do i have to ask permission to use other companies electrical in my product - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Isaac Clarke
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 14, 2022, 05:51:49 am
content: I was wondering if companies in your country who make control panels or switchboards would have to ask permission for example from schneider to use their MCB, RCBO, etc. in the control panel or switchboard they are making and selling to a customer?If so, could the same be said for if someone made a powerboard like this below and sold it but had a schneider or clipsal MCB, RCBO, etc.or would you have to hide the logo or the entire component?DISCLAIMER: Anyone reading this, do not take any of this as legal advice, consult a professional.

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2022, 06:24:57 am
content: I haven't seen anyone make any efforts to hide any logos on industrial control panels, power boxes or any other sort of application where a logo of a manufacturer of a part is visible. And in most situations where there is a visible logo it's made impossible by the manufacturer, see:https://sk.farnell.com/siemens/6av6647-0ad11-3ax0/hmi-panel-6-inch-24vdc/dp/2530159

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2022, 07:45:06 am
content: It's more if you make misleading claims and misrepresent them as your product in any advertising. You also may be seen as distributing them if reselling to dealers, but I doubt that if you sell them as part of an installation package. I think you can get around a lot of potential issues offering one of two competing brands installed.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2022, 07:52:14 am
content: Quote from: Isaac Clarke on February 14, 2022, 05:51:49 amBy that logic, we’d have to ask permission of every electronic component manufacturer before selling a product that contains a component bearing their logo.Anyhow, look up the “first sale doctrine”, I think it covers the majority of situations.

author: SmallCog
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2022, 09:47:21 am
content: Ask permission?Haha in the world of switch panels and industrial controls the company representatives hassle you to buy and use their productsWhat we try to avoid is companies using my workplace choosing to use their products as a selling point. We don’t like a company to include us in their sales pitch, “you should buy our xxx because zzz uses them in their cabinets”

author: Kleinstein
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2022, 09:57:51 am
content: As long as the parts used are genuine there should be not problem in having the logo on them. It is more of the opposite that removong the logo could be a problem in some areas. They put the logo on there products to be visible and not to be hidden or removed. When using possibly fake components this could however by a problem and the use of the fake logo could fall back on the one who integrates those parts.

author: m98
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2022, 12:38:14 pm
content: Relabeling any integrated products might void any certifications they might have from the original manufacturer, so that's only something that should only be done in cooperation with the OEM. Other than that, all electrical components are made to be integrated into some larger system by some form of commercial entity. So unless you want better volume pricing, there should be no need to inform the manufacturer that you're buying and integrating their products.