Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month) - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 07:10:16 am
content: Hi everyone, I'm very excited to finally announceScope Month 2018Wave 2018!Thanks to the overwhelmingly positive response from this group and other engineers like you, we're expanding Scope Month to cover more than just Oscilloscopes. And, if we're all being honest with each other, a month is pretty long for an event like this. So, we're condensing the event into a 2-ish week period - March 1-16.So, the name obviously had to change. Love it or hate it, I've personally become quite fond of the name.And, of course there's a stellar daily giveaway worth over $30k USD. Winners will get to choose between one of two prize options:1. Bench bundle – 500 MHz MSOX3054T, 33622A waveform generator, E36313A 3x output power supply, U1282A handheld, 34470A DMM2. RF Bundle – N9918A 26.5 GHz FieldFox with both VNA and Spec An options + N7555A ECal kitWe've also put together some new eBooks and tips plus a couple other surprises for you.Register athttps://www.wavekeysight.com/(wave.keysight.com also redirects to the above URL)We'll live kick off on 1-Mar on the Keysight Labs YouTube channel (formerly "Keysight Oscilloscopes").You can get one entry between now and 28-February, and one entry per day during the event. Bonus entries for social media stuff as outlined on the confirmation page.I'm happy to field questions here, so ask away. But, I can't answer tax or eligibility questions - I'm not a legal or tax expert and cannot offer advice in those areas.I will say that I fight hard to include as many people & countries as possible, but an event of this magnitude will inevitably run into local roadblocks.I'm super excited for this March, good luck to everyone!

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 07:18:00 am
content: Mandatory info which I believe lots of people will be interested, cut copied & pasted from the TC page.At least this will save people from the excluded countries a few mouse clicks.This promotion is limited to specific countries and is only open to entrants aged 18 years or older at the time of submission who are legal residents of, and physically located within, Austria, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Chile, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Japan, Korea Republic of, Poland, South Africa, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom, United States (excluding Florida, New York, and Rhode Island), and Venezuela.Edit : Just curious why Venezuela is included, I thought as now, the people there are still fighting for food ?

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 07:24:50 am
content: Just curious why Florida, NewYork, and Rhode Island have been excluded : I thought that people there are NOT fighting for food ?

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 07:45:13 am
content: What a great opportunity again.Thank you!

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 11:31:17 am
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on January 17, 2018, 07:10:16 amPerhaps an answer to the eligibility thing is to give the option to trade part of the prize for a return flight to collect in person

author: sixtimesseven
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 12:42:43 pm
content: Wow so great. Thanks for posting it here!Too bad thought that it is (again) a suscribe and win thing.I liked the concept you used for "power up my bench" much more. Since you have to put some effort in it limits the number of people to enter and would allow you to select people who actually need / use / apprechiate your devices instead of selling them off as quickly as possible...

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 05:52:30 pm
content: And again not allowed to participate , and no clue why but probably Keysight does not want to sell equipment in this country either

author: radar_macgyver
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 06:06:19 pm
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on January 17, 2018, 07:10:16 amHummana hummana hummana....

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 06:26:49 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on January 17, 2018, 05:52:30 pmExclusions like this are usually due to the country's laws on lotteries etc.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 06:39:34 pm
content: I just found this summary on laws surrounding prize draws around the worldhttps://www.dlapiperintelligence.com/prizepromotions/insight/index.html?t=prize-drawsEven where allowed, there can be awkward ( for someone outside the country) requirements for registration, permits etc.e.g. for Italy :QuoteAustralia (NSW) :QuoteI wonder if Dave got a permit for his giveaways...?There may also be issues with agreements with local distributors, and of course general market targetting.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 07:44:45 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 17, 2018, 06:26:49 pmAFAIK in our country the law is you only need a permit to hold a lottery when the participants need to pay for a ticket or pay in order to participate. This is and can be seen as a form of gambling, game of chance.In that sense this is not a lottery, it is a giveaway. Germany has the same laws for paid lotteries. For each won euro a german citizin should pay 25% lotterytax. So not much difference.A large international company can think of many different forms to hold these draws, such as holding a beta testing program, supporting universities etc.But I stop, I don't want to put more negative energy into this topic which is supposed to be a positive thing and at the end will make some lucky people very happy.Quote

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 08:57:13 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on January 17, 2018, 07:44:45 pmAccording to the above site, for NL under "other local requirements" :QuoteBoth of those restrictions would preclude the Keysight draw in its current form.I think one problem is that most of these laws will date from before the Internet, and worldwide competitions were a thing, so probably don't consider how to deal with competitions based outside the country but availailable to people within it

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 17, 2018, 09:28:44 pm
content: A couple things:1.Quote from: sixtimesseven on January 17, 2018, 12:42:43 pmWe will be doing the "Test to Impress" contest again, so there WILL be a merit-based aspect to this event. We like the idea of a sweepstakes but also want to look out for people that have a lot of potential merit as well. If I recall correctly, the grand prize is a bundle of their choice, and a few runner up prizes are 1000 X-Series. So, both high end and lower end gear as prizes this time around.Running events like this Australia a nightmare, but they are included in the South Asia Pacific event. My understanding is that contests are easier than sweepstakes.Without going into specifics about certain countries, issues can include:Total prize value too big/smallIndividual prize value too big/smallCountry/state requires a large cash payment or bond relative to prize sizeSweepstakes/contest must originate from local countrySweepstakes (random draw) vs. Contests (merit-based) discrepancies

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 02:21:17 am
content: Ahhhh...sameprocedurediscussion as every year!I hopefor Keysight: No disturbances during the sweepstakes (like last year).for Germany: No second "Sebastian".for everyone: Good luck!for me: To win a "Dream Bench"...

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 03:04:53 am
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on January 17, 2018, 07:10:16 amI, for one, welcome our new Wave overlords...right onto my bench.Whatever it's called, thanks to Keysight for bringing it back with even more goodies.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 03:12:52 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on January 17, 2018, 07:18:00 amBecause people at Keysight are busy doing the right things and do not have time to attend brainwashing sessions.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 12:28:25 pm
content: Not elegible, againQuote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 17, 2018, 11:31:17 ami like this ideaGood luck to all

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 01:32:06 pm
content: Well, I've put my name down.I did not see what prizes are available and how they are selected/awarded. The sort of info that is expressly detailed in the T's & C's.Did I miss this?The RF bundle is nice - but the bench bundle would get better use in my workshop.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 01:43:19 pm
content: MSOX3054T Oscilloscope, mixed signal, 4+16 channel, 500MHz 1DSOXT3APPBNDL SW application bundle license for 3000 XT-Series 133622A 33600A Series Waveform generator, 120 MHz, 2-channel 134470A (34465) Digital multimeter, 7 1/2 digit, True volt DMM 1E36313A DC power supply, triple-output, 6 V, 10 A and 2 x 25 V, 2 A, 160 W: LAN, USB 1U1282A True RMS 60000 Count Handheld DMM 1Wow, this is a serious bundle.Belgium is included in the Wave 2018 - Test to Impress Contest.You took feedback, and made multiple ways to get a price, basically allowing more countries to enter. Huge respect.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 02:58:59 pm
content: I'm going to try this again... I would sell my grandmother for 4 ch scope!There were rumors that it was previously game-able by the creation of multiple email addresses.... hope it will be a level playing field this year.

author: kaz911
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 03:18:09 pm
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on January 18, 2018, 02:58:59 pmHow old is your grandmother - and can she cook?(checking for scopes around the house.......)

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 03:49:06 pm
content: Thanks for the heads up, Daniel. On the list again.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 06:38:52 pm
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on January 18, 2018, 02:58:59 pmI personally vet each of the winners to avoid this as much as possible, we did do a few redraws last year because the drawn winner consistently entered each day with multiple e-mails. I reserve the right to make that judgement call, so don't panic if it happens once or twice. It's usually pretty obvious when someone is trying to game the system.

author: iainwhite
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 07:32:59 pm
content: Quote from: kripton2035 on January 17, 2018, 07:24:50 amhttp://www.kleinmoynihan.com/sweepstakes-registration-and-bonding-requirements/

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 10:37:50 pm
content: I'm in and deserve to win.Where do I find more information about the quiz thing mentioned on the entry page and what is Keysights policy in regards to bribery and corruption for this years event, I can pay cash on the side if need be.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 18, 2018, 11:46:25 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on January 18, 2018, 10:37:50 pmI believe bribes need to be in the five-figure region to be entertained ... and you put them through the sales department. As I understand it, such payments are so effective, that if you get the amount right, the sales department will even ship the products to you outside the timeframes mentioned in the promotion.(but don't tell anyone)

author: jasonbrent
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2018, 02:56:49 am
content: I look forward to winning so I can stop (*ahem, pause..*) spending money on one hobby for a while.:-)Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 19, 2018, 03:53:39 am
content: You silly, twisted boy....You KNOW it's just big step further down the rabbit hole....

author: Deridex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2018, 01:00:17 pm
content: Thanks Daniel,I'm looking forward to the event.Just one question (i hope i don't look greedy): Could you please tell us, what options are installed? thanks

author: nihtila
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2018, 01:10:15 pm
content: Quote from: Deridex on January 19, 2018, 01:00:17 pmMSOX3054T Oscilloscope, mixed signal, 4+16 channel, 500MHz 1DSOXT3APPBNDL SW application bundle license for 3000 XT-Series 133622A 33600A Series Waveform generator, 120 MHz, 2-channel 134470A (34465) Digital multimeter, 7 1/2 digit, Truevolt DMM 1E36313A DC power supply, triple-output, 6 V, 10 A and 2 x 25 V, 2 A, 160 W: LAN, USB 1U1282A True RMS 60000 Count Handheld DMM 1N9918A 26.5 GHz FieldFox Microwave Analyzer 1N9918A-211 Vector network analyzer full 2-port S-parameters 1N9918A-233 Spectrum analyzer 1N7555A ECal Module DC to 26.5 GHz, 2-port 1

author: Deridex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 19, 2018, 01:20:09 pm
content: Ah thanks. Where did you get that info ?Edit: Nevermind ... found it.

author: nickds1
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2018, 10:22:13 am
content: Really great of Keysight to do this - entered last year with no luck, but, hey, better odds than the national lotteryBeen refreshing the home workshop slowly as funds allow - was considering the E36311A anyways, but the E36313A was just out-of-budget...Here's hoping !

author: Terrius
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2018, 10:30:03 pm
content: Out of curiosity, I notice that the "company" field is required this year (maybe it was last year as well). Does that mean amateurs/hobbyists shouldn't apply for this particular contest, or can we just make up a fake company name? I suppose I wonder if this one is more focused towards proper EE folks rather than us normal plebs.Either way this contest looks amazing, that bench of gear literally made my jaw drop!

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 23, 2018, 12:51:14 am
content: I took my lead from a recent purchase from TI. They had a company name field requirement - but gave an alternative of "Independent Designer".So, that's what I used for the Keysight promo.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2018, 01:34:33 am
content: "Independent Designer" sounds good. Otherwise, the good old "Self" will probably work.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 10:20:08 am
content: Forgive me for asking, but why are there so many excluded countries in this contest, while the country of origin doesn't seem to be an issue with the power supply contest?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 12:05:00 pm
content: There could be several reasons from the total value of the prize pool to the fact that the power supply competition has no element of chance in it. Entries are judged on their merit.This makes ahugedifference in a lot of situations.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 12:12:16 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on January 26, 2018, 12:05:00 pmI know. That's why a lot of radio stations ask you to answer a trivial question. Considering the disppoinment of many people about being excluded in the Scope Month, or Wave, it seems logical to look for a similar way of avoiding these kinds of limitations. Why exclude so many people when it's quite possible to include almost all?Keysight has indicated very clearly that it tries hard to include as many people as possible, which I both believe and applaud.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 12:21:15 pm
content: Radio station prizes are in a slightly different league to the sort of prize pool Keysight is offering - and the authorities are probably going to take a much more serious assessment of the so-called competition of "skill".With the power supply competition, the skill is fairly evident - and open for public scrutiny, so any half-baked skills requirements are going to be called out by the participants - and the authorities will have a reasonably clear course of action. So the trivial question approach is not going to fly.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 12:41:12 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on January 26, 2018, 12:21:15 pmIt's not a matter of scale or dodging scrutiny. Something requires skill, or it doesn't. Legal precedences have long been set, so it isn't hard to devise something that falls well into the right category, without being overly challenging or hard.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 02:01:28 pm
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on January 26, 2018, 12:41:12 pmYou are being far too simplistic. That is a black and white statement in a very grey world.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 02:06:32 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on January 26, 2018, 02:01:28 pmI addressed that in the rest of my comment. A rich history of legal cases shows a fairly well defined boundary between what qualifies as requiring skill and what doesn't. The vast expanse of grey has been neatly sorted into black and white by the courts. It really shouldn't be much of a challenge to create a contest that's properly on the right side of the boundary.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 02:08:11 pm
content: Which is what Keysight will have done.I'd put money on that.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2018, 02:10:31 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on January 26, 2018, 02:08:11 pmAs it's not currently a contest, it doesn't seem they have.

author: Deridex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2018, 04:50:55 pm
content: One (in my Sight important) question: Will the stuff be send from Keysight directly or via a local distributor ?The huge value of the stuff would make a quite big customs-payment as far i know.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 03, 2018, 11:11:57 pm
content: This was a question asked many times in last year's Scope Month.As far as I know, there wasn't any issue with that. I think the only impact was the "income" assessment that USA winners have had to bear.I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2018, 01:37:39 am
content: You can check out the thread from last year's Scope Month. Posts from people who received their prizes begin approximately on this page:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/scope-month-2017-megathread/275/. See if a winner in your location posted their experience. This year may be similar unless there were changes to laws, etc. in your location.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 06, 2018, 12:28:27 am
content: The gear will be fulfilled directly through Keysight, but my understanding is that it will happen in a way that doesn't slap you with a bunch of customs fees/import tariffs. To my knowledge, this hasn't been an issue for people.There may or may not be tax implications based on your country/state/county/shire of residence. If you win and are concerned about it, please talk to a local tax expert.

author: PixieDust
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2018, 02:33:51 am
content: Australia is not included. I guess import taxes are too high in Australia.

