Can anyone explain this Ebay tracking report? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 02:50:50 am
content: I ordered a simple set of banana leads from Hong Kong. I've ordered from Hong Kong (and China) many many times and it just comes to the US either via Chicago or San Fran. But how is this tracking happening? I don't get it -Netherlands!Item in transitTransit processing center, NetherlandsApr-12-17, 19:05 PMFlight landed to transit destinationSchiphol Airport, NetherlandsApr-11-17, 19:05 PMFlight dispatched?transit destination:Netherlands, flight #:KL888Chek Lap Kok International Airport, Hong KongApr-11-17, 13:35 PMItem being handed over to the airline.Chek Lap Kok International Airport, Hong KongApr-07-17, 17:20 PMItem in transit.Flyt Express's sorting centre, Hong KongApr-06-17, 17:19 PMItem dispatched. PKG#:PKG03428543Flyt Express's sorting centre, GuangzhouApr-05-17, 17:18 PMItem in transitFlyt Express's sorting centre, GuangzhouApr-05-17, 16:13 PMItem receivedFlyt Express's sorting centre, GuangzhouApr-05-17, 15:13 PMCustomer's order information generatedCustomerApr-05-17, 01:16 AM

author: ebclr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 02:52:03 am
content: It's in Netherlands local office near home, sooner will arrive

author: Housedad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 02:59:46 am
content: Not all of the sellers on Ebay from China are little Mom and Pop operations. Some have warehouses throughout the world. I have gotten stuff sent to me from Italy that was ordered through Hong Kong. As long as you get it, don't be alarmed.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 03:08:44 am
content: KL 888 is an actual commercial flight from Hong Kong to Amsterdam. Looks like they do some cargo deliverers on the side as well.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 04:10:41 am
content: At least you have current tracking. Just because the shipment is traveling west instead of east doesn't seem like a big deal considering the globe-like shape of our planet.I am still waiting for my local USPS office to figure out what happened to my shipment via "Chunghwa Post". It claims:Code:Tracking #:CC295093875TWCarrier:Chunghwa PostNotice Left (No Authorized Recipient Available)2017-03-07, 11:29:00, ~~~~~~, OR 97~~~Arrived at Unit2017-03-07, 03:52:00, ~~~~~~, OR 97~~~Arrived at USPS Facility2017-03-06, 13:13:00, PORTLAND, OR 97208In Transit to Destination2017-03-06, 03:19:00Inbound Out of Customs2017-03-04, 20:20:00Departed USPS Facility2017-03-04, 20:19:00, LOS ANGELES, CA 90009Arrived at USPS Facility2017-03-04, 20:18:00, LOS ANGELES, CA 90009Inbound Into CustomsProcessed Through Facility2017-03-03, 19:09:00, ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS)Origin Post is Preparing ShipmentProcessed Through Facility2017-03-02, 13:54:00, TAIPEI INT AMFAcceptance2017-03-01, 13:54:00Alas, no notice was ever left (or any follow-up notices when I didn't respond).And they couldn't find it at the post office.And no record of sending it back when I didn't receive it.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 04:37:11 am
content: Quote from: Housedad on April 17, 2017, 02:59:46 amAnd sometimes it's just the weird world of cut-price logistics. China Post isn't always the cheapest, and as I understand it not even the "mom-&-pops" toddle your packages down to their local PO to send. They use a small logistics mob who've made a deal with a slightly bigger mob who've made a deal with an even bigger mob who consolidates the whole lot into a single larger shipment to  to take advantage of a cheap bulk discount postal rate by another country.Earlier this year a lot of stuff was shipping from China to the Seychelles & being dropped into Seychelles Post. A couple of years ago it was Malaysia & [somewhere I can't remember in the Caribbean]. A few years ago stuff was regularly going Shenzen-Malmö-Australia (& didn't Dave's uRulers do something similar?).

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 04:50:16 am
content: Quote from: Richard CrowleyNever had problem with Chunghwa EMS here. We sent hundreds of packages over last few years already.TW tracking system says same for your TN:REASON FOR NONDELIVERY:Addressee not available at delivery.Maybe sender mangled your address incorrectly?

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 04:56:56 am
content: Quote from: TiN on April 17, 2017, 04:50:16 amThey got my address from PayPal/Ebay just like hundreds of other vendors who seemed to have no problem with it.I did NOT request that delivery signature was required. I get dozens of packages left on my front door step every month without a problem.And when USPS (or UPS or FedEx, et.al.) DO have a "signature required" delivery, they leave a notice so that I can leave a signed release, or go down to the depot and pick it up. I know the drill. I have done it scores of times. But no notice was ever left. No package was ever left. And I don't know what address was on the package because we can't find the package.

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 05:04:43 am
content: Quote from: Richard Crowley on April 17, 2017, 04:56:56 amChunghwa Post in TW is what USPS in US. USPS delivers such packages. And seller might mangled address, even though it came from ebay. Many people still fill stuff by hand here.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 06:18:33 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on April 17, 2017, 04:57:58 amYou're probably closer to the action than I am, but afaik it's not quite so cut-and-dried. For example, as I said, for the first few months this year (up until ~ end of March) lots of people worldwide - UK, AU, & US - were wondering why their eBay/Ali/Taobao/Banggood packages were tracking through the Seychelles. And the small vendors I buy from regularly vary their "free post" between ePacket, China Post Air, and "standard shipping" depending on what's cheapestat despatch time.Right now most seem to be quoting ePacket for free shipping - but last month they were quoting China Post Air (and, indeed, the stuff I ordered on 21/3 came that way), and in January it was "standard shipping" (which in that instance turned out to be HK Post).Once you get above a certain size vendor, though, they seem to stick to one service for their basic shipping option - usually China Post or HK Post, AIR or EMS.(edit:added text)

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 06:38:36 am
content: Interesting. In my experience in both Aus (usual) & the US (occasional) I don't think I've ever had anything come by ePacket unless I've paid for faster shipping.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 07:28:11 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on April 17, 2017, 06:47:42 amYou may want to remove your home address.

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 07:56:32 am
content: Here in NZ, sometimes I get ePacket, sometimes I get direct entry NZ Post, sometimes I get HK Post, sometimes China Post, sometimes it even gets physically relabelled in Auckland and shipped domestically I've had packages from through SwissPost, PostNord, Singapore Post and various others. Sometimes it will actually transit through those other countries first, other times I think it just enters that other country's postal system directly in China and gets onloaded to a passenger aircraft heading this way anyway.In short, small parcel sending from China is a real mish-mash of services, which no doubt helps keep the prices down due to competition, as well as the IPU historical weirdness, direct and indirect subsidies, and so forth.As long as it arrives eventually, that's the main thing.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 08:24:15 am
content: I ordered a set of tapered reamers from an Indian seller, and they were shipped HK post, from a HK seller, cheaper than that seller had them on sale on his own online shop. Bought a really nice reamer there as well, and it looks lovely, though I would not use it on steel, it is just a little too soft for that, but perfect for soft aluminium and plastic, plus it is self starting, and comes in a nice knurled aluminium housing.but yes, international tracking shows who had the bulk shipping the cheapest that hour, and which plane next leaving to a hub still had mass and volume available to do a cargo pallet at a fuel only cost, so as to get something for that last mass. You can get some low rates if your pallet is willing to go as standby cargo for a period, and there are a lot of flights to a particular hub you want to send it to.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 12:02:11 pm
content: Thanks for all the replies.Quote from: Housedad on April 17, 2017, 02:59:46 amWell, as you can see though, the item started it's journey in China -Item dispatched. PKG#:PKG03428543Flyt Express's sorting centre, GuangzhouI've ordered a LOT of things from Ebay sellers in China and I've never had an item go West to Europe to get here. It's just interesting to see that. I dunno - maybe things are changing or it was just a one-off fluke.

author: Nusa
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 12:55:54 pm
content: It always amuses me when people cover their street address, but not the 9-digit zip code. That code will tell you what street you're on, which block on that street, and which side of the street (odds or evens), which often narrows it down to a very small number of possible addresses. And it's easy for the general public to look up online.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 01:13:01 pm
content: Would not work with me, my post code of 4001 only narrows it down to a 1500square kilometer block of Ethekeni, and you would need some identifier as to the suburb, township or smallholding area that is going to be better.Of course my one co worker had a lovely address, which had post delivered to it. His address wasThe name of the personUnnumbered housePole number XXXUnnamed streetAmaotiInandaKZN 4001And the postman would give it to him. Another has the same address, and gets post there as well.

author: Avacee
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 01:48:08 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on April 17, 2017, 03:08:44 amMost Airlines wouldn't be profitable without also carrying cargo as its 5-10% of their revenue.Approx 8% by volume and 33% by value of all air-cargo is carried on commercial flights.E.g. Heathrow handled more value of cargo than the UK's 2 largest shipping ports (29% by value of long-haul goods arrive via Heathrow)In fact, your US Post Office is one of the largest leasers of space on commercial jets for sending its post.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2017, 03:24:03 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on April 17, 2017, 01:13:01 pm@Nusa said:9-digit zip codePerhaps you are not aware that the original 5-digit code defines a moderate-size area.For example 97201 defines downtown Portland, Oregon.But the 9-digit ("Zip+4") could define just one floor of a building, or even a specific mail box.

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2017, 01:28:52 am
content: Quote from: ataradov on April 17, 2017, 03:08:44 amThat flight is actually being run with a specialised cargo plane:http://info.flightmapper.net/flight/KLM_KL_888https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747-400#747-400M

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2017, 01:38:27 am
content: Quote from: SeanB on April 17, 2017, 01:13:01 pmWe've gone with less information and still had deliveries, they were of the form:"house at top of hill"SuburbAustraliaNo names or numbers required!

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2017, 05:59:56 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on April 17, 2017, 04:57:58 amNope, ePacket now costs a a minimum of RMB 13 = $2:http://www.chinapostaltracking.com/ems/ebay-epacket-eub/#rateChina Post regular airmail is cheaper, and the 3rd party logistics companies are cheaper yet. Recently I've gotten packages shipped via the Laos, Samoa, and Vanuatu postal services.

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 19, 2017, 12:33:39 am
content: If you want a hard one to explain - try the following. It is part of the history of a package that was shipped from Austin, TX to my Oregon location. It arrived two days after the final tracking information in this list.February 19, 2017, 2:52 pm Departed USPS Facility MEDFORD, OR 97501February 18, 2017, 3:23 pm Arrived at USPS Facility MEDFORD, OR 97501February 18, 2017, 4:39 am Departed USPS Facility FEDERAL WAY, WA 98003February 17, 2017, 3:10 pm Arrived at USPS Facility FEDERAL WAY, WA 98003February 15, 2017, 2:40 pm Arrived at USPS Facility NORTH TEXAS PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERFebruary 15, 2017, 1:20 pm Departed USPS Facility DALLAS, TX 75398February 14, 2017, 4:28 am Arrived at USPS Facility DALLAS, TX 75398February 12, 2017, 10:45 am In Transit to DestinationFebruary 11, 2017, 3:45 am Arrived at USPS Facility FEDERAL WAY, WA 98003February 8, 2017, 7:58 am In Transit to DestinationFebruary 7, 2017, 7:58 am Departed USPS Facility DALLAS, TX 75398February 7, 2017, 7:31 am Arrived at USPS Facility DALLAS, TX 75398February 4, 2017, 2:46 pm In Transit to DestinationFebruary 3, 2017, 2:46 pm Departed USPS Facility FEDERAL WAY, WA 98003February 2, 2017, 7:28 pm Arrived at USPS Facility FEDERAL WAY, WA 98003January 31, 2017, 7:47 pm In Transit to DestinationJanuary 30, 2017, 8:36 pm Departed USPS Facility AUSTIN, TX 78710January 30, 2017, 7:47 pm Arrived at USPS Facility AUSTIN, TX 78710There was some non-standard information - in addition to a perfectly proper address. Apparently this non-standard information threw that automated system into a tizzy and caused it to loop back and forth between Dallas, Texas and Federal Way, Washington. Eventually something kicked it out of the loop (perhaps my complaint about the package) and sent it for special handling at the North Texas Processing and Distribution Center.

author: W2NAP
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 21, 2017, 02:02:14 pm
content: a good one i had bought something from a guy in LA. he sent it via USPS to me in Indiana. no idea how it happened but it went from LA,Cal to Sidney Australia then next track update it was in London,UK then NYC then ATL then Dallas then CHI then Indianapolis then to me. took a month to end up getting it. we both had a laugh at that insanity