Maurice Young : Also, Find a Grave is not a reliable source.  Knowledgegatherer23 ( Say Hello ) 14:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions .  Knowledgegatherer23 ( Say Hello ) 14:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete : I can't find much, it appears he only paid for 6 games in 1927.  [47] .  This is about all there is [48] Oaktree b ( talk ) 15:10, 24 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Baseball and Oklahoma .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 15:18, 24 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : I found an obituary for Maurice Young , but only a few passing mentions from Monarchs boxscores in 1927, all of which simply list him as "Young" (the pitcher, not to be confused with his brother, Tom , a catcher), "M. Young" or "Morris Young" .  He is listed under his middle name "Doolittle" as playing for the Tulsa Black Oilers in 1929 and the Arkansas City Colored Beavers in 1934, but these are once again only passing mentions.  As for his obituary's claim that he was the first Black player on the Kansas City House of David Club (not to be confused with the Cuban House of David ), I haven't been able to find any  articles mentioning this.  I also couldn't find him in other Monarchs boxscores from years outside 1927, despite his obituary stating he played for the Monarchs in the 1930s and 1940s.  Perhaps someone else may find a first name he was more commonly known by?  He does have a short write-up in James A. Riley's The Biographical Encyclopedia of the Negro Baseball Leagues, but its only three lines and doesn't mention any other teams besides the 1927 Monarchs.  Penale52 ( talk ) 16:42, 24 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 18:50, 24 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment It's disappointing that maybe 1/3 of the Negro league players articles will likely become victims of the changes that obliterated NBASE.   Unfortunately, if a Negro leaguer played in 100 games, it's possible only 10 or less were even bothered to be covered by any source.   Unless they were an all-star, died young or, regrettably, arrested there is negligible mention of them.   This player has 12 documented games and 65 innings pitched with one of the premier Negro league teams (KC Monarchs) during their heyday (1927), and the research done by Penale above suggest there is more to Young then just the 1927 Monarchs; but combined with the contemporary racism and lack of 24/7 sports coverage, it is hard to find the necessary reliable sources.   I would prefer to see some Negro league clause in NBASE allowing leniency, but I don't know how to line that up with GNG.   Rgrds.  -- Bison X ( talk ) 05:52, 25 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] At worst, redirect to List of Negro league baseball players (S–Z) , where he is listed ( {{ R from list entry }} ). — Bagumba ( talk ) 05:45, 27 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

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