Fascinating youtube vid on vintage technology - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: unknownparticle
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 31, 2023, 09:01:35 pm
content: Quite incredible for the time

author: ebastler
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timestamp: April 01, 2023, 07:40:38 am
content: This has come up a few times before:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/automated-electronics-assembly-1940_s-style/msg162523/#msg162523https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/who-loves-old-tech/msg679145/#msg679145https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/melting-solder-in-a-pot/msg3549894/#msg3549894https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/(article)-solder-less-circuits-(apparently)/msg4564624/#msg4564624As a general plea: Could we please make it forum etiquette to give a brief summary of what the video is about (beyond "it's amazing!") when posting a Youtube link? In this case I knew what to expect since I had seen the video before. But in general, I dislike having to spend time on a video only to figure out whether it is of interest to me. Thanks!

author: tooki
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timestamp: April 01, 2023, 12:25:20 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on April 01, 2023, 07:40:38 am+1

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2023, 02:06:31 pm
content: Quote from: tooki on April 01, 2023, 12:25:20 pm+2Given that 99.9% of yootoob vids are talking heads with lots of ums and ahs and content that could be summed up in 25 words, there's approximately zero chance I'm going to spend my little remaining life looking at a random vid.Do they still teach "précis" at school? Maybe yoootooob talking heads were asleep?

author: mendip_discovery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2023, 02:39:15 pm
content: I flicked on the haunted fish tank and took a look at the selection of documentaries and I found nothing of interst and the one I did try was another one of those not a lot of content spread of 1hr. I made the mistake of starting a documentary about the McD scandal about the Monopoly winners. That was 5 or 6 hrs of TV that really felt like it was dragged out as much as they could.For a while YT was nice as there was informative stuff out there. But the algorithm seems to be pushing lots of crap. Some YTers have got into the habit of being as bad as the documentaries on TV.I miss the documentaries we used to watch as a kid. I wish there was more stuff by people like Adam Heart-Davies as the stuff he did back in the 2000s was interesting a informative.Oh +1 on supplying a little more than just a link to a vid with the comment cool vid.

author: tggzzz
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timestamp: April 01, 2023, 03:09:50 pm
content: Quote from: mendip_discovery on April 01, 2023, 02:39:15 pmThere was a good old-skool documentary on the BBC last week. Good: short, to the point, well structured, with one or two memorable bits. Unsurprisingly it was by Peter Taylor, a journalist I've long respected.https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001kl8pand it is still on iPlayer. I've omitted the title to avoid distracting this thread, but it is visible by following that link.

author: unknownparticle
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2023, 02:06:31 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on April 01, 2023, 07:40:38 amIn that case you're going to miss some very interesting stuff!

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2023, 02:15:29 pm
content: Quote from: unknownparticle on April 02, 2023, 02:06:31 pmTrue.But the issue is that there's farfarfarmore boring stuff that might just be interesting - but turns out to have crap content or presentation. It is a matter of how to spend your remaining life: looking at 999 crap vids to find one interesting one, or doing something else.There are many reasons that the concept of the "30s elevator talk" is a meme. One is relevant here

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 02, 2023, 02:22:40 pm
content: Quote from: unknownparticle on April 02, 2023, 02:06:31 pmSure, you can choose to come back with a snappish reply. Or you might put in the tiny bit of effort and write a single descriptive sentence of that interesting video you found, for the benefit of dozens or hundreds of viewers of your post.

author: unknownparticle
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timestamp: April 02, 2023, 08:36:26 pm
content: Well there is a descriptive title on the video

author: tggzzz
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timestamp: April 02, 2023, 10:29:14 pm
content: Quote from: ebastler on April 02, 2023, 02:22:40 pmYes. I regard that as courtesy for the reader.If someone can't be bothered to take 30s indicatingwhysomething might be interesting, why should I be bothered to listen to them.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2023, 01:06:32 am
content: Quote from: unknownparticle on April 02, 2023, 08:36:26 pmIt would be better, to write a nice summary, of what makes it interesting for you and perhaps others. Then others (perhaps hundreds of others), can quickly glance at the summary, and decide for themselves, if it sounds potentially interesting or not.Rather than having to try and second guess what exactly it is about, from a very brief title or recommendation from a user on this forum, they may know very little or nothing about.E.g.Interesting documentary (for me, even though I've already seen it, at least once, a fairly long while ago) video. Which seems to be about an amazing production line machine, made/designed and built from very early 1940's technology, at around 1947.Which seems to basically be a number of analogue (or similar) computer (elements or more). Which improve/control the process. Which makes these (what are similar to thin-film or other types of tiles/assemblies etc).I.e. A sort of PCB (very early), but with films/coatings/chemicals etc, to make things like resistors, capacitors, inductors (I'm not sure of the exact list of component types) and valve/tube sockets, etc.To effectively make a module, which is most of a full radio (of that time period), which just needs a few valves/tubes to be plugged into it, and the rest of the assembly. To make what amounts to a mass produced device, such as a radio.Presumably, that creates lots of cost savings, allows much higher production unit rates (quantities), and with much less labour (costs).It seems clever, for that time period (1940's).

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2023, 01:10:00 am
content: Using ChatGPT, to summarize the latter part of what I just said:Quote

author: Ed.Kloonk
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timestamp: April 03, 2023, 01:23:56 am
content: Quote from: tggzzz on April 01, 2023, 02:06:31 pmI sat and watched 2m20s from some youtuber re-phrasing what was printed in the thumbnail and the title. That, to me, is truly 'amazing'.And then, to add insult to injury.. "But first, lemme tell you about today's sponsor"

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2023, 03:04:49 am
content: My favorite part, at 12:50 approx. they show a big rotary switch, doing some 50 different point to point continuity checks. Awesome.Yeah, it's black and white video, maybe a bit nerdy...but I appreciated watching the details, (several times). Thanks, UnknownParticle !Never have seen a board sized integration, like that, with a lot of the spirit that happened with the wafer oriented integrated circuits...and even hybrids.

author: unknownparticle
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timestamp: April 03, 2023, 03:40:40 pm
content: Quote from: MK14 on April 03, 2023, 01:06:32 amPerhaps I overestimated the level of curiosity that would exist here, but no problem I will refrain from bothering with such posts in future.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2023, 04:38:57 pm
content: Quote from: unknownparticle link=topic=371360.msg4793843#msg4793843Not everyone, is going to have the time and inclination, to watch potentially long youtube videos, just because people here, have linked to them.So, some kind of summary, about the video and why, it seems interesting, is a useful thing, to add, to a post with a link to it.

author: RJSV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2023, 04:41:22 pm
content: OR, you could try compromise, between the feedback, and just put a cursory couple of sentences briefly, as some of the feedback is intended towards others who post vids without any intro,...so they are maybe just frustrated...Been this way, here. I've gotten a bunch of justified criticism. Puppies and Humans play a little rough, often. Thanks for the video posting.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2023, 05:08:19 pm
content: Source (paywalled):https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg17623656-200-the-chunkiest-chip/More information about the production machine (to read the rest, seems to need a paid subscription):Quote

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 03, 2023, 05:18:07 pm
content: If anyone would prefer to be able to read about the video in text/article form, or is interested, in an apparently detailed article about it, complete with pictures. Here is the link:http://www.r-type.org/articles/art-098.htm