Hot Air Station - Page 1
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author: rounsmith
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 09:09:40 am
content: Hello to all,I decided to buy a hot air rework station for fixing up micro usb connectors and doing some smd rework.I found these two.http://www.ebay.de/itm/DE-Lager-SMD-Hot-Rework-Station-Lotung-Station-Air-Gun-Heisluft-Loten-Reparatur-/252204292635?hash=item3ab88c1a1b:g:lzgAAOSwnipWZpfYhttp://www.ebay.de/itm/DE-WEP-858D-SMD-Hot-Rework-Digital-Station-Air-Solder-Blower-Gun-220V-Like-Atten-/221030390033?hash=item3376701911:g:usYAAOSwDN1UUhVQI am scrayching my head since i found these.They are the same although the first is like 12 euros cheaper !What should i do?P.S. I live in greece and i have some paypal balance so i need to buy from ebay.de or ebay.co.uk since if i buy from china my station will propably stuck on customs forever.P.S.2. Reccomend a good magnifying device(lamp, glasses , microscope?).

author: nixfu
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 02:04:21 pm
content: They are the same. They are both 858 clones. You will also find the same thing under different names like Atten, Vouyue, Yihua and others.They are all pretty much the same device which is a copy of a hakko hot air unit, and they work fairly well.Dave reviewed the Atten model several years ago:I have one myself and they work find for doing reflow on the bench. I did a modification to mine to add a mains power switch with a light on the top because I did not a) trust the soft-off switch on the front that puts it into standby mode, and b) did not want to reach around to the back of a hot want to get to the original rear hard power switch. Now that I have a real hard mains switch on the top, I like it much more.

author: Shock
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 08:48:13 pm
content: I don't know if this may influence your decision.But in this threadthe micro has been reverse engineered to suit the Youyue 858D and the Yihua 858D.Quality wise all these models are fairly similar but there are several things you need to consider.You need to check that it has been safely and correctly wired inside (live/neutral/fuse/earth).That the grounding/earthing is making a good contact to the chassis.It's not a good idea to leave these units switched on unattended.

author: zapta
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 10:05:39 pm
content: Quote from: nixfu on December 18, 2015, 02:04:21 pmClones of what hakko model?

author: Alfons
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 10:40:35 pm
content: If you spend even a little, you should at least look that the fan is not sitting in the handle. There are inexpensive devices, where the fan is located in the station. This is usually more workable, durable and powerful. In addition, the head is to handle also smaller and lighter.

author: GreyWoolfe
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 11:50:54 pm
content: I have the YiHua 858 and it does what it's supposed to do and is cheap and cheerful, as it is said. I did take it apart first and there were no wiring issues. I also don't leave it on and unattended. In fact, I don't leave any soldering/desoldering equipment on and unattended.

author: nanofrog
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 18, 2015, 11:56:12 pm
content: Quote from: Alfons on December 18, 2015, 10:40:35 pm+1No vents to get clogged up with dust or covered by the operator's hand, starving it for air.I'd recommend looking for a Quick brand 957D in 220V, EU or UK plug (accustomed to DW = 110V & US/CAN plug, DS = 220V & EU plug, and DA = 220V & UK plug). Better built than the Aoyue, W.E.P. and other brands.Photos from 957DW teardown, courtesy ofblueskull.

author: rounsmith
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2015, 07:07:33 am
content: Quote from: Shock on December 18, 2015, 08:48:13 pmI bet because it's 858d model would be the same as it goes with the flashed firmware.

author: rounsmith
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2015, 07:12:28 am
content: Propably i will go for thishttp://www.ebay.de/itm/852D-ESD-PLCC-BGA-SMD-Hot-Air-Gun-Soldering-Rework-Station-Iron-Holder-5-Tips-/281504816510?hash=item418afe9d7e:g:iuIAAOSwGvhT2JPlIt;s a little more with soldering station(altough i have one that does the job for now).Now the problem is...let;s add some money on my paypal account since in greece we have Capital Control(Had some leftover paypal balance around 68 dollars from some paypal refund etc).Ty for your opinions though.P.s. If you can find me some other from europe post it here. I don;t want to buy from china since i am afraid of customs.

author: bianchifan
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 19, 2015, 08:29:08 am
content: Quote from: rounsmith on December 18, 2015, 09:09:40 amI got mine in spring from ebay seller troyonline for 37€Reason was Opensource-FW by madworm, please have a closer look in here:youyue-858d-some-reverse-engineering-custom-firmwareSources on Github:madwormmaugsburgerUnfortunately Youyue 858D+ wasn't seen for several month, at TROY's it was replaced byKaleep 858D+and no more DIN-like aviation connector.But you can also find aviation-less clones for less than 34EurI'm happily runnin' my own code (shurely based on Madworm's), temp will cool down to 40° C after usage.Quote from: nanofrog on December 18, 2015, 11:56:12 pmBullshit!Internal vents can clog too!In case you have to disassamble the whole shit.Due to the tube it's less comfort to handle and cries for a stand...