Should I buy a new car or an awesome FPGA? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: iampoor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2014, 08:24:09 am
content: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Altera-Corporation/5SGTMC7K2F40C2ES/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvoScKlWpK8TBFFO0FjFVkjBsZMkmLO2aw%3dAm idea what someone might use these for? Wouldnt a designer normally just parallel a few "lesser" FPGA's? Or is this one of those chips that the government would buy to save .3 square in's on a PCB?

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 01, 2014, 08:32:52 am
content: They're out of stock, you'll have to get the car instead.

author: senso
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2014, 02:33:59 pm
content: What a rip-off, only 600 IO's

author: nihilism
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2014, 03:18:02 pm
content: Quote from: senso on February 01, 2014, 02:33:59 pmIt's got lots of balls though. 1517 of them.

author: Abstr7ct
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2014, 03:45:29 pm
content: Buy a car and take a loan to buy the awesome FPGA. Make sure not to fry it the next day!

author: marshallh
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 01, 2014, 03:49:19 pm
content: There is a similar thread partway down the subforum. Read it if you're curious

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2014, 04:08:19 pm
content: My vote:

author: paf
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2014, 11:55:08 am
content: Well, one usually understands better the components if one reads the datasheet...Let's see:The chip is a Stratix 5SGTMC7K2F40C2ES FPGA:28.05-Gbps and 12.5-Gbps transceivers ( 150 + 36 )Backplane works up to 12.5-Gbps data rate capabilityI/Os are 1.4 Gbps LVDS (each pin of the 600 I/Os)On chip termination includedMemory interface at 1066 MHz includedThe 600 I/Os do not include the 186 transceiver pinsHardware already included for 10 Gb Ethernet and many types of PCI-Express interfaces.2560 blocks of ECC Memory of 20 Kbits each939K registers512 multipliers (18x18 bits)256 multipliers (27x27 bits)For data (or voice) networking equipment, if you need to route, filter or "collect data" from a BIG, BIG amount of traffic, there is nothing like an high end FPGA.It is "normal" that the price is also high-end.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2014, 12:11:14 pm
content: how many on a reel

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2014, 01:03:26 pm
content: Quote from: Psi on February 02, 2014, 12:11:14 pmI'm sure it comes in trays. The trays come in armored cars with the national guard's parade march.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2014, 01:43:13 pm
content: I once placed an order for a power transistor. Nothing special just the OEM part. Got a reply a week later from the main stores saying that while they could get them, there was a problem. To get them meant the manufacturer would start up the line and run them off. Minimum quantity they would do was 100k units, and at $10 each. As I needed only 2 I said cancel the order, and went shopping for an equivalent in the stores instead. I did order power supplied though that came in at a six figure cost each though. Was no way to fix the original charred beyond belief original ones, was hard enough to get the cooked remains out of the card frame without destroying everything else.

author: con-f-use
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 02, 2014, 01:58:27 pm
content: Almost 26k and not even RoHS conform. That's just a deal breaker, get the car!

author: tjaeger
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2014, 09:24:53 pm
content: Quote from: con-f-use on February 02, 2014, 01:58:27 pmTo be fair, you pay $3000 for the Pb option.

author: Scrts
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 05, 2014, 09:06:16 am
content: Nobody pay such price... If you get to the distributor, the price maybe even 50% smaller or sometimes downto 30% of the price mentioned on mouser/digikey/farnell. We had insane reduce of price for Cyclone V.

author: denizcan
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2014, 10:27:03 am
content: Apparently, this device was produced in small quantities for some specific purpose.. If you think of setup cost and production difficulty of complex chips, even that price might be nothing.. If you don't need that much gates in that much small package in your project, I propose keeping stock clean and buying a new car.