ICEL Manaus MD-6680 or Hikari HK-1021M? - Page 1
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author: vinicius.jlantunes
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2015, 05:07:27 pm
content: I am looking for a second hand meter to buy. It will not be my main meter. While searching in a local Brazilian "craiglist" like site I came across two offers at about the same price (~300 BRL):1) ICEL Manaus MD-6680 bench meter (6 1/2 digits, ~0.6-1.0% for most ranges, USB PC connection, etc.)2) Hikari HK-1021M portable scope (200 MHz, 100 MS/s, 1 channel, 6kpts memory, color display, integrated meter, etc.)The meter (1) is selling at ~1/3 of its retail cost. Its brand (ICEL Manaus) is a Brazilian local brand but all they do is re-badge chinese stuff, perhaps doing part of the assembly here so they can take advantage of tax incentives.http://www.icel-manaus.com.br/produto_descricao.php?id=356&The portable scope (2) is selling at ~1/4 of its retail cost (but it seems to be discontinued). Hikari is also a local brand, but in general their stuff is a bit better; the scope though I'm pretty sure is also some chinese re-badged stuff. The seller says it is not measuring current but I am guessing that could be just a burnt fuse.I could not find any documents in Hikari's website, seems to be discontinued, but this link has some info (in Portuguese...)http://www.pontoeletronicodasbaterias.com.br/osciloscopio-digital-portatil-hk-1021m-hikari.htmlDoes anyone recognize these as being similar to some other chinese stuff on the market? That would help me assess if it's worthy or not. Or perhaps any fellow brazilians have one of these?What would you get, the meter of the scope?Before anyone say "get an old second hand <insert quality brand> instead, it's always going to be better", bear in mind that the market in Brazil is very different to that of developed countries. It's not easy to find quality second hand gear and when you do they still cost a lot, 3 or 4 times more than what these cost at least. The asking price for these is reasonable if they are somewhat decent.Specs:

author: vinicius.jlantunes
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2015, 12:23:20 am
content: Bump :-)Not a very exciting question this one of mine, involving crappy Brazilian gear

author: 1xrtt
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2015, 08:19:46 pm
content: Vinicius,In fact they are not crappy Brazilian gear, they are, I won't say crappy, but "not impressive" chinese gear, simply rebadged:The Hikari is a Owon HDS2021.http://www.owon.com.hk/products.asp?ParentID=57&SortID=62The ICEL is an UNI-T 803, and it's not a 6 1/2 digit, it's a 6000 count, more like 3 3/4:http://www.uni-trend.com/en/product/2014_0724_678.htmlLooking on Ebay and Aliexpress prices, BRL 300 is a reasonable price. (Considering import taxes, it converts to USD60, if any non-Brazilian is wondering).Are you looking for a bench meter? I do have a Keithley 177 that I got from Ebay a couple of years ago and don't need anymore, send me a PM if you are interested. But if we get some details on your budget and how do you intend to use it for, others may offer additional advice.

author: vinicius.jlantunes
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2015, 01:41:31 pm
content: Thanks @1xrtt! I will PM you about the Keithley.I am not looking for a bench meter or anything in particular, it's just that I stumbled upon these offers and thought it could be a good deal. I am inclined to get the portable scope, but an additional meter would be handy as well.As for budget, the BRL 300 (~60 USD as you said considering import taxes) is about as much I can burn at the moment. More than that the wife will notice

author: RobHon
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2015, 03:44:30 am
content: Hi, Try this:http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-629988368-multimetro-agilent-u1241b-wireless-true-rms-4-digit-handheld-_JMLooking closely the third photo (looks like the calibration certificate) is possible to read a date in 2014.Thats a little more the amount you mentioned (400) but you can make an offer. for your reference, I believe this unit is about 600BRL in a regular store.All the bestRoberto

author: 1xrtt
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2015, 02:44:06 pm
content: Keysight Brazilian site lists the meter as BRL526, so BRL400 seems a good deal.Off topic: Interesting thing about the wireless sticker. Manual mentions nothing about remote connectivity but it seems that there are several options to remote logging data (at additional $$, of course).