Siglent SDS2000X-E - Page 1
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author: oewean
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2018, 01:58:18 pm
content: Siglent will release the SDS2000X-E on 10th December.Will come in two flavors, 200MHz and 350MHz...

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2018, 02:52:08 am
content: Quote from: oewean on December 05, 2018, 01:58:18 pmAdded from later info:All info is now available:https://int.siglent.com/products-overview/sds2000x-e/https://siglentna.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds2000x-e/https://www.siglenteu.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds2000x-e/--------------------------------------------------------------------And many of the same features offered in SDS1004X-E.....Bode plotMSO optionAWG optionWiFi optionWaveform searchNavigate/History/Sequence1Mpt FFTWeb browser etc etcBut plus:2 GSa/s sampling28 Mpts memory50 ohm inputs

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2018, 10:50:40 am
content: What are the main differences for the 1000X-E?

author: rf-loop
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2018, 01:16:03 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on December 06, 2018, 10:50:40 amYou need split thinking to two separate pathway.SDS1002X-ESDS1004X-EEven when SDS2xx2X-E is 2 channel it is not evolution of SDS1002X-EIt is better imagine it is more like half channel SDS1004X-E mutation- evolution (lot of similarities except BW samplerate and due to double samplerate memory is doubled so it is proportionally same.)It is - imho - not any kind of big jump to up or side. Only more choices for customers in the current product range at approximately the same level.SDS5000X ... it is totally different case. It's proportionally big step out of the current product portfolio.

author: BillB
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 06, 2018, 01:50:27 pm
content: Quote from: rf-loop on December 06, 2018, 01:16:03 pmI wonder why this is only offered as a two channel, and not four channel? How much more popular are the two channel units vs. the four channel ones overall?

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2018, 02:42:17 pm
content: Quote from: rf-loop on December 06, 2018, 01:16:03 pmSo, it's a 1004 with 2 channels, more BW and memory. Other features are the same, so it takes advantage of their maturity (or lack of). I bet it has network security issues, bla, bla, bla...I don't find it bad. It widens the entry portfolio.I'm waiting for the SDS5000 but now there are also the Rigols...

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2018, 06:29:47 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on December 06, 2018, 02:42:17 pmThis ^ and at a good price too, a 2ch 200 MHz 2 GSa/s DSO.......under $650 !

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2018, 07:19:58 pm
content: Or 350 MHz...

author: Performa01
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2018, 10:41:34 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on December 06, 2018, 02:42:17 pmApart from everything else, I can assure you that a 100MHz square wave looksverydifferent on a true high bandwidth scope from what has been shown in the MSO5000 hacking thread.

author: rhb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2018, 02:53:28 am
content: With a 100 MHz square wave there isn't much time for the ringing from a fast edge to die down.IMHO Leo Bodnar's 10 MHz, <40 pS rise time square wave pulser is more appropriate for torturing scopes into confessing. I've subjected an MSOX3104T and an RTM3104 to it. The "1 GHz" Keysight had a 436 pS rise time with 7% overshoot. I sent it back. An RTM3104 demo unit had a 350 pS rise time and 3% overshoot. Until I installed the 1.300 FW update. At which point it had 10% overshoot. Reverting to 1.100 did not restore the 3% overshoot. I shall let the reader draw their own conclusions. I was quite shocked as my experience calibrating a Tek 465 led me to expect no more than 3% overshoot. So I went from delighted to horrified in a week.I'm very skeptical of the Rigol DS1000E/Z hacks as I've never seen any step responses. Logically with a DSO, you build it, then you measure the AFE performance and apply a correction for component tolerances. After that, if you want software BW updates you apply a 2nd digital filter. The 1st filter is calibration for that instrument. The 2nd filter is a license option.I recently bought a refurbished 485 on eBay. I've not yet done the full cal procedure which is *very* long, but I plan to adjust it to under 1% overshoot, rise time be damned. I don't care if it's only 300 MHz at -3dB. I want to be sure that any ringing is the DUT or user error.My LeCroy DDA-125/LC684DLX has a <250 pS rise time and 20% overshoot. I plan to correct that with sensible anti-alias filters. 750 MHz for 4 channel mode and 1.5 GHz for 2 channel mode.My Rigol DS1102E is 3% and my Instek MSO-2204EA is 5% both with rise time = 0.35/BW. And an Instek GDS-2072E hacked to 200 MHz exactly matches the 2204EA both at full BW and at 100 MHz.There's a long thread about Leo's pulser here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/yet-another-fast-edge-pulse-generatorwith lots of screen shots on a wide variety of instruments. And each unit comes with a printout of the step response on a very high BW scope. It beats the pants off the Tek 106s I bought to calibrate my 465 and Dumont 1060.

author: MrW0lf
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2018, 08:56:17 am
content: Just a word of caution for generic reader - if plan to poke actual DUTs with x10 probes then it may make sense to get probe => BNC M & BNC F-F adapter and stick Leo's pulser on the end of probe [possibly with additional 50Ω load], not directly on scope BNC with ext or int 50Ω.

author: Performa01
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2018, 11:56:11 pm
content: EDIT:Be aware that this is from a high bandwidth scope and of course not from an SDS2000X-E!I thought I should back up my claims by showing an example:Square 100MHz_Z2ns+FFTThis is a 100MHz square wave with <<100ps transition time.Main timebase is 100ns/div in order to get a sufficiently detailed FFT from DC to 2GHz.Zoom timebase is 2ns/div in order to get a detailed Y-t view.Automatic measurements:FOV = Overshoot after a falling edge.ROV = Overshoot after a rising edge.Rise & Fall times are not accurate because of limited scope rise time and also time measurement resolution limited to 20ps at that timebase.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2018, 12:40:14 am
content: Quote from: Performa01 on December 07, 2018, 11:56:11 pmHello!That is a nice square. What is the generator if I may ask?And scope handles it quite well.. Frontend looks very decent here....Take care!

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2018, 10:03:01 am
content: was that the 5000? nice interface.Looks like someone actually learned from their mastersThe layout, the font sizes, the proportions, the choice of colours

author: Performa01
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2018, 12:23:08 pm
content: Since I don't want to further derail this thread, I've placed a similar post under the associated topic:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/at-last-siglent_s-sds5054x-touchscreen/msg2023294/#msg2023294

author: oewean
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 11:48:39 pm
content: Tried to upload datasheet for the SDS2000X-E series, but file exceeded file size limit..If interested you can download it from:https://www.adroit.no/siglent-sds2202x-e-200mhz-2-kanals-oscilloskop.html#productattach

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 12:04:43 pm
content: All info is now available:http://www.siglent.com/ENs/pdxx.aspx?id=2644&T=2&tid=1https://www.siglentamerica.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds2000x-e/https://www.siglenteu.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds2000x-e/SDS2202X-E 200 MHz 2ch USD 619SDS2352X-E 350 MHz 2ch USD 839OptionsUSB AWGUSB WIFI16ch MSO

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 12:16:43 pm
content: Quote from: JPortici on December 10, 2018, 12:13:03 pmExactly what I've asked.You might guess by the front panel layout, one is coming.....About that, I have zip info.

author: oewean
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 01:30:54 pm
content: Been told there is not going to be a 4 channel.But who knows, if there is a demand?

author: colorado.rob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 08:59:16 pm
content: Are the MSO/LA signals available via LXI/SCPI? Is serial decode still restricted to just what is on screen? The 2000X series scope is a bit hobbled by the fact that the logic analyzer (digital signals, serial decoders) is not exposed via SCPI. And serial decode is limited to just what is on screen.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 02:18:37 am
content: Quote from: colorado.rob on December 10, 2018, 08:59:16 pmThey are in the current 2kX programming guide:https://www.siglentamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2017/10/Programming-Guide-1.pdfP58QuoteDepends on how you use it.....use the Zoom mode where you can have seconds of data stream on the main window and just a tiny portion in the Zoom window where you can still scroll to any of the packets in the main window.QuoteOnly Decode as outlined above. Currently none of the Siglent DSO's apparently are able to access Decode via SCPI.The same applies for Bode plot in the SDS1004X-E models as there is no SCPI command set to enable that.It will require firmware changes to get the SCPI command sets installed.

author: blacksheeplogic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 03:14:39 am
content: Quote from: tautech on December 10, 2018, 12:04:43 pmMaybe I'm missing it and it's in plain sight, but what is the sample rate on the digital channels?

