Food Detectives: Nothing found in a BEFORE.  Tagged for notability since 2017 Donald D23 talk to me 03:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink , Television ,  and United States of America .  Donald D23 talk to me 03:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to List of Food Network original programming#F Short-lived, but a proper ATD.  Nate • ( chatter ) 20:27, 14 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources .  Selection of two sources: Camacho, Melissa (2022-07-01).  "Food Detectives. TV review by Melissa Camacho, Common Sense Media" .  Common Sense Media .  Archived from the original on 2023-04-16 .  Retrieved 2023-04-16 .  The review notes: "The show's unique combination of food science, pop culture, and experimentation creates an amusing formula that offers entertaining but teachable moments for both kids and adults. Granted, watching food techs slice, dice, eat, run, spin, and even sleep in the name of science may not sound very interesting, but Allen's quick wit adds flavor to what could be considered bland technical conversations. Kids and adults who are interested in science and/or cooking will certainly find this show appealing. Trivia buffs will also be engaged. " Hale, Mike (2008-08-05).  "TV Review: 'Food Detectives'. Private Eye for the Food Guy: Cuisine Sleuths on the Case" .  The New York Times .  Archived from the original on 2023-04-16 .  Retrieved 2023-04-16 .  The review notes: "With Mr. Allen straining to add some levity, “Food Detectives” will live and die by the questions it asks. In the premiere last week, it hit one for four. A test of what cools down your mouth after eating spicy food was interesting. (Bread and dairy products help; soda and beer only make things worse.) But the other three segments were thuddingly unsurprising: [explanation] ... Those who complain that the Food Network’s best days are in the not-too-recent past you know who you are, and you’re blogging right this second will only feel more disillusioned after watching “Food Detectives.”  If they’re acolytes of David Rosengarten and his former show “Taste,” they may be positively depressed."  Additional sources: "Allen is your 'Queer Eye' turned food spy" .  Quick .  2008-07-29.  Archived from the original on 2023-04-16 .  Retrieved 2023-04-16 .  The article notes: "...  launches Food Detectives to explain the science behind what we eat. And rather than lecture his audience like some boring chemistry teacher, Allen plans to inject plenty of humor into the learning.  Tonight's episode explores how to best quench the burn of a hot pepper, the most effective way to keep a refrigerator smelling fresh and if there is any validity to the "five-second rule" concerning dropped food." "As seen on TV: Ted Allen likes to play with his food" .  Miami Herald .  2008-07-28.  Archived from the original on 2023-04-16 .  Retrieved 2023-04-16 .  The article notes: "Allen is finally the star. Food Detectives, which premieres 9 p.m. Tuesday on the Food Network, explores the science of eating, probing such mysteries as the five-second rule. Allen calls it "MythBusters meets Good Eats meets [Watch] Mr. Wizard. "" Rosen, Jill (2008-07-16). "All Eyes on Foodie Ted Allen – 'Queer Eye' Star, Food-Show Judge Shares Culinary Know-How at Baltimore Event" . The Baltimore Sun . Archived from the original on 2023-04-16 . Retrieved 2023-04-16 . The article notes: "On his new show Food Detectives, which debuts July 29 on the Food Network, Allen will investigate the truth of food myths - like whether an apple a day keeps the doctor away or if swallowed gum really takes seven years to digest.  In the first episode, which was filmed in Baltimore's Little Italy, chef Jerry Pellegrino of South Baltimore's Corks is asked to make the hottest hot wings he can muster so that Allen's team can try to cool mouth fire.  Also, a Johns Hopkins biologist will help Allen test the five-second rule regarding dropped food. " Collins, Michael (2008-07-29). "Allen, 'Food Detectives' are going on the prowl" . The Press of Atlantic City . Scripps Howard News Service . Archived from the original on 2023-04-16 . Retrieved 2023-04-16 . The article notes: "In fact, Allen doesn't really cook on "Food Detectives," which debuts at 9 tonight on the Food Network.  The show's focus is on science as much as it is on food.  The series promises to explore the connection between science and food by revealing the answers to some of the world's most puzzling food mysteries.  With the help of editors from Popular Science magazine, each half-hour episode will involve experiments designed to answer age-old questions like, "Will an apple a day really keep the doctor away?"" "Ted Allen takes on food facts, fables" . United Press International . 2008-07-28. Archived from the original on 2023-04-16 . Retrieved 2023-04-16 . The article notes: "Allen's show, Food Detectives, attempts to address questions, myths and rumors about food and answers or debunks them through scientific experiments.  ...  Food Detectives, which debuts Tuesday and previewed Sunday, uses culinary technicians and the scientific know-how supplied by the science and technology magazine Popular Science to conduct experiments to find the truth behind most food myths. " "Food detectives search for truth" . Townsville Bulletin . 2011-03-01. Archived from the original on 2023-04-16 . Retrieved 2023-04-16 . The article notes: "The 23 episodes cover just about everything you can think of when it comes to puzzling food questions the first few episodes covered topics such as "Can I really eat something off the floor if I pick it up in less than 5 seconds? How do I stop my mouth from burning after I've eaten spicy food?" and "Is the baking soda in my fridge doing anything?"" There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Food Detectives to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline , which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard ( talk ) 11:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to List of Food Network original programming#F . Promo, routine sources for a short lived TV show. Wikipedia is not IMDB. // Timothy :: talk 13:56, 18 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comments - I recall this fondly (food and science education? yes!) but unsure if the sources found can push it over barely . Bearian ( talk ) 15:19, 19 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] It was a good show :) but the sourcing is very routine, nothing that every other show listed on List of Food Network original programming couldn't produce (and it's already packed with cruft articles). // Timothy :: talk 08:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] A very negative 459-word review in The New York Times is not "very routine" sourcing.  Cunard ( talk ) 06:57, 21 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment: Food Detectives received a 366-word positive review in Common Sense Media and a very negative 459-word review in The New York Times .  Common Sense Media is a reliable source according to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Common Sense Media .  There is more than enough coverage to meet Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline with just the Common Sense Media and The New York Times articles, though there is additional coverage in the other sources I've listed here.  I expanded the article on 16 April 2023 to add these sources.  There is a lot more content that can be added from the sources but what is already in the article is already sufficient to rule out a redirect to List of Food Network original programming#F .  A lot of encyclopedic content would be lost if the page were redirected.  Cunard ( talk ) 08:16, 20 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, North America 1000 14:04, 21 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - Cunard found two in-depth sources an additional coverage, meets GNG.  matt91486 ( talk ) 00:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

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