Lorentz plasma cannon - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: RAPo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2025, 01:14:36 pm
content: Is was glued to the screen watching this video

author: NE666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2025, 02:07:52 pm
content: The real hammer blow comes when your utility bill lands.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2025, 02:15:46 pm
content: I am glad to finally see a teleforce type device. I wonder what civilian uses it can have. I wonder if maybe it can map out ore veins or something.https://tenor.com/view/probe-mining-starcraft-minerals-protoss-gif-20423700https://lod.org/gallery/other/index.html

author: Fryguy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2025, 02:52:24 pm
content: Some individuals from the well known 3-letter agencies will get a 6-foot erection with a giant cheeseburger on the end of it watching this .The utility bill will be completely unimportant . . .How long will it take , until we see the first unit mounted on a u.s. navy battleship ?Or fully automated towers at the mexican border ?

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2025, 05:03:25 pm
content: If you can guide your very thin wire to the target (which is what Lorentz plasma cannon does) to fuel the generation of the plasma channel for the high current pulse, you can deliver a much more useful kinetic tungsten or uranium slug to the target, with better effects. So no, it does not have any real military use.

author: SteveThackery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2025, 06:33:57 pm
content: I was surprised by how little damage the target suffered. Just a piddling little hole in the wood and very little scorching. Bit disappointing, to be honest.And what's with the TV? He seemed to aim the weapon at the screen, so of course it would stop working.

author: NE666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2025, 08:11:16 pm
content: Quote from: SteveThackery on February 05, 2025, 06:33:57 pmSame. I think I could have done better with a bait catapult and some 10mm ball bearings.Mind you, when it comes to human targets, it's a bit spicier than a law enforcement taser.

author: Fryguy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 07:57:48 am
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on February 05, 2025, 05:03:25 pmIf physical destruction by projectile is your goal - then yes , this will not be an effective gun .But what if your goal is the destruction of electronic equipment without busting up everything ?This kind of gun can be very interesting for tactical military use in a world full of electronics .Will this kind of machine be used by some a**hole against other people ? - Well , that remains to be seen .CAN this kind of machine be used by some a**hole against other people ?`- Yes - indeed it can .This thing is incredibly dangerous . And a mid-sized truck would be enough to move it including a generator to charge it .

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 08:29:50 am
content: Quote from: Fryguy on February 06, 2025, 07:57:48 amI'd go for EMP instead of high current pulses. That is, inductively and capacitively coupled high-energy pulses, instead of conducted current pulses. Minimal risk to life and non-electronic/non-electric equipment.I can imagine tiny bug-like robots/drones used to draw these very thin wires into specific targets in say a server hall or an aircraft carrier, but human wetwork is typically more reliable. Obligatory XKCD:Quote from: Fryguy on February 06, 2025, 07:57:48 amWe know from lightning strikes that the effect varies hugely from person to person, depending on exactly which path the current takes. Within human skin, there is a layer, corium/dermis, with lots of nerves and blood vessels, with quite low electric DC resistance. If it takes that route, you can survive even a horribly high-energy strike –– and people have. If the current is conducted across your heart, even a very low-energy strike can kill you, by stopping your heart; higher-energy strikes can destroy the nerve cells in the heart that generate the base pulse rhythm.In that sense, it would be like police first wetting the ground, then using single-electrode prodding sticks to herd people. Instead of just zapping specific people, you'd get chains and groups that get zapped, via person-person contact. Some might die, some might just laugh it off. Very inefficient and unreliable; very dangerous. Definitely not what military needs/wants to use.

author: Fryguy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 08:52:15 am
content: I am aware of all that - just having fun here ! Do you know the movie "Spies like us" ?They already had this gun there and the 6-foot/cheeseburger thing in motion .However , we may see where it really goes eventually .It's difficult to ascertain what will happen next .I just really do love the concept of this thing and the loud bang it makes

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 10:00:07 am
content: Quote from: Fryguy on February 06, 2025, 08:52:15 amOf course!Quote from: Fryguy on February 06, 2025, 08:52:15 amAbsolutely – I'm all for remote-controlled and autonomous robots duking it out, too. I think it is good that people do this kind of stuff. If not just to see if it is possible, then for the sheer fun of it.I just wanted to make sure everyone knows this is not a "plasma bolt" type of thing, it is a "let's throw this thin wire to the target, then energize it with such high voltage and current that it becomes self-confining plasma (due to Lorentz force), and conducts that huge current pulse to the target" type of thing.While particle beam weaponry ("plasma bolt" type of thing)isbeing researched, and it too could generate such a plasma channel for high current pulses in atmosphere, kinetic energy delivery is just too darn precise and efficient for military purposes. And for disabling electronics and electric devices, why limit to current pulses, when you can use EM pulses instead? Idea being, the EM pulses induce/couple to the target device, causing localized voltage and current pulses that destroys the device. And you can use powerful antennae or even nuclear explosions to generate those pulses.

author: Fryguy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 10:33:57 am
content: EM pulses would be the thing to go for - but only the non-nuclear-bang type .In my opinion using a nuclear bomb just to fry electronics is like what we in germany call "mit Kanonen auf Spatzen schiessen" - which means using cannons to shoot tiny birds .

author: Fryguy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 10:50:47 am
content: Really ??Did anyone make a copy of that video ? I could not save it on my company laptop out here in the fieldI wanted to show this to some people . . . F*§&#=*#@+%ing yootoobe

author: oPossum
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 11:14:53 am
content: https://web.archive.org/web/20250206060335/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cse3pUxvecY

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 11:16:34 am
content: Quote from: Fryguy on February 06, 2025, 10:33:57 amJust pointing it out. I personally find neutron bombs much scarier –– they kill people by the neutron flux, but leave infrastructure relatively intact ––, and they've existed for decades now. Smallest were 200mm artillery rounds.

author: Fryguy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 04:43:42 pm
content: Ah hell , the link only gets me the video in 360p resolution - no switching to 1080 . . .

author: RAPo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 05:00:34 pm
content: There is a reupload by another guyhttps://youtu.be/G8LbFggQIDI?si=N7iW7ejoGSPyx5JK

author: Fryguy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2025, 05:07:05 pm
content: Yes , i found that one too , but still only 360 .3 guys reuploaded the video - all 360

author: Fryguy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2025, 03:46:57 pm
content: Found it again in 1080 !https://odysee.com/Firing-the-Lorentz-Plasma-Cannon-1080p:2

author: RAPo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 06:52:10 pm
content: There is a new video:https://youtu.be/lix-vr_AF38?si=juPIvAAwoVA04hNv

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2025, 08:22:49 am
content: Impressive as a construction.Impressive by the parts costs.Impressive show effects when in action.Pityful result; throwing a small stone would cause more damage.

author: racemaniac
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2025, 08:50:30 am
content: I love the reason why the original video was removed XD.We alle assumed there was some fuss about the cannon or it being dangerous or... And in the end it was just that he didn't ask permission to make videos at the location it was filmed and they were making a fuss about it XD.