JLCPCB scam - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 03:40:49 pm
content: Hi everyone.I have been using JLCPCB for some time. I spent thousands of EUR on them prototyping my hobby devices. I know spending thousands for hobby is too much but yea.Today JLCPCB sent me a strange email.First of all, Im designing super simple devices(actually its always the same im doing with minor changes to make it better), simple reed switch to be more precise.Just spoke to them on the chat and they said they cannot provide more information and that I actually have to PAY to take MY parts from the inventory.Pickup service fee for each kind of component:Service fee = Component unit price x Quantity x 30%EDIT: Appart from the Service Fee I have to go in CHINA and they will ship it to the address that I will provide to them in CHINA! They say they cannot ship to me the parts i have ALREADY BOUGHT from them and they are in the inventory!!!!I violated 0 rules, I don't know whats happening.All I know is that I have to use an other service provider and that they SCAMMED meQuote

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 06:09:53 pm
content: Your name/email is likely got flagged by some export control list. I would assume China has systems similar to the US export compliance requirements.I was on the support end when the systems is used. I never had to fully deny service to anyone, but a couple people got flagged and I had to wait for the issue to be cleared by compliance people. In that time not only I could not inform the customer of the delay, I could not talk to them at all. It sucks for all sides, but it is a government requirement and there is nothing individual company can do.I'm sure JLC does not want to abandon paying customers for no reason.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 06:24:17 pm
content: They can refuse to do business with anyone they want for whatever reason. Doing so after they got paid and not refunding 100% of the money paid for undelivered goods is a total bullshit and fraud. If they decided to refuse service while order was in intermediate state of production, sourcing parts, it's their problem, not customer's problem.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 06:26:36 pm
content: I agree that it is not right, but they may be limited by the law. If the person is on some list, then all transactions are prohibited, including return of the money. This is why they want an address in China for returns. It sucks to be caught in that in the middle of a translation, but I doubt JLC can do anything without violating the law.If this somehow becomes a bigger issue, then it would be a good argument to look for alternative sources. An argument much better than 200% tariff could ever be.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 06:59:23 pm
content: I do not see how and why i should be flagged!!I never orderd big batches..always the minimum of 5 and assemply only 2!But the key differance..I was paying for assemply to them.. the last 2 orders i paid for stencil and i did the assemply myself..and suddenly they close my account..I spent thousands on them because every assemply would cost me with shipping like 150usd.. so 20 tries the last 3-4 years made me spent thousands..I do not see how someone who is ordering the same thing, a noob who is new in designing and just tries to get his design to work can get flagged by the law or customs..I only see a customer who stopped paying for assemply to them being punished.My english arent the best but pay attention to the wording"Upon a thorough review by our Risk Control Team, we are sorry to inform you that, your account access will be permanently disabled on December 13th, 2025 due to compliance policy requirements."There is nothing to do with the law or customs. I violated no law..Their Risk Control Team according to them doesnt like me. for what? I assume for stopping paying assemply to them and getting super cheap PCBs and probably nearly 0 profit to them..I always paid with my personal credit and debit cards. Never even used my wife's card so it has nothing to do with any risk control..Be away people and do not lose money like me ... I bought parts in the inventory just to make sure they wont go out of stock and here i am now..

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 07:38:46 pm
content: It does not have to be them. You don't have to do anything bad as far as JLC are concerned. The export control lists are distributed by the government. They would not tell you if you are on that list.It may be be a mistake or just a name collision with someone that did something bad to get on that list.Again, I'm just guessing about the lists on the China side, but that would be the case on the US side, 100%. If you get on that list, your life becomes much harder all of a sudden.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 07:42:00 pm
content: Buddy,"due to compliance policy requirements."meaning you got flagged by someone. Not JLCPCB. They conformed to compliance request.Maybe you got flagged by some agency by mistake, by having name similar to someone.Banks do this all the time.And how many "same little simple boards" did you order to spend thousands of USD on them ?This sounds like low volume production and switches on PCBS can be used for any numbers of things too.Contact fuses? Or baby toys?So yeah if some compliance rule was suspected they reacted. Their life is complicated. They are in China and they have to obey USA, EU sanctions, they have to obey China sanctions, and all people and companies on the lists.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 07:48:17 pm
content: As i said in the last 4 years maybe something like 20 orders in total of 2 assempled boards..that means 150eur * 20.. means thousands..i answered that already

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 07:55:51 pm
content: I do not think Chinese customs would care if someone ordered in the last 4 years like 20 boards of similar design(to get it working)...And i Do not thing its such a big volume.And I do not think it has to do with them.And i Do not think 2N3055 interpretation of the wording is correct, sorry buddy."due to compliance policy requirements." does not mean i was reported by anyone because i did not do anythingg wrong anyway, but it definetaly doesnt mean this.Raising awarness here, do NOT trust them, do NOT spend money on buying parts in the inventory..When I stoped paying for assemply to them and i did it on my side, suddenly they had to suspend my account..Well im here, they have my name, my address etc why don't they report me to police if i did something so wrong?Be aware people, cheap is good but they do not make money from building the PCBs but from assemply..if you USE them to get cheap PCBs they will treat you as me and steal your money

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 07:58:00 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 03:40:49 pmYou can use a shipping forwarding agent, items are shipped to the forwarders warehouse in china, and then you pay the forwarder international shipping to get them sent you you, Superbuy.com is one.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:00:42 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 14, 2025, 07:42:00 pmIt says nowhere it was a request. "Policy" means it's their own "rules". Anyone can make their own policy.Quote from: sleemanj on October 14, 2025, 07:58:00 pmUnless he made a larger order this time, it's likely not worth it. If it was me, I'd rather try hurt them as much as I can on principle and forfeit the parts.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:02:46 pm
content: Quote from: sleemanj on October 14, 2025, 07:58:00 pmany pay pickup fees on top of it? why should i pay pickup fee minimum 30$ PER item to get the items that i paid for only because their software decided that im a risky customer?Does this make sense to you?

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:04:44 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on October 14, 2025, 08:00:42 pmTHANK YOU!Im raising awareness here.I have ordered in the last 4 years PCBs with assemply etc.. no issues..Right after i stopped paying assemply and doing it myself by buying a stencil from them then boom account suspended and i lose my parts from the inventory..Raising awarenes... be carefull people paying for parts to them to keep them in the inventory..

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:08:55 pm
content: Obviously they don't say what the problem is, and we don't know your projects, or any history with JLC/LCSCJLC isn't going to care if you assemble yourself or use assembly, they probably make more on the stencil, it will be something else, maybe a false-positive, but it is their prerogative.Here are the general terms, have a read, particularly section IV.https://jlcpcb.com/help/article/Terms-%26-Conditions

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:09:25 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on October 14, 2025, 08:00:42 pm

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:12:16 pm
content: Quote from: sleemanj on October 14, 2025, 08:08:55 pmbrother, i know the terms and conditions.and i wrote 10 times what the project was.they do NOT make money from stencil..well actually they do if you do not put DIMENSIONS in the stencil and they send you a huge one and charge you like 25usd for a tiny pcb..but last time i manually insterted dimensions for stencil to be slightly bigger than my pcb and the cost went down to like 1-2usd..so maybe they didnt like that?

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:13:28 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on October 14, 2025, 08:00:42 pmCompliance policy is government policy compliance.It works this way. You have lists. The onus is on you to comply. Nobody gives request from government specifically, case by case. You are required to comply. Company establishes Compliance department. They check every order for anything that can be problem according to those lists. If you are Chinese company, you try not to cross any lines that might piss of USA and they put your whole company on the list. Also they dare not cross anything mother China proscribes either.I have some insight into bank AML process and it is same. You have lists (that are now in high single digits of gigabytes) of "entities" that are under surveillance or denial. They have thousands of false positives. Some people on the list have dozens of aliases..It is a shitshow...

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:16:01 pm
content: An if anybody cared to actually read, their policy to deliver leftover parts from storage with them is clearly stated and is exactly what they told him. That part is known beforehand.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:17:07 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 14, 2025, 08:16:01 pmdo you work for them bro?it would make sense to keep my parts if i was actually violating any rule but guess what, im not!you got a coupon or what?

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:17:17 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 08:12:16 pmIn none of your posts here have you done so that I can see, you have said that they are small, and numerous, but not what they actually are.They might be IED firing mechanisms, they might be blinking leds.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:19:00 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 14, 2025, 08:16:01 pmok if you know that part beforehand and you are normal hobbyst customer and you buy parts in the inventory and then they suddenly suspend your account you would say oh i knew that before they would steal my money so its ok?Enjoy your coupon bro. im sure you will get one if you havent got one for posting this nonsense your posting

author: cunningfellow
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:19:17 pm
content: Do you know anyone else in Greece that uses JLC? Maybe it is just your address/country.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:20:12 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 08:17:07 pmYou don't have to violate JLC rules. It is a government list. Your email may belong to a company on an entity list, for example. Or you made some Vinnie the Pooh joke, or donated to some organization that China does not like. Or literally your name is the same as some other person on that list.I've seen how this system works from the US side personally. It is this bad. Information on those lists is extremely messy.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:26:36 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 14, 2025, 08:20:12 pmBut man my name isn't James or John or whatever. its just a strange firstname lastname. cant be on aaaany list.I think they realised they dont make money out of my last orders anymore especially becauses i manually decreased stencil's size and did not do any assemply to them..again, be aware and cautious and think 1000 times before paying money on them to keep parts in the inventory.i do not care if they dont want me for a customer, i can find it 10 ther similar companies, slightly more expensive but better quality.what i care for is how they just SCAM peopleEDIT:I think some of you guys are missing the point.NOTHING was violated, im NOT in any list, i used my personal details and personal cards to make orders the last 4 years..Nothing was wrong, its a post to raise awareness not to cry for them not wanting me as a customer. i dont want them first of all as a service provider.. be aware and cautious giving them money for keeping parts in inventory.look at the forest, dont look at my finger pointing to the forest

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:33:10 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 08:19:00 pmWhat is next insult? I work for Putin?A generic response of people that don't like what other people tell them. Insult.Fact that you don't read is your problem.When I looked into assembly in JLCPCB that was literally first thing I read there.https://jlcpcb.com/help/article/components-pickup-pricingFor your information I did not like it either. But those are the rules of contract and they are stated on their site in plain sight.That is separate issue to why you were flagged by Compliance dept.Which is your problem here. They DID NOT flag you for giggles. Vendors do that stuff very reluctantly. It loks bad and pisses off customers. It is bad for them.I do not presume you are someone that is rightfully banned. But there might be false positive on some list. There are people here on EEVBLOG that were refused some plain vanilla chips by Mouser stating some export violation.Your bigger problem now is: if you go to PCBWAY now will they refuse you too..

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:34:13 pm
content: To those ones INSISTING that i might be on any list by mistake etc etc etcAgain, my english aren't the best but iiiiiiiiiiiif I was on aaaaaaany imaginary list.. would they let me finish any existing orders??? (i have 0 existing orders but parts in the inventory).read the email they sent.. number 1:QuoteSo i can complete existing orders and get them shipped despite the fact im on this china's spy list or whatever you guys are thinking the reason is??How does that make sense to you because it doesnt make sense to me AT ALL!!!!

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:43:20 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 08:34:13 pmRead my lips: it is not spy stuff.These are lists of comercial entities, people, classes of goods etc.. Millions and millions of things. Say thank you to USA sanctions polices and export regimes and all other countries that do the same in reverse.Fact they gave you due date is actually a hint. You got included in some category that starts being sanctioned from some date.It can country + product + whatever related. Since there are millions and millions entities on these lists they started including categories with wildcards too..Shitshow.Just read again what Ataradov wrote. Basically same thing. He is in USA, I tell you from EU. Same import export regime.I am sorry for your troubles and wish you could sort it out. But I don't think reasons are what you think they are. Take or leave it.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:50:29 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 14, 2025, 08:43:20 pmbro you cant believe what you write..they gave a date because it must be an automatic email or procedure they have thats today + 2 months..if i was flagged or i did something so illegal ooor if they thought by false positive i did something illegal THEY WOULD LET ME COMPLETE THE EXISTIN ORDERS??do you really believe that?i mean go to sleep bro and let other people read what i wrote, let them understand and let them protect themselvs from these scammers

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:52:24 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 08:50:29 pm

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 08:54:54 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 14, 2025, 08:52:24 pm6usd coupon for you by daddy jlcpcb.the one who thinks im a spy or be on whatever list but they are sitll willing to complete any pending orders(if i had ones).very smart of you bro. im such a bad person, im violating rules and laws but yea if i have any orders left they will still do them because they are good people.. yea man sure.goodnightpeople be aware... dont risk your money with their parts inventory

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:01:55 pm
content: Maybe they are using AI to evaluate how profitable you are for them, and it decided to ban you. This is not unheard, YouTube just popped this recommend video the other day:AI is denying your healthcare (and it's getting worse)Vanessa WingårdhIn short, healthcare intentionally set an AI trained to DENY medical healthcare in order to maximize profits. Doctors are punished by internal regulations in case they override the AI decision. This is beyond dystopian already.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:18:31 pm
content: This makes no sense at all. Most of their orders are not profitable, it is a marketing expense. And it would happen way more often if that was the case.If you search for the wording in their response, it does not appear as is anywhere I can find. But related searches show people with email domain "yandex.ru" are getting similar (but not exact) rejections.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:29:25 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 14, 2025, 09:18:31 pmvery strange right? i mean, why would they COMPLETE all my existing orders if i was doing anything illegal for the next 2 months?I only realised when i wrote about it here that their number 1 thing on the email is that they will suspend my account but they will complete any existing orders first..makes no sense at all..

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:30:13 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 08:34:13 pmPeople were sent to forced labor camp by the soviets because they made a clerical error.It's not uncommon to get on some watchlist by accident.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:32:39 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on October 14, 2025, 09:30:13 pmtrue its not uncommon to get on a watchlist accidently but how common is to steal your money for being on a watchlist by mistake?

author: cunningfellow
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:33:02 pm
content: Maybe some part of the current christian crackdown.Your name is almost Jesus ChristBut what ever the reason I can assure you it is nothing about you not being profitable and them wanting to scam you or rip you off.You where never profitable. Your total orders and your current inventory is not even a rounding error.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:34:31 pm
content: Quote from: cunningfellow on October 14, 2025, 09:33:02 pmah so its ok they can steal my money

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:37:49 pm
content: Yes, they can. This is the nature of doing business with foreign entities.Order locally and you will have an entity to sue for contract violation.As to the question of how rare it is, I can't find a single other report of this happening, so apparently quite rare.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:38:48 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 08:26:36 pmyou don't know if you are on a list, maybe you are not but you, or some error, somehow triggered something.you must be crazy if you think a company of that size will go through that hassle just because you order something cheaper, if that was it they would just increase your price

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:40:08 pm
content: Quotebecause wot your doing aint illegal yet,it only becomes illegal after 13 december

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:44:01 pm
content: nothing changes after 13 december..its just today + 2 months. so more chances to be just their procedure..dont look at the reason, look at what they did.decided to:suspend my account for policy violationbut will complete existing orders which is contradictory to policy violationand not willing to refund me the inventory..thats the reason of the post..not our guesses of WHY they did it..look at the forest , stop staring at my finger pointing to the forest

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:44:34 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 09:32:39 pmWell, at least you weren't sent to Siberia for 20 years, so there is some silver lining, right?I get you are upset, I would be also.

author: squadchannel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:46:37 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 14, 2025, 09:37:49 pmhttps://www.reddit.com/r/diyelectronics/comments/1o6nsr2/weird_email_from_jlcpcb/

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:47:57 pm
content: Quote from: squadchannel on October 14, 2025, 09:46:37 pmthats not me.THANK YOU!!you see people...

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:50:32 pm
content: Maybe write them back, and kindly ask them what compliance policy is your account breaking. Ask them if there is anything you can do from your side to restore the compliance status, and what is the risk that was detected for your account.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:53:46 pm
content: No one is trying to scam you.Quote from: ataradov on October 14, 2025, 09:18:31 pmStory is here:https://www.reddit.com/r/PCB/comments/1d37su8/jlcpcb_denied_pcba_service_because_im_associated/Though it was clear why it happened in that case, former address was Russia.Maybe name search here:https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/

author: UnijunctionTransistor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:57:07 pm
content: @jeschrisFirst of all, nobody here is happy about your problems. We get that you should be RIGHTFULLY pissed off.People are attempting to explain possible causes. Calling them names, just because you don’t agree with them, is fully unwarranted.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 09:57:54 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on October 14, 2025, 09:53:46 pmim not on that list just checked thanks for the info.if you see on previous post someone posted a link from reddit...an other guy is having the same issue as me..3 hours ago..i just posted on reddit aswel

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:00:51 pm
content: Quote from: UnijunctionTransistor on October 14, 2025, 09:57:07 pmtoo tired to go back check who did i call any name. i didnt call anyone names im pretty sure.now, seems like there are more guys with the same issue i see in other forums..

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:02:53 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 10:00:51 pmLinks? Preferably not from disposable accounts created today.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:07:45 pm
content: Ok, so only one other report from a disposable account created today? I'll wait for more before I do anything differently.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:09:48 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 14, 2025, 10:07:45 pmwait bro. i dont know if its disposable account. all i know and im happy is at least there are more people with the same issue.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:11:37 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 14, 2025, 10:07:45 pmand by the way his account wasnt created today but 8 months ago (reddit Stock_Swimmer_1688 )

author: aeg
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:27:53 pm
content: https://jlcpcb.com/help/article/instructions-for-reselling-idle-components

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:29:36 pm
content: Quote from: aeg on October 14, 2025, 10:27:53 pmthanks bro. i appreciate you are trying to help while others have stockholm syndrome.unfortunatelly I cannot resell them to jlcpcb but they have to be bought untill 13 december from other users..which is impossible..after that day they lock my account and i lose my money..

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:33:13 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 10:29:36 pmWhat is this if not calling names?

author: squadchannel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:37:31 pm
content: You seem to have quite a bit of anger toward JLC. calm down. stay cool.in this forum (as in any forum), insulting others is grounds for a ban.It's unreasonable to blame JLC when we don't even know if this issue stems from them or the government.I won't go so far as to call it a scam.I've had good experiences with JLC every time. shipping is only $2/$1.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:39:43 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 14, 2025, 10:33:13 pmscrolling up again i dont see any name or adjective.to the next guy:i had good experiences for 4 years also. otherwise i wouldnt mention i have been using them for 4 years.your shipping to japan might be 1usd. for me dhl its 50PS i dont care about bans..i have a life. also as long as people see this post and stop buying parts from them for the inventory its good enough for me.PS2 if someone takes personally something i threw in the air and it wasnt strictly addressed to him then oh maybe he should look at the mirror and think

author: squadchannel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:48:08 pm
content: @JLCPCB Officialalso frequently visits this forum, so you should get a reply within a few hours.

author: velosssvl
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 11:52:49 pm
content: Hello everyone in this forum. I just got the same ban warning from JLCPCB, went on google and found this forum. Here is my chat transcript:Hello,I received this message, why my account is being blocked?-we are sorry that after a thorough review by our Risk Control Team, we are sorry to inform you that your account will be disabled due to the compliance review failureWhat did I do wrong?-and I apologize that we are unable to provide further details at this time, hope for your kind understanding-oh this is due to compliance policy, nothing wrong with your account but we are sorry that we are unable to provide detailsI need to know at least something. Is it government regulation or your company policy?-let me confirm this with our team, please hold on-thank you for your patience, we truly apologize but we are unable to provide more details and cannot confirm this at this timeCan I create New order now before december 13?-you should be able to place new order but would you mind to try if there is no error when placing the order? thank youOne more question. Can I create new account-we are sorry that we cannot guarantee that creating new account will resolve the issue as at this time we are unable to confirm or provide further details, but the account suspension is due to compliance policy, we hope for your kind understandingGovernment compliance?-I truly apologize I am unable to confirm this and our team cannot provide more detailssay "I hope this helps" if it is Yes-i truly apologize

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 04:21:13 am
content: So jeschris are you still convinced that the messsge you received was because you bought a stencil?

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 05:42:42 am
content: Quote from: Bud on October 15, 2025, 04:21:13 amAt least its better assumption than believing im a spy.Dont you think?I mean you guys adapted english but you never really studied it.I was never convinced for anything but only for the fact i didnt so anything illegal.Fyi I just called you names without typing them.

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 06:49:36 am
content: Just got the same message. Email thread keeps going in circles, "We've been informed that no further review details have been provided at this time.", no contact with anyone competent.Have been ordering regularly with no issues before this, last order a couple months ago.I'm definitely not on any government lists, since I've also been ordering things directly from many suppliers with no complaints, including other PCB houses that, apparently, I'll have to switch to now.I'll keep hammering their email to get some kind of meaningful response, or maybe just make a new account and see if it's some kind of stupid automatic flag.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 06:54:05 am
content: Quote from: Spirit532 on October 15, 2025, 06:49:36 amNow some people in this forum will start accusing you for1. Being me?2. You only have 492 posts3. You are a spy4. You are terrorist5. ...As I said i did nothing illegal so it couldnt be just me the problem.Posted here to raise awarness but people suffering from Stockholm syndrome and people hoping for coupons couldnt see the truth.Im sorry for you also bro, im happy tho its not just me so there might be a solution..I lost my money for the hundreds of parts in the inventory.Did you lose any money from these scammers?

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 07:02:32 am
content: Fortunately no money lost here, but unless they actually solve the issue, they're going to lose out on a lot of future business.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 07:08:46 am
content: Quote from: Spirit532 on October 15, 2025, 07:02:32 amOn top of that, just got my little design accepted by other pcb manufacturer..spoke to them about the issue i had with jlcpcb and confirmed no issues from their side with me or with their design.Didnt want to pay and then face same thing again..Seems like some sort of bs from jlcpcb banning accounts not too profitable to them and change of business plan or just some new chinese software screwing everyone with their glitches

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 07:18:00 am
content: ......I need to know at least something. Is it government regulation or your company policy?-let me confirm this with our team, please hold on-thank you for your patience,we truly apologize but we are unable to provide more details and cannot confirm this at this time......This is EXACTLY the boilerplate lawyer talk when there is some government compliance issue.They are not allowed to tell you why.But you will believe what you believe..It took me exactly 2 seconds to find this:https://lexchina.org/chinas-sweeping-export-compliance-overhaul-navigating-new-realities-for-global-supply-chains-effective-october-1-2025/Sounds suspiciously coincidental.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 07:24:20 am
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 15, 2025, 07:18:00 amWith all the respect but you dont know how things work. You cant understand that companies will never tell you the reason even if its from their part because you could blame them etc etc etcAlthough if it was just a new regulation they would say BECAUSE OF A NEW LAW WE ARE UNABLE TO SERVE YOU.Its no secret china has new regulations etc . It wouldnt hurm the company say because of the new regulations etc etcBut saying nothingAND AT THE SAME TIME STEALING PEOPLES MONEYmakes it clear to EVERYONE theres no law violated, theres no regulation or any UFOs behindProbably just a new ai software or change of business plan.Keep trying you might get more coupns but i doubt. Tens of people with the same issue as me.Go on reddit read comments etc.work harder bro

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 07:28:56 am
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 15, 2025, 07:18:00 amThat would make sense if it was everyone, but not a single one of my other suppliers said anything about this. And you can still go to PCBWay, NextPCB or whatever other quick turn service and place an order right now.Got literally the same copy&paste email response for the third time in a row. Still trying to reach a human who can use other buttons on the keyboard.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 07:31:52 am
content: Quote from: Spirit532 on October 15, 2025, 07:28:56 amI think this guy is a bot also hahaJokes asside, i said the same i made new orders with other manufacturer no issues.. and asked other manufacturer about any possible issues they said no problems with my gerber files, no problems with me.This guy in the forum here refuses to see the truth.For a reason, every coupon matters

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 08:14:04 am
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 15, 2025, 07:31:52 amAnd you are something else. It has been absolutely horrifying to have met you. Good luck with your delusional crusade, insulting anybody that does not agree with you. That is going to work well for you..

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 08:26:03 am
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 15, 2025, 08:14:04 amAlready worked well . And way better than be a slave minded like you. Accepting being robbed

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 08:57:00 am
content: New email from the scanmers.Quote

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 09:22:44 am
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 14, 2025, 10:02:53 pmQuoteis this account with thousands of posts good enough for you or still not? or maybe you will accuse me now for hacking his account to post on his behalf?typical propaganda..you had good teachers apparentyhe got same email as me.

author: rteodor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 09:25:37 am
content: For western TEM manufacturers, limitations were imposed gradually company by company: KS then RS. And before I think it was some other too. Who knows who will be next but it can be guessed by the importance in the market. Could it be that the Chinese are mirroring the same behavior ?

author: squadchannel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 10:22:30 am
content: @JLCPCB Officialseems to have visited this topic several times today, but we still haven't received a response.I believe this isn't JLCPCB's decision, possibly the government. It likely pertains to a country subject to government export restrictions.if it is government export restrictions, other fabs like PCBWay might also become unusable.We need to wait for further announcements.looking at Reddit, it seems like people all over the world(specific country?) are getting caught up in this issue.I can only hope I don't get caught up in it too.

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 10:27:37 am
content: I'm just going to tell everyone I know to avoid JLCPCB from now on because of this cryptic stonewalling. Plenty of other manufacturers who are far more welcoming, if a little bit more expensive.If you do somehow end up on an export control list, no one is prohibited from telling you that you are, because the lists are public in almost every country, lol.It's probably some misunderstood export directive making JLC management specifically go into a panic and shoot themselves in the foot in the dumbest way possible.Also unlikely to be related to a specific country, unless I got mistakenly lumped in - or they're going to stop all exports to the EU, and that'll bereallydumb.

author: sfg
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 11:19:45 am
content: I've been hit with exactly the same thing. This morning. Same message. I have 1200$ of parts in my JLCPCB inventory.They say I need to organise "my" chinese freight forwarder to pick that up if I want it lol!So this is NOT a unique case.I cannot think of a single reason why I might be deemed a "risk", so again it seems like some sort of error, but they don't seem to think they can do anything about it.Getting chatgpt to write a fierce letter asserting whatever rights it is able to formulate for me, and will take it from there. This is at the very least very expensive - all our systems are set up with JLCPCB part numbers, there are PCB designs in my account ready to go when we need stock... VERY annoying and as I say also without any reason I can imagine.

author: sfg
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 11:22:17 am
content: Hang on - I see the OP has Greece showing as country. Same as me. I wonder whether that's the 'reason' in our case?? Just a thought!

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 11:40:37 am
content: I'm not in Greece but also in the EU, and I saw people from NL saying they got the same thing. So only one common denominator for now.

author: rteodor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 12:05:17 pm
content: Quote from: Spirit532 on October 15, 2025, 10:27:37 amWell, I've been told not to query those lists at random but only when needed. No reason but a hint that even list look-up are taken in consideration when compiling the list. That were the instructions before infamous "World List" used by banks every midnight was leaked by hackers. Yes that list was secret.Anyway what happens now smells a bit beyond export control. My bet is on political pressure for reasons that usually become obvious long after the facts. So keep dusting those etching tanks boys! Just in case.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 12:06:54 pm
content: Since they can deliver your stocked components somewhere else, but only inside China, this looks like some new export regulation from China. Wild guess, it is probably in exchange to the current economic war and tariffs imposed by USA, or maybe rare earth exports ban.The lack of any reason/explanation from JLCPCB makes me think this is because the Chinese law doesn't allow them to provide any details.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 12:12:36 pm
content: Quote from: RoGeorge on October 15, 2025, 12:06:54 pmNot really. They (jlcpcb) do not have license to export components. LCSC does.That was always like this.. its not something new.The new thing is how scammers they turned to be

author: alebrune
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 12:27:05 pm
content: New here,just to comment that we received the same email from jlc, when asking for more details these were denied.We operate as a business and we have a company, I am not disclosing the company details here. However, we have now some need of a reliable partner to make pcbs. We are currently based in Europe/Belgium, do you have any suggestions/experience?We do PCB+Assembly.Thank you

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 12:32:54 pm
content: Quote from: alebrune on October 15, 2025, 12:27:05 pmPCBWay is a bit more expensive but quite reliable and more capable, if you want to stay in China.For low cost prototypes in Europe, look at Aisler.For mass production in Europe, look at Wurth/WEDirekt. Expensive at the prototype scale(but they do offer it), competitive in high volumes, and Wurth can customize basically anything for you, even components inside PCBs and whatnot. Although I think they don't offer assembly themselves, only through partners.Used all three. No complaints.

author: sfg
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 02:02:25 pm
content: I was considering Eurocircuits as the next option. Anyone have any experience how they compare to the other european alternatives?The JLCPCB business from today is even worse than I thought: they now tell me I cannot place any more orders either, so I can't even use up the parts inventory that way. And not every manufacturer will accept a delivery of parts inventory from the customer, so I may effectively have lost 1200$ in parts (we can't use SMD parts in our lab, not really).

author: exe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 03:51:57 pm
content: I'm with OP. I think some guys tried too hard to impose own opinion. The dude lost time and money, show some compassion.As of jlcpcb, we considered them for a large project, hundreds of boards initial order, ideally partner with them for tens of thousands if things go well. Now things got very complicated, as they ban clients and don't explain reasons. Potentially, any other Chinese company can do the same.I'm also interested in a European alternative, although I don't think there is any in terms of price/convenience. So, for mass production of non-special devices (e.g., military), Asia / India / etc are the only viable options, imo.But even if I can swallow the european pcb pricing, but what about parts? In jlcpcb I can order parts with pcb and assembly. In aisler I see I need to get back and forth with their project manager, and then there is at least 15euro fee per part (hope that includes setup fee, not just procurement fee). I guess we have to live with that.I think in terms of convenience jlcpcb nailed it, there is a lot to catch up by competitors.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 04:09:31 pm
content: How did we cope before the likes of jlcpcb and its like come along?

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 04:47:31 pm
content: It is really not on JLC though. They really can't give you the reason, since it will give you an instant idea of how to workaround it. I can guarantee you the same exact thing happens in Western companies, the ban lists are just a bit different.This is just the cost of doing business. Let's say you get banned like this and loose $1000 worth of components and boards. Is this cheaper than paying for the same but in a place that you think is friendlier? If so, then just accept the risk.

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 04:49:50 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 15, 2025, 04:47:31 pmYeah. Use a reshipping service. Dozens of them around, some will even order on JLC for you. I'll stop short of linking directly to them, but it's trivial to find.This isn't about working around regulations, it's how they treat existing, fully above-board customers whodon'tviolate anything.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 04:53:13 pm
content: Again, the same exact thing happens in western companies. It sucks, but it is not JLC that wants to do that, it is their government that makes them do it. And realistically no government is better here, all of them have similar regulations.Even if you use a reshipper, you would need to come up with fake account info for the order. And a different payment method not tied to that company/person. And if you can do that, you don't need a reshipper. Assuming they did not ban the whole country, which does not seem to be the case here.

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 05:02:05 pm
content: If their government wanted to stop select random people from ordering PCBs, I'd be immediately banned from every single quick turn online platform. Yet here I am, discussing a project with PCBWay.This is entirely on JLC, because as mentioned, this is more likely management freaking out and doing things in a panic. Maybe some AI trash is involved too, given that it seems... random?Again, it's the way they handled it.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 05:56:21 pm
content: Quote from: themadhippy on October 15, 2025, 04:09:31 pmWe used a local PCB house -£50-£150 tooling plus tens of pounds per board, in a couple of weeks. 3x cost if you wanted 4 layers.And then struggled to find an assembly house that was small enough to be interested in small/1-off batches, but not so small they go tits-up when they lose their main customer or the owner retires.And when you do find a good one, it's £150 for the stencil £50-200 for setup, then maybe 2-5p per placement. And 3 weeks typical leadtime. if you wanted, they could source parts aof a 10% markup, else you sent them kits.And forget about anyting fancy like flex - outlines were die-cut before lasers were used, so huge setup costs and basically inacessible to us mere mortals. .

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 10:35:11 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 15, 2025, 04:53:13 pmIf its not them wanting to do that then they would REFUND!!!!!!!!!!

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 10:51:23 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 15, 2025, 10:35:11 pmBank transactions with restricted entities are also prohibited. This is the whole point of restrictions.If you want to risk it, you can create a second account and buy the parts from the first one. And hope that second account is not flagged.They really don't gain much by holding small (for them) amounts of money like this.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 11:00:03 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 15, 2025, 10:51:23 pmScam 10000 customers for 2k parts each.Thats already 20.000.000 usd.Im pretty sure they gain a lot.Scammers.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 11:05:53 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 15, 2025, 11:00:03 pmimage if they scammed a billion customers, then they would have 2 trillion usd, come on ...

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 11:56:04 pm
content: Quote from: sfg on October 15, 2025, 11:19:45 amIf purchased recently, perhaps a card chargeback might be an option ?

author: exe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 07:26:07 am
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 15, 2025, 11:09:46 pmWith due respect, I believe those politic games are the reason we, end users, suffer. Instead of retaliation banning and keep damaging each other, I'd hope for the opposite: lift the bans from both sides.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 07:28:43 am
content: Quote from: exe on October 16, 2025, 07:26:07 amThey stole my money and many others money. This isnt political. This is scamAlso i didnt mean whole china i meant jlcpcb

author: rteodor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 07:38:44 am
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 15, 2025, 11:00:03 pmIt is quite possible you never had to run any business.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 07:41:16 am
content: Quote from: rteodor on October 16, 2025, 07:38:44 amMy millions disagree

author: exe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 07:56:07 am
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 16, 2025, 07:28:43 amI'd keep pressing them to reimburse. Politely, but persistently. Not calling them names, just regular business communication. Because employees who process your request won't get cent from your money, but they may make a decision in your favor. Those money are peanuts for the company, they are loosing much more on reputational losses, and they know it.

author: unseenninja
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 08:22:50 am
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 16, 2025, 07:59:19 amIs this more good advice that ChatGPT gave you?

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 08:30:31 am
content: Quote from: unseenninja on October 16, 2025, 08:22:50 amMore good less good too good..thats it. Lets see.I would like to see what would be your response if you lose money. JavlaBeing too week to defend yourself or understand when someone defends himself is a cultural thing i guess. Dont worry, nato is gonna help you from now on

author: rteodor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 08:40:59 am
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 16, 2025, 07:59:19 amI can see potential for trouble if this develops further. How many contracts, EU specific, could be affected by such a ban ?LE: Business contracts, to be more specific.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 08:44:41 am
content: Quote from: rteodor on October 16, 2025, 08:40:59 amWe will see.. unless they change their attitude and give refunds

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 01:34:39 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 16, 2025, 07:41:16 amYou have millions and you are whining about $1000? It is a cost of doing business, get over it.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 02:03:00 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 16, 2025, 01:34:39 pmThe fact i have way more money means i need to be robbed?How about you give me these money?

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 02:52:46 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 16, 2025, 01:34:39 pmThere is such a thing as doing it on principle. For example, there are people who spent way more money on fighting civil asset forfeiture in USA than unfairly confiscated money was. Well knowing they won't be able to recover those expenses and will be at more loss than just doing nothing. Or for example fighting patent trolls. Most companies would just give like $20k ransom for them to go away. But some will spend millions on many years of litigation.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 03:37:33 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on October 16, 2025, 02:52:46 pm

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 03:49:41 pm
content: Does your product contain rare-earth materials ? then you are out fo luck. China has clamped down on that. Need licenses and things AS BUYER !Not JLCPCB fault. They need to comply to their laws. So do you when buying from them. Cost of international business.Case in point : Nexperia. Right now there is massive upheaval. Nexperia is owned by Wingtech ( A chinese company). The chinese government has blocked them from exporting parts from china. The problem is that many western companies (notably european car makers) use nexperia parts (nexperia was NXP was Philips .. so they still think it is dutch owned. it is NOT !)Yesterday the Dutch government had to step in an re-acquire the company.https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/16/business/nexperia-netherlands-us-china.htmlhttps://www.economist.com/business/2025/10/16/the-dutch-seize-control-of-nexperia-from-its-chinese-ownerhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgk21nng0voThere are no shipments of nexperia parts coming from china. The stocks in europe are depleting fast and those companies using the parts in full-on panic as their lines will grind to a halt.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:03:01 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on October 16, 2025, 03:49:41 pmTheres a button called ISSUE REFUND.Its scary to see western people who are running businesses and have opinions like this.. i would not like to be your customer. Not personally you but anyone here with these opinions as expressed in this post.Go on tell us your business names

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:08:58 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 16, 2025, 04:03:01 pmthere may be buttons all you want. It is only a request. Chinese law says "denied". grow up

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:10:59 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on October 16, 2025, 04:08:58 pmChinese law says denied to refunds?Can you show me where is this written or its just an other american fake new?

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:12:08 pm
content: I'm not sure it is related to the rare earth materials. Not selling components containing them is one thing, but closing accounts because of that does not seem justified.How would you even know if a specific component is affected?

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:39:20 pm
content: JLC issued a note on thishttps://jlcpcb.com/blog/notice-of-limited-account-access-restrictionsQuoteThey claim you can get a full refund for the account balance. But I guess this may be different for purchased parts.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:42:32 pm
content: Rare earth metals are only one thing. There are other factors too. i don't know all of them but right now things are very problematic. This is a geopolitical / geoeconomical battle being fought at world level and there is a lot of damage being done. Especially for smaller companies.There's a lot of uncertainty in other aspects too. Package handlers like DHL/Fedex/UPS and even post offices don't know how to deal with the paperwork. Certain countries are putting up barriers against what is called "dumping commerce" like Shein, Temu that are flooding the markets with cheap stuff shipped at laughable rates. They send a packet from china to your door for less than the cost of the paper the stamp is printed on. You try sending the same packet to china and see what you will pay to your post office. And we're not even looking at customs declaration and other paperwork + costs.The holding depots of UPS are so full with stuff waiting to get through the additional scrutiny that they have started destroying packages.https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/ups-delay-customs-tariffs-packages-destroyed-rcna236607France has laws against outfits like Shein:https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/land-use-biodiversity/french-senate-backs-law-curb-ultra-fast-fashion-2025-06-10/Sooner or later this thing had to burst. And the outfall will be a disaster.i don't like it either. i had several projects i wanted to run at jlcpcb... i'm contemplating to put them back in the drawer.@jeschrisChinese law says you cannot do x-y-z anymore from now on. JLCPCB is a chinese company that has to abide by chinese law. IF they make a law that says they can no longer sell to you , for whatever reason, than that's it. If they also make a rule that no bank transactions can be done then your money is stuck. Your only option would be to fly to china, pick up your product at the door and cash in the cheque . Which, by the way is what they told you IS an option.If your government decides they are going to put in a new road and need to bulldoze your house, what are you going to do ? yell at the guy with the bulldozer or the government ? It's not the bulldozer drivers fault.Same here.I hear you, it is annoying and frustrating but a battle against government rules is very tough. My last shipments from JLCPCB arrived last week but the cost doubled due to tariffs. Nothing i can do. Either i buy the boards locally at 1500$ and 2 weeks , or get them in one week for 65$ + 90$ in tariffs.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:44:56 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 16, 2025, 04:39:20 pmAlex,https://jlcpcb.com/help/article/components-pickup-pricingBest,

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:48:27 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 16, 2025, 04:44:56 pmNo, I get that. But the reason I bought parts from JLC is because I wanted to use JLC for assembly. If this is no longer possible, I would want to get a full refund.Until parts are delivered or populated on the boards, this purchase is purely virtual anyway.

author: chicken
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:51:19 pm
content: QuoteDid any of the impacted accounts use VPNs to access JLCPCB?

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:55:34 pm
content: It would not be VPNs in general, may be some specific ones. I use VPN all the time, and certainly placed multiple orders using VPN.It is likely a combination of factors anyway. And people doing sketchy stuff are not going to admit that they are doing it.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 04:59:46 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on October 16, 2025, 04:44:56 pmThey mention they cannot export components. But they can export assembled boards. I've seen this before. They don't have the export license for components.A component is classified differently from an assembly (export rules). Once a component is fixed to a board it is "consumed".There are some weird rules with parts that were imported first, put on a board and re-exported. Let's say you buy a TI part, made in US , assembled in US. you ship that to chine to go in a subassembly that will come back. You need to file different specific paperwork depending if the part will- return unused- be placed in an assembly in china for use in china- be placed in an assembly in china for use outside china.The last one is even more tricky as they discriminate if it goes back to the original maker / vendor or goes on to someone else.TI sending a part to china to be assembled and shipped back to them is different paperwork form TI shipping a part to china to be assembled and delivered to general motors.It is difficult to navigate all these rules . Sending a naked chip to be packaged in china: they had to come back. You could not ship-on to the end customer. That is considered a transfer of ownership. If you have work done in china on your property ( the chips) and they are returned to you there is no import/export duty on your part, only on the work. If you send them on to your end customer that is considered a sale and there are duties to be paid. Those rules can be very complicated and require experts to navigate them.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 05:05:40 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on October 16, 2025, 04:48:27 pmUnless jlcpcb has bought those parts and keeps them in stock. Long lead time parts for example. or parts not regularly stocked by them.Parts pre-bought are yours. They are acquired and stored in their warehouse. You can consume them (by having boards assembled with them), or ask them to be handed over to you. Since they do not have an export license for "parts" , only for boards and assemblies (read their post : it clearly states mainland china only , and the fact they do not have a license), your only option is to go and pick them up.Maybe there are aggregators or shipping forwarders that can do this. pick up at their warehouse, file paperwork and export using their license."Delivery is limited to addresses within mainland China via express shipping, with freight payable upon delivery. Export under our company’s name is strictly prohibited; we reserve the right to pursue legal responsibility for any violations."Rules of international business. Read the fine print and know the rules.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 05:17:22 pm
content: ^Even if they cannot export them, and supposedly cannot return the money, service fee ransom to hand them over is total bullshit. It's like, we are screwing you, give us more money to reduce your losses.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 05:29:36 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on October 16, 2025, 05:17:22 pmDebatable. Depends on how what they charge. A handling fee is not unheard of. 30$ to collect all your parts and put them in a box is not excessive. Unless of course your parts are two reels of resistors worth 3$... then you write that off as a loss.They don't charge you rent for all the time your parts took up space in their warehouse ... someone has to do the legwork to collect them and wrap them up. they are not a part distributor. their logistics works differently.If the parts leave their warehouse that means they will not assemble boards with them, so it is a loss for them as well.There's always two sides in business.

author: UnijunctionTransistor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 05:35:07 pm
content: I have an acquaintance that works as an international freight forwarder at a medium-large US port. He tells me that international commerce is really going to hell, and his personal opinion is that it is going to become worse before things settle down.I also have a relative who purchases electronics components for a large US corporation. He mentioned that everything, even trivial things like coaxial cables or connectors, have seen their availability severely disrupted.We are witnessing a World trade Götterdämmerung.We knew all this was going to happen when Trump decided to go into this trade war.

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 05:49:48 pm
content: The problem with all of these comments saying it's an export restriction is... no one else is doing it.You can still go on PCBWay, NextPCB, ALLPCB. All of them still ship fine. None of my accounts there are gone.It's a nice justification but it'd only be true if everyone else reacted the same way.Don't give JLC the benefit of the doubt here.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 05:53:20 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on October 16, 2025, 05:29:36 pmOP said they ask 30%, not $30. Not to say they are those who made the decision on particular customer. Imposing fees customer did not agree to and with no other means to get a refund or their property is fraud.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 05:57:29 pm
content: Quotemaybe jlcpcb are being efficient giving you 2 months warning and it will trickle down through the other suppliers as the dead line for whatever change has been imposed gets closure

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 06:05:14 pm
content: yeah. 30% is excessive...As for other companies still doing it : they may have different export licenses , or those may just be bare boards. there could be many factors.i'm not defending JLCPCB or anyone else here. I'm just saying there is more going on than simply "they shut me down". A company is not going to cut out a customer for whatever.There is something at play we are not aware of. Most likely an outflow of the current geopolitical / geoeconomical state.Look at Nexperia. The dutch government ousted the chinese owners and took control of the company. China reaction -> export license revoked. Nothing from nexperia leaves china. They don't care if this inconveniences large companies. They care that it DOES inconvenience LARGE companies that go to their government and start complaining.JLC is still doing business with many others and is not going to jeopardize their license to export boards and assemblies out of china. They would go bankrupt.Sometimes there will be colatteral damage and there may be some customers inconvenienced. But the company will survive. They are not in business to please the last person in the world that happens to buy 100 boards from them. they have 100000 other customers.

author: jeschris
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 08:08:33 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on October 16, 2025, 06:05:14 pmThis is not a political thing.China has every right to do whatever they want in their territory.The companies though have no right to steal peoples money.Jlcpcb did what they did while other manufacturers were more honest.So its not China's fault for us losing our money. Its this company's decisions.There is no Chinese law preventing them from refunding us.I never said the whole company is a scam.Me and other people were using them for years with and without complaints BUT at this time they decided to take our money/parts(property) with no explanation.You want to defend them and keep using them? Do it.But when shit hits the fun don't say you did not know.Honesty either from people or companies is way more important than 5usd less in pcb fabrication.I would prefer to pay more but do it by knowing i pay more instead of paying less and then lose my money.Thats all from my side.I raised awareness by telling people what happened to me.Some accused me for doing illegal stuff, violating law, rules etc.When more people came up sharing similar stories some of you were saying that they are 0 day posters meaning it was me posting more timesIve seen in reddit users saying they got the same email minutes or hours before paying for huge orders.I would not blame China for this. They introduced new rules and laws yes. But they do not block refunds...because jlcpcb said balance can be refunded but not inventory...thats NOT political. That's a choice by this company.Goodbye every one and good luckI wish them every single dollar that belonged to me to spend it in doctors.Ciao

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 08:13:59 pm
content: Quote from: jeschris on October 16, 2025, 08:08:33 pmBalance refund yes. that is just numbers in a bank.Inventory . Those are physical goods. They have been purchased and are in their warehouse. they stored them until you needed more boards with these parts.They are your property. You can get them . They can't ship em to you because they don't have the license for that. (LCSC does, JLCPCB doesn't) but you are free to go pick em up or use a dropshipper or forwarder.Read the terms and conditions.

author: exe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 08:29:16 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on October 16, 2025, 08:13:59 pmI'm a bit skeptical about this part. They are part of LCSC or whatever. They can just put parts back to the shelf, if they want. So, they have all the possibilities to resolve the problem.I believe there was even the procedure for LCSC to return parts. However, checking now they say they don't accept returns. Hmm... Did they change that recently?UP: I'd also assume they don't really keep a big stock of ordered items. It makes more sense to "reserve" them in warehouse. Because imagine how many things people are ordering, and how many left-overs there. I won't be surprised if most popular components they just supply on-demand.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 09:07:05 pm
content: ^Yes, LCSC and JLCPCB are basically the same company. They have the same login and you get a shipping discount at LCSC while PCBs are in production at JLCPCB. In the past they combined PCB and component orders but switched to that due to some legal problem with export. They should not have any significant problem returning those components to common LCSC stock, if they were ever separated from it or ever left LCSC warehouse at all.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 09:36:27 pm
content: That could eb true for commodity snot like resistors and caps. but others... not much so. look at the stock on some parts. a few hundred to a few thousand. Where others are hundreds of thousands.If you order assembly they pool parts in "Basic" and "extended". Basic parts apparently are always on their assembly line. They are invariably asian brands.Prebuying such commodity is typically not done. those things are available from many sources. Prebuying is done for parts that only you use and are not in that "standard" catalogue.Why would you spend 3$ a reel on a bunch of resistors ?I think that's the OP's problem : he prebought parts that only he uses. so JLCPCB goes : we have no use for them , and we probably won't be able to shift them. they'll just sit in our warehouse, eating up space till the cows come home. So they want them off their hands. Set and end date. If they are not gone by then -> garbage.Parts also have a shelf life. You can't keep them forever and a day.whatever it is, i agree it is annoying for the OP but there is little you can do in these situations. Some things are beyond control.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 10:19:59 pm
content: OP changed their country flag from Greece to Germany for whatever reason.Agree that 30% is high, they seem to have a resell service and no fee is mentioned:https://jlcpcb.com/help/article/instructions-for-reselling-idle-componentsQuote from: ataradov on October 16, 2025, 04:12:08 pmI agree its likely notrare earth, but, it is interesting that OP mentioned using reed switches which do have rare earth magnets in them.LCSC still selling, which is fairly conclusive:https://www.lcsc.com/category/640.html

author: aeg
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 10:33:05 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on October 16, 2025, 04:42:32 pmYeah, and that's why JLCPCB is going to illegally keep doing x-y-z until December for customers who already have orders in process.If I had a nickel for every time someone told me "it's illegal" when the truth is "it's against policy" or "I don't want to", I'd have a bunch of nickels.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2025, 10:56:18 pm
content: Quote from: aeg on October 16, 2025, 10:33:05 pmIt matches closely to the grace period given in my link above: "Measure (3) above comes into effect immediately as of October 9, 2025, while Measures (1) and (2) abovewill have an implementation grace period until December 1, 2025.". Laws may be immediately implemented for security reasons, or they may not to allow companies time to react and not be left holding the bag. Nothing unusual there.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 12:45:31 am
content: https://jlcpcb.com/blog/notice-of-limited-account-access-restrictions

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 12:51:15 am
content: QuoteInteresting. CGNAT means many users will share IPs, not to mention the normal cycling that some ISPs do between customers.Perhaps they might also try to be region checking IP vs delivery addresses, and assuming that's an indicator of "high risk".

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 04:27:23 am
content: Quote from: exe on October 16, 2025, 08:29:16 pmI've been fighting this recently. Lcsc and jlcpcb treat their inventory as two separate companies. It's stupid but they do. Even a simple transfer is painful and takes many days.

author: squadchannel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 05:25:21 am
content: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/chinese-owners-kicked-out-of-nexperia/msg6070849/#msg6070849https://www.nexperia.com/about/news-events/press-releases/update-on-company-developmentsOctober 14, 2025Nexperia says:Quotewas there really a need to ban over the Nexperia issue?

author: Spirit532
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 05:30:28 am
content: That's such a weak non-response to the whole thing. "Risky" - what does that even mean?If it's IPs, CGNAT covers basically the entire world. So maybe not that.IPs and order location? Maybe? I've been using a nearby country VPN, but both are reputable.Payment methods? Used a company credit card with a different name on it. Maybe that? But it matched the company name, and the delivery address...None of the stuff ordered was spooky in any way, and I've made a good number of orders.And if it's a "small amount of users", maybe talk to them, ask them questions and clear the accounts that can explain it and verify that they're not "risky"?I have no problems providing ID and verifying payment methods, delivery addresses and intended applications.

author: fbrozovic
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 18, 2025 06:05:43 am
content: Quote from: Spirit532 onYesterdayat 05:30:28 amI agree. We're a business and after inquiring about the reason, received the same copy-paste canned response which someone posted here already. By the looks of it, I'm starting to doubt that it's something government-mandated, but rather JLCPCB policy. It wouldn't be such a big issue if they were willing to accept documentation to clear things up, which we would be more than happy to provide.On Reddit, I've seen a couple posts suspecting that the bans were only handed to accounts which ordered PCBA in the past - has anyone who only ever ordered blank PCBs received the same email? We have our own manufacturing line, so I would say about 95% of our orders were blank PCBs with very occasional small quantities of PCBA...

author: nuclearcat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 18, 2025 06:29:23 am
content: I'm affected by this as well, and my story might provide some useful context.1)My purchases were unremarkable - basic ESP32 stuff: temperature and humidity sensors, a few battery monitoring boards for my solar system. All told, fewer than 10 units. These are exactly the kinds of orders that shouldn't raise any red flags. So it is not orders.2)I started with DHL, but their pricing here is inflated. When I tried to switch address (moved to village), DHL's system refused to accept my address - it kept rejecting the input. So I found an alternative: a shipping forwarder called Aramex ShopandShip. They're half the price, they accept uploaded invoices for customs clearance, and their staff is genuinely professional. It seemed like a solid solution. But forwarders might be red flag for some.3)My orders were placed using a Lebanese IP. These days, that shouldn't be a red flag - local law enforcement has done solid work against cybercrime here. But I understand how blanket bans happen: some companies conflate Lebanon with Libya, or lazy management sees a small country in a complicated region and just blocks the whole thing. It's reckless, but it happens.I've sent an appeal to JLCPCB, but if the ban stands, people will hear about my experience. I've been grateful enough to stay quiet about their issues before, but that changes if they don't. I'm not interested in staying silent anymore - I'll be honest about what happened, the real risks of dealing with them, and what others have experienced.The internet has a way of working: it doesn't take many voices speaking honestly to shift a company's reputation. That's just how it is.

author: RoGeorge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 09:02:21 am
content: Quote from: langwadt onYesterdayat 12:45:31 amFrom that announcement, I understand that it was an automated decision, not a decision made by a human:QuoteWTF is a risky IP address?! Who decides which address is risky, and on what criteria?Everybody should start asking for a complete ban of AI as a decision maker. In USA the AI denies health care, in China the AI denies you PCBs, and who knows what else you'd be denied tomorrow. And with no responsibility and no explanation.Why do we pay for governments and bureaucracy and a state of law, if we let ourselves governed by machine decisions, decisions that have no explanation, and no responsibility attached to them, and no way of appeal?!

author: ViktorR
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 18, 2025 01:15:07 pm
content: It seems these account suspensions are happening on a large scale. I live in Ecuador and develop circuit boards for home automation. I usually order small batches — around 10 to 20 boards at a time — and everything was fine until yesterday, when I suddenly discovered that my account had been blocked.There’s absolutely no reason for this — it looks like they’re just shooting in the dark. It’s impossible to get any clear explanation from their support team. This kind of behavior shows a complete lack of respect for customers and seriously damages their reputation.To make matters worse, my electronic components are now stuck in their warehouse.

author: bogdanpatlun
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 18, 2025 02:05:10 pm
content: Guess Slovakia joins the party.I have been fighting for a week to get my account unbanned - and at least ask what we have done wrong - we were not doing war drones or missiles - and after countless emails I have recieved a response that "ban criteria is confidential, if we revoke it we will notify you"Have a bit of balance there and components worth a few hundreds and have to agree to their 30% scam rate to ship components. As if sending $0.3 IC is any different shipping $30 IC. Insanse. They dug their own grave.Guess have to give a chance to our local manufacturer in Kosice and bite the price.

author: temperance
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 02:10:07 pm
content: It is just the side effect of a minor trade war. It will be resolved soon. If not, you may soon be heading to the landfill with a shovel to dig up buried washing machines and televisions from a time when the word recycling wasn't invented yet. Nothing to worry about cough cough. And all that waste material had to be recycled anyhow.

author: gamalot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 02:18:16 pm
content: Quote from: Smokey onYesterdayat 04:27:23 amEven though they're closely related, LCSC and JLCPCB are legally independent companies.

author: JLC-Blacklist
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 18, 2025 02:23:52 pm
content: I got the same email and my account is locked from placing new orders. This is a major disruption for our business that's used jlcpcb for over five years. I'd have to look at the books, but we've probably spent a quarter million USD there. Thankfully I don't have any parts stored in their warehouse, but we used to.We do PCBA in smallish batches. As far as I know, we've done nothing wrong, never ordered anything suspicious. Maybe because I logged in while on vacation on a cruise ship via starlink?So what now? I'm looking at PCBway. Has anyone tried deleting their JLC account and making a new one?This sucks and we might miss a contract deadline because of JLC surprise closing my account.

author: FireBird
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 05:03:18 pm
content: Quote from: JLC-Blacklist onYesterdayat 02:23:52 pmAs long as it is not clear if this issue is JLCPCB specific or dictated by the government, you should avoid any Chinese company or you may lose even more time and money.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 05:19:10 pm
content: Quote from: bogdanpatlun onYesterdayat 02:05:10 pmIf they revoke it would you ever trust them again ?

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 07:50:34 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff onYesterdayat 05:19:10 pmI would, but may be make sure that you don't have a lot of money tied up with them at a time. This is a good idea anyway with any service.It does not matter if you loose $1000 randomly, you are still ahead if you are saving more in the time interval between those loses.And I would wait until December, there is a good chance others will follow with something like this and JLC is just made this public.

author: JLC-Blacklist
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 18, 2025 08:25:05 pm
content: I just spent a couple of hours preparing the BOM and CPL to submit a pcbway order. The price quoted is similar to jlcpcb but I guess i don't know what to expect from them about parts cost. In the notes I put the lcsc part number of each item. I assume they use lcsc?I don't have time to wait until Dec 13 and domestic vendors are priced out for me.

author: aeg
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2025 10:33:53 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on October 16, 2025, 10:56:18 pmQuote from: jeschris on October 14, 2025, 03:40:49 pm

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: «Reply #157 on:Todayat 07:09:16 am »
content: Quote from: Spirit532 onYesterdayat 05:30:28 amI would guess that use of a VPN per se might trigger a red flag. Whether the VPN provider is reputable or not, JLCPCB can no longer see the actual customer IP. Maybe the "enhanced compliance requirements" require them to check that IP address and use it to implement some embargo rules -- so they cannot serve customers who are "hiding" their country of origin.Edit: Or it might be use of a VPN in combination with other factors, like varying shipping addresses or email accounts? Just speculation, but a plausible one I think.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: «Reply #158 on:Todayat 09:07:27 am »
content: Quote from: rteodor on October 16, 2025, 08:40:59 amNo need to worry; OP is just rambling and fantasizing. No lawyer and no hundreds of thousands in whichever currency are involved here, I'm sure.

author: rteodor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: «Reply #159 on:Todayat 11:12:02 am »
content: Quote from: ebastler onTodayat 09:07:27 amNah, I'm not worried about that. jeschris is too emotional a.t.m.I am worried that in the short/medium term more domestic PCB makers (of which I try to use when I can) will get too much business and get away from the small clients. Manufacturing time will increase for sure. What will happen with prices ? Quality ?

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: «Reply #160 on:Todayat 11:22:12 am »
content: Quote from: rteodor onTodayat 11:12:02 amWell, we don't know whether the compliance-induced contract terminations affect large or small customers. In the case of the OP it was certainly small order volumes; moving a few of those to European suppliers should not create capacity problems there. Maybe being a large customer, and using always the same corporate shipping address, email address and internet access, already minimizes the risk of triggering a false compliance alert?On the other hand, JLCPCB themselves are not immune against the same risk of deteriorating quality -- maybe due to an overload in order volume or lack of skilled staff. We have seen several unexpected issues recently. Actually I would be more concerned about quality and potential price hikes if PCB manufacturing becomes a "mono-culture" dominated by just a couple of large suppliers.

author: idnihus
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: «Reply #161 on:Todayat 12:32:01 pm »
content: Interesting, I never received an email but when trying to place an order I got the following message:

author: mtwieg
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: «Reply #162 on:Todayat 02:18:45 pm »
content: This is quite extraordinary. Many more anecdotes popping up on Reddit as well, including some who claim to move large volumes of PCBAs . No clear pattern with regards to nationality, or nature of the PCBAs or parts used. Some report being told specifically by JLCPCB it's related to export controls, but most report getting zero clarification at all. So far I don't think anyone who only purchased PCBs (not PCBAs) has been affected.I doubt it's related to the rare earth restrictions. Maybe related to the Nexperia takeover?But it's clearly not a "scam" by JLCPCB. JLCPCB surely does not gain anything from this.