2024 Alaska Air Fuel Douglas C-54 crash: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolzer3000 ( talk • contribs ) 14:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3 ).   I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 April 30 .   — cyberbot I Talk to my owner :Online 15:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions .  Aviationwikiflight ( talk ) 15:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions .  Aviationwikiflight ( talk ) 15:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alaska-related deletion discussions .  Aviationwikiflight ( talk ) 15:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - I mean its a cargo jet, of course it only has a few on board but this is a huge airplane, it is very uncommon and has made a lot of coverage around the internet WP:Notability .  This is just my opinion that this should stay.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:8D80:402:704F:E038:5250:7DD4:7434 ( talk ) 18:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete - It is not a jet it is a turboprop, i responded to your message on the talk page of this, the aircraft has no notability historically itself, i feel it falls under Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not as a solely news worthy incident.  Multiple talking head sources have covered it but no major sources other than USA Today have covered it as im seeing.  Local news it what im usually finding and it did not make headlines nor national news.  Lolzer3000 ( talk ) 20:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Don't vote on your own deletion request.  Plus, sign the top so it's evident who posted this deletion request.  GalacticOrbits ( talk ) 10:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - Like the IP said above, it is uncommon for a plane like a Douglas C-54 to crash.  i understand there is only two fatalities but its also a cargo jet carrying lots of stuff.  Its one of those crashes that many people may think isn't notable, but is.  WP:GNG WP:Notability — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeekyAviation ( talk • contribs ) 01:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] There are specific criteria for keeping or deleting aircraft accident pages but the most important are the consequences in safety regulations or aircraft manufacturing and the notability of the fatalities.  In this case the accident fails to be notable in all of these categories.  I should also mention that this specific crash is already included in the List of accidents and incidents involving the Douglas DC-4 so even if this page gets deleted the basic information of the accident will remain in wikipedia.  Voceta ( talk ) 00:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Failure of WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE coverage only lasted ~3 days , the event criteria and WP:INDEPTH .  Possibility of failing WP:LASTING .  This is an old aircraft and not many of them are still flying today.  Aviationwikiflight ( talk ) 02:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] thanks for the laugh!  GeekyAviation ( talk ) 02:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] what do you mean "thanks for the laugh?"  Lolzer3000 ( talk ) 15:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .   Fails WP:GNG and WP:EVENT .  The only vague element of notability is that there are not many operational C-54s left, but there were well over 1000 produced and there's absolutely nothing special about this particular airframe or this particular crash.  Rosbif73 ( talk ) 17:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Due To It's The Last DC-4 That Flying Commercially.  Just Like How Boeing 707 In 2018?  Yafie Achmad Raihan ( talk ) 10:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] This aircraft was not the last DC-4 flying and anyhow, that wouldn't matter unless the event met the needed criterias.  Just Like How Boeing 707 In 2018?  Could you explain what you mean?  Aviationwikiflight ( talk ) 14:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I think he means EP-CCP, which was the last Boeing 707 in commercial service until it crashed in 2019 .   Nevertheless, the accident was not notable because it involved the last commercial 707.   Likewise, this accident would not be notable solely because it involved the last commercial DC-4.   As for the claim that this was the last commercial DC-4, the Douglas DC-4 article states that two DC-4s are operating with a charter airline in South Africa, but the sources are from 2014/15 and I've found no recent sources confirming that it is still the case.  - ZLEA T \ C 15:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete - Unfortunately, it is not unusual for 70-year-old aircraft to suffer engine failures and crash.   No lasting coverage and fails WP:GNG .  - ZLEA T \ C 15:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete