Fractal-Wind-Energy-System - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Dhela
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 10:42:54 am
content: The Fractal Wind Energy System - how unique geometries (boomerang, spiral) and materials (honeycomb structures) can amplify and redirect energy waves, enabling efficient energy harvesting. This work builds on my novel theory that space, time, and energy are interconnected, emergent phenomena.Is one prototype here that you can do, I am just the theory *kernel* and if this work there are many prototypes more to use my new mathematical framework.Here is the repository for the prototypehttps://github.com/gatanegro/Fractal-Wind-Energy-SystemThank youI

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 03:18:40 pm
content: Quote from: Dhela on March 09, 2025, 10:42:54 amContext from that github page...Fractal-Wind-Energy-System...we aim to validate the feasibility of a vibration and resonance-based wind energy system, opening new doors for sustainable energy solutions....project that reimagines energy systems using advanced principles of field dynamics, resonance, and energy density scaling....This work builds on the idea that space, time, and energy are interconnected, emergent phenomena.1. Everything is Energy:...- Space, time, and mass emerge from oscillating energy fields....- High-density zones of energy arise through wave interactions and resonance.Looks like it would be useful for you to provide peer-reviewed papers defining what could be achieved, and how.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 05:37:16 pm
content: That's not a peer reviewed publication.Simulations mean nothing unless they are based on a solid theory.A theory is nothing without predictions andfalsifiabletests that have been executed and prove the predictions

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 06:08:18 pm
content: I suspected it would descend into a conspiracy theory rant.You make extraordinary claims therefore you need to provide extraordinary proof.I'm out.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 07:55:14 pm
content: Quote from: Dhela on March 09, 2025, 10:42:54 amCan we stop for a sec and ask you to :+ define "energy waves"+ clarify the meaning of "amplify" energy. My humble opinion is amplifying energy involves spending additional energy, which makes energy harvesting a moot point.+ clarify the meaning of "redirect" energy. I have no idea you talking about. I am familiar with the concept of directional couplers for the purpose of Measuring waves but not sure how/if it applies to your post.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 08:32:30 pm
content: I think he is saying something that converts wind energy to vibrations to power some kind of generator. So this thing would shake like mad if you blow air on it ?While I don't comprehend it, it makes me think of some metal alloy like Terfenol-D, in a weak conceptual senseSo if its working this thing should shriek like a banshee, easy testSome kind of whistle tuning fork mashed potatoes .... connected to... a piezo generator?Anyway, it should be obscenely loud, I thinkAn interesting science philosophical idea, a material that turns flow into sound at high efficiency. If this works, its amusing to think what would happen if you wrapped a 500lb bomb in this shitI do wonder if its possible to connect a piezogenerator to a whistle though?

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 08:40:23 pm
content: just run it no load and it should blow out your ear drums and explode

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 08:42:23 pm
content: A speaker is like 3% efficent. So a 500W speaker is 15 watts. If you had 1 kW device it would have the power of a conventional 30kW speaker lolhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SoundSystem/comments/n8ybkz/my_custom_built_soundsystem_built_jamaican_style/

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 08:45:32 pm
content: It's also interesting from an idea of flow control, because if your extracting energy from the wind, you slow it down. that means friction and clogging. Think sail boat. Every atom of wind has a momentum if you get energy from that momentum it ends up being without flow meaning its a obstruction to particles in motion (conservation of energy)I am not validating your concepts just imaging the properties of such a theoretical device , kind of like thinking about negative mass or whatever

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 09:10:12 pm
content: Shakespeare, Henry IV part I. Act 3, scene 1.GLENDOWERI can call spirits from the vasty deep.HOTSPURWhy, so can I, or so can any man;But will they come when you do call for them?

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 09:30:33 pm
content: WARNING: (OP) Possible bot or something, VERY ODD!With one of those very weird, YouTube pages/channels, which seems to be (probably) AI generated.See here, which was found, from the OP's detail(s).

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 09, 2025, 10:08:53 pm
content: I've had a quick skim through what you seem to be saying (on github).But, no, you CAN'T amplify, energy, to create more and more energy, out of nothing, or space, and/or wind vibrations.No.Free-energy etc, doesn't work. As far as I have been led, to understand.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2025, 12:36:19 am
content: Clarification, just in case anyone is confused.Extract from their github page:QuoteWhich seems (I could be wrong), to tie in, to where they mention zero-point energy (YouTube). Which, seems to tie in with free-energy.Anyway, they seem to want money.Again the github page.QuoteAlso, they seem to have got into a big huff, with me?, and deleted most of their posts.It seemed to be a post count of 11, now seems to say 3, so maybe they have rage quit?

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2025, 12:48:48 am
content: Quote from: MK14 on March 10, 2025, 12:36:19 amYeah, they've been rumbled.Sometimes I will quote a message just to ensure history isn't "revised".

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2025, 02:27:05 am
content: I still don't think its totally a bad idea, because pipes do rumble when they flow water. This is theoretically usable energy without moving parts, only flexing parts.The closest real energy source to this is sea wave extractors.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_powerA solid state version would be interesting, even if it has 1% of the efficiency of the mechanical one.Unlike wind stuff, some of the sea ones do something other then spin (a refreshing concept), but none are near solid state I think. The idea would be to limit flexing to the area where there is nearly infinite cycle life.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelamis_Wave_Energy_Converter

author: ahbushnell
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: March 10, 2025, 03:41:26 pm
content: Quote from: Dhela on March 09, 2025, 10:42:54 amSounds like someone stringing words together. Build a prototype and prove it.

author: mikerj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 11, 2025, 09:55:26 am
content: Quote from: coppercone2 on March 10, 2025, 02:27:05 amUnless a rumbling pipe was the goal, then this is called an energyloss, i.e. energy is being taken from the moving water, reducing it's energy.

author: Dhela
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 11, 2025, 03:50:27 pm
content: How It Work:Wind Capture:Wind enters the system through the boomerang-shaped inlet, where its flow is redirected and accelerated by the geometry.Flow Channeling:The honeycomb walls guide the wind into smaller, fractal-like pathways, increasing turbulence and pressure.Energy Amplification:The pyramid resonator amplifies the vibrations or pressure waves created by the wind.Energy Conversion:Piezoelectric elements convert the mechanical energy from vibrations or pressure into electrical energy.Consider using TPU (Thermoplastic Polyurethane) for flexible or vibration-dampening components if needed.Piezoelectric Strips or Discs: Ensure they are placed in high-vibration or high-pressure zones for optimal energy harvesting.Sensors:Anemometer: To measure wind speed and validate airflow efficiency.Accelerometer: To monitor vibrations and resonance behavior.Suggestion: Add a microcontroller (e.g., Arduino or Raspberry Pi) for data logging and real-time monitoring.Adhesive: Use epoxy or cyanoacrylate (super glue) for strong, durable bonds.Soldering Kit: For integrating sensors and piezoelectric elements.Suggestion: Include a multimeter for testing electrical output from the piezoelectric components.Software Tools:CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics):OpenFOAM: Open-source and highly customizable for airflow simulations.ANSYS Fluent: Industry-standard for detailed fluid dynamics analysis.Autodesk CFD: User-friendly and integrates well with CAD models.Parameters:Airflow Speeds: Test at 5 m/s, 10 m/s, and 15 m/s to cover a range of wind conditions.Resonance Frequencies: Sweep from 10 Hz to 1000 Hz to identify optimal frequencies for energy amplification.Material Properties: Use standard density and elasticity values for PLA/PETG to ensure realistic simulations.How to Simulate/Estimate Efficiency:Energy Conversion Efficiency:Use piezoelectric material datasheets to estimate conversion efficiency (typically 10-30% for most piezoelectric materials).Simulate the piezoelectric response using tools like COMSOL or MATLAB.Empirical Testing:Build a small-scale prototype and measure the actual energy output using a multimeter or power analyzer.Example Estimates:Energy Output (kW):For a small-scale prototype (e.g., 1 m² cross-section):Input wind energy at 10 m/s: ~600 watts/m².Assuming 20% efficiency: ~120 watts (0.12 kW) output.For a larger system (e.g., 10 m² cross-section):Input wind energy at 10 m/s: ~6,000 watts.Assuming 20% efficiency: ~1.2 kW output.Noise Levels (dB):Low-frequency sound waves (30-60 Hz): ~80-100 dB at close range.Mitigation: Reduce to ~60-70 dB with sound-dampening materials.Efficiency:Current piezoelectric materials: 10-30% efficiency.System efficiency (including airflow losses): ~10-20%.

author: coppercone2
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 12:37:10 am
content: Quote from: mikerj on March 11, 2025, 09:55:26 amnot if there is wires coming out of it making a rectifable voltage

author: mikerj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 09:15:55 am
content: Quote from: Dhela on March 11, 2025, 03:50:27 pmThis is simply woo, the finest distilled snake oil. Turbulence represents energy loss and causes a pressure drop, not an increase. You cannot "amplify" a signal (i.e. increase it's power) without external power input, if you could do this it would be perpetual motion.Quote from: coppercone2 on March 12, 2025, 12:37:10 amIrrespective, it's an energy loss from the water. Recovering some of that loss and converting it to electricity doesn't give the energy back to the water.

author: Dhela
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 01:28:23 pm
content: Now explain how the nautilus sound *come from nothing*? The geometry of the shell amplify the background sound without external *amplification input*.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 01:40:37 pm
content: Quote from: Dhela on March 12, 2025, 01:28:23 pmYou could have a pair of binoculars, or telescope, with a x10 to x50, or more zoom lens.But it would not be the same, as a real amplifier, with between x10 to x50 gain, because the field of view, reduces, in the necessary proportions, to provide the (apparent) gain/amplification, which is probably the wrong term, anyway.I.e. Your sound horn (or whatever you want to call it), receives sound, from a much larger diameter, than the 'output' part, that can go close to your ear, so it would NOT be an overall gain in energy, from the original sound (or light, for telescopes etc), as the output has the same (less, because of inefficiencies), overall energy, from going in to going out, just over a much smaller area, overall.A bit like a big magnifying glass, can ***amplify*** (but not really, it is more of a concentrator, or whatever it should be called, properly), the sunlight, so that it can burn/singe a piece of paper, outside, in direct sunlight, in summer.I.e. No overall energy gain, so can't be used to turn weak natural energy sources, into big and very powerful ones. But can be used, to allow energy to be collected from a larger area, if it is suitably sized, a bit like a giant ships sail, to increase the overall energy extraction.E.g. Massive solar panels or smaller ones, with a huge system of magnifying glasses, to increase the overall area of light collection, can work. But NOT a tiny solar cell, with a tiny magnifying lens to provide ***amplification*** so big, a tiny 1 inch square with magnifying glass, can replace a giant solar energy farm sized plant, over many acres.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 01:59:32 pm
content: Quote from: Dhela on March 12, 2025, 01:28:23 pmLookup power transfer optimisation. The lens suggested by MK14 is a good example. You can use a lens to concentrate sun light into a small (very) hot spot. But the total amount of energy remains the same. Amplification implies adding extra energy which has to come from somewhere.

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: March 12, 2025, 02:08:18 pm
content: Amplification:Sometime around 1960, on the “Watch Mr. Wizard” educational TV program, I learned that amplification meant using the input signal to control a source of power to output a larger signal.