EEVblab #60 - Kickstarter Free Energy SCAMS! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 13, 2019, 12:19:22 am
content: Dave looks at three current free energy scams on Kickstarter.This crap got APPROVED by Kickstarter!https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1252786901/physics-powered-electrical-generator-prototype/descriptionhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/49546066/clean-and-abundant-energy-generatorhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/homoelectricity/homo-electrichttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/enceladus/affordable-household-hydro-electric-generator-prot

author: johnlsenchak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2019, 01:52:03 am
content: Homo Electric I can't stop laughing over that name Yep their DC motor is "Homo Electric " all right ,total wankeryI tried doing perpendicular motion when I was about 13, by connecting a DC motor shaft to another DC motor shaft and connecting the voltage of the 2nd one to the first to see if it would self maintain motion . It doesn't freak'in work due to friction loss ! You don't need a electrical engineering degree to realize that fact !

author: Cnoob
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2019, 06:41:09 am
content: They don't need to overcome friction or the laws of physics just obey the rules of kickstarter and cross their fingersthat no one in the kickstarter team, knows how to use the google search engine.

author: FrankBuss
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 13, 2019, 07:10:44 am
content: I guess the homo-electric Kickstarter are using illegally "Storms in Africa" from Enya:It is heavily butchered, only a short sample repeating again and again, but I wrote a message to her Twitter account, in case he didn't buy a license for it, which I highly doubt.

author: ModemHead
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2019, 12:56:58 pm
content: Quote from: johnlsenchak on March 13, 2019, 01:52:03 amWankery and perpendicular motion. What a stroke of genius.

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2019, 02:21:33 pm
content: Kickstarter has to clamp down on this kind of crap, because it detracts from the legitimate projects.Being a good marketer is one thing - we want to see that. Being an outright liar and scammer is another matter!

author: FrankBuss
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 14, 2019, 07:59:54 am
content: BTW, this is the home-electric demonstration video:You can actually see the cables from inside the house at the right side, which they tried to hide with paint or video editing.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2019, 08:24:25 am
content: Quote from: FrankBuss on March 13, 2019, 07:10:44 amI recognized the music as well, and I hope the YT copyrights bots don't hit Dave for that.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 14, 2019, 11:50:50 pm
content: It's official, they don't care about the laws of physics

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 15, 2019, 01:46:20 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on March 14, 2019, 11:50:50 pmOh, I think theydocare - but only as much as they understand, which is probably not much more than "If I drop my phone it could break and then I won't be able to get to Facebook/Twitter/Instagram".I would like to use the term "muppet" - but I think Kermit, Miss Piggy and even Animal are better rounded in their general knowledge.The bottom line is, even the people at Kickstarter don't understand the significance of what you're saying.

author: FrankBuss
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 15, 2019, 02:53:52 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on March 14, 2019, 11:50:50 pmI reported this, too, citing theWikipedia article, and even explaining that you can see the mains cables from inside the house in the demonstration video, but got the same answer. This is ridiculous, they really need an engineer for reviewing such physical campaigns.

author: Deodand2014
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2019, 10:09:14 am
content: It could just be that they've hired people who've gone through university humanities courses and been taught that science, reason, logic et al were created by the 'White Man' to oppress and should therefore be replaced with 'other ways of knowing' which generally boils down to 'If itfeelsright,it is right.'

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2019, 11:25:31 am
content: Quote from: Deodand2014 on April 24, 2019, 10:09:14 amSadly that's not a joke.

author: Doom-the-Squirrel
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 12:07:03 am
content: Quote from: Deodand2014 on April 24, 2019, 10:09:14 amIsn't that the same type that Thunderf00t made a video about once?I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

author: Deodand2014
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2019, 09:01:43 am
content: Quote from: Doom-the-Squirrel on November 25, 2019, 12:07:03 amHere is King Crocoduck's take of this.

author: Chet
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2022, 10:16:24 pm
content: It's annoying to be considered a scam when a scientific journal approves...https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362241719_Free_Energy_is_a_Self-fulfilling_Proposition_if_a_Specific_Set_of_Conditions_are_MetResearchGate seems to approve of this journal, theIJSER, since they have a time-honored slot for its recognition on their website.

author: Buriedcode
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2022, 10:57:23 pm
content: Quote from: Chet on August 14, 2022, 10:16:24 pmDoesn't make it any less of a predatory journal:https://beallslist.net/standalone-journals/It seems anyone can get a paper published there, so long as they pay the fee.

author: Chet
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2022, 12:26:08 am
content: Quote from: Buriedcode on August 14, 2022, 10:57:23 pmThank you for that insight.What would constitute a filtration mechanism to prevent the ease of publication?

author: Daixiwen
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2022, 06:59:10 am
content: Quote from: Chet on August 14, 2022, 10:16:24 pmI need to educate myself more in free energy science because that article is complete gibberish to me

author: Buriedcode
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2022, 06:25:52 pm
content: Quote from: Chet on August 15, 2022, 12:26:08 amWell actual peer review would be a bare minimum surely. Predatory publishers will host any article, regardless of its source of validity, for a fee. Half the articles from that publisher read like AI generated word salad. Whilst that doesn't necessarily mean any article they have is fake/AI generated/laughable, it doesn't add any kind of credibility to it - if anything it harms it because if a paper has any kind of legitimacy, it would surely be accepted by a more credible publisher - if it hasn't then it ends up there.edit:typos.