I am now living in Germany, where do you Germans buy your components? DANKE! - Page 1
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author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 10:14:06 am
content: (Hello) Servus,I was the past 3,5 years in USA where I enjoyed the stunning ebay.com (without insane overseas shipping costs, damn I miss it so much...) and all the amazing deals you can get over the internet. For new parts Mouser was my friend and everything was OK.Now here in Germany I am kind of lost, Mouser requires 60€ min order for free shipping (otherwise 20€, thank you...) and Digikey is not too far away.Here what I got (so far):For small orders, SMD only and not a huge component selectionLow shipping cost to EU (3,5€) [Thanks toCrashO]smdshop.nlFor small orders, low shipping costs (not huge component selection)www.conrad.de(high prices but they got some parts hard to find elsewhere, they also got a few shops in major cities)http://www.reichelt.dehttp://www.tme.eushipping is 5,90€ netto within Germany. passives, generic silicon stuff like opamps, bjt etc. Relatively good prices, very quick delivery (DHL).www.voelkner.deis quite cheap, and offers zero shipping, at orders >25€ and "direktüberweisung"http://kessler-electronic.de/They always shipping with "Warensendung" cheap but slow.http://www.distrelec.de/payment via iDeal (Dutch online payment), their catalog is not that big, they don't stock everything, OK for hobbyistsOverall decent (decent shipping costs and part selection)http://de.farnell.com/in Germany you need to be a registered EU VAT customer to buy therehttps://www.hbe-shop.de/Farnell for non-commercial, private customershttp://de.rs-online.com/web/For "big" orders (about >55€) and huge component selectionhttp://mouser.de/http://www.digikey.de/For older rest materialshttp://www.pollin.de/shop/index.htmlPollin sells old overstocks and cheap-ass stuff for silly low prices. You can even buy mystery-bags full of old rubbish. Like a bag of old television PCBs or stuff like that, very good for old cablesWAITING FOR MORE FEEDBACKShttp://www.octamex.deas I did order there several times. Best prices in Germany on cheapish soldering tools (Ayoue, zhongdi...), only few components but high quality and hard to get stuff for home PCB fabrication like laminating sheets and PCB-Material in several colors.http://www.csd-electronics.de/Some microcontroller stuff etchttps://www.buerklin.com/Their website and service got much better in the last 2 yearshttp://www.segor.de-> A good shop to find rare itemshttp://www.elko-verkauf.de/-> A shop for Low-ESR Elko setshttp://www.watterott.comhttp://www.octamex.de/shop/index.phphttp://rosenkranz-elektronik.de/-> A great shop for test equipment! High price...http://stores.ebay.de/TECHNO-CENTER-SCHMITT-ELEKTRONIKhttp://www.elpro.org/is often cheaper than most of the other suppliers if you need more than 1 piece.http://www.pinsonne-elektronik.de/www.csd-electronics.dehttp://www.elpro.org/(located in Darmstadt, Germany)For those who can understand German, there is a wonderful list here:http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/ElektronikversenderforPCB Manufacturingseehere.I am tempted to collect/group orders from different germans EEVBlogger in order to go above the magic 55€/60€ limit and then reship the part over DHL to them (20€ saved each time for each partecipant).Let´s see what you guys do... thanks in advance for all the help.... I´ll try to update the OP with yours feedback.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 10:27:21 am
content: For small orders, smd only and not a huge component selection.smdshop.nlis a good one. Sends most stuf in padded envelopes (and packs the parts in small plastic tubes so they don't get squashed) so is pretty cheap on the shipping front. (2,50 NL, 3,50 rest of Europe)

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 10:28:44 am
content: ThanksCrashO, Info added to the OP.

author: madires
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 10:35:18 am
content: Conrad is quite expensive but they got some parts hard to find elsewhere. They also got a few shops in major cities. I'd recommend Reichelt.

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 10:47:53 am
content: http://de.farnell.com/help-angaben-zur-lieferung/?ICID=glo-pro-ndd*5,95 € Versandkosten bei Bestellungen unter 55 € mit einer Lieferung in der Regel am nächsten Werktag.Kostenlose Standardlieferung bei Bestellungen ab 55 € in der Regel am nächsten Werktag

author: wiss
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 10:51:22 am
content: http://www.distrelec.de/?ELFA was a swedish retailer that got bought out by some larger company, they now go by the name elfa distralec here and I guess that distralec sell under very similar terms. (http://www.elfa.se)ebay.de can be very useful for random junk

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 10:52:37 am
content: Quote from: Galenbo on March 30, 2015, 10:47:53 amI saw those guys also in USA, looks like also a decent part selection

author: opty
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 10:55:01 am
content: Did you checkhttp://www.tme.eu?

author: MF-jockey
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 10:58:25 am
content: For small orders reichelt is a good choice.At pollin you can find some older rest materialshttp://www.pollin.de/shop/index.html

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:00:33 am
content: Quote from: opty on March 30, 2015, 10:55:01 amAny feedback?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:01:41 am
content: And there is RS-components (http://de.rs-online.com/web/)

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:02:35 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on March 30, 2015, 11:01:41 amOh yeah... will put it in the decent ones

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:03:25 am
content: Quote from: zucca on March 30, 2015, 11:00:33 amIt seems they charge close to 8 euro for delivery. No thanks. I'll stick to Farnell and RS.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:20:08 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on March 30, 2015, 11:03:25 amIf you order the parts with more than 8-10 EUR in value, usually TME is cheaper than Farnel in total cost. They do have very cheap SMD passives. Usually 5 MLCC capacitors at Farnell will cost more than 100 of them at TME. They have reels of the parts at very cheap too, like <3 EUR for the reel of 5000 pcs 0603 resistors. ICs and other semiconductor parts often are multiple times cheaper too.

author: PeterZ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:23:27 am
content: TME: shipping is 5,90€ netto within Germany. I have been using them for years, mostly for passives, generic silicon stuff like opamps, bjt etc. Relatively good prices, very quick delivery (DHL). They opened up a local division in Germany few years ago.Farnell: you need to be a registered EU VAT customer to buy there. HBE (https://www.hbe-shop.de/) is their reseller for private customers.Edit: not sure how up to date that list is, but take a look here:http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Elektronikversender

author: Dr. Frank
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:35:25 am
content: Hi Zucca,again, a warm welcome in Germany!www.voelkner.deis quite cheap, and offers zero shipping, at orders >25€ anddirektüberweisung.They belong to Conrad, so they have a similar stock.Frank

author: babysitter
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:37:26 am
content: http://www.csd-electronics.de/Some microcontroller stuff etchttps://www.hbe-shop.de/Farnell for non-commercial, private customers

author: Wh1sper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:44:45 am
content: http://kessler-electronic.de/They always shipping with "Warensendung" cheap but slow.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 12:40:21 pm
content: Quote from: zucca on March 30, 2015, 11:00:33 amJust a few weeks ago, I ordered from them for the first time.And it was extremely fast delivery, I think 2 days or soAlso, I have ordered lots from Bürklinhttps://www.buerklin.com/Their website and service got much better in the last 2 years

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 01:37:58 pm
content: Quote from: Dr. Frank on March 30, 2015, 11:35:25 amThanks Frank and many thanks to all of you. A really big and precise help in just few hours, you are amazing. Danke!Do youknow if there is something likeuse this for EU/Germany?https://octopart.com/

author: atferrari
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 02:43:12 pm
content: Last year I was planning a trip to Iserlohn and somebody adivsed on a shop there. I did not retain the name.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 02:51:52 pm
content: http://www.futurlec.com/Delivery.shtmlI guess?

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 02:53:12 pm
content: I've used Distrelec.nl in the past (Netherlands). They work with private customers, payment via iDeal (Dutch online payment) and overall is OK. Except it seems their password reset has been broken for years, but mailing them will yield a response quickly.Their catalog is not that big, and feels like hit and miss. They don't stock everything, and where they have a basic set of parts, there are definitely some gaps (e.g. from 1 micro family, they stock 32K, 128K and 256K versions. 64K version missing, some parts only 1 package). However, for hobby this may be fine if you're OK picking parts by distributor catalog instead of manufacturer catalog.If I may, I want to add that RS in the Netherlands are completely off the charts. For some reason they stopped doing business with all private customers. A few years back this was no issue. Couldn't get a proper response from them, all I got: "yep, that's our policy".

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 03:23:42 pm
content: don;t know if these guys still exist:oppermannederman ( not a joke ! )elv.de these guys have a massive amounts of kits as well as parts. they also publish a magazine

author: Neganur
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 05:53:59 pm
content: I used mainlywww.reichelt.deor digi-key for parts. Conrad is silly with component prices but they have nice lab accessories and tools, their paper catalogue used to be nice too with lots of detailed mechanical information on parts.Sometimes I find thatwww.futureelectronics.comhas the best prices for reels of passives, like 10µF XR7 capacitors.Then there are some that already were mentioned, Bürklin, Voelkner, TME, Pollin, Schuricht (now distrelec.de).I would say that Voelkner and Pollin are similar to Conrad.

author: bapou
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 07:08:33 pm
content: http://www.elpro.org/is often cheaper than most of the other suppliers if you need more than 1 piece.

author: atferrari
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2015, 11:17:36 pm
content: I was sugested thishttp://stores.ebay.de/TECHNO-CENTER-SCHMITT-ELEKTRONIKHad not time event to travel to Germany.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2015, 09:19:03 am
content: Quote from: babysitter on March 30, 2015, 11:37:26 amI've seen this before, and I don't understand it. I am a private non-commercial customer, and I use Farnell without problems. Order on the website, use personal credit card, goods arrive on time!

author: wiss
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2015, 09:49:37 am
content: farnell UK is different, I've heard a rumour that it is illegal to exclude private costumers in uk, true?

