Hey folk are going to start calling you Respectable Joe soon Thanks for the spot of refereeing It is a lot harder to change policy than it is to defend it Your help at the policy talkpage er Im bored with making all the links  they can be found at mine and other editors talkpages would be helpful To be honest though it is going to have to be civil and all that stuff cos some of the other lot will just use poor behaviour as an excuse to disregard valid points If you cant find your own references or ideas just support the ones you agree with Actually you may be able to help Do you have any siblings who are doing or have recently done English Language GCSE Or any of your fellow students Can you find any decent course books which show how proper nouns are dealt with Whilst style might vary with fashions education sticks with the standards of the age A course reference book may well help our cause