Handheld oscilloscope for automotive and general testing - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: k.valentino
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2018, 08:06:34 am
content: Hi,Please recommend me some handheld oscilloscope! My budget ismax 1000€!I look at the following models:HandshiHantek DSO1152S(isolated)Micsig TO1102orMicsig TO1104Siglent SHS810P.S. I'm sure that the old Tektronics THS7xx models are very good but I don’t want to buy 20 year used device from eBay without any warranty of proper operation

author: targit
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2018, 10:27:01 am
content: I use the TO1072 for automotive jobs, good battery life and the touchscreen is easy to use, I had a few little problems with the charge socket but nothing that would make me go back to my old fluke unit, the display is bright and easy to read in the workshop and outdoors. You will probably want to invest in some more robust probes though (I use the ones from my Fluke 99).

author: BillB
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 11, 2018, 12:28:22 pm
content: Which features do you require? How many channels? Bandwidth?I've got the Siglent SHS806 (Hacked up to an SHS815), and it's OK, but it's UI is old and it doesn't have near the capabilities of the TO1104.

author: k.valentino
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2018, 10:59:41 pm
content: Quote from: BillB on September 11, 2018, 12:28:22 pmminimum 2 chanels and 100MHzPlease send me the hack manual for Siglent SHS806, I'm interested in this model.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2018, 11:02:55 pm
content: Quote from: k.valentino on September 11, 2018, 10:59:41 pmOutlined here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sdg5000-shs800-upgrade-search/

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 12, 2018, 03:04:36 pm
content: From what I've seen from handheld scopes the MicSig TO1104 is probably the best suitable for general testing. It has all the features you find on a bench scope. Typically hand held scopes don't have many features because for their target audience they have to be simple to operate.

author: k.valentino
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2018, 09:51:03 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on September 12, 2018, 03:04:36 pmYes, I think to buy MicSig TO1102 or TO1104, but I don't see to sell only batteries for them (after years of use it will need a new battery). Or how to hack this battery(it seems that it has protection and integrated charger).By the way, exist hack update from MicSig TO1072 to TO1104?

author: k.valentino
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2018, 10:29:39 pm
content: Quote from: k.valentino on September 19, 2018, 09:51:03 pmNo one knows anything about that?

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2018, 10:36:47 pm
content: Better ask MicSig about service and spare parts.

author: maginnovision
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2018, 10:49:12 pm
content: While working for BMW I mostly used a fluke 2 channel handheld. Today I'd probably still choose a fluke. Despite the micsig probably being better, I recall it having capacitive touch. That reason alone I'd go with the siglent or hantek. With siglent you're likely to get better support so I would have to go with that.Actually 1 caveat... If it isn't primarily for automotive work get the micsig.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2018, 11:22:22 pm
content: Quote from: maginnovision on September 24, 2018, 10:49:12 pmSiglent and support? AFAIK the Siglent handheld scopes aren't exactly high on Siglent's bug fix TODO list. The MicSig TO1000 series OTOH works so where would you need support for? Besides that a forum member had a faulty battery in his/her MicSig scope and that got fixed for free as far as I can tell.

author: maginnovision
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2018, 12:38:03 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on September 24, 2018, 11:22:22 pmBetween Hantek and Siglent, I choose Siglent for support. I doubt either manufacturer will do much for you for bugs, warranty issues though are support you might need. The MicSig I would not want as my primary scope for working in a real automotive environment just because of the interface. My dad has one and it's a great scope but screens aren't the interface of choice in that world. When you do find touch screen stuff it's typically resistive for a reason.

author: k.valentino
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2018, 08:39:36 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on September 24, 2018, 10:36:47 pmI already asked MicSig, but they did not answer me!Batronix replied: "Unfortunately we do not offer the battery seperat. Only already buildt in."

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2018, 09:07:52 am
content: Quote from: k.valentino on September 25, 2018, 08:39:36 amDid you ask Batronix for a battery or did you ask them 'what happens if the battery goes bad'? These are very different questions.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2018, 09:56:33 am
content: Quote from: k.valentino on September 25, 2018, 08:39:36 amYeah that's the problem with some gear so you'd better be sure you choose the right one.Unlike for the Siglent SHS models:https://www.siglentamerica.com/accessory/shs-bat/

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2018, 10:37:35 am
content: Quote from: k.valentino on September 25, 2018, 08:39:36 amSome Googling revealed you can buy the batteries seperately:http://www.nkcelectronics.com/Micsig-tBook-mini-Oscilloscope-replacement-Battery_p_636.htmlBut like with car parts you have to realise that a part which is hard to get usually isn't very likely to fail. It doesn't make sense to keep it in stock because nobody buys it.

author: k.valentino
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 25, 2018, 08:39:45 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on September 25, 2018, 09:07:52 amI asked them if they sell batteries and their price.

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 28, 2018, 01:05:57 am
content: Quote from: k.valentino on September 25, 2018, 08:39:36 amcan you email to sales@micsig.com or tell me your email. we have some distributors who sell battery in Europe, they can buy it from them.

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 28, 2018, 01:07:06 am
content: Quote from: k.valentino on September 11, 2018, 08:06:34 amTell you a good news that, micsig will have a new model for automotive diagnostic function in tablet oscilloscope,pls email sales@micsig.com to get it.

author: maginnovision
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 28, 2018, 06:44:28 am
content: Quote from: Micsig_support on September 28, 2018, 01:07:06 amNew model or a new function? I tried to get the beta functions for my dads since I occasionally help him with diag when I see him but never did.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 28, 2018, 09:05:32 am
content: Also take a look at the older Tektronix THS720P and similar.You can get them used for a great price and they work very well as an automotive scope.

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 29, 2018, 08:50:53 am
content: Quote from: maginnovision on September 28, 2018, 06:44:28 amnew model. but for old customers, in the beginning, we can send them free. You know, Micsig like to send free functions in the beginning, like TO1104 bus decoding.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 29, 2018, 06:00:56 pm
content: What are the automotive specific modes that your new scope has? Is there a manual available on-line for it?

author: k.valentino
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 01, 2018, 09:31:28 pm
content: Quote from: Micsig_support on September 28, 2018, 01:05:57 amHiMicsig_support, I already asked MicSig (with email to sales@micsig.com of date 21/09/2018), but they did not answer me!I send you my email address by PM!Please tell me about the Micsig distributors who sell oscilloscopes and battery in Europe!Quote from: Micsig_support on September 28, 2018, 01:07:06 amTell me more about this new model!

author: I4E
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2018, 10:11:07 pm
content: We are proud to be Micsig Distributors.We are located in the UK. Below is a link to our website. We only have the Micsig TO1104 listed on the website at the moment but we carry the whole range.Sincerely,Joy TorresInstruments 4 Engineers LtdTel +44 (0) 161 871 7450sales@instruments4engineers.comwww.instruments4engineers.comhttp://www.instruments4engineers.com/micsig-to1104-100mhz-tablet-oscilloscope-micsig-distributor

author: Smittytec
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 06, 2018, 12:16:28 am
content: I recently purchased a Hantek DSO1000E Series and while it was a great price and it seems well built, the software is very buggy (frequent rebooting, slow response and persistent video overlay bugs) and forget about manufacturer tech support. It would not pass self calibration and the upgrading to the latest firmware (2016) only seemed to make things worse. I didn't receive a reply from two emails after a week but I did receive a brief reply on their forum.Luckily I purchased it from a US supplier so I have the option to return it and probably go with another brand.

author: Micsig_support
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2019, 03:17:30 am
content: Micsig Automotive oscilloscope is ok to sell now. the models is ATO1000 series. it has 2 channel and 4 channels.

author: maginnovision
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 23, 2019, 05:21:51 am
content: Automotive specific and no capacitive pickups?

author: k.valentino
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 16, 2019, 10:50:16 am
content: I'm already the owner of the Micsig TO1104 oscilloscope, I like it.Thanks everyone for the recommendations!!!