author: colorado.rob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 03:25:04 am
content: Quote from: tautech on December 11, 2018, 02:18:37 amThanks for sending that. It has been a while since I looked for an update to the SCPI manual. I also see that I have missed a couple firmware updates in the past year.It says "D — Digital channel. Only valid for SDS1000X-E series." (Page 179, WAVEFORM command.) Yes, one can control the MSO, but the digital waveforms cannot be retrieved from a 2000X for external analysis. This means that only the 4 analog waveforms can be used in tools likesigrok-- and, as a 2000X owner, that makes me sad.But that's certainly good news for the 1000X-E users. And hopefully that means it works on the 2000X-E series as well.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 03:28:50 am
content: Quote from: blacksheeplogic on December 11, 2018, 03:14:39 amIt's in the datasheet: P3 and 14.Maximum waveform capture rate up to 1GSa/s, Record length up to 14 Mpts/CHhttps://www.siglentamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/SDS2000X-E_DataSheet_DS0102E-E01A.pdfThe 16 digital channels are provided with an external module, the same as used for SDS1004X-E models, the SLA1016 that connects into the front Sbus connector.https://www.siglentamerica.com/accessory/sla1016/

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 03:39:41 am
content: Quote from: colorado.rob on December 11, 2018, 03:25:04 amCheck:Read Waveform Data of Digital ExampleP251Will that work for you ?

author: colorado.rob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 04:47:29 am
content: Quote from: tautech on December 11, 2018, 03:39:41 amDoes that work for you on a 2000X?For mescope.write("d1: wf? dat2")data = scope.read_raw()(reading a digital channel waveform) has no obvious effect on the scope and just hangs the script, whereasscope.write("c1: wf? dat2")data = scope.read_raw()(reading an analog channel waveform) works as expected, stopping the scope and returning a chunk of binary data.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 04:53:12 am
content: Quote from: colorado.rob on December 11, 2018, 04:47:29 amSold mine.(Replacing with a SDS5kX soon)Ok thanks for that info and code, I'll look into it.

author: blacksheeplogic
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 06:26:55 am
content: Quote from: tautech on December 11, 2018, 03:28:50 amThanks you. I'm considering something like this as a second MSO.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2018, 06:58:45 am
content: Quote from: blacksheeplogic on December 11, 2018, 06:26:55 am20 days lead times means I'll have some by early Feb, let me know if you want to demo one.

author: MrW0lf
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2019, 10:42:54 pm
content: Comparing new X-E to my other scopes... 100MHz square from Leo's SMA EXT trigger 40ps pulser. There is SMA => BNC adapter which may degrade fidelity somewhat. No attenuator.SDS2352X-E 350MHz scope native 50Ω @ 2GSa/s100MHz scope 50Ω passthru @ 1GSa/s500MHz scope native 50Ω @ 2.5GSa/sMight try later with less aggressive signals and supplied probe. If someone has specific request what to test can try. No point to make review as such because it's just as other X-E's only much faster.

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2019, 12:03:06 am
content: Quote from: tautech on December 11, 2018, 04:53:12 amDo you mean DS5k from Rigol, or will there be SDS5kX soon from Siglent?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2019, 12:43:15 am
content: Quote from: pascal_sweden on January 07, 2019, 12:03:06 amhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/at-last-siglent_s-sds5054x-touchscreen/

author: MavMitchell
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2019, 05:03:49 am
content: Are you carrying nay Demo Units while you are in WA?

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2019, 05:24:07 am
content: About lacking decoding over SCPI, It exists in the 1000X-E series, just as normal is undocumented. I suspect they should work for the 2000 series. I have not fully documented most of these yet, but they do exist,Command B1:DCCN B1:DeCo_CANCommand B1:DCIC B1:DeCo_IiCCommand B1:DCLN B1:DECO_LINCommand B1:DCSP B1:DECO_SPICommand B1:DCUT B1:DECO_UARTCommand B2:DCCN B2:DECO_CANCommand B2:DCIC B2:DECO_IICCommand B2:DCLN B2:DECO_LINCommand B2:DCSP B2:DECO_SPICommand B2:DCUT B2:DECO_UARTQuery DCDI DeCo_DIgitalCommand DCPA DeCo_ParamQuery DCLR DeCo_CleaRCom / Que DCST DeCo_STatusQuery DCVL DeCo_VaLueDCVL is the one you want, as best I can see it spits out the decoded stream, I have not yet figured out the formatting yet though,Try the short commands first, some of the long commands where bugged in the 1000 series, and I expect it to be the same on the 2000

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2019, 05:36:01 am
content: Quote from: MavMitchell on January 07, 2019, 05:03:49 amWelcome to the forum.Nah, sorry on holiday here and soon to catch a bird back to NZ.Got a couple of units arriving in NZ in a few weeks so I’ll be sure to be posting something about them if they don’t end up presold.Keep an eye on MrWOlf’s investigations.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2019, 01:33:46 am
content: SDS2352X-E -3dB BW check ~405 MHzSSG3021X sourceN-BNC adapter and Siglent BNC cable.SDS2kX-E internal 50 ohm terminationCursors set on p-p @ 200 MHz---------------------------------------------------------------SDS2022X-E -3dB BW check = 250 MHz50 ohm internal termination.1V p-p @ 200 MHz from HP8654B

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2019, 08:46:29 pm
content: Defpom has a look at the 350 MHz SDS2352X-E:https://youtu.be/7zJ8X51l0Go

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 04:54:32 am
content: Firmware update for SDS2000X-E models.Version 1.1.17R67.9 MBhttps://www.siglentamerica.com/download/8436/Changelog1. Fixed the bug: If the oscilloscope is switched off when the CH1 menu is active, it remains without a menu when switching on again.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2019, 07:30:59 am
content: New SDS2022X-E, unpacked and with the new firmware.520 MHz from HP sig gen. (substantially attenuated amplitude @ some 300 MHz past rated BW)

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 13, 2019, 01:38:14 am
content: New firmware for SDS2000X-E models.Version V1.1.19R28.3MBhttps://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Oscilloscope/SDS2000X-E_1.1.19R2_EN.zipRelease notes1. Optimized communication between SDS2000X-E and SLA1016. This revision (and higher) requires the SLA1016MUST be upgraded to 8.1.16 (or higher) first. Please take a look at ‘Compatibility with SLA1016’ at the end ofthe release notes.2. Optimized Bode Plot: Accuracy and Sensitivity Improvement, New Vari-level Mode for Testing Loop Response, Miscellaneous Function and UI Improvements.3. Optimized FFT UI: Added Peaks, Markers, and search within FFT.4. Optimize self-calibration for channels.5. Optimized accessing USB drive so that when a USB drive is moved to a computer, Windows will not prompt a restoration of the USB drive.6. Optimize WIFI connection: 63 characters can now be used for a WPA2 PSK key.7. Added parity options of MARK/SPACE for UART of 9-bit Decode.8. Optimized behavior of the cursors (x-axis): Added a mode that the cursors remain at the set position on the waveform when changing time base.9. Added automatic reset to 0 for sample count for statistics after any timebase or voltage range changes.10. Fixed the bug: The audible beeper activation would affect the voltage waveform displayed for CH2.11. Fixed the bug of ROV measurement.12. Fixed the bug: Normal trigger can show more-than-one trigger event on the display at one time.13. Fixed the bug: Erratic triggering, randomly jumping between the first and the second edge of a signal.14. Fixed the bug: The acquire time of history is reset to zero if the time reach 1 hour and 11 minutes. The delta time is also wrong if the period is longer than 1 hour and 11 minutes.15. Fixed The SPI triggering issue: the 16-bit trigger wouldn't work for a gap >360 ns between the two 8-bit packets.16. Fixed the bug: Save/Recall setup of trigger and scale issue. ( SalesForce ID：P-00199)(SalesForce ID P-00200)17. Fixed the bug: Reading cursors by SCPI is not accuracy18. Fixed the bug: In fine adjust mode, some scale such as 302 mV/DIV is in the wrong position.19. Fixed the bug: LIN decoder doesn't decode frames with zero-length response.20. Fixed the bug: If the Courser Offset is not a multiple of zoom time base, the cursor will be replaced when zoomed.21. Fixed the bug: The measurements made with the cursor in Ref. Give wrong values for all the different probes ofX1.22. Fixed the bug: Measures fairs with GATE give completely random values in signals of low frequency.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 13, 2019, 10:53:40 am
content: I see many of the problems identified here in the forums have been included.

author: StasMa
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 17, 2019, 03:31:08 pm
content: yep

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 07:06:00 am
content: New firmware for SDS2000X-E models.Version： V1.1.19R58.3 MBhttps://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Oscilloscope/SDS2000X-E_1.1.19R5_EN.zipRelease notes.1. Added support for the SAG1021I USB Isolated AWG Module Hardware2. Fixed the bug: Sometimes PNSU command returns invalid value (Need referring to the latest Program Guide)3. Added 9 data bits for UART decoding4. Fixed the bug of UART decoder with some special settings5. Increased baud rate of UART trigger from 5 Mbps to 20 Mbps6. Fixed the bug: The command ‘WF? DAT2’returns error length of waveform when digital is enable7. Fixed the bug: CSV file of waveform has no indication of the trigger point in the data8. Fixed the bug: After repowering all FFT markers are on just one peak9. Fixed the bug: After repowering, signal level of CAN trigger can't be recalled10. Fixed a few SCPI Commands errors:MATH: CURSOR_VALUE?C3:INVERT_SET? is missingHISTORY_LIST? is missingDIGITAL:LOW8_SWICHT, typo in nameC5:COUPLING? typo in name11. Fixed the Bode Plot bug: Sometime there isn't enough delay after the scope switches timebase values before it tries to take a measurement12. Fixed the bug： Matlab can’ t import 14 M Matlab waveform files13. Fixed the bug：‘WF?’ command ignores the length set by ‘WFSU’ for digital

author: rea
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2021, 06:02:18 am
content: There is also firmware version 1.1.20R3 (that my SDS2000X-E came with). Its being said to be the intermediate version that was created "to optimize the internal processes" (refactoring?) without any (hmm, may be yes, may be notbug fixes/new issues. And also "... as praparations for the further improvements" was mentioned, so it could be that the new firmware for SDS2000X-E could appear at some point at the Siglent download areas.Since new devices come with it, I consider it to be stable enough for keen engineers to try it. It came from Siglent representatives, but just as a lone .ADS file, not the usual zip with changelogs.http://codelabs.ru/firmware/siglent/sds2000x-e/official/1.1.20R3/

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2021, 08:19:30 am
content: Quote from: rea on June 09, 2021, 06:02:18 amComparing with SDS2000X-E_1.1.19R2, these are the different files:Code:19/03/2021 13:50:02 82602724 [00156717-005D5F34] sds1000b.app19/08/2019 18:08:06 073A3093 [00163D5A-005E1B47] sds1000b.app17/08/2018 17:40:11 500FAC1D [00803DA3-0080BAB9] top_acq_fpga.bit30/11/2020 09:19:13 7C7B7398 [0080E942-008157E0] top_acq_fpga.bit12/08/2019 18:47:20 105E9AEF [00000069-0016158F] top_sds2000x_e_fpga.bit18/03/2021 09:00:18 0DE50569 [00000069-00153F4C] top_sds2000x_e_fpga.bit15/08/2019 11:30:21 BCA6A646 [00695A9E-006975EC] ui_data/arabic_text_info.xml25/11/2020 16:36:12 988957D4 [0068A522-0068C084] ui_data/arabic_text_info.xml22/07/2019 10:22:28 F80642D3 [00661F53-00665369] ui_data/english_help_info.xml25/11/2020 16:36:13 4188EC72 [00656356-00659735] ui_data/english_help_info.xml15/08/2019 11:30:20 A0CA22D3 [00676BDA-00678742] ui_data/english_text_info.xml25/11/2020 16:36:12 46EF2F58 [0066B604-0066D17E] ui_data/english_text_info.xml15/08/2019 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author: rea
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2021, 03:24:46 pm
content: And since it is really boring to live without SHELLCMD, here is the alternative that, I hope, will survive at least some of the future updates of Siglent firmware (and, once currently installed, it will survive all updates up to 1.1.20R3):http://codelabs.ru/firmware/siglent/sds2000x-e/php-cli/v1/

author: RoV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2021, 01:38:32 pm
content: Quote from: rea on June 09, 2021, 06:02:18 amThank you very much, rea.The update solved the ugly bug of my posthttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/sds2202x-e-fpga-bug-or-broken/msg3518718/#msg3518718.I wonder why Siglent is taking so long to put an official update on their site.

author: RoV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2021, 10:34:40 pm
content: Successfully applied hack to transform the SDS2202X-E to 2352X-E, thanks to information in the blog!I can confirm that the hack actually changes both the bandwidth and the rise time, because I measured both configurations, 200 and 350 MHz. The attached reading was obtained with a Marconi 2019A source, with level corrected with an hp power meter. Input to the scope was done using the internal 50 ohm termination:The final risetime is just below 1 ns, it was 1.2-1.5 ns before the hack. Test was done with a 45 ps rising edgeAlso the original 200 MHz probe is better than I thought, reaching well the 350 MHz with a modest attenuation. I tested it using the supplied probe-to-BNC adapter, using a T adapter and an external 50 ohm load. This is a kind of measurement not as reliable as the previous one, so uncertainty is higher.

author: RoV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2022, 10:40:15 am
content: After so many months and in the presence of bugs, the official downloadable FW release for the SDS2202X-E is still stuck at 1.1.19R5, while new models are sold with newer versions. Version 1.1.20R3 was available AT LEAST from last june and thanks to user rea I could install it on last september.But why don't they distribute updates? Perhaps tautech can help?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2022, 08:30:36 am
content: Quote from: RoV on January 09, 2022, 10:40:15 am20R3 is still the current version as I got a copy just recently.

author: RoV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2022, 09:16:55 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on January 10, 2022, 08:30:36 amThank you for your answer, tautech.Good to know that 20R3 is still the current version, but why don't they publish it? If they distribute it, it must be tested and official.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2022, 11:43:58 pm
content: Quote from: RoV on January 10, 2022, 09:16:55 pmProbably as they're still working on it as I believe R3 was built to fix this issue:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/sds2202x-e-calibrate-signal-problems-on-ch1/It seems a firmware upgrade put the scope out of whack although I have not experienced in any of the firmware installs we often do.

author: RoV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2022, 10:23:28 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on January 10, 2022, 11:43:58 pmThe issue you refer to is quite recent (Jan 2022), while 20R3 was mentioned for the first time by user rea in this message:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-e/msg3584977/#msg3584977, so it dates back at least to June 2021. According to rea it was installed by the factory in his new scope, so it was already used in production, but not distributed as a firmware upgrade (and still not today). I can also confirm that it solved the issuehttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/sds2202x-e-fpga-bug-or-broken/msg3518718/#msg3518718that I posted in March 2021.In the download section of I still see:

author: FrancisM
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2022, 08:52:04 am
content: Hi RoV,I wouldn't worry too much.I guess that our chinese friends are working hard on a major fw release wich may well surprise us.I hope you enjoy your "liberated" scope.All the best,Francis

author: RoV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2022, 08:59:08 pm
content: Quote from: RoV on September 25, 2021, 10:34:40 pmAfter PM from one user, I realized that a detailed upgrade procedure wasn't available. So I am attaching a suitable Python 3 script, containing instructions.I used only '300' option.

author: Rapto
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 25, 2022, 10:43:24 am
content: Quote from: RoV on July 18, 2022, 08:59:08 pmHi, thanks for the script.So you used the "300M" option to get the upgrade to 2352X-E with 350MHz bandwidth?If possible, could you check what your scope is displaying as "Product Type" in (press Utility button) > "System Status" menu after applying this patch?What is the model reported by*IDN?SCPI command?Thank you!

author: RoV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 25, 2022, 09:40:20 pm
content: Quote from: Rapto on August 25, 2022, 10:43:24 amYes, 300M.See attachments

author: Rapto
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 26, 2022, 03:27:22 pm
content: Thank you, that's very helpful. I made a silly mistake of using the code for "350M"and now the scope has a blank field in place of its Product Type. Huh.... I wonder if it's possible to remove a license code...

author: RoV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2022, 07:21:02 pm
content: Quote from: Rapto on August 26, 2022, 03:27:22 pmNo need, just insert the correct code. Only one remains enabled.

author: Rapto
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 26, 2022, 08:52:21 pm
content: Thank you very much!Submitting a new code indeed worked and now my scope also reports SDS2352X-E - the upgrade seems to be successful.For potential future readers of this thread, my config was:Software Version: 1.1.19 R5Uboot-OS version: 2.1FPGA Version: 2019-08-12Hardware version: 00-01

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2022, 09:03:31 am
content: Spotted an update for these today.....finally the mystical version 20R3 !https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Oscilloscope/SDS2000X-E_V1.1.20R3_EN.zip8.4MBThe release notes only mention compatibility for later HW versions.

author: MPX
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 01, 2022, 11:48:39 am
content: 2202>2352Software Version 1.1.20R3UBoot-OS Version 2.1FPGA Version 2021-03-17Hardware Version 08-01

author: RoV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2022, 08:03:58 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on September 30, 2022, 09:03:31 amI saw it a couple weeks ago. Downloaded, it is binary identical to the unofficial 20R3 found one year ago thanks to user rea here on eevblog.Not really HW compatibility only: it has several improvements respect to 19R5. In particular, it solved a problem I had (see my post of sep 25 in this thread).

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2024, 09:54:28 am
content: New firmware for SDS2000X-E modelsVersion： V1.1.20R67.5 MBhttps://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Oscilloscope/SDS2000X-E_V1.1.20R6_EN_.zipRelease notesFixed the bug: The average of measurement is mistake for 35M pointsOptimized the time of auto-setup