Recruiting skilled workers - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: FireFlower
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2015, 07:30:07 am
content: Lets ask how hard it can be?Seriously I heard, company where I work as part time repairguy, the most experienced and with most knowledge in house just quit his job, dunno why, haven't asked but now company is trying to find new guy trough work rental services and their recruitment advertisement ain't convincing me they know what they are doing.Here is the recruitment ad and I have bolded the odd thingsQuoteWell this is google translation so its meaning is a bit twisted to more positive than original.Basically they're asking for an assembler, not a technician / a repair guy who understands actually something.Also you fix things by soldering and soldering? (original words: juottaminen and kolvaaminen. These are the same thing!). Also they are not saying minimum skills required, only asking it would be nice to know? Seriously.I know what will happen, our executive vice president will bring again a new guy, that this here will be our best repairman (again?)Seriously the last one he brought cannot even use his tools properly and it is painful to watch how he tries to look "busy repairing" by doing useless stuff he has no idea what hell he is doing yet he doesn't even ask for helpBasically job needs god-level skills of soldering with professional level solder stations, basically you need to be able to hand solder 01005 (imp) size components, able to read and understand electrical diagrams with radio technology, able to use oscilloscope and learn how to use computer assisted tools for repairs. Now if you're a pro would you apply trough "rental" place with these kind skills with this advertisement?Well hand soldering skills for that component size can be trained but if you need to teach everything about repair, what is the point? He will able to fix only trivial faults like missing component or tombstone ones.Edit: I blame management for not understanding what they are actually looking for.

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2015, 08:13:38 am
content: It's everybody's right to publish nonsense in such ad, to witch only 17-year olds reply and could get motivated.And they are right: That's the only kind of guy they could keep.My (and other's) task is to evaluate if such kind of environment could offer me the challenges and results I need.Nope.The really ambitious man goes to that company and lets the CEO pay for an audit, to improve "workflow"

author: FireFlower
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2015, 08:33:17 am
content: This would fit for recruitment advertisement

author: Ian.M
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2015, 10:20:52 am
content: Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

author: Neverther
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2015, 08:42:30 pm
content: So is troubleshooting the issue part of the job description?Now it looks like some "easy manufacturing job" and quality control could just mean running some predetermined tests. Rental agency will just spit out someone who looks like they could handle it.I've been to one place where the management was on completely different level and had no idea what was being done on the floor (basically a paper pushers, couple times they came directly to "our" area and it was painful just watching them, improper shoes and clothes and the questions they asked...). My direct foreman had an idea, but he had no power to do anything due to micromanagement. Needless to say the rotation of people was quite high (summerjob for me, went there second year as they asked me, did not even seek to work there, didn't even contact them mself. During one year half of the people on the floor had changed and again I swore not to go there again).Asked couple guys there and they were seeking other jobs, but as the job situtation in Finland is what it is...Other places where I've been the level of management was much nicer and if something needed to be done, they would do it themselves if there was no other way (subcontractor for one assembly plant), they were on the workers side and you could have conversation with them. Tho other place, just downright hostile environment.