Had someone requested a case I would have accepted given the complexity of it  I deleted the threads from my inbox and have not yet resubscribed to look at the archives My recall is that I initially thought or posted leaning in favour of a ban but after reading bits and pieces realised I was going to have to do a whole lot of reading myself to figure where I stood When one can actually wield a banhammer and one is faced with the prospect of using it one well I do anyway become alot more circumspect if there are grey areas to considerand there are some here