Which product made in where?! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: eddyman
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 23, 2011, 11:01:22 pm
content: hi all,this is my first post:)i think its important to know that manufacturers manufacture their products in which country...so we can share our information...remind you that i talk about new products;not old,also Original not fake!(some of them have star it means i dont have more info.)TektronixHeadquarter:USAMade in ChinaFLUKEHeadquarter:USAMade in ChinaAGILENTHeadquarter:USAMade in MalasyaExtech InstrumentsHeadquarter:USAMade in Taiwan*AMPROBEHeadquarter:USAMade in ?*BK PrecisionHeadquarter:USAMade in ?*Mastech InstrumentHeadquarter:USAMade in ?Gossen Metrawatt:Headquarter: GermanyMade in GermanyHIOKIHeadquarter: JapanMade in Japan*YokogawaHeadquarter:JapanMade in ?GW InstekHeadquarter:TaiwanMade in Taiwan(some China)*TopwardHeadquarter:Taiwan(not sure)Made in TaiwanLUTRONHeadquarter:TaiwanMade in TaiwanAPPA TechnologyHeadquarter: TaiwanMade in TaiwanSinometerHeadquarter: ChinaMade in China(its easy to say that:D)please improve...(sorry if ive made some mistakes)BR

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 12:42:49 am
content: Most large companies will manufacture products in multiple countries. Companies like Tek, Fluke or Agilent will produce their expensive items containing many trade secrets in the US, but produce their lower end products which don't contain much proprietary information and which require less advanced manufacturing techniques (less communication needed between design and manufacturing) in cheaper countries.

author: eddyman
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 11:05:29 am
content: Quote from: alm on December 24, 2011, 12:42:49 amcould you possible give some examples from fluke,Agilent or tek products that manufacture in usa?

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 11:29:14 am
content: What is the point of such a list? Tomorrow it will be outdated already, when some manager in some company decides to move some manufacturing or start some new manufacturing somewhere else. Do you want to commit yourself to maintain the list until then end of your life? Or is it just some nationalistic thing "Americans, buy American!"? China has become the workbench of the world, live with it.

author: eddyman
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 11:46:13 am
content: Quote from: BoredAtWork on December 24, 2011, 11:29:14 amThe point is clear: informing,quality and originality...

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 11:50:18 am
content: I just looked into the Fluke "made-in" recently AKA, country of origin [ that's were most of the work is done despite the origin of the parts] because of a thread I started that someone questioned the origin of the Fluke 179.From this list 50% of their total wares originate in the USA. I vaguely remember their top bench meter, the 8846 being Chinese, as mentioned in this list, but recent photos from distributors have a made in USA stamp on it. From the list ~20% are from China [ not Taiwan].http://www.lwfrench.com/resources/fluke-country-of-origin-list/A simple way to check individual devices is to use a large distributor, like Grainger, and check the country of origin.http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/AMPROBE-Compact-Digital-Multimeter-1WKN1?Pid=searchTek has a serial number sequence:http://www.tek.com/export_codesFWIW there is a trend to move manufacturing away from China because at their current state of development they are not as competitive, added to it rising fuel costs. For the USA market, the movement is to Mexico and back to the USA, principally the south, and for international sites like India and Vietnam.Quote from: eddyman on December 24, 2011, 11:05:29 am

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 12:44:48 pm
content: Quote from: eddyman on December 24, 2011, 11:46:13 amHogwash.Information will devalue if you don't maintain the list. And you didn't commit to maintain the list for the foreseeable future.Quality of what? Quality in a manufacturing place can rapidly change and even the place of manufacturing can change rapidely.Originality of what? Place of manufacturing and place of design don't have much to do with each other. You can get an original design manufactured in China, and you can do some mee-to product done in the US, too.Why aren't you honest and just admit that you want to do some "Buy American" propaganda? And why don't you have the balls to commit maintaining the list for, lets say, the next three years?

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 02:06:56 pm
content: Well of course we all know it is made in a factory called UK / USA / Canada all located in china

author: robrenz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 03:28:04 pm
content: Quote from: saturation on December 24, 2011, 11:50:18 am8846A is made in the USA. I talked to Fluke tech support before purchase which is located in the same building where they are made. Design, sheet metal, circuit board, reference aging, assembly, and calibration all occur there. just like anything electronic some individual components are not made in the USA.

author: eddyman
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 05:26:44 pm
content: Quote from: saturation on December 24, 2011, 11:50:18 amgreat post man,thank youi think some products that manufacture in their own country such as that list you sent have a little "old date of production",actually im not sure but in my opinion the older pruducts are more original! for example may be you can find fluke 115 that is made in usa.however some manufacturer are always on their own i.e Hioki is a great japanese brand and ive never seen chinese hioki or such as that.another great japanese brand is yokogawa that i dont know its country of origin?grainger.com is not complete but it has helped me becuase it gives country of origin for each product.BR

author: Zad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 07:15:49 pm
content: My Fluke 233 is made in the USAThe disclaimer is usually "the last major manufacturing process". Which could just mean that they put a Chinese PCB inside a Chinese case.

author: eddyman
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 07:54:34 pm
content: Quote from: Zad on December 24, 2011, 07:15:49 pmwhen did you buy it?

author: ipman
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 09:18:20 pm
content: Usually high-end Fluke's are made in USA. Most of them have a lifetime warranty.The ones made in China have a time-limited warranty.

author: grenert
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 09:33:12 pm
content: Quote from: eddyman on December 24, 2011, 05:26:44 pmYour statement above points out the futility of this exercise.Compare the Chinese Escort multimeter below with the "Japanese" Hioki.http://catalogue.techno-test.com/products/1-Test___Measurement/9-Multimeter___Clamp_On___LCR/152-Hand_Held_Multimeter/517-EDM_99-Escort_EDM_99_Handheld_Digital_Multimeters.htmlhttp://www.hioki.com/product/38010250/index.html

author: eddyman
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 24, 2011, 11:26:13 pm
content: Quote from: grenert on December 24, 2011, 09:33:12 pmi mean hioki doesnt manufacture in china or another countries,hioki products are always made in japan.that was misunderstanding!

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2011, 10:55:53 am
content: Quote from: eddyman on December 24, 2011, 11:05:29 amThe Fluke 87V has "Made in the USA stamped on it. And I'm lead to believe that all the top end Flukes are also made in the USA at their Everett Washington plant.Dave.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 25, 2011, 11:03:01 am
content: Quote from: Zad on December 24, 2011, 07:15:49 pmIn the case of Fluke it's not. They do almost everything in-house in their US plant, and those products get "limited lifetime warranty".Of course, the actual electronics components could be sourced from any of the many countries that the major chip and component manufacturers have fab houses in. That could also include the US, but you generally don't specify which fab your parts come from.Dave.

author: Zad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2011, 03:38:10 pm
content: Quote from: eddyman on December 24, 2011, 07:54:34 pmJust under a year ago I think.

author: Neilm
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2011, 10:28:26 am
content: You might also have the same instrument made at different parts of the world. If they meet 61010 then they should be clearly marked with where they were made.Also, some big companies may have different divisions across the world, both making high end product but in different areas of the market.Neil

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2012, 12:17:22 pm
content: You're welcome. But as Bored.. and others have suggested, where its made isn't as important as the way the management treats quality control for products that bear its name. So a Fluke made in China, still carries the quality associated with Fluke; what Fluke has done is that the lower line T&M gear are from China, most likely because that's all their capable off before strange issues crop up with their quality control reviews, while the higher tier ones are made in countries with more reliable working environments.Bored is right about the 'propaganda' protectionist association with the made-in labels. A use for the country of origin relates to taxes, but for end users its matter little if the company does its quality control properly. What I've noticed is many technicians are insecure about their jobs and foreign products, so in the USA the blue collar folks, who mostly buy DMM and similar instruments, are likely to care about 'made in USA' because of their own prejudices.Quote from: eddyman on December 24, 2011, 05:26:44 pm

author: wkb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 04, 2012, 12:30:35 pm
content: Reading my (granted, 1980-s) Tektronix scope user's manual I noticed that based on the serial number you could determine where it was produced. Could be the US, could be the UK, could be (didn't know that..) here in the Netherlands.