What is a Hantek DSO2D10 - Page 1
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author: pendoric
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 03:38:13 am
content: I am wondering if the Hantek DSO2D10 is any good. I can't find this on the Hantek site.Includes a Signal gen and 2 channels for <$200. Also has 150Mhz version for a little more.I am looking for a reasonable low cost scope for a noob (actually did a fair bit of digital stuff way back in the day at Uni) but now heading back into the rabbit hole as a hobby.https://usa.banggood.com/Hantek-DSO2D10-Digital-Oscilloscope-2CH+1CH-Digital-Storage-1GS-or-s-Sampling-Rate-100MHz-Bandwidth-Dual-Channel-Economical-Oscilloscope-with-Signal-Source(AWG)-p-1765904.html?cur_warehouse=CNIn the Vertical section it does say.Bandwidth limit 20MHzSo I am wondering if this is one of those "pocket" scopes in a desk case and not really a 100/150Mhz unit.If this is not a good option what is a new model that will do the job. Absolute max cost of about $400 but prefer about $200.Cheers.Dave. (a different Dave)

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 03:46:33 am
content: Quote from: pendoric on November 05, 2020, 03:38:13 amThat will be a low pass filter that you can switch on to eliminate high frequency noise. All DSOs have that (orshouldhave...)Quote from: pendoric on November 05, 2020, 03:38:13 amYou don't say what the "job" is but if you live in the USA then grab one of these while you still can:https://www.tequipment.net/Instek/GDS-1054B/Digital-Oscilloscopes/?search=trueThey're absolutely the best value you can get for under $400 (and cost about $500 everywhere else).PS: Look for TE discount codes hidden in these forums, you'll get it for under $300. Also look for the hacking thread to unlock features.

author: rvalente
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 12:41:05 pm
content: This black front panel trend is just horrible, I miss the old and boring gray

author: pendoric
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2020, 05:57:39 pm
content: Yes I was originally thinking this was some sort of knock off but the manual does download from Hantek. Also the unit have a 150Mhz option and is the 'new' black look.https://usa.banggood.com/Hantek-DSO2D15-Dual-Channel-+-AFG-Digital-Storage-Oscilloscope-150MHz-1GSa-or-s-Signal-Generator-Oscilloscope-2-In-1-1-p-1766504.html?rmmds=category&cur_warehouse=CNSo now am wondering is it a new model. That said it does say the following in the specs that are concerning (but actually probably honest for most scopes in this range).Note: Bandwidth reduced to 6MHz when using a 1X probe

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 06, 2020, 12:14:23 am
content: Quote from: pendoric on November 05, 2020, 05:57:39 pmI don't know where "6MHz" comes from but on all 'scopes you usually need to turn on the 20MHz limiter when you use 1x probes or the background radio noise will swamp the signal.

author: Microcheap
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2020, 12:02:35 am
content: Quote from: pendoric on November 05, 2020, 03:38:13 amThese are the new "low cost" models from Hantek that are supposedly available only for the Chinese market at this moment.The specs seems ok, it even has a 12bit hi-resolution mode but I don't know how good it really is. Normally, Hantek makes descent hardware (considering its price range). I would be more concerned on how stable is the firmware, Hantek products are famous for be very buggy.Quote from: pendoric on November 05, 2020, 05:57:39 pmI think that's a limitation of x1 probes, not of the oscilloscope. Dave made a video about that a long time ago:https://youtu.be/OiAmER1OJh4

author: pendoric
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2020, 08:01:04 pm
content: Do you know if this is Zynq based like the Siglent SDS-1202X-E (Zynq 7020) or Instek GDS-1054B (Zynq 7010). If so any idea which model?If it Zynq based a 150Mhz (none hacked) scope with Sig Gen and signal decode for $237 will be a killerhttps://usa.banggood.com/Hantek-DSO2D15-Dual-Channel-+-AFG-Digital-Storage-Oscilloscope-150MHz-1GSa-or-s-Signal-Generator-Oscilloscope-2-In-1-1-p-1766504.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CNThough I must admit I am leaning to the GDS-1054B as it is 4 channel though lower frequency.

