[WANTED GER/EU]  Intronix LogicPort Logic Analyzer or similar - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2017, 07:55:08 pm
content: I just lost one on fleabay and this derails some nice project of mine, so if some one has one available for sale in EU or, even better, in Germany, please make me an offer.It's not a problem if it's another brand, as long as it hassimilar or better features in the price range. Kindly pretty please make sure first that you know what features the Intronix one (they only have onebefore "What about this one..."Many, many thanks,DC1MC

author: TK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 21, 2017, 09:43:06 pm
content: The Zeroplus LAP-C logic analyzer is a good option.

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2017, 04:45:03 am
content: Quote from: TK on December 21, 2017, 09:43:06 pmYeah sure, Chinese quality, half performance (200MHz if it's sunny in Mannheim ), a steal at old Agilent Europe prices:1190,00 € (netto zzgl. MWSt)Translation : not just expensive, but friggin expensive PLUS sale tax.You know, I appreciate each and every offer and suggestion, but its Christmas, not April 1st.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2017, 05:32:34 am
content: Digilent’s Digital Discovery perhaps? 32ch at 200Msps, 16 at 400, and 8 at 800.I have both the LogicPort and the Digital Discovery. Nowadays with serial buses neither come out very much, but the selling point of the LogicPort has always been a reasonably large number of channels (34) all at fairly high speed (500Msps). The downside of the LogicPort is the limited memory, certainly by today’s standards, but even when I first bought it perhaps 12 years ago I found it a limitation. Mostly I use MSOs for this work now, although the LogicPort has a few nice software features particularly its selection of protocol decoders.As a matter of interest, what is your application?

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2017, 08:45:32 am
content: Quote from: Howardlong on December 22, 2017, 05:32:34 amNow Howard, to keep the discussion on Buy/Sell/Want topic, could it be that want to part of your limited and obsolete LogicPort for some future proof EURos ? If so, PM me with an offer and we can discuss later about what I intend to do with it now and in the future, that is after it's safe on my table, what would you say, tempting eh?Cheers,DC1MC

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2017, 10:21:07 pm
content: The crickets noise is deafening in this thread, really nobody wants to sell me an old obsolete Intronix LogicPort ?!?Howard, hello, no answer, anybody, somebody ?You know, you could get this nice education oriented Digilent, it does so much, even has some USB scope and pattern generator, and a nice box, come on, look under the table or on the bottom of the drawers/closets, unearth the old LogicPort guy out and make some cash, you're not using it anyway, it's obsolete and doesn't have enough sampling points !!!My PayPal has some fat to burn, I can even visit you with cash in hand if you're in somewhere Germany/Ba-Wü area. And I'll add an extra Stolli and Spekulationen bag, name your favorite brand or from a local Bäkerai.Nobody ?OK then, if nobody decides to sell till second half of January, then I'll order it from US, it's clear that in this price range nothing is coming close, much less exceed the features, of this one. Just so I can then join the chorus of recommending arduino and Cypress based ones, plus the high-end Zeroplus LAP-C and eventually some OWON or Rigole MSO scopes, I mean a sucker and his money should be ASAP parted.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2017, 08:48:00 pm
content: I’m not great at letting go of kit, especially if it has functionality not reflected in other devices I have, i.e. 32+ channels correlated all at 500Msps, plus 1-wire decode which is not a common decoder.True, it sits in a drawer for a long time, but when you need it, you need it... as you’re finding yourself!I would definitely not discount the Digilent Discovery series as education only: while they may be largely marketed as such, I strongly believe that that is not a fair representation of how useful they are in real world analysis, particularly in less demanding fields. Software in particular makes these products. In that respect, the LogicPort and Digital Discovery are similar, they’re reasonably easy to become quite adapt at using. The big plus for Digital Discovery is the enormous memory. But please don’t discount Diligent’s Analog and Digital Discovery products as education-only devices, they have very valid and valuable uses in the real word too. It’s a case of using the best tool for the job.

