Mexico Makes Software & Hardware Modification Illegal (including Linux) - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 06:00:33 am
content: If it is as black and white as that, then It's pretty clear the members of the Mexican government have sold out - with absolutely no understanding of what such laws would mean. I can see how a case might have been made to "safeguard" equipment from "hacks", but the legislation appears to have been written so casually that genuine and reasonable practices have, for the most part, been ignored.This is an (extreme) example of the kind of playing field that Louis Rossmann has been challenging - and is encouraging others to challenge - with his participation in what has been called the Right To Repair "movement". Those in power want to keep control of everything, including a customer's choices... and that is rarely beneficial to customers as a whole.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 06:04:29 am
content: I still hope this is fake news, or maybe just something lost in translation because the author of the video says he was using Google translate.Anybody from Mexico, or with good Spanish, is this really happening?

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 06:10:05 am
content: ...sooo... yeah... I'm not an expert on Mexican politics, but, maybe they shouldn't outsource writing their legislature to random passerbys.

author: jordi
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 06:38:08 am
content: I'm from Mexico. I grew up in the border. Yes, it is true so far, basically allows for possible censorship of any digital content (like YouTube, in opinion are for those criticizing the government or gov friends), and makes it illegal to modify/repair software and hardware, even if you own it and paid for it. The last one if I read correctly is an attempt to increase the country appealing to foresight companies. This is the aftermath of the new treaty between Canada, USA, and Mexico. Also, there is something going on between US & Mex president, because both are in the campaign. It is very fishy.The good side is that is almost impossible to implement it. It would require to arrest almost all the population because income is low and almost everybody uses freedom software -if you know what I mean- and cheap, repaired/modified electronics (especially to watch free tv and refurbished smartphones).

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 06:53:01 am
content: Much of what has been reportedly done here is what the Australian government has been trying to get done for many years now.The infamous saying:https://www.newscientist.com/article/2140747-laws-of-mathematics-dont-apply-here-says-australian-pm/

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 07:10:47 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 08, 2020, 06:53:01 amLOLMaybe the government should just ban some of the laws of physics and thermodynamics, think of all the money people could save with those out of the way!

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 12:19:04 pm
content: Someone from another site found a link to the law, saying there's nothing there to forbid, for example, a Linux install over a former Win10. This is the text:http://www.diputados.gob.mx/LeyesBiblio/pdf/LFPPI_010720.pdfLATER EDIT:My bad for not checking myself before reposting the pdf link, sorry.The video description is linking to this webpage:https://www.xataka.com.mx/legislacion-y-derechos/reparar-tu-smartphone-instalarle-rom-sera-delito-mexico-nueva-ley-que-proteje-candados-digitales-explicadaand the webpage is linking to a pdf text of the law that returns err 404, but apparently has a different number than the one about industrial IP and patents:http://www.diputados.gob.mx/LeyesBiblio/pdf/122_240120.pdf

author: joseph nicholas
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 02:06:59 pm
content: Mexico is a country of nail salons and pawnshops. This law is just a formality. Enforcement is a different story.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 03:29:52 pm
content: While it is a formality, you can't have a legal business then... At least not of a size enough to be visible.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 04:04:52 pm
content: If I understand correctly, this all comes from the new Copyright law, which basically mimicks that of the US, and the "you can't fix your own gear" or "you can't install another OS" due to it seems to essentially be fake news.https://www.contxto.com/en/mexico/reforms-copyright-law-mexico/I didn't study it carefully though. Do not hesitate to point out factual points in this new law that would lead to what's being claimed here.

author: vodka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 04:25:33 pm
content: TQuote from: RoGeorge on July 08, 2020, 12:19:04 pmThis document is about a law of Industrial Property . On any site said that is banned to install linux o fixing PC , the information is a brazen FAKE.Now i quoted the Tome 7 and some their articles:Quote

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 06:32:18 pm
content: I attempted to read the document.Reading a dense legal document is as much fun as getting a root canal without anesthesia.Therefore I focused solely on chapter V, which deals essentially with IC layout intellectual property.Not easy, even reading thru a few pages, the legalese gave me a severe headache.What I can gather from it, its intended function is to protect the intellectual property of the actual silicon layout within an IC. In other words, if you are planning to copy an IC (i.e the 555), then you have to develop your own, and not simply copy the masks and layers from an established vendor.I don't see anything wrong with that. At least not with that chapter.And no, I can't continue. It is too painful to scrutinize the remaining document.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 07:07:46 pm
content: It's strange that there is no DRM mention, maybe the websites are talking about other law, not the one from the pdf link.LATER EDIT:My bad for not checking myself before reposting the pdf link, sorry.The video description is linking to this webpage:https://www.xataka.com.mx/legislacion-y-derechos/reparar-tu-smartphone-instalarle-rom-sera-delito-mexico-nueva-ley-que-proteje-candados-digitales-explicadaand the webpage is linking to a pdf text of the law that returns err 404, but apparently has a different number than the one about industrial IP and patents, the document about DRM and repair is linked as:http://www.diputados.gob.mx/LeyesBiblio/pdf/122_240120.pdf

author: vodka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 08, 2020, 07:50:48 pm
content: Quote from: RoGeorge on July 08, 2020, 07:07:46 pmThis seems the lawhttps://www.dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5596012&fecha=01/07/2020