AmericaSpeaks: There's no proof or even indication that this was ever a notable organization by our standards, and the lack of references reflects that.  Drmies ( talk ) 18:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete A closed org with no significant coverage in a long time.  Clear failure of WP:10YT Simonm223 ( talk ) 18:52, 8 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Fails WP:NCORP and 10YT.  By the way, a related AfD here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/California_Speaks Graywalls ( talk ) 18:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations , Politics , United States of America ,  and Washington, D.C. .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 18:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Since its closure in 2014, there has not been a single reliable source covering the organization.  It fails WP:NCORP 's inclusion criteria.  Nitish shetty ( talk ) 11:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The relevant standard is WP:ORG as it was a nonprofit, and there are many reliable sources covering the organization since its closure in 2014 cited within the article per my comments below.  Cielquiparle ( talk ) 09:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] * Delete per nom.  and others.  Fails WP:GNG / WP:NCORP .  Sal2100 ( talk ) 19:17, 9 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Sal2100 : Request reconsideration in light of the below.  Cielquiparle ( talk ) 05:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Done.  See below, ! vote changed to "keep".  Thanks for pinging me.  Sal2100 ( talk ) 17:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per WP:GNG and WP:ORG and WP:HEY .  The article about this nonpartisan non-profit organization has now gone through a complete WP:TNT , with all the promotional, unsourced content removed.  (Drmies and Graywalls rightly got the ball rolling with removing content that should have been removed years ago.)  There are numerous articles covering AmericaSpeaks in independent, reliable secondary sources including academic journal articles and books, demonstrating WP:SUSTAINED interest over time.  Among the most in-depth analysis is Francesca Polletta's chapter, "Publics, Partners, and the Ties That Bind" which appeared in Inventing Ties That Bind , a book published by the University of Chicago Press in 2020 and published by Chicago Scholarship Online in 2021.  Another article is "Balancing the Books: Analyzing the Impact of a Federal Budget Deliberative Simulation on Student Learning and Opinion" by Dena Levy and Susan Orr, which was published in the Journal of Political Science Education in 2014.  Another is the chapter "A Political Life Transformed" by John Gastil and Katherine R. Knobloch, which appeared in their book Hope for Democracy: How Citizens Can Bring Reason Back Into Politics , which was published by Oxford University Press in 2020.  (All articles are accessible via Wikipedia Library or its partner publishers.)  There are many other sources now cited in the article besides.  Cielquiparle ( talk ) 05:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Cielquiparle and WP:HEY .  With recent modifications, the article now passes WP:ORG and WP:GNG .  Sal2100 ( talk ) 17:49, 12 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk ) 19:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk ) 19:13, 22 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Although at the time of the nom it didn't look very promising but rn I can vouch for it to be kept.  X ( talk ) 18:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep