Hi Idioma I have to assume that you are a fairly intelligent person The stuff youre coming out with on the ceiling fan talk page is simple childish pointblankintuitive stuff So it seems that youre basis is personal rather than professional I encourage you and anyone else to make intelligent  constructive  detailed  legitimate  wellfounded comments and suggestionsbut petty stuff really just doesnt belong So please evaluate your true motives here and examine what you write before you hit save page Thanks