Ox (comics) : Industrial Insect (talk) 13:49, 12 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements , Science fiction and fantasy ,  and Comics and animation .  Industrial Insect (talk) 13:49, 12 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Incubate for all the reasons you listed.  None of the sources are WP:SECONDARY .  I suggest moving the article for now until secondary sources can be found so that all WP:GNG can be met.  Coco bb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs ) 14:31, 12 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep or merge with List of Marvel Comics characters: O in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE .  -- Rtkat3 ( talk ) 00:29, 13 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Wikipedia:LOSE . This article has existed for 17 years and has yet to see any major improvement. Industrial Insect (talk) 01:55, 13 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The link has been corrected. -- Rtkat3 ( talk ) 16:59, 13 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep or merge with List of Marvel Comics characters: O in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE .  You know how I was saying that the way you interact with others can be counter-productive?  Jumping down the throat of anyone who votes a way you don't like does stuff like this.  BoomboxTestarossa ( talk ) 19:04, 13 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - I found this , this , this , this , and WP:PRESERVE .  PaulGamerBoy360 ( talk ) 02:21, 13 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The first source appears to be user generated, the second only lists his existence and nothing else, the third is only comics tagged with his name, and the 4th one is also user-generated.  Industrial Insect (talk) 14:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Enforcers (comics) , the group both incarnations were members of and where they are already covered.  None of the sources presented above are actually valid significant coverage from reliable sources, and searches do not bring up anything that comes remotely close to passing the WP:GNG .   I haven't looked into whether or not the Enforcers themselves meet the notability threshold for fictional groups, but as long as they have an article, it makes much more sense for that to be the target for any kind of Redirect or Merge, as these characters only real significance in comics comes from being part of that group, thus it would provide the most context for anyone searching for the character.  Rorshacma ( talk ) 23:03, 13 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Enforcers (comics) all this in-universe information can be covered in that article, and I'd much rather this be redirected to the team article than a huge list article.  Rhino131 ( talk ) 13:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, CycloneYoris talk!  20:02, 19 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete or Redirect to Enforcers (comics) .  There is no significant coverage from independent sources to justify keeping this article.  If the notability isn't there, there is nothing to WP:PRESERVE . -- Mike 🗩 20:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep or merge with List of Marvel Comics characters: O per WP:PRESERVE .  BOZ ( talk ) 16:40, 21 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete per nomination.  Non-notable chum.  Llajwa ( talk ) 20:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete per WP:GNG .  Normally a merge could be appropriate but this article has only primary sources as references.  There's nothing to merge.  -- Mika1h ( talk ) 17:27, 26 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting. I'd like to Redirect/Merge but there are two different Merge targets being proposed here. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 23:10, 26 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment to User:Liz : if it helps achieve a consensus, I'd agree with Enforcers (comics) if BoomboxTestarossa and Rtkat3 would concur? BOZ ( talk ) 00:04, 27 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment to @ Liz : and @ BOZ : . While both brothers who called themselves Ox are members of the Enforcers, there are other characters who have called themselves Ox like the outlaw who is not mentioned and the member of China Force . If you pitch the idea to merge Ox to Enforcers, where will the other characters named Ox go? List of Marvel Comics characters: O ? I'm just asking here. -- Rtkat3 ( talk ) 01:32, 27 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : He does have one more RS: [2] BOZ ( talk ) 22:32, 28 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] But it is just a plot summary...  Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 11:45, 1 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Enforcers (comics) per WP:ATD .  Open to other targets and this can be worked out through editing.  Shooterwalker ( talk ) 03:50, 31 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect per above unless someone tells me which sources are reliable and meet SIGCOV.  Sources mentioned above have been criticized and I AGFed that critique.  -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 11:44, 1 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Enforcers (comics) per above.  // Timothy :: talk 21:20, 2 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: redirect