Now that youve found a way to do it it doesnt work the way I thoughthoped it would  I hoped we code code it as YYYYMMDD and that it would allow sorting on the column but would appear the way a users preferences were set up in my case MMMM DD YYYY  However since Dr who didnt but the brackets  in it wont translate to those preferences  Furthermore if the brackets were put in then it would still sort alphabetically by what the preferences dictate  which again looks lousy  Therefore I suggest that we ie you Dr who who knows how to do it relatively quickly restore the old style of date formats