Velleman VTHD09 - Is this still on sale? - Page 1
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author: psysc0rpi0n
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2018, 01:48:27 pm
content: I was looking for a dremel and I found this alternative but can't find it on sale anywhere.Is this on sale or is it discontinued? Is there an equivalent tool from Dremel? What price ranges are we talking about when we choose Dremel brand?

author: ggchab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2018, 07:39:17 am
content: http://www.conrad.fr/ce/fr/product/097316/Outil-multifonction-avec-accessoires-Velleman-VTHD09-135-W

author: psysc0rpi0n
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2018, 11:44:53 am
content: Quote from: ggchab on June 04, 2018, 07:39:17 amAnd is there any Dremel product comparable to this one?

author: ggchab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2018, 10:44:13 am
content: I don't know about Dremel. But I have been using the same Proxxon IBS/E (old model) for more than 15 years and it's still working perfectly. It's more expensive (you can find it at around 75€) but very reliable and very well built.

author: psysc0rpi0n
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 12, 2018, 10:20:25 pm
content: Thank you. I'll take a look at that brand. It's unknown to me!

author: psysc0rpi0n
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2018, 09:44:20 pm
content: Ok, I'm interested in comparing a Proxxon product that can be comparable to a Dremel 8220 or a 4300...If Proxxon has any model comparable to one of those Dremel, please let me know! I'm also open to other brands suggestions that might be comparable to Dremel!For instance, when I bought my multimeter, I was looking for Flukes and stuff and then I was suggested a Brymen and I'm very happy with it so far for like half of the price of a decent Fluke!

author: KL27x
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2018, 01:08:31 am
content: Proxxon only makes 4 versions of their rotary tool, and none are battery powered.They have 2x mains version that go up to 20k rpm, and they have 2x 12V versions that go up to 15k rpm. Note that if you buy the 12V version, you shall need to buy the PSU separately. The PSU is labelled as DC output, but it's actually non sinusoidal AC with a bit of DC off set. With these 12V tools, you can run them from DC/battery, but you don't get any speed control.The Dremel tools have much higher speed, 30-35k rpm, and more torque than the Proxxon tools. Maybe twice as much, roughly. The Proxxon tools are lower in noise and vibration, though.You can use the same bits in either, but you have to buy a chuck or the collet set. (Proxxons come with full set of collets OR a chuck adapter. Dremel usually just come with a single 1/8" collet. Also, the Proxxon uses a skinnier and longer mandrel on their bits, and the Dremel won't be able to chuck the Proxxon bits as short unless you cut down the length of the shaft. The Proxxon spindle has a deeper hole in it, I guess you would say.I use Proxxon rotary tools more than Dremel. Noise is probably the main factor. If it takes twice as long, but it is quiet and smooth, that's usually a good tradeoff for me. I keep telling myself that I am going to buy a proper router, and I probably am, soon. But these rotary tools can do quite a lot with some patience.One weak point in the Proxxon is the ball bearing that goes around the spindle. The tool is very skinny where you hold it, but they use a really thin ball bearing in there, and I've worn them out, twice. If you replace it as soon as it starts making a funny noise, the tool will keep trucking, but the motor will suffer irreparable damage if you let it go too long. Cost is like 8.00 from McCarr Master.

author: psysc0rpi0n
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2018, 08:19:24 pm
content: Thank you for the thorough reply. Many thanks for the details! Mainly the fact that the tool doesn't comes with everything needed in case of cordless version like the PSU.There were some terms I'm not sure if they mean what I think. The things you call 'bits' are the tools that you can attach to the rotary tool? I'm also not aware of what are 'chucks' and 'collet set'. 'Mandrel' is also a new word to me. But I'll Google them to try to fit them in your reply (contextually, I mean). But I got the main idea!Thanks