Jennifer Byrne Presents : Found nothing to support inclusion in a BEFORE.  Last episode listed is from 2012, but infobox says still airing, so is it even still on?  Donald D23 talk to me 00:18, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Australia .  Donald D23 talk to me 00:18, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Donaldd23 , according to the Book Club website , the final episode of this spinoff series was broadcast on 17 May 2016, featuring Andy Griffiths , a children’s book author.  Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 ( his talk page ) 09:22, 25 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Donaldd23 : This YouTube video points to an episode dated 24 December 2018; however, it may have uploaded to YouTube on that date.  Anyway, assuming it ran until May 2016, would the additional content and the fact that the program ran for 11 years improve its notability.  Possibly.  Rangasyd ( talk ) 12:16, 25 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, L iz Read!  Talk!  00:26, 27 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - seems to be sufficiently notable, this "spinoff" has better referencing than its main series The Book Club .  - Indefensible ( talk ) 02:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Rangasyd , that YouTube video that you linked, is a repost of the Elizabeth Gilbert episode, which was originally broadcast on 24 September 2013.  Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 ( his talk page ) 07:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources .  Schwartzkoff, Louise (2011-07-10).  "Free to Air - Tuesday July 12" .  The Sun-Herald .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review about Jennifer Byrne Presents: Fantasy notes: "Still, long, rigorous discussions about books are a luxury often reserved for high school students and undergraduates. Jennifer Byrne's literary chit-chats are a marvellous substitute for the rest of us. As always, Byrne is a thoughtful, open-minded and well-informed host."  Dunn, Emily (2008-06-23).  "TV Previews - Tuesday 24" .  The Sydney Morning Herald .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review about Jennifer Byrne Presents: Sex & Romance notes: "The title may sound salacious but somehow this episode of Jennifer Byrne Presents fails to deliver, though it is not for lack of trying. Byrne is, as always, engaging and well-researched without appearing too much of a smarty-pants. Her panel of guests, including author Christos Tsiolkas, romance writer Anne Gracie, poet and novelist Luke Davies and writer and academic Sophie Gee, are all interesting with their combination of personal anecdotes and interpretations of the place of sex and romance in literature but there are too many loose ends. Novels are mentioned and then forgotten and comments from the panellists are left unchallenged."  McWhirter, Erin (2008-06-24).  "Romancing the novel" .  The Courier-Mail .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review about Jennifer Byrne Presents: Sex & Romance notes: "For First Tuesday Book Club host Jennifer Byrne, pictured, sharing the limelight with her husband, Enough Rope presenter Andrew Denton, is a fun and at times resourceful ride. ... For tonight's Sex And Romance special Australian authors Christos Tsiolkas, Anne Gracie, Luke Davies and Sophie Gee discuss how they find the words to describe love scenes in their books."  Schembri, Jim (2010-03-11).  "Critic's view Sunday, March 14" .  The Age .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review notes: "Kudos to host Jennifer Byrne and her First Tuesday Book Club overseers for refusing to allow their discussion of the book-to-film adaptation process to be glorified propaganda touting literature as the superior art form. The ever-cheery Byrne is joined by ... Amid the lively debate are a few pearls, including Marsden's hatred of Fantastic Mr Fox and Collee dreading the new version of Alice in Wonderland because "Tim Burton doesn't have a narrative bone in his body"."  Munro, Kelsey (2009-03-09).  "TV Previews - Tuesday 10 March" .  The Sydney Morning Herald .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review of Jennifer Byrne Presents: Hoaxes notes: "Jennifer Byrne hosts a bite-sized but intelligent look at famous literary hoaxes, with guests ... They discuss what defines a hoax, whether it can have real literary merit and the ethical implications. There's a little enjoyably narky sparring between Knox and Marx."  Beaumont, Anita (2008-06-24).  "Highlights - TV & Stars" .  The Newcastle Herald .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review about Jennifer Byrne Presents: Sex & Romance notes: "Byrne rattles off a few statistics about them representing half of all paperback fiction sales in the US, before launching into further discussion with Australian authors Christos Tsiolkas, Anne Gracie, Luke Davies and Sophie Gee."  McEvoy, Marc (2007-10-08).  "TV previews - Tuesday October 9" .  The Sydney Morning Herald .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review about Jennifer Byrne Presents Writing with Food notes: "It's great to have a show about literature. It's a pity about the late timeslot and the silly fake library behind host Jennifer Byrne but she does a good job keeping our attention, igniting her guests' erudition with pithy comments from her lap notes and preventing a slide into drudgery."  Dubecki, Larissa (2011-11-10).  "Tuesday November 15 - Previews - Your Critical Guide to the Week" .  The Age .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review about Jennifer Byrne Presents: Di Morrissey notes: "This is a spinoff from the popular First Tuesday Book Club. Jennifer Byrne brings her enthusiasm for the written word to this cross between a chat show and a talking-heads series in which she genially interrogates authors for 25 minutes."  Houston, Melinda (2010-07-13).  "Green Guide's Critical View - TV & Weather" .  The Age .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review notes: "A bracing episode of this engaging series as Byrne proves she hasn't entirely lost her journalistic edge. It's the nature of the show that this was always going to be a conversation, not an interrogation, so some of Christopher Hitchens's more egregious assertions are politely let through to the keeper (for instance, that he is neither argumentative nor contrarian). ... But it's when talk turns to the place of women that Byrne can no longer contain herself and the sparks really start to fly. " Galvin, Nick (2011-09-25).  "Free to Air - Tuesday September 27" .  The Sun-Herald .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review about Jennifer Byrne Presents: Christos Tsiolkas notes: "Another cracking interview from the ever-smiling Jennifer Byrne, proving that entertaining, thought-provoking TV can come out of the simplest formats, as long as the content is strong."  Kalina, Paul (2012-08-27).  "Free to Air - Tuesday August 28" .  The Sydney Morning Herald .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review about Jennifer Byrne Presents: Dava Sobel notes: "She is Jennifer Byrne's guest tonight, and what ensues is an eloquent and inspiring discussion about her work."  Ellis, Mark (2010-11-11).  "Tuesday, November 16 Critic's view" .  The Age .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The review about Jennifer Byrne Presents: Graphic Novels notes: "It's a niche sector of publishing that is given serious analysis by the ever-smiling and enthusiastic Byrne. The discussion is perhaps at its best when covering the "how" of producing this genre and starts to sparkle a little when discussing how it works on a page by showing several time frames at once. But it does get a bit bogged down in its own seriousness. For serious book lovers and graphic-novel readers only."  Nicholson, Sarah (2008-04-23).  "Starting a new chapter" .  The Courier-Mail .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The article notes: "Byrne's reading list grew considerably this year when she signed to do the Jennifer Byrne Presents specials as well as her regular hosting gig on First Tuesday Book Club. The first episode of the new program will screen this week with Byrne sitting down to chat with authors Peter Carey, Paul Auster and Ian McEwan in an experience she describes as "a total dream"."  Allan, Roxanne (2012-06-12).  "Close Up - Read on Lines With Punch" .  Sunday Mail .  Archived from the original on 2023-07-03 .  Retrieved 2023-07-03 .  The article about Jennifer Byrne Presents: Punch Lines notes: "These genres and topics will be explored through three special episodes - dubbed Jennifer Byrne Presents - and act as additions to the monthly First Tuesday Book Club. ... Punch Lines, for example, is the next Jennifer Byrne Presents special to be aired this week and looks at the art form of comedic writing - something with which Byrne's husband, TV presenter and producer Andrew Denton, is well acquainted."  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Jennifer Byrne Presents to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline , which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".  Cunard ( talk ) 05:43, 3 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  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