The inevitable fate of quadcopters... - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 05:38:44 am
content: This shit was bound to happen. Once you've got the quadcopter part down, retrofitting an off-the-shelf weapon system would be relatively trivial. I'm so gonna lose my security clearance for discussing this.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 05:55:33 am
content: oh well it could have been worse and been a yank. just wait till a yank makes one then it will be trouble ! this is the sort of stuff that youyube should not allow.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 05:57:41 am
content: Not long till the first quadcopter school massacre now.Next US bans quadcopters and videos thereof, doesn't even consider banning guns

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 06:05:56 am
content: Quote from: Simon on April 24, 2012, 05:55:33 amHe is a Yank...with a faux Russian accent...and evidently a Class III firearms license.

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 06:11:51 am
content: Quote from: HAL-42b on April 24, 2012, 05:57:41 amOh believe me, it's been considered to death. If the US ever decides that it's no longer constitutional for its citizens to bear arms, I'll willingly and gladly renounce my citizenship.

author: TerminalJack505
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 06:16:08 am
content: LOL. That quadcopter is about as fake as that guy's accent. That's pretty good CGI but CGI, nevertheless. I think this is just an ad for a Call of Duty video game.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 06:18:44 am
content: Quote from: slateraptor on April 24, 2012, 06:11:51 amDon't worry they'd rather ban schools

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 06:33:10 am
content: Quote from: TerminalJack505 on April 24, 2012, 06:16:08 amParty pooper.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 06:45:56 am
content: Quote from: TerminalJack505 on April 24, 2012, 06:16:08 amI must admit I thought that was a lot of weight for a quadcopter, even with the bigger props as it would need a lot of battery power. oh well hopefully it gets taken down, it is no real value to society, fake or non.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 07:11:44 am
content: The recoil from that gun would flip that thing over.

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 07:26:24 am
content: Quote from: G7PSK on April 24, 2012, 07:11:44 amWith the proclaimed 100-round payload, the thing likely wouldn't be able to get off the ground. Also, if you've ever disassembled an AR, it becomes immediately clear that the weapon system is a complete fraud.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 09:56:00 am
content: If the gun was of the type where the rounds are consecutively placed in the barrel one behind the other and electronically fired the weapon would be about right the weight would also be lower due to no cartridges and no breech and bolt mechanism, so the gun could be made there are such types already in production made in Australia I believe but much larger with multiple barrels for use as ship defense.

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 10:28:21 am
content: Quote from: G7PSK on April 24, 2012, 09:56:00 am1:02 into the video says this is neither a rail gun nor some pneumatic variant. It's a barrel, heat shield, and some cheap plastic tube wrap secured with string...and there's no way everything else necessary to launch projectiles with deadly force is all shoved in that tube wrap.

author: AntiProtonBoy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 11:28:30 am
content: Quote from: slateraptor on April 24, 2012, 06:11:51 amI realise this is going to be a potential can of worms, I dare say that living without guns is actually quite good!

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 02:37:27 pm
content: The idea of assassin robots was brought up in an unsuccessful movie:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_%281984_film%29Written by Michael Crichton. When I saw it I knew it was easily doable; today they are remotely controlled rather than autonomous, but full autonomy can easily be achieved.When U. of Penn engineering school released these robots to fanfare and interest:http://www.upenn.edu/spotlights/penn-quadrotors-tedI wrote them and commented that putting a fairly light and small charge of plastic, these robots were perfect for making kamikaze runs. Every comment I left went unanswered and on blog were deleted.They received funding from DARPA. Although the robots have dual use, the military application finds more likely growth to further reduce troop exposures to enemy fire particularly for enhance sniper effectiveness and reconnaissance runs, particular where satellites are blind: indoors and underground, making future project funding effectively guaranteed.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 03:11:05 pm
content: Quote from: slateraptor on April 24, 2012, 10:28:21 amI know what is shown is not real I am just saying there are weapon systems which could be built light enough you do not need an AR as such just a tube loaded with projectiles and propellant, fired electronically as shown in the video link I provided, These weapons have no mechanical breech just a barrel pre loaded.

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 03:57:12 pm
content: Quote from: G7PSK on April 24, 2012, 03:11:05 pmThis "electronic firing" that you vaguely allude to evades my imagination. The way how I see, it's gotta be either pneumatic, mechanical, or rail gun...otherwise, a breeched cartridge design would be necessary.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 05:41:21 pm
content: A tube containing a stack of charges each one topped by a projectile each one has an electrical connection that fires it each circuit is controlled by a micro processor so that each projectile can be fired in sequence no mechanics and no kinematics.

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 06:06:52 pm
content: Quote from: G7PSK on April 24, 2012, 05:41:21 pm...and the mysterious cartridge reveals itself.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 08:04:49 pm
content: Look at this link.http://www.metalstorm.com/content/view/66/110/It explains the system concept.

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 24, 2012, 10:37:26 pm
content: Quote from: G7PSK on April 24, 2012, 03:11:05 pmQuote from: slateraptor on April 24, 2012, 03:57:12 pmhttp://www.metalstorm.com/content/view/64/109/...which is a breeched cartridge design, as previously mentioned.

author: PeteInTexas
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2012, 04:34:17 am
content: Quote from: G7PSK on April 24, 2012, 05:41:21 pmAn electronic musket?

author: slateraptor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2012, 08:14:11 am
content: Quote from: PeteInTexas on April 25, 2012, 04:34:17 amI highly doubt they're muzzle loaded...that would def be a step in the wrong direction no matter how extravagant the ammo may be.

author: G7PSK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 25, 2012, 08:54:30 am
content: With the first ones which came out in the early 90's the barrel assembly was not reusable the whole tube was replaced. If you have a cartridge in the barrel the next round could jam with disastrous results. Today they use conventional warheads but they attach their own tailpiece which is the propellant, no cartridge is involved just like muzzle loaders, I do not know from which end the loading is achieved but with the metal storm type system where the launch tube is discarded it really does not matter, its done in the factory, its military stuff and cost wont come into it.

author: Obi_Kwiet
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2012, 10:45:03 pm
content: Quote from: slateraptor on April 24, 2012, 06:05:56 amHe's got more than that. I don't know what kind of connections he has, but they've got to be pretty good. I don't know what it takes to be able to test fire prototype military equipment on You Tube, but I'm very surprised that it's even possible. He had an episode where he dual wielded AA-12s, and everything I have read about that gun says that there is no civilian availability of that weapon, nor is any version planned.Maybe it is all faked. I wouldn't be surprised.

author: sonicj
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 26, 2012, 11:41:07 pm
content: Quote from: Obi_Kwiet on April 26, 2012, 10:45:03 pmthe heli video was a ad sponsored by a gaming company with deep pockets and talented CG artists.all of the rest of his videos that i have seen appear legit imo. (aside from the accent of course)-sj

author: TerminalJack505
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2012, 06:46:53 pm
content: Check out this week'sThis Week In Engineeringvideo.Apparently this video has inspired the US Department of Defense to try building something similar. Sigh.TWIE 104: Real Weapon Inspired by Call of Duty Game