Richard Allan (actor) : Fails WP:GNG Velella Velella Talk 20:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Illinois .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  Meets WP:NACTOR in my view, with multiple significant roles in (very) notable films. - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 22:38, 29 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - obviously meets WP:NACTOR .  A frivolous nomination.  Perspicax ( talk ) 23:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Week Delete - I looked for the roles that made them pass WP:NACTOR as the last two ! votes state but failed to find much.  The articles claims his best know films are With a Song in My Heart (film) , The Snows of Kilimanjaro (1952 film) and Niagara (1953 film) : In With a Song in My Heart Allan is just listed as an unnamed 'dancer' in several sources; I just quick scanned a copy of The Snows of Kilimanjaro and they appear to be just a very small part as a dancer in a bar.  Niagara looks to be the most significant but if that's all I can't see how they meet WP:NACTOR .  So WD for now unless someone can point out what other significant roles they have done.  KylieTastic ( talk ) 17:22, 30 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : If the person pictured ( here ) is indeed our man, then it would seem we ought to keep this.  A minor actor perhaps, yet a close-up love scene with Marilyn Monroe is what it is (and is "unique" and culturally significant – possibly enough to reach WP:NACTOR#2 in and unto itself).  -- Cl3phact0 ( talk ) 20:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Cl3phact0 yes that is them but "close-up love scene" is rather over stretching the two kisses in eleven seconds of footage.  However if anyone want to judge for themselves: See here @12:57 then a telephone call and some whistling @25:40 for ~ a minute, @31:16 another minute of non-speaking part and then he's dead.  KylieTastic ( talk ) 10:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ KylieTastic , thanks for that precision frame-finding!  I'm not claiming he was a major talent, but in this case: a kiss is still a kiss (perhaps).  -- Cl3phact0 ( talk ) 10:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Cl3phact0 no worries, I went looking to try to find a reason to keep which is always preferable, no point in wasting the effort and not sharing.  It's all subjective and for me as this appears to be there most notable role I don't find this only one semi-significant role enough.  Happy to change my ! vote if anyone can point to something more.  KylieTastic ( talk ) 11:02, 31 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Noted.  Nothing here either?  -- Cl3phact0 ( talk ) 11:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] PS: Curious about the German films from the late 50s. Were these bigger roles? What was he doing in Germany? -- Cl3phact0 ( talk ) 18:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Well my German is definitely not good enough for a deep dive on that :) KylieTastic ( talk ) 21:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: speedy delete