Simple dirty project for solving dog problems... :-/O - Page 1
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author: RPBCACUEAIIBH
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 12:24:41 am
content: Hi all!The problem is that my new room mate has a good for nothing small dog, keeps inside our room as he would be it's voluntary slave(the human stupidity never knows it's limits), and I hate dogs especially in house, but I don't really want to hurt it since I'm not a sadist, just driving it crazy, scaring the hell out of it, so that my room mate finally understands, that I don't want animals in the house even if the owner allows it...I already told him, to keep it tied outside, at least not in the room, since it's a house with big garden, but he says that "she"(as in the damned dog) would die tied outside!(What I obviously can't believe, and I would never talk about IT as a person...)So knowing the problem please give me ideas, circuits, or even anything other preferably unnoticeable by human, that won't harm that woeful dog, but can be used as part of my a dog annoyment project.As for start I was thinking about an ultra sound solution, I have made some experiments but I have not found yet the right frequency that annoys the dog...As a second solution(unfortunately visible), when I was a kid, I was scaring the neighbour's dog at night with a camera's blitz, so I know that a sudden bright flash will scare it, but I can only use that when the dog's "slave" is at work...

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 12:32:28 am
content: Have you tried being a bit less easily bothered?

author: andyturk
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 12:34:33 am
content: Sounds like the OP is the one who should be tied up outside.

author: RPBCACUEAIIBH
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 01:01:14 am
content: QuoteWell I tried, but it's "slave" can't even teach it to stay away from my stuff... It jums up to my bad, I can't tolerate that... Believe me this way is much less painful then the one I offered to my room mate... (Using my paralizing gas spray on it if once more it jumps up to my bad...)Quote

author: andyturk
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 01:09:33 am
content: Quote from: RPBCACUEAIIBH on May 22, 2013, 01:01:14 amOP == "Original Poster", i.e. *you*.

author: RPBCACUEAIIBH
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 01:12:07 am
content: Quote from: andyturk on May 22, 2013, 01:09:33 amWell I understand it as Owner Person as in the dog's owner...

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 01:12:54 am
content: Oh for god's sake, just help train it to get off your bed. Should you have to do that? No, not really. But compromises are part of sharing a space. Grow up.Quote from: RPBCACUEAIIBH on May 22, 2013, 01:01:14 amWhat do you think OP means?

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 01:16:50 am
content: Quote from: RPBCACUEAIIBH on May 22, 2013, 12:24:41 amsadism, n. the tendency to derive pleasure, especially sexual gratification, from inflicting pain,suffering, or humiliationon others.Alternately:sadism, n. (2) a delight in cruelty

author: RPBCACUEAIIBH
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 01:23:31 am
content: Well I didn't know what OP really mean, and I won't kill you for your opinion, but my opinion is that animals should not be kept in house... Neither dogs nor cats, nor anything else... Outside I have nothing against animals. If you don't like what I posted go away and leave me be... It's for those who like this kind of posts...

author: c4757p
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 01:25:50 am
content: I see nothing wrong with your opinion that dogs shouldn't be kept indoors. That's your choice, of course. Personally, I don't want cats in my house - I enjoy the distinct lack of urine odor. But you want to exact revenge on a dog because its owner let it in the house. That is cruel and childish at best. It's not the dog's fault. If you want to annoy the piss out of theowner, I'd still probably think that's childish, but not cruel and sadistic. You're being an asshole.

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 04:29:18 am
content: Quote from: RPBCACUEAIIBH on May 22, 2013, 01:23:31 amYou said you don't want dogs in the house, even though the owner of the building allows it.The real answer is that you are not the owner of the building, so you don't make the rules. If you want to make rules about what is and is not allowed in the building, then go earn some more money, buy a building, and then you can make the rules.Until that time, your actions *are* sadistic, petty, immature, and passive-aggressive. Grow a paid of balls and confront your roommate, or move out. Being too afraid to settle it with your roommate and resorting to going on the internet to find ways to torment the dog belies some serious character flaws. I think you should get psychological help, or man up and grow a pair....and tormenting the dog is almost certainly illegal and you could face serious repercussions for doing so - as you should.

author: lapm
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 07:13:37 am
content: Tells a lot about you that you consider torturing small dog. Personally i recommend trying those little things on yourself maybe it teaches some compassion and empathy for you.Have you realized that poor dog has no choice in situation. Its the owner of dog that's to blame.

author: stev.dk
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 08:09:25 am
content: Go wrap some unisolated wire round your balls, and plug it in mains. It'll really scare the hell out of the dog, when you fry yourself.

author: RPBCACUEAIIBH
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 08:54:52 am
content: Crap... this is what I get if I post something pissed...No solutions, but a lot of sarcasm which makes me more angry...Never mind, I won't search any more less painful solution, I think I just keep my given word, which means that I will use that gas spray on it... If I'm a childish sadistic asshole in everyone's opinion, then so shell it be! (I'm sure there are more, who won't talk to not make themselves ridiculous, but feel the same) What difference does it make? I can change my mind this time, but I can't change my way of thinking. Congratulations to all of you that have posted! You just condemned that little dog to a more painful fate... I shout up...Thanks for everyone!This topic can be closed!

author: eKretz
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 08:57:25 am
content: I doubt you will find many on your side on this one. Is there some reason you don't just close your bedroom door if you don't want the dog on your bed?Hmm, upon re-reading, it appears that you sleep in the same room as the dog owner? That's interesting. The only thing I might recommend to you is to use a water spray bottle and squirt the dog if it gets on your bed. That will sometimes break them of bad habits. You could also keep a piece of newspaper and just crinkle/rustle it when the dog tries to get on the bed...that usually works well after a few times also. You can't blame the others for not wanting to help you to be cruel. If you had asked for a circuit that might make noise when it sensed the dog's motion on the bed to frighten it a wee bit you might have gotten a better response. When you sound like you want to impale or electrocute the dog and it's owner when they apparently aren't breaking the owner's rules, you can understand the negative response.

author: firewalker
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 09:03:43 am
content: Teach the dog that it shouldn;t enter your space. There several ways to accomplish that. E.g make the usage of your space unpleasant for the dog. Loud noise when enters your room, loud ultrasounds (search for dog killer) etc.If you use the same room with the owner, just throw the dog out of the room and close the door. Maybe you could legally discard the roommate and find another one.Alexander.

author: RPBCACUEAIIBH
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 09:15:01 am
content: QuoteThis was in my first post... It is not clear enough?BTW thanks for the ideas... I appreciate that... and yes you understood well, we live in the same room.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 11:28:59 am
content: As someone who has had to repair electronics damaged by pets, I can sort of see what the OP feels.Maybe something like an electric fence around your stuff might help.

author: dr_p
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 11:46:43 am
content: I don't think anything will solve this decently, except either the OP or dog+owner moving out.

author: RPBCACUEAIIBH
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 02:38:05 pm
content: Quote from: dr_p on May 22, 2013, 11:46:43 amYes... I thought about that too... the problem is that I'm here from October, he came about 2 month ago and was no problem with him, till he brought that dog about 2 week ago... Since then, I no longer feel safe...The room is full of my stuff moving would be difficult, on the other side he has a bigger bag and the dog that's all... He is a man with a stable workplace now, I'm just a student with occasional smaller jobs but mostly sustained by my parents...

author: Mechatrommer
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 03:28:01 pm
content: ahh another interesting "annoying dog" project! coincidetally i just accomplished the latest project this afternoon (read on!) after the annoying dog keep scarying kids (including mine) passing by on cycles. yesterdays few female kids got scared the shit out to pass that lane. as someone here suggested,ultrasound beeperbut i guessed its too "uncivilized" (or maybe difficult ee project for me), so i have better one today. as i bought few packs offireworkfrom grey market few months ago to scare monkeys out of my garden (yes seriously i'm not kidding, stray monkeys from father, mother to sons and siblings and friends in one big family looking for food and mess around with my beanstalk farm). we light the firework (small stick like 1 inch length) and throw it somewhere (specifically in the same vector to the animal's direction), few seconds BOOM. so i did just that this afternoon on the damned dog. "it" went jump all over in panic for few seconds, ahh "amusement centre"! the owner opened the gate to let the cursed dog in, victory! if you want to be more "civilized" you may try"chemically devastating consumable food"or this...Electric Automatic Cross Bowplease people. if you want to highlight how uncivilized i am, save your breath, keep it to something elseyou dont have a clue of where i'm standing.

author: Rascal
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 03:50:46 pm
content: I have in the past made and used ultra sonic deterrents with only limited success. Unfortunately the animal becomes use to the noise and eventually realises it poses no harm or risk.Maybe you should get yourself a guard dog to protect your side of the room. And maybe a couple of air fresheners as well.

author: Corporate666
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 04:06:02 pm
content: Quote from: RPBCACUEAIIBH on May 22, 2013, 02:38:05 pmLike I said, why don't you stop being a pussy and talk to the man face to face?If you have tried that and he ignores you, then he probably realizes what kind of person you are and chooses to ignore you. Grow a pair of balls and deal with the man himself, rather than being a chicken and trying to take out your anger on a defenseless animal.Oh, and grow up and move out from your parents support too - then you can decide who you live with and what the terms of that living arrangement are.

