htom I think this shows that you arent truly openminded  An apt response to the preceding quotes from Bandler andor Grinder would have been And NLP proponents wonder why they have such a hard time being taken seriously and those quotes are just a sample of the nonsense I can post from BG  But you were silent  You have no or very high threshold for incredulity in relation to what Bandler andor Grinder write or say in seminars but you do have a very low threshold for displeasure in relation to what others say about what Bandler andor Grinder write or say in seminars  Dont you think that this is strange  Can you tell us where your threshold for incredulity is pegged in relation to Bandler and Grinder  What would Bandler and Grinder have to write or say for you to just respond that is a load of bullshit  In Bandlers DVD set How to Live a Happy Life  Years of NLP on DVD  Bandler claims that he designed the first space toilet for NASA on DVD  Bandler claims that he decided what is standard issue in sidearms for the US Army he says that the US Army sent him hundreds of handguns to his house via a courier company to test for them on DVD  Bandler says that he has nonhuman blood on DVD  Bandler says he is a physicist I forget which DVD but in that same set he states emphatically that physicists he uses we because he of course is a physicist dont know how magnets work I can go on  but I wont  How do these claims jibe with you  Is that all gospel truth or plain bullshit  Where do you stand Am I being a prick if I dont believe that Bandler designed the first space toilet for NASA  Am I tarnishing your idols if I dont believe that Bandler chose the Beretta M for the US Army  Am I an outofcontrol skeptic that just doesnt believe anything  People like you fascinate me  Tell me more