Cable shoe crimping pliers - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / beginners

author: mike_mike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 05:16:33 am
content: Hello! I would like to know what type of crimping pliers should I use for insulated cable shoes and for uninsulated cable shoe ? The crimping range is about 1.5mmp to 6mmp for both insulated and uninsulated.I need some cheap and simple.IMG1 shows the type of insulated shoes and IMG2 the uninsulated cable shoes.

author: Benta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:06:34 pm
content: For the uninsulated lugs, this one should work for you:https://www.conrad.de/de/p/toolcraft-1486699-crimpzange-1-stueck-unisolierte-offene-steckverbinder-0-5-bis-6-mm-rg62-rg59-rg58-rg6-1486699.html

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:08:42 pm
content: Quote from: Benta on March 04, 2022, 08:06:34 pmFor a closed barrel?

author: Benta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:19:00 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on March 04, 2022, 08:08:42 pmWhy not?(I can compete on brevity for cluttering up the thread).

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:22:12 pm
content: Quote from: Benta on March 04, 2022, 08:06:34 pmA completely unsuitable tool. It's for open barrel terminals. For insulated terminals crimper should have colored dots according to terminal insulation color as it indicates a suitable wire cross section. This tool with exchangeable dies can crimp both typeshttps://www.amazon.com/Crimping-Tool-Wirefy-Interchangeable-Non-Insulated/dp/B07Q32PYP3. Also there is a picture of the die/terminal compatibility.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:22:43 pm
content: Quote from: Benta on March 04, 2022, 08:19:00 pmBecause your crimps will be an utter garbage.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:26:39 pm
content: Quote from: Benta on March 04, 2022, 08:19:00 pmBecause it's a double W-die tool intended for open barrel crimps with an insulation support, and the OP showed a closed-barrel crimp which would need a single indent or hex die..

author: Benta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:33:47 pm
content: Did any of you two people ever try?The "fold-in" crimp tool actually works very well on closed barrel shoes.However, the cable has to fit snugly in the barrel, which limits the cable/shoe sizes that can be used.The barrel gets folded in at the top (like a bold "U" cross-section) and compressed at the same time. It works very well and is a good "poor man's" option compared to a $200+ tools.Nothing for rich people, of course.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:37:42 pm
content: Quote from: Benta on March 04, 2022, 08:33:47 pmIt's not a cheaper crimper, they cost about the same for a tool of similar quality. Why would you buy a wrong tool?

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:38:09 pm
content: If only you could buy single-indent or hex crimpers for less than $200. Sadly, nobody has ever made such a thing. And no, I don't have any I can specifically recommend for purchase in Romania - but I can say 'not that one'.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:42:31 pm
content: Does this look like $200?https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B09176WHZ5

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:53:20 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on March 04, 2022, 08:38:09 pmsomething like this?https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000090179961.html

author: Benta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 08:58:17 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on March 04, 2022, 08:42:31 pmNo. But it's not functional either. I wouldn't call making an indent in a barrel connector "Crimping". Total garbage.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 09:02:35 pm
content: Quote from: Benta on March 04, 2022, 08:58:17 pmLOL, so doing the job as intended is not crimping but mangling the connector with a wrong crimper is supposed to be a "functional crimp"?

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 09:09:25 pm
content: I guess Knipex from Germany has no idea how to properly crimp either

author: rob77
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 09:57:36 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on March 04, 2022, 08:38:09 pmthere are many tools under 200$i bought a hydraulic hex crimper for 60 euro (sizes 10-300mm2)

author: Benta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2022, 10:36:33 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on March 04, 2022, 09:09:25 pmSure Knipex does. But at 140 Euro, it's a somewhat different story. And the profile is completely different with two indents.Trolling for fun?

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2022, 12:59:11 am
content: Quote from: rob77 on March 04, 2022, 09:57:36 pmPlease retroactively apply sarcasm tags to my clear sarcasm.Quote from: Benta on March 04, 2022, 10:36:33 pmIt's a single indent for the smaller sizes.You're the only one who seems to be trolling here. Or just seriously unable to accept your word isn't gospel on crimping.

author: Jeff eelcr
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2022, 01:58:02 am
content: Kline crimp tools 1005, 1006 are good for non ins/ins red blue I ground one out for yellow fast and reliable if used properly. larger sizes I use an hydrolic crimper it is slower but works.Jeff

author: Jeff eelcr
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2022, 02:07:19 am
content: Those are nice and fast but limited Molex 63811-1000 will cover most sizes but require 2 crimps on each connector.Jeff

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 05, 2022, 11:51:15 am
content: Quote from: Jeff eelcr on March 05, 2022, 02:07:19 amAgain, wrong tool, it's for open barrel connectors.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 05, 2022, 11:53:15 am
content: Quote from: Benta on March 04, 2022, 10:36:33 pmSome tools have two smaller intents for larger terminal sizes, other have a single larger indent. Not much difference.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2022, 01:15:12 pm
content: ya dont use a crimper for these,wot you do is get a bit of silver paper from your fag packet and drop it in the lug to block the hole,get the crimp nice and hot with a blow torch and fill with solder,then just push your wire into the molten solder

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2022, 01:28:39 pm
content: Quote from: Benta on March 04, 2022, 08:58:17 pmOh man, you’re making a strong candidate for/confidentlyincorrecttoday…

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 05, 2022, 01:41:46 pm
content: Quote from: themadhippy on March 05, 2022, 01:15:12 pmAnd you will get a fragile garbage with no advantages of crimped connection and higher resistance. Will not be suitable to use anywhere where vibration is present. Not to say it takes much more time and effort.

author: Jeff eelcr
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2022, 03:26:33 pm
content: Not that soldering is the correct choice, it should be done correctly wire and terminal should have solder melted together not jammed together after solder melts. Also as many of these are used in automotive soldering is a poor choice most of the time.Jeff

author: rob77
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2022, 10:43:50 am
content: soldering wires is the worst option... soldering is suitable only for low power or in cases where there is absolutely no other option. high power and soldered joints doesn't mix well.. the joint will crack even without mechanical vibrations just by thermal expansion and contraction cycles (joint has a higher resistance than the wire so it gets hotter under load).