$129 Lenovo 14" laptops (new) with Windows 10 Pro - Page 1
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author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 06:12:02 pm
content: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/student-laptops/Lenovo-14w/p/81MQ000JUSHere's the link. With coupon code THINKPEEK14 . If you need or can use a fairly mundane Windows laptop for the bench. I just snagged one myself at that price. Almost 90 percent sold out. Good luck if interested.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 06:59:27 pm
content: Good, I was actually looking for something like this. Got one as well. 4G of RAM is the only downside I see.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 07:16:30 pm
content: Quite the bargain. Although specs are not terrific good average laptop.

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 07:17:57 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on November 04, 2019, 06:59:27 pmWel...not exactly.....Quotehttps://www.howtogeek.com/354057/what-is-windows-10-in-s-mode/(although the article claims you can leave S mode as a one-time decision)I'll be curious to hear what you guys think, a couple of weeks after you had a chance to put your hands on it.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 07:21:18 pm
content: Quote from: DimitriP on November 04, 2019, 07:17:57 pmIn my case it is fine, as windows will boot only once to check that it can actually boot. After that Linux will be installed.For me this would be replacing Lenovo IdeaPad with Celeron processor, 32 GB of eMMC and 2G of RAM. That one served me well, but the battery is basically dead.Also, I think S mode can be disabled.Yes, just as the article says:Quote

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 07:24:53 pm
content: with integrated graphics and a single channel of RAM at 1666MHz I would not wish it on anyone. 64GB is hopeless for windows. These feel more like they are hyping it up with a coupon just to shift unwanted stock to unsuspecting poor students.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 07:27:45 pm
content: Well, yes, don't do this for your main computer. That's just silly. For me this is not even the second computer, just the beater move around one.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 07:31:32 pm
content: My father has a similar laptop. it's a disaster but he won't see it because he never listens to me. He bought another one and it's practically the same spec as the one he had. So first time we argued over how much he was willing to spend, then he let my brother in law pick one for him that was as bad but that was OK. So now he has spent what he could have spend on one really decent laptop on two of these peices of junk that are build purely to make a quick sale.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 07:44:27 pm
content: Like I said, it's an extra laptop for the bench. I know what the specs are. Integrated graphics is fine its not a gaming laptop nor for video editing.Not sure why it's moved to Buy/Sell/Wanted forum, since a) I am not the seller of it, b) have no commercial interest in them, and c) half the posts I read on EEV Blog seem to be a discussion of something or other on the marketplace on Aliexpress, eBay or Amazon with links. Not sure how linking to Lenovo is any different. Practically every post in the Test Equipment forum is a discussion of you can by a X for Y dollars. However the mods have made a ruling.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 08:15:16 pm
content: Well it's not about whether or not you are the seller but something is for sale.

author: DimitriP
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2019, 09:01:42 pm
content: QuoteNow it makes more sense

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2019, 01:29:05 am
content: When you view it through the lens of Linux, 4 GB of memory and 64 GB fast SSD, and a nice high-res screen, not bad at all.Look at it this way, if you get just a Raspberry pi then add on a laptop kit (case, phone charger, mini keyboard, mouse, and usually a cheesy 7" LCD), you are already in it for way over the $129 mark for what is basically, just a rats nest of wires and cobbled together stuff.I am probably going to install Linux on mine when I get it, like Alex, and hook it up to a logic analyzer. Right now I am considering getting a LA5016, running Sigrok, (and maybe hook up my scope a Rigol DS1054Z).

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2019, 03:19:14 am
content: Quote from: wnorcott on November 05, 2019, 01:29:05 amN.B. eMMC != fast SSD. The eMMC I have run into on low-end laptops is garbage.My last laptop (Samsung ARM chromebook, 16GB soldered-on eMMC) heavily degraded over time. After 3 years of use the disk write speed was down to 1MiB/s and I suffered horrible lockups under certain heavy-write situations (eg system updates). Didn't want to BGA resolder, so I bought a new (cheap & refurbished) laptop instead.My mother is stuck on an x86 laptop with no SATA connector. The PCB has the pads for it but not the parts, you had to pay another 100 AUD to get that featureSo far her only annoyance is not being able to store all of her movies on it. Going 2 years now and it's still OK, we will have to see how it continues.With 64GB of MMC these devices are already in a much better position than what I experienced, but just be careful not to fall for the "SSD" style marketing many vendors use to describe eMMC-only laptops. Size is everything: more GB is more reliability and more speed; small eMMC is not really that different to an equivalent USB stick; and an actual SATA port removes all headaches.

