WTB DE/EU Amtech NC-559-V2-TF somewhere in Germany or group buy from US - Page 1
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author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2019, 09:46:32 pm
content: Hello everybody, I've got my hands on a "real-deal" Amtech flux (unfortunately a minuscule quantity now gone) and I'm now a believer, I will never use another flux from SMD rework.So I'm looking for either a DE/EU shop that is guaranteed to have the original stuff (the EBAY junk is just... junk, it doesn't even smell the same) or some interested persons in Germany to do a group buy from Louis Rossmann shop and split the cost of a DHL shipping.Cheers,DC1MC

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2019, 09:58:27 pm
content: Just buy from TMEhttps://www.tme.eu/lv/en/details/anc559v2_10/fluxes/amtech/nc-559-v2/.But IMHO it's not so wonderful flux to bother. Alpha OM-338 is better.https://www.tme.eu/lv/en/details/topnik-gel-bga/fluxes/alpha/om-338/Also it's not conductive before activation unlike Amtech. Might be an issue if used for hand soldering sensitive circuits due to not complete heating. Though OM-338 has a bit funny smell when heated. So fume extractor is recommended, not that you should breath fumes from any flux.

author: DuPe
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2019, 09:59:11 pm
content: I'd like to participate a possible group buy.CheersPeteredit: thanks to wraper's link, i'll go with tme

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2019, 10:18:35 pm
content: EDIT: TME Poland is an authorized distributor, just called Inventec sales.There is also a German distributor with some resellers, but as always their websites are uselessThanks to @wrapper link I'll also go with TME, the stuff there is ca. 250% more expensive than Louis stuff, but the shipping lag plus Zoll hassle may make it worth doing itIFthere's the original stuff.Also at least 5 x 30cc interested were needed to get over the DHL shipping costs and MwSt, so it may still be worth doing if there are enough people, therefor I'll levee the topic open for the moment.I'll let you know if it smells the same and also fire an email to Amtech to see if TME is an authorized distributor. The other Chinese jizz doesn't interest me.Cheers,DC1MC

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2019, 10:23:07 pm
content: TME is authorized distributor. If you need it for hobby use only, there is no merit buying 30ml. Unless you apply over-ridiculous amount of flux like Louis, 10ml should be enough for years.http://www.inventecusa.com/reps---distributors.htmlQuote

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2019, 10:35:21 pm
content: IDOlike to apply reasonable amounts of flux, like Louis does, so a 30cc will do me well.And looking at the the miserable stingy solder jobs that I've seen in the region, with burned flux and ex-foiled pads, there is a need for at least one soldering guy that is not a "schwäbische Hausfrau".Also, to reject and consider totally damaged any board that has been locally reworked with whatever crap they seem to use, because it's really terrible.Cheers,DC1MC

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2019, 10:43:05 pm
content: Quote from: DC1MC on November 03, 2019, 10:35:21 pmIt's not reasonable, it's plain stupid. Applying 20-50 times more flux than needed. Besides not improving soldering in any way, you then need to clean all of that mess flowing all over the board. Also considering that it's slightly conductive when not activated, it's almost guaranteed that some of non activated/ conductive flux will remain under nearby SMD components. Unless you thoroughly clean it in ultrasonic bath.

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2019, 10:52:30 pm
content: Leaving aside the debate about what is the proper amount of flux, why the hell is the TME price19% higherwhen I log in as a registered customer ?!?!?11.67 € vs. 13.89 € (Germany is selected as a country and Netto prices in both cases) ?!?!

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2019, 11:07:49 pm
content: VAT, if you have VAT number, 11.67 € price will remain.

author: twist3r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2024, 12:14:29 am
content: Sorry for reviving this old topic but I got almost the same question as the OP.The only difference is that I would like to buy it ONLY from EU (and I preffer Germany).Also I would like to buy only 1 'tube' of 10cc. Someone suggested tme.pl (tme.eu) but they stopped selling NC-599-V2. For a second I thought they were going to offer 'new' NC-559-V3, but they don't. They completely stopped selling Amtech flux.So, does anyone know where to order from Amtech NC-559-V2 flux in European Union, possibly Germany?I only found that inventec.dehon.com (which is, I think, located in Germany) offer 5x 10cc (minimum order) for 85 euros. Kinda too expensive for me. I just need 1 piece.

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2024, 01:01:54 am
content: AMTECH seem to gone for ever, at least the original recipe, it was quite a drama regarding the recipe, even Louis don't sell it anymore.It seems that everybody switcher to STIRRI, a company made by some former employees that were doing Amtech original recipe:https://stirri.de/en/collections/tacky-flux/Material:-Tacky-FluxIt has been reviewed like crazy all over Youtube and judged to be worthy (also cheap enough).Cheers,DC1MC

author: twist3r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2024, 02:22:55 am
content: Thanks for the answer DC1MC !I didn't knew anything about Amtech. I have no clue right now what happen. I'll google it and see what I'll find.This 'STIRRI' has so many fluxes. Which one one is the one that can be used instead of NC-559-V2 ? (I'm lost at their flux page)btw. does STIRRI has warehouse in Germany?

author: DC1MC
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2024, 04:57:45 pm
content: Stirri IS Amtech, they design fluxes and Amtech was selling it under the brand name.The direct equivalent is:https://stirri.de/en/products/stirri-v2-tf?shpxid=d75b721f-4f9c-48ca-b77c-4d0183edd103I don't care about where the warehouse is as I buy form Amazon, but it doesn't hurt to cal/mail them, if they have a .de domain, most likely they have a presence in Germany.Also you can meet them directly in Münich in a couple of weeks:https://www.reddit.com/user/istirri/https://www.reddit.com/r/soldering/comments/1dd51t1/amtech_and_stirri_confusion/" As of now, there are two companies associated with this that are manufacturing flux:Stirri (https://stirri.com), which is the old AmtechDirect.com. They have several of their own flux formulas, including new ones, and manufacture the fluxes themselves with their own formulas as far as I know. (Might not be correct, they may contract out the flux production).Inventec Performance Chemicals, USA (https://shop.inventec.dehon.com/collections/flux). This company was originally just licensed to sell product under the Amtech name, but someone else was manufacturing the flux for them. They are now manufacturing it themselves, although the formulas they're using for some of their fluxes are under license from someone else. They have rights to sell fluxes under the "Amtech" name.Three popular fluxes that have been featured and used by several notable YouTube channels (Northridge Fix, Rossman Group) are:NC-559-V2 / V2-TF: Available from Inventec here:https://shop.inventec.dehon.com/products/copie-de-amtech-nc-559-v2,available from Stirri here:https://stirri.com/products/stirri-v2-tfNC-559-ASM / ASM-TF: Available from Inventec here:https://shop.inventec.dehon.com/products/amtech-nc-559-asm-tacky-flux,available from Stirri here:https://stirri.com/products/stirri-asm-tfNC-559-V3 / V3-TF: Available from Inventec here:https://shop.inventec.dehon.com/products/amtech-nc-559-v3,available from Stirri here:https://stirri.com/products/stirri-v3-tfI personally use the V3-TF from Stirri, it's one of my top favorite fluxes. "I hope this clears a bit the confusion.Cheers,DC1MC

author: twist3r
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 23, 2024, 09:29:56 pm
content: Thanks a lot for your answer DC1MC !

author: testpoint1
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 26, 2024, 04:19:42 pm
content: AMTECH still alive, but in China, the name already registered by a low quality flux company, so, if you buy the real AMTECH NC-559, the kit can not use the "AMTECH" name, that is China. actually, many factory in China are using the real AMTECH product, so some of them may pack 100g bottle to sell, the price now about 15 USD. but you must know a trustable vendor.Quote from: DC1MC on September 23, 2024, 01:01:54 am

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 26, 2024, 05:55:54 pm
content: If you need a reshipper from US to DE let me know. I am glad to help.