[SOLVED]R&S cmu200 HDD image file wanted. - Page 1
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author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 21, 2021, 02:22:57 pm
content: Hello. I have cmu200 with corrupted HDD drive. It is full of bad sectors. At startup I get error message on picture. Can someone upload disk image or point me where to find instalation files for fresh install. I made a copy of disk and save 97% of files.Sebastijan.

author: ve7xen
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 21, 2021, 07:51:25 pm
content: I have some files (the installers) athttp://gotroot.ca/cmu200/. If you can put them on a PCMCIA/CF card and boot into the built-in upgrader and install them, you should be able to restore all the applications this way, I think. I don't have an easy way to get a disk image for you at the moment.

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 21, 2021, 11:27:57 pm
content: Can you upload your files so that we can compare them against the files in the installers? Perhaps the solution is to repair the damaged files, preferably on a clone HDD.

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 10:01:10 am
content: Hello.I uploaded files that I can manage to copy from HDD.When I got this cmu system halt's on rohde & schwarz welcome screen. When I clone HDD and repair it with scandisc I came to error on picture. I don't know if this is SW or HW error. So idea is to copy image file if somebody will share with me.I ordered PCMCIA to CF adapter for upgrade, but it will arrive in next week.My files:https://www.mediafire.com/file/6hfzl76u0tstoia/Cmu_back.rar/fileP.S. Anyone know why model and serial number is not listed? Or it comes later in boot sequence?

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 06:23:38 pm
content: How did you clone the drive? Ideally you would use a tool such as ddrescue or HDDSuperClone. These tools keep a log of unreadable sectors, and you can then use this log to determine which files were affected. Alternatively you could fill each bad sector with a test pattern (eg BAD!BAD!...) and then search for this pattern in your recovered files.

author: samofab
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 08:27:01 pm
content: I have CRTU and when I got it I made a copy of the disk using clonezilla. And I have the same flag as OP. PM me if you think CRTU image helps. AFAIK DOS software is the same for CMU200 and CRTU.

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 09:10:25 pm
content: have made clone with hddrawcopy SW. Cmu now boot every time same and stops (not hang) on stuc file. I was check connection of flat cable and looks fine.

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 09:44:07 pm
content: AFAICT, stuc.cpp is a C++ source file. It does not exist in your file dump, but it is referenced in file "CMU\BIN_V5.00\BASE\FSW\1\CMUDRV.DL0".

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 10:00:56 pm
content: I think that "BaseDiscoverOptionsBegin" mean that system checking installed HW. But in my case I don't get serial and model number. So where is this data stored?"feldent" = NULL this in german mean "field".I have ni idea with c++ can you tell me what this stuc file is lookin for.

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 10:09:07 pm
content: Ha.I open this file with notepad and is full of crap. Is it better way to open this CMUDRV.DL0 file.

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 10:14:58 pm
content: Open it with a hex editor, eg HxD (freeware).https://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/Code:Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F001ED410 3D 20 4E 55 4C 4C 00 2E 2E 5C 2E 2E 5C 73 72 63 = NULL...\..\src001ED420 5C 73 74 75 63 2E 63 70 70 00 46 65 49 64 65 6E \stuc.cpp.FeIden001ED430 74 20 21 3D 20 4E 55 4C 4C 00 2E 2E 5C 2E 2E 5C t != NULL...\..\

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 10:15:30 pm
content: This may be interestedsrc\stuc.cpp stu_call_write_serial_number() this pointer corrupted %lu stu_call_write_serial_number(src\stuc.cpp DigIdent != NULL ..\..\src\stuc.cpp RefIdent != NULL ..\..\src\stuc.cpp FeIdent != NULL ..\..\src\stuc.cpp stu_call_write_serial_number

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 10:22:04 pm
content: So it looks like it is related with SN. But where is this data stored? Fmr, DIG module some other module...

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 10:31:10 pm
content: Have you executed the self test? ISTM that the boot process involves the identification of each of the installed PCBs/modules. AFAICT, each module has an EEPROM. Maybe the EEPROM on the RF Frontend has a problem???http://cdn.rohde-schwarz.com/pws/dl_downloads/dl_common_library/dl_news_from_rs/167/167_CMU200selftest.pdfQuoteQuoteQuote

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 10:40:58 pm
content: I think that this stuc file create a log file in "stuc.cpp C:\INTERNAL\LOG\TOOLS \*.Y00". But files are date related. So I must correct date in bios and reboot cmu. Anyway I am going to sleep. Cmu must wait.No I did not do this test, Only acesseble sw is version installer.

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 10:58:13 pm
content: I expect that the problem is in this module:https://www.ebay.com/itm/324475394824

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2021, 11:14:09 pm
content: Quote from: eurgenca on October 23, 2021, 10:00:56 pmFE Ident -> Front End Identification

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 07:19:05 am
content: Fzabkar you are the man.I was so frustrated with bad sectors on HDD, that didn't think out of the box. Now I remember that fan on this module is not spinning... I thought that is maybe temp. controlled.

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 07:22:17 am
content: Definitely will be the first thing that I will pulled out and look inside. I hope is some power related problem.

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 04:32:58 pm
content: Oh god what I bought.First I want to check connection between frontend and MB. WTF, where is flat cable?O.k. I found suitable cable and restore connection. Power up cmu and booting pass through stuc error. Serial and model number is showing.YES and thenandO.k. I boot to version manager and select options:-clear nvram-flash when board is changedSame errors.Then I was again boot to version manager and install older SW.It looks o.k. Booting finish and all looks good.After that I again change SW version to 5.00 and same errors appear. So What is this "overlay.c" related.Ok, I was again downgrade version to 4.0 and looks all o.k.I run self tests and all pass exept RF loop. (internal and external).It is look like RF1 and RF2 ports are busted. But let this for later.What do you think is to do. Try to upgrade to latest ver. or I leave 4.0.

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 06:16:53 pm
content: It doesn't help me, but I found this in BIN_V5.00\BASE\BSW\EXE\BASE.EXE:Code:Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F00592BC0 2E 5C 2E 2E 5C 2E 2E 5C 6F 73 2E 30 33 31 5C 63 .\..\..\os.031\c00592BD0 5F 73 6F 75 72 63 65 5C 6F 76 65 72 6C 61 79 2E _source\overlay.00592BE0 63 00 4F 76 65 72 6C 61 79 20 2D 20 49 6E 69 74 c.Overlay - Init00592BF0 00 4F 76 65 72 6C 61 79 20 2D 20 49 6E 73 74 61 .Overlay - Insta00592C00 6C 6C 00 4F 76 65 72 6C 61 79 20 2D 20 52 65 6D ll.Overlay - Rem00592C10 6F 76 65 00 4F 76 65 72 6C 61 79 20 2D 20 4C 6F ove.Overlay - Lo00592C20 61 64 44 6C 6C 00 5C 00 4F 75 74 20 6F 66 20 76 adDll.\.Out of v00592C30 69 72 74 75 61 6C 20 6D 65 6D 6F 72 79 2E 20 20 irtual memory.... and I see the same thing in BIN_V4.10\BASE\BSW\EXE\BASE.EXE.Code:Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F005881C0 2E 2E 5C 2E 2E 5C 2E 2E 5C 2E 2E 5C 6F 73 2E 30 ..\..\..\..\os.0005881D0 33 31 5C 63 5F 73 6F 75 72 63 65 5C 6F 76 65 72 31\c_source\over005881E0 6C 61 79 2E 63 00 4F 76 65 72 6C 61 79 20 2D 20 lay.c.Overlay -005881F0 49 6E 69 74 00 4F 76 65 72 6C 61 79 20 2D 20 49 Init.Overlay - I00588200 6E 73 74 61 6C 6C 00 4F 76 65 72 6C 61 79 20 2D nstall.Overlay -00588210 20 52 65 6D 6F 76 65 00 4F 76 65 72 6C 61 79 20 Remove.Overlay00588220 2D 20 4C 6F 61 64 44 6C 6C 00 5C 00 4F 75 74 20 - LoadDll.\.Out00588230 6F 66 20 76 69 72 74 75 61 6C 20 6D 65 6D 6F 72 of virtual memor00588240 79 2E 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 y.According to the service manual, there is a "Lithium battery in FRONT MODULE". I expect that this would provide power for the non-volatile RAM."GE 3.0V 230MAH LI-MNO2 LITHIUM BATTERY CR2032""EB 3.6V 1.00AH LI-SOCL2 LITHIUM THIONYL CHLORIDE BATTERY"Edit:ISTM that the CMU200 is unable to load one if its DLL files. To this end I have listed all the DLLs for the two firmware versions.Do you have a log file for your Clonezilla session?

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 08:23:21 pm
content: Hi.No I don't have a log file, but I have original HDD and I have one IDE SSD disk (8Gb). I can try to make clone with Clonezilla to this disk.Your plan is to see on which file bad sectors are affected. Am I wright?

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 08:34:25 pm
content: I confess that I'm only guessing as to the real cause of your problems.I would suggest that HDDSuperClone is a better tool than Clonezilla. It can save a log file and fill bad sectors with a chosen pattern. It has a LiveCD and a GUI.In any case, if the problem is a version 5.0 DLL file, then I would expect that a firmware update should fix this. ICBW, though.

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 08:54:04 pm
content: What does "out of virtual memory"mean.That LoadDll cannot be loaded because is corrupted or really not enough memory. If I remember correct in DOS for virtual (extended) memory was himem.sysI will check autoexec.bat and config.sys under both versions.

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 09:39:00 pm
content: When I think of virtual memory, I think of swap space on a hard drive.DOS used extended or expanded memory to access memory above the 1MB limit. Himem.sys was able to access the first 64KB memory segment above 1MB, IIRC.

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 09:49:39 pm
content: Yes I agree. This I think it could be "virtual memory", other thing in DOS I remember is smartdrv or something but this is for disk cache. So how you create swap space on a hard drive in DOS?

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 09:58:13 pm
content: I don't really understand how virtual memory is implemented in this device, or in DOS. To me, swap space only makes sense in a multi-tasking OS. I'm confused. Sorry.Edit:Maybe the device runs a DOS application which needs to store an amount of data which exceeds the available RAM, so it then stores it in a temporary file on the hard drive. This temporary file could be the "virtual memory".

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 10:23:32 pm
content: This is easy to check, Tomorrow I add another memory module and will see.

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2021, 10:28:13 pm
content: Pay attention to the service manual. There are some caveats when adding memory modules.

author: Mark19960
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2021, 03:26:41 am
content: There are a couple of versions of the CMU200 that I know about.One has USB and the other does not.Potential issue? Wrong image for the hardware?Quote from: ve7xen on October 21, 2021, 07:51:25 pmI used to have this bookmarked but it's a 404 these days.

author: fzabkar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2021, 04:02:23 am
content: Quote from: Mark19960 on October 25, 2021, 03:26:41 amIt works for me.

author: Mark19960
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 25, 2021, 04:07:09 am
content: Quote from: fzabkar on October 25, 2021, 04:02:23 amJUST dawned on me. Chrome is forcing HTTP -> HTTPS....HTTPS 404s.Sorry for the noise.

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2021, 02:43:34 pm
content: Hello.Finally received PCMCIA to CF adapter and made update with no problem. Stuc error disappear so clearly was problem with corrupted files. Now CMU boots with no problem and pass all tests except RF tests.I will open new thread, because SW problems are solved now. Fzabkar thanks for your time and help.Seba.

author: Bravo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2022, 06:11:56 am
content: If you have a PC or laptop without Norton or maybe other antivirus, the installer files downloadable with being 404'd.

author: Bravo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2022, 06:54:18 am
content: ..................downloadable without being 404'd.

author: Bravo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2022, 07:08:10 am
content: HI,This off topic a bit. I am trying to enable some options.I downloaded most of the files from gotroot.ca/cmu200/ using a laptop with no antivirus on it.I am intending to use the cmuopts.py to enable the AMPS software. Next to where the serial No is entered,it appears to require a number after the / What is this number & where would I find it ?Regards,Gary

author: ve7xen
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2022, 05:35:12 pm
content: Quote from: Bravo on March 17, 2022, 07:08:10 amI've updated the web server configuration, so the files are accessible over HTTPS now, as some browsers / search engines will detect the server supports HTTPS and assume it serves the same content over that protocol, which would previously lead to 404s since the files were only available over HTTP. The two protocols are now served the same way, so this should be fixed.A couple people have reported to me that the serial number their box reports / has written on it does not include the /123 part. Try /002 first. If that doesn't work, you'll need to run the 'System Identity' task and then get the serial number from c:\identity.dat. No idea why some boxes don't have this part on the reported S/N.

author: Bravo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2022, 09:09:57 am
content: Hi ve7xen,Thanks for your help. My son is a software engineer. He said he will try & run the py script on Linux for me, because Windows 7 kept not enabling the Crypto file, despite a major effort by him. He said it should be no problem on Linux.

author: ve7xen
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2022, 08:40:57 pm
content: I posted the script on repl.it, you can run it in an online interpreter there:https://replit.com/@ktims/SkeletalDelectableDwarfrabbit#main.pyJust click Run and wait.

author: Bravo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2022, 07:41:43 am
content: Hi 73 de VE7XEN,My son succeeded in running the py program & sent me the Key list. So the /002 worked & I was able to enable the AMPS option, but it looks like I need to down load software for it, as AMPS does not show in the list of functions. Is this software still available from R&S ? Thanks for your help.

author: ve7xen
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2022, 06:08:32 pm
content: IIRC The AMPS option is contained in IS1MV5.20.exe, you can find it in my archivehttp://gotroot.ca/cmu200/. If it's not that one, it's one of the others that are there.

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2022, 07:10:58 pm
content: Hello.Today I have time and was try to activate AMPS. First I was generate key's and activate option in setup menu. Then I was update SW "IS1MV5.20" and all was o.k.But when I was reboot CMU, AMPS option is working but option GSM mobile station was lost. So, am I working something wrong or one option disable other option?Ofcourse if I install GSM option AMPS is disabled.Is this normal?

author: eurgenca
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2022, 07:32:49 pm
content: Found pic on ebay so clearly is possible to have active this two option at same time. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

author: Bravo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2022, 04:42:18 am
content: Hi ve7xen,Thanks for your help. All went well after I realized that you have to run the .exe file to generate the upgrade file.I have ordered a B95 board from ebay. I will have to get cables for it I presume. Will this require additional software enabling ?

author: Bravo
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2022, 09:35:36 am
content: Hi eurgenca,After I added the new firmware for Base, Bluetooth, GSM & AMPS & waited for the long start up, AMPS was there & so was GSM & all the other things I had before.