your obsession with memy username now forming parts of titles  relating to a discussion on Farmer already covered above is disturbing and unhealthy So stop FYI my english is fine so dont worry Incivility is not just words but how these words are conveyed The tone Here both Read WPCIVIL  calls my statement false Not so Until I added the quote from Farmers book it was not there Only main source was Kaufmann Had it been the case then there would have been no incitament to start the discussion as above on sources and NPOV So s claim is false Arnold is mentioned peripherically wrt lobotomy claims but Kaufmann  refs remains WPUNDUE Id like to use my energy improving this article and others but instead had to fend off repeated nonstop gross incivility personal attacksfalse accusations and statements ascribed to me repeatedly without proof despite of clear statements in English opposing claims made above So  why dont you spend your energy actually editing constructively rather than spend your time backbiting me being mendacious and accusing others of having ulterior motives Practise what you preach Stick to the topic which is Frances Farmer Not me So improve that instead