Mladen Bogdanović: BEFORE showed nothing that meets SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth.  // Timothy :: talk 03:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople , Football , Bosnia and Herzegovina , Croatia ,  and Yugoslavia .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:07, 10 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football 's list of association football-related deletions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:32, 10 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The circumstances of Bogdanović's death were reported e.g. at Index.hr [98] .  This is a pretty classic sign of general notability, it's simply outside the English-speaking realm.  We'd probably have to reach for some Hajduk monography to get significant coverage.  [99] there's fan coverage that indicates this should exist.  -- Joy ( talk ) 09:18, 10 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - These nominations of clear topics of interests are getting ridiculous, especially from this user ( User:TimothyBlue ), - yet another deletion nomination from a user whose most recent article (made in March 2023) is about a current Ukrainian photographer whose birth date is unknown and basically only has primary sources online...  (which I am fine with, but trying to delete others articles with much more sources of any kind while creating those kinds of articles truly boggles the mind, the double standard makes no sense whatsoever ).  What makes these nominations more ridiculous is that I easily found [100] , [101] , [102] , [103] , [104] , [105] , [106] , [107] and these are just the sources published recently about a 1980s player (which shows his significance in Yugoslavia)  not to mention the many offline sources.  Article needs improvement, not deletion.  Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk ) 10:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per sources above which show notability.  Giant Snowman 11:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Source eval for above: Failed V, 404, link apparently just copied from search results :: https://drava.info/2017/02/mladen-kemo-bogdanovic/ Obit, not IS RS :: https://www.dalmacijadanas.hr/slicice-pricaju-in-memoriam-mladen-bogdanovic-kemo-hajdukova-legenda-s-brda/ Hagiography  :: https://www.dnevno.hr/sport/navijaci-hajduka-su-ga-obozavali-a-on-je-tragicno-stradao-nepravedno-zanemaren-i-njegove-ideje-nisu-bas-svi-shvacali-1890486/ Obit about death from Infokiosk :: https://infokiosk.net/on-na-sanku-pije-i-pusi-to-je-bio-sok-za-sve-kako-je-popularni-hrvatski-nogometas-smrtno-stradao-zivot-ga-nije-mazio/ Name mentioned :: https://www.klikaj.hr/pogled-u-proslost-ovo-je-bila-sjajna-generacija-mladih-nogometasa-slavena-a-vodio-ih-je-legendarni-kemo-bogdanovic/ Failed V, 404, link apparently just copied from search results :: https://drava.info/2017/06/sjecanje-na-mladena-kemu-bogdanovica/ Failed V, 404, link apparently just copied from search results :: https://drava.info/2017/02/mladen-kemo-bogdanovic/ Failed V, 404, link apparently just copied from search results :: https://drava.info/2017/06/sjecanje-na-mladena-kemu-bogdanovica/ Memorial page :: https://epodravina.hr/mladen-bogdanovic-kemo-bio-je-istinski-spaner-i-nogometni-boem-napustio-nas-je-u-tragicnoj-nesreci-prije-19-godina/ Obit :: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/pogorsano-zdravstveno-stanje-nogometasa-mladena-bogdanovica/138924.aspx None of the above is IS RS with SIGCOV.  // Timothy :: talk 14:34, 10 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ TimothyBlue Articles written about an individual decades after his death are hardly an obit.  Even so, obits written by independent reliable sources are usually perfectly fine as sources.  Regarding the drava.info sources, I was able to access them earlier today so there is probably a technical issue behind the current 404.  Alvaldi ( talk ) 14:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] This is accurate, but also largely inconsequential to your argument for deletion, because you're still not disputing the basic factoids such as this player spending four years with Hajduk in the Yugoslav First League with 87 appearances and 11 goals.  If this is not inaccurate, the potential is still there and we should not delete the article but instead fix it by finding better sources.  -- Joy ( talk ) 09:13, 11 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment - Some of the coverage is independent of the subject and in-depth, but I'm not sure about reliability.  ePodravina.hr is a news portal, but I can't determine if the author is actually a sports journalist.  Dalmacijadanas.hr also appears to be a news portal, and again I'm not sure whether the author is a sports journalist.  Is someone more familiar with these websites able to weigh in?  Jogurney ( talk ) 00:21, 11 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , very clearly passes GNG and nominator is being pedantic. -- Ortizesp ( talk ) 17:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep