thoughts on this brand new projector for 19aud free shipping  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 12:00:11 pm
content: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-NEW-LCD-LED-Video-Projector-Home-Theater-1080p-HDMI-TV-HD-PS3-Movie-Night-/271718610581?pt=AU_PocketBikes&hash=item3f43b0f695

author: AlessandroAU
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 01:27:50 pm
content: Couldn't Resist buying one for that price.It should be fun taking it apart!

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 01:36:56 pm
content: "Supports 1080i/720P/576P/480P/576i/480i signals, *native resolution 640x480,compatible with 1024x768. Supports HD."Lol, perhaps some clueless person will think it's HD."7."Green product", no radiation & pollution"Perhaps that's because it's made from recycled parts?

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 01:56:17 pm
content: Quote from: AlessandroAU on December 25, 2014, 01:27:50 pmPrice is incredibly low, but is not worth it in economic terms:Purchase cost ~$20. Entertainment/resale/scrap value ~$0.Quote from: AlessandroAU on December 25, 2014, 01:27:50 pmI doubt about fun part. Dave has already done a teardown of cheap projector on episode #671. Expect this to be even worse.

author: magetoo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 01:57:57 pm
content: Ok, let's see."no radiation""no bulb to replace""with upgraded lighting system 50,000+ hours"It would seem that it completely lacks a light source and they're putting the best possible spin on it. :-)

author: AlessandroAU
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 02:26:41 pm
content: Quote from: electr_peter on December 25, 2014, 01:56:17 pmEconomic sense? Really? This isn't a car or some other major purchase, I couldn't even buy the cords it comes with for $19aud at my local electronics shop, have you considered some people actively enjoy taking thing apart to examine their construction? Anyway, it costs less than a six pack of beer.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 02:33:28 pm
content: QuoteAll factually true.QuoteThe fact that it doesn't have a light bulb doesn't mean it doesn't have a light source. They mentioned "LED" in the title for a reason.

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 03:08:15 pm
content: Quote from: AlessandroAU on December 25, 2014, 02:26:41 pmI think you misunderstood me. You can buy this item if you like, maybe you will have some fun tearing it down/repairing it. It is cheap after all.I just mentioned that cheap, poor quality and stripped down for the cost item is not as fun for use or teardown as proper unit.

author: AlessandroAU
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 03:19:31 pm
content: Quote from: electr_peter on December 25, 2014, 03:08:15 pmFair enough, I have zero expectations anyway, I'll be happy if it powers up. I just want to take it apart for the sake of curiosity and to find out how much effect goes into the $19 POS.

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 03:52:00 pm
content: I ordered one, I used to have one for Halloween (yup I dropped it and broke the bulb). Anyway shine it on the curtains from behind with a few creepy images and there you go.Stuff like this is a bit of a gamble but I do buy things to play with. When the little kids come over load up a screen saver and set it on the floor shining on a sheet and you have a cool pirate ship. I prefer this to the "singing wall trout" any day.So to sony mavica, thanks.

author: Jorpy
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 05:28:33 pm
content: I'm more impressed by the 27$ android car radio/dvd/whatever. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Android-4-2-2-OS-2-DIN-Car-DVD-Player-E1-Radio-Stereo-GPS-Navigation-Wifi-1080p-/271719199463) Similar products seems to be sold for alot more!Anyways, I have brought one. It could be useful for many projects if it actually does all the things the listing states!

author: rollatorwieltje
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 08:32:47 pm
content: Look at the other stuff from that seller, looks like all prices are a factor 10 too low. That projector sells for around $200 at other places.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 10:40:12 pm
content: I saw something similar, not quite that cheap, and found some teardown pics.basically what it consisted of was a QVGA LCD panel with no rear reflector, a white LED, and some fresnel lenses.e.g.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 11:24:01 pm
content: Dave did a teardown of a similar unit:They are just awful quality.

