Thank you That clears alot up for me and possibly those who stumble across this  I have contact some of the Reputed members of the process and they are interested in making an underground online forum for The Process  Too bad the processorg is still down  If there was to be an underground forum do you think there should be some cautions  I read a small excerpt I beleive from William Morrison that processorg was a possible target for government hacking  I dont know of the dangers or the views of the MeAN but I dont think its that big of a threat because collectives like TOPY and people like Ogre and others arent dead  In my opinion either this hasnt happened because if they were somehow mysteriously dead then members would have figured out why and there would be a big scaffle  Or they dont view it as a threat  What do any of you think  HyperPsonik