wtb XC9536 XC9572 XC95108, XC9500 & XL CPLD, in PLCC package - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2017, 09:08:10 am
content: hi guysI have a few old projects (likethisone, nothing special, but notes it uses a XC9572XL-PLCC) pending for components and I'd like to play with PLCC package.XC9500 is dead and for new project you'd better go to XC9500XL but, since it's for hobby, I'd like to have both if possible.The datasheet reports that new XL are Pin-compatible with 5V-core, e.g. the XC9572 device in the 44-pin PLCC package has the same pinout as the XC9572XLThis, because I need to design the components on gEDA as well as on EagleCAD ("Xilinx.lib" doesn't happen to have a lot of CPLD components)Main differences between XC9500 and XC9500XLon XL, the voltage for internal logic and input buffers is 3.3V, instead of 5V, but on the same pinon XL, the supply voltage for output drivers is 3.3V, instead of 5V, but on the same pinon XL, the high-level input voltage on user-pins can accept 5VFor XILINX, XL is still supported, XC9500 is deadXL is more optimized and efficientI can't find XC9500XL chips in PLCC package, Farnel and RS offer only the smd version.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I am looking forXC9536XL, and old XC9536 (if possible), 44-Pin PLCCXC9572XL, and old XC9572 (if possible), 44-Pin PLCCXC95108XL, and old XC95108 (if possible), 84-Pin PLCCContact me in private if you happen to have some chip for sale.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks

author: daybyter
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2017, 01:16:56 pm
content: I found mine on eBay and AliExpress.

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2017, 01:29:54 pm
content: Quote from: daybyter on July 28, 2017, 01:16:56 pmI'd like to avoid those places, especially AliExpress: in my experiences it was very bad.I prefer to buy from people here on the forum, or from a respectable seller in Europe.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2017, 09:16:36 pm
content: If you give some idea how many you need and what you are willing to pay I'll go and look to see how many I still have. I bought quite a few XC95108 5V 84pin PLCC many years ago via Digikey. I think they have the industrial? temperature range. They are still in the Digikey packaging. I've probably still got 10 or 20 of them new/unused never left the original packaging.

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2017, 11:15:56 pm
content: Tried to send you a PM to discuss things, but I got an error messageQuoteIt seems your PM box is blockedQuote from: G0HZU on July 28, 2017, 09:16:36 pmMe, too, via Digikey. It was 2008Quote from: G0HZU on July 28, 2017, 09:16:36 pmExcellent!Quote from: G0HZU on July 28, 2017, 09:16:36 pmSo, you only have the XC95108 5V chip.No so bad. It's goodQuote from: G0HZU on July 28, 2017, 09:16:36 pmAh, say for a minimal qty of 5 chips, what is your offer?p.s.if you make me a good price, I would also consider to buy 10 chips.I believe 10 is the maximum amount of chips I need with a conservative policy for future projects. Actually I need four chips for four different projects, this 5 is enough, but I have a few ideas pending in my mind.p.s.2if you prefer a "swap", I can give you one/two working ARM-linux boards designed with ARIA-G25.

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2017, 12:55:38 am
content: QuoteThanks for the offer but I don't think we are going to work something out here. The chips I have here are genuine industrial temperature rated parts bought in November 2005. The Digikey number is 122-1246ND as per the picture below. These were expensive parts and are very rare nowadays...https://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/xilinx-inc/XC95108-15PC84I/122-1246-ND/406845If you just want hobby parts to play with then try ebay. These are probably clones but may be OK for what you want?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XC95108-7PC84C-Manu-XILINX-Encapsulation-PLCC-84-/321164876323?hash=item4ac6eb1a23:g:zRcAAOxyXDhSjPRuThey are a lot cheaper than what I am expecting for the ones I have here. I found one tube with 10 left in it and I think I have more tubes somewhere. See the image below.

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2017, 03:25:51 am
content: Beware of fake Xilinx 9536 on Aliexpress and others, we have bought 300 of them and had lots of troubles, could not stand oven soldering or even failed after 24 hrs of burn tests, the chip id became bad etc... The hint was the marking in plain white and really brite, the originals Xilinx products are in pale "brownish" coloring.I have a few XC9572, i'll check if i have the XL variants and a few XC9536 ...We replaced the 9572 with atmel atf1504 with a customized plcc84 pins pcb adapter, in our machines.The 95108 if available can do a great job,they are not priced too high. Well they did go up in the pricing ....

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2017, 07:37:41 am
content: QuoteIf it helps, here's what my genuine originals look like in the supplied tube from Digikey. They have the brown colour to the text and you can check the font size against any fakes.

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2017, 08:29:37 am
content: Quote from: G0HZU on July 29, 2017, 12:55:38 amOffered boards is just an idea, they are professional made, something like 60 euro each.Btw, you haven't proposed a price yet!Quote from: G0HZU on July 29, 2017, 12:55:38 amSure, give me a price and let me decide.p.s.can't you enable PM?

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2017, 08:36:43 am
content: Quote from: coromonadalix on July 29, 2017, 03:25:51 amSure, I never buy from them: all garbage. I have already experimented failures and frustration with such individuals.Quote from: coromonadalix on July 29, 2017, 03:25:51 amgood, the XC9572 5V is perfect for one of my projects.Let me know if you can sell, price, and quantity.Please PM meQuote from: coromonadalix on July 29, 2017, 03:25:51 amYup, it's good because it allows me to interface a CPU on its 32bit data bus.All of this, without the need to force the CPU into 8bit databus mode

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2017, 09:05:18 am
content: User 'G0HZU' has blocked your personal message.still got the error message

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 10:05:41 am
content: Found a few XC9572, still looking for someXC95108

author: coromonadalix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 10:21:55 am
content: I have 15x xc9572 no XL variants, but they have been programmed in the past, i had checked them with the Xilinx Impact software ...

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2017, 06:51:42 pm
content: Thanks but I have already found a few XC9572 chips, now I am looking for some XC95108

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 05, 2017, 07:44:29 pm
content: Quote from: G0HZU on July 29, 2017, 07:37:41 amWhy do you offer goods, and then disappear?Your PM is still blocked, and the above offer is still pending without a price ...What's wrong, man? I need your chips!

author: DD4DA
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2017, 07:23:33 pm
content: The main differen between XC9500 and the XC9500XL is the source voltage. The main stream uses 3.3V instead 5V. In consequence of this, Xilinx has changed them a couple of years ago. I have just a handfull of 5V devices for spare. Newer design should not use them.

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2017, 08:44:43 pm
content: Quote from: DD4DA on August 06, 2017, 07:23:33 pmdo you have a few for sale?

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2017, 12:17:15 am
content: Up!One of my project doesn't fit with XC9572 since it needs more internal resources in the logic circuits inside.This I need to replace it with a XC95108 chip which fits the design.Never investigated but itseemsthat on the PCB side differences are minimal in changing the chip:XC9572-PC84 ---> XC95108-PC84I am still in the need of findinga couple of XC95108-PC84chips

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2017, 12:09:15 pm
content: UP

author: kmike
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2017, 08:55:58 am
content: If you have socketed the PLCC chip this could maybe help:www.ebay.de/itm/152641958134I am not the seller, but also bought onebr,mike