Is rigol 1104Z hackeable ? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: dssence
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 01:13:41 am
content: Hi I was going to buy this scope here in my country, and just wanted to double check, the rigol hack site with the key generator works with this model. I know for the 1104Z Plus does not as it shares a different logic board.. but just wanted to ask for sureThanks

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 01:31:02 am
content: Yes, it's hackable, although all options are included for free now so you don't need to.Why would you buy the 1104Z when the 1054Z is cheaper and it's the same thing?

author: dssence
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 02:47:14 am
content: Well to be honest I live in argentina, and the local provider only has 1104Z in stock for inmediate delivery other way round I would have to wait around 60 days for 1054Z . And the price it's not that much I will be paying around 400 U$s. Situation here in argentina is getting worse every day so time is precious right now. That's why I thought I would buy it if it was still hackeable. How could I double check if it's got all decoding protocls enabled? if that wasn't the case I still could unlock all options with that rigol site? . thanks

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 02:57:31 am
content: Yes, had a chance to use both 1054Z and 1104Z on my bench.

author: MarkF
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 03:54:27 am
content: Quote from: dssence on September 21, 2020, 02:47:14 am

author: dssence
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 04:23:01 am
content: Excellent so all options come be default enabledthat's good !!

author: Adrian_Arg.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 12:04:49 pm
content: One question, they have already corrected the 24Mbit error and when capturing at 500 milliseconds and other scales.

author: dssence
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 02:10:32 pm
content: Change of plans my local provider only has DS1104Z plus which comes with logic analizer module. Is it a good option? this one is a whole different family from ds1000 series It shares with MS I think. Just want to be sure not to throw money away to the garbage. They're leaving me at same price as ds1054z with all decoding protocols enabled.

author: MarkF
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 02:35:56 pm
content: Quote from: dssence on September 21, 2020, 02:10:32 pmIt's just as good as the old DS1104Z (without Plus).But, it is harder to get the private key and hack.There is a procedure on the forum; but, you will need to search for it.The procedure was mentioned lately here. I just can't remember where it was.If all options are enabled, go for it.

author: aristarchus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 02:44:00 pm
content: Quote from: dssence on September 21, 2020, 02:10:32 pmGot it for more than three years now, (even purchased the addon LA kit) from what I know nowadays Rigol is giving all DS1K models with all options enabled so you do not need to do any hacking.If that is the deal that your provider is offering to you but at the price of a ds1054z, if it is a new/non-used unit then get it.

author: dssence
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2020, 02:55:38 pm
content: Quote from: aristarchus on September 21, 2020, 02:44:00 pmYes that's what my local provider said, all options are enabled by default. I'm trusting what they said. could it be possible? I mean latest units on 1104zPlus shipped with options enabled decoding etc. What worries me is as this unit has logic analyzer integrated that might have any issues with scope functions or issues. But all ppls experience in here.. seems the unit is good without any flaws.

author: dssence
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 01:13:33 am
content: I still have one doubt , my local provider said it was full unlocked with all options. Does 1104Z plus have memory depth 24 Mpts enabled by default ? or it needs a hardware expansion. Just want to double check that.thanks

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 01:49:29 am
content: Quote from: dssence on September 21, 2020, 02:10:32 pmIf it's 100Mhz and all options enabled then no problem. Get that one. It's basically the same 'scope.Will you get the cables for the logic analyzer at that price? They're, like, $300.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 03:31:20 am
content: Quote from: dssence on September 22, 2020, 01:13:33 amYou should consider the value of "local" provider is better than import, in case of hardware trouble and claiming warranty.A fellow Argentinian share his nightmare on his imported 1054Z, long discussion thread ->https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/rigol-ds1054z-109465/

author: Adrian_Arg.
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2020, 01:51:16 pm
content: Quote from: BravoV on September 22, 2020, 03:31:20 amWhat BravoV says is correct, tequipament I refer to rigol china, I don't remember how long until rigol became interested in my case capable of a month, then it is true they helped me to solve the problem, today like all the users of the DS1000Z series , capture problem 24Mbit deep and 500m / s time, waiting for firmware to correct it. That is, if I am satisfied with the operation of the equipment, more than two years ago that small problem never reappeared.in spanishes correcto lo que comenta BravoV, tequipament me derivo a rigol china, no me acuerdo cuanto tiempo hasta que rigol se intereso en mi caso capaz un mes, luego es cierto me ayudaron a solucionar el problema, hoy como todos los usuario de la serie DS1000Z, problema de captura de 24Mbit de profundidad y 500m/s de tiempo, esperando firmware que lo corrija. Eso si estoy conforme con el funcionamiento del equipo, hace mas de dos años de ese pequeño problema nunca mas volvio a aparecer.

author: dssence
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2020, 08:26:54 pm
content: Well I finally got my new toy , but there's something i'm worried about. The 1Khz calibration wave , when I try to compensate the probe. The edges are not perfectly squared. Is this a problem with the scope?. I'm attaching a picture so you can see. Hope it's not a problem with the scope. Later I will add a link for a video so you can see more clearly. I already did self calibration , changed to dots instead of vector.youtube video linkhttps://youtu.be/fQ4RcmP_NxM

author: Gandalf_Sr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2020, 12:09:51 am
content: You have to adjust the small screw trimmer capacitor on the probe - the bit that goes closest to the scope.

author: dssence
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2020, 12:15:33 am
content: Quote from: Gandalf_Sr on September 25, 2020, 12:09:51 amYes I did adjust the small screw, but that's as best as it can get. but I see some of the edges are not completely flat. Maybe that's the best adjustment you can do. That's whaty I wanted to know. Have you seen the vid I posted on youtube?

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2020, 01:00:23 am
content: Quote from: dssence on September 25, 2020, 12:15:33 amThat's just the calibration signal. Nothing to worry about.