Food Inc - Page 1
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author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2011, 03:48:56 pm
content: dave latest tweet about reminded me of this filmi forgot how disturbing some people treat life on this planetthanks for the reminder davenow my gf understands why i am a veggie

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2011, 04:32:21 pm
content: http://www.ethicalinvesting.com/monsanto/terminator.shtml

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2011, 07:18:34 pm
content: Meat comes from "animals" [that is, anything that isn't a plant], its just a question of how one goes about 'harvesting' it. In the wild, its not done humanely, whatever that means, and its easy to see if you study natural history more or if not so inclined, watch any of BBC Attenborough shows. He won't sanitize it like Discovery channel or Disney will for the sake of 'family time' or the 'Finding Nemo' generation.Some predators at least lions, tigers, and even cats, give the prey the coup de grace before dining, compared to these folks. Begins at 30 sec from the start, you can see the terror in the prey's eyes.Others, like to eat their prey alive from the inside out, such as various types of parasites that prey on animals, include humans.There is also the possibility plants of all sort have feelings or advance nervous systems unknown to us, and well, eating a salad is to eat them alive.http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-07/study-unveils-plant-nervous-system-illuminating-how-plants-remember-and-react

author: allanw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2011, 07:44:15 pm
content: You seem to only post a lot of videos about things barely related to electronics.

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2011, 07:44:50 pm
content: Quote from: saturation on April 16, 2011, 07:18:34 pmI'm not convinced.Fair enough, in nature the last minutes of the prey animal's life may not be very pleasant but at least it got a chance to live properly in the first place, unlike a poor battery hen reared in a human run farm.Then there's the case of which animals suffer more than others, you can hardly say a brainless oyster has the same mental capacity to feel pain and suffer as a dolphin.

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2011, 08:15:08 pm
content: I think its been discussed more in other forums, and it is way off topic for this forum.Regardless, my final post on this thread, yes, I'd say Dolphins are smarter and feel more more than oysters, and oysters feel more than insects who feel more that bacteria, but where will it end so that that becomes permissible food item?If one says veggies, another can say chicken. If one is trying to create some ethics or moral truth about feeling and intelligence needed to be food, well, tell it to the Eskimos, Mongols, or Bedouins.Finally, I'm more interested to know if an Eskimo wanted a Rigol 1052e and in knowing what they'll use it for, in a place like Barrow, Alaska.Quote from: Hero999 on April 16, 2011, 07:44:50 pm

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2011, 09:55:11 pm
content: Quote from: saturation on April 16, 2011, 08:15:08 pmI think you got that backwards, oysters simply sit at the bottom of the sea bed filter feeding and barely have any more intelligence than a cabbage. An insect is active and can have some degree of memory even intelligence.QuoteWhat's that got to do with this?

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2011, 10:16:33 pm
content: you are free to choose between carnivor, herbivor and omnivor. the systems are well accepted in our reality. except, canibalismQuote from: allanw on April 16, 2011, 07:44:15 pmnational geographic version of eevblog

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2011, 06:10:22 pm
content: The only one you can't choose is veganism, not without vitamin supplements or yeast extract (Marmite) which is the only natural source of vitamen B12. Anyone who says humans evolved from a herbivorous animal is talking nonsense. We've always had to eat animal products, even if at one stage our diet was mostly vegetarian we still had to eat some animals to supplement our diet. Back in the stone age, we didn't have the technology to obtain B12from yeast so if there was a part of our history when we couldn't hunt large animals we, would've feasted on yummy invertebrates, raw eggs and carrion.

author: Excavatoree
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2011, 06:38:52 pm
content: Quote from: saturation on April 16, 2011, 08:15:08 pmI can understand wanting to discuss non electronic topics with those we have met on this forum, with whom we share a common interest.Maybe we could consider, or-rename this section "General Electrical/Electonics Chat" and have a separate section for non electronic/electrical discussions as several other forums do?One can only belong to so many forums, and it seems silly to not have intelligent discusssions with people who share a common interest - even if it's not related to the topic about which the forum where we all met.