dso2000 series rigol and DSOX2012A agilent - Page 1
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author: ant17
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 14, 2013, 10:03:16 pm
content: hi guys i am trying to decide which scope would best for me as i am after a scope that would give me the best bandwidth and features for the price i want to keep the price to a minimum i am currently doing alot amateur radio circuits but i do also digital mixed digital analog circuits

author: tru
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 11:24:34 am
content: I was in the same situation in March 2013. In the end I chose the Agilent DSOX-2012A because of the controls: pushable knob, control knobs for each channels, free WaveGen, and partly Dave's awesome review style.Value for money I would say Rigol. You should also have a look at Tek DPO 2000 series which has 1Meg samples as standard.I think your best option is to look at pros/cons and decide on what you think is important.DSOX2012APros- free WaveGen (make sure purchase says this when you buy it), doesn't come standard- casing is a sexier design (not that it is important, but could be a deciding factor for some)- provides software upgrades (although some of them overpriced) of things like bandwidth- high 50k waveform/s update in certain timebase/scaleCons- although spec says is 100k sample memory, it can only export file of 50k samples for a channel, this make it sound as if they've cheated by saying 2x port channel total = 50k x2 = 100k, but it is really just 50k per channel. Some ppl on this forum says it is capturing 100k sample per channel in running mode, but how did they confirm this?- no dots mode- no LAN port as standard- 4mV vertical sensitivityRigol 2000 seriesPros- supports dots mode- large 14Meg samples memory- LAN port as standard- 1mV vertical sensitivity- high 50k waveform/s update in certain timebase/scaleConscan't think anyYou should also bear in mind that some cons are not really cons for some people, e.g. deep memory or LAN, did we ever complain about this with analog scopes (they didn't have any)?

author: KTP
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 11:46:30 am
content: As a pro for the Agi, they now come with 5 year warranty.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 12:49:18 pm
content: Quote from: ant17 on July 14, 2013, 10:03:16 pmIf price is your overriding concern, the Rigol is cheaper and offers bang-per-buck.You'll need the new Rigol 2000Z to get similar mixed signal capability to the Agilent.The Rigol also does not have a 4 channel option if that interests you.

author: ElectroIrradiator
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 02:20:00 pm
content: Something else to consider: If you are seriously into building and designing RF ham gear, then the bandwidth of your scope almost cannot be high enough. As a very rough rule of thumb, then you want 10 times the bandwidth of the signal you wish to examine. If for instance you want to look at the waveforms in an RF amplifier, then the actual sinewave shape and any distortions can be very important. (Mostly you also want expensive, active probes to do this, but this is the same for both scopes.)A least the Agilent 2000X series allow you to buy a low bandwidth model to limit your initial outlay, and then upgrade up to 200 MHz later if you end up needing it. Same thing in regard to adding the integrated logic analyzer option at a later date. Not sure if that even makes sense from an economy point of view, yet it might be worth checking if the Rigol models of interest offer a similar upgrade path.

author: lgbeno
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 02:42:38 pm
content: Just received my Rigol 2072 last week and I'm very impressed. Before this I was a loyal Agilent user of mso7000 series and have also used dsox2000 series. Of course that was at work and the rigol was bought with my own money.Bang for buck, Rigol is awesome especially considering some other breaking new happening on this forum about that series...I find the user interface Layout agilent like too with dedicated vertical scale adjustments per channel as well as a selection/intensity knob and another large general purpose know.If you don't need built in wave gen and are ok with 2 channels and no Mso, rigol 2000 all the way. Ds2000-s (built in wave gen) will be available in September too as well as ds1000z (4 channels & wavegen)

author: shailesh3t
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 03:27:03 pm
content: Quote from: lgbeno on July 15, 2013, 02:42:38 pmHI Lgbeno ,kindly let me know from where did u buy the oscillocope i mena from which company and how long did it take to come to your place, if you dont mind let me know how much it isthanks shailesh

author: lgbeno
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 03:53:41 pm
content: Quote from: shailesh3t on July 15, 2013, 03:27:03 pmI'm in the US, I bought it for $788 from Tequipment.net with free shipping. Bought it on July 5th and it was at my doorstep on July 11th. Very satisfied, just ask for the EEVBLOG discount!

author: shailesh3t
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 03:59:20 pm
content: Quote from: lgbeno on July 15, 2013, 03:53:41 pmThx Lgbeno

author: ant17
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2013, 11:08:02 pm
content: ok thanks guys for all that information

author: DavidDLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2013, 11:18:31 pm
content: Now that you can open all the options on the Agilent, you need to think twice.There is a separate thread on how to do that.David.