Fool   Why are you not willing to debate that fact at Hardcore Punk  Motorhead at a Minimum is NWOBHM WHERE DO YOU THINK THE HEAVY CAME FROM  Thin air  HARD ROCK and EARLY METAL Combined with Punk Rock is Hardcore Not totally in  but from  With Battalion Of Saints at a Minimum Up Til NOW So all of a sudden that page shows up no other editing more or less except HC Did either of you even have a career in HC  Do you think you own the page  Is That Your Sock Puppet Its going to be investigated  Glad you got involved Duh What does this mean to You it took the previous punk sound and added the incessant heavy drumbeats and distorted guitar sound of New Wave of British Heavy Metal bands especially Motrhead That is On the actual page  So basically you dont care if its wrong hardcore didnt just happen out of thin air Its a HYBRID  talk