Elizabeth Lombardo: Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 00:45, 22 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment .  I have no opinion at the moment re: whether Lombardo qualifies per WP:NPROF , but I do think the article about her completely missed the mark.  Her notability is based on all the coverage about her as an author, media personality and "celebrity" (pop) psychologist.  I have been trying to fix the article accordingly but this strikes me as a writing problem (wrong focus) rather than a notability problem.  Cielquiparle ( talk ) 15:11, 24 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Update .  Per WP:NPROF , Lombardo (who is not a faculty member and not known primarily for her "academic" achievements) should not be subject to the notability requirements for academics): Many academics have been faculty members (such as professors) at colleges or universities.  Also, many academics have held research positions at academic research institutes (such as NIH, CNRS, etc.).  However, academics may also work outside academia and their primary job does not need to be academic if they are known for their academic achievements.  Conversely, if they are notable for their primary job, they do not need to be notable academics to warrant an article.  Cielquiparle ( talk ) 10:18, 25 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Thanks that's helpful.  My understanding was that they could meet either the general notability OR academic notability.  Do you think that she meets the notability under general notability (or another specific type)?  Mason ( talk ) 21:40, 25 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] This is an overview of sources in the article and my search for sources: I have only found one review of one book (The Library Journal review in the article) The 2017 American Psychological Association Monitor on Psychology interview has an intro paragraph describing her as "one of the nation's most high-profile psychologists," noting television appearances and one of her books I found 3 appearances on the TODAY show on ProQuest: ProQuest 1786545857 (Apr 29, 2016); ProQuest 1821507272 (Sep 15, 2016); I added the one focused on her to the article: "Interview with Elizabeth Lombardo" ProQuest 2159772523 (Dec 19, 2018) The 2017 interview-based coverage from her alma mater is not independent I removed a source labeled "Ad" [16] and a source described as "a marketing-friendly program dedicated to offering businesses the opportunity to showcase their company/products" [17] Gurus magazine also appears to be promotional - I found no 'About' page or editorial standards, and it is mostly an interview and pictures of her David's Guide is mostly an interview and pictures, and while it has an About page, this also appears to be a promotional vehicle there is an interview-based piece in Social Life magazine (which describes itself as "the premier luxury publication for the Hamptons" and appears to be advertising-focused ) a WP:FORBESCON source - I did not remove it because it seems possible the author is a subject matter expert; this source is based on interviews Lombardo is quoted in e.g. Bloomberg in 2013 (..."says Elizabeth Lombardo, a clinical psychologist who works with athletes such as Shaquille O’Neal"), the NYT in 2015 (..."said Dr. Elizabeth Lombardo, a clinical psychologist in Chicago"), and apparently in 2016 (..."said Elizabeth Lombardo, a wealth psychologist in Chicago"), TODAY in 2016 , ABC News in 2016 ("Psychologist Elizabeth Lombardo ...  said today on "GMA.""). There are also a few news sources quoting her on ProQuest, e.g. "6 tips to help relieve stress that builds at the workplace" South Florida Sun - Sentinel (Tribune News Service) 06 Mar 2016 ProQuest 1772053621 ("Elizabeth Lombardo, a psychologist who wrote the book "Better Than Perfect: 7 Strategies to Crush Your Inner Critic and Create a Life You Love," suggest stressed-out workers consider ways they can help themselves...") Delete seems appropriate because WP:BASIC / WP:GNG or other notability does not appear supported by sufficient independent, reliable, and secondary coverage at this time.  Beccaynr ( talk ) 02:35, 26 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 11:12, 29 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .  Besides her brief authorship, Lombardo doesn't seem too different from a regular university professor.  Does not meet WP:ACADEMIC or WP:AUTHOR .  GuardianH ( talk ) 19:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete