Tektronix eBay scams - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Omicron
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2014, 01:01:19 pm
content: Although I've had good experiences buying stuff on eBay for the most part, in the past months I've run into two separate sales that I suspect were attempts at fraud. I've no hard evidence off course, but I decided it would be a good thing to share my experiences. Especially since on both occasions the subject item was a modern Tektronix 4000B series oscilloscope that might entice other members of this forum. These are not the cheapest things around by a long shot!The first experience I had was with a seller in the UK that put up a DPO4104B for a little under 3000 euro's. As new complete with probes, the whole enchilada. Sound a bit too good to be true? Yep, but the seller offered complete paypal buyer protection so I thought I'd give it a shot and I bought it. Sure enough the item is marked shipped a day after I paid. A week later though and nothing had arrived. I'm in Belgium so shipping from the UK is usually 3 days. Two weeks later, three weeks later..same story. Contacted the seller. I must say that from the get go he was very slow in responding. He claimed he "lost" the receipt he got from the parcel service so no tracking number. Then he claimed the item was "stuck in customs" (I'm pretty sure there is no customs for shipments within the EU). Finally I decided to open a dispute on eBay. Now with the paypal buyer protection program you have a certain deadline for submitting a claim for a refund. Curiously 2 days before this deadline I receive a message from paypal. An e-check was sent to me with a full refund. Yay! Right? Wrong! Turns out an e-check is only definitive a week or so after you receive first notice of it. That didn't sound right to me. So two days later I decided to file a claim anyway. And I was happy to have done so as a week later I got another message from paypal telling me the e-check bounced!! In my opinion this seller had been trying to trick me into not filing a claim before the deadline. I must say though that once I did file the claim Paypal did take good care of me. I made my case and a couple of weeks later I got a full refund! The moral of this story:- don't trust paypal e-cheques!!- paypal buyer protection does work, but stick to the deadlines no matter what the seller says or doesThe second experience I had was just recently. A seller in Italy put up an auction for a Tektronix MSO4104B, complete with probes etc etc. Even had some serial decode options installed. Starting bid 1000 euro's. Sounds good right? I put in a low bid and basically forgot about it as I never expected to win this auction. Much to my surprise a week later I won the auction for 1500 euro's. What? 1500 euro's for a scope that still sells new for close to 20.000 euro's? What's going on here? There was only one other guy who had bid on this auction. Closer inspection revealed why. Seller has no feedback at all. First auction on eBay. Ok, that can happen right? Everyone needs to start somewhere. But wait...payment...only accepts direct bank transfer. What? No buyer protection whatsoever. This is starting to sound iffy. I really should learn to pay more attention before I bid! And to put the last nail in the coffin: when the seller sends me his bank details it turns out to be a POLISH bank account and address. Huh? This item was being presented as being sold from Italy? Needless to say I haven't paid.Off course now I have an "unpaid sale" in my ebay account. Anyone knows how to get rid of that? Already contacted eBay customer support and explained my concerns.Moral of the story: if you see expensive Tektronix equipment being offered for sale within the EU at hard to resist prices: be extra careful! If the seller has no feedback and does not offer you a paypal payment option with full buyer protection: back away!

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2014, 02:18:59 pm
content: If something is too good to be true it probably isn't.I've seen plenty that were obviously dubious - fortunately only ever got scammed once and it was a low price item.I know everyone has to start somewhere but I have to confess that I'd be pretty dubious about bidding 1500 euros on an item where the seller has no feedback. Don't Ebay in italy (or Belgium) insist on sellers accepting PayPal?Often, though, scam sellers actually have good feedback but when you look at it it's for large numbers of small, unrelated items. Then they apparently have several high value items for sale, often at apparently low prices. By the time Ebay or PayPal catch up with them they've pocketed the money and are long gone.

author: Omicron
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2014, 02:45:22 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on January 30, 2014, 02:18:59 pmIn fact that described the UK seller in my first story perfectly! I initially trusted him because he had pretty good feedback. But like you said, it was for things like USB serial adapters and second hand hard drives. All cheap stuff.eBay got back to me by the way. They recommend me not to proceed with the purchase and told me to contact them again if the seller makes a fuss over it. So looks like I'm in the clear.Fortunately neither affair has cost me any money. The sick part of it is that my first experience actually had me more confident placing bids because pay-pal buyer protection process worked out really well. I bid on this item from my phone and hadn't checked the payment options. Ooops! Lesson learned for next time!

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2014, 04:32:01 pm
content: Quote from: Omicron on January 30, 2014, 02:45:22 pmI remember a similar eBay scam. Part of that scam was that the scammer changed the payment options while the auction was already running. I don't know if eBay still allows to change the payment options. If they do you might not have missed anything when bidding.

author: Stonent
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2014, 05:13:58 pm
content: I don't think I've bought anything with a value of more than $100 from eBay.

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2014, 05:45:54 pm
content: I recently had to make a video of an item to show a customer it really existed after he had a couple of bad experiences, so perhaps there is a phase of it happening.Quote from: Stonent on January 30, 2014, 05:13:58 pmI try and only sell things that are more than £100. I just cannot be bothered picking and packing an item that only costs a few pounds. I'd far rather sell one £1000 item than a hundred £10 items. I've now got my feedback to a state where people can see that have a lot of happy customers buying that sort of item.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2014, 06:08:06 pm
content: I bought a Tektronix 2247A a few years ago for $240, and a BK 4040 function gen for $200 not long after, both work fine - no problems. Of course, I got ripped off once for $100 before I learned about the time limits for claims.

author: marshallh
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 31, 2014, 06:05:26 am
content: If you suspect a scam, copy the main auction image and run it through Google Image search reverse search. Usually you'll find its ripped from some other auction a few weeks prior, or someone's personal site.

author: retiredcaps
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2014, 07:40:55 am
content: Quote from: rdl on January 30, 2014, 06:08:06 pmI made a similar mistake in trusting the seller to wait a few more days when I haven't received the item. Of course, I waited past the ebay resolution date and was left with no recourse. Emails to the seller asking for a refund or help all went unanswered.Now I know better. I always open an ebay resolution case before the cut off date.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2014, 08:15:58 am
content: QuoteAt least Ebay sort-of takes it seriously these days as they knew their act needed cleaning up to compete with the Amazon Marketplace - which seems to be what they're trying to do.I got scammed for a £30 router back in the days when ebay had something like a £20 "administrative" fee to investigate a case (which was not refunded even if you "won") so it was pretty clear all I could do was take the hit. That got ebay a terrible reputation which still sticks.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2014, 01:02:53 pm
content: Ebay has certainly become more risky in terms of scams. I have over 2800 feedback so have been around on ebay a log time and witnessed the change. I have lost count of the number of scams that I have reported that involved stolen images and dodgy payment methods on expensice kit. They keep re-appearing though. Most have used stolen user accounts, so they look legit !Another nasty development has been the increase in Schill bidding. For those unaware, a seller places an item for auction and a relative, or friend, places bids to push the legitimate bidders higher and higher until the seller is happy with the bid amount. They use relations and friends in an effort to avoid linking back to their address or account. Be very wary of auctions where a mystery bidder keeps bidding small amounts to push you to your Max Bid and then stops bidding just below it. The other trick is to bid a high figure, note the high bidders max bid amount, withraw the high bid, and them re-bid just under the noted amount. I had this happen three times in one auction for a trail-cam. I realised what had been going on and after winning the auction, reported it to ebay as suspicious activity. Ebay investigated, whilst I was on the phone to them, and confirmed that the unusual bidding behaviour was a scam as the bidder was a family member living at the same address as the seller ! Ebay said that they would warn the seller to behave and they refunded me all the money that the schill bidding had cost me (GBP25). Ebay's one error was to provide me with the Schill bidders real name !!!! I wrote to the seller and made him aware that his scam was blown and he was daft to use his mothers ebay account against me. He admitted the scam, stating that the Trail-Cam was worth the money I paid so what was the problem ! He did say sorry though. There are some very 'unusual' people using ebay and their moral compass can be very unreliable !

author: VK3DRB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2014, 01:45:51 pm
content: Reminds me I got scammed right here in Australia on eBay about 10 years ago. No buyer protection back then.The username of the scammer was MOTORHOUSE.He was buying big bulky items COD and getting them all shipped to a bogus post office box in Traralgon. The Post Office was filling up with his bogus purchases. He never paid and the device I sent him was eventually returned to me. I was only $70 out of pocket.He did this to other people and I was able to contact them. I heard his Telstra email account closed not long after "he" apparently subscribed to about every newspaper, magazine, and porno website on the planet. This happened in the days before junk mail filters and opting out junk sent more junk mail. One of his victims had got revenge. MOTORHOUSE was a moron.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2014, 02:45:09 pm
content: The only way to sensibly bid on ebay auctions is either to use the ebay proxy bid system and place your maximum bid early onand then ignore the auction until it's finished. Or, even better, use one of the sniping programs. This is better because the act of bidding before the auction is complete only serves to push the price up.This way you won't pay more than you think an item is worth and because there are fewer bids while the auction is running there is less chance for the shills to get in.It does turn ebay into (even more) of a sealed bid system but it pretty much amounts to that anyway.As a seller I list most things buy it now and only auction stuff if I'm really not sure what it will fetch or I'm having a clear-out and just want stuff sold by a specific date.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 31, 2014, 03:18:30 pm
content: I just remembered another scam that was attempted against me.I bid on, and won, a brand new Fluke 87 III. The price was mid market so not a barfgain as such.It was boxed and all looked to be in order as the seller had significant and excellent feedback.The parcel arrived a few days later, intact and all looked fine. Upon opening the 'as new' FLUKE box, I found the Fluke manuals in sealed condition and the cocodile clips in new condition. But no FLUKE or test lads. I contacted the seller and he immediately responded stating that he had personally checked the box contents and wrapped it so it must have been opened in transit and the meter stolen....... the stench of bullsh*t was overwhelming !I had already done some investigation on the parcel. No evidence of tampering and it was sent by Second Class mail. I weighed the parcel, as received, and then added my other FLUKE 87 to it to find the weight that it should have been at time of posting. Checking Royal Mail 2nd Class prices on-line revealed two anomalies. 1. The postage cost written on the parcel was correct for a weight that DID NOT include the meter or leads. 2. The weight, with a FLUKE meter included, exceeded the maximum 2nd class service weight limit.I presented these facts to the seller and received an immediate refund but no explanation. You have to be smart to successfully con people, or pick on those with less brains than yourself. This guy was a prize idiot for trying such a poorly prepared con. I reported his behavior to ebay and interestingly he was no longer registered when I checked some weeks later.There was also the case of an oscilloscope stand that I won. The seller seemed legit, with good feedback. He also sold a Hameg oscilloscope and some other expensive test kit. To cut a long story short the stand never arrived and he claimed it had been lost by the courier. I contacted the winner of the Hameg oscilloscope and he was in the same position as me, no delivery and a claim of courier loss. The seller did refund after a delay to see if the parcel would turn up. I later saw the same items (all of them) being auctioned by a different seller ID. The location and the pictures were all the same though. I contacted the seller and he admitted that he was the same seller I had bought from. He claimed that the items had turned up unexpectedly so he was re-selling them. I walked away. I later saw in his feedback that he had done the same trick on those later auctions as well ! Buyers stating non delivery and delays in refunding etc.He was either not happy with the prices raised, or was operating his own interest free short term loan service to himself, using ebay buyers money ! He had our money for around 4 weeks before having to refund....cheaper than WONGA.com !

author: R_G_B_
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 03:17:47 pm
content: is this a scam:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321740955836?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AITimage in google search says so.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 03:55:38 pm
content: firs ttime seller , requesting to send email before bidding 'otherwise bids will be cabceled'.this stinks across the galaxy ...

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 03:58:07 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on January 30, 2014, 02:18:59 pmTime for a positive story: A couple of months ago I bought a quite expensive oscilloscope from someone in the Czech Republic with 0 Ebay feedback. I tried to take every precaution I could take so I paid through Paypal using a credit card (double buyer protection!). Fingers crossed and knock on wood every 5 minutes until it arrived. Fortunately the oscilloscope arrived well packed and was completely as it was advertised.Quote from: R_G_B_ on April 30, 2015, 03:17:47 pmYes, this is a typical Ebay scam.

author: at2marty
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 08:10:37 pm
content: I have bought and sold quite a few things on Ebay over the years. The only time that I had any problems were from a buyer (I was the seller). My wife had upgraded her Iphone to a newer version, so after wiping all of her data off of the phone I put it for sale on Ebay. If I remember right, it sold for around $100 U.S. + shipping.About a week after the sale/payment/shipping I got a message from the buyer (written in very poor English) that the phone was "not as described" and that it didn't work properly. He stated that he took it to a repair place that charged him $35 to diagnose it, and they told him that it needed a software upgrade that would cost $80. He stated that the diagnostics and "repair" should be my responsibility, and that he wanted me to refund him the purchase amount, otherwise he would leave negative feedback on the transaction.Of course, I pointed out to him that the phone worked just fine as shown in the photos that I had posted, and it was being sold AS-IS with no refunds. I offered to refund his money minus the shipping charges if he sent it back to me. He refused and left me negative feedback.I opened up a dispute with Ebay and presented my case, including photos that I had posted in my ad along with the fact that I had posted in my ad that it was being sold AS-IS with no refunds. I also told them of my offer to refund his money anyway if he sent it back to me, and that he refused.A couple of weeks later I got a message from Ebay stating that they had received numerous complaints from this particular buyer, had suspended his account and removed the negative feedback from my account.

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 09:20:53 pm
content: I wonder what the view is on Craigslist?There are apparently some pretty reasonable oscilloscope deals going on around here (London, UK)http://london.craigslist.co.uk/search/sss?sort=rel&query=oscilloscopeLike ebay, many scopes don't come with appropriate probes.(I now understand why probes often aren't included: as an occasional seller, anecdotally I've found that appropriate probes don't seem to add much to the selling price).

author: woodchips
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 09:41:11 pm
content: Have to agree with the raising a dispute no later than 2 weeks after the sale, takes ages and sellers dragging it out seems quite common, and lucrative.Also I doubt you will get any joy from the credit card company. Your transaction is with ebay/paypal and NOT the seller. Was an interesting example of this on the radio but dealing with internet contracts, you deal with the middle man, not the service provider.

author: Bassman59
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 10:08:52 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on April 30, 2015, 09:20:53 pmCraigslist has the advantage that the buyer and seller exchange cash for the item in person, and as such the buyer can easily inspect the item right in front of the seller so there is no confusion.Of course many Craiglist buyers will throw low-ball offers at anything that's for sale, or worse, offer something unrelated in trade.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 10:31:16 pm
content: High value stuff, low feedback (in this case from a no-longer registerd user) = red light .add Invitation to contact outside of ebay - definite scamI have seen this item listed at least 3 times from zero/low feedback usershttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221758915742

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 10:32:40 pm
content: Quote from: Bassman59 on April 30, 2015, 10:08:52 pmThat's my understanding, but I have no Craigslist experience. What confuses me is why these items are so much less than similar items on ebay. As has been said, if a deal looks too good to be true, etc. but I'd be interested on views if these are genuine?

author: Bassman59
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 10:44:07 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on April 30, 2015, 10:32:40 pmMy wife and I have bought and sold a handful of things on Craigslist. Since the transactions are all in person, they all went smoothly. That seems to be the consensus among my friends, too. Craiglist makes it pretty clear that you should NOT deal with anyone unwilling to meet in person, and they point out various scams that have been tried.Craigslist is the online equivalent of the newspaper's want ads, or those displays one used to see at the front of a supermarket (fill out a card with item description and phone number and post the card on the display). Basically, it's for folks who want to get rid of stuff.eBay has gone from being a place where folks could get rid of stuff to being a for-profit operation for many sellers. It is a totally different. It's very easy to scam someone from another continent. Not so much when they're standing across from you.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 10:51:06 pm
content: What if I were to list some new boxed Tek MDO3104 4 channel 1GHz scopes with 3GHz spectrum analyser option plus lifetime trial options for all other options on eBay for silly low prices. Sometimes real 'too good to be true' things are available. You EEV lot all know where they came from so it can happen.I do admit I'm a gambler though, I like a bit of 'risk/reward' adrenaline!!

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 11:28:49 pm
content: In Canada the local police now offers their parking lots and stations to complete local online transactions.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 11:29:28 pm
content: @Toploser: still trying to flip that Tektronix thing? No doubt there will be a happy buyer amongst the EEVblog crowd.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 30, 2015, 11:45:53 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on April 30, 2015, 11:29:28 pmMore than one 'thing' flipped and more left to flip. It's what I do.

author: atferrari
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2015, 12:33:29 am
content: Quote from: Bud on April 30, 2015, 11:28:49 pmNice idea.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2015, 09:33:44 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on April 30, 2015, 10:31:16 pmI reported this & it's gone now

author: IanJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 01, 2015, 02:02:38 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on April 30, 2015, 11:28:49 pmExcellent idea!Ian.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2015, 02:29:08 pm
content: Sometimes you can also win, when it "looks to good to be true", because nobody is taking the risk.About a year ago, I found a listing on eBay Italy for an Agilent 2 Channel 33510B Waveform Generator, starting price at Euro 600. Seller hat no feedback and only accepted bank transfer. The red flag was all over the page. I tried to contact the seller and he answered in broken English. To make the story short, I won the auction for Euro 600 as the only bidder, sent him a bank transfer and got the generator in like new condition.http://www.datatec.de/Keysight-33510B-Funktionsgenerator.htmSometimes it pays to take a risk.But then ... I have been burned as well, but never really bad, because usually the transaction was protected.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2015, 02:47:12 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on May 01, 2015, 02:29:08 pmI'm pleased it worked out for you.However I have to say that even (as a seller) though I might sympathise with a seller's desire not to use PayPal, as a buyer I would not touch a 600 euro purchase with payment by bank transfer.You havenoprotection if it goes tits-up, none, zip, nada.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2015, 04:55:17 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on May 01, 2015, 02:47:12 pmWell, there is one thing you can do upfront.You tell the seller that for international money wire transfer, you need to have all his information verified,like name address and phone number and a copy of the ID.Actually this seller did send everything, since he wanted the money.Not a real protection at all, but some little bit piece of mind.

author: ez24
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 05, 2015, 04:54:08 am
content: I would love to see a "sticky" topic on "How I Got Screwed on Ebay"or better politically "How to buy on eBay"- my advice - it is like Las Vegas - win some - lose some- I like low number feedbacks (they haven't figured out how to screw you)- just assume you are going to get screwed and you won't be disappointed- remember eBay is the biggest thief's market in human history (be glad that we are living to see this)and it would be interesting reading, hearing all the good and bad ebay storiesI have both, and I have picked up a couple of good ones by reading some topics on this forumany interest in starting a petition on this ?

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 05, 2015, 04:58:33 am
content: Quote from: ez24 on May 05, 2015, 04:54:08 amThere is such a thread, not only for ebay but in general:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/consumer-alert-2nd-no-3rd-pass-through-the-spam-bot-filter/

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2015, 07:26:50 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on April 30, 2015, 10:32:40 pmIn response to my own question, it would appear anecdotally that these "deals" are indeed too good to be true.Over the past couple of weeks I have tried to make a deal on three scopes. Typically, it starts off reasonably well I ask three very simple questions, (a) where is the item located, (b) when can I collect, and (c) what is your phone number. Invariably I will get only a single answer to one of the questions, an address hundreds of miles away from where I am (London) despite them being advertised as being local. Aberdeen and Yorkshire seem popular. Those other questions, well, they always remain unanswered.The exchange continues, but when pushed to get a time to come along and pick the item up, it dries up, I assume because they want you to wire them the money and then deliver bugger all.For grins, I did indeed go to two of the addresses last week, and neither of the current occupants had any knowledge of the individuals or any sales.So, I'd say yes, these deals are in my experience too good to be true.

author: atferrari
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 19, 2015, 12:26:07 am
content: Everybody has a greediness moment...and greediness makes us stupid.It is not directly related to scopes nor Ebay but an inteligent revenge taken by a gentleman with ingenuity and time (the last, you will also need, if you decide to read the story here):www.419eater.com/html/joe_eboh.htm

author: mzzj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 19, 2015, 11:39:14 am
content: Quote from: atferrari on May 19, 2015, 12:26:07 amCant compete with Anus Laptops and Wilson Tarbuckleshttps://thescambaiter.com/forum/index.php/topic/17878-anus-laptops-the-martins-cole-saga-complete/"Hammer of deadening"

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 19, 2015, 01:06:20 pm
content: I laughed myself to tears at both scambaiters. I couldn't do that, I don't have the patience to carry on the bait that long. For all the people that these morons scam, it's nice when it comes back to them. Greed, obviously, works both ways.

author: m100
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 19, 2015, 04:20:42 pm
content: Not just Tek stuff there are regular listings on ebay of very large industrial machinery (usually CNC lathes and milling machine) , usually located in remote places of the UK (Shetland, Orkney, Outer Hebrides). Always at a bargain price 'buy it now' of say 10-20000 pounds or about circa 30% of retail with flat rate shipping at a bargain price of a few hundred pounds.Always the same modus operandi. Zero feedback, seller shortly going overseas, bank transfer insisted upon, no chance of viewing*, photos lifted straight from genuine dealers / commercial auction websites often in the USA, if additional photos are requested they are also lifted from the same sources and there are often discrepancies between the listing photos and any additional ones. The quality and brightness of the daylight in the photosalwaysgives it away and above all the sellers commonly appear semi literate.* Tried to view one once for a laugh as I was only a few miles away from their claimed location on other business, told me the item had just been moved to their Glasgow depot, ok I said I'll call in tomorrow, email silence ensued

author: atferrari
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 19, 2015, 06:30:35 pm
content: Quote from: mzzj on May 19, 2015, 11:39:14 amCertainly funny. At a certain point I got lost on where each player was, but what matters is the scammer got his own medicine. Not bad!Nice that Wilson offering his brand to anyone!

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timestamp: May 26, 2015, 03:14:06 am
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author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 26, 2015, 03:19:47 am
content: I described another ebay scam and how it works:http://www.eevblog.com/2014/11/11/anatomy-of-an-ebay-scam/

author: KedasProbe
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2015, 08:52:21 am
content: I got one (not a Tektronix item) that kept saying that he resend it again (3 times) and I had to wait 3-4 weeks since it's from China, he didn't want to use tracking, eventually it timed out and I couldn't give negative feedback for not receiving my package.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 27, 2015, 04:09:04 pm
content: Quote from: KedasProbe on May 27, 2015, 08:52:21 amThat is why:ALWAYS OPEN AN EBAY / PAYPAL CLAIM WHEN AN ITEM HAS NOT ARRIVED! NO MATTER WHAT THE SELLER PROMISES!After opening a claim there will be several weeks of time for an item to arrive.