tRUMP THE dONALD - Page 1
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author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2016, 11:24:21 pm
content: http://trumpdonald.org/

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2016, 11:40:17 pm
content: I'm his biggest fan there is. Liked his anti-pc stand and say-it-as-it-is style.Would never vote for him.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 04, 2016, 11:57:59 pm
content: That's hilarious, never seen anything like it before, pity he doesn't go cross eyed, I tried really hard.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 12:03:03 am
content: i FIND dONALD kIND oF eNTERTAINING, hE sAYS tHINGS fEW oTHER rEGULAR pOLITICANS wOULD dARE tO!hE oNCE SAID hE hAD sWEDISH aNCESTORS! wELL I aCTUALLY bELIVE tHAT eVEN nOW iT wAS a lIE !

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 12:11:54 am
content: Don Trump makes his fair share of silly comments.He is also misquoted as making many more which he didn't.It seems to be an American game to make up outrageous statements or actions & attribute them to prominent people.I've never really seen the fun in it,but maybe there is none---only viciousness!Pollies don't need to have words put in their mouths,as witness Tony Abbott's comment that "He wasn't the Suppository of all wisdom"!

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 02:35:03 am
content: Small loan of a million dollars?

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 03:07:35 am
content: Like agree or not, the Donald is a lot more entertaining than most of the people on TV! I think he single handedly is keeping most of the TV networks in business with their non-stop coverage and commentary about him.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 07:15:04 am
content: The reality is when he becomes the president, those politicians who is bashing him today will line up to kiss his ass.

author: NilByMouth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 08:47:22 am
content: Quote from: Bud on February 05, 2016, 07:15:04 am"when"? "wHeN"? "WHEN"

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 09:37:10 am
content: If it came down to Hillary v Trump, I would prefer Trump. I cannot stand Hillary.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 11:12:26 am
content: I heard this saying lately:Hollywood is the entertainment industry of thebeautifulPoliticians are the entertainment industry of theuglyThat is all it is, just entertainment of the masses.And "The Donald" is really good at it...

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 11:15:24 am
content: Quote from: Bud on February 05, 2016, 07:15:04 amproblem is : you can't bribe Trump ... He's got more money than you can probably offer him ... That's why the 'establishment' is crapping their pants ...

author: AlxDroidDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 11:17:40 am
content: Quote from: Stray Electron on February 05, 2016, 03:07:35 amThat because he's the village idiot, and the public like his antics and stupidities. For the networks, talking about that is money in the pocket.Quote from: tom66 on February 05, 2016, 09:37:10 amThat's a tough one, Tom! If it comes down to that, I'd say the US is pretty much fucked for the next 4 years.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 11:19:18 am
content: While on the other side of the Pacific, the US presidential election campaign has no immediate impact to me, but it has become a story of interest for our media. So, naturally, we get to see updates on a regular basis.It seems to me Trump's popularity comes from him shooting from the hip and not dancing around political correctness. I think a lot of people are disenchanted with the extremes that are imposed under the umbrella of PC and feel a breath of fresh air when he says out loud what they have been thinking and feeling within - probably for years.He has one big ace in his hand - he can afford to self-fund his campaign, so he doesn't need to worry about the interests of his backers, nor of offending them.His stance on Muslims (among other things) is, I feel, far too extreme - and implementation of the sorts of measures he is presenting fraught with danger - and I don't believe I'm the only one who thinks so. It would seem logical to think that this will be putting a somewhat negative pressure on his polling. I believe that a more positive approach would be to maintain the same energy, focus, commitment and belief in what he is doing - but not throw out ideas that are so extreme and evocative.The state voting for the candidates will be interesting.......

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 11:52:07 am
content: /\ /\ /\ +1_98% /\ /\ /\I generally stay well way from political discussion because I despise them all and don't believe anything they have to say except for one who is a very close friend so I get the inside gossip, not that I want to hear it mind you he just can't help himself, they seem to enjoy blowing their own trumpet and in most cases are out of tune.Anyway I hear that DT has a few quid and probably doesn't need a presidents wage, has he offered to serve the American people for free or is it compulsory that he be rewarded, it would go a long way for his campaign if he offered up his services at mates rates.Edit: Changed percentage rate as an exit strategy, just in case.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 12:05:00 pm
content: The way I understand (very little amount of) it, he is not politically correct. We would need some politicians that are not PC. Because problems exist and now we cannot even speak about the issues without everyone raising eyebrows and calling us names.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 12:15:35 pm
content: "the US is pretty much fucked for the next 4 years"Far more than that. The outcome of the Clinton email fiasco will tell you, beyond and shadow of doubt, if the US is a 3rd world country.

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 12:53:36 pm
content: Sad point I think is he identifies as christian (degree depending on the state), and not as Atheist/Agnost/Pastafarian

author: XOIIO
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 12:58:04 pm
content: Oh my god this is the best thing ever!

author: AlxDroidDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 01:36:26 pm
content: Quote from: dannyf on February 05, 2016, 12:15:35 pmThat fiasco was a shame on her, but far from placing the US as a 3rd world country. Our president, Dilma Roussef, is far dumber than H. Clinton, and a day doesn't go by when Dilma says something extremely stupid. She once mentioned in the UN that scientists needed to invent a mean to stock wind. She's possibly one of the dumbest persons alive, and she makes Clinton look like a Nobel Prize Nominee (and makes Trump look like a 2x Nobel winner).One thing that is admirable in the US is that the people's opinion is somehow regarded, is taken into consideration. I am certain that Clinton will have someone coach her on using a proper e-mail client, and not to say other bullshit like that.One strong image that Clinton will explore to the fullest is her seating in the same situation room as Pres. Obama during the raid to Osama Bin Laden's bunker, when he was - supposedly - killed.Other that than, and I may sound sexist but I am far from it, many countries run be female heads-of-states, have been a total catastrophe:- Dilma Roussef destroyed 16 years of economical stability and growth in Brazil- Cristina Kirchner did the same to Argentina- The whole refugee fiasco in Germany, allowed to happen by Angela Merkel- Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, from the Phillipines, who ended up being arrested for fraud- Michelle Bachelet, from Chile, had a great first term, but her 2nd one, ongoing, is a total disaster, with some of her family members deeply involved in corruption tied the government- etc

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 01:50:27 pm
content: You left out the Marcos shoe collection, apparently she wore the boots.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 01:58:08 pm
content: Seems the PC crowd have had their sensibilities offended - by someone who has not bowed to the extreme expectations that have crept into any society that seeks fairness for all. The whole situation has declined into reverse discrimination on a number of fronts. Add to that a political agenda and the media template of sensationalism and we get a nicely produced rant of erroneous content.I love the last line - by the man himself."We have people that are ... stupid."

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 02:01:32 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on February 05, 2016, 01:50:27 pmDon't forget our encounter with Julia.Stabbed Rudd in the back for the job - then Rudd returned the favour to get his old job back.That was just bizarre.

author: AlxDroidDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 02:02:02 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on February 05, 2016, 01:50:27 pmActually Imelda Marcos didn't run the Phillipines, but her husband Ferdinand Marcos did, and was a dictator for 20 years.Funny thing is that after Marcos left office, the Phillipines was run by a very competent female head-of-state: Corazon Aquino. I intentionally left out Corazon Aquino from my list because she's one of the rare exceptions of a good female president.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 02:07:29 pm
content: I'm sure there are many examples of female leaders that have done an excellent job - and all respect to them.My concern is when a female is given such a positionbecauseof her gender. I think this is absolutely wrong. I believe a position should be filled by whomever is capable, based on their merits - but should not be disadvantaged in the selection process simply because of their gender.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 02:17:25 pm
content: QuoteA person can never ruin a country. Brazil's problem isn't that Dilma is in power. Likewise, the US' problem isn't Obama is in power, or Hillary is in power.The outcome of the Clinton fiasco reflects our political system and our culture. She is the product of that. With a corrupt political system, it is just a matter of time the US becomes Brazil, or Mexico, or whatever-3rd-world-country you wish to name.We may not become Mexico under President (Hillary) Clinton, but it is just a matter of time. The destiny is never in doubt.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 02:22:21 pm
content: Clinton is hardly responsible for that, however.Just as Regan is hardly responsible for the 1980s "good times".

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 04:15:28 pm
content: The 1980'ies good times was because of 1970's bad times, anything better then bad is good! Whether the 1960'es was bad or good is up to debate!

author: AlxDroidDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 04:28:20 pm
content: Quote from: dannyf on February 05, 2016, 02:17:25 pmTrust me, Dannyf, she can and she did.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 06:07:04 pm
content: Quote from: AlxDroidDev on February 05, 2016, 04:28:20 pmBrazils problems are corruption not if it's a she or he!Quote from: blueskull on February 05, 2016, 02:19:35 pmI recall vaguely that it was Clinton who opened the import gates to China so they could become the planetary workshop ruining the US TV CRT tube manufacturers.

author: AlxDroidDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 06:44:24 pm
content: Quote from: MT on February 05, 2016, 06:07:04 pmThat's half the problem. Roussef did so much intervention in existing economic policies that our economy went down the drain. Her stupidity and inability to perform is being catastrophic.Unemployment and inflation are at an all time high, which industrial production and currency value have never been so low.We are officially in an economical recession, moving fast towards a depression. All of this happened during her presidency.Corruption is indeed a problem, and everything is tied to her political party, but that didn't lead us to where we are now. The previous president, Lula, from the same party, is corrupt, is being investigated and can be arrested at any time, but he didn't make so many interventions in the economy, and that's why we survived the global 2008 financial crisis w/o any damage.She s one of those cases: she was elected because she is a woman, not because she has any merit.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 07:11:49 pm
content: QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, that's a "world" problem not just Brazil.QuoteI see that your engaged, thats fine people should be engaged. But do any politician have any real merits really? I think you asks to muchof your politicians in the environment they a pear in or are situated in , better view them as half crooks from the beginning and you wouldnot end up disgruntled. Blame the Portuguese, they created the shit! Sort of!Or blame Saab who bribed your politicians when they tried to sell in JAS.

author: AlxDroidDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 07:31:07 pm
content: Quote from: MT on February 05, 2016, 07:11:49 pmOh, but I do blame the old Portuguesecrown! I just don't do it so often anymore because some Portuguese guys here, who have nothing to do with it, might be offended. Sometimes I wish we had been colonized by the British, or Dutch, or anybody else but the Portuguese. I know however, that the Portuguese people of today have nothing to do with it, they owe us nothing, and I don't hold it against them. It was our own fault for not being able to clean up the mess they left in our own house.Regarding politicians, you're absolutely correct. It's easier to just assume all of them are crooks and we have pick the "less worst" of them all, and hope whatever good they do pays off for how much they steal. I can't think that way ,'though. I wish I could, but I can't.QuoteActually, the whole case of the Gripen purchase was reopened by federal prosecutorsyesterday.This news is from 23 hours ago:http://www.valor.com.br/politica/4425062/mpf-reabre-inquerito-sobre-compra-de-cacas-pela-fabI don't know how well that page might translate to English or Swedish, but it's going to be investigated all over again, since new evidence of corruption has been found due to other non-related investigation.

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 07:40:21 pm
content: A big part of any nations success is how it trains the next generation. Here in the US we have been doing a poor job of this since sometime in the 1960s or 1970s.There are many theories about why this is, but none of the solutions to date has done much to change this. I personally think that two big factors are wealth in the US and the Vietnam War. The wealth thing is that everyone has so much that the value of an education is not obvious. You have to be a little hungry (at least in a metaphorical sense) to put in the work it requires learn and the work it requires to assist your children to learn. The Vietnam War thing relates to the draft. Becoming a teacher was a draft deferrment, and the ranks of teaching were flooded with people with little interest or talent in the profession, just an interest in not going to Southeast Asia. As with all career choices, momentum kept them there after the draft threat ended.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 08:46:42 pm
content: QuoteWell, i did say ""half crooks"" 50% decent 50 crooks, it's a nasty mixture but they figured it works among the peasants(gray mass of voters who dont understand what they are voting for) who condone for their acts, well rather "forgets their crime.QuoteAh, did a check for it in Swedish papers and sure it did report likewise..http://www.svd.se/aklagare-i-brasilien-ska-utreda-gripenaffarAs reported in news here its said that the cost was 4,5 billion dollars but when signed suddenly it had traveled up to 5,4 billion dollars.i would dare say there is not one single arms deal (country to country) that went through without corruption/bribes of some sort or the other, it's built into the system.I ponder how JAS will perform in the heat of Southamerica, since it was designed for a rather different environment.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2016, 09:27:32 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 05, 2016, 02:07:29 pmWell they have this woman in Germany. She is making the most damage to the EU and Germany since that other german, with the funny little mustache starting a world war.And yes, persons, political parties can ruin countries.

