TorchSMT anyone knows or used their products? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Marmes
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2018, 04:57:48 pm
content: Hello!I was lost in youtube and I stumbled into thisFound a site also:http://www.torchsmt.com/12-6-Heads-High-Speed-Visual-Placement-Machine-M6-M6D-id45918.htmlThese seem to be part of a Termway company or vice versa.Has anyone used or have experience with these machines? How is the software?

author: jmelson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2018, 08:08:37 pm
content: Well, here's what I see:No conveyor, the block that mounts the board seems to be pretty small in the X direction. I only saw it mount parts that fit in 8 mm tapes, presumably it can handle larger parts. How easy is it to change over to different-sized boards? I guess I see a top camera for fiducial recognition. Since the board sits between the feeders, it seems to limit the number of feeders that can be placed. Since ONLY the board moves in Y direction, you can't have rear feeders.So, a lot of limitations. Should, however be ROCK SOLID with no stacked axes.Jon

author: Reckless
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2018, 05:35:41 pm
content: No conveyor is a serious drawback!I went to their website and don't believe their 12k cph figure. My gut says ~4-6K cph which is pretty slow. I still have a hard time trusting chinese designed pick and place software.Torch makes the best desktop reflow oven that I know of.

author: SMTech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 11:27:42 am
content: No conveyor is only a drawback is you are trying to put through volume of PCBs that have been designed that way. I run our SMT standalone, its quite a common config for smaller installations that normally lets you maximize feeder count (clearly doesn't on this one), lets you use the entire placement area for whatever you please (parts, multiple boards at once) & handle boards that are badly designed for manufacture because they lack tooling strip/clearance/fiducials.The design of this machine means it can probably invent some pretty high "theoretical" placement speeds because the optimal rout from feeder to PCB is really really short. Machines like Torch&SMTMAX were visible on the market before the Neodens etc arrived on the scene but I don't think I ever encountered a western account of using one.Horrific accounts of the Maddell & MDC machines on the other hand were far from uncommon. (Not entirely sure the Maddell & SMTMax mchines are unrelated)

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2018, 11:38:56 pm
content: Looks like it's designed for low -BOM-count designs like LED products as it doesn't look like it can take many feeders - optimising for short travel distance.As it moves the PCB in one of the axes, I wonder if this can also be used for board loading in place of a conventional conveyor

author: Reckless
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2018, 07:05:30 am
content: I read online that using tweezers is better than using their pick n place machine.I'm considering ordering their desktop wave solder machine:http://www.torchsmt.com/Desk-wave-soldering-machine-TB680-pd31462.htmlhttps://youtu.be/rLxFE_UPmyQI like the small size just not sure if it will work long term and not have the chinese curse (works for 1 week then breaks)