Is this KNIPEX 97 33 02 Crimp Tool the best out there? - Page 1
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author: bsodmike
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2020, 07:50:59 pm
content: Hi all,Any thoughts on this crimp tool by Knipex, it has dies that can be changed.https://export.farnell.com/knipex/97-33-02/multicrimp-pliers-charger-w-5/dp/1560900I'm looking for an extremely high quality crimp tool that can handle automotive crimp bits (Ring, spade, splice etc.) and Dupont crimp terminals for PCB type housing/pin-outs.This would cost me $545 to import through my Farnell agent, thoughts?Thanks, M.

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2020, 08:50:17 pm
content: I do not know if it is the best, but Knipex and their sister firm Rennsteig make an even nicercrimp system plierswhich Tyco/AMP relabels and sells as one of their manual crimpers. I was talking to an AMP mechanical engineers about a compatible die for one of their contacts, and I could almost hear him swoon when he talked about the tool. The only criticism I have of it is that the dies for it can be rather expensive.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 15, 2020, 09:17:33 pm
content: This tool costs about $200. Even without any agents it's significantly overpriced at farnell. You cannot crimp dupont with this, this tool is for larger connectors.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 15, 2020, 09:20:45 pm
content: You could order it herehttps://www.amazon.de/-/en/97-33-02-MultiCrimp%C2%AE-multi-component/dp/B00203M5YO/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=MultiCrimp&qid=1602796760&sr=8-3and use some shipping forwarder. Or order at some other place which ships to Sri Lanka.

author: syau
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 15, 2020, 11:38:06 pm
content: Quote from: bsodmike on October 15, 2020, 07:50:59 pmI am using Pressmasterhttps://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/crimp-tools/4929595/which has large variety of dies to choose from. Excellent build quality.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 12:10:24 am
content: Quote from: bsodmike on October 15, 2020, 07:50:59 pmKnipex doesn’t have any crimping tool for DuPont pins. You might be able to do it (imperfectly) with the D-sub die, but for the price of that die, you’d do far, far better to get a cheap tool that’s actually designed for those pins. Note that of the hundreds of cheap crimp tools for sale on eBay, Aliexpress, Amazon, etc that are advertised for DuPont pins,literally only twoare actually correct. See my big thread on this topic here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/affordable-crimp-tools-for-small-connectors-(dupont-etc-)/

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 07:50:23 am
content: Quote from: wraper on October 15, 2020, 09:17:33 pmIt will crimp all sizes of contacts, and if you find one it does not and have the money, I bet Knipex will make a custom die for you. TE calls it the Ergocrimp tool accepting "Standard Die Envelope" (SDE) dies.Here is a diefor an automotive MQS contact accepting 0.08–0.22mm^2 wires. Is that small enough for you? The big challenge with this tool is probably the cost of the interchangeable dies after connector maker's mark up. The other day, I thought I saw this MQS die for around 200 euros, or it might have been the die for the next larger range of wire sizes.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 08:32:16 am
content: MQS contacts have essentially the same crimp profile as DuPont contacts, so if they make an MQS die, then it’d almost certainly work well.What wouldn’t make any sense is to have a custom die made. For that kind of money, you’d just buy a first-party tool made for those contacts (or that is compatible), like the TE AMPMODU MOD IV crimper I have: it’s not made for DuPont pins, but it worksperfectlyfor them. (I’ve used it for MQS contacts, and it did those admirably, too.)

author: bsodmike
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 08:51:48 am
content: Hi again,Thanks for all the advice and comments. Just to say I found this:https://export.farnell.com/rennsteig/624-000-3/crimp-tool-2c-grip-burnish-0-8/dp/2517588?st=2517588Which isn't too expensive and has a nice range of dies. I've gone for this die:https://export.farnell.com/rennsteig/624-060-3-0/die-set-crimp-system-plier/dp/2518362?ost=2518362If you click on "624 Series" in the link above, you can see the rest of the dies. Seems this die is compatible with Dupont/D-sub:https://export.farnell.com/rennsteig/624-674-3-0/die-set-crimp-system-plier/dp/2518382?ost=624+674+3For crimping Dupont connectors, I bought this off Farnell a while back: Multicomp PRO HT-225Dhttps://export.farnell.com/multicomp/ht-225d/crimp-tool-ratchet-30-18awg/dp/1624832?ost=1624832

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 09:18:10 am
content: Quote from: tooki on October 16, 2020, 08:32:16 amOh, that is good to know. I have a MOD IV manual crimper that we bought for a project about twenty years ago.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 12:32:14 pm
content: Quote from: bsodmike on October 16, 2020, 08:51:48 amWay more expensive than knipex multicrimp when you consider cost of the dies.QuoteNo it isn't.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 12:41:50 pm
content: Quote from: jfiresto on October 16, 2020, 07:50:23 amI have this tool and it will not.QuoteIf you pay them $100k so they even bother? It's easier to order at some shop which specializes on making custom tools. Not that it's financially viable anyway.QuoteIt has nothing to do with TE nor it uses compatible dies.

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 01:23:48 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on October 16, 2020, 12:41:50 pmItanddoare carrying a lot of water there.Isthis (283K pdf)not equivalent to your Knipex crimper? If it is not, how is it different?

author: bsodmike
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 01:29:11 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on October 16, 2020, 12:32:14 pmWhy do you say that, check the datasheet for that die, the crimped connector looks like a D-sub pin.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 02:08:15 pm
content: Quote from: bsodmike on October 16, 2020, 01:29:11 pmDie in question is for 0.5 mm2wire minimum. And it's not for D-SUB. It has wrong description saying it's for 30AWG and thicker. Check the datasheet yourself.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 02:15:01 pm
content: Quote from: jfiresto on October 16, 2020, 01:23:48 pm

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 02:31:34 pm
content: Ahhh, I think you were responding to the message before mine, message #1.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 02:37:09 pm
content: Quote from: jfiresto on October 16, 2020, 02:31:34 pmYes, I responded to OP. Equivalent from knipex to that TE is this, most likely the same tool from the same factory.https://www.omobihost.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=691419Quote from: jfiresto on October 15, 2020, 08:50:17 pmI would not say nicer than multicrimp. Depends on your use case, it's like comparing apples vs oranges. Multicrimp allows to exchange dies rapidly so you basically have 5 crimpers at hand. Another one needs way more time and effort to change the dies.

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 02:43:28 pm
content: Thank you. Assuming I have become sufficiently unconfused, a better D-Sub die for that one (Knipex 97 43 05) and the Ergocrimp might beKnipex 97 49 24orRennsteig 624 667 3 0.EDIT: Has anyone ordered Rennsteig tools and dies fromTGS?

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 03:26:06 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on October 16, 2020, 02:37:09 pmA reviewer on Amazon and owner of a Multicrimp shares your opinion and got the advantages of both by buying four morecrimping frames.I guess he has room and now has an impressive stack of crimper carry cases or row of crimpers.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 16, 2020, 06:56:40 pm
content: Quote from: bsodmike on October 16, 2020, 08:51:48 amIt is not. (I guess you didn’t read the thread I linked to, which explains what to look for.)Anyway, looking at the datasheet, it looks like the die above it, model 624 053 3 0, could be correct. The two smaller wire sizes work, and above all, it has the necessary round insulation crimp.Quote from: bsodmike on October 16, 2020, 08:51:48 amThat’s not the right tool. As explained in my linked thread, the m-shape insulation crimp is not correct for DuPont contacts, causing the insulation crimp to get mangled. DuPont contacts require the aforementioned round insulation crimp.

author: bsodmike
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2020, 11:07:57 am
content: Quote from: wraper on October 16, 2020, 02:08:15 pmWhat about this onehttps://export.farnell.com/rennsteig/624-667-3-0/die-set-crimp-system-plier/dp/2518383?ost=rennsteig+624+667+3+0Thanks to jfiresto

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2020, 12:23:28 pm
content: Quote from: bsodmike on October 17, 2020, 11:07:57 amI would test it if I had some DuPont contacts.

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2020, 12:40:21 pm
content: Aretheseequivalent to "DuPont contacts"? Or AMP MODU IV? I find "DuPont connector" as suggestive as "Molex connector": there are so many, many of them.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: October 17, 2020, 01:02:41 pm
content: Quote from: jfiresto on October 17, 2020, 12:40:21 pmNo, and they need different crimping die. Also AMP MODU IV is different from DuPont.AMP MODU IVDuPont

author: SparkyFX
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 17, 2020, 01:18:35 pm
content: Quote from: bsodmike on October 15, 2020, 07:50:59 pmI own that one (and the 5 inserts, for one insert there are two versions 97 39 13 ["A"]), and it is good for what it is, but there is no die available for automotive connectors that i know of or would recommend.Actually "automotive" is all over the place, there are dozens of sizes and variants which pretty much require "their" special shaped crimp tool and as wiring harness manufacturers automated the process, manual tools are even more expensive as they are probably not using the same kind of insert. If you want to crimp according to specification you got to go with the contact manufacturer's tool.Check this thread for what to watch out for when crimping DuPont-contacts:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/affordable-crimp-tools-for-small-connectors-(dupont-etc-)/

author: bsodmike
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2020, 04:19:39 am
content: Quote from: jfiresto on October 17, 2020, 12:40:21 pmI found this to be an excellent resource to understand the various types of connectors out there and many trying to masquerade as "DuPont" connectors (at least, the real Amphenol type).http://tech.mattmillman.com/info/crimpconnectors/Also checkout tooki's various comments inhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/affordable-crimp-tools-for-small-connectors-(dupont-etc-)/as he really going into detail on which tools to get. For Dupont (Mini-PV) connectors he's recommending SN-4228B off AliExpress.

author: jfiresto
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 18, 2020, 03:21:39 pm
content: Thank you for the link to Matt Millman's crimping contacts and tools survey: it has cleared up a lot of questions and tempts me to buy the Molex Micro-fit die I have been considering for a while. There are worse sins in life than collecting good tools. Right?

author: bsodmike
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 19, 2020, 01:15:48 am
content: Haha indeed

author: exmadscientist
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 19, 2020, 06:57:13 am
content: Quote from: bsodmike on October 18, 2020, 04:19:39 amThat's a great link, but apart from a passing reference to PIDG, it doesn't cover one of the most common types of connector, the ring/spade/fork/splice/etc connector, which TE (formerly AMP) markets as "PIDG", "Pre-Insulated Diamond Grip". (Of course, they're not the only manufacturer of these things.)If you need a good crimper for these things, I'd like to give a shoutout to the TE 59824-1 TETRA-CRIMP, which can handle all common PIDG terminals as well as genuine FASTON receptacles (females), though not the FASTON tabs. Certain other manufacturers make you buy a different tool for each terminal shape (really!), but this one does them all, does it well, and does it easily enough that even a crimping boor like me can get great results. And it's even UL approved for all of the above, if that sort of thing matters to you.Its only real downside is that, just like every other approved and guaranteed crimp tool, it's expensive at around US$320 from the usual suspects.

author: bsodmike
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 19, 2020, 07:27:34 am
content: Quote from: exmadscientist on October 19, 2020, 06:57:13 amJust to point out, this Rennsteig die is compatible with the above mentioned "ring/spade/fork/splice/etc connector"."Crimp Tool Die, 0.5mm² to 6mm², 20-10AWG Insulated Terminals / Connectors (Red, Blue, Yellow)"https://export.farnell.com/rennsteig/624-060-3-0/die-set-crimp-system-plier/dp/2518362?st=624%20060%203%200Here's the tool body:https://export.farnell.com/rennsteig/624-000-3/crimp-tool-2c-grip-burnish-0-8/dp/2517588?st=624%20000%203Both come to ~US$210.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 19, 2020, 10:58:07 am
content: Quote from: exmadscientist on October 19, 2020, 06:57:13 amThat’s because that page isn’t attempting to be a survey of all types of crimp connections.The page title does say: COMMON WIRE-TO-BOARD, WIRE-TO-WIRE CONNECTORS, AND CRIMP TOOLS. (Sorry, I’m on my phone, not gonna retype to de-scream the all caps. :p )The focus is clearly really on wire to board, and even then really only on smaller ones. PIDG and similar are far afield of what that page is about. (Insulated terminals are also generally much less fussy about the tool than small wire to board connectors.)But honestly, I feel there is a huge need for a hobbyist-friendly cross-reference database of contacts, housings, tools, etc. of all sizes. Crimping is a minefield, and I think it’d be hugely useful to know not only what cheap tools work, but also what quality tools work for other contacts (the way that I use an AMPMODU crimper for DuPont and KK254 and clones thereof).

author: appoli13
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: September 09, 2021, 06:33:36 pm
content: Hi,Newbie here - long time listener, first time caller.Apologies for posting on a thread that’s a bit stagnant, but I think I may have come across some pertinent information so I figured I would post it. either spread the info and/or have it fact-checked:I was looking for a crimper that is suitable for DuPont connectors (and ideally Mollex, etc etc), specifically for one from Knipex as I’m a big fan or some other nice, but hopefully not too expensive, manufacturer. It seemed like most of their crimpers aren’t made for those ferrules (right word? I forget) so I did a search and found this post - it & the others referenced at the beginning were a great help!After digging some more, however, I believe I may have come across a couple Knipex models that *are* suitable for DuPont, etc. I did some googling to make sure there haven’t been posts about this tool before (found one on a German forum, possibly a new tool from Knipex?) and here we are.The following are the tool numbers, one is for 0.1-2.5mm wires and the other 0.5-6.0mm I believe:97 52 34 (0.1-2.5mm, this is the first tool I came across and looked at more thoroughly. Seems to have the right features on it’s die)97 52 35 (0.5-6.0mm, the item number sequence would fit it being of the same variety/style just larger)Links for the 97 52 30:https://www.knipex.com/products/crimping-pliers/knipex-preciforce-crimping-pliers/knipex-preciforcecrimping-pliers/975234https://www.amazon.com/97-52-34-PreciForce-non-insulated/dp/B000ZECEOQ/ref=pd_aw_di_ci_mcx_2l_mi_ca_mcx_picks_views_17?pd_rd_w=DCI1Q&pf_rd_p=3fe70698-0cfc-4664-ada9-f60598343b42&pf_rd_r=S2TZY2QGGNX26TJS2K7X&pd_rd_r=871fffc3-e2e7-42c8-b2da-396b21a3e8aa&pd_rd_wg=LrVM5&pd_rd_i=B000ZECEOQAs with most knipex tools it’s not cheap, but at $155 on Amazon & $140 on chad’s toolbox it isn’t ‘horrible’ (aka as expensive as the other crimpers in that product line & below $150…!)Anyway, I am not sure if I’m going to buy it yet (been using regular pliers + my linesman pliers that have a crimping accessory so not a total necessity), but if I end up doing so I def would like to know if others think it fits the task. And bonus maybe this will help some other readersCheers! 🙂

author: SteveyG
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 10, 2021, 07:51:36 am
content: I use the Harwin M20 Z20-320 crimper, which is similar form factor to the older style Molex crimpers. Harwin M20 appears to be interchangeable with these "dupont" connectors.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 10, 2021, 08:35:13 am
content: Quote from: appoli13 on September 09, 2021, 06:33:36 pmCompletely unsuitable for Dupont. Crimping die should look like this:

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 10, 2021, 08:47:35 am
content: Cheap IWISS SN-025 seems to have a proper die.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2021, 07:37:10 pm
content: Quote from: SteveyG on September 10, 2021, 07:51:36 amYep, that model is mentioned on Matt Millman’s page linked earlier.

author: armandine2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2021, 10:31:50 pm
content: This type of thread is quite like a shop window to me, tools have appeal and will capture your desire to own them - even without that much real knowledge of how they in fact fully accomplish their prescribed work.Common questions asked in the format of "what is the best tool?"are often replied with "well, what do you want to do with this "hypothetically" best tool. The question isn't answered because it is implicit in the question: what are the jobs I can do with this best tool?Back to the Crimp Connector and crimp tool - we see the tool and the job are intrinsically (is that the right word) linked. I once bought a beautiful looking stapler whose sole acceptable staple was no longer produced or readily available to buy. The quest to buy staples for it is not without appeal - but the stapler remains unused.The "figure and ground" of the situation should be borne in mind.Edited for grammar

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 14, 2021, 07:22:58 am
content: Quote from: wraper on October 17, 2020, 01:02:41 pmI somehow missed this reply way back when it was posted.FYI, while DuPont and AMPMODU are indeed not the same, I can speak from about a year of experience now that a genuine AMPMODU MOD IV crimp tool works quite well for DuPont terminals. It’s not up to military standards I’m sure, but I’ve made hundreds of crimps with it using Chinese DuPont contacts (as well as Molex KK254-type contacts).Most MOD IV contacts actually have the offset insulation wings (unlike the example in the photo above, which has the flat insulation wings; no idea why AMP used both styles in one series), so the tool is designed with the circular insulation die that works for both.The housings are completely different for DuPont and AMPMODU. The closest to DuPont from a western manufacturer are the Mini-PV series, but the tolerances are different and so Mini-PV parts and Chinese DuPont parts don’t always fit.My suspicion is that the Chinese DuPont clones are actually clones of JST HE/HF series, with the contacts having the mating half copied from HE/HF, but the insulation crimp from Mini-PV…

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 14, 2021, 09:41:59 am
content: Crimp tools are also largely depending on how many crimps you have to do.For these kind of small terminals and low quantity crimping, I got these Engineer Crimp Tools from Japan.They work very well and they are very stiff and precise.Model PA-091.0 mm to 1.9 mmModel PA-201.6 mm to 2.3 mm

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 14, 2021, 10:27:07 am
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on September 14, 2021, 09:41:59 amI have PA-09 and it's not a good tool. I needed to file ends of the jaws so they can close tighter. Before that, most of the crimps it made were a loose garbage from which often I could easily pull the wire out. Secondly crimps often get stuck in the jaws (which worsened after modifying it to close tighter), so it's hard to remove them. Thirdly, instead of blackening jaws are covered with a crappy paint which comes off in pieces. First it was only crimp contamination with tiny paint particles, then is started coming off from the sides after being stored with some other tools in the toolbox. IMHO it's an overpriced and overvalued garbage.

author: armandine2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 14, 2021, 12:06:46 pm
content: Thanks to Wraper's amazon.de linkI can today post a picture - not sure if it helps

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 14, 2021, 04:34:07 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on September 14, 2021, 10:27:07 amIt almost seems we are talking about two different tools.Maybe you got a bad batch.I am very happy with these tools from Japan, especially for the small pitch terminals.Another company that mainly makes crimping tools is Rennsteig in Germany.https://www.rennsteig.com/en/They belong to Knipex but have a much wider range.Also, if one has the need for a special die they make custom dies for reasonable prices.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 14, 2021, 05:27:50 pm
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on September 14, 2021, 04:34:07 pmCrimps for sure looked good without modification, but they were not good crimps. Unless you try to pull the wire, especially without insulation crimped, you won't know your crimps are bad. Even if it was a bad batch, my 3rd point stands. No decent tool should be covered with black paint instead of blackening. Funnily the claw that keeps it in closed position is actually blackened when jaws are what needs it the most.

author: HighVoltage
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 14, 2021, 06:57:51 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on September 14, 2021, 05:27:50 pmI think it largely also depends on the type of terminals that one needs to crimp.Maybe I got lucky to have only crimped terminals that fit this tool.I do agree in the paint!Also, one complaint I have with almost all crimping tools including this one, the printing (silkscreen) is always on the wrong side for right handed people. What are these designers thinking?

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2021, 06:46:14 am
content: Quote from: wraper on September 14, 2021, 05:27:50 pmOther than the ones for insulated terminals, I’ve never seen a top-quality crimp tool where the jaws themselves (that is, the inside surfaces that actually touch the terminal) are blackened. Instead, they’re polished to a bright mirror shine.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 15, 2021, 06:48:38 am
content: Quote from: HighVoltage on September 14, 2021, 06:57:51 pmHuh? When you hold it in your right hand, the printing faces you.What I don’t understand is why they don’t simply print it onbothsides, since lefties aren’t exactly rare.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 15, 2021, 07:46:45 am
content: Quote from: tooki on September 15, 2021, 06:46:14 amWell, inside surfaces may be not blackened, but jaw outside is. Though Pressmaster and Knipex crimpers are blackened both inside and outside. Engineer crimper is covered with black paint both inside the jaws and outside.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 16, 2021, 10:27:26 pm
content: While I, too, have never seen a top quality crimper that used paint, the quality of the jaw’s working surfaces matters a great deal more than the surface finish of nonfunctional areas.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 17, 2021, 12:07:39 pm
content: Quote from: tooki on September 16, 2021, 10:27:26 pmThe issue is that functional areas are covered with paint too. Therefore you get paint contamination on the crimps.

author: tooki
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 17, 2021, 12:45:51 pm
content: Quote from: wraper on September 17, 2021, 12:07:39 pmOH! Sorry, I misread. Yeah that’s terrible. The only “crimper” I’ve ever seen painted jaws on was a $5 one I got from Lidl because it came with the big assortment of terminals I wanted.

author: armandine2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 17, 2021, 06:32:56 pm
content: Re Lidl - I was in there today and saw an assortment of long reach pliers and wire cutters - they were too "spongy" for my liking, not that they're high on my shopping list.

author: armandine2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2021, 10:24:00 am
content: The Hozan P-707 came today - The IWISS copy wasn't as available, for me.

author: armandine2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 18, 2021, 01:08:17 pm
content: Confirmation of the electrician credentials of the the Knipex multicrimpapologies if this has already been uploaded

author: armandine2
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: September 19, 2021, 10:47:58 am
content: The electrician on the viewer's left appears to be left handed - and presumably can insert the dies to suit his left handed operation.