consolidation wave : Nokia Buys alcatel / Lucent - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2016, 03:39:55 pm
content: Nokia just forked over 15.6 Billion Euro's to buy Alcatel Lucent...

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2016, 04:15:46 pm
content: Poor Ericsson

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2016, 06:48:09 pm
content: Quote from: madires on January 04, 2016, 04:15:46 pmCheese being moved again. Poor (Alcatel Lucent & Ericsson) employees...My best wishes to them. Not a fun thing.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2016, 09:50:53 pm
content: At least this time it's a honest takeover, not that rubbish 'merge' process that has been Nokia-Siemens-Networks

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2016, 09:55:26 pm
content: Quote from: bitwelder on January 04, 2016, 09:50:53 pmWhat is the difference of "honest takeover" vs "merge"?I have in mind you may mean something like "keeping it intact, fix it, then sell the now fixed company at higher price". Is that what you mean?

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2016, 12:46:10 am
content: No matter how much they consolidate, their fate outside of the West has been written: those guys cannot compete in a free market.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2016, 06:23:21 pm
content: Quote from: Rick Law on January 04, 2016, 09:55:26 pmTakeover = I eat youMerge = We are equal partners in this new synergetic company

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2016, 09:07:27 pm
content: Quote from: bitwelder on January 05, 2016, 06:23:21 pmI understand what you are trying to distinct now. But come now, equal partners? Yeah, there was one I recall (could have been Lucent) that tried to have two CEO's for a while, but like snakes with two heads, it doesn't increase the odd of success. On the contrary, it probably just lead to confusion.Nokia was once a lumber company. Now it has changed hands at least twice. It would be interesting if and how much longer that name sticks around.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2016, 09:14:04 pm
content: Nokia is named after ... the city of Nokia in Finland.. and it was a paper-mill , lumber and bicycle tire company. they still make car tires and tires for forestry equipment as well as rubber boots.The borged Salon Radio ( Salora , based in the city of Salo ) And Mobira ( Also based in Salo ). They also borged ITT . Micronas is then again (was) a spin-off from Nokia

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2016, 11:18:51 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on January 05, 2016, 09:14:04 pmThe lumber part we are in agreement. I thought Nokia was named after the river.In any event, companies changing is part of life. Change is not always comfortable, but something one must factor into as one plans one's career.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 01:17:39 am
content: Either way somehow Nokia manages to stay on top and let others (M$ for example) bleed for their failures. In a certain way that is pretty impressive! I just don't get want they want with Alcahell and Loose end in the era where a PABX is nothing more than a PC with VOIP software.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 02:48:38 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on January 06, 2016, 01:17:39 amThe PABX and PSTN switch markets are dead. However, Alcatel Lucent are a big supplier of fibre systems, from the backbone stuff right down to the PON stuff for FTTH. That's a long term market, Even wireless systems require a strong fibre backbone.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 10:48:13 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on January 06, 2016, 01:17:39 amHave you looked at their web page? They deliver the complete infrastructure for running telcos, carriers and mobile phone networks.