Some people do not have any respect for electronics. - Page 1
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author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 08:33:59 pm
content: I just came upon this video via cnet

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 08:51:38 pm
content: Yeah, that guy is quite the idiot.Not only is he unable to take a mild tantrum from his daughter without blowing a fuse, he then goes public with it on the internet and shows the whole world what a small dick he's got.

author: timorousme
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:10:17 pm
content: I would have easily bought that computer from him for the price of the bullets and $130 software.

author: jasonh
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:10:40 pm
content: I guess sometimes it take a little bit of money to get your kids in line.When my kids are a bit older I my find myself thinking about the same thing. I am sure I will at least be thinking about it!

author: sacherjj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:17:52 pm
content: I love "exploding" hollow point bullets. Yeah, they make those out of C4 now.If you are going to kill a laptop, you need two things. Space behind it and a Shotgun with some #4 - #00 shot. Then mount it on edge and shoot through it. Now you can actually see parts fly.The problem with his daughter and their idea of discipline started way before this Facebook post. I can't really see any situation where I would want to post a video on the internet showing exactly how poorly I raised my child.

author: Excavatoree
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:20:44 pm
content: Quote from: sacherjj on February 14, 2012, 09:17:52 pmThat's my conclusion as well. Posting that video, or even doing what he did without posting the video won't solve his problem with his kid - it will make it worse.

author: FenderBender
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:44:57 pm
content: I think it makes us Americans look like shite also....Now everyone will think that Americans walk around with .44s and wear cowboy hats and shoot laptops for fun. :pI see a lot of support in the comments which surprises me. Yes, the girl did say some rather immature things, but you can't just take this bozo's story and say that the daughter is 100% at fault here.And then this is how you teach a kid? I'm not saying you should give her a bouquet of flowers and tell her "not to do it next time", but to ruin her childhood by posting a video about her father destroying her laptop? Why?Yes, it sends a powerful message. "Don't do stupid crap on Facebook", but I think he could have done it better.

author: FenderBender
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:46:19 pm
content: Double.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:49:50 pm
content: And the guy isn't even from Texas.

author: 8086
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:52:09 pm
content: Sure is liberal in hereSounds like his daughter needed teaching a lesson.Lesson learned.Problem?

author: FenderBender
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:53:55 pm
content: I think the adult should be the mature one here. Is shooting your daughters laptop and putting it on youtube mature?That's for you to decide.

author: jasonh
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 09:57:31 pm
content: Right or wrong, it would be a popular video because he did what some of us would like to do but we don't.I think most people know the rights and wrongs, if it is good parenting or not. I don't think it is worth that debate.A lot of people would be thinking to themselves I wish I could go out and do that!

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 10:00:54 pm
content: QuoteAIUI his daughter's 15 and doesn't have a job (one of his points of contention) so, I think it's likely to behislaptop.Otherwise I'm keeping out of the good or bad parenting argument.

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 10:12:49 pm
content: i don't understand how he went collage in school and had a job.

author: Shale
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 10:16:51 pm
content: I like it. I side with the guy. If my daughter acted like that I would be pissed off as well.

author: mstevens
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 10:26:00 pm
content: All responding to this post care to disclose how many children they have and the ages of their kids?I have two sons ages 12 and 14.

author: caroper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 10:30:29 pm
content: Well at least I now know why American teenagers steal their fathers hand gun and take it to school. I hope this is not another such story in the making.I have had a colonial upbringing in Africa so the whole American culture is strange to me, but I don't see how that attitude helps anyone. With his temper I suppose we can be thankful that he took it out on the laptop rather than thrashing the girl or worse.I certainly don't see any good in what he did and I don't see how it can improve things, he just escalated the war and anything his daughter does in response she is only following her fathers example.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 10:32:59 pm
content: Quote from: Excavatoree on February 14, 2012, 09:20:44 pmditto

author: FenderBender
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 11:28:24 pm
content: Ditto to the ditto. If this is the way he acts around his kid on a normal basis...maybe you can see why she's mad.Who knows! There's a lot of ways to teach a kid a lesson. Just think this causes too much destruction for whatever positive outcome it provides.

