Rhobite I think the word great may be confusing you  Sure whats great for me isnt necessarilly great for you but when something is great for the many the qualification becomes objective  Hellmuth is regularly the chosen televised table and was invited to this years tournament of champions event despite not qualifying solely for his television appeal  He currently has logged more minutes on ESPN than any other player  Im sorry if you dont know this subject well enough to understand it but Hellmuth is univerally known and agreed to produce great television  If I watched Michael Jordan play basketball and thought he was bad it would not change the fact that he could be objectively described as a great basketball player  Please stick to material that you understand well enough to be able to determine what is subjective and what is not  I see in your profile that you are interested in photography Im sure there are plenty of photography related sections that you could do better work with