what a screwdriver recommended for a man passionate about electronics? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / beginners

author: Benta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 11:31:33 pm
content: Hello, I'm Horst and I live in SaxonyI work at the undertaker, but my hobby is electronics; i try to repair electrical devices, 99% of the time I don't solve the problem, but that's okayMen usually read football magazinesbut there are men who prefer to make love with electronsMy equipment is: soldering station, two multimeters, bench power supply.I'd like to start a seductive relationship with a screwdriver..I don't want to spend too much, but I don't want to buy the worst...For example the model PB Swiss 6100 is ok for beginner man? or better Wera 917 SPH?Other brands on these prices?Do you have any advice for me? i am in your hands...thanksHorst.

author: tkamiya
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 11:43:37 pm
content: So.... you are passionate about screw drivers.... huh?Anywho...What size are you needing? Tiny, small, large or magnum? Electric or manual? Ultra thin or....I'm somewhat disappointing with Wiha. Tips were not as well construed as the price suggested. It's not hardened enough. Few uses, all critical edges were lost and started slipping. All kidding aside, I really wasn't impressed with Wera. As to recommendations, I don't have any. I had a fair luck with Chinese made kind. Not the absolute cheapest kind but good 10 to 20 dollars for a set. I just don't expect much from them (or any one of them), and as the points dull, I just replace. You know, stamina isn't there.

author: atmfjstc
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 12:10:18 am
content: Quote from: Benta on September 21, 2020, 11:31:33 pmIt's the other kind of charge carriers that might be more appropriate for this application, methinks...

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 12:10:25 am
content: You will fall in love with a Reed and Prince (or Prince and Reed) screwdriver. Only someone truly passionate about cross-headed screws will be able to identify it.https://chapmanmfg.com/products/reed-prince-frearsonAlso known as a Frearson screwdriver, but real tool lovers call it by its real name.

author: Zeyneb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 12:35:46 am
content: Thanks for pointing out you're male. That totally changes the recommendations I had in mind.Go for the unbreakable ones that are used in space repairs. And since you're male don't cry if you run out of budget to do anything else on your electronics hobby.

author: WattsThat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 12:51:28 am
content: I’m not sure which is worse. When my tool jumps out of the slot or when my tip breaks off

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 01:01:44 am
content: Ideally screw....drivers...should be free. However, if you are unable to get free screw....drivers, definitely go for expensive. Cheap screw...drivers are hazardous to to your health and safety.I'd recommend Knipex or Stahlwille.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 01:25:57 am
content: Quote from: Zeyneb on September 22, 2020, 12:35:46 amwiha bit kit for 50$ with the extension will get you most stuffI recommend taking care of it (build a block of wood that you put the bits in that is solid) and take care of them with oil.Mine got rusty because of a corrosive flux spill, I actually took the time to wire brush every bit then clean it up with a diamond sharpening stone (lap) on ever facet. Don't keep buying screw drivers. I used to use a vice grip for screwshttps://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-Tools-75992-Esd-Precision-Screwdriver-Set-Combo-27Pc/223757822334?epid=15019974499&hash=item341901697e:g:xRoAAOSwG69d1DqTTry saving money on screw drivers so you can buy nice stainless screws for projectsIf you want to restore rusty bits, keep in mind you can put them into a screw driver backwards and gently brush the back side, being careful not to fling the bit. 'If you are interested in electronics, and not mechanics, I recommend you clean every mechanical tool you can so you have a respectable project budget (a wire wheel can make you thousands). If you have a deep interest in mechanics, you will find damage that annoys you and is difficult to repair so it makes more sense to buy new stuff.

author: Gregg
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 04:27:40 am
content: For a serious screwdriver fanatic, only the best and sturdiest will do when the going gets tough. I recommend the Wera 072017 hammer impact screwdriver set.https://www.amazon.com/Wera-05072017001-Impact-Driver-Pieces/dp/B0156CJJFI

author: Gregg
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 04:51:07 am
content: I just remembered the perfect screwdriver for your purposes; the Rosco Two Fister. Unfortunately it is no longer in production, but a diligent search of FleaBay might find a shining example for a very reasonable price; especially considering the ultimate utility provided by keeping both hands busy while fondling it.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 06:38:54 am
content: I really like the shape of Wera. I bought a Kraftform Kompakt 20 Tool Finder, ideal for around the house stuff.And the Wera Kraftform Kompakt Micro set for inside devices.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 07:08:56 am
content: Here is my obligatory comment, to make this thread go 40 pages long.I think you should try Pozidrive, it is better than Tektronics.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 07:21:17 am
content: is like asking which one is the best? skinny, or fatty? whitish blackish or brownish black head red head etc... if you really in love you should try them allfor me the best one is the cheap one because i can afford to buy many of them after i broke another one.

author: Daixiwen
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 07:53:48 am
content: Just buy a hammer. Any screw can be turned into a nail if you hit it hard enough

author: capt bullshot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 08:06:02 am
content: Dear HorstI'd recommend this one:It's no so good at driving screws, but will open bottles of beer. This is really useful for watching TV, especially these soccer games.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 08:12:30 am
content: Is this serious?If so, best sets I got the last years is the Wiha system4 for small things like electronicsand the Wiha system 6 for larger things.Why I love them is because they stick together in a nice box or pouch and you never have to search in your overcrowded drawer to find the right screwdriver. You just know it is there.And they fit really nice in the screws.

author: HackedFridgeMagnet
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 08:39:22 am
content: Had a funny experience buying a set of electronics Wiha screwdrivers for my sons birthday.He was building his first PC.I looked around a few places but found a set on Amazon that seemed to suit. There was about 20 Wiha sets IIRC.When I went to purchase the cart, Amazon told me that I had purchased the exact same set 4 years before.Went into my workroom and there it was hiding under some stuff, I had forgotten I owned it.So I gave it to him second hand, what's the issue, at least it wasn't late

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 08:52:30 am
content: Quote from: Kjelt on September 22, 2020, 08:12:30 amtoo much price for the same thing...i dont have objection, if you can afford it why not? but its like marrying Pamela Anderson vs marrying someone on the street that looks alike Pamela Anderson... here is what i currently use..https://shopee.com.my/-Ready-Stock-MARKSMAN%C2%AE%EF%B8%8FII--36pcs-Screwdriver-Set-i.102586968.3543345849the eqv price shown is only $10... i have something similar but smaller and cheaper earlier that broke due to its plasticy construction that hold the bits, but the bits are still useful because they are metal, so i keep them but havent yet a need to dig them because the Marksman has more than what i currently need (and Marksman sounds good too) if someone dont like all in one driver handle that fits every bits, this each handle for each bit probably can be loved,https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/2255389832but i dont kind of like it since it requires too much space to store, ymmv. ps: now i think i want to be in love with this typehttps://www.wiha.com/nz/en/tools/multitools/interchangeable-blades/wiha-system-4/?p=1since the bulge that hold the bits sometime blocking the bits from entering a deep hole screw, got to find one for stock..

author: PA4TIM
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 09:02:57 am
content: I suppose you are talking watch-maker size. I have a Proxxon set for like 10 years now, use them daily for my work. (Hex, torx, philips, straight) Better quality as the small Wiha set I have too. I have a few bit-sets with small bits for the more exotic types.But I bought an ifixit bit set a few months ago and since then I use it for everything because I love the handpiece and the bits are good, bought it mainly because I often could use a flex extender and did not had one.Full size I have 2 sizes posidrive, 3 sizes philips, 3 sizes straight. I also have a few drivers with an extra-extra-long shaft.If you plan to work on imperial stuff you need a good set of imperial hex and torx

author: mayor
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 10:33:41 am
content: Hahah, the title. Good one!

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 11:07:49 am
content: There is, of course, another world of screwdrivers that go with electronics:

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 12:57:09 pm
content: Quote from: mayor on September 22, 2020, 10:33:41 amYeah, thesimilarityis amazing.

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 02:37:11 pm
content: The Robertson square-drive screwdriver is the choice of real men.

author: HB9EVI
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 02:44:15 pm
content: I'd go with the hammer too; if there isn't any other tool than a hammer by hand, every problem starts to look like a pinotherwise my choice is Wiha

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 02:49:17 pm
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on September 22, 2020, 08:52:30 amThat is a bad metaphor IMO, P.A. has an extremely short usability, while once spent a bit more money on a good set of screwdrivers you can enjoy it the rest of your life and it stays as good as the first day

author: SerieZ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 02:56:16 pm
content: I wonder if OP make many posts on his journey of learning to use his new Screwdriver

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 03:04:31 pm
content: Quote from: Jeroen3 on September 22, 2020, 12:57:09 pmno wonder why it sounds familiar... switzerland and germany is only 5 hours drive..and if anyone hasnt been informed before, Dave has this fabulous ebook since before electrons existed..https://www.diaryfrenchpua.com/freeseductionebooks/The_Art_Of_Internet_Dating.pdfstill sold $3 in Amazon..Quote from: SerieZ on September 22, 2020, 02:56:16 pmexactly, that thread has sometime become annoyance to me, why someone should give her a door knock teach her everything.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 03:12:08 pm
content: Quote from: Benta on September 21, 2020, 11:31:33 pmQuote from: CharlotteSwiss on June 19, 2020, 01:25:23 pmit seems not just the title ROFL, i suspecting the worst... 32 pages just for screwdrivers

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 03:18:22 pm
content: For someone with a track record of > 2500 postings on this forum, a lack of such tool is a bit disturbing.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 03:34:03 pm
content: Quote from: thinkfat on September 22, 2020, 03:18:22 pmIf it was a mechanical forum you would be rightIt would be worse if he didn't have a soldering iron or multimeter.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 03:36:20 pm
content: I came awfully close to opening a similarly phrased thread, but thankfully someone else did!

author: Electro Fan
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 03:37:51 pm
content: Some day in an online university class called socio-electro archaeology these two threads will form the basis of a case study.Edit: Just kidding, sort of

author: atmfjstc
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 05:23:13 pm
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on September 22, 2020, 03:04:31 pmInconceivable! Our esteemed host still provides surprises to this day

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 05:42:35 pm
content: even more surprising, he himself scored a Wonder Woman and reincarnated Carl Sagan back into this world, you can google for that. btw, this seductive thread has me made 3 orders from china for longer tips screwdriver sets at around $8 each

author: VooDust
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 06:00:55 pm
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on September 22, 2020, 03:04:31 pmJust... wow! But I certainly like the writing style. Simply to the point, no drama, calling out stuff the way it is, but always in a respectful manner. (No wonder it did not sell.just kidding.)

author: boffin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 06:09:04 pm
content: My go-to screwdriver on the bench is a Pic-Quic multique.I normally *hate* multibit screwdrivers, but I love the Pic-Quic.Can't lose the bits, they're always there, and built like a tank (and here in Vancouver, Canada too)

author: Electro Fan
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 08:22:56 pm
content: Quote from: boffin on September 22, 2020, 06:09:04 pmOh great, now there are about a dozen Pic-Quics to study:https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Picquic&ref=bl_dp_s_mw_3038547011

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 10:47:32 pm
content: Quote from: Benta on September 21, 2020, 11:31:33 pmYes. Start with #2 Phillips, and work your way up to Robertson type before moving to using Flathead one. Once feel comfortable with the Flathead, turn the Phillips one around and repeat the relationships.

author: tkamiya
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 10:57:52 pm
content: What about JIS standard? She is quite difficult, too!

author: hugo
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 11:20:35 pm
content: QuoteHorst don't buy the PB Swiss 6100 that's only for a beginner man ... my advice is to go for something a little more expensive like WIHA or WERA set ... feel free to ask anything, this is the right place, we're all here to answer your questions ... your in good hands ...

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 11:31:52 pm
content: Quote from: tkamiya on September 21, 2020, 11:43:37 pmI have had the same experience with Wiha; their tips are not any harder than cheap brands.Honestly the screwdrivers I get the most use out of are stubby 1/4" hex drivers so I can change the bits as they wear out; I have a bunch of Home Depot and Lowes bargain bin specials.I am thinking of trying the Wera Kraftform series, and they are not cheap, but am still looking for good smaller set:https://www.amazon.com/Wera-05051024001-Kraftform-BithoCSLDing-Screwdriver/dp/B001HSNHM2

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 23, 2020, 12:57:41 am
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on September 22, 2020, 03:12:08 pmClearly a troll.Thread locked.