author: MacAttak
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 04:45:50 pm
content: I'm very sorry I clicked to read this thread.It takes a special kind of spineless scumbag to even consider taking out frustrations on a helpless pet. I can tell you that if I was your roommate and you did any of those things to my dog, you wouldn't make it to a computer to post about it on internet forums. Pets are like children to people who have them (and some of us have pets because we CANT have children). Think about the reaction a father has when his son/daughter are intentionally harmed.This thread needs to be locked and deleted. You are asking for help with doing things that are morally objectionable at best, and very likely criminal in many parts of the world.

author: Dave
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 04:46:44 pm
content: Am I the only one around here who would freak out, if a dog was jumping on my bed? It's disgusting to even think about that.But you guys are right about confronting the room mate. Tell him that you will not tolerate his dog jumping on your bed and touching your stuff. And if he ignores you, find some dog crap in the park and put it under his pillow. That should get the message through.

author: ddavidebor
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2013, 05:21:58 pm
content: Yes, you are

author: RPBCACUEAIIBH
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2013, 01:04:33 am
content: Quote from: Mechatrommer on May 22, 2013, 03:28:01 pmwell I would prefer not hurting that animal... my intention is not to hurt it, but to make it clear to the owner that our room is no place for a dog...Quote from: Corporate666 on May 22, 2013, 04:06:02 pmWell I talked not once, not twice, but many times in the last 2 week, and he just ignores me...About growin up... I'm on it, but that's not so easy... it takes timeeeeee...Quote from: MacAttak on May 22, 2013, 04:45:50 pmWell I'm sorry if you can't have children, but I can't agree with the concept of pet = children I would still advise having a poor orphan child, but no, men like you would rather choose a dog, because you're too afraid of having trouble with a child...pets are "cheaper", never grow up, and never talks, so people who thinks like you are just covering up your own shame with a pitiful pet so in my opinion people who thinks like you are that "special kind of spineless scumbag" as you say... (Sorry it's your words not mine...)Quote from: ddavidebor on May 22, 2013, 05:21:58 pmNo he isn't... Why do you think I even posted this in the first place...

author: m12lrpv
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2013, 03:31:37 am
content: A small shared room is no place for a dog and it's animal cruelty for the roommate to be keeping a dog in such an environment.The OP is wholly justified in his disgust at having to put up with this situation.

author: IanJ
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 23, 2013, 11:09:20 am
content: Quote from: RPBCACUEAIIBH on May 23, 2013, 01:04:33 amSo are you saying it's an option you are considering..........I hope not!Ian.

author: vk6zgo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2013, 11:23:41 am
content: Quote from: RPBCACUEAIIBH on May 22, 2013, 02:38:05 pmI think we have it here--you "no longer feel safe".This implies that you are afraid of dogs.( either that or your room mate becomes psychotic when you offend his dog!)There is nothing wrong with being afraid of dogs,lots of people are.You don't have to cover up with stuff about the dog being annoying,disgusting,etc.Anyway,the best thing is to tell your room mate.Maybe,if he is a moron,he will call you a wimp,but he may be terrified of spiders,---or mice!He was pretty insensitive to just introduce the dog without asking you how you felt about it.Freaking out the dog won't help,as the more agitated the dog becomes,the more it will annoy,or frighten,you!I like dogs,but some people are really silly with them,& force them on everybody.It looks like you may have run into somebody like that.About tying the dog outside,that just transfers the annoyance to the neighbours--the dog will shriek & wailall day.Dogs are not machines with fur,they are seriously dumb compared to humans,but they do have feelings.And yes, a female dog is commonly (& conveniently) called "she", not "IT" just as a human female is not just called a "human".

author: RPBCACUEAIIBH
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: May 23, 2013, 01:40:54 pm
content: Well that's true that I fear dog's in general since I was attacked many times when I was little kid, but this dog I don't fear... it shakes for a half hour or so and runs under my bad if I even lift my hand and watch it scary, or if it sense someone at the roof(which is often here), as I said it's a good for nothing little dog, but I can't tolerate it in my bad and at my stuff... it's just creepy and pitiful... As I said, I don't wanna hurt it, because it won't cause me any joy, but I want to get rid of it. Outside I don't care what it does... I hate it, that's a fact, but the first thing that makes me this angry the way the owner treats it and how he speaks about it, it's just so disgusting... How can an adult man be that stupid creepy no one?!The other thing that makes me angry the fact that if I rise my voice makes people look at me as a criminal, and that's not only on forum...