Hello I meant to and actually did send a tks email about an hour ago for all the help with fixing my rubbish spelling on the van Eycks My ISP sucks plain and simple and its one of those here todat gone tomorrow merchants Well it doesnt advertise its self as such and is actually a semi state but will has all the efectivness and relability that such a tag might suggest Thats my roun d about way of saying tks I notice the van eyck page has about k hits  month way more than the main Netherlandish page That makes sense and as the main Netherlandish page is such a big thing to take on I might confine myself there for the moment and work on that Yopu on for it it only reward i might have is two a penny u tube links eg some electro