Moving others comments    posted some replies in the middle of my comment at  I would like to keep my comment in one piece but I am not sure how strictly moving comments of other users us handled on these pages If it is not allowed for nonclerks could you please move his comments to a separate section Thx    Done Posting in the middle of peoples comments as UserHistoricWarrior did is certainly undesirable and something to be avoided wherever possible      Quoting emails  Increasingly some parties are quoting emails from the leaked archive ex  I thought that this was not to be done No quoting of any email is to be done by persons other than the author or intended recipients Am I mistaken   I believe the intention of the provision you have quoted is to prevent widescale quoting of entire emails and entire email exchanges that is the assumption I will work off when taking affirmative action as opposed to reactive action such as this although I invite you to have the Committee comment on my interpretation of it Regardless Ill ask Offliner to paraphrase what you wrote on the mailing list although having him do this could be to your disadvantage as it provides him the opportunity to represent what you said on the mailing list in whatever way and with whatever language he chooses    Daniel I dont mind you removing my entire section at your discretion for as long as you read it by going back to my post and relating to the particulars listed in it However theres nothing in the initial provisions of this case indicating that youre supposed to prevent only widescale quoting of entire emails and email exchanges  That is your own interpretation of the warning which needs to be confirmed by the Committee Meanwhile quoting of illegally accessed emails includes also explaining in ones own words whats in those emails which in a way is even worse because paraphrasing other people is obviously tainted by personal agendas Cheers    Quoting outofcontext and possibly doctored emails is creating IMHO more problems than paraphrasing as it gives an air of legitimacy to this harassment campaign PS Offliner is not the ony party quoting s Russavia is doing that as well   edit conflict Im charged as the Clerk of the case to interpret the directives I receive Until such a time as I am explicitly overruled by the Committee how I interpret those directives is how the case will be run I have interpreted the directives and disallowing the quoting of the contents of emails allowing the subjects of emails and allowing the paraphrasing of content of emails where said paraphrasing If youre concerned about misparaphrasing the other alternative is to give permission to be quoted otherwise your emails can and will be paraphrased within reason If you believe a paraphrase is misleading you are free to address it in your own evidence section These are the rules for the case    And in response to Piotrus either allow yourself to be quoted explicitly or refute the paraphrasing in your evidence section or else appeal my decision to the Committee by email to arbcomllistswikimediaorg I will be happy to have my interpretation which is binding on the case absent a contrary directive from the Committee see above overruled by them should they agree with your contentions    edit conflict again Russavia is fixing the quotes see my comment at the bottom of his talk page    I am now confused if we agree or not I am against quoting of private communications publicly and without permission and for paraphrasing   I know Im saying that paraphrasing is allowed regardless of whether youre against it or not If you disagree with my interpretation of the directive that paraphrasing and summarising is allowed then I provided alternatives including allowing your emails to be quoted refuting bad summaries in your own evidence section or appealing my interpretation to the Committee by emailing their mailing list    Then we agree  Yes paraphrasing is allowed per freedom of speech and such Thank you for offering the other options I think none will be needed   Oh I see Crap my apologies I misread the first word of your  comment as paraphrasing not quoting Yes so we do agree  I blame the hour which is somewhere around  and my friends who still havent called to get picked up hence why Im still here      Please remember that an offer to paraphrase these emails one by one in a continuous string was already made out of the blue by user Novickas However all users have also been advised to limit themselves to the onwiki evidence of possible misconduct with the assumption that such restrictions given the private nature of most of the likely evidence would cut down on the size of the evidence page The size of that page nonetheless is growing quickly and so theres no need for nonearbitrators to boust about being in possession of an unethically obtained archive and dwell on its content which is not publicly accessible for the thirdparty confirmation    The people whose conduct is being discussed in relation to the emails have access to them and so they have the ability to respond In my opinion paraphrasing is acceptable and until I receive explicit instruction from the Committee otherwise thats the way the case will be run    Fair enough As I understand some of the list participants deleted these emails and in spite of their repeated requests they have not been given access to the illegal copy However trying to correct the illadvised interpretations of their own words would be useless  one way or another  given the aggressive language of all stacked up accusations You do what you think is best      Thank You   For helping me out with the formatting responses in Eastern European WikiCabal Arbitration Formatting is a pain in the ass for me so thats for showing me how to do it right D      Hiberniantears post   He posted his evidence in the wrong section    Im assuming this has been fixed as I cant see it     Request Dear Daniel  I completed my Evidence secti