Good camera for electronics youtube videos - Page 1
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author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 03:41:21 pm
content: I have a channel called "VEGEteK" and has 18 videos, but I am going to change its name and start doing videos in my language (Arabic)... That was a short into xD.I recorded videos using Nexus 4 smartphone and IXUS 175 camera which was so bad and didn't do the job. I want a true good camera, thus I found these:Canon EOS 1300D (around 320 JD only):https://www.cloudsjo.com/shop/cameras/professional-cameras/canon-eos-1300d-18-55mm-lens-kit/Canon EOS 750D: goes for around 550 JDAdd round 10 JDs for 16 GB memory card. (do I need more?)As for mic, 1300 doesn't take external one but 750 does.I want to do shooting from different angles such is shooting analog oscilloscope screen, breadboard, overhead shots (most important), shoot myself speaking... etc. So I need a tripod suitable to that.I have a small one which won't do the job, the camera shop linked above offered a long tripod for around 60 JDs with an extension for 50 JDs, which is the one to do horizontal overhead shots (shooting breadboard or table from the top...).So total cost is around this:Camera = 320tripod = 60tripod extension = 50memory card = 10Total = 440 JDsHOWEVER, the Canon 750D is far more better and does 60 fps and more quality but it is too much for me as my salary is around 400 JDs only (I have enough cash though) xD... so my questions are:1- Is that setup really good with 1300D camera?2- Should I get the 750D upfront rather than 1300D?3- Should I get external mic? this won't be compatible with 1300D?4- Can my videos be best quality for electronics (like EEVBlog ones) with only that (without mic)?5- Can I get close up video shots using 1300D of boards, components, etc..?6- What camera does EEVblog use? other blogs? Yours?7- What about lighting? can I get away with just a simple white lamp at the desk?8- Can a camcorder be better? they have this:https://www.cloudsjo.com/shop/cameras/video-cameras/canon-legria-hf-r806/Thanks for your help.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 05:32:37 pm
content: Dave Jones has listed his tools:https://usesthis.com/interviews/dave.jones

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 06:03:00 pm
content: Magic Lantern is a piece of open source software that can vastly extend the feature set of many Canon DSLRs when they are used for shooting video.It adds features when shooting video that make the Canon cameras which support it- (primarily DSLRs but also the original EOS-M ) much more flexible for serious film and photography.Some Canon DSLRs can be used to capture really superb, silky, high quality video in HD and soon, perhaps even 4K using Magic Lantern.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 06:55:25 pm
content: Quote from: rstofer on October 06, 2017, 05:32:37 pmThank you.He uses a camcorder which is +1000$ which destroys me totally. I saw online that DSLR cameras are better for youtube videos, and kinda convinced me.The only thing I need to use with 1300D camera is an external microphone, if magic lantern can do it then it is perfect! Can it be done with 1300 camera?

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 10:15:50 pm
content: You should check their web site,http://www.magiclantern.fm/but I suspect maybe not, unless the 1300 is a different name but the same camera as one of their cameras that is supported by it. (some of their cameras have multiple names in different countries)A few non-DSLRs are supported.The EOS-M which is supported, and is available for a fairly modest amount of money, used, ($200) can use an external mic and be upgraded - creating a superb video camera bit by bit.This person spent under $400 for the additions he made to it!This is what one person does.Here is another..Note the technicolor Cinestyle profile tip in the second video..----Note that Dave's statement later on in the comments on the use of non-video cameras and DSLRs to shoot video is definitely true.Its clearly not plug and play.Video does seem to be much more complicated on cameras that are not primarily designed for video.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 10:27:29 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on October 06, 2017, 10:15:50 pmI settled to use Cannon 750D which has everything including capability to use external mic.I am really confused about language, should I stick to English? or convert to Arabic which is my language. My channel is VEGEteK.Can you give me your opinion about my questions above?regards,

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 10:36:23 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 06, 2017, 06:55:25 pmAs in all things Internet, opinions vary. To quote DaveQuoteSo, it is a matter of context as to whether the DSLR is 'better'. I look to Dave's opinion because I have never made a video in my life. Dave, OTOH, has made a lot of money on his videos (according to a video rant re: YouTube he posted the other day) so I think I would be inclined to pay attention.Dave's second camera is a good deal less expensive:https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004HW7E3I/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2017, 11:18:57 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on October 06, 2017, 10:57:13 pmPlease take a look at my channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXodUSRG2__hTpW4ZgOgtcwWhat do you think? where will it go in the future?I am now confused! one part of me say I should convert to make Arabic videos which is my mother tongue... the other say continue in English and views will come.I am now about 100 views daily (2 months without making videos) and only 4 of my videos gets repeated views all the time.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:02:36 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 06, 2017, 11:18:57 pmAfter you have gone to the trouble of making diagrams, photos and other presentation material, how much effort is it to film the video twice, once in Arabic and once in English? Is there a YouTube problem with this? Can you have two channels?I don't know the answers to any of this.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:18:31 am
content: I would encourage you to keep content in English, as you are going to have a much wider audience - but I can also see your desire to support your mother tongue.I do not believe you need to choose between the two ... you can do both.Yes, it is a bit of extra work and whether that is within your limitations is something for you to decide.Options that immediately come to mind are:1. Shoot in one language, then after editing that, produce a second copy with voiceover in the other language.2. Shoot in one language and add subtitles in the other3. Do two shoots, one in each language.The choice is up to you, of course.

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:45:12 am
content: I'd be curious about this too, never really owned a proper video camera before and do have a DSLR which is great for photos and time lapses but not that great for actual video, especially because of the time limit which is easy to forget to check up on if you decide to shoot something that will last longer than 10 minutes. There's tons on Amazon when doing a search, from a few hundred bucks all the way to thousands. Wonder if the ~$300 ones are decent or not.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:46:55 am
content: Most people who think they need a better camera to improve their videos actually need better lighting. There are a number of youtubers making very satisfactory videos with phones or tablets, because they have sorted out their lighting. The real limitation with a phone is not its camera, but its mic. You probably need to use a separate mic, placed to keep reverberation under control, to get good audio.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:48:15 am
content: As far as the equipment is concerned, certainly better equipmentcan enablleyou to produce better quality material, but that is dependent on your ability to use the features effectively.Quote from: coppice on October 07, 2017, 12:46:55 amPrecisely.Sometimes it's better to have something basic that you know how to use well than to step out and arm yourself with a bagful of tech that you might struggle with.Certainly, I amnotsuggesting youdon'tinvest in this venture, just be careful you don't end up focussing on getting every technical detail perfect or you will find yourself getting lost in more and more trivial "issues" and the labour of love will turn into the labours of Hercules.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:58:41 am
content: I am just trying to learn a bit about shooting video with a non-video camera (the whole point of this is shooting "raw" which means more dynamic range and more "post production" flexibility. )So far what Ive captured is crap, really out of focus and so on. Too many things going on and its just like Dave said, its not designed for the task..BUT, it looks SOOOO much better in terms of color space and just general look that it really makes me want to learn how to do it.(taken with a relatively cheap camera, compared to a DSLR - the Canon EOS-M "mirrorless" 18 MP camera and Magic Lantern - No I did not shoot this! What I am saying is, look at the gorgeous silky image quality. Also using a very basic external stereo microphone is easy.)Time, though, - you need to spend extra time.... There are several more steps in the workflow..-------

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:07:55 am
content: Thanks for all replies, here is what I concluded this far:1- I will buy Cannon 750D with long tripod and tripod extension (for overhead shots).2- I have a cheap external mic which will do the job.3- I will buy a cheap table lamp to add lighting, cannot afford too much money on this.My place (where I work and live) is far from my home, I am in a shared room with one guy so distance is very far and I cannot keep getting heavy stuff from Northern Jordan to Southern Jordan.You got me wrong, it is not that I want luxury with these new components. The point is that I don't have enough or basic tools! I use a retarded stick to grab my Nexus phone to shoot, which clamps to the table and keeps vibrating whenever I do a thing. Buying those new tools is a must, not an option.Buying them will allow me to do nearly any shot I want, I just need some white screen if I want to shoot my self or any shot like that.Now my biggest problem is what language should I choose? I wanted to build the channel so it can be good in the future, I won't say making a living from it because this is too optimistic, but make a good channel which people watch regularly.Making both languages is not an option, this will ruin the channel and make it messy.However, right now it is not promising as only nearly 4 or 5 of my videos (total of 18) gets regular views while others are nearly frozen. I get around 100 views daily and I wonder what will make this happen (or start the road for it).Recently I got an idea to change it to my Arabic, since no channels like EEVBlog exist (onlythis oneand it is not like eevblog) but I am confident about leaving English since all world is speaking it. It is just that my charismatic Arabic talking skills do not exist in EnglishAnother thing is naming episodes, I go with "VEGEteK #001 - blah", I like keeping numbers but will it affect searching the videos? is it better without it?I even wanted to change channel name to "Raigeki" which is my favorite for various reasons ^_^ .your opinions are welcome.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:12:51 am
content: To avoid a "messy" channel - why not have two channels? One in English (VEGEteK) and the other in Arabic (Raigeki)?Very clean separation.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:19:43 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on October 07, 2017, 01:12:51 amThat will kill me, I want to get all my effort into one channel. I don't want to repeat my content.My content anyway will be Arduino and PIC microcontroller mainly... then pretty much anything else like teardowns, circuit designs, and some robot projects... etc. So it is not a niche stuff but general stuff. Which is why English is not suitable because of too many people doing it.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 02:12:32 am
content: Fair enough.While I might want to make further comments, it is not me that will be doing the work - so I won't dissuade you from following where your heart is obviously leading you.I will suggest this, though....After you have done a few videos in Arabic, examine the interest in those against the interest you have had in your English ones - and then consider which is giving you greater satisfaction. It's not always about the numbers alone.You may find the numbers higher in one language - but the sense of achievement and satisfaction in the other might be more than enough for you to want to continue along that way.It is up to you - but the main thing is that whatever direction you choose, keep it fun for yourself. Otherwise it will just become a chore and that will show through in your material.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 03:38:12 am
content: Vegetek, I like your content, I like your graphics, but you need to practice your scripts because the pauses between words sounds unnatural. You really need a voice partner. Somebody who can critique your delivery and get you to loosen up a bit. This is in English. Other than that I think its good. Your subject matter is interesting, and useful. There should be some group where people who are doing videos tear one anothers videos to shreds and make them better.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:24:16 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on October 07, 2017, 03:38:12 amThe point is to make less of these videos which takes time and effort, and focus on normal videos without scripts. This is where Arabic is better. I will not include anyone else with me, this won't happen for various reasons.I recorded an Arabic video yesterday about LM35 with Arduino, should I publish it in the channel as video number 19?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:28:12 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 06, 2017, 06:55:25 pmThey almost universally aren't, that's BS.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:33:39 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on October 07, 2017, 12:58:41 amThat's of mostly zero relevance for shooting Youtube video.Shooting and producing Youtube video should generally speaking be a least-effort solution. There are exceptions to this of course, but it's not common.QuoteThe more steps in your workflow the less chance you have of becoming a successful youtuber.My steps are:1) Think of idea2) Press record3) Drop raw video into timeline and trim start/end.4) Render and upload

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 12:56:49 pm
content: Quote from: wilfred on October 07, 2017, 12:47:05 pmWhere exactly?I will only do it for this video and will be Arabic title so that people will know.QuoteCan you explain? because I think DSLRs are great for the job.Help me by giving your opinion about my questions, thanks.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:03:09 pm
content: I can see that you're right, and thatthe idea to realization pipeline being shortwould be all-important for me too if I made videos for YT or any similar platform.Because otherwise, its too much of a PITA to share some idea. Whats the point, then, almost.------The main improvement I see for me personally is simply, more speed. The newer camera, although used and not a high end camera at all, does have a substantially more modern image sensor and processor than what I had been using.They are big advantages this new camera has over my old, for anything, even for taking pictures of electronics, because with the old camera, my lighting situation has always been a few clip on lights and my kitchen table.My kitchen being kind of dark, even at midday with the window shades open and all the lights on.Basically the Canon I am now learning how to use is several times faster than my old camera, which means I can take fully exposed, high detail pictures with no more lighting than I use normally to do anything else in my kitchen.Especially, I don't need a flash which in my opinion has always ruined the look of the shots.In natural light things look better.If I do use a supplemental light, they look much much better than flash lighting. In comparison, anything I capture with my 12 year old Panasonic Lumix zoom camera looks contrasty and flat.just because of that extra four or possibly even more additional F-stops of speed.The new camera has so many features and modes its essential to learn a lot more about the camera's settings to get even just still pictures exactly the way I would like them. And its already a five year old camera. That's how out of touch I am with what used to be a major hobby for me.The main problem with the video is focus, which the person in the video I posted addresses with add ons, so they can focus the camera manually easier. I have always preferred using manual focus in video.It would otherwise require that I either use film autofocus which I don't like because it often doesn't get what I want to be in focus or use a new tracking mode which attempts to track an object and that doesn't seem to work super well either, it hunts for focus which is distracting.So I think I will just stick with manual to start and gradually figure out what does what.I have no intention of making YT videos, though. I will be happy to just take better still images and maybe some video for myself.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:12:14 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 12:56:49 pmDSLRs have been optimised for stills, rather than video, although some DSLRs are now taking video pretty seriously. They are still weak in some key areas. For example, a video camera comes with a wide range zoom, with smooth power zooming, which can be enormously beneficial for video production. Even though you can find 10:1 zooms for DSLRs, some have weak performance, and I don't think any have power zooming. Power zoom is usually a disadvantage for stills, but its less responsive than simply twisting something by hand. For video its a real boon, as smooth zoom ins/zoom outs become trivial.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:18:35 pm
content: Power zooming with adjustable speed where the target remains in focus is really nice. Power zooming with a fixed speed can be distracting, in videos, IMHO. If zooming cannot have an adjustable speed, manual zooming might often be better. Manual focus and zooming with enlarged control surfaces to make their actions smoother.An otherwise good video that has bad auto-focusing and/or jerky zooming that distracts from the content by suddenly starting and stopping is substantially less watchable.Its much much more difficult to shoot video without those issues when starting out with a still camera for video.That's why people will often build a "rig" for a still camera, if they want to use it for video. It's to address all those issues they encounter with the stock camera as it comes.When they are done, the camera might look much more professional for video context, and its output might be much nicer, but in the final analysis, compared to a dedicated video camera, it remains a non-optimal solution for a purely video production situation for most applications.Every extra adjustable thing has to be weighed carefully, you cant just turn things on willy nilly.Each one is more often than not a time consuming extra step that most people looking for the best route to nice looking video usually don't want or need.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:23:34 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on October 07, 2017, 01:18:35 pmMost wide range DSLR zooms don't maintain focus across the zoom range, so you have to rely on the ability of the autofocus system to keep track, and even the best don't start to react until the picture has gone slightly fuzzy.I've never used a video camera with a fixed speed power zoom. Security cameras are generally like that, but not cameras designed for general purpose video.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:42:27 pm
content: With one exception way back in the 80s that really doesn't count, I never owned a handheld camcorder.. just still cameras.The price on dedicated camcorders has fallen a lot. Were I not given a chance to use this 5 year old "new" camera, which is basically somebody else's that they rarely use any more, I probably would have bought one of the Canon camcorders as a refurb or something.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:49:30 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 12:56:49 pmDSLR's vs dedicated videos cameras: (may not be current, very camera dependent, but in general)- Most cannot maintain focus while zooming- Most cannot do variable speed accelerated power zooming- Many have silly stuff like noise from the zoom motors getting into the audio.- Many lack a fully articulated screen (it'sYoutube, you need to be in front of the camera sometimes and see the screen)- Most if not all lack proper dB audio signal level meters, essential in my opinion.- Most lack proper audio features like proper manual ranging audio without horrible compression. External mic input is no good if it has fixed dynamic compression for example.- Most have crap inbuilt mics (yes good video camera's over a few hundred dollar generally have good quality mics build in if you are close enough to them (e.g. behind camera))- Most lack focus peaking- Most lack zebra stripes for exposure- Most lack dual SD cards for fexibility and backup.- Many lack dedicated buttons for often used stuff like video exposure etc.- And because they are designed for photos and not manual control video, they are just more fiddly to use to shoot proper manual video.And there are probably more, but it's almost 1am and I'm tired...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 01:54:39 pm
content: And BTW, the "fantastic" shallow depth of field offered by big sensor DSLR's camera can often be a big problem for technical video production.For things like PCB's you actuallydon'twant the nice blured focus bokeh effect that DSLR's and a good lens automatically give you. i.e. your sensor and lens can betoo good.Unless of course you are making Kickstarter videos or something

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 02:16:17 pm
content: I can't speak for other cameras but Dave is right onallof this with the stock EOS-M camera.Magic Lantern addresses much of the remainder, assuming the addition of external hardware (mounting and focusing hardware, external mic and wind shield, HDMI monitor, etc.) The extra stuff can be used to address much of the rest but it also increases the complexity in a way which likely would decrease one's video production compared to a dedicated camcorder.Even if ML can deal with much of it it still likely does require substantial additional effort because of the lack of enough and the right kinds of buttons on the camera, even though you can completely customize the menus.Quote from: EEVblog on October 07, 2017, 01:49:30 pm

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 02:25:09 pm
content: As for Camcorders, this is the only one available:https://www.cloudsjo.com/shop/cameras/video-cameras/canon-legria-hf-r806/I won't do any videos with motion like vlogs and so on, so probably I won't need advanced features. Also, I read that magic lantern is not safe to use.Can't I do the job with Canon 750D with 32GB memory card?

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 02:36:36 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 02:25:09 pmCanon is not longer seems focussed on camcorders below professional grade. Try looking at Sony and Panasonic. They have a wide range.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 02:43:22 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on October 07, 2017, 02:36:36 pmProblem is that I live and work very far and do not have enough time to search the market.Why can't Canon 750D be enough for electronics youtuber?

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 02:48:23 pm
content: There is a small but nonzero chance that it could damage your camera but as far as I know that has only happened to developers.You should always follow their instructions.Also, important.. become accustomed to the stock firmware and the typical behaviors first before trying Magic Lantern.Its quite possible that a still camera with ML may not be a good choice for you. Its not the best choice for most people.Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 02:25:09 pmThe memory card you use should be one that's capable of the capture rate you are hoping to get with it. Many aren't. The bigger they are the slower they tend to be in terms of glitch-free recording.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 02:50:56 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 02:43:22 pmA Canon 750D would be adequate, if not the best use of your cash. Your suggestion of using a table lamp is where you really need to start taking the problems seriously. A DSLR won't need as much light as a phone camera, but to get the kind of results you admire on youtube you will need a LOT of light, to minimise image noise, and reasonable control of its direction, to avoid unpleasant shadows. Both super deep shadows and no shadow at all are bad. You need to experiment a bit to get a pleasing result.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 03:32:04 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on October 07, 2017, 02:50:56 pmCanon 750D is about 550 JDs which is too expensive, but overall best quality and features. This will be last resort choice, but I took your advise and searched to find this:Sony HDR-CX405 with only 250 JDs and it is a camcorder which shoots 1080p 60fps videos like I want, actually more! However, it is said that for better 1080p/60fps I should get a SDXC memory card for that which is not available. So I will be limited to AVCHD, what do you think?I also don't know about its low light performance. However, with saving about 200 JDs I can buy tons of other stuff!Big downside is that sony hdr cx405 doesn't have an external mic which will blow things up!!So it is now Canon 750D DSLR vs Sony HDR-CX405 camcorder for electronics youtube videos... What do all of you think about it?

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 04:55:08 pm
content: I found this camcorder which seems PERFECT for our discussed features, Sony HDR CX455 which accepts external mic!https://www.amazon.com/Sony-HDRCX455-Full-Camcorder-Black/dp/B01950TERA/and with this memory card (25$):https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-microSDXC-UHS-I-Adapter/dp/B073JYVKNX/I will ask a company to buy it for me, they will take care of shipping and customs... so 450$ will be like 450 JDs if I am lucky enough. I hope it won't exceed this price.While the Canon 750D DSLR alone will cost 550 JDs! everyone here seems to agree that camcorders are far better than DSLRs, so according to them this Sony HDR-CX455 is better solution overall.Do you think this is the best solution?be honest with me, is there any other feature (needed for electronics videos as you know) that this camcorder lacks?

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 06:37:07 pm
content: If I were you I would go to Youtube and look at footage taken with all of the exact cameras you are considering, and base your purchase on the results you see people having shot.Some cameras consistently record video that looks nice, others consistently record video that looks kind of smarmy. On paper they might look equivalent.Go by your eyes.Also, you may want to buy a camera used rather than new. I would. Its a lot cheaper. Plus whenyousell it you may get what you paid for it so it will essentially be free.Also, refurbs can be really good values from some dealers that are large sellers of refurbs... BHphotovideo.com for example, sells lots of Canon refurbs - you can get a relatively new camera thats been fully checked out, so no risk, for half of what it sells for new.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 06:57:04 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on October 07, 2017, 06:37:07 pmIn my case I use a local company that does shipping and customs plus other stuff, so they only accept Amazon Prime for these stuff (they do other stuff but not this time).I gave them this list of components, first group is "essential" and the last item is a usb mic which is good if they can get it cheaply:https://pastebin.com/3tvc84KQGoing for refurbs is not a bad option but for me getting the list is better since it is cheap pricing. They get tons of stuff from Amazon prime so they charge me less, but when I get a separate order just for a refurb camera it will be added cost.Budget is tight but that list is totally fine! I expect the total list will cost up to 550 JDs (added cost for the company) but getting the canon 750D DSLR alone will be 550 JD locally here! HUGE difference.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 07:06:33 pm
content: YouTube videos come in a wide range of quality. There are the truly crappy hand-held cell phone videos all the way up to studio quality work. I'm guess that the cost of the equipment varies in direct proportion. In fact, 'direct' is probably the wrong word. I wouldn't be surprised if it was exponentially more expensive to produce high quality video.At some point it comes down to quality versus cost and what's 'good enough'. There's no reason to start at the top of the line. A more modest approach may be required. Along the way, equipment comes and equipment goes. Some stays longer than others.Try what is affordable and see how it goes. Everything has a resale value and the sale will help cover the upgrade.As to specific content: How is a site re: PICs and Arduinos going to differentiate itself from the thousands of related videos already on YouTube? What can possibly be left to explain that hasn't already been explained a couple of hundred times? There has to be a 'hook' to get people's attention.I just did a quick search for 'pic 16f timers' and there are 1880 videos on that topic. I did another search on 'using arduino interrupts' and there are 58,800 videos. It's going to be pretty hard to stand out in that crowd.EEVblog differentiates itself by scale. It has the forums, the videos, the blogs and related streams. There are Teardowns, the Mail Bag, Fundamentals Friday (my favorite), equipment reviews and other themes. Plus an enthusiastic presenter! There's an enormous amount of content and it all ties together. But it doesn't cover everything in just the video stream. There's a lot of content in the forums themselves. Specific projects, questions and answers - that is the draw for me. There are some pretty smart folks hanging out in the forums.Ultimately, you need to come up with a 'hook'.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 07:13:02 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on October 07, 2017, 06:37:07 pmBHphotovideo.com is a great resource. Many years ago (like 30), I was doing a bunch of diving in the waters around Singapore and Malaysia. Naturally, I got interested in underwater photography and BHphotovideo was the place to buy the Nikonus V underwater camera plus the lenses and strobes. Delivery to Singapore was quick and I never did get hit for a customs fee. Great company!