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2014, 11:59:32 pm
content: Ebay, really just another form of gambling. As long as you are aware of the dangers. Paypal gives you some security.I picked up my microscope off ebay (Canadian company) and it works excellent and was a good price. So not problem there. I picked up an unbranded 720p LED projector (China) 6 months ago for 330 bucks and it works quite well. Have seen better but not for that amount of money. The down side is that if the gear develops a fault warranty would be a big issue.

author: AlessandroAU
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2014, 08:19:12 am
content: Mine was posted today, complete with tracking number. I'll let update when whatever they've sent me arrives

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2014, 08:56:06 am
content: also this seem to be really cheap toohttp://www.ebay.com/itm/SJ4000-Black-12MP-HD-1080P-Car-Cam-Sports-DV-Action-Waterproof-Camera-2x-Battery-/201249354336?pt=AU_Video_Cameras&hash=item2edb657260

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2014, 09:44:08 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on December 26, 2014, 09:24:56 amyeah i don't care if its a fake camcorder or just a crap fake SJ4000 for the price it would be ok but i think the listing might be a scam???

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2014, 10:05:47 am
content: just decided to bite the bullet and get one of the projectorswill post back if i get it or not

author: magetoo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2014, 11:09:30 am
content: Quote from: dannyf on December 25, 2014, 02:33:28 pmI put a smiley in there for a reason too. It was a joke.But you probably know that already.

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2014, 11:19:04 am
content: also found this seller selling the camera cheaphttp://www.ebay.com/itm/SJ4000-Black-12MP-HD-1080P-Car-Cam-Sports-DV-Action-Waterproof-Camera-2x-Battery-/201248770707?pt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Cameras&hash=item2edb5c8a93

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2014, 01:26:01 pm
content: A 640x480 LCD module alonecan cost morethan $19...even from China.A 640x480 projector usually costs 10x more, so I would beware of scam, but there's always the possibility they've messed up their decimal point.Quote from: pickle9000 on December 25, 2014, 11:59:32 pmThat is a more reasonable price.

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2014, 12:33:26 am
content: mine shipped today with tracking number ill let you know what ever turns up

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2014, 02:10:02 am
content: If it works, and is easy to open/repair - go for it.Even as a static 'server status' display or miniature reverse-projection Santa bauble - it's worth $19Not everything has to be a Bentley or Veyron.Just enjoy it for what it is - like your kids.Some of them won't turn out to be Kate Upton or Einstein either.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2014, 04:18:26 pm
content: It probably beats hands down that expensive TV that my parents had when I was a kid. ;-)

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 27, 2014, 06:33:57 pm
content: I bought one too, couldnt resistWill take a look at it sometime in January

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2014, 07:45:58 pm
content: Quote from: zapta on December 27, 2014, 04:18:26 pmFirst tv I remember was a couple black and white boxes piled on top of each other. One for picture the other for sound, certainly beats that.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2014, 07:57:20 pm
content: Quote from: Halon on December 25, 2014, 11:24:01 pmLol, I noticed Dave attracted some controversy when he destroyed it by stabbing the woofer.I say good on him for doing it. The unit was unsafe so rendering it beyond use was the right thing to do, as it stops someone else from finding it, using it and burning their house down or being electrocuted.I doubt any of the components were really worth reusing. I suppose the copper and steel/iron in the transformer and speaker could be worth recycling but only if you have a large quantity. Take the unit to your local ewaste facility and hope they recycle most of the materials.

author: kolbep
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2014, 08:12:25 pm
content: Could be a fun little teardown.And Maybe can be useable for something....Maybe can use it in the bedroom as a small TV/Computer display.I Have just ordered one, will see if it arrives... (They say between 1st and 7th January 2015.....) We will see.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2014, 08:45:47 pm
content: QuoteA rare example of the seller actually acknowledging what it is really worth.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2014, 09:59:45 pm
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on December 25, 2014, 12:35:20 pmI just bought one for all the spare leads alone.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 01:33:13 am
content: I just purchased the 1280x800 native one to see. Hard to complain if I get burned.Same price as the other and better specs.Actually I confused the price with the prices of some other things. But it is still so very inexpensive it ws worth the risk and some fun.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 02:09:29 am
content: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3500lumens-1280-800-Home-theater-LED-Projector-USB-TV-Full-HD-3D-1080P-WIFI-/281541489835