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2018, 07:45:42 pm
content: Sorry. Maybe it just be only in my case, but...I`ve just receivedthreeinvitings from Keysight to their wavekeysight livefeed.I registered to the sweepstake only one time, with a sole eMail adress.(At the scopemonth´s I had different adresses.)Something seems to went wrong. Failure from my side? Somehow I am multiple registered?Or got everyone this invitation three times?See yourself:

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2018, 12:24:02 am
content: They're three different livestreams on three different dates.

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2018, 08:11:24 pm
content: ... as you say it...

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2018, 08:49:04 pm
content: Quote from: ProBang2 on February 17, 2018, 07:45:42 pmWhat is wrong with getting invited one time each to three different events?Did you only want to be invited to one event?I don't get it!

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2018, 11:40:47 pm
content: Quote from: ProBang2 on February 18, 2018, 08:11:24 pmYeah, it happens.

author: sixtimesseven
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2018, 11:41:38 am
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on January 17, 2018, 09:28:44 pmThank you for your explanation.It didn't enter my mind that this might be for taxation and regulatory reasons. Running this contest internationally must be a nightmare!

author: TheDane
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2018, 09:46:07 am
content: It's almost March 1'st.- and who wouldn't want the chance to win some cool Keysight equipment?Count me in. Thanks DanielBogdanoff, and also to the rest of the Keysight family.I have read the terms and conditions, and I have a quick question regarding the Wave 2018 - Test to Impress Contest Official Rules:Submission must be a valid link to a video hosted on YouTube, youku, or vimeo.I am not on facebook, so I might have missed the entry posting there.(Visiting the social media via the social media buttons worked, but I was quickly greeted with pop-up's telling me to join - no thanks! I'm on YouTube, and this great forum)Back to my question, where to post the link to the video?I could do it here, so here it is:https://youtu.be/RlZK-r6YsF0I will soon be making my first topic in the Open Sourced Hardware, and I hope the thread will see some repliesThanks!Egon

author: Anks
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2018, 09:34:34 pm
content: How would I be able to tell if I registered

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 28, 2018, 09:53:38 pm
content: @TheDane,There will be a submission form for the Test to Impress contest from the Wave web page starting 1-Mar.Thanks!

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 28, 2018, 09:54:50 pm
content: @Anks, you should have received a confirmation e-mail (assuming you checked the box?). You can also just try again, if it went through the registration properly first time it won't let you do it a gain.

author: bsudbrink
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2018, 10:14:43 pm
content: Hi Daniel,Cute little videoLoved the hi tech special effects!

author: FrankE
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2018, 05:14:21 pm
content: I registered a week ago.Is that entry for every draw?Is the multiple choice "Daily Challenge" question the entry for each day?orDoes one fill in the registration form again for daily entry?I don't want to risk registering twice and invalidating my entry if the registration form is not for the daily entry.

author: Fred27
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 01, 2018, 05:47:41 pm
content: Congratulation to the first winner - Drew. I wonder how many eevblog member winners we will get this year. Lots, I hope.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2018, 06:27:35 pm
content: Quote from: FrankE on March 01, 2018, 05:14:21 pmThis isn't quite clear to me either.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2018, 06:32:54 pm
content: Everyone got one entry opportunity prior to commencement of Wave. That entry is valid for the duration of the event.Each day during Wave, everyone gets one entry opportunity by filling in and submitting the form. You do that once a day. All of these entries are in the pot for all subsequent random draws during the event. Thus, you don't lose out if you don't enter every day, however your odds decrease relative to those who do enter everyday.

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2018, 10:45:44 pm
content: First things first: Congratulations to Drew!Have much fun with your "new toys".And now to something completly different:Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on February 28, 2018, 09:54:50 pmYes, I have checked the box. No, I havn´t received a confirmation mail. And yes, I´ve looked at the spam and deleted folder also. The site seems to work properly. At least the next try is only possible tomorrow.What now??? I am in the sweepstake, even without a confirmation mail? Or am I been fooled by the website?Someone else without confirmation?

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 12:16:41 am
content: Visit wave.keysight.com again. When I entered, I checked the confirmation email box and received no confirmation. However, going to the entry page, even on a different device, indicated that I had entered.

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 04:33:05 am
content: We should ask Drew, if he has gotten a confirmation mail...

author: tmaiman89
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 06:38:31 am
content: Hi Daniel. I got a trivial question. One entry per day means registering the same email or different email for each day is allowed?

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 07:47:43 am
content: Don't use a lot of different email addresses, it may look like you're trying to stuff extra entries. One entry per day from the same address is sufficient.

author: MrWizerd
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 09:03:16 am
content: I love these giveaways its so cool because for some of us these scopes are so far out of our price range. I think I have two entries, my other entry is my 40th post, so I am actually at 9 shy after this post... oh wellKeep it coming Dave!

author: xani
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 09:59:11 am
content: It is kinda suprising that they decided to have less but higher-budget rewards tbh, you'd think they'd want to give "the keysight experience" to as many people as possible. After all, more people = more chance to get to someone praising your gear in future.But damn, those bundles will make someone a very happy camper

author: mswhin63
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 11:56:55 am
content: I would really like to replace my OWON

author: lukaq
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 12:12:49 pm
content: with MSOX3054T, could you see 868MHz signal, to find it's more precise carrier freq.?

author: Taucher
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 01:18:12 pm
content: Ok, I'm NOT participating this timeI'm sure you guys know that there are laws/rules against unreasonable collection of personal information (EU and most other countries).How about making most of those fields non-mandatory?I'm not a lawyer, but I cannot grant/"assign" you all Intellectual Property rights including copyrights in anunconditionalmanner to my address or phone number - that's not something that I own or that is in my sole posession.Want to do something really good? ...double up on Dave's givewayor his personal pick (he accidently mislabled the Keysight DSOX1102G scope as 4CH model... so why not make it a 4CH?)

author: dentaku
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 03:14:10 pm
content: While it IS nice that they gave away so much stuff last year I'm sure it was a ridiculous amount of work for Daniel, Josh etc. to have to deal with considering the laws in all the different countries and just the huge number of winners.Quote from: xani on March 02, 2018, 09:59:11 am

author: Robaroni
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 03:40:46 pm
content: Scopilation! I'm in.

author: Jono427
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 03:53:09 pm
content: I will add the my first entry in February I did get a confirmation email. Yesterday's I did not get one. Today when I went back it remembered me and I did not have to re-enter my information, just click a button and I did get a confirmation today.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 04:57:33 pm
content: Quote from: Taucher on March 02, 2018, 01:18:12 pmSo, the IP/patent/copyright phrase essentially keeps people from putting info they own into the submission field and then suing us for having that in our database. Apparently that's a thing people do... I know it's a scary phrase, but I talked to the lawyers about this and it's only about the submission stuff and not an overarching statement/contract.

author: vgamesx2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:00:57 pm
content: I already said it on youtube but I figure why not say here too, as awesome as that bundle is, I'd actually much rather get fewer things because I'd prefer to see more winners, I mean why not give away three times as many things and simply let a winner choose any two items on that list instead of just having a scope/RF bundle?Certainly isn't a big deal or anything but I think I liked scope month better or at least it gave the impression that you actually had a chance to win since there were so many of them being given away.

author: imidis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:03:42 pm
content: Quote from: Jono427 on March 02, 2018, 03:53:09 pmI didn't get a confirmation yesterday either, glad it wasn't just me!

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:04:43 pm
content: Quote from: vgamesx2 on March 02, 2018, 05:00:57 pmI tend to not agree. If I win, I want to win. Cutting up the cake in so many pieces that they become mundane isn't making something like this better, and the chances to win are minimal either way.

author: TheDane
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:06:44 pm
content: Quote from: bitseeker on March 01, 2018, 06:32:54 pmYou got your daily entry!- gotten by pressing the button onhttps://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/Then there's the 'Enter Keysight's Test to Impress Video Contest!' onhttps://www.wavekeysight.com/test-to-impress/I applied there again today. I added links&info yesterday. I hope this won't be an issue, or- technically I am entering twice(I might not be able to come up with new ideas to add to the project - however a great idea popped into my head, possibly making it capable of testing/determining Vlosses on bad defective high voltage capacitors, so it's kind of an update)

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:12:51 pm
content: @TheDane, a 2x entry into the Test to Impress is no problem.Regarding the prizes, we'll probably keep mixing it up. We get a lot of feedback both ways (value/volume)

author: FrankE
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:17:47 pm
content: The daily extra bonus entry is a button, not filling in the form again. I hope I haven't invalidated my entry.Mick or Nick has some snazzy shirts.

author: Ranayna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:19:39 pm
content: Is answering the question a separate entry? Yesterday i answered the question, but missed the button in the right column completlyToday i did both, answered the question, and then i saw the button, clicked it, and immediatly got a email confirmation for my entry.

author: vgamesx2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:26:12 pm
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 02, 2018, 05:04:43 pmI don't see it as "Well, there was basically zero chance of winning anyway so it doesn't matter unless I get everything" I see it as, you have one chance to win a car vs 30 chances to get free insurance for a year, now yes the chances are still low and the other sounds way better to get, but you still have 30 one in a million chances compared to just one chance and that's it, which is still much better odds of actually getting something out of it and getting anything is better than nothing right..? Well, that plus the scope is the main thing I care about anyway so...

author: TheDane
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:28:49 pm
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on March 02, 2018, 05:12:51 pmThanks - so just to be 100% clear, one entry on the Test to Impress should be enough during the contest from now on, and I do not need to enter 'there' anymore.- answering the landing question, and doing the daily button is

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 05:43:28 pm
content: Quote from: imidis on March 02, 2018, 05:03:42 pmI did not get a confirmation neither yesterday nor today. Not sure what is going on.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 06:36:59 pm
content: Quote from: TheDane on March 02, 2018, 05:28:49 pmYes, for Test to Impress a single entry is sufficient. For the sweepstakes, you can one per day using the button.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 06:38:55 pm
content: Quote from: TheDane on March 02, 2018, 05:06:44 pmDepends if you're entering on the same device and you still have the cookie. If not, then you're presented with the entry form again.

author: Chipguy
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 06:42:39 pm
content: Well, count me in. Gonna try my luck!

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 06:46:11 pm
content: You have to sign up at wave.keysight.com. Posting in this thread won't win you anything.

author: Kassirigor@gmail.com
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 08:04:50 pm
content: Hello guys. Should I make any another things to get a chance to win anything?

author: CNe7532294
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2018, 09:18:32 pm
content: This was already answered during the live event (live text box chat) but I might as well post here too. I believe I saw the FMV (Fair Market Value) total ~30,000 USD for each bundle. Correct? This info is important for calculations in regards to your local tax laws.Everyone can still enter and work around this, just don't want anyone to get upset with a surprise audit or whatever.Also if you are under 18 please don't use your parents information without their permission. I doubt they'll be happy with a surprise audit as well.On another note, can confirm that as long as you don't wipe out your cookies and check confirmation email box, you will be entered using the information you first provided. Source: my inbox and current browser use.Best of luck

author: MarvinTheMartian
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 03:17:29 am
content: Hi Daniel!Thanks for the latestScopeMonthcomp, sorry Wave 2018.Can I ask why you don't use UT/GMT times for your competitions, etc (sorry to burst your bubble but the US is NOT the whole world) as it would be simpler for non-US participants to know what time it is in their part of the world instead of trying to work out where your 'Mountain Standard' time zone is in relation to their own?Cheers.EDIT:I Just viewed your live stream for Mon 5th and I note that you are now also giving UTC times as well - much appreciated.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 03:55:31 am
content: I don't have any trouble working it out. It's when other time zones are referenced that it becomes a little more of a concern.For example, the quiz contest which caters for Australia (and others) gives "Australia, Sydney 14:00 pm". We are on Daylight Savings time - so is that also Daylight Savings time? It makes no reference to that.From the time given for Singapore, it would seem so - but an explicit answer is better.If so, if you could please annotate the time with, say, "AEDST" for Australian Eastern Daylight Saving Time.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 04:31:29 am
content: Thanks for this. Its awesome!!! That RF bundle would be just insanely good, but the bench kit woudl be wonderful as well. I've just started working with RF projects doing Internet of thigns and cellular stuff.

author: Fludo
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 12:06:37 pm
content: Did the question of the day repeat from yesterday?

author: Orpheus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 12:41:54 pm
content: Quote from: MarvinTheMartian on March 03, 2018, 03:17:29 amQuote from: Brumby on March 03, 2018, 03:55:31 amThis is all the more puzzling because the US contest pages specify the times in UTC.The time zone issue doesn't seem to be an issue of corporate insensitivity but rather some local employee.

author: TheDane
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 12:46:15 pm
content: Quote from: Fludo on March 03, 2018, 12:06:37 pmI noticed too, reloaded, then remembered it is saturday.Weekends must be their time off, but I too wonder how they get the time to make all the nice stuff

author: CNe7532294
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 01:23:15 pm
content: Quote from: mrpackethead on March 03, 2018, 04:31:29 amAgreed. Like other posts at first, the decision to condense the time for the event (2 weeks) and the smaller prize pool was kind of a shock but there is some logic to it besides the nightmare of managing this event (finances, legal, logistics). Think of this.The entire goal of this event is to invest in the future of the industry. I can also see why RF awareness is "call to action" in this year contest. I'm not sure if this is the case in Australia, Denmark, Great Britain or anywhere else in the world but here in the US there seems to be a shortage of RF and Microwave Engineers due to lack of awareness.Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics and their Occupation Outlook Handbookhttps://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes172071.htmhttps://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/electrical-and-electronics-engineers.htmhttps://www.bls.gov/ooh/installation-maintenance-and-repair/telecommunications-equipment-installers-and-repairers-except-line-installers.htm#tab-8https://www.bls.gov/ooh/media-and-communication/broadcast-and-sound-engineering-technicians.htmhttps://www.bls.gov/ooh/a-z-index.htm#RI tried searching for anything Radio and Engineer and I just couldn't find anything but you find a lot of openings in any telecomms company (Bell for example). The world itself is in dire need of RF Engineers because it goes well beyond just broadcasting and telecommunications in the sources above. Nowadays we have WiFi and Bluetooth powering the internet and devices. Software Defined Radio is great but I believe it puts too much emphasis on coding and general electronics. Not that those are a bad thing, you will need those too, but there seems to be no spotlight on the RF design portion of how SDR works besides just theory.I reckon that someone in the RF dept. made a strong case with this. In which case, good on them and thank you. Hopefully RF will be included next year as well.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 03:18:49 pm
content: I must say the packages on offer will provide a significant boost to the winners.I'm looking at the RF package with hungry eyes - but I am torn between that and the bench bundle which will see far more service in my current endeavours. However, I daresay I am quite unlikely to have to make that choice.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 03:49:19 pm
content: To honored mr Bogdanoff!There is a probable workaround for Keysight regarding some Scandinavian and other Eu countries exclusion, if Keysight register a gambling company in Malta and run the competition as a subsidiary from there the excluded countries can enter. This is how all the gambling companies round the State monopoly gambling rules.Of course im not trying to suggest that Keysight do anything unlawful in Malta, oh no, no way, just saying legally bending mid eval constructed rules of contest excluded countries is what all multinational companies do all the time.... sort of...

author: maginnovision
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 04:43:48 pm
content: I originally signed up using my phone but couldn't look at app notes collection so signed up using PC, couldn't find a way to just look at notes, and got another confirmation email for entering. In the unlikely chance I win, is this going to be looked at as gaming the system? I used same e-mail, phone number, address, name. Just checked my phone and it has the get daily entry but I already did it on my PC.

author: wblackledg
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 06:04:09 pm
content: Thanks, I'll take the cheapo model..

author: FrankE
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 07:23:04 pm
content: Quote from: MarvinTheMartian on March 03, 2018, 03:17:29 amWhen I entered the times into my calendar for reminders I put them in as Mountain Time.Ta-da! My calendar programmes list the entries in my calendar and alarms in local time, even sorting out the change to daylight savings time in Keysight's local time on March 11th (or 11th of March if you prefer).The entry page gives reset time in UTC(zulu)"Daily entry resets at 08:01:00 UTC"

author: Fred27
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 03, 2018, 07:46:51 pm
content: I haven't got any confirmation emails. I don't think that's a problem. I didn't get any from the "Power up your Bench" contest either and then won a PSU.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2018, 06:25:47 am
content: Thanks everyone for the feedback!A couple comments:1. We did weekend updates the first year and that was pretty rough for us as a small team, so we generally try to run the event just on weekdays. This includes the daily challenge question. It obviously does not include responding to forum questions2. E-mail confirmations/entry confirmation: There were a couple ways to accidentally get multiple confirmation e-mails, but this doesn't show up as multiple entries in the system. The system we're using is pretty smart, so really the only way you could end up with multiple entries is if you are intentionally gaming the system with multiple sets of information. If you're unsure whether your entry went through, you can clear cookies and try again with the same e-mail. Also, if you see the "get daily entry" button, it means you can get an entry for that day. Going to the page from a device without the cookie and filling out the form again will yield the same result.Also, the entry confirmation is a new thing for us this year, so there is certainly some streamlining we can do for future events.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2018, 03:25:03 pm
content: The daily entry button is a great and welcome added feature. Thanks for implementing this!

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2018, 04:21:51 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on January 18, 2018, 01:43:19 pmWhere do you see Belgium is included? It seems we are not unfortunately. A shame beasue those are indeed really nice bundles!I posted first in Dave post about Keysight wave, but removed my post there after I seen it was to enter to win a dumpster scope (which I do not really need), but would very much like to enter for a bundleEdit: ok, I see, we can enter the "test to impress"-contest, but not the lotery...

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2018, 10:06:31 pm
content: I've noticed you can enter with countries not listed in the eligible countries list. Does that mean those entries are trashed? Do you get informed when you try to enter with non eligible details?

author: JackM
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2018, 10:18:10 pm
content: Everything appears to be much more streamlined with many improvements compared to last year. Not to mention the huge prize packs, nice!I'll try not to get my hopes up because I know the chances are low, but I still catch myself dreaming about winning someday.

author: alpher
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2018, 10:32:39 pm
content: One way or another.

author: Araho
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2018, 10:44:15 pm
content: Read this line from Dave's video about the announcement: "The total approximate retail value of the prizes is a maximum of $536,682"

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2018, 10:47:28 pm
content: Quote from: Araho on March 04, 2018, 10:44:15 pmRetail value versus actual cost makes it interesting if you're the manufacturer

author: MarvinTheMartian
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 03:19:07 am
content: Quote from: FrankE on March 03, 2018, 07:23:04 pmGood tip! Thanks.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 06:58:39 am
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 04, 2018, 10:06:31 pmThis was discussed a lot internally, and it was decided by the powers that be that the better experience for people is to not notify them if they sign up using a country that's not eligible. It does still give them access to the Wave library & challenge questions that they wouldn't get otherwise. Our goal is to make this an event that's interesting, educational, and fun regardless of the giveaways. We're also going to keep doing giveaways, of course.

author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 07:26:24 am
content: I will cross my fingers

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 07:42:05 am
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on March 05, 2018, 06:58:39 amI understand there is an interest on the Keysight side to harvest data of interested people, but not informing them that their actions are futile doesn't seem to be the way to go. I understand that's not your call, but it's a bit of a smoke and mirrors trick.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 08:20:04 am
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 05, 2018, 07:42:05 amI'm inclined to agree. To hide the futility of their competition entry is dishonest. Sorry.I know it's going to take a little more coding for the entry page, but I would consider it much more ethical to advise them they aren't eligible - but by entering their information, they have access to the resources on offer.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 10:25:03 am
content: Just saw on farnell ITALY a banner for Wave 2018 that lands herehttps://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/?cmpid=PremiereFarnellSo we can partecipate?

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 10:27:44 am
content: Quote from: JPortici on March 05, 2018, 10:25:03 amYou can, but you don't have any chance to win anything. Italy isn't eligible for any of the contest variants.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 01:28:13 pm
content: Yep, that's what ToC says. but then again farnell is inviting me to partecipate..

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 02:30:56 pm
content: Quote from: JPortici on March 05, 2018, 01:28:13 pmSee the previous discussion. Apparently it's "to give them access to the Wave library & challenge questions that they wouldn't get otherwise".

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 10:54:19 pm
content: We could see in the live-streams the drawings of the first and the third winner.Who is the second winner???Have I missed something? Is it possible to see the daily drawing? Or will the daily winner somewhere published?Where???BTW: The confirmation mails working fine now. At least mine.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 05, 2018, 11:59:38 pm
content: Hi ProBang2,There should have been the Friday winner embedded on the Wave webpage and on the Keysight Labs YouTube channel. The video will be posted at 10 AM MST to the YT channel, and embedded into the webpages after that.

author: hendorog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 08:06:09 am
content: Trap for young players to get your daily entry:Go to:https://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/Not:https://www.wavekeysight.com/sap-landing/For some reason I was alway getting redirected to the second URL, and never saw the daily entry button again after the first visit.This was true on several PC's and nothing seemed to fix it.After finding that link in this thread I tried it and got the button again. Clicked that and got the email confirmation - which I had not had since March 1.Over and under.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 08:37:35 am
content: The different countdown timers displayed on each of those sites are indicative of different locations and accordingly time zones, the relevant page states that tomorrows start time for AUS is 14:00 and in NZ it will be 16:00.

author: hendorog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 06, 2018, 08:54:48 am
content: Yes, no doubt the pages are for different regions. The confusing thing that suckered me is at one point or another I have seen both pages and have clicked the daily entry button.So I thought I was supposed to click the button enter each day, but I haven't seen the page with the button to click for some time so figured I was doing it wrong.In summary, there is no daily button to click on the sap-landing page. There _is_ a daily button on the landing page. I assume this is how it is supposed to be because NZ is not in the list of countries for the 'main' competition posted earlier (yeah I know, read the fine print etc):"This promotion is limited to specific countries and is only open to entrants aged 18 years or older at the time of submission who are legal residents of, and physically located within, Austria, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Chile, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Japan, Korea Republic of, Poland, South Africa, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom, United States (excluding Florida, New York, and Rhode Island), and Venezuela."

author: bsudbrink
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2018, 11:00:18 pm
content: BogdanON... BogdanOFF...

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 12:57:59 am
content: As someone who has had their fair share of name twisting in primary school, I'm sure Daniel has experienced this as well. Not cool.Quote from: Muttley Snickers on March 08, 2018, 01:13:03 amOh ... my apologies.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 01:13:03 am
content: Quote from: bsudbrink on March 07, 2018, 11:00:18 pmQuote from: Brumby on March 08, 2018, 12:57:59 amThe phrase member bsubbrink referred to was mentioned at 4:30 in the current Keysight video, it was nothing more than a bit of lighthearted fun by those shown in the video, my concern would be that they are actually looking for a replacement for Daniel which would be a serious mistake.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 01:14:13 am
content: Uncommon names are cool to learn more about. The site below indicates that in 2010 only 376 people in the US had the surname Bogdanoff, with a high concentration in California.http://names.mooseroots.com/l/96665/BogdanoffI've also seen it spelled Bogdanov.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 10:15:54 am
content: I've just found out that you need to have cookies enabled and must not auto-delete them when closing the web browser. Unfortunately that isn't explained anywhere. If you're a person concerned about privacy and have set your browser to auto-delete cookies when closing the browser you'll see the registration form again next day. So I re-registered again and again, and I assume Daniel considers this an attempted fraud and removes my entries. Only if the cookie is saved you'll see the webpage for re-entering for the next draw. Keysight, if you require cookies to be saved please tell so. Otherwise privacy concerned users won't have any chance to win because they re-register every day and you'll simply delete their entries because you think they are trying to cheat. But the problem is that the users won't see the page for re-entering the draw because of the auto-deleted cookie.

author: FrankE
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 11:56:21 am
content: Quote from: madires on March 08, 2018, 10:15:54 amI fell foul of that too.

author: Fred27
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 12:07:20 pm
content: I've been doing that as I've gone to the site on different devices. I assumed that a completely fresh (but identical) entry every day was the same as clicking the "get your daily entry" button. Is the not the case?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 12:24:34 pm
content: Can someone please fix the wonky LED tape in that sign...

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 03:08:27 pm
content: Entry submission flow is confusing, i would rather fill out a registration from scratch each day instead of relying on cookies and stuff. it is unclear what the daily challenge does, is it just for fun, is it required to be answered, or what, it is not explained. I once was on that page and both the daily challenge Submit and Get Your Daily Entry Submit buttons were there, i answered the challenge, clicked Submit it and the page refreshed and the Get your daily entry button was gone and i could not get it back and i never received a email confirmation for that day. Since then i do not touch the challenge button, just click the Get your daily entry one. With that i do receive email confirmations.All in all, i think the flow could have been presented better, it is confusing to have multiple Submit button on a same page.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 03:49:04 pm
content: I do not have a "Get your daily entry" button at all after I submitted my first entry.And I never got a confirmation email.Suddenly today I got an email with confirmation and I did not even do another entry, LOL!So, there is really no way for us to know, if we made it in to the contest or not.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 04:01:26 pm
content: I have decided I hate competitions I never win.The only thing that makes failing the daily draw liveable is the fact that I know that the LED alignment in the sign is winding MikesElectricStuff up the wrong way.Oh.. and I've decided on selling some merch so I can save up to buy my own 4CH scope. (Although now I've decided I really need a 24+CH logic analyser too)See attached

author: bsudbrink
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 05:18:06 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on March 08, 2018, 01:13:03 amWhat really struck my "funny bone" was the subtle "Karate Kid" reference.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 06:46:00 pm
content: NivagSwerdna, nice T-shirt.

author: Deridex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 07:52:31 pm
content: Quote from: madires on March 08, 2018, 10:15:54 amIf this is true, then there is no chance for me to get anything.Seriosly: Make the rules clear or the event might have the opposite(getting people pissed) effect than wanted.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 08:05:52 pm
content: I disagree. If anyone goes through the registration and sees the same information entered multiple times, once a day, I don't think anyone would see it as a cheater.Otherwise, if the same physical address has 20 e-mail addresses being re-registered everyday, I suspect that would be a tremendous red flag.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 08:11:02 pm
content: These competitions are important and beneficial for character building so people learn to cope with disappointment and injustice. The South Asia Pacific Quiz probably would have gone to the person who could type the fastest which wasn't me.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 09:25:09 pm
content: Quote from: madires on March 08, 2018, 10:15:54 amIf you're using the same email address, all should be well. It's clearly the same person entering. No worries.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 10:18:32 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on March 08, 2018, 12:24:34 pmI worked on it this afternoon, it'll be better on Monday I promise!

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 09, 2018, 12:49:59 am
content: Quote from: bitseeker on March 08, 2018, 09:25:09 pmOur system recognizes the e-mail address, so you'll be fine and won't get flagged. What's not ok is using multiple e-mail addresses day after day.

author: Deridex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2018, 04:37:39 am
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on March 09, 2018, 12:49:59 amThanks for explaining that. I still wonder however why i only got a confirmation email once. But i take your word that all is fine

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 09, 2018, 11:06:22 pm
content: Quote from: Deridex on March 09, 2018, 04:37:39 amYes, you're good to go!

author: TheDane
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2018, 08:33:57 am
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on March 08, 2018, 10:18:32 pmAlso thanks for working on the video stream quality, it was a bit choppy the first couple of streams - at least on my end.I have a question, which I might not be able to ask on the live Q&A YouTube stream later today (away from computer):I have been looking into how the arbitrary waveform generator is programmed, and it seems it acceepts two formats: Arb and CSV, which is either static or PC program generated.Quote from 'How to Easily Create an Arbitrary Waveform Without Programming'"G. If you prefer to use a software environment to generate your arb, or if you need more advanced math functions than what Excel can provide, you can still avoid having to remotely connect and program your arbitrary waveform generator. Most programming environments, like Matlab and LabView, have APIs for writing and reading CSV files. Simply have your program write the arb to a CSV file and “sneaker network” it to the AWG"In my ESR tester project I am using a microcontroller which has serial I/O possibilities - so I could cook up a way to sneak data directly to the generator.My question is: Can I also send commands 'directly', without having an API doing it or spending lots of memory?(Controller commands a sinewave at a freq, like doing it in Excel spreadsheet, and then the generator does so 'instantly'. Then the controller commands a diff. freq - the generator complies 'instantly') aka, more low level programming registers like I am used to with the AD983x programmable waveform generators - and I plan on using in the project.I hope it is OK to ask a question here, and that it is possibleThanks,Egon

author: Fred27
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 12, 2018, 10:53:39 am
content: No eevblog winners yet? Surely that can't be right. What's going on?There are some great prize bundles but it's not as entertaining as last year's scope month. Where's Sebastian? Where's the gamed popularity contest and in depth vote trend analysis? Where's the 1GHz induction water heater?On the plus side, I'm guessing it's less stressful for Daniel and the Keysight team.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2018, 05:48:56 pm
content: If I've won, no one has mentioned it to me, yet. But I keep trying.

author: metrologist
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2018, 06:10:31 pm
content: I've been trying for a few days to enter, but the site automatically says I'm entered to win!. It also says I can get a daily entry and when I click that, it automatically says I got my daily entry. Is entering automatic just by visiting the site? I have not seen the form again.Quote

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2018, 06:18:40 pm
content: If you either refresh the screen or type the URL in a blank tab, a button shows up as below:

author: metrologist
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2018, 06:24:44 pm
content: Yes, when I hit the button, I do not get a form. I get the message that I got my daily entry.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2018, 06:32:58 pm
content: Clicking the button submits your entry for the day. You will not see the form again because the cookie in your browser identifies you to the site. So, they already know it's you.You do have to click that button, though. Simply loading the page is not sufficient to get your daily entry.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2018, 07:31:55 pm
content: Quote from: bitseeker on March 12, 2018, 06:32:58 pmExactly. I should have clarified this in my post as well.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2018, 08:33:55 pm
content: No worries. I got your back.

author: KNSSoftware
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2018, 04:56:45 pm
content: Seriously?!!?Like an idiot, I have been entering everyday, and watching the draw, and I havn't even been included once, despite seeing an 'you are entered message'. You seriously have to click another button, even though, there has already been a full postback of the page, and it could have don't it in a single submission.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2018, 07:03:49 pm
content: If you submitted the form, you are entered — once — for the duration of Wave 2018. However, if you don't subsequently click the button each day (or re-submit the form if you see that instead of the button), then you're only entered once. By clicking the button (or submitting the form) each day, you get an additional entry.

author: KNSSoftware
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2018, 10:53:52 pm
content: are you sure aboutQuote from: bitseeker on March 13, 2018, 07:03:49 pmI clear the browser, so I always get a new form to fill out daily. I have never received an email conformation until now (which is a typical keysight oversight with these things, so didn't question it), and have never noticed the button that replaces asking for your details again, that appears after a form submit. After reading your post and pressing it after my usual full entry submission (so probably entered twice today for all i know), I got my first email conformation. If you are right, that means the email conformation function is only tied into the 'shortcut' button that reuses your cached details, but not the full form submission function, despite both re-entering your details on a daily basis.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2018, 11:26:20 pm
content: I cannot guarantee anything since I have no purview nor control of Keysight's systems. However, the submission behavior is how it was explained. There could be bugs. Caveat emptor, etc.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2018, 03:01:09 pm
content: Every time I press this button now, I am getting immediately a confirmation email.To me it seems to be working perfectly now.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2018, 03:27:10 pm
content: It is amazing how Keysight managed to make it so confusing and complicated out of a simple button click.

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2018, 05:09:16 pm
content: Quote from: Fred27 on March 12, 2018, 10:53:39 amYou are right. Wave 2018 has somehow by far not as much suspense as the Scopemonth 2017.Maybe, because the odds for winning are much lower in 2018.Remember: In 2017 were 5 Keysight 1000x scopes every weekday plus 2 Keysight 4000x on every friday in the sweepstake - for the whole month. That sums up to a total of 125 winners.In 2018 are 12 bundles and maybe 6 additional Keysight 1000x scopes possible.This 18 winners are divided over (IIRC) 17 eligible countries.Assuming, the part of the people which participate is in every country the same:Compare the USA with (for example) Venezuela. 322 million people versus 30 million people. Estimate yourself the odds for a guy from Venezuela...Or from Chile (18 million people)...Even for someone from Germany (81 million) are the odds not very well.Don´t let me be misunderstood: Big thanks to keysight for making this sweepstake (and making it international). No other company is doing something similar.And for the winners are the bundles a really fantastic prize, that´s for sure.But, the lower the odds of winning, the lower is my suspense and interest.At least, that applies to me. Maybe for others too.And: No! Please, not! No second SEBASTIAN!Really not necessary!

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 14, 2018, 07:31:57 pm
content: Thanks everyone for your patience, this type of system is definitely out of scope for our normal web stuff.We did fix the button error if that was an issue you were having - apparently spamming the button would throw an error.We're also taking notes for next year regarding e-mail notifications, that is new this year thanks to popular demand. It seems like it should be simple, but there's a whole audit process we have to go through before sending any automated e-mail in order to avoid breaking laws. I'll make a stink about it for next time so that we can make sure it is more consistent and reliable.@ProBang2, we definitely get both positive and negative feedback for our giveaways. In 2016 we gave away only 1 GHz 3000Ts and got a lot of positive responses. People seemed to like that it was a prize worthy of a well-equipped corporate R&D lab. 2017 we went full bore the other way with quantity, and got good feedback about that too with some complaints that a 1000X wasn't that compelling for many professional engineers. This year we tried to find a happy medium. We'll definitely be weighing our options for next year and try to find the best possible option.Ultimately, this event is a way for us to say thank you to this community and the engineering community as a whole. So THANK YOU ALL!And sure, it's good for business, but that's just how we justify it - not why we do it.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2018, 09:16:56 pm
content: Quote from: madires on March 08, 2018, 10:15:54 amIts like complaining you have to log into the forum again after you closed your browser and cleared your cookies.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 01:20:02 am
content: While it is always great to have an opportunity to win some really cool gear, I did not even attempt to enter the competition available to Australia. With the 2 prizes offered, I would only have really been able to use the bench gear. The RF gear was amazing, but really far more than I would ever be likely to use and I would not have felt too comfortable winning that and flogging it off. So only one prize was ever on my radar.However, the material from which questions could be drawn being what it was, I just couldn't justify the time to research and prepare - plus there being one set time means that if anything happened, my opportunity would pass. As a result, I didn't even try.My hopes lie with Dave and his dumpster finds....

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 03:57:31 am
content: Quote from: thm_w on March 14, 2018, 09:16:56 pmSorry, you got that wrong. It was a misunderstanding of what is meant by 'registration' and 'enter the draw'.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 06:16:17 am
content: I was wondering where you had gotten to, Brumby!

author: capt bullshot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 06:49:08 am
content: Todays German translation of the daily questionnaire was quite misleading:"Wenn längere Netzkabel zur Versorgung eines Geräts verwendet werden, gilt für die Netzkabellänge Folgendes (alle zutreffenden Antworten auswählen):"The term "Netzkabel" points towards the mains power supply cable (the one that you plug into your wall socket), this shouldn't have any influence on qualtity T&M equipment. So the correct answer would be "none of the answers".Reading the correct answers " C. Sie ist wichtig, da das Rauschen, bedingt durch Umwelteinflüsse, den an das Gerät gelieferten Strom beeinflussen kannD. Sie ist wichtig, da die Kabelimpedanz eine Signalverschlechterung verursachen kann ", I found out that the "wires" connecting a lab PS to a DUT (or similar) were mentioned. The German term would be "Prüfleitungen" or lazy language "Messstrippen"

author: hscade
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 06:58:40 am
content: Quote from: capt bullshot on March 15, 2018, 06:49:08 amHad the same issue with this question and it is not the first with an odd translation.

author: capt bullshot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 07:02:50 am
content: Quote from: hscade on March 15, 2018, 06:58:40 amYes, I'd prefer to read the original English text. I'm familiar with all the English technical terms, and the translation often isn't easily understandable if it wasn't done by a native speaker engineer who knows the correct native terms.That's a general problem with translated technical stuff, if the original language is English, I always prefer the original document. Vice versa, if the original language is German, the English translation often is hilarious. Don't know if this is the same for other languages.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 07:19:27 am
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on March 15, 2018, 06:16:17 amOh, I was looking...

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 07:44:09 am
content: BTW: There was a obvious typo. Nothing important. Changed the meaning only from "does matter" to "does not matter"...QuoteMy only fear is: The same guy translates the UI´s and manuals from Keysight...

author: CNe7532294
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 01:52:49 pm
content: Did something change? I no longer get a confirmation email like I've been getting up until today's entry.I waited for a good hour. No email. Deleted all cookies for wave and re entered still no email yet. Switch browsers. No email.

author: ProBang2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 06:23:34 pm
content: I didn´t got a confirmation mail today, either.

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 06:24:52 pm
content: Likewise. Maybe a bug.

author: hscade
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 06:37:57 pm
content: let's start with some conspiracy theories. Daniel is from the back side of the moon and builds a keysight robot to enslave human kind!

author: KNSSoftware
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 08:58:26 pm
content: I think they are taking on board our comments, as they have changed something, which is a positive. As stated previously, I always have to refill the form daily due to clearing the cache. I never get a conformation due to a bug with this method, however for the first time, it said I was entered into the daily, instead of showing the 'Daily Submit' button, you guys just normally click. They may get it right just in time for the last draw.

author: hscade
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 09:07:08 pm
content: Quote from: KNSSoftware on March 15, 2018, 08:58:26 pmhopefully

author: MarvinTheMartian
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 15, 2018, 10:49:11 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on March 15, 2018, 01:20:02 amSimilar story for me Brumby, too busy and stressed after the death of my wife - hoping luck is with me for Dave's dumpster dives as well (if not me, then maybe yourself)

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 16, 2018, 02:39:08 am
content: Well, I have a chance in 4 of them... I'm a member; I'm a supporter; I do Patreon and I responded in the Youtube comments. There's an excellent chance I can make it to the Sydney event - just need to know where and when. That will make 5 chances.Don't think I'm anywhere in the ball park for the "warm and fuzzy" selection, though, which is fine.If you do win one, I would ask for a nice, detailed photo of it on your bench. Vicarious living has its necessities.(and, yes, if I win, I will do likewise)

author: FrankE
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 16, 2018, 03:25:31 am
content: Might be an idea to have to create an account for wave if they run it again. Daily entries would be handled by account rather than cookies and that would free up the chat for discussion of the tips, application notes and instruments.After one entry which places one in the draw the extra entries aren't as statistically.significant anyway.I've sure enjoyed watching the tips, reading the data sheets and app notes and lusting over the instruments.Someday maybe.

author: CNe7532294
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2018, 03:19:00 am
content: I ended up saving everything from the site. Even the webpages (both complete and screenshot). With permission I could upload those to my dropbox folder, K04BB's site, or something similar. I couldn't get the SAP questions on time though because that is moon time for me. If the questions and answers could be provided for SAP week 2 (SAP week 1 is on their blog) that would be awesome.The schematic challenges are found in both the scope and rf blogs of Keysight.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2018, 04:29:55 pm
content: Well, I guess that's it then. Congrats for the winners.

author: SirAlucard
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2018, 03:20:17 pm
content: I'm surprised they would remove all those PDF files from their library. They should have a dedicated area for those kind of things. Just in case I grabbed them all for future use.

author: Deridex
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2018, 05:33:03 pm
content: Congratulations to all the winners

author: Orpheus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2018, 06:53:47 pm
content: Quote from: capt bullshot on March 15, 2018, 07:02:50 amI was once fluent in German, but after almost 30 years I must take every opportunity to practice, lest I lose my German entirely.A while back I was reading a hilarious German technical paper -- well, it was only hilarious to me, because as I was slogging through it, painfully pulling the meaning of each word out of my dusty grey matter, I misread Rauschen (noise) as Rauch (smoke) which influenced me to convince myself that "sauber" (which I knew meant "clean")alsomeant "magic" ("zauber").Now I've finally found a setting where people might actually understand the hilarity that ensued.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2018, 09:54:53 pm
content: Nver mind, did'nt win, theres always 2019!

author: CNe7532294
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2018, 01:12:42 am
content: Quote from: SirAlucard on March 19, 2018, 03:20:17 pmThey still have them at keysight. You just have to search more. As for the dedicated area (the wave webpages), that is what was "closed" but you can still access it, as of right now, if you remember the link address.search "wavekeysight" and "making-rf-magic" or "how-to-get-clean-dc-power". Better hurry because it'll all be taken down (404'd) eventually and google may uncache it eventually as well.

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 20, 2018, 08:52:16 pm
content: Sorry for the radio silence! The German translations were new for us, we generally don't do that translation so there were clearly some kinks to work out. I've also given feedback to the team that we should have some sort of "view in English" type page.Also, the PDF files & their links will probably not go away for a long, long time. The Wave collection/library pages are what is gone, not the content itself. If someone were to put them on a dropbox somewhere that wouldn't be the end of the world. The better approach would be to just post the links, though, as that will give people the latest version of those documents.

author: KNSSoftware
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2018, 01:41:18 am
content: Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on March 20, 2018, 08:52:16 pmThere was a contest for a FieldFox around here, that may have helped

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 29, 2018, 11:11:32 am
content: Fail on the Test to Impress entry page.https://www.wavekeysight.com/sap-close/And, you have until March 31 to enter the Test to Impress Contest. Winners will be announced by April 15 on the Keysight Labs YouTube Channel.But the link to enterhttps://www.wavekeysight.com/sap-landing/sap-test-impress/loads the /sap-close page contents, so no one can enter.

author: tmaiman89
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 01, 2018, 03:18:58 pm
content: Does entering Test to Impress would receive confirmation email?

author: Keysight DanielBogdanoff
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 03, 2018, 07:07:32 am
content: @tmaiman89, I don't recall. If you're concerned you can PM me your info and I'll check on it. I'm confident that form worked, though, based on the quantity of entries received.

author: tmaiman89
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 04, 2018, 10:58:34 am
content: Sounds like a lot of entries received. Seems my chance pretty small :pray:

author: TheDane
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2018, 06:14:30 am
content: Quote from: station240 on March 29, 2018, 11:11:32 am"Not a match"Test to Impress 2018 Winners!

author: chris.w.maloney@gmail.com
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 20, 2019, 01:22:31 pm
content: Cool thanks!Chris