Need help identifying a quick-connect terminal please - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / beginners

author: Lasherž
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 05:42:27 am
content: I've been trying to identify this terminal all weekend and it's driving me bananas. I've searched so much that Google's asked me to verify my humanity and I'm not sure any more myself. I'm having dreams about it now.I've been able to find it on one single site, which is this:https://connectorexperts.com/i-31645543-term498.html?ref=category:1458515Mine is the same exactly on all of the surfaces, although mine doesn't appear to have the outer edge M and instead says M then further towards the edge SEC or SE8, the final character is illegible.It has what would seem to me like an easily identifiable mark W/M and also that strange cog-shaped c or o logo, but I haven't been able to find it on Mouser, Digikey, Google, a few other sites but I've done deep dives on the first 2. This has so far netted me this similarity but not exactly what I'm looking for:https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity-AMP/183025-1?qs=UMrTGIqlm7n5fwhEa5Ai7Q%3D%3DIt's so similar in fact that it's only missing a tab and it's shorter (16.5mm compared to 18.44 that I measured). Still I don't see any logos like that on any TE connectivity items, so I'm hoping that one of you can save me from this wild goose chase that I've subjected myself to. I could buy them for 36 dollars for 10, but I would prefer to have more than that and the price is insane compared to the usual scumbags.Edit: I linked to the wrong page on connectorexperts originally.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 09:28:58 am
content: Some basic info, like dimensions, where it's found, etc. would be useful. (From the links, looks like maybe an automotive connector? So give info about make, model, etc.) Is it a standalone connector or a contact for a multi-pin connector? Etc. Etc. Etc.

author: Nusa
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 10:16:58 am
content: Well, I can tell you the connectorexperts one is shorter than 18.44 mm as well. Dimensions aren't given, but it's pictured against a fractional-inch marked mat. 5/8 = 15.875, 6/8 = 19.050, which means 18.44 should be closer to 6/8's than what the picture shows.Pictures of the exemplar(s) you've got currently, along with whatever connector housing it goes into. A clear shot of the logo you talked about. And whatever it mates to. And what tooki asked for.

author: Lasherž
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 03:42:51 pm
content: From what I've measured it's:18.44mm length6.04mm width3.34mm heightInner tab can be a maximum of 5mm wide and 1.5mm tall. The length of the tab could be 5mm without sticking out the back.It is indeed automotive, the housing for it I've included in the pictures as well and the logo is the same (but much more visible on the housing). It's from a 2014 Honda Accord for a rear speaker wire which clips to the speaker terminals.

author: Lasherž
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 03:51:15 pm
content: One more image showing the housing and the side-view of the tabs. 5k limit prevented a 3rd image.

author: ArthurDent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 04:39:57 pm
content: Google AMP Faston F2 crimp connector. These are common and probably available at WalMart, Home Depot, and any auto parts store. Take one with you to match the size. Note your terminal may be a modification to lock into the plastic shell

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 05:23:18 pm
content: The usual small Fastons mate with a flat tab, either 1/8, 3/16, or 1/4 inch wide.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 06:32:04 pm
content: Quote from: Lasherž on July 06, 2020, 03:42:51 pmOnce you gave this basic info, 5 minutes of googling told me it's a connector by Sumitomo Electric. The "maximum 5mm" means it'll be an industry-standard 4.8mm.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 06:33:43 pm
content: In fact, looking at the closeup of the connector, I bet the "SE" stands for "Sumitomo Electric" (it's their logo next to it), and the M likely means it's themedium size terminal.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 06:40:28 pm
content: Since you didn't provide any pictures of the mating surface of the connector, or of the top,I can't really tell which one it is for certain. I think it's either a6098-0325or6098-0471but could also be a6098-5119.Look at those and see which matches. Each one then has the matching terminals linked.And actually, looking at the terminal drawings narrows it down to the last one, as its terminals are nominally 3.4mm thick, whereas the others are 3.8mm. So boom, the part you need isSumitomo 8100-0606.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 06:54:29 pm
content: And this place sells those for $0.27 a piece:http://www.cycleterminal.com/hd-series.html

author: Nusa
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 07:08:43 pm
content: Good job, tooki.Depends on what your goal is, of course. If you're trying to fix a damaged connector on the harness, that's perfect.The other obvious source is to go to the parts counter at a Honda dealership. The car is new enough to be supported.If you're just trying to connect to it to attach non-stock speakers, there's adapter cables all over the place, easily found with search string "honda accord speaker connector" (knowing the context helps so much!). Here's one:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002BEPJY

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 06, 2020, 08:58:02 pm
content: Quote from: tooki on July 06, 2020, 06:32:04 pm4.8 mm is 3/16 inch, one of the normal Faston options.

author: Lasherž
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2020, 03:39:02 pm
content: Wow Tooki thanks so much. I think you've got the part pegged. It's definitely sumitomo and $.27 is amazing compared to over 10x that from the terminal dealer I linked. You're much better at Googling than me, so I'm curious what the proper term is for these? Mouser was listing similar pieces under the classification of terminal, quick connect, connector, and tab connector.I gave Honda a call just now and I guess they don't source individual connectors except for the taillights. She said if I brought it in they might be able to find it in their scrap parts but I think I'm going to try and source it new. I could get it from a junkyard for sure if I go there in person, but I figure I'll probably get the best deal going Tooki's route at this point. I appreciate your help all the same.

author: Lasherž
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 07, 2020, 03:44:24 pm
content: Tim, the reason why I needed it to be specific is because those tabs you can see on the third image allow it to clip into the connector. Without those tabs simply fitting the same 4.8mm connector isn't enough, but I think in general faston is at least a good range of parts to keep on hand since it will work. However, this case is all about returning to as close to stock as possible, so it'll have to clip in correctly not just to the mating connector but to the harness.