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author: alin_im
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 11:28:25 am
content: Hey guys,I am looking for an affordable (100 pounds range) internet of things development board. Do you have an idea of one

author: LA7SJA
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 11:54:56 am
content: Try her:http://postscapes.com/internet-of-things-hardwareorhttp://blog.atmel.com/2015/04/09/25-dev-boards-to-help-you-get-started-on-your-next-iot-project/and thishttp://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/embedded/products/galileo/galileo-overview.htmlorhttp://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/do-it-yourself/edison.html. You do not state the platform you can program (ARM, PIC32, Atmel32...) or the need for sensors, user interface needs or any thing else so it's a bit dificult to give you any good advice.Johan-Fredrik

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 11:58:16 am
content: You take any of the zigbee/wifi/RFM24/BLM wireless development kit, put a buzzword to it, and suddenly it becomes IoT development kit.But if you dont want to DIY the IoT into the part, then try this:http://www.ti.com/tool/cc2650stk

author: alin_im
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 12:13:04 pm
content: I really do not know what sensors i will use because I am trying to find a platform for my final year project. I have different types at home from arduino and I can adapt them for other platforms.I was thinking about using Arduino Yun or Raspbbery PI 2 with Windows 10 IoT edition.Also the Edison and Galileo looks good but I am afraid they are too complex for my current knowledge in this MCUs field (I worked with arduino, raspbbery PI, Matrix Dev Kit for PIC and some silicon labs dev kits).I post this on EEVBlog because I wanted to know what is the most use platform and also has the most documentation about it and a good community.Does anyone tried RPI2 with Windows 10 IoT ?

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 01:35:18 pm
content: Quote from: alin_im on September 03, 2015, 12:13:04 pmSince it is not out yet, I'm guessing no.

author: alin_im
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 01:43:12 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on September 03, 2015, 01:35:18 pmhttp://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/win10/SetupRPI.htmhere is the setup for Windows 10 IoT

author: amwales
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 07:07:47 pm
content: Do a quick google for esp8266 I think you will be a little shocked with what you find.You should find some for < £2

author: alin_im
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 07:55:09 pm
content: Quote from: amwales on September 03, 2015, 07:07:47 pmI know this modules, I think they have a different type of communication than wireless 802.11 protocol.I do not think that this can be paired with Android through wireless for example.I think they communicate only between them. Correct me if I am wrong.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 08:02:34 pm
content: Quote from: alin_im on September 03, 2015, 07:55:09 pmMy understanding is that this chip can communicate with any ordinary WiFi.It appears to have open-source WiFi stack and development infrastructure.And it is almost unbelievably cheap.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP8266http://www.adafruit.com/products/2491https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13231

author: alin_im
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 08:20:11 pm
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on September 03, 2015, 08:02:34 pmYou are right, I thought that is like NRF24L01...

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 08:57:48 pm
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on September 03, 2015, 08:02:34 pm+++++++1

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 03, 2015, 08:59:34 pm
content: Quote from: alin_im on September 03, 2015, 08:20:11 pmesp8266 is a wifi chip, works with any wifi computer, phone, tablet, you name it.NRF24 is 2.4GHz but not wifi, works only with another NRF on the other side (but consumes really less than an esp8266 so ok for low current projects)

author: TJ232
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 06:35:22 am
content: I must admit I had a lot of fun lately with ESP8266, it's a nice and also cheap WIFI SOC (Espressif ESP8266 Details here)I don't see it yet prepared for a full commercial mass product environment, technical documentation is somehow limited (limited to none ! ) in some directions (as SSL or code protection for example).If you use search you will find a lot more about ESP8266 here on the forum. Many people, including me, have posted their own experience about, from the Dannyf inspiredCheap and Dirty Development Boardto the more advancedESP8266 Evo Boardthat was build as a learning IOT platformIn terms of programming, you can use almost anything fromESP8266 SDK in Eclipse,LUA interpreter(NodeMCU) and evenArduino IDE,BASIC, etc, just name it

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 07:49:20 am
content: Quote from: alin_im on September 03, 2015, 01:43:12 pmSo it's been around for 2 weeks now. I've looked it up, they say it is useless, lacks all the features.Still we have no idea what you are trying to do, do you?

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 10:16:21 am
content: Lacks all features?, well, for people thinking it is an runnable windows with gui and so on, yes it lacks features..But you can do lot of stuff with it:http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Windows10IoTCoreControllingARaspberryPi2Robot.aspx

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 12:12:06 pm
content: Quote from: neslekkim on September 04, 2015, 10:16:21 amLike no UART, most USB Wifi not supported, no I2S, no Camera and so on. It is not just about not being able to use it as a desktop replacement.

author: alin_im
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 12:48:05 pm
content: Quote from: TJ232 on September 04, 2015, 06:35:22 amThank you for your thoughts, I really like the idea of the ESP8266 and I will sure take in consideration to buy one. But I am trying to find something for my final year project. If the university requires a more professional development platform I think I will go with Intel Edison. But for me, for my hobbie I would love to try this cheap platform (ESP8266 )

author: alin_im
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2015, 12:52:47 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on September 04, 2015, 12:12:06 pmAnyway I do not think I will purchase the new RPI2 because I already have a RPI B+ and I really do not need to upgrade, because I am at the beginning of learning Linux and I am not using the full capacity of my module so I need to upgrade. Plus the other choices, I find them more attractive because they are in a smaller form factor ( ESP8266 / intel Edison ).

author: Morgoroth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2015, 03:41:43 am
content: take a look forCC3200 Textas Instrument LaunchPad, they use Energia (arduino IDE clone) with almost same libraries as Arduino, 30 dollars include wifi, fast processor (80MHz), good examples and you can debug using same USB connector to power it if you use Code Composer Studio (Eclipse), and is free.And you programmRedBearLabWifi Units as well with same tool, and you can add a nice and cheap BLE unit to conect a tabler or your phone and make a nice IoT project.good luck with your project.M

author: alin_im
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2015, 10:51:43 am
content: Thank you all for your thoughts, now I really have a good starting point for my project. Now I need to read about each platform and make a list with pros and cons

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2015, 03:27:11 pm
content: I found this quite interesting...https://youtu.be/gtM832Z0ujE

author: alin_im
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2015, 08:17:23 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on September 07, 2015, 03:16:37 amI would like to have WiFi and BT protocols integrated, I would prefer to program a microcontroller with Arduino IDE, but I can also use a device that has Linux.The project itself, I do not know what will be exactly but I do not think it will be something very complex, but it will be about the principles and idea of IoT and also something applied ( I do not know what this applied thing will be yet).To give you an idea about something applied, I would say a Smart Fridge that knows everything it has in it and when will expires, also you can tell it what type of food you want and it will display a list of ingredients with what you have and what you need to buy. The display part will be done by an Android Phone. Now, because I write this I think I will need something based on Linux that is connected to Google to search for recipes.THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE !I think Intel Edison is the best platform for what I want. What do you think what are your suggestions ?

author: TJ232
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 07, 2015, 12:07:08 pm
content: Quote from: Morgoroth on September 05, 2015, 03:41:43 amI will strongly suggest you to take a DEEP and CAREFUL look on the information's about the TI CC3XXX family before even thinking to touch them !TI makes great things, including MSP430 family. Did I said great? Sorry. BRILIANT!BUT CC3XXX...god help us!

author: Morgoroth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2015, 07:13:51 am
content: Quote from: TJ232 on September 07, 2015, 12:07:08 pmIf you want to make something serious like integrate a RTOS for a demanding real time task... yeah, is not the best option. But is not the point here, he need an entry/cheap development board able to make a IoT project, without frustration in the process.And seems like CC3200 don't show all the problems that have CC3100, probably TI wanted/need a fresh start with this line of IoT chips.JP

author: katzohki
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2015, 07:54:52 pm
content: Yeah I would also throw my hat into the ring for TI's Launchpad stuff. They specifically have some dev boards geared towards IoT and I've personally played around with the MSP430 one with an LCD (whichever that was, it was like 10$).In fact, Dave did a video on one of TI's IoT Launchpad devices:If I recall correctly, he was able to set up a web page displaying button presses in an afternoon with it.

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2015, 08:07:41 pm
content: I personnaly dont like things that need to connect to the manufacturer's home to work ...

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2015, 08:15:45 pm
content: Quote from: kripton2035 on September 18, 2015, 08:07:41 pmYES, many of us have that same aversion. Like the Electric Imp, et.al.

author: Scrts
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2015, 04:46:02 pm
content: Have a look here:http://www.ingenic.com/en/?newton/id/7.htmlhttp://www.ingenic.com/en/?newton/id/1.htmlhttp://www.ingenic.com/en/?newton/id/9.html

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2015, 11:49:28 pm
content: Quote from: Scrts on September 19, 2015, 04:46:02 pmYeah, so what? Just another wi-fi dev board.Ho hum, throw it on the pile of vaporware.Unless they are actually selling them somewhere at decent prices?