Alright I am willing to concede that the CIA allegations are flimsy at best therefore I will stop the edit warring  While you may not consider it too important I think the issue of Assange as the founder to be another example of lazy journalism  Your source for Assange as founder of Wikleaks was MSNBCcom  I dont necessarily consider MSNBC to be a reliable source most of the time  Corporate news does not do real journalism  They copy news from one source or they make stories up  It seems to me that the idea of Assange as founder is a meme  I have never read a quote from Assange whereby he states that he founded Wikileaks  This idea seems to be mostly promulgated by the US corporate media  Perhaps to vilify him in the minds of Americans so that later he can be lynched  This seems like Propaganda  to me  The Wikileaks site does not identify Assange as the founder  Where is the evidence        MARCH  UTC