POST Hacking Rigol MSO5000 - POST HACKING TUTORIAL - DEEP DIVE - Page 1
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author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2024, 12:40:59 pm
content: Hi Guys,The purpose of this post is....After you have unlocked your Rigol MSO5000 You may want to learn how to use every feature of the scope.I have received a lot of requests to help people- Unlock their scope- Help when unlocking goes wrong- How to use the scope because they are beginners and are not sure how to use their scopesThis Post hopes to achieve 3 GoalsGoal 1 - To Explain to you how to upgrade the scope and confirm that you've actually done it correctlyGoal 2 - To show you what to do after you upgrade the scope and how to set things upGoal 3 - To walk you through your scope (Every Feature) and teach you how to really take advantage of your scope.(This will mainly benefit the beginner)FIRST OF ALL, CREDIT WHERE IT'S DUEHere is the original Posthttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopes/Here is a post i created later that was shorterhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/solutions-and-troubleshooting-hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopes/Moving forward1. I have created a few videos for you guys so i don't need to keep explaining things over and over.2. The videos are also there for the beginners because you're not going to absorb everything straight away, so, Keep them as reference, Learn from the knowledge and expand upon it and explore for yourselvesHERE IS A LINK TO THE CLOUD (it's safe and virus free)https://mega.nz/folder/OsJyFY5A#8uS0fmepgBdNrXqvnxmFfg(Save this link so you can get the future video uploads)There are several things on this cloud- The Rigol MSO5000 User Manual (RTFM) You should read it- All the Upgrade files "Upgrading to 350MHz"NOTE : This set of files takes you from Version FW:01_03_00_03 to FW:01_03_03_00YOUR SCOPE MUST START ON FW:01_03_00_03 for this to work, if it is on a lower version, Message me and i'll give you another .GEL File.UPDATE :the above method is the"Patching Method",The Patched method DOES NOT survivefirmware upgardes, The better way to do it is to use the Dr Mefist0LICENSING METHODusing the python script. This methodwill survive all future upgradeswhich means you never need to patch your scope again and you'll be free to just download legitimateRigol update files from the website and install them.The link to the detailed information on how to perform the Licensing Method is herehttps://mega.nz/folder/OsJyFY5A#8uS0fmepgBdNrXqvnxmFfgNow even though the purpose of this post is not primarily to help you upgrade, i have included the files for convenience because everyone keeps asking "where are the files" so here they ALL are in one place, Just download the file, Unzip itand follow the instructions in each folderThen i have 2 spreadsheets there so far.- Capacitor Inventory and Test List(For Accurately Testing E.S.R. on a capacitor) This is covered in the videos- Inductance Value Calculator(For establishing the value of an unknown inductor. This is a spreadsheet that Automates the math)You're going to need to build a tank circuit to test the inductorThe formulae in this spreadsheet are password protected so you don't accidentally erase themthe password for the spreadsheet is abc123 (go to REVIEW then UNPROTECT SHEET)This is just for referenceNOW THE VIDEOSCAUTION: This is not a quick video list, These video's take several hours to go through, As a result i have broken them up into subjects. I don't want to hear TLDR. You either want to learn how use your scope or you're happy to always stay on a basic level in which case this was not the scope for you, you should have paid $100 for a USB Cheapy scope.THESE VIDEOS ARE TO BENEFIT THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT THEIR SCOPE AND TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF WHAT THEY HAVE PAID FOR.Expect to watch at least 5 Hours.That aside, the videos are...1. Intro - 17:57 54.7MB(as the name states, it's an introduction , overview video)2.Firmware Upgrade - 1hr: 3:05 182.4 MB(In this video, before getting into the fun stuff i confirm that you've done everything problem. i run through the Firmware upgrade process and patching process, If you are having problems upgrading then this is the video you want to watch),Use the Upgrade zip file with this video as a step by step walk through.3. The Basics of DSO 1hr:19:28 311.0 MB(In this video we start walking through the basics of using your scope by only covering basic concepts)NOTE : For experienced users there will be features here that you are not aware of, so it's worth watching.4. All the Settings 1hr 52:57 410.1 MB(In this video we go through all the settings in MSO5000, A Step by Step walk through of everything)5. ESR Spreadsheet 14:37 46.8 MB(in this video i explain how to use the ESR Spreadsheet when testing capacitors)6. Inductance Spreadsheet 5:54 18.4 MB(In this video i explain how to use the spreadsheet to calculate the inductance of an unknown inductor)7. Using Your Waveform Generator 1hr 17:57 - 262.5 MB(This video goes into depth on how to use your Waveform Generator as well as practical examples of how to test componentswhile doing so )8. Using a Crap AWG 15:27 90.4MB(A Quick video to show the negative affects and reality of buying a cheap Signal Generator vs a better oneand spending more on it. Essentially proving it's not worth buying a cheap one if it doesn't give you what was promised)9 How to Use Cursors on a Scope 2hrs 00:33 451.6 MB(In this video i go into depth on how to user Cursors on an Oscilloscope and give several practical examples of wherethey are useful )10. Math and FFT 39:53 185.4 MB(In this video i explain Math Functions on the scope and go into depth with F.F.T. )THAT'S IT, THOSE 10 VIDEOS , I FEEL SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO GET ANYONE UP AND RUNNING WITH THEIR SCOPEUPDATE - 2 Additional Videos have been added11. MSO5000 vs DS2000A 14:23 97.5MB(in this video i look at how a recent number of updates to the DS2000A has caused it to perform better vs the MSO5000)12 . HELP Menu 197.5 1hr 11:21(in this video we explore the internal Help Menu in full)13. MSO REFERENCE Menu(In this video we look at creating Reference Wave forms for analysis)Any Questions, Let me knowBE COOL

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2024, 04:15:11 pm
content: This is beyond EPIC.Much appreciated.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2024, 04:50:47 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 28, 2024, 04:15:11 pmThanks man i really appreciate that.There's more videos to come but go through that now, bit by bit.I've got around another 4 or 5 videos to record and edit and then it'll be doneThe idea here- Get everyone upgraded correctly- Set the meter up properly , Post Upgrade- Then , considering that it's a bloody expensive scope, LEARN HOW TO BLOODY USE IT LOLI've included Practical examples in the video of how to test components that beginners normally wouldn't know to dosuch as Inductors and Xtal's , I've got stuff there where i contrast the features of the digital scope with an Analog CROso you guys can see the evolution of it and how it becomes easier.I've then also integrated some spectrum analyzer stuff in there to make things clearer when it comes to thinking outside the box. this also helps when understanding FFTI'm making a point of putting focus on cursor measurements and understanding how all that worksand some basic math functionsThe idea here is that i give everyone a push in the right direction beyond the basics and give you some in depth knowledgeand after that the idea is that you guys will be able to troubleshoot further and learn more on your own and understand what you're looking at in your scopeso again, Thanks for the comment , Reallly appreciate it, wasn't sure how many people would actually go for listening to around 10 hours of tutorial on their scopebut hey.. it's got a lot of features, it can't be a 10min video

author: Protegimus
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2024, 08:05:55 pm
content: Massive thanks for this Martin!

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2024, 10:34:56 pm
content: Quote from: Protegimus on March 28, 2024, 08:05:55 pmYou're Welcome, I appreciate it,I have around 2 more videos to do and then it'll be complete.So far there are 7 Uploaded and readyAlso, Let me know if you guys have any ideas, Any questions about the scope that i missed.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2024, 10:41:04 pm
content: I had the scope a few years ago and am no longer quite up to date:Is it still the case that you have to renew the hack as soon as you load new firmware onto the scope?If so, then nothing has changed in the last 5 years...

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:18:07 am
content: Quote from: Martin72 on March 28, 2024, 10:41:04 pmNot sure what you mean by "renew the hack"Simply stated...Your MSO5000 is likely going to come with Firmware version 01.03.00.03it may also come with 01.03.02.02so you have a firmware version that you will start on, In my case, i also got mine ages ago and i started on 01.03.00.03if i recall.From this version you can upgrade to the current version 01.03.03.00All you have to do is (as per the video)1. do 2 Backup2. Do the upgrade to 350MHz and unlocking all the other options3. Patch the firmwarethat's it,So... What's your deal1. What Firmware version is your scope currently on ?2. Do you want to upgrade it to the current version ?If yes, I can help you, If no, then all goodBut i don't know what you mean by , Renewing the hack. Maybe it's better we don't use the word "Hack" but instead say"Firmware Update" Now.. a firmware update is just software in the onboard chip.once it's in there and it's the correct one, it's there and you don't need to do anythingThe "Software Options" that are available are in the firmware and unlocakble.The .GEL file combined with the patch unlocks them for you.and once it's unlocked, (Unless you do something or the unit is badly faulty) it's in there permanentlyDoes that help ?

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:20:57 am
content: Quote from: Martin72 on March 28, 2024, 10:41:04 pmSimply put, if you are on version 1.3.0.3 and you want upgrade You just need to1. Go to the link in the first message2. Download the zip file called Upgrading to 350MHz3. Download only the 2nd video and watch itit explains everything step by step

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 02:44:03 am
content: Just and FYI to Everyone,All the videos are now edited and Uploaded, Hope you guys enjoy them.These video's won't be available permanently as they take up a huge chunk of my online storage.I imagine i'll keep them there for at least 1 month and then after that i'll decided what i want to do.I will always keep the videos regardless, and perhaps after i remove them from the cloud, if people request it,i can still upload it and give them access to it, But as it stands these videos are consuming approx 50GB of my Cloud storage.Anyway, for now.... ENJOY

author: KeBeNe
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 05:10:15 am
content: Quote from: Martin72 on March 28, 2024, 10:41:04 pmHey Martin,yes, you still have to use the patch after every update.

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 06:04:56 am
content: Letw get this straight. You need to re patch after each update or you lose the options you added?If so , them we should expect that the hack will be fixed at some point.Finally I guess you can just return the scope to it's older self with the back and re hack it, keeping it in an older FW version.Am I correct in my assumption?

author: Protegimus
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 07:18:10 am
content: You need to keep up Martin72, things have changed.That said, applying the original update following a firmware update is very straightforward; not at all a bind and keeps the MSO5000 fully featured.Back on topic - Martin, thanks for the additional videos man, will work through them.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 07:50:33 am
content: Quote from: Protegimus on March 29, 2024, 07:18:10 amHis question was not how easy it was.With Rigol DS1000Z you applied the licenses and after that scope was unlocked and you didn't have to patch anything ever again, even if you loaded new firmware.So his question was very on the topic, and he asked itbecausehe wanted to keep up...So answer to his question is : Yes,every timeyou load new firmware you need to patch upagain, but process was made to be very easy, so it is not a problem. But you need to patch up every time, it is not one time job as it was on a Z machine..

author: Protegimus
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 09:59:27 am
content: No, you have no relevance here.Although hacking is mentioned in the title the purpose here is to share skills and information on how to use the very capable modified MSO5000 to its full potential.For hacking (as you well know) you need to read the other thread and I'd recommend paying attention to posts from DrMefistO, especially Reply #2739. From those you will learn that the situation has changed and the scope can now be modified either way. Easily.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopes/2725/Quote from: 2N3055 on March 29, 2024, 07:50:33 am[edit: lots more information from reply #2672 onward in the above linked thread]

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 10:15:15 am
content: Quote from: Protegimus on March 29, 2024, 09:59:27 amWhat has no relevance here is this type of comment.As you say, the title refers "post hacking" so a very reasonable question was made. And a very easy answer could have been posted. Patched or licensed, only that.Some are already aware of DrMefistO licensing method BUT a few are also aware that writing with fixed offsets in the FRAM, as DrMefistO does, AFAIR, can lead to bad results. Not all MSO5000's FRAM structure are equal.When someone posts the correct way to insert licenses into the FRAM then ALL will finally have the "easy" way for sure.

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 11:41:14 am
content: I have tried to use the script and it failed for me deleting the add-ons o had form the bundle i had.As I mentioned inhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopes/2750/I followed other instructions and everything when great having a fully powered mso5354 now. The question is which patch do I need to run to keep the scope supercharged and what is your assessment of the possibility of the patch being disabled in future fw updates

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:15:59 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 29, 2024, 06:04:56 amHere's my 2 centsRe the patch after every update, Right .... but how often do we update them ?I've got a DS2000A , i think i've had it for 10 Years now, Did the original update and unlocked all the options, Now, there is a current newerversion, do i need it... No not reallySo on one hand it may be the case that we may need to, On the other (at least speaking for myself) who cares.and another point, if we are going to talk about inconvenience.... THIS IS WHAT WE DO , We put effort into out scopes so we can havethese unlocked options and if that means say every 3 or 4 years having to do it again, why is that an issue. and even if we decide nowthat it has to be done, things may change in a few years anyway and it may or may not need it.for me, i don't think we need to but even if we do, i don't see the big deal with it anyway.

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:28:05 pm
content: It's bo big deal that's for sure. I'm merely thinking about IF one should be careful.and maybe even get a backup pre upgrading just in case they decide to undo our hacking.Tbh I don't think updating is needed unless some glaring issue arises.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:29:37 pm
content: Quote from: Protegimus on March 29, 2024, 07:18:10 am1. RE "You need to keep up Martin72"WHO IS MARTIN 72?2. What things do i need to keep up with ?I help people with these upgrades all the time, the last one was yesterday , then 2 days before that, i would assume that if i wasn't upto date with something then the updates wouldn't have worked properly, But.. by all means tell me what i'm not up to date with or atleast point me to a post that shows where i left off and what i need to brush up on.3. RE "That said, applying the original update following a firmware update is very straightforward; not at all a bind and keeps the MSO5000 fully featured."True, but keep in mind My original post was not focussed on the actual update, the focus was on the fact that i noticed a lot of peopleupgrade their scope then don't know what to do with the scopeor... They kinda do but they don't really and they only end up with basic skills like , feeding in a signal, Looking at it , Changing vertical andHorizonal controls and maybe putting the probes on an L.E.D. and not knowing much beyond that.All the benefits of the scope seem to go out the window the math functions the reference features , FFT , deep nested offset features thattrick the person into something is wrong, phase adjustments, time saving features like loading a setup file, capturing waveforms for reference,understanding decode, understanding L.A. etc etcI have seen this behaviour with techs that i have trained in the past, in this example i refer to TV antenna and Satellite techs, whereby they have a spectrum analyzer, usually a RoverSAT and all they know how to do is to use the pre loaded profiles, then.. the carrier changes frequency but the profile holds the old transponder settings and they sit their scratching their head.They have this beast of a machine but don't know how to use itso that was the focus of the 10 video's, Not so much the upgrade but how do we have fun after the upgrade and use it to it's fullest potentialand through the video tutorial process my hope is that it would open a lot of doors and open their minds to what is actually possible and do able.and lastlyYOU'RE VERY WELCOME FOR THE VIDEO'SIn truth i'm happy that you guys are actually enjoying it, I wasn't sure to be honest, I thought to myself... Who the fuck is going to watch10 Hours of tutorial , I mean.. I would , but i do understand most people are not like me So i do GENUINELY appreciate that you guys are appreciating the videos and actually getting use out of it and as far as i'm concerned if no one else other than you guys and a few in the backround i think a total of around 15 now get use out of these videos and no one ever looks at them again, it'll still be worth my time.it's cool that you guys like the video's........... THANK YOU SINCERELY

