hyland psu high power mod - Page 1
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author: p.larner
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timestamp: April 03, 2024, 08:22:57 am
content: can ths be modded for higher current output say 30 amps by increasing the pass transistors,say 6x 2n3055 jobs with there emmiter ballance resistors , also using a 50a bridge rectifier and 30.000uf filter caps and a lower value current sense resistor?

author: coromonadalix
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timestamp: April 03, 2024, 10:46:36 am
content: current sense resistor need to be bigger in wattage / or many in parallel and be recalculated for 30 amppre-driver q2 may need to be recalculated and associated parts for more power transistors ....i would suggest a fan on the power transistors heatsink ... or even add switched transformer secondaries ...

author: Zero999
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timestamp: April 03, 2024, 11:22:28 am
content: That old power supply project has errors which need to be corrected first, before you even think about modifying it to increase the current.Corrected BoM and schematic.Another potential candidate for U1, U1 and U3 is the TL082H, but I believe it's SMT only, so an adaptor board is required, if you're using the existing PCB or must have through hole.https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tl082h.pdf

author: p.larner
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timestamp: April 03, 2024, 02:21:30 pm
content: I am aware of the boards faults but i am asking if my train of thought will work if i upgrade the components,basicaly use this as a driver for an existing psu output section? ie 6x 2n3055 pass units with the 0.1 ohm emitter resistors.is the logic behind my thinking ok?,

author: coromonadalix
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timestamp: April 03, 2024, 03:15:14 pm
content: yes it should work with minor adjustments

author: Zero999
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timestamp: April 03, 2024, 09:07:33 pm
content: Quote from: p.larner on April 03, 2024, 02:21:30 pmI would use more than six 2N3055s, at least eight. Duplicate Q2, Q4, Q5 and the associated emitter resistors another seven times. You might also have to add a pass transistor or another emitter follower to U2, as it's unlikely it'll be able to source enough current. Unfortunately that'll increase the voltage drop a bit, which will reduce the maximum possible output current under full load.A linear regulator at such a high power level isn't very practical.

author: p.larner
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timestamp: April 04, 2024, 04:23:52 pm
content: I am starting to build this,the kit came with tl081 opamps,i have some LF357n and some ua748cp opamps,what would be best to use?,thanks in advance.

author: coromonadalix
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timestamp: April 04, 2024, 04:36:33 pm
content: @Zero999 it depends of the usesan smps is practical and dissipate a lot less ... but can be sensible on inductives or capacitives loads ??the bests are: linear and smps or phase controlled psus like the Xantrex, Lambda, Sorensen etc ...

author: p.larner
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timestamp: April 04, 2024, 04:55:35 pm
content: I dont mean to sound rude but as i already have this,how about actualy giving an answer to my specific question and not go off on a tangent ok,best regards Paul.

author: Zero999
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timestamp: April 04, 2024, 06:49:37 pm
content: Quote from: p.larner on April 04, 2024, 04:23:52 pmIf you've got the TL081 than obviously use those.Failing that. The circuit will probably work with any of those, with some modifications.The UA748 is uncompensated and requires an additional capacitor. The resistor values for the offset nulling circuit will also need to be altered.https://datasheetspdf.com/mobile/1305449/Fairchild/UA748/1http://www.elektronikjk.com/elementy_czynne/IC/UA748-3.pdfThe LF357 is frequency compensated but has a different offset nulling scheme.https://www.mouser.co.uk/datasheet/2/389/ST_LF155D_to_LF357N-1204072.pdf

author: p.larner
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timestamp: April 09, 2024, 09:25:03 am
content: can someone tell me how to connect an external rectifier to this?,i have one like an alluminium block with one corner chamfered representing + out from the bridge,can anyone tell me what points to connect what place on the pcb to,a pic would be best,thanks Paul l.

author: p.larner
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timestamp: April 09, 2024, 10:49:07 am
content: just to add,i did do this mod with an offboard rectifier a couple of years ago,if i remember i had to cut and bridge some tracks near where the rectifier diodes were on the original pcb,trouble is i cant find the pcb i modded or remember what i did,i can just feed the offboard bridge plus and minus output to the tracks that feed the filter cap,its the part for the minus supply i am stuck at,ie to power the charge pump,also the psu raw power goes too a 22000uf filter cap off board,the voltage on that is 29.6vdc,will 741 or the original tl081 opamps be ok?.