What were you ranting about  Are you talking to me or the  people whove downloaded this refutation of you and your uncivil friends httpwwwmininovaorgtor  And so that everyone can see part of it here  JoshuaZ said  Starfire as I tried to explain to you Wikipedia cares about reliable sources and verifiability not truth Now if you read that guideline you may understand why in general AIG and many of the other sources you used are not reliable sources  Hey JoshuaZ the liar where does Wikipedias policy say that AnswersInGensisorg is not a reliable source Where JoshuaZ the vandal and liar Show us So you think saying Now is scientific evidence that you are a wise and intelligent teller of the truth or that you know what a reliable and verifiable source is  JoshuaZ where does Wikipedias policy say that the Jacob Sheep Association  a reliable and verifiable source that Jacob Sheep are biologically primitive you hypocrite Explain that hypocrite who personally attacked Starfire using lies  Show your references JoshuaZ Saying Now is not a reference that your accusations are true are they Why cant you make sense Joshua  Again where did those verses prophecy anything Do these look like prophecies JoshuaZ  Joshua also said  In this case they did have sources so you have even less of an argument  Wrong JoshuaZ Simply citing sources as you yourself said does not make the source valid It must be substantiated and verifiable Why do you conveniently forget that you smug babbling hypocrite  Your later comments dont merit much of a response but I wThen he said  ill simply note that accusing people of bigotry bias hypocrisy irrationality and trolling makes my earlier comment about not using Darwinist as a slur somewhat irrelevant  Because you said so JoshuaZ and whatever you said is true is true because you said so So much for references eh All you have to do is accuse and it makes you right right hypocrite See how you go round and round in circles using circular reasoning  if your earlier comment toed the line the one above crosses it  Because you said so JoshuaZ and whatever you say is true because you said so Science  I suggest you calm down  I suggest you not use sarcastic insults like that ok hypocrite Youre implying that the Starfire is illtempered merely because he points out that you are hypocrite and uses logic to do so as well as verifiable references on Answersingenesiscom which you lied about not being reliable and being against Wikipedias rules to cite ok liar  I suggest you also not command a Christian to follow your moral standards over Christs over Gods He is a Christian dont ya know Are you now God to tell him how to feel and think I suggest you read this verse and take it to heart which millions of Christians know very well so that you learn how not to offend them again  Be angry and do not sin do not let the sun go down on your anger and give no opportunity to the devil  Ephesians   Last time I checked JoshuaZ neither your nor Wikipedias rules superceded Gods   and read the relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines while you wait for your block to expire  Oh the old you need to read it but I dont and you sit and think while your grounded young man insults What an arrogant childish hypocrite you are  I suggest that you stop pretending that whatever you say is true merely because you said it and again learn what Starfire properly told you to learn  Ill enhance the list for you  Reference evidence truth reality lie bigot hypocrite fallacy circular reasoning troll stalking harassment insults hatred and love  And Joshua also said  This is in addition to issues of original research in regard to Biblical prophecies and other issues on the Charles Darwin page  Wow you sure like to weaselword other issues What are you references for this vague other issues JoshuaZ the Policy Master of Wikpedia  And Joshua who said anything about prophecies Where did Starfire say anothing about prophecies No JoshuaZ the wannabe scholar he said predicted in the same way that science can be used to predict the outcome of an experiment If your lazybrained truthcareless self had been paying attention to what he said CARE FULL Y you might have noticed that the verses were using PAST TENSE JOSHUA not FUTURE TENSE JOSHUA If you are unable to tell the difference between past tense and future tense what business do you have playing judge If you are unable to figure out the difference between multiple meanings of words and are quick to judge that means rushing carelessly to judge what business do you have being a judge Big duh right there Here you go Joshua read the verses again and please explain how you missed that they are past tense  For although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him but they BECAME PAST TENSE JOSHUA futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened Claiming to be wise they BECAME fools and EXCHANGED the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things Therefore God GAVE them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator who is blessed forever Amen For this reason God GAVE them up to dishonorable passions For their women EXCHANGED natural relations for those that are contrary to nature  and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error  Did those caps help Joshua Were those big enough hints for you And Joshua since when is the Christian teaching that ignoring God leads to homosexuality original Are you blind Did those plainly worded verses they arent metaphors genius pose to great a challenge for your mind to understand Where have you been while Christians for the past  years have been preaching that turing away from God leads to homosexuality Well you fake religion expert Well lying Joshua Where ya been Mr Judge of Christianity Can we see your degrees in religion and Christian history oh Expert Judge JoshuaZ Got any references for us that can be substantiated and verified Lol Not  So again what business do you have judging  Take a hint from God your master who you are mocking and disobeying  Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes There is more hope for a fool than for him Proverbs   Fool in ancient Hebrew means very wicked person So there is more hope for a very evil man then for you Joshua  A man who remains stiffnecked after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyedwithout remedy   Reference From Proverbs  in the Bible the best selling most archeologically and scientifically verified historical record in the world Reference  See Scientifically and Archeologically Substantiated and Verified Books Proving the Accuracy of the Bible  I suggest you play catch up with me Starfire and the other  million Calvinists including the scientists among them who you dont hold a candle to  Joshua lose the smug bitter and hateful attitude and realize this truth Just because you didnt call anyone a moron or hypocrite doesnt mean you are not personally attacking not being hateful and not insulting Do you understand that truth Joshua Its very simple it doesnt take a genius to understand Learn what passive aggressive means too  Personal attacks are not whatever you say they are nor is a personal attack unjustified if you are vandalizing Wikipedia You a PERSON are attacking Starfire A PERSON on Wikipedia so stop acting surprised when you are attacked back Lose the God complex the Do as I say not as I do attitude Joshua  Note JoshuaZs lies against Starfire lies which are ultimately against God can be found in the User Starfire Baited by Darwinists and Blocked htm file which is in the Banning Christian Editors Using Unsubstantiated Accusations folder  Made possible thanks to my Loving Helper Now you go to your room and you think about your truthhiding ways