looks good ? a vac bot with a robo arm ? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Simmed
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2025, 11:44:22 pm
content: a robo vacwith an armthat will pick up small debris ?https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/06/chinese-robot-vacuum-cleaner-roborock-reveals-ai-powered-robotic-arm.htmlbut if the dog made a pile of poowill it move it into the socks basket ?im not sure chinese ai is that good.brown poo vs brown socks ?

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2025, 11:52:52 pm
content: This one reminds me of Warner Brothers cartoons from around 1950.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 12:16:23 am
content: IMHO worthless feature unless you constantly throw socks all around. Many different obstructions happen on the floor, so picking socks only makes no sense IMHO.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 01:18:04 am
content: Does it pick up cats and hamsters too?

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 01:29:53 am
content: Warner Brothers anticipated that.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 01:32:41 am
content: Quote from: Simmed on January 05, 2025, 11:44:22 pmIt isn't. But since it has spyware built-in, maybe they are employing people to sit there and monitor everyone's vacuuming and click on things that need to be collected.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 01:38:51 am
content: Quote from: Halcyon on January 06, 2025, 01:32:41 amI guess that would be one way to guarantee full employment ...

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 01:46:01 am
content: Maybe OpenAI actually employs indian people to answer all questions asked on ChatGPT.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 02:02:31 am
content: this one is better they got it right in 1950 complete with cyborgization

author: jonovid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 03:39:16 am
content: inspector gadget's hat

author: Simmed
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 04:01:30 am
content: ah i recall nowthere were vac bots with their cams hackedso pics of your house could leak on internet

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 04:20:34 am
content: Quote from: Simmed on January 06, 2025, 04:01:30 amThose were the Ecovacs units. Threat actors gained control of the units, streamed live video and could send audio to the units themselves.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 04:47:59 am
content: Quote from: Simmed on January 06, 2025, 04:01:30 amY'know, in my more cynical moments I just think "Well, that's on you, you poor gullible sucker.You invited Siri and Alexa into your house: what the hell did you think was going to happen?"

author: wilfred
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 06:12:26 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on January 06, 2025, 04:47:59 amThat reminded me of the myth of Vampires needing to be invited in to ones home. This website summed it up like this:https://fictionhorizon.com/why-do-vampires-have-to-be-invited-in/"But for our vampire friends, that first invitation is crucial. Once they’re invited in, the barrier is kind of “broken” for them, and they can return anytime. Remember Dracula and Lucy from Bram Stoker’s novel? Yep, once invited, Dracula had free reign to visit poor Lucy whenever he pleased.But it’s not just about entering homes. This rule reflects the idea that evil, represented by the vampire, can’t harm you unless you allow it to. It’s a choice, an act of free will. By inviting a vampire in, you’re metaphorically (and, in this case, literally) letting darkness into your life."Centuries later I wonder what we would create instead of a Vampire. But the metaphor still work for me.

author: Ranayna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 11:55:18 am
content: Quote from: wilfred on January 06, 2025, 06:12:26 amInteresting metaphor, but it dies for me at "evil [...] can’t harm you unless you allow it to". Thats bullshit and amounts to victim blaming.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 09:07:29 pm
content: Quote from: Ranayna on January 06, 2025, 11:55:18 amWell, that's an interesting philosophical point.It all comes down to whether or not you believe people are generally well-informed and capable of making decisions about how technology affects them.I'd say, based on the available evidence, that people are generallynotwell-informed. So where does that leave us? are they innocent victims who should be protected from such malfeasance, or clueless idiots who should know better?To me, the answer depends on which side of bed I got up on that particular day ...

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 09:22:27 pm
content: Quote from: Ranayna on January 06, 2025, 11:55:18 amits more like a way of not having people freak out at rare occurrences. I.e. you can sleep at night because there is a possibility of refusing to open the door for a imposter repair man or something.I think its a pretty simple thing, it has to do with keeping people out of your house. Trying to apply it to objects works partially because their basically remote controlled.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 09:58:58 pm
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on January 06, 2025, 09:22:27 pmtheir ≠ they're ≠ there

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 10:01:49 pm
content: You slipped up and forgot the "its" for "it's": you may lose your pedantry license.

author: Ranayna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 10:05:38 pm
content: Oh, i understand the metaphor in the context of this thread. And i agree, within this context.Though avoiding the "evil", so to speak, gets more difficult every year.But this generalization that "evil can't hurt you if you don't allow it to" takes this too far. Maybe it's just my literal mindedness again making me a spoilsport though

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2025, 10:16:14 pm
content: Quote from: Ranayna on January 06, 2025, 10:05:38 pmYes it does.But so too should be the growing awareness among the great unwashed masses that maybe, just maybe, all these kewl shiny objects that we're carrying around and fitting our homes with, just maybe they're not all convenience and coolness and things to promote better living.Just maybe.