Analog Devices buys Linear Technology - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: chicken
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 26, 2016, 09:56:27 pm
content: And the acquisition carousel goes around and around...Analog Devices buys Linear Technology for $14.8 billionhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-26/analog-devices-said-in-advanced-talks-to-buy-linear-technology

author: photon
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 12:35:42 am
content: I suppose it makes them number 2 Analog Seller after TI and better able to compete against TI. This is assuming their offerings are really complementary.

author: b_force
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 12:41:16 am
content: Maybe this is an answer to TI, who bought National semiconductor a while back and gained a massive amount on the market.I do like products of AD and Linear, although they are bought a bit pricey.

author: Vgkid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 06:06:22 am
content: It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Will LT be absorbed into AD, or stay as a seperate company. Will that mean I can finally buy LT parts on mouser.

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 07:04:36 am
content: Fudge...

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 08:28:04 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on July 27, 2016, 06:39:01 amYou forgot more recent merges/splits:NXP forks NexperiaCSR -> QualcommIR -> InfineonMicrel -> MicrochipAtmel -> Dialog semiconductor (cancelled)Atmel -> MicrochipWD -> SandiskBroadcom -> AvagoYou still follow?Me neither.Who's up next? Renesas or ST?

author: Ice-Tea
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 08:36:55 am
content: Wow. Like both, actually. Guess I'll have one less website to check in the future. Less work for me!

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 11:12:51 am
content: A good combination of two premier niche players. Synergy on marketing, engineering, back office and support functions, not to mention cross sale opportunities.Terrible for users of their products.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 11:33:24 am
content: The people that are affected the most with merges like this are employees. Business operations will be shuffled, locations will be shuffled, people will be fired/hired.And customers of almost-eol products.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 11:41:26 am
content: "Probably years later we will see Intel (Acquires Qualcomm), "Qualcomm will die because of huawei or some Chinese player. If that's the case, they are unlikely to have value to a desktop CPU maker like Intel, given how important the Chinese market is to them.I can see it getting picked by armh / Softbank however."ADI (Acquires Cypress) "Of the MCU companies, cypress is the most interesting because it is the most innovative, particularly on the software side. I can see they getting picked up by a large competitor whos weak on software. St, NXP, or microchip. For example.

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 11:43:00 am
content: I wonder how Jim Williams would have felt about this? Speaking of which, I better download all his app notes before they all get updated with "Analog Devices" headers, or more likely, removed entirely.I have a feeling we're about to lose a slew of very good op-amps (at least any ones that compete with AD's offerings). I also fear for the future of LT's voltage references. I imagine they won't kill off the LTZ1000, as it's the only thing going for high end meters, but the LM399? That's another story...When I first read the news, my heart instantly sank and I really hoped it was 4-1...

author: ebclr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 11:45:54 am
content: Don't forget CypressThe most aggressive buyer on townBougthBroadcomSpansionSimtekRamtron

author: chris_leyson
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 11:57:55 am
content: Quoteand maybe 16-bit A-D converters used in many software defined receivers. I hope not.

author: Tandy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 12:15:50 pm
content: Kind of makes sense but Linear seemed to be more engineer lead and Analog more marketing, I hope that the Linear products keep coming and not killed off by the marketing department for not being as easy to market.

author: andersm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 12:38:29 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on July 27, 2016, 08:40:27 amAvago bought Broadcom, and renamed itself to Broadcom. This June, Broadcom sold their "Wireless Internet of Things business" (WiFi, Bluetooth and Zigbee product lines) to Cypress.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 12:39:58 pm
content: Linux --> apple?

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 12:41:16 pm
content: Quote from: Tandy on July 27, 2016, 12:15:50 pmWell, there isnt a lot of company which does this:http://www.linear.com/solutions/7256Most company is "yeah we made an LDO, whatever"LT: We made a revolutionary LDO architechture, and here is our co-founder and CTO Bob, who will explain it to you.Also, check out our new application note with paint cans and Frankenstein tube amplifier powered SMPS.It has been a wonderful 30 year for Linear technology. It will be greatly missed.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 01:31:05 pm
content: My Linear Technology databooks can now retire and hang out with my Precision Monolithic Incorporated databooks.That is a shame about the web site; the AD web site is next to useless and even worse than the TI web site.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 02:19:46 pm
content: Quote from: Tandy on July 27, 2016, 12:15:50 pmI agree. Linear Technology makes very nice chips. I just used one of their simple Li-ion charger in one of my designs. Two external components to set maximum charge time and charge current are all that is required to make it go. And it also outputs it's status as well.

author: ECEdesign
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 04:37:27 pm
content: I like both of their products. The nice thing about Linear is that you can call up an engineer and ask about technical issues. TI and AD you have to go through a bloody forum. AD makes some really precision products but I think the engineers are really held in high regard at Linear. Their claim to fame was low drama at Linear. Hope that doesn't go away.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 04:51:09 pm
content: Quote from: DiligentMinds.com on July 27, 2016, 02:46:21 pmBack when paper databooks and datasheets ruled the world, I would make my own selection guides by including specifications and calculations based on specifications and measurements. I have had to do less of that when using parts from certain manufacturers like LT, to a lessor extent TI, and not at all for AD simply based on the usability of their web site. For AD and TI, I end up downloading all of the individual datasheets which might possibly contain a suitable part and doing it the old fashioned way. The waste of time involved led me to use more LT parts.I fear I am going to have to write off LT just like I wrote off ATMEL when Microchip acquired them. In the past I wrote off PMI after AD acquired them but that was because of the drop in datasheet quality. The very old AD datasheets and application notes were nice though and I still have them along with the ones from National.James Burke said it best however. If it is not on the internet, then it does not exist.The current Tektronix web site is atrocious as well; I can no longer download their user manuals to find out if a product will do what I want. A Tektronix representative has tried to contact me since then but based on previous experience, I see little point in discussing the issue with them.

author: razberik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 05:03:53 pm
content: Oh well, time to backup their entire website.And do some legacy mirror online ?

author: razberik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 05:51:56 pm
content: Or opposite, that LTspice would be commercial ?

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 07:13:08 pm
content: Quote from: ECEdesign on July 27, 2016, 04:37:27 pmThere is the reason Linear parts are more expensive. Their datasheets and appnotes are also very good. Even for the accidental analog designer.Earliers Linear published this:http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/article/X54_EN-Analog.pdf

author: magetoo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 07:18:41 pm
content: Quote from: timb on July 27, 2016, 11:43:00 amQuote from: David Hess on July 27, 2016, 04:51:09 pmQuote from: razberik on July 27, 2016, 05:03:53 pmBitsaversarchives this sort of thing, might be worth taking a look if something is already there if you're thinking of doing the same. Very little from Linear there unfortunately.Shame they don't keep more datasheets and app notes, I would love to have a go-to place that doesn't add watermarks, extra pages, and other garbage.

author: ECEdesign
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 07:29:14 pm
content: I actually like the AD website it is very clean. I really hate the TI website though and Linear's website is average. Why do people hate the AD website so much?

author: razberik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 07:51:02 pm
content: It is slow and not much information visible at first sight.

author: dcarr
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 08:16:46 pm
content: Well crap. And yes the ADI website is terrible. The old one was much more information rich.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 09:24:31 pm
content: Another one from a while back:Silicon Image -> Lattice

author: exmadscientist
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 27, 2016, 11:54:53 pm
content: At least it's my #1 and #2 preferred vendors merging, with not a Maxim or Microchip in sight. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Both companies have been historically strong in many of the same areas, so there's potentially a lot to lose if management starts really swinging the axe (and you know they will, it's only a question of where and how hard). I can hope though, that things might turn out okay, as NSC and TI merging more or less did.I think the best thing to watch is new product introductions. As long as the shiny new toys keep coming, we'll be fine. What's interesting is how ADI products and LTC products differ a bit in approach. ADI has for a while had best-in-class ADCs and amplifiers, usually edging out LTC on specs (though of course not always). LTC products, on the other hand, simply do things no one else can do. It's easy to be top of the class when you're the only one who can do it at all! Both companies typically pursue higher specs and higher margins than, say, TI, who do anything and everything at a reasonable price but are rarely best of breed.