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2019, 03:26:06 am
content: > AMD A6-9220CWow, isn't that a really recent chip (2019)? I am curious how well it fares in power-efficiency & especially at idle. Really hoping Intel starts getting pressure in the low-power mobile market from an x86 direction.

author: DaJMasta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2019, 07:07:37 am
content: In the tech specs it claims 64GB eMMC as and a 128GB PCIe SSD... not sure what to believe, exactly. The eMMC is about a decent SD card attached to the board - works fine for storage, but not great throughput so not ideal for a main drive. If it's actually got a 128GB proper SSD, boot times are probably quite respectable.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2019, 07:10:41 am
content: Quote from: DaJMasta on November 05, 2019, 07:07:37 amThose are two options, but this specific model is 64 GB eMMC only.

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2019, 01:30:21 pm
content: Must have sold out as it is now showing with Win 10 Pro 64 at $179 with a different coupon code. The extra $50 kills it for me, just looking for something cheap to run my Analog Discovery & Arduino stuff on the road.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2019, 01:52:49 pm
content: Quote from: Whales on November 05, 2019, 03:26:06 am]Yes it is a brand new AMD chip announced this year. The A6-9220C is only 6W TDP. Six watts that is at maximum , including the video since it is a APU. The selling point is up to 10 hours battery life. You can also add a micro SD card for more storage: it has a card reader. For price comparison these laptops cost USD $210 from Amazon.CPU Mark score is here it is 2,021 which makes it identical to the old AMD Phenom 2 X521 that was 65 Watts so the new chip uses 1/10 the power or should I say requires 1/10 the heat dissipation vs the old chip:https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-9220C&id=3455I’ll tell you what guys I will run some benchmarks of the eMMC. The A6-9220C has a CPUMark

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2019, 08:11:35 pm
content: OK I have some more information on the Lenovo 14w. It was on sale yesterday as a "Pre Black Friday Sneak Peek Sale", meaning on actual Black Friday it will be on sale again for $129 as a Door Buster (i.e. sale probably won't last all day).Here is some YouTube fluff on it. "Lenovo 14w Education Model".Product datasheet attached. Information plus some fluff. Very similar if not identical in hardware to the Chromebook 14e Enterprise. The 14w was released in June, 2019 so this is a current model. I am now trying to find out the transfer rate on the internal Micro SD reader and which bus it is on.

author: Old Printer
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timestamp: November 05, 2019, 10:36:29 pm
content: Thanks for the info wnorcott. I will keep track of this thread and maybe get lucky Black Friday. For $130 it is hard to beat for what I want it for, just as something that will run the AD Waveforms software and do some Arduino work. I don't travel all that much so laying out several hundred bucks does not appeal to me, but my requirements are few. I was happy to see that the Raspberry Pi4 release has solved the USB problem that was keeping them from running the Analog Discoveries, but by the time you outfit it with a decent display, PS and the other stuff you get north of $125 in a hurry and then still have to bundle it all together. Assuming the Lenovo has a standard USB port it should do nicely.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 06, 2019, 12:15:00 am
content: More stuff. Hardware Maintenance manual for the 14w (Lenovo system type 81MQ)https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_14w_hmm_201903.pdfHardware manual shows a SSD slot on the motherboard and how to remove/replace it; of course the eMMC is soldered to the mother board so I am not 100% sure that the 64 GB one also includes the SSD slot but it's a M.2 PCIe SSD slot. Now, Lenovo is perverse enough to omit that SSD slot on the 64 GB eMMC models, so no guarantees, but the hardware manual shows there is one there so there is hope of adding a 2nd drive.User guide:http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_14w_ug_en_201903.pdfOld Printer, it has (2) USB 3.0 ports plus a USB-C (3.0) port, but the USB C is also where you plug in the charger. In other words you can only use the USB-C when it's running on batteries.Wifi + Bluetooth 4.2 card is the Qualcomm QCA6174A which Alienware uses on its Core i9 gaming systems so I suppose it can't be too bad. It's a replaceable card.

