Siglent SDG2000X Firmware, Hardware, Software Versions - Page 1
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author: NoisyBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2019, 05:51:38 pm
content: I noticed Siglent just released a new firmware update to their website today, there is a significant list of changes with the latest version:https://siglentna.com/service-and-support/firmware-software/waveform-generators/#sdg2000x-series1. Changed the amplitude strategy of AM modulation: The carrier stays fixed at the amplitude, regardless of the modulation setting.2. Increased the upper limit of Harmonics number from 10 to 16.3. Supported Multi-Device Synchronization.4. Supported Up followed by Down Sweep mode in Linear sweep (no change for Log sweep).5. Added an icon to indicate clock source is internal or external.Internal: External: External and the clock is lost:6. Changed the clock switch strategy: When the clock source is set to External and no actual external clock signal is being received, the clock source will not switch to Internal automatically but the clock icon will indicate that external clock is lost7. Supported specifying Arb type by remote control when the modulating waveform is Arb.8. Optimized the UI of selecting built-in arbs9. Supported changing the unit of amplitude without any amplitude change by long pressing the "Amplitude" softkey.10. Added "User" option under "PowerOn Setting".11. Added "Normal" as a new UI color style.12. Added memory space information in Store/Recall UI.13. Optimized response of the universal knob14. Added indicator for double function of the soft keys =>15. Removed the warning message when parameter is set to a value beyond the limit16. Fixed several bugsa) [2017/04/07-92573] Digit changes when setting delay of Pulse by the knobb) Amplitude unit “dBm” is not remembered after a rebootI found item 10 to be very useful, it let you pick whichever profile you want instead of defaulting to Default or Last.Item 12 gives you an idea of internal storage usage before you run out of space.Item 14 gives the item selected a much clearer indication.I drove the unit with a GPSDO, so item 5 and 6 are welcoming additions.Lastly, update process is painless, it preserves the enhancements you made to the SDG.There is no updated user manual available yet to reflect these enhancements.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2019, 07:40:38 pm
content: Thanks, added to SDG2042X thread.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/the-siglent-sdg2042x-thread/msg2681994/#msg2681994

author: NoisyBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2022, 05:30:46 am
content: For other SDG2000X owners out there, new firmware is available. It is version 2.01.01.37R3, here are the changes:1. Compatible with Rev.F hardware; if the hardware version is “05-xx-xx-xx-xx”, it will not support to roll back previous firmware version2. Supported trig dual channel separated when use manual trigger.3. Supported using another channel as the modulation source4. Supported setting the output frequency after the completion of sweep5. Counter add fast measurement mode6. Changed the square waveform data used in square FM modulationI updated my unit, the process is completely trouble free. The tinkering I did to the unit to enhance its capabilities is preserved in the new update.BTW, thank you Siglent for adding new capabilities to the unit despite it has been around for a number of years now.

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 10, 2022, 11:07:03 am
content: >> 6. Changed the square waveform data used in square FM modulationjust a warning as FM nowand PM now shitery as it getsSo be aware in case having “05-xx-xx-xx-xx” HW modelTested as +510mV & -510mV swing using 10MHz as- FM 100 / 500Hz & 1Hz ... 100mH deviations- PM 100 / Hz 0.005°do you get the same as using SDG6000 model or 7000 model?as I compared as using an $$$$ Keysight model... as now time to give up with that kind of SDG2Kas complaining since years now

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 07:59:42 am
content: Some graphs as from a SSA2K+ and than rollback to anyFW...KS as Keysight AWGSDG as SDH2082x AWG

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 08:25:34 am
content: Quote from: hpw on December 11, 2022, 07:59:42 amSend me PM with your email as I believe we can roll it back.

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 10:06:58 am
content: Quote from: hpw on December 11, 2022, 07:59:42 amOh that looks awful. Is that the new function, using a second channel as modulation source? The unmodulated signal is not quite clean already, but the modulated output is completely unusable.

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 10:40:20 am
content: Quote from: thinkfat on December 11, 2022, 10:06:58 amI used ordinary source, also checked by Ch2 as equal behavior.... using the Ch2 source: the freq. counts only and must be on so I do not understand as you loose one channel.Any older FW as 23R7 as 35R3B2 as R37R2 (given from support) as I check shortly is different in FM/PM faults..BTW: to get rid of 37R3 (not having 05-xxx HW model) It requires a special recovery FW given from support as using an 4/8G stick

author: markone
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 12:18:06 pm
content: Quote from: hpw on December 11, 2022, 10:40:20 amSorry, but i still do not understand :you are getting this malfunction because you upgraded to last FW without having the "Rev.F" HW version or this apply to ALL legit instruments target ?It still remain to understand where "Rev.F" should be checked, as HW version reported by Sytem Info menu has a numeric only format.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 12:18:47 pm
content: Very interesting.This new SDG2000X_V2.01.01.37R3.ADS package has 2 packages inside:335x_packet.zipzynq_packet.zipupdate.shYou can see the update script attached.So, they changed the MCU in the new HW for the now usual Zynq.

author: markone
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 03:33:10 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on December 11, 2022, 12:18:47 pmSo now the interiors should be complete different and maybe the Rev.F refers to this last HW release.

author: mawyatt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 05:11:43 pm
content: @ hpw,That doesn't look good, was it this bad before the FW update?Your 1st plot without any modulation also looks bad, almost as if there's a hardware problem?This caused us to quickly do a "sanity" check on our SDG 2000X AWG, this is shown without any modulation. Our's is 02-02-00-40-00 hardware version and FW R3B2 version.Best,

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 06:04:30 pm
content: Quote from: markone on December 11, 2022, 03:33:10 pmYeah, the previous hardware was based on a TI AM335x based SoC, going by the boot log posted previously. Plus an additional FPGA. The Zync-7000 in the new hardware is a bit more powerful, with one or two Cortex-A9 cores and it already comes with some FPGA built-in. It's a really nice platform for test instruments, and cheap, now that it has been largely replaced by UltraScale+ devices. Siglent saw an opportunity for cost optimization. Also, TI was notoriously not able to provide chips during Chipageddon, so, they lost a design here.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2022, 11:44:15 pm
content: SDG6000X and SDG7000A , 11 MHz at 100Hz modulation and 105mHz(0.105 Hz) depth of FM modulation..BB60C, 1 Hz RBW/VBW,When set for single tone, BB60C cannot measure phase noise of either with built in Phase noise measurements because they are both below phase noise floor of instrument

author: mawyatt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2022, 05:43:48 pm
content: Here's basic result with no modulation from our SDG6000X, very similar to result from SDG2000X.With what 2N3055 has shown and this result, definitely points to something wrong with hpw AWG, either FW and/or Hardware.Best,

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2022, 05:59:12 pm
content: Quote from: mawyatt on December 12, 2022, 05:43:48 pmI agree. It is either defective or damaged or Hpw is doing something wrong, which I doubt, because he seems like he knows "the stuff"...

author: mawyatt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2022, 12:11:40 am
content: Just did firmware upgrade to .37R3 dated 8-31-2022 on SDG2000X and took a quick look at 10MHz output, very clean as shown before.Best,

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2022, 11:19:12 am
content: Quote from: mawyatt on December 14, 2022, 12:11:40 amAfter the FW reset and upgrading again to .37R3 and in addition measure same on different place as may getting 1GHz LAN interference.The first .37R3 setup (KS or Siglent) was just using same cable & power cable so really same basic setup.New measurements on different place1) square 10Mhz looks NOW clean as this gear permits2) FM modulation:- Using older FW releases, I had fade out's on low deviation using 100/500Hz FM modulation- New setup looks now as good.- Keep in mind 100 & 500 Hz with equal deviations: The side 100/500Hz levels are any different as PM (as equal)3) PM modulation:- 100Hz New setup looks now as good.... low deviations hardly to test while may the Siglent SSA is not able as jittery synthesizer & close in PN- 500Hz New setup looks now (as previous FW releases) asas KS engineers did made his home worksEnd of the story and my conclusions on Siglent & Support are made ...Cheers

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2022, 12:11:32 pm
content: Quote from: hpw on December 16, 2022, 11:19:12 amSo after repeated questions to perform reset and again upgrade FW that you ignored and kept repeating Siglent is crap, you finally do it and, lo and behold, your AWG now works as well as Keysight (that is 4x more expensive).From which you draw an conclusion is that Siglent support is bad.Good news is it works well now ...

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 17, 2022, 02:24:16 pm
content: FW upgrade for SDG2000X with HW version02-02-00-40-00went smoothly. Rotary encoder works slightly better IMO (), font got slightly different (does not bother me), otherwise all functions work as before.10MHz signal is clean as shown in posts above with noise level at ~100dB (same before and after FW update).Previous issue with FM modulation remains - FM modulated output drifts in relation to sync output (tried various FM mod combinations, did not notice a change).EDIT:added FM modulation drift screen shots (10MHz carrier, 50kHz FM freq with 25kHz modulation). Other FM MOD setups also result in a drift, slower or faster.

author: Icom-man
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 30, 2023, 07:50:44 am
content: Hello, I want to update firmware in my SDG2042x (updated to SDG2122) hw ver 02-02-00-40-00 please help me and clarify which version of firmware can I use? currently I have 2.01.01.35R3B2, on website are two newer ... 37R3 and ...37R6 but there are description "compatible with hardware ver.F or G so it is not usable for my device?Thank you in advance for any feedback

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2023, 08:07:36 am
content: Quote from: Icom-man on April 30, 2023, 07:50:44 amInstall the latest irrespective of your HW version. There is a fix in the latest relevant to all HW versions.https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Signal_generator/SDG2000X_V2.01.01.37R6_EN.zip

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2023, 08:51:38 am
content: Yeah, I loved this latest release...Counter dead after xxx counts as system locked up completely.. so switch off/on button helped O;)Still a nightmare those Siglent gear.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2023, 09:27:16 am
content: Quote from: hpw on April 30, 2023, 08:51:38 amThanks, that's really helpful....not !Please write it up in detail here and attach a State file from your AWG.https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/the-siglent-sdg2042x-thread/TIA

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2023, 09:43:57 am
content: Quote from: tautech on April 30, 2023, 09:27:16 amYou mean this ?SDG2042X has open telnet port with no user name or password required.I just connected with Putty.exe to the network IP address on port 23 and got right in with no request for a user name or password. So, I had a look around to see how the system was configured. No surprise it is Linux based running on an ARM 7 CPU. It was a bit of a surprise to see the log on message say "SDG800 project" which tells me that the SDG2000 FW is based on the SDG800 FW in some way. For everyone's reference below is a log of my poking around cleaned up and organized a little.And how a man would detect the culprit, as second run went on past the previous hangings...

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2023, 12:06:27 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on April 30, 2023, 09:27:16 amAs I did some counter measurement on 10MHz again...1. did hang, as running > 15 Min screen saver ... >> power off > power on cycle to get it back running2. did change the the screen saver to 1 Minute: also hangs after hangs, sometimes the the screen activation did not runs... so as hooked up3. disabled screen saver completely, so on magic count 935, device hooked upPlease,Can some one confirm this situation repeated hook up... as let them run without screen saver for hoursHp

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2023, 12:13:05 pm
content: Could check this in the evening with my SDG2122X and Bodnar pulser

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2023, 08:14:57 pm
content: Hi,Test it...Screensaver 1min, 5min no problem.Screensaver 15min, system hangs, only off/on will help.Screensaver off, after 1564 counts (fast mode) system hangs, only off/on will help.Clearly a bug.Mine:Firmware 2.01.01.37R2Hardware 02-02-00-40-00MartinEdit:It seems I don´t have the latest firmware installed - did you have it ?Interesting: My firmware version seems not to exist in the revision history@Tautech : Would be good if the systeminfo will display the hardware revision mentioned in the firmware revisions, F...G...etc.

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2023, 08:40:16 pm
content: Thanks for testing,I run the latest FW, as posted on previous page with given bug.So it looks as an old feature O;)hp

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2023, 08:41:27 pm
content: Quote from: Martin72 on July 06, 2023, 08:14:57 pmV2.01.01.37R6 is latest, install it.From release notes:1.Compatible with Rev.G hardware2.Fix the bug that the system does not respond when there is no operation for a long time after the counter is turned on

author: Martin72
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2023, 08:47:08 pm
content: I know the notes, I´ve posted a pic from it..But:QuoteNevertheless I´ll update my gen and then test again.

author: hpw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2023, 08:40:44 am
content: As "V2.01.01.37R6is latest, install it." did helped to fix the issue!Hp

author: alocam
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2024, 11:15:19 pm
content: Hello, I am a bit confused with HW revision and feasible upgrade path for the SDG2000X (upgraded to SDG2122X). I have FW 2.01.01.23R8 and HW 02.02.00.35.00.I have just read that there are several hardware versions and latest firmware releases are apparently applicable to latest HW.Any guidance will be appreciated!Regards

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2024, 11:57:52 pm
content: Quote from: alocam on November 25, 2024, 11:15:19 pm23R8 is from 2018 !Best guidance is always from the Revision History pdf in the FW download package.... latest attached.https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Signal_generator/SDG2000X_V2.01.01.38R4_EN.zip

author: alocam
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2024, 12:54:34 am
content: Thank you for your reply. As usual, your help is highly appreciated!Should I go ahead and upgrade to the latest release with no intermediate steps? Does it take care of any HW compatibility issues?Regards,

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2024, 12:58:33 am
content: Quote from: alocam on November 26, 2024, 12:54:34 amStudy the Compatibility between Versions list in the PDF.

author: alocam
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2024, 02:00:34 pm
content: Thank you again. I have had a look at the pdf, but it is somehow confusing. I understand that since I am at 23R8, I can immediately upgrade to 35R3B1 with no apparent issues.However, it is not clear whether I can then jump to 35R3B2->37R3->R6->R8->38R4, or whether the warnings for 37R3 (compatible with F hardware) or 37R6 (compatible with G hardware) are a show stopper and I'd rather stay with R3B2.Sorry about being redundant, I am willing to update this unit but I would hate to brick it...Any suggestions will be welcome.PS: Just in case it helps, I decided to go ahead and try upgrading in steps, so I went through three or four of the pending upgrades, just in case I receive any hardware incompatibility warning, but it looks like everything went fine, now I am running 38R4 with no apparent issues.Regards!