Anyone Familiar with TYtech E1-C Desktop Pick and Place Machine? - Page 1
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author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 29, 2025, 08:56:38 pm
content: HiI'm exploring budget desktop pick-and-place machines for small-scale PCB prototyping and came across the TYtech E1-C on Alibaba (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/E1-C-Desktop-Pick-and-Place_10000033676080.html). It’s a 2-head machine with vision recognition, ±0.02mm accuracy, and 54 detachable hopper feeders, priced at ~$1,500. The manufacturer, Shenzhen TY Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. (https://www.tytech-smt.com/), claims 20+ years in SMT equipment, but I can’t find much user feedback or reviews online.Has anyone here used the TYtech E1-C or other TYtech PnP machines (like their A6L for LED assembly)? I’m curious about:Build quality and reliability (especially for 0201–30x30mm components).Software ease-of-use and setup process.Feeder performance (are the hoppers included, and how do they handle vs. tape feeders?).Post-sale support and spare parts availability.It seems to compete with budget Chinese brands like Neoden YY1

author: law
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 29, 2025, 10:19:23 pm
content: Weird. The Alibaba link has the E1-C machine and the first picture looks the same as their website.But the rest of the close up pictures on the Alibaba link are of a completely different machine.It has drag feeders. You can see them when you look at the actual product page.

author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2025, 10:39:37 am
content: The pictures looks great and the price is tempting

author: SMTech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2025, 12:22:29 pm
content: Quote from: ali_asadzadeh on September 29, 2025, 08:56:38 pmIts a rebadge I think, certainly every other placer and printer with their name on it is very clearly a badge or clone of other common models. I'm sure someone with enough time on their hands who has shopped around for this kind of garbage could point you at what its rebadge or clone of.As per all the others, you don't get to place 0201 with this class of machine and have a good time, you don't really get to do it with the next step up unless they've got decent electronic feeders. You can certainly try tho' as long as its a toy to you, not a tool.@Law ... they sell 2 models and presuably have mixed up the images. I would expect the price to be absolute crap, for the wrong model and with a hilarious list of extras landing you right back @ $5k where the other machines are. Much like the $350 machines on ebay with the $4k delivery.

author: Rat_Patrol
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2025, 03:12:13 am
content: After doing drag feeders when I got started, run away unless you really have no choice. Slow everything, down, not near as reliable (not nearly), peeling is by nature shit.Not to say you can't assemble boards with them, but it will be comparatively slow and need constant babysitting and tinkering.

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2025, 10:14:17 am
content: As being said: never ever you will get the machine shown on the photos for $1500.If you look here:https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Desktop-Mini-Pick-and-Place-Machine_1601567680227.htmlthey are offering a $500 machine and they use (some) the same photos. Send them a message and you will get the real price (then tell us).

author: Zikko
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 01, 2025, 12:27:07 pm
content: As my recent experience with the TVM802 - Check what cameras they use and ask for the software requirements. Usually the cameras in these devices are exceptionally bad. Like " I bough a very cheap one in 2010" level bad.The TVM802 uses capture devices labeled as "VHS to DVD" converter. Just google the max. resolution of a VHS...

author: 48X24X48X
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 02, 2025, 12:16:33 am
content: Most of the time, price on Alibaba is just for the fun of it. Don't take it seriously. At $1500, you probably will get an openPnP professionally made.

author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 02, 2025, 07:53:51 am
content: I have sent them messages for video, and data sheet, unfortunately china is in holiday for 1 week, we should wait and see what they say. Also I wonder what can we get under 3000~4000$ that is way better than neoden YY1

author: Aspartame
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2025, 10:35:40 am
content: If you trust that seller this looks like a better deal for $1800https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/High-Placement-Speed-SMT-Machine-Japan_1601195232503.html

author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2025, 11:10:59 am
content: QuoteFair enough, I already have sent them messages, and they told they will send the info after holiday. it seems you know the market, what do you suggest that has the best bang per buck for a machine under 5K?

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2025, 12:18:25 pm
content: Quote from: Aspartame on October 05, 2025, 10:35:40 am$1800???This is a Juki RS-1R. Price will be around USD 50000!

author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2025, 11:40:40 am
content: I got the machine specs, check it out.

author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2025, 01:19:08 pm
content: I got the machine video and sadly they told the price is 76000RMB (Around 10,682$)https://limewire.com/d/hTPIl#ElpqHhiZRHWhat do we have that's better than neoden YY1 and under 5000$?

author: 48X24X48X
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 10:59:05 am
content: This is basically a Tronstol E1 machine:https://www.tronstol.com/pick-and-place-machine/pick-and-place-machine-tronstol-e1-advanced.htmlMust be mad for someone to send USD10K over to them for that.

author: SMTech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2025, 02:12:40 pm
content: Quote from: ali_asadzadeh on October 13, 2025, 01:19:08 pmThere are not many, if any, people who have run different models of these cheap machines either side or one after another. So nobody can really answer that question for you, you can read through the many threads about the various cheap machines people have tried and draw your own conclusions. Every single one has a litany of various compromises and which compromises will annoy you the most depends entirely on your temperament and what you are attempting to achieve. There also seems to be quite a lottery on quality, you might get a good one, you might get a dog, you might be running right out of the box, you might need some spares posting on day one. You might get good service right away, you might be ***ed. A Liteplacer or Lumen (other slightly DIY openPnP machines may also exist) might be more fun to you because you get to build it.However like every 2nd person who wants everything for nothing you asked about 0201 in your original question. That needs good feeders, good control, no flimsy belts you can't do that with a cheap lightweight desktop machine. If you want to place 0201 or similarly small/precision parts you only have one choice. That choice is to buy a commercial machine, that could be one of the european "lab" brand like Fritsch or Essemtec but its much easier to find an older Samsung/Yamaha etc. They are big, heavy and often hungry for power and air but they can also often be kept running for years.

author: ali_asadzadeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2025, 10:53:49 am
content: QuoteOk, I can forget about 0201 parts, But I have made an excel file containing some examples of PCB's that I plan to make, in the excel file there is info about the component QTY and it's feeder type, So maybe with this you can help which optimal machine would be sufficed, note that , some parts that are very low QTY can be hand placed too.