Hannah Gutierrez-Reed: OhNo itsJamie Talk 16:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] KEEP .  She was the lead weapons master on two notable films that filmed within a year ( The Old Way , Rust ), then played a major part in a fatal shooting .  -- Rusty2rusty2rusty ( talk ) 16:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Rusty2rusty2rusty ( talk • contribs ) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  [ reply ] Redirect back to the incident.  This is practically the definition of WP:1EVENT .  Yes, it's gotten lots of coverage because of the industry and Baldwin, but that doesn't make this person notable.  Valereee ( talk ) 16:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I would argue she meets WP:PERP #2 given the sustained news coverage, death of a notable figure, effect on a well-known actor ( Alec Baldwin ), and injuring another.  Then, separately, working on two notable films, both of which had safety issues because of her actions.  -- Rusty2rusty2rusty ( talk ) 16:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I'm not seeing it.  There's another article this can go into (Rust shooting incident) and there are no concerns about article size; we know very little about this woman to build a biography around.  Literally we know her approximate age and the name of her dad.  Baldwin wasn't the victim, and Hutchins doesn't qualify as a "renowned national or international figure".  And no one has suggested an unusual or noteworthy motivation for this crime, it was a horrible accident.  Valereee ( talk ) 16:49, 16 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Crime .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Rust shooting incident , but add categories including something which is a parent cat of the nonexistent Category:Film armorers (can't see a valid subcat of Category:Film people by role , but there must be somewhere appropriate).  Pam D 07:52, 17 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Rust shooting incident per WP:BLP1E .  Subject does not meet the criteria defined in WP:CRIMINAL .  Cielquiparle ( talk ) 08:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect back to Rust shooting incident .  She's not notable outside this event and any biographical information would be better served in said article per the first sentence of WP:CRIME .  Uhai ( talk ) 10:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Rust (upcoming film) : When I created the redirect under the subject's name, it was to aid in searchability (if it ever needed).  There may be enough materials in the future for the subject to have a BLP, but at the moment, it is as what the nom stated, BLP1E, and should not be a standalone article yet.  – robertsky ( talk ) 08:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Rust shooting incident —It is within the purview of the New Mexican judiciary to dispense sanctions for criminal misconduct, not us.  Gutierrez-Reed was grossly negligent in carrying out her duties as armorer, and it lead to her receiving an 18-month prison sentence.  We don't need to further punish her by giving her an entire Wikipedia article.  Other than the shooting, she has done little of note.  Kurtis (talk) 08:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Rust shooting incident .  In WP:CRIME it states that a criminal who is notable for a single incident already covered by another article (in this case Rust shooting incident) does not require a separate biographical article about the person themselves.  Jon.yb093 ( talk ) 9:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC) The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

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