Markus Habsburg-Lothringen: Eastmain ( talk • contribs ) 15:46, 4 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment .  The article could be expanded from the versions in other languages, and honorary citizenship of a city is probably notable.  Also, see "Kaiservilla Bad Ischl: Habsburgs Nachfolger kämpfen mit dem Erhalt ihres Erbes" .  Kleine Zeitung (in German).  2022-12-18 .  Retrieved 2023-06-04 .  Eastmain ( talk • contribs ) 16:16, 4 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I doubt it: the article is almost entirely about the castle that his family used to own personally, but which they passed into a trust managed by his son-in-law; the article talks extensively about the state of decay of the palace, and its dire finances, but very little about the gentleman himself (and where it does, it's very much an interview).  I have no strong feelings either way, but it seems to me that a mention at Kaiservilla is probably enough.  Elemimele ( talk ) 18:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, Daniel ( talk ) 07:16, 12 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  I think I will change my earlier comment to Keep.  In addition to my earlier points, he is listed in the Almanach de Gotha.  Eastmain ( talk • contribs ) 11:21, 12 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] delete , unless he gets any claim for noatbility other than being the descendent of someone notable, or living in some notable person's former palace.  Or someone pointing to some "all (former?) nobles are notable" policy - Nabla ( talk ) 22:10, 12 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete : Cannot find anything advancing notability and nobility is not inherited .  An Archduke or being the eleventh child, or living in a notable ancestry castle, does not add to the "presumption" of being notable.  I have not heard of being listed in the Almanach de Gotha as ensuring notability.  -- Otr500 ( talk ) 01:52, 13 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, CycloneYoris talk!  00:06, 14 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment I'm not sure he's notable alone, most articles seem to be in relation to the castle where he lives [54] I think talks about the castle.  Perhaps a redirect or selective merge to an article on the castle.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 02:13, 14 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete This discussion is relisted a second time and still no valid reason is given as to why he is notable.  Every point of notability raised here is derived from the building he lives in or from his ancestors.  In addition, being mentioned in a book is not a reason for notability.  Furthermore, the last somewhat reliable edition of Gotha was published a year before his birth.  I doubt very much that he is mentioned there.  Anything else that was published afterwards (with or without the official name rights) by other publishers, or even self-published, is poorly edited, full of errors, and anything but WP:NPOV .  -- Theoreticalmawi ( talk ) 14:36, 17 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete