Ive have in the travels here on Wikipedia stumbled across some accounts that had been banned and in each case the banning notice advise the banned of the lenght of time the ban would be in effect If not improper might I be told  I edited a hidden note to clean it up and expand it in hopes it would then be better understood and accepted because in the state it was in it was jumbled and confusing obviously such things are IMO Also part of the message was put in a hidden note before the word in the principle article are  that was sought by other before me to be protected and to remain unchanged and part of the hidden notes message was put behind the word are in what is a separate hidden note a factor I saw as being counterproductive but concerning which I also had an idea in my mind as to why someone might want a word or two  but few words were best IMO  in the part before the word are  Editor EscapeOrbit the person I understand is claiming that he was threatened now takes the position that that the hidden note that was edited was near perfect and doing a good job for the many weeks it had been thereEscapeOrbit in his talk page comment of   February  wrote The facts are that this note has been on this article in one fashion or another for some while  I believe it is doing the job intended httpenwikipediaorgwindexphptitleTalkQueenbanddiffnextoldid  However the same EscapeOrbit on January   on the talk page for Queen said The wereare please note this is the same are in the principal article mentioned in my paragraph above in the lead  and dates in the info box get changed almost daily and have done so for years Please see the full entry in context in the footnotes where you can see EscapeOrbit is saying this in response to another readers encouragement to improve the article so it can be nominated as a Good Article candidateIve put in this article for a peer review so that we can analyze what we need to do to improve it In the next few days I intend to nominate this article as a Good Article candidate however I feel work still needs to be done I will be making major improvements to the history segment of the article I feel we also need to develop a Further Reading section and add a lot more citations throughout the article Any contributions no matter how small would be sincerely appreciated Lets do Freddie proud and get this to Featured Article status TheStig  I fear youll not get very far with a GA nomination while there is still near constant edit warring over whether Queen still exist or not The wereare in the lead and dates in the info box get changed almost daily and have done so for years Is there no where we can get a definite answer that can be cited on this Escape Orbit   emphasis added or the page itself if you prefer httpenwikipediaorgwikiTalkQueenbandNationality  The hidden message was by EscapeOrbits own words having no good effect We had a written encouragement to improve the article so it could be submitted as a GA candidate see footnotes With my edit of   February   I included this edit summary expand existing important note with new footnote both to hopefully have it be more widely accepted resulting in lesser need to keep reverting these same few wordshttpenwikipediaorgwindexphptitleQueenbanddiffoldid The important note I addressed in my edit summary is the hidden note concerning the are The purpose intent and actual effect was an improvement in the hidden message  EscapeOrbits reason for wanting the language he wants in the hidden note in spite of the fact that it is not working at all to slow the daily changes to the words in the principle article that we actually both seek to have preserved is that he personally identifies himself with the phraseology and is on a quest to be personally responsible for having what are in his opinion  and interestingly enough I dont disagree here British subject matters use British English He writes about this phrasing precious to him that it is It is similar to a note that I frequently attach to British musical bands articles   emphasis added He is overly invested in defending the phrasing that by his own statement is not have a positive effect The problem is that he has posted frequently and so like a beloved child even though he says its not working he isnt about to have anyone change his baby  My changes to the hidden message are those words in bold are DO NOT CHANGE THIS TO IS OR WERE Are is the correct UK primary compulsory education reading level term  attempted footnote reference starts here I hope it is acceptable to expand this note that I agree does serve a purpose here the expansion being because at University level grade level  UK  equivalent to American grade  college junior and up in Britain we do learn a more technical worldly style that would treat a proper name such as this as a singular noun for purpose of common speaker predicate verb conjugation attempted footnote reference ends here Note unfortunately it seems per another editor that there can be no footnote to a hidden note so this part that I would have preferred be in a footnote was in the body of the hidden message and Brian and Roger still perform together so the band in present tense verbiage exists at the time that these words are read  Editor Radiopathy then edited my edit by almost entirely reverting it but adding a referencehttpenwikipediaorgwindexphptitleQueenbanddiffprevoldid I restore most of what was there before but keeping the new material a referencehttpenwikipediaorgwindexphptitleQueenbanddiffnextoldid   Editor Fred the Oyster then corrected spelling in my edit httpenwikipediaorgwindexphptitleQueenbanddiffnextoldid  Editor EscapeOrbit then deleted the previously existing request to editors to keep the present tense use of the verb are instead of were and the reasons therefore plus what I had restored concerning use of the plural are and Editor Fred Oysters improvement of my edit httpenwikipediaorgwindexphptitleQueenbanddiffnextoldid   Since EscapeOrbit wished so much deleted my writing being the larger part of his latest deletion  and Fred the Oyster had not deleted but rather improved the edit EscapeOrbit  put in his in his edit summary This article is not the place to pander to disruptive pedantry httpenwikipediaorgwindexphptitleQueenbanddiffnextoldid  I trust you are familiar with the nature of this strong personal insult coming from EscapeOrbit and leveled at me by telling Fred the Oyster not to pander to my pedantry   I found this to be rather strong and inappropriate language In my edit restoring the improvements to the language that EscapeOrbit takes credit for but that he himself said wasnt working saying that the are word has been changed almost daily for the many weeks since his edit  and also at the same rate for years before I added this edit summary your rvs was heavyhanded  unwarranted use of pedantry is misplaced and if meant likely to get you an improper punch in the nose by persons less civilized than present company  So that is where I think I set forth fairly we are coming from I took offense at the insult by EscapeOrbit I still think that his insult was misplaced I still think his edits and manner are heavyhanded and unwarranted and if you read some of his comments to varied people on the Queen talk page he is condescending and insulting I still think that if he goes about using such terms in person with people who are less civil with each other than we hopefully all strive to be here on Wikipedia or at least in our better moments should be so striving he will indeed likely to get  an improper punch in the nose I never threatened him I still have not Im here on Wikipedia Im present company I called such a punch iImproper and I put it in bold and I excluded myself from the uncivilized people would might so act It was not and is not a veiled threat that any sane person who is not psychotically overreacting and I am not suggesting such for him in this writing would take as a threat   It is however the way that someone trying desperately to protect his precious and beloved child  or phase that he uses so frequently that he feels personally identified with it so much so that he cannot bare to have it altered even though it is not working might claim makes him feel threatened in order to get others to help attack and control anyone threatening to touch his child