Worthwhile solder sucker all-in-one? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2012, 10:04:45 pm
content: Cheapie thing:http://www.maplin.co.uk/electric-de-solder-pump-96859?c=maplin&utm_source=endeca&utm_medium=endeca_search&utm_campaign=N37CH&utm_content=De-soldering+ToolsI've often found it hard to remove large hybrid modules and transistors on large heatsinks. I've got a 55W Antex iron and a 35W Aoyue iron (rubbish), but no desoldering equipment apart from using a normal hand powered solder sucker and iron separately. Does combining the two make for a better device? I doubt temperature control is necessary for most desoldering work.

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2012, 09:12:42 am
content: if its anything like the manual ones, damn they get blocked often.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2012, 12:32:43 pm
content: You better get a hot air gun like the Atten 858D.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2012, 02:15:48 pm
content: It is an Zhongdi Model ZD-211. Zhongdi means you don't get complete crap, but you don't get first class quality either. And since it has a mains powered, unregulated heating element you have no real control over the temperature. And together with the manual pump you have limited suction capacity.I have seen them for something like 5 Euro in the past, and recently for something like 9 Euro. Which is probably what they are really worth (more close to the 5 Euro). For 5 or maybe even 9 Euro it might be fine to have one as a novelty item or emergency tool. But for 16 GBP (> 19 Euro)? I don't think so.http://www.china-zhongdi.com/images/products/dpwm01/zd-211.jpghttp://www.china-zhongdi.com/dpwm01.htm(showing the wrong image for the 211)

author: KD0CAC John
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2012, 02:32:03 pm
content: In almost any case there is never just one tool does it all .I bought a Metcal desoldering gun , very simple , uses shop air to make vacuum , making the gun smaller and no repair of vacuum pump .A hand held metal spring powered solder sucker is hard to beat for small jobs .Then having a stash of solder wick .To depopulate a hole board to add parts to inventory , use a plumbers hand torch , propane and tap board on bucket

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2012, 11:46:26 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 18, 2012, 12:32:43 pmI had an Aoyue 968 (that's the other iron, plus hot air.) It caught fire. Hot air heating element failed.Luckily all that was damaged was the element, so I was able to replace it, but I don't really trust it any more. Especially as the soldering iron also crashes occasionally and locks up, luckily it doesn't go full power but you have to reset it... now I know the purpose of the reset button!Anyone know of a powered, mains soldering iron that just accepts an air input? The 968 has a suction pump so I can use that to suck the solder. That would allow me to make a super cheap desoldering iron.

author: KD0CAC John
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2012, 03:48:31 pm
content: A link just to help ,http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/71/71481/c94415_metcal_stds-ds1_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ebay.com/itm/C94415-Metcal-STDS-DS1-Desoldering-Tool-w-STDC-003-Tip-MX-RM8E-Cable-/390474919551&h=470&w=591&sz=265&tbnid=sp9U28pHI0EOQM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=113&zoom=1&usg=__BjLb_cDoO-l7TRX96lA-Embi1Sc=&docid=cyGxzZpLCERR4M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AzLTUKvbG4S7qAGC5oDwDw&ved=0CJcBEPUBMAk&dur=1665

author: ptricks
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2012, 04:00:44 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on December 19, 2012, 11:46:26 pmYou could use one of the desoldering irons that has the bulb attachment and remove the bulb, connect your suction line instead.http://www.amazon.com/ECG-J-045-DS-Watt-Desoldering-Iron/dp/B00068IJSG

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2012, 06:23:41 pm
content: A little out of my budget range...

author: vtl
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2012, 06:40:36 am
content: Quote from: tom66 on December 17, 2012, 10:04:45 pmI've got something that looks exactly like that in the link, but in blue. I bought it for $12 off ebay. Worth having I guess, the thing is a bit hit and miss, certainly better than using a solder sucker + soldering iron. If you think you're able to just suck off all the solder in one hit you're sadly mistaken. Usually takes at least 2 shots on a pin and even then youll most likely need to clean the rest off with braid.I just think its a pain in the ass having to take it out of the cupboard and wait for the thing to heat up. I only bring it out if im desolding a big DIP device.

author: mianchen
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2012, 10:06:02 pm
content: I got mine (exactly same as photo) off eBay for £7. It work great for the first 10 hours or so until the tip/head broke.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2012, 10:18:29 pm
content: Can you find this item in the UK?http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062731It's a bit slow to heat up, but once it gets going it works a treat.I guess Tandy disappeared, right? Did they get taken over or absorbed, or are they just gone?

author: TorqueRanger
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2012, 09:31:47 am
content: I know it's not what you asked for but here is what I use and have no problem getting stuff done ...Solder sucker-It's pretty bighttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Soldering-Sucker-/320801379333?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab1409405Solder wick- Chemtronics 60-3-5 Solder-Wickhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Chemtronics-60-3-5-Soder-Wicks-ESD-Safe-Lead-Free-Desolder-Braid-/181048041657?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a274de0b9

author: FenderBender
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2012, 09:15:19 pm
content: I know you don't live in the US but RadioShack has a desoldering iron that is like $10USD. I don't know if there is an equivalent in the UK. But it works quite well. Can't complain.

author: Wartex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2012, 10:50:02 pm
content: Hakko 808. Everything else in the posts above is trash, trust me.