Component List - With Spaghetti?! - Page 1
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author: Wil_Bloodworth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2023, 08:00:14 pm
content: I have been going over the components list for the EICO 221 and there is an asterisk next to a couple of components. The subtext for this is, "With spaghetti". What the heck does this mean?Thank you,- Wil

author: Wallace Gasiewicz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2023, 08:55:31 pm
content: Spaghetti is old fashioned term for insulating wire cover. Like shrink wrap, but does not shrink.

author: Jwillis
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2023, 09:19:42 pm
content: The old style cotton sleeving is still made for that real vintage look but many just use the fiberglass.

author: Wil_Bloodworth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2023, 09:45:16 pm
content: Quote from: Wallace Gasiewicz on December 14, 2023, 08:55:31 pmAh, ok. That makes sense now that I visualize it in my head. LOLThank you!- Wil

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2023, 11:45:44 pm
content: I guess calling itzitiwould've been even more obscure.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2023, 01:34:59 pm
content: And in critical applications, it’s common to use Teflon tubing for this purpose. In some European materials catalogs, they even specifically refer to the thin-walled, AWG-sized versions as “spaghetti type”.

author: Haenk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2023, 02:58:49 pm
content: And as we all know, Spaghetti are not hollow. So the use of this wording is weird.This is what you want to use:https://www.the-pasta-project.com/bucatini-spaghetti-hole/On the other hand, I only know "sleeves" (the woven ones) or "tubes" (solid, like Teflon or PVC).

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2023, 03:01:33 pm
content: Vintage "spaghetti" insulating tubing was varnished cambric, which is a bit stiff.You can still find it at websites for electric guitar enthusiasts, but the modern replacement is either Teflon tubing or polyolefin heat-shrink tubing.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2023, 03:14:40 pm
content: Quote from: Haenk on December 15, 2023, 02:58:49 pmI think it’s because the light-colored woven sleeving looked like cooked spaghetti, especially once there was a bunch of it in a device.Also, what you might not know is that in English, a common word for a tangle of cables is “cable spaghetti”. (In contrast with the “Kabelsalat” (“cable salad”) in German.)Quote from: Haenk on December 15, 2023, 02:58:49 pmActual pasta is not used.Quote from: Haenk on December 15, 2023, 02:58:49 pmSo what?!? Native English speaking electronics engineers and technicians know it.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2023, 03:16:20 pm
content: Quote from: TimFox on December 15, 2023, 03:01:33 pmOr woven fiberglass for high-temperature use, with or without silicone impregnation. Those are really common, too.

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2023, 05:57:15 pm
content: Quote from: TimFox on December 15, 2023, 03:01:33 pmMy father, who worked in the electronics area in the '70s-80s, used to call pieces of insulation (of any kind, generally a piece of elastic tube) "кембрик", that sounds exactly like that (well, almost -- more like "cam-brick"). Now I finally know where this word comes from originally. This must mean it was, at that time, used by even older generations of engineers who started to use it when it actually meant woven fabric, and one can only guess how it got transferred literally unchanged into the then-USSR from the western world.

author: Wil_Bloodworth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2023, 06:10:43 pm
content: Quote from: TimFox on December 15, 2023, 03:01:33 pmThis knowledge... is why the internet can be so useful.- Wil

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2023, 07:06:07 pm
content: Cambric is a woven cotton fabric, commonly used in shirts.Here is a discussion (for clothing) about the difference between cambric and other similar fabrics:https://monsoonweave.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/lawn-vs-voile-vs-cambric-vs-poplin-what-is-the-difference/

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2023, 07:15:05 pm
content: Quote from: TimFox on December 15, 2023, 07:06:07 pmYes, that's what I figured out by searching.The curious fact is that the word "cambric" has become, generally across ex-USSR, a common name for an insulation tube, or sleeve. Originally, obviously, a woven fabric insulation sleeve. The word "cambric" is not known here in any other meaning -- it only means insulation. Well, maybe it is, for example, in the clothing manufacturing circles, that I don't know.