STM32 development tools - Page 1
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author: attiny128
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 09, 2016, 09:03:34 am
content: Hi,I'm searching for free development tools for STM32 series. ST provides STVD with some memory limitations, Kiel, Raisonance and IAR has also memory limitations.I'm porting from STM8 to STM32. will it be good to use other controllers like Atmel OR Microchip instead of purchasing licensing tools from Raisonance?because Atmel and Microchip provides development tools like IDE and compiler free of cost but for STM32 needs to purchase compiler. Please suggest.Thanks.

author: MrZeroo00
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2016, 09:11:05 am
content: ST provides a free toolchain and IDE based on Eclipse for STM32. It's System Workbench for STM32 that you can download here:OpenSTM32 Community

author: donotdespisethesnake
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2016, 02:59:50 pm
content: Try herehttp://www.openstm32.org/HomePage

author: technix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2016, 03:32:48 pm
content: So far I had success using stock Eclipse CDT, GNU ARM Embedded toolchain (based on GCC,) GNU ARM Eclipse plugins for Eclipse CDT, and the software packs defined by Keil (that Eclipse CDT with GNU ARM Eclipse also accepts.) As of the hardware tools, you can start with building a CMSIS-DAP compatible debug probe (since you can use UART to flash firmware into STM32 but not debugging this way) and then handle your projects using the said debug probe.

author: bobaruni
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2016, 04:08:52 pm
content: https://www.embitz.org/

author: OZ1LQB
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2016, 04:27:37 pm
content: Hi..I usehttp://atollic.comNo code size limitsFreeWorks fine for meClaus

author: Kremmen
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2016, 03:08:41 pm
content: +1 for System Workbench for STM32 from openSTM32. Sw4stm together with CubeMX from ST makes projects using e.g. Nucleo and Discovery boards a breeze. And of course the combo supports any ST processor in your own HW as well.Setup is dead easy - the only complaint is that in Linux some tweaking is needed to get the compiler paths right. In Windows it works right out of the box.

author: dgtl
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2016, 10:06:51 pm
content: +1 for eclipse + gnuarmeclipse plugin + openocd (or texane stlink) with stlink v2+ gcc-arm-embedded toolchain (manually downloaded and extracted archive from launchpad for using always the same toolchain for same project fw updates). I use CubeMX for pin planning; then generate the project template and pick the files that I need (register header, cmsis etc). I do not use ST's libs (hal etc). So it has been working as intended; thousands of devices working and no sneaky issues so far.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2016, 07:38:58 pm
content: I'm going to vote for Eclipse and the GNU toolchain. This setup will work on both Linux and Windows.Eclipse has a lot of plug-ins for various setups but you can always use a Makefile and build pretty much anything you want.On my Surface Book (Win10), I have Eclipse with the STM tools as well as native C/C++ and GNU Fortran. It doesn't matter what I want to do, I can use Eclipse as the IDE.The other IDE I like to use is Microsoft Visual Studio Community Edition (free). In addition to the usual Windows code, the setup can also be used with an Arduino plug-in. Some years back, I used VS with a Makefile to generate code for one of the larger Atmel chips. This was very slick! The code was running on a board that had inputs and outputa connected to knobs, switches and dials. The Atmel chip would send/receive HMI packets to the PC C code I wrote within the same IDE to connect the gadgets to Microsoft Flight Simulator. Very cool! Everything needed for the project was in one place. I'm pretty sure I could do the same thing using Ecllipse.

author: technix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2016, 08:12:28 pm
content: Quote from: rstofer on December 11, 2016, 07:38:58 pmI had Eclipse and GNU toolchain up on all three of my computers, Windows 10, macOS Sierra and Ubuntu 16.10. Code and project is often simply copied from computer to computer and kept in sync with git, and it just works.(Most of my development is done on Windows 10 or macOS Sierra, but both machines suffer from memory constraints so compiles are often offloaded to the Ubuntu machine which had 16 processor cores at 2.7GHz, 32 threads and 128GB ECC RAM, allowing for a fast recompile.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2016, 09:30:16 pm
content: https://www.embitz.org/

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2016, 09:28:39 pm
content: Which ones of these support in circuit debugger?

author: technix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 02:57:31 am
content: Quote from: Bud on December 12, 2016, 09:28:39 pmCMSIS-DAP does.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 03:07:00 am
content: Eclipse with OpenOCD...

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 03:23:11 am
content: Quote from: technix on December 13, 2016, 02:57:31 amIsn't CMSIS-DAP an interface specification and not an IDE ?

author: technix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 06:06:23 am
content: Quote from: Bud on December 13, 2016, 03:23:11 amTools conforming with CMSIS-DAP will provide debugging features, including homebrew hardware and OpenOCD.

author: attiny128
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 09:27:17 am
content: Thank you guys.are there any sample projects available for system workbench for STM32L152 so that I can start with basic things like toggle port pin, sense input keys etc.

author: mrm2007
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 01:14:27 pm
content: Quote from: attiny128 on December 13, 2016, 09:27:17 amHi,Check these links :STM32 Nucleo examples, based on Standard Peripheral Library (UM1726) (for all nucleo boards including L152 ) :http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/embedded-software/mcus-embedded-software/stm32-embedded-software/stm32-standard-peripheral-libraries-expansions/stsw-stm32143.htmlSTM32 Nucleo-64 development board with STM32L152RE MCU, supports Arduino and ST morpho connectivity ( Check download section , mbed examples , ....etc)http://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/nucleo-l152re.htmlBTW , you need to register on the ST.com site to download files.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 01:55:40 pm
content: Quote from: rstofer on December 11, 2016, 07:38:58 pmSo you saying if install arduino plugin , VS can be used with many or all STM devices?

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 03:06:07 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on December 13, 2016, 01:55:40 pmRe: VSNo, there is a specific plug-in for Arduino and it works with Arduinos, not ARMs. It adds a couple of buttons for downloaing the object code to the device so the user interface is a lot like the Arduino IDE in terms of board type, buttons and COM ports.I'm not aware of a plug-in for ARMs but I would just create a C++/General/Makefile type project. I probably have to manage the Makefile. It might be worth searching around to see what is available. When I used it, I was using GCC for the Atmel chips and I probably had to make up a small Makefile. It's been years...Re: EclipseEclipse seems to manage the Makefile for many types of projects. I am using the Neon.1 version and, while I have the GNUARM plug-in, my STM Nucleo project properties point directly at the STM toolchain. Similarly, my Fortran project properties point directly at that toolchain (still GCC) but there is a specific plug-in for Fortran. Eclipse handles a lot of the details.In both cases, there may be suitable plug-ins for various types of projects.

author: rheb1026
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2016, 05:27:57 pm
content: I use a plugin called VisualGDB for Visual Studio. It costs about $90 for the embedded version and covers ST, TI, Atmel and many other micros. They have a 30 day trial, and I highly recommend you try it. The developers update the microcontroller support lists about every three months (at least for the ST ARM controllers).

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2016, 05:34:23 pm
content: Is it a subscription or permanent license?

author: rheb1026
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 17, 2016, 06:16:33 pm
content: Permanent license. But they only offer support and updates for one year, so that seems to encourage people to upgrade every year. The updates, as far as I can tell, means updates to the plugin itself. So as long as you don't want any of the newer features of the updated plugin, you can just stick with what you've got.

author: Barry_S
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 19, 2016, 11:45:41 am
content: Hi,I use a combination of STM32CubeMX and Eclipse with Open OCD. My laptop is running W7 pro 64 bit.I have an Stm32f4 Discovery board.It took a few tries to understand and get everything working but I can now develop projects with this set up.I use STM32CubeMX to generate the required pin i/o configurations and use them in eclipse.I found Carmine Noviello's blog a really useful resource for setting everything up:http://www.carminenoviello.com/2015/06/04/stm32-applications-eclipse-gcc-stcube/I hope that helps.

author: lucazader
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2017, 07:52:41 pm
content: Bit late to the discussion I know, but thought i would add my 2c as well.At work we have recently shifted from Keil to Atollic Truestudio.While keil is great, their v5 compiler was having more and more issues with newer ST processors that we are looking to use, eg F3 and F7 series. While their new v6 compiler (based on llvm) looks great, it would have required re-starting our support subscription, which is as expensive as all heck.We looked around and ended up switching to what i had been using at home for quite a while: Truestudio.It's a great IDE. It's basically Eclipse + GCC + GDB, but with a few nice ide additions. Some optimisations and changes to how they use the CDT build system and also much better/more reliable gdb support, especially for trace debugging etc. It also works great with the STMcube.It's also much easier to setup, just install and go.It does have a few downsides however. but for us they were less of an impact than the downsides of keil.Edit:Oh and as others have mentioned, the free/lite version has no code size limitations. The only real limits are they restrict some/most of the extra advanced debugging functionality that things like standard eclipse+gcc dont offer anyway.

author: mubes
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2017, 04:03:32 pm
content: Even later to the party, but I reccomend following the recipie athttp://gnuarmeclipse.github.io/, then if you're using the Nucleo board re-flash the ST-Link with J-Link from the Segger site.Jeez, feel like I'm becoming a walking Segger advert just lately....but they've still not managed to anything do p??s me off yet.DAVE

author: gnif
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 13, 2017, 04:36:15 pm
content: Editor: ViMDebugger: OpenOCD with USB OLEX interfaceToolchain: Debian comes with the gcc-arm-none-eabi package which will target Cortex M3 just fine.Library: ChibiOS wraps everything up beautifully.