Mathematics education in New York: Insufficiently distinct from Mathematics education in the United States .   Possibly could be redirected to New York Regents Examinations .  Walsh90210 ( talk ) 02:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and New York .  Walsh90210 ( talk ) 02:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Mathematics-related deletion discussions .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 05:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions .  Necrothesp ( talk ) 11:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .  It is true that the present article is very poorly sourced (I am not sure about the datedness but willing to take the nominator's word for it).   However, the content looks to me like it's all true and sourceable in principle.   Indeed, it's clear that this is a notable topic: there were major changes to the structure of New York State's mathematics courses and exams in the last 25 years, and they received widespread coverage at the time.   For example, here's one article about the 2007 change to Algebra-Geometry-Algebra 2 [65] , here 's an article about aligning math requirements to Common Core, and here 's an article about one particular administration of an exam that spends several paragraphs discussing various changes to state policies over time, as in the article we're discussing.   These various changes described in our article were mostly specific to New York State, making Mathematics education in the United States an unacceptable merge/redirect target, and I see no advantage to merging them into an article about Regents exams in general (better would be links out from that article to separate articles on the various subject areas it covers, when there is sufficient sourcing to permit that).   -- JBL ( talk ) 20:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Perhaps merging this with some material from New York Regents Examinations and renaming would be an improvement? Walsh90210 ( talk ) 21:20, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I don't understand this proposal/question; what content do you want to merge where, and rename what to what? -- JBL ( talk ) 00:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, L iz Read!  Talk!  03:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep The text needs citation and probably cleaning, but it's not beyond repair , and the topic is an encyclopedic one.  Redirecting to the Regent Examinations would be a bad move, because math education is more general than just the Regent Exams in algebra and geometry ( for example ), and likewise, they have Regent Exams on topics other than mathematics.  XOR'easter ( talk ) 02:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, L iz Read!  Talk!  03:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep .   Definitely a notable and encyclopedic topic, even if the article is extremely out of date and in poor shape.   I'd rather see somebody improve it than have it deleted as cleanup.  Malinaccier ( talk ) 01:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep