Where do you find Electronics agencies for Germany - Page 1
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author: ocset
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 11:41:06 am
content: Hello,Do you know if there are vacancies for work in Germany.My friend wishes to go there?

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 11:56:23 am
content: Quote from: treez on March 17, 2018, 11:41:06 amCMIIW, isn't that look like a hobbyist's qualification ?Quote from: treez on March 17, 2018, 11:41:06 amNothing wrong with just simple capability & skill though, the real question is howlow"simple" salary are you willing to accept ?

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 11:57:29 am
content: Quote from: treez on March 17, 2018, 11:41:06 amI take it you gave your current company as a reference? And I also take it they then try to abuse their position by giving false information?Personally I would take matters into my own hands. Take it as a loss you cannot use them as a reference as they are trying to corrupt the proces, which is at the same time extra motivation to get out of the company.In terms of recruiters or jobs looking for "simple" engineering practices, I'm not so sure. I think vocational school can teach these things (atleast in Netherlands on "MBO"), but a lot of people with this level of education do not end up as engineer but (field) technicians or in manufacturing or assembly. That is because a lot of companies like to get Bachelor+ people for anything that requires design or engineering, probably because EMC requirements or costly screwups in the case of an oversight.At the company I used to work at, we also had these level of "one-off" jobs laying around, and most often we would get (MBO/Bachelor) students or internships to fix them up.Nevertheless, not all companies are the same. Maybe there are companies around that have to fill these positions, but I'm unsure of any recruitment companies specializing in them.My first bet actually would be to call up a few recruiters that specialize in electrical engineering jobs, and ask if they got contacts that may be interested.

author: ocset
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 12:19:05 pm
content: OK Thanks

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 12:26:03 pm
content: Quote from: treez on March 17, 2018, 12:19:05 pmIs that even legal in UK ?!?

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 12:32:23 pm
content: In my experience, prospective employers only take up references once they have interviewed you and made a provisional offer... Provisional on satisfactory references.Recruitment agents never do, certainly without a job offer in place. That would be unethical.Maybe your employer overheard you, listened to your phone conversation, saw you updating your CV etc. Or just picked up on your mood or something you said.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 12:39:38 pm
content: Man, this almost sound like you are not allowed to leave, what did you do? Joined "the firm"?http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106918.Ok serious turn the situation around.They don't want you to leave, that gives a lot of leverage, so start learning negotiation tactics and politics.For instance offer to do the boring work for three days but two days you are allowed to create your own product.That means a budget to order parts, boards etc etc but first you need to come up with something new they don't have in their portfolio. That also means a lot of resonsibility, are you up to this? Are you already good enough to design a new product or do you need to learn a lot preferably from a more senior colleague? Be honost to yourself.Last option is just quit and walk away, write a resignation letter and sent it by registered mail or whatever your country law dictate in order for it to be binding.If I read a lot of your topics my personal opinion however only based on your actions on this forum is that it is way past time to move on and find a more professional company where you fit in.Good luck, tough decisions ahead of you.

author: ocset
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 12:50:39 pm
content: OK Thanks

author: ocset
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 12:53:42 pm
content: OK Thanks

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 01:30:53 pm
content: Quote from: treez on March 17, 2018, 12:53:42 pmWhy not stay put there and do your personal design work+ sales/marketing of it ?Looks like your boss is lazy enough to not seek a replacement for you, and you still are cheap enough for them.2 good reasons for doing it.

author: ocset
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 01:51:06 pm
content: OK Thanks

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 02:08:41 pm
content: Giving a factually incorrect reference would be legally actionable, however if they are smart they can either refuse to give a reference or be very selective without actually lying.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 03:12:38 pm
content: In the UK companies will not usually give a reference. They will only confirm the start and end dates of an employee, and the role in which they were employed. Before the late 80s things were different. however, court cases by employees who were given bad references - often genuinely bad employees - lead to the current regime. No reference from the company. No references from employees of the company (if they have any sense).

author: ocset
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 05:43:14 pm
content: OK thanks

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 05:59:34 pm
content: Quote from: treez on March 17, 2018, 05:43:14 pmYou're going to Hell!

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 06:49:54 pm
content: Quote from: treez on March 17, 2018, 05:43:14 pmIf you hadn't, someone else will have - at least the company is employing some people in the UK and making some contribution in tax, VAT etc.

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2018, 10:58:47 pm
content: Stay where you are, do your 9-5 job, and use that income to develop your own products and business for the future.Depending on your contract, it may be worth getting your current company to commit in some way to your actual employed activities... i.e. a proper job description, then you’re *partially* covered that your developments are not directly related to,your day job.If they nominate you as a service technician, they’ll have trouble saying you ‘stole’ design IP that you created - from them.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2018, 12:14:40 am
content: Quote from: Gyro on March 17, 2018, 12:32:23 pmRecruitmentpimpsagents unethical? Shurely shome mishtake. Perish the thought.My CVnevercontained references, but did say they would be provided when appropriate. That trapped out the pimps approaching my referees to see if they had any jobs on offer. I don't recalleverbeing asked for names of referees, but they may have written to the relevant HR departments behind my back.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2018, 02:16:27 am
content: Quote from: treez on March 17, 2018, 05:43:14 pmStay for as long as you can bear it, get as much cash as you can out of them, to build up your "screw you" fund for when you eventually decide to quit

author: daybyter
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2018, 06:35:11 am
content: https://www.mikrocontroller.net/forum/ausbildung-studium-beruf

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2018, 01:05:54 am
content: Quote from: treez on March 17, 2018, 11:41:06 amDude, what is wrong with you, deleting the original question and then all your replies, replacing it with something unrelated? (Since all your original text got quoted, it's not as though it's become invisible).It's like all your posts are designed to waste people's time...

author: Lord of nothing
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2018, 08:49:05 am
content: The Main Question why German? Trust me you dont want life and work in Germany.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2018, 10:04:50 am
content: Quote from: tooki on March 19, 2018, 01:05:54 amMaybe his employer found this thread..

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 19, 2018, 12:49:02 pm
content: I think we can close this one, clearly going nowhere