Keysight Ad At Top of Page - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 27, 2018, 07:18:09 pm
content: I can't find the TEK scope Keysight is advertising. For the last week or so there has been a Keysight Multi-Vendorad at the top of this forum. They show a TEK TDS5034B scope for $999.00 USD. I have clicked on it and searched their sight but cannot find that scope at that price. Has anyone else been able to find it? That would be a pretty good deal with CAL and warranty

author: Kean
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 27, 2018, 07:20:49 pm
content: This one?https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tektronix-TDS5034B-Digital-Phosphor-Oscilloscope-350-MHz-4-Ch-5-GS-s-/253608169262

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 27, 2018, 07:29:00 pm
content: There is some interesting stuff but then:Quoteworldwide is not what it used to be

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 27, 2018, 08:22:59 pm
content: Quote from: Old Printer on June 27, 2018, 07:18:09 pmDid you check the prices of other items? Insane is the right adverb.

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 01:38:52 am
content: Quote from: Kean on June 27, 2018, 07:20:49 pmYes, that would be it. I could not find one for less than $2500 when I followed the link. Thank you, I will have to try again.. Did you find it through the link here?

author: Kean
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 01:04:46 pm
content: Quote from: Old Printer on June 28, 2018, 01:38:52 amYep, I first had to refresh the page to see the Keysight ad. I clicked through, went to Oscilloscopes category, then did a CTRL-F search of that page for "5034" and it came right up.I had a look around while there in case I could be tempted, but nothing I could really justify buying

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 02:05:26 pm
content: Quote from: Kean on June 28, 2018, 01:04:46 pm

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 02:22:31 pm
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on June 27, 2018, 07:29:00 pmThat's a who's who list of PITA customs countries. Carriers like charge a large surcharge for countries like these, I think they are all "Zone 5" DHL countries.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 02:24:23 pm
content: The advertised scope is already sold perhaps?IIRC I do remember seeing it when I first checkout the shop when they started to advertise.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 02:39:01 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 28, 2018, 02:22:31 pmEurope?

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 02:42:16 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on June 27, 2018, 08:22:59 pmWow... Fully agree on some of the lower end equipment (the higher end I am not on par with the street prices). A TPS2024 for $2.4k?!? A TDS340 for $360?!?I really doubt that Keysight paid anywhere near these prices on the trade-in...

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 02:56:13 pm
content: Quote from: rsjsouza on June 28, 2018, 02:42:16 pmI'm not intimately familiar with our process, buy my understanding is that we essentially pay for trade-ins with discounts on new sales instead of with $$$. And, that discount is based exclusively on bandwidth. So, use that info as you will.I've also reached out to the team about the "worldwide shipping" thing. It seems a little silly to me to say "worldwide" and then exclude whole continents. Antarctica seems like fair game, though!

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 08:12:19 pm
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on June 28, 2018, 02:56:13 pmThanks; in practice I imagine this is what in fact happens - a slight different form of what we usually call it here "funny money": "virtual" money that flows from one pocket to another.

author: bugi
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 08:26:34 pm
content: On the country list... while my world map knowledge isn't what it used to be after school some decades ago, to me it looked like the only locations to be serviced are indeed north-america (and probably some remote USA locations), Japan, Antarctic, and... China?!? And the parts of Russia that are not in Europe?!?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 09:04:59 pm
content: Quote from: bugi on June 28, 2018, 08:26:34 pmCould it be that most of this equipment comes from Europe and Keysight wants to prevent is gets used to get a discount again? IOW: people buy old equipment to get a discount? That may also explain the high prices. IMHO from a business point of view a better way would be to just scrap the equipment which got traded in so the used market gets less saturated.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 28, 2018, 10:24:52 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on June 28, 2018, 09:04:59 pmThat should be very easy to track by serial number. The trade-in is accepted at Keysight's discretion.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 29, 2018, 08:44:32 am
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on June 27, 2018, 07:29:00 pmyou don't get it, USAisthe world.the worst part is that me that i am browsing from a different part of the planet can't even see the listings.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 29, 2018, 08:53:07 am
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on June 28, 2018, 02:39:01 pmThe EU is it's own can'o'worms

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 29, 2018, 08:59:40 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 29, 2018, 08:53:07 amI find that hard to believe. I buy stuff from allover the world without problems. OK for some countries (like Italy) you really have to use a courier but none of them are a problem. Except ofcourse for the handling charge but that is relatively small compared to the price of typical test equipment and easy to factor in. If Keysight doesn't want to bother they can always opt to use Ebay's global shipping program. This works very well.

author: srce
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 29, 2018, 10:20:04 am
content: When I asked Keysight why they can't ship some things on their ebay store to Europe, they said it's because some older products aren't RoHS compliant, so can't CE mark it.

author: larsdenmark
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 29, 2018, 10:52:02 am
content: Quote from: srce on June 29, 2018, 10:20:04 amI received the same explanation from Keysight.The solution is to have the item forwarded from the USA to Europe by one of the package forwarding services that exist. I don't think they worry much about such details.A small warning for the beginner: Make sure that whatever you buy from the USA can run on 230 V.

author: jpb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 29, 2018, 11:51:16 am
content: One fairly recent change is that Keysight no longer have a UK ebay store - it is now just part of the US one with restrictive shipping on many items.Before this change happened, I noticed that the number of items on the UK store got less and less with many categories empty.I don't know if the UK market for refurbished Keysight kit has shrunk or it is just part of some overall business rationalization and cost reduction. For potential UK buyers it now means you don't know what is available and what isn't without checking each item.EDIT: to clarify, there is a keysight store on ebay.co.uk but when you click on the item it takes you to the US store (the price is in $ and the first item I clicked on stated that it didn't ship to the UK which would be odd for a store on ebay.co.uk)

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 29, 2018, 11:59:57 am
content: Quote from: srce on June 29, 2018, 10:20:04 amAFAIK CE marking does not apply to used equipment (or at least only requires the standards in force at the time of original manufacture)

author: Gromitt
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 29, 2018, 12:26:37 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on June 29, 2018, 08:53:07 amEurope does not equal EU, there are countries in Europe that are not members of EU.

author: srce
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 29, 2018, 12:38:01 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on June 29, 2018, 11:59:57 amPerhaps the fact some things are refurbished makes a difference?