replacing lost/damaged ON-OFF button of Tektronix TDS1002/TDS210... - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / repair

author: carl_lab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2017, 12:07:28 pm
content: Please, can anybody help me to find a replacement for this push button?I need one for TDS1002 (lost) and one for TDS210 (broken/missing latch).TDS210 part and TDS1002 part seem to be identical.

author: carl_lab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 10:14:30 am
content: Got a reply from german Tektronix support center (CalPlus):Tektronix 366-0856-00, push button power switch cap, price for 10 pieces:170EUR (~182USD) + 19% tax ...Are these made of gold?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 10:25:13 am
content: They're not listed but you should try Sphere:http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/tek-parts/tek-knobs.html

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 10:44:32 am
content: For the missing button, I would try to find something that fits. For the broken latch (the one on my TDS 210 is also broken), I just use it as is. Gravity works fine to hold it in place, as I rarely use the scope upside down.A little piece of double-sided mounting tape could be added, if that is a problem.John

author: JFJ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 03:43:54 pm
content: Quote from: carl_lab on March 20, 2017, 10:14:30 amPrices like that could make having the buttons 3D printed quite economic. Especially, as there may be suitable designs already available online, e.g:http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1426499http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1991220http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:39909

author: carl_lab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 05:54:32 pm
content: Quote from: JFJ on March 20, 2017, 03:43:54 pmThat's great, thank you!

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 06:16:26 pm
content: I was just discussing with a friend the other day how these buttons always seem to be missing, he mentioned he also has a scope that is missing the button. Tek is usually really good when it comes to the details but they dropped the ball somewhere with that button. I mean how hard is it to come up with a molded plastic button that doesn't fall off?

author: Bushougoma
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 06:40:05 pm
content: Who's the manufacturer of that switch E-switch?Try Digikey it probably won't be an exact color match but hopefully you can find something.http://www.digikey.com/products/en/switches/accessories-caps/210?k=&pkeyword=&pv98=2&FV=ffe000d2&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&stock=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=500

author: carl_lab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 06:46:15 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on March 20, 2017, 06:16:26 pmI think the problem is old brittle plastics, in combination with weak latches...Quote from: Bushougoma on March 20, 2017, 06:40:05 pmI'll open the scope and tell you tomorrow.

author: Bushougoma
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 07:04:57 pm
content: That particular shade of blue is a color E-switch uses.It kind of looks like the P227 series:http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/e-switch/P227EE1CXC/EG1026-ND/271715Even if you can't find a manufacturer you can measure your existing cap and comb through Digikey to find something that fits.Quote from: carl_lab on March 20, 2017, 06:46:15 pmYeah HP / Agilent / Keysight / Insert name Herehad that issue with the key caps on their E36xx series power supplies.I don't know what they are made of but they crack like nobodies business.

author: JFJ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 07:31:26 pm
content: Quote from: Bushougoma on March 20, 2017, 06:40:05 pmThe problem with commercially available button caps is that they tend to be too short - typically 11.2 mm high (the Tektronix button is 18 mm high).An alternative to 3D printing a button, might be to buy small square button, and build it up to the size and shape of a Tektronix button with something likeMilliput.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 08:01:40 pm
content: I haven't seen one of these buttons outside of a scope, but you might be able to make one out of a piece of Delrin stock, cut to size, shape it with a belt sander or file and drill a hole in one end to fit the switch. Another idea is find an off the shelf button that will fit and then stick it on a rigid tube stuck on the switch.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 08:56:33 pm
content: Quote from: Bushougoma on March 20, 2017, 06:40:05 pm(TDS2***B) should be very similar, maybe same.Marked: JPP2295M, P227Shaft 3.3mm square and ~8.7mm long

author: Bushougoma
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2017, 10:26:41 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on March 20, 2017, 08:56:33 pmYup that part is made by E-switch P227 is the series.

author: carl_lab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2017, 10:58:00 am
content: Quote from: JFJ on March 20, 2017, 07:31:26 pmOK, then I try to find a way to 3d-print the buttons...

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2017, 07:08:17 pm
content: Quote from: carl_lab on March 21, 2017, 10:58:00 amMeasuring the one I have in my hand: 17.1 mm long, 10.65 mm wide (tapers to top) and 6.57 mm thick (tapers to top)............I would make one from a offcut of nylon, plastic or whatever I could find similar. A corner from mums chopping board even.Corner to corner measurement of the switch shaft is 4.45 mm but we already know the shaft is 3.3 mm square so say drill a 4 mm hole and flie some steel square @ ~4 mm to use as a broach to square up the hole some.Some Blue Tac or chewing gum to hold it on....done. Easy.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2017, 07:17:14 pm
content: Try these guys too:http://www.qservice.tv/tek_spares8.htm

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2017, 07:38:40 pm
content: Further thoughts:Open the casing hole ever so slightly so that any push button you might manufacture can be slightly larger in cross section and therefore less thin where the hole is drilled. More robust.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2017, 08:07:43 pm
content: I don't think that is necessary. Looking at the photos of the original button it seems that it's hollow. Make it of solid material and it will be very strong.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2017, 08:17:39 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on March 21, 2017, 08:07:43 pmIt might not be.It has a pair of catches that grab onto the recesses of the switch shaft. If these are broken away it will appear to look hollow.

author: cj555
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2017, 03:17:57 am
content: This is great stuff. I also have a 1002 missing the power button. Then I stumbled across this thread accidentally (clicked the next thread button instead of next page of thread). Some good ideas, I had kind of resigned myself to just Jerry rigging something, but now maybe I will do otherwise.Although, I was informed by tech-support that part is still available, at least back in May. And assuming that I had gotten the right part number from the service manual or wherever I found it…Thank you for contacting Tektronix. The 366085600 is still a current part we have cost is about $12. We do have a $30 minimum order amount.To order a part call 1-800-833-9200 opt 1.Or send an email to buy@tektronix.comScott CherryTektronix Technical Support Team | Phone: 800-833-9200 option 3 |www.tektronix.com/techsupportRequest/Inquiry :Hi, wondering if I could get hold of the 366-0856-00 power button part for my scope. I can't find it on your site (not surprising given the age of the scope). Failing that, might you have a drawing available so I could make my own?