NileRed on you tube has asked me for a "taken apart" idea for chemistry. Ideas? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2017, 05:52:04 pm
content: He has a great video where he takes milk apart into its constituents and then try's to chemically put it back together. What common thing would be cool to take apart? I thought wine or beer.https://youtu.be/BV8aFRII1M4

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2017, 07:51:27 pm
content: Wood. It's an interesting material when you think about it. It's not like plastic or metal in that it's not uniform, and can't (at least as far as most woods go) be melted. It can be bent, formed, soft, hard, and strong. It would be cool to see a video taking apart the various parts of wood and analyzing the fibers and structure.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 28, 2017, 08:31:26 pm
content: Quote from: TwoOfFive on August 28, 2017, 07:51:27 pmHe does this when he makes soluble cellulose with Schweizer's Reagent.https://youtu.be/tvoimHLHdnANot wood but cotton. Wood is half cellulose. Wood is just sugar!

author: apelly
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 29, 2017, 05:33:26 am
content: Something high in nitrogen?Nah. How about plastic?Or, better, how about separating denatonium benzoate from ethanol and colouring? I believe it is tricky because they have similar boiling points.Simple lab test for methanol would be a nice bonus.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2017, 01:48:05 pm
content: Quote from: apelly on August 29, 2017, 05:33:26 amUnfortunately plastic just contains plastic.Denatonium benzoate would just be a distillation and wouldn't make for an interesting video even if it has an aziotrope with ethanol.

author: frozenfrogz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2017, 01:56:59 pm
content: There are a lot of additives in plastic products. Separating colored plastics into actual plastic molecules, color pigments, softeners etc. would be quite a challenge and could make for some very interesting lessons!Also pyrolysis of plastics and analyzing what substances gas of would be interesting as well.NileRed is awesome by the way

author: Mr. Scram
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2017, 05:01:06 pm
content: Quote from: TwoOfFive on August 28, 2017, 07:51:27 pmWood is a good one.

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2017, 02:14:08 pm
content: Quote from: frozenfrogz on August 29, 2017, 01:56:59 pmYes I thinking ABS plastic but it has to be something that he could do with his glassware. Some things mix like gasoline and are very hard to separate or at most just really slow and tedious to make a bunch of beakers all filled with clear liquids. Maybe a plant would be interesting lots of chemicals or meat would also be interesting but it has to e realistic.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 04, 2017, 03:45:34 pm
content: Household BleachSomewhere in my memory I believe mixing a combination of cleaning products once caused massive liberation of Chlorine... quite interesting.Hydrogen Peroxide and Bleach could provide some entertainment too... ?Sodium hypochlorite is a strong oxidizer... a bit boring in aqueous form... maybe there is a way of making it more interesting?

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2017, 04:44:07 am
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on September 04, 2017, 03:45:34 pmI think he has done chlorine from bleach or nurd rage or dougs lab have its not super interesting. Hydrogen peroxide and bleach just kind of bubble. Good for cleaning alternating spraying one on the other.

author: tpowell1830
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timestamp: September 06, 2017, 05:33:01 am
content: Quote from: Beamin on August 28, 2017, 05:52:04 pmSince this is an electronics forum, isn't it obvious? How about putting the smoke back into components in which it has escaped?DUH!

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2017, 11:27:03 am
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on September 04, 2017, 03:45:34 pmAcid and bleach. Chemists use this to generate chlorine gas in the lab. Or if not liquid bleach, then solid calcium hypochlorite or TCCA.Or really, anything sufficiently oxidizing with hydrochloric acid, that doesn't make side products. (Example: MnO2.Counter example: nitric acid, which makes nitrosyl chloride in part, which is the active ingredient in aqua regia, that can dissolve gold and platinum.)The classic toxic cleaning agent combo is bleach and ammonia, which doesn't release chlorine, but something even worse, chloramine and nitrogen chlorides. These are about as reactive, but longer lasting, hence the use in water chlorination.QuoteThe irony is that they're both oxidizers. But H2O2 can be a reducer, sometimes, resulting in O2 gas. This is such a case. Interestingly enough, that O2 is produced in the singlet state, which slowly decays to the triplet state. Deep red light is released in the process!http://woelen.homescience.net/science/chem/exps/chemlum/index.htmlQuoteBoil it to obtain chlorate, then add acid*?*At your own risk. ClO2 is spontaneously explosive!Tim

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2017, 12:59:00 pm
content: Quote from: Beamin on September 06, 2017, 04:44:07 amThat seems to lack a lot of imagination.Diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate fertilizer? Or would that be boring too... like driving a car or growing potatoes?

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 06, 2017, 02:58:56 pm
content: Quote from: NivagSwerdna on September 06, 2017, 12:59:00 pmFor those, Codyslab has you covered. (Almost. AFAIK he does blasting with black powder, not high explosives.)Tim

author: frozenfrogz
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timestamp: September 06, 2017, 05:15:55 pm
content: Quote from: T3sl4co1l on September 06, 2017, 02:58:56 pm

author: Beamin
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2017, 02:47:09 pm
content: Quote from: T3sl4co1l on September 06, 2017, 02:58:56 pmits HE; black powder would be too dangerous/slow you can see the paper charges he makes and a guy tosses them up in the air in one video. If you message him and he thinks you know what you are talking about he will tell you things. You can buy it commercially but I never say where as once things get on the internet some kid buys it does something stupid parents don't take responsibility and it turns to shit and you can't buy it anymore.