JACK OFF DUMMAY   stop lying to yourself wikipedia has always been and always will be a WARZONE a war between vandals antivandal wikipedians and edit warmen with REAL wikipedians as overseers  if you keep insisting that it is not then i have to sincerely ask you to  JACK OFF DUMMAY  also dont mess with my talk page i have been unjustly put in jail for a warcrime i didnt commit and the last thing i want is the record of it hanging around as proof