Ergonomic Office Chair???........ - Page 1
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author: Smokey
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2016, 09:29:48 pm
content: I'm sure there are some strong opinions on this.What's your favorite? Is it worth the money? What are the must have features/adjustments? Stories about how it changed your life... Lets hear em!To kick it off:http://ergohuman.comand of course the iconic Herman Miller Aeronhttp://www.hermanmiller.com/products/seating/performance-work-chairs/aeron-chairs.html:Edit:How about chairs for short people (around 5ft).

author: julianhigginson
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 02, 2016, 11:40:25 pm
content: I like active balance chairs. they keep your muscles engaged during your sitting period.I actually have some damage in my back from a fall when I was a kid, and keeping my back straight is very important. doing things to keep strength in my muscles around thee is also a big help. Normally my back is no problem at all, but if I don't look after it, then it goes into "pain" mode, and hurts a hell of lot for a few days.Cheapest option for me is an exercise ball, but they take up a lot of space, so I ended up buying one of these a few years ago.http://www.swopper.com/

author: Vgkid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 12:14:42 am
content: ^^^The muvman is really futuristic.

author: Unknown
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 03:32:31 am
content: Quote from: julianhigginson on November 02, 2016, 11:40:25 pmWhich one did you get? To my american eyes, they appear to be euro designed and sure enough they are German.http://www.aeris.de/

author: julianhigginson
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 04:55:14 am
content: I got Swopper classic. I picked it over a muvman (and a few similar ones) because I wanted something a bit substantial that wouldn't come crashing down when my baby started pulling himself up on it...Swopper Air seems new. I'm not sure exactly the difference between that and the classic. the seat cushion construction perhaps?

author: vodka
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 05:58:55 am
content: Quote from: julianhigginson on November 02, 2016, 11:40:25 pmI see the swopper very uncomfortable because the back is air without support ,besides that the back is on movement all time later or soon the back will begin to fatigue .Quote from: Vgkid on November 03, 2016, 12:14:42 amThe muvman is the classic stool's bar only the corporation adds a pivot with spring. It has a serious problem with its backrest, that is very low and if you don't go with careful , you may fall of backs.

author: FlyingHacker
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 06:48:56 am
content: I love my Herman Miller Aeron. I also got the third party Atlas headrest, but I find I rarely actually use said headrest.

author: julianhigginson
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 12:16:01 pm
content: Quote from: vodka on November 03, 2016, 05:58:55 amyou don't sit on one of these chairs the same way you sit in a normal office chair. The pillar under the seat is NOT fixed, it can wobble maybe 15-20 degrees from vertical. if you slouch back on that you will fall off (and if you try to rest things on the seat they more often than not fall off)you sit upright with your body's weight resting on your spine. And you constantly move about/rebalance with your whole body. your legs, your stomach muscles, your back muscles, your arms. When you first start using one, it's quite exhausting for your muscles and you get aches all over, and have to stop and go sit in a normal chair for a rest.... then your body builds up strength and stamina and it's fine.Also most research I've heard about relating to human physical activity says it's really really really bad to sit and not move at all for long periods of time, no matter how comfy or ergonomic your chair might be.Quote from: vodka on November 03, 2016, 05:58:55 amthat's not a backrest, it's a handle.I think you're missing the point of active balance seating...

author: saturation
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 02:53:55 pm
content: +1I got one back in 1995, cost over $1000 and they would sell only to a business or government via a PO, none to home, no check or CC. It resolved my back and wrist pain from sitting at computer for long times, 12-16 hrs at a stretch.I tried cheaper or various other models [ more expensive] to use at various worksites, but none work. Luckily in most jobs I have to move around quite a bit rather than sitting continuously.The 'mesh' backing makes it so I move less on the chair to 'cool' down my behind as chairs with cushions start to get warm, so my back is nearly always at ambient. I can adjust many points that avoid starting pain; in lesser chairs the pads are either not thick or soft or hard enough, the adjustments do not adjust enough, material shifts or change position on their own or with age.I bought it in 1995?? direct from HM, went to the loading dock and took it home before it got delivered to my office. The office would not pay for a $1000+ chair so getting a PO for over $500 item was fairly complex maneuver. Today, its very easy to buy one or a competitor even at that price.There is a redesigned version released last month by HM.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeron_chairMy chair is over 20 years old, its still like new, made in USA, it claims it still is.http://www.hermanmiller.com/about-us/press/press-releases/all/herman-millers-commitment-to-us-manufacturing-produces-three-american-made-accolades.htmlQuote from: FlyingHacker on November 03, 2016, 06:48:56 am

author: Bud
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 04:50:22 pm
content: Aeron is well made but i do not find it comfortable at all (we have full office of them). It also looks cheap to my taste because of the mesh. I know it helps with cooling the body but still.

author: vinicius.jlantunes
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 06:08:24 pm
content: Well, if you have lots of money - there is this Herman Miller Embody chair:http://store.hermanmiller.com/Products/Embody-ChairThe new campus the company I work for built recently is filled with these. I worked there for a few weeks and the chairs are great - even better than the Aeron (which they had in the prior US office) and Mirra 2 (which we have in our local Brazilian office) which are already very good.They also have these sit/stand desks which I thought was a bit of a gimmick at the beginning, but then turned into a big fan by the second or third day working there.They put a lot of effort in making sure we have good ergonomics and in our office here in Brazil we have physiotherapists going through the floors every day conducting stretching sessions. We can also call them anytime for help with adjusting our workstations or addressing any discomfort. I REALLY appreciate it all, truly makes a difference.

author: Fortran
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 07:13:28 pm
content: I'm using two fairly high-end ergonomic chairs on a daily basis.Not sure if they're available in the US, but the pros and cons should be universal.Chair #1: IKEA RyggskottMy "doing messy stuff" chair. The closest feature it has to ergonomic is that it's kinda flat to sit on.Pros: About as cheap as a plate of meatballs. Has wheels. Works great for short periods of time.Cons: Everything else.Chair #2: EFG SpliceThis is my lab-computer chair at home, and occasionally used when soldering for more then an hour.Pros: Comfy. Lots of adjustments. Back can be adjusted up and down (good for short and tall people), seat can be adjusted front and back, armrests are quick adjust.Cons: Quite stiff. If your ass only consists of bones and arteries like mine, your legs will go numb after a few hours unless you constantly switch seating position.Armrests only go up and down.Chair #3: KAB ExecutiveThis is or 24/7 chair at work.Pros: A lot more comfortable after 8-12 hours then anything else I've tried. Lots of adjustments.Cons: Back only adjust in angle. Seat doesn't adjust back and forth. Armrests are only adjustable in angle by a slow turning dial.So.. What are you using it for, and for what amount of time will you be sitting in it?To give a quite boring answer.. there is no way anyone can recommend a "perfect" chair to you. You'll need to use one for an extensive period of time to figure out if you like it or not.

author: cs.dk
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 08:07:51 pm
content: Sorry for OT:My primary office-chair are a leather seat from a scrapped Citroën XM.I can sit in it for days, it is multi-adjustable, both the "pillow in the back" (whats is it called?) and side-support, tilt, bag rest, etc.. (Electrical through, so adjust one time, and thats it. Else a PSU or battery is required). The height is on as gas cylinder as the chassis/frame for the seat is from a regular office-chair. I have mounted the original arm-rests from the donor-chair.Pros: Cheap if you own a scrap car + chair, and a welder. Really comfortable.Cons: Heavy, i really mean it serious!, the leather can make one sweat, if sitting for a long time.Picture from the internet, the seat are 100% the same.

author: jc101
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 10:03:25 pm
content: I went around a number of stores trying chairs when I built my office/lab. After trying a Herman Miller I was sold, way better than anything else I had tried. The price was a bit of a shocker though, but I found a company that sells reconditioned ones for 1/3 the cost and with a warranty.

author: julianhigginson
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 03, 2016, 10:37:08 pm
content: Quote from: cs.dk on November 03, 2016, 08:07:51 pmNow I really want to see photos of what they look like turned into office chairs!

author: ajb
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 03:46:55 pm
content: Quote from: julianhigginson on November 03, 2016, 04:55:14 amOkay, I was skeptical at first, but after watching the video it looks like a very good match for the way I tend to fidget around in an office chair. I have chronic disc problems in my lower back that are aggravated by spending too much time in a chair, so the core engagement aspect also sounds really good.How easy is it to adjust the height and move around on the floor? I'm frequently adjusting my chair up when working on the computer and down when doing small work on the bench. I can probably solve the up-and-down with a different desk setup, but would still need to move from one part of the bench to another, and seems like the dynamic motion would make moving the chair around difficult.

author: nctnico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: November 04, 2016, 04:02:09 pm
content: I know what is not a good office chair: the ones you buy from Ikea and Staples for around 100 euro/dollar. Utter crap so stay away from those!Every few years I buy a reconditioned office chair which costs around 1000 to 1500 euro/dollar when new. When needing a new chair I go to an office supply shop which deals in used chairs and I just go through their warehouse and try every chair they have and pick the one which feels most comfortable.

author: drummerdimitri
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 05, 2016, 12:31:06 pm
content: I have a Herman Miller Embody chair and it's worth every penny.It doesn't compare to anything I've ever used and by far the most comfortable chair I have and will ever own.Highly recommended for prolonged usage and still cheaper than a back surgery!

author: JonM
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: November 07, 2016, 02:30:58 am
content: I have used an Aeron chair in my primary home office since the late 1990's. Note that they come in three sizes. I got the large but suspect that the medium might have been better for me. The large model seems to push into my legs at the front of the seat. I use a seat cushion to mitigate that. However, that might be just my personal weirdness, where possible in cars I like to tilt the seat forward so that there is little pressure on my legs. I have used medium Aerons during visits to some company locations and they did seem to be better for me. I added a 3rd party headrest which I find essential to prevent neck injuries when falling asleep at the keyboard late at night. One of the control levers on my Aeron broke fairly early, I can still move the stub, but it is not easy.In the office I have at my daughter's house I use an IKEA Markus chair that is quite good (and reasonably priced). It has a high back so the dozing problem is not an issue. I did not install the arms for better compatibility with a keyboard tray. A review at thewirecutter.com includes the Markus.I have not yet found a perfect chair, but I am reasonably satisfied with the Aeron and Markus.Jon

author: julianhigginson
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: November 07, 2016, 05:00:33 am
content: Quote from: ajb on November 04, 2016, 03:46:55 pmthats the downside of swopper (and all the other stool chairs...) you need to have a higher desk because the angle of your legs need to be different to how they are on an office chair...When I got my swopper, I was lucky that my desk I had was already an adjustable workbench, so I just rebuilt it with the desk higher than it had been. That said it's not *much* higher than a normal fixed desk... maybe 10cm higher than my 2nd desk here.You can get swoppers with wheels, but I'm not really sure how they'd work.. you'd have to only rest your feet on the chair base, then. or it could go sliding out behind you if you have a smooth floor...

author: alonso31
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: July 23, 2020, 07:27:30 am
content: Honestly I prefer to use stools for an office table since they are usually more comfortable and if you combine them with a bar inside the office, in a good conversation it can help you to close good businesses since it is a little more comfortable I have informal but nice, it's just a matter of finding a store, I found thisBancos para barra