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:40:39 pm
content: Quote from: Protegimus on March 29, 2024, 09:59:27 amRE "No, you have no relevance here."Who has not relevance here ?RE "Although hacking is mentioned in the title the purpose here is to share skills and information on how to use the very capable modified MSO5000 to its full potential."EXACTLY !!! YOU GOT ITThe entire purpose here is to use the scope to it's fullest potential, Because sinced we forked out a pretty penny for it and it will very likelybe a scope that we'll have pretty much for the rest of our lives , Why not learn it in and out ?and it's about knowledge and contrasting CRO's against DSO's and MSO's which i have purposely included in the video's for the benefit of thosethat don't have a CRO and don't understand them. and i have purposely included some practical examples and tests that people can useto think outside the box a little and i have included unusual tests that beginners would not think to do such as ...How to test inductors (instead of throwing them away)How to test a XTAL (so you can pull them out of circuit and test and use them)and a few other things, pretty much just to get people to think outside of the box and understand the features of the scope and what is possibleI MENTIONED HACKING IN THE TITLE so that when a search is done to upgrade the scope , that the person will stumble upon this.I INCLUDED THE UPGRADE PROCESS HERE so that just in case they didn't go to the hacking thread first, they could get it here as wellI INCLUDED THE LINKS TO THE ORIGINAL THREAD so that they could go there and know what it's all aboutthe hacking title was merely included for search indexing reasons.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:45:41 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on March 29, 2024, 10:15:15 amFair comment , but let's put emphasis in the title on the wordPOSTHacking.Meaning, what you do with your scope AFTER you've hacked itthe idea of this post was- Not actually how to hack the scope- but have you applied the patch- Do you know about VNC Viewer- In which case do you have all the quick menu items- Have you done a Self Cal- Have you done a Self Check- Have you setup your scope settings properly- Have you saved those settings in a setup file- Do you know the new features of the scope (the deeper nested features)- Do you know how to use the scope in depthThe operative word here was " POST " Hacking (what to do AFTER sorting the hacking out)

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:49:25 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 29, 2024, 11:41:14 amGo to the MEGA cloud link i provided in the first postIn that drive you will see a folder called UPGRADING TO 350MHZIn Step 3 You can apply the pathCopy those 3 files to a 4GB min USB stick and run Local Updateyou just need to download that zip file and go to step 3 and do that, that's ityes afterwards you can revert to an older version if you like.Also FYI, i have had Absolutely NOT 1 PERSON fail with this process, If anything , people that have failed to upgrade their scopes havesucceeded with the method i provided.let me know how it goes, The zip file isn't large either, i'ts the video's that are huge

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:55:12 pm
content: Maybe i didn't phrase it correctly. Now the scope is full. Everything is as it should be. Calibrated etc too. All options activated. It's just that the script didn't work for me, the layered version you provide works fine

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 12:59:24 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 29, 2024, 12:28:05 pmI Agree, it's not a big deal, but in that zip file i told you to download you are also making a backup in step 1Step 1is the backup partStep 2 is the upgrade to unlock options and full bandwidthStep 3 is the patch that gives you a few other options, Specifically the additional quick menu options so you can actually use your scopeusing VNC Viewer remote software, without having to touch the scope at all.the original quick menu has 15 or 16 items but doesn't have buttons like Acquire , Measure and so on.the upgraded menu has 25 itemsbut as i said before, i have a DSO2000A that has been upgraded 10 years ago, HAVEN'T HAD TO DO A SINGLE UPDATE.there is now a newer version and i'm asking myself, Why do i need to upgrade, I'd be interested to know what's in the new versionbecause my 2000A is running like a champAs far as i'm concerned with my DSO2000A i made the right choice, it out performed the DS1052E, it out performed the DS1054Z(Granted it had 4 channels and built in Sig Gen) but seriously on a spec perspective, Mem depth , front end bandwidth and what not, what matters) my scope still outperformed that, over the years it has been a champ.Only thing that went wrong (Prepare yourself, put down your coffee if you have one) it was once a few years ago on my table in the lounge.my wife went to grab a bill where one part was under the scope (OH YES INDEED PROGRAMS) My wife pulled the bill out and the scopewent crashing to the floor (i know , i know, it broke my heart as well)the rear left corner where that plastic vent mesh was smashed, but not the front panel part,I called John South at Emona and GOOD TO KNOW, he ordered me a new back cover complete with stickers and new serial sticker.other than that, never had a problem with it. This thing fell from a hip high coffee table and still stayed in spec and kept kicking.so as far as i'm concerned when we upgrade these scopes you don't really need to update it again UNLESS YOU NEED TO

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 01:04:00 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 29, 2024, 12:55:12 pmFair enough, Understood.All i did was take the original process and just put it in 3 folders for each stage, and at the backup stage i just made folders to put the backups in,and included a text file in each folder for each step to explain what to do . Not really a big deal. the process itself and the files are actually the originals thoughI think most of the confusion came into play because most of the files are called .GEL files , even the backups and people thought they could use... one file to rule them all, so to speak .but, i'm glad it worked, Now.. You can progress through the videosAlso don't forget1. Do a self check (There are 3 tests to go through, Video Test, Button Test, Touch Digitizer test and calibration)2. Do a self Cal3. Restart the ScopeAs for the setup configuration, You'll have to watch the video for that (it's too long to state here)

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 01:07:51 pm
content: Done all of those alreadyas for the videos the new link has been emailed to you.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 01:33:11 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 29, 2024, 01:07:51 pmYOU ARE A CHAMPION MATEThanks a lot for this, i really appreciate it. The link has been changed.FYI to anyone reading this and wondering "but if i'm downloading it and you just changed the link will i have to start over"ANSWER : No, i will keep the files up for another week to allow downloads to complete. But as of now the new link is in effect.thank you Thor, (God of Thunder and Rock n Roll \m/ \m/)EDIT : to answer your email. Yes all the files are loaded correctly. Thanks

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 07:42:03 pm
content: Glad to be of service to the community.The new link will never be stopped."Heavy metal is the law"

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 10:14:06 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 29, 2024, 07:42:03 pmThey can't stop us....LET EM TRYFOR HEAVY METAL...WE WILL DIE !!!\m/ \m/

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2024, 10:25:39 pm
content: Manowar kick ass.. have met them here after a show. Eric Adams is a great guy. \m/.I'm twice as happy to help a fellow metalhead..

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2024, 07:53:40 am
content: Btw BTO I'm watching the vids and am not sure if you say something later but help buffled me too. So I found out how it works by trying it out. When you are in "content" you just press a button and it goes to that button reference on help so you go on from there

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2024, 10:16:35 am
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 29, 2024, 10:25:39 pmand i appreciate that and i feel the same .METAL FOR LIFE DUDENow... Holy shit.. You met Eric, wowgotta say, i've met a lot of celebrities in my time (as it was part of my job) now most of them are just... yeah whateverand every now and then you meet some good one's, . I've never met eric although he is one of the one's that i would be honoured to meet.then again, How often do they come to Australia , You know.but yeah, that's coolAs they say....I was listening to Manowar and my scope unlocked itself to 500MHz

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2024, 10:18:46 am
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 30, 2024, 07:53:40 am1. What video are you watching , Which Number ?2. Do you mean the contents of the HELP button, is that what your'e talking about ?

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2024, 11:07:01 am
content: Yeah he was cool he came to me with 2 beers and we chatted for some time.I used to work as a sound engineer and had the honor to meet lots of the metal gods I wanted to meet. Sadly I didn't get to meet the ultimate god namely DIO. That would have been epic.I'm watching the "all settings" video number 4.Help option is weird to use imobit when you get the hang of it its fine

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2024, 09:10:18 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 30, 2024, 11:07:01 amso let me get this straight....The guy beside you GAVE YOU A BEER.and when he was talking to you did he also say MY FRIENDS ARE OVER THERE?that's cool man. and Yes i would have also loved to meet DIO, that would've been coolas for the help option, i'll have a look at it and possibly re record that part and have it re uploaded

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2024, 09:21:52 pm
content: Yeah I was the last guy around , it was 4am and I would take the first train out to my uni at 8am so I stayed and watched the crew dismantle the stage etc. I guess the guy thought I was the biggest fan around hahaha.i did shock him though when I gave him a kings of metal cassette to sign.hahaha. he didn't even think those existed anymore. Oh the good old days.

author: BTO
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timestamp: March 30, 2024, 10:03:09 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 30, 2024, 09:21:52 pmLOL... Kings of Metal huh ?....... RESPECT !!

author: ToThePub
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 05:41:55 am
content: Great work BTO.I just re-encoded your videos to h265 which reduced the size by more than 90%The settings video went from 9.3G to 258M, same size, no loss of quality really.If you can, maybe do the same to reduce the file sizes.Or I'm happy to upload my conversion if needed.As a side note, tomtektest on youtube did a 33 part overview of the MSO5000 and functions.Definately have a look and give him a like on the videos.Here's the playlist:His channel:https://www.youtube.com/@tomtektest8042(Don't know the guy, just saw the videos 3 years ago when they were released).Again, thanks BTO.

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 09:37:43 am
content: Tomtektest is very good and he is a follower if the forum but he is against hacking the scope.

author: 3PinFanHeader
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 10:43:35 am
content: Any chance you have a OneDrive or GDrive link to the re-encoded videos?I tried to download from Mega - but got bitten in the butt by a Mega-download limit and now I can't download anything from themAnd thanks to @thorstormlord for making the videos

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 10:45:41 am
content: I'm just the host my friend, making them credit goes to BTO.I'll recode them and make the download smaller then depending the size I may be able to host them on other clouds as well.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 12:01:08 pm
content: Quote from: ToThePub on March 31, 2024, 05:41:55 amthanks mate, that's awesome, Yeah if you could go ahead and upload the encoded smaller one so long as it doesn't reduce the quality because there arezoomed in parts in the video and i would like people see the detail, but if it doesn't have loss then... that's greatalso, What program did you use to encode that like that ?

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 12:06:41 pm
content: @bto don't worry about it mate the vids are being recoded as we speak

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 12:08:29 pm
content: Quote from: 3PinFanHeader on March 31, 2024, 10:43:35 am1. @thorstormlord didn't make the video.. I MADE THE VIDEO'S (LOL i mean it's in the first comment)2. @thorstormlord Did us all the courtesy of hosting it on his MEGA Cloud server since my MEGA Cloud server was very close to full capacity.He has been generous enough to permanently host the video's there so that they are available for all to download, something that i could not have doneas i need my cloud for my business. in my case, i may have kept it there for a month, but then they would have needed to come down to make roomfor my business needs. He has more storage than i do and has been kind enough to (So to speak) Donate his storage space to the community.So that wasn't a small thing that he did, and he didn't have to do it, BUT.. HE DID IT FOR A FELLOW METALHEAD, WHICH IS ALSO HIGHLY RESPECTED.3. RE "I tried to download from Mega - but got bitten in the butt by a Mega-download limit and now I can't download anything from them"that's really weird, in over 20 years i've never heard of that, but.. if it did happen, Download it from another computer.I also wasn't aware that MEGA had a download limit, One would think that the limit would be the limit of the account.But, do i have another cloud... No i don't . This is what we have made available to the forum and for most people (actually all so far) it has worked.Are you able to jump onto another computer to do the downloads ?As another possible solution. you could email me directly (support@btotechnicalexperts.com.au) and with a bit of trust.You could1. Pick the cloud of your choice2. Change the login password to something like abc123 and give me the username3. and i could directly upload the files to your cloud then you can download them at your conveniencebut other than that , I don't see another way to do it,Except, You could post me a hard drive and i could place the files on the hard drive and post it back to you (The postage would be at your cost obviously)what are your thoughts

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 12:12:02 pm
content: Man,1stly the vids are being recoded.2ndly I never really thought about it but yeah mega has a download limit for non users.but anyone can easily make a free account and enjoy.3rdly after vids are recoded I'll find another cloud to host them for the people.Until then a different IP computer will solve the download issue

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 12:12:04 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 31, 2024, 12:06:41 pm1. I Never worry2. thanks a lot , Appreciate it heaps

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 12:22:27 pm
content: Quote from: Protegimus on March 28, 2024, 08:05:55 pmNot a problem You're all welcome

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 12:28:16 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 31, 2024, 10:45:41 amI use OpenShot Video Editor, I'll have a look at doing this as well, and if it works and if i have enough room, i mean if it's 90% smaller, well, i reckoni'll be able to host them then. I'll run a few through the oven and see how they come out.

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 01:05:28 pm
content: I use handbrake, it's open source and quite powerful.

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 02:02:42 pm
content: Videos updated check them out

author: 3PinFanHeader
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 03:10:23 pm
content: Sorry for my misunderstandin friendThank YOU for making them, thank @thorstormlord for reencoding themThank you all for your effortsI hope I didn't rub anyone the wrong way - This is one community I have the utmost respect for

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 03:18:36 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 31, 2024, 01:05:28 pmI've never used handbrake, i'll give it a go.i've just gone through all the video's very quickly1. i can notice a decrease in quality, so.. i'ts not Lossless. HOWEVER...Given that you reduced like 9.5GB to like 2.25GB i think it was. that's bloody awesome and it's good enough to be stillwatchable at the times when i'm showing scopes directly through the webcam so.. WELL DONE MATE, Good job

author: thorstormlord
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 03:22:46 pm
content: Tbh I did encode them on a pretty powerless machine (Microsoft surface) but I can do them on a more powerful gaming pc if your find anything too inappropriate about them.I'll watch them throughout and see if I find anything bad.i may recode that single one.Anyways I don't mind hosting them indefinitely man.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 03:45:23 pm
content: Quote from: 3PinFanHeader on March 31, 2024, 03:10:23 pmNot at all, All good mate.Now, he reduced almost 10GB to 2GBAre you able to download them now ?

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 03:48:54 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 31, 2024, 12:12:02 pm1 i saw that... Cool2. yeah neither did it, Who would think huh ?3. Ok sounds cool, send me the link when you're ready and i'll edit the URL

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 03:52:06 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 31, 2024, 03:22:46 pmNo man, from what i can tell they're fine. They are absolutely watchable, Most of the context takes place on VNC Viewer anyway and what needs to be explained gets explained anyway.as for the rest of it that isn't VNC Based, it's not that bad. JUST LEAVE IT AS IS, Unless someone complains or whatever . But i think it'll be fineUltimately this is about explaining how to use a person's scope to it's full potential, it's not about 4k Video resolution. I think the video's are good enough.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2024, 02:21:15 pm
content: Quote from: thorstormlord on March 31, 2024, 09:37:43 amI watched his video, it's a very good video and shows the evolution of how the functions came about

author: TIP142
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 05, 2024, 09:29:56 am
content: Hello,I was just wondering if there was a published 'hack'/upgrade for a Rigol MSO5072 with Firmware 01.03.02.02. I was just about to follow the guide for 01.03.00.03 and then realized - I should stop!Many thanks

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 05, 2024, 09:59:41 pm
content: Quote from: TIP142 on April 05, 2024, 09:29:56 amNO YOU SHOULDN'T STOP, You are incorrect.Keep goingThis is the publsihed upgrade for 1.3.2.2What i mean is , This post is a post upgrade tutorial but it does include a link to the formal upgrade procedure.As for your problemif you are on 1.3.2.2 just download the file in the link ,which is the file to upgrade to 1.3.3.0 and you'll be fine,There was no reason for you to stop.if you want the file for 1.3.2.2 i can provide that if you like but.. i don't really see the point unless you are on a lower versionand want to upgrade only to 1.3.2.2 and then stay at that version. why would someone do that though, why wouldn't you just upgrade to 1.3.3.0 ?if you want the upgrade file for 1.3.2.2 here it ishttps://mega.nz/folder/A8cEgQRI#5FSoMrCurJi71T7VkRPgYQYou will actually find both upgrade files at this location.But Just understand that you can upgrade from 1.3.2.2 to 1.3.3.0 Using the file that is already provided.Give it a crack . let me know how you go or if you have any issues

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2024, 08:55:14 am
content: Quote from: TIP142 on April 05, 2024, 09:29:56 amCONGRATULATIONS on Upgrading your scope.Now, Watch the video series that has been uploaded her to learn how to fully use your scope.

author: 3PinFanHeader
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2024, 01:24:13 pm
content: Yes, I was able to download it - and am watching as I am able to find timeThanks again - I'm always excited to learn something new or somthing old better

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 08, 2024, 01:05:23 am
content: Quote from: 3PinFanHeader on April 07, 2024, 01:24:13 pmThat's great and you're welcome.By all means GO THROUGH IT SLOWLY and in our own time.it's More important that you digest the information fully as opposed to going through it all in one day.one of the reasons the video's were created is because i understand no newbie is going to digest this on 1 zoom call.You need to watch it and re watch it and keep it as reference, it takes time to sink in.you need to do a few experiments along the way so it sets solid in your mind.so yes, Take your time , But learn it well.

author: BRZ.tech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 12:31:31 am
content: Hi,@BTOI have some questions about using the MSO5000, which I ask you and other colleagues to repeat the test and help with the solution:1. Measure SlewRate of a Square Wave Signal.Connect the MSO5000 GI to CH-1, with Square Wave and f=1MHz, and Amplitude = 1Vpp.See the IMG, notice that the SlewRate Measurement is in the unit of (Mv/s).It turns out that the SlewRate unit is (V/us) and the MSO5000 displays (Mv/s).Besides (v) is in lowercase and should be capitalized (V). The (Mv) means (Mega Volt) which is a very large number, and at the bottom it shows (s) which means (seconds) and should be (us).I was unable to change the Unit of SlewRate in the MSO5000 menu.Check how to resolve this.2. Using the (Ref) function to store IMG of signals and compareWe will use the MSO5000 GI on CH-1, to generate several signals, to be stored in the (Ref) table and in Drive (C). Press the buttons in the sequence:2.1 Generate a Sinosoidal Signal and place it in Memory (Ref1) and save it on Drive (C):(Generate a sinusoidal signal of f = 100KHz and Amplitude = 1Vpp) -> (Ref) => (Ref1) -> (Current = Ref1) -> (SaveToRef) -> (More) -> (Color -> ORANGE) - > (Export) -> (File Type -> *.ref) -> (File Name -> RigolDS0) -> (Save) -> (Close (C) -> x) -> (Menu off)Verify -> Move -> (CH-1 -> V-Position) -> (Verify Signal Yellow and Orange) ->(Press -> CLEAR).2.2 Generate a Square Wave and place it in Memory (Ref5) and save it in Drive (C):(Generate a Square Wave signal of f = 100KHz and Amplitude = 1Vpp) -> (Ref) => (Ref1) -> (Current -> Ref5) -> (SaveToRef) -> (More) -> (Color -> GREEN) -> (Export) -> (File Type -> *.ref) -> (File Name -> RigolDS1) -> (Save) -> (Close (C) -> x) -> (Menu off).Verify -> Move -> (CH-1 -> V-Position) -> (Verify Signal Yellow and Green) ->(Press -> CLEAR).2.3 Generate a Ramp Wave Signal and place it in Memory (Ref10) and save it in Drive (C):(Generate a Ramp Wave signal of f = 100KHz and Amplitude = 1Vpp) -> (Ref) -> (Current -> Ref10) -> (SaveToRef) -> (More) -> (Color -> RED) -> (Export ) -> (File Type -> *.ref) -> (File Name -> RigolDS2) -> (Save) -> (Close (C) -> x) -> (Menu off)Verify -> Move -> (CH-1 -> V-Position) -> (Verify Signal Yellow and Red)-> (Press -> CLEAR).3. Read the Memoirs (Ref):(Power off -> GI)We save different Signals in Memories (Ref1) and (Ref5) and (Ref10).And we save the IMGs in Drive (C), in positions (RigolDS0), (RigolDS1) and (RigolDS2).The objective is to place the Memory Signals (Ref1) and (Ref5) and (Ref10) on the screen to use to compare with a signal of interest:(Press -> Ref) -> (More) -> (Details) -> (See table -> (Ref1) and (Ref5) and (Ref10))Dear @BTO, I can't bring the signals saved in (Ref1) and (Ref5) and (Ref10) to the screen.Check how to do this.4. Read the IMGs saved in Drive (C), place them in the (Ref) table and execute:(Press -> Default -> OK)(Press -> Ref -> Ref1) -> (More) -> (Details) -> (See the table -> is Reset) -> (Close Table -> x) ->(Press -> Import) -> (Local Disk (C)) -> (Select -> RigolDS0.ref) -> (Load)->(Verify -> Saved -> Ref1)-> (Press -> CLEAR) -> (Menu off)(Press -> Ref -> Ref2) -> (More) -> (Import) -> (Local Disk (C)) -> (Select -> RigolDS1.ref) -> (Load) ->(Verify -> Saved -> Ref2)(Press -> Ref -> Ref10) -> (More) -> (Import) -> (Local Disk (C)) -> (Select -> RigolDS2.ref) -> (Load) ->(Verify -> Saved -> Ref10)Dear @BTO, I can't bring the signals saved in (Ref1) and (Ref5) and (Ref10) to the screen. I can only run the most recent IMG brought from Drive (C), and if I press (CLEAR) the IMGs become inaccessible.Check how to resolve this.Any colleague can comment on my question.Translation with Google Translate.modify: "item #2.2" from "sinusoidal signal" to "Square Wave".

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 06:22:11 am
content: Quote from: BRZ.tech on May 01, 2024, 12:31:31 amHi mate,RE Problem 1 - I'm looking into it.Re Problem 2 and 3 - IS NOT A PROBLEM, ALTHOUGH I CAN SEE HOW IT WOULD BE CONFUSING.1. I'm going to make a video on this as i can see a lot of people asking this questionFor now , i'll give you a text response as well.As you statedGo to GI - Let's just sayWAVE 1 - SINE - 1Khz - 1VppGo to REF1 / MORE / COLOUR (Assign unique colour)back to MORE / LABEL / DISPLAY = ONback to LABEL / Label = REF 1BACK / BACK to REFSAVE TO REF(THIS SAVES THE FILE TO THE SCREEN)REF /MORE / EXPORTFile Type .refFile Name RigolDS1SAVE(THIS EXPORTS THE FILE TO BE STORED ON THE C: DRIVE) for later useNow repeat this process for 2 other wavesAssign a unique colourAssign a Unique LabelAssign a Unique REF#SAVE ITEXPORT THEM and before Export GIVE THE FILES UNIQUE EXPORT NAMESIf you do that...HERE IS HOW YOU GET THEM ALL ON SCREENYou can clear the screen, it makes no difference1. Select REF2. Select CURRENT (Ref of choice) say Ref 13. MORE / IMPORTTHIS WILL BRING THE FILE BACKNow go to4. Select REF5. Select CURRENT (Ref of choice) say Ref 26. MORE / IMPORTTHIS WILL BRING THE FILE 2 BACK7. Select REF8. Select CURRENT (Ref of choice) say Ref 19. MORE / IMPORTTHIS WILL BRING THE FILE 3 BACKYou will now have them all on screen

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 07:42:13 am
content: Quote from: BRZ.tech on May 01, 2024, 12:31:31 amHi mate, the files are accessible,Follow the instructions in the last post, I've also made a video that i will shortly post after i edit it.In shortSAVE TO REF : Only saves the file to the screenEXPORT : Save the file to the C DriveIMPORT : Brings it back from the C Drive to the ScreenYou can select any one of the 10 Reference Slots and Select any of the sources CH 1 - CH 4 + L.A. and In L.A. you can select any of the channelsfrom D0 - D15 for digital comparisonAnyway, it all works, i think you just didn't use the IMPORT option

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 08:11:00 am
content: Quote from: BRZ.tech on May 01, 2024, 12:31:31 amTHIS IS A VERY VALID POINTk = Kilo = LowerCase "k" (According to S.I. Units) and it follows thatV = Volts = Uppercase "V"s = Seconds = LowerCase "s"m = milli = LowerCase "m"M == Mega = UpperCase "M"and even by comparison the Vpp and Vavg are measuring in uppercase V, YOU ARE CORRECTthere is no setting for this,I have forwarded this onto a senior Engineer at Rigol who is currently taking all this very seriously, and IT WILL BE ADDRESSED, don't worry.I just don't have a date as to when it will be,I know they are going to look at it tomorrow, but this needs to be fixed in a new firmware update and given that now we have 125 issues to fix.i don't know exactly when it'll be, but i'm happy to keep you updated.so that's all the problems sorted.

author: BRZ.tech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 01:39:34 pm
content: Hi,Dear @BTO,Thank you for commenting on my doubts.I put my questions here, because luckily you have good contact with a Rigol Engineer, who can answer the technical FW and UI questions raised by MSO5000 consumers.Yes, I agree with you that:“Re Problem 2 and 3 - IS NOT A PROBLEM, ALTHOUGH I CAN SEE HOW IT WOULD BE CONFUSING.”See that I put the entire procedure here, so you and other colleagues can reproduce the test.I suggest that the Memories (Ref1 -> Ref10) are numbered in the UI as (Ref0 -> Ref9), This will maintain the logic of all files saved in Drive (C).I saw that you were able to place (ALL) the IMGs saved in Drive (C) on the screen at the same time, and also in the (Ref) Table.@BTO, but in practice this is not necessary.For example, see that you can make a sequence of Waveform Measurements of many signals in one (Radio #1). And save in the Table (Ref) and in the Drive (C). To then compare with other Radios identical to (Radio #1), to adjust, for example, IF Coils, RF Filters, etc...See that you have in Drive (C) the IMGs of interest to adjust everything you need, and you can transfer them to the table (Ref), to use (ONE AT A TIME), and not all at the same time. You only need (1 IMG at a time) to make the comparative adjustment.And then you do one (Press -> Default) and delete the entire Table (Ref), and do other things of your interest.On another day, you take a different model (Radio #2) and do the same procedure. And you don't have to worry about numbering, as the MSO5000 does automatic and sequential numbering, starting from (RigolDS0 -> RigolDS1). You just need to have external control of what was saved in each position of the (RigolDS x)... Or change the name of each one, in each operation.But imagine that you have 200 or more IMGs saved in Drive (C) of many Radios and other Equipment, I think it is better to leave the automatic numbering of the MSO5000.And one fine day, you have a model of (Radio #2) to adjust.It's simple, you can load 10 IMG at a time, in Memories (Ref1 -> Ref10) and you are ready to adjust (EACH ONE) of the adjoints, step by step, and the screen has to have (1 IMG at a time), and not the ones (10 IMGs at the same time).See that if you (Press -> CLEAR) you clear the screen of all IMGs, and what I want is to sequentially select the IMGs from (Ref1 -> Ref10), (ONE AT A TIME), and do a comparative test, and adjust your copy of (Radio #x) as it is in the IMG of Ref.But the MSO5000 UI does not allow you to load just one IMG, for example (Ref3) on the screen. Check.Another idea, imagine that you are in a small artisanal factory, where you have (10 Adjustment Stations), with different people or operators. And each (Adjustment Station) has an MSO5000 loaded with a single Reference IMG (Refx), each operator makes an adjustment, and see that productivity will increase a lot, as well as the quality of the adjustments.@BTO, notice on your MSO5000 that the UI does not give you the option to load (1 IMG) saved in the (Ref) Table. You load (10 IMGs), and have (10 IMGs) at the same time, but you can't load just (1 IMG). Some (BUTTON) is missing from the UI. Check out.In the hypothetical (Adjustment Station), it is impractical to have (10 IMGs) on the screen at the same time for the Operator to choose (One), and compare with a signal of interest on a board.To be continued.

author: BRZ.tech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 02:00:52 pm
content: Hi,Dear @BTO,To explain better, and you understand:You stated that:“Anyway, it all works, I think you just didn't use the IMPORT option”Check my msg #62, in (item #4) that I used the (IMPORT) function to bring the IMGs saved in Drive (C) to a position in the Table (Refx).The central issue is that you can IMPORT (10 IMGs) saved in Drive (C), and load them into Memory positions (Ref1 -> Ref10).But you can't use it (ONE AT A TIME). Check out:(Press -> CLEAR) and try running just one IMG saved in the (Ref Table).As for your message #65, you understood my question regarding SlewRate measurement, and forwarded it to the solution. It's great that you were able to open this solution channel with the Rigol Engineer.I have other similar UI questions, in the Bode Plote and FFT functions. I will produce a coherent text, and post it here for you and other colleagues, to see if there is any viable solution.Much obliged.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 02:01:59 pm
content: Quote from: BRZ.tech on May 01, 2024, 01:39:34 pmQuote- No problemQuote- Yes i saw that, Thank youQuote- of course not, i was just finding a solution for youQuote- The other thing you could do that would be better would be to create a .stp (Setup File), You customize your scope, then you createthe setup file and then just reload the setup when you're ready, Or.. You could hit Default then setup.Quote- YOU CAN.. i've got a video coming, don't worryQuote- YES IT DOESQuote- NO.. it does allow me to load only 1 imageQuote- NO, i chose to load that many images, But i can load 1 or 3 or 10 as i choose, Just use the IMPORT selectionQuote- Which Button is Missing ?Quote- I Agree, but in that scenario each operator CAN have ONLY 1 Reference waveform loaded.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 02:54:25 pm
content: Quote from: BRZ.tech on May 01, 2024, 02:00:52 pmQuoteOK, i missed that, i stand corrected..Quotei did, Look at the attachment

