Sniffing out porn - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Silveruser
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2016, 10:23:35 pm
content: http://www.sltrib.com/news/4031044-155/utah-k-9-sniffs-out-porn-Dave seems good at sniffing out the age of old electronics but can he find memory cards with porn?

author: suicidaleggroll
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2016, 10:29:41 pm
content: Onion in disguise?Edit: Nope, just a really, REALLY poorly written article that buries something that's actually kind of cool under a mountain of sensationalist bullshit in order to increase page views...

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 12:17:55 am
content: So, what if I hide the flash drive in a light fixture in the ceiling, well above where the dog could smell? Or I could hide it inside of large sausage in the fridge! What if I hid a small flash drive *inside* a larger flash drive?!I smell a bit of bullshit here... What exactly would cause a flash drive or SD card to smell different from any other electronics in a plastic case? The article says the dog wouldn't be confused by a remote control or other electronics, so what exactly are they smelling? Do flash chips give off a particular odor? It can't be the plastic, because I've got flash drives that are made with different types of plastic.

author: metrologist
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 12:52:55 am
content: Quote from: timb on June 23, 2016, 12:17:55 amThey're smelling the jism that you've transferred to the evidence after completing the deed. O0It is interesting to think that certain components can have a distinct smell...

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 01:05:56 am
content: Quote from: timb on June 23, 2016, 12:17:55 amIts not the plastic its the funny withe stuff that got stuck onto the SD card.. Noone masturbates a hot dog!

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 01:09:12 am
content: Then wouldn't using a napkin or Fleshlight to catch your DNA deposit (followed by washing your hands, like most normal people do, at least I hope they do) defeat this then?

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 01:19:00 am
content: No, since this is about child porn!There are differences between adult porn and child porn and this dog is pretty damned good at the latter!

author: System Error Message
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 01:24:24 am
content: come on guys, being active and engineers im sure you dont need porn when you can get laid for the real thing rather. Surely you engineers can find someone easily.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 02:42:45 am
content: The real thing is great. It's like a good steak. But sometimes you just want a hot dog. Quick and easy.

author: Don Hills
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 06:14:04 am
content: Quote from: metrologist on June 23, 2016, 12:52:55 amOur host is rather good at this.

author: lapm
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 09:16:18 am
content: I wonder how mad that dog would go when searching someones decade old electronics lab

author: vodka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 06:16:20 pm
content: The measure versus Police -dog is use the rest crushed of the distilled garlic, when dog smelled it will go out running

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 08:47:03 pm
content: It says in the article:QuoteInterestingly, it also says the dog cost $10,000 and:QuoteSo there are a few things going on here. One... Utah? Why Utah? Two... I assume it is to get people who are already suspected of possessing underage images. They are not just busting randomly into houses looking for general-purpose legal stuff. [EDIT: See below.] Three... Does Utah have different laws than the rest of the country? [EDIT: See below.]Oh sh#t.... I just found this out....http://abcnews.com.co/utah-makes-pornography-illegal/Wow! That explains it. They are turning into a police state where they will be busting in on everyone and confiscating their hard drives, video tapes and flash drives and searching for files and fining and jailing people. Next, they will be asking ISP's to either provide IP addresses of everyone who has visited porn sites (to bust them), or asking all ISP's in the state to block all porn sites, or perhaps use it for surveillance so they can bust people suspected of viewing anything online.Question: Is Utah the ONLY state in the union to make possession or viewing of porn by all people (even adults over 21 years of age) illegal?Slippery slope.... (No pun intended)....According to these articles, it is not actually illegal in Utah and there are no actual fines or jail time, so what is going on?:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/utah-declared-pornography-a-health-crisis-utah-is-wrong_us_5716541fe4b06f35cb70ae7bhttp://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-04-22/utah-is-off-base-declaring-pornography-a-public-health-hazardAnd then there's this legal code which does show fines and jail time:http://www.lectlaw.com/files/sex03.htm

author: Ian.M
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 09:36:35 pm
content: Nehemiah Scudder for President?http://robinrowland.com/writing/robert-heinleins-nightmare-vision-elected-dictator-2016/

author: Cerebus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 10:40:47 pm
content: Quote from: timb on June 23, 2016, 12:17:55 amA bit more than bullshit I think. The police in the USA regularly use sniffer dogs to establish 'probable cause' for a search. If they can convince enough people that the dog can magically differentiate between different types of (chemically identical) electronics they don't have to worry about that pesky constitution or any of those messy civil rights and they can claim probable cause for searching anyone carrying or possessing electronics. There's quite sound research that shows sniffer dogs tend to react more to their handlers than to what they actually smell -https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3078300/] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3078300/ for example.

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2016, 11:10:13 pm
content: Quote from: edy on June 23, 2016, 08:47:03 pm

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2016, 01:49:45 am
content: I have been bamboozled!. Thanks for pointing out it was a spoof site!

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2016, 04:08:57 am
content: Quote from: edy on June 24, 2016, 01:49:45 amdon't worry mate, if the truth be told I was half way through writing a post like yours (after having done some google research) before I thought, no this cannot be, and triple quadruple checked!

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2016, 04:57:00 am
content: Utah.. Mormons... it kinda make senseQuotequick, let's sue pornhub! let's sue redtube... NO LET'S SUE GOOGLE!but at least this is awesomehttps://www.facebook.com/fappythedolphin/("fappy the anti-masturbation dolphyn")

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2016, 06:20:55 pm
content: If porn is a public health crisis, what could be said for violence? (Yes, sometimes the two go together.) That somehow having a minor see the creation of life is worse than them seeing the destruction of it?I really wonder if it's the biggest example of the Streisand Effect. That it is made a bigger deal than it is because it's "forbidden".

author: zl2wrw
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 26, 2016, 06:07:30 am
content: I do not doubt the sensitivity of a suitable dog's nose (a while ago I was doing tracking with a german shepherd dog club - with training, their tracking ability is amazing), however, I seriously doubt the ability of a dog to discriminate a memory storage device from any other electronic device that is made from the same stuff (FR4 PCB, resin IC packaging, fire retardant plastic casing, etc).I would not be surprised if they used a trained dog to say find a TF/microSD card in a literal hay stack, but I seriously doubt the ability of a dog to find that same SD card in a room full of electronic trinkets.

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 26, 2016, 09:06:05 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on June 23, 2016, 10:13:41 pmI personally know a Chinese man who admitted to smuggling $US 40,000 out of China with the notes strapped around his legs and torso. I asked what would happen if he got caught. He said the money would likely be taken from him and he would be then allowed to fly out. Nothing recorded.Smuggling money out of China is possibly the world's biggest criminal activity today, with banks involved, couriers, front companies and other rackets.

author: TheWelly888
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 26, 2016, 12:38:34 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on June 23, 2016, 10:13:41 pmThe basic tool of all the secret police forces in history - blackmail!

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 26, 2016, 02:50:36 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on June 23, 2016, 10:13:41 pmOur +7 levels of different goverments even go further. They create a clowd of overlapping, contradictory, uncomplete, overcomplex laws.This way, everybody that de-facto comes out of his sofa to undertake something, is illegal following some aspect of some interpretation of some law.After collecting the evidence, they can choose who is guilty and who not, based on bureaucratic ties.The same situation in court is laughed away one day, and taken very seriously if the "right" advocate defends it before the "right" judge.