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2017, 09:17:52 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on December 23, 2017, 08:48:00 pmWhy shouldIdiscount it,theyshould discount it, those "hi-speed" probes costing almost 60EUR !!!are a scandal, I mean there is no material, manufacturing or any effort involved in that pathetic PCB and twisted wires that should have been in the standard kit. But then, this not on topic.On topic, speaking of the drawers, I promise that if you'll sell it to me at an acceptable price, I will loan it to you any time you need it*and the Digilent, or what else you have, it's not up to the task. We even split the costs of shipping for the first couple of loans, so it will collect dust in MY drawer, and you'll not lose any time if you have a bit of task that needs some obscure feature, like for example the need to decode some original PCI and ISA bus traffic or loading/reading some values in a device calibration ROM/RAM/EEPROM.Offer valid for others that want to part of theirs and are located in the continental EU/UK (no strange islands and stuff).So what would you say, deal?* Terms and condition apply, IMMV, not valid where prohibited, the decision of the owner to loan the device it's not guaranteed positive, any decision taken can't be reversed or appealed. Other legal blah-blah, that usually it's totally ignored when one buys from a big company but here will be read.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2017, 06:22:45 pm
content: PM Sent.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2017, 07:08:23 pm
content: FWIW the high speed probes aren’t just bits of twisted pair. They have resistive dampeners in them.

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2017, 07:17:03 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on December 25, 2017, 07:08:23 pmTrue, a bunch of 100 ohms, costing like a centicent material and another 1,6cent placing and soldering, a total of 1,61c x 36, this changes all.Joking aside, this adapter is really overpriced for an educational product and that was what put me off the Diligent. I did like the pattern generator and didn't care too much about the scope imitation bolted there.Cheers,DC1MC

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2017, 07:30:13 pm
content: As I stated before, I don’t consider the Digilent Discovery products to be only educational, they have very significant value in the real world too in my experience.My evidence is that the LogicPort comes out of the drawer about once a year, whereas the Discovery products I use every week on real R&D.I have to say though that the LogicPort has really stood the test of time despite its limited memory. In its lifetime though we’ve almost completely moved away from parallel buses which somewhat limits its usefulness nowadays.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2017, 08:04:44 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on December 25, 2017, 07:30:13 pmI agree with you.. I have Lap-C 16128+, Digital Discovery, ScanaQUAD100 and also Picoscope 3406D (MSO)... Nowadays 16 channels is more than enough for all I do... It is all about protocols now..I don't do anything that would need more channels..But Digital discovery is very useful, not because of logic analyser so much, but because it also has pulse generator capability and scripting and ROM mode...You can generate complex test vectors, capture and then generate signal from a sensor and such. You can create decoders and all kinds of stuff...Very useful thing.

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2017, 08:23:29 pm
content: OK, you've convinced me, if I'll ever find one on a good price with this overpriced hi-speed adapter and the scope interface, I'll get it.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2017, 08:44:02 pm
content: Quote from: DC1MC on December 25, 2017, 08:23:29 pmI didn't get stupid high speed adapter.. Like you said, it is a piece of PCB, large ground plane so every pair can have it's own ground and few twisted pair cables with 100 Ohm on other side...Also many times you have to devise all kinds of cabling to connect to DUT...I'm planning to make BNC / SMA adapters....

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2017, 08:59:52 pm
content: Put me in if you make a nice 16channels SMA adapter with high quality thin coax, I'll get a kit

author: eurofox
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 26, 2017, 07:37:40 am
content: Maybe this onehttps://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/USB-Logic-Analyzer-LA5016-PC-500MHz-Max-Sample-Rate-PWM-16Channels-10GB-Samples/182688342769?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2017, 08:47:50 am
content: Quote from: eurofox on December 26, 2017, 07:37:40 amWoah, I think that this little bullcrap detector would have exploded by now looking at what our Asian friends are selling.For the newbies who may not get the joke, DO NOT BUY THIS CRAP, it's an example of a badly presented fake of a fake LA ( meta-fake), stay away of this garbage.Aaaaan it's a fleabay "Top Seller", aaaaaaad he found a sucker to buy one

author: BU508A
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2017, 01:52:52 pm
content: I do not have any affiliation with this seller, but probably you'll find something interesting:https://www.zeitech.de/Logic-Analyzer/I'm not very familiar with logic analyzers at all (I do know, that they are existing), so please apologize if this gear isn't of any use for you.Just stumbled over it, when I was looking for an electronic load (Maynuo 9812).

author: cgroen
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 26, 2017, 02:36:50 pm
content: I have this one, is it this you need ?I have used it maybe 5 times in total (and that is A LOT of years ago!)PS: I have no grabbers for it, only whats on the pictures

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2017, 04:22:26 pm
content: Nice, thank you, PM with price and stuff please.Cheers DC1MC

author: cgroen
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 26, 2017, 07:11:06 pm
content: Quote from: DC1MC on December 26, 2017, 04:22:26 pmI sent you a PM

author: KrudyZ
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 01, 2020, 12:16:36 am
content: Quote from: cgroen on December 26, 2017, 07:11:06 pmRemember they use a rather unusual USB cable...