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New FLIR - recommendations - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: MattSR
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2017, 09:33:11 am
content: Hi Guys,I have had the FLIR One (original) and FLIR One version 2 (for iOS) now, and have found it to be very very handy, however I'm constantly needing to measure with much greater thermal range, and now that I'm playing with cars and air-cooled aircraft engines again, I ideally need a camera that has decent accuracy and range.The E4 hacks etc seem to have come to an end (I may be wrong but I don't have the time to read the huge thread to figure out the current state of play) so can people give me some pointers as to what to buy next?I am leaning towards the E series, but what do you guys think?Cheers,Matt

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2017, 01:44:57 pm
content: The E4 remains the best value for money complete camera solution. All firmware versions can still be upgraded to the full 320 x 240 resolution.You do not state a maximum temperature that you need to measure.Some of the phone based cameras are very good as well. They are not a complete solution and do need a phone host, but you are already used to that.Consider the appropriate model of Thermal Expert or Thermapp as they have their own threads on this forum and appear very capable. Both use a decent microbolometer and optical block. The SEEK Thermal offerings are still suffering from more noise in the image but you may wish to consider the latest models that are detailed in this forum and Mike did a video review of the all in one Reveal Pro unit.Fraser

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2017, 04:11:04 pm
content: Adding to what Fraser said, if you also have a budget that would help find you the best thermal imaging camera for your intended applications.

author: KD0CAC John
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2017, 06:01:32 pm
content: I would like to get in on the suggestions also ?I would like to use for at several uses , electrical diagnosis / repair , home construction insulation , auto diagnosis / repair .I am on dissibility , so doing this as a hobby & suppliment my fixed income .On the electrical side , that is mostly ham radio & test gear , find broken stuff then teach myself how to fix it and set up a radio shack & repair been .The auto repair & construction is getting beyond me now , but with one of these I could consult with my background in construction .Alternative energy is another for me , find broken & fix , problem there is the manufactures will not give diagrams etc. so harder to fix .Thermal imaging to me is keeping the magic smoke in - whether its heat you want or do not want , or find how your loosing it , keeping it to a min
Xintest HT-02 Review - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: SNGLinks
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2016, 12:41:49 pm
content: Same camera as here.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/chinese-thermal-camera-teardown-and-repair-video/

author: kazik70
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2017, 06:36:22 pm
content: Here you have a comparison with the hack flir e4 to 320x240
Understanding raw values of FLIR Lepton sensor - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Shaz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 29, 2016, 08:26:19 am
content: Hello!I'm interested in exploring the Lepton camera module for research and development purpose. Can someone kindly provide a sample copy of the file containing the raw sensor values?I also need to understand what are the different pieces of information in this file and their relevance. Also, Please suggest a suitable tool where the contents of this file can be explored.Thank you.

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2016, 01:04:24 pm
content: I think, this forum is a better place for your question:https://lepton.flir.com/forum/There are also some nice tutorials and a Lepton SDK:https://lepton.flir.com/sdk/https://lepton.flir.com/getting-started/lepton-quick-start-raspberry-pi/
Using a liquid crystal impregnated plastic sheet for thermal imaging-inexpensive - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2016, 09:02:43 pm
content: See photoThis sheet was a free sample I got from LCR Hallcrest - liquid-crystals.com They are in Glenview, IL, here in the USA. They also have a UK office.They have a lot of different applications that use them. They respond to temperature changes almost instantly.It seems to me that for electronics applications, cheap and reusable liquid crystal sheets likely work almost as well as an expensive thermal camera in many situations.You can also use it for finding leaks around windows.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2016, 09:57:01 pm
content: @cdev,This post that I made, and others that followed, regarding these thermally reactive LC sheets may be of interest to you.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/thermal-data-acquisition-using-nir/msg1095993/#msg1095993Fraser

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2016, 10:34:53 pm
content: Yes, its the same concept, but Edmund's offering is way overpriced!These plastic sheets are not suited for being used with lenses. However in a semi contact / radiant heat sensing application they work well.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2016, 11:57:00 pm
content: Don't think they are that useful as they (at least the ones I've seen) only operate over a fairly narrow temperature range

author: cdev
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2016, 12:04:46 am
content: Thats true, a very narrow range.. ten degrees C maybe. The ones I have go from 20-25 degrees C
A question about the Flir E4 (and, of course, hacking it) - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: cvanc
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2016, 02:35:03 pm
content: Does this E4-to-E8 hack still work if I buy a brand new E4 today? Or does the hack only work on older units?Thanks.

author: Notsolowki
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 14, 2016, 10:26:21 pm
content: Yea but there are some updated files in that 323 page teardown thread to make the 2.11 fw work without issues. Did mine yesterday no problem
Cadillac thermal camera video out help needed. - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Led555
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 04:18:07 am
content: I need some help troubleshooting my cadillac thermal vision cameras, I have 2 of them, both exhibiting the same symptoms. The cameras are in excellent shape, 2001 and 2003 year of manufacture.When I power them on, the video comes in but the image is just a moving white stripe. The stripe actually coincides with my arm movements and is very responsive. Sometimes I can even make out my silhouette.I have the camera connected to a 12v battery and the video feeds to a 32" TV running off of 120vac. The video wire is not twisted or shielded.I measured the motor voltage and I can see it starting off at 4v then settling down at solid 2v. Both of the shutter wheels are in great shape.Any help will be greatly appreciated.Thank you.

author: Led555
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 04:29:43 am
content: Quote from: Led555 on December 13, 2016, 04:18:07 am

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 11:23:53 am
content: Not having any idea what a Cadillac camera is, but looking at the display, i'd suggest looking at the video waveform on an oscilloscope - so you have some idea of what you're trying to display.At first guess, i'd say the cameras are working fine, but the scan rates are not supported by the monitor... possibly intended for whatever a Cadillac camera normally plugs in to.

author: Led555
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 01:43:34 pm
content: "cadillac night vision" camera is a Raytheon thermal camera unit that was designed for cadillac in 2000-2005.It has a 320x240 bst sensor and outputs composite NTSC. So I just wired the video output wires to an rca jack and plugged it directly to one of my video inputs on my TV. You may be onto something with the unrecognized format because one of my other computer monitors does not output anything, not even the white stripes.I don't have access to an oscilloscope, only a DVM.

author: Led555
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 02:06:08 pm
content: I found some information on composite video problems which resemble what I'm experiencing:https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=83372&p=736550They say "This is indicative of a cable that switches the ground and video signals around, thus making the cable unsuitable for the task." I never considered swapping the signal wires on my video out.

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 09:12:27 pm
content: i did a search for Cadillac on the forum, and there are some quite detailed posts over the last few years.Disassembly, repair, parts etc.Maybe one of those guys has some advice...?

author: Led555
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 14, 2016, 12:34:13 am
content: Thanks SL4P! I appreciate you taking the time to dig into this.It did turn out to be the switched wiring. I have one harness and it must've been wired wrong.At first I didn't really consider this being the issue because folks online mentioned that swapping these wires only inverts the colors.
Seek Reveal Pro  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: zhicks
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 18, 2016, 11:58:38 pm
content: Hello,I've had a longstanding interest in thermal infrared imaging and with the sub-$1000 costs of many cameras, recently decided to purchase one. This board has been a valuable source of information, and I've really appreciate all the quality information and comparisons of the cheaper cameras (eg, ThermApp, ThermalExpert and flir E4). I ended up getting a Seek Reveal Pro, as I was looking for a low-cost stand alone unit with a >9 Hz frame rate. I have attached some samples I've taken for comparison with other cameras of similar price. I have not seen many reviews of the Seek Reveal Pro yet, so I hope these are helpful. All images are directly from the camera with no modifications.Thanks!

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 19, 2016, 05:43:35 am
content: Hi, are you sure it's a Revealpro, not compact pro? The Seek's website says the revealpro is still unavailable as the time I post this.http://www.thermal.com/products/revealpro/Register to be notified when RevealPRO is available

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 19, 2016, 06:53:17 am
content: My bad, the Reveal Pro is already on sell, I watched it for a long time, but I don't have the $699 to buy it at this moment

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 19, 2016, 08:41:17 am
content: Quote from: zhicks on October 18, 2016, 11:58:38 pmTnx for this. I see that next (VGA) version might actually be usable.

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2016, 07:07:45 pm
content: Quote from: zhicks on October 18, 2016, 11:58:38 pmfor me it looks similar to the Seek XR images, just a bit better.how often the shutter rises? still once, under 10 seconds?

author: eng101
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 11:30:55 pm
content: I recently returned the Reveal Pro. I got it for PCB debugging but it just couldn't focus on anything that close, it really didn't seem like 320*240 resolution (or else the thermal resolution wasn't high enough). If I pointed it at a circuit board (from about 6 inches away) I could roughly make out some hot spots but I couldn't determine at all what was getting hot or what I was looking at. There was just no reference there, I couldn't see the outline of the parts or even the outline of the board.
FLIR DM284 Thermal Imaging Multimeter - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 01:25:54 am
content: Got spam from RS today. Hadn't seen this before:http://nz.rs-online.com/web/p/products/1244679/

author: targit
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 08:15:16 am
content: 160 x 120 and same price point as C2 ? and a reasonable DMM in 1 unit , very interesting.

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 08:23:01 am
content: Thousand bucks plus GST though.

author: targit
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2016, 09:02:41 am
content: same as the C2 and same as the caterpillar s60, except higher res and attached to a tool you would want to have with you anyway, still interested in seeing some real world reviews

author: targit
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 18, 2016, 04:00:13 am
content: I have been trying to find a price on the optional lithium battery pack, because those little AAA cells are not going to cut it for long. Cant find anyone selling it, RS don't seem to list it. I'm guessing it will be about $400 and push this off my Christmas list.

author: PTR_1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2016, 11:59:14 pm
content: I've been eyeing one of these off for a while now, much better resolution than the fluke with a built in thermal camera. I've not found many in depth reviews though. Im getting close to pushing that big buy button though, so when I do I'll get some photos up of it. Im not in a position to do any comparisons as I don't have any other thermal cameras (I have a fluke vt02 visual thermometer which has been handy, but far from a proper thermal imager).Anyone on here bought one that can give some feedback on these units?
What's the current 'sweet spot' for a used FLIR camera? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: cvanc
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2016, 11:22:14 pm
content: Hi all-Looking at a thermal camera buy. I intend to use it for both electronic (board imaging, fault finding) & environmental (structural, HVAC) purposes. I assume buying a used older model would both save some money and get me a perfectly fine and useful machine - right? Or has some recently introduced model upset my "buy used" belief?Anyway I'm curious to know if there is a standout model that would admirably perform these tasks and has stood the test of time. All input welcome - thanks.

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 29, 2016, 07:19:42 am
content: This is asked quite often...Best all around is probably still Flir E4 hacked to E8+.I believe you can get a very good discount onhttp://www.tequipment.net/FLIRE4.html:Ask here for code:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/eevblog-members-discount-at-tequipment/1000/If you would prefer something smaller with manual focus there is T.E. Q1 for 500$:http://www.i3-thermalexpert.com/products/t-e-q1/

author: cuda12
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2016, 11:07:42 pm
content: I think a used e30 or used e40 is the sweet spot because they go from $1100-$1400 on ebay and can become a e60 with a little work, the E40 is best because of bluetooth and mmx but usually run a little more unless it';s a deal, the e30 older model has the bluetooth wifi but the sellers never list the serial numbers so it is hit or miss but they go for just a little over the new e8 cost. And if you get an e30 that does not have MMX it's ok because the clarity and adjustable focus make up for it.
Flir One Android Compatibility  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: GabYoung92
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2016, 01:01:58 am
content: Finally bought a Flir One for Android and it arrived yesterday!BUT! It doesn't want to work with a Huawei GR5... No OTG support!I've only just got the mobile <1month ago so I can swap it for another one...I'm looking at the Motorola Moto G4 Plus which according tohttp://www.gsmarena.com/it has "USB Host" capabilityMy question is: Will the Flir one with on the Motorola Moto G4 Plus?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2016, 11:18:52 am
content: If it is an OTG capable Android phone like my Moto G generation 1 then yes it will work fine. You may need to check the orientation of the USB socket though. On some phones the FLIR One G2 ends up facing the user and needs an extension cable to use the camera facing innthe correct direction.I have used my FLIR ONE G2 on the Motorola MOTO G Gen 1 and MOTO E Gen 2 without issues.I have also bought used MOTO G phones cheaply that have broken SIM ports or failed audio as they still have WiFI/Bluetooth and are perfect as dedicated FLIR ONE G2 hosts.Fraser

author: GabYoung92
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2016, 12:52:09 am
content: Thanks for the replyThe Flir One G2 works on a Moto G4 Plus. the USB socket is the right way aroundThe Flir One G2 does not work on a Huawei GR5.

author: newex
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 03, 2016, 07:36:37 am
content: Flir One Android works perfectly with my Xiaomi Mi Max.

