Good and High-Quality Instruments for a Fair or Excellent Price - Page 1
Forum section: electronics / general

author: Trader
author_rank: Frequent Contributor
timestamp: May 21, 2021, 08:23:09 pm
content: In this thread, I'm listing good instrumentsfrom good stores and sellers, many already reviewed in this forum or Youtube. The idea is to help beginners to build their lab with good quality products. I'm not the seller, but I checked all the details before sharing, do the same before buying.Some people have a budget for only low-end instruments, others for a high-end, but most of them would enjoy being informed about a cool instrument with a 25% discount or more, why not?* As many people suggested, I'll post only in this single thread, if you don't like the instruments, the prices, or the sharing, please, go to another place, it's not necessary, neither polite to create polemic here. Please, let the people be free to Know and Decide by themselves.** Constructive comments about your knowledge/experience with the instrument, or hints, etc are always welcomed.

author: bdunham7
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 03:17:51 am
content: Here's a nice oscilloscope, used but in good condition. Highly recommended!https://www.ebay.com/itm/114644658691?hash=item1ab15aaa03:g:W0UAAOSwoIhgCwOFYou see how the eBay link looks different, a little longer than the shortened ones in the posts above?I can't be sure, but I think it is because all those links in the posts above in this thread are eBay affiliate links that have had the 'shorten link' box checked. Someone tell me if I'm wrong.https://partnerhelp.ebay.com/helpcenter/s/article/Link-Generator-Quick-Start-Guide?language=en_USSo, Trader, are you spamming the forum with affiliate links hoping for some commissions?

author: gnif
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 04:01:53 am
content: @Traderno more short links please, post the original eBay link or do not post at all.Edit: I have edited your exiting posts to also use the proper eBay link instead of the short form affiliate link.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 05:21:55 am
content: Quote from: Trader on May 22, 2021, 05:12:55 amThere is no new rule. The mods have always had the final say in what goes and there are lots of unwritten rules, most members here do not need every possible little rule listed in writing in order to use a little etiquette. You've had lots of warning that you were pushing boundaries and irritating people, you have refused to take a hint so the hints have become a bit more direct in hopes that you will get the message. Spam is not welcome in this forum and it never has been. Affiliate links are spam.

author: gnif
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 05:23:26 am
content: Quote from: Trader on May 22, 2021, 05:12:55 amWe added a new rule to prevent users in general spamming affiliate links in the Buy/Sell/Wanted area simply to earn a kickback, it was not directly targeted at you and does not prevent you posting further links. This rule is to discourage people from filling this section of the forum with what is effectively spam using a loophole in the rules. It was not made "Just for" you.Quote from: james_s on May 22, 2021, 05:21:55 amSorry james_s but there is, we added #9 today which may need some wording refinement pending internal discussions.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 05:32:47 am
content: Quote from: gnif on May 22, 2021, 05:23:26 amI guess I just assumed that was never allowed in the first place, I don't recall there ever needing to be a specific rule against affiliate links, nobody has ever posted a bunch of them that I can recall and I just classify them as spam.

author: gnif
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 05:37:04 am
content: Quote from: Trader on May 22, 2021, 05:30:03 amCorrect, which is why you were not penalised for this, however this is now one of the rules, further links posted like this will be breaking the rules.Quote from: Trader on May 22, 2021, 05:30:03 am/spam/noun - irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the internet, typically to a large number of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.Quote from: Trader on May 22, 2021, 05:30:03 amIt's their own store for their own products.

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 05:43:04 am
content: Quote from: Trader on May 22, 2021, 05:30:03 amYou just don't get it do you? You may follow the rules as they are written but you sure don't take a hint. You had a moderator telling you to cool it and you just kept right on doing it insisting you weren't breaking any rules, but like I said, there is a rule that overrides all others, and that is that what Dave (and other mods) say goes, this is not a democracy. I don't know who that is that has a banner advertising his store and I don't care, because I haven't noticed it and I'm pretty sure he's not posting things with no other purpose than to get exposure for his store banner. If you engage in annoying behavior and ignore hints to stop, you risk getting booted. As I said somewhere else, this is arguably one of the highest quality technical forums around, and it is as good as it is because it has excellent moderators that know when to let things slide and when to cut somebody off if they refuse to play nice. If people ask you to stop doing something, just stop doing it! How hard is that? Does everything need a rule?

author: gnif
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 05:56:30 am
content: The link is not the issue, your mass postings motivated by earning affiliate money from eBay is. If we allow you to do it, others will start doing it also. Very quickly this forum will become useless for everyone. How hard is that to understand?

author: james_s
author_rank: Super Contributor
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 06:01:01 am
content: Quote from: Trader on May 22, 2021, 05:48:58 amDude, what is wrong with you? You posted a plethora of useless ebay links to items that were not only completely unremarkable but not even your own items, while surreptitiously hoping to earn a commission. The unanimous reaction from everyone who commented on it was that this was annoying and spammy, yet you are more interested in arguing over the definition of spam than you are about contributing anything meaningful. If you want to post a spam thread go right ahead, the thread will get deleted and you will be banned, will you be happy then? Do you actually want to contribute here or are you just going to keep pushing boundaries and ticking people off? Nobody sees value in the links you have posted, they have made that abundantly clear. This is a technical forum, not a billboard to post things for your financial gain. If you have something you want to sell once in a while, or see something particularly remarkable and want to post a link to it, that's fine, but YOU are responsible for having a sense of what is acceptable etiquette.

author: gnif
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 06:02:37 am
content: I have had enough of this, locking this thread. The rules are in place and if they are breached you wont get a warning but an actual penalty, which is a ban.Edit: on 2nd though, not locked, but this discussion here is finished and this thread must return to it's original topic.

author: gnif
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 06:13:12 am
content: Pollution is pollution even if it's hidden behind a door.Last warning, return to the original topic or incur an actual infraction.

author: gnif
author_rank: Unknown
timestamp: May 22, 2021, 06:44:28 am
content: You were welcome to start a new thread discussing such things in an appropriate place, this thread has been totally derailed.As you can't follow simple instructions this thread is now locked and your account banned.Edit: Ban lifted after further discussions with @Trader however we will be watching