I may be abusing odesk... - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: 8086
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 12:51:54 am
content: I'm sending messages to users who are trying to outsource their homework. I must have seen at least 5 so far. Maybe I should keep my nose out, but I can't help myself.I can't believe how brazen some of them are. One of them is a university student and has simply copied everything from his assignment except the university logo. I found the university in question within minutes. Maybe I should drop them an email?Ridiculous. What happened to earning your degree?

author: David_AVD
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 12:54:36 am
content: That's exactly why I don't rank degrees high on my importance list when interviewing people for a position.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:03:56 am
content: Quote from: 8086 on April 12, 2013, 12:51:54 amLaziness. It's always been around, you're just seeing it more now because the stupid dickheads broadcast it over the Internet.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:09:14 am
content: And if they really need to beg help online for some of the things I've seen them ask, the highest degree they'll ever achieve is 40° when they have a bad case of the flu.

author: 4to20Milliamps
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:09:23 am
content: It's society these days, cheating.....just like murder......is mainstream. I defy anyone to turn on the television and not see blood and guts of some form, a politician caught being a scumbag, or a ceo not ripping off a whole bunch of investors.Easy money, and there's a sucker born every minute.http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/ethicalperspectives/cheating.html

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:10:31 am
content: Quote from: 4to20Milliamps on April 12, 2013, 01:09:23 amThat's for sure! I, in fact, witnessed four murders myself on my way to school! Almost helped with a fifth but I was kind of tired.

author: BiOzZ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:12:42 am
content: im currently both a student and in the industryi say LET THEM CHEAT! ... this is not liberal arts or psychiatry if you dont do this your self you cant function in the work placeeven little things like the math and english all comes back and is useful in the work place! i have used most things i have learned and if i have not than i know i might ... even the infinite resistor grid!i only wish i did not turn my computers language to russian growing up and i would have learned english better!let them cheat there not just cheating the test there also cheating them selves!cheating only flys in history class and gym in highschool XPDIT: unless you count using your calculator or wolfram alpha as cheating than yeah i do that ... but if i dont have a computer or a smart phone as an electronic engineer in this day and age im doing something wrong!

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:14:45 am
content: Quote from: BiOzZ on April 12, 2013, 01:12:42 amTrue. They're not going to get far doing that. I'll still tell them they're dumbasses, though.

author: BiOzZ
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:19:03 am
content: Quote from: c4757p on April 12, 2013, 01:14:45 amgood because there retards and there shooting them selves in the foot!im not saying ignore them make sure they know there only hurting them selves and if they still choose to continue than its there own damn fault!

author: 4to20Milliamps
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:20:57 am
content: I have to deal with the types that cheated their way through school all the time, you get to do the work and they take all the credit.And NOOOOOO one fires them......ever.

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:22:23 am
content: Sounds like management to me.

author: 4to20Milliamps
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:25:21 am
content: Mostly middle management for some reason, must have to do with the whole "minion" thing

author: lemmegraphdat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:26:06 am
content: Future useless management idiot.

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:35:31 am
content: Quote from: 8086 on April 12, 2013, 12:51:54 amOnly 5? Luxury!!! The relatively low lazy bastard count is actually why I like this board.That said, I never quite understood that lazy mentality, but to each their own dysfunction I suppose.

author: Rufus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 03:21:21 am
content: Quote from: c4757p on April 12, 2013, 01:03:56 amBut also there are far far more people being pushed into university education so the average level of ability and probably enthusiasm and dedication has dropped significantly.

author: PeteInTexas
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 03:33:43 am
content: Quote from: BiOzZ on April 12, 2013, 01:12:42 ami say NOT!...its not the University that gets cheated or even the student, its the guy or gal at work that has to carry their weight that gets cheated. Sure, they will eventually get fired but until then, a lot of resources get wasted.

author: 8086
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 12:29:28 pm
content: So I had an interesting response from the person I mentioned in my original postAmazing! Seems like someone didn't like getting caught!My original message:

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 01:00:43 pm
content: QuoteGod, this is one class A moron. Couldn't even be bothered to edit the word "student" out of the project description. Or "Moodle" for god's sake.

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2013, 02:31:31 pm
content: Quote from: c4757p on April 12, 2013, 01:00:43 pmThe letter A would like to file a formal complaint. 'A' kindly request that you refrain from associating it with lazy morons as this "Anthony" displayed here. Such an association constitutes a gross insult to every letter in the alphabet. Thank you for your time.Furthermore:Quote*grin* Well, he still has a chance to get some points for formatting of the report. So we can only hope he finds nicely formatted stuff he can cut-n-paste.And that fixed price budget of $30. XD The sense of realism displayed here is awesome. This guy can go straight to middle management, no further training required!

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 13, 2013, 10:36:26 pm
content: I typed in that horrible yousendit url, holy crap, he didn't even ATTEMPT to hide the fact it was an assignment, not only that, but he left it only 6 days before it was to be handed in to post it on odesk - not a good idea since odesk can be slow and wouldn't give this person enough time to check over it.

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 14, 2013, 02:37:57 pm
content: I was searching for some information/help on how to do a matlab assignment for uni. Came across a forum post of a student asking how to do something (pretty much asking how to do the entire thing). Next post was my university professor who wrote a hilarious note

author: ftransform
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 14, 2013, 06:26:35 pm
content: At least their not switching papers in the middle of an exam in front of the whole class

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 14, 2013, 07:27:26 pm
content: I like your style 8086. Obvious troll is obviousAt school I've always seen people cheat. Whether it's in maths homework, in reading literature books, or whatever. At UOAS I've even seen students handing in work of fellow students (work that was due by months) with original names. Great way to get your name known.Those people never made it.A college would have a certain reputation to hold up, like dropout rates, average study time, etc. Most of engineering classes are quite small (40 1st year students EE), so in my experience most deadlines are very mild, and any statement 'you must hand in your internship report by xx or you wont get a grade for the last semester' were all just an attempt to keep things more or less structured. I've seen some colleges were they actually don't give you any points at all if you fail to pass a test or an assignment.Atleast it's different from using/stealing some one's work. It doesn't surprise me he didn't hide it's an assignment, because he probably barely understands the word amplifier and all the other jargon in the paragraphs.Here is the URL for the most complicated assignment ever:https://www.yousendit.com/dl?phi_action=app/orchestrateDownload&rurl=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.yousendit.com%252Ftransfer.php%253Faction%253Dbatch_download%2526batch_id%253DUVJpTG05bThHa044SjhUQwIt basically shouts. Design a PCB. Why they want Altium, not sure. Maybe some class mate uses it and a 3D PCB is all horny for them.

author: metalphreak
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 15, 2013, 01:36:08 pm
content: Quote from: ftransform on April 14, 2013, 06:26:35 pmHahaha same lecturer does 3 different versions of his tests. Exactly the same questions except he makes the values slightly different. Enough that you get a different answer, but not enough to change the difficulty of the question. More than a few people get caught out every time. At the end of the day, not learning yourself at university means you will just fail later on in life. Paying for an education and cheating your way to get that piece of paper is really just cheating yourself.

author: peter.mitchell
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 15, 2013, 02:26:55 pm
content: Quote from: metalphreak on April 15, 2013, 01:36:08 pmI dunno, it looks like a first class ticket to middle management.

author: mrflibble
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 15, 2013, 02:54:02 pm
content: Quote from: peter.mitchell on April 15, 2013, 02:26:55 pmWell he did say "fail later on in life".