Beware of eBay seller bestcomputerparts2010 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 02:04:58 pm
content: I have bought them this item: "New WD 2.5" 250GB WD2500BEVE 5400 8M PATA IDE HDD Hard Disk Drive", $99.99.I received it DOA, after a few emails them ask me to send the HDD back. I did, registered and with tracking number (another $20). Upon receive it they agree about the HDD being defective and a new unit will suppodsely being sent to me. Never arrived.After near three months of waiting, and many emails without answer from them, I sent a new email and their answer: "Sorry."They will no ship the HDD to me not make a refund.So, beware, bestcomputerparts2010 are not good sellers. Never buy anything from them if you want no problems.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 02:30:33 pm
content: 99$ for a 250gig drive.? You are mad !99$ gets you 3 terabyte these days ...

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 02:33:39 pm
content: It's a PATA...

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 02:34:18 pm
content: Quote from: EdoNork on August 01, 2013, 02:33:39 pmMore fool you for trying to keep an antiquated machine going.

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 02:39:29 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on August 01, 2013, 02:34:18 pmThis forum is full of fools then...

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 02:57:03 pm
content: There is absolutely nothing wrong with PATA as a system ! Just because the latest and greatest is SATA, version whatever, it does not make peoples PATA based computers 'crap'. I inwardly laugh when people complain that their latest and greatest laptop can't support the super expensive hardware and software that they have been using reliably with an older generation PC. A computer upgrade ends up costing them a small fortune. I get really narked when people get abusive or dismissive about others older technology IT...is snobbery pure and simple. If the tool suits the task, use it. JeeezI own many computers ranging from several Dell 3500 PII laptops , 6 Dell X300 M1.4's and 3 Dell P4 3GHz desktops. All have uses in my lab. My latest is an all in one Dell ONE running an i5 so I am not against progress, just snobbery at other peoples expense.I am sorry to hear that EdoNork has suffered a deal gone bad. May I suggest that you not give up and that you continue to write to the company and also report them to your credit card company, PayPal, ebay ....whoever was involved in the deal. Some companies just hope you will go away....don't ....ask them again fro either a hard disk or refund and state that their actions to date appear unjust. If you get no joy, try asking for a credit so that you can buy parts to the value of your HDD. Its not perfect but its better than nothing. They may not have any PATA drives left so are unable to provide one to you.I hope it works out for you.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 03:02:20 pm
content: Quote from: Aurora on August 01, 2013, 02:57:03 pmThere's lots wrong, actually, but ignoring that, there's the major problem thatPATA drives aren't produced any more. Throwing unreasonable sums of money at wear items which are no longer manufactured is foolish.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 03:05:36 pm
content: QuoteOn the whole good advice - however you generally have to contact credit card companies within 3 months of the transaction and sooner for ebay or paypal.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 03:09:18 pm
content: You can buy SATA to PATA adapters, but 2.5" may be for a laptop so could be hard to fit in.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bi-Directional-IDE-PATA-to-SATA-Adapter-with-Cables-/380427124446?pt=UK_Computing_Drive_Cables_Adapters&hash=item5893393ede

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 03:11:24 pm
content: Dealing with China seller the delivery time is against the buyer, eBay, Paypal, etc, time constrains aren't enought.

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 03:12:04 pm
content: Quote from: tom66 on August 01, 2013, 03:09:18 pmYep, it's a laptop, not enought space to fit an adaptor

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 03:15:51 pm
content: QuoteI agree andsomevendors probably take advantage.However you need to be aware of the deadlines and make sure you don't miss them. Ebay have a 6 week deadline and you need to be quite firm with sellers that youwillfile a claim if the item has not arrived by 5 weeks (which should be enough time for a small item, even from China).

author: ben7
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 03:46:05 pm
content: Another forum I am a member of, is dedicated to the capacitor plague.One guy had bad capacitors on his motherboard. He replaced them with nichicon capacitors and all was well. Er, I meant all was well for a few months... he came back and said the capacitors are bad again! We bugged him to take a picture, and guess what ... he bought his 'nichicon' capacitors on ebay ... they were fake, one hung low cheapy counterfeits! We quickly scoffed at him and showed him where to get REAL nichicon capacitors.Case in point: NEVER buy from ebay, there is too much fake/dangerous stuff being sold by too many cheeky 'top-rated' sellers.-Ben

author: ErikTheNorwegian
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 06:58:04 pm
content: Why not try to help him ghet hies money or a new disk.If we could have their E-mail adress, we all could send this seller a e-mail stating that hies behavior and way of doing business is bad..

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 07:25:12 pm
content: Pity it is a laptop, I have a few 80G PATA drives around, and even a 4.3G Seagate one. One Deathstar though, but it did work the last time I powered it up.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 07:58:30 pm
content: I should have some PATA 2.5" laptop drives somewhere doing nothing*, but the question is what is the minimum capacity you need?*doing nothing like not in use, not broken

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 08:26:41 pm
content: Quote from: EdoNork on August 01, 2013, 02:04:58 pmlesson... dont treat ebay or any online shop as too holy. buy local! (if available) that item you bought,is even available in our among the most remote'st place on earth here.rethinking... i admit PATA is a rare earth element by todays standard.Quote from: EdoNork on August 01, 2013, 02:39:29 pmyou either...1) too young to realize the origin of PATA2) specifically talking about laptop requirementeither case, my statement at the topmost still holds, and esp free_electron's statement far above.Quote from: grumpydoc on August 01, 2013, 03:15:51 pmits 3 months lapsed so forget it.Quotelook at the price, and seller's origin. thats enough to tell.rule #1) there is no such thing as "too good to be true"rule #2) you get what you pay.but in this OP case, rule #2 is somewhat deviated.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 08:55:42 pm
content: You pay for what you get. Paying more doesn't necessarily mean getting more and not getting scammed, however.

author: M. András
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 09:01:25 pm
content: you should have filed a claim on ebay and paypal after you sent it back and didnt recive anything back

author: Phaedrus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 12:35:06 am
content: Quote from: alm on August 01, 2013, 08:55:42 pmYou don't get what you don't pay for.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 03:26:06 am
content: If this is going in a laptop you might want to consider an SSD or CF-card + adapter.PATA drives are probably going to be around for a long time, if nothing other than the fact that a lot of industrial/embedded equipment still uses them.

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 06:29:36 am
content: Quote from: ErikTheNorwegian on August 01, 2013, 06:58:04 pmThank you Erik, but I tyhink that seller will pass on this.

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 06:30:53 am
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on August 01, 2013, 07:58:30 pmThank you PA0PBZ, but I managed to buy one locally, a 120GB one.

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 06:35:18 am
content: Quote from: M. András on August 01, 2013, 09:01:25 pmYeah, I should have open a dispute when I sent it. But It looked like that the seller was acting right. And shipment to China needs some time, too much time.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 07:23:20 am
content: Quote from: amyk on August 02, 2013, 03:26:06 amnope. Pata is disappearing. Only the oldest drive platforms still employ them. The next platform 'refresh cycle' has started. Which means the oldest platform will disappear soon .. Game over for pata.There is no more dev on pata platform. They top out at roughly 300 gig. There were larger ones but those have already been discontinued.There is not a single motherboard that employs pata anymore. The newer chipsets dont even have pata. It needs to go through the reduced signal count legacy interface.. And that makes it slow...I overlooked the fact that ts was looking for a laptop drive...Try to get a WD scorpio 250. They should go for about 50$ in oem new.

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 02:07:10 pm
content: Always file a paypal claim if it doesn't arrive within the 45 day period (or whatever it is now). If you get sent the wrong thing (or there are any other issues ie DOA), you can ask the seller directly, but in any case, make sure you still open a dispute. The dispute can stay open as long as is necessary, if both parties communicate the whole time. If they don't respond after so many days, or you don't, Paypal automatically assumes the dispute is finalised (in favor of who DID respond last).Someone from the USA sent me the wrong item (I/O shield for a server board). It was useless to me, and I asked for the correct one to be sent. Told me a new one had been sent, never arrived. Asked again, said he has sent yet another and it is costing him money etc etc (idiot is the one who sent the wrong thing). Should have clued in earlier but it was too late. Now I know what to do to make sure it gets resolvedI sell quite a bit on ebay, and most buyers are polite. I do my best to fix things when they go wrong, and I tell people up front, if it makes them feel more comfortable, lodge a paypal claim a few days before the last day if they really want. I'd rather not have it on my paypal record though, and things get fixed asap.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 07:05:27 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on August 01, 2013, 03:15:51 pmNonsense. If an item is not there before the 'item not received' claim period is expired I open a claim. That still gives a couple of weeks for the item to arrive before Ebay/Paypal take action.