Should I scam some crowdfunded money from idiots? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2016, 05:55:39 pm
content: The more and more utter impossible shite I see, ranging from the T-charger (all traces see to have been removed), the Airing, Triton, etc etc etc, with idiotic people throwing money at, I start feeling I should leave my morals at the door and cash in myself.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2016, 06:25:58 pm
content: If you do be sure to read the entire Batterizer posts. Lots of advice on how to run a scam. Advice is given on how the scam works NOT how to do it.I am waiting for someone to download all the posts and make a Kindle version and sell it on Amazon. Just do not know what the title will be.

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2016, 06:38:30 pm
content: I have followed that marathon post from the start!One key thing I take from that, is tosell my scamoffer perks at a cheap enough price that people won't bother chasing it up (even though I don't think they have any means to do so) when the impossible device fails to work / arrive, they'll just write it off.

author: Len
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2016, 06:48:00 pm
content: QuoteNo. Aside from making you an asshole and a crook, you'll ruin your professional reputation.

author: Kilrah
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 18, 2016, 07:01:54 pm
content: I'm frankly asking myself the same question sometimes.For now I tend to stay on the honest/warning side of things - see my signature below.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2016, 11:04:51 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on April 18, 2016, 10:26:49 pmthey can be both, if people fall for a scam because they are greedy or blindly throw money at something that is toogood to be true, idiot probably covers it

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2016, 11:05:19 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on April 18, 2016, 10:26:49 pmCome on Wilf, look how ridiculous some of these campaigns are! I'm not saying that everyone who's lost money on a crowdfunding campaign is an idiot, just the ones who back ludicrous campaigns.If I make up a campaign that issoidiotic, then by definition, anyone who backs it is an idiot!

author: Skimask
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2016, 11:06:51 pm
content: Why not?Go for it. The smart ones will see right thru it. The not-smart ones will fork it over.http://www.thenophone.com/http://sharktankblog.com/business/nophone/

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2016, 02:41:26 am
content: While I am sympathetic towards fleecing people with more money than they know what to do with, and not enough brains to have earned it in the first place, I would feel terrible taking money from people desperately trying to improve their financial lot or those who are short on both money and brains.If you can figure out how to sort that out maybe you could go for it. But recognise that if you piss those rich dumb ones off they have the resources to come after you.

author: AF6LJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 19, 2016, 02:51:18 am
content: Bad Karma Don't Do it...

author: Circlotron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2016, 03:14:58 am
content: OP aka Dogbert.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 19, 2016, 03:40:10 am
content: Do it like James Randi and "Carlos" did:The deliverable perk can be a video explaining how they've been duped and shouldn't be so gullible in the future. Then refund everyone's money.

author: FreddyVictor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2016, 08:48:08 am
content: should you join the scammers ?probably best not, but I understand the thinking/sentimentas for doing a Randi, I believe the saying "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they'vebeenfooled"so I'm not totally convinced they would learn ....

author: MrSlack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2016, 08:56:52 am
content: Why bother when you can write software on contract?Deliverables are hard to define. Hourly rate is crazy good. It's virtually impossible to measure what you're doing. Absolutely no risk to professional reputation. You can quietly screw nasty people trying to build an unethical business. People are queuing up to employ you even if you're crap. It doesn't require commuting - you can just sit on your arse at home or sit in the car somewhere nice (my office view last week:).Who needs a scam

author: Kalidor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2016, 03:34:04 pm
content: Quote from: Len on April 18, 2016, 06:48:00 pmYou can create some identities for your team, I don't think that IGG has the resources to verify it.

author: Kalidor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2016, 03:51:34 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on April 19, 2016, 03:40:10 amDon't refund the money, give it to Sea Shepherd, they do something useful with it, if you refund it it goes to the next scam.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2016, 04:00:10 pm
content: Tcharger pages are still therehttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tcharger-the-next-generation-wireless-charger#/comments

author: Kalidor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2016, 03:06:30 am
content: Quote from: Howardlong on April 19, 2016, 04:00:10 pmLocation: London, United KingdomBank account country: Russian Federation

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 20, 2016, 06:24:47 am
content: Why not move up one layer above the pond scum, and makes something that works, just not as perfectly as you originally claimed.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2016, 12:55:29 pm
content: Quote from: station240 on April 20, 2016, 06:24:47 amits a scam nonetheless.btw, the answer to this is highly dependent on your belief systems. i can give you answer but then that will be based on my belief systems, may not be compatible with yours, so i'm not going to. thats why you see there so many variant of human beings, 1 trillion people with 1 trillion traits, this is "natural unselection" nature.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2016, 01:07:12 pm
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on April 20, 2016, 12:55:29 pmI trillion people? last I looked it was about 7.5 billion so someway to go....

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2016, 01:17:48 pm
content: ironically, if you run a scam and at the end come clean, offer refunds / give the money to charity, you are opening yourself up to legal action, whereas if you go the usual route of "sorry, we tried but the money ran out" you are in the clear...

author: Circlotron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2016, 08:51:09 am
content: Quote from: StuUK on April 20, 2016, 01:07:12 pmSome people fall for scams more than once.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2016, 04:45:09 pm
content: Not a scam, more of a piss take:https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/solar-freakin-thorium-roadways--4#/

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2016, 05:44:32 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on April 21, 2016, 04:45:09 pmCould this be a Aprils fool joke? Or a satire on IG ? It looks like they are raising money.Could it be people are paying money to be in on the joke?1 claimed for $500 USD that a self conscious road will sing them a song ??Quote

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2016, 07:19:17 pm
content: Thunderf00t, a fairly well-known Youtuber.

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 21, 2016, 09:15:46 pm
content: It TF raising money for a thermal imaging camera, whilst taking the piss out of the Solar Roadways idiots and thorium powered car scammers... Good work.

author: Kalidor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 22, 2016, 03:52:21 pm
content: I started a thread about that over a week ago.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/crowd-funded-projects/solar-freakin'-thorium-roadways!/

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 22, 2016, 04:16:52 pm
content: Quote from: Kalidor on April 22, 2016, 03:52:21 pmSorry, missed that thread, is board is just so popular and busy it's hard to keep up!