AI(machine vision/obj detect): Hailo-AI by MS - Page 1
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author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2024, 11:26:09 am
content: I don't know if it is already available for purchase, my colleague received somehailo.aisamples.A couple ofMini M2modules, which somehow sound like an alternative toCoral-AIIntrigued, I searched for documentation(1) and found some already published exampleshere(rpi5).In practice, talking about themachine vision class, it's an accelerator for real time recognition of complex objects such as people, cars, trucks, etc(1) I am not planning to use it on a rpi, but rather on a MIPS(2) based router.Anyway, found documentationhere(ai-kit) for rpi5.(2) only MIPS32r2/le, maybe also LoongArch, but no chance to make it running on MIPS4, MIPS5, MIPS5++, Loongson

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2024, 11:27:20 am
content: Anyone ?

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2024, 10:00:21 pm
content: Yes as you hinted, there's already a "hat" for the RPi.https://github.com/hailo-ai/hailo-rpi5-examplesYou probably realize that you're the only one trying to port brand-new tech to MIPS platforms.What do you want to do with AI on a router?

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2024, 10:39:53 am
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on June 05, 2024, 10:00:21 pmit's basically a M.2 PCIe expansion.If a SBC already has it, you are ready.

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2024, 10:41:50 am
content: Quote from: DiTBho on June 05, 2024, 11:27:20 amRegardless of the ("nonsensical", LOL) things I am doing: is *anyone planning to use* this solution for projects?Any type of hw is allowed, even an RPI5!

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2024, 02:32:49 pm
content: none

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2024, 03:24:55 pm
content: Solution looking for a problem ?

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 12, 2024, 08:03:23 am
content: Quote from: Bud on June 11, 2024, 03:24:55 pmfirst you have to make the module work, easy on RPIv5, not easy on other platforms, and before that, meanwhile you have to study how the code works, and it wouldn't even be bad to rewrite the support to take advantage of more NPU modules.

author: Rijad12
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 16, 2024, 04:56:59 pm
content: We can buy Hailo-8™ M.2 2280 module at eShop of AAEON Technology Inc.However, Hailo-8™ M.2 2280 module has possible 26 TOPS performance and is hencemore powerfulandmore expensivethan Hailo-8L which is sold as part of Raspberry Pi hat.You can see both here:https://hailo.ai/products/ai-accelerators/

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2024, 05:42:16 pm
content: Quote from: Rijad12 on June 16, 2024, 04:56:59 pmI'm working on integrating it into a MIPS-based project.I don't know how many people buy it, and if it's mostly sold for RPI-only, but I'd like to get both.At worst I use RPI to "copy" ideas and working-code, then replicate it on other platforms.

author: Rijad12
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 16, 2024, 09:16:19 pm
content: It is not restricted to Raspberry Pi.I put that Hailo-8 M.2 Module to M.2 slot instead of my M.2 SSD, and it recognized Hailo-8 on PCIe interconnect (I was booting Linux from USB stick instead of SSD).Hailo-8 has Model Zoo (look at their Github account) with some examples.Maybe it would be resctrictive that for training of neural networks you need some kind of Debian-based Linux running on Host-Computer, with either x86 or ARM based platform. Other platforms like MIPS or RISC-V are for training not yet supported. I do not know for inference yet, if there are less restrictions.

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2024, 09:50:28 pm
content: Quote from: Rijad12 on June 16, 2024, 09:16:19 pmI didn't say it. I said it needs support. x86 and RPI already has it "kernel-in-tree".On MIPS I have to fix stuff from the ePCI up.Quote from: Rijad12 on June 16, 2024, 09:16:19 pmPython needs some extensions on Gentoo/MIPS and HPPA. This is the second type of thing I have to "copy" from Debian, Raspbian etc.-What is you final application?How much did you pay for your module?

author: Rijad12
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 17, 2024, 04:59:56 pm
content: I was thinking if it could be used in some industrial camera, but I am only experimenting with it so far.Hailo-8™ M.2 2280 costs 220 USD at AAEON Shop at the moment.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 17, 2024, 11:26:14 pm
content: To paraphrase a famous singer:Baby, I can feel your HailoPray it won't fade away