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+[House Hearing, 109 Congress]
+[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
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+  FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE HEAD START EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAM
+
+=======================================================================
+
+                                HEARING
+
+                               before the
+
+                         COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
+                           AND THE WORKFORCE
+                     U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
+
+                       ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS
+
+                             FIRST SESSION
+
+                               __________
+
+                             April 5, 2005
+
+                               __________
+
+                            Serial No. 109-6
+
+                               __________
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+                COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND THE WORKFORCE
+
+                    JOHN A. BOEHNER, Ohio, Chairman
+
+Thomas E. Petri, Wisconsin, Vice     George Miller, California
+    Chairman                         Dale E. Kildee, Michigan
+Howard P. ``Buck'' McKeon,           Major R. Owens, New York
+    California                       Donald M. Payne, New Jersey
+Michael N. Castle, Delaware          Robert E. Andrews, New Jersey
+Sam Johnson, Texas                   Robert C. Scott, Virginia
+Mark E. Souder, Indiana              Lynn C. Woolsey, California
+Charlie Norwood, Georgia             Ruben Hinojosa, Texas
+Vernon J. Ehlers, Michigan           Carolyn McCarthy, New York
+Judy Biggert, Illinois               John F. Tierney, Massachusetts
+Todd Russell Platts, Pennsylvania    Ron Kind, Wisconsin
+Patrick J. Tiberi, Ohio              Dennis J. Kucinich, Ohio
+Ric Keller, Florida                  David Wu, Oregon
+Tom Osborne, Nebraska                Rush D. Holt, New Jersey
+Joe Wilson, South Carolina           Susan A. Davis, California
+Jon C. Porter, Nevada                Betty McCollum, Minnesota
+John Kline, Minnesota                Danny K. Davis, Illinois
+Marilyn N. Musgrave, Colorado        Raul M. Grijalva, Arizona
+Bob Inglis, South Carolina           Chris Van Hollen, Maryland
+Cathy McMorris, Washington           Tim Ryan, Ohio
+Kenny Marchant, Texas                Timothy H. Bishop, New York
+Tom Price, Georgia                   John Barrow, Georgia
+Luis G. Fortuno, Puerto Rico
+Bobby Jindal, Louisiana
+Charles W. Boustany, Jr., Louisiana
+Virginia Foxx, North Carolina
+Thelma D. Drake, Virginia
+John R. ``Randy'' Kuhl, Jr., New 
+    York
+
+                    Paula Nowakowski, Staff Director
+                 John Lawrence, Minority Staff Director
+
+                                 ------                                
+
+                            C O N T E N T S
+
+                              ----------                              
+                                                                   Page
+
+Hearing held on April 5, 2005....................................     1
+
+Statement of Members:
+    Boehner, Hon. John A., Chairman, Committee on Education and 
+      the Workforce..............................................     2
+        Prepared statement of....................................     4
+    Castle, Hon. Michael N., a Representative in Congress from 
+      the State of Delaware......................................     7
+        Prepared statement of....................................     8
+    Miller, Hon. George, Ranking Member, Committee on Education 
+      and the Workforce..........................................     6
+    Woolsey, Hon. Lynn C., a Representative in Congress from the 
+      State of California........................................     9
+
+Statement of Witnesses:
+    Golden, Olivia, Ph.D., Senior Fellow, Urban Institute, 
+      Washington, DC.............................................    30
+        Prepared statement of....................................    32
+    Henry, Pamela, Jr., Head Start Parent, Las Vegas, NV.........    27
+        Prepared statement of....................................    29
+    Horn, Hon. Wade F., Assistant Secretary, Administration for 
+      Children and Families, U.S. Department of Health and Human 
+      Services, Washington, DC...................................    21
+        Prepared statement of....................................    22
+    Shaul, Marnie S., Ph.D., Director, Education Issues, 
+      Education, Workforce and Income Security, U.S. Government 
+      Accountability Office......................................    11
+        Prepared statement of....................................    13
+
+
+ 
+   FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE HEAD START EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAM
+
+                              ----------                              
+
+
+                         Tuesday, April 5, 2005
+
+                     U.S. House of Representatives
+
+                Committee on Education and the Workforce
+
+                             Washington, DC
+
+                              ----------                              
+
+    The Committee met, pursuant to call, at 2 p.m., in room 
+2175, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. John A. Boehner 
+(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
+    Present: Representatives Boehner, McKeon, Castle, Osborne, 
+Kline, McMorris, Price, Fortuno, Foxx, Drake, Miller, Kildee, 
+Woolsey, Hinojosa, Tierney, Wu, Holt, McCollum, Grijalva, and 
+Van Hollen.
+    Staff Present: Amanda Farris, Professional Staff Member; 
+Kevin Frank, Professional Staff Member; Kate Houston, 
+Professional Staff Member; Alexa Marrero, Press Secretary; 
+Jennifer Daniels, Communications Staff Assistant; Jessica 
+Gross, Legislative Assistant; Lucy House, Legislative 
+Assistant; Deborah L. Samantar, Committee Clerk/Intern 
+Coordinator; Mark Zuckerman, Minority General Counsel; Ruth 
+Friedman, Minority Legislative Associate/Education; Lloyd 
+Horwich, Minority Legislative Associate/Education; Ricardo 
+Martinez, Minority Legislative Associate/Education; Alex Nock, 
+Minority Legislative Associate/Education; Joe Novotny, Minority 
+Legislative Associate/Education; and Tom Kiley, Press 
+Secretary.
+    Chairman Boehner. A quorum being present, the Committee on 
+Education and the Workforce will come to order. We are holding 
+this hearing today to hear testimony on the financial 
+accountability in the Head Start Early Childhood program. I am 
+going to limit opening statements to the Chairman and Ranking 
+Member. Therefore, if other Members have opening statements, 
+they can be included in the hearing record.
+    And with that, I would ask unanimous consent for the 
+hearing record to remain open for 14 days to allow Members' 
+statements and other documents referenced during the hearing to 
+be submitted for the official hearing record. Without 
+objection, so ordered. Let me change my unanimous consent 
+request to also include Mr. Castle and Ms. Woolsey's opening 
+statements. Without objection, so ordered.
+
+   STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN A. BOEHNER, CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON 
+                  EDUCATION AND THE WORKFORCE
+
+    High quality early childhood education is essential to 
+closing the achievement gap that exists in our country between 
+disadvantaged children and their more affluent peers. President 
+Bush urged Americans to unite to eliminate this gap when he 
+took office in 2001. Congress has responded by enacting two 
+major overhauls of education law, the No Child Left Behind Act 
+and the special education bill signed by the President just 
+last December. Today, our Committee embarks on another phase of 
+this process, strengthening the Head Start early childhood 
+program. Head Start's mission is to prepare disadvantaged 
+children for kindergarten, and this Committee has strongly 
+supported Head Start in this mission over the years and 
+particularly during the last decade. Federal funding for Head 
+Start has nearly doubled since 1995, increasing from 3.6 
+billion annually in 1996 to nearly 7 billion this year.
+    I support Head Start. It is an important program that is 
+entrusted with a vitally important mission and I believe that a 
+vast majority of those involved with the Head Start program are 
+honest individuals who are dedicated to making sure the poorest 
+of our Nation's children have a chance to succeed in life. I 
+believe we need to listen to these people and support them and 
+support the children that they serve. And I know Chairman 
+Castle agrees, I believe the President agrees, and I don't 
+think there is a single Member of this Committee who would 
+disagree with that.
+    I also want to state that neither I nor the President nor 
+Chairman Castle have called for turning Head Start into a so-
+called block grant to the States or dismantling Head Start as 
+some have claimed. As I said 2 years ago, as a conservative 
+Republican, I know a block grant when I see one. And trust me, 
+what the President has proposed for Head Start is no block 
+grant program. There are, however, two critical problems in 
+Head Start that I believe Congress has to address. One problem 
+is the school readiness gap that continues to exist between 
+some Head Start children and their peers when they reach 
+kindergarten. There is no question most Head Start children are 
+better off in the program than they would have been without it. 
+That is not in dispute.
+    But there is evidence that some Head Start centers could be 
+doing an even better job of providing preschoolers with an 
+academic foundation they need in order to succeed in school. A 
+summary of research released in 2003 by the Department of 
+Health and Human Services showed that while children in Head 
+Start are learning, they are more than 25 percentile points 
+behind the national average on many key learning indicators. 
+And we need to listen to people who run the best programs in 
+the Head Start system, get their input on what works and use 
+that information to strengthen the weaker program. Last week 
+our Committee launched a Web site to facilitate this project, 
+and I would encourage parents, teachers, taxpayers and anyone 
+else who has an interest in Head Start to check out this Web 
+site and use it to share your own experiences.
+    The second problem is that an unacceptable share of Federal 
+Head Start funding never reaches the disadvantaged children the 
+money is meant to serve. Instead, it is being lost to financial 
+abuse and mismanagement, impropriety or outright theft within 
+the Head Start system. And these abuses are happening at the 
+expense of children served by the many law abiding grantees 
+within the Head Start system, grantees that too often are put 
+in a position of being forced to defend the actions of a few 
+bad apples in the program.
+    Between January of 2003 and the first months of 2005, media 
+accounts in numerous U.S. cities alleged serious financial 
+abuses and irregularities by those entrusted with the 
+responsibility of managing Head Start funds meant to serve poor 
+children. These incidents identified in these reports 
+collectively involve the use of tens of millions of Federal 
+Head Start funds that were intended to serve more than 10,000 
+disadvantaged U.S. children. Such reports surfaced in 
+Baltimore, Maryland; Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Charleston, South 
+Carolina; Charleston, West Virginia; Cleveland, Ohio; Columbus, 
+Ohio; Honolulu, Hawaii; Jamestown, North Dakota; Kansas City, 
+Missouri; Las Vegas, Nevada, Little Rock, Arkansas; Lubbock, 
+Texas; Madison, Wisconsin; Norwalk, Connecticut; Rapid City, 
+South Dakota; San Antonio, Texas; and Stockton, California.
+    And some reports involving financial mismanagement suggest 
+that many Head Start grantees have good intentions yet lack 
+strong financial controls and the skills needed to effectively 
+manage complex multi million dollar not-for-profit 
+organizations.
+    As much as we all support Head Start, Congress cannot 
+simply turn a blind eye to this problem. Financial abuse in the 
+Head Start system cheats not only children and taxpayers, but 
+also the many law abiding local Head Start grantees nationwide 
+who find themselves in the position of being asked to defend 
+indefensible practices by other grantees.
+    A new report by the independent Government Accountability 
+Office warns, the financial control system in the Federal Head 
+Start Early Childhood program is flawed and failing to prevent 
+these abuses. GAO has independently determined that unresolved 
+financial management weaknesses among Head Start grantees are 
+having a negative effect on some eligible children. It has also 
+determined that the procedures of the Federal Government uses 
+to collect data on grantee financial management performance 
+have significant flaws as well. The GAO report recommends that 
+the Federal Government take steps to allow the recompetition of 
+grants awarded to Head Start grantees.
+    And I am particularly interested in hearing from our 
+witnesses today on this important issue. It is my view that by 
+failing to promote competition for Head Start grants, the 
+Federal Government has essentially granted monopoly power to 
+some Head Start operators and, as often happens with 
+monopolies, the power has been abused. Removing obstacles for 
+competition of Head Start grants must be a top priority for 
+Congress in reauthorizing Head Start, and if we fail to 
+accomplish this goal, we will fail on our most basic 
+responsibility to children and taxpayers.
+    Also, some States are operating their own early childhood 
+programs, programs that sometimes rival Head Start in quality. 
+And I do think we need to help such States better integrate and 
+coordinate these programs with Head Start to better serve the 
+needs of our most disadvantaged children. When Head Start was 
+first established 40 years ago, it was the only program of its 
+kind, Federal or State. Now, there are many different programs 
+across the country preparing children for kindergarten, and we 
+need to make sure all of those children are getting the same 
+quality education.
+    In the last Congress, this Committee passed a bill that 
+sought to address this need. But we know many things today that 
+we didn't know then, particularly with respect to the financial 
+control problems that exist in the program. And with this in 
+mind, I think we have a responsibility to start from square one 
+and build this year's legislation from the ground up. There 
+were many elements of the 2003 bill that had bipartisan 
+support. Those things may provide a good foundation. And in 
+those areas where there was disagreement, I am more than 
+willing to look at alternative routes that can be taken to 
+reach the same goal if we can show that they may be effective. 
+That includes the issue of coordination with State programs 
+which generated the most disagreement 2 years ago.
+    I am committed to passing the bill that promotes 
+competition, strengthens academics, and restores fairness for 
+children taxpayers and honest grantees. And I think we can 
+produce a bill that does these things and does it in a 
+bipartisan fashion. As the Head Start reauthorization process 
+moves forward, this will be my goal.
+    [The prepared statement of Chairman Boehner follows:]
+
+Statement of Hon. John A. Boehner, Chairman, Committee on Education and 
+                             the Workforce
+
+    High quality early childhood education is essential to closing the 
+achievement gap that exists in our country between disadvantaged 
+children and their more affluent peers. President Bush urged Americans 
+to unite to eliminate this gap when he took office in 2001. Congress 
+has responded by enacting two major overhauls of education law-the No 
+Child Left Behind Act, and the special education bill signed by the 
+President last December. Today our Committee embarks on another phase 
+of this process: strengthening the Head Start early childhood program.
+    Head Start's mission is to prepare disadvantaged children for 
+kindergarten. This Committee has strongly supported Head Start in this 
+mission over the years, particularly during the past decade. Federal 
+funding for Head Start has nearly doubled since Republicans assumed 
+control of the House in 1995, increasing from $3.6 billion annually in 
+fiscal year 1996 to nearly $7 billion this year.
+    I support Head Start. It's an important program that is entrusted 
+with a vitally important mission. I believe the vast majority of those 
+involved with Head Start are honest individuals who are dedicated to 
+making sure the poorest of our nation's children have a chance to 
+succeed in life. I believe we need to listen to these people, and 
+support them, and support the children they serve. I know Chairman 
+Castle agrees. I think the President agrees. And I don't think there's 
+a single member of this Committee who disagrees.
+    I also want to state that neither I, nor President Bush, nor 
+Chairman Castle, have called for turning Head Start into a so-called 
+``block grant'' to the states or ``dismantling'' Head Start. As I said 
+two years ago-as a conservative Republican, I know a block grant when I 
+see one. And trust me-what President Bush has proposed for Head Start 
+is no block grant.
+    There are, however, two critical problems in Head Start that I 
+believe Congress has to address.
+    One problem is the school readiness gap that continues to exist 
+between some Head Start children and their peers when they reach 
+kindergarten. There's no question most Head Start children are better 
+off in the program than they would have been without it; that is not in 
+dispute. But there's evidence some Head Start centers could be doing an 
+even better job of providing preschoolers with the academic foundation 
+they need to succeed in school. A summary of research released in June 
+2003 by the Department of Health and Human Services showed that while 
+children in Head Start are learning, they are still more than 25 
+percentile points behind the national average on key learning 
+indicators. We need to listen to the people who run the best programs 
+in the Head Start system, get their input on what works, and use that 
+information to strengthen the weaker programs. Last week our Committee 
+launched a website to facilitate this project. I encourage parents, 
+teachers, taxpayers and anyone else with an interest in Head Start to 
+check out this website and use it to share your experiences.
+    The second problem is that an unacceptable share of federal Head 
+Start funding never reaches the disadvantaged children the money is 
+meant to serve. Instead it is being lost to financial abuse, 
+mismanagement, impropriety, or outright theft within the Head Start 
+system. These abuses are happening at the expense of children served by 
+the many law-abiding grantees within the Head Start system-grantees 
+that too often are put in the position of being forced to defend the 
+actions of the ``bad apples'' in the program.
+    Between January 2003 and the first months of 2005, media accounts 
+in numerous U.S. cities alleged serious financial abuses and 
+irregularities by those entrusted with the responsibility of managing 
+Head Start funds meant to serve poor children. The incidents identified 
+in these reports collectively involve the use of tens of millions in 
+federal Head Start funds that were intended to serve more than 10,000 
+disadvantaged U.S. children. Such reports surfaced in Baltimore, 
+Maryland; Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Charleston, South Carolina; 
+Charleston, West Virginia; Cleveland, Ohio; Columbus, Ohio; Honolulu, 
+Hawaii; Jamestown, North Dakota; Kansas City, Missouri; Las Vegas, 
+Nevada; Little Rock, Arkansas; Lubbock, Texas; Madison, Wisconsin; 
+Norwalk, Connecticut; Rapid City, South Dakota; San Antonio, Texas; and 
+Stockton, California. Some reports involving financial mismanagement 
+suggest that many Head Start grantees have good intentions, yet lack 
+strong fiscal controls and the skills needed to effectively manage 
+complex, multi-million dollar non-profit organizations.
+    As much as we all support Head Start, Congress simply cannot turn a 
+blind eye to this problem. Financial abuse in the Head Start system 
+cheats not only children and taxpayers, but also the many law-abiding 
+local Head Start grantees nationwide who find themselves in the 
+position of being asked to defend indefensible practices by other 
+grantees.
+    A new report by the independent Government Accountability Office 
+(GAO) warns the financial control system in the federal Head Start 
+early childhood program is flawed and failing to prevent these abuses. 
+GAO has independently determined that unresolved financial management 
+weaknesses among Head Start grantees are having a negative impact on 
+some eligible children. It has also determined that the procedures the 
+federal government uses to collect data on grantee financial management 
+performance have significant flaws.
+    The GAO report recommends that the federal government take steps to 
+allow the ``recompetition'' of grants awarded to Head Start grantees. 
+I'm particularly interested in hearing from our witnesses today on this 
+issue. It's my view that by failing to promote competition for Head 
+Start grants, the federal government has essentially granted monopoly 
+power to some Head Start operators-and as often happens with 
+monopolies, that power has been abused.
+    Removing obstacles to competition for Head Start grants must be a 
+top priority for Congress in reauthorizing Head Start. If we fail to 
+accomplish this goal, we will fail in our most basic responsibility to 
+children and taxpayers.
+    Also, some states are operating their own early childhood programs, 
+programs that sometimes rival Head Start in quality. I do think we need 
+to help such states better integrate and coordinate these programs with 
+Head Start, to better serve the needs of our most disadvantaged 
+children. When Head Start was first established 40 years ago, it was 
+the only program of its kind--federal or state. Now there are many 
+different programs across the country preparing children for 
+kindergarten, and we need to make sure all of those children are 
+getting the same quality education.
+    In the last Congress, this Committee passed a bill that sought to 
+address this need. But we know many things today we didn't know then, 
+particularly with respect to the financial control problems that exist 
+in Head Start. With this in mind, I think we have a responsibility to 
+start from square one, and build this year's legislation from the 
+ground up. There were many elements in the 2003 bill that had 
+bipartisan support. Those things may provide a good foundation. And in 
+those areas where there was disagreement, I'm more than willing to look 
+at alternative routes that can be taken to reach the same goal, if they 
+might be effective. That includes the issue of coordination with state 
+programs, which generated the most disagreement two years ago.
+    I'm committed to passing a bill that promotes competition, 
+strengthens academics, and restores fairness for children, taxpayers, 
+and honest grantees. I think we can produce a bill that does these 
+things, and does it in a bipartisan fashion. As the Head Start 
+reauthorization process moves forward, this will be my goal.
+    I would now yield to the senior Democratic member of our committee, 
+Mr. Miller, for any opening statement he may have.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    Chairman Boehner. I would like to yield to my friend and 
+the Ranking Democrat on our Committee, Mr. Miller.
+
+ STATEMENT OF HON. GEORGE MILLER, RANKING MEMBER, COMMITTEE ON 
+                  EDUCATION AND THE WORKFORCE
+
+    Mr. Miller. Thank you Mr. Chairman. I want to thank the 
+majority for holding this hearing and for GAO's work on fiscal 
+accountability. Strengthening accountability and a shining 
+bright star in any program is an important process. Head Start 
+is this country's premiere early education program for low 
+income children. It has helped millions achieve more in school 
+and in life. We owe it to America's children and families 
+living in some of this country's most difficult situations to 
+provide them with the best programs possible. Making sure a 
+program is working efficiently and effectively is one of 
+Congress's most important jobs and it is particularly important 
+in a program like Head Start, which research shows has strong 
+effects on the cognitive and social development and almost 
+closes the achievement gap by the time these kids finish 
+kindergarten.
+    So I welcome this opportunity today and hope that we can 
+proceed in a constructive manner to do what is best for the 
+children. I have recently been disappointed at some of my 
+colleagues sensationalistic approach to today's topic, whether 
+it is Head Start or millions of dollars in fraud and waste in 
+higher education or billions of dollars by Halliburton, 
+fraudulent behavior cannot be tolerated. But sensationalism 
+only serves to heighten the rhetoric and distract people from 
+the real reforms that need to be undertaken.
+    Instead of resorting to gotcha attacks and rehashing risky 
+ideas from 2 years ago I hope that we can use this hearing to 
+start working together to strengthen Head Start. Head Start has 
+some extremely rigorous standards and procedures that are the 
+basis for its delivery of comprehensive services. It also has 
+one of the most demanding monitoring programs. According to 
+HHS, there are 1,797 program requirements covering areas of 
+early childhood development, health services, family and 
+community partnerships and program design and management. All 
+1,800 get assessed in some manner in the triennial prism review 
+by HHS. In addition to the prism review, grantees also submit 
+monthly financial records to their governing board to submit 
+audits to the ACF annually, and to report on program 
+performance to ACF annually and resubmit their budgets and 
+renew their grants to ACF annually.
+    I want to thank GAO for their work and their 
+recommendations. It is helpful to see that most programs are 
+being effectively managed and how we need better to target our 
+efforts on programs that are struggling. It seems clear that 
+Head Start has the most of the proper tools for strong 
+accountability, but they need to be better implemented. So I 
+look forward to hearing from all of the witnesses today and 
+listening to their recommendation. Head Start children and 
+families deserve the very best we can give them, and I hope 
+that we can work together today throughout the reauthorization 
+to make sure that is exactly what is true.
+    I am encouraged, Mr. Chairman, by your remarks that you are 
+prepared to discard some of those ideas from last year and work 
+together on a bipartisan solution for Head Start. That is very 
+encouraging. That is the manner in which we have made 
+continuous improvement in this program over the many years of 
+its existence. That is why it continues to be the premiere 
+program for the comprehensive development and education of 
+these children in these most difficult situations. And again, I 
+want to thank you for holding this hearing and look forward to 
+hearing from the witnesses.
+    Chairman Boehner. Thank you, Mr. Miller. The record will 
+show I haven't discarded anything.
+    Mr. Miller. I thought you said that there were some bad 
+ideas you were getting rid of.
+    Chairman Boehner. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from 
+Delaware, the Chairman of the Education Reform Subcommittee, 
+Mr. Castle.
+
+   STATEMENT OF HON. MICHAEL N. CASTLE, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
+              CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF DELAWARE
+
+    Mr. Castle. Thank you, Chairman Boehner. And good afternoon 
+ladies and gentlemen. I read the report a little bit 
+differently, perhaps, than Mr. Miller did in terms of some of 
+the problems here and I think they are fairly significant. But 
+I am pleased we are having the hearing and I am pleased that we 
+will learn more today. And I think we should approach this 
+constructively to try to deal with the issues of Head Start. I 
+happen to believe very strongly in Head Start, which is one of 
+the reasons I am frustrated by the problems that I have learned 
+about. I think it is a lifetime benefit. There is some 
+discussion about that, but I think it is a lifetime benefit 
+that it provides to the children who go through it and to their 
+families. And I think this hearing is important to make sure 
+that we are off on a solid footing as far as this year is 
+concerned.
+    Approximately 2 years ago, I think it was a little bit less 
+than 2 years really, we began to hear deeply concerning press 
+reports of financial mismanagement in some Head Start programs 
+across the country. Unfortunately we have heard of everything 
+from embezzlement to the leasing of luxury vehicles with Head 
+Start funds. I was particularly upset to hear of a director who 
+chose to divert funds from Head Start children in order to 
+operate a restaurant. As Chairman Boehner and I heard more and 
+more stories like these, we decided to launch a study into 
+these instances, specifically, why were they happening. We 
+wanted to know if children were being shortchanged, if these 
+were isolated incidents; if HHS has the tools necessary to 
+catch them and how can we fix it? The impetus for asking the 
+Department of Health and Human Services and the Government 
+Accountability Office, GAO, to examine the procedures 
+surrounding program management is simple, to ensure Federal 
+dollars are going to the children participating in the Head 
+Start program and not to fund lavish perks and blatant abuses.
+    I am not only shocked at the number of reports that have 
+filtered out from across the country, but the mere fact that 
+they are happening. While it is true that these incidences 
+represent a limited number of Head Start programs, I truly 
+believe that one is too many. I commend the thousands of Head 
+Start programs who do not sway from their goals of providing 
+necessary services to the children and families in their 
+programs. The fact remains, however, that there is a problem 
+and the children at faulty programs do deserve better. I don't 
+believe that my job is to point fingers or blame, but I do 
+believe strongly that we have a responsibility to prevent any 
+future abuses. It is in the interest of the more than 900,000 
+low income children across the country that we identify areas 
+where we can make sound change in order to strengthen the 
+overall program.
+    The GAO report, however, is quite clear that there are 
+deficiencies in the manner HHS has monitored the program 
+throughout the years. You will hear testimony from the GAO 
+today that despite the numerous processes in place to monitor 
+financial management, HHS has not utilized this information to 
+assess overall program risks. Moreover, of the grantees 
+reviewed by HHS in 2000, 76 percent were out of compliance with 
+financial management standards, and 53 percent of the same 
+grantees remained out of compliance at their next review. 
+Disturbing stories presented about Head Start grantees and 
+knowledge of the flaws at HHS allow us to move forward in a 
+productive manner. The GAO report identifies key areas of 
+reform and Assistant Secretary Horn will testify as to changes 
+made at HHS to address management abuses.
+    I am encouraged by the GAO's recommendations and do believe 
+they will assist in this effort. I also look forward to 
+learning what this Committee can do through the reauthorization 
+process to complement what has and will be instituted. We have 
+been deliberative up to this point making sure that we are 
+identifying why this has happened. And I fully intend on 
+continuing to monitor the program to ensure that there are not 
+future abuses.
+    Head Start is a program that is supposed to help our 
+disadvantaged students by giving them the edge they need to 
+come to school ready to learn. It is not supposed to be a 
+program that benefits the executive directors by loading their 
+pockets and satisfying their whims. The reality is some bad 
+actors are shedding a bad light on the good programs that exist 
+nationwide. And for the benefit of the program and all who take 
+part in it, it is important to institute reform to ensure Head 
+Start can continue to serve all needy children the way it is 
+supposed to. It is unfortunate that it has come to this point, 
+but I am hopeful this will be a catalyst for all of us to work 
+together on critical reforms to restore the public's faith in 
+Head Start programs nationwide and to create a strong program 
+for years to come. And I yield back.
+    [The prepared statement of Mr. Castle follows:]
+
+Statement of Hon. Michael N. Castle, a Representative in Congress from 
+                         the State of Delaware
+
+    Good Afternoon. I am pleased to welcome all of today's witnesses, 
+and look forward to hearing your testimony. I would also like to thank 
+the Chairman for his leadership. I believe strongly in the Head Start 
+program, and the lifetime benefits it provides to children and their 
+families. This hearing is an important step in making sure this program 
+maintains solid footing.
+    Approximately two-years ago we began to hear deeply concerning 
+press reports of financial mismanagement in some Head Start programs 
+across the country. Unfortunately, we have heard of everything from 
+embezzlement to the leasing of luxury vehicles with Head Start funds. I 
+was particularly upset to hear of a director who chose to divert funds 
+from Head Start children in order to operate a restaurant. As Chairman 
+Boehner and myself heard more and more stories like these we decided to 
+launch a study into these instances. Specifically, why they were 
+happening. We wanted to know if children were being short changed, if 
+these were isolated incidents, if HHS has the tools necessary to catch 
+them, and how can we fix it. The impetus for asking the Department of 
+Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Government Accountability 
+Office (GAO) to examine the procedures surrounding program management 
+is simple--to ensure federal dollars are going to the children 
+participating in the Head Start program, and not to fund lavish perks 
+and blatant abuses.
+    I am not only shocked at the number of reports that have filtered 
+out from across the country, but the mere fact that they are happening. 
+While it is true that these incidences represent a small number of Head 
+Start programs, I truly believe that one is too many. I commend the 
+thousands of Head Start programs who do not sway from their goals of 
+providing necessary services to the children and families in their 
+programs. The fact remains, however, that there is a problem and the 
+children at faulty programs deserve better.
+    I don't believe that my job is to point fingers or blame, but do 
+believe strongly that we have a responsibility to prevent any future 
+abuses. It is in the interest of the more than 900,000 low-income 
+children across the country that we identify areas where we can make 
+sound change in order to strengthen the overall program. The GAO 
+report, however, is quite clear that there are deficiencies in the 
+manner HHS has monitored the program throughout the years. You will 
+hear testimony from the GAO today that despite the numerous processes 
+in place to monitor financial management, HHS has not utilized this 
+information to assess overall program risk. Moreover, of the grantees 
+reviewed by HHS in 2000, 76 percent were out of compliance with 
+financial management standards and 53 percent of the same grantees 
+remained out of compliance at their next review.
+    The disturbing stories presented about Head Start grantees, and 
+knowledge of the flaws at HHS allow us to move forward in a productive 
+manner. The GAO report identifies key areas of reform, and Assistant 
+Secretary Horn will testify as to changes made at HHS to address 
+management abuses. I am encouraged by the GAO's recommendations, and do 
+believe they will assist in this effort. I also look forward to 
+learning what this Committee can do through the reauthorization process 
+to compliment what has, and will, be instituted. We have been 
+deliberative up to this point in making sure that we are identifying 
+why this has happened, and I fully intend on continuing to monitor the 
+program to ensure there are not future abuses.
+    Head Start is a program that is supposed to help our disadvantaged 
+students by giving them the edge they need to come to school ready to 
+learn; it is not supposed to be a program that benefits the executive 
+directors by loading their pockets and satisfying their whims. The 
+reality is some crooked actors are shedding a bad light on the good 
+programs that exist nationwide and for the benefit of the program and 
+all who take part in it, it is important to institute reform to ensure 
+Head Start can continue to serve all needy children the way it is 
+supposed to. It's unfortunate that it has come to this point, but I am 
+hopeful this will be a catalyst for all of us to work together on 
+critical reforms to restore the public's faith in Head Start programs 
+nationwide and to create a strong program for years to come.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    Chairman Boehner. The Chair recognizes the gentlelady from 
+California, Ms. Woolsey.
+
+STATEMENT OF HON. LYNN C. WOOLSEY, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS 
+                  FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
+
+    Ms. Woolsey. Thank you Mr. Chairman. I hope that today is 
+the beginning of a process that will end up with a Head Start 
+law with high standards, strong accountability, and more 
+resources, so that the children who most need help to succeed 
+in life get that help when they most need it. There is no more 
+critical program for our Nation's children than Head Start, 
+because there are no years more critical to their development 
+than their early years. I am sure we all agree that the vast 
+majority of Head Start programs provide comprehensive high 
+quality services that help children make academic and social 
+gains to close the achievement gap before they enter 
+kindergarten.
+    We were able to work last Congress on Title I to improve 
+Head Start's accountability provisions to ensure high 
+performance by Head Start programs. Of course, accountability 
+in the law must be implemented in practice. And so I am pleased 
+that we are considering this GAO report that calls for improved 
+accountability through changes to the law and efforts by the 
+Department of Health and Human Services to identify poorly 
+performing programs so that we can help them improve, and for 
+those that cannot or will not improve, force them out, as a 
+last resort. Because any waste or fraud in Head Start is 
+unacceptable, I believe that the GAO report will provide with 
+us an opportunity to work together to make the Head Start 
+improvements that we need.
+    But it is important that we understand that this report 
+does not say--and I have to say this louder than loud--that 
+fraud and abuse are widespread in Head Start programs, because 
+it just is not true. There are incidents, yes. But often a Head 
+Start program simply needs more oversight and technical 
+assistance to help it do what it is trying do in the first 
+place, comply with detailed financial management requirements. 
+Most importantly, Mr. Chairman, we must not allow the report to 
+distract us from the fact that if we truly are concerned about 
+getting Head Start dollars to children, we also must look at 
+this President's and this Congress's minimal increases in 
+support for the Head Start program.
+    Those increases have barely kept pace with inflation, if 
+that, which means that for Head Start programs, programs that 
+should be getting more resources so that they can serve more 
+children in the first place, the only way not to cut children 
+from the roles is to decrease the quality of services. But 
+again, Mr. Chairman, I hope we will be able to work in a very 
+bipartisan way to reauthorize Head Start and to learn from the 
+challenges that we met in the 108th Congress, and I look 
+forward to the panel's discussion today. Thank you, Mr. 
+Chairman.
+    Chairman Boehner. We have a distinguished panel with us 
+today. It is my pleasure to introduce them. Our first witness 
+today will be Dr. Marnie S. Shaul. Dr. Shaul is the director on 
+the Education, Workforce and Income Security Team at the 
+Government Accountability Office. She is responsible for the 
+studies that GAO undertakes for the Congress on early childhood 
+programs and elementary and secondary education programs. Dr. 
+Shaul has had a varied career that includes research, teaching 
+project management and policy development. And prior to the 
+Federal Government, she worked for the State of Ohio on 
+community and business development issues at the Kettering 
+Foundation. She holds a Ph.D. in economics from the Ohio State 
+University.
+    Then we will hear from the Honorable Wade F. Horn. Dr. Horn 
+is the Assistant Secretary for the Administration For Children 
+and Families At the Department of Health and Human Services. 
+Prior to being appointed to the Assistant Secretary, Dr. Horn 
+was president of the National Fatherhood Initiative, whose 
+mission is to increase the number of children growing up with 
+involved committed and responsible fathers. During the first 
+Bush administration, Mr. Horn served as the Commissioner For 
+Children, Youth and Families and chief of the Children's Bureau 
+At the Department of Health and Human Services and as a 
+Presidential appointee to the National Commission on Children 
+from 1990 to 1993. From 1993 to 2001 Dr. Horn served as an 
+adjunct faculty member at Georgetown University's public policy 
+institute and an affiliate scholar with the Hudson institute.
+    Then we will hear from Ms. Pamela Henry. Ms. Henry is a 
+proud parent of 4 adopted children, all with special needs, all 
+of whom participate in the Head Start program. She is a 
+licensed nail technician and an active member of her community 
+in Las Vegas, Nevada. She is the president of Foster Parents of 
+Southern Nevada, a local affiliate for the National Foster 
+Parents Association, and president of the West Neighborhood 
+Care Centers.
+    As a Head Start parent, Ms. Henry served as a center 
+representative for the Head Start Policy Council of the 
+Economic Opportunity Board during the 2001/02 school year and 
+as vice chair and community representative for Foster Parents 
+from 2002 to 2004. Over the last several years, Ms. Henry 
+served as policy council chair. She credits Head Start with the 
+parenting and leadership skills she has developed during her 
+tenure on the policy council.
+    And last we will hear from Olivia Golden. Dr. Golden is a 
+senior fellow at the urban institute and from 2001 to 2004 she 
+served as the director of the Child and Family Services Agency 
+of the District of Columbia. During the Clinton administration, 
+she served in two positions within the U.S. Department of 
+Health and Human Services, first as Commissioner for Children, 
+Youth and Families, and then as Assistant Secretary for 
+children and families.
+    In these roles she was responsible for over 60 Federal 
+programs, including Head Start and early Head Start. Dr. Golden 
+also held previous positions at the Childrens Defense Fund, the 
+Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University and the 
+Office of Human Services in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
+    I am sure someone has explained to you how the lights work 
+many times. We would like to keep all of your comments to 5 
+minutes and then Members will ask questions. And with that, Dr. 
+Shaul we are glad you are here. You may begin.
+
+   STATEMENT OF MARNIE S. SHAUL, DIRECTOR, EDUCATION ISSUES, 
+   EDUCATION, WORKFORCE AND INCOME SECURITY, U.S. GOVERNMENT 
+             ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE, WASHINGTON, DC
+
+    Ms. Shaul. Thank you very much. Mr. Chairman and Members of 
+the Committee, I appreciate the opportunity to present the 
+findings of the report we did for this Committee on financial 
+oversight of the Head Start program by the Department of Health 
+and Human Services. As you pointed out, Head Start has provided 
+services to low income children for 40 years and at about $6.8 
+billion is the largest Federal investment in early childhood 
+education and care. So it is important that program management 
+insures that children receive the services they deserve. My 
+remarks today focus on three issues: First, risk assessment, 
+the extent to which the administration for children and 
+families, the part of the department responsible for Head 
+Start, connects information to make an assessment of financial 
+risks. Second, information quality, the quality of the 
+information in ACF's processes. And third, correcting financial 
+problems, the effectiveness of ACF's approaches in insuring 
+that grantees with financial weaknesses correct their problems. 
+Let me turn first to risk assessment. ACF does not bring the 
+information it collects together to comprehensively assess the 
+financial risks the program faces. Now, we have a chart over 
+here and all those different bubbles represent different 
+processes that are already in existence at the Agency.
+    Ms. McCollum. Dr. Shaul, do you have a copy of that chart?
+    Ms. Shaul. It is in your testimony statements. Both charts 
+are in the statement. So although there are all these 
+individual processes and they are collected by the different 
+offices, that chart is in your statement over there. Those are 
+the offices. The information is not integrated. And instead, 
+Head Start sometimes relies on more of an ad hoc approach, ad 
+hoc responses. For example, it responds to calls made to 
+regional offices about grantee problems or to questions from 
+the Congress. This type of response is useful but it cannot 
+substitute for a comprehensive approach to determining where 
+Head Start faces the highest risk. Second, regarding 
+information quality, we found problems with ACF's process, and 
+again, I am talking about the ones that are in that chart. For 
+example, different onsite review times have had inconsistent 
+findings about the status of the same grantee.
+    Another example. The information provided in ACF's annual 
+surveys is not verified, and some critical information such as 
+enrollment has been inaccurately reported by grantees. Third, 
+with respect to correcting financial problems, we found that 
+ACF is not fully effective in insuring that grantees correct 
+their financial problems. As was mentioned, in 2000, 76 percent 
+of the grantees ACF reviewed onsite were out of compliance with 
+one or more financial management standards. And since then, 
+when ACF did a follow-up visit, more than half of these 
+grantees still were not compliant with financial management 
+standards. A small percent of Head Start grantees have a level 
+of noncompliance that ACF determines deficient, a status that 
+brings corrective action beyond self-certification. However, we 
+found that ACF regional offices did not use common criteria to 
+determine deficiency. In our review of 20 grantee files that 
+contained similar financial problems and where we would have 
+expected similar results, half were deemed deficient and half 
+were not.
+    Finally, when ACF finds that a grantee has very serious and 
+continuing problems that may impair services to children, its 
+corrective action may be limited. Over the past decade, a 
+relatively small percentage of grantees relinquished their 
+grants or were terminated. ACF generally agreed with GAO's 
+recommendations to strengthen the tools it uses for financial 
+management. However ACF disagreed with GAO's interpretation of 
+its authority to recompete grants. ACF said that it must give 
+current grantees priority at renewal time which effectively 
+eliminates its opportunity to replace grantees. We believe that 
+when grantees reapply for their grant, ACF has an opportunity 
+to change grantees, if a grantee fails to fulfill program and 
+financial requirements. For that reason, we suggested that the 
+Congress might want to consider clarifying the circumstances 
+under which ACF can recompete a Head Start grant.
+    Mr. Chairman, that concludes my remarks. I would ask my 
+full statement be placed in the record and I would be pleased 
+to answer questions. Thank you.
+    [The prepared statement of Dr. Shaul follows:]
+
+   Statement of Marnie S. Shaul, Ph.D., Director, Education Issues, 
+       Education, Workforce and Income Security, U.S. Government 
+                 Accountability Office, Washington, DC
+
+    Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee:
+    I am pleased to be here today to discuss our recent report on 
+oversight of the Head Start program by the Department of Health and 
+Human Services (HHS) to ensure that federal funds are used to achieve 
+Head Start's goals. Head Start is the federal government's single 
+largest investment in early childhood education and care for low-income 
+children. HHS's Administration for Children and Families (ACF) manages 
+Head Start and relies on hundreds of different grantees throughout the 
+country to provide services to more than 900,000 children and their 
+families. Head Start funding increased three-fold in real terms during 
+the 1990s. Currently, ACF disburses about $6.8 billion annually to Head 
+Start grantees. As you can imagine, managing a program of this size, 
+with this many grantees and beneficiaries, can present many challenges.
+    The reauthorization of Head Start presents an opportunity to 
+discuss some of these management challenges. Although Head Start is a 
+popular program and millions of low income children have benefited from 
+the program over the past 40 years, it is important to ensure that all 
+grantees are held accountable for achieving program results and 
+properly managing their federal funds.
+    My testimony today will focus on how well ACF manages the financial 
+risks associated with the Head Start program. Specifically, I will 
+discuss (1) ACF's processes to assess financial risks, (2) how those 
+processes can be improved to ensure the accuracy and reliability of the 
+information ACF collects on its Head Start grantees, and (3) the 
+effectiveness of the approaches ACF uses to make sure Head Start 
+grantees address any financial management weaknesses in a timely 
+manner.
+    My written statement is drawn from our recent report on Head Start 
+risk management, which was completed for the Committee in accordance 
+with generally accepted government auditing standards.\1\
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+    \1\ GAO, Head Start, Comprehensive Approach to Identifying and 
+Addressing Risks Could Help Prevent Grantee Financial Management 
+Weaknesses, GAO-05-176 (Washington, D.C.: Feb. 28, 2005).
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------
+    In summary:
+      ACF does not have a comprehensive risk assessment process 
+it can use to collect information on how well grantees are performing 
+and managing their federal grant funds. Such an assessment should be 
+able to provide ACF with the information it needs to target its 
+oversight activities, reduce the risks inherent in managing a large 
+federal grant program, and help prevent grantees from failing 
+financially, through earlier intervention. While ACF has many processes 
+it uses to collect information on its grantees, these efforts are 
+conducted by different organizations within ACF, and ACF does not have 
+a process in place to systematically bring the information together in 
+one place to do an assessment of how well the program is operating.
+      When we looked more closely at ACF's oversight processes, 
+we identified flaws that limit the quality, accuracy, and reliability 
+of the information ACF collects on its grantees. For example, ACF does 
+not have a quality assurance process that could validate the findings 
+of the reviews it conducts of its grantees at least every 3 years; it 
+does not verify the accuracy of the data it asks its grantees to submit 
+on key performance indicators each year; and it does not reconcile a 
+grantee's actual withdrawals with its reported expenditures until all 
+of the funds have been spent. These flaws limit the information ACF has 
+on Head Start grantee's financial status and operations and, as a 
+result, many program specialists in ACF regional offices that we 
+visited told us they most frequently learn that a grantee is having 
+trouble through a call from a parent or teacher reporting a problem. 
+Program specialists said that such calls were a routine part of their 
+day-to-day monitoring activities. Over-reliance on this approach to 
+identifying problems can result in missed opportunities to help 
+grantees address management challenges before they become problems. As 
+a result, unchecked problems may worsen. Although infrequent, there 
+have been cases in which grantees have furloughed employees or 
+temporarily closed centers--thereby disrupting services to children and 
+their families--because they spent their grant funds too quickly and 
+did not adequately manage their grants to ensure that there would be 
+funds available throughout the school year.
+      When ACF identified grantees with financial management 
+problems, we found that it took limited actions to ensure that grantees 
+quickly corrected their problems and made lasting changes to their 
+programs so the problems would not surface again. This is a concern 
+because ACF's data show that more than 76 percent of Head Start 
+programs that were reviewed in 2000 were out of compliance with 
+financial management standards, and more than half of these grantees 
+were still out of compliance during their next review. When we looked 
+at the approach ACF takes to ensure that grantees correct their 
+problems, we found that ACF most frequently relies on grantees to self-
+certify that they have corrected their problems without ever visiting 
+the grantees for verification. One of the more aggressive approaches 
+ACF can take to address long-standing problems is to require the 
+grantee to develop and implement a quality improvement plan, but first 
+ACF must declare the grantee ``deficient''--a term it uses to identify 
+grantees with severe problems. Yet, we noted inconsistencies in the 
+process used by the ACF regional offices to determine the severity of 
+the problem. As a result, one grantee could be deemed deficient while 
+another, with similar problems, would not. We also found that ACF makes 
+limited use of its authority to terminate its relationship with poorly 
+performing grantees. ACF does not seek competition for a grant until 
+after the current grantee has exhausted all its appeals or it has 
+convinced a poorly performing grantee to voluntarily relinquish its 
+grant. The process to remove a grantee that fails to perform up to 
+standards is protracted, and that grantee can continue to receive funds 
+long after financial management weaknesses have been identified. In the 
+meantime, the community has no other option for Head Start services and 
+low-income children may not receive the quality or intensity of 
+services that they need.
+    We made a number of recommendations in our report and ACF agreed to 
+implement many of them. Implementing these recommendations will go a 
+long way towards ensuring that those responsible for overseeing the 
+Head Start program and its 1,680 grantees have the information they 
+need to target oversight resources effectively and reduce the program's 
+risks. More importantly, however, these improvements should help ACF 
+prevent grantee financial management weaknesses before the problems 
+become too severe. We also recommended that ACF make greater use of its 
+authority to seek competition by taking steps to seek qualified 
+applicants where the current grantee fails to meet program 
+requirements. While such a step should be taken after carefully 
+considering all available options, competition would help to ensure 
+that children are no longer served by poorly performing grantees. 
+Ultimately, enforcing all the program's requirements--especially 
+financial management requirements--strengthens the federal commitment 
+to poor children and their families by effectively managing scarce 
+federal resources and making sure as many eligible families as possible 
+can participate in the program.
+Background
+    Begun in 1965 as part of the Johnson Administration's War on 
+Poverty, Head Start offers poor children and their families a range of 
+services, including preschool education, family support, health 
+screenings, dental care, and assistance in accessing medical services. 
+The program may either provide the services directly or facilitate 
+access to existing services. Eligibility for Head Start is generally 
+limited to children who are below the age of school entry and from 
+families with incomes below the federal poverty level or receiving cash 
+assistance from the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. To 
+accomplish Head Start's goals for these poor children and families, the 
+Congress last year provided $6.8 billion in federal funds, which HHS 
+awards directly to nearly 1,700 grantees nationwide. As funding for 
+this longstanding program has grown, so has the risk associated with 
+any mismanagement of program funds.
+    While effective oversight of federal funds is always a guiding 
+principle in managing the various federal government programs, 
+accounting scandals in the private sector in 2001-2002 reinforced the 
+need for organizations to have stronger financial oversight. Since that 
+time, both public sector and private sector organizations--including 
+many not-for-profit organizations--are paying closer attention to 
+managing the risks in their operations. Indeed, the Office of 
+Management and Budget (OMB) recently revised its guidance for federal 
+agencies' financial managers to better integrate and coordinate their 
+risk assessments and other management activities.
+    The primary goal in managing any federal program is to provide 
+reasonable assurance that the program is operating as intended and is 
+achieving expected outcomes. A key step in the process of providing 
+this assurance is conducting a risk assessment. A risk assessment is a 
+comprehensive review and analysis of program operations, especially the 
+management of federal funds, to identify risks and to measure the 
+potential or actual impact of those risks on program operations. The 
+potential for such risks exist in all federal grant programs; for 
+example, the diversion of funds to other purposes, inefficient use of 
+funds, failure to contribute the grantee's share of funds, or other 
+problems that reduce the effectiveness with which financial resources 
+are brought to bear on achieving program goals. When a federal program 
+relies heavily on grantees to provide services, as the Head Start 
+program does, the risk assessment process can become more complex. 
+Processes must be developed to assess the operations of every grantee 
+to ensure that each complies with program rules and to measure whether 
+each achieves expected results.
+    The federal government makes Head Start grants directly to nearly 
+1,700 local organizations, including community action agencies, school 
+systems, for-profit and nonprofit organizations, other government 
+agencies, and tribal governments or associations. Many of these 
+grantees operate other federal, state, or local programs in addition to 
+the Head Start program. Many of these Head Start grantees also provide 
+services by subcontracting with other organizations, known as delegate 
+agencies. In 2003, there were about 800 delegates providing services in 
+the Head Start program. Some grantees had multiple delegate agencies 
+while others had none. The various layers of grantees, the 
+administrative complexity of the program, and the interrelationship 
+between programs operated by the same grantee add to the challenges of 
+overseeing the Head Start program.
+    ACF uses a number of processes to collect information on grantee 
+performance and financial management. Table 1 summarizes ACF key 
+processes for monitoring Head Start grantees.
+
+[GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0472.001
+
+    Various offices within ACF have roles in developing and 
+implementing processes to monitor grantee performance and financial 
+management. (See fig. 1). The Head Start Bureau develops program 
+policies and designs the program-specific oversight processes to 
+collect information on grantee performance. Staff from the ten regional 
+offices implement the policies developed by the other offices within 
+ACF, ensure that all grantees are in compliance with program rules, and 
+frequently develop additional policies to aid in their oversight 
+responsibilities.
+
+[GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0472.002
+
+ACF Lacks a Comprehensive Strategy to Assess Head Start Risks
+    ACF uses many processes to collect information on grantee 
+performance and financial management but does not bring together this 
+information to comprehensively assess the program's risks or identify 
+areas where it might need new or improved processes to collect 
+information. Staff in ACF regional offices maintain day-to-day contact 
+with the Head Start grantees and monitor the operations of those 
+grantees throughout the country. Many of those regional office staff 
+told us that they most frequently learn if a grantee is having a 
+problem through a call from a parent or a teacher. The staff in the 
+regional offices said these calls are a routine part of their day-to-
+day monitoring activities. Over-reliance on this approach can result in 
+missed opportunities to help grantees address management challenges 
+before they become problems. Greater linkages among the various 
+programs offices and oversight activities could produce a more 
+comprehensive approach to assessing program risks and help prevent 
+financial management weaknesses in Head Start grantees. (See fig. 2).
+
+[GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0472.003
+
+    In our review of ACF's management of the Head Start program, we 
+noted a number of on-going activities that were not well-integrated and 
+did not present a comprehensive view of the program's risks. For 
+example, Head Start's 2004 Management Initiative targeted risks that 
+were identified in recent GAO reports, news articles, and congressional 
+inquiries. The Initiative targeted well-known problems such as 
+underenrollment, overenrollment of children from families that did not 
+meet income eligibility requirements, and excessive executive 
+compensation at some Head Start programs. However, efforts to address 
+broader concerns about program governance--the skills and knowledge of 
+local Head Start governing boards to effectively manage their 
+programs--were notably absent from the Initiative.
+    In another example of an ACF oversight process that is too limited 
+in scope, we reported that before 2004 ACF had not collected 
+information it could use to estimate the extent of improper payments 
+made by grantees or the Head Start Bureau. But when ACF began to 
+collect this information, the agency focused on just one type of 
+improper payments to grantees--payments made to grantees that enrolled 
+too many children from families that did not meet the program's income 
+eligibility requirements. These improper payments pose a program risk 
+because eligible children may not have access to services. While this 
+effort is an important step in systematically assessing risks, the 
+study overlooked many other possible forms of improper payments, such 
+as those made to contractors, to grantees that are significantly 
+underenrolled, or for unallowable program activities.
+    Finally, we noted in our report that ACF relies on its regional 
+offices to assess their own operations for gaps that might pose risks 
+to all ACF programs, including Head Start. Such gaps might include 
+failure to follow ACF grant management policies or to maintain files on 
+property acquired or renovated with Head Start funds. Self-assessments 
+can be an important tool, but ACF had not recently conducted an 
+independent compliance review to ensure that its own grant policies are 
+enforced and that the federal government's financial interests are 
+protected.
+
+Processes ACF Uses to Collect and Analyze Information on Grantees are 
+        Flawed
+    We found that the main processes ACF uses to collect information on 
+its grantees' financial management--on-site reviews, annual grantee 
+surveys, and analyses of financial reports and audits--have flaws that 
+limit the value of the information collected. The on-site review 
+process, mandated by the Head Start Act and often known as PRISM--the 
+name of the review protocol--is ACF's main tool to assess whether 
+grantees are in compliance with statutory and regulatory requirements. 
+While the Head Start Bureau has made progress in improving its on-site 
+reviews, we found that problems remain. We found that the Bureau has no 
+process to ensure that the teams of reviewers follow the Bureau's 
+guidance. This is a concern because there is evidence that some PRISM 
+reviewers might not follow the guidance for the on-site reviews. For 
+example, comparisons of simultaneous on-site reviews of the same 
+grantees by two different teams--a PRISM review team and an improper 
+payments study team--revealed significant discrepancies. Notably, 21 of 
+the 50 grantees in the improper payments study were cited for enrolling 
+too many children that did not meet the income eligibility guidelines, 
+but the PRISM review teams cited only 3 of those same grantees for 
+failing to comply with income eligibility criteria.
+    The effectiveness of on-site reviews to systematically identify 
+grantees with financial management weaknesses depends on some assurance 
+that the on-site review is implemented as designed and that the 
+reviewers have the necessary skills to assess grantees' compliance with 
+Head Start performance standards. The review teams are lead by staff 
+from ACF's regional offices and include a number of reviewers under 
+contract with Head Start. Many of these contractors are employees of 
+Head Start programs throughout the country. While this level of 
+experience should indicate a familiarity with Head Start program 
+requirements, ACF does not check reviewer credentials or test their 
+knowledge of the rules before they are sent to conduct reviews. ACF 
+seeks feedback, on a voluntary basis, on the contractors' performance 
+but ACF's Director of Regional Operations expressed reluctance to 
+solicit feedback on the team leaders' performance.
+    ACF also uses an annual survey of its grantees to collect 
+information on the status of their programs to measure results, but ACF 
+does not verify the information collected. We reported last year that 
+important information, such as enrollment in many Head Start programs, 
+is often reported inaccurately. Also, our analysis raises concerns 
+about the reliability of the survey data. ACF relies on 700 checks of 
+internal consistency to ensure that data are reported accurately. Many 
+ACF officials said that the checks make it difficult for grantees to 
+provide inaccurate information. However, our own review of the internal 
+consistency of the data found problems; as long as grantees complete 
+the survey consistently, the data--whether accurate or not--would pass 
+the tests. While ACF officials said they would be able to address the 
+problems we identified in our analysis, because the data are used 
+widely by policymakers and the public to assess the program's results, 
+until ACF takes steps to ensure the accuracy of the database we urge 
+caution in using data from the survey to monitor Head Start grantees.
+    All Head Start grantees report on the status of their funds through 
+periodic financial reporting and annual audits of their financial 
+statements. We found that ACF made limited use of the information 
+collected through these two processes to analyze Head Start grantees' 
+financial status. For example, ACF does not routinely reconcile a 
+grantee's withdrawals with its reported expenditures until after the 
+funds have all been spent. It is therefore difficult for ACF to 
+identify grantees that might be drawing down excess funds at the 
+beginning of the grant period and risking shortfalls at the end of the 
+period. Regarding audits, all grantees must obtain an annual audit of 
+their financial statements and compliance with selected federal laws 
+and regulations. These audits are conducted under a framework mandated 
+by the Single Audit Act. While these audits may not be as comprehensive 
+as an on-site program review, they are designed to ensure that federal 
+grantees' financial statements are accurate, that they have adequate 
+checks and balances in place to protect federal funds, and that they 
+are in compliance with key regulations. However, ACF officials cited 
+limitations in the scope and timing of the audits for failing to use 
+them more systematically in their day-to-day oversight activities. In 
+focusing on the limitations of these audits, ACF officials may overlook 
+some valuable information on grantees' financial management practices.
+
+ACF Does Not Ensure that Grantees Effectively Resolve Financial 
+        Management Problems
+    One way to assess the effectiveness of the approaches ACF uses to 
+address grantees' financial management weaknesses is to examine whether 
+grantees resolve their problems and then stay in compliance. ACF's data 
+from its on-site reviews from 2000-2003 show that many grantees that 
+were cited for failing to comply with financial management requirements 
+in one review still had problems in their next review.\2\ Our analysis 
+of the data shows that more than half of the grantees cited for failure 
+to comply with financial management-related rules were out of 
+compliance again with one or more financial management standards during 
+their next review. (See fig. 3).
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+    \2\ The data base for on-site reviews, PRISM, contains both 
+grantees and grantees with any delegate agencies reviewed. The data 
+presented in this section contains both types of entities. When we 
+analyzed the grantees separately, we obtained the same results about 
+percentages of grantees that were non-compliant and had recurrent 
+problems in their next review.
+
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+    Moreover, the number of areas of financial management in which 
+grantees were noncompliant did not decrease with subsequent reviews. As 
+figure 4 shows, of the 70 grantees cited in 2000 for problems in all 
+three major areas of financial management--fiscal management, program 
+governance, and record keeping/reporting--69 still had one or more 
+problems in each area at the next review.
+    The repeat problems could be a result of failure to correct the 
+problems in the first place--something that might have been identified 
+with a follow up review--or an initial correction that did not take 
+hold. One senior official in a regional office said that many Head 
+Start grantees will fix a problem identified in the PRISM report in the 
+short term but fail to make lasting changes to their financial 
+management systems. For example, a grantee might try to meet financial 
+reporting deadlines for a few months after being cited by a PRISM 
+review team for missing deadlines, but if the grantee did not implement 
+a system to ensure that these reports are consistently on time, the 
+improved performance may not be sustained
+
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+
+    When grantee problems are identified through on-site reviews or 
+audits, ACF often relies largely on grantees' self-certification that 
+they have corrected problems rather than imposing special conditions or 
+conducting a site visit. While self-certification may be appropriate in 
+cases when minor problems can be corrected quickly, the analysis in 
+figure 4 suggests that many grantees with problems are not getting the 
+help they need to correct their problems and make lasting improvements 
+in their financial management capabilities. We reviewed the files of 34 
+grantees with financial management problems identified by ACF during 
+its on-site reviews. In 18 cases, ACF determined that the grantees' 
+problems were not severe enough to be deemed deficient--a term ACF uses 
+to identify grantees with severe problems. Of those 18 grantees ACF 
+required 16 to submit letters certifying that they had corrected the 
+problems and no further action was pursued. In the other 2 cases, ACF 
+returned to the review the grantees and found that they had not 
+corrected their problems. It was not clear from our file review how ACF 
+prioritized these 2 grantees for follow-up, but in revisiting these 
+grantees ACF took an aggressive step to ensure compliance. Because the 
+two grantees had not corrected their problems, as required by law, ACF 
+deemed them deficient and required them to develop a quality 
+improvement plan.
+    ACF also relies primarily on self-certification to resolve problems 
+identified in grantees annual audits. In each of the 30 audits we 
+tracked from the date the auditor completed a report identifying 
+financial weaknesses until the regional office judged the audit 
+findings resolved, that judgment was based on a letter from the grantee 
+rather than a site visit or other follow-up. Regional staff said they 
+relied on subsequent audits to ensure that such findings are resolved, 
+but we found it frequently takes up to 2 years from the point an audit 
+identifies a problem until the regional office receives the next audit, 
+during which the grantee continues to receive federal funds. While the 
+results of our review in four regional offices may not represent the 
+range of actions taken by all ACF regional offices nationwide, we 
+interviewed managers in other regional offices who generally described 
+similar procedures.
+    To the extent that grantees have recurring financial management 
+problems, more aggressive approaches might be appropriate. ACF has the 
+authority to impose special award conditions--such as requiring 
+grantees to seek approval for every withdrawal of grant funds--but ACF 
+rarely imposes these conditions. ACF can also make a follow-on visit to 
+ensure that the grantee has implemented corrective actions and is in 
+compliance with the program's rules. The Head Start Act requires ACF to 
+conduct follow-on visits when it determines that a grantee has such 
+severe problems that it deems the grantee deficient; ACF can also 
+return to grantees with less severe problems, but we found ACF rarely 
+does so. We could not discern an objective rationale for when ACF 
+regional offices decide that a grantee is deficient and when they do 
+not. For example, reports based on the on-site reviews for 20 of the 
+grantees we reviewed showed similar problems in the quantity of 
+violations and the severity of the problems cited, but the regional 
+offices deemed only 10 of the grantees deficient. Regional office staff 
+and their managers in the offices we visited said they meet to discuss 
+any problems identified during the on-site review to determine whether 
+to deem the grantee deficient, but they said they treat each case 
+differently and largely base their determinations on their previous 
+experiences with the grantee.
+    The most aggressive approach ACF can take to ensure that a 
+community is served by a Head Start grantee with sound financial 
+management is to seek a new grantee if the current grantee cannot 
+perform as expected. However, we found that ACF rarely terminates its 
+relationships with poorly-performing grantees. Instead, ACF said that, 
+in lieu of terminating a poorly performing grantee, it will try to 
+convince such a grantee to voluntarily relinquish its right to its 
+grant. When ACF does undertake the protracted process of terminating 
+its relationship with a grantee, the grantee will continue to receive 
+funding even if it appeals ACF's decision--regardless of the appeal's 
+merits. Under ACF's current regulations, it must also fund a grantee's 
+legal costs until the grantee has exhausted its appeals before HHS' 
+Departmental Appeals Board. According to an Administrative Judge on the 
+Appeals Board, no other HHS grant program except Head Start allows 
+grantees to continue receiving funding throughout the appeals process.
+    When ACF decides to award a grant, the Head Start Act requires that 
+ACF give priority to grantees already operating a Head Start program in 
+the community. This aspect of the law provides important continuity for 
+Head Start services in a community. It also provides important 
+stability for grantees. However, the act allows the Secretary to deny 
+priority to any grantee the Secretary finds fails to meet the program's 
+performance or financial management requirements. Denial of priority 
+status to current Head Start grantees would open up the possibility of 
+competition for the grant among other qualified applicants. ACF could 
+seek a new grantee that can demonstrate the ability to manage federal 
+funds responsibly, in accordance with program rules, and that can 
+provide high-quality Head Start services to eligible children in the 
+community. Obviously, denying priority status to a grantee that has 
+been a part of a community for years, has educated multiple generations 
+of children from that community, and has employed a number of staff 
+from the community is a major step that should be taken after carefully 
+considering all available options. But, denial of priority status is a 
+step that ACF should take if a grantee fails to make the necessary 
+changes to effectively manage its program. Ultimately, enforcing all 
+the program's requirements--especially financial management 
+requirements--is really about strengthening our commitment to future 
+generations of children, seeking better ways of managing scarce federal 
+resources, and making sure that we reach as many eligible families as 
+possible.
+    We made 8 recommendations in our report to improve the overall 
+management of the Head Start program, strengthen the tools ACF uses to 
+collect useful information on its grantees, and improve ACF's analysis 
+of the information it collects. Specifically we recommended that the 
+Assistant Secretary for Children and Families:
+      Produce a comprehensive risk assessment of the Head Start 
+program and update it periodically. Such an assessment should:
+      Consider plans to collect data on and estimate the extent 
+of improper payments made for unallowable activities, payments to 
+grantees that are significantly underenrolled, or other unauthorized 
+activities,
+      Aim to improve the processes ACF currently uses to 
+collect and analyze information on program risks; for example, ACF 
+should:
+          Train and/or certify its on-site reviewers to ensure 
+        they have the skills and knowledge necessary to perform their 
+        responsibilities,
+          Develop an objective approach for regional office 
+        management to use in assessing the severity of the problems 
+        identified during on-site reviews and for finding grantees 
+        deficient or not, and
+          Implement a quality assurance process to ensure that 
+        the framework for conducting on-site reviews is implemented as 
+        designed, including holding ACF's regional management 
+        accountable for following this framework and for the quality of 
+        the reviews.
+      Verify key data from the annual survey of grantees to 
+enhance the usefulness of this data in overseeing its grantees and 
+managing the program, and
+      Seek ways to make greater use of the data it collects on 
+the status and use of federal funds through a periodic reconciliation 
+of grantees' reported expenditures with their withdrawals.
+      Take steps to obtain competition for a grant if ACF has 
+determined that the current grantee fails to meet program, financial 
+management, or other requirements. Such a competition could be held 
+without giving priority to the current grantee.
+    ACF agreed to implement most of our recommendations. However, ACF 
+expressed concerns about our last recommendation, suggesting that it 
+did not have the authority to seek competition from other qualified 
+applicants for grant funds in communities that are currently served by 
+poorly performing grantees without first terminating its relationship 
+with such grantees. Seeking other qualified applicants under these 
+circumstances would strengthen the linkages between a program's 
+performance--including financial management--and its funding. Congress 
+may wish to seek other qualified applicants and clarify the extent of 
+ACF's authority to deny priority status to grantees it determines fail 
+to meet program, financial management, and other requirements.
+    Mr. Chairman, that concludes my prepared statement. At this time, I 
+would be happy to take any questions you or other Committee Members may 
+have.
+
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    Chairman Boehner. Mr. Horn.
+
+  STATEMENT OF HON. WADE F. HORN, PH.D., ASSISTANT SECRETARY, 
+ ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF 
+           HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, WASHINGTON, DC
+
+    Mr. Horn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Members of the 
+Committee. I am very pleased to have this opportunity to appear 
+before you today to discuss the recent report of the Government 
+Accountability Office Head Start. The President is committed to 
+strengthening Head Start and has made accountability a guiding 
+principle of our work. And I can assure you that we have--we 
+take GAO's findings very seriously. For nearly 2 years, we have 
+been actively and aggressively engaged in addressing many of 
+the weaknesses cited in this report. Other suggestions in the 
+report will help us plan and implement additional strategies 
+for enhancing the quality and credibility of our oversight of 
+the Head Start program in order to ensure that all Head Start 
+children receive the Head Start they deserve. The Head Start 
+program is now in its 40th year and is a nearly $7 billion a 
+year program serving more than 900,000 low income children and 
+families, through a network of 1,600 local grantees.
+    Head Start children are served in nearly 50,000 classrooms 
+located within more than 20,000 centers, which are located in 
+more than 3,000 counties nationwide. Head Start is, in short, 
+the program that has wide ranging presence and influence. It 
+ought to be absolutely the best early childhood education 
+program we can design. As stewards of this program, we are 
+committed to making that goal a reality. I will focus my 
+testimony today on our ongoing efforts as well as some of our 
+planned initiatives to improve program oversight and 
+stewardship.
+    As discussed in the GAO report, we have several ongoing 
+procedures to examine program compliance and to measure 
+results. Key among these is the mandated triennial onsite 
+monitoring of local programs. Monitoring is one of our best 
+opportunities ensure that every Head Start program is 
+accountable to all applicable statutes and regulations. In the 
+last several months, inconsistent with many of the GAO's 
+observations and recommendations, we have implemented several 
+efforts to improve our oversight of local Head Start programs. 
+First, we have established for the first time minimum 
+qualifications for all reviewers in the area they are 
+reviewing. Establishing these minimum qualifications helps 
+insure that all individuals on a monitoring review team have 
+the knowledge, skills and experience necessary to be part of a 
+quality review.
+    Second, December of last year and February of this year, we 
+provided intensive multi-day training for more than 1,000 
+reviewers in the areas of fiscal program management and early 
+childhood development. Additional training will be conducted 
+later this year for reviewers in the fields of health and 
+nutrition services, mental health services and family and 
+community partnerships.
+    Third, we will soon be implementing a quality assurance 
+initiative in which specially trained reviewers will lead teams 
+to conduct reviews of a sample of recently monitored grantees. 
+We believe this effort will substantially address GAO's concern 
+about consistency among reviewers and across ACF regional 
+offices.
+    Fourth, we have been conducting in-depth analysis of all 
+triennial and first year monitoring reports to improve report 
+quality, comprehensiveness, accuracy and uniformity within and 
+across the regional offices.
+    Fifth, ACF substantially revised the fiscal checklists used 
+during all fiscal reviews to incorporate a risk-based 
+assessment approach. This will allow us to identify fiscal 
+issues which may suggest underlying fiscal problems.
+    Sixth, ACF is requiring the program review instrument for 
+systems monitoring, or PRISM review teams to closely examine 
+several special areas that were not as carefully or 
+consistently considered in the past, including transportation 
+services, condition in Federal interest and facilities, 
+salaries and staff compensation, maintenance of full enrollment 
+and income eligibility.
+    And finally, this year, ACF began emphasizing to grantees 
+that conducting quality comprehensive program self assessments 
+are critical to insuring the delivery of high quality services 
+to children and families. I hope this information has provided 
+a clear picture of our continued and more aggressive commitment 
+to improving program oversight and monitoring. We also look 
+forward to working with the Congress in the upcoming discussion 
+of Head Start reauthorization to explore statutory changes that 
+can enhance the secretary's flexibility to replace poorly 
+performing grantees.
+    In conclusion, I want to assure this Committee that the 
+President, the Department, and the Administration on Children 
+and Families are committed to strengthening the quality of Head 
+Start. We acknowledge that we can and must do better. I feel 
+confident that working together we will achieve that goal. 
+Thank you, and I would be pleased to answer any questions.
+    [The prepared statement of Mr. Horn follows:]
+
+Statement of Hon. Wade F. Horn, Assistant Secretary, Administration for 
+ Children and Families, U. S. Department of Health and Human Services, 
+                             Washington, DC
+
+    Chairman Boehner and members of the Committee, I am pleased to have 
+this opportunity to appear before you today to discuss the recent 
+report of the Government Accountability Office (GAO) on ``Head Start: 
+Comprehensive Approach to Identifying and Addressing Risks Could Help 
+Prevent Grantee Financial Management Weaknesses''. The President is 
+committed to strengthening the quality of Head Start to improve the 
+school readiness of low-income preschool children and has made 
+accountability a guiding principle of our work. Within this context, I 
+can assure you that we take GAO's findings very seriously and for 
+nearly two years we have been actively and aggressively engaged in 
+addressing the weaknesses cited in the report.
+    The Head Start program is now in its 40th year. It is a nearly $7 
+billion program, serving more than 900,000 low-income children and 
+families through a network of 1,600 local grantees. There are 212,000 
+staff employed in Head Start programs and more than 1.3 million persons 
+volunteer in local programs. Head Start children are served in nearly 
+50,000 classrooms located within more than 20,000 centers, which are 
+located in more than 3,000 counties nation-wide. Head Start is, in 
+short, a program that has wide ranging presence and influence. It ought 
+to be absolutely the best early childhood education program we can 
+design. As stewards of this program, we are committed to making that 
+goal a reality.
+    I will focus my testimony today on our ongoing efforts, as well as 
+some of our planned efforts, to improve program oversight and 
+stewardship. Several of GAO's findings mirror weaknesses we previously 
+identified and are actively working to resolve. Other suggestions in 
+the report will help us plan and implement additional strategies for 
+enhancing the quality and the credibility of the Head Start monitoring 
+system in order to ensure that all Head Start children receive the head 
+start they deserve.
+
+Head Start Monitoring
+    As discussed in the GAO report, we have several ongoing procedures 
+to examine program compliance and to measure results. Key among these 
+is the mandated, triennial, on-site monitoring of local programs. Under 
+the Head Start Act, each grantee must be monitored at the end of the 
+first year of operation and intensely at least once every three years 
+thereafter. These reviews are conducted by consultants with 
+professional expertise in their assigned area, under the direction of a 
+federal team leader. Most teams are composed of approximately six to 
+eight reviewers; additional reviewers may be assigned to review larger 
+or more complex programs.
+    Written reports containing findings from these reviews are provided 
+to each grantee and corrective action must be implemented by the 
+grantee. Programs identified as deficient must correct all deficiencies 
+within a prescribed period of time or we must seek to terminate the 
+grantee's authority to operate that Head Start program.
+    In fiscal year 2004, the Administration for Children and Families 
+(ACF) conducted triennial reviews of 570 programs. Eighty-nine of these 
+programs were identified as deficient. Each was issued a report by ACF 
+mandating correction of their deficiencies within a specified time 
+period, not to exceed one year. Any of these 89 grantees that do not 
+correct their deficiencies must have their grant terminated. In fiscal 
+year 2004, ACF replaced 20 grantees with unresolved fiscal and quality 
+issues.
+    Monitoring is one of our best opportunities to measure the quality 
+of Head Start programs. As federal stewards, we must use our monitoring 
+procedures to assure we are holding every Head Start program 
+accountable to all applicable statutes and regulations.
+    In the last several months, and consistent with many of the GAO's 
+observations and recommendations, ACF has implemented several efforts 
+to improve our monitoring.
+    First, we have established for the first time minimum 
+qualifications for all reviewers in the area they are reviewing. For 
+example, a reviewer wanting to do fiscal reviews must have a minimum of 
+a bachelor's degree with at least 12 credits in accounting, with a 
+preference for a degree in accounting. Establishing these minimum 
+qualifications helps assure that all individuals on a monitoring review 
+team have the knowledge, skills and experience necessary to be part of 
+a quality review. Reviewers not meeting these qualifications can no 
+longer participate in Head Start reviews. Qualified individuals must be 
+annually certified and meet our minimum requirements. Additional 
+individuals will be recruited, trained, mentored, and added to the 
+reviewer pool.
+    Second, we have implemented a formal assessment process in which 
+the federal team leaders and reviewers assess the performance of their 
+team members. These assessments are conducted after every review. 
+Assessment scores and comments are tracked for individuals over 
+multiple reviews. Reviewers with identified patterns of ``poor 
+performance'' are removed from the Head Start reviewer pool.
+    Third, in February and December 2004 we provided intensive, multi-
+day training for more than one thousand reviewers in the areas of 
+fiscal, program management, and early childhood development. We also 
+have provided and are continuing to provide professional development 
+for federal team leaders and federal grants staff. Training for team 
+members provides a very clear understanding of the nature of their 
+responsibilities as part of a monitoring team, and the important roles 
+they play in helping to assure a quality Head Start experience for 
+every child and family.
+    Additional training will be conducted later this year for reviewers 
+in the fields of health and nutrition services, disabilities services, 
+mental health services, and family and community partnerships. We feel 
+confident that these three changes will go a long way in helping us 
+assure that only qualified, skilled reviewers perform the vital role of 
+evaluating the comprehensiveness, local management, and quality of our 
+Head Start programs.
+    Soon we will implement a quality assurance initiative in which 
+specially trained reviewers will lead teams to conduct re-reviews of a 
+sample of recently monitored grantees. We believe this effort will 
+substantially address GAO's concern about consistency among reviewers 
+and across ACF regional offices. The re-review teams will go on-site to 
+grantees that have been monitored within the previous few months. A 
+second, complete monitoring review will take place and the results will 
+be evaluated by the Head Start Bureau. This will allow us to make 
+better-informed professional judgments about the reliability of our 
+current monitoring teams, including individual reviewers and federal 
+team leaders. We believe this approach also will allow us to achieve 
+more complete, more accurate, and more consistent monitoring outcomes.
+    In addition, we are conducting in-depth analyses of all triennial 
+and first year monitoring reports. The results of these analyses are 
+provided to regional administrators for regional quality assurance and 
+staff training. The Head Start Bureau has created a two-part strategy 
+to improve report quality, comprehensiveness, accuracy and uniformity 
+within and across regions. First, draft deficiency reports are analyzed 
+and reviewed for accuracy by the Head Start Bureau prior to release to 
+grantees, with the results and recommendations of these analyses sent 
+to the regional administrators. In the second part of this strategy the 
+Head Start Bureau has established standards for all other letters and 
+reports related to grantee monitoring.
+    Additionally, ACF is continuing our emphasis on improving each 
+grantee's fiscal viability. For example, the Fiscal Checklist, now used 
+by all fiscal reviewers, was substantially revised in fiscal year 2005 
+to use a ``risk-based'' assessment approach in alignment with GAO's 
+recommendation. The Fiscal Checklist includes a set of very specific, 
+prioritized indicators, or ``red flags'', designed to identify fiscal 
+issues which may suggest underlying fiscal problems. These indicators 
+focus on those areas or irregularities which are most likely to have 
+the greatest adverse impact on the fiscal accountability of the 
+grantee. Grantees whose indicators suggest current or possible future 
+problems will be subject to a more detailed review of their fiscal 
+systems and records to determine if there are indeed problems that 
+impact the grantee's fiscal operations and management.
+    Further, ACF is requiring the Program Review Instrument for Systems 
+Monitoring (PRISM) review teams to closely examine several specific 
+areas that were not as carefully or consistently considered in the 
+past. These include transportation services, condition and federal 
+interest in facilities, salaries and staff compensation, maintenance of 
+full enrollment, and income eligibility.
+    Also, in fiscal year 2005, ACF is emphasizing the conduct of 
+required grantee self-assessments. Grantees have been reminded that 
+conducting quality, comprehensive program self-assessments are critical 
+to ensuring the delivery of high-quality services to children and 
+families. Grantees must conduct accurate, comprehensive self-
+assessments building on information from the triennial federal 
+monitoring review to further program improvement, regularly identify 
+issues, correct problems, and improve services.
+
+GAO Recommendations
+    I hope this information has provided a clear picture of our 
+continued and more aggressive commitment to improving program 
+monitoring. This is a goal we have undertaken in earnest over the past 
+year. The GAO report synthesized many of the concerns we have had 
+regarding program weaknesses. This report affirms that we are on the 
+right track in strengthening our oversight and accountability efforts.
+    While my initial remarks today have provided some insight into our 
+responses to the GAO recommendations, I would like to take this 
+opportunity to briefly and specifically walk through each of the 
+recommendations in their report and our response.
+    I. (a) ACF should develop a strategy to produce a comprehensive 
+risk assessment of the Head Start program which would provide 
+reasonable assurance that a Head Start grantee's finances are 
+reasonably sound and that program objectives are being met.
+    We fully support the recommendation to develop a ``comprehensive 
+risk assessment'' of the Head Start program. We are looking to both the 
+HHS Office of Inspector General's Risk Assessment Protocol as well as 
+tools used by GAO that have been adopted by other agencies in ACF in 
+our efforts to develop this comprehensive risk assessment.
+    Over the next few months, we will continue developing an approach 
+that will allow us to identify, early on, grantees that have issues 
+that could suggest potential fiscal or programmatic problems. Beginning 
+with the indicators in the fiscal checklist, we will identify the 
+factors we should use in determining a grantee's fiscal and 
+programmatic accountability. We then will identify the data source or 
+sources we will use to consistently collect information about each of 
+the factors. Finally, we will determine the relative risks associated 
+with each of these factors and develop a rating system that tells us 
+when a grantee is at risk of heading down a path to larger fiscal or 
+programmatic problems. We believe that such a system will enable us to 
+identify at risk grantees while there is still time to work with them 
+and implement appropriate change.
+    1. (b) ACF should collect data on improper payments made by Head 
+Start grantees.
+    ACF will assure that grantees are held accountable for improper 
+payments made with Head Start grant funds. For example, this year 
+monitoring teams will be looking more carefully and more systematically 
+at the way grantees expend all of their Head Start funds. Also, we are 
+continuing our strong focus on improper payments begun last year by 
+visiting 50 randomly chosen grantees to review grantees' enrollment 
+files and determine whether they are serving only children who are 
+eligible for Head Start.
+    As an additional strategy for examining improper payments, we have 
+begun rigorously enforcing the new requirement enacted by Congress to 
+cap the compensation of Head Start staff. We will move to disallow 
+costs expended by a Head Start grantee when they are in violation of 
+this cap. Further, we will continue our efforts to assure all grantees 
+are serving the full number of children for which they have been funded 
+by holding grantees accountable for upholding all terms and conditions 
+of their grant award. Grantees failing to do so will see their funding 
+levels reduced.
+    II. ACF should train and certify all PRISM reviewers.
+    As I discussed earlier, over the last several months, we provided 
+PRISM training to federal team leaders and to fiscal, program design 
+and management, and early childhood consultants. ACF has and will 
+continue to schedule additional training events for consultants in 
+other areas of expertise to ensure that all reviewers have appropriate 
+training. ACF agrees with GAO that reviewer training needs to be 
+provided regularly and designed to assure reviewers have the knowledge 
+and appropriate understanding of their roles in assisting ACF in 
+determining the management and quality of our Head Start programs.
+    III. ACF should develop an approach to assess the results of PRISM 
+reviews and ensure consistency among Regional Offices.
+    ACF's Head Start Bureau is continuing an effort begun last year in 
+which all monitoring reports to be issued by the regional offices are 
+reviewed and critiqued, providing feedback to the regions about the 
+quality, comprehensiveness and accuracy of these reports and related 
+letters to grantees. We also are analysing data from monitoring 
+findings and discussing areas of inconsistency within and across our 
+regional offices. When regional data indicate inconsistencies in the 
+number and types of problems found in Head Start grantees, we are 
+working more closely with those regional offices to uncover the reasons 
+for the inconsistencies and be certain they do not reoccur.
+    As mentioned earlier, in fiscal year 2005, ACF will be implementing 
+a quality assurance system in which a selected number of programs will 
+be ``re-reviewed'' a few months after their regularly scheduled PRISM 
+review. This is another method that will help us achieve greater 
+consistency across regions and among reviewers. Further, ACF is 
+supportive of legislative change that can provide the Administration 
+increased flexibility to use the best team leaders available for a 
+particular review by not requiring every team leader to be a federal 
+employee.
+    We want to acknowledge our agreement with the GAO, that for too 
+many years we have relied too heavily on a grantee's self-certification 
+that serious non-compliances have been corrected. There may be some 
+situations in which such certifications are sufficient; however, 
+reliance on this practice for ensuring grantee corrective action must 
+be dramatically reduced. Therefore, ACF is significantly increasing the 
+use of on-site visits to verify corrective actions. These site visits 
+will focus on whether the grantee has made systemic, sustainable 
+changes to reduce the possibility of repeating problems in the future. 
+This approach also will help regional offices more consistently assess 
+a grantee's success in correcting identified problems in both the short 
+and the long term.
+    IV. (a) ACF should implement a quality assurance system to assure 
+on-site reviews are being conducted as intended to provide ACF with 
+objective and accurate data about grantees.
+    As noted above, in fiscal year 2005, ACF will be implementing a 
+quality assurance system designed to enhance consistency and quality 
+among both regional offices and reviewers. Specially trained review 
+teams made up of some of the best reviewers in the country will visit 
+grantees that have been monitored within the last few months. A 
+complete monitoring review will take place; the results of which will 
+be shared with the responsible ACF regional office. This process will 
+allow us to make more informed, professional judgments about the 
+reliability of our current monitoring teams; including individual 
+reviewers and federal team leaders. We believe this approach will help 
+enhance the process of achieving more complete, more accurate, and more 
+consistent monitoring outcomes.
+    4. (b) ACF should assure the accuracy of its data collection forms.
+    ACF and others rely upon the annual Program Information Report 
+(PIR) and other data. We will, therefore, continue to explore ways to 
+increase the accuracy of the PIR and other data sources. We will, for 
+example, initiate an effort this year in which we will visit randomly 
+selected Head Start programs to conduct a validation study of the data 
+reported on the PIR. We also initiated procedures to assure that the 
+information grantees report on their required salary comparability 
+studies is accurate and current. In addition, Head Start staff 
+currently is working with ACF information technology staff to develop a 
+single, integrated database that will contain all the current Head 
+Start data sources. This integrated database will allow us to take a 
+comprehensive approach to examining the management, fiscal and 
+programmatic status of Head Start grantees.
+    V. ACF should make greater use of information currently available 
+to regional offices to more quickly identify potential risks.
+    ACF will make more complete use of all data sources available to us 
+to assure we are able to identify risks as quickly as possible. Central 
+and regional offices will jointly develop specific protocols to assure 
+that we are making full and timely use of the fiscal and other data 
+available.
+    VI. ACF should recompete Head Start grants when the current 
+recipient has not met its obligations in the areas of program or 
+financial management.
+    ACF is looking forward to working with the Congress in the upcoming 
+discussions on Head Start reauthorization to explore changes to the Act 
+that can enhance the Secretary's flexibility to replace poorly 
+performing grantees. Without such statutory changes, we do not believe 
+we can implement GAO's proposed recommendation in this area. It is our 
+position that, because of current statutory language there can be 
+lengthy delays before we can replace the grantee in charge of Head 
+Start operations in that community.
+    More specifically, we would like to work with this Committee to 
+amend language in the current Head Start Act which provides current 
+grantees with priority consideration for funding and which requires 
+grantees to be given a hearing before being replaced, no matter how 
+poor their operations and performance may be. We believe the current 
+system makes it unnecessarily time consuming and difficult to remove 
+grantees which are not responsibly delivering comprehensive, quality 
+services. Like GAO, we are particularly dismayed by the increasing 
+number of grantees with recurring problems that fail to correct or only 
+temporarily correct areas of non-compliance and deficiencies. We look 
+forward to working with Congress to give HHS the ability to quickly 
+remove poor performing grantees so that we are providing the best 
+quality services possible to Head Start children.
+
+Additional Program Improvement Efforts
+    I would like to close my remarks by sharing with this Committee 
+several other efforts the Administration is engaged in designed to 
+improve grantee quality and accountability. Foremost among these is 
+working with this Committee and this Congress to pass a Head Start 
+reauthorization bill which will send a clear message that all Head 
+Start grantees are expected, at all times, to deliver high quality 
+services to every enrolled child and family.
+    First, we would like the Congress to help us increase the 
+involvement of selected states in Head Start as we move to increase 
+coordination between Head Start, state pre-K programs, and child care 
+services. Second, we would like the Congress to provide the Secretary 
+with greater discretion to use funds appropriated for Head Start in the 
+most effective manner possible by enacting changes to the current 
+statutory set-aside for training and technical assistance. Third, we 
+would like the statute to more clearly state the expectation that all 
+children should leave Head Start prepared for school and that the 
+standards for school readiness are being met. Fourth, we would like 
+increased flexibility in the make-up of our monitoring teams so that we 
+always can send out the most qualified individuals for the job. And 
+fifth, we would like to work with Congress to ensure that the statute 
+allows us to deal with poorly performing grantees fairly but 
+expeditiously.
+    In addition to these proposed statutory changes, I would like to 
+close by sharing information about one other training and technical 
+assistance project which, although not directly related to monitoring, 
+plays an important role in assuring grantees are providing high quality 
+services to the communities they serve. We are in the second year of a 
+new training and technical assistance (T/TA) system that we believe 
+will help improve grantee quality and, by so doing, address some of the 
+underlying issues raised by GAO. We have, for the first time, hired T/
+TA specialists who are assigned to work on a regular basis with 
+individual grantees. These specialists will help grantees identify T/TA 
+needs and appropriate ways of meeting these needs. They will visit 
+their assigned grantees several times a year to focus on improving 
+grantees. The local specialists are supported by a team of content 
+experts in each regional office to provide guidance to grantees and to 
+support the local specialists in their technical assistance work within 
+programs.
+
+Conclusion
+    In conclusion, I can assure this Committee that the President, the 
+Department and ACF are committed to strengthening the quality of Head 
+Start. In keeping with the findings of this GAO report-we can do 
+better. The Administration for Children and Families will continue to 
+improve program oversight to ensure program quality and effectiveness. 
+At the same time, we look forward to working with you to make 
+appropriate changes to Head Start's legislation that will hold all 
+grantees accountable for all requirements and for providing quality 
+service. I feel confident that together we will achieve these goals.
+    Thank you. I would be happy to answer any questions.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    Chairman Boehner. Ms. Henry. Welcome. You may begin.
+
+
+ STATEMENT OF PAMELA HENRY, JR., HEAD START PARENT, LAS VEGAS, 
+                               NV
+
+    Ms. Henry. Thank you. Good afternoon, Chairman Boehner, 
+Representative Miller, and Members of the Committee. My name is 
+Pamela Ann Henry Jr., and I am honored for this opportunity to 
+share my experience as a parent and former chair of the Head 
+Start and early Head Start policy Council for the Economic 
+Opportunity Board, Clark County. EOB is the Head Start grantee 
+in Las Vegas, Nevada.
+    I may not have a Ph.D. or be a high ranking government 
+official, but I can tell you firsthand the importance of Head 
+Start to a parent and what is happening, and in some cases, not 
+happening in my Head Start program. I am a foster/adoptive 
+parent that cares for children with special needs between the 
+ages of birth and 5 years of age. Since 2001, my husband and I 
+have been affiliated with the Head Start and Early Head Start 
+program as active parents, and I, with the policy council as a 
+center representative and later chair for the EOB in Clark 
+County.
+    Policy counsels are required by Head Start regulations to 
+assist with program governance that include parents, community 
+representatives and liaisons from the executive board. The 
+topic of today's hearing is a recent report by the Government 
+Accountability Office, or the GAO, which found Federal 
+oversights to be inadequate to swiftly identify and correct 
+financial mismanagement of Head Start grantees. I have just 
+three messages for the Committee today. No. 1, too much time 
+can go by from the time problems start to the time they are 
+fixed. Many times they go unrecognized. But even worse, there 
+is no incentive to fix problems quickly because grantees are 
+not held accountable for correcting these problems.
+    Number 2, the Federal Government shouldn't let bad grantees 
+continue to operate bad programs. Like the three-strikes-you-
+are-out policy, at a certain point enough should be enough.
+    No. 3, policy counsels and other governing boards at the 
+local levels should matter. Often times these boards are not 
+given a real opportunity to be involved, but they should be. I 
+will elaborate briefly on each of these points. The GAO report 
+was requested by Congress after reports of misuse of Head Start 
+funds were printed in newspapers around the country. 
+Unfortunately the grantee over the center where my children 
+attend Head Start is one such case. I know most Head Start 
+programs are good, so why focus on a few bad ones? There may be 
+many others who don't have these problems, but even if just one 
+program has problems, they should be fixed.
+    The EOB Community Action Partnership is the largest private 
+non-profit social service organization in Nevada. EOB has nine 
+service divisions that administer 40 programs intended to 
+assist 55,000 area residents each year. EOB receives over $12 
+million annually to prepare 1,700 children, including mine for 
+kindergarten. In 2003 and 2004, EOB was cited as a high risk 
+grantee by the Head Start Bureau. Yet, as I learned later, the 
+board had been deemed a deficient grantee in several important 
+areas for many years.
