March  UTC   It appears Ron that you are frustratingly reading my paragraph above as if that is what I want to put in the article when what I want to put in the article is posted on my talk page in one place so that it can be seen without continually being pushed up by discussion My comment above is only explanation  Sigh Here again is what I want to put in the article Its on my talk page Sigh   Not to be confused with shoto meaning short sword confusion about the derivation of Shotokan may occur otherwise The Kanji for shoto pine waves is  The first character is  which means pine tree The second character  is a kanji variant of  which means large wave The Kanji for shoto short sword is  The first character is  meaning small and the second character is  meaning blade Any literate Japanese reader who saw  would not mistake it  You say that you do not agree with this but you cannot seem to explain what is wrong with it It would make no claim whatsoever when posted in the article to any reasonable person that the short sword story is being told out there even though it is I just dont have it in a book for you so Im not trying to claim it on Wikipedia It can be looked at as preemptively preventing confusion  For someone who says he wants to work together you are laying down a lot of conditions I think it is reasonable to say at least   Not to be confused with shoto meaning short sword The Kanji for shoto pine waves is  The first character is  which means pine tree The second character  is a kanji variant of  which means large wave The Kanji for shoto short sword is  The first character is  meaning small and the second character is  meaning blade Any literate Japanese reader who saw  would not mistake it  I think its reasonable of me to dispute not showing the Kanji and its reasonable of me to dispute not having that first sentence that basically says Note that this use of shotodoes not mean short sword If you want to put in that sentence rather than Not to be confused with that would be fine with me