My most disliked recent video - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 10:15:40 am
content: Well that's interesting. Of the last 4 videos, the one with the greatest dislike ratio is the heat sink design video. The video that is arguably the most on-topic for electronics design.

author: OwO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 10:22:02 am
content: on youtube a 3% dislike rate is nothing.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 10:27:04 am
content: Also, of your viewership, the number of people who will actually design their own heatsink will be relatively small.Compared to a more general video which will appeal to more people.

author: chris_leyson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 11:06:59 am
content: I liked itIt's an important topic. Thanks for the Saturn PCB tools heads up.

author: ogden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 11:10:47 am
content: Quote from: Psi on March 29, 2019, 10:27:04 amExactly. One of YT problems: there are justonetwo buttons. Some may press "dislike" to signal another meaning, such as "bored because contents irrelevant to me". Disclaimer: I pressed like to promote channel, thou lost attention quickly and did not watch whole episode, sorry. I agree that 3% dislikes are "below noise floor"

author: frozenfrogz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 11:23:21 am
content: Also, you are comparing a just recently released video to others that have been up longer.-> absolute vs. relative figuresHow does it all compare to initial responses, say only comparing reactions of the first 12 hours for every video?In absolute terms, 34 dislikes are less then 57 dislikes for the 4K TV video. So....

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 11:43:34 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on March 29, 2019, 10:15:40 amThanks for making me feel weird. I liked the custom heatsink video because it showed something new (for me) and something I had not thought about ever before. Maybe the least liked videos are actually the most interesting ones

author: ogden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:02:16 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on March 29, 2019, 11:43:34 amIt clearly depends on video versus who is watching. EEVblog channel most likely have broad audience - from beginners to hardcore professionals. Some advanced video may get "dislikes" from beginners, some snobs may rate production quality instead of contents and so on...

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:16:40 pm
content: Personally I liked the heat sink video.... but.... it kept stopping and showing ads in the middle... didn't like that.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:18:42 pm
content: Quote from: frozenfrogz on March 29, 2019, 11:23:21 amThat's why I noticed it, because the initial ratio is higher than usual, not something I'd ordinarily see for such an on-topic technical design video.The views are normally lower on these types of videos for obvious appeal reasons, but the dislikes are usually pretty small as well, like 1% or less.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:20:52 pm
content: Quote from: ogden on March 29, 2019, 12:02:16 pmYes, many reasons. I know a couple of viewers who said they dislike every time I include a "clickbait" thumbnail, which means any thumbnail with text on it

author: WN1X
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:23:39 pm
content: Maybe someone is stuffing the dislike box?Have you looked at the demographics for the dislikes?I found the heat sink video very interesting and something I had never considered before

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:40:25 pm
content: I liked it.

author: ogden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:53:18 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on March 29, 2019, 12:18:42 pmWhat about #1103 with 4% dislikes? #1104 is better but far from 1%. I like both very much and 4% is puzzling. Unless dislikes skyrocket for some video, most likely you shall just ignore them - because you have broad audience. Maybe views/dislikes is better measure? On the other hand you have 633k subscribers and you wonder about ~40 who pressed dislike?- Better invest your time into next video

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 12:54:20 pm
content: heat sink is a expensive component, they want to use the PCB to carry 95 amps in a 3d printed plastic chassis. bus bars and heat sinks make people rage, so does heavy gauge wireis this component OK at 120C for long term use??for them its better such components are forgotten

author: tpowell1830
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 01:22:46 pm
content: I liked the video, however, I rarely click the like button because every video in which I click the like button gets put on my YT channel for future reference. The reason is that I only press the like button because it is about something that I want to do, but have no idea "how-to" and my channel "liked" videos is my library of knowledge squirreled away until I need the information. I have my channel setup so that when I press a like button, the video is posted on my videos page.Bottom line, the only time that I will "like" a video is if it is completely out of my expertise, comprehensive and accurate, and I intend to utilize the knowledge for some project. This way, I let YT take the hit of being my librarian for unknown (for me) skills. When I get around to doing a project in which I need this information, I need look no further than my own channel. So, if there are others like me out there that only click for the aforementioned reasons, the "like" to "unlike" ratio is pointless and skewed. If I clicked the like button for every video that I liked from Dave, it would be very close to 100%.EDIT: I very rarely press the dislike button because I know that it may possibly affect someones' livelihood (means to get paid). I know this a rare thing, thinking about someone else other than yourself, but some of us do actually think that way. Who am I to judge whether it is a good or bad video, we all have our own personal inner judges.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 01:30:00 pm
content: Quote from: WN1X on March 29, 2019, 12:23:39 pmIf the dislikes were disturbingly disproportionate then this would probably be a good place to start with to ascertain the cause. For all we know there could be a boy band called Heat Sink and YouTubes a-lotto-rhythm is just recommending your video to a different audience.

author: KaneTW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 01:41:28 pm
content: Dislikes are meaningless, especially in statistically insignificant amounts.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 01:50:57 pm
content: I would expect this video to get less likes than average: Only a small proportion of the users will be into electronics design and product integration deep enough to justify/require custom heatsinks. And it is not a "sexy", cool topic either. (Hmm, come to think of it, it might qualify as "cool" indeed...)Whether a lack of interest is enough to trigger a dislike? Probably, for some people... But anyway, as others have said, no cause for alarm looking at the small number.Edit: Arznei has a point in his post below. Now having watched the video, it does have annoyingly low information density. I sometimes enjoy Dave's rambling videos, but only if they are about something fun. For a technicality like this, I prefer to-the-point information.

author: Arznei
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 02:10:11 pm
content: First off all, I don't want to come of as rude here. I didn't dislike the video, I don't think it deserves a dislike, but since you are mentioning the topic and I canceled the video halfway through on my first click, my *guess* is you *might* be interested in why I did so. Not that you should be and not that it matters (its like, still a pretty good liked video from the current like/dislike ratio and I would not consider it bad in any way shape or form).When I watched the video it just didn't seem to have a high information density. When I was about 9 minutes in, I had the feeling the only thing that I had learned so far was that you had someone machine a custom piece of aluminium for you which you designed to fit on top of your board. That is pretty neat, but it's not a 9 minute topic of conversation. There was no mention of how many W/K this heatsink is going to dissipate, nor how many it needed to. Nothing was said about the design process of the heatsink since David 2 did it. You mention you did an earlier video about heatsinks where you *do* go into the specifics of such stuff. So at this point the video felt just like you were going to show a piece of aluminium into the camera for 24 minutes.Now please, for the love of god, don't get me wrong. I do not mind that at all, but *maybe* others did and disliked because of that. Thats all I'm saying. Me personally, I could listen to you rambling on for hours (and sometimes I do) just because I think you have a nice voice and the topics are relatable for me.I really hope this post doesn't come off as rude. English is not my first language and I feel I might not have done a good enough job of expressing myself here.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 06:35:51 pm
content: I'm with Arznei. The amount of actual useful information on that is pretty low. "We think it will dissipate well enough" is not a good answer in a design video. If you are referring to some rule of thumb, it would be prudent to mention it.Not mentioning suppliers is also annoying. People don't want to contact "any random factory in China". People want to see specific recommendation of factories that did the job right.That being said, I did not like or dislike the video and watched it all in the background.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 06:50:08 pm
content: QuoteThat says it all.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 06:54:30 pm
content: how is that not a 9 minute topic of discussion? its important.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2019, 06:59:45 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on March 29, 2019, 06:54:30 pmButyoujust demonstrated how to get your point (which is important to you, and seems equal in complexity to the "someone machined a piece of metal for me") across in less than 9 minutes.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 02:12:10 am
content: If you wanted pure data, Dave could have put together a datasheet on the heatsink.What I saw in this video was theprocess.As for not identifying the particular machine shop, I don't see a problem with that. If he DID nominate the one he used, then there are two potential repercussions. The first is criticism for using that business - because of this reason or that reason. Dave would not want to offer any excuses for people to whinge. The second is that there is nothing special about the business he chose and that there are alternative businesses that could have done the job. Nominating one would be unfair to the rest.As for the design itself and thermal efficiency, I imagine it was a matter of having a good gut feel for the amount of power needed to be dissipated and designing something which seemed appropriate to fit the envelope (an important criteria here). Whether it is adequate will be found in testing - which would have to be done regardless. If it's inadequate, then they will have an idea ofhowinadequate it is and the next evolution will address that. However, experience provides the ability to assess and decide how to approach a particular problem without having to go through a lengthy mathematical process. I don't doubt we will see how this heatsink performs as the project progresses.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 02:36:08 am
content: Why is it even possible to dislike anything? ISIS chopped heads i dont dislike because its evidence. Whenever a youtuber i bother watch start do some common ranting or else i just increase replay speed to x2 i newer dislike it since its "content providing" despite the rant or even filmed bad with bad sound and shaky camera!

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 02:38:21 am
content: It may be a useful guidance for the creator. As a creator, it is possible to disable like/dislike buttons, if you don't want to see that stuff.

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 03:01:04 am
content: No nude Swiss virgins were involved in the process.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 03:08:04 am
content: Quote from: schmitt trigger on March 30, 2019, 03:01:04 amCan't argue with you there.

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 10:09:02 am
content: For the actual heat sink video: it shows a new trick for the bag of tricks - for me. I like it.Since a few days Youtube seems to recommend different than usual, often older videos and some unrelated ones, otoh i started to watch older episodes of channels i subscribed to anyway.Some channels i watch figured that some dislikes are more or less just about having been recommended this video and viewers think that the use of the dislike button will not show them this or this kind of video again. When i started to watch Youtube i pretty much thought the same (because it differs from a report, and it is the only spot where you can express personal choice regarding which videos you want to watch), just until i understood that creators take this as an opinion on their content.Or you happen to use a word with a different meaning in a different language which is trending somewhere, getting this out of context.So there will always be a noise floor.

author: JackJones
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 10:16:09 am
content: Quote from: MT on March 30, 2019, 02:36:08 amI dislike freebooted videos. That means when someone has taken a video from another channel and reuploaded to theirs (most often with ads, that's kind of the point of that kind of thing, to generate money).I've often come across interesting videos and wondered why they have so high dislike video. It's useful for identifying that kind of activity. And it's not a niche activity either, freebooted videos are everywhere.

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 10:22:10 am
content: I just came from that video. I gave up and went to the forum only to discover this topic.The first several minutes are "watch my other video", with some interesting talk and overlays. The next few mins were "heatsinks can move heat". After hearing that the heatsink size was chosen by rule of thumb I felt the video wasn't going anywhere.Side story: years ago I saw some new books in a library. They looked flashy and their titles were of interesting topics, but when I opened one up I realised they were shallow web researched writing + random licensed images. I asked a librarian there about them and was told that the publisher had been aggressively trying to get the library to purchase some and then sign up for more, but they came to the same conclusion I did.Dave: I sense the publisher/platform/model demands regular content?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 10:50:43 am
content: Quote from: tpowell1830 on March 29, 2019, 01:22:46 pmDislikes do not affect a creators income or search ranking etc, in fact it improves the ranking because it's all "engagement"

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 10:57:22 am
content: Quote from: Arznei on March 29, 2019, 02:10:11 pmYep, that's most likely the reason.

author: igendel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 01:00:14 pm
content: I wasn't going to say anything, but since the topic was raised... yes, I too abandoned this video because it seemed to go on and on with no useful, "actionable" info (while itisa very interesting topic). I didn't Dislike though, it takes much worse than that for a thumbs-down

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 01:35:01 pm
content: IME I see two scenarios for dislikes. In my puny channel I noticed the videos with dislikes are usually followed by comments that evidence frustration - i.e., an unmet expectation. That could be amplified by Youtube's recommendation algorithm.The other scenario is similar to Aznet: someone commented on a repair video of mine how the objectivity was lacking, which I completely agree and explained in a reply how it is par for the course.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 03:47:01 pm
content: Your Why UNI-T Meters Suck may be your best. Still a far cry from when I damaged one. Funny thing was attempting to damage a second one, fails at the same level and ratio changes. When it comes to UNI-T, a spoon full of sugar.....

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2019, 03:53:53 pm
content: Dave I gave it a thumbs up, it was interesting, I liked it. Buuut, I was about to dislike the one about the audio jack of your living room telly (Meh!)...but didn't.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2019, 01:13:53 am
content: Quote from: KaneTW on March 29, 2019, 01:41:28 pmClearly Dave doesn't seem to think so. I rarely like or dislike videos including this one. I watched it but I found it could have been shortened and the information presented no less effectively. I was mostly watching to observe the PCB details that I presume will form the new power supply project.It now seems to have a custom LCD, heatsink and I am assuming a custom case. I'll be looking to see if that is the case.I am thinking if a different custom case might have permitted standard off the shelf heatsinking or if a different custom heatsink might have permitted a standard case. And whether the fully custom approach offers compelling benefits in the final design. I imagine many buyers will be attracted to a sexy design appearance. Plus it will make copying harder.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 31, 2019, 01:58:08 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on March 31, 2019, 01:13:53 amI agree on both counts.Even if someone does copy the function, unless they go the extra mile and copy the form (which might be an expense they would want to avoid) the resultant product will clearly be identifiable as not an original. I know some people might be OK with that, but that's life and I'm sure Dave has a handle on reality.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 31, 2019, 02:34:27 am
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on March 30, 2019, 03:47:01 pmWow, they really didn't like your Uni-T review...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 31, 2019, 02:36:20 am
content: Quote from: GeorgeOfTheJungle on March 30, 2019, 03:53:53 pmThat's the thing, although my heatsink video actually didn't have much technical content, I thought the TV repair video was pretty lame, literally resoldering a connector.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 31, 2019, 02:40:09 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on March 31, 2019, 01:13:53 amThey aren't meaningless, but it's true they don't convey much real info in the scheme of things. As the content creator I get to see more subtle trends than the public figures and/or what the historical stats can provide, and I just find it interesting as I'm sure other content creators would.In this case I think Arznei has guessed it right. Creators often don't see this kind of thing because they usually don't try and watch and "digest" their own content, so often a creator sees a video differently to what the majority of the audience see it.

author: tpowell1830
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2019, 11:56:37 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on March 30, 2019, 10:50:43 amIf this is the case, then my next statement is still in effect, in my case "Who am I to judge whether it is a good or bad video, we all have our own personal inner judges.". If you think it is good for you either way, then why start a post worrying about the dislikes?

author: TheNewLab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2019, 12:51:32 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on March 29, 2019, 12:20:52 pmDave, we have already spoke about this. As I said, I get it..only this feature is new, and need to give it time to see how effective it is...but giving a "dislike" just make no sense.It's also spring break in the states...so total numbers may reflect the ratio. for me what I sell, have been slow, even services..this is typical..It usually jumps after April15th..Don't know if or how it affects YouTube views.Also for me I tend to batch watch YouTube channels i follow, Right now I'm way behind..again, don't know how that affects numbers..Maybe just give it more time..

author: boffin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 01, 2019, 01:38:58 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on March 29, 2019, 10:15:40 amThat's only because Bob Roohparvar hasn't found a way to make 800% more efficient heatsinks.

author: TheNewLab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2019, 02:09:14 am
content: just watched it. I do only oneseys and twosey prototype..Usually to modify some existing peice of equipment. That saidI liked it. gave me idea of chopping up a standard salvaged heatsink to fit or go around a through hole component as mentioned in your comments. Do an AVe style chop grinder,a little Dremel polishing, and if black, a little auto hi temp paint on spots.Does using Auto hi-temp paint block the cooling effectiveness on a heat sink? not where the chip would go...just along the cut edge??

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 01, 2019, 06:04:51 am
content: Quote from: boffin on April 01, 2019, 01:38:58 amYouhadto go there...

author: Zbig
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2019, 06:44:38 pm
content: I think at least some of the dislikes might come from "PC gamer community". It's possible that due to its topic and title the video popped up on many PC components enthusiasts' feeds and they got angry it's not about "modding" a heatsink on their latest NVidia GeForce Whatnot or Radeon Somethingorother in order to squeeze two or three additional frames per second in their favorite game of choice.