IBM Partners with Arrow & Indiegogo For IoT Orgy - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2017, 10:50:11 pm
content: Oh dear

author: raptor1956
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 07:08:51 am
content: Beyond the IoT being hijacked by hackers and forming an army of bots for evil purposes what's not to love about IoT crap?Dave made very little comment at all and you lose your mind complaining about it. Say, are you part of the IoT nonsense?Ten posts and this is the best you got?Brian

author: cgroen
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 07:25:21 am
content: Me thinks that "stargonjie" is someone else (as he just registered today)Apart from that, totally agree with Dave on his comment!

author: MarkS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 08:24:13 am
content: IoT needs to die a quick and painful death.

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 01:25:51 pm
content: Another IBM bloated advert with all gloss, little substance. Their "deep technical skill" is long gone. IBM today is mostly staffed by people with shallow technical skill and minimal experience. I give IBM five years before it is carved up and sold off, or just collapse under its own obesity.

author: Vtile
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 05:00:36 pm
content: But what is this IoT. I have now suffered by reading this idiocity for almost 10 years and yet not seen reasonable revolution.Word IoT makes me vomit a little everytime.

author: MarkS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 05:45:52 pm
content: Quote from: Vtile on February 17, 2017, 05:00:36 pmIt's a fad. Do you really need your toaster alerting you that your toast has popped up via your smart phone? Do toasters now come with a silent pop up feature?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 07:56:24 pm
content: Saw a great tweet the other dayQuote

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 08:23:34 pm
content: IOT, we could do this with a dumb switch, that lasts for decades, uses no power in the off state, has almost zero loss in the on state, and which most users are able to use. Now we are using considerable standby power, it is unreliable, riddled with bugs ( sorry, undocumented features), is laggy, requires a whole massive infrastructure in addition to the regular power network, only works with our proprietary infrastructure, is only supported for 3 weeks after launch ( bugfixes, who needs them, we have ver 999 available now, who cares about older ones, you need the bright shiny new hotness) and is almost guaranteed to never be working correctly after a year.

author: LazyJack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 08:45:56 pm
content: IBM is not going to make IoT devices. It is pitching their BlueMix cloud service and all that comes with that, like Watson. Which is actually works quite fine, you can really quickly whip up some neat applications with RPis, Arduinos, and whatever.True, the security of the device is entirely up to whoever creates them. Which is sad, given that most oldschool embedded developers and just about any random webdeveloper come RPi developer has no idea about security.

author: rrinker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 09:32:42 pm
content: What's stupid about the whole thing is there is ZERO reason every little device needs direct internet access. You can get the same functionality by having all these gizmos and gadgets communicate inside your house with a private network and communicate to the outside world through a single, secured gateway. You can still check the temperature of your freezer from work, or the water level in your water cooler in the middle of the supermarket, but the individual devices would be safe from casual hacking. Just the hub device would need any serious security protection, which is no big deal to implement because you wouldn't be trying to run a real time intrusion detection routing on an 8 pin microcontroller.

author: Vtile
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 10:57:35 pm
content: Quote from: rrinker on February 17, 2017, 09:32:42 pmThat is called a Secure(ish) Network of Things, a SNoT for short. The marketing department might have a hard time with that.New king have arisen, hail to the SNoT!

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2017, 07:47:10 pm
content: Internet of Trash(TM).Don't get me wrong I think the concept is neat, it's just implemented so poorly. There's zero reason why stuff like this needs to even be on the internet, it should all run locally.

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2017, 08:02:21 pm
content: Most IoT devices are things NOBODY needs. Like a camera in your fridge?The few devices that are actually decent ideas like the nest thermometer can be rigged cheaper, easier, and better through homebrew.

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2017, 08:03:11 pm
content: Genuinely don't get it, I can see potential for my washing machine to tell me it's finished its load (fnarr) but it does that by beeping at me, the toaster, I can tell that's done because there's toast, my kettle won't make tea without further interaction and if I don't clean it often enough, my fridge is probably sentient enough already without adding an internet connection.However, I am loving the availability of cheap, TCP/IP, WiFi enabled modules which are hitting the market and allowing me to build 'weird' stuff to tinker with...

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 08:15:06 pm
content: That's a good point, have not looked into it much myself but I imagine this is creating a decent market for cheaper Ethernet and Wifi modules that can be used with our own projects.Been wanting to revamp my home automation and make it more modular so such modules could come in handy. Perhaps even make it as a product I can sell later on. That opens up a whole can of worms though as you need to get it ULC/CSA approved etc so chances are I'd just sell the bare circuit boards as a "kit" rather than a completed product.

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 08:27:33 pm
content: Definitely jump on the ESP8266 and tinker, they take a bit of setting up and getting used to at first (give it a couple of hours and some reading) but they're dirt cheap if you're happy to buy from China, they're not much more expensive if you buy from Sparkfun etc. and there's a thriving hacker community who are doing some impressive things with them.