author: calexanian
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 04:08:03 am
content: everybody get ready for scopes to go up in price!Fortunately I only have a few LT parts in our current designs, and none of them are part critical. Just a couple of voltage boosters. Nothing I cant find from another vendor if those numbers get cut loose. The only part I am screed on if it goes away is the Maxim MAX4460 as ts the only part of its type with low enough power draw and fast enough time to operation that we can turn it on, turn on the ADC and have a good signal to sample when the ADC is ready to go and them shut it off (battery powered application with a high sample rate)

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 04:41:29 am
content: After all that volt-nuttery I'm sorta become fanboy of LT parts and their clean and easy to use site.Will we see AD labelled LTZ1000's in couple years? I bet that will revive LTZ1000 thread in Metrology section for another 50 pages or so.Probably site is not an issue for enterprise customers though, as those guys get direct FAE support and don't even need to see the websites

author: XFDDesign
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 04:47:45 pm
content: Quote from: TiN on July 28, 2016, 04:41:29 amNo, the linear parts as they exist will always be LTxxxx. Anything new will be AD(ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ)xxxx.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 05:46:25 pm
content: Quote from: XFDDesign on July 28, 2016, 04:47:45 pmYep, Analog Devices did the same thing with the PMI part numbers after acquiring them. Doing otherwise just invites confusion. TI did the same thing after purchasing Burr-Brown and National. I would not expect any new LT parts however and a continuing program of obsolescence with recommended AD replacements seems likely which is sad since LT makes some uniquely useful parts.Seems like an odd coincidence that National and Linear Technology were both purchased by competitors shortly after Robert Pease and Jim Williams died.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 06:08:25 pm
content: consolidation wave is not over yet .... there's 2 more in the works ...

author: calexanian
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 07:17:01 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on July 28, 2016, 06:08:25 pmI have a strange feeling ST is going to do something, or have something done to them.

author: XFDDesign
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 09:23:35 pm
content: Quote from: David Hess on July 28, 2016, 05:46:25 pmLet's see. ADI:-Pushed Ray Stata to a board level ornament.-"Retired" Moshe Gershtaber (SP?)-"Retired" Lou Counts..and is pushing a few other 'fathers of industry' out the door...

author: grouchobyte
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 10:02:27 pm
content: This is great news, especially if they keep the LT sales and applications people.Wow....precision Analog from ADI with the power offering from LT. No more sucky opamps from LT and decent ADCs from ADIWhat I want to know is : When will Maxim succumb to the acquisition gods and who will buy them? Then my life will be complete@grouchobyte

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 11:07:43 pm
content: Quote from: grouchobyte on July 28, 2016, 10:02:27 pmSucky op-amps from LT? Hah, I don't know what datasheets you've been reading, but...

author: XFDDesign
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 28, 2016, 11:43:48 pm
content: Quote from: timb on July 28, 2016, 11:07:43 pmWell... heislooking forward to someone picking up Maxim...

author: grouchobyte
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2016, 07:43:08 am
content: Quote from: XFDDesign on July 28, 2016, 11:43:48 pmIts a matter of opinion, but depending on requirements sometimes its hard to beat TI/burr brown and Nationals process. Also ADI have some amazing parts. That said, LT by their own admission are not the industry leader in making the best performing parts like opamps. I have been an analog design engineer for over 30 years and even my good friend Jim Williams told me over lunch, several times that LT sucks at opamps.They certainly have an amazing Power lineup and they are proud of that. Its the power stuff ADI wanted.Also, Maxim makes some amazing stuff and I would love to spec something in after 25 years, but if you know anything at all about their technology and their business model you would also wish that someone would buy them.@grouchobyte

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2016, 08:03:04 am
content: Quote from: grouchobyte on July 29, 2016, 07:43:08 amIDK, I've always placed LT opamps the same place, or higher than TI aor AD parts (Maxim ignored, others not even the ballpark) Now, they dont have fancy laser trimmed opamps and the zero drift parts are not the best (2057 huge exception). My biggest issue is the complete lack of instrumentation amplifiers from LT, at least the ones worth mentioning.But they have 150V PSU opamp, power opamp to 2A, high voltage zero drift ones, they actually still release differential amplifiers... Maybe it is the last few years, but they have been pretty good at it.

author: grouchobyte
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2016, 12:39:57 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on July 29, 2016, 08:03:04 amAgreed.......there are several special function LT parts that are unique and have used them successfully over the years in my designs. But overall, the datasheets are chock full of errors and hidden gotchas ( more than the competition), some important parameters are spec'd typical and the notes reveal potential snafus that usually bring WTF angst down the road. I have to spend much more time vetting an LT part then I do any other, simply because of the inconsistently written data sheets. At LT, the design engineer writes the data sheet and thus the inconsistency. Also, LT parts almost always cost more then their competitors.I don't hate LT, I just find their parts have too many interesting quirks which I consider "sucky" , especially their generic "me too" opamps.@grouchobyte

author: XFDDesign
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2016, 12:42:23 pm
content: Quote from: grouchobyte on July 29, 2016, 07:43:08 amI'm mostly poking fun. Maxim does make some amazing parts. Their sample program was (past tense as I've not touched them after getting burnt too often) fantastic. But once I did a design or two around them, and finding stock was non-existent, it makes no difference how great they are when I can't get them.

author: grouchobyte
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2016, 12:56:45 pm
content: Quote from: XFDDesign on July 29, 2016, 12:42:23 pmEveryone or almost everyone I know has been burned by Maxim. Wouldn't it be great, if for example, we could get exemplary sales and apps support that we now enjoy W/ LT only with my Maxim's silicon?Now that is an idea worth dreaming about.

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 29, 2016, 01:28:55 pm
content: Please just rebrand the Linear website to be AD, rather than keeping the rubbish site and trashing the good one.Now I'm beginning to wonder if I should make that prototype with LT parts or not.

author: timb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2016, 01:29:46 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on July 29, 2016, 08:03:04 amTheir high voltage 140V and high current 2A op-amps were precisely what I was thinking of. They also make a couple of very good, absurdly low input bias current amps. They even have a high voltage, low input bias part! (Capable of being used as a electrometer grade buffer for a DMM.)I think LT is the only company doing an affordable "high voltage" op-amp (outside of an old National part). Apex has plenty of HV parts, going up to 1kV in fact, but they're insanely expensive (well over $100/ea).

author: mairo
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timestamp: July 29, 2016, 02:00:10 pm
content: I hope LT website stays as it is (highly unlikely), I hate dealing with AD's website for the past several years, it was once a great website..I also hope LT Spice stays and all AD parts get incorporated in.

author: grouchobyte
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2016, 04:01:17 pm
content: http://www.linear.com/product/LTC6090I used this LT part in a recent Mach Zhander interferometer fiber sensing project to drive a piezo fiber stretcher. Nothing like it anywhere. This is certainly not part of the sucky group of opamps I was referring to in a earlier post@grouchobyte

author: b_force
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2016, 08:50:59 pm
content: Quote from: mairo on July 29, 2016, 02:00:10 pmSame here, that's the main reasons I barely use ADs website.Drives me insane

author: Tomorokoshi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2016, 12:06:26 am
content: Quote from: station240 on July 29, 2016, 01:28:55 pmYes, I have a design in the schematic stage right now with an LT switcher in it. I could ask the FAE or the sales guy about it, but the veracity of their information would be at the noise level at this point.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2016, 01:11:59 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on July 30, 2016, 08:55:25 pmThe ADI and TI and Maxim web sites have two problems: at least in my case they usually do not provide the right selection data that I am interested in but more importantly, they are incredibly slow. The LT site is not fast by any means but at least it does not waste my time.These web sites perform so poorly that it is faster for me to download lots of datasheets, pour through them manually, and make my own selection table. In the case of TI's, it often leaves older parts off.

author: uncle_bob
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: July 31, 2016, 02:33:47 am
content: HiHere's another one to be concerned about:If you are doing something in small volume, LT would sell you parts direct. Try to get a handful of high(ish) speed ADC's from LT and ADI. They are quite competitive with each other in larger volumes. Go to the "build a few prototypes" end of the scale .... ADI gets very expensive.We'll see how that one shakes out.Bob

author: XFDDesign
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2016, 03:49:43 am
content: Quote from: David Hess on July 31, 2016, 01:11:59 amWhen you know the part number, google becomes the new "website" for a lot of these vendors.As to small volume sales, those will go away. Everything will get sucked into the ADI SAP system.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2016, 08:52:33 pm
content: Well about the who's next. There are rumors Qualcomm and NXP are going on a date.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 31, 2016, 08:55:29 pm
content: Quote from: XFDDesign on July 31, 2016, 03:49:43 amAh, they have SAP. Good for them.

author: blackfin76
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2016, 08:15:54 am
content: I hope they keep the LT application notes online, those are so valuable for engineers.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2016, 08:18:03 am
content: Quote from: blackfin76 on August 02, 2016, 08:15:54 amWe should backup them while they are still there. Probably keep a hard copy printed. And one on microfilms in a lead box in a nuclear bunker.mod... It is 147 MB.

author: razberik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2016, 10:54:16 am
content: So true, I backed up something valuable few times and a good choice it was. It vanished.And always backup your favourite videos on YT. You want them to watch again after months and they are not there anymore.

author: blackfin76
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2016, 11:50:03 am
content: Quote from: blueskull on July 30, 2016, 08:55:25 pmI think it has more to do with people being annoyed having web sites changed all the time. If it aint broke don't try to fix it.It seems to be a software related thing, changing the UI, change the way things look, add features no one asked for in the first place, don't fix bugs that should be fixed. Stuff like that can make one wonder what de real purpose of all this is.Having an up to date look and lots of eye candy doesn't make up for a bad user experience imo.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2016, 12:17:36 pm
content: Quote from: blackfin76 on August 02, 2016, 11:50:03 amIt has more to do with the website usefulness. The old Maxim website was terrible, the recent one is good. Analog went from OK to bad. TI made huge improvements, the online datasheet is just awesome. It is the difficulty to reach the information. I talked with AD support engineers, they said themselves that the new website is terrible.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2016, 10:38:22 pm
content: Quote from: NANDBlog on August 02, 2016, 08:18:03 amI have all of their paper databooks and application books which include useful articles which are *not* available online.I had most of their online application notes and some of their design notes but now I have them all except for DN416 and a couple of the later application notes which apparently never existed. Those plus design solutions add up to ... about 239 MB so far.I am going to grab the LT Magazines next as they also have useful articles. At some point I will scan the missing articles which were only available in their paper application books and hold them for ransom for 1 million dollars.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2016, 10:39:45 pm
content: Quote from: blackfin76 on August 02, 2016, 11:50:03 amChange I could live with but every change they make makes the web sites less reliable and slower.

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 03, 2016, 12:41:10 am
content: Quote from: blackfin76 on August 02, 2016, 11:50:03 amBreaking up OPAMPS into arbitrary "types" so you can't do a parametric search across their entire range... fail.

author: Sal Ammoniac
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 05, 2016, 02:28:42 pm
content: Quote from: ebclr on July 27, 2016, 11:45:54 amThat's somewhat misleading. Cypress didn't buy Broadcom, Avago did. Cypress bought some of Broadcom's wireless assets. Avago has a history of buying companies (LSI, Broadcom) and then selling off bits and pieces of the companies they acquire.

author: FuzzyOnion
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 05, 2016, 06:53:19 pm
content: A quick question for all you guys that hate ADI's website- Have you told anyone at ADI about your frustrations with using the search tools?When I worked there, the web guys and the Field App guys were very interested in making the site useful. They took input willingly from everybody - especially engineers. I've been gone a few years, but with the web being a central point nowadays, I can't believe that if all you dissatisfied folks expressed your frustration, ADI would ignore it. The web presence is just too valuable these days to intentionally piss folks off.Just a thought...

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 05, 2016, 07:37:32 pm
content: Then they should not have changed it in the first place. AD, ST etc used to have well functioning web interfaces, then they started to dick a round multiple times.. Dont see the point of customers have to tell them they fucked it up. Yet again a management problem, as always.

author: ECEdesign
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 05, 2016, 08:48:47 pm
content: For those of you downloading all of the LT notes if you compiled them onto a file on dropbox that would be sweet!

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2016, 05:30:27 am
content: Quote from: ECEdesign on August 05, 2016, 08:48:47 pmI will no doubt do that and include nice scans of the articles which are only available on paper but have no projected time to completion. Currently I edit the file names to be more descriptive while watching a movie but I estimate that I am lots of movies away from being completed and the current rate of new Hollywood movies worth watching is low.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2016, 06:18:45 am
content: Quote from: FuzzyOnion on August 05, 2016, 06:53:19 pmWhat ADI need to understand - and this may be a surprise to them - that engineering is not done on smartphones. I really doubt engineers would say - hey i want that stupid carousel banner on the front page and please make it huge to make sure the useful stuff can not be easily found.

author: razberik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2016, 10:33:18 am
content: I remember talking to one application engineer (somebody from austrian site) on ADI seminar. I told him that I like ADI products, but I don't use them, because their web is harsh and I prefer LT instead.He agreed with me and he dislike theirnewweb too.Could Dave make some video about websites ? I would love to hear some rant about useless webs from Dave, rather than pointless videos about free energy and solar roadways (waste of time making it and watching it).

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 06, 2016, 11:56:11 am
content: Quote from: ECEdesign on August 05, 2016, 08:48:47 pmPut them in a torrent. That way you don't exceed Dropbox share limit.

author: FuzzyOnion
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 12:23:43 am
content: Quote from: MT on August 05, 2016, 07:37:32 pmWow! You're absolutely right. The concept of customer feedback is clearly inapplicable. I can see that a more rational method would be to assume that the web designers will magically intuit how someone may or may not want to use the site. I totally agree that the reasonable, effective approach of pissing, moaning and complaining about it rather than taking initiative by providing constructive criticism that may result in improvement is ingenious. It's an exemplary plan. Let us hope that the nebulous, non-sentient entity known as "management" does not thwart this enviable construct.Cheers

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 01:56:52 am
content: Quote from: FuzzyOnion on August 07, 2016, 12:23:43 amI tried that but Steve told me I was holding it wrong and that skeuomorphic interfaces were the future.

author: XFDDesign
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2016, 02:11:46 am
content: Quote from: FuzzyOnion on August 05, 2016, 06:53:19 pmWhich site did you work at? Internally the site has had the piss taken out of it byeveryonenot of mid-level management.

author: Tomorokoshi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 03:28:42 pm
content: Quote from: razberik on August 06, 2016, 10:33:18 amThis could be a very interesting and dynamic topic. There are all sorts of competing interests, and many ideas about what constitutes best practices as they apply for the various interested parties.For instance, I tend to use Digi-Key for searching for parts, instead of the manufacturer web sites. If I need to search for parts not on Digi-Key then I look at the specific sites, but some clearly are easier to use. For me the worst are those that require a big recomputation when one small change to the parameters is done, and everything is run through some kind of local Java applet.It seems that a lot of Chinese and Taiwanese web sites have a sketchy feeling to them, while German web sites are difficult to search and navigate. (Phoenix, Turck).Eventually my part lists get run through a web site to check on lifetime and supplier status. This drives a somewhat iterative process of narrowing in on functionality vs. availability.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 04:52:44 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on August 08, 2016, 03:33:18 pmEasy to use and engineer friendly are also not important when marketing gets ahold of the web site and turns it into a pretty sales brochure without content. If you need technical documentation, then they are not interested in selling to you.I think TI plays the dark interface game. They have too many older parts which never show up in their selection guides but which can be found if you search for the part number. That strikes me as a way for sales to drive unknowing customers to more expensive parts. That may be shrewd, but it also means they cannot be trusted which is hardly new with TI.

author: MT
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 08, 2016, 10:45:29 pm
content: Quote from: FuzzyOnion on August 07, 2016, 12:23:43 amGood grief, you are from the hipster generation!One point i could imagine but im to tired to right now is "reinvention of web interfaces is to lure new clueless customers they improved while old timers know how things was in the past=better. Nor is there such thing as a "free wheeling web designers" that can do whatever interface they want at the fot of a elephant, they are all under the marketing department dictates at the top of the elephant.ST for example, everyone who deal with ST knows their forum engine is utter crap, and everyone have constructively complained and suggested tons of ideas "for years". Now do ST web designers listen? No! why? Because the marketing department "say so". Yet ST used to have a well working forum engine "for years". Now, why did they screw up? Who's fault was it? And most fun of all is the ST people who maintain the crap is also pissed we have been told and want it go away. So i will give you 10 dullars if you go to ST and can make them change, if you cant you owe me 100dullars!QuoteAnd yet they do over and over and over and you cant figure it out, how peculiar!Bad web interfaces, bad data sheets, poor product, yadda, yadda, yadda etc, etc, we all are affected by it on a daily basis from ........insert mfg.....you suggest that 500million engineers should join in gigantic group hug and go bombard ...insert mfg......with constructive complaints?You must be crazzzzy, i rather spend my time to actually design and engineer, i dont have time to point out "obviousness" to a elephant!Im also all in for Dave go ape over mfg web interfaces from a engineering perspective.

author: ECEdesign
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 15, 2016, 01:57:32 am
content: While we are on the topic of website bashing... I really hate how when I click on view datasheet it takes me to another webpage where I have to click some more text for it to actually show me the datasheet PDF.... ADI and LTC are both better in that respect.

author: Jay_Diddy_B
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2017, 02:00:25 pm
content: Hi group,The day has arrived:Regards,Jay_Diddy_B

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2017, 07:42:44 pm
content: How long before one of the names is taken down?

author: julian1
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2017, 08:13:38 pm
content: Why does ADI need regulatory approval from a Chinese regulator?

author: Jay_Diddy_B
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2017, 09:38:32 pm
content: Hi,You have to get regulatory approval for all the major markets that you sell into. This is anti-trust, monopolies type stuff.Regards,Jay_Diddy_B

author: HoracioDos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2017, 11:06:35 pm
content: Quote from: ECEdesign on August 05, 2016, 08:48:47 pmIf you have linux you can run this to download all the Application Notes in the website. It's only 165Mb.wget -qkhttp://www.linear.com/designtools/app_notes.php-O linear.html && cat linear.html | grep -o '<a .*href=.*>' | sed -e 's/<a/\n<a/g' | sed -e 's/<a .*href=['"'"'"]//' -e 's/["'"'"'].*$//' -e '/^$/ d' | grep 'docs' > dwnlst.txt && wget -i dwnlst.txt

author: Red Squirrel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2017, 11:16:00 pm
content: I don't like seeing these buy outs but seems to happen in every industry these days. Capitalism at work.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2017, 11:18:20 pm
content: Code:wget -qk [url=http://www.linear.com/designtools/app_notes.php]http://www.linear.com/designtools/app_notes.php -O linear.html && cat linear.html | grep -o '<a .*href=.*>' | sed -e 's/<a/\n<a/g' | sed -e 's/<a .*href=['"'"'"]//' -e 's/["'"'"'].*$//' -e '/^$/ d' | grep 'docs' > dwnlst.txt && wget -i dwnlst.txtToo bad it omits the ".pdf" and the actual filename.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2017, 11:23:54 pm
content: Quote from: HoracioDos on March 10, 2017, 11:06:35 pmBrilliant! I have a Linux NAS box and the App Notes are downloading perfectly. Thanks!

author: HoracioDos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2017, 02:09:25 am
content: Quote from: Jeroen3 on March 10, 2017, 11:18:20 pmOops!! I'm sorry. Perhaps I posted too soon. This command will rename all files in a folder.Attention: Make sure that there are no other files that you don't want to rename in the folder where you've downloaded the files and get inside the folder with: cd "folder name" without quotes.This is a massive rename command. Please check everything first.rename 's/$/.pdf/' *

author: Carrington
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2017, 07:26:25 am
content: Quote from: Jay_Diddy_B on March 10, 2017, 02:00:25 pmWhat a shame!LT made very good products.

author: HoracioDos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2017, 12:30:45 am
content: Quote from: Jeroen3 on March 10, 2017, 11:18:20 pmI'm sorry for the delay. I've found a better URL to parse. This command creates a download script called linear.sh. You need to execute it only one time. Then you only need to execute linear.sh as many times you want to download the app notes.It downloads the application notes with their real file name and also takes their tittle for the final file name.wget isn't very friendly for bulk downloading and rename the output at the same time.Code:wget -k http://www.linear.com/designtools/doc_list.php?dt=2 -O /tmp/linear.txt && cat /tmp/linear.txt | grep -o 'href=.*docs.*</a>' | sed -e 's/href="/wget /' -e 's/"//' -e 's/>/ -O "/' -e 's/<[^>]\+>//g' -e 's/$/.pdf"/' > linear.sh && bash linear.shI hope you like it

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2017, 01:18:00 am
content: I just bit the bullet and renamed all the files:

author: HoracioDos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2017, 11:23:10 am
content: Quote from: amspire on March 13, 2017, 01:18:00 amYou didn't know for sure if I would post something better.

author: amspire
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2017, 11:54:08 am
content: Quote from: HoracioDos on March 13, 2017, 11:23:10 amIt would have been smarter to wait another day. A pretty clever command line.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 13, 2017, 07:04:19 pm
content: Quote from: HoracioDos on March 13, 2017, 12:30:45 amKudo's for you.Cygwin(windows) can run it too.

author: ECEdesign
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 18, 2017, 02:42:02 am
content: I was very glad to see that ADI is not going to abandon LTSPICE, they are adding ADI parts to it which is nice. One of the best free SPICE programs out there (if not the best).

author: PointyOintment
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2017, 09:00:34 am
content: Quote from: HoracioDos on March 13, 2017, 12:30:45 amVery useful; thanks! I had to edit it slightly, though. It left the</a>that you see at the end of every line in the rawgrepoutput in the script, resulting in malformed output filenames being passed towget. Changing-e 's/<[^>]\+>//g'to-e 's/<\/a>//g'fixed it. Whole command:Code:wget -k http://www.linear.com/designtools/doc_list.php?dt=2 -O /tmp/linear.txt && cat /tmp/linear.txt | grep -o 'href=.*docs.*</a>' | sed -e 's/href="/wget /' -e 's/"//' -e 's/>/ -O "/' -e 's/<\/a>//g' -e 's/$/.pdf"/' > linear.sh && bash linear.shWhat does-e 's/<[^>]\+>//g'even do? I barely know sed.Anyway, I did this just now, and the Linear appnotes are still online, for everybody who hasn't gotten around to downloading them yet.

author: HoracioDos
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2017, 12:40:28 pm
content: Quote from: PointyOintment on March 24, 2017, 09:00:34 amI'm glad that worked for you, but I can't see the malformed output filenames. Anyway, there are many ways to do this kind of things.Quote from: PointyOintment on March 24, 2017, 09:00:34 amThis removes all tags from /tmp/linear.txt. You can see it if you run this. It's place may be not the best because I started to filter text from the grep output. It's a residue from a previous attempt but it removes all the tags that previous commands didn't change.Code:cat /tmp/linear.txt | sed -e 's/<[^>]\+>//g' > linear.sh

author: PointyOintment
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 26, 2017, 07:12:41 am
content: That's what I guessed it was supposed to do, but in my case it didn't get those</a>s, which I think were the only tags left at that point. Strange.It's really annoying to try to inline-code-format "</a>" on here, BTW…

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 24, 2018, 04:02:05 pm
content: FINALLY.One of the positive consequences of the dealhttps://www.mouser.it/linear-technology

author: XFDDesign
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2018, 03:14:03 pm
content: Get ready to lose the linear.com website. ADI will be absorbing it into the mothership this year.

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2018, 03:51:41 pm
content: One of best UI site in the industry.

author: David Hess
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2018, 11:24:00 am
content: I figured it was a matter of time before linear.com was deprecated. I expect legacy Linear Technology parts to go the same way and have already started switching to alternatives. None of those are parts from Analog Devices because I cannot find anything in their atrocious selection guides.

author: TiN
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2018, 12:22:54 pm
content: Quote

author: plazma
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2018, 12:24:40 pm
content: R.I.P. last good vendor website.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2018, 07:14:50 pm
content: Sorry, I had to.

author: razberik
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2018, 11:13:12 am
content: I so much hate shareholders who sold their shares in Linear. Idiots.

author: Jeroen3
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2018, 08:59:41 am
content: Linear.com is dead. The /docs still link though, so not that many dead links.

author: ovnr
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2018, 09:17:36 am
content: I bet Maxim is going to do a bit better after this fuckup by AD. I'm certainly not going to be very inclined to spec a LT or AD part anymore.Shame, as I really liked LT. AD has always been a bit meh.

author: PartialDischarge
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2018, 10:50:03 am
content: Quote from: ovnr on April 03, 2018, 09:17:36 amThe website loss is a shame. On the other hand now Mouser stocks LT parts, before they didn't, and I seldom buy from digikey, so to me it's an overall win

author: sarel.wagner
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2018, 03:27:18 pm
content: This might help:Waybackmachine archive, 2018/Febhttps://web.archive.org/web/20180224033322/http://www.linear.com/