Hantek HDG2000B series current state - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: square circuit
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 02, 2018, 06:29:14 am
content: Hey Guys,I was wondering (after reading through the HDG2002B hack topic started by fremen67) about the current state of this generator series. After fremen's first post it was obvious that the parameters of the different versions of the generator are not documented properly on Hantek's site. It states that the highest square frequency is 30Mhz while fremen67 reported 40Mhz etc.So my questions are...with the latest firmware;What are the current frequency ranges?How stable (bug free) the gen?How is the quality of the square wave, and other waveforms?If you own/use any of the HDG2002B series, (hacked or not hacked) please share your experiences.Thanks,Kris

author: TurboTom
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2018, 06:00:46 pm
content: I bought my HDG2002B in December 2015 and have applied some modifications to make it better suit my needs (and to satisfy my curiosity...). I'm using it quite frequently since Hantek found better solutions for some details than Rigol on my other AWG (DG4102). My HDG2002B is currently configured as follows:Hardware: PCB 1004.1Modifications:- LAN interface- High frequency divider for frequency counter function and corresponding input socket- Suppressor diode to limit floating (analog) ground voltage to frame ground to 40V- Device ID changed to operate as a HDG2102B- Automatic calibration performed to have the amplitude accurate over the extended frequency rangeCurrent firmware configuration:S/W: 1.00.3.03.11 (2017/11/15)Linux 3.2.35FPGA: 90KBD: 3This isn't the most recent firmware but I found this version to be working troublefree with my hardware and to support all functions well. I don't recall to have the unit crash over the last year. Actually, currently I like the Hantek more than the Rigol, simply since changing parameters on-the-fly produces a less glitchy output.At the current price of round about 205 Euros shipped, I think this AWG is leagues ahead of all the "Feeltech's" and whatever is available of this pedigree. Of course, it's approximately twice the price of those but still at least half of anything else (new that is) that can be considered half-way decent.What modifications are worth to apply: Since I've got sufficiently decent frequency counting equipment anyway, I wouldn't add the UHF divider and input socket again. Except for curiosity's sake, I never turned that option on. Moreover, other than on my Rigol AWG, the frequency counter function on the Hantek can be considerd at best half-baked firmware-wise. So, just forget about that. The LAN interface actually is a nice thing to have -- unfortunately, it requires considerable effort to add. Only recommended for those with experience soldering fine-pitch SMT. The suppressor diode modification is something I'ld really recommend to add. I like the fact that the ground of the Hantek AWG is floating so it wouldn't cause any ground loops if operated stand-alone and connected to other earth-referenced equipment. Of course, if the USB interface is used and connected to a ground-referenced PC, this advantage is lost. But since the Hantek utilizes a switch mode power supply with RFI suppressor caps across the isolation barrier, some capacitively coupled mains voltage / current will be found on the analog ground (like it's the case with a lot of consumer electronics gear). There had been some discussion going on here if the creepage distances of the Hantek PSU are adequate for a safe operation -- I tested the AWG with a megger at 2.5kV and didn't find any problem. The (quite substantial) suppressor diode that I added between the analog ground and earth (frame) will limit the coupled voltage to 42V and at the same time still permit some degree of floating ground operation - in my opinion the best trade-off between the unmodified, original configuration and a completely new, linear power supply (what I intended to add but finally dropped the thought after the machine performed well enough like this).So would I recommend the HDG2002B as a piece of lab equipment for a newbie? No, definitely not! But for an advanced hobby user it can be quite a valuable, inexpensive instrument. For a professional, even though it matches the specs after calibration, it's just not adequate, of coure also always depending on the application in particular.There's one more issue to observe: Reportedly, some earlier hardware versions aren't compatible with the recent firmware versions anymore. Moreover, I don't know what the current hardware revision is. At least Hantek appears to continue to support the HDG2000B series software-wise wtih an update every few months which is more than what many other manufacturers may claim for them. And since the instrument is running Linux, it's not a complete "black box" but experienced users may help themselves in case of problems.I hope this information may be some food for thought to those who are considering to get themselves one of these AWGs.Cheers,Thomas

author: square circuit
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 02, 2018, 07:18:21 pm
content: Thanks Tom. What's the highest square wave frequency? How is the square wave quality...up to what Mhz does it hold it's shape?

author: TurboTom
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2018, 11:34:58 pm
content: Highest adjustable square wave frequency is 30MHz (on my modified 2002 -> 2102). Something that looks half-way like a square wave (or rather trapezoid) will be available up to 10...15MHz (measured with a "tuned" Rigol DS1054Z and 1m 50 Ohms BNC cable output-to-input w/o termination, so take it with a grain of salt). The same configurations results in rise/fall times of 15ns. I may tomorrow test again with a faster scope and proper input termination.Cheers,ThomasEdit: I just tested the HDG2002B with my "improved" MSO2074A and basically got the same figures as reported above, see attachement. Except for the amplitude, chosing proper input temination or high impedance wouldn't make much difference.

author: square circuit
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 05, 2018, 01:25:40 am
content: Thanks for the detailed info Tom. Appreciated.