New Siglent 3000 series DMM? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: Herman
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 01:58:58 am
content: Hi Guys, I found this on the Siglent Chinese websitehttp://www.siglent.com/cn/product/detail2.aspx?id=100000003069375&nodecode=105008002Is it a new model of Siglent DMM series? Only two models, SDM3055 and SDM3055A.Key Features(by Google translate)True 5 ½-digit digital multimeterUp 150rdgs / s measurement speed1Gb Nand Flash total capacity, mass storage settings and data files, scalable U disk external storageBuilt-in thermocouple cold junction compensation, supports dual display, English menubuilt-in help system to facilitate access to information and document managementextensive math functions supported by measuring the minimum / maximum / average / standard deviation, dBm, dB, Pass / Fail, relative (Relative), histogram,Trend curves, bar graphs, etc.Support for remote command and control, command set compatible with the mainstream multimeter with PC software EASYSDM4.3 inches (480 * 272) TFT TFT-LCD large screen display, configuration, rich communication interfaces USB Device, USB Host, LAN, GPIB (SDM3055A only)

author: wayne
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 03:07:24 am
content: seems good, but cant find data sheet,,,when will be ready? where can I buy in USA? any price reference?

author: gaijin
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 03:08:13 am
content: Looks like they got the inspiration for the GUI from the Agilent 3446xA.

author: FLY_2009
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 03:15:05 am
content: i need a 6 1/2 DMM, when do you offer it?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 03:16:53 am
content: QuoteLink for it at bottom of Technical tab pageEditUnfortunately only in Chinese.

author: theatrus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 03:19:38 am
content: It's so new there is only a 3D rendering.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 05:18:19 am
content: Quote from: theatrus on May 26, 2014, 03:19:38 amNot so.It is in the Chinese market for feedback.It would be nice addition to the Siglent range.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 01:31:01 pm
content: ADMIN ANNOUNCEMENT:Hmm, it seems that the following users share the same IP:FLY_2009wayneHermanTerrykebogenAs well as the official Siglent user here "Siglent".Three of which have posted in this thread, and all of them have only posted info into Siglent threads.Perhaps they'd like to explain themselves?

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 02:44:05 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 26, 2014, 01:31:01 pmVery interesting. Have you looked at the location of the IP?

author: PedroDaGr8
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 03:09:49 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 26, 2014, 01:31:01 pmI have long felt that there was something strange about siglent on this forum. The discussion always felt a bit manufactured, so this doesn't surprise me. It always felt less natural than the discussions about other brands.

author: onlooker
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 03:52:07 pm
content: Sounds very sneaking. Maybe, banning the word "Siglent" from the forum for a month will teach them something.

author: FrankenPC
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 04:04:40 pm
content: Quote from: onlooker on May 26, 2014, 03:52:07 pmOr expose everyone's IP address. Let he mob sort them out.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 05:14:08 pm
content: Quote from: PedroDaGr8 on May 26, 2014, 03:09:49 pmSounds like you missed all the fun with a particular Siglent seller (still active here) and his sockpuppets.

author: PedroDaGr8
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 05:22:13 pm
content: Quote from: Bored@Work on May 26, 2014, 05:14:08 pmYeah I did. Got a link for that? Glad to know I wasn't just imagining things.

author: Thilo78
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 05:24:37 pm
content: Quote from: FrankenPC on May 26, 2014, 04:04:40 pmExposing the IP would be over-kill, I think.But maybe it would be useful to force-display the location of the IP next to the profile country flag, just like FlagFox does in Firefox...That would already give away some of the coincidence...

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 05:38:59 pm
content: Quote from: PedroDaGr8 on May 26, 2014, 05:22:13 pmhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/review-of-owon-sds7102/msg180575/#msg180575

author: PedroDaGr8
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 05:43:50 pm
content: Quote from: Bored@Work on May 26, 2014, 05:38:59 pmThanks, he's one of the ones I suspected for a while. Clearly some shady stuff going on with Siglent. Even if they don't know about it themselves (which I think they do).

author: Flump
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 05:57:00 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 26, 2014, 01:31:01 pmBusted!

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 26, 2014, 09:10:59 pm
content: Quote from: Thilo78 on May 26, 2014, 05:24:37 pmCompulsoryCountry Flags

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 12:00:10 am
content: Quote from: tautech on May 26, 2014, 09:10:59 pmBased on IP.

author: gaijin
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 12:13:48 am
content: Just don't let them know about VPNs, proxies, etc.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 01:18:10 am
content: Quote from: tautech on May 26, 2014, 09:10:59 pmCountry flags are set by the user. One of the listed users had USA as their country.A request to all users: If you suspect that a user is not what they seem, as some members have indicated in this thread, then please report the fact to the moderators so the problem accounts can be investigated..

author: zaoka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 02:26:38 am
content: Maybe they are from the same building or office?maybe they make mistake and offer some discount

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 02:28:15 am
content: I'm still waiting for the official explanation from their point of view. This should be interesting.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 02:34:50 am
content: Quote from: echen1024 on May 27, 2014, 02:28:15 amAt least one of the offending users has logged in today.I don't think we'll hear an explanation.

author: tinhead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 12:56:50 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 26, 2014, 01:31:01 pmcongratulation Dave, you have now some Siglent engineers/supporters/contractors/OEMs with access to Siglent VPN, using Siglent corporate IPQuote from: GeoffS on May 27, 2014, 01:18:10 amso what? i'm located in europe, but can login over VPN to my customers in NA or APJ. And when i apears on forum only while i'm on corporate network, then you will never ever see different IP. So where is the problem? Herman posted so many internal pictures (before other did even recieved any new siglents) that everybody could recognize him at least as contractor/dealer/engineer somehow associated with Siglent. But still, where is the point? Sure, they have "Company account" as well, but did someone know their company policy? Is it allowed to them to discuass anything when loged-in with company account? I doubt that.Sure, one can think "ohh, they compiled a story a crosspost it with multiple users", but it can also be that EEs (or who ever they are) working on these gears (or for that company) have their own opinion and posting own things - with private accounts. Even such statement means nothing :Quote from: Herman on May 26, 2014, 01:58:58 amhe can still be distributor/contractor with access to Siglent VPN, and he don't need to be aware of Siglent new models (especially when they not designed for western markets).

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 01:24:18 pm
content: Quote from: tinhead on May 27, 2014, 12:56:50 pmSorry, but that doesn't explain the likes of FLY_2009's posts.None of these users have posted aboutanythingbut Siglent hardware.. and all from the same IP. Sorry, it stinks.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 01:58:03 pm
content: Quote from: tinhead on May 27, 2014, 12:56:50 pmThen explain why the main Siglent account primarily uses a different IP? (but occasionally the one in question)Also, the same IP has been used by two former users (or the same user) who got banned for spamming Siglent products.QuoteWhy would a reseller (who likely sells many other brands) surf the net all the time through a suppliers VPN? I'm not the worlds greatest penguin, but this doesn't make sense.And in any case, if they are resellers then they need to declare this. But no, they have Yahoo email accounts.

author: GeoffS
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 02:12:51 pm
content: Quote from: tinhead on May 27, 2014, 12:56:50 pmYou missed the bit where I said that Country Flagsare set by the user. Nothing to do with IP addresses.Why would you claim to be from another country when you can just leave the country selection blank?

author: tinhead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 02:16:07 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on May 27, 2014, 01:58:03 pmok, an IP is not the same as spam IP. But that what one could not see from your posting before.Quote from: EEVblog on May 27, 2014, 01:58:03 pmDave, my wife would say "go to real work" hehe, honestly, why i would use my company network while i'm "working" and not my private network when at home with kids ... hmmm.Quote from: EEVblog on May 27, 2014, 01:58:03 pmyeah, that didn't make sense , indeedQuote from: Monkeh on May 27, 2014, 01:24:18 pmso what? Did you checked my posts? About 1000 only about Hantek/Tekway, so i must be Tekway/anek puppet.There is nothing wrong when ppl working for Siglent (or any company) are posting their private opinion. And this can, and actually it will be very often, "we are great" kind of statement, no matter what company/country. And believe me, lot of such statements are made by ppl thinking "my company, if they see what i posted, will be happy about" (which is of course the opposite situation in any company/country with ppl having avg IQ over 100 (i lowered that number a bit, any marketing book would have here 120 or so)One will find always usefull things, e.g. things that Herman posted, some 50/50, e.g. from kebogen and some complettly useless from marketing? puppets trying to i dont know, earn a dollar?, like these from Terry, wayne, FLY_2009. Maybe these 3 users are simply one stupid user, hoping to earn a dollarAnyway, i would say ban them, together with Siglent account. They have to learn - or investigate a bit who is that stupid cow (in case all these posting not an order from smart marketing puppet).

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 02:27:41 pm
content: Quote from: tinhead on May 27, 2014, 02:16:07 pmYou're not one of a small group of users posting from the same IP with absolutely no other participation.

author: iRad
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 04:07:48 pm
content: Quote from: tinhead on May 27, 2014, 02:16:07 pmWhen and/or if one person, from multiple accounts, is having a conversation with himself as if he were different persons, especially with the objective of promoting a product, then there is plenty wrong with that.When multiple persons with the same objective of promoting a product, conduct a conversation in a manner as to hide the motive behind said promotion, then there is also plenty wrong with that too.So which is it? Please, one of the alleged conspirators needs to explain or apologize.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2014, 08:39:22 pm
content: Siglent have been caught with their pants down.There will be Siglent dealers that will not be happy about this chain of events.But do we send them to the naughty corner?What if others companies have participated in similar activity here, known or unknown?How can we identify this?Is it just observation or are there tools that can be put in place?Dave has spotted this and the ensuing shame will be a lesson for all.Do we have enough checks and balances to control this activity?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 31, 2014, 10:47:53 am
content: Quote from: tautech on May 27, 2014, 08:39:22 pmThere was no reply from them, so all accounts except for Sgilents official account has been banned.QuoteGeoff spotted this oneThe forum software can tell us which accounts share IP addresses, but AFAIK there is no way to get ti alert us to this, we have to check manually.