Matthew Irmas: The three citations are all reviews of films associated with the subject, failing WP:SIGCOV .  The article is over a decade old and has been a stub the entire time, I believe both because the subject is not notable enough to generate much interest and because there has been little to add in terms of reliable, substantive, secondary coverage.  Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions .  Vegantics ( talk ) 19:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3 ).   I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 April 29 .   — cyberbot I Talk to my owner :Online 19:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Directed 3 notable films, thus meeting WP:DIRECTOR .  NB- I DeproDed the page today (same nominator; see article TP) - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 20:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Procedural note: Is this the second Afd for this director??  Where is the first? - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 20:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Forgive my inexperienced Wikipedia editing, I regarded my nomination for deletion earlier today as the first nomination, making this the second.  I couldn't find clarification on if the nomination count only applied to those that underwent a discussion.  Vegantics ( talk ) 20:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] OK, thanks (not a big deal, now that this is clear; this page can be moved (renamed) later).  - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 20:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Thanks!  Vegantics ( talk ) 20:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 21:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  Meets WP:CREATIVE #3, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews".  He served as a director for three notable films and was also producer for the film Three of Hearts .  MoviesandTelevisionFan ( talk ) 00:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  The article could definitely be expanded, but it does pass notability guidelines at this point in time.  You can always try to make the guidelines more strict, but I don't know that there would be consensus in making them so strict that having 2+ notable films wouldn't give notability to a director.  To be fair, I think I know where you're coming from.  However keep in mind that Wikipedia isn't limited to the same things that say, Brittanica would be.  There are no page limits and we haven't been given any sort of austere limits on server space.  Also keep in mind that what is considered to be useful or encyclopedic is kind of dependent on the individual.  A page like this may not be helpful for you or I beyond entertainment value, but someone writing an article or book about 90s films could find it useful.  If/when notability standards get strict enough to where a page like this would be deleted, then it can be re-addressed then.  ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 13:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I appreciate the perspectives in this vote.  My interpretation of WP:N was that a subject should meet WP:NBASIC and only then be considered under WP:NDIRECTOR , but am seeing from this discussion that others read it diifferently.  Vegantics ( talk ) 15:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep 3 notable films should be fine for BASIC Me Da Wikipedian ( talk ) 09:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep