for sale VC99 multimeter - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 01, 2012, 09:15:58 pm
content: For the fanboys of this particular meter:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220966721074#ht_500wt_1362

author: armandas
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 01, 2012, 09:44:45 pm
content: Is it the same meter that didn't work properly since you bought it and with which you were so upset as to leave the seller a neutral feedback? Trying to con people into buying that POS from you, eh?https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog-specific/91-$50-multimeter-shootout/msg7651/#msg7651https://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/vichy-vc99-multimeter-teardown/msg57364/#msg57364And how exactly is it similar to Fluke 17B?

author: sorin
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2012, 02:58:50 am
content: Quote from: armandas on March 01, 2012, 09:44:45 pmhahaha

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 02, 2012, 06:40:35 am
content: Quote from: armandas on March 01, 2012, 09:44:45 pmWell people on here rekoned it could be fixed, I have said on the listing that it has issues

author: sonicj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2012, 10:04:01 pm
content: putting fluke in your auction title is like farnel using kicad in their adwords....

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 02, 2012, 10:08:47 pm
content: Quote from: sonicj on March 02, 2012, 10:04:01 pmNot really I'm only re-using the terms I bought it under and put "apparently" to signify that I'm not saying it is, I have also clarified that it is not a fluke and called it by it's real name. No one has ever complained before of people practically listing these as flukes, that is how i stumbled on it.The Farnell/Kicad thing is entirely different ! I'm not purporting to sell thousands of flukes only to try and sell you thousands of VC99's.

author: WBB
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2012, 10:28:24 pm
content: Do you believe it to have any similarities to a Fluke of any kind? They do that so people searching for a Fluke will see the crap they're selling."Because everyone else does it" is pretty lame ass imo. It's crap, put that in the description.

author: sonicj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 02, 2012, 10:29:21 pm
content: 1 or 1000, its still a manipulation of the search system which is a violation of eBay'sSearch and browse manipulation policy.-sj

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 02, 2012, 10:47:38 pm
content: Quote from: WBB on March 02, 2012, 10:28:24 pmIt's yellow (sort of), has leads and sockets at the bottom, Display at the top and a knob for selecting how big the blue flame will be. How is that not similar?QuoteAnd yes it is annoying for anyone trying to do a simple search for an actual fluke.If I was you Simon (and I am not) I'd write it off to experience, the few shekels you gain for a 2nd hand clone meter sale are not worth the potential aggro you're likely to get if someone like the respondents here buy the thing and begin complaining.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 03, 2012, 07:53:58 am
content: well the last time we discussed said meter a few people though it was fairly decent and that the selector switch could be sorted out.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 03, 2012, 08:12:50 am
content: my experience on ebay (about 800 sales now) is that sellers will try and do you any day on the best of items, I have had no end of assholes like the guy in liverpool who bought cable off me and the moment he got it (like the second it was delivered) he was already asking to send it back because "it was not what he wanted" knowing that as ebay had given me business seller status (that I am not) I had to accept the return. I told him to get stuffed unless he at least told me the problem and that it was a simple piece of wire and the description was perfectly accurate and that he had the chance to ask any aditional questions. So after 2 days he came back and rekoned that the wire was old and blackened, so I said that I found this hard to believe and that I had a sample of the cable myself and it looked fine and asked him to send a photo. well it went on he never sent a photo and after ebay putting a hold on the payment I got my money in the end. I realized immediately that he was trying to rip me off. Another person bought a complete MTL camera kit off me and then decided he wanted a large proportion of his money back because one item of 5 a lens had a small spec in it he reckoned. I immediately realized he was actually only interested in the two lenses that made up the 5 item kit and even if i was to refund him the 1 lens he was being unreasonable. Checking out his profile confirmed my suspicion. So selling good stuff does not always get you happy customers because people will be assholes ! I have had a few genuine claims of a defective item in the begining and the buyer was believable and i refunded them and they were very happy. I have sold stuff like this meter before and people have been happy. At the end of the day I have found the customer will be happy if they are a normal person. If it is just another jerk you will never make them happy and no matter what you sell you are taking a risk

author: Wartex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2012, 10:34:51 pm
content: From your ebay:Quote from: Simon on March 03, 2012, 08:12:50 amFrom ebay guidelines:QuoteThis is blatant fraud, there is a category "For parts / Not working" for this. I fucking hate sellers like you, selling flaky shit as "used but fully working". If it requires repairs,IT IS NOT JUST USED, IT'S BROKEN. Make me wonder about your moderation practices.ALSO: 800 sales, only 20 feeback score. Oh you have other account? Why not use it for this sale?

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 03, 2012, 10:37:30 pm
content: yea i guess it should have been spares/repairs, I'll see if i can change it.Yes I'm starting a new ebay account, I'm not a business seller as ebay want to call me and am getting fed up with the hassle it causes.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 03, 2012, 10:44:01 pm
content: the last bloke that ripped me off (or rather tried to) with the wire basically bought it knowing that by rights he could return it knowing damn well that the return postage was so high it would have been cheaper to let him keep it for free - this is the sort of hassle you get when they decide to make you into a business seller.I can't change the description as it has a bid on it but will let the winner know the score and give them the option - is that ok ? yess sir, no sir three bags full sir ! anything else sir ?

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 03, 2012, 10:57:01 pm
content: QuoteYou need to make it clear that DSR returns require the buyer to pay postage. This is OK under the DSR regs, as long as you state it up front.What is a PITA with the DSR though is that you need to give a full refund of whatever the buyer paidincludingpostage - despite the fact that you can't recover the postage yourself - so, yes, anyone who returns something under the DSR costs the seller real money. All you can hope is that by making them pay postage you reduce the chancers.Some sellers say that they record serial Nos and security mark stuff that's sent out - this seems sensible as well to avoid the scam of buy a good one, send a bad one back.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2012, 07:20:14 am
content: well in this case it was a roll of cable that sold for £3 that cost £6 to post, so he knew damn well I would not want it sent back and hoped to keep it for free, the speed of the complaint along with the amount if time it took him to come up with a supposed reason was suspicious, he just saw I was down a business seller and tried to take the piss. fortunately ebay saw my point, no matter how much I adopted a reasonable approach and reasonably asked for evidence he quite clearly was expecting a freebie.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2012, 07:23:14 am
content: oh and before people start going funny over having 2 account as far as i know this is ok, I was even given the option of linking my new one to my old one to give me more selling power. The local scrap man that collected my dads car said they do this as a routine, because ebays terms on business sellers is so horrendous they start a new account every so often and abandon the old ones.