Xing Rongjie: Does not seem notable, but unsure if "founding general" means anything, or if his medals confer notability.  Natg 19 ( talk ) 01:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People , Military ,  and China .  Natg 19 ( talk ) 01:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources .  The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria , which says: People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable , intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject .  If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.  Sources He is discussed on 12 pages of this book published by Beijing Book Co.  [ zh ] .  中国军事大辞典 [ Chinese Military Dictionary ] (in Chinese).  Vol.  1.  Haikou: Hainan Press [ zh ] .  1992.  p. 673.  ISBN 9787805901060 .  Retrieved 2024-02-10 – via Google Books .  The book notes: "【邢荣杰】( 1911 ~ ) 1964 年晋升为中国人民解放军少将军衔。河北省无极县人。 1933 年任国民党保卫团大队长。1937 年参加八路军,同年加入中国共产党。抗日战争时期,任冀西游击队第五大队大队长,司令部参谋长兼三支队支队长,冀豫抗日义勇军参谋长,太行军区第五军分区三十四团参谋长,第八军分区参谋长。解放战争时期,任太行军区第五军分区参谋长,晋冀鲁豫野战军第六纵队十六旅参谋长,第十八旅副旅长兼参谋长,中原军区军政大学总队长,第二野战军十二军三十六师师长。中华人民共和国成立后,任第三兵团师长兼川东军区涪陵军分区司令员,南京军事学院训练部战术教授会教员、副主任,驻越南社会主义共和国大使馆武官,重庆步兵学校校长,陕西省军区副司令员。" From Google Translate: "[Xing Rongjie] (1911 ~ ) was promoted to the rank of Major General of the Chinese People's Liberation Army in 1964. A native of Wuji County, Hebei Province. In 1933, he was appointed captain of the Kuomintang security regiment. He joined the Eighth Route Army in 1937 and joined the Communist Party of China in the same year. During the Anti-Japanese War, he served as captain of the Fifth Brigade of the Western Hebei Guerrilla Army, chief of staff of the headquarters and captain of the third detachment, chief of staff of the Hebei-Henan Anti-Japanese Volunteer Army, chief of staff of the 34th Regiment of the Fifth Military Division of the Taihang Military Region, and chief of staff of the Eighth Military Division. long. During the War of Liberation, he served as chief of staff of the Fifth Military Division of the Taihang Military Region, chief of staff of the 16th Brigade of the 6th Column of the Shanxi-Hebei-Luyu Field Army, deputy brigade commander and chief of staff of the 18th Brigade, captain of the Military and Political University of the Central Plains Military Region, and 10th Brigade of the Second Field Army. Commander of the 36th Division of the Second Army. After the founding of the People's Republic of China, he served as division commander of the Third Corps and commander of the Fuling Military Division of the Eastern Sichuan Military Region, instructor and deputy director of the Tactics Professor Association of the Training Department of Nanjing Military Academy, military attache of the Embassy in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, principal of Chongqing Infantry School, Shaanxi Province Deputy Commander of the Military Region."  Dangshi Bocai Journal article .  Shijiazhuang: Dangshi Bocai Journal 党史博采.  1993 .  Retrieved 2024-02-10 – via Google Books .  The article notes: "邢荣杰( 1911- )河北省无极县人。 1937 年参加八路军。曾任冀豫抗日义勇军参谋长、陕西省军区副司令员等职。 1964 年晋升为少将军衔。" From Google Translate: "Xing Rongjie (1911- ) was born in Wuji County, Hebei Province. Joined the Eighth Route Army in 1937. He once served as chief of staff of the Hebei-Henan Anti-Japanese Volunteer Army and deputy commander of the Shaanxi Provincial Military Region. Promoted to the rank of major general in 1964."  Shao, Yanmiao 邵延淼; Ding, Xiaobing 丁小兵; Zhang, Fan 张帆, eds.  (1994).  辛亥以来人物年里录 [ Records of Figures Since 1911 ] (in Chinese).  Jiangsu: Jiangsu Educational Press [ zh ] .  p. 239.  ISBN 9787534320767 .  Retrieved 2024-02-10 .  The book notes: "邢荣杰( 1911- )原名宝堂,号明山,山东曹县人。东北抗日联军第 11 军军长,东北抗联总司令部副官长。河北无极人。解放军军事学院训练部战术教授会副主任,驻越南社会主义共和国武官,重庆步校校长,少将,陕西省军区副司令员。" From Google Translate: "Xing Rongjie (1911-), formerly known as Baotang and named Mingshan, was born in Caoxian County, Shandong Province. Commander of the 11th Army of the Northeast Anti-Japanese Allied Forces and deputy commander of the Northeast Anti-Japanese Allied General Headquarters. Hebei Wuji people. Deputy director of the Tactical Professors Association of the Training Department of the PLA Military Academy, military attache stationed in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, principal of Chongqing Infantry School, major general, and deputy commander of the Shaanxi Provincial Military Region."  Song, Guotao 宋国涛 (2004).  中国元帅将军授衔全纪录: 中国人民解放军1955-1964年元帅将军授衔纪事 [ Complete Records of the Awards of Marshals and Generals in China: Chronicle of the Awards of Marshals and Generals of the Chinese People's Liberation Army from 1955 to 1964 ] (in Chinese).  Beijing: Central Compilation & Translation Press [ zh ] .  p. 264.  ISBN 9787801099846 .  Retrieved 2024-02-10 – via Google Books .  The book notes: "邢荣杰授衔边疆少将 1911 年出生,河北无极人。刘邓大军进军大别山强渡河时, 18 旅参谋长邢荣杰率 53 团护卫,部队端着刺刀攻击前进,打下一个村庄,又扑向另一个村庄。碰上敌人就打,打完又往前冲。53 团在扫清了沿河几个村庄的敌人之后,歼灭了位于公路北侧" From Google Translate: "Xing Rongjie was awarded the title of Frontier Major General. Born in 1911, he was born in Wuji, Hebei Province. When Liu and Deng's armies marched into the Dabie Mountains and forcibly crossed the river, Xing Rongjie, chief of staff of the 18th Brigade, led the 53rd Regiment to escort them. The troops attacked and advanced with bayonets in hand. They captured one village and then rushed to another. When you encounter an enemy, fight, and then rush forward after fighting. After clearing out the enemies in several villages along the river, the 53rd Regiment annihilated the enemy on the north side of the highway..."  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Xing Rongjie ( simplified Chinese : 邢荣杰 ; traditional Chinese : 邢榮傑 ) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline , which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".  Cunard ( talk ) 12:56, 10 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep based on the sources found by Cunard.  Mccapra ( talk ) 14:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Per Cunard' s search, Xing's notability has been proven.  XxTechnicianxX ( talk ) 18:25, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Cunard.  I strongly encourage them to add these sources to the article so that it is not unsourced anymore.  Aintabli ( talk ) 18:49, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

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