André LaMothe: This article has a 20-year history of cruft being added and removed, but the sources remaining still don't establish that this topic passes WP:GNG .  ~ T P W 14:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions .  ~ T P W 14:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Wikipedia is not for self-promotion - notability must be established.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ ) 15:06, 19 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors , Businesspeople , Computing ,  and California .  Hey man im josh ( talk ) 15:46, 19 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment If reviews of books like The Black Art of 3D Game Programming (1995) could be turned up, we might have a case for WP:AUTHOR .  However, reviews in old programming magazines might be hard to dig out.  XOR'easter ( talk ) 18:37, 19 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep I'll be the first to admit I haven't determined notability for a computer author before, so I'm willing to change my mind if strong alternative views are put forward.  However, I did a search on Archive.org and turned up a number of computer magazines that reviewed works by André LaMothe .  This includes reviews of his works in places like Game Developer Magazine , PC Zone , and other magazines (see the search link above to find the reviews).  I also found a three-page profile of him in issue 4 of Make Magazine from 2005, where it's stated that he's the author of 15 books and hundreds of games ( link to archive.org edition here ).  Based on all that I believe he meets our notability guidelines. -- SouthernNights ( talk ) 19:28, 19 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] That article doesn't seem like a profile about him , but the .  Given that none of his works have their own articles, it will be difficult to prove that his body of work garnered any critical attention.  Maybe with actual links to the reviews rather than WP:LOTSOFSOURCES this might change.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ ) 22:42, 19 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Having multiple books each receive multiple reviews is a standard way to pass WP:AUTHOR , whether or not those books have articles of their own.  XOR'easter ( talk ) 23:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] A possible starting point: Tricks of the Game Programming Gurus (co-authored) [19] ; Windows Game Programming for Dummies [20] ; Black Art of 3D Game Programming [21] [22] .  XOR'easter ( talk ) 23:46, 19 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment in response to ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ : While the article I mentioned above is about the XGS console, it's almost totally focused on LaMothe's work developing it and his larger work in the industry.  The article even describes him as the "Yoda of game design."  While we can disagree if that article qualifies as a profile or not, the article does go a long way toward proving his notability.  He also has had his work reviewed and discussed in a number of other articles in various gaming and computer magazines along with having an entry in Baker & Taylor Author Biographies.  I've now added information from all these citations to the article.  In short, the citations I've found shows he's a best-selling author of game development books along with creating his own games and systems.  Definitely meets Wikipedia notability standards for creative professions . -- SouthernNights ( talk ) 15:31, 20 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per SouthernNights - I investigated your claims and I agree that the subject passes GNG.  Merko ( talk ) 01:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  Confident that the sources established by SouthernNights establishes notability.  - Cukie Gherkin ( talk ) 20:17, 21 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - needs a clean-up, but subject passes the threshold for notability.  Shooterwalker ( talk ) 15:24, 25 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep