Circumvent YT adblock detection? - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 03:02:26 pm
content: Is anyone successfully circumventing the YT adblock detection? I have uBlock Origin installed in Firefox, but YT is still detecting it and preventing me from viewing videos without consenting to the ads.

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 04:04:14 pm
content: Okay, I just started using Tampermonkey and this script, and it seems to be good so far.https://gist.github.com/cutiepoka/a9347c68bfcf29060926a8af46bb1701

author: iMo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 04:11:21 pm
content: Installed..How to test it??

author: KE5FX
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 04:40:29 pm
content: Just subscribe. The value's there, at least for the moment.

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 05:35:44 pm
content: Quote from: iMo on October 13, 2023, 04:11:21 pmWithout Tampermonkey and the script, when logged in to YT, it would not play any videos at all. With those things I was able to play videos and I didn't see any ads either. That's the extent of my testing.This is the video I used for installing:

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 05:46:29 pm
content: That blocks the popup, but does not prevent Youtube from detecting the adblocker, right? Next obvious escalation step for Youtube will be to refuse playing the video entirely when it detects an adblocker, I assume...

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 06:03:02 pm
content: Quote from: MikeK on October 13, 2023, 03:02:26 pmI couldn't possibly help you with anything like that, sorry.If I had been able to help, I'd have told you that Adblock Plus, seems to still be working at blocking the adverts. Without any adverse issues.But as I said, I can't tell you.As I've stated elsewhere. I'm in the camp, that would seriously consider paying a modest (small) amount, towards youtube. But think the current sky-high prices, are way, way too high. Especially considering that some other countries, only have to pay, massively less fees. Which I DON'T accept as being ok and acceptable.Instead it really annoys me and completely puts me off from paying for their services.E.g. If TVs were £2,000 in the UK, and only £5 in other countries. Hopefully people can understand why I would NOT be ok with that.

author: Veteran68
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 06:14:32 pm
content: Guy, at this point YT is punishing creators when their viewers use ad blockers. They are demonetizing their channels with "invalid traffic" claims which has been traced to blocked ads. YT let this go on for a long time, but it looks like now they're getting serious about it since many advertisers have revolted and threatened YT's revenue stream. I don't have much sympathy for YouTube/Google, but I do care a lot about my favorite creators and I don't want to see them hurt and have to go offline. If you find YT valuable, please consider subscribing if you cannot stomach the ads.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 06:44:53 pm
content: Quote from: Veteran68 on October 13, 2023, 06:14:32 pmBasically it's the cost (price they charge/want), that I have a problem with. Combined with the fact that some countries, only have to pay a tiny fraction (perhaps £12.99 or £13.99 per month here in the UK), but only something like £2.50 in much cheaper countries.I can't stomach the (in my view), excessive monthly cost, or the fact that others, can get it massively cheaper.If push came to shove, I suspect the alternative players (such as odyssey) to YouTube, would increase in capabilities, such as range of videos they offer. So that I could move onto other platforms.I wouldn't rule out, me NOT even paying considerably cheaper fees, either. Because I'm extremely disappointed, with the advert system on YouTube (they seem to have made changes, so for some time now, other device(s) I use, can't or don't block the adverts, anymore).Because it spams these crazy irrelevant, annoying adverts, a huge number of times, in rapid succession, which I do NOT think is reasonable.As regards paying content producers. I wouldn't rule out, paying them more directly, such as by Patreon, or by other means, if available. Then they will get, up to 100% of my donation(s), instead of a tiny, tiny amount, that google decides, to throw at them, sometimes, if they jump through the right hoops, that google decides to place in the way.

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 06:51:17 pm
content: The following video (I don't think I've watched much of it, but what little I've seen, I am in very big agreement, with, so far).Seems to nicely explain, the YouTube advert situation.It is by the relatively famous in our sort of circles, Louis Rossmann.It is of course, rather IRONIC, for me to post a YouTube video as an additional response. Showing how prevalent YouTube is, these days.

author: iMo
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 06:54:05 pm
content: Quote from: MK14 on October 13, 2023, 06:44:53 pmThat must come soon.. Imagine the entire World of Internet will be "regulated" by Google/YT only..

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 07:41:44 pm
content: Quote from: iMo on October 13, 2023, 06:54:05 pmArguably, YouTube (Google, Alphabet etc), have got way too big a percentage of the casual internet 'video' market. Essentially a massive monopoly. I think it should have not been allowed to happen (monopoly), in the same way I consider Microsoft windows, to be a monopoly as well.If other players, could much more significantly, take their market share of the 'YouTube' segment. Perhaps there could be, much more innovation in that sector. Along with a much healthier mix of differing tastes, political leanings, some more on the rougher side of life, but others could be much more toned down (hence better for children to use, and family viewing).Also, perhaps too many of these technological (internet) companies, stem from and are often based in, America. Despite the fact the US, has perhaps less (or no more) than 5% of the worlds population, and some laws which seem to be steeply stacked against the rights of the other countries, such as privacy laws and so on.Then there is the fact that Google, is one of the most popular search engines. So that also makes it difficult for any competitors, to gain a foothold, as the Google search engine, can fail to find such videos (competitors) and or put them so low in the rankings, that almost nobody, bothers to seek them out.

author: ebastler
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 07:50:21 pm
content: Quote from: Veteran68 on October 13, 2023, 06:14:32 pmHow much evidence do you have that this is actually happening?I just saw this hypothesis today, mentioned in the "Sorin" thread in the General Chat section. There's a link to a single creator's video there, where he puts forward the theory that the "invalid traffic" demonetization is related to users with adblocks. If you watch the beginning of this video, his assumption is based on a single peak in a noisy curve. I would like to see more than the one single data point -- is there more evidence?It does not make much sense to me either: If Google wanted to punish createors in order to put pressure on users to disable adblockers (which is not a meaningful approach in the first place, given that they could put pressure on the users directly by blocking them) -- why would they keep this scheme a secret?! How is it expected to influence users' behaviour that way??So, unless I see much more evidence, I'm disinclined to believe that there is a connection.

author: Gyro
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 08:23:06 pm
content: Why do people keep (trying to) repeatedly show me ads that, at best, I will ignore, will block if possible, and which certainly won't have any favorable effect on my purchasing choices. Why would you try to show me exactly the same ads every day when I visit eevblog (just as an example). They didn't affect my purchasing choices yesterday or the day/week/year before.I just don't get the on-line advertising thing, they're never going to persuade me to buy something, and when I do want something I will research it myself. I'm clearly not in the target demographic so probably best all round if I don't see them - they could arguably save a little money by not making them to show to me (and many others like me) and paying sites to try to show them to me. The way to get me to buy your product / service is to just make it better than the rest - stick your money into R&D and manufacturing.Maybe I'm just getting too old and cynical.

author: MikeK
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 09:16:44 pm
content: I would like to point out that plenty of people were creating content for years before YT monetized it all.

author: IanB
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 09:29:13 pm
content: Quote from: MK14 on October 13, 2023, 06:44:53 pmHere in the USA (the archetypal "cheaper country"), the monthly fee is similar. Where are the cheaper countries you refer to? Places like India, perhaps?

author: MK14
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 09:43:37 pm
content: Quote from: IanB on October 13, 2023, 09:29:13 pmYes, like India. But apparently, for some, you need a credit card from that country, which could be a major stumbling block. But ..QuoteQuoteThe original source here:https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/15hz5ys/found_country_that_works_to_get_youtube_premium/

author: thm_w
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: October 13, 2023, 11:30:37 pm
content: Quote from: Gyro on October 13, 2023, 08:23:06 pmThats what you say, but it is not reality. Direct referral ads are usually the small players, tracking click throughs and subsequent purchases. If they don't get purchases, they'll stop advertising to that market.The big players, Ford, Pfizer, Gillette, etc. they generally don't expect a click through and a purchase. They just want to put their name in your mind. The next time you purchase something you WILL be influenced by the fact that you are familiar with the brand. No I'm not saying you will buy their product, but you will know who they are.BTW the ads on this forum are shown to everyone, there is no payout based on number of views. If you don't like them use ublock to hide them.

author: Gerhard_dk4xp
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: October 14, 2023, 01:38:15 am
content: My computer installation grew old since I updated over update over update for yearsand I decided to do a fresh setup with Linux Mint 21.2 and VMware to run Win10 as aguest for all these CAD applications.I had a boot SSD that showed bad blocks when used heavily but was OKotherwise. That complicated things. :-(I used this combination of programs that seems to make everybody happy.Still experimenting. NoScript inhibits my home banking app. Maybe I canwhitelist it somewhere. You cannot use Download Helper on Google Chrometo download YT videos. Other sites were OK. So I went back to FireFox.Google shot through their own knee.Further on, Debian 12 Linux insisted in the Nouveau video driver. I foundno way to replace it by NVIDIAs own driver. That brought VMware/Win10/Altium Designer to a grinding halt because of 3D support.You could paint a wall and watch it dry between accepted mouse clicks.In Mint 21.2, you just click on Nvidia. ( Altium OK. It's an electronics BBS here, isnt it? )Gerhard