October  UTC  Well I dont think theyve been brushed aside At this point they mostly didnt even come out of the indie scene to begin with Those who do like Sigur Rs are in fact usually highly praised but well Sigur Rs has more direct alternative influences shoegaze  Also Id actually argue that the lack of ability to see a new quality in postrock music is what shows the difference of tastes between the progrock and indierock crowd and points to where postrock actually belongs  Ive certainly heard criticism of that kind aimed towards GYBE for example not even from a progrock fans but have doubt that it can be aimed towards the genre as a whole  it would be harder to dismiss Tortoise band Tarwater or the aforementioned ASMZ and Sigur Rs on a similar note  But we digress so back on topic  as I said earlier progrock fans reaction to postrock obviously deserves a mention in the article