Viverse: Taking it here to see if there is consensus to keep it a redirect .  – Joe ( talk ) 03:40, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions .  – Joe ( talk ) 03:40, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] There has been quite a bit of in-depth coverage in major publications like ZDNet, VentureBeat, and by Forbes staff writers since the last redirect.  It has become notable at this point so is a keep even if it is a passing fad, as per WP:DEGRADE .  Chagropango ( talk ) 18:50, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment "A redirect might have been a viable option even 2 years ago, but considering that this platform is owned by HTC Corporation, which is striving to build something on the level of the Facebook's Meta, and has garnered media attention in recent months (Probably also in Chinese from the Taiwan media), I'm more inclined to retain and enhance the page."  I’d rather ask the editors from Taiwan or those competent in Chinese to double check the media coverage in the manufacturer’s original language as well.  -- Onetimememorial ( talk ) 20:32, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, L iz Read!  Talk!  05:25, 12 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:20, 19 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Strong Keep .  With >20 cites from across five different years , why is this even up for consideration?  It's a perfectly valid article with a good structure and lots of room for improvement in future.  Last1in ( talk ) 12:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge with HTC Vive .  It seems to have made a splash in headlines, but contrary to what Last1in claims, there is not coverage across "five different years", with only one article being written in 2023 and the remainder being written in 2022.  I'm unconvinced of any lasting notability.  SWinxy ( talk ) 00:47, 20 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I am not convinced of lasting notability, either, but my precognition is acting up .  As for sources, were you perhaps looking at retrieval date?  Publish date shows five years.  2016: VentureBeat; 2019: VentureBeat; 2021: Frater, Patrick (Variety); 2022: Auganix, James Dargan (MVI), Ochanji Sam (VRTimes), others; and 2023: Grant, Rob (VRTimes), VentureBeat.  I was unable to find an actual publication date on a dozen more of them.  Cheers, Last1in ( talk ) 14:47, 20 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The 2016 and 2019 VentureBeat articles make no mention of Viverse.  One is on an app store and the other is on an app subscription package.  SWinxy ( talk ) 20:52, 20 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  The platform is a big enough phenomenon that even indirectly related events have gotten the attention of the VR media: [15] , [16] , [17] .  Deckkohl ( talk ) 17:24, 21 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep