What is a heaviest 'desktop' you ever own or work(-ing) on? - Page 1
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author: olkipukki
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timestamp: October 23, 2019, 09:39:14 pm
content: subj?I recently moved around an updated case with new components inside and thought it really heavy...wait a minute, I thought, nothing can beatIBM IntelliStation Power 285that used to be over 40 kg (!!!!!) and loud asserver stacks don't countUpdated:Everything that fall in the following classification:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_computerCode:"A desktop computer is a personal computer designed for regular use at a single location on or near a desk or table due to its size and power requirements. "with amendments "personal computer designed" => "personalcomputer(re-)designed"

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 01:27:13 am
content: Haven't seen one in real life, but the multi CPU workstations with phase change cooling must weigh a lot.

author: Nominal Animal
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 03:02:32 am
content: Funnily enough, I prefer large heavy wooden cases, as it is easier to keep them silent, even when turning a couple of hundred to a few hundred watts into waste heat.It is particularly relevant with spinning disk drives, if you have any locally. (Use a large drive chassis with extra mass for dampening, and suspend that on foam and/or rubber, to isolate the noise they generate.) Typical DVD-RW drives are harder to quieten.

author: Black Phoenix
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 03:33:37 am
content: Well some years ago, way back on 2008 my desktop was heavy as hell too:Coolermaster Stacker 832;Drive Caddy with 4x 146GB 10000RPM WD1500HLFS in Raid 10;DVD Reader and DVD Writer Drives;AMD Athlon FX-60 Skt 939 with a Zalman 9700 LED cooler;Asus A8N32-SLI with 2x Nvidia GeForce 9800 GX2, so basically 4 GPUs in 2 Slot PCI-e in SLI;Corsair HX1000 Power Supply;That thing would weight a ton, to be sincere, just the case was around 15kg, the CPU cooler close to 800g, the PSU 2kg, etc... More that 25Kg all the stuff on the tower.I still kept the Tower for all this years, for some day a new build, with custom inside panels to modernise the tower itself for the current market trends.

author: mengfei
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 08:35:39 am
content: I have a Gigabyte Poseidon case which is fully loaded, with bays filled with drives & is around 20KG+!had this for like 10yrs now & my last cpu update was a Phenom which i should probably change to ryzen nowcase alone is already 9KG! Lan Party anyone?lol

author: martin1454
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 08:43:39 am
content: I used to have a big-ass homemade PC.It was taller than from the floor to my desk, weighed around 45-50kg and was not fun to moveIt was a custom water cooled PC built in a Corsair 900D cabinet.2x 480mm radiator1x 240mm radiator2L resivour2x GTX780 with water blockI7 4770K32GB ram1,5TB SSD and then a shit ton of mixed HDD for a total of 9TB storrage.

author: zzattack
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 11:21:40 am
content: Bought a coolermaster cosmos 2 many years back, because I thought it looked like a high quality build, with lots of room for upgrades, while being silent. Reviews great and all, couldn't go wrong with it. Except that the bare thing is 22kg, once stuffed with some hard disks and a massive CPU cooler we're nearing 30kg's.Changing stuff on the inside is supposed to be super easy due to the swinging doors, but in my case this is purely a downside. The PC is next to my desk besides the wall, so there's nowhere for the doors to go. I have to unplug everything first so all in all... not the best purchase ever.

author: Rerouter
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 12:05:56 pm
content: 4x 2.5" SSD's = 0.3 kG19x 3.5" Hard Drives = 12.4 KgFractal design R5 Case = 12.8 KgAdditional Drive Bays = 2 KgNoctura D14 Cpu Cooler = 1.1 KgPSU = 3 KgGPU = 2 KgRaid Card = 0.6 KgFans = 1 KgMotherboard = 1 KgSata Cables = 0.6KgPSU Cables = SomethingSo current workstation is at least 37 Kg, and yes you do need to to search long and hard for a short enough high end GPU to allow that many drive bays in that case.Also quiet enough to sleep next to with the sides off.

author: Ampera
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 01:43:43 pm
content: If you mean servers aren't allowed, then I suppose my heaviest desktop machine would be my iMac G3. Not fiercely impressive in weight, but CRTs aren't light either.If servers /are/ allowed, then my IBM eServer 235 would win the heavy metal box game within my collection. It's a 4U server with dual 600W PSUs, Ultra320 SCA-80 hotswap bays for up to 6 drives (max capacity 300GB each). It's honestly my neatest system, with dual IA-32 P4-era Xeons, real PAE support up to 12GB of RAM, dual RS-485 and gigabit ethernet, lotsa PCI-X, and its most interesting party trick, hot-swappable PCI-X (which I believe not only requires the slot/controller to support it, but the card and OS to support it as well, restricting it primarily to NICs and maybe HBAs on Server 2003).

author: legacy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 03:42:32 pm
content: We don't have a lot of machines of our property, we have some but they are our customers' property, and the heaviest desktop we have is an HP C8K. It's weight is around 20Kg, and it's not too bad.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 24, 2019, 05:21:52 pm
content: My current PC workstation is about 25kg. Which is already heavier than I'd like.I don't think I have ever owned a computer than was actually heavier than this. Desktop PC components, with the exception of storage (SSDs are much lighter than HDDs), have not really decreased in weight. Rather the opposite in fact.I've occasionally worked on servers much heavier than this overall, but they were all rack-mount, so technically, not desktop machines.

author: mc6800
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timestamp: February 11, 2020, 04:58:14 pm
content: I'm not sure it counts as a desktop (it was floor standing), but in the late 70s I worked on a Sharp BA2700 "business computer". This beast had dual 8" disks, a 25"+ printer platen with two sets of tractor feeders, a magnetic card reader, keyboard, and a numeric display (no fancy CRT here!).The usual approach was to boot-load via the card reader, and then continue reading code from one of the disk drives. Alternatively a small boot loader could be loaded using the numeric keypad and special purpose keys.

author: MarkF
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2020, 06:39:06 pm
content: SGI Octane2 @ 54 lbsAlso, the Onyx2

author: Cerebus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2020, 09:08:34 pm
content: I used to have an Apollo dn3500 on my desk (along with an RS/6000 and a SparcStation 1+). The Apollo's system unit weighed 21.4 kg and the 19" monitor that came with it 38.6 kg for a grand total of 60 kg (132 lb).

author: reboots
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 11, 2020, 10:51:07 pm
content: The largest computer I've ever used for a personal desktop was an NCR 3434, a curious IBM PS/2 compatible server with a 486DX33, 32MB of RAM, a whole lot of Micro Channel slots, and six full-height SCSI drive bays. I substituted a 100MHz i486 OverDrive for a much-needed speed boost, installed several ~300MB Maxtor full-height SCSI drives, and made a cool mounting sled and harness for three third-height(!) 2x SCSI CD-ROM drives I found. For a time I was one of a few people in the world running MCA Linux, patched against the 2.0.29 kernel supplied with Slackware 3.2. It was a very reliable workstation, if extremely loud and warm.I never weighed it, and it wasn't exactly a desktop, being designed to match the height and depth of a typical desk for use alongside. Someone else's pictures of a 3434 here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Computer_Systems#Partners

author: Halcyon
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timestamp: February 11, 2020, 10:55:05 pm
content: My HP ML350 - It's over 30 KG.

author: bsudbrink
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timestamp: February 11, 2020, 11:07:53 pm
content: Just so I'm clear here..Desktop, all on top of one desk:Altair 8800b (big linear power supply, heavy steel box)Dual 8 in floppy drives (big linear power supply, heavy steel box)10 inch 20 megabyte hard drive (big linear power supply, heavy steel box)Teletype KSR33 (big and heavy, even without the paper tape punch/reader)13 inch color TV set (for DAZZLER graphics)Must be 200 pounds, easy... And, of course, fans everywhere.

author: pcmad
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2020, 02:45:06 am
content: 2 full u36 rackmounts holding full san SCSI array (mostly hp msa 1000 each array had 14 3 1/3 10k drives each est total 200-400 drives) 18+ servers (mostly hp prolant servers) plus supporting hardware it took a estate car and trailer to transport it let just say car and trailer was on its ass

author: Cerebus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 12, 2020, 11:12:13 am
content: People are stretching 'desktop system' to breaking point here: obvious desk-side boxes like the ML350, whole racks full of kit...

author: bd139
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timestamp: February 12, 2020, 11:30:37 am
content: Sun SPARCserver 1000E. Was jammed with 4x XDbus cards with 2x 100MHz hyperSPARC processors on each. Fully stacked with 2Gb of RAM. This had an external SPARCstorage array of 2.1Gb SCSI disks. System unit was around 35kg and disk array was about the same!I skip dived most of the unit which was 3 years old at the time and managed to get a keyboard and monitor off yahoo auctions for virtually nothing. It had cost the company just under £900,000 when they bought it (with disk arrays - not sure how populated it was as the arrays were empty when I got it and I only took one enclosure) and was worth £800 on the open market when I shifted it. Crazy depreciation around then!!!And yes it departed pretty damn quickly when I got the electricity bill.System unit and disk array:Mine also had a 21" Trinitron (weighed enough on its own!) and the usual sun type 5 keyboard and mouse as well as a whole crate of manuals.

author: MarkF
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2020, 12:26:56 am
content: Quote from: Cerebus on February 12, 2020, 11:12:13 amNot at all...This is stretching it!And it doesn't even include the 2nd room.

author: nigelwright7557
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2020, 01:51:05 am
content: I have a very light system, not even a plug in graphics card. Saves a fortune on electric bills.A bit slower than a separate graphics card but usable.The worst PC systems for weight usually have a built in monitor.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 13, 2020, 03:20:11 am
content: Quote from: Cerebus on February 12, 2020, 11:12:13 amWhat's wrong with using an ML350 server as a "desktop" machine? It's extremely capable (albeit a bit noisy). Most people I know who have normal consumer mid-tower cases place them on the floor, does that mean they aren't desktops either?

author: jake111
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timestamp: February 13, 2020, 03:31:38 am
content: I have a Leading Edge MP-1676L with the original keyboard and green screen TTL monitor all new in box. I've been working up the nerve to open it all but I kind of want to find someone who has a DC-2011E in good shape with EGA monitor who would trade. I don't know how much it all weighs but it must be more than 60lbs total.

author: george.b
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timestamp: February 13, 2020, 06:10:39 am
content: I have an HP9000/847 like this one:I'm not sure how much it weighs, but I think it's in the vicinity of 50kg, especially with the full height 5.25" hard drives. Granted, it's a deskside, not a desktop. My heaviest real desktop is one like this:According to the manual, it weights 18kg/40lb.(None of the pics are mine, can't be arsed to go take them, found some on the internet for illustration purposes only).

author: jake111
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timestamp: February 13, 2020, 06:16:48 am
content: Quote from: george.b on February 13, 2020, 06:10:39 amUmmm, I believe I have at least 2 spare power supplies as well as a box of hard drives still in caddies for your HP.... And also probably a full set of Novell Netware 3.x manuals and disks? The Novell might be gone, can't remember, but I still have these supplies and drives. Lol.

author: rdl
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2020, 10:50:38 am
content: Does it count if it's a stack?Here is my setup from 20 years ago. This photo was taken in spring 2000 with my first digital camera. The machine on the floor is actually the first I ever built myself. I have no idea how much it weighed. The case was a Supermicro SC-750 and probably 15 lbs. or so by itself. Processor was Athlon XP 2200 or something like that.On top is a custom Micron PentiumPro system which was pretty heavy also. It was the second computer I bought and I still have it stored away in the bedroom closet.

author: NivagSwerdna
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2020, 10:56:27 am
content: Xerox Danelion... used these at Universityhttp://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/xerox-8010/index.htmland a bit later at work...Xerox Daybreak (aka 6085... aka Star)http://toastytech.com/guis/star3.htmlPSThe Pilot/Viewpoint environment, one of the first proper windowing development environments, came with lots of examples and contributed gagets... in fact a lot of the fun was developing these gadgets... my favourite was VP Cruise Missile which would run in the background and every now and again you would hear an incoming whistling sound and a cruise missile would appear and hit one of the desktop icons and move it off the screen (presumeably into a folder)... a great way to keep your desktop from getting cluttered.The later Star had the on/off switch exactly at knee level so every now and again you would accidentally turn it off with your knee and lose all your work.It was very fun to program, in MESA, and I remember it had a 7 phase compiler for which the progress was shown by a rotating six sided dice... never sure what happened to one of the phases.

author: Cerebus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2020, 12:30:37 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on February 13, 2020, 03:20:11 amThe context is the OP asking about theheaviestdesktop system people have worked on/with because of their encounter with a 40kg desktop system. The original post implies that the form factor is important. Given that, it's a bit lame to rapidly morph it into "what's the heaviest computer you've ever used as if it was a desktop system". Do that and all us old hands who've used any of the early workstation systems like, say, the Three River's Perq or who've had exclusive use of minicomputers or mainframes will hold all the trumps.

author: MarkMLl
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timestamp: February 13, 2020, 12:40:20 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on February 12, 2020, 11:30:37 amInteresting machines. They were basically a Xerox PARC architecture with SPARCs grafted in, I managed to get Linux (2.2?) running SMP and got flamed by the kernel maintainer because he didn't like an assumption I'd made as a temporary fix for his bus-initialisation mistake. I'm not sure but I think that with an external JTAG controller you had a lot of control over what the bus was actually doing, Cray fully exploited that with the CS6400 and later designs which found their way back into Sun.However, as somebody has pointed out they weren't exactly desktop machines: particularly when that extra box was fully-loaded with something like 64 drives, and particularly if there was a big Sun CRT sitting on the top.Neither, for that matter, are various standalone accounting machines, some of which had a significant amount of electromechanical stuff particularly when golfball printers were popular.MarkMLl

author: pcmad
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: February 13, 2020, 03:18:32 pm
content: Quote from: Cerebus on February 12, 2020, 11:12:13 amwe are nerds anything goes servers and be used as i desktop pc

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: February 13, 2020, 09:44:24 pm
content: Quote from: Cerebus on February 13, 2020, 12:30:37 pmBut using your mentality, a laptop isn't a laptop unless it's physically used on the lap. Just because a desktop doesn't physically sit atop a desk, doesn't make it less of a desktop PC. I do agree that once you start getting into anything require a rack, it no longer meets the definition.

author: george.b
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timestamp: February 13, 2020, 10:15:04 pm
content: Quote from: jake111 on February 13, 2020, 06:16:48 amYou might be thinking of a different machine, then - as far as I know, there was no PA-RISC port of NetWare.Fortunately, my power supplies are in working order, and when I do replace the hard drives, I'll just throw a quieter, faster, smaller, more modern SCSI drive in there

author: Cerebus
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timestamp: February 13, 2020, 11:42:33 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on February 13, 2020, 09:44:24 pmI said "form factor", not 'thou musteth useth thine computer on thy desktop for it to qualifieth'.

author: Halcyon
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timestamp: February 14, 2020, 12:03:22 am
content: Quote from: Cerebus on February 13, 2020, 11:42:33 pmSure, so how does something like a HP ML350 not qualify? Looks like a desktop PC to me.

author: SL4P
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2020, 03:58:06 am
content: About 15 years ago, I had an old sixties corporate style office desk, all steel - including the laminated top.It was extremely heavy, I’d guess around 100Kg+I only moved it once, but it was easy to ground, and was great for hammering or bending stuff, it was virtually indestructible.

author: olkipukki
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timestamp: February 14, 2020, 08:53:30 am
content: It seems like a bit confusion and misunderstanding regarding 'desktop' definition, sorry that not been defined initially.Some follows to Cambridge dictionaryhttps://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/desktop-computerCode:"a computer that fits on a desk but that is not easily moved from place to place ",othershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_computerCode:"A desktop computer is a personal computer designed for regular use at a single location on or near a desk or table due to its size and power requirements. "I think wiki is one we are after.with some amendments "personal computer designed" => "personalcomputer(re-)designed" to fill a void for demanded usersP.S.If you sit close to a rack, I will buy a beer (or cup of tea) and would love to hear your story - why you been locked in a server room on daily basis

author: SL4P
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timestamp: February 14, 2020, 09:26:39 am
content: Just having some fun ? 😉😉A bit earlier, I had a PDP-11/23 on my desk at home...

author: olkipukki
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timestamp: February 14, 2020, 10:05:21 am
content: Quote from: SL4P on February 14, 2020, 09:26:39 amWow, just wow - 100+ kg on your desk?!

author: Ian.M
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 14, 2020, 11:10:37 am
content: The original 'desktop' was a big beige box on your desk with its monitor on top of it. Classic examples of that form factor were the original IBM PC/XT and PC/AT. Its questionable whether computers built in full tower cases can be regarded as desktop machines.I've got a 486 DX2-80 PC built in an original IBM PC/AT case, with all slots full, some with cards with daughterboards and all drive bays occupied with 5 1/4" form factor drives. As the weight of a PC/AT in standard fit-out (1xHDD, 1xFDD) was 19.5 Kg, and I've just weighed a half height 5 1/4" FDD at 1.25 Kg that system's gotta be around 25 Kg just for the system unit.

author: Cerebus
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timestamp: February 14, 2020, 01:17:54 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on February 14, 2020, 12:03:22 amNearly 800mm deep and it'll fitonyour desk? With a keyboard in front of it? Pull the other one it. I've had difficulty getting these to fit into racks because they're so deep - deeper in fact than most standard 600 x 800 data centre racks will take - you have to go up to a 600 x 1000 or 800 x 1000 rack to get them in there.A more realistic picture with the front door open, showing 24 31/2" drive bays:

author: bd139
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timestamp: February 14, 2020, 01:51:41 pm
content: Yeah that's a big much. My desktop PC is 400mm deep and that sticks out from under the desk. Even my old Z820 was 520mm deep and that was about as large as a workstation chassis gets. The ML350 is a floor standing server not a desktop.The Sun 1000E I mentioned earlier was a deskside as they called it. You could get a vertical mount so it could sit beside it.

author: Halcyon
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timestamp: February 14, 2020, 10:47:51 pm
content: Quote from: Cerebus on February 14, 2020, 01:17:54 pmMy desk is 1000mm deep, so yes. But I don't put it on my desk, it's on the floor under the desk so it's not taking up room on the tabletop.Also, generally if you have a tower case sitting on a desk, you would place the keyboardnextto the tower, not in front of it.

author: NiHaoMike
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2020, 02:14:23 am
content: If a tower or rack PC isn't a proper "desktop", the heaviest desktop PC probably will be a literal desktop (furniture) that happens to have PC parts in it. I've seen a few of those case mod projects, but it seems like bolting a PC to the underside of a normal desk gives almost the same result with less effort.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: February 15, 2020, 02:36:31 am
content: 20+ years ago we used to have a pretty heavy full height tower (about 20kg) with eight or ten bays in total and it was terribly noisy, a Dual Pentium II 300MHz on a large Supermicro board with several 220VAC fans and a few Seagate Cheetah 15krpm Ultra Wide SCSI 2 drives.It was incredibly fast for the time, but the silence after power down was gold.

author: Haenk
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timestamp: February 22, 2020, 11:32:02 am
content: A ML350 would rather qualify as "deskside", as do the SGI ONYX etc. The ML350 (I have one in our server room, with stands, so not rack mounted) - you'd need a really large table, or you no space left to work on itThen it is not really suited for office use, it's just too noisy.

author: Halcyon
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timestamp: February 23, 2020, 03:19:54 am
content: Quote from: Haenk on February 22, 2020, 11:32:02 amYou don't notice how noisy it is, until it's turned off.

author: lwatts666
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timestamp: February 23, 2020, 06:40:07 am
content: I did some software development and testing on a pair of Oracle/Sun M5000's. They are rack mount monsters, but since it was a temporary (18 month) setup before being installed on site, I decided to put them up on two heavy duty benches.Great plan until they were delivered, and I found they weigh about 150kg each.Final plan - leave them on their pallets, put a couple of 4-by-2's and a sheet of ply between them and make them INTO a desk.

author: Haenk
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timestamp: February 27, 2020, 12:11:47 pm
content: Quote from: Halcyon on February 23, 2020, 03:19:54 amI might add that you *really* will notice how noisy it is, when you turn it *on*.(Reboots and hardware failures will work too.)It is just loud, like a jet engine.

author: Wuerstchenhund
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timestamp: April 17, 2020, 07:01:18 pm
content: Quote from: Cerebus on February 14, 2020, 01:17:54 pmThese are different computers. The upper image shows a ProLiant ML350 Gen5 or Gen6 (same chassis), the bottom image shows a ProLiant ML350 Gen9.The Gen5/6 can only take 6 LFF (3.5") or 8 SFF (2.5") drives (plus a number of 5.25"HH slots).

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2020, 07:02:56 pm
content: One of these would make a nice quiet desktop:https://youtu.be/eLVsnsGqzIY?t=1325

author: olkipukki
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2020, 07:15:07 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on April 17, 2020, 07:02:56 pmEhhh...especially if you manage to plug it into a neighbor's socketAnyway, Sun is just boring, this is for a grow up kids

author: Wuerstchenhund
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2020, 07:26:48 pm
content: I think the largest computers I used extensively for sometime was the quadroplex HP V-Class V2600 my business bought back in 2002 or so:Each cube was a V2600 computer with 32 PA-8600 552MHz 64bit processors and 32GB RAM, all coupled via a common ring bus to a large single image system running HP-UX (originally 10.20, later I used 11i v1). Connected to it was a separate HP9000 B180L+ 64bit Workstation, however after upgrading to HP-UX 11i I stopped using it and used a Thin Client to connect to the V2600 directly.A few details about these systems can be found here:https://openpa.net/systems/hp-9000_v2500_v2600.htmlThere were a few other big systems, like a Compaq/DEC AlphaServer 8400:Or a couple of Siemens RM600E running ReliantUNIX:There were also large machines from SGI (Challenge XL, Onyx XL, Origin), Sun (E10k, E3500), IBM (RS/6000 SP2) and lots of the mid-size and smaller machines.These days my largest personal desktop PC is a HP z840 with two 8-core XEONs and 512GB of RAM:

author: bd139
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timestamp: April 17, 2020, 07:30:38 pm
content: Ahh I worked on a baby N-class 9000 series. Nice machines. Apart from HP-SUX

author: Wuerstchenhund
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timestamp: April 17, 2020, 07:46:28 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on April 17, 2020, 07:30:38 pmWhat did you call my favorite UNIX of that time?Well, HP-UX did suck before 10.20 but the 11 branch was really good (I used it on IA64 later as well), and I'm still disappointed that it wasn't ported to x64.I also really liked AIX but this is probably just because I'm generally weirdOn the other side, I was never particularly fond of IRIX or Tru64.Good old times. If someone had told me back then that in 2020 we would have something like Windows 10 with forced updates, wide-ranging telemetry and half yearly releases which are like Service Packs just that there was no longer any quality control I'd probably thought he would take me a for a spin in the looney mobile

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2020, 07:59:02 pm
content: Solaris fanboy so you'll have to fight me to the death. Linux now. CentOS mostly.Although and this is weird, I rather like windows 10. It mostly just does what it's told now. Even though it mostly runs PuTTY

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2020, 10:13:11 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on April 17, 2020, 07:59:02 pmI liked Solaris as well... Even had the x86 version running on my home PC (Dual Pentium II 300MHz with 64MB RAM and two 15k rpm Seagate Cheetahs). I loved it but the lack of Solaris SW ported to x86 was a true deadend.Although I like putty on *nix, my daily driver in Windows is TeraTerm.

author: bd139
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: April 17, 2020, 10:17:53 pm
content: Yeah it was nice. Ultra 30 + Cadence Virtuoso on CDE was peak Solaris here. That actually got me into the IT sector eventually where I reside today. Which is good because the money is betterDidn’t know TeraTerm was still going!

author: Wuerstchenhund
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timestamp: April 17, 2020, 11:39:24 pm
content: Quote from: bd139 on April 17, 2020, 07:59:02 pmSome CentOS here, too, although the majority is RHEL, Oracle Linux and SLES, with mostly openSUSE for where support isn't needed.QuoteI just can't get on with it, not just because the lack of quality control, the telemetry, the forced install of software, the ever increasing integration of advertisements or the re-distribution of some settings to awkward places. The dislike is new as I did like most Windows versions before W10 (my favorite version is Windows 8.1, and I did like Vista very much).We have some W10 LTSB/LTSC machines which is mostly OK, but the non-LT variants I find pretty poor.

author: rsjsouza
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timestamp: April 18, 2020, 01:37:48 am
content: Quote from: bd139 on April 17, 2020, 10:17:53 pmI used Cadence on Sparcstations 4 and 5, but at the time our dream was a Ultra 1 - the only one at the IC design lab of the university and it was fiercely disputed by all the users on the lab.Teraterm is still kicking and the old original Teraterm Pro excels in scripting serial sessions for the embedded Linux boards I need for my work, but it has several limitations for networked connections. The newer Teraterm is better at networking and thus my go to terminal for the servers around.Ancient Teraterm Prohttp://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.htmlNewer Teratermhttps://ttssh2.osdn.jp/index.html.en