author: Kibi
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 11:39:16 pm
content: Quote from: caroper on February 14, 2012, 10:30:29 pmJa, me too. I didn't have a laptop, but I'd have got 6 lashes, no dinner and a right telling off. That would have been it, all back to normal. But I'll tell you one thing, I'd never do it again!

author: Shale
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2012, 11:42:57 pm
content: i have a daughter.I don't have a problem with the dad's actions. Different children respond to different things. Some respond to a stern talking to, some to being sent to the corner, some respond to being grounded or taking away television privileges, But some kids don't. some it takes a spanking, or other measures to get through to them. This father felt that this was the only way left to get his point across to his daughter any more.

author: Time
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 12:22:12 am
content: I think its awesome.

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 12:41:34 am
content: It should have been a Panasonic toughbook. Bullets would just bounce off.Alexander.

author: Excavatoree
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 01:12:00 am
content: Quote from: firewalker on February 15, 2012, 12:41:34 amI apologize for the off topic remark, but there is almost nothing I need less and want more than a Panasonic Toughbook.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 01:24:51 am
content: i cant say anything about parenting (or husband'ing'). its too easy to be told how to. but in reality... i cant tell, esp if you have a nasty habit like soldering things on your bench all day long. but quoted from him... "disrespect to your mother andstep mother?" maybe cultural difference, but my understanding is... he is not christian because christians dont practice polygamy AFAIKi stand to be corrected. and most polygamists in my place have trouble raising their kids, not the religion fault, but the way they do things (unfairly). and oh, the laptop! shit he's a stupid idiot unless its a made up mock up to show the kid that its already destroyed. if me, i will take and use or simply resell it. shooting it will just promote waste and"not green"environment.

author: jasonh
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 01:51:17 am
content: Step mother as in divorced and remarried. I doubt there are three in the bed.

author: Kilroy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 02:33:49 am
content: What the.....??!!23,146,913 views....since February 8th?

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 02:39:25 am
content: Quote from: Kilroy on February 15, 2012, 02:33:49 amWell he's got to monetize right? He just shot his laptop full of holes. Where else is he gonna get the money to pay for the damage?

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 03:59:37 am
content: Quote from: jasonh on February 15, 2012, 01:51:17 amso i see. the problem is not with the kid only, but the wifey(s) as wellpoor guy i wonder whats his hobby. i hope not beer and whis'kas(ky) and the club and the dancing on the floor and bed

author: joedevola
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 04:14:22 am
content: I have a 15 year old daughter who spends plenty of time on Facebook, so I can understand the father's frustration.Having said that, however, I believe he has escalated the problem rather than help it. On top of that, I find the handgun culture in (parts?) of the USA extremely disturbing.

author: bullet308
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 06:02:48 am
content: I understand what he did, I do not understand posting it to YouTube.Turing the admonition of a child into a massive public spectacle is not in the best interests of the child, which is supposed to be the object of the exercise. This isn't about YOUR anger, this is about correcting the child. Stay focused.And shooting a perfectly good laptop strikes me as wasteful. And infantile.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 06:43:26 am
content: the guys a jerk and spoilt his daughter possibly because of the divorce or his wife died and he was trying to make amends with another woman. Now he is finding it is too late to have any control over her and does not know what to do. as for his IT skills allowing him to see her FB even if she blocked him I call bullshit, with all of the silly FB settings she probably thought she had blocked him but had not. when this guy grows up himself he can be a parent. I think he may be taking other frustrations out in this (putting bullets through a laptop) this is not just about his daughter or he is a bigger jerk than so far estimated.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 09:13:31 am
content: I posted this as it seems so typical of how the world sees the US, before all the Americans out there get upset I have been to the US many times and know that a lot of you are not like that. But this sort of idiot waving a gun is the perceived norm now. I have talked to British soldiers who said that during the Iraq war they were more scared of the US forces than the Iraqi ones.What happens next time does he post a video of himself putting a few round through his daughter.Is it not time that the Americans introduced some form of gun control, after all when the constitution was written the idea of semi or fully automatic guns with "exploding hollow points"( I think he meant expanding) or ballistic tips was just not conceivable it was the day of muzzle loaders and flints.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 09:19:02 am
content: The next few snippets of "fact" come from the 'net so are, of course, 100% reliable and trueQuoteApparently she'd blocked him but forgot about the "joke" profile they'd set up for the dog - he used that to read her rant.QuoteI did read somewhere that he has refused to speak to the media about this so I'm not sure he's getting financial gain from it.His requests don't seem that unreasonable on the face of it - do some minimal household chores, think about a part-time job so she can have some money of her own, not just rely on dad. Don't dis the cleaner.It wasn't a first offence - she'd been warned that he'd most likely put a bullet in the laptop if she repeatedly posted rants on facebook. Some of the follow up on the 'net suggests that, though a bit extreme the video has improved the dialogue between the two of them as they read through the comments people were posting together.DOI: Have an 8 year old.

author: AntiProtonBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 09:50:03 am
content: There are million different ways to scrape private data from sites such as Facebook.The fact that the father was repairing/upgrading the laptop, he could easily looked at the browser history and the cache. Most IT technicians do when they clean machines.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 09:56:52 am
content: To be honest I still say that he has more issues than just his daughter, there was no need to put it online, putting bullets through the laptop was enough and more, saying that a bullet was from her mum was hurtful, It's not nice to see both your parents "gang up" on you PUBLICLY, and to be honest I don't think his daughter cares what type of bullets he used and that display of macho is what worries me. The guy has a problem - Yea you bet it has improved the dialogue with his daughter........As for using another facebook account to see hers - wow astounding IT skills - he gets marks for being resourceful and outsmarting his daughter, that is about it.

author: Mint.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:00:52 am
content: I personally consider this video is right. The guy certainly knows how to parent his daughter. Kids are too spoilt on Facebook and everything like that, they have no responsibilities are are becoming really arrogant thanks to large social factors. I think this needs to stop. Now about the laptop, its his money, he paid for the laptop, so he can do whatever he wants to do with it, shoot it, use it, upgrade it, whatever, his choice. The girl got what she deserved, and in fact I may even consider this as a light punishment, because she could of had it way worse, way worse. She doesn't suffer like all the kids in underdeveloped countries or anything like that. If she can't respect her parents, then thats what she gets.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:01:46 am
content: I have to give the guy credit where credit is due.He has managed to turn and Electronic Engineering Blog into a Parenting Blog......With just ONE video.Regards

author: Mint.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:03:29 am
content: Quote from: PeterG on February 15, 2012, 10:01:46 amagreed!

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:03:38 am
content: Quote from: Mint. on February 15, 2012, 10:00:52 amworse ? she's spoilt ? yea who spoilt her ? same for all kids

author: Mint.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:05:23 am
content: Quote from: Simon on February 15, 2012, 10:03:38 amI think the father trusted her and believed that she could in fact be responsible when online, however it does not seem to have worked out too well.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:09:15 am
content: Quote from: Mint. on February 15, 2012, 10:05:23 amunfortunately damage control is not a good way to bring children up. He should have done a better job of it in the first place and then would not be in this situation. He is treating his daughter like a co-worker in the office......

