List of demonetised EEVblog videos - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 26, 2017, 09:08:19 pm
content: I think I have to start keeping a list of these...

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2017, 09:11:32 pm
content: Do you know how that video triggered me? I'm an SJW with a cock who identifies as xer/zhem and am sucking a BBC dummy in my safe space right now, but I think the amount of TRIGGER's in that video was more than enough to melt my special snowflake.https://youtu.be/Kay4Jk2DHuE?t=1068How much triggering and actual physical violence to poor CH1. I've never seen so much hate since the days of my local council banning IDE Master/Slave drives back in the early 90's.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2017, 09:33:42 pm
content: I'd suggest to keep track also of the dates when they have been first spotted as demonetized.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2017, 09:42:41 pm
content: I wonder if all us YouTubers should list all our demonetized videos here, along with tags, to see if we can find a pattern?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 12:16:24 am
content: Dave, I hate to break it to you but you need to include a cute puppy dog or (even better) a cute cat in every video from now on. That is just the way Youtube works (or sucks) nowadays

author: Nusa
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 01:34:04 am
content: I notice most of those are fairly recent, and are presumably flagged by an automated process. I assume you've hit the "Request Review" button on all of those?

author: HwAoRrDk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 05:08:37 am
content: I note the flagging is split into two slightly different categories: "not suitable for all advertisers" and "not suitable for most advertisers". So does the latter not really count as true demonisation? Or is it effectively the same - zero earnings.The knee surgery ones being marked as "all" doesn't surprise, as they're titled with keywords implying medical procedures, so I guess YouTube doesn't want adverts on potentially gross stuff.The test render videos I would guess got flagged because they're all identical in content? Probably thinks they're spamming.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 08:01:01 am
content: Was it Mehdi Sadaghdar saying in his latest rant video that you can put the video unlisted for a day first?It makes sense, because then you don't lose the views in the early hours.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 08:12:59 am
content: I wish YT would actually identify WHY they flagged the video and stated it on a page in detail, so at least then we could fix the issues or prevent them from occurring in the first place!I didn't have any issues with my videos getting demonetised until about 3 weeks ago, but since the every single one has been hit ! I have been uploading them, fixing the demonetised status (asking for manual review usually, but sometimes changing tags fixes it), and once it is monetised I then make it public.I don't earn much money at all from my channel as it is nowhere near the size of Dave's, but I am sure the hit to the income is pretty hard in Dave's case, as also stated by Dave and others, the first day or two are the most important as that is where most of the money is earned from the video, in my case it costs a couple of $, but when you are talking tens of thousands of views being lost, that is likely to be in the hundreds of $ range.

author: Avacee
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 10:03:10 am
content: I wonder if some complaints are coming from familiar IP Addresses in Vietnam?Reference for those not familiar with Batteriser:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/eevblab/eevblab-13-batteriser-how-to-buy-youtube-dislikes!/

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 10:59:40 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on November 27, 2017, 08:12:59 amThey probably can't identify why the videos are flagged, because they don't know. They seem to be flagging in an automated way, based on algorithms weighing up various factors. They imply that their deep learning schemes are used for the flagging. Some videos are clearly flagged for very simplistic reasons, like a key word or phrase with a high weighting being used. Most are probably flagged for much more subtle reasons, which would be difficult to pin down and describe in an easy to digest manner.If they were to provide more information about how things are flagged, it would probably help people to game the system. That is what has happened with every other available piece of information about automated processes in search engines and filters. The present YouTube tagging system seems a testament to how little progress deep learning has really made, its results are that arbitrary. YouTube does, however, have a difficult problem to solve.

author: nixfu
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 03:44:31 pm
content: And meanwhile as YouTube spends so much effort looking for videos that don’t fit their favorite leftist politically correct agenda, they seem to spend zero effort working on the massive child sex explotation problem on their site that has been there for years.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5120865/YouTube-search-results-reveal-disturbing-child-sex-results.htmlIt’s clear the world needs a viable competitor/alternative to YouTube.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 03:56:51 pm
content: ...and in the meantime, Elsagate was left untouched for quite some time...The algorithms are completely broken...

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 04:26:06 pm
content: My guess is that YT uses an AI to check the videos. And since AIs develop some kind of personality and nobody really knows how AIs work, YT might have no clue how to fix the rogue AI. There are studies about AIs which became racist for example. The current AI hype worries me.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2017, 11:57:19 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on November 27, 2017, 10:42:30 pmUnless they dump a large part of the working set each time a decision to demonitize is made, how would they be able to trace back what lead to that decision? I think its highly unlikely they do take such a snapshot. They might record a few pertinent items of information, but an entire working set seems unlikely.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 02:01:09 am
content: If I were writing a filtering system, I would log the results that trigger it, in order to analyze how it is performing, I would be very surprised if yt are not logging the triggers.Think about it, a yt human verification would not be done one watching the entire video, they would look at what triggered and try to verify if it was valid.If you write code you could relate to this point of view, if not then it may be harder to relate to it.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 11:32:39 am
content: Another one!

author: CJay
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 11:41:06 am
content: Quote from: nixfu on November 27, 2017, 03:44:31 pmWhile I have no doubt there are corners of YouTube and the wider Internet that are in need of cleaning up, citing the Daily Heil as a reputable source does not help make a case, it is a newspaper that will happily post shock paedo scare stories about 15 year old girls being abused and on the very next page post semi nude pics of 16 year old girls on the opposite page, ethics ith a county in the south eathst of England as far as they are concerned.It's a hysterical right wing, racist rag that spent an awful lot of time trying to claim Hitler was a nice guy really and was just a bit misunderstood.

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 11:43:45 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 28, 2017, 11:32:39 amYou specifically mentioned pornographic.Is google translate getting better with the accent?

author: xani
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 11:44:48 am
content: Quote from: Macbeth on November 26, 2017, 09:11:32 pmYou laugh but Django project had an actual change (https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/22667) where poor idiots replaced common DB (as in "almost every SQL DB uses it or "master/replica") terminology with "safe" alternative

author: capt bullshot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 01:09:02 pm
content: Quote from: apelly on November 28, 2017, 11:43:45 amWhy should mentioning porn trigger it? At some point Dave mentions the demonetising issue (afair), and for sure YT doesn't want too much publicity about it ...“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.”

