FS: [SOLD]New In Box KEYSIGHT infiniivision MSOX3104T  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: reader1357
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 01:49:24 am
content: Still new in the box,everything is there. calibration done in January 2016.All the specs are here:http://www.keysight.com/de/pdx-x202189-pn-MSOX3104T/mixed-signal-oscilloscope-1-ghz-4-analog-plus-16-digital-channels?pm=spc&nid=-32541.1150366&cc=AT&lc=gerAsking 5000 usd or best offer.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 02:23:18 am
content: Seems yet one more free scopemonth scope appeared.

author: TheSteve
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 03:14:48 am
content: You're welcome to ask any price you like for the scope but just as an FYI Keysight has been selling these direct via ebay for $6400.00 USD.

author: reader1357
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 09:20:10 am
content: Quote from: wraper on December 31, 2016, 02:23:18 amYou,sir, are the most correct.Its too good for my own use.

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 09:36:31 am
content: Why participate in first place then, if have no use for it?

author: ericloewe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 03:30:44 pm
content: What's the official count so far? 10 of them visibly resold?

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 03:53:27 pm
content: Quote from: TiN on December 31, 2016, 09:36:31 ammoney for sure !

author: KD0CAC John
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 04:57:33 pm
content: If I won one I would sell it also , I can afford to buy , so I would sell to get a spectrum analyzer or VNA .

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 09:05:21 pm
content: Offer: 3500 DDP

author: TheSteve
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 11:40:35 pm
content: Did yours happen to include the app bundle?

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2016, 11:53:14 pm
content: Quote from: reader1357 on December 31, 2016, 01:49:24 amCAD or USD?

author: rx8pilot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2017, 06:06:01 am
content: I kept mine and use it daily! Such a great piece of gear.Sent from my horrible mobile....

author: reader1357
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 01, 2017, 09:50:24 pm
content: Quote from: TiN on December 31, 2016, 09:36:31 amWell, I didn't do my homework. I thought its just going to be one of these 300 dollar scopes.

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2017, 06:50:14 am
content: Quote from: TiN on December 31, 2016, 09:36:31 amI think the reality is that most people that really need a scope like that (professionals), would already have bought it, because the investment is not so big for a business (for the 3000-series scope that is). Those who didn't, in most cases find to the scope too expensive for their own personal use, and that will remain so, even if they won it (because they know you can always resell it).So if you want people to keep their scope after they won it, then only professionals should be allowed to enter the competition, and only the ultra-expensive scopes should be given away. This could give a boost to these small businesses who were scared to make a big investment like that.However, I do not think that this would be a good solution. Like it is today, maybe a lot of scopes will be resold, but that does not mean the money is not used for other electronics hobby gear or projects materials, bringing also much “electronics joy” to the winner of the scope.

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2017, 02:37:27 pm
content: Quote from: _Wim_ on January 02, 2017, 06:50:14 amInteresting idea. Implicates some presuppositions:No professional will ever sell a won oscilloscope. (Perhaps there is a law?)No professional will ever participate at scopemonth if the scope is notexactlywhat he needs (especially if it exceeds his requirements).No professional will ever, under no circumstances, enter a competition "just for fun". (He/She will do it only at the purpose of the aquisition of an urgently needed scope.)Or simply: Every professional has to be a hoarder...But that´s all off topic.What exact oscilloscope is available:200MHzwith software bundle?500MHzwithout options?(Correction: Specs visible in the first posted link.)

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2017, 03:24:11 pm
content: Quote from: _Wim_ on January 02, 2017, 06:50:14 amThat is a misconception. A business needs more equipment than an oscilloscope so the costs add up quickly. Why do you think there are so many used equipment dealers?

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2017, 07:07:39 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on January 02, 2017, 03:24:11 pmYou have a point (and also ProBang2 above). Guess there is no way to avoid people selling there scopes afterwards. But if they do for a very fair price, others who do need a scope like that can benifit also...

author: Iwanushka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2017, 08:12:46 pm
content: Hi there,EE is my hobby which might one day became a startup or w/e, so constrains that limits lottery only to "pros" and implicates that pros are a company that is already making money so it makes no sense to even allow a company to join this kind of a lottery. Also I would never sell this kind of gear, I have a crappy one hung low scope that you can't trust (I had one side job where I had to trouble shoot f**ked up ABB design and provide "instructions to them so they can fix their crap it took me 1 week instead of 1 day because my scope is freezing, trigger does not work on deep memory and so on, at least that side job paid for my old one hung low scope and allowed me to replace it with another one Rigol 1054Z...). and I can't afford a few years income for a scope just because there is a change to to get more side jobs or make a startup someday.And now seeing that those scopes went to guys that can't even replace a light bulb (no offence to the guys who need them and use them) is kinda killing me each time I see them go on sale...

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2017, 09:28:17 pm
content: Quote from: Iwanushka on January 02, 2017, 08:12:46 pmI also would not encourage this, but I just wanted to explain (in not such clear way...) that probably most hobbyist (and also most professionals and as explained above by nctnico and ProBang2, ) probably will end up selling the scope anyway.I also would have loved to have a scope like this, but it is more of a "want" thing than a "need" thing. My Rigol ds1054z can do most things I need, and for the things it can't, I have to find a workaround. I am also unsure what I would have done if a won a scope in the Keysight competition...So I would not be hard on the people selling their win, as long as they ask a fair price for it so other members of the forum have the opportunity to buy a brand new scope for a good price...

author: Vgkid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2017, 09:50:25 pm
content: Correct me if i'm wrong. I seem to recall a thread talking about this somewhere.Wouldn't you still have to pay the taxes on the scope you accept. If you immediately turn around and sell it, you would still be making a profit, not as big of one. So whoever buys it gets a cheaper scope, and you get some money. A win-win for both individuals.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 03, 2017, 12:43:43 am
content: QuoteI agree with that. One of my fears for bargain stuff is that I come to rely on it and then it breaks - now I have to shell out far more than I'd like to get back where I was, and the chance is that I just couldn't afford to. Best to live within ones means if it's important (like for business). Thus something like this scope would be much better as a superior toy for a hobbyist, who can benefit from the enhanced facilities but isn't going to come a cropper if/when it goes titsup.'Course, if Icouldafford one I'd have it already so wouldn't need to pin hopes on a competition for one

author: Dubbie
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 03, 2017, 04:58:04 am
content: I bought my 3000T because I was sad at not winning oneI guess that is one customer that the campaign won!Sent from my phone using Tapatalk

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 03, 2017, 06:24:12 am
content: Quote from: Dubbie on January 03, 2017, 04:58:04 amI said something along those lines when the Giveaway was running. Not everybody would be in the financial position to succumb - but the fact you did made me smile. I'm sure Keysight would have a few more such wins - from various degrees of influence.I take it you like the scope?

author: Dubbie
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 03, 2017, 07:15:05 am
content: I do like it a lot. For the first couple of weeks I kept reaching for knobs that weren't there or in a different place, but I'm used to it now.It's nice thinking "I wonder if I can xxxxx..... yep, there's a feature to do that!"Sent from my phone using Tapatalk