author: Microcheap
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2020, 11:46:58 pm
content: Sorry, I have no idea which FPGA they are using but, as I said, given Hantek's history, I would be more concerned about the firmware quality, specially in such a new product.I've never used a GW-Instek so I can't comment on that but, you will find some supporters of the brand here in the forum, it seems to be a solid device and, if you can have 4ch, that's a no-brainer.I am not sure but, I think you can "upgrade" the GDS to a higher bandwidth too:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/possible-gw-instek-gds-1000b-hack/If you decide for the hantek, have a look on Aliexpress, stuff is usually cheaper than Banggood and now on 11/11 they will have a big sale and you can get a lot of discounts coupons.

author: superKris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2020, 10:28:58 pm
content: Anyone has any new info on this? I ordered one on banggood a few days ago. It will be my first scope since you fluke scopemeter form the 90s. I'm not very interested in capturing high frequency stuff so i got the DSO2D10.I'm a total noob with scopes, but it seems very similar to the DSO5102P with the biggest difference being the memory. I guess this means i can capture a longer for a longer time at the same time resolution right? I like this for my DC stuff.Hope the firmware will be decent. I once owned a USB DSO by Hantek. Most horrible software ever!

author: Perepandel
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2020, 11:52:09 am
content: Hi,There was already a thread for this I opened almost a month ago:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-hantek-dso2x1x-modelsI also asked about this on the 200Mhz hack thread:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg3290518/#msg3290518What's the 1x probes issue? Could you explain it with a bit more detail, please? Is it common to any oscillo or is it a Hantek issue?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 17, 2020, 02:19:28 pm
content: Quote from: Perepandel on November 17, 2020, 11:52:09 am

author: pendoric
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 02, 2020, 12:09:16 am
content: Just closing the loop on this thread.In the end I picked up a Siglent SDS-1104X-E new from Amazon on a black Friday deal at $424I was about to pull the trigger on the GW-Instek GDS-1054B that is a hell of a deal at $310 but decided the for the extra $114 to get 2 DACs vs 1 (can do two channels at 1Gs/s each) and possible future expansion of 16 digital channels and siggen (bode plot) if I ever want them down the road.I am still intrigued by the Hantek DSO2D10 and DSO2D15, they may well have done me fine. In the end with no teardowns or even critical reviews out there I passed and moved up market a little.I probably now have way more scope than i need but a big thanks to Fungus for pointing me at quality alternatives that I would not have considered otherwise.

author: flashcoder
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 04, 2020, 03:36:58 am
content: Hi there,not trying to steal the thread but wanted to thank people on the forum, the information out there is vast. I am in the market for a more modern scope, I currently own the good old Tektronix TDS210 which is great but I wanted to get 4 channels and some modern features. I was looking very strongly at Instek GDS1054B, separate controls per channel, the 10Mpts memory per channel and quick FFT update thanks to fast Zinq processor but when I watched Dave Jones teardown and the noise glitches it has at mV resolution I started to rethink it all. I do like the GUI of Instek scopes very much really that is their big plus in my opinion, menus are nice and you can hide them all. But just like you I ended up ordering Siglent SDS1104X-E, on paper its better and build quality is better but I still feel kind of torn apart because I already fell in love with Instek, they did really good job actually. But specs are better for Siglent though their screen looks kinda dull and almost monochromatic.Anyway, just wanted to let you know I went the same path, wanted to get GDS1054B but ended up buying Siglent SDS1104X-E. Dave in his teardown video showed that this one is using 200mHz capable frontend so maybe there will be some "nice upgrades" possible as well

author: superKris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 11, 2020, 11:13:03 am
content: So who here actualy has the scope?I ordered mine a month ago on banggood, en they just keep pushing the shipment date without any real information about why.

author: upsss
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2020, 02:09:53 am
content: I ordered mine a week ago also from Banggood and my shipping date was pushed more than 3 weeks, their excuses "excessive demand".

author: Microcheap
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2020, 03:58:47 am
content: Shipping from China is very complicated at this time, there's a shortage of flights and ships leaving the ports. Apparently the government is imposing some restrictions to try to contain a raise in cases of COVID, all worsened by the natural high demand of this time of the year. As a result, the shipping costs have skyrocketed.Another explanation could be that (that's all my speculation) as Hantek said that these model have not been released abroad yet, they were intended to the Chinese market at first, they could be holding the orders from the sellers trying to ship the oscilloscopes abroad.

author: superKris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2020, 08:17:27 am
content: Plenty of other stuff being shipped from China. Anyway i see no indication this have tried to ship it in the last month.Banggood is claiming they are waiting for new stock, but i doubt they ever had any stock. The lead times they are claiming seem to be random and based on nothing.You could be right about the Hantek not shipping the scopes to export customers. I hope thats not the case. The other thing i'm fearing is that they sold at to low prices and are waiting for a chance to buy at a better price.I rather not cancel my order as i got a decent deal with a coupon and banggood offers a shipping solution where I dont have to pay extra import taxes.

author: 5370H55V
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2020, 10:25:42 pm
content: I'm in the same boat with a thermal camera (Uni-t UTi260B) I ordered from Banggood, so it's likely not an issue with Hantek.I placed my order while the camera was still in stock with a "ship before" date of 12/13, then over the weekend the listing changes from in stock to preorder, and my ship date got pushed out to 12/26 with no warning. I'd rather not cancel because there was a pretty good discount on it, and I doubt I can get a similar price if I reorder elsewhere...

author: Perepandel
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2020, 03:35:58 pm
content: If any of those reasons for the delay you are especulating with are right, then I must have been a very lucky guy. Did I already say that I own two of these machines? I got them nearly one / one month and a half, each in a span of two weeks or so (the timespan between each order). And I got them for two different AliExpress stores, which had even better offers that Bangood had (in fact Bangood didn't have them on sale when I ordered mine). Using the slowest, cheapest (in fact, free shipping) methods, as you know it's the only way to avoid extra freight and charges during the custom clearance process. From China to Spain in about two weeks each.

author: upsss
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 16, 2020, 05:49:52 pm
content: The regular lowest prices for these scopes on Aliexpress is slightly lower than the lowest regular prices on Banggood (including shipping). However, you can find online a 15% off coupons for Banggood which makes the Banggood scopes quit cheaper than the Aliexpress scopes. I paid total of $210 for the DSO2D10 and that includes $18 for shipping and "shipping insurance".BTW, the above is true for US orders shipped to the US, I have no idea if any of this applies to orders outside the US.

author: superKris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2020, 09:59:20 am
content: I ordered mine at € 173,- (approx € 212,-) including shipment to the Netherlands.It can be found on Aliexpress for the same price, but i will have to pay additional import taxes and fees to the forwarder. These will likely add up to approx 50 to 70,-. Banggood has a system where these taxes and fees can be avoided.Meanwhile i send another mail and got another generic reply. The customer service of these Chinese companys is horrible.I'm happy to hear that some other people did receive these. It seems there are no reviews or even stupid unboxing videos of these models. That kinda makes me think none have been delivered yet.How are you liking yours?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2020, 02:53:10 am
content: Will this be the year of the Hantek?

author: 4Z1ZV
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 22, 2020, 08:49:49 pm
content: Got mine today from Banggood.Works great, loaded with features.Will further test and share.

author: upsss
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2020, 03:13:49 am
content: 4Z1ZV, Tithadesh

author: superKris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2020, 10:48:12 am
content: Banggood keeps pushing the date. I dont think they have any idea if and when they can deliver. I just requsted to cancel the order as i do not believe they will ship in the near future.Due to import taxes Aliexpress is not the best alternative to order from.I see people on here claiming they already received one, but i'm starting to doubt the availability of this scope and i'm not even sure this scope already exists.There is not a single crappy youtube movie or forum post of anyone sharing their experience or problems. Its 2020 and its no realistic nobody has anything to share about such a product. I dont think i have ever seen a actual picture of it. Just the sellers adds. I'm not saying its a hoax yet, but there are certainly some issues.

author: tunk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2020, 11:33:39 am
content: There's this short youtube video:

author: MentalFloss
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2021, 12:26:52 pm
content: Could anyone who actually has one of these confirm that it has 80M points of memory. I find it hard to believe on such a cheap scope. The 5102P only has 40K and is a bit more expensive. Also what do you think of the display? Compared to the 5102P which is the other scope I'm looking at the readings on the bottom of the screen look very blocky and is putting me off it a bit.

author: Algoma
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2021, 03:52:21 pm
content: 8M of Sample memory, Thorugh the main CPU has an internal 64MB for the operating system. and there is a 1G (128MB?) onboard Winbond flash memory.It runs fastest at 4K. 40K and 400K.. The 4M and 8M memory settings tends to slow it down a bit, but are great for single shot captures.The 5102P is a bit more expensive, mostly because of the more chips and Separate Dual ADCs that allows it to maintain the full sample rate across both channels.. This newer DSO2 models are quite simplified in design, using larger, more integrated ICs, such as a Dual Channel ADC, and new (custom?) FPGA to interface with the larger ADC.The display is pretty good, bright and clear colors, but the Allwinner CPU seems to hold it back a bit in redraw rate. Overall it refreshes pretty well for an entry level scope. Yes, the interface is pretty blocky, but its functional enough to take the needed measurements. Again something that may be improved in future firmware updates.

author: MentalFloss
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2021, 05:32:06 pm
content: Quote from: Algoma on February 04, 2021, 03:52:21 pmThanks for the reply. Are you sure about the sample rate? I'm sure I read somewhere that the 5102P shares the sampling rate when running both channels so that maximum sampling per channel would be 500MSa/S. Still can't believe it has 80M record length at the low price!

author: Algoma
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 04, 2021, 05:44:14 pm
content: Only Eight Million Points memory, not 80. Still far more than enough for an entry level scope. I typically only need the 40K setting so far.I'm thinking they're selling it low price to quickly get market share and reviews out there, then the price will go up. Its already up nearly $30 since I bought mine.As far as we can tell, as discussed in another thread, it appears to use an ADC of Texas Instruments ADC08D500 This does 500Msa/S in dual channel mode, or 1Gsa/S in single channel mode by interleaving the input through both internal ADCs. Its actually got a bandwidth rating above what this scope is using it for, depending on the quality of the front-end feeding it.

author: SBS
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 14, 2021, 03:05:43 pm
content: There seems to be some difficulty getting these.I ordered mine from Banggood, when they changed from preorder to simply order. They now pushed the date delivery date back.As I am also located in Canada, may I be so bold as to please ask from where you ordered your scope and what was the deliver delay.

author: Algoma
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2021, 04:39:52 pm
content: @SBS - Its likely Banggood is trying to get too many at once, on a limited supply. Though Banggood does generally have the best price.I ordered from Aliexpress Seller "Hantek Official Store"https://www.aliexpress.com/store/2792111At the rate they're restocking units, its pretty close to direct from Hantek. It shipped from a warehouse in Hong Kong, by DHL. Beware that DHL shipping arrives with hidden brokerage fees and taxes. I paid an extra $25 to DHL, but it arrived within a week of ordering. unfortunately the price has gone up $50 since I ordered.Order was on Jan 19 - Their note said restock was on Jan 21, 2021,Shipped Jan 22 2021 free shipping via DHL to CanadaReceived Jan 26, 2021Main discussion thread has been over here for these models:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-hantek-dso2x1x-models/

author: upsss
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2021, 06:02:09 pm
content: @Algoma, I am curious, is this $25 DHL brokerage fee you paid anything to do with DHL in Canada? The AliExpress store clearly specifies "FREE DHL Shipping", did you question this extra fee? I never heard of this "Brokerage" fee here in the US.I ordered my scope (DSO2D10) from Banggood 2 month ago and I am still waiting. If they don't ship it by Feb. 25 which is their newest shipped by date, I will cancel my order. My problem with Aliexpress is that they are charging now a fake US States sales tax which Banggood doesn't plus I got 15% off coupon from Banggood. It looks like they ALL try to gouge the customer.

author: Algoma
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2021, 07:10:31 pm
content: Canada always collects sales taxes on everything over of certain value being imported, excepting special classes of items, such as Books and Children's toys.DHL often takes it upon themselves to process import paperwork on your behalf, when its needed by customs. They charge a fee for this fully automated procedure, and collect taxes based on the declared value, $40USD in this case. This is common for DHL coming into most countries in the world, including Canada.If US sales taxes were already collected at the time of purchase, then the there should be no additional fees, as the seller should've already filed the required fees and paperwork when sending the package, as required by US customs.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2021, 07:32:09 pm
content: Quote from: Algoma on February 14, 2021, 07:10:31 pmSpain, too... 30 Euros per packet for all the hard work they do on your behalf.(ie. Scan a barcode)And then they'll break the 48-hour-delivery garantee and leave you a note saying, "We called but you weren't home!". You won't be able to claim under that garantee because only the sender can make that claim and they're a foreign company who doesn't feel like spending hours on the phone with DHL on your behalf.

author: CDN_Torsten
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2021, 10:40:52 pm
content: My experience here in Canada is: DHL/UPS/FedEx and Purolater - minimum $20 no matter what the declared value is. Usually the real tax is <$3 and the rest is service fee.Worst is FedEx - you get your package, no fees at the time of delivery, and then you get a letter in the mail asking for money.

author: MADxHAWK
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2021, 01:12:33 pm
content: I ordered mine for about 180 EURO at Aliexpress on 03.18.2021 and it was delivered today (03.20.2021)Well ok it was send from Czech Republic to Germany so i was lucky i dont have to wai for the delivery from China.Its a nice scope with lots of features from what i could test so far.Also it seems that the DSO2D10 or Hanketk in general is a Keysight Scope. At least the Download link for the software from the Manual guided me to the Keysight Website.Well i will try to report some more Informations about the handling.The last time i worked with a scope was about 25 years ago, an good old HAMEG and Simens, both 20MHz analog Scopes.

author: Microcheap
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 20, 2021, 03:57:23 pm
content: Hantek oscilloscopes has absolutely nothing to do with Keysight, maybe the choice of black color for the new instruments, and that's all.TheIO Librariesis the Keysight's implementation for theVISA standardused for SCPI communication. Hantek is using that just for convenience. You could, in theory, use the drivers provided by any other vendor, ie:NI-Visa.

author: MADxHAWK
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2021, 02:29:43 pm
content: Quote from: Microcheap on March 20, 2021, 03:57:23 pmThanks for the information.Anyway, i have to return the oscilloscope citing warranty claims.The oscilloscope occasionally freezes during measurements and can only be used again after a restart. This often happens when changing the timebase to zoom in on a signal, but also when using the math function (FFT for example).A few days ago the scope was then completely frozen and could not be used again even after restarting it several times.The Hantek support was very quick despite the time difference of 8 hours and always replied within 24 hours.I received a zip file with the operating system and instructions on how to put the oscilloscope into maintenance mode and install a new system.After reinstalling the system, the scope was usable again. Unfortunately, the new software did not fix the occasional crash of the Scope and it still freezes occasionally, so that only a restart helps, which is quite annoying.Therefore I will send the scope back and claim a refund.I think i will buy a Rigol DS1102Z-E, 2-channel, 100MHz,1 GSa/s, 24 Mpts when i got the refund.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2021, 02:36:35 pm
content: If you want to use FFT , consider buying a 1000 series Keysight. All Chinese low cost scopes suck at FFT speed.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2021, 03:02:48 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on March 28, 2021, 02:36:35 pmDon't tell tautech that.

author: Algoma
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 28, 2021, 03:13:28 pm
content: The FPGA in these scopes should be able to easily do a full Hardware FFT, on the entire sample memory... Yet Hantek only calculates on only 2K points of what is displayed on screen.From the Manual:Quote.Only a VERY small sample gets calculated, and the slow calculation rate makes me think they're doing the FFT all in software running on the tiny application processor, when they've got a reasonably powerful FPGA sitting right there beside it running only basic IO duties as far as I can tell.Its a hobbyist grade FFT at best within these entry level scopes. If you need to make serious use of FFT then yes, you need to spend at least double the price, and get something that can do a real FFT calculation.