Finding automotive connector - Page 1
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author: endlessmind
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 14, 2019, 07:03:17 am
content: Hope this is the correct part of this forumWorking on a add-in to a range of car-modells, but need to find a connector toone of the control modules in the car so what we can make a kit that the user can just plug the originalwiring into without having to cut wires or stuff like that (in this case, we need to capture some LINbus packages and handle them our self)I've found the female connector (Aptiv, modelnumber 13842310), but cannot find the male one.Contacted the company that has the female one, but they did not have a male version.Here is a link to the product page at Aptiv:https://ecat.aptiv.com/feature?search=13842310I don't mind if we have to order male from other manufacture.If someone also know what kind of crimp connectors they use, then that would also be great.Thanks in advance

author: todd_fuller
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 14, 2019, 02:45:08 pm
content: Not your solution but a good starting place:https://www.corsa-technic.com/category.php?category_id=132

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 14, 2019, 03:59:03 pm
content: Not all automotive connectors have the mating part available.Especially when the mating part is part of the control units housing.There is really not need for the manufacturer to make this connector.So, sometimes it can be difficult to impossible to find one.I am not sure in your case.

author: frogg
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 15, 2019, 07:40:41 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on May 14, 2019, 03:59:03 pmThis is true. Many would-be entrepreneurs have desired to simply purchase ECU housing connectors. Many have failed.Unless you have a key to the factory, or are the SCM manager for the car company, you are going to have to create your own connectors - molds and all.Bench single-shot and/or casting might be an economical alternative.

author: endlessmind
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 20, 2019, 08:50:52 pm
content: Thanks for the replies.So I've seen this connector in more than one car part on different models from same manufacture (Volvo, S40n, C30 and V50 has it in the ICM, some XC/V70 from around 2007-2012 has it in the dashboard).They are pcb mounted, and that would be fine for me.I've also seen that Bluepower has a cable-kit for their Android head-unit that has both the male and female connector (non-pcb models).I'm looking into maybe see if it's possible to make a crude 3D-print version of the connector (Not sure the it will be able to hold on to the pins when connecting..).But due to bluepower being able to find them, I feel that it increases my chances.Is there any search terms that might aid me?I'm thinking that the connector is not uniformed (2 columns of pins on one side of the locking mechanism but only 1 on the other),that there might be some term that I might be missing.

author: ConnWiz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 06, 2019, 06:12:21 pm
content: Aptiv (former Delphi) and Yazaki both make the female connector. However, the pcb header is only produced by Yazaki. There is no mating connector that has pluggable male terminals unless someone is making it in the aftermarket. Many OEMs make it very difficult for the aftermarket to tie into the CAN circuits.Producing a 3D model of the male connector is not possible. These 0.064 mm terminals are very small. Even if I could provide you with the cavity detail, the 3D printing technology is not there to provide the locking details for the terminals.I have worked with many up-fitters who are trying to tie into the CAN circuits to create a plug-n-play system for their customers. Your best bet would be to develop an adapter harness using the existing pcb header in order for your customers to unplug the OEM harness and connect up your system. I can help you access the components you will need if you decide to go this route.

author: Scrts
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2019, 06:41:59 pm
content: Many times, it might be a custom connector. I work for an automotive company and we mold our own male connectors while female is available off-the-shelf from a number of different suppliers.

author: endlessmind
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 06, 2019, 09:28:21 pm
content: QuoteDo you mean getting the female one and add own harness to it?But I would still have the issue with connecting the car harness into my harness due to it having the female one, right?

author: ConnWiz
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 07, 2019, 01:36:52 am
content: Here is a very basic proposal. It would eliminate the need for you or your customer to cut any OEM wires. A very basic and small pcb could be made with double 10 way header connectors. Your customer would simply disconnect the 10 way connector (13842310) from the LIN module and plug it into the pcb adaptor and your harness is plugged into the other end of the adaptor. Your system would connect back to the LIN module with the same 10 way (13842310) connector. Sorry for the basic diagram. I hope you can follow it.

author: endlessmind
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 09, 2019, 12:04:31 am
content: Ah, okay.I misunderstood this:QuoteI read it as there is no male terminal, but you meant that is a male terminal but only PCB mounted, right?PCB mounted is fine.Most of our system is on a separate PCB, we only need to connect to this specific harnessto get data from the steering wheel button for media control as well as from the central console (Car models in question is Volvo C30, C70, S40 II and V50 and a few others).The steering wheel button uses LIN for the communication and the central console uses CAN.We have a smal PCB done that we can splice into the cars harness, but that is not very user friendly.Having the male connector as PCB mount only is no problem, will only require a adjustment of the case of the pcb.