What about the great Larry Bird He was a point forward himself    Damn fellas Paul Pressey came to the NBA after John Johnsson retired from it    I dont know about the inclusion of Antoine and Dunleavy Jr as Point Forwards I think theyre pretty much just plain old Forwards these days    How come Magic Johnson is not included in this page He was   and played point guard   Opinions in this article   Ive reduced this article to a stub because it was full of uncited personal opinions  Please do not add a list of players whom you consider to be the greatest player ever In its previous state this article named no fewer than  players as the greatest Everyone and their mother has a different opinion as to who the greatest player in baskeball history is If everyone got to add their favorite to the article it would be unmanageable Please cite reliable references such as books newspapers or reputable magazines when making additions to this article Unreferenced opinions have no place in Wikipedia and will be purged Thanks    grant hill  Preceding unsigned comment added by      Magic is the best example of a PointForward  Hes the guy on the floor that could play all positions and still run the offense  LeBron James Grant Hill Lamar Odom Antoine Walker are all guys in the league that are point forwards  Shawn Marion and Dirk Nowitzki could also be considered pointforwards  Kevin Durant and Brandon Roy could develop into pointforwards  It could be argued Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan had some pointforward skill both of them running their teams during crunch time although Jordan will be remembered as the ultimate swingman which he clearly was than as a pointforward which he was when he began his career and later became again with the Wizards  Magic gave us showtime though he made the position what it is  Preceding unsigned comment added by      Dirk Nowitzki and Shawn Marion point forwards Thats just incorrect Anthony Mason was a great passing power forward not a point forward  Preceding unsigned comment added by      WHAT ABOUT POINT CENTER  I would like to see some information about the Point center position Certain centers have the offense go through them similar to point forwards  Preceding unsigned comment added by      Define having the offense go through them for point centersthere are some great passing centers who the offense moves through Shaq Bogut Duncan but I cant think of any center who regularly brings the ball up and runs the perimeter game which is the essence of a point Also Magic should NOT be listed as a point forward  He is a big point guard and played as a big point guard and guarded other point guards    The Showtime Lakers has Michael Cooper James Worthy and Byron Scott starting at shooting guard and small forward putting Magic at point guard  Most other point forwards particularly Pippen and anyone who would qualify in todays game still have actual point guards on the floor with them though the ball handling is reduced and theyre often combo guardsthink Ron Harper Boobie Gibson Delonte West  So Magic is still a PG despite his height and not a point forward  Preceding unsigned comment added by      Hidayet Trkolu played as point guard at  playoffs He stands  ft  in  m tall and plays in the small forward posit