author: BRZ.tech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 03:10:36 pm
content: Hi,Dear @BTO,1. TKS, you are making a video clarifying the subject.“Quotewhat I want is to sequentially select the IMGs from (Ref1 -> Ref10), (ONE AT A TIME), and do a comparative test- YOU CAN.. i've got a video coming, don't worry”2. You asked:“QuoteSome (BUTTON) is missing from the UI. Check out.- Which Button is Missing ?”Response:Carry the first IMG:(Clear All Memories) -> (Press -> Default) ->(Press -> Ref) -> (More) -> (Detalis) -> (Verify -> all Memories (REF1 -> REF10) are Clean) -> (Close REF Table -> x) -> (Back) ->(Select -> Current -> Ref1) -> (More) ->(Press -> Import) -> (Local Disk (C) -> (Select -> RigolDS0.ref) -> (Load)-> (More) (Details) -> (Verify -> Only (REF1) is with IMG saved) -> (Close REF Table -> x) -> (CLEAR) -> (Menu off).Carry others IMG:(Press -> Ref) -> (More) -> (Select -> Current -> Ref2) -> (More) ->(Press -> Import) -> (Local Disk (C) -> (Select -> RigolDS1.ref) -> (Load)-> (More) (Details) -> (Verify -> (REF1 and REF2) are with IMGs saved) -> (Close REF Table -> x) -> (CLEAR) -> (Menu off).(Press -> Ref) -> (More) -> (Select -> Current -> Ref3) -> (More) ->(Press -> Import) -> (Local Disk (C) -> (Select -> RigolDS2.ref) -> (Load)-> (More) (Details) -> (Verify -> (REF1 and REF2 and REF3) are with IMGs saved) -> (Close REF Table -> x) -> (CLEAR) -> (Menu off).CARRY ONLY ONE Ref Table IMG:(Press -> Ref) -> (More) -> (Details) -> (See the REF1 -> Table) ->(It is MISSING Button) -> (Touch one REFx IMG -> May be: REF1, REF2 or REF3) -> (OK) -> (Carry on the Screen the Signal IMG)@BTO this is as far as I managed to get. I'm waiting for your video on how to load just one IMG from the REF Table on the Screen.Enter the sequence of buttons you have to press to load just ONE IMG from the REF Table.TKS.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 03:23:28 pm
content: Quote from: BRZ.tech on May 01, 2024, 03:10:36 pmRegarding the Video.. it's rendering Now, should be around 30mins or soRegarding the Missing buttons, OK, i'll pass that on to the Senior Engineer

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 04:06:21 pm
content: Quote from: BRZ.tech on May 01, 2024, 02:00:52 pmHERE IS THE VIDEOhttps://mega.nz/folder/OsJyFY5A#8uS0fmepgBdNrXqvnxmFfg

author: BRZ.tech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 06:38:33 pm
content: Dear @BTO,I'm grateful for the video. I watched it in its entirety.I realized that you understood my difficulty, of selecting from (Ref Table) just (ONE IMG), and loading it on the Screen.And also sent the suggestion to the Rigol Engineer.One thing we didn't tell the rest of the listis that you can change the signal period, and the Amplitude, and place the Original Signal in any position on the screen.For example, the two squares at the bottom of the Screen. And when you save it in the (Ref Table) and in the Drive (C), the Vertical Position of the signal on the screen is also recorded, and you cannot change it, when you load the signal from the Drive (C), to the (Ref Table).When you load the Signal on the Screen, from (Table Ref), you can change the Period (time) of the signal, but the Amplitude (Volt) remains fixed.And when you, for example, input an external signal for analysis, on the CH-1, you can decrease the Amplitude (Vertical) and Adjust V-Position, and adjust the Period (Horizontal), so that it matches the Signal Period, and you make the necessary adjustments so that the Signal of interest has exactly the same Shape, Amplitude and Period as the Signal (Ref Table) loaded on the Screen.TKS. 73.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 02, 2024, 04:08:07 am
content: Quote from: BRZ.tech on May 01, 2024, 06:38:33 pmI AGREE, i saw that as well , 2 things i picked up on- You can't adjust vertical position of the reference signal- When you enable cursors you can't set REF1 or whatever reference as the sourceNow.. here are a few work aroundsRe the Vertical Position.If you're going to have a REF 1 let's say and then have CH 1 as the source signal you are overlaying it with.You can just adjust the CH 1 to be in the position of the REF 1 signalRe Cursors, Same thing, You can set the cursors to have a SOURCE of CH 1, which TECHNICALLY means the cursors are MEASURING CH 1and not the REF 1, HOWEVER... You can still derive the readings you need by doing it this way.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 05, 2024, 07:55:58 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on March 28, 2024, 10:41:04 pmHI mate,Not sure if you know yet, but now YOU CAN UPGRADE THE SCOPE AND HAVE ALL THE OPTIONS AND IT'S PERMANENT.Go to the links in the first post to the Cloud and you'll find the files there and the PDF that explains it all, it's not hardand many people have done it, You just need to know which model you have and that will determined which script you use to upgrade.if you have 70MHz Model you userigol_kg2.pyif you have 100MHz Model you userigol_kg2_3_000.pywe've worked out a lot of the problems and it seems like it full steam ahead now

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 05, 2024, 08:00:33 pm
content: Quote from: KeBeNe on March 29, 2024, 05:10:15 amUDPATE : NO NOT ANYMOREWe now have a PERMANENT SOLUTION, we are not using the Dr Mefist0 Patch method, but insteadthe DrMefist0 FULLY LICENSED Method, It totally worksInitially we had some problems with the 1 script where some people who had Models that WERE NOTMSO5072MSO5074were having issues and the script wasn't completing.WE'VE FIXED THAT. there are now 2 scripts 1 for the 70MHz and 1 for the 100MHz Models Including MSO5000BND Bundle options.after you do this, You won't have to patch again... EVER !!!Just upgrade as new official firmware files become available, Nothing to worry about.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 05, 2024, 08:02:33 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on March 29, 2024, 07:50:33 amHi Mate, Just touching baseHave you upgraded to the FULLY LICENSED METHOD YET ?if you're still on the patch method. Revist the URL in post 1 for the Cloud, there is a PDF that explains everything.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 05, 2024, 08:06:09 pm
content: Quote from: TIP142 on April 05, 2024, 09:29:56 amHi mate Just touching base with you,WE HAVE A NEW PERMANENT LICENSING METHOD FOR THE MSO5000'sHave you done this yet, or are you still on the patch ?if you're still on patch, go to the link in Post 1 download the PDF and follow the instructions, it's easy, Lots of people have done itand it's proven to be working

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2024, 07:45:27 pm
content: Quote from: TIP142 on April 05, 2024, 09:29:56 amHi mateJust in case you were still wondering, We've had a few advancements1. THE UPGRADE for the MSO5000 Now works beautifully2. Not only MSO5000 but MSO5100 and MSO52003. Many people have upgraded with success4. There was only a small number of people that got an Assertion Error.BUT I RECENTLY FIXED THAT AS WELL.NEW UPDATE : MSO8000 Is now also do-able and very possibly MSO7000.Also, 2 new scripts have been created for MSO5000 to cater for various scenario'sit's full steam ahead now.Go to this link (on the unlock method by DrMefisto)https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-dr-mefisto-licensing-methodGo to page 1Go the MEGA Download linkDOWNLOAD THE PDF and read it and go from thereit will tell you what you need to downloadand everything you need will be at the same link that is on that page.Also,Since this thread is just about the videos. Let's not do a discussion about unlocking here.Instead go to the other link and discuss it over there.I just wanted to put it here for the sake of awareness.

