THE 64. A "new" version of the C64. Or maybe not... - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: MadModder
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 02:01:55 pm
content: What a pile of BShttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-64-computer-and-handheld-console/x/10829146#/There is rendering after rendering, and no info on the hardware at all.

author: BlueBill
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 02:17:37 pm
content: I'm pretty sure there's a C64 on a chip already in the wild, also I can still find genuine C64 computers at thrift shops.

author: MadModder
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 02:31:28 pm
content: Yes I got 7 of them in a box, and one modded C64DTV (and one unopened), so no need for yet another one.To my knowloedge there's the asic in the C64 DTV by Jeri Ellsworth (does not support cartridge port), and there is an FPGA version used in the Chameleon project (not open source), and some emulated one with an STM32.And then there is that C1 also by Jeri. But it's far from a single chip.A C64 is a quite complex bastard not easily done properly in a single chip.It is possible to emulate it on one of the many available single board computers.But this campaing smells bad.

author: edy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 04:56:26 pm
content: Quote from: BlueBill on April 16, 2016, 02:17:37 pmYou mean like this one:http://hackaday.com/2014/10/23/a-complete-c64-system-emulated-on-an-stm32/and here:http://www.swinkels.tvtom.pl/swinsid/

author: Kilrah
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 05:53:26 pm
content: Quote from: edy on April 16, 2016, 04:56:26 pmDamn... I'm working on an STM32F4-based device that has 2 built-in joysticks, a nice color screen, some sound output, an SD card slot... porting this to it would just be awesome, especially for the "oddity factor" since the device has a completely unrelated purpose and target market. Hmmm.....

author: daybyter
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 07:18:56 pm
content: http://mega65.org/

author: MrSlack
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 08:41:10 pm
content: At least it's not an Amiga.

author: Delta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 16, 2016, 11:30:31 pm
content: Quote from: MadModder on April 16, 2016, 02:01:55 pmBS indeed. They claim to have "working prototypes ongoing" (whatever that means) - if they had a working prototype there would be video after video showing it in action.The C64 was my first computer, and I still have several which I mess with regularly. I might have to set the "sceners" on these scammers!

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2016, 07:46:53 am
content: "Indiegogo"whenever i want to get enraged i just open the weekly email and look at the all new smarted most connected buzzword bullshit. it's all cancerous

author: snoopy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 22, 2016, 01:12:06 am
content: They're campaign would be more credible if they were offering a time machine so you could go back in time and purchase the original C64

author: Kean
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 26, 2016, 12:48:02 pm
content: So, they've posted a video of "stable firmware running on our pre-production hardware"It just looks like an OLinuxino A20 Lime running a C64 emulator (maybe VICE) with many of the extra I/O ports obscured by tape.Maybe the board is hacked a little to get HDMI audio (not sure that is standard), but this is what I'd considervery preproduction!

author: bitslice
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2016, 10:37:21 pm
content: These retro rebuilds leave me cold, they all use a FPGA.To me the whole nostalgia around the original computers is tied in with the hardware, so anything that doesn't use an actual 6502 or a Z80 chip isn't a proper retro.It's not as if we are lacking in old processor chips, eBay is full of them.God I sound like a hipster, but using a FPGA is such a cop out, you might as well just load up a software emulator and run it on a iPhone.Compare this nonsense with the MTXPlus+ project where you can rebuild an 80's computer with actual 80's hardware.To me that sounds great, to rebuild an original but make it better and faster.http://www.primrosebank.net/computers/mtx/projects/mtxplus/mtxplus_pcbs.htm

author: helius
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2016, 10:42:13 pm
content: Quote from: bitslice on August 26, 2016, 10:37:21 pmThe C64 Reloaded is doing it "the right way". It's a new production C64 mainboard with added features, and no RF modulator. Use the CPU and SID chips that you prefer.

author: bitslice
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 26, 2016, 10:50:21 pm
content: Quote from: helius on August 26, 2016, 10:42:13 pmPleased to see someone remake it, thanks for the infohttps://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/c64-reloaded.html

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 27, 2016, 12:00:25 am
content: Ooh, ZIF sockets!

author: snoopy
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 27, 2016, 11:35:43 pm
content: Quote from: bitslice on August 26, 2016, 10:37:21 pmYou can still get compatible 6502 chips from mouser and even FPGA cores which is probably what these dudes are usinghttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/mouser-6502-motorola-6800-cpu-processor,14557.html