MaryAnne Sapio: Lacks in depth secondary sources needed to establish notability .  Let'srun ( talk ) 19:27, 21 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People , California ,  and Washington, D.C. .  Let'srun ( talk ) 19:27, 21 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Non-notable lobbyist.  This is the only source [28] , she exercises at the gym.  Nothing for notability.  Her husband being a marine isn't notable either.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 20:30, 21 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Beauty pageants .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:59, 21 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete No sources that would result in this person being notable.  I can find various "profiles" (linkedin, professional sites, etc.) but no other info about her.  Oddly, the first resource links to a news story about her husband being killed in a car accident, which isn't mentioned in the article.  All rather odd.  Lamona ( talk ) 00:02, 24 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete due to lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources required to satisfy Wikipedia requirements for "notability".  Of the 141 hits found on ProQuest, most were bylines by her as VP of Fed Govt Affairs for the AANP, particularly a recurring column in The Journal for Nurse Practitioners , plus public commentary issued as press releases by the AANP where she is listed as the main media contact.  There was surprisingly little about her as Miss California, except for a couple of brief quotes as a Miss America contestant – she lost $20 her first time in a casino, "Teachers are important".  (Not every contestant gets quoted though, so good for her.)  The best piece of coverage about her was a paragraph in Politico (2013) about her heading up the new lobbying effort by the AANP coming from the American Health Care Association; but that's all it says.  Other than that, she gets two passing mentions in The Washington Post : mentioned once as one of three women who made a "beeline" for buying used pilates equipment when a fitness guru decided to downsize (link per Oaktree b above), and how much she and her spouse hold their house for.  Cielquiparle ( talk ) 00:39, 24 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] A search on Newspapers.com yields a total of 9 hits, 8 of which were Miss California-related mentions connected to the Miss America pageant: in addition to the two topics mentioned above, we find out she danced to the swing tune "Go Daddy O" and craves carvel ice cream and cannolis.  But as it turns out, she also managed to get several paragraphs in other pieces, including a humorous anecdote about her and Miss Nebraska doing an impromptu comedy routine in the casino in Atlantic City for a reporter ( Asbury Park Press ) – and, most impressive, recognition for her decision to invest the scholarship money she was paid as Miss California in the stock market to pay for law school ( Press of Atlantic City ).  Finally, there's a photo of her at a society fundraiser in South Florida Sun Sentinel .  In any case, while the Miss America-related coverage does give us a better sense of her as a person, it still isn't enough for a standalone article about her as a lobbyist.  Cielquiparle ( talk ) 01:03, 24 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete - I found no evidence that the subject meets WP:GNG .  Please ping me if good sources are identified.  BennyOnTheLoose ( talk ) 18:24, 27 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete