Easiest and most secure LoRaWAN module? - Page 1
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author: Lazyboy
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 05:54:04 pm
content: Hi, Im Tomislav from Onethinx. We are a small company and we have developed a LoRaWAN module, for which we believe to be the easiest and most secure. We would like to know your opinion regarding our module. Your honest opinion? Would you use it? Is security important to you? Price?Here are some specs:Here is a bit about the Onethinx module:PSoC 6 dual ARM core microcontrollerARM M0+ core runs certified locked stackARM M4 core runs users application (free to program)Integrated Secure ElementSemtech SX1261 radiointegrated omnidirectional antennaSmall Form factor: 24.5x20 mmCE and FCC certifiedPSA level 1 certifiedLoRa Alliance certified stack (transferable certification)Bluetooth 5 (no antenna)Easy to use API (few functions to get going)Range we got: 13kmAverage range people get: 11kmUltra Low power mode current: 2uAHere are some of the main differentiators of our module compared to most other LoRaWAN modules1. Immediately ready to use: ultra short time-to-market.2. LoRa Alliance Certification by Similarity3. Implement ARM® PSA® in your LoRaWAN™ device4. The Onethinx core module uses the PSoC® 64 SecureBoot MCU with secure element functionality.5. The combination of the new SX126x LoRaWAN™ radiochip together with the highly efficiënt integrated antenna ensures robust LoRaWAN functionality and longest battery life.Few functions to get going:coreStatus_t LoRaWAN_Init(coreConfiguration_t* coreConfigurationPtr)coreStatus_t LoRaWAN_Join(bool waitTillFinished)coreStatus_t LoRaWAN_Send(uint8_t* buffer, uint8_t length, bool waitTillFinished)coreStatus_t LoRaWAN_GetRXdata(uint8_t* buffer, uint8_t length)coreStatus_t LoRaWAN_GetStatus()errorStatus_t LoRaWAN_GetError()Our current prices are(excl. VAT):• <1000 pieces: €18.75• 1000+ pieces: €17.75• 5000+ pieces: €16.95https://www.onethinx.com/module.htmlWhat is your opinion on our module?

author: Lazyboy
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2019, 08:24:52 am
content: Got a new datasheet:https://www.onethinx.com/Content/downloads/Onethinx_Core_Specification_revC-final.pdf

author: jeremy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2019, 09:54:03 am
content: Looks neat. Price is unfortunately getting more important by the day in these sensors as more come out, and this is more than double the cost of the murata module (in ~200pcs) which works with the semtech stack. To be brutally honest, it looks like something I would try out, but then be forced into using the murata module anyway by cost pressures.Range measurements are misleading as they depend on the frequency plan you use (maximum EIRP, DR0 hogs the gateway badly, so it isn’t realistically used) and antenna configuration (ground plane size, etc), but I don’t blame you for posting them as everyone else is doing itit is definitely refreshing to see the sleep current, rather than the usual “device will last for 50 years on tiny coin cell no problems* (*transmission once per year using ideal batteries as the battery model)”.I think you should consider a breadboard adapter version of your dev kit.

author: Phoenix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 29, 2019, 12:13:38 pm
content: You have stated that you have fcc approval but I can't find any details in the datasheet. Also, I was under the understanding that an fcc certified module must be shielded.Have you got approval on a newer prototype than the one shown? I looked at renders on the website and datasheet and what looks like a photo and none had a shield or allowance for.Sent from my G8441 using Tapatalk

author: Lazyboy
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2019, 09:04:56 am
content: QuoteFirstly, we have used murata before in our applications, but we had strong reasons why we shifted to develop our own module. I understand that the price might be an issue, but I suggest you look at it from different angle:Our module is used as a microcontroller. PSoC 6x are dual core microcontrollers, With Onethinx Core module, one core runs our stack, while the other is free for users applicationIntegrated omnidirectional antenna, you do not have to design an antenna or be an RF expertIntegrated secure element, allows for secure boot and secure firmware upgrade, all security implemented, you do not have to be a security experthttp://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2340.htmlBluetooth 5 available on moduleSimple API calls (with 3 functions you can start sending data)Small 20x24.5mm sizeTwo-silicon solution and thereby has the potential to scale very well in high-volume projects...and many more....QuoteWe understand that the range depends on multiple factors. We are using multiple channels. The range of 13 km we got is not official, but it was measured from a basement of a building (our office) to the farthest gateway available (13km) using DR0. Our range (unofficially) closely follows these values:QuoteThank you!QuotePlanned for future!In addition, just to show, this is a picture of our latest POC device (14x3.5cm), the Agriculture sensor (Soil moisture, soil temperature, air temperature, light intensity):

author: Lazyboy
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2019, 09:06:57 am
content: QuoteFCC still in progress.