Star Trek Continues - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 26, 2013, 11:08:20 pm
content: For me, Star Trek inspired the technical/electrical side of me when I was a kid. I grew up watching the original series as well as The Next Generation, never really thought too much of the other spin-offs.Anyhow if you missed it, there is a small group, a few notable ones, making a few more episodes of the original series.http://www.startrekcontinues.com/episodes/#.UmgexZyJBgoHave made their pilot show: (decent, pretty true to the original series)And now have a kickstarter to make more:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/125377036/star-trek-continues-webseries

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2013, 05:55:19 am
content: Yeah, the original show wasn't known for it's superb acting either, but they did get better. These guys did what they could with next to nothing, I for one hope they do great.

author: Psi
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2013, 06:32:15 am
content: Miles better than most of the fan shows you see.

author: Jon Chandler
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2013, 08:27:56 am
content: I was a bit disappointed the Spock did little more than say "unknown" several times.....

author: lemmegraphdat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2013, 03:39:12 pm
content: Maybe have the red shirt guy fall over for no apparent reason and everybody just ignore it.

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 27, 2013, 11:19:12 pm
content: It got kicked, some generous sole backed $10,000 today!Woohoo for people with lots of spare cash

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 12:16:37 pm
content: There can't be too many die-hard Star Trek geeks around these parts. My signature line has yet to elicit a response in kind.

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 12:47:31 pm
content: Quote from: GKTlhingan quv datichdi' seng yighuh

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 01:00:42 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on October 28, 2013, 12:47:31 pmbIjatlh 'e' yImev , pujwI'!

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 08:17:54 pm
content: mu' qutlh, tob may'Daq

author: AG6QR
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 09:02:28 pm
content: Quote from: Pippy on October 27, 2013, 01:06:36 amThe original series acting was quite hammy as well. The original series is available on Netflix these days, so I've recently been watching many episodes, some for the first time since my pre-teen years. I was a big fan during the early 1970s when the show was in syndication every day after school, around my fourth or fifth grade year. I hadn't watched much since then.The things I notice now, which I didn't notice back then, are the overacting, and especially the overdramatic cinematography, lighting, and posing. For example, the way the lead characters so often pose in formation around the captain's chair for the closing scene, not facing each other. Or the heavy use of soft focus effects on women (see especially Joan Collins in "City on the Edge of Forever").I really like the way the new series has the sound effects and set design just like the old one. The acting is roughly similar, as well. The lighting and cinematography isn't quite what the old one was, though.But for me, the appeal of the original series is in the memories it brings back, and the ability to see the old episodes once again, seeing what I remember and what I had forgotten over time. No continuation series, no matter how good, will have that same draw for me.

author: Dongulus
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 28, 2013, 11:03:12 pm
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on October 28, 2013, 08:17:54 pmLook I can do it too!nqewr' qirehep'rej fdufrpw[q' idsos 'hqwdsoh' [qw ;...okay I lied.Star Trek is a cornerstone of geekdom that I, regretfully, haven't been able to muster up interest for. After the first of the new Star Trek movies I wanted to give the original series a shot. I put forth an honest try, but I really couldn't get into it after watching maybe 12 episodes. Even though I don't really care for the original series, I can appreciate it for what it accomplished. Anytime someone is the first to break ground in a new area, there are always successes and failures, but either way it's still fascinating to follow the creative decisions made when the rules have not yet been written.For reference, I don't think the new Star Trek movies are very good. I find it funny that my generation has such a fascination with media that a couple of decades ago might have gotten them beaten up by the popular kids. It's now the hip thing to pretend to be in to geeky things without any actual time investment. One of the problems I have with the new Star Trek movies is that they too easily offer the satisfaction of feeling like a Trekkie by cramming in as many references from the original series that anyone who ingests any amount of general pop culture will have heard. Because of this, I often admire people like the fans in this video who express genuine reverence for Star Trek or any other aspects of nerd culture.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 03:03:24 am
content: Quote from: grumpydoc on October 28, 2013, 08:17:54 pmThat one isn't decipherable.

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 03:39:03 am
content: Quote from: GK on October 29, 2013, 03:03:24 ama cat in battle, cheap wordsI'll ace any trivia quiz you bring onI'm fluent in JavaScript as well as Klingon(toH, tlhIngan mughmeH ghun vItu'laH)

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 03:42:01 am
content: Quote from: rolycat on October 29, 2013, 03:39:03 amLOL. Which dictionary are you using?

author: rolycat
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 03:46:22 am
content: Quote from: GK on October 29, 2013, 03:42:01 amhttp://www.bing.com/translator

author: AlfBaz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 05:46:44 am
content: Quote from: Dongulus on October 28, 2013, 11:03:12 pmI can't get enough of them and happen to think they're the best of the lotWhat might be telling in my taste is that the original series did nothing for me (unlike lost in space) the series I liked a lot was the picard/data ones.Having said that I thoroughly enjoyed the movies starring the original cast

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 29, 2013, 08:14:27 am
content: Quote from: rolycat on October 29, 2013, 03:46:22 amYes, as you've now discovered beyond a few phrases I'm not exactly fluent in Klingon - I did at least recognise "your mother has a smooth forehead" - apparently the Bing translator isn't all that fluent either

author: dr.diesel
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 12:11:58 pm
content: Episode #2, Lolani, is out:http://www.startrekcontinues.com/episodes/#.UvoR3XW9g_Q

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 02:22:37 pm
content: If i hear one more time technobabble about 'relays' ic star-trek i'm gonna send some transistors and integrated circuits to the writers.Those were invented in 1950's. And here it is 21xx and we are still screwing around with 'relays'.

author: SeanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 07:21:01 pm
content: Note the original Hulk is a star as well. Also Erin grey from Buck Rogers. As well the part of Scotty is played by his son.Worth noting is how much is done by the cast, look at the credits for the other roles they have

author: bluejonah
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 10:35:19 pm
content: Man, I miss Star Trek. I kinda wish there was a new series. But, I know that it would never live up to ST:TNG for me. And the pain of watching another dreadful series. *cough* Enterprise *cough*

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 10:47:11 pm
content: At the risk of labeling myself an ubernerd... I wish someone (like the Star Trek people) would come out with something even more futuristic - like 10,000 years in the future, or 1 million years in the future.I think one of the things that made TNG so good was that they didn't limit themselves. Enterprise was limited because it was supposed to be before TNG, so they can't have anything that isn't in TNG. Voyager was limited because they are supposed to be alone, so they can't have any interaction with other federation species. DS9 was limited because they are basically stuck on an immovable ship (they learned their lesson part way through, but having the Defiant was still a band-aid on a major plot blunder). I know they come up with plot twists to let them occasionally get around these limitations, but they tend to be the groan-and-roll-eyes episodes that nobody likes.One of the great things about TNG was it was totally open... they could go anywhere and do anything. They should get back to that formula... but rather than thinking of ways to make the same old plot (a bunch of folks in space) interesting, toss in a curveball by accelerating the timeline far, far in the future and they can basically forget everything from the old series and have no particular strings attached to anything they do.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 11:10:13 pm
content: I'm not discriminatory. I'd do the green chick.

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2014, 11:18:04 pm
content: For that matter, there's already a smattering of canon in the, er, 26th to 30th centuries I think. Enough intrigue for a starting point, and then it's pretty much free from there...'Spose the real reason is, Trek just isn't culturally relevant today (and also whatever you might have to say about Rick Berman). Which is a sad thing in my opinion. But that's okay, give it a few years (or decades..), it'll swing back around.Tim

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 12:14:47 am
content: Quote from: T3sl4co1l on February 11, 2014, 11:18:04 pmAs I recall, one of the big criticisms of Berman is that he too closely followed Roddenberry's "utopian future where everyone is good and everything is just" ideal. DS9 is maybe one of the best ST series' and it's full of war and death (especially when it got good). It would be great if Berman just pissed off and let someone else do something with the ST franchise. There is always a good market for good Sci-Fi - but Berman and Roddenberry's vision of the future is an anachronism in 2014.

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 01:34:22 am
content: I don't recall it's as popular an opinion that "DS9 is maybe one of the best" though.Ironically, I think I've heard more criticism around Berman about taking the opposite direction, DS9 being the perfect example: static (it's on a station!), slower paced, dirtier characters (arguably, more complex, but..), and pushing as much as possible Roddenberry's ideals (like, Federation-can-do-no-evil and such). Maybe that wasn't so much Berman at work, I don't know.Overall, I wouldn't rate DS9 very highly, especially the first season or two, which were downright boring. But I must say, the multi-part story arcs were really cool. Also, poor O'Brien...I suppose it's worth noting that you can take just about anything from the franchise as a whole. Change, and resistance to change, are both good and bad. There's an episode about nearly anything throughout the history. Really, critiques reflect as much about the critic as the subject. Which is kind of neat, I suppose one could argue all good art should be able to do that?One thing I didn't like about DS9 and VOY is the character design. They did it right in TNG, each character largely embodying a relatively narrow, caricatured aspect of behavior: duty, adventure, intellect, empathy, intuition, and so on. You could pair a given premise with a given set of characters from TNG, and end up with a different story each time, but the outcomes were much the same between the characters in DS9 and VOY, with more diluted characters, the stories that much more recycled and less memorable.Anachronism, yeah, that's kind of the problem I think. I mean, the series (and its creator) has its roots in the 60s after all. The stories are often preachy and patronizing. Many of the issues do remain pertinent to this day (sadly, I suppose), but perhaps the storytelling style has changed over time.Which, bringing things back on topic, I must say the 'Continues' series looks to have captured the spirit of TOS very nicely, yes, down to the corny and kitch. Whether you like the style, for better or worse. Maybe it's not the biggest thing on the whole today (clearly it's not on mainstream television), maybe it's the retro appeal, maybe it's just for the older generation that grew up on TOS. I never really got into TOS myself, but I do appreciate how hard they've worked on this: the design, the characters, the writing, the cinematography, especially with a reduced crew producing it, they've worked hard, and it shows, it's well done.Tim

author: TheBorg
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 04:11:30 am
content: Yes yes yes yes yes!Now. Gotta finish watching TNG, Voyager, Enterprise, DS9, and TOS. Man, I gotta get some spare time set out. I've been trying to finish TNG for a few months now. Season 6!A bit late to the Trekkie party though- I'm 17!TNG is my favorite so far, I can only take so much of Kirk talking, like this. Like everything; has a pause. Voyager is great too (I'm on season 3, I know, just watch the whole thing already! I haven't even gotten to Seven of Nine yet!).

author: ecat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 06:15:15 am
content: Going through a Star Trek phase a while ago I thought these fan made animations among the best of the bunch:This one is not quite completeNB, this is one guy turning out 3 hour episodes (!). Also, it does take a while to get to used to the fact he does all of voice acting himself - there is a reason behind this - but once, and if, you get passed this, his work is very high quality.You may also like:Once again very high quality work.

author: cimmo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 06:19:54 am
content: Quote from: free_electron on February 11, 2014, 02:22:37 pmMaybe they're Solid State Relays?Perhaps even Zero-crossing?

author: cimmo
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 06:22:44 am
content: Quote from: bluejonah on February 11, 2014, 10:35:19 pmGive Season 4 (the final season) a go.I thought the first few seasons were pretty 'Meh', but S4 was a contiguous story arc and not too bad IMHO.

author: ecat
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 08:27:36 am
content: @OP,Some of the ST fan stuff can be painful to watch, the heart is in the right place and everyone is trying their best but the result is still rough. I've just watched the two episodes you posted, they are quite outstanding, ty for posting

author: MrsR
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 08:57:57 am
content: It is amazing that 13 episodes started such a following.CHEERSRachael

author: T3sl4co1l
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 12:09:03 pm
content: Quote from: cimmo on February 12, 2014, 06:19:54 amOddly, my mind always thought of radio relays, or something like that.Tim

author: Jon Chandler
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 12:40:28 pm
content: There are actually two groups producing high quality follow-on programs to the original series. Star Trek Continues is the new-comer with two episodes. Also producing high quality shows is Star Trek Phase II. They are similar is having sets true to the original, the same cheesy special effects and so on.Star Trek Phase II actually came from the remnants of a network effort to re-launch the original series that eventually turned into the first Star Trek movie. They have a number of scripts written for that effort plus customs and sets. Their first episode came out in 2004, with #9 set to be released on February 14th. Walter Koenig (Chekov) and George Takei (Sulu) have both made guest appearances on Star Trek Phase II.It's a bit confusing watching these at first. The characters are played by "the wrong" actors. But if you watch for a few minutes, you get past that. Kirk is Kirk, even if not played by William Shatner and so on. The characters are true to the original. Attached is a collection of the various Kirks, Spocks and McCoys. Working on doing the same for the rest of the main characters, but Chekov has been played by so many different people it's hard to figure them all out.All of the Star Trek Phase II episodes may be found on YouTube.

author: Alana
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 07:42:56 pm
content: Did anyone mentioned ST Hidden Frontierhttp://www.hiddenfrontier.com/?

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 08:11:49 pm
content: Quote from: Corporate666 on February 11, 2014, 10:47:11 pmBabylon 5 did manage to do a bit of that, by bringing in older races who were thousands or millions of years ahead of mankind in their evolution and technological development. There was even a glimpse of what humans were destined to become a million years in the future.

author: Arp
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 12, 2014, 08:28:50 pm
content: Quote from: bluejonah on February 11, 2014, 10:35:19 pmSeason 3 and the Xindi was pretty good. Are you referring to the first season?

author: Dave Turner
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2014, 12:29:23 am
content: It is at least interesting, if not important, to remember that the original series was first broadcast during the 'Cold War' and had ceased production before man first landed on the the moon.The stories, anecdotes and the description of the raison d'etre of the original series were recorded in a book entitled "The Making of Star Trek", of which I had an original edition, sadly no longer in my possession made interesting reading particularly considering today's mobile phones, automatic doors etc. .For the time the effects, especially for a supposedly low budget TV series, were darn good.As society progressed so did the genre. The Next Generation, (possibly even better than the original series) broadcast 21 years later reflected the change in political thinking, in western society at least.Trek fan or not it is undeniable that many current electronic devices were brought fruition from ideas popularized in the Star Trek universe.