You keep harping on this but you still dont claim there is any other possible meaning to what Shinseki is reported to have told Rumsfeld  Telling ones superior that his plan will not be implemented is insubordination thats what the word means  Came close to is pulling the punch  And whether its in quote marks or not its what Babbins source told him Shinseki said  Im not convinced so unless I see a better argument within half an hour Im going to restore the line as it was before the vandal with the multiple IP addresses started messing with it