Thank you for taking your time to explain it to me thats clarified it very well I think I was overthinking it having originally been perplexed by the example definitely  makes far more sense than the third bullet point I could swear I have seen the second bullet point used before  though more than likely now I misunderstood Regardless I certainly have heard of  which does indeed sound natural  I am fully convinced that there is no ambiguity in the example Its never going to be my favourite example but Im not going to change it I cant see it being productive if editors changed perfectly valid examples simply because they prefer other ones Thanks for coming up with the additional alternatives and searching for the examples too they were very helpful in convincing me