Stupid Windows design - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Spekkio
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2011, 09:37:22 am
content: Probably the most irritating design flaw in Windows I have encountered so far.When I quickly typed "cmd" in the start menu and pressed enter I probably missed the little box and shutdown was marked, so when I hit enter my computer shutdownstupid.

author: Jimmy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2011, 10:57:47 am
content: Try using the win button + rthen cmd and ok

author: Computeruser
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2011, 06:44:54 pm
content: To be fair, I have never shutdown when running cmd.exe. Windows is just software and will do what you tell it. So, too, will Linux. .... C

author: Semantics
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2011, 07:16:53 pm
content: Always look before you press enter.Incidentally, that rule has saved me from sending many rude things to my boss via work chat.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 01, 2011, 09:35:25 pm
content: What windows version are you running ?

author: RayJones
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2011, 10:54:03 pm
content: I find the shutdown button on Windows 7 is far more annoying.After years of XP use I have been trained to use Start-Shutdown, then select logoff, hibernate, turn off etc.Windows 7 removes the 3rd step and immediately starts the shutdown - no abort possible :-(And yes the Windows key and various letters is very useful.Windows R, and having cmd already sitting there (as that's all I usually run that way) is nice and painless.Windows E is another that spawns new explorer windows which likewise is quicker than using the GUI.But the quirk in Windows 7 is selecting the icon in the shortcut bar now toggles showing the explorer or hiding it.You need to hold shift to get a second - arrrggghh.

author: Computeruser
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2011, 11:20:26 pm
content: You just need to get used to it. I set Windows 7 Pro up in classic format (because I like it). So I see Start -> Shutdown with an arrow that selects other options. Just get used to clicking on the little arrow.>>> quirk in Windows 7 is selecting the icon in the shortcut bar now toggles showing the explorer or hiding it. <-- I don't think I understand this. I don't see this effect so far as I can tell. Again, I just adapted to Windows 7 and I find it works fine. No question it is different than XP, but then, it is not XP. And Windows 8 (in a few months) will not be either..... C

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 04, 2011, 12:42:06 am
content: Quote from: Computeruser on September 03, 2011, 11:20:26 pmHow have they rearranged the menus this time?I've gone way past expecting anything in the way of innovation from Microsoft. Upgrades being merely an excuse to cripple a lot of applications from running on older versions.Windows is stupid design period, I'd love to replace it entirely, but the will of legions of zombie clickers ensures that isn't possible. Not the first time I've been forced to use a poorly conceived tool.If you think using windows is a bitch, it's a doddle compared with programming into the mess.

author: Computeruser
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2011, 01:05:05 am
content: >>> Windows is stupid design period,Let me assure you: 90 % of the world is NOT stupid and as long as I am in here, you will find I am NOT stupid either.Windows 7 takes some getting used to (I already said that) but once you do, it is very straightforward to use. I have no trouble with it at all.I have used it all: DOS (all versions 1 through 6), Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT4, Windows 2000, Windows XP Pro, Windows Vista Business, Windows 7 Pro, RedHat Linux 7, 8 and 9, SuSE Linux 9, Ubuntu 6, 7 and 10.So you see, I have used it all, and out of that, Windows 7 is straightfoward to use.... C

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 04, 2011, 01:49:05 am
content: Quote from: Computeruser on September 04, 2011, 01:05:05 amHow does that work? You are 90% of the world? Or your beingin heresomehow reduces world stupidity?QuoteTo quote a Monty Python sketch."All fish live in the water!, Carp are fish! so logically all fish are Carp"See the correlation? Yes Windows is pitched tho the lowest common denominator, the stupid user. That does not imply all windows users are stupid even though the majority most definitely are.QuoteWhich begs the question, why? Why should it take getting used to? It's hardly a quantum leap from it's predecessor unless your the kind of numbskull who considers seethrough menus that eat millions of CPU cycles as some kind of new world. Why did the menus have to be shuffled? Did windows get it so wrong previously? "Getting used to" isn't the phrase I'd use to describe the labyrinth if extra keystroke and moron intended popups that need to be negotiated to achieve what were previously single step menu selections. popups exist solely for the benefit of those to dim to read the screen they are looking at.QuoteThat's akin to saying running a marathon is easy, because when your done you can sit in a fold up chair and enjoy a cool drink!Quotevery happy for you.QuoteNada nada nada, what no CPM, no windows ME, no DR-DOS, never used a VAX or PDP-11, no Macintosh? Never driven a WWII truck or ridden an Austrian motorcycle? Personal laundrylists are all very well but your depth of experience has no bearing on the useability of Microsoft's latest OS.QuoteThat could easily be interpreted as "Windows 7 is straight forward but only for those who have extensive experience with PC operating systems.Face it Windows 7 is eye candy release, it's been nothing more than a means of Microsoft maintaining it's revenue stream through selling all their true believers another shiny new box of promises. I fear Windows 8 will be a similar deal.The fact Windows 7 can be negotiated does not equate to easy to negotiate. From an engineers perspective Windows is is failing big time on usability for the advanced operator. Why do we have to suffer more and more keystrokes and mouse clicks? Looks like Microsoft considers their user base to be as dim as I had previously suggested.

author: RayJones
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2011, 07:53:45 am
content: Quote from: Computeruser on September 03, 2011, 11:20:26 pmSo you really don't like the "improved" windows 7 format then, and you are telling me to get used to it?Which way is it then?I am adapting, but there is a lot of subliminal reprogramming that needs to take place, and flipping back to XP on other machines does not make this any easier.There is an old saying, "If it aint broke, don't fix it"Quote from: Computeruser on September 03, 2011, 11:20:26 pmYeah you are using XP mode!It's pretty easy, the explorer icon lives down next to the "start" button (actually more like the "windows world" button on Win7.Click on it you see explorer, click on it again explorer is minimised, click again, it is restored.When you want to really add another explore window, as you could without shenanigans on XP, you now have to hold shift to do it.Whereas Windows E just dishes up another explorer.So will you still be using XP look and feel on Windows 8?

author: Computeruser
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2011, 11:29:56 am
content: >>> Yeah you are using XP mode! <---- No.>>> Click on it you see explorer, click on it again explorer is minimised, click again, it is restored. <--- That is just normal operation. I don't have any issue with it.>>> So will you still be using XP look and feel on Windows 8? <--- No.I think I am done with this thread. I don't have any difficulty with Windows 7 and I don't think I implied that I did. I think it is a good progression in operating system. Windows 2000 was not broke either.... C

author: Tony R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2011, 11:30:31 pm
content: Uncle VernonQuoteand i thought that was mac all this time... but i still agree with most of that statement