Altium offers perpetual licenses - again - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2024, 09:34:33 am
content: QuoteIs it just me or is this flip-flop of license agreements starting to look ridiculous? I honestly don't trust them anymore that they are not going to remove features or add subscription fees to perpetual licenses - again.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2024, 01:55:50 pm
content: The price looks like some Chinese Ebay seller going on holiday and adding a zero to their item prices.Who is going to pay that ridiculous amount for Altium?

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2024, 04:31:10 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on March 14, 2024, 01:55:50 pmThe price is ballpark the license price and 3 year subscription.

author: ajb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2024, 04:48:44 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on March 14, 2024, 04:31:10 pm3 years? Their US site currently shows $12925 for a single site license ($9775) and just 1yr subscription at Pro level ($3150). A "continental" license bumps that up to $19388 ($14663 + $4725).(I'd be curious to know how they justify charging so much more for customers that have a different physical office arrangement -- clearly the real answer is "because they can", but they can't just tell their customers that, right?)

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2024, 05:00:34 pm
content: So the US single site license is more than the perpetual license?Or they just going to write different prices when you are logged in? For Altium for a while now it feels like whatever just pay us. Maybe they want to grab some cash before the sale deal goes through.

author: jc101
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2024, 05:54:31 pm
content: Even with a perpetual licence, some features are only enabled with a Pro subscription level too. Impressive work that.At least this was the case a few weeks ago, today, who knows

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2024, 08:23:23 pm
content: Quote from: jc101 on March 14, 2024, 05:54:31 pmThe multi board was standard feature few year ago, when pro didn't exist. Our salesmen tries to convince me maybe once every quarter to get the pro. It's not even funny anymore.

author: jc101
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2024, 08:34:52 pm
content: The situation with Multi-Board and perpetual licences is interesting. If you let your subscription lapse, even perpetual licence holders who have it under grandfather rights will have it removed.So, to continue using a feature in your perpetual license, you must have an active continuous subscription, or they will remove features. There has been some discussion of this over on the Altium forums.

author: ajb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 14, 2024, 08:42:51 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on March 14, 2024, 05:00:34 pmNo, those are perpetual licenses. But they distinguish between geographical scopes, so, not counting subscription, each perpetual license is $9775 if everyone works at a single site, $14663 if everyone works on the same continent, and "contact us" otherwise. Maybe that's why Renesas bought them, so they could give themselves a break on whatever the "contact us" global pricing is.Quote from: jc101 on March 14, 2024, 08:34:52 pmSame with the new Constraint Manager, which is extra ridiculous because for at least one minor version they actuallyremovedthe option to create a project using the older Design Rules dialog.