Big Ballers VR : Oaktree b ( talk ) 01:31, 17 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions .  Oaktree b ( talk ) 01:31, 17 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Hi, this is a notable game.  I'm a developer for the game can say definitely it's very well known especially on TikTok.  It has over 100M views there.  It was released in August 2021 which is just about two years ago.  Release date: https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/3947713001963656/ Views / popularity: https://www.tiktok.com/search? q=%23bigballersvr&t=1689558600364 Additional Sources: - https://www.realityremake.com/articles/3-best-vr-basketball-games-on-the-oculus-quest-2 - One of the top games on App Lab Game List: https://applabgamelist.com/Best - https://bigballersvr.com/blog/big-ballers-vr-frequently-asked-questions - https://bigballersvr.com/blog/the-future-of-vr-basketball QuaintCow ( talk ) 02:01, 17 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Promotional page created by the Developer.  Zero reliable sources presented by the developer.  Zero hits at all on WP:VG/S 's reliable source search. Not listed in any of the accepted review aggregators and no reviews available that route either. -- ferret ( talk ) 02:33, 17 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep This isn't a promotional page. I've written factual information in a neutral manner. There's a severe shortage of VR game articles in general. Probably for this exact reason of factual information getting deleted regularly. Many games go viral on closed social platforms. Wikipedia brings this information to the open and public. Why are we preventing that from happening? Please reconsider requesting a deletion. QuaintCow ( talk ) 03:17, 17 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Because we aren't here to promote your product, we only consider items that have been covered in other reliable media sources. Oaktree b ( talk ) 11:49, 17 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] We're looking for reviews of the game in the likes of PCMag, Cnet, Common Sense Media, the New York Times and the like. Oaktree b ( talk ) 15:55, 17 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Wikipedia is not an advertising tool, this article doesn't have coverage in reliable sources. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ ) 03:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete per WP:N . I can't find any coverage in reliable sources. APK whisper in my ear 05:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Game is not notable with its current press coverage, which is borderline non existent. The Dev appears to be active and passionate, given their commentary here, and I wish them luck, but until media pop up like reviews and otherwise dedicated articles about the game itself, and not just as a mention in a "top 5" listicle, it's not suited for wikipedia in its current form. Tytrox ( talk ) 14:23, 18 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete As others have reiterated, it lacks independent coverage. All the best to the developer, who has done the right thing in declaring an interest. Sadly, 'notability' as a general concept isn't the same as the notion of 'notability' as an editorial standard used in Wikipedia, and even if it is played and enjoyed by people, this article does fall very short of having reliable, independent secondary coverage.  Vrxces ( talk ) 00:27, 19 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete