Dilbert loses newspapers, publishers, distributor, and possibly its website - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Black Phoenix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 12:51:53 am
content: Some time ago I remember seeing a post about Dilbert being in hot water because of some journals dropping his daily strips.As something that is part of most the engineers and office workers daily routine to check the new strip released, I thought it would be good to point this news.https://www.thepopverse.com/dilbert-comic-scott-adams-newspaper-syndicationQuoteQuote

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 01:05:07 am
content: I don't think it's going to matter. The only place I've read Dilbert in the past 15+ years is on its own website and some of the books. I'm sure Adams will find somewhere to host it, and sooner or later the outrage mob will find something else to focus on.

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 02:02:41 am
content: Print media; newspapers, magazines, and the like, become more and more irrelevant everyday. Their banning Scott Adams is a perfect example of why.I'll continue reading Scott long after their rags print their last distortion.

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 02:16:08 am
content: Scott Adams has been pulling back the curtains to show who is running the show for decades now. This time he exposed a group that trades on the image of having no power. It outraged them and it is ironic watching them use the power they don't have to poke back.

author: newbrain
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 09:03:47 am
content: The guy was borderline amusing 30 years ago.It got boring, repetitive, mean and just unfunny quite soon so I stopped following it, then, still many years ago, I happened to read some of the things he had written - what an entitled and self-righteous asshole.He is free to spout his latest inflammatory bigotry, others are free to not want to listen or be involved with him.Freedom of speechgoes both ways, does not mean you are entitled to have a platform.IMNSHO, YMMV.Were I a moderator, I would probably lock this post - not technical, and quite prone to devolve in a shitfest.I'll report myself.EtA: Done.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 09:09:15 am
content: I don't see how Dilbert is any different to any other form of media, fashion trend, design, or colour etc... One could argue The Simpsons has outstayed its welcome*.I'm all for sharing an opinion, particularly a popular one... but is it even vaguely relevant to EEVblog?*I'm not suggesting this is the case.

author: TomKatt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 11:23:52 am
content: Quote from: newbrain on February 28, 2023, 09:03:47 amFor all the clinging flag calls of 'Freedom' and 'Rights', many people only seem to think it applies to them - and if you choose not to participate, they've been maligned and 'cancelled'.Quote from: Halcyon on February 28, 2023, 09:09:15 amDoesn't Dilbert use computers in the office?But yeah, topics like this are likely to get out of hand.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 12:58:19 pm
content: While we are on the subject of, Scott Adams.There seems to be differences of opinion, as to if he was an actual (job function) engineer or not, when he was working for employers, before he became famous.There is agreement, he worked with actual engineers, but not if he (job functionality wise) was one himself.

author: TomKatt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 01:12:09 pm
content: Quote from: MK14 on February 28, 2023, 12:58:19 pmWell, I don't know if he was an engineer, but a Scott Adams certainly created several great text adventure games. I think Adventureland was the first cartridge I got for my Vic 20

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 01:23:49 pm
content: Quote from: TomKatt on February 28, 2023, 01:12:09 pmThanks, but I think that is a different 'Scott Adams'.http://www.adventureclassicgaming.com/index.php/site/interviews/129/Quote

author: TomKatt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 01:28:45 pm
content: Yeah I knowI was making a funny by referring toaScott Adams.And as much as I'd like to thinkmyScott Adams wouldn't make a video rant likethatScott Adams, I guess you never really know people you don't really know.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 03:02:15 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on February 28, 2023, 09:09:15 amDilbert is an engineer. Sometimes he is a bit of software, sometimes a bit of hardware, sometimes a bit of network engineering. And the phenomena that Scott shows in his cartoon is very much relevant to todays office culture, I see it every way, and having a cartoon for it is nice to have. We don't get that much representation.Quote from: Black Phoenix on February 28, 2023, 12:51:53 amYeah, I think he was cancelled a few times now.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 03:10:45 pm
content: As usual it's a big overreaction. I don't think what he said was even that bad, even though I don't completely agree with it, given so people say the same with the races swapped all the time. It just proves the double standard.I think he just wanted to retire and decided to do so by getting himself cancelled. Good on him.

author: TomKatt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 03:27:47 pm
content: Quote from: Zero999 on February 28, 2023, 03:10:45 pmEither that, or he's just an idiot.Agree or disagree on the topic, if you hold a public position or your employment relies on the public at large, going on a rant like that today is simply guaranteed to have consequences, most likely affecting your employment.I hope he feels better getting that off his chest. He's certainly going to pay for the privilege. And whining about it won't change anything.

author: newbrain
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 03:44:07 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on February 28, 2023, 03:02:15 pmI definitely don't want or need to be represented by a misogynist, racist and pretentious asshole.And even forgetting that, as a reminder, he's decidedly on the PHB side, not "ours".Some might find Dilbert's strips to be funny (I disagree), but in this time and age it's truly difficult to keep separate an author and their work.It might have been easier before the Internet.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 03:45:32 pm
content: Quote from: TomKatt on February 28, 2023, 03:27:47 pmThere is a large movement to build alternatives to the access media.A few reports are saying he is joining the Daily Wire, and got a large contract.

author: TomKatt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 03:50:05 pm
content: I believe that psychological studies have shown that people tend to migrate towards information sources that align with beliefs they already espouse.That Fox News is the #1 rated 'news' service in the US proves that to me. That recent leaks reveal they prioritized viewership ($) over facts is likewise unsurprising.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 03:54:45 pm
content: So, when Rasmussen reveals that 47% of black Americans do not consider it okay to be white, that is not a problem; but when Scott Adams then says that that kind of attitude means there is no way to have a working multicultural society, and for "[white people] to get away from [black people]",heis the racist, far-right neo-nazi (as todays ExplosmEntertainment "comic" suggests)?When ideology and isms beat logical and rational thought, the world is lost.Modern humans do not seem to think much if at all, and ratherexperiencethe world solely through theiremotions. We are well on our way to becoming an urban eusocial species, it seems.That said, the Rasmussen poll would never have been published in Finland. They would have been heavily fined and possibly ejected from Finland, for incitement to ethnic or racial hatred against black people. Such racist statistics are illegal here in Finland. (And racism is defined here as the oppression of ethnic or racial groups by white people.)

author: TomKatt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 04:04:56 pm
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on February 28, 2023, 03:54:45 pmPolls and statistics are heavily related - you can massage either to present the result you desire.FWIW, the phrasing is important here - 47% of Black Americans didnotsay they do not consider it okay to be white. The poll asked if the respondentagreed with the statement"Is it OK to be white?". A subtle difference, but an important one. Of course, their sample size was a grand total of 1,000 people, only 13% of which were Black. So, even within their poll, they are suggesting that 47% of 13% of 1,000 people disagreed with the statement.Of course, the bigger issue is that Rasmussen polling is pretty much right wing biased to begin with.Quote from: Slate Magazonehttps://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/02/dilbert-scott-adams-racist-rant-black-hate-explained.html

author: newbrain
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 04:09:35 pm
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on February 28, 2023, 03:54:45 pmSorry Nominal Animal, but I think you are being naïve here."It's OK to be white" does not have only a literal meaning and Rasmussen is is a very biased and unreliable poll house.Since I highly esteem your intelligence, I'll leave you the burden of checking on the above.It might not change your opinion (and I already know we differ quite a lot there), but it will at least be informed.

author: TomKatt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 04:19:12 pm
content: I will say this much - Freedom of speech is important. But as with anything important, it is subject to abuse.The reality is that human races are different. Sociallyandphysically. We ought to embrace and celebrate those differences rather than use them against each other. We can strive to be "one species" understanding we are comprised of multiple branches.Any discussion about race is likely to become sensitive, which is unfortunate because to deny we are different is to deny reality. And that one race has abused another over the course of history doesn't help much either. But without discussion, we're not likely to solve issues that drive wedges between us.

author: Sal Ammoniac
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 04:19:19 pm
content: No matter what tint of glasses you look through, the U.S. remains a society where racism and misogyny is deeply ingrained. Adams seems to be someone who wears his opinions on his sleeve and amplifies it with his podcast.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 04:33:52 pm
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on February 28, 2023, 03:54:45 pmThere is a large push from the postmodernist woke to redefine words. To give you a very good example:"Words are violence." If this statement is true, and we have institutions to reduce the violence on citizens, then it's acceptable to call the police on people that used words that are "unacceptable" (please read our current list of unacceptable words, updates every Wednesday and Friday). And that's how you change the law without rewriting it. Don't believe me? There was 3300 UK citizens arrested in 2017 for social media posts.“using public electronic communications network in order to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety”https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/schedule/17/paragraph/169?view=plainIf someone, anyone really, thinks that the truth isinconvenientand you write about it, you can get arrested in the UK. And the same is coming everywhere, where this kind of mentality gets root. Welcome to the land of the free.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 04:41:55 pm
content: Old white guy says stupid old white guy thing. And faces the consequences.Seriously, replace "black" with "Jewish" and you'd have something not out of line with what would be said under the Nazis. Utterly unacceptable. History doesn't repeat itself, but it sure as hell rhymes.I've never really enjoyed Dilbert so I guess I won't miss it slowly fading off, though I suspect that Adams will still have followers and revenue from other streams for some time and I'll be he'll be fine in his pseudo-retirement.

author: jonpaul
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2023, 04:47:06 pm
content: Dilbert was a pseudonym in WWII, Vietnam wars for AF pilot's that messed up...Wrong flaps...into Saigon IFR...Dilbert bought the farm...Scott Adams worked at Pacific Bell Téléphone in 1980s where he had the comic strip concept.many fine characters, comics, books.Best réf is his websiteJon