author: encryptededdy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2016, 04:58:26 am
content: Wow I'm actually surprised that such a modern Snapdragon 6xx based phone doesn't support USB-OTG.
Chinese thermal camera teardown and repair video - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2016, 11:29:33 pm
content: HI All,I have this up on my YouTube channel, but thought I would share it here in case it is of interest to anyone here.I purchased a cheap thermal camera from Aliexpress, it worked for a short time then died, this time got shorter and shorter, the seller was not being very helpful, so I pulled it apart to fix it, twice.On the plus side, I ended up getting 3/4 of my money back, and I have a working camera.Part1:Part 2:

author: SmartInfrared
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2016, 11:47:42 pm
content: How much for this thermal camera? Is the repair easy? Thanks.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2016, 11:54:32 pm
content: Hi,The issue was that it had been poorly made, it looked like it had some hand soldered post manufacture repairs or modifications, as can be seen in the video the parts were not installed very well, with flux residue left on the board, in the end the actual fault was a tantalum capacitor that had been installed backwards !Performance wise, it works, but it isn't amazing or anything.I paid US$230 for the camera, I notice that the prices are usually around US$280, however, due to the fault and the seller not being very helpful about it, I lodged a dispute and requested money back for my time spent fixing it (Aliexpress hold the money until the sale is completed), Aliexpress found in my favour (as I provided these videos as evidence of it being faulty) and I got US$150 back.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2016, 03:32:49 pm
content: I'm surprised a tantalum cap survived reverse polarity and almost behaved like an NTC, they usually fail far more excitingly.What resolution/framerate does it have? Any idea if it's a domestic Chinese sensor or they're using some common FLIR core?I found it interesting that the UI has almost no text, meaning they don't have to do any (poor) translation.

author: TheDefpom
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2016, 06:15:19 pm
content: From memory it is 80x60 maybe 6 frames? , but I might be wrong, I have a mailbag video which shows it's specs from the box.
EEV tube camera P4428 setup and manuals - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2016, 07:20:17 pm
content: Just put these up on fire-TICS, added a few notes and took some scope images while setting up a camera after repairs.The scope pictures are also applicable to the Argus1 tube based camera and probably most Pevicon tube cameras.http://www.fire-tics.co.uk/4428_setup.htmBill

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2016, 07:01:22 pm
content: Hi Bill,Great write up and wonderful to see the old gal running sweetly again after the TLC that you have provided.I have at least three, if not four, ARGUS 1 cameras so this information will be invaluableThank you for sharingFraser
Ultaviolet sensitive camera. - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2016, 01:54:31 pm
content: Not thermal camera related, but close enough.Is there cheap uv sensitive camera? I tried to search ebay etc, but the results gives uv filters for normal cameras.Are the optics and sensors for uv cameras as "hard" as thermal cameras to make?Alexander.

author: Berni
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2016, 02:15:45 pm
content: UV is about as far as you can get from thermal imaging alright.Most cameras are sensitive to UV but have some sort of filter in the optic path to stop it. Some webcams use a separate piece of glass or a brushed on coating on a lens to filter out unwanted wavelengths. But the thing is that some kinds of glass also absorb certain UV wavelengths so the optics them self might suck up some of it.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2016, 02:20:32 pm
content: Depends what you mean by UV - what wavelength range ?

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2016, 02:22:25 pm
content: Check out the FUJIFILM X-T1 IR That goes from NIR to UV. Expensive though...

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2016, 02:30:16 pm
content: Something like that.

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 21, 2016, 03:41:47 pm
content: Lenses that transmit UV are very expensive, because (much like infrared lenses) they must be made from special materials. With thermal cameras, resolution is very low anyway, so the aberrations from simple meniscus lenses are not too apparent: UV photography is much more demanding and lenses are correspondingly more sophisticated. Far ultraviolet (below 200nm) is blocked by virtually all materials and even oxygen in the air, so this spectrum is still largely unvisualized.

author: eliocor
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 21, 2016, 07:33:39 pm
content: Maybe this can be interesting for you...http://uvirimaging.com/2016/07/03/diy-shortwave-uv-image-converters-for-solar-blind-and-ruvis-imaging/
Can I disable the color pattern indicator on Flir ix? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 01:05:06 am
content: Hi everyone.Can I disable the color pattern indicator on my Flir ix(on the bottom of the screen)?Also, how to change the font size?Thank you.

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 09:32:38 am
content: for that you have to change the firmware and this is not a simple thing.The images contains a normal preview (what you see in browser) and a raw thermal frame, this can be translated with some applications and can be stored without the scale if wanted.

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 04:04:58 pm
content: Quote from: joe-c on November 05, 2016, 09:32:38 amThank you.I tried every file I can open and didn't find those settings, so maybe it's hard coded

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 10:05:03 pm
content: Quote from: sam1275 on November 05, 2016, 04:04:58 pmthats possible.but, what exactly you want? do you want this only on images, or did you want this on Screen.if on Screen, maybe this two Telnet commands help, if your FW support this:rset .ui.userSettings.hideAll truerset .ui.userSettings.hideGraphics true

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 06, 2016, 05:16:30 am
content: Quote from: joe-c on November 05, 2016, 10:05:03 pmThank you, I want to hide the color palette, and make the main temperature indicator very small, both on the screen and on the final picture, because I feel they use too much space.
Cheapest Thermal Cameras for R&D - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Shaz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 11:32:22 am
content: Can Anyone suggest the cheapest thermal imaging sensor for research and development purpose (specifically for imaging humans for studying the skin temperature)? basically I am asking regarding some thermal camera module that can be assembled with arduino/freeduino/other, to obtain thermal images. The existing commercial ones are very expensive to be procured by students working independently. The basic goal is to design a system that can capture thermal images and provide them in standard image format for further image processing.

author: Shaz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 05:42:43 am
content: Can you please be more specific as I am new to this study and still in exploration phase.

author: plesa
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 08:54:58 am
content: Cheapest infrared camera with 320x240http://www.thermal.com/products/compactpro/Mike did review and teardown

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 09:11:48 am
content: Quote from: plesa on November 05, 2016, 08:54:58 amthis camera is a bad choose. Or is the "patent pattern" gone?for 500 + shipping you get a Thermal Expert Q1 with 384x288 Resolution and much less noise.But i think a hacked E4 is a better choose for this case. Resolution 320x240, very good digital filters, Visual camera, full calibrated temperatures and a lot of Camera supported Measurements.And with the PC you can download the images. and there is a Network mode, with that you can download a full thermal frame to pc (4 sec. per frame), this frame could be directly analyzed and/or stored.
Flir vue pro - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: xbnipx
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 31, 2016, 02:59:05 pm
content: Hey guys I was wondering if anyone owns a flir vue pro camera? Do the 640 and 336 models have the same sensor? If so I was wondering if it is hackble like the Ex or EXX series camera. Thanks

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 31, 2016, 04:24:40 pm
content: No, A different microbolometer is used for each resolution.The Tau/Vue series configuration settings are not as easy to access as the FLIR E4 as configuration is held in firmware. They do not run WinCE.Fraser

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2016, 10:17:40 am
content: On a side note, the FLIR Vue PRO R has an accuracy of ±20°C or 20% when flown at 100m!!! I wouldn't touch that with a barge pole!
Seek reveal Pro review & teardown - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2016, 05:38:31 am
content: I found it a bit funny that the high-FPS version's framerate is mentioned as ">15Hz" in theirdatasheet, and indeed 16 > 15. It still looks rather slow for good video though, and I wonder why, if they were going to be export-restricted anyway, they didn't go for the full 30Hz --- maybe due to processing to remove noise? It'd be interesting to see what raw signal the sensor outputs.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 19, 2016, 09:27:15 am
content: Output rate from sensor appears to be 16Hz. The lag suggests they may be doing a moving avarage of a few frames

author: encryptededdy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 20, 2016, 04:12:18 am
content: As mentioned in the video comments, it looks like the frame rate increases significantly when you switch from full frame to normal mode.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2016, 07:19:06 pm
content: Another interesting video MikeFraser

author: SmartInfrared
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 24, 2016, 11:59:24 pm
content: Mike, the teardown process is very neat. thanks.

author: Koen
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2016, 12:03:31 am
content: Thank you Mike but what would you then recommend for electronic debugging ? Thank you.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2016, 09:05:29 am
content: Quote from: Koen on November 25, 2016, 12:03:31 amCheapest : Seek Compact pro - phone add-on, framerate very phone dependentMost useful : Hacked FLIR E4 with lens adjust tool
FLIR Tools Mobile 1.7.1 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: andersm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 30, 2016, 07:54:41 pm
content: In the latest update for the app, they've added a mandatory registration and login. You can't use the software without signing up for "FLIR Systems' global eco system", whether you want to or not.If you have installed the app, I suggest you head to your nearest app store and tell these twats just how much they should fuck off.
Help spec'ing a high-end system - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: bleedinge
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 01:28:15 pm
content: Hi,I know this is my first post (hi all!), and could have chosen an easier topic, but now I'm in the middle of this, so here it goes...I need to spec a system that will include two cooled cameras that should work in the 1mile - 7mile range. Both should provide full radiometric information.The minimum specifications for these cameras would be:- LWIR:640x512 MCT,15um pitchNETD lower than 23mK @ 293Kcontinuous zoom. I'm guessing 25-250 lens would work- MWIR:640x512 15um pitchNETD lower than 20mK @ 293Kcontinuous zoom. I'm guessing 25-250 lens would workI'm looking for manufacturers that could provide these cameras and if some of you know about it, what would be the typical price for each of this cameras? The IR detectors I've been looking at come from sofradir, and they have a child company that manufactures cameras and a couple of them, might fit in.Any other manufacturers (besides flir, I suppose) that I should be looking at?Thanks!

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 02:10:56 pm
content: Infratec do amazing high-end cameras - from the demos we had of their cameras, they were superior to FLIR in almost every way. However, they are quite expensive! One of the high end cameras we looked at were about €100,000!!!http://www.infratec.co.uk/thermography/infrared-camera.htmlThis camera fits your spec for MWIR:http://www.infratec.co.uk/thermography/infrared-camera/imageirr-8300-hp-series.htmlThis one possibly for LWIR:http://www.infratec.co.uk/thermography/infrared-camera/variocamr-high-definition.htmlIIRC the latter goes for about €30,000

author: bleedinge
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 17, 2016, 06:24:00 pm
content: Quote from: Chanc3 on October 17, 2016, 02:10:56 pmThey do look really nice indeed...QuoteYes, this camera looks really good, and specwise, it fits the requirements. The issue that caught my eye is that the lenses that appear in the datasheet don't look like what I need.They only offer fixed focal length lenses, and I need either a continuous zoom optic system or a multiple field of view optics (this is preferred). Something that would work is switchable UWFOV, WFOV, MFOV and NFOV lenses.QuoteSadly, it is not a cooled camera and it doesn't have an optic system that will work eitherThanks for answering
Flir Ex with 2.11 and RNDIS mode - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: jms
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 05:36:21 pm
content: I have a Flir E6. I switched it into RNDIS mode and checked the ports with nmap.nmap found the following active ports:TCP:21: FTP23: Telnet80: HTTP139: netbios443: https445: smb22136: ? (appcore)22176: ? (AppServices)22177: ? (Resmon)UDP:67: DHCP22100: ? (AppServices)What is on the ports 22176/22177/22100? Is it uPnp?

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2016, 09:52:12 pm
content: I use port 23 with Telnet to get access to the Command line.the other ports looks interesting, i maybe look later at it...and the FLIRInstallNet.exe can be used to set install a FW or send commands, it has a basic telnet console.
Hofer/Aldi thermal camera - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2016, 04:18:13 pm
content: You know thermal cameras are becoming consumer goods when Hofer (Aldi) starts to sell it.It looks similar to FLIR TG165...(Slovenia)https://www.hofer.si/sl/posebna-ponudba/posebna-ponudba-od-cetrtka-13-10-2016/produktdetailseite/ps/p/rothenberger-termovizijska-kamera/(Austria)https://www.hofer.at/de/angebote/ab-donnerstag-13102016/detailseite/ps/p/rothenberger-industrial-thermokamera/

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2016, 06:12:32 pm
content: Perhaps this is original brand "KIMO":https://www.camera-thermique-online.com/cameras-thermiques-economiques/105-kimo-ikam-110-camera-thermique-infrarouge.html1000€ for 80x80 is far from cheap...

author: nuno
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2016, 06:24:24 pm
content: Or is it CES?http://www.cem-instruments.com/en/Product/detail/id/683/pids/888Bought one at Reichelt, they were selling these last year for ~800€. (created a topic at the time, but no comments,https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/cem-dt-980-thermal-camera/)

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2016, 06:54:40 pm
content: Quote from: frenky on October 07, 2016, 06:12:32 pmhmm... or pay a little over the half an get a Thermal Expert with 384x288 Resolution... hard choice

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 07, 2016, 07:18:34 pm
content: True true

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 07, 2016, 07:30:03 pm
content: Including a headphone? why...

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2016, 05:49:11 am
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on October 07, 2016, 07:30:03 pmi guess they have a audio note function....or they provide a power supply with headphone connector, but that was strangeanyway, its better than that:https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCT416S1-12-Volt-Imaging-Thermometer/dp/B0088EZZ78

author: tronde
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2016, 05:41:20 pm
content: Quote from: PA0PBZ on October 07, 2016, 07:30:03 pmThe manual says " Videos are recorded with audio track so you can addcommentary whilst filming."Manuals:https://www.hofer.at/de/infos-und-services/services/serviceportal/detailansicht/sis/si/8833176797185/
Flir Exx and Ex update coming shortly? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: kaz911
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2016, 04:04:28 pm
content: Seems like everybody is running bigger than normal specials on Flir Exx/Ex series like buy E50 and get E60 - or 1/2 price on E5 etcSo are the new models trickling in anytime soon?
Please Which thermal image camera (750 €)? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: DRU
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: October 04, 2016, 02:10:15 am
content: thanks

author: Ice-Tea
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2016, 05:36:01 am
content: You might want to elaborate a bit on that. This is the equivalent of "which car should I buy".. All depends on what you want tot do with it. Your needs may vary depending on whether you want to use use (the car) in the Australian Outback or a daily commute in an urban area etc etc...

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2016, 07:55:52 am
content: Right, it depends on your needsi suggest a "Thermal Expert Q1", this seems to be actual the best for less price.

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 04, 2016, 12:55:54 pm
content: I totally agree above posts.Besides, how about the most popular one in the forum? The Flir E4?http://store.flir.com/product/e4-infrared-camera-refurbished/refurbished-ex-seriesFactory refurbished, about € 625.
A few question about Flir ix - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:04:10 am
content: Hi everyone, does Flir i3/5/7 have video recording or live video output function? I cannot find them in the manual/datasheet, I can only see it can take picture to SD card.

author: rjardina
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 16, 2016, 10:57:00 am
content: It does not.

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 17, 2016, 05:05:36 pm
content: Quote from: rjardina on September 16, 2016, 10:57:00 amSeems some flir camera can output live video through usb, but I don't know if ix have this ability...
Thermal camera teardown - The IRISYS IRI1011 by Fraser - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:43:58 pm
content: I purchased a complete IRISYS IRI1011 thermal camera kit.More about the purchase may be read here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/fraser-has-lost-his-mind-its-official-!-bought-an-iri-1011-camera-!/msg1006319/#msg1006319Tonight I found time to do a quick teardown of the IRI1011. This camera is the forerunner of the FLUKE VT02 and VT04 visual thermometers which are made by IRISYS.I am posting slightly larger pictures in this teardown by popular request from readers of my posts.Enjoy !Fraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:45:56 pm
content: Beginning the journey inside......

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:47:23 pm
content: More Pictures....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:48:40 pm
content: More Pictures....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:49:54 pm
content: More Pictures....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:50:58 pm
content: More Pictures....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:52:18 pm
content: More Pictures....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:53:29 pm
content: More Pictures....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:54:52 pm
content: The Redeye 2 Imaging sensor designed and fabricated in the UK by IRISYS......

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:56:02 pm
content: More Pictures....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 09:57:29 pm
content: More Pictures....
assigning colour palette based on temperature values - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Shaz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 11:17:12 am
content: Can anyone specify how to Assign a value of RGB to a temperature value for creating an RGB (rainbow palette) thermal image? I am interested in knowing if there's any standard convention for doing so like some algorithm or formula?Example of the type of RGB image that is needed as final output: PLEASE SEE ATTACHMENTSOURCE OF ATTACHMENT:http://mediaserver.dwpub.com/press-release/29167/CST+bilat+hyperaemia+example.png

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 12:05:15 pm
content: In my seek-o-fix app I did it like this...Read rgb values of a pallete image into matrix[3,1000].Then calulate min and max temperature from sensor and map that values to the 0-1000 range.Then draw colorful image like this: If mapped pixel value is 100, then go to matrix array and read out R,G,B values at index 100 and so forth...Source files:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/seekofix-new-windows-software-for-seekthermal/msg914515/#msg914515

author: Shaz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 08:42:31 am
content: Thanks a lot!Can I get some help in terms of doing the same in Matlab?

author: joe-c
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 09:29:08 am
content: Quote from: Shaz on November 05, 2016, 08:42:31 ami don't know Matlab. but here is a c# source for pseudocolor from a grayscale image with aforge (open source image processing lib for .net).http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/programm_pseudocolor_75.php
A few questions about portable TIC - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2016, 07:00:25 pm
content: Hi everyone, I'm looking for a small TIC around $500, I do have some knowledge about TIC and also did some online research these days, finally I have a few conclusions:I'll really happy if there's a cheap used E4 on ebay, but no, ebay price are all equal or more than official $995, flir refuburished ones are even cheaper than ebay.I want a self contained camera, because the phone addons feel like toys.I cannot bear res less than 160*120.Seek reveal have a low image quality, MUCH lower than my old firefighter camera.Flir scout TK seems okay, but it have too strong noise reduction, which make the image look like a drawing instead of a photo, the details really suffer. Can anyone hack it's firmware?I just want a portable one which can have a useble image without help like MSX crap, any thoughts? Thank you.

author: encryptededdy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 22, 2016, 02:33:08 am
content: Unfortunately I don't think there's any standalone cameras that meet your requirementsThe ThermalExpert Q1 is excellent value but not standalone.

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 22, 2016, 07:15:36 am
content: For my T.E. Q1 I'm working on contraption like this:+2x(One for phone and one for thermal module)End result will be like this:It's much more convenient option compared to having module stuck on the side of phone.True it's not self sustained unit but it's close and price/performance is unbeatable...

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 22, 2016, 09:20:33 am
content: Within the budget stated. only used cameras and the Thermal Expert would be likely solutions. Thermal cameras have dropped in price at the consumer end of the market but they are still a significant investment. $500 is barely enough to buy a decent used FLIR camera with the resolution you require. As Frenky states, the Thermal Expert can be bought for this sort of money but remember you may have to pay import duties and taxes.I have bought the parts to make teh and grip holder that Frenky has shown. i will be using it with a FLIR ONE Gen 2 camera and my Moto G phone.If you do not already have a suitable phone, look for a faulty one on ebay. Choose one that is showing a Network fault, Sim fault or no audio. These are often quite cheap and work fine with the thermal camera modules. Buy the fasted model you can find at a reasonable cost.The Wi-Fi is normally independent of the Network connectivity so should still work for App downloads etc. The USB socket provides image file access.Not the all in one solution that you are hoping for but unless you scour ebay for 'bargains' like i do, you are not likely to find what you want for less than $500.Fraser

author: sam1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2016, 03:03:15 am
content: Thanks to everyone!
Mystery thermal camera Germanium lens - anyone recognise it ? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 06:13:36 pm
content: I bought a dinky little thermal camera lens some time back and have no idea from which camera it came. I bought the lens from the same seller who supplied my Ex SCOTT Fire Brigade thermal camera Raytheon 300A core, but the lens does not look to come from such a camera core.The high quality Germanium lens elements are mounted in a smooth sided shell that does not have any threads for focus adjustment. It was either a sliding adjustment, as found on some FLIR Photon and Tau cameras, or it sat in another component that was adjustableDoes anyone recognise this little lens please ?The diameter of the aluminium shell is 22mm with a depth of 10mm.Fraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 06:15:09 pm
content: More pictures....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 06:16:49 pm
content: More pictures....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 06:17:53 pm
content: Final picture....Fraser

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 07:19:33 pm
content: Nice reflection of your conservatory there Fraser, you have a nice eye to getting those shots well composed.

author: Refrigerator
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 07:42:05 pm
content: Looks like it had some hand written numbers on it, would most likely be a serial number.Hand written serial no. means short production runs.My guess would be some expensive, non-consumer thermal camera, possibly military, the lens was maybe surplus or NOS.

author: Seekonk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 09:00:30 pm
content: I was doing some IR stuff years back at work and we bought a sapphire lens that cost thousands. Seemed awful pricey for something that had bubbles in it. Years later I got the lens I bought at a surplus auction from the company in a box of stuff. Never did find a use for it.

author: TurboTom
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2016, 11:38:01 am
content: Possibly might have been from one of those automotive night vision IR cams? I've got an autoliv NV3 "paperweight" cam here and the lens looks pretty similar.Cheers,Thomas

author: Refrigerator
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2016, 08:13:40 pm
content: Put "Air-Spaced Achromatic Doublet" in google images, it comes up with a few similar looking lenses, also pictures of telescopes, which might suggest the lens could have come from a telescope ?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2016, 08:15:15 pm
content: Thanks for all the suggestions folksFraser
Seek compact Pro review & teardown - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 22, 2016, 08:45:47 am
content: Nice review.That option in the settings about image smoothing...I've tested that setting in the past and it reduces visible noise but at the same time images get more "bloby".

author: NathanFowler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 23, 2016, 12:49:37 am
content: Great video thanks Mike. At Seeks price point the video quality of TE really puts the pressure on Seek, hopefully the next application release addresses the UI/stability issues. Thank you for making the video. One thing to note I do not have MSX gain noise when doing the below instead of translucent tape:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-one-on-amazon-$179-(ios-and-android)/msg982395/#msg982395
FLIR Tools PC software compatible with FLIR one for android? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: lordymosh
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 18, 2016, 03:36:47 pm
content: Hi,I was gonna download Flir tools on my pc to examine and manipulate photos and videos that I take with FLIR one for android. However, the FLIR one is not listed on the type of products. Does it not work for FLIR one?I have FLIR tools on my phone but it doesn't have as much stuff as the PC version.

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2016, 04:40:16 pm
content: Flir Tools for PC works great with images from the Flir One.sreenshots:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-one-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown-and-hacks/msg801504/#msg801504