San Antonio parade shooting: Does not meet notability:events.    BTW the lead is the main article and the whole lead is copyvio.   I didn't zap it because then there would be no article.  North8000 ( talk ) 19:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Strong Keep .  but clean up the copyvios.  This is part of Category:Mass shootings in Texas .  In and of itself, a sub of Category:Mass shootings in the United States .  And on and on it goes.  Perhaps they're all riddled with copyvios - or not.  How do we say one is more notable than another one?  — Maile ( talk ) 20:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I was using the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (events) to answer that question.   Sincerely, North8000 ( talk ) 20:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I kind of figured you were.   Let's see what others say.   Whatever works for all, is OK with me.  — Maile ( talk ) 21:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Changed to strong keep, With the new sourced background on the killer, I am convinced this article should be kept.  — Maile ( talk ) 02:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] There are lots of ways to misconstrue WP:N .  "We can't know whether anything's notable, but it's in a category" might be the most wild one I've ever seen.  The big ugly alien ( talk ) 22:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Texas .  Shellwood ( talk ) 21:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .  Wikipedia is not a repository of news stories .  The big ugly alien ( talk ) 22:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  The sources found by PARAKANYAA demonstrate significant retrospective coverage.  The big ugly alien ( talk ) 02:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  Has SIGCOV in many books published decades after the event occurred.  See: Covered for several pages in the 2012 book The Anatomy of Motive , published by Simon & Schuster Discussed for a page in Fatal Moments: The Tragedy of the Accidental Killer Discussed a non-insignificant amount (idk how many pages) in They Shoot to Kill A Psycho-survey of Criminal Sniping Discussed in the book Old Riot, New Ranger for at least 1+ full page.  This wasn't a particularly exhaustive search and was only books in Google Books so there's likely more.  I volunteer to add them if the article is kept.  PARAKANYAA ( talk ) 23:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I have now made it less terrible.  Could have done more but this is about as much work as I'm willing to do on an article that might get deleted.  PARAKANYAA ( talk ) 00:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Impressive Thank you for doing this.  You've really added some decent context and sourcing to this article, I'm  now convinced this should be KEEP.  Your editing has shed light on the overall mental picture of the perpetrator. .  — Maile ( talk ) 02:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I also might add that the Texas archives final standoff video is pretty impressive in and of itself.  — Maile ( talk ) 13:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 01:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep With the extensive work done on the article since the nomination, IMO it has transitioned to one that should be kept on GNG grounds.  Sincerely, North8000 ( talk ) 14:40, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Parakanyaa, GNG pass.  Carrite ( talk ) 04:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep