Electromagnetic waves virus detector - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: StillTrying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 11:42:19 am
content: https://twitter.com/Julija9Julija/status/1410210079924707328?s=20https://www.esquireme.com/content/53642-abu-dhabi-approves-covid-19-facial-scanners-that-read-electromagnetic-waves

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 11:52:41 am
content: Yes detecting electromagnetic waves with a phone camera app

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 11:55:12 am
content: That reminds me of the fake bomb detectors in terms of ethics.In this case it probably isn't too damaging (yet) as the UAE has an extremely high vaccination rate (152.1%), but it could be catastrophic if they rolled it out in some other countries in the region!Now if the phones were equipped with LWIR thermal cameras, they could probably give an indication ofactiveCovid symptoms, but then you could just as easily use an IR thermometer or airport style thermal camera system. I suppose IR would count as being on the electromagnetic spectrum.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 12:27:36 pm
content: QuoteThere you go. The phony app is just to force people to PCR testing.And the device is just an iPhone as can be seen.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 07:38:12 pm
content: But it was apparently approved by the authorities.How can this happen? (And, this is a real but also somewhat rethorical question, because authorities in various countries have been approving pretty questionable stuff during the Covid-19 crisis...)

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 08:08:36 pm
content: "The story of the fake bomb detectors"https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896Used in not one but several countries and their military. Go figure how they approved it.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 08:25:35 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on July 01, 2021, 08:08:36 pmThis is unbelievable. The creator got 3-year jail:https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29477894which is understandable. BUT, what I would have found even more justified: that any person responsible for approving this would have been jailed too. Was it the case? If not, how can that be? Seriously? And if top-level authorities can justify themselves by claiming they have been fooled by a couple persons, how can it not be considered a major problem?Seriously. I don't get it. There's a real problem here. And the problem is not the scammers.

author: themadhippy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 08:39:38 pm
content: QuoteThat would see the british army and the uk governments department for trade and industry in the courts as both promoted the device.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 09:31:47 pm
content: Quote from: Bud on July 01, 2021, 11:52:41 amIt's clearly bollox, but you do the cause no favours by chopping down a strawman. The devicedoes notuse the camera app to detect electromagnetic waves. There is a separate device which must be in close (relatively) proximity which does the wave detection.And if you think about for more than half a nanosecond, that's sensible - phone apps can be copied whereas actual hardware must be purchased for each setup.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 09:45:25 pm
content: Maybe the app is just linked to a thermal camera or IR thermometer after all then. Heat is the only part of the electromagnetic spectrum that the human body emits. I don't know why it would show the subject's face on the app - unless it's just Photoshopped.From the second link...QuoteWell yeah, if you've got active Covid then your temperature goes up.It sounds a lot more impressive (and expensive) than 'hey, this guy's running a temperature'!Not so great for asymptomatic super spreaders though.

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 10:32:34 pm
content: Quote from: dunkemhigh on July 01, 2021, 09:31:47 pmDid you watch the video? The dude just points the phone at people, no other equipment around.

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 01, 2021, 10:46:21 pm
content: Did you check the twitter link? Clearly not

author: Cyberdragon
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2021, 06:49:07 am
content: Are you sure that's not just a machined metal ball? Is there anything even inside?

author: StillTrying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2021, 07:44:29 am
content: I've not seen the silver door knob in any photos of it in use.Studying the current EDE scanner description we can say that it cannot work and detect COVID," said S Krishnaswamy rather firmly.https://www.thequint.com/tech-and-auto/abu-dhabis-ede-scanners-to-detect-covid-hoax-indian-scientistshttps://youtu.be/1B-yedMGbnY?t=55

author: PlainName
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2021, 10:12:48 am
content: Quote from: Cyberdragon on July 02, 2021, 06:49:07 amIt's likely complete bollox. But that's a distraction from what was being discussed - please try and follow the conversation if you're going to drop into it.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 02, 2021, 05:54:18 pm
content: Yes. You're right, they claim detection is made with this "door knob" device, not with the camera. Of course, this is what they claim. No one knows what they actually do, nor whether there is anything active in this sensor, nor whether the app doesn't actually use the camera with a bogus algorithm while they claim using this external sensor. Or maybe the app just gives random results without using any sensor at all.But as I mentioned, the real question to me is: how could this ever get approved. It boggles the mind, and is extremely concerning IMHO.

author: StillTrying
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 03, 2021, 10:22:02 am
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on July 02, 2021, 05:54:18 pmSome of the Gov. might be in on it, for whatever reasons.Look at the 'golf ball' detector, an empty plastic box with a wobbly aerial that didn't even use a battery so not even any blinking lights,someonemust have known but carried on anyway.Some versions of it had claims that it could detect stuff on an aircraft flying 5km away.Last time I looked, around 18 months ago, some of these 'golf ball' detectors were still being used.