PACE MBT360-Anyone using one? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: djsb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 03:41:42 pm
content: I have a PACE MBT350 with the blue collared intelliheat handpieces (desoldering,tweezers and soldering iron) but it uses 110v mains which I use with a 240V to 110V transformer. I'm looking for an excuse to buy the MBT360 system in a couple of years time. Has anyone used one or actually owns one of these systems, and can they work with existing intelliheat handpieces? Thanks.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2025, 06:26:29 pm
content: Quote from: djsb on March 27, 2025, 03:41:42 pmThe MTB360 has two AccuDrive ports and one Sensatemp. It is not compatible with Intelliheat handpieces. I don't have it, but I do have AccuDrive and Sensatemp systems. They're fine, but I doubt you want to junk all of your Intelliheat stuff.

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2025, 06:34:57 am
content: There's the MBT450 as well now. Main differences are GUI, integrated visifilter and hot air. Same sensatemp and accudrive channels.

author: djsb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2025, 08:08:40 am
content: It's a shame that neither will support my existing intelliheat handpieces? Maybe PACE should consider providing an OFFICIAL adaptor for customers with intelliheat tools?

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2025, 10:55:28 am
content: Most IntelliHeat handpieces can be converted to SensaTemp by wiring on a different plug or building an adapter.IntelliHeat really is just the SensaTemp and HeatWise systems combined into one plug.If a SensaTemp version of the handpiece in question exists, then even the IntelliHeat versions are electrically “SensaTemp under the hood” and can be adapted. This should be all of the IntelliHeat handpieces except for the ones that use cartridge heaters (TD-100, TD-100A, and MT-100, IIRC).Somewhere on the forum there are the pinouts one could use to make an adapter or rewire the cable with a new plug.(The plugs are Amphenol C091B series.)

author: asis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2025, 02:04:23 pm
content: If Accudrive is a combination of RTD-100 and heater, then it is easily adapted.If this cartridge contains a K-type temperature sensor, then you need to study the diagram - how to adapt it.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/pace-intelliheat-pinout-for-6-to-8-pin-adaptor/

author: Hydrawerk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2025, 03:49:31 pm
content: Quote from: Shock on March 29, 2025, 06:34:57 amIt is not released so nobody can buy the PACE MBT450 today!Although...https://paceworldwide.com/news/pace-product-announcements-august-2020QuoteIt should have been be released in 2021, but it was not!Even the MBT 450 photo is not available on manufacturer's website.

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2025, 06:29:07 am
content: If you are buying in two years who knows there may be even more options. Here is the datasheet, it says summer 2025.https://paceworldwide.com/sites/default/files/2025-03/MBT450%20Datasheet%202025.pdfI always wanted from the start to run the older handpieces in perpetuity so seems counter intuitive to retire the MBT350 station just to squeeze it's tools onto an MBT360/450. I've been considering a second MBT350 (already have a couple of accudrive stations).

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2025, 08:25:53 am
content: Quote from: asis on March 29, 2025, 02:04:23 pmAccordijf to other posts on the forum, AccuDrive is a K thermocouple.SensaTemp (and the SensaTemp half of IntelliHeat) is PT100.I don’t know what HeatWise (and HeatWise half of IntelliHeat) uses.

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2025, 02:48:41 am
content: Heatwise and Tempwise (digital) as far as I recall were the set temp stations that use interchange resistor plugs for temp setting. It's basically a temp adjustable station but with the features of a set temp station in one.The handpiece was the TC100 and it takes 1124 series tips which as far as I'm aware are the same that work in the Intelliheats TD100 handpiece.Edit:For those interested there was some more technical discussion of Intelliheat and Sensatemp in this thread that Tooki participated in.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/pace-intelliheat-pinout-for-6-to-8-pin-adaptor/

author: asis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2025, 04:43:13 am
content: Hi,The entire PACE product line, with all the variety of products, is based on proven technologies.Well, okay.MBT450 - looks stylish, easy to change VisiFilter, touch screen, TF added for versatility.And, in essence, SensaTemp, IntelliHeat, AccuDrive are present.By the way, AccuDrive (thermocouple K) probably came from ST325/350, ST450, TF1800, TF2800, TF1500 - TF3000, built using OP177G Analog Devices.Then, when the production of heating cartridges was mastered, AccuDrive organically fit into the creation of a whole line of small-sized and convenient tools.-I, somehow, do not suffer much.PRC2k does its job.I redesigned the AUX channels for control via opto triacs (~220V), now, in fact, I have six controlled channels, and also installed a Chinese vacuum pump on the PULSE HEAT channel, supplementing the circuit with a network transformer.Thus, I expanded the PIK VAK function, creating the vacuum/pressure I need in a wide range of values.Well, if I get AccuDrive tools, I will adapt them to the ST325.I think this is real.