[eBay] new DER EE DE-5000 w/ tweezers, etc, for cheap - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2018, 12:06:46 am
content: No affiliation with the seller, just happened to see it. $46 delivered is a heckuva price, they'll be gone before you know it.https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-TL-23-/123260330912

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2018, 12:08:12 am
content: Scam listings. I've seen several like it pop up from time to time, usually in batches. The real ones come from sellers in Japan rather than China, Malaysia, Thailand, etc. Of course, eBay will refund you if it's bogus.

author: RobertPS
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2018, 12:23:34 am
content: Scammer or hacked account. Look at the seller history and the items that are listed now.

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2018, 12:27:40 pm
content: Could be. Or they were overordered/overproduced, there is a glut of them, and they are being cleared out. Happened a few months ago with unmarked AN8008's. The Chinese seem more inclined to use eBay for this sort of thing than other venues.This seller has it for $65, still a very good deal.https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-TL-23-NEW-/283063892449

author: Carrington
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2018, 02:12:49 pm
content: Beware, they are hacked accounts, just make a call to ebay and ask how many times these accounts has been hacked.For this one:https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-TL-23-/123260330912I made that call to ebay, and now in Spain this account is closed:https://ibb.co/k6yHKJAnd for this other:https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-TL-23-NEW-/283063892449Please check this other and compare ad pictures:https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-TL-23-NEW/172361199595?hash=item2821872feb:g:wi4AAOSwPCVYAbSbCheers.

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 12:08:54 am
content: I contacted eBay. The rep looked into the seller's account and history, and they see nothing on their side to raise suspicions. The seller is in good standing with eBay and Paypal.It is not unusual for sellers to copy photos and descriptions from other ads. It happens all the time. There are no eBay rules against it.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 12:12:18 am
content: Quote from: precaud on July 23, 2018, 12:08:54 amDid they look into logins and IP address history?

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 12:23:48 am
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 23, 2018, 12:12:18 amI have no way of knowing that. She assured me, if something did prove to be amiss, I would be reimbursed in full.She did say one thing I found interesting. She didn't find this seller's listing behavior suspicious. She said they have numerous sellers in China who don't specialize in anything, they appear to buy large lots of various items and then sell them. Moreso than in the US.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 01:47:26 am
content: With the volume of scams on eBay, I don't have much confidence in their interpretations. However, as a buyer, your risk is low since eBay will refund you if you don't get what the listing claims.I'm skeptical because (1) I've tested out some of these kinds of listings and not long after I've paid, I get an email from eBay that they've removed the listing or I have to wait a month for the item not to show up before eBay finally generates a refund, and (2) this account, like others I've seen from time to time, have almost all of their products at around half the price of what other sellers in the same country are selling them despite the products being current models from Fluke, Micsig, Uni-T, etc. (i.e., it's highly unlikely that they're all clearing their distribution channels at the same time to this small number of resellers).On occasion, there will be a new seller who, in order to get some momentum in their feedback, will sell at cost or even a loss for a short period. I remember a post where someone did score an item from such a seller. My "test" purchases have all ended up bogus, but that's just my experience.So, if you have the time to spend on such listings, it's unlikely you'll lose money. But most of these, even if eBay can't tell yet, end up being a ruse.If you do end up making a purchase, do let us know the result. Every one is a learning experience and spotting scams gets better with experience.

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 06:18:30 am
content: Quote from: precaud on July 23, 2018, 12:08:54 amI had a similar experience with Ebay. I contacted them for what I am "sure" is a fake listing for an expensive IR-camera. Indicators for fake according to me:- pictures copied from a recent other auction, including a custom made connection box (unlikely this seller has the exact same one) and a picture only showing the serial number of the camera- started from 1€, only listed for 3-days, no reserve- no PayPal excepted, only money transfer- sellers had no selling history for items like this at allYet, Ebay left the item on, and it went for almost 800€. I really hope I am wrong or the buyer is indeed protected in this case, but with the direct money transfer and the high amount, I would be not so sure...

author: Carrington
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 06:30:45 am
content: Quote from: precaud on July 23, 2018, 12:08:54 amTo what seller are you referring? Because the "dannuer" account now offer 0 item (see pictures in attachments).He sold it all!But let see what happen with the other seller...Quote from: precaud on July 23, 2018, 12:08:54 amOk, why not, but scammers do the same.

author: Carrington
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 06:35:26 am
content: Quote from: bitseeker on July 23, 2018, 01:47:26 amI think exactly the same.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 06:38:30 am
content: The Japanese sellers generally seem to have their own pictures, or sometimes stock photos.

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 06:47:24 am
content: I would say "scam",,, but I have been wrong before on these things. I wouldn't take a chance on this 1, it looks too dodgy!

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 07:08:16 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on July 23, 2018, 07:02:18 amA braver man than I am! I hope it works out and you are rewarded for your bravery! LOL

author: Carrington
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 11:21:04 am
content: Right now I received a call from +49332038510 (ebay), to clarify me that this seller "psypwen" seem ok, nothing weird has been detected or reported, for now.They also have clarified to me that sometimes they need a time to investigate in detail and take actions.So, yeah, a real bargain...Edit: I forgot, the ebay user dannuer was a different history, a total scam...

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 02:25:31 pm
content: Quote from: _Wim_ on July 23, 2018, 06:18:30 amI'm fairly certain that the eBay guarantee only applies if you paid via Paypal so those people would have lost it all.

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 02:37:56 pm
content: Awe man!

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 02:54:35 pm
content: Quote from: tsman on July 23, 2018, 02:25:31 pmI believe that was true when eBay and PP were the same company... but not since they separated. eBay's "buyer protection" is not Paypal-dependent. It does have time limits, though. The claim has to be filed within 30 days of receipt, or of the last estimated delivery date, in the case of items not received.

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 03:50:38 pm
content: Quote from: precaud on July 23, 2018, 02:54:35 pmIt still say Paypal only on eBay UK.QuoteQuote

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 04:09:21 pm
content: In the USA:https://pages.ebay.com/ebay-money-back-guarantee/questions.html#mbgPaypal is not required.

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 04:18:08 pm
content: Quote from: precaud on July 23, 2018, 04:09:21 pmHuh. Strange it is different!

author: sn4k3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 08:34:25 pm
content: I also took one, it worth the try, if fake i will get a refund and to have proof i will record the unpack.Even if genuine and you don't want the item you can always get refunds, ebay over protect buyers (From my seller experience) and tend to burn sellers.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2018, 11:12:46 pm
content: Quote from: Carrington on July 23, 2018, 06:30:45 amYeah, the dannuer one. I started seeing bad feedback last night (shipped lego parts instead of the real product). I guess eBayfinallyfigured it out.The other seller, psypwen, has a slightly higher price, but still unusually low (likewise with other items from that seller).

author: exe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 24, 2018, 08:19:01 am
content: Quote from: precaud on July 23, 2018, 04:09:21 pmThey say "eBay Money Back Guarantee covers other electronic payment methods as well, when they are used in eBay Checkout, including ProPay, Skrill, Bill Me Later, credit card, and debit card.". But how does it work? I think they can only protect if payment is made via ebay website. In case of direct transfer to the seller's bank account they can't do anything (I believe).

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2018, 08:37:08 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on July 24, 2018, 08:24:37 amWell spotted!Too funny!

author: PTR_1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2018, 09:23:31 am
content: Ooohhhh. Mine just got marked as shipped.I’ve got a U1733C Agilent handheld, so don’t need a Der ee one, but if it does actually turn up then I have a cheap for work.I’m very skeptical about this seller, but I’ve had wins similar to this in the past too.

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2018, 06:45:32 pm
content: Quote from: bitseeker on July 23, 2018, 11:12:46 pmYes, and a couple more negatives today. That's it for me. I called eBay and asked them cancel the order. Since he hasn't shipped, they said he has to accept the cancellation.They did confirm that the account is under investigation. But they also said that the item I bought is still an active listing.Huh? It seems eBay is trying to play it both ways.

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2018, 08:00:17 pm
content: Is it just me or is the seller actually offeringonly the TL-21 "pod"and not the LCR meter? (despite the last photo).That would be a pretty normal price for that.

author: BillB
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 24, 2018, 08:05:10 pm
content: "This seller is currently away, and is not processing orders at this time. You can add this item to your watch list to purchase later. "Hmmm...

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2018, 08:18:34 pm
content: Quote from: janoc on July 24, 2018, 08:00:17 pmThat is a different auction by somebody else. eBay thinks it is a similar item and trying to be helpful. Click the link at the top and you'll see theoriginal auctionwhich is the full DE-5000 kit.

author: aargee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 24, 2018, 09:42:56 pm
content: Yes, that ebay thing of pointing you at different auctions is crap, they don’t exactly make it easy to see the original item.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2018, 07:17:17 am
content: Yeah, not only is that redirect annoying, it even breaks (more like misleads you about) some of eBay's existing functionality. For example, when an item is relisted, the ended listing in the watchlist has a link to view the relisted item. If you click it, it gets...you guessed it...redirected to some other item. Way to go, eBay!

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2018, 01:07:31 pm
content: The seller ignored the cancellation request. 9 hours later he posted a tracking number.I sent him a message, telling him I want to cancel and a refund, why didn't he do it? No response from him (of course).More neg feedbacks have been posted for dannuer.Now we get to see what eBay is made of. They told me the seller must comply with a cancellation request made prior to shipping. They appear to be in CYA mode.

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2018, 02:05:55 pm
content: Quote from: tsman on July 24, 2018, 08:18:34 pmAh duh, missed that thin bar at the top. That's really annoying eBay "feature".

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2018, 09:48:05 pm
content: Yeah, it's a stupid "feature." However, if it misleads enough people to increase sales, then it's more than likely to stay. Being a monopoly trumps the normal balance that poor usability might've imparted on the situation.

author: sn4k3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2018, 02:53:12 pm
content: Seller message:QuoteAnother scam message?

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2018, 02:59:57 pm
content: I just got the same message

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2018, 03:02:10 pm
content: Quote from: sn4k3 on July 28, 2018, 02:53:12 pmScammer trying delay tactics. They've hidden their feedback now which is suspicious but one of the earlier comments was that they had resolved the "mistake" by firing the staff member responsible. That was several days ago so they're just using the same excuse again.

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2018, 03:53:10 pm
content: Another side of this is, there's nothing to stop the "seller" from posting the same tracking number for multiple transactions "shipped". It is unlikely eBay checks for this.Is it worthwhile to compare our tracking numbers? If they're the same, then we have some real ammo to present to eBay, and demand in immediate refund.

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2018, 03:58:01 pm
content: Quote from: precaud on July 28, 2018, 03:53:10 pmI'd be very surprised if eBay doesn't validate tracking numbers.

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2018, 04:24:16 pm
content: What does "validate" mean?If it tracks through the shipper's system (in this case, China Post), then its "validated". But that does not include checking the destination address.

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2018, 05:31:03 pm
content: Quote from: precaud on July 28, 2018, 04:24:16 pmChecking that the tracking number is unique in their system is incredibly easy. eBay knows about some shipping companies and will offer to link you directly to the relevant tracking page so they're doing something there.If there were no checks at all and the scammers could just give out the same invalid tracking number for every auction then they wouldn't even bother shipping worthless junk to people.

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2018, 07:07:58 pm
content: Quote from: tsman on July 28, 2018, 05:31:03 pmEasy? Yes. Do they do it? I bet not.Another USA buyer sent me his tracking number privately, and it is different than mine. So dannuer appears not to be playing that game.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2018, 08:01:02 pm
content: Something often arrives. The SWMBO ordered cheap Ecco shoes off a Facebook advert a month ago. The bank contacted her a few minutes later to ask if she was in China! They decided to let the transaction through and told her to contact them if it did not arrive. Just as others reported on Facebook cheap sunglasses arrived, recorded delivery, last week. I'll have to start nagging her to get on to bank. Needless to say it will not be a simple as a disputed PayPal transaction.And before the feminists complain, I once ordered a projector screen from China, got a tracking number for the order. But received an envelope containing glass beads. Did not take long for PayPal to refund, others who ordered got the same.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2018, 02:46:59 am
content: Yeah, we actually do have a 50-cent coin. It's large and rarely used in everyday life. I haven't come across one in many, many years. Using one might get a reaction similar to using a $2 bill ("Is this fake?").

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2018, 02:51:24 am
content: He sent you a counterfeit coin instead of the lcr meter? Oh boy, something to look forward to...

author: Terry01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2018, 08:19:48 am
content: Awe well...at least you gave it a shot! You win some and you lose some....

author: hifiguy99
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2018, 02:02:06 am
content: I was one of those suckers who bought the DER DE-5000 and got lego pieces in the mail insteadand I didn't even see this thread, lol.It's okay, the seller refunded.Anyways, if anyone is looking for this meter to get on sale, I would use the site-wide eBay coupon: PRONTO15on this listing:https://www.ebay.com/itm/282040803373to get the meter for sub $90, not tee shabbyNote that it ends today, but if you don't get it today, it will probably pop up next month, regarding the promo code that is

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2018, 07:36:49 pm
content: I received mine today; a 3x3 padded envelope with nothing in it. Customs declarations was for a "toy" with $5 value. A call to eBay and they refunded immediately.I asked the CS rep how many buyers did the guy defraud. I guessed 18. She said no, only 17.Only.Just the cost of doing bidness for eBay, I suppose.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2018, 09:00:09 pm
content: Yep. Seems to pay off for the scammers. sigh

author: exe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 15, 2018, 09:12:27 pm
content: Quote from: bitseeker on August 15, 2018, 09:00:09 pmDon't paypal hold money for a while after the purchase to protect buyers?

author: metrologist
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2018, 09:19:17 pm
content: How do you "call" ebay? They actually answer a phone?

author: sn4k3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2018, 10:11:36 pm
content: Quote from: exe on August 15, 2018, 09:12:27 pmNo, thats just if seller is new on paypal.After some success transactions paypal release money instantly after a sell, still you able to open a dispute under the time

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2018, 10:17:44 pm
content: Quote from: metrologist on August 15, 2018, 09:19:17 pmYep.https://www.ebay.com/help/call_usYou can also opt to have them call you, rather than stay on hold.

author: rhb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2018, 12:11:47 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on August 07, 2018, 11:16:35 pmI got mine last week, but overlooked it until yesterday. It's pretty funny, gold colored, with "LIBFRTY" on one side and "epluribusonum" on the other. Legally I think we're supposed to turn them in to the authorities. But I plan to keep mine as a novelty if the seller doesn't want me to ship it back. In that case I'll turn it in to the cops and get a receipt. In your case, I'd wipe it off carefully, wrap it in toilet tissue and throw it in the trash away from your home or work. I *think* if you mark it "counterfeit" it is legal to have it. But the risk is not a lawsuit, but a criminal proceeding. You definitely don't want that.I tried to find someone selling them on Alibaba.com, but did not find an exact match. If you have small hands they are a good size for coin tricks. I did see a set of 4 "silver" and two "gold" coins but with different dates and better workmanship. But still obviously fake if you're familiar with the real thing. But for someone in China a safe "silver into gold" trick coin set very appropriately sized for an adolescent magician.I tried learning coin tricks when I was 13 or 14, but it's really hard work. You really have to put a lot of time into it. I preferred escapes which I got really good at. At 15 I could do the "Siberian Transport Chain" trick so fast that with 3-4 people surrounding me they couldn't figure it out. After they had locked me up, I'd spin on one heel and drop the chain on the floor. I repeated it several times before they finally gave up trying to figure it out. I also did the "100 ft of rope" escape. Though you can't have people watching while you do that one.

author: metrologist
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2018, 02:39:26 pm
content: I wanna see it... both sides.

author: rhb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2018, 04:35:39 pm
content: The "milling" does not extend across the entire edge. I tried posting it next to a real coin, but the file was too large and Dave would not let me do it.

author: metrologist
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2018, 04:44:48 pm
content: Lol, that's better than I was expecting. I bet you could spend it!

author: rhb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2018, 08:23:32 pm
content: Not even if I offered it to a blind person. I think it's part of a child's magic set. I think it's being done as a way to borrow money for short terms at low cost.If the seller falsely sold 100 units, after expenses he'd have about $4000 which he could use to start a legitimate operation under a different name. I'm sure they do something similar on Wall Street all the time.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 17, 2018, 02:53:31 am
content: Quote from: rhb on August 16, 2018, 08:23:32 pmWow, that's a pretty poor counterfeit job. It's been a long time since I've seen a 50-cent piece in circulation, but I could instantly tell that Kennedy's profile was wrong. Then you see the funky eagle leg, the incorrectly rotated lettering, etc.I've seen similarly poor manufacturing in some Kickstarter projects where the project owners have to reject the prototypes multiple times before they're done mostly correctly.

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2018, 12:27:05 pm
content: Once again we have DE-5000 for 12$ usdhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking/263985903340Bought Two of them to see where it goes lolll seems all fishy when you see all his items for sale at very low pricesand the left quantity nerver go down (perpetual qty loll), there was a few bought items after my purchase lollNextion display 12$ usually in the 80$ usd, mach 3 cnc interface, tft view meter ...Well Ebay is there for your protection pffffffff loll

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2018, 02:26:09 pm
content: Yes ebay does have phone support they are located over seas and some of the people will just fight with you like its their money. IF this happens don't argue for more then a minute just hang up and call right back to get another person. I bought a 12.00$ beofung from a seller with a lot of positive feedback back but I was pretty sure it was a scam but bet on getting my money back if it was. 30 days which is how long the last one took (that one was 39.00 free shipping, so if it was a return maybe 12.00 was doable) to get and no radio I sent one email didn't hear back so immediately called ebay to get my money back.First rep says you only have 30 days to dispute and its been 40. So I tell her had she ever used ebay before she clearly had not, that's how long it takes from china. She keeps fighting for 15 minutes, saying it's paypals fault then when I told her paypal is ebay she said call my bank they will give you the money back. I told her that's not how it works in America and the bank isn't an insurance policy for Chinese scammers when the money went from my bank accont into a paypal/ebay a US held company. I was getting ridiculous. I just said "Look up this account in the last week all their feedback turned from positive into negatives and every person says its a scam for the same radio, Ebay needs to catch this, ITS 12 FUCKING DOLLARS EBAY HAS BILLIONS JUST REFUND IT!!!!" So she wouldn't refund, I got the manager and got my money back after about a minute. So lesson is if they give you a hard time just get another person.Remember ebay makes money off the scam too and they lose a lot if that person cashed out their paypal. I'm sure reps are told or given rewards for lowest number of refunds given how hard that first lady fought me. I'm sure through no fault of her own that $12 is probably a whole days pay, but not to ebay it's not.I wonder if that fake coin says LIBFRTY on purpose so it's not seen as counterfeit but then again its so close to real money the secret service would want a look at it. If you get caught in the US with counterfeit money you have to give it to the police lose the value of it, and the secret service wants to know your info and you have to tell them where you got it from or all the places you shopped since you got it. When you see fake notes on the walls at the store behind the register technically that's illegal and they are supposed to turn it in.But I have also seen Chinese things that could have got away with making their product look real if they just spent five minutes on google. Seems strange to put in all that effort but undermine it by not doing the last step. Like fake chips where they get the part number wrong or leave "Operator: J doe" on the packaging.Why did they send anything in the envelope at all? Send a fake coin and now you have counterfeit currency which is much worse then counterfeit goods, 50 cents doesn't exactly = $60.00, you could have made money selling the coins as magic trick coins or something. You also can't say "we made a mistake and sent the wrong item". I often wonder if its not laziness but sheer stupidity hence why they don't have a real business.

