Fuel-free power generator - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Geoff_S
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 01:11:40 am
content: Details are scant, but this seems to be a perpetual motion machine. It's depressing that journalists publish this junk without question...https://www.ecogeneration.com.au/australian-entrepreneur-creates-fuel-free-power-generator/“We have created the GGOE Gearbox, the first step to completing Nikola Tesla’s dream of free energy,” says Pascoe.“We believe we will fundamentally change the way power is generated across the world. Power will be generated for free – anywhere, anytime.“The only cost will be maintenance of the technology.”The first GGOE Gearbox prototype has been built, and an Australian standard patent has been established.The company says the product is ready to move into production for commercially viable units, hence the call for global investment.“The GGOE Gearbox consists of a pair of motors powered by a starter battery to start the system, which generates thousands of Newton meters of torque,” says Pascoe.“Using that torque, the connected turbine generates power."My aim is to see a GGOE Gearbox in every vehicle, machine, appliance, house and building throughout the world.“We have drawn on fundamentally revolutionary technology and improved it for today’s environment to ensure it is fit for purpose.”

author: BrokenYugo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 01:51:30 am
content: I think I concluded that idea won't work around the age of 12.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 06:37:52 pm
content: Quote from: Geoff_S on July 21, 2022, 01:11:40 amThe word 'gearbox' says it all for me, nothing with a gearbox is going anywhere near perpetual (lossless)QuoteTesla must be spinning (perpetually?) in his grave about having his name associated with all of these free energy scams these days.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 07:19:03 pm
content: Where did they get the idea that the Tesla turbine was meant to generate "free energy" anyway?

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 07:36:00 pm
content: when these things are so clearly impossible to anyone with even the most basic understand of physics, it really hard to believe they are just "naive" and not scam artists

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 08:03:59 pm
content: No way are they "naive" they are looking for partners (in crime?) and worldwide investment.But just think of the benefits...QuoteInfinite lawns!

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 08:07:29 pm
content: They have this too:https://www.ggoe.org/pages/ggoe-atmospheric-water-generator

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 08:16:29 pm
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on July 21, 2022, 08:07:29 pmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 08:17:03 pm
content: QuoteNo Kidding!

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 21, 2022, 08:36:53 pm
content: Quote from: Gyro on July 21, 2022, 08:17:03 pmbut the inventor is one of the more well-versed futurists and an experience enthusiastthe whole site is just word salad

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 09:36:44 am
content: On the plus side, they do have an availability date - December this year. I've been running low on manure at home, could come just in time.

author: BrianHG
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2022, 07:33:04 pm
content: Hmmm, fuel free... Well, it then must be a geothermal power plant running off of the leftover heat of the earth (well, I guess there are also radioactive isotopes which also maintain our core's temperature. Dammit, that is still a type of fuel). Almost anything else uses or are results from the sun which uses hydrogen fusion fuel. Hey, wait, arent all of these sources of combined atoms a product generated by gravity? Maybe a gravity generator could work, like a hydro electric damn. (Dammit again.)Maybe find a small black hole and drop in matter to sequester energy from that matter's orbital decay into oblivion. Make your own black hole and I'll invest. Though, how much fuel and energy do you need to create your own reasonably sized black hole, one large enough that the Hawking radiation coming out is sufficiently tiny that you can feed the black hole? Or, maybe balance the black hole size so that the Hawking radiation is a perfect balanced source of heat energy to power your steam turbine generator. But, how do you feed such a tiny black hole? And what happens if you don't feed it as it evaporates away?

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2022, 08:56:41 am
content: It's a battery connected to a motor connected to a generator providing power.Don't let the "starter battery" fool ya, it's just the trade name for the cargo ship sized battery they provide with the setup.In other words, it is a fricking huge battery connected to a rotary phase converter; the very latest of early 1900s technology. Whoo-pee.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2022, 10:49:49 am
content: But the inventor is going to safe the worldHe is going to free us all of our money to do soQuoteSo it is not free then. The maintenance cost means replace the battery every day, but only our specialty made battery will do

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2022, 06:13:29 pm
content: It's about as free as EVs are currently "carbon-neutral". So, why not. As long as you get to define your own terms.

author: BrianHG
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2022, 08:04:51 pm
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on July 23, 2022, 10:49:49 amYou could say the same about hydro power generation. Once the hardware is there, if the water source and damn reservoir is designed right, it is the maintenance which is your cost. No fuel ever needed. Not only that, but a proper single hydro damn can power a city or two, even enough to smelt aluminum on an industrial scale, without the need for all these tiny noisy generators and batteries everywhere. You can even make the same argument about an industrial solar power farm. And solar power doesn't need to have any mechanical moving parts.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2022, 03:18:46 am
content: Sure hydro power only needs maintenance, which can be costly on the older ones, but that is besides the point. But look at lake mead and the hoover dam, how long will that be able to provide power if the water level drops?An other point on hydro power is that there is a constant supply of energy on the input. The potential energy in the water, which has to be replenished by rain or smelt water.Industrial solar farms on the other hand if based on photovoltaic principle will need replacement of the panels every so many years, which is costly. And when setup to track the sun there are moving parts. Same when another principle are used, like mirrors to heat up salt or mineral oil.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2022, 03:28:47 am
content: Quote from: pcprogrammer on July 24, 2022, 03:18:46 amafaiu lake mead and the hoover dam, is planned for if not already doing pumped storage

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2022, 04:27:10 am
content: horsepower

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2022, 04:32:56 am
content: Quote from: jonovid on July 24, 2022, 04:27:10 amWith in the background wind power

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2022, 05:48:09 am
content: You know, horses, dogs, cows, all love to "work" for humans when treated well and their health and wellbeing is taken care of.It is surprisingly rewarding work to do (take care and work with them, I mean) for us humans, too. Very different to cubicle-dwelling.The people who run these scams could not care less about those they exploit. As long as they get to keep the money and don't need to go to jail, they don't care a tiny bit if their bullshit harms people. If they could whip the people and laugh at their faces afterwards without repercussions, they definitely would.I do so hate exploiters, from the bottom of my heart.

author: helio0centra@gmail.com
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2022, 11:27:20 pm
content: The "starter" battery is actually what is driving the whole system till it dies and it all stops.

author: helio0centra@gmail.com
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2022, 11:31:16 pm
content: I found the official website and their promotion video.https://www.ggoe.org/pages/ggoe-gearbox

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2022, 12:31:00 am
content: A fool and his money are soon parted, and people want to believe. I don't know why people even bother to discuss these scams, they're all the same, and gullible people will keep falling for them.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2022, 08:53:41 am
content: Quote from: james_s on July 26, 2022, 12:31:00 amBecause publicly, openly, freely exposing them as the ridiculous scams as they are, is the only way to oppose them. If we don't, who will?All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

author: pcprogrammer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2022, 09:09:53 am
content: Looks good does it not, that big generator standing besides the house.But then think of the noise it will produce with all those grinding gears in it

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2022, 05:53:15 pm
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 26, 2022, 08:53:41 amIt's a noble effort, but if you manage to convince someone it is fake, they'll only latch onto the next similar scam. I've given up on trying to save foolish people from themselves. We know any of these are scams without even investigating because we already know that a over-unity is not possible, no machine can produce energy from nothing.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2022, 06:07:38 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on July 26, 2022, 05:53:15 pmActually, because I'm this verbose even in real life, and I've told them exactly why these scams exist, my close ones have started to debunk scams on their own to others. So, I do think it does actually work.If every engineer and scientist taught their close ones to detect these scams, and point them out and laugh at them, then at least our close ones would not fall victim to these scammers. We are, after all, the pools of rationality in a rather irrational and emotive-instinctual social sea. Maybe that's one of our evolutional purposes after all, hmm?