+    For example, EOB had been cited repeatedly for inaccurate 
+accounting practices, yet no corrective action seemed to be 
+initiated by the Federal Government or the Agency itself.
+    In 2003 I was involved with the annual review process 
+conducted by the Region IX staff. I accompanied the EOB 
+executive director and other agency administrators. EOB was 
+instructed to develop a corrective action plan after its review 
+identified multiple deficiencies. The policy council was 
+initially involved in the drafting of the corrective action 
+plan, but in the end, the senior managers and other agencies 
+approved a different plan without our input. The policy council 
+expressed concern both to the executive active team and the HHS 
+Region IX staff, but our concerns were dismissed. This was very 
+discouraging. As policy council chair, I emerged a stronger 
+leader and advocate for the Head Start and gained the 
+confidence to stand my ground and fight a fight for what I felt 
+was right for the eligible children enrolled and their 
+families.
+    And then at the local level, many Head Start boards are 
+agreeing to actions taken by administrators. There is no 
+independent review or checks and balances--no accountability 
+for the administrators because in most cases, there is no 
+responsibility assumed by the executive board.
+    A dysfunctional senior management and grantee board at EOB 
+triggered multiple concerns that I shared with the Region IX 
+representative. While in the position as PC chair, the program 
+had been deemed high risk due to several noncompliance matters. 
+But one of the most important factors is what the GAO has 
+stated in their recent report, mismanagement of program funds, 
+along with continuous deficiencies.
+    By the end of my third year, there had been several reviews 
+and audits. With the right accountability in place, 
+mismanagement of funds could have been avoided. However, those 
+involved were never held responsible for their misconduct for 
+such funds. The EOB never felt as though the grant was 
+threatened, or that they could do anything that would lead to 
+the termination of their funding. In such cases, an 
+organization other than EOB should have been given millions of 
+dollars taken for granted by this grantee.
+    The GAO report recommends that poorly performing grantees 
+should come compete against other entities for their grant. In 
+the case of EOB, another organization might have been more 
+qualified to manage the Head Start program. I am done. Thank 
+you. I am sorry.
+    [The prepared statement of Ms. Henry follows:]
+
+    Statement of Pamela Henry, Jr., Head Start Parent, Las Vegas, NV
+
+    Good Afternoon Chairman Boehner, Representative Miller, and Members 
+of the Committee. My name is Pamela Henry, and I am honored for this 
+opportunity to share my experience as a parent and former Chair of the 
+Head Start Policy Council of the Economic Opportunity Board (EOB). EOB 
+is the Head Start grantee in Las Vegas, Nevada.
+    I may not have a Ph.D., or be a high-ranking government official, 
+but I can tell you first hand the importance of Head Start to a parent 
+and what is happening--and in some cases not happening--in my Head 
+Start program.
+    I am a foster/adoptive parent that cares for children with special 
+needs between the ages of birth and 5 years. Since 2001, my husband and 
+I have been affiliated with the Head Start & Early Head Start Program 
+as active parents and I, with the Policy Council as a Center 
+Representative and later Chair, for EOB in Clark County. Policy 
+Councils are required by Head Start regulations to assist with program 
+governance and include parents, community representatives, and a 
+liaison from the Executive Board.
+    The topic of today's hearing is a recent report by the Government 
+Accountability Office--or GAO--which found federal oversight to be 
+inadequate to swiftly identify and correct financial mismanagement by 
+Head Start grantees.
+    I have just three messages for the Committee today:
+    I. Too much time can go by from the time problems start to the time 
+they are fixed. Many times, they go unrecognized. But even worse, 
+there's no incentive to fix problems quickly because grantees are not 
+held accountable for correcting these problems.
+    II. The federal government shouldn't let bad grantees continue to 
+operate bad programs. Like the three strikes you're out policy, at a 
+certain point, enough should be enough.
+    III. Policy Councils and other governing boards at the local level 
+should matter. Often times these boards are NOT given a real 
+opportunity to be involved, but they should be.
+    I will elaborate briefly on each of these points.
+    The GAO report was requested by Congress after reports of misuse of 
+Head Start funds were printed in newspapers around the country. 
+Unfortunately, the grantee over the center where my children attend 
+Head Start, is one such case.
+    I know most Head Start programs are good. So why focus on a few bad 
+ones? There may be many, many others who don't have these problems, but 
+even if just one program has problems, they should be fixed!
+    The EOB Community Action Partnership is the largest private, non-
+profit social service organization in Nevada. EOB has nine (9) service 
+divisions and administers forty (40) programs intended to assist 55,000 
+area residents each year. EOB receives over $12 million dollars 
+annually to prepare 1,700 children, including mine, for kindergarten. 
+In 2003-4, the EOB was cited as a high-risk grantee by the Head Start 
+Bureau. Yet, as I later learned, the Board had been deemed a deficient 
+grantee in several important areas for many years. For example, the EOB 
+had been cited repeatedly for inadequate accounting practices yet no 
+corrective action seemed to be initiated by the federal government or 
+the agency itself.
+    In August 2003, I was involved in the triennial review process 
+conducted by the Regional IX staff. I accompanied the EOB executive 
+director and other agency administrators. EOB was instructed to develop 
+a corrective action plan after its review identified multiple 
+deficiencies. The Policy Council was initially involved in drafting the 
+corrective action plan but in the end, the senior managers of the 
+agency approved a different plan without our input. The Policy Council 
+expressed concern to both the Executive Team and HHS Region IX staff 
+but our concerns were dismissed. This was very discouraging.
+    As Policy Council Chair, I emerged a stronger leader and advocate 
+for Head Start and gained the confidence to stand my ground and fight a 
+fight for what I felt was right for the eligible children enrolled and 
+their families. At the local level, many Head Start boards are agreeing 
+to all actions taken by the administrators--there is not independent 
+review or checks and balances. No accountability for the administrators 
+because in most cases there's no responsibility assumed by the 
+Executive Board.
+    A dysfunctional Senior Management and the Grantee Board at EOB 
+triggered multiple concerns that I shared with the Region IX 
+Representative. While in the position as PC Chair the program had been 
+deemed as high-risk due several non-compliance matters, but one of the 
+most important factors is what the GAO has stated in their recent 
+report, mismanagement of program funds, along with continuous 
+deficiencies.
+    By the end of my third year there had been several reviews and 
+audits. With the right accountability in place, the mismanagement of 
+the funds could have been avoided. However, those involved were never 
+held responsible for the misconduct of such funds. Unfortunately, the 
+EOB never felt as though their grant was threatened or that they could 
+do anything that would lead to the termination of their funding. In 
+such cases, an organization other than EOB should have been given the 
+millions of dollars taken for granted by this grantee.
+    The GAO report recommends that poorly performing grantees should 
+compete against other entities for their grants. In the case of EOB 
+another organization might have been more qualified to manage the Head 
+Start program.
+    Members of the Policy Council had little confidence that an 
+adequate corrective action plan was put into place or that Region IX 
+administrators would return to EOB to ensure that changes we 
+successfully implemented. Under the current system, grantees must self-
+certify that deficiencies have been corrected and the federal 
+government takes the grantee at their word. Yet, according to the GAO 
+report, and consistent with the experience at EOB, problems cited 
+continued to be problems for multiple review cycles.
+    If Regional manager's performance was tied to the improvement and 
+performance of the programs for which they were responsible, many Head 
+Start programs would improve. The Regional IX manager's job apparently 
+was not judged by the success or failure of the grantees under his or 
+her control and so there was no incentive to improve the situation. 
+Furthermore, it seems many Regional managers believe it is more trouble 
+to go through the grantee termination process than to just recommend a 
+grant be re-funded, even when the manager knows it's not in the best 
+interest of Head Start.
+    Regional managers should be held accountable for bringing a program 
+back into compliance and help support grantees in that process or be 
+liable for letting a program be deemed deficient over and over again. 
+We must remember that this is for the children and low-income families, 
+and as our current President says, ``no child shall be left behind!''
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    Chairman Boehner. That is all right. Thank you, Ms. Henry. 
+I know it is rather daunting to have to show up and speak 
+before all of us and those people behind you, but you did a 
+very nice job.
+    Dr. Golden.
+
+
+    STATEMENT OF OLIVIA GOLDEN, Ph.D., SENIOR FELLOW, URBAN 
+                   INSTITUTE, WASHINGTON, DC
+
+    Dr. Golden. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, Congressman 
+Miller and Members of the Committee. I am honored to appear 
+before you today. My perspective on Head Start and on tough and 
+effective management has been shaped by experiences as a 
+researcher and a practitioner at the Federal, State and local 
+levels, as you heard in the Chairman's introduction. I spent 8 
+years at HHS, including 3 as Assistant Secretary for Children 
+and Families. And in 1993, I was a member of the Bipartisan 
+Advisory Committee on Head Start quality and expansion, 
+including members from both parties, staff to this Committee.
+    The advisory committee's unanimous final report provided a 
+rigorous blueprint for quality, including strengthening Federal 
+oversight. As a result of reforms put in place by HHS and the 
+Congress, beginning with the advisory committee, the 1994 Head 
+Start Reauthorization and the 1996 publication of tough and 
+research-based performance standards, Head Start has the most 
+rigorous standards and the most intensive monitoring of any 
+human services program that I am aware of. This emphasis on the 
+accountability paid off in clear results during the late 
+1990's. As the GAO report indicates, a historically 
+unprecedented 144 grantees were terminated or relinquished 
+their grants between 1993 and 2001. GAOs report provides useful 
+next steps for Federal oversight that build on these earlier 
+reforms. But before turning to my suggestions for implementing 
+GAO's recommendations, I would like to highlight two themes 
+from the research which my written testimony provides more 
+detail on. First, Head Start serves extremely vulnerable 
+children and families who experience multiple and complex 
+problems. You just heard about children with special needs.
+    Second, Head Start programs make a positive difference for 
+these very disadvantaged children and their family. Research 
+demonstrates both Head Start's positive results in terms of 
+children's learning and the generally high quality of local 
+programs. To me, these themes underline the importance of 
+accountability in Head Start. Federal oversight must live up to 
+the crucial importance of Head Start's mission.
+    Let me turn now to the five suggestions for strong Federal 
+oversight that are detailed in my written testimony. These 
+suggestions draw on my experience raising the bar on 
+accountability during the 1990's, both lessons about what works 
+and lessons about what is persistently difficult. The central 
+theme is that holding Head Start programs to high standards, 
+including closing those that can't meet the standards, can be 
+done with strong focused and hands on Federal oversight.
+    Lesson one, the foundation for strong Federal oversight and 
+results for children is the tough, rigorous and research-based 
+requirements of the Head Start performance statistics. As a 
+result of the Advisory Committee's recommendations and the 1994 
+reauthorization, we thoroughly revamped and strengthened the 
+performance standards in 1996 bringing them into line with the 
+latest research. So many of the vigorous fiscal standards that 
+GAO is now looking at are in place now because of this reform. 
+Rigorous standards are especially important because emerging 
+research that strong implementation of the standards is linked 
+to better results for children.
+    Lesson two, terminating grantees and aggressively 
+negotiating relinquishments are important steps for HHS to take 
+when a grantee cannot successfully resolve its problems. Hands 
+on leadership is key. Stronger authority for HHS to terminate 
+grantees who can't meet standards was in the 1994 
+reauthorization and the 1996 regulations. As GAO indicated in 
+its 1998 report, HHS moved quickly and aggressively to use this 
+new authority. My own experience was that personal and hands-on 
+involvement helped make it happen. In one example, I flew to 
+Denver to speak with parents and board members about the 
+gravity of our monitoring findings so they could make a more 
+informed choice about whether to relinquish the grant.
+    Lesson three, continuity for successful grantees is just as 
+important as turnover for unsuccessful grantees. Because for a 
+Head Start program to do a truly excellent job of linking 
+children to services in a community takes time, consistency and 
+relationships among partners developed and sustained over many 
+years. This means that strong technical assistance to keep 
+successful programs on track is a critical partner to strong 
+monitoring. It also means that recompetition of Head Start 
+grants should be limited to unsuccessful programs.
+    Two more lessons. The Federal oversight strategy needs to 
+integrate fiscal accountability and program accountability at 
+every stage. And Assistant Secretary Horn spoke to that in 
+speaking of training. And finally, the oversight strategy must 
+include a focus on Federal staff in both central office and the 
+regions, including training and professional development.
+    In conclusion, for 40 years, the Head Start program has 
+played a critical role for the Nation's most impoverished and 
+vulnerable children, continuing to evolve and innovate in 
+response to family needs. For Head Start to continue its 
+success requires an equally strong innovative and vigorous 
+Federal oversight role. I want to thank the Committee for your 
+commitment over many years and I look forward to any questions 
+that you may have.
+    [The prepared statement of Dr. Golden follows:]
+
+ Statement of Olivia A. Golden, Ph.D., Senior Fellow, Urban Institute, 
+                             Washington, DC
+
+    Mr. Chairman, Congressman Miller, and members of the committee, my 
+name is Olivia Golden, and I am currently Senior Fellow and Director of 
+the Assessing the New Federalism project (a multi-year, nationwide 
+study of low-income children and families) at the Urban Institute, a 
+nonprofit, nonpartisan research institute in Washington, D.C.\1\ I am 
+honored by the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss the 
+Head Start program, effective strategies for federal monitoring, and 
+the content and recommendations of the GAO's recent report regarding a 
+Comprehensive Approach to Identifying and Addressing Risks.
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+    \1\ The views expressed in this testimony are those of the author 
+and should not be attributed to the Urban Institute, its trustees, its 
+employees, or its funders.
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+    My perspective on Head Start, on programs that serve low-income 
+children and families, and on tough and effective management to support 
+accountability has been shaped by my experiences as a researcher and a 
+practitioner at the federal, state and local levels. Immediately before 
+coming to the Urban Institute, I directed the District of Columbia's 
+Child and Family Services Agency. Before that, I spent eight years at 
+the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, as Commissioner for 
+the Administration on Children, Youth, and Families and then as 
+Assistant Secretary for Children and Families. During those eight 
+years, I was a member or chair of three expert committees charting the 
+future of Head Start. In 1993, I was a member of the bipartisan 
+Advisory Committee on Head Start Quality and Expansion, which included 
+both majority and minority staff to this Committee as well as staff 
+from both parties to three other House and Senate committees. The 
+Advisory Committee's unanimous Final Report provided extensive 
+recommendations, including a rigorous blueprint for monitoring program 
+and fiscal quality and strengthening federal oversight capacity. In 
+1994, I chaired the Advisory Committee on Services for Families with 
+Infants and Toddlers, which created the overall design for Early Head 
+Start. And in 1999, I chaired the Advisory Committee on Head Start 
+Research and Evaluation, which provided an overall framework for the 
+design of the Head Start impact study. We are all eagerly awaiting the 
+first report from that study.
+    In my testimony today, I will focus primarily on effective 
+strategies for building the strongest possible federal oversight role 
+to support high-quality, fiscally accountable, programmatically 
+successful, and well-managed Head Start programs across the country. As 
+a result of reforms put in place by HHS and the Congress--beginning 
+with the bipartisan 1993 Head Start Advisory Committee, the 1994 Head 
+Start reauthorization, and the 1996 publication of tough, research-
+based performance standards and continuing across two administrations--
+Head Start has the most rigorous standards and the most intensive 
+monitoring of any human services program that I am aware of. This 
+emphasis on accountability by HHS and the Congress paid off in clear 
+quality control results during the late 1990's: for example, as the GAO 
+report indicates, 144 grantees were terminated or relinquished their 
+grants between 1993 and 2001, a historically unprecedented number.
+    GAO's report provides useful next steps for the federal oversight 
+role that build on these earlier reforms. The report does not, however, 
+provide a clear picture of the number or proportion of Head Start 
+programs with serious fiscal problems, because it shows the percentage 
+of programs with even one monitoring finding, rather than grouping 
+programs by frequency or severity of findings. Based on the Head Start 
+Bureau's annual monitoring reports, about 15 percent of grantees have 
+serious problems, including both programmatic and fiscal problems. 
+Whatever the current numbers, any serious failures in fiscal 
+accountability need to be forcefully addressed.
+    The GAO report contributes to this effort by identifying gaps in 
+federal oversight--in particular, how the federal implementation of 
+monitoring doesn't live up to the rigorous design--and by providing 
+practical recommendations for improvement. The implementation 
+challenges highlighted in the report -'' such as effective use of early 
+warning information, consistent decision-making across central office 
+and the regions, and closing ineffective programs on a prompt timetable 
+yet with appropriate due process--are not limited to any one 
+Administration or even to one program. In my own experiences both with 
+Head Start monitoring and with designing and implementing monitoring 
+systems for other programs and at other levels of government, these 
+same challenges have arisen. For that reason, I believe that the GAO's 
+practical recommendations for next steps are particularly useful and 
+that thoughtful implementation of these recommendations, with some 
+additional suggestions and modifications that I suggest below, should 
+help Head Start programs live up to the very highest levels of 
+accountability.
+
+Why Accountability Matters: The Research Context and the Role of Head 
+        Start
+    Before turning to these specific suggestions about monitoring, I 
+would like to highlight briefly two broader themes from the research. 
+To me, these themes ``- (1) that Head Start serves extraordinarily 
+vulnerable children and families and (2) that it makes a positive 
+difference for them ``- underline the whole reason accountability is so 
+important. In a program with such a critical mission, and such a 
+history of success for the most vulnerable children in good times and 
+bad, we must ensure that federal oversight lives up to the importance 
+of the mission, both demanding and supporting strong programs.
+    First, Head Start serves extremely vulnerable children and 
+families, who experience considerable disadvantage and often multiple 
+and complex problems. Children enrolled in Head Start may suffer from 
+various health conditions and disabilities, live in families that have 
+difficulty finding and keeping stable housing, and experience violence 
+in their families and neighborhoods. For these children, improved 
+learning and cognitive development require extremely high-quality 
+services that follow the comprehensive model laid out in the Head Start 
+performance standards.
+    For example, a survey of a nationally representative sample of Head 
+Start families in 2000 found that 25 percent of parents were moderately 
+or severely depressed, more than 20 percent of parents had witnessed 
+violent crime, and parents reported that almost 10 percent of their 
+children had witnessed domestic violence in the last year. According to 
+the researchers, ``preliminary findings suggest that Head Start may 
+play a role in protecting children from the negative outcomes 
+associated with family risk factors, including maternal depression, 
+exposure to violence, alcohol use, and involvement in the criminal 
+justice system.'' \2\
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+    \2\ Administration for Children and Families, Office of Planning, 
+Research, and Evaluation. April 2003. Executive Summary for Head Start 
+FACES 2000: A Whole-Child Perspective on Program Performance, p. 8.
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+    Second, Head Start programs overall make a positive difference for 
+these very disadvantaged young children and their families. Both past 
+and recent research, such as the rigorous, random assignment evaluation 
+of Early Head Start, demonstrate Head Start's positive results for 
+children and the generally high quality of its programs when observed 
+and compared with other early childhood programs. For example,
+      A rigorous, randomized assignment evaluation of Early 
+Head Start found that compared to a control group, 3-year-olds who had 
+attended Early Head Start had higher average scores and a smaller 
+percentage at-risk in language development, higher average scores and a 
+smaller percentage at-risk on tests of cognitive development, and 
+better home environments and parenting practices (for example, more 
+reading to young children).\3\
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+    \3\ Administration for Children and Families. June 2002. Making a 
+Difference in the Lives of Infants and Toddlers and Their Families: The 
+Impacts of Early Head Start. Executive Summary, pp. 3-4.
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+      Studies of Head Start using a variety of methods (for 
+example, comparing siblings who have been in Head Start with those who 
+have not) also show positive results for children. Soon, the results of 
+the random assignment study of Head Start--designed by the committee I 
+chaired in 1999 -'' will be released. This study should provide more 
+up-to-date information about the effects of Head Start for today's 
+children, compared with being in other programs or at home.
+      When researchers score Head Start classrooms across the 
+country using standard indicators, they generally find them good and 
+quite consistent in quality. A recent study that observed classrooms in 
+six state pre-k programs found that the overall quality of these 
+classrooms was lower than in similar observational studies of Head 
+Start.\4\
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+    \4\ Donna Bryant, Dick Clifford, Diane Early, and Loyd Little. 
+2005. ``Who Are the Pre-K Teachers? What Are Pre-K Classrooms Like?'' 
+Early Developments 9(1): 15-19. Published by the FPG Child Development 
+Institute at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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+      Low-income children are less likely than higher-income 
+children to get the benefits of high quality pre-school or child care 
+settings. This disparity would be far greater without Head Start, 
+especially for the poorest children. Research conducted through the 
+Assessing the New Federalism project at the Urban Institute has found 
+that low-income 3- and 4-year-olds are less likely to be in center-
+based care (including preschool) than higher-income children. Because 
+of the research evidence suggesting that quality center-based care can 
+help children prepare for school, the researchers conclude that this 
+``disparity''.may represent a missed opportunity to assist low-income 
+children in becoming school-ready.'' \5\
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+    \5\ Jeff Capizzano and Gina Adams, 2003. ``Children in Low-Income 
+Families Are Less Likely to Be in Center-Based Child Care.'' Snapshots 
+of America's Families III, No. 16. Washington, DC: The Urban Institute, 
+p. 2.
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+The Accountability Agenda: Lessons from Experience
+    The reforms in Head Start quality and accountability that were 
+driven by the bipartisan Advisory Committee of 1993 and the Head Start 
+reauthorizations of 1994 and 1998 provide a very rich source of lessons 
+about strong federal oversight -- both what works and what issues are 
+perennially difficult and need to be revisited often. The central theme 
+is that holding Head Start programs to high standards, including 
+closing those that can't meet the standards, can be done. It takes 
+strong, focused, and hands-on federal oversight that includes both 
+monitoring and technical assistance.
+    The reforms grew out of the widespread concern that after several 
+years of expanding the number of children served in Head Start without 
+corresponding investment in program quality or in the training and 
+development of federal staff, the quality of local Head Start programs, 
+while generally good, had become uneven. The charge of the 1993 
+Advisory Committee--whose members in addition to Congressional staff 
+from both parties and both houses included experts with experience in 
+academia, the federal government, state and local early childhood 
+programs, and the broader health and education worlds -'' was to 
+provide recommendations for both improvement and expansion that would 
+reaffirm Head Start's vision of excellence for every child. The 
+extensive and specific recommendations in the unanimous report covered 
+every area of quality improvement, from local programs to federal 
+staff. Many of the recommendations were incorporated into the 1994 
+Congressional reauthorization of Head Start, and others were 
+implemented by HHS without requiring legislative authority.
