This was on the first ever Bahai talk page and I am interested in quoting it here I you want to reference it then visit achive An oldtimer who has been here since the very very early days I know Larry Sanger if that helps gives you a sense of time  I rarely participate in discussions I am an administrator  one of the first ever appointed  but I rarely exercise my admin rights I generally try to avoid many of the petty disputes that the admins regularly get themselves caught up in  In the offchance that anyone cares about my opinion I am very disturbed by the trend to championing process over quality which has become a hallmark of the pedias internal wrangling Its heartbreaking and is the reason why so many good people have left the project  As a result I just stick to writing content whenever I find the time Roddy Young PS looking at the copyright laws I feel that delete and rvt others work may be argued as superceeding the persons copyright entitlement It that is the case and upset was had due to deletes and a law suit could be taken over other deleting work this would raise some interesting changes to the culture of wikipedia and may even be the end of it as we know I must admit that attention is agained when someone deletes a bit of work If deleting stopped then wikipedia would become flabby Jeff I invite you to take the new understanding that you have gained and present a case to the policy committee Why Because that would atone for you deleting work and rvt work that was never authored in the first place I have to talk this out to concensus before I go back to the page to add material to the main page So those people that ask to leave the matter and move on miss the point that deletes are at the heart of the matter What is at the heart of this matter is the following text Bahai content has made its way on to wwwyoutubecom website With over  million video downloads each day and  million users per month on Youtube this website is a growing forum for Bahai Holy Day commemorations and other Bahai content in audio visual material The earliest video upload was added September   Bahai wedding The next oldest video upload was added October   Aniversrio do Bab  Babs Birthday As of  August  there is  video uploads that have the tags Bahai that is picked up in a Youtube search Aniversrio do Bab  Babs Birthday has  views in  months and Bahai wedding has  views Now when I last read Nibils Narrative the book on the early history of the Babis  heroic era I was impressed This book only needs a link and a reference on the main Bahai page because we would expect a person to get the book out and read it Space is saved on the main page However I do see the youtube content as a contempory addition to the Main pages that requires a few lines These lines make the first notes of the present day contempory Nibils Narrative Age and era of forfilment is now The heroic era is over and closed It makes good encyclopedic material However the real time heroic material is real time It is happening all around the world ruhi books childrens classes devotional meetings and junior youth When activities inspired by these efforts are reported on Youtube then that becomes material for the modern day contempory Nibils Narrative Bahai content hasmade its way on to wwwyoubecom website Is a true statement With over  million video downloads each day and  million users per month on Youtube makes the fact notable my greatest numbers  unconscious concensus Bahai Holy days and commemorations is very much Bahai page content People gathering today around the world to remember the  May  at a Holy day and recording a video and uploading it on Youtube now lets me look at other languages and cultures doing the same as I The earliest video uploadwas added September   this fact is true The link to the video is the reference method open to verification Jeff do you consider delete as an infringement of my copyright by superceeding If so I agree that talk needs to happen first in the talk page before moving to the main page You have my commitment to that Jeff do you see how you are the best person to take a policy suggestion change to the wikipedia You are more articulate than I and others who are giving non verbal confirmation that they also see your higher station You have shown unquestioned loyalty well trained mind mature experience recognised ability and mature experience That is why I am asking you represent this talk with a new policy suggestion around ogg and the like With love Roddy Young