Kirk shanahan wrote  Does it strike the rest of you as strongly as it does me as to how disconnected from reality Jed is  I sit here practically screaming at him because he doesnt listen to normal tomes that the CCS is a systematic error read procedural error     Thats what I said I think it would be fair to say that Shanahan believes the data to be an instrument artifact and not caused by actual heat     Further you have the Clarke work that shows procedural errors must be present in order to get hydrogen samples contaminated with air in SRIs attempts to measure He production  I was talking about calorimetry only I realize there are discussions of errors in other measurements and some of these other measurements are not as widely replicated or certain   Jed Rothwell Librarian LENRCANRorg