Dave's "Confrontation" with "John Romberg" - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Post_Apocalyptic_Inventor
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2014, 03:55:33 pm
content: Hey there guys!I guess most of you have watched the latest EEV-Blog episode (#616) already. As you might have noticed, Dave found himself involved into an unnecessary argument, which was caused by the comment of a user, who was complaining about the microphone-series that Dave is doing in corporation with Doug Ford. I hesitated to involve myself in that argument because I didn't want to cause any further havoc in the comment section. The reason why I open this thread here is mainly because I wanted to thank Doug for presenting his knowledge on Youtube. I hope that Doug won't bother about those people who openly show their ingratitude towards his offer of free knowledge. Even if the guy who originally complained about the microphone series didn't really mean to hurt anyone, he still made the impression that he thinks that he is somehow "entitled" and that Dave "owes" him new videos that are particularly interesting for him personally. As a content producer myself I'm much more annoyed by those people however who involve them self in these kinds of "youtube comment discussions", who always want to get the last word and who keep bothering the content producer with their opinions on everything. If I were Dave I would either not react to them, or censor their comments, rather than argue with them. But that's not my decision to make.The whole discussion is so pointless, that I don't want to go on about the details. But there is one thing however that I want Doug Ford to know, and I hope that most of you think the same:Back in the day, when I was a child (before the days of the internet) the only way for me to receive knowledge about electronics, physics, math or anything else, were books which I had to buy from my own money. These books were normally not suited for people with little knowledge about the topic and you basically had to buy the book before you even knew what was inside. You had to go by the title of the books, which where oftentimes deceiving, because the authors wanted to sell more copies. Neither my parents, nor anyone else I knew had any real knowledge about electronics and I had to find out everything myself. The physics classes I later attended in school weren't much help either, because the teacher only knew the very basics about electronics and was an awful person to talk to. Now many years later, I know one or two things about electrical engineering due to years of studying, reading books and experimenting.... And I guess this is maybe the story of many people.Now just imagine, how my early days, (and those of many other people) would have been, if something like the EEV-Blog would have existed already. First and foremost tutorial videos and such videos who explain the very basics about certain fields and applications(like the microphone-series) would have been a huge help for me. They would have helped me, where parents and teachers couldn't.And now look at our situation of today: There seems to be such a big variety of information everywhere, that some take it for granted. They casually leave their opinions and negative feedback everywhere they can, even when there is no reason for it. They even feel free to criticize those on a personal level, who offer their knowledge publicly , even though they don't know them and don't contribute anything them self.In addition I want to say something about the value of the videos that Dave has made together with Doug:Some people may think that they don't need to listen and that they can obtain that knowledge any day by reading the Wikipedia article. Believe me: That assumption is wrong. Even if you would read professional books on the topic you would find, that they would either be stuffed with complicated mathematical derivations and you wouldn't understand a word, or the information would be very general. You would for example most probably not find a good overview over the different kinds of microphones that exist, nor would you get any information on how actual microphones are constructed in the industry today. Most probably the book would either concentrate on acoustics, or on amplifiers, or on noise reduction (and the list goes on), but it would hardly bundle all the important information, which goes into microphone design on a few pages. It is generally speaking, very hard to find good books on practical electrical engineering. There might be a lot of information out in the web, but a lot of it us unreliable. There is some information which you can only obtain, by doing it all your self or listening to an actual engineer (like Doug) who has all the experience.Therefore I say: Thank you very much Doug and Dave for making these videos and don't listen to those who only criticize without thinking about the demotivating nature of their comments.

author: max666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2014, 04:47:06 pm
content: I agree, there is no need to complain. No one asked you and you don't have the right to tell Dave what videos he's allowed to do, or not.Personally I've only watched the first vid in the microphones series and then dropped of, and I'm not going to watch the others (at least for now). But like you said, it's good that the information is there and everyone who is interested can watch it. But to complain about what free stuff you should get is just rude.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2014, 05:07:54 pm
content: QuoteUnfortunately, we have tons of such people.

author: Thilo78
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2014, 05:14:56 pm
content: Quote from: Post_Apocalyptic_Inventor on May 16, 2014, 03:55:33 pmFull ACK from my side.I wish, back when I was 10 or 12 years old, I had the tools of today, including YouTube, forums and electronic makers' magazines.One of the greatest benefits of today is the free access to a wide array of knowledge.And the best thing: You don't have to take what you get, you can choose for yourself.Videos about microphone operations may not be what I'm looking for, but they are worthwhile and there's a lot of experience transferred between the lines.For that I'm very grateful.Keep up the great work, Dave!And keep your guests like Doug Ford coming.It's both entertaining and informative at the same time and I love it!Greetings from GermanyThilo

author: calexanian
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2014, 05:37:05 pm
content: Thanks to Dave and thanks to Doug.To you people complaining out there. If there is a video with a subject you don't like or care about, simply don't watch it! Personally I enjoyed this series.

author: jaxbird
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2014, 05:41:04 pm
content: I very much enjoyed this series, nothing better than an experienced designer like Doug explaining the complexities involvedOk, Dave was a bit trigger happy on calling audiophool in the first couple of episodes. But that subsided quickly.Big thanks to Doug and Dave.

author: SirNick
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2014, 06:48:30 pm
content: Haven't watched it yet (I'm still in the 300s area), but I did watch the one where the engineer did a break-down of his own PA amplifier for use on public transportation. As someone with a particular interest in audio electronics, that was a treasure trove of info. I have no doubt this microphone series will be fascinating to me, as was the DIY lab PSU series. (Another project on the back burner, so very relevant to my interests.)As real-life people, it can be difficult to shrug off negative feedback sometimes. I hope Dave and ALL his guests are able to take actual constructive comments into consideration, and let all the rest fade into noise.As a content consumer, I don't get all I want from his videos either. That's kinda how it goes... same story as the books. There's an intended audience for everything, and sometimes what you want to know isn't out there for the taking. I figure the best way to deal with that is to keep learning what I want to know myself, and then maybe some day fill in the gaps with my own video blog. Chances are it won't completely end the conversation either, and someone else will have to take up the slack. And so on. I consider that one of the best things about the Internet (right up there with LOL Cats and free porn).