The robots are coming.... - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: MathWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2025, 03:26:20 pm
content: I don't have time to watch it now, but it's starting to remind me of the backstory of the Matrix in the Animatrix.There's a lot of interesting law scenarios for what happens if one of these humaniod robots should happen to kill someone by accident or worse.Well I'm glad I've had lots of training fighting robots, cyborgs, etc, in video games.

author: SteveThackery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2025, 08:59:47 pm
content: Quote from: MathWizard on September 18, 2025, 03:26:20 pmWon't it be much the same legally as being killed by any other type of machine?

author: BrianHG
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2025, 11:20:21 pm
content: Quote from: SteveThackery on September 18, 2025, 08:59:47 pmThat sounds like the obvious legitimate path.However, the kind of money the suppliers of such humanoid robots will have may alter laws in their favor.Especially in the cases of hacking and military robots designed for the possibility of killing even if not at the beginning.

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2025, 08:45:04 am
content: we are Not there yet! robots are still immature children & AI can lie with straight text, requiring human fact-checking.Chinese have mass produced them but most are just expensive robotic pets even the humanoid types still requiring a human with a remote control.see my post in the Chinese robotic Olympicshttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/robotic-olympics/msg6018661/#msg6018661you will see the humans running around behind the scenes with what looks like remote controls.are we witnessing an AI investment bubble?

author: kite31
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2025, 09:16:21 am
content: I am told by a family member who recently visited China that they have serving robots in hotels. You order room service. The kitchen places your order on a robotic trolley and tells it floor and room. The robot then negotiates its way to a lift without crashing, selects the floor via wireless communication with the lift, arrives at your door and, I do not recall how it lets you know it is there but the process is successful. After removing your order you touch a button and the server returns to the kitchen.All of this works on today's basic technologies for communication and navigation. I have not heard of it locally. I wonder whether humanoid robots are the optimal target for robotics.

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2025, 02:35:47 pm
content: The real world is AI hard. For anything which can be automized it usually makes more sense to have a purpose build robot. You don't need a robot to push a room service trolley when you can just motorize the trolley.We settle for the human body, because it comes with true intelligence.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2025, 04:24:51 pm
content: Yes, I think the idea is to offer something that can be an almost drop-in replacement for human workers rather than a solution that can replace them with more specialized solutions.There's a clear corporate obsession with getting rid of human workers, it's nothing new, but the classic specialized robots have already been used to this end, and it's probably not enough.With those "human-like" robots, they are promising an allegedly versatile solution to this "problem", not requiring any specific/custom design (unlike specialized robots), only some training of machine learning.

author: Marco
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2025, 06:21:48 pm
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on September 19, 2025, 04:24:51 pmPlease ignore the room full of PhDs who spend 6 months making the training barely work for a couple specific cases.More things can be automated, but it's nothing like instructing a human. With the time necessary to make it work, you can also specialize the robotics a bit.

author: BrianHG
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2025, 10:42:50 pm
content: Quote from: kite31 on September 19, 2025, 09:16:21 amThink of this as Japan's first analog HDTV distribution system. It worked. It blew SDTV out of the water, but the USA didn't do anything with it until an all digital HDTV format came into existence. The USA wont touch such robotics until a smart generic AI goes the distance, analogous to the improved digital HDTV capabilities.

author: temperance
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2025, 01:07:28 am
content: QuoteHere in Belgium we have a restaurant with a serving robot.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2025, 01:10:10 am
content: It's the population aging thing, that I feel has a good fit, for everyday tasks, and memory difficulties, such as mistakes like leaving the tea kettle boiling away, while old person goes elsewhere.Minor things like cleaning the dog dish (if it's a real, meat and water creature, not a dogbot.)Government subsidized, available to all. (I'm practicing my prediction skills,lol).Killing ? Maiming ? Yeah,...as if governments are on top of those situations right now. Would we notice the extra deterioration ?Perhaps, though, such tragic robot involved events might turn out to be rare ?

author: Simmed
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2025, 01:15:07 am
content: "coldfusion" YT channelmmm nope

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2025, 07:33:04 am
content: we have vending machines & elevators that we trust are safe because there moving mechanical parts are behind barriers.but a humanoid robot is a machine moving in a shared space with humans. just a suggestion, it may need a big red emergency stop button on its head or back if it has a malfunction or misbehaving as in throwing a robotic tantrum.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2025, 07:50:46 am
content: ... or maybe a very clear, very visible target just in case:"SHOOT HERE"

author: NE666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2025, 08:07:18 am
content: Quote from: RJSV on September 20, 2025, 01:10:10 amIt would be far cheaper, and a better outcome for all concerned, if governments put more serious effort into educating and incentivizing the populous on the importance of 'good mechanical sympathy' when it comes to their own bodies.On average, a lot less social care would be required if large sections of that society stopped stuffing themselves with crap, smoking, drinking to excess and spending far too long sat on their ass each day.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2025, 05:55:42 pm
content: Quote from: NE666 on September 20, 2025, 08:07:18 amLike me sitting here in front of my computah ...

author: UnijunctionTransistor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 20, 2025, 06:13:35 pm
content: Quote from: kite31 on September 19, 2025, 09:16:21 amHow many A/hrs does one tip the robot?I know, another lame attempt at humor.

author: BrianHG
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2025, 01:02:01 am
content: Quote from: UnijunctionTransistor on September 20, 2025, 06:13:35 pmMaybe that should have read W/hrs, or Watts?Otherwise I would have to answer that it depends on the robot's battery voltage...

author: UnijunctionTransistor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2025, 03:17:58 pm
content: Or, if one is really pedantic, would tip the robot in joules.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2025, 03:28:05 pm
content: Aint none of yous studied history? Its well documented the best reward for robots are atomic thunderbusters