List of Russian superheroes: Lists are nearly always uninformative crap unless you are talking about statistics, or chronologies of office holders or award winners.  Dronebogus ( talk ) 08:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Lists .  Dronebogus ( talk ) 08:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation and Russia .  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:31, 17 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Question @ Dronebogus : I don’t think this is a notable intersection of topics : Is that based on a WP:BEFORE search, or just an opinion?  Thanks!  Daranios ( talk ) 15:16, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] It’s just a guess, but I think a pretty reasonable one since the list is mostly non-notable examples.  If the topic is notable, we should make an article and then a list.  Dronebogus ( talk ) 17:37, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Dronebogus : Would you consider doing such a WP:BEFORE search after all to substantiate your claim?  It's an expected part of what the nominator should do in the deletion process , when notability is the issue.  Daranios ( talk ) 20:09, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I’ll try when I can but right now I’m mildly ill.  Dronebogus ( talk ) 20:28, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Thanks.  I wish you a speedy recovery!  Daranios ( talk ) 20:30, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] It was just a bad stomachache from overeating, I’m fine.  I did a quick look and, no, there do not appear to be any non-listacle sources about Russian superheroes as a group.  Dronebogus ( talk ) 12:50, 23 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] "Listicle" has been used as to be non-serious in discussions on Wikipedia, but I believe that this has to be decided on a case-by-case basis - especially as we are dealing with a list here, too.  So I would be interested what listicle sources there were.  Thanks.  Daranios ( talk ) 13:16, 23 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Look in “news” on google.  Usual “TOP 10 MOST THINGIEST RUSSIAN SUPERS” from lower-quality websites known for churnalism.  Dronebogus ( talk ) 18:03, 23 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Same as all the others.   There are enough entries with their own Wikipedia articles to make this a valid navigational list, far more useful than the category for this at Category:Russian superheroes since it allows more information to be displayed.   Any entry that isn't notable can be removed.  D r e a m Focus 15:39, 22 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.  Please add new comments below this notice.  Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:43, 24 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Procedural keep .  "Lists are nearly always uninformative crap" is an obviously invalid deletion rationale and suggests that the nominator doesn't take this process or this project seriously.  pburka ( talk ) 19:42, 24 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Did you even read the above comment string with Daranios?  I did WP:BEFORE and got nothing much other than low-quality listicles, confirming my actual rationale that this is not a notable intersection of topics.  WP:AGF applies here.  Dronebogus ( talk ) 00:13, 25 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep and limit to notable entries.  There are enough notable entries to maintain a list.  Thebiguglyalien ( talk ) 22:40, 24 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: keep