yep I said in my summary that that was it for now  I do tho have a big issue with Laurance and others making this MAJOR CHANGE controlled drowning without consensus  I believe the article should stay at the preLaurences halloween edit until a new consensus for change is established  thus far I simply dont see that As such I contend that I am not making major changes  but preventing and reverting major changes until a consensus is achieved Obviously with RRs I am backing off for others now as we dont want to go back down the war road