Eh ? Making a videoblog and then get i all wrong - WTF ?  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: janengelbrecht
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 05:46:31 am
content: Demonstration of measuring the capacitance of a capacitor by using a functiongenerator (squarewave) and an oscilloscope.1th try: went ok.....2th try: Big fail....Eh ? Shouldnt a videoblogger have all the theory and practical measuring technics sorted out for himself BEFORE making the video ?I Mean its like making a movie without a scriptI look at different videobloggers....Eevblog for instance...and there the man making the blog has the theory sorted out - the teacher knows his stuffI prefer the teacher has more knowledge than the student

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 05:54:29 am
content: Back then and in the video he always mentions that he is not an expert by any means, but he is willing to share his mistakes.

author: janengelbrecht
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 05:59:04 am
content: FairYou learn by your mistakes...there is just not a lot of confidence from the viewers perspective in the knowledge and skills at the bloggers side ...well fair...every man his conceptPerhaps im just not used to that someone makes a video without having 100% control

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 06:38:04 am
content: Martin's style is not for everyone. The videos are long so that already alienates a lot of people. He will make mistakes and he has always said that if they are mistakes that result in serious injury or unsafe, that he would remove the video or annotate them.It does take guts to do video blogging for a living.In general, doing a perfect video where every shot, word, lighting, detail etc is difficult even for the big budget productions.It is a lot easier to write something in text, proof read it and post it.PS. Martin explains a lot of this on theamphourhttp://www.theamphour.com/206-an-interview-with-martin-lorton-variegated-video-vagility/

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 06:57:51 am
content: He seems to be a nice guy, talks a lot hehehe, but he will get better with time, give the guy a chance

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 07:06:59 am
content: Quote from: janengelbrecht on November 28, 2014, 05:46:31 amWelcome to the world of video blogging.Most video bloggers do not have scripts, it's "off-the-cuff".QuoteSometimes.I can pretty much guarantee there is at least one mistake in every one of my videos!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 07:11:03 am
content: Quote from: retiredcaps on November 28, 2014, 06:38:04 amIndeed, it's a tough gig. Even more so to admit you make mistakes.QuoteVery much so.The one who does the best in our industry at this is Afrotechmods.He does scripts, and spends about 10 times the time the likes of Martin and I take to make a his 5 minutes videos compared to our 1 hour videos.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 07:12:07 am
content: BTW, try proof reading/watching your own stuff, it's next to impossible!I don't even try any more, it's pointless, I always miss stuff.

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 07:29:28 am
content: I like that video. It's ok for some to create a video where everything goes perfect, and it's ok for others to take another approach.

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 07:36:05 am
content: That interview with the solar panel guys was realy interesting thumbs up for him

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 07:41:57 am
content: I have a few blogs bookmarked that I watch for laughs (moments when the Ozzy rhetoric " how ya doin' " might apply).Never posted them as it feels a bit of a cheap shot, I must be going soft in my old age or something!

author: Radio Tech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 01:04:07 pm
content: I watched the video, not bad.I know we all make mistakes.Its one thing to make videos, and another to admit you made mistakes.It took me 2 years before I got the nerve to make a video. Now I have 6 all in my redneck style. When I made my first one I pm'd it to Dave. He did not shoot me

author: lapm
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 01:58:09 pm
content: Mjorton is ok... Personally i do enjoy hes style to let us see failures as well and hes first to admit when hes got something wrong...Live and learn i say...At least hes doing what he loves doing: video blogging... And over time he gets better at it just like Dave has done.... Compare Daves recent videos to some of hes early works... You see the difference...

author: rob77
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 02:43:14 pm
content: Martin is ok, he's one of the top EE bloggers.i personally rather prefer Dave's overly enthusiastic style or Mike's "fast paced mumbling"(i also like Mike's accent) or Alan's practical educational vids, but i'm also watching Martin's videos and there is nothing wrong with them.

author: robrenz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 02:45:33 pm
content: Martins style is a little slow for me but I am not throwing any stones since he has way more viewers than me.

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 02:55:42 pm
content: He may not be quite as technical, but his equipment reviews are very deep, presses every button, get to see each screen etc. He further helps round out the electrical topics available on YT,

author: G0HZU
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 03:13:58 pm
content: Quote from: RobertoLG on November 28, 2014, 06:57:51 amYes, Martin has very good presentation skills and a good speaking voice and I would go so far to say that he is probably wasting these skills by trying to be a fulltime EE videoblogger on youtube. I think he'd make a very good voiceover presenter on TV for example.

author: magetoo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 09:22:13 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 28, 2014, 07:11:03 amThe mistakes and the mysteries are the best part!I like those occasional moments when you or someone else is stumped or confronted with a problem that needs solving. It shows that what you do isn't magic, and that (usually) it's possible to work through things and find out what is really going on.

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 09:44:45 pm
content: Quote from: G0HZU on November 28, 2014, 03:13:58 pmHeh, dave is a natural too and he probably don't realises it, like I sayd before martin did a good job with that interview with the solar panels, he surely has his merits

author: RRobot
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 09:52:04 pm
content: I like Martins videos, something about his presentation style I find relaxing.I think it takes a lot of guts to produce some original content and put it on YT, especially anyone who does it for free.Lots of downside, very little upside, make a mistake, and the hyenas will rip you apart like a small deer on the Serengeti.

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 10:03:54 pm
content: Quote from: RRobot on November 28, 2014, 09:52:04 pmYa, and it's real time reaction, I guess one of the secrets is that you have to understant that you won't be good for everybody, taking all the positive stuff and keep going

author: ampdoctor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 10:24:02 pm
content: Having not actually watched the video, it seems like it'd be a good idea to watch an experiment go completely sideways on somebody. As most of us know, when we try out ideas or processes for the first time very often things go horribly wrong, and seeing somebody trying to problem solve a train wreck can be very instructive in its own right. Watching somebody build or repair something and have it work perfectly the first time or have the process go smoothly just isn't the real world. We learn more from our failures than our successes.

author: steve30
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 10:40:23 pm
content: Quote from: G0HZU on November 28, 2014, 03:13:58 pmHe must do it because he likes it. He certainly does have the voice for 'voiceover' work. I once suggested that he should become a Radio 4 announcer. I think he has just the right voice to announce Sailing By, read the shipping forecast, tell us what's on on the other channels, and wish us a very peaceful night.

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 28, 2014, 11:05:21 pm
content: QuoteI think if you understood how capacitors work, you would have understood why this approach worked for the 1st and 3rd capacitors but not for the last capacitor -> it is not difficult at all and I would encourage you to try. And what he encountered on the 2nd capacitor is NOT a mistake.Just to be clear, I have used the same approach to measure capacitors in the past, and ESRs too.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2014, 06:04:07 am
content: Quote from: steve30 on November 28, 2014, 10:40:23 pm

author: jancumps
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 29, 2014, 06:13:33 am
content: Quote from: SeanB on November 29, 2014, 06:04:07 amhey, I understand all of that

author: magetoo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2014, 12:30:23 pm
content: Hey, I understood none of that! But I bet I could read it just fine.It's weird, having been in .nl a couple of times. Reading something it's usually possible to get the gist of what it says. But if someone speaks the same text it's pretty much incomprehensible.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2014, 12:37:58 pm
content: Quote from: magetoo on November 29, 2014, 12:30:23 pmhint, it is not Dutch................

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2014, 01:04:30 pm
content: Again it is "all about the context" (no mullets of course, and a biscuit for the reference:P).Martin's vids are not Dave's, as Dave's are not Mike's.Martin doesn't claim to be an electronics wizard, but what he does do is try to keep the whole collection as a reference source.In that he tests and logs the performance of the meters, checks each function, he takes the meters apart and gives you decent look.Know I have gratefully used Martins blog as a reference when buying a multimeter.

author: magetoo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2014, 07:13:45 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on November 29, 2014, 12:37:58 pmIt's okay, I don't understand any of the other languages spoken there either.(Serious answer: Did not intend to imply that they're the same thing. The two paragraphs are separate.)

author: dannyf
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 29, 2014, 08:21:27 pm
content: QuoteHe is generally good. Maybe a little too spontaneous and a little bit too wordy, but I contribute that to youtube's business model.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2014, 06:48:07 am
content: Quote from: magetoo on November 29, 2014, 07:13:45 pmIt's OK, there are only 11 official languages here in South Africa.

author: Kjelt
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2014, 10:26:16 am
content: Still a lot of old dutch words in that language, the conrext can be understood by a hollanderOn the same note in our small country there are a lot of dialects that I can not understand at all. There is even an official second language tought at some schools : Fries. Which is also spoken in small parts of north germany and west denmark.It is for other dutch people more difficult to understand Fries than that South African language on the radio

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 30, 2014, 11:51:07 am
content: Quote from: RobertoLG on November 28, 2014, 09:44:45 pmNot according to Australia's top acting school NIDA. They told me I was the 2nd worst student they had ever seen. I didn't doubt that!I doeverythingwrong, absolutely everything when it comes to presenting on camera.But what I lack in ability I make up for with enthusiasm

author: magetoo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2014, 03:30:32 pm
content: Quote from: Kjelt on November 30, 2014, 10:26:16 amThat's what I was thinking about, spent a couple of days in Franeker on my way back from a Dutch hacker camp a few years ago. Seemed equally (in)comprehensible to me. :-)

author: RobertoLG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 30, 2014, 10:17:21 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 30, 2014, 11:51:07 amYa right, you're just being modest, you got the talent, I'm pretty sure that others think te same, isn't just enthusiasm hehehe

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 30, 2014, 11:25:50 pm
content: Quote from: RobertoLG on November 30, 2014, 10:17:21 pmNope, I seriously suck at professional on-screen camera presentation. I would never make it in the mainstream.The NIDA teachers said they can understand why I'm popular, but that doesn't mean my skills are any good. I totally agree.

author: XynxNet
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2014, 01:18:50 am
content: Well you do excell in video blogging, Dave.Give yourself and us viewers some credit. We wouldn't watch, if your skills wouldn't match your medium 'vblog'.Fortunately professional media standards don't count much in video blogging.And even in mainstream media they aren't unified. For example compare (continental) european television with us television. Totally different. There is no way their screen personal could change from one to the other. So even mainstream media standards are relative.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2014, 07:13:33 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 30, 2014, 11:25:50 pmCan't act, can't sing, can dance a little...................that was said about fred Astaire Dave.Yes, Dave can't follow a cue card to any degree, can't not be himself, but that is what is the best part of his presentation.Me, I have a face for radio and a voice for mime..............

author: Yago
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 01, 2014, 07:27:18 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 30, 2014, 11:51:07 amHang on a minute, I call shenanigans here!Firstly, an Aus acting school!?, c'mon now!Then, the second worst actor in Aus?I dread to ask who was the absolute worst, I hope it's not Kylie, no amount of electronics skills are going to fill those hot pants!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 04, 2014, 01:57:50 am
content: Quote from: SeanB on December 01, 2014, 07:13:33 pmI'm thankful some people actually like it, it pays the bills!QuoteSurely I must hold the record for the worst voice on a "radio show" host?

author: steve30
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2014, 02:27:36 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 04, 2014, 01:57:50 amMaybe. I used to think Dave had a really odd voice. But now I don't mind it. Maybe I just got used to it.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 04, 2014, 04:43:33 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on December 04, 2014, 01:57:50 amCheck with Martin...................

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2014, 04:15:00 pm
content: I personally like Martin's videos, but I agree some may be a bit long. However the info and the journey are totally worth it.If you want to watch a videoblogger that gets faster to his own mistakes, tryMehdi Sadaghdar's channel...

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 05, 2014, 05:14:42 pm
content: Quote from: janengelbrecht on November 28, 2014, 05:46:31 amnah - Martin's videos are about his own personal journey into electronics, and very enjoyable to watch; I just wish he had more time to tinker around a bit more and post more videos.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2014, 07:54:33 pm
content: A new video, paqrt 2, on Hema imaging.

author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 05, 2014, 10:26:58 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on November 30, 2014, 11:25:50 pmWell, I am fairly sure those NIDA folks wouldn't know which end of the soldering iron to grab neither!You are not producing videos for the same target group as they are preparing their students for, so that's fine