Template discussion     Getting a page is large message again might be time to move some of this into an archive    Done       Dont remove the WPBio assessment tag please       I will remove it because your tasteless photo insults me personally and in my opinion insults Jack Vance Also I strongly disagree with your grading of this article in particular and with your grading system in general Keep your project away from this page please       TO VANDALS RESTORING RACIST TAGS please cease and desist All his life Jack Vance despised racially motivated concepts of multiculturalism and political correctness He wrote books and stories revealing immoral ugliness and bigotry behind these artificial concepts His page in Wikipedia is no place for imposing ideological propaganda of this sort My actions are strictly within Wikipedia policies dont try to throw a book at me youll catch it back I have a right to remove these tags three times a day and I will do this until the end of my days which is a long long wait Deal with it not everybody shares your prejudices       If you have a problem with the standard biography template posted above take it up on the talk page of the template and do not disrupt this article with an edit war        What good is that going to do You guys administrators superactive Wikipedia addicts template inventors bored individuals etc seem hellbent on converting Wikipedia from being an encyclopedia editable and readable by anyone into some sort of esoteric crossreferenced morass of hypercomplexity Every day I come to contribute to this admittedly wellintentioned website theres some new template some new project some new policy usually arcane and for the benefit of the person who quotes it some new shortcut some funkified userbar or some such Its gone beyond a joke The KISS principle pass you guys by did it You do know what youre succeeding at with all these shortcuts templates and crossreferences dont you Youre turning people off from contributing by purposeful obfuscation       The place to argue this is on the template page or at the Village Pump not one article out of thousands which use the template Please use this page to discuss the Jack Vance article        Until you came along discussing the Jack Vance article was precisely what we were doing here Hadnt you noticed        Peter I couldnt agree with you more Computer gizmos in Wikipedia have become a plague Editors are a closeknit politically motivated group of PC types In their view personal recollections of a Gulag prisoner would be POV while sunny reports on successes of Stalinism referenced to Pravda would be OK published source Whats most chilling these guys are absolutely sure they know how to fix the world        Gizmo Is that what you are referring to          Looks like a small victory At least I dont have to pinch my nose every time I come here racist PC photo is gone Rhoads is gone Now it would be nice if those secondrate public school staffers with tons of time on their hands would remove their ugly tags altogether Play with your tags in your sandboxes boys and gorls leave this page alone       Let me ask you this if you do in fact maintain ownership of this content about Jack Vance and have such a high disregard for the goals of Wikipedia and the projects set forth to aid in achieving those goals then why do you have any interest in having it on Wikipedia at all Wouldnt it be easier to just set up your own website If you want to control the content surely an encyclopedia article with one page licensed under the GFDL thousands and thousands of editors and policies and projects out of your control isnt the ideal place         We dont own this page Renesis and neither do you Anyone may add amend refute alter etc as per Wikipedias charter What I object to and Im sure Im