author: Mechanical Menace
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 03:14:51 pm
content: I honestly don't think it makes a difference in the vast majority of the world whoever gets voted in. The marketing may be different but Obama hasn't run the US any differently than Bush was doing, in the UK the Conservatives are doing exactly the same as Labour did. Unless they're really lucky I bet most who will read this can see the same in their own country. The only way they try to keep their voters happy is with slightly different rhetoric while they serve their real masters, donors and special interests. Trump won't be any different, his wealth may be hard for us to get our heads around but it's nothing compared to what the people who really matter to governments have access to, many could throw around Trumps entire net worth a month for shits and giggles and still be richer at the end of the year. Plus money isn't the only thing people can be bribed with. Blackmail is only a bribe the blackmailer thinks you can't refuse after all.

author: AlxDroidDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 04:15:28 pm
content: Quote from: MT on February 05, 2016, 08:46:42 pmI got the "half" part, but while that may be for Sweden, for Brazil the crooks are about 95%, with an error or +/- 5%. So it might well be all of them!QuoteLet me give you some info that might explain that.At the time, the other candidates for the purchase were the F-18 Hornet and the Rafale, both being tried and tested fighters, including being deployed on real war scenarios (specially the F-18). All the Brazilian Air Force specialists involved in the case were certain that the F-18 was the better candidate, which is true, and the Gripen was the worst possible choice. Not only it [the JAS Gripen] wasn't a complete project back then, but its operating costs were virtually unknown. It can't be deployed from a sea carrier, it's max load is 60% of the F-18 and, again, it had never been tested on battle because it wasn't ready.At the time, the Ministry of Defense, the department in charge of the purchase was run by military personnel. During the negotiations, Pres. Lula da Silva (of the same party as Dilma, "PT") changed the minister of difense for a civilian that belonged to his party. Then all of a sudden the Gripen automagically was being stated as the better choice and was eventually purchased.BTW, during the negotiations with Boeing for the F-18, Brazil got the go-ahead from the US DoD to purchase the F-18. It was the logical and obvious choice and everyone thought was a done deal until the change in the ministry of defense for a corrupt civilian.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 04:40:52 pm
content: QuoteLike my hero Obama would have it: "election has consequences, baby!"QuoteThat's why Dilma is not the problem: if you didn't elect Dilma, you would have elected a Eilma, Filma, Gilma, ...... They are all the product of a "system". Without fixing that system, you will never fix the problem.Why do you think so many people hold onto the usd?Not for its great companies; Not for its economy; Not entirely for its military. For its political system.The Clinton email fiasco will prove for all, conclusively, if we have the political system that others can trust. If we lose that trust, we are no different from any 3rd world country: Brazil, Mexico, .....

author: Mechanical Menace
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2016, 04:53:11 pm
content: Quote from: dannyf on February 06, 2016, 04:40:52 pmYou don't and never have. And neither has any other country. At best you have mutual self interest with some countries but will happily bend them over given the chance. Again same as any other country.QuoteCan you really count the worlds 7th and 15th largest economies as 3rd world? If so why aren't Canada, Sweden, Australia...EDIT:No offence meant to any Australians, Swedes, or Canadians btw.

