Replacing my Rigol1054Z - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 10:30:38 am
content: This scope is very good for thr money, no worries about that..but I need of a scope that have higher sample rate and higher BW, 100Mhz are good, but I need to have more detailed waveforms, and with a pretty decent amount of FFT point will be better but no necessary, I work few times with modulations, but a rudimental spectrum analyzer in the scope is good;)I have more less 1000€ of budget..in this price range I was thinking about the HMO 1202 (I have only finded the 1212 and it cost more than my budget) and in future upgrade the BW, a Tektronix 3032 or a good lecroy, maybe a pretty old one, with ton of sample rate and BW (Lecroy LC584AL for 1K) I don' t really need of this amount of BW but I have foubded it for more less 1K, but I live in Italy, amd the seller is in the states..and shipping a piece of equipment like this for thousands of kilometers..eh (weight..) If I can spend less, better for me, the specs that I am looking for are at least 300Mhz BW and 2GS/s, don' t really need of decoding options..because I don't use ofthen these options, and for this the Rigol is enought. Last week I lost the opportunity to get a Tek 3032B for 400€ in perfect condition in my country..DOH. Will be better spending less than my budgetThanks you all, and sorry for another topic like this

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 10:33:48 am
content: I'd go for an older lecroywhich one? depends on what's available.. for all the math and analysis you can do...

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 10:58:49 am
content: Quote from: JPortici on December 27, 2017, 10:33:48 amHiThere are some Lecroy LC584AL for 1200€ on ebay, inc Vat and shipping, is a monster..overkill for me

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 11:42:51 am
content: Will you keep the DS154Z, ie. will you have both?

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 11:53:37 am
content: Quote from: Fungus on December 27, 2017, 11:42:51 amIf it will be worth Ill sell the Rigol, otherwise Ill keep both

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 12:02:27 pm
content: I like the HMO 1202, FWIW.With that budget you might also want to look at the Keysight 1000X range.

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 12:05:11 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on December 27, 2017, 12:02:27 pmNope, 100Mhz only

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 01:47:38 pm
content: The HMO1202 that I don't find anywere (think rebelled 1212 maybe) is an awesome scope, I love it, but is off budget..and is 100Mhz so in the future I have to spwnd 800$ more to get 300Mhz, thinking better, is off the way..but it remains an awesome scope

author: TopLoser
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 02:23:35 pm
content: PM sent about an HMO1232 in your budget range...

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 02:41:23 pm
content: I'd keep the DS1054Z. It won't fetch much used and it is handy to have an oscilloscope with a different feature set. IMHO a >=500MHz scope from Agilent, Lecroy or Keysight is a nice addition even if it is a big boat anchor. I think the ones from Lecroy offer best value for money (unless miss Anderson's fans go crazy) and there are lots of them for sale so you don't have to worry about getting an extra one very cheap for parts.

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 03:17:30 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 27, 2017, 02:41:23 pmmiss anderson :haha: that thread is awesome@NiaDebesis How much math and signal analysis can you do on the HMO? I have a lecroy boat anchor from the early 90's and because of that i'll get rid of it only when i can afford another lecroy

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 04:14:23 pm
content: Quote from: JPortici on December 27, 2017, 03:17:30 pmWhy is awesome?

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 04:16:35 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 27, 2017, 02:41:23 pmOn ebay there are plenty of AGILENT 54825N that doesn't power up, or doesn't respond or have crt issues

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 06:09:53 pm
content: Quote from: NiaDebesis on December 27, 2017, 04:16:35 pmIf you like to take on a repair project then this could be a good way to end up with a nice scope. Make sure to become familiar with the service manual and find out which versions are out there. IOW: do your homework. Every now and then I buy broken equipment and fix it. These endeavours always start with thourough research on known problems, available documentation and which version to avoid. The ones branded 'Agilent' are obviously newer. See the thread I started on a higher bandwidth version:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/agilent-54835a-scope-(4-channel-1ghz-4gss)-repair-uphack/msg1251605/

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 27, 2017, 07:24:34 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 27, 2017, 06:09:53 pmI am a bit scared of taking broken equipment..because my money aren't infinite, and I am scared to total destroy anything ahah..I have thinked a looots of time to keep broken equipment and to fix it, but eh..I am made of anxietyThis scope in my country will be very expensive, at least, if the sell it as broken, for example at 500$ + 200$~ I have to add the taxes of my country, that make it unworth, because at 1K I can easly found a LeCroy 584L in good conditionEven a AGILENT 54825N is at 800/900 in my country..and spending 1K for a thing that I have to fix, with my axienty..will give me a heartattack

author: JPortici
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2017, 01:49:17 am
content: Quote from: NiaDebesis on December 27, 2017, 04:14:23 pmwhy lecroy is awesome:i have a +25 years old scope. this is a modular scope with 2 modules, each module has two channels, 1 Meg points, 500 MHz, 1GS/s per channel (i can get to 2 GS/s in single shot, single channel via an adapter).i can have up to 8 traces on screen, the data can come from inputs or saved waveforms or math.math can be a total of four different functions within functions, the functions i can choose from is everything you can get from a scientific calculator and more.you also have ERES, segmented memory etc.pretty awesome IMHO. more recent (second hand) lecroys have more horsepower so you can get more wfm/s while still being able to do the same things or betterwhy that thread is awesome: pamela isbut maybe amusing is a better word?

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2017, 09:48:07 am
content: Illl go certainly for a good anchor, Ill chose a Lecroy LC534AL or a Tektronix 744a (founded one at 330 bucks inc shipping with a bubch of cracks 8n a local "store") cuz they are awesome scope and can be found at 700/800 in very good condition inc fees and shipping costs

author: NiaDebesis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2017, 07:48:46 pm
content: Quote from: nctnico on December 27, 2017, 06:09:53 pmHello, I am thinking to take a tektronix 744A for more less 300 euro, but it have some crack on the front and om the rear, but it pass the self test and the crt seems to be in pretty good conditionMy question is if the front and rear covers are available somewere on the netAnd if a call issue (If is out of call) is a problem, and if you know how much a recall of this thing will costI think that can be a bargain, at this price..