The Aneng AN8009 arrived. - Page 1
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author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2018, 07:43:11 am
content: What do you all think of it, as a cheap meter? I do not want to be hauling the Eevblog/Brymen 235 around.ThanksRuss

author: soubitos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2018, 08:25:52 am
content: I got ANENG AN8008 and am quite happy with it.. i had to replace the fuses with SMD ones at some point but besides the obvious and expected issues of such a cheap product, it does the job, and serves well....

author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2018, 03:36:27 pm
content: Quote from: soubitos on January 14, 2018, 08:25:52 amSMD = ?

author: jeroen79
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timestamp: January 14, 2018, 07:11:28 pm
content: Quote from: Russ on January 14, 2018, 03:36:27 pmSurface mounted device?

author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2018, 09:09:57 pm
content: Quote from: jeroen79 on January 14, 2018, 07:11:28 pmThey sure are tiny in size?Russ

author: soubitos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2018, 09:39:23 pm
content: They sure are

author: Electro Detective
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2018, 11:27:23 pm
content: Quote from: soubitos on January 14, 2018, 08:25:52 amGreat ideaassuming the SMD fuses can suppress the BANG! properlyand not become a flashover fast bridge to multimeter hellStill, there's lots of room left in there for spares, and toothpicks to pry them out------------------------Quote from: Russ on January 14, 2018, 07:43:11 amI'd feel more secure and confident lugging the heavier 235 around and get a free pump,you never know where DIY probing can take you sometimes

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 08:27:18 pm
content: Thanks for this post - I had no idea my meter had SMD fuses (I did not know they even existed). Now to order some

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 08:50:21 pm
content: Now I am confusedhttps://www.markhennessy.co.uk/budget_multimeters/aneng_an8008.htmShows 10mm fusesCould it be the posted picture with the name 8008 is really a 8009 ?I guess I have to open my "8" and order a "9" and some SMD fuses just for the hell of itWhat is the real scoop? I have a handicap - I have "fuseritis" this is a disorder where I blow too many fusesthanks

author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 09:14:04 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on January 15, 2018, 08:50:21 pmThey are the tiniest fuses that I’ve ever seen (Aneng 8009)Russ

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 09:24:31 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on January 15, 2018, 08:27:18 pmSMD fuses are common in the boards I use for work - they are certainly tiny but quite useful.One interesting tidbit: Littelfuse rates them up to 250VACwith an interrupt rating of 100A. However, if you use your meter up to 86VDC, it shows a rating of up to 10kA - same rating when compared to the multi-dollar Bussman fuses used by Fluke!http://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/electronics/datasheets/fuses/littelfuse_fuse_476_datasheet.pdf.pdf

author: Mark Hennessy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 09:32:21 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on January 15, 2018, 08:50:21 pmsoubitos modified his meter. They come with 10mm fuses from the factory.

author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 10:08:05 pm
content: 3.5 x 10mm in size. Cylindrical in shape.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2018, 10:43:19 pm
content: Quote from: Mark Hennessy on January 15, 2018, 09:32:21 pmThanks I was getting confused which is easy.I opened my 8008 and found the 3.6 x 10mm 10a fuse in a fuse holder. So I looked to buy some and the only reasonable ones come with leads. I ordered 100 for $7 and will cut the leads off. Other wise they are over a buck each. Regardless I am glad for this post to remind me to get extra fuses. I do low voltage stuff so I feel that I do not need ceramic fuses (the one dollar ones).Reading around forums, it seems I am not the only one to get confused.

author: soubitos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 12:23:02 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on January 15, 2018, 10:43:19 pmOh, i am sorry, i didnt think noting i did change the stock fuses with SMD ones... i did so because i needed to replace the 250mA fuse with.. something... and i did have the SMD fuses lying around.... when i noticed the SMD fuse HOLDERS would fit perfectly in the position of the stock fuse holders it was a very easy decision.I am very happy with the ANENG meter... i didnt like to order the same fuses it came with first because as said above, you can only find those with leads and second because you really dont know what those are good for right? While on the other hand, littlefuse parts are well known and good quality so why not? They come at a cost but they are not expensive either ....

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 01:03:27 am
content: Quote from: soubitos on January 16, 2018, 12:23:02 amThanks I am going to look into SMD fuses.

author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 02:16:19 am
content: I am still a bit unclear as to what SMD fuses are? I think that the OEM fuses are dirt cheap from Platt’s.Russ

author: IanB
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timestamp: January 16, 2018, 02:47:28 am
content: Quote from: Russ on January 16, 2018, 02:16:19 amThere is a picture in Reply #5:

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 02:55:08 am
content: I hope it has a better rotary selector switch than the landfill-grade one they used on the AN8008.

author: amspire
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timestamp: January 16, 2018, 03:24:08 am
content: I did a post about getting the genuine fuses along with some alternatives. Read this post:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/multimeter-aneng-an8002-failed-on-testing-continuity-please-help/msg1399341/#msg1399341and this follow-up post:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/multimeter-aneng-an8002-failed-on-testing-continuity-please-help/msg1399446/#msg1399446

author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 03:51:45 am
content: Quote from: IanB on January 16, 2018, 02:47:28 amMine in the Aneng 8009 are small and cylindrical in size.Russ

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 04:04:24 am
content: Quote from: Russ on January 16, 2018, 03:51:45 amYes, we know that. But the person who posted that picture replaced the original cylindrical fuse holders with SMD fuse holders and fuses.You asked what SMD fuses are. The picture above shows an SMD fuse in an SMD fuse holder. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. So why are you asking for so many words to explain what is so clearly shown in the picture?

author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 04:14:30 am
content: Quote from: IanB on January 16, 2018, 04:04:24 amWhat is the purpose of replacing originals with SMD’s?Thanks

author: IanB
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timestamp: January 16, 2018, 04:19:57 am
content: Quote from: Russ on January 16, 2018, 04:14:30 amSeeReply #14

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 04:51:56 am
content: Is the SMD fuse 1808 ?I like this idea

author: Electro Detective
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timestamp: January 16, 2018, 10:16:51 pm
content: Quote from: Russ on January 16, 2018, 04:14:30 amMost likely easier to source than the non mainstream"Honey, I shrunk the fuses"in that meterand maybe cheaper by the dozenNot sure how difficult it is to get the SMD fuseholders that member soubitos used, but you only have to buy them onceand a spare set for disasters

author: Russ
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timestamp: January 16, 2018, 10:32:27 pm
content: Interesting. I’m going to stop in at Platt Electric Supply tomorrow. I’ll post my findings.

author: floobydust
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 10:54:18 pm
content: Littelfuse01550900M Series- SMT Fuse Block For Nano2 Fuses.154 Seriesincludes a fuse too USD$2.55 ea.USD $2.16 each, and 476 10A fuse USD$2.36, 476 1A fuse USD$1.36total=$8.04If I blew both fuses, I'd probably toss the meter out

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2018, 11:10:51 pm
content: I don't see the point in going to the SMD fuses. The genuine Aneng-type fuses cost A$0.39 from Richmeter as long as you have bought a multimeter from them. If you really don't want a second multimeter, get the 10 for $1.50 fuses with leads that will be better then nothing. I have 20 replacement fuses for the multimeter that cost me $3 in total.

author: soubitos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 12:05:49 am
content: Quote from: floobydust on January 16, 2018, 10:54:18 pmI got 20x250mA & 20x10A fuses for something close to 5$.....SMD fuse holders went another couple dollars tops...So, i can blose both fuses 20 times before i toss the meter!Quote from: amspire on January 16, 2018, 11:10:51 pmI am 100% sure the fuses with leads are not same quality as the SMD fuses are. I dont have any, and i had a very hard time finding at least one to replace the blown 250mA fuse in my ANENG meter. Richmeter has nothing to do with my ANENG so the $0.39 per fuse from them does not apply to me anyway.Then i had 1. smd fuse holders and they happened to fit perfectly 2. i had several fuses lying around (from motherboards and routers mostly i think) and i ordered 20+20 for something over 5$ which i am sure it is a very good price for any kind of fuse to go in a multimeter...

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 12:25:11 am
content: Quote from: soubitos on January 17, 2018, 12:05:49 amBoth Aneng and Richmeter are just selling rebranded ZOTEK multimeters. Aneng probably make no multimeters at all. Except for the printing on the front, a ZOTEK ZT101 is a Richmeter RM101 which is a Aneng AN8001. The new Aneng AN8009 is the Richmeter RM111, and the ZOTEK ZT111 and the ZOYI ZT111 and the URXTRAL ZT111.Definitely, a geniune Richmeter fuse is a genuine Aneng fuse.About the quality, I do not see it as a big worry. I have been using multimeters for many decades and I am yet to destroy any multimeter by putting a current range across the mains. If I make a mistake and my $20 multimeter does not survive, I will buy another one. The fuse just gives some extra protection. Instead of the 600mA fuse, I just got 1A. It may be too high to protect the multimeter, but it will hopefully break the circuit before the meter bursts into flames.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 01:41:08 am
content: This is my new favourite name for a rebranded ZOTEK/Aneng multimeter:The DKM HAHAHA ZT100 - an Aneng AN8000 meter

author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 01:50:30 am
content: My newest meter.

author: WaveyDipole
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 06:30:45 pm
content: Some technical details and photos here:http://lygte-info.dk/review/DMMAnengAN8009%20UK.htmlLooks like it is 'missing some of the mA ranges' which I believe was the compromise made on the 8008 in order to get a µA range in. The square wave output has been replaced with a Non Contact Voltage (NCV) detector.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 09:37:46 pm
content: Quote from: WaveyDipole on January 17, 2018, 06:30:45 pmThat is why I have picked 2 of this family of meters. I got the AN8001 on sale for abut US$12 and the AN8008 on sale for about US$15 (hasn't arrived yet). The AN8001 is the one I would actually use most with its more conventional current ranges. Most of the time, a 6200 count meter is plenty and I don't usually need 1uV resolution. I am often measuring supply currents in the mA region.The AN8009 is a better meter then the AN8008 and the combination of AN8002 + AN8009 is better then my combo but at a significantly higher price - at least based on the prices I have seen.

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 09:44:24 pm
content: Quote from: amspire on January 17, 2018, 09:37:46 pmHow much higher would it have been? I paid $18.88 USD for my AN8008 a few month ago and, I think, $19.99 USD for the AN8009 on Black Friday. That is about $12 USD more, but I on't think it actually breaks the bank.

author: Russ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 09:57:57 pm
content: I paid about $24.00 for the Aneng 8009 through Banggood.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 10:03:41 pm
content: Quote from: GreyWoolfe on January 18, 2018, 09:44:24 pmYou got a very good deal. The standard price of an AN8009 to Australia is around the A$30 to A$34 mark. That is around the same price I paid for the AN8001 + AN8008. This was before Black Friday and at the time, there were no good AN8009 deals.Right now, the AN8008 is about the same price as the AN8009 so I would definitely buy the AN8009 - if I needed another meter. I don't see the point of the silly square wave generator in a multimeter, and the NCV addition in the AN8009 is definitely useful.