Discount for european shops? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: tsaG
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 10:51:18 am
content: Hi, is there a shop in the EU that will provide discounts for eevblog users?regards

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 11:44:26 am
content: Not a discount code, but you could take a look atbatterfly.comfor pricing, particularly on Hakko products (there is a UK English option at the top center of the page).Another would betme.eu(they carry more stuff, including components AFAIK). They're also a Brymen distributor, and offer excellent prices on them.Finally, althoughTEquipment.netis located in the US, they do ship internationally. So they may actually be the cheapest, depending on what you're looking for.I'll send you a PM.

author: tsaG
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 11:59:42 am
content: Wow, thanks.Yes, Im looking for a Oscilloscope. The offer at TEquipment looks very good but when its shipped to germany, there will be additional sales tax of about 19% (correct?), thats why Im looking for shops within the EU.But thanks, for the links and the PM!

author: markone
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 12:33:16 pm
content: Quote from: nanofrog on February 08, 2016, 11:44:26 amI'm (sadly) in Italy and i can confirm nice price from TME and Batterfly, anyway the latter has a much better customer service.For what concern importing goods from US, right now it's a pointless nightmare due to current USD/Euro exchange rate shipping cost and raised import tax duty.Dunno for Germany, but our custom are proudly slapping our faces ripping not less than 30% (VAT + extra UE Import TAX + custom office cost) on the whole invoice, including shipping cost and if you have problems with your equipment, usually withou international warranty, you have to pay re-shipping cost, tax again on return (in know, it should'nt but actually happens) and so on, definitely it's a no go.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 12:59:28 pm
content: Quote from: tsaG on February 08, 2016, 11:59:42 amI would suspect so as the item/s value will almost certainly be well over 22EUR (22EUR & below= no VAT; no duties collected on 150EUR & lower, or if they fall into a duty-free class). So wouldn't the same 19% VAT be collected regardless of the origin of the vendor?FWIW, I'm wondering if the VAT may actually be collected from you directly by the carrier once it passes through customs* as that is a possibility per EU law on VAT imports, or is collected at the time of sale (try putting one in the shopping cart and see what happens). If you don't get a definitive answer this way, then email them for the particulars. Any additional duties as well for that matter, though I'm curious if this would fall into the same category as say a cell phone or gaming console, which are duty-free (will be over the 150EUR, so it will depend on class).Please note that if the VAT is applied to a lower purchase price + acceptable shipping cost (doesn't exceed what you can find it for anywhere in the EU), you'd still come out cheaper.Duties not withstanding of course, but that will still apply if it's imported; if from a vendor within Germany, you can bet their importation fees, duties, etc. will have been included into the price, and a profit margin applied to all of it.Amazon.de shows the DS1054Z for 618.31EUR for example, and 6.99EUR shipping. Even with VAT included, you're still cheaper to get it from the US (i.e. $375.06 for the DS1054Z, say $50.00 shipping; 19% applied to all of it comes to $505.82, or ~454.73EUR based on xe.com's exchange calculator). So about a savings of 170EUR this way.Now all that said, batterfly would be the best place for you to get one in the EU as it comes out cheaper.They're currently selling it for 327.95EUR before VAT, and free shipping within the EU, so only comes to 390.26EUR total @ a 19% VAT rate (no duties added, so try the cart).For another product, you'd have to check the particulars. But between tme and batterfly, you should be able to find a fair bit of what you're after at decent prices for the EU market.* This can get ugly, as private carriers such as FedEx and UPS have a nasty habit of applying exorbitant fees from what I understand by those that have received packages shipped through these carriers.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:05:10 pm
content: Quote from: markone on February 08, 2016, 12:33:16 pmOuch!Worst I knew of was Hungary @ 27% (just their VAT rate), but it seems rates have changed since then. FWIW, I'd have expected both Italy's and Greece's VAT rates to go up when their economic crisis' hit; but 30% when it's all said and done ... damn.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:13:50 pm
content: Golden rule: Never import something from the USA unless you are truly desperate. You won't profit.Germany has plenty of stores selling equipment, as do we (the dutch).A store with a large catalog (but high average price and slow warehouse) is Conrad. Or Batronix.There are also many local electronic stores that started selling through their website, at least in the Netherlands.These are harder to find using google. But try and play with googles search filters (language/location). And look at page 2 for once. You can also ask local stores to buy it from farnell for you. Some even offer this as a service for parts.Local stores often do not know, or cannot afford, website optimization to be found in google.

author: markone
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:28:01 pm
content: Quote from: nanofrog on February 08, 2016, 01:05:10 pmVAT itself is 22%, but you have to add Extra EU import TAX and courier custom office cost, the total amount is usuallyat least30%, but i have seen a lot of worst cases.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 02:05:30 pm
content: Quote from: nanofrog on February 08, 2016, 12:59:28 pmAmazon is expensive then. In my experience you can find most equipment from European sellers for prices less than you'd have to pay if you get it from outside Europe. You just have to look around a bit.

author: markone
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 03:48:01 pm
content: Quote from: nanofrog on February 08, 2016, 12:59:28 pmAmazon prices for this kind of stuff deserve a lot of LULZ, at least here in EU, for other thing it's much better, especially for customer service.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 03:55:10 pm
content: Quote from: markone on February 08, 2016, 03:48:01 pmGiven what I understand about the EU & labor policies, they probably can't get away with anything near what they do in the US.That said, I see it as a testament as to how far they're willing to go in general terms; meaning they'd be a LOT worse if they could get away with it.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:07:51 pm
content: Quote from: markone on February 08, 2016, 03:48:01 pmBatronix sells the DS1054Z for 410,20 euro including 21% tax (NL rate). From Eleshop.nl you can get it for 403 euro inc. 21% VAT. Nowadays webshops in the EU must apply the tax tariff of the buyers address (country) so the actual price with VAT will vary depending on where you live.@Jeroen: Farnell, RS, etc are terribly expensive (+30% isn't uncommon) when it comes to test equipment!

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:18:11 pm
content: Quote from: markone on February 08, 2016, 03:48:01 pmAmazon sells the FX888D at about the standard price here, ~$100 (check tequipment, sparkfun, all spec, Fry's, and others). It's not a special price by any mean, just easier to deal with them, transactions, shipping and returns.Edit: buying the Amazon FX888D via the EEVBlog Amazon link will result in Dave getting 7% of the sales price, so most likely, even the ~$100 price point includes sufficient margin for Amazon.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 04:49:54 pm
content: Quote from: tsaG on February 08, 2016, 11:59:42 amBatronix is a good place to buy in the EU:http://www.batronix.com/shop/index.htmlNo discount, but good prices anyway...