Anybody heard of a special 1800's  'Bamboo Pallet'  graphics print ? - Page 1
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author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 24, 2025, 03:00:40 pm
content: Hello:I'm seeking a printing method alternative, after review of some existing book publishers.Might even be to the extent that I do the actual labor to self-publish.I've heard of...(Ok, I made this up!)...Using a half of a potato, to impress some cartoon graphics on a sheet of paper.I will include a sample in a sec. but idea is an organic method that irreverently bypasses the usual modern day, Windows 7 based publishing while also bypassing some big-ass book publishers.My product is very short, at 12 pages, including hand-produced ' 'art' '.Topics include whimsical meta-physics, and funny vehicle bumper stickers.Example humorous bumper sticker:'How's my Drinking ?...(Dial 510- eat-..."

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 24, 2025, 04:36:31 pm
content: Sample graphic has a tree leaves on a branch.

author: Xena E
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timestamp: March 24, 2025, 06:06:06 pm
content: Indian wood block printing is a cool method Rick Jack.https://www.instructables.com/Creating-cutting-and-printing-your-own-woodblock/Very relaxing, and absorbing pastime (keep off the grass)...X

author: cunningfellow
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timestamp: March 24, 2025, 10:06:55 pm
content: Quote from: RJSV on March 24, 2025, 03:00:40 pmZine?Are you wanting to bypass modern printing methods (inkjet, xeroxgraphy) or bypass computers altogether?If you are still happy to use computers in the production, CNC cutting rubber blocks or vinyl sheet is a lot easier than carving them. Possibly even cheaper to buy a whole CNC setup than going down the path of the two cherries.There is also a little 3D printed press you can go from hand etchings withhttps://openpressproject.com/The hand etchings can even be done into plastic sheet for small runs.

author: Analog Kid
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 03:08:58 am
content: This is from a flyer that I designed when I was a kid (in my 20s):The coffee cups were potato prints: I must've used something like an Xacto knife to cut the design, then inked it (with India ink?) and stamped them on paper. It's a great technique, kind of the poor man's woodcut.Carrots work well too for smaller stamps.

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 04:40:20 am
content: Thanks.I am thinking of potentially connecting with an artist, maybe up in Grass Valley or Nevada City,that can, enthusiastically, get some novel stamps made, in BAMBOO ink handling for 5stamp use.Takes longer to drive up there, than it will take to produce 'hard copy' for fifty.o

author: Analog Kid
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 05:03:02 am
content: Quote from: cunningfellow on March 24, 2025, 10:06:55 pmDon't forget offset printing.Offset (properly known as "offset lithography") is still the way that most stuff is printed nowadays, from books to junk mail to posters to flyers. Not a computer "printer" but printed on a printing press. (Some junk mail will have the customer-specific stuff computer imprinted by inkjet or laser, but the rest of the piece will be offset printed.)Most offset printers nowadays print from digital sources (best file format for that is PDF), but in the Bay Area there are still some printers who have a camera and darkroom and can print from "camera-ready" artwork, which sounds like what you want. You produce the pages to be printed on "boards" which are shot by a process camera, and the negatives "stripped" into "flats" from which the printing plates are made.They can also do the bindery work required to produce a booklet (folding, cutting and saddle stitching).

author: Haenk
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 05:33:52 am
content: Quote from: Xena E on March 24, 2025, 06:06:06 pmSince even I heard of wood block printing, that had to be a common way back then, 1800s sounds right (so actually not an Indian-only invention it seems).However, the easier way is Linoleum cutting:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinocutThat was a very common way of creating art prints, we even did that in school (probably impossible nowadays, as it involves uses sharp cutting knives).

author: Analog Kid
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 05:47:17 am
content: Woodcuts were hardly an "Indian" thing, and go back a lot earlier than the 19th century:

author: Haenk
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 05:54:41 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on March 25, 2025, 05:47:17 amThat's late 19th century, did not realize it was still a thing then, I thought they went to cutting metal, for better printing results.

author: Analog Kid
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 05:58:48 am
content: Cutting metal is a completely different technique. Actually a couple techniques:Intaglio involves cutting recesses in the plate that receive ink, with the (non-image) surface of the plate wiped clean, as opposed to woodcut where the non-printing areas are cut away.Then there's mezzotint, and some other techniques that allow midtones to be printed, not just ink/no ink.

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 10:07:12 pm
content: Initially, my idea is to use tiny bamboo 'spears' in a mass bundle. This way each tip is like a pixel, in random packing together, similar to the look of a bundle of uncooked spaghetti.But my real hope is to locate a real, HIPPY Beatnick Artist that's going to love a project; unleashing a new technique (that's maybe languishing).The cartoon drawn living room 'clash' needs bolder graphic, but the picture gives the sense of what a 'vicious' furniture clash might look like.

author: Analog Kid
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 11:04:36 pm
content: Hmmm, spaghetti: interesting idea.How 'bout if you pack a bunch of short pieces of spaghetti into a holder, say a rectangle; get them in there fairly tight but not too tight. Push them all flat against a surface so they're all at the same level, then push some of them in to form your image, using a needle carefully, so they're above the surface and won't "print".Then tighten them in the holder somehow. Now you can use them to make a print of the image. It'll be kind of low-res, but who knows? it might look pretty cool.You could use capellini (angel hair pasta) for smaller "pixels".For even smaller pixels you could use something like really small-gauge styrene (plastic) rod, available at hobby stores.

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 25, 2025, 11:57:18 pm
content: A relative used to work at the Ben Franklin store, so she knows about crafts. Suggested use vinyl, similar to suggested here.Spaghetti, of course needs to stay dry, and so .y thoughts go back to the bamboo.One idea thread considered the older use of 'Inner Child', as in:"My inner child made the honor roll", mocking both the parents, and the New Age, which I'm actually at a loss to even describe what that meant...30 years later.So I have to take that one out, which then leaves me short, of cynical subject matter for lampooning ! (Anybody out there know about any other 'imperfections', in the world ?)I can always include my Just-in-time Wheel Spokes. Will post that. Thanksl

author: Analog Kid
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 12:50:42 am
content: Quote from: RJSV on March 25, 2025, 11:57:18 pmI don't think a little bit of ink would do the spaghetti "stamp" much harm.

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 01:02:24 am
content: In case you are curious, I've included here my Just-In-Time SPOKE design concept. (Please see photos).Thirty years old invention, capable of inducing 'whimsical novel curiousity magnet...it even does use magnetic components.Problem as viewed by museum patrons is of a turning wheel, whose supporting columns seem to, (impossibly), go right through the spokes, even though the wheel keeps turning!In photo; The main beam is shown in clockwise motion. This partial view only showing a portion of the connector rotor.

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 01:19:51 am
content: The stationary frame is shown now, being similar to a table top lamp frame. The goal is to show viewers an 'impossible' trick mechanism.As the big MAIN WHEEL turns, the lateral spokes must disengage, and yield to the vertical (stationary) colum. Needs a magnetic latching, for being connected to the big wheel rim.

author: Analog Kid
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 01:29:32 am
content: I don't get it.You need a better explanation (written, graphic or both).

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 01:43:34 am
content: Ahh, My GOAL ! With 39 kids in TECH Museum gift shop !Picture this time helps show the assembled thingy, with the red wheel having three spokes.Underneath the unit is a processor, responsible for cycling the electro-magnets that detatch app my spoke, but only just before collision with column,...then restores the integrity of the spokesaround,on the other side.

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 01:47:57 am
content: Hey folks, readers !Sorry if my broken phone screen messed up the views. Last one staying rotated.Someday: new one !!

author: Analog Kid
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 01:53:10 am
content: OK, better; buthowexactly are the spokes "detached" and re-attached?

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 01:53:49 am
content: Course you could also do this 'get out of the way' thing, by having each of many columns, that get out of the way of an oncoming spoke, but columns are usually built heavy.o

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 02:01:38 am
content: This is the best part, because the mob of students sees the function, and now are demanding to know how that disconnect and re-attach is done .ARDUINO with several sensors and an electro-magnet for each spoke, to do the temporary bonds needed for a normal wheel support while it turns. It's just that this attached gets broke for the brief moment of near contact.

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 02:08:42 am
content: Now that I'm thinking on that, maybe a yielding column could have all the extras, for hiding to an oncoming spoke!That way the wheel itself would be fairly normal.

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 02:21:19 am
content: Right now there probably teams of Chinese, India folks and a smattering of other TECH SPIES although I don't mind the attention.I say, in the context, maybe teams attempting to build my, brain-fevered contraption.AND, HEY : Maybe one of the spies, in snarky mood, will SEND ME ONE !

author: RJSV
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timestamp: March 26, 2025, 04:24:15 pm
content: The photo shows a more realistic 3 lobed balanced rotor where the spokes have the smaller members moved out of the way just when that member would be colided with stationary support post.After some thought, I'm thinking that the break and re-attach functionality involves, at the least, an ESCAPEMENT style.Next, I will show that. Thanks for reading.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 26, 2025, 04:46:07 pm
content: Mechanical Escapement ?A view is shown (diagram), where the connector member is starting to rotate CCW (counter clockwise).Just missing the stationary column you can see that this moving part could then come into position, for a next encounter. This is very similar to a conventional (clock) escapement,...if not an actuality.That's what escapements do, as each 'tick' ends with positioning for the next, increment of motion. In this case, the individual motions are to be under Arduino control, or similar.Hard to decipher, sorry. But I'm wondering what machinery, out there, has this feature. ?Haven't shown yet, the capture or re-capture, of the tips, for the Just-in-time supporting of the wheel in place.l