CE stands for China Export - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Maxlor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 10:30:16 pm
content: Came accross this while browsing, thought I'd share:QuoteHere's the link to thefull article.Buyer beware!

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 10:33:10 pm
content: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_markingis the full article actually.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 10:38:20 pm
content: What? I just like that icon.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2014, 11:37:16 pm
content: Congratulations, you too have been deceived by the myth-machine that is the internet. Please feel stupid for a bit.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:05:32 am
content: Indeed. It doesn't matter how you print the symbol on it (mirrored, upside-down, reversed, your own fantasy font, big small, packman, etc). As a manufacturer you are responsible for your products.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:06:37 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on January 06, 2014, 12:05:32 amI think you may have the wrong end of the stick there, or one of us has the wrong stick, or maybe there is no stick?

author: liquibyte
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:29:48 am
content: There is no spoon. Oh, fork it!

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:32:49 am
content: Quote from: Lurch on January 06, 2014, 12:06:37 amAsk a lawyer whether not putting a CE logo on your product makes you any less responsible for it.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:35:13 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on January 06, 2014, 12:32:49 amYep, definitely a stick related issue.

author: Maxlor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:39:38 am
content: Quote from: Monkeh on January 05, 2014, 11:37:16 pmI feel plenty stupid already, what with dabbling in a field (EE) I don't know much about. To change that is why I'm here in the first place.As for manufacturers responsibilities... if they can't even get the markings right, I'll make some educated guesses about the effort they went to with the self-certification procedure.

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:42:24 am
content: Quote from: Maxlor on January 06, 2014, 12:39:38 amTBF, the whole CE/ISO certification thing that everyone is so obsessed with is pretty much completely pointless anyway so it doesn't really matter in the long run.

author: Len
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timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:53:46 am
content: Quote from: Maxlor on January 05, 2014, 10:30:16 pmWhat's the Latin for "Wikipedia reader beware"? Caveat wikitor?

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 12:54:35 am
content: Quote from: Len on January 06, 2014, 12:53:46 amGullible.

author: Polossatik
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timestamp: January 06, 2014, 01:08:58 am
content: Quote from: Len on January 06, 2014, 12:53:46 ami wished i could up vote this. nice one.

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 01:40:18 am
content: See this thread:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/deadly-insane-design-(cif-ft-02-reflow-oven)-teardown-rant-safety-fix/msg336827/#msg336827The short version is that CE does not stand for China Export, that's just an urban myth.Differences in the CE marking from what the dimensions "should be" are just the graphic design team being slack (or thinking they know better, or don't care).Even "legitimate" CE marks are to a very large extent meaningless, because it's the manufacturer that determines if their own products stand up to the CE requirements, it's not independently assessed.

author: Maxlor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 02:40:02 am
content: Quote from: sleemanj on January 06, 2014, 01:40:18 amReally, that part was tongue-in-cheek. I guess I should have used smileys before:Quote from: sleemanj on January 06, 2014, 01:40:18 amWell, imo that's one aspect of product design where you can't be slack. If you are, it says something about the rest of your design. Besides, I have the feeling there's a bit more to it. There has to be a reason that the markings are never replicated exactly on counterfeit products, for example on all those apple chargers. It must give the guys doing it some slight advantage, otherwise, why not copy those to the letter. Having a varying CE logo probably makes enforcement slightly harder.Quote from: sleemanj on January 06, 2014, 01:40:18 amVery unfortunate, that

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 09:08:41 am
content: When a product is manufactured outside the EU, it is the importer that is responsible for product liability issues.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 04:13:41 pm
content: If you look through your own home you'll probably find a product from an A-brand with an incorrect CE logo.

author: jolshefsky
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2014, 06:10:54 pm
content: Maybe we can shave a bit with Occam's Razor (and at least have a terrible mixed metaphor/pun to attack this author ...)I have a feelingsomeChinese designers copy what they think people expect to see on products. If it happens to be a logo indicating standards conformance, oh well.As such, you'll find UL and CE logos on products that would never ever pass the most rudimentary standards either organization uses. For example, see Dave's(even though it doesn't sport such a logo ... I'm sure there are ones that do ... especially on the outer packaging ... I'm just sure of it ...)I had heard the "Chinese Export" theory and let it live in my brain but on second thought, it does seem a bit silly. Like the country named USA (that's not the United States of America) to trick people when they read "Made in USA." First stop:Wikipedia's USA (disambiguation)—no country named USA outright.