|Year|Host|Gold|Silver|Bronze|
|---|---|---|---|---|
|1976|Paraguay (Asunción)|Brazil|Paraguay|Argentina|
|1981|Peru (Lima)|Brazil|Colombia|Argentina|
|1986|Colombia (Cúcuta)|Brazil|Colombia|Peru|
|1987|Argentina (Mar del Plata)|Argentina|Brazil|Chile|
|1990|Ecuador (Ibarra)|Brazil|Argentina|Ecuador|
|1992|Chile (Santiago)|Brazil|Argentina|Colombia|
|1995|Brazil (São Roque)|Colombia|Brazil|Argentina|
|1996|Ecuador (Quito)|Argentina|Brazil|Colombia|
|1998|Chile (Ancud)|Brazil|Argentina|Bolivia|
|2000|Venezuela (San Felipe)|Brazil|Argentina|Venezuela|
|2002|Chile (Santiago)|Ecuador|Chile|Paraguay|
|2004|Bolivia (Quillacollo)|Brazil|Argentina|Bolivia|
|2005|Paraguay (Asunción)|Argentina|Brazil|Paraguay|
|2007|Venezuela (Guanare)|Venezuela|Argentina|Brazil|
|2009|Chile (Santiago)|Brazil|Chile|Argentina|
|2011|Colombia (Pasto)|Colombia|Argentina|Brazil|
|2013|Ecuador (Portoviejo)|Brazil|Argentina|Chile|

Question: what is the total number of times brazil and argentina did not win gold?
Answer: 4