Fashion of Shakira : Everm4e ( talk ) 22:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge to Cultural impact of Shakira .  Sources used don't seem to support the stand-alone notability here, but there's no need to hard delete, redirect will be ok, and some stuff may be salvageable.  -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 05:41, 21 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions .  Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 05:41, 21 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Colombia .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:13, 21 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete there exists no definitive source that explicitly and categorically attributes any particular fashion trends to Shakira.  Nonetheless, the singer has adorned herself with various clothing that has garnered attention and commentary.  Nevertheless, there exists no evidence to suggest that Shakira was the progenitor of any particular fashion trend.  Thus, the current article would only serve as a mere inventory of clothing donned by the artist, which lacks in significance.  Best – jona ✉ 14:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge only properly sourced material to Cultural impact of Shakira per above.  // Timothy :: talk 09:41, 25 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Fashion and cultural impact are two different things, and I am concerned with the proposed merger that it will cause most of the fashion content to get cut.  As far as I am aware, nobody needs to be the progenitor of a particular fashion trend for it to be notable they wore those clothes.  This article is clearly based off of Fashion of Madonna which is separate from Cultural Impact of Madonna and I don't think there's a solid argument for why Shakira should be any different, especially because the Cultural Impact of Shakira article is already very long without the extra content.  In my personal opinion, what this article really needs is someone who is knowledgeable in fashion and fluent in Spanish to analyze whether or not this is notable.  And it needs to be copyedited.  Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk ; please ping me in replies ) 05:05, 27 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, CycloneYoris talk!  00:14, 28 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete - Blatant WP:FANCRUFT .  -- TheInsatiableOne ( talk ) 12:06, 28 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment Footwear News : Colombian singer Shakira has had an immeasurable impact on music and fashion globally.  Women's Wear Daily : While Shakira is known for her musical versatility, she’s been making a statement with her fashion for decades.  Vogue France : Shakira's decades old formula to her signature style Remezcla : Casio’s watch sales have increased since the release of Shakira’s song British Vogue : Shakira breaks down 19 looks from 2000 to now NBC : ‘Shakira, Shakira' Exhibit to Open at GRAMMY Museum in March 2023. "When it comes to Shakira’s on-stage style, she is timelessly consistent. Through the decades, she has energetically performed in outfits that hug her silhouette and expose her midriff. The "She-Wolf" has always remained loyal to her low-waist skirts and bottoms."  These are just sources in English.  I'm not seeing any solid arguments for why this is WP:FANCRUFT, and as the article on FANCRUFT itself says, calling something FANCRUFT "is not a substitute for a well-reasoned argument based on existing Wikipedia policies."  Like, is the Grammy museum fancruft?  Is Vogue fan cruft?  Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk ; please ping me in replies ) 17:17, 28 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge to Cultural impact of Shakira .  This is about style, style is an aspect of culture.  Lamona ( talk ) 02:39, 1 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: merge