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 03:08:15 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on December 28, 2014, 02:54:22 amHigh wattage LED needs a big honkin' fan.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 03:12:04 am
content: ebay is a great place to buy weird stuff, if your expectation is low.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 05:27:06 am
content: Quote from: dannyf on December 28, 2014, 03:12:04 amIf it does only a quarter of the claim it will work for me........At worst it will be a TV set.

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 06:12:37 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on December 28, 2014, 02:54:22 amwish i had seen this before i bought the other one

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 04:10:18 pm
content: The photoshopped projectors sitting on the table in their "factory" picture is amusing... and Googling the number in the image' URL it looks like they're also selling on Taobao, since I foundtheir 1280x800projector there, butit sells for almost exactly 10x as muchso I'm starting to think this is a deliberate scam of some sort.Edit: also found the brand "V-weny" here on AliExpress:http://www.aliexpress.com/store/504849It looks like you may be getting a projector bulb instead of a projector. Even the LED for their projectorscosts a lot more...This is the real item for the 1280x800 projector, note the seller name and the identical pictures:http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3500lumens-1280-800-Home-theater-LED-Projector-USB-TV-Full-HD-3D-1080P-WIFI-/261464174513?forcev4exp=true

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 07:29:07 pm
content: I am looking forward to unboxing and teardown videos of those lovely devices.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 07:49:11 pm
content: According to fleabay it has been shipped........

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 28, 2014, 08:58:24 pm
content: Mine has be claimed to be shipped too. I agree that the pricing is suspicious. That seems to be the only thing really. All other signs seem to indicate a valid ebay seller with valid products. I do suspect I will be disappointed in the end but what the hell.... it is a gamble and a cheap one.

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2014, 07:21:28 am
content: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-Newest-UC30-Mini-Pico-portable-proyector-TV-Projector-AV-VGA-A-V-USB-SD-with/32257362334.html

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2014, 01:05:32 pm
content: "UC30 Mini Pico ..."Ultra Cheap?I hope it comes through for everyone.

author: Mr.B
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2014, 06:30:52 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on December 28, 2014, 07:49:11 pmMine too.Interesting - this morning (NZ time) the sellers store is no longer listing consumer electronics. Only clothing and bags.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2014, 08:51:51 pm
content: Quote from: Mr.B on December 29, 2014, 06:30:52 pmMaybe they are the same clueless people/computers behind StreetAutoParts (or whatever it was called)

author: Mr.B
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2014, 08:57:33 pm
content: Maybe...I am very interested to see what actually turns up.Well worth the 20 bucks for the entertainment value.

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2014, 09:18:32 pm
content: Quote from: Mr.B on December 29, 2014, 08:57:33 pmit sure is

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 29, 2014, 10:52:16 pm
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on December 29, 2014, 08:51:51 pmThat one ended with lies from the seller, quick cancellation of orders and refund via PayPal, not eBay system. Thus, some people were left with "unpaid" orders in their basket.

author: Mr.B
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 12:50:33 am
content: Quote from: electr_peter on December 29, 2014, 10:52:16 pmAre you referring to StreetAutoParts or the item that is the subject of this thread?I have had shipping notification - not that that means much.Sale has not been cancelled or returned to an unpaid state...

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 02:32:19 am
content: Quote from: Mr.B on December 30, 2014, 12:50:33 am+1

author: Mr.B
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 02:41:28 am
content: As at 1540hrs here in NZ, the seller "jiangshu91" no longer has any items listed.Perhaps they have just woken up to the fact that their pricing bot screwed up...

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 02:44:54 am
content: QuoteOr, Santa has left the building,Would still be interesting to see where this whole thing ends. I hope people get their stuff. But it does smell like a con.Often times, people get con'd because of their greed: "I cannot pass up on that GREAT deal". As they say, if it is too good to be true, ...

author: Mr.B
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 02:47:53 am
content: Quote from: dannyf on December 30, 2014, 02:44:54 amBuyer protection...I just have to wait until next Tuesday.If it hasn't turned up, I will get my money back.If by some chance I don't get my money back, no big deal... It's only $20... I will spend more than that on beer at the pub this afternoon.

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 07:18:13 am
content: Just got this email:We're writing to let you know that we've removed an item you recently won:transaction number removed- New 3500lumens,1280*800 Home theater LED Projector,USB,TV, Full HD,3D,1080P,WIFISince you've already paid for the item, you don't need to do anything else. If your item hasn't arrived yet, it should arrive soon. If it doesn't, then you'll want to open a case in our Resolution Centre. You can learn how to do this, plus find timelines for opening cases, at:http://pages.ebay.ca/help/buy/item-not-received.htmlWe wish you all the best on eBay and hope your future experiences are pleasant and successful. If you have questions, please click "Help & Contact" at the top of most eBay pages.

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 09:04:26 am
content: yeah i went to ebay today and got thisWe had to remove this listing from the site and you're not required to complete the transaction. If you've already sent payment, the sale should process as normal and you don't have anything to worry about. If you have any questions about delivery, please check tracking or contact your seller. If you run into any trouble along the way eBay is here to help. Please visit the Resolution Center to help resolve any problems you may encounter.

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 09:20:17 am
content: Quote from: Mr.B on December 30, 2014, 12:50:33 amYes, StreetAutoParts and Keithley DC PS.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 05:45:06 pm
content: Waiting for the refund, and as well saw that the seller is no longer on Ebay.......

author: Mr.B
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 06:49:44 pm
content: Quote from: sony mavica on December 30, 2014, 09:04:26 amSame message here.I very much doubt the item will arrive.Under normal circumstances one would have to wait until the delivery time had expired before "visiting the resolution centre".In this case the above ebay message now replaces the delivery details.Also, what is not in the above quote from sony mavica is the additional text from ebay: "This user is no longer registered on eBay."The usual process for the resolution centre is to contact the seller first... How is that going to work?Anyway, I will just leave it until next Tuesday and then have the payment reversed.All a bit of harmless fun...

author: sony mavica
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 11:53:02 pm
content: got a refund today

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 01:54:38 pm
content: yea mine is marked as shipped and i got this from ebay:i guess whatever happens i'll get my money back from ebay, but am interested to see if anything does turn up. I somewhat suspect not!Quote

author: kolbep
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 06:09:20 am
content: I opened a dispute in the Ebay resolution center yesterday.Today I get this message :Good news! We issued you a full refund of XXX on Jan 01, 2015. The refund includes the purchase price plus original shipping and has been credited to your PayPal account.This case has been decided in your favor.Comments:After reviewing the seller's recent activity, we decided to expedite your refund.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 10:43:02 pm
content: My ebay resolution centre seems to be trying everything possible to deny any kind of refund... I'm not sure what labyrinth of menu clicks are needed, but the best I have got so far..."This item isn't covered by eBay Money Back Guarantee [ Previous ]Hot! NEW LCD/LED Video Projector Home Theater 1080p HDMI TV HD PS3 Movie NightItem no: 271718610581Sale date:27/12/14 21:58Quantity: 1View order detailsWe're sorry there's an issue with your purchase. Unfortunately, this item isn't in a category covered by eBay Money Back Guarantee.We don't offer buyer protection on items listed in the Real Estate category, certain Motors categories, or in the Classified Ad format. You can try to work out this problem by contacting the seller."Have ebay reclassified it as Real Estate, Motors or Classified Ad in order to shirk their guarantee?

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 03, 2015, 03:57:09 am
content: I received a refund. If you don't get one, contact ebay about it directly instead of using the refund request form.