The french engines  HP were superior to those the Wright brothers claimed they built less than  HP being more powerful  The brothers used the same catapult the same extra boost as in  in all their witnessed flights performed in  In conclusion more powerful engines were logically not needed   Preceding unsigned comment added by      Correct they didnt need more powerful engines in  but were probably glad to have them However your conclusion that therefore their statements about their previous flights are their own fiction is merely your own fanciful opinion to which youre entitled but which flies in the face of more than  years of published information and yes the WB own documentary proof undisputed by all reputable historians The minute second flight you mentioned was Wilburs very first in France about a month later he flew  minutes after Orville had made hourlong flights in the US     I base all my affirmations on primary sources and not latter judgements The so called reputed historians are just pro Wright Brothers propagandists who simply selected what they liked from primary sources and made up a nice story for the public disregarding all evidence that throws serious doubts regarding the claimed  flights   Preceding unsigned comment added by      Interestingly the primary sources of which youre fond include voluminous amounts of documentation by the WB themselves of their work and their success Try some affirmation based on that Youre right though propaganda does existnot in the writings of respected historians but in misguided scribblings that sometimes show up on these pages     There is mention of the seven French engines of  here  httpgallicabnffrarkbptkmfimagerwrightlangEN They are intended to be delivered as  seven perfect copies of the model brought by the american aviator       Strange picture  On Dec   W Wright flew with the two propellers on the left side of the plane one of them not connected to the engine   The picture labeled LCW  see httpwwwlocgovpicturescollectionwriitem  from the Library of Congress shows W Wright just after he landed the plane on Dec   damaging the frontrudder the canard double wing The flight was powered but the airplane landed below the altitude where it had taken off The strange thing about this picture is that the plane see one of the large size versions of the image has both propellers on its left side the leftmost propeller being not connected to the engine There is simply no logical explanation about this oddity   There is simply no logical explanation about this oddity Indeed a perfect description of the posts above and below I recommend an optometrist    Ok It was my mistake I was mislead by the optical illusion the image contains I should have studied the photography more carefully   Preceding unsigned comment added by        The  sec flight made on Dec   was a power assisted descending flight at best    Another pi