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author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 08:05:58 pm
content: People, I am long enough in this forum to realize , that we have good quality of members.Good quality = educated + good characters + positive charged + clean language + humor + they can take teasing ...And even the ones that does not know how to tease in English,they get trained , like @shafri does..I have only one complain .. related with the public user profile of some members.It looks that they hate to write down , their country and age ..All that I can tell , are that by adding this info , you are helping the other members,so to help youwith more specific answers , in anything related with suggestion of products or services.And helps even of finding people of your own country.Personally from now and on , I will stop replying to any one with blank profile.In my eyes looks like disrespect to hide your self that much.

author: MyZirconia
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 09:13:48 pm
content: HI.Ok now i have updated my personal info (age and country but no picture yet)/Magnus from Sweden

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 09:18:29 pm
content: Thank you Magnus , and welcome on the board .

author: charliex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 10:56:50 pm
content: I think thats the silliest thing i've read yet on the forum. Why on earth would anyone feel disrespected if you didn't fill in your age/location. We're not ASL'ing on AOL.If its pertinent to the information given that you need to know something like, just take the initative and ask, don't just blindly label everyone who doesn't automatically do what you want. After all you mentioned they can take a teasing, i'm quite sure they'd answer age/location if you really needed to know.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 11:11:11 pm
content: Quote from: charliex on May 23, 2010, 10:56:50 pmBelieve it or not , the "how to" about building forums , was not my idea(adding fields about country and age)Believe it or not , the forums are made by having in mind that the "people - members" will socialize.If you are use to, to socialize with the mask of Zorro in your face , its your right to do so.As about me , I am not going to ask 1000 members about their country and age..As I had clearly explain , it serves their best interest to inform the community.Not me .... the community.And I , I am acting as one reminder.

author: migsantiago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 11:29:11 pm
content: Hiding a person's age and location is a synonim ofpersonal data protection.How on earth would the age affect an answer you would give to someone? Especially within an electronics design forum.

author: Matt
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 11:55:23 pm
content: Yeah that's a little ridiculous. It's not like it would be accurate anyways, you can just put in whatever you want.-Matt

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 12:08:37 am
content: Quote from: migsantiago on May 23, 2010, 11:29:11 pmWell the forum does not kills , but the electricity it does ...How about offering an advice for an adult , and this to be followed by a kido , he will be on risk.So I do not give a shit aboutpersonal data protection.Thats my opinion , any way..

author: redek
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 12:24:21 am
content: Personally I don't think its a big deal either way. But if it helps some members post more targeted replies, then we might as well do it.

author: migsantiago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 01:18:05 am
content: Quote from: Kiriakos-GR on May 24, 2010, 12:08:37 amI thought you had manners.It seems that the EEVblog forum is going to need some moderators.

author: safarir
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 04:31:30 am
content: This is completely ridiculous. You are not on a dating website or something like that and I see no reason not to reply to someone because you don't know is age or where he liveBut hey, you can do what you want, you are on the internet, no one care...My 2cSorry again for my bad english

author: rf-loop
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 05:13:35 am
content: This is not dating webside. Anonymity is most big power in whole internet. Of course this have goods and bads. But why categorize peoples by age, profession, education... maybe next somebody want all peoples put they faces public. Of course example I am very very old. maybe you think that I can not do any things with AVR, PIC, FPGA etc... hah. Do you know what is biasing. Avoid biasing you need hide lot of things. More you tell who you are and wqhat is you education, what is your age, profession and other things..even political opinions and so on...more you get biasing. I think it is more clever to read only what peoples write and hide as much as possible all things what may produce biased opinions about what other peoples write.I think more important is what peoples write. What you say is more important that who you are. If you know who write you go biased... you realize it or it affect as hidden biasing what is even more danger.If I tell yopu that xxxx pin 18 voltage is between 11.99875 and 11.99923 V and 97% of 1000 samples are between 11.99905 and 11.99917 and current is 170 - 180nA. What hell you need my age and country. Do you trust more if I tell you that I am Greek. If I am from Kiriwati or Philippines do you think I lie.So, is it important who write or what he write? I have see lot of lies from well known scientists. I have seen well documented things from young hobbyist so that I can full trust. (and vice versa)IMHO this is not dating chat and....... I hope Kiriakos can be now silent becouse I have not age and country or other personal data. (I hope he stay behind his own words. Kiriakos: "Personally from now and on , I will stop replying to any one with blank profile." )

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 05:28:24 am
content: I agree with the majority here, and not with Kiriakos.Whilst I have personally always fully identified myself on all online forums, and do have a better opinion of those who also do the same, I respect everyone's right to anonymity, and ultimately judge people based on what they say, not who they are or how they wish to identify themselves.I think it's silly not to talk to someone on a forum simply they don't identify themselves, the content is what matters, but hey, each is free to chose what they want to do. So if Kiriakos wants to do that he can go right ahead, just don't expect anyone else to care or do the same!Dave.

author: joelby
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 06:24:40 am
content: I guess we'll never know what Kiriakos thinks of your take, Dave, because you haven't listed your age in your profile!

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 06:49:29 am
content: well it is nice to know where someone is from but it's not much of a deal if you want to be anonymous, if thats so maybe your loss if we can't offer country specific solutions but I don't see the point in all the hoo haa over it. Of course you can generally spot young indian electronics students a mile off by their style of english and writing questions but then you may have to have good english yourself to tell the difference

author: RayJones
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 08:04:35 am
content: Australians live in a democracy (allegedly).To say to others "you must do this to participate" is somewhat dictatorial behaviour, and you have no right to enforce that on others.It is my personal choice not to reveal every minor detail about my personal life on a public internet page.Besides, if anyone does add an age, who's to say that age is factual and correct, likewise the country?It really is a surprising attitude for someone of an alleged age of 41 that they will not answer others who rightfully choose not to reveal such details.....So long as we all act with decorum there is nothing wrong with how things are.

author: RayJones
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 08:06:29 am
content: Quote from: joelby on May 24, 2010, 06:24:40 amDo I smell gunpowder from a recent shooting in the foot?

author: MyZirconia
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 08:14:05 am
content: OMG! Ive must have been the only one that didnt blow my headoff about this post./Magnus

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 10:09:13 am
content: Any one who hides his age ... he is underage aka a Kid , that afraid s that no one will speak to him ..Is that clear ?? clear as the water ? Yes it is ..Country - flag - nationality ...Is this an international forum ? Yes I hope ..Do we have flaming or basing with countries ? So far none.Do we have issues with the technology that China exports ? Yes with the half of themIs this a reason to flame an Chinese citizen ? No and its madness if some one does that.My mother and father had teach me, in my childhood, of how to behave properly.And In real life , I found that socializing equals to public exposure. ( Freelancer )Even Dave exposes him self , at the ultimate public exposure level.I was hopping that I found a place as forum , that I finally have to deal with my one cast of people,technicians practical or theoretical , the same quality of people like me ..I was probably mistaken , and if so, I have no intention to spent electricity - human energy - and time , speaking with damn avatars and non existent personality s.And some ones "smart enough" started talking that its like " Kiriakos VS the planet " or something ...As debate or " attempt for Administration " ..Well I will just say , if you plan to stay hidden like the turtles, just do so .Every attempt of my, for public Polls , in the reality looks to have failed .We have in the counters 1000 members , that all that they care for , are one good laugh.I had even try , to present few things , and force or motivate others to respond and react ,with ultimate target , this community to become truly active .To become an source of knowledge ...Instead of that I got web links , to some other, more skilled and specialized forums.I am not keeping any hard feelings, to any one "speaking against" avatar ,all that I care about, are the true people .. simple as that.Dave is one of them ... and another 8-9 members .. so far .

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 11:40:21 am
content: if you love your statistics go join the British government

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 02:00:57 pm
content: Quote from: Simon on May 24, 2010, 11:40:21 amAhhh I love be the " rock of the scandals "Or widely known as the motivator of reactions ... or the rock that falls in to the pod and cause splashes.But all those for an ultimate cause, other than my microscopic ego ...Any way I took new decisions , about my " forum life " , I will start to spent less and less by the day,time in it.Probably, by asking from strangers to become members and friends to its other ,its harder than anything ..

author: DavidDLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 06:55:02 pm
content: Quote from: migsantiago on May 24, 2010, 01:18:05 amHopefully is not Kiriakos

author: migsantiago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 06:59:54 pm
content: Quote from: DavidDLC on May 24, 2010, 06:55:02 pmYeah, he wouldn't be able to reply to ageless virtual users... or kids as he points out.

author: RayJones
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 07:51:22 pm
content: Yep kids with grey hair.Seriously, this sort of behaviour is pure and simple discrimination.It simply does not matter if these personal details are missing.The content of the messages will clearly indicate age and experience which is not found on the back of a Corn Flakes box.If you don't like it, so be it.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2010, 09:46:37 pm
content: Quote from: RayJones on May 24, 2010, 07:51:22 pmI totally agree .... thats why no matter how hard some kids are trying to hide ,their Corn Flakes boxes ... the knowledgeable will always know the truth ..About moderation ... is this another bluff or banana to step on it..?I am a very dynamic man, productive, and my last wish would be to moderating an kindergarten.Even at the last recoded video of Dave , the 98% of the questions was ... what to study ? what to do ? where to go ?It looks like , that the young ones, just looking for guidance ... I am hundreds steps ahead .. I have other needs.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 12:48:31 pm
content: Well I do not know the size of your shoe ... but my its an European 45

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 12:57:41 pm
content: Id have to agree with the majority of users here in that it's up to the individual as to how much personal data they choose to share.This forum is better in that regard than many others I've joined that require that certain information is provided as part of the signup process.One item of information that can be useful at times is a users location, especially when looking to sell or buy an item.

author: migsantiago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 02:54:41 pm
content: Quote from: Kiriakos-GR on May 24, 2010, 09:46:37 pmIt seems that you are lost in translation or that you don't identify sarcasm when someone uses it.I will be as forthcoming as I can, you would be the worst moderator since you discriminate people by their age and location.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 04:18:16 pm
content: Quote from: migsantiago on May 25, 2010, 02:54:41 pmArmy does that too , schools does that too, Televisions programs does that too ,even the barman does that too ..The only one who does not do it , its you .. and your are one tiny tiny "you" ..

author: armandas
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 04:35:08 pm
content: * deletes some personal info *If I am elected as a moderator, I promise to lock this topic right away. Vote for me. We need CHANGE!

author: charliex
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 05:15:48 pm
content: Funny how people always try to validate their position by saying everyone does it. There are enough people in the world to put just about any opinion as a majority.The material in the post is whats important, if you're unable to determine the difference between good and bad information, and the realisation that age does not bring skills, only that it might. Then you're in good shape to join middle management.

author: dengorius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 06:44:16 pm
content: Quote from: armandas on May 25, 2010, 04:35:08 pmlol you've got mine!

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 08:26:04 pm
content: Proving once again that democracy and mob rule are close relatives.

author: migsantiago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 09:42:11 pm
content: Quote from: Kiriakos-GR on May 25, 2010, 04:18:16 pmAn implicit way of saying that you are OK with discrimination. Wow.Quote from: shafri on May 25, 2010, 05:44:14 pmYes, sir. Promise!Quote from: switcher on May 25, 2010, 06:47:29 pmI second that.

author: safarir
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 10:37:53 pm
content: Quote from: migsantiago on May 25, 2010, 09:42:11 pm+1

author: Polossatik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2010, 11:14:55 pm
content: Any moderator

author: PetrosA
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 04:57:15 am
content: Aman...Aman...Aman...

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 05:03:20 am
content: Quote from: switcher on May 25, 2010, 06:47:29 pmThis is the wish of who ? of some avatar called as "switcher" ?You have to prove your self first , so your words to gain " gravity " = starting to mater ...And so far, I am the one that nags , and all the rest ones, are the ones who has to " explain " ,of why they show such denial , to follow simple things ..And just wish , the same energy that some people spent so easily on " debates ", to was used for something truly worthwhile .But in order to do that (spent you energy in a positive manner) , you must have something to offer ... And so far , the only person who is working to make this Video blog to become successful are, mister David L. Jones .And I, mister Kiriakos Triantafillou from Greece , trying to help him , because I got motivated from hisWork, and I hope many to follow , andworkfor the success of the EEVblog .The success of EEVblog , its all that matters .. simple because its one good idea ..of one grown up..So , if you are not an grown up too !! Its normal to feel that you are out of your waters ..Because you are ..

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 05:08:37 am
content: Quote from: PetrosA on May 26, 2010, 04:57:15 amSecond to that +1

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 05:11:46 am
content: Quote from: shafri on May 26, 2010, 05:06:43 amNo, we will clear any misunderstandings , here and now ..always in a positive spirit , but we will clear them ..

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 07:47:16 am
content: Kiriakos, I appreciate your contributions and enthusiasm for the blog and the forum, but I have to agree with Shafri, let it go, please.However well meaning, you've created a thread of no value at all, all it will do is degenerate into ill-will and misunderstanding. This has already happened with people calling for you to be banned, and I have received several private messages about this too.I have to admit that sometimes I cannot understand where you are coming from, if you are serious or just being sarcastic, or angry, or something else entirely... The English translation doesn't help I'm sure, but even so some of your comments are very hard to interpret in anything but a negative light.I love sarcasm and off-topic posts and rants as much as anyone, they can be fun, and I don't want to discourage such things. But the line can indeed be a fine one.So please try and keep it on-topic and respectful of others users in the future.RegardsDave.

author: RayJones
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 08:54:56 am
content: God has spoken.Amen to that.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 09:45:22 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 26, 2010, 07:47:16 amI will give another try, so to explain my view ...In one " International " forum , the non-native English speaking people ,they do not have the ability of be " Sarcastic " , most of them use the language to pass their message.Feelings and Web boards, was one issue from day one ... only at your video I could see ,your face and tone of voice , so to totally understand the level of any feelings , transferable by use of the sound and picture.So by judging in the Internet, the " feelings " of one text , has an tremendous " high error" percentage of 50/50 ...( even worst than the worst Chinese made DMM )Any way , my understanding so far , are that we have lots of very young ones , hanging on a forum,made for the electronic engineers.And they like to participate as equals ( by pretending the grownup's).When some one starts to pretending , he is anfakepersonality.Its known that humans are imperfect , and I am one of them , but at list, I am trying to be always honest.Honest actions and words ..Now that you have read my point of view , delete this thread ..

author: Polossatik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 01:20:54 pm
content: I think there is indeed a lot lost in translation...Really time to lock this thread.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 03:25:27 pm
content: Quote from: polossatik on May 26, 2010, 01:20:54 pmNo... do not do that ... just stop thinking ... I dislike anonymous users who things that their opinion should be written on the board ..Post your picture of your civilian ID , and then think as much you like..And my attorney will decide the quality of your thinkings ..If we cannot be friends ... we have to act at minimum as civilians .And the civilians, are using attorneys.

author: Matt
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 03:33:54 pm
content: WTF...

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 03:42:27 pm
content: Quote from: Matt on May 26, 2010, 03:33:54 pmI have the right to say that.... some one tried to hack my email account all ready ... Hello 74.63.112.137 from Chicago IL ... my regards ..

author: Polossatik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 05:27:57 pm
content: Not sure what is going on here, but may I kindly suggest to take a few day's off?I'm sorry to say, but you're just coming across as a rambling idiot... if that is not your intention then please calm down.

author: RayJones
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 07:52:55 pm
content: Quote from: Kiriakos-GR on May 26, 2010, 03:25:27 pmTouche'So adding your age and country instantly makes you not anonymous?Who are you?Where do you live?What's your address?(all rhetorical questions BTW)Believe it or not, you Kiriakos are just as anonymous as anyone who chooses not to divulge this information.We've heard your anonymous childish tantrum/opinion, too much.Now take a valium, relax and let people do what they feel is right for them and stop forcing your ideals on others.

author: dengorius
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 07:54:33 pm
content: Dude i think the only one who is being stubborn and childish is you.Your intentions might have been good at the start but you've lost it. Just read what you writeQuoteQuoteQuoteI think you should fly a little lower, that's just a friendly advice. Do whatever you want with that, i don't care.You've started a personal crusade out of nothing... you can't force people to post their own personal information if they don't want to, plain and simple. And the fact that they don't do it doesn't mean a damn thing, there mustn't be a reason behind that. You don't want to answer people who remain anonymous? Then just do it, the world will carry on, i assure you. There is no need for threatening sentences or public shows.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 09:58:11 pm
content: NOTICE:Damn, I do hate to do this, but Kiriakos has been given a private cease and desist notice, any more out of line personal remarks and he will be banned.Dave.

author: stevestk
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 26, 2010, 10:19:20 pm
content: I read Kiriakos's original post , put it in the bit bucket where it belongs and moved on. Why are there five pages of responses. Other than this one ridiculous hangup, he seems like a pretty decent guy. It would be a shame for him to be banned or move on because he no longer feels comfortable here.