Big the Cat : I redirected this article on (to quote article) a minor character in Sonic to List of Sonic the Hedgehog characters ; edit was reverted.  Seeking a broader consensus.  I note from the edit histort that there has already been some discussion of the topic, concluding that a redirect is appropriate.  TheLongTone ( talk ) 12:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions .  Owen× ☎ 13:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  This AfD does not have a policy-based reason for merging; being a minor character in Sonic is not relevant to whether he is notable.  It also misquotes the article; it does not say that this is a minor character, it says that Big plays a minor role in a single Sonic anime series.  In his debut role, he's one of six main characters of the game, and he later appears as one of the four trios of characters in Sonic Heroes.  - Cukie Gherkin ( talk ) 13:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect per the consensus in this past discussion .  And a second time here.  I asked the article creator what's changed, and it's been days and they haven't responded.  It's unclear to me what sources represent significant coverage of the character itself.  Even if notability is met, it should be sent back to the draft and copy edited.  These prose is extremely rough.  No idea why a draft like this was rushed out.  Sergecross73 msg me 14:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect There is a bit of significant coverage from Escapist, but overall there doesn't seem to be enough for a standalone page on the character.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ ) 16:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect again.  Target should be List of Sonic the Hedgehog characters#Big the Cat .  The character is too minor for a full article even given that he has some fans.  There are a lot of references but all they do is verify that this is a minor character that some people like.  This article is also poorly written.  I see some people trying to fix that but I think that the notability problem would doom it even if they fixed everything that is fixable and so I recommend that they don't waste too much time on it.  Instead, if there is anything worth saving, maybe merge a few sentences (not more) into the redirect target.  Also, Froggy (Sonic the Hedgehog character) should be redirected to the same target to avoid a double redirect.  -- DanielRigal ( talk ) 18:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 19:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect .  It is quite unfortunate that I thought the 2 Eurogamer sources would help, but it really doesn't; just like the Kotaku source.  The Escapist alone wouldn't help, but the worst part is this [18] .  🍕 Boneless Pizza!  🍕 ( 🔔 ) 11:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Update to that last bit of your comment.  Sergecross73 msg me 15:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect I was the one that challenged this being redirected boldly since I had a feeling this character could be notable and I felt as if this users past creations constantly being redirected for not being notable was a little harsh.  But now that I see the comment that was linked above, and looking at the article for myself, not only is it not notable, but the writing is horrendous.  Not to come off as harsh, but comment above and the user rushing the draft instead of waiting for feedback despite their past failures strikes me as the editor not being competent .  λ Negative MP1 14:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per the claims of @ Cukie Gherkin : or merge with List of Sonic the Hedgehog characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE .  -- Rtkat3 ( talk ) 15:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to List of Sonic the Hedgehog characters#Big the Cat - The sourcing is weak, with most of it being trivial or just gameplay feature announcements (i.e. "Big the Cat will be in this game").  Merging is not needed, since their section in the character list already includes the information here, just in a much more succinct, better written format, including his role in the games, appearances, and even the negative reception he received from fans.  Rorshacma ( talk ) 22:00, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: redirect