HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2025, 11:13:06 am
content: Firmware update bricks HP printers, makes them unable to use HP cartridges -https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/03/firmware-update-bricks-hp-printers-makes-them-unable-to-use-hp-cartridges/Affected printers: LaserJet 200 SeriesI wonder if those printers are so secure now that they won't print at all, or if HP sells counterfeit toner.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2025, 11:55:29 am
content: When a company focuses on annoying its customers, it can't be surprised when things go according to plan.

author: krish2487
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2025, 12:14:22 pm
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 11, 2025, 11:55:29 amDont be ridiculous.. no one at HP uses HP printers...

author: Conrad Hoffman
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 03:25:54 am
content: No HP computer equipment has darkened my doorstep in many years. Expensive tri-color ink cartridges, bloatware that never worked quite right and abandoning products with every major OS change. Learned my lesson and never again.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 03:44:38 am
content: people in the far future will start advanced mental training schools so they can memorize digital documents in order to prevent the re-emergence of printers after the great collapse. The great collapse occurred shortly after the HP and Altium merger that resulted in genesis of Haltium, also known as the AP corporation.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 04:44:52 am
content: Quote from: Conrad Hoffman on March 12, 2025, 03:25:54 amTo be fair, their commercial PCs and enterprise servers/equipment are pretty rock solid, and you'll often find them installed in high-security environments (among other trusted brands).But yes, their consumer stuff is absolute trash.Although I did discover a "quirk" with their DL-380P servers. If you install an I/O card in the PCIe slot, it ramps some of the fan speeds up to a constant ~46%. Not only does it increase overall noise, but the pitch at that specific speed is very annoying if the servers are installed in anything other than a proper server room. I don't know if this is limited to non-HP expansion cards, or just ones where it can't directly monitor the card temperature, but I do wonder if they chose that specific value on purpose just to annoy the customer (instead of something like 50%, since it's all PWM anyway).

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 09:38:15 am
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on March 12, 2025, 03:44:38 amLike the A&P (US supermarket chain)?Heh; reminds me of the electronics megastore chain, Fry's, in the SF Bay Area, which grew out of a grocery chain in the Southwest.The first thing you saw when you came in was a huge display of food, mostly junk food favored by computer nerds.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2025, 10:28:19 pm
content: QuoteJoke:"Security updates"To prevent a third party cartridge from being installed for HP's own security."regulatory requirement update"To require ALL HP printers to only use HP cartridges and no other cartridge."Intellectual Property Protection(IPP)"To protect our property.Our property not yours.“general improvements and bug fixes,"To ensure they'll keep on making money over their over priced cartridges which will bean improvement for HP and will class any printer firmware allowing the use of third partycartridges as a bug that has to be fixed by this firmware update.I have prevented my HP printers long ago from any internet access to try and prevent fromit happening since 2016 when they tried this out and ended up reverting.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2025, 06:57:07 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on March 12, 2025, 09:38:15 amA&P is a great store and should not be tarnished by Haltium