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author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2010, 10:24:20 pm
content: PrologueIn this thread you can add any information, that you have find or will find ,about new brands or products, like cables - leads - probes - crocks - or any sensor related to Multi meters.This thread its not made by having in mind product comparisons, about quality or pricing.Its just an quick view , of the current offerings at 2010.You can add the description , of a "new" product by writing :Brand - specs - compatibility - manufacturer web link - pictures.No links for retailers - or mega stores .The main idea are, that all of us, we will act mainly as reporters,and gain a wider view of the world wide market , products and compatibility.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2010, 10:38:30 pm
content: Subject : Compatible cables for Fluke .Just found , that Fluke owns the UK based ROBIN,ROBIN are one UK based manufacturer with wide range of products , assembled in UK.The Robin cables are compatible with the Fluke ones . ( Banana Type )Kewtech also has products using the same ( Banana Type )

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 26, 2010, 10:52:52 pm
content: Quote from: Kiriakos-GR on April 26, 2010, 10:38:30 pmActually it's the evil Danaher group that own Fluke, Robin and Tektronix.Dave.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2010, 11:06:34 pm
content: Subject : Product identification .The few and pride manufacturers , always put their logo on their parts.First example the Germanhirschmannhttp://www.hirschmann.com/en/Part sample with logo .

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2010, 11:12:52 pm
content: Subject : Product identification .The ChineseCHI-SHING, one good example of Asian manufacturers , proud for their goods.http://www.chi-shing.cn/en/index.aspProduct sample..

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2010, 11:50:51 pm
content: Subject : Product informationThe UK based“ Gunson “ automotive parts77019 | Multi Meter Accessory SetCurrently has available one set, with three cable extensions ( 3m ) - probes & accessories.Very acceptable quality , and It should be , as this set has as target group the automotive professionals.http://www.gunsontools.co.uk/item.aspx?cat=663&item=3446

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2010, 11:59:26 pm
content: Subject : Brand informationDiscover the Giant from France ..Legrandwww.legrandelectric.comIn the products range you will find specialized fuses too

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 28, 2010, 11:46:50 am
content: Subject : Part identification .Thermocouple Probe Type: KThere is few informations about them .Still the industry for years separates the K probes with the name asTP.TP-01 Type K Thermocouple ProbeSuitable for measuring temperature of the airTemperature measuring from -50 to 250°CProbe is 200 cm (length)Connector pins : the positive(+) is 2.8mm(wide) & negative(-) is 3.2mm(wide)Accuracy : < 250°C ± 1.5°CTP2 Type K Handhold Surface ThermocoupleSuitable for measuring temperature of the air steam, liquid or metal.Temperature measuring from -50 to 400°C, Max. up to 700°CProbe is stainless steel : 3mm(D) x 75mm(L)Accuracy : < 400°C ± 2.5°C or ± 0.75%Surface Temperature Probe (TP03)(-50 TO 500°C)The main issue with all those low priced ones are the durability.I have found also and expensive ones , made in Japan.They have high quality construction, and they are named to comply with the Class 2 accuracy standards specified within the Japanese Industrial Standard JIS C1602-1995.( brand Anritsu Japan -50~800º C )The highest range in the average priced ones, are about 1000 Celsius to 1090 Celsius.The highest range , are for special use , far from our common needs."This days I was In need to get, a better one than the TP-01 , so to be able to check the temperature of my soldering station too.Got 2X TP-01 as spares , and one TP-02 the one pictured bellow."At this point I will offer one buying Tip !!Stay away of the ones that looks like the "TP-02" and have as specs the 300 Celsius,they use poor materials, metal robe and plastic handle .The true TP-02 goes Max to 750 Celsius.So its designed to survive with out issues at the nominal 400 Celsius.( If you buying from Ebay, prefer the specialized sellers,that mainly sells temperature probes and sensors)

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 02, 2010, 01:32:03 pm
content: Subject : Product informationMultifunction Voltage TestersUNI-T UT-15CLooks as the latest upgraded Mains tester or Volt-stick ? that Possibly some people call it.This style of tools , belongs to the Practical ones :1)easy to use2)light weight3)one hand measurement = quick test4)electricians favor those mostThe reason of this post are because the latestUNI-T UT-15Ccomes also with LCD display, other than just LED .If you check the UNI-T product page , you will find the detailed specs.http://www.uni-trend.com/UT15C.html#The best part its the price ... near to 20 EUR or 30$ .And if you do plan getting one , its best to avoid the older ones with out the LCD screen,mostly because the latest with the older ones (UT15A - UT15B) , looks to be equally priced.Found one close up picture on ebay , and here it is .Product manual - not in English yethttp://www.uni-trend.com.cn/download/UT15ABC%20%E4%BD%BF%E7%94%A8%E6%89%8B%E5%86%8C%28%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7%89%88%29.pdf

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 02, 2010, 04:56:48 pm
content: Subject : Dangerous Product .Recently the American Army started to clean their depots , and lots of old " New in condition" stock,started to be liquidated .In those are this "Military specs" multimeter Leads Kit .. pictured bellow.This product mostly called as unsafe , because the accessories are not covered with any insulation,the probes are old style.And they are dangerous if you use them at anything like measuring Mains ( 120 - 220V )The Army looks that got the new ones ... act smart and do the same .

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 03, 2010, 06:46:09 pm
content: Subject : Silent Product upgrade by FLUKE about TPAK .Just got today my own TPAK from UK, in all the excitement about getting it,I missed one interesting change , even if it was pictured from the ebay seller.Fluke replaced in"one night "the TPAK main plastic clip with a new design ,and if we compare the two side by side the reason is obvious !!( The first version can easily break off , and the new one uses two support points, so to not break off )If you ever think getting one, now you know what to avoid ..Pictures1) Original version2) The upgraded one

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 03, 2010, 07:24:09 pm
content: Subject : buying tip for FLUKE accessoriesToday I got my own AC72 crocks set , that found on ebay in a sweet price.Half of my joy moved away, by realizing that those parts are made by soft rubber , and mostly because the production date was at 2002 .Even if the product came sealed and unused, if you do not aware the storage conditions,or the life time before aging of an such a product "made by rubber" , you will have one good reason to worry about.All Fluke accessories comes with the production date printed at the back , as in the picture below.In those , the ones made by plastic does have the longest shelf life , with the silicone type ones to come second, but the rubber ones !! are the most sensitive.Practically the set that I got looks to be perfect, no even a small sign of aging, other than some signs that this rubber needs a soft touch of Vaseline so to regain the shiny look of the fresh rubber.So the buying tip are :For the specific item, just go for the fresh ones by date..

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2010, 06:41:52 pm
content: Subject : Product informationIt Looks that3Mgot silently in the probes manufacturing,but not generic ones .. just specialized. (Test clips and accessories )I was looking for something like in the pictures below,and got them on ebay (7.50 EUR) , because they was looking as what I had in mind, plus was branded !!I would never get no name ones.Afterwards I got at the 3M site for verification, and found info and the catalog .PDFhttp://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSu7zK1fslxtUnxtGox_Sev7qe17zHvTSevTSeSSSSSS--#Vendor - 3M#A pair - Black and Red#Length 55.62mm#Termination - Solder#Type - Hook, Mini( The plan is one home made cable set, male bananas with rubbered ends,plus those two at the other end, 1.2 M long cable , compatible with any DMM & AMM that I own)Pictures :

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 09, 2010, 07:44:28 pm
content: Subject : buying tipLCD protectors ..We have all starting to use them on mobile phones , PDA's , digital cameras , etc etc .Why not on your multimeter LCD ?Very few, they do what they say, as specs.Especially of about be resistant to scratches.So I will just suggest few tips :1) Select from the ones that are suggested for digital cameras.2) Do not select anything that is suggested for devices with soft tough screen.3) Buy many ... the installation its the hard part..( even the smallest grain of dust it will cause an air bubble , and you have to damp the protector, and try another one , by cleaning again the surface)I got from ebay two deferent brands, by just looking product specs - feedback of happy customers- and at the end , that I had spotted the worthy product, started looking for sellers with the lowest prices.So I can now tell, that the ones made byPisenand by3MP,are made with good standards, and qualify as protectors.If you find equally good products from other brands , just post the link.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2010, 12:01:26 am
content: Subject :Brands & transformationsAre you aware of Amprobe ?Did you know that is actually the German BEHA, behind it ...BEHA who ? BEHA = UNITEST .Well if you type in your browser ebay.de , and despite the German letters do a search for BEHA,you will get lots of results with high quality DMM probes , accessories & multimeters.The old BEHA keeps their flag up, only at their site in the German language,if you select English language , you get exclusively the " Amprobe logo " .http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 16, 2010, 12:47:50 pm
content: Quote from: Kiriakos-GR on May 16, 2010, 12:01:26 amAmprobe are owned by the Danaher Group, who also own Fluke and Tektronix.So Fluke and Amprobe are essentially the one company, but they do have different design and manufacturing groups.Dave.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2010, 12:16:43 pm
content: Subject :Product clone ..Nothing interesting of finding product clones .... but here I found that some one started to make clones,even from the Amprobe products, that currently likes to be called as " value for Money " ..Amprobe looks to have one complete Leads set called as :Cat III 1000 V Sharp Test Leads with Alligator Clips 1000V CAT III,MTL-500Kit Includes# MTL-100 Double insulated Silicon Test Leads# MTL-101 Sharp Test Probes# MTL-102 Fully Insulated Alligator ClipsFirst picture the Original ...Second picture the Clone ... priced at 1/3 of the original.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 19, 2010, 10:19:20 pm
content: Subject : Product informationOne interesting " Electronic Test Lead Kit "TL809(2008-2009) By EXTECHOther than the interesting accessories , its the sweet price at less than 20$Data sheethttp://www.extech.com/instruments/resources/datasheets/TL809data.pdf* Two 42" (1m) PVC lead extensions with shrouded banana plugs at both ends* Two modular 4" (102mm) Heavy Duty test probe handles with 0.16" (4mm) banana plug tip* Two plunger mini-hooks* Two alligator clips with removable insulators* Includes 3-compartment sealable nylon pouch to organize/protect your test leads

author: Unknown
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timestamp: May 20, 2010, 12:00:49 am
content: The choice depends on what type of work you do. Almost all of my work is low-power electronics, so a large-pitch device would be something like TO-220, and fine-pitch would be 0603 resistors and TQFP/SSOP IC's, or if you're lucky DFN. Those huge probes would probably short five pins at once. I'm much more worried about getting proper contact with the right pin without shorting anything than getting shocked from the 3.3V from a lab supply or small wall wart, so I dislike huge industrial probes. I don't really see the point of modular probes with 4mm tips, except that they sort-of fit in European sockets (Fluke have a set that really fits). If you want to connect it to a 4mm jack, just take off the probe. The probe usually fits poorly in many 4mm jacks because the tip sticks out.

author: allanw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 20, 2010, 12:16:29 am
content: Not sure if this is the intention of the thread, but I just got these which were super cheap:20A Premium Fluke type Clamp Multimeter Probe Test Leadhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200471769049&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1451wt_1137SMD Test Clip Meter Probe Multimeter Tweezerhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280485825223&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_3577wt_911Obviously I won't be trusting them for any high voltage work but I bet they'll do perfectly fine for just electronics testing.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 20, 2010, 12:26:09 am
content: the intention of the threadIts written on the page 1 First Post !!You can add seller links in here ..https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?board=7.0As about the options for modular Kit , are unlimited ... In the first page are " just probes" with nice thin nose.The 4mm probes , can be used as banana plugs for test equipment,that does measurements above the 10Amps mark .@allanwBe aware , that those leads are the lowest quality ever !!Be aware , that this SMT Tweezer its worthless for mini SMT components .I am just a poor Greek , but I know where to put my few cash.Got them yesterday ( from ebay 30% less than the shops)

author: allanw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 20, 2010, 01:40:45 am
content: Quote from: Kiriakos-GR on May 20, 2010, 12:26:09 amI'm aware that the quality will be pretty crappy, but it's not like much can go wrong probing low power circuits...How much were the genuine Fluke leads?

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 20, 2010, 12:02:39 pm
content: I agree! Low power apps, no worries! For $3, worth a risk. Allanw, why not review those products for us when you get them? It should answer a lot of theoretical questions.Thanks for the link. I'm considering them too. I have no real SMD tools.Quote from: allanw on May 20, 2010, 12:16:29 am

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 20, 2010, 02:59:07 pm
content: Subject : TerminologyEven if my mouth likes to call it asS.M.D.=SurfaceMountDisasterThe correct Terminology are :S.M.T.=SurfaceMountTechnologySubject : Mini reviewsAre always welcome , even some of the products that are demonstrated here ,are parts of my tools.I did research before buying , there are several threads in the forum.But... I am just demonstrating them here as options, and nothing more.Subject : FLUKE International PricingUnfortunately, the FLUKE (US ) Mother company, looks to not feed well the International partners,by lowering the Neto Price on exports ..UnfortunatelyThe European partners must add extra Euros as profit , extra taxes,and the final price for the main Distributor in EU , goes like US Price in Euro-Dollars .But the ball still moves .... the retailer will add another 35% above that ..One Sweet Example ... Fluke 87-5360 US $( Fluke site )Major Greek Distributor .... Fluke 87-5 plus the TPAK Belt as special offer 360 EuroCurrency exchange last 6 months1 EUR = 1.40$ USFLUKE Retail 257 EUR in USA360 Euro - 257 = 103 Euro = 144$ Just to came in Europe.Greek Neto 360 EUR + VAT ( 21% ) 75.6 = 435.60Greek Retail 360 EUR + 20% Profit( 72 EUR) = 432 + VAT (21%) =522 EUR522 EUR local retail price ... = 730 US DollarsThe same crime happens in all European Union ...And my solution to all this ....Got the instrument from (eBay)Honolulu6 months old withTP88Probes = 183 EUR Shipped ( to Uncle Kiriakos No Tax )TPAKStrap from UK ( No carton Box but New ) Buy Now = 22 EUR ShippedAC72Alligators UK ( Old stock but New ) Buy Now = 12 EUR ShippedC25Original soft case from US ( "New" ) Buy Now = 32 EUR ShippedTL71Premium probes UK ( New old stock ) Auction = 20 EUR ShippedKprobe adapter banana and oneKprobe 750 Celsius ( China ) = 7 EUR ShippedThe total = 276 EUR = 386$And Crazy enough , got one Aluminum hard case for it (universal use) 25 EUR ( Better than the Fluke)And one BNC female to dual banana adapter = 3.70 EURI do not know how Fluke are going to do business in Europe,but with this status , only the Crazy Kiriakos who wasted lots of days sniping all those goods,managed to get them ( collect them ) with the smaller possible cost.I was not aware of all those details prior getting the multimeter, but afterwards I had to dance all the way , as we say in Greece..And all this, Because I love good tools , and I like, the instrument to have all the extras ,and be a pleasure to work with it ...I favor any branded products , behind them, are one proud manufacturer.So do me the favor, and do not add in this thread products that the manufacturers of them.Hides them selfs, in anonymity , offering products of 1 $ worth.Love ya all , and regards..

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 20, 2010, 03:51:17 pm
content: No more thunders today from the Greek"y" God Zeus,there is always the danger ,the CAT III on the Fluke,to not handle the over voltage and blow the expensive fuses ..

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2010, 07:49:27 pm
content: Subject : Product informationI do not aware why any BNC to Banana , male of female adapter looks to be as overpriced ..Like to be someone, who likes to take an revenge , up to any one who likes to share gear of oscilloscopes,with digital multimeters and the reverse.Called also as BNC to banana , or speaker adapter..I just hope speaker bananas to have the same dimensions as banana to banana ..with DMM'sOr else I will use it just as decoration in ChristmasIf not , it will be an useful add on , specially if your DMM has an frequency counter, and you like to ad one set of leads with a coaxial cable on it.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2010, 08:41:14 pm
content: Subject : Product informationWe all have multimeters - all sort of testers -mini flash lights , with all sort of battery types.Yes but with devices with multiple batteries, some times, not all of the batteries worth to be trashed ..Some do have some energy left ... but how to tell witch one..The measurement just with one multimeter could not tell the truth ..The GermanAnsmannfound the solution, a bit expensive but an truly well made solution.One digital tester with load ... plus self test function (Internal battery diagnostic )Officially called as" Energy Check LCD ".. got it with some skepticism,now I know that it is invaluable.Saves cash to me, thats what it does ..The pictures are taken with single hand, so the quality varies.1) Self test..2) Every battery test lasts an specific time of three seconds,controlled by the device.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 01:57:03 pm
content: Subject : Product C o m p a r i s o nAdvertisers do their job, and me, as an average troubleshooter in electronics, do my ..And my job are to invest on fine grade materials, so to be able to offer the most accurate services ,that will help me to maintain my " Good name " as troubleshooter.So I got the over-hipped Premium Fluke leads, in order to have them as " main " test leads,and "safe keep" the standard ones, as spare set.By the use of the Fluke 87-5 (V) in the high Resolution Ohm scale found that the Premium leads,does not look that "Premium" in Praxis ...True deferences can be found only at the feeling in your hand.As the TL-71 have one rubberize feeling , that makes the hands very hard to slip on them,no matter the point that you are holding them..The Standard TL-71 , haves also this rubberize feeling in 50% less degree .And possibly any imitation, will be 100% plastic , so forget the rubberize feeling ..The Chinese CHI-SHING modular probes ( Page 1) are made of good quality plastic.But not rubberize feeling too.I can only imagine , that the no name probes, would have even less quality, in their plastic .And I assume this, because the Chinese CHI-SHING , have one retail price of 3 EUR its one....Round No 2Fluke VS Fluke ... Cables quality ...The same "extra rubberize feeling" ... its on the cables insulation too,I do not know who will found pleasurable this upcome , they are more soft than the standard ,In one degree , that I would personally called it "as unwanted soft feeling" for normal climate conditions.If divide the planet in three major climate conditions and name them by countries names.Like Mexico=( Hot ) USA=( Medium) Canada=( Cold )The Mexico will never buy the Premium cables ..The USA will feel the TL-75 sufficient .The Canada will probably find the TL-71 as more usable.Round No 3The TL-71 called as special cables for measuring mV .. If they are how they do it ??Their resistance look alike with the standard ones ...The only thing that stops me from screaming about the fake specs ,are that the price deference of the two, are very small ..For 4-5 EUR extra you buy the "extra rubberize feeling" .But nothing more ..Round No 4Lets see now the performance of Japanese cables with the Chinese CHI-SHING modular probes..I will describe it as " Kick under the belt "After taking the pictures !!!I had double check all the measurements , with extreme pressure on the probes .. so to get the best of them...TL-75 Standard =0.15 OhmTL-71 Premium =0.14 OhmGunston cables + CHI-SHING =0.12-0.13 Ohm!!!

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 02:05:52 pm
content: Round No 5Cables length ... I know that my messages are read by knowledgeable people ,so the resistance of the wires VS length , it will presented too.Gunston cables + CHI-SHING = 13 Cm sorter Than the Premium onesTL-75 Standard = 3 Cm sorter Than the Premium ones

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 02:10:10 pm
content: When I read about the resistance, I thought that you either were doing something very wrong or had the wrong units, but indeed, the display shows about 0.15 ohm, which sounds reasonable. Not sure what you mean about cable flexibility versus ambient temperature, the extra flexible cables are silicone. The flexibility of silicone hardly changes at either low or high temperatures (certainly any temperature that human's can comfortably survive), so they would be just as flexible in Canada as in Mexico.I've always wondered what they meant about recommended for mV (wasn't it uV?) measurements. The only thing I can think of is that they did something to the plating to minimize thermal EMF.

author: Kiriakos-GR
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timestamp: May 23, 2010, 02:19:50 pm
content: Explanation message :1) The true silicone it will remain soft no matter what, but the cable insulation are an mixture.2) The " Standard " version TL-75 , it will had one more soft feeling, in hot climates than the cold ones.3) The measurement of millivolts , demands the most low in resistance cable leads.Every extra Ohm on the cable leads, it will lower the voltage value by allot.Thats my understanding ... at list .

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2010, 05:55:11 pm
content: Additional Explanation message :Millivolt and MicrovoltsThe 97% of the people dealing with electronics in praxis, they have no clue about Microvolts,and I am one of them ..So I had to look school books , so to fresh up my memory about this value .1V = 1000 millivolts1mV = 1000 uV ( or in my Greek keyboard?icro Volt ) Lets hope that you can see the Greek m ..From theory to praxis ,the Fluke 87-5(V) , has as lower volt scale the 0-600 millivolts.With 0.1 millivolt resolution = 100 microvolts.Personally if I see one measurement of 001.20 Millivolt (0-600 high resolution)I will describe it as " one point two millivolts "But if you like to describe it as microvolts you should call it as 1200 microvolts !!The people who does not own an instrument with so low voltage scales ,they have no reason to bother about microvolts ..And some pictures of the scales inpraxis, that I love that much ..The Fluke 87 looks that at the High resolution it does as 0.01 millivolt resolution = 10 microvolts.If I have to make one conclusion... it will be that the 87V needs another one digit ,so to be able to measure 1 microvolt .Now just stop and think , what are the resolution of your DMM , smile , and forget what you have read from my words.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2010, 10:44:14 pm
content: Subject : Professional AC/DC Clamp for DMM & oscilloscopeThere is no many options available.But I got the best one for my needs, AC/DC Rms nominal 0.40-40-400ATrue specs 0.10-40A-400AI am planing one mini review , of this amazing clamp , and I will add the link soon.Some pictures just for you ..Edit :Linkhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=660.0

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2010, 10:49:33 pm
content: And another two ..

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 08, 2010, 02:00:07 am
content: Quote from: Kiriakos-GR on May 09, 2010, 07:44:28 pmFor small screens (at least one side less than 1.8"), very cheap screen protectors can be made from clear tape. I use "HD Clear" tape for my iPod and multimeters.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2010, 04:01:32 pm
content: Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 08, 2010, 02:00:07 amI had use too clear tape and clear thin plastic , in between display screen and clear tape .The clear tape alone , it does not protect that good.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 19, 2010, 11:58:41 pm
content: Well by adding three more bench-top DMM in my collection , I sudden got in the need for more test leads..The meters came used with out any.So I got in the known deli-ma , quality or three simple extra pairs of leads , so to be just satisfied .And I select to go for quality , but by getting something from Amprobe.So to be able to do and some direct comparison, with the many Fluke and other leads , that I do own ..So here it is ... probably the classic Amprobe leads set , with those crocks , that I had start to like allot.I have also the Fluke crocks , so another comparison will be made after the leads.One week of patience , and the truth about their quality will shine too ....

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2010, 11:32:30 pm
content: Nice cables , truly good quality , comparable with the TL-71 .Great set , with one little " catch " , the leads tip , are just a bit wider than 2mm ,and the crocks are compatible with those leads , but totally incompatible with any other test leads !! Fluke or not ..

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2010, 08:22:53 pm
content: Subject : Market News ..The famousHirschmannhanded over its Business Segment" Test & Measurement "toSKS Kontakttechnik GmbHMore reading here ...http://hus.hirschmann.com/Espanol/Test-and-Measurement/index.phtmlAnd the Home page ...http://www.sks-kontakttechnik.eu/

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2010, 08:51:55 pm
content: Before two days I got down to the capital Athens, and visited the most large retail business about electronic parts, an true paradise for every repairman ..Got lots of heat-shrink tubes and other stuff, and found also cable for multimeter leads , just cable..Got about 4 meters of its color , in the price of 0.42 EURI had some second thoughts about the inner resistance as it had no brand on it..But I am writing this lines because after measuring it , I have end up speechless ..Four meters of cable just 00.15 Ohm , just unbelievable !!This cable has an inner white tube and the external silicone body.If you ever need such cable you can possibly identify it by my description.The copper in it looks very shiny , the close up picture its a crop of the original ..

author: david77
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2010, 09:58:12 pm
content: Re: HirschmannYes, sadly they have been split up some years ago. But at leat their fabulous products are still available.I have always preferred to make my test leads myself and I'm very fond of using 4mm bananas.Here's a photo of my most used probes and plugs. All is made by Hirschmann, except the smallblank croc on the left, but even those are quite usefull. The probe in the middle is my absolutefavourite, they are very sharp and slim. They are also available for use with 4mm safety plugs.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2010, 10:38:10 pm
content: Quote from: david77 on September 25, 2010, 09:58:12 pmAhhh the search about Hirschmann bananas was top in my shopping list ,but I did not find any even in this major shop in Athens ..Instead I got this ( pictured below ) , called as Italian product .. still unmarked,for 1.25 EUR per banana ... they do have an very tight fit , thanks God ..I found Hirschmann bananas like this ( pictured below ) with the soft boot ( like the called Italians) ,but those ebay German sellers had an overkill shipping ..Even so I have not take it out of my mind so to get 6+6 ( red black) if I ever find an normal pricing.

author: david77
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2010, 10:44:20 pm
content: The Hirschmann bananas like the red one in my pic (Type: BÜLA20K) are usually around 1,00 Euro a pieceand the ones like the blue one (Type: BSB20K) usually about 1,50 EUR.There are many cheap chinese knock-offs on the market, the funny thing is they're usually not muchcheaper, so I stick to the original.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2010, 10:50:53 pm
content: Thanks for the info ..All that I need are the BULA20K 6+6 ...

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2010, 11:20:27 am
content: News : Product updateWell it looks that FLUKE upgraded the Fluke TPAK Meter Hanging Kit, for third time ... in a year !!Found the picture of an DMM considered as "Automotive " , still the TPAK Meter Hanging looks to have an additional hole on it ( hang it from nails ) .Cars does not have nails yet ...And So my noose tells me , that this will become an new standard .http://www.fluke.com/Fluke/usen/Digital-Multimeters/Fluke-233-A-Remote-Display-Automotive-Digital-Multimeter-Kit.htm?PID=69170http://www.fluke.com/fluke/usen/digital-multimeters/fluke-88v-kit.htm?PID=56149Technically , it looks to have an less flexible body , that probably helps for single hand attach detach operations..

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 05, 2010, 08:09:58 pm
content: Market NewsDanaher to Acquire Keithley InstrumentsWashington, D.C. and Solon, OH,September 29, 2010- Danaher Corporation (NYSE:DHR) and Keithley Instruments, Inc. (NYSE: KEI) announced today that they have entered into a definitive merger agreement pursuant to which Danaher will acquire all of the outstanding Common Shares and Class B Common Shares of Keithley at a purchase price of $21.60 per share in cash for an enterprise value of approximately $300 million net of cash to be assumed. The acquisition has been unanimously approved by the Keithley Board of Directors.More -->http://www.danaher.com/news/news_detail.asp?key=386Comments here :https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1437.0

author: qno
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2010, 11:13:56 am
content: So with intrest rates down to 0.0% it is easy to buy another company.Danaher bought Tektronix and Fluke already. Now with aquiring Keithley they have 60% of the market.You will see in the near future relabeled Fluke meters sold as Keithley and source measure units from Fluke.Just like the the Fluke and Tektronix bench multimeters. They look the same only a small software change.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 06, 2010, 03:36:42 pm
content: Personally I am expecting that the same " Join forces scenario will happen and in the east " ,and the market will balance for one more time.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2011, 03:23:21 am
content: Update : Nagging this time ..Well one page back I had inform about the female BNC to dual banana adapter.Well the cheap that I got , has lots of issues at the BNC center contact spot.Its too soft and it does bad contact with the BNC male, and causes stress to me at every use.And so I decided to get an " better " one and try it.And so I had just order the Pomona 1269 .From my current search it looks that also Fluke have the same Pomona 1269 on sale,labeled as BP800.( I found two used Pomona 1269 on ebay "Canada" on a good price ",I will say more as soon I will test them)But what I can say honestly are : stay away of the cheap Chinese version.Its totally troublesome.Pictures.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 06, 2011, 12:59:21 pm
content: Market - NewsTexas Instruments to Acquire National Semiconductor April 5, 2011https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3054.0

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 06, 2011, 08:26:06 pm
content: What kind of multi-meter cables/accessories do TI/National make?

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2011, 12:44:41 am
content: @Whalesac an new member in EEV forum looks that fall in love with the quality of an AEMC SL261 AC/DC current probe.AEMC = Chauvin-Arnoux France ..Read the all story here, and his own mini review.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3260.0

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 02, 2011, 01:34:47 am
content: Quote from: Kiriakos-GR on May 23, 2010, 02:19:50 pmI'm afraid not,my friend,think of it this way :-Across say:- 10mV we have a voltage divider consisting of the DMM input impedance,around11MegOhm,& the total resistance of the two test leads at about 0.3 Ohm.My Calculator hasn't got enough decimal points to tell the difference between the DMM reading in this case,& the reading with perfect leads of zero resistance.Where lead resistance comes in is for lowcurrentreadings.VK6ZGO

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 04, 2011, 04:12:09 pm
content: Quote from: vk6zgo on June 02, 2011, 01:34:47 amEven if I accept that,those cable sets they do no differ to the point so to justify the title of the special leads.About the TL71, it looks that some one of the marketing department of Fluke,wrote his own imaginations at the Fluke web site.http://www.fluke.com/fluke/usen/Accessories/Test-leads-Probes-and-Clips/TL71.htm?PID=56753* One pair (red, black) comfort grip probes with silicone insulated, right-angle test leads*Recommendedfor µV measurements* CAT IV 600 V, CAT III 1000 V, 10 A rating. UL listed* One year warranty

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 04, 2011, 04:57:05 pm
content: Maybe they also paid attention to minimizing the Seebeck effect and/or triboelectric effects that are significant for low voltages? Either that or their marketing department is talking nonsense.

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 28, 2011, 09:28:26 pm
content: I have lost the count of how many times Fluke updated the TPAK Kit in just 15 months time.This must be the fourth..http://www.flukeonlinestore.com/1281997.html

author: Kiriakos-GR
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2011, 09:42:07 pm
content: People .... say good bye to Wavetek ..Wavetek became Willtek Communications GmbH, and now AeroflexIf you own Wavetek products, you are redirected for getting support from other companies,for more details check this link.http://www.willtek.com/english/wavetek/1171985514