How Google Plus Screws Youtube Comments - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 25, 2014, 01:01:28 pm
content: If you want to know why I don't respond to your comment on Youtube:http://www.eevblog.com/2014/09/25/how-google-plus-screws-youtube-comments/

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 25, 2014, 01:13:20 pm
content: Maybe I'm just old, but I don't see the point of leaving a youtoob comment anyway; how would I even know if the dude is still active? Why should they give a shit whatIhave to say for myself?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 25, 2014, 01:15:24 pm
content: Quote from: apelly on September 25, 2014, 01:13:20 pmExactly the same reason why you comment on this forum!

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2014, 01:19:48 pm
content: Quote from: apelly on September 25, 2014, 01:13:20 pmYouTube does have a large technical/DIY video presence. There's nothing wrong asking a technical question in the comments on these sort of videos.Now, using the comments on a cat video as a platform to talk about "the Jews being subterranean lizard people" or "Neil Armstrong personally being the brains behind the moon landing hoax" is something completely different.Sent from my Smartphone

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 25, 2014, 01:26:46 pm
content: Here there's a community. Over here a thread dies naturally when everyone's bored of it.I'm prepared to be educated about youtube, but it seems impersonal in the extreme. I rarely even look at comments, but when I do they (almost) always seem out of date, irrelevant, or plain trollish. The same tumble weeds blow through those comments as the comments on old blog posts: "Hey I tried your idea, but it doesn't work... Can you XYZ for me?"

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2014, 05:24:53 pm
content: I thought I read somewhere that Google was in the process of disconnecting G+ from their other services. At any rate, I never see comments on Youtube because it requires some JavaScript that I block. I only allow the minimum required to watch videos. While I have a Google account, it's extremely unusual for me to actually log in.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2014, 06:10:15 pm
content: YT comments are good for chatting, you can do a quick response without leaving the tab, and it more or less works most of the time. At least for me the option is there ( defaulted to not) of posting it on G+, and I tend to get notified of replies ( or if I comment to a post I get thread replies as well) in Gmail as well. Just looked, 39 G+ comments in the dropdown box, all unread......

author: SirNick
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2014, 07:00:56 pm
content: I'm one of those dozen or so people that actually uses G+, but I really hate the changes they've made to integrate them. I don't want to use my real name on the Internet any more than I want to drop my credit card and utility bills on the floor at the mall. Nor do I want every action I take on YouTube to create an event in my G+ profile. So I just created a fake Google account and use that to participate in YT discussions. No, they're not as authentic as the conversation here, but for passing commentary it's fine.The departure from the old thread view was not a positive change either. The more I use YT now, the more I'm starting to think I should check out other video services...

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2014, 10:57:54 pm
content: Quote from: SirNick on September 26, 2014, 07:00:56 pmCheck liveleak, they always have interesting videos, like this onehttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=86a_1411503979Never paid attention to YT comments, audience is too broad which results in low quality.

author: SirNick
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2014, 11:16:51 pm
content: Generally true, however Dave's videos often have insightful commentary. E.g., answering some of his "Anyone know?" questions along the way, or the odd "I used to work on those, if you probe J2 with a tin whisker, ..." etc.

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 26, 2014, 11:36:17 pm
content: I'd be happy if they would make it understandable. I have an original youtube account that is somehow related to my gmail and g+ account. They are intermixed in strange ways. I find the integration rather poor. Whenever I get a notification that someone sent me a comment, it's a wild guess what application I have to open to reply.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 27, 2014, 09:54:11 am
content: Quote from: mojo-chan on September 27, 2014, 09:48:26 amBecause when it comes to video, user base, and search-ability it is the only game in town.Just like Google is virtually the only place people go to search general stuff, Youtube is the only place people go to search for and watch video.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2014, 06:41:46 pm
content: Youtube haters can can try this 'competitor'http://fixyt.com/search?q=eevbloghttp://fixyt.com/search?q=drag+solderingComments are hidden by default which works for me.

author: justanothercanuck
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2014, 11:32:52 pm
content: I heard google silently removed something to do with google plus from gmail... maybe they saw the writing on the wall, and they're going to can plus eventually. here's hoping removing plus from youtube is next.

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 29, 2014, 09:18:54 am
content: on large channels, the way 100s or 1000 of comments on a video are handled by youtube is crap, it needs a way to view like a forum or tree view.

author: SirNick
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2014, 06:53:46 pm
content: Sad thing is, G+ isn't too bad actually. The mandatory service integration sucks, both the "mandatory" and "integration" parts. But as a general social networking platforming, it's quite useful.A year ago, I was involved in setting up web services for a local hacker space. We were going to have a very nicely integrated web presence, with a blog, forum, wiki, RFID badge entry system, RFID access control to tools and materials, and all the expenses (dues and material charges) handled via back-end billing. Unfortunately, there was constant pressure to open shop, before any preparatory work had been done. (Often by announcing things before they were ready, as a means to "encourage them to get done".) And then, significant pressure to use Facebook logins instead of a unique login/password for all our services. Something struck me as inherently wrong with having billing and other personally-identifiable info secured with Facebook's auth system... where people are logged in on every device they own, rarely sign out, and present an enormous surface area to attack. For that and many other reasons, I decided to withdraw from that project.