Michael with all due respect its over It may be that you can do math better than me but its not the math thats the problem its statements like I dont know a whole lot about this case but I tend to think that race may well be relevant here and My first instinct is it likely should be included as the news accounts likely included the information But did they or was this simply not an issue I assume you are counting those as in favour of inclusionreally one cant They are not unequivocal inclusion votes and raise more questions than they answer Moreover I assume youre including comments like I agree that race should be included as long as it does not violate WPUNDUE Thats finebut this participant did not address how the inclusion does not violate UNDUE and since this as John points out is not a vote such a statement cant have the full weight as is carried by the more complete answers of John and Beyond My Ken