Apple and Microsoft are trying to "Gaslight" me - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2019, 05:03:20 pm
content: I tried to burn a (CD) playlist from iTunes on my newish PC. It errored with code "0xC0AA0301".I tried to burn directly from Windows 10 an audio CD: this time, a general error.Though I can play CDs, I've never actually burned one on this machine. I ran all hardware diagnostics on the drive and all were passed.I've fallen between two stools as I need a solution to a Microsoft problem that renders me able to create an Apple solution!I've looked everywhere and can find nothing that works.Any ideas please?

author: m98
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2019, 06:58:44 pm
content: Just starting with the simple stuff, are you sure you actually have a DVD-RW drive and that its capable of writing onto CD-R?

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2019, 07:08:13 pm
content: Cee Dee? Did we roll back the clocks to 1995?

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2019, 07:14:59 pm
content: Sounds like something has installed a broken filter driver. Try reinstalling iTunes and any CD/DVD burning software you have.I'm not sure how this counts as gaslighting though?

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2019, 07:18:54 pm
content: Win10: Try to burn withCDBurnerXP. For the sake of simplicity install it fromninite.com

author: Bratster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2019, 07:19:57 pm
content: before you start messing with installing and uninstalling software Etc,confirm that you actually have a drive capable of burning a CD.Open device manager and make sure that you see a CD or dvd burner under the drive section.If you're using Windows 10, right click the start button and then click device manager.Sent from my Fi Moto x4 using Tapatalk

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2019, 08:18:06 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on February 08, 2019, 07:08:13 pmHey watch it, I still use floppy diskettes. I actually got a pack of DSHD microfloppies not too long ago, brand new off Amazon.because all of mine keep breaking q.q

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2019, 11:22:11 pm
content: Quote from: hwj-d on February 08, 2019, 07:18:54 pmhttp://cdburnerxp.se/en/homeRequires .NETAlso uses OpenCandyIs not portable.Quote"Trusted by Millions"Millions of very, very, VERY trusting people.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 12:13:17 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on February 08, 2019, 11:22:11 pmErrrk.

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 12:50:45 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on February 08, 2019, 11:22:11 pmPlease, i'm not stupid!There's no OpenCandy!What did you screw up to got this?Edit: I told, get this with ninite!I used ninite.com without problems more then a few hundred explizit installations over the years, and i have some experience with prevent and remove unwanted malware on BS as windows and others!So,please, don't tell such crap.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 01:26:35 am
content: On Windows, I use Imgburn. It's been working fine for me for years. However, I'm using an old version that I've copied from one pc to another, so I haven't "installed" it in a while. It may be bundled with crapware/advertising/whatever now. And even though it isn't installed, it still saves settings and such to the Registry..

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 01:42:51 am
content: Quote from: hwj-d on February 09, 2019, 12:50:45 amGetting your software from a third party is always a great policy for reducing potential malware.

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 01:55:05 am
content: Quote from: Ampera on February 09, 2019, 01:42:51 amYes, if.But did you really understand, what is ninite?Ninite is an automation script, for the original install packet!The "bullshit" is the

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 02:04:10 am
content: Ninite is a package management system for Windows. Why one would specifically chose to download their programs like this on Windows is beyond me. Yes that's an accepted practice on Linux, but a unified file system and command interpreter integration makes that a bit more useful, on top of the fact that most repos are hosted by the same people who host the individual distros. Even still, adding more relays, scripts, and other bullshit into the mix doesn't make for better security, if anything that adds more things to go wrong.Don't give people strange links to what is effectively an aggregate download site (or at least takes the appearance of one), since those have been time and time again perfect breeding grounds for crap, and I would not blame anyone for throwing you out with your links. The safest policy is to ALWAYS get your software (especially on Windows) from the source, and not from any third party mirrors, install scripts, package managers, whatever, and to hash check your downloads if you're concerned. Windows already has a package management system and doesn't need another one.

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 02:05:32 am
content: Quote from: rdl on February 09, 2019, 01:26:35 amYes, that's an alternative too.But, who the heck claims, that this is bundled with malware??In such an undifferentiated claim the malware mostly sits in front of the monitor.

author: tsman
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 02:11:22 am
content: Quote from: hwj-d on February 09, 2019, 02:05:32 amTheCDBurnerXP FAQsays they bundle OpenCandy. However, it looks like the FAQ is out of date and they bundle installCore now which is also classified as adware. You need to go to the download page and select "More download options" to find the clean download. All of the other download links have it bundled.Quote

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 02:33:53 am
content: Quote from: Ampera on February 09, 2019, 02:04:10 amOh, please, stop teaching other people what would be right or wrong in your principle!I know apt update/upgrade just as well as you.This was about a tip, and about the claim thatthe original softwarewould spread malware.I also know problems with software from undefined sources and fight it myself. I have used ninite in the free version several hundred times and more, andneverhad a problem with it. And if I recommend this, then it already has its harmless reason! So get off of silly counterstatements again, please!

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 02:44:18 am
content: Quote from: tsman on February 09, 2019, 02:11:22 amI told:Get this with ninite!What's so hard about that to understand?If this is actually contained in the original, ninite filters it out!Edit: But despite everything, thanks for the hint.

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 04:09:46 am
content: Another hint:On the original website is a versionwithout InstallCore(see more downloads). This version should be clean.This burning app is one of "must-have" vor win, if you want to burn CD's/DVD's.-- and please, after download, before install, maybe unzip it, and use Malwarebytes (-free) to check it.-- Win10: use/activate Defender!

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 05:16:20 am
content: Quote from: hwj-d on February 09, 2019, 04:09:46 amThere are plenty of fish in the sea. Calm down.

author: Bratster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 06:15:57 am
content: Edit: I still think that the OP needs to check their hardware and make sure it actually is capable of burning discs before proceeding with any software. /EditI can definitely see the argument against ninite, you don't necessarily know exactly what it's doing, and have to trust that it's not malicious.However having used in the past I do like it and trust it at least as much as the original installers for the programs.It's actually better in some regards, a lot of those free programs like CDburner, have adware Etc that you have to be very careful to uncheck while you're going through the install process. Ninite does not have that, it already stripped those out.Sent from my Fi Moto x4 using Tapatalk

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 11:00:51 am
content: Quote from: Monkeh on February 09, 2019, 05:16:20 amSo, tell us, which concrete, please.There is nothing to calm down from, except from undifferentiated sayings.

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 11:29:10 am
content: Cheers all.Device Manager lists it as: PLDS DVD+-RW DU-8A5LH which "Google" assures me is capable of writing. Indeed, during the Dell diagnostics it did a write test which was passed, apparently!(I did notice though that Device Manager says: "Device type: DVD/CD-ROM drives" and "ROM" implies that it can't write!?)I don't have any burning software as I had assumed I could do it in Windows … somewhere or in iTunes. Initially, I thought it was an iTunes problem but neither Windows Media nor "File Explorer" can write either so it must be my machine. Hardware seems to check out so, it must be software.I was initially trying to make an audio CD (very 1980s) but now realise that I can't write anything. Yes, "Gaslighting" is a bit strong but I get paranoid when there are two parties involved in a problem (as I initially thought) like when the builder blames the electrician and the electrician blames the builder!

author: soldar
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 11:57:45 am
content: Quote from: PerranOak on February 08, 2019, 05:03:20 pmDo you have the files in WAV format residing on your computer?I am still with Win XP Pro SP3 and have not burnt a CD in like, forever, but if I ever needed to I still have Nero and it works flawlessly every time. Seeing that both the HW and software are over 10 years old I have no doubt that anything more recent can burn CDs.Let us know exactly what steps you are doing and what happens.

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 09, 2019, 12:10:20 pm
content: PerranOakWindows Media Player is also able to rip original music-cd's, and burn mp3 and others back to music-cd's.Maybe you have a optical defective writer, or used before mediums. Mostly you can't use cd/dvd's from a previous burn attempt for instance win filexplorer itself, which also try to burn, but do nothing more as destroy the cd. So, use a fresh one.To have firstly a success experience, try to rip a original music-cd.Set win media-player like on the pictures (excuse german menus). After that, close wmp and start it again. With open wmp, only insert the original cd. Wmp should instantly begin to rip every track from the original cd to mp3 in directory music. Then you know, your writer is working.After that, try to burn them back from inside wmp.

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2019, 04:24:01 pm
content: Thank you.I did that and it rips ok. The same error happens when I try to write though.

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 10, 2019, 05:57:49 pm
content: Quote from: PerranOak on February 10, 2019, 04:24:01 pmIf you used fresh mediums, maybe they are not the right kind or poor quality (try other brands), or your burner isn't a burner or defective.Good luck.->https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/unable-to-burn-dvd-error-0xc0aa0301/9c0753d5-122c-44ac-9fd2-78c3a137fcfd

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2019, 04:59:39 pm
content: I'm a bit too cowardly to use some of the more "windowsy" methods (registry stuff, etc.) but I had a thought: if I get some DVD burning software and install it, will that solve it?

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2019, 07:38:20 pm
content: My vote goes for Imgburn as well, although Symantec showed the original download contains Opencandy.The one in the Majorgeeks website does nothttps://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/imgburn.htmlIt works well on my Windows 10 professional

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2019, 11:13:41 pm
content: Quote from: PerranOak on February 12, 2019, 04:59:39 pmNo. If Windows Media Player doesn't burn, other software can't do also.Frankly said, i belive, something is wrong with your burner itself.An otherburner SATA 5.25"isn't too expensive, or use one temporarely from an other computer to verify it through the exclusion procedure. There are two plugged cables at the burners back which you can easily attach to the temporarely replacement device that you just put next to the open case.That would be your next step.Edit: An other idea is, to delete the dvd-driver completely from the device manager. After that, there should be an unknown device, that will ask you to reinstall. Don't take it from your computer again, take the new one online. This procedure asks you for that.Good luck.

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2019, 12:34:03 pm
content: Thank you.I don't like to mess inside the PC. How about if I get a cheap USB DVD player?

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2019, 01:03:04 pm
content: Quote from: PerranOak on February 14, 2019, 12:34:03 pmTake it apart, that's the motto of EEVBLOG.But usb-writer is also a good idea, if you know that fixes the problem, which you still don't know exactly. But on the other hand it's not so elegant not to have replaced the defective one next to it.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2019, 05:09:52 pm
content: Quote from: PerranOak on February 14, 2019, 12:34:03 pmA decent quality one shouldn't cost much.The last time I bought an internal optical disk drive was 2008. I still use it occasionally, but most of the time I use a Samsung portable DVD writer I got for $30 from Newegg. Since I don't need an optical drive that often, it's easier and simpler to have just one drive that I can move from machine to machine as needed. These days it spends most of its time in the box it came in though.

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2019, 05:35:04 pm
content: Cheers both.I would take it apart if it wasn't so new-ish.

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2019, 11:03:59 am
content: One last question:if I uninstall/reinstall IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers [on Device Manager the item is: Intel(R) 100 Series/C230 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller],this will not affect the hard drives will it?

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2019, 12:29:04 pm
content: Quote from: PerranOak on February 17, 2019, 11:03:59 amWhywould you want to do that??Don't touch it, if you don't want to ruin your booting ability.AHCI settings corresponds with your BIOS-settings and is absolute necessary for your momentan installed system.Yes, someone can reinstall the SATA AHCI driver in therunningsystem, but then you should absolutely know, what you are doing here. If you ask "this will not affect the hard drives, will it?", then you don't know!

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2019, 03:44:24 pm
content: Right, thank you. Some said this was something to uninstall and then reboot like with the DVD itself.I will not touch it!

author: nick_d
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2019, 01:09:44 am
content: Another possibility might be using a LiveCD Linux distribution.You could try a Linux Mint or Ubuntu LiveCD. Another one I've used a lot in the past is called the SystemRescueCD. I can't say definitely if it has the burning tools on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it does. You could mount your Windows partition to access the *.iso you want to burn.cheers, Nick

author: TheNewLab
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 19, 2019, 03:27:12 am
content: Newish Computer..What machine are u using..Brand, model no.??o just post a screen short of the About the computer.( Mac/Linux/Windows all have their own way of showing that info)I like the Linux LiveCD method, only why not just copy the music on a USB thumb drive an then use another computer to do the burn to CD..or take to a friend'sHack go to a cafe, and ask someone tapping away on their laptop to quickly burn the music to a CD that you bring. Buy her a doughnut or something...What do you want as the final item? A CD with the music on it? I have had CDs that just do not like the CD?DVD burner and had to use another brand. This happens.Once you copy to a thumb drive. just grab some CDs and go find another machine.

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2019, 02:44:52 pm
content: Hi,Details:machine: Dell Inspiron 3668processor: Intel Core i5-7400 @ 3.00GHzRAM: 8Gbsystem type: 64-bit operating system, x64-based processorWindows: 10 ProWin version: 1803OS Build: 17134.590It's just that I want to be able to use the drive that I paid for. I do use more sensible devices for music, back-ups, etc.One thing I noticed is that on my laptop (Windows 8.1) under [Device Manager:IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers] it has "ATA Channel 0 and ATA Channel 1".My Inspiron (the problem one) does not have these two items.Is this significant?

author: hwj-d
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2019, 02:58:56 pm
content: Why are you looking so unstructured into the blue? With such questions you can and we can hardly help you with the best will in the world. Work through the suggestions first, please.Edit: My suggestion, - and others - was, see on the burner first.

author: PerranOak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2019, 03:26:14 pm
content: Thanks all very much.I tried everything suggested but to no avail.In the end, I gave up and bought an external drive: I can burn now so all is well; though I do feel that I cheated.