Hardin High School (Texas): No evidence of notability under SNG or GNG.  No GNG sources and as a result has only a few sentences of the basics plus sports team info.  North8000 ( talk ) 22:11, 16 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education , Schools ,  and Texas .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:21, 16 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per this recent contributions .  Sources and additional info fulfill GNG and NSCHOOl guidelines.  Burgeoning Contracting 04:48, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Those were some nice additions.  I am genuinely not concerned how this ends up; I'm just trying to do my job properly.  On the latter point, wp:nschool is basically (a tougher version of) GNG, i.e. GNG with the org restriction added to GNG sources.  I don't see any sources that meet even basic GNG.  Even some edge case GNG sources would be enough to make me switch to "keep".     Sincerely, North8000 ( talk ) 12:15, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Hello, user:North8000 .  I am struggling to understand what you mean by "basic GNG" sources.  The general notability guidelines state no fixed amount of sources is required.  There are different sources from three news orginizations present, all reflecting a neutral point-of-view.  They are obviously independent from the subject, as are other government sources present in the article.  I don't see their reliability being an issue.  It would be greatly appreciated if you could elaborate.  I wasn't referring to any of those aspects, I was referring to ""Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail". So a (independent published) source that writes about the school in some depth. Even one of those would make me switch my opinion to "keep".  And I'm just one person here, that may not be needed to have the article kept.  Sincerely, North8000 ( talk ) 18:46, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Burgeoning Contracting Burgeoning Contracting 14:01, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] North8000 , NSCHOOL is not tougher than GNG: it just says the school must meet GNG or NORG.  If it meets NORG, it will automatically meet GNG, so (in my opinion) it might as well just redirect to GNG.  Others have commonly interpreted this as requiring for profit schools to meet NORG, while public schools are only required to meet the less-stringent GNG.  Either way, GNG is the applicable standard for this public school.  — Jacona ( talk ) 14:07, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I would not argue against what you just said, it prima facie logically follows NSCHOOL as written.   What I was referring to is that with NORG mentioned, it often / defacto calibrates (or otherwise influences) GNG to include the additional NORG criteria when applying GNG.   I'm not pursuing that approach, just explaining my choice of words.   Sincerely, North8000 ( talk ) 18:38, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  There has been considerable expansion to the article.  It currently has 22 references.  This is enough to meet the general notability guideline , and then remember that according to policy .  Sources do not have to be online.  This school is in its 85th school year.  The internet is by comparison, brand-spanking-new.  Most of the sources for a school this age are going to be offline.  Anyway, off the soapbox, what's been added to the article provides sufficient coverage to meet GNG, even though it's bound to be a small minority of the coverage that exists .  Jacona ( talk ) 11:52, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  Meets WP:GNG .  -- Necrothesp ( talk ) 13:25, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment I just went through all (currently) 22 references and can't find one with even 1/4 of GNG coverage.   I can't even find one that even writes a few sentences about the school .   There are database type entries, several about a sporting event, one about a bomb threat, one is Google maps showing where the city of Hardin is, others with a passing factoid or a list where they are included.  North8000 ( talk ) 19:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] North8000 , this source is better than any currently in the article.  — Jacona ( talk ) 01:13, 22 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Jacona : That looks really good.  IMO that moves it into edge case regarding GNG in which case my recommendation switches to Keep .  North8000 ( talk ) 19:35, 22 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep