very short event of days compared to Clintons nearly  years of life  Vote  Do not shorten for the sake of shortening   I think the Very Long tag may date back to before when material was split off into subarticles  The article is still kind of long even after that but manageable I think  However imagine what will happen if she gets elected President  All that has come before will be dwarfed by the new material to come   Regarding the CV section that you  have been trying to get in it doesnt do much good buried late in the article  If we are going to add something like that it should go into the infobox at the start of the article  Then it could have a standard prominent presentation for all politicians  But youd have to campaign with the infobox maintainers to get this accepted      I was orginally very confused about her background because it takes work to figure out when she was practicing law and if it overlapped with being First Lady  A short list of jobs is useful  Whats there to hide  She was never in prison  She worked for a prestigous law firm   Her practicing law did overlap with being First Lady of Arkansas but not with being First Lady of the United States      Really being wikipedia NPOV we need to treat people fairly not have a double standard The opening paragraph has been very slightly modified to match that of Christopher Dodd another Democratic presidential contender  We should treat them fairly and the same  We still give Senator Clinton the honor of mentioning that shes first lady and has several first  I dont see how you can be against it unless you arent fair  If this isnt the case and you want to change it explain why inconsistency is fair   Why are you picking only Dodd  Look at Barack Obama John Edwards John Kerry  Ive looked at  to  of all the Senator articles and all the  presidential candidate articles and there is absolutely no consistency among them in their intros  But let me ask you this what is your objection to the current intro      Dodd is from CT that borders NY  First we make consistency between Dodd and Clinton then well worry about the others  I cant see how you can be for inconsistency  It just isnt fair  And fairness and NPOV is what wikipedia is all about  Whats so bad with Dodds intro  It isnt negative or inaccurate   Inconsistency of arrangement of neutral and unquestioned biographical details in an intro is not a matter of fairness or NPOV  its just plain old inconsistency  so your argument is a red herring  Your chance of getting all these articles to have consistent intros is zero take my word for it  Your revised intro to this article wasnt as good as the existing one because it was a bit redundant and had faulty wikilinking  Again what is your agenda here  What do you think is wrong with what we have        For one thing Dodd is called a politician which he is  Hillarys occupation as politician is missing  Someone is really a politician when they run for more than one office  Jesse Ventura is difficult to call a politician cuz he just ran for one office then went back into wrestling or related jobs   You are wrong about Ventura  He was a mayor before he was governor and he was also involved in the shaping of thirdparty political organizations  So he is a politician just as much as HRC or anyone else  For the most part however I think it is redundant to say someone is a politician when you say they are a senator and running for president  obviously they are politicians  I just sampled a bunch of articles and maybe  use politician in the intro  Being Wikipedia its very inconsistent  while Ventura who has had many other jobs gets the label Charles Schumer whos never had any other job does not  Trying to find consistency in Wikipedia will drive you insane believe me and battles over intros are always more trouble than they are worth  There are better things to do in Wikipedia  The article on the Clinton health care plan for example needs much expansion and citing it was a major major issue at the time with a longlasting effect on Hillarys career and its bound to get renewed attention during the camp