“I’m ‘famous’, you know nothing” - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: eti
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2022, 04:59:41 pm
content: VERY well known YouTuber, JerryRigEverything. His education history is business school type stuff, NOT ELECTRONICS. Suddenly he becomes “famous” tearing apart phones. YouTube “power” gives people delusions of grandeur. He’s no electronics engineer, he’s a bloke who’s refined the art of unscrewing things (like a lot of YouTube “engineers”)I comment that Apple prevent third party spares because they can compromise security (hidden silicon - look how much can be hidden inside a lightning plug! A whole microcontroller and more!)Stuck up dude tells me to “educate yourself”.Silicon parts ARE TINY. One could be easily covertly secreted inside a spare part. This chap clearly lacks experience in electronics.All these Apple chaps are CONSUMER LEVEL experienced. He’s clueless. Chinese folk are very clever and can hide stuff in microscopic places (think Huawei). By being supercilious and condescending, he’s simply demonstrating his inexperience.

author: wraper
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 24, 2022, 05:05:07 pm
content: Security argument is mostly BS. Also Apple prevents any spares, if you take original part from another phone it still needs to be paired.

author: hans
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2022, 05:23:55 pm
content: Quote from: eti on September 24, 2022, 04:59:41 pmAnd? Auto-didactic and self-taught is more important.There are plenty of people with wide span of interests. A hobby, education and profession can be a rational choice, it doesn't have to be a destiny.I remember a news article from years ago about a guy in NL completing Atheneum with a report full of 9/10 and 10/10 grades. You could say this guy is a genius and should go for an accelerated university program, double bachelor/masters program, and complete his PhD before he is 22 on-merit. Instead, he choose to become a bus driver.QuoteOnly if you let view numbers convince you so. Take people for what they say at every opportunity.QuoteUndoubtedly he not, as in some jurisdictions, engineer is a protected trade similar to doctor, etc. Certainly some people good in media creation and presentation have the edge on YouTube.QuoteWhat's insecure about replacing a battery or display? Sure maybe a touch sensor contains a cryptographic key which is on replacement is lost. But is that the ONLY way of protecting those keys? I'm not so sure.No, I think that Apple is doing the bigger scam for charging say X $ to replace a screen in store, or Y $ with a DIY tools kit on loan, where: 1 - Y/X < 0.1.Oh, and don't only include the Chinese. If you've read those NSA leaked documents, there are plenty of mentions about PCs that have been pulled off transport, where the motherboards USB+Ethernet PCB connector had been replaced by a spy-capable one, so the NSA could listen to Ethernet traffic etc.If you're really concerned about electronic security, the best way is to NOT use it. For all we know, Android and iOS have permanent microphone taps out that send all your conversations back to US.I've a colleague/postdoc that's into research for radio systems, 6G standards, etc. This guy doesn't even have a smartphone, as he pulls his Nokia dumbphone out of his pocket. He likes working on the theory and radio systems, but doesn't like the idea of having Google always with him.

author: magic
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2022, 05:26:02 pm
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author: janoc
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2022, 05:30:54 pm
content: Quote from: eti on September 24, 2022, 04:59:41 pmMaybe step back, breathe deeply in and out and then try to read back what you just wrote once more? Because to me it certainly comes across as "supercilious and condescending" - and a bit paranoid to boot.Apple has been a market control freak as long as it existed (why do you think there were always industry standards for things like interfaces and connectors - and then there was Apple ...). This has zero to do with the alleged Chinese espionage and pretty much everything with trying to own the market and lock the competition out. The same as Microsoft is doing, Google, Facebook and many others who have discovered that building walled gardens, locking users in and then milking both them for "services" and others for access is a very profitable business model.That Huawei panic about a spy chip being allegedly hidden in some Supermicro servers as published by Bloomberg has been pretty much debunked - no chips were ever found and the only source making those claims about their existence is Bloomberg, who has never presented any actual evidence.You know, there are much simpler ways to spy on people than laboriously hide hardware backdoors in millions of Apple phones - ever heard of TikTok? Or any of the myriads of apps loaded with advertising SDKs siphoning data left and right?And I hope you also realize that genuine Apple hardware is also made in China. So the cryptographic component authentication that locks out an independent repair shop from replacing e.g. the TouchID sensor with an aftermarket one would only allow a genuine China-made - and thus potentially a compromised one - to be installed.Sounds almost like a conspiracy to make sure that your iPhone is compromised - and remains compromisedThat doesn't mean we should underestimate the possibility of hardware backdoors - but that doesn't mean we should accept anticompetitive and anticonsumer features being sold to us as something "for our benefit" because "think of the evil (Chinese) hackers!" either.

author: CatalinaWOW
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2022, 05:52:48 pm
content: I'll pile on with Janoc. You, the OP, may have an electronics degree or other advanced education. You know what is possible. What you don't know is what is. Apple has stated that security is their reason. And it may well be. Or it may be a lie to cover their real reason. Or it may be a combination of several reasons, not all of which have been revealed to us.You are being as condescending as the YouTuber when you state your answer and dismiss his.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2022, 06:52:40 pm
content: Agree with CatalinaWOW here.And sorry but yes, safety (rather than security) *is* a true concern, whether you see other motives from the manufacturer or not. Yes replacing a LiPo battery *can* lead to catastrophic events if you don't know what you're doing or are being unlucky. Or just use the wrong parts. How many times will we have to say that Li-ion stuff is freaking dangerous. And even replacing a screen can be risky if you don't know what you're doing. Sounds silly for this but it's made of glass and if you get it shattered while replacing it and harm yourself. Sounds silly? It is. But does it happen? Definitely.So while I'm all for being able to repair stuff myself, I do it fully knowing that it's my full own responsibility. But I also know what happens on social media these days, and you can bet your ass that if some people screw up their repairs or even hurt themselves while doing so, they are likely to make a buzz out of it everywhere they can and it's likely to harm the vendor much more so than just claiming that they are so bad because they prevent you from repairing the products. I've seen enough on YT and similar to be convinced of that.Long story short: as a company, if you prevent customers from repairing their products, you're the ugly bad one. If you allow them to repair their products and customers consistently get bad repairs or harm themselves, some are going to blame you for this and make a million views about it. Almost guaranteed. "Sh*t, I repaired my phone and it blew up, Apple does that on purpose to prevent repairs while claiming they support that!"Yeah, tough period we're living.

author: eti
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: September 24, 2022, 08:47:59 pm
content: Not sure why any sane, non-qualified person would attempt a repair and risk TOTAL destruction of their damaged iPhone, vs sending it to Apple to have themdo it properlyI understand the niche community of 0.0000000000001% of electronics engineering-minded iPhone users can do it themselves, but in business, the prudent cater to the majority. It's all too easy when highly skilled in certain areas, to assume ALL users can achieve the same repair, and if not they "must be stupid".I am more than competent enough, but would STILL send it to Apple. My time is worth more than the expense, and I get peace of mind.

author: EEVblog
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: September 25, 2022, 08:43:38 am
content: Quote from: eti on September 24, 2022, 04:59:41 pmJelousy is a curse.