New DSO is arround the corner... - Page 1
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author: hacklordsniper
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2011, 11:44:16 am
content: Hey guys,I'm sharing with you a new information, don't ask from where it comes and don't tell i told youOwon wants piece of cake in the DSO market and is coming with new scopes, ditching the PDS and PDS (NEW) series. The first scope will be released approximately in third quarter of this year and its aimed to directly take the Rigol DS1052E from its throne. BW is 60 MHz, i have pictures and specs sheets. The rest will follow until first quarter of next year and should go up to 500 MHz. I will post them later today arriving home, just read the information in my web mail directly from Owon.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2011, 11:55:03 am
content: Owon's handheld scope could be a really nice piece of kit if they rewrote the software - it works OK, but the user interface is a complete dog. I don't know if their benchtop units are any better.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2011, 12:02:30 pm
content: Nice score!Let's see'em!Dave.

author: mitpatterson
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2011, 04:43:09 pm
content: Dave, mabey you should see if you can get in contact with someone there and get a demo unit before release like you did with the Agilent

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2011, 04:58:30 pm
content: Yeah, practise that Chinese.

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2011, 05:03:34 pm
content: as long as it involves going to the local Chinese take out i am happy to practise Chinesethey make the most fabulous mixed vegetable curry

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 23, 2011, 05:20:42 pm
content: Try snake blood or jellyfish tentacles or any of these as captured from downtown Beijing, where therealChinese cuisine can be found! We digress.http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8900/dsc01603t.jpg

author: hacklordsniper
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 23, 2011, 07:25:54 pm
content: I will get a demo unit in about a month (teardown guaranteed). Will finish work in hour or two, come home and post everything...

author: hacklordsniper
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 06:12:58 am
content: DissapointedI have specs only for 60 MHz for now, they will go up to 500 MHz . I will post as i get them... Generally alot on noise from Owon but after seeing it, fail.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 06:26:34 am
content: business is business. not magic, unless its half the price.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 06:28:15 am
content: Thanks for sharing!Is it just me or is that one BUTT UGLY scope?Where is the USB host?500MS/s?Dave.

author: hacklordsniper
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 07:08:07 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on February 24, 2011, 06:28:15 amYeah, only nice LCDOn the side, you can see it in spec sheetI will recopy mail from Owon later, reading it yesterday and seeing specs later i dont understand it

author: george graves
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 07:12:37 am
content: I threw up in my mouth a little bit. It looks like it was designed by Oldsmobile or something.

author: PeterG
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 08:08:39 am
content: I cant put my finger on it, but it just doesn't look rite.Regards

author: hacklordsniper
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 02:07:34 pm
content: Quote from: tinhead on February 24, 2011, 01:13:04 pmJust a note that 500 Mhz model wont be available atleast 3 years. I was just confirmed in about 1 year they will release 200 MHz model. First is 60 MHz somwhere at end of this year, fresh information from e-mail recieved today. Why they take so much time to develop between models, i really dont know...

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 02:42:52 pm
content: That is just terrible. Several steps back in the evolution of scopes or more like a side step. Look at the buttons below the screen...terrible.It takes so long because its just one guy designing this trying to find the cheapest suppliers ever.I am curious to see the menu system.

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 05:18:59 pm
content: trust me. 3 years from now, when the 500MHz unit is ready, its not going to price like 50MHz unit now. so i better enjoy the oxygen as much as i can during the years.

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 24, 2011, 07:42:40 pm
content: Yes, thanks for sharing the advance notice. Still, we had to judge a book by its content, not its cover. Too bad its such a low sampling rate, 250 Ms/s dual channel, per the spreadsheet. The pic should have been made with a sample waveform on it.The spreadsheet has added hi res photos, the ports are on the side: USB x 2 and RS-232.Quote from: EEVblog on February 24, 2011, 06:28:15 am

author: ianryeng
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2011, 05:47:03 am
content: It may not be attractive and has a low(er) sample rate than its competitors but did you see how thin it is? Might be worth the compromise if space is an issue...I also am curious if this will actually be 800x? after their previous larger screen models with their 4:1 pixel upconverting for lack of a better description.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 25, 2011, 06:12:24 am
content: Quote from: hacklordsniper on February 24, 2011, 02:07:34 pm3 years?A good 500MHz analog front end is not easy to design, but geeze. It's rare someone would put a 3 year design cylce timeframe on a product like this these days.Dave.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2011, 06:33:59 am
content: The thing looks tacky. Part from it is maybe because the shown unit might be a mock-up. But part from it is indeed the design. This is strange.I am not going to say that Owon had beautifully looking oscilloscopes in the past, but they managed to give them an individual look. They even went so fare as to offer them in two colorshttp://owon.co.uk/MSO1.jpgOK, they always felt a little bit tacky when it came to build quality, but they looked good.But that thing? That thing has a touch of a CRT TV from the '50th. You know, when a TV wasn't only a TV but also a piece of furniture.Why three years? Maybe Owon's owner is believing in the old communist way of planing ahead? Maybe they have a three year plan, like in "the good old days"? Looking at what is available today, sticking to that three year plan will make them irrelevant in the low-end oscilloscope market. Unless, of course, this is a deliberately placed red herring. What do we know about the source of the images and information?

author: hacklordsniper
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 25, 2011, 08:40:16 am
content: Quote from: BoredAtWork on February 25, 2011, 06:33:59 amThe information is genuine from Owon, since I'm authorized dealer for some companies from China, Owon somehow contacted me and offered me their DSO-s since i have some negotiations with other company for importing DSO-s at this time. I'm not sure how they came in contact with me and knew im planning to import DSO-s from some other competition, but information somehow leaked.If there is some insinuations that i photo shopped that images, imagined specs and published them here because i had no better things to do, then you are very wrong

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 26, 2011, 03:18:37 am
content: Quote from: hacklordsniper on February 25, 2011, 08:40:16 amleak? by the insider or someone in the business along the line. just as you, a dealer. now you leak their info to us, thanx alot. ask them to do better, instead of a furniture tv.

author: hacklordsniper
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2011, 06:39:41 am
content: Just got this, 300 Mhz version released... coming for review and teardown...

author: grenert
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2011, 03:11:46 pm
content: In the catalog, I think it's funny how obvious the image of the MSO model is a computer mockup

author: MrPlacid
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2011, 04:28:54 pm
content: Three years development? Where is my dual touch screen DSO??? I want my zooming in and out of waveforms with pinching and spreading my fingers, and I also want my scrolling of the time axis with one finger!

author: hacklordsniper
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 21, 2011, 05:58:24 pm
content: Well again a fail... After agreeing to invoice a sample of the 300 MHz scope Owon and waiting for it i just recieved another e-mail. Basically its this:"unfortunately our engineer found some problems in SmartDS series so launch is again delayed. Can i interest you in PDS series, they are trustworthy oscilloscopes?"