Rant:  I have 10 digits!  I have a keyboard and a mouse! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: paulca
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 06:30:52 pm
content: There is an entire generation (it seems) now developing front ends to applications and website who seemingly never actually tested with an honest sit-down PC with a keyboard and mouse. In some cases I don't think they have even used one outside of dev work!It's been a cancer plaguing the PC eco system for a while now with the advent of "multimedia keyboards". No! Before that. Have you noticed that your mouse has a button on the middle scroll wheel? Windows has never supported this, (except to create a scroll dragger). Windows supports 2 buttons. The 3rd button is not standard and has to be customly supported. Compared with say Linux where it's used ever minute. Multimedia keyboards. At least a tiny amount of standards kinda appeared. But recently "psuedo function keys" have become the normal on wireless keyboards. If you press F4 for example, instead of F4 being sent, SLEEP is sent. The F keys DEFAULT to they alt function now!Now with the advent of mobile apps and worse still, multi-platform UI frameworks which will "generate" your UI for HTML for wearable, mobile, smart tv or PC all from one set of input files.It just seems that more and more UIs are only 1 button aware. "back buttons" in browsers and in HTTP in general is taboo! And OMG keyboard short cuts. How hard is "cursor left/right is forward/back" in a media program? Why in 2022 are we STILL asking for this as standard?We are never going to get it, because UI development has lost it's course completely. I see UIs on CI/CD environments like IBM's UDeploy where critical production deployments, including DB scripts can accidentally be run 14 TIMEs! because the submit button remained active while it was chewing on the request for 120seconds and the bored dev spammed it and generated 14 valid deployment requests. Guys... that was dealt with decades ago. 1. Deactivate the event handler on click. 2. Grey the button out. 3. Add UUID to the form so you know when its a resub.... and if you tell the young people of today that... they won't believe you."Ayeee..."Ex:Hitting RETURN does not submit the form you are in.Hitting "BACK" takes you back to the home page of the website.

author: strawberry
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 07:08:38 pm
content: they transferred software testing/debuging over customers because it is cheaper and fasterreporting, if that bud is not critical they wont care much

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 07:17:33 pm
content: To me the backspace acting as a "Back" is the worst offender of the OP's post. This issue is not new and was discussed already in many places, including the EEV.

author: paulca
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 07:28:16 pm
content: Quote from: rsjsouza on September 23, 2022, 07:17:33 pmI was about to suggest, maybe we should merge this with the Daily Rant thread. (There is one right?)

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 07:30:02 pm
content: Software is written for monkeys limited to dragging a finger or two across a piece of glass.In 20 years it will be created solely by said monkeys too and the transition to modern UI paradigm will be complete and irreversible.Another thing to the list:webshits and other shitware which, in the name of cross-platform unification, remove mouse-over information displays.I have said it already today, and I have said it several times before, and I will repeat again: if you ever get a chance to go back in time, please get us rid of Steve Jobs, thank you.

author: paulca
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 07:31:36 pm
content: Quote from: rsjsouza on September 23, 2022, 07:17:33 pmIt's ironic that even the language affords it be used to go backwards. It's just that morons couldn't understand it was also backspace when in a text edit context. That alienated 80% of the market. We lost.

author: paulca
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 07:35:15 pm
content: Magic... magic!We hate M$ sometimes, but at least tooltips were credited to them alone and a brillant idea.I got an odd email the other day, open it and there was a button to press. I literally, you will laugh, held my finger over the button and looked into the corner of the screen expecting to the see the actual URL. How DO mobile monkeys stay safe? It's it entirely under Google supervision? Well... they aren't even adults!

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 07:39:13 pm
content: Quote from: paulca on September 23, 2022, 07:35:15 pmI guess, by double penetration authentication and rising prices of fraud insurance(I recall a rant thread about the latter, recently).

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 09:08:29 pm
content: Quote from: magic on September 23, 2022, 07:30:02 pmWould make a good storyline for the next Terminator movie series

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 09:29:06 pm
content: Quote from: magic on September 23, 2022, 07:30:02 pmAnd that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Like him or not, he propelled the computer industry towards usability in ways nobody else did. The things you hate are almost certainlynothis doing.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2022, 09:35:45 pm
content: Quote from: tooki on September 23, 2022, 09:29:06 pmDitto.