LFS (DE): DER EE DE-5000 LCR meter - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ondre
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 17, 2015, 10:50:19 am
content: Hi everyone,I'm looking for a source for the DER EE DE-5000 LCR meter in Germany.Some time ago I tried buying one from a japanese seller on Amazon, but that didn't work to well. It took three weeks until the package arrived in Germany. It was then held hostage by the customs for one more week. After that, I received a notification from the customs that there was no invoice attached to the outside of the package and I had two weeks to come to their office and show them my invoice (and pay the ransom). Unfortunately, due to the slow delivery of the notification, I had only four days left to get to the customs office which is opened monday to friday between approx. 12:00 and 12:05 pm. Since their working minutes are colliding with my working hours, I tried to call them to explain the situation. It took another two days to get someone on the phone who told me that I could simply send the invoice to them and the cash will be collected on delivery. Well, so much for the theory...I personally put the invoice into the customs office mailbox waited another two month and finally got the notification from the seller that the item has arrived back safely in JapanSo, that's why I would prefer to buy the LCR meter from a German reseller. Any suggestions?Thanks!!Ondre

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 17, 2015, 11:15:59 am
content: I'd like an LCR meter too, any good brand one!

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2015, 12:28:11 pm
content: Can't beat the DER EE DE5000, especially for the price. I just imported one from Japan to UK with the 5-wire croc clips (TL-21) and tweezers (TL-22) for $100 USD delivered. It only took a week (thankfully items sent regular airmail often seem to slip through customs. Hint to fellow Brits: always choose regular airmail instead of EMS. It's often quicker and always cheaper. You still get tracking.)As for you continentals, I believe the German & Italian customs secretly dream of working back in the Hitler / Mussolini regimes. Even Dave Jones has had a nightmare with sending his uCurrents over there.Maybe find someone within the other EU member states who could import it for you and then forward it on to Germany?

author: Ondre
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 17, 2015, 01:38:24 pm
content: That's why I'm particularly looking for the DE 5000. From what I've seen on the internet, it's supposed to be really good value for the price. Alternative for me could possibly be the PEAK LCR 45, which SDG Electronics recently reviewed on his Youtube channel.No CE and no WEEE makes customs go crazy. They seem to be hopelessly over-burdened here. I've received lots of mail from the US from OSHPark or Sparkfun that never got stuck in the customs. Even Daves uCurrent arrived without any problems. Maybe I just ran out of luck.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2015, 02:04:20 pm
content: I would retry the Japan route. It was the cheapest I could find and no alternatives in Europe (when I looked). You could try detailing your issues in an email to the seller...... maybe it could be described as an educational electronics 'kit' ? To the best of my knowledge a kit does not require CE or any other such certification. It is not lying as it is a test KIT comprising main unit and plug in modulesIt is worth thinking outside the box.....I suggest you avoid describing it as 'tractor parts' thoughSometimes it all comes down to what is written on the paperwork. I was told that I could not send a HF radio receiver to Italy as they prohibit the import of suchI was referred to the Embassy in LondonTotal b*ll*cks ! Well the Lowe HF225 receiver magically became an "RF demodulator" on the paperwork and all went well at the Post office, poor gal had no clue what it wasThe package arrived at its destination without incident.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2015, 03:49:27 pm
content: For what it's worth, the DE5000 box has CE, RoHS, and ISO 9001 printed on it and the meter itself also has the CE moulding on the back of the case. Mine came with the correct customs CN22 declaration and invoices both inside and outside the jiffy bag it was mailed in.I can highly recommendthis ebay seller.As I said, I got the meter in a week, sent Registered Air Small Packet by Japan Post. The seller gave tracking details for the Japan Post website - you can even find the flight number the package is on! You will also find he pays attention to detail with the invoice to ensure a smooth customs experience ;Give them a try. Even your customs gestapo should let this one through!ETA: Had to look up what WEEE is. It's got the crossed out rubbish bin logo if that's all that's needed?

author: Ondre
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 17, 2015, 07:33:33 pm
content: Thank you, that sounds good! I'll give them a try.Yeah, WEEE is the crossed out rubbish bin. We need stuff like that in Germany. Makes it almost impossible to legally sell stuff as a hobbiest, unless you pay a couple of hundred euros per year.

author: Ondre
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 10:39:11 am
content: Two weeks now since my LCR meter left Tokyo. Fingers crossed

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 11:01:40 pm
content: Quote from: Ondre on June 05, 2015, 10:39:11 amWith my order the tracking on the Japan Post website stopped at the end of the flight (Heathrow). From there using the same JP tracking number on the Royal Mail / Parcelforce UK website tracks it within the country. Perhaps check Deutsch Post website - maybe it shows it being diverted to your customs again?

author: gmb42
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 12:57:47 pm
content: I ordered from ebay sellerbuyjapan001on 31st May, shipped 2nd June, arrived today, 8th June. There were no customs duties or VAT payable, full value (USD 94.99) declared on customs forms.Full marks to the seller and Japan Post Office. The Japanese Post Office also sent emails tracking the delivery at each change of location.

author: eurofox
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 03:52:33 pm
content: I got one in "new" condition just make me an offerCheck my feed back on eevblog :https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/eurofox-toploser-true-gentleman-you-can-trust/msg663622/#msg663622

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 04:27:33 pm
content: Sell it to me!

author: eurofox
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 06:21:19 pm
content: Quote from: TheAmmoniacal on June 08, 2015, 04:27:33 pmDepend how much you are willing to pay, shipping is 20 Euros.

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 06:27:14 pm
content: Quote from: eurofox on June 08, 2015, 06:21:19 pmNot enough

author: eurofox
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 06:33:50 pm
content: Quote from: TheAmmoniacal on June 08, 2015, 06:27:14 pmI know a few words of Swedish but should be similar to Norwegian.stora pengar

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 06:58:47 pm
content: Quote from: eurofox on June 08, 2015, 06:33:50 pmYou know the crown is in the gutters at the moment! 8.8 NOK per euro + 20 Euro shipping + 25% VAT + 14 euro import fee! Show me some mercy!

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 07:13:03 pm
content: You think that is bad?........

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 07:14:01 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on June 08, 2015, 07:13:03 pmAt you seriously implying SA is worse?

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 07:22:26 pm
content: R1 is 0.07Euro, so yes. Add to that you typically have to pay through the nose for shipping, it takes on average 2 months ( unless you want to pay stupid expensive for courier) and you will have a mass limit of 20kg in any case. then when it arrives you pay customs duty and VAT on that, and if you used the courier option you will have an additional $100 charge as well for the pleasure of them delivering the slip to your door telling you to collect it, or they will ask for COD, but they do accept cards only, so better have one ready.

author: eurofox
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 07:33:20 pm
content: Quote from: TheAmmoniacal on June 08, 2015, 06:58:47 pmDo you pay VAT and import duty from EU?

author: TheAmmoniacal
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 08, 2015, 07:48:28 pm
content: Quote from: eurofox on June 08, 2015, 07:33:20 pmYep.