The expert! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2014, 08:48:55 am
content: Alexander.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2014, 10:09:29 am
content: I think we have all been there.......

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2014, 10:14:22 am
content: What you have to look forward to in the corporate world...

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2014, 10:57:18 am
content: I think Ghandi said this, but I am not sure where it originated...A specialist - the expert - knows more and more about less and less, until he knows everything about nothing.A generalist knows less and less about more and more until he knows nothing about everything.Well, those of us who have not been there, will be there one day.I see more and more of this stuff happening.The larger the companies are, that I have as a client, the more I see this kind of behavior.

author: Radio Tech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2014, 11:45:41 am
content: I dont get itThis is how the company I work for performs..........

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2014, 05:24:15 pm
content: I guess we all see it just like most Dilberts have a few deja vu moments.The saddest thing I see myself is that "the expert" is ranked and judged by those who don't have a *^%*% clue what he really does.So I see a lot of former "experts" babbling the same management mumbo jumbo and getting up in ranks while the real "experts" are stuck in the trenches. Or do you ever saw a company where a realy expert earns more then his mumbo jumbo mumbling boss?

author: Rory
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 29, 2014, 05:38:22 pm
content: "Stop wasting our time. This meeting is over."

author: JoeN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2014, 07:47:22 am
content: Almost half a million views so far and the vid is only a week old.

author: lapm
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2014, 09:39:27 am
content: Sadly this is more common then just tech companies. I work at brewery and this expert shit goes on there as well and results are not pretty. What i dont understand are higher ups really that dump they dont realise what a massive waste of time and money it is...

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2014, 09:50:21 am
content: Quote from: lapm on March 30, 2014, 09:39:27 amNope, actually they're pretty smart.Its all about moving the burden to someone else and its not them to blame should this turns bad at the end, that needs a lot of brain power and ingenuity, 'normal' people just don't have that kind of skill.

author: lemmegraphdat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2014, 11:55:11 am
content: You poor sods...I never knew.

author: David_AVD
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 30, 2014, 12:04:35 pm
content: LMFAO !That is not so far off some of my encounters with prospective clients.

author: Galenbo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2014, 12:03:33 am
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on March 29, 2014, 10:57:18 amThere are also people calling themselves specialist or generalists who do know nothing at all.

author: casinada
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2014, 12:12:36 am
content: The first definition also applies for a PhD

author: Tris20
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2014, 01:23:23 pm
content: This had me in stitches!

author: AndyC_772
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2014, 02:01:48 pm
content: I found it a bit close to the bone to be truly funny - a bit like some of the better Dilbert strips.

author: CaptnYellowShirt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2014, 06:33:53 pm
content: No joke:I was in a meeting where "conservation of energy" was brought up as a reason the plan wouldn't work. The higher level managers actually asked how much it would cost to solve this "conservation of energy" problem.

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2014, 10:47:40 pm
content: This is hilarious.

author: warp_foo
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 02, 2014, 03:14:22 am
content: I recall a conversation with the manager of our database group. She called a meeting to chew out the storage and Unix admins because running the DMX frames in synchronous mode was 'too slow'.We patiently explained that 120ms was pretty much the best round trip time given the distance between the data centers, and that the speed of light was out limiting factor. Run the frames asynchronously.After a short pause, she asked what technology we needed to buy to speed up the link...

author: CaptnYellowShirt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2014, 03:19:27 am
content: Quote from: warp_foo on April 02, 2014, 03:14:22 amMa'am, we can make best efforts to speed up your link for... say... $50,000?

author: Joule Thief
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2014, 05:59:12 am
content: Quote from: warp_foo on April 02, 2014, 03:14:22 amTry making the data transparent and send it again.Besides, we are talking data - what does that have to do with light ? right ?

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2014, 07:04:13 am
content: Quote from: warp_foo on April 02, 2014, 03:14:22 ama flux capacitor

author: CaptnYellowShirt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2014, 02:22:59 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on April 02, 2014, 07:04:13 amDon't forget the 1.21 gigawatts.... at $0.10/kw-h .... damn no wonder doc brown needed that plutonium.

author: Tex
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 02, 2014, 07:26:32 pm
content: Quote from: warp_foo on April 02, 2014, 03:14:22 amA very long drill bit and a whole 'lotta conduit!

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 02, 2014, 09:13:26 pm
content: I used to do IT consulting work. I got a gig as a systems architect overseeing the design/implementation of some data-driven website apps for the government.We'd meet with the client and get their needs and desires, then work out some broad structure and look/feel and meet with them again. Then we would have to meet with the IT division who would change everything - because they have a standard look and feel they want for applications. Then we had to meet with the ADA (Americans with Disabilities) people who would say "Ohh you can't have a green button there, green has a special meaning and should only be used for 'proceed now' instructions". Then we'd go back to the original customer who would be upset and insist on a lot of changes again.Round and round, endlessly. But they would never agree to a big central meeting, nor would anyone agree who had authority to have the final say. And the CIO who was the guy I reported to was such a wannabe politician that he was afraid to rebuff either the client, or the IT group, or the disabilities people.... so every request had to be accommodated, even those that were contradictory.I used to get really frustrated... but then I realized it was job security and it was wonderful billing them for 40-45 hours of work per week while we just treaded water. I felt bad for the taxpayers though (of which I was one!).

author: Tinkerer
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2014, 10:16:37 pm
content: Quote from: warp_foo on April 02, 2014, 03:14:22 amWhy is it that the people who dont pay attention in class ever get anywhere important?

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2014, 10:53:50 pm
content: While it's fun to mock management and marketing types who don't understand the field they're in it's not always the best thing to do. For one thing, as has been observed, they are often further up the corporate greasy pole than the engineer.The most productive thing is to work out what thebusinessproblem is and solve that, techies can be good at this - certainly better than a non-techie who has understood the business problem but then proposed a solution which ignores inconvenient issues such as total non-compliance with the laws of physics.Sometimes the actual problem to be solved can only be found many layers down.Then, of course, take the piss out of the management types as much as you like when you get to the pub