Ness (EarthBound) : His entire reception is based around his Smash appearances, with most of it being summed up as "Ness is more known for Smash than Earthbound and is pretty fun to play."  I did find this pretty good source while searching https://www.nintendojo.com/features/editorials/best-of-2012-the-church-of-ness-earthbounds-religious-overtones But I couldn't really find much more, as most discussion is just about Earthbound's plot than about Ness as a character.  Given that Ness already has a section in the main Earthbound article, a merge there I feel would work as a perfect AtD, given that Ness has some legacy beyond his game, even if it isn't really enough for an article, in my book.  Has one ever considered Magneton?  Pokelego999 ( talk ) 20:10, 10 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements , Science fiction and fantasy ,  and Video games .  Has one ever considered Magneton?  Pokelego999 ( talk ) 20:10, 10 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge.  Per nom.  Ness doesn't have any notability beyond EarthBound and Super Smash Bros.  His entire "concept and creation" section boils down to "he was in EarthBound" and "the player can select his favorite food and favorite thing", nothing about the actual creation of the character or even Itoi's thoughts on the character.  The "Appearances" section is just describing the events of EarthBound, and his Reception is 99% Smash.  Two of the sources detailing him as one of the best RPG characters are listicles and have nothing substantive.  -- ThomasO1989 ( talk ) 23:04, 10 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge .  As is noted, the actual proof of notability is pretty light.  That said, I wonder if there isn't dev info, since I know Itoi talked in pretty great detail about even minor characters in Mother 3.  - Cukie Gherkin ( talk ) 23:10, 10 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge per above.  Greenish Pickle!  ( 🔔 ) 23:13, 10 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge Ness is mostly known from Smash, but even that coverage is relatively slim.  I don't see a ton of SIGCOV here.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ ) 12:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge per others.  Thomas put it the best though.  Also Sans is Ness Conyo14 ( talk ) 20:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep or merge with the character section of Mother in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE .  -- Rtkat3 ( talk ) 02:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] That section was literally added by you today and currently has nothing inside of it. A merge to EarthBound seems more logical, given we aren't constructing an entirely new section solely to accommodate it. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk ) 17:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Now some stuff has been added to it as a start. Of course it was also established just in case you took the AFD on his archenemy Giygas next. -- Rtkat3 ( talk ) 17:58, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Giygas looks fine right now, and I have no intention of nominating it.  Has one ever considered Magneton?  Pokelego999 ( talk ) 22:51, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge to EarthBound#Ness per nomination.   I honestly do not see the logic at all of merging this to main franchise page, rather than to the article on the game in which he was the main character, and where a section on him already exists to merge to.  Rorshacma ( talk ) 21:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge per above.  Videogameplayer99 ( talk ) 09:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: merge