Once again  please report me I have been involved discussed the manner rationally for months upon end  your discussions are simply going around in circles and filling talk pages with material that is not useful at all to anyone who wanta to improve the articles Please stop trying to quote WPs rules every time you attempt to make a point  its becoming rather repetitive and you are also forgetting WikipediaIgnoreallrules Above all you have not provided any reliable sources to support your position contrary to the fact that there are umpteen multiple sources indicating NIs flag as the UB