author: Mint.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:10:53 am
content: Quote from: Simon on February 15, 2012, 10:09:15 amAgreed, but I guess that perhaps once in a while it is reasonable in my opinion. Assuming of course that he tried other solutions beforehand.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:12:45 am
content: I'd only go this far if she was doing something illegal etc. Unfortunately children are given full reign on social media and the internet and there is no parental control. Patrents should be given back control of their children.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:14:16 am
content: His response might have been overly macho - or we might be viewing the events through cultural blinkers. I'm not actually sure which.As to how he read her facebook page, yep he had the laptop so might just as easily have used her browser with the facebook login password saved, or he might, indeed, have looked through the cache. Again I'm not really that bothered - the dog's profile storyisamusing and has a ring of truth to it just because people do that sort of thing.I'm worried by anyone who considers that IT tech's "routinely" looking through the browser cache is OK though.What Idofind interesting is the way this is polarising people - comments seem to be firmly in the "way to go" or "useless father" camp.It sounds like the family has a not atypical, real world, less-than-ideal dynamic. Yes, there was more drama in his solution to his daughters transgression than strictly necessary but if it has produced something of a rapprochement between the two of them then some good appears to have come of it. Personally I'd cut the guy some slack.

author: AntiProtonBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:16:22 am
content: I think the father has made some very valid points.However, I have to side with Simon here. For me the tipping point was him making a private matter a public spectacle. And the fact that a gun was involved. A lot of unnecessary agression.It's a tragic example how kids are basically ill prepared to conduct themselves on social networking mediums safely. Parents are powerless to guide them, because everything happens in secret.Quote from: grumpydoc on February 15, 2012, 10:14:16 amThis the norm when tracking down the source of malware.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:19:27 am
content: Quote from: Simon on February 15, 2012, 10:12:45 amToo True.

author: Mint.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:20:36 am
content: Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on February 15, 2012, 10:16:22 amI agree with you, making it a public matter was unnecessary.I also agree about the aggression bit, of course it was unnecessary to use a gun, but what would you use? (just as a side note, joke, when else in life would you be able to use a gun!?)

author: Mint.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:22:02 am
content: Quote from: Simon on February 15, 2012, 10:12:45 amEverybody has got their own ways. This may not look so good, but perhaps in the long run she will become more mature, by being away from the computer. Amazing how much time kids spend in front of the computer these days! I also agree with your statement afterwards.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:33:11 am
content: QuoteFair point when there a need to go trawling, though a lot of the time I'd just clean up, make sure the AV is up-to-date and functional and move on. Life's too short and all that.There was an "exposé" documentary on UK TV a few years ago about repair technicians snooping through people's computers so I think a lot of people would actually be uncomfortable with knowing that the cache could be gone through like that.

author: jasonh
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:34:05 am
content: He put it online to put it on her facebook page so that the same people she was talking up to would see it.When someone is playing up to their peers they can quickly stop crying wolf when those people are clear on both sides of the story.I bet she is no longer saying that stuff to her friends when they know she wasn't all truthful about it in the first place.

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:48:12 am
content: was i the only one thinking in there head which parts he actually hit, gpu first hit, then ram, scatter around ram and wireless, etc, poor laptop,

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 11:10:40 am
content: Quote from: jasonh on February 15, 2012, 10:34:05 amhe could have posted as the dog and made his point instead of making a jerk of himself

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 11:22:21 am
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on February 15, 2012, 10:14:16 amTelling people what bullets he was using made it a macho thing regardless of culture. If he's a real man he would use something simple like a hachet or larger axe. Guns are for wimps !

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 11:28:02 am
content: Quote from: joedevola on February 15, 2012, 04:14:22 amHe's also implying that it's fine to use violence, which is even more disturbing.Not saying that the countless videos on YouTube of random rednecks destroying stuff for entertainment aren't disturbing either... although this was not as morbidly entertaining.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 11:31:10 am
content: unfortunately google only care for ad clicks, I'd remove a lot of stuff off youtube without much thought

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 12:44:19 pm
content: There are two morals to this story. one: you tube and guns can make you look a right prick. Two: You should always use CCleaner or similar before you let an IT person or any one else for that matter near your computer.

author: SgtRock
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 06:47:58 pm
content: Dear G7PSK:--Leaving aside, for the moment your anonymously quoted blood libel, against the brave men and women of the US armed forces, let me just say that I very much doubt that Brittish Soldiers in Iraq spent very much time being afraid of anything. But you are right about one thing, the sooner the US implements "gun confiscation", er I mean "gun control" the sooner all US citizens will have to cower in in their houses while yobs and gangs control the streets. Indeed the Brittish are way ahead of the US, in this respect. Just out of curiosity; Since the UK has instituted "gun confiscation", er I mean "gun control", has gun crime gone up or down.To FenderBender:--So pray tell, Sir, just what is wrong with "wearing cowboy hats". Please do not tell me you are one of those people who think calling someone a cowboy is an insult. If so, perhaps you should find some people wearing cowboy hats and remonstrate with them."The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."Adolf Hitler 1889 - 1945Best RegardsClear Ether

author: jasonh
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 06:49:11 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on February 15, 2012, 11:22:21 amPersonally I thought destroying it with a pistol was far more clinical and less violent than recording yourself swinging an axe multiple times which would have come off more emotive.Unless you think guns kill people and get offended by that.

author: 8086
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 06:57:37 pm
content: Quote from: jasonh on February 15, 2012, 06:49:11 pmI'm sorry to say, I think there's quite a lot of that in here.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 06:59:16 pm
content: Quote from: jasonh on February 15, 2012, 06:49:11 pmTh simplicity of an axe is all you need to render a laptop useless with on blow, why the sophistication of a gun ? he fired 6 shots at the laptop, then said that a 7th was from her mum which I very much doubt and then realizing he had miscounted and had another bullet fired that to just for luck, to be honest i think he may of been slighly inebriated when he made that video

author: jasonh
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 07:10:36 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on February 15, 2012, 06:43:26 amI am quoting your other post because I think you have some other issue with this, I don't know what.Why do I think this? Because of your analysis of the situation based on what? I don't think that video tells you anything about his situation except for a small insight in to a couple of things.I have younger kids but some friends have teenagers and you can see them grow up as great kids with great parenting and then something happens almost overnight when friends/internet etc happens. It's not all the parents fault.Your post tells me that you are seeing things in black and white as you were able to draw large conclusions based on nothing. I don't think it is that simple.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 07:13:28 pm
content: everything we are saying here is pure conjecture, I don't think you need a gun in parenting. if he needs a gun to sort his daughter out how dos he settle arguments down the pub

author: jasonh
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 07:18:27 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on February 15, 2012, 07:13:28 pmWith an axe or a hatchet?

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 07:34:25 pm
content: depends on which one you happen have lying around, a hachet will do but I have a 5 lb axe out the back that with one effortless swing will render the laptop useless, no need for all that hassle with the gun.I don't think his daughter gives a toss what bullets he used, neither do her FB friends

author: jasonh
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 07:38:33 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on February 15, 2012, 07:34:25 pmI was referring to your other post about only using something he would take to the pub for a fight. Based on your logic he should take the hatchet or an axe.I wouldn't take an axe or a hatchet. I would very quickly get sick of all the 'are you happy to see me' jokes.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 07:48:27 pm
content: Quote from: jasonh on February 15, 2012, 07:38:33 pmThe answer to that is neither ! like I say if he needs a gun to discipline his daughter how does he manage the rest of his life ?

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 08:38:28 pm
content: Quote from: Shale on February 14, 2012, 11:42:57 pmIt makes sense. Nobody who isn't out of their mind would waste $300+ when he could get the problem sorted out with sending the kid to a corner.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 08:45:50 pm
content: Dear Sgt RockBefore Tony Blair who to my mind was Mr Bushes yes man took away legally held hand guns in order to appease a press that has now shown its true colors, I was a pistol shooter and on the committee of my local gun club, I was also a home office registered range master.Yes gun crime has gone up in the mainland UK much of this is to do with immigrant population and guns available from from eastern Europe after the collapse of the Russian empire there, also a lot of conversion of highly realistic replica weapons.I do not call for a total ban on weapons, but a system of licencing much like we used to have here in the UK where a person was not only vetted by the police but required their doctors signature, ant the ability of the permit to be revoked if the person holding that weapon used it in a reckless or inappropriate manner and or committed a crime of any nature or required psychiatric treatment. The sort of behavior shown by the man on you tube would quite likely get him a visit from the police and whilst it would not necessarily have resulted in him loosing his permit he would have received a warning or talking to by the firearms officer, and to my mind quite rightly too.

author: FenderBender
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 08:46:59 pm
content: Quote from: SgtRock on February 15, 2012, 06:47:58 pmNothing is wrong with wearing cowboy hats in itself...at all.However, this video gives Americans and all those good 'cowboys' out there a shitty rep. If you came to the US and saw a guy with a cowboy hat you might make some assumptions? I don't know.I just don't like this attitude of this video and the picture it paints of American culture. This is one of the reasons why people don't like us very much.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 08:49:32 pm
content: Guns should be used to defend your freedom, not to destroy an innocent laptop.

author: FenderBender
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 09:05:01 pm
content: Quote from: G7PSK on February 15, 2012, 08:45:50 pmI live in New Jersey and we have some pretty strict gun laws. For instance, I need a full fledged firearms license if I want to purchase a BB gun! A BB gun that has trouble piercing human skin is treated the same as a .44. I don't know whether that's good or bad...but acquiring a license is a pain in the ass. They do all sorts of background checks. Takes forever. I guess that's why there are so many illegal guns.Not all parts of the country have very lax gun laws. I don't know where this guy was from. Somewhere in the south, I presume. Because population density is much lower in those areas, guns are more widely accepted. Plus, it's part of a lot of southern culture. There's a wide array of cultures in the US, and the gun thing happens to be one of them. Primarily, lax gun laws are usually present in the south and west. The Midwest and east are typically stricter, due to population density being much higher For example, there are more people in my county then there are in the state of Montana. I don't think strict gun laws are required there.However, I don't want to sound like I'm defending this guy. Shooting a laptop is immature and just stupid. Plus he tells us what bullet he uses? Who cares!? If you are going to use a gun, please use it to defend yourself from harm, or for hunting. There's no need to make a public stink about it, and then make your country look like a bunch of wackjobs.

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 09:06:39 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on February 15, 2012, 07:34:25 pmOh, yes some of them do. I wonder what was her reaction.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 09:30:18 pm
content: Virtually all nations have one strict gun law a law to which I have not even heard the NSRA raise it voice against. Proofing, without which a gun cannot legally be sold so why not have the same safety requirements on the user as the item used.My apologies Dave I seem to have wandered away from electronics with this, so to bring back electronics and mention an Australian invention.I once saw a demonstration of a gun which fired one million rounds a minute it used multi barrels which contained many rounds stacked in each barrel and was fired electronically. And it was Invented by an Australian so must be good.

author: Mint.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 09:50:08 pm
content: Quote from: FenderBender on February 15, 2012, 09:05:01 pmBro, you can say who cares for anything. Of course it doesn't matter, but if he feels the need to say something let him say it.

author: FenderBender
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:08:02 pm
content: Quote from: Mint. on February 15, 2012, 09:50:08 pmBecause it's irrelevant/out of context. Unless it's supposed to scare me or soemething.Anyway. I'm done with this thread now. But those are my feelings.

author: Mint.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2012, 10:30:40 pm
content: Quote from: FenderBender on February 15, 2012, 10:08:02 pmWhatever, no point arguing over this. Already happened can't do anything about it now.

author: Shale
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 02:24:29 am
content: Quote from: ivan747 on February 15, 2012, 08:38:28 pmdont misunderstand what I am saying. at that age she is to old to go to the corner. thats for young children. but there are other things that can be done as well. But I am all for parental rights. if thats how he chooses to deal with it, then it is his decision and i support it as long as no harm comes to the child. At least he is not one of those parents who let the kids be little snots to everyone.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 06:52:21 am
content: Quote from: Shale on February 16, 2012, 02:24:29 amshe sounded like a right little snot in her "letter", this has gone too far already and now he realizes he is out of control and gets his gun out......... most people are commenting on his actions and not taking much note of the daughters letter

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 07:28:40 am
content: I dont care about the daughter or the father but, As a member of this EE Forum however, i take great exception to the shear abuse of an defenceless Laptop. The Laptop could have been donated to any charity to live out its life with someone who appreciates it.Regards

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 07:52:05 am
content: Quote from: PeterG on February 16, 2012, 07:28:40 amI whole heartedly agree

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 08:53:47 am
content: And so do I. There are plenty of charity's that could put a laptop to good use.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 01:21:03 pm
content: Quote from: PeterG on February 16, 2012, 07:28:40 amThe laptop's disk could have been erased and Linux installed on it. Then given back to the daughter. "Use this or have fun installing and configuring Windows from scratch.".

author: bullet308
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 01:27:51 pm
content: Quote from: BoredAtWork on February 16, 2012, 01:21:03 pmOkay, now THATS funny! Better yet, a wiped laptop and the install disks for Debian!

author: sacherjj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 05:28:05 pm
content: Quote from: bullet308 on February 16, 2012, 01:27:51 pmPlease. Did you HEAR her post? She should be given a blank laptop and a stack of 14 floppies with Slackware on it. Be forced to edit her X11 config by hand to get video and try not to kill her monitor...Wait... What. Where am I?Sorry. I just jumped back to some bad, bad initial exposure to Linux times in my past.

author: _Sin
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 05:45:58 pm
content: Take the laptop apart. Completely apart. Desolder anything that isn't going to be destroyed in the process.Put all the bits into a box and hand back to the daughter with a soldering iron, etc.*now* she'll learn something useful.

author: Mint.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 09:59:42 pm
content: Quote from: _Sin on February 16, 2012, 05:45:58 pmNice one!

author: bullet308
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2012, 10:19:22 pm
content: One word for you: Yggdrasil. That is all.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2012, 01:12:08 am
content: Guns are not really very satisfactory for destroyingthings.---People,yes,they are quite efficient!Imagine if Hollywood showed someone shooting a Laptop---the thing would skitter all over the place,ending up halfway across the paddock,shattered into a hundred pieces!In real life,it just sits there & ends up with a bunch of holes in it----most unsatisfying!I could do the same with an Electric drill.A shotgun may be a little better,but probably still wouldn't match Hollywood.I think a sledgehammer would be the ideal implement for the job--just keep bashing till there is nothing left!Very satisfying!You can see I'm into this Laptop destruction."Why?", you ask.-------------- I have a Toshiba C650 with Windows 7!

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2012, 01:28:12 am
content: Quote from: _Sin on February 16, 2012, 05:45:58 pmBrilliant.

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2012, 02:03:53 am
content: Quote from: bullet308 on February 16, 2012, 01:27:51 pmNo, just a Linux terminal with the wget command and the apt-get thingy.

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2012, 02:06:31 am
content: Quote from: nanofrog on February 17, 2012, 01:28:12 amGive her a bunch of Forrest Mims books on analog and digital electronics and databooks from the 70's. And a Z80 and a serial port modem.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2012, 02:17:36 am
content: There is always the ultimate punishment, give her a Macbook, but that may constitute child abuse.Regards

author: sonicj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2012, 03:17:08 am
content: some electronic appliances deserve to be taught a lesson. her laptop should have known better....-sj

author: Shale
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2012, 03:48:59 am
content: Quote from: sonicj on February 17, 2012, 03:17:08 amlol