soldering stand coating? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2020, 07:53:20 am
content: I wanted to weld together a soldering stand out of preforated plate but I am wondering what is a good coating for mild steel that can stand up to soldering torch temperatures.The two things I have considered are:1) nickel plating2) high temperature spray paint (rated for 2000F). 'It seems the flame would be between 2000-4000F (air acetylene, air propane or air-mapp).It seems that even the best spray paint would not be good enough? If you are holding a torch under it/around it to heat up a part uniformly.Can nickel plating stand up to this abuse? Are there other options, or should I just consider it a failed idea and get stainless/etc. I wanted to make some shop tools while keeping cost down and using what I have.Does a painted surface experience the flame temperature, or is it reasonably lower? I.e. grill spray paints, I am not sure if these can be used for flame contact.I have a hunch it will be OK with air -butane, but a air-acetylene flame makes me think it will destroy any surface coating? What happens when you cook nickel plating?Kind of don't want to setup the plating bath etc to have a fail. I don't mean getting a part white hot on it, I mean dancing the flame around to get it to a nice temperature for soldering (not high silver brazing).

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2020, 10:14:00 pm
content: because I think you never tried to open up a soldered RF can or something with a nice setup (say you have a bunch)?Not everyone breaks into shit with a exacto blade and a universal 50 watt hakko welding gun (tired of that bull shit).And I don't think you ever made your own resistance soldering equipment either. Or worked with anything that has a bus bar you don't wanna bolt down. Or made your own bus bar stuff. Sorry I don't have 6g to spend on a hard core mil spec pace setup.Oh yea, I like to solder my stuff shut too, hermetic seal without glue nonsense.What do I gotta be some unprofessional ass hole dealing with big solder joints? Its like you got something against furniture.Deal with it, fabrication is a HUGE part of electronics if you want to get away from having a PCB laying on the table. Some people are more advanced then using mint boxes for everything.You work for Hammond Manufacturing or something? scared you won't sell any boxes? or scared of fire?

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2020, 02:18:38 am
content: i wanna see how you make a housingdoes it get more advanced then solder PCBs together to make a box? or are you the type of guy that puts 30 amp circuit in a tupperware with hot glue and calls it a project?we have some large components in the real world, like drives, inverters, lead acid batteries, fans, ducts and IGBTs. They require big heat sinks, brackets, steel boxes, flanges, lugs, bus bars, hinges, handles (hint, knurling makes a good grip so you don't drop a 30 pound box while you are moving it, I guess you must be into finger slicers??) and vents, to name a few parts you might need those threads to fabricate.And it also has to look good, this forum has a endless amount of content about CNC machining. I guess its OK if you make a over complicated equipment knob with a 5 axis router with 10 pages of g-code but you can't weld your own box together and paint it nice? Whats the equipment knob thread, like 100 pages long now?How do you microwave and RF projects look like? Are you hot gluing your shield cans into a box of crackers? got any antennas better then a ratty long wire?

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2020, 04:07:35 am
content: I think you probably want to look at black oxide coatings if you need that kind of heat resistance. As long as they are kept mostly dry they work well.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2020, 04:20:10 am
content: I thought that needed to be oiled to be any good.The main reason I want to know is because nickel I would need to plate it first, then do a weld, because it would be too difficult to plate with the legs welded on. Any non electrolytic coating would be easy to apply after assembly. (this is the size of a mouse pad).I do wonder if oil is bad though, because it might work as a anti-oxidant when vaporized (like a charcoal block, they are commonly used for soldering because they are refractory and because they generate shield gas, I have a commercial one, but I wanted something 'vented')

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2020, 05:56:09 am
content: Quote from: Shock on August 28, 2020, 04:32:44 amits a soldering thread, its like a soldering iron stand or something. stop trying to pick this thread apart.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2020, 06:42:19 am
content: can you start a pace thread or something. everything is a personal project.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2020, 06:50:38 am
content: seriously, your threadsSolder and flux in sample sizesRemoving hard sticker residue and stainless rustDEAL: AU: Jaycar 10% off first order (advertisement!)Office repair bench setupDarwin Awards: Penny SMPS ChallengeRefillable pump spray bottle source?Deal: Workzone Table Vice Aldi $14.99Give me something good (wtf is this, you posted a music video)Pace fume extraction sucksStealing Time - SciFi Time Travel (AV club)Pace MBT 350 Solder Desolder Rework System (bragging about high quality expensive gear, thats really gonna help someone design something lol)and like 500 other threads about pacego away dude, you post the same stuff. its just the polite little office version. Are you mad designing custom complete equipment is not relevant to your little repair business? Have you ever worked on a difficult project before? It seems that all you do is fix things, what engineering is there ? You strike me as something along the lines of a coin collector.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2020, 07:07:20 am
content: you are on a engineering forum but you dont engineer anything just repair stuff to repair more stuff and start problems in threads about actually designing something