Vidkun  It looks like we agree more than we disagree We agree its only been called Wicca since Gardner Thats what I said before Witchcraft has indeed been practiced for eons before Gardner No argument there  Ive already said my piece about initiation and covens So I wont rehash that I will add that I feel its equally valid and important to note that those who arent in covens are initiated into Wicca by God and Goddess themselves That is more important at least in my opinion than a coven initiating them  I will differ with you on one other thing that hasnt been previously discussed Unless youre referring to orthopraxy on a fairly broad scale I dont see that as being valid either Again the concept an it harm none do as ye will would also range to differing practices ideas and the like That phrase as pointed out wasnt even coined by Gardner but Crowley and even before him  Blessed be  Gabhin