Zap your Fluke ! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: nixxon
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 11:41:58 am
content: I stumbled upon some products that could be a hazard to flukes and probably any DMM:The Zappers from Steins Elektronikkverkstedhttp://www.xa.no/steinsel/zapsev.htmlAmong other things, it is supposed to zap your flukes:"...zapper can kill most (...) flukes"Low impedance output ensures efficient zappingStandard 30 kHz base frequency for the broadest harmonic spectrum possibleAnd for the low amount of just US$ 225, you even get the flag ship, model S6, thatincludes a choice of 30 kHz or 2,5 kHz base frequencies!! I guess the Model S6 will even kill analog multimeters.

author: JuiceKing
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 11:53:11 am
content: This is snake oil, at best. The human body depends on all kinds of beneficial bacteria to function. Kill them all and you're dead.

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 11:56:22 am
content: i only hold one non snake oil consideration towards this thing, nerve remapping, but that is it and that is a long shot,now onto the technical side of things, appaerently from the specs this thing is only giving out 9V pulses at 30Khz, no where near enough to remotly damage a fluke,

author: Baliszoft
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 01:11:58 pm
content: What is the point in zapping a fluke (or anything else)?

author: nixxon
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 01:58:31 pm
content: "According to dr. Clark, a zapper can kill most parasites, from viruses to flukes."I was just kidding with this stupid, hoax product

author: ejeffrey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 04:02:52 pm
content: These aren't crackpots, they are homicidal maniacs that need to be thrown in jail. Seriously, it isn't even funny, these people are trying to kill people and make money off of it. Whether they have deluded themselves into believing their lies or they do this with open eyes doesn't matter.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 04:34:23 pm
content: This should go under the "Snake oil" heading. I had a circular for a product like this a few months ago, it was claimed that the device had been invented by a female MD in the US, but most of these devices claim that they were invented or discovered by an MD in the US very often one who had trained at Harvard and worked at the Mayo.I never realized that Harvard had a degree course in flimflam and fraud would such a course come under accountancy or law?

author: MartinX
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 05:36:35 pm
content: But in the other thread about dirty electricity those same frequencies made you sick, which one is it? I am confused now so I have to buy both.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 05:55:17 pm
content: I suspect they are trying to rip off the skenar devices that do work but cost at least £1250. The worrying thing I see here is that there are two seperate probes, so you can get voltage across the heart - dangerous. All of the probes designed for skenars are all in one so that you can never put current across your whole body. And yes you can get a few hundred volts out of a device running off a 9V battery. My skenar can make over 200V i think and has varying frequencies from a few Hz to 350 Hz

author: Excavatoree
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 07:14:21 pm
content: Remember Dave's video of Doug Ford's* Fluke zapper?* - Ok, it wasn't his, but he had the use of it at least long enough to make a video

author: FJV
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 07:25:45 pm
content: My 1st thought was: "Why would anyone zap their fluke multimeter?, these things aren't exactly cheap".

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 07:36:05 pm
content: to be honest they probably can't ! if they are made for use on people I'm sure they can't touch most meters !

author: LaurenceW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 08:14:34 pm
content: Yes, we all here have this sussed for what it is before the end of the first sentence. But the sad thing is depraved criminals (I can't think of them as anything else) like this exist because plenty of others are ready and often desperate to believe. Of course, I prefer to live in a society where people are free to speak, but liars who profit should not go unpunished. It's little different from theft.Still, at least it has a 555 in it, so that makes it OK.Teardown, Dave?

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 08:16:38 pm
content: unfortunately they cast a shadow on the genuine devices, and yes there are genuine ones.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 09:05:02 pm
content: There are companies offering something like this to kill termites in the USA. Rather than fumigating the house, they drive nails into the studs and feed high voltages through them to electrocute the termites inside. I got a lot of negativity when I voiced skepticism about how effective this process might be...

author: xygor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2012, 11:12:57 pm
content: QuoteDepends on the organism. Here is an interesting article with a list of organisms and magnetic field frequencies:http://www.fda.gov/Food/ScienceResearch/ResearchAreas/SafePracticesforFoodProcesses/ucm103131.htmAnd for more:http://www.formatex.info/microbiology3/book/291-302.pdfhttp://www.aspergillus.org.uk/pdfs/21154638.pdfhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC205108/And here is an article on the Clark machine (the fluke killer.)http://quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.htmlQuackwatch is an interesting site that has drawn my attention for many hours of enjoyable reading!