ISO/IEEE 11073 Personal Health Data Standards: Fails WP:GNG .  - UtherSRG (talk) 13:08, 11 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Health and fitness and Technology .  UtherSRG (talk) 13:08, 11 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, L iz Read!  Talk!  06:37, 18 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Engineering , Medicine , Computing ,  and Software .  UtherSRG (talk) 11:31, 18 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Per Nom Seawolf35 ( talk ) 17:37, 18 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  ISO standards have a large effect on the products we use and are well-covered by articles in the technical literature.  This one could use some independent sources.  We cover ISO/IEEE standards extensively; see Category:ISO standards and Template:ISO standards .  There is also ISO/IEEE 11073 and IEEE 11073 service-oriented device connectivity , which has appropriate sources.  StarryGrandma ( talk ) 18:52, 18 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, L iz Read!  Talk!  05:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep as @ StarryGrandma says, these standards are important and have a significant impact on industry.   That's especially true in a field like personal health devices.   Questions of how to implement ISO 11073 have been the subject of entire academic articles.  For example: Consideration of the generated network utilization of the IEEE 11073 SDC standard , Current Directions in Biomedical Engineering, Volume 8 Issue 2 (2022) Applying the ISO/IEEE 11073 Standards to Wearable Home Health Monitoring Systems, Journal of Clinical Monitoring and Computing (2005) 19: 427–436 DOI: 10.1007/s10877-005-2033-7 (cited in article).  Integration of a surgical robotic arm to the connected operating room via ISO IEEE 11073 , SDC Wickel, Noah ; Vossel, Manuel ; Yilmaz, Okan ; Radermacher, Klaus ; Janß, Armin, International journal for computer assisted radiology and surgery, 2023, Vol.18 (9), p.1639-1648 It is disheartening to see an article this well developed nominated for deletion, apparently based solely on some editor's decision to add a notability tag 13 years ago.  No support given for the claim that it "Fails GNG".   In fact, a simple google scholar search (mandated by WP:BEFORE ) shows hundreds of articles entirely devoted to this standard.  Admittedly many are from IEEE, but all it takes is a it of additional searching/filtering to find independent sources.  Per WP:NEXISTS that should be enough to avoid an AfD.   No indication is given by @ UtherSRG as to why no acceptable sources exist.  Oblivy ( talk ) 07:48, 25 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : This topic looks to be very widely and deeply covered in the academic literature at least, just from a few minutes of clicking around here .  I think that taking your pick of any pair of sources there establishes GNG.  - Astrophobe ( talk ) 02:45, 27 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep