Raspberry PI Zero W 2 launched today - Page 1
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author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2021, 02:03:46 pm
content: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/new-raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-2/Still available, at least I could order one flagged as available at local reseller (https://mauser.pt/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=096-4559&src=raspberrypi), but they are sold as 1 unit per person.Regards,Vitor

author: djacobow
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2021, 04:18:18 am
content: Quote from: evb149 on October 29, 2021, 04:08:54 amNever ascribe to stupidity what can more easily be explained by malice.The product isn't profitable at the price it's offered, so they force you to pay shipping over and over. And that's just for hobbyists that need a few.Your can't design a product around it, unless it's also for hobbyists that will get the pi on their own.

author: jeremy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2021, 04:24:09 am
content: On the one per person; it isn’t great, but there is the whole component shortage going on…

author: djacobow
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2021, 05:36:21 pm
content: Quote from: jeremy on October 29, 2021, 04:24:09 amTrue, but the Pi Zero W has always been sold this way. You've never been able to buy more than one at one at the "Pi Foundation price". There are people who will sell you more than one at once on Amazon, but at a higher price.

author: brucehoult
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2021, 01:45:46 am
content: Quote from: jeremy on October 29, 2021, 04:24:09 amOne Pi Zero per order long predates the current component shortage. It was true at announcement in 2015. And it wasn't just a "shortage until production ramps up" thing either. It's *always* been true. There has never been a time when you could simply order 100 Pi Zeros at the advertised $5 each.Contrast that with, say, the Longan Nano, available for $4.80 from China or $6.13 from Mouser:https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Seeed-Studio/102991302?qs=RcG8xmE7yp15ihBCpLOGNg%3D%3DRight now it says 276 in stock. If you want you can order all 276 and they'll say "Thank you very much for your custom".Mouser carry Raspberry Pi. They have a lot of Pi 3B, Pi 3+. and Pi 4 in varying RAM sizes:https://www.mouser.com/c/embedded-solutions/computing/single-board-computers/?m=Raspberry%20PiSadly, they don't seem to have any *stock* at the moment (global component crisis etc). But if you want 100 or 500 Pi4 8 GB they'll be very happy to take your order now and deliver them when they get them on December 20th.They *don't* have Pi Zero. Never have.The obvious and surely correct reason is that the Pi Zero at $5 is being sold at a loss. It's not a commercial product. It's charity. The Raspberry Pi Foundation is *explicitly* a charity, not a business.

author: jeremy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2021, 01:51:15 am
content: Yes, I did some more looking and it seems that you are all correct:https://core-electronics.com.au/raspberry-pi-zero-w-wireless-bulk.htmlQuote

author: floobydust
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2021, 03:23:18 am
content: Quote from: brucehoult on October 30, 2021, 01:45:46 amMake no mistake, it's about profit and paying 200 staff, almost doubled their income in 2020:2020£95,818,8482019 £49,477,922Rumours of going on the stock market for funding, a valuation of $500M, but instead new investors are on board.https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/21/raspberry_pis_trading_arm_snagsNew Pi Zero W 2 seems like a nothing burger, just a price increase on an awkward design. RPi foundation says the semiconductor shortage is mainly affecting their 40nm parts such as the Pi 3 so why roll this out?Doesn't haveBluetooth 5,still uses Ethernet over SPI, no H265 or playing 720p. Mini HDMI yet the Pi4 uses micro HDMI?What's the point in this form factor, making the smallest cheapola PC board and then you need extra $$ to add on cable adapters to connect to anything.

author: brucehoult
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2021, 03:50:36 am
content: Quote from: floobydust on October 30, 2021, 03:23:18 amThat's not the definition of a non-profit. Non-profits can pay staff -- and very well. The restriction is on distributing profits to "owners". And they get donations.QuoteI can't see the logic behind it. It's a Pi 3 in a small form-factor, better for embedding (like compute module 3, but different). It's got all those lovely through-board holes to solder stuff to, not an unreliable socket.It must be 6x the performance of the Pi Zero on compute-intensive tasks. Maybe more, given its 64 bit. And it's got NEON, so up that by another factor of X, for tasks that can use it.