Fluke 3000 FC - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 10:35:27 am
content: Hi everyone.First,sorry for my english and thanks for the amazing forum and all the people participate on it.I want ask, what do you understand, about this paragraph of the fluke webpage?I understand i can connect my fluke3000 Fc to my laptop an do logging, analysis and diagnosis,do you?If i´m wrong, please let me know, whit a reply, please..Well, you can logging the data from the multimeter to mobile or tablet, you need only download the APP and turn on bluetooth (with some restrictions), for the laptop you cannot do the same, you need buy a bluetooth adapter (Fluke pc3000 FC).OK, i bought it.........and surprise.....you cannot log any data from the multimeter, you only can view live values, and capture a graph (image.png)I contact with the fluke support........and the answer is.........Fluke 3000 FC True-RMS Wireless Multimeter has no memory!!!!!If i can view the data in my laptop why i cannot log, i don´t need memory for my multimeter.What your opinions about this.THKs Again

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 11:18:19 am
content: It's a wireless multimeter, not a logging multimeter.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 11:27:30 am
content: He wants to log the data on the laptop as advertised by Fluke (see the big red Arrow above)@akg, have you seen this?http://en-us.fluke.com/community/fluke-news-plus/logging-with-cnx-pc-sw3000.html

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 11:55:06 am
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on June 16, 2017, 11:27:30 amThanks for the reply.No options for the multimeter

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 12:32:08 pm
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on June 16, 2017, 11:27:30 amAnything that can receive the values can also log them, sure.The meter itself has no memory though.

author: alm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 12:47:24 pm
content: Sounds like the person on the other end misunderstood your question to mean stand-alone logging. I would ask them how to do this with your meter:QuoteQuote fromhttp://en-us.fluke.com/products/all-accessories/fluke-pc3000-fc-wireless-pc-adapter.html#overview

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 12:52:13 pm
content: I think you have the wrong adapter, the CNX version has internal memory:http://en-us.fluke.com/products/all-accessories/fluke-cnx-pc3000-pc-adapter.htmlHmm, so does the other one... ?

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 12:58:33 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 16, 2017, 12:32:08 pmThanks for reply,No, with the Fluke software can´t log any data, if you mean i can use other software, please can you say.Quote from: Fungus on June 16, 2017, 12:32:08 pmwhat's matter?Sorry again for my english.

author: Wytnucls
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 01:34:48 pm
content: The meter, like the PC is just a terminal which can display the readings received from several modules.If you need to work with the saved module data on your computer, you need to download it directly from the memory in each module. Save the files in a .csv format on your computer.If you don't have logging modules, the PC software provided can only display readings received from the meter and generate a graph from the data, as you showed.If you could decode the stream of data from the meter, it may be possible to log the data into a third party software.

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 02:00:11 pm
content: Quote from: Wytnucls on June 16, 2017, 01:34:48 pmThanks for the reply.Ok, for my you are right, but here have the problem, becouse in advertising of the webpage didn't say (see in my first post)If i can´t log with multimeter, why they say."Add your laptop and go from logging to analysis and diagnosis"This is fake advertising.

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 02:07:34 pm
content: HQuote from: PA0PBZ on June 16, 2017, 12:52:13 pmSorry i missed your reply, no, is the same multimeter without memory, i think.http://en-us.fluke.com/products/digital-multimeters/fluke-3000-fc-wireless-multimeter.htmlCNX version isn't compatible with mine.

author: todd_fuller
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 02:11:37 pm
content: Might check out sigrok. It's an open source signal analysis tool set. It supports a few Fluke DMMs. I'm not sure the FlukeView Forms is really that great an application.

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 02:28:42 pm
content: Quote from: todd_fuller on June 16, 2017, 02:11:37 pmThanks, for the info, i´ll try.Again, for my the point is, i don´t like the fake advertising info.

author: todd_fuller
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 03:52:28 pm
content: Quote from: akg on June 16, 2017, 02:28:42 pmI agree... I recently picked up a Fluke 287 and the wireless dongle. They seem to blur the functionality of the phone app and the FlukeView Forms app to make it sound like they're both more capable than they really are. Of course, you don't know this until you already have it in hand.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 04:59:08 pm
content: I still think there is something wrong. In the datasheet of the PC3000 FC it says:Fluke pc3000 FC Adapter and SoftwareFluke 3000 FC Wireless Test Tools show real-time measurements from remote modules up to 20 meters away on your PCFluke FC wireless test tools work together to help you troubleshoot faster.The pc3000 FC Adapter and Software help you understand the information you measure.When you need to get information back to a PCthe pc3000 FC Adapter and Software wirelessly collects up to 65,000 sets oftime stamped min/max/avg readings from FC remote modules.Software can display live readings from up to six modules simultaneously. Allows custom logging intervals and custom names for modules.Includes Windows SW3000 software.So the adaptor should be able to log the data, not the multimeter. Could it be that there is something wrong in your setup or using the wrong software?

author: serggio
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 05:34:26 pm
content: Quote from: akg on June 16, 2017, 02:00:11 pmProbably not.If you want logging to PC, you need Fluke ViewForm SW and ViewForm by CNX pc3000 / pc3000 FC PC adapter. Your meter supported into ViewForm SW.I do not see any drivers for pc3000 FC PC adapter, and do not understand why Fluke not so clear here, and have so stupid politic about their PC applications - no developing application, no concurrency and etc.. but you can try this device for Bluetooth to Virtual COM port adapterhttps://www.lairdtech.com/products/bt900-us

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 06:03:51 pm
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on June 16, 2017, 04:59:08 pmHi, pc3000 FC is only capable of download data and config log parameters from modules, i have iflex AC current module, and i tested.http://en-us.fluke.com/products/clamp-meters/fluke-a3001-fc-wireless-iflex-ac-current-module.htmlCan log data without anything else, them connect to laptop and donwload data.You can´t log data from iflex to laptop, same "fail" of multimeter.All of this with the SW "Fluke Connect Software."http://download.fluke.com/software/FlukeConnect/Fluke_SW3000FC_1_0_1_30.exe

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 06:22:07 pm
content: Here some photos, for entertainment.

author: serggio
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 06:27:34 pm
content: Quote from: akg on June 16, 2017, 06:03:51 pmHow your pc3000 FC PC adapter present in your OS devices? As Bluetooth or as Virtual COM Port? If they use FTDI 232RQ, it should be supported as virtual COM port by FTDI driver.

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 06:33:13 pm
content: Quote from: serggio on June 16, 2017, 06:27:34 pmas virtual COM Port.

author: serggio
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 06:34:24 pm
content: Then just download Fluke ViewForm from torrent and enjoy logging

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 07:14:32 pm
content: pc3000 FC ......not compatible......

author: serggio
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 07:16:42 pm
content: Should be... What version you installed?

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 07:38:07 pm
content: ?

author: serggio
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 07:51:00 pm
content: update it up to the latest onehttp://en-us.fluke.com/support/software-downloads/flukeview-forms-software-updates.html

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 08:16:48 pm
content: Quote from: serggio on June 16, 2017, 07:51:00 pmupdate 3.8.304 same errorwhich version do you have?

author: serggio
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2017, 09:09:57 pm
content: Same version. Not demo SW. I do not understand what your screen shot language saying

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 07:44:32 am
content: Hi serggio, the screen shot say " adaptor FLUKE pc 3000 FC (V01.02.00) isn´t compatible with this version of FLUKEView Forms..."I have this dll on my c:\.........\flukeviewforms\instruments\ folder, all same version (3.8.304), do you have anything different..Thanks in advance.

author: serggio
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 10:07:17 am
content: Hi,My DLL list the same.I can't check pc3000 FC, because I do not have it.Strange that Fluke included it in to the ViewForm SW.When I choose 3000 FC or CNX 3000 FC, SW initialized transfer at 115 200 bps thru COM port and send only one command - ID.You can check your meter response thru Hyperteminal or Tera Term at same port settings.Use standard commands:ID - Returns model, serial number, and software version information.QM - Query primary measurement displayable value.QDDA - Query Displayed DataHope you use not demo version SW. Demo version not allow connection to devices.(at my screenshot my channel mentioned as RX, but this is just channel setting in my scope. Really this is TX line)

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 10:43:12 am
content: Hi, with terminal only can see pc3000 FC, not the multimeter."CR:Ack=0:ID:FLUKE PC3000FC, V01.02.00,0"Quote from: serggio on June 17, 2017, 10:07:17 amany idea, how i can check if demo or not?Thanks alot for your help!!!!!

author: serggio
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 10:49:02 am
content: I have no idea how, instead only connect trusted device to your PC. (any supported DMMs)Or contact Fluke and ask them why they added pc3000 FC adapter at their SW?So, have you connected your meter to pc3000 FC adapter and what QM command return?

author: akg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2017, 11:19:00 am
content: Quote from: serggio on June 17, 2017, 10:49:02 amReturn nothing, but you put me in the right way.....i thinksniffer com portCode:000000: ri000001: id000002: CR:Ack=0:ID:FLUKE PC3000FC,V01.02.00,0000003: rfsm 1000004: CR:Ack=0:RFSM:Radio On Master000005: RE:M000006: ri000007: id000008: CR:Ack=0:ID:FLUKE PC3000FC,V01.02.00,0000009: rfsm 1000010: CR:Ack=0:RFSM:Radio On Master000011: RE:M000012: rfdis000013: CR:Ack=0:RFDIS000014: ME:S000015: ME:D:010000000000000016: rfebd 01 0000017: CR:Ack=0:RFEBD000018: ME:R:S#=01:DCC=012:PH=64000019: rfebd 02 0000020: CR:Ack=2000021: rfebd 03 0000022: CR:Ack=2000023: rfebd 04 0000024: CR:Ack=2000025: rfebd 05 0000026: CR:Ack=2000027: rfebd 06 0000028: CR:Ack=2000029: rfgsid 01000030: CR:Ack=0:RFGSIDI begin to collect data to see what can i do...