One-year 1 megawatt E-Cat trial completed  AND  replicated by MFMP  group - Page 1
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author: Mazda
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 26, 2016, 01:41:05 pm
content: for anyone interested..Historic event: One-year 1 megawatt E-Cat trial completedfrom Mats Lewan:OnFebruary 17, 2016, a 350-day commercial test of a One Megawatt heat plant based on Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat was completed. The event must be considered historic since it’s the first time an industrially useful amount of energy is produced over such a long time from this kind of yet unexplained radiation-free nuclear reaction—LENR or Low Energy Nuclear Reactions.To be clear, the report from the one-year trial, which has been controlled by amajor independent third party certification institute, will be released only in about a month, and until then no official information is provided on the test result. However, multiple sources have told me that the test has been successful.Earlier, some sources having visited the test plant told me that the COP, Coefficient of Performance, i.e. the ratio between output power and input power for control, was in the range 20—80, meaning that the heat plant was consuming 12—50 kW while producing 1 MW—the average consumption of about 300 Western households, including electricity, space heating, water heating and air conditioning.I have also been told that the total amount of fuel—mostly harmless elements such as lithium, hydrogen and nickel, according to Andrea Rossi’s granted patent on the technology—was in the range of tenths of grams. And supposedly the charge has never been changed during the year. On the other hand, after one year’s run, the reactors are now being recharged for further operation.All this might be confirmed by the third party institute, that has been controlling the heat plant 24/7 with video cameras.The test has been undertaken by Andrea Rossi and his US industrial partner Industrial Heat, and according to Rossi, commercialisation of similar industrial heat plants will be initiated as soon as possible, provided that the result is positive. Industrial Heat has acquired the right to produce and sell E-Cat based technology in, as far as I have been told, North, Central and South America, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.Needless to say, the consequences of such an energy source for the world will be huge. And the consequences for industry, finance and society is also the focus of the New Energy World Symposium or NewS, which will be held in Stockholm, Sweden, on June 21, 2016, provided that the report from the test is clearly positive.So, now we all wait for the report. Personally, however, I will put the champagne on ice. Now.by Mats Lewan--------------------------------------------------www.e-catworld.comhttps://animpossibleinvention.com/2016/02/24/breaking-the-e-cat-has-been-replicated-hers-the-recipe/The ‘open science’ group, Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project, MFMP, that I mention at the end of my book An Impossible Invention, has announced that they have performed a true replication of the effect in Rossi’s energy device, the E-Cat. The group has also published a complete recipe of how to replicate the effect, adding a clear method for detecting a successful replication.In a letter to donors, MFMP’s writes:“What we will share is that the way in which we discovered it and the journey of analysis (…) makes it virtually impossible to say that Rossi does not have what he claims. It also shows that, whilst he may have been optimistic in how fast this would play out, he has been telling the truth, quite openly for years. Not only that, nature itself has been telling the same story and it told us too.”Bob Greenyer, co-founder of the group, explained to me that the successful replication was based on all available information MFMP had got from from experienced LENR researchers Francesco Piantelli and Francesco Celani, and from the Russian scientist Alexander Parkhomov who also claims to have replicated Rossi’s effect, as well as openly shared information by Andrea Rossi himself.The main evidence for the effect in MFMP’s experiment is a combination of ‘excess heat’—i.e. thermal energy released from the reaction, beyond the input energy—and x-ray radiation—i.e. the same kind of low energy radiation used in medical radiography. Important is that the x-ray emissions were observed only together with excess heat.The character of the x-ray signal is, according to MFMP, the best way to detect that the replication is successful. The energy of the x-ray photons are between 0 and 300 keV (medical radiography typically uses x-rays between 5 and 150 keV), and there’s a brief but massive burst of x-rays when the reaction starts. This was observed also at the first semi-public demonstration of the E-Cat by Rossi in January 2011.The heat from Rossi’s devices comes directly from the reaction and from the low energy x-rays which are thermalised—turned into harmless heat—by shielding materials such as lead.The experiments by MFMP have been performed during the last three weeks, with a duration of about 20 hours of excess heat/x-rays on February 1-2. Everything is publicly documented at MFMP’s website Quantumheat.org, also the recipe, which essentially explains how to prepare the fuel consisting of nickel, lithium, hydrogen and aluminium, and how to run the experiment.The preparation is fairly complicated and probably requires significant practice to master. It must be underlined that attempts should only be undertaken by trained people and with all necessary safety measures in place.MFMP now plans to do follow-up experiments with the isotope Ni62 (an isotope is a special variety of any element, with the number indicating the number of nucleons in the atomic nucleus) which might enhance the effect.In the following months, we should also expect an increased activity of replication attempts all over the world, possibly leading to a broad confirmation of the effect in Rossi’s E-Cat. On the other hand, it can be noted that Rossi had this knowledge already some five or six years ago, and reasonably has been able to further develop the process since.I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate MFMP for its achievement, as a result of intense efforts, supported by a large group of donors and people offering their advice. As MFMP ends the letter to the donors:“We did it. We lit the New Fire Together!”MFMP site:http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/how to instrucions

author: dfmischler
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2016, 02:01:24 pm
content: I'll believe it when there is a true independent evaluation and peer-reviewed articles in a major physics journal.skepticforum already has a discussion on this. I recommend we leave it to them.

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2016, 03:07:27 pm
content: QuoteI look forward to hearing this published by said major independent third party certification institute.

author: JoeN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2016, 03:24:18 pm
content: What does any of this have to do with electronics?https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=showposts;u=92561Execute him.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2016, 05:04:31 pm
content: Quote from: daqq on February 26, 2016, 03:07:27 pmI agree. I have seen reports from institutes testing overunity devices before and those where riddled with errors. I'm afraid it will be very hard to determine whether Mr Rossi's LENR device is a fake or not. The first step is to see if the test methods used are sound and the math is correct.

author: daqq
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 24, 2016, 05:37:11 pm
content: So, any news on this?

author: JoeN
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2016, 02:11:47 am
content: Quote from: nctnico on February 26, 2016, 05:04:31 pmAre you kidding me? In what way?Here, let me inform you. FAKE [ ] NOT FAKE

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 25, 2016, 03:06:21 am
content: It's fake until i can order the parts and make one myself.

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 25, 2016, 03:54:34 am
content: Quote from: Mazda on February 26, 2016, 01:41:05 pmSo an un-named institute has been running a test of this thing for 350 days, and yet they still cannot say if it works or not.Wait a month for a report huh, given we don't know who the originization is, we can't exactly go looking in 30 days can we.I'd be interested in a comparison between the E-Cat and it's inventer, to see which has the higher output of hot air.This junk science undermines the entire green energy industry, which does actually create power.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: March 25, 2016, 04:27:04 am
content: Quote from: station240 on March 25, 2016, 03:54:34 amMy money's on the inventor.