My Micsig received an update today! (19 June 2021) - Page 1
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author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2021, 01:37:07 pm
content: I was fiddling with my Micsig a few minutes ago and there was a new "Sys Update" button under "Apps":I pressed the button, it downloaded something and installed it. I don't know if the main oscilloscope software has changed (yet) but a green "System Upgrade" icon definitely appeared on the scope's desktop.Now let's see if I can find anything else that's new...nb. You need WiFi enabled to receive these, obviously. I always have it connected so I can use the built-in FTP server to copy screenshots to my PC.Edit: The "System Upgrade" icon only opens a window that says "No new version!"

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2021, 02:10:18 pm
content: So, what is your current FW version?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 19, 2021, 04:16:05 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on June 19, 2021, 02:10:18 pm

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 20, 2021, 12:52:34 pm
content: This a process of upgrading Micsig oscilloscope via Android "App market". I have upgraded my unit few months back to 1.0.4. FW version 1.0.4 is currently the latest, there was no new FW available during this period for STO1104C/E series.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2021, 02:11:03 pm
content: Quote from: electr_peter on June 20, 2021, 12:52:34 pmThe downloadseemedquite small, too small for a 'scope software update.OTOH this update wasn't there before and itdidadd the green "System Upgrade" to my 'scope. I wonder if Micsig is planning something bigger soon. I suppose time will tell.PS: Does anybody else have this? Did you have the green icon before?

author: Hundleton1
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 20, 2021, 03:50:08 pm
content: Looks like they just added a new system update app, I have the same now, it shows no new version at the moment but i guess something is to come.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2021, 03:02:32 pm
content: Quote from: Hundleton1 on June 20, 2021, 03:50:08 pmIt sure looks like it to me.

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2021, 11:06:55 am
content: I just brought my Micsig STO1104C into life today. Mmm ... I did not look to the exact Android version and bulit...It was packed @Micsig in Nov 2020.From the "AppMarket", I installed "FTP Server" and "Sys Update", thus 2 new icons "AndroidFTP" and "SystemUpgrade" appeared on the desktop. Quite the normal behavior of any Android device.Starting "SystemUpgrade", it downloaded "Version 17" (which was about 241 MB if I remember correctly). The process was interrupted by me by changing the network connection from WLAN to LAN, but resumend after disconnecting and reconnecting the network connection.When download was completed (which took a incredibly long time) a button "Update" appeared. I hit this and the device did an usual OS update (with the android robot and a progress bar below), coming up toAndroid 5.1.1. / Kernel 3.4.39 (Mon Oct 12 2020) / Built LMY48G release-keysVer 17. ("Settings" > "System" > "About")Stock ROM apps are normally updated with OS updates. My "Oscilloscope" app is now 1.0.108. ("Settings" > "Apps" > switch to tab "all" > "Oscilloscop").If I remember correctly, it was 1.0.4. before, too.Do not mix up firmware and app versions. I think, Fungus has just installed the Sys Update app from AppMarket yet.edit: The "Oscilloscope" app itself is only ~28 MB. Upgrading the app should be much faster than this Ver 17 upgrade. But I think, they make heavy use of special OS features and newer app versions will not work with ancient OS builts, so upgrading OS is the better way.

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2021, 01:26:51 pm
content: offtopic (but nowhere found a better place to post)Quote from: Fungus on June 19, 2021, 01:37:07 pmI have some problems with that: After boot, my STO1104C often fails to connect. I have to go to the home screen and call the Wifi settings to reconnect.This can be a special issue with my AVM router and repeaters.Did you ever experienced this?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2021, 01:47:13 pm
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on June 22, 2021, 01:26:51 pmNo, never had a problem.

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2021, 06:35:26 pm
content: ... arrgh ... the notebook needs more than a minute to connect, too. Something's definitly going wrong here ...Another topic:Has anyone else here updated to "version 17" / 108?This was my first day exploring all the menus - I have a bunch of questions to answer, I think it's time for a bug thread since I haven't found anything like this for the MSO5k or the Siglents. Since they have the same UI and basically the same hardware, this could be a thread for all TO, ATO and STO models.This stress test was the first for my device, for me - and also with the 17 version. Having read a lot of praise here on the forum about the mature software and stable running, I'm very concerned in the evening of the day that I must have "shot down" the Scope half a dozen times today, only a reboot got it going again. This could be an issue with my setup here (hope not with the WLAN), with my device hardware or with this new software...I hope this is not normal like this. Once working, everything runs fine, but don't turn an encoder too fast ...Generally I had 5 readings on screen, the hardware frequency counter running and a pair of cursor on the screen with up to 4 channels with signals up to 100 MHz running <10Vpp. That should bring no device into difficulties.Do your Micsigs run more stable - and also after the upgrade?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2021, 07:39:13 pm
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on June 22, 2021, 11:06:55 amYes, so far I only got a new Sys Update App. I'll check tomorrow if there's a "firmware" update.Quote from: Pfriemler on June 22, 2021, 06:35:26 pmI've had mine for nearly a year and it's never crashed or done anything weird.Question: Does an Android "factory reset" revert to the original firmware?

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2021, 08:03:04 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 22, 2021, 07:39:13 pmDamned.QuoteVery unlikely, as I think this update today was a firmware patch.If the new version is buggy, only a dedicated firmware downgrade can help, which have to be proven by Micsig. Smartphones normally do not allow this due to security reasons, all the minor updates/upgrades known by Samsung&Co are "one way without return", at least if they were installed like this (the firmware patch is stored in a special area and the bootloader then switches to processes the patch, altering the installed firmware, then a reboot start the new firmware/OS, the user data are not affected. The patch files are deleted, different to Windows updates there are no uninstallation informations.A factory reset only cleans user data space and - hopefully - wipe the cache partition. Android firmwares always contains more or less apps, which can be updated by user via app store or sideload (i.e. from usb memory) - the firmware versions remain "muted" in the firmware area, the updates are installed separately. A factory reset removes all updates and reactivate all pre-installed apps in the firmware.Keep in mind: Never touch a running system.If my unstable version is a firmware issue, I hope Micsig will fix it soon.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2021, 08:31:33 pm
content: The oscilloscope part isn't "firmware" though, it's just another app on the device.ie. You can close it and re-launch it from the Android home screen.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2021, 08:39:59 pm
content: My ATO1102 is running Linux and is very stable. I do wonder why MICSIG moved to Android.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2021, 04:35:29 am
content: Quote from: Fraser on June 22, 2021, 08:39:59 pmAndroidisLinux

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2021, 07:02:31 am
content: Yeah I worded that badly. In my my software download area MICSIG described my unit as running “Linux” yet the STO series DSO was described as “Android”. MICSIG appeared to have changed from a pure Linux Kernel to the Android version. I have not delved deeper into the matter though.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2021, 07:45:03 am
content: Quote from: Fraser on June 22, 2021, 08:39:59 pmAndroid is Linux. AFAIK MicSig has always used Android as the base OS for their tablet oscilloscopes. Likely due to better support for touchscreen and gestures.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2021, 09:37:22 am
content: Interesting. The labelling of the software update confused me. I thought it odd to change from one OS to another for a very similar product. Thank you both for clearing up this confusion for meIt is ‘early days’ for me and my ATO1102 unit but I must say I enjoy using it as I have become so used to touch screen tablets. I still use conventional DSO’s but the MICSIG is an interesting change of format. It seems very well designed and it’s software is stable

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 23, 2021, 12:29:13 pm
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on June 22, 2021, 01:26:51 pmQuote from: Pfriemler on June 22, 2021, 06:35:26 pmI have not experienced such behavior from STO1104E. WiFi connects straight away (if I leave it on in settings) after booting. No problems with enabling/disabling WiFi or FTP via WiFi.

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2021, 07:20:55 pm
content: So I think it's time to inform my dealer and Micsig about my problems as soon as possible. There are definitely some issues with the horizontal encoder (it seems that the scope app is not able to process the commands fast enough. In addition, it could be that the scope hardware freezes periodically. However, maybe it is "only" a software problemOnly today the following happened:(a) after starting the scope, there was no data acquisition, no lines, even when channels were turned on/off. Seems like the hardware is not responding, but the UI is. I had to turn off and wait a minute for it to work again.b) while displaying a simple 27 MHz sine wave on one channel, the oscilloscope did three restarts in a row with no user action.Wifi was better today. The Wifi icon still shows an exclamation mark (disturbed internet connection) - this is also (strangely) the error message, meaning: "no internet connection, no further connection attempts are made". However, Internet access works flawlessly...After all, the thing connected by itself today. Once up and running, access via app, PC software and FTP is trouble-free.And another strange observation I made today:"Settings" > "Apps" > "All" reports version 1.0.108 for "Oscilloscope". In the AppStore the app "Smart Oscilloscope" still has the version 1.0.4. as already posted here.

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2021, 07:31:18 pm
content: For further investigation:would you please report the Built-Version of the Androidt, as I did before:QuoteIf someone uses the Ver 17, too, and have no bad experiences, I think there's no other way to return the whole device.If your Micsig runs stable and you do not have the Ver 17 installed, a firmware downgrade or a patch could help me.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2021, 09:20:10 pm
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on June 22, 2021, 11:06:55 amWas this new 'scope that you updated immediately without using the previous version?I haven't had time to check for updated 'scope App for mine yet. I've been out of the house all week.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 07:30:29 am
content: I just tried it and my Sys Update app still says "No new version!"

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 09:11:25 am
content: Yes, I did update immediately after unboxing.again: What is your exact model and firmware?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 09:41:51 am
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on June 24, 2021, 09:11:25 amMine is an STO1104C. The Android system info is identical to yours.That's just the OS though. They're on a 2012 version of Android ("Lollipop") so I think it's unlikely to change.The "oscilloscope" part is an installed Application. If I go to "App Market" and click on "Smart Oscilloscope" my version number is this:

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 10:40:13 am
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 24, 2021, 09:41:51 amLollipop is old but not so old (2012)! Nonetheless, can't understand why they don't update the SO.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 10:42:27 am
content: Quote from: tv84 on June 24, 2021, 10:40:13 amWhat would they gain?Newer versions might even need more memory, etc., than old ones.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 10:54:18 am
content: Quote from: Fungus on June 24, 2021, 10:42:27 amPerformance...

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 11:01:54 am
content: Did you compareallinfos on about, i.e. Built nr. - not only Android version 5.1.1? It's rather unlikely that they change this version number when improving the scope's app and functionality with a firmware patch. My smartphone's OS versions do not change with the "security updates", but the built nr and date does.With the mixed-up app version infos, see last line of myPost #20.Maybe this fw version is on market for months and your system has drawn it long before without the special APP (see the "Accept online updates" switch on "About" Screen). Or it was already on your device when you received it. My "pack list" is dated on 26th Nov, 2020. S/N:xx0402215.So it's more likely an hardware issue.btw: see your Wifi-Icon with: "!" - same here!and: new OS versions often include security improvements. E.g. if the webview component is not upgraded, browsers maybe will become vulnerable in the future. The system is not that closed like some MS Net Core based navigators.Besides that, I do not see the need for a updated OS version. I like my fast and stable HUAWEI G510, running on a (unsecure) 4.1.1. It runs more stable and the battery lasts longer compared to my Samsung S8.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 11:35:52 am
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on June 24, 2021, 11:01:54 amYes!

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 12:17:41 pm
content: Thx for comfirmation and patience!Just tried to delete all screenshots from device (since I saved and processed them) via FileManager - OS crashed. Repeated 2 times with the same result. Last reboot hangs in Micsig animation, then started with a "optimizing apps" info. Using the FileManager, looking at the screenshots and swiping them makes it freeze and reboot after seconds ... 1 min (hardware watchdog?)If not the download itself was corrupt (but I think the upgrade itself checks the downloaded file for integrity!) this is a hardware problem. Period.Now waiting for problem solutions from Micsig...

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 12:40:34 pm
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on June 24, 2021, 12:17:41 pmDo you hear fans spinning?I agree it is hardware problem...

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 01:58:42 pm
content: Quote from: 2N3055 on June 24, 2021, 12:40:34 pmFans? I assume there'soneat the backside, and yes, it does. But when the scope runs idle, it switches off and on again. Outcoming air is quite cool in a ~22-26 °C room.Heat is definitly not the problem.Next, please?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 02:00:08 pm
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on June 24, 2021, 12:17:41 pmHow about returning it to the seller or at least ask them for a solution? Or did you buy it directly from MicSig?

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 03:14:43 pm
content: Batronix, communication is in progress, fast and helpful, ++!. They were interested to read details from this thread and did inform Micsig about all details.If there's a way to get this device working, we'll give it a chance, otherwise ... yes.

author: 2N3055
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 06:26:59 pm
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on June 24, 2021, 03:14:43 pmBatronix is excellent company, you should have no problem to get another one that works. I would suggest to just do that, you being in Germany in few days you can sort this out.I'm sure Micsig would like to do failure analysis without anybody destroying evidence...

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 24, 2021, 06:53:55 pm
content: I am convinced that there will be a satisfactory solution for me in a few days, Batronix has indicated this quite clearly, meaning: "Before we replace the device, I would like to clarify whether this is even necessary." This is also quite in my mind, before the defective device has to travel halfway around the world or even be disposed of. I don't have a problem with suffering these crashes for a few days, in principle the device works and I can continue to use the time to get to know it.Unstable running androids are a typical phenomenon of failed firmware updates and there are a few tricks to cure that.I will keep you informed.

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 25, 2021, 09:20:11 am
content: Hello, Micsig support here. Batronix told us this problem.We are sorry to bring you this trouble. and I told them they can change a new oscilloscope to you.We will analyze the reason and keep you news updated .thanks for your support for us.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 25, 2021, 09:44:58 am
content: That is good customer support from MICSIG

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 12:21:33 pm
content: YEAH, the 2nd Micsig is here and is running behind me for ~1h. Some differences from the first, such as a DC offset of 1-4 mV on all channels (open input noise signal misses zero on both DC and AC couplings, maybe a self-calibration can help) - something I don't remember - the screenshots from the first show an offset of <1mV on only one channel). This is not something that makes me nervous, as it got less over time and is now <1mV (to check, just press the trigger button and watch the trigger level set). At first glance, the measurement accuracy is the same or even better.And: the fan runs continuously and seems louder to me, but still very healthy. The noise of the first one was definitely lower than that of my souped-up old oscilloscope, this one is more of the same. Maybe it's the battery charge now, we'll see. Or maybe a very specific internal overheating caused the first scope to crash when the fan stopped working (as it did often)?Nevertheless: it runs as it should: stable and good.No, this time I did not update the "Sys Update" app on the market, nor the Scope itself. Only the FTP server had to be installed. Wifi has the exclamation mark (!) on, but works fine. Reconnect is not yet tested.What is important for this thread:- the "About" screen is - as Fungus said - 100% the same, including the respective version numbers.- the "Oscilloscope" app version is 1.0.108 - the same! (Settings > Apps > slide to "all", or tap and hold the app icon and drag it to the top of the screen (i) )-opening the AppMarket, the app version "Smart Oscilloscope" is 1.0.108- not 1.0.4, as with my first Micsig and Fungus'.AFAIK it's a pretty big step from version 1.0.4 to 1.0.108, so why the store did offer that?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 01:08:00 pm
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on July 01, 2021, 12:21:33 pmYes, that's what self-calibration is for.Quote from: Pfriemler on July 01, 2021, 12:21:33 pmThe fan is temperature controlled so it turns on/off.My fan doesn't usually turn on until the 'scope's been running for 20 minutes or so. It lets me know when it's warmed up enough for a self-cal.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 01:11:29 pm
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on July 01, 2021, 12:21:33 pmIt's still "1.0" so only a minor update.I wonder what the differences are, and if there's an updated firmware out there then why doesn't it download on mine?

author: Monty
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 23, 2021, 08:04:21 pm
content: You can unlock STO1104C to STO1104E quite easily by using EFT Pro and Samsung ODIN3 tool. At first you must dump oscilloscope ROM to file. Then split ROM to file system Folders and bootloader file, cut spare space and then modify files responsible for S/N number and model parameters setting. Then you must load back to oscilloscope part of memory with modified model parameters. You can also probably able to add label function, segmented memory option from STO2000 series models, but I never tried this. So I think it does not make sense to pay more for STO1104E model. HW in model C and E is identical. Motherboards in both are the same STO1000_V5X_MB. Of course STO2000 HW is different. I think there will be somebody who will make complex tool for hacking/unlocking micsig STO1000 series features similary as with Siglent oscilloscopes.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 23, 2021, 10:18:29 pm
content: What about converting to ATO1104?

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2021, 08:16:51 am
content: Quote from: tv84 on July 23, 2021, 10:18:29 pmare you using in automotive diagnostic area?

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2021, 09:30:45 am
content: Quote from: Micsig_support on July 27, 2021, 08:16:51 amMyself no. But is the € difference in any specific software that comes with the scope?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2021, 09:34:37 am
content: Quote from: tv84 on July 27, 2021, 09:30:45 amYes, the "A" versions have "automotive" functions.See the comparison chart:https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Micsig-STO1104C.htmlYou also get probes with alligator clips and needles:

author: Monty
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 07, 2021, 03:35:47 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on July 23, 2021, 10:18:29 pmYou need ROM file from automotive version. You can try it yourself.

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2021, 10:31:21 am
content: hi, this is the ATO1104 standard accessories right now.And we also send free carry strap , screen make and BNC cap which we did not put them on.

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2021, 10:32:14 am
content: Quote from: tv84 on July 27, 2021, 09:30:45 amsoftware and accessories are different.

author: Attorney
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 09, 2021, 11:41:58 pm
content: Anyone know if the STO1104C is field-upgradable to a STO1104E which has more memory depth?Paul

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 10, 2021, 03:15:38 am
content: STO1104C and STO1104E, their hardware is not same, so they can not upgrade.So sorry.

author: Attorney
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 10, 2021, 03:27:33 am
content: JL, many thanks for the quick reply.Paul

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 02, 2021, 09:21:25 pm
content: In the "AppMarket", the newest "Smart Oscilloscope" version is now1.0.112(previously 1.0.108). Update went smoothly, did not notice any changes at first glance. This is for STO1104E, possibly other models as well.

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 06, 2021, 07:21:27 pm
content: It seems that both "App market" and "SW update" fails to find a connection (network error), although browser works on Wi-Fi. Previously it showed that not updates are available.Can anyone check this on STO1104E?

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 08, 2021, 01:19:29 pm
content: As expected, same here. STO1104C. "network error", no connection to market, Browser and downloads from MicSig (manuals) no problem.WTF are they doing?

author: Silicium81
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 11, 2021, 03:08:39 pm
content: Hello,Same for me, with my brand new STO1104C I cannot access AppMARKET with 'network is error'

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 11, 2021, 04:20:45 pm
content: >5 days and no reaction @MicSig?Quote from: Silicium81 on November 11, 2021, 03:08:39 pmThis is really bad 'cause you will not be able to install FTP-Server (for downloading screenshots from scope) and the office suite (PDF display), two things I would really miss on my scope.It's time to find a sideload mechanism. Maybe app installing via USB works für MicSig certified apps, at least. Did not try it yet.

author: Silicium81
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 11, 2021, 06:19:37 pm
content: Yes, I do not have access to the FTP ... I hope that MICSIG will solve the problem of access to their server!If I have access to an original MICSIG APK file, I can try to install with USB.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 11, 2021, 07:13:34 pm
content: Quote from: Silicium81 on November 11, 2021, 03:08:39 pmI got the same thing.Maybe they're beefing up the server to cope with the big update.

author: Silicium81
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2021, 08:48:18 am
content: I contacted the micsig support: response:The reason is we are updating our new website, so the web server can not work now.your scope working is fine.Micsig supportWait and see

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2021, 10:45:28 am
content: Hello，Due to we are updating our website, so the web serve working is not stable sometimes. I forwarded this info to our IT , and hope them can solve this question soon.Recently, there is no firmware to be released. do not be worry.Micsig support.

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2021, 11:14:38 am
content: Quote from: Silicium81 on November 11, 2021, 06:19:37 pmThis is why I want my Total Commander have installed.Quote from: Silicium81 on November 12, 2021, 08:48:18 amjust what I was about to do, but "hold on, help is on the way"Quote from: Micsig_support on November 12, 2021, 10:45:28 am"not stable", hm. This service isn't existing at all, I think. Or some kind of firewall prevents our devices from calling home.QuoteThis is not the point, I said.There are a (very) few but nevertheless useful tools missing on new scopes and the app store ist the only way to get them - as long as MicSig does not offer the apk files otherwise.No new firmware? nothing in sight from Fungus' brilliant suggestions?No app sideload?Not even an autorun of the ftp server?Please!

author: Silicium81
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2021, 09:54:34 am
content: Good news todayAccess to the Appmarkett is functional for me today with an update for smart Oscilloscope

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2021, 10:36:01 am
content: Quote from: Silicium81 on November 15, 2021, 09:54:34 amYep. Working again but no updates for me.What version is your "Smart Oscilloscope"? I have 1.0.112.(touch "Smart Oscilloscope" in the app store to see the version)

author: Silicium81
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2021, 12:15:25 pm
content: Version 5.1.0.112 after update.How long is the startup time for you?For me (ATO1104C), 25s for the office and 50s to be operational.I also have an error message for launching UserGuide ... (This error is unrelated to the update)

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2021, 07:55:35 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on November 15, 2021, 10:36:01 amAlthough they named it "current version", it's the version of the app in market. Goto settings - apps - change to "all" and search for "Oscillope" (not "Smart...") to check the installed version. Mine is 1.0.108, and the app store shows me 1.0.112, too.I also have "Unfortunately, UserGuide has stopped" message twice at every boot, only two days ago there was nothing like this. I messed around with the user guide two weeks ago since the file manager listed two copys, renamend one, but no errors.What do you get when calling "Help & Feedback" in "WPS Office"?I find some "WPS Office" processes running, like autostart. Maybe the error message has something to do with the WPS Office.

author: Silicium81
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2021, 08:40:52 pm
content: Thanks for the feedback, there are at least two of us!Same for me, the error message that appears twice was not present two days ago ...How quickly does your scope start? Is it as long as mine?

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 15, 2021, 09:36:34 pm
content: Quote from: Silicium81 on November 15, 2021, 08:40:52 pmYes. Sometimes I think it varies, but always missed to measure it.Take a look at my former post where I compared two micsigs:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/the-attempt-of-a-micsig-(as)to11xx-general-purpose-thread-)/msg3609570/#msg3609570

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 15, 2021, 10:19:45 am
content: Quote from: Pfriemler on November 15, 2021, 07:55:35 pmJust did all updates offered in AppMarket (including "UserGuide"!) - no more errors.

author: bogdan546
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2022, 08:58:58 pm
content: I have the same problem "Unfortunately, AppMarket has stopped"

author: Pfriemler
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 22, 2022, 07:23:04 pm
content: uups... this ist not the same. "<App> has stopped" is a crash notify. Sometimes cleaning the <app> data can solve this problem. No idea if it is useful here or not, at least it's possible to do. My app market version is 1.0.47.Just checked: Everything works, but the App Market states "network error" just as:Quote from: electr_peter on November 06, 2021, 07:21:27 pmMaybe they're messing around with their servers:Quote from: Micsig_support on November 12, 2021, 10:45:28 amandQuote from: Silicium81 on November 15, 2021, 08:40:52 pmjust now to desktop in 25s and scope's running 36s after pushing the power button. I am happy with that!

author: electr_peter
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 22, 2022, 08:50:23 pm
content: App market shows it has no connection. This happened before when MicSig changed something in server configuration, later connection came back. IIRC user manual was updated last time.

author: skander36
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2022, 06:35:14 pm
content: Today, 10 March , AppMarket still show "network is error" message.Micsig what is happened?

author: analog8484
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 18, 2022, 06:12:46 pm
content: I have v5.1.0.120 firmware on STO1104E but it has a display bug/problem for the Math function (seehttps://youtu.be/WGQH0bfT6oU). Has anyone seen this before?It makes the function less than useful. The TO1104 doesn't have any issue with the same test setup.Thanks in advance for any info.