January  UTC  I thought that parts of the bio were moved to the history section and I just didnt want to lose anything with my revert  I may have made a mistake  Anyway this still looks a little misleading and a lot wordy  Ive cleaned up that language to say effectively the same thing with fewer quotation marks made it quite a bit clearer that both the OYD version and the historians version are not represented as  certainty added a mention of Yin Yang Doe technically the name according to my understanding for the line of Moo Doe thats claimed for Oom Yung Doe since its a Chinese line up until John C Kims generation and moved the line about starting training at age  to the bio since it didnt fit in the lineage section any more with all those edits