Which is better ? - Page 1
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author: Icarus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2014, 06:07:18 pm
content: Hi again folks.Which is better Rohde & Schwarz or Tektronix ?Which would yo recommend if you need to choice between themhttp://www.rohde-schwarz.com/en/product/rtm2000-productstartpage_63493-38936.htmlorhttp://www.tek.com/oscilloscope/mso3000-dpo3000Rohde & Schwarz have a smaller screen but much higher resolution. Tek have a bigger screen but lower res.And Rohde & Schwarz is %10 percent cheaper.

author: electronics man
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2014, 06:22:08 pm
content: What features and specs do you need

author: Icarus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2014, 06:33:44 pm
content: That's not for me. A friend of me asked my help to dedice. His company going to some embedded development things. (He is not own the company just working there)

author: GiskardReventlov
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2014, 07:37:24 pm
content: I don't know anything about scopes, I'm starting to look for a starter scope so that's where I am at.Just from what I've read and heard I would go with R&S. Both companies have solid pedigrees but I recall hearing that Tek no longer innovates since they were acquired by danaher. But the writing's on the wall for the scope makers. Companies like Rigol haven't just shot across the bow, they've breeched the hull.Anyway if you can trade in an old working scope you can save some $$ with R&SFrom R&S:Trade In is available until June 30, 2014.Trade In cannot be combined with any other offer, promotion or discount program.Trade In is on the R&S®RTM or R&S®RTO oscilloscope base units and does not cover any product options, software, probes or accessories. Trade In products are required to be in working order. Digital oscilloscopes of 100 MHz minimum bandwidth from Tektronix, LeCroy, Agilent/HP or other vendors are only qualified for trade in.A 30% discount can be redeemed towards the purchase of a new R&S®RTM or R&S®RTO oscilloscope base unit if the oscilloscope replaced is of the same bandwidth class.A 40% discount can be redeemed towards the purchase of a new R&S®RTM or R&S®RTO oscilloscope base unit if the oscilloscope replaced is of a lower bandwidth class.Rohde & Schwarz has the right to cancel this program any time.Trade In is available in all countries.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2014, 07:54:30 pm
content: I'd go for the scope with the highest screen resolution.

author: w2aew
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2014, 09:48:26 pm
content: I prefer the Tek. One potential advantage is a much higher variety of probes available, depending on the work that needs to be done. Lots of additional measurement and analysis packages available - from serial decode and trigger, to power analysis, etc.As far as Tek not innovating since the Danaher acquisition - pure hogwash. Take a look at the Mixed Domain Oscilloscope, the latest 50GS/s Arbitrary Waveform Generators, latest advancements in Real-Time Spectrum Analysis, etc.

author: zaoka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2014, 09:50:33 pm
content: Rohde & Schwarz of course. They are military class quality.

author: bronson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2014, 01:21:08 am
content: If they don't have any requirements, that often implies it's going to spend 2% of its life verifying a clock signal here or there and the other 98% powered off. I say get whatever looks prettiest as it sits on the shelf!Also, w2aew might note that he's not the most impartial of observers here...

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2014, 02:47:28 am
content: I have seen & used some very nice Rohde & Schwarz equipment,over the years.If R&S says it does something,--it does it!The same goes for Tektronix--or used to.I've always found Tektronix more "user-friendly",both in operation & when repairing them.In the older equipment R&S never seemed to lose the idea that they were making their stuff for a home market,so their labelling was confusing for a non-German speaker.Their Manuals were poorly translated & circuits sometimes poorly printed.Obviously,Tektronix will have some of the same problems for a non-English speaker.It could be that these problems have been addressed---but it should have been done years ago!If there is a vital passage in an explanation,leaving it to some random staff member who knows "a bit of" English/German/French/Spanish/Polish just doesn't cut it for equipment costing $10000 plus!

author: Icarus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2014, 09:52:27 am
content: Thanks guys.I gonna tell my buddy go with R&S.

author: HiTech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2014, 04:21:37 pm
content: R&S hasn't undergone compromises due to corporate nonsense. Their equipment it absolute tops. Tek is still respectable but my bets are always on R&S.

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2014, 06:43:13 pm
content: Quote from: bronson on January 22, 2014, 01:21:08 amYeah, but what you overlooked is (for many on the hobby side) this is a game of:1. My wrench is bigger than yours2. My DMM has more digits than yours3. My DMM is more accurate than yours4. My scope is faster than yours5. My scope has faster rise time than yours6. My scope has larger screen than yours7. My screw driver can change tips and is two sided8. My hammer has a removable cap on the handle and I can store some nails there... ... ...I got a kick out of how a big guy adult put on his leather tool belt and immediately I saw on his face he thinks he is a foot taller.

author: Icarus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2014, 07:56:01 pm
content: @gazelle: Wow, the video is realy help me out and thaks for the advice

author: Hydrawerk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2014, 08:01:13 pm
content: Quote from: w2aew on January 21, 2014, 09:48:26 pmIt is like they focus on other products than scopes...

author: Hydrawerk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2014, 08:06:05 pm
content: Both scopes are good, but they are just quite different. I personally prefer that Tek MSO/DPO3000 because of its familiar front panel with rotary knobs for each channel. But I cannot say anything about its actual performance.R&S®RTM2000 has IMHO too few buttons on the front panel, but it depends just on you what you prefer. The R&S built quality is very good.

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2014, 08:42:00 pm
content: Quote from: gazelle on January 22, 2014, 04:44:47 pmI've owned more Porsches than R&S gear. I've never wanted a Ferrari but do fancy a Diablo sometime soon, though that would mean doing some real work again.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2014, 02:31:08 am
content: Quote from: gazelle on January 22, 2014, 04:44:47 pmMein Gott! Es hat englischen Labels!

author: adsltd
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 23, 2014, 09:10:26 pm
content: I know the original question specifically asked for an opinion between R&S vs Tektronix but may be worth considering the Agilent MSOX3000 series... better than both of the others in my opinion. When I looked at R&S I found the interface rather awkward and really didn't get on with it but that may just be a very personal thing.