Carlton Lassiter : Anything of value is already said in the main Psych article.  Maxx-♥ talk and coffee ☕ 13:19, 10 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions .  Maxx-♥ talk and coffee ☕ 13:19, 10 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 13:58, 10 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep meets WP:GNG Loads of SIGCOV in Psych and Philosophy: Some Dark Juju-Magumbo [11] SIGCOV in the aggressively-titled Shit Is Fucked Up And Bullshit: History Since the End of History [12] SIGCOV in Paste review [13] More coverage of how the actor's real life medical issues were written into the second movie [14] — siro χ o 16:39, 10 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The first two touch on the character well, but I doubt that they are significant in scope enough to warrant a page.  The reviews are more fitting for either the actor's page or the movie's page.  Even then, the first two sources still appear to touch more on the character in the show rather than discuss him in a meaningful way that speaks to the broader genre, reception, or even impact.  Maxx-♥ talk and coffee ☕ 17:32, 10 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Just dropping some coverage from the above sources to help demonstrate WP:GNG : Psych and Philosophy: Some Dark Juju-Magumbo Michaud An Ad Hominem (translated "to the man") is a fallacy in which we attack the person instead of the claim that the person makes.  Lassiter is a favorite victim of Shawn's Ad Hominem.  Lassiter, especially early on in the series, would attempt to point out that Shawn is a fraud and, generally, Shawn refused to even engage Lassiter's claims.  He would simply call Lassiter a name of some kind or make fun of some neurotic quality of his, and move on.  Lassiter is often taken aback and dumbfounded by these comments, and before he can recover, Shawn has already moved on.  When we think about it, though, we realize that Shawn has never really addressed Lassiter's claim-he has avoided it by making fun of "Lassie."  Malloy the antithesis of the Overman--the last man.  Gus and Lassiter, in particular, are last men.  The last man, as Nietzsche describes him, is the ultimate herd animal.  He is mediocre, passive, and complacent.  Plainly, this is not a perfect description of either Gus or Lassiter, but in their relations to Shawn, they are last men.  Ruiz Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) identified something he called Slave Morality.  Detective Lassiter is a good example of someone in the grip of Slave Morality.  According to Nietzsche, slave morality is the kind of attitudes and behavior we adopt when our self-image is threatened by greatness in others.  Instead of looking within ourselves when we don't measure up to some ideal of excellence.  we find it easier to point fingers at others or to pretend that our own failings are really virtues.  Harris, Shit Is Fucked Up And Bullshit: History Since the End of History Like Hank, Psych's veteran detective, Carlton Lassiter (Timothy Omundson), can't hack it in the big leagues.  In keeping with Psych's ADD po-mo charm, he's not so much a movie antihero cop as a cop who models himself on movie antihero cops.  But amid Shawn and his partner Gus's (Dulé Hill) buddy-comedy hijinks, the show never develops "Lassie" and his conflicts with his partner Juliet (Maggie Lawson) ... and Police Chief Vick (Kirsten Nelson).  The series hints at a wrecked marriage and his obsessive need to be the cop archetype he imagines he should be (setting him up for a means-ends crisis), but the writers never give him the narrative space to do much more than hint.  Omundson imbues this straight-man role with occasional glimpses of stern sadness that make him a bright point in an already strong cast.  In one episode, a visiting fed tells him he could have been an FBI agent, maybe, if he'd gone to college.  In another, he finds out that his score on the detective's exam--which he believed to be the highest in the department--wasn't only worse than Juliet's, but also worse than Shawn's, who aced the test as an adolescent.  Lassiter's good never seems good enough.  Gunderson in Paste They made Lassiter the lucky survivor of a brutal shooting in the middle of a secret case he can no longer remember, whose slow, monotonous recovery in a fancy private hospital outside of Santa Barbara is either part of the plot that got him shot in the first place (Lassiter’s take), or has him seeing mysteries ... where there are none....  Narratively, this works aces in giving Lassie plenty of opportunities to bicker with Shawn and Gus (Dulé Hill), vent to Juliet (Maggie Lawson) and grumble at Nurse Dolores (guest star Sarah Chalke), while also driving the plot engines of the story’s various investigations.  Practically, it gives Omundson—who’s really turning in excellent work—chill recovery-friendly perks like rolling around his room, Rear Window-style, in a slick wheelchair, hanging out with a sweet-tempered German Shepherd (spoiler: Morrissey is back!) and napping in a plush, king-sized bed while Rodriguez holds his hand....  In short: Lassiter’s recovery-centric arc, from start to finish, makes perfect sense.  Not only that, it’s a genuine joy to see the whole Psychphrancisco team rally around Lassiter after his stroke on screen, just as the whole Psych team has been rallying around Omundson after his own in the real world.  Nothing to baffle here.  — siro χ o 16:28, 13 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per sources found by Siroxo.  Pokelego999 ( talk ) 21:10, 13 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

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