Question best drive read/burn DVD - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: classicsamus87
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timestamp: December 24, 2020, 10:16:13 am
content: for burn/read mdisc dvd and dvd verbatim azo is better drive ASUS or Lite-On or LG? for best reading, best burn, best correct errors? is better buy drive external USB or Internal SATA for store this drive in the future i use read/burn my discs? descontinued manufactures drives USB or SATA in future?I thought about buying a bluray drive but it is very expensive here in Brazil

author: MK14
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timestamp: December 24, 2020, 10:47:14 am
content: Please confirm you are NOT a bot, and are Human and/or a Troll.By answering what 1 + 2 = ?

author: classicsamus87
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2020, 11:47:27 am
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author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2020, 11:53:26 am
content: DVD Archive disks, are designed for very long life storage times.Normal writable DVDs, are not 100% reliable and can suddenly fail (become unreadable).https://www.amazon.co.uk/Verbatim-UltraLife-Archival-50-Disc-95355/dp/B000H3B6EODVDs are gradually becoming obsolete, these days.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2020, 08:43:08 pm
content: As regards your exact question: "Question best drive read/burn DVD".I don't think attempting to buy the "best" long lasting DVD drive, now is a good idea. Because the market for DVD burners, has reached its end stage. Whereby DVD burners have become very commonplace (almost everyone, who might get one, has already done so), and usage/interest/new-versions, has somewhat stopped now.I.e. They are gradually going the same way as crt TVs/Monitors, 5¼ inch floppy drives, 3.5 Inch floppies, audio cassette tapes, vinyl records, etc.I.e. the technology has matured at this point in time, and sales are gradually disappearing. As they get replaced by various things such as blu-ray discs, USB flash pens, SSDs, various online technologies e.g. Netflix, cloud storage, etc.I suspect your best bet, is to buy a commodity DVD burner, and when/if that breaks, get another. Also seriously consider moving over to a later and more modern technology.Ideally, store your data/backups, using multiple (different) mediums.tl;drPeople probably can't really recommend a "BEST DVD BURNER", for you. As it is a gradually disappearing technology, these days, in most countries.But, out of the limited DVD burners, available now. There probably is a recommended/best one to get.At a guess, maybe an internal (PC), ASUS or PIONEER DVD burner, is the best option.I've had limited/bad experience with LiteOn, which is why I'm NOT recommending them.External USB DVD drives, seem to take second place, in my limited experience of them. But they are a relatively cheap/easy/convenient, way of having extra DVD drives, especially on very small computers/laptops, which often don't have DVD slots/drives, built in, these days. As they are gradually becoming increasingly obsolete and/or replaced by external USB DVD drives.Even blu-ray discs, have never really reached a big/huge market penetration. Partly because (my opinion), SONY (or the blu-ray disc) right holders, charged too much, for other suppliers to be legitimate blu-ray devices, and there are so many other options available on the market these days (Netflix, big USB flash or SSD or HDD drives), and other online things.tl;drPeople are inherently lazy. So "discs", such as DVDs/blu-rays, are relatively unpopular, compared to online things or big internal drives, rather than having to find the disc, take it out of the case, walk to the computer/device, and take the old disc out, and put the new disc in, and put the old disc away, etc.Hence the success of Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, etc.Increasingly, the new way is SSD drives. But sadly there are concerns about how long they can reliably retain their data for, especially when the drive is unused (not connected to electricity) and/or lots of data is written to it.

author: nctnico
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timestamp: December 24, 2020, 11:36:37 pm
content: When I use CD-ROM and DVD-ROM (rarely nowadays) I found out that the most reliable disks are burned at the slowest possible speed.However nowadays I would recommend to use backup medium which is always powered on. Like a hard drive. I have a large drive in my PCs which has a backup and a backup on a NAS. The beauty is that a disk going bad doesn't happen unnoticed and all data is always safe.

author: classicsamus87
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2020, 12:00:44 am
content: the DVD drives are becoming obsolete and in a short time they will not be manufactured anymore so I want to buy one now and save it but I don't know if I choose ASUS, Lite-On, LG these 3 have M-DISC supporthave any advantage in purchasing internal SATA DVD reader / writer drive and not purchasing an external USB drive?

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2020, 01:04:53 am
content: Quote from: classicsamus87 on December 25, 2020, 12:00:44 amIf you go for M-DISC, which sounds like a good idea to me. 1,000 year life-time, is rather a long time, for humans.So, maybe get a good external/USB DVD (blu-ray if affordable) drive (then it can work with most computers without any internal compatibility or messing about, needed), for creating the M-DISCs now.Rather than worrying about 'storing a DVD drive' for the future.Because in, for example 10 years time. Blu-ray discs, will probably be affordable to you then (in 10 years time, if not well before then), and blu-ray drives, will usually (I believe, but feel free to check), still be able to at least read (not sure about write), to DVD media M-DISCs.tl;drDo you really need to worry about getting a preservable DVD drive, when future blu-ray drives (hopefully affordable in Brazil), should be able to read your DVD type M-DISCs ?Summary:Cheap M-DISC compatible external USB DVD drive now, burn/make your M-DISCs, with your stuff/data on them. Google reviews, to help choose.Keep that USB DVD drive, as it might work in 10 years time.In 10 years time, use that preserved DVD drive and/or (now cheaply available in Brazil, hopefully), blu-ray disc drives, which can be purchased in 2030, if the DVD drive fails to survive lasting that long.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2020, 02:05:50 am
content: If you are serious about archival use, then get a burner which supports M-DISC:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISCAt the top of my list of DVD burners are the Lite-On IHAS324-17 and Optiarc AD-5290S-PLUS because they seem to have the best support for reading back the condition of the burn. Considering their cost, you could get one of each or whatever replaced them.On my latest system I am installing an LG WH16NS40 Blu-ray burner and a Lite-On IHAS324-17.

author: classicsamus87
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2020, 10:14:19 pm
content: have any advantage in purchasing internal SATA DVD reader / writer drive and not purchasing an external USB drive?

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2020, 10:57:51 pm
content: Quote from: classicsamus87 on December 25, 2020, 10:14:19 pmFor making your MASTER/MAIN/ARCHIVE DVD discs, I think internal writers, is going to be a little bit better than external USB drives. (Gut feeling).I think internal drives use to be the clear winner, over external USB drives. But, USB has got generally better and better, over the years. USB/USB2/USB3/etc.With faster and more reliable speeds, higher current (or at least power wise, via voltage boosts), and better operating system support.But internal, is probably still a bit better. But some popular computer types these days, such as very small computers or laptops, don't have internal DVD drives, and can't have them retro-fitted.As there is no room/provision in the case.For many people, DVD use is getting rarer and rarer (as you can use alternatives, such as bootable USB Flash Pens, for Operating System Installs). So, occasionally plugging in an external USB dvd (or blu-ray) drive, is their preferred or only (laptops/mini-PCs) option.tl;drFor making important/critical (at least to ones-self) archive disks, internal drives, probably still has the edge, over external drives (but external can be so good these days, I stand ready to be corrected, here).

author: classicsamus87
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2020, 12:41:16 am
content: Do you recommend internal DVD reader / writer recorder? is it possible to adapt it to use on USB or does it impair reading and burning?are the internal components of the internal drive more resistant?

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2020, 01:30:16 am
content: Quote from: classicsamus87 on December 26, 2020, 12:41:16 amWith the ones I've seen, they are a bit different. The internal DVD drives, are full sized, and I presume full functionality.But the external DVD drive(s), I've seen recently. Have really been small (laptop type) DVD drive elements, in small cases, with USB interfaces.I feel intuitively (but don't know for sure), that they are not quite as durable/functionally capable, as the full sized, internal units.You can, in theory, get USB to SATA interface cables and/or equipped boxes/cases, ready to install your DVD drive into. But, unless essential (e.g. because you get a laptop, in the future), is probably an inferior method, to properly installing it into a proper PC computer case.E.g. Because it won't benefit from the proper fan cooling, available in a quality PC case.In general, heat (less fan cooling) = Shorter component life, less reliability and maybe poorer quality recordings (speculation on that last bit, I don't know for sure, but usually as a rule of thumb, HEAT = BAD, Cool = Good).Yes, I suspect the internal drive would last longer (be more durable), than a laptop type external USB drive.On the other hand, the DVD internal units these days, seem to be designed down to a low cost, rather than designed for durability/reliability/quality.In fairness, the approx $20 they can cost, is not much for them to make it a very reliable, very long life (durable), super robust item, as that usually increases the cost, potentially considerably.

author: classicsamus87
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timestamp: December 26, 2020, 02:16:20 am
content: this cable sata usb is god for drive internal? good burn?

