City of Thi: This article fails WP:NOTABILITY because it does not reach the level of significant coverage required.  Jontesta ( talk ) 02:58, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions .  Jontesta ( talk ) 02:58, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment as Winkie Country redirects to Land of Oz (since Jan 2024) and the non-primarysource sourcing is non-existent (both here and in the history of Winkie Country ), it is hard to envision a reason to keep this article.   I do not expect there to be substantial non-(in-universe) coverage.  It would take effort to modify Land of Oz to be a plausible redirect target.  Walsh90210 ( talk ) 03:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to The Lost Princess of Oz , this appears to be the best reference.  - Knowledgekid87 ( talk ) 03:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 04:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to The Lost Princess of Oz , the first and, as far as I know, only book this fictional city appeared in.  The article is completely unsourced, and searches brought up no significant coverage in reliable sources.  Which is not surprising, considering the city was an incredibly minor part of a single book.  Rorshacma ( talk ) 04:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Yes Lost Princess of Oz is the only book it appeared in.  I just checked and it takes up about 15% of the book, but it's just one of many strange lands that are (spoiler alert) overcome by Ozma's friends and Cayke and the Frogman.  I'm going to say keep but rename to List of Oz Places (created by Baum) to conform to List of Oz characters (created by Baum) .   We recently had an AfD for Land of Ev.  The Deadly Desert is another obvious target - it has a fresh GNG notice on it from User:Toughpigs so I'm not the only one that notices.  Oblivy ( talk ) 16:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment - Keeping, or even merging it somewhere, kind of needs to have some kind of sources outside of the actual book, and I am honestly finding absolutely nothing.  Even sources/summaries about Lost Princess just kind of gloss over it as just stating its one of the odd locations they run across.  Rorshacma ( talk ) 17:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The Land of Ev and the Deadly Desert are different — there are some actual sources talking about them as notable features of the Oz stories.  City of Thi is a very minor location that I'm surprised to learn has an article.  Toughpigs ( talk ) 19:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] There is also nobody stopping anyone from undoing the redirect or moving the page to their userspace for future notability searches.  - Knowledgekid87 ( talk ) 19:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I agree that they are different, but a huge section of that article is cited to nothing, and some of it is cited to the book itself, and we don't know how much is in the offline book.  Land of Ev, too, is a more important place but it didn't feature much after Ozma of Oz, and the article is largely cited to nothing and has a lot of non-Baum content.  This one by itself has a very weak do-not-delete rationale but as part of a larger article it could be OK. I don't know whether we can accept a citation to the book (it's widely done, but...) At some point a decision was made to deal with the characters, and it's a helpful article if people keep nominating these borderline place-in-Oz articles perhaps we can contain them in one place.  Meanwhile Land of Oz keeps getting bigger.  And there are plenty of places that don't get articles, like the Nome Kingdom.   It's not indiscriminate, the Land of Oz as a whole and its features have been written about (I think).  Oblivy ( talk ) 09:13, 23 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: redirect