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+[House Hearing, 110 Congress] +[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] + + + + THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC + ADMINISTRATION (NOAA) FISCAL YEAR 2008 + BUDGET PROPOSAL +======================================================================= + HEARING + + BEFORE THE + + SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND + ENVIRONMENT + + COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY + HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES + + ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS + + FIRST SESSION + + __________ + + MARCH 22, 2007 + + __________ + + Serial No. 110-16 + + __________ + + Printed for the use of the Committee on Science and Technology + + + Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.house.gov/science + + ______ + + U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE + +34-014 PDF WASHINGTON DC: 2007 +--------------------------------------------------------------------- +For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing +Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866)512-1800 +DC area (202)512-1800 Fax: (202) 512-2250 Mail Stop SSOP, +Washington, DC 20402-0001 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY + + HON. BART GORDON, Tennessee, Chairman +JERRY F. COSTELLO, Illinois RALPH M. HALL, Texas +EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER JR., +LYNN C. WOOLSEY, California Wisconsin +MARK UDALL, Colorado LAMAR S. SMITH, Texas +DAVID WU, Oregon DANA ROHRABACHER, California +BRIAN BAIRD, Washington KEN CALVERT, California +BRAD MILLER, North Carolina ROSCOE G. BARTLETT, Maryland +DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois VERNON J. EHLERS, Michigan +NICK LAMPSON, Texas FRANK D. LUCAS, Oklahoma +GABRIELLE GIFFORDS, Arizona JUDY BIGGERT, Illinois +JERRY MCNERNEY, California W. TODD AKIN, Missouri +PAUL KANJORSKI, Pennsylvania JO BONNER, Alabama +DARLENE HOOLEY, Oregon TOM FEENEY, Florida +STEVEN R. ROTHMAN, New Jersey RANDY NEUGEBAUER, Texas +MICHAEL M. HONDA, California BOB INGLIS, South Carolina +JIM MATHESON, Utah DAVID G. REICHERT, Washington +MIKE ROSS, Arkansas MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas +BEN CHANDLER, Kentucky MARIO DIAZ-BALART, Florida +RUSS CARNAHAN, Missouri PHIL GINGREY, Georgia +CHARLIE MELANCON, Louisiana BRIAN P. BILBRAY, California +BARON P. HILL, Indiana ADRIAN SMITH, Nebraska +HARRY E. MITCHELL, Arizona +CHARLES A. WILSON, Ohio + ------ + + Subcommittee on Energy and Environment + + HON. NICK LAMPSON, Texas, Chairman +JERRY F. COSTELLO, Illinois BOB INGLIS, South Carolina +LYNN C. WOOLSEY, California ROSCOE G. BARTLETT, Maryland +DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois JUDY BIGGERT, Illinois +GABRIELLE GIFFORDS, Arizona W. TODD AKIN, Missouri +JERRY MCNERNEY, California RANDY NEUGEBAUER, Texas +MARK UDALL, Colorado MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas +BRIAN BAIRD, Washington MARIO DIAZ-BALART, Florida +PAUL KANJORSKI, Pennsylvania +BART GORDON, Tennessee RALPH M. HALL, Texas + JEAN FRUCI Democratic Staff Director + CHRIS KING Democratic Professional Staff Member + SHIMERE WILLIAMS Democratic Professional Staff Member + ELAINE PAULIONIS Democratic Professional Staff Member + STACEY STEEP Research Assistant + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + C O N T E N T S + + March 22, 2007 + + Page +Witness List..................................................... 2 + +Hearing Charter.................................................. 3 + + Opening Statements + +Statement by Representative Nick Lampson, Chairman, Subcommittee + on Energy and Environment, Committee on Science and Technology, + U.S. House of Representatives.................................. 8 + Written Statement............................................ 9 + +Statement by Representative Bob Inglis, Ranking Minority Member, + Subcommittee on Energy and Environment, Committee on Science + and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives.................. 9 + Written Statement............................................ 10 + +Prepared Statement by Representative Jerry F. Costello, Member, + Subcommittee on Energy and Environment, Committee on Science + and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives.................. 10 + + Witnesses: + +Vice Admiral Conrad Lautenbacher, Jr. (U.S. Navy, Ret.), Under + Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and NOAA + Administrator, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, + U.S. Department of Commerce + Oral Statement............................................... 11 + Written Statement............................................ 13 + Biography.................................................... 19 + +Dr. Len Pietrafesa, Associate Dean, Office of External Affairs; + Professor of Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences, College of + Physical and Mathematical Sciences, North Carolina State + University + Oral Statement............................................... 20 + Written Statement............................................ 22 + Biography.................................................... 33 + +Discussion + National Weather Service Operations............................ 33 + National Polar Orbiting Operational Environmental Satellite + System (NPOESS).............................................. 35 + Wildfire and Drought Warnings.................................. 35 + Insufficient Funding Levels.................................... 36 + Law Enforcement Capability..................................... 37 + Research Capability............................................ 38 + National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS)....................... 39 + Satellite Capability........................................... 42 + International Collaboration.................................... 44 + More on the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS)........... 45 + Climate Change................................................. 46 + More on the NPOESS............................................. 47 + Water Monitoring Programs...................................... 49 + New Programs................................................... 49 + Hurricane Forecasting.......................................... 51 + More on Insufficient Funding................................... 53 + Water Conservation............................................. 54 + + Appendix 1: Answers to Post-Hearing Questions + +Vice Admiral Conrad Lautenbacher, Jr. (U.S. Navy, Ret.), Under + Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and NOAA + Administrator, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, + U.S. Department of Commerce.................................... 60 + +Dr. Len Pietrafesa, Associate Dean, Office of External Affairs; + Professor of Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences, College of + Physical and Mathematical Sciences, North Carolina State + University..................................................... 62 + + Appendix 2: Additional Material for the Record + +Statement by Dr. Braxton C. Davis, Director, Science and Policy + Division, Office of Ocean and Coastal Resource Management, + South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control.. 66 + + +THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION (NOAA) FISCAL YEAR + 2008 BUDGET PROPOSAL + + ---------- + + + THURSDAY, MARCH 22, 2007 + + House of Representatives, + Subcommittee on Energy and Environment, + Committee on Science and Technology, + Washington, DC. + + The Subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 2:00 p.m., in +Room 2318 of the Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Nick +Lampson [Chairman of the Subcommittee] presiding. + +[GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] + + hearing charter + + SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT + + COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY + + U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES + + The National Oceanic and Atmospheric + + Administration (NOAA) Fiscal Year 2008 + + Budget Proposal + + thursday, march 22, 2007 + 2:00 p.m.-4:00 p.m. + 2318 rayburn house office building + +Purpose + + On Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 2:00 p.m. the House Committee on +Science and Technology's Subcommittee on Energy and Environment will +hold a hearing to examine the National Oceanic and Atmospheric +Administration (NOAA) fiscal year 2008 (FY08) budget proposal. + +Witnesses + +Vice Admiral Conrad Lautenbacher, Jr., Under Secretary of Commerce for +Oceans and Atmosphere and Administrator, National Oceanic and +Atmospheric Administration + +Dr. Len Pietrafesa, Associate Dean, Office of External Affairs, +Professor of Ocean & Atmospheric Sciences, College of Physical & +Mathematical Sciences, North Carolina State University + +Background + + The President's FY 2008 budget request for the National Oceanic and +Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is $3.96 billion, 2.7 percent below +the FY 2006 appropriated funding. + NOAA's mission includes weather forecasting, climate prediction, +management of fisheries and coastal and ocean resources. In addition, +NOAA is responsible for mapping and charting our coastal areas and +providing other navigation support services through programs of the +National Ocean Service (NOS). NOAA also conducts research in support of +these missions including atmospheric sciences, coastal and oceanic +science, climate and air quality research, ecosystem research, and +fisheries and marine mammal research. NOAA also operates a +constellation of satellites that monitor and transmit data for weather +forecasting, climate prediction, space weather forecasting, and Earth +and ocean science research through the National Environmental Satellite +Data and Information Service (NESDIS). + The President's requests for NOAA routinely exclude funding for a +wide array of Congressionally-mandated projects with some of this +funding is re-directed to Presidential priorities. However, much of +this funding is simply cut from the NOAA budget resulting in a lower +funding request for NOAA. This is especially true for accounts in NOS +which has the highest number of Congressionally-mandated activities. + The table below shows the six primary accounts of the agency's +budget. The only line office receiving a substantial increase in the FY +2008 request is the National Weather Service (NWS). The FY 2008 request +would result in funding levels below FY 2006 appropriations for all +other offices, with NOS receiving the largest reduction of $122 +million, a 21 percent reduction. + +[GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] + + +National Weather Service: + + The National Weather Service (NWS) provides weather, hydrologic, +and climate forecasts and warnings for the United States, adjacent +waters, and ocean areas for the protection of life and property. NWS +provides a national infrastructure to gather and process data worldwide +from the land, sea, and air. + The NWS is the only line office that receives a substantial +increase in the President's FY 2008 request. The FY 2008 request for +NWS is 6.5 percent higher than the 2006 enacted levels. Three areas +account for most (about 84 percent) of the $55.3 million increase: +mandatory federal pay raises ($18.3 million); operation and maintenance +of the Advanced Weather Interactive Processing System (AWIPS), +Automated Surface Observing System (ASOS), and Next Generation Weather +Radar (NEXRAD) ($11.3 million); and the expansion of the Tsunami +Warning Network ($17.2 million). + AWIPS is the specialized software package that enables forecasters +to prepare accurate, timely forecasts and warnings. ASOS is composed of +the sensors needed to measure and record significant weather +conditions. NEXRAD is the radar system that shows patterns and movement +of weather conditions. + The increases for the Tsunami network involves funds to repair one +of the weather data buoys that add to the enhanced real-time hurricane +observations and storm monitoring as well as complete the 39 DART buoy +network system. The completion of the tsunami detection network expands +NWS's operational capabilities. + However, this is the only area where the Administration proposes to +make an investment in improved forecasting to protect life and +property. If funds for the mandatory pay raise and tsunami network +expansion are excluded from the FY 2008 request, the proposed NWS +budget increase is a little over two percent. The Tsunami Hazard +Mitigation Program was moved from Oceanic and Atmospheric Research +(OAR) with a request of $2.1 million. + NWS also requests a $1.9 million increase to fund operations, +maintenance and transition costs associated with the planned frequency +conversion and technical updating of the NOAA Wind Profiler Network +(NPN). The NPN improves NWS forecast capability during tornadoes, +winter storms, and other severe storms improving their ability to +provide aviation and fire weather warnings. The NPN has been in a +quasi-operational status. The funds requested will provide for the +transition of the NPN to full operational status. + NOAA requests an increase of $2.3 million for the Space Environment +Center (SEC) over the FY 2006 enacted funding level. The $6.2 million +request will support SEC real-time monitoring and forecasting of solar +and geophysical events. This will support the space weather alerts and +warnings for disturbances that can affect satellite operations, +electric utility transmission equipment, astronauts working in the +space station and people in aircraft flying along polar flight paths. + This FY 2008 request increase may not be sufficient to fully cover +all operational and maintenance requirements for current weather +forecasting equipment especially if we experience a year with high +frequency of severe weather events and hurricanes that often result in +damage or loss to weather monitoring and forecasting equipment. This +level of funding will not enable NWS to move new monitoring and +forecasting equipment from research to fully operational mode. + +National Environmental Satellite Data and Information Service (NESDIS): + + The President's budget FY 2008 budget request would increase the +overall NESDIS budget increased by three percent ($26 million +increase). The budget for NESDIS is dominated by the procurement, +acquisitions and construction (PAC) accounts for the polar and +geostationary satellite systems. + The Operations, Research and Facilities (ORF) account for NESDIS +contains the programmatic funding for management, processing, +analyzing, and archiving the data received from all of NOAA's weather +monitoring equipment--both ground-based and space-based. This program +account includes funds for data processing and analyses at data centers +located in Kentucky, North Carolina, Maryland, and West Virginia. + This account also supports a number of regional climate centers. +The FY 2008 request for these accounts is $20 million below the FY 2006 +enacted levels. The FY 2008 request also eliminates $4 million in +funding for NOAA-NASA Partnerships to facilitate the transfer of +research to operations. The Data Centers and Information Services +accounts are reduced by $18 million from the FY 2006 enacted levels. +NESDIS Procurement, Acquisitions and Construction (PAC) Accounts: + NOAA operates two satellite systems that collect data for weather +forecasting. The polar satellites (Polar-Orbiting Environmental +Satellites--POES) orbit the Earth and provide information for medium to +long-range weather forecasts. The geostationary satellites (GOES) +gather data above a fixed position on the Earth's surface and provide +information for short-range warnings and current weather conditions. +Both of these systems are scheduled for replacement through the NPOESS +and GOES-R programs, respectively. Because of the long time period +required to design and develop new satellite series, the procurement of +a new series begins years before the current series has completed its +production cycle. Therefore, NOAA's procurement budget in this area +includes both funds to complete and launch current weather satellites +(POES and GOES) and funds to design and develop the next generation of +weather satellites (NPOESS and GOES-R). + The current series of Geostationary Operational Environmental +Satellites (GOES-N, O and P) are nearing completion. GOES-N was +launched last May. The FY 2008 request of $80.4 million will support +the continued development, procurement and launch of the remaining GOES +satellites scheduled for April 2007 and October 2008, respectively. The +request for GOES-R, the new series of geostationary satellites ($279 +million) has been reduced from the original FY 2008 estimate ($532 +million) to reflect changes in the program's content (reducing the +number of instruments and planned number of satellites) and to provide +additional time to re-structure the program. + The current series of Polar-Orbiting Environmental Satellites +(POES) is nearing the end of its production cycle. There is one +remaining satellite in this series to be launched (POES N-Prime). This +satellite was damaged in production in 2003. Problems with the new +series of polar satellites, National Polar Orbiting Environmental +Satellite System (NPOESS) has resulted in a delay for the first launch +of an NPOESS satellite. To decrease the risk of gaps in weather data +from these satellites, the last POES satellite will now be launched in +2009. The original planned request for POES in FY 2008 was $62 million. +The FY 2008 request is $43 million above the original estimate for FY +2008 provided in the FY 2007 request. The extra funds are to cover +costs for rebuilding and storage costs for N-Prime, support for testing +of a European satellite, installation of NOAA instrumentation on a +European satellite, and to restore N-Prime funding that was re-directed +to POES-N due to an unplanned delay in the launch of the POES-N +satellite. + The request for NPOESS, the new polar satellite series, is $331 +million. This is $13 million less than the planned FY 2008 request +included in the FY 2007 budget. The funding will cover the continued +development, production and risk reduction activities for the four key +instruments to be included on the test satellite, the NPOESS +Preparatory Project (NPP), scheduled for launch in 2010. Funding for +this program will be officially re-evaluated and estimated and the +prime contract will be re-negotiated later this year. + +Oceanic and Atmospheric Research: + + The office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (OAR) is the primary +research arm of NOAA that provides the scientific information and tools +needed for better understanding of the oceans and atmosphere. OAR +conducts the scientific research, environmental studies, and technology +development needed to improve NOAA's operations. OAR consists of seven +internal research laboratories and manages extramural research at 30 +National Sea Grant colleges and universities. Therefore, OAR contains +over half of the research programs at NOAA. These programs are reduced +by nearly $11 million below the FY 2006 enacted levels an approximate +three percent reduction. + NOAA's FY 2008 budget request for Climate Research increases by $23 +million (13.5 percent) over FY 2006 enacted funding. Most of this +increase is in the competitive research program and is accomplished by +redirection of funds from Congressionally-mandated projects. This +includes $50 million for Laboratories and Cooperative Institutes and +Climate Data and $133 million for the Competitive Research Program. A +portion of this increase of $5 million will enhance our understanding +of the link between ocean currents and rapid climate change. An +additional $1 million in funding will provide additional computational +support for assessing abrupt climate change. + The Administration's FY 2008 NOAA budget reflects an increase in +requested funds for ocean activities included in the Ocean Action Plan +(OAP) and the recently released Ocean Research Priorities Plan (ORPP). +The FY 2008 NOAA budget includes $143 million to support three major +areas outlined in the OAP: (1) Enhanced ocean science and research; (2) +Protection and restoration of sensitive marine and coastal areas; and +(3) Ensuring sustainable use of ocean resources. + The FY 2008 budget includes funding for several important ocean and +coastal programs for the first time and the FY 2008 budget request is +higher than the FY 2007 request. However, the $143 million provided in +the Ocean Action Plan represents a decrease of over $200 million from +the FY 2006 request for ocean, Great Lakes, and fisheries programs at +NOAA. The Integrated Ocean Observing System (IOOS) receives a request +of $11.5 million for regional observations. + The Administration's budget once again cuts the Ocean, Coastal, and +Great Lake Research account below previous years' funding. The FY 2006 +appropriation level is reduced from $127 million to $105 million, a 17 +percent decrease for these programs. + Sea Grant receives a very small increase ($166 thousand), and the +Administration requests an increase for Ocean Exploration of about $14 +million. The Administration proposed last year to merge the National +Undersea Research Program (NURP) with the Ocean Exploration Program. +The budget appears to reflect this proposal. All funding for NURP is +eliminated ($9 million). Again, the largest reduction comes through the +elimination of Congressionally-mandated projects under the category of +Other Partnership Programs. + The FY 2008 budget request for programs authorized in the Harmful +Algal Bloom and Hypoxia Research and Control Act (HABHRCA) is $8.9 +million, a $9.5 million decrease from FY 2006 funding. HABHRCA +authorizes funding for research on harmful algal blooms (HABs) and +hypoxia to advance scientific understanding and our ability to detect, +assess, predict, control, and mitigate these events. + Weather and Air Quality research accounts are reduced in the FY +2008 request by $21 million dollars (30 percent decrease) from the FY +2006 enacted levels. The Laboratories and Joint Institutes would +receive about $6 million above FY 2006 enacted levels, but the other +Partnership Programs are reduced by $25 million with the elimination of +over a dozen Congressionally-mandated projects. + The OAR budget also contains funding for the High-Performance +Computing and Communication (HPCC) program. NOAA relies upon +sophisticated computer models to make major improvements in NOAA's +ability to forecast the weather and climate and to model ecosystems and +ocean processes. The FY 2008 budget request proposes $12.97 million, a +$6.6 million increase for this program. + +National Ocean Service: + + The National Ocean Service (NOS) protects the National Marine +Sanctuaries and is an advocate for coastal and ocean stewardship. It +also introduced electronic nautical charts which they combine with +Global Positioning Systems (GPS) to enhance the safety and efficiency +of navigation of U.S. waterways. The President's FY 2008 request for +NOS would reduce funding for NOS programs by over 20 percent. The +largest reductions are in the Ocean Assessment program ($36 million) +and in the Response and Restoration program ($13 million) of the Ocean +Resources, Conservation and Assessment accounts. + Funding for Navigational Services including mapping and charting +and geodetic surveys (measuring and monitoring the size and shape of +the Earth and locating points on its surface) would be reduced by over +$5 million in the FY 2008 request. + The Ocean and Coastal Zone Management accounts would receive about +$4 million additional in funding primarily through an increase in the +request for funds in the Marine Sanctuary program. + +Program Support: + + The Program Support account includes funding for corporate services +and agency management. This is the Under Secretary's office, the office +of the Chief Financial Officer, and the Program, Planning and +Integration Office. + The Program Support account also includes the NOAA Education +Program. Overall, the Program Support account is reduced by about 10 +percent as compared to the FY 2006 enacted level. Most of this +reduction is due to a reduction in the procurement accounts. + However, the proposed funding for NOAA education programs is also +reduced significantly below the $38 million enacted for these programs +in FY 2006 to a proposed funding level of $19 million (48 percent +reduction). NOAA plans to provide lower funding levels for the Hollings +Scholarship ($3.7 million); the Nancy Foster Scholarship ($400,000); +JASON Education and Outreach ($1 million) and the Education Partnership +Program ($14 million). + With a nearly fifty-percent cut to the Education Program, the +promotion of careers in environmental sciences to ensure future +workforce in disciplines critical to NOAA's mission is undermined. + Chairman Lampson. I will call this meeting to order. I wish +everyone a good afternoon. Welcome everyone to today's +Subcommittee hearing on the National Oceanic and Atmospheric +Administration Fiscal Year 2008 Budget Request. This important +agency provides warnings to our citizens of severe weather, +charts our seas and skies, guides the management of our ocean +and coastal resources and conducts research to improve our +understanding of the environment. + NOAA is a diverse agency with many important missions and +responsibilities. However, issuing watches and warnings of +severe storms may be the role for which NOAA is most famous. In +Texas we experience storms every year in the form of tornadoes +and hurricanes. In 2005, the Gulf Coast experienced one of the +worst natural disasters in American history when Hurricanes +Katrina and Rita slammed into our coastline back to back. Texas +was hit especially hard by Rita causing billions of dollars in +damage. Fortunately, many lives were saved as a result of the +forecasting done by NOAA's National Hurricane Center and the +local forecasting offices of the National Weather Service. + Accurate prediction of hurricanes and other severe storms +and sound management of our ocean and coastal resources can +only be achieved through sound investments in the personnel, +equipment, and research at NOAA. + While there are some encouraging features of this year's +budget request for NOAA, the Administration has once again +requested less funding for 2008 than Congress appropriated in +past years. The Administration's budget provides few +opportunities to expand NOAA capacity to fulfill its diverse +missions. If NOAA is to advance its capabilities to forecast +the weather, if we are to restore our fisheries and coastal +ecosystems to a productive and healthy state, if we are to +advance our understanding of the oceans and the atmosphere, we +must invest additional funds in this agency. I have said it a +thousand times that an investment will give us significant +return when we make those investments, if they are done right. + We continue to be concerned about the procurements for the +new polar and geostationary weather satellite systems. It is +essential that we have these new systems completed and +delivered in time to avoid any gaps in coverage of weather +data. I am also concerned about the long-term implications of +the cost overruns in the polar satellite program, NPOESS, for +NOAA's budget in the future. The Committee will continue to +follow both of these procurements closely. + On the positive side, the Administration included funding +for an integrated ocean observing system, funding for the +National Integrated Drought Information System, NOAA's wind +profilers, and funding to complete the Tsunami Warning Network. +I also support the provision of funds to cover the cost of pay +raise for NOAA employees. The work NOAA does every day impacts +our everyday lives and supports our economy. + I look forward to hearing the testimony of our witnesses +who are here today, and I thank you very much, your views on +the Administration's budget proposal, and your recommendations +for improving NOAA's capabilities in the atmospheric and ocean +sciences. + At this time I'd like to recognize our distinguished +Ranking Member, Mr. Inglis, of South Carolina, for his opening +statement. + [The prepared statement of Chairman Lampson follows:] + Prepared Statement of Chairman Nick Lampson + Good Afternoon. I want to welcome everyone to today's Subcommittee +hearing on the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration FY 2008 +budget request. + This important agency provides warnings to our citizens of severe +weather; charts our seas and skies; guides the management of our ocean +and coastal resources; and conducts research to improve our +understanding of the environment. + NOAA is a diverse agency with many important missions and +responsibilities. However, issuing watches and warnings of severe +storms may be the role for which NOAA is the most famous. + In Texas we experience severe storms every year in the form of +tornadoes and hurricanes. In 2005, the Gulf Coast experienced one of +the worst natural disasters in American history when Hurricanes Katrina +and Rita slammed into our coastline back-to-back. + Texas was hit especially hard by Rita, causing billions of dollars +in damage. Fortunately, many lives were saved as a result of the +forecasting done by NOAA's National Hurricane Center and the local +forecasting offices of the National Weather Service. + Accurate prediction of hurricanes and other severe storms and sound +management of our ocean and coastal resources can only be achieved +through sound investments in the personnel, equipment, and research at +NOAA. + While there are some encouraging features of this year's budget +request for NOAA, the Administration has once again requested less +funding for NOAA in 2008 than Congress appropriated in past years. The +Administration's budget provides few opportunities to expand NOAA's +capacity to fulfill its diverse missions. + If NOAA is to advance its capabilities to forecast the weather, if +we are to restore our fisheries and coastal ecosystems to a productive +and healthy state, if we are to advance our understanding of the oceans +and the atmosphere, we must invest additional funds in this agency. + We continue to be concerned about the procurements for the new +polar and geostationary weather satellite systems. It is essential that +we have these new systems completed and delivered in time to avoid any +gaps in coverage of weather data. + I am also concerned about the long-term implications of the cost- +overruns in the polar satellite program--NPOESS--for NOAA's budget in +the future. The Committee will continue to follow both of these +procurements closely. + On the positive side, the Administration included funding for an +integrated ocean observing system, funding for the National Integrated +Drought Information System, NOAA's wind profilers, and funding to +complete the Tsunami Warning Network. I also support the provision of +funds to cover the cost of the pay raise for NOAA employees. + The work NOAA does everyday impacts our everyday lives and supports +our economy. + I look forward to hearing your testimony, your views on the +Administration's budget proposal, and your recommendations for +improving NOAA's capabilities in the atmospheric and ocean sciences. + + Mr. Inglis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for +being here today with us. Good afternoon. This hearing about +the President's fiscal year 2008 request for the National +Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is an important part of +what we do here at the Science Committee. This is a tight +budget climate, and given all the competing demands for federal +resources, this appears to be a balanced budget request for +NOAA. It maintains ongoing operational needs while providing +for some new initiatives that have been recommended by the U.S. +Commission on Ocean Policy. + I am particularly interested in the budget for the National +Weather Service. This arm of NOAA provides vital services that +our citizens and economy depend on every day. My state of South +Carolina faces threats from hurricanes, occasional ice storms, +if you can believe it, and flooding just to name a few. Without +the timely and accurate forecast and warnings provided by the +Weather Service, we would be in the dark about these dangers, +and so I want to make sure that the Weather Service continues +to have the resources to do its great work. + NOAA also provides important information services for other +parts of our coastal communities or other aspects for our +coastal communities. While I recognize that many in the ocean +community would like to see an even larger budget for NOAA, I +would give the Admiral credit for the new initiatives in the +Fiscal Year 2008 Budget Request that reflect priorities in the +President's Ocean Action Plan. At a time when many agencies +face flat or declining budgets, he convinced the Administration +to invest $123 million in programs that will improve our +understanding of stewardship of coastal and ocean resources. We +are grateful for your work on that, Admiral. + Thank you to both of you for being here, and we look +forward to hearing more of the details of the NOAA proposed +budget for 2008. And I yield back the balance of my time, Mr. +Chairman. + [The prepared statement of Mr. Inglis follows:] + Prepared Statement of Representative Bob Inglis + Good afternoon. Thank you, Chairman Lampson, for holding this +hearing about the President's Fiscal Year 2008 request for the National +Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. + Outside this committee, we don't hear much about NOAA, but that's +not because NOAA isn't doing much. The services NOAA provides have +broad applications and impacts, and it's vital that these services have +the resources necessary to continue to do the best job possible. + Take the National Weather Service for example. This arm of NOAA +provides vital services that our citizens and economy depend on every +day. One of those citizens and businessmen is my brother, who operates +a shrimping boat in Bluffton, South Carolina. The timely and accurate +forecasts and warnings provided by the Weather Service enable my +brother to profit from the best weather, and avoid the worst. It's +vital that this, and other services, have the resources necessary to +continue to do the best job possible. + NOAA also provides important information and services for coastal +communities. While I recognize that many in the ocean community would +like to see an even larger budget for NOAA, I want to give Admiral +Lautenbacher credit for the new initiatives in the FY 2008 budget +request that reflect priorities in the President's Ocean Action Plan. +At a time when many agencies face flat or declining budgets, he +convinced the powers that be to invest $123 million in programs that +will improve our understanding and stewardship of coastal and ocean +resources. We should not overlook his good work on that issue. + I thank our witnesses for being here today and look forward to +learning more details about NOAA's proposed FY 2008 budget. + I yield back the balance of my time. + + Chairman Lampson. Thank you, Mr. Inglis. I ask unanimous +consent that all additional opening statements, and we have so +many Members here today, submitted by the Subcommittee Members +be included in the record. Without objection so ordered. + [The prepared statement of Mr. Costello follows:] + Prepared Statement of Representative Jerry F. Costello + Good afternoon. I would like to thank the witnesses for appearing +before our subcommittee today to discuss the President's fiscal year +2008 (FY08) budget proposal for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric +Administration (NOAA). + The National Weather Service (NWS) is under the jurisdiction of +NOAA and it plays a significant role in providing weather forecasting +for a variety of sectors. Specifically, the NWS's weather products and +data are a vital component of the Federal Aviation Administration's +(FAA's) air traffic control system, providing timely and accurate +weather information to local, regional, and national air traffic +management, navigation, and surveillance systems. To ensure our +nation's aviation weather technologies and services are accurate, cost +effective, and efficient, I am pleased the Government Accountability +Office (GAO) is in the process of evaluating the NWS's efforts to +implement recommendations to improve aviation weather services and I +look forward to hearing from our witnesses on the current status of the +Nation's aviation weather technologies and services. + In addition to NWS's role in providing weather services to the +aviation community, the agency within NOAA is also involved in +forecasting weather for our communities. In Southwestern Illinois, +there have been a series of bad weather-related storms causing +significant damage and destruction to communities in the congressional +district I am privileged to represent. As a result, several of the +counties were declared federal disaster areas by the President, and our +region has been eligible for assistance to rebuild and restore homes, +schools, businesses, and local infrastructures. Before any storm hits, +it is critically important to have accurate and timely information on +weather forecasts in order to prepare. + While I recognize that weather forecasting is not 100% correct, +computer modeling and weather forecasting programs continue to advance +in order to reduce the margin of error. The President's FY08 proposed +budget provides for a 6.5 percent increase than the 2006 enacted levels +for the National Weather Service (NWS). I am pleased the Next +Generation Weather Radar (NEXRAD), a radar system that shows patterns +and movements of weather conditions, received an $11.3 million +increase. + However, I have concerns that the FY08 increase for the NWS may not +be sufficient to fully cover all operational and maintenance +requirements for current weather forecasting equipment, especially if +we experience a year with severe weather events and hurricanes that +often result in damage or loss to weather monitoring and forecasting +equipment. + I look forward to hearing the testimony of our witnesses. + + Chairman Lampson. We do have one small problem. I think we +can get our opening statements out of the way in convenient +time, but we will have a vote that will come up probably +sometime in the next five, maybe less than 10, minutes. We have +got adequate time, I believe, to have both of your statements +made, and then if you all will forgive us, we will run off and +make our way back as quickly as we possibly can. + It is a pleasure to introduce the excellent panel of +witnesses that we have with us here this afternoon. Vice +Admiral Conrad Lautenbacher is the Under Secretary of Commerce +for Oceans and Atmosphere and Administrator of NOAA and Dr. Len +Pietrafesa is the Associate Dean of External Affairs and +Professor of Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences at North Carolina +State University and is the former Chair of NOAA's Science +Advisory Board. + So we welcome both of you very much. You will each have +five minutes for your spoken testimony. Your full, written +testimony will be included in the record for the hearing. And +when each of you have completed your testimony, we will begin +with questions, and each Member will have five minutes to +question the panel and we will rotate as normal. + Admiral Lautenbacher, would you please begin? + +STATEMENT OF VICE ADMIRAL CONRAD LAUTENBACHER, JR. (U.S. NAVY, + RET.), UNDER SECRETARY OF COMMERCE FOR OCEANS AND ATMOSPHERE + AND NOAA ADMINISTRATOR, NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC + ADMINISTRATION, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE + + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good +afternoon, Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member Inglis, members of the +staff. We appreciate very much this opportunity to be able to +testify on behalf of the 2008 budget. We thank this committee +for its continuing support. This committee has been very +important to the ability of NOAA to carry out its mission, and +we look forward to working with you to build the best budget +possible for the country. + This year I think everyone is aware NOAA is celebrating 200 +years of science, service, and stewardship to the Nation. The +precursor of NOAA was the first scientific agency in the United +States Government, seen fit to be brought into existence by +President Thomas Jefferson and the Congress in those days. +Since that point, we have been joined by the Weather Bureau, +Commission on Fish and Fisheries in the 1870's and up until +today where we have satellites and a fabulous research branch +that works for us. So it has been a long road. Our folks are +very proud of their contributions, and we are looking forward +to celebrating this legacy this year. + I have a couple of details on the 2008 request. Allow me to +mention just a couple of the accomplishments that have occurred +in the past year thanks to the support of Congress. In June, +the President designated the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands as a +Marine National Monument encompassing nearly 140,000 square +miles. This monument includes 4,500 square miles of relatively +undisturbed coral reef habitat that is home to more than 7,000 +species, a quarter of which do not exist anywhere else on +Earth. And for the first time, NOAA will play a leading role in +managing a national monument. It is an exciting and important +opportunity for NOAA. + We have also increased the security of our nation's folks +living around the coastlines. We have a combination of new +tsunami buoys and around-the-clock warning capability thanks to +support from Congress. NOAA has 23 special buoys around the +U.S. coast. Plans call for the U.S. Tsunami Warning Network to +include 39 buoy stations by mid-summer 2008 with 32 in the +Pacific and seven in the Atlantic. NOAA has also achieved 24-7 +operation of the Nation's two Tsunami Warning Centers located +in Alaska and Hawaii which provide warnings and alerts to our +nation and to the nations in the Pacific rim. + NOAA collaborated with federal partners to place a NOAA +weather radio in every public school in America, and the +support of this committee has been very important to NOAA +weather radio. That is more than 97,000 radios to aid in +protecting our children. Our weather radios, All Hazards, +provide automatic alerts for severe weather, man-made disasters +such as chemical spills and terrorism threats as well as Amber +Alerts for missing children. + My written testimony presents the details of the budget. It +is aligned in several priority areas. First of all, sustaining +critical operations and then supporting our U.S. Ocean Action +Plan mentioned previously, improving weather warnings and +forecasts and climate monitoring and research are all important +to today's society and economy. I will highlight just a few of +the key increases in these areas. + The total request is $3.8 billion which represents a $131 +million, or 3.4 percent, increase over the fiscal year 2007 +request. But as mentioned, it is a $96 million decrease from +the fiscal year 2006 enacted level. The budget does provide +modest new investments in priority areas while maintaining +critical services. Approximately $54 million in net increases +will support our workforce which is mentioned again as a +critical part of what we provide to the country and pay for +regular inflation costs. Continued implementation of the +President's Ocean Action Plan, which follows on the Ocean +Policy Commission and the Pew Commission, remains a priority +for the Administration. As mentioned, the budget requests $123 +million increase to support the plan, $60 million for ocean +science and research, $38 million to protect and restore marine +and coastal areas, and $25 million to ensure sustainable use of +our oceans. And specifically the budget requests $16.4 million +for the Integrated Ocean Observing System, or IOOS, for +development of regional systems and improved data management +and communications. It also includes $8 million for enforcement +and management activities in the newly designated Northwestern +Hawaiian Islands National Marine Monument. + To improve weather forecast and warnings, our budget +requested an increase of $5 million to support operations and +maintenance of hurricane data buoys and research on hurricane +intensity that will ultimately save lives. More than $23 +million in total is requested to continue strengthening the +U.S. Tsunami Warning System, which is including an increase of +about $2 million for additional deep-ocean buoy stations. +Climate monitoring and research increases of $9.4 million will +support the development of an integrated drought early warning +forecast system that will enhance our nation's food security by +providing earlier and more accurate drought forecasts. + I appreciate the efforts again of this committee in passing +the NIDIS legislation last year. + Let me conclude briefly by talking briefly about two +oversight issues which I know are of importance to this +committee and certainly to NOAA. There have been many +challenges with our satellite programs and NPOESS in +particular. Let me assure the Committee that I am doing +everything, along with my organization, to ensure this program +stays on track. We have made numerous personnel changes, we are +implementing every recommendation from the GAO and the +Department of Commerce Inspector General and I meet with the +Under Secretary of the Air Force and the NASA Administrator +once a quarter and more often, if necessary, to review this +program. Satellites are complex and risky tools, but they are +vital to all aspects of NOAA's mission. + I also want to assure the Committee that the Department of +Commerce is in the final stage of updating its communication +policy which will ensure our scientists have, for the +foreseeable future, the freedom to speak openly, communicate +their science to the media and public. Open and free scientific +debate is an important principle that I maintain personally and +within the organization. + Again, thank you for this opportunity to present the +budget. I look forward to your questions. + [The prepared statement of Vice Admiral Lautenbacher +follows:] + Prepared Statement of Vice Admiral Conrad Lautenbacher, Jr. + Madam Chairwoman and Members of the Subcommittee, before I begin my +testimony I would like to thank you for your leadership and the +generous support you have shown the National Oceanic and Atmospheric +Administration (NOAA). Your continued support for our programs is +appreciated as we work to improve our products and services for the +American people. Thank you for the opportunity to testify on the +President's Fiscal Year (FY) 2008 Budget Request for NOAA. + The FY 2008 President's Budget supports NOAA's priority to advance +mission-critical services. The FY 2008 request is $3.815 billion, which +represents a $131 million or 3.4 percent increase over the FY 2007 +request. This request includes the level of resources necessary to +carry out NOAA's mission, which is to understand and predict changes in +the Earth's environment, and conserve and manage coastal and marine +resources to meet our nation's economic, social and environmental +needs. At NOAA we work to protect the lives and livelihoods of +Americans, and provide products and services that benefit the economy, +environment, and public safety of the Nation. Before I discuss the +details of our FY 2008 budget request, I would like to briefly +highlight some of NOAA's notable successes from the past fiscal year +(2006). + +FY 2006 ACCOMPLISHMENTS + +President Designates Largest Fully-Protected Marine Area on Earth + + Recognizing the continuing need for resource protection, President +Bush designated the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands as a marine national +monument on June 15, 2006. Encompassing nearly 140,000 square miles, +the monument covers an area larger than all of our national parks put +together, including 4,500 square miles of relatively undisturbed coral +reef habitat that is home to more than 7,000 species. The creation of +the largest fully-protected marine area in the world is an exciting +achievement and recognizes the value of marine resources to our nation. + +Successful Launch of NOAA Satellite GOES-13 and New Satellite + Operations Facility Ensure Continuity of Improved + Data Collection + + On May 24, 2006, officials from NOAA and the National Aeronautics +and Space Administration (NASA) confirmed that a new geostationary +operational environmental satellite, designed to track hurricanes and +other severe weather impacting the Nation, successfully reached orbit. +Upon reaching final orbit, the satellite was renamed GOES-13. This is +the first in a new series of satellites featuring a more stable +platform enabling improved instrument performance. NOAA instruments +were also launched on the European MetOp-A polar-orbiting satellite in +October 2006. Combined with NOAA and Department of Defense (DOD) +operational satellites, MetOp-A will help provide global data for +improving forecasts of severe weather, disaster mitigation, and +monitoring of the environment. This launch ushered in a new era of +U.S.