Joe McLaughlin (sportswriter): Boleyn ( talk ) 16:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions .  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:15, 6 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions .  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:15, 6 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions .  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:15, 6 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions .  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:15, 6 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Weak Delete The available online sources don't meet WP:BIO , with the best being a brief obituary .  The others are a notice of winning a minor AP award, quotations, and passing mentions.  There's potential that offline or paywalled sources could put it over the line.  I don't have access to McMurray, Bill: Texas High School Football , Icarus Press, 1985., or the obituary in his home paper: "Former chronicle staffer McLaughlin dies: [3 STAR edition]".  (1997, Nov 26).  Houston Chronicle .  ( ProQuest has only an excerpt.)  If anyone has access to those two sources it could settle things more definitively.  Jfire ( talk ) 17:39, 6 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Move to draft .  If there is a potential for offline sources to support notability, a move to draft will provide time for editors to recruit such sources.  BD2412 T 15:05, 11 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The notability tag was added in 2010.  Editors have had fourteen years to recruit such sources.  Draftifying seems unlikely to help.  Jfire ( talk ) 01:36, 12 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] It appears the only one interested in maintaining the article is his daughter, unfortunately.  Star Mississippi 02:57, 12 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Jfire : If the article is left unedited in draftspace for six months, then it will automatically be deleted per G13.  However, at least there will be an opportunity for improvement and resubmission for mainspace publication.  BD2412 T 21:14, 13 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, L iz Read!  Talk!  22:49, 13 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .  A brief obituary outside his home area just isn't enough, and an obituary in the newspaper he used to work for is clearly not independent so not worth finding in full.  I'm skeptical there is anything in this HS football book(?) either.  JoelleJay ( talk ) 03:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete : doesn't seem to be notability established here.  Draftification just feels like delaying the inevitable deletion, unless an editor indicates interest in improving it, which I don't see here.  Eddie891 Talk Work 16:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete