Fake Hakko FX-888D - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Greg65
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2019, 04:29:05 am
content: Hi,I was going to buy a new Hakko FX-888D on ebay but soon learned that there are many fake ones out there. The dead give away was the price as they are very cheap to buy. They look very much identical, are they any good and whats the difference ?

author: odessa
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2019, 07:54:46 am
content: So, it seems if you want a good quality copy for free, you can buy it on eBay then claim a refund and keep the copy .... win win

author: Raj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2019, 02:09:08 pm
content: As far as I know, it's just a self heating metal rod with grounding. If the heater, tip design & plating and PID formula is same, they'll perform equal. Correct me if i'm wrong, but by buying original, you support the inventor.Does hakko have their own store?

author: odessa
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2019, 02:13:13 pm
content: I would always buy genuine, but if enough people bought the fakes and got full refunds then eventually the fakes will stop appearing on Ebay.

author: //Matt//
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2019, 08:05:38 pm
content: The original is going to last longer and be more robust. I don't know how safe these fakes are either.Quote from: Raj on April 25, 2019, 02:09:08 pmThat is true as well.

author: KL27x
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 27, 2019, 01:12:57 am
content: QuoteThere is no PID. There is firmware only for the interface and display and for user calibration, which are easy to duplicate. There is nothing special about the electronics, at all. If you can wire a comparator to a triac and do temp sensing with a thermistor amplified and buffered by opamps, you have as good a circuit as a 936 or an 888. But the performance doesn't much come from the electronic control circuit.Other than supporting Hakko, the main reason to buy a real one are1. Materials. You can think plastic is plastic, but it's not. The plastic at the front of the handpiece is exposed to high temps, and many clone handpieces will eventually break in half after 2-4 years. The really sketchy ones will actually melt if used at high temps.2. Construction and tolerance of the heater. There are many clone heaters that vary in quality, and I think all of them are constructed of wound nichrome wire element with a ceramic cover. These are usually a looser fit. And they have a limited life expectancy. Probably 2-4 years, and they will burn out.I have heard the current Hakko element uses a film element. W/e the case may be, it performs better and it lasts longer. You can buy replacements, but AFAIK, the only reason you would need to do that is if you drop and break it. It is also probably more resistant to breaking than some of the clones.3. Power supply. The 888D meets spec under load. Clones may or may not.So even with equally good electronics (you'd have to a total idiot to not be able to replicate the electronics), I've used many clones that are obviously inferior in power and/or thermal coupling, as well as efficiency (regarding how much of the heat gets to the tip vs burning up your hand). If the clone meets your needs, and if 2-4 years is longer than you really care to plan ahead for, then a clone might be a good value. In 2 years, you could be using $600.00 stations or you could have thrown away all your soldering equipment, because you don't care to do it, anymore.This particular clone might be better than most, but I wouldn't know.I'm not a tool snob. I have expensive tools and cheap tools, and sometimes you can't tell the difference. Sometimes you can, but the price difference makes the cheap tool a good value. Sometimes the real thing is the bargain. I can't say where the line gets drawn for anyone else, but the genuine Hakko 888/888d is pretty damn good. Don't let the high cost of replacing a handpiece concern you. It is built to last. I hope I outlive mine. I wouldn't bet on it.