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 11:09:37 am
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on February 05, 2016, 09:27:32 pmThere are a lot of similarities between both:-both admire big-statism, big dream is a giant unified EU.-both disarmed their population (get less resistance afterwards)-both Nazi troups and the current loved EU invaders openly hate/discriminate Jews and Gays.(Hey Simon: they both hate/killed transgenders too)-both are ready to use police force against population protest.-both use media to cover up criminality, and use media to invent distraction, distribute propaganda.-Both Nazi-criticism and Political-correctness-criticism are handled equal: Loss of job, pillory,.. we will see more similarities when the next step of ww3 is on.-Both moderate-Nazi and the current Political Correct believers have the same profile and excuse: The "ich habe es nicht gewusst"

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 11:20:08 am
content: Quote from: AlxDroidDev on February 05, 2016, 01:36:26 pmReally, I'm laughing and angry at the same time. This beats our former ministre(ss) of Energy:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freya_Van_den_Bossche-engineer: blablabla investment, subsidies, multimillions, ceremony,... at the opening of an offshore wind park.-engineer: ...we reduced the losses between the windmills and the land, optimized, blablabla...-ministre: why are there losses between the windmill and land? where is this energy going?-engineer: that's all due to ohm's law, my highness-ministre: I will IMEDIATELY start up an amendment to change or remove that that law.Quote from: AlxDroidDev on February 05, 2016, 01:36:26 pmFeminists3.0 say that's because men are not cooperating, use rotting, set up traps, to get in power again.

author: han
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 11:57:39 am
content: I'm not Europe citizen,but have been to Germany couple before the migrant crisis andeven have see poster of Angela Merkel campaign.And its make me sad see beautiful Europe destroyed by Merkel.So to USA please don't make same mistake as European do..

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 12:51:21 pm
content: QuoteNot a fat chance.To those American liberals, whatever the Europeans do is always right.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 02:19:11 pm
content: Quote from: Galenbo on February 07, 2016, 11:20:08 amARE YOU KIDDING ? She really said that ? Ashamed to be belgian

author: babysitter
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 03:32:11 pm
content: Dont worry about germany, we're fine.The Migrants might produce some slight discomfort for some people. You know, "Of course a migrant might take away your job. But if someone without personal connections, little knowledge of your language and no experience takes away your job, well..."Germany gained a lot by selling stuff from Diehl Group, Krauss Maffei Wegmann, Heckler & Koch and co, this is some kind of responsibility.The other annoyance, AfD and xGIDA; dreaming of a white, christian, closed-border germany is smaller and has way less impact than media might make you believe.Sorry for exporting Trumps to the USA! But the same area brought you Heinz.. from Heinz Ketchup fame.

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 03:57:40 pm
content: "Regarding politicians, you're absolutely correct. It's easier to just assume all of them are crooks and we have pick the "less worst" of them all, and hope whatever good they do pays off for how much they steal. I can't think that way ,'though. I wish I could, but I can't."I used to think that choosing a candidate was picking the lesser of two evils, now I believe it is picking the evil of 2 lessers.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 04:06:55 pm
content: QuoteBut for that, we have to put up with French fries and John Kerry. I think we got the bad end of the stick, definitely,QuoteIn that process, we have managed to turn a Republic into a Democracy (or tyranny of the majority).

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 08:04:46 pm
content: Quote from: babysitter on February 07, 2016, 03:32:11 pmI bet the hundreds of sexually harassed woman would describe it slight discomfort.Or the millions of tourist who have to show their passport one again in the EU.Or the woman in Holland who, have muslim men knocking on their door, checking if they live according a book.Or the dead in France.Quote from: Galenbo on February 07, 2016, 11:09:37 amI never said that. They are breaking it by doing the opposite. One was killing everyone who had slightly different genes. Merkel lets everyone into europe, unchecked, no matter if they fit there, or what kind of havoc will are causing. The issues are always the two extremes. Just do something sensible.

author: Supercharged
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 08:15:41 pm
content: I still kinda hope trump running for president is a joke.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 08:44:04 pm
content: QuoteSorry to break it to you but people on the left usually have a very hard time doing sensible things.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2016, 09:30:56 pm
content: Quote from: Galenbo on February 07, 2016, 11:09:37 amI don't see how that is relevant to me, assuming you are referring to me.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 03:26:44 am
content: This thread isn't going to go anywhere but downhill.