Siglent SDS2204X Mods - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / testgear

author: markus_jlrb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 05, 2018, 10:27:00 am
content: Dears,looking for someone who has already manage to access the mentioned device above(including all SDS2000X devices) via lan (telnet or ssh) in order to dump the FW.According to some internal infos, you could obtain the factory mode by using the sameway you need to enter debug mode of android, means press a certain button several times.If someone had already reveal this combination, would be fine to share this with all.Thanks for corresponding infos that will help.Markus

author: Arturoizer
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: June 06, 2018, 03:31:56 am
content: The important thing I need is to study these stories.

author: markus_jlrb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2018, 05:49:43 am
content: FYI,as I was not able to login via telnet on port 23, I had take a look into the programming guide.Programming Guide For Digital Oscilloscopes Serieshttp://www.siglent.com/ENs/down.aspx?id=28The port 5024 is open for commands like *IDN?, see page #12. but could mot be detect by nmapport scanner.Looking forward to get new details how to enter the OS.Markus

author: markus_jlrb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 06, 2018, 08:19:59 pm
content: FYI,according to a YT video the BW limitation of the 70MHz/100MHz/200MHz models(SDS207X, SDS210X, SDS220X) could be disabled by removing a SMD cap. fromthe front end amp.Is someone able to confirm this statement?Markus

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 07, 2018, 11:05:45 am
content: Quote from: markus_jlrb on June 06, 2018, 08:19:59 pmMaybe something along those lines.If you watch Dave's teardown @ ~18.30...........................https://www.eevblog.com/2016/03/31/eevblog-864-siglent-sds2000x-series-oscilloscope-teardown/

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2018, 09:19:03 pm
content: Answer me this:Does this scope model have a license input menu?Is it for Options and/or BW ?Does Siglent provide upgrade licenses for this equipment?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2018, 09:28:42 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on June 21, 2018, 09:19:03 pmYes.QuoteOnly Options.*QuoteNo.*In some FW Changelog a long time ago BW upgrade was listed but we haven't seen it since. It may have been removed or hidden.** This may have been in older SDS2000 not X

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2018, 09:32:52 pm
content: The available options are these ones?P/F-OUTAWGDecodeMSOPASWhen was the last version with a BW license menu? Or was it inserted in the same place as the options? Can you provide a picture of the Sistem Info with the options active/inactive?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2018, 09:41:04 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on June 21, 2018, 09:32:52 pmP/F-OUT I think is Pass/Fail and has been a free feature (not option) since.......forever AFAIK.There is NO visible BW upgrade feature in the GUI.markus_jlrb can provide the Option Info screenshot as it saves me needing to dig my SDS2304X out.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2018, 09:46:44 pm
content: Does the "insert option license" menu becomes disabled after all options active?Or is it still enabled?Markus,Attached is the Blackfin code of the last FW version available.

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 21, 2018, 09:53:44 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on June 21, 2018, 09:46:44 pmSorry I can't remember.My 2304X was fully optioned until PAS (Power Analysis) was included in a recent FW version. It still could be accessed in a special 'test' mode while PAS was still in beta development though.PAS is by far the most expensive of the options and has very powerful capabilities.

author: markus_jlrb
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 22, 2018, 05:10:47 am
content: @all,sorry I forgot my own thread ;-)will provide the requested infos over weekend.Markus

author: Scratch.HTF
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2018, 07:55:41 am
content: A software option could switch in or out a bandwidth limiting capacitor/filter.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2018, 08:37:23 am
content: Quote from: tautech on June 21, 2018, 09:53:44 pmtautech,Do you know any of your option licenses?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2018, 09:36:22 am
content: Quote from: tv84 on June 23, 2018, 08:37:23 amThe codes ? Sorry no, they were all factory installed when I ordered the 2304X.

author: bugi
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2018, 08:43:35 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on June 21, 2018, 09:32:52 pmJust in case these are still of interest, I attached relevant screenshots. (Latest firmware version.)I also do not know what happens to the "install" button once all option licenses are installed (since I also do not have the PAS license), but judging how it shows for the already installed options ("Installed" and still with the blue arrow, even if pushing that button actually does nothing in such case), I'd guess that button just keeps on showing for all options.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2018, 09:13:19 pm
content: Quote from: bugi on June 23, 2018, 08:43:35 pmbugi,What about the system info screen? Can you post, please?

author: bugi
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2018, 09:28:12 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on June 23, 2018, 09:13:19 pmThat one is called "System status" (iirc), and only shows:* startup times* software, FPGA, and hardware versions* product type ("SDS2304X")* serial no and scope idNothing that tells about options or bandwidth (except the product type numbering revealing the nominal bandwidth). Screenshot would not really tell anything more (except the actual values for each field, but they are not of any use here).I couldn't find any other informative pages or menus, but then again, I'm no pro, so I could have missed something somewhere.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2018, 09:50:47 pm
content: Format of the Scope ID?

author: bugi
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: June 23, 2018, 10:23:14 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on June 23, 2018, 09:50:47 pmApparently: four hex digits - four hex digits - four hex digits. E.g. f00b-123f-5d3a (and no, that is not my scope's id, just random digits in the same format).

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 03, 2018, 11:02:13 pm
content: Anyone with one of these scopes has a license for his Bandwidth upgrade?

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 03, 2018, 11:48:59 pm
content: Quote from: tv84 on August 03, 2018, 11:02:13 pmBW upgrades for 2kX are not available after sale. They've never been offered as an option by Siglent.

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: August 04, 2018, 07:34:01 am
content: Quote from: tautech on August 03, 2018, 11:48:59 pmThat may force a patch to the FW...

author: w0rksh0p
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: February 06, 2020, 02:54:20 pm
content: Hi tv84,how was it possible to patch the firmware to enable all options? I crawled through the archives but didn't find anything which is clear as soon as I learned that the SDS2kX has the Blackfin architecture (although you were able to run uClinux on it which is dead now).Regards ew

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 06, 2020, 07:27:12 pm
content: Quote from: w0rksh0p on February 06, 2020, 02:54:20 pmWelcome to the forum.Study reply #158 in this thread:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/unlocking-siglent-sds1104x-e-step-by-step/

author: Keith956
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 10, 2020, 10:45:47 am
content: Quote from: tautech on February 06, 2020, 07:27:12 pmThe python code in that post might work for the X-E version, but my SDS2204X has a 14 digit serial number, not 16 digit

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 10, 2020, 07:53:13 pm
content: Quote from: Keith956 on April 10, 2020, 10:45:47 amWelcome to the forum.Did you try your scope's Scope ID# ?

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 10, 2020, 08:26:30 pm
content: Quote from: Keith956 on April 10, 2020, 10:45:47 amYou mean 12 digit... Forget the python code.

author: Keith956
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 11, 2020, 07:31:45 am
content: Actually looking at the script, it contains the string 'SDS1000X-E' so I guess it won't work on a SDS2000X. Oh well...

author: tautech
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 11, 2020, 07:47:57 am
content: Quote from: Keith956 on April 11, 2020, 07:31:45 amThere should be further assistance in this thread:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ads-firmware-file-format/

author: tv84
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 11, 2020, 01:09:58 pm
content: Quote from: Keith956 on April 11, 2020, 07:31:45 amAs John would say: "something completely different..."

author: Keith956
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: April 12, 2020, 01:16:43 am
content: Ah OK, thanks for the link! Will take a while reading through that... Was not aware that the 2000X series used Blackfin.

author: yadt
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: November 02, 2020, 11:45:26 pm
content: Quote from: tautech on February 06, 2020, 07:27:12 pmI too am trying to figure out how to enable the options for a SDS2104X.I have read through that entire thread, and tried the python code attached to (and linked from) that thread, with no luck.I also read through the other linked threadhttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2204x-mods/msg3009796/#msg3009796, and found that it had a link leading back here:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ads-firmware-file-format/msg1622302/#msg1622302.I also found another thread with a post with firmware to change the product type (but requiring a hardware mod to actually increase the bandwidth)https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-hack/msg1848566/#msg1848566.I feel like I am missing something obvious, but going round in circles.Is there a way to find the option keys for an SDS2104X? (Ignoring the bandwidth upgrade hardware mod).