Abi Carter: Even if coverage continues in the future it is highly unlikely to warrant more than some sentences at American Idol (season 22) .  Heartfox ( talk ) 05:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions .  Heartfox ( talk ) 05:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and California .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 11:50, 6 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete : PROMO.  Appearing on the show isn't quite notable enough without much more sourcing.  "They liked her singing" is about the extent of coverage.  Rest is simply filling in the biographical details.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 13:23, 6 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep I don't know why when establshing notability these factors tend to be overlooked.  If an individual is young (less than 30 for example) their youth is not necessarily a negative.  People develop skills at different rates.  For example having recently graduated from high school or being in college has nothing to do with innate ability.  Talent shows-there's a built-in bias probably on Wikipedia and similar sites.  It's like oh, they can't be as good as someone else doing the same thing but they're the real thing and not competing on tv.  Keep in mind here the three judges already have Abi Carter as a "favorite" or even ready to win the entire American Idol contest.  Also factor in that it's not a rare sentiment or occasional viewpoint... people are saying don't even bother having the show.  Just give her the win.  I think I made my point here.  Headtothestripe ( talk ) 10:50, 9 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Actually there was no point made here.  Tip for later, wanna win an argument on Wikipedia?  Provide (reliable) sources.  ihateneo ( talk ) 23:13, 9 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete or potentially redirect to American Idol (season 22) .  Clearly fails notability right now.  Doesn't even seem notable enough for a redirect at this point, but that can change very quickly if she continues on the show.  JDDJS ( talk to me • see what I've done ) 22:05, 9 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete : Per above.  WP:TOOSOON .  ihateneo ( talk ) 23:16, 9 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Relisting comment: Relisting.  If the subject is still competing, would a Redirect or Draftification make sense?  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, L iz Read!  Talk!  04:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I did redirect but that was reverted by the article creator Headtothestripe so I initiated a deletion discussion per WP:ATD-R .  Heartfox ( talk ) 04:40, 13 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect is fine; on the off-chance that she's the next Kelly Clarkson, we can re-create it.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 15:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect - agree that it could then be recreated if it is indeed too soon.  Editing84 ( talk ) 10:18, 14 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep I feel at this point she has enough presence to maintain article, She has enough followers from the show that will only grow into the future.  ProctorP ( talk ) 03:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete or redirect to American Idol (season 22) .  Not enough outside coverage to prove notability.  Wikisteveb4 ( talk ) 14:39, 17 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to American Idol (season 22) : I can't find much WP:SIGCOV for a standalone article.  Completely a WP: TOOSOON case.  Per WP: NMUSIC , I can necessary say she passed no way especially with no credibility for "discography" or notable "collab".  Most of he sources were on her winning/qualifying for the American show.  It is best it's redirected to the subject that treats much or credibly about her which is American Idol (season 22) .  May be notable for a standalone in the future.  The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: redirect