Can someone point me towards the hardware/software needed to program ATV750CL? - Page 1
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author: MarkS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 13, 2025, 10:30:29 pm
content: I've been looking all of the interwebs for several hours and can find nothing substantive. Microchip's website is a mire of old links for old software and hardware that do not seem to exist any longer. I did manage to find a copy of Atmel WinCUPL, but this appears to be from the Win XP era or earlier and I doubt it will be of much use. Even if it is, I would need a programmer of some sort. My searches have turned up tons of different "programers", but none seem to support any Microchip CPLDs other than the old 15xxx series. The 750CL series is a current chip series recommended for new designs, having replaced the 750CB series. I don't understand how this can be when there are no up to date resources available. I'd be willing to make my own programmer, but I cannot find a single resource showing how to wire a programmer to a CPLD to program it.

author: AK6DN
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2025, 11:33:55 pm
content: My EEtools TopMaxII allows programming of all combinations of ATF750/ATV750 devices ...

author: MarkS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 13, 2025, 11:47:04 pm
content: Quote from: AK6DN on February 13, 2025, 11:33:55 pmHOLY CRAP! $800!I did manage to find theT56T76 programmer. It works as well and is much cheaper. What about software?

author: AK6DN
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2025, 12:42:09 am
content: Quote from: MarkS on February 13, 2025, 11:47:04 pmWell the EEtools is a professional programmer that also happens to do al kinds of legacy bipolar PROMs, PLDs, CPLDs, and such.I bought it probably 10 years ago. The Xgecu devices don't do legacy bipolar prom/pld technology, so they are of little to no use to me.For software I use DataIO EZABEL 4.30 but you can't get it anymore. IDK about any software other than WinCUPL that supports those MicroChip/Atmel devices.

author: xvr
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2025, 05:35:20 pm
content: WinCupl available for download from Microchip -https://www.microchip.com/en-us/products/fpgas-and-plds/spld-cplds/pld-design-resources

author: MarkS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2025, 05:40:04 pm
content: Quote from: xvr on February 14, 2025, 05:35:20 pmYes, that is where I got it. It was odd though. I had to Google it to get to the link. None of the links I checked on their site ended up there.

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2025, 06:31:37 pm
content: this link ?https://www.microchip.com/en-us/products/fpgas-and-plds/spld-cplds/pld-design-resources#download workssome xeltek superpro too can program it but some need socket adapters if plcc44 or some magic adapter ..

author: PCB.Wiz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2025, 10:52:12 pm
content: Quote from: MarkS on February 13, 2025, 11:47:04 pmI don't think the T56 series have vector testing working yet. They are very slow at implementing user requests.

author: TomS_
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 07:49:21 pm
content: I use WinCUPL to write the logic, WinSIM to test it, and a T56 programmer to program the chips.WinCUPL and WinSIM definitely have acquired taste, but I don't know if anything else out there supports the ATF750s.

author: MarkS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2025, 04:38:44 pm
content: Quote from: TomS_ on February 20, 2025, 07:49:21 pmThe only WinSIM I can find is an industrial automation software. Is that what you mean?

author: PCB.Wiz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2025, 08:30:15 am
content: Quote from: MarkS on February 23, 2025, 04:38:44 pmCUPL has a command line simulator, and winSIM is a wrapper that displays the text SO file in waveform format.It has some limitations, so I use WinCUPL in command line mode and look at .SO file in a text editor.WinCUPL can also append vectors to the JED file, and with a bit of fiddling you can get sim and HW vector test to agree.Then, on a good device programmer (like topmax) you can Erase/Pgm/Vfy/Secure and Vector verify at two chosen voltages, on your Atmel PLDs.