Multimeters from Vichy and Vici - same company owner - Page 1
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author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 07, 2015, 11:33:31 pm
content: Apparently the multimeters from Vichy and Vici are from the same company:http://www.vicimeter.com/en/newshow.asp?sendid=117I have been in contact with this company, and provided the following feedback to them:1) Vichy name is better choice than Vici name in Europe. Seems like they made the wrong choiceSuggested that Vichy corresponds to quality in Europe, and that Vici is hard to pronounce by most people in Europe2) SMD components and automated soldering. Suggested that they should drop through-hole and manual soldering, to improve the quality of the product.3) HRC fuses and isolated ring in the enclosure. Suggested to use high-quality HRC fuses and a proper isolated ring enclosure, to provide better protection when the meter would blast.Will keep you updated on the improved quality procedures at "Vichy"

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 01:53:30 am
content: Quote from: pascal_sweden on May 07, 2015, 11:33:31 pmHmm... Have you heard ofVichy France?That was France under the Nazi regime. Lots of deportation of Jews and non-French to the camps including Auschwitz.Selling Vichy in China is one thing, few of them know much about Vichy France. In Europe? Not a good idea. That is a sore that I think few would want to be remind of.Rick

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 07:51:55 am
content: Okey. Did not know about that regime, although I am from Belgium.But what about Vichy in the cosmetics? They don't seem to suffer from this?

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 07:54:38 am
content: I'm French and something modern (ie, created after WW2) that uses the name Vichy makes me cringe...So much so that I would probably not buy it.Stuff that was allready called Vichy before that (water, sweets etc) does not bother me.It's about as sensible a name as Mussolini Sand&Mortar, Generalissimo Franco Bug Spray or Dai Nippon Teikoku kitchen knives...

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 08:43:42 am
content: I missed that. So now I feel a bit stupid about my mail to ChinaBut I don't like Vici either... so they simply have to come up with a new name

author: Wytnucls
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 10:10:30 am
content: Sushi?

author: Macbeth
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 10:56:09 am
content: I have a trusty Vichy VC99. I affectionately nicknamed it Hitler.I'm English and know of the Vichy French "collaborator surrender monkeys" (spit!). I'm surprised a Belgian doesn't know. Maybe it's an age thing, but I'm of the 1970's not the 1940's. Maybe it being closer to home they don't like to teach the bad bits of history over there?

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 11:46:08 am
content: Quote from: pascal_sweden on May 08, 2015, 08:43:42 amDoesn't "Vici" mean "Restaurant" in latin?I don't know my declinations...Romanes eunt domus

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 11:50:33 am
content: Quote from: Macbeth on May 08, 2015, 10:56:09 amIf they are Flemish, ask them about the Vlaams Nationaal Verbond...It was in the news this week.

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 12:13:24 pm
content: Yes I know this flemish partyBut didn't recall Vichy in this setting.

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 12:48:09 pm
content: Quote from: pascal_sweden on May 08, 2015, 12:13:24 pmSame shit, different country.I often get called out for history stuff like that, spoiling the fun of casual racism."Time have changed, not the same people, etc".But, alas, he who forgets history is bound to repeat it.

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 01:18:18 pm
content: Quote from: gildasd on May 08, 2015, 11:46:08 amI came; I saw; I had a fabulous Risotto alla Milanese.QuotePeople called Romanes they go the house ?Quote from: pascal_sweden on May 07, 2015, 11:33:31 pmI wouldn't hold your breath...

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 01:36:40 pm
content: Quote from: rolycat on May 08, 2015, 01:18:18 pmYep, that's why Brian got in trouble for it ;-)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_ite_domum

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 01:56:51 pm
content: def transform_thread(multimeters, monty_python_skit):(...)too damned funny. I didn't expect a sort of spanish inquisition in a thread like this.(oh oh)

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 02:02:12 pm
content: Veni, Vidi, Vici.The company "come" with their VC-97 multimeter.Engineers "see" at their specs and realize that it's not that bad at all for only 25 USD.Electronics circuits get debugged and the engineers "conqueror" with their new electronic design

author: Rick Law
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 04:12:56 pm
content: Quote from: pascal_sweden on May 08, 2015, 08:43:42 amHey, don't. No one knows everything. You did what you thought was good for them.If they are so dumb and not do their research, it would be their fault. There is a possibility that their French outlet was the first to tell them: "You don't want to call it Vichy here. How about Vici..." Hence the two name for the company, which is not unusual.World is full of little quirks. Names like Vichy would need at least few more generations to "clear". Some wounds cut particularly deep. Nazi is probably one of them. Even today, we still use the word "vandalize" when some Northern European tribe call Vandals ransack Rome over 1500 years ago.That said, when the word Nazi and the word China came in the same note, I can't help but bring up the nameJohn Rabe(Director of Siemens China then). He was a Nazi member in Nankjng China. During theRape of Nanjing, he did so much to help the people of Nanjing to the extend thathe wrote Hitler to ask his helpto stop the Japanese massacre. He used the Nazi flag to shield the Chinese seeking his help. He headed the Safety Zone organized by a few private citizens: Germans, Americans, Danes, and Englishmen.The Safety Zone sheltered over 200,000 Chinese from likely death.Well of course Hitler didn't help. The Gestapo has their ways of making you have a bad day, so things didn't go so well for John Rabe upon his return to Germany. He did live long enough to know how much the people from Nanjing appreciated him - 1948, Nanjing's mayor delivered a collection they made to help him and his family deal with his dire situation. He died a couple of years later. Not so long ago, his grand son unveiled a statue of him in a Nanjing museum.http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6415407

author: gildasd
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 08, 2015, 05:50:53 pm
content: Quote from: rolycat on May 08, 2015, 01:18:18 pmThat's one of the problems with Latin (I might be wrong), if you put the 3 together, it means one thing.Separate them, they might mean something totally different...In other words, when using a Latin word as your trademark, corner a Latin Professor, pay him a beer and ask.

author: pascal_sweden
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 11, 2015, 01:34:31 am
content: I have mailed Vichy to hear if they also have frequency counters and signal generators.They have a section on their website for those items, but the product section is empty.Will provide more info when I receive feedback from them.