Ok Ive looked at Hanged drawn and quartered ugh and  similarly pointed me to Marco Polo and I think Im getting it now  bear with me my heads been this shape for a long time now That is I can see that one could feel a bit overwhelmed by some of the refs in Reculver as theres so much in them Thats something that Im used to and comfortable with but I suppose the point is that it could be well outside many readers comfort zones So I think Im convinced Which means that now its me thats intimidated  by the coding Ill have to learn and the scale of the task I think this is partly why I let it slide when Chzz first suggested it To be honest I think I feel a little like MF these days  though I have put a lot of effort into some articles in the past Ive wanted to back away from the friction that often arises in WP but sometimes Ill still get involved  popping up here asking for help with Reculver was spurred by an accidental urge to buff up Walkington Wold burials which came over me only in the last couple of days  and so Id like to use that to get obscure remote yet historically fascinating Reculver up to GA in case I never feel the urge again In view of which I think Ill tinker with the tentative experiment in the Reculver article in the next day or two to straighten it out and to explore what needs to be done While Im here though is there a citation template that renders a bibliography entry in a format like Bloggs J Going for GA Oxbridge  Or Bloggs J How to do it in Joseph B ed Its Like This Oxbridge  pp  I havent seen one Or would there be no need to use a citation template at all even Such is the level of my inexperience with these things Cheers