Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: DylanM
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 02:21:33 pm
content: I just snatched an apparently brand new Keithley 2200-20-5 power supply on eBay for $11 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/191410738692). I looked them up and apparently they cost around $1000 RRP. I don't see anything sketchy about the eBay ad or seller - they've sold about 15000 products with 99% positive feedback. Did I just get an awesome bargain or is there something I'm missing?There's still a couple left by the way.

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 02:31:49 pm
content: Certainly a bargain. And if it was a scam, you just lost the full amount of AU$ 11.14. Most people are able to recover from that

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 02:48:43 pm
content: All gone. What's the bets they will not honour the sale and claim the dp was in the wrong place?

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 02:51:46 pm
content: They do world wide postage, what can I possibly lose?

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 02:54:44 pm
content: Quote from: Towger on November 12, 2014, 02:48:43 pmI think so, but......I have taken one. Just in case...Thanks Dylan.(Too good to be true).

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 02:55:36 pm
content: I have taken 1 too,Thanks Dylan.I see there are no other Keithley items for sale by this seller, maybe some old stock or does not know what they have?

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 02:57:14 pm
content: pretty sure it is $1114.00 ! will see soon !

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 02:58:52 pm
content: Was £45 for me as I had to pay worldwide postage, hope I don't get stung for customs duty and VAT

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:05:00 pm
content: I've chanced this but I'm willing to bet hard cash I never see the unit, someone will spot the mistake before shipping. Either that or the price is right but the item is wrong and we all get a headlamp bulb for a Ford Focus.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:06:15 pm
content: Damn, I don't even own a focus! that sure is gonna be an expensive bulb!

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:09:46 pm
content: There are more models available:http://stores.ebay.com.au/Street-AutoParts/_i.html?_nkw=KEITHLEY&submit=Search&_sid=147358973I bought 30V 5A.Does anybody know if this thing has a switch for changing from mains 120V to 240V?

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:11:02 pm
content: Quote from: TheBay on November 12, 2014, 03:06:15 pmMe neither

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:24:17 pm
content: I feel like it's a hacked account...

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:26:13 pm
content: Quote from: amyk on November 12, 2014, 03:24:17 pmBit of an odd item to put on a hacked account?, maybe someone in Australia should enquire about a totally different item and see if they give the right response back?

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:27:14 pm
content: Quote from: frenky on November 12, 2014, 03:09:46 pmAustralia is '240v' anywayData sheet and manuals here:http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/bench-power-supplies/7581121/Maybe a hacked account, or finger trouble by the seller, doubt any of us will see anything delivered!

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:31:09 pm
content: I think he wants to get rid of non-automotive items. He's asking a normal price for anything automobile related.

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:35:24 pm
content: Looks like a drop shipper, I wonder how Keithleys even came to be on an automotive dropshippers list. its highly likely this guy has never seen a Keithley or had one in stock, probably some bot inserts the listings from a wholesalers list. I wonder if the wholesaler actually has units or is the whole thing just a UPC error.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:36:11 pm
content: £42 shipped to UK. I bought one. What the hell, PayPal just extended protection to 180 days for UK residents, and eBay has 45 days protection if PayPal don't come through. Worth a shot?

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:36:45 pm
content: hmmm. i smell rotting fish ...

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:38:51 pm
content: I was tempted to buy the 72V one, but I'd like to see if they would combine postage first.

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:40:47 pm
content: If delivery takes place It'll just be a crap photocopy of the ebay page.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:45:10 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 12, 2014, 03:36:11 pmThat was my thinking

author: lukier
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:48:10 pm
content: Quote from: TheBay on November 12, 2014, 03:45:10 pmMine too and I've noticed I just got feedback from the seller already. This gets more and more interesting

author: ted572
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:51:21 pm
content: I ordered one also and it came to about $62 with shipment to Canada.I also think this is a scam or a big time mistake. But hopefully eBay will have us covered if it is.I would really loose if I had to return it for some reason, because the cost would be very high for the return shipment and this isn't covered. So return is NOT an option at all for me.If we receive what we ordered (although unlikely) we will certainly have a good story to tell.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The seller reports forty (40) have been sold and they are still adding more to the availability list. Looks bad - maybe we are protected by eBay, but to be sure I cancelled my credit card, and yes they billed the $62, although it had not been paid yet. I also cancelled the order with the seller and reported my suspicions to eBay to protect my eBay Buyer Status.Good luck to everyone here, I hope you receive your brand new Power Supply (not really), or at least don't loose any money on this deal.

author: flatlander
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:53:54 pm
content: These power supplies weigh over 7kg. The shipping alone (in Oz) must be more than AUD11.14. Surely they made a typo with the pricing?

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:55:04 pm
content: Still others left, just waiting for the dispatch notification to come though.If it was a hacked account Keithley isn't something I would list? and they are hardly gaining much money from these sales and have low quantities.eBay/Paypal will look after us if it's not right. My guess is a mis-price or clearing stock of something they don't want or accidentally got a pallet of (Happens to my friend who runs a company selling toys to big retailers)

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:55:43 pm
content: Ditto on the feedback, the Keithley factory will be on overtime trying to fulfill this order.Got to be a hacked account, the sold items in the last couple of days are not typical for the seller.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:57:24 pm
content: Quote from: flatlander on November 12, 2014, 03:53:54 pmThe shipping is additional $62AUD to UK, which sounds reasonable for an economy air/ground mixed service.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:57:58 pm
content: Just noticed a shed load of electronic components popped up as well, something fishy here. It's picking up a catalogue from somewhere?

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 03:59:05 pm
content: Quote from: ted572 on November 12, 2014, 03:51:21 pmSomeone PM Dave and if he scores one he can do a destructive teardown and field evaluation. Will it survive a 100ft drop, a dunking in a canyon, Sagan pressing the buttons with sticky fingers?

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:00:01 pm
content: Looks like it might be a Farnell, RS or CPC catalogue. Most of the items are high priced - many around $11.44 like this - maybe it sniffed the price wrong?I'm sure they will realise with 30+orders though!

author: DylanM
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:00:47 pm
content: Quote from: frenky on November 12, 2014, 03:09:46 pmThanks for pointing this out, I ordered a second one of a higher voltage.Quote from: lukier on November 12, 2014, 03:48:10 pmI also received feedback. It's a good sign that there's actually a person behind this, not some kind of bot. Fingers crossed it all works out, although it definitely seems too good to be true.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:01:41 pm
content: I'm really tempted to buy a 60V/2.5A model or 72V/1.2A. But I don't want to rock the boat too much.Many of these feedback messages are probably left by bots. For example mine said "great communication"...

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:02:27 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 12, 2014, 04:00:01 pmLooks just like this, several guys do this on ebay UK with a sniff/copy bot. This sellers recent items are hundreds of overpriced components. The question is do the parts make it out of the warehouse without the error being spotted!

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:04:38 pm
content: All gone now. That was fast.

author: phil
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:06:07 pm
content: QuoteWell, if they do, some people here get an absolute bargain. If not, paypal has their backs and will refund without any major hassle. Its not like daves ebay scam where they try to circumvent the buyer protection.What ever it will be, Im looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:09:00 pm
content: For the grand total of €52.90

author: macboy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:12:17 pm
content: Might be an error with zero items shipping as a result. Or it might be a bargain. I bet with my wallet. If it doesn't turn out, ebay/PP will refund without issue. I am sure of that.I searched this store for "agilent" and many items popped up. Alas, none at $11.14!

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:14:33 pm
content: All feedback left for the past few months (could not be bothered to look further) shows the same feedback as what we have been getting, so don't think it's hacked.I was buying a birthday present for my girlfriend yesterday that was £90 and £90 on Amazon, within a few secs it dropped to £60 on firesale, there was only 2 items on the whole of Amazon, whats the chances of that? My buying luck my be with me on this oneBut just looked at my feedback, I have the same word for word feedback as another seller I bought an item from, maybe they use the same feedback generator...

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:24:51 pm
content: That's odd - two more available?http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/KEITHLEY-PROGRAMMABLE-DC-POWER-SUPPLY-20V-5A-2200-20-5-/191410738692?pt=AU_Electronics_Wholesale_Electronics&hash=item2c90f81604It's like someone is adding more stock as they get bought. These were all gone 1/2 hour ago...

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:26:43 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 12, 2014, 04:24:51 pmSomeone is getting the sack lol!

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:28:59 pm
content: I count 43 sold so far. Chance of them shipping <<0.1%. IMHO.

author: Nuno_pt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:29:19 pm
content: I ask the shipping price to Portugal, but no replay till now

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:31:35 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 12, 2014, 04:24:51 pmThat will be an automated listing, all the more likely someone cops on. Or if it's monitoring stock levels (as it should) all the more likely its a part number error and some LM317s are being packed up for us right this minute.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:34:50 pm
content: Quote from: bookaboo on November 12, 2014, 04:31:35 pmI'm all out of LM317's

author: Nuno_pt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:40:17 pm
content: The price is AU$11.14 and free postage, but on the checkout it show AU$67.

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:41:20 pm
content: Free postage to Australia. You are being charged shipping to EU.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:41:49 pm
content: Quote from: Nuno_pt on November 12, 2014, 04:40:17 pmHaha, you're complaining? UK was $75AUD / £41.43GBPDirt cheap if anything arrives! Consider it an interest free loan to the seller, to spin the wheel-o-fortune...

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:42:47 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 12, 2014, 03:38:51 pmYes they do combine shipping, quite substantial discounts for additional units. All automatically applied at checkout.

author: Nuno_pt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:43:46 pm
content: They seem to be dropping 2 at time now.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:46:31 pm
content: Damn, well, it's the difference between £83 for two PSUs and £50 for two. I'm not complaining, if they arrive I'll be shocked!I bought 20V x 5A and 60V x 2.5A. I should have got 30V x 5A but did not see it.I'm guessing TopLoser's going to order 20 of them...

author: robrenz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:47:24 pm
content: Just purchased oneto the US $67.19 including shipping Just got the order confirmation

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:49:49 pm
content: I will see if it arrives...... Otherwise FNB will be getting a call about reversing a CC payment. As FNB is the official ZA partner of PP all I can lose is a phone call, and some time. At best I get a 72V PSU.Just hope it is not one from that famous Israeli seller.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 04:50:35 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 12, 2014, 04:46:31 pmI took good advantage of the shipping discount, can't deny it!Expecting a refund pretty soon, but if you don't gamble you don't win do you?

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:13:22 pm
content: I'm certain it's a bot gone wrong, another 8 got listed (2 of each)Time in Sydney is 04:13 right now so I guess the seller will have a little surprise when they wake up...500 Keithley PSUs for $5000+shipping.

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:14:07 pm
content: Seems they are all gone now, not surprised though.Had finger poised over the buy button on the 60volt(was 2left), bottled it (have two HP PSU) and they disappeared before my eyes.Good luck with it guys, hope the kit come throughEdit: Yes there are more now!Will these go through?Have they entered into a consumer contract now, or can the just duck out anytime?

author: macboy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:19:00 pm
content: Quote from: Yago on November 12, 2014, 05:14:07 pmSorry, that was meThe 60 V was the one I really wanted. I already have a dozen other supplies in my lab, but none up to 60 V.

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:26:03 pm
content: Quote from: Yago on November 12, 2014, 05:14:07 pmYes they had just added 3x 2 more units when I checked:http://stores.ebay.com.au/Street-AutoParts/_i.html?_nkw=KEITHLEY&submit=Search&_sid=147358973A minute later they were all gone again.Edit: An now there's stock again.It's 4:26 AM in Sydney, Australia right now, so I doubt it's actually a person updating stock all the time and giving buyers feedback. It's probably some bot.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:28:54 pm
content: I got a 30V/5A AU$67 shipped to my house... Hopefully it is not an empty lunchbox...

author: MadTux
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:29:45 pm
content: That dude or a bot keeps adding Keithley PSUs all the time.Also the fact that he has 14k ratings and 200k items in the shop is fishy.

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:31:03 pm
content: Yep, gotta feed the addiction. Just went for a 60V version. Low odds but what the heck, eBay buyer prtoection and all..

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:33:00 pm
content: Quote from: flatlander on November 12, 2014, 03:53:54 pmI wonder if everyone will receive a 7 kg stone in a box.It will probably be a good idea to video record while opening the box (if it arrives), as documentation to eBay if there's just a stone in the box.

author: Nermash
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:34:25 pm
content: Dave wake up, you are missing all the action

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:36:44 pm
content: Well I ended up with a 32volt one.Looks upward and wonders what the outcome of this will be!

