There is something to be said that this originally started over a dispute about whether Mary Ramsey Wood was  in  To accept that one would have to overturn the established world scientific and Western media consensus which holds Sarah Knauss as the US recordholder It turned out that research discovered that she was  or  years old Without meaning to reignite the issue the question became on what authority should we put that she was only  or  I had argued that since Wikipolicy states that selfpublished sources are acceptable as references if from an established authority questions then began about whether I was an established authority or no It then followed logically to make a case that I did in fact know what I was talking about But if I had just a user page that wouldnt work One thing about Wikipedia that I think makes it clearly superior in some aspects to a paper encyclopedia is the use of wikilinks If one wants to find out more information all one has to do is simply click on that link Extraneous or offtopic material can be hidden thus strengthening the main articles focus while giving curious users the ability to click on the link for more information  Thus I had made an autobiography in response to requests for me to prove it However it does make sense that one could use a redirect so that if an article mentions me it can redirect to extreme longevity trackers In a sense given the material about GSU not really appropriate for an article it might be better to simply have a paragraph about each period of extreme longevity tracking This should include  Macrogroups Middle Ages Intermediate Period Modern Period   Microgroups individual researchers  William Thoms s Young  Alexander Graham Bell  Bowerman s A Ross Eckler Jr ss JeanMarie Robine spresent Jeanne Calment case individual focus Louis Epstein spresent Robert Young spresent Filipe Prista Lucas spresent  There could be more I have chosen the above as persons as being a good start Due to COI even if I were unblocked I now agree it would be better for a third party to write such an article to avoid the appearance of COI I do note that I give credit in my database for each individual case Mr Epstein does not  Also group efforts   Guinness World Records began  KannistoThatcher Database s Gerontology Research Group tracking began   Max Planck Institute tracking began   Today the three above groups are really the major players from a quasiinternational perspective  However there is also the governments themselves  Sweden compulsory birth registration began  England compulsory birth registration began   Japan began tracking centenarians  Germany began tracking centenarians  USA began tracking supercentenarians  but only after death  Thus the list needs a threepart focus individual research efforts institutionalgroup research efforts national research efforts  In fact there is quite a bit of material that will probably be published in the next few years In the interim the article may be filled in partially by persons finding sources Note there are even online books such as  httpwwwdemogrmpgdebooksodensehtm   Further if we source the source we find even more  httpwwwdemogrmpgdebooksodenserhtm  Interestingly the Irish record set in  is the oldest record still in existence Here is a detail  httpwwwdemogrmpgdebooksodensehtm  Now I would agree that if we were to maintain Wikipedia as topquality then we shouldnt branch out articles unlessuntil the main page becomes unweidly It will take quite some time to put this article together in a comprehensive manner It is true that sometimes pressure can lead to higherquality standards I just hope the same quality demands made of extreme longevity tracking would be applied to other areas in the Wikipedia With apologies to Jeff Zaslow his article isnt even sourcedJeff Zaslow However it is the unscholarly fields such as football video games and fictional TV characters that perhaps need the greatest cleaning for if we honor a football player for scoring ONE career touchdown what is the incentive to do better And while some insisted that Ryan Shays article not mention that he died at only  can we find any other reason why someone like Keeley Dorsey would be notable In retrospect that article only survived deletion because I nominated it too close to the death event It should be an unspoken policy to give recent deaths at least a month to cool down before they are nominated for deletion  To me a person in an academicscientificscholarly field is ultimately notable if they do something that has never been done before andor that fits well into a timeline of progress in that field Perhaps it was my error to bring a few articles to fruition before they were ripe Nonetheless I do believe that Dr Coles is notable as the first person in history to have set up a process of systematic supercentenarian autopsies mentioned on CNN Wall Street Journal etc for which he has discovered a new cause of death This research has not yet been published due to small sample size Thus perhaps it was a mistake to bring inside knowledge to the Wikipedia before it went through the proper channels Nonetheless its mentions in the press might argue that the cat is already out of the bag  Finally again I have been told that Dr Coles really was a professor at UCLA and is now retired It was an error not a deliberate attempt to mislead That an article needs to be cleaned up does not mean it needs to be deleted only if the prospects of improvement are not there should the article be deleted for example Keeley Dorsey died at  so his career will not change sad as his death was I find it incredulous that one career touchdownnotable  Here is a recent Dr Coles minibio  httpwwwagemedorgdefaultasppageFacultyNov  L Stephen Coles MD PhD Director Supercentenarian Research Foundation Visiting Scholar Department of Computer Science UCLA Dr Coles has been involved in various aspects of Age Management Medicine for over  years He received his Bachelors Degree in Electrical Engineering from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute his Masters Degree in Mathematics from The Carnegie Institute of Technology and his PhD in Systems and Communications Sciences from CarnegieMellon University After attending medical school at Stanford University he completed his Clinical Internship in Obstetrics and Gynecology at the University of MiamiJackson Memorial Hospital Dr Coles has taught at a number of wellknown universities throughout the country including Stanford UC Berkeley University of Miami University of Maryland UCLA USC Cal Tech and UCSD Dr Coles is also the Director of the Los Angeles Gerontology Research Group which he and three other scientists cofounded in the fall of  The Group currently meets on a monthly basis at the UCLA Medical School to hear scientific experts present the latest information on either theoretical or clinical aspects of Age Management Medicine Most recently Dr Coles was a founding member and named Director of the Supercentenarian Foundation Over the years the LAGRG has grown to over  members with more than half having advanced degrees MDs and PhDs   If this is true then Dr Coles is a FORMER professor of quite a number of schools   Let me also say this regarding Rejuvenation Research The former journal was called the Journal of AntiAging Medicine Many gerontologists didnt want to cite anything that said antiaging which has had a negative connotation due to groups such as this  httpwwwworldhealthnet  Thus it made sense that when the name was changed to Rejuvenation Research suddenly it became acceptable to use this journal as a reference Note there was also a change of editors from Michael Fossel to Aubrey de Grey However I do believe the name change issue allowed for a better relaunch  Note that the GRG group is a nonprofit organization not just an informal discussion group In addition to those meeting at UCLA membership worldwide is over  and a majority of these persons have advanced degrees  I do think it is a commendable effort to check and recheck material to ensure that it is valid as opposed to sloppily repeating mistakes made by others for example Dr Coles was a professor at UCLA not is a professor at UCLA Nonetheless one must be careful not to draw immediate conclusions without first giving those accused a chance to explain themselves That the name antiaging is generally held as anathema to citation by mainstream gerontology as it smacks of quackery helps to explain why a name change matters   Note also that Aubrey de Grey has come out stronger as a result of this debate  httpenwikipediaorgwikiDeGreyTechnologyReviewcontroversy  A concentrated effort was made by several prominent biogerontologists and institutions to find flawsholes in his ideas When they were unable to expose him as a fraud it followed that perhaps his ideas if still just theory not reality at least had to be respected as somethi