The incredible shrinking resistor - Page 1
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author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2025, 12:31:29 am
content: All incorrect. The value of the resistor is estimated to be 50 cents.

author: Swake
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 25, 2025, 12:28:32 pm
content: Got to say it is consistent in its answers

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2025, 04:45:50 am
content: in my case it is raising

author: 5U4GB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2025, 09:07:37 am
content: Given that you asked an AI about it I'm surprised it didn't tell you "The value of resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply is two sheep".

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2025, 12:04:26 pm
content: Could also have given a better answer here -Prompt: What is the value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply?ChatGPT: The value of the resistor R485inthe Agilent 66311B power supply is that it gives the power supply the complete functionality it was designed for.The value of the resistor R485outof the Agilent 66311B power supply would be to use it in another circuit that needed the same value of resistance. Making the other circuit function by salvaging R485 out of the Agilent 66311B power supply might be a higher priority than leaving R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply.If you would like to explore the value of using other components in and out of the Agilent 66311B power supply I'm here to help!

author: Doctorandus_P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 02:28:16 am
content: From Duck.ai.What is the value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply?The value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply is 1.5 kΩ (1500 ohms). This resistor is part of the internal circuitry of the power supply, which is designed for mobile communications applications. If you need further details about the power supply or its components, feel free to ask!What is the value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply?The value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply is 1.5 kΩ (1500 ohms). If you have any more questions about this power supply or need assistance with something else, let me know!What is the value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply?The value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply is 1.5 kΩ (1500 ohms). If you have any further questions or need additional information, feel free to ask!What is the value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply?The value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply is 1.5 kΩ (1500 ohms). If you have any other questions or need more information, just let me know!What is the value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply?The value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply is 1.5 kΩ (1500 ohms). If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask!Are you sure about that value?I apologize for any confusion. The resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply is actually specified as 4.7 kΩ (4700 ohms). If you have any more questions or need further clarification, please let me know!

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 03:22:10 am
content: A recent complaint in the US about using AI to assess pharmaceuticals pointed out similar hallucinations to previously-reported legal cases: the AI “confidently hallucinated” non-existent scientific papers, just as prior cases hallucinated court decisions, citing them by fictitious but properly-formatted reference numbers and parties.

author: Swake
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 05:34:41 am
content: AI as we now it today is not ready for anything related to exact sciences. I'm pretty sure those things have still no idea what the word 'science' really means.We're not out of a job yet, far from

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 06:15:49 am
content: It's not AI, it's a language model. It generates sequences of words which resemble human writings which it was "trained" on.A human asked for a value of a resistor would usually give some number and say that he found it in a service manual. That's what you get.A human asked "are you sure" would usually apologize and give another number (because such questions are almost only asked if the human was wrong). That's what you get.It's all working as designed and as expected. You just need to adjust your expectations.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 09:48:26 am
content: AI often behaves more like a liar - crafting convincing narratives by blending fabricated details with real facts to create an illusion of credibility. In this sense, it resembles a manifestation of the devil himself - seductive, persuasive, and dangerously misleading.

author: gamalot
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 10:09:45 am
content: For those who are curious about the correct answer, it is196ohms.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/agilent-66311b-missing-trace-and-resistor

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 10:17:45 am
content: Which, when asked carefully, free Gemini was able to tell me...https://g.co/gemini/share/e98052b2de15

author: Swake
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 10:32:12 am
content: Well.... the circle is round. Now Gemini knows because it found Gamalot's answer in that thread. This board, and Gamalot in particular, seems to have a very good reputationThe first question about that resistor to an AI can be found in that same thread just before the good asnwer was posted:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/agilent-66311b-missing-trace-and-resistor/msg5989067/#msg5989067Interesting to note is that at least Gemini is using 'live' data now.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 11:11:15 am
content: This raises the question of responsibility when using AI. For example, who is at fault if an AI-driven car simply runs over a pedestrian?I tried asking the AI this question, but it replied that it has no will or consciousness and acts purely based on statistics - essentially like the outcome of a roll of the dice (an example the AI itself gave). Therefore, according to the AI, it bears no moral responsibility, instead, responsibility falls on those who designed it and set the rules. In fact, no one is directly responsible for AI actions.This reminded me of an old Soviet joke:QuoteLet me explain - the reason this joke came to mind is that the outcome of AI actions depends entirely on randomness and weighted coefficients across billions of neural network nodes, which no one can predict. Consequently, those who develop AI technically cannot be held responsible for its actions. And the AI itself, likewise, bears no responsibility.One could blame those who deploy AI in areas where it may pose a threat, and in my view, that would be the correct response. But such people almost never face responsibility.

author: langwadt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 11:36:12 am
content: Quote from: radiolistener on July 31, 2025, 11:11:15 amhttps://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20240222-air-canada-chatbot-misinformation-what-travellers-should-know

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 08:20:50 pm
content: Quote from: magic on July 31, 2025, 06:15:49 amWhat kind of crazy model is that, where the slightest doubt on the part of the questioner causes to answerer to automatically come up with a different answer?If I was sure of the answer, I'd just repeat it if asked "are you sure?", assuming that I actually am sure.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 08:37:47 pm
content: I wonder what would happen if somebody said something like ' resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply lacks human values and has possible links to Epstein '. Oops!

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 08:51:28 pm
content: The reason is that in order to make LLMs "conversational", that is, taking the context of the "conversation" into account (and not just the last thing you wrote), there is a cumulative phenomenon which makes them seem to "apologize" if you correct them, and even if you don't explicitely correct them, just asking the same question over and over again just adds to the context and makes it increasingly likely (according to models which, as impressive as they are, are still just pretty lame) that the previous thing they emitted was wrong and so that the user is expecting something different. That's pretty much all there is to it.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2025, 10:02:57 pm
content: All the various resistor values arecorrectLLM outputs, based on how LLMs work.All LLMs do is place statistically relevant words together. All the values are equally probable.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2025, 04:38:45 am
content: Quote from: tggzzz on July 31, 2025, 10:02:57 pmAll tokens are equally probable, but some are more probable than others.

author: woofy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2025, 09:06:31 am
content: Quote from: radiolistener on August 01, 2025, 04:38:45 amMaking the value of the resistor R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply 1.984 kΩ (1984 ohms).

author: Siwastaja
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2025, 06:24:40 pm
content: Quote from: woofy on August 02, 2025, 09:06:31 amI can indeed confirm that R485 in the Agilent 66311B power supply is 1984 ohms. I hope Gemini picks up this corrected information as soon as possible.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2025, 07:40:57 pm
content: Quote from: Siwastaja on August 07, 2025, 06:24:40 pmDid you mean 198.4 Ω?

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2025, 09:09:16 pm
content: A doctrinal dispute?