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author: RHA_33
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 11, 2016, 09:21:59 am
content: Hi,I am new to buying EE lab equipment (for home use) and I was wondering why some very simple items at USA Company websites are listed as "Non-Exportable", such as these IPA solvent dispensers:http://www.all-spec.com/products/Soldering_and_Rework|Liquid_Dispensers_and_Accessories|SOL-13/?filter=MDR8MDNfMDV8MDI%3D%0D%0A&coo=y&x=100&i=1Why is there national security interest in keeping these Menda products in the USA only? What happened to Free-Trade? I live in Canada btw.Cheers,Rob.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2016, 09:41:23 am
content: There are many reasons why a company may not be able to export some of the things it sells. A common one is they only hold the distribution rights for a particular country, and are not permitted to grab business from distributors in other countries.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2016, 09:50:43 am
content: Quote from: coppice on January 11, 2016, 09:41:23 amYeah, that's the main one.If it's not to do with encryption or thermal imaging then its probably just a distribution rights thing.Also some companies just cant be bothered doing the extra paperwork needed for intl orders.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2016, 10:12:04 am
content: It is probably flammable, dangerous product or something like that. So they cannot put it in an envelope and send it with airmail.But dont worry, US of A does that. My favourite, when an ST (French-Italian company, production there) part cannot be shipped by Digikey to Belgium, because it has encryption.

author: Alexei.Polkhanov
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2016, 09:02:06 pm
content: Quote from: RHA_33 on January 11, 2016, 09:21:59 amI have seen these bottles in local electronics store in Vancouver they are also available on DigiKey:http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/35494/16-1185-ND/3645062.All-spec is store that shows "made in america" flags against items. I have to say that makes bizarre expression. It is probably owned by some 90 y old, dumb ass, "save America!" Texan Nazi who wears a gun when he goes for groceriesI actually loved them when I was ordering stuff for my business in US - they have nice customer support run by nice, knowledgeable, English speaking humans! They are dying breed like dinosaurs, not sure it is good or bad thing.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2016, 09:23:59 pm
content: I disagree - I don't think anyone stating an actual fact like "Made in USA" is a redneck gun toting nazi, but just selling something that has a reason for costing more than the made in China stuff. Same as anyone who sells stuff made in Germany, UK, Switzerland, and even Japan nowadays that once held the poison chalice of cheap rubbish that China has to break out of now.Of course the salesmen will use tactics like this when in fact it is only the assembly, not the manufacture that is done in the country. But generally it is advertising higher quality, and higher price justified by more expensive and skilled labour.

author: manzini
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2016, 10:19:37 pm
content: A single Beaglebone black buyed on Mouser to EU need a previous export control form signed.The same BBB black buyed on EU-Farnell nothing.

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2016, 10:35:10 pm
content: Quote from: manzini on January 13, 2016, 10:19:37 pmAs importer, you have certain responsibilities when it comes to ITAR materials, just like many other classes of goods. When you purchase from inside your economic zone you aren't importing.I agree that a BBB should not be subject to weapons trade controls, but currently it is.

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2016, 11:27:16 pm
content: Everything from that gun totin' shootin' yeehaw state of Texas Instruments requires a massive document to be acknowledged multiple times before you even get a free sample. Bonkers - and perversely it seems to be implemented by the so called conservative libertarians that claim to believe in less/smaller government.

author: theatrus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2016, 06:03:00 am
content: Quote from: Macbeth on January 13, 2016, 11:27:16 pmI abused the heck out of TIs samples in college more than 10 years ago. Sounds like they clamped downSent from my iPad using Tapatalk

author: manzini
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2016, 07:19:55 am
content: Quote from: helius on January 13, 2016, 10:35:10 pmYes, because you can buy a more power cell-phone or little computer from US without export-control

author: Alexei.Polkhanov
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 14, 2016, 07:13:46 pm
content: Quote from: manzini on January 14, 2016, 07:19:55 amYes, because NSA has already bugged/tojaned your cell phone but not your BBB

author: RHA_33
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 18, 2016, 09:24:52 pm
content: Quote from: Psi on January 11, 2016, 09:50:43 amYeah that makes sense, as far as distribution rights themselves make sense (thinking about video media now). Just didn't expect such things to have distribution rights restrictions between USA and Canada.@Alexei.Polkhanov Thanks for the DigiKey link, that looks like what I want (minus the lid).Cheers.

author: RHA_33
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 21, 2016, 10:46:53 pm
content: Quote from: Alexei.Polkhanov on January 12, 2016, 09:02:06 pmActually, for Canadians it is important (to a degree) to know if your products are made in the USA (or Mexico) instead of elsewhere in the world, due to NAFTA Free Trade agreement. It effects if you have to pay dutyor not. Though as other trade agreements get signed this could change, though who knows how - I am not an expert in importing products or with trade agreements.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2016, 12:11:36 am
content: Quote from: Alexei.Polkhanov on January 12, 2016, 09:02:06 pmFortunately those exist.It would be a sad world if we could only buy from a store selling 'made in russia' products, owned by a 90 year old vodka swilling drunk, who constantly talks about how much better it is in 'mother russia'. All the products he sells are built like a tank , but are made from radioactive steel and only available painted red.Or a store that exists just long enough to grab your money and send you fake , relabelled , or lead filled rohs parts , using china mail which is always 4 weeks late due to new-years festivities) devices are packed in styrofoam (no antistatic bags) , wrapped in old newspapers. if you are lucky you may find a firecracker or a packet of soy-sauce in the box as well...When you complain the store has long ceased to exist and the owner has since started, and stopped, at least 20 different stores.Or stores, where you can only buy rudimentary resistors, packaged per five , sold for 3$ per packet under a house label called 'archer'

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2016, 01:45:44 am
content: I have 6 of the cheapo's off ebay. 3 yrs old no issues.http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=Alcohol%20Dispensing%20Bottle&rt=nc&_pppn=r1&LH_FS=1&_trksid=p2045573.m1684