Presidentialism metrics : Looks like it was created by V-Dem, so it will remain a republishing of their index.  Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 19:57, 8 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Social science .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:59, 8 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment A source in the article links [5] which discusses a couple other metrics "prespow1", "prespow2".  I realize this article is nearly 2 months old without an update adding those, but it's possible this could be fleshed out to not jus be a republish of a single index.  — siro χ o 20:13, 8 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge with the editor's other article Democracy indices (V-Dem) , or delete.  I'm not even sure what any of this means, except the only definition I find of "indice" that it's another word for "index".  — Maile ( talk ) 22:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Other presidentialism metrics/indices/scores before V-Dem are used in literature like presidential power scores.  [1] But I agree there was no progress adding those, so I'm ok with Merge back into Presidential system#Presidentialism metrics .  HudecEmil ( talk ) 07:42, 9 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Nominator comment : Support merge.  Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 12:15, 9 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Presidentialism#Presidentialism metrics .  There is no additional information to merge, the bulk of this article is already taken from Democracy indices (V-Dem) .  - Indefensible ( talk ) 05:45, 14 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge or redirect is fine as WP:ATD .  — siro χ o 06:00, 14 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] There is nothing new here, or something of substance, at least.  A Redirect would be the merciful choice since a merge would only move source-unsupported text elsewhere.  Why do we create such airy pap, one wonders.  - The Gnome ( talk ) 12:01, 14 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect .  The index itself is of questionable provenance and methodology, and the sources for it are weak, narrow and not really helpful to understanding the subject or the more general topic.  Merging would simply move the problem and the monumental (and monumentally uninformative) table.  Cheers, Last1in ( talk ) 15:15, 14 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] References ^ Doyle, David, and Robert Elgie.  "Maximizing the reliability of cross-national measures of presidential power."  British Journal of Political Science 46.4 (2016): 731-741.  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Relisting comment: Relisting discussion.  It's clear that the outcome here will be a Redirect or Merge but we have 3 different target articles proposed and it shouldn't come down to the closer doing "Eeny meeny miny moe".  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, L iz Read!  Talk!  19:56, 15 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment in addendum to my ! vote, I think the target should be Presidentialism#Presidentialism metrics .  Whether it stays there long term or moves to another article is more of page-level editorial decision, but that's the most precise merge/redirect as of this discussion.  — siro χ o 20:15, 15 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I concur with siroxo 's suggestion for a redir target.  Cheers, Last1in ( talk ) 21:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Presidentialism#Presidentialism metrics .  Per nom and others, not notable enough to warrant a standalone article.  Per siroxo, this would be the most precise merge/redirect target.  Sal2100 ( talk ) 21:45, 15 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment Siroxo and Sal2100 , that page is a redirect.  Did you mean its redirect target, Presidential system#Presidentialism metrics ?  I have a script installed that shows redirects in a different color (in this case, green).  L iz Read!  Talk!  00:27, 16 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Thanks, sorry, my eyes read the same word and didn't notice the redirect.  Yes I do mean that page.  — siro χ o 00:28, 16 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Ditto.  I meant Presidential system#Presidentialism metrics as well.  Sal2100 ( talk ) 18:48, 16 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: redirect