I know that my suggestion was clunky and too long and I can see the point of not having controversy in there  But the difference Id like to retain is that if we say Yet some atheists hold  we are correctly implying that people other than some atheists do not hold that position  That point is lost when you state the position and then say that even some atheists disagree  In the latter you only get the sense that some atheists disagree and not that everyone else does as well  Does that make sense