Christopher Ingvaldson: This is a low-profile person who does not clearly pass either the ten year test for enduring significance, or the standards at PERP for when an article about a criminal is actually warranted.  Instead, the article started out as a poorly sourced sports BLP on the basis of his previously having played field hockey at a level that might possibly have passed the sports notability standards of 2006 but certainly doesn't pass the sports notability standards of 2023, and then by 2009 it featured such sparkling prose as "Ingvaldson is also locally known as the only teacher at St.Georges who can rip a phonebook in half(if he was spazzing) and survive an argument with Mr.Jamieson" (unsourced, natch) — the crime issue came along only in 2010, four years after the article was created, and the article most likely would never have even existed at all (or would have been shitcanned by AFD if it had been newly created) on the basis of the crime alone.  There's an additional BLP sensitivity here, because he once tangentially happened to briefly share the same employer as a prominent Canadian politician a full decade before the crime, and IP editors have attempted to inflate that minor fact into the explosive implication that the politician shares direct personal culpability in the subject's crime.  This person simply is not significant enough to warrant the amount of monitoring this requires.  Bearcat ( talk ) 01:26, 15 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note:  This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People , Crime ,  and Canada .  Bearcat ( talk ) 01:26, 15 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Fails WP:PERP .  LibStar ( talk ) 02:32, 15 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete as the subject is clearly non notable this article has no real purpose other than as an attack page.  Mccapra ( talk ) 04:33, 15 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Definately not notable.  Masterhatch ( talk ) 11:26, 15 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Horrible crime, but simply a routine crime of this type with no long-term legal effects or changing of anything really.  Found guilty, did his time.  Almost a revenge page at this point.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 13:41, 15 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete not notable for either the crime or their hockey career.  Being a room mate and friend of Trudeau isn't useful either as notability is not inherited.  Canterbury Tail talk 18:02, 15 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] This almost appears to be some attempt to smear Justin Trudeau, as it really has no importance in relation to the person; pure conjecture, but there are a certain set of individuals on social medial that think Trudeau is some sort of WW2-era German person.  Which I can't type because of the firewall at work... "I lived with a guy once, and he's famous now but wasn't then" doesn't really add to notability, maybe an interesting tidbit.  Oaktree b ( talk ) 19:53, 15 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Agree it’s delete for all the reasons stated above.  This looks like a very easy call.  Go4thProsper ( talk ) 01:09, 16 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete .  Obviously, it's all out of proportion.  And the attachment to Trudeau certainly raises a lot of questions.  Suitskvarts ( talk ) 17:51, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it.  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Discussion outcome: delete