Hint for Agilent DSO-X 2002A Vs Rigol DS 1054Z - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 05, 2015, 08:14:00 pm
content: Hello everyone.1) I apologize for my bad English2) I have the opportunity to purchase these two solutions:- Agilent DSO-X 2002A. Used, with Wave Generator activated, supplies without probes, and with some scratches (a bit ugly), this one for 500€ (545$)- Rigol DS 1054Z. New, with Warranty, this one for 385€ (420$)I know that the Rigol It has the possibility of Hacking to 100 MHz, various features etc. and the Agilent not.What the best option?

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 05, 2015, 11:35:58 pm
content: Quote from: Ultron on August 05, 2015, 08:14:00 pmYou buy the Rigol and then let me know who is selling the Agilent for 500 euro, I'll buy that,

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 04:39:40 pm
content: Thanks very much. I understood...An other question: The Agilent DSO-x 2002 can be hacked? (for Bandwith extension and other features)

author: Howardlong
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 04:41:53 pm
content: Get ready for a long readhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/dsox2000-and-3000-series-licence-have-anyone-tried-to-hack-that-scope/90/

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 04:54:58 pm
content: Quote from: Ultron on August 07, 2015, 04:39:40 pmYes, to 200MHz with AWG and all decode options and 8 MSO channels, very easy with old firmware

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 05:05:21 pm
content: Fantastic! Some link "How do it..."?

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 05:06:30 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on August 07, 2015, 04:54:58 pmI saw after... Thanks

author: Pinkus
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 05:14:09 pm
content: Buy the Agilent (and hack it). If you find out later that you need 4 channels (the only real advantage of the Rigol), sell it for 700 Euro and buy the other one.Or - better- then buy the other one first and compare it with the Agilent before you decide which one you keep.

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 05:19:29 pm
content: Quote from: Howardlong on August 07, 2015, 04:41:53 pmArgh...It's very long matter...

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 05:33:02 pm
content: Quote from: Pinkus on August 07, 2015, 05:14:09 pmDon't forget after it's hacked the Agilent has 10 channels (2 analog and 8 digital). No fancy pod needed for lower frequency digital signals, just a re-purposed PC drive cable.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 05:36:12 pm
content: Quote from: Ultron on August 07, 2015, 05:19:29 pmBuy the scope and report back with the firmware version number. Oh and you might find the Agilent has quite a lot of warranty left, you can check online with justd the model number and serial number.

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 05:50:27 pm
content: The Agilent it was bought in the 2011, therefore i figure than the firmware is enough old. The owner is a old man, and don't seem than can do it a upgrade.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 05:52:11 pm
content: Quote from: Ultron on August 07, 2015, 05:50:27 pmGo buy it. Now. Offer 400 first tho

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 05:56:55 pm
content: I call the owner beetwen 1 min...let's see if the deal is successful.Stay tuned 5 min...

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 06:08:03 pm
content: He did not want to negotiate. € 450 ultimate price.I got it!I'm going to take it tomorrow or Monday.I let you know...

author: bitseeker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 06:47:15 pm
content: Nice job! For not wanting to negotiate, he gave you a reasonable break. Looking forward to hearing what it's like.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 07:13:46 pm
content: Well doneNow start making a collection of different USB sticks while you wait.I'll give you a link to a dropbox ZIP file soon. All you have to do is copy the contents to the USB sticks.

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 10:22:53 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on August 07, 2015, 07:13:46 pmThanks from my dsPIC. He wait for a decent Signal Analyzer for his SPI bus.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 07, 2015, 10:48:28 pm
content: You bought the better DSO, congratulations well done.

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 10, 2015, 10:26:50 am
content: The DSO is here:I'm ready for the hacking...

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 10, 2015, 10:11:26 pm
content: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0bmxjynp97e01ey/2000%20hacked.zip?dl=0Copy the contents of the ZIP file to a blank USB stick, plug it in either USB socket and power the scope up. If it takes longer than usual and says 'Booting from USB' in red then congratulations. Otherwise keep trying different USB sticks.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 10, 2015, 10:42:06 pm
content: Quote from: TopLoser on August 05, 2015, 11:35:58 pmAh, I see you got the Agilent, nice score. I'm not sure about the Euro pricing, but that sounds cheap.

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2015, 02:05:26 am
content: Quote from: TopLoser on August 10, 2015, 10:11:26 pm- I upgrade the firmware at 2.39 version- unzip you files (Startup, infiniiVision folders and inf...txt) in the root of USB stick- some loop (blink leds and some splash screen) but anything happened.- change several sticks (5), but anything happened.- downgrade at 2.37 firmware version, but anything happened.- format some stick with eFAT File system, but anything happened.Some suggestions?Which firmware version is fit at your files?Five USB sticks are too few for have one a statistic success?

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 11, 2015, 07:22:18 am
content: Quote from: Ultron on August 11, 2015, 02:05:26 amYou upgraded the firmware on the scope first? The USB stick only works when the scope is running V2.35 or lower...Look at the 5th post in this thread - "very easy with old firmware"...You just made things a whole lot more complicated by upgrading. You need a network interface card for the scope now, so you can get telnet access and downgrade it to 2.35. Or I think somebody posted a complicated method of doing it without telnet access, but I've never tried that.

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 11, 2015, 01:35:47 pm
content: Damn...I have to beat myself.My original Firmware was the super-old 2.12. I probably would be able to do it all in a few moments.Ok...Downgrade from 2.39 to 2.37 is ok, no problem (2.39 has Keysight logo, whereas 2.37 still Agilent logo)Downgrade from 2.37 to 2.35 not work, pop-up with --> "Error in loading file".This evening i'll try to do downgrade with "complex" system, and pray...

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2015, 02:05:11 am
content: Yeah ...! after huge efforts I did!I follows these instructions by the "DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?" topic, page 51//******************************Hi!There is easier way to downgrade.I have flashed 2.39 a long before I found this site. But now I have 2.35 with just PC and USB-keyAll has beed checked today on my MSO-X 2012 (originally it was standard 100MHz + MEMUP update with 2.39 firmware).1. downgrade to 2.37 (it just works)2. unpack 2000XSeries.02.37.2014052002.cab (ex with WinRAR)3. extract file infiniiVisionLauncher.exe from infiniiVisionSetup.cab (2.37) (ex with WinCE CAB Manager)4. unpack 2000XSeries.02.35.2013061800.cab (ex with WinRAR)5. open infiniiVisionSetup.cab (from 2.35) file in WinCE CAB Manager, find infiniiVisionLauncher.exe on list and delete it6. add infiniiVisionLauncher.exe (from 2.37 cab) to file list and set all properties like in old file (flags: uncheck all; location: \Secure\InfiniiVision; Hard-coded path checked)7. file->save and exit WinCE CAB Manager8. calc MD5 of edited infiniiVisionSetup.cab and update it in recipe.xml file9. compress all files (ex with CabPack) from 2.35 firmware with edited infiniiVisionSetup.cab10. flash new file//*************************One detail: In the CabPack software it's important to setting the Compression type to MSZIPIn attachement the faked file for downgrade from 2.37 (or 2.39) to 2.35 for easy hack.*Thanks!*I can not attach the file, is too big!

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: August 12, 2015, 08:47:07 am
content: Well done, I'm pleased it all went well

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2015, 06:31:37 pm
content: ARGH!I looked for MSO cable (8 ch) and i find out that the price is about 400$$!!We are crazy? For a cable?

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2015, 07:16:40 pm
content: Quote from: Ultron on August 12, 2015, 06:31:37 pmDid you read post #9 in this thread?

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 12, 2015, 09:13:22 pm
content: Quote from: neslekkim on August 12, 2015, 07:16:40 pmOk, i read it, but I did not understand...

author: mauroh
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 14, 2015, 08:30:10 am
content: For low frequency digital signals you don't need the original Agilent "digital" cable but just a flat cable from an old PC.Italian: Per segnali a bassa frequenza non serve il cavo originale Agilent ma ti basta un cavo piatto recuperato da un vecchio PC.Mauro

author: Ultron
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 02:23:48 am
content: Grazie! Ho visto solo adesso che l'imbocco del cavo è identico ad un classico IDE 40 Poli. Ne utilizzerò uno per UltraDMA, con un singolo filo di massa per ogni filo di dati.Thanks. I just see. The hole for DIGITAL cable is the same than old IDE PC cable one.I am going to use it one for UltraDMA, which have a single ground wire for each wire data (i can gain some MHz for maximum frequency measure range)

author: mauroh
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 18, 2015, 07:57:43 pm
content: You are welcome.Let us know the performance you will achieve.Enjoy your new toyMauro

author: blueangel
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 15, 2016, 06:51:16 am
content: Quote from: Ultron on August 18, 2015, 02:23:48 am

author: balestrino
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: August 24, 2017, 08:18:34 am
content: Hii'm trying to hack my Agilent with firmware 2.12 but leds keeps flashing and nothing happens.i tried different usb key as fat16 and fat32.Also I cant find on internet firmware v. 2.35anyone knows where to download the old 2.35 firmware?thanks!

author: LA7SJA
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2017, 08:16:17 am
content: Did the 2.35 firmware help you in any way? I would like to take down the file when you don't need it anymore.Johan-Fredrik

author: balestrino
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 18, 2017, 08:39:00 am
content: Yes you can remove the file. thanks!anyway i found the 2.5 online and it's the same file you sent.I tried to update the firmware but after that the scope hangs on boot and the led starts to blinkso i sent it back to Keysight/Agilent and they now are sending back a refurbished unit (and also calibrated!)they say that is in warranty because of a know bug on updating firmware (mine was very old firmware, if i recall correctly was on 2.12)