with iPad, MacOS I cannot recall what else. Oh, the hackintosh subreddit... I asked a question about a virtualized MacOS, oh no no boy... you need to ask that in the virtualization sub reddit. Go away from here. Oh they dont want you either? Eh.I think the reason your experience is different is that you have too much domain knowledge on the platform. It's a bit hard to separate your user experience from a novice because of this.I didn't have a gripe about reddit before this happened, in fact I was willing to join. The experience was so poor that I have no interest in ever using it again.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 02:20:58 pm
content: Quote from: brucehoult on March 25, 2023, 07:23:49 amThe one with a little red faced alien looking mascot? The one that only shows me 2-3 messages of a thread and then i have to click every single time to see every reply to a reply, otherwise the page is filled with other messages totally unrelated to my search? Thread navigation is utter shit.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 02:27:43 pm
content: Reddit has always been a place where conversations go to die. Its hard to tell if the software or the people are the worst aspect of it. How did this site ever gain popularity with anyone but trolls?

author: DavidAlfa
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 06:03:37 pm
content: Great. Hope it happens more.Tag: "Master"- "Huh... I mean, did I hear BLACK SLAVES!!?"Woketards everywhere!Oh, don't forget the SPI MISO/MOSI signals, it'sPICO/POCInow, don't even try the other way

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 07:25:21 pm
content: Quote from: DavidAlfa on March 25, 2023, 06:03:37 pmTI signed under this nonsense. We know what to do.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 07:40:36 pm
content: Quote from: DavidAlfa on March 25, 2023, 06:03:37 pmSome people just want to make trouble, because they have nothing better to do. There has been a lot of this kind of master baiting recently.

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 07:57:49 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on March 25, 2023, 07:40:36 pmBtw, github is on the bright-ish side in this regard. What all this madness about cancelling the word "master" started, they had to rename the default branch in new repositories from "master" to "main", because otherwise they would apparently have been cancelled themselves, but they at least left (or added?) an option to set the default name for the default branch of new repos globally for the organization or account.

author: abeyer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 08:19:25 pm
content: Quote from: mapleLC on March 25, 2023, 01:17:10 pmYeah,anysub that is primarily about doing something that is illegal is likely to have strictly enforced rules about what and how you can post. I don't think that's going to be different anywhere else. If you allow pseudonymous posters to come in and fill up a forum with illegal content (or even legal but borderline content that a moneyed interest doesn't like) you'll get taken down.Also, almost every sub has posting rules listed in the right sidebar that you're expected to readbeforeposting... it sounds like you didn't and posted something that was explicitly listed as forbidden/off-topic.

author: I wanted a rude username
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 08:21:57 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on March 25, 2023, 04:57:34 amQuote from: brucehoult on March 25, 2023, 07:23:49 amMaybe Bud is using the new site. Which, yes, is useless. Obviously optimised for revenue.The objectively best Reddit experience is to visitthe old Reddit site, in a desktop browser withReddit Enhancement Suite.And since Reddit tries to push everyone to their new site, theOld Reddit Redirectadd-on can be used to force use of the old one.

author: DavidAlfa
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2023, 09:58:34 pm
content: Reddit has some nice resources, I'm not a user but I frequently find useful information when googling.Can't understand why the hate, which I also find against StackOverflow.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 26, 2023, 12:01:55 am
content: Quote from: Zero999 on March 24, 2023, 11:16:19 pmIronically, the "woke" movement probably wouldn't really find it workable, as it essentially originates in the USA, AFAIK.

author: brucehoult
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 26, 2023, 12:50:10 am
content: Quote from: Bud on March 25, 2023, 02:20:58 pmI seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Threading is better than here!

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 26, 2023, 12:57:16 am
content: Quote from: shapirus on March 25, 2023, 07:57:49 pmI hope all those involved handed back their masters degrees.

author: mapleLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2023, 04:46:41 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on March 26, 2023, 12:57:16 amAnd those famous names in bed with masterclass.

author: brucehoult
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2023, 10:42:02 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on March 26, 2023, 12:57:16 amWhen I lived in Russia I found it confusing that it didn't matter whether you needed someone to look at your plumbing, electrical wiring, air conditioner, dishwasher, locks, car – it was always simply "Call the мастер". (different ones)OK, in English we have master-plumbers, master-mechanics etc, but we regard the last part as being the more pertinent information!

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2023, 10:49:08 pm
content: Quote from: brucehoult on March 25, 2023, 09:20:30 amsome subs have restriction to try and weed out the spammers, trolls, people that haven't been around long enough to get feel for the rules, or if a sub on something sketchy, spies

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2023, 10:57:11 pm
content: Quote from: mapleLC on March 24, 2023, 04:52:57 pmThe entire site became a toxic place, but unavoidable for some information.There are some really shady things happening with it.Quote from: I wanted a rude username on March 25, 2023, 08:21:57 pmThe mobile site is unusable, prompts you to open thieir app all the time.The "flair" users gave each other cost real money, and all the receiver gets is some icons... On a post. That is not searchable after like a week.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2023, 11:02:00 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on March 26, 2023, 12:57:16 amIf they have one.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2023, 11:05:09 pm
content: Quote from: I wanted a rude username on March 25, 2023, 08:21:57 pmyes, using the old site is required if you want to stay sane

author: hneve
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2024, 10:56:23 am
content: I've noticed this phenomenon as well. Reddit used to be a place where people could share unpopular opinions without being afraid of being judged or condemned. In recent years there have been MAJOR events linked to systemic racism, LGBTQ+ rights, gender equality, and other pressing issues. Many users engage in debates about these problems, but Reddit also amplifies the voices of marginalized groups in ways that aren't necessarily well-intentioned. However, I've read that their moderation policies aim to maintain respectful discourse, even though controversy often arises. Anyway, it's good we have these forums, I feel like they're a raw version of Reddit) Also, one can always delete their Reddit account and start anew!https://digitalstorenet.com/product/buy-reddit-account/

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2024, 11:04:36 am
content: Quote from: hneve on July 04, 2024, 10:56:23 amLike most web forums, Reddit started out as a place where the stupid and aggressive was amplified. Whether its a political, technical, arts, or general chit-chat topic, it has always amplified the dumbest contributions. This is the bane of web forums. As the lowest common denominator for posting an opinion, they tend to get the lowest of postings, and require an enormous amount of curating to keep them reasonably civil. This is why many serious discussions still take place on things like mailing lists, where the curation requirement is dramatically lower. Pretty much any form of internet communication other than web forums keeps the curation requirement a lot lower.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 04, 2024, 11:41:51 am
content: Quote from: coppice on July 04, 2024, 11:04:36 amI used to be the top contributor on a canyoning forum that was on Yahoo groups, but everyone used as a email list. Literally zero moderation was ever required for over a decade.Then it slowly moved to a Facebook group as Yahoo Groups died in popularity.You guessed it, complete shit show in terms of moderation, and some banned people started a competing Facebook group that was supposed be "moderation free", but ultimately had similar issues, and I think a third group sprung up as a result as well.At one point I was banned from the original Facebook group for a completely innocent post. My crime was asking why my post vanished. The founder decided to step down after that incident.Also got threatened with a ban from the 2nd group for being "insensitive".

author: Ice-Tea
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2024, 11:49:27 am
content: Yes, wokeism sometimes takes thingsmuchtoo far but looking for an alternative to master/slave just seems like common sense to me. If you don't understand "slave" might conjur up painfull and unnecessary conotations for a lot of people then perhaps you're just, well, a dick.Now if you'll pardon me, I'm going to exit this thread before the inevitable shitstorm.Also: wokeism didn't break Reddit, the fact that nobody understood a legacy system did.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2024, 01:04:04 pm
content: Quote from: Ice-Tea on July 04, 2024, 11:49:27 amI notice lots of people whining about the use of accurate terms, but not many fighting against the actual scourge of slavery in the world today. I doubt many who whine have experienced slavery. Modern slaves don't usually manage to escape and get to lead the kind of life where they would be reminded by these terms in technical applications. If you ask a large group who of them probably have slaves in their family tree, and some don't put up their hands, they need to read a history book. If you ask the same group who of them probably have slave owners in their family tree, and some don't put up their hands, they need to read a history book. It has been that pervasive through history. Perhaps the coastal people of Europe should demand reparations from Africa for the huge number of Europeans grabbed from isolated coastal towns by African slavers, and sold into markets, mostly in North Africa.

author: mendip_discovery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2024, 03:59:44 pm
content: I thought master, slave etc has been phased out years ago.

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2024, 09:02:04 pm
content: I always thought that "slave" terminology is kinda silly, but "master" makes sense in things like "master keys" or the "master branch" in git. There are no corresponding "slave keys" or "slave branches", thankfully.Americans are nuts, nothing new

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 04, 2024, 09:07:37 pm
content: I think sub reddits have corporate paid mods with guide lines how to keep it "clean" from differing opinions. Like the ones about a movie,game or product (that are specific to a particular device, series or company)I think its the corporate response to something like being given bad ratings on rotten tomatoesthe 'reddit mod' meme is interesting but I really think there is money involved.Companies are getting wise to eco systems and I did see some.. .kinda sad attempts at making internal social media for companies (but its like brown nose central). Starting a company backed reddit page seems logical.I noticed very peculiar behavior from mods on reddit when I wrote my opinion on a series remaster. Naturally there are huge fans of the old and new series if you follow the whole ecosystem. This place looked like a propaganda center for the new version designed to influence reviewers.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 04, 2024, 11:57:18 pm
content: Quote from: mendip_discovery on July 04, 2024, 03:59:44 pmThey tried to do it with hardware:https://blog.adafruit.com/2021/06/03/mosi-miso-and-140-years-of-wrong-make/

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2024, 02:05:14 am
content: Yeah, 1984, all that. Make words disappear so the idea behind the word will disappear as well. Sure. Anyway, where's the popcorn?

author: anonymousEE
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 05, 2024, 08:54:27 pm
content: It's like twitter except for the fact that there's moderators who can not only ban you from groups but also get you banned from all of reddit by reporting you. At least on twitter you can give your opinion without consequences.

author: Infraviolet
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2024, 09:44:39 pm
content: I'd say in all honesty that in many of their technical contexts "master" and "slave" are 100% appropriate. Being a slave is not a pleasant thing at all, for humans. And being a slave is not an easy thing for communicating devices either. When you get the blame for crashing the whole bus because you were too late by 10s of nanoseconds to respond to the every whim of your master, how can you not consider yourself a slave. Especially if you get given a nasty round of toggling on your reset pin for doing so.

author: brucehoult
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2024, 01:23:46 am
content: Quote from: anonymousEE on July 05, 2024, 08:54:27 pmOn Twitter only people who choose to follow you see your opinions, they are not foisted on everyone reading a sub/forum on a possibly unrelated topic.I don't understand why people are so down on Reddit in general, rather than on specific subreddits. Just like Aliexpress, Reddit provide infrastructure but each subreddit (like each Aliexpress store) is run by the rando people who created it. Some moderators do a good job and some don't.I'm a co-moderator (since 2019) of /r/riscv. When Chris invited me to help him it was just hitting 2500 members, this coming week it's likely to hit 20,000 members. It actually requires very little moderation, most people are well-behaved, and actually we manually approve far more posts and comments that get smitten by a bot than we nuke things. So far we haven't had to ban anyone.On the other hand, some of the less technical more social or political subs are a nightmare. And some of them have millions of members.Eevblog forum looks to have around 70,000 members, but the vast majority are inactive. I see the same names all the time, in every topic. I'm roughly the 100th most active poster, and there are about 300 more (400 total) in "Super Contributor" (1000+ comments). By the time you get to #1000 you have people with fewer than 100 comments, at #10000 it's 20 comments, and at #20000 it's 7 comments.So eevblog forum is about three times bigger than /r/riscv by members (maybe 5x by posts and comments each day), but compared to many Reddit subs it's tiny, close-knit, and mostly self-policing.

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2024, 04:44:16 am
content: Twitter also bans for wrongthink, so not sure who thinks it's better and why.Quote from: brucehoult on July 06, 2024, 01:23:46 amMaybe because there is too many stupid subreddits and too many stupid usersAnd regarding reddit itself, wokeness and censorship, they are also known to ban whole subs on sometimes less and sometimes more questionable grounds.There are exceptions among small, technical-oriented subs like for example r/DataHoarder, which I found to be useful several times when looking for unpublished information about disks, but for most of the time when I find myself on reddit it's nonsense and waste of time. I usually get there form search or links, as I'm not a regular reddit user myself.Your comparison with AliExpress is quite apt, actuallyAnd then there is the whole matter ofQuote from: brucehoult on July 06, 2024, 01:23:46 amand, allegedly, numerous members who have nothing better to do with their time then weaseling into moderation of aforementioned type of subs to fight with users and police what can or cannot be posted - something I see actual reddit users complaining about.

author: John B
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2024, 03:24:11 am
content: There's a new browser in the works which is a completely new project that gives an alternative to the Firefox based, Chrome/Chromium based browser ecosystem. It's called the Ladybird browser.It recently gained some attention lately. It seems the lead developer wishes to keep the project a technical exercise and free of ideological influence, and so naturally it was subsequently attacked by woke weirdos who went on a truffle pig deep dive expedition to find the following heretical charges:Transphobia: Not wanting to adopt nouveau pronouns in the documentation.Support of slavery: Still using the term "master" in the code and documentation."Misoginy": Who even knows, but woke women can't go 5 seconds without tagging onto something to also feel like a victim.Thankfully it seems like the developer is somewhat familiar with this game and hasn't capitulated like people normally do. I think more and more people are catching onto the notion that wokeness is a fascistic, imperialistic and colonial ideology. Or a political form of herpes, whatever you prefer.Vid related:

author: brucehoult
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2024, 04:23:14 am
content: Quote from: John B on July 07, 2024, 03:24:11 amSome other browser developers are also Brave...

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2024, 05:38:22 am
content: Brave, Brave new world.Methinks some people should find something fruitful to do. But, hey. Being a woke agent looks like a legit job these days, so whatever.

author: John B
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2024, 06:32:26 am
content: I flip flop between Firefox and Brave browser on a daily basis, I think Brave is an overall sleeker, faster and more compatible experience. But Firefox is like those comfy old slippers.....But with Brave being chromium based, I'm just keeping my options open as I'm waiting to see how this manifest v3 situation works out.

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2024, 07:06:24 am
content: Quote from: John B on July 07, 2024, 03:24:11 amIt's impossible not to be familiar if you are in softwareFor some reason, it has attracteda lotof those unhinged nerds and they are everywhere.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2024, 08:02:11 am
content: People just need a community and a cause. That brings them both.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2024, 08:10:42 am
content: Quote from: magic on July 07, 2024, 07:06:24 amNothing new. They can be found everywhere and in every field. Frank Zappa describes this perfectly in his song Flakes.One might say that the human race is broken by wokeness, or at least a large part of it.