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 06, 2019, 01:01:17 am
content: Wnorcott, thanks again for the additional info. It would be really great if another drive could be added. As is, the rest of it sounds usable to me. The trick will being online when it hit the market, the door busters don't usually last long and this on will have had some advanced notice so,people will be waiting. Will watch for what you have to say when yours shows up.

author: TheSteve
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 06, 2019, 05:00:19 am
content: From what I have read from people who have the laptop is there is no potential for expansion, it has no sockets of any kind internally. I had actually ordered one of these but will return it. I decided to buy a used ThinkPad from craigslist that is much better for the same money.Still for something brand new with a warranty the price is pretty darn fair.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 10, 2019, 01:50:36 am
content: I received my USD $129 Lenovo 14w yesterday and opened the box today, and set it up. I am posting from it now. I like it. There are several really interesting aspects to this laptop. First of all it has no fan just a heatsink. The AMD A6 only is 7 watts and does not need a fan. The laptop is totally silent. It makes no sound whatsoever other than the sound of keys typing on the keyboard. Running it for 8:00 hours now and the bottom is barely warm. It is not a kid type laptop it is a nice looking, thin, lightweight laptop that has a slower but very modern processor. The AMD A6-9220C processor was introduced this year.Manufacturing date on this PC was July, 2019. It is made in China. There is a 'genuine Windows' sticker on the bottom that says Windows for Education. Upon bootup it reports Windows 10 Pro Education build 18.09. I have done no updates whatsoever as of yet. I made a full image backup and created a system recovery disk on an external DVD writer, and created a USB recovery disk that is capable of reinstalling the operating system. That one took very long to create.It is very lightweight. The top is aluminum. The keyboard and touchpad area is very nice, lightly textured. There is a good keyfeel and the keys are large. I am used to the Lenovo system and their touchpad. The screen is full HD, 1,920 by 1,080 pixels. There are no dead pixels.Wifi connectivity is fine even in the basement worshop that is furthest point from the router. Upstairs it is fine.It is default in Windows S mode however that can be removed but I am in hurry to do so. During the install I installed it as 'privately owned' so I have admin. I assigned the login user to be my Microsoft account.There is less bloatware than any Windows laptop I have bought from any vendor, and far less than any Lenovo. I would say there is none. It installs stubs for Microsoft office that are tiny a few hundred K bytes and asks you if you want to Demo then asks during install if you want to active Windows 365, I just said no. Maybe because this is Windows for Education it has none of the usual BS bloatware and demo programs. Maybe teachers will complain and administrator will not buy them if it came with the usual load of bloatware on it that we get stuck with with for consumer laptops. It comes with Lenovo Vantage. I logged in with my Lenovo account and it recognized me. I use it because it will keep the chipset drivers etc up to date.The USB C port which is 3.0 is used as the charging port too. The charging brick is tiny. It is not much bigger than a USB phone charger. After six hours on AC the charging adapter is barely warm. Now I am running on battery. Afte two hours on battery including to some performance benchmarks it says I still have 78% battery left and 7 hours of runtime remaining.When it was making the USB flash drive recovery drive I also got onto the Windows store and installed Crystal Disk Mark. I was also doing a bit of web browsing. It could do it. Watching with Task Manager CPU was hitting 60 most of the time, peaking to 80 percent when doing all that at once.I will leave you with some measurements on the internal 64 GB eMMC disk and compared to the followingA ADATA S102 32 GB USB 3.0 flash driveA Hitachi 2 GB 3.5" enterprise hard drive connected to USB 3.0 with an Orico drive adapterA current year Mushkin Source 256 GB SSD also attached to USB 3.0 port with the Orico cradleonboard eMMCADATA S102 flash driveHitachi HDD in Orico USB 3.0 cradleMushkin Source 256 GB SSD in Orico USB 3.0 cradle

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 10, 2019, 01:59:40 am
content: EDIT: Sorry, missed that in your post.Wait, are those screenshots resized? Should it be 1920 x 1080 display?

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 10, 2019, 05:27:07 am
content: Quote from: Whales on November 05, 2019, 03:19:14 amI still have an old x100e which is a single core MV-40 with 4GB and a $20 SSD, it's running a lightweight Linux and while it's no speed demon it's usable enough to be useful. This thing has got to be many times more powerful than that.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2019, 12:17:23 am
content: Here is another update this time a benchmark of the internal MicroSD slot on the Lenovo 14w. The MicroSD is a Samsung Evo Select 128 GB, model MB-ME128G, model code MB128GA/AM. It is a class 10 and says "read speeds up to 100 MB/sec, write speeds up to 90 MB/sec". This is currently the top seller on Amazon I just got it today, cost $19.Samsung EVO Select 128 GB MicroSD card

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2019, 12:24:22 am
content: Quote from: james_s on November 10, 2019, 05:27:07 amJames, here is a comparison of the two CPUs. The AMD A6-9920C is about 4.9x faster than the AMD MV-40.https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Athlon-Neo-MV-40-vs-AMD-A6-9220C/179vs3455I am planning to install Manjaro Linux on the Lenovo 14w after a few more tests.

author: kizmit99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2019, 02:09:43 am
content: wnorcott -- thanks for taking the time to post your findingsI grabbed one of these to use to drive a CNC router and mill in my shop, so I'm quite interested in what you're finding.I figured that worst case I could install Ubuntu on it and use it for everything except as a host for Fusion 360 -- I've just verified that it seems to run Fusion 360 quite reasonably (under Win10), so I'm now actually thinking I may just leave Win10 on it.Question - I thought these were supposed to have Win10S(?) (some kind of locked down version of Win10) -- can anyone tell me how to verify that? Because as far as I can tell it seems to be vanilla Win10 to me - for example, I've had no problem downloading and installing 'random' software...

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2019, 02:16:08 am
content: Quote from: kizmit99 on November 12, 2019, 02:09:43 amThis article was already mentionedhttps://www.howtogeek.com/354057/what-is-windows-10-in-s-mode/I personally have never experienced W10S, so I have no idea how it works. But I assumed that you should be locked out of installing random software.

author: kizmit99
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2019, 04:18:05 am
content: Thanks, that helped me confirm that these machines come with "Windows 10 Pro Education" -- and definitely don't seem to be in Secure mode, as I've been able to install stuff (not from the Msoft Store) and change the default browser from Edge.And from Microsoft: "Windows 10 Pro Education is effectively a variant of Windows 10 Pro that provides education-specific default settings. These default settings disable tips, tricks and suggestions & Microsoft Store suggestions."I'm probably going to stick with Windows on this for a bit - just to have access to Fusion 360...

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2019, 06:04:51 am
content: I remember wondering what they were thinking with Win10S, I mean who is going to want Windows that doesn't run any of the existing Windows software? That's the whole point of Windows and the reason that RT flopped hard.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2019, 11:46:45 pm
content: I opened mine to see if SSD connector is there. It is not populated.

author: alank2
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timestamp: November 13, 2019, 12:03:06 am
content: I think the hardware manual talks about an M2 slot of some sort - did you see anything like that when you had it opened up? I got one of these two and it also arrived yesterday. Compared to the horrid Dell Inspiron 11 I have it is a much welcome improvement. The inspiron I have has 32G of storage and it is very slow and I can't get it to load the 1903 update no matter how much space I've tried to free up. I pretty much give up on trying any more with it. The Dell is its superior in every way and feels much faster even though the CPU is only like 40% faster or something. I am guessing that + the disk difference does it perhaps. I like the keyboard on it too. Now I just have to figure out what I want to do with the Inspiron as it is so slow to run win10 anyway and since it can't update to the latest, maybe I'll try a different OS on it.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2019, 12:26:28 am
content: Quote from: alank2 on November 13, 2019, 12:03:06 amYes, that's the one that is not populated. I will attach a picture.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2019, 01:39:46 pm
content: Here is a screenshot of the Windows activation. It says "Windows 10 Pro Education"It does not say it is in S mode, and I have been able to download programs from the next (not only from Windows Store), and to install them. When I installed, I linked the Windows 10 license to my Microsoft account, and during install I said "this is a private machine managed by me" the other option was "this laptop is managed by a school or company" or words to that effect.

author: Old Printer
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timestamp: November 13, 2019, 03:36:18 pm
content: Any speculation on what can be done, if anything, with that M2 slot?

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2019, 04:28:35 pm
content: Quote from: Old Printer on November 13, 2019, 03:36:18 pmI could offer some speculation, then maybe someone more knowledgeable than I can chime in.For the other 14w that have a SSD, Lenovo describes it as "128GB Solid State Drive PCIe". If it's a M.2 NVMe SSD then it is an M keyed socket for for PCIe 3.0 x4 lane. In any case a lot of SSD are B+M keyed, i.e. they fit either.It also looks like it takes a 2240 size SSD as the standard. The original and replacement parts say they are PCI-e. The standard one is PCIe and is B+M keyed but that means we should use a M-key type connector on the motherboard. Here is a look at the actual part or a compatible that is listed by Lenovo for this model as interchangeable.It "might be" this connector from Amphenol but I am including a link to all of them so please check my work PCIE M.2 - 10128798-004RLFhttps://www.amphenol-icc.com/product-series/pcie-m2.htmlOne of them must be right, I would think. Then one could obtain the right M.2 SSD connector and carefully solder it onto the motherboard.Then the next question is will the BIOS recognize the drive. It is a fair bet that the motherboard chipset will recognize it just fine, so it becomes a BIOS issue. To what lengths does Lenovo go to in order to prevent you from upgrading to and SSD? We would want to find out if the 14w version that comes with the SSD connector requires a different BIOS version than the one we have on ours.If Yes, we need to see if it is possible to update the BIOS with the version that accepts SSD, but again, this might be keyed off your serial number on the motherboard.If BIOS however IS compatible with the SSD M.2 slot we just soldered in, then next step is insert the M.2 SSD and boot the machine to BIOS, and see if it recognizes the drive in BIOS.

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2019, 05:13:30 pm
content: wnorcott, thanks for the reply and info. A lot of if's, but certainly worth a look. Seems like at $129 its a no brainer as long as the buyer has expectations that match what it is. As I said, a Raspberry Pi with the peripherals to make it usable are over that price and you still have to wrap it all up, and still no SSD at that point. Now to see if i can score one for the sale. If they have a very limited supply for that price it is going to be tough.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2019, 05:29:34 pm
content: I was installing Linux yesterday and did some digging in the BIOS for that. I saw no references to SSDs. But it is possible that they are disabled until the actual SSD is plugged in.The only things that bothers me with all modern laptops is that trackpad buttons are combined with the touch surface. This is no annoying. I really like to hold my finger on the button, but in this case it falsely detects it as touch and blocks the other finger from moving the cursor.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2019, 05:43:10 pm
content: I think the most likely outcome is that if one solders the missing M.2 PCIe connector on the motherboard and installs a SSD, the BIOS will immediately recognize the SDD and run with it.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2019, 04:30:47 am
content: Quote from: ataradov on November 13, 2019, 05:29:34 pmOMG I loathe this! The trackpad on my X250 is horrid! I would have sent the machine back based on that alone if not for the fact that it also has a nipple mouse and that has physical buttons I can use. It's awkward since they're above the trackpad but much better than that awful clickpad that makes a loud ker-chunk when you press down on it. Worst trend ever, I would without hesitation pay $250 for a clean drop-in touchpad with a pair of proper physical buttons below it. I can't believe everyone is still making the button-less clickpads, everybody seems to hate them.

author: wraper
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timestamp: November 14, 2019, 04:46:56 am
content: Quote from: ataradov on November 13, 2019, 05:29:34 pmTo me what's annoying is not that as such but how it's made. It's a single tact switch under surface, and detecting which button is pressed is combination from touch + switch. Of course it works/feels like crap, especially when you press close to corners since switch is far away in the middle. Is placing second tact switch so effing expensive? You can easily check that by pressing not with a finger but some object instead, for example pen.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2019, 07:04:11 am
content: Quote from: wraper on November 14, 2019, 04:46:56 amThe cheap tactile switch is a completely unacceptable solution to start with. It's far too loud, just try using one in a quiet office or library environment. CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK I don't know how any sane person could have ever tried it and decided it was acceptable.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2019, 05:19:50 am
content: Hello friends.I have installed Linux Manjaro onto a USB flash drive the 32 GB ADATA bencharked earlier. It is now running on the Lenovo 14w. It is not a so called "live USB" install, rather it is an actual full install using the USB as the target, so I can install stuff and save files just like any other Linux and they persist across reboots. Both LXDE and LXQt desktops installed, and now am using LXQt. I like it. The Windows 10 Educational installation that came with the 14w on the internal eMMC remains intact. The UEFI boot loader on the flash drive is what chooses between Linux and Windows, so not one byte on the Windows install has been touched. I installed Manjaro by hand from the command line but did follow a guide since I am new to Manjaro. The greeter screen lets me chose whether I want to log into LXDE or LXQt. I am giving LXQt a try. It connects to Wifi without drama and I have a Targus Bluetooth mouse connected too.Here it is:[lxqt@manjaro ~]$ uname -aLinux manjaro 5.3.11-1-MANJARO #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Nov 13 12:21:14 UTC 2019 x86_64 GNU/LinuxManjaro with LXQt is much faster than Windows. It is like night and day.I then managed to install Arduino IDE which was easy, and sigrok PulseView which was not so easy. The package from the Arch repository was corrupted and pacman would not install it, so I downloaded the PulseView AppImage nightly build and installed FUSE, and run the image directly. Here it isGot the $6 Saelae Clone logic analyzer and used the fx2lafw open source driver so no infringement. PulseView immediately recognizes it as a Saelae Logic. I did some samples without the wires attached so they are just long boring straight lines to see that caputre works. It does, all logic low signals. I have a DSLogic Basic on the way that is also supported by PulseView.Ask me anything.

author: Old Printer
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timestamp: November 16, 2019, 09:56:17 pm
content: I believe the same machine, or very similar (check version of Win OS) is listed on the Best Buy BF sales flyer for the same $129. As of yet I cannot find a quantity, but I would think there will be a limit. Possible another source besides Lenovo.https://www.bestbuy.com/site/black-friday/computer-tablet-ad/pcmcat1568908370658.c?id=pcmcat1568908370658

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2019, 02:09:42 pm
content: The one at Best Buy uses A6-9220e. The 14w is about 24% faster.https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-A6-9220C-vs-AMD-A6-9220e/3455vs3198

author: Old Printer
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timestamp: November 17, 2019, 05:31:59 pm
content: Wnorcott, thanks for catching that, I think the version of windows is different as well. I don’t have much experience with Black Friday type shopping, does anyone have any tips to improve the odds of actually getting one of these?

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2019, 03:19:32 pm
content: Quote from: Old Printer on November 17, 2019, 05:31:59 pmOld Printer, kindly PM me if you would like to raise your chances to near 100%.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2019, 04:18:22 pm
content: Here is the SanDisk Extreme Pro 128 GB USB 3.1 flash drive running on the Lenovo 14w on its USB 3.0 port. It is advertised as read speed up to 420 MB/sec and write speeds up to 380 MB/sec. It currently sells for $42 on Amazon.The SanDisk Extreme Pro 128 GB on the Lenovo 14w USB 3.0 port achieves well over twice the speed of the 14w internal 64 GB eMMC, for both reads and writes.SanDisk Extreme Pro 128 GB USB 3.0This appears to be quite fast on the 14w, I would consider it well into SSD speed territory, and also about as fast as the Lenovo 14w CPU and motherboard chipset can manage.For the sake of comparison when I run the same SanDisk thumb drive on my desktop a quad core Intel i5-6600K with 16 GiB RAM, a fast motherboard and a USB 3.1 port, the SanDisk tops out at 427 MB/sec reads and 393 MG/sec writes, i.e. right at the manufacturer's rated spec for this USB storage device. Nice to see the SanDisk device meet and slightly exceed the spec in the real world, but I digress. The Intel i5-6600K CPU has four times the PassMarK CPU speed of the AMD A6-9220C. The Intel is also a 91 watt part, whereas the AMD is a 6 watt part.The 14w's speed limit on the SanDisk apparently is determined by the Lenovo 14w not the SanDsik and therefore this is about the fastest storage device one could use on this Lenovo laptop, I think. Still this is a very good option as a system disk replacing or augmenting the internal eMMC.

author: wnorcott
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2019, 06:26:46 am
content: The Lenovo 14w is on sale again for $129 right now with coupon code THINKCYBER1https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/student-laptops/Lenovo-14w/p/81MQ000JUS

author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2019, 10:52:45 am
content: This sucks!Only available for US. Here in Portugal the "offers" are

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2019, 02:13:54 pm
content: I picked one up last night in the wee hoursAs of 9 am est there were still 2 available if anyone is interested.

author: kd3pc
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 02, 2019, 02:43:48 pm
content: got two early this morning. Confirmations on one, will see about the second one.A big thanks to Wnorcott for the details and expert evaluation. So many choices and lots to learn. Looks like the first will be a MicroSD card and then Linux.

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2019, 03:42:27 pm
content: Does anyone know if the USB C port, which Lenovo lists as "charging" can also be used to transfer data? In Mac's with a single C port, and the proper hub, they can be used for charging and data simultaneously. Mine shipped and is due here Friday. Thanks

author: Old Printer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 08, 2019, 05:56:20 pm
content: Mine arrived Friday as advertised. Setup was guided and minimal, Win 10 Pro Ed. Had about 40 Gig left after setup. I installed Digilent Waveforms for my Analog Discovery 2 and the full Arduino IDE. All run at good speed. So far i am very happy, for $129 I have a nice portable lab for traveling. Will try Ubuntu soon, not sure which district yet. Thanks again to wnorcott for pointing this deal out👍.