Keithley Switch Repair - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / repair

author: wriely
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 08, 2023, 07:15:45 pm
content: Keithley used switches like the array pictured below on numerous of their instruments manufactured from the late 1960s through the late 1990s:One common failure mode of these switches is for the shafts to break -- as is the case with the rightmost switch depicted in the picture above. One could replace the switch by desoldering it and soldering in a replacement from a parts donor, but that is not as easy as it first sounds due to the way the switches are connected to each other via interlocking rails. I was wondering if anyone has successfully replaced just the shaft itself from a donor unit?I have a donor unit, but I have had no luck attempting to remove the shaft from the housing. Neither have I had any luck in removing the broken portion of the shaft from its housing. The shaft appears to interlock with the housing in a manner reminiscent of a tumbler lock. In any event, all of my prodding with tweezers and jeweler's screwdrivers has been in vain and I don't want to break anything by using too much force.

author: wriely
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2023, 12:01:15 am
content: A little persistence with the donor unit and I managed to extract the shaft -- see picture below:I discovered that the rail behind the switches prevents the shaft from being pushed through from behind, and as you can see from the metal inserts which are normally held in place against the shaft by the housing, withdrawing the shaft backwards is not going to work unless you can somehow hold the spring metal clips in a compressed position to allow the shaft to be pulled out from the front.I'm still hoping to find a way to pull the broken shaft from front of the housing. Seeing the complete shaft with the inserts in place makes it much clearer what I'm up against. If I find myself unable to do so, then I will have some desoldering to do in order to clear some room to remove the rear guard.

author: Swainster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2023, 05:53:03 am
content: I'd always assumed that I'd have to remove the whole gang to dismantle one of these switches. Anyway, just giving moral support from a fellow keithley fan. Looks like a 197A? Reminds me that I need to sort out my LCD zebra strip... probably will need to get them custom made.I'd guess that these parts are under quite high stress when in use, so glueing the broken shaft would be unlikely to last, and 3D printing would probably be too weak... unless you used nylon SLS maybe - I dont have an SLS type printer so couldn't say. Salvage is probably the best bet.

author: wriely
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: October 09, 2023, 03:21:42 pm
content: I expect someone with some CAD skills could create a model of the shaft. I'm no 3D printing expert but perhaps something like nylon or ABS would work and many printers can handle this material. In my case, I had an older Model 169 that I've been unable to repair that I decided to use as a parts donor.I was unable to find a way to remove the switches from the front. There is a tab sticking out of the rear underside of the shaft for which there is a slot cut in the rear of the housing, but the slot is not present at the front of the housing. I'm unwilling to use the amount of force that would be required to try to jam the shaft into the front of the housing. As a result, I was forced to remove the rear switch interlock rail. That wasn't too difficult except for the fact that I needed to remove a Caddock thin film resistor and a large wire-wound resistor as well. Using a Hakko desoldering iron, the Caddock came out without issue. However, I struggled with the wire-wound resistor for a long time, trying every trick I know to get it out. In the end, I succeeded, but destroyed all of the pads on the underside of the PC board and damaged several of the pads on the top side in the process. Hence my original preference to find an alternative way to replace the shaft.With the components out of the way, the rail came off the switches without issue and the broken shaft came out the rear easily with a slight push from the front of the housing. I loaded the donor switch assembly with the spring contacts in the original configuration and with a bit of fiddling was able to insert them into the rear of the housing. See the images below:If I had to do another repair like this, I would sacrifice the 5-legged wirewound resistor in order to avoid any PCB damage -- assuming I could find a replacement. The PCB hole size for the leads have barely enough room to fit them making desoldering them difficult. There just wasn't enough clearance to get all of the solder out of the holes with the leads in place. As it stands, I'm fortunate that only one of the leads of the resistor was connected to a trace on the underside of the board making that an easy repair. Whether it will still be able to handle 10A of current in ammeter mode is uncertain, however.While I have made no attempt to desolder any of the switches, I would have a big concern about limited clearance to draw out the solder. If the legs of the switches are a tight fit into the holes as they were with the wirewound resistor, I think desoldering them with conventional rework tools would be quite challenging.Oh, and yes -- the board is a Model 197A. I didn't mention that in the title since this seemed applicable to many of the Keithley models of this era that use these types of switch assemblies.

author: Swainster
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 12, 2023, 11:42:43 am
content: Well done!I could probably do a reasonable job of modelling the switch shaft, but all things considered, I'll think I'll wait until I have a switch that absolutely needs to be dismantled!