Tektronix "Scope Revolution" announcement - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: allanw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2011, 08:42:58 pm
content: What do you guys think of this?http://www.scoperevolution.com/us/Tektronix's answer to Agilent's new scopes?

author: ejeffrey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2011, 08:50:07 pm
content: I think it is a pretty banner. Other than that, we will just have to wait and see, since they don't really provide any information about what the 'revolution' is.

author: DavidDLC
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 03:53:47 am
content: Since I was trying to get the WaveGen license for free and didn't get it, I'm thinking to sell my Agilent and buy this one if it offers better features and the price is within the same range.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 04:11:51 am
content: Quote from: Squonk on August 11, 2011, 09:03:34 pmYes, it's not hard to figure out what the "revolution" part isDave.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 04:19:48 am
content: i can imagine how much pressure they are in lately. the worst victim are the engineers.

author: elCap
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 04:56:23 am
content: I guess it's a tweaked MSO2000 series. I mean if they were caught by surprise by the Agilent release, how much can they really do in 6 month?But if they have done a big improvement of the spectrum analyzer, it would be very interesting. Spectrum analyze implementation on today's scopes aren't that great...

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 07:17:58 am
content: Maybe there should be a contest to see who guesses the closest?All will be revealed August 30th, I guess.Dave.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 08:43:12 am
content: Quote from: DavidDLC on August 12, 2011, 03:53:47 amJust install the trial and wind the clock back.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 10:51:22 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on August 12, 2011, 08:43:12 amor forward the time few years first then install, and wind back to this year.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 11:13:08 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on August 12, 2011, 08:43:12 amI can't believe it's that easy.Some swear it works, others have said it doesn't?Dave.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 12:10:28 pm
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on August 12, 2011, 10:51:22 amAssuming they are the same as the 6000 series ones, that won't work - they have an absolute expiry date 14 days from when they are requested, but no duration or start limitation. They won't install after the expiry date and will delete themselves on expiry but can be reinstalled if the clock is wound back. The new scopes might not allow the clock to go back as far as the old ones.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 03:07:50 pm
content: dont worry fix is coming when they see your #8

author: w2aew
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 06:03:17 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 12, 2011, 07:17:58 amI guess I wouldn't be eligible to vote ;-)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 11:55:45 pm
content: Quote from: w2aew on August 12, 2011, 06:03:17 pmNeither am IDave.

author: allanw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2011, 11:56:20 pm
content: When's your review going to be posted? :p

author: Lawsen
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 13, 2011, 10:43:19 pm
content: The Tek, Tektronix Revolution is a trend towards software enhanced oscilloscope to handle signals and electricity in three basic categories:1. Analog2. Digital3. RF, radio frequencyDave Jones hints it would be like a Letterman's or Swiss Army knife of the oscilloscope business. We have multimeters that could do a variety of measurements. The Tektronix Revolution is a try to take back some of market lost to lower end brands like Rigol, Owon, Hantek, and ADS. This new Tek scope might be as Dave Jones mentioned, analog like digital oscilloscope for analog signals, spectrum analyzer integrated in for radio frequency signals, and digital storage logic analyzer for digital signals within the same digital oscilloscope, but the personality is alterable by software within and twist of a knob or push of an on screen menu. This is multiple "scopes;" instruments in one compact and well layout unit. It will have a wide display for more comfortable to view at and displays more information. I have been without much work for the last three years, so this August 30, 2011 "Tek Revolution" is not for me. I would like to try an low end ADS-2062 with a wider display than the Rigol 1052E. It is a slower 500 MSa/s, which is fine for my hobby and seismograph applications. I would like to make a calculus analog computer with a FPGA chip and output the results onto an oscilloscope screen. Early announcement by Tek gets the public excited about their new multioscilloscope like the early days of high technology company early announcement of computer hardware like printers, computers, or products. The Tektronix revolution will probably surpass this ADS series that I like:

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 14, 2011, 06:04:19 am
content: Quote from: Lawsen on August 13, 2011, 10:43:19 pmProbably?It doesn't even look like they are in the same league.From the publicly available info - the fact that it has RF capability, and the rather large looking screen on the ghosted image of the scope on the site, it's clear that this thing isn't aimed at the low end market...Dave.

author: gregariz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2011, 06:22:51 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on August 14, 2011, 06:04:19 amI'm wondering how they will price it. I'd be pleasantly surprised if its less than 20K.

author: elCap
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2011, 06:37:27 am
content: After looking more in detail on Tek's products and the promotion image, I take my guess backI still think it will be a tweaked product, using existing tek technology. And I guess it will be using the MSO4000/5000 series, with RF being a seriously upgraded FFT function.Probably I will look like a complete fool Aug 31st...Anyway, it will be very interesting! The scope market is very interesting these days.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2011, 09:20:42 am
content: Quote from: Lawsen on August 13, 2011, 10:43:19 pmThat measure demo is horrible - you would NEVER want all those measurements at the same time, and it obscures most of the trace - I would hope you can make it only display the figures you're actually interested in.....Widescreen is a nice idea though.Never heard of this company before - looks like they are a distributor badgeing an OEM product - this is rarely good for updates etc.

author: ejeffrey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2011, 09:55:00 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on August 14, 2011, 09:20:42 amI used to love that feature on Lecroy WavePro scope I used in grad school. You could hit the measure button and see the entire panel of possible measurements. They were never all useful at once, but I found it a lot more convenient than having to go reconfigure the 6 measurements that could be displayed with the full size trace. It took up 3/4 of the screen, but it was so fast to pull it up and dismiss that it didn't matter. This is especially true for a 4 channel scope where reconfiguring the measurement parameters gets really annoying. Of course it helped that the lecroy had a fairly big screen, so you could get a reasonably useful representation of a single trace on the top 25% of the screen.It isn't a substitute for being able to configure a handful of parameters to display along side the full size trace, but I find it a very useful feature to have.

author: chscholz
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2011, 03:40:42 pm
content: Yes, theall parameter measurementis pretty cool. Sort of what one would expect all scopes to do as default. Also nice is that the GUI for all MSWindows based LeCroy scopes is the same all the way from WaveSurfer to 45 GHz LabMaster and 100 GHz sampling scope.Quote from: ejeffrey on August 14, 2011, 09:55:00 am