How can I delete my account here? - Page 1
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author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 05:30:17 pm
content: Hi,Does anyone know how I can delete my account here, posts and all? I want to "bugger off" from here too. Already "buggered off" from EEVBlog subs on YouTube and Twitter too.Any mods that want to ban me for good are appreciated. That is one way to do it.Kind regards, Samuel LourençoP.S.: Post and all would be to childish. But delete my account please. I won't contribute to EEVBlog, in any shape or form, in order to fulfill Dave's request, attached to this message.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 06:58:28 pm
content: That's childish. Why doesn't he just not post on the site? The internet doesn't make you visit web pages. Also if he was trying to make dave look bad it back fired.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 07:07:27 pm
content: Looking back through your post history, it would be a shame to see someone who consistently contributes intelligent and polite posts leave.Personally I come here to contribute to the eevblog forum community and very rarely look at any of the blogs. Maybe you should just stop viewing and commenting on them and stick to the forum.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 07:28:32 pm
content: Dave may have opinions that's what makes him fun to watch but you have to admit the content is above all others. Getting along is more fun.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 07:46:59 pm
content: Quote from: Beamin on August 19, 2018, 06:58:28 pmthen no one would notice ...

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 08:01:35 pm
content: Quote from: langwadt on August 19, 2018, 07:46:59 pmOf course, he has to spread the fact that someone called him mean things over the internet in response to a comment (of which we cannot see, encouragingly enough) and told him to bugger off on his own accord, so we can all feel bad for him.If Dave wanted you gone, you wouldn't be here whining about it, and I've never known him to ban someone from here for any reason besides being an actual disturbance to the forums, not just for saying a few mean things to him.

author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 08:28:52 pm
content: Hi,Well, lets say if I wanted to do bad publicity, I would post the whole comments here. in fact, Dave made all the bad publicity for himself, IMHO. I only tried to be reasonable, although I admit that I just got fed up by all that sensationalism. I mean, I think it is not hard to get an LM2776 and make the actual measurements. It is not a bad chip, and won't ruin your day by any means.In fact, I used it on the very worst conditions, got it to produce an enormous ripple of 200mVpp and used it to supply an LDO that was set to -4.5V (yup, less than 500mV of margin!). Didn't ruined my day, although admittedly that was far from ideal and my design was constrained by the limitations of USB so I had to do this. The proper LDO and a filters saved my day.The bottom of my point is that many engineers and hobbyists know that any charge pump will produce noise. In fact, you would get the same result if you took a capacitor and inverted it frequently on top of your supply. To the people who don't know, there is no need to bash the damn chip when there are other chips that are much worse. Yes, ripple varies with temperature and load, but that is not a big deal if you over engineer your design in order to accommodate mishaps. A sound design always has enough margin, plus some more, for what can go wrong.Anyways, back to the main topic. I already published my comments on this subject on my Twitter, even to the point of showing the whole thread. Dave did a poor job for himself, IMHO, and did all by himself. I don't need to help him to fulfill the job of the victim. Anyway, there are lots of people already defending him, even if he likes to bash Owon scopes and what not, for any unreasonable and totally biased motive (for the lack of better words, because if it doesn't cost at least $300, it must be crap, right? ). If I had a channel, I would treat my subscribers with dignity. If you wish to see the whole thread, it is on YouTube. It is self-explanatory, sufficiently bad for Dave, and I have nothing to add.I wanted to go silently, but I don't see any option for deleting my account. I did unsubbed on YouTube and Twitter without emmiting any sort of explanation, though. Anyways, there are many other forums I can join and I'm just a user who has 70 posts. Not a big loss. Not playing the victim part here, and my attachment was just in provocation to the mods. I don't care if I get banned, although I wish to stay respectful and truthful.Well, there is a simple way to end this. Change my PW to unknown. A form of encryption, if you wish. Then I won't have the temptation to post further.Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 08:38:48 pm
content: Here is the post Dave replied to. It was edited, so dunno if it is completely what Dave replied to. In my opinion that post is really stupid and does not resemble what video was about. I did not notice any rant in the video, or saying that particular chip is bad. You don't need to choose some relatively bad chip to show traps for young players. IMO Dave's reply was quite justified. If you get own medicine back, then have the guts to not be offended.Quote

author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 08:47:49 pm
content: Hi wraper,Yes, that was the post that Dave replied. Made no edits since. Sometimes I misspell things and I have to edit and edit. But I don't take my word back. Dave did exaggerated, and although is doesn't seem much to you, that was the drop that made me fill the cup. Really, he is borderline tiring when he does this over and over, video after video. And I'm not the only one.Anyways, won't reply further. I feel that my attitude is justified, and I have to bugger off.Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 08:50:00 pm
content: If there is a comment made with, "As for your so called" anything, I immediately lose faith in the author.Your comment was written with an unnecessary level of vitriol. I am not surprised Dave snapped back at you, regardless of if your arguments were valid or not.If you want your comments and criticisms to be taken seriously in any respect, you don't write that you're upset over their biased rant. It shows you to be an immature twat who doesn't actually give a shit about the content of the video, and is only there to rail on the content.They say the moment you turn the debate into an argument you loose, and you sir, have fallen flat on your ass fresh out of the gate.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 08:56:14 pm
content: He did not exaggerate anything. And the only person ranting was you. All that video was about is to look into datasheets in detail as there might be some non obvious things/issues. That chip was just an example and not the point of the video. Heck, even switched capacitor ICs as such wasn't the point of the video. You completely missed the point of the video and made unjustified and rude comment.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 09:01:44 pm
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on August 19, 2018, 08:47:49 pmThat's sad.You could withsomeeffort prove him wrong.....we all are at times, even Dave.BTW, you can't 'close' your A/c, you can only delete each of your posts but not threads, only the content.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 09:03:48 pm
content: QuoteFor example this completely misses the point. How good or bad is the chip compared to others is completely irrelevant. The point is that if you look into things superficially, you may get unexpected results in certain circumstances. Be it even the best chip in the whole universe.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 09:17:26 pm
content: QuoteAnd this is so irrelevant to the content of the video that looks like you did not even watch the whole of it. 7660 was actually mentioned in the video and does not have behavior discussed in the video - rapidly changing parameters due to certain feature in the chip. Again video was not about how good or bad chip is but to watch out for gotchas.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 09:41:08 pm
content: No one's making you watch the bloody videos.To be brutally honest, although I like a lot of Dave's videos, he isn't my favourite YouTube blogger. I think some of his videos are crap, but I don't go on ranting about how bad they are. I prefer not to comment, unless it's something constructive which could help, but it's mostly just my opinion. I like the forum and find more useful information here, than on any video blog, so I hang around here more and seldom watch any of Dave's videos these days.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 10:52:41 pm
content: "How can I delete my account here?"A simple procedure:1. Open a text editor.2. Type some random characters, say about 30, on one line. Enough that you can't memorize them.3. Select the string, ctl-c copy to clipboard.4. Delete the string, close the editor.5. Go to your forum profile page, account settings.6. Paste your random string into both fields for new password.7. Enter your existing password in the verify field.8. Click 'Change Profile' button.9. Log out.Congratulations, your account now effectively ceased to exist (for you.)I hope you have found this helpful.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 11:02:56 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on August 19, 2018, 10:52:41 pmYou forgot about email to lock ability to recover password.

author: M4trix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 19, 2018, 11:20:37 pm
content: C'mon guys, stop pouring oil over the fire.@Bloguetrónica,calm down mate. 'Bugger off' is part of the Aussies slang. You should turn your sensitivity trimmer to low !

author: lowimpedance
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 12:02:44 am
content: Quote from: Hero999 on August 19, 2018, 09:41:08 pmI agree, and this is the point that the forum is its own entity. The video blog is not a prerequisite to participating on the forums.Actually to me the video part is mostly entertainment when something looks interesting but the forum is where the true value is.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 12:04:49 am
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on August 19, 2018, 05:30:17 pmEh - just step away for a week and simmer down. It ain't no big deal.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 12:09:53 am
content: Quote from: M4trix on August 19, 2018, 11:20:37 pmBTW he failed to mention that he had seen this "bugger off" only in email notification. Dave actually edited it to much milder phrase right away after leaving the comment on youtube, and bloguetronica posted unedited "bugger off" from email in the following comment for everyone to know. The most hilarious part is that bloguetronica makes this drama after writing himself:QuoteIt's frankly hilarious, first writing irrelevant, rude and disrespectful comments, then after receiving "bugger off" reply (which was immediately withdrawn) feeling offended.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 12:14:40 am
content: I thought the video hit on exactly the points it was intended to make. You gotta read those datasheets and pay particular attention to the graphs. Every number and every graph is a boundary on how you can apply the device. They're there to protect the manufacturer by telling the engineer where the boundaries are located. You have to color inside the lines!Truth be known, I'll probably never use one of those chips. None of them! But the real point about reading the datasheet remains true. There are lots of gotchas.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 02:13:38 am
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on August 19, 2018, 05:30:17 pmYou just did contribute, and then contributed twice more after thatI won't ban you, if you don't want to contribute here any more, just stop. If you don't want the temptation any more, TerraHertz provided a nice mechanism to help with that. If you still can't control yourself and just have to keep contributing here or on Youtube against your will after that, I'd suggest talking to a psychologist.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 02:23:34 am
content: I'm Joe Q Smith and I'm an EEVBLOG addict.Step 1 completed.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 02:29:44 am
content: Quote from: wraper on August 19, 2018, 09:17:26 pmYes, I specially showed the graph for and explained how the normal 7660 does not radically change modes (and hence ripple) like this with varying loads and temperature.For reference, the entire Youtube thread.He clearly already had his nickers in a knot, probably brewing for years, and it seems when I supposedly bad mouthed a chip he's used, that was the final straw. I've seen this countless times over the years, the resentment just festers up and then they finally snap over something fairly trivial, happens every day on Youtube.IIRC he's been slyly attacking me in other comments for quite a while now.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 02:40:27 am
content: Quote from: wraper on August 19, 2018, 08:38:48 pmAnyone who can't appreciate that a regulator that has a drastic non-linear change in output ripple (400-500% change) based on a small change in output load and/or temperature can't potentially "ruin your day" needs to get some more engineering experience I think.I thought that chip was a nice example of this, hence the prompt to do the video. Based on most of the other comments, a lot of people found it interesting and useful, and that's a win.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 02:45:35 am
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on August 19, 2018, 08:28:52 pmThis is hilarious. Twitter. Are you a celebrity? This may be a surprise to you that a lot of people give no shit about Twitter.

author: DavidDLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 02:52:39 am
content: A lot of people on this forum and on the youtube idolize DaveIf he is not right or not correct do not be afraid to tell him, a lot of people is in favor of him even when he is not correct.For example he likes to talk crap about bad designed products, well his meter falls on this category with a lot of fails, but people say: I received the meter and I love it.So for all people on this post, if the poster wants to leave, just help him to leave instead of deviating the main purpose of this post. Period.David DLC

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 03:04:23 am
content: To OP, if you think you're special, then NO, you are not.Most long members like me here had seen and experienced "TONS" of people like you came, disgruntled and whining about pulling their account like they're hero that saved the world.Just to let you know that this is likely to be ended that you will get booted because of the constant whining and stirring up in here unproductively.Consider you're lucky and honored as Dave is in the good mood and still replying to this thread.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 03:43:14 am
content: This is the message I got from the video:Quote from: wraper on August 19, 2018, 09:03:48 pmNever did I consider it an attack on the main chip mentioned and of course the significance of the "issues" being warned about are going to vary with the situation. Getting all fired up and charging to the defence of this chip is just so over the top, it bewilders me - but it is not anything new on the internet.FYI, the term "Bugger off" does not have an absolute, single meaning. It has "shades" of intensity that range from the extreme you seem to have taken on, down to something like "are you kidding?". One of the intermediate levels would read something like: "I don't agree with you are saying at all".Dave obviously realised this could have been misinterpreted and corrected that - but there it was. Somebody's pride had been hurt on the internet, so justification and retaliation come to the fore.The end result is that the complainant has simply highlighted their embarrassment ... and is likely going to escalate matters in an attempt to save face. In truth, the opposite is going to happen.Bloguetrónica - if you ever found a point where you worked out that Dave was simply pointing out a detail (refer to my first citation, above) and not really attacking the chip in question, you would have avoided ALL of this angst by simply saying something that acknowledged the fact - even if you wanted to suffix such a statement with your own support.Wanting to delete your account is somewhat of a knee-jerk reaction and making a display of such a request indicates you are driven by "saving face" rather than objectivity - which is unfortunate. You have taken something that did not deserve to be a storm in a teacup and have turned it into a tornado in a test tube.As you are someone who has made some useful contributions to the forum, I would hate to see you go - but if you cannot ease back from this stance, then it might be wise to do so. I would encourage you to take a break from active participation for a period - perhaps several days or so - and see if you can re-engage.If you could admit your reactions mentioned here were a bit intense, then that would go a long way for people to let the past stay in the past. Many of us can get hard-nosed about a topic every now and then and temperatures rise, but when we acknowledge those moments and settle down, things go back to normal pretty quickly.Dave isn't the perfect presenter - and I'm sure he would be one of the first to agree - but he does cover some extremely useful and interesting topics. He also covers some that don't really interest me - but that's fine. He's not there for my personal entertainment.I do hope you find your way back to participation here.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 03:46:29 am
content: Quote from: DavidDLC on August 20, 2018, 02:52:39 amPeople aren't afraid to tell me when I'm wrong, its comes with the territory of being a popular Youtuber. If I'm wrong about something you can bet that someone will tell me within moments of uploading a video. Indeed I use this fact as a "community proof checking" of sorts to see if I've screwed up so badly that I need to pull the video and edit it. I watch the comments for a few 10's of minutes after release and if it's bad I'll know about it practically instantly.QuoteHow is that an example of me being wrong?How is my video in question wrong?QuoteThe main purpose of this thread was for the OP to leave kicking and screaming because he's seemingly built up frustration about me and my content for quite some time. So be it, happens with monotonous regularity to every Youtuber. Carry on.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 04:12:29 am
content: Wow, this reminds me of the little kids who smash their toys on the ground and run home from the playground. If you want to leave the forum, just leave the forum, no need to announce it to everyone. If you don't agree with something Dave said then refute it and offer your own data or opinions, he is not infallible nor has he claimed to be to my knowledge.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 04:29:49 am
content: Quote from: james_s on August 20, 2018, 04:12:29 amIndeed. I invite people to correct me or share differing opinions, but just be equally prepared to have my position explained back to you or a counter argument given.I could of course just ignore and/or delete every comment I don't agree with, but I'm one of those Youtubers who takes the time to engage and hopefully clarify my position or reasoning etc.I do sometimes wonder why I bother though, I'm not the world's smartest Youtuber obviously.In this case I had no problem with his comment as such, I was just a tad bemused at his assertion that I was somehow "complaining" about the chip.Pointing out a possible interesting trap in a chip and thinking that might make an interesting educational video is hardly complaining about it. I believe I even said it looked like a decent chip otherwise and might fill your need.But then of course the real reason came out in his further posts. It had nothing to do with me being somehow wrong, it was just an outlet for some pent up anger or some such to be released.When people go off onto generalisations and mentioning other videos as examples etc and speaking for "many people", it's obvious it's not really about the actual thing in question.Any Youtuber who reaches a large enough audience will know what I'm talking about.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 05:01:32 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 20, 2018, 04:29:49 amThis is not limited to Youtube. It's a phenomenon that has been around for years.When I first got involved with retail electronics, a customer came in with a high energy complaint about a product they had recently purchased. They engaged with the manager who told me in no uncertain words to stay out of it. He then patiently listened to the customer "go off" and when they had run out of puff, he proceeded to ask questions and resolve the matter with the customer leaving in a very different mood.Afterwards he explained that all too often, people have had some problems that have nothing to do with the product - but some small issue with it has given them an avenue to vent. They then come into the store with a small problem and a lot of fire behind it. Having more than one member of staff involved will make them feel "ganged up" upon and so I was excluded to maintain the one-to-one balance. After the fire has mostly burned out, the customer has vented their frustrations and the manager can then start addressing therealissue.This same phenomenon can also appear on the internet, though the ability to resolve it amicably is far more difficult.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 05:27:27 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 20, 2018, 05:01:32 amIf only all the others stayed out of this one too. It too might have resolved itself amicably as well. I wasn't all that familiar with the OP's other posts on this forum but I went and looked and I have to say he seemed entirely moderate and decent.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 05:27:30 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 20, 2018, 05:01:32 amThe problem is the bell curve. The bigger you get, the more people you get under the bell curve of personality types, so the more outliers you get pop out on the extreme end.The end result is the big Youtubers get death threats because they said something bad about an Apple product, or said he instead of they or some such.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 05:28:48 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on August 20, 2018, 05:27:27 amYou must be new to community forums

author: chriswebb
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 07:28:32 am
content: Best not to engage with trolls. They do not converse in good faith. Just toxic humans looking to spread their toxicity to good people.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 07:35:56 am
content: There has been no suggestion that this member is a troll - and it is a bit unfair to bring this persona into the current discussion, IMO.Trolls like "to play". They won't even suggest leaving unless it is part of their game - and even then, they aren't likely to carry out such a threat.This person has simply "gone off" on an aspect of the video they have misinterpreted - and, like many on the internet, will fight tooth and nail to save face - only to have the opposite outcome.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 07:39:08 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 20, 2018, 05:27:30 amhttps://youtu.be/URAqnM1PP5E?t=104

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 07:40:58 am
content: As an admin of a different forum using the same forum software I can tell you it is not wise to delete an account since many members regret later and want to come back after a few months even had a case last month that wanted to come back after 5 years, and then it just can not be undone by no admin no owner nobody.Deleting posts is not done on a forum it destroys the consistency and makes it unreadable, you will punish those that are innocent to your grieve and might have some value from your already spent energy in the past.Only thing you can request is a change to your forum name and write it down if you ever want to come back and as suggested earlier forget your password and delete the cookies on your browser.

author: chriswebb
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 02:59:44 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 20, 2018, 07:35:56 amI think it's quite justified actually, and it is OK if you disagree. There is no rulebook for trolls to follow, however, except acting in bad faith. Which is what this member does when he chooses to quote edited posts from email and then comes whinging on the forums.

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 03:56:35 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on August 20, 2018, 02:45:35 amTwitter? What's Twitter? I thought that is what birds and gaggles of prepubescent girls do.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 04:08:22 pm
content: I thought that Twitter was a channel where the Trump is spreading his fake news?

author: @rt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 04:45:48 pm
content: Because we all love dramaI think I’ve only criticised one video, but while we’re at it:In this post, Brek hilights the fact that Dave introduces his videos, and the threads pertaining to them in the third person,after making a brief comment relating to the thread that his post is made in. He then goes on to type this paragraph, and presses the post button.

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 05:40:39 pm
content: The motto of the EEVBlog is "NO SCRIPT, NO FEAR, ALL OPINION", and i think in any case it´s better to take it for what it is - what a video blog can be. It is not a reference book on its own, the copy of a datasheet or academic education that can be made responsible for any decisions taken by the viewer. Being a videoblog also limits the reach of allegations for being obvious, incorrect or opinionated.However, the video demonstratably pointed out to check the quality of the output signal depending on parameters like temperature and load and i very much appreciated it, as it gave me a refresh of knowledge that simply gets lost as i am not working that deep in the field of electronics anymore, and currently only do it as a hobby. It also makes a point that temperature testing of devices may be crucial to not screw up badly - as this exceeds checking for allowable temperature ranges of components and calculation of simple temperature drift. With a little bit of afterthought it also allows to understand certain types of errors better and what to watch out for when analyzing problems with complete devices.That´s how i see such a video and this means it is up to the viewer to generalize and abstract the presented information, if there is none it might really be better to not watch them instead of discussing how useless this information was for oneself. For me the videos outdo the "all opinion" motto, as they usually contain a very good, sufficient explanation.There are way too many people that try to divide the world and all aspects of it into "good" or "bad", that then loose focus on the details that actually matter. For anyone not that deep into a subject a white-/blacklisting approach of parts or brands is simple but unnecessary and might be counterproductive once a fundamental problem (like temperature and load stability of typical charge pumps) is discussed.I´d hate if someone just gave me the information to not use this or that part without any explanation, or only based on a hasty opinion. That is worse than no information at all.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 05:50:16 pm
content: Without going back and reading the whole thing, can someone summarize what exactly happened? Did Dave criticize some IC that this guy designed?

author: BillB
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 06:02:21 pm
content: Perhaps those that are upset with the content in Dave's YouTube videos should just ask for their money back?

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 06:02:38 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on August 20, 2018, 05:50:16 pmAre you serious? The topic is only two pages.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 06:04:48 pm
content: Two pages with some "wall of text" replies and mention of some other threads and a video I have not seen, I figured someone could easily sum it up in a couple of sentences but it isn't that important to me.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 06:06:14 pm
content: Read post #24 and you have the core.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 06:59:06 pm
content: Wow so it's not even a part he designed or sells or anything, just something he has used that Dave said something negative about?

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2018, 11:25:38 pm
content: Quote from: chriswebb on August 20, 2018, 07:28:32 amThis guy had some critical comments that in all likelyhood he felt strongly about. That is not trolling. He made them and now after being told to bugger off he seems to have.Edit: @James_s this is my summary in a few sentences.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 02:21:40 am
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on August 19, 2018, 08:28:52 pmSo you got all upset and had to make all these posts because someone on the internet has a different opinion about a charge pump in a particular chip? What happens if you have an issue with someone in real life; like they tell you they don't like your favorite color? Do you ears start shooting out steam before your head explodes?I didn't even think it was possible to have any sort of passion over charge pumps. How do you feel about bare silicon dies? That must make you want to go out and buy a gun with a bump stock.You know what really grinds my gears? Germanium.Sure its PN junction has 0.5V less drop but you how easy it is to fry one? Or how about that stupid redline they paint on the glass diodes instead of a black one? Why red it's not as easy to see and doesn't match anything are they trying to say it has a value of just three? Three what? There is no multiplier on the package. Fucking germanium diodes. People that use them are scum.I once saw a video where a guy had a bad germanium transistor. in an amp and instead of putting in silicon, rebasing and deleting the thermistor he orders a 70$ pair from NTE! WTF? NTE is junk.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 02:26:36 am
content: Quote from: Beamin on August 21, 2018, 02:21:40 amEasier said than done, especially if it's a piece of vintage gear that you want to keep original. There may be amplifiers where you can swap GE to Si that easily but I wouldn't count on it.I'm not exactly a fan of NTE, but if they have the part you need sometimes it's a viable option.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 02:40:14 am
content: Quote from: BillB on August 20, 2018, 06:02:21 pmActually, some people who contact me (people often like to tell creators they are leaving because *insert reason*) use the "I've financially supported you for years by watching your videos without adblock", "I've bought your products or merch", or "have supported you from day one and help make you what you are" etc, and so seem to feel entitled that I owe it to them to address one persons personal grievance.Sure, I'll jump the whim of one out of 550,000 subscribersOf course, being me, when I take the time to hear their concern and try to address it (they ironically don't realise that just taking the time to personally hear out and respond to one of 550,000 subscribers is kinda a big olive branch in it's own right), it's always the same reason when you start probing them, just as in this case. It's never the actually about the thing they are complaining about, it's a broader resentment that has festered up over time.

