EcoCute: So I think it should be merged to air source heat pump Chidgk1 ( talk ) 17:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Engineering and Japan .  Chidgk1 ( talk ) 17:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : This is a weird one, it's largely sourced to technical documentation, some primary, some not.  It's well-sourced, but I'm not sure the sources are enough of a reason to delete it.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 18:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] have now bolded that i propose merge not delete Chidgk1 ( talk ) 19:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment: EcoCute is trade name, but widely used by Japanese manufacture and marketing.  As referred in external link, millions of unit installed in Japan and may be marketed to other area.  EcoCute is a type of heat pump, and some Japanese mfg. apply EcoCute technologies to Air to Water (A2W) pump for Europe market.  I agree EcoCute to be marge into heat pump as type of one tech.  method.  Namazu-tron ( talk ) 10:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Namazu-tron : Thanks - as far as I understand it EcoCute is only air source not ground source or water source.  If I understood right then it might be better to merge into air source heat pump rather than heat pump I suppose.  Chidgk1 ( talk ) 10:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Yes, it is air source heat pump.  Pls pay attention in marge process, not to neglect advantage of EcoCute description and feature. @ Namazu-tron ( talk ) 12:02, 22 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] EcoCute is already installed millions of units in Japan, and probably marketed in other area based on technical advantage.  It is state in article EcoCute (Japanese: エコキュート, Hepburn: ekokyūto) is an energy-efficient electric heat pump in head description.  Article “Heat Pump” does not refer EcoCute in its text, and Ecocute article simply refer in See also section.  It means Article EcoCute is well satisfy to “not delete” and eligible to be exist as an article alone, and user may understand two article EcoCute and Hear pump each other. @ Namazu-tron ( talk ) 11:07, 27 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, Owen× ☎ 00:01, 28 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete : Largely technical and legal documentation, none of which provides notability.  I can't find sources for this industrial equipment.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 15:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Question : @ Namazu-tron : @ Oaktree b : As one of you wants to keep and the other delete could you both compromise and let me merge this as I originally proposed?  Chidgk1 ( talk ) 07:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] As I added external link Heat-pump-increased-production-of-japanese-version-ecocute in Europe market recently 2023.  Ecocute is tradename but widely used Japanese manufacture might be trade name right holder for deployment not only in Japan and aiming in Europe as well.  So far, only 3 users participating this marge/delete discussion.  My first edit as new article was  23:58, 7月 10, 2008.  I see your write up histories for many other articles.  Let’s wait for other uses comment and no need to be rushed. @ Namazu-tron ( talk ) 09:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Briefly merge, fine, this isn't notable enough to have an entire section in that article.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 16:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] My opinion is no delete , nor Wikipedia:Merging and nor Wikipedia:Redirect .  Once an article A deleted and marge to another article B, even A redirected to B, anyone can edit article B include word A in context of article B, but long term in future, it is possible/happen the word A may disappear from B due to number of editing by many editor/user.  No one able to guarantee such sad thing if article A is worthful.  This is my understanding.  Now, The fact today is that millions of EcoCute unit used in houses and industries in Japan, and globally most people facing the Periodization of Climate variability and change and Climate change .  Energy and cost cut/effective hot water making is demanded in global scale for CO 2 reduction worldwide market in Europe/north & south America, South Asia, Oceania.  EcoCute is trademark of Kansai Electric Power Company (KEPC) does not produce EcoCute.  Every power companies include KEPC, house maker/big and small house contractor recommend EcoCute to user on fair market competition.  KEPC hold trademark, and my guess is, trademark EcoCute is to permit naming as Ecocute to use every 20-30 manufactures, may be coming year into Europe and/or America martket opening when minimum requirement satisfied, and KEPC will allow variety of EcoCute Specification (technical standard) depend on market and producer.  With trademark registered, nobody can make and sell cute/charming toy with naming of EcoCute, for example, it prevent EcoCute be confused and disturbed in market where CO 2 emission decrease under people’s wish.  I believe that, KEPC is willing to diffusion (business) of EcoCute not only in Japan, globally worldwide in hope of cut CO 2 emission reduction.  Naming of EcoCute is only applicable for hot water making and supply system Air source heat pump with Refrigerant by CO 2 as commercialize first country under corporation with Norwegian/German physicist, as described in Etymology and other section, and not applicable no supplying hot water machine such as air conditioner nor refrigeration system.  I hope users, herein discussion, to improve context of article EcoCute with big hope as contributing editor rather than delete/marge.  I mean to keep/improve article EcoCute is really contribution not only Wikipedia but also global problem.  EcoCute placed in Japanese market by Corona Corporation ( コロナ ) in May 2001 and more than 20 years passed.  Technologies for EcoCute seems already well matured/completed, it seems, and not enough sources even in Japanese, as far as I look for web site, most available sources are for marketing purpose.  I will improve article EcoCute as well as I can, my an excuse is not pay attention even on Talk page after first edit in/around in 2008, my contribution on other article both English and Japanese edition, but not so frequent.  Thank you. @ Namazu-tron ( talk ) 12:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, Sandstein 12:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Products and Technology .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 20:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Relisting comment: Additional comments and analysis on the available source material would be quite helpful.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: merge