Whats your point  Is this your roundabout way of saying that you think Varoon Arya and I are a pair of these clueless uninformed types that youre talking about and that if we knew more about the topics in question we would agree with you about them but you dont want to say this directly because you were just reported for making personal attacks  I think you would be surprised how knowledgeable its possible to be about a topic while still disagreeing not only with other people who are equally knowledgeable about it but in some cases also disagreeing with reality itself  I see this fairly often while debating with creationists but for a more recent example that weve both had the chance to observe consider Aluns comments on the Race and genetics discussion page before he stopped participating there  Hes clearly knowledgeable about genetics and so one would expect that his opinions would be consistent with the research on this area right  Except that the viewpoint he kept expounding therethat there was no meaningful correlation between social concepts of race and genetic clusters based on biogeographical ancestryis directly contradicted by studies such as this one which found a  correlation between the two  And the reason for this discrepancy is that knowledge about any topic isnt the same thing as lack of bias  I find it pretty arrogant of you to think that the only reason anyone would disagree with you is because they know less than you do and that this is whats caused you to get in trouble here in the past  Apart from what I mentioned about how knowledgeable people can still disagree you seem to also think Im not already familiar with the reason why you were banned last year  Do you expect me to believe that your superior knowledge about genetics is a sufficient explanation for your extensive usage of sockpuppet accounts