Hantek HRDO2000 Series - Page 1
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author: Aldo22
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2025, 10:32:25 am
content: While browsing the Hantek website today, I came across a new model series: HRDO2000.I think it's new as I couldn't find any further information on the web. Unfortunately no price information.I can imagine that the 100MHz version will be the new budget scope at Hantek to compete with Rigol/Siglent, if only because of the 2000 in the name (like DSO2000, but I could be completely wrong).The specs sound good and it looks good for my taste.I'm curious about the price.4CH, 12-bit, 2.5GSa/s, 2Gpts,1,100,000 wfms/s, 10.1 inch multi-touch screenhttps://hantek.com/products/detail/18228Everything still looks like a pre-announcement.

author: Microcheap
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2025, 07:42:16 pm
content: These oscilloscopes are new models, Hantek had a prototype in their booth at the Electronica fair in Munich back in November, there's not much information yet.In their catalog they also shown a HDO4000 series with up to 2GHz BW and 10GSa/s sample rate. The HDO2000 and HDO4000 series (in the catalog it's writen HDO, in their website HRDO) are claimed to have 12 bits vertical resolution. There's also the 8bits DPO8000 and DPO7000, they all have very similar specs.Considering the prices that I saw for the DPO7000, they are not entry level scopes at all, what doesn't make much sense to me. The basic model, DPO7104C is somewhat cheaper, but it doesn't include all the options like LA, AWG and power analysis function. At least, its full potential are just a SCPI command awayI'm using a DPO7354E and the look and feel of it are very good indeed. The UI is a carbon copy of the MSO5000 from Rigol, so I expect the HRDO will be the same.Looks like Hantek is aiming for a higher end market with their new products. They are also releasing a 7 1/2 DMM, electronic DC load, high power PSU (3.6kW to 15kW) and DAQ systems, the pictures and specs looks nice on paper, we will have to wait to see if they live up to the expectations.edit: looks like Hantek managed to squeeze an extra 1GHz from the HRDO4000 front end, I just saw on their website that there is a 3GHz BW model too:https://www.hantek.com/products/detail/18226

author: egonotto
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2025, 08:23:26 pm
content: Hello,I am interested in the speed of saving a 2 Gpts waveform?Best regardsegonotto

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 03, 2025, 04:45:02 pm
content: There are intro videos forHantek DPO7504Uscope andHantek HDP4324PSU. Looks like new designs with many features, more detailed reviews would be welcome.

author: jjoonathan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 03, 2025, 07:08:44 pm
content: Has Hantek figured out their quality control issues (especially around firmware)? My first scope was a Hantek and it was an absolute dumpster fire. That was over 10 years ago, but I've seen a steady dribble of issues that continued to suggest Hantek was a major cut below Rigol and Siglent.I suppose I'm looking for opinions from current/recent Hantek owners about how aspirational this move upmarket is. Does their recent equipment mostly work? Or do they still think it's OK to ship equipment where big parts of specified functionality are completely broken or compromised past the point of sane usability?

author: Microcheap
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2025, 06:24:49 pm
content: Quote from: egonotto on January 02, 2025, 08:23:26 pmI did a quick test to check that, and it is slow. I didn't wait until it finished saving everything, I just saved some registers, measured the time and then extrapolated the results: to save the full 2Gpts of the memory to a USB stick it would take about 48h, that is considering the recording speed is kept constant and, mostly important, the flash memory or the scope does not fail before that. But you can choose to save the full memory length or just the screen data and that is much faster.Quote from: jjoonathan on January 03, 2025, 07:08:44 pmI hope so. I also have/had some other older devices from them and I now well how the FW update process could be a shit show, they would fix an issue just to brake something that was working fine in a seemingly endless loop. At least, eventually, it all got to a more stable and usable condition.Now, I have been using their 6 1/2 digits multimeter and power supply and I have nothing to complain about. The few issues that I found were quickly addressed by firmware updates. For the DPO7354E, I already got 2 FW updates, it still needs some ironing but when it arrived it wasn't in a worse condition than the MSO5000 when it was reviewed by the eevblog.I think they are trying to enter a more "premium" market with their new product line and I can see improvements, but certainly they still have a long way to go to prove some reliability. People still associate Hantek with cheap product and bad software and it will take them a lot of work to erase that image.

author: Microcheap
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2025, 06:48:42 pm
content: Quote from: electr_peter on January 03, 2025, 04:45:02 pmThey have a YT channel with videos that I think were supposed to showcase the main features of their product but it's a joke, it looks like the interns were bored and someone gave them a task to play and spend some time.https://www.youtube.com/@eediscusstechnology8742/videosNow to the OP, if you are looking for an alternative to the Rigol/Siglent scopes, you could look at the Owon ADS3000 series (8bit) or ADS3000A (12bits), they should be released this year so not much information yet and, at least, the form factor are a copy from the Rigol DHO800 and they run on Android toohttps://www.owon.com.hk/products_ads3000_series_4th-generation_multifunction_digital_oscilloscopebut Owon doesn't have a much better reputation than Hantek.

author: egonotto
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2025, 07:26:30 pm
content: Hello,@Microcheap: Thank you, I am already impressed by the 2 Gpts. But if saving takes too long, the large memory is not so useful.Best regardsegonottoPS: I have a DSO 2074G that is from Hantek a DSO3064A. My experience with it is not so good:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/experience-with-dso-2074g/msg1194745/#msg1194745.

author: Microcheap
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2025, 09:38:38 pm
content: Quote from: egonotto on January 04, 2025, 07:26:30 pmI was thinking the same. I will have a look later more carefully to see if I am not doing anything stupid or if there is a way to improve this saving time.Quote from: egonotto on January 04, 2025, 07:26:30 pmI've never had these PC based scopes, I just tried some models from Hantek and Owon very quickly but i wasn't happy, the PC software is hopeless. It's cumbersome to use, it has limited functions, it's dated and still, they reuse the same software for many products but it hasn't been updated for a very long time. I wouldn't touch any PC based scope from Hantek, those are older products and are probably just abandonware by now.

author: jjoonathan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2025, 03:24:30 am
content: The last update for my PC-based Hantek shipped a debug build of the exe bundled with production DLL files, which of course did not work at all, meaning that they must have had literally zero testing and enough of a "don't care" attitude to leave it completely broken foreverI'm glad to hear things aren't quite as bad with the standalone tools but I think I'll let someone else take the first dip into the multi-GHz offerings

author: Aldo22
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2025, 04:08:10 pm
content: Quote from: jjoonathan on January 03, 2025, 07:08:44 pmI have a DSO2000 which I bought new for $130 delivered.I don't like the general Hantek bashing, it's too simple.Of course such a cheap device has a different quality than one 2 or 3 or x times as expensive, that's quite clear.What do people expect?It's not just incompetence on Hantek's part, but design decisions.If you want to build a fanless, low-energy, economy scope, then of course it won't run as fast as one with high power consumption a loud fan.That's quite normal.Compromises have to be sought everywhere for this price.Building cheaply can be more difficult than building expensively.One problem with the DSO2000 is perhaps that it can do too much and not every function is fully developed.But the biggest problem is that although it has an entry-level price, it is not really suitable for “dummies” and then the silverbacks who “have always known it” come forward.You have to learn to get to grips with it, so RTFM and use your brain.The plethora of trigger options alone (including external triggers, line triggers etc.) needs to be understood.No other scope in this price range has that.Some say that it sometimes does not trigger stably or is “noisy”.Of course you see less noise with a FNIRSI 1014D. If you set the DSO2000 to the maximum sensitivity of the Fnirsi (50mV/div) you won't see any noise either, but at 2mV/div you can see all sorts of things, and that's a good thing.For example, here is avideoof someone who just whines but does NOTHING to solve the problem:In my opinion, he is a typical DSO2000 critic.What could he try?1. switch probe to 1x. Problem solved at 400Hz. If this is not desired:2. turn on BW limiting. Problem solved at 400Hz. If this is not desired:3. e.g. use timeout trigger to get a stable trigger. Problem solved.Let's not even talk about better connections.He can't think of any of that. He's making a video and rant about the stupid scope.I have attached two examples of what the guy in the video is trying to do.Probe in 10x via alligator clip cable on the AWG for maximum noise pickup.I turned on "persistence" so you can see if the signal is triggered stable (without a video).The input signals are exactly the same for both captures. Both with probe in 10x (with 1x it would be even easier).The question is whether I want to see the noise or just the repetitive part.In the first picture the peak detect mode is on, edge trigger is on and BW is off. It does not trigger stably.You can see the noise as if through a magnifying glass.In the second image, HR mode (light averaging), Overtime trigger and BW are switched on: Absolutely clean sine wave signal.The differences between these two screenshots are only in the scope settings.Don't get me wrong: The DSO2000 has many shortcomings and you are welcome to point them out, but you shouldn't blame Hantek for not using your brain.