HP $4889.99 computer which is dodgy and full of spyware - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Simmed
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2025, 11:42:56 pm
content: HP gaming computers is BS00:00 - The Worst Pre-Built Gaming PC We've Reviewed02:14 - The Marketing Will Continue Until Morale Improves02:25 - 03:25 (short intro of the PC)04:07 - Specs and Pricing06:40 - Tear Down10:00 - The CPU Cooler, Paste, GPU14:40 - Something Actually Good18:50 - Benchmark: CPU Frequency19:42 - Benchmark: Frequency Over Time20:14 - Benchmark: Performance Losses20:45 -intel 285K ($530) but performs badly like a 265K ($260)21:00 - Benchmark: CPU Thermals vs Power23:15 - Benchmark: GPU Thermals24:17 - Benchmark: Acoustics25:16 - Benchmark: Power Consumption25:53 - BIOS Inspection27:24 - Bloat and Spyware28:42 - Warranty Voiding30:34 - Packaging31:15 - Benchmark: Diagnosing the Failures33:32 - Benchmark: CPU Power Behavior32:44 -badly designed heat exchange adding about +9C temperature overhead33:47 - Benchmark: CPU Frequency Diagnosis34:00 - Benchmark: Pump and Fan Speed34:19 - Conclusion35:07 - HP uses a weird pink shirt old lady to promote a kind of odd / weird tagline " KEEP MOTHER COOL " , what does that mean ?what da hell did i just watch ?this is the state of big corp computing ?** found itHP "keep mother cool" videodid the producer ate thermal paste for inspiration ?

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2025, 12:17:06 am
content: XMP disabled? classic.Not sure why they can't do something like enable XMP by default right in the BIOS. Maybe a auto fallback to default if you want to be safe.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2025, 01:44:12 am
content: One can only hope that someone at HP who hasn't drunk the marketing Kool-Aid sees this.

author: Simmed
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2025, 03:43:44 am
content: i am starting to understand what some other guys are saying"you need to sign in to play youtube videos"it looks like YT is preventing playback of videos linked off site from youtube itself

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2025, 05:00:34 am
content: No problem watching it here (US) on YooToob. Is it because of your location?

author: Simmed
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2025, 05:01:49 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on September 05, 2025, 05:00:34 am

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2025, 07:55:34 am
content: For that price I wouldn't expect these things for a start:Windows 11*Home*from what I remember where Microsoft paid their employee's to rip out and cripple things from the Pro version.RealtekRTL8852BEhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Realtek/comments/16ttfrx/realtek_rtl8852be_wifi_6_80211ax_pcie_adapter/Quote"Cryo Chamber" for the person who brought it to cry in.1 year LIMITED warranty.With my Lenovo W700 in 2008 I got like 3 years onsite for about £130? I think and the total was half the price of that.2:53They don't seem to say WHICH "2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe Performances M.2 SSD."PATENTED COOLING... Defining the cutting edge..."That is exactly what they did they defined it to running below the stock performance earlier in the video.Bullword Bullshit:dazzling, "Cryo Chamber", revolutionary, adaption, "battle station", mastery.4:34 One thing I like which I don't often see is a bracket on the right supporting the graphics on the other end of the case but those lights on those fans changing colour would pretty much distract and annoy me.5:17 Using MATX motherboards in an ATX case is technically fine, but restricts the user from adding any other PCIe card below the GPU,and we were told they'd be kitchen sinksJoke: What I think they mean is there is room for one in the empty space below the motherboard.Hardly any space for the fans where the front cover goes on.Cryochamber idea for people to cry on it.Stupidityreaching a new low:Joke: Might be one of the most cleanest dust free dust grills ever made. Some overzealous arrogant working there probably changed the design and moved that dust grill from over the fan onto the glass to try and stop it gathering dust so it doesn't obscure their distracting colour changing leds.14:12 To get the the SSD's out you have to take the graphics card out.What kind of a solution is that.

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 05, 2025, 02:51:49 pm
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on September 05, 2025, 07:55:34 amBoth my old X370 and my new-ish X570 have the M2 mounted below the first graphics card slot.And honestly: On my old computer, I did exchange it once in the lifetime of almost a decade. The extra 30 seconds to remove and 30 seconds to reinstall the GFX were less effort than removing the new SSD from its packaging.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 17, 2025, 06:02:42 am
content: "No problem here".Oh yeah, real science in action. You don't see it in your system. We all thank you for that (us on the team).!BTW, the issue that I had brought up, seeing as Google and YouTube have same ownership, I have pointed out that the sub-entity called YouTube SEEMS to ask for simple APP upgrade. And, how is that to be done, (you ask)?Simple. Go on your Google account, to upgrade the yt APP. Makes sense, but also is a (ransomware) type of forced compliance.OR, you can no longer play many of the newer yt videos.Some videos seem to get you past that barrier, so it hasn't been 100 %but more like 93 % are unplay-able until you've obtained a Google account with sign in and password.

author: ftg
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 17, 2025, 08:20:37 am
content: Quote from: thm_w on September 05, 2025, 12:17:06 amThis is potentially related to their contracts and guarantees with Intel and whatever the DRAM vendor they use is.None will guarantee that XMP will work 100% of the time.So it's easier to keep it disabled by default.It does not help that at one point in time Intel considered XMP overclocking and thus warranty voiding.One example:https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/c6et03/apparently_using_xmp_voids_your_warranty/

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 17, 2025, 10:34:17 pm
content: Quote from: ftg on September 17, 2025, 08:20:37 amYes but its a prebuilt, they should be able to guarantee specific performance figures, use internally certified parts, and maintain those levels.Intel 285K officially supports 6400MT/s, RAM officially supports 5600, and this bios was running at 4800?