New Uni-T "Ultra Phosphor" Oscilloscopes - Page 1
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author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 09:43:39 am
content: I was browsing Uni-T's site and came across these new well spec'd, "Ultra Phosphor" oscilloscopes with graded displays in their 2015 catalog. Does anyone know who the OEM is? I didn't see any reviews or teardowns posted anywhere.Here's a link to the catalog:http://www.uni-trend.com/uploads/soft/Catalog/2015--catalog-EN.pdfI couldn't find any high res photos, so here's a shitty marketing pic:

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 10:07:26 am
content: Ultra Phosphor, Super Phosphor (SDS1000X), very similar! +1 for Siglent.EDIT: However, looking at Siglent's scopes, there aren't any with side buttons on the left of the screen... intriguing

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 10:24:09 am
content: Quote from: 3roomlab on November 13, 2015, 09:54:17 amActually, the whole scope looks pretty much like Rigol.

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 10:30:27 am
content: Quote from: Wuerstchenhund on November 13, 2015, 10:24:09 amhmm, this looks slightly similar (also in terms of specs - 4ch, 500MHz, 4GS/s sample rate):

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 11:56:51 am
content: I resized the largest image that google found and it does look very similar to Rigol:

author: nfmax
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 12:11:59 pm
content: Unlikely to be a Rigol. Look at the shape of the front panel moulding. This is likely to be one of the most expensive pieces of tooling in the whole production, so even minor detail differences (unless they could be produced by an insert) are indicative that this is somebody else copying Rigol's 'house style'.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 12:15:29 pm
content: Quote from: frenky on November 13, 2015, 11:56:51 amIt looks about as much like the Rigol as any other current scope with a similar spec.Slightly bigger screen than the last generation - checkLots of context sensitive buttons around the screen - checkPer channel colour for the controls - checkA few diagonal buttons as a crude substitute for being stylish - checkMarginally adequate sampling rate for the maximum bandwidth option - checkImpressive sounding amounts of RAM that will take an age to sift through - checkImpressive sounding waveforms per second rate that few people make any real use of - checkSounds bang up to date.

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 01:56:06 pm
content: I was doing just a visual comparison not by specs. 90% of the buttons and knobs is on the same place as on Rigol.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 03:38:57 pm
content: Quote from: frenky on November 13, 2015, 01:56:06 pmMost of the buttons are in the same place on most scopes. The general layout of a scope settled down a generation ago. There isn't must commonality in the position of the other buttons.

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 04:15:31 pm
content: Quote from: coppice on November 13, 2015, 03:38:57 pmYou're right that the general layout is pretty much the same amongst most scopes, however a few things are pretty remarkable:- The "Shortcut keys" button group on the right-hand side is identical in labeling and grouping to the DS4k's top right button group- The "Function Menu" button group in the upper right-hand corner is identical in labeling and grouping to the DS4k's button group right above the vertical controls- Math and Ref buttons between Ch 1 and 2 are labelled and positioned the same as on the DS4k- The large jog/dial controller and the three play/pause/record buttons below are similarly positioned on the DS4k- The on-screen menu/info looks pretty similar to that of the DS4k- The softkeys on each side of the display both have up/down keys as on the DS4k, which suggests the menu structure must be somewhat similar to the DS4kThere's more, but none of the things above can be said to be common to other DSOs. Most don't even have the same functional grouping. And the menu up/down buttons in both softkey sets is pretty much Rigol specific.My guess is that this scope is manufactured by Rigol as a customized variant of its DS4000 Series.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 04:40:30 pm
content: Quote from: Wuerstchenhund on November 13, 2015, 04:15:31 pmThere are certainly a lot of design cues taken from the Rigol. On the right the Rigol has a diagonal blue label right where the Unitrend has a diagonal blue button. That's unlikely to be a coincidence.

author: Hydrawerk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 09:14:10 pm
content: Well, there were many UNI-T scopes that were never sold in Europe... Like this one.

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 09:47:11 pm
content: Would that be an original design? The UNI-T site says that it has an 8.4" screen, which is apparently rare on scopes. The only other ones with 8.4" screens that I could find were Yokogawa MSOs...

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 10:19:05 pm
content: -GASP- a Three dimensional oscilloscope... really ? but how will 2dimensional beings use that ?

author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 13, 2015, 10:36:45 pm
content: Yeah those "3D" scopes look pretty interesting. The design and specs remind me a lot of Lecroy's midrange from the last decade.I think the UPO2XXX series looks intriguing as well. 2-4 channels with 100 - 200 MHz bandwidth at 1GS/s? Looks like an over-spec'd version of the DS1XXXz series.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2015, 01:31:29 am
content: I posted before in the other thread about striking similarities of Rigol and Siglent oscilloscopes' gutshttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-800-siglent-1000x-oscilloscope-teardown/msg776422/#msg776422https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-800-siglent-1000x-oscilloscope-teardown/msg779466/#msg779466Seems Uni-T joined the pack of half brained Chinese scope manufacturers.Or they all used the same 3rd party designer.And I bet they all have the same errors in the design.

author: coppice
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2015, 04:30:21 am
content: Quote from: Bud on November 14, 2015, 01:31:29 amSimilarity? You posted something showing the designs are utterly different. The only similarity is where there input channels are located, because that's where EVERYONE puts their input channels.

author: crispy_tofu
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2015, 04:37:36 am
content: Quote from: free_electron on November 13, 2015, 10:19:05 pmFlat Stanley, is that you?

author: JSE009
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 14, 2015, 03:25:11 pm
content: I wonder what the market prices will be and if this scope will be available in Europe.Until now there is not much known about these new scopes from Uni-T.The UPO2000 serie looks more like the Rigol 1000z serie?Features and Benefits:1?Sample Rate up to 1GS/s?2?Channels 2/4?3?Bandwidth 100MHz?160MHz?200MHz?4?Memory Depth 32Mpts(Standard)?5?Waveform Capture Rate up to 30,000wfms/s?6?With 256 level intensity grading display?7?Up to 65,000 frames for Waveform Record ,Replay?8?Support serial bus trigger and decoding?9?8 inches, TFT LCD?WVGA(800*480)?10?Interface?USB Host, USB Device, LAN, VGA, AUX OUT, 10MHz input/output.It would be nice to have a teardown and impression of this scope when this scope is available on the market.