Cannot find temporary unlocked additional packages on Siglent SVA1015X - Page 1
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author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 08:58:46 am
content: My SVA1015X arrived yesterday and I intend to use it for EMI pre-complience testing (conducted emission to begin with). I see it is loaded with temporary licenses for packages that otherwise need to be purchased additionally. I am interested in how to access these options locally or remotely via a SCPI controller which will make it easier for me to decide whether to buy them or not. The connection via Ethernet is successful and the SCPI commandSYSTem:OPTions?reports that I have additional packages available. The package of primary interest is EMI.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 10:03:32 am
content: You've got 120 hours of usage before trial options expire so plenty of time to get a few tasks done before even worrying about options.You know these have a webrowser feature don't you ?Just set its IP and negotiate to it from your PC.A beta tester of these in Ohio put his online and wedroveit all the way from NZ !Have fun with it, they're a neat bit of kit.

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 11:17:41 am
content: I'm aware of web server. Does it mean that "EMI" settings and measurements are available only via web interface? I didn't succeed to establish connection yet: ping and connection via SCPI port works, but web browser refuse to connect to port 5900 (tried with and without password set).

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 11:23:32 am
content: I forgot to say that I found in the meantime EMI filter and quasi-peak detection options in menus. But I also expect a graph with CISPR limits similar to what appears on Keysight EMI receiver:

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 11:31:24 am
content: Quote from: prasimix on June 27, 2020, 11:17:41 amNo, see here on how to get to it:QuoteNo port assignment required for webrowser connection.Connect SVA to your LAN switch and in System menu find the I/O LAN settings and either let DCHP do its thing or set an valid IP and subnet for your network.Enter that IP into a PC browser address bar and you're straight into the instrument Welcome page where you can access the SCPI console or use the remote instrument control.

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 11:39:37 am
content: Here's what it looks like on my side:Probably something is missing. BTW, wouldn't it be wonderful if there was a possibility to save your configuration to a file and that I could load it?You're right about port number, that 5900 is somehow misleading, there is no need to add :5900 in url, just IP address.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 12:04:30 pm
content: That screenshot was pinched from a Siglent website however I now have my SVA out but it’s midnight so can’t hang around much longer, sorry.You set the EMI limit lines in the Limit menu.I’ll have a look if there’s a vid at Siglent to help you through using the EMI feature.........In any of the Siglent spectrum analyzer webpages go to Resources and hunt through the App notes, Operating tips and Video pages and you'll find plenty there to get you started.https://www.siglenteu.com/spectrum-analyzers/ssa3000x-plus/#resources

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 12:52:28 pm
content: Oh, I can see limit menu, but it seems that I have to draw that line by myself adding characteristic points?

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 01:20:26 pm
content: I managed to define manually limit, but just one. I don't know how to define two different though it's offered. What is defined in the first is constantly copied to the second.

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 27, 2020, 04:12:52 pm
content: Hm, I think I have what I need

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2020, 09:45:11 am
content: Not to open a new topic, I will ask here another uneducated question: why TG doesn't work in SA mode? It is clear to me that it is active in VNA and "distance to fault" mode. Maybe because it's a tracking and not a signal generator, so it's not possible to define a fixed frequency but just a sweep? It confuses me that in SA mode TG can be activated and does nothing.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2020, 09:57:22 am
content: Quote from: prasimix on July 01, 2020, 09:45:11 amCheck System Options as TG should be a permanently enabled option as it's been for a year or 2.

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2020, 10:23:41 am
content: Hm, cannot find anything like System options. When I press System button I got the following options where TG is not listed:

author: Joel_l
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2020, 02:19:52 pm
content: After pressing the system button, did you look in "system info". That's where TG shows up on my SSA.

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 01, 2020, 02:34:56 pm
content: Quote from: Joel_l on July 01, 2020, 02:19:52 pmSystem info in my case looks something like this:Please note that I have SVA not SSA model. TG has its own illuminated button on the front panel where I can turn it on or off among other things, but that has no effect in SA mode what is confusing.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2020, 09:43:36 pm
content: Quote from: prasimix on July 01, 2020, 02:34:56 pmYour firmware needs updating, get the latest version here:V2.2.1.2.5https://www.siglenteu.com/service-and-support/firmware-software/spectrum-analyzers/#sva1000x-seriesFYI SVA1032XTG into RF IN.Trace A = open inputTrace B = TG ON

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2020, 04:56:53 pm
content: Thanks a lot. How many hours does the upgrade take? I started it more then an hour ago and it still displays "Upgrading now, please wait..."

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2020, 05:08:41 pm
content: Quote from: prasimix on July 02, 2020, 04:56:53 pmNot good...

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2020, 05:09:51 pm
content: Hm, what to do? If I interrupt it what will happen? Any chance to go back to previous firmware?

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2020, 05:14:24 pm
content: Many hours??? I would say you have no alternative as rebooting and see what happens. Fingers crossed.

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2020, 05:18:43 pm
content: Huh, I just switch it off on power button, and it reboot with old firmware version. Perhaps I'll postpone this experiment until I made all needed EMC testing, it is too risky.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2020, 05:20:56 pm
content: Quote from: prasimix on July 02, 2020, 05:18:43 pmAre you sure you downloaded the SVA1015 and not the SVA1032 FW?

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 02, 2020, 05:27:15 pm
content: Oops, you're right!Filename is SVA1032X_2.2.1.2.5_EN.zip that is definitely not for SVA1015

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2020, 05:33:01 pm
content: In that case you can go with SVA1015 FW. No stress.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2020, 03:51:28 pm
content: Quote from: prasimix on July 02, 2020, 05:27:15 pmNow you're running with 2.5 FW there's been another update to V2.8 with an enhancement of a special EMI mode.Check the release notes:https://www.siglenteu.com/service-and-support/firmware-software/spectrum-analyzers/#sva1000x-seriesThis is what it will look like:There's a new manual version also with a section dedicated to this new EMI mode.

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2020, 09:22:15 am
content: Thanks for update. So far I can see a slight difference in calculating/showing measured data. This is what it looks like with old firmware:... and new one:I was unable to do anything with the new EMI section, nor did I find a new manual describing how to use it.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2020, 09:28:48 am
content: Quote from: prasimix on September 05, 2020, 09:22:15 amEMI is now in the Mode menu as a special mode.SVA1000X manual Chapter 7 P112https://www.siglenteu.com/download/6313/

author: prasimix
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 05, 2020, 09:31:00 am
content: Thanks, I'll explore it and let you know the results.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2020, 09:36:05 am
content: Works the same an all Siglent's analyzers except in the older SSA models.....but the later Plus, SVA and X-R.Other questions about EMI here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/first-time-spectrum-analyzer-use-(siglent-ssa-3021x)/