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 03:39:45 pm
content: I've seen in a few sources that, due to some recent issues with disturbing videos (and the kids thing I linked above), advertisers were pulling from YT. That is probably YT's response to them: overcompensate to recover credibility and then attract back the lost money.

author: glarsson
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 03:50:36 pm
content: How does removing ads from popular videos randomly regain respect from advertisers?

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 04:37:30 pm
content: The apparent impression they are doing a more diligent filter of inappropriate content with a few dead bodies along the way. Keep in mind that the absolute majority of content is still intact.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 05:07:55 pm
content: Quote from: glarsson on November 28, 2017, 03:50:36 pmNot much I would say, but advertisers pulling out are hurting their pockets.They have not touched fake versions of cartoons (search for Peppa Pig extreme) etc. Which are unsuitable for children, but come up as the 'next video' when they (binge) watch. They are are damaging their reputation with both the public and advertisers, but YT appears to be blind to them.

author: Muxr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 05:20:23 pm
content: Sorry if it's a dumb idea Dave, but would it be possible to re-upload the same video but bleep out the potential trigger words?Here is the youtube transcript of your latest video, you can actually get the whole transcript for each video under the video options on youtube (it's kind of scary good actually considering a machine transcribed it):Quote

author: ChrisLX200
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 05:21:51 pm
content: They are striving for theappearanceof acting responsibly, so someone can stand up at a meeting with a PowerPoint presentation that shows how many uploads they have 'censored' for unsuitable content. Look - statistics prove we are doing something effective. The fact that it's total waste of time is immaterial..

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 05:35:11 pm
content: Quote from: ChrisLX200 on November 28, 2017, 05:21:51 pmThey are simply trying to avoid freaking out their big advertisers, which almost happened last spring. That's when they started heavily stripping ads from anything which triggers rather very heavy handed setting for their filtering.

author: Muxr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 05:40:08 pm
content: Quote from: ChrisLX200 on November 28, 2017, 05:21:51 pmBlanket policies suck. I do think channels like Dave's should be exempt (it's an established channel with known quality content). But I can certainly see why they might be clamping down on racy content. Kids demographic is the most important one. This is why movies bend over backwards to get the PG13 rating. Also I don't understand why they have to demonetize the whole video. Like they can just offer it to advertisers who don't mind adult language. This all provided that the reason is Dave's occasional adult language (which I love).However you look at it, the lack of communication and seemingly random demonetization is poorly implemented.

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 06:01:09 pm
content: With all that oscilloscope porn, thats totally understandable ;-)Dave recently showed some negative ratings from viewers in certain countries that based on the views could have never watched the video. Is there a new try with flagging content as inappropriate?Channels like ADVChina have also some effect that people republish their videos on chinese platforms with different subtitles and changing the statements made in a drastic way.Should be in hereCode:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5jIB2UWK3UIt´s different in this case, as it is all on youtube, but once there is a group doing such things, who knows.It would work a lot better producing "acceptable content", should youtube have a more transparent approach to why they are doing what. Without that feedback that would require guessing on the side of the youtuber and no improvement can be expected, i almost can not believe that the youtube community is built in such a way that one is punished without being told why and can get the next strike without even knowing why. Maybe there is a collection of rules published somewhere, checking against it would be a good preparation for getting in contact with some form of community management that is probably present there, so best would be Dave contacts them. Being reasonable of course, they are probably getting quite some complaints.I mean most methods of filtering out inappropriate content have been tried before, e.g. the first chats did have blacklists of words, which were easily circumvented by obscuring with leetspeak or asterisks, anyone could still understand what was meant. A filter that makes no distinction about context or meaning is therefore an indication at best. At least it worked for people with an obvious Keyboard-Tourette-Syndrome.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 06:54:31 pm
content: Quote from: Muxr on November 28, 2017, 05:20:23 pmReading the transcript is fun..."In like Flynn""Chicken Dinner""Price on this Puppy""Hacks available""Whip this thing open""There's some more on the Bottom Side""Had several sucks of the serve(typo)""Around here these are wet electrolyte tights(typo!)""Beauty is a joy forever hold the Wonka""We got Dax(typo) coming out our rear end""Just picking up crap because I've got leads flapping around in the breeze""You'd had(typo) to do extensive probing"I'm surprised more aren't banned

author: Muxr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 07:27:21 pm
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on November 28, 2017, 06:54:31 pmHaha, didn't even notice that..

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 09:42:53 pm
content: I also noticed dave saying in like Flynn but i dont understand , whos Flynn, what has he done?Every time i do a serachon yeoutube for EEVBLOG videos at most i get 2 or 3 results everything else in the list ismixture of plane crash , big boobs, retarded music videos, hipster crap, etc. never ever do i get a clean list witheevblog videos. This hapends no matter computer i use, if its my own or a random public library/internet cafe.How is this possible? How can Youtube have become so full of crap!? I dont understand, and no i haventdone any prior searches for big boobs or plane crashes that Google might keep in a hidden account filesomewhere! But recently when i try to do searches for Daesh tuck bombs i rarely get any anymore!?How do Youtube censor engines censor videos without verbal trash talk to lock onto?

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 09:52:58 pm
content: Quote from: MT on November 28, 2017, 09:42:53 pmIts a sexual reference to the actor Errol Flynn, who was said to be highly active with numerous ladies who spoke highly of his performance.Quote from: MT on November 28, 2017, 09:42:53 pmI just went to YouTube and put "eevblog" in the search box. I got a long list of eevblog videos, and nothing else.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 09:53:57 pm
content: Quote from: MT on November 28, 2017, 09:42:53 pmErrol.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Errol_Flynn(read the Lifestyle Section)

author: Andrew McNamara
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 10:34:38 pm
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on November 28, 2017, 09:53:57 pmThe Dollop podcast recently did a piece on Errol Flynn that's worth listening to:http://thedollop.libsyn.com/299-errol-flynn-live-in-brisbane-w-wil-anderson

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2017, 10:55:43 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on November 28, 2017, 09:52:58 pmAh! So Dave is referring to a dude who died in 1959!QuoteYour lucky!

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 07:06:15 am
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on November 28, 2017, 06:54:31 pmThat one made my day.

author: gslick
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 07:18:07 am
content: His latest video about "Strap-ons" was so bad not only was it demonetized, it disappeared completely.(Patent Piss-Take - Multimeter Innovation!)

author: newbrain
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 09:50:50 am
content: Quote from: MT on November 28, 2017, 10:55:43 pmTried from work (Sweden) and home (tried from both Sweden and Italy), both logged in (FireFox) and unlogged (IE).Only EEVblog videos, ads if I disable the ad-blocker, but no unrelated stuff.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 10:34:27 am
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on November 28, 2017, 06:54:31 pmYoutube auto-transcript is getting better!

author: nixfu
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 03:24:04 pm
content: Good summary of how scummy YT's behavior on these issues is:

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 03:41:50 pm
content: Quote from: newbrain on November 29, 2017, 09:50:50 amI downloaded Avast to try use Avast SafeZone browser and a search inside Youtube i now get a clean list of EVVblog videos! Also tried Opera with some tweaks it made almost a clean list, only 1 or 2 videos of garbage. Wooho!So Chrome, FFox and Explorer is out!

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 04:02:19 pm
content: Quote from: MT on November 29, 2017, 03:41:50 pmI use FireFox on Linux without any special filtering. Going to YouTube and searching for "eevblog" just gives me eevblog videos.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2017, 06:50:29 pm
content: Out like Flynn!

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2017, 12:14:44 am
content: Quote from: coppice on November 28, 2017, 09:52:58 pmI use Win7 and Firefox and ALL I get are his videos, no one elseInteresting about Flynn. My guess it started because Flynn rhymes with "in". The sex part came later. Hopefully YT will ease up on the slang translations.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 30, 2017, 07:29:07 am
content: Another one:

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2017, 10:58:14 am
content: 3x bullshit, 2xcrap, "it's got rubber baby", "bloody", "Leon's probably very proud of his invention of the elastic strap on"

author: nixfu
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 30, 2017, 01:28:40 pm
content: Obviously YT Algo’s are racist against any use of Aussie speech.Dave should sue them for blatant racism and not respecting his culture norms.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2017, 01:54:40 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on November 29, 2017, 04:02:19 pmPoint is, why can YT search algo return boobs and crimes videos mixed with EEVblog videos on a search for EEvblog videos? Clearly the YT algo has a hypocrisy mode if i use Chrome, FF and IE.

author: drussell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2017, 03:44:58 pm
content: Quote from: MT on November 30, 2017, 01:54:40 pmThere must be something up with your computer. I would do some serious checking for viruses and malware (especially tracking stuff). I tried searching for eevblog on several different (7 or 8 different places) computers yesterday at customer sites and such, places where there would be random previous history and never have gone to EEVblog before from that IP, different OSes, etc. both in private windows and their usual profiles. Never once did it pull up anything weird. EEVblog channel at the very top every time and a bunch of popular EEVblog videos below.I simply cannot reproduce anything even remotely like MT is seeing.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 30, 2017, 11:11:34 pm
content: I just did a search on "eevblog" using Chrome.The top 29 results were for:- eevblog.com- Twitter- Youtube channel- Youtube video- Wikipedia- Patreon- Linkedin- Facebook- Hackaday- Flickr- Twitter- iTunes- Socialblade- Amazon- Kodi Wiki- Vimeo- Kickstarter- Teespring- Kodi- Meetup- Dailymotion- Pozible- Electronex- Podtail- Podchaser- forums.xilinx.com- aimtti.com- jeremyblum.com- Circuit Cellar... and they were ALL for Dave.The 30th entry was for a Thunderbird add-on "For fans of the EEVblog website" on addons.mozilla.org

author: drussell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2017, 05:49:03 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on November 30, 2017, 11:11:34 pmWhat do you mean "did a search using Chrome". Were you searching google or something?!I thought we were talking about going toyoutube.comand then enteringeevbloginto the search box... On youtube... Searching on youtube. Why would it say anything about twitter... or kodi... or wikipedia?! I've never seen YouTube try to redirect me to Wikipedia!

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 01, 2017, 07:11:41 am
content: Sorry.I meant a Google search using the Chrome browser.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 01, 2017, 07:32:21 am
content: Dave also has another channel which I either recently discovered again or completely forgot about, don't tell anybody I mentioned it. There are also a couple of included electronics episodes which as far as I know are not on either of the main channels.Altzone Videos.https://www.youtube.com/user/Altzone/videos

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 01, 2017, 07:34:53 am
content: Doing a search on Youtube for "eevblog" gives me an Ad for Cloudberry, followed by this:EEVblog #1043 - MailbageevBLAB #40 - Let's Talk About My ContentEEVblog #1042 - Siglent's $499 SDS1104X-E 4CH Oscilloscope TeardownMCAD Shootout! - Rhino vs Solidworks vs OnShapeEEVblog #1041 - Keysight Calibration Lab TourEEVblog #1040 - Caesium Beam Frequency StandardsEEVblog #1039 - Keysight Metrology Standards LabEEVblog #607 - Agilent B2912A Source Measure Unit SMU TeardownEEVblog #555 - 555 Timer KitEEVblog #717 - How To Hack Vacuum Fluorescent DisplaysEEVblog #859 - Bypass Capacitor TutorialEEVblog #600 - OpAmps Tutorial - What is an Operational Amplifier?EEVblog #1034 - MailbagEEVblog #1042 - Siglent's $499 SDS1104X-E 4CH Oscilloscope TeardownEEVblog #1035 - Flaming DIY Power Supply!EEVblog #1038 - Uni-T UPO2104CS Oscilloscope TeardownEEVblog #993 - MailbagEEVblog #984 - World's Best Dumpster Find! 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$30 eBook Reader TeardownEEVBlog #383 - Agilent 4000X Oscilloscope ReviewEEVblog #229 - IET DE-5000 LCR Meter TeardownEEVblog #761 - Pebble Time Smartwatch TeardownEEVblog #333 - Unwritten Rules of Open Source HardwareEEVblog #513 - MailbagEEVblog #407 - MailbagEEVblog #294 - MailbagEEVblog Bunker First LookEEVblog #143 - Agilent 2000 X Series Infiniivision Oscilloscope ReviewEEVblog #773 - 80W INDUAL LED Light TeardownEEVblog #257 - Makerbot TroubleshootingEEVblog #643 - MailbagEEVblog #377 - Mailbag MondayIs this what you meant?Quote from: drussell on December 01, 2017, 05:49:03 am

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 06, 2017, 03:29:48 am
content: Another one

author: IanMacdonald
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2017, 10:38:29 am
content: The craziest thing is that anything religious is allowed, even if it's sick shit like this:VIDEO REMOVEDNot even an age advisory on it.Would be an interesting experiment to see if a video of a dead mouse being nailed to a plank would be pulled. If yes, why is this allowed?No offence intended to non BDSM-oriented Christians, BTW.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2017, 11:47:51 am
content: I recommend the transcripts to everyone"pulled out of my ass 40mm thank you""the primum ones are just more rubbery the the the trout on the end""that's why I haven't really whipped them"

author: bicycleguy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2017, 06:34:46 pm
content: Thought everyone would be interested to know that it isn't just fun words like Dave uses.Here a link to one of a series of public service video's updating the Oroville dam repair in California that have been made by a guy that never says any thing bad. He mentions his youtube problems at about 17:06.https://youtu.be/1zFkgb1cmgg

author: imidis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2017, 06:37:30 pm
content: Crazy, I wonder what algorithm they use to decide it.

author: drussell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2017, 10:12:42 pm
content: Quote from: bicycleguy on December 06, 2017, 06:34:46 pmYeah, Juan Browne has had by far the most informative coverage of the situation, yet falls victim to YouTube's sillyness. Absolutely absurd!

author: drussell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2017, 01:00:30 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on December 06, 2017, 10:24:08 pmThat is exactly what many creators seem to be doing right now. They're posting their videos, unlisted, for several days to allow the algorithm to flag the video, request a manual review, get it re-monetized, then release it publicly.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2017, 01:41:20 am
content: Yep, that is exactly what I have been doing, and recommending to others to do.

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2017, 10:24:00 am
content: That blancolino example is hard, i knew his videos as well, impossible for me to tell why youtube would do that.OTOH youtube seems to try automating moderation, wasn´t there something on the news about someone making big claims about doing so a while back? I thoughthere. I moderate next to 20-50 others in a huge forum (>2,8M users, ~10k posts/d) as well and know the challenges associated with that, in short: forget it, even for solely text based content with user generated alarms there is always wisdom/reasoning/fact checking required to solve disputes. Thanks to libwwwperl I can and do automate a few things regarding sorting of content, but it will always be fuzzy and requires human oversight, otherwise it will go crazy - of course my solutions are nowhere near a semantic analysis approach of google, but i do the work manually on a daily basis.I.e.: If one user ill-advises people and another loses temper and calls BS on that... the algorithm (or moderators with a low specific weight between ears) might probably try to keep the nicer sounding explanation and that creates a nice little echo chamber full of manure. I guess rise of such ecosystems in certain communities explains why e.g. Thunderf00t @ youtube has so much to do these days :-)It´s hard to tell if youtube is inclined to do something about that algorithm going wild, they seem to still monetize off the video.Many have failed in trying to work without content moderation of some form, if they are not outright ignoring any problem and get a big slap and a fine by a judge for having done so. Facebook, Twitter or Google all met a legal barrier of some form for whatever ill content people do upload. It is the base of why some even started to become so fast so big, they rushed these legal issues and never cared about such things that would give other people nightmares about what they publish.Of course Freedom of speech is a thing in most countries, but it is that usually toward the government or between each other at your own cost, not limitless on a private entity´s server that takes a publishers role. It would be like suing a newspaper for not printing/publishing whatever you wanted them to print/publish.Criticism of these companies should in my mind however also regard that youtube does host content for free, even if not monetized. See e.g.this by Louis Rossmann.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 08, 2017, 09:56:59 pm
content: Another one.And before people ask, no I can't just upload the video and wait a bit and then file dispute before releasing. It seems to take a day or two after release to trigger it.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 08, 2017, 11:32:34 pm
content: Dave - Do you have any stats on your videos to show the monetisation value of a video on a daily basis - perhaps views per day for, say 30days. I would imagine the first days after release would show a climb as people became aware, followed by a period of significant numbers and then falling over time.The thought that occurs to me is that this demonetisation sounds like the perfect recipe to chop out some revenue from the most valuable period of a video's release.I would be curious to see a bar chart of views per day - with the demonetised days (as you might typically experience) in a different bar colour.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 12:10:34 am
content: If it hasn't already been done somebody should make a completely inane and inaudible video like record a clock for ten minutes or something and see if it gets demonised by these evil fiends.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 12:15:51 am
content: More!

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 01:16:15 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 08, 2017, 09:56:59 pmWhat about uploading it, letting it go live for a couple of minutes, then making it unlisted, to see if that causes the demonetized issue to show up?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 01:21:46 am
content: None of mine seem to have been affected - maybe the auto-transcript thing can't understand what I'm saying..!

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 01:24:00 am
content: Quote from: TheDefpom on December 09, 2017, 01:16:15 amNot sure how that would help as making it public sends out the notification emails, so wouldn't affect the view profile of subscribers

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 01:28:22 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 09, 2017, 12:15:51 amWell, if you are going to make videos that show bias, you must expect trouble.Seriously, from some of the things I've seen recently, "bias" could well be a trigger word.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 01:29:04 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on December 09, 2017, 01:24:00 amNot everyone uses email notifications, I don’t, I just thought doing that would reduce the impact, those that get notified will see it, if it gets hit then at least less views will be demonetized, so ithose that view it from twitter notifications or browsing to the channel/Subscriptions page will watch it later after the demonetization is fixed.

author: HwAoRrDk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 02:53:43 am
content: Here's a theory that just came into my head:What if, due to all the pressure from major corporates, press, government, etc. to expunge the 'bad stuff' ("remove copyrighted content!", "remove terrorist propaganda!", "remove content exploiting children!", and so on) on their platform, YouTube are performing radical experiments with regard to content recognition and filtering algorithms, and are using the whole 'request a manual review' process as some kind of feedback or training for these new algorithms?Alternatively, another thing that comes to mind is that perhaps their hand has been forced into relying too much on algorithms because of trouble Google have been having with their outsourced moderating and review staff? Google apparently has (or had) a huge number of staff they call 'Raters' that provide human feedback to all their ranking, categorisation and filtering algorithms all across Google's services. It surely can't be coincidence that this YouTube 'Adpocalypse' comes at a time during which a (or the?) major company providing staff for this stuff, LeapForce, has tanked and been taken over by a rival.https://arstechnica.com/features/2017/04/the-secret-lives-of-google-raters/https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-raters-at-leapforce-settle-legal-complaints-over-abuse-wages-owed/

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 05:50:30 am
content: I've been thinking along a similar line - but perhaps not so "conspiracy theory" flavoured - for a while now.Basically, if I were Youtube, I would be looking at automated processes to handle the volume of material and to reduce staff costs. Having an algorithm that is good at transcription is where you would start - and after that, start with your basic lexicon of trigger phrases and let the system go - with the expectation that it will be overly harsh in its determinations at the beginning.Feedback from creators would then be addressed and the results used to train the demonetisation algorithm. Over time, the algorithm would improve its performance.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 06:48:56 am
content: On the Patreon thing what they are doing is actually illegal here, the merchants ( in this case Dave) are by law not allowed to charge a handling or service fee for using a service for payment. Thus they fall into the same league as Visa and Mastercard ( also Diners and American express, though the number of merchants that accept these two is vanishingly small in this country because of the fees they charge) in accepting a non cash method for payment for goods and services. Same for direct deposit as well, the banks are not allowed to charge a service fee to the customer to pay a bill at the bank.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 07:55:21 am
content: Quote from: SeanB on December 09, 2017, 06:48:56 amWe used to have that here in Oz, but they changed it. It's now legal for merchants to say "3% extra for CC payment" etc.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 09:32:57 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 09, 2017, 07:55:21 amDouble dipping, they still charge the merchant as well, plus a monthly "service" fee as well.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 10:24:27 pm
content: I'm calling it. Every one of my new video uploads is now being demonetised.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 10:55:08 pm
content: Based on the whole Leapforce thing, if they are rating YT videos based on some predetermined very strict guidelines, I can't help but wonder if regular "joe hater" could be tipping the scales in favor of his preferred target.Also, if a channel has its content demonetized regularly, I wonder if this becomes a bit more commonplace?One can only wonder...

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 11:06:54 pm
content: There is an absolute disgusting racist religionist hate scumbag on youtube known as Count Dankula. Most of his hate videos are automatically censored, I mean lets not forget this guy made a joke video of his girlfriends cute pug dog being trained to raise its paw when presented with "Heil Hitler", and getting excited with "Gas the Jews!".Thankfully the police and the court system are using the UK Hate Speech laws because an individual was offended at this joke video on behalf of someone or some group else. Dankula has lost his job (quite rightly!) and is in and out of court constantly, I think it's 2 years now, because the Nazi Pug is a very very complex case. We need to bring back hanging.His last released video was titled "Give Minorities All Of Your Money" and it is the only one that has not been demonetized. I think he is learning his lesson, but if you watch the video it would appear to be a hate crime video too. Unfortunately when a youtube video that has all the right SJW credentials and passes the algorithm is finally reported, a human is involved. These "humans" can't understand a thick Scottish accent and also don't understand sarcasm, so will approve it anyway./sHint: Stick as much SJW crap possible in the title, and switch from a Sydney accent to a total bogan outback accent and you'll be alright you drongo bastard!

author: drussell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2017, 11:25:21 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 09, 2017, 10:24:27 pmThat is to be expected. If the average person isn't going to instantly understandpreciselywhat your video is about, (ie. cat chasing fuzzy mouse in circles,) you are unfortunately very likely to end up eventually essentially being deemed "default demonetized" under the current structure for various different possible "reasons."

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2017, 08:05:51 am
content: Did you try the review for any of them?Alexander.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 10, 2017, 08:20:07 am
content: Quote from: firewalker on December 10, 2017, 08:05:51 amManual review almost always fixes it.

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2017, 09:49:15 am
content: anything squeamish like your knee surgery or having the potential for litigation or discredit a brand name or abbreviation use of a name that may or may-not be sexual or controversial. triggers

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2017, 10:09:34 am
content: Quote from: Macbeth on December 09, 2017, 11:06:54 pmWithout wishing to derail this thread, I am not sure everyone sees it the way you’ve portrayed.Not sure if it’s clear, but you do realise the video in question was a parody, albeit in very bad taste? The perp emphatically rejects accusations that he himself is anti-semitic or otherwise racist.I strongly suspect the case will be thrown out from the evidence I’ve seen presented in court so far, but equally I am going off media court reporting, of course I am not in the court itself. Even if it doesn’t go his way, he’ll get a minor slap on the wrist, it would be difficult to claim it was his intention to deliberately stir up hate.In the meantime the furore in the MSM has done his YT channel no disservice in terms of subscriptions and views. Even the MSM, who were initially unilaterally vitriolic about it seem to have become remarkably balanced on their reporting more recently, possibly because it’s now sub judice. If you’ve ever had to deal with the MSM, you’ll know how they love to twist a story to fit whatever agenda they want, this is true across the political spectrum.[I learned the hard way some years ago about the MSM when I was organising kids to chat to astronauts on the ISS. We had organised a live link up to a school in the outer Hebrides, it’s a very cool thing to do. The next day for reasons known only to themselves the Daily Record decided to put a very negative spin on it just because they didn’t get to speak to the astronauts in Gaelic. It was NASA who drew my attention to the article, thankfully they were very understanding, but we were all quite shocked at how the MSM “works”.]

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2017, 10:36:36 am
content: Thanks HwAoRrDk for these links, very informative and might explain a few things. I wonder how much they actually do directly. "Checking algorithms" can mean a lot...In my opinion, the hate speech laws (which are somewhat related to this) were introduced too hastily. Now it´s mostly up to volunteers or paid "raters" to draw a line between opinion, sarcasm, satire, irony and hate - in an international connected network across jurisdictions. And it is not even the board admins fault, the responsibility was shifted from who does a statement to who does not remove it. Even courts do have a hard time making such decisions (at least in high profile cases), now it needs to be decided by the lowest paygrade in the system in a reasonable time and in a legally correct manner.E.g.:- insulting an inanimate object = no legal problem in most cultures- insulting a person or group = big problemSo the insult itself is often not what is being judged upon here.From my understanding (12 years experience) the biggest catch in moderation is moderating the intention behind a statement. That is somewhat short of impersonating a thought police and might lead to addressing immutable characteristics of a person (which is a big problem). Of course some cases are not a misunderstanding at all and outright "hate speech", spam or sarcasm. But weeks of demagoguery/incitement that are below the threshold of the law cause such expressions. It´s the same intention, but gone one step further. Rules that contain specific examples is like an invitation to trolls or other ill-minded people to test their boundaries.Forums with a specialized (technical) topic are usually not affected by that a lot, because everything off topic is off the grid anyway and can be removed as such without much consideration. It´s the big players with no such specialization that are hit hard, because they lack that context as a guideline.Now that also means that rules for everyone on such a platform are orientated by the worst cases, making it harder for everyone else.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2017, 11:43:17 am
content: I wonder if there is some "flag" on a channel that makes it more likely to be demonetized - seems odd that amost all Dave's are but none of mine.Might also be type of monetization - I tend to do the minimum on mine when first released then add more on older vids when I do a new one.Just doing a new one today so let's see if that triggers anything..

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2017, 11:52:18 am
content: Someone (can't remember the channel) said that leaving the video without making it public will also trigger the issue. He waits for couple of days before posting it. If it gets demonetized, he will request a review, monetize it and make it public after that.Alexander.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2017, 09:49:46 am
content: YouTube Demonetization Screenshot Leaks + Secret YouTube Meetinghttp://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqbsph

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2017, 10:23:32 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on December 12, 2017, 10:07:38 amBut this way they get to avoid any accusations of censorship and can blame their advertisers

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2017, 03:59:13 pm
content: Well, it mentions moderation by "how someone feels about a video". That´s bad news for anyone who debunks claims, cause it rallies against the fluffy marketing-candy speech of what i would call fraudulent people (and it is no news that people running schemes sound convincing - otherwise they wouldn´t be successful in it).

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2017, 10:49:21 pm
content: Mailbag

author: W2NAP
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2017, 10:57:18 pm
content: didn't make it advertiser friendly for 4 year olds.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2017, 11:05:50 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 30, 2017, 10:49:21 pmAssmann.

author: ChrisLX200
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2017, 11:47:37 pm
content: For attacking poor defenceless parcels with big knife?

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2017, 12:20:26 am
content: Mailbag... hmm... Sounds a bit like male bag... like a bawsack attached to a toxic privileged white male

author: AlphZeta
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2017, 04:37:26 pm
content: Many of my recent video uploads were demonetized as well but all were repealed successfully after requesting for manual reviews. Wondering if words like "teardown" or "open it up" could be the culprit. It is really annoying indeed.https://www.youtube.com/user/KerryWongBlog

author: witnessmenow
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2018, 01:00:09 pm
content: I had a video demonetized for a a small bit last week, and honestly it was the most innocent video imaginable. It was a video on programming a certain Arduino chip and nothing even close to an offensive word so I have literally no idea how it could have been flagged so it really makes me question how youtube are flagging stuff.I don't really on mine at all (very small channel), but it really does go to show the importance of YouTubers diversifying their income!

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 03, 2018, 04:50:16 pm
content: Waving with a big knife talking about nude virgins and Youtube reaction turns into similarly totalitarianism what Daesh does/did.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2018, 08:33:12 am
content: *Gray bearded nude virgins.

author: HwAoRrDk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2018, 11:58:14 am
content: I notice Dave has posted a couple of videos on his EEVblog2 channel that feature nothing but white and brownian noise to test YouTube's copyright bots. I guess in response to this:https://twitter.com/littlescale/status/949032404206870528.Should've also tried posting an entirely silent video to see if he gets any copyright claims alleging he's copying4'33"by John Cage.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 05, 2018, 03:51:16 pm
content: Maybe it's his Zen.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 10, 2018, 09:53:55 pm
content: Another one

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2018, 11:07:38 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 09, 2017, 10:24:27 pmThere must be someone who is actively reporting your videos as 'inappropriate'.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 22, 2018, 11:53:17 am
content: Been forgetting to keep posting here

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2018, 12:26:43 pm
content: Does this cause a drop of income from youtube?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 22, 2018, 01:27:13 pm
content: Quote from: Jeroen3 on January 22, 2018, 12:26:43 pmNot really, as majority of views come from existing content.

author: witnessmenow
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2018, 01:59:28 pm
content: Will be interesting to see the impact of this with the changes that YT are bringing in with manual reviews, you'd imagine it should eliminate them entirely right?

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 01:20:02 am
content: ISTR you mentioned Jordan Peterson once in one of your live streams recently, you should consider yourself lucky it’s only demonetization, and not straight off to the Gulag for you.

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2018, 04:19:40 pm
content: Could it be that the transcription contains fragments of song lyrics or trademarks or the like? (i guess we can agree that the demonetization algorithm does a terrible job already)Found a nice argument regarding youtube content and advertiser friendliness in there:

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2018, 05:58:26 pm
content: Interesting video from Louis (?) Rossmann. It means Dave has to name all his video's with 'can suck my d**k' in the title. Solar roadways can suck.... Hyperloop can... The new Rigol scope can...

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 29, 2018, 02:04:30 am
content: Likethat'sgoing to happen...

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2018, 10:36:23 pm
content: A frequently quoted fundamental problem here is transparency, Youtube don’t give anywhere near clear enough guidance up front, and, when videos are demonetised, they don’t explain why so you can avoid it in future. There is also pretty clear evidence that some channels, particularly MSM ones, avoid the blacklisting completely. Mostly it just seems arbitrary. Perhaps sometimes it’s end users flagging as innappropriate.There are several reasons we can give for the arbitrary nature of demonetisation, but other than end user flagging, the algorithms are clearly crap. That’s quite a frightening indictment for a company whose fundamental business is built on the quality of its software. More frightening is if those algortihms are based on AI to any degree, in a complex system such as Youtube’s which I am sure is an organic derivation of a series of spaghetti wired tweaks, I doubt anyone knows how it works at all: all you can do is prod it empirically and hope it doesn’t break too much. I’d contest that they’ve already prodded it too much, hence the level of excessive demonetisation.One way they could help themselves is to re-monetise the revenue lost during the period of arbitrary demonetisation, I assume they don’t. The first hours of release when demonetisation happens are also where the bulk of views occur. More fundamentally, just be fully transparent about the detail of demonetisation reasons both before and after, although as I mentioned, I don’t think they actually have a clue most if the time. Evidently Google’s not such a great software company after all.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2018, 11:17:30 pm
content: I seriously wonder if maybe it could be something about the Ozzie accent & Google's speech recognition?None of my vids have been affected, and the target audience has to be pretty much the same.

author: glarsson
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2018, 11:20:51 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on January 30, 2018, 10:36:23 pmYou sound surprised.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2018, 11:31:15 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 30, 2018, 11:17:30 pmCould very well be part of it.But it seems to happen on a broad range of content. And like many other channels are experiencing, it now feels very much that our channels have been "flagged" in some way.As an aside, it's mostly only new content it's happening on, only a couple of older videos have been hit. And that's interesting give the number of videos that I have.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2018, 02:53:05 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 30, 2018, 11:31:15 pmI am not quite sure, given that some fellow Brazilian bloggers had videos demonetized as well - and Portuguese speech recognition is not advanced at all.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2018, 05:45:00 am
content: Quote from: rsjsouza on January 31, 2018, 02:53:05 amIt's definitely not the entire reason, and there is plenty of evidence my Louis across many different channel types that get some really hard core speech and keywords monetised.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2018, 08:07:40 am
content: Maybe it simply triggers if it can't understand enough of the speech

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2018, 11:31:24 am
content: But I think his speech is easier to understand than yours, for example, you tend to talk almost non-stop mike, with very little pauses.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2018, 11:44:02 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 31, 2018, 08:07:40 amBut plenty of examples of US channels getting almost every video demonetised regardless.Most top youtubers being hit believe their channels are deliberately (auto-magically or perhaps manually) put onto a naughty list that seriously demotes their channel in this respect.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2018, 02:36:20 pm
content: YouTube should explain their evaluating process, how they determine if videos are advertiser friendly or should be demonetized. My first idea was that they got an AI. But after seeing all the other examples I think the process is based more likely on user reports. There are channels reporting nearly no demonetized videos despite having clickbait titles and lot's of cursing and f words. I think this demonetization business is a big hypocrisy.

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2018, 02:49:56 pm
content: But none of his videos is pro-Trump so he's most likely a victim of google's AI rather than "H"I.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2018, 08:20:54 pm
content: While they’re the only game in town, they probably don’t really care much about transparency. Any minnows coming along that pose a serious threat they’ll buy out.Twitch and Vimeo spring to mind, but they’re probably not serious enough threats yet to warrant enough payout.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 06, 2018, 09:50:43 am
content: Unreleased video about multimeters with the title "00012", no description, and no keywords gets demonetised.Insane.

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2018, 11:48:17 am
content: Resistance is futile you will be assimilated.

author: drussell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2018, 02:56:06 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 06, 2018, 09:50:43 amIndeed...At least that means it is certainly something in the automated system flagging all your videos, not someone going around manually flagging videos, being a troll....

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2018, 09:07:27 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 06, 2018, 09:50:43 amWell, what do you know? The future is here. Youtube consulted with the precogs and found out this video is up to no good. Expect the PreCrime agents to show up soon to your home.(what an idiotic thing...)

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2018, 02:08:06 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 06, 2018, 09:50:43 amHave you checked out what the google automatic "speech to text translation" makes of it? It's short enough to take a quick transcription.There are probably some keywords that are a common bad translation of your Sydney accent and / or perfectly fine Ozzy colloquialisms that are deemed extremely offensive microagressions to the SJW's that run Silicon Valley these days.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2018, 02:47:39 am
content: Its not difficult to make your own video site that will handle embeds properly, etc.How much can the bandwidth cost? Bandwidth's costs keep falling.

author: gnavigator1007
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2018, 04:16:07 am
content: Have any of the guest videos been demonetised?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2018, 04:58:46 am
content: Quote from: gnavigator1007 on February 07, 2018, 04:16:07 amI think one of them was, but fixed before it went live.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2018, 05:00:06 am
content: Quote from: Macbeth on February 07, 2018, 02:08:06 amYes, and was about to do a video on this, but it's now automagically fixedThe translation was almost perfect actually, I was surprised.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2018, 05:26:55 am
content: Quote from: drussell on February 06, 2018, 02:56:06 pmThis was on EEVblog2 BTW.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2018, 09:23:04 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 07, 2018, 05:00:06 amProbably fan working in YouTube following you on Twitter or watching here.

author: witnessmenow
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 07, 2018, 12:02:52 pm
content: I wonder if it was my guest video, cause everything I though turns to yellow at the minuteMy last 3 proper videos (not live streams) have been demonetized, I only had enough views on one of them to get it properly reviewed, but the other two also automagically fixed themselves after a day or two.I released 20+ videos last year and none were demonetized (although a lot of them weren't monetized at all to begin with)It doesn't really impact me at all but at the same time it's very frustrating to not have a clue why it's happening.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 07, 2018, 12:12:50 pm
content: Quote from: Towger on February 07, 2018, 09:23:04 amThat has happened before for other things, but I've seen this happen with videos that I haven't mentioned anywhere. And other channels report similar issues.

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2018, 06:33:37 am
content: QuoteWow, also (currently) 505 thumbs up, 58 down.Is people unhappy for the 'unpolished' eevblog2 format?

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2018, 08:14:40 am
content: Unbelievable. That's google's AI. And they want the cars to drive alone lol.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2018, 12:24:35 pm
content: Quote from: bitwelder on February 09, 2018, 06:33:37 amThere seems to be more and more comments on the lack of production quality on EEVblog2 content (which is of course the whole idea of EEVblog2). Maybe that's inevitable as the channel grows?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2018, 12:25:03 pm
content: Regular as clockworkhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/list-of-demonetised-eevblog-videos/?action=dlattach;attach=394125;image

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2018, 10:54:29 pm
content: Be happy they didn't demonetise your entire channel. Today I read an article saying Youtube demonetised and entire channel which made the owner over a million dollars per month because of one video.This starts to smell like censorship!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2018, 11:43:19 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on February 11, 2018, 10:54:29 pmSorry, but I'm calling BS on that.$1M/month from one video would need around2 billion views a month.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2018, 12:15:45 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 11, 2018, 11:43:19 pmYou are misreading. According to the news article the owner (Logan Paul) posted a video (or a couple of videos) which people objected to and as a result ALL videos on the channel got demonetised. Article in English:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/feb/09/youtube-logan-paul-dead-rat-taser-video-google

author: mikerj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2018, 05:16:47 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on February 11, 2018, 10:54:29 pmIt was an entirely fair decision IMO. The guy either decided to ignore the repercussions of his previous bad taste video, or is simply incapable of judging what is and isn't acceptable. The only loser in this case is Logan Paul.

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2018, 08:22:06 pm
content: Oh dear, google has got you happy.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2018, 10:28:12 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 11, 2018, 12:24:35 pmI think its inevitable, its also easy (for me) to open a video and miss the "EEVblog" name has a 2 at the end.Changing the channel name, title, or adding intro text might be an option, but I would just ignore it.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2018, 12:05:16 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 11, 2018, 12:24:35 pmSpeaking of quality, I love the new music/flix at the end of the main channel's videos. I liked the ancient introduction clip with the Altium board spinning on the screen.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2018, 12:09:53 am
content: Quote from: thm_w on February 13, 2018, 10:28:12 pmIt's in the title. "Proper" EEVblog videos have "EEVblog #xxxx" in the title. Pretty hard to mix up the main content with the supplemental stuff, even supplement stuff I put on the main channel.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2018, 02:08:08 am
content: I think you overestimate the observational skills ofsomeof those who watch your material.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2018, 12:41:31 pm
content: Not only that, Brumby, but videos embedded on web pages do not necessarily show the title (at least not in a prominent way). That becomes easy to confuse between the two.Perhaps add a short intro just like the one I mentioned before? (no, I have no hidden reasons, despite what I said two posts ago...)

author: orion242
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2018, 02:42:44 pm
content: Willing to bet its going to get alot worse on youtube to make $0.05.https://www.wsj.com/articles/unilever-threatens-to-reduce-ad-spending-on-tech-platforms-that-dont-combat-divisive-content-1518398578Not only are the advertisers waking up to the crap that their ads where played on, they are starting to get a clue that click farms, ad blockers, and such are making online advertising far less productive than claimed.https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/12/20/methbot-biggest-ad-fraud-busted/#210134054899https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/43yqdd/look-at-this-massive-click-fraud-farm-that-was-just-busted-in-thailandhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/crooks-created-28-fake-ad-agencies-to-disguise-massive-malvertising-campaign/And it goes on and on and on. Something will have to drastically change or online advertising will collapse.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2018, 03:01:02 pm
content: There's nothing wrong with flagging some inappropriate content. The problem is that YouTube isn't able to do that reliably, causing appropriate content to be flagged too. If a system creates too much false positives it's the wrong tool.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2018, 04:45:46 pm
content: Quote from: orion242 on February 14, 2018, 02:42:44 pmAlthough I don't believe that online advertising will collapse - after all, marketing is what sponsors the internet and its free content since the late 1990s - the pushback is a move long predicted. The issue is the massive can of worms that it will open, especially in the definitions of "divisive content", "hate speech" or "fake news", which are extremely fluid these days. I can imagine one of Dave's rants being flagged as "hate speech" or "slander" where the only intent was to promote discussion about a specific topic.Somehow I suspect the Youtube content reviewers will have much more work to do...

author: orion242
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2018, 05:42:32 pm
content: Maybe not a total collapse, but if online ad spending was cut by 50% or more because of all the fraud, bad PR, what does the "free" internet look like?YT has an impossible task trying to keep all the advertisers happy. By the time they are happy, might be nothing worthwhile added to their platform as the creators move on.On the filp side, maybe we see a group that's 180 deg apart from the current SJWs that boycott the advertisers because they pulled out of the beloved platform. Now that would be a fun development to watch.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2018, 02:34:34 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 15, 2018, 12:54:13 amI think torture is a banned subjectDave 2 did some really cool work on this

author: orion242
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2018, 03:00:13 am
content: Ditto on the test jig

author: GeorgeOfTheJungle
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2018, 10:21:40 am
content: There may be humans here:https://goo.gl/maps/Di78WsWCCxntime to pay a visit?

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2018, 01:46:01 pm
content: The streetview there is hilarious.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 18, 2018, 09:56:35 am
content: Now they are approving videos that weren't even demonetised in the first place

author: Barny
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2018, 10:13:26 am
content: Perhaps now they were annoyed by your mails, so they're automatically review all of your videos manually but forgot to switch of the OK-Email if everything is allright.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2018, 02:24:41 pm
content: I see a fantastic market opportunity for some/thing/one to replace YouGoogle as it is clearly going down the drain.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2018, 06:21:05 pm
content: I know this is a long shot but ....A few months ago here in the US was a national news story that our government has over 300 billion license plate numbers in a database and can track every car over the last five years.In Calif, the max chars in a plate number is 7. In some of Dave's video is a CA plate with 8 chars. Could YT be also tracking plate numbers (why not ?) and his 8 char plate is confusing them?

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2018, 06:39:23 pm
content: Quote from: MT on April 18, 2018, 02:24:41 pmFor the Youtube part, Twitch certainly seems to be taking a lot of gamer traffic, I think that’s pushed towards live streaming rather than on demand, but ISTBC. Vimeo is the other obvious one, but its community remains tiny compared to Youtube. Somewhat interestingly I’ve regullarly been fed Vimeo ads on Youtube for the past week or so.Even Philip DeFranco’s getting regularly demonetised which seems bizarre as I’ve always considered his content to be up there with just the kind of non-controversial content Youtube should be promoting.Without any other evidence, this is indicative of broken algorithms, very likely as a result of AI, where nobody really knows how it’s making the decisions. So much for their supposedly really smart programmers they have there.Regrettably Youtube is still the #1 video content site, but I agree, we could do with some competition.

author: orion242
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2018, 02:35:37 pm
content: AI to the rescue!http://www.wired.co.uk/article/google-youtube-ai-extremist-content

author: FrankBuss
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 19, 2018, 07:57:51 pm
content: There is an interesting variation on the topic: Looks like Youtube starts to block and disable channels completely, if they don't allow ads, even if the owner don't want ads or money from it.https://www.blender.org/media-exposure/youtube-blocks-blender-videos-worldwide/

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 19, 2018, 08:10:59 pm
content: Quote from: FrankBuss on June 19, 2018, 07:57:51 pmAlso MIT OpenCourseWarehttps://www.tomshardware.com/news/youtube-blocks-channels-eu-copyright,37318.html

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2018, 08:20:25 pm
content: It’s bizarre, one of my channels I put forward for monetisation in February, and I’m still waiting for Youtube to make a “decision”. It keeps getting put back to the end of the month.It’s not a big deal for me, it only has around 130k views/month, but it’d be nice for it to pay for Youtube Premium that’s was just opened up to the UK yesterday.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2018, 03:36:29 pm
content: Richard Stallman's most dire predictions from 20 years ago are all coming true.God forbid that ANY educational anything could be free.I am not joking, I am totally serious.By the way, these arbitrary decisions are likely to be AI driven. This is the future, arbitrary decisions by totally unchallengeable unauditable unaccountable AI binary blobs.Quote from: ChunkyPastaSauce on June 19, 2018, 08:10:59 pm