QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands - Page 1
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author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 05:58:28 pm
content: Quick 861 Pro Lead-Free Smart Hot Air Desoldering Station1300W high power,Intelligent PID linear temperatureFull viewing angle HD color screen，Dynamic temperature displayAI voice control，Free your hands and move freelyUsing brushless vortex fan,Long life and low noise,70L/min large air volume,Low pressurecooling hibernation,Protect hot air handle,Extend heating core lifeCompact handle, ergonomically designedPDF nanual herewondering if anybody already got it, would be nice to hear some impression...PS: seems like the voice commands are a feature that once you tried you can't go back anymore...PSS: I already PM Steve... he should do a review...

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 09:18:22 pm
content: If you can just say "two fifty" and it changes to 250C... maybe see it being usable for some people. But my guess is it won't be that simple.At least they put dedicated CH1/CH2/CH3 presets on the front, those are actually useful to have. The TR1300A did not have those for some reason.

author: ataradov
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 01, 2024, 10:06:23 pm
content: There is a full list of supported commands (6 full pages). I don't know if it would understand anything else. To set 250, you would have to say "Temperature to Two Five Zero". It looks like a pretty basic voice recognition, not the modern "AI".I don't see this being useful in a shared lab or production environment.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 02, 2024, 01:23:41 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on May 01, 2024, 09:18:22 pmThere are4CH presets! Big plus for me!

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 02, 2024, 01:33:37 pm
content: Quote from: ataradov on May 01, 2024, 10:06:23 pmNo doubt, this is why you can deactivate the"AI"voice recognition.I am alone in the lab.... so no issue here.In my little experience with hot air gun, there is no point to set a precise temp.The main work is to adjust the gun distance and heating time by the user hand.It is always safer to start from a lower temp, this is why a need 1 or 2 iterations by bumping the temp up to get it right.Don't get me wrong, the more experience you have the quicker you are as always.Anyway if I could just say something instead to press a button (by look somewhere else and/or by interrupting the soldering job) I imagine it could be very practical.This is all in my speculations, this is why I started this thread to get a real life feedback...

author: jwehle
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 03, 2024, 06:29:35 am
content: I'm also interested in this product and hoping someone can share their experiences.Some random questions are:1) How useful is furnace mode?2) When cooling is activated does the unit actively ramp down the temperature so to minimizethermal stress (i.e. something like 4 degrees C per second) or does it just completely turnoff the heater and depend on the thermal mass of the heater to provide a "ramp")?3) Do nearby lights flicker or does the unit have a sufficient filter?PS: No interest in voice recognition ... turning it off will probably be the first setting I change.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2024, 12:50:22 pm
content: Seems like they are selling like hot pan cakes.I got one from Aliexpress for $355 plus change, shipping and tax included.Stay tuned.Quote from: jwehle on May 03, 2024, 06:29:35 amIf you are doing the same big chip reballing over and over again, I think maybe yes.For normal every day use, not so sure.Quote from: jwehle on May 03, 2024, 06:29:35 amDoes it make a big difference in the heater life time?IMHO the big point is to take the energy out when the heater is off, so it will not "cook off" with no air flow and degrade.Also in your proposal, the cooling time will take much longer... don't know if I want that.Quote from: jwehle on May 03, 2024, 06:29:35 amI hope the EMI filter is enough, if not it should be an easy upgrade.Quote from: jwehle on May 03, 2024, 06:29:35 amI was in your position, now I'm not so sure anymore. I will give it a try and report back.

author: jwehle
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 03, 2024, 04:42:38 pm
content: My question regarding using the cooling feature was in terms of safely cooling the piece being reworked.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 03, 2024, 05:11:36 pm
content: ah,I normally do it manually by slowly increasing the distance between the gun and the board... but I rarely do that... if you need something more reproducible/controlled I would try to run a profile in furnace mode.My guess is turn off and cool as fast as possible, anyway I will try of the cooling function and report back...

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 28, 2024, 04:08:06 am
content: well a colossal failure.The unit arrived is in chinese, everything. I can't use the voice commands.the included paper manual is in chinese, don't know how to change the language setting.According to the english manual online, there is no language setting.I started the return process.Otherwise, it looks very good!

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 28, 2024, 09:15:14 pm
content: Its a sign telling you to learn mandarin.Maybe you can try holding airflow up/down buttons at the same time. Or pressing down and left buttons.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 29, 2024, 04:04:29 am
content: Quote from: thm_w on May 28, 2024, 09:15:14 pmI will not learn mandarin ah ah.... the unit also refused to turn on the voice command mode. I tried to activate them but I only got an error message in mandarin, which translated meant function not available.Tomorrow it will go back to china...Soo a secret combo key to change language? Can't be true...I asked now the official quick store on AE:https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806525802714.htmlif I get a unit in English language and not in chinese...I keep you posted....First impressionspros:1) build quality is excellent2) the user interface is very sexy3) seems powerful and silent but did not play with it too much...cons (apart for the language cluster fuuu):1) the nozzle cable length is about 10-8mm SHORTER than my 861DW. WTF.2) if you press the wrong arrow button, the unit jumps immediately in an unwanted function... and I went to panic mode to turn it off...Sooo some learning curve is necessary to ride such a horse.PS: I am the only one who would like a 10cm/20cm longer nozzle cable length?

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 30, 2024, 01:47:48 am
content: WTF.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 30, 2024, 02:56:39 am
content: ok, I give up on buying it on Aliexpress chinesium store.I have now contacted unionrepair...https://www.unionrepair.com/quick-861-pro-lead-free-smart-hot-air-desoldering-station.htmllet's see.

author: shabaz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 30, 2024, 03:06:40 am
content: Interesting device, I could not see it on theQuick Global website, so it does sound like it may be a region-specific product, maybe sold by mistake : (I have the quite similar-looking TR1300A (same case shape with the ears,but with a monochrome displayEDIT just noticed it is color, but mostly just black text on white), I really like it, one of the best tool purchases for me for a while. I can imagine that the unit you have is also very high-performance, except for the voice language issue : (EDIT: Incidentally, regarding hose length/ease-of-use, I found it better when the hot air station was raised off the desk, it just curves better to reach the pre-heater. I used a speaker stand. Another nice benefit; it frees up some desk space, since in terms of size as well as performance, the unit is a beast..

author: jwehle
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: May 30, 2024, 04:52:10 am
content: Regarding region availability I'll note that TEquipment was happy to quote me a price.It seems clear given the manual available from Union Repair and the various short YouTube videos that there is a flavor that supports English.

author: shabaz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 31, 2024, 01:25:29 am
content: I was just thinking maybe it is only on specific country websites rather than the global one, if they have not got all-country localisation if it's a different product code per language. No idea.Anyway, to me at least, for sure it seems like a useful feature, a great idea. If the TR1300A had a serial interface (it sadly doesn't : ( I'd probably consider adding voice functionality myself! : ) As it is, I use a little desktop timer close by to see the time (so I don't have to look away too much); if the hot air tool could do an announcement of the elapsed time at specific intervals that could be quite neat too, if it were possible.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 31, 2024, 01:18:03 pm
content: There is now a youtube review in Spanish of the 861PRO, the guy says the voice commands in English.Unfortunately in the entire review I could not see any menus, to confirm the unit was indeed 100% in English.Now Union Repair replied to me telling the unit can be set in English language, I asked them further details.

author: KG7AMV
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: June 01, 2024, 05:26:31 pm
content: If it is the same quality of the TR1300A will be a hot seller if they get language figured out.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 03, 2024, 02:57:25 am
content: Why it is so hard?Still no 100% confirmation it is in English but it is promising..., so I just buy it (again) and hope for the best?

author: jwehle
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 03, 2024, 06:26:46 am
content: Do you have access to an android phone? If so, then you may be able to use the camera with google translate to read the menus in order to find and change the language setting (assuming it's not a hidden setting).Failing that the "sure thing" is probably to order it again from a different vendor who is willing to ensure the language is set correctly.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 03, 2024, 09:02:44 pm
content: Quote from: jwehle on June 03, 2024, 06:26:46 amThere is no real settings menu and its not in the manual. Every setting is multi keypresses or long keypresses.I suggested some random keys for OP to try out, but I guess they didn't work.

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 06, 2024, 02:48:28 am
content: Still no response from union repair.Currently I have to sell some deviceshttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/(from-us-to-x)-keysight-u1282a-used-10min-mint-$400/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fs-(us-to-xx)-tek-afg3252-like-new-single-owner-$3k/to get some cash to buy it, I had some unexpected payments...

author: Raziel92
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 10, 2024, 02:03:16 pm
content: Waiting for some English reviews, a closser look inside would be nice, im curious if it has SMPS or Linear power supply.

author: Raziel92
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 12, 2024, 03:56:24 pm
content: https://youtu.be/rApxC76Q2lg?si=Wz-5U_sGpDAiVY6JHere is a short video with shown internalsDoesnt look good, ill stick with my Sugon 8650

author: Zucca
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: June 12, 2024, 04:31:33 pm
content: Quote from: Raziel92 on June 12, 2024, 03:56:24 pmoh wow it has 4 presets! I like it!I think I will pass on the QUICK 861PRO as well.Currently at work I can't watch YT. What did you not like of the QUICK 861PRO internals?Z

author: Raziel92
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: June 12, 2024, 06:50:23 pm
content: Basically the SMPS, ofc i know that well designed and build SMPS is nothing wrong but with Jamicon capacitors it cant last for so long.Every piece of equipment in my service is powered by linear power supply except of digital oscilloscope, but all bench multimeters, power supplies, all other test equipment, soldering and desoldering stations all have classical power supply.

author: KG7AMV
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2024, 06:27:56 am
content: Quote from: Raziel92 on June 12, 2024, 03:56:24 pmHere is the TR1300A i been using it for about 2 years now no issues at all.

author: shabaz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 24, 2024, 12:11:17 am
content: Quote from: KG7AMV on August 02, 2024, 06:27:56 amVery good to see inside that. I've not used mine for as long as you, but I too am very happy with it. I think I would have liked the serial interface but the price is too steep for that model. Other than that, no complaints from my perspective anyway, it's a pleasure to use.

author: phantom
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: March 07, 2025, 10:26:37 am
content: hi guys! i live in italy..i've bought this 861pro selling my couple of sugon 8630pro...maybe i've done a mistake....one question: why are mi lights (leds) flickering while i'm using it? how can i fix it?Thanks