Goodbye Chrome... - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 09:08:11 am
content: Today I opened Chrome, as usual, and a message popped up saying that the uBlock Origin Extension was going to be removed, because it is no longer supported.Guess what: Chrome is no longer supported on my computer!From now on I am surfing with Firefox.Chrome has served me well over the last years and I had little to no reason of complaint. But disabling uBlock Origin was a step too far. I know they are fighting a war against ad blockers, especially because of Youtube, but if they break Extensions on purpose for their profit, I have to move on.

author: John B
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 09:33:01 am
content: Firefox and Mozilla have their own issues.Brave is another really good chromium based browser, with out of the box ad blocking. Plus listening to Brendan Eich speak, he does at least seem to have a genuine interest in what is good for the user rather than the usual corpo-speak slop.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 09:49:45 am
content: https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/software/google-is-disabling-one-of-the-worlds-biggest-ad-blockers-what-you-need-to-know

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 09:58:02 am
content: There's always Opera, which I at least don't find totally repulsive. (Windoze computah here.)

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 10:21:59 am
content: here we are at the end of 2024 ... how much shit is in the computer industry today ...Last night I had a light bulb burn out, and since I didn't have a flashlight handy I installed an application for my Android phone.A simple flashlight app that does nothing but turn on the front LED of my phone... why the fsck does it have to show an ad for two seconds asking me to pay protection money to have it removed?Why!?!Why do i have to have this kind of annoyance even on the app that makes the weather forecast?Even worse if it then reports my habits to Google and this bombards me with ads?Even worse, why Google uses that info to choose on Youtube the videos that they think I'm interested in?Whey every time I open that bloody browser? and/or Apps on my Phone?... advertising in everything, even in phone apps, increasingly paid services, increasingly paid services to remove that fucking annoying adv, two tons of padlocks in every HTTPS site to safeguard "privacy", too bad it's a fart since we are all tracked by useless AI in every stupid thing, tons of shit in browsers to support modern web-apps increasingly tied hand and foot to JavaScript and truly disgusting technologiesNot to mention Youtube which if once was the stage for people who had at least something interesting to say, today it's just a place full of imbeciles who make shitty clickbait videos just to earn easy money.... I hope that exactly at midnight between 2024 and 2025, there will be a stellar flare, an unlikely but not impossible event, but I wish of the magnitude of global blackout, like in the events beforeBladeRunner 2049, one of those digital technology erasure events that instantly wipe every storage device in the world and bring the world back to the early 2000s, supposing people only have DVD-RAM and WORM backups of only that era.

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 10:28:45 am
content: compiling a Netscape clone was even doable on a 486@100Mhz with 128Mbyte of Ramcompiling a Dillo is doable on a MIPS@400Mhz board with only 128Mbyte of Ramcompiling Firefox ... requires a cluster, and I've seen stack requests go up to 2Gbytes of ram(forget it for { HPPA, PPC32, PPC64, MIPS32, MIPS4, ... } dunno RISCV)absurd even how these modern "mega browsers" are built

author: Bicurico
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 10:59:55 am
content: Due to online banking and other security required applications, I steer away from non-mainstream browsers.The options I considered where Chrome, Edge and Firefox.Chrome: doesn't allow uBlock Origin, which is a no-go for me (I admit, one of the main features is to listen to Youtube music, while I work)Edge: even worse with far too much bullshit thrown in by MicrosoftFirefox: seems to be the least annoying one and all the sites I use seem to work fineBut I am open to suggestions.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 11:47:14 am
content: Quote from: John B on December 20, 2024, 09:33:01 amThere's also LibreWolf if you want to decouple a little more from Mozilla / Firefox. Among other things, it comes with uBlock Orgin already included as standard, so I don't see any chance of it being blocked.

author: JohanH
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 12:05:20 pm
content: Edge is based on Chromium, so basically there is a big browser monopoly by Google. The only still viable competitor is Firefox. Although it looks a bit bad for them. However, if you care about any kind of competition, in hope for better software and a better future, you choose to use Firefox. Not because it's better, but because it's a competitor. And open source. If everyone uses Google's browser, the future will be riddled by advertisements and your browser experience will become like television in the past, where you are fed content decided by the big players. I don't want that, so I will use Firefox until the bitter end.

author: spostma
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 12:24:54 pm
content: If you use a non-mainstream browser like librewolf, I would advise not to use the latest build,but rather one that is at least on month old, and check it on virustotal before installing it.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 12:40:44 pm
content: I'm using it under Linux, I have firefox installed too. I do see the occasional LibreWolf update in the log but not as many as Firefox. My assumption, right or wrong, is that they are just tracking security updates rather than feature ones. It's a small operation, but I think they say that they typically implement Firefox related security updates within one day.

author: John B
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 10:02:54 pm
content: Quote from: DiTBho on December 20, 2024, 10:21:59 amI'm running GrapheneOS on my pixel phone. It removes any of the inbuilt ads or cloud based nagging that comes with the stock OS.In terms of apps, you can look into other repositories rather than the google play store, like F Droid (I'm using the droidify app as a front end).I'm also using Obtanium as a manager for most of my apps. It's unique in that it compiles the apps directly from their respective github pages.This gives you a wide variety of open sourced ad free apps. You certainly don't have to put up with ads on your own personal devices.

author: SiliconWizard
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 10:28:32 pm
content: Quote from: JohanH on December 20, 2024, 12:05:20 pmYes, exactly.Most Chrome "competitors" are Chromium-based. Talk about competition. So there is pretty much only Firefox as the serious, non-Chromium based browser.On macOS there is Safari I think? It's not based on Chromium? Or is it now?

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 20, 2024, 10:47:50 pm
content: Quote from: SiliconWizard on December 20, 2024, 10:28:32 pmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_web_browsersSafari was on the platform earlier and contributed the open source Webkit layout/rendering engine that now underpins the modern "compatible" web landscape. But then Google departed and did its own thing:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit#Forking_by_Google

author: garrettm
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 02:18:21 am
content: Meh. Firefox works for me. I used to use Opera, but they have basically become Chrome with a different name. They don't even try to differentiate themselves anymore.The only thing I wish Firefox had was FTP--why everyone began dropping support for it is beyond me. It just makes getting files from FTP servers more annoying. Sandbox the FTP code, give me a warning, or whatever--I don't really care--but don't get rid of it.

author: JohanH
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 09:27:45 am
content: Quote from: garrettm on December 22, 2024, 02:18:21 amAre people still running pure FTP servers? Must be some ancient service. Most that I used in the past have moved to https (for downloading only of course). If you must upload and are serious, use sftp. I do see the use case for anonymous uploads, but you could just have a known sftp user name and password for that. Otherwise it was a good thing for public security that FTP was dropped from browsers. People who know how to use FTP will use it anyway, with dedicated FTP clients.

author: Halcyon
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 09:38:34 am
content: Quote from: Bicurico on December 20, 2024, 10:59:55 amBrave.Seems to be the best combination of the bigger guys without sacrificing compatibility. You just need to turn off all the useless stuff from the default "blank" tab.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 08:54:04 pm
content: Do you know what underlying search engine Brave actually uses? It's not their own, I'm pretty sure.Besides Google and Bing, who else out there actually has created their own search engine? Not many more, I'd reckon.

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 09:46:10 pm
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on December 22, 2024, 08:54:04 pmLMGTFYhttps://letmegooglethat.com/?q=brave+browser+search+enginehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_Searchhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 10:13:29 pm
content: Quote from: Bicurico on December 20, 2024, 09:08:11 amI never allow the browsers to update like that to try and help stop that from happening. I keep the browser program by number and launch shortcuts different data profiles linked to those for different websites I use.I am experimenting with Firefox 125 but still need works. The tabs don't show up when loaded with a profile from Firefox 75 that I customized in 2020 and I think that is the only thing left.I use mainly use Vivaldi as I found I can customize the appearance and get it in the way I want but it'd be a matter of time when Google remove the manifest 2 from their code base according to some articles I found of trying to retain it as long as they could.I remembered a question in their forums a few years ago something about Vivaldi switching to Firefox engine and the answer for that it was a massive undertaking for them. Now this is happening and maybe they'd consider it again.So it looks like Firefox is looking the way forward.Quote from: Gyro on December 20, 2024, 11:47:14 amNever heard of that before. Will give it ago and see if I can get similar results.Quote from: Bicurico on December 20, 2024, 10:59:55 amI use to use that in 2020 just to view Amazon Prime video but one day I got a message from the web player that the Chrome version will be discontinued at the end of the year. So I updated it at some point and as soon as I saw these stupid animated skeletons placeholder CRAP in the menu's and the impact of slowing it down when they appearance I thought that's it and installed the old copy until it stopped working and swapped it for Vivaldi when I discovered it later.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 10:36:12 pm
content: Quote from: Someone on December 22, 2024, 09:46:10 pmLook pal, don't give me that shit. I fucking know how to "Google"*, like, I don't know, every other person on the planet.I'm intentionally asking people here instead of having to wade through dozens of irrelevant "hits".*I hate the "verbification" of that name.

author: Someone
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 10:48:52 pm
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on December 22, 2024, 10:36:12 pmSoliterallyasking others to answer trivial questions for you? Not dozens of irrelevant hits, that obvious search term gets right to the point.So you know how to google but are so bad at it you need to ask others to do it for you?

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 22, 2024, 11:12:34 pm
content: Quote from: Someone on December 22, 2024, 10:48:52 pmSo by that reasoning, maybe Dave should just shut down this forum. After all, who needs it when you can just "google" your question?QuoteNo, I just don't need nannies like you suggesting how I should go about getting my information.Go away.

author: amyk
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 02:09:50 am
content: Quote from: DiTBho on December 20, 2024, 10:21:59 amI have generic Android phone from mid 2012. Came with a stock torch app that has nothing but a single button to turn the LED on and off. You can still find plenty of those but they likely aren't at the top of search results since they don't funnel ad $$$ to Google et. al...

author: the Chris
author_rank: Regular Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 05:54:06 am
content: Quote from: amyk on December 23, 2024, 02:09:50 amFor this, a suggestion regarding android devices: search and downloads apps on f-droid.org instead or alternatively, use their own app to do so. The keywords "torch", "flashlight" or similar in native languages like the German "Taschenlampe" will yield lots of open source alternative choices with warnings if code has been used that might raise privacy concerns. Not all apps are good and many just stalled in development month or years ago. But there are still a lot of apps that will do the required job just fine, even browsers like the Firefox based Fennec. If installed via the f-droid app, non-forced Auto-Updates are available, too.Christian, surfing with Firefox since Netscape

author: JohanH
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 23, 2024, 08:58:45 am
content: Quote from: DiTBho on December 20, 2024, 10:21:59 amEveryone knows that on the Google platform, including Android, YOU are the product. The whole thing is based on consumer data, tracking and advertisements.If you want free and open source software without ads for Android, use thehttps://f-droid.org/store.Try the open source Torchlight app that they provide. I haven't tried it, so YMMV. There are other also, such as Flashy and Simple Flashlight.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2024, 12:19:35 am
content: Got it working once again in the way I want it. I was reading someone else's script trying to integrate it but the tabs seems to follow next to menu bar and can only seem to make it go above or below then I read Firefox 133 required for this other script.https://github.com/MrOtherGuy/firefox-csshacks/blob/master/chrome/tabs_on_bottom_v2.cssQuoteOkay I thought, lets copy the Firefox 75 profiles in c:\Firefox 133 and when extracted experiment with the CSS scripts.So I extracted Firefox, copy and rename shortcuts and the tabs started to appear but I didn't make any changes. Maybe they had reverted a few things before Firefox 90 when that css last worked.Seems to be looking great to me.Just the way I want it.I'll see how this goes. Unfortunately with Adblock and Ublock, the elements load and hides stuff randomly at some point during the page load. So I'd still see the stupid animated placeholders briefly.I had a go at Firefox 75 ESR (seemed very unstable) in 2020 along with Vivaldi got it the way I want but now it seems to time to prepare to a possible move over.If this works well for me and ESR 133+ is released that'd be me set for a few years. Unfortunately since 90 when they made the tabs round, they also caked it in dimming overlays which is why I stopped using it for a whileHere's my configuration:(copied from random places including Github)C:\Firefox 133\Template\Chrome\userChrome.cssCode:#context-back image,#context-forward image,#context-reload image,#context-stop image,#context-bookmarkpage image,#context-navigation,#context-sep-navigation {display:none !important;}/* New Tab Context - move the menu item to the top */#tabContextMenu menuitem[label="New Tab"] { -moz-box-ordinal-group: 0 !important; }/* New Tab Context - hide the icon */#tabContextMenu menuitem[label="New Tab"] .menu-iconic-icon { display: none !important; }/* Firefox userChrome.css */@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");.tab-throbber {list-style-image: url("chrome://mozapps/skin/places/defaultFavicon.png") !important;}/* Remove Tab Throbber Animation, from this author : https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7cvzkq/how_can_i_remove_firefox_57_page_load_animation/ */.tab-throbber { display: none !important; }.tab-icon-image { visibility: show !important; display: block !important;}.tabbrowser-tab[progress="true"] .tab-icon-image {opacity:0.45; filter: blur(1px);}.tab-loading-burst::before {background-image: none !important;animation: unset !important;}@namespace url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul);* { transition: none !important;animation-duration: 0s !important; }/* Close the useless Tab Bar Full, animate New Tab, from this author : http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2282765 */.tabbrowser-tab:not() {max-width: 250px !important;min-width: 100px !important;}.tabbrowser-tab:not():not() {max-width: 0.1px !important;}.closing-tabs-spacer {width: 0 !important;}/* Remove the Ugly Distracting Transparent Tab effect, from this author : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1187357#answer-1033293 */#tabbrowser-tabs > .tabbrowser-tab > .tab-stack > .tab-background * {background: none !important;}/* Disable the Ugly Blue Glow Tab Effect, from this author : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/928081 */.tabbrowser-tab:not([selected="true"]) {background: -moz-linear-gradient(hsla(0,0%,100%,.2), hsla(0,0%,45%,.2) 2px, hsla(0,0%,32%,.2) 80%)!important;}.tabbrowser-tab:not([selected="true"]):hover {background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(hsla(0,0%,100%,.6), hsla(0,0%,100%,.2) 4px, hsla(0,0%,75%,.2) 80%) !important;}/* Disable the Tab Highlighting Fearure (absoluetly Useless for a normal use), from this author : http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=867225 */.tabbrowser-tab:not([selected="true"]) > .tab-image-middle {background-image: url("chrome://global/skin/icons/tab-middle-bkgnd.png") !important;}.tabbrowser-tab:hover:not([selected="true"]) > .tab-image-middle {background-image: url("chrome://global/skin/icons/tab-middle-bkgnd.png") !important;}/* Remove some Random Annoying Animations in the Toolbar, from this author : annoying animations https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/37hw8o/how_to_disable_all_animations/ */* {animation-delay: 0ms !important;animation-duration: 0ms !important;transition: none !important;}/* Remove the Very Ugly and Distracting and Useless Hamburger Button (because it is redundant with the arrows) */#PanelUI-menu-button {display: none;}/*#PopupAutoCompleteRichResult {display: none!important;}/* TABS: on bottom */#navigator-toolbox toolbar:not(#nav-bar):not(#toolbar-menubar) {-moz-box-ordinal-group:10}#TabsToolbar {-moz-box-ordinal-group:1000!important}#TabsToolbar {display: block !important; /*required for 71+*/position: absolute !important;bottom: 0 !important;width: 100vw !important;}#tabbrowser-tabs {width: 100vw !important;}*|*:root:not([chromehidden*="toolbar"]) #navigator-toolbox {padding-bottom: var(--tab-min-height) !important;}/* TABS: height */*|*:root {--tab-toolbar-navbar-overlap: 0px !important;--tab-min-height: 27px !important; /* adjust to suit your needs */--tab-min-width: 80px !important;--tabstoolbar-adjust: 0px; /* menubar and titlebar hidden */}#TabsToolbar {height: var(--tab-min-height) !important;margin-bottom: 1px !important;box-shadow: ThreeDShadow 0 -1px inset, -moz-dialog 0 1px !important;}#tabbrowser-tabs,#tabbrowser-tabs > .tabbrowser-arrowscrollbox,.tabbrowser-tabs > .tabbrowser-tab {min-height: var(--tab-min-height) !important;max-height: var(--tab-min-height) !important;}/* TabsToolbar with menubar and titlebar hidden */*|*:root:not([inFullscreen="true"]):not([sizemode="maximized"])#toolbar-menubar[autohide="true"] ~ #TabsToolbar{bottom: var(--tab-min-height) !important;padding-top: calc(var(--tab-min-height) + var(--tabstoolbar-adjust)) !important; /*adjust var*/}*|*:root:not([inFullscreen="true"]) #toolbar-menubar[autohide="true"]~ #TabsToolbar .titlebar-buttonbox-container {visibility: hidden !important;}/* drag space */.titlebar-spacer[type="pre-tabs"],.titlebar-spacer[type="post-tabs"] {width: 40px;}/* Override vertical shifts when moving a tab */#navigator-toolbox > #titlebar > #TabsToolbar {padding-bottom: unset !important;}#navigator-toolbox #tabbrowser-tabs {padding-bottom: unset !important;margin-bottom: unset !important;}#navigator-toolbox > #nav-bar {margin-top: unset !important;}/* hide indicators */.private-browsing-indicator {display: none !important;}.accessibility-indicator {display: none !important;}/* based on https://old.reddit.com/comments/fwhlva//fmolndz */#urlbar[breakout-extend]:not() {top: calc((var(--urlbar-toolbar-height) - var(--urlbar-height)) / 2) !important;left: 0 !important;width: 100% !important;}#urlbar[breakout-extend]:not() > #urlbar-input-container {height: var(--urlbar-height) !important;padding-block: 0px !important;padding-inline: 0px !important;}#urlbar[breakout-extend][breakout-extend-animate] > #urlbar-background {animation-name: none !important;}#urlbar[breakout-extend]:not() > #urlbar-background {box-shadow: none !important;}#urlbar-results { display:none!important; }Shortcut:QuoteThere I can just copy the template and rename it to a website name to keep them separate and add a nice little ICO image to it. I do this to keep them separate to help prevent session hijacking (I use another dedicated browser profile for that) and aggressive advertising where the same advert partner might advertise something I looked at on Amazon and advertise it on some banner elsewhere cheaper.Thanks to all the folks and on Github for this.

author: bson
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 24, 2024, 01:22:21 am
content: I switched to Firefox maybe 6 months ago, not for any dislike of Google or Chrome, but simply because Chrome wasn't working right on Fedora 40. It had a tendency to seize up the gnome desktop for 10-20 seconds at a time. FF didn't so I switched and see not reason to go back.I switched from MacOS to Linux because the former is a PITA as a general-purpose dev system. I wanted to build an old gcc cross compiler based on 3.2.8 (the last version with ns32k code generation) and it predates Mach-O object files so needs either ELF or a.out. GNU ld doesn't support MacOS, and the Apple linker dropped support for a.out files a long time ago. So reached for my rarely used Dell XPS 9700, installed a second SSD for Linux, tried a few different distros and settled on Fedora. Built gcc (and fixed a few problems so it could build with the latest gcc) and was off to the races. Set up Linux to my liking and it's just so nice to have what feels like a Unix workstation again - gnome is really nice and it feels like a Unix system with a nice UI, the same reason I switched to MacOS from Sun Solaris around 2005. Setting and up and getting familiar with Fedora made me realize again how far MacOS had deviated over time, to how boxed-in it was. I now have everything I need on F40 (and F41 on a 14900K desktop) and only ever need the Mac for a single use: photography. That's still not realistic with Linux, but pretty much everything technical... it just rocks.

author: DukeNukeDesign
author_rank: Newbie
timestamp: December 24, 2024, 12:42:16 pm
content: I completely agree with you. Google’s move to disable uBlock Origin was the final straw for me as well. I’ve switched to Firefox, and I’m very happy so far—especially because effective ad-blocking is still possible. Some people like Brave for its built-in ad-blocking features, but personally, I prefer Firefox for its open-source philosophy and supportive community

author: 5U4GB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2024, 12:44:52 pm
content: Quote from: John B on December 20, 2024, 09:33:01 am+1 for Brave, which I switched to after Chrome disabled uBlock Origin and was astounded at how much crap there was without uBlock around to get rid of it.

author: N0NB
author_rank: Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2024, 01:30:20 pm
content: For those like me that run Openwrt on their router, using Adblock helps a lot and then uBlock Origin can clean up the rest. It really helps to clean up the phones when they're connected to the LAN.As for the flashlight, this is why I like my Motorola (Lenovo) phone. The stock firmware has a flashlight app that interprets two "chopping" motions while holding the phone as the flashlight toggle. One does have to have a good grip on the phone...

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 24, 2024, 04:15:52 pm
content: Just slowly migrating stuff across to Firefox incase the worst comes to the worst but had some problems last night.Quote from: N0NB on December 24, 2024, 01:30:20 pmSpeaking of which some of the Adblock/Ublock rules I put in don't seem to work as intended with Firefox like it does with Chrome. I notice this before with Palemoon when one element rule also hides other things but not with Chrome. I had some problems last night with Firefox and some new things added to Youtube recenlty wouldn't hide despite being hidden by Vivaldi (Chrome).I am going to see if I can clean them up later and merge them in the block list. 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24/12/2024 https://www.youtube.com##.ytSearchboxComponentSearchButton > span > div##.ytd-masthead.ytSearchboxComponentDesktop.ytSearchboxComponentHost > button > yt-icon > .yt-spec-icon-shape.yt-icon.style-scope.yt-icon-shapeyoutube.com##DIV.ytSearchboxComponentInnerSearchIconI am hoping that the effort I put into it will pay off with a frustration free experience for a while.Lots of profiles to add soon with the bookmarks.Quote from: Gyro on December 20, 2024, 11:47:14 amQuoteLooks to me just like another copy of Firefox 133 and portable toowith a few extra added functionality that even works too with the browser profile and Userchrome.css copied over from Firefox 75.The Tabview I think could be quite useful for a niche purpose when too many tabs open and want to close many down quickly but not everything.

author: SteveThackery
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2024, 12:56:51 pm
content: Quote from: garrettm on December 22, 2024, 02:18:21 amFurthermore, Opera is now Chinese owned, which is why I don't use it any more.

author: rsjsouza
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 25, 2024, 01:26:52 pm
content: I have been doing browser separation for quite some time now. Google products go in the Chrome browser, Firefox for the vast majority of tasks and, for some random sites that do not work well on Firefox, I use Chromium ungoogled. This seems to work well, although I don't use an ad blocker.

author: 5U4GB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 26, 2024, 04:18:23 am
content: Quote from: rsjsouza on December 25, 2024, 01:26:52 pmI had Chrome reserved purely for various Google sites that don't work well in Firefox, my main browser. However I've found Brave to be a more than adequate substitute, particularly since Chrome started wanting me to sign in to a Google account for every little thing I tried to do.

author: macboy
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2024, 01:09:13 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on December 22, 2024, 11:12:34 pmYou've earned a permanent spot on my ignore list. I have yet to see a positive contribution to a discussion from you and I doubt I ever would have. Now I won't need to wonder.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 28, 2024, 07:10:16 pm
content: thanks for info, it's time to backup current chrome version and block it's update.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2024, 05:10:08 am
content: Quote from: radiolistener on December 28, 2024, 07:10:16 pmHere's what I'd do:Copy Chrome to directory named after it's version number. So for Chrome 125:From:C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Applicationto:C:\Browserprofiles\Programs\Chrome 125Sometimes the program is in c:\users\<your account name>\appdata\local\google for single user install so copy from there.Copy your Chrome profile:From:C:\Users\<Your account name>\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User DataTo:C:\Browserprofiles\User\Googlechrome\templates\125Template"Copy chrome shortcut and edit:Shortcut:Target:"C:\Browserprofiles\Programs\Chrome 125\chrome.exe" --user-data-dir="C:\Browserprofiles\User\Googlechrome\templates\125Template"Start in:"C:\Browserprofiles\Programs\Chrome 125"Once it starts with everything clear what you don't want.Also find softwarereporter.exe and delete.May not be necessary as it should only update in the folder it was installed in:and C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleUpdaterFind Task Scheduler and remove the tasksCopy your extensions (developer mode in extensions and load unpacked)C:\Browserprofiles\User\Googlechrome\templates\125Template\Default\ExtensionsFind out their names according to the extensions tab and rename in the copy what they are.The problem with that is when installed you may get a nagging message on startup about them and whether you want to disable them.

author: DiTBho
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2024, 10:57:52 am
content: Quote from: bson on December 24, 2024, 01:22:21 amI owned an Apple Book Air M1, which unfortunately got stolen.I had the same kind of problem, which I solved by putting GNU/Linux into a virtual machine under MacOS.GNU/LinuxvsBSD/MacOSis kind of a:b = c:dI support several old versions of gcc, from 2.95 onwards, from aout to ecof to elf.I must say that in addition to the problem you had, many things also depend on the ecosystem(1)and once again it is quicker to use a virtual machine (or a container(Linux))Quote from: bson on December 24, 2024, 01:22:21 am+= FinalCut(1) talking about recompiling old linux kernels, such as 2.2, 2.4, 2.6e.g. kernel 2.6.* has NO support for gcc > 4But also Makefile synthax is incompatible, and there are also problem with perl-scripts

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 29, 2024, 11:13:55 am
content: I wonder if anyone will have the resources (as the code base is huge and complex) to fork and keep on developing Firefox/Gecko when Mozilla corporation as we know it goes bankrupt and ceases to exist, and that's going to happen pretty soon I believe.Besides, Firefox is no longer a focus for Mozilla, as they're turning it from "the company behind an excellent web browser" to yet another AI/ad/whatever-BS-of-the-day company, so Firefox is pretty much doomed, unless someone capable forks it. In addition, they are making some insane management and financial decisions, so there's not much hope for them.As far as I see it, the web browser scene's future looks quite grim. It's another part of the general trend to the destruction of the internet we once had.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2024, 08:45:23 pm
content: There's Palemoon which had been going since 2009 where they had been trying to maintain and adapt what looks to me like some build from Firefox 21 with some compatibility with the extensions from that time or ones they rebuilt but it seems slow at certain things which is a shame.https://www.palemoon.orgQuoteat the expense of performance.It's great for Eevblog with no lagging or stalling so I use that here and just about manages Imgur with the Headerhiderfixerhider script via Greasemonkey.

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 30, 2024, 09:06:48 pm
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on December 30, 2024, 08:45:23 pmOne issue with all these marginal (as opposed to mainstream) browsers, as good as they might be, is that they do not support the vast assortment of extensions that are available for the mainstream browsers.I use quite a lot of extensions with Firefox: from the absolutely mandatory NoScript and uBlock Origin to UI tweakers (such as the one that brings back the "View Image" context menu entry and others that undo certain idiotic decisions of the FF's UI designers) and specific website tweakers such as a search results blacklist for Google and a debullshittifier extension for Twitter. And more things like the "undisable right click" or "improve contrast" (which fixes the awesome "grey text on grey background" pages) addons and so on and so forth.As good as an alternative browser might be, it would be useless to me without support for all, or most, of these extensions. Nowadays being a good web browser alone is not enough. Many extensions are required for any browser to at least partially remediate the enshittification that happened to the WWW during the last 15 years or so.

author: Analog Kid
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2024, 05:11:20 am
content: Quote from: shapirus on December 30, 2024, 09:06:48 pmI gotta ask: how does that work?

author: Monkeh
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2024, 05:13:31 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on December 31, 2024, 05:11:20 amMaking the entire site a blank page would be highly effective.

author: radiolistener
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2024, 05:23:45 am
content: Quote from: shapirus on December 30, 2024, 09:06:48 pmActually not so many, just ublock and switcheroo redirector. This is enough.

author: DaneLaw
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2024, 06:19:25 am
content: You can extent Ublock Origin another ½ year, so it will work to mid 2025.. (at least)It's down to Google closing support for manifest v2 extensions for v3 which restricts extensions quite a bit.But If you wanna extend your Manifest V2 dateline so you can keep using the original Ublock Origin & Manifest V2 extensions.* Open a clean notepad.* Paste this single line:ExtensionManifestV2Availability*Save it as as .reg file*Run the file and agree to add it to the registry.For people on Mac.. use terminal and depending on which browser you use, paste the below sequence to extend manifest v2 support.*Chrome:defaults write com.google.Chrome.plist ExtensionManifestV2Availability -int 2*Chrome Beta:defaults write com.google.Chrome.beta.plist ExtensionManifestV2Availability -int 2*Brave:defaults write com.brave.Browser.plist ExtensionManifestV2Availability -int 2*Brave Beta:defaults write com.brave.Browser.beta.plist ExtensionManifestV2Availability -int 2// You can also use "Ublock Origin Lite" on Chrome which is a manifest V3-based extension, but also way more limited than Ublock Origin.

author: shapirus
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: December 31, 2024, 09:48:58 am
content: Quote from: Analog Kid on December 31, 2024, 05:11:20 amI have no clue as tohowit works, but I know what it does: it removes the unnecessary nonsense and adds UI tweaks that improve UX. I use this one:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/control-panel-for-twitter/Of course it's up to the user to decide which particular features they want to add or remove.Works great.Of course, it does not affect what's in the posts. That's up to the user: choose carefully whom you subscribe to. And that's another thing where this addon is useful: it has an option that removes all recommended/suggested posts and keeps only the content actually produced by those whom the user has explicitly subscribed to (like for example it used to be in LJ back in the day).

author: mcinque
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: December 31, 2024, 01:17:52 pm
content: Quote from: Bicurico on December 20, 2024, 10:59:55 amYou have no reason to feel safer using mainstream browsers; Popular browsers such as Chrome are prime targets for cyber attacks for one simple reason: they are the most widely used and therefore provide a higher return to attackers.This does not mean that they are inherently less secure, but that their popularity exposes them to higher risk.Moreover, security does not depend on the notoriety of the browser, but on factors such as:The speed with which bugs are fixed.The adoption of good practices by the user.The focus on avoiding risky extensions or behaviors.Many lesser-known browsers implement equally good or superior security techniques and, because they are less common, are less attractive to attackers. Ultimately, choosing a “mainstream” browser does not automatically guarantee you more security. On the contrary, with the right precautions, an alternative browser can be an equally good, if not better, choice.

author: MrMobodies
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2025, 03:18:06 am
content: Quote from: DaneLaw on December 31, 2024, 06:19:25 amIf I can't add elements to it specific to what I want then it's useless to me.I have no interest and don't use other filterlists as the suggestions, decorations and the animations bother me more than anything else.I remember before 2015 I never felt the need for adblock and found other ways to block the most serious offenders such as advertising hosts that were involved in distributing malware either through the Windows hosts file or pfsense firewall. It all started with Google Suggestions when they removed the option leaving me with the complete=0 url, then totally removing that where it still worked on this longer forgotten Elmer theme url of theirs and discovering Adblock can hide the suggestions lines when someone lied to me in the Google product forums saying "It was built in"... bullshit and I proved them wrong when I got some assistance from the Adblock forum. They seem so concerned as I remember of going to great lengths to hide it but they don't understand how irritating it is for me to a point where I can't concentrate to use it.Ebay eventually removed the little suggestion hide element symbol to turn off suggestions so Abp adblock came use there too.Then came along the RAM in yer face, SPAMMY FIXED HEADERS starting from Ebay basketbar and purchase bar, then Amazon started to do the same, then came along the spinners, dimming overlays, picture obscuring gradients that make it look dingey and when I think it couldn't get any worse, the animated skeletons placeholders that seem to slow the whole thing down and delay the page as it loads.

author: 5U4GB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: January 02, 2025, 11:47:52 am
content: Quote from: MrMobodies on December 30, 2024, 08:45:23 pmI tried a few of the Firefox forks but found they were just too much for the small number of maintainers on most of them to keep up with, typically a fork of an oldish code base that resurfaced annoying Firefox bugs I hadn't seen for years, combined with heroic attempts to keep things updated that weren't managing to stay up to date. I really wanted to like them but ended up each time falling back to Firefox.

author: bson
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: January 28, 2025, 11:41:45 pm
content: Quote from: DiTBho on December 29, 2024, 10:57:52 amIt was just the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I've had many other similar problems with MacOS, for example the last time I tried to build KiCad on it it had a dependency on an old SDK that's no longer available, and Apple only offers the latest version of XCode. I'd have to find an old OS no longer available, to possibly download an old version of XCode. Their dev setup is streamlined only for exactly one purpose: developing MacOS apps, which is completely uninteresting to me. It just so happened that the KiCad developers had upgraded their XCode installations and that old SDK was still available to them. But there was no way to bootstrap a new build setup. This was a few years ago, so maybe things have changed, but I'm sure if I want to try again on Linux all I need is to install the dependencies, with just dnf, maybe something that needs to be built manually, and I'm off to the races.When I switched to MacOS (from Sun Solaris) around 2004 it had none of these problems. It was Unix with a superior UI, but slowly over time it has turned into something else. For the minor warts with Linux (like gnome-shell deciding it's cpu suck time) the things I use a computer for are so much more straightforward.