On your poorly researched it should have taken you an hour or two to read through the raw data on Underwood response   Youre talking to the wrong guy Not only did I not start any editwars I didnt initiate any personal attacks either I used the talk page the way it is supposed to be utilized to initiate discussion on the subject of an influential person to the Church of the SubGenius Someone who at bare minimum is a church injoke and at maximum had a chilling effect on a number of the members I suppose you are off to edit DooM out of the article on the Columbine Killings as it was released several years before the killings happened and there is no direct causal relationship between it and the killings only people who claim there is a causal link Kevin Underwood affected the church Nearly every member of note has an opinion on the booger and all you have to do is mention Underwood on the talk page to get swarmed by Church member caretakers and hack attacks a variety of these have taken place in the last few days while discussing editing the article from blocking of the page entirely to abnormal  minutes or more page load times to apparent deletion of talk points after loading the page What you have here is a page zealously defended by a bunch of nuts who are so zealous about their complete disassociation from Underwood despite comments by Church cocreator Ivan Stang regarding him AND conversations with him that the protestations are evidence themselves of his effect on the Church That said notice I havent made any edits on the article Just responded on the talk page to your unjust accusations Far politer than was deserved