Michael Fishel: Vladimir.copic ( talk ) 23:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Artists .  Vladimir.copic ( talk ) 23:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete - WP:BEFORE does not turn up any reliable coverage.  The article itself only has one source, the subject's webpage.  The subject's occupation is listed as game designer in the infobox, but the lede states he is an illustrator.  The last sentence makes no sense.  -- WomenArtistUpdates ( talk ) 01:17, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete as per nomination.  Does not appear to have any degree of significant notability aside from fairly vague and passing collaborations with other more notable artists.  A MINOTAUR ( talk ) 02:47, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete - Subject of the article does not meet notability thresholds for WP:NARTIST , WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO .  All I could find in an online search was social media, links to where one could buy his books (but no book reviews), and links to the shops that sell his posters.  Article should not be retained.  Netherzone ( talk ) 03:39, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete - Found nothing.  Timur9008 ( talk ) 14:32, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Indiana .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:58, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note that after this AfD was opened, someone not participating here deleted a couple of poorly formatted references to works illustrated by this gentleman.  The edit summary of "patent nonsense" was concerning and inaccurate, so anyone looking for other coverage of him might want to look back through history and see if those refs might help identify coverage of him or his work.  Jclemens ( talk ) 19:21, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment: I did a search for sources and found only two passing mentions of people who have the same name (who may or may not be the same person as the subject of the article): Garmel, Marion Simon (1975-05-20).  " '500' Art Exhibition Better Every Year" .  Indianapolis News .  Archived from the original on 2023-08-21 .  Retrieved 2023-08-21 – via Newspapers.com .  The article notes: "The surprise of the show is the interesting younger-artist work, some seen for the first time: Michael Fishel's fantastic forest pieces, right out of Henri Rousseau; ..." "Washington Gallery Relocates" .  The Indianapolis Star .  1977-12-04.  Archived from the original on 2023-08-21 .  Retrieved 2023-08-21 – via Newspapers.com .  The article notes: "From Bloomington there will be works by ... There will also be a painting by Martinsville artist Michael Fishel."  Cunard ( talk ) 00:46, 21 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete per nom.  No reliable coverage found.  This feels like a PR page.  Fails WP:GNG and does not pass WP:BASIC .  - AuthorAuthor ( talk ) 17:34, 21 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Move to Draft - the article has been nearly rewritten from scratch, and while it may not clearly meet the GNG yet, I believe this topic may have potential in the future.  ( Jclemens , I will note that some of the removed material has been added back with better sourcing.)  BOZ ( talk ) 00:21, 22 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .  I could not find any useful RS.  Jacona ( talk ) 19:15, 23 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete per nom  -- Devoke water 16:31, 24 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete