Another Desktop SMT machine. - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2016, 06:36:07 am
content: $5k might buy you a bunch of stuff from RobotDighttp://www.robotdigg.com/product/1022/Dispensing-placement-machine

author: Spikee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2016, 06:51:05 am
content: Here you go:https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-2189914904.27.pcgpUN&id=534444534872Equivalent to SMALLSMT VP-2500 (D?)

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 06, 2016, 05:18:06 pm
content: Quote from: Spikee on December 06, 2016, 06:51:05 amLooking it at, i think your right...

author: Spikee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2016, 02:04:50 am
content: The one with linear guides and ballscrews looks like a good one.The question is if the Visionplacer software will work on this (smallsmt).

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2016, 02:35:03 am
content: I dont' think it will be an SmallSMT machine as SmallSMT is the exclusive global dealer I think.

author: Spikee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2016, 03:28:16 am
content: AFAIK smallsmt is just the EU reseller.But for this amount of money I would prefer the CHMT-530P4

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2016, 09:08:07 am
content: Quote from: Spikee on December 07, 2016, 03:28:16 amNo i'm sure he said he was the global distributor and he was in charge of software development. This can't be the same machine.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 07, 2016, 09:38:16 am
content: Quote from: mrpackethead on December 07, 2016, 09:08:07 amThis is the same machine. He said he sells it worldwide but not in China. In China they are sold by the company which produces them. Also on some pictures provided by him "AutoSMT" was seen.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 07, 2016, 09:43:55 am
content: Just look on videos in post by Smallsmthttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/manufacture/smallsmt-vision-placer-pick-place-machines/msg938180/#msg938180AutoSMT is clearly visible.

author: Spikee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2016, 10:12:04 am
content: It looks like a nice machine. But if the visionplacer sw (SMALLSMT) does not run on this than you are fucked.Since it uses these separate strip feeder movers that might be hard to get to work using other software like openpnp.Since this is the only machine I have seen that does it this way.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 07, 2016, 10:19:58 am
content: Quote from: Spikee on December 07, 2016, 10:12:04 amThis seems like the same software in chinese.http://www.smallsmt.biz/software/

author: Spikee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 07, 2016, 10:25:20 am
content: I asked smallsmt a few days ago about his machines.And if there was a place where I could buy them in china since I am located there.No response yet. I'm not going to gamble like 3K on that.The machines with ballscrews seem very stable and the feeder system seems to work good.The visionplacer 3000 software (should also support VP2500 VP2800) is even better for small BGA work (detects the balls) etc.The VP3000 seems like a winner but if it's really produced in germany than the price will be to high to be competitieve in chinadue to the import cost. or they must have a good distributor here.I have asked about this but like I said no response.

author: Smallsmt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2016, 10:05:56 pm
content: Spikee if you're located in China you can buy direct from Yusheng no problem.But he need to support you.Our VP-3000 can be shipped to China but you're right the import costs will not be cheap.The focus for VP-3000 is Europe and America it's another class more like a production machine.For our Chinese machines wait until new year we will add better tape winder mechanics soon.A machine having push feeder and Yamaha CL feeder will follow too.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2016, 11:02:16 pm
content: Micheal are these RoboDig machiens the same as your mahine or something different

author: Smallsmt
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 05:37:35 am
content: The Robodigg machines are sold from yusheng too because they are a Chinese distributor.For the belt machines they maybe same but the HP machines we use different partsOur contract doesn't allow yusheng or any Chinese distributor to sell overseas so we will see what's happen.

author: mrpackethead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 13, 2016, 06:48:35 am
content: Well clearly not selling to the Chinese Domestic Market when the price is in USD.