Stellantis push ads in cars - Page 1
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author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2025, 10:52:20 pm
content: https://techstory.in/stellantis-introduces-pop-up-ads-in-vehicles-sparking-outrage-among-owners/The push advertising cancer spreads further. Eradicate it ASAP!

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2025, 11:47:19 pm
content: We didn't see that coming.

author: MAS3
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 12:04:35 am
content: I've been driving a Peugeot 5008 == Stellantis, for 5 years now.It's the last Stellantis car i will ever drive, and i decided this already 3 years ago way before i would expect these ads to show up.Next year i'll have to choose which will be my next car i think, lots of things to consider.But it will not be Italian nor French and very unlikely American.

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 12:34:56 am
content: Did we require yet another reason to not to want to own a Jeep?Apparently the Stellantis executives think so.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 12:50:02 am
content: Numerous mechanics consider Stellantis one of the worst makers seen in the last 2 decades.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 02:13:59 am
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on February 19, 2025, 12:50:02 amYea and Stellantis (Ram and Jeep) as well as Ford and Chevy and Toyota are charging ridiculously high prices for their vehicles. You can actually pay over $100k for a truck now with all the dealer markups and add-ons. Some of them have been sitting on dealer lots for years. Look at the videos of guys walking the dealer lots with '23s and '24s still unsold. Something has got to crash.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 02:54:39 am
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on February 19, 2025, 12:50:02 amTheir transmissions alone are justification for taking the entire management and engineering teams out back to be shot.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 02:59:54 am
content: https://www.claremontcdjr.com/inventory/new-2024-ram-1500-trx-4x4-crew-cab-1c6srfu92rn223464/Near me. A 1/2 ton pickup with a 6-foot bed for $125k.650HP and 14mpg.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 03:07:18 am
content: Looking for a job?https://careers.stellantis.com/job-search-results/?keyword=Reliability%20Quality

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 05:24:55 am
content: you know, I am starting to think the solution is to not put mail boxes in things.Do we really need to get mail everywhere?It's mad half assed that people keep mailing virtual parts.its like a product that has to assemble itself for a few years. with video games, people are now SERIOUSLY not buying on release because they learned that its going to be a ruined experience until they get the first patch. So they are basically selling beta versions? It started like a joke, but now if you wait there is 2 possibilities1) you get a better version and a better memory of the experience2) company disintegrates and you get it in the virtual bargain binIts so much of a joke, I think it basically takes away from bragging rights. Like anyone is going to keep believing people that like bragging that they are happy with the purchase with how much BS fronting is going on, I think when the experience is really shoddy like pop up's in the car, they start thinking you are a fool instead of a baller (if you are into that kind of trash)so you buy fronted code AND junk mail later (and possibly more code). The spirit of the updates was supposed to be like a backup plan B SHTF thing, and instead its something you rely on.The closest analogy I have is like leaflet distributors climbing into afire escapeon the side of apartments to throw pamphlets for Chinese food through your window. Or like a service tech walking into your office room to plant junk mail when hes allowed contractually to visit when the air conditioner breaks down. Like damn bro WTF is your job description? does the front desk know about this activity?It'ssohood. Like if you tried the physical approximation of these things you would get like assaulted.Or LOL, its like a paphleteer attacking you on a red light. Let me just walk up to your car and throw some garbage on top of the map you have open on your passenger seat, or taping it to the console over the radio. They would literally have like a fair chance of being shot doing that.IDK what other side channel junkmail analogies are good. Maybe putting flyers into the money tubes at big box stores (pneumatic mail) or throwing fliers on cafeteria conveyor belts?How sad is that though, they need to put advertisements to on a high value luxury item like a jeep lol, acting like they are some broke joke. its barely acceptable to put ads in a free service

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 02:46:29 pm
content: I shared this story on another forum, and a member there linked another story where the Stellantis execs mentioned that these ads were the result of a “software glitch”.Color me skeptical. Most likely they consciously attempted an additional revenue stream. When it backfired, then assigned the blame on the software engineers.https://www.theautopian.com/jeep-says-the-repeated-full-screen-pop-up-ads-are-a-glitch-and-not-just-a-nightmare/

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 03:59:43 pm
content: (starting at minute 1)We should have known betterCurrently driving a Stellantis car myself (Opel Grandland Hybrid4) - I certainly not suggest to buy it, or any other Stellantis car.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 06:08:48 pm
content: Quote from: schmitt trigger on February 19, 2025, 12:34:56 amhttps://thelyonfirm.com/blog/jeep-dashboard-pop-up-ads-stellantis/#:~:text=TheJeep pop-ups can,agree to a company disclosure.QuoteDisclosure. What disclosure and why should there be one when all they want is to turn off the distractions that can put them at risk whilst they are driving.QuoteMaybe regulation is needed that say when an accident occurs due to driver distraction and the infotainment system is found to be aggressively advertising things on the dashboards directly at the driver the onus and responsibility then falls on the car manufacturer.

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 06:15:04 pm
content: was Mercedes or other Bmw who wanted a pay per uses stuff in the cars, rent options ... that new thing was coming for sureI bought a 2021 car just to avoid too much electronics, and a huge screen dash .of the 2022 and up ..... think it's my last cari'm getting sick of technology i think, give me back control, no gimmicks, standard windows controls, not the f##$% once you push it, it doesn't stop, an rear camera ok but not essentialeven car a/c now have climate control, humidity control, front settings rear setting independent of the front and others .... and you know that's all theses gimmick who break 1st

author: John B
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 06:16:55 pm
content: I'm dreading when I have to replace my current vehicle.How integral is the infotainment system in most vehicles? As in, will the ECU refuse to even start the vehicle.With any newer second vehicle I buy, I will want to strip any of this crap out, along with any network connected spyware.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2025, 06:51:41 pm
content: So potential customers can effectively be conned into buy a car with these unwanted features:QuoteQuoteReminds me of misrepresentation or "not as described" where it suddenly starts behaving in ways not expected after the sale but didn't exhibit these behaviours and no notice describing them before the time of purchase.

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 01:27:08 am
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on February 19, 2025, 12:50:02 amTheir old name apparently stands for Chris Hendler Recommends You Start Learning Engine Repair.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 02:53:26 am
content: Stellantis = Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler and Ram. That should tell you everything you need to know before you buy one of their vehicles.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 03:03:51 am
content: given a 4 man crew,old jeep : assembled from a crate thrown out of a shot up plane in 5 minutes under fire in the pacific jungle, illuminated by mortar flares, modern price would be ~$16000, built using manual labor (fairly paid)new jeep : requires 3 men to subdue psychotic mechanic after 5 minutes of disassembly work, in a bright climate controlled facility with 16 snap on chests, built by advanced robotic labor (poorly paid), $40000

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 04:30:38 am
content: Only $40 grand? You may be lowballing it.Check this video, jump to 3:15Granted, it is a nice vehicle, but still.https://youtu.be/0AsgDeT5tZk?si=rBvHztwoio_VGkzD

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 04:51:22 am
content: Heh; back in the 19-ought-80s, a friend used to describe the Jeep Cherokee as "the vehicle of choice of Central American death squads", which indeed seemed to be the case. (El Salvador in particular.)

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 01:08:44 pm
content: One of the new Jeeps is already leaking fluids on the lot!

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 01:33:32 pm
content: Quote from: xrunner on February 19, 2025, 02:13:59 amThe car industry is going down harder than someone swimming with a concrete shoes.Environmental regulations, forced electrification, CO2 norms. Couple this with supply chain issues from 2 years ago. They also wanted a paradigm shift, because cars became engineered to be unreliable and people got the hint. And ridiculous lineup, where slightly different models exist in 100 different configurations.I'm not surprised they are scattering to have different income sources. But this is not it, I will rather take apart the car and disconnect the antenna before I see ads in my car.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 01:54:27 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on February 20, 2025, 01:33:32 pmThey'd probably make it a condition in the terms and conditions that they need to "communicate" with the car after a period time in order for you to continue to use it. Citing to ensure "safety", "firmware upgrades" to keep your car "safe", "reliable", "road worthy" and "up to date/"modern newer pretty trendy in line with all the other cars to stream line the user experience with all other car owners" or loose the warranty. I see can them trying to same thing in the future on, "updates" are important for things like the "AI" so it can detect andhelpprevent road accidents forgetting about all the other distractions on the dashboard.Quote from: coromonadalix on February 19, 2025, 06:15:04 pmSarcasm:We believe PAYING PER WHAT YOU USE Is the FAIREST WAY to pay for it, look at gas, electricity and water (rubbish, water is recycled and cleaned and filtered back in), when you go to a shop and buy things. We can provide you with endless parts providing you pay per what you use.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 02:13:34 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on February 20, 2025, 03:03:51 amtry driving the old jeep and you'll quickly go get a new one ...

author: Gregg
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 09:11:12 pm
content: QuoteNow is the time to find a reasonably well preserved vehicle (non rust bucket, body on frame) from the pre-malize era and stockpile common parts before they are totally outlawed. Such a vehicle will be going long after 99.9% of the post 2020 vehicles are crushed and will hold its value.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 09:42:33 pm
content: Quote from: langwadt on February 20, 2025, 02:13:34 pmim not saying that the old one was a great road car or anything, but I think they kinda got a reputation for something they dont dolike mike tysons professional catering. not sure if its a good continuation of his career

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 10:39:48 pm
content: Quote from: Gregg on February 20, 2025, 09:11:12 pmYour post reminded me of the verse in the song Red Barchetta:My uncle has a country placeThat no one knows aboutHe says it used to be a farmBefore the Motor Law…

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2025, 10:58:10 pm
content: Quote from: Gregg on February 20, 2025, 09:11:12 pmwhat body on frame car that isn't a stupid truck or SUV, and modern enough to be usable as daily driver, are there ?

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 12:31:17 am
content: Quote from: langwadt on February 20, 2025, 10:58:10 pmAmerica being a stupid and an isolated/"unique" vehicle market kept that sort of wildly out of date concept around much longer than needed:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Panther_platformThe desire/requirement for a body on frame is another misguided/uniformed position, no reason to prefer it except that it overlaps/coincided with other characteristics which are desirable (like relatively thick steel panels that are easy to panel beat or replace by hand).

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 12:50:21 am
content: Quote from: langwadt on February 20, 2025, 10:58:10 pmFord Crown Victoria / Lincoln Town CarIf they still were making them, they'd be selling them.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 01:15:19 am
content: Ford Crown Victoria = cop car.Or at least they used to. What is law enforcement using these days in the US?

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 01:59:03 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on February 21, 2025, 01:15:19 amThe LA Sheriff's Dept bought a large stash of 600 Crown Vics just before they stopped making them in 2011. Apparently they have enough to go for another decade or so before they have to move on. Other departments are using the Ford Explorer (there's a police version) or Dodge Challengers.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 02:09:28 am
content: Quote from: bdunham7 on February 21, 2025, 01:59:03 amIn my Texas city they have Ford Explorers and actually a few police trucks and... yes really ...they have mounted patrols on horses.No electronics to fail in those.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 03:15:19 am
content: Quote from: bdunham7 on February 21, 2025, 01:59:03 amWow. That picture makes it look like you could bury all those suckers with just a few earthmovers on that rim above.if only.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 08:22:00 am
content: Quote from: MAS3 on February 19, 2025, 12:04:35 amIt's like they took everything bad from fiat and put it together with everything bad from the french cars (shitty engines, adblue that breaks on its own and won't be fixed by warranty, idiotic GUI in infotainment) and german cars cost twice their worth.which is really sad, they really want us to get chinese cars

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 09:45:29 am
content: Quote from: tszaboo on February 20, 2025, 01:33:32 pmHow dare you.In fact, the antenna is part of the now-obligatory EU emergency-call system. If you remove that bit, the car is not road legal anymore.And that's why my newish Opel is soon to be replaced with (another) 15 year old Toyota/Lexus, from the days when Toyota went for maximum reliability and quality in their manufacturing.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 12:48:12 pm
content: Quote from: Haenk on February 21, 2025, 09:45:29 amFun fact: Car antennas are multi band, and they have separated GPS, 4G and FM connectors. And as I understand the emergency call has its own built in battery and antenna.And yes there is a time Toyota made super reliable cars because it's hybrid drivetrain had to absolutely succeed.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 12:59:56 pm
content: Quote from: Haenk on February 21, 2025, 09:45:29 amWhat if he buys a phone to mount and leave in the car and wire it into that antenna?Wouldn't that comply if it was powered up by the vehicle at all times to be able make those emergency calls?

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 10:41:17 pm
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on February 21, 2025, 12:59:56 pmIts mandatory for newly built cars, no one is going to check or care if it is not functioning on a privately owned car.Still dumb to remove a simple safety feature. But as mentioned, probably other ways to turn off 4G or Wifi instead of messing with ecall.Looks like model 3 has its own dedicated ecall antenna, other cars may or may not be the same, as I see some mentions of antenna switching elsewhere:https://service.tesla.com/docs/Model3/ServiceManual/en-us/GUID-B873101F-FC55-432F-8C0A-32F3EE387862.htmlhttps://lagabasen.com/car-parts/oem/1447430-00-B

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2025, 01:22:04 am
content: Quote from: langwadt on February 20, 2025, 02:13:34 pmI own a '53 Willys M-38A1 jeep and a '66 Kaiser CJ-5 jeep and I have absolutely no desire to a own or drive a newer one. They're JEEPS, not race cars, sports cars, economy cars or grand touring cars.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2025, 02:21:32 am
content: But don't forget, assumption is, any of the European regulators aren't likely to simply accept an individual declaration, so you cannot sell the personal modified car.They would at least demand some assurances, maybe reasonable .maybe not.

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2025, 12:19:54 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on February 21, 2025, 10:41:17 pmI would imagine, removing the ecall might throw an error on the CanBus or even dash - that, at least in Germany - might be a TÜV failure, i.e. you lose your road-worthyness. (I'm not sure how the ecall module behaves/is integrated - but as it is mandatory, i'm pretty sure it throws an error...)

author: Karel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2025, 12:43:34 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on February 20, 2025, 02:53:26 amStellantis designs, manufactures, and sells automobiles bearing its 14 brands:Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Opel, Peugeot, Ram Trucks, and Vauxhall.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis?useskin=vector

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2025, 05:49:59 pm
content: All of which were, at one time, quirky yet iconic vehicles from their countries of origin, and nowadays are bland, unrefined and unreliable vehicles.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2025, 07:16:22 pm
content: Latest in my in box:An advertisement TEXT, from United Airlines, regarding obtaining an APP, android or Apple app, with perks offered, like free alcohol in flight. (Course I wonder where they bought my number.)Hmmm; last time I boarded and airplane was ONCE, 2021. (I'm really a home-stuck camper).Before that:May 2000. But doesn't hurt to advertise.BTW:Local Pizza place bugging me now, also.I WANT that money...paid to obtain my private phone number!(Maybe, lol, I should ask United Airlines:"Can I get a share, of that cash you paid out, to violate my evening peace ?"That seemingly with attitude that others aren't respecting, so...what happens with privacy has been happening.Aggravation for sale, contact Rick-Jack for details...

author: iampeteandrews
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 25, 2025, 04:57:03 pm
content: Quote from: schmitt trigger on February 20, 2025, 10:39:48 pmgreat song!-pete

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2025, 05:31:38 pm
content: Quotebut only to be played if on your way to the cinema on december 21st

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2025, 03:52:58 pm
content: Quote from: Karel on February 22, 2025, 12:43:34 pmJust read an article, these brands are selling 18% less cars in the EU than last year. I guess you can only go so long with quality problems.

author: schmitt trigger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2025, 04:51:02 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on February 26, 2025, 03:52:58 pmWhat would be interesting to compare is against the overall EU market conditions.For instance, if the market also dropped by 18%, well that could be a valid reason.However if the market conditions remained the same or improved, then this is a big pile of Scheiße.