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Backup System for FLIR B3xx/B4xx/T3xx/T4xx/E3xx/E4xx ? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: herades
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 23, 2024, 02:06:12 pm
content: I have a B335 thermal camera where the FLASHFS got corrupted, causing it to get stuck on the startup screen. I followed some tutorials from this forum to reinstall it, and now I can start the system, but it still doesn't work correctly.Does anyone have a backup of it (or a similar one) that I could try copying to my thermal camera?

author: Chanc3
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 12:14:21 pm
content: Have a look through here:https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/04pch8dpx19wql52lejvj/AINjJFnK97rVli5EIZINhdU?rlkey=uwdowwysll6rs5igle2vnjdzv&st=4t7br1mq&dl=0

author: herades
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 30, 2024, 10:53:32 am
content: Thank you very much!Although it's not working 100% yet, I can now use the equipment. The T425 model worked well with my equipment.

author: radioorizont
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2025, 02:21:44 pm
content: Hi thereNot sure if you remember but you helped me quite a bit in the past, i appreciate all the files and advice you posted here on the forum.Recently i bought a SC640 thermal camera in good working order but with an old firmware and because it had a very old firmware i updated it from the official FLIR page with flir_p6xx_11.5.3_update_packfirst by SD method which didn't pick it up at all.then as mentioned in the official pdf i updated through flir install.exe - which warned me it's for wrong model "p6xx" but allowed me to continue, i assume since it's a similar range as sc6xxNow i have a bricked camera and i'm waiting on FLIR to get back with correct file.Would you happen to have an older update pack for these cameras in your archive?Hoping an older update might revive the camera.Thanks.
Inexpensive sub-zero C checking and other hot sources - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: EE-digger
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 09:52:02 pm
content: In the process of re-discovering the joys of ir cameras, I've spent a week playing with hot and cold sources with good emissivity characteristics. I found three possible "tools" this week, at low cost and no cost (already own).1. picked up a cheap Lab-Line multi-blok heater unit on ebay. Had no idea what a blok was other than a possible spelling error. It turns out that they are used for warming, heating test tubes and various other bio and other uses. Dirt cheap and the digital ones have 0.1 degree entry and display and precision control, and a range of 30 to 130C in the "well". I'm envisioning standing it upright and the well is replaced with an appropriately dimensioned block of aluminum with high emissivity face coating. (and one or two additional thermocouples until they prove no longer needed) Hard to beat for under $50.2. This is the sub-zero "toy". Several years ago, a friend bought a tiny 8" tall classic Coca-Cola refrigerator for the desk for around $15, NEW. On our next lunch hour, we ripped it apart in the "Dave" tradition. Basically, you are getting a stack which consists of a 120mm (approx) fan, heat sink with fins facing toward the fan, flat side of heat sink has a Peletier element mounted and on the Peletier, a 40mm square, bare aluminum heat sink which protrudes into the refrigerator.While thinking about heating and cooling, I recalled that this assembly was collecting dust on a home lab shelf. Took it out, fed it 12v which it needs at almost 4A. Stuffed the fins on the small sink with paper towel and on the last fin, stuck a piece of known emissivity black tape. Let it chill and lo and behold,the fin got down to -11CThen terror hit as the whole sink was covered in a very thin layer of frost. A few minutes of studying brought a new smile when i discovered that the emissivity of such a frost layer could be around 0.973. Last discovery, should have been the first, was the small RF environmental chamber which I have. There is a front plate with SMA connectors easily replaced with a blank plate and round hole to shoot through. This chamber rapidly reaches set point and locks with near perfection. My plan is to place an aluminum heat sink with lots of fin area, flat face forward and coated in low emissivity paint. Thischamber goes to +325C. At the cold end it will be limited to a bit above room temp as I do not run the required CO2 or LN2.Just though I'd pass these thoughts along for those whose labs are not yet lined up with precision black body sources. In all cases, I mount two thermocouples near the measurement surface.Yesterday. FLIR gave me a price of $600 to cal my (new to me) E40 MK2. I didn't think to check what it would cost to just check it. This, being retired and lack of a service menu password will keep me happy with my spot checks for now. The image is clean and uniform with everything I could throw at it so far.
Thermal IR in animals - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: tske
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2025, 04:40:34 pm
content: I just read this article:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_sensing_in_snakesSeems like they are using an uncooled BST-like sensor which detect 5-30 μm wavelength thermal energy changes instead of absolute value, with a pinhole lens.I wonder what the equivalent system NETD/MDTD and resolution. They mentioned <1mk "faceplate" sensitivity and "extremely low resolution and contrast", but nothing more valuable.

author: Vipitis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2025, 12:25:33 pm
content: There is a lot of scientific literature on the topic of snake infrared vision. Including exact details of the geometry. I remember finding a publication once that simulated what this could look like. It's linked here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/and-nature-made-a-calorimeterAnd there seems to be more publications doing all kinds of interesting research
Mysterious sensor....... from covid scan kiosk. Can anyone identify it. - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Niall135
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 07:32:47 pm
content: Hi. Hoping to get any info on this sensor. Is it IR or thermal. Many thanks. N

author: DaJMasta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 07:41:18 pm
content: Looks like a thermopile to me, not enough pins on the chip to be an imaging sensor, really.An ID on the chips would probably tell you, since it's the two of them and the sensor and straight to SPI.

author: Smile2016
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 08:34:48 pm
content: Quote from: DaJMasta on February 21, 2025, 07:41:18 pmthermopile IR sounds plausible something likehttps://www.amphenol-sensors.com/en/thermometrics/infrared-sensors/2550-ztp-135bs. Is that a lens or a filter?

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 08:44:34 pm
content: It is a thermopile sensor made by Excelitashttps://www.excelitas.com/product-category/thermopile-sensorsHence the “XL” in its part ID.Fraser

author: Niall135
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 11:32:29 pm
content: There are no obvious markings on the chip. Ta. N

author: Smile2016
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 21, 2025, 11:39:16 pm
content: Quote from: Niall135 on February 21, 2025, 11:32:29 pm2nd picture you are showing has a XL3850 mark. I could not find an Excelitas part # with this... reason asked if there is another lens on top , and some sort of mechanical fixture around the sensor. Seems to be analog , based on 4 solder pads and other components on opposite side of PCB. if you have a thermal camera laying around you could probably see the thermopile sensor's heat signature...
Screen replacement for UNI-T UTi260B - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: jcalmeida79
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 30, 2024, 12:54:48 pm
content: Hello,I ripped the flex cable on my UTi260B screen (don't ask, too embarrassed to tell how). I've looked online for a screen replacement and couldn't find one.Is there anyone here that has a bricked or not working UTi260B that is interested in selling it to me, so that I could harvest the screen? Or just send me the screen.Thank you

author: ynngll
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 19, 2024, 04:07:09 pm
content: https://m.tb.cn/h.g5eXe4bxc6vmTFt?tk=v77NWz1QhCq

author: harm
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2025, 12:07:51 pm
content: Any source for Uti260B display,X280F003A0?Harm

author: tunk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2025, 12:43:27 pm
content: https://www.sinmex.cn/products/28-inch-tft-lcd/82.htmlCheck the specs, there may be compatible screens.
Confused. What to get when there seem to be so many issues? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Kuro
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2025, 09:15:00 am
content: I'm looking for my first thermal camera. Application is checking for heat distribution and hotspots in electronic devices and on PCBs.So I think I need on with a more narrow FOV.I checked the reviews here and on the Eleshop website. Eleshop recommends the Guide E2(+) over the UniT 260B. But there seem to be quite some defective UniT ones and the review thread of the Guide 210 (now superseeded by the E2 it seems) also indicated it wasn't all that reliable.Infiray from what I gather from Mark's book has clunky software.So I'm a bit at a loss, what brand and model would I go for? Hikvision refuses to ship from Amazon Germany to me, I have to buy locally at quite a higher price.Anyway, specs wise the Guide E2+ would serve me well. I like the fact I can make a (non radiometric) video for customers to see how heat works around in their PCs. I don't like the fact Eleshop is pushing me to this one, it screams 'we make more profit on this one' to me.Reliability and good functioning software, radiometric save images, small FOV (macrolens availability a plus), budget around 300-400 EUR is what I'm looking for. Oh, no phone modules please, stand alone. I don't like being dependent on Google or Apple.Any tips on what brands and models I should look at? Thanks!

author: figment
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 18, 2025, 06:24:04 pm
content: Just one example, choices are almost endless.https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807033870229.html
Looking for guidance on what to buy - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Jbates58
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2025, 04:56:13 am
content: Hey all,I am looking to get a thermal camera mostly for some work around home (insulation, fault finding etc..) but also for work use (data center / IT) and also some mechanical and electrical diagnosing.Ideally, i think i'm looking for a compact USB-C unit to go on my phone, and that i can keep in my bag for work.I originally was going to get either the FlirOne of the Fluke iSee, some googling and redditing later, i came across the topdon units, and then i came across the infiniray units.Based on reading nearly the whole thread posted by @Fraser for the infiniray unit, and then the review (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/review-infiray-p2-pro-thermal-camera-dongle-for-android-mobile-phones/?all) where it states that (from what i took) the current gen units are not as good as the old ones, i'm a bit lost on what i should actually look to get.Ideally i want it good for medium range (say 5ish meters) down to close up PCB level. Quality is more of a concern as well as image clarity. Temp range i don't think i would need over 500ish C and frame rate from what i gather i'm better off with one of the 25hz jobbies.So, im hoping that those more educated can provide me some guidance on what i should look at getting.Many thanks all.
Flir FC-T adapter board Pinout - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2025, 11:50:37 am
content: I figured out the 3-pin and 12-pin pinout for adapter board 250-0472-00, used in Flir FC-T CCTV cameras.I'm posting it here for anyone's reference.Small 3-pin white port is for serial, bottom is GND, other two are TX and RX.The 12-pin J7:PIN CONN2,10,11,12 GND1 video+7,8,9 power+If any questions, you can ask.
Help fixing scout ii  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Doc66
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 25, 2025, 05:19:12 pm
content: Hallo,I hava a scout ii 640, I broke the battery connector from the board so I try to fix it solderig the wires directly, but the copper on board go away so I' able to solder only the red (positve) wire on orginal position and fix it with a litte drop of Cianoacrylic glue, I found the negative on second hole on the opposite site for black (negative) wire, and the camera power up and work but if I try to recharghe nothing appens, I try to solder the white wire, after checking coninuity, whit R12 (LED side), but not work, someone can help my to find another place to solder the withe wire, I think is the termistor of battery. On the first picture my soldering work, the second picture show where I tried to solder the withe wire.Any idea?ThanksDoc66

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2025, 06:48:02 pm
content: I opened one of my Scout II units and attach an annotated picture for you.The white temperature sensor wire is connected to R12 (10K Ohms).The + and - connections appear across C33Please be careful when working on the battery connections. Mistakes can get ugly !Fraser

author: Doc66
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 26, 2025, 10:32:03 am
content: Hi Fraser, thanks for your support, I made the connection following your instructions, only the red wire was solderer on original position, but meanwhile the battery go down, unfotunately when I connect the USB nothing appens.Doc66
Argus4 computer connection leads - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 17, 2025, 05:13:50 pm
content: As this is solely of interest to TIC fans, added here rather than on the normal FS listingshttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186888489688Argus4 computer connection leads - half the price of just the Fischer connector.Not me but known to me - no financial link.I have the customer software available from my fire-tics siteBill

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 21, 2025, 04:29:32 pm
content: The seller has reduced the price to a bargain £12.95. I needed another USB cable so have just ordered one. The Fischer connectors are sooo expensive and connecting a USB cable to one is more hassle than I need, so £12.95 is a no-brainier for me.Thanks for the heads-up BillFraser
TOPDON TS001/TC001 Camera - a refactored Python program for Windows - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: m-riley04
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 19, 2025, 04:09:10 pm
content: Hello everyone! This is myfirstsecond ever post on this forum. I'm an undergrad CS major and am currently doing a personal project involving using TOPDON thermal imaging sensors.I currently have a TS001 and attempted to use the "PyThermalCam" script written by Les Wright on this forum (original post:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/infiray-and-their-p2-pro-discussion/msg4949002/#msg4949002) to simply test the camera out. Unfortunately, it did not quite work with my system (Windows 11, Python 3.12.4) and there were numerous errors even getting it to open. I figured out the solution(s) through tweaking the code and removing certain drivers, but while doing so thought I just might as well continue where Les left off and hopefully help others in the process.I have forked, refactored, and overall cleaned up the program. It is now much more readable, largely follows OOP principles, and is pretty modular. It practically constitutes as a rewrite. I am still in the process of refactoring, and there are absolutely still issues (specifically with the sensor temperature calculation), but the overall functionality of the program works and I was able to test out my TS001.This fork is specifically designed to work for theTS001onWindowswith newer versions of Python and OpenCV; however, ithypotheticallyshould work with TC001 and Linux too. I will be actively updating this repo with changes, fixes, and additions over the next few days/weeks. I have also documented the issues/hurdles I overcame during the process of figuring this out (like, for example, how the "official" TOPDON drivers make the camera no longer show up as UVC-compatible).Anyways, I hope it helps someone struggling like I was for a while. Cheers, all!GitHub Repo:https://github.com/m-riley04/PyThermalCamera-WindowsP.S. This is one of my first ever "major" open source contributions, so constructive criticism is welcome.
Camera boot time - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2025, 04:13:47 pm
content: I'm just wondering this...Some camera startup/boot in seconds, while others take about a minute, why?Examples:Boot in seconds: some firefighting TICs, thermal cores, seek compact, seek reveal, visible-light cameras.Boot in a minute: some firefighting TICs, flir handheld cameras, flir one, seek shot.(Not considering sensor stabilizing or cooling time here.)Well things getting tangled because there's no pattern to me:Not determined by cost, target buyers, form factor, brand name, features...I was thinking it's because the system architecture, FPGA based boot fast, and OS based boot slow. But after knowing many visible-light cameras run an OS(Canon on DOS, Sony on Linux, etc), and still boot up instantly, I'm lost.This seems to be a question more about embedded systems, but I'm having it while playing with thermal cameras, so I post it here anyway, I'm happy to hear your opinions.

author: Bill W
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2025, 12:33:39 pm
content: Depends on the background operating system.Anything with a linux (ish) system will boot like a PCThise with real time DSP/FPGA types will be fast (eg Argus4 & MiTIC series).There are various tricks used to produce a faster boot (again a bit like PC's) where the camera really only goes into a deep sleep or hibernates the OS state in RAM. So the likes of a FLIR can boot fast when the sales guy demos it - but won't if you change the battery first.Argus demo:Camera and battery separate on table.Now start it up and time to picture.So for other cameras that would include the full OS boot (which Argus does not have) and any fiddling about with pseudo-IS safe battery fixings (MiTIC safe anyway)Bill
How to calibrate Flir Photon? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 20, 2024, 02:49:28 pm
content: Hi.The Photon GUI do not have calibration option, and Tau GUI calibration option is greyed out.Is it my particular one which locked out that function, or all Photon cores can only be calibrated in factory?Thanks.

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 11, 2025, 04:20:59 pm
content: https://web.archive.org/web/20070708172855/http://www.indigosystems.com/service/FAQ_Photon.cfm3. Can lenses be interchanged on the Photon?We advise against customers changing Photon lenses. Each Photon is calibrated with its associated lens at the factory. The calibration data is stored in camera memory, but there is only enough memory for a single lens. It is physically possible to change lenses, however, if a different lens is installed, the original calibration is no longer valid. If a Photon lens is changed without recalibrating the camera, it will work but the image performance will be degraded. In addition, several of the available lenses use different adapters to attach to the Photon camera body, so changing lenses often requires more than just the lens itself. Finally, changing lenses can only be done by opening the Photon, and the warranty will be voided if this done by a customer.TLDR: Photon do NOT support field lens calibration.

author: dennis1573
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 13, 2025, 09:13:19 pm
content: Quote from: hap2001 on January 11, 2025, 04:20:59 pmNot entirely true. There was a "No Lens" Option (all Photon cores with PN starting with 500)These came with software, for lens calibration.i have such a Photon core, it came out of a big camera module with smashed lens...Im still searching for that Software...Its called "Alternate Lens Cal Software" PN:110-0102-63I suggest, you dont change any Settings using the Tau GUI and then save it as Power-on default.I did exactly that, and bricked one of my Photons...I dont know if it was a specific combination of settings, nor can i remember what exactly i changed...but its only showing a purple picture with vertical stripes now...Thankfully, it was only a Photon 160 i extracted from a MSA Evolution 5600.The Tau GUI does talk to the Photon, but i guess its saving some changes to the wrong memory addresses...There are also 2 Versions of the Photon GUI.According to:https://web.archive.org/web/20091130180334/http://www.corebyindigo.com/service/softwareupdates.cfmV2.4.0 is for all Photon cameras delivered beginning in 2008 and v1.2.0 for Photon 320 Cameras delivered prior to 2008.Maybe for the same reason?So be careful, or you might end up with a paperweight like i did...
TS001 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: artag
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2024, 02:04:04 pm
content: Just received my TS001 (used from ebay). It's essentially a TC001 with a manual focus lens.First impressions :Pretty chunky - big compared to my old Seek and huge compared with a P2.Even bigger when the camera clamp is used and somewhat messy with cable etc. but I really hate having a camera hanging off the USB connector (espcially when the camera's as wide as the phone). I will make up a better (shorter, right-angled) cable.Works well with an articulated arm for supportFocus goes down to about 40mmFocus ring is good to use - it's not slack like the Seek one but firm and stays in place. good knurled finger grip.FOV may be a bit narrow for PCBs - about 20 degrees on the long axis or 4" wide at 12" distance.Instructions are ludicrously oversimplified - a single sheet, IKEA-like. Maybe there are some better instructions with the app. The TC001 instructions are mostly about the app rather than the camera and would apply, but they're about the earlier TC001 app and Topdon are moving to a replacement called TopInfrared. Both apps work with the camera.Works with reduxIn as-new condition. No problems with being used. Saved me £80.Definitely nowhere near as sexy as the Hikvision pocket2 but half the price and probably just as effective for bench use with a PC for display.Sorry about the short report but there are plenty of longer reviews on youtube and I'm not knowledgeable enough to know what really matters. Could possibly get it to Fraser if he's interested - I think I live nearby.

author: Michaelplease11
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 29, 2024, 06:36:14 pm
content: Does it give a better image than a hikmicro pocket2?

author: artag
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 29, 2024, 08:00:09 pm
content: I don't know - I considered getting one but bought the TS001 instead, mainly because of the manual focus but it was cheaper, too. The pocket2 looks more convenient to use though. If I see one at a reduced price or second hand I could be tempted still.Will post an image if you can suggest some standard item that would give a good comparison.

author: Michaelplease11
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 29, 2024, 08:49:33 pm
content: I have a pocket2 so maybe a seltzer can would be good - specifically a cold one.

author: Michaelplease11
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 02, 2024, 01:43:54 am
content: I just received my ts001 and it is completely defective,I contacted customer support yesterday with no response yet but today is probably some holiday or whatever.

author: Anthonydb
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 30, 2025, 04:33:10 pm
content: How are you getting on with he TS001? I've just received one from ebay.
Video rolling no sync with ICI cam but works with FLIR. - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: CRC
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 07:55:29 pm
content: I had a low res FLIR Photon on my Jeep and piped the video to a 4.3" backup monitor and also the cargo cam aux input of the 8.3" Uconnect radio display. It worked fine. I swapped it with a 640 from one of the ICI Dali cams mentioned here in other threads. The little backup cam works fine but the vehicle display just rolls and is always black and white. I swapped over to a FLIR 640 Scout III to test it and both displays work fine. The ICI also works fine with a CVBS analog to HDMI converter I have but the vehicle radio input just doesn't seem to like this camera.Does anyone have any ideas what the problem could be? I can log into some of the ICI camera's settings using the button input procedure but the main menu password - + combo is unknown to me. It's not - + - + - + like the UART menu. I tried writing an Arduino program to brute force all 64 combos but something isn't right because that still doesn't work. I was hoping to log in and see if there are some analog video settings.BTW, I'm using a .5mm 30pin FFC breakout board to grab the video from pins 30 and 1 and 3.3v TTL serial on 24 and 25.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 08:25:23 pm
content: Loss of sync and loss of all colour in an image is normally a sign of an incompatible TV standard (PAL/NTSC) and a monitor that does not have automatic TV standard switching.Fraser

author: IR_Geek
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 08:49:24 pm
content: 2nd what Fraser said. Verify the frame rate and video size for each camera output and also what the monitor will allow.

author: CRC
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2024, 01:31:08 am
content: Yep, Fraser is correct. I thought it was NTSC but found an analog to HDMI converter around here that displayed the protocol briefly when a source is attached and it says it's PAL. I have a converter from Amazon on the way. I wish I could get into that menu to see if there's a way to flip it to NTSC but haven't found a way yet.

author: 1os
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2025, 11:02:40 pm
content: there is nothing complicated in switching NTSC in the Flir camera to the Pal side

author: 1os
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 07, 2025, 11:05:12 pm
content: /

author: CRC
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 09, 2025, 10:45:08 pm
content: Thanks but it was the ICI camera that needs changed to NTSC. I can get into some menus like UART but trying different combinations of entries doesn't seem to ever work for the main menu.
A deeper dive on the Thermal Master P2 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: ArsenioDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2025, 09:11:27 pm
content: Recently a rep for Thermal Master reached out and offered a unit for me to take for a spin, only requesting a post. So Here's some deeper technical analysis, because thats what seems to be missing from a lot of the other reviews as is.This camera is clearly yet another IRay Tiny1, though possibly a V2.Starting off, it DOES* initiate as another UVC device (but only on one port of my W11 laptop, but not on my W10 desktop, and works on my android after a plug/replug cycle.My bet is they're doing some sort of listener on the realtek UVC ASIC that needs a specific hello or boot method to start up, unlike other units like the Victor units.Screenshot 2025-01-04 153700.pngLeft device is the P2, operates at a different VID/PID pair than the Victor 328B on the right.advertises the same UVC formats in the descriptor data, the 8 bit 25hz greyscale at sensor resolution and then the green temperature map stacked secondary stream.ThermalMasterP2.jpgP2 Capture, notable that it has metadata pixel rows on the bottom of the stream, and seems to have a little better histogram equalization in the ISP (see the background objects, my face and eyes) than the next screencap which is the Victor 328BVIctor328B.jpgVictor328B, completely clean 256*192 stream, no metadata pixels eating some of the bufferHave not yet figured out how to open the case, definitely seems rear entry but not quite straightforward.Other notes is that the USB type C connector is a little shorter at 7.88mm vs 8.1mm on the 328B which makes the dongle not fit into the USB port on my phone with a spigen slim case. It DOES include a type C extension cable which is nice as it mitigates the issue of case fitIn the Thermal Master app, you can get details about the connected device. Of interest is the firmware revisions are the same between the 328B (enumerates as a P2 Pro LOL)Have to put the app screenshots in the next post due to the 8MB photo limit per post

author: ArsenioDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2025, 09:24:10 pm
content: Next is the X3 UPSCALE AI stuff they hype..... It's just a simple upscale and smoothing, eats a decent amount of detail unfortunately. (Look at the Zotac logo on the GPU)Raw 328B, decent histogram equalization, nice clean video.Smeary and a smidge blurry, not really much you can do with simple upscaling tech and resolution this low without microscanningNotably a bit better histogram equalization andapparentdynamic range.Unfortunately not supported yet by IRCAM thermal Viewer or usual Python based software yet. Will be taking a crack at modifying the python stuff to support sometime this year.Once I can get it synched with input I'll do captures of reference temperatures from my blackbody radiators in comparison with the gold standard (My Jenoptik VarioCAM HD, pending software acquisition).I will probably convert this to be used in an interactive museum exhibit once I have support fully implemented.
Help Needed on Two Different PTZ Thermal Cameras - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Axiomader29
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 18, 2024, 01:38:50 pm
content: I recently acquired two ptz thermal camera systems. Can someone help me located the correct cable type and pinout for this small ex-sight ptz camera? It’s 7 pin on both ports. The other camera I got in a SPI M5 ptz. When I boot it up, it remains in “checking…” mode and I hear an intermittent clicking coming from the unit. I only hooked it up to a power supply, and a video monitor, it was not hooked up to a rs485 controller, so I thought maybe that was the problem. Any help would be appreciated.

author: CRC
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2024, 06:57:20 pm
content: I have one of those M5s that was in rough shape. I still haven't been able to get it going. If you pop off the bottom you can see where the cables enter and the locations are labeled on the board. From what I recall offhand without being where I can go look it's 12v, ground, visual video, thermal video, RS485A and RS485B but not in that order, just that those are the connections I recall.The unit I have seem to try to run the motors to the optical limit switches then reverse to self calibrate its position. In mine, the belts were all degraded so it wouldn't move. The camera in mine is a FLIR Tau2 but it has a video overlay board at the back of the housing the video goes through on the way out.There are numerous little DIP switches inside on the bottom but they aren't labeled. I assume they are control protocol and baud but I couldn't get a response from the company when I asked about them.

author: Axiomader29
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 19, 2024, 05:58:05 pm
content: Thanks. I am going to open up the housing today and see what’s up.

author: CRC
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2024, 02:18:32 am
content: To get the housing open totally on the M5 you have to take off both cameras then use a snap ring C clip plier to get the C clip off the ends of the elevation shaft. The problem is they are behind spring tensioned seals similar to something seen on a motorcycle fork or hydraulic cylinder so getting those out first was not fun.

author: Axiomader29
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 28, 2024, 04:47:29 am
content: Can you describe in more detail how to remove the gaskets after the spring clamp has been removed? I tried prying up the gaskets with a couple of small flat head screw drivers, but I didn’t want to tear them. I can’t see the C clamps. I need to be able to open up the clamshell case since I. Having an issue with the title control.

author: CRC
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2024, 10:50:31 pm
content: I don't know how to do it and guarantee not damaging them. I just pried carefully with a tiny screwdriver and slowly worked the gaskets up to the point I could get a hold of them and pull them off. I did end up scraping up the shaft a bit so they might not seal well. Below them is the C snap ring.
Leonardo DRS Infrared Tamarisk 320 software - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: drs_therm01
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 21, 2023, 04:05:11 am
content: Can anyone point me to the DRS camera control software? Or send it my way?I found dead links to 1.8.34 and 1.7.1.4 beta.

author: dennis1573
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2023, 07:32:23 am
content: web.archive.org still has a copy of it here:https://web.archive.org/web/20200510144736/https://www.leonardodrs.com/media/11367/1004013-102-drs-camera-control-software-1101-ear.msithere are 2 versions of this control software, the EAR and the ITAR version.If someone has a copy of the ITAR version, (he could share) please let me know...I have a DRS UC640-17, that can only be controlled with the ITAR version...i do have the ICD for this camera, so i can send commands to it manuallybut the control software would be much better....

author: drs_therm01
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 22, 2023, 02:46:46 am
content: Thank you!!!!I wish you good fortune, and am in your debt.

author: drs_therm01
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 23, 2023, 12:32:47 am
content: Is there a place to get firmware for the Tamarisk 320 as well? It looks like I need to upgrade to get the colorized digital output. The software is working great however.Thank you again!

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2024, 03:29:34 pm
content: Anyone have this password?(screenshot from their PDF manual)
InfiRay File & Folder structure on their stand alone higher end models..? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: DaneLaw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 08:13:31 pm
content: InfiRay file structure on their stand-alone models, are anybody on top of that, and the purpose of these .pre_files.?Seems iRay are using a ".pre" file format, and they are dumping a shutload of content into it, multiple tens of gigabytes, so a lot of data, and what takes a clear majority of the storage.A huge part of it ain't even dated.Here exampled on a InfiRay FLIP model when attached to the PC and access to the units root folder. (attached)As far as I can tell, for the common picture & video files, its looks like its filed into chunksVideos  are all 98.304KB (96MiB)Picture. are all 3.072KB (3.0MiB)It doesn't matter if you make a 5 sec. video or multiple minutes videos, its still 96MiB, so likely a limit, for videos, before it will cut off and start a new.Not sure what the benefits is of this ltd-file-chunk-approach and if its to prevent corrupted data, like you can get with a continuous recording into memfile..but it seems to also save a lot of .pre files, which IM not sure of the purpose of, some of them got an F in front and then a filename that equals time, while many others, don't, unless they were made in the 1970s.?I would guess, that iRay's monocular scope models, also are using this file system/structure?* ROOT FOLDER.* VIDEO-CIF [sorted after newest, for the ones with date)* VIDEO-CIF [sorted oppesit]
Nocpix vista devices and RTSP - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: samson1337
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 10:52:17 pm
content: hii have got a nocpix vista.it comes with wifi and i found a rtsp service running on that device.any chance someone can tell me how to connect to that device with my pc?the phone app for that device is horrible and if you use antoher app which runs ffmpeg encondig the whole termal image lags and stutter like hell. plus it is very tiny.i wanted to connect direct to that rtsp service :-)
What's currently the best Android app for Infiray T2S+? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: bitwelder
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 09:03:45 am
content: Hello,I recently got an Infiray T2S+. To use it with a (modern) Android phone the 'official' recommended app was Xtherm, and that worked ok.I read in this forum of an alternative app distributed via Discord, which has interesting specs, so I installed it but... it doesn't do much.When I plug the thermal cam, Android prompts me to choose which of the two apps I want to open, but if I choose the 'Inficam' app, nothing happens, it doesn't even ask to get permissions for its functionality, as new apps normally do. I manually granted it the same permission that Xtherm has, but that didn't help.BTW the phone is a Sony Xperia III with Android 13.So... should I just forget it and rely only on the Xtherm (as far as I'll use it under Android), or is there anything else worth considering?
Firmware dump Draeger Talisman  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: railrun
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2024, 07:58:23 pm
content: Hi, has anybody a firmware dump from an Draeger Talisman?I have a dead one on my bench. Tried to read the MCU with an T56 and TL866ii but the signature is FF FF , so the MCU is dead.Thanks in advance.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2024, 08:12:15 pm
content: MCU can be copy protected so you get all FF on a read attempt.

author: railrun
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2024, 09:13:10 pm
content: The signature should be readable, even if it is locked. Or not? The datasheet says nothing regarding the signature.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 14, 2024, 10:28:41 pm
content: Sorry, I only know that another forum member who better understands these processors failed to read out the firmware. I have a note of it in my archive, but no details. Sorry.Fraser
How useful is a thermal camera for pcb repair and diagnostics?  - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: artvandalai
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 15, 2025, 11:47:17 pm
content: I'm a beginner with electronics repair and buying all the necessary tools for diagnosing and repair. How useful is a thermal camera for pcb repair and diagnostics? I'm looking at the android plug in thermal camera attachments.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2025, 01:01:46 am
content: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/minimum-specification-of-a-thermal-camera-for-pcb-repairs-some-thoughts/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/use-of-a-thermal-camera-for-pcba-thermal-profiling-and-repair/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/review-infiray-p2-pro-thermal-camera-dongle-for-android-mobile-phones/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/review-dianyang-technology-ca10-circuit-board-thermal-analyzer-repair-rd/

author: KE5FX
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 16, 2025, 04:27:42 am
content: Absolutely indispensable if your time is worth anything at all.
Are Flir core different sensitivity grade chip binning or software trick? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: hap2001
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2024, 04:57:13 pm
content: Just as we saw those software noise generator in Ex/Ex0, how about their cores like Tau or Boson?For example, if we swap the sensor between a 40mk and a 60mk Boson, will the resulting NETD stay with the control board, or follow the sensor?

author: IR_Geek
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 12, 2024, 06:27:55 pm
content: Interesting question. Look forward to any insight people may have on the topic.
Flir scout ii 640 firmware - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Doc66
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 21, 2024, 02:32:39 pm
content: Hallo,I have a Flir Scout ii 640 with firmware rev. 3.49.16, I get last version of Flir Scout ii LS-X LS-XR OceanScout EUTool and the last firmware for Scout iii, is safe apply the update ti my Flir Scout ii 640.Tnx

author: wwshaui
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 31, 2024, 06:24:36 am
content: Hello,no, the last FW not works on Scout II 640.Iam seek for an older Firmware for the Scout II 640.Can you help me in this case.I have load the cam with the wrong Firmware.Thank you very muchBest regardsstefan hauter

author: Doc66
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 10:19:45 am
content: Hallo,I just now found this page on flir that can help you.https://flir.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6264Here you can dl the correct firmware for your Scout.Best RegardsG. Varelli

author: Rob Staples
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 09, 2024, 04:40:19 pm
content: Warning!! I have a scout iii and used the Flir user tool . I connected to my scout, the software read my unit’s data and I had the correct version to upload. When I executed the transfer, the process failed, and the unit is dead. ( it was working fine…. I should not have tried an update) I sent it to FLIR for them to update, and they said there is nothing they can do because it is out of support. They suggested buy a replacement. I am waiting for the return.I suggest caution in using their update process.

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2024, 05:33:31 pm
content: I have worked with FLIR concerning thermal imaging systems for three decades and find this news shocking. What on earth has gone wrong at FLIR ? They never used to be so unhelpful. Could it be that this is policy coming out of the Teledyne purchase of FLIR I wonder ? I knew that the low end consumer products support was separate to that of the Industrial cameras I used so we could be witnessing a lower quality of support from that ‘new’ consumer product support team.If I were you, I would not accept that response from FLIR CS and would want to escalate the matter with FLIR management. I was provided with excellent support by Bill who was a VP at FLIR. Nothing was too much trouble and he arranged fir a complete FLIR Scout casing to be sent to me free of charge. He also sought out some Circa 2001 obsolete software for me !….. “Service as it should be”. Time to start researching the current management at FLIR and see who might be a good person to contact. They normally have direct feedback email addresses. If you fail to find someone, raise a call with FLIR CS asking for the contact details of a manager with whom you can discuss a product support complaint.Good luckFraser

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2024, 05:41:37 pm
content: The current management team is listed here….https://www.comparably.com/companies/flir-systems/executive-teamSadly my contacts have left FLIR so I cannot provide any useful contact details.Fraser
Thermal Master P2 - Discussion - Anyone else own one ? Any issues ? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Fraser
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 09, 2024, 01:23:51 pm
content: I have a Thermal Master P2 that I am currently testing for a review that will appear on this forum.Initial testing of the camera dongle has had mixed results and I would like to hear from other owners of this camera to share experiences. This Thermal Master “P2” is not the same as the Infiray P2 or P2 Pro. It is not primarily intended to be used for PCB work and no close-up lens is provided. That said, I will, of course, include any PCB observation capabilities in my review, just as with any thermal camera I test.The Thermal Master P2 uses an APP that offers their “X3” image enhancement software. I can state that this does remove the usual pixel related “stair step” effect when viewing angles edges or lines. I am seeing some weird “mosaic” like blotchy effects when viewing exterior targets, such as trees and the X3 mode appears to make matters worse. Has anyone else seen this effect ? It could be the result of over enthusiastic noise reduction software on complex detail scenes ? Thermal Master seem keen to hear about any issues with the camera or App so it would be good if I can collate any user experiences so that I may pass these on to them for possible fixes (if required) in future App releases.Fraser
AGM ASP TM35-640 - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: BRASKY
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 03, 2024, 08:23:12 pm
content: Forgive me if this is the wrong forum for repair questions but i have an agm tm35-640 monocular that the internal battery has failed in and is out of warranty. I have had very poor luck with AGMs warranty and repair services in past and would like to save money by replacing the battery myself as they would only answer $250-700 for repair and I am sure its just an 18650 battery inside.Has anyone got any ideas about getting the case apart on this? I've researched extensively and found similar but different FLIR, AGM tapian, and steiner models being disassembled for battery repairs but nothing with quite this style of case. I am sure the core slides out the front end like the rest but would like to have my bases covered before I start prying and damage something. Looks like it is a rebranded monocular that also goes by HIKVISION OWL 35 or HIKMICRO owl 35.I have firmly prodded around the front lens on the nose cone with a pick to feel for recessed holes underneath that would hold mounting screws and could not feel any. Also does not appear to be a glued rubber layer on the nose cone like some other models it feels like its one solid peice of plastic. The only hardware I have seen is under the eye piece cup are 4 phillips screws but from videos of similar models I assume that would only hold on the eye piece and would not gain me access to battery.Thanks in advance.

author: BRASKY
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 03, 2024, 09:41:32 pm
content: I did stumble across this video showing that apparently the nose cone is held on by a jam nut however mine has the larger style external focus ring it has fairly firm stops in both directions and I do not see any set screws. I assume the same jamnut will be behind the focus ring. Any tips to getting that off there? Just unscrew counter clockwise against the stop?