A tax on IE7 Users - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 12:40:47 am
content: Brilliant! Aussie importer Kogan imposes a 6% tax on all purchases made using IE7.http://ph.omg.yahoo.com/news/australian-website-launches-ie7-tax-153907804.htmlMy hopes of stupidity based taxationMy hopes are still alive that taxation based upon stupidity, could and should be adopted.

author: Rufus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 01:04:50 am
content: Quote from: Uncle Vernon on June 15, 2012, 12:40:47 amThey already have various lotteries in Australia don't they?

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 01:39:50 am
content: It is hilarious!

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 01:53:03 am
content: Dam.....'Page not Found'.............regards

author: DrGeoff
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 02:36:41 am
content: Well poker machines are voluntary tax booths, usually located where low income earners live.Taxing all IE users would be a good idea.

author: kaptain_zero
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 02:47:57 am
content: Quote from: PeterG on June 15, 2012, 01:53:03 amTry this one:http://ph.news.yahoo.com/australian-website-launches-ie7-tax-153907804.html

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 02:51:49 am
content: Quote from: PeterG on June 15, 2012, 01:53:03 amtry this onehttp://www.kogan.com/au/blog/new-internet-explorer-7-tax/

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 03:06:00 am
content: About time someone did something to make people keep there systems up to date.I would probably tax any IE browser user........... but I am biased toward Firefox and Chrome browsers.Regards

author: AntiProtonBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 04:34:20 am
content: I know exactly what it feels like to provide support for shitty browsers. It's not unusual to spend 30% of dev time on IE compatibility issues.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 04:47:02 am
content: Should be doubled for IE6 users, though many of them have no choice in that matter.My bank sorted that out, they moved to RHEL and have saved massively on costs, as well as having computers that are basically secure terminals running a remote session for the user. The ATM's though are still Diebold, and use XP, though they are not connected to the internet except via a secure vpn router.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 08:32:13 am
content: I think the newer browsers aren't any better in terms of user experience, removing functionality changing the UI too much and being more nannying. Forcing upgrades causes unnecessary work for users as they try to get everything working the way they wanted again. Websites that care about what browser you use should rethink their strategies. I have a tendency of just going back and looking somewhere else when a website complains about my environment. (If it's something that really can't be found somewhere else, then I switch user-agents to tell them whatever browser they want just to shut them up.)http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 09:06:32 am
content: Well for one thing certain it's very hard to keep your website compatible with a abomination only known as "IE"

author: AntiProtonBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2012, 09:21:46 am
content: Quote from: amyk on June 15, 2012, 08:32:13 amIt's all aboutstandards compliance, not about supporting a specific platform. Most self respecting web developers don't care what browser you use, as long as the rendered pages look and work consistently within the parameters of W3C standards.You can't do that with IE6 and 7.Hacking support together to make pages work on superseded browsers is a waste of time, waste of money and eats into site maintenance costs. Furthermore, getting end users to upgrade will also benefit them with improved security on their machines.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 03:55:08 am
content: Quote from: PeterG on June 15, 2012, 03:06:00 amI dunno about Firefox,but I'd rather have Rheumatic Fever than Google Chrome!

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 04:19:58 am
content: with my ie8, i'll be the next victim. but thanks god i never heard bout this kogan. ok i have, the other kogan maybe.Quotei have the chrome installed that equally perform bad as my ie8 (slow loading or just hanged) on some sites. i'm not sure what, but it seems unspecific to ie8 noncompliance. just as example. browsing digikey, ti, farnel etc. i still have no problem with ebay and eevblog though with my ie8. so i guess ie8 is still eevblog compliance, no need tax eh?

author: DrGeoff
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 04:38:45 am
content: Performance problems with IE were in part due to a poor implementation of a crypto engine to handle SSL connections. I measured up to 17 times slower in IE6 than in the FF browser at the time (probably 2.0) for page loading. It does not appear to have improved by much. IE is still very slow to load TLS pages compared to FF.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 04:44:50 am
content: I used Firefox for years until one day it annoyed me. Now i use both Firefox and Chrome. I like the Chrome integration with my Google account etc.Regards

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 05:13:21 am
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 16, 2012, 03:55:08 amEh ? ._. care to explain?

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 06:58:58 am
content: Quote from: DaveXRQ on June 16, 2012, 05:13:21 amI liked the early versions of IE & Netscape,when a browser looked like a browser,& if you wanted a Search Engine you entered the URL for Google & a Google page came up,Meanwhile,if you didn't want it,you could just enter the URLs for the sites you wanted,& go on with your life.Even though it's been messed around with,IE still looks like a browser,as does Firefox.Google Chrome,on the other hand,just looks like the ordinary Google Search Engine page,& everything is difficult to do.I have no doubt,that if I had never seen any other browser,I would be happy with Chrome,but I have, & I'm not!

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 07:39:03 am
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 16, 2012, 06:58:58 amI am much happier with Chrome/Rockmelt/Chromium/Comodo Dragon/Crossover Chromium/Flock/SRWare Ironrather then that piece of shit IE7 that no longer looks like a browser even so chrome looks like a browser to me, the address bar is at the top and spans the entire lengthFF/Palemoon(Speed-up version) looks like a browser but with a shitload of history it slows to a crawlSo Chromium for me

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 07:55:46 am
content: I wont have IE6/7/8/9 or IEto the 27 on my computer I cannot stand the silly litle windows that you have to scroll through due to all the junk that is put on the screen.

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 08:03:29 am
content: Quote from: G7PSK on June 16, 2012, 07:55:46 amMy sentiments ...

author: bingo600
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 08:31:25 am
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 16, 2012, 03:55:08 amI agree there ...But i unfortunately have to use Chromium to access my Bank (Ubuntu 10.04).FireFox (in combi w. java) has been crashing my Bank (security APP) , ever since Ubuntu decided to switch away from Sun Java. I think i have send 50+ (autogenerated) crashreports to Mozilla.But nothing happens.If i run my Bank APP in Chromium , the app works.So i have no choice , but only use Chromium for Banking.I use FF for everything else./Bingo

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 11:40:21 am
content: At least Chromium is much better in that it does not silently update itself, and does not send "anonymous" data to the Chocolate factory.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 11:46:10 am
content: My only issue with Chrome is the lack of Bookmarks button. I find it most annoying at times and it is almost impossible to find a decent plugin that does a reasonable job of it.Regards

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 11:48:24 am
content: Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on June 15, 2012, 09:21:46 amIf it doesn't work, then it doesn't work. They don't have to go out of their way to specifically support IE6/7, but going out of their way to antagonise users just makes them more likely to leave. A lot of things naturally work in IE without special handling anyway, it's the more "advanced" (and arguably a bit overused these days) stuff that doesn't.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 02:03:08 pm
content: I use Opera most of the time and Firefox at work.

author: AntiProtonBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 02:23:57 pm
content: Quote from: amyk on June 16, 2012, 11:48:24 amPeople in-the-know point out the problems and are eager to make positive changes in technology. They want to make the process of developing applications more robust and easier, which ultimately translates to developing superior applications, and making the end-user experience better.Unfortunately most users are hopelessly clueless about the technical issues they are unknowingly part of (which is fair enough). Bad implementation of standards will continue to exist if no one takes the initiative to inform users. They won't see the benefit until the better alternative is directly in front of them. THEN hopefully they catch on why the alternative implementation is better. If that means alienating a few users that still live in the 1990's era, then so be it. Meanwhile the rest of the universe moves on. Of course, there are those who will never get it, no matter what you put in front of them. They just go along with what is being served. We call them sheep, and they must be herded for the good of mankind.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 03:11:53 pm
content: Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on June 16, 2012, 02:23:57 pmThe thing is,most people couldn't give a rodent's exhaust port about Kogan,& what they do or don't do!I also find it hard to believe that IE7 has very many users any more.As PCs croak,& are replaced,they usually come out of the box with later versions of IE.Being sheep,we just learn to live with the newer,crippled versions of both operating systems & browsers!

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 03:44:03 pm
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 16, 2012, 03:11:53 pmSeemingly around 4-5% users still use IE7. That's rather a few million people.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 03:48:00 pm
content: being sheep is better and alot easier than being a competent programmeryou just wait to be slaughtered death.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 05:02:13 pm
content: Quote from: PeterG on June 16, 2012, 11:46:10 amIts that little star in the right of the search bar, you can have as many folders as you like. I find that works for me, But of course its horses for courses, and what is good for one is not necessarily so for the next.

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 06:27:53 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 16, 2012, 03:44:03 pmNot so surprising when you find out that 4-5% are technologically-inept or that they can't install any other browserOr in the case of my school's computers they wipe their data every shutdown(Reset to default)

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 16, 2012, 11:51:25 pm
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 16, 2012, 03:11:53 pmA lot more do now after this latest bit of fun. Most with a clue like what it says. Can't see his target Gerry Harvey and the old school retailers thinking of it. Most of them are still trying to manage to build a workable website.QuoteA lot of Win98 boxes still running out there a lot of W2K ones too. A lot of PCs purchased as retail pornographs are still running whatever OS they came with. A lot of clueless corporates having paid way too much for in house systems are stuck using out of date and non compliant browsers on all their workstations.QuoteWhich is exactly why there are still a lot of POS IE browsers still in use. A lot of people still see their PC as a capital investment rather than a consumable tool.QuoteThere is a good degree of the sheep type resistance out there. People who seldom write more than a memo will pay way too much for a copy of office and resist using the (in their case) fully functional equivalent open or Libre office suites, because they look different. Funny thing is the open source stuff is probably more equivalent to the office 2003 they are using at work than Microsoft's latest garbage is.You will see similar resistance with browsers when the clueless want to stick with what they've always used. I don't fight it any more, when they come (and they will) pleading for help with the inevitable browser issues, is the time to load a proper compatible browser as the fix.Sadly the sheep mentality is why Microsoft has beenable to linger with their latest steaming piles of intrusive Os's and also the reason why so many Linux builds lose the plot trying to b e MS lookalikes.I'm not a fanboy of Kogan and his cheap Chinese TVs but you have to hand it to him for poking the sheep mentality with a long pointed stick.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2012, 05:31:54 am
content: Quoteso you call the few millions people technologically inept? soon i will be among them and become technologically inept? tell me whats good new technology bring? as long as i can browse cern and find mr albert or stephen in the web, i will stick with it (ie8). in case that it cant cut it, then i have a chrome ready to the rescue, but i see there is not much difference between them, infact with its 'darwinian evolution' novelty of boorkmarking system, i cant save my bookmark in HDD anymore (or maybe i'm an ignorant mistaken, i still cant find how, i saw that import to IE option but that a afew more steps?), all i know the good thing it can do is when i go to work browse with chrome, i can see the same bookmark as when i was home, saved bookmark in the net? (security or spamming opportunity?). well, if i want to i can bring my saved bookmarks and set it up in my ie at work. maybe i should try another the firefox or another one i cant recall people mentioned?everybody around me now using at least 6" lcd touch screen browser walking around everywhere, regardless older or younger than me. i'm the one left with my old nokia 'not' qwerty keyboard handphone and the IE8. when asked why, sure they can talk, ooh its good it can download things it uses this processor that processor fast! yeah right... i'm thinking of getting one too, but i'm afraid i will scratch it the first time i put it in my pocket.

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2012, 09:51:46 am
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on June 17, 2012, 05:31:54 amMostly the 4-5% are ineptBut some of the 4-5% don't bother with a new browser, i use chrome because well ... IE is terribly SLOW

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2012, 11:07:53 am
content: Well,would you believe,I'm using Chrome,right now!I noticed that I still had it on the desktop.I could have sworn I deleted it,but it may have snuck back in with another program I downloaded.Anyhow,I thought I'd give it another try!It doesn't freak me out as much as it used to,so it looks like I've slowly been weaned off "browsers that look like browsers".A lot of the crud on Chrome is also on IE9,so that I've become used to doing things in non intuitive ways!Still don't like it that much,but the fact I can even tolerate it means that it has dropped back from "Rheumatic Fever" to about the level ofa bad attack of 'flu!Might have another look at Firefox!

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2012, 02:51:08 pm
content: Quote from: DaveXRQ on June 17, 2012, 09:51:46 amand "most" of the 96% people are "not" inept? "technologically skillfull"? i can see you have problem with your OS setup as my ie8 is doing ok on most sites. or maybe you are using ie9? get Win8 and a tablet! or that Samsung InterGalactic S3

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2012, 03:04:56 pm
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on June 17, 2012, 02:51:08 pmYes also most of the 96% use whatever browsers came with them ... Dickheads who think their Galaxy S3 and iDevice is of very good quality and that blowing 1000$ on their phones is a very good ideaBUT you have to see the problem, the startup speed of IE once it's cluttered

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2012, 05:47:50 pm
content: Quote from: DaveXRQ on June 17, 2012, 03:04:56 pmsemantics differenceif not, then the my 'religion subject' colleague is more technological than i am. about your IE, once its cluttered, 'de-cluster' it aka 'clear cache'. but i havent clearing cache for so long.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 09:46:47 am
content: Been playing around again with IE9 & Chrome,& realised how limited my use of the 'Net has been recently!I usually open IE,which brings up my Home Page,then I either go to this forum,or others using Favorites.Searching,I go to Google,so it is a while since I'd just entered an URL in the Address Bar.This time,when I did so,up came Bing's Search page,with the required site,plus a lot of other crud I didn't want.Interesting!-----So I went to Chrome,which did the same thing,but with Google's Search page instead.That's when it clicked!---What freaked me out before about Chrome was this behaviour!But why didn't IE9 freak me out,too?The only thing I can think is that it had the "Search from Address Bar" function turned off,& somewhere down the line I had reactivated it.The Internet is full of crud from IE shills saying what a wonderful thing this function is!On the other hand,there are many people who hate it,& ask how to remove it.At least youcanturn it off with IE9,but you can't with Chrome!If your usage pattern is like mine,it will probably only annoy you if you have entered a known URL.Businesses publish their URLs so that you can find them--why should they bother,if you still end up on a Search Engine?

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 09:56:30 am
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 18, 2012, 09:46:47 amNo! IE should not be removed! It is, after all, a handy tool provided by Microsoft to allow Download and Installation of a browser to any new Windows installs.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 09:59:22 am
content: Quote from: Uncle Vernon on June 18, 2012, 09:56:30 amWell said...It shows there is at least one use for IE.Regards

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 11:07:19 am
content: Quote from: Uncle Vernon on June 18, 2012, 09:56:30 amNo Unc!You left your specs off!What I was talking about was removing "Search from Address Bar",which is present on both IE9 & Chrome,&seems to delight the "Tech Savvy" Tossers !IE9 is OK if you take that XX$%^^%$^^!!!!! thing away!Maybe Chrome would be,too if I can find a way to do the same thing with it.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 11:13:54 am
content: The chrome bar will act as an address bar if an address is entered in full i think.Regards

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 11:26:54 am
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 18, 2012, 11:07:19 amWell then, use Firefox.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 11:33:40 am
content: (Answer to PeterG)Nope!I just tried that,& got the Search page again.The directions from Google say to put in the complete URL,then press Enter,but why bother if you get the same result?One website says to put in a false Search Engine as default,& then it will operate in the "old school " fashion,but I don't want to mess about if I don't know what I'm doing!I'm using Chrome at the moment,& it definitely seems faster,once you've got past that bit of nonsense!

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 11:41:47 am
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 18, 2012, 11:26:54 amI'll try that next---I tried installing it on my wife's desktop when she was having problems with Facebook games,but no joy.I ended up doing a System Restore,which of course,also restored IE9.It fixed the problem,though!Firefox looked nice, maybe next time,I'll come up using it.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 11:56:23 am
content: i just figured out... nothing better than extending my coax and moving the antenna away off the blocking concrete wall. now my net seems golden. firefox also installed, seems responsive. yet to test the difficult sites i encountered in chrome and ie. o and i think touch screen 23+" monitor should be available by now already at consumer price. the chrome presents me with some icons at startup... chrome webstore, youtube, gmail, and google search. if i have a touch screen monitor, maybe i can wosh (ipod scroll) those away.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 12:04:22 pm
content: Hi,here I am on Firefox>Yes,it doesn't have "Search from Address Bar" as default.Much nicer UI than Chrome,but it doesn't seem quite as fast.It does seem faster than IE9,though.

author: baljemmett
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 01:44:25 pm
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 18, 2012, 11:33:40 amI'm not sure what you're doing exactly, but PeterG is right --if you type a URL into the address bar in Chrome it will simply navigate to that URL, like people expect it to. That's the only way I ever use it, as I'm too old-fashioned and set in my ways to do anything else; for searches I pull up the Google front page and go from there.If you can't get it to work, keep an eye on the dropdown suggestions that appear as you start typing -- that might give you a clue as to why it doesn't understand what you want it to do. Let's say you want to visit searchterm.com -- up until you type the o the first entry in the list will be "searchterm.c - Google Search", but as soon as you type the o it'll change to "searchterm.co" because it's recognised that as something that smells like a web address. (Some quick experimentation leads me to suspect that this change happens when it recognises a valid TLD...)

author: Kozmyk
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 02:01:52 pm
content: My main browser is Firefox.I have Chrome and of course IE9(Windows updates and fallback).Chrome doesn't get used much unless the content is Chrome specific like that Arcade Fire release last year.Lately I have been using the "view in IE" function in FF because YouTube videos keep throwing out a second audio giving an annoying 3-4 second delay.Not all YT vids, but every now and then.Odd

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 02:03:59 pm
content: Quote from: Kozmyk on June 18, 2012, 02:01:52 pmNever had that problem with Firefox.Regards

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 03:47:17 pm
content: Search from address bar comes back on with each windows update, it seems. Then again, at work I still have IE6, though it is never used, browser is Firefox.

author: ivan747
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 04:15:38 pm
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 18, 2012, 11:07:19 amSafari still has the separate search bar. I think Firefox does too. If it doesn't there's probably a plugin.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 05:48:10 pm
content: FF the separate search bar is a option in the customise bar section. Nice is that it allows multiple search engines, and you can even add your own to it as well to do a search of certain sites, like Amazon, Bing, Yahoo, Fleabay, Duckduckgo and others.

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 05:54:45 pm
content: I still think chromium's search bar is by far the most convenient because, well i can easily search and when i'm not wrong i still get the actual webpage i was trying to go ! When i'm wrong i get the searchWell unless your network's down then obviously you'd hate the search thing but hey what's the point really, your network is already down what else can you surf ?

author: Kozmyk
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2012, 10:30:06 pm
content: Quote from: PeterG on June 18, 2012, 02:03:59 pmIt's an odd one for sure.I suspect it's something gone wrong with the plug-in container system.It appears to occur at random.I'm hoping some FF update will fix it or maybe there's a driver that's interfering with the works that'll get updated.FirefFox is still my browser of choice though, I know my way around it and I'd feel naked without all my plug-ins ;^)

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2012, 12:11:47 am
content: Youtube plays videos using Flash, maybe check for Flash updates.Regards

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2012, 02:49:16 am
content: Quote from: Kozmyk on June 18, 2012, 02:01:52 pmI've had that happen with IE9 on odd occasions.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2012, 03:12:45 am
content: I've found the trick to use the Chrome Address Bar normally:Just type in the URL,then while your cursor is still sitting at the end of the address,press "Enter".It works every time.Everybody will say "Why would you move the cursor away, in the first place?"Well,I guess it is a reflex action,as I was looking for the arrow that other browsers have,not finding it,& then trying something else.It's still clunky as hell to "mouse click" oriented (brainwashed) people like me,but it isoneanswer--maybe there are others!

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 19, 2012, 03:27:07 am
content: Quote from: Kozmyk on June 18, 2012, 02:01:52 pmAre you guys sure you're not clicking through to a youtube from the vid and still leaving the embedded link running? For example in Firefox, Eevblog vids if clicked, will launch you tube in a new tab or window but will continue to run from the blog site too.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2012, 03:39:11 am
content: Every time i click on an embedded youtube link, it opens the youtube video on the youtube site and stops the embedded video on eevblog page. I have never had them both run at the same time.Same for other sites with embedded youtube videos.Regards

author: Kozmyk
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2012, 11:55:35 pm
content: There's now a recognised issue between the current FireFox and Flash 11.3.The temporary fix is to down grade flash to either 11.2 or 10.3 and then wait for the official fix/update.10.3 apparently has the advantage of having all the security issues sorted whereas 11.2 doesn't.http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/flash-113-crashesI had just done this when my line went down (copper fault) so I haven't had the chance to try it out yet.