September  UTC  What do you propose  to write Jewish involvement so that you can blame me as conspracyadherent and antisemit I am not going to tumble into this pitfall one of the sources has clearly the title Involvement of Israel so neither the adjective nor the substantive are my figment I am well aware of the difference of a Jew having an Israeli passport and one who has passport of another country where he leaves In the case of the two ministers they have Isaeli passports and are Israeli it is clearly stated