which computer is better for me to buy? - Page 1
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author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 06:37:48 pm
content: this could seriousley help me, once you have voted please tell me of an example for sale.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 06:39:38 pm
content: the emac g4 is my 1st choice but i wanted some one elses opinion. i may still change my mind about the emac g4.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 06:47:14 pm
content: Depends what do you want to do with it. For my electronics needs I got about a year ago a system for just $139.80 including taxes.(Open Box) HP DC8000 Desktop ComputerOff-Lease Refurbished; Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor 3.0GHz; Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit; 4GB DDR3-1333 RAM; 160GB Hard Drive; DVD-RW Drive; Display Not IncludedPower supply can't handle high end graphics cards but I'm not planning to play games in this rig.I added some memory and a couple of 500GB drives and I'm quite happy since the memory and the drives were free to me.Edit: to highlight that it was also open box on top of off-lease and refurbished. Yeah I'm a cheapskate and I rather spend the money on dev boards and equipment

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 06:50:14 pm
content: Zx spectrum with the runber keypads or a ti99/4a

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 08:08:19 pm
content: all i need is something that can check emails and successfully get onto youtube. I sort of want a second hand computer rather than a new one because i can poke it with a stick when it goes wrong. as for the OS, im not bothered aslong as it can support google chrome and actually run it properly.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 08:18:15 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 05, 2015, 08:08:19 pmThen sort by price and grab the cheapest.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 08:49:02 pm
content: I would not grab the cheapest. If you want a reliable PC buy one which is made for use in an office. These are designed to run the whole day for years. If money is tight you could try and find an ex-lease machine at a computer shop. Don't expect fancy graphics cards (not necessary for office use).

author: PeterFW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 08:54:46 pm
content: With your POU it is fairly simple.If you have money coming out the wazoo one of the apple things, anny of those will do.If you want the same and more functionality for way less money, the cheapest dell.Edit: Oh... i forgot, you do not repair apple things, you replace them

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 09:18:07 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 05, 2015, 08:08:19 pmPretty sure that you'll have troubles with youtube with any of those. If it will run, then only on lowest resolutions at best.QuoteThey are not second hand but history for quiet some time.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 09:28:05 pm
content: Why are you picking computers older than you are?

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 09:39:38 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 05, 2015, 09:28:05 pmIt's the way I pick my women, there are advantages lol

author: eas
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 10:25:35 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 05, 2015, 08:08:19 pmGetting on Youtube is easy. Successfully playing back good quality videos, on the other hand, is more computationally expensive than many people imagine, doing it in a web browser, even more so. I don't know how well a G4 will do for example. I know a Core2 Duo can work surprisingly hard. More recent CPUs and GPUs often have dedicated function blocks that can offload a lot of decode, but only if the software stack supports it.Finally, Google Chrome is an inefficient pig. I thought it might just be a problem with their OS X version, but it uses lots of memory and CPU for background windows/tabs on Windows too.I don't think any of them are worth the money or effort. I needed a Windows box to run some instrumentation software and so I bought a small form factor HP with a refurbished 3.0GHz Core2 Duo with 2GB and a 160GB HDD, a Win7 Pro License, unused keyboard and mouse for ~$100. If I were going to upgrade it, I'd put in an SSD. It's passable for my purposes, and would probably be passable for yours, certainly much more so than any of the other systems you've mentioned.If you don't need or care about licensed Windows, you could probably get a somewhat faster machine for somewhat less that would probably do nicely with a linux targeted at somewhat older systems.

author: davorin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 10:28:03 pm
content: Whatever "rm f" series is...remind me of "/bin/rm -f" (o;Those models I recognize are rather old.....but honestly I have older models here at home...like SE/30...still my all time favorite..back then it could handle 256MB of RAM (o;I switched lately to Intel NUC i3 or i5 models...not only as they are small on the desk, silent but still powerful, but some models can run all major OS....like Windows, Linux, FreeBSD and even OSX through the osx86 project page....Personally I never had any PPC Apple models..and never liked them....and Jobs was finally convinced to switch to Intel as IBM/Motorola couldn't keep up with the GHz CPU clock. Arm CPUs are now in the same position...quad-core anything GHz..but compared to a dual-core Minnowboard....no chance (o;

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 10:40:57 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 05, 2015, 06:39:38 pmQuote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 05, 2015, 08:08:19 pmGood luck getting any vaguely recent version of Chrome to run on any of the Apple machines in your list. I'm not even going to bother checking out the PCs; I'll just assume they're similarly ancient.As a general tip: it might be worthwhile doing a bit of your own thinking, or at least Googling, before asking questions. Things like "What are the minimum OS X requirements for Chrome?" or "What is the most recent version of OS X I can install on a G4 eMac?" are pretty easy to find the answer to.

author: Zad
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 10:47:15 pm
content: If that is all you want to do then pretty much any Android tablet will allow you to email, surf the Interwebnet and stream 1080 YouTube. Save the rest of your money and start to build yourself a PC from components.

author: davorin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 10:49:36 pm
content: I don't think the question was serious as all models are way too obsolete (o;And there is no "rm f" model.....see my "/bin/rm -f" comment above ;-)And there was gladly no Chrome back then...remember Netscape?There was also a web server called Netscape we used back then at CompuServe....if someone remembers what CompuServe was (o;

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 11:05:06 pm
content: Quote from: davorin on June 05, 2015, 10:49:36 pmEr, actually, yes, there was.

author: davorin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 11:10:41 pm
content: Yes? (o;So which was first...the computer or the UNIX command? ;-)Must have been before my Windows 2.0, GEM 3.0, CP/M times (o;

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 11:13:18 pm
content: Quote from: davorin on June 05, 2015, 11:10:41 pmProbably the command, but it's close. Research Machines was founded in 1973. They don't really reach the territories.

author: davorin
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 11:20:57 pm
content: Well seems the original poster is absent and we are drifting into retro computing....where his question wasn't that far away (o;My personal favorite is still to own a HP-85....not sure if it can do Chrome and Youtube or other Your*** (o;Hopefully GPIB....

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 05, 2015, 11:22:02 pm
content: Quote from: davorin on June 05, 2015, 10:49:36 pmAh, so more of the usual from the usual. Time to update that list again...

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 08:42:25 am
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 05, 2015, 09:28:05 pmim not big on modern things, keep it simple stoopid! im running a celeron on a foxconn board at the monment and it cant even get on google plus but it can do this forum. youtube is my prioritory and they stopped the classic uploader from being available to older web browsers on the 1st of june. i need something with enough power to cope with mozilla firefox atleast! the dell pc and laptop would probably be best for this but i like apple stuff of that time frame.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 08:43:44 am
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 06, 2015, 08:42:25 amNone of these machines are suitable.I think you will have to actually embrace the present.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 08:47:04 am
content: Quote from: Zad on June 05, 2015, 10:47:15 pmive already got a tablet but i cant connect my camera to it and like having the expandability of a desktop computer.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 08:48:38 am
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 05, 2015, 11:05:06 pmer yes there was, my school has 27 of them!

author: rr100
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 02:36:35 pm
content: G4 in 2015?! Let's try to be realistic here.Unless you're in Cuba or something the price for a basic desktop box (a useful one, with 1-2 GB RAM, etc) is essentialy zero if you ask enough (as there are so many thrown out). If you really don't know anybody and need a box for the least amount of money just sort by price in ebay and see what fits you.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 03:16:50 pm
content: Quote from: davorin on June 05, 2015, 11:20:57 pmabsent! ill give you absent in a minute!

author: Ian.M
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 03:22:24 pm
content: A near-obsolete desktop or tower PC has minimal expandability. Most new parts on the market wont be compatible and the supply of cheap used parts will have dried up. There will always be some shark selling the part you need for five or ten times the price of a similar new part, but thats just throwing your money away. I run various old PCs for various purposes, but I certainly don't upgrade them unless I get lucky scrapping another PC.

author: PeterFW
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 03:38:41 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 06, 2015, 08:43:44 amSince i have a compareable machine in the office wich is used in the manner wich the threadstarter wants to use it, i can most definately tell you that they are suitable.Shure, they will only play 320p video and a page load may take some time but they will work.But annyway, i too now suspect him to be either a little bit on the trolly or wonky side.

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 03:42:51 pm
content: all of these computers are so old that it would be a SHAME if someone sells one to youthey should GIVE them away for free...the G4 macs will be ok for the mail but certainly not for youtube you need a 10.6 os x system and you cannot install them on g4something like skype will run on minimum 10.6 till end 2015 then it will need 10.7even the first intel mac dont run 10.7...forget anything that old for any video and internet related things.for the windows pc I dont know but they seems to be of the same era...

author: Isad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 06:22:34 pm
content: Hey allSo reading throught the coments and seeing what u lookingat its probably better to tell us your budged cuz those pc wontdo a lot for youtube or anything.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 07:26:49 pm
content: Quote from: Isad on June 06, 2015, 06:22:34 pmbudget? around 100 pounds, id really like to spend less and as for the age thing, i really dont think it matters. trust the expert in elderly electronics to know!

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 07:37:09 pm
content: 100 pounds is enough for a reasonable ex-lease business machine (go for Dell or HP).

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 07:44:54 pm
content: If you really want a Dell D600, there'soneon eBay currently for £19.99. No bids, 12h left. No USB either, but for £19.99 what do you expect?The Dell Latitude is a nice solid business class laptop, but with a budget of £100 or less I'd splurge £74.99 on a D620. There's one with a dual core CPU, 1.5GB of memory, 120GB hard drive and a 1 year warrantyhere.

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 08:34:28 pm
content: Quote from: rolycat on June 06, 2015, 07:44:54 pmBrilliant machines, they even have a proper RS232 and parallel port. I use them everyday for my real work.

author: Isad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 09:14:05 pm
content: There is actually some good stuff on the uk ebay site for around 60 punds didnt go much higher.But for sure u can get some better stuff then those old thingis.

author: miguelvp
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2015, 09:24:53 pm
content: Quote from: Isad on June 06, 2015, 09:14:05 pmThe thing is that if you knew the OP (his 2nd time around the forum) you would know that he likes old things, specially radios.Even placing a newer motherboard if those older cases supported them might not be of his liking.

author: Isad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2015, 09:32:32 am
content: Quote from: miguelvp on June 06, 2015, 09:24:53 pmOh yeah i saw something he posted i am back lol i dont know him so yeah but if old is his thingthen i dont think i am ver usefull here.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2015, 07:10:02 pm
content: Quote from: miguelvp on June 06, 2015, 09:24:53 pmaint got a problem with new computers other than the looks and the price.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2015, 07:12:54 pm
content: Quote from: Isad on June 07, 2015, 09:32:32 amfirst time around, i saved all of my stuff on my tablet which is suffering so i had to make a new account with the old one being unaccessable.

author: allen.gordon
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2015, 07:49:29 pm
content: I couldn't vote for any of those with a clear conscious. You can spend some time on tigerdirect.com or newegg.com and assemble quite a powerful system for much less than mass-produced. And I'm not talking about the newest gear, just great components! I recall buying my first PC in the early 90's with a 386DX processor. It was released in the mid 80's, so it was significantly outdated, but still relevant! I highly suggest going that route and build EXACTLY what you want!

author: Isad
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2015, 08:25:23 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 09, 2015, 07:12:54 pmfirst time around, i saved all of my stuff on my tablet which is suffering so i had to make a new account with the old one being unaccessable.Oh did you forget your password and then get locked out of your email lol.That happend to me 1 thanks i have learnd from that .

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 09, 2015, 08:42:38 pm
content: Quote from: allen.gordon on June 09, 2015, 07:49:29 pmI have never bought a new desktop PC because I prefer to build my own, but the days of being able to save serious money by doing so are long gone. This is especially true with Arlen's budget of under £100, which essentially limits him to second hand machines.The stores you mention are also unlikely to be a viable source of components for someone in the UK.

author: Simon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 09, 2015, 09:15:13 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 05, 2015, 08:08:19 pmAny £100-200 laptop off ebay wil be fine. I tend to assemble my own PC's so that I can spend money where i need it, for example i never bother too much with graphics but aim for my system memory and cpu speed, i usually buy a cheap graphics card to get me going then upgrade later.

author: allen.gordon
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2015, 02:33:08 am
content: Quote from: rolycat on June 09, 2015, 08:42:38 pmAgreed. I posted a reply after reading a few comments... Discovered the new information after the post. I'm unfamiliar with the UK market, and certainly can't build a PC for ~$150!I can't afford a mass-produced PC with half the capability of my current setup has, so I continue to build/upgrade my own one component at a time. I have a rather modest performer. It has decent benchmarks, but I don't game. I record audio demos for artists in the New Orleans area, but the requirements are similar to gaming.I just upgraded to a 34" UltraWide monitor powered by a Radeon R9 290X. That should last me for quite sometime...Cheers

author: urbis
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 10, 2015, 03:18:02 pm
content: You have a £100 budget... stretch it to get this brand new?http://www.ebuyer.com/658956-lenovo-e50-desktop-pc-90bx0018uk

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2015, 03:41:53 pm
content: why has nobody voted for the emac g4?

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2015, 03:42:24 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 10, 2015, 03:41:53 pmBecause it's a ridiculous, ancient piece of kit with little to no practical use?

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2015, 04:36:28 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 onTodayat 02:41:53I've just picked up two of them from a customer : they go directly to the trash, after being zeroed.if you want to pick them up (east of france) they are free !I also got an imac g5 17" they are all working, may be the imac g5 will go on ebay but I'm not sure I will have time to do it...also an imac g3 if you want ? the blue one ... all are in full working order...

author: tyguy2
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 10, 2015, 04:42:06 pm
content: How much are you looking to spend?I just picked up a $25 Compaq PC from a thrift store, I'm sure you can do something similar. Since the company's acquisition by HP, their older computers (2008 and below) are REALLY cheap.Laptops:http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1311.R1.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xcompaq+.TRS0&_nkw=compaq+presario&_sacat=0Desktops:http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Compaq-Presario-CQ5300F-Desktop-PC-2-30GHz-2GB-320GB-/251987148496?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aab9abed0<-- Pretty good dealhttp://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=compaq+presario+desktop&_frs=1Those computers you have on the list are ancient, you probably shouldn't even bother with them.

author: allen.gordon
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2015, 10:24:23 pm
content: Quote from: urbis on June 10, 2015, 03:18:02 pmThat is a proper investment for a rather modest performer!I doubt you will find anything with better performance at a better price!!! This setup is approximately equal to my previous build, and I promise you I spent more than ~$175!!!With the inclusion of Windows 8.1, they should owe your money for putting up with it, but I hear great things about Windows 10! Free upgrade included in that bundle...

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2015, 04:21:35 pm
content: Quote from: kripton2035 on June 10, 2015, 04:36:28 pmthe emac g4's will get 20-30 pounds each on ebay, id reccomend you spend 10 mins putting them up.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2015, 04:33:09 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 11, 2015, 04:21:35 pmAnd cost £20-30 to ship. And the 10 minutes to put on eBay, plus the 30 minutes to package it, and deal with collection..They're hardly worth selling. And not worth buying.

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 11, 2015, 04:46:59 pm
content: Quote from: allen.gordon on June 10, 2015, 10:24:23 pmI'd go this route. If your comp is going to live on the bench you need Windows.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 12, 2015, 03:31:56 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 11, 2015, 04:33:09 pmi regret that i cant come and get them but please dont put them in the skip, theyll make a good nstarter system for somebody and dont forget that the poor starving africans cant even afford an 8088 processor never mind a system to go with it and youre just throwing them in the skip!

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 12, 2015, 03:35:44 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 12, 2015, 03:31:56 pmNot so much.QuoteThey have bigger worries than computers if they're starving, now don't they?I send much, much better hardware than eMac G4s to schools in less developed countries. By the hundreds.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2015, 01:34:24 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 12, 2015, 03:35:44 pmok, when the inevitably become collectable like all other apple computers, what will you think when you knew that you had some and i told you to keep them but you egnored me and threw them away

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2015, 01:36:00 pm
content: incidently, how can you access a windows shared HDD from an android device?

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2015, 01:40:13 pm
content: They won't become collectibles... some Apple computers were important in the history of personal computing, those are collectible. These were just random consumer crap.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 14, 2015, 03:00:23 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 14, 2015, 01:34:24 pmI've never had them, so I won't think anything. You might want to look over at the name, there's more than one person here.And no, they're not inevitably going to become collectible. Not all Apple computers are collectible, many areforgettable.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2015, 04:15:47 pm
content: Quote from: Monkeh on June 14, 2015, 03:00:23 pmwhy do people throw away working things just because they are old! if everybody thought like this then all of my 98 vintage radios wouldnt exist! incidently, im posting this from a 1998 celeron computer clocked at 1.8ghz and needs 6 cooling fans to stop it from over heeting so the g4 cant be that bad.

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2015, 04:17:31 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 15, 2015, 04:15:47 pmWe don't throw them away because they're old, we throw them away because they're obsolete.One day, you'll understand that time is precious..

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 15, 2015, 07:12:43 pm
content: just look at it : an emac g4 is still around 150€ worth on the used market !could you believe it !may be I will try them on ebay, but it will be for pickup only ...

author: urbis
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 16, 2015, 01:59:05 pm
content: Quote from: Arlen Moulton2 on June 15, 2015, 04:15:47 pmImpressive (BS!). My first machine in 1997 was a 166MHz Pentium with MMX... I doubt you could push a chip to 1.8GHz a year later...You seem to ask for advice, but never listen to it...

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 16, 2015, 04:38:04 pm
content: Quote from: urbis on June 16, 2015, 01:59:05 pm1998 was the year the famous Celeron 300A was released. They could generally be reliably overclocked from 300 to 450MHz, and a little higher if you were lucky. Someone in Finland managed to get one to 720MHz by cooling it to -65 degrees Celsius. 1.8GHz seems unlikely, however many fans you point at it.1998 was also several years before Arlen was born; his recollection may be a little hazy.

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 16, 2015, 06:31:39 pm
content: There have been a couple of comments on the Lattitude D620. I just sold one wit 4 Gig of ram, a 120 gig HDD and Win7 Ultimate 32 bit, with docking station and I threw in a monitor, keyboard and mouse. The only issue was the down arrow key was missing. I only got rid of it because my stepdaughter upgraded her laptop and gave me her old Dell Inspiron 3520 with a Core I3 and a 15.6" screen-I just needed to put in a new HDD which I had on hand. I would say get one if you can. They are true workhorses and can take a beating.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 18, 2015, 03:18:44 pm
content: Quote from: rolycat on June 16, 2015, 04:38:04 pmit is a 1998 computer but with a later celeron socket478 in it, the computer is 4 years older than me so i cant be relied on to recall perfect info about it, anyway, my knowledge is about radios not computers.

author: Derick Freese
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2015, 10:03:03 pm
content: So, you have a case and drives from a 1998 computer with a Celeron CPU, 478 motherboard, new RAM, new graphics card, and likely a new power supply? Once you replace the core components of a machine, it's a new machine.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2015, 10:49:26 pm
content: Quote from: Derick Freese on June 21, 2015, 10:03:03 pmI agree. The PC I just replaced was in a case which must be close to 20 years old but the rest was much newer. Except for the 3.5" disk drive -I think-.

author: Arlen Moulton2
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2015, 07:36:48 pm
content: Quote from: Derick Freese on June 21, 2015, 10:03:03 pmwhats with the 'this webpage cannot be displayed' sign on this post? it uses onboard graphics but the onboard audio chip is burnt through so a creative soundblaster audigy has been fitted, the cd drive is original to the unit but is a dvd drive!? the power supply would still be the original if it had the 12 volt connector for the cpu. this thing has so much cooling in it but still wont stay cool!

author: Derick Freese
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2015, 08:32:20 pm
content: It's an embedded YouTube video. My bets are on your browser not displaying it correctly. The computers you asked if would be suitable for you are about evenly matched for performance with your current machine. Since you're having issues with it, you really need to think about getting a computer made this decade at least.Playing with old computers is great fun, but when you need to do work on it, you want the best machine you can afford. Almost all PCs are easy to work on. A new one won't look all that unfamiliar to you if you've opened up your current one.

author: tyguy2
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 29, 2015, 03:21:42 pm
content: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/us-wtbtradedonationdiscount-buy-rigol-ds-1054z/There you go.

author: Muxr
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2015, 02:18:34 pm
content: I'd stay away from non Intel Macs. The software support is non existent. You may even have hard time watching YouTube on them. I have an old iMac G4 and Flash is so buggy on it that it struggles with YouTube.

author: shanky887614
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2015, 03:46:44 pm
content: if you want a cheap desktop get a second hand first generation i5.what is your budget?i would go for a windows pc there cheaper and there is more parts etc available.have a look at tomshardware at there buyers guide for a reasonable priced system that will last years

author: kripton2035
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2015, 06:34:11 am
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timestamp: July 02, 2015, 02:04:43 pm
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