Mars One Mission - Falling Apart - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 10:37:32 am
content: nice article about this flawed mission to marshttps://medium.com/matter/mars-one-insider-quits-dangerously-flawed-project-2dfef95217d3

author: vinicius.jlantunes
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 11:16:42 am
content: Yeah... it all seemed BS to me since the beginning... interesting read

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 11:24:49 am
content: Fools will part with their money, sooner or later. If so, it might as well be sooner rather than later.

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 12:15:02 pm
content: I called it months ago. I just wonder how much these guys got away with. (Ah, crowdfunding - the modern-day hustle...)

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 12:23:41 pm
content: FYI, those who want to donate money towards a real Mars project:http://www.marssociety.org/

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 12:36:00 pm
content: Before you donate anything to anyone, I would suggest that you check them out personally: talk to someone there, give them a visit, see a person face to face, etc., to make sure that they are legit and they are trust worthy.But the most helpful thing you can do to help any organization is your time, not your money. If you think it is a worthy cause, go help them out, and volunteer for them.

author: digsys
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 12:37:53 pm
content: There was no hope of this being feasible, like the solar roadways, not this century.Kinda glad it's likely to suffer an early death and not "corrupt" peoples impressions of science.2/ Marssociety meeting at a Catholic University ?? Oh the paradox :-)

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 02:21:37 pm
content: it is actually very simple to weed out the wannabe's from the real deal with two questions :- are they developing a craft ?- have they ever flown a craft ?if either one is no -> run for the hills.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 02:22:29 pm
content: QuoteChurches were the cradles of science. Many early "scientists" were religious figures.

author: Mechanical Menace
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 03:47:27 pm
content: Quote from: dannyf on March 17, 2015, 02:22:29 pmChurches wielded the money and the armies, almost every first use of technology is for military or some other social control purposes. And it still tries to suppress a lot of science to this day.Many scientists are and have been religious, but that doesn't mean that the church was the cradle of science any more than Hitler being a devout Catholic and the Vatican supporting him says all Catholics are mass murdering tyrants. Just as ridiculous as saying atheism supports science, religion and religious stances have nothing to do with science.

author: LabSpokane
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 05:32:21 pm
content: Multiplying the number of applicants by two orders of magnitude constitutes outright fraud. It shouldn't take this long for investigative journalism to expose such fundamental facts. Another issue was that MarsNone(tm) had only raised a few hundred thousand dollars - a far cry from the billions required.

author: Dongulus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 05:48:26 pm
content: Quote from: LabSpokane on March 17, 2015, 05:32:21 pmI wonder why they inflated the the applicant figure so much. Does 2,761 not sound impressive enough? That's a huge amount of applicants by my standard. The 200,000 figure sounds so phony and seems so easy to debunk with a little investigation.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 06:04:01 pm
content: QuoteTo appeal to herd mentality: if it is good enough for so many other people, it must be good for me.QuoteHad they articulated how such a trip would enhance one's hearing / audio cables or Fluke meters, they would have gotten those audio nuts of volt nuts and have far exceeded their fund raising target long time ago.

author: LabSpokane
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 06:51:18 pm
content: Quote from: Dongulus on March 17, 2015, 05:48:26 pmSociopathy and megalomania.This whole process has really turned out to be a cruel joke where otherwise reasonable people were goaded into psychologically abandoning loved ones for a free Martian "vacation."

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 06:58:08 pm
content: at what point do they actually have to start spending significant money to maintain any credibility?i must admit i never took much interest in mars one before that article but now, i'm ready for the show with popcornhmm, just digging around...seems like the parent company is located in a block of flats:Interplanetary Media Group B.V.Verdiweg 5373816KSAmersfoort

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 08:50:03 pm
content: It seemed too good to be true back when the whole campaign was launched. I looked into the application process, requirements etc... (not because I was seriously considering becoming an applicant but because I was curious). It all seemed too simple even back then. As the article mentions, there didn't appear to be any sniff of any physiological testing let alone any kind of security/criminal vetting procedure. Applying for a job at McDonald's has a lengthier application and interview process! Real astronauts go through many years, even decades of intense training, medical and psychological assessments, fitness training, security clearances and a stringent vetting process before they even step inside a simulator, let alone the real thing.The idea itself isn't a bad one. If the Mars One founders were actually serious about seeing things through, they went about it like a University essay written at the last minute; ill-prepared with little to no planning and no capacity to see the project through.

author: steve_w
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 09:03:05 pm
content: If you look closely at the picture it looks like they are prepping the prototype Mars rover.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 09:05:06 pm
content: QuoteLike any other green energy con, all it takes to pull it apart is a mind that's willing to think critically.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 09:48:52 pm
content: Quote from: dannyf on March 17, 2015, 09:05:06 pmWhat are you prattling on about?

author: tom66
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 10:01:07 pm
content: Quote from: dexters_lab on March 17, 2015, 06:58:08 pmOperating out of a flat? Sounds familiar... I swear I've seen them before...

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 11:36:52 pm
content: It's kind of too bad. As sceptical as I was about this whole thing, I was still hoping it was real, would be interesting to see where it goes.The biggest issue I have with colonizing a planet that cannot naturally be lived on is that it requires supplies from earth. Gases, chemicals, materials etc. It defeats the purpose of trying to colonise another planet. May as well just do the same but with the moon, at least it's closer. That dust is a real pain though. Gets into everything.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 17, 2015, 11:57:53 pm
content: Quote from: Dongulus on March 17, 2015, 05:48:26 pmHow would you debunk it if the applications were sent privately to Mars One?You'd need to have them admit it, or have an insider speak out.2761 doesn't generate nearly enough excitement to make an interesting news article.They probably had 200,000 website application hits

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 18, 2015, 12:02:33 am
content: Quote from: Red Squirrel on March 17, 2015, 11:36:52 pmNot really, Mars has a lot going for it in terms of local production. Go look at some of the research that the mars society and others have done on this, there are many research teams that have tested real prototypes of quite impressive self-sustaining habitats and systems.

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 18, 2015, 09:27:31 am
content: Quote from: tom66 on March 17, 2015, 10:01:07 pm

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2015, 06:39:41 pm
content: Amersfoort, must not be the local town in South Africa named that. I went through it often, and there definitely was no building in the town that tall.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amersfoort,_MpumalangaEven has some history.......

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2015, 07:28:53 pm
content: You probably have to bring your own spacecraft to be able to participate.

author: PA0PBZ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 19, 2015, 09:47:24 am
content: CEO Bas Lansdorp was just interviewed and asked some critical questions on national news radio. Of course the 200,000 applications are real, and he even invited (I think he said Elmo) to check their system. And it's also not true that you get higher on the list when you donate more, as he said that they removed some big donators from the list and there were still people on the list which didn't donate anything. Money is a problem though, and he admitted that they would have to delay the schedule if things would not get better soon.Anyway...