I made a grave mistake! - Page 1
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author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 03:14:53 pm
content: Two grave mistakes, actually.I posted something to the TEA thread.And to the "what have you bought today" thread.Now I can't get rid of the notifications!They don't show up in the "Notification" list in my profile, I cannot "Unnotify" them and I keep seeing them in my "Updated Topics" list.How do I rid myself of those ghosts I summoned?

author: shakalnokturn
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 03:18:55 pm
content: I haven't experienced that myself, try looking for the posts in question, click on "modify" then "attachments and other options" and uncheck "notify me of replies"?

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 03:23:23 pm
content: I hate notifications on principle: their whole purpose is to interrupt me and distract me from what I ought to be doing. BasicallyI choosewhen to look at something, not when something burbles "look at me look at me".On this forum my technique is toclick the "Show new replies to your posts" link at the top left, read and deal with themclick the "Show unread posts since last visit", select and read the few that might be interesting

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 03:32:18 pm
content: I don't enable notifications either in general.(Just a thought: ghosts and "grave" mistakes? I thought Halloween was over...OK, sorry about that.)

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 03:36:16 pm
content: Delete those posts. Anyway soon they'll be forever lost in the middle of pile of comments nobody will bother to read.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 03:48:54 pm
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on November 25, 2019, 03:32:18 pmNo, a grave mistake is one that includes a `, and an acute mistake is one that includes an ´. I know this is true, because I have an accent.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 06:06:26 pm
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 03:14:53 pm1. Click “show new replies to my posts”.2. Select the checkboxes for the threads you want to ignore.3. Click “Ignore topics”.

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 07:45:02 pm
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on November 25, 2019, 03:32:18 pm

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 07:53:57 pm
content: Quote from: tooki on November 25, 2019, 06:06:26 pmThat's kind of "back asswards", no? It may be appropriate for those two particular threads. But will an ignored topic still show up in the unread posts? If not - not something that can be applied in general.Quote from: wraper on November 25, 2019, 03:36:16 pmYeah, again, appropriate for those two threads, not in general. Also, skimming through a high volume thread to find your own posts is tedious. Going through the posting history in your profile isn't much better as there's no search function there. This forum software really is kind of archaic, no?Quote from: shakalnokturn on November 25, 2019, 03:18:55 pmProbably the "best" solution, but even more tedious than just deleting the posts.Going without notifications - nope, not an option.

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 08:44:15 pm
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 07:53:57 pmYou can search for any text in any user's posts but you need to click the search button on the left instead of using the quick search box on the right.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 09:22:56 pm
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 07:53:57 pmClearly you don't understand what they do. Try clicking the links!

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 09:26:36 pm
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 07:53:57 pmEither usehttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/search/?advanced;search=and insert the relevant username, or use google.QuoteStrange how most of us manage.A bad workman blames the tools, and see the aphorism in my .sig

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 09:49:01 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on November 25, 2019, 09:26:36 pmEmphasis mine. I sure know a troll when I see one.Also, the advanced search doesn't let you search for just "any contribution by a user". You have to enter some keyword and no wildcards allowed. Neither convenient nor practical.

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 09:55:13 pm
content: Quote from: shakalnokturn on November 25, 2019, 03:18:55 pmI just tried that - "modify" will not let you edit the notification options...So, deleting your post seems to be the only option (apart from a global "ignore this thread") that will work.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 10:19:19 pm
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 07:53:57 pmSo... explainclearlywhat you want.The two threads you listed are ones many users ask how to hide from the "new replies" list, since they have so much traffic. And I've told you how to do that. So what do you want? You've told us what supposedly doesn't work, but you haven't actually stated what you want, and it's not what others in your situation have wanted.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 10:21:37 pm
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 09:49:01 pmHe's not trolling, what he said is absolutely correct.And while you're correct that the advanced search doesn't let you search for all of a user's posts, you don't need to search for that. Just click their name, and then on their profile summary, just click "show posts".

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 10:43:03 pm
content: Quote from: tooki on November 25, 2019, 10:21:37 pmI was referring to the "most" of "us", which puts me into a corner away from the "normal" people, who all get along without using notifications, like him. Which is, IMHO, bullshit. I seriously doubt "most" forum users don't use this feature. I called him a troll for that.Then, I know I can get a list of my own posts. It's, like, 15 odd pages long with no possibility to break it down by board or topic. That makes searching for a post long gone a tedious task. Advanced Search will allow me to limit the search space to certain boards at least, but not without giving a keyword to search for. So I'm no wiser than before.BTW, in my list of "new replies" I don't get a checkbox to "Ignore topic". I searched my forum setting but I cannot find an option that would make it appear...Quote from: tooki on November 25, 2019, 10:19:19 pmI'm looking for a solution to get these topics out of my "new replies" list, and only out of there. The "Ignore" option, as I read in the documentation, will also hide the topic from "show unread since last visit". This is _not_ what I want. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.EDIT: I just noticed that "Updated Topics", as I said in the opening post, is not something most users will be familiar with. It's the equivalent of "show new replies" when using the mobile theme. I realize that this was somewhat unclear. By bad. I use the mobile theme on my phone and the default theme on the laptop. I don't get the "Ignore topic" checkbox with either of them.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 25, 2019, 11:46:53 pm
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 10:43:03 pmHonestly, I don't think he was referring to a specific feature like notifications. But if he was, I agree, in that I don't think most users use any kind of notifications here, except for special threads where they expressly want to be notified.Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 10:43:03 pmFor what it's worth, the orange "NEW" buttons will show up for ignored threads in the forums themselves, so if you navigate to where they reside, you can still click the NEW button to see what's new to you.Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 10:43:03 pmQuote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 10:43:03 pmGo into the account theme settings (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=theme) and change "show quick moderation" (or whatever it's called) to checkboxes. (No idea why the default for this seems to vary for different people, IIRC. Either that or it must be manually set and I did it so long ago I forgot.)

author: eti
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 03:33:08 am
content: Quote from: tggzzz on November 25, 2019, 03:23:23 pmI see that sanity prevails in others, also. I have had a smartphone for about 7 years now, and for at least the last 4 or 5, I had it *permanently* silenced; I mean NO ringers, NO bloops or blurps, no dings, no rings, NO notifications, no vibrations... NOTHING, because someone ELSE'S "urgent" ain't MY "urgent".In addition, I have noticed, over the years, that the need to habitually grab my phone with its poppy, eye-catching primary colours (it's designed that way on purpose OF COURSE), as smokers do a cigarette, just for something to distract me, increasing to a point where my attention span became HUGELY impacted and fragmented, simply by the "fear of missing out" - scroll...scroll...scroll... through endless miles of utter drivel and hyperbole, nonsense on antisocial media, "news" sites, Google, etc etc.Well, for the last 5 days, I made a firm and conscious, calm decision to turn my phone off 23 hours and 50 mins per day MINIMUM (usually off all the time, for days, actually) and to leave it upstairs, festering and abandoned, with my growing disinterest towards it (thankfully) and my attention span, deep peace and ability to focus PROPERLY, fully restored to pre-smartphone state. It seems the whole world has gradually become deeper and deeper entrenched in this horse sh## modern western society, where people feel compelled to HAVE to be connected, for no sane reason, 247-365... and that's utter lunacy. In fact, this lunacy has become SO BAD, that lunatics are now happily handing over £1,000++ for A PHONE!Madness. Well, I am happy without mine, and may shortly sell it (Xiaomi RedMi Note 7) and a couple of others (Moto G7 Plus, and a load of others) and buy a Rigol 'scope and a arb func gen.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 04:00:48 am
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 10:43:03 pmSorry, but you are guilty of the same "assumption" of which you accuse others. You have no factual basis to make such a statement, so while you may disagree, going the extra step and labelling someone a troll is a step too far.I, for one, do not, have not and don't ever intend to use notifications. (I spend more than enough time here as it is.)

author: shakalnokturn
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 07:14:01 am
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 25, 2019, 09:55:13 pmFWIW it works for me, I used this topic to check:Had asked for notifications in my first contribution (to what now looks like yet another derailing subject), once I got the notification tggzzz had replied I came back and edited my post by only un-checking the notification box.Haven't been getting the hassle since.Maybe you need to uncheck on several posts in a same topic? (PITA I must say...)

author: beanflying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 07:50:04 am
content: What you are asking for is a change to the CORE functionality of SMF and not a simple setting that Dave can flick to enable you to ignore or remove the notification under "new replies to your posts". I am not aware of ANY mod that works in the current version to make this happen and hacking the core code is a very bad idea. This one is not ported to the current versionhttps://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1193This is not as a few above have suggested anything to do with SUBSCRIBED topics which is a user select feature to enable or disable for any topic REGARDLESS of if you have posted or not in.As to making a Grave mistake of posting in TEA

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 08:03:26 am
content: Quote from: shakalnokturn on November 26, 2019, 07:14:01 amI checked, there are none. And, please go back to the post you edited and check if the "notify me" box is really cleared. I had assumed it was, but each time I went back to the post it was checked on again.PITA, indeed. I'm glad it's not just me.

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 08:09:53 am
content: Quote from: Brumby on November 26, 2019, 04:00:48 amThe basis for the statement was the clearly antisocial pattern of isolating someone with a complaint or problem, ridiculing his concern. "You're holding it wrong!"

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 08:15:02 am
content: Most don't have a problem with this as their Profile settings are as follows:Profile>Modify Profile>Notifications:Turn notification on when you post or reply to a topic.When sending notification of a reply to a topic, send the post in the email (but please don't reply to these emails.)Both ^ are unselected.Further select these:For topics and boards I've requested notification on, notify me:Instantly- but only for the first unread reply.For topics and boards I've requested notification on, notify me of:Replies and moderation.SAVE SETTINGS !

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 08:32:21 am
content: Quote from: tooki on November 25, 2019, 11:46:53 pmThank you! That gets me the checkbox!I think my chief complaint is the complexity of notification options and the way they are spread out all over the place. The "Notification" screen in the profile covers onlytopicsyou explicitly select to be notified about. The "notify me for replies" is a completely separate functionality that can not be disabled other than by deleting the post (or I'm too dumb to edit the post to remove the checkbox).

author: shakalnokturn
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 09:02:12 am
content: Quote from: thinkfat on November 26, 2019, 08:03:26 amJust been back, "notify" box is still cleared in this case, and I'm not receiving notifications.You have actually saved modifications after un-checking box?As a second test I'm checking "notify" on this post. (So it will be edited sooner or later.)I'll also try re-checking "notify" on a previous post to be sure they all need clearing after...

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 09:30:04 am
content: Quote from: shakalnokturn on November 26, 2019, 09:02:12 amI tried again with my reply #25, no workee... I uncheck the "notify me" box, "Save", and when I edit the post afterwards the box is checked again. Weird.

author: shakalnokturn
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 09:46:50 am
content: The way it works for me on this topic is: "notify" on any post checks "notify" on all my other posts of the topic, likewise for clearing "notify".I dare not give it a try in the TEA thread from fear of being stuck in your situation, next I'll be having nightmares of dragons and papa smurfs...Have you tried logging off, clearing browser cache, cookies stuff like that? I'd at least try re-logging...

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 26, 2019, 04:06:48 pm
content: Quote from: eti on November 26, 2019, 03:33:08 amI trained myself by deliberately using an old clamshell phone for about a decade. When I switched to a smartphone a few years ago, I had zero need for anything else but a basic phone and a browser (for local bus, train, and metro timetables and public transport travel planner, which happens to be excellent here, and very useful because I use public transport exclusively). I do not have anything personal installed on the thing, especially not email.When I go for a walk in the nearby park, or go grocery shopping, that thing ain't coming with me.On the other hand, I've never had any kind of interest or urge to be on social media like Twatter, Fakebook, Instagrand, or such.When I was younger, before the turn of the century, having grown up in the frozen wastelands of the far north where one went to the local library for information, and recently gained access to the scientific knowledge and research from all around the world, I did use to be afraid of falling behind. The sphere of human activity is so large that the daily advancements in knowledge seemed to indicate an inhuman rate of expansion of that sphere.. but it isn't. If you have true understanding (as opposed to memorization), and stay out of your field for a few years, all you need is a few weeks to completely catch up. The boundary is large and therefore the volume expansion rate is utterly amazing, but in any single field, the boundary is nothing you cannot catch up to even at a leisurely pace.What changes at a hard-to-understand rate, is human opinion and politics. But, once you accept being plain ol' yourself and drop the need to go with the apparent flow, even that is not at all important, just feels silly. My point is, there is no need to fear of falling behind, and no need to be continuously "connected". Much better to be yourself and stop to smell the flowers once in a while. I only wish somebody had told me this when I was younger.

author: eti
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2019, 02:55:00 am
content: Quote from: Nominal Animal on November 26, 2019, 04:06:48 pmI find lots of wisdom in your sentiments, and I agree whole-heartedly. Ecclesiastes seems to sum up the ever-present tail-chasing arrogance and need to be seen as "innovating" of the human race; it can come across as a little gloomy, but when you sit back and ponder over the simplicity of how it's expressed, it is UTTERLY true:Ecclesiastes 3: 1-11:"3 What do people gain from all their laborsat which they toil under the sun?4 Generations come and generations go,but the earth remains forever.5 The sun rises and the sun sets,and hurries back to where it rises.6 The wind blows to the southand turns to the north;round and round it goes,ever returning on its course.7 All streams flow into the sea,yet the sea is never full.To the place the streams come from,there they return again.8 All things are wearisome,more than one can say.The eye never has enough of seeing,nor the ear its fill of hearing.9 What has been will be again,what has been done will be done again;there is nothing new under the sun.10 Is there anything of which one can say,“Look! This is something new”?It was here already, long ago;it was here before our time.11 No one remembers the former generations,and even those yet to comewill not be rememberedby those who follow them."SO many people assume we are "high tech" and have "advanced" by huge leaps and bounds, and what I say in reply is... er, nope. A few things have improved significantly, but stand back and look at the bigger picture, how humanity STILL gravitates to selfishness and stupidity by default, how we STILL burn things to make steam to turn a propellor for most of our power, how some people STILL suck on smoking bundles of dried, shredded leaves, and drink poison as "recreation". What, I feel, is one of the many indicators that we are NOWHERE NEAR as remotely "advanced" as we think we are, is the fact that we THINK it, and that many crow about it, no end.We are not "advanced" when you consider that we still need to use robots and PCs to "design" & build junk which behaves WORSE, and lasts FAR less time than things build thousands of years ago, which are still working, and have lasted all that time. We STILL can't work out how the pyramids were constructed (and no "theories" count for a thing; when something is obvious, a "theory" isn't needed, and since it ISN'T obvious, we can't be as "advanced" as we foolishly assume.)

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2019, 04:10:50 pm
content: Quote from: eti on November 27, 2019, 02:55:00 amPlease do not bring religion (or politics) into this forum. Many people find it offensive, and the mods come down on itveryhard.

author: eti
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2019, 04:44:33 pm
content: Quote from: eti on November 27, 2019, 02:55:00 amOkay. So long as you remember these same rules when anyone mentions ANYTHING about the religion of "evolution" or "flat earth". I'll abide by your rules, no issues.

author: shakalnokturn
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2019, 05:35:57 pm
content: Yep, dog help usa unsubscribe from the tea topic!

author: thinkfat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 27, 2019, 07:26:24 pm
content: Great. I tried to get rid of a ghost, now I have summoned another one. Woe me...

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 27, 2019, 09:27:24 pm
content: Quote from: eti on November 27, 2019, 02:55:00 amOh boy, this old “just a theory” crap... please go learn what a scientific theory is. It’s NOT the same as a colloquial “theory” (which in science-talk is a “hypothesis”). A scientific theory is a tiny step removed from a “law”: essentially beyond question.