Hero of the Luhansk People's Republic: Rsk6400 ( talk ) 12:24, 18 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Ukraine .  Rsk6400 ( talk ) 12:24, 18 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Awards-related deletion discussions .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: I notified WikiProject Ukraine ( Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#Articles_for_deletion_discussions:_Hero_of_the_Luhansk_/_Donetsk_People's_Republic ) and Talk:Luhansk People's Republic of this discussion.  Rsk6400 ( talk ) 13:03, 18 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete , not a notable award.   It can be mentioned in articles on recipients.  -- Toddy1 (talk) 12:40, 18 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , This article and the similar Hero of the Donetsk People's Republic needs to be expanded and not deleted.  Hero of LPR even finds an article with Reuters when Kadyrov was awarded with it.  Chechen armed forces assemble to honour Putin and his ally Kadyrov .  Shaan Sengupta Talk 15:13, 18 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Don't think that the Reuters article passes WP:SIGCOV .  Rsk6400 ( talk ) 15:37, 18 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete and merge Non-notable, but there should be a couple sentences on it somewhere.  North8000 ( talk ) 17:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge/Delete not notable on it's own right.  Maybe we can make an article along the lines of "Russian Separatist Awards" and include Hero of the Donetsk People's Republic and other even less notable awards.  Scu ba ( talk ) 19:34, 18 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge : probably to Luhansk People's Republic .  Deletion is not preferred per WP:ATD since this is a valid target.  Curbon7 ( talk ) 06:50, 19 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  The nominator should have checked for Russian-language references.  The corresponding article in Russian ru:Герой Луганской Народной Республики has four references and a list of recipients.  Eastmain ( talk • contribs ) 11:01, 19 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The problem with Russian-language sources is that there is no freedom of the press left in Russia.  Notability cannot be established by sources that are unreliable because they are controlled by the Kremlin.  The last of the four sources (Кавказ.Реалии) seems to be reliable, but it doesn't contain more than a statement about the winners of that award.  Rsk6400 ( talk ) 14:38, 19 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .  Award serves to prop up Russian propaganda claims to a region of Ukraine and award is emblem of occupation and not notable on it's own right.  Could create new page on Russian attempts to assert administrative control.  Stoptheprop ( talk ) — Preceding undated comment added 18:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .  Reliable sources simply do not write about this, as it’s fake symbols of a fake country.  How is this not obvious when even its creators dropped all the pretences over a year ago?   — Michael Z .  04:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge per above Parham wiki ( talk ) 17:06, 23 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, North America 1000 13:45, 25 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete non-notable.  Polyamorph ( talk ) 09:49, 26 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep as redirect and merge to LPR main article (probably in the "Recognition and international relations" section).  Possible search term and some of the content is useful (demonstrates the close relations between LPR and Chechyna officials, for example).  Dan the Animator 19:24, 27 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Just because it is award of an internationatly unrecognized entity doesn't mean it isn't notable, we have articles for Artsakh awards.  Nor does the lack of SIGCOV in English sources mean anything, there is lots of SIGCOV in Russian and Ukrainian sources.  Kursant504 ( talk ) 12:17, 30 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] * Delete .  Award serves to prop up Russian propaganda claims to a region of Ukraine and award is emblem of occupation and not notable in it's own right.  Could create new page on Russian attempts to assert symbolic/administrative control.  Stoptheprop ( talk ) 28 October 2023 (UTC) Note: Duplicate vote.  Already voted above.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 12:51, 29 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: merge