At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO... - Page 1
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author: peteb2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 06:16:22 pm
content: or a bit of You Tube of it at least..

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 07:59:21 pm
content: Great work finding this Pete.This 500 MHz unit will be a mid BW model in this new SDS5000X range I strongly suspect.WRT comments on AWG, Siglent may be choosing to use the external SAG1021 module as they do for the SDS10004X-E series. That unit is USB powered and controlled in the scope UI.https://www.siglentamerica.com/accessory/sag1021/The front panel rectangular socket looks identical to that on the SDS2kX models and it's the MSO/LA pod receptacle.The SDS2kX uses SPL2016 LA HW:https://siglentna-qwavztc8hvq2w.stackpathdns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/PARTS-LIST_SPL2016.pdfThe vid maker obviously isn't aware of Siglent's longstanding participation with LeCroy and their joint venture of the WS/SDS3000 series that each have rights for in Western/Eastern markets respectively.These 3000 models have been around for some years now and offered BW's to 1GHz.Release info:https://www.siglentamerica.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds5000x/

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 08:12:36 pm
content: they either learned a lot from lecroy or this is going to be a rebadged by lecroy as well.perhaps with adequate horsepower for todaylook at the probus-style BNCs and the user interface!genuinely curious

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 08:21:01 pm
content: Quote from: JPortici on March 15, 2018, 08:12:36 pmSorry for your misunderstanding but no Siglents are rebadges !They make all their own HW !These SDS5kX models have been under development for at least a couple of years that I'm aware of.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 08:22:42 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on March 15, 2018, 08:21:01 pmaah i meant it the other way around!!! that maybe lecroy's going to rebadge it!Quote from: tautech on March 15, 2018, 08:21:01 pmAnd i appreciated what i've seen in this very brief video

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 09:01:54 pm
content: Quote from: JPortici on March 15, 2018, 08:12:36 pmThe probe interface looks just like Lecroy's interface so I guess it will say Lecroy on the badge and probably have made-by-Lecroy firmware outside China. Then again the Lecroy version is likely to lack peak-detect so not interested.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 16, 2018, 01:18:37 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on March 15, 2018, 09:01:54 pmThe vid was from a European trade show, not one in Asia and that indicates it will be a Siglent product for all markets.Word direct from the factory:New SDS5000X will have Peak Detect mode !

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 16, 2018, 08:18:27 am
content: Quote from: tautech on March 16, 2018, 01:18:37 amThat is interesting.. I have a confirmation by LeCroy that "refresh of 3000 series" (whatever that means) will be released soon...Fact that Siglent will release SDS5000X into western markets is interesting..

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 16, 2018, 09:09:54 am
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on March 16, 2018, 08:18:27 amHave a good look through the vid for any sign of a mention of LeCroy in the GUI....there isn't.Unlike the WS/SDS3000 models.It's a Siglent product and entirely theirs to market as they wish.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 16, 2018, 09:45:52 am
content: Quote from: tautech on March 16, 2018, 09:09:54 amI didn't say it was... Quite the opposite, i think Siglent pulled "the rigol" on LeCroy...Anyways, seems like interesting product. I hope price will be right, and that it will be well supported and reasonably bug free..

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 08:40:10 am
content: The four BNC connectors on the rear interest me, I wonder if they finally added a 10MHz reference input?

author: simone.pignatti
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 06:13:43 pm
content: Hello, pics I took at embedded world, the scope will come this year in EU probably immediately before or after the SVA1005X.It has the same touch screen of the SVA1005X.it will have most probably 250Mpts of memory, for sure 8bit vertical resolution.As soon as it will be available in EU we will have it for a test and in stock.

author: simone.pignatti
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 06:17:37 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on March 16, 2018, 08:18:27 amDo not expect nothing exciting by the LeCroy WS3000

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 07:35:09 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on March 16, 2018, 09:45:52 amThe biggest question is: who is going to buy it given Siglent's track record of releasing buggy equipment?I estimate the price will be in the $2000 to $5000 range (above the SDS2000X series) and in that price bracket the hobbyists are spread thin. Companies will require a product which works right straight out of the box the minute it arrives. Waiting for 2 years for Siglent to fix the bugs is not an option. So I really wonder who is going to buy this scope.Also it won't help to make the A-brands lower their prices because the A-brands don't seem to consider Siglent as a competitor at any level. Keysight, Tektronix and Rhode & Schwarz compare their products against eachother, GW Instek, Lecroy and Rigol but Siglent is nowhere to be found.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 08:31:29 pm
content: Quote from: simone.pignatti on March 17, 2018, 06:17:37 pmSadly, I don't... I don't expect anything really new from Keysight either...

author: TAMHAN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2018, 05:27:12 pm
content: As the guy who committed the crime, I just wanted to report in. Sorry for being so silent, but I am overworked as fuck.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2018, 07:17:52 am
content: Quote from: TAMHAN on March 19, 2018, 05:27:12 pmThanks.We all knew very little of SDS5000X models before your vid so thanks for that.Did you find out the amount of memory depth ?

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2018, 07:22:31 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on March 17, 2018, 07:35:09 pmMy current hesitation to buy into Siglent equipment is mostly based on the fact that I don't know what to expect from them, and less on the merits of the actual equipment itself. Support in the long run is everything.

author: simone.pignatti
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timestamp: March 20, 2018, 07:38:15 am
content: Quote from: tautech on March 20, 2018, 07:17:52 amHello, it is 250Mpts

author: Performa01
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2018, 04:25:18 pm
content: I think it’s quite obvious what this is going to be: an SDS2kX combined with the new system architecture and additional user interface elements of the SDS1204X-E plus some further improvements like the 10.1” capacitive touch screen, enhanced probe interface, reference clock in/out and external monitor support.Compared to a SDS1204X-E the SDS5kX has 5 times the sample rate, thus enabling 5 times the bandwidth for the top model and it has almost 18 times the sample memory, hence can capture up to 50ms at max. sample rate.I guess this is going to be a pretty interesting product once again.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2018, 10:31:26 am
content: Info on these new SDS5000X DSO's has just appeared on the Chinese website.There'll be 2 and 4 channel variants with BW's of 350, 500 MHz and 1 GHz.MSO capability will be with the SPL2016 16ch probe set used on SDS2000X models.Rear connectivity:Looking forward to getting my hands on one.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2018, 10:51:15 am
content: So,ballpark price?options, beside the usual?probe interface compatible with probus?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2018, 11:01:46 am
content: Quote from: JPortici on May 24, 2018, 10:51:15 amAs yet we can only guess what western pricing will be but 86,880 Yuan is stated for the 4ch 1GHz model with the 350 MHz 4ch model ~1/2 that.As I surmised the AWGwillbe the SAG1021 25 MHz USB module used on the SDS1004X-E models.Until I sit down and translate it all the rest is unknown excepting what you can wean from the Chinese datasheet:http://www.siglent.com/Chinese_website2014/Datasheet/SDS5000X_Datasheet_DS0105X_C01A.pdf

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2018, 11:09:07 am
content: The DSO is nice and hopefully a nice price toobut why oh why did they not put the inputs directly below each channel control stripand shift the USB, CAL and rectangular black thingie to the other sideAt least they didn't do the -shared controls- thing, now THAT would be a b*mmerAll that aside, it looks the business

author: Performa01
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2018, 11:09:38 am
content: Siglent's new probe interface isnotProBus (LeCroy).