List of programmes broadcast by Zee Kannada : In addition, these are not original programs, they are remakes or adaptions.  WP:NOTTVGUIDE would apply.  Possible redirect to Zee Kannada as an WP:ATD but would not suggest a merge unless any of these can be found to be original programming.  CNMall41 ( talk ) 18:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The Kannada remakes/adaptations are (all, I think) original productions for the channel (different cast, crew, filming location, obviously different dialogues and so on).  Also, I personally do not think it is fair to remove so much material as you did early this month before nominating a page to deletion.  It was unsourced, OK, true, but the page is tagged for lack of sources.  Anyway, that's my position regarding Afds in general: even unsourced material (those series you removed were broadcast on ZK and that was verifiable) or even so-so sources, unless it is about a living person, should not in my view be massively removed before nominations. - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 16:49, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television , Lists ,  and India .  CNMall41 ( talk ) 18:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : as a detailed article/ the page about Zee Kannada (as I think should be the case for all pages of this type).  WP:SPLITLIST applies imv as I've already explained extensively why I think that in at least one other Afd.  If REALLY other users think a keep is not OK, redirect and merge to the main page.  But then I should think users who propose this outcome should do it and as soon as the decision is taken, to avoid pages redirecting here being deleted.... .Absolutely opposed to deletion of this type of pages.  - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 16:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC) (Clarification: if redirect is the path chosen users who suggest this outcome should imv make sure the merge is performed (and that includes not only the merge itself but dealing with all redirects from pages about series and other programs) and this, as soon as the decision is taken, to avoid pages redirecting to the new Redirect being deleted.... ).  (repeating myself but cannot amend my comment, as another user already !voted below)- My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 17:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] But again, these are not original programs so WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies.  -- CNMall41 ( talk ) 19:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I think most are original programs (some are remakes, not just dubbed versions but original productions for ZK nonetheless but since when don't we consider remakes proper film creations).  Check Category:Zee Kannada original programming and check original cast and cast in the remake.  Some other programs may be just dubbed in Kannada but most of those are with a different cast, which shows they're not just dubbed versions but different and original productions.  I think there is a misunderstanding on the acception of "original" which is here used as  1) a work that was produced for/by the channel although being based on  2) a story that is inspired by or following another that was produced in another language sometime before (and that you can call the original version or work, but with a different acception of the term).  You can blame Zee Kannada for lacking imagination but that does not make their productions non-original programs.  - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 20:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Zee Kannada : WP:NLIST applies without any special exception and that in general lists of programs, where needed, can be handled within the article about the channel, and don't generally merit a stand-alone list article, unless such a list would pass the scrutiny per WP:NLIST.  WP is not a WP:NOTDIRECTORY nor WP:NOTTVGUIDE — Saqib ( talk I contribs ) 16:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Zee Kannada .  Zakaria ښه راغلاست ( talk ) 11:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] This list is not offering enough.  Redirect to Zee Kannada .  REDISCOVERBHARAT ( talk ) 13:22, 28 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete or Redirect to Zee Kannada .  Wikipedia is not a TV Guide.  Pages like this should not exist only to list the programmes that the channel offers but should also describe the site in an encyclopedic manner, offering detail on achievements.  Per nom and fails WP:NLIST .  RangersRus ( talk ) 13:25, 28 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge page to Zee Kannada so you don't lose the information.  DareshMohan ( talk ) 05:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: redirect