What's inside 2.1 Logitech speakers - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2022, 10:24:28 am
content: I wonder if there is a secret club of EE's who are tasked with purposely designing these horrible speaker systems.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2022, 12:40:38 pm
content: Sweat shop who are sitting with a manager who wants them to cut cost by 0.1c for every iteration of the board, and also cut cost by 1c for every revision of the mechanical, plus buy the cheapest parts.

author: mc172
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2022, 01:27:09 pm
content: Yeah they're horrible but I don't see what's dodgy about it, other than how he nearly cuts his fingers off several times. Some people don't care about sound quality and don't want to pay a lot of money or have large boxes taking up space, so these crappy but cheap systems serve a purpose. At least it comes with a sub.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2022, 02:34:13 pm
content: my ears ! and not because of the speaker ... well, not the logitech speaker ...

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2022, 09:03:52 pm
content: Disappointing and deceptive coming from Logitech.What a scam:Wouldn't it be better and cheaper just to leave it alone than to misrepresent it with fake speakers.

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2022, 09:40:54 pm
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on January 28, 2022, 09:03:52 pmYeah. I have to say that has really nuked my attitude towards Logitech. There is just so much that could have and should have been changed before manufacturing. I realise the product is just brand stamped, but still...

author: rob77
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2022, 09:59:39 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on January 28, 2022, 02:34:13 pmthat's because of the intonation and emphasis placement , some people find it annoying even when it's used in the specific accent of Czech language where it comes from

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2022, 10:01:57 pm
content: Quote from: rob77 on January 28, 2022, 09:59:39 pm"Bloody Hell!"

author: mc172
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2022, 10:07:06 pm
content: Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on January 28, 2022, 09:40:54 pmLike what?

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2022, 08:19:57 pm
content: It is mentioned on the box and specification:https://www.logitech.com/en-gb/products/speakers/z333-speaker-system-subwoofer.htmlQuoteGood they mention this but I still find it deceptivelookingand very stupid.I wonder how much money they would have saved by not implementing that fake rubbishThey say it is "bold" sounding.Doesn't sound very "bold" to me reading in the specifications that one speaker out of the two is just a decoration.

author: AVGresponding
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2022, 08:27:07 pm
content: Perhaps there are real tweeters on a more expensive version, and they are saving tooling costs by having one design of cabinet?

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2022, 08:08:50 pm
content: It seems unlikely. Would there be any advantage when they are still milling the recess at half depth rather than full depth? They could just miss out that step completely.It still smacks of hoping the customer will look at the picture rather than reading the print (probably a fairly successful strategy), and it still makes them look more impressive to the casual observer.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2022, 08:53:42 pm
content: You can get cheap unbranded speakers that actually do have working tweeters. Even the otherwise extremely horrible-sounding "white van scam" ones tend to have them.

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2022, 01:19:33 am
content: So Logitech figured out that they can do their own version of the "white van" scam, just like Beats or Bose.Quote from: Gyro on January 30, 2022, 08:08:50 pmCould be that the slightly higher end version uses piezo tweeters which are very thin.

author: John B
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2022, 01:46:35 am
content: Could be worse, the Toyota Supra is now full of fake air vents.

author: AVGresponding
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2022, 07:04:39 am
content: Quote from: Gyro on January 30, 2022, 08:08:50 pmBecause it's still cheaper to have just one line, and the milling step is going to be automated anyway. The hole for the wires on a hypothetical genuine tweeter model would be poked through by hand by the person fitting the tweeter.

author: Ed.Kloonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2022, 08:11:48 am
content: Quote from: AVGresponding on January 31, 2022, 07:04:39 amYeah. Drill laying around with a 1/4 bit in it. No worries.What annoys me is they prolly went to the trouble of getting a fake tweeter made for the lesser model.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2022, 08:24:16 am
content: That fake probably is an off the shelf part, as it is likely used by a good number of manufacturers of cheap tat, so as a part the first one who made a mould figured out they could make money running off a lot of copies and selling the excess, amortising their mould cost off faster.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2022, 07:21:13 pm
content: Quote from: AVGresponding on January 29, 2022, 08:27:07 pmIf that were the case, then there probably would be a hole to pass wires (otherwise that would still require two different machining). There isn't.