Identity of the mouser, digikey, arrow? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: MasterT
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 11:14:48 am
content: For a few years I observed, that my connection to aliexpress does not reach china marketing monster itself, but getting14.|-- ae4.sentinel-ewr2.netarch.akamai.com 0.0% 10 32.9 59.8 21.8 324.0 93.015.|-- a23-10-91-241.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com 0.0% 10 144.5 72.6 20.5 157.9 62.0as end point of communication.Have no idea what akamai is it, and how price policy would be modified by unknown proxy-mafia.Same issue apply to:768 mtr --report-wide --report-cycles 10www.aliexpress.com> a_ali.txt769 mtr --report-wide --report-cycles 10www.amazon.ca> a_amazon.txt770 mtr --report-wide --report-cycles 10www.arrow.com> a_arrow.txt771 mtr --report-wide --report-cycles 10www.digikey.ca> a_digikey.txt772 mtr --report-wide --report-cycles 10www.ebay.ca> a_ebay.txt773 mtr --report-wide --report-cycles 10www.mouser.ca> a_mouser.txtSo, the question is, how do you know that actually you are getting electronics components from authorize dealer like Mouser or Digikey?Is it country specific reality (Canada in this case) or world-wide scale scam?

author: Yansi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 11:18:15 am
content: So whats wrong with that? Even this forum I think uses some cloud for fast providing of cached content.

author: JohnnyMalaria
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 11:44:05 am
content: Quote from: MasterT on January 30, 2021, 11:14:48 amhttps://www.akamai.com/Am I really on EEVBlog?Code:C:\Users\john>tracert eevblog.comTracing route to eevblog.com [192.154.109.3]over a maximum of 30 hops:12 65 ms 66 ms 66 ms webnx-inc.10gigabitethernet1-1-9.switch1.slc1.he.net [64.71.130.42]13 68 ms 68 ms 67 ms 104-250-156-90.static.gorillaservers.com [104.250.156.90]14 70 ms 69 ms 67 ms 192-154-109-3.static.gorillaservers.com [192.154.109.3]

author: Siwastaja
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 12:38:05 pm
content: You know that it makes zero sense for a businesses selling electronic components to specialize on information technology architecture?It's obvious such services are outsourced.ISPs also outsource services.A quick googling would reveal what Akamai Technologies Inc. does.

author: MasterT
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 04:32:31 pm
content: Quote from: Siwastaja on January 30, 2021, 12:38:05 pmI'm too lazy to google. I want a print notice on the mouser / digikey / arrow web site about third party involvement into businesses. And their legal responsibility.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 04:46:26 pm
content: Quote from: MasterT on January 30, 2021, 04:32:31 pmYou want a disclosure notice informing you of the details of how the internet works?

author: MasterT
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 05:15:12 pm
content: Quote from: bdunham7 on January 30, 2021, 04:46:26 pmBS. it's not about internet. There is another name - NGINX reverse proxy . Google it

author: JohnnyMalaria
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 05:28:13 pm
content: Don't buy from them then. I'm sure they won't mind.

author: nuclearcat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 05:28:49 pm
content: Quote from: MasterT on January 30, 2021, 11:14:48 amIts better to do analysis on subject you know.Internet infrastructure complex thing, especially CDN offloading, DDoS-protection and etc, and making any conclusions just on mtr/traceroute will sound like 5G scaremongering at best.mtr alone reliably can help only to troubleshoot SOME ipv4 connectivity issues and might help with some routing/packetloss issues. Other analysis is way more complex.

author: JohnnyMalaria
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 05:32:46 pm
content: Quote from: MasterT on January 30, 2021, 11:14:48 amGo to the SEC website, look up their filings, found out who the registered agent is, call them, get the official customer support phone number (hey, the one on the website could be a scam) and phone them up to confirm your order.Also, check to see where your shipment arrives from. I doubt a scammer is going to deliberately send all their fake Mouser stuff from Texas and lie to the shipping agent about who they are so the label says Mouser. And certainly not upgrade you to overnight shipping for free.Lordy, anyone know a trustworthy tinfoil milliner?

author: MasterT
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 06:34:12 pm
content: Quote from: nuclearcat on January 30, 2021, 05:28:49 pmGood to know. Would you mind to run mtr or trace from your side, see if you have direct connection? W/o telling all this bla-la-la. I was expecting someone does this routing probe w/o me asking. But the best response I've got is no human logic in the thread.

author: JohnnyMalaria
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 06:41:09 pm
content: MouserCode:11 22 ms 23 ms 29 ms po110.bs-b.sech-lga.netarch.akamai.com [23.57.97.245]12 * * * Request timed out.13 27 ms 23 ms 30 ms ae121.access-a.sech-lga.netarch.akamai.com [23.57.97.251]14 23 ms 27 ms 29 ms 93.191.172.146DigikeyCode:14 56 ms 53 ms 54 ms cr82.mpsmn.ip.att.net [12.122.153.65]15 50 ms 61 ms 56 ms 12.122.162.16516 59 ms 61 ms 57 ms 12.87.125.9417 * * * Request timed out.18 58 ms 63 ms 63 ms 204.221.76.76WalmartCode:10 32 ms 32 ms 35 ms ae-15-210.pr0.lax10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.9.5]11 * * * Request timed out.12 68 ms 73 ms 68 ms ae18.cs2.lga5.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.25.58]13 * * * Request timed out.14 71 ms 83 ms 72 ms ae5.cs2.den5.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.29.216]15 79 ms 73 ms 76 ms ae4.mpr2.den1.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.24.85]16 * * * Request timed out.zayo.com: "Zayo provides mission-critical bandwidth to the world’s most impactful companies, fueling the innovations that are transforming our society."

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 06:55:43 pm
content: QuoteAnd what do you think HTTPS and SSL certificate is for?QuoteDescription of one of the most hated type of bastards on internet.

author: nuclearcat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 08:11:40 pm
content: Quote from: MasterT on January 30, 2021, 06:34:12 pmI'm network engineer and using mtr and similar tools daily, and know perfectly well how it all works. And how CDN works.1)At moment you got a soldering iron in your hands, you have no idea what it is, using it as a hammer, refusing to learn, and demanding me to do same. Lol for that.For example, this soldering iron has a cool wire that you can plug into an outlet.In order to get traceroute results from different locations, you can use such a tool as looking glass, and stop wasting people time with illiterate conclusions.2)Your conclusions sound the same silly if you looked to purchased arduino, saw the Atmel logo on the MCU and started shouting that this is not an Arduino. And then you turn it over and saw FT232 and were generally horrified to write it on forum and ask others to look to this scary manuscripts on arduinos, if they got original arduino ICs.3)Stop your "bla-bla", as you wrote above, if you dont want to become forum laughing stock.Stop using soldering iron as a hammer. Read books first, how to use it and when to use it.

author: nuclearcat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 08:35:05 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on January 30, 2021, 06:55:43 pmEven HTTPS certificates might be tricky. You need to make sure there is no additional dash, or some similar, but other language letters.And in very rare cases rogue CA might be a problem, like this very recent one:https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-bans-another-misbehaving-ca-from-chrome/

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 09:08:11 pm
content: Quote from: nuclearcat on January 30, 2021, 08:35:05 pmIt's not like it's rogue. Just incompetent.

author: nuclearcat
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 09:26:46 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on January 30, 2021, 09:08:11 pmThis particular one - mostly yes, except their suspicious deals with StartCom.

author: sleemanj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 10:30:10 pm
content: Quote from: MasterTWould you like a big notice on EEVBlog that in using EEVBlog you are using servers owned by Gorilla Servers?What about on every site that uses AWS that you are using Amazon services and hardware and Amazon could access your data?What about on every site that uses CloudFlare that your data is being passed through CloudFlare's proxy?Maybe every site you visit you should be presented long list of all the hardware and service operators that your bits are passing through. I'm sure that'd be totally useful.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2021, 11:57:23 pm
content: Just about any commercial site you go to on the internet your browser will send data back and forth with multiple other sites without you ever knowing. Set up a browser with NoScript and uBlock Origin and have a look. A site like Newegg is actually not too bad, Amazon is even better. But if you go to any "old media" sites, such as newspapers, radio or TV stations, prepare to be traumatized.(click for bigger)

author: MasterT
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 12:22:51 am
content: Quote from: JohnnyMalaria on January 30, 2021, 06:41:09 pmThanks, I see digikey 204.221.76.76 is on direct line.I was monitoring this for a while, arrow was the last one intercepted by akamai. The problem I see with mouser - long 15-20 sec page loading. Each navigation step tooks 20 or more seconds. Before everything was flying, so it is not improving service, akamai I mean.Quote from: wraper on January 30, 2021, 06:55:43 pmI'm talking about END point, so SSL and HTTPS is out of the scope.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 12:29:31 am
content: View security certificate in your browser.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 12:29:48 am
content: Quote from: MasterT on January 31, 2021, 12:22:51 amYou are talking uneducated nonsense as far as I'm aware.

author: MasterT
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 03:19:54 am
content: What I don't understand, that why akamai-technology is using https/ ssl certificate (seems right one) issued for Mouser?Here is example. Mister A was stopped on a high-way by police patrol car. For drive license request, mister A presents legal drive license with the name of mister B ( no fake, no theft crime, right license to drive a vehicle on a high way).The problem only, law demands mister A to show a license with his own name on it. Doesn't matter if document correct or not, if mister A is not drunk and have his own legal license somewhere.All peaces of a puzzle may be correct, Mouser has legal certificate for encryption HTTPS. And Akamai could be law respecting legitimate business.What wrong, when akamai show document issued for another third party. IP end address is akamai, license must be with the same name. If I communicate with a Mouser, certificate must be for a Mouser AND end point (IP address ) must belong to a Mouser. Other-ways identity institution doesn't make any sense. Mister A would show drive license mister B, Madam D would bring a passport madam F to the airline registration desk, etc.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 03:21:45 am
content: Quote from: MasterT on January 31, 2021, 03:19:54 amBecause they are acting on behalf of Mouser. The rest of your waffle is entirely irrelevant.

author: MasterT
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 03:24:11 am
content: Quote from: Monkeh on January 31, 2021, 03:21:45 amBS. You are saying, if you have negotiated with your neighbors to borrow a license, it is not police businessYou are really such stupid?

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 03:24:57 am
content: Quote from: MasterT on January 31, 2021, 03:24:11 amThe rest of your waffle is entirely irrelevant becausethis has nothing to do with the law, driving licenses, or the police.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 03:32:51 am
content: Quote from: MasterT on January 31, 2021, 03:24:11 amThe only dumbass here is you. Nobody borrows certificate unless it's intended by certificate owner.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 03:47:05 am
content: Have you been living under a rock? Web hosting services are as old as the modern internet itself. I can remember a few small businesses that self hosted their website but I don't think anyone does it anymore unless it's part of their business. Let me know when you find a retail company that isn't doing this.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 03:50:21 am
content: He is so lazy to google and educate himself that sees conspiracy where none is even close. The same as 5G nutjobs.

author: MasterT
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 05:49:28 am
content: Quote from: wraper on January 31, 2021, 03:50:21 amNo idea what 5G is. Not in telecom for 10 years, exactly - under the rock.Sorry for this guy who works in telecom for long time, there is 99% probability he is a Robot . I know how this businesses goes, 've been a Cyborg for a monster- Rogers, lucky survive enslavary. Have seen many pure fellows, that even does not know what they are doing on a network infrastructure or why. They hardly remember theirs name after a while, alcgeimer or something like that.Time to tell a conspiracy theory....Now I belongs to the spiritual world, can't say much. I witnessed one monk was tortured to death 10-15 years ago . Strange things, before he left a world of living, he pronounced a curse. Very old and powerful curse of the Egyptian mummia. Pharaon's. That world would be invasion by invisible killers, and millions would die. I didn'r believe at that time, but now I'm terrified. What is more miracles, an orthodox priest /monk resurrected and received a gift from the God's - immortality.HIV doesn't stick to him . Cancer afraid to come even close. Last year he 've got covid-19 - but easily came back in a couples days and went on a regular 2-hours promenade.Technically speaking, 10-years is not much for 3000+something years old curse to took a power , and bring morons to justice.

author: Alex Eisenhut
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 06:58:27 am
content: Huh?

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2021, 10:04:21 am
content: MasterT, stop talking shit. You have not uncovered a conspiracy nor anything suspicious. Anyone with half a working knowledge of how the internet works will tell you similar.