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2015, 10:47:28 am
content: Quote from: wiss on March 31, 2015, 09:49:37 amI've never heard that and cannot believe it would be true. A business or person is always free to choose who they haveand do not haveas customers.

author: PeterZ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2015, 10:58:17 am
content: Apparently not in Germany:

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 31, 2015, 12:03:42 pm
content: Same in the Netherlands.Farnell and RS only sell to businesses (with chamber of commerce registration), not regular Joe's.

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2015, 07:53:13 pm
content: Hmm, I do believe Farnell does business with private customers in the Netherlands, however from 50 euro's upwards and the payment has to be cleared upfront & before shipment. However I always order via work, because it's faster/easier.However RS have been becoming close minded about these things. Still not sure why when simultaneously they try to advertise their DesignSpark community & free hobbyist PCB tool internationally.

author: hammy
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 31, 2015, 09:04:29 pm
content: http://www.segor.de-> A good shop to find rare itemshttp://www.elko-verkauf.de/-> A shop for Low-ESR Elko setshttp://www.watterott.comhttp://www.octamex.de/shop/index.phphttp://rosenkranz-elektronik.de/-> A great shop for test equipment!

author: Neganur
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 31, 2015, 11:48:31 pm
content: Quoteimho, the guy who wrote the price list was sitting on his glasses. pardon the rant

author: daybyter
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2015, 10:33:00 am
content: http://www.pinsonne-elektronik.de/was already mentioned?

author: JohnnyBerg
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2015, 10:47:28 am
content: Quote from: CrashO on March 31, 2015, 12:03:42 pmThat's not true:From theFarnellwebsite:Als u een particuliere consument bent, dient u er rekening mee te houden dat er een minimum orderwaarde van €50 geldt voor orders die via het internet worden geplaatst.Non Dutch speakers use Google translate

author: ElektroQuark
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 01, 2015, 10:52:54 am
content: These guys have Bungard PCBs really cheap:www.csd-electronics.deSome other components too, but little stock.

author: kdre
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 01, 2015, 02:00:33 pm
content: Another shop:http://www.elpro.org/(located in Darmstadt, Germany)

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2015, 02:19:31 pm
content: I am living in Germany for a long time and I am learning lots of good buying places from this thread that I have never heard of before.How interesting, thanks to all of you.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 01, 2015, 02:58:45 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on April 01, 2015, 02:19:31 pm+1that´s why I could not resist withthis

author: schwarz-brot
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2015, 08:23:54 am
content: I can recommend octamex.de as I did order there several times. Best prices in Germany on cheapish soldering tools (Ayoue, zhongdi...), only few components but high quality and hard to get stuff for home PCB fabrication like laminating sheets and PCB-Material in several colors.Because it was mentioned above: Pollin.de is NOTHING like Conrad. Pollin sells old overstocks and cheap-ass stuff for silly low prices. You can even buy mystery-bags full of old rubbish. Like a bag of old television PCBs or stuff like thatConrad.de is extremely expensive but has a large stock and is fast. If you cannot find what you are looking for try searching on conrad.biz, copy the article-number and try with this again on conrad.de. You can get everything that is ment for business-customers that way. Conrad.biz shows prices without tax, so take care.

author: Wh1sper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2015, 08:40:09 am
content: I like Pollin very much for cable harvesting.I.e. they sell at the moment an old SCART cable 5meter 21 pol. for unbelievable 0.34 Cent

author: Takto
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 02, 2015, 01:51:53 pm
content: Quote from: schwarz-brot on April 02, 2015, 08:23:54 amI agree. If time is an issue I can recommend to order there. Otherwise there are cheaper alternatives...

author: atferrari
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 04, 2015, 01:49:55 am
content: Quote from: atferrari on March 30, 2015, 11:17:36 pmToday I entered their site (what I didn't in the past)Are those prices of 8 Euros for one simple digital IC real?Or am I misunderstanding something? No German conversant myself.

author: Neganur
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 04, 2015, 02:50:29 am
content: Yes that's 8 EUR for two quad HCT NOR gate ICs.I guess it's a little like buying popcorn in the cinema, they have to make the profit somewhere...

author: atferrari
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 04, 2015, 02:57:28 am
content: They I are makingnTHEprofit.Even here, that's is too much. Close to ridiculous!

author: Wh1sper
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 04, 2015, 07:09:05 am
content: Quote from: atferrari on April 04, 2015, 01:49:55 amI would say you're right it is brazen.