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author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 08:01:58 am
content: I can't believe THIS is my competition...http://www.mpamp.com/products/red-cables/I swear, I do everything the hard way. I need to start selling magic tone pebbles and things like that.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 09:19:57 am
content: BS

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 09:20:17 am
content: Quote from: John Coloccia on November 17, 2015, 08:01:58 amLooks like a piece of braid covered mains cableIt probably is......I'll give him 9/10 for the pseudo-scientific quack description of how they work, though.

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 09:44:12 am
content: The thing is he is a legit gear manufacturer, and generally makes pretty good stuff.But then he does this steaming pile of crap voodoo witch doctor garbage. How could anyone possibly ever buy anything from him again? He's basically calling all of his customers idiots.I wonder how many people he's ripped off. Maybe he's trying to retire early, or something.

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 09:48:43 am
content: QuoteAh, so the electrons get whipped into shape. Do you think my pet electrons will get fit by being run through this cable?

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 10:54:03 am
content: Here in Australia, car advertisements are aimed at fools. Slick idiotic advertising that is similar to the words for the red cable. The ads are full of slick, sleazy marketing with little substance. But it works. Some pretentious people buy the German badge here to save face, even though many of these cars are inferior to high end Japanese cars in quality, features and value for money.I once wrote to Saatchi & Saatchi about one of their ads being an insult to the intelligence of many Australians and the email found its way up the chain to the CEO. He contacted me and put me on his personal contact distribution list for about a year so I could get insights into advertising.http://www.saatchikevin.com/lovemarks/future-beyond-brands/. I learnt a lot, and it made me more aware and discerning about the ploys of commercial advertising.

author: VK5RC
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 11:04:39 am
content: The problem is the cable looks quite funky, if they said "we have these really groovy looking cables that will make you enjoy looking at your sound gear" I would have no objection, but the old "nano" "energy" "alignment" BS is present.Surprising it didn't have "quantum" in there as well!

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 12:56:21 pm
content: Quote from: VK5RC on November 17, 2015, 11:04:39 amBut it does have the patented 'SpinX' technology.

author: hs3
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 06:16:35 pm
content: Quote from: VK5RC on November 17, 2015, 11:04:39 amIt seems like there is a patent (application?) for it and there you can find the word "quantum".http://www.google.com/patents/US20130140059Who wants to explain what this is about?

author: calexanian
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 06:33:10 pm
content: When i was a kid being a "Madman" in the studio business meant you had crazy low prices. Google Madman Muntz to see what I mean. He popularized the I am so insane I am giving things away type advertising in the 50's. He started in the used car business but eventually went over to electronics. They made T.V.'s with the lowest tube count and therefore lowest cost. There actually did not have a proper RF front end on them so they only receive very strong local stations and this was sold as a "Feature" This is all from a time and place that will never exist again.

author: aon
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 06:53:16 pm
content: That cable looks like a cloth-covered extension lead I told my gran to throw away after she got a shock from it.But wait, maybe this cable is better than that old unearthed extension lead.Here's a Finnish review of it, and I just can't unsee what I think is a green-yellow mains PE conductor in the second teardown picture.Then again, I probably just don't understand how this thing works.

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 07:11:52 pm
content: Incidentally, as far as I know, spin currents are only stable in the MHz and GHz range of frequencies, i.e. useful for fast switching and signaling in semiconductors. But what do I know, I'm just a dumb engineer. I don't have the brain power to envision how this little, patented cable causes magic changes to propagate throughout your entire system....regular cables, active electronics, coils...just one magic cable and poof, all better! Makes you wonder why they don't just make a big one...maybe a couple of feet wide and 10 inches long, and just plug it into the power plant. You can transform every piece of gear in the area.

author: Cubdriver
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 07:34:42 pm
content: Quote from: John Coloccia on November 17, 2015, 07:11:52 pmYeah, but then you'd only be able to sell ONE. This wayeverybodyneeds one. They're crazy, but they're not stupid.-Pat

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 08:03:28 pm
content: They see artists as uninformed prey.Without pointing out the specifics of the BS, the appeal is to the emotional perfectionist tendencies of an artist that pours their heart into an instrument. The psychology works far better than the claimed technology. The real breakthrough is achieving sales on something that is useless and accomplishes nothing.

author: vk3yedotcom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 08:44:38 pm
content: Quote from: rx8pilot on November 17, 2015, 08:03:28 pmJust like bottled water.Prey on anxieties that your product claims to solve (but which there's no or sketchy evidence) and you can charge the earth.Not just audio but food, management techniques, consultants and private schools.

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 08:52:54 pm
content: At least bottled water actually tastes better than the tap water (in Los Angeles anyway) and has the convenience of being purchased when/where you are thirsty. The water is not what you pay for as much as the convenience of getting good water.This cable......literally offers nothing at all. No convenience, no performance, nothing. Just pure cost with no benefit.

author: John Coloccia
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 09:21:01 pm
content: I read through the patent. Even if it's 100% accurate, which I believe to be dubious, it only measured performance above 10kHz, and below the curves seemed to be converging, but even just taken at face value, the reduction in resistance was marginal. But let's say it magically became a superconductor and the resistance went down to zero. So what? How you you claim an increase in performance by added a serial resistance of zero? Clearly it's more than zero, so how can you possibly have anything but worse performance byaddingany serial resistance, even if it's a much lower resistance than normal due to some magic effect?It boggles the mind.

author: M4trix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2015, 09:38:35 pm
content: Quote from: aon on November 17, 2015, 06:53:16 pmIt looks like those cords for steam irons.