Foundational Black American: Doug Weller talk 12:18, 30 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Tariq Nasheed who appears to be the originator and proponent of this.  Don't see it mentioned in any other context.  —DIYeditor ( talk ) 12:25, 30 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups and United States of America .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 13:08, 30 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Tariq Nasheed - This is a trademark term invented and owned by Nasheed.  ( "FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICANS Trademark Application of NASHEED, TARIQ - Serial Number 97309615 Justia Trademarks" . trademarks.justia.com . JUSTICA Trademarks. )  The media outlets jumping on the bandwagon and using the term to appear politically correct, does not change the fact that Nasheed invented the term.  And stands to gain financially every time the term is used.  — Maile ( talk ) 14:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to American Descendants of Slavery as everytime I find this mentioned ADOS is also mentioned, and ADOS is the more common term.  Redirecting to Tariq Nasheed would also be acceptable.  -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions ∆ ° co-ords ° 14:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Tariq Nasheed as viable alternative to deletion per above.  Sal2100 ( talk ) 21:55, 31 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep There are quite a few reasons why the entry Foundational Black Americans should be included on Wikipedia.  I will cite 6 main reasons: Premise 1: Wikipedia aims to be an inclusive and comprehensive platform that provides accurate information on a wide range of subjects, including various social and ethnic groups.  Premise 2: "Foundational Black Americans" is a term that has gained prominence and recognition in contemporary discussions on African American identity and history.  Premise 3: The term "Foundational Black Americans" refers specifically to the descendants of African slaves brought to the United States during the transatlantic slave trade and their contributions to American society.  Premise 4: The inclusion of the term "Foundational Black Americans" on Wikipedia would enhance the platform's coverage of African American history by acknowledging a distinct perspective and self-identification within the community.  Premise 5: The term has been used and recognized by various scholars, activists, and organizations, including mainstream media outlets reporting on the U.S. Census Bureau's distinction between "Black or African American" and "Black or African American (Not Hispanic or Latino) - Foundational Black Americans."  Premise 6: By including the term "Foundational Black Americans" on Wikipedia, the platform can contribute to a more accurate representation and understanding of the African American experience, highlighting the unique challenges and contributions of this specific group.  Conclusion: Therefore, to fulfill its mission of inclusivity and comprehensive coverage, Wikipedia should include the term "Foundational Black Americans" in relevant articles to provide accurate information on the identity and historical context of this distinct African American community.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fijiwahwah ( talk • contribs ) 21:48, 2 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Foundational Black Americans (FBA) have gained significant coverage in various media outlets, including reputable news organizations, academic journals, and online platforms.  This coverage demonstrates their notability as a distinct group within the African American community.  Numerous news articles, both online and offline, have been published on the topic of Foundational Black Americans, discussing their historical contributions, cultural identity, and socio-political impact.  FBA-related topics have been the subject of academic research and analysis, with scholars examining the experiences, achievements, and challenges faced by this specific group within the larger African American population.  Prominent scholars, historians, and experts in the field have written books, articles, and scholarly papers addressing the unique aspects and historical significance of Foundational Black Americans, thereby providing reliable sources of information.  The FBA movement and its proponents have been covered extensively in documentaries, television programs, and podcasts, indicating their impact on public discourse and their place within contemporary social and political discussions.  Foundational Black Americans have been involved in social movements, activism, and advocacy work, resulting in coverage by news outlets and publications that document and report on these activities, further establishing their notability.  FBA organizations and community leaders have been quoted and referenced in news articles, interviews, and public speeches, demonstrating their independent presence and influence within the broader African American community.  Foundational Black Americans have been discussed in online forums, social media platforms, and online communities, where debates and discussions about their historical and cultural significance have taken place, showcasing their relevance and interest among a wide range of individuals.  The term "Foundational Black Americans" has gained recognition and traction within academic circles, civil rights organizations, and grassroots movements, further solidifying its significance and notability in public discourse.  The growing awareness and recognition of Foundational Black Americans have prompted the inclusion of the term and related discussions in educational curricula, textbooks, and scholarly resources, emphasizing their importance as a distinct group within African American history and culture.  Fijiwahwah ( talk ) 01:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete or Merge to Tariq Nasheed .  Never heard of this term, and no sufficient and in-depth coverage from RS to merit a stand-alone article.  Article does not pass our notability test .  Article is more relevant to Tariq,  and I would recommend merging as per our merge guidelines .  2A00:23EE:1300:82A3:A0B1:2C2A:4A1:69DB ( talk ) 19:07, 4 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] * Keep There should be a stand alone article on the term Foundational Black Americans because of the media and cultural relevance and popularity of the term — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dresmond762 ( talk • contribs ) 18:10, 5 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Having a standalone article about Foundational Black Americans on Wikipedia is important for accurate representation, recognition of their unique historical contributions, and addressing systemic biases in historical narratives.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rougeedoogee ( talk • contribs ) 18:45, 5 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  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