Rigol North America Black Friday sale on DHO1000 series - Page 1
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author: geostep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 08:31:31 pm
content: Hi All,Rigol NA is having a Black Friday sale on their DSO1000 series digital scopes.Everything is 40% OFF except the DHO1072 which is only 25% off.Link here:https://www.rigolna.com/dho1000-black-friday/Black Friday sale prices are good from November 20th until December 4th.Given how hackable they are this is an excellent deal, IMHO.Enjoy.- George

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 09:50:31 pm
content: We already had this in a thread.Rigol.eu does it differently, yesterday you could buy the 1074 for 700€, now:https://www.amazon.de/HDO1072-Digitaloszilloskop-EXT-Kanal-1-500-000-Touch-Display/dp/B0BJ31PHLN?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 10:01:20 pm
content: Correction:This is something different, black friday promo will start on 24.11 here(ending 30.11).

author: geostep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 10:08:56 pm
content: Correct, this promotion is for the North American market.- George

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 10:12:18 pm
content: I´ve meant the amazon link.For a few days including yesterday it was 40% off, so I thought it was already the promo.But it´s for selling the "old" HDO.

author: Hydron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 10:16:36 pm
content: 620 GBP for a DHO1074 on amazon UK. Not in the market for a scope and haven't tracked Rigol prices since I sold my 1054Z to upgrade to a RTB2004, but this sounds v. cheap.

author: NE666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 10:42:06 pm
content: Has anyone actually pushed the button and purchased one yet?I'm curious as to what is actually being delivered under this promotion; HDO badged stock (as per Martin72's conjecture, and consistent with the images in the UK Amazon listing) or DHO (as per the Amazon UK item description).

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 10:51:54 pm
content: I´m pretty sure that you´ll get a HDO when pulling the trigger on amazon.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2023, 11:37:07 pm
content: They're much cheaper in Spain than in Germany - 712 Euros instead of 832.(Yes, that's with 21% tax, if you're VAT registered you could get one for 588 Euros)I don't think they'll sell many HDO1072s...

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 12:22:30 am
content: As you can see from your picture, these are almost all the "old" HDO models.From next Friday you will have the DHO for 40% less.And if I needed a scope, I would sell the DHO804 and get rid of it easily, add some money and buy the 1074 for around 700€.Hacking bandwidth to 200Mhz and memory to 100Mpts is also child's play with it and then only spend 700 on it...

author: geostep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 12:46:28 am
content: I did order one from the RigolNA.com website. Everything there is DHO.I'm in the USA, so I focused on what the rigolna.com website had to offer. I did look around and found that tequipment.net has the DHO1000 series on a Black Friday sale as well.Link:https://www.tequipment.net/rigol-promotions-and-offers/Look at the bottom of the page.- George

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 06:53:41 am
content: Quote from: geostep on November 21, 2023, 12:46:28 amOK, that's even cheaper... $599 for a HDO1074? Grab them while you can!

author: colorado.rob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 09:36:16 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on November 21, 2023, 06:53:41 amCheaper that that from Saelig if you apply their EEVBLOG promotional discount.https://www.saelig.com/category/dho1000-series.htm

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 09:56:55 pm
content: Have you tried it (experimentally)?With such a discount, I can hardly imagine that you can still use the other one.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 10:03:58 pm
content: Canadian price is even better, 791 or $577 USD. Though our taxes are higher.Quote from: Martin72 on November 21, 2023, 12:22:30 amWhy would DHO vs HDO matter, its just a sticker no? But yeah, told people to not buy a DHO900..

author: Wil_Bloodworth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 10:12:56 pm
content: There don't seem to be many YT reviews on the DHO series other than the (obvious) 800. I'm assuming the DHO1204 is a good machine for $1020 USD?- Wil

author: colorado.rob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 10:27:15 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on November 21, 2023, 09:56:55 pmYes, I have.

author: colorado.rob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 10:28:20 pm
content: Quote from: Wil_Bloodworth on November 21, 2023, 10:12:56 pmThe DHO1074 for $599 hacked to a DHO1204 is an even better deal.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 10:36:12 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on November 21, 2023, 10:03:58 pmExactly, only a sticker, nothing else so no worries to grab one.And yes, the current offer makes the dho900 look a bit silly.

author: colorado.rob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 11:18:03 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on November 21, 2023, 10:36:12 pmThe DHO900S can do Bode plots. That is something the DHO1000 cannot do.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 11:28:10 pm
content: That would really only be a point if someone needs Bodeplot.Otherwise, everything speaks in favor of a DHO1000.More memory, more sample rate, hi-res mode, larger screen, higher screen resolution...

author: Veteran68
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 11:32:15 pm
content: Really temping with the added Saelig discount code. $563 before sales tax, including shipping, for the DHO1074.Other than the 10.1" screen (which is a big deal by itself) can someone remind me what are the main improvements over the DHO800/900 series? Is it mainly just the 100Mpts upgrade capability?I was watching the DHO800/900 release with some interest, but was really holding out for Siglent's entry into that space. With this deal though, I'm awfully tempted.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 11:38:23 pm
content: Quote from: colorado.rob on November 21, 2023, 11:18:03 pmYes, Rigol needs to get off their asses and copy siglents implementation:https://siglentna.com/application-note/bode-plot-filter-oscilloscope-generator/But worst case you can write a short script to do this, with the sig gen of your choice.They might be clearing out the DHO1000 for a new model, with built in AWG, but its never going to be that great compared to a standalone product.Quote from: Veteran68 on November 21, 2023, 11:32:15 pmSee what martin said above, 2GS/s vs 1.25.

author: Veteran68
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 11:44:12 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on November 21, 2023, 11:38:23 pmYeah if you mean the post above mine, he posted while I was writing mine, so didn't see it until after.Also just saw2N3055's post over in this threadthat points out:Quote from: 2N3055 on November 20, 2023, 08:47:24 pmI'm about a mm away from pulling this trigger...Rob, you need to get over here and convince me that us NA customers are going to see a similar BF deal from Siglent, stat!

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2023, 11:48:55 pm
content: Quote from: Veteran68 on November 21, 2023, 11:32:15 pmThe new Siglent will probably be better than the Rigols, but it's not there yet.I have the DHO804 here, next to my SDS2504X HD.I like it.But the DHO/HDO 1000 is simply a class above and if you can currently get it for under 600...go for it.And when the new siglent comes out at some point, you will certainly be able to get rid of the DHO1074 you have purchased now without much loss.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 12:29:24 am
content: Quote from: Veteran68 on November 21, 2023, 11:44:12 pmhttps://siglentna.com/products/clearance/I have no idea what NA are doing for BF deals but I suggest you also have a hunt in their Amazon store.

author: Wil_Bloodworth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 12:48:29 am
content: Quote from: colorado.rob on November 21, 2023, 10:28:20 pmMaybe. But I don't know how to hack it and I would just end up ruining it and ending up with a dead piece of electronics.- Wil

author: Veteran68
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 12:54:33 am
content: Trigger pulled!Quote from: tautech on November 22, 2023, 12:29:24 amNothing to compare, yet. As Martin said, if/when the new Siglent comes out that competes on features and price point, I can always sell this one and buy it. Probably won't lose much if anything on the sale either, as this deal is $435 off MSRP. I'll just need to sell it when there's not a similar sale going on.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 12:59:02 am
content: Insane price, you can´t get wrong with this.

author: NE666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 10:11:36 am
content: +1, just purchased mine from Amazon UK as I've been dithering on it this past week and they are now down to just 1 item left in stock.620GBP with sales tax, so ~646USD or 593EUR without. Not as good as Veteran68 (kudos, great deal, see you in the hacking thread at the weekend) but not awful and likely better than purchasing direct from Rigol EU tomorrow as I'd get hit with additional shipping charges and possibly customs duty collection fees too being outside the EU.Didn't need it but could no longer resist at this pricing. My original intention was to go with the MSO5k and supplement with a DHO800 when they became available. Will probably have a good play with it over the Christmas holiday season, which will decide whether it has a place on my bench full time or gets put on that well known auction site. I'm very happy with the 5k, BTW.I messaged Rigol on Amazon prior to purchase and: "Hello, our stock in the UK are all the latest machines, you will receive the machine with DHO logo, HDO is the old logo for this series. Thanks"The Amazon deal includes an official memory upgrade license, so just the bandwidth to "enhance".

author: geostep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 04:49:27 pm
content: I bought the DHO1074. I had been eyeing the 800 series. But the main attractions to me of the 1000 series are the easy "upgradeability" to a 1204 and the larger 10.1" screen. Being a hobbyist, bode plot was not a consideration. And, well, 40% off is a healthy amount of savings.Also as others have said:DHO800 - Max BW 100 MHz; 1.25Gsps 25Mpts; 7" 1024×600DHO1000 - Max BW 200 MHz; 2Gsps 50/100Mpts; 10.1" 1280×800- George

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 05:21:01 pm
content: Quote from: geostep on November 22, 2023, 04:49:27 pmPlus higher waveform update rates, 10 MHz reference input/output, optical encoders on the front panel, defined jitter spec, CAN & LIN decoders...And probably internal 50 Ohm input paths, inherited from the DHO4000 platform, which may however never be unlockable.

author: NE666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 07:48:38 pm
content: The only mild concern that I had w.r.t investing in the 1000 vs 800 is that I'm forming the opinion that this Black Friday offer is something of a fire sale for the 1000 series.I'm beginning to suspect that Rigol will discontinue the original DHO1000 series, given that:Their product management seem to be struggling to properly define and differentiate the value proposition and use-case for all of the current product line membersSales of the 1000 probably haven't been stellar historically and likely took a real beating with the release of the 800 and 900The 1000U has just been announced in China, with slimmed down specs, hardware and priceAmazon UK now list the 1074 as "Currently Unavailable", as opposed to temporarily out of stock. Which could be interpreted in a number of ways. One might be that Rigol aren't allowing them to accept back orders of discounted stock but another could be that there isn't expected to be anymore stock post the Black Friday sale.Rigol aren't just "dumping" old HDO-badged stock. This sale, at least in the UK (and by appearances, the US too) is for current DHO stockIf I'm right, I'm still not hugely concerned hence purchasing a DHO1074 anyway. There's enough commonality in the software to have good reason to believe that enhancements and fixes will continue to come for some time yet, off the back of continued development of the 800/900/1000U/4000.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 10:25:10 pm
content: For the money you've spent on it now, the 1000 is a very good decision, regardless of its future.

author: Veteran68
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 10:42:24 pm
content: I'm guessing Saelig had a run on them. Wonder how many were eevBlog members, LOL. Good thing I'm in no hurry, I guess.Quote

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 22, 2023, 11:19:28 pm
content: Aha..

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 23, 2023, 04:52:27 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on November 22, 2023, 05:21:01 pmHey, I just discovered another DHO1000 advantage over the 800: The Horizontal controls include a dedicated Zoom button -- so pushing the timebase selector can remain dedicated to the vernier function, as it should be in a sane oscilloscope.Yeah, it's a small thing, but I like it...

author: vindoline
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2023, 01:43:25 am
content: Just pulled the trigger on a ‘Black Friday special’ DHO1074! Very exciting for me. This will be replacing my DS1052E that I got in 2010 based on Dave's review in his first video. Should be quite an upgrade.

author: Wil_Bloodworth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2023, 02:16:40 am
content: Quote from: vindoline on November 25, 2023, 01:43:25 amCongrats!

author: NE666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2023, 09:28:44 am
content: Quote from: vindoline on November 25, 2023, 01:43:25 amOh, it is that. You're going to love it.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2023, 09:52:12 am
content: Quote from: vindoline on November 25, 2023, 01:43:25 amThat's a big step.

author: pokornyib
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 25, 2023, 06:31:35 pm
content: Is the hacking really that simple to do? Do you have more info about that? Don't you lose warranty?

