Nickel shortage - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 07:21:18 pm
content: This is getting endless.

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 08:04:22 pm
content: Perhaps there is still a reason for the German term "Kupfernickel", literally "Devil's copper".

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 08:33:56 pm
content: Both nickel and copper come from the time of Earth's creation, dust from exploded stars (https://blog.sdss.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/periodic_table.png). Neither are renewable. Dig baby dig.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 08:42:54 pm
content: Quote from: jpanhalt on April 03, 2022, 08:33:56 pmMost of what there is on Earth is just that.Renewable is a convenient, yet misleading term. Everything ends up getting recycled. What we call "renewable" is what recycles faster.Atomic elements, unless they somehow decay, are always recycled as is.For compound matter, that depends. It may take millions of years to form again as it was, or may never.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 08:47:10 pm
content: Abiogenic "fossil fuel" is an exception, or perhaps another example of a misleading name. Not a discussion for here, however.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 09:02:47 pm
content: The only time I've heard of abiogenic fossil fuel was a fundamentalist religious nut trying to shoehorn an explanation of fossil fuels into the box formed by their religious beliefs.

author: Stray Electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 10:08:28 pm
content: The "abiogenic" (fossil origin) theory of the origin of petroleum has been around for a very long time in the US and in Europe. it's what I was taught in school but I never heard it called 'abiogenic". The "abiotic" (inorganic origin) theory has only been around since the 1950s but was limited almost entirely to Russian language papers so few people in the west are familiar with it.But it's starting to look like oil and petroleum originates frombothsources with the majority of it coming from abiotic sources.http://www.geotimes.org/nov04/NN_nonfossilfuels.htmlHere is a very good paper that discusses some of the competing theories about the origin of petroleum.https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1751-3928.2006.tb00271.xI wonder what Bishop Ussher would have to say about how and when petroleum was created?

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 10:25:55 pm
content: The "biogenic" origin of petroleum probably occurred before the start of Ussher's chronology (4004 BC).

author: eti
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 11:14:19 pm
content: Good. It's high time the EV delusion got shattered.

author: jpanhalt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2022, 11:37:39 pm
content: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin#:~:text=From%20Wikipedia%2C%20the%20free%20encyclopedia,by%20the%20decomposition%20of%20organisms.Hydrocarbons are found throughout the universe. No one seriously doubts they can be formed by non-biologic means. Just look at the pools of hydrocarbons on Saturn's moon Titan.