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:37:49 pm
content: Someone should wake Dave up

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:41:29 pm
content: It proves that Keithley have really got their pricing wrong, drop it low enough and they can clearly sell hundredsI wish I could lay my hands on a 60 or 72 volt one, I'd even pay $20

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:42:55 pm
content: Quote from: m100 on November 12, 2014, 05:41:29 pmIt's Dave selling them, as lesson for not listening to his warning!$20!You're just showing off now! :p

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:46:54 pm
content: Really no reason to record it. EBay will pretty much refund as long as the seller doesn't keep you satisfied. I've sold items on eBay before and it's very much in the buyer's favour, there are lots of scammy eBay buyers out there.

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 05:57:05 pm
content: I've just bought half a dozen, I suspect I'll never see them but there's only one lot of postage to pay. No idea what the VAT bill might come to if customs decides to charge full rate on them.

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:01:26 pm
content: Quote from: KJDS on November 12, 2014, 05:57:05 pmAh crap, even if it works there's still the b*****rd government to take a cut!!!!

author: Mr Simpleton
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:10:27 pm
content: Thought I was late at the party... but it seems to relist and relist and relist...Got one just for fun!

author: briandorey
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:10:50 pm
content: Just paid for a 60V, 2.5A one to come to the UK, be interesting to see if it turns up

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:15:09 pm
content: In three or four hours, someone is going to twig as they get into work and find out what's happened.I'm hoping there's a chance that some will get shipped out before they've had enough coffee to work out what's going on.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:15:42 pm
content: Quote from: KJDS on November 12, 2014, 05:57:05 pmHaha! but it's still worth it

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:17:46 pm
content: I have a feeling someone is going to wake up in Australia tomorrow, look at their computer andBut, but, but I thought i listed those at $1114 ......

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:24:12 pm
content: I wonder if their price and description scraping bot can't handle commas in prices.So when it sees a Keithley PSU for AUD$1,100, it sees $1. It bumps the price up to a minimum $11.14 (the rest of their catalogue has loads of these, smd resistors etc., it's the cheapest item price they have) and keeps relisting them as they are sold as the source still has them for sale.

author: Mr Simpleton
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:26:45 pm
content: Fishy... now the link provided from the OP shows 6 more for sale... Jeez someone seems to found a wihite van full of these

author: macboy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:33:06 pm
content: Quote from: Mr Simpleton on November 12, 2014, 06:26:45 pmIt is entirely possible, though very unlikely, that someone bought a pallet or warehouse full of these N.O.S. for peanuts, then put a standard markup (3x purchase price or whatever) and is actually making a small profit on these. Possible. Unlikely.

author: Vito_R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:34:57 pm
content: Quote from: frenky on November 12, 2014, 03:09:46 pmThe specs show min voltage as 199 and 99v so I'm taking a chance that it can be switched. Picked one up and will see what happens. Bet you they will not ship them.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:39:13 pm
content: Ordered 2 of these as well ( 20V 5A version) but agree with tom66's possible explanation for this. Probably a bot gone wild and missing a decimal point. Don't expect them to deliver, all orders will just get canceled. (although they shouldn't be able to, freaking bot advertisers with standard margins should pay the price for their full automation zero human-check laziness, in my opinion)

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:43:23 pm
content: Well there is the possibility that someone will run with the money, leaving Paypal to cough up the loss to us.So perhaps we are not the target, but paypal is.Mere pawns again?If, that is, the gods of good fortune and bad robots are not smiling upon us.

author: Vito_R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:43:53 pm
content: Quote from: Vito_R on November 12, 2014, 06:34:57 pmYup manual says it has a mains input voltage selector. I really hope we get lucky and these guys actually ship them out. That's one nice power supply. Hope I don't get the old brick in a box scam.

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:47:09 pm
content: I'm suprised no one is buying 4 D cells from the same seller at $42.95AU.http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181584268776ORAU $3,848.26 for the capacitorshttp://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171528301551I wonder if this account is somehow related to the 100+ million ebay passwords stolen back in May 2014?

author: LaurenceW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 06:59:40 pm
content: I guess this is a COCKUP, not a scam. A scammer would probably have asked $3-400 dollars, and still expect to hit a good few punters!Youmighteven get your money back - eventually.

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 07:06:26 pm
content: Quote from: LaurenceW on November 12, 2014, 06:59:40 pmGood point Lawrence.Why would there be a problem or delay with a refund in that case?

author: Mr.B
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 07:14:21 pm
content: Ebay buyer protection... I have put my AU$22.28 in for two of them.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 07:19:55 pm
content: Ordered a 20v 5a. Only one of those left as of now.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 07:30:08 pm
content: More of you getting mail from the seller? (via direct email, not ebay messaging)Also to note, the "logging into your account" url refers to handyimports.com.au

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 08:41:50 pm
content: I must lookup what these can actually do. I just got the 72v version, fills a nice gap in. I see some of you went to town ;-)

author: Ryano
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 08:42:10 pm
content: Seeing as I haven't bought any Lottery tickets this year I grabbed one of the 60V 2.5A (All that was left at the time). I've blown more on a night at the bar.I'm not sure what's going on, but with all the buyer protection covering this I doubt it's a deliberate scam. I more believe the "Bot gone wrong and misplaced the decimal point" theory.All we can hope is that the same Bot that screwed the pooch in the first place, that is happily taking our money, giving us positive feedback, and sending order confirmations, also automatically sends the "release for shipment" order to whatever warehouse these are sitting in before anyone notices.I would love to be there 30 days from now. Someone is going to shit when they open a $100,000.00 invoice against the $1000.00 of sales and shipped product.That....or we all get screwed and have a nice laugh together a few months from now.If we do actually get product I'm going to be kicking myself for not stocking up and flipping units for a huge profit!

author: bingo600
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 08:42:48 pm
content: Had to get 2 x 30v/5A ....But have my doubts ..../Bingo

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 08:44:49 pm
content: I had a similar situation with a seller advertising professional LCD viewfinders for only GBP10 each.I bought ten of them. Next day I received an email from the seller stating that somehow the stock level had been listed as the price ! The units were over GBP500 each and they were not going to honour the sales. Ebay cannot force the seller to ship the items and the seller just refunds payments.Whilst I hope that you all get your early Christmas Present, do not be surprised to receive a refund shortly.For those wishing to play safe, why not buy one but delay making payment for a day or two to see if the seller contacts you.Aurora

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 08:56:57 pm
content: I actually hope that they are NOS without knowing the value. So no actual loss. I don't feel like costing some small business thousands of dollars - likely that'll come right out the back pocket of the business owner, if it's not noticed already.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:04:44 pm
content: lol I'm in for $2k worth.....this will be funny if I get a shipping confirmation. With ebay and pay pal buyer protections there is no issue about getting "scammed".....I have dealt with deadbeat ebay deals before and got my money back within a couple days of filing complaintIf, by some miracle the units show up at the warehouse, I will be happy to re-list them for a couple hundred bucks each and keep a few dozen for the lab.....Just imagine having a keithly psu to power each component in a development topology....Time to order a few bags of pomona quick clips, some bananas and some hook-up wire

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:20:24 pm
content: Quote from: Aurora on November 12, 2014, 08:44:49 pmBut if it was one of us selling something eBay wouldn't let us off for a Mis-price.

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:29:42 pm
content: Order cancelled by seller.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:31:38 pm
content: QuoteGiven how many have sold, that's going to dent his seller rating

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:32:28 pm
content: Quote from: EdoNork on November 12, 2014, 09:29:42 pmPretty weak from the seller, considering there are still active (in stock) ads online with it...

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:34:51 pm
content: Email says nothing about why it has been cancelled.Thay are not thinking clearly. To much orders

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:35:22 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on November 12, 2014, 09:31:38 pmDo you actually get to leave a rating if the order is cancelled?

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:35:47 pm
content: OMG imagine all the bad feedback, oh yeah they will appeal and eBay will remove it LOL

author: Vito_R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:36:14 pm
content: Does that mean we won't get our brick in the box??

author: MadTux
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:37:03 pm
content: And why is he caneling sales while those Keithleys are still available?!!!?http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=street-autoparts&item=191410738692&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313&_nkw=keithley&_sacat=0And he uses the picture of the 30V/5A version for every listing.This gets more and more interesting and funny

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:37:10 pm
content: QuoteNot his feedback but the seller rating maintained by ebay - the DSRs are part of this but you also get demerits for "defects" including the seller cancelling orders.Edit: and I think he's going to be cancelling a lot of orders.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:37:34 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 12, 2014, 09:04:44 pmLol that's taking the mick a bit ordering 2k worth

author: krivx
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:39:18 pm
content: 2k$ worth is two power supplies...

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:41:11 pm
content: Quote from: krivx on November 12, 2014, 09:39:18 pmBut he was talking about keeping a "dozen" for the lab and stuf, so presumably 2k$ worth of ordering... At just under $10 a piece, that's 200 powersupplies (not including shipping)*edit*Quote

author: rt
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:43:48 pm
content: Just received this:Dear Street-Autoparts Shopper,This is a courtesy email to let you know that the order you placed online on 13th of November 2014 will not be process. And you will receive a cancellation notice for your recent online order from Street-Autoparts.We wanted to reach out to you to help you understand why your order has been cancelled. We know that this is a very unfortunate situation and certainly it is never our intention to disappoint anyone who chooses to shop with us online.This technical issue posed a significant challenge for our IT department and in turn a decision was made by management to cancel all the orders placed on 13th of November. Your order will be cancelled and you will be refunded in full if any payment has been made.We would very much like the opportunity to make amends, and we are offering you direct communication using eBay.Regards,IT Team(sorry this is my first post. Long time follower, first time poster)

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:45:33 pm
content: Quote from: TheBay on November 12, 2014, 09:37:34 pmWill keep ordering them as well.....if they haven't gotten a clue to take the listing down...I don't mind spending a bit of time to be mischievous. A few orders got cancellation mail already, but who knows if I keep ordering they might miss one

author: Vito_R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:46:53 pm
content: Quote from: rt on November 12, 2014, 09:43:48 pmOK I'll take one for $50AU then. You can make amends.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:47:20 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 12, 2014, 09:45:33 pmWhy? Do you like being an a-hole?

author: caall99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:50:35 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 12, 2014, 09:47:20 pmKinda seems like he enjoys it with that attitude...I ordered two, but now feel bad for the IT guy that is going to take the blame for screwing up the ordering/pricing system. Someones job or livelyhood could be at stake here, especially if this issue tarnishes the ebay sellers reputation permanently.I hope the company treats its employees with forgiveness...

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:52:05 pm
content: Looks like they are cancelling all orders manually. I got aboard a bit late and my order still has to be cancelled

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:56:00 pm
content: Oh well. It was worth a shot.Not the first time this has happened to me. Someone got their decimal place in the wrong spot on this one.

author: MadTux
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 09:57:45 pm
content: Now some Keithleys had sex and got a child:

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:01:06 pm
content: Quote from: george graves on November 12, 2014, 09:56:00 pmMe too, Look at this one... Ended up with 10pcs instead of 10.000 pcs (seller refunded without hassle)

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:03:36 pm
content: All orders for the 13th are cancelled, not just the supplies.TBH, I would rather this ending than brick in a box arguments.I wonder if the OP had kept very quiet would his have arrived?

author: Retep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:05:40 pm
content: Strangely enough they still offer a couple of models on eBay. I would expect that after a fuck up one would remove the eBay listings first, before sending cancellation mails...

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:10:19 pm
content: No email yet myself...

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:11:01 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 12, 2014, 09:47:20 pmsometimesI have no sympathy for listing bots, or clearing house style vendors.....those are the folks that put little guys out of business.....

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:12:32 pm
content: If you check their feedback, and click on the link to see only the negative feedback, they seem to have a history of selling items not in stock. And complaints of not sending refunds right away.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:21:47 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 12, 2014, 10:11:01 pmThis guy isn't putting anyone out of business any time soon with his $3k capacitors and $12 resistor strips. Listing bot it may be, doesn't really affect me, so I don't care.I'm just left wondering who actually pays $11.14 to get some SMD resistors or capacitors.

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:25:08 pm
content: Quote from: nitro2k01 on November 12, 2014, 09:35:22 pmNo

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:29:33 pm
content: The price was changed to $9000 a few minutes ago, and nowboththe listings(20V and30V versions) are marked as ended. I guess that's the end of it. Let's see when I will get my cancellation e-mail...Edit: Correction.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:32:30 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 12, 2014, 10:21:47 pmhe also had some insane prices on ferrite clamps and photo-resistors.....listing bot gone mad....i don't feel bad for the guy at all....he thinks he can use a robot to make easy money, vs the people who spend the time to provide quality/accurate listings on ebayguys like this are the ones who really killed the original intent of ebay....well maybe not intent (who knows what that was) but they turned ebay into a place where it's hard to get a deal or make a buck....i rather look forward to having to file a grievance against them to get my $ back.....anything that dings their account and makes them think twice about their "business practices"....it's rather shameful IMOThere is also the highly unlikely chance that one or two of the units I ordered might slip through the cracks and actually turn up? doubtful, but would be somewhat hilarious

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:36:37 pm
content: Just received this email:Hi ...,I just got an email from suppliers advising that the manufacturers no longer make this item/model, every now and then they discontinue some items 'very slow sellers', so unfortunately we won't be able to supply this item at this stage, our suppliers say that they will start an their quarterly stock take soon and they might come across this part in the process, they have me on back order if one or more shows up, I have done the same and placed you on back order for this part, we can refund you for now and email you once item is available, if you are still in the market for one of these when one shows up we can make another transaction 'listing and purchase from eBay' then,Sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused and please select from one of the options below.Refund me now but contact me once item arrive and give me 10% discount.Refund me now and don't keep me in backorder.Regards,Street Auto PartsEmail : autopartswedo@gmail.comWebsite :www.streetautoparts.com.auEbay : stores.ebay.com.au/street-autoparts[Edit: The green and red texts at the bottom of this email, are both clickable and both links to pages athttp://www.streetautoparts.com.au]

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:36:50 pm
content: When I was stupid enough to sell things on Ebay I seem to recall being taken roughly up the arse by a buyer because a 'Buy It Now' listing was a legally binding contract.That was a few years ago, I won't ever sell stuff on Ebay again, buyers have it all in their favour.As it happens I have a couple of these PSU's under my desk anyway, bought when Tek was clearing stock out like they do at random sometimes. I think they were giving them away as part of a deal as well.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:39:59 pm
content: Quote from: AndersAnd on November 12, 2014, 10:36:37 pmSend that to Keithly, eBay......should be good for a laugh anyhow

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:41:19 pm
content: Quote from: AndersAnd on November 12, 2014, 10:36:37 pmI got that EMail Anders!Are they trying to pull a fast one because of consumer law in EU?IE they are out of stock, we will sell you one a $1100 bucks when they come in.They out of stock is a lie as the contract could be binding in EU??

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:41:40 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on November 12, 2014, 10:36:50 pmYes....I plan to file the same type of grievance with eBay.....the buy it now is a binding contract. It's these bot listers that have killed ebay....there was a time when ebay was a great place to sell and buy.....these days it's too much work to be worth it, despite the occasional "deal"

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:43:48 pm
content: Quote from: AndersAnd on November 12, 2014, 10:36:37 pmImo the sobb excuse about being discontinued would be reason for me to leave a big fat negative feedback. Just admit the mistake and refund swiftly without banging around the bush.. This is just bad marketing from them

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:44:49 pm
content: QuoteIt is but I'm sure that it's also true that sellers do not have to honour deals which are obviously in error.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:46:14 pm
content: TopLoser,That is correct. If I sell something on ebay and "accidentally" put the wrong BIN and someone bought it I am legally supposed to ship it. Which I have done, the buyer can seek legal advice if I don't do so as it's a legally binding contract. There is also a law in the UK regarding payments being taken for goods. Amazon don't take payment till dispatch for this reason.So what gives this seller different rights to any of us? Same rules apply as far as I know.The emails I have read above look to be a sneaky way to cancel and refund your money without eBay intervention. And getting a dent in their seller status.Those who spent 2k or went silly on them are just daft imho. That's going to flag up a red light straight away. And ruin it for themselves and possibly everyone else.Ebay has become a nightmare for buyers lately due to issues like this. It's like alibaba these days and more of a online shopping mall and rules don't seem to apply to some sellers. But when we list things they come down on us like a tonne of bricks.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:46:30 pm
content: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fixed-price.html

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:48:07 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on November 12, 2014, 10:44:49 pmBut in the mail he claims the ad is correct but low on stock because it is "discontinued"Thus by using this clear lie, making himself a target under EU law?If he would just have said "Our screw-little-sellers out of business autobot has gone rogue, sorry for this and all todays order are cancelled" instead of this BS excuse.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:50:35 pm
content: Quote from: TheBay on November 12, 2014, 10:46:14 pmWhy is that daft? No one here actually expected to get these things for $11 did they?What would we "be ruining for ourselves"? Nothing ventured, nothing lost....but was good for a laughEbay has become a nightmare because of clearing house style operations like the "seller" we are all questioning....so I look forward to the plethora of negative dings coming against their account....where is your sense of humor sir ?

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:51:02 pm
content: Quote from: Yago on November 12, 2014, 10:41:19 pmHave you clicked at one of the links?I don't plan on clicking on any of these links. Why should I click of something that links tohttp://www.streetautoparts.com.au, when the purchase was made at eBay?If they want to cancel orders, they should do the cancellation (at eBay). But so far my two orders haven't been cancelled at eBay yet.I placed two different orders, but so far I've only received one of the above emails, so I don't even know what order it's for. No order number or item description is mentioned at all. It doesn't even say the order was placed at eBay. Very poor communication.

author: baljemmett
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:53:09 pm
content: Quote from: nitro2k01 on November 12, 2014, 09:35:22 pmYes - a few months back I left negative feedback and a poor rating for a seller who obviously decided he wasn't happy with the size of my winning bid on his auction, and so cancelled it with the false claim that I asked him to send the item to a country he didn't ship to (we were both in the UK). Wasn't happy about it, but negative feedback was the only option left!

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:53:53 pm
content: Haha what a messTime to get the popcorn out and sit back

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:55:47 pm
content: Quote from: AndersAnd on November 12, 2014, 10:51:02 pmI have no intention of clicking the links either.Even the links are misleading, accept refund or accept refund.Are the units current stock, or is that tooreallyoff the wall BS?

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 10:56:59 pm
content: QuoteCancelling the order will automatically dent his status.However the buyers need to agree the cancellation - wonder what would happen if we all refuse then put in item not received claims.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:00:01 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on November 12, 2014, 10:56:59 pmThat's the planDeath to the bots

author: janengelbrecht
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:01:05 pm
content: Just in the last month i have earnt about 300 dollar by buying stuff on ebay instead at local dealersSo im a happy guy... never a problem...perhaps im just lucky ?

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:02:34 pm
content: I have received 2 emails now.. (Have 1 order for 2 psu's).The url's in the email are :streetautoparts.com.au /oos/index.php?decision=1&id=xxxxxwhere xxxxx is a numeric id, but it is clearly a auto incrementing id because the one from the second email is the one from the first email +1. So if you have the url, you could just random enter id's and decision's (1 for discount option, 2 for no backorder). Are they freaking kidding me

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:03:01 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on November 12, 2014, 10:56:59 pmBut the thing is he haven't cancelled my order at eBay but just sent this email, where I can click which cancellation option I want.Probably to get the customer to initiate the cancellation instead of him having to cancel the order on eBay on his own, without my blessing.But I don't plan on clicking on any of these cancellation links. The seller should just be honest about what went wrong if the price is wrong instead of this out of stock BS.

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:06:14 pm
content: Quote from: janengelbrecht on November 12, 2014, 11:01:05 pmYou are reasonably covered as a buyer if you use PayPal.As a seller on eBay on the other hand you can easily be screwed by a buyer who claimes to never havee received the item bought or revived a defect device. They can just make a money back claim and you are pretty much screred as an eBay seller.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:06:22 pm
content: when robots make mistakes....humans pay.....bwahahahahahahmaybe the seller will think twice about employing robots over humans....?or better yet get locked out of ebay all together.....sadly I am sure another robot will just take their place....

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:08:51 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 12, 2014, 11:06:22 pmRobots doesn't make mistakes, the humans designing and programming them make mistakes. :-)

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:12:06 pm
content: Quote from: AndersAnd on November 12, 2014, 11:08:51 pmtouche'

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:12:59 pm
content: Quote from: CrashO on November 12, 2014, 10:48:07 pmI am not a lawyer but I am married to one <boo hiss>EU law does not apply to Australia and vice versa! It's bad enough trying to get UK law to apply to purchases made on Ebay UK by a UK buyer from a UK seller.The 'order confirmed' email received by many is key. That, following the acceptance of funds points towards a firm contract to supply.If something similar happened wholly within the UK then there may be a case of 'loss of bargain' under the Sales of Goods Act 1979. This effectively gives the purchaser the rights to continue with the contract and enforce the purchase or cancel and make alternative supply arrangements and seek compensation from the original contracting party for the difference.Something similar possibly exists under Australian Law.

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:16:10 pm
content: I had the generic email, and sent a reply saying I expect him to message me through ebay.I'll see what he does, but I'm more annoyed about the lie about these no longer being made.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:35:12 pm
content: I'm going to say I've spoken to Keithley and they have lots of stock, so do RS, Farnell, E13 and TopLoser has a few under his bench. So they can supply it from either of the above lol.

author: andrija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:44:04 pm
content: I got a somewhat different message - something about a "significant challenge for our IT department". Not sure what it's about but they say they will cancel (of course).Quote

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:49:12 pm
content: Quote from: andrija on November 12, 2014, 11:44:04 pmIt's funny how they say "We wanted to reach out to you to help you understand why" but don't give a proper explanation other then "this technical issue"I replied to their bollock mail about being discontinued (I can't stand lies, just admit the mistake and all is good.....)Quote

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:51:51 pm
content: QuoteWhat technical issue? They wrote that they wanted to reach out to you to help you understand why your order has been cancelled. But doesn't actually give any reason.QuoteMy order was placed on November 12th (my time), because I'm several hours behind Australia, does this mean my order won't be cancelled?

author: Mr Simpleton
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 12, 2014, 11:53:15 pm
content: Sigh... Still I had no hopes, it was just for good fun thoughDear Street-Autoparts Shopper,This is a courtesy email to let you know that the order you placed online on 13th of November 2014 will not be process. And you will receive a cancellation notice for your recent online order from Street-Autoparts.We wanted to reach out to you to help you understand why your order has been cancelled. We know that this is a very unfortunate situation and certainly it is never our intention to disappoint anyone who chooses to shop with us online.This technical issue posed a significant challenge for our IT department and in turn a decision was made by management to cancel all the orders placed on 13th of November. Your order will be cancelled and you will be refunded in full if any payment has been made.We would very much like the opportunity to make amends, and we are offering you direct communication using eBay.Regards,IT Team

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 12:07:34 am
content: I sent them back listings for the PSU (new in stock) and told them if they care to discuss anything other than sending my power supplies, they would have to take it up with eBay....they are actually blowing it and might legally have to answer for the lies in their messages to us. Why not just say their bot went crazy, and they don't employ humans and they are very sorry for all of the above.If I thought it was worth the time there might actually be some legal recourse here, to get them to honor the binding sales contract. The are perpetrating a fraud with their responses to this fiasco.If everyone just ignores the direct solicited email (against ebay policy) and forces them to send a cancellation request, via ebay.....then denies the request....we might be able to get at least one more bot blocked from eBay...I somehow doubt eBay cares at all and will support the seller here, but who knows.....the situation went from slightly humorous to anger (on my end) as soon as they sent the unsolicited private email, lying about the unit being discontinued

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 12:26:40 am
content: Aaaand, I finally received the "courtesy" style message. (Ie, not the one with the lies and links.) I ordered the 20V version. Could it be that people who ordered the 20V and 30V units are getting different messages?

author: jadew
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 12:30:32 am
content: I got the same two messages as well. If it's discontinued, why is it still listed (now at 9000 AUD)?Regardless of all the commotion here, they actually get to benefit from that mistake, because whatever price they put in there, it will still say 60 sold, making the asking price seem more legit for someone who doesn't know better.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 12:36:58 am
content: Quote from: jadew on November 13, 2014, 12:30:32 amsomeone should buy one for $9k and see if they send the same email, about it being unavailable and discontinued....

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 12:41:35 am
content: Quote from: TopLoser on November 12, 2014, 10:53:53 pmHow many pages do you think this thread will eventually run to?

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 12:53:17 am
content: Quote from: G0HZU on November 13, 2014, 12:41:35 amwell over 9000

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 12:54:17 am
content: Quote from: G0HZU on November 13, 2014, 12:41:35 amForty two, or over nine thousand, depending on your age*stealthed by a Tuner!*

author: andrija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:04:29 am
content: It looks like a classic bait and switch. Still, I want my 60+ bucks back asap, to be honest. Looks like I'll have to open a dispute with EBay like everyone else. Last time it happened years ago, they only refunded me about 40% of what I was scammed out of. They are supposedly much better about buyer protection these days. Anyone knows what is the waiting time for submitting claims? It would have to be at least a week.

author: Vito_R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:06:38 am
content: Just got another email from them but this time directly to my email address and not through ebay. They gave me a bullshit reply stating they are out of stock and the item is no longer manufactured. Asking if I wanted to be placed on backorder and give me a 10% discount? hmmm Yah sure. At the same time they relisted the item for $9000AU. Well these guys are a bunch of scammers it seems. They might as well just mail out that brick in the box while they are at it.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:13:55 am
content: Quote from: Vito_R on November 13, 2014, 01:06:38 amThere are 2 versions of emails going around.One using ebay, beginning with "This is a courtesy email to let you know that the order you placed online on 13th of November 2014 will not be process. " and another one using direct mail, with the story about no longer being manufactured.I have received both (the BS mail about it being EOL even twice), with the ebay "courtesy" mail coming last. But my mate received them in reversed order. (just like you apparently).Everyone who received the mail about it being no longer manufactured should just reply it is still very much being made and in stock worldwide, and they are happy to hear the price was right and it was just a low inventory, and are looking forward to receiving their PSU.

author: Vito_R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:18:04 am
content: Quote from: CrashO on November 13, 2014, 01:13:55 amYes actually I received that first email and replied through ebay. I asked them to honor their ebay contract with me. As soon as I hit send it seemed they programmed their f-up bot to immediately send out that 2nd bullshit email to my personal email address.

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:19:35 am
content: Ebay/Paypal Australia try and distort Australian law to suit their procedures, getting refunds is slow and painful. At the same time Australian law won't hold the seller to the incorrect sale price but they will have to claim that the price was a mistake, at which point the goods don't have to be provided but they do have to refund the money immediately (which Ebay/Paypal will say they can't do).

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:24:01 am
content: Quote from: Someone on November 13, 2014, 01:19:35 amWill this still be valid now they have send out emails about it being a matter of lack of inventory because it is supposedly EOL? By which they are silently implying (in my opion) the price was right.As it is easy to debunk their false claim about it being EOL, how does that leave our "case"?

author: RJFreeman
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:44:22 am
content: FWIW there is precedent in Australia for a 'Bargain' Ebay sale being enforceable:http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/08/03/1185648121130.html"August 3, 2007There will be no more weasling out of eBay sales after a judge today ruled against a man who has been refusing to hand over a $250,000 vintage plane he sold on the online auction site."

author: andrija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:56:06 am
content: I received the other email now as well. First one about "IT issues", second about "out of stock".

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 02:51:26 am
content: I have been browsing their items a bit and not only pricing appears of, but also shipping on their normal gear.Check outthis beauty, Only $1.432,30 shipping for a baseball cap O0It has been 5 hours since they started sending out cancellation mails, why not close the eBay store until everything is fixed? Wouldn't surprise me if at the moment it is still possible to find something cheap that is supposed to cost a lot. (If you don't mind crawling through 4000 pages). I just don't get them..

author: flatlander
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 04:09:26 am
content: Paypal refunding has begun ...

author: robrenz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 04:52:18 am
content: Just received my Paypal refund

author: Vgkid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 04:52:36 am
content: Quote from: CrashO on November 13, 2014, 02:51:26 amThat shipping cost...Only if it is delivered by hot virgins would it be worth it. And we get to keep them...

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 05:22:28 am
content: My paypal refund has just come through.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 05:23:32 am
content: Quote from: robrenz on November 13, 2014, 04:52:18 amDid you ask for it? I want my $60 back.

author: jadew
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 05:27:18 am
content: Quote from: george graves on November 13, 2014, 05:23:32 amNo, they're refunding everyone.Now the items I ordered appear as unpaid. I wonder what will happen if I pay them again

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 05:49:11 am
content: They are breaking all kinds of ebay rules.....they can't just send the money back, without a mutual cancellation of terms....if someone wanted to take this as far as possible, they could get these guys shut down.....I somehow doubt the outcome will ever be a Keithly 2000 series PSU though....I don't believe they ever had them, or ever will....

author: RJFreeman
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:18:23 am
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 05:49:11 amAnd Australian rules also, where there is precedent that an Ebay sale is considered an enforceable contract.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:27:30 am
content: Quote from: Nermash on November 12, 2014, 05:34:25 pmSeem that I did!So what went down here?13 pages of posts in one day?!Now it's listed at $10K?

author: DylanM
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:52:47 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 13, 2014, 06:27:30 amBasically, last night I came across a $1K Keithley power supply listed on eBay for $11. Myself and about 50 other people thought it seemed like it was worth the small risk to order some, just in case it was true. Throughout the night the seller kept adding stock seemingly automatically, so there was a practically infinite supply.Then this morning once they realised what had happened, the seller started sending out emails trying to cover themselves and get out of the situation without harming their reputation. They're now starting to refund people.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:55:21 am
content: Like I said, I never expected this to actually ship, I ordered $2k worth as a joke.....BUT the response from the seller has me actually pissed off. I was planning on just seeing a cancellation from them on eBay, with a note explaining a "pricing error". I just wanted to make life harder for the bot clearing houses that have destroyed eBay, as an auction site....and turned it into Alibaba marketplace.However the blatant lie in the unsolicited (not through eBay) email, has me somewhat ticked off. I doubt it's worth my time, but I feel the need to report this activity to eBay. They obviously never had the units, are lying about them being "discontinued" and simply won't admit their bot screwed up pricing. Which leads me to believe, that this might not be a bot error after all. It sounds like a scam to try and get people to buy "10%" off MSRP units OFF OF EBAY!!!That is fraud. Flat out. I plan on taking this up with eBay, and have already demanded that they honor the terms of their sales contract, or explain to eBay why they are lying in their emails to "customers". Nothing pisses me off more than liars and cheats. I would love to see everyone here do the same and get these jokers removed from EBAY.....or have to pay for their actions, by sending us all power supplies (for the absurd price they listed at).What's more, then are still listing the item, now at $9k. So if it's unavailable and discontinued....why is it still listed?This has to be the worst strategy in the history of ebay. I purposely ordered a ridiculous amount of them, to try and get a lot of cancellations against their account (like I said I hate bot run clearing houses on ebay....they have killed, what was once a cool place to do business).I implore you all to take similar action, and demand a formal cancellation request, through ebay. That will easily get these asshats shut down. 300 plus cancellations is sure to take down their little scheme. If they continue to deny availability...even better. Find stock, call their bullshit and FORCE them to honor the sale.Again I know it's hassle and time, but it's worth the effort IMO to get this kind of "seller" off of ebay. They dilute the market and stop private persons from doing fair transactions on EBAY.Forget the PSU's.....I mean none of us actually expected to get these things did they?

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:51:05 am
content: I've had my refund and that pathetic email. But it hasn't actually been cancelled though. I'm with you TurnerSandwhich.Noticed looking through their bad feedback this isn't the first time they haven't delivered.You can help out a bit more though as you dropped 2k on them haha

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:52:37 am
content: Uh... One of my payments was cancelled and returned. The other... It wasn't. I'll wait for the tracking email....

author: Vito_R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:53:02 am
content: Well I got my refund too, guess no brick in the box at least.

author: AndersAnd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:01:04 am
content: I've also been refunded for both orders. But the orders are still open.Just tried to click "Resolve a problem" at the eBay oders and got this message:Quote

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:05:28 am
content: Quote from: TheBay on November 13, 2014, 07:51:05 amThat was the plan all along

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:34:18 am
content: Quote from: jadew on November 13, 2014, 05:27:18 amI just paid them again :p I used the drop down box and clicked "Pay Now"My refund came from someone called H&Y not this company, will see what happens this time.....

author: JoeN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:48:53 am
content: After Dave's talking about spark gaps and also mentioning gas discharge tubes in a recent video, I wanted to get a few on the cheap to play with them. I've never found one in a circuit I have taken apart. I found a guy on eBay that listed one for $1.39, and in another listing, 10 for $1.39, $2.74 to ship in both cases. This part is $1.41 on DigiKey. Fairly obviously, that second listing was an error. Anyway, probably this was unethical, but I ordered 2 (20 total). I didn't want to order more because it's unlikely I will ever use that many, if I use any at all other than some screwing around with. Also, I figured it was more likely he would ship the order if the order was not completely unreasonable. He shipped, then he changed the price to $8.95 (for 10).http://www.ebay.com/itm/361081194093(see "2 sold" for the original price at $1.39).An I a terrible person?

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 10:30:36 am
content: I still haven't received a eBay cancellation or my money back. Wonder when the trace-code shows upJust have the direct mail about no longer being manufactured from 11.5 hours ago, and the eBay message about explaining (nothing) from 11 hours ago

author: ted572
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:27:46 pm
content: I also received a couple of direct emails from the seller. How did they get my actual email? I thought that eBay did not supply our email address to their sellers (?).In any case I have since changed my 'eBay' and /PayPal' Passwords to cover my exterior, which we should be doing on a regular basis anyway.-> You all may want to do the same!

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:46:52 pm
content: My 72V was cancelled but my two 30v are still being processed

author: bingo600
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:50:14 pm
content: I got the "Not in stock email" , and the ebay "We're reaching out to you"And got my payment refunded.Now i have a "unpayed item" , that still isn't cancelled officiallyI tried to select the : I didn't receive the item and was greeted withQuoteI guess as it's marked unpaid PayPal rejects the claim.Technically i can get in trouble here (ebay wise) , as i have an unpaid item that i have committed to buy.If i just leave it here i, don't i risk getting a "bad rating" for not paying my buy's ?/Bingo

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 01:51:19 pm
content: Quote from: Towger on November 13, 2014, 01:46:52 pmLol mine got refunded through paypal, but was in my list of items I haven't paid for so paid again and got another order confirmation hahah!

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 02:05:19 pm
content: My guess would be they are refunding through paypal, but not canceling the orders on eBay, in an attempt not to sink their internal eBay rating... (killing ours in the process). Someone should inform Ebay about these Jokers...

author: macboy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 02:11:11 pm
content: Quote from: ted572 on November 13, 2014, 01:27:46 pmYou paid with Paypal. Your Paypal ID is your e-mail address.

author: bingo600
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 02:16:53 pm
content: I'we just sent them this messageQuoteBut i have a bad felling that nothing will happen , unless i repay via PayPal.The leave feedback is still working : They are playing with fire here ...../Bingo

author: krivx
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 02:30:56 pm
content: Am I the only person to receive no updates at all? No communication through ebay or email.

author: caall99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 02:41:49 pm
content: Quote from: krivx on November 13, 2014, 02:30:56 pmCheck your spam folder... thats where all their correspondences are automatically ending up.

author: Mr Simpleton
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 03:09:59 pm
content: Paid with PayPal, got cancelling letter (2 acctually) and decided to choose refund. Nothing received so far. I'll give them a day or two

author: caall99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 03:11:54 pm
content: I too received the "full refund + 10% off or full refund" email to my personal email address, and was personally offended.Though I was empathetic before, I have now changed my opinion on these guys:It appears they are pulling a scam/marketing trick, and it's in our best interest to inform eBay of this seller's activities, or to warn those after us not to purchase from street-autoparts. I do have the opportunity to leave feedback, shall we all slam them with negative feedback? Ask for a proper cancellation? How can we band together and drive this home? Their misdealings and general honesty should not go unpunished.

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 03:42:42 pm
content: Filled "Report a seller" on com.au site.Seller is not honouring contract, does not state reason for a cancelled order, seems to publish misleading information about stock level (stock was 2, then 0, then 2, 0, 2, etc. - some 30-60 orders total with "actual" stock of 2 made). I have suspicion that actual stock was 0 all the time.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 03:47:08 pm
content: Quote from: caall99 on November 13, 2014, 03:11:54 pmI share this opinion. If they just would have send out a message (using eBay messaging rather then directmail), explaining they had a automated eBayscript screwing the pooch and offering products at invalid prices. And provided refunds (the correct way, using eBay). All would have been fine by me, no hard feelings.But the story about no longer being manufactured (which is BS, Keithley still produces them, several large distributers still have them in plenty of stock),The fact they are still (at this very moment) selling them (for 10 times the price at Farnell...) on their eBay account, and the way of refunding stuff directly and thus bypassing eBay, so all of us will end up with unpaid items in your accounts. Is together enough to really really wind me up

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 03:48:39 pm
content: Quote from: caall99 on November 13, 2014, 03:11:54 pmIt is your right. I will see how it develops with eBay.Quote from: caall99 on November 13, 2014, 03:11:54 pmReport seller to eBay. Citizens of AU could also report suspicious selling practices on local eBay site of this business entity to local authorities if there is appropriate laws for such cases.

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 04:46:43 pm
content: The leave feedback link is still working for me. I don't know what the implications of filling this in would be (for the buyer). Maybe it would imply to eBay that the transaction was completed, which makes it impossible to cancel the order, for example. But, just noting it's still there.

author: caall99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 04:55:49 pm
content: I cannot find a way to "report seller" on ebay. Also, I am holding off on leaving feedback, cause i am unsure of the implications of doing so.I am also not pressing the link that represents one of the two resolution options that they sent to my personal email. I assume they will only process a refund if you click one of the two options?I am starting to loathe this seller, for being the dishonest scam artist that he is... Can someone come up with a boiler plate message that we can all report the seller to eBay with?

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 05:03:53 pm
content: So now I have gone and tried to re-pay the items (they attempted the refund trick) and they are trying to "charge additional fees". This is going to get ugly. As I said yesterday, this is a scam to try and sell PSU's OFF ebay.....I am contacting ebay and possibly legal council. These guys are about to deal with the ramifications of pissing off a bunch of engineers

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 05:18:24 pm
content: Might be worth moaning to their bank as well lolBank Deposit and Internet Transfers:Account Name: H and Y International Trading Pty LtdBSB: 012-468Account Number: 280769139Bank Name: ANZ

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:03:35 pm
content: Quote from: caall99 on November 13, 2014, 04:55:49 pmI should have written "Report a member". Go to eBay.com.au "Help&Contact" -> "Contact us" -> "Reporting a member" -> "Reporting a member" -> "Email us" -> emailQuote from: caall99 on November 13, 2014, 04:55:49 pmI got notice of a refund but not actual refund. I did not accept conditions of neither of those two options.Quote from: caall99 on November 13, 2014, 04:55:49 pmInteresting idea. I have already send a report, but I am not that familiar with eBay.com.au system and AU laws. Can somebody from Australia look into this?I would write 1) seller breached contract, 2) actual issue/problem is not disclosed, 3) strange stock numbers (2, 0, then 2 again?), 4) refunded (probably) but eBay shows unpaid item - what is this mess?, 5) message to personal email (check spam folder) with someabout lack of supply. All in all, strange seller activity, possibly against eBay rules.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:17:21 pm
content: Just got off the phone with ebay customer service and fraud departments.....the seller is obligated to fulfill the contract =)They are either going to ship us all PSU's or get shut down.....I will be contacting legal council to see if there is a way to force them to honor the sales contract. This is why I ordered $2 grand worth of them, I have a case.Someone is about to be in a lot of troubleI urge you all to call ebay and do the same as I did. I doubt we will ever see PSU's (never thought we would), but this "seller" is toast

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:28:57 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 06:17:21 pmLegally I don't think that's the case if it is very obviously an error.

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:32:18 pm
content: The fun stops for me when a mistake is leading to an organized torching of the seller.Stop it TunerSandwich, please.

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:33:20 pm
content: Hang on, some of us here took a chance to capitalise on some guys mistake and now we are all supposed to try to hang him out to dry... on the charge of using automated software no less!Regardless of the legal situation:(A) There's not a chance in hell they ship a single unit no matter what anyone does, given the number of units sold here they would be better off shutting up shop.(B) Some employee is running round trying to mop up a mess, why make things any harder for them?It was a long shot, a cheeky attempt to take advantage and it hasn't worked. No need to waste any more of anyone's time . So long as I get a refund I consider the matter closed.

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:37:19 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on November 13, 2014, 06:28:57 pmIn UK law a contract can be voided if there has been what is obviously a mistake from either party. I've no idea what the law is in Australia, which is where I suspect jurisdiction would lie. Going legal should always be the very last resort in any situation, and in the UK a judge will look very poorly indeed at anyone who refuses to negotiate before taking legal action.I'll keep emailing them for another day before heading down the report to ebay.au route.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:41:25 pm
content: Quote from: jancumps on November 13, 2014, 06:32:18 pmI agree that the seller doesn't have to "burn", but in my opinion there is a line between a pricing error caused by a bot, and a deliberate email containing nothing but lies. A line the seller clearly crossed.(Product is end of life, it's in backorder, we will deliver at 10% discount when available again, etc..). All of that was clearly just a poor excuse chosen by the seller to use, instead of "we messed up the prices, our apologies and we refund (the correct way) immediately no questions asked."Instead they communicate outside of ebay with dodgy url's, refund the wrong way causing unpaid items at alot of people, still offer the PSU but at 100 times the price (wasn't it EOL according to them?) and don't seem to admit they were wrong.. Thereshouldbe repercussions for this kind of behavior on eBay. (Like a official warning from eBay or such)

author: bingo600
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:44:10 pm
content: I don't expect to get the PSU's as this was "to good an offer" , and that's fine with me.But i do expect the seller to cancel my order , so i don't have a transaction listed in the ebay : Unpaid items section/Bingo

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:46:27 pm
content: Quote from: jancumps on November 13, 2014, 06:32:18 pmYou obviously don't understand what is going on here. Read the entire scenario before making assumptions. This is an obvious scam. They sent money back to us, left the items as "unpaid" on ebay, and are now trying to charge "additional fees" when we try to repay.Don't you dare try to say I am initiating a witch hunt. This isn't some humble guy just trying to make a living. This is an obvious scam, and I plan on taking all action possible to combat it.Read before you assume.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:50:27 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on November 13, 2014, 06:28:57 pmIt is not a legally binding issue IF the seller just states they made a mistake on pricing and submits an official cancellation request, through ebay. It IS a legal issue when they lie in an unsolicited email to our personal email accounts, refund the money paid, and leave the items as "unpaid" on our ebay accounts.Ebay rep said ebay supports my actions against the seller. I urge others to do the same. These ebay bot scams should be confronted. Is it worth my time, financially? No. Will we ever get Ketithly 2000 series PSU's? NO. However, from a moral and "what's right" standpoint, I feel it is my duty to spend the time to combat such fraudulent activities.It's my time, my money....if it makes ebay a safer place (even just slightly) then I feel I have done a good deed.

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:52:06 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 06:46:27 pmOK Sherlock, if he's scamming you why are you so keen to send him money?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:54:12 pm
content: I don't understand why everyone is getting so upset.It was obviously an error. Attempting to persue it is just greed bordering on fraud. There is no way anyone can claim to have really lost anything, or to have had a genuine believe it was genuine.

author: caall99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:55:01 pm
content: Because no one wants unpaid items on their ebay account... It's bad for the buyer

author: EV
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:55:22 pm
content: Quote from: bingo600 on November 13, 2014, 06:44:10 pmTry to mark the item as paid from "More actions" on "My eBay" list where the item is.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:56:11 pm
content: Quote from: bookaboo on November 13, 2014, 06:33:20 pmIt's not a bot error though....it's a scam to get people to try and buy these OFF EBAY or pay an additional fee on unpaid items on OUR ebay account. This isn't some innocent seller, or an employee error. It's a scam. Hope you all can see that. Those that tried to purchase already know what I am talking about.

author: caall99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:57:35 pm
content: I am happy to support tuner in pursuing justice. The lies and dishonesty made this personal for me. An honest response admitting to the mistake would have resulted in immediate forgiveness and resolution.And yes, I purchased two units and concur with tuners assessment of the situation.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:57:54 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on November 13, 2014, 06:54:12 pmBecause the seller is trying to force an unpaid item demerit against our accounts, by attempting to extort "additional fees" to complete the transaction.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 06:59:28 pm
content: Quote from: bookaboo on November 13, 2014, 06:52:06 pmWhy do you feel the need to be hostile towards me? "Sherlock"I am keen to expose a fraud to ebay, and remove the unpaid items from my ebay account*sigh*

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:02:51 pm
content: Quote from: EV on November 13, 2014, 06:55:22 pmbeen done, and ebay is supporting us....BUT the "seller" needs to feel some pain for trying to run ebay scams....sellers like this dilute the ebay marketplace for legitimate buyer/seller transactions.for example, let's say a legitimate person was trying to sell a Keithly model 2000 PSU on the same day, which they paid listing fees and time for. Their auction was potentially lost or devalued, due to this scam. This is the problem. I hope you can see it, and that people need to take action against such activity.Our time, our money. No one is being forced to do anything, but I feel it is worth my time to try and take action, because the seller is an obvious scammer and I feel I am doing a good deed by getting their account removed from ebay.You can see it however you like, but the facts are the facts.

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:05:13 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 06:59:28 pmI don't know if you are deluded or pretending to be deluded, either way good luck wasting your time.

author: caall99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:07:47 pm
content: Quote from: bookaboo on November 13, 2014, 07:05:13 pmBook, you haven't made any believable arguments as to why tuners arguments are false or deluded. You aren't convincing me...

author: EV
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:08:20 pm
content: Quote from: caall99 on November 13, 2014, 06:55:01 pmTry to mark the item as paid from "More actions" on "My eBay" list where the item is.

author: caall99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:10:39 pm
content: Quote from: EV on November 13, 2014, 07:08:20 pmI haven't been refunded yet, but I'll try when they do.

author: EV
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:15:30 pm
content: Quote from: caall99 on November 13, 2014, 07:10:39 pmIf it has been refunded there should appear mark £* or $* which means that the mayment has been refunded!

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:20:00 pm
content: Quote from: bookaboo on November 13, 2014, 07:05:13 pmThank you for wishing me luck. Being deluded and all, I suppose I need it.why do you feel the need to waste YOUR time to be hostile towards me? if you have some big issue, ignore me and the situation. I think you are just trying to be hostile to get some jollies. No need to reply any further. I understand your stance. You are entitled to an opinion, albeit "deluded".

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:24:11 pm
content: Quote from: EV on November 13, 2014, 07:08:20 pmIt doesn't work that way. Calling ebay does work though. Also I have a refund notice form pay pal, BUT the funds are being "withheld"again this isn't some poor innocent seller that made an honest mistake. If they just said "our bot made a mistake" I would accept the cancellation, and even be a nice guy and not leave any negatives against them.That is NOT the case though. It's a clear scam.

author: EV
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:30:01 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 07:24:11 pmSo you are not refunded yet!

author: Mr.B
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:36:32 pm
content: I have had the PayPal payment refunded and not showing 'unpaid items'.I have not had the other order refunded yet.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:37:58 pm
content: Quote from: EV on November 13, 2014, 07:30:01 pmNopethey also haven't cancelled or attempted refund on all of the items....according to ebay they are still shipping me 3 units by next week

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:39:35 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 12, 2014, 09:04:44 pmThis is not the EEVBlog crowd that I used to know. This is my worst day on this forum.

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:46:10 pm
content: Let's face few obvious facts.Seller does not admit a mistake and talks about some mysterious technical issues and supply problems.Listing for those DC supplies showed 2 items available, now 30-70 is sold. How can anyone sell 50 items while having two in stock?Unpaid item is an unpaid item. You cannot leave such traces of eBay fees avoidance everywhere - it hurts many (mostly buyers in this case).Now the same items are sold at 1000 fold bigger price. Is it legal? As always, somebody will say that high price is legal and it is between seller and buyerHowever, in reality it is almost always a strategy employed by a seller to go around eBay listing fees.For example(I don't do this), say I sell LEDs for $10 each, have inventory of 1000. When my inventory goes to zero, instead of removing a listing I increase LED price to $5000. If anyone buys it, it is easy to cancel.All of this points out that seller most likely does not have any stock of DC PS and is employing misleading advertising and/or tries to go around eBay rules.I am not with TunerSandwich (and his furiousness) that seller is a scam.All I am suggesting is that this seller comes clean - cancels all questionable orders (and removes unpaid items for unfortunate buyers), admits a mistake and plays by the rules.

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:51:25 pm
content: Yes a clean way out would be great.I am not the new sheriff in town (nope, not Reggie Hammond), and I have made many a mistake in my past that have been forgiven.I also have two nice supplies from our own KJDS.If you are reading this Auto-Parts, come clean and lets reset to zero...... and never the twain shall meet again.

author: andrija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:56:37 pm
content: I received my refund yesterday automatically. According to paypal it's been credited back to my VISA. Not sure where you guys are getting "funds withheld". I'll have to check my CC statement online later though to make sure.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 07:57:04 pm
content: Quote from: electr_peter on November 13, 2014, 07:46:10 pmahhh but that is not the case.....it's an obvious ploy to try and extort additional funds from the buyer....see below.....you can't mark as paid, or re-pay, without this additional fee....which is not explained.....furious is a bit far, annoyed is more accurate....I am finding some humor in this entire situation. I also feel good about getting such ebay sellers removed from ebay. They dilute the marketplace.like I said, no one has to be "on my side"....it's my time/money....and I feel like I am doing something good for the community, by attempting to remove fraudulent ebay sellersanyone is entitled to an opinion, but be open minded and put the pieces of this scam together....it is not an honest mistake, or bot gone wild....it's a legitimate scam (oxymoron?)the scam is an attempt to sell product off of ebay, or extort additional funds from a buyer, to avoid an unpaid item....in any event I have made ebay well aware of the situation, and they are on my side and agree with the course of action against the seller accountthe ebay representative I spoke with told me this isn't the first time this seller has done this...and ebay has a long record of this kind of activity.....which is a bit concerning in itself.....ebay knows what is going on here and hasn't removed this sellers account

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:00:22 pm
content: They also have not refunded 3 of the items....and it looks like i will be taking delivery soon

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:01:08 pm
content: Quote from: jancumps on November 13, 2014, 07:39:35 pmwhere is your sense of humor sir?

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:04:21 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 08:01:08 pmMine baulked at the chance some innocent person will be unemployed over this.

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:11:53 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 08:01:08 pmTrying to get a business out of business is not my kind of humour.I'll throw in a smiley though

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:12:53 pm
content: Quote from: Yago on November 13, 2014, 08:04:21 pmit's not an honest mistake....it's an outright scam....put the pieces together

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:15:18 pm
content: Quote from: jancumps on November 13, 2014, 08:11:53 pmit's a business, that violates ebay marketplace rules....these types of scams dilute the legitimate marketplace....I cited some potential examples further back in the thread. this does impact us all, because it might be that some honest seller was trying to sell a similar item, and was shut out of the market, by this scam listing....hope you can see the real chain of events and what is going on under the surface here....*puts on tin foil hat* *"It's all a conspiracy"!!*thanks for the smiley

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:15:54 pm
content: Quote

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:17:53 pm
content: Quote from: Mr.B on November 13, 2014, 07:36:32 pmThis is what it looks like for me. (Below.) I was refunded (PayPal). The order is still marked as unpaid, though I'm not asked to pay a higher amount if I attempt to do the payment. Again, this seems to vary between people. I wonder what I should do next...

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:21:36 pm
content: Quote from: Yago on November 13, 2014, 08:04:21 pmIn my professional career I have done several mistakes that caused costs in some way to my employers and involved customers.I hope for the person that made this mistake that his company shows the same adult reaction as what my companies, and their customers, did.

author: caall99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:27:19 pm
content: Ever since my purchase from street-autoparts i have been receiving "Your Account Paypal Has Been Limited" emails in my spam folder, from <paypal@support.com>. I have received three of them so far... coincidence?

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:54:46 pm
content: That annoys me is their bulk listings are now polluting some of my other electronic related searches, with hundreds of matches.

author: JoeN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:55:01 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 06:46:27 pmIt could still be a hijacked account. We will see.

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 08:56:36 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 07:57:04 pmI do not see a deliberate scam in these actions. eBay system is not that transparent with unpaid/cancelled delay items. You are trying to pay again, the listing/price/conditions may be different. It is eBay, do not expect that every issue and payment status to be clear and transparent 100% (it works somewhat though).Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 07:57:04 pmYour intent is not acceptable to me. I am not with you at this issue in a sense that I do not think this is a scam and do not think this is funny.Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 07:57:04 pmPlease describe a template of scam your are talking about (who is scammed, how it works) and how seller in question may be involved.Given the facts, I do not think these is a deliberate scam (breach of eBay policy? - maybe).

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 09:54:26 pm
content: This is getting silly. @Tuner has some kind of vendetta or perhaps they're just bored.I don't think these bots ruin the eBay experience. I always sort by price. If some joker wants to sell $11 resistors... all the power to them and whoever buys them. Sounds like a good business model!Even if I did think they made it harder to search, I don't think that they deserve to be treated this way.That being said, they cannot go behind the back of eBay in this instance if it hurts the buyers. (Normally I wouldn't care. I've helped sellers cancel items after I bought them in person, to save them 10% on the fees. That doesn't hurt me, so I don't mind.)I will cancel my orders shortly and request a refund.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 10:18:56 pm
content: Ebay has confirmed with me, that there is a pattern on this sellers account....in which this exact type of activity is ongoing.I'm not here for approval or permission. You guys are free to see things your way, and i am free to see them mine, but this is an obvious scam.....if you read through the posts here you will see the lies sent to buyers, via private (unsolicited) emails. Claiming the unit is no longer in production and un-available.If you are open minded and add up the facts, you will see what is going on here. If you choose to make a per-conception about this, and think this is "just some honest guy who made a mistake"....then you are fooling yourself.Like I said ebay looked into the account when I called, and said there is a string of complaints and transactions which display the same behavior. Ebay seems to think it's not ok, or at least that is what their representative told me on the phone.I have no "vendetta", but would like to see this seller removed form the marketplace. Their activity is ill-conceived and fraudulent.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 10:33:08 pm
content: It's odd that eBay would say that. They're normally extremely tight-lipped about things like that. Saying things like that might constitute a breach of contract or reasonable expectation of privacy for a business seller.It's not an obvious scam.* Seller's bot lists one set of Keithley meters by scraping RS/Farnell/Digikey/Mouser catalogue. It does this accidentally because perhaps they're filed in the wrong category. It lists these items at a ridiculously low price due to some kind of bug.* Over 200 orders are made. The seller is on the hook for at least 10% in fees, which includes shipping. Average shipping charge seems to be at least $50AUD. So a reasonable guess is AU$1200 in eBay fees plus listing costs. On eBay the fee is charged on shipping and the item.* To avoid a bad rating, the seller refunds directly. This is probably against eBay rules. They should have refunded through eBay. However they obviously determined the hit against their rating was worth losing ~AU$1k in fees. Still not a scam, just breaking eBay rules.* The sellerliesto customers about the item. Still not a scam. It's not a scam because lying about the item being unavailable isn't defrauding the buyer of anything or tricking them into giving further money. It's just a lie. Both options result in a 100% refund - one option signs the buyer up to a newsletter to give them a future 10% discount on the actual item. Meh, taking best advantage of a bad situation I suppose.Nothing the seller has done counts as a scam. They've been shady and lied, I agree. They've broken the rules. But they haven't stolen money, or committed any kind of fraud, or played some kind of confidence trick. Therefore I think your actions are completely unjustified and that instead you are becoming more of an a-hole than the seller ever was. They do not deserve this at all.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 11:09:32 pm
content: One thing I find interesting is to go back to the initial pages of this thread and see the lighthearted atmosphere that took over everybody: we took a shot at it and, if it was a scam, we would be refunded due to the eBay/Paypal and everything will be honky dory... O0As several pointed out, this is clearly an error on the seller's end and in my opinion some common sense is to be expected. Who knows who sent those unfortunate e-mails? Was it some kid working on the seller's "IT department" that got scared and did not put much thought before hitting send? We all have done similar things in the past, with or without financial damage.I also agree that TunerSandwich's mischievousness is becoming too damaging.

author: TunerSandwich
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 11:32:36 pm
content: The seller has not refunded purchases. Again if you read through the entire thread here, you will clearly see what is going on. I fell as if I am beating a dead horse, describing the scenario over and over....when it's clearly spelled out in this entire thread.This is a scam to try and sell there PSU's at 10% off MSRP , OFF EBAY.You all can think it's mischief on my part if you like, and that is entirely your rightful opinion (if you like), but it is NOT coincidental with FACT.Look at facts. Again I am not trying to gain support or approval, but if you think taking action against a seller who is willfully lying to the buyers is me "being an asshole", then I suggest you re-evaluate the term.If it's such a big deal, and waste of "precious time"....why do you keep the thread going?This is typically how these long winded forum posts go. It's a bit of a pissing contest between people, who are not directly involved, to grandstand and point fingers. Regardless of facts presented. If you want to spend some time offering constructive solutions, that benefit the folks involved in the transactions, feel free....Is the suggestion that this entire course of action, by the seller, be ignored? That seems rather silly....because the seller will just be back up to their tricks again (if no one does anything) and will continue to dilute the marketplace, and continue to try and solicit buyers through private emails....using ebay listings as their "source lists"shame on them....you don't have to agree

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2014, 11:38:38 pm
content: QuoteI didn't take a shot at itThis ebay sale was obviously heading for a car crash. The seller's awful feedback wrt refunds, the stupidly low price with free delivery, the fact the seller tarted their direct bank payment details in the auction for quicker delivery (and off ebay sales?) was enough for me to steer clear.I am amazed how many people still went for it.

author: kwass
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 03:12:16 am
content: QuoteI was one of those people who "went for it" and bought two of them. While I have no idea what's really going on with this seller, I did get an email apology (see below) and refunds on both of them (one yesterday, one today). I used a credit card on Paypal because I knew from past scammy ebay deals that I would have no trouble getting a full refund by just calling my credit card company.For the record, here's the email (via ebay) I received:QuoteSo, maybe it was hacked ebay account.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 03:18:16 am
content: Once in a blue moon, these things don't get noticed until after a day's worth of shipping. Oh well. With ebay's buyer protection it was worth the shot!Refund received today.(as an ebay seller, it was nice to be on the other side of the fence!)

author: mtdoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 04:30:07 am
content: Got my refund today. No big whoop. It was worth a shot.

author: briselec
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 05:39:38 am
content: At least they gave me good feedback"Great communication. A pleasure to do business with."

author: Vito_R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 07:21:32 am
content: That's going to be in contrast to the tons of negative feedback they will soon be getting.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 07:23:53 am
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 11:32:36 pmNO. It is not.They probably never will have these PSUs. They will probably never sell them.They simply offer a way to sign up for a newsletter to receive a coupon in the possibly distant future to get a PSU for 10% off. This is offered probably to simply appease people. Nothing more. You are over-analysing the situation here.Besides... You do not get to decide to punish someone for speculated future actions.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 07:38:39 am
content: Quote from: Vito_R on November 14, 2014, 07:21:32 amSee you guys in the feedback coments!

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 08:18:20 am
content: Wow, what a thread!Well I have just had my 2nd payment refunded, I marked my ebay item as Payment sent so I do not get a mark against my account.That's the end of it for me, no harm done, nothing ventured nothing gained.If I do get a strike against my name I will speak to ebay to remove it.Imagine this happened to one of us, we would be crapping ourselves.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 11:55:24 am
content: Quote from: G0HZU on November 13, 2014, 11:38:38 pmTo me it was more like a scooter crash...Quote from: TheBay on November 14, 2014, 08:18:20 amSame just happened for me.

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 11:59:44 am
content: I Emailed them telling them that I will cancel and walk away from this when I am confident all has been returned to as it was before the transaction, financially and account wise.CBA anymore, misery and upset over the holidays are not what I want from Santa, for me or others.

author: ted572
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 12:35:58 pm
content: .

author: tjb1
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 12:48:35 pm
content: Quote from: TunerSandwich on November 13, 2014, 08:15:18 pmSomeone mentioned earlier that these are $1k items, how would an item listed as $10 shut out legitimate items? Do you seriously consider a $1k item for $10 as being real?? Any smart person would just put the minimum cost at $50 or so and suddenly all the crap is gone. No one lost out on sales, at least not from someone they would want purchasing from them.Can you share your ebay name? I'd like to block you so I'm not reamed dry if I pass my handling time by 10 minutes.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 05:54:39 pm
content: QuoteYes. I have nothing to do with this and have received many of these emails over the last few days.

author: TheBay
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 07:09:09 pm
content: I think this thread needs to be closed down now, it's a waste of the SQL databaseNo one will get this PSU, they probably never have or never will sell this item at any price, it's just an error. Hopefully we all have our funds back and was worth a punt in the beginning.Looking back I am glad I didn't get one as this might have ruined someone's business and life.

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 08:56:11 pm
content: I have got these Paypal phishing messages... to my regular e-mail address, and none for the address I use both for eBay and PayPal. Very much unrelated to this seller, I think.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 09:13:58 pm
content: Quote from: nitro2k01 on November 14, 2014, 08:56:11 pmI get 2-3 phishing emails each month. I always forward them to the reporting address of the company being impersonated.I have rather low regard for companies that either don't offer reporting or don't care (indistinguishable).Those companies get pushed down in the hierarchy of who I will do business with in the future.Post # 1000

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 09:34:13 pm
content: Hi guys, I'm pleased to announce I received my $11 Keithley from ebay today. As irrefutable evidence, here it is, I took the snap while it was floating in all its glory above my psychedelic in your dreams workbench.Please don't knock honest to god ebay sellers when they can meet their promises and deliver.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 09:38:26 pm
content: QuoteThat may not be a brilliant idea: there is nothing that company can do about them, and if everyone forwards the message they will have a huge metric sh'ton of them. Indeed, one of the worst effects of spam is automated bounce messages going back to the (impersonated and innocent) originator.There is even a special DNS anti-spam measure designed to combat it:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_FrameworkPlease stop forwarding the messages. It does no-one any good and you are manually breaking the SPF system.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 09:51:16 pm
content: IME, most big online companies have special email addresses where they ENCOURAGE people to forward phishing or other malware email messages.For example:spoof@ebay.comspoof@paypal.comspoofing@amazon.comabuse@bankofamerica.comand many others.....And many of them actively reply and follow up on all reports to stop the phishing expedition.It is in their best interest to counteract as much of this as possible.

author: andrija
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2014, 11:52:05 pm
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on November 14, 2014, 09:51:16 pm+1My bank does the same thing and often reiterates it on their website and all their communications.

author: bronson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 01:32:05 am
content: Quote from: tom66 on November 14, 2014, 07:23:53 amI don't get it. If they will never have or sell these PSUs, then isn't listing them -- by definition -- a scam?

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 04:37:27 am
content: Quote from: bronson on November 15, 2014, 01:32:05 amIt's either a scam, or a mistake. If they're making money from charging people and not delivering the product, that would definitely be a scam.

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 11:30:09 am
content: I got a message fro EBay that there are sorting the problem.Asked for my order to be cancelled and struck from my record.All seems to be drawing to a close now, thankfully.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 02:32:41 pm
content: Quote from: bronson on November 15, 2014, 01:32:05 amThey are a re-shipper. So if someone bought a PSU from them for $2,000 then they -would- have the item. They'd just buy it from Mouser/RS/etc and ship it on.If they list it and don't supply it, I don't consider it a scam because they refunded the money. Because it's obviously an error. If they maybe sent a scam email (like in Dave's example - anatomy of eBay scam) trying to actually defraud someone, then it would be a scam.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 04:08:42 pm
content: They finally refunded me too (yesterday, but was away from a computer). But they are still playing games... by (still) just refunding via PayPal giving me the familiar unpaid item at eBay...So, I paid againUntil those PEBKAC's do it the right way and cancel it from eBay, which will probably hurttheirinternal rating. Instead of hurtingminenow because of a errortheymade..

author: bingo600
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 08:01:38 pm
content: Quote from: Yago on November 15, 2014, 11:30:09 amStrange !I got a message from ebay thet they can't cancel my order , only the seller can (i suppose its not true) ,but i have it in my ebay messaging system.They couldn't do more , but would gladly assist in a criminal investigation if contacted by the police.I won't go that far , i just want the seller to cancel my ebay transaction (and not just refund me via PP) , that would be fine by me.I got another message from seller , when writing that i need them to cancel.QuoteBut why does he need IT dept. for cancelling the order/Bingo

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 08:06:17 pm
content: I haven't received anything stating EBay have or will cancel the order.Just assumed they would, doh!

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2014, 08:33:31 pm
content: Oh joy!My Paypal account is now unusable and marked as possible suspicious activity, and I go around in circles resetting my password and getting security codes texted to me.The two transactions are now marked as "UNPAID" on ebay.Great.

author: daveshah
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 16, 2014, 06:38:35 pm
content: They clearly haven't fixed their mess yet, as I found this while searching eBay:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LATTICE-SEMICONDUCTOR-LATTICE-ECP2-MICO32-DSP-FPGA-DEV-BOARD-LFE2-50E-D-EVN-/191414856729

author: Retep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2014, 08:53:17 pm
content: In the "Others" section of their their shop they still have got well over 300 pages with electronic parts all priced AU $11.14. If that mess has to be cleaned up manually I'd say their "IT department" will have their hands full for quite a while...

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 16, 2014, 11:12:52 pm
content: Just got another payment returned and as last time, the order is still in eBay (as unpaid...) so I paid yet againAlso send them some questions and remarks about a part of their email ( "I just got an email from suppliers advising that the manufacturers no longer make this item/model" ) and the fact they are currently selling it on their eBay store (at $10.000 ...)

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 12:03:39 am
content: Quote from: daveshah on November 16, 2014, 06:38:35 pmI just sent them a question about their auction. I asked them if this is another mistake like the power supplies. A asked them if their system is still out of control, and whether their account had been hacked.

author: Mr.B
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 02:28:09 am
content: I questioned them about cancelling the sale, rather than me having an unpaid item.This was their response.Quote

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 07:34:55 am
content: Quote from: Mr.B on November 17, 2014, 02:28:09 amI got an identical response to a completely different question.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 11:51:26 am
content: I got the same response too (and more). I had send them a message complaining about the E.O.L. excuse and them still offering at $10k. And the wrong way of refunding causing me to have unpaid items in my eBay account. This was their full reply:QuoteThey finally seem to acknowledge their mistake (which is what I was after, wasn't expecting ever getting a Keithley). Al tough I have my doubts about the parts that says eBay AU are having troubles... Seems a bit familiar (and their IT department fixing it).Any Aussies that can confirm or deny this?

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 12:00:57 pm
content: All normal here.I was on it a bit over the last few day's including today.Is it at all possible that he is telling you a fib ?Muttley

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 12:21:52 pm
content: I would say it is highly likely he's lying yeah. It is what they have been doing for the past week.. But everything else in the message seemslegit, so I wanted to give them a chance pending someone confirming the eBay having problems fib

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 12:44:54 pm
content: Their problem is that this mess will destroy their ebay seller rating beyond repair (for 12 months anyway)ebay are incredibly strict on sellers, just a few fractions of a % poor ratings or cancelled orders can lead you to have poor ratings, the feedback figure is pretty meaningless they catch you all sorts of ways.This guy is in big trouble as all these cancelled orders will probably leave him "below standard" and they will limit the $ amount of stuff he can list, for a bot/scrape account that relies on mass listings that's pretty bad!I wouldn't panic, ebay will sort all the buyers accounts out. It might be hassle but that's what you get for trying to work the system.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 01:14:56 pm
content: I really should keep well outside of the crime scene tape.But I have seen, no bullshit, an ebay seller listing $5( FIVE DOLLAR ) multimeters for the bargain price of$15.000 ( FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ) and not justonce, he list's them all the time.Wonder what would happen if say a kid with down syndromeclicked buy now without suppervision, what's Ebay do then ?.Scarey bloddy stuff.Muttley

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 01:26:51 pm
content: QuoteWhat would happen if that kid clicked and bought a $15K multimeter that was worth $15K? He's still down that amount with a useless bit of kit, so what makes that a legit sale and the other not?It's not Ebay's problem (though no doubt Twitter would make it so eventually). It's the problem of whoever is meant to be looking after the kids.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 01:50:51 pm
content: The unknown variant is what is enforceable without penalty,and what is considered a reasonable transaction under law.The example I put to you was nothing more than a disgustingebay parasitic prick who continually puts himself in a primeposition to prey on the less informed and vulnerable.Muttley

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 02:32:17 pm
content: Or a vendor with a temporary lack of stock who doesn't want to pay relisting fees so prices the item at a value no-one will buy at until he gets new stock.

author: tjb1
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 02:43:39 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on November 17, 2014, 01:50:51 pmThis was already covered much earlier in the thread, they raise the price through the roof when they have no stock.

author: Vito_R
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 04:23:29 pm
content: Is this thread still going on

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2014, 07:37:48 pm
content: Quote from: daveshah on November 16, 2014, 06:38:35 pmThey have raised the price to AU $2,240.00 and listed it as "out of stock". So maybe somebody is minding the store(?)Of course, they never responded to my question, and the listing shows "No questions or answers have been posted about this item."

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2014, 01:48:43 am
content: I finally got a reply back from street-autoparts:QuoteBut they are back at it again. Listing multiple items that have nothing to do with auto parts, and at absurdly low default prices. It would be interesting to know what kind of a system does such absurd foolishness and apparently is out of control for days or weeks.They have 167,498 items listed for auction/sale!

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2014, 02:04:45 am
content: But then, lest you think that their out-of-control system lists only expensive items for absurdly low prices, consider this listing:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TE-CONNECTIVITY-SMA-JAM-NUT-2-332004-0-/191401178680?pt=AU_Electronics_Wholesale_Electronics&hash=item2c90663638Step right up, folks. Up for auction is a SINGLE Jam Nut with 1/4-36 UNS-2B threads.This is something that you can buy a bag of 100 for around $5-10But our friends at street-parts are listinga single nut for AU $16.74.And shipping for this item which weighs a tiny fraction of an ounce, will costAU $61.50for "AusPost Express Courier International"So, indeed their "system" is wildly out of control and apparently listing random items at random prices.if I were Ebay, I would suspend their "store" until they got their act together.

author: AwArD_RzD
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2014, 12:59:06 pm
content: Got a new message from them when i asked why they took so long to cancel the order on Ebay.Hi,We already called eBay about this, they're also having system glitch.It will be cancelled once the glitch has been fixedRest assured that you wont get strike us unpaid itemRegards,Riyah- street-autopartsSo Ebay have a glitch too.... yeah.... i never expected to get the PSU so i was not surprised when this got downhill but for now they seem to blame everything and nothing move... Got my refund on Paypal (but missing 4$, fee or exchange rate maybe) so i'm not worried about my $$$ but i didn't know how it was hard to get some help on Ebay when this kind of stuff happen. At first i wanted to give no feedback since i didn't expected anything from this sale but now i think it's a good thing to leave a negative one to let other know how pathetic a sale can be with this seller...

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2014, 02:39:32 pm
content: When I have had to get a refund from a dodgy deal (obviously fake seller without the product, using photos from a different auction), Ebay wouldn't do a thing until after the expected delivery date, presumably to ensure that it really was a bad transaction.Perhaps that's the problem here? Ebay won't cancel the sale on your say-so this soon, and maybe the vendor is running up against a similar issue on his side.Having said that, I won a cheap laptop for 50p and unsurprisingly the vendor turned out to have sold it elsewhere the day before and 'forgotten' it was listed on Ebay. He refunded me and the sale remained unpaid until... well, it probably still is. Doesn't appear to have done me any harm, and at least I was the allowed to give him a serious neg (his only one, but every one counts nowadays).

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2014, 05:25:55 pm
content: I had a similar (if not identical) reply about the "glitch" and that it was eBay's problem.I am not sure they're being wholly honest: I spent 45 minutes on the phone to eBay on this on Monday as I had five unpaid items. EBay say the seller didn't use the correct procedure to cancel the order, apparently the seller has to get an authorisation from eBay to cancel a sale.So either the seller wass trying to avoid getting a bad vibe by cancelling the Patpal transaction only, or they genuinely were trying to refund the money right away without understanding the implications.What with the 45 minutes on the phone to eBay and 20 minutes to Paypal to get my account unlocked, it's not been a fun transaction!

author: AwArD_RzD
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2014, 11:52:54 pm
content: It seem Ebay removed some of the seller negative feedback, mine included. So it seem to be working in the favour of the seller.Edit : Ebay remove all the negative feedback from the Keithley listing, i counted 7 at first, 1 hours later 5 was deleted, now it seem to have only 1 left. Very strange situation.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2014, 01:35:15 am
content: Street-autoparts still have 167,065 items for sale, most of which appear to have nothing to do with auto parts.The Ebay statistics show:Vehicle Parts & Accessories: 32,219Sound & Vision: 134,841And they are still showing tens of thousands of items from trivial nuts and bolts to high-end development systems for completely random prices, uncorrelated to the actual value of the items.

author: AwArD_RzD
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2014, 12:31:56 pm
content: i think if found why the negative feedback is removed like that, the seller use a trick and i think there how.From Ebay seller update fall 2013Automatic safeguardsThe new Feedback Removal policy clearly outlines when eBay will automatically remove feedback and low ratings or award 5-star ratings. In general:Negative or neutral feedback and low ratings are removed automatically when our information shows that the feedback was left by a buyer who, for example, didn't pay, was suspended, or shows a pattern of leaving low feedback.So the Seller don't cancel on ebay but refund with paypal, tell you ebay have a glitch and do nothing so all the negative feedback will be automatically removed by the system since the item is not paid by everyone !! clever no ??it is possible ?? anyone who sell on ebay can tell me if you can do something like that ??

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 20, 2014, 12:51:45 pm
content: Sounds like a legit possibility. Especially since people who still "have" paid (like me, since attempt #3 on sunday) won't leave a negative feedback just yet, to give them a chance to cancel the sale the right way. Tried to make an eBay case out of it but I have to wait until "estimated delivery" on friday (next week)

author: macboy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2014, 04:20:29 pm
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on November 20, 2014, 01:35:15 amNonsense, who wouldn't pay $220 for a 10-turn potentiometer (value ~$10), or $11.14 for TI zigbee development kit (value ~$700). How has ebay not shut down these clowns.

author: macboy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2014, 03:32:42 pm
content: Wow. I just notification from ebay that one of my orders has been cancelled. I didn't think I would see that.

author: AwArD_RzD
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2014, 03:22:22 pm
content: Quote from: macboy on November 21, 2014, 03:32:42 pmStill got nothing from ebay. I just sent out another message asking to cancel the order. At least he lost his top sellers rating.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 23, 2014, 10:34:09 pm
content: I have just received my payment back, yet again (and yes, direct via PayPal, again, leaving a unpaid item in eBay, again). Took them a full week this time (made it last monday, was the 3th time). Send them a couple of messages about why they keep canceling the wrong way, and that it is not my problem if it hurts their internal rating cause it is their system that messed up.So, I did the adult thing to do.... Paid again (number 4) and send messages to both them (again) and eBay complaining about these joker methods

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 02:18:25 am
content: They delete my negative feedback. How the heck are they able to pull that off?

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 02:28:38 am
content: Quote from: george graves on November 24, 2014, 02:18:25 amEbay magic.. Feedback from unpaid items is deleted automatically (within 24 hours or so). So by refunding direct using PayPal and not from eBay, item gets to be unpaid causing feedback to be auto-wipedCouple of hours ago spotted about ~6 or 7 negative comments regarding the Keithley's. Now there is only one left..

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 06:16:45 am
content: What happens if you mark the item paid? I did that a few days ago, but have not left feed back yet.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 06:37:03 am
content: Quote from: CrashO on November 24, 2014, 02:28:38 amDirty bastards. Give 'em hell.

author: Falcon69
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 09:55:17 pm
content: eBay needs to fix that. That's not right. The seller should receive a negative feedback and keep on their record. They deceived the buyer, and when called on it, they manipulated the system in their favor. They wasted the buyer's time, and in reversal, placed bad eBay stats with the buyer, making eBay think that the buyer has an unpaid item. eBay now thinks that the buyer, NOT the Seller, is in the wrong on the transactions. This is very wrong.But, then again, maybe eBay has designed it this way. There will always be buyers, but not sellers, and Sellers is where eBay make their money. I too also have had bad feedback removed in favor of the seller, when in fact, the customer service representative of eBay who answered when I called, admitted that the seller was in fault. The representative said the decision could not be reversed. But, then again, why should they. I'm ust one person who buys, whereas the seller sells thousands of products, making eBay lots of money.

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 10:29:18 pm
content: Quote from: Falcon69 on November 24, 2014, 09:55:17 pmIf you look at this thread again, buyers that were 'deceived' - say from page 6 on - know it was a mistake from the seller and they tried to take advantage of that.You can read that by the comments made when they announce the purchase in this thread.

author: Creep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 11:08:36 pm
content: The people all seem rather furious and frustrated about the sellers actions (while the do seem rather shady), but if we look at the bigger picture: every last one of the buyers is also at fault for this situation a little bit. You all placed the orders knowing it was a mistake on the sellers part and that it could potentially sabotage the sellers (or their IT departments, no idea about their hierarchy) lives. You people purposefully put the seller in this whole fiasco, of course they are going to try to save their skins one way or another, their jobs are on the line.P.S. I'm in no way supporting the sellers actions. I just think the hate should stop or atleast be tonned down a bit.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 11:13:40 pm
content: Quote from: Creep on November 24, 2014, 11:08:36 pmI don't see any evidence that they have done anything to stop their out-of-control process.The continue listing new random items, completely unrelated to their business, and for unbelievably random prices.At this point, Ebay is an unindicted co-conspirator, IMHO for apparently allowing them free-reign business as usual.

author: engineer_in_shorts
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 11:23:11 pm
content: Anyone who games the system should expect to get gamed back.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 11:30:44 pm
content: Quote from: engineer_in_shorts on November 24, 2014, 11:23:11 pmThat applies all three ways: the vendor - the buyers - and Ebay themselves.

author: Creep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 11:44:20 pm
content: Well if they still haven't corrected the prices of atleast shut down their store until everything is sorted out then yes, I see how that is quite the issue. Sorry, didn't realise that. My point was that to a degree, the buyers are at fault for the situation aswell. Feels like some people here are sore that they didn't get the "bargain" they were hoping for even though they knew that the chances of it being a legitimate and intended sale were way below 1%.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 24, 2014, 11:45:09 pm
content: Quote from: Creep on November 24, 2014, 11:08:36 pmThis goes way deeper then just not accepting an error. I expected it to be a mistake, ofcourse I did.I also expected there to be one of either two results. First one being a refund from the seller.Second one being a refund using eBay/PayPal and their buyer protection systems. Never did I expect the seller to deliver a PSU.Then why did I order it? Because sellers like this, who list 150.000+ items using automated systems, without having a single item in stock, don't deserve our mercy.They are the reasons why eBay has turned into a steaming pile of dog turd where it gets harder and harder to filter out real "bargains" from the automated dealers who just use it as a easy webshop.Now, if they would have cancelled the order and refunded the payment, all would have been fine. No negative feedback or anything from me, done.Instead, they keep lying, making up stuff, and refunding without cancelling the order. Proving they are the douche-bags we all expected them to be.Just to humor you, I just went trough my mails/messages with them and selected the interesting stuff..Marked my thoughts on them in italic. (these are not the full messages, just the relevant stuff)13 nov [eBay message from streetautoparts]This is a courtesy email to let you know that the order you placed online on 13th of November 2014 will not be process.Your order will be cancelled and you will be refunded in full if any payment has been made.They are cancelling the order and refunding, was to be expected, fine.13 nov [E-mail from streetautoparts to my paypal email-address)I just got an email from suppliers advising that the manufacturers no longer make this item/modelSincere apologies for the inconvenience caused and please select from one of the options below. { showing 2 buttons }Keithley stopped making them? Really? Nope...And Asking me to click on a button leading to their site regarding my eBay purchase? Not going to happen..13 nov [Send them a email replying theirs]Keithley still produces the power supply, it is not discontinued and major suppliers such as Farnell and RS still supply it, and worldwide availability is just fine.Ps: I won’t click on any links outside of eBay as this voids eBay regulations. Please use the ebay messaging system for things like that.Never got any reply14 nov [PayPal notification]Payment has been refunded15 nov [I made the payment again]Order was stil open, they had not delivered the cancellation promised in their 13nov message, so I paid again.16 nov [PayPal notification]Payment has been refunded again16 nov [I send a eBay message to them]you can keep trying to refund directly through PayPal, but I will keep repaying, as doing so outside of the eBay system hurts my internal eBay score by leaving a item "unpaid". It is your responsibily to obey the binding conditions of the eBay sale. If you do not plan on doing so, you can try making a cancellation (the official way) via eBay. Not refunding without cancelling the sale, and giving me a negative ebay creditscore because of it16 nov [I made the payment again]Order was stil open, they still hadn't delivered the cancellation promised in their 13nov message, so I paid again.17 nov [eBay message from streetautoparts]A cancellation link will be sent to your account, hopefully all the transactions will be refunded and cancelled within 24-48 hours.Also we just called eBay and inquired why it's showing as unpaid item, I was advised that 5 sites of eBay including Australia is having technical issue and they're IT department is currently trying to resolve the issue.You will not get a strike us unpaid item.Never got the link, Never found any evidence supporting their claim about eBay AU having issues, I will get a strike for the unpaid item23 nov [PayPal notification]Payment has been refunded again23 nov [I made the payment again]Order was stil open, they still hadn't delivered the cancellation promised in their 17nov message, so I paid again.23 nov [I send a eBay message to them]If you want to deliver, deliver. If you don't plan on doing so, cancel the eBay transaction but do NOT make a direct refund using PayPal leaving the item unpaid in eBay.So please, take responsibily for your systems messing up, cancel the transaction the right way, and accept the bad (internal) eBay rating this will automatically generate.Offcourse, payment has been re-made yet again (4th time) because I still have a buying agreement with you..24nov [eBay message from streetautopars]A cancellation link will be sent on your account and your refund is being processed.So now I am yet again waiting, for either the refund yet again, or them finally canceling the order and refunding using eBay.. The thing that bugs me about these jokers is they keep lying, making up the excuses, still are listing over 150k items (1 bolt for $15, really?) and are still abusing the system by not canceling order the way they should, leading to eBay removing any feedback generated by them.

author: MadTux
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2014, 12:22:52 am
content: I'd call it a day and accept my refund instead of getting a box of stones delivered and then fight for refund by court in another country and maybe even loose money to this idiot.There are enough idiots in the world and naturally some find their way to ebay. Best thing is to stop dealing with them and the problem solves itself, since only idiots buy 11$ bolts from bricks like streetautoparts. Since listing items on ebay costs money, the problem will solve itself sooner or later if he doesn't sell anything

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2014, 12:29:00 am
content: Quote from: MadTux on November 25, 2014, 12:22:52 amYou seem to have missed the part where the vendor does not cancel the sale in Ebay as they are obligated to.

author: MadTux
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2014, 12:30:27 am
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on November 25, 2014, 12:29:00 amBut I rather have an unpaid item then a 50++$ box of stones

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2014, 12:39:31 am
content: I have watched this thread since the beginning and even made comment that it was likely an error and a refund would result. Most who bought the units did so in the full expectation that they would not get such a unit for $11. Common sense tells you that.I have watched this debacle develop into a major discussion and that is what a forum is for so no worries. No harm done by such.I do have a comment to make though...... ask yourself how old you are and how much longer you expect to live, then consider the time you are wasting chasing this seller and how much that continues to cost you ? You will not get that time back and you could have been having more fun doing something else instead. We are all terminal, do not waste your life chasing fools or you will become a fool as wellOf course if you like wasting your life on such pursuits then fill yer boots and be happyMe ? I prefer to focus on life's positives.AuroraYou have one life......live it.

author: Falcon69
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2014, 03:21:29 am
content: The problem here is not the fact the item is not being shipped as paid for, regardless of whether it was in error of price when posted on eBay, though, I doubt this company ever had the item to sell, based on the other auctions it is running. The problem is the fact that these buyers are getting an unpaid item mark on their eBay rating. It was the seller who posted the item, and instead of refunding the money the correct way, so the buyer does not receive a bad rating on their part, the seller is skating around that and found a loop hole to protect them. Them who made a mistake in the first place. I don't care if it was a legitimate priced auction or not, or something else. It was the seller's mistake, yes, but the buyer shouldn't suffer consequences for it.This upsets me greatly. All would be fine if they just refunded the money through eBay, but seller is obviously refusing to do that by continually making excuses and refunding via PayPal directly, leaving a bad unpaid item mark on the buyers.This is wrong, period.

author: idpromnut
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2014, 04:14:55 am
content: I bought on of these, had the emails, got the refund, and just got a message from Ebay that the auction/sale has been officially cancelled by the seller. All loose ends tied up.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2014, 04:40:32 am
content: Quote from: idpromnut on November 25, 2014, 04:14:55 amWell.... They still have 135,426 items listed in "Consumer Electronics". Including the same old items worth 10-50x the price they are listing.Even legitimate sellers of electronic items have only a fraction of that number of items on Ebay. These people are certifiably insane.

author: idpromnut
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2014, 01:25:44 pm
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on November 25, 2014, 04:40:32 amTrue, I should have said that from a personal perspective on my Ebay account, all loose ends have been tied up. I still dislike the shotgun Ebay-auction thing they have going as well.

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2014, 06:40:27 am
content: Got a message from EBay:"The order was cancelled by the seller".

author: bingo600
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2014, 12:35:08 pm
content: Same hereGot a message from EBay:"The order was cancelled by the seller".That was actually all i wanted from the moment seller wouldn't deliver.I never really expected to see any PSU's , but did expect seller to cancel the sale./Bingo

author: AwArD_RzD
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2014, 12:37:23 pm
content: They cancelled my order too, 1 day before we can open a no received claim, coincidence.. i think not hahaha...

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 27, 2014, 01:12:37 am
content: And I just got another refund (number 4) by them, still no cancellation... I am giving them until tonight (GMT), so about 16 more hours, until I am paying again.Simply because, they are required to by eBay, and the wanks promised it to me 3 times and didn't do so (to be expected offcourse):13 November, eBay message from street-autoparts: "Your order will be cancelled and you will be refunded in full if any payment has been made."17 November, eBay message from street-autoparts: "A cancellation link will be sent to your account, hopefully all the transactions will be refunded and cancelled within 24-48 hours."24 November, eBay message from street-autoparts: A cancellation link will be sent on your account and your refund is being processed."

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 27, 2014, 11:54:37 am
content: Never thought it would happen, But it's finally over."The seller canceled your order"Time do go back to business as usual

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2014, 02:27:10 pm
content: There appear to be a few Ebay black-lists on the interweb. But all the examples I have found (in 3-4 minutes of "research") are for sellers to block problem buyers. I didn't see ANY mechanisms for warning buyers of problem sellers.

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2014, 01:09:37 am
content: IIRC it's part of ebay's TOS that you don't review buyers or sellers outside of ebay. They have a ban on black lists.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2014, 01:20:32 am
content: Quote from: george graves on November 30, 2014, 01:09:37 amThey apparently are good at banning seller black-lists. But there appear to be several black-lists of buyers thriving out there on the interweb.

author: chickenHeadKnob
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2014, 08:17:53 pm
content: In the last day or so I have been searching for STM32F103v (100 pin lqfp) to compare to mouser/digikey prices and this kind of thing turns up:http://www.ebay.ca/itm/STMICROELECTRONICS-STM32F103V8H6-32-BIT-MICROCONTROLLER-ARM-CORTE-STM32F103V8H6-/281509452015?pt=AU_Electronics_Wholesale_Electronics&hash=item418b4558efThe picture says street autoparts but the seller is "handyautoshop" with a minus 2 and the chip itself with shipping included is ten times the going rate.In another thread -Fluke 87v for 100$ the seller is myauto with 13400+ rating. sale rescinded and price changed. I don't get how this scam works. They seem to generate piles of listings that never complete and trash some previous auto parts general sellers store. Why can't ebay get a hold of this and nuke these mother-fuckers into the next galaxy?