Simon Minter (Miniminter): Lacks sufficient and suitable references, and is plastered with inline links which the uncharitable might consider spam.  Fails WP:BIO , fails the tone expected of an article.  🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:49, 26 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions .  🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:49, 26 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions .  Shellwood ( talk ) 21:10, 26 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Entertainment and Internet .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Sidemen (YouTube group) .  Non-notable, Wikipedia isn't the place for promotional pieces and advertisements.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ ) 13:59, 27 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete or redirect , I was watching the page Draft:Simon Edward Minter (Miniminter) in case it was moved to mainspace again and this article seems to be the same.  Not enough reliable sources for a WP:BLP .  Sahaib ( talk ) 07:40, 28 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Speedy Delete as G4 - See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miniminter .   This is an attempt to game the name of a previously deleted article.  Robert McClenon ( talk ) 22:52, 28 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The two articles are not substantially identical so this is not eligible for speedy deletion.  Thryduulf ( talk ) 08:57, 29 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete - Does not satisfy general notability .  Robert McClenon ( talk ) 06:29, 30 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment - If the originator thinks that the subject is now biographically notable , as they were not in 2021, or that the 2021 article that was deleted needed expansion, they should submit it as Draft:Miniminter to be reviewed, rather than trying to evade the AFD.  Robert McClenon ( talk ) 22:52, 28 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment - This appears to be another case of an Internet personality whose article has been deleted, and whose ultras , that is, fanatical fans, are attempting to get an article in by gaming the name , thus resulting in more variations on the name being locked, rather than asking for help in finding reliable sources.   These fans, like those of other Internet personalities, are the enemies of getting an article for their person, because they will just result in more forms of the name being protected.  Robert McClenon ( talk ) 22:52, 28 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete then Redirect to Sidemen (YouTube group) then Protect : Non-notable YouTuber with many fans who apparently want him to have a page.  Why?  I Ask ( talk ) 23:23, 28 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment , am I missing something?  Subject appears to meet WP:SINGER#C2 .  Do we need to delete history on this for some reason?  — siro χ o 00:35, 29 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I've removed a lot of the unverifiable stuff from the article.  — siro χ o 00:42, 29 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] That part has always been pretty vague to me.  Does "national" only include the actual national chart (e.g., UK Singles Chart ) or do the sub-genre charts count (e.g., UK Independent Singles Chart ).  If only the the former counts, then he does not meet it, since the only charting single, "The Gift", was credited to the Sidemen.  Why?  I Ask ( talk ) 03:04, 29 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Ah.  Thank you.  Deceptive crediting in the article.  The NZ chart would count for sure, but I think you're correct, it's all credited to Sidemen.  Redirect .  — siro χ o 05:33, 29 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete non-notable.  Do not redirect.  Simon Minter already exists as a redirect to Sidemen and it's unlikely that this would be a valid redirect.  CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk) , Huliva 19:01, 31 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete