Upgrade from my Rigol DS1052E ? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: skibum
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 31, 2017, 01:34:56 pm
content: Hi,I am looking for something a bit better, 2 channels is fine and I would like a wave form generator built in.I am looking at:Keysight DSOX1102G (a bit pricey for me)Siglent SDS1202X+Hantek DSO4202CAnything else I should be looking at?The R&S RTB2002 is tempting but it is just out of my budget.Thanks!

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2017, 03:59:43 pm
content: You could add the GW Instek MSO2000AE series to the list.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2017, 08:06:18 pm
content: Quote from: skibum on May 31, 2017, 01:34:56 pmWelcome to the forum.QuoteReally why ?Is room a constraint or do you need to lug it around ?QuoteWhile these do have a FG inbuilt they also have MSO capability so you're paying for that whether you need it or not.For no more than the cost of 1202X+ the new 200 MHz 1202X-Eanda 2 channel AWG can be had, is that not worth thinking about ?

author: skibum
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 06:48:59 am
content: Space is a real problem for me, so not having to have both a scope and a AWG on my work bench would be nice.I did not know about the 200 MHz 1202X-E. Looks really good for that price!

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 07:40:35 am
content: Quote from: skibum on June 01, 2017, 06:48:59 amIt's smaller in form factor than the 1000X and + models with a smaller display too; 7" as opposed to 8" for 1kX.The other thing missing is a 50input but you can't have everything at the X-E price.Have a hunt in the forum and online, there's a few threads and vids around on the X-E now.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 04:02:51 pm
content: Quote from: skibum on June 01, 2017, 06:48:59 amBut beware of the bugs! You get what you pay for. If you have the money to spend then it may be worthwhile to take a few steps up the ladder and get a scope which works.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 04:09:43 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on June 01, 2017, 04:02:51 pmIt's only a month or so old. I'm sure there will be a firmware update real soon.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 04:13:44 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 01, 2017, 04:09:43 pmIt is way older than that. Dave has had the pre-release model for a long time. Can I cut off your fingers if that update doesn't fix all the bugs and introduces new problems?Buying a scope and praying an update fixes the problems it has is a very bad idea. Your money is in the manufacturer's pockets and there is no obligation at all to make a product work right.

author: Pitrsek
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 05:33:48 pm
content: Beware of integrated Wgen. If you plan to use it a lot, you might really hate the UI... For (very)occasional use it's probably.If you have problems accommodating small benchtom WG, wouldn't it better to put funds towards improving/expanding your workplace?For the price of new scopes you can get second hand WG and make some shelves, better storage system, table etc.Quote from: nctnico on May 31, 2017, 03:59:43 pmSince I had no problems with previous GW instek equipment and liked their current offering, I had GW Instek scope(1054b) on my short list for a home scope. The problem is EU prices are way higher than US prices. I can import it, pay for shipping from us+tax, and still save cca 120eur compared to local prices. Since all of the stuff is manufactured somewhere in Asia, there is really no reason why the stuff should not cost roughly the same. Apart that someone at GW Instek tough that they can get away with it...I've exchanged few very nice emails about it with local distributor and European sales, but they couldn't really do anything about it. I decided against importing it from US, I do not want to support company with such unfair attitude to their customers(to put it very politely). They seem to make nice stuff, If the price was comparable, I would have bought scope from them. I just don't enjoy being mocked around.

author: TurboTom
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 05:44:02 pm
content: What about the DS2072A-S currently offered on the european Rigol clearance sales page:https://www.rigol.eu/clearance/?It's a mature product, can be hacked to 300MHz and permits direct copying of scope traces to the arbitrary generator. It's also well represented throughout the forum and many owners will be able to provide assistance in case you've got questions.Well, just my two euro cents...Cheers,Thomas

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 06:14:19 pm
content: An external wavegen is always going to be a better option. If you haven't got any space then get some bits of wood and stack them up.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2017, 06:17:16 pm
content: Quote from: Pitrsek on June 01, 2017, 05:33:48 pmI think the US dealers are somehow satisfied with a lower margin due to competition and might be getting bigger discounts due to higher volume. There is not much you can do about that.

author: skibum
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 05, 2017, 06:20:47 am
content: Thanks for all the input!I think the 200 MHz 1202X-E along with an separate AWG is a good option for me. I think I will be using the AWG quite a bit.Now to figure out which AWG to get!

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2017, 08:16:49 am
content: Forum fav ATM is SDG2042X but if you can't stretch that far SDG1032X or SDG1000 models are OK too.1032X is very similar to 2042X and the 1k series are older.There's threads on each of these on the forum.Here's the AWG overview page:http://www.siglenteu.com/pd.aspx?tid=16&T=1