February  UTC He explicitly states that it should be taken with a grain of salt  He states in the succeeding paragraph to his quote However as this was a rough estimate that I gathered from people fleeing the scene it should not be discussed within academic circles  I guess we should just agree to disagree about this as I think its pointless trying to belabor a single point By your logic we would have to include Frank Capra as well I personally think that we should remove both of them if you dont mind  I agree with you in that some of these estimates were indeed rough however the estimates made that referenced burial records and actual field surveys should be taken as Bob Wakabayashi says superlative to other estimates particularly those referencing contemporary eyewitnesses