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author: ar__systems
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2017, 02:10:03 pm
content: Got an email, 50% discount for eagle subscription. Expires Jul 16. After discount it is USD 250 for one year. (Discount is only good for 1 year subscription, i.e. you can't buy 3 years or 2 years, or monthly, with the discount).Question, if the format of the Eagle 8 files is not radically different from Eagle 6, that is not a bad proposition. Once this expires I can always fall back on v.6 and reconsider my options then.

author: ReneK
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2017, 09:54:48 am
content: Quote from: ar__systems on June 02, 2017, 02:10:03 pmIt's not, as long as you don't use schematic hierarchy, but this is not guaranteed to stay. And if it changes, you have a problem.Beside that: Burning USD 250 for having to use V6 soon again does not sound that good for me as it does for you.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2017, 06:09:40 pm
content: Quote from: ar__systems on June 02, 2017, 02:10:03 pmBut the format alreadyisdifferent, starting with version 8.2. In the "Imagine you had a deadline..." thread, Jorge Garcia explains that you can currently work around that by using a special "export in old format" command:QuoteI am quite convinced that Autodesk will make sure the formats diverge further and further, so that in the near future you won't be able revert to an older, permanently licensed version without some painful losses of functionality or data.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2017, 06:17:05 pm
content: Quote from: ar__systems on June 02, 2017, 02:10:03 pmI got that email too. And I got another one in March, and two in January this year; each offering the same 50% discount.Keep them coming, Autodesk! Maybe at some point you will even be offering significant functional enhancements (push & shove routing, anyone?), a stable-again implementation, and a business model where I am not expected to sell my soul to Autodesk. I will happily reconsider then...

author: macegr
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2017, 11:45:11 pm
content: I got that email too, starting with "Hey ," for that extra personal touch.I don't need their alignment tool, I made my own with a very simple ULP.https://twitter.com/macegr/status/854779782264897536

author: ar__systems
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2017, 01:11:35 am
content: One feature that I don't mind paying for is having signal names written on the traces in PCB module.I did not realize you can create custom menus with ULP.

author: alank2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2017, 01:34:01 am
content: When did the format change from binary to XML? Was that in v6 or v7 or somewhere in between?

author: macegr
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2017, 02:32:46 am
content: I paid for V7 and currently have signal names on traces as of The Last V7 Update. So, you can't use that as a reason to upgrade to V8 unless you don't have a V7 license.Note: KiCAD does signal names on traces.

author: macegr
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2017, 02:35:43 am
content: Quote from: ar__systems on June 05, 2017, 01:11:35 ameagle.scr is run on startup and contains MENU directives which can add items to the menu, with optional image icons (which I was too lazy to implement on the above demo). That's how all the annoying element14 spam was added to the menus and instantly removed by me upon download.I've been using Eagle since 2001 as a hobbyist and 2009 or so as a pro, so I know the program inside and out and really would rather not have to leave it behind. If only they didn't have that stupid subscription model.

author: MarkL
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2017, 02:49:47 pm
content: Quote from: alank2 on June 05, 2017, 01:34:01 amVersion 6.0.0 introduced XML format.It's in the release notes, doc/UPDATE_en (or doc/UPDATE_de).

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2017, 04:58:26 pm
content: Sounds like they're getting desperate trying to pull users into the rental platform, don't fall for it.

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2017, 05:08:41 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on June 08, 2017, 04:58:26 pmUnless the product miraculously improves - I would not bother even if it was free. I don't want my small business to hang on subscription software for design on top of dealing with its limitations and quirks. I have 3 years of experience with it and have to spend a considerable amount of time learning the details and even writing my own ULP's. In the end, I can 'eventually' make just about any board, but it always seems to take far longer than it should which forces me to compromise. Now that I am moving into high-speed layouts - it is REALLY hard.In my opinion, it is a hobby tool with hopes and dreams to become a professional tool. I cannot deal with hopes and dreams - I need the capability even if I have to suck it up and pay.

author: sergioag
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 10, 2017, 12:08:14 pm
content: I also got the email but I won't spend a single dollar with Autodesk. They may have left me with a mostly unsupported software after I paid them, but they aren't getting any more business from me. While I'll be using Eagle for many years to come for existing projects(and I'm keeping backup of both executables and license codes), I'm migrating to Kicad (or Altium -- if they ever release a Mac version) for new ones.

author: jgarc063
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 12, 2017, 04:04:07 pm
content: Quote from: sergioag on June 10, 2017, 12:08:14 pmHi Sergioag,Just to clarify, we are still supporting our V7 users, if you run into any technical issues please feel free to reach out. If you need the links to download V7.7 or your installation credentials resent please let me know.Best Regards,Jorge Garcia

author: sergioag
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 12, 2017, 04:31:35 pm
content: Hi Jorge,Yeah, that why I said "mostly unsupported", not "totally unsupported". I would remove the "unsupported" part if some development was going on for v7, but that's not the case.Thanks,Sergio Aguayo