AdaControl: PROD removed by article creator who added a user testimony.  Since this testimony is self-published, it cannot be used to establish notability.  HyperAccelerated ( talk ) 14:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions .  Shellwood ( talk ) 15:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : The testimony is from Jacob Sparre Andersen, editor of the Ada User Journal and a subject-matter expert.  I also found [18] and [19] .  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 22:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I've struck [1] as the bulk of this information is copied from AdaControl's website, as is was the article lede.  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 22:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I get an access denied error when viewing [2].  HyperAccelerated ( talk ) 14:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Login to the WP:TWL .  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 13:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ HyperAccelerated Sorry, I didn't realize that it was an expiring link.  While archive.org deems this upload to be spam, go to [20] and click on the first result.  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 03:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Okay, that source isn't independent though.  It's published by a committee called QualOSS.  One of the members of QualOSS, as listed on the first page of their report, is AdaCore.  AdaCore has provided services for the benefit of Adalog -- see this document that suggests a substantial rewrite of one of Adalog's systems.  HyperAccelerated ( talk ) 17:37, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] That reads like a design document about how they simplified a language feature or component of their software called "Adalog".  It treats "Adalog" as a software component or feature instead of an entity.  It shows example features of transformations they want libadalang, an analysis tool for Ada, to do.  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 20:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Searching further in their GitHub repos, according to https://github.com/AdaCore/langkit/blob/master/langkit/support/langkit_support-adalog-solver.adb , "Adalog" here is a pseudocode language made by AdaCore.  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 21:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Separately, the testimony is self-published.  Even if he is a subject matter expert, why should we consider this reliable?  None of the presentation contents have been reviewed by others.  I don't have reason to doubt Andersen's credentials, but one self-published source alone cannot establish notability.  HyperAccelerated ( talk ) 17:53, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Even if he is a subject matter expert, why should we consider this reliable?  WP:SELFPUB : Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications.  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 21:08, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] It is not self-published, it was presented at the "Reliable Software Technologies – Ada-Europe 2017", proceedings published by Springer, see https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-319-60588-3 Jprosen75 ( talk ) 16:37, 3 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I believe this to be JP Rosen, whose connection to AdaControl is explained in this bio .  They've created ~46% of the page.  I've left them a COI warning.  I'm tagging the article, which also contains promotional language like "gives the same level of accuracy as the language", soon.  Still, I don't think that means we must delete, as these are all fixable issues.  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 03:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] This AfD has been out for nearly a week now and most of the sources found don't really establish notability.  Are we sure this article should still be kept?  HyperAccelerated ( talk ) 17:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Yes, see my response above.  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 21:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] "gives the same level of accuracy as the language" is really about ASIS, and explains why ASIS was chosen for the tool.  Yes, I am the author of the software, and I'm willing to improve as required.  Jprosen75 ( talk ) 15:52, 5 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Why did your authorship have to be pointed out by another user?  You need to read WP: COI .  HyperAccelerated ( talk ) 20:18, 5 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Chill it, I already sent a message about COI.  Not every new user can automatically know to read all policies.  Aaron Liu ( talk ) 20:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Rosen disclosed his connection in 2010

Discussion outcome: delete