BwE (Better Way Electronics) Software and Louis Rossmann - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 11, 2025, 01:23:04 pm
content: The guy from BwE in Australia tried to take down Louis Rossmanns video exposing him, and Youtube just sided with him about it potentially being defmanation, so Youtube have removed access to the video in Australia.Plus there is duscussion on Louis's Youtube community page:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl2mFZoRqjw_ELax4Yisf6w/community?lb=UgkxMCaLXJgelUirNcmr97P2-0LT2FDGrTEn

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 11, 2025, 01:34:55 pm
content: Louis needs to switch to decaf...

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 11, 2025, 11:05:25 pm
content: His side of the story:https://x.com/BwE_Dev/status/1919918597020975585If it was me, my first sentence would be that all the claims are categorically untrue.Quote

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 11, 2025, 11:11:42 pm
content: Update:https://x.com/BwE_Dev/status/1921608607952715858QuoteQuote

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 12, 2025, 01:15:51 am
content: And BwE has protected his tweets.He was replying to me on X fine just a hour ago.Sound like he wants the whole thing to just go away.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 03:10:30 am
content: OMG, plot twist of the century

author: ledtester
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 03:52:26 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 12, 2025, 03:10:30 amWowzers!

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 04:09:09 am
content: Now there's a proper doxxing!How much does this software cost anyway?

author: abeyer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 05:33:11 am
content: Those who live in glass houses...Seemed like he had a pretty decent thing going and had probably gotten to a point where no one knew anymore, and wanted to piss it away getting in an internet slap fight he couldn't win.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 12, 2025, 07:23:14 am
content: Aaaaand it's gone.

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 08:05:45 am
content: Well, that was certainly an interesting afternoon.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 09:34:02 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 11, 2025, 01:23:04 pmMeh, this is a bit strange for me. The guy probably wrote some code in his spare time, and offered it for sale, to make some beer money. The software got blown up, and too many customers started to use it.He didn't grow his operation with the software, so didn't have customer support, gave his personal phone as contact... Didn't do the taxes well.Sprinkle in some personal problems or mild case of paranoia (over other steeling your software) which actually might be rooted in reality. I mean there was some sort of reverse engineering of his software. Meanwhile you constantly fear that Sony might shut down your entire business with one letter or software update.And because of Louis's reaction now the entire internet seems to bully the guy without knowing him. DDosing his website or whatever.At least it's my theory. You shouldn't hold someone's personal project to the same standard as a large corporation, with lawyers and management bullying the customers.So probably not this.

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 09:40:29 am
content: Quote from: tszaboo on May 12, 2025, 09:34:02 amProbably not, but if I bought software that broke because the vendor broke it (revoked a license) without cause, I'd be pretty pissed off too. The fact he was a prick to his customers didn't help.If I paid for something with the caveat of "if it breaks you get to keep both pieces" then it's a bit of pot luck, but if it breaks because the vendor deliberately broke it then it's war.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 09:43:32 am
content: After today's announcement by Louis Rossmann, it seems like Tahiraj is going to-ground in a big way. We might be just discovering the tip of an iceberg.Quote from: EEVblog on May 12, 2025, 01:15:51 amI probably would too if I was on parole for very serious offences and had something to hide. The community has a way of discovering things.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 09:52:00 am
content: Also, if you want a laugh, these are his terms and conditions:https://web.archive.org/web/20250511134751/https://www.betterwayelectronics.com.au/termsSome of them are just outright bullshit and I dare say wouldn't be considered a "fair" contract if contested in court.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 10:55:46 am
content: Quote from: tszaboo on May 12, 2025, 09:34:02 amConsidering how he treated underage girls and bragged about destroying their lives as a convicted sexual predator, it looks like he was enjoining fucking with his customers.https://www7.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/qld/QCA/2014/353.htmlQuote

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 12, 2025, 10:58:35 am
content: Quote from: BradC on May 12, 2025, 09:40:29 amYep. Remotely revoking access to software people have paid for is beyond the pale. War indeed.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 11:01:27 am
content: Quote from: wraper on May 12, 2025, 10:55:46 amThat's something I did not hear in any part of the videos I watched. I didn't watch every content about this.Even if it's true, I don't condone vigilantism.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 11:02:48 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on May 12, 2025, 09:43:32 amYes, and it's not hard find this info, you just had to give people a reason to go snooping and it's all over.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 11:06:02 am
content: Quote from: tszaboo on May 12, 2025, 11:01:27 amIt's in Louis' latest video.And it's true, as he also hit the latest video with a privacy complaint on the section time revealing the old name, thus legally confirming it's him.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 11:13:00 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 12, 2025, 11:06:02 amI don't debate that. I only watched it half way before going to work.Louis doesn't really post a table of contents for his videos now, does he?

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 11:19:49 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 12, 2025, 10:58:35 amNot just that but one of his "Terms" is that users must not "use or attempt to use old versions of software".

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 12, 2025, 11:23:36 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on May 12, 2025, 11:19:49 amAchievement Unlocked: Control freak

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 11:50:30 am
content: I started following this with a certain skepticism, but the evidence now in the public eye takes it to the very next level.This guy is someone that should be kept away from a computer. Very smart, but unfortunately very mentally damaged.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 12:10:13 pm
content: The latest privacy complaint:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl2mFZoRqjw_ELax4Yisf6w/community?lb=UgkxvoKF5XoO7pgYEP6Lfd-T1hD-6Hlwtdlt

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 12:23:31 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 12, 2025, 12:10:13 pmThe Australian Companies register doesn't forget. I have to say as far as an investigative journalist goes, Louis used all the publicly available tools to stitch it together and did a bang up job. There is absolutely nothing there that couldn't be put together by anyone with an interest in the subject matter.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 01:03:45 pm
content: Quote from: rsjsouza on May 12, 2025, 11:50:30 amThat raises an interesting point. I wonder if his parole had any conditions in that regard?If not, then I think it should have, given how the crime was done.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 12, 2025, 09:27:03 pm
content: https://web.archive.org/web/20250511090731/https://www.betterwayelectronics.com.au/#uartsysconhttps://web.archive.org/web/20250409113508/https://betterwayelectronics.com.au/codescompared/Anyone who actually repairs PS4 and PS5's have an opinion on the tech?I don't know how you'd make money on this kind of stuff unless its selling a hardware tool, or youtube views, etc.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 13, 2025, 02:47:04 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 12, 2025, 01:03:45 pmThat's a really good point.Also, if anyone wants some light reading, the court citation is interesting:https://www7.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/qld/QCA/2014/353.htmlHe definitely tries to use the defence of "it wasn't me, I don't know computers, I must have been hacked".

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 13, 2025, 10:56:48 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on May 13, 2025, 02:47:04 amThe first one that I remember where the person was prevented from using electronics was the highly publicized Kevin Mitnick case in the 1990s, although Wikipedia shows a very long list of convicted people much prior to that.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 13, 2025, 10:05:36 pm
content: After watching the rossman vid, TLDR: software would check what else was running on users system, if seller was upset with anything, your license could be revoked.thecoder seems to be working on an alternate version:https://www.youtube.com/c/thecod3rdonation funded development.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 13, 2025, 10:46:50 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on May 13, 2025, 10:05:36 pmApparently he would also revoke the license if you run his spyware on a dedicated computer with nothing else installed because "you are hiding something".

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 13, 2025, 11:47:25 pm
content: BwE is totally fucked. This had gone to wider audience

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 14, 2025, 12:07:26 am
content: New Louis video:

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 14, 2025, 07:06:59 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on May 13, 2025, 02:47:04 amI'm wondering, someone gets 12 years in jail for installing spyware on someones computer that takes control of their webcam, which results in all the unspeakable things they are jailed for.Then gets out of jail, changes their name, writes and sells software that clearly has some sort of spyware capability.Wouldn't this be grounds for another police investigation?

author: darkspr1te
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 14, 2025, 07:33:18 am
content: Does anyone have a copy of this so called spyware ? you know, for research purposes

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2025, 05:14:03 am
content: The claimed purpose of the software could possibly be just a cover for spying for and collecting personal information, bank account information, social media accounts information that could be mapped to the user's social media activity, shopping information, electronic copies of IDs, etc. This information then could be sold or used for malicious purposes. This would explain the owner's attention for his software to be only used on active machines and not on standalones where the user would not store such information, not login to online accounts, etc. Would also explain the owner's bizarre ask for the government ID. We really do not know much what that guy was up to in reality.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 16, 2025, 02:14:03 am
content: It's spreading further.penguinz0 is a huge channel.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 05:01:49 am
content: Quote from: Bud on May 15, 2025, 05:14:03 amThat is what struck me as really whacked--specialized diagnostic software is exactly the sort of thing you'd run on a standalone system, for me that's typically an old laptop. My best guess is that this guy was and still is a cybercriminal with some serious personality issues.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 08:20:07 am
content: How long before someone reverses his software to expose exactly what it was looking at in customers' PCs..?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 12:48:06 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on May 16, 2025, 08:20:07 amI was able to capture his pinned tweet on X before he removed his account, automatically date and time stamped in the filename.it's interesting to note that he doesn't deny anything, he just says there is no evidence of various spying and hacks etc.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 02:14:47 pm
content: If an application requires a sizeable CPU resourse, that icreases power consumption and the fan may spin faster to provide adequate cooling. What is wrong with that?

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 02:33:03 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 16, 2025, 12:48:06 pmhe claims less than 35 banned and at the same time claim thousands of people trying to hack his software and deny it when they are banned ...

author: Refrigerator
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 04:59:19 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on May 16, 2025, 08:20:07 amYeah i was wondering the same. How long before his software gets the bajezus cracked and pirated out of it?Or just reverse engineered and decompiled to see what's hidden inside.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 09:55:36 pm
content: Quote from: langwadt on May 16, 2025, 02:33:03 pmI guess 35 would be out of the number of people that actually purchased the software."Thousands of people hacking" can be an IP log of attempts to connect to his site, from people that did not register or pay for the software, trying to get around the license fee. Presumably bans the IP or similar.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 10:10:41 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on May 16, 2025, 02:14:47 pmAnd how much CPU power does it take to talk to a microcontroller over a UART, exactly?

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 10:41:41 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on May 16, 2025, 10:10:41 pmdepends on how dumb the code was written (or how much spyware it is also running )

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 16, 2025, 11:01:28 pm
content: Quote from: langwadt on May 16, 2025, 10:41:41 pmDepends if it does any cryptography. Also most of such tools do at least partial cryptography on server side to make software hacking impossible.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2025, 01:52:10 am
content: Quote from: wraper on May 16, 2025, 11:01:28 pmIf a web browser doing cryptography and rendering complex pages doesn't get a CPU warm, a tool to decode error codes and read basic data over a UART shouldn't. I would have questions myself if it did on anything except the trashiest laptop.

author: graybeard
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timestamp: May 17, 2025, 07:55:52 am
content: Google AI OverviewLearn moreIt appears you're asking about "Better Way Electronics". Here's a breakdown of what the search results suggest:1. What is Better Way Electronics?Better Way Electronics (BWE) is (or was) an Australian company founded in 2018, focused on technology repair.They were known for their diagnostic software used by repair shops and individuals.However, they have faced significant controversy and are currently under investigation.2. Current Status:The Better Way Electronics website states the business is closed pending a police investigation into attacks on their servers.3. Controversy and Issues:Louis Rossmann, a well-known figure in the electronics repair community, has been highly critical of BWE, according to Reddit users.Rossmann raised concerns about BWE's software, including data collection practices and alleged unfair banning of users.He has also publicly criticized the owner's past.4. User Feedback:Online discussions and forums contain negative feedback about BWE's software and customer service.Some users report being banned from the software without explanation and without receiving refunds.There are also claims of aggressive or unhelpful responses from BWE when users sought support.It's worth noting that some of these claims are disputed and are part of an ongoing public debate.In Conclusion:Based on the available information, it appears that Better Way Electronics is a company with a controversial history. They are currently closed, and potential customers should be aware of the numerous negative reports surrounding their software and customer service.

author: ledtester
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2025, 08:44:43 am
content: I just asked Chat-GPT about the company and it didn't mention Louis Rossman or the customer complaints or the fact that the company is not open.I guess this just shows how quickly Google trains its AI with data from Youtube.fwiw, here's the session (no need to log into Chat-GPT):https://chatgpt.com/share/68284c97-80d0-8013-b1e2-c1687e210767

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2025, 08:47:43 am
content: Quote from: ledtester on May 17, 2025, 08:44:43 amAnd who knows what it will say tomorrow. Maybe something about white supremacy?"Students of Soviet history know how difficult it it to foretell the past".

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2025, 03:06:32 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on May 16, 2025, 10:10:41 pmNot sure what UART has to do with scanning the user system and injecting itself into monitoring the processes.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2025, 02:00:32 am
content: Quote from: Bud on May 17, 2025, 03:06:32 pm.. The actual intended purpose of the software.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 18, 2025, 03:06:49 am
content: Quote from: ledtester on May 17, 2025, 08:44:43 amGrok is way better for current stuff.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 18, 2025, 03:19:29 am
content: With Louis asking for the guy to show his ID, I'm not sure that's a slam dunk, as surely if he legally changed his name as implied by the ABN, all hid ID and bank account etc would show this new name, and he would have destroyed all his old ID's, right?

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2025, 03:34:30 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 18, 2025, 03:19:29 amIt would confirm that he's Louie Tahiri, previously known as Luan Tahiraj. If he's got valid ID indicating he's Louie Someotherguy..I doubt there are many Louie Tahiri's with software development expertise in the same postcode.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2025, 04:49:48 am
content: Why he was allowed to change name in the first place ...

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2025, 05:42:21 am
content: Quote from: Bud on May 18, 2025, 04:49:48 amWhy not? Anyone can legally change their name here.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 18, 2025, 07:16:02 am
content: Quote from: BradC on May 18, 2025, 05:42:21 amNot if you are convicted child sex offender, conditions apply based on your state.Grok said this:QuoteGrok also said 10 years for first time offenders. So presumably no restrictions after 10 years after conviction.

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2025, 09:38:26 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 18, 2025, 07:16:02 amI don't see anything there that says they can't do it. It all says they need to apply and be granted permission with the purpose of ensuring the authorities can monitor the person. There's does not appear to be any requirement over and above that. He could have applied, met all the criteria and been granted a name change 25 seconds after walking out of prison. We don't know.There does not appear to be anything that says they can't do it, only there are additional hurdles to jump.

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 18, 2025, 10:47:06 am
content: Quote from: BradC on May 18, 2025, 09:38:26 amCorrect, that's why I said conditions apply.

author: nctnico
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timestamp: May 18, 2025, 05:27:49 pm
content: What a sh!tshow!Quote from: graybeard on May 17, 2025, 07:52:00 amLouis is right on the money in this video. There is no debate the software is great and useful. Unfortunately the creator has his head so far up his ass he thinks he can see daylight. I've come across such people myself. The trick is to avoid doing business with such people. And the sex offense stuff is just utterly, utterly sickening. Suffice to say I hope Louis' funding towards open source software results in a very good (better) alternative.

author: wraper
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timestamp: May 18, 2025, 08:04:23 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 18, 2025, 07:16:02 amWhich is about the time when he changed his name.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2025, 08:08:32 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 18, 2025, 03:06:49 am... Once you skip past the genocide stuffhttps://gizmodo.com/grok-ai-is-replying-to-random-tweets-with-information-about-white-genocide-2000602243https://slate.com/technology/2025/05/elon-musk-grok-chatbot-glitch-south-africa-white-genocide.html(many other refs on searching)... And then the holocaust denialhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/grok-pivots-from-white-genocide-to-being-skeptical-about-the-holocaust/ar-AA1EVM4SandBackground: Musk was raised in South Africa, and his wackypedia entry mentions his forebears' views and how they influenced Musk. Not pretty.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2025, 08:15:57 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 18, 2025, 07:16:02 amGrok says lots of things, based on what it creators used as training material.Some of the things will, statistically, be valid.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 19, 2025, 12:32:43 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on May 18, 2025, 05:27:49 pmBwE is shut down now, so presumably you can't even get the software any more?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2025, 08:56:43 am
content: Community post from Louis :Quote

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 23, 2025, 11:51:50 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on May 23, 2025, 08:56:43 amI've heard it's going to be an A Current Affair special. The final boss of the Streisand Effect

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: May 25, 2025, 11:11:45 am
content: The saga continues!The Australian government have hidden his ABN details.

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 11:40:15 am
content: Holy shit. I'd say I can't believe it, but unfortunately I can believe it.I wonder who he has photos of?

author: graybeard
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 12:07:56 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 25, 2025, 11:11:45 amIt seems the Australian government wants to protect pedophiles.

author: ledtester
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 03:02:10 pm
content: It seems you can request for your ABN to be made private:https://www.abr.gov.au/business-super-funds-charities/applying-abn/your-business-information-abr/request-non-disclosure-abn-details#:~:text=If%20you%20are%20an%20individual,process%20your%20non%2Ddisclosure%20request.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 03:06:51 pm
content: Quote from: graybeard on May 25, 2025, 12:07:56 pmIt seems you want to leap to conclusions to support an agenda of some sort, perhaps anti-government or against the notion of innocent until proven guilty.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 03:15:44 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on May 25, 2025, 03:06:51 pmHe's a convicted pedophile.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 03:22:17 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on May 25, 2025, 03:15:44 pmAn individual by that name is a convicted pedophile. Allegedly, this ABN belongs to that individual, and also allegedly is the individual behind BwE.Try again once you can tell the difference between circumstantial evidence and proven identity.QuoteEven alleged pedophiles and their families have rights.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 03:29:01 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on May 25, 2025, 03:22:17 pmIf it wasn't him, he would refute that, which he didn't do even once. All he did was trying to take down the videos on bogus privacy claims, resulting in opposite effect. Nobody would even know who he is if not for his own actions inciting people to dig deeper. Also there are a few people who met him personally and confirmed he's the same person who's photo was in the news when he was convicted.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 03:35:47 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on May 25, 2025, 03:29:01 pmGreat. None of that matters.The government has a mechanism in place to protect personal information of people who may be exposed to danger. Like, say, someone accused of being a pedophile - because people may try and cause them or those around them harm, even if they are not, in fact, guilty of anything. This mechanism does not and cannot rely on the assured innocence of the party.As much as I agree the accumulated evidence and behaviour are quite damning, this sort of thing is for the courts to decide, not the internet, and has nothing to do with the government wanting to protect pedophiles - merely them wanting to protectpeople.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 03:55:27 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on May 25, 2025, 03:35:47 pmWhile I agree that he has procedural rights no matter what he has done and also that he should be protected from actual vigilante justice, I disagree that public discourse has no role--if fact, however flawed public outcry may be, I see it as the final safety check on miscarriages of justice. I've seen plenty of cases and policies that "encourage" efforts to reform criminals without regard to common sense or collateral damage. These efforts commonly include mechanisms to allow criminals to either hide their criminal history or have specific legal protection against discrimination because of it. These aren't necessarily bad ideas, but when applied to people who have committed very serious crimes or are repeating their crimes in some way it becomes clear that the reformers are willing to sacrifice a few innocents to their cause. Public outrage and political consequences are the final safeguards against those that would provide parole to monsters. Here in the US, the crimes that this guy was originally convicted of would result in lifetime registration (with public access) and supervision. I'm not sure how his current behavior would be viewed by parole/probation agents; I suspect they wouldn't see it as criminal or to be connected to the original crimes.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 04:02:23 pm
content: Quote from: bdunham7 on May 25, 2025, 03:55:27 pmIn context, 'this sort of thing' means determining whether or not to suppress the information. It is not up to us, or those making the first review of the request, to determine the innocence or guilt of the subject before applying these measures. It's entirely possible they undertook such an act as part of an ongoing investigation, in which the public are not generally invited to pry, judge, or lynch.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 05:01:10 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on May 25, 2025, 04:02:23 pmI understand the logic, but often some publicity causes other victims to come forward. I don't think having his ABN really serves that purpose though. It's going to be a while before we see how this all turns out, but I wouldn't be shocked to find out that abusing his customers isn't the only thing he's been up to.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2025, 05:21:19 pm
content: Without wishing to comment on this case, protection is not simple.One UK example is that a quarter of a century ago vigilantes forced a paedophile to flee her(!) home. Except she lwasn't a paedophile; she was apaediatrician.Yes, the cretinous mob couldn't confused the term for a childrens' doctor with a child molestor.Procedures have to be written with such things mind. Unless you are aware of the bizarre arcane issues, the procedures canappearto be wrongheaded.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 26, 2025, 12:35:27 am
content: Quote from: bdunham7 on May 25, 2025, 03:55:27 pmIn this particular case public scrutiny it's very relevant because he was convicted for usinghacking toolsto do those unspeakable things.To then, after release, go on to producing software that reportedly (and admittedly) contains what is essentially remote monitoring tools (I'll refrain from using the word hacking here), this obviously raises legitimate and justified public concern.If his business was totally unrelated to the original conviction then one could at least justifiably try and argue that it's not fair to bring up the original conviction. But it is totally related, in a creepy way.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 26, 2025, 12:38:02 am
content: Quote from: bdunham7 on May 25, 2025, 05:01:10 pmWell, we might not have to wait long, Australia's biggest expose TV program is working on this story and asking for people to come forward.

author: Refrigerator
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2025, 05:15:40 am
content: Quote from: ledtester on May 25, 2025, 03:02:10 pmMakes perfect sense, you wouldn't want what is basically your tracking number to be out there in the public.Sometimes for the exact reasons that got BWE into all this mess.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 26, 2025, 08:36:16 am
content: Quote from: Refrigerator on May 26, 2025, 05:15:40 amYou trade under that ABN number, it's an AustralianBusinessNumber and it must be put on all business invoices etc.Seems like you need to give a very good reason for them to hide it.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2025, 12:42:16 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 26, 2025, 12:38:02 amAny chance it can be viewed online somehow once it has 'aired'?

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2025, 01:40:31 pm
content: Quotemaybe dave could host a livestream

author: abeyer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2025, 06:47:02 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 26, 2025, 08:36:16 amSeems like "I poked Louis Rossmann with a pointy stick" is good enough.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2025, 08:03:32 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 26, 2025, 12:38:02 amWell I guess this dude has discovered the thermonuclear version of the Streisand effect.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 27, 2025, 12:20:42 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on May 26, 2025, 12:42:16 pmYes, it should be on the 9now streaming platform once it's aired.https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affairAlthough they don't always go through with all the programs they work on.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 28, 2025, 02:24:02 am
content: Quote from: darkspr1te on May 14, 2025, 07:33:18 amhttps://web.archive.org/web/20250408031947/https://www.betterwayelectronics.com.au/#softwareThe password to extract the archives is "BwE"

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 28, 2025, 02:26:06 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 27, 2025, 12:20:42 amThey also post some stories to Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/@ACurrentAffair9/videos

author: Refrigerator
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2025, 05:08:04 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 26, 2025, 08:36:16 amMy bad, i thought it was like a personal number, not a business one.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 28, 2025, 07:18:27 am
content: Quote from: Refrigerator on May 28, 2025, 05:08:04 amIn Australia, most people will have a TFN (Tax File Number). It's kind of like your Social Security Number in the US. It's used to report your personal income, superannuation and other things by your employer and link it to you. It's also used to file taxes and so on...An ABN (Australian Business Number) is a registration made by a business entity. That entity can exist in a number of ways, for example, a sole trader. Regardless, if you're conducting a business in Australia, you must have an ABN. There is also an ACN (Australian Company Number), but only "companies" get those (not every business is a company). Both numbers are used by different government organisations to monitor activities in relation to businesses/companies.It gets a little complicated, but none of this information is a secret. Even knowing someones TFN isn't necessarily going to be fraught with identity fraud. They are all just identifiers to link back to a particular person/entity/director etc...

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2025, 11:25:58 pm
content: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-20/youtuber-louis-rossmann-takes-on-better-way-electronics/105532410

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 20, 2025, 04:14:21 am
content: Also now in the ABC's Background Briefing "Beef" podcast series:https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/backgroundbriefing/youtube-detectives-uncover-playstation-guru-s-shocking-secret/105499212