Fluke 17b on eBay for 12.99USD - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 08:38:42 pm
content: What am I missing? Looks like this person is missing a zero:http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLUKE-17B-F17B-Digital-Multimeter-NEW-w-carrying-bag-NEW-/191465958378?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c9442abeafluke 17b for 12.99 on ebay. I ordered two (not to be greedy).I also picked-up another HP 3478a that a person put on a very short auction. I have two already if someone wants this one, let me know via PM.Just call me bottom feeder.Jerry

author: Thilo78
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 08:48:16 pm
content: Thanks for the hint, Jerry!Just ordered two, as well.Even if it fails, the risk seems pretty low. If it works out, I'll have two China-market Fluke 17B+ to put on my deskLet's see what happens mid of January.(Actually I'm expecting some e-mails with "sorry, the price was wrong. We've missed to put another 1 before the point"Greetings from GermanyThiloPS: Where are you located?

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 08:54:42 pm
content: Photo and text copied from this listing:http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLUKE-17B-F17B-Digital-Multimeter-NEW-w-carrying-bag-NEW/120616441099

author: Thilo78
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 08:57:52 pm
content: Yes, that's where the "lost 1" comes from.They sell it for $121.99 US.We will see

author: Pasky
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 09:03:09 pm
content: Someone had this posted in the buy/sell section.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/likely-another-fluke-17b-scam-ebay-listing/

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 09:43:57 pm
content: Quote from: Thilo78 on December 30, 2014, 08:48:16 pmI am in lovely Sausalito, California, my home, recovering from multiple fractures to my right forearm. Spending a lot of time trolling ebay and craigslist and typing with one finger.Jerry

author: Thilo78
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 09:49:21 pm
content: Quote from: cncjerry on December 30, 2014, 09:43:57 pmThe location sounds nice; your condition less so.At least you won't die of boredomGet well soon!So far I haven't had the chance to see California. Only Georgia, Tennessee and Texas so far...Greetings to the other side of the big ol' pond!ThiloPS: Hope the laugh's not on us with the 17Bs

author: WattsUp
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 09:59:13 pm
content: Thanks for sharing this, but does this seem strange. I clicked on the sellers name, and the resulting page said they had no items on sale. The same thing happened when looking at their shop. Hope this helps!

author: Thilo78
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 10:03:06 pm
content: Quote from: WattsUp on December 30, 2014, 09:59:13 pmMight be an error on ebay.I have this problem sometimes when clicking on Franky's shop, as well.Maybe an ebay glitch or something.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 10:06:48 pm
content: Here we go again, Wont you blokes ever learn.Muttley

author: WattsUp
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 10:07:13 pm
content: Oh OK, just checking, would love to bag myself one of these, although unfortunately I'm not in a position to

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 10:13:58 pm
content: I ordered one (yes, only 1 this time.. ), interesting to see how it goes (after something like 6 re-payments on the Keithley PSU before the seller finally canceled it the correct way)

author: Mr Simpleton
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 10:19:16 pm
content: Just had to order oneStill looking at the other stuff he sells, price is out of whack on all items... 6-10 times too low.

author: torr032
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2014, 10:32:32 pm
content: Some times ago on dark web I accidentally stumbled on some underground chinese forum. It was a live chat and I was watching that real conversation, under the taobao supervision they are planning the strategy to completely destroy ebay. One part of it is a developing some new type of supervirus that is completely undetected with modern antivirus programs and that will completely mess up the ebay code and thus destroy the buyers confidence in that page.I see items like this that are way under the real prices have become in the recent past pretty common........and don't forget ebay is recenty having big problems, every couple of days something is wrong.

author: benjamin545
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 12:14:27 am
content: i just bought one. we will see what happens when we all receive our new shinny VC99s....

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 12:27:16 am
content: Quote from: benjamin545 on December 31, 2014, 12:14:27 amEven if we get VC99's, it is still a bargain price

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 01:58:54 am
content: Ebay is supposed to prevent things like what could be happening. One hundred of us buy them for $12.99 and the he runs off with $1300 minus the ebay fee. This is the typical scam,but ebay protects us and is backed-up by paypal. There might be a clause where we lose our money, usually is, but what the hell, if the guy wants to throw away his business, credit, etc for $1300, I guess we have to help him. Or there could be, "...so sorry, lost in mail."I've also had two or three of the Asian sellers try to invoice me after the fact for terms not in the agreement. The funny thing is though, I have found most of those high-volume guys to be very, very protective of the rep.Anyway, it won't be the last time I was scammed. But if you think about it, it is a hell of a lot easier to sell a few nonexistent scopes than 100 meters.Jerry

author: radioFlash
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 02:14:45 am
content: Within the last month, the seller has has 8 negative / 2 neutral / 20 positive feedback, which is a pretty terrible rating. The negative feedback is for non-delivery.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 07:46:16 am
content: The meter was just marked as Shipped, is going to be interesting to see what (if anything actually arrives) I am going to receive.

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 08:49:12 am
content: I received an email that mine shipped. So add wire fraud to the charges. I am curious to see what we get for $12.99. I suspect he marked them shipped so he has three weeks to abscond with the money.

author: Thilo78
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 09:35:43 am
content: I received my shipping notice as well.Now I'm really curious for the outcome of this experiment.Worst case is: Nothing is being shipped.Best case: We receive some China-market, old revision Fluke 17Mid case: We receive crappy Chinese multimeters with yellow colour on them, which at least make for an interesting teardown.

author: Mr Simpleton
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 09:52:59 am
content: Marked as shipped too...

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 10:40:17 am
content: Quote from: Thilo78 on December 31, 2014, 09:35:43 amThis is what I am expecting , but, perhaps we will be suprised in a couple of weeks.eBay now shows he sold 172pcs of the fluke (since yesterday) , at $12,99 a piece that makes a total of $2234,28 already if he is scamming

author: codeboy2k
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 12:48:37 pm
content: Quote from: Thilo78 on December 31, 2014, 09:35:43 amI was under the impression that there is no Fluke warranty outside of China for this model anyways.Also, that warranty, even if it existed, would only be for a genuine Fluke. At $12.99, these might be fake clones. Then again, they could also be midnight runs sold off the dock.Just the same, I bought oneAt $12.99 , if it's a real Fluke, then it's a great deal. If it's a fake then it probably uses some fake IC too, but it's also likely to be at least as good as any other fake Chinese meter, and there have been some good and accurate enough Chinese meters. Also, I only do low voltage work so I don't need to worry about safety issues with a fake as much as someone else might.And finally, eBay has a money back guarantee, even if it is a hassle, you *CAN* get your money back.

author: Guni
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 01:11:35 pm
content: I bought one too, but I'm very sceptic.As mentioned in one of the post, it's probably typing mistake - should be 121,99We will see, but it's seller's mistake for totally ~20k USD (almost 200 sold already)

author: centaurian
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 01:53:21 pm
content: I bought one too.. let's see If we receive nothing or brick...

author: The Doktor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 02:15:14 pm
content: Maybe genuine Fluke that didn't pass final QC. Went in the dumpster, someone went in after them...Anyway, ordered 2 of them.

author: argg
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 03:21:14 pm
content: I had a look at his other auctions andallof his offerings, besides the fluke, are ultra cheapMost probably a scammer

author: Marc M.
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 04:46:01 pm
content: Quote from: cncjerry on December 31, 2014, 01:58:54 amI recently sold a piece of test gear on Fleabay for $1500.00 USD. Paypal held payment for 2 weeks or so IIRC which would mostly negate that type of scam. It's the only item I've sold on there in recent years so I don't know if payment is always held or if it depends on factors like cost, countries involved, payment type, etc.I went ahead and pulled the trigger (I'm American so I must use a gun reference) on 4 of them. I'm on the 'missed a digit on the left of the decimal' camp and at some point they'll pull the listing and refund everyone's money. If notx 4! I'll keep my 87-V's on the benches and toss one of these in each car, the boat, and the mobile box.Thanks for the heads up!

author: Guni
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 06:53:13 pm
content: I've noticed one positive feedback from Fluke 17b buyer. This give me a hope.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 07:14:20 pm
content: Quote from: Guni on December 31, 2014, 06:53:13 pmThe Fluke has only been on sale there since yesterday, so the buyer can't have received it already. Its just someone who posts positive feedback before actually receiving it.

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 08:14:07 pm
content: No matter how this turns out I will be pissed. if I get what I ordered, I'll wish I ordered more; if I don't, say no more.I'm thinking we report him right now so the funds are frozen until we see what we get.Guilty until proven innocent?

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 08:17:26 pm
content: I received an Email to confirm that the item's have been shipped....Also when I first saw the listing yesterday he or she had sold 38 units,exactly 24 hours later they have now sold 274 units and counting....Not sure if anyone is yet to confirm a valid reason as to how this deceptionactually benefit's anybody, to many sellers now seem to be following suite.A typing error ?, I don't think so, more like "Done a Runner".......Muttley

author: FireBird
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 08:23:03 pm
content: But he just got a positive feedback on the 12,99 Fluke. So everything is good so far.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 08:29:17 pm
content: Hacked Ebay account?The products that the seller usually sells are no longer listed and the only listed items are too cheap to be true.

author: edpalmer42
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 08:35:50 pm
content: If you got a 'shipped' email, where were you in the sales queue? If the vendor claims that he's shipped 200 units in one day....well........I got my email and I was around the 20th sale so that's possible.Ed

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 08:44:21 pm
content: I went all in at around 40, 10 are mine so all you other blokes will have to wait your turn to be shafted, also it's good practice to take snapshots with the snipping tool of these dodgy transactions for future reference.Muttley

author: codeboy2k
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 08:55:31 pm
content: I was in at 184

author: f1rmb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 09:39:02 pm
content: Mine is marked as shipped, let's see...BTW, a friend of mine pointed me out that mjlorton reviewed the 17B (not +), chinese version, a year ago:---Daniel

author: AmmoJammo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 09:57:31 pm
content: 322 sold...I ordered 2...I don't expect to receive anything...

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 10:13:19 pm
content: And a cautionary note to those that automatically expect to get a refund without any effort from Paypal, I went through 3 months of hell to get back $72.00 from Hobby King for a RX-TX unit.They maliciously tried to screw me over, I have documented evidence, I could not let go on principal, Paypals instructions were incompetent and ridiculous to say the least.One day I will share with you the tale of "The Hobby King Horror".Still getting therapy for that one......This for me is simply a test of Paypal and nothing more....Muttley

author: AmmoJammo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 10:20:34 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on December 31, 2014, 10:13:19 pmOh! people aren't actually expecting paypal to provide any kind of protection, are they?!

author: olivil
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 11:09:00 pm
content: To be fair I've been issued easy Paypal refunds a couple of time, all for items on eBay.One time I got a complete on-the-spot refund for a Lightning cable that was advertised as genuine (but wasn't), even if it was working.I even got a refund for an item that whose condition was "Used" on eBay, meaning it was still working. It was DOA and seller was uncooperative.All these items were <20$ USD, so in a way, yes I do expect an easy refund, especially since if he doesn't deliver we will be 200+ with the same issue.

author: Refrigerator
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 11:29:28 pm
content: Quote from: olivil on December 31, 2014, 11:09:00 pmI've had a lightning fast refund on ebay, i had ordered some FR-4 boards and after a month after the item being shipped i contacted the seller. About 10 minutes after sending the eBay message my money was refunded.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 11:44:57 pm
content: Don't worry guys, it's gonna be alright because it says so at the bottom of the page -Quote

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2014, 11:52:28 pm
content: The listing also pretty much declares that the buyer is responsible for any mistakes that they "the buyer" make's, shipping address, etc.What's good for the goose...........well it's a Fluke for the goose.Muttley

author: AmmoJammo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 12:13:17 am
content: I guess it is possible that some have actually shipped...Its possible the orders simply get forwarded to a warehouse, saying *this* has to be shipped *here* and the people doing the sending don't know what items are worth, or how much the buyer has actually paid...

author: olivil
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 12:44:05 am
content: Quote from: AmmoJammo on January 01, 2015, 12:13:17 amEven if he does it himself, if he's not too used to the USD currency, he might just see the PAID status and ship them to the address.If he does I'm sure everybody's gonna kick themselves for not ordering more.

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 12:47:44 am
content: I think I was about 12th in line. By the way, I have never been ripped off on either ebay or paypal after about 100 transactions. I've had a few disappointments that the seller for one reason or another left up to me. Most recently there was a guy that wrapped tape around the original box for an HP DMM an he offered a full refund as well as return shipping. The seller has always made good, more so the Asian sellers than anyone in the states. Typically the Asian products arrive as quickly if not more so than even sellers in California, my home state.If I get anything that even looks like a 17b for $12.99 I will consider myself lucky. I was wondering what the BMC is for a meter like that anyway. If it sells for $120, I would think BMC is around $30, no? So a knock-off would be less but not 1/3rd. One thing that could have happened, if this is truly a deal, is maybe the mfgr built a bunch and then sold them off? Or a school bought a contract and decided to unload them? I didn't notice if the sale was on tomorrow as well as in new fiscal year. Anyway, let's see who gets theirs first, I suggest a pool.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 12:58:32 am
content: Sorry, I cant stay logged in for any given time, doing other stuff offline.Meant to mention this earlier in the thread so others dont muck it up like me.I made a big mistake committing to buy 10 units, he could now send me one unit and then it would be a shit fight over quantity, and I would possibly have to cancel the entire transaction and send the unit back via registered post to China (big bucks).Odd numbers for dodgy deals in future, less than 10. A trap for young player's, I should have seen this scenario before hand.Muttley

author: AmmoJammo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 01:05:19 am
content: I have to ask... who ordered 30?!

author: Wytnucls
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 01:05:27 am
content: There is no way you're going to get a genuine 17B from China at that low price, unless the goods were stolen or some enterprising fellow decided to sell factory rejects. Even then, it doesn't make sense, as that price barely covers shipping costs.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 01:06:49 am
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on January 01, 2015, 12:58:32 amLooking at purchase history it appears someone bought 30 units... and another person bought 25. So at least you won't be alone in receiving a single brick (if anything)

author: AmmoJammo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 01:07:41 am
content: Quote from: Wytnucls on January 01, 2015, 01:05:27 amI know thisbut isn't it fun creating issues for yourself?

author: AmmoJammo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 02:04:49 am
content: The listing just disappeared

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 02:07:37 am
content: Quote from: AmmoJammo on January 01, 2015, 02:04:49 amhttp://www.ebay.com/usr/yuhong258User was just kicked off ebay.

author: AmmoJammo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 02:08:35 am
content: I dont think I'm going to get my multimeters... lol

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 02:14:01 am
content: Yes, but the thrill of anticipation, speculation on how we might be ripped off, the comradery, the humor; add in the fun reading posts from those that haven't risked $12.99, all this for $25.98 (in my case) makes it worth it! Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I think we should have a contest judged by group vote as to who writes the best email to the seller once we get our bricks. Categories will be most threatening, most humorous, most pitiful ( I bought if for my dieing mother), etc.

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 02:16:44 am
content: What time is it in Hong Kong? Next fiscal year? That gives me hope.

author: barry14
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 04:02:28 am
content: I was one of those foolish enough to purchase one of these meters. Today, I got an email from Ebay saying the listing has been taken down and the seller is no longer registered on Ebay. Fortunately, a few minutes ago, I got another email from Ebay saying they were speeding up their process and that I received a full refund. I checked my Paypal account and indeed my money has been refunded. I think a lesson was learned.

author: centaurian
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 09:23:37 am
content: So it gone. Since he didn't marked it as shipped, then I guess, I'm not going to have this multimeter... Now what should I do to receive my money back? Just wait, or there is need an action from my side?

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 06:28:32 pm
content: Mine still says 'shipped' though I did receive a note from ebay as others have.

author: olivil
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 06:54:45 pm
content: Mine is shipped. ebay tells me I can take action, but at this time all I can do is ask a refund to the seller, which I guess he can't see anyway. If after 4 days nothing happens THEN I can ask ebay to step in.I guess everybody whose unit got shipped is in the same situation as me, so I'll keep you updated.

author: Mr Simpleton
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 07:47:54 pm
content: Oh... a true cliff-hangerEbay says my item is shipped, seller is thrown out of evil-bay...How will this end??Lot of thrills for just 12 bucks!Interesting to see that he seemed to sell clothes and baby stuff by reading feedback, but had a look at his "shop" showed mainlyandroid TV stuff priced 5-10 times lower than others... Having these items listed at very low but tempting pricepoint creates a stampede of hungry buyers...And then a quick pull-out with a few k$ in his pocket

author: kolbep
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 08:10:33 pm
content: ?..which will then need to be paid out of ebays/paypals own pockets when the buyer protection kicks in for all those buyers.just a few more of that, and Ebay will probably have to implement a new system to get rid of the fakers... or the scammers will all start having a field day with this technique...

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 08:22:26 pm
content: WARNING POSSIBLE EMAIL SCAMI received an Email with a link to the Ebay resolution centre (did not use link).The Email looked a bit dodgy, I dont trust it, have started a claim with Paypal.The Ebay resolution centre indicated that I had purchased the items on the USsite and that I need to resolve the issue with Ebay US instead of Ebay AU.Muttley

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 09:03:57 pm
content: Quote from: Mr Simpleton on January 01, 2015, 07:47:54 pmEnjoy, you bought some big adventure for only 12 bucks. But seriously what did you expect?

author: edpalmer42
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2015, 09:16:24 pm
content: Quote from: Mr Simpleton on January 01, 2015, 07:47:54 pmYes, the tension is building. What will I receive?Nothing?A box of rocks?A cheap DMM??A Fluke DMM??? Now thatwouldbe a fluke!Ed

author: Marc M.
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 04:18:09 am
content: I'm not sure why some folks are getting refunds automatically and some not. I was in the not camp. I waited until morning to see if I would get any notifications of a refund but, like the meter, nothing! I started the 'Buyer Protection' process in which the 1st step involves contacting the (now non-existent) seller. You have 2 options: 1) Request Refund, 2) Request the item. Since #2 was "#2", I selected option 1 - Refund. I typed a quick note demanding tracking information (mine were marked as shipped but there were no details at all) or a refund. Within a few minutes of sending that, I got notification that I was refunded the money. I went to PayPal and verified that I did indeed receive the refund. In my case I split my order of 4 in 2 separate orders of 2 so I had to invoke the process twice.For those folks that are waiting for either a meter or waiting for the expected delivery date to pass, don't bother. You're only letting PayPal collect interest off you cash because you certainly aren't going to get a meter. Just go to your Ebay account and file a not received claim now and you should have your cash back within minutes. I think the prize goes to those that called "Hijacked Account".

author: AmmoJammo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 04:35:45 am
content: Nah! I'm sure my 30 meters are going to arrive!

author: AmmoJammo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 04:38:31 am
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on January 01, 2015, 08:22:26 pmNope, I reckon that's legit..When I went to request a refund, I got a page that said:"We're sorry there's an issue with your purchase. Since you bought this item on US site, please go to US site try to resolve your problem."

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 05:01:47 am
content: Quote from: AmmoJammo on January 02, 2015, 04:38:31 amAs a general rule send a copy of the email to.spoof@ebay.comThey will investigate, usually fast (a few hours)You can always open a claim with Paypal. Just do it as item not received, Paypal is often noticed quickly by the vendors. Even if you make it a dispute just don't close the claim. Paypal likes evidence. If you suspect fraud create a pdf of the original item page right away. If ebay pulls the item (you won't have an image of the actual page) that pdf can be sent to paypal as evidence of what you purchased.

author: kolbep
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 06:08:28 am
content: I opened a dispute in the Ebay resolution center yesterday.Today I get this message :Good news! We issued you a full refund of XXX on Jan 01, 2015. The refund includes the purchase price plus original shipping and has been credited to your PayPal account.This case has been decided in your favor.Comments:After reviewing the seller's recent activity, we decided to expedite your refund.

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 09:10:41 am
content: As I was the greedy bastard that kicked this off, I plan to donate any money I get back to the forum. I filed a claim a few minutes ago and since mine is marked as shipped, I suspect I have to wait the requisite 4 days.Oh well, I'll keep scanning for deals. I've done pretty well to date.Jerry

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 09:16:25 am
content: Quote from: cncjerry on January 02, 2015, 09:10:41 amKeep your eyes open for @126.com in Paypal you can see the senders email. It's a favorite for Chinese fraudsters.

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 09:41:20 am
content: Sometimes miracles happen...A few weeks back I was looking for a Ti84+ calculator (as my toddler had smashed it), and I was going through all the resellers listed on Ti's website...The price for a new T84 in Belgium is of the charts, 133/120 Euros, and second hand one will get you a new one in the rest of Europe.So I was just doing the last few resellers, the ones that I would never go to (supermarkets and the such), before resigning myself to having to go and beg to have Ti83+Fr shipped to Belgium..(http://boutique.jarrety.fr/lycee/16-texas-ti-83-plusfr-2013.html)Then on the site of Makro (supermarket that sells in bulk to card holders) there was a Ti-Nspire Clickpad for 1 Euro!!!1Euro? Refreshed the page a few times, still one euro. Not a lot of detail, it could be the wrong kind (CAS versions are banned from exams here).Dug out my gf's client card and ordered one thinking this was never going to work. But for 1 euro, let's give it a shot.And when I bought it, the listing disappeared, so there was only one...As a side note the shipping was 5 times more expensive than the calculatorBut it was shipped and I am now the proud owner of a 2007 vintage Ti-Nspire.(That came in a very dusty blister that must have fallen behind something)

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 10:01:31 am
content: Makro here also sells in bulk to card holders, but to get a card just walk in through the door and get a day card free. The only reason they have a card is to target advertising to you. For me the biggest buying I do is tea, coffee and sugar for work. they have a record of what I bought going back to 1994, complete with prices and how I paid (electronic copy of the receipt) available on demand. Works great for returning stuff that is either faulty or not fit for use.

author: codeboy2k
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 11:52:20 am
content: Quote from: olivil on January 01, 2015, 06:54:45 pmYep, I'm like that. Mine was marked shipped too, and eBay cancelled the listing. They say I should contact the seller, which I did via eBay, and wait 4 days then they can step in. Doing it through paypal will be more hassle, I've always had difficulty with Paypal refunding money, but in this case eBay can be on your side so that will expedite it with PayPal.

author: kolbep
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 12:52:31 pm
content: With this auction, it was not marked as shipped. So I just opened up the dispute on Ebay, and the next day they processed the refund to my paypal account (they expedited the refund because of this sellers recent activity)With another auction (for the projector) it was marked as shipped, but I still went and did the dispute thing, and they also refunded me the next day for the same reason.In both cases, they did not wait for the seller response

author: cncjerry
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 02, 2015, 08:13:32 pm
content: My case was closed last night, money returned, fun over.

author: codeboy2k
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 03, 2015, 02:21:48 am
content: Quote from: cncjerry on January 02, 2015, 08:13:32 pmEven though eBay told me to contact the seller and wait 4 days, mine was closed today and refunded. I didn't even open a dispute yet, I only yesterday sent a message to the seller via the contact form (not that I expected him to read it, but that was the procedure eBay told me to follow)

author: Thilo78
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2015, 05:09:00 pm
content: Quote from: cncjerry on January 02, 2015, 08:13:32 pmSame here today. So no damage dealt, lesson learnt.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2015, 06:31:01 pm
content: Same here, opened the dispute and got the email about 10 minutes later. In the interim I did a PP purchase and 5 minutes later my bank fraud team called to verify it was me doing it.