Going to De Anza flea market on Sat? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: bronson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 02:22:42 am
content: If so, what are you hoping to find? Best show of the year since gear has been piling up since Oct.Me, I want a solid analog scope. I miss my Tek 7904 but have no desire whatsoever for another mainframe. Maybe a 454a or 2235a?Could also really use a simple diff probe. Dunno though, most diff probe manuals are downright scary (in that 250 pages for a 10 page problem way)

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 05:20:49 am
content: Never been there. Does it tend to have a significant amount of electronics? I don't see much herehttps://www.deanza.edu/fleamarket/docs_forms/report_merchandise.pdf

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 06:03:17 am
content: Quote from: zapta on March 07, 2014, 05:20:49 amNot that one!http://www.electronicsfleamarket.com/

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 05:07:09 pm
content: I live almost across the street from de anza college, so I'll go, for sure, tomorrow.(there is free parking behind the strip mall area that is near the jewelry store on the corner, near Mary ave.)

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 05:45:10 pm
content: i'll be there !

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 06:59:55 pm
content: While I'm stuck here. Tell me what is there.

author: MatCat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 07:01:14 pm
content: IF it wasn't a 6 hour drive I would go.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 07:03:33 pm
content: Quote from: MatCat on March 07, 2014, 07:01:14 pmIf it wasn't a 48 hour driv...

author: Fluxed Matter
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 07:05:01 pm
content: I will be there too! Looking forward to this Saturday.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 07:05:09 pm
content: Quote from: echen1024 on March 07, 2014, 06:59:55 pmif we're allowed to take pics (sometimes, people don't like it, although its usually crafts fairs that artists object to having their stuff photo'd) I'll bring my cam and take some shot and post.I am NOT a fan of getting up and BEING places at 5am!! it closes at noon, too. gonna be hard to get up so early.

author: Fluxed Matter
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 07:14:34 pm
content: I don't know about 5am but more like 7:30 am.

author: GiskardReventlov
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 08:32:29 pm
content: Sounds like a big market. If I was close I'd get an early breakfast, some hot coffee and hang out to be there when it opens. Early bird gets the worm! I bet lots of people here would watch video or look at pics.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 08:59:42 pm
content: Quote from: Fluxed Matter on March 07, 2014, 07:14:34 pmeverything 'good' is gone by then and half the vendors are packing up to call it a day.(kidding). but you do have to get there early, as a rule. it sucks, but that's the rule

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 09:14:17 pm
content: You just have to get there before Vince, who will sniff out the bargains...........

author: bronson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 09:37:57 pm
content: The last hour is great for bargains too. Some sellers don't want to haul heavy stuff back home, let it rot for a month, and try again. It's unclear whether the last hour is 9am, 1pm, or somewhere in between.But c'mon, what would you like to see? Presumably not acres of shite Apple and Beats counterfeits. I blame you for this China!

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 09:46:04 pm
content: Old equipment porn. Military avionics ( my favourite) and just who is around. Stuff that cost an arm and a leg when new, but now is there for just scrap metal prices. Stuff made with pride in the design and workmanship.

author: GiskardReventlov
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 10:00:50 pm
content: I wonder what kinds of things Dave would buy, if here were there, for a teardown? Maybe some old LORAN equipment? Inertial guidance systems? Maybe on old, old scope? An old Cray? Old laboratory equpment, like a mass spectrometer?

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2014, 10:39:57 pm
content: I would be looking for a good analog friend for my DS1074Z, a spectrum analyzer, and maybe a RF generator.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 12:09:00 am
content: Quote from: linux-works on March 07, 2014, 08:59:42 pmIf so, I will go to halted in the afternoon instead

author: edavid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 12:15:14 am
content: Even if you get there at 10, it's still fun.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 12:44:06 am
content: halted just bummed me out, today, though ;(was looking for parts for the 2465b and saw TWO of them listed at a good price for HSC/ebay. ran over there right away, but they didn't have them. seems they sold them and didn't bother to take them off the ebay listing ;( poor form, HSC, poor form!but I still left with more than $100 worth of goods. they had a scope cart there for under $70 that was in great shape, so that one, apparently, followed me home, somehowI didn't really need a 2nd 2465b but it would have been a nice parts doner or backup for my other one. oh well. must not be greedy (although there was a guy there buying up ALL the spare p6137 probes and left NONE for me, sniff.)

author: Fluxed Matter
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 02:30:49 am
content: With all this talk I might just have to show up at 5am!

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 02:46:06 am
content: I'll look forward to some pics. Since for me it's not 6 or 48 hours drive, it's the opposite side of the world. And I have neither the money for a plane ticket, or a UFO.Minor consolation - there's a big box sitting in the Sydney depot of TNT transport for me, having just arrived here in Sydney overnight from Los Angeles. A nice present for Monday morning. Contains a pile of equipment manuals, and also a 'for spares' HP 54120B.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 02:48:18 am
content: if I see any nixie displays there, I'll be thinking of you(really like that avatar; I've recently gotton into nixie things, myself)

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 03:13:51 am
content: Quote from: linux-works on March 08, 2014, 02:48:18 amWell that just makes it worse. Not only is it miserable that there are no huge electronics fleamarkets here, and I can't go to the US to see such things, now there'll be someone at De Anza thinking of me "Ha ha, that TerraHertz sucker, so funny he's not here."Because youwillsee nixies.QuoteI like them not just because they look neat, and are a reminder of earlier times (before the world went to shit), but also because they are such clean demonstrations of many subtle plasma physics effects. Double wall barriers, etc. Anything with a hard or near vacuum, and interactions of electrons, ions and fields, fascinates me.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 05:02:00 am
content: I'll be wearing a black jacket with a big bold TESLA logo on the back in red letter.I just emptied out both my trunk and frunk ... Plenty of space for a 'haul'....

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 05:11:58 am
content: Take a blanket for the passenger seat as well, just in case you need a place for some fragile stuff that will ride up front.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 02:07:31 pm
content: Quote from: SeanB on March 08, 2014, 05:11:58 amAwww. Look at that little oscilloscope all wrapped up cozy.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 06:41:46 pm
content: I didn't go early, and I just got back. didn't buy anything (didn't see anything I wanted).took over 200 photos, thoughas soon as I upload them I'll post a link to the album.it was a fun walk. lots of old timers there.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 09:22:03 pm
content: yeah. it was pretty weak . even some of the vendors i know said it was pretty weak.some of the ususals weren't even there !i got a few reels of parts for 1$ each. a whole reel of 2n7002 mosfets 1$ … same for a reel of 7HGz reed relays.and a few gpib cables for 5$ a popi was there at 7:15 left at 8:30.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 09:22:20 pm
content: pics are up!http://www.netstuff.org/deanza_2014_mar_08/index.htmllet me know if that single-page of html thumbnails is too much for your browser. I just threw together all the images from the camera, ran thru imagemagick and created downsized images and thumbnails plus an index.html file. no gallery software, just static old-school htmlso if this does not work out well, let me know. to see an expanded view, click on any thumbnail and then use the BACK browser feature to return to index.enjoy.

author: krivx
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 11:16:24 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on March 08, 2014, 09:22:03 pmAnd that counts as weak? Sounds like you made out like a bandit.

author: krivx
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 11:22:50 pm
content: Quote from: linux-works on March 08, 2014, 09:22:20 pmWow, thanks for uploading. It's amazing to see this kind of culture of engineering.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 11:29:14 pm
content: the bay area (aka, silicon valley) is very expensive to live in, but I really enjoy the concentration of hardware and software (and science-type guys) here. today was tee-shirt and shorts weather, too (spring comes very early here).

author: MatCat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 11:37:37 pm
content: How often do they do this flea market?

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 08, 2014, 11:41:20 pm
content: info:http://www.electronicsfleamarket.com/

author: bronson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2014, 12:23:35 am
content: Yeah, it WAS weak. That theory about pent up supply? Debunked.I saw very few analog squgglers in decent shape. One guy wanted $160 for his beat up 20 MHz Phillips. You could probably hear my snort from the coffee truck.Apparently the Halted guys had trouble with their new truck (old one vandalized?) so they were late and light, and I don't think any of the other test equipment shops showed up. Priority definitely wasn't there. I miss them.So I settled for far more scope than I wanted: Paul Rako's old 2465B. Not enthused to have another cranky high end Tek in my life -- I wanted something cheap, easy to fix, with a flood of spare parts -- but hoping for the best.True, the weather was great.

author: bronson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2014, 12:40:29 am
content: No pictures of me linux-works but you got a shot of my new scope:http://www.netstuff.org/deanza_2014_mar_08/scaled/P3085842.JPGI'm guessing the broken holdoff knob will be more painful than just yanking the old one off and sliding a new one on? These knobs don't budge. Holdoff works fine, you just need to twist the ex-knob with a screwdriver.Every time I pass that Metcal guy's table I have to fight the urge to run to the ATM... Either he needs to stop showing up or I need to give in.And anyone buy the 5216A?http://www.netstuff.org/deanza_2014_mar_08/scaled/P3085938.JPGI love mine but I couldn't justify $80 for another... The nixies sure are pretty.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2014, 12:41:24 am
content: YOU bought that scope!?!?damn.lolI just met him there, we chatted a bit and I took his card. was going to call him. and YOU went and snagged that nice pre-50k B scope!hahahaenjoy it.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2014, 01:46:02 am
content: Quote from: bronson on March 09, 2014, 12:23:35 amGo outside, and a look towards your southeast 1886 miles. You will see a big blotch of green. Yep, that's me filled with envy at your new scope.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2014, 01:55:04 am
content: I saw it first!and I planned to come back later, after a full pass thru all the aisles.SNAP! gone.too funny. it was actually the most memorable item I saw there. I tried to buy the cover part but he wouldn't part with it

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2014, 10:55:00 am
content: Quote from: linux-works on March 08, 2014, 09:22:20 pmThanks!Ha, what's weak to you guys, is awesome to us.Lucky I wasn't there with a few hundred to spend. Not a single dollar would have returned.The Tek curve tracer... sigh.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2014, 01:00:03 pm
content: Quote from: bronson on March 09, 2014, 12:40:29 amI bought some tips for wellers from him and a roll of his thinnest solder.His solder is cheap and good (kester or multicore) and 63/37. Not that lead free green-eco-twat stuff.

author: GiskardReventlov
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2014, 01:41:21 am
content: @linux-works, thanks for the pics, looks like a decent show to me.

author: Vgkid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2014, 02:34:48 am
content: It would be hard to resist those Marantz amplifiers without researching them first... if they were priced cheaply.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2014, 03:02:28 am
content: speaking of solder, some guy was selling solder at super low prices, almost too low:http://www.ebay.com/itm/331127605665$3.99 for each roll and combined shipping. I bought 4 rolls. amazing! does not seem fake, seems to work just fine. 4 rolls will hold me over for at least a few years

author: bronson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2014, 05:05:07 pm
content: Quote from: linux-works on March 09, 2014, 01:55:04 amMan, I took HOURS to make up my mind. Plus a trip to the ATM. Plus more soul searching...I thought the dual current probes just to the left were the most interesting (but $900, urkkk). I don't think they sold.That curve tracer caught my eye too but I FO SHO don't have bench space for it. Anyone see what it was going for?The 7CT1N is pretty close to perfection if you're committed to the 7000 series. The only interesting 7000 stuff I saw was a digitally triggered timebase. Is the 7000 finally falling off the map? Or is that just my own selection bias as a recovering addict?

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2014, 05:08:25 pm
content: I planned to return just to chat up paul (didn't know it was 'THE paul rako' that I was talking to; just thought it was an interesting guy who knew his stuff). I was mildly interested in the scope but already have my own 2465b that I'm refurbing.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2014, 05:12:51 pm
content: His stuff was waaay overpriced. he had a 8133 with BERt option and a broken channel . wanted 1500$ for it. with a broken channel it isn't worth 100$.. those things are unrepairable.

author: GiskardReventlov
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2014, 10:55:51 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on March 10, 2014, 05:12:51 pmIt just means he likes his stuff more than anyone else does!There are lots of ebay sellers that have the same problem.

author: echen1024
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2014, 10:57:46 pm
content: Quote from: GiskardReventlov on March 10, 2014, 10:55:51 pmhttp://bit.ly/1dJJQCFThis guy.

author: bronson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 02:05:08 am
content: And this guy:http://www.amazon.com/Microchip-Development-Debugger-Programmer-Pickit/dp/B00CQKB9QQ/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1394503479&sr=8-13&keywords=pickit+3

author: KJDS
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2014, 07:12:40 am
content: Quote from: bronson on March 11, 2014, 02:05:08 amThat's just because he's run out of stock but needs to keep the sale listing in place.

author: GiskardReventlov
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 05:38:05 am
content: Quote from: KJDS on March 11, 2014, 07:12:40 amIt may be so that if all other items like that are sold then that item will remain on amazon. You have to be a bigger seller to create new listings of products that don't exist on amazon. That means you pay monthly to sell on amazon. Anyone can create an amazon store for free but it's limited but it's usually enough to sell stuff you don't need that's not too old or in bad shape. Amazon is a different demographic from ebay but there's overlap.

author: bronson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 09:02:25 pm
content: Quote from: linux-works on March 09, 2014, 12:41:24 amWait, pre 50k what? Serial is 134089?Jury's still out on this one. At first I hated the numb feeling of the controls. It takes a moment before vertical and horizontal respond so I'm always overshooting. ARG STUPID DIGITAL SCOPE FEEL. I started composing an eevblog rant and googling even older scopes... then I discovered the Measure button.Wow.I had no idea.And I thought the readout on 7000 series scopes was cool.Saving and restoring is looking pretty handy too. I think I'm warming up to this thing.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2014, 09:53:36 pm
content: I thought it was less than 50k. maybe I mis-read.I like the idea that the controls are fly-by-wire. the sealed relays (I think they're sealed) are more robust than typical switches. and when you don't send signal thru pots and switches, you have a cleaner path.the non-A or B version of the scope has markings on the timebase (maybe also the verticals) and I actually prefer to read the values on the text labels, on the display. true, if the text stops working, you are hosed, but my eyes are not so good as to be able to read small numbers from the timebase style knobs. the A and B versions of the scope don't have the legends/markings, so the front panel is a bit less 'busy'.see if you have the dallas module inside on the A5 board. like the rest of us, you'll want to replace that asap, before you lose the cal constants. if you need help copying it, I'm around...

author: Fluxed Matter
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2014, 05:42:20 am
content: Anyone going to tomorrow's (May 10th) market?

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2014, 05:53:01 am
content: Meeeeeee !Im easy to spot. Black jeans, black jacket with big red Tesla logo on back.I'll be early.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2014, 01:20:05 pm
content: I will probably go today, too. its walking distance from where I live, so, why not?(maybe I'll wear my 'negative feedback' shirt today)

author: Fluxed Matter
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2014, 02:05:56 pm
content: Hope there something good today. On my way now.

author: Fluxed Matter
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2014, 04:08:26 pm
content: Did not see much today. Maybe next month. I did see a tesla pulling out of the parking lot when I arrived but not sure if it was fe. No negative feed back tshirts. I was wearing my flux cap shirt.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2014, 04:14:38 pm
content: i left at 8:15 , grey tesla (not silver grey, but darker gray, dolphin color).i scored some parts. box of 5000 capacitors 1000uf 50volt for 1$ ...a mica capacitor 2microfarad 4000 volt brand new.a bunch of dale low tempco resistors a box with 10 APEX PA21 power opamps and some other interesting looking stuff like BLY65 amplifier modules for 5$and a bunch of reels with resistors and transistorsi spent 17$ in total. the haul was good.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2014, 05:04:43 pm
content: I saw nothing worth buying, for me, today. was hoping the soldering iron guy would be there, but he was not ;(

author: Fluxed Matter
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2014, 06:00:38 pm
content: Yes it looked like a dark grey/metallic color.Soldering iron guy told me last month he was not going to be here. I hope he's there next month.

author: linux-works
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 10, 2014, 06:20:42 pm
content: how did I end up getting 90 degrees out of phase with soldering iron guy?sigh.