GROK 4: "PIN 7 is NOT a ground" - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / beginners

author: OpenCircuit
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 10, 2025, 09:28:06 pm
content: Response when asked if 7 and 14 are internally connected on a LM1819N Air-core meter driver. Can I rely on AI at all?

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 10, 2025, 09:57:19 pm
content: A quick peek at the schematic shown in the datasheet for that chip answers that question definitively:(Don't rely on "AI" for stuff like this)

author: UnijunctionTransistor
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 10, 2025, 10:28:06 pm
content: This would be similar to the CD4538 dual monostable, where pins 1 and 15, the returns for the timing caps, are internally connected to Vss, pin 8.However it is good engineering practice to actually ground both 1 and 15, and many datasheets show this recommendation.CD4538.pdf(116.05 kB - downloaded 17 times.)connect.pdf(29.2 kB - downloaded 23 times.)

author: TimFox
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 10, 2025, 10:32:16 pm
content: You didn't quote the exact reply from GROK, but perhaps it has learned pedantry and is distinguishing "is a ground" and "to be grounded" as a useless answer to the question "are they connected internally?".That's not the worst thing GROK has done recently.https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/09/grok-ai-praised-hitler-antisemitism-x-ntwnfb(Probably overdosed on anti-woke pharmaceuticals.)

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2025, 02:43:41 am
content: The only reason to ask an AI about electronics topics is to amuse yourself with how wrong its answers are.

author: 5U4GB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2025, 07:49:36 am
content: Quote from: TimFox on July 10, 2025, 10:32:16 pmIt did. What happened was that Grok contradicted several of Musk's right-wing conspiracy theory tweets, so he instructed its keepers to make it lean more towards right-wing... let's call them alternative facts. The result was, well you've seen the news stories.(Yes, this is getting political, but just explaining where MechaHitler came from).

author: 5U4GB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2025, 07:53:36 am
content: Quote from: amyk on July 11, 2025, 02:43:41 amFor an example, check out the AI-designedvoltage to fire converter.

author: mikerj
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2025, 09:01:10 am
content: Quote from: OpenCircuit on July 10, 2025, 09:28:06 pmNo, you can not rely on AI. They will give you correct answers some, or maybe even most of the time but they are notorious for confidently giving you complete nonsense as well. When you need to confirm the result an AI gives after a request for information then there is little point in using them for this purpose IMO. It's like a Tesla self driving system that requires the driver to remain fully alert and ready take over at an instant's notice, completely pointless and more stressful than just driving the car normally.

author: OpenCircuit
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2025, 05:44:41 pm
content: Grok..."smartest AI"[EDIT: add >] "in the world".