Ebay Gem - Page 1
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author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 10:16:31 am
content: Ebay scope of the day:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LeCroy-Wavemaster-Digital-Oscilloscope-was-Broken-1-/111877989911"*was* broken"? - Looks ok to me."I do not know if it works properly or not." - yeah, hard to tell.

author: Radio Tech
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 10:19:54 am
content: That is a steal for 550 bucks, shouldn't bust the bank

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 10:20:32 am
content: This one is in better nickhttp://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LeCroy-Wavepro-7100-1GHz-Digital-Oscilloscope-was-Broken-/111877990362

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 10:21:24 am
content: That'd make you cry if it was yours.

author: tomy983
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 10:23:20 am
content: Did Dave went hiking?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 10:26:20 am
content: And 20GS/s

author: AlxDroidDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 10:33:55 am
content: Who else is curious to know what is the story behind such destruction?OTOH, in both they seem to have removed the knobs (probably to sell on eBay as spares). I wonder what else they've stripped from these, specially from inside them.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 10:36:13 am
content: That they ended up like that is bad enough - but the money asked is crazy.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 11:25:22 am
content: It would appear that taking stuff apart may in fact be a frustrating task for some......

author: AlxDroidDev
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 12:01:09 pm
content: Quote from: Muttley Snickers on January 25, 2016, 11:25:22 amOr maybe he spent years designing and simulating a circuit, but when it was time to have the first prototype working, things didn't go as planned, and he did the sensible thing to do: blame it on the scope.Maybe I should just print these pics and stick them to my scope. It'll know what will happen to it if it ever gives me the readings that aren't what I expect.

author: prm5012
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 12:10:32 pm
content: This similar model looks a bit better!http://www.evansclarke.com.au/detail.asp?id=965242&catid=12&sortpref=

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 12:24:51 pm
content: My guess is they were faulty or surplus in the warehouse and someone dropped the pallet. Really a testament to those potentiometer shafts though.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 12:29:48 pm
content: Quote from: prm5012 on January 25, 2016, 12:10:32 pmYour second post again promoting this particular auction site may be frowned upon by some including those above.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 12:34:34 pm
content: Quote from: prm5012 on January 25, 2016, 12:10:32 pmPlease state that you represent this auction site, as per your previous post.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 02:16:11 pm
content: Hmmm... if I had time on my hands I might put in an offer for the second scope. It wouldn't be the first time I bought a scope with a smashed screen and some damage to the casing. A new TFT panel and some (retro look) shiny aluminium knobs will make it look a lot better

author: KD0CAC John
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 03:52:38 pm
content: Thats what happens when using UPS & just shipping label

author: artelse
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 06:14:58 pm
content: "Thank you.God bless you."

author: _Wim_
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 06:50:06 pm
content: Quote from: prm5012 on January 25, 2016, 12:10:32 pmbut the Ebay auction ships worldwide !

author: CM800
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 10:02:05 pm
content: I'd bet that the second one you posted Dave, could be fixed up.as long as the input hardware of a lecroy scope is fine, most of it can be replaced with other stuff if you can acquire the drivers (being PC based)Pity the first one's bottom board looks destroyed...EDIT:PLEASE buy the second one Dave, It would make a great teardown video... maybe see if you can resurrect parts of it even? It could prove interesting. Worst case, put it back on Ebay again.

author: CrashO
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 11:07:17 pm
content: Quote from: AlxDroidDev on January 25, 2016, 10:33:55 amFell off the back of a truck

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 25, 2016, 11:11:21 pm
content: Quote from: CrashO on January 25, 2016, 11:07:17 pmThat normally implies it will be free, these aren't but should be.

author: Cubdriver
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 12:27:46 am
content: Quote from: CrashO on January 25, 2016, 11:07:17 pmHow fast was the truck going at the time?-Pat

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 12:49:24 am
content: Quote from: Cubdriver on January 26, 2016, 12:27:46 am5 mph ..... backwards.And it didn't stop.

author: Muttley Snickers
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 01:17:19 am
content: Serial offender perhaps......

author: PTR_1275
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 01:19:16 am
content: Did anyone else notice in the second photo there is a pixelated patch? It looks like there was an asset label or something that they couldn't be arsed removing, so they pixelated it so you can't tell where they are from. Probably a dumpster dive, not sure if they are motivated or smart enough to strip for parts if they can't even remove a sticker

author: Cubdriver
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 02:31:57 am
content: I see they want $400 (AU $566) for a corroded, broken turbomolecular pump, too - I see at least one broken blade (void from missing blade visible at about 3:00 in the second pic, and what I'm guessing is the broken off bit is seen slightly to the left of and below the center of the third photo). At the very least it will need a new rotor and stator.http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Varian-TV-300HT-Macro-Torr-Pump-was-Broken-/291668572472?hash=item43e8cd3938:g:0N0AAOSw~gRVtWDsGood stuff there!-Pat

author: Monittosan
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 06:08:06 am
content: I passed on a Tek TDS7104 with a smashed screen and case for $105aud. It looked like it had been dropped square on its face and someone had stomped on the top of it. Surely this was a dumpster dive that was then resold

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 07:18:00 am
content: Quote from: Shock on January 25, 2016, 12:24:51 pmThat reminds me of a silly temporary job I had a few years back.I had to re-program a bunch of Dishwashers--there were different programs for each country,& this lot had slipped past with the wrong one.Halfway through the 1000 or so,I found that I'd left a screw out of one of the last 15,& was a bit concerned.Just then,I heard an almighty crash----the bloke on the forklift had knocked a stack over,mangling the ones I'd just completed,so I never had to "own up" to the missing screw!

author: prm5012
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 07:38:07 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 25, 2016, 12:34:34 pmApologies - my second only post. I was distracted by the irony of a very similar device in the sale at that point in time. BTW my interest and motivation in taking the time to post in the first place is in communicating awareness and opportunity to people who I would think would appreciate to know rather than not. There is no real worthwhile pecuniary interest on our part - I don't own the stuff (the Government does) - main motivation is I just see so much wastage and lost opportunity for people who have no way of otherwise knowing about what is very obscure and the cost of letting the market know is not justified or paid for by vendors. A forum such as this is an effective conduit for that purpose. I am aware other agent(s) leave spectrum analysers etc crammed in pallets out in the weather in a paddock shared with cars and trucks for sale.BTW I have seen authorities smash oscilloscopes with mallets because they had a "data" button on the front panel. Maybe that happened here? (joking).I hereby declare my interest as Agent for the Seller.Cheers P.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 10:00:31 am
content: Quote from: prm5012 on January 26, 2016, 07:38:07 amIt is indeed. You are most welcome to post your auctions here that have test gear or other related stuff.Shame they seem to be pickup only?Quote

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 10:03:00 am
content: Quote from: TCWilliamson on January 25, 2016, 10:02:05 pmNot at AU$1050The ad income from the video + the pittance I'd get on ebay won't pay that back, not even close.Even if I got it for free, it's still AU$340 postage

author: pickle9000
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2016, 10:34:11 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 26, 2016, 10:03:00 amTeardown videos are better when "pouring" is not involved.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2016, 08:21:03 pm
content: Hey look. A lecroy in my preferred state.

author: hibone
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2016, 10:51:34 pm
content: Well he even states: "God Bless You".Maybe he expects someone to purchase it out of pity...Anyway, it seems it hosts a micro atx board inside, thus maybe there's an hard disk.With a "bit" of luck you could ferret some infos out of samsung from one of those...Fat chance...

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2016, 06:33:43 am
content: Quote from: hibone on January 28, 2016, 10:51:34 pmThese scopes come with a standard ATX intel mainboard. They are still supported by LeCroy and parts are still available.But frankly, I'd probably not even take them for free. The first one (WaveMaster) is pretty much not repairable as the large dent in the front bottom edge means that its front end section will have been smashed. The second one (WavePro) will most certainly have a cracked mainboard (which is pretty cheap to replace, though, those intel boards often go for a few bucks), and the large slit on the side very likely means that a lot of the internals (i.e. display controller board, the 4port gbit ethernet controller that connects the acquisition modules to the PCI bus, the DVO adapter) will have been smashed as well.It also looks that both scopes have been opened (probably before getting smashed) and parts removed, so they might not even contain all the parts (and the four 10GSa/s ADC modules are painfully expensive to replace if missing!). From the photos it also looks like they have spend some time exposed to the elements (i.e. rain) as I'm sure I can see beginning corrosion. I'd say it's highly unlikely that they have been in working condition before getting smashed, these are most certainly dumpster diving finds.

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2016, 09:52:38 am
content: I wonder if they rattle when you shake them!?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 29, 2016, 09:58:01 am
content: Quote from: free_electron on January 28, 2016, 08:21:03 pmFanboy wrath coming your way

author: hibone
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2016, 11:40:57 am
content: Quote from: Wuerstchenhund on January 29, 2016, 06:33:43 amThat's some remote analysis...Amazing!Well, the korean sir did all the tear-it-apart stuff beforehand...Quote from: EEVblog on January 29, 2016, 09:58:01 amWell, instruments in the thousands $ range used as a spare tyre are an offence to science, and to hard earned money...

author: NilByMouth
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2016, 01:18:56 pm
content: Quote from: free_electron on January 28, 2016, 08:21:03 pmWe know you don't mean that. No test equipment should ever be treated like this.

author: Brumby
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 29, 2016, 01:31:49 pm
content: Quote from: NilByMouth on January 29, 2016, 01:18:56 pmYou'veneverfelt like throwing some piece of temperamental test gear out the window?

author: macboy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2016, 02:33:41 pm
content: Quote from: Wuerstchenhund on January 29, 2016, 06:33:43 amDumpster finds for sure, but I would wager that they were in perfect working condition before whatever military that owned them decided topercussively decommissionthem.

author: StuUK
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2016, 03:22:00 pm
content: Quote from: PTR_1275 on January 26, 2016, 01:19:16 amThey probably dropped it whilst legging it from the rossers.....

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2016, 03:43:49 pm
content: Quote from: Brumby on January 29, 2016, 01:31:49 pmI have!My most recent mobile phone did receive a flying lesson BTW!

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 02, 2016, 07:13:24 pm
content: Fell off the back of a truck perhaps? ;-)

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 02, 2016, 07:47:25 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on February 02, 2016, 07:13:24 pmNo, it didn't work when I needed it. Fortunately it didn't damage the floor when I threw it. Needless to say the phone looked just like the scopes in the first postI decided not to buy a new mobile phone because paying 200 euro for making 4 phone calls in 3 years is rather expensive.

author: station240
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 10, 2016, 05:42:29 pm
content: Trying to decide if thrown into a dumpster, or a forklift ran into the pallet they were stored on.Some of those dents in the side are about right for a small forklift tyne.