Jack Forbes  you have already gone a step too far here really Yesterday you went to two admins about me What on earth do you think Bardcom can tell you that they cannot Or are you just stirring things up here as you have seen I am in a disagreement with him I hope you are not building something up here One admin has already said that we have both been uncivil to each other  which is true Please look over your own comments on my Talk page and before  I think you are so offended by me that you are not properly considering yourself here you have been no wallflower either If you want to file a civility report please ask an admin for help I cant point you as ve never done it  if you try to involve people I am curently in a disagreement with like Bardcom it will surely stand against you though Think about in terms of Wikipedias broader policies  and call that friendly advice for a relatively new user Another thing too  it probably took me about  months before I was fully appreciative of the scope of Wikipedias guidelines and policy and I never ignored it either Without sounding patronising  maybe you should spend some more time brushing up