Keyboard purchasing - Page 1
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author: brumbarchris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2022, 06:43:25 pm
content: I am on the lookout for purchasing a wireless keyboard and mouse.Does not have to be top-notch, but I need them to be manufactured outside China. Turns out to be a real challenge! I have not managed to find one, although I have spent a good number of hours searching.Do you have any suggestions?Regards,Cristian

author: rob77
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2022, 07:39:14 pm
content: why not manufactured in china ? everything is manufactured therei only can suggest MX keys keyboard and MX Master 3 mouse from Logitech. not cheap but well worth the money. but obviously it will not fit everyone's taste

author: Ian.M
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2022, 08:19:19 pm
content: According tohttps://www.logitech.com/assets/41041/2/logitech-company-background-july-2011.pdfQuoteAlso many wireless chipsets are made in China, so even if you find a non-Chinese candidate, all it gains you is the 'feel-good' factor, as odds are it will have Chinese 'guts'.

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2022, 08:43:36 pm
content: HHKB hybrid, wireless an made in Japan(expensive)

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2022, 08:53:09 pm
content: Quote from: DiTBho on May 06, 2022, 08:43:36 pmExpensive, no numpad, and non-standard layout. Lots of people like it though.Ducky keyboards are made in Taiwan apparently:https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/manuals/Ducky_One2_FullTKL_manual.pdf

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2022, 08:59:00 pm
content: Cherry keyboards (at least in the past), were/are made in Europe, I believe. They also do wireless versions.These days, some/all of the sub-assemblies and/or components, could easily be, at least partly made/assembled/packed in China.There are still American made keyboards, if I remember correctly.But the keyboards I described above, tend not to be these cheap as chips, membrane types of keyboards. I.e. They can cost a fair bit, but are arguably worth it, at least to some people.The OP, still hasn't really explained what they are trying to achieve by avoiding China. Some companies, even if they are 100% located/manufactured in the West, and all components are sourced in the West, etc. Can actually be partly/fully owned by China or related parties (and hence partly or fully run by the Chinese). So, fully avoiding China is tricky.

author: rob77
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2022, 09:23:29 pm
content: Quote from: Ian.M on May 06, 2022, 08:19:19 pmyes definitely.probably it's possible to find some hand made / low series keyboards made outside of china which will be crazy expensive but still using components from china, so trying to avoid china is pointless.p.s. i know Logitech is made in china, i suggested it because it's a good one

author: Ian.M
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2022, 09:52:52 pm
content: As I said 'feel-good' factor. If you've got security concerns, wireless is *STUPID* even if it doesn't come with an inscrutable Chinese encrypted binary firmware 'blob'.

author: brumbarchris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 06, 2022, 10:24:40 pm
content: I must admit, I am looking for the "feel-good" factor. But for me, this is a criteria.

author: austfox
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 07, 2022, 04:16:17 am
content: If you want to reconsider the 'wireless' option, the Ducky keyboards from Taiwan look very impressive.https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/Keyboards

author: jpb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 07, 2022, 10:38:45 am
content: My FILCO keyboard is very good (and was expensive) and is made in Taiwan but it isn't wireless but I'm sure they do wireless models (I prefer a wired connection).Also the pinnacle of keyboards are the unicomp keyboards which are made in Kentucky - I've always wanted one (they took over the IBM model M board manufacture) but the postage to the UK is rather pricey..https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/SFNT

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 07, 2022, 02:42:36 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on May 06, 2022, 08:53:09 pmYup, it's not standard-layout, in my opinion it's better for Vim and Emacs since it's based on the old SUN-Type3 layout made for UNIX.I have an old Lite2 PS/2, it's seriously better for that.I have a second brand new Cherry keyboard G84-5500 with touch-pad. It's a standard PS/2 keyboard in black color with US layout and a very good and precise 1000dpi touch-pad. I bought two of these keyboards. One for me, one for a dude who then changed his mind.Lesson learned, never anticipate the money for other people.Let me know if you want it. It's made in Germany.

author: brumbarchris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 07, 2022, 03:00:58 pm
content: Nah, thanks, I would need wireless. That's also one of the reasons I am not going for the Unicomp ones (which otherwise would fit the bill): they do not have wireless models.BR,Cristian