author: chekhov
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2018, 02:47:34 pm
content: Quote from: coromonadalix on October 14, 2018, 12:27:05 pmFrom item's description:Quote

author: precaud
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2018, 02:56:17 pm
content: Quote from: chekhov on October 14, 2018, 02:47:34 pmYeah I saw that too. No mention of fraudulent ones that don't exist...

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2018, 03:22:29 pm
content: I'll go up to 30 days to see what it will give me ... 8 items bought after me ... was and still 5 items left ...sure : 100% GENUINE PRODUCTS, Beware of counterfeit items sold on eBayBut you may end with nothing loll 100% still genuine loll

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2018, 04:15:40 pm
content: well received this :We had to remove this listing from the site and you're not required to complete the transaction. If you've already sent payment, the sale should process as normal and you don't have anything to worry about. If you have any questions about delivery, please check tracking or contact your seller. If you run into any trouble along the way eBay is here to help. Please visit the Resolution Center to help resolve any problems you may encounter.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2018, 06:50:07 pm
content: Quote from: coromonadalix on October 14, 2018, 04:15:40 pmInteresting, your link still works only now the price is USD 104

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2018, 07:41:08 pm
content: Ebay switched to another seller, the fun is : try to contact ebay to cancell your purchase an Ebay says you did not buy the thing .... when the sell items where removed its like they never existed in ebay, and youre stuck with nothing to call ebay or make an complain to an fraudulent sellAnd now i have to rely to the ''ebay purchase protection'', a real joke, have to wait and go thru the delays ...

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2018, 11:00:27 pm
content: Quote from: coromonadalix on October 14, 2018, 07:41:08 pmI guess that's the price of admission when you try your luck on one of these "too good to be true" deals.Chances are eBay is stuck with the bill after the scammer ran off with your money. One could argue that responding to deals like these is encouraging scammers, as they might make off with some of the money.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2018, 02:22:13 am
content: QuoteEbay buyer protection is fine and works well. But you have to follow the steps in the right order and let it happen in the right way. It's not something you can invoke on a whim because you're bored of waiting after deliberately abusing it.

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2018, 02:22:57 pm
content: Is the nearly zero chance of getting an item for a low cost on an obviously fraudulent auction worth all the downsides? You need to spend time getting your money back and even though you'll be refunded from eBay/Paypal, you're still helping the seller get their money for a fraudulent auction. You're also giving your details to a scammer so you may end up as a target ofbrushingor worse.

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2018, 08:17:16 pm
content: UpdateSomething has been shipped, is it my 2x ordered de-5000 loll

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2018, 04:06:20 am
content: Maybe counterfeit quarters (cost-cutting measure).

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2018, 08:20:52 pm
content: And the seller oirqwv-4 dissapeared lollEbay removed it.@tsman you're rightAnd the irritation is : you wont be able to give bad feedback to the seller user name, Surely get back under a new nameMy purchase became invisible in the purchase history ?? WTFBut i've take screenshots loll managed to request refund before he dissapeared, Ebay will ventually step in .... and once again we loose time and patience thru the Ebay systemAnd yeah i was too fast to buy it