I have discussed it unlike most of those who revert me Heonsi is a pure sockpuppet Caden and Central Data Bank havent discussed at all I think any unbiased party reading the talk page will see that Rjensen and R have been thoroughly refuted and now resort only to the classic pattern of merely repeating their longcountered points as if they were new eg trotting out and even further adding to their meaningless sources for what is inherently an opinion