NEW Next Gen 2 Series Tektronix Oscilloscope - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 17, 2022, 11:27:41 pm
content: New Tek scope?https://tektronix.brandlive.com/Next-Gen-Tek/en

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 17, 2022, 11:50:01 pm
content: It looks very thin ...

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 12:19:27 am
content: Quote from: xrunner on May 17, 2022, 11:50:01 pmNo thinner than a Micsig.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 12:41:00 am
content: That doesn't really tell me anything useful. Wake me up when there are some published specs. Not that I could justify spending the money on a brand new Tek anyway.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 12:44:17 am
content: You know it's gonna be overpriced and the probes will cost even more than the 'scope.But hey, it's a tek.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 12:48:12 am
content: "Overpriced" is subjective. I've never paid more than about 600 bucks for a scope, but $20k is peanuts for a lot of companies that would be buying this stuff. Compared to the salary of even one engineer it's practically nothing. It's typical for probes to cost more than the scope even for cheap stuff, at least if you need anything remotely exotic.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 12:55:19 am
content: Quote from: james_s on May 18, 2022, 12:48:12 amThey already have new 3, 4, 5, and 6 series scopes in the 5 digit range.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 08:33:01 am
content: Added some processing to the image to pull contrast up....

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 09:13:36 am
content: Most 'scopes are just a single PCB these days so making them thin is a logical step.The power supply is probably external.Quote from: james_s on May 18, 2022, 12:48:12 amYeah, I know. I'm not their target demographic.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 09:46:30 am
content: Quote from: bd139 on May 18, 2022, 08:33:01 amGiven the weight and (in)flexible nature of many probes, how do Tek recommend that is attached to the bench?

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 10:31:16 am
content: Quote from: tggzzz on May 18, 2022, 09:46:30 amConsidering the TDS210 has a propensity to attempt to bugger off when you're using it, I would suggest that wedging a copy of TAoE X chapters under the front of the BNCs is a valid tested solution.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 10:59:38 am
content: Is the blue part a carrying handle?

author: xrunner
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 11:20:34 am
content: Thanks. Are those the BNC connectors across the bottom - five, or just more knobs? I had a thought (I know it's scary) that this is just the display and the main unit that you connect your signals to is a separate unit. This is just the user interface with the beautiful LCD screen that sits wherever you desire - light and easy to move around. Perhaps it's a wireless link to the main box that does all the heavy lifting.I am probably wrong though.Quote from: bd139 on May 18, 2022, 08:33:01 am

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 11:26:51 am
content: A little bit of processing.

author: mc172
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 11:46:57 am
content: Quote from: tggzzz on May 18, 2022, 09:46:30 amMore to the point, actually using the scope and pressing the buttons...

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 12:10:23 pm
content: Quote from: mc172 on May 18, 2022, 11:46:57 amDoesn't "next gen" imply gesture or voice control using ML?

author: salviador
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 12:52:12 pm
content: looks like a Micsig , probably with prohibitive costs

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 01:09:34 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on May 18, 2022, 12:10:23 pmThey called all their other new 3-6 series Next Gen too.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 02:18:21 pm
content: I wonder if it will have a faster processor than their series 3 and 4. In my evaluations in 2019 (and later re-confirmed by their FAE earlier this year), the GUI of these two series still take quite a penalty with anything else put on screen, such as FFT, decoding, etc.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 04:29:00 pm
content: Quote from: Fungus on May 18, 2022, 09:13:36 amIt would be idiotic to make it so thin that it requires an external power supply. This isn't a TV set that needs to appeal to aesthetically minded housewives, it's a tool for professional engineers.

author: Domitronic
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 07:19:38 pm
content: Quote from: rsjsouza on May 18, 2022, 02:18:21 pmThats still true. Even moving cursors with the knob is annoyingly slow at 4 Series. Really nice concept and functionality of the scope but somehow ruined by the lagging GUI and poor responsiveness.

author: Fungus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 07:36:09 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on May 18, 2022, 04:29:00 pmSo why make it thin? It's obviously going to be less stable that way.We'll see when it's released.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 07:54:08 pm
content: Quote from: tggzzz on May 18, 2022, 12:10:23 pmCan you imagine how annoying voice control would be in a lab with a bunch of other techs or a quite cubicle farm? Especially if you had several other scopes nearby.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 08:03:01 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on May 18, 2022, 07:54:08 pmI think it would be mostly offended at the language based on the labs I've worked in if it had that feature.As for the implications of "next gen", if we restrict the thinking to entry to mid-range Tek lines this roughly means the same miserable memory depth, a shiny new set of plastics, possibly a different MCU, a 20% price increase, a matching logo rebrand and hoards of people huffing and heading to Keysight, Rigol or Siglent depending on the ratio of arm length to pocket length they have.

author: tggzzz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 18, 2022, 08:28:56 pm
content: Quote from: james_s on May 18, 2022, 07:54:08 pmIt might be the equivalent of something I've always fantasised about doing. Come up behind somebody and say "format sea colon return yes return".