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author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2024, 10:05:04 am
content: I saw that JLCPCB was going to sell mechanical parts on their website, so I thought:Cool, I need some nuts and bolts for something anyway. Prices were reasonable, I was going to order from JLC anyway, let's add them to the basket.They cannot be shipped or ordered together. Shipping option for mechanical parts:DHL Express Worldwide 2-4 business daysGlobal Direct Line Saver 12-14 business daysDHL Express Priority (DDP) 2-4 business daysOk, for sure global direct line is going to be the cheapest. Here is how my basket looks like during checkout:Merchandise Total: 1.61Shipping Estimate: 13.46Customs duties & taxes: 3.17Grand Total: 18.24I don't think they are going to get too much business from me this way.Rant: Also EU strikes again, placing import duty on shipping cost.Also, DHL cost calculation, if you let those leeches handle import tax: Add 14.5 EUR administrative cost (for a damn automated computer software), calculate import duty on all these, then add VAT on top of this.

author: Jackster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2024, 10:22:41 am
content: £12 for a hand reel, shipped.The same handle here is around £25-30.

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2024, 10:55:09 am
content: Maybe it makes sense if you have to order a pallet full of parts. Or my shopping example of 40 bolts costing 1 cents each is a very bad example.They seem to have some 3D printer frames made from extruded Aluminium frames. The frames themselves are very cheap for the meters of alu they use. I wonder if they do it themselves or they buy it somewhere else. And if they do it themselves, than if they will offer custom cut, milled, tapped alu parts as a service, that could be very interesting.

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2024, 12:01:54 pm
content: Same with LCSC. They don't show shipping costs until after it's in the cart and they provide no indication of weight (or how their calc shipping) anywhere. For metal parts it's often much more than what you're paying for the items themselves.This is a big shame, otherwise their screws would be really nice and convenient.

author: exe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 14, 2024, 01:02:31 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on February 14, 2024, 10:05:04 amOh, I missed that, do you have a link?

author: tszaboo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2024, 01:09:06 pm
content: Quote from: exe on February 14, 2024, 01:02:31 pmSure, from our own gvmt:https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/en/customs/content/additional-customs-feesQuoteHow is tax on tax legal? Nobody knows.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2024, 10:04:18 pm
content: Yes they got rid of the combined shipping a while ago, I don't know why they leave everything together, maybe they are trying to add it back at some point.Shipping cost to Canada is $20 8 days or $26 with DHL.Its not great but, mcmaster charges $20-40 to ship the same items, and their part prices are going to be far higher.Its interesting that they've gone to the trouble to put their own branding on stuff:https://jlcmc.com/productdetail/C15/BCTC-S6-P-609ZZIf they can provide at least consistent quality bearings, even if a bit low, there is value to that.

author: Jackster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2024, 11:32:40 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on February 14, 2024, 10:04:18 pmIt is a logistical nightmare to do when you have warehouses/factories all over the place.Normally you go from the warehouse to shipping and the courier picks it up. With combined, you have an extra step of going from warehouse to shipping, to another shipping and then courier.All while waiting for 2 or more goods to arrive at the same location and find themselves together.Not only that, you could order 20KG of PCB and then a really light component? If shipped together, like in the same box, then that light component will be at risk of damage. So at best you are getting 2 packages in 1 consignment.And for what. Save the customer a few bucks? It costs more than the saving for the supplier. There is no gain for them.

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2024, 12:45:12 am
content: Quote from: Jackster on February 15, 2024, 11:32:40 pmYeah, so I don't know why they keep integrating it on the same checkout page. I guess just to make sure you know their other offers exist.Anyway, even though it is a nightmare, somehow aliexpress is able and willing to do it. I have no idea how they coordinate 5+ shipments from 5+ different suppliers into one packet.

author: Whales
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2024, 10:56:45 am
content: With Alix it probably works because the package merge ratio is higher. 5 or more packages domestic -> 1 package international, instead of 2 packages domestic -> 1 package international.Also everyone involved with Alix is probably more tolerant of bad and slow shipping. JLCPCB customers are more likely to keep their eyeballs glued to the tracking and days elapsed.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2024, 10:28:05 pm
content: Quote from: tszaboo on February 14, 2024, 01:09:06 pmBecause duty and tax aren’t the same thing. Yes, they’re both costs on the bottom line. But they’re not the same thing.Duty is essentially “artificial cost” added to disadvantage imported products, so as to advantage domestic ones.Tax is tax.

author: Jackster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 16, 2024, 11:04:34 pm
content: Quote from: thm_w on February 16, 2024, 12:45:12 amI think it works for them because they just combine it all into a single bag without care for what is in themThat and they do the first leg of logistics as well afaik.