Hey I wasnt intending to be rude but ironic Concepts of irony differ between concepts of ironic most users of British English and HibernoEnglish claim that Americans dont do irony  which was why some modern US comedy shows have shocked Europeans by showing that some members do indeed do irony HibernoEnglish which I speak and write is heavily ironic and tongueincheek That comment was intended in that way I understand Eds desire for uniformity and indeed share it I have been creating formats and styles since I came here My only point is that when someone finds a better way of doing things we shouldnt adopt a mantra of Against the rules Against the rules but be willing to say thats a better way Lets see how we can turn it from a onceoff into something with a wider usage Maybe we should allow a number of variations on the master template and so allow users to opt for one Or create a specific template for religious leaders say Geralds one and allow variations for other categories Im sorry if my sarcasm was misinterpreted It is just a feature of hibernoenglish what is sometimes called tongueincheek Irish bitchiness