List of current American Indoor Football team rosters: A collection of sports rosters should not be created just to need to be updated continually, when that info can be obtained elsewhere.  And no sources were even cited.  Andre 🚐 06:04, 25 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople , Lists of people , American football ,  and United States of America .  WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 06:36, 25 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete: WP:NOTDATABASE applies here.  Concur with the nom.  User:Let'srun 14:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Let'srun and @ Andrevan why doesn’t it apply?  Leagues like the IFL and NAL have List of their current rosters?  So why can’t the AIF have one?  none of them have sources on them and they are allowed to stay and be verified ParkerLyme ( talk ) 01:11, 26 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Please provide the links to these unsourced pages so I can file to delete them Andre 🚐 01:13, 26 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Andrevan List of current National Arena League team rosters , List of current Indoor Football League team rosters But the MLB, NFL, and NBA do the same thing with their lists I think it is just a thing sport pages do ParkerLyme ( talk ) 03:10, 26 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I'll just tag them as refimprove for now, and give people a chance to add any sources.  Andre 🚐 03:15, 26 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Andrevan thing is there is a whole category for lists of these types of rosters List of current AFC team rosters , List of current CFL team rosters , List of current NFL team rosters , List of current NBA team rosters , etc.  Every sports league does this so I think it is just a normal practice here on Wikipedia None of them in the Category of Lists of current team rosters use references Look for yourself because by that logic you are giving me for the deletion of this article and the others I mentioned they should all be deleted Because there is no way to put official sources for rosters other than linking their roster websites on the templates ParkerLyme ( talk ) 03:25, 26 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Er... yeah.  I mean, there's WP:OSE to bear here, but the existence of these doesn't mean they don't need sources.  Andre 🚐 03:33, 26 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] It just doesn’t make any sense any more because most of these pages have been here for years and probably decades and never once have they been flagged So exactly what are guidelines for all these templates There has to be consistentcy one can’t go while the others do the exact same thing The thing you mentioned said that isn’t the greatest argument but if there are 33 other articles that exist and have for a long time doing the same thing then apparently there is some guideline here neither of us is aware of Not trying to start an argument but we need consistency ParkerLyme ( talk ) 03:37, 26 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Consistency is not actually something that we need.  We need WP:RS , and I'm quite aware of this, and it applies to all articles.  Please see WP:V .  If there are 33 articles that lack any kind of sources, they all need to be improved or removed, in my humble opinion.  Nothing personal.  Andre 🚐 04:39, 26 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .  Fails LISTN, and just reproduces the (non-independent, primary) roster lists at the teams' respective websites.  Unlike NFL lists where there could be some claim to navigational utility and for which secondary independent sources most definitely exist, this and many of the other lists don't serve any useful purpose for navigation (due to almost all the entries being non-notable) and don't provide info beyond that of a database.  Readers are much better served visiting the league or team sites where they can see automatically updated rosters with more info on individual players.  JoelleJay ( talk ) 17:06, 26 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete per User:JoelleJay .  Cbl62 ( talk ) 03:04, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete