Are they kidding...? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 10:49:42 pm
content: 1950's scope, not working.. bargain at £137....!http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-1950-s-COSSOR-1035-OSCILLOGRAPH-OSCILLOSCOPE-EX-MOD/390791859746?_trksid=p2046732.m2060&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D5419300521349467146%26pid%3D100040%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271422900251%26

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:02:49 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on March 11, 2014, 10:49:42 pmThat thing looks like they used it to track U-Boats.

author: notsob
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:05:22 pm
content: I like the size off the anchor rope attachment point on the front.

author: Phaedrus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:06:52 pm
content: Maybe someone collects them. I can't see it being very useful as an instrument, though.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:09:16 pm
content: I think the seller needs something called a BRAIN.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:16:36 pm
content: It's a sad fact that, with enough overpriced stuff listed on ebay, sellers start to actually sell it slowly

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:19:29 pm
content: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Agilent-6114A-Voltage-Source-/131030090855?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e82008467Get this. Calibration is available at an ADDITIONAL charge.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:25:02 pm
content: Ah, but it's vintage! That makes its value at least 10x because electronics collectors will want one.

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:30:41 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on March 11, 2014, 11:25:02 pmThis is the thought. If its old and in reasonable looking condition, it must be worth something!I have an original Gateway 2000 sitting around if someone wants to buy that? haha Might even throw in the original mouse pad it came with.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:34:14 pm
content: Quote from: Psi on March 11, 2014, 11:16:36 pmDo they? I've seen stuff that has no chance in hell of ever selling being relisted over & over. Some sellers just seem clueless about the value of things.

author: ErikTheNorwegian
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:40:11 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on March 11, 2014, 10:49:42 pmMust have been a horror movie prop, Frankenstein film maybe?

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 11:40:31 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on March 11, 2014, 11:34:14 pmYep, and some buyers are the same, which is what these people are targeting.Recently i put my small empty argon cylinder on the local auction site with a fair starting price.It sold for more than a brand new one filled with gas.I've seen sellers with 100's of overpriced things listed, they obvious make money doing it.They usually script the auctions and maintain a DB which the script reads and starts/renews auctions automatically.It requires very little involvement from them.

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 12:58:16 pm
content: Personally, I find the shipping even more amusing.

author: uwezi
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 01:38:11 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on March 11, 2014, 10:49:42 pmThe seller already got down with £40 fromhis earlier auction!And here is one in much better condition:http://www.thevalvepage.com/testeq/cossor/1035/1035.htmSeems that it was quite common in the UK, I have never heard of this brand before, but hey, compared to these scopes I am a newbie.

author: mos6502
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 01:45:27 pm
content: I would ask the seller how many GSPS it has.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 02:41:01 pm
content: I still think £600 for an empty case with a CRT and "LeCroy" on the front takes the biscuithttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181242144950?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649I think it's been relisted since.

author: electronics man
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 02:47:42 pm
content: £23 is very cheep for such a massive item on a palet some new smaller tech such as oscilloscopes can cost £30 to send.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 02:55:42 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on March 12, 2014, 02:41:01 pmBut./.. but you get FREE express delivery.

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 03:21:25 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on March 12, 2014, 02:41:01 pmI've seen that, yeah, 100% agreed, it's crazy.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 03:52:43 pm
content: QuoteWhoop-de-doopI'd want an oscilloscope inside for that.Scratch that - I'd want both, with oscilloscopes inside and I'd still think £600 was a bit on the high side - my pair of 9354's together cost me less than half what is being asked for one of these.There was another vendor wanting £1250 for a Philips PM3394, which is not abad'scope but given that you can get a new 4-channel 200MHz 'scope for less than £900 (the Siglent SDS1204CFL**) an old 200Ms/s combiscope is not worth that much.At least the seller in that case has had the sense to reduce his asking price (I offered him £375 which was turned down, we'll see how close he gets before someone buys it).**The Siglent has rubbish memory depth, only 24kpts so I wouldn'tactuallybuy it - however the Phillips only has 32kpts so it's a fair comparison.

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 04:20:09 pm
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on March 12, 2014, 12:58:16 pmme too !

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 04:37:06 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on March 11, 2014, 10:49:42 pmmaybe not to us but interior designers might be interested for certain retro uses once cleaned up, could also be used in sets as props in tv and film?

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 04:45:37 pm
content: now this on the other handhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330846602989dont understand why you would want to buy that for £750 when a gopro can do better for £350

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 05:16:03 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on March 12, 2014, 03:52:43 pmFor 1250GBP, you could get a decked out Rigol DS1104Z-s, or save up for an Agilent.ß

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 05:46:19 pm
content: QuoteYes, although to keep the comparison fair we ought to pick a 200MHz 4-channel 'scope and for a Rigol that pushes you to the DS4024 which is twice as much.I'm not sure how much you'd end up using the digital side of a PM3394. I use my PM3382 all the time but in analogue mode. On the digital side single shot is limited to signals around 20MHz but more importantly there aren't any particularly flexible triggering options, nor pre-trigger capture which means when I do want a DSO I use the LeCroy. The only time I switch mine to digital is for lower frequency stuff where roll mode is much better than trying to squint at a slow moving dot.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 06:25:46 pm
content: I came across something similar to the scope the other a Simpson digital meter pre 1984 as there was a sticker with that date giving expiration for calibration being sold as a collectors item the same seller had an old AVO oscillator which sold for £23 plus delivery, seems old means high price for collectors but I think they need to wait another century before that scope is worth that much.

author: denelec
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 10:28:05 pm
content: He's probably not in a hurry to sell.He's probably just testing the market.If he can find a buyer at that price, good for him.If not, he will lower the price.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 10:38:04 pm
content: This just harms the whole resale market. Others check the prices, see these high prices and assume they sell for that much. So, the items remain perpetually out of reach of people who can't buy items that highly priced.

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 01:47:20 am
content: Quote from: dexters_lab on March 12, 2014, 04:37:06 pmI have a TEK 533A that I would be willing to rent out as a prop for a $500 a day.Not sure if it works, it's a display piece in my office but it has lots more knobs and switches which increases the cool factor. It also has 62 valves for more cool factor. It was free to me but I am not above some capitalism in the renting thing.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 02:13:08 am
content: EBay's "sales" are equally shithttp://www.ebay.com/rpp/business-industrial/top-e-te-brands/tektronix-oscilloscopes/

author: Phaedrus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 03:31:07 am
content: I thought some of those deals looked pretty solid, until I clicked and realized they were all used.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 04:10:06 am
content: Quote from: Phaedrus on March 13, 2014, 03:31:07 amThat's the damn catch. And the "deal" on the 2465?

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 08:08:02 am
content: QuoteEbay is shit full stop. It is less shit as a buyer than it used to be - lets face it, ebayusedto be the online equivalent of a car boot sale, but it is still shit.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 08:10:27 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on March 11, 2014, 11:34:14 pmYep, most of them do, you eventually find a sucker...

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 04:40:15 pm
content: It's basically waiting for someone stupid enough to click buy-it-now.

author: krivx
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 04:50:52 pm
content: The seller seems to be liquidating a wide variety of ex-Navy stuff, I would guess that they are not familiar with test equipment and priced it based on what "oscilloscope" sells for on eBay.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 08:43:26 pm
content: Quote from: krivx on March 13, 2014, 04:50:52 pmHuh. I see an Agilent 900000X oscillometer for $50000. I think by listing mine at $150, it's a true bargain. After all, there are no differences between oscillometers, multi-generaters, and function-scopes. Engineers are smart people.

author: Phaedrus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 08:53:30 pm
content: Quote from: echen1024 on March 13, 2014, 04:10:06 amWhat would you say one is worth? There's one in decent shape listed for $400 Buy-it-Now with new probes. No info on when it was last calibrated though. I made an offer of $295 and it was declined automatically. What would you pay?

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2014, 10:53:13 pm
content: Quote from: Phaedrus on March 13, 2014, 08:53:30 pm$600 MAX calibrated B version.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 26, 2014, 07:35:23 am
content: If something is listed with an over inflated "buy it now" price, you can always "make an offer" and try your luck. There has been a good condition and functional Tek 7904A with 7B70, 7B85, 7A24 and 7A19 plug-ins listed on ebay .au for ages already, with a BIN price of $750 plus shipping. I offered $300 and ended up getting it for $475 plus $75 postage. Not bargain basement, but still reasonable, IMO. Should be a nice instrument once I have gone through it. Now I just have to find a local 7104........