I wish I had never read Kelly Martins bloody evidence  I was furious when I read what she had written and that clerks had allowed such a post to remain for so long  Why on earth was it there if it was not to respond to   You write Fred a decent end to the matter there is nothing decent about this case at all  It was a pointless ill conceived case that should never have been brought and I do wonder why exactly it was brought If it did not have my name slap bang at the top of it I would have lost interest in weeks ago  You are full aware you could detail a number of infractions concerning Kelly but you want a decent end  would then desysoping Geogre have been a decent end  If it was meant to clear the air it has failed miserably  There are now more unanswered questions and discontent than there ever was before  My own view is that possibly the whole business should be abandoned every shred of evidence and word written about it deleted beyond restore in the hope that mass amnesia may occur but that is not going to happen  So we must wade our miserable way through it until those who thought their machinations on IRC were more important than what occurs on Wikipedia accept they were wrong or people die of old age  I suspect the latter will be the sooner However we have started so we must finish it seems  I read somewhere on WPANI someone saying what they tell their children in these matter well I tell my boys if someone punches you you punch them right back  And while people keep saying Giano should be quiet he was wrong to respond others still keep throwing the punches where will it end I dont know but I do doubt it will be decent end