November  UTC   Note   Marcus youre a useful and productive contributor But you have to be more careful with what you say to people  A good way to judge whether X counts as a personal attack is to consider how you would react if X had been said to you rather than by you Also realize that personal attack like insult is as much in the mind of the listener as in the mind of the speaker You may not have intended X to be a personal attack but X can certainly be perceived as one just the same No one will count coup on you if you apologize  I realize that it can be very frustrating to bear the brunt of disciplinary measures but if wetheadministrators do not impose some form of order the project as a whole risks degenerating into even more of an anarchy than it already is  Take the time to relax and when your block expires youre welcome to resume editing Okay     I understand what youre saying but this is not a disciplinary measure it is further offence as an admin not only attacks my WQA response but then conceals their attack by turning my behaviour into hyperbole to reduce their guilty I dont apologise to people with such motives or who serve protect themselves The project only risks degenerating when sysop is left in the hands of people who abuse it I maintain that the block is a front a pretext If reviewing admins are failing to take time to determine that and recognise the integrity of my claim instead of taking Frams for granted which is contrary to were all equals on wiki then I will have no choice but to raise the matter elsewhere such as RfC or ArbCom This isnt about discipline at my age I dont consider you cant login as anything like you suggest because its not like losing wages Its the principle of the matter My contribs to WQA were meticulously used as spin against me instead of the AGF everyone else saw them as I dont intend to let Fram sit on a high horse any longer Either they apologise first and withdraw their false assertions or theyll have to explain them to RfC or ArbCom Which Im sure is much more complex and time consuming and stressful than admitting to any wrongdoing but so be it I stand for what I believe in and always have I wont be bullied by someone like that So really the ball is in their court If no one is counting coup that applies to the admin who attacked me in an undignified manner and continues to do so by maintaining their position  though now shielding themselves behind a wall of admins instead of facing up to the fact they erred COI is clearly affecting their actions or unwillingness to show face They can either optin and admit they were wrong for their attack or wait until a higher channel one that even exceeds their stance asks why they attacked my contribs and synthesised a despicable bad faith conclusion The consequences this dispute have yet to be determined    RFF