Chainsaws in popular culture: It seems to fail WP:GNG as well.  – Laundry Pizza 03 ( d c̄ ) 19:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Popular culture and Technology .  – Laundry Pizza 03 ( d c̄ ) 19:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment: There does seem to be some coverage about this topic, as seen in [ [23] ] and [ [24] ].  If this article is kept, it will need a major rewrite.  Let'srun ( talk ) 20:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep: There is information on the topic, clearly needs much fleshing out and more citations.  I'd love to help rewrite.  Should I disclose a COI here...  I love chainsaws and both their uses and bad physics in pop culture!  Autoshotdc ( talk ) 22:08, 15 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete per WP:NLIST .  Listicles aren't enough, as I've learned in a recent AfD for a list of director cameos.  Clarityfiend ( talk ) 10:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep and improve.  BD2412 T 19:59, 19 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete : Fails NLIST and GNG (take your pick).  Article is a series of listicles with WP:OR commentary.  As a list it fails NLIST, there are not WP:RS showing this is discussed as a group.  As an article, it fails GNG with no WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indpeth .  If kept, the WP:OR needs to be removed.  // Timothy :: talk 01:47, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete this poorly written, poorly sourced attempt at a list that fails NLIST and GNG.  Also, inclusion criteria are not as straightforward as one might expect.  Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 06:02, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Relisting comment: It would help if those advocating keeping the article could list some sources that strengthen their argument.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete per WP:NLIST .  pure listcruft.  Drowssap SMM ( talk ) ( contributions ) 13:41, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete - The current article is a combination of poorly sourced trivia and original research, and I am not convinced by the couple of sources linked above that this is actually a topic that would even pass WP:NLIST or the WP:GNG .  Rorshacma ( talk ) 18:20, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Have nothing else to add on top of the other votes to delete.  MaskedSinger ( talk ) 19:28, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Neutral This article was mostly created by a single user back in 2009.   Seems like a personal essay more than an actual article.   Anyway, I did a full history export to a fandom to preserve it for any who care about this sort of thing.  https://cultural-phenomenons.fandom.com/wiki/Chainsaws_in_popular_culture D r e a m Focus 17:05, 22 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources .  "Ultimate History Horror Movie Chainsaws" .  The article notes: "Because of their immediate association with Tobe Hopper’s The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, an indisputable horror classic, chainsaws have been a fixture of the genre, spanning from Leatherface to Ash Williams to Dead Rising. But motorized saws are also a uniquely American trope; other nations who specialize in scares, like England and Japan, don’t carry the baggage of Westward expansion. Away from the bustle of cities, the ghosts of native genocides haunt the rural American wilds like boogeymen. No tools symbolize the expansion spirit greater than axes and saws, but their modern incarnations have become monstrous." "The 12 Most Memorable Appearances Of Chainsaws In Video Games" .  The article notes: "Gears of War / The reason for this very list. As we mentioned in the intro, the Gears chainsaw bayonet has become a modern classic. It has cemented the series into pop culture history. Still, it’s not the best chainsaw in video games ever. We come on, you already know the answer. You don’t even have to wonder. " "A man, a plan, a chainsaw: How a power tool took center stage in Argentina's presidential race" .  The article notes: "Finchelstein agrees most of Milei’s supporters will view the chainsaw metaphorically, but a fraction may not. Asked about the potential for the charged-up rhetoric to incite violence, Milei’s campaign said the chainsaw is merely a symbol. " "Shack Chat: What's your favorite video game chainsaw?" .  The article notes: "If you’re going to rip and tear, why not do it with fashion and flair? Why punch things when you can render them into tiny little bits with a chainsaw? The original Doom answered those questions way back in the early 90s and has continued that fine tradition since then. Getting the chainsaw made a gory experience even better in what was already a pretty damn violent game for the time. Even today the chainsaw still finds its way into the modern Doom franchise. Although I honestly don’t find the new version as enjoyable as the original as it’s more of a quick-time kill animation nowadays. Still, we’ll always have our precious memories of the original, old-school chainsaw and all the things we turned into meaty chunks with it."  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Chainsaws in popular culture to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline , which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".  बिनोद थारू ( talk ) 16:32, 26 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Ample coverage has been found proving this article meets the general notability requirements.  D r e a m Focus 02:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

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