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 30, 2024, 01:41:30 pm
content: JUST CHECKING IN WITH EVERYONEHow are the video's going ? Does anyone have any questions, How's everyone going with their newly licensed Scopes ?

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 12, 2024, 01:42:01 pm
content: IF ANYONE IS STILL GETTING ASSERTION ERRORASSERTION ERROR IS SOLVEDWE HAVE A NEW SCRIPTEDIT : This Post has been edited to include the latest script- it's Faster- Easier to use- No need for you to know when to restart1. The script has been Re-Written2. There is a new ScriptSame locationhttps://mega.nz/folder/A8cEgQRI#5FSoMrCurJi71T7VkRPgYQit's calledCode:Rigol_MSO_LicensingUtility_2.10b.pyGrab itNOTE : It's Based on the 2.10b script by asp, I've made a few changes so it's easier to read and understand what's happening at each stage.But all in all asp did the heavy lifting.NOW READ THIS CAREFULLY(SOME COMMANDS HAVE BEEN CHANGED)1. it doesn't really matter what version your scope is on2. Delete and discard of all other scripts that you have and use this one moving forward(it will work for ANY MSO5000, MSO7000 and MSO8000)3. Ensure your working directory has the script copied into itand delete all Priv.pem files from it4. Assume your I.P. Address is 10.1.1.666RUN -h HELP and CREDITS and to familiarize yourself with the commands you will be using.Code:Rigol_MSO_LicensingUtility_2.10b.py -h 10.1.1.6665. Assume your I.P. Address is 10.1.1.666RUN -i INFORMATIONCode:Rigol_MSO_LicensingUtility_2.10b.py -i 10.1.1.6666. RUN -r REGENERATE PRIV.PEMCode:Rigol_MSO_LicensingUtility_2.10b.py -r 10.1.1.666NOTE : RESTART WILL HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLYNOTE : ACTIVATION AND LICENSING WILL HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLYNOTE : RESTART WILL HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLYNOTE : YOU WILL BE ADVISED WHEN YOUR SCOPE IS RESTARTED AND READY AGAINNEW FEATURE ADDED ... REBOOT (From Command Line) - No Need to press the buttonCode:Rigol_MSO_LicensingUtility_2.10b.py --reboot 10.1.1.666ALSO, The Script runs much faster now, Approx 1min for activation (not 15mins)Now your scope will be activated and No Assertion ErrorsAfter this- Upgrade your scope to the latest version 1.3.3.0 if not already on it- Do a Self Test- Do a Self CalENJOY

author: nau
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 31, 2024, 04:40:02 pm
content: Hi. This is my MSO 5072. (firmware 00.01.03.00.01) Can I use the instructions from the first page of this thread? Will the DS5000Update.GEL file work?Please, can you help me? Write a manual with backup and update options...

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2024, 02:19:26 am
content: Quote from: nau on July 31, 2024, 04:40:02 pmQuoteOK, so it's a little old.... NO PROBLEMQuoteYES YOU CANThis specific thread was created (Not for Licensing and Hacking) but for scope understanding and it's features.But i have however done you guys the courtesy of including and updating the hacking progressHere is what you need to doOn the first page of this thread there is a link.HERE IT IShttps://mega.nz/folder/OsJyFY5A#8uS0fmepgBdNrXqvnxmFfgThis is the link to the videos and everything elseTO UPGRADE, YOU ONLY NEED THESE 3 FILESMSO5000 DrMefistoLicensing Method.pdf THE INSTRUCTIONSMSO_Rigol_LicensingUtility_2.10b.py THE PYTHON SCRIPTUPGRADING TO 350MHZ (1.3.3.0) THE GEL FILENow, Just briefly the 1.3.2.2 file is still there JUST IN CASE anyone needs it, But you don't really need it anymoreYOU WANT TO DO THIS- You are on 1.3.0.1 YOU WANT TO IMMEDIATELY (Before any hacking) Upgrade legitamtely to 1.3.3.0so Use the GEL file, put it on USB, go into your scope, Select LOCAL UPGRADE and let it run and restart- After that, it'd be a good idea if you did a SELF CAL- Then Crack out the instructions and read them, Do your backups as instructed- And finally you're gonna install python as instructed and then you're gonna License your scope and see FOREVER,it'll be easy , don't worryif you have any problem, don't hesitate to reach out and if it's still hard, and we need to do a 1 on 1 session, that's no problem.The script has come a long way since it started, it's now really easy to do and you don't need to really worry about restarts or hangingor starting on a certain version or if you are on a version that is too low or whatever.the only thing is, that VNC Viewer isn't supported until version 1.3.2.2 so you should upgrade to 1.3.3.0 to get all the supported versions.You see, when the script looks at your scope (at the time is tries to license it) it gives you ALL AVAILABLE options,Now if your version is lower there are some stuff that won't be available because of that. so STEP 1 - Upgrade to the latest versionDo that, Tell me how you go with itNow, i didn't really want to make this post about Activating, but i'll make an exception this one time so that others can briefly read it.but all future stuff like this, I'm going to redirect to herehttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/solutions-and-troubleshooting-hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopes/Which is also why i haven't given you detailed information here and i just put it in bullet point form.but feel free to PM me if you like or email me

author: nau
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 01, 2024, 03:30:30 pm
content: I did everything according to the instructions in the files. Folder - UPGRADING TO 350MHz (1.3.3.0)The step-by-step instructions are very detailed.The update was successful! Thank you very much!I'll drink to your health!!!

author: BTO
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2024, 01:06:36 am
content: Quote from: nau on August 01, 2024, 03:30:30 pmWELL DONE, Congratulations, Glad to hear itNowDo Self CALDo Self Testthen watch the videos and have fun with thatEnjoy your scope

author: nau
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 03, 2024, 01:41:26 pm
content: Yes, of course.I will follow your advice.

author: BRZ.tech
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2024, 12:20:35 pm
content: Hi to @BTO and other guys.@BTO, do you have any news from RIGOL regarding the FW changes you sent?Did they send you any Beta version of the new FW?Tell us about your experience with the new FW?thanks. 73.

author: Odd-Job
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 07, 2024, 09:53:17 am
content: BUMP'For all of the EEV forum who now have HotRodded MSO, do your self a favour and go this YOUTUBE site and watch this video.Do each video as an exercise and you will get so much more satisfaction out of your new tool and learn so much in a short time..The author Tom has not posted for aver 2 years and I fear he may not be well, or even still physically here, so make his legacy live on and his work not lost to a lack of storage.Quote from: ToThePub on March 31, 2024, 05:41:55 am