Restoration Fake & or Damaged Beyond Repair - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 11:11:16 am
content: one more video for yousee thisRestoration KENWOOD Cassette Deck X 76 Antique _ Rescue sound equipment Rusty RestoreI do not believe this video is a genuine restorationthis Dude could make a killing repairing high end electronics , if its was true!I think this video was re-edited in reverse, with the cassette deck been first seen in working order.with maybe some spot corrosion added on the metel at first. water soluble paint.then secondly the same cassette deck been in the video water damaged, even battery acid used to speed up corrosion on the metal.if this video is a genuine electronics restoration? I will be very very surprised.what do you think? my clue was the odd multimeter testing that was a bit too hard to believe.no spare parts, no new caps , orcan anyone debunk this video? how it was made.

author: austfox
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 11:39:27 am
content: I watched this a couple of days ago, and like you I was undecided on it’s authenticity.However, since then YouTube has been recommending me similar repair videos which all seem to have the same type of damage. Definitely deceiving, and you are probably correct that they have filmed it in reverse.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 01:58:46 pm
content: Me thinks two units may be involved - I don't believe the pristine state of that chassis as he's putting the board back in. No scratches and the plating miraculously restored. Things like the non-sealed motors wouldn't have survived either.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 02:45:25 pm
content: With them knowing where to go by car far out? and then putting the hose to clean it and I find it questionable.Whether it is a genuine or fake it seems to be like a lot of trouble and effort they put into making that video.See picture.Kenwood50945-132sp231100I wonder if that is the date stamp 23/11/2000.If that is the date stamp I wouldn't call it antique compared to many others that are decades older and I'd think they'd be wasting their time.

author: vwestlife
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 03:24:52 pm
content: This guy calls out all the restoration videos where the condition and location the item was "found" in was obviously staged and the attempt at "restoring" it is totally botched:

author: dnwheeler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 07:21:37 pm
content: There are a ton of fake restoration videos (and channels) on YouTube. Some are very obvious by their application of mud, and very light surface rust. In some cases, they are simply cleaning - in others they are swapping out all (yes, all) the parts for new ones off camera.

author: andy3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 07:47:16 pm
content: May be we can send him all our old stuff to sell and make a profit! At least, he does not have to go scrounging in garbage dumps!The cassette doors were open when he picked it up but the interior of the compartment was surprisingly clean and one could see the green rectangular thing between the take up and feed in. Bloody genius!

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 07:55:00 pm
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on January 17, 2020, 02:45:25 pm722k views is probably a pretty good reason (I've no idea how much that would net them).

author: vwestlife
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 08:33:50 pm
content: There are tons of fake cooking and crafting videos on YouTube, too. Most of them come from content farms in Ukraine. This channel gives them the EEVblog/Thunderf00t-style "BUSTED!" videos they deserve:

author: MadTux
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 09:58:35 pm
content: Fixing an old vacuum tube radio or waterproof military radio after some time in water maybe. That one, no way and totally fake.After spending some time in water, the switch contacts would be gone, water ingression into chip packages, corrosion on mechanics/bearings, rotten enamel wire on variable inductors/transformer..... One of those and that dude would have never fixed it with his poor tools.Not to mention, owning an $80k Tesla and fixing $20 junk, his funny DMM&soldering iron, poor soldering skills, random poking with probes, that doesn't add up. Makes good youtube money, however and about 80% of population is dumb enough to believe itBTW, anyone wants to learn on how to TIG weld from that scammer?https://youtu.be/5D0DZHHoh3c?t=272

author: Domagoj T
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 11:10:42 pm
content: Is he's dunking the tungsten into the puddle on each bead? I'd chuck that propeller overboard. The weld looks porous even on the surface. The interior has got to be the spongiest thing ever.

author: MadTux
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2020, 11:40:19 pm
content: Quote from: Domagoj T on January 17, 2020, 11:10:42 pmLooks like it, but I guess the "welding" is fake as well. No way he gets a nice puddle after a couple of milliseconds arc time, the welding beats don't look conistent with the "welding technique". Couple of spot welds don't give a big puddle cooling pattern like seen at 5:48 on the right:https://youtu.be/5D0DZHHoh3c?t=348I guess, it's like a composite, "broken" part, somewhat competently welded part overlay and fake welding over that, with both pictures merged at the welding point. No idea why, but can't explain it otherwise.Futhermore, the welding puddle cooling pattern at 5:48 looks like it was welded top to bottom direction, yet he welds that side from bottom to top

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2020, 03:05:58 am
content: Are there any of the highly-viewed restoration channels that haverealrestoration videos? I've only watched a few, but some are clearly bogus (like the OP) while others might be more believable?

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2020, 05:27:57 am
content: Quote from: amyk on January 18, 2020, 03:05:58 amHand Tool Rescue (he has a lot of rust remover)https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCasG9kJWi1eVxM0QkyqKVJQ

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2020, 06:46:48 am
content: TysyTube (cringe warning! Sometimes puts shitty cheap Chinese LEDs, cold white too, in vintage electrics, though he's gotten better at not doing that)Mr.ElectricityOdd TinkeringRescue and RestoreJust to name a few I believe to be legit.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2020, 07:13:15 am
content: David Tipton is awesome doing old and antique radio casing and mechanical restoration, like this one where he restored a crusty turntable deck in a radiogram

author: German_EE
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2020, 09:03:52 am
content: Mr Carlson's Lab does some decent restore work.

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2020, 10:30:58 am
content: These are at the top of my '100 electronics restoration' channels, and in no particular orderyoutube.com/user/MrCarlsonsLab/videos?disable_polymer=1youtube.com/user/Stratosaurus1/videos?disable_polymer=1youtube.com/user/dlab500/videos?disable_polymer=1No BS hoax restos, just getting it done and explaining what's being done and why,showing a believable before and after,and no annoying stupid moozik in the backgroundMultiple thumbs up for these dudesand the inversefor the yt wankers who 'old up' working gear, knowing in advance what needs 'troubleshooting and restoring'

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2020, 10:36:12 am
content: If you're into old valve radio restoration, Glasslinger:https://www.youtube.com/user/glasslinger/videosThere's other stuff too, like fabricating a working replica WW2 Magnetron from scratch!

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2020, 01:12:36 am
content: Quote from: Gyro on January 18, 2020, 10:36:12 amI gave that link a goand picked a video at random >youtube.com/watch?v=ppj3gqUTt9Eand whilst the content was spot on, I got caught unawares at first with the tech wearing a dress, make up, nails, wig? etcand well, I have to ask..

author: SilverSolder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2020, 01:23:24 am
content: Quote from: Electro Detective on January 19, 2020, 01:12:36 amRemember - it's not "he" or "she" any longer, it is "they"!

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2020, 03:40:24 am
content: That is still a"he"...

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2020, 09:03:21 am
content: Quote from: Electro Detective on January 19, 2020, 01:12:36 amGlasslinger just likes a nice frock, I prefer jeans and a shirt, it's just clothes man, we all have our own style.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2020, 11:21:59 am
content: Quote from: Electro Detective on January 19, 2020, 01:12:36 amYeah, I deliberately didn't mention that. What can I say, the guy likes a dress. He's done some fun stuff (project wise) though - like actually getting that Magnetron to output something! I wish I had his vacuum and glass-working stuff.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2020, 12:54:45 pm
content: Quote from: sleemanj on January 19, 2020, 09:03:21 amAh yes, the old TV who likes fixing old TV's.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2020, 01:00:47 pm
content: Quote from: Electro DetectiveCracks me up. Reminds me of Red Dwarf with Arnold Rimmer and Mr Flibble.

author: Cubdriver
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 20, 2020, 05:39:27 am
content: For some really amazing mechanical restorations, look up 'my mechanics' channel on YouTube. He does some really amazing stuff.-Pat

author: vwestlife
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2020, 11:50:38 pm
content: Quote from: jonovid on January 17, 2020, 11:11:16 amHere's Guitologist's "BUSTED!"-style response to that cassette deck "restoration" video:

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2020, 12:56:09 am
content: I don't have an opinion on the video, didn't take time to watch it all. But I have restored some really crusty stuff. It is possible. But given the time and money it took to do those restorations I don't think anyone could make real money at it unless they had a real stash of suckers lined up to pay enormous prices for the results.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2020, 03:45:50 am
content: Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 21, 2020, 12:56:09 amThe money is not coming from selling the results, it's coming from YouTube...

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2020, 06:58:06 am
content: I guess if you are looking for suckers you aren't too picky about where you find them. And fake videos are generally easier than real restorations.

author: chickenHeadKnob
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2020, 01:42:42 pm
content: Quote from: amyk on January 21, 2020, 03:45:50 amThere seems to be a burgeoning fake+copy cat video industry originating out of southeast asia. I thought it was just folks making rat trap videos in the similitude of Shawn Woods mousetrap monday's. Where for some reason they get away with more animal torture without youtube censor, by throwing captive bred rats on homemade electrocution devices ect. The guy in the original post linked video claims to be US located but clues in the video indicate otherwise, maybe Malaysia?

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2020, 02:12:45 pm
content: Quote from: amyk on January 18, 2020, 03:05:58 amThis Old Tony does restoration sometimes.Like he spends 30 minutes making a bolt, and you still watch it.

author: German_EE
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2020, 06:37:16 pm
content: "Like he spends 30 minutes making a bolt, and you still watch it."I have no problem with this, the man wants to get it right first time so he isn't rushing the job.

author: Gregg
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2020, 11:44:19 pm
content: Wray Schelin is a sheetmetal wizard if one is looking for real restoration videos.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU4f0UCOfiB32Lo4Z6NDghA/videosLook at the series where he forms a new Jaguar X type bonnet from aluminum using his method of making a pattern with tape strips and then shrinks and stretches the metal to fit the pattern. But the twisted metal doesn’t look at all like it will ever become the piece he wants to match until he massages it into shape.He also holds classes to teach others his skills.

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2020, 05:56:14 am
content: Given the amount of work, time and materials involved alone in restoring the tape deck, compared to the cost of buying one off eBay (for under $50), I'd say if it was real, they must be expecting ad-revenue from YouTube to fund their effort because it looks to be a crazy use of time and energy. I know some people have a passion and hobby for doing this type of work even if it is not economically feasible and they will end up losing more money than they get, in exchange for the pleasure and self-satisfaction of pulling off the restoration. Nevertheless, it just looks too good to be true. If this was real, I would be very impressed. I haven't watched the "busted" video yet, I'll have to see what clues they used to back their claims but I wouldn't be surprised that these types of "fakes" videos exist. Call them "Faketertainment".[ADDED:]One more thought... one good argument for thinking it is a fake is the amount of work invested in this device before any basic electronics troubleshooting (unless it was not included in the video). Imagine you find a piece of old junk covered in mud and rust on the side of a river/lake and decide you want to restore it. Why was it junked? Does a perfectly good set get dumped on the side of the river? Perhaps there are issues with it? Before you invest all that time and energy, would you not do some basic electronic investigation into the worthiness of the device? I mean obviously you have to clean off the mud and dry it... I get it. But before you start dismantling the tape deck mechanisms and polishing them all, wouldn't you want to just power up the board and see if it shows signs of life?

author: Deodand2014
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2020, 01:33:46 pm
content: Another good restoration channel (Mostly dealing with old generators/fans/battery chargers and the like) is this one.His most recent generator repairMy favorite of the Battery Charger fixes.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2020, 01:09:15 pm
content: That one is very good, he also restores old refrigerators.One of the clues that a restoration is fake is if it doesn't have any narration at all.

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2020, 08:59:45 pm
content: Quote from: amyk on January 27, 2020, 01:09:15 pmNot exactly, Hand Tool Rescue and Tysytube never talk and rarely put in captions.