Anyone have experience with Argus 4 P7130? - Page 1
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author: Logan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2022, 11:31:07 am
content: The information is too few upon search.Anyone can tell what core/sensor it use, and it's performance comparing to other cameras?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2022, 01:02:26 pm
content: The designer of that cameras electronics package is a member of this forumI will let him describe his "baby"I own three Argus 4 cameras, the 160, 320 and 320HR versions. I like them a lot but do remember that they are carefully designed for fire fighting and so a little different to a generic camera design. They use a custom electronics package that drives a good quality ULIS A-Si microbolometer. I like the fact that the battery bay in the top offers the option of different battery "modules" that can provide Wi-Fi, Ethernet, DVR, External power or external composite video. I own most of the optional modules and a good selection of battery packsThe battery pack uses six AA Ni-Mh cells and is relatively easy to rebuild, thanks to its sensible design. The battery case is held together with screws.Fraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2022, 01:07:15 pm
content: http://www.fire-tics.co.uk/A4.htmManual:https://assets.tequipment.net/assets/1/26/Argus4-User-Manual1.pdfDatasheet:http://www.hempfieldfireequip.com/downloads/argus4_english.pdfhttps://www.aepint.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Argus-4-HR320.pdfFraser

author: Logan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2022, 01:58:10 pm
content: Thank you Fraser.Quote from: Fraser on July 28, 2022, 01:02:26 pmAhhh Bill W!Quote from: Fraser on July 28, 2022, 01:02:26 pmWhat do you feel about the performance of it? I have bad experiences with A-Si sensors, but I've heard ULIS sensors are really good.How does your Argus perform under "flat" scenes, compare to other VOX/BST cameras?

author: ArsenioDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2022, 04:57:04 pm
content: ULIS sensors are downright incredible, the three units I have handily make the best images from any of my cameras, full stop.Even beating out newer VOx (though chinese made).

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2022, 12:13:41 am
content: OK... adding to the manual / fire-tics links Fraser has given ...SensorUlis 0319, 320x240, peltier setpoint controlled.'Core':e2v own design, DSP based.Direct driven LCDP7130 is 30Hz image rate, there is a 9Hz export free version - the P7109.Sensor run at 60Hz and averaged.'Ambient' range mode to 150°C with MDTD around 50mK.Will image up to 1000°C in 3 gain modes, with worsening MDTD.As good an image as any around. Much better than the earlier P7030. While VOx is a better material, VOx cameras use that advantage to have cheaper lenses, less gain modes and so on. Result - no better images.Built like the proverbial brick *********. No problem with 2m drops, throwing against walls etc, except damage to the wall.As with all bolometers, eventually will show some column nonuniformity between shutter NUC operations on a flat scene. However the peltier control helps there a lot, and shutter NUC is set to 5 minutes. Also the mimimum range span is 8°C so it does not show.User control is just images and setting up colours, see manual. You are stuck with my choice of gain / minimum range and so on.Images saved as proprietary format and output as bmp/jpg from customer software (freely available), images attached are straight off the camera.Limitations:Does not do measurement across the scene. Fixed centre temperature measurement.No ready access to raw image data (ie I cannot find, remember or reverse engineer the format).Video recording / stream / analogue out via accessories only, although analogue is a simple hack to a battery.Network streaming is also a battery hack, if somewhat odd in setup. Again your friendly global support centre will assistBill

author: dalittle
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2022, 03:06:06 am
content: I always thought you boys in Chelmsford did a brilliant job with Argus.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2022, 07:04:33 am
content: I love my Argus 4 cameras. Designed to be versatile through use of its optional Battery PodsI know that the image quality is not quite as good as the Argus 4, but I also love the MiTic 320 that I have. I wonder if it was available in Blue? (my favourite colour) It is a compact, very solid, personal thermal camera that feels good in the hand and produces very nice imagesAgain it is a fire fighting camera so it is a different beast to something designed for generic use, such as the FLIR E8 or similar. The MiTic is a beautiful piece of design. For balance, I also love the Bullard Eclipse and still actively hunt for a nice example on eBay. I kick myself every day for not buying a very nice navy blue coloured Bullard Eclipse 320 some years ago on ebay.de. One of my greatest regrets when it comes to missed eBay purchases. I am also a fan of the ISG-Infrasys E380. I love the case design and it appears almost "organic" in shape. The Bullard Eclipse is a similar "Organic" case design. They are both a little like a gourd in shape as they have a waist

author: Logan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2022, 01:55:31 pm
content: Thank you everyone!

author: Lankygoku
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 26, 2022, 02:10:26 am
content: We're can I get a new computer cable or how should I rewire one?

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2022, 09:41:26 am
content: Ask me, which you have done,www.fire-tics.co.ukis my website. That said post UK to AUS might not be cheap.Will reply later.Making your own depends on getting that 4 way Fischer connector for a reasonable price.S102-A-053-130 is what you need.regardsBill