Im not an IMer Thats not a hostile response its just a fact I dont even know how to do an IM and to the extent I am familiar with it Ive disabled it because of all the warnings about viruses In any case its  in the morning here in Seattle and Ive got to get off to bed We can continue this later Incidentally Ive been in contact with the USMC and I expect to get a reasonably complete copy of the investigative report on Sanchez Will that be an acceptable secondary source or will there be some Wikipedia pillar principle that will be used to omit it