Victor Nirennold : While I appreciate the recognition, I believe that my notability does not warrant a Wikipedia page, and I kindly propose that the page be removed on those grounds.  As a retired professional football player who has transitioned to a completely different field, this page has been causing me more harm than good.  Recruiters continue to bring up my past profession during job interviews, and unfortunately, they often hold onto various stereotypes.  Despite trying to eliminate any trace of my prior career online, this page has been a persistent source of frustration.  I am kindly reaching out to you for your assistance in removing the page.  Thank you in advance for your help.  Robinho35 ( talk ) 14:00, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions .  Robinho35 ( talk ) 14:00, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and France .  Shellwood ( talk ) 14:09, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football 's list of association football-related deletions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:13, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - According to Soccerway , you joined a team a couple months ago and have played 8 games already, the most recent in mid-March.  Anyways, I found [19] , [20] , [21] , [22] , [23] , [24] , [25] , [26] , [27] , [28] , [29] , [30] , [31] , among many many more sources.  Article may needs improvement, but not deletion.  Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk ) 19:02, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - player played professionally for a long time in seven different countries and its not like deleting this page will cause no one to know hes a former pro footballer by googling his name.  googling his name gives pages upon pages of results saying hes a pro footballer.  in fact, his career seems to be on-going as of the fact he signed for Gloucester City two months ago and has since played 8 times during the last 2 months.  its not like the page has a personal life section saying he did a bunch of crime or anything.  theres no reason any employer would hate him for it and if he were to be applying for coaching roles playing in seven different countries would surely be quite the benefit.  similar for other roles outside football really, working in so many countries seems like a benefit.  also no proof hes the player in question...with a username named after robinho Muur ( talk ) 20:06, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Thanks I understand you are right it will not fully disappear from the internet that I used to play pro football but it will already help me a lot as wikipedia is a main website and that is the first website that anybody would check for references.  My professional career is now already over I retired a year ago and Gloucester City is an amateur part-time football team where I play for leisure it should not even be mentioned on the page.  I'm now a software developer, I work in the IT field, and I'm sorry to disagree with you but this page has been nothing but deserving me, there is no benefit at all on me having my name mentioned on it, as it has been brought up to me several times by recruiters that I should delete this page if possible.  And to finish I am the player in question I can send you my ID's in private or whatever else you want to prove that it is me and makes the process easier.  Robinho35 ( talk ) 22:03, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] even if it is you as the actual player... i dont think wikipedia works that way?  like, if donald trump came and was like delete my page cuz of all the controversies listed on his page hed get laughed at.  he/you are a celeb that has played nearly 200 games professionally in 7 different countries.  you/he was playing in the spl only a year ago.  deleting this wont do anything, there are still the thousands of pages about you/him.  also, playing for a semi pro team is still relevant.  lots of players from the lower leagues go on loan there for example.  some teams in that division are even pro.  if you admit youre still playing for them, your playing career isnt actually even over.  what are you even saying in these interviews, that you just magically spawned age the age of 32 you kinda have to bring up you played/play football for 20+ years?  even if you dont bring it up, which you really should, a 5 second google will find you whether youre on wikipedia or not.  wouldn't you have to disclose that youre still being paid to play football?  if if this was deleted, google images will show your face playing football to anyone who puts your name in.  Muur ( talk ) 22:23, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep There's also this bio from France Bleu [32] .  Subject is more than notable for wikipedia.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 23:14, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep This is bizarre.  I don't believe the editor is the person in question, as the player's LinkedIn profile specifically talks about his football career!  Either Victor Nirennold is insane or someone is pretending to be him to get his article deleted for some bizarre reason.  Regardless, subject is notable.08:14, 16 April 2023 (UTC) Keep , as definitely passes notability standards.  -- Mvqr ( talk ) 09:29, 16 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - I would support deletion if the case were marginal in terms of notability but since Nirennold has significant coverage in numerous countries, I don't feel deletion would be appropriate.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:53, 16 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per sources above which show notability.  Giant Snowman 15:12, 16 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per sources above.  Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk ) 21:38, 16 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per above participants (esp. Muur; cf. the Streisand effect )--and wishing you and your next job pretty well! (Not every day the subject of an article--or a close connection thereof--actually gets to speak out.) -- Slgrandson ( How's my egg-throwing coleslaw? ) 13:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment - The coverage linked above is generally routine/trivial, with the France Bleu article standing out as in-depth coverage.  I'm skeptical that the nominator is the subject of the article; the editing pattern doesn't follow (e.g., why did they try to speedy delete another French footballer's article?).  I'm on the fence about deletion, although perhaps there is something in addition to the France Bleu piece to suggest the GNG is met?  Jogurney ( talk ) 14:18, 19 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep