Immigration OT: Another way to solve country's problem? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2013, 03:23:32 am
content: popped out in my fartbook...http://www.ausfis.com/_sys/EN/lp_big_blue.aspx?af=auw_2071i wonder. similar to our country, we rely on immigrant workers to work in low rank positions. we need them as housekeeper, child carers, cleaning stuffs etc. i believe even in advanced countries too? i have relatives went to UK they said picking up Apple fruits as a job can give good income but i wonder how many UKers are willing to do the job. So it seems Aussies are looking for immigrants too? interestingly the web said.. "professional positions" so is it like ee engineersi doubt. what say you?

author: Shenandoah
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2013, 07:09:26 pm
content: All these adds and the cry "We want you" is another source of income that brings a lot of $$$ to gov when you first apply, to assessment bodies, and to immigration lawyers of course. Regardless whether you are accepted or not, they will make good profit out of it. And yes they need workers there, but unless you are the "perfect qualified" candidate you will never see the shiny visa on your pp. After you come then you will be working the low end jobs that don't require any of your high end qualifications.

author: Rufus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2013, 08:32:23 pm
content: Lol - give them some details confirming you speak English and are between 21 and 49 then the next step is giving them $192 from your credit card.Smells like a scam and that seems to be the general consensus on the net.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 02:00:23 am
content: Quote from: Shenandoah on July 03, 2013, 07:09:26 pmIt costs the Australian taxpayer a lot more than you will pay to the Government.I don't know about the Private Sector people involved,but they probably make good money.Allegedly,some employers have been lying about their requirements & getting "457" visas for people who they then employ in cruddy jobs at low wages.The Unions have made a fuss about this,so it is being investigated.If it is proven,these employers are in deep cow poop!

author: nitro2k01
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 05:44:23 am
content: Always read the fine print.Quote from: ausfis.comIs that so. What does ausfis.org's fine print say.Quote from: ausfis.comLooks extremely legit.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 05:55:01 am
content: Most countries are run like corporations, they have to show continued sustained financial growth year in and year out. Most countries do not breed fast enough, so the only way to maintain that screwed up logic is with immigration programs.

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 06:18:16 am
content: In the US the labor unions are mostly against legalizing illegal immigrants and/or the loosening of restrictions on obtaining a work permit because it makes the market more competitive.The labor unions in general strongly favor the Democrats over the Republicans.Most of the border states other than California tend to favor the Republicans and do not have a strong organized labor presence.The Democrats strongly favor loosening immigration restrictions and work permit restrictions, I'm sure largely because they know that they will most likely be thanked at the voting booth by these new citizens.So it will be interesting to see when both the union lobby and the immigration lobby collide and the Democrats have to decide which lobby they "love" more.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 08:10:51 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on July 05, 2013, 05:55:01 amscrewed up logicis what i have in mind but not specifically pointing to this immigration issue. i believe this immigration issue has something to do with local people or citizen and as aftershock effect from another economic condition. locals are hessitant to work in lower rank position due to lower "purchasing power" and lifestyle. indication of "local purchasing power" is much more make sense and more practical for us rather than things like GDP, i believe this is the screwed up logic they (gov) want to highlight as benchmark to their country. this "purchasing power" i'm not sure exact economic term, not PPP not per capita income not inflation, its has to do with the relation between per capita income and "goods prices" or "inflation rate" i'm not sure what keyword to search. but take for example fellow Americans and/or Aussies, you have averaged 5 times salary compared to us but i dont see you can afford 5 houses 5 cars 5 DSOs 5 everything as your lifestyle. so pretty much Americans "purchasing power" is equal to ours albeit US percapita income is 5X higher than us, well the figure 5 is just my guesstimate dont quote me on thatnow when it comes to this immigrantion issue, if say someone from our country immigrates to USA for example and work there for a period of time and make saving, he probably will come back and can afford to buy say not 5 but 2 houses 2 cars 2 everythings due to our lower index or whatever. since even lower rank position in USA is probably 2X or higher in term of salary compared to our middle or high class job position, similarly when immigrants that came to our country when they get home to their poorer economy country. its good for country's GDP, also good for immigrants. until they solve this screwed up logic, people will have a way as workaround... immigration.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 11:17:52 am
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on July 03, 2013, 03:23:32 amYes we have them over here, they live on state benefit , because our lot are soft or stupid, or complete pillocks.

author: Towger
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 01:07:10 pm
content: Quote from: AcHmed99 on July 05, 2013, 09:58:40 amUlster Bank over here did that that a few years ago. Bank of Scotland bought them. Shoe horned the back end systems on to NatWest's Mainframes, also bought by them. Fired all the Irish IT staff once it was migrated, then outsourced NatWest's IT to India and promptly fired most of the NatWest IT staff. All fine until last summer, until someone (they claim not) in India upgraded the system for running/scheduling nightly batches. The upgrade did not work, they tried to role back and ended up deleting all the batch scripts and corrupting the DBs, they then sat on their hands for several hours, this allowed the backup mainframes (which I believe syncs a couple of hours later) to become corrupted as well as all their automatic off site backup storage/systems. While they managed to get the Natwest system up a week or so later, the shoe horned Ulster Bank system which was on the same mainframe was totally screwed, and all the staff had long gone. It took almost a month before their customers and branches could access their accounts. The branches were handing out 500 cash per customer per day for weeks and recording it on paper. Some people took the opportunity to run around all their local branches daily. Even after the system was up and running, it took a few more weeks of manually running (and rolling) back batches before most of the FUBAR was fixed.The moral of the story is not to lose your IT expertise. Jim might be sitting there for 30 years, on a good salary, doing FA, but you can't cheaply replace that knowledge, and what could have been a 30 minute fix turned into the biggest banking IT disaster in the history of the world.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 05, 2013, 02:54:00 pm
content: hmm very bad. this is what happen when the law is manipulated, the gov doesnt think of their people, only their pocket i guess. there own people are suffering.