author: tyguy2
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 02:43:40 am
content: I think that the fact that OP has stopped replying and hasn't been active since his last post means he has taken this thread's advice and just washed his hands of this. This discussion seems to have moved more towards circle jerking about how wrong OP is, why he is, etc, etc. It seems like he's moved on, maybe the forum should too?Edit: spelling

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 02:49:31 am
content: Quote from: james_s on August 20, 2018, 06:04:48 pm- I make a video about a chip and a demonstrable potential "trap" inside that chip. i.e. design advice- OP thinks that's being too harsh on the chip, he's used it before and it's fine. Completely missing the point of the video.- When I point out the point of the video the OP goes off about how I exaggerate tragedies, that I'm biased, and then goes on to mention other videos he didn't like etc and tries to speak for others viewers who also hate my approach.- I tell the OP to bugger off.- OP spits the dummy, starts thread to say he's leaving and posts all the "evidence" he's right

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 02:53:19 am
content: Quote from: tyguy2 on August 21, 2018, 02:43:40 amI guarantee you he's still reading. I know how people like this work.

author: tyguy2
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 02:55:15 am
content: I'm still a bit of a forum noob since I'm not here often, but doesn't the activity log show when they last used the forum?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 02:56:14 am
content: Quote from: tyguy2 on August 21, 2018, 02:55:15 amYes, but you don't need to be logged in to view this forum.

author: tyguy2
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 02:59:00 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 21, 2018, 02:56:14 amIn the end though, does it really matter if he's reading or not if he isn't logged in or responding? It's the equivalent of yelling "I know you're there" into an empty room

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 03:07:22 am
content: Quote from: tyguy2 on August 21, 2018, 02:43:40 amYep. The thread's title is a pretty good clue that he didn't wait around for the mob to gather with pitchforks. Looking at his posts he wasn't a very active poster but he was always considerate and helpful as far as I can tell. Even if you didn't agree with him. That he has attracted such a farewell is a shame.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 03:09:41 am
content: The guy is busy posting on his Twitter who nobody reads.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 03:28:33 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 21, 2018, 02:49:31 amSounds like classic Asperger's to me. I met a lot of people like that in the higher level courses in college. They all have greasy hair too!But seriously as an experienced EE you should know the issues with charge pumps at this point in your career. Thumbs down dislike unsubscribed donate a shit load of money on patreon then stopped, made a "sucks" hash tag and a subredddit.

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 03:34:47 am
content: Well, in my case, I watched the video when it was posted and seriously sh&t my pants !!! I've used all these chips for years and NEVER realized that they hadthat nasty step change !! or the non-linear noise curve. I had to go back through all my active past designs to check !! Fortunately, the currents never strayedpast app 1-2mA so all was good. Scariest was my 44S7P lithium EV packs. I have found several ICs over the years to have idiosyncrasies, but this is unbelievable.The video was valuable to this old horse ... now ... who do I Invoice for the messed pants !!???

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 03:48:43 am
content: Quote from: Beamin on August 21, 2018, 02:21:40 amGermanium! Don't complain about germanium, till you've tried copper oxide. Man those things suck bigtime. I don't know why anyone would use copper oxide rectifiers, they are utter crap. I mean look at this box full of copper oxide diodes I just found. You put 20V across one of these stupid things, you're lucky to get 300mA forward current. Can you imagine that? What kind of lunatics would ever use these heavy, chunky bits of junk?PS red = 2 not 3. Orange = 3.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 04:20:14 am
content: Quote from: tyguy2 on August 21, 2018, 02:59:00 amNope, doesn't matter at all, just pointing it out because someone mentioned it.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 04:21:26 am
content: Quote from: digsys on August 21, 2018, 03:34:47 amAnd right there is classic example of the potential value of a video like this. And judging by other comments a lot of people learned something and found it valuable.Yet the OP's argument is basically I shouldn't have botheredQuoteAll care, no responsibility.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 04:51:18 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 21, 2018, 04:21:26 amI've never done any design work with charge pump devices - but there is a project which has been presented to me that might need something in this vein. Even if this project doesn't pan out, this video has educated me to the fact that you should check the spec sheets thoroughly if you plan on using a device. What may work perfectly in the key operational phase of a circuit could cause havoc in (what is expected to be) an innocuous idle state.In short, the results of a chip manufacturer's decision to implement something as a "feature" could end up being someone's "bug" - and it would be best to discover this in the chip selection stage, not during the integration testing.I got the point of the video and I thank Dave for doing it.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 07:34:44 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 21, 2018, 02:40:14 amSo true!There is an old saying: "Its never the dirty laundry"If people show up here like this, they also show up in real life like this.

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 10:05:52 am
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on August 21, 2018, 07:34:44 amI am not so sure about that, a screen and a keyboard are very efficient in isolating a conversation from gestures, facial expressions and tone of voice, as the bandwith of text is quite limited.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 11:04:24 am
content: Quote from: SparkyFX on August 21, 2018, 10:05:52 amIndeed.In fact I ran into a forum member a few weeks back, one that, let's just say, we've never seen eye to eye on things to say the least. And both of us felt it was great to meet each other, had absolutely no animosity, and we hung out for a while and had some tech fun and got along really well.Real life trumps forum.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 11:19:49 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 21, 2018, 11:04:24 amExplicit, honest disagreements that generate more light than heat are great fun and can be very valuable.When someone coherantly disagrees with me, then that's an opportunity for me to learn something. Usually it is only that we place more/less emphasis on the various parameters (boring), but occasionally I learn somethingreallyvaluable. And that's great fun!If I had to choose between the forum exclusive-or real life, I'd choose the forum. Why? Because:I'm deaf (!)I can speedread muchmuchfaster than I can listen, which allows me to skip past rubbish and skip to valuable stuff (that's a big problem with videos)the forumpreservesawiderange of information on topics that I might only need sometime in the future

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 12:53:01 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on August 21, 2018, 11:19:49 amhttps://youtu.be/OQiZmji1FW8?t=3m30s

author: @rt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 01:14:00 pm
content: and surprisingly, the going rate fro Atari Adventure remained the sameQuote from: EEVblog on August 21, 2018, 12:53:01 pm

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 01:23:05 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 21, 2018, 12:53:01 pmThank you for saving 3:30 of my remaining life by skipping to the relevant bitUnfortunately the last bit was only 50% visible; the remainder was a sodding advert for something I've already forgottenRemind me again why yootoob videos are a good idea

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 05:51:47 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on August 21, 2018, 03:48:43 am

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2018, 05:56:44 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on August 21, 2018, 03:48:43 amJust to one up you copper oxide is nothing compared to gas diodes! There is a video some where where "glassSlinger" on youtube makes one by hand. That is truely tallent. Can you imagine in the early days drawing out a circuit and everytie you add the diode symbolyou think of the hours requird to had make all the parts! Oops got the wires backwards and let the smke out? That will be 5 hours of tedious lass blowing and vacuum pumping. I didn't know there was copper oxide. Will have to wikipedia that. Where did you get those? Do they have any use or ae they like selenium recitifiers where you simply replace them and be glad they are gone.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 22, 2018, 12:52:51 am
content: Quote from: Beamin on August 21, 2018, 05:56:44 pmYou know you can edit posts, post titles, and also delete accidental double posts? It often seems like you don't know this.Yeah, time cost of parts. Any time I try to imagine what it would be like trying to rebuild a crashed tech-society, the idea of having to hand make any electronic parts needed, makes me shudder. Resistors and capacitors, oh god.One point of order. With vacuum tubes, does the magic smoke escape? Or get let in?Copper oxide rectifiers are definitely 'replace on sight' rubbish. Bearing in mind that the circuit might require you include a series resistor to reproduce their horrible characteristics.I found that box among junk at the ACMS dispersal.One of them was rusty and shorted. I disassembled. Interesting construction, I should post it.

author: chris_leyson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 22, 2018, 01:26:02 am
content: @Beamin - If you are going to have a Germanium rant at least make the effort to start a new topic and also make the effort to put things into a historical perspective. We all need to have a rant about something at some time by why pick on Germanium ?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 23, 2018, 11:37:36 pm
content: Well it seems he's back, he just couldn't help himself from continuing to watch and comment after saying he's unsubed and not watching againAnother rant on my KiCAD video comments

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 23, 2018, 11:46:19 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 23, 2018, 11:37:36 pmIf people don't criticise you, you're not doing anything relevant.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2018, 03:19:46 pm
content: Maybe he was having a bad day and realized it was silly to storm off and leave. You never really know what someone else is going through elsewhere in life. I know that if something is really dragging me down it's easy to be cranky elsewhere and not even realize it at the time.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 01:43:57 am
content: I offered an olive branch for exactly that reason - and it has been ignored.

author: TERRA Operative
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 03:45:09 am
content: You know you've made it when even your haters watch your videos to the end, evidenced when they comment on a point well into the video.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 04:07:24 am
content: Quote from: TERRA Operative on August 25, 2018, 03:45:09 amThat was duly noted

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 04:10:14 am
content: Quote from: james_s on August 24, 2018, 03:19:46 pmHis account isn't banned here.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 06:06:22 am
content: Quote from: TERRA Operative on August 25, 2018, 03:45:09 amWould a "hater" need to watch all they way to the end? I'm not at all sure of it. In general terms what is the difference between a hater and a critic anyway. I'd like to think you've at least thought about it.Maybe one difference is that a critic actually watches all the way to the end. I can't think of a better distinction.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 07:26:14 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on August 25, 2018, 06:06:22 amWhile not an unreasonable thought - it could also be the sign of a hater who will watch every second to ensure they have every iota of ammunition possible.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 12:42:53 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 25, 2018, 07:26:14 amI think most people are critics to some extent and those who aren't are zealots. Most videos I watch have elements I dislike and things I like. For example one criticism I have many of Dave's videos is he sometimes waffles too much but I like the way he doesn't worry too much about offending people and presents information in an easy to understand manner.

author: PointyOintment
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 01:34:26 pm
content: Quote from: Ampera on August 19, 2018, 08:01:35 pmWhile I don't doubt that, it seems I cannot verify it, because the posts that result in bans get deleted at the same time as the ban is given.(I see a post in an old thread from a now-banned user. I click to their profile. I click to see their posts. I see nothing bad there. Therefore, I must conclude that either A: they were banned for nothing, B: they were banned for a post that was not one of their most recent posts, or C: the the ban-worthy post was deleted. B is unlikely to be the case for all banned users, and A isn't something I'd expect from the team here, leaving me with C. But the ban-worthy post isn't there to prove it isn't A.)

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 01:47:06 pm
content: Quote from: PointyOintment on August 25, 2018, 01:34:26 pmC and only C is ever enacted, that I've ever seen.Warnings are given and personal contact is made, I know 'cause I've had one.If you want to play in Dave's sandpit you play by his rules.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 02:05:13 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 25, 2018, 07:26:14 amI just don't want to see the OP carelessly branded a hater or a troll. Neither of which I think is true.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 25, 2018, 11:26:40 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on August 25, 2018, 02:05:13 pmHe's simply nutjob.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2018, 12:57:17 am
content: Quote from: wraper on August 25, 2018, 11:26:40 pmIf you type "what is a personal attack" into a popular search engine a couple of the the results you receive are:"personal-attack. Noun. (plural personal attacks) Making of an abusive remark on or relating to one's person instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments.""Personal attack may include challenges that question their intelligence, values, integrity, motivations, decisions and so on. "Is he a "nutjob"? I'm not here to say one way or another. I see personal attacks of various kinds here much more than I would think is healthy for a forum that sometimes wants to aspire to dispassionate facts based debate.If you read the forum rules you find this as the top two rules."I hate rules, but unfortunately we have to have some for this forum:1) Play nice with the other nerds2) No personal attacks. This is the biggest rule on this forum. If you don't follow it, you are not welcome here."I don't say the rules are in any particular order because I'd have swapped these two.One thing about an angry mob gathering ostensibly to defend Dave is that it takes control away from Dave to calmly reflect on whether the critic had a worthwhile point to make. In this particular case I don't think there was a valid point about the video that triggered the comments originally. But that has now become irrelevant.There was clearly an undercurrent of dissatisfaction about something else and it precipitated a corresponding overreaction which hasn't been helpful to anyone. Except perhaps the actualhaterswho benefit from watching the fireworks from the sidelines. And some of them could even be actively participating in these sort of debates camouflaged as fans and friends.An enemy who attacks from the front cannot stab you in the back.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 26, 2018, 02:13:26 am
content: Labels such as "nutjob" are, I find, an understandable, but not necessarily accurate, categorisation of an individual.Social media in all its forms provide a degree of anonymity which emboldens many to declare an opinion of a type, content and/or manner that they would never do face to face.It has been my observation that more than a few of these people often do so because they do not have the self esteem necessary for direct confrontation. It is not unusual for these people to "double down" when confronted with an error in their logic or to have a misunderstanding pointed out, rather than simply apologise, amend their argument and move on - because the act of concession on any point would be felt as a failure of their "righteousness" as it were. They plough on regardless - not so much as in the hope of convincing others, but more to safeguard their perception of themselves.Having said that, I should make it clear that I am not saying this characteristic is limited to social media environments. Not at all. There are many examples where you will find people openly espousing and challenging a variety of subjects in the face to face world who will conduct themselves similarly. Social media just makes it easier for the more timid.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 26, 2018, 04:04:57 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on August 26, 2018, 02:13:26 amIf someone gets angry from mild criticism of his beloved component (has several circuits with it on his blog), there should be a few screws loose. And further reaction only confirms this assumption.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2018, 07:54:06 pm
content: It could even be indicative of a mental health problem. He could have been bullied in the past and developed a persecution complex, along with some element of social anxiety and paranoia. It typically results in very defensive behaviour where any criticism or light hearted joke is perceived as a highly personal attack. I can identify with this because it was me in the past, when I was depressed. Fortunately I got help, eventually and worked through it. Occasionally I find myself relapsing into such behaviours, mostly when I'm in a stressful situation, when I feel anxious and vulnerable, but I now normally realise at some point and stop or at least lessen them.The solution is not to provoke the person. Explain, the errors in their reasoning, you're not attacking them personally, then move on if they cannot accept it.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2018, 10:18:44 pm
content: Well, how about this. Try going back to the original sequence of posts the OP here made on Youtube.See if you too don't come away shaking your head completely mystified how we got from there to here. It's just bizarre.For those that just aren't that interested here is the OP comments about the chip."The LM2776 is not a bad chip for a charge pump, as it shows a ripple of around 100mVpp. I've used it, and was not a nuisance, since I've applied a Pi filter at its input, and the output was being used to feed a voltage regulator, anyway. On the other hand, the Maxim chip is crap (as most Maxim parts are). I'm yet to find a charge pump as good as this one, truth to be told.﻿"Yes, I do agree that he seemed to miss the point of the video. But as for how this escalated from his original comments to the present situation, well it's all there for you to read and draw your own conclusions.But there is no way I will think he is a nutjob, is displaying defensive behaviour or is an obvious fanboy for any particular chip.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 12:06:36 am
content: I'll go along with all of that - except for the defensive behaviour bit. While it is not as bad as some I have seen, that does show through very clearly to me.I think this discussion has devolved far enough to let it go now ....

author: jeffheath
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 03:59:07 am
content: Some people need to learn how to boycottI haven't watched a single Louis Rossmann stream/video in over a year, and I never will again. How stupid would it be if I just showed up to every one of his streams like: okay I'm leaving now! This time's for real!

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 05:07:28 am
content: I don't think I've ever watched one either, but why would you boycott them? I don't recall hearing anything particularly bad about him or his videos.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 05:45:26 am
content: QuoteDepends why you are leaving. If it's something that is potentially fixable, and having been fixed you'd stick around, it would be stupidnotto bring it up - someone can't fix a problem they don't know exists. But there is no point banging on about it all the time if it doesn't go your way.

author: jeffheath
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 07:57:55 am
content: I guess "boycott" was a strong word. Main point is I was kind of where OP is with Dave, but instead of doing what would have felt like arguing (but would really be nagging/bickering) It felt pretty rewarding to "boycott" him, and just look the other way.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 09:03:31 am
content: Quote from: james_s on August 27, 2018, 05:07:28 amEvery single Youtuber will eventually do or say something that pisses someone off enough to make them never watch again.

author: rjp
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 11:26:38 am
content: their is a creepy thing that happens with some folks that wobbles between the highs of hero worship and the lows of demon hating.instead of the youtube producers being regular old humans who are sometimes right, sometimes wrong and sometimes meh, they take it to strange new places.the AvE guy appears to also get that in droves.not to mention this field is chock full of nearly autistic, slightly lacking in social skills types (mirror mirror go away)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 11:30:45 am
content: Quote from: rjp on August 27, 2018, 11:26:38 amAvE, myself, Louis Rossman, Electroboom to name a few who do "controversial" type videos and/or outspoken commentary get the brunt of stuff like this. But even your most polite and well spoken Youtuber will get it too.And again, it has to do with channel size. The more popular you get, the inevitability of the outlier audience you'll pick up.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 11:58:54 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 27, 2018, 11:30:45 amIs this a viable alternative to SETI ?

author: Spark-Doctor
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 01:08:14 pm
content: Opinions are like Arseholes, everyone has one and everyone can use it. Just respect every ones right to use it.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 04:26:20 pm
content: With rights come responsibilities.If someone expectsmeto respect their use of their arsehole, then I would expectthemto be responsible in how they do that.

author: TERRA Operative
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 04:46:25 pm
content: Quote from: Spark-Doctor on August 27, 2018, 01:08:14 pm"Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and they all stink"Quote from: EEVblog on August 27, 2018, 11:30:45 amThat old bell curve, the problem is it always seems to be that minority of discontented viewers who scream loudest and also seem to completely lack the ability to hit that little 'x' in to top right corner.

author: jeffheath
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 06:42:04 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 27, 2018, 11:30:45 amIf by outspoken commentary you mean being "frank", than I can't say I stopped watching Rossmann for being controversial, or outspoken. I guess I made it personal (which is stupid) and maybe OP did too.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2018, 06:59:44 pm
content: QuoteYeah, Mac fanbois can be quite loud, but most don't seem to be discontented

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 12:02:33 am
content: Quote from: jeffheath on August 27, 2018, 07:57:55 amBut don't overlook that the OP was initially given short shrift and told to "bugger off". I rarely look at youtube comments and even more rarely EEVBlog YT comments so I don't know what he has previously said to deserve such a strong response. It may be quite justified.It is quite evident from the OP here he didn't think so.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 01:21:16 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on August 28, 2018, 12:02:33 amWrong.You can read the full exchange for yourself, I posed it. My first reply was one of my usual trying to clarify what my video was about.And IIRC he had been a bit of serial complainer in the comments for quite some time, much like yourself Wilfred who seem to have an unusual fascination of, let's say "taking me to task" as often as possible, to the point I've had to warn you and you subsequently apologised, but you continue to do with monotonous regularity.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 01:24:07 am
content: Quote from: jeffheath on August 27, 2018, 06:42:04 pmIt'salwayspersonal, it's calledYoutube for a reason.And there is nothing wrong with that, it's inevitable. Any Youtuber who gets upset at viewers taking things personally will never survive on the platform.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 01:32:07 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 28, 2018, 01:24:07 amFrom comments I've read on your channel and others, most of the inane comments are handled by others so you don't have to do a lot of the dirty work yourself LOL.

author: rjp
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 03:52:20 am
content: the big take away from all this is that if you are starting a new youtube electronics channel right now"LM2776 and the TS100 , why do they suck so much"is the way to go.

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 04:06:20 am
content: Quote from: rjp

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 04:20:07 am
content: Quote from: rjp on August 28, 2018, 03:52:20 amNice work.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 02:34:43 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on August 22, 2018, 12:52:51 am

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 02:40:33 pm
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on August 22, 2018, 12:52:51 amI'm having real bad vision problems right now especially with sites that are black text on white. Inverting my screen works but no good for watching videos or seeing pictures. I see the eye doctor soon, I hope.I was actually searching for a picture of what they look like taken apart this morning and also whats inside a huge pancake thyristor; a flat plate or metal rod to take current? Please post!!!!And to the other person who said I should make another thread about my germanium rant: It wasn't a rant I was pointing out the absurdity of getting upset at something so specific, trivial, and inconsequential. If that upsets you what happens when you are faced with a real problem? #IHEARTGERMANIUMDIODES

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 03:50:44 pm
content: Beamin you have no idea what you are talking about. Germanium diodes are used in RF for their low drop voltage where each fraction of a V counts.

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2018, 05:55:57 pm
content: In totally unrelated yet pertinent things in my life I have been running with my 1year old in his buggy.I get a child like thrill catching and dropping other runners...In my blood deprived brain this has evolved fromBuggy-edBuggiedBuggiredBuggeredTo finally bugged-off.Anyway the kid loves it and screams like a loon when we catch someone, adding insult to injury.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 03, 2018, 12:36:23 am
content: And he's back again posting like nothing happened

author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2018, 12:55:37 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 03, 2018, 12:36:23 amDave,I let it sit for a few days. And also reconsidered my stance because one forum user asked to, via PM which incidentally gone to my e-mail, and also because other users suggested that there was no reason to delete my account here. I was not to be ever back out of pride, but I decided to ignore certain opposing voices, after considering some requests in my favor.Anyway, this topic should have died by now, but I'm amazed how it grew, despite my absence. I do not wish to delve into it, and didn't read all the posts.In this forum, I'll limit myself to help other users, post some of my projects for whom might concern, express one opinion or another, and that is it. I don't wan't to pass as a troll of some sort.Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 03, 2018, 02:54:35 am
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on September 03, 2018, 12:55:37 amWell what alerted me to your presence back here was a report from a user about your political post on an EU related which I had to delete to tidy up the thread, so you aren't off to a good start...

author: jeffheath
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2018, 04:45:05 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 03, 2018, 02:54:35 amOh crap, I hope he doesn't feel targeted now (as in, more "eyes" on him; more likely to get reported)

author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2018, 05:05:07 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 03, 2018, 02:54:35 amSorry for that Dave. Gone off-topic there.Quote from: jeffheath on September 03, 2018, 04:45:05 amActually, no. I don't feel targeted. If I had reasons to feel targeted, I wouldn't have made the decision to go back.Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2018, 12:51:19 pm
content: After a period of clam reflection things can look much different. Good on you for staying.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2018, 09:14:10 am
content: Quote from: Bud on August 28, 2018, 03:50:44 pmIt was a joke. Electronic parts don't elicit an emotional response from me. I was pointing out the absurdity of the original poster for taking things too seriously. I was trying to sound like I have no idea what I'm talking about.Next I will put:<SARCASM=START> <SARCASM=END> tags around the post

author: VK5RC
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2018, 12:02:08 pm
content: https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/minds-business/youre-joking-detecting-sarcasm-in-emails-isnt-easy.html

author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2018, 04:48:51 pm
content: HI,In my defense, it was not the fact that the part being targeted elicited a response from me. I'm not a part fanboy, and although I usually use TI parts in my projects, I recognize that TI does crap from time to time.My original rant was about the perceived exaggeration, seen frequently in some of his videos. For example, Dave using the expression "can ruin your day" instead of something more closer to the facts. I was expecting to see him testing the part to see what was being ruined, but noise in the order of a few mV after regulation is not an issue. As I said, there are charge pumps that show a permanent 200mV or even 300mV ripple under all load conditions. But if that is an issue, low pass filtering works very well. I'm talking from experience.Regarding my experience with the chip, I had some noise on my function generator, but it is not a big deal. Didn't ruined my day at all. Unfortunately, this fact didn't had any weight here.As for the accusations of being in the extreme of some bell curve, being a troll, making snarky comments (only recalltwothree occasions among perhaps a total of 20 comments where my views could be perceived as snarky - but subjectivity is a factor here), not to mention some stronger ones from other members, I didn't deserved that. However, I won't further comment on this, as well as on Dave's videos.Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço

author: bsfeechannel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2018, 05:42:56 pm
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on September 05, 2018, 04:48:51 pmThat's a figure of speech: "a word or phrase used in anon-literal sensefor rhetorical or vivid effect." CourtesyGoogle Inc.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2018, 05:46:25 pm
content: C'mon FFS, swallow it and stand like a man, and silently walk away.Since you are who started this, I believe you have the right to ask the mod to lock this thread and let it sink, and again just let go.... unless you're not mature enough to understand what I mean.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2018, 05:58:03 pm
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on September 05, 2018, 04:48:51 pmIt's just an expression, a figure of speech -Quotehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speechDude just chill out and go on about your business.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 06:20:15 am
content: I will add a final comment about some of the language that Dave uses. The two examples that come to mind are the "bugger off" comment and this:Quote from: bloguetronica on September 05, 2018, 04:48:51 pm"Bugger off" can have more than one interpretation - but one of the most common is where the message is along the lines of "stop talking about this" - and, perhaps "leave the room". It is rarely (but can be) a reference to exile."Ruin your day" is an expression where you might be feeling really good about a project getting close to completion. You've set expectations for your management and your customer - and then discover a fundamental problem that going to really cause unhappiness with them. Your day of feeling close to accomplishment changes very quickly ... and so what was going to be a wonderful day - is now "ruined".These are two examples of where not being familiar with the cultural background of the author - even if you have a competent grasp of the language (not being a native speaker) - some expressions will not lend themselves to accurate interpretation. This is certainly what has happened here.So the OP had a brain fart. It's not as if it was something we each haven't done at some point in our life.We've all had something to say about it and he spent some time cooling off. Now he's come back and is constructively re-engaging in the forum, so I think it's about time this thread was forgotten about.Everybody ... let's just move on.

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 07:03:49 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on September 06, 2018, 06:20:15 amIf thebugger offwas so mildly intended why then was it retracted so quickly? You (and I) might want this thread to die but you can't go around rewriting history. And just what was this brain fart the OP had? As far as I can see he had a genuine reason to feel hard done by. I've certainly never seen a good explanation of just what this egregious criticism was that shows he got what he deserved.As far as I am concerned he always constructively engaged the forum. Any suggestion otherwise is unwarranted.If there was any cooling off needed it wasn't from the OP.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 07:20:32 am
content: QuoteThat works both ways, doesn't it? Perhaps the native English-speakers haven't quite grasped the translated culture of the OP in a similar way, and jumped to the same position that they accuse him of doing.And whilst I'm here...QuotePoorly phrased, but probably the best thing to do. Except..QuoteA good clear example of being mature. Not.FWIW, I think we are in the realms of nitpicking the letters of words now. As usual, there is the faint whiff of mob bandwagoning and nothing the OP can say will clear this up - someone will always find something to allow another go at him.Anything of significance has been said and pondered, and what's left won't be constructive, so I would second the call for a mod to lock this thread.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 08:35:04 am
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on September 05, 2018, 04:48:51 pmBut that's the thing. It seemed like it literally ruined your day or at least a full days worth of time hence all the time spent on just this thread. Obviously if someone says "ruin your day" that's hyperbole or an exaggeration. I realize some people on tech forums have Asperger's or are "on the spectrum" I myself have had people tell me this who didn't know me or my style of humor. But at the same time normal people don't understand people on the spectrum, just like those who are on it don't understand normal people. Again taking things way too seriously. If you don't know what Asperger's is you will think "wow this guy's a total asshole" and they are kind of right. It's like saying "My boss is going to kill me if I don't finish this project!" we don't call the police on them. My point is: if people took things a little less seriously and literally half of the problems wouldn't even exist because there only problem was the ones we created by misinterpreting things, then doubling down and going into attack/defense made. I'm just as guilty on this board of doing this once: someone one made a comment that I thought was transphobic. It was a similar comment to ones that probably related to a young persons suicide. But I draw the line over getting upset about charge pumps and those damn germanium diodes, honestly what's wrong with having a bit of extra voltage drop say 0.6 instead of 0.2? Is it that hard to just re-bias or up the input voltage? F*cking germanium diodes always ruining peoples days...so many lost days...<SARCASM=END>

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 08:40:08 am
content: Why am I not surprised.From Dave's number 1 fan:Quote from: wilfred on September 06, 2018, 07:03:49 am* Sigh *

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 09:43:37 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on September 06, 2018, 08:40:08 amProbably because we've been here before. Do you never stop to think that your unwavering defence of Dave has the major downside of making it look to everyone that you think Dave is incapable of defending himself and his actions?Do you ever stop and thinkDave needs my help like he needs a hole in the head?Rather than roll your eyes and sigh you should reflect on just what happened. Blind Freddy can see it, I can see it and every forum member reading this saga can see it. You are completely delusional if you think a strategy of denial and obfuscation is going to conceal it.Trust me. You are not helping. What you don't want to do is ask me to spell it out for you just why you are not helping.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 11:07:18 am
content: I know precisely what I am doing - and how it may be perceived.I can also see exactly what you are doing - and so can everyone else with an objective eye.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 12:49:22 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on September 06, 2018, 09:43:37 amDave makes the rules here. If you don't like how he runs this place, then please leave. Complaining about it will not achieve anything. You've tried to take it up with him and it's not resulted in the outcome you desire, so you need to either accept it or leave. You don't have to post here or watch any of the videos, if it upsets you so much. There are plenty of other bloggers and forums about electronics and engineering on the Internet.Quote from: bloguetronica on September 05, 2018, 04:48:51 pmWhy can't you simply let this thread fall into history? If you hadn't bumped it, then people would be starting to forget about this saga and move on, but you reignited it.Why do you feel the need to defend yourself? There's no need to be defensive. Those who've labelled you a troll will no doubt forget about it in a few weeks time if you don't resurrect it.This has obviously been on your mind for the last coupled of days, so is probably why you felt compelled to bump this. You really need to work out another way of dealing with this. Perhaps things need to be put into perspective. This is the Internet. It shouldn't be an important part of your life. If it is, then you need to look for other things to occupy yourself. Perhaps taking a break from posting anywhere on the Internet is in order? When someone posts something online to upset you, keep telling yourself this "It's the Internet, no one cares, so I don't care!"

author: taydin
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 12:55:43 pm
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on September 05, 2018, 04:48:51 pmIf your comment on YT would have been constructive, or worded in a positive way, things would have been very different and everybody would have just been on their merry way. But your comment was oozing negativity and subtle attacks, which was the REAL reason all of this non-sense happened. Please realize this and move on!This is also a good life lesson. Being constructive and positive towards others is a much better strategy to get results.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 01:23:49 pm
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on September 05, 2018, 04:48:51 pmWow, you want to rehash this again? Really?QuoteWatch the damn video and comprehend what I was saying.If you design for and test your circuit for a certain noise level, that noise can increase up to500%just by variations in temperature and/or small load changes if you happen to be right on the limit.That could potentially "ruin your day".Now give it a rest.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 01:29:45 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on September 06, 2018, 09:43:37 amDo you ever stop to think that your unwavering subtle attacks on me at every available opportunity over many years and several warnings won't eventually get you banned?

author: mzzj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2018, 01:58:56 pm
content: I think Dave should tune his vocabulary more to AvE -'ishque, just to bugger of these nitpicks

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 01:35:22 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 06, 2018, 01:29:45 pmYes, I do stop to think that you may ban me at any time. You have a solid history of silencing your critics through banning or by attacking them for daring to criticise you.My interest in this thread was to defend the OP against what I saw as an unreasonably strong response to some fairly mild criticism. I don't like the way you use your power in this forum to attack your critics and that you don't stand firm against those forum members who join in and attack them by calling them trolls, haters, nutjobs and so on. Threatening to ban me is just another means of intimidation you are openly prepared to use to silence me.Make no mistake, this is the internet, if I was so wrong in what I say there would be no shortage of people willing to say so. But even forum members who have been members for only a few months prefix there critical posts with statements like "I'll probably get shot down for this" and they go to obvious lengths to sugar coat it.As I said a month or so ago I think you have drifted beyond salvation and I no longer have a heart big enough, an arm strong enough or a rope long enough to throw out to save you from yourself.There is absolutely no point in attacking me for criticising you. What you need to do is to put your efforts into making consistently high quality videos for the community here. This is not a community of stupid people they see what is going on as well as I do.You fail to see the upside of my criticism. You get to suppress criticism from others by allowing them to watch how I get treated. The smart ones amongst them realise the pointlessness of it.Whilst I still don't want to be banned I am not going to be intimidated by the threat of it.

author: jeffheath
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 02:03:57 am
content: I bet 50 dollars and a ts100 soldering iron that this thread (or topic? I'm used to calling them threads) is gonna get locked.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 02:12:04 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on September 07, 2018, 01:35:22 amBullshit and demonstrably untrue.I only ban people whocontinuallyharass me (that's you, in a subtle death by a thousand small criticisms way), or those who threaten me or others.QuoteYou have been warned many times over the years about your subversive subtle attacks on me, and IIRC you have even apollogised for it and said you would stop doing that. But you always continue to magically appear in any thread that involves even the slightest criticism of me and you modus operandi is to just pile on subtle ways, in hundreds of threads and posts. Every time without fail. You are the death by a thousand innocent cuts criticiser. I know what you do, and it's visible to many who deeply follow the forum.QuoteYou fail to see (actually fail to admit publicly, because you are well aware of it), your long history of subtle attacks on me.I've given you a massive amount of leeway over many years because banning you on the surface to people would look like banning you for an otherwise fairly innocent criticism. Many people don't know the rich and deep history of your subtle attacks on me. Just countless piling on on every single thread that involves the slightest criticism of me. You almost never start it, but you always join it without fail.I will not allow this to continue. Consider this your final warning after these many years. Do not contribute to any thread in the future that involves criticism of me, you have lost your right to do that on this forum. Go head, test me.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 02:29:02 am
content: With a magic and persistent mix of passive-aggressive, trolling, a consistently self centred attitude and sailing close to the wind, it is inevitable that he will continue to press his luck.While it has always been at Dave's expense, I found his antics some of the best entertainment around. The words of Saint Wilfred usually make me smile - and when they don't, it's because he's made a post that doesn't attack Dave in some way. Those just feel weird.It's no secret that the expression of this abrasive style has been going on for a very, very, very, very long time and I wouldn't blame Dave for banning Wilfred ... but I would miss him.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 02:39:43 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on September 07, 2018, 02:12:04 amThere have been a few people banned that I was never sure what happened. I assume their last posts are normally deleted. I understand you banned someone who posted porn as well.If you start going after people who threaten meters, I am gone...

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 03:10:11 am
content: Dave has his own published exploits of torture tests on a Fluke DMM and a Keysight DMM.I think you're safe.

author: bsfeechannel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 05:48:37 am
content: I can't understand why people would attack Dave. I'm so grateful for his forum and channel. Where else could we have such a free and comprehensive environment for the exchange of knowledge about our interest in electronics? There are alternatives, of course, but none of them made me want to contribute, for instance.I think people confound disagreement with aggression, or don't know how to separate the two.In fact, in psychology circles, the ability to express your point of view without being aggressive is a communication skill called assertiveness.

author: TERRA Operative
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 05:54:54 am
content: Quote from: bsfeechannel on September 07, 2018, 05:48:37 amJealousy maybe? Narcissism even?

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 05:55:50 am
content: Quote from: bsfeechannel on September 07, 2018, 05:48:37 amYou have to understand the situation at these new age, kids these days are so materialized minded, that even at their own willingly spent time & energy, and see those their own personal resources consumed for the "free" stuffs are considered as a payment/contribution to the content author, hence the crankiness and over demanding.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 06:07:47 am
content: Quote from: bsfeechannel on September 07, 2018, 05:48:37 amWhile there are many triggers that evoke many outbursts, this particular one came - as I see it - from a fundamental lack of the language skill called: Comprehension. The OP did not fully understand what Dave said and only picked up on one aspect of the subject matter and acted on his perception that Dave was condemning a particular component - which just happened to be a favourite of his that he had used several times. I presume the OP became inflamed because he saw Dave as rubbishing his design and, therefore, him.Which was simply not the case.What followed after that was an effort of saving face ... and those always get awkward.

author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 07:53:23 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on September 07, 2018, 06:07:47 amIn a sense, yes. However, I didn't took the criticism to the part as personal, because you would Dave criticize my designs if he was not possibly aware of them? I think that is a bit overstretched. What "inflamed" me (in reality I couldn't care less, past a certain point - but indeed it was a trigger to the whole issue, and then to the real inflamation) was some perceived lack of experimentation with the part, along with a degree of assumption solely based on the datasheet.But that is just my opinion, based on my own experience and perception, and everyone has the right to his own.Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço

author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 08:06:18 am
content: Quote from: jeffheath on September 07, 2018, 02:03:57 amYou could bet. For me, it is the sensible thing to do. However, I don't wish to ask it myself. I don't want to pass as a censor.Anyway, this thread devolved int conjectures and assumptions, and went unproductive (well, it was already unproductive to start with, truth to be told). If all the other threads that I started had the same kind of response, I would be rich by now, or at least more enlightened. My view is that this thread has no purpose, and yes, should be closed.Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 08:25:43 am
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on September 07, 2018, 07:53:23 amThis is precisely the issue. Dave never made any attempt to do any experimentation and he did not make any "assumptions". Yes, he expressly kept within the datasheet - because that is all he needed to do to describe the issue which was the core objective of the video.Doing any experimental work would have been pointless, because there would have been dozens, if not hundreds of different use cases many of which would have not had a problem with the chip - and if hediddesign and build a circuit to demonstrate the issue, he would have had critics about that.The whole video was about raising awareness for designers. That they need to make themselves familiar with the behaviour of a device under all conditions - not just the ones that make it to the heading of the datasheet.Using the datasheet as the single reference for this video was completely appropriate.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 08:44:30 am
content: Quote from: bsfeechannel on September 07, 2018, 05:48:37 amWhen you get a big enough audience it's inevitable given personality types across the population. Happens to every Youtuber.

author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 08:46:55 am
content: Brumpy, I'm just saying (once again) what elicited my response. I'm not (or no longer) saying that Dave is wrong or right. As I said, it is just my opinion. Everyone has one.I think I've stated the above on many other occasions, in this thread. I'm repeating myself way too much, way beyond acceptable or reasonable levels. Anyway, lets agree on disagreeing, and close the topic while at it.Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 08:51:28 am
content: Quote from: bloguetronica on September 07, 2018, 07:53:23 amHere we go againThere is no "degree of assumption", the datasheet is very clear, the graphs are very clear, there is rapid sudden 500% increase in noise that varies with temperature and small changes in load current due to the mode changing. I thought that would be interesting to people because people love these "trap" type things which I've done many times before.QuoteThere is zero opinion in my video, it's just highlighting a subtle fact that might ordinarily get overlooked. You don't have to care about that nor think it's not important and that's fine, but countless others found great value in knowing that.

author: bloguetronica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 09:02:14 am
content: Yes, Dave. Now I understand the trap for young players. In fact, I did a while ago. If it is required for me to admit that I was wrong, then yes, I was wrong and over-reacted, based on nothing except my perception, which elicited my opinion and my response.I really regret that I've started this topic. I mean, seven pages of this.Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 07, 2018, 09:08:38 am
content: Thank youbloguetronica.That statementvery clearlycovers anything and everything needed to wrap up this discussion - so let's hope everyone else can move on. I can see you want to - and I know I do.See you in someotherthreads.