FLIR announces personal thermal imager for iPhone - Page 1
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author: ixfd64
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 05:22:08 pm
content: http://www.flir.com/flironeInteresting... I wonder if this was inspired by Mu Optics.

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 05:31:32 pm
content: It would be nice if it could be hacked for use with many devices.Alexander.

author: Rufus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 05:37:18 pm
content: Quote from: ixfd64 on January 07, 2014, 05:22:08 pmSo I look, I download the Tech Specs pdf and no where do I find thermal resolution or frame rate specified.Looks to be firmly aimed at tossers with iPhones and money who would find such technical details confusing.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 05:57:55 pm
content: Quote from: ixfd64 on January 07, 2014, 05:22:08 pmUnlikely. It was more likely inspired by the deep pockets and indiscriminating urge of Apple fanboys to buy accessories.

author: smoothtalker
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 06:05:10 pm
content: unbelievable. did mu optics go bust and flir took over the snake oil? hahahaBut i'll be quite excited if flir is serious on this product.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 06:16:11 pm
content: http://www.flir.com/cvs/cores/view/?id=62648http://www.marketwatch.com/story/flir-systems-introduces-revolutionary-low-cost-micro-thermal-imaging-camera-core-2014-01-07?reflink=MW_news_stmpAnnounced a few hours ago today.Along with a low cost thermal weapon sight for hunters!!

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 06:43:10 pm
content: Wonder if they make an android one......

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 07:08:49 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on January 07, 2014, 06:43:10 pmThey have stated that they will make versions available for 'selected models' of Android phone later in the year.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 07:09:02 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on January 07, 2014, 06:43:10 pmTo follow shortly after the iPhone version it says in the press release. Lots of iPhone 5 and 5s all the same size, so many different variations of Android phones all shapes and sizes... it was a nobrainer to develop for the iPhone first.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 07:18:06 pm
content: All I want is an USB version. USB OTG will do it then, provided the device enumerates as a regular webcam.

author: Jon86
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 07:42:36 pm
content: QuoteI feel like this is just all a huge joke by the FLIR team to take the piss out of mu

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 07:59:15 pm
content: Quote from: Jon86 on January 07, 2014, 07:42:36 pmI don't think Fluke will be thinking it's a huge joke right nowThermal vision is about to go mainstream, even down to being used in toys (one of FLIRs application areas now according to the press release)

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 08:46:10 pm
content: Quote from: ixfd64 on January 07, 2014, 05:22:08 pmDoubt it, but I have no doubt the Mu optics muppets will start whining about their idea being ripped off (if anyone copied anyone, they probably copied ir-blue)

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 08:49:35 pm
content: Glaring omission in the "Tech Specs" section - my money is on somewhere between 16x16 and 80x80

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 09:02:20 pm
content: Still want one!

author: ixfd64
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 09:12:44 pm
content: You know, it would be really crazy if it turns out FLIR had bought up Mu Optics.

author: Jon86
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 10:05:16 pm
content: FLIR wouldn't waste their time with that...

author: olsenn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 10:13:30 pm
content: Quote80x80 perhaps. I figure the E4 costs $1k, so $350 for the same camera but without the battery and screen (these come with the phone), without the industrial build quality (no IP54 rating), and without the pelican-like case etc. seems to me like a reasonable choice.

author: ixfd64
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 10:26:05 pm
content: If that's the case, then I hope the prices of the other cameras will follow a similar trend.

author: Jon86
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 10:42:38 pm
content: Quote from: ixfd64 on January 07, 2014, 10:26:05 pmMe tooIt'd be awesome to have a very basic thermal imager that was actually affordable to people like me...

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 10:43:54 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 07, 2014, 08:49:35 pmImages shown so far look worth £200 whatever the resolution. Gazillions times better than a Fluke thermal POS at twice the price.Plus who knows what hacking might come up with! .....I've preordered one

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 07, 2014, 10:47:19 pm
content: I think this is the year that thermal vision starts to become available at Walmart and B&Q, a commodity not a speciality.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 12:11:13 am
content: Under $350...I would just save up some more for an E4. And seriously? Hide and Seek to a whole new level?

author: tesla500
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 12:19:47 am
content: I wonder if they'll be using the same sensor as in the E series, perhaps with a smaller lens that uses only part of the sensor's resolution

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 12:24:08 am
content: Quote from: echen1024 on January 08, 2014, 12:11:13 amAnd what would you use it for that would justify an extra $600? Surely that $600 could be better spent?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 12:30:27 am
content: Pretty sure this is an all-new sensing package, looks like maybe a silicon lens"Lepton uses a breakthrough lens fabricated in wafer form," , though I suppose it could be a multi-impression moulding of chalcogenide glass

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 03:18:46 am
content: Quote from: TopLoser on January 08, 2014, 12:24:08 amIt could be hacked to 320x240... also, it wouldn't be dependent on using a cell phone. I believe that if you are going to spend a relatively large amount of money, if possible, you might as well just drop the cash for the version you know you won't outgrow. I had a chance to play with the Fluke VT04 once, and can guarantee that you will pretty quickly outgrow that resolution.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 06:38:04 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 07, 2014, 08:49:35 pm16x16 is low enough that it would be obvious in their promo pics (unless they faked them and that's not a real product image).64x64 or 80x80 with visible camera overlay seems quite plasiable

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 07:51:40 am
content: QuoteFor some reason I feel this was inspired by or in some way related to Mike's teardown thread... especially since someone made that same comment about playing thermal hide-and-seek with a hacked E4.

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 07:57:04 am
content: This guy "IR-V" seems to have demo model in hand.http://goo.gl/xg0RFj"It has about 1/2 the thermal resolution of the PS-24 but 3x the capture rate."FLIR Scout PS24 has resolution 240x180, so the Flir ONE will probably have the resolution about 120x90 ?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 10:35:00 am
content: Quote from: Psi on January 08, 2014, 06:38:04 amIf you look at the pics taken from their CES demo unit, the thermal image looks very blurry, and 16x16 with some heavy processing could just be possible, though if you were designing a new sensor from scratch, as appears to be the case, then 16x16 would probably be too low to aim for. From the pics I don't think it's anything like as high as 80x80.ULIS (I believe now owned by Flir) have recently released an 80x80 sensor.I would guess the limiting factor is the lens, and the resolution may well be decided to match what a cheap lens is capable of.The act that they have not said what the resolution is speaks volumes - it is clearly low enough that the figure would discourage people from taking it seriously.This is the only real video I can find - looks like 9fpsAlso a surprising amount of lag - watch when he waves his hand in front of it

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 11:54:21 am
content: I've put 80x80 grid on the actual image from CES. If it's 80x80 it's still great value for the money.

author: dexters_lab
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 12:15:35 pm
content: if you look through the visible camera overlay, there is not much detail there!no wonder they dont mention in the spec

author: equinoxe
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 03:01:51 pm
content: 80x80 would be a reasonable resolution for household use.Too bad it's only for the iphone5(s)..We will be able to find out some more details as soon as real pictures made by this device are released.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 10:31:27 pm
content: A few more vids from CES - resolution looks better than 16x16 but clearly some filtering as there are distinct halos round some subjects.What really caught my attention was this - at 1:20 he slides the front switch down, and it springs back - I wonder if this is a manual calibration ( which may explain teh small size of the core) Presumably the 'up' position is lens cover - can any German speakers here let us know if there is any explanation...https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kXkeuJajHxY#t=74

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 08, 2014, 11:52:54 pm
content: Flir just replied to my tweet about resolution - sensor is 80x60, processed up to 160x120https://twitter.com/FLIR_ONE

author: nowlan
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 12:15:16 am
content: The original E4 review was kind when it was low res. The hacks make it worth the money.This sounds the same resolution, but they will release an sdk so you can fix the quirks in the E4 series.If it is $350, then would make a cheap thrill.

author: papo
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 01:52:40 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 08, 2014, 10:31:27 pmHe's not really giving a lot of technical information in that video. The lever at the back of the unit activates a cross-hair that enables an OSD cross-hair and temperature display. (You can see the cross-hair when he turns around the phone after pulling the lever). Interestingly however, he says that to activate the cross-hair, the lever has to be pulled down. I'm not sure but it looks as if he first pushes the lever up, then pulls it down and releases it. Not sure why they made this a mechanical button (as opposed to the other features that are accessible by the touch screen).RegardsMatt

author: Kryoclasm
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 04:27:18 am
content: I think it would make a great all purpose tool for work, as a mechanic, to home, my electronics work bench.Also outdoors when walking the dog at night and I will know if that really is a bear on the other side of the bushes from me.Just one of those things you should keep near by when the need makes itself known.One more step closer to the Tricorder too!Finally, it wont be as creepy as keeping a traditional FLIR in your pocket.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 09:03:01 am
content: Quote from: papo on January 09, 2014, 01:52:40 amIf you look closely, a cover comes over the lenses when it is pulled down - I'm increasingly convinced that this is for flat-field calibration, and there is no internal shutter.

author: MrSquirrel
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 02:40:07 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 09, 2014, 09:03:01 amThat makes sense with the lens being integrated, i want to see a data sheet on the Lepton! Hope they don't restrict selling it to OEM's.They are going to sell loads of ONE's if the price is what they say. I never expected something like to this so soon, thought it would be years away. Very impressive.I can't imagine what cool things mobile app developers will dream up.

author: all_repair
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 03:28:49 pm
content: The other day E4 assisted in narrowing the faulty part of a PCB so I was gearing up to buy another E4, until this appears. It shall be very useful for field troubleshooting like a phone camera which can be around when you need it the most, where the more capable one is unreachabldle and miles away.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 08:05:14 pm
content: Confirmed via Twitter - flat-field cal is manual

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 08:10:26 pm
content: When are you getting one to tear down Mike?

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 08:50:09 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on January 09, 2014, 08:10:26 pmSoon as I can - with all the extra E4 sales, the least they can do is send me one...

author: iDevice
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 09:11:33 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 09, 2014, 08:05:14 pmBy looking at the video, it seems that you have to calibrate manually when you want to measure a temperature.You then get the cross-hair appearing if it is the first time as well as temperature reading.Then the temp reading disappears after the calibrated period is expired and is replaced by the "calibration" icon which looks like the calibration slider.The cross-hair seems to stay visible though.I guess it's quite OK as this gadget is probably intended more for visual purposes than a professional thermographic camera.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2014, 11:09:45 pm
content: I assume they must be doing some other stuff to counteract drift, even for a purely visual image - probably doing long-term avaraging to estimate a baseline - I suspect if you held it in a tripod at a stationary scene for a long time you might see some interesting things.

author: wilheldp
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2014, 03:44:40 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 09, 2014, 08:50:09 pmHave they actually directly mentioned anything to you about the E4 hacking thread? I know the corporate wanks probably bitch about losing out on the $5000 difference between the E4 and E8, but last time I looked, there were nearly 130 people (me included) that never would have thought about buying an E4 without the hacking thread.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2014, 10:59:02 am
content: Quote from: iDevice on January 09, 2014, 09:11:33 pmSomething about manual calibration seems funny to me, but at this price point and size I suppose it's a great solution. And if you don't care about exact temperatures but just to see the trends, then automatic calibration lag might get in the way.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 10, 2014, 11:07:14 am
content: Nope - had a few emails back & forth with Andy Tiech after the review but nothing since the teardown (last email didn't really expect a reply though). However the soft case looked like it got ordered internally by AT well after the TD vid.Half thinking about sending a request for a F1 to review..... maybe after the CES fuss has died down.

author: cuisinart
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2014, 04:34:52 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 10, 2014, 11:07:14 amWould love to see it. Even though I recently picked up an E4, I would consider recommending this unit to friends who didn't want to spend the extra $.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2014, 10:41:29 am
content: Quote from: cuisinart on January 11, 2014, 04:34:52 amI couldn't care less about that - there will be plenty of reviews once it hits the ground - I want to see how practical it will be to drive the sensor without an iphone!

author: Anders Olsson
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 11, 2014, 06:26:21 pm
content: Thought that the Flir One immediately would generate massive response. In my mind is a remarkable technical achievement and it's performance is good enough for it to be truly useful at the same time as the price is reasonable.However, after talking to about 20 friends, most of them working with technical things, I've had very weak response.Only one person so far fully understood how useful a device like this could be and he was very excited.This has made me wonder if Flir simply was a few years ahead of time with the Flir One.It seems like most people simply never heard of thermal imaging and even if they heard of it, they don't understand the concept or what it can be used for.I would love to have the Flir One myself. It is difficult for me to motivate buying one though since I already have the "E8" and since i would also have to buy an Iphone to use the Flir One.

author: SolarSunrise
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2014, 08:40:48 pm
content: Well, this looks like something new to the market. Let's hope that in the next 5 years, the price of these cameras will drop to under 50 bucksBut for now, Mike's firefighter thermal imaging camera was probably one of the best deals out there. I mean, high quality IR camera with high fps? And under $1000? That is just insane.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2014, 10:53:14 pm
content: Quote from: Anders Olsson on January 11, 2014, 06:26:21 pmI suspect the vast majority of sales will be as a "cool toy", though I'm sure it will be genuinely useful to some people.Like the E4, and then the hacked E4, it will increase the number of people using TICs.My guess is that a major reason for releasing this product is to find new untapped markets for the small, low-cost TIC core.Unfortunately it looks like for the forseeable future they will only be talking to potential high volume users of the Lepton core.Will be interesting to see if any devboard type offering will be forthcoming, though if it does I doubt it will be cheap or unencumbered by the typical NDA bullshit.

author: han
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2014, 11:39:32 pm
content: i hope they will use Bluetooth or something that can used both in android or Iphonealthough its under $500. but if consider only can operate using iphone 5.. the total price is more then $1000.so for people that not using iphone is better stick to E4note: not every country have a iphone bundled to price under $500

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2014, 10:13:54 pm
content: Just been diggng around Flir patents, and found this, showing construction details of the Lepton package.The sensing part looks quite similar to the E4 sensorhttp://www.google.com/patents/US20130329054

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2014, 10:56:52 pm
content: More info from a patent referenced in the one abovehttp://www.google.com/patents/WO2012170946A2Patent on the phone add-on, lots of info on signal processinghttps://www.google.co.uk/patents/US20130258111Another patent showing this module as part of a head-up display for firefighters -http://www.google.com/patents/US20130242110

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2014, 04:50:08 am
content: Probably the same sensor, but using those that were too bad to use in the E4 but still work.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2014, 08:51:42 am
content: Quote from: svetlana on January 13, 2014, 05:46:25 amIt's smaller than the E4 sensor, but looks like it uses similar construction. Module is about 10x10mm.The patents mention a few specific sizes from 32x32 to 120x160,

author: Anders Olsson
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 13, 2014, 09:23:34 am
content: A guy from FLIR is showing the sensor at 1:46 in this video:According to him the sensor is 8.5x8.5x5.5mm, or similar size as a CMOS-sensor in a mobile phone.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2014, 10:45:47 am
content: Just had a reply to my enquiry on Lepton cores.MOQ of 1000, price $250, projected delivery May.And of course NDA to get any info.Interestingly, attatched to the mail was the report forwarded from their web-marketing company, which included my past visits to their websiteQuote

author: smoothtalker
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2014, 03:09:29 pm
content: The wait is over! pre order begins tomorrow! anyone getting it?http://flir.com/flirone/index.cfm

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2014, 03:21:00 pm
content: Quote from: smoothtalker on July 22, 2014, 03:09:29 pmAfaik they've not yet emailed the people who went on the list (unless I've been purged from the list....)

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2014, 03:46:05 pm
content: Announcement says shipping in the US...._if_ they are shipping to US only, and are doing it in order of the "reserve" list, if anyone on the list but not intending to buy is prepared to buy & ship to me , please PM - I will cover all costs.Let's see what happens...

author: HP-ILnerd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2014, 03:47:32 pm
content: I'm on the list, I've been emailed and my order is now placed.YES!!!

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2014, 03:53:39 pm
content: Quote from: HP-ILnerd on July 22, 2014, 03:47:32 pmDid you get on the list really early?Anyone outside the US been contacted?

author: HP-ILnerd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2014, 03:57:45 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 22, 2014, 03:53:39 pmI think I heard about it from you! Got on the list about five minutes later. I suppose that was pretty early.

author: bookaboo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2014, 04:06:28 pm
content: Was on the list and have head nothing yet.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 22, 2014, 09:49:44 pm
content: Found something in a press release stating they expect availability in Europe Mid-Aug

author: smoothtalker
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 08:50:16 am
content: I did not receive any email! Whattttt.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 09:18:46 am
content: Quote from: smoothtalker on July 23, 2014, 08:50:16 amThe email is just a link toHereUnfortunately only accepts US addresses

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 10:31:48 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 22, 2014, 03:46:05 pmBe mindful of ITAR...

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 01:27:20 pm
content: Quote from: amyk on July 23, 2014, 10:31:48 amthese products aren't restricted - only issue is you can't ship to some countriesLooks like anyone in the US can order using the link in the email

author: smoothtalker
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 08:55:58 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 23, 2014, 01:27:20 pmthis is a small issue. just use a VPN to overcome the geo blocking. and use a freight forwarder to ship it to your country. i do this for many products i bought in USA. depending on delivery countries some freight forwarder shipping rate is cheaper than others.

author: smoothtalker
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 09:00:53 pm
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on July 23, 2014, 09:18:46 amThanks!!anyone has a discount code for the online store? haha.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 09:18:26 pm
content: Quote from: smoothtalker on July 23, 2014, 08:55:58 pmNo obvious geoblocking, but I suspect Flir may put a generic export control label on the box (like the E4) which may spook a forwarder. Forwarders probably also insist on pesky things like correct declared customs values...

author: smoothtalker
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 09:21:52 pm
content: That is interesting Mike. i didn't know of the export label. haha i mostly ship Fluke products and they went right through without problem.

author: smoothtalker
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 09:29:58 pm
content: i copy this directly from the flir one facebook page. perhaps the wait for people outside usa is just a little bit more"FLIR ONE Hi Wayne. Soon! Be ready to #SeeTheHeat because global sales are set to start in mid-August."

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2014, 09:47:37 pm
content: As far as I can tell from info released so far, US units are shipping around Aug 4 and Europe availability "Mid Aug", so by the time one has arrived in US and been forwarded there will only be a few days' difference.Obviously it will depend on stock availability..and the chancers have started....http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flir-One-/251596162505?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&hash=item3a944cc5c9

author: josem
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2014, 12:05:10 am
content: Just found one of the first images taken with the final, shipping, FLIR One - a thermal photo of the new MacBook Pro undergoing testing at Macworld labs:Another shot showing the spot meter:Looks quite good to me.Source:https://twitter.com/pinatubo2000/status/494232088468418560

author: ixfd64
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2014, 12:29:35 am
content: Is it just me, or does the image quality appear to be better than that of the FLIR E4?

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2014, 06:23:54 am
content: Floppy disk?Alexander.

author: HP-ILnerd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2014, 08:39:05 pm
content: Mine's shipped! Just got the email.

author: Ebivetar
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2014, 09:16:18 pm
content: I hope that it will be available for Android phones too.