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X-Ray images of Raytheon 320 x 240 BST sensor - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2016, 12:14:42 am
content: I thought it would be interesting to X-Ray image one of the Raytheon 320 x 240 pixel thermal imaging sensors that I have on my bench at the moment. I was hoping that the ROIC might show up but silicon is pretty transparent to X-Ray so it was no surprise that I could not see it with a quick X-Ray in full Auto mode. It may be possible if I mess around with manual settings but no time for that at the moment.The images may surprise you. Likely not what most people would expect to see inside this ceramic package. More on this with the X-Ray images. For starters and to set the scene, I attach pictures of the BST sensor so that you can see what it looks like on the outside.Fraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2016, 12:15:58 am
content: OK, now the X-Ray images......

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2016, 12:17:05 am
content: Some close-ups.....

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2016, 12:23:42 am
content: So what is the snake like shape covering the sensor ?The BST sensor is a ceramic package that contains the sensor array, Read Out IC and the temperature stabiliser. The temperature stabiliser takes the form of a Peltier element. I suggest that what we can see snaking around the sensor area is the Peltier element that is made up of individual junctions within each of the visible rectangles.The rear of the ceramic package is thermally bonded to the heat-sink via a thermally conductive pad.Sorry you cannot see the actual BST pixels, they are just too small and low density to image easily with my MX20 X-Ray machine.Fraser

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2016, 12:33:21 am
content: The serpentine track is just a heater, right? Or does it detect temperature gradients across the package?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 20, 2016, 02:18:24 am
content: The shape you see is a collection of Peltier junctions used to stabilise the temperature of the sensor die at around 32 Degrees C.Temperature sensors on the sensor die (normally at least two) feed into the closed loop temperature stabiliser circuit to maintain the correct die temperature.Fraser
Picked up a Therm-app Hz used. Is this noise normal? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Adonlude
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 08:03:06 am
content: I just want to make sure I got a working unit here. I got the Therm-app Plus app which can take out the vertical artifacts nicely but there seems to be lots of horizontal scanning noise that is really apparent when looking at a scene with minimum temperature delta. Is this normal or should I be worried I got a damaged unit? Here is a video of what I'm talking about:https://1drv.ms/v/s!Am0Xy_mQhCJIiQ0Rw1VSCIMUyveFIt seems to get worse and sometimes flash some darker horizontal bars if I move to fast or bump the unit a bit as well.Thanks for any info!

author: encryptededdy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 11:13:28 am
content: That looks normal for low temperature ranges.

author: Adonlude
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 07:18:41 pm
content: OK thanks. All the horizontal line flicker looked like video noise to me. Was worried there might be something wrong with the video circuitry.

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2016, 11:47:21 pm
content: Yes, looks normal. It is low frequency sensor bias or ADC supply noise showing through on the video. If you stretch out the temperature span too far it becomes visible.Can you measure it as a temperature equivalent ? You may find it is around 50mK, the same order as the sensor neTdregardsBill
Therm-App 19mm lens for sale - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: nishul
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 24, 2016, 05:17:11 am
content: Sorry, if this is not the right place to post this, but I have a 19mm lens that came with Therm-App for sale. I bought a 13mm lens and was thinking to keep both the lens, however I am short of money to pay my tuition next semester. I am planning to sell it for $200 shipped in US.Please see the attached picture of the lens. I will use the packaging that 13mm lens came in for shipping.Thanks for reading,Nishul
Looking for narrow lwir lens for flir one camera - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: grrrrrrr
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 31, 2016, 11:22:57 pm
content: I am looking for a narrow lens with infinity focus for lwir flir lepton sensor . The lenses from umicore used on the therm app looks promising but out of my budget. Any diy solution? are some software out there to calculate the right optic? does the new optic can be just mounted front or does the original optic have to be removed? thanks

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2016, 12:55:04 pm
content: You are looking at having to replace the lens, a lot of what is discussed here is producing close-up adaptors.At a simple level the lens requirements are just a bit of maths. You can assume that it is a 'simple' lens and when focused at infinity the 'simple' lens must be at its' focal length from the sensor image plane.The horizontal width of the sensor is px * pitchpx = horizontal pixelspitch = pitch of pixelsThe distance centre to edge of image for the lens is FL* TAN(HFOV/2) which must be (px*pitch) / 2FL = focal lengthHFOV = horizontal field of viewThen just rearrange the maths as necessary. A good test case is that a 320@25um sensor needs a 9mm lens for 50° field of view. You can scale from that scenario if you prefer.Things are not quite this simple in reality but will give you a good start. your most likely problem is if you are going to resolve down to the small pixels, and what distortions you get off axis. It means that a single element lens or a lens from a much older camera may not be up to it. I have a few 15mm f/1 assemblies if you want to try, but those were designed for 50um pitch 320 sensors.You can hit Wikipedia to read up on 'circle of confusion' and 'diffraction limited optics'.regardsBillwww.fire-tics.co.uk
Recommendation For An Easy To Use Thermal Camera? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Yemen4u2
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 03:55:32 pm
content: I'm trying to use thermal cameras to do occupancy detection and height measurement. I was working with a FLIR Lepton Camera module, but it keeps crashing on me and I either get a red screen or a black screen with a red box.I'm running out of time and really need some help so if someone, anyone on here could please give me a recommendation on an easy to use thermal camera (maybe something with USB that I can just plug in) I would be really grateful.

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2016, 07:59:33 pm
content: Do you have a budget?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2016, 08:50:42 pm
content: For 'just plug in' you are really suggesting a video out camera. From your comments it is the 'just USB' that is your problem as that then involves computers and they dislike what is plugged into them and then crash. Thermal cameras do not crash, thermally sensitive plug in dongles do.Billwww.fire-tics.co.uk

author: Platonas
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 16, 2016, 02:55:57 pm
content: Hello,I have an almost similar question.I am considering the Flir E4 at €999 or the ThermalExpert Q1 Plus with an extra 13mm Lens at the same price as E4.What is your opinion people. I also consider the Hack for the E4 in order to "upgrade" it.Thanks in advance.

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 16, 2016, 06:13:07 pm
content: Quote from: Platonas on August 16, 2016, 02:55:57 pmTE Q1 Plus already comes with 13mm f/1.0 lens so you probably meant additional 6.3mm lens?So Flir F4 converted to E8+ or TE Q1 with a pair of lens..Flir E4:+ convenience; you can just grab it and shoot at any time; no need for attaching it to the smartphone+ easier to use because of hardware buttons+ no need for the latest android smartphone+ you can use Flir software for analysing images+ robust+ trustworthy measurementsTE Q1:+ better (cleaner) images (especially with f/1.0 lens)+ smaller package; easier to carry around+ exchangeable lens+ SDK (for Android, Windows and Linux available on request)- software (android and windows) is still in early beta (IMHO)...- more delicate hardware even though build quality is really good- less reliable measurements (T.E. sometimes shows humans at 40*C and sometimes at 37*C)I bought TE Plus because I will treasure it with my lifeand I prefer image quality over robustness of the device.If I would need something for field work I would probably chose E4 (or not).
[UK] "Cheap" T440bx from Alpine - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: kaz911
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 25, 2016, 10:17:55 am
content: Alpine has a very discounted T440bx out in their mail today GBP 2000'ish plus VAT -FLIR T440bxProduct Datasheet:http://www.alpine-components.co.uk/files/products/FLIR-T440.pdfCondition: AverageWarranty: NoneCalibration: NoneNormal Price: £8,354.00Ex-Demo Price (save 75%): £2,088.50For what you get I think that seems like a very ok price. I'm tempted but not in my budgetContact : Jonathan HillAlpine Components LtdAddress: Innovation Centre, Highfield Drive, Churchfields, St. Leonards-on-Sea, TN38 9UH, United KingdomTelephone: 01424 858118Website:www.alpine-components.co.uki'm not affiliated - but just thought I'd pass it on.

author: frenky
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 25, 2016, 11:15:55 am
content: Nice. I looks like a professional DSLR camera.
Thermix, an surveillance/detection App for iPhones :O - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: in.Vitro
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2016, 03:10:47 pm
content: After surfing around in the AppStore I found "Thermix" and I was impressed! :OYou guys know, that its hard to write an App for the damn iPhone (unless you are a smart developer....yes, I'm not one of that kind) and IMHO its a nice way to protect, for example your Store (or whatever).I think its a neat way to get an affordable thermal security camera. The FLIR TCX Series cost much more than that.Unfortunately FLIR dont get managed to charge the Phone/iPod and the FLIR One at the same time. I hope they fix that issue asap!Http://appstore.com/thermixforflirone
Flir e40 firmware download issue - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: desiraros
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 26, 2016, 09:29:28 am
content: Hi,Can some one help me out?I own a Flir E40 Exx series, which was making a firmware software download.My computer crashed and had to be reset. now from Flir tools trying to re perform firmware update, an error stating camera not being recognised by software.and when switching On camera, loading bar will get stuck and camera functions are not available.is there any option what I can do to reset/reload last firmware version so I can begin to use it again.Thanks

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 26, 2016, 12:16:07 pm
content: there are different Exx versions with different methods for manual firmware updates:old FLIR Exx P/N:490xx (2.23.14) Update Packhttp://support.flir.com/SwDownload/app/RssSWDownload.aspx?ID=127Exx Late 2013:FLIR Exx P/N:645xx / 646xx (4.10.0) Update Packhttp://support.flir.com/SwDownload/app/RssSWDownload.aspx?ID=194

author: desiraros
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 26, 2016, 01:44:49 pm
content: manual firmware update can not be done as camera settings needs to be accessed.

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 26, 2016, 05:27:53 pm
content: I know.But you doesn't tell us, which hardware version do you have.If we know more, then we can check your current usb mode (RNDIS)

author: desiraros
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 27, 2016, 05:14:59 am
content: Hi Thomas,Thanks for trying to help meI have Flir Exx p/n:490xx (2.23.14).is the 490xx hardware version?
New Flir E4 $757 shipped 5/19/16 ONLY - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: GlowingGhoul
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 19, 2016, 03:49:17 pm
content: www.zoro.com25% off coupon code BLOSSOMI did post this coupon in the For Sale section, but the great price on the E4 is why it caught my attention so I thought others might benefit from it here.
Question about FFF header - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ben321
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2016, 11:27:01 pm
content: I was looking at the official spec just now, and was wondering about this one field for the FFF file's main header.Code:typedef struct tagFLIRFILEHEAD{char szFormatID;char szOrigin;unsigned long dwVersion;unsigned long dwIndexOff;unsigned long dwNumUsedIndex;unsigned long dwNextID;unsigned short usSwapPattern;unsigned short Spare;unsigned long reserved;unsigned long dwChecksum;} FLIRFILEHEAD;I was wondering what the usSwapPattern field in the header was for. Does that have something to do with whether the file uses BigEndian or LittleEndian byte order? I was wondering, because to use a bigendian multi-byte value on a littleendian system (or visa versa), you need to swap the bytes.

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2016, 09:56:45 am
content: I think, you know my post here with a full fff.h header:http://u88.n24.queensu.ca/exiftool/forum/index.php/topic,6763.0.htmlCode:typedef struct tagFLIRFILEHEAD{...unsigned short usSwapPattern;/* Swap pattern (0=MSBF) 2 38 */...} FLIRFILEHEAD;withCode:LSBF = little-endianMSBF = big-endiansome more informations you see inside the exiftool code:http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/EXIFTOOL/Image-ExifTool-10.15/lib/Image/ExifTool/FLIR.pm
Mikron Thermal Imaging Cameras - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: thermalimagingguru
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 14, 2016, 07:23:07 pm
content: I have 3 thermal imaging cameras from Mikron that I am looking to sell. They are:1. Mikron M7640 640x480 thermal imaging camera - excellent condition2. Mikron M7600 320x240 thermal imaging camera - very good condition3. Mikron Mikroshot 160x120 thermal imaging camera - brand newIf interested, please let me know. I have been a long time user of Mikron and find them reliable.Thanks!

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2016, 03:18:43 pm
content: For the benefit of potential buyers, many (all?) of the Mikron thermal cameras are in fact the very high quality products of NEC AVIO, Japan. NEC AVIO make superb professional use cameras that are the equals of FLIRs similar offerings. I own several NEC AVIO and Mikron thermal cameras. Mikron just rebadge them as their products to suit their specialist consumer base.I own four of the diminutive Mikron Mikroshot compact thermal cameras. Very neat and with manual focus to a decent close-up distance. The lens may also be set for focus free use of more distant objects such as buildings and roofs etc.If I had the cash I would pursue the first two cameras but sadly they are out of my financial reach since retiring. Good cameras though. They are industrial grade so do not compare the. Or their cost to the likes of the FLIR Ex, Exx series etc. Completely different realms.Fraser

author: ixfd64
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2016, 09:57:48 pm
content: There's an InterNACHI user who had a bad experience, although that was several years ago:https://nachi.org/forum/f58/infrared-camera-40319/#post522782Just putting that out there.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2016, 10:17:15 pm
content: The reference to the flip up screen makes me think it's the gun shaped model. I never did like the look of it.... Cheap and plasticky comes to mind.The NEC AVIO cameras that I have were also available under the Mikron brand and are made in Japan with Boeing microbolometers. I still prefer my FLIR PM5xx and 6xx series cameras though.Fraser
Two Flir E4's stopped communicating and charging via the USB - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: g137556s
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2016, 08:05:52 pm
content: I have 2 E4's (Upgraded), one for me and one for my son. Yesterday, my son stated that his E4 would not charge. So I gave him my battery pack sohe could use it. Then, he told me that he could not communicate with his e4 from the laptop he was using. SO I plugged mine in. I received an error message from the laptop stating something about the driver. Then noticed that MY E4 was not charging. Now, neither E4's will charge or communicate with anything via USB. I have tried different cables, computers, etc. Rebooted everything. Still nothing. Any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated because I know that if I send them back to Flir, it will cost a lot for repair, regardless how simple the problem.Thanks in advance!

author: encryptededdy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 07, 2016, 12:17:38 am
content: Have you tried a USB wall charger?

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 07, 2016, 01:27:15 am
content: E4 works poorly with computer USB charging, use the wall charger that came with the camera.

author: g137556s
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 07, 2016, 03:39:33 pm
content: Yes, I tried several wall chargers, three different computers as well. Looks like the usb interface is down. Will not charge or communicate on either E4.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 07, 2016, 03:49:32 pm
content: So you use the supplied wall charger, do you see battery charge level going to full charge? If so, then you connect the camera to a computer with Flir software installed, what happens? What exact error you get?

author: g137556s
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2016, 03:57:51 am
content: No, unfortunately it will not charge or communicate via USB. I can charge the battery in the desktop charger, but nothing via USB

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2016, 10:26:54 am
content: Unusual that two cameras should fail. I would normally suspect the micro USB cable first and then the cameras micro USB connector.It is possible to damage a micro USB socket if a damaged plug is pushed into it. Have a close look at the sockets on the cameras to see if anything looks out of place.There is also the possibility of socket to PCB connection failure as is common on mobile phones. Sadly mechanical failure is often considered to be user abuse and so a chargeable repair.Fraser

author: g137556s
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2016, 11:36:43 am
content: I took one apart hoping to find a blown component ot loose connector. But everything appeared correct. So I put it back together and sent it in to Flir. I will wait and see what they say. I am pretty certain that it will be the standard $700 to fix it since most all of the electronics are on the main board.
Thermal imaging to catch cycling cheats - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: DenzilPenberthy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2016, 12:13:14 pm
content: It seem to be becoming more clear that secret hidden motors are a thing which is happening in pro cycling. Interesting use here of TI to spot suspicious hot areas on bike frames during races...http://fittish.deadspin.com/secret-thermal-camera-footage-allegedly-shows-seven-pro-1771492666

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 20, 2016, 02:53:10 pm
content: Seems like it would be really easy to institute random x-rays of equipment. Combine that with an appropriate penalty (one year ban from racing for example), and the problem should go away. Cycling is a strange sport. Cheating seems widespread, and enforcement somewhat haphazard and arbitrary.

author: charlespax
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 10:23:57 am
content: I wonder if the heat output would be as bad if they were using super caps.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2016, 11:19:56 am
content: So just as crooked as soccer then, but the cheating is more hidden from view. Seems like they should simply have a few ex TSA luggage scanners at each event for all bikes to go through, right after the end, with the monitor output on public display for everyone to see. Or expect to see a lot of reporters at the finish line with thermal cameras as part of the camera gear.
Fluke Ti32/TiR32 Power Supply AC or DC? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Po6ept
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:28:53 pm
content: Any Ti32 or TiR32 owners out there? I need to know if the AC power supply is 15V AC or 15V DC.Thank you.Edit: It is 15V DC if anyone else needs to know.
Interesting uses for mobile, discrete thermal imaging? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: nidlaX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 07, 2016, 08:07:41 pm
content: I just came across this blog post by Terence Eden:https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2016/03/the-future-is-about-to-get-weird/, which makes me think back to the discussion about the merit and practicality of the new Caterpillar smartphone. Although it's questionable whether the lepton has enough resolution / dynamic range to allow you to accurately gauge a person's body temperature distribution from a distance, I can't help but think that FLIR is ahead of the curve with the cost-cutting smartphone, drone, and security camera developments.Any other ideas / thoughts on using miniaturized thermal imaging outside of the traditional engineering / surveillance applications?

author: mhosier
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 10, 2016, 09:04:51 am
content: Not an area that I have personal experience of, but I know that some vets make use of thermal imaging in diagnosis of injuries. It seems to be particularly popular in equine applications (presumably because the cost is economically justifiable in the contest of the treatment costs).Medically, similar applications exist and there has been some work on the use of thermal images for breast cancer screening, although it is not regarded as an conclusive method of diagnosis at this stage.

author: efahrenholz
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 11, 2016, 12:46:18 am
content: Thermal imaging for medical use is not a new use case. It is well known that infections show increased levels of thermal activity. This also allows you to see the vascular pathways, which could hint at blood infections. As far as diagnosing breast cancer, this is unreliable by itself but could be combined with several other techniques to confirm or deny a positive indication of cancer. Hotspots just under the skin in breast tissue could be just about anything.
Mikron camera on ebay.com - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2016, 09:07:42 pm
content: I have been fighting myself all day to not buy this Mikron thermal camera. It looks like the Mikron 7800 which is 320 x 240 pixels and 60fps frame rate. To me it is a bargain at $500 as it originally cost $20K. I would buy it if it were not for the postage and VAT that pushes the cost up to £500 for me in the UK.http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mikron-infrared-thermal-camera-/111998660174The seller ships internationally.UPDATE..... The seller has now added the model number. This camera is 160 x120 resolution and NOT 320 X 240. He has also removed the international shipping optionFraser

author: ivaylo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2016, 07:27:35 am
content: Datasheet says 160x120 -http://infraredsales.com/pdf%20fies/M7816_datasheet.pdf?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2016, 08:41:03 am
content: Is it that model though ? Worth asking the seller for exact model as it is also available as 320 X 240 resolution.http://www.infraredsys.com/PDF/Mikron7800datasheet.pdfUPDATE..... Ah I see the seller has changed the title to state 7816 now so it is indeed a 160 X 120 resolution model. Still not bad value but sadly not the excellent deal that the 320 X 240 model would have been.Fraser

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 24, 2016, 08:48:39 am
content: Quote from: Fraser on May 24, 2016, 08:41:03 amListing title says 7816

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2016, 09:24:02 am
content: Also now updated to say shipment to US only. Perhaps had a call from the DoC, as that really should not ship out of the USBill

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2016, 09:35:24 am
content: Oh dear,This turned out to be an awful posting by me. Sorry folks, I will refrain from repeating this mistake and not highlight such listings. The seller provided poor initial detail and then changed the listing. Not great.Fraser

author: ivaylo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2016, 05:54:04 pm
content: Quote from: Fraser on May 24, 2016, 09:35:24 amNah, it was educational. I've never heard of Mikron infrared cams before...

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 24, 2016, 09:31:25 pm
content: Mikron is a brand owned by NEC. Take a look at NEC AVIO cameras, I own a few and love them. They use various microbolometer sensor arrays but mine are all from Boeing. This 7800 series unit is less attractive to my eye. I prefer the camcorder format like my FLIR PM695 etc.
Flir One G2 Questions - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: mangler
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 28, 2016, 05:13:33 pm
content: Contemplating purchasing the Flir One G2 (android), but a few things are still holding me back.1 Is anyone running the Flir One G2 with a permanently attached usb battery booster? I have read the G2 will function when plugged in, but recent reports of overheating have me concerned this may not be ideal as a long term solution. The current 350MaH battery is quite bad, and there are already reports of early failures. I want to make sure if the battery goes bad early, I can still use the device and use the internal battery as a "regulator" only.2 Is the Flir One official android app the only compatible application for the Flir One G2. I see Frenky has been working wonders with the seek, with a windows app, but I can't find anything else on the android store that is compatible with the G2. I'd even be willing to get a windows phone if there was a windows app that would restore the full sensor resolution and give us tailorable temperature ranges.Thanks!

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2016, 08:17:26 am
content: 1. I haven't no problems to run the F1G2 permanently powered over USB. But I think, this kills the internal battery after some times.2. Use the SDK and write your own F1G2 app. I posted in this forum some tricks, to defeat the crop factor in the app.There are some activities around the windows phonehttp://developer.flir.com/forums/topic/runnign-the-flir-one-on-a-windows-x86-tablet/Quote

author: mangler
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 02, 2016, 02:44:44 am
content: Thanks Tomas.I am hoping that by connecting just a battery bank to the Flir One G2 (vs a charger/usb port), the voltage will be lower and it will not overheat the battery as much. Unfortunately I am not a programer. But I would purchase an app if it fixed the few things that are not quite right with the official flir app (no option to set a fixed temperature scale, cropped sensor resolution etc.).Interesting about the windows phone version. At least there seems to be some movement. Could not find any file to try out though. Maybe I am not looking in the right place?

author: Ben321
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2016, 05:59:57 am
content: Quote from: tomas123 on March 31, 2016, 08:17:26 amIs there a way to hack the standard FLIR One app for Android? Is there a settings file (similar to a Windows INI file) that I can edit to remove the crop factor in the app?

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2016, 10:11:12 pm
content: No, it's part of code.
Will the 160x120 Lepton ever be sold? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ben321
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2016, 07:05:06 pm
content: I mean will it ever be sold as a standalone component? Or will it always be kept proprietary for FLIR's own use in their own devices (such as the FLIR One), while only selling to the public the older 80x60 Lepton (in order to make sure that their company has a distinct advantage over all competition)?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2016, 04:00:14 pm
content: Ben,You ask a question that only FLIR can answer.Logically FLIR will wish to get as great a return on the LEPTON cores as is possible. There are development costs to recover first.FLIR are having difficulty meeting the customer demand for the FLIR ONE Gen 2 camera and this could be for any number of reasons, but one could be core production capacity. If they cannot meet their own production needs it is unlikely that they would sell precious LEPTON 3 core stock to third parties at this time.There is no significant reason why FLIR would withhold the LEPTON 3 from OEM's once they have the production capacity to meet the markets needs. As to selling to the general public..... well that may or may not happen. It is a sad fact that selling directly to the public can be a royal pain in the derriere. The overheads for taking orders are high and the support team get inundated with questions from people who quite frankly do not know what they are doing. This is a generalism I know but I was friends with DATONG UK and heard their horror stories about dealing with the general public. FLIR can sell through the likes of Mouser and Digikey, but they are still exposed the the disproportionately high level of questions coming into the support team when compared to selling professional cameras or built 'turn key' consumer cameras.Will FLIR make the LEPTON 3 be deployed in 3rd party OEM devices ? almost certainly. Will they sell it to the public direct or via Agents ? .... Hmm that depends upon their experience with sales of the LEPTON 2.Before I get flamed for tarring all general public purchasers with the same brush.... I know that many buyers will know what they are doing, but there will be an equal or greater number who do not, and who need 'hand holding'.Fraser
PHP FILES OF FLIR AX8 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: zirius666
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 31, 2016, 06:52:40 pm
content: Hello to everybody .I have a little short question.I want to make a custom interface for view 4 cameras on one page.but i need modify one php of the integrated interface of the camera? Anybody knows how i can enter to that php files?Is all what i need thanks so much
Question about FLIR Tools mobile compatability - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ben321
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2016, 04:50:46 am
content: Is the Android app version of FLIR Tools supposed to allow control of the FLIR One thermal imager? I notice there's a way to connect to FLIR cameras from within the app, but my FLIR One device doesn't show up in the camera list in the app. Isn't it supposed to?

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2016, 07:59:34 am
content: You need the Flir One App for taking the images:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flir.flironeThen you can open the images in Flir Tools Mobile:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flir.viewer
Where are all the FLIR One for Android apps? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ben321
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 27, 2016, 09:49:57 pm
content: There's obviously the main one from FLIR, but unlike the iOS FLIR One, which has a ton of apps, the Android FLIR One has only one app (at least only one on the official website) http://flir.com/flirone/display/?id=69356 which is called Comfort Tracker. At least this is the only "FLIR approved" 3rd party app. Are there any others out there, where people have posted the APKs up for download on their own personal website? I have searched with Google, and can't find any. Maybe you guys here at eevblog.com will know of some places I can get some apps for the FLIR One for Android, that haven't yet been officially approved by FLIR. I know that there is a FLIR One SDK, and I've heard it's free, so I'm surprised that it's so hard to find some apps that use the FLIR One for Android.

author: Ben321
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2016, 05:06:56 am
content: Are there any other apps at all for the FLIR One for Android? Even any APKs of experimental apps that people have made with the FLIR One SDK? If so, please let me know where to find them. Thanks.

author: tomas123
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2016, 07:54:25 am
content: Hi Ben321,I collect all interesting activities in this forum around the Flir One in this link list:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-one-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown-and-hacks/There you found some software experiments...
flir python library - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: waspinator
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2016, 06:56:08 pm
content: I was given a Flir Tau 2 640, and I'd like to capture images with it using python. Do I need to use their SDK? Does anyone have any experience interfacing Flir.I found a project on github that seems to have the same goal, but I'm not sure if it's actually ready to use.https://github.com/lamphej/pyFLIRThanks

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2016, 01:05:41 pm
content: The Tau2 640 radiometric thermal imaging camera (I'm assuming it's 25/30Hz model), has an inbuilt buffer that allows you to capture up to 20 images, however as it stands, you cannot capture radiometric images without a special camera link breakout board and the SDK, which will set you back about $2500. We've got the same problem with our Tau2 640 and we don't really want to give FLIR any more of our money, for a product which should be usable out of the box!

author: waspinator
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2016, 07:13:33 pm
content: so theFLIR Tau VPC Modulewith the analog coaxial and mini USB port, can only capture analog data? Is the USB port only for configuration, without the ability to transfer digital image data?I'm not a fan ofcamera link, so I'd like to avoid that if possible.How are you getting data out of it right now? Just analog?It seems that analog output is only meant for visualization. Can't get actual temperatures from it.http://www.flir.com/cvs/cores/knowledgebase/index.cfm?CFTREEITEMKEY=354&view=63107I only need to capture temperature data at 0.5-1fps, but I hoped to use the USB port to do so.

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2016, 12:24:32 pm
content: Quote from: waspinator on March 12, 2016, 07:13:33 pmYou can get very limited data out of it. You have the ability to save a non-radiometric 8-Bit jpeg or 14-Bit Tiff. It is also possible to download some RAW temperature values in csv format, however it takes about 2 minutes or greater, to do so.If you want any digital data, you will need a camera link or 3rd party module. Even then, not all of them can do it!
FLIR LEPTON 2 cores on eBay UK at the moment  £80 (New) - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2016, 10:04:44 pm
content: I just stumbled upon someone selling a load of FLIR LEPTON 2 cores on eBay UK. It has an FOV of 50 Degrees. No integral FFC shutter though.The seller is asking £80 each for these units and describes them as new.http://www.ebay.com/itm/272155608895?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AITI have no connection with the seller.Fraser

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2016, 11:13:50 pm
content: What makes you think they are Lepton 2's ?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2016, 11:20:41 pm
content: MikeNeither LEPTON 1 nor 3 are available retailLEPTON 1 - Prototype only. Not releasedLEPTON 2 - 80 X 60 pixel. Used in FLIR One first. Available retail.LEPTON 3 - 160 X 120 pixel. Used in FLIR One Generation 2 first. Not available retailThe seller is offering 80x60 LEPTON 2's.Fraser

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2016, 11:28:07 pm
content: Am I getting senile - what was the Lepton 1?My guess is these are harvested from old Mk.1 Flir Ones

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2016, 11:48:19 pm
content: FLIR never released the LEPTON 1. Their first public release was LEPTON 2. I have no tech spec on the LEPTON 1 sadly. It would not be unusual to name the prototype as the LEPTON 1 though.Maybe harvested units as you say, he sure has a lot of them though. Defunct project maybe ? He claims they are new.Fraser

author: casinada
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2016, 04:17:52 pm
content: http://www.em.avnet.com/en-us/design/featuredpromotions/Pages/FLIR-Thermal-Imaging-Breakout-Board.aspx?cmp=na-152-flr-ds-201603&ed2f26df2d9c416fbddddd2330a778c6=hekyppsykb-hjkeewa$39.99

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2016, 05:50:37 pm
content: Quote from: casinada on March 17, 2016, 04:17:52 pmExcluding sensor

author: OrBy
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 17, 2016, 09:31:43 pm
content: I asked for more detail from the seller and got the following reply:New message from: branchco06 (322Turquoise Star)lepton 2 80 by 60I also came across the PureThermal 1 fromhttps://groupgets.com/manufacturers/getlab/products/purethermal-1-flir-lepton-smart-i-o-module- anyone use one of these - seems like a fairly plug and play solution.
Question about night vision? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: dds737
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2016, 02:18:06 pm
content: Could we ask questions about night vision equipment too here?Thanks.

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2016, 04:29:20 pm
content: Different technology, but a lot of people who frequent this topic will know something about it.

author: efahrenholz
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2016, 05:57:40 pm
content: If you can't find any information here, go to nightvisionforums.comI used to frequent there, similar setup to this site. Lots of solid info. CJ7Hawk and Stanley over there are the resident experts. I know quite a bit so I'll offer to help as I can.

author: dds737
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2016, 06:09:38 pm
content: Quote from: efahrenholz on March 12, 2016, 05:57:40 pmThat's exceptional good board, lot of good infos, signed up, but I've never got account, found there basic information about my MEL DC1034 :-)Quote

author: dds737
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2016, 06:12:08 pm
content: Quote from: CatalinaWOW on March 12, 2016, 04:29:20 pmSure, I supposed that, that's why I asked here, I wasn't prepared to get flamed for posting some questions about 2nd generation passive IC device in the strictly speaking "Thermal Imaging" department

author: dds737
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2016, 06:22:07 pm
content: Anyway I will fire few questions:Quote1. How many hours this tube has lifespan - it's inside MEL DC1034 night vision device or how many hours typically 2nd generation tube has lifespan?2. Why I am getting bad picture when I see different bird species on local lake, and few hundred meters objects are much clearer?
Flir i60 Firmware Update - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: robert_
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2016, 05:49:02 pm
content: Hi,im trying to update the firmware on an old i60 with V1.21 installed, as it does have a lot of annoying bugs (ie camera hangs when trying to save an image with "Area Maximum" measurement active) and i hope there will be some improvements (and some refreshing, new bugs instead of the year-old ones i have now).I tried V 2.19.1 (which fails with a checksum error), according to Flir FAQ im supposed to install 2.17.1 first, which also fails, this time with the attached message. I did triple-check the integrity of the file on the SD card, which is okay.Any ideas?Flir told us that camera is "long out of support" and we should buy a new one. Actually thats the same they told us when we wanted new battery packs, so i had to make them myself already.

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2016, 01:54:16 pm
content: Are there any other versions of the firmware available? Perhaps try that first?Failing that, I have a backup of the files from my i50 which I upgraded to an i60, so they may be of use. I cannot remember what version of firmware it was however.

author: robert_
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2016, 06:39:24 pm
content: Couldnt find much related to the ixx series, at least no other fw version anywhere.It would be good if there was some kind of changelog to see if it would actually fix some of the bugs i have...I dont know why some companies known for really expensive products like Flir ot Tek have so bad customer support. They could afford it for sure.

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 08, 2016, 01:09:26 pm
content: HelloI've located my full backup I made of my old i50. You can download it all here:https://www.dropbox.com/s/3rkqn68ntigub7r/FLIR%20i50.zip?dl=0Perhaps replacing some of the files may help stabilise the camera, but please be aware this could brick your camera and that I cannot be held responsible!

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2016, 04:19:38 pm
content: Quote from: robert_ on January 29, 2016, 05:49:02 pmAny luck?

author: robert_
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2016, 06:02:58 pm
content: Not really.Im trying not to brick it yet...Also i start to have some doubts wether any firmware upgrade from FLIR ever fixed any bug. It only ever seems to introduce new ones...
How is FLIR One limited to only -4 to +248 DegF? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ben321
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2016, 10:24:41 pm
content: Is this limiting done in the FLIR One app itself (so that one could easily write their own app to get around this limit)? Or is it something in the hardware? If it is in the hardware, is it a limitation of the Lepton chip itself, or is it something programmed in the firmware (and thus possibly hackable)?

author: uncle_bob
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 08, 2016, 02:17:35 am
content: HiIf it's like the camera's we have, it's a limitation of the imaging chip. Noise limits you on the cold end, overload limits you on the hot end. (no that's not the whole story, but it's close enough).Bob

author: Ben321
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2016, 05:29:11 am
content: Quote from: uncle_bob on March 08, 2016, 02:17:35 amTypical thermal imager chips can go up to at least 600 DegF and down to something like -25 DegF. I was thinking they intentionally "crippled" the device, by implementing (either in the firmware, or in the official app) a value clipping/clamping function, which artificially causes it to top out at 248 DegF and bottom out at -4 DegF in the FLIR One, in order to make it intentionally not suitable for industrial/commercial use. And by doing so, FLIR forces people who need it for industrial/commercial usage to buy a more expensive product. If this is the case, then a mod (either as a firmware hack, or using the SDK to write your own non-crippled app) should be able to extend the device's apparent range to include all of the device's actual range.

author: efahrenholz
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2016, 09:05:44 am
content: The reason a thermal range exists at all is due to calibration. The sensor might be able to detect higher temperatures, but because it can not be calibrated accurate past a certain point, FLIR clamps the range. The sensor is uncooled, which means that it heats up. The pixel size is getting smaller, and means it saturates quickly. Also, many newer FLIR sensors don't use a shutter. To overcome this, the sensor takes movement of the scene and calculates the noise to subtract out.So ultimately, what does all this mean? Little nuances here and there tend to throw off the accuracy of the sensor beyond certain guaranteed limits. At 60C, the error could be as little as 0.2C. However, at 300C, the error could be as large as 5-10C. When a specific application requires knowing when a temperature is hit, being off by 10C could have consequences. This is a tool designed to give somewhat accurate measurements of temperature. Imagine a calculator that can't give an accurate sum after 1000. What if it reported 1000 + 1000 = 2050. That's terribly inaccurate. If you added 2050 to say 1000, the error compounds further.I hope this helps a little. Just because the sensor is capable of reporting a higher and wildly inaccurate range is why FLIR clamps it.
Deleted as a better post will follow - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2016, 07:05:38 pm
content: I deleted this post as it was premature. I have a pile of incomplete Dewalt DCT 416 cameras en route to me.I will generate a post detailing them and a teardown when they arrive.There may be some fun aheadFraser

author: Andy Watson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2016, 10:09:08 pm
content: Enigmatic!

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2016, 10:15:12 pm
content: Quote from: Fraser on March 04, 2016, 07:05:38 pmI was following it (the thread), and a bit worried for you.I'm wondering how big 50 boxed up loads of these things are going to be. Will you be able to fit them all in.I hope you have NOT bought too many ?Were/are you hoping to make money from them, or something ?

author: elgonzo
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2016, 10:18:51 pm
content: ................................ ................. ................................... ................................... .......................

author: ChunkyPastaSauce
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 04, 2016, 10:24:49 pm
content: .

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2016, 10:25:28 pm
content: Quote from: elgonzo on March 04, 2016, 10:18:51 pmThe OP posted lots of pictures and details, of his (apparently), low priced ebay bargain(s). (If I have got the right thread).They are very interesting devices. If you are really lucky, you "might" have different parts, to make complete units. Maybe ?I fancied some of the ST MCUs myself, as they could be flash, and so reusable.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 04, 2016, 10:37:31 pm
content: New post will follow when I have the units. Presently in discussion on the cameras and decided to not say too much at this point in time. This purchase has got very interestingFraser
Seek compact or compact XR - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: fitch
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2016, 10:12:40 pm
content: Anyone with a Seek compact or compact XR: I want to get one for use in looking for hot spots on PCBs. Most of the boards I deal with are on the order of 12 in x 18 in, but I have had to deal with boards as large as 24 in x 14 in. Attractive in most other regards, I fear the XR version would not work well for boards this large as I would have to be far away from the board to measure it. Any comments regarding which version would be most appropriate?Is there any difference in how close these two can focus?Thanks!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk