DO NOT EDIT OR POST REPLIES TO THIS PAGE THIS PAGE IS AN ARCHIVE  Post replies to the main talk page copying or summarizing the section you are replying to if necessary  First section of history  Is everyone ok with this part of the history  If so we can go ahead and move it into the article and get started on the second part  In  Tina Barber of Shiloh Shepherd Kennel in New York State began  developing a unique line of German Shepherds Her goal was to preserve the type of  dog she remembered from her childhood in Germany dogs who are good family  companions exceptionally intelligent mentally sound big and beautiful  similar to  Chuck Eisenmanns dogs from The Littlest Hobo  After years of selective breeding  and genetic research she seperated her dogs from the AKC in   In  The Shiloh Shepherd Dog Club of America SSDCA Inc was incorporated   Shilohs were originally registered dually through the FIC and AKC but after  difficulty with standards verification the SSDCA decided to open the first  Shilohonly registry The International Shiloh Shepherd Registry ISSR Due to some  documentation problems with the original ISSR registrar a special program was  designed by The Complete Computer Place TCCP to process registry data for the ISSR Since then more than  dogs have been registered with the ISSR They also  maintain a database with over  ancestors in order to properly calculate various  factors within the limited genepool  Thanks     Since there havent been any objections Ill go ahead and move this to the article so we can focus on working the second section  I also hope to be able to expand and work on some of the other sections today to get closer to the Manual of Style guidelines and start setting this article up for featured article status     This may be too late but I think the fact that the ISSR was started in  should be made clear and also that the TCCP started to maintain the records in  There are other statements in that second paragraph that dont seem quite right to me either    Not too late at all theres no time when an article is considered finished  I did notice that some dates are missing like the TCCP you mentioned  You might want to consider rewriting it and then posting it on here before making the changes to the article since that seems to be working to prevent editwars      In response to the others statement that over  of the existing ISSR breeders left in  at Tinas request I have reviewed the database and put it into a live web page that can be shared with the entire Shiloh fancy  httpwwwshilohshepherdsinfootherBreedershtm  I am also preparing other documented data pages that will clearly dispell the objections that have been raised by the other editors        Response to Concerns Posted   I apologize for the delay in reponse  The following is thanks to a collaboration by a number of contributing editors that have been participating in these continuing discussions over  weeks now  Its a long one  Every attempt was made in its construction to follow Wikietiquette provide supporting resources to our statements and be on NPOV in nature  We ask that any repliescomment concern the below be presented BELOW this posting to allow it to be viewed in its entirety without disruption or difficulty    Jareth stated Having seen this proposal I can tell you I have several serious concerns about this version   In  Ms Barber stated she could no longer afford  Jareth stated appears to be opinionmisleading please provide a reference   T Barber wrote By now it should be quite obvious that my efforts to maintain unity among the members has failed I am physically worn out mentally drained and financially busted I was very concerned that all members would still receive the type of support I had wanted to give them through newslettersat specialty shows etc etc The new club leaders have assured me that all of you will receive as muchif not more attention You should be receiving a letter from the new club along with mine that should clearly answer all of your quest