Eric Dollard...is back !!!! - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 26, 2013, 12:20:49 pm
content: The only scientist to have recreated the core work of Nikola Tesla needs our help and we need his!everybody help !!!http://www.indiegogo.com/ericdollard

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2013, 12:28:04 pm
content: The free energy thingy again ?

author: mikeselectricstuff
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timestamp: January 26, 2013, 12:28:43 pm
content: Nutter alert...

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 26, 2013, 12:42:45 pm
content: yeah wright..... 1.5X faster G networks...and underearth global internet is a "free energy" spam......go to your 13.000$ agilent skopes and "play" with "delay lines" ....i just have a 20MHz scope and 2MHz generator and i can replicate his work....EDIT:don't spam that youtube ...it is not me

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: January 26, 2013, 12:58:51 pm
content: OMG, the first 15 seconds of the video says it all, you turn off right there.What is scary, is that it looks like he is going to reach his funding target 40% of the way there with 39 days left.Someone got suckered into giving $1000, and 31 people gave a hundred bucksBut I don't get this, but maybe I just missed it? (didn't watch the whole video) Who's running the campaign?, it doesn't seem to be Eric himself. i assume it's the weird mysterious voice-over dude.What does the money go toward?Dave.

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 26, 2013, 01:06:29 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 26, 2013, 12:58:51 pmprimary goal:to get him to sleep to a bed and not inside his 40years old car in the middle of the desert...secondary:and to get his equipment back that lawyers took out from him...

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2013, 03:05:26 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 26, 2013, 12:58:51 pmUsually behind such a big amount is the same person that asks for the money. It acts as motive for others.Alexander.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2013, 04:53:33 pm
content: Quote from: pir on January 26, 2013, 12:42:45 pmI just wasted minutes off my life watching that analog computer video.First of all it does not compute .... So its not a computer.The bozo in the video talks about 700 mV being 8 volt peak peak. Yeah right.And whats all that tin-hat meter stuff ?People like that should be tarred, feathered and put on public display to be ridiculed.

author: ftransform
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 26, 2013, 06:05:06 pm
content: I want to hear a hard core gangster rap song which puts down free energy and promotes the laws of thermodynamics.Along the lines of geto boys !You guys should donate me money I will spent it on malt liquor and voltage standards at least I am honest.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2013, 10:18:29 pm
content: "Analogue Computer".....what you see in that video...is a 500m~1Km power-information transmition line...the "analogue" goes to how to "put it" over your bench that is 2mx1m , and the "computer" goes to how to "measure" itwhat did you expect to see?..... samething that do "1+1" and do it whit "Analogue"way?i bet that not a single person knows that if you use a SW with a "Tesla-coil antenna" could do RX-TX underground to the other side of the planet....without a cable and without PAYing the com unications companies....This is "hot" one wire transmition line ...that actually the "one wire" is not a wire but the earth...and the RX/TX travels with 1.5x the speed of light (?/2c)....yeah the hopus-pokus free energy conspiracy...1+1=100000 people that are slaves and do exactly what they tell them.......just don't "break" the "economy" of "100 people"...and you'llget your monthly payment......and if a "crazy one" comes out and say it ...the slaves run over him....that is what this man is...a crazy drinking Scientist who lives into his 40years old car in the desert without his equipment...you give 1$ to get your headscreen of your car be spited by a homeless person that cleans it with his jacket and you and feel nice that helped someone...but you won't give 10$ to a "crazy" X-scientist to learn more about the "free-endless-unlmited-comunication system ever" cause you don't want to hear the misery of the people next to you.......i don't care if it is a fraud....but i bet my 10$ i gave that is not......i am not a slave...i don't think what others tell me to think...i think myself...i am EE but i bet many of us don't know what current is...by the way ...what is faster moving? ...AC,DC,PWM...?just wake up

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 26, 2013, 11:08:55 pm
content: Quote from: pir on January 26, 2013, 10:18:29 pmYes, that's what the term analog computer means, and that's what everyone would expect.So the description is wrong and misleading. Your description is just gobbledegook.QuoteThe classic confusion of angular velocity and linear velocity in a waveguide I bet...QuoteIf you want to give $10 to someone, hey, that's fine. But sorry to tell you, if you are doing it for the technology, then you've been duped.Dave.

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 26, 2013, 11:18:33 pm
content: a video could be nice and very interesting...just 10caps and 10 coils....a 20M scope..and a 2M gen with AM....this must be ...say 2Km?i never told electrons run faster that c....the "information" travels faster than c...

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 26, 2013, 11:25:10 pm
content: hey mike....could you tell us in your country what happens to a person cought with a "scanner"?

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 26, 2013, 11:27:51 pm
content: Quote from: pir on January 26, 2013, 11:18:33 pmThis violates special relativity (causality). Was Einstein also conspiring against him?

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 12:26:16 am
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 26, 2013, 11:08:55 pmi like the little hp logo on your BS detector. Maybe HP means Horse-Poo in this context ...

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 12:26:51 am
content: Quote from: pir on January 26, 2013, 11:25:10 pmRadio scanners are legal to own with no restriction on bands AFIK. Listening to some bands possibly isn't. but most sensitive stuff is digital nowadays

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 27, 2013, 12:43:56 am
content: Quote from: alm on January 26, 2013, 11:27:51 pmi didn't know that information has mass...

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 27, 2013, 01:00:44 am
content: Quote from: free_electron on January 27, 2013, 12:26:16 amwell ...could you explain or built a system with an oscilating reference ground on a 91% transfer coax cable that TX/RXs another modulated information....?this man can...by the way...your super-duper 1billion$ lab equipment that has Horse-Poo all over them..can't catch that...my 20years old 20M scope can...and by the way also has poo all over them.....OOuuuuu....got child into my spine .....hyperspace or counterspace...http://techland.time.com/2012/09/19/nasa-actually-working-on-faster-than-light-warp-drive/search for:System for reception and Transmission of Telluric Waves by Eric DollardTheory of Wireless Power by Eric Dollard_OCRsimplified Dollard's work...worth of 10$:

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 03:02:12 am
content: Wow, that Dollard is a classic. I really enjoy science fringe nutters as entertainment. So many flavors, like the fine wines of illogic. In his case, so much repeating of the word 'dead' regarding the Sun, because the sunspot cycle is currently full of surprises, contributes a full, fruity flavor. Delivering a video talk from the driver's seat of a beat up old bomb - that's a uniquely piquant twist too.Every now and then, reading 'fringe science' stuff turns up something really interesting. That's how I first encountered 'ball lightning' reports, which I initially assumed must be impossible bullshit, purely made-up stories, since the effects reported didn't seen thermodynamically possible. But on closer examination, it turns out to be a real phenomenon. That was the start of an interesting journey... I do love a good unsolved mystery, especially when it involves fundamental physics and lots of energy.In Dollard's case, this is pretty clearly going to be all comedy.Please don't mention his name together with Tesla's.

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 27, 2013, 03:42:50 am
content: Quote from: TerraHertz on January 27, 2013, 03:02:12 am....actually my friend ....you are the first reasonable -self thinking person - with more questions that answers that i spoken in this thread till now...your opion is solid as your logic , way ahead form others here....that is the "point" i am mentioning here...yes we all know the well known science and every day technology....but are we gonna stop here ? ...like stay in the fritz ?....like my mom don't let me get out and play?...also take in mind that "mom" of yours maybe is "afraid" of you...that you gonna do some "bad things"....it is preferred to stay inside where she can see you ...i respect your opinion ... periodon the other hand i thought that in a very "good-and-resonable" forum-blog (till today i respected) it was better to find help from other "paranormal-free_energy-hocus_pocus" alike forums-blogs and some people could share info and exchange opinions ....but...it is the same....(what a pity)if someone is offended and this thread worth of erasing it , please do so....p.s hope sameone is awaken

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 06:19:17 am
content: Quote from: pir on January 27, 2013, 01:00:44 ammaybe if i spent 40 years drinking eau-de-cologne and sniffing paint thinner i could. Yeah.As for what your scope showed i have no idea . all your video shows is a bunch of capacitors and coils arranged in a geometric shape driven by an audio amplifier. Rearranging them shows what ? That the surrounding field changes ? Big whoop. And what's with calling that an analog computer ?The same goes for your childish scribblings with smiley faced antenna's . Please go away and stop wasting peoples time. You and that dollard dude are a quack and a fraud and i call you on it.Now go away and continue what you were doing , i don't care. Lunatic.

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 06:53:35 am
content: Quote from: pir on January 27, 2013, 12:43:56 amActually the only thing that can't travel faster than "C" is information. There are bizarre things in the universe moving quite faster than light. They don't "carry information" though.Alexander.

author: Unknown
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timestamp: January 27, 2013, 07:31:56 am
content: Quote from: firewalker on January 27, 2013, 06:53:35 amhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee%E2%80%93Yang_theorem"you can't actually measure an E-Field couse when you bring a charge near it you change the quantum superpositioninghttp://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1957/fromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_superposition"...For example, the electrical field due to a distribution of charged particles can be described by the sum of the contributions of the individual particles."maybe those electron are "theirs"...."ours" don't do that...til now...next millenium maybe will follow the rulesthe information is already there...don't have to travelchears

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: January 27, 2013, 08:52:56 am
content: Quote from: pir on January 27, 2013, 03:42:50 amYou aren't sharing anything useful in any comprehensible and debatable manner, you are just extolling the virtues of quackery. An industry full of certified and proven charletans and/or people who simply have the science wrong.It will earn you nothing but laughter on any professional electronics forum, and desededly so. It is a fringe nutter industry that is rightfully ignored at first mention by almost all educated industry professionals. That's not the fault of people not being "open minded" enough or whatever, it's a reputation well earned through countless facepalmsThere is no big conspiricy here to hide or bury any technology, it's just a fringe group of people who haven't been able to produce anything genuinely practical at all for generations of trying. If something was practical it would have simply been done, demonstrated, produced, and would win out.But that hasn't happened, why? Either:a) because there is a big worldwide government and/or corporate conspiracy to supress people and technology for blah blah blah that's been going on for a hundred years.b) It's simply not practical enough to either work at all, or be useful to anyone.Which is the mostly likely?Apply occam's razor and call me in the morning.Dave.

author: mikeselectricstuff
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 11:01:35 am
content: Quotec) I never worked, there is no measurable effect, but the person involved has insufficient understanding to realise it*, and if/when they do, they've developed such an obsession over it, or are so heavily indebted investors that they can't/won't admit defeat, and then the conspiracy fantasies take over as the most plausible explanation in their own self-deluded little world.*Poor understanding of real/apparent power & phase shift in AC systems is a common starting point.

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 11:21:16 am
content: Quote from: pir on January 26, 2013, 10:18:29 pmI have a bridge to sell. Interested?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 11:30:34 am
content: Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on January 27, 2013, 11:01:35 amYup, oh so common.A famous case here in oz is the Lutec machine. It even got as far as coverage on the nightly news here. And of course eventually vanished after a decade of dicking around and making excuses.The Steorn Orbo is another biggie that duped a lot of investors for a lot of years, and of course produced zip. Many people still have faith that it's going to eventually work. The classic self-deluded religious investment. if you believe it hard enough, and enough other beleieve it too, then it must be trueDave.

author: M. András
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 11:33:52 am
content: Quote from: pir on January 26, 2013, 10:18:29 pmproof? prototypes without a 20m barricade so noone can see the tiny wires all over the place etc?

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 12:11:36 pm
content: For those playing along at home, here is the finest snake oil money can buy:Dave.

author: jaqie
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 01:08:14 pm
content: I just can't understand pir's posts no matter how many times I try to read them...My parser just divides by zero every time I try. I just cannot assimilate that level of nonsense and horrible typing combined.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 01:16:50 pm
content: Quote from: EEVblog on January 27, 2013, 12:11:36 pmThat's a shocking waste of a nice glass table and some good test gear. Damn, even a thermal camera.It wasn't even entertaining. Zero points to Orbo.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 06:10:10 pm
content: first of all my logic is offended when an "unexplored area" is brought up , people who had highly education and specialized in an area like EE, "jump out" and "modify their behaviour" like: "dud...we don't touch that area....it is free energy"....or like:"nutter alert"..or like:"Horse-Poo and Bullshit overload meters"...who talked about free energy anyway....you did...i talked about transmition lines and wireless comsfor your information if you TX-RX @ SW you need long 10m-30m dipole antennas...up in the sky....away from ground...many watts...clear sky...night is better...etc(no baluns and sorter antenna techniques...)how can you explain that a lunatic...like this man...can transmit with his modified 50years old military SW radios "out of the ordinary way" and ageinst the "very well proven scientific method" ?a very old professor,in the first "lab lesson",on the first year on the university taught me and others about scientific method:"we go to the walk...thought the switch..and the lamb is on.This is the observation.Then we split the hole phenomenon in sections that can be explained and measured more easily,you...the wall...the switch...the lamb...."what is your method?....the nutter and bullshit meters?...have you tried it?...have you read about it before?There is a story in Greek philosophy told by the great Plato:"Plato's Cave"If you want to educate yourself more so you can help your kids and the humanity close all your technical books and start reading Plato.cheers

author: Bored@Work
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 06:19:14 pm
content: You know, if you don't even manage to organize the clutter in your head before expressing something then people seriously doubt if you can realistically evaluate an idea. And boy, you do have clutter in your head.

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 27, 2013, 07:17:29 pm
content: Now he's dragging lambs i to it. What did those animals do to deserve that...

author: JackOfVA
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timestamp: January 28, 2013, 12:40:59 am
content: Quote from: pir on January 27, 2013, 12:43:56 amIn fact, information and energy (and hence mass) are related.Nice summary of the relationship is athttp://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/nov/19/information-converted-to-energy:Leó Szilárd in 1929, who argued that the demon must consume energy in the act of measuring the particle speeds and that this consumption will lead to a net increase in the system's entropy. In fact, Szilárd formulated an equivalence between energy and information, calculating that kTln2 (or about 0.69 kT) is both the minimum amount of work needed to store one bit of binary information and the maximum that is liberated when this bit is erased, where k is Boltzmann's constant and T is the temperature of the storage medium.Since energy and mass are related via E=MC2, information has mass.Jack

author: EEVblog
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timestamp: January 28, 2013, 12:48:00 am
content: Quote from: jaqie on January 27, 2013, 01:08:14 pmYou are not alone!Dave.

author: tinhead
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 01:24:50 am
content: i still remember, 4200 B.C., an idiot (human being of course) forgot to push the button and our lab, the whole city got vaporised. Shit happens. And all these humans were really scared, "why our gods are pissed off" and "why god can not make light anymore". We haven't even try to explain it ... Anyway, what i'm trying to say is - without technology there was no free energy, and simply said sun is a "kind of technology" as well wind or gamma rays, oh yeah and power transmition lines. But all these "free energy" is not free, not unlimited, and the efficiency is simply not good enough. However, it seems that some human beings got too much sun and too less wind, it looks like their brains got toasted with gamma rays ... and they seeing now everywhere free power transmition line energy

author: ampdoctor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 05:40:11 am
content: I'm more than willing to accept the notion that at some point people will discover some new law or invalidate an old one which will allow us to move faster than the speed of light or extract more energy from a system than was put into it or who knows what. Things that we accept today as commonplace would have been looked at as the lunatic fringe and entirely in the domain of pure science fiction 50 years ago. As such, I would hope that the theoretical physicists forever peer over the precipice of the ridiculous and never come to the conclusion that we know all that there is to know or have discovered all that there is to discover.As long as it's done within the frameworks of the scientific method and peer review and not selling snake oil as a means of making a fast buck, I'm at least open to considering most any claim IF it can be substantiated and repeated independently. Jack asses like this just give people working on the bleeding edge of technology a bad name and make a difficult row to hoe even harder.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 08:15:08 am
content: Quote from: ampdoctor on January 28, 2013, 05:40:11 amNo need to hope, that's just what they do, and will continue to do. They lust after making that breakthrough discovery that will win them that medal with Alfred's head on it.Dave.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 12:02:16 pm
content: Exhibit 517b"NOT Factor" gauge from the bridge of starship SVA Unlikely.First manned interstellar translation using an experimental Improbability Engine.Starship class: Light Cruiser. Hull laid AF 385 in the Crux Corp Mars orbit yards.[AF - After Fall. AF zero is AD 2026 by the old calendar.]Commissioned Oct 3 AF 388 into the Belt Territories navy as ISSN Watchful.[ISSN - Imperial Sol Space Navy.]The ISSN Watchful served 23 years of trade regulation and policing.Captured intact by the Belter forces in the opening months of the Belt War of Independence, the ship was renamed FSN Gusanamo. [Free Space Navy]She saw extensive action against Earth forces during AF411-413. During the decisive Dark Side Battle of 412, a brilliant deception by Captain Ferris led to the rout of the numerically superior Imperial forces. One year later, Admiral Ferris and the FSN Gusanamo hosted the signing of the Capitulation of Earth.In AF 426, the Gusanamo was decommissioned and bought by Impro Corp. Renamed the SVA Unlikely, it served as a research and test platform in Neptune orbit during early development of the I-Engine. After the instability accident on 21 Feb 429, in which five researchers died (only two bodies identifiable as such were recovered) SVA Unlikely was refitted for remote operation and moved to Pluto orbit. Remote AI-assisted development of the I-Engine continued there despite several further mishaps, including the famous 'Coincidence Pulse' incident during which half of Pluto vanished and significant synchronicity effects were observed throughout the Solar System.In AF 434, Stromberg's Theorem led to a breakthrough in the I-Engine entanglement shielding problem. One year later, on 3rd May 435, the first translation to Alpha Centauri was made, with a crew of eight including Stromberg.Maximum Not Factor achieved on that translation was 6.3, resulting in a Statistical Radius of Arrival of 850,000 Kilometers. However unexpected imbalances contributed to a poor Cohesion, with 2.9% of the ship's mass failing to materialize in correct form. Stromberg was among the five survivors. The ship's crew worked nearly two years at Alpha Centauri repairing the ship's systems, and making adjustments to the I-Engine based on I-Field topological understanding gained from the distribution of 'abstracted material' defects. The translation return to Sol was made on 16th Jan 437, and this time only 0.002% of the ship abstracted. All five crew survived, though one subsequently required amputation of the conceptually challenging object that had previously been his left arm.Subsequently the SVA Unlikely was mothballed, and finally graved as a permanent historic monument in Mars orbit in AF 443 after her I-Engine was remotely dismantled, removed, and the parts boosted out of the Solar System for safety due to continuing improbability after-effects. All subsequent Improbability Engine ships are designed to geometrically simpler forms such as spheres and the polygonal solids, as these allow for more determinate control of the I-Field.

author: M. András
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 03:53:03 pm
content: what? what sci-fi book is this?

author: Sionyn
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 05:10:15 pm
content: man what has he been inhaling ?dose this guy have concept of entropy and thermodynamicswhat a bunch of woo woo

author: grumpydoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 09:40:23 pm
content: QuoteThe reference to Belters places in in Larry Niven's "Known Space" - I don't recognise the other elements as being anything Niven wrote - but then, it's 20 years since I read any of his stuff.

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 28, 2013, 11:26:58 pm
content: I just wrote it then, and whipped up the 'NOT meter' photos, in response to Dave's remark about scientists searching for breakthroughs. The thread needed somecoherentnonsense.There is no SF story behind it, it's a short-short SF standalone.Surely you recognize the origin of the Improbability Drive?

author: free_electron
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 12:28:39 am
content: The Heart of Gold .. 42 !

author: aargee
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 03:12:17 am
content: I enjoyed the NOT article...Winning the prize for best use of an electric jug element and a fuel gauge in a prop.Fortunately my brain won't let me express this in a shambolic, non-lucid collection of mixed case phrases.Can I have some money now?

author: TerraHertz
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 06:35:01 am
content: Quote from: aargee on January 29, 2013, 03:12:17 amThanks!QuoteNow I'm offended. I'll have you know there is nothing but the finest quality space-junk in that prop. And what looks golden,isgold (plated).The gauge used to read 'KNOTS', ha ha.Where I consider the photos fail, is I couldn't quickly come up with something looking like a plinth in a museum, with a plaque on the wall, etc.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 10:49:24 am
content: Quote from: pir on January 26, 2013, 10:18:29 pmI think the term "analogue computer" is being abused a bit here by both sides. You could call an op-amp wired as a summing amplifier an analog computer, but that would be just as correct and useful as calling an AND gate a digital computer.An analog computer in the proper sense of the term is a machine that can integrate both steady state and time-varying voltages; it solves the mathematical model of a physical system expressed/formulated in terms of integral equations. Analog computing is actually and very interesting field from a theoretical perspective and one that I have been obsessed with both in theory and practically and for several months now. I've even embarked on teaching my self calculus (never progressed beyond the technician level in my formal education). Can't say the whole field bears much resemblance to the utter BS you've been posting, which is seriously:.... although weirdly entertaining, in a way.

author: BravoV
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 10:58:19 am
content: Imo, thread like this should be merged into the famous & stickied "The Snake Oil Thread" ->https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/the-snake-oil-thread/, or better closed/deleted upon creation, it is an insult to the community.

author: lewis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 29, 2013, 03:44:46 pm
content: My workshop air conditioning unit is over-unity, it takes 1.6kW of electricity to produce 5.5kW of heat.

author: GK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 12:36:48 pm
content: Quote from: BravoV on January 29, 2013, 10:58:19 amOh lighten up. I'm as offended by blatant hokum as the next person, but this is an open forum and stupidity is part of the human condition, so stuff like this is inevitable. It's not like we're being censored for being too harshly critical; the sane still seem to be in the majority. It looks like you've all scared the OP away anyway.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 01:00:10 pm
content: Quote from: lewis on January 29, 2013, 03:44:46 pmAs an old colleague of mine used to say (excuse the old skool racism) "White Man Magic"!Dave.

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 01:08:24 pm
content: Quote from: lewis on January 29, 2013, 03:44:46 pmNop... It takes 1.6 kWatts to "move" (not produce) 5.5 kWatts of heat.Alexander.

author: lewis
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 01:51:45 pm
content: Quote from: firewalker on January 30, 2013, 01:08:24 pmAnd it works by witchcraft voodoo magic.

author: LEECH666
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: January 30, 2013, 02:10:05 pm
content: Eric Dullard?