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 08:17:44 pm
content: The equipment I listed are not top of the line, but my smartphone videos are really not good. Plus I still need to stabilize it using a tripod for overhead shots which is crappy 3$ one. These stuff simply won't do it. Not to mention the need to record stuff on laptop too.As for the content, I've got to say that I am not really creative in getting a hook. This is a problem for me which is why Arabic content seems a good idea since there are less content than English plus quality is mostly very bad... even for arduino stuff.My best videos on youtube so far are those I created using After Effects, which is doing animation and sync it with my voice recording. One of them (episode 15) is at 4k views and gets views daily. Here is an Arabic channel and gets good views (even patreon support!):https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/wrmissaAs for English stuff here are my thoughts:- Instrumentation engineering videos: like flow meters, pressure transmitters, level, speed... etc. Explaining these stuff using photos and animation since I cannot shoot such videos xD. Maybe a series would be good.- Arduino tutorials for 37 sensor kit and other stuff: good camera will surely help.- PIC MCU tutorial series: I made 1st video.- Do some projects and explain them from start to finish.But for Arabic I can do bunch of stuff and there will be no competitors like English.Some English channels that I looked to do the same (their views seemed reachable + not native English speakers while being successful):- How to Mechatronics.- Voltlog.Some channels that I liked their method but lacked tools (especially camera):- Greatscott... especially he is not native English speaker and got successful.Looking forward to get feedback.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 08:24:49 pm
content: You know, there are an awful lot of people who speak Arabic who dont speak English. And if you do and can make what you feel is good content, and do some of them, or try them out first in your native language then by all means you should. That will give you some more experience which will help you in the long run.most importantly, do what you enjoy and feel is useful.Nobody is telling you what to do.Otherwise, IMHO, you may burn out and not do any videos.Videos are better than no videos.Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 08:17:44 pm

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 08:29:17 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on October 07, 2017, 08:24:49 pmOne of my wishes is to see localized Arabic content that is original Arabic content that is the same or better quality than English one. However, I do want to be known overall like other youtubers who are now famous and getting money from their channels... etc.Anyway here is my latest video which is Arabic:I will probably do similar videos but better quality using the new equipment.What do you suggest?

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 08:32:02 pm
content: Vegetek,Its not the camera that makes the video, its the IDEA and content which makes the video..Red Squirrel,what model camera do you have? Any "10 minute limit" sounds too arbitrary - it may be fixable.Quote from: Red Squirrel on October 07, 2017, 12:45:12 am

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 09:30:28 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 02:25:09 pmYou can "do the job" with practically anything.I could make videos on my phone if Ireallyhad to.At least the 750D has an articulating screen.Look, a ton of professional Youtubers use DSLR's, no problem. I'm just telling you that little things can matter, and camcorders do the "little things" way better than DSLR's that are not optimised for the job.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 09:32:24 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 03:32:04 pmI think you aren't looking hard enough.What about used cameras on ebay or whatever?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 09:37:25 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 04:55:08 pmNo, as always, "it depends".QuoteThe HDRCX455 has front mounted mics, not ideal for behind the camera commentary. Doesn't matter if you use an external mic of course.I use internal mic for all my behind the camera work just for convenience.I also don't think it has a proper audio VU meter, and it lacks lots of control buttons.This is basically just a low end toy comsumer camcorder.They are OK, but not great.If you had to make me pick from those two, I'd actually chose the DSLR and just deal with the small things.You can't and shouldn't just buy any camcorder because it's a camcorder.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 09:48:45 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 08:29:17 pmLooking at that (not with my usual studio monitor speakers) I'd say you don't need any new equipment, it will not instantly make your videos any better.Your image quality is fine, just get rid of the camera shack (presumably due to mounting on the same unstable desk you are using).You can make a successful channel with the equipment you have now, no question.I personally don't like the "top down" camera look, but that's me.Things like framing and changing camera angles for different shots as required ismuchmore important than having better image quality because you used a DSLR.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 09:55:35 pm
content: Even though I go into NYC fairly often I only make it into their store once every couple of years. But when I go there its just so very interesting.. They have tons and tons of stuff there. The stuff you never see out to try anywhere else.Quote from: rstofer on October 07, 2017, 07:13:02 pmI have seen HD capable Canon camcorders - refurbs, (NTSC not PAL) for sale for very little.. ($99 and $129) there. Thats really cheap.With used or refurb equipment your risk exposure if a camera doesnt work out is a lot lower. I think you will likely find as dave is telling you that the camera doesnt make the video, the ideas and content and the other aspects of the production do.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 09:57:18 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 08:17:44 pmGreatscott is successful because of several things,noneof which really involve equipment:- His cool German accent and enthusiasm- His careful choice of camera angles and shots- His deliberate use of (almost entirely?) voice-over audio in the editing phase. (It's much easier to get better and more consistent audio when you are doing voice-overs then when behind the camera recording "live" like me)- Short sharp transitions and pacing- His very careful limiting of speech and omission of detail to keep videos short and to appeal to a broader audience than other electronics channels.- Consistent video production timeline- Well chosen themes, titles and thumbnails to appeal to a mass audience.- Deliberate choice of topic (like hacking stuff) that appeals to a larger audience than electronics tutorials. If he stuck to just electronics tutorial he'd probably only have 1/10th the audience he does, that's just the nature of the market.In short, his production and editing values are what makes the difference, not his camera or equipment.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 10:10:36 pm
content: The other thing camcorders have is better battery systems. The batteries stick out the back and you can get massive extended battery packs that not only last for an entire days shooting but are also easy to change without taking the camera off the tripod.I could not live without my long life battery pack camcorder, it would drive me insane.My shoots are often many hours long and involve shooting 100+ clips, it's essential for me to have a battery that lasts all day.Also, most DSLR's cannot shoot any length video, they overheat, so will often limit you to like 20min clips. That's no good for interviews or long single take clips for example. Just something to be aware of.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 10:23:34 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 07, 2017, 09:37:25 pmI will use the external mic of course, so audio will be good enough. Having audio VU meter wasn't in my required features and since using an external mic (that connects to my shirt, I guess audio will be good regardless of the meter.What I really liked about it is the video quality. It supports up to 1080p 60fps video and with 64 gb memory card, it will be awesome. It said that it has touch screen and all options are there using buttons... so yeah I guess it is nice.Dave, you don't know my budget. Your say it is a toy and these camcorders are ok but not great according to your standards since you have way more budget than me without any comparison. However, my salary is about 400 JDs so this camcorder is about the limit of my capabilities.Camcorder (Sony HDR CX455) + memory card (64gb) + BOYA BY-M1 microphone + usb desktop mic + company payment (shipping + handling + customs + their fees) = ~550 JDs.While that Canon 750D DSLR alone is 550 JDs locally!not to mention I need to buy tripod and its extension (for overhead shots) = around 110 JDs. + a cheap white LED light = 10 JDs.I hope you know my reality and why that particular camcorder is about nearly the best option to have, unless you know a better suggestion with the same price tag which is the center point of all this.____QuoteWhat about my previous English content?The problem was the very few views I get, but sometimes I get good views like my episode 15 video. However other videos are just frozen due to the bad filming. I cannot do much with Nexus 4 smartphone as there are no specialized equipment to help. That shaky video due to cheap stick which does not stick properly. Proper tripod and its extension will cost around 110 JDs... but they do not accept smartphones.My biggest concern now is the language. I am a native Arabic speaker and sometimes I get the idea to change the channel to Arabic due to bad quality of available content overall except for Walid Issa videos which are not top of the line too.However, I also see some kinda acceptance to my English videos. Some of them are still getting views till now (regularly). So what to do?Getting new equipment will greatly help me since I can do these shots you talked about. However, I need to decide what to do about language. I explained earlier about the type of content that I have in mind for now... dunno what you think about it.QuoteYes, but he uses a good camera not Nexus 4!! he cannot achieve that using a smartphone.About voice-over, actually he inspired me to do it since I won't be charismatic speaker in English. Here is my best video overall:What do you think about it?I got 2.9K views last 28 days, +1K alone from that video... and I don't even know why?!!While this video below is far much better in nearly all terms, and does not get views:I can do such content as greatscot and afromod (voice over thing), but again, I need proper camera and tools.I added a 30$ usb desktop microphone to be able to record on my laptop since I do suffer recording on smartphone with bad quality.reaching that level of production is not impossible but it depends on time (since tools are available). However, I am living very far and don't have access to buy all these components to test and do stuff with them like he has. I live in a shared room with one guy so I don't have all the time I need to record. I do have little space (like 3 meters wide) and table as my working area.I need your advise to know what is better for me, to continue making videos in English? or Arabic?I use your theme of "EEVblog #100 - blah" naming -> "VEGEteK #010 - blah" so I wonder if it is good or should I remove naming?QuoteYeah but 20 mins are too short. I won't keep recording for hours but certainly will hit 30 minutes.As I said earlier, seems like HDR CX455 is the best choice overall.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2017, 11:18:47 pm
content: In Arabic, your videos will have a lot less competition but also a much smaller market than if you use English.I'm guessing that, in the end, this thing is about making money. If so, it would seem that the larger market would be the way to go as long as you can generate interest despite the number of competitors.Your spoken English is good enough, no concerns there.I think there is a lot to be said for a series of videos. I am watching PSOC 101 because I got interested in the chip. The series addresses a lot of topics in relatively short and focused videos. In some ways, it is the same kind of thing you want to do. Take a PIC and demonstrate all of the hardware and the required software. There is also some time spent working through the IDE.http://www.cypress.com/training/psoc-101-video-tutorial-series-how-use-arm-cortex-m0-based-psoc-4This series was planned, it didn't just happen. Each lesson uses a copy of the previous lesson project and the necessary changes are made. The LEDs that were placed in Lesson 1 are still on the diagram in Lesson 8. Sometimes the changes take a bit of time, in other lessons, you delete a bunch of stuff and just use a 'wire'.This approach saves a lot of repetition and helps keep the videos short. There's nothing worse than a 20 minute video with 5 minutes of content.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 05:43:24 am
content: Quote from: rstofer on October 07, 2017, 11:18:47 pmIt is not about money but about views and attendance. Almost all youtubers now have money income from their channels using Patreon so maybe it is about money in the future.I wanted to make a variety of stuff, not just video series. However, Arduino is the easiest to use but almost all people know how to use it. Despite that, it still gets attention.You cannot imagine how confused I am right now ^_^. One comment in my PIC tutorial 1st video of the series (and only one till now) says that this video series will be the best in youtube! can you imagine that?That sparked the idea of making video series for Arduino too and some other projects I wanna do like making a 4WD robot using Arduino and make it wireless-controlled later. Explaining it in 3 videos or so seems nice, maybe 5. So it won't take a lot to watch and does the job.So that lead me to the idea of making Arduino projects and explain them like that (from 1 to 5 videos at most), all in HD and best graphics I can do... etc.I also liked the 37 sensors kit and maybe it has 37 videos alone, despite someone else done it before.Another idea is the "practical electronics" video series, like the Arabic one made by Walid Issa where he gets +50k views for each video (100 videos total). It is about making video for each thing but this will be long and hard.As you can see, pretty much everything is already been done tens of times in English. That is why I am confused.BTW, should I keep the naming scheme as it is or remove it? "VEGEteK #111 - blah" -> "blah" ? I also intend to change channel name to "Raigeki".

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 07:54:03 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 10:23:34 pmJust because you use an external mic does not automatically mean you'll get good quality audio!As I mentioned, if the camcorder only has dynamic audio compress and not proper manual audio then your audio will suck.You also want your audio level set properly in-camera, you don't want to be adjusting in the edit.Also, lapel mics are not magic, if you turn your head you can get large changes in audio level.QuoteOr it may not.This camcorder will have a small sensor and not the best optics. And that x30 zoom comes at a price. CHeap camcorders are compromised and it won't be "awesome" just because it's full HD at 60fps.QuoteAnd you don't seem to understand that there are other options. Have you even considered used cameras?QuoteWhy are these youronlyoptions?not to mention I need to buy tripod and its extension (for overhead shots) = around 110 JDs. + a cheap white LED light = 10 JDs.QuoteCan you order stuff internationally on ebay?If you can then it opens up ahugemarket of cameras available.QuoteSorry, haven't watched it yet.QuoteYou don't understand, he would be just as successful with a smartphone.And yes, a smartphone camera is adequate if you have enough light.QuoteI think you are focusing on the gear too much.QuoteBetter gear is not going to help you much then.Good video production takes times. Especially, the likes of what GreatScott does. Afrotechmods spends30+ hoursmaking one 5-7 minute video.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 08:05:17 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 07, 2017, 10:23:34 pmI think you didn't need a camera at all for that!, just sayingYou english is pretty good, but is quite monotonic and sounds like you are reading a script. I'm not sure if that's just the your natural delivery, or it's because you are reading a script and aren't being fluid enough, or it's because english isn't your first language. Or a combination of those.What language should you use? That's easy. If you want to be successful on Youtube then it has to be in English, simple as that. It's the target market, it's what people search for in terms of keywords etc. Especially in a niche field like engineering.QuoteWelcome to the magic of the Youtube algorithm.It's a video that uses some niche keywords in the title, description, and your actual keywords I can see.QuoteIt didn't get the same views because it's not keywords people are searching for.I'll let you in on a youtube secret. The success of a video has very little if anything to do with the quality of the video or the amount of work you put into it. Welcome to the brutal world of Youtube.Even with a half million subs,halfof my daily views come from people just searching for stuff.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 08:53:56 am
content: QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteOk, I can order from ebay or any other seller platform, it is just that amazon will be relatively cheaper since the handler company has prime account and so on.Can you please suggest camcorders (used or refurbished) that fit the price of 400-500$ and still do all you said they do? If you help me with this, maybe I can see what to do. I don't really insist on new camera at all!Your Canon HF G10 is about 700$ used which is still a lot beyond my reach. I need something around 400-500$ (hopefully with shipping) that fits all your mentioned features... something that is a lot better than Sony CX455 that I had in mind before.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 09:02:42 am
content: I have seen something likeSony CX675 used for 359.89$ (+37.5$ shipping). But this is the version directly above CX455 so I am not sure if it is really making a difference.I really could use your help here, I have never used a camcorder before.there is this Panasonic HC-770:http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/panasonic-hc-v770it is about 380$ (+51$ shipping) at ebay. Thay say it has a bigger sensor than cx675 but it does only 50fps not 60fps.What do you suggest? Should I buy CX675? HC-770? or a new CX455?

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 03:18:12 pm
content: To sum up what I have searched so far, and seems the best choice till now (price is delivered to Jordan + all kinds of fees):Sony CX-675(used from ebay) = 435 JDs (after a small discount).BOYA BY-M1external microphone = 45 JDs.SanDisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC UHS-I card with Adapter= with microphone (one order for 45 JDs).USB Microphone,Fifine Metal Condenser= 41 JDs.Total order = 521 JDs.Add the following locally:tripod = 60 JDs.tripod extension = 50 JDs.white LED = 10 JDsTOTAL = 641 JDs (~ 901$ !!)I probably could get away by getting a cheaper tripod but this won't make much of a difference. getting the CX455 will be around 394 JDs instead of 435 JDs but again, it is about a better camera overall... even if it is used (but looks good).

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 04:56:03 pm
content: I also found this unused camera CX-675:http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Sony-Handycam-HDR-CX675-Full-HD-Camcorder-with-Exmor-R-CMOS-Sensor/122741677662?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649for 378 USD from Canada... how about that?it says "box opened only".

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 08:36:18 pm
content: It's hard for people to answer specific questions about a camera they have never used. Everybody who is happy with what they are using will recommend it but unless they have specific experience with one of your selections, there isn't much to say.It is unreasonable to assume other folks on this thread will look up the User Manual for candidate models and try to compare features with what they know. Worse, who knows what the Specifications really mean, no matter what it says?And then there is eBay... Who knows what you are actually getting?Google is your friend! Search for 'best cameras for YouTube video' or 'best camcorder for YouTube'. You will find sites like (plus MANY others):https://www.picochip.com/best-camera-for-youtube-videoshttps://whyvideoisgreat.com/best-hd-camcorders-youtubeIn the end, these sites will make recommendations based on how THEY use a (video)camera.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 09:24:19 pm
content: Quote from: rstofer on October 08, 2017, 08:36:18 pmActually, they have been doing it in previous posts. Dave made good suggestions and I took them to find probably 2 choices: Sony HDR-CX675 or Panasonic HC-V770 which made final choice easier.He and many others here seems to be knowledgeable about this way more than I am and that is why I ask them. Either way I am getting a used one from Ebay, that is not going to change since new ones are pricey. Sellers says condition is good and only few cosmetic wear (little scratches maybe), they are top rated sellers so maybe they are trust-able after all.Panasonic HC-V770 seems to have better pixels and effective pixels (maybe bigger sensor) but CX675 also has other features such as 60fps support. So I am waiting for Dave to comment his opinion about both since he is the one suggesting ebay used cams &_&.Panasonic HC-v770 is about 380$ + 50$ shipping.Sony HDR-CX675 is about 360$ + 40$ shipping.This is it for me, I am confident that it is one of these two. Since other items are decided (unless panasonic camera doesn't work with sandisk 64gb SDXC card which I think it does work).Peoples' opinion here changed mine numerous times! I wanted a DSLR and now look where I am! Listening to experts (even if according to their own experience) is the best thing to do for me.Best regards,VEGETA

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 10:42:16 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 08, 2017, 09:24:19 pmThe HC-v770 has 50Mbps 1920 x 1080 50P which is great. 50P vs 60P doesn't really matter much, it's a region coding thing, but get 60fps if you can.The HC-v770 also has a bigger sensor (1/3.2 vs 1/5.Both do F1.8 at the wide end, but the Panasonic is better at full zoom (understandable because x20 zoom vs x30)Both have the same res 3" screen which is ok but not great.The Panasonic has better looking top mounted mic which will be much better for behind camera work, no need for an external mic.Out of those two I'd get the Panasonic.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2017, 11:05:09 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 08, 2017, 10:42:16 pmThe only bummer for panasonic is the 50p thing, otherwise I would get it for sure... still 60fps is a good choice.Seems like all Panasonic camcorders does only 50p... However check out this video for v770:https://youtu.be/I7PID77IKEA?t=534it clearly shows 1080/60p, so I searched and found this one for conversion from PAL to NTSC which will allow 60fps:If this going to work then it is final answer! what do u think?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 01:05:32 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 08, 2017, 11:05:09 pmSounds good.There might be better value used cameras out there, but there is nothing wrong with that one.The internal mics on top are important. It's one of the reasons why I use my Canon HFG30 vs my technically much better Sony NEX-VG30 camera (shotgun mic) for my main bench work.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 01:25:29 am
content: Also, get a x10 Opteka macro lens, they cost about $20 and I use it for all my macro PCB shots you see in my videos, just screws into the front. You get distortion at wide angle, but fine when you zoom in a bit.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 09:34:57 am
content: Quotelike what exactly? I guess it is the best in that price range.QuoteI thought you use Canon HFG10, seems you updated your gear to the maximum level of "over 9000".QuoteWill it work with Panasonic HC-v770?Won't just the camera be enough for close shots?

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 03:20:23 pm
content: Check the User Manual to find the minimum focus distance over the zoom range. It may be on the order of 24" (60 cm) - like the Canon HF G40. At lower zoom, the distance can be shorter but then the zoom is lower.Bottom of page 1:https://downloads.canon.com/nw/camcorder/products/vixia/vixia-hf-g40/specifications/canon_HF_G40_specification_chart.pdfI picked that camcorder because I went looking for a G30 (just to see what it was) and it is out of production. BH Photo has the G40 in stock.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 03:51:49 pm
content: Will have to check them out, thank you.It is definitely possible to get sharp macro shots using an add on lens, that's for sure..The best results (this was in still image photography) that I ever got from any add on macro lens werewhen I took one of my old 35 mm lenses and attached it backwards to the front of my camera in front of the regular lens with the side that normally screwed into the camera in front. Heavy as hell but the optics were so much better than the alternative I had, which were basically just single element glass magnifying lenses. With the backwards Canon 35 mm + 55mm lenses... I got some really great macro photos.. much better than the diopters. (They were not good dipoters, they weren't even muticoated. A better diopter would likely work much better. But the regular lenses have better DOF and are better for anything flat (like a PCB) because they are optimized to bring everything into focus thats in the film plane.. That works to your advantage when the subject is also flat..)I used Fuji Velvia slide film, has anybody here ever used that? That was great film.. Such beautiful, saturated, silky deep colors..Quote from: EEVblog on October 09, 2017, 01:25:29 am

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 04:32:49 pm
content: Now everything is settled except the tripod and its extension to shoot from overhead!I am looking at solutions right now, but all seems pricey as hell.Here is what I got according to budget of course:Tripod 60" tall (24$)Cheap ball head (22$)Screw adapters for the ball head (6$)Bushing adapter for the ball head (7$)Manfrotto heavy duty flexible arm (37)Total cost without shipping = ~100$Handling company said the total price delivered is = 130 JDs which is expensive enough but no other choice.Remember, I need to do all types of shots especially the overhead ones. So that mafrotto flex arm is needed badly.What do you think of these parts? do I need anything else or to change anything?

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 08:59:55 pm
content: Right now pretty much everything is set, I only need Dave and the others to comment about tripod and its stuff that I posted. This is to know if I miss something or need something else.I am halting everything until I read final thoughts... lol the camera has only 2 left on ebay so you better hurry hahahaha....Estimated total cost would be something like 675 JD which is around 950$! I have never paid such amount and hopefully I won't since I won't need to. Probably I will make a video about all these items if I feel like it.Looking forward to your final opinion, please be honest as always.Thanks!

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 11:36:18 pm
content: Ball heads are generally great for rapidly changing your camera's position for still photography but IMHO they are worse than a more conventional head for video..Also, your current videos look pretty good to me.Maybe you can network with other videographers in your area and in person, try out their equipment to see how it handles and what the captured images look like.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2017, 11:52:51 pm
content: You can buy a USB sound card for around $5 which will let you lose the $40 "USB microphone" when you need to do voice overs (unless your computer, like many, has a audio input which can work with either microphone level or line level inputs) The Syba USB sound card likely has better sound quality for audio capture than many computer audio inputs, though. I use a Syba USB sound card sometimes. It has a stereo input and fairly low noise. It supplies a positive voltage to power standard condenser microphones - not the pro ones (XLR and higher voltage) , the low voltage ones.. Most computer sound inputs will power a condenser mike.If you are buying a good microphone you shouldn't need to get two of them (unless its intentionally so you can place them apart for stereo) Many mikes commonly used with video camcorders have stereo - both semi omnidirectional - pointed sideways - and directional/cardioid mikes might have stereo, which might be particularly good for video newsgathering type work, but you might do better with a clip on mike you could wear. There are also lapel-friendly clip on stereo mikes (I have a Sony one that I have had for ages, it works with my camera's audio input, and doesn't need any batteries, its powered from the plug.)A mono directional mike (might be better value for the money than stereo) might also be fine. You might want to try them out somehow in a store to see what it seems like you will use.For your own talking a lavalier microphone (clips to your shirt) is likely best. You should be able to find a decent one for a fairly modest price. (Don't be eager to spend money.)

author: Harb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 10, 2017, 01:22:53 am
content: From someone who has been in the business making TV programs for more years than I care to mention.....the main things areGood AudioGood LightingSteady shotsGood editing, keeping it down to only things that ad to the video.The only other thing I would say, is get a camera that has a manual setting, especially the focus setting......I see more video's on YouTube with focus issues than any thing else.

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 10, 2017, 03:52:10 am
content: Quote from: cdev on October 07, 2017, 08:32:02 pmI have the Nikon D7000. Just remembered limit is 20 and not 10, but it is rather arbitrary. Not sure if maybe it has to do with the memory, maybe it buffers to memory and then only writes to SD card after it's done, or something like that. Dave also mentioned that they overheat, did not realize that but maybe that's the reason for the limit. In general they probably are simply not built for it, from a cpu/memory perspective.I have found that lighting really does make a big difference for quality too, like I've taken some misc videos outside, or of the moon with my telephoto lens and the quality is always much better than indoors with just normal lighting. For short videos they definitely are viable. I tend to have a tendancy of taking time lapses more than anything though.

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 10, 2017, 03:56:15 am
content: Quote from: Harb on October 10, 2017, 01:22:53 amHahaha so true. "FOCAS YA FAK!" lol

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 10, 2017, 04:26:57 am
content: I just read its because of a tariff.. the limit is entirely arbitrary and removable..Have you read about this?http://simeonpilgrim.com/blog/2012/03/30/nikon-d5100-video-beta-testers-wanted/alsohttps://nikonhacker.com/index.phpQuote from: Red Squirrel on October 10, 2017, 03:52:10 am

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 10, 2017, 05:26:08 am
content: I think Dave uses a ball head for videos too, no other way to do flexible video shots with different angles. I added the Manfrotto flexible arm for overhead shots as well as all angles shots from over the desk where tripod will not do it.I have external desktop mic because my laptop (or any laptop) doesn't work with the jack of external mics (the 3 poles one I guess) so to ensure everything works fine, I added a proper usb microphone.Do I need anything else? should I order the parts or change them?

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 10, 2017, 05:21:49 pm
content: Quote from: cdev on October 10, 2017, 04:26:57 amThe tariff related limit is normally a 30 minute limit to meet EU tariff regulations. When cameras have other time limits they tend not to be arbitrary. They are frequently because on the limited cooling capabilities of the camera - i.e. the electronics overheats. This is especially true of 4k recording, where most cameras still can't cope with continuous operation, but its often true for 1080P recording too.

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 10, 2017, 06:14:18 pm
content: I can definitely see 4k recording on a camera not meant for it causing some kind of problem. You might be right. But also, that might be a way they get out of a discussion about an arcane area virtually nobody understands well. It also allows them to sell two cameras where onemightdo just as well, or better - with minor changes that would be unlikely to add much, if any real costs.Unfortunately I am also running into limitations of my own (lack of knowledge)As far as whether the cameras heat up more with firmware mods than without.. That would be interesting to know. I am thinking they probably have an internal temperature sensor somewhere.. so that data might be available???Also, the tariff answer agrees with what I know about other EU tariffs.Quote from: coppice on October 10, 2017, 05:21:49 pm

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 10, 2017, 06:56:12 pm
content: Ok, to sum up here is the (hopefully) full list:Camera:Panasonic HC-v770BOYA BY-M1external microphoneSanDisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC UHS-I card with AdapterUSB Microphone: Fifine Metal CondenserTripod 60" tall (24$)Cheap ball head (22$)Screw adapters for the ball head (6$)Bushing adapter for the ball head (7$)Manfrotto heavy duty flexible arm (37)Total price (with all fees) = 675 JDs = ~950$.I couldn't find any Opteka 10x macro lens for Panasonic camcorders in Amazon, all of them are for Sony, Canon, Nikon...etc.I really appreciate your help and feedback, just do it one more time and tell me your opinion about the final list in this post please. I am about to pay the dealer to get them. I just need to know if it is all good or is there anything else I should add or modify.Best regards

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 10, 2017, 10:20:06 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on October 10, 2017, 10:12:11 pmIs that for the parts? you think they are nice and complete?thanks

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 06:21:24 am
content: I have ordered the items now. thanks.

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 06:44:58 am
content: I'm not experienced with the gear so can't provide much advice, but for that price total, I hope you will be happy with the results.Once you get everything setup as you like it, it would be nice to get your opinion on the new vs old setup.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 07:41:27 am
content: Quote from: kalel on October 12, 2017, 06:44:58 amThere was no "old" setup as it was just Nexus 4 smartphone with a 2$ stick that is so crappy. I had an IXUS175 camera which was horrible for the job, also had a cheap tripod which is too short to be useful.So new setup will be absolutely better!Anyway, I would like to take your opinion on one thing which is naming youtube videos.I go with "VEGEteK #001 - title" like the eevblog videos but I see that very few channels like this and I am afraid it affects searching for videos. Should I remove tagging or continue with it?I want to change channel name to "Raigeki" so what do you think about it?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 08:01:08 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 12, 2017, 07:41:27 amNumber help with quoting old video, no need for the title.But works either way. Name and number do take up valuable title space.QuoteI'm afraid that means nothing in English. You shouldn't have to explain your channel name.Come to mention it, what does VEGEteK mean? and why the capital K? teK at least implies a tek channel.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 09:02:41 am
content: QuoteVEGE is from VEGETA and teK refers to tech. I originally wanted VEGEtroniX (referencing electronics) but it was taken by another user, so I had to change it. Raigeki is a Japanese word means lightning strike or lightning bolt, and it is a famous word actually.It is famous because there is a Yigioh powerful card holding that name... in case you played it. However, that has nothing to do with choosing it as a name... I choose it because I like it, simple as that.About explaining the name, EEVblog is even more difficult xD. Like, what is EEV? now i have to dig around until I find that it is electronics engineering video blog. Raigeki is even more obvious xD. What is Afrotechmods? greatscott? w2aew? mjlorton? bigclivedotcom? lol NONE of them even makes senseQuoteYes I know but also it takes space and maybe affecting new viewer who do not know the channel. You can say "as I mentioned in episode 30..." which is helpful but as you said it takes a lot of space. Why you chose to have it?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 09:13:23 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 12, 2017, 09:02:41 amSorry, neither VEGETA or Raigeki means anything at all to me, and I'd be pretty confident a majority of others who are not into Manga (I had too google the name)QuoteIt's not the best name, and it's a name that was not really picked, it kinda stuck. But blog is obviously blog, pretty much everyone knows what a blog is.EE is kinda obvious that it's, well, EE, as in Electrical/Electronic Engineer, the title of most engineers in the industry. It's in fact often called the "EE industry".V is video, ok, not as obvious.QuoteNope, sorry. Do a poll and I bet you most people would have to have googled it.QuoteThe only obball one there really is w2aew which is his HAM call sign.QuoteBecause I thought that a video blog had "episodes", and it kinda made sense to number them.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 09:31:24 am
content: Quoteneither does afrotechmods or greatscott. Same thing.I guess the name will not have much effect, which is proved by these names of famous channels. Eventually you are building a brand name for your content and people will know it by time. This is my personal observation after all.QuoteDo you like the name? would you have changed it back in time? I mean if you have a nice name in mind, I guess you should go with it. Of course not now after +1k episodes.Most companies actually pick irreverent names like Apple and maybe Android... eventually it sticks. I would like to think the same.QuoteWould you change it if you knew this would happen? do you really prefer tagged or un-tagged for your current channel? I see very successful channels do not number like greatscott but others do number like voltlog. Both ways can get a lot of views and both of them can get nothing.What do you recommend for me since my channel is still small?___Also, what if you want to make a video series... how do you name it?I go with:VEGEteK #020 - PIC tutorials 01 VEGEteK #033 - PIC tutorials 02 and so on... here episode tag number will do a lot of confusion! like first episode in a series will be #20 episode while the other one will be like #33! making a playlist is fine but this confusion will continue.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 05:50:01 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 12, 2017, 07:41:27 amAs someone who watches 100's of videos, I think you are on the right path by studying Dave's video naming. I am amazed at how bad video names are even from big YTers. Once people make a video they give no thought to the name. EEVblog is easy to remember and see in the title. The number is greatly useful. If the video file is saved or copied somewhere else, Dave's videos are easy to spot. Think how the files will look on a computer or in a search. Use the full space for the title. Try Google and see how the results are. You can see Dave's videos immediately. For most YTers, you cannot know who they are without going to YT.Try and search for your own videosI like (but many will disagree) are videos over 20 min. YT has two time searches, under 4 min., and over 20 minutes. I often search on over 20 min videos.Another thing I like is "Playlists". It takes time for you but it makes it easier for viewers. I am slowly changing links to Playlists in the YT List.Regarding names, I can remember VEGEteK better than the "other" name. I relate VEGEteK with a blender for vegetables (I think it is Vegamatic). I can form the word VEGEteK in my mind (I could be wrong but I still can remember). The "other" name I cannot form in my mind so there is no way I will ever remember it just as you will not remember "zdsertzdzy". Maybe you could do videos on tech use for growing crops if tech is used to grow crops in Jorden.I wish you luck and believe you are getting off on the right foot by studying Dave's methods. Also you are lucky because you are getting some good free advice from Dave.Pet peeve:QuoteYou posted this last May and there have been NO more so there is no series. If no more take out the first sentence.Thanks and good luck

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 06:14:13 pm
content: QuoteI absolutely agree! You can search for "multimeter tutorial" but If you like a channel you wanna search for "EEVBlog multimeter tutorial", so you end up putting your favorite channel's name then whatever you need later on. Good point... Maybe the non-tagged videos are easier to find but when you have a good name that people know it will be easier to find your videos. I will stick with tagging.QuoteI liked eevblog because it has educational values, which only comes with long videos. Channels like greatscott does not have any usefulness in many cases! yes! I know some people will not agree but think about it... what did you learn from a video showing a project done in 5 mins???! it is only to show off the project and eventually you will learn little info. eevblog is way much better, but other channels are more appealing to non-electronics people as they wanna see something spark and glow... but you and I know it is just an OLED display xD.QuoteLOL, by VEGEteK I mean this: VEGE from VEGETA the dragon ball character (my favorite) which many people in real life know me by this name not my real name, and teK is from tech. I originally wanted VEGEtroniX (as "electronics") but it was already been taken.Anyway, I like the name "Raigeki" a lot xD. It is a Japanese word which means lightning strike, just google it and you will find the famous forbidden YuGiOh! card with the same name... which is not the reason why I choose it.People will memorize it by time... I am sure.QuoteI will continue the series for sure. I just need to plan it properly.I have done a plan for an Arduino series for beginners, only 10 videos which I will put effort to make them good quality. I will do around 15 for PIC as it needs more explanation.In my future plan (hopefully not too far), I want to make instrumentation series and P&ID video too. Adding to all of that is the occasional teardowns and stuff.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 10:18:47 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 12, 2017, 09:31:24 amAt least they make some sense in parts."Afro" is an afro, the symbol he uses for the channel, "tech" is tech of course, and "mods" is mods as anyone in tech will know.great and scott are both easily recognisable words, and anyone who knows Back To The Future will know the reference.QuoteYes, you are building a brand.In my case EEVblog which I didn't like at first has become my "brand" and "EEV" can be used for other things like EEVacademy EEVdiscovery etc.And also in my case when I started there was practically no one doing Youtube full time, it wasn't a thing, it was just for fun.QuoteI didn't like, it was just an acronym for Electronics Engineering Video Blog, but it stuck. I would not change it now because it's my brand, it's unique, and it's versatile.QuoteIn your case they are not great names because they don't mean anything to most people unless they know the gaming reference.And also, and perhaps most importantly, they are already used.e.g. You can't buy VEGETA.com or Raigeki.comIf people google these names then they likely won't get your website, they'll get gaming reference. It will be hard for you to get good SEO.Heck, you can't even get the Youtube channel ID's because they are takenhttps://www.youtube.com/user/vegetahttps://www.youtube.com/user/RaigekiI would not use those names because of that, they are not unique enough.QuoteIt doesn't make a difference, just chose what you like.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 12, 2017, 11:00:12 pm
content: QuoteI don't.QuoteExcept that I didn't really pick it according to that reference. I just pick it because I liked the Japanese word and lightning (blue color..) in general. Simple as that.QuotePerhaps you have a point but also greatscott does not have a link... he has:www.youtube.com/greatscottlabsince /greatscott is taken, and yet he is as you know. Also, "How to Mechatronics" channel name is "Dejan Nedelkovski" which is impossible to pronounce xD.I don't think I can make a website now, I will get away with a youtube channel. Even for website I can go forwww.raigeki.netor anything since .com is taken (could be acquired). As for youtube, maybewww.youtube.com/raigekiofficialcould work. It didn't affect other channels anyway.One downside is the google search thing, which maybe is not that bad.____What name do you suggest? I cannot tolerate my desires! at all!

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2017, 08:14:53 am
content: I think it's just as important - if not even more - to name the videos in a relevant way and use proper keywords.This might be even more important for new channels, where there won't be many subscribers that get an update for your videos, but where people have to find your video by using search terms. When I search, I don't normally search by channel name unless it's a well known channel to me personally and I want to quickly find some video from that specific channel (channel search would work here too, but sometimes it's faster).I think you can get some information on what is frequently searched by starting to type the keywords in the search bar. E.g. if I write "Laptop" I get "Laptop Unboxing" "Laptop Repair" "Gaming Laptop" etc.There might be a tool that does this better. Channel creators will know.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2017, 10:10:59 am
content: Well, keywords are not really a great way to search as you could put a lot of good ones and still get nothing. One of my biggest traffic income is youtube search but also suggested videos! Some people watch videos about 4-20mA current loop or "big red button" and they have my 2 videos in their suggested videos... and they watch them.I do put a proper video name, I will just keep putting channel name and episode number in it.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 13, 2017, 10:20:09 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 13, 2017, 10:10:59 amYes, but for smaller less indexed channels those "suggested video" views will most likely be coming from your own audience watching your existing videos. That's fine of course, but it doesn't help you to find a new audience and get up in Youtube generic search results which is what you ultimately want. And that is where keywords areeverything. And I don't just mean keywords, I alo mean words and phrases in the title and the description as they all combine in the magic algorithm.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2017, 07:46:40 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 13, 2017, 10:20:09 amI am always amazed how many YTers do not understand this.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2017, 08:44:22 pm
content: Ok so how should one pick keywords?

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2017, 03:02:43 am
content: The Youtube search/recommended algorithm seems to be so odd. When Rick Roll and Trolololo was all the rage in memes I decided to combine them and made a video. Figured it would at least get lot of hits, even if it was not liked, as it was literally just mixing both together as one. I think I had called it rick trololo roll or something like that. I got it taken down because of copyright but don't think it ever got more than like 50 views. It would not even show up in search, like at all, even if I typed it verbatim.Meanwhile I made this cringy video: youtube.com/watch?v=yZ3lVdwmATw a long time ago and it is by far my video with the most views. I don't expect to get much views on my videos in general as my channel is just where I put random stuff and I don't really have a specific target audience, but out of all my videos, that has to be the one that is popular? lol.

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2017, 06:53:48 am
content: I'm not sure how exactly it works with YouTube and could be wrong, but I think that if you (anyone) simply use popular keywords that already have tons of videos made, your video will be behind those, especially as a new channel.So, the sweet spot should be keywords that are searched for, but do not have many videos already covering them. That should allow for your video to show up favorably. I don't know what happens if then a famous channel makes a similar video, that channel's video might still get better position (as that video might get more views and "thumbs up, etc") but this depends on how YouTube search works, which is not something I'm familiar with.In time, once an audience is built, this should/might help with search positioning as well.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 14, 2017, 09:21:55 am
content: Quote from: kalel on October 14, 2017, 06:53:48 amNo one does, and that's very deliberate. Because if someone knew then they would game the system as has happened in the past.Youtube have gone to great lengths using AI system to make it as game-proof as possible.But basics like consistent channel uploads, watch time, views in the first hours after release, interaction (thumbs down don't matter, it all counts), comments, shares etc all count.And the more consistent your channel is the higher you'll get ranked in the algorithm.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2017, 05:35:19 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 14, 2017, 09:21:55 amI have removed tagging from each video name, now they are as short and meaningful as they can be. I didn't rename the channel to "Raigeki" yet though. Will do when I make the next video.I originally planned to make 2 videos per week, but that is not practical as it looks like. One good video plus a short 2 minute video for a specific thing or one info, I have a playlist just for those. Right now I have planned a 10 video Arduino tutorials for beginners which I had in mind for a long time. Will do Arduino projects too as well as Instrumentation videos and occasional teardowns and stuff. So yeah, pretty much comprehensible channel but impossible to make 2 videos per week. I would be glad to be able to one per week.

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2017, 08:52:53 am
content: Just out of curiosity, what are the most time consuming parts of making a video you've found (per each video, not one time things)?Is it finding/selecting and researching the project (how to do the thing I will explain in the video and how to explain it well),or setting up the recording system (camera, light, bench organization for videos),or actually recording the video,or etc

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2017, 10:17:21 am
content: Quote from: kalel on October 16, 2017, 08:52:53 amShooting equipment are essential regardless of video idea and research. So my problem was getting a good tools to record, I had to do stupid setup many times until it fits to shoot very short stuff... then I moved to just recording audio then filter it (since it is recorder by smartphone) then do animation and stuff. So I was limited to that only.Audio recording on smartphone is not perfect as sometimes there is fault in audio (stops for a moment and so on) and then I have to get it to laptop via Wifi..etc.As for ideas, I had these ideas fairly easily and sometimes instantlybut getting to do them was the hard part. I revised my AFX skills to be able to make good stuff which took a lot. Doing animation is very hard and time consuming so making 1 video per week is so good.Getting these good quality recording set will allow me to get footage (high quality ones) easily which will make animation stuff a lot less and maybe none in some videos! I get to make whatever video idea I think of without the fear of my recording set failing me.One downside of my method is English speaking skills, which makes me repeat stuff over and over to get them right in terms of pronunciation and tone. Doing a live recording while speaking and explaining stuff is not the way to go now.. voice over is.

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2017, 12:17:37 pm
content: Can you record sound directly on the laptop, to avoid transfer?

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2017, 12:34:17 pm
content: Quote from: kalel on October 16, 2017, 12:17:37 pmOne of the items that I ordered is a USB microphone, which is just for that purpose. This will help me record high quality audio very easily.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2017, 05:05:35 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 16, 2017, 12:34:17 pmYou still seem to think equipment is the answer to every problem. A good mic will give worse results than a cheap one, if you don't take the room acoustics seriously, and getting serious is not achieved "very easily".

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2017, 05:19:54 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on October 16, 2017, 05:05:35 pmI pointed out above that I know tools are not everything but you seem to ignore it. If you put the same effort using a cheap mic then the same effort for a good mic, the result will certainly be better. The mic I got is not expensive but just good... around 30$ or so. Nothing is bad in the room to cause massive noise plus I cancelled most of it even by using my smartphone to record.You seem to think good tools are nothing important, more like you can make EEVBlog the way it is now using the stupid web camera Dave used in his first episode.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2017, 07:28:18 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 16, 2017, 05:19:54 pmIf the cheap mic is in a smartphone it generally comes with some very effective noise reduction facilities a separate mic does not have. With a cheap dynamic mic you will probably never hear things like your computer's cooling fans, unless they are exceedingly noisy. Cheap dynamic mics sounds pretty reasonable for voice, but don't generally pick up background noises very well. This can often simplify your life. Change to a good quality condenser mic might you might be driven crazy by all the background noise which appears, and it might seem like the room's reverberation has been greatly accentuated. Now you might need to drive down the background noise, and acoustically treat the room. Look at videos about Dave's place. He has acoustic tiles to tame his room's reverberation.Better equipment is generally capable of better results, but there is often a price to pay in the complexity it brings.

author: jaromir
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 07:53:26 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 12, 2017, 09:02:41 amChoosing a name that is identifiable all across the world is not easy.Honestly, I had no clue what is "Raigeki" and had no need to google it up, as it sounds like random chunk of characters. On the other hand - in this part of Europe, for decades - Vegeta is trademark for cheap food additive (mostly salt and glutamate) -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegeta_(condiment) . It is used in cheap restaurants and generally it isn't something you may want to eat too much. Ask 100 people here what is vegeta and 95 of them will tell you it's food condiment. First time I saw your nickname here I was sure you are from different part of world, but the connotations with the word are still the here.Like, I'm pretty sure my name can mean "fermented bear paws" in some language; my point is that you can't choose universally understandable and pleasing nickname.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 08:04:32 am
content: Quote from: jaromir on October 18, 2017, 07:53:26 amI followed many channels without understanding their names such as greatscott and afrotechmods, so as other electronics channels. So my main goal is not to get a universally identifiable name, and you call it an impossible which is kinda true.I picked Raigeki simply because I like it. No one knew what EEVblog even means until he watched it over and over... really. So my point is you can pronounce Raigeki and it is a simple word to read and even memorize... so by time they will know it. ALL my viewers in channel do not even know what VEGEteK means lol... but they followed the channel regardless.So the name will not be much of a difference in my opinion as long as the channel produce nice content to its viewers, which is what I want to achieve. After that, they will surely memorize its name. If I tell you there is a company called Apple that was established yesterday, and asked 100 people what does it do? almost 100% of them will say "about food"... xD. NONE of them will ever guess it is about technology, and none of them will ever know why they chose apple and what is the story behind it until they actually google it. They will only do that when they are interested.I don't compare my humble efforts to these examples, but it has the same meaning.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 10:22:58 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 18, 2017, 08:04:32 amSure, but if that name is shared with other things, then your SEO and Youtube and Google ranking will suffer.Type "Raigeki" into youtube and what do you get? - countless videos! including other channels named the same. It's averybad name to use for that reason alone, I would strongly suggest that you pick something else, your channelwillsuffer otherwise.You might not have known that EEVblog was actually an acronym for, but at least it has the identifiable word "blog", and "EE" is obvious to anyone in the EE field. It's not great but it makes sense, and the best part is it's 100% unique, no one else uses that name. Type it into search and you get nothing but my videos or talk about my channel. I managed to get the EEVblog Twitter handle, the Facebook page, the Vimeo name, the Vidme name, the domain name, the gmail account name, and countless other branded accounts because it's 100% unique. That is a BIG deal if you are designing your channel for growth.It's also fully trademarkable and enforceable as a unique brand, unlike for example Great Scott.I only learned all that later, and I was lucky I had a unique name.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 12:12:52 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 18, 2017, 10:22:58 amNice tips.However, there are different channels with common names that got successful like real engineering, learn engineering, practical engineering...etc. If you put "engineering" many videos show up. The difference is that "engineering" word will continuously get new videos but for something like Raigeki it is not the case. No one makes videos for that specific name on continuous basis. Also, great scot is a common name but it got popular only due to his content. So now when you search for that general word you will get him. Only one with raigeki name on his channel is raigeki fitness which is a german channel.I do aid you that getting a unique name is the best but I can't escape loving that name *__*. I have read stuff about youtube SEO and most of them agreed on view time, watching percentage of each video, reactions, continuity, video title...etc.I have removed tagging from my videos and I can tell there is a slight increase in views even though the channel is so small and I've been inactive for so much time (+3 months) which is not what I used to be. I think of renaming it to raigeki and see what happens. Actually vegetek is not a meaningful name either.My youtube status shows youtube search to be first source of audience, stuff like "4-20mA loop" and "big red button" which I did videos on. Some of my videos are in different playlists and shows as suggested videos for other users (not from within my channel). So maybe this means naming has nothing to do at all with it (until now).Again I do aid what you say, but I don't think the channel will fail simply for using such a name. lol other names that came to my mind is even more troublesome like Kaminari, Raikiri... pretty much my mind is stuck in there xD.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 02:09:06 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on October 18, 2017, 10:22:58 amIts clearly a blog about good old English Electric Valves.

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 04:41:56 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on October 16, 2017, 07:28:18 pmI've found a different noise problem with motherboard sound card or laptop soundcard. This depends on the model, of course, as some may come with high quality ones.If using the mic-in, there would be a lot of added noise no matter what you do (not environment noise). Even the cheapest PCI/PCI-e soundcards seems to solve that problem. I've found that some cheap USB soundcards from China can also solve that particular problem. Of course, USB microphones solve it too.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 05:45:21 pm
content: Quote from: kalel on October 18, 2017, 04:41:56 pm10 years ago the mic inputs on a lot of motherboards, both cheap and expensive ones, were pretty useless due to noise injection. Modern ones aren't too bad, though. Not as good as something like a Focusrite box, but better than most of the cheap USB sound cards.

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 05:55:15 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on October 18, 2017, 05:45:21 pmI guess I still have the noise injection problem with the built in Realtek (definitely a couple of years old motherboard, not the latest gen). Maybe they build in better stuff on the Intel compatible boards, but I wouldn't be sure unless they are expensive models. But since even as low as $1 Chinese soundcard can solve this problem (depending on how lucky you are, some have huge noise on the input, some very low), it's not a big deal.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 08:14:43 pm
content: I bought this USB mic:https://www.amazon.com/Microphone-Fifine-Condenser-Recording-669B/dp/B06XCKGLTP/I guess this is the best value for money and gives nice quality, I can use Audacity to filter the remaining noise.A friend suggested that I buy a USB cheap sound card and said this will further enhance the quality. I have HP laptop so only USB external ones will work. Do you recommend the same? do you know a cheap good enough card?

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 08:36:10 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 18, 2017, 08:14:43 pmYou might want to get a cheap "pop filter" from China or improvise one yourself. Microphones can be sensitive to certain sounds and such a filter eliminates those.I'd wait for replies from more knowledgeable folks, but my thoughts are that unlike analog signal microphones that you plug into mic-in or line-in with an amplifier, with USB microphones a better soundcard shouldn't give you a better sound.A good one might give you a better sound/listening experience, and a cheap one might sometimes have worse sound than the computer integrated ones (it depends on the model of both the usb card and motherboard), but that's a different thing.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 09:36:57 pm
content: Quote from: kalel on October 18, 2017, 08:36:10 pmA pop filter is a good suggestion for voiceovers. However, if you are recording video of your face, such a filter is usually too obtrusive to be practical.Quote from: kalel on October 18, 2017, 08:36:10 pmIf you use a USB mic you do not need any other sound card. With most USB mics there is actually no way to get an analogue signal out of the mic to feed into a separate sound card. You have to rely on the mic's internal "sound card".

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 10:37:04 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 18, 2017, 12:12:52 pmNo it won't "fail", and it's your choice, but I think you are making a mistake with that name.I've had my say and I'll stop now.Good luck.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 18, 2017, 10:40:42 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 18, 2017, 08:14:43 pmNo, if you have to do that then you are doing it wrong.Being a successful Youtuber is about optimising and simplifying your production process. The more steps like this you add to more of a chore it is to produce videos.You shouldnothave to process audio, get it right in-camera.QuoteDo not use a sound card, only use a proper USB mic.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 19, 2017, 05:15:01 am
content: QuoteYes I aim to try and do it in camera, but if there is still some noise I would have to do it via audacity. I think the external mic will do its job and if it is a voice-over then the USB mic will. Audacity is there to fix anything that remains, I will use it to record anyway.QuoteYes, I ordered one.QuoteI do not have creativity when it comes to names, and that one is what I liked.... couldn't get anything elseLet's see what happens.

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 19, 2017, 11:09:12 am
content: Looking forward to some interesting videos from your channel.And you definitely shouldn't worry too much about the technical part. I think BigClive is still using his phone or iPad or such a device to record videos, and while they are not as technically polished as some other channels, they can have great value to watch. I think he even uses the recording device to do the upload (so no transfer to PC, edit, upload process) - I could be wrong though. He does use a lot of light, and as others have mentioned, plenty of light can have a positive impact. I've never noticed any issues with the recording quality at all. You mentioned some of the first Dave's videos, and of course there's a great difference between modern smartphones and such webcams from a while ago. There are probably even decent webcams out there now as well, but there's hardly any need with a smartphone.One thing to look out for might be re-compression. If you have to re-compress the video a couple of times before YouTube does it yet again (I guess they still do it in order to have all of the resolutions), some compression issues might appear on YouTube. For some video editing, you have to re-compress the video. Audio editing without re-compressing might be possible (I remember trying a while ago with Audacity and some windows tool called Avidemux) but that might or might not cause compatibility issues or even desync, I can't vouch for the process.I guess those with professional cameras use raw editing, which allows them to have only 2 compression cycles. 1 to prepare the video for YouTube, and 2 by YouTube itself. I guess the only way to do the same with a Smartphone would be to upload raw/unedited video. But is it such a big deal? Possibly not.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 19, 2017, 11:23:53 am
content: Quote from: kalel on October 19, 2017, 11:09:12 amAs for video re-compression, I am kinda a pro in this. I use tools such as Avisynth to manipulate video and use x264 to encode (not crappy gui). I edit the raw video and output a "lossless" video which can be tens of GBs (same as raw video) which is 100% quality. Then use mentioned tools to do the final encode to 1080p with great encoding settings.Avisynth can be used to filter the footage, especially with lots of noise ones... such as my recordings with nexus 4 xD. I remove noise and do degrain and many stuff, then output a lossless video then do final encode.So I do lossy encode only once.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 22, 2017, 04:13:39 pm
content: My new equipment are 2-3 weeks until I get them. Episode script is nearly ready.However, naming the channel is what I think of right now. Dave made me re-think everything since I need a website in the future and so on... So here are my suggested names (which are available .com and youtube...etc):Thundertronics (there is a youtube channel without s)ThundertronixRaitronixVegetronics (someone has the same but with x)are these kinda suitable for electronics?Any suggestions? xD

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 22, 2017, 05:17:39 pm
content: To me personally, Vegetek you have already sounds better than the proposed names. But that's just me, and to you or someone else another name might sound better.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 22, 2017, 06:05:25 pm
content: Quote from: kalel on October 22, 2017, 05:17:39 pmThe problem is that vegetek.com is not available, which kills it.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2017, 09:03:53 pm
content: I need something that is not reserved.I check this website:https://www.namecheckr.com/Still thinking, but what do you suggest? should it include "tronics" or similar in it?

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 23, 2017, 09:35:55 pm
content: It can include tech, electronics, tronics, electro, etc, but doesn't have to. It's actually difficult to recommend a good name.And there's never something "optimal" for everyone, so at the end of the day perhaps pick something that you like, andif possiblesounds related to the content field.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2017, 05:16:27 am
content: Quote from: kalel on October 23, 2017, 09:35:55 pmTrue.So far I've got nothing better than Thundertronics. I could getwww.thundertronics.comtoo since it is not taken. I liked Raigeki a lot but as Dave said, it is not a unique name.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2017, 05:25:42 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 19, 2017, 11:23:53 amIf you have to regularly reduce/remove noise (whether video and or audio) then you aren't doing it right. Post-production noise reduction should never be a regular requirement. It should only be necessary for special cases. It is more fiddly, it takes more time, and it reduces the quality of the video and/or audio. Refine your production process to use adequate light and proper microphone technique. Good lighting and good audio are VERY important and they do NOT have to cost a large portion of your budget if you are clever. Lots of people obsess over expensive gear and ignore the less costly parts that actually contribute MORE to the quality of the production.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2017, 06:17:26 am
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on October 24, 2017, 05:25:42 amI agree on your opinion, but I am not like you said. I do noise removal with avisynth for video when it is not that good in terms of shooting gear and lighting... which was my situation for previous videos. To solve this issue (and pretty much every issue), I ordered a new good quality gear.With new camera and setup I can buy a cheap white light to eliminate noise as much as possible. However, if there is any of it remaining, then I know how to properly remove it.I spent a lot of time using avisynth for anime fansubs encoding (which is way much harder than real life footage) so this is my preferred method... Let me remind you that even a good video is not gonna remain that way if you use bad x264 settings. Yes, Handbrake makes it easy but you should read about these so called "profiles" and what they have, because those who made them knows absolutely nothing about x264 such as all GUI makers.To sum it up, my next videos gonna rely much on camera itself with the external mic. I don't plan to use any software enhancements. Ironically, all this is determined now and is a matter of time for the new stuff to arrive, my real issue now is channel naming!

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 24, 2017, 09:00:41 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 24, 2017, 06:17:26 amI finally settled to encoding the final video using ffmpeg directly, without any GUI. There is plenty of info about each possible ffmpeg option.Remember that Youtube will re-encode it again, so keep quality as high as you can.About the channel name, my channel is named as per my Blog, ElektroQuark, go figure... As they told you, look for something unique, you haven't to resume channel contents in the channel name.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 07:51:17 pm
content: Quote from: ElektroQuark on October 24, 2017, 09:00:41 amX264 is better than ffmpeg, it is the best encoder for H.264 codec and pretty much simple compared to ffmpeg. Use a modified version if you know new features (especially aq-mode=3) which allows you to get better quality than mode 2 and of course mode 1 is the best but it outputs huge file size (not adaptive).I encode the 1080p video then upload it to youtube, then youtube encodes the other resolutions. For audio, I get the .wav one (lossless) from recording devices then use QAAC to encode it to AAC. After that, I mux them with anything that outputs .mp4 such as YAMB. MP4box is good but it is a command-line based, since YAMB already using it then it is enough.Using After Effects or Premiere pro to output the final video is tricky because they don't use x264 but uses their own H.264 encoder with .mov container which I don't prefer.As for naming, I settled on Thundertronics for now after thinking of MechaThunder for a while... xD What do you think?

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 08:16:09 pm
content: Thundertronics makes me think of some high voltage stuff (well, Thunder), but otherwise I don't see any problems with it.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 08:32:28 pm
content: I personally like Real Engineering channel and their videos are just perfect, with only 2 videos per month which is also suitable. Yet they got huge subs (more than eevblog! and greatscot) in relatively short time!!This made me conclude:1- People like short videos (4-8 mins).2- People prefer animated content more than footage-based, along with a nice script. this was proven by real engineering channel.3- make videos appeal to other people. meaning, not just electronics engineers and hobbyists.4- Quality matters! I know some people differ but it really matters cuz you subscribe to a channel if you know they do only 2 videos per month with high quality and you watch them, but you won't watch a weekly video channel if quality is not good.5- avoid "vlog" type channels, like unboxing, overview, mail items, "I got this" type of videos, random subjects...etc. EEVblog is a variety channel but it is too old and famous. New channels doing the same won't have much viewers.6- You can do repeated content if you do it good. Best example, arduino tutorials and projects. You will get many views even though 1000 video exist on the same topic if you did a very high quality and informative video. Which I intend to do.7- Content variety is good too. Like doing one arduino project then make a short video (with animation via afx)... just don't make it random. This is what I like to make since I am good with AFX and Arduino\PIC.8- Be informative! I am already good with this as I go straight to the point. No need to explain all code or go over all details or "how I wired these pins"....etc. This would make a 15 mins video be 5 mins.If you have other tips please give them to me.___channels that I like and aim to make content like them (not everything they do is ok with me though):1- Real engineering.2- How to Mechatronics.3- Great scott!._____QuoteIt is the only thing I ever came with after weeks of brainstorming (with my brother too). xDOnly Thundertronics or MechaThunder! both have "Mechatronics" as a part of them xD.I have 0 creativity in these stuff, so only thing I like or think about it is: Lightning, Thunder, Vegeta, Japanese stuff, Islamic stuff, thunder and lightning again lol. No creativity at all.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 09:45:31 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 27, 2017, 07:51:17 pmMuch better than the other name that I cannot spell or remember.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 10:53:23 pm
content: Perhaps it means something in Arabic(?), but I can't see "VEGEta" without thinking of that foul Aussie sandwich spread stuff. It is not a positive association.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2017, 11:58:16 pm
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on October 27, 2017, 10:53:23 pmActually Vegeta is my favorite character in Dragon Ball, thus it is my nickname. Some people in real life call me Vegeta rather than my real name. Yes it is like that!However, VEGEteK is like vege from vegeta, and tek is from technology.Now as we settled on Thundertronics, these issues are goneunless you have another name which includes thunder or lightning in it (I don't even know why I am so attached to this!) and no one took it before.

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 28, 2017, 10:47:54 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 27, 2017, 07:51:17 pmThis is a no sense. ffmpeg uses x264 for encoding. What am I missing here?

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2017, 01:30:04 pm
content: Quote from: ElektroQuark on October 28, 2017, 10:47:54 amFFmpeg does tons of stuff, one of them is encoding h264 videos using libx264. x264 is an encoder for h264 and has more options than ffmpeg. ffmpeg has its own h264 encoders and decoders but there was no meaning for reinventing the wheel so they allowed using external encoders such as x264 via libx264.Now x264 may not come with ffmpeg so you need to get it, also there are modified versions of it which include many features that are not guaranteed to be in ffmpeg. x264 is actively developed separately from ffmpeg so it does not need anything. So you may use ffmpeg but I recommend using x264 directly and also use modified versions such as tmod.Don't rely on any wrapper tool or frontend, just go to the tool itself. ffmpeg is nice and libav is nice too, but as for encoding h264... you should just use x264-tmod directly.

author: ODPG22
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 31, 2017, 09:48:04 pm
content: I do computer hardware videos and have grown pretty quickly but currently I use the T3i and am wanting to upgrade. Do you guys prefer the 70D or the T7i? This posthttps://turbofuture.com/consumer-electronics/Best-Budget-Camera-YouTubemakes me think that the T7i is the better option but I've heard otherwise before? Thoughts?

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2017, 09:50:20 pm
content: Quote from: ODPG22 on October 31, 2017, 09:48:04 pmGive us your channel link.From what we discussed here, DSLR are useless for video channels... get a camcorder.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 31, 2017, 11:50:18 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on October 27, 2017, 08:32:28 pmYes, but the Youtube algorithm does not any more, it values watch time more than ever.QuoteNot really. It'sconsistencythat matters the most.If you want the highest subscription to view count ratio then you need to be 100% consistent in the type of material that you give people with every video.This is why channels that do the exact same style of video every time get the best sub-view ratio when they release a video.QuoteNo, it's actually bad for subscriber to view ratio as I mentioned.When people know exactly what they will get when they get the new video email notification they will be more inclined to press play."Variety" channels like mine have low subscriber to view ratios, but it means that I am not limited with what I can do on my channel. Hence my channel is much more flexible than other channels in what I can offer in term of video content.Channels like Real Engineering can't just go and do an interesting interview video, or a teardown or something different and expect their subscribers to like it.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 01, 2017, 06:28:42 am
content: QuoteHow do you know such info?short videos are watched more, so maybe the viewer will see the entire video all the time. My successful videos are the same, try searching for "emergency stop button" and you will get mine as first one. also "4-20mA" gets mine as fourth. Both of them are short.QuoteI didn't say it is not. But in my opinion quality still the most important.QuoteReal engineering releases 2 videos per month which is kinda slow but effective as you explained. You won't be "locked" for such content forever but also you should not make it a variety channel like eevblog. Sweet spot is in the middle (more towards same content).QuoteYes, I noticed that. Many channels already exceeded you in very short time due to that.Flexibility is an advantage of yours but try to think of it... Can new channels do this and succeed? I think not... which is the point. EEVblog is known for this variety content and people adapted with it. Whatever I do in my channel, I won't compete at all.However, if I do short videos with voice-over and do them properly (after effects + illustrator) then I will get fansjust see my emergency push button video and the quality of animation and rate it... my next videos are going to be at least as good as this.I want to make arduino based videos too and I already planned a course for beginners.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2017, 08:38:15 pm
content: I have received all the equipment thank God!The camcorder (Panasonic HC-V770) has great quality and it is already setup on 1080p @ 60FPS, so no need to change region and stuff like that. The only problem with the video is just that lighting shows some flickering (most likely from my Neon light in room ceiling) so gotta find a solution to that. The camcorder has a light of its own but it is point light and not suitable.Any cheap solution for such lighting problem?

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2017, 09:39:53 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on November 19, 2017, 08:38:15 pmLED work lights or LED spot light inside of clamp on reflector holder. I guess turning off the neon is not an option?

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2017, 10:05:25 pm
content: Quote from: ez24 on November 19, 2017, 09:39:53 pmI could get a table LED lamp or bright white lamp.. will it work?I could not shut the neon down since it is the only light in the room xD.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2017, 07:47:53 pm
content: I tested my new USB mic and it was a pleasant to use, very easy and high quality.However, there is always a background noise since my room is in company's township (which cannot be changed). I managed to reduce laptop's fan noise by using power saver plan (cooling = passive), but room noise is still not that usable.I did a noise reduction via Audacity and the result is kinda nice. Can I call it a day like this?

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2017, 08:41:21 pm
content: There are little microphone recording boxes that use sound insulating foam. I can't remember the exact name, but thosemighthelp if you need one. You could of course make one with some foam. Some people tested covering themselves and the microphone with a sheet or blanket for a quick solution, I guess it does help with noise but does not sound comfortable.Actually dynamic mics might pick up less noise but I think condenser is the standard for PC recording.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2017, 09:35:49 pm
content: This is my mic:https://www.amazon.com/Microphone-Fifine-Condenser-Recording-669B/dp/B06XCKGLTP/They advise getting this:https://www.amazon.com/Dragonpad-USA-filter-Studio-Microphone/dp/B008AOH1O6/ref=pd_bxgy_267_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=E0D7Q58XWK2JXD64DFYE&dpID=31Sz567jKfL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=detailWill it help? since it is used with many mics.However, I guess you meant this:https://www.amazon.com/Stagg-WS-S25-B5-Windscreen-Microphone/dp/B0025YKD8I/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1511213578&sr=8-23&keywords=condenser+microphone+foam

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2017, 10:21:38 pm
content: I finally found the name of what I meant, it is called a "microphone booth box" and can be DIY as well but you would need the right foam.A pop filter (the first item type you linked below your mic) is useful to prevent clipping/distortion when you say things like "p/peh" loudly/close to the mic, but cheaper ones are available on eBay. The second can do a similar job and it shields from some wind, but neither will really filter outside noise effectively. A booth box might help more, but you should definitely see some reviews of people that actually tried it before considering.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2017, 10:41:33 pm
content: Quote from: VEGETA on November 20, 2017, 09:35:49 pmThat thing is called a pop filter because it can greatly reduce the popping sound you can get from the rush of air as someone starts to talk. It will also catch any spray from your mouth as you speak, keeping the microphone clean. It won't directly help with background noise, but it may let you get closer to the mic without creating these annoying popping sounds. That would raise the volume of your voice relative to the background noise. If you want to keep the mic out of view while recording, this strategy won't work.Quote from: VEGETA on November 20, 2017, 09:35:49 pmThose filters help reduce the rushing noise caused by wind across the microphone. The are aimed at outdoor users of microphones. In a room they do very little.More directional microphones help with background noise. Look up "rifle mic". These are highly directional mics, generally used for picking up voices from a significant distance, typically while outdoors. Background noise can be a huge problem there. They can sound strangely dead when used indoors, as they may pick up so little of the room's ambience (i.e. reverb). You could add reverb back electronically if a highly directional microphone is the only way to eliminate your background noise.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2017, 07:18:59 am
content: QuoteI see people doing that but no one posted a measurement of noise before and after. I would need to buy that type of foam which makes buying a ready-to-use one a better idea. I wonder if normal foam can do the job?QuoteBuying other components is not a welcomed idea now, no need for it anyway. I have an external mic for my camera but my concern is for the USB mic for recording voice-overs.Using Audacity made it better really but I wonder if other professional youtubers actually do the same, or they just record and publish without filtering the noise? I wounder how they do it. Dave's sound is really good and this makes my question more sensible... how can he achieve this?

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2017, 11:24:24 am
content: I think it's far easier to reduce post processing that you have to do to a minimum. An exception could be a simple process that you can put inside some type of macro/automate. So that it as close as possible to record, transfer, click or type "process-my-video videoname" and get a result file.But regarding the booth box, you could check some videos on YouTube to see if it could help (as well as various ways to build one), but it seems mostly aimed at focusing on your "direct" voice (straight to microphone), and removing reflections/reverb of your voice from the room coming back to the microphone. Since in this way it "focuses" on picking up your voice, I assume it will remove some background noise as well, but I have no idea regarding how effective it will be and what frequencies it will remove (I don't have one). So it may or may not help much.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2017, 12:23:58 pm
content: Quote from: kalel on November 21, 2017, 11:24:24 amDoing this noise removal via Audacity is ALL I do in this regard. Takes 30 seconds or so. You can check my previous videos to hear the voice recorded by Nexus 4 then filtered like that. Now I got better microphone so it should be better.Plus I am planning to do one video each 2 weeks (at least for now), so I am not like those who do weekly videos and want to achieve perfect efficiency.I am good with After effects so I can do whatever I want in it especially editing clips THEN do effects, so no need for editing program. However, since now I will get a lot of video footage then I need to use Premiere Pro! This is the only thing I need to learn now which will cause delays and stuff.That was for footage-based videos like tutorials and so on, but what about animation-based ones? This one is using After effects as main software (which I am good at) but here I will use Illustrator too to make nice shapes which will need learningTL;DRThere is no shortcut and no "perfect way" to do anything.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 12:50:05 am
content: here is the result:please list your opinion.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 02:37:58 am
content: Quote from: VEGETA on December 11, 2017, 12:50:05 amResult of what? Can you summarize what is going on. It has been a long time.Glad you do not start out with a music video. I have gone through 1,000s of videos and almost all videos from the mid-east and India start out as a music video. They literally want to make me scream. It is a pity because a lot of them try really hard to make a good video. Somehow their mind set is on music videos and they think any video needs to start like a music video. So I am glad your "music video" is not at the beginning and it is short.Can you zoom in on the data sheets, I cannot read them.Good to see that you are sticking with it and letting others know what is going onSo give a summary on all the equipment you got.thanks

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 03:06:45 am
content: The voice over is perfectly fine. For me, the only slight issue (potentially) is the thunder logo sound. Is it louder than other sounds? I did not verify this, but a sudden "bang" could be problematic on headphonesifit is loud.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 03:19:43 am
content: Also I suggest you name your videos like Dave does. It really helps if someone downloads your videos. It will help you in the long run. Dave makes a living off of these videos so he does things right, learn from the master.Name + Number + Subjectand use the full field so searches find you easierWhat is going on with the new name. I remember you picked a really crazy name (that no one could remember) that everyone told you no and you picked another name (which was reasonable) ? Your current name is easy to remember, so have you decided to keep it?

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 06:18:26 am
content: QuoteI have bought camera and shooting gear to use in my videos, this video is the first using them. Panasonic HC v-770 camera + tripod + ball head + lav. microphone + USB microphone + other stuff = around 900$ or so xD.QuoteWill do next time.QuoteI will try to adjust all sounds in next videos for sure. Personally, I love this thunder sound (especially this bang one) ever since I was a child!! yes, it is a famous one... first time hearing it was in Mortal Kombat defenders of the realm openingafter that I was hooked for life.QuoteActually, most reviews and channels do not suggest this. I was pro tagging like this but now I am not. Greatscott, afrotechmods and mikeselectricstuff for example, they don't use it. Actually, almost no channel use it except eevblog and some other ones like voltlog.For eevblog it is now totally useless as I myself don't remember episodes number and will always revert back to searching the name for the one I want. dave chose the tagging for a reason, which is now not that important.thanks for your advise.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 08:49:29 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on December 11, 2017, 07:55:12 amMaybe quoting videos using numbers is a good way but numbering takes a huge amount of title space! Imagine if I would write "Thundertronics #001 -" in front of all video titles! It REALLY messes things up especially for new channels like mine.EEVblog is different than any other one. Even dave himself does not really defend tagging so much as he wrote above.You mentioned those who do numbering... what about those who don't? they are way much more and has more viewers.any opinion about the video?

author: kalel
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 09:39:47 am
content: I noticed you've done a lot of editing in the video. Sure it will be time consuming, but the result is nice.Some of the video is grainy, I guess lower light for the camera so it has to compensate with higher ISO? However, I don't really mind grainy personally. Even movies sometimes have added grain to look grainier. So, not really a problem, but this is something that can be noticed.

author: VEGETA
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2017, 10:43:50 am
content: Quote from: kalel on December 11, 2017, 09:39:47 amGrainy video is due to poor lighting, which is bad for youtube. However, human eyes prefer grainy picture\scene (= more details) than flat one with no details. details are always good, the bad details are the ones we don't want... which are called noise. If I could enhance my lighting and shooting skills then I will take the step to encode more professionally using x264 which I am good at.I used Premiere pro with After effects, I am good with after effects so it made my work easy. The best feature in this is I could substitute a portion of the sequence in premiere pro with an after effect composition! this is what I did mostly and it is a very power feature.