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author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 06:27:31 pm
content: Hi,I put in some data for a pcb i'm making and got a selection fo pricing that varied 3:1.. There are stainless steel stencil providers that start at just $10..I've not tryed the service yet, but I'm going to give it a try and see what happens.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 08:18:47 pm
content: Interestingly i cpmpared a board priced on PCBWAY it wsa $193 The same board ( same specs ) being made by All PCB using JDBPCB ws $148.51. pcbway is jdbpcb. Freigth costs from pcbway were 47 vs 20 on Allpcb. Its bizzare!The lowest cost boards came in at $118.07.THis could be a bit of a pot luck but there are some signficant savings if it is good.

author: rea5245
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 08:28:26 pm
content: What were the board specs you tried? What prices doesPCBShopper.comshow for those specs?- Bob

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 08:52:38 pm
content: 10 panels. Simple v-score.4 layer panel 190x125mm. Gold ENIG 1oz Copper red solder mask white silk screen. 5 day service.spacing 6/6 min hole size 0.3mm

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 08:57:32 pm
content: Quote from: rea5245 on February 15, 2017, 08:28:26 pmPCBshopper prices start $154.. Interesingly PCBWAY via pcbshopper says $198. So its got some small variations going on in there..

author: rea5245
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 09:10:12 pm
content: PCBWay charges a PayPal fee on top of its quoted price. PCBShopper factors this in, and that's why PCBWay's price on PCBShopper will look higher that PCBWay's price on their own website.Once you start going through the Check Out process at PCBWay, you'll see the price that PCBShopper quoted.- Bob

author: rea5245
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2017, 09:19:21 pm
content: I just did that search on Allpcb and the cheapest was $138. See attached image. Are my parameters different from yours?- Bob

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2017, 01:33:01 am
content: Quote from: rea5245 on February 15, 2017, 09:19:21 pmYes. mine was panelised.. And i allowed X-outs.. that will mean they will have less units that will fail.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2017, 06:32:21 am
content: Well after audit the price went DOWN!!! How crazy is that.This is what i ended up paying for 10 panels and a stencil. This is nuts. Its almost as cheap as photocopy paper.

author: neil t
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2017, 06:38:47 am
content: Quote from: mrpackethead on February 15, 2017, 06:27:31 pmI have had boards from them recently only a few small boards to test there service, I'm completely happy with the quality. the boards were done by jcbpcb.regards Neil

author: technotronix
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2017, 02:11:37 pm
content: I had pretty good experience with pcbways before few years.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2017, 06:29:31 pm
content: I've certainly had good experience with pcbway.com.. this allpcb.com has opened up a whole bunch of interesting opportunitys to access that same fab ( JCBPCB ) as well as some others who do some other specialist stuff.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2017, 10:16:42 pm
content: Interesting website and prices.how would you compare the different fabs?I was always satisfied with the price/result of elecrow (recently the assembly service, too) but I'm interested in boards with a fancier silkscreen for fancier prototypes

author: twiddle
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 17, 2017, 05:28:28 am
content: I posted a couple of pictures of a few orders I placed with different fabs via AllPCB here, for anybody interested:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/manufacture/really-cheap-pcb-fabs-chinese-fab-pcb-comparator/msg1114639/#msg1114639One of their fabs (HQPCB, pic in link above) has been doing Qty 10 100x100mm HASL boards for $5 for a while, too.

author: rea5245
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2017, 09:14:54 pm
content: Since people seem interested in AllPCB, I have added it to PCBShopper's price calculator.- Bob

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2017, 03:36:23 am
content: Quote from: twiddle on February 17, 2017, 05:28:28 amso basically those are those two used by elecrow for HASL and ENIG

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2017, 03:47:53 am
content: I think the closer you can get to the fab, ( cutting out middle men ) the better you'll get thigns.

author: twiddle
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2017, 05:46:09 am
content: Quote from: JPortici on February 20, 2017, 03:36:23 amCould you clarify this? Are you saying it based on them appearing to have the same quality? Or do you have some information regarding Elecrow's fabs that isn't commonly available?Just curious.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 20, 2017, 06:18:22 pm
content: i have made many boards with elecrow. many boards. based on what i've saw the soldermask tint, silkscreen accuracy and definition is exactly the same so i assume this.also the pricing is consistent.it's no news that most of these low cost pooling services actually subcontract the manufacture to other fabs. despite this, i still go to elecrow for customer service

author: ansonbao
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 10:51:06 am
content: Quote from: mrpackethead on February 15, 2017, 06:27:31 pmThis is Anson, manager of PCBWay,here I make a statement on behalf of PCBWay:Our factory has two production lines. One is for international line,with high quality standard which is for PCBWay only.Another one is for domestic production, with low quality standard.Many Chinese companies get boards from domestic line and sell to overseas.Any other platform who says we manufacture in the same factory with same quality are lying.

author: ansonbao
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 01:30:21 pm
content: Quote from: blueskull on February 15, 2017, 06:38:48 pmThis is Anson, manager of PCBWay,here I make a statement on behalf of PCBWay:Our factory has two production lines. One is for international line,with high quality standard which is for PCBWay only.Another one is for domestic production, with low quality standard.Many Chinese companies get boards from domestic line and sell to overseas.Any other platform who says we manufacture in the same factory with same quality are lying.If you have high quality boards need to make,hope you can give us a chance and we will not let you down.

author: ansonbao
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 01:33:00 pm
content: Quote from: technotronix on February 16, 2017, 02:11:37 pmThanks very much for your appreciate,this year we will work hard to offer better service.

author: richardlawson1489
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 02:06:24 pm
content: This is my second positive review for PCBway. They provide good quality product and price.

author: ansonbao
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2017, 02:46:59 pm
content: Quote from: richardlawson1489 on February 21, 2017, 02:06:24 pmthanks very much for your appreciate,we will work hard to develop better service.If you have any other suggestions,please tell to me

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 22, 2017, 12:58:55 am
content: Anson,(1) Is PCBWAY.com the web based platform that is owned by JCBPCB to primarly sell pcbs to the international market?(2) Does JCBPCB also own the web based platform allpcb.com?(3) What is the difference in quality between a 'International' board and a 'Chinese board'? In real terms?