[SOLD] JBC soldering tools and accessories - Page 1
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author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2013, 09:30:21 am
content: Here for sale are the following JBC tools and accessories.

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2013, 09:36:53 am
content: JBC RELATED VIDEOsJBC SolderingEEVblog #472 - JBC CD-2BB Soldering Iron TeardownSMD practice with JBC soldering station (Tweezers)BGA Cleaning with JBC C245 spatula tipDrag soldering with JBC C245-931 tipUNBOXINGsJBC CD-2BC soldering station unboxing

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 11, 2013, 09:37:13 am
content: * RESERVED *

author: shotgun25
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 12, 2013, 09:31:51 pm
content: Ordered a JBC CD-2BB 230V soldering station with 4xC245 tips (C245-036/030, C245-906, C245-907 and C245-741) and I have been very impressed!I have used it at 350Centigrade on a few small jobs like motherboard capacitor replacement and solder re-flowing on a laptop charger jack including building a solder bridge between the ground solder pad and the charger ground shield (metal surround). The claims of quick return to temperature from sleep are true, the only tip I am using at the moment (C245-907) has been excellent for all work and I have moved the iron from joint to joint without having to wait for thermal recovery. This especially helps when you can't get all the solder out from a through hole joint on a capacitor (my lack of experience) and you are pushing the component leg first into solder heated up from the other side of the board - I can move from joint to joint and I have the capacitor in place in less than 10 seconds if I'm accurate with the position of the legs before I push slowly.My previous soldering station was an expensive (to me) circa £85 W.E.P 876D eBay clone which claims it has a Samsung chip on the thermal control circuit or whatever claim they were trying to make. At first I thought it was great because it was way better than the cheap solder station and cheap 30Watt Maplin soldering irons I had wasted money on. The W.E.P 876D barely helped me remove a double USB socket that was edge mounted (four ground anchor points + 4 usb pins) but I see now how bad of a job it did.With the JBC CD-2BB I haven't had any issues to note.For example, I am now able to successfully use my solder sucker without issue and I have seen some success with solder wick without it getting stuck to the through hole solder.I put this down to the solder staying molten long enough (I can actually see it turning a slightly dull grey from molten shiny as the heat disappears when I remove the iron) and the iron holding a stable temperature which seems to instantly melt solder even when I don't use flux.I love how heavy it is, the eBay clone would move if I had the iron too far from the base. The wire to the iron is removable and is thin and flexible like a laptop charger as well as having a holder on the station to keep it out of the way during soldering. The distance between your hand and the tip is short so I was able to solder more precisely, it feels like writing with a regular pen its that nice to hold and use.I like how it has an isolation switch on the unit itself and that it takes a standard kettle plug (standard desktop computer power supply cable). The display is an easy to read and appealing blue display with white writing which is very easy to read in dim natural light (soldering as the day is ending).It even comes with brass curls and a sponge (which I haven't used yet). The brass curls alone can be expensive in my opinion.I haven't had the need to use the quick tip removal but I'm happy to know I can safely switch tips without the iron having to be turned off to cool down the tip and unscrewing some potentially hot piece of metal to switch tips and then screw the metal holder on hoping not to cross thread it and then wait for the unit to reach temperature before I can work again.The price was the big boundary for me, but once I had committed to spending £300 to import a Hakko FX-888 230V unit from America without any tips this was a no brainer. Just factor in the currency conversion, PayPal fees and shipping when costing up this unit. My PayPal fees were €11.70 which I think includes currency conversion from £ to €.I looked at the three UK based suppliers of this unit and they all required you to be a business to create an account which is no use to a hobbyist like myself.mikgntl-2013 gives you agreat service!!!For your money you get... A great deal on this fantastic item, a tracking number for Poste Italia (which was then shipped via ParcelForce in England), pictures of the item working, what your package should contain, the invoice, your box with shipping label stuck on it..Don't hesitate to PM mikgntl-2013 and create a combo of soldering station and suitable tips for a great price, I'm glad I did!

author: ddavidebor
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 12, 2013, 09:55:49 pm
content: You can find the brass curls in any supermarket

author: M. András
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 12, 2013, 10:02:56 pm
content: hmm the last post looks like a paid reviewwith a user that only have 1 post

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 12, 2013, 10:51:17 pm
content: You should try one, if you find anyone with it around you, test it, it's fantastic iron. Just check Dave's teardown also, this is solid stuff, my hakko 888d isn't close at all, and my 951 clone is about as fast, but doesnt retain heat as good as this, but that can be the clone of course. But when it comes to tip handling, changing etc while using it, this is just another league, this works flawlessly, no worries at all.

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 12, 2013, 10:52:16 pm
content: Quote from: mikgntl-2013 on July 12, 2013, 10:31:24 amTo bad those cannot be used on an BB station

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 12, 2013, 11:55:10 pm
content: Quote from: M. András on July 12, 2013, 10:02:56 pmSorry to disappoint you.... It's just a buyer very satisfied with his new gear.And just to prevent you from going further, I don't have enough money to pay so many users!Indeed I don't even need another review because Dave has already told almost everything about this station and JBC quality.Wary users are invited to see his teardown of the JBC CD-2BB station.Quote from: neslekkim on July 12, 2013, 10:52:16 pmOfficially they aren't supported, but the control unit should not have any problem driving the tweezers.It would be interesting to further investigate the reason of this incompatibility.Maybe it's just the different shape of the holder (and of course a marketing strategy to sell their CP station).

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2013, 01:24:17 am
content: Yeah for any doubters, this iron is the real deal. I have an Ersa I-Con with iTool iron and it's pretty much the equivalent of the JBC. This level of iron is an amazingly pleasant tool to use. I tried the solder 2 solid copper pennies together demo and was able to do it in under 30 seconds from cold pennies to fully soldered with a little 1.5mm or so chisel tip. The response on these things is so fast and the heaters so powerful (150W peak for up to 30 seconds) that it can often overcome the need for more thermal mass. Now if you want to solder on a heatsink or something obviously you'd need a little bit bigger tip. I used to have an old RatShack 80W iron and it was passable, but the new iron is just outstanding. It has become much easier to do formerly difficult soldering work.

author: nukie
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2013, 02:08:13 am
content: The new modular firmware lose the power analog bar which is disappointing. The response time is so good on the new firmware I wonder if its really the actual tip temperature it is showing.

author: nukie
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2013, 02:12:25 am
content: If the above post is a paid review then its probably JBC who paid him because he wrote so little about the seller. Haha, I'm pretty happy with the last transaction the seller is a valuable resource for JBC owners who are hooked on tips.

author: M. András
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2013, 07:59:28 am
content: Quote from: mikgntl-2013 on July 12, 2013, 11:55:10 pmnah i dont have questions about the jbc tool's quality. just seemed fishy to me for a brand new user to come here and comment on this topic for his first post

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 13, 2013, 09:19:03 am
content: Quote from: M. András on July 13, 2013, 07:59:28 amIt's not so strange.. A user came across the thread and decided to join the community to buy the station. That's all.

author: mwsoft
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 08:55:51 am
content: Question:Do you have registered business? What about invoice and warranty? These prices are with or without Italian VAT? You didn't mention any of that...Or it's just "black market" and these stations came from who know where (fall off the truck?).I may be interested, but it seems a little bit fishy... Also need normal EU invoice with 0% VAT.

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 09:21:30 am
content: Thanks for asking. This is a private sale.As you can see from the pictures, everything is new.I'm not here to cheat people.For any other questions, don't hesitate to pm me.

author: mwsoft
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 09:34:04 am
content: Ok, so they really come from "who knows where", and the only warranty is no-DOA...I'll pass

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 09:41:10 am
content: I can live with that.

author: nukie
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 15, 2013, 12:53:40 pm
content: This seller makes JBC ownership more affordable. The fact that JBC rarely discount their tools and I suspect they have price fixing all over the internet makes me feel I am forced to pay a lot more for what I want. So for me personal use, the seller is god sent. If you are running a business for tax purposes, your an idiot to buy your tools from a non business supplier.

author: ddavidebor
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: July 16, 2013, 06:58:26 pm
content: Power on is for me perfectly acceptable for "brand new" regarding test gear and similar.We're not speaking about skirt, shoes, or underwear

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 16, 2013, 07:18:24 pm
content: I agree.

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 17, 2013, 12:03:04 pm
content: A quick followup...Users having problems with their JBC tools can send them directly to the JBC headquarter in Spainand have them serviced even without a proof of purchase.Warranty does not cover product wear due to use or mis-use.

author: Dreso12
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2013, 08:27:15 am
content: In my previous job we used JBC soldering irons for manual soldering of PV modules. We also did some rework in SMD diodes with them. In my experience they are a good piece of equipment, the survived many users and 24h/day work for quite a lot of time.The only problem with them is that the cartdridges are quite expensive and you have to change the whole cartdridge if the tip is not in good shape. Apart from that they are really good, the temperature regulation is excellent.

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 18, 2013, 09:02:36 am
content: Yep, cartridges are expensive. Fortunately they last quite long.

author: ben_r_
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2013, 09:36:21 pm
content: Only 230V versions.

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: July 29, 2013, 09:45:36 pm
content: Yes, I only deal with 230V stations (CD-2BC, DIT-2B, etc.). Anyway, I can ship worldwide.

author: ben_r_
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: July 30, 2013, 12:38:54 am
content: Quote from: mikgntl-2013 on July 29, 2013, 09:45:36 pmYea the shipping worldwide is awesome, cept we cant all use the 230V stations worldwide

author: brainwash
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 01, 2013, 10:46:56 pm
content: I fail to see the deal here, as a registered business I can deduct the VAT so I expect these to be at least 20% cheaper.All the following have the VAT invoice:http://smartec.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p19329_Loetstation-CD-2BB-mit-Loetkolben-T245-A-und-Kartuschen-C245-903-und-C245-741.html325E, has only two tips => 260Ehttp://www.ebay.de/itm/JBC-Kompakt-Lotstation-CD-2BB-Lotkolben-Zubehor-/221104300829380E, only one tip, still ~300Ehttp://www.weidinger-martinsried.de/shop/loet-_und_entloettechnik/jbc/loet-_und_entloetgeraete/jbc_loetstationen/wl26348339EThis was just after 10 minutes of searching. I might be missing something about why it's a good deal at your price of 359E. Tips are around 30E in official shops, with VAT included.I do not want to come out as aggressive, just pointing out things.

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 06:42:13 am
content: Not all of us can deduct VAT, for private use, and if you don't have company.IF I bought the 2BB in Norway, the price is €556, with only two tips. (And they don't sell the 2BC yet.. ) tax here is 25%And one tip cost €34, when I bought my station, the price was €49 each tip.The T210 handle: €100, T245: €124So good for some, bad for some maybe.. At least I know where to buy, and that is not in my country, except if I was running an company and doing this for professional business.

author: brainwash
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: August 02, 2013, 10:20:05 am
content: My bad, I did not see the prices I listed were not including VAT.The reason I'm asking is that as a registered business I deduct something even without VAT invoice, just that the price has to be at least 19-21% better than on the local market. Then there's the issue of stuff above 400 euros going into amortization, but that's completely offtopic.I see, if it comes with a proforma invoice it is indeed a saving even for companies here.

author: hooj
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: August 21, 2013, 08:03:33 pm
content: I got one CD-2BB with four cartridges from mikgntl-2013!It was more than a month ago but I was so busy that time at work and then suddenly vacation happenI've just back to normal lifemikgntl-2013, can you forgive me for such delay with feedback?And about the station... yes, it's the best soldering station I ever used before.My old ERSA Digital 2000 with Micro Tool iron will go for rest nowIt's still ok to solder SMD stuff, but JBC can make all that nasty things I ever dream aboutThank you so much, mikgntl-2013!And about packaging, it was incredible good!Even Russian Postal service can't destroy it!!! People who know what is Russian Post will understand meIt's arrived super fast over EMS.By the way, it's already updated with latest firmware, thanks toabyrvalg

author: elecBlu
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 03:34:44 pm
content: does your CD-2BB Station contain the USB Conntector on the back?

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 03:39:05 pm
content: That came on the 2BC models

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 04:48:25 pm
content: Quote from: elecBlu on September 08, 2013, 03:34:44 pmCD-2BB is the "previous" revision without the USB port. A serial adapter is required if you want to update the firmware.CD-2BC is just the same station with the added USB port on the rear side and a few cosmetic variations.

author: elecBlu
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 05:12:14 pm
content: thank you both, JBC website didn't say it that clear.

author: M. András
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 05:14:23 pm
content: i do wonder sometimes when you bump the thread why just the compact stations? if you sell their stuffs for a living you could show the advanced modular stations too etc. i hope you see what i mean

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 05:27:44 pm
content: Quote from: M. András on September 08, 2013, 05:14:23 pmNever said to sell JBC stuff for a living.I sometimes come across these tools and offer them here.

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 05:46:40 pm
content: Quote from: mikgntl-2013 on September 08, 2013, 05:27:44 pmOh yeah, the interrest is there, I just couldn't find any around here (in Norway) to offload my 2BB to..

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 08, 2013, 05:53:00 pm
content: Quote from: neslekkim on September 08, 2013, 05:46:40 pmIn that case, feel free to use this thread tor finding potential buyers.

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 10, 2013, 12:22:23 pm
content: It should be in Norway though, to damn expensive to send things out from this country (paid over $100 to ship an defunct hakko back to US last time... )

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 11, 2013, 04:17:32 pm
content: JBC CD-2BC soldering station unboxing

author: mikgntl-2013
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2013, 04:49:29 pm
content: New offer for the DIT-2B soldering station.Let's see if someone is interested.

author: neslekkim
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 21, 2013, 05:16:06 pm
content: new offer?, it's same price, only difference is that one can buy it without the tweezers?, It's the tweezers that's interresting for me at least.

author: cavlovic
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: September 22, 2013, 11:48:43 am
content: Do you have any CD-2BB or 2BC for sale? You mention them but can't find them listed in this topic.