Keysight Scope 88% Off - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2023, 11:32:48 pm
content: I know they advertise on the forum, but I was just browsing the Keysight store out of curiosity and saw an older 5000 series for 88% off, $750.And 6000 series scopes for 80% off.Seems like they are clearing them out super cheap.Just follow the ad link above.

author: mwb1100
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 12:20:28 am
content: Any idea what options E00, MEN8M, and MST are? The datasheet makes no mention and Google has failed me.

author: Xtremexp
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 12:35:30 am
content: Where is the link?

author: mwb1100
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 12:44:23 am
content: Quote from: Xtremexp on January 07, 2023, 12:35:30 amIt's in an ad at the top of the forum page. You need to turn off adblocking.Also, the offer says "No accessories included". That might mean no probes.

author: Trader
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 01:53:49 am
content: Quote from: Xtremexp on January 07, 2023, 12:35:30 amhttps://saving.em.keysight.com/en/used/oscilloscopes

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 03:43:11 am
content: Quote from: mwb1100 on January 07, 2023, 12:20:28 amMEM8M would be the 8M memory, don't about the others.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 12:39:08 pm
content: No 5000 or 6000 series scope visible for me.Maybe sold or not showing for Germany?

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 02:20:31 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on January 07, 2023, 12:39:08 pmNeither in the Netherlands...

author: Villain
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 10:34:00 pm
content: with australian vpn they are showing

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 10:41:17 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on January 07, 2023, 12:39:08 pmShows for me.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2023, 10:51:30 pm
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on January 07, 2023, 02:20:31 pmThey show up just fine at my end. I like this deal better though:https://saving.em.keysight.com/en/used/other-accessories/n4391a-e18522482770890% discount!

author: Villain
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 01:57:33 am
content: Now they show up for me without vpn as well.

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 08:26:50 am
content: Funny. They are listing a lot of obsolete stuff. I'm surprised they want anything to do with selling that.https://saving.em.keysight.com/en/used/spectrum-signal-analyzers/e4440a-e175384628091Is a $176,613.00 Spectrum Analyzer from 200? better than a new $17,661.30 spectrum analyzer now?

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 09:05:31 am
content: I can confirm that they do show now, but first time I checked definitely not.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 09:10:27 am
content: Quote from: Smokey on January 08, 2023, 08:26:50 amThat is quite an impressive discount, but I wonder who the target customer is? $18k seems like it's in that awkward void well out of reach of all but the most serious hobbyists or freelance engineers, while I doubt most large corporations are going to be buying deeply discounted older gear.

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 10:18:19 am
content: Quote from: james_s on January 08, 2023, 09:10:27 amMy question, said another way, is... what does that old scope do that I can't buy for $18K now?

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 12:47:31 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on January 07, 2023, 12:39:08 pmThat's because they won't ship to the EU on account of RoHS issues. You can get around it with a VPN (as others have posted) but you won't actually be able to buy them unless you have a non-EU delivery address.Clearly, they don't consider Aussies as worth protecting

author: Wallace Gasiewicz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 01:45:49 pm
content: I guess they figure if you can survive all the miserable snakes and big spiders, what is a little lead?

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 02:30:15 pm
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on January 08, 2023, 09:05:31 amSame here, now they all show up.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 03:02:46 pm
content: Perhaps just changing the country to US or Australia (or other non-fussy country) on the drop-down lets them show up. I would hazard a guess that if you don't already have that set it will try and figure it out from your IP, hence Aussies get it and we don't, but manually change it and Bob's your uncle.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2023, 04:51:12 pm
content: I didn't check the country setting yesterday, but following the link again my country showed up as US and changing it to Netherlands did shrink the list to 10. No idea still why they didn't show up yesterday

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 09, 2023, 12:13:23 am
content: Considering the market to which this is directed, I couldn't help but LOL at the first entry of the FAQ down the bottom.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 09, 2023, 03:36:11 am
content: Quote from: james_s on January 08, 2023, 09:10:27 amCommon to buy a spare bit of kit for production so you can rotate equipment in and out during calibration or maintenance.Also not uncommon to have a lab budget and hence a deeply discounted surplus unit might be very well received.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2023, 01:25:19 pm
content: Quote from: Smokey on January 08, 2023, 08:26:50 amSometimes your requirement is: Anything that can measure to 20GHz, to pass EMC directive.I kinda agree with you, that a new SA is going to provide more useful features, or decoding or real time capabilities, but often times you don't care about any of that, you just want a device that allows you fulfill a regulatory requirement.

author: Traceless
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2023, 02:43:28 pm
content: I was just looking at the DSO6012A and wonder does this DSO have some super nifty trick up its sleeve that I am missing? Otherwise I'm really confused about the price. More than 1600 bucks for a used 2 ch. 100 MHz DSO with only 90 days warranty and without accessories seems ridiculously overpriced.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2023, 03:29:33 pm
content: Quote from: Traceless on January 09, 2023, 02:43:28 pmNO!These days the price seems high.They have one benefit over the modern Keysight scopes, that is the FFT response. The 7000 Series scopes are based on these 6000 series, just with a bigger screen. And every time I need to do some FFT measurements, I prefer the 7000 over 3000x or even the 4000x scopes.But these days it does not make much sense to buy a 2 channel 6000 series scope at 100 MHz for $1,636

author: philwong5176
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 09, 2023, 05:43:28 pm
content: I asked for a quote, and then got the following reply from Keysight:From: Keysight-Used-Equipment-Portal <ebiz@keysight.com>Sent: Monday, January 09, 2023 12:16 PMTo: Phil Wong <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Cc: Keysight-Used-Equipment-Portal <ebiz@keysight.com>Subject: RE: Keysight Used Inquiry from xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - #W-OS-04427Sorry Phil – we are no longer able to sell to individuals – only company purchases possible.BrOliver

author: Greybeard
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2023, 08:10:35 pm
content: Quote from: Villain on January 08, 2023, 01:57:33 am+1

author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2023, 08:29:04 pm
content: Quote from: philwong5176 on January 09, 2023, 05:43:28 pmhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/keysight-officially-lost-the-plot-dont-buy-if-youre-a-hobbyist/Time to start that LLC!

author: Traceless
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2023, 09:48:11 pm
content: Quote from: Smokey on January 09, 2023, 08:29:04 pmTime to start buying Keithley or Siglent instead

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 10, 2023, 02:21:20 am
content: Quote from: philwong5176 on January 09, 2023, 05:43:28 pmThat sucks

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2023, 11:16:57 am
content: That wouldn't anything to do with the hacking, would it? Perhaps they figure that a company would just cough for features whereas it's 'hobby' users who'd rather spend time than money on acquiring those features. Thus take the hackers out of the chain and there are no more free lunches.

author: AVGresponding
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2023, 01:08:05 pm
content: It seems more likely that they simply want to avoid any liability under consumer laws, and restrict their support to those that pay a subscription for it. Does kind of feel like the final nail in the coffin of the HP era...

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2023, 02:11:53 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 10, 2023, 02:21:20 amWhy is everybody pretending to be surprised..We have been talking about this for more than a year now.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 10, 2023, 09:37:39 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on January 10, 2023, 02:11:53 pmI thought the previous talk was about new scopes?Now we are talking used scopes.Also, have Keysight removed their ebay store?

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2023, 09:42:31 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 10, 2023, 09:37:39 pmOh, you didn't pick up that..No wonder, it was dragged out long lamentation..It applies to anything Keysight sells.Their Ebay stores still exist but have nothing listed...

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2023, 10:00:32 pm
content: Quote from: PlainName on January 10, 2023, 11:16:57 amUnlikely anything to do with hacking, the thread is here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/keysight-officially-lost-the-plot-dont-buy-if-youre-a-hobbyist/

author: Kosmic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2023, 12:38:11 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 10, 2023, 09:37:39 pmTeledyne is doing the same thing for non US customers on their ebay store (https://www.ebay.com/str/teledynelecroy). I even provided a company # and it was not enough.I also had to provide a company name to keep my account on lecroy.com. Luckily it was accepted and my account is still working.