-European cooperation in environmental observing. + In 2006, NOAA satellite operations and data processing groups began +moving into the new NOAA Satellite Operations Facility (NSOF). The NSOF +will house the NOAA satellite command and control functions and data +and distribution activities that are central to NOAA's mission. The +NSOF will also house the U.S. Mission Control Center for the Search and +Rescue Satellite-Aided Tracking (SARSAT) program and the National Ice +Center (NIC), a joint NOAA/DOD mission to track ice floes and issue +warnings to the Nation's maritime force. The NSOF will become fully +operational in Spring 2007. + +Enhancements to NOAA's Fleet of Ships and Aircraft + + Significant progress is being made in modernizing NOAA's fleet. +NOAA took delivery of the Fisheries Survey Vessel (FSV) HENRY B. +BIGELOW, the second of four new FSV, on July 25, 2006. The BIGELOW has +high-tech capabilities that make it one of the world's most advanced +fisheries research ships. These ships will be able to perform hydro- +acoustic fish surveys and conduct bottom and mid-water trawls while +running physical and biological oceanographic sampling during a single +deployment--a combined capability unavailable in the private sector +that will enable research and assessment to be carried out with greater +accuracy and cost efficiency. NOAA also took delivery from the Navy of +a ``retired'' P-3 aircraft in response to the hurricane supplemental +bill attached to the FY 2006 Defense appropriations legislation. +Rehabilitation of the P-3 is expected to be completed by the start of +the 2008 hurricane season. + +Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act Reauthorized + + Congress reauthorized the Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and +Management Act (MSA) in December, 2006, and it was signed into law by +President Bush on January 12, 2007. The MSA is the guiding legislation +that authorizes fishery management activities in federal waters. +Enactment of this bill was one of the top priorities of the U.S. Ocean +Action Plan. The reauthorized MSA strengthens NOAA's ability to end +overfishing, rebuild fish stocks, and work collaboratively on +conservation. + +U.S. Tsunami Warning System Improved + + NOAA designed easy to deploy Deep-ocean Assessment and Reporting of +Tsunamis (DART)-II technology, which provides two-way communication +between the buoys and NOAA facilities. This technology allows engineers +to troubleshoot these systems from the lab and repair the systems +remotely when possible. This functionality can minimize system downtime +and save money by not requiring a ship be deployed to make minor +repairs. The U.S. Tsunami Warning Program also created tsunami impact +forecast models for nine major coastal communities, providing +information for inundation maps. With the December 11, 2006 deployment +of DART #23 in the Western Pacific Ocean, NOAA achieved initial +operating capability (IOC) of the planned expanded U.S. Tsunami Warning +Program. NOAA also achieved full 24/7 operations of the Nation's two +Tsunami Warning Centers. Plans call for the U.S. Tsunami Warning +Network to total 39 DART-II buoy stations by mid-summer 2008 (32 in the +Pacific, seven in the Atlantic). + NOAA also continued to monitor sea height through a network of +buoys and tide gauges, collecting information critical to understanding +the time of arrival and the height of tsunami waves. In 2006, NOAA +completed the installation of eight new National Water Level +Observation Network (NWLON) stations to fill gaps in the detection +network, bringing the two-year total to 15. The 15 stations were +installed in California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, Puerto Rico, and +the Virgin Islands. These and other new stations brought the NWLON to +200 stations by the end of calendar year 2006. In addition, NOAA +continued to upgrade the entire NWLON to real-time status by replacing +over 50 data collection platforms. + +Red Tide Monitoring Protects Human Health and Coastal Economics in New + England + + In the wake of the 2005 New England red tide crisis that forced the +closure of most shell fisheries in the region, NOAA provided additional +emergency funding in 2006 to provide timely and critical information to +state managers to build upon long-term research supported by the +Ecology and Oceanography of Harmful Algal Bloom, and Monitoring and +Event Response for Harmful Algal Bloom programs at the Woods Hole +Oceanographic Institution, as well as other partner institutions. In +the spring of 2006, NOAA-sponsored monitoring detected rapid +escalations of the bloom, which subsequently closed shell fisheries in +Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine. Additional NOAA efforts allowed +New England managers to make more strategic sampling and shellfish bed +closures/openings to protect human health and minimize the economic +impacts of harmful algal blooms. + +National Estuarine Research Reserve System Adds 27th Reserve + + On May 6, 2006, Commerce and Congressional officials dedicated the +newest site in the National Estuarine Research Reserve System in Port +Aransas, TX, bring the total to 27 reserves. This new reserve +introduces a new biogeographic area type into the system, and adds +185,708 acres of public and private land and water. The reserves are +federal-State partnerships, where NOAA provides national program +guidance and operational funding. These reserves serve as living +laboratories for scientists and provide science-based educational +programs for students and the public. + +Wide Application Potential of Unmanned Aircraft Systems Demonstrated + + In 2006, NOAA worked with federal and private sector partners to +successfully demonstrate Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) technology. +NOAA is interested in UAS as a tool to explore and gather data to help +us reach new heights in our ability to understand and predict the world +in which we live. Use of UAS could help NOAA achieve our mission goals +and provide cost-effective means to: enforce regulations over NOAA's +National Marine Sanctuaries, conduct long endurance flights for +weather, conduct research over areas that pose significant risks to +pilots, validate satellite measurements, provide counts of marine +mammal populations, monitor atmospheric composition and climate, and +hover above hurricanes and gather critical data for input into +hurricane models. NOAA will continue to examine how UAS can assist in +the collection of environmental data. + +Protecting Habitat Essential to Fish + + In 2006, over 500,000 square miles of U.S. Pacific Ocean habitats +were protected from damage by fishing practices, particularly bottom- +trawling. Combined, these areas are more than three times the size of +all U.S. national parks. The historic protections, implemented by NOAA +with the support and advice of the regional fishery management +councils, fishing industry, and environmental groups, made the +protection of essential fish habitat and deep coral and sponge +assemblages a significant part of management efforts to conserve +fisheries in the Pacific Ocean. + +NOAA Continues Efforts to Assist with Gulf Coast Recovery Following + 2005 Hurricanes Katrina and Rita + + In addition to providing the forecasts and immediate response +assistance in 2005, following Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, NOAA has +continued to assist with Gulf Coast recovery efforts in FY 2006. + NOAA ships and aircraft provided critical response and recovery +capabilities in the aftermath of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. NOAA Ship +THOMAS JEFFERSON completed obstruction surveys in the Gulf of Mexico so +that busy ports and shipping lanes could be re-opened to traffic. +NOAA's Citation aircraft flew post-storm damage assessment surveys +along the coasts of the Gulf States. This imagery was downloaded on the +NOAA website, enabling emergency managers, local officials and average +citizens to inventory damage and prioritize recovery efforts. + NOAA mounted a multi-pronged effort to address fishery-related +impacts in the Gulf of Mexico in FY 2006. In August, 2006, NOAA awarded +$128 million to the Gulf States Marine Fisheries Commission to reseed +and restore oyster beds and conduct fisheries monitoring in the Gulf. +In addition, NOAA Ship NANCY FOSTER conducted a seafood contamination +survey for NOAA Fisheries near the Mississippi Delta to spot potential +safety issues. This research monitored the seafood coming in from the +Gulf to ensure it was safe for public consumption (free of PCBs, +pesticides, and fossil fuels). + +Collaboration Enables a NOAA Weather Radio to be Placed in Every Public + School in America + + NOAA and the Departments of Homeland Security and Education worked +to get 97,000 NOAA weather radios placed in every public school in +America to aid in protecting our children from hazards, both natural +and man-made. In many cases, local Weather Forecast Office staff +provided expertise in programming the radios to select specific hazards +and geographic areas for which the school wanted to be alerted. This +multi-month effort required close collaboration between the Departments +of Homeland Security, Education, and Commerce (NOAA). This effort +enabled schools to connect to part of the Nation's Emergency Alert +System and greatly increases environmental situational awareness and +public safety. + +World Ocean Database 2005 + + NOAA's National Oceanographic Data Center (NODC) released a major +upgrade to its World Ocean Database product. World Ocean Database 2005 +(WOD05) is the largest collection of quality-controlled ocean profile +data available internationally without restriction. All data are +available on-line for public use. Data are available for 29 ocean +variables, including plankton data. The database includes an additional +900,000 temperature profiles not available in its predecessor. The +database provides the ocean and climate science communities with +research-quality ocean profile data sets that will be useful in +describing physical, chemical and biological parameters in the ocean, +over both time and space. This database is a crucial part of the +Integrated Ocean Observing System and the Global Earth Observation +System of Systems. + +New Arctic Observatory Established for Long-Term Climate Measurements + + NOAA's Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colorado, in +conjunction with our Canadian counterparts, established a research site +located on Ellesmere Island to make long-term climate measurements of +Arctic clouds and aerosols. This observatory supports NOAA's activities +for the 2007-2008 International Polar Year. + +NOAA Scientists Identify Carbon Dioxide Threats to Marine Life + + A report co-authored by NOAA research scientists documents how +carbon dioxide is dramatically altering ocean chemistry and threatening +the health of marine organisms. The research also uncovered new +evidence of ocean acidification in the North Pacific. The report +resulted from a workshop sponsored by NOAA, the National Science +Foundation, and the U.S. Geological Survey. + +First Operational Satellite Products for Ocean Biology + + In June, 2006, NOAA began to process and distribute ocean biology +products for U.S. coastal waters, using satellite observations. This +activity represents a successful transition of NASA research to NOAA +operations. These products (e.g., chlorophyll concentration) represent +the first satellite-derived biological products generated by NOAA for +coastal and open ocean waters. These products are useful in detecting +and monitoring harmful algal blooms, assessing regional water quality, +and locating suitable habitat for fish and other important marine +species. Development of these products prepares NOAA for generating and +distributing ocean biology products in the global ocean after 2010. + +FY 2008 BUDGET REQUEST HIGHLIGHTS + +Supporting the U.S. Ocean Action Plan + + Coastal and marine waters help support over 28 million jobs, and +the value of the ocean economy to the United States is over $115 +billion. The commercial and recreational fishing industries alone add +over $48 billion to the national economy each year. The FY 2008 +President's Budget requests $123 million in increases for NOAA to +support the President's U.S. Ocean Action Plan. This oceans initiative +includes $38 million to protect and restore marine and coastal areas, +$25 million to ensure sustainable use of ocean resources, and $60 +million to advance ocean science and research. + New investments in ocean science are aimed at monitoring and better +understanding marine ecosystems. Increased funding of $16 million is +included for the Integrated Ocean Observing System to enhance models +and information products through development of regional systems and +improved data management and communications. A total increase of $20 +million is provided for NOAA research on four near-term priorities +established through the national Ocean Research Priorities Plan. An +additional $8 million will support exploring and defining areas of the +continental shelf that are adjacent to, but currently outside of, U.S. +jurisdiction. This work will enable a U.S. claim to these areas and the +potential $1.2 trillion worth of resources they are estimated to +contain. + The FY 2008 President's Budget builds on NOAA's strong record of +investing in projects that embody the spirit of cooperative +conservation. Projects to protect and restore valuable marine and +coastal areas include funding of $8 million for enforcement and +management activities in the recently designated Northwestern Hawaiian +Islands Marine National Monument, and $10 million for a project to +restore nearly 1,000 stream miles of habitat for endangered Atlantic +salmon and other fish species. A total of $15 million is provided for +the Coastal and Estuarine Land Conservation Program, to assist State +and local partners in the purchase of high priority coastal or +estuarine lands or conservation easements. Increased funding of $3 +million is also included to support Klamath River salmon recovery +projects. Finally, an increase of $5 million will support competitive +grant programs focused on the Gulf of Mexico Alliance coastal resource +priorities, as identified in the Governors' Action Plan for Healthy and +Resilient Coasts. + Finally, the FY 2008 NOAA budget provides support to ensure +sustainable access to seafood through development of offshore +aquaculture and better management of fish harvests. The Administration +will propose legislation to establish clear regulatory authority and +permitting processes for offshore aquaculture. An increase of $3 +million is included to establish the regulatory framework to encourage +and facilitate development of environmentally sustainable commercial +opportunities. In addition, $20 million in increases are provided to +improve management of fish harvests, including $6.5 million in +increases to implement the new and expanded requirements of the +Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Reauthorization +Act of 2006, $3 million for observer programs, and $6 million for +market-based approaches to fisheries management. Market-based +approaches--such as Limited Access Privilege Programs (LAPPs) that +provide exclusive privileges to harvest a quantity of fish--move +fisheries management away from cumbersome and inefficient regulatory +practices and have been shown to lead to lengthened fishing seasons, +improved product quality, and safer conditions for fishermen. The +Administration has set a goal of doubling the number of LAPPs in use by +the year 2010, and the increased funding of $6 million for LAPPs in +this request supports that goal. Finally, an additional $2 million in +funding is provided to meet the management challenges of assessing and +mitigating the impacts of sound from human activities, such as national +defense readiness and energy exploration and development, on marine +mammals. + +Sustaining Critical Operations + + As always, I support NOAA's employees by requesting adequate +funding for our people, infrastructure, and facilities. NOAA's core +values are science, service, and stewardship, as well as people, +ingenuity, integrity, excellence, and teamwork. Our ability to serve +the Nation and accomplish the missions outlined below is determined by +the quality of our people and the tools they employ. Our facilities, +ships, aircraft, environmental satellites, data-processing systems, +computing and communications systems, and our approach to management +provide the foundation of support for all of our programs. +Approximately $54.6 million in net increases will support our workforce +inflation factors, including $44.9 million for salaries and benefits +and $6.6 million for non-labor related adjustments such as fuel costs. + This year, we focus on the operations and maintenance of NOAA +vessels and necessary enhancements to marine safety, facility repair, +and modernization. A funding increase of $8.3 million will be used to +support marine operations and equipment, including $5.6 million for new +vessel operations and maintenance and $1.7 million to implement a more +effective maritime staff rotation and safety enhancements. This funding +will support the operations maintenance for the OKEANOS EXPLORER, +NOAA's first dedicated Ocean Exploration vessel. Increased funding of +$5.5 million will support operations and maintenance for NOAA's third +P-3 aircraft. NOAA is also moving forward this year with increases in +funding for unmanned vehicles, with $0.7 million in support of +Autonomous Underwater Vehicles (AUV) and an increase of $3 million in +funding to support the further use of Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS). +With this increase, NOAA will evaluate the benefits and potential of +using UAS to collect data crucial for climate models, weather research, +fisheries enforcement, and coastal zone studies. + The backbone of the NOAA infrastructure is our integrated Earth +observation effort. NOAA, NASA and the Office of Science and Technology +Policy (OSTP) serve as the lead agencies for the Federal Government in +developing our U.S. integrated Earth observing strategy. In addition, I +serve as one of four intergovernmental co-chairs of the effort to +develop the Global Earth Observation System of Systems. Building and +maintaining state of the art satellite programs is an important +component of NOAA's integrated observation efforts. An increase of $25 +million in the Polar Operational Environmental Satellite (POES) program +continues support for development and acquisition of polar-orbiting +weather satellites to improve weather forecasting and our understanding +of the climate. This increase will allow NOAA to complete acquisition +of this series of polar satellites and install and maintain instruments +important to U.S. Government interests on the European MetOp partner +satellite. Following the completion of the POES program, it will be +replaced by the tri-agency National Polar-orbiting Operational +Environmental Satellite System (NPOESS). This transition is expected in +2013. We will continue to partner with the Europeans on their MetOp +satellite as NPOESS replaces our current POES satellites. + +Improving Weather Warnings & Forecasts + + Severe weather events cause $11 billion in damages and +approximately 7,000 weather-related fatalities yearly in the United +States. Nearly one-third of the economy is sensitive to weather and +climate. Realizing this, NOAA seeks to provide decision makers with key +observations, analyses, predictions, and warnings for a variety of +weather and water conditions to help protect the health, lives, and +property of the United States and enhance its economy. Increased +funding of $2 million will accelerate research to improve hurricane +intensity forecasts through targeted research for new models and +observations. Another $3 million will support the operations and +maintenance of 15 hurricane data buoys in the Caribbean, Gulf of +Mexico, and the Atlantic Ocean. Finally, NOAA continues to strengthen +the U.S. Tsunami Warning Program with an increase of $1.7 million to +deploy additional deep ocean buoy (DART) stations. Strengthening the +U.S. Tsunami Warning Program provides effective, community-based +tsunami hazard mitigation actions including required inundation flood +mapping, modeling, forecasting efforts and evacuation mapping, and +community-based public education/awareness/preparedness for all U.S. +communities at risk. + +Climate Monitoring & Research + + Society exists in a highly variable climate system, and major +climatic events can impose serious consequences on society. The FY 2008 +Budget Request contains investments in several programs aimed at +increasing our predictive capability, enabling NOAA to provide our +customers (farmers, utilities, land managers, weather risk industry, +fisheries resource managers and decision makers) with assessments of +current and future impacts of climate events such as droughts, floods, +and trends in extreme climate events. NOAA is building a suite of +information, products and services to enable society to understand, +predict, and respond to changing climate conditions. These activities +are part of the U.S. Climate Change Science Program and are being +conducted in collaboration and coordination with our important +interagency partners including NASA, NSF, and the Department of Energy. +We will continue to expand and improve access to global oceanic and +atmospheric data sets for improved climate prediction and development +of climate change indicators. NOAA will support the critical National +Integrated Drought Information System with increases of $4.4 million to +develop an integrated drought early warning and forecast system to +provide earlier and more accurate forecasts of drought conditions. This +request also supports the Administration's efforts to create a U.S. +Integrated Earth Observation System. With an increase of $0.9 million, +we will support research on water vapor to refine climate models. In +support of the Ocean Research Priorities Plan, NOAA will enhance our +understanding of the link between ocean currents and rapid climate +change with an increase of $5 million in support of research on this +topic. Finally, an additional $1 million in funding will provide +additional computational support for assessing abrupt climate change. + +Critical Facilities Investments + + The FY 2008 President's Budget Request also includes important +increases for critical facilities, necessary to provide a safe and +effective working environment for NOAA's employees. + Of particular importance this year is the $3 million funding +increase to begin design of a replacement facility at the La Jolla +Southwest Fisheries Science Center. NOAA is also requesting $20.3 +million for continued construction of the new Pacific Region Center on +Ford Island in Honolulu, Hawaii. This increase in funding will allow +NOAA to complete the exterior renovation of one of the Ford Island +buildings, a crucial next step in the construction process. + +CONCLUSION + + NOAA's FY 2008 Budget Request provides essential new investments in +our priority areas while maintaining critical services, reflecting +NOAA's vision, mission, and core values. The work NOAA accomplished in +2006 impacted every U.S. citizen. We will build on our successes from +last year, and stand ready to meet the challenges that will surface in +FY 2008 and beyond. NOAA is dedicated to enhancing economic security +and national safety through research and accurate prediction of weather +and climate-related events, and to providing environmental stewardship +of our nation's coastal and marine resources. That concludes my +statement, Madam Chairwoman. Thank you for the opportunity to present +NOAA's FY 2008 Budget Request. I am happy to respond to any questions +the Committee may have. + + Biography for Vice Admiral Conrad C. Lautenbacher, Jr. + A native of Philadelphia, Pa., retired Navy Vice Admiral Conrad C. +Lautenbacher, Ph.D., is serving as the Under Secretary of Commerce for +Oceans and Atmosphere. He was appointed Dec. 19, 2001. Along with this +title comes the added distinction of serving as the eighth +Administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. +He holds an M.S. and Ph.D. from Harvard University in applied +mathematics. + Lautenbacher oversees the day-to-day functions of NOAA, as well as +laying out its strategic and operational future. The agency manages an +annual budget of $4 billion. The agency includes, and is comprised of, +the National Environmental Satellite, Data and Information Services; +National Marine Fisheries Service; National Ocean Service; National +Weather Service; Oceanic and Atmospheric Research; Marine and Aviation +Operations; and the NOAA Corps, the Nation's seventh uniformed service. +He directed an extensive review and reorganization of the NOAA +corporate structure to meet the environmental challenges of the 21st +century. + As the NOAA Administrator, Lautenbacher spearheaded the first-ever +Earth Observation Summit, which hosted ministerial-level representation +from several dozen of the world's nations in Washington July 2003. +Through subsequent international summits and working groups, he worked +to encourage world scientific and policy leaders to work toward a +common goal of building a sustained Global Earth Observation System of +Systems (GEOSS) that would collect and disseminate data, information +and models to stakeholders and decision-makers for the benefit of all +nations individually and the world community collectively. The effort +culminated in an agreement for a 10-year implementation plan for GEOSS +reached by the 55 member countries of the Group on Earth Observations +at the Third Observation Summit held in Brussels February 2005. + He also has headed numerous delegations at international +governmental summits and conferences around the world, including the +U.S. delegation to 2002 Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Ocean +Ministerial Meeting in Korea, and 2002 and 2003 meetings of the World +Meteorological Organization and Intergovernmental Oceanographic +Commission in Switzerland and France, as well as leading the Commerce +delegation to the 2002 World Summit on Sustainable Development in South +Africa. + Before joining NOAA, Lautenbacher formed his own management +consultant business, and worked principally for Technology, Strategies +& Alliances Inc. He was president and CEO of the Consortium for +Oceanographic Research and Education (CORE). This not-for-profit +organization has a membership of 76 institutions of higher learning and +a mission to increase basic knowledge and public support across the +spectrum of ocean sciences. + Lautenbacher is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy (Class of +1964), and has won accolades for his performance in a broad range of +operational, command and staff positions both ashore and afloat. He +retired after 40 years of service in the Navy. His military career was +marked by skilled fiscal management and significant improvements in +operations through performance-based evaluations of processes. + During his time in the Navy, he was selected as a Federal Executive +Fellow and served at the Brookings Institution. He served as a guest +lecturer on numerous occasions at the Naval War College, the Army War +College, the Air War College, The Fletcher School of Diplomacy, and the +components of the National Defense University. + His Navy experience includes tours as Commanding Officer of USS +HEWITT (DD-966), Commander Naval Station Norfolk; Commander of Cruiser- +Destroyer Group Five with additional duties as Commander U.S. Naval +Forces Central Command Riyadh during Operations Desert Shield and +Desert Storm, where he was in charge of Navy planning and participation +in the air campaign. As Commander U.S. Third Fleet, he introduced joint +training to the Pacific with the initiation of the first West Coast +Joint Task Force Training Exercises (JTFEXs). + A leader in the introduction of cutting-edge information +technology, he pioneered the use of information technology to mount +large-scale operations using sea-based command and control. As +Assistant for Strategy with the Chief of Naval Operations Executive +Panel, and Program Planning Branch Head in the Navy Program Planning +Directorate, he continued to hone his analytic skills resulting in +designation as a specialist both in Operations Analysis and Financial +Management. During his final tour of duty, he served as Deputy Chief of +Naval Operations (Resources, Warfare Requirements and Assessments) in +charge of Navy programs and budget. + Lautenbacher lives in Northern Virginia with his wife Susan who is +a life-long high school and middle school science teacher. + + Chairman Lampson. Thank you, Admiral Lautenbacher. I would +now call on Dr. Pietrafesa. + + STATEMENT OF DR. LEN PIETRAFESA, ASSOCIATE DEAN, OFFICE OF +EXTERNAL AFFAIRS; PROFESSOR OF OCEAN AND ATMOSPHERIC SCIENCES, + COLLEGE OF PHYSICAL AND MATHEMATICAL SCIENCES, NORTH CAROLINA + STATE UNIVERSITY + + Dr. Pietrafesa Mr. Chairman and Ranking Member Inglis, +thank you for this opportunity to participate in this hearing +regarding NOAA and its budget proposal for fiscal year 2008. + Today I am appearing on behalf of the Friends of NOAA +Coalition consisting of over 40 very diverse entities, all NOAA +stakeholders. A copy of a letter sent by the Friends Coalition +to this committee in support of an adequate budget for NOAA for +fiscal year 2008 is attached to my testimony. + At the $4.5 billion level, which is $15 per American +annually, NOAA would be able to better serve our nation. The +American people need and deserve the most comprehensive, +objective, accurate, and timely environmental information +possible. The value of these services to the Nation, save for +D-Day, has never been greater. + What is the broad brush economic importance of NOAA to the +Nation? Department of Commerce statistics show that weather and +climate sensitive industries account for more than one-third of +the Nation's GDP. Seventy-five percent of the Nation's gross +State product comes from the coastal States, and 50 percent of +the Nation's economy derives from the coastal counties where +NOAA roles support the significant economic activities. +Annually there are 1.5 million highway accidents, and 700,000 +deaths that are weather related. $4.5 billion is lost annually +just due to weather-related air traffic delays such as the +3,600 canceled flights this past weekend. Investments in road +and aviation, weather infrastructure, and research would +greatly reduce these numbers and economic impacts. + Total annual federal spending for weather information is +about $25 per household. Aquaculture represents a $1 billion a +year industry for U.S. fish farmers and $6 billion per year in +retail sales. Yet, we presently import 80 percent of the fish +we consume. As the Nation's appetite for seafood grows, the +U.S. will need an additional $4.5 billion pounds per year. Here +NOAA must lead this effort. + The recently released NRC report, the Decadal Survey, +points out that the U.S. Earth integrated observation +capability is lacking and puts our nation's global economic +competitiveness at risk. Lloyds of London has stated that we +cannot afford to deny climate trends that may likely lead to +$100 billion individual mega catastrophes in insured losses and +that U.S. environmental observing assets and products that +should be provided are crucial and critical to avoiding these +industry-threatening costs. Long-term sustained aid is needed +to quantify climate trends. Here the NOAA National Climatic +Data Center's archive of data and information is critical for +all federal agencies and for its huge economic worth to +industry. + But chronic under funding prevents us from capitalizing on +new advances in knowledge, new technology, and innovative +ideas; and in this context, disarray and delay in developing +our Earth-observing systems makes no sense to me. + The cost of an integrated ocean observing system that +builds on the essential federal monitoring backbone in the +coastal waters, including the Great Lakes, will be $250 million +a year. But the value to the Nation of greatly improved +forecasts, including ecological, will be in the many billions, +tens of billions of dollars per year. + I, along with the Pew Commission, the U.S. Commission on +Ocean Policy and many members of the Friends Coalition, believe +that an organic act would significantly strengthen NOAA. A +comprehensive NOAA Organic Act should address the following key +issues: management; assessment, production, operations and +applications; and research with external partners and +educational engagement of the public. As this committee knows, +the idea of making NOAA into an independent agency is not new +and is controversial. But OMB should assess the NOAA budget in +the context of other major agencies and departments within its +natural resource programs directorate. In this context, the +linkages that exist between NOAA and NASA and NSF must be +acknowledged and understood. Enactment of a NOAA Organic Act +provides a useful forum for the consideration of such a +proposal. + In conclusion, the Friends of NOAA Coalition appreciates +the severe budgetary constraints under which the Congress is +working. However, we believe that the case for the NOAA budget +is so compelling that we urge the Congress to support an +appropriation of at least $4.5 billion and to support the +legislation which would codify and strengthen the agency. The +Friends Coalition is deeply grateful for the opportunity to +participate in this hearing, and I would be happy to respond to +any question you and the Members of the Committee might have. + Thank you. + [The prepared statement of Dr. Pietrafesa follows:] + Prepared Statement of Len Pietrafesa + Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee--thank you for this +opportunity to participate in this hearing regarding the National +Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and its budget proposal +for fiscal year 2008. + My name is Len Pietrafesa. I am a Professor of Ocean and +Atmospheric Sciences and an Associate Dean at North Carolina State +University. I am the immediate past chair of the NOAA Science Advisory +Board, a member of the Board of Trustees of the University Corporation +for Atmospheric Research and have been a Governor on the Board of the +Consortium for Oceanographic Research and Education, Chair of the +National Council on Ocean Affairs and Chair of the National Association +of State Universities and Land Grant College Board on Oceans and +Atmosphere. + Today, I am appearing on behalf of the Friends of NOAA Coalition. +The Coalition consists of over 40 different organizations, +institutions, and groups from the academic community, the environmental +community and the private sector, including such organizations as the +Shipbuilders Council of America, the Consortium for Oceanographic +Research and Education, the Reinsurance Association of America, the +National Marine Sanctuary Foundation, the Joint Ocean Commission +Initiative, the Alliance for Earth Observations, the University +Corporation for Atmospheric Research, the National Association of +Marine Laboratories, the Red Cross and The Weather Channel--just to +name a few. Diverse though they are, each one of these organizations +believes strongly in the effectiveness of NOAA and benefits from the +products and services provided by the agency. I have attached to my +testimony a copy of a recent letter sent by the Friends of NOAA +Coalition to this and other Committees in support of an adequate budget +for NOAA for FY 2008 (Attachment I). + The Coalition was formed last year to educate and inform policy- +makers and the public about the important role NOAA plays as a supplier +of environmental data and information products, as the world's greatest +environmental data archiving agency, as a provider of environmental +stewardship services, and as a leader in facilitating the conduct and +integration of scientific research in support of the agency's critical +missions. These missions are: to operationally, routinely forecast +atmospheric, marine, space, aviation and road weather and climate, to +understand and predict changes in the Earth's environment and to +conserve and manage hydrologic, coastal and marine resources to meet +our nation's economic, social and environmental needs. + The services, products and research results provided by NOAA--from +forecasting the weather to predicting coastal hazards to monitoring and +anticipating solar disruptions of communications on Earth, to +recognizing climate variability and forecasting climate, and from +managing