Uni-T UT61E backlight mod with touch sensor [tutorial] - Page 1
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author: Nisei
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 02:36:44 pm
content: Several people have asked me what parts I've used and how I've wired up the UT61E backlight mod with touch sensor I posted in a different topic so I thought I might as well dedicate a thread to the subject so it's easier to find for people searching for it.If you want to use any of the pictures in this post then feel free to do so but please mention who and where you got them from. It has taken me quite an amount of time to come up with this so please have the courtesy to mention me and link to this thread.https://youtu.be/EHStaKB0BwIWhile looking for a tutorial to install a backlight I came across apost on diyaudioby user Tolik.I loved the touch sensor but he built everything from scratch and there are quite a few components involved.I don't really like the fact that when you let the UT61E's ES51922A chip control the backlight, it turns off again after 60 seconds. Besides that, his circuit uses around 35mA which I think is quite a lot (compared to what the meter itself uses).So, I started looking around if I couldn't build something myself with less components and not connected to the ES51922A chip.The result is a very simple circuit with only a few components.It draws only a few micro amps when the backlight is off and a few milli amps when the backlight is on.The output port sink current on the touch module is 8mA but I've tested with way higher values and it doesn't seem to damage anything.The resistor used depends on the specs of the LEDs so the one in the tutorial is not correct.This tutorial may look for dummies but that's because I'm a dummy myself when it comes to electronics. I only have very basic knowledge of it and build things by logical reasoning and learn a little as I go along.Thanks to helpful member mariush in this thread and a member on Hackaday (who covered this mod on their blog), I have revised this mod which has drastically improved efficiency.Parts list (click on link to be taken to item on eBay):2x3528 LED red1xTTP223 touch sensor module1x3.3V low quiescent current voltage regulator MCP1703T-3302E/DB1x resistor (value depends on LEDs used)First off, modify the touch sensor module. We don't need the touch area because we're going to make our own. Bridging the W1 terminals (pins 5 & 6 of the TTP223 chip) turns the module from a momentary switch into a toggle switch:Your module should now look like this:Since we've removed the LED (D1) there's room to put the voltage regulator on the board to keep things compact.The middle leg of the voltage regulator can be removed since we're using the tab on the top.The touch module has a capacitor on the input side so we can solder the MCP1703 regulator straight to the board.Left of the battery compartment is plenty of room to install the circuit.Watch out for wires getting trapped between the battery compartment and board when you put the back of the meter back on.The 9V we're using is the battery power which gets switched by the rotary selector so the circuit turns on and off when you turn the meter on and off.I've used green color to draw the +9V signal because red on red isn't really clear to seeAgain, note the resistor is NOT the correct value in this picture.To find the right value for the resistor it's handy to try out a few values or just use a variable resistor so you can set the brightness to your liking.Keep the brightness as low as possible. The touch module isn't really made to supply more than 8mA of current although in real life it can handle at least twice that amount.Solder a wire (I've used 30 awg wrapping wire for all wiring) to C3 on the edge of the board.This wire runs to the top of the meter and connects to a piece of aluminum foil tape. If you're having difficulty soldering to the foil tape, just strip off a fair amount of insulation and use another piece if tape to attach the wire to the foil tape.The larger the piece of foil tape, the more sensitive the sensor. If too large, the backlight will turn on even before your finger touches the meter. Experiment to find the correct size.You can use the 2 holes seen in the picture to lead your LED wires to the other side of the board.DO NOT SOLDER THEM ONTO THESE TERMINALS AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE PROPERLY INSULATED!30 awg wrapping wire is perfect.We're wiring the LEDs in parallel.Using a very tiny amount of hot glue, stick the LEDs onto the foil tape that's on the plastic plate behind the LCD display.The cutouts are there, because Uni-T also uses these plates for the other 61x models that do have backlight already installed.The LEDs should be emitting light into the plate (to the top of the picture).And here's a view from the other side.To make sure nothing's interfering with the meter I've wrapped the added circuit board in aluminum tape (without taking the backing off) and connected it to GND (VB-) so it's completely shielded.When re-installing the board and cover, make sure no wires get trapped or damaged.If you ruin your meter by installing this mod, don't blame me.I can't be held responsible if anything gets damaged in the process.Any comments, tips and annoyances are welcome

author: mariush
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 04:38:34 pm
content: Awesome mod.I would only work on improving the efficiency, as 9v batteries aren't that great when it comes to higher current draws ... ut61e only uses 3-6mA in various modes and your light draws 3-4x times that, and at 20-25mA a 9v battery will drain much faster (and the voltage will drop prematurely due to the battery's internal resistance) ... it's enough to see the difference between 2mA and 10mA in this datasheet to see how much it matters:http://ww2.duracell.com/media/en-US/pdf/gtcl/Product_Data_Sheet/NA_DATASHEETS/MN1604_6LR61_US_CT.pdfUT61E works fine with as little as 5.6v but AMS1117 has a voltage drop of at least 0.7v so in theory it would be fine... but the suck part is the high quiescent current consumption, typically about 5mA according to datasheet, which is more than what the whole meter uses in some modes.Seems like the TTP223 sensor works with 2.0 - 5v, so I would probably change the voltage to something like 2.8v or 3.3v, which in turn would allow you to use a much smaller current limiting resistor for the LED (you'd want to limit current to 5-10mA anyway).Ideally, I'd use a switching regulator for best results (there are some that only require an external inductor and maybe a couple of capacitors to work) but for this application you could go with some nice ldo regulators likelp2980 :http://uk.farnell.com/texas-instruments/lp2980aim5-3-3/v-reg-ldo-3-3v-smd-2980-sot235/dp/1212201lp2985 :http://uk.farnell.com/texas-instruments/lp2985im5-3-3/v-reg-ldo-3-3v-smd-2985-sot235/dp/9778284TLV70133 :http://uk.farnell.com/texas-instruments/tlv70133dbvt/ldo-3-3v-150ma-sot23-5-full-reel/dp/2437506mic5213 (3v) :http://uk.farnell.com/micrel-semiconductor/mic5213-3-0yc5-tr/ldo-volt-reg-0-08a-3v-sc-70-5/dp/2431764You just have to be careful to get something that can handle 10-12v input voltage, because fresh 9v batteries can often have voltage higher than 9v. These above will work, but there's lots of tiny ldos that can only work up to about 5.5-6v, so again, must be careful about it.With LDOs the difference between input and output voltage is wasted as heat, so for example with 10mA , you have (9v - 3.3v )v x 0.01a = 0.057w .. i guess it's reasonable, the lower the battery voltage the lower the waste.

author: analogix
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 05:20:42 pm
content: Quote from: Nisei on August 18, 2015, 02:36:44 pmDon't sell yourself short because that's one of the better and more detailed tutorials I've come across -excellent work! And you seem to have more than basic knowledge if you ask meAs a simpler alternative to this modification -I read about someone just connecting two LEDs (through a resistor) to the battery terminal and through the mode switch so that the backlight is always on as long as the meter is powered on. Does anyone know how much more power the meter would consume with this and if it would cause any issues and drain the battery noticeably faster than without the LEDs?

author: commie
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 07:22:38 pm
content: HiThere is something confusing me here, does the UT61E come with a back light as standard?, The reason I asked, I have been reading some threads going back 4 years regarding the UT61E and it would seem it doesn't have a back light? However, if I read the up to date spec. on the UT61E it claims it comes with a back light. So does the UT61E come with a backlight as standard or what?

author: mariush
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 07:40:14 pm
content: UT61E has no backlight. The manuals and tech specs are for all models in UT61 series, some models have backlight, some don't. There's usually a YES / NO or a checkmark / x icon , or it says (model x only) when it comes to each feature.Also, the english uni-t version of the site is sometimes updated less often, so it could be the tech specs on that version of their website are not current (but I doubt it)This mod adds backlight by adding surface mount led on the side of the lcd display which is controlled by that small pcb.There's another mod out there which uses a tiny microcontroller to hook into the functionality of a button (i think the yellow one but I'm not sure) and when you kept the button pressed for a particular amount of time it would turn on a led.

author: commie
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timestamp: August 18, 2015, 07:50:10 pm
content: Quote from: mariush on August 18, 2015, 07:40:14 pmOkay thanks for the reply, so what does this mean:http://www.rapidonline.com/pdf/85-4068.pdf

author: mariush
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timestamp: August 18, 2015, 08:00:48 pm
content: It means that in September 2010 (date is embedded in the pdf file), some support desk/geek from Rapid Online went to Uni-T's site and hit "print to pdf" to create that document.Since 2010, Uni-T has corrected the tech specs page, you can see it here:http://www.uni-trend.com/en/product/2014_0729_802.html(hit the Parameter or Contrast buttons).

author: commie
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timestamp: August 18, 2015, 08:08:56 pm
content: Quote from: mariush on August 18, 2015, 08:00:48 pmHmmm...yeah I see what you mean, thats a shame because it is ideal for 4..20mA calibration work.Thanks anyway.

author: Nisei
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 08:58:25 pm
content: Quote from: mariush on August 18, 2015, 04:38:34 pmThank you so much for all the information.Like I already mentioned I have very little experience with electronics. Perhaps you get an idea of my inexperience when I tell you that 2 weeks ago I didn't even know what a voltage regulator looked likeI'm already glad I could build something that only uses 3mA quiescent current (that's what the AMS1117 draws) and 15mA when in use compared to the original 30-35mA the original posted circuit was using.But your comment stimulates me to read further (I have no idea what some of the things you mention actually are, yet) and understand what can be improved and most importantly; why.Nevertheless, I'm happy with it and 9V batteries can be bought dirt cheap nowadays

author: Nisei
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timestamp: August 18, 2015, 09:16:16 pm
content: Quote from: analogix on August 18, 2015, 05:20:42 pmThanks for the kind words but really, I hardly know anything about electronics.When I'm interested in something I read, read and read and apply that little knowledge to come up with something myself. Ask me what a transistor is and does and I have to answer that I don't have the slightest ideaAbout the always-on mod; no idea. But I can only imagine its current draw would be 3mA less than my mod when the LED's are lit and being the same brightness.

author: Maxlor
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timestamp: August 18, 2015, 10:52:54 pm
content: Really neat! Your solution inspired me to investigate those touch sensors, and I think I found a way to do it with a single chip, thanks toMicrochip AN1298. Let me sketch it out:You need an MCU with a 10bit ADC, and your touch pad connected to, say, channel ADC0 (I used a jumper wire attached to a piece of aluminium foil, just like Nisey). Now repeat these tree steps:1. Sample VDD with the ADC to charge the internal sample&hold cap. Since the Atmega32u4 can't do it internally, I connected Pin ADC1 to VDD and sampled that.2. Set the ADC0 pin as an output and drive it low to drain any charge from the touch pad. wait a few microseconds, then configure ADC0 as an ADC input again.3. Sample ADC0. The stored charge in the sample&hold cap will start charing the touch pad, until they reach equilibrium. The voltage is lower as the capacitance of the touch pad increases.I got typical value of around 630 (out of 1023) with the foil at rest, and around 605 when my finger was hovering above it. Thus I programmed a simple algorithm that samples every 50ms and stores the last 20 values. It checks whether the current value is at least 16 units lower than the maximum seen in those last 20 values, if so, it assumes a button press. I added some hysteresis and a release delay, and got pretty reliable "press" detections.What I plan to do next is:replicate the same with a PIC12F1822 in PDIP form factor (because I have those here.) Use BAT- (negative battery terminal) and GND (many places, e.g. one of the screws holding the display) as power source. Note: in the UT61E, GND sits 3V above BAT-. Connect the PIC to the BKLIT pin of the ES51922 chip in the UT61E, and connect the LEDs to the BKOUT pin (so yeah, I'll be using the 60s timeout, which works for me.) Since I only need the single chip, I can glue it dead bug style onto the PCB and solder some wire directly to the pins.What's not yet clear to me is whether the BKOUT pin can source enough current for two LEDs, and whether it really swings by 6V as the datasheet claims, or whether that's a typo and it's only 3V.The only thing I lack at the moment are small enough LEDs. I guess I'll wait a bit longer until the next parts order.

author: Penguin36
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timestamp: August 19, 2015, 07:15:45 am
content: Very nice mod!Q: Whats the max. current on TTP223 output?

author: Nisei
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timestamp: August 19, 2015, 09:51:14 am
content: Quote from: Penguin36 on August 19, 2015, 07:15:45 amThanks.Hadn't thought about that one yet. It's nowhere in thespecsheet. Strange...

author: Nisei
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timestamp: August 20, 2015, 02:53:02 pm
content: Quote from: Maxlor on August 18, 2015, 10:52:54 pmVery interesting!Although I don't understand most of what you're describing I think it's really cool you can program a chip like that yourself.But just wondering; are you going to do it for fun or to save money? I've bought 10 of these TTP223 modules for only $7.50

author: Maxlor
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timestamp: August 20, 2015, 06:57:07 pm
content: Quote from: Nisei on August 20, 2015, 02:53:02 pmJust for funAnd to apply a newly learned trick.

author: Nisei
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timestamp: August 20, 2015, 07:47:20 pm
content: Quote from: Maxlor on August 20, 2015, 06:57:07 pmAh, great! I'm like that as well. Can you keep me posted how things are going please?

author: Nisei
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timestamp: August 22, 2015, 11:21:09 am
content: Quote from: mariush on August 18, 2015, 04:38:34 pmI'm still not sure why you prefer bringing the voltage down to 3.3V.Like you said, the bigger the difference between input and output voltage, the more heat and waste. The efficiency I'm looking for is most important for regular use, which is when the backlight is switched off. So isn't it logical to drop the voltage as little as possible? Efficiency with backlight switched on may be less because of the higher value resistor used but that's only in the odd occasion when you need it (probably less than 5% of the time for most people).I'm thinking about using theMCP1702T-5002E/CB.The pinout is different from the AMS1117 but I've already finished the drawings and can change the tutorial as soon as I've got it confirmed working.

author: mariush
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 22, 2015, 01:52:51 pm
content: You're right it won't be much of a difference when the led is lit but it will make a difference while the whole thing is idle, waiting for you to tap the meter to turn the backlight on.The whole point of your circuit is to light up a LED, let's say one with a rated forward voltage of 3v and 10mA.Your circuit consists of that AMS1117, that sensor chip, the led and the resistor. The AMS1117 you say it uses 3mA when idle (quiescent current), let's say the sensor chip uses 1mA , the led and resistor will use 10mAWithout doing anything, your circuit will use 3-4mA of current from your battery regardless of voltage, so if your battery is 9v you'll have power loss of (9v-5v)x0.04a = 0.16wA better regulator will use maybe 0.1mA when idle and the sensor chip itself will probably use less current at lower voltage but let's say it's still 1mA , so now your power loss is (9v - 3.3v ) x 0.011a = 0.06 so about 3 times lower energy wasted when idle.If you power led from 5v, you'll need a resistor to limit the current at 10mA : 5v - 3v = R x 0.01 , 2 = R x 0.01 => R = 200 ohm The power dissipated in the resistor will be P = IxIxR = 200 x 0.01 x 0.01 = 0.02wIf you power led from 3.3v, the resistor can be much smaller, less waste 3.3v - 3v = R x 0.01 , 0.3 = R x 0.01 = 30 ohm and you'll only waste 0.003w in the resistor.I just think it's better to concentrate the heat into one location (the regulator) instead of producing heat in several places (resistor and regulator and maybe sensor chip also)But the difference between consuming 11mA (10mA for led and 1mA for the rest) vs 15mA (10mA for led, 4mA for others) is the important part because of using 9v batteries.The UT61E will show a low battery voltage at around 5.6v but it will happily run with as little as 3v without any errors in measurements.Let's imagine you have a 9v battery that's close to being discharged, let's say it's measuring 6v when taken out of the multimeter. By default, with the multimeter's normal consumption of 2-6mA (depending on mode), this is low enough that the battery will be capable of operating properly.If you add the 3-4mA of idle current from your circuit, you're going into the area where such a depleted battery may have problems keeping the voltage and delivering 8-10mA at the same time, so the battery's voltage will sag down from 6v to maybe 5.8v or even less. If you turn on the led, you add an additional 10mA to the load and IF the battery will be still powerful enough to do 16-20mA, the voltage will definitely sag a lot, maybe even lower than 5.6v and you'll see the low voltage indicator prematurely.Of course, you could argue that you don't care, you'll just replace battery when you see low voltage because 9v batteries are cheap. I can understand that.I personally would be pissed to have a circuit that uses more power than the whole multimeter.. like I said, the meter uses maybe 2mA when measuring voltage, with small pulses twice a second when data in transmitted. 3-4mA quiescent current for your circuit is a lot in comparison.MCP1702 seems like a very regulator for this.

author: onlooker
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timestamp: August 22, 2015, 02:32:00 pm
content: From the datasheet: The touch sense chip TTP223 comsumes 1.5uA to 6.5uA when no load. It can deliver 8mA to the load. The working voltage is from 2V to 5.5V.Maybe it is better not to use any regulator, instead, just power it from an existing lower voltage rail,similar to what Maxlor is trying, but not to involving anything else on the main processor IC.

author: Nisei
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timestamp: August 22, 2015, 02:46:32 pm
content: Thanks for the extensive reply but I think you may have misread my post.I'm already convinced about using an LDO instead of the AMS1117 because of its high quiescent current. The AMS1117 is getting replaced with an LDO.I was just curious about your choice to bring down the voltage to 3.3VI look at it like this:If your car could be made 50% more efficient and they gave you the following options, which one would you choose?A: 50% efficiency gain when driving forward, 0% efficiency gain when in reverseB: 25% efficiency gain when driving forward, 25% efficiency gain when in reverseTo me, the times you're using the backlight are so rare that I'd rather concentrate on making the circuit as efficient possible in circuit idle mode.

author: Nisei
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timestamp: August 22, 2015, 08:54:03 pm
content: Quote from: onlooker on August 22, 2015, 02:32:00 pmOoooo.K. So I'd missed this: 8mA sink current, I didn't even know what that meant...Amazing it held up 'til now even while I've been overloading it...Sink current is what it's able to pass through right? When I'm replacing the voltage regulator with the LDO I'll see if 8mA is enough to get decent brightness from the LED's.Quote from: onlooker on August 22, 2015, 02:32:00 pmWell, that was my first idea and I posted a question where on the circuit board I could safely tap a 5V or 3.3V signal from. But no-one responded so I had to come up with something else.

author: Carko
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 29, 2015, 11:20:14 pm
content: Quote from: Nisei on August 22, 2015, 02:46:32 pmBy the way, AMS1117 is a LDOYou probably meant a buck converter (step down voltage regulator).

author: Nisei
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2015, 10:16:33 am
content: Quote from: Carko on August 29, 2015, 11:20:14 pmDoh! Goes to show how little I knowNo, I have replaced the AMS1117 with a much more efficient LDO now (MCP1703) which only uses 2uA quiescent current instead of 3mA.I've revised the tutorial.

author: Maxlor
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timestamp: October 09, 2015, 10:56:26 am
content: I've finally gotten around do finishing this little mod.I've used a PIC12F1822 (because I some spares), glued onto the meter's board with double sided tape. It's powered using the multimeter's -3V and GND rails from two nearby caps. As a sensor, I use bit of copper tape connected to one of the PINs of the PIC. For sensing, I use the PICs capacitive sensing module, since it gave me more robust results in testing than the charge divider method sketched in an earlier posting. Microchip has actually deprecated that method because of noise susceptibility, but I'm getting really good results from it, even without any filtering or double-sampling. It triggers on touch without fail, and so har has never mis-triggered when putting the meter down.One thing that interferes is the speaker. If the sense wire runs near it, a beep will trigger the backlight. The issue goes away if the wire keeps its distance.I run the PIC off its 31kHz internal clock, which is fast enough so for my main loop to run at 8Hz. Power usage is around 20uA, negligible.Originally I planned to use the Cyrustek's builtin backlight function (it has two pins, an input that you pulse low to switch the backlight, and an output pin for the LEDs. Btw, note that the logic level is -3V for low, and GND for high, but that the backlight out pin goes from -3V to +3V.) but it turns out that the Cyrustek only has minuscule current driving ability in the vincinity of 1.5mA. Since I didn't want to add a mosfet, I decided to drive the LEDs directly from the PIC instead. It's advertized source/sink rate is 25mA per GPIO. Unfortunately, it turns out that my chip here only gives me 5.5mA from a single GPIO pin, maybe because it's running at 3V, not 5. So I paralleled two GPIOs, that gives me 8.5mA. Still less than I would have liked (I was aiming for 20mA for both LEDs), but it's usable.If anyone cares about the code, let me know and I'll post it.Things to note: that 0.5mm pin pitch on the cyrustek is a pita to work with. I spent about 2 hours trying to solder a wire to the BKOUT pin, wicking up solder bridges that would inevitably be created, etc. Also, with the limited current sourcing ability of the PIC, I needn't have bothered with the series resistors. Next time, test this first.

author: Nisei
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2015, 03:26:06 pm
content: Quote from: Maxlor on October 09, 2015, 10:56:26 amNice work Maxlor!Do you have a pic of it showing the backlight in action?I'm wondering why you were aiming for 20mA for both LEDs. Or did you use white ones? 8mA is enough for the red LEDs. You don't need to use the meter as a flashlight

author: Maxlor
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timestamp: November 05, 2015, 11:04:27 pm
content: Quote from: Nisei on November 05, 2015, 03:26:06 pmWell, I do now, see below.As for the 20mA, I tested it before by just holding the LEDs in place manually, driving them from my lab power supply, and 20mA looked good. The 8mA is sightly dimmer than I would have preferred. It's usable though, so I let it be.

author: Nisei
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timestamp: January 01, 2016, 10:42:54 am
content: Nice!Looks great.

author: extreme
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timestamp: January 02, 2016, 09:06:11 am
content: Great modI buy this unit and it will come in a few days.Please help me for some question.Can i use green led ? If yes, what ohm and what type of resistance ? (metal,carbon....)Thank you.Happy new year !!!!!!!

author: hugo
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timestamp: January 03, 2016, 04:30:09 pm
content: QuoteI'd like to see it please ...Thanks

author: extreme
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timestamp: January 05, 2016, 04:03:50 pm
content: Quote from: extreme on January 02, 2016, 09:06:11 amPlease, someone can help me ?Thank you

author: mariush
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 05, 2016, 04:30:02 pm
content: Yes, you can use any color led, though it would be preferred to use one that requires less forward voltage (like, almost any color besides blue or white which typically need at least 2.4-3v to light up).It can be any resistor type and the value of the resistor you pick based on how many leds you use (one or two), the voltage you use and the forward voltages.For example, assuming 5v power , two green leds with forward voltage of 2v and you want 10mA (0.01A) then the resistor value is (5v - 2x2v) / 0.01a = 1v/0.01a = 100 ohm ... You'll have two green leds and a resistor, all in series, one chain.The power wasted on the resistor itself would be P = IxIxR = 0.01 x 0.01 x 100 ohm or 0.01w so any resistor rated for 0.125w or higher would be enough.If you use 3.3v, then you won't be able to connect the leds in series, you'll have to use one resistor for each led (connected in series to it like in the pictures above) and connect the led+resistor sets in parallel to your power supply.In this case you'll have R = (3.3v - 2v ) / 0.01 = 1.1v / 0.01 = 110 ohm , so you'll probably use 110 or 120 ohm resistors, both standard values (120ohm would result in slightly less than 10mA current)

author: extreme
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 09:18:52 am
content: Thank you for reply, you was very clear.I bought a mix of smd led with below data sheet:3528Emit color: WhiteCCT: 5350-5900K IV: 1000-1300MCD VF:3.0-3.3VEmit color: YellowCCT:587.5-590NM IV:100-180mcd VF:2.0-2.2VEmit color: GreenCCT:511-514NM IV: 700-1000MCD VF:3.0V-3.3VEmit color: redCCT: 620-625 IV: 100-150 VF:2.0-2.2VEmit color:BlueCCT: 460-465NM IV: 180-300MCD VF:3.3-3.6VEmit color: OrangeCCT: 600-625NM IV:1100-1300mcd VF:2.0-2.2VSo in series i think go only red , orange and yellow colour, while in parallel the others.Is it right ?Which is the right amp with 2 leds for this project (10mA-15mA-20mA) ?Thank you

author: mariush
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timestamp: January 06, 2016, 11:31:00 am
content: There is no right current, there's only a maximum current for them. In the datasheet, it should say how much current the led can handle and for how much time -There should be one line saying something like Peak Current 200mA for 0.1s or duty cycle 1% meaning something like 1ms on, 999ms turn off to allow to cool off. This tells you that you could design something like a camera flash if you need it, but it's obvious that's not the case here.There should also be one line saying the maximum current in a normal way, if the led is turned on 24/7, it's a smaller value. For SMD leds, it's normal to see values like 20mA , 50 mA etcThis doesn't mean that you should design you circuit for this maximum value because the leds may be too bright with so much current or, the amount of brightness change between 10mA and 20mA may be so small you wouldn't notice, in which case it would be smarter to go with the lower current value.You have to experiment and see how bright you want the back light to be. Resistors are really cheap, so I would recommend starting with 5mA, then going with 10mA and if you're still not satisfied, maybe go for 15-20mA. It's easy to replace resistors.I'd suggest trying those orange leds first. I have a hunch they may be quite bright even at very low current values.

author: Maxlor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 06, 2016, 02:43:46 pm
content: Quote from: hugo on January 03, 2016, 04:30:09 pmHere you go:http://maxlor.com/files/UT61E_Backlight.zipSome pointers as to what's going on:The files in mcc_generated were generated with MPLAB Code Configurator (it's hidden under Tools/Embedded in MPLAB X). The only thing I added manually were 3 lines in TMR0_ISR().Measurements are done using the PIC12F1822's builtin Capacitive Sensing (CPS) module. It charges/discharges the measurement cap (my copper strip) using a small constant current source/sink.TMR1 is driven by the CPS module, so every charge/discharge cycle increments TMR1.TMR0 is configured to trigger approximately 8 times per second. It takes the current TMR1 value, stores it in capCount, then resets TMR1. So capCount contains my cap cycle frequency (divided by 8.) This happens in the TMR0 interrupt, outside of the main loopThe main loop waits until capCount has been changed from its default of 0. When it has, it compares the value to lastCapCount. If capCount is smaller, that means the capacitance has increased, maybe because the user put his finger on the sensor. At the end, capCount is set to 0, so we notice when it's next updated (by TMR0_ISR).The trigger condition takes two successive cycles into account, because the detected capacitance change might be distributed over two measurement cycles. Using only two means that slow changes are ignored.Finally, "-100" is the sensitivity; increase the value (i.e. move it closer to 0) to make the detection more sensiive.The chip runs on the 31kHz LFINTOSC. It's fast enough for this application, and it makes power consumption negligible (it should be on the order of 75uA with LEDs off.) If you're keen, use the LF version of the chip and disable the watchdog to get to about 9uA.

author: joajas
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 12, 2016, 12:05:19 pm
content: Hi Nisei,Thanks for the great tutorial.I am facing an issue with the triggering, I don't know if you have the same issue.1. The backlight gets turned on and off when taking measurements with the UT61E. And sometimes after this the backlight will not turn on when I touch the foil area.2. If I turn the DMM before plugging in the probes, the action of plugging in the probes might turn on the backlight. Especially so when plugging into the COM port.When it works, it works beautifully, when it fails, its kinda frustrating.Any idea whats wrong?

author: Maxlor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 12, 2016, 05:31:56 pm
content: That is likely caused by the wire leading to your cap being too close to some other components. Keep it short and away from the piezo speaker and digital circuitry. Some Experimentation might be required.On my first attempt, I had looped the wire around the piezo. Every beep would reliably toggle the backlight :-)

author: joajas
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 13, 2016, 08:40:38 am
content: Quote from: Maxlor on January 12, 2016, 05:31:56 pmThanks Maxlor!After some troubleshooting, I found that the sense wire was not properly connected to the aluminum foil that was stuck to the top of the meter. Fixed that and now its working reliably, not more false triggers and lock outs.

author: gyrex
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 03:40:01 pm
content: I'm a real dummy when it comes to electronics but I've since been bitten by the bug and am excited about exploring new electronics projectsAnyway, I'm going to attempt this mod on my DMM but have a quick question - how are you guys connecting the aluminium to the wire? I've heard that soldering to aluminium is a real pain in the backside? Also, is it possible to use some stock standard aluminium foil taped down rather than aluminium tape?I've ordered all the parts and while I'm waiting I thought I'd ask. Thank you to the OP for posting this mod!!!

author: MrSlack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 03:53:07 pm
content: Alu is easy to solder to. You just have to get the oxide layer off first and it's no more difficult than anything else.

author: gyrex
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 08:03:56 pm
content: Quote from: MrSlack on January 26, 2016, 03:53:07 pmThanks! How does one get the oxide layer off? With flux? Sorry for the stupid questions but as I said, I'm learning

author: MrSlack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 10:19:35 pm
content: There are no stupid questions, just stupid answersI use a bit of wet and dry sandpaper but you can drag a knife edge over the surface a few times and rotate the wire at the same time to scrape it off.

author: TacticalSnacks
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 21, 2016, 04:38:05 am
content: Thanks for the awesome tutorial! I was in the need of a new DMM, saw this mod and used it as an excuse to learn about transistors and touch sensors. I may have gone a little overboard. Pictures and such heregoo.gl/pAmFpu. Boards are shared on OSHPark.I still have the auto power off to finish, but I really want to start using my meter

author: MrSlack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2016, 09:59:48 am
content: Quote from: MrSlack on January 26, 2016, 10:19:35 pmLate reply but I use a kitchen scourer pad to do it.

author: Fcolon76
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 29, 2016, 04:24:47 am
content: Hi, could you post pictures of the inside of your finished MOD? I'm just asking because I have no idea how to shield the circuit board. I would love to see your pictures so I can try to duplicate yours. Please. Also doing this MOD will it mess up your multimeter readings??? Thank you for your time hope to see those pics!

author: Nisei
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2016, 03:15:54 pm
content: Quote from: Fcolon76 on March 29, 2016, 04:24:47 amI will soon because I'm going to make some changes. I'll take pics when I've opened it.

author: Nisei
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2016, 03:28:34 pm
content: Quote from: TacticalSnacks on February 21, 2016, 04:38:05 amWow, that's awesome! Wish I had the skill to do that.Maybe you'd like to know I've altered the tutorial now:Instead of a 5V regulator I'm now using a 3.3V regulator and have wired the LEDs in parallel.The reason: the regulator needs an input voltage that's around 2V higher as its output voltage.So the 5V regulator will need 7V to work.However, the UT61E can still work below 7V. This means that once the battery gets below 7V, the meter still works but the LEDs start flickering since the regulator doesn't get a high enough voltage.Using a 3.3V regulator will only require 5.3V input voltage to work reliably so you can use your battery much longer while still being able to use the backlight.When using a 3.3V voltage regulator you should wire the LEDs in parallel because in series you end up with only 1.65V per LED.

author: Nisei
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2016, 03:33:59 pm
content: Quote from: gyrex on January 26, 2016, 03:40:01 pmYou're welcomeNo need to solder the wire to the tape. Just take 2 pieces of aluminum tape, both sticky side down, and sandwich the bare end of the wire between them.

author: Martini
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 01, 2016, 04:27:25 pm
content: I don't own a UT61E but read the topic with interest and thought I could share an idea with you:Why not build a capacitive swipe-switch to choose how bright you want that backlight to be (through PWM)?

author: TacticalSnacks
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 14, 2016, 01:10:51 am
content: Quote from: Nisei on April 01, 2016, 03:28:34 pmI can't take credit for truly discovering the regulator I used (I'll thank Felix Rusu over at lowpowerlabs.com) but the Microchip MCP1703 low drop out regulator will still put out 5V when it's getting 5.7V from the battery. It also has an ultra low quiescent current so when you're not using the backlight, the regulator is only pulling a few uA's.

author: Mike60
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 14, 2016, 11:19:40 am
content: I order MCP1703 - 4V, TTP223 ( two different boards ). I receive MCP and one TTP223 ( red board ).From TTP223 it is enough output amperage to turn on two LED's in parallel ? I suppose NO. In specs are 8mA !I will try on bench before installing on to UT61E.

author: TacticalSnacks
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: April 15, 2016, 12:23:08 am
content: Quote from: Mike60 on April 14, 2016, 11:19:40 amNo, the TTP223 shouldn't be used to source or sink current. Instead, use a transistor tied to the TTP223's output to drive your LED's. See schematichere.

author: Mike60
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 12:11:36 pm
content: [quote author=TacticalSnacksNo, the TTP223 shouldn't be used to source or sink current. Instead, use a transistor tied to the TTP223's output to drive your LED's. See schematichere.NO. I don't need to install supplementary transistor. It is enough current from TTP223. From data sheet theorethically 8mA. With two leds i have 11.7mA. MCP1703-4V. I try before with another resistors ( now it is 47ohm ) but current remain the same. Maybe it is output current protected.I like this brightness more like my another two DMM because are not white/blue color.I need to do something better with touch-sensor.RegardsMike

author: Pacote
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 18, 2016, 02:31:30 am
content: Can I use a cheaper voltage regulator for this like this one?http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-pcs-AMS1117-3-3V-1A-Voltage-Regulator-AMS1117-3-3V-SD9-/131816681209?hash=item1eb0e2eef9:g:YscAAOSwH71XOccK

author: mariush
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2016, 03:08:11 am
content: Yes, you can use those regulators, they're generic 1117 linear regulators.Note however that they output 3.3v only as long as the input voltage is higher than about 4.3v, the voltage dropout is 1v, much larger compared to MCP1703. Also, this particular series of regulators is kind of picky about the output capacitors, it prefers an electrolytic capacitor but you can use a ceramic capacitor as long as you put an extra resistor (something like 1-3 ohm) in series with the output capacitor.So basically it's either use a larger electrolytic (compared to ceramics) or use a tantalum capacitor (expensive) or you use a ceramic capacitor and an extra ceramic resistor on the board.

author: Pacote
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 16, 2016, 12:55:47 am
content: All my stuff arrived and I did the full mod but no power...If I solder the 9v from the pcb to the MCP1703 I get a dead multimeter...I bought these...http://pt.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-10PCS-MCP1703-3-3V-SOT-23-MCP1703T-3302E-CB-original-authentic-100-new-original/32639467660.htmlMaybe the pinout is different somehow?EDITED:Yep, all working nowThe chip I purchased has a different pinout. Soldered in again, correctly now and everything is working \o/Well... Something changed... because its measuring my 5V and 12V power supply as 5.12v and 12.22vHow can I try to calibrate it?

author: demonmk
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 27, 2016, 11:24:24 am
content: i did this but my multimeter stoped work pls help me guys what to do now i remove this system and still show me open line OL on all function how to fix this thanks

author: Maxlor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2016, 09:43:27 pm
content: Show us some photos of your modifications.

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 27, 2016, 11:03:31 pm
content: Or do it with a photo sensor.https://youtu.be/S36LfKmSjKw?t=329

author: hugo
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 28, 2016, 12:42:45 am
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on September 27, 2016, 11:03:31 pmBrilliant ... pun intended

author: demonmk
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 28, 2016, 12:10:11 pm
content: Here is some picture but i removed the system... first i want to make it work without backlight then maybe i will try to install backlight again. for now im scared that i burn my new multimeter i hope u will help me guys how to fix this thankshere is video:https://youtu.be/2HYyrsPP9jI

author: joeqsmith
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 28, 2016, 12:30:43 pm
content: Perhaps no ESD projection while you worked on it? Looks like some solder on the side of the one resistor. Perhaps there is solder in other places where it should not be. Maybe all that wire jammed in there is preventing one or more switch contacts from making proper contact.On the plus side, it's a cheap meter. You can always get a new one and start over.

author: Maxlor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 30, 2016, 07:16:52 pm
content: Since we're trying to diagnose a fault here, we really need to see the area that you modified on the PCB too, not just your LEDs.

author: bourinov
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 07, 2018, 10:04:38 am
content: I just modified my UNI-T 61 - everything works well. I have green light... Thank you!

author: The_Boots
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2018, 04:25:55 am
content: I know this is an extremely old thread, but I still wanted to thank you! It worked well and I learned a lot. I had to make a few changes (different ttp board, got a little pcb to stick the regulator on cause it's so tiny), which makes it a very tight fit, so I'll probably keep tinkering with it. It looks great though!

author: seanspotatobusiness
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 17, 2018, 02:33:30 am
content: Which areas of the PCB do I need to avoid when threading my led power wires from the back to the front?

author: Pluscrafter
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 09, 2018, 10:16:24 pm
content: Will the CAT rating remaining and could you use normal LED's insetead of SMD LEds?

author: Maxlor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 12, 2018, 12:00:19 pm
content: Quote from: Pluscrafter on November 09, 2018, 10:16:24 pmCAT rating: well, no, if you mod the meter, it falls to you to determine how safe the meter is afterwards. But... this isn't the sort of meter you want to be using if you're worried about CAT ratings, in my opinion.normal LEDs: they'll work if they're small enough. there's not much height available, around 1.5mm iirc? If yours are small or thin enough, sure, it'll work.

author: jayjr1105
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2019, 02:57:58 am
content: Quote from: joeqsmith on September 27, 2016, 11:03:31 pmCan you tell me/us what parts you used. Any regulators? Resistor values and just an NPN and PNP?

author: jayjr1105
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 03, 2019, 05:26:44 pm
content: On another note. I finished phase 1 of the mod. Right now I have backlight if the meter is on. I can't decide if I want to go photoresistor or touch sensor.I've heard Blue isn't the best color for this because of the higher voltage drop but I love the contrast with the red. I also have them in series using a tiny buck converter dialed down to 6v. I'll probably move this down to parallel depending on which phase 2 I decide.Any recommendations?BTW, the buck converter I used.https://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-Mini360-3A-DC-Voltage-Step-Down-Power-Converter-Buck-Module-3-3V-5V-9V-12V/132416658988?hash=item1ed4a5de2c:g:djUAAOSwGPNcUg0c:rk:7:pf:0Would this be more efficient than a mini regulator?