Sivam M: A WP:BEFORE search for his name  in English and Telugu only turns up routine coverage of the film, which claims to be the first children's film released nationally in India.  Wikishovel ( talk ) 11:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and India .  Wikishovel ( talk ) 11:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: Sources call him Sivam not Sivam M. What I suggest is to create Lily (film) and then move the page Sivam M to Sivam (director) and redirect the page to Lily (film) .  I can do it if such is the path chosen.Sources tend to demonstrate the film may be notable .  - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 16:58, 16 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] -->Changing to Delete now that the page about the film exists, and considering the name is not correct (which would have led to double redirect, I think).  Simpler solution.  When he has other films, Sivam (director) can be created. - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 10:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, The Wordsmith Talk to me 18:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .  The film is banking on the term pan Indian release for marketing purposes.  With one film under his belt, he is not notable as of now.  DareshMohan ( talk ) 20:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Well, if the film was/is notable, that could be OK.  But you seem to believe it’s not.  - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 21:38, 26 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete or Redirect to page for the film Lily if someone creates that - but at this stage of his career he does not seem to be notable enough for his own page yet (and the sources here clearly don't support one).  Llajwa ( talk ) 20:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] For information.  I rebooted the draft today.  See draft’s talk page also, with input from DareshMohan....  maybe a merge of both can be okayish.... .  if someone wants to move it to Main, it’s a click away.  And then yes, redirect? - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 21:38, 26 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I'm a little concerned that Lily will not meet the requirements for notability, given that it seems like it hasn't had much success.  Llajwa ( talk ) 22:01, 26 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Success, apparently no.  But it received coverage for its planned pan Indian release (even if so far, it's not pan at all).  Thanks.  - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 22:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Llajwa : @ Mushy Yank : The Lily (film) film has 2 notable reviews.  DareshMohan ( talk ) 00:31, 27 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Relisting comment: The film article presently exists at Lily (film) ; more discussion around whether or not the proposed redirect is reasonable would be helpful.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirecting might be a problem as the current name of the page is wrong.  See above.  - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) 06:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: redirect