AN EVERLASTING BATTERY? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / projects

author: Isad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2015, 08:42:19 pm
content: Hi allSo i came across this one this day i read it and its sounded like atotal BS.It might be it might be real idk but thought this would beinteresting.Link:http://www.mexiconewsnetwork.com/news/bat-gen/

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2015, 09:09:45 pm
content: Very few details and strange promises.

author: Hugoneus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2015, 09:13:06 pm
content: There is no detail at all. Without detail, everything looks promising!I am a little skeptical about the 100 year claim. Are they talking about a completely closed "box" which lasts 100 years? At what power?"For now, Bat gen can only be used to power up household appliances, but this is just the beginning, as it is planned that it can boost the engine of an electric car very soon."I don't understand why that would be. We need more information before we can render an opinion based on science.

author: BlueBill
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2015, 09:33:36 pm
content: I call shenanigans.http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://es.pseudociencia.wikia.com/wiki/Arturo_Sol%25C3%25ADs_Herrera&prev=search

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2015, 09:39:35 pm
content: Plastic food jars with some black mass inside and hot glue on top. Seem to be very robust.

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2015, 09:52:09 pm
content: So it consumes stuff and generates output.Keep pouring stuff in, keep getting output forup to100 years when the electrodes are completely fouled by waste... ?Sounds like a fuel-cell with added waste products.

author: Isad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2015, 09:40:14 am
content: I first was like are those thing crystal cell but they dont seem like1 of those but if they are crystal cells then he is way behinde youtube.I have seen people run soem puls motor for 3 year with 1 cell but 100 yearsis a big promise.

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2015, 10:19:14 am
content: A battery at Oxford has been in use continuously, without recharge, since 1840:http://www.brera.unimi.it/sisfa/atti/1996/tinazzi.htmlThe Oxford Bell experiment used a type of dry battery invented by Giuseppe Zamboni in 1812. It can supply a current of 1 nanoampere through an internal resistance of several gigaohms.

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2015, 10:27:05 am
content: Quote from: helius on January 31, 2015, 10:19:14 amRead about that just the other day. Can't remember where. Slashdot maybe.

author: Isad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2015, 10:53:30 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 31, 2015, 10:15:34 amHahahaha

author: Isad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2015, 10:56:25 am
content: Quote from: helius on January 31, 2015, 10:19:14 amIts true there are battery that can run for that long.I have seen an i build 1 for my self and keept it for 2 years before i moved.But common 100 years and powering a car motor thats just shenanigans andthe funny part is that mexico thinks that they have found somthing.PS:Pls dont get offend by anything i say i know there are Mexican members here and i respect them.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2015, 01:08:08 pm
content: You still can make a Leclanche cell easily with air depolarising, using a thick zinc case and a very small air vent to keep evaporation low. will easily last a century at low discharge. You find old telephone batteries dating back to the 1920's that still are able to generate 1V5 into a 1M load.

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2015, 11:57:13 pm
content: For all these so-called inventions - forget about Voltage & CurrentIt's all about power (W)Veryverylittle.... and Energy Density (a different mostly unrelated discussion)

author: Pjotr
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2015, 01:40:31 pm
content: Quote from: Isad on January 30, 2015, 08:42:19 pmSuch claims have only one purpose: Fund raising!

author: Isad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 01, 2015, 06:12:01 pm
content: Quote from: Pjotr on February 01, 2015, 01:40:31 pmTruth and nothing but the truth.

author: aargee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2015, 12:11:26 am
content: http://www.sciencealert.com/watch-scientists-can-t-figure-out-how-this-single-battery-has-lasted-175-yearsI like how scientists are 'too scared' to study the batteries in case they wreck their incredible run.

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2015, 12:17:24 am
content: Since the maximum power output of the battery is a microwatt, to last 175 years it only needs 1.5 Wh of capacity. It's even less, since current only flows while the bell is in contact with one of the poles. It could be a hundred times less.

author: aargee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2015, 12:24:22 am
content: I agree. The interesting thing is that the battery has not seemed to suffer from self discharge, and that little ringer seems to be going regularly/all the time.