November  UTC   You are really trying to force a meaning into the C that is simply not there   Theis is the heart of the problem who forced a meaning into the Second Commandment   I or the falsifier rabbis  Do you mean that you blinly believe and quote an obviously falsified texts just because they are Orthodox interpretations In other words are you totally castrated including guts or simply circumcised  I repeat my great source is the mere text of the Second Commandment and I say that the no WIKI rule shoiuld require a better source so that any wikipedist may take the Second Commandment as specific reference especially if this wikipedist chooses the Orhodox rabbis translation Paris Editions Colbo French Rabbinate Sigismond