EEVBlog an oasis - Page 1
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author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 04:03:07 am
content: I mean it. This place in oasis in a steaming pile of crap that is the Internet. I have tried to participate in some other forums and it has ended in me either getting banned or me giving up after a few posts and asking for my account to be deleted.I have complained about the behavior of some here but I am rethinking those complaints. The vast majority of you here are 100s of times above the level of the internet and I am happy to be with you here even if I don't agree with you.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 11:55:40 am
content: Well no one else commented for a while, so it's up to me.YES, WE ARE ALL FABULOUS!

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 07:01:21 pm
content: Quote from: Lightages on March 23, 2018, 04:03:07 amWell put Lightages, absolutely in agreement! This forum is way above the cut.The wealth of knowledge here is positively awesome! The attitude is strong and by-and-large from AOK to great. While I have not met a single one of you fellow members, I think I would like almost all of you if we do met. Not every single one for sure, but darn near...

author: fourtytwo42
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 07:22:23 pm
content: There's always one (meahh) hahha no seriously your right comparitevly speaking certainly, I am not sure what filtering mechinism is in action here but mutual respect seems to be high, long may it continue

author: TimNJ
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 07:38:34 pm
content: Probably only half of EEVBlog forum members are engineers by trade, but I think just about everyone on here thinks like one. Highly objective input which really helps people. Contrarily, there are a lots of different opinions, but they are backed up with good evidence. If you've ever seen a discussion about audio grade capacitors on an audio forum, you'll see the difference between EEVBlog and others.

author: BillB
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 07:46:22 pm
content: I'm not sure under what seedy underbelly these other forums you visit reside, but I've generally had pretty good luck. I guess maybe the topic domain of the forum has something to do with it? Plus, it's probably hard to get too confrontational about circuit design or test equipment (unless you're a voltnutter maybe).Regardless, I do agree that there are many knowledgeable, helpful, and friendly chaps here on this forum!

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 08:35:32 pm
content: From what I experienced so far, specialized forums are mostly civilized, be it woodworking or astronomy. The broader the audience or the topic, the less civilized it tends to get.If you can call a comment section under online news articles forums, or youtube or facebook, well:Quote from: Obi-Wan Kenobi

author: floobydust
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 09:43:59 pm
content: OP, you're up against the fundamental nature of forums on the Internet.They are a big melting pot- academics, engineers, students, techs, noobs, trolls, jerks, idiots etc. Anyone can post.Unfortunately it's easy for a troll to derail a thread. Crowdsourcing a design is pretty much impossible, to my lament.To keep quality up, social media have tried adding upvotes and karma. But then people collect karma and upvotes, as some form of currency.Or we'd have to prove our credentials and be ranked somehow, as members. I haven't seen the best fix.Until then, the signal to noise ratio can move around...

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 09:58:03 pm
content: Quote from: floobydust on March 23, 2018, 09:43:59 pmWell, this forum has the "thank you" mechanism. I like the way it is handled, namely that the number or percentage of thanked posts isnotprominently displayed like a badge with each post. Sometimes, e.g. when I get annoyed with a particular poster, I do look at their profile, and also glance at the "thanked post" percentage -- and typically think "that figures..."That's enough in terms of "credentials" or "currency", in my view: Not too prominent, so it does not get an aim in its own to maximize your count; but available as an indication what others think about a user.

author: Elasia
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 10:09:07 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on March 23, 2018, 09:58:03 pmI like it just for that same reason.. dont recall seeing it in other forum software either

author: floobydust
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 23, 2018, 10:43:48 pm
content: I guess karma adds its own set of problems. Fromhttps://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=525843.0"karma... promotes cliques on the forum where members who like each other just award karma points based on personality, not on the content of the post, and award negative marks to those who they don't like, or whose arguments they disagree with, even though the counter arguments could be perfectly valid.The other problem with karma is that the recipient doesn't know why they received positive or negative karma. This was something which really irritated me on a forum which used to use the system. A number of members joined me in asking the administrator of the forum which had the system to get rid of it on these grounds.Also, just having a button to click can discourage members from posting, and that's another reason why I dislike this feature."..."We really disliked Karma because it was anonymous. Kinda brought out the worst in users both for positive and negative karma. At first, I modded our forum to log karma so it was public who had done what and that seemed to fix behaviour somewhat. Still, we found the drama over the negative votes not worth keeping it as a feature and hence the poll solution happened.So I agree... Karma is usually a source of social issues..."

author: Lightages
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 01:01:25 am
content: When I reflect on the problems I have had on other forums they all have been things that appeal ore to emotion rather than logic. Things like knives and cars. The public on these forums prefer woowoo, feelings, and fashion rather than hard facts. More like religions in fact. I have no tolerance for that kind of behavior.

author: rstofer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 01:05:59 am
content: Quote from: ebastler on March 23, 2018, 09:58:03 pmIt's an interesting metric and worth spending a few minutes with my trusty calculator.

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 01:21:24 am
content: I can misbehave pretty badly if I so choose, but now that I have over 3000 posts I don't want to lose it all.

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 01:27:23 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on March 23, 2018, 11:55:40 amI'm not.

author: sibeen
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 01:31:00 am
content: Quote from: BradC on March 24, 2018, 01:27:23 am...and then there is the Python fans. Drowning would be to good for them

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 01:54:30 am
content: One particular thing that I really love here, "the mob" hostility toward audiophools, its always entertaining and enlightening.

author: Elasia
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 03:25:13 am
content: Quote from: BravoV on March 24, 2018, 01:54:30 amaudiophools.. lol never heard that till now... its a speaker.. it makes noises.. some high some low and some in betweenIf half those people had a basic understanding of wave propagation they could have a lot better setups just from better speaker placement. Take like subs... people stick it right by the tv because the pretty picture said so.And yes i am another anonymous coward and mob hater... good money just thrown out the door when you could be getting better tv quality or adding speakers etc that can actually add value to your visual and sound fields. Going from 2 speakers to 3 to 3.1 to 5/5.1 to 7/7.1 has a much more substantial impact.

author: Richard Crowley
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 03:57:56 am
content: I regularly (daily) participate in around 6-8 other forums and they are all at least as civilized as this one.I guess it depends on what neighborhoods you hang around in.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 05:25:39 pm
content: Quote from: Lightages on March 24, 2018, 01:01:25 amYour post reminded me of a shirt sold by someone I follow on the Internet.https://teecamel.com/why-be-informed-shirt?rt=storefront&rp=philip-defranco&rn=DeFranco%20Store&s=hanes-5250&c=Black&p=FRONT

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 05:34:27 pm
content: To me, the only thing that matters with music is if you have fun and derive enjoyment out of it. For some people that means spending half your paycheck (or sometimes all of it) to buy a cylinder phonograph to play your obscure bluegrass music on, and for (reasonable) other people, it's a matter of, does it sound alright? Is it a genre I like? Is there anything majorly wrong? Yes, yes, and no? Good, then it's something I can enjoy.I've gotta love this forum though. Even the asses are nice people.Anyways, I hear what you all are saying, I'll leave, I understand how much of a pain I've been to the forum.

author: taydin
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 07:58:19 pm
content: I think what makes this forum so great is that there are no artificial, controversial rules about what is allowed to be discussed, how it should be discussed, how the messages should be formatted and how thoughts should be expressed. And the rules that are there are things that almost everybody here would agree are sensible (like no personal attacks, no religious/political BS).I know many other forums where there are rules like these:- Rules on the format of post. Like, you must combine your entire post into the same message, can't split the post into multiple messages for readability. Or you can't change font, color, and similar formatting of text. You can't use all uppercase.- Rules that require that the post is grammatically correct.- Rules that state that you can't post links to other similar forums, because they consider the other competition and don't want to "lose" members to them.- Rules that state that you can't post links to company websites, because they don't want to provide free advertising for that company.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 10:31:25 pm
content: Quote from: floobydust on March 23, 2018, 09:43:59 pmWe decided against that here for similar reasons.Although we added a Says Thanks system that seems to have worked well. It just posters know that their post was valuable and appreciated.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 10:33:34 pm
content: Quote from: BradC on March 24, 2018, 01:27:23 amSometimes hyperbole works as a joke.Also, would the thread have got going without an awkward silence breaker?

author: BradC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 10:40:39 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on March 24, 2018, 10:31:25 pmI kinda see the thanks as more of a "me too" or "+1" without cluttering things with another post.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 10:46:15 pm
content: Quote from: BradC on March 24, 2018, 10:40:39 pmWell, in the "General Chat" section a "thank you" sometimes has that flavor. But in the technical sections of the forum, I typically see it used as "thank you for answering my question", "thank you for some interesting information I did not know about" etc.. As mentioned earlier, I agree that the mechanism works well.

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 11:12:55 pm
content: While I understand OP’s point of view, the internet isn’t all that bad. Sure, there’s a lot of nasty and foul people and attitudes out there, but when you know in which harbours to moor there’s a lot of excellentt knowledge and people to be found.It’s a bit like visiting other places, cities or countries. If you visit the tourist traps and main attractions, you’ll find a lot of disappointment. If you look in the back streets and where the locals go, there’s plenty of good times to be had and friends to be made.

author: Elasia
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2018, 11:34:01 pm
content: Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2018, 11:12:55 pmWell said... just look at IRC for example... long forgotten protocol but to those who use it still plenty of good times to be had if you know where to go.. kinda like finding that hole in the wall kitchen.. speaking of which I think i need to order some Chinese take out... the local shop here has this killer house rice mix with all sorts of goodies in it

author: Zero999
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2018, 12:09:58 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on March 25, 2018, 12:01:02 amI agree. I think the thanks button is often overused, but also underused at the same time. I try to keep it for posts which I find helpful, so I can refer to them later, rather than me to, although I don't deny occasionally using it for the latter.

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2018, 12:16:48 am
content: The internet is like a world where you may go wherever you want, whenever you want. You get to see concentrated, pure forms of humanity in action, and you may see any and all of it, but for the same reason you might not wish to go to North Korea, you have the power to not go anywhere. While you may not be able to avoid mention of specific topics, you can't do that in real life either.

author: chris_leyson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2018, 12:42:17 am
content: @FloobydustQuoteThat reminded me of linkedin, what a waste of time, account deleted. You get a lot of good advice from engineers who've been there seen it and done it and the forum covers a wide range of electronics related topics.

author: Edison
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2018, 12:52:00 am
content: Hello,( I am sorry for my english )I'm from Czech republic, and in light of our forums, this forum seems to me unique.What I read is very professional without unnecessary noise, a small off-topic is difficult to defend in passionate debate. Because I'm decent raised, I do not see a reason for someone to help me or praise my project for this thanks, and thank everyone who cares about running this amazing forum.Hajek Tomas as Edison

author: JohnMc
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2018, 01:52:59 am
content: Quote from: TimNJ on March 23, 2018, 07:38:34 pmYes probably only half or less are EE's but I would say if the membership was polled that most are in some type of technical field. So yes I would think most people here think with a technical mind.