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2023, 08:44:27 pm
content: Hi,QuoteYes.QuoteJust read the hacking thread, use the search function to find it.QuoteProbably not if you deinstall the options before giving the unit away for servicing.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2023, 11:46:08 pm
content: Quote from: pokornyib on November 25, 2023, 06:31:35 pmYes.Quote from: pokornyib on November 25, 2023, 06:31:35 pmAll you're doing is generating a license code and entering it, exactly as if you bought the code from Rigol.Licenses can also be removed without trace.

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2023, 12:30:57 am
content: That´s what I´ve already wrote here.Exception:QuoteWe don´t really know that.They will certainly be able to record system accesses.

author: scopeman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2023, 03:52:24 am
content: Just bought a DSO1204 off of the Rigol Amazon store. Wanted 4 350MHz probes. I used up a $350.00 gift card and some extra cash so out of my pocket it was a little over $700.00 so quite a deal I believe.It looks like the Rigol MSO models are on sale there too, but I was looking for a 12bit scope for low level work as I have a HP 54642A MSO for digilog debug use.Too bad they didn't make a MSO option for the DSO1204. Not a biggie at the moment. I'll use this one for a few years until the next black friday sale comes along.Now I have a Rigol DS1054 in new condition, still in the box that I hacked to 100MHz that I have to decide what to do with. I bought it as a fall back scope, Maybe that will become my summer place scope.Samscopeman

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2023, 06:52:50 am
content: Quote from: Martin72 on November 26, 2023, 12:30:57 amYou really think the repair techs are going to do forensic analysis of the SD cards?

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2023, 08:27:24 am
content: Quote from: scopeman on November 26, 2023, 03:52:24 amPaying more than $400 extra vs. the DHO1074 just to get the four 350 MHz probes is not a good deal, since the PVP2350 probes can be bought for less than $50 each from Rigol NA. But you also have a "fully legal" 200 MHz scope now, which might give you some peace of mind.

author: razz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 11, 2023, 02:48:03 am
content: I just received my DHO 1204. For $1019 free shipping. So far it seems nice. I am a hobbyist.

author: TXJD
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 11, 2023, 02:55:51 am
content: Come Rigol, we need now a Boxing Day deal for those of us that missed the BF sale

author: the Chris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2023, 12:25:09 pm
content: Thanks for the heads-up on this offer. Just ordered a DHO1074 at the EU Rigol shop where they were listed as still available.I could not afford the Keysight DSOX1204 and went with the EDUX1052A instead, which I really like for dual channel work. But I lusted for a 4-ch option with a high-res screen to accomodate for the additinal waveform space requirements ever since and that'll do it for the time being until I will be able and willing to buy an appropriate device from Keysight.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2023, 12:30:43 pm
content: I predict you won't be buying a Keysight.

author: the Chris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2023, 01:15:58 pm
content: Sure, it would be great if the device leaves nothing to desire. I am really looking forward to testdrive it open-minded and hope for an arrival prior to the time between christmas and new year's eve where I can start to dig in.

author: geostep
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2023, 07:22:06 pm
content: I received the DHO1074 I ordered several days ago now. Got it upgraded no problems. It's great having that 10 inch screen, especially with all the information you can have it show at the same time. It's a beast!- George

author: J-R
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2023, 09:11:57 pm
content: Even if you're a fan of Keysight, those scopes are getting old at this point, so for a hobbyist it just makes zero sense to buy one new. Just get a used one and liberate it.

author: t3chiman
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2023, 03:35:39 pm
content: Ordered a DHO1074 from Rigol NA as time expired on Black Friday pricing. What a nifty scope! Off the bat, the web interface was unusable; most of the data fields were empty, and the network entries were unstable. I updated the firmware to 0.02.11, and the web interface calmed down, very helpful in fact. I found the official firmware instructions confusing. Ended up using the Start menu, and the Storage->Disk submenus to select the .GEL file. TheUPGRADEbutton worked fine. I repeated the firmware upgrade process to go to 0.02.12 with no problem.The option upgrade process was painless.Thanks to the eevblog crowd for expert and timely comments.

author: blackfin76
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 16, 2024, 06:30:11 am
content: So... what has Rigol got to offer us this year for th Black Friday?I never owned a Rigol oscilloscope before, so....

author: Kurt_!
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2024, 09:45:42 am
content: I have two devices.An Oszi DHO1104 and a Generator DG822pro.Poor firmware update service......and no software improvements.For the DG... I've been waiting for an update for almost a year.Never again Rigol!Better to spend a little more money and have more fun.For example: Batronix Magnova....

author: NE666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2024, 04:07:33 pm
content: Quote from: Kurt_! on November 17, 2024, 09:45:42 amWhilst I share your view on Rigol's quality practices and customer service, I don't think we can fairly say that the Magnova is 'a little more money'. However good it might prove to be, that series is vastly more expensive than the Rigol models mentioned previously in this thread.

author: DaneLaw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2024, 04:14:28 pm
content: Quote from: Kurt_! on November 17, 2024, 09:45:42 amarhh..doesn't that simply meen that Rigol knocked it out of the park from the get-go.Yea, it's quite staggering.. not even one update, since I purchased my Rigol DG821PRO at Singles day last year (delivered mid december2023)the one it arrived with, still lists as the latest, here a year later.Rigol in a nutshell.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2024, 08:47:36 pm
content: Quote from: DaneLaw on November 17, 2024, 04:14:28 pmTo be fair, they made it quite clear via the front panel and UI design that they were not serious about this series.Never trust a design team which uses fake electroluminescent (?) digits, does not know how to draw a sine wave, and arranges the number pad in a circle...

author: DaneLaw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2024, 10:54:44 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on November 17, 2024, 08:47:36 pmSeems they finally got the memo and changed the circular number pad on the DG5000 PRO series, though the UI seems to be identical to DG800/900PRO.https://www.rigol.com/products/DG_detail/DG5000_ProDG5000PRO seems to be a Sig'gen series that price-wise will be around 4000 to 7000€ here in the west.To be fair. the circular number pad doesn't bother me, as I don't use it, and likely wouldn't even if it was rectangular, - its so much more convenient to use the number pad on the screen.The relatively big 7" screen is a huge plus.. do enjoy that, on these modern signal gens that are packed with features and also like the mobility from running it on power banks, but one gotta wonder where Rigol's heads were when they decided to put these hysteric noisy fans in their latest signal gen & scope-lines, not least when it was an area Rigol prioritized on last gen signal gens without the "PRO" where Rigol glorified how they managed to make them passive, and what a joy that would be.

author: Kurt_!
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2024, 10:14:13 pm
content: I don't think we can fairly say that the Magnova is 'a little more money'. However good it might prove to be, that series is vastly more expensive than the Rigol models mentioned previously in this thread....but you can compare it with the DHO4000. It doesn't look any better there either.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2024, 11:06:19 pm
content: Quote from: Kurt_! on November 18, 2024, 10:14:13 pmYou can, but no one here really recommends high end rigol gear. The value is in the low end parts (<$1000), which re-use the tech from the DHO4000.$2700 gets you the Magnova BMO100, that is way more than I'd ever spend on a scope, and its only 100MHz. Unless someone figures out how to hack it, then maybe the value proposition goes up a bit.

author: NE666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2024, 09:59:24 am
content: Quote from: thm_w on November 18, 2024, 11:06:19 pmOnly until December, if the 'Introductory offer' pricing is to be believed. Then it jumps up by a further ~500USD, as far as I can make out from Batronix' listing.