Wanted/Buy Pickit2-3 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Towz
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2012, 05:24:24 am
content: Hello, I've been looking for a pickit2 o even 3, but cant find one locally. (Starting up a lot of end term projects)If anyone has one not being used or willing to let goplease reply with price and shipping fees to Peru.Thanks

author: bdivi
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2012, 12:39:16 pm
content: bought that a couple of months ago, ships worldwide and works too :-)http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=21

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 19, 2012, 06:19:05 pm
content: Why pay $20 for a fake?

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2012, 07:03:22 pm
content: Quote from: alm on June 19, 2012, 06:19:05 pmVERY well made copy. After all, the schematics are all over the webThe original costs like 40$ ?

author: Towz
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2012, 02:08:52 am
content: thanks for the link, will take a look atit might be a fake but if it works fine should give ir a try

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2012, 06:58:53 am
content: Quote from: Towz on June 20, 2012, 02:08:52 amthey also have the pickit3 clone at 25$ and people say it's still OK

author: caroper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2012, 04:09:13 pm
content: Quote from: alm on June 19, 2012, 06:19:05 pmNot a fake, PICKit2 is open source.Most of the non Microchip Versions tend to omit the Field Programming ability and the adjustable power supply, to cut down on cost, but they work OK as a bench Programmer.PICKit 3 is a different mater, Microchip never released the Schematics or the Source Code so they are all reverse engineered units and have no claim to 100% comparability. You take a risk of it not being compatible with new firmware releases.CheersChris

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 20, 2012, 08:51:49 pm
content: Quote from: caroper on June 20, 2012, 04:09:13 pmDo you have a link to the license? I don't think I've ever seen them use the OSHW logo, or anything similar. Did they also release the rights to the PICkit trademark? Theirtrademark pageappears to suggest that this is not the case.Regardless if it's a fake or clone, the support, design (did Microchip also release PCB artwork?) and parts are going to be inferior. I would get the real thing for the maybe $15 extra that Microchip charges.

author: T4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2012, 12:40:24 am
content: Quote from: alm on June 20, 2012, 08:51:49 pmThere's no license for open source !

author: caroper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2012, 09:28:33 am
content: Quote from: alm on June 20, 2012, 08:51:49 pmWell if you wish to be pedantic about it then no they did not use the Logo but as the source is published on the Microchip web site and is open for any one to download, please forgive me for calling it open source. Here is the link:http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1960Maybe you would prefer this definition:Quote from: wikipediaCheersChris

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 21, 2012, 11:45:01 am
content: Quote from: caroper on June 21, 2012, 09:28:33 amNo license means all rights reserved by default. The Open Source Initiative and OSHW initiative state specific requirements for licenses to call it open source. One of them is permitting redistribution of derivative works. None of this is implied by default. If Microchip has released these rights, then they have hidden it fairly well.Quote from: caroper on June 21, 2012, 09:28:33 amYes, offering the source makes it technically possible to do these things. This does not mean it is allowed, especially commercial use.

author: caroper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2012, 01:46:34 pm
content: Quote from: alm on June 21, 2012, 11:45:01 amBut Microchip themselves have made available, on there own web page, derivative works in the form of the UART Tool and the Logic Tool. Surely that is sufficient to prove that Microchip not only do not object to derivative works but actually embrace them.Add to that the fact that they have not prevented any one from selling derivative works would again imply that they have no objection.But this is an electronics forum, lets leave the legal debates to the lawyersCheersChris

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 21, 2012, 07:09:58 pm
content: Fair enough, but lets leave terms like open source for projects that explicitly use an open-source license, like CC-BY, GPL or BSD-style, and not dilute it by using it to refer to other projects that tolerate distribution for the time being.

author: whonline
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 22, 2012, 01:01:12 am
content: I bought a Pickit3 from Sure and used it with MPLAB to program a few micro's. It seemed to work fine. I went the cheapskate route because I already have a couple of ICD2's and didn't really need another programmer. I bought it because I was interested in trying the "programmer to-go" functionality. When I tried it on the Sure device I couldn't get it to work. Has anyone else used the "to-go" feature on a Sure Pickit3? I was left wondering if I was just doing something dumb or if it doesn't work.Thanks,Walt