MrRobP I think this conversation honestly just boils down to a matter of opinion I like Burtons Batmans too but i felt he changed so much as well to fit his gothic style Just like Nolan changes a lot to fit his realism edge I dont want ultra realism for all comic books i just feel it really works for Batman Plus i like more mature movies and the darkness in this series really makes me believe that these people can exist out there When i saw TDK an aspect that made it so mezmerizing and great for me was that i can truly believe that a man like Ledgers Joker is out there somewhere idk but it made the experience of that film so visceral But that approach wouldnt work for Spiderman orxa Avengers or basicallly all other superhero movies Nolans Batman gives the audience something no other superhero movie can give One that can honestly happen and that makes it more fantastical in my opinion