wikipedia isnt perfect but its model is sound FOR JIMMY WALES COFOUNDER   Can I suggest that you two guys read Professor John Naughtons excellent article in THE OBSERVER of  If it helps you understand it I can get it translated into Belgian French or Walloon and into Dutch I use both Wikipedia and ODNB and boths editors are equally intransigent unwilling or refusing to change ones views or to agree about somethingsynonyms uncompromising inflexible unbending unyielding diehard unshakable unwavering resolute rigid unaccommodating uncooperative stubborn obstinate obdurate pigheaded singleminded ironwilled stiffnecked intransigeant onverzettelijk in frenchdutch  I CAN DEBATE THE SHORTCOMINGS OF WIKIPEDIA UNTIL AS WE SAY IN COLLOQUIAL ENGLISH THE COWS COME HOME BUT THERE IS NO COMPLETE AGREEMENT ANYWHERE IN THE ACADEMIC WORLD AS TO WHO EXACTLY CONSTITUTED THE BLOOMSBURY GROUP SO ALL THE MEMBERS ARE A MATTER OF OPINION AND NOT FACT GUYS  WHAT IS CERTAIN IS THAT A SIGNIFICANT PROPORTION OF MALE MEMBERS WERE CAMBRIDGE APOSTLES  Understand the above points and we may have the basis for further discussion Otherwise