Gsd I saw the comments by Rjensen and GraemeLeggett and if it will help I am sorry if it appeared as though I was falsly accusing you of solely advocating the position on Rockall However my statement was not only on Rockall but the article in general including the map and your position that we need to copy the style of academic literature Read it again and point out where I mention Rockall I simply pointed out the fallacy in your argument for excluding Rockall which from  to  was a possession and not anything like a county Sussex and that your example again indicates overall how you would wish the article written  As for Rjensens comments maybe he should then explain the various uninhabitable rocks possessed by Australia the United Kingdom and in particular the United States eg Ashmore and Cartier Islands Rockall Baker Island Howland Island Johnston Atoll Navassa Island and all the other United States Minor Outlying Islands Empire does not only deal with people and governments it also deals with territory and the status of the territory in relation to the possessing country  Guinnog as I said before this stuff is really not worth starting an edit war over If Gsd wants the article a certain way and others support him then they have every write to edit the article Of course considering that they can hardly answer any questions or points we may bring up or maybe they just ignore them nor actually give definitions to what constitutes kosher imperialism trivialities etc then we should bring this debate to some forum or bringing in an admin although by Gsds comments he or she seems to be or thinks he or she is admin Anon  pm April