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2020, 02:34:31 am
content: Quote from: classicsamus87 on December 26, 2020, 02:16:20 amIf possible, it is best to avoid using external USB cable adapters (e.g. USB to SATA), because they are more things to go wrong, and mess up your writing or reading experience. Also, the writing drive, may not get the full power, that it needs to do its job properly (i.e. limited USB current capabilities and/or poor quality external power adapters).But, if you have moved away from full sized PCs, and only have access to laptops, tablets and mini-PCs, most of which don't have DVD or blu-ray drives, built in (with some exceptions, which seem to be getting rarer and rarer these days).Partly because of lack of room in the case for them, and partly because users have somewhat moved away from using them, often.In which case, it might be an option.Also as a rule of thumb, external USB cases, seem to be a better way, than using USB to SATA adapter cables. But, your actual experience might be different.Cables have a tendency to wear out, especially if a very cheap lead, with poor stress relief.They can also more easily, be accidentally knocked over, and damage the connected devices.The cables might be good if (once and for all), you want an IDE to USB cable, to quickly get old data, off an old hard disk drive. But for longer term uses, externally cased USB to SATA (or IDE), units are probably more robust.But still not as good, as an internal to the PC, setup.Also, cable solutions, might not be recognized by your operating system, and/or software you use, and could need special driver software. I.e. There could be compatibility issues.

author: classicsamus87
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2020, 03:02:12 am
content: What do you recommend? have shopping links?

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2020, 03:08:15 am
content: Quote from: classicsamus87 on December 26, 2020, 03:02:12 amGiven that Brazil, has different product availability, pricing structures, and you have your own preferences, for your favorite suppliers, I can't really give you links.Hopefully, the various posts in this thread, by all the posters, will enable you to choose for yourself, what to get.if you still have concerns, I'd suggest choosing, for yourself, what seems like the best solution(s). Then posting it here, and others may comment on it.Many websites, have user star (*****) reviews, on the buying pages. that can help choose the best items to get, as well (but be careful, not all reviews are truthful/correct).

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2020, 09:44:32 pm
content: Quote from: classicsamus87 on December 25, 2020, 10:14:19 pmI took a serious look at that a couple months ago because the case ended up with for my new system only has two 5.25" bays instead of the planned four. The problem was that external 5.25" enclosures are no longer common or inexpensive so unless you lack available bays, the internal configuration is much less expensive. Also my previous experience with external 5.25" enclosures is that their power supplies tend to fail.What I almost did was buy a small computer case with a suitable number of external 5.25" bays and convert it using a USB hub, ATX power supply, and USB to SATA converters, but at that point I might as well just built a tiny PC to hold my 5.25" optical drives and use a network connection.

author: langwadt
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timestamp: December 27, 2020, 12:39:58 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 24, 2020, 11:36:37 pmlat time I had to read some (burned) CDs the only thing that sorta worked was an ancient 4x drive, anythingnewer and faster was just pointlessly spinning up and down and failing

author: classicsamus87
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2020, 09:49:36 am
content: I’m confused, I don’t know if I should buy an internal drive and use a USB / SATA adapter or buy an external USB driveI think the adapter cannot reduce the performance of the unit because it may have burning and reading errors but using the drive outside the PC is very interesting but there is a problem with fragile USB

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2020, 10:26:24 am
content: Quote from: classicsamus87 on December 28, 2020, 09:49:36 amI suspect you are using language translation functions, such as google translate. This is making it significantly harder to efficiently understand, the proper details of what you are trying to say.Assuming the above, are there any internet resources, in your native language, which might solve that problem ?

author: classicsamus87
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timestamp: December 28, 2020, 10:36:28 am
content: no here is the best

author: BravoV
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timestamp: December 28, 2020, 10:45:08 am
content: Quote from: classicsamus87 on December 28, 2020, 09:49:36 amExplain what and why you think that way ?

author: classicsamus87
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2020, 11:07:25 am
content: I'm in doubt if I better buy an internal drive and use a SATA / USB adapter or buy an external drive that is USB

author: BravoV
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timestamp: December 28, 2020, 11:08:13 am
content: Quote from: classicsamus87 on December 28, 2020, 11:07:25 amIf I say just buy internal drive, would you agree with me and buy it ?