New apple product - Page 1
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author: smashedProton
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 05:24:23 am
content: My local apple fanboy showed me that the apple store is closed and that there is a new apple product being released.<start ranting>

author: PeterG
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timestamp: February 27, 2013, 05:28:21 am
content: I had an iphone once. Upgraded to Android and never looked back.

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 05:39:12 am
content: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/02/25/apple-is-beta-testing-a-fix-for-evasi0n-jailbreak/Until they stop trying to block the tweakers, I'm sticking to Android.

author: smashedProton
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 06:42:57 am
content: no other make of phone encourages you to do what YOU want with it. think about it

author: AlfBaz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 07:04:13 am
content: Quote from: NiHaoMike on February 27, 2013, 05:39:12 amAs far as I can tell Google fixes any exploit that is discovered and certifies manufacturers version's and mods of android.It is becoming increasingly difficult to find an exploit in android so that you can gain r/w access to root and some of its directories, even if it's temporary. Once you have this access you can copy the su command into it and away you go.A lot of the clever poeple that have the ability to discover these exploits have increasingly taken the stance tha if theManufacturerdoesn't provide a way to unlock the bootloader, thus allowing the flashing of an OS with SU already there, then users that want root access should avoid those manufacturers.You will also find that if you unlock your bootloader you wont get access to things like there book, magazine, music and movie services. If you have rooted your device via an exploit however, no problems because the boot loader is still locked.

author: Dago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 09:38:56 am
content: Quote from: AlfBaz on February 27, 2013, 07:04:13 amAny other manufacturers than HTC giving instructions for rooting (http://www.htcdev.com/)? HTC ftw!

author: poorchava
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 09:59:03 am
content: A bit of an offtopic, but I heard a joke about Apple fanboys some time ago:-how do you recognize an Apple fanboy when he walks into a bar?-he orders same thing as yesterday, but pays more.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 10:23:40 am
content: Quote from: poorchava on February 27, 2013, 09:59:03 amLove it

author: justanothercanuck
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 11:06:53 am
content: Quote from: AlfBaz on February 27, 2013, 07:04:13 amLast I checked, google never patched the "zerg rush" exploit.

author: AlfBaz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 12:40:28 pm
content: Quote from: justanothercanuck on February 27, 2013, 11:06:53 amNever heard of that one, just had a quick look and it seems it hasn't worked since Gingerbread 2.3.x Since then we've had IceCreamSandwich and Jellybean, the latest version being 4.2If you have heard of any thing other than debugfs or the restore timing exploit please, let me know

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 02:24:38 pm
content: Just search for "<device name> root" on Google and there's a good chance your Android device is rootable. And even an unrooted Android can run apks from outside the store, not so with Apple. It is not to say that Android is problem-free, just that it is much better than Apple in that regard.QuoteWhy bother with DRMed media (of any kind) in the first place? Buy or download (legally) DRM-free media instead. DRM has never proved to be more than a mere speed bump to pirates anyways, but it does interfere with legitimate use. (Which, ironically, actually promotes piracy by making the pirate copies better than the legitimate copies...)

author: AlfBaz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 27, 2013, 03:38:18 pm
content: Quote from: NiHaoMike on February 27, 2013, 02:24:38 pmLast I checked about a month ago, my Azus TF201 is unrootable with JB4.1 If I had of rooted it when I first bought it (ICS) and then used some root keeper methods during upgrades It would still be rooted. As it stands the only way to do it is to D/L Azus's boot unlocker, which sends your devices unique code to thier web site and returns the decryption key and unlocks the bootloader. You are allowed to do this but they stipulate that warranty will be void for everything, even their dogdy chargers.Just to be perfectly clear, I dislike apple's business practicess, and the direction they're steering this industry.I also dislike what's going on with all smart phones, tablets etc, in general.Here we have devices that can and do track your location(gps), physical movement(accelerometer), visual, audio, phone calls and conversations, list of friends, opinions, likes and dislikes, basically everything about you and what you do and you cant even dump a directory listing of the apk's installed in data/data! Are you shitting me??? and all for what? To protect the income content providers no doubt.The generic reasoning given byt the likes of google and apple is that it's all about making sure the integrity and security of the OS and your data is kept intact. This may be ok for the general punlic but I don't know why you can't have a method of being able to log on as an administrator on a device you can pay nearly $1000 for.As for the security of your data, here's a nice start...http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/councils-snooping-on-phone-use/story-e6frgakx-1226579848017In acouple of years time we'll get use to that and then they'll go a little further... where does it end?QuoteYep, see my above rant, again I couldn't agree with you more

author: justanothercanuck
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 28, 2013, 02:59:02 am
content: Quote from: AlfBaz on February 27, 2013, 03:38:18 pmIt's only got a one year warranty anyways, if it didn't fail in the first month, I'd just go root it anyways.