+    Five specific lessons from this experience seem to me particularly 
+important as Congress and the Administration consider implementing the 
+GAO's recommendations:
+    1. The foundation for strong federal oversight--and of results for 
+children--is the tough, rigorous, and research-based requirements of 
+the Head Start performance standards.
+    The Advisory Committee recommended and the 1994 Head Start 
+Reauthorization required a major overhaul of the Head Start regulations 
+that define what is expected of local programs (regulations that are 
+known as the Head Start Performance Standards) to raise the bar for the 
+quality of both service delivery and management. The final regulations, 
+published in 1996, thoroughly revamped and strengthened the performance 
+standards across many dimensions. For example, they:
+      raised standards for program management, including fiscal 
+accountability and governance;
+      brought standards for service delivery into line with the 
+latest research; and
+      created new standards which had not existed before for 
+the quality of services to infants and toddlers.
+    Thus, many of the rigorous fiscal, board governance, and reporting 
+standards discussed in the GAO report are in place now because of this 
+important revision of the performance standards. For example, as part 
+of their fiscal and governance standards Head Start programs are 
+expected to ensure that their governing board and the parent policy 
+council approve funding applications and review the annual audit.
+    Rigorous standards are important not only because they hold 
+programs accountable and form the basis of a coherent monitoring 
+strategy but also because emerging research suggests a link between 
+strong implementation of the standards and positive results for 
+children. As part of the Early Head Start evaluation mentioned above, 
+researchers assessed program implementation of key elements of the 
+performance standards during in-depth site visits. They found evidence 
+that ``full implementation [of the performance standards] contributes 
+to a stronger pattern of impacts.'' \6\
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+    \6\ Administration for Children and Families (June 2002), p.6.
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+    2. Terminating grantees and aggressively negotiating 
+relinquishments are appropriate, important, and realistic steps for HHS 
+to take when a grantee cannot successfully resolve its problems and 
+meet fiscal and program standards. Hands-on leadership is key to using 
+this authority effectively.
+    Stronger authority for HHS to terminate grantees who cannot meet 
+standards was recommended by the 1993 Advisory Board and included in 
+the 1994 Head Start Reauthorization. As a result, the 1996 revision of 
+the performance standards provided a framework and a tight time limit 
+``- no more than one year--for grantees with serious problems (called 
+``deficiencies'') to solve those problems or face termination. As GAO 
+indicated in its 1998 report assessing HHS oversight soon after the 
+regulations, the agency moved quickly and aggressively to use this new 
+authority, with 90 grantees terminated or voluntarily relinquishing 
+their grants by the time of the 1998 report. The GAO report also noted 
+the experience of HHS officials that the termination authority helps 
+them negotiate voluntary relinquishments, which can be the quickest and 
+smoothest path to a transition.
+    While I was at HHS, I found that hands-on involvement from agency 
+leadership was very helpful in reinforcing the new expectations. In one 
+example, I flew to Denver to speak with parents and Board members about 
+the gravity of our monitoring findings, so they could make a more 
+informed choice about whether the grantee should relinquish the grant 
+in order to achieve better services for children. In that example, the 
+grantee relinquished the grant, and a transitional grantee ensured that 
+services to children continued uninterrupted while the grant was 
+recompeted.
+    GAO recommends in its report an additional approach, besides 
+termination and relinquishment, to ensure the replacement of grantees 
+who cannot successfully serve children. The comments provided by the 
+Administration on Children and Families express serious legal concerns 
+about this approach, which involves changes in the recompetition of 
+Head Start grants. I am not qualified to comment on the legal issues, 
+but I would note that the existing approaches, termination and 
+voluntary relinquishment, exercised with strong leadership and under a 
+tight timetable, have in my view proved effective at raising the bar on 
+program quality and compliance.
+    3. The goal of the federal oversight strategy is good results for 
+children. To achieve this goal, continuity for successful grantees is 
+just as important as turnover for unsuccessful grantees. This means 
+that strong technical assistance--high-quality, well-tailored to 
+grantee needs, and available promptly on request--is a critical partner 
+to strong monitoring in the federal oversight strategy. It also means 
+that recompetition of Head Start grants should be limited to 
+unsuccessful programs.
+    A very important lesson from the deliberations of the Advisory 
+Committee, reinforced for me by my own research and practice 
+experience, is the value to children and families of continuity over 
+time in a quality Head Start program. The Advisory Committee found that 
+an effective Head Start program needs to be a central community 
+institution for poor families: it has to link services that vulnerable 
+children need in order to learn, such as health care, mental health 
+services (for example, when young children have experienced family or 
+neighborhood violence), and help for parents who may be young, 
+overwhelmed, and struggling to support their children. For a Head Start 
+program to do a truly excellent job at linking children to needed 
+services takes time, patience, and a consistent set of players in a 
+community, sometimes over many years. As a result, just as constant 
+staff turnover can jeopardize quality services for children, turnover 
+in a program can set back quality for many years, as new players get to 
+know each other and readjust their priorities. In my own research, not 
+specifically focused on Head Start but on communities around the 
+country that created successful partnerships to serve both parent and 
+child in poor families, I found that longstanding relationships among 
+people involved in the work over many years were an important 
+ingredient of success.
+    Continuity also matters because the lives of poor children, 
+families, and communities are unstable in so many ways that the Head 
+Start program may be the one critical source of stability. From my 
+experience in child welfare, where I directed an agency that serves 
+abused and neglected children, I became convinced that a high quality 
+Head Start or Early Head Start program can be a source of consistent 
+stable relationships for babies, toddlers, and preschoolers who are 
+moving around from home to foster care and back as a result of abuse or 
+neglect. Given what the research tells us about the importance of 
+consistent relationships to cognitive development in early childhood, 
+this role is crucial.
+    Therefore, it is just as important to a successful federal 
+oversight strategy to make sure strong programs continue to succeed as 
+it is to make sure failing programs are replaced. As the Advisory 
+Committee made clear in its very first recommendation regarding federal 
+oversight, this means placing a priority on responsive, up-to-the-
+minute, technical assistance capacity easily available to local 
+programs and closely linked to program and management priorities. When 
+programs have strong capacity and a strong track record in serving 
+children, the federal oversight responsibility must include making sure 
+that a small problem doesn't grow until it threatens a program's 
+continued success. And as new issues emerge across the country, the 
+technical assistance system must be able to respond flexibly and 
+effectively.
+    At HHS, when we revamped and invested in technical assistance in 
+response to the Advisory Committee report, we learned to consider 
+technical assistance early in every one of our initiatives. For 
+example, in implementing the current GAO report, HHS might consider 
+whether the early risk assessment strategy would have its greatest 
+impact paired with rapid-response technical assistance, so a program 
+could get help as soon as the risk assessment set off alarms. While I 
+was at HHS, we used a variation on this strategy in the field of child 
+welfare, seeking to make sure that when we implemented more rigorous 
+child welfare reviews, technical assistance to address newly identified 
+problems would be rapidly available.
+    4. The federal oversight strategy needs to integrate fiscal 
+accountability with program accountability at every level and stage - 
+in staff training, in the design of monitoring, and in additional 
+elements of the strategy such as the comprehensive risk assessment or 
+the analysis of improper payments proposed by GAO. Focusing on fiscal 
+accountability without also emphasizing program accountability and 
+results for children can lead, in the words of GAO's 1998 report on 
+Head Start monitoring to ``hold [ing] local Head Start programs 
+accountable only for complying with regulations - not for demonstrating 
+progress in achieving program purposes.'' \7\ Looking at the two kinds 
+of accountability together, on the other hand, can lead to successful 
+solutions that help programs serve children better and more 
+efficiently. Local programs providing Head Start services, like all 
+publicly funded human services programs serving children with complex 
+needs, often face questions about how to meet child and family needs 
+and yet stay within fiscal reporting and accounting requirements. For 
+example, when Head Start programs collaborate with other local programs 
+- such as a mental health clinic that can help children who have 
+experienced violence in the home - they often face questions about what 
+services they should pay for from the Head Start grant and what 
+services should come out of the other agency's funding stream.
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+    \7\ U.S. General Accounting Office. 1998. Head Start: Challenges in 
+Monitoring Program Quality and Demonstrating Results, p. 3.
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+    For these and many other questions that come up regarding fiscal 
+accountability, it is important to find solutions that support program 
+creativity and innovation as well as fiscal accountability. The worst 
+outcome is to have different program and fiscal experts or monitoring 
+reviewers provide conflicting advice. Conflicting responses create the 
+kind of unfairness that GAO cites, where different programs get 
+different treatment, and they also chill innovation, because many 
+programs won't want to risk innovation without knowing how reviewers 
+will judge it. The best outcome is for fiscal and program experts to 
+work together to develop solutions to the real problems programs face.
+    Integrated training for fiscal and program reviewers is also likely 
+to reduce the inconsistencies reported by GAO in assessing program 
+findings and deficiencies. Among the many reasons that people interpret 
+regulations differently, one is the different focus of ``compliance-
+oriented'' fiscal reviewers and ``results-oriented'' program reviewers. 
+For this reason, it is especially helpful to address potential 
+conflicts explicitly in advance.
+    5. Finally, a key step in implementing the GAO recommendations will 
+be a focus on federal staff in both central office and the regions: 
+their training and professional development, staffing levels, and 
+administrative support (such as travel resources), as well as 
+strategies to make federal decision-making more consistent. These are 
+difficult issues that have not been solved yet, either in Head Start or 
+in most other monitoring programs, but there are promising examples to 
+draw on.
+    While I was at HHS, we tried a number of approaches to these 
+dilemmas - investing in federal staff despite very tight administrative 
+budgets and promoting consistent decision-making - but there is much 
+left to be done. One promising approach that we implemented might offer 
+lessons for today's strategies, because it aimed both to use federal 
+dollars more efficiently and to achieve program goals, including Head 
+Start accountability. Specifically, we chose to divide the ten regions 
+into five pairs, each with one larger ``hub'' region and one smaller 
+region, and to design some of the Head Start monitoring strategies 
+across the two paired regions. We used this approach to allocate 
+resources more efficiently and to ensure that if we thought it 
+appropriate, the monitoring team leader for a particular review could 
+be from the region that did not directly oversee the grantee. This 
+allowed the selection of a team leader who was familiar with the 
+geographic area but not involved with the individual grantee.
+    In summary, a well-designed system of federal oversight for Head 
+Start must
+      set the bar high, through rigorous and research-based 
+standards;
+      ensure through aggressive and hands-on management that 
+unsuccessful programs are promptly replaced;
+      ensure prompt and high-quality technical assistance, to 
+promote continuity and steady improvement for successful programs;
+      integrate an emphasis on management with an emphasis on 
+results for children, in order to support creativity, innovation, and 
+fiscal responsibility; and
+      use multiple approaches to strengthen federal staff 
+capacity.
+    For more than forty years, the Head Start program has played a 
+critical role for the nation's most impoverished and vulnerable 
+children, continuing to evolve and innovate to respond to increasingly 
+complex family needs. For Head Start to continue this success into the 
+future requires an equally strong, innovative, and vigorous federal 
+oversight role. I appreciate the Committee's commitment to ensuring the 
+continued strength of this federal role, so that Head Start can build 
+on its record of making a difference to America's poorest young 
+children and their families. Thank you for the opportunity to offer 
+suggestions for further improvements, and I look forward to any 
+questions you may have.
+                                 ______
+                                 
+    Chairman Boehner. Let me thank all the witnesses for coming 
+today, and your excellent testimony. The Members of this 
+Committee understand pretty clearly the importance of early 
+childhood development especially for low income children. And 
+without this help, their chances of success in school is very, 
+very limited.
+    Congress has made a big investment in Head Start over the 
+years. And as we said earlier, a lot of grantees are doing a 
+lot of very good work. But Dr. Horn and Dr. Golden, you have 
+both been around this process for a long time. There are some 
+operators out there who have done a pathetic job for a very 
+long time. You probably know who they are better than I do. I 
+hear about it from members. They come up to me. They have been 
+fighting the problem at home for a long time, and nothing ever 
+happens. Why is it it is so difficult to change grantees when 
+it is obvious to virtually everyone that there is a significant 
+problem? Dr. Horn, you are in the hot seat right now because 
+this is your job. So I will let you begin.
+    Mr. Horn. Well, first of all, let me say from the outset 
+that I believe that most Head Start programs are operating 
+well, that most people who work in Head Start get up every day, 
+go to work and try to do the best they can to further 
+development of children who come from an economically 
+disadvantaged background. So I also believe that Head Start is 
+the embodiment of a very important ideal. That ideal is that 
+now children should be disadvantaged by the circumstances of 
+their birth in their overall education.
+    So I don't believe that trying to improve the oversight of 
+the Head Start program ought to be equated as some have tried 
+to equate it with an antipathy toward the program in general. I 
+think it is a good program and a program that deserves our 
+support. But there are problems. Some of those problems are 
+internal within my agency. And some of them statutory. And to 
+answer your question about replacing grantees, there is a 
+problem statutorily and I know the GAO and we have a different 
+opinion upon this and it may be useful for the Congress to 
+settle this, because frankly we would like the opinion of the 
+GAO to prevail. Would that we had more authority than we 
+believe the statute provides. And here is the problem. There 
+are two sections in the statute. The first is section 
+641(b)(2).
+    And this section says, in part, that the secretary shall 
+give priority to the designation of Head Start agencies to any 
+local public or private non profit or for profit agency which 
+is receiving funds under any Head Start program. Unless the 
+secretary determines that it is, you know--and then it has some 
+exceptions. The problem is, you have to cross reference that 
+with section 646(a)(3) in the statute, which says in part that 
+financial assistance under the subchapter shall not be 
+terminated or reduced or an application for refunding shall not 
+be denied to a grantee unless the recipient has been afforded 
+reasonable notice and opportunity for a full and fair hearing.
+    Now, if you look at the requirements for notice and so 
+forth, and you add them up, the minimum amount of time to 
+actually defund a grantee who does not voluntary relinquish is 
+240 days and that is assuming the hearing before the 
+departmental appeals board occurs in 1 day.
+    Chairman Boehner. But the fact, is Mr. Wade, or Mr. Horn, 
+that if you look at the period from May 1998 to 2001, the--to 
+terminate a grantee, here is an example. It took 1,236 days. I 
+have got another one here, another example occurred between 
+February 1, 2001 and May, 03, 800 days from the start of the 
+review to the date of the termination. Now why would it take 
+the agency 24 long to make this determination?
+    Mr. Horn. Well, part of it has to do--we have no control 
+over how long the hearing is before the appeals board. And that 
+hearing can drag on for months. There are cases where it has 
+dragged on for over a year. Just the hearing. And we can't 
+order the DAB to come up with a decision in a shorter period of 
+time. But it seems to us--I am agreeing with you. We ought to 
+be able to move quicker toward termination of a grantee.
+    Chairman Boehner. All right. Dr. Golden.
+    Dr. Golden. I guess what I would highlight is that when I 
+started people said to me just this, that it is too hard. And 
+it turned out that in most cases it wasn't too hard. That is 
+how we were able to accomplish that termination and 
+relinquishment of so many grantees. And it is what we learned I 
+think about what makes it possible is that you have to have--
+you have to have high quality fact gathering. You have to have 
+hands-on involvement. I think that this helps to have not only 
+the high standards of Head Start, those are key, but the clear 
+vision about how those standards relate to the result, because 
+what I found when I went and talked to parents is that parent 
+boards of a grantee might initially have wanted to fight your 
+conclusion that it was deficient, but once you talk to them 
+about how what was going on was say the kind of fiscal problem 
+that we heard from Ms. Henry and that the teachers in the 
+classroom who they had such affection for really were terrific 
+and were going to be able to stay, once you did that you could 
+often get a relinquishment.
+    And I don't know the legal specifics of the issue that 
+Assistant Secretary Horn is raising enough to know if there are 
+additional things Congress could do. But the message that I 
+want to leave you with is that there is a great deal you can do 
+with the existing authority when you are focused on being able 
+to prevent a lot of problems with technical assistance and then 
+address the rest.
+    And I think the one big picture context piece I would put 
+on it is that we know something about the quality of Head Start 
+programs compared to the quality of other programs nationally, 
+because researchers go out and look. And we know in Head Start 
+not only is quality good, but it is unusually consistent 
+compared to, say, State pre-K or child care, so that the 
+overall, this elaborate and high standards monitoring process 
+is delivering at the same time that the Committee is clearly 
+absolutely right and the GAO is right, you can't have--you have 
+to address the individual cases that aren't being met.
+    Chairman Boehner. Well, I appreciate your comments and your 
+testimony about all the changes that were made in the 1990's. 
+But here is a June 1998 study from the GAO. Challenges in 
+monitoring program quality and demonstrating results. And this 
+isn't new. And the two of you know that this isn't new. That is 
+the part that is agitating me because--
+    Dr. Golden. The 1998. I think that is right. The 1998 study 
+was very helpful to us. It highlighted how aggressively we have 
+moved on terminations, but it expressed the concern--and 
+relinquishments--it expressed the concern that the research 
+base wasn't as strong and so that is the next step which I 
+think is really key to work on.
+    Chairman Boehner. Let me ask one more question. And excuse 
+me for going a little bit over. But as Mr. Miller pointed out 
+in his opening statement, there are 1,796 little boxes that 
+every Head Start grantee has to check off. And I have watched 
+some of this occur as I have gone to Head Start centers. And 
+sometimes, between what we are asking the Head Start centers to 
+do in terms of--they are diligent about wanting to check those 
+boxes off and the different offices that are reviewing various 
+parts of the program, is there ever an opportunity, one, to 
+look at the overall program itself that the grantee in terms of 
+fiscal management, quality, results? That is one question.
+    And second, are we creating an environment with 1,796 boxes 
+to check off that we are distracting the local grantee from 
+actually accomplishing results for low income children who need 
+the help?
+    I will let you start, Dr. Golden.
+    Dr. Golden. OK. I think that is a great question because I 
+think the key issue for the Committee and for anyone managing 
+the program is that on the one hand, we know from the research, 
+we have studied how programs that do a good job at the 
+standards do for results for kids compared to programs that do 
+a less good job, and so we know that high standards really 
+matter and that carrying out the high standards really matters.
+    At the same time, I think you are absolutely right that you 
+want to be looking at those standards in a way that is focused 
+on results not a way that is picky about details. And so one of 
+the things that I think is important about the way the 
+regulations now talk about deficiencies is that those are meant 
+to be not just about counting up the boxes, but if you are 
+going to go into this really serious program improvement 
+process you have to step back and you have to say this is 
+serious. This is something that is getting in the way of the 
+program's success. So my own view would be that high standards 
+really matter, and we know that from the research; that in 
+enforcing those high standards you have to keep your eye on the 
+big picture, do a lot of training and technical assistance, and 
+that as the Committee moves forward, that is one of the reasons 
+that I recommended thinking about fiscal and program issues 
+together in carrying out GAO's recommendations because you are 
+absolutely right. You don't want to be pulling people in 
+multiple directions. You want them kept focused on the big 
+picture.
+    Chairman Boehner. Dr. Horn.
+    Mr. Horn. I think one of the strengths of the Head Start 
+program is its focus on local control and the ability of local 
+programs to design a program that meets local community needs; 
+and there is a tension between preserving that local control 
+and that local flexibility and the degree of Federal oversight 
+that we want.
+    I think that there are two things that the Federal 
+Government ought to do when it comes to oversight of the local 
+programs while preserving the ability of the local programs to 
+be flexible to meet local community needs:
+    First, we ought to make sure, at a minimum, that money that 
+you here in Congress appropriate for Head Start is used for 
+Head Start purposes, No. 1, and is being used to the maximum 
+extent possible to deliver quality services to kids, not to 
+provide outrageous salaries to some executives.
+    The second thing we ought to do, and I agree with Dr. 
+Golden, is to focus on results. If all of our monitoring is 
+focused on process and we lose sight of results, then the 
+monitoring isn't really very useful. We need to find a way to 
+ensure that as we are monitoring these programs, that at the 
+end of the day what we really care about is not whether certain 
+processes and procedures were followed to the T, but the kids 
+are actually developing well as a consequence of those 
+programs.
+    Chairman Boehner. The gentleman recognizes the gentleman 
+from California, the Ranking Democrat, Mr. Miller.
+    Mr. Miller. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me see if I am 
+hearing some of this correctly, Dr. Golden and Secretary Horn; 
+we have 1,600 grantees roughly, is that correct?
+    Mr. Horn. Yes.
+    Mr. Miller. You say as a result of the high standards in 
+effect, the program is delivering what we expect it to do on 
+behalf of these children. And I think, Mr. Horn, in a different 
+way you arrived at the same conclusion. Overall, the program is 
+in fact delivering the kinds of services that we in the 
+Congress and other people expect from the Head Start program; 
+is that a fair assessment?
+    Mr. Horn. I think most programs are doing a good job.
+    Mr. Miller. And I think that would be probably our 
+experience. There are obviously some cases when it goes wrong, 
+it seems to go wrong in a rather dramatic and even criminal 
+fashion. But when I look at the GAO report, it seems to me that 
+there is a lot of failure to comply with these regulations or 
+with what would be good fiscal management in some cases, or in 
+some cases there is programmatic failure to comply; you are not 
+doing right by the children.
+    But it seems--what I see in this report is you are cited, 
+so to speak; you are told that this is the deficiency and you 
+are told to correct it, and then there is this heavy reliance 
+on self-certification. And it would seem that the average 
+grantee could think that these people are never coming back, 
+because not only may it take a long time to relinquish one, it 
+looks like it is a long time before you get back to find out if 
+in fact it was corrected, or, even as you go into the next 
+cycle, you find out--the very same problem sitting there 
+staring you in the face.
+    Is that a fair assumption of what GAO is telling us?
+    Ms. Shaul. Yes.
+    Mr. Miller. Pretty sloppy layman's language.
+    Ms. Shaul. There were a variety of noncompliances, from 
+grantees that might have only one, all the way through to 
+grantees who are deficient. I think when you have a grantee 
+with a very low number of noncompliances, probably on their 
+self-certification, could be affected, because it is a fairly 
+small issue. But when you begin looking at grantees who have 
+multiple citations of noncompliance, or who are deemed 
+deficient, of course that wouldn't be appropriate. Deficient 
+grantees can't self-certify. They have to have a quality 
+improvement plan.
+    Mr. Miller. What part of the universe are those people 
+where this is serious?
+    Ms. Shaul. In the 2000 data we reviewed, of all the 
+grantees about 13 percent were deficient grantees. And in that 
+group that we said had at least one noncompliance, it was 17 
+percent of that group.
+    Mr. Miller. This is a theory. This is a manageable 
+caseload. If you want to provide technical assistance, if you 
+want to provide follow-up, if you want to make sure these 
+things are corrected and people are coming into compliance, 
+this is I think manageable, Secretary Horn, is it not?
+    Mr. Horn. Yeah, I do. However, I don't think it is 
+manageable with the old practices and procedures that we had in 
+place. And that is one of the reasons we have restructured the 
+way that we deliver training and technical assistance to local 
+Head Start grantees. In the past, there was sort of an 
+overreliance, in my judgment, on going to conferences and being 
+trained at conferences. There is a certain efficiency at 
+training at conferences, but not an effective way of changing 
+behavior.
+    What we are interested in doing with the new training and 
+technical assistance network is to do much more training and 
+technical assistance onsite at the local Head Start program, 
+and not just with in-services, but with experts that come in 
+and provide mentoring and guided practice and come back again 
+and again to make sure that appropriate changes have taken 
+place.
+    Mr. Miller. That extends to compliance and with program 
+regulations?
+    Mr. Horn. I agree completely that we have relied too much 
+in the past on self-certifications, and we issued guidance 
+recently to all the regional offices that said we are no longer 
+going to allow self-certification--certainly not for deficient 
+grantees--but, rather, they are going to have to travel to the 
+local programs to make sure they are fixed.
+    Mr. Miller. In terms of flexibility, you talked about what 
+happened in 93 with terminations and relinquishments. Those 
+were two: You either terminate in an adversarial process or you 
+show them the wisdom of their ways and you get a 
+relinquishment.
+    And there is also this question as to whether or not you 
+can deprioritize a grantee, which would then allow competition. 
+Is that a cumbersome process?
+    Dr. Golden. I think you have heard that there is some 
+disagreement between GAO and the Assistant Secretary about what 
+is legally possible under the current statute, which I am not 
+expert on. We didn't need to go to that strategy, but used the 
+other strategies that involved termination.
+    Mr. Miller. Dr. Shaul, when I read your discussion on page 
+16 of the denial of the priority--and you make the point, which 
+I think is an important one, that denying the priority status 
+to a grantee who has been part of the community for years and 
+has educated multiple generations, this is a serious decision. 
+And one of the things we like in this community is having some 
+continuity. We don't want to change a grantee or vendor every 
+year. I don't think that is helpful. But it seems to me you are 
+suggesting that can be done without a lot of hassle. If you 
+find that they have consistent nonperformance you can 
+deprioritize them, or the Secretary can.
+    Ms. Shaul. Our understanding of the law, Congressman, is 
+that if the Secretary says that a program is failing program or 
+financial standards, that that program does not continue to 
+have priority, and therefore the agency could recompete.
+    Mr. Horn. If that is the case, I would love the Congress to 
+clarify it, because our lawyers says that is not the case.
+    Mr. Miller. Have you tried to do it?
+    Mr. Horn. Our lawyers tell us that the statute requires 
+that you cannot deny--you cannot either terminate funding or 
+deny a funding application until the grantee has had an 
+opportunity for a full and fair appeal, if they choose to 
+appeal, which is the reason why we too try to move to voluntary 
+relinquishments. The average number of relinquishments and 
+terminations under the Clinton administration was 16 per year 
+and under the Bush administration is 13 per year. We are not 
+talking about a huge difference. But we do rely upon voluntary 
+relinquishments, as the Clinton administration, precisely 
+because it is very difficult for us to move to termination, 
+given the statutory requirement that we cannot in fact deny 
+refunding to a grantee until the appeals process has played its 
+course.
+    Mr. Miller. If I could have Dr. Shaul respond on that 
+point. When I read this, it sounds like this is all doable. 
+Your attorneys have the same caveat?
+    Ms. Shaul. Our attorneys looked at one case where there was 
+a decision made that allowed the agency to select a grantee 
+who--to deny priority to a grantee that applied to take on an 
+expansion grant. And we used that as the basis for saying if 
+they could deny it in that case because one of the delegate 
+agencies was deficient, that that would--we thought that that 
+would apply in other circumstances as well. That is the case we 
+cite in our report.
+    Mr. Miller. Mr. Chairman, I have had a number of problems 
+in my area, more on the programmatic side than on fiscal side. 
+And I don't know, it seems to me if you ride them pretty hard, 
+you could get the changes; whether it is in people running the 
+program, seems to me you could bring these programs into shape. 
+And the ones that are in the newspaper with the travel and the 
+purchases and the credit cards, I don't know why somebody 
+didn't just call the cops. This behavior went way out of 
+bounds. This isn't about compliance, this is about criminal 
+intent. And I don't know why the board--I don't know if we can 
+bring judgment into play here, but somebody failed to pick up 
+the phone and call the district attorney and say someone is 
+absconding with the funds. This is beyond this at the moment, 
+but there is another failure going on here.
+    Mr. Castle. [Presiding] Thank you, Mr. Miller. I yield 
+myself 5 minutes for questioning.
+    I would like to follow up on that line. How those things 
+happened and were never detected I don't know, regardless of 
+whether they should have happened or not. But let me try to get 
+a bigger picture, because I am having trouble with this hearing 
+because I did spend some time reading the report and marking 
+up--my staff did as well. I think this was a pretty damning 
+report and I didn't look at this as having a lot of positives.
+    And I am pleased, Secretary Horn, things are happening as a 
+result of it, but what happened before didn't make me real 
+happy. Maybe I am wrong. Everybody is sort of making nicer than 
+what I would have, based on what I read at this hearing.
+    Dr. Shaul, if you could help me, your title is Director of 
+Education, Workforce, and Income Security issues. How many of 
+these types of reports have you been involved with in your 
+career at GAO--not Head Start--but reports where you were 
+either the head person or key person putting it together? A 
+dozen, 100 or--
+    Ms. Shaul. Probably more than 50, less than 100.
+    Mr. Castle. How does this rank in terms of what you stated 
+in here in a general sense? I read this and I didn't read a lot 
+of positive in here. I read, to me, that we have government 
+problems. We have problems with these agencies as well that 
+have done the things that Mr. Miller referred to. But it seems 
+to me that we are not carrying out our responsibilities, and 
+maybe even at the congressional level not carrying out our 
+responsibilities the way we should have here in recent years. 
+Am I misreading that, or are you saying you are just pointing 
+out the problems but there are a lot of good things as well? 
+What is going on here?
+    Ms. Shaul. Our report, Congressman, was designed in part to 
+look at the processes in place for oversight and then what 
+happened when problems were found. And I think basically what 
+we are saying is there are enough processes in place. In our 
+chart you can see there are many, many. But we didn't believe 
+that the agency really pulled the information together 
+effectively so it could do a real risk assessment, so it could 
+really target its resources.
+    Mr. Castle. Stop right there. In my view, that is the real 
+problem. And in following up on what Mr. Boehner said, that 
+questionnaire of 1800 things that they have to mark up, there 
+is a heck of a lot of information flow, but are we handling the 
+management of that information? Is that really at the crux of 
+this problem, so that we are not doing the proper supervision 
+and administration of these programs--because they complain 
+about it as well-- and, you know--and maybe they are right--the 
+Head Start programs?
+    Ms. Shaul. I think there are two issues. Our report wasn't 
+really commenting on the overall quality of the Head Start 
+program. We know it is a popular program. What we were focusing 
+on was the oversight of the program by the Department could be 
+improved by bringing together information in a much more 
+effective fashion, and, as I said, targeting the resources.
+    Mr. Castle. Let me talk about the information again. I 
+mean, one of the complaints I have heard about is that the Head 
+Start agency--there are those forms, I don't know if they are 
+self-inspection or what they are, they are voluminous, 
+literally in the many hundreds and couple thousands, and 
+information is derived from that. There is information which is 
+derived from the various reviews which are done here. Is there 
+a better way of approaching this?
+    Without criticizing that--and maybe I should open this up 
+to Secretary Horn and Dr. Golden as well--but are there ways on 
+improving this? I don't think there isn't anybody here on 
+either side of the aisle that doesn't want to make Head Start 
+the best program we can. We all like and admire this program as 
+well. And we had trouble with this legislation last year and we 
+would like to pass legislation this year, but we want to 
+effectively monitor this without having these groups spending 
+all their lives without having to fill out forms. And my 
+impression is there is a lot of information flow without much 
+coming from it which is really beneficial. And as a result, we 
+don't know where the programs are. We don't seem to be able to 
+terminate the programs, and there are some serious and 
+incredible flaws in at least a dozen, two dozen, programs that 
+seems to me that somebody should have caught. Why isn't all 
+this happening? Does anybody want to help me with that?
+    Dr. Golden. I was going to comment on the more general 
+information flow question, and the question is where does the 
+information for monitoring go? And I do want to note, because 
+there is a lot of research around Head Start, it is possible 
+for us to know some things that we don't know about how the 
+programs work and what is out there. One of the things we know 
+is that when researchers go in and observe programs, even 
+though Head Start is spread out all across the country, they 
+find consistent good quality. They find very few classrooms 
+that are of low quality compared to when they look at, say, 
+pre-K or child care settings, which are more varied and of 
+lesser quality.
+    So what I would take from that--even though I think you are 
+absolutely right that there is an enormous amount of 
+information and some of it doesn't get used well--that, 
+clearly, gathering this information in a lot of areas is having 
+an effect in terms of consistency, and that is because of the 
+work the Committee has done to make sure that there is rigor.
+    The way I read the GAO report was that it provided very 
+important recommendations for a particular set of programs, for 
+both pulling together fiscal information for a particular set 
+of programs that could build on the capacities you already 
+found there and that needed to be pulled together.
+    Mr. Castle. I would like to hear from Secretary Horn as 
+well. You are basically saying that that information flow, you 
+think, helps give them parameters in terms of what they are 
+doing, and therefore we have a consistent, reasonably high 
+quality of programs at Head Start?
+    Mr. Horn. I want to agree there are high-quality programs 
+at Head Start. I think most of the programs are delivering 
+quality services to the kids, and that is borne out by some of 
+our survey studies, particularly through the FASA survey. But I 
+agree we have not made maximum use of the information that is 
+available to us, and we need to do a better job.
+    We--for example, it is astounding to me as it is to you 
+that we can have Head Start directors making $200,000-plus and 
+not have somebody question that in a refunding application and 
+to ask for the comparability study which is required by our 
+regulations to show that that salary is in line with other 
+executive directors in similar situated nonprofits in that 
+community.
+    The fact that the Head Start programs are required to 
+provide us every 6 months with a history of their drawdowns and 
+expenditures, not in detail, and that those are not being 
+reconciled on a regular basis in the regional offices; we need 
+to do a better job, because if you start to see over time a 
+grantee which is--whose expenditures are going up at a 
+precipitous level or who are drawing down too early in their 
+grant period, that should be a red flag to us to go out to the 
+program and ask what is going on.
+    I think most programs get themselves in trouble not because 
+they wake up and say, gee, what can I do that is illegal or 
+fraudulent today; I think a lot of programs get themselves in 
+trouble because they don't know better. They find themselves in 
+a situation where they have overspent their grants and don't 
+know how to deal with it. And we have to do a better job 
+working with the local Head Start programs and making sure they 
+don't get into those kinds of trouble.
+    The best system in the world is not going to be able to 
+detect immediately every instance in which someone submits 
+fraudulent data to us, but we can do a better job with the 
+information we have available to us, and we are committed to 
+doing so.
+    Ms. Shaul. If I could just add one thing to support this. 
+One of the noncompliance areas has to do with program 
+governance, and that is really the place where the day-to-day 
+oversight of the agency occurs, not through the Federal 
+oversight, which is a more systematic and systemic kind of 
+approach.
+    Mr. Castle. You mean a local board of directors is running 
+that?
+    Ms. Shaul. The importance of the local board of directors. 
+We all know in other venues, the importance of boards in 
+providing some oversight. So the local boards are extremely 
+important.
+    Mr. Castle. Maybe we can make Sarbanes-Oxley applicable to 
+them. That would take care of that problem. That is a joke.
+    I recognize Mr. Kildee for 5 minutes.
+    Mr. Kildee. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for the 
+hearing today.
+    I know you are concerned about prolonged appeals and you 
+listen to your attorneys. I can understand that. But I can 
+recall Secretary Shalala probably didn't listen to her 
+attorneys. I remember in 1 year she got rid of 100 grantees 
+under the same law. Maybe she had different attorneys. But I 
+would think that you might want to change your attorneys. I 
+have done that a few times, too.
+    Either these grantees relinquished their funds or she 
+pushed them out. A little more aggressive action for those who 
+aren't really functioning well might be warranted. You might 
+look into that and consult your attorneys.
+    Dr. Golden, it is good to have you before this Committee. I 
+have memories of your testimony before this Committee from 
+years past. Should good programs be required to recompete? And, 
+if not, how should we determine which ones should recompete?
+    Dr. Golden. Thank you for asking that, Congressman, because 
+one of the points I made in my testimony is that we need to be 
+able to have turnover when programs don't succeed; but when 
+programs are good, we need to have continuity. And the 
+different several sources of evidence I think suggests that 
+that is what works for children.
+    That bipartisan advisory committee I mentioned did some 
+looking into what it takes to build community connections to 
+serve children well, and they concluded you needed continuity. 
+My own research has suggested the same thing. And when I was in 
+the district working on child welfare and working with kids, as 
+you heard from Ms. Henry, kids who have been abused and 
+neglected and have lots of instability in their lives, having 
+that Head Start program as a source of stability was really 
+important. It was a place you could build continuity. My own 
+view would be that good programs should not be recompeted. You 
+should not be adding a source of instability.
+    In terms of which programs, I guess my own view is that the 
+structure we had around deficiencies where you are looking at 
+programs that seriously can achieve the goals of the program 
+and can't fix it is a pretty good framework. We may need to 
+fine-tune that in some way. But right now, what we have at the 
+Federal level is the ability to say once we pull together the 
+information, this is a program that has a serious problem, we 
+are going to give them a very short amount of time to fix it; 
+and, if not, they are not doing a service to children.
+    Mr. Kildee. I appreciate your response, Dr. Golden.
+    It has been proposed that the Head Start program be block 
+granted. Some don't like to use that term, but we all know it 
+is a block grant. I have been in Congress 29 years and I can 
+smell a block grant a mile away. So it is a block grant. Would 
+this help or hurt Head Start, especially in the area of 
+accountability?
+    Dr. Golden. Let me not use the word ``block grants,'' and 
+that sounds as though it is under dispute, and talk about what 
+I think the research says about what works for kids. I think 
+that the research on early childhood says that high standards, 
+like the high Federal performance standards and consistent 
+enforcement, consistent quality, are what is key. And I think 
+we know from a variety of sources that the way you get 
+consistent quality is through the Federal monitoring and 
+enforcement.
+    So some of the kinds of research that I turn to to draw 
+that conclusion, the reviews of the quality of Head Start 
+programs through observation compared to--for example, there is 
+a recent study that compares that to observation of State early 
+childhood programs and finds the Head Start programs higher 
+quality. When you look at State capacity to do monitoring or 
+quality enforcement in child care and pre-K, what you find is 
+enormous inconsistency; and, in child care, a very great 
+difficulty with having high standards to start with.
+    I learned some more about this with the research I am doing 
+now at the Urban Institute where we are looking at State 
+programs, programs for low-income children more broadly. One of 
+the things you see is that when there is devolution, when 
+States are asked to take responsibility for programs for low-
+income kids, State budgets are so hit hard by the recession, by 
+the ups and downs, that they get hit by the State budget crunch 
+at the very same moment that there are more poor children that 
+need help, so it doesn't work as a way to get consistent high 
+standards.
+    I think what I would say is what it takes to deliver on the 
+goals of Head Start, on the school readiness, on the learning, 
+on the results, is consistent, high standards, the Federal 
+performance standards in force through an effective Federal 
+monitoring structure.
+    Mr. Kildee. Thank you very much.
+    Chairman Boehner. [Presiding] The Chair recognizes the 
+gentleman from Minnesota, Mr. Kline.
+    Mr. Kline. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and you all for being 
+here today.
+    I would like to pick up on the notion that Mr. Miller 
+raised earlier when he was asking about the universe and the 
+scope. We see--we have the anecdotal evidence here clearly that 
+there has been abuse. We have the stories of directors making 
+$200,000-plus salaries. And I am looking at the report, Dr. 
+Shaul, and there is a number in here on page 2 in the summary. 
+I would like you to think I got past the summary, but let me 
+refer to the summary. It says this is a concern because ACF's 
+data shows that more than 76 percent of Head Start programs 
+that were reviewed in 2000 were out of compliance with 
+financial management standards.
+    And in response to Mr. Miller, when he asked about the 
+universe, I think you said there was a 13 percent number and 70 
+percent of 13. Could you take a minute and sort out the 
+percents here, to the end where how big is the problem?
+    Ms. Shaul. In terms of serious problems, Congressman, those 
+would be grantees who are deemed deficient in the 2000 year 
+sample that we looked at of all those grantees that we reviewed 
+that year, 13 percent of those grantees were deficient. Now, if 
+I move to the pool that we said had at least one noncompliance, 
+the 76 percent--17 percent of that group, since it is a smaller 
+portion of the grantees--17 percent of that group were 
+deficient. Those are the most serious.
+    I would want to make one point on the record here too, is 
+that we did make a recommendation that the agency look at 
+developing a clear definition that both it and the grantees 
+know what is deficient, since we found that there were some 
+inconsistencies and deficiency determinations.
+    Now, to go back to your question about how serious. When we 
+came to that 76 percent, we looked at one noncompliance in any 
+one of three areas which we considered important to financial 
+management. And so there was a wide range of problems at 
+grantees, from grantees who might have had only one 
+noncompliance to grantees who might have had dozens of 
+noncompliances. So there is a big range from the first grantee 
+who is cited with the noncompliance all the way through to 
+grantees who were deficient.
+    Mr. Kline. Could you help me a little more and sort of--and 
+to get out of the sort of deficient one point, many points and 
+so forth, could we look at the Head Start program that grantees 
+out there, how many--what percentage of the total universe of 
+Head Start grantees are in your judgment--and I am certainly 
+willing to take subjective here--are in trouble; just don't--
+absolutely do not know what they are doing and therefore are in 
+major noncompliance or perhaps occasionally on purpose 
+noncompliant? Of all those programs out there, how many should 
+we be worried about?
+    Ms. Shaul. Congressman, our review is limited to the 
+financial aspect. If you are asking for the program as a whole 
+in any given year, HHS reports something around 15 percent or 
+fewer of its grantees are deemed deficient.
+    Mr. Kline. And financially, when you cut through the 13 or 
+16 of 76, what is that number?
+    Ms. Shaul. The number would be slightly lower, because HHS 
+makes its determination about deficiencies looking across the 
+program standards, not just the financial ones.
+    Mr. Kline. That does help me understand the scope. And I am 
+getting ready to yield back, but I am going to express my 
+concerns. We have a 1998 report and a 2005 report indicating 
+that there are difficulties. And so I think, Mr. Secretary, you 
+can see where there is some frustration on our part that we 
+don't seem to be making the progress that we ought to be.
+    Thank you. I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
+    Chairman Boehner. Chair recognizes the gentlelady from 
+California, Ms. Woolsey.
+    Ms. Woolsey. I have three comments and two questions.
+    The comments. First of all, when we are talking about 
+appeals and hearings, I would like to remind everybody in this 
+room that this is still America and we do have a process for 
+appealing for what we don't think is right. Second, I would 
+like to say where there is a will, there is a way. And I think 
+that this report has laid this out for us. We can, if we want, 
+take this report and make it punitive to the Head Start 
+directors and the Head Start program in general, or we can use 
+it to learn and to help and to prevent future problems. And 
+that depends on what this Congress wants to do with the report. 
+Third, don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Most of 
+the programs are doing a good job, and every single person up 
+there has said that. So the idea that we would recompete every 
+year with every program would be absolutely wasteful and 
+inefficient; it would punish the good programs for the problems 
+of just a few. And I don't think we should be writing law based 
+on a few bad apples. There will always be a few bad apples. Let 
+us prevent those bad apples from being part of our programs.
+    Mr. Horn, you mentioned salaries at least three times, so 
+that must be a problem you see with Head Start programs. And 
+from what I can tell, there are some outrageously high salaries 
+and/or benefits with a few program directors, from what I can 
+tell. But the average salary of a director is under $57,000 a 
+year. Do you think that is excessive, one?
+    And two, given that HHS approves the budgets of these 
+programs, who approved those excessive salaries?
+    Mr. Horn. Well, first of all, it is not just me who worries 
+about excessive salaries. Apparently the Congress does too, 
+because they put the salary cap on Head Start staff in last 
+year's Labor-HHS appropriations bill. I am not against people 
+making money. The real tragedy in my view is somebody making 
+$150,000 as a Head Start director. It is not that they are 
+making $150,000; the real tragedy is if they are still paying 
+their teachers about 6 or 7 bucks an hour. When you think about 
+salaries in Head Start, it is not just looking at the top 
+salaries, you have to look at the salary structure.
+    Ms. Woolsey. I am asking about the $56,670.
+    Mr. Horn. I think most directors of most Head Start 
+programs have salaries that are reasonable and have a 
+reasonable salary structure, but that doesn't mean that we 
+ought not to identify those who are paying themselves.
+    Ms. Woolsey. Why weren't they identified when the detailed 
+budgets were before HHS each year?
+    Mr. Horn. Very good question. And we have issued guidance 
+to our regional offices that they require and ask for and 
+receive information on the salaries of not only--of the 
+salaries of the directors and the top executive staff, but of 
+their teachers as well; because I think it is very important 
+that we take a comprehensive view every single time there is a 
+refunding application that looks at the complete salary 
+structure, because, as I said, it is not just looking at the 
+director's salary that has me bothered. But what bothers me is 
+when someone is making a high salary and paying their teachers 
+6 or 7 bucks an hour.
+    Ms. Woolsey. What is the average salary of the director of 
+the HHS program, or your program, of the director of the 
+assessors or the fact finders? What is the average salary of 
+the fact finders in your Department who are going to training 
+and technical assistance?
+    Mr. Horn. I don't have that information.
+    Ms. Woolsey. I bet it is a lot higher than a lot of these. 
+We should look at that. I mean apples and apples.
+    Mr. Horn. My salary is substantially below the cap that the 
+U.S. Congress put on Head Start directors last year.
+    Ms. Woolsey. Well, OK.
+    Dr. Shaul, I have a question. You said something about 
+there being a relatively small number of grantees that were 
+seriously deficient and not closed. How many of those actually 
+improved so they didn't have to close? Was there any way to 
+know that?
+    Ms. Shaul. Congresswoman, we did not look at that, but I am 
+sure one could tell the answer to that question by going back 
+to the HHS data.
+    Ms. Woolsey. But it could be.
+    Ms. Shaul. We could certainly do that. And certainly other 
+grantees who are deemed deficient, only a portion of those have 
+had their grants terminated or they have been relinquished. One 
+could presume that they have gotten the technical assistance 
+they needed to improve.
+    Ms. Woolsey. I have one last thing to say and that is to 
+Ms. Henry. Good witness down there. And what you have to know, 
+don't ever be intimidated by us. You are sitting there, and you 
+are the teacher and we are the students. You know way more than 
+we do.
+    Chairman Boehner. The Chair recognizes the gentlelady from 
+Virginia, Ms. Foxx.
+    Ms. Foxx. North Carolina.
+    Chairman Boehner. I was looking at the gentlelady from 
+Virginia, Ms. Drake. But, Ms. Foxx, you are recognized.
+    Ms. Foxx. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Ms. Henry, I would like to thank you for being here, too 
+and thank you for what you do. We appreciate you very, very 
+much and thank you for what you do.
+    I would like to make a brief comment and then ask Dr. Horn 
+a question. Dr. Horn, I was on the original board of the Smart 
+Start program in North Carolina when it was formed about 1995. 
+And that program was designed to give maximum flexibility to 
+local programs in North Carolina, but it is State-funded 
+primarily.
+    I have always had a little bit of experience of program 
+evaluation over the years in my role as a university 
+administrator and community college president, so I know a 
+little bit about program evaluation. Smart Start, where we 
+funded 12 programs, and then 12 more, and then 12 more, and 
+then we had one or two programs that really had problems, and 
+we almost could know that from the very beginning that they 
+were going to have problems. We could tell that from the 
+criteria that had been established, and yet we funded them 
+because we were trying to do one per congressional district. 
+When we abused the system to make it fit, we created problems. 
+But over time, we had few people who really abused the system 
+and misused funds. And part of that is because there was not a 
+consistent accounting program established and there was not 
+consistent evaluation of the programs done at the State level. 
+And what wound up happening was there were both sins of 
+omission as well as sins of commission that occurred.
+    What is wrong with the Federal Government establishing 
+oversight that would establish minimum sort of requirements for 
+evaluation, minimum requirements for accounting standards and 
+those kinds of things? In fact, I am not very much involved 
+with Smart Start anymore, but my understanding is they have 
+installed a statewide accounting program so that people can--so 
+apples and apples can be compared.
+    What is wrong with the Federal Government establishing a 
+mechanism for gathering information and evaluating at the 
+Federal level, and yet leaving capability for local control, 
+which you said is a very difficult balance to strike? And has 
+anybody attempted to do that?
+    Mr. Horn. Well, two things. First of all, there are 
+certainly consistent ways that the Federal Government asks for 
+information from the local programs. I think you are suggesting 
+a step further than that, which is that the Federal Government 
+should say precisely what accounting package they use and so 
+forth. That is sort of left up to local grantees in the Head 
+Start program. But there are consistent methods for us to ask 
+for information that they have to generate for us.
+    I think the difficulty that GAO pointed out is that we 
+don't always use that information to its maximum potential. But 
+it is precisely on this point of consistency that we 
+implemented the National Reporting System in Head Start, 
+because prior to the National Reporting System, every grantee 
+could determine for themselves how they were going to measure 
+outcomes.
+    And as someone who has a history in program evaluation, I 
+realize that as a Federal program manager, if people are 
+measuring what they think is the same thing but in different 
+ways, you can't compare them. Even worse, if you don't know 
+they are measuring them in different ways, you compare them 
+anyway, and then you have no idea whether your interpretations 
+are correct.
+    So is there anything wrong with the Federal Government, in 
+appropriate areas, standardizing the way people collect 
+information or report information? Absolutely not.
+    Ms. Foxx. Follow-up, if I could, for Dr. Shaul and you too.
+    Did we see consistent problems or is there a thread that 
+runs through? I know, again from having operated a Federal 
+program one time in my life, grantees get together and share 
+information, talk about what works, what doesn't work. Did you 
+see regional problems where people are sharing bad information 
+or how to get around the system? Are there regional issues, 
+State issues? Are there just programs stuck out there all by 
+themselves? Is there any kind of pattern to the problems that 
+you saw?
+    Ms. Shaul. We did an analysis of which of the Federal 
+standards and regulations were the ones that were most commonly 
+a problem for grantees, and the ones that came up most often 
+were in the program governance area, particularly things like 
+the ability of the agency to generate reports that could 
+provide information to its policy boards, its parents, and to 
+the staff so they could know what was going on in program 
+management and operation. So that was a fairly common thread.
+    Also there was an issue that came up fairly regularly about 
+difficulties in establishing practices between the policy 
+boards and the governing boards about how they would share 
+program responsibility, which sometimes meant that agencies 
+were not in touch with what the community wanted them to do. 
+Those are two areas.
+    One thing I might add to the question you raised earlier, 
+too, I think probably all of the Head Start programs or the 
+entities within which they are housed are subject to the Single 
+Audit Act, so there is that uniformity across the agencies. 
+However, as Dr. Horn pointed out, that information isn't always 
+used.
+    Chairman Boehner. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from 
+Texas, Mr. Hinojosa.
+    Mr. Hinojosa. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I also want to thank 
+the panelists for your presentation and coming to visit with us 
+this afternoon.
+    My first question is to Dr. Horn. Dr. Horn, in your 
+testimony, you highlight some of the administration's 
+recommendations for this reauthorization of Head Start. 
+Specifically, you ask for more discretion to use funds in the 
+most effective manner, and that sounds good.
+    I am concerned that the track record at HHS does not 
+warrant increased discretion. Let me tell you why. Currently, 
+13 percent of Head Start funding, which equals $897 million, is 
+set aside for the Secretary of HHS to carry out a list of 
+activities, including funding migrant and seasonal Head Start 
+Training and Technical Assistance, quality assurance, and 
+several other activities. Clearly, one of the messages we take 
+away from the report that we have been discussing is that there 
+is a need for Training and Technical Assistance and greater 
+oversight. Furthermore, despite HHS studies showing that 
+Migrant and Seasonal Head Start is reaching a measly 19 percent 
+of the eligible population, and appropriations language 
+directing the Secretary to develop a plan to serve more migrant 
+children, the Secretary has not used his discretion to close 
+the access gap for migrant children. In the 9 years I have been 
+in Congress, this has been one of my biggest concerns, and I 
+don't see it happening.
+    Please break down for me the $897 million in big 
+categories, how it is being spent by HHS.
+    Mr. Horn. I would be pleased to present that and give that 
+to you for the record. I don't have those numbers in front of 
+me right now, but let me respond to the 19 percent figure.
+    When it comes to the migrant program, the denominator is 
+all children zero to five. When it comes to enrollment of 
+children in Head Start, the denominator is 3- and 4-year-olds. 
+You are going to get a smaller percentage because your 
+denominator is over 5 years, zero to five, and there are more 
+kids. Whereas in the Head Start program, the denominator is 2 
+years of kids, 3- and 4-year-olds. What we have to start to do 
+is look at apples and apples and not apples and oranges when it 
+compares to the enrollment of children in those two programs.
+    The other thing I would say is that we have made a very 
+special effort in the last 3 years in this administration to 
+enroll Hispanic children in the regular Head Start program. We 
+distributed, as far as I know for the very first time, Spanish 
+language television and radio PSAs specifically targeting 
+Hispanic and Latino families to encourage them to enroll in 
+Head Start. We have been working with chronically under-
+enrolled Head Start programs who--one of the reasons they are 
+often under-enrolled is they aren't very effective at reaching 
+out to Hispanic and Latino families. We are working with them 
+to do that. We held the first-ever Hispanic Institute for Head 
+Start just a month or so ago. And in fact, the result of that 
+is that we now serve a greater number of Hispanic and Latino 
+children in Head Start than we do any other subgroup. 
+Historically, that that has not been the case. Historically, 
+the largest subgroup that we serve is African American 
+children. And this year is the first time that we are seeing 
+the plurality of children are actually of Hispanic and Latino 
+descent.
+    Mr. Hinojosa. Your response is one that is very 
+bureaucratic, and I am not going to accept that because we are 
+dealing with the total number from zero to five, and that the 
+Head Start children are just for the 2 years, that this 19 
+percent of the eligible population of those children from the 
+migrant and seasonal workers is OK.
+    I have said it is not OK 9 years ago, and I don't see you 
+or anyone changing the numbers in a way that we compare apples 
+to apples and we get the number to at least 50 percent of the 
+eligible children.
+    That you are bringing up some Spanish language and Spanish 
+written material, I accept that. I have seen the improvement in 
+some of the materials that are coming to our children. My 
+problem, my concern, is that we don't reach 50 percent instead 
+of the numbers that we have gotten for the 9 years I have been 
+in Congress. If you want to compare apples to apples, do it. Do 
+it so we can have something that we can really measure the 
+outreach of. And I would love to see the report that gives me 
+the answer to my question, how you are using the $900 million 
+of that 13 percent of Head Start funding.
+    With that, Mr. Chairman, I return the balance of my time.
+    Chairman Boehner. The Chair recognizes the gentlelady from 
+Virginia, Ms. Drake.
+    Mrs. Drake. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    First of all, I would like to thank you all for being here. 
+Your testimony has raised a lot of questions in my mind. I 
+think you can hear tremendous support for Head Start. We 
+realize the value of it and realize the value of continuing 
+very good programs. But I think after a program has been in 
+place for 40 years and we hear the kind of abuses that we are 
+hearing about, it is very upsetting to think that we haven't 
+determined a better way to monitor this program.
+    And I would like to know from you, Mr. Horn, these cases 
+that we read about in the cities that were cited, are these 
+programs that you were already investigating or maybe they were 
+in an appeal process? Or were they new to you when the press 
+reported some of these abuses with credit cards, vehicles, 
+salaries?
+    Mr. Horn. I think it is quite variable. In some cases we 
+were involved, and in some cases the inspector general's office 
+was involved, and in other cases we were not.
+    Mrs. Drake. When they file these reports with the 1700-and-
+some boxes with the information that you want, does somebody 
+actually review that information; or are there certain 
+components that they look at based on are they self-certifying, 
+or are they ones you need to look more closely?
+    Mr. Horn. Are you referring to the PRISM review information 
+or the program information report?
+    Mrs. Drake. You mentioned that they have to file a report, 
+but there seems to be no consequences from that report.
+    Mr. Horn. Well, we have implemented a policy that says that 
+except in--that the exception shall be, if there are instances 
+of noncompliance, the exception shall be self-certification as 
+opposed to the acceptable means of dealing with noncompliances; 
+that noncompliances in the future, except for when we are 
+talking about relatively noncompliances, shall be certified by 
+a visit directly to the Head Start grantee.
+    I think that is going to go to a long way to ensuring that 
+the kind of situation that the GAO talked about between 2000 
+and 2002 doesn't occur; that we actually show that changes have 
+been made.
+    Mrs. Drake. I think one of the questions I had as well is, 
+are these people that are so blatantly abusing the program--and 
+I think we are very angry about that, because those are 
+children we aren't serving--are they providing you fraudulent 
+data on those forms, or are they coming right out and telling 
+you this?
+    Mr. Horn. I doubt the ones that are using the money to 
+support their private restaurant business are reporting that to 
+us on that form. Let me clarify one thing. It is perfectly 
+possible for someone to have inadequate fiscal controls and 
+still provide a quality environment in the classroom for 
+children.
+    Mrs. Drake. If they are spending money on their restaurant 
+or their vehicle--
+    Mr. Horn. That is not an excuse for fiscal mismanagement. 
+Some are suggesting that, gee, because we have data that shows 
+that classroom quality is high in most Head Start classrooms, 
+that therefore that is a reflection of good fiscal management. 
+Well, not necessarily. You could have very poor fiscal 
+mismanagement, have someone paying themselves an exorbitant 
+salary, and yet have reasonable good quality in the classroom 
+itself.
+    But your point is exactly correct. The reason it is so 
+important for us to do a better job of fiscal oversight is 
+because every dollar wasted is a dollar that is not going to 
+services for kids. That is the real tragedy here. When somebody 
+is being given a Mercedes SUV as part of their compensation 
+package, that is money not going to kids. And that is why we 
+need to do a better job.
+    Mrs. Drake. Is it true that you have to fund the cost of 
+that program's appeal?
+    Mr. Horn. Yes.
+    Mrs. Drake. Why wouldn't people appeal if it isn't a cost?
+    Mr. Chairman, I know I am running out of time. What I am 
+hoping that we will do is look at what we are asking of these 
+programs, what should be the process to determine they are 
+doing a good job; maybe set up a way to help them if they are 
+not; but ones that are doing blatant things like this, that 
+they just be terminated immediately. Whether it is America or 
+not, I think it is criminal.
+    Mr. Horn. One last clarification. The notion that we cannot 
+move to restrict funding or terminate funding during the course 
+of an appeal is somewhat unique to the Head Start program. That 
+is not something that we generally do with grants from the 
+Federal Government. And most grant programs from the Federal 
+Government to a local program, if we believe that they are 
+underperforming or engaging in--lack of internal controls and 
+so forth, we can defund them immediately and then the appeals 
+process is still available to them, but we don't have to 
+continue to provide them with funds while the appeal is going 
+on. That is what is unique about this program. And that is a 
+problem--if in fact we can move directly and terminate their 
+funding without a change in the statute, please let us know 
+that, because we don't believe the statute allows us to do 
+that.
+    Mrs. Drake. In those other programs, do you also fund their 
+appeal like you do in Head Start?
+    Mr. Horn. No.
+    Mrs. Drake. Mr. Chairman, I hope those are things that we 
+look at.
+    Chairman Boehner. It is clearly under advisement. The Chair 
+recognizes the gentleman from Nebraska, Mr. Osborne.
+    Mr. Osborne. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to thank 
+Members of the panel for being here today and being so patient.
+    I know this is about Head Start. I would like to make a 
+somewhat broader comment. There was a White House report that 
+came out a couple of years ago that indicated there are roughly 
+150 different youth-serving programs under the auspices of the 
+Federal Government, and there was quite a bit of concern in 
+this report. Obviously, Head Start is one of those 150. But the 
+report basically said that there is a little coordination 
+between programs, little evaluation of programs to see if they 
+are really doing what they are designed to do. In some cases, 
+the statute actually prevented people from one agency talking 
+with individuals in another agency who may have a similar 
+program. And so there is quite a bit of frustration among 
+youth-serving programs around the country. And they approached 
+us and others and said, you know, we would like to see 
+something where we could pull all of these programs at least 
+under one umbrella, and take a look at them and make sure there 
+is not duplication and make sure there is not waste, fraud and 
+abuse, and make sure they are fulfilling their purpose and make 
+sure there are quantifiable, measurable goals that they are 
+attempting to meet.
+    And so we have introduced a Federal Youth Coordination Act. 
+But just a couple of examples of these concerns would be--we 
+have talked about Head Start today; but, for instance, a child 
+that is in foster care has to go to four or five different 
+agencies, and if you are in foster care it is pretty difficult 
+to negotiate that jungle. As part of the reauthorization of the 
+Elementary and Secondary Education Act a couple years ago, we 
+included an amendment for mentoring for success, and there were 
+two objectives to that. One was to broaden mentoring to provide 
+some money. But the second was to determine what programs 
+worked--you know there are all kinds of mentoring programs, 
+there are school-based, faith-based, there are one-to-one, 
+there are 1-to-10, over the Internet--and also to determine are 
+some programs saying let us cut drug and alcohol abuse by 50 
+percent? Is that true? We haven't been able to get an answer. 
+The President's budget zeroed out this particular program and 
+said it hasn't fulfilled its purpose. The program was what we 
+have outlined and we can't get any answer as to any evaluation 
+that has been done. We have been trying to. The money has been 
+distributed, but what we wanted to do was to try to get a 
+handle on what works.
+    So that is just sort of an editorial comment and I would 
+like to proceed with a couple of questions, having gotten that 
+off my chest.
+    Ms. Henry, you haven't had a lot of questions here. How 
+long did the problems continue without action being taken? Is 
+there a time lag? How long a delay was there?
+    Ms. Henry. For many years prior to my involvement, they 
+have been happening, you know, the continuous deficiencies and 
+everything that has been happening. In Nevada, it has been 
+going on many years prior to my involvement.
+    Mr. Osborne. Dr. Shaul, how do you believe that competition 
+will help address the problems in communities served by poorly 
+serving grantees? I think you talked about competition being 
+important.
+    Ms. Shaul. Currently it appears as though it has been 
+difficult for the agency to replace grantees quickly. And we 
+believe that many grant programs do have an annual renewal 
+process. And we were not recommending recompetition at renewal 
+time for every grantee. But for grantees who are not performing 
+well, we believe that at renewal time, that would be a good 
+opportunity to give others in the community who might be able 
+to provide good services for children the opportunity to put in 
+an application and compete on a level playing field with the 
+current grantee and to have some determination made about which 
+of the entities might be able to best serve the children in the 
+community.
+    Mr. Osborne. And, Dr. Horn, this may be repetitious, and I 
+had to step out and if this was asked before, please let me 
+know. The study noted when Health and Human Services sent 
+different review teams to the same grantee, they often came 
+back with different results. And do you see any solution to 
+this, or do you have any idea why this was happening?
+    Mr. Horn. In particular, the study we did had to deal with 
+erroneous payments where the regular PRISM review team went to 
+the local grantees, and a piece of that PRISM review is to look 
+at whether children who are ineligible for the program are 
+being served, and to the extent to which those erroneous 
+payments are being made. And then we sent specialized people in 
+to look at the same data and they came back with two different 
+conclusions.
+    And that has led us in two places: First of all, better 
+training for review teams, the standard review teams on this 
+issue. The other thing we are implementing, which I think is 
+consistent with the GAO's recommendations, is this idea of 
+rereviewing a certain percentage of local programs that are 
+reviewed in the course of any given year by a specialized team 
+that will review them across the 10 regions. What they will 
+serve is as calibrators, if you will, for the adequacy, the 
+reliability, and the validity of the general review teams that 
+are sent out to the local programs.
+    So we review a third of the local grantees as we normally 
+do, but then we would send out these specialized review teams 
+to a random sample of those grantees to rereview them to make 
+sure we are applying the standards consistently across the 
+various regions and across the various review teams.
+    Mr. Osborne. I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
+    Mr. Castle. [Presiding] Mr. Price is recognized.
+    Mr. Price. I appreciate that, Mr. Chairman. Now is the time 
+you can ask questions and really get the truth. I want to thank 
+each of you for coming as well, and for testifying, and I have 
+concerns, like all of the Committee Members do, about Head 
+Start and not about its mission. Obviously, its mission is 
+noble. One of the things that may be that when a mission is so 
+noble, it may be that accountability and oversight gets less, 
+because anybody that questions the program itself then is 
+questioned for questioning whether or not the program itself 
+ought to continue, which isn't what we are talking about at 
+all.
+    But I have a very simple question, and it may be too simple 
+but I don't know. And that is, when I look over the numbers 
+that have been presented in the budget, I think that we are 
+spending $6.8 billion, about, for a Head Start program that 
+provides services to 919,000 or thereabouts children. Are those 
+numbers accurate?
+    Mr. Horn. Yes.
+    Mr. Price. 6.8 billion. If my calculator is working 
+correctly, that means we are spending about $7,400 per child?
+    Mr. Horn. It is a bit more, because what that calculation 
+does not take into account is services that are provided to 
+Head Start through other funding sources; for example, the food 
+nutrition program, the child care, and also Medicaid.
+    Mr. Price. I was being conservative. So the question is are 
+we getting our money's worth?
+    Dr. Golden. I don't know if I could comment on that, 
+because that is a really important question and one that as a 
+researcher is very dear to me. One of the things that Head 
+Start has, that goes to the several earlier comments about 
+evaluation, is that very few other Federal programs have very 
+detailed research, sort of meeting the gold standard of 
+research, meaning children in the program compared to 
+comparable children outside, that helps you answer both what 
+you are accomplishing and how much are you paying for it and 
+how much is the benefit.
+    In early Head Start, which is the program for babies and 
+toddlers, it is a bit more expensive than that, because, as you 
+know, in any State or in any circumstance, high-quality care 
+for very young children is more expensive because you need an 
+adult to be with fewer children.
+    Dr. Golden. There we have evaluation research showing the 
+effects on kids in terms of fewer of them, for example, in the 
+range that would be likely to target them for special ed for 
+disabilities. So we are seeing learning improvements that take 
+kids out of some of these expensive later experiences.
+    We have new information, I think, about early Head Start 
+bringing the kids up to about 4 years that should be--I think 
+will be--out this week. And then the equivalent evaluation 
+study about Head Start as a whole, there is a lag time in 
+research, so I had the chance to chair the group that designed 
+it when I was at HHS. But I gather that that will be out, I 
+hope, within weeks, perhaps months, in any case, in time for 
+this Committee to consider it. So I think one of the advantages 
+of Head Start is that whereas with some programs, you would 
+just have to guess or you would have to say there are lots of 
+early childhood programs out there and they show a four-to-one 
+return on expenditures; with Head Start there is actually some 
+additional detailed information to help the Committee look at 
+that.
+    Mr. Price. Dr. Horn, do you want to comment? Are we getting 
+our money's worth?
+    Mr. Horn. Well, first of all, I would say that when she 
+chaired the committee to design the implementation of the 
+national impact study, she invited me to serve on the 
+committee, so we both have an investment in that project. I 
+think it is a well designed project and, for the first time, 
+will allow us to serve with a national representative sample 
+randomly assigned to Head Start, not Head Start, be able to 
+determine what the true impact of Head Start is.
+    Mr. Price. The answer is, we don't know. Is that accurate?
+    Mr. Horn. I think the--I mean, my feeling is that we know 
+some things. I think the data is strong enough for us to say, 
+all things being equal, it is better for kids in economically 
+disadvantaged circumstances to get a quality program such as 
+Head Start than not.
+    Mr. Price. When folks in my neighborhood want their 
+children who aren't Head Start eligible to go to a program that 
+is similar to Head Start, the cost of that program is markedly 
+less than $7,400 a year. So I would hope that, in this process 
+that we are going through, Mr. Chairman, and as we try improve 
+this program, we look at where the efficiencies are that can be 
+derived from the program that make it so that we are driving as 
+much money to the child and not wasting money along the way, 
+which I fear we are doing.
+    Mr. Horn. I agree with that 1,000 percent.
+    Mr. Price. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
+    Mr. Castle. [Presiding.] Thank you, Mr. Price.
+    And I think we have reached the end. And let me just thank 
+all the Members who are here and able to ask questions.
+    But I would like to particularly thank those of you who 
+came from near and far to testify and answer our questions here 
+today. We appreciate it a great deal, and all those who 
+participated by being witnesses to all this today.
+    With that, we stand adjourned.
+    [Whereupon, at 4:15 p.m., the Committee was adjourned.]
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