I am trying to understand diodes - Page 1
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author: Hextejas
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2018, 12:33:45 am
content: And my 1st self designed project involves a SFH 205, photo diode and an LM 358.Reading the datasheet for the diode says a Vf = 1.3, I seem to remember.So, the tutorials that I am reading say that I can measure the Vf of the diode outside the circuit.I did that on 5 different diodes and they are all right around .421.How come ?Next, It seems that every schematic that i have seen seems to have about a 10k resistor and a .01uf capacitor hanging around pins 1-3.Why's that ?Thanks

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2018, 12:47:27 am
content: Datasheet states forward voltage at 100mA. What did you measure at.Look at charts of forward current vs forward voltage, you should get your answer.

author: alexanderbrevig
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timestamp: February 15, 2018, 12:50:41 am
content: Hi! Please show us a schematic.Also note that a diode and a photodiode are really not very similar.

author: Dave
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timestamp: February 15, 2018, 01:41:33 am
content: Quote from: alexanderbrevig on February 15, 2018, 12:50:41 amPlease elaborate.

author: Nerull
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timestamp: February 15, 2018, 03:41:07 am
content: Photodiodes aren't built to be operated in forward bias and typically can only handle very low currents, and the Vf will also change based on incident light, this could make them tricky to measure.Components don't "hang around" - what do you mean? Are they connected between 1-3? What type of circuit is it? There are a million ways to use opamps and a million ways to connect them in a circuit.

author: Hextejas
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timestamp: February 15, 2018, 12:35:53 pm
content: Quote from: Nerull on February 15, 2018, 03:41:07 amSorry for being flippant, I should have phrased that better.I just looked at a site of instructables that had, I think, a post showing 47 projects to be built with the 555 timer. It seems that there is always a small value capacitor between pin 2 and ground and 6. So there must be a general rule or consideration here.I wanted to understand the "why" of that capacitor and the 10k resistor.

author: Brumby
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timestamp: February 15, 2018, 01:28:37 pm
content: That capacitor is the key of the 555 timer. That, and the resistor above it.It is the time taken to charge that capacitor up and discharge it that dictates the period of the timer.What also affects the period, is the voltage on pin 5. Normally, it is left unconnected or with a bypass cap, but here it is used to raise and lower the threshhold voltage. This will change the period of the 555 depending on the input.I won't spoil the mystery on how this is an amplifier ...

author: Hextejas
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timestamp: February 15, 2018, 03:14:03 pm
content: Quote from: alexanderbrevig on February 15, 2018, 12:50:41 amI don't really have one yet. I was going to try and build a circuit that turned on a LED as the light got dimmer.And the bit about photo diodes being different makes a lot of sense.I covered them from the light and the voltages dropped.

author: Hextejas
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timestamp: February 15, 2018, 03:17:48 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 15, 2018, 01:28:37 pmOk, they sound important, so how do I get from a resistor capacitor combination to a frequency ?Hey, is that all the RC discussion I have been seeing and ignoring ?

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 15, 2018, 03:30:39 pm
content: Just Google "555 timer calculations".Quote from: Hextejas on February 15, 2018, 03:17:48 pmIf it's in relation to the 555 - then, absolutely!

author: Hextejas
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timestamp: February 15, 2018, 03:49:31 pm
content: I have these components confused.I don't need the 555 to do what I want to do. Just need the photo diode and an LED.That was too easy so now I need to figure out how to work the 555 into it.Maybe I will try to blink the LED faster based upon the photo diode.Something like a normal fade based upon the light but full luminescence and blinking if totally dark.Probably beyond me.A speaker would work better if I had one.

author: Hextejas
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timestamp: February 15, 2018, 04:58:32 pm
content: Cancel this as it is a dumb 1st project. Since I am using a photo diode, the light keeps getting in the way.

author: Jwillis
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timestamp: February 16, 2018, 07:33:54 am
content: Try this one.

author: Zero999
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timestamp: February 16, 2018, 09:52:57 am
content: Quote from: Jwillis on February 16, 2018, 07:33:54 amWhy use two 5V PSUs, rather than a single 12V PSU?One problem with using multiple switched mode power supplies, like the ones shown in the photo, is the leakage currents add together, increasing the shock risk.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2018, 12:20:36 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on February 16, 2018, 09:52:57 amMy guess is whoever put this together used what was available - probably 2 phone charger plug packs.

author: alsetalokin4017
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2018, 12:35:37 pm
content: It may also be important to note here that the LDR (light dependent resistor), aka CdS "photocell", is not the same thing as a photodiode.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2018, 01:20:36 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on February 16, 2018, 12:20:36 pmI suspected that was the case. I still think it's silly putting it on the Internet though. If it were me, I would have shown a single 12V PSU, even if I'd used two 5V, when I built it. I might write that I'd used to 5V supplies, because that's what I had available, but wouldn't recommend it.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 16, 2018, 03:08:35 pm
content: Quote from: Hero999 on February 16, 2018, 01:20:36 pm(Sorry)