Gossen Metrahit 25S - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: nukie
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2011, 01:30:41 am
content: Don't know if this is a bargain, aussie fellas here you gohttp://store.transtek.com.au/ttekstore/catalogue/c2/c10/c16/c17

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2011, 05:52:28 am
content: An interesting remark on that pageQuoteI looked up this Rishabh company, and as you can see from the banner on this sitehttp://www.rishabh.co.in/test_measuring_inst.htmlthey even copy GMC's style of probes.And they don't stop there. Here they offer some softwarehttp://www.rishabh.co.in/rishcom_100_software.htmlCompare the Rishabh image with the title page of Gossen's METRAwin 10's manualhttp://www.gossenmetrawatt.com/resources/tt/win10/ba_d.pdfFor extra fun, count the number of times they use the word "German" on this pagehttp://www.rishabh.co.in/management.htmlwhile they desperately to try to give themselves the image of a "German quality" company. Shame, shame, shame, shame.

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2011, 10:24:10 am
content: Interesting, first near clone I've seen of Gossen. On the good side, copying means its highly popular in its field.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2011, 11:25:19 am
content: Well if the Gossen products costs in India , the amount of money that one family with two Kids needs ,so to survive for 12 months ..I am ready to accept the idea, that their lower priced clones , could be an positive option.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2011, 05:31:52 pm
content: Your statement doesn't make sense. It is not a requirement to copy someone else's look to build an affordable meter. It is purely a question of business ethics.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2011, 05:47:49 pm
content: I am challenging you , to create one drawing of one multimeter that it will not look similar ,with any other , all ready made on this planet.If you do an so exceptional work , I bet that you will payed extremely well.Some one will love to have your design, in his products.But hey , I just got a new idea ... lets make a new thread with the title :" Design the look of your own favorite DMM "

author: qno
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2011, 06:21:46 pm
content: This could be the real thing.The series marketed by Rish are the discontinued models of Gossen.Check the webpage of gossen.Gossen now only sell's the Extra series tested by Dave.They probably did not want to trash the R&D spend on the previous series.They either sold a licence to produce the meters in India or build the same meter with a slightly changed look to less demanding markets.Somtimes it is better to be your own competitor.Remember that the blocking principle of the current or voltage inputs of the meter are patented features of Gossen.As Rish advertises with this features it will probably be with permission of Gossen or someone is not paying attention at the Gossen patent office.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2011, 07:10:44 pm
content: Quote from: qno on May 25, 2011, 06:21:46 pmI can accept that , I have see this happens , and in the motorcycles market,Honda sold the R&D of the engine of my own 250 CC motorcycle (20 years old) to China.The Italian VESPA sold their R&D to India , about all the old fashion models.

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2011, 07:51:26 pm
content: Even more interesting, they write they have direct connection to Gossen as collaborators:http://www.rishabh.co.in/technical_know_how.htmlhttp://www.rishabh.co.in/collaborations.htmlhttp://www.greatoffers4u.com/u/rishabh/about-us/Quote from: qno on May 25, 2011, 06:21:46 pm

author: nukie
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2011, 01:19:26 am
content: I don't think it's a clone or copy based on the understanding of Indian culture. I believe it's the real shit.http://www.zedflo.com.au/Uploads/Downloads/ComparisonDataSheetDMMs.pdfRish 16S is $240AU+GSThttp://www.multimetercalibrationsaustralia.com.au/onlineshopmultimeters.htmlI don't know who wrote the below statement but apparently it looks like a technology transfer between the two companies, but in any case I still prefer Made in Germanyhttp://www.radiomuseum.org/r/metrawatt_metrahit_digital_multime.htmlAnd straight from the boss,http://www.thehindubusinessline.in/2002/12/13/stories/2002121301870200.htmQuoteQuoteThis was 2002 and it makes me wonder which of the parts in Gossen DMMs is made in IndiaFinally,http://www.ecademy.com/account.php?op=cv&id=426277Looks like this guy visited Gossen in year 2000 for a technology transfer. Maybe we can ask him about the meters he designed for Rishabh.

author: ciccio
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2011, 08:35:21 pm
content: I've never heard before of RISHAB, but after a visit to their site I'm really impressed.It is clear that they manufacture products under license of other manufacturers, but their range is wide and the products interesting.They are not cloners or copiers.I think that Metrawatt's patents on their ingenious mechanical locking system of inputs have expired, because I've seen similar solutions on Chinese meters, but these Rishab meters are identical to the older Metrawatts.The molding and the LCD are the same.Any information about prices?

author: Amarbir[Lynx-India]
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2012, 08:26:14 pm
content: Well,As This Post Talks about my country and in perticular multimeters from one of the most rugged multimeters manufacturers in my country .I will take a small initiative and talk with the management of the company to send dave some samples if they agree .On the other hand i would like to tell you that we have a local sub distributor in my own city who sells these meters ,They are extremely rugged and real kick ass products and last years in labs where they are thrown left and right .Definately not expensive here too .

author: img
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2013, 09:10:34 am
content: Quote from: Amarbir[Lynx-India] on September 18, 2012, 08:26:14 pmI hate to trouble you, Amarbir, but if during the past few months you have acquired more detailed information on these Rish-Gossens, please could you share it.

author: Amarbir[Lynx-India]
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2013, 11:27:10 am
content: Quote from: img on March 13, 2013, 09:10:34 amWell,I do not get troubled that easily.Here you go ->http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?ukey=search&searchstring=rishabh&did=177&sort=Price&direction=ASC&show_all=yes

author: img
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2013, 07:27:28 am
content: Quote from: Amarbir[Lynx-India] on March 13, 2013, 11:27:10 amGreat, thanks! What are the shipping costs to the UK?

author: Amarbir[Lynx-India]
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2013, 07:38:46 am
content: Well,Which One Is of particular interest to you in these models Any Why .Might be i am other can they pour our comments out we are all here to learn and earn from each other .I am of the opinion that if there is something better out there it should be purchased instead of a POS someone is trying to buy .I can only comment once you tell me what model you like to buy .One thing these are solid like a tank and will work for years

author: grenert
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2013, 04:54:38 pm
content: Quote from: Amarbir[Lynx-India] on March 14, 2013, 07:38:46 amTake it apart!

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2013, 02:44:43 am
content: They do look very interesting indeed. Great material for teardown tuesday. FYI, 5000 indian rupees ~= US$100.