Carrying bag for Siglent SDS2000X Plus? - Page 1
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author: smallfreak
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 07:41:40 am
content: I have this great scope for a while now and since it does not have a permanent place on the desk and I occasionally will have to take it with me, I'm looking for a reasonable bag.I know of the "Siglent BAG-S2" but that's quite expensive and roughly double the price of the "Siglent BAG-S1" that is not listed as compatible with the "SDS2000XPlus" series, but seemingly suitable for the SDS2000X-E.Does anyone know the difference that makes such a hefty price tag on the S2?Does one know whether the "X-Plus" (along with probes) would fit safely into the S1 bag too?Would anyone recommend a different bag for this scope? I do not ship the scope in a plane or a hardrock tour bus.I know, compared to some other transport boxes/bags for premium scopes, 119€ + VAT do look cheap. But at this price I might end up mounting a handle to the product box that I got it shipped.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 08:45:07 am
content: Quote from: smallfreak on August 28, 2023, 07:41:40 amYou could try a Google search for "Cooler Bag With Pockets" and see what results you get in your region. My search reveals some really good looking padded cases with a carry handle or strap in addition to storage pockets for probes, leads and stuff. The only problem is they never list the internal dimensions so you might need to ask the seller beforehand. This is exactly what I use for my old Tektronix TDS-1002 as I couldn't find anything that was a better fit and gave the same protection.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 09:11:57 am
content: Quote from: smallfreak on August 28, 2023, 07:41:40 amSDS2000X Plus will not fit into the S1 bag, no way ! Much too tall.S2 while expensive is a nice and well padded bag and will comfortably fit the scope, probes, leads and other bits and bobs.A hard case like a Pelican is the only other option but even these can cost $50-100+.See here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-coming/msg4534688/#msg4534688https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2104x-hard-shell-carry-case-hc-1-363236/

author: smallfreak
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 03:10:19 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on August 28, 2023, 08:45:07 amI like the idea.However, my current research showed up many bags that have pretty marketing images but look quite shabby when examined closely. The sloppy bags don't seem to protect the front of the scope in a reasonable manner. I did not yet check in real, just judging the images. Won't such bags collect moist and start smelling if you store them closed over a longer time?Meanwhile I did some measures on the cubature of the scope. While the overall form of the scope is quite square, the front has protruding knobs and the back protruding feet that both seem to need rather thick lining to relief them from mechanical stress during a transport.My old analog scope had a sturdy plastic cap that covered the entire front.Looking at the remaining options like "photo equipment boxes" makes me think favorably for the BAG_S2 again, even if it is tripple that of a cheap hardbox. I still believe the bag does not need to get priced analog to the scope models that are going to get storedHow is the problem with the protruding knobs solved in the original bag. Are there recesses for them, or is this just thick lining to keep the knobs from mechanical stress when carrying in the bag?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 07:50:15 pm
content: Quote from: smallfreak on August 28, 2023, 03:10:19 pmS2 bag fits several Siglent models and does not have reliefs to suit any controls.They are a padded carry/storage bag.If better physical protection is the requirement for frequent shipping, a hard case may be the better choice.Let's do a reality check to put case/bag costs into a proper perspective; the scope is $1500 new, is 10% of that cost too much to ensure it is well protected when carried/shipped ?

author: Veteran68
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2023, 11:49:56 pm
content: Do you have something equivalent to a Harbor Freight tools store in your country/area? In the US they sell a lot of cheap imported tools, virtually all from China. Basically a brick & mortar AliExpress for tools.They sell thesePelican knockoff Apache brand hard cases in a variety of sizes and colors. The 4800 XL size is just $60 US and looks like it should fit easily (maybe even the next size down would fit). You pick/cut out the foam to fit the scope and this would provide far greater protection than any soft bag.I haven't looked but you might find something similar from AliExpress for about the same price.

author: smallfreak
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2023, 08:06:36 am
content: Quote from: tautech on August 28, 2023, 07:50:15 pmNo. If it does it's job right, $100 may well be a reasonable price.I still prefer paying for things doing a certain task, independent of the object at what it is to be applied.But to follow your argument would mean, that a $10.000 scope that is 3cm taller than mine and does not fit in the $100 bag would justify a price of $1000 for the very same bag - just 3cm taller? After all it's just 10% of the value to be protected, right? What if it is NOT taller than mine and DOES fit into the same bag. Would that be suitable to protect it? If not, then it is not suitable for the cheaper one either. If I buy all upgrade licenses and end up with a scope worth >$3000, would that justify to pay $300 for the very same bag?Either it does it's intended job right, or not. It has no relation to the price of the object within. At least it should not.If it has features, tailored to fit the specific need of the protected object - that justifies a different calculation. For instance, it could need different cushions for the different geometry and front panel relief. If it's just 5% larger than the previous one, a 100% surcharge is still a rip-off, no matter if it's "just 10% of the scope" or "just 50 bucks more".You know, all those "a few % do not matter" may in the end sum up to values that do. It might make a difference, if I tell you that the scope luckily was paid by the insurance, because my previous scope was wrecked by a flooding. I do not earn any money with it and all additional wishes are my own private money, where I tend to keep expenses at the "necessary" level. Reworking the shipping box is still not ruled out yet.It's not greed or parsimony. If I have the option to get the same result with a $50 bag plus a nice dinner with my wife - I will prefer the latter, as this does matter.If it turns out that this bag is the optimal solution, I happily pay the price without regret - and my wife will still get her dinner.Quote from: Veteran68 on August 28, 2023, 11:49:56 pmI stumbled over similar boxes from my local Amazon. They sell under various names and are quite cheap - in every meaning of the term. But if you want a Samsonite or Peli, you will have to pay one. As told, I don't think about taking the device on a jungle trip or whitewater rafting, so they certainly will do and even survive the next flooding of the basement.I'd wish they would be 2-3cm more in height. Almost all of them (having suitable length) are 14-15cm in inner height or even lower. The scope has a depth of 138.8mm and therefore would just barely fit into them, leaving no or almost no vertical room for the cushion - or it is tightly pressed. I'm looking at a 20cm height box, but that is 50cm in length and thus overly big.The back profile of the scope is sculpted in a way that it easily would have been able to save 2-3cm in depth. Certainly this is done intentionally, maybe to keep the center of gravity safely within the bottom rectangle when tilted, or it is meant to store cables underneath when stowerd away. Who knows? The manual does not tell about it. Maybe a safety measure to ensure enough airspace for the vent when placed against a wall.

author: Veteran68
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2023, 12:36:59 pm
content: A 20"/50cm interior width sounds perfect to me, actually.I findthis one on Amazonwith dimensions: Outer: 19.78" x 15.77" x 7.41" (50cm x 40cm x 18.8cm) Inner: 18.06" x 12.89" 6.72" (45.8cm x 32.7cm x 17cm)So not quite 20cm deep but 17cm, which is better than 14-15cm. That should give you 1.5cm of padding on either side, depending on how dense the foam is that maybe be enough if you don't intend to climb Everest with it. The 458mm interior width also gives you ~5cm on either side which isn't too much empty space IMO. Shift it to 2cm from one edge and you have 7cm on the opposite edge to create a pocket for probes and such.Granted this one is $94 US but if protection was my main concern, I'd rather pay $100 for a hard case than $100 for a soft one.Otherwise you can always cheap out with a gym bag and some rolled up T-shirts.

author: smallfreak
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2023, 08:20:42 am
content: Quote from: Veteran68 on August 29, 2023, 12:36:59 pmI foundthis oneand I bet it is made in the same factory.This one is a bit smaller and half the price, but the next bigger one is a bit bigger than yours. Yours might be "just big enough". I keep looking. Someone will have the right size.Aliexpress research was not successful so far. Plenty of boxes, but comparing sizes is horrible. And you tend to land on the same sellers every other klick, as they are indistinguishable in the search.Thank you all for the various ideas and options where to look for a suitable bag/box if I don't want to order the native brand item.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 30, 2023, 09:27:02 am
content: Quote from: smallfreak on August 30, 2023, 08:20:42 amhttps://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804094132461.html?Select 2nd to largest size.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 31, 2023, 09:51:31 am
content: I use a small Stanley tool bag for my (Rigol) oscilloscope. Fits like a glove. So consider grabbing the scope and taking it to a hardware/DIY store and seeing what fits!

author: giovannirat
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 02, 2023, 07:00:14 pm
content: I bought this one from Amazonhttps://www.amazon.de/dp/B07DZK3R43?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1Perfect for my SDS2000X Plus after adapting the foam interior..