drought and wildfires and fisheries, to ensuring safe and +healthy seafood, providing access to navigational information and vital +community assistance and by facilitating scientific research that +improves operations and applications--touch the lives of every American +and every facet of our economy. If funded at the $4.5 billion level +($15 per person annually) as recommended by the House Oceans Caucus and +this Coalition, NOAA would be able to continue serving the extensive +and varied interests and needs of our nation. The American people need +and deserve the most comprehensive and timely environmental information +possible. The value of objective, timely, and accurate environmental +information (save for D-Day) has never been greater. + Significant events in recent years--the devastating tsunami +following the Southeast Asian earthquake in 2004, the extent and +ferocity of the 2004 and 2005 hurricane seasons, and the persistence +and impact of the prolonged drought in the western United States--all +underscore the importance of NOAA's mission to the Nation and the +world. NOAA's National Weather Service and National Hurricane Center +issued its forecast for Hurricane Katrina in a very timely manner--a +forecast that probably saved many tens of thousands of lives. Moreover, +it is the integration of NOAA's wide range of activities that allowed +the agency to deliver such valuable life-saving services and +information to our citizens. This integrated system includes satellites +in space, buoys at sea, coastal and ocean observatories, weather +stations found in every state of the Nation with a national radar +network that is the envy of the world, and the people who provide life +saving information to those with responsibility for the public's safety +at State and local levels. + A wide variety of government agencies, professional and community +organizations, and private industry have a vested interest in NOAA's +ability to meet its mission. Each has its respective role in being +responsive and effective in serving the Nation's needs for economic +strength, environmental vitality, and human health and thus relies on +services from NOAA. As an agency, NOAA has responsibilities for +maintaining and improving the viability of marine and coastal +ecosystems, for delivering valuable weather, climate, and water +information and services, for understanding the science and +consequences of climate change, and for supporting and enhancing the +global commerce and transportation upon which we all depend. To do so +successfully in today's ever changing world, it must have strong +Presidential and Congressional support and work in concert with its +partners and stakeholders in Federal, State, and local governments and +private organizations. + +The Importance of NOAA to the Nation + + Let me paint a picture of the economic importance of NOAA to the +Nation, garnering high returns and greatly reducing losses relative to +the overall investment in the agency. According to statistics published +by the Department of Commerce last spring, weather and climate +sensitive industries, both directly and indirectly, account for about +one-third of the Nation's GDP ranging from finance, insurance, and real +estate to services, retail and wholesale trade and manufacturing. +Industries directly impacted by atmospheric, space and marine weather +such as agriculture, construction, air, highway and sea travel, energy +distribution, and outdoor recreation account for nearly 10 percent of +the Nation's GDP. Six billion dollars is lost annually in economic +efficiencies as a result of air traffic delays, of which 70 percent is +attributed to weather; such as the 3600 flights canceled this past +Saturday due to the ice and snow storm that pummeled the Northeast. +Approximately seven thousand five hundred deaths and 1.5 million +highway accidents occur annually across the Nation that are weather +related. Total annual federal spending for weather information is about +$25 per household (including aviation and defense, in addition to +NOAA), which produces an annual benefit-cost ratio of 4.4 to one for +U.S. households alone or net national benefits of $8.8 billion a year. +This does not include benefits in agriculture, transportation, +construction or benefits to households in other countries that rely on +weather information from the United States. + A report about to be issued (by the Centric Consulting Group of +Savoy, IL) documents an assessment on the value of NOAA to various +sectors of our society. Using temperature information from the National +Climatic Data Center, the Homebuilders Association was able to adjust +its building foundation depth code, resulting in an industry savings of +$250 M/year. The value of data from GOES-R satellite sensors to the +U.S. economy includes such sectors as aviation weather, the power +industry, crop irrigation, recreational boating, tropical cyclone +forecasting and thus emergency and health and risk management sectors. + NOAA's role as the primary management agency for our oceans and +coasts also helps support the significant economic activity in these +regions. Seventy-five percent of the Nation's Gross State Product came +from the coastal states in 2003. Almost half of the national economy +came from the coastal watershed counties, and more than one-third came +from those counties in which states operate their Coastal Zone +Management programs. The near shore area, which is four percent of the +Nation's land, produces more than 11 percent of the Nation's economic +output. The portion of the U.S. economy that depends directly on the +ocean is also large, with 2.2 million people employed and $197 billion +in output (gross state product) in 2003. Aquaculture represents a $1 +billion per year industry for fish farmers and produces $6 billion per +year in retail food; yet the Nation is presently importing 80 percent +of the fish it consumes. Overall, U.S. citizens consume about 16 pounds +of seafood per capita per year (half the global average) and, as the +population continues to grow, the U.S. will need to find another two +million metric tons of high quality seafood each year at a value of +about $2-8 billion per year. To address this need, by way of examples, +research and outreach supported by the National Sea Grant College +Program on Manila clams and blue mussels have resulted in new +industries worth $19 million annually and a $25M annual hybrid striped +bass aquaculture industry. + Estimates of the economic impacts of harmful algal blooms in the +United States average $75 million annually. These impacts are the sum +of different kinds of direct output impacts across four categories of +effects: public health (divided between fish ciguatera and shellfish +poisonings); commercial fishing; recreation and tourism; and monitoring +and management costs. However, individual outbreaks can cause economic +damage that exceeds the annual average. For example, outbreaks in the +Chesapeake Bay in 1997 cost the Maryland seafood and recreational +fishing industries almost $50 million in just a few months. Lost sales +of shell fish in Maine and Massachusetts due to closures imposed as a +consequence of 2005 harmful algal bloom were estimated to be $11 +million for the months of May through September. Invasive algal blooms +along Maui's Kihei coast cause over $20 million in potential revenue +lost each year to the State of Hawaii--including reductions in property +value and rental income, and increased clean up costs. + NOAA can help mitigate these losses by funding the research +necessary to uncover the conditions responsible for the blooms and then +advise on how to eliminate them or how to anticipate them and take the +necessary actions to reduce their impacts. + +Integrated Earth Observation Capabilities and Leadership + + Integrated Earth observation capabilities are vital to American +competitiveness. The recently released National Research Council (NRC) +report, the Decadal Survey, helps us realize that the U.S. Earth +observation capability is not keeping up with expectations and needs +and puts our nation's global competitiveness is at risk. For example, +preliminary estimates of the potential economic benefits from new +investments in an Integrated Ocean Observing System (IOOS) in U.S. +waters range from $500 million to $1 billion per year, estimated +largely in terms of increased economic activity and social surplus +realized as a result of improved information about coastal marine +conditions. + It is likely that this is a gross underestimate of the potential +value of IOOS as the NOAA Science Advisory Board has issued the report +Ocean Modeling which claims that interactively coupled atmospheric-- +ocean models with more real time air--sea data available to be +assimilated into the models will greatly improve NOAA's ability to +forecast the size, intensity and precipitation content of winter +storms; such as dreaded Nor'easters which frequently impact the +Nation's Capitol. The cost of an IOOS that builds out the essential +federal monitoring backbone in the Nation's coastal waters, including +the Great Lakes, could well be $250M/year in equipment, maintenance, +ship and personnel costs. But what is the value to the Northeast from +Charleston to Nova Scotia of greatly improved forecasts of the timing, +amount and type of precipitation or of impending catastrophic storms in +Barrow or the Great Lakes? It must be in the tens of billions per +annum. Risk management requires investments in national infrastructure. + In a January 12, 2007, speech to the World Affairs Council, Lord +Levene, Chairman of Lloyd's, provided a global insurer's perspective on +catastrophe trends and climate change. He stated, ``We cannot risk +being in denial on catastrophe trends. We can expect to see U.S. mega- +catastrophes with 100 billion dollars insured losses soon. We urgently +need a radical rethink of public policy, and to build the facts into +our future planning.'' He added, ``The insurance industry will continue +to play a vital role as enabler and rebuilder of the U.S. economy.'' +U.S. environmental observing assets and the products provided are +critical to ensuring that insurance and other sectors have accurate and +timely information. + Currently, the annual economic return to the U.S. economy +associated with NOAA's El Nino Ocean observing and forecast system is +between 13 and 26 percent, which is significantly higher than the +Office of Management and Budget's 5.8 percent minimum rate of return +specified for federal projects. To wit, we must have the global +information infrastructure that is critical to our interconnected +society. Comprehensive science information ensures that decisions will +be made based on evidence rather than anecdotes. Long-term, sustained +data is needed to document climate and identify trends. Without U.S. +long-term climate data, the IPCC assessment would not have been +possible. + Environmental sensors and remote observations improve our +understanding and response to climate change and can help build +enabling capacity to sustain U.S. competitiveness. Here again, in +today's global, flat-Earth economy, innovation is the key to America's +ability to prosper. The U.S. must stay at the forefront of Earth +observation and geospatial technologies to better forecast and mitigate +the impact of climate change, natural disasters and not only lead the +competition but leave a more sustainable world for our children and +their children. The motivations and aspirations of the next-generation +workforce are being shaped today. We should be setting a long-range +vision in place to encourage today's youth to pursue science, math, +technology and engineering professions to assure future innovation and +competitiveness. NOAA can aid and abet that process. + While satellites have been viewed as the panacea they are limited +in their applications. As stated in the NRC report ``Satellite +observations have spatial and temporal resolution limitations and hence +do not alone provide a picture of the Earth system that is sufficient +for understanding all of the key physical, chemical, and biological +processes.'' Thus, we need a system of space, ground (in-situ), +airborne and ocean-based (in-situ) sensors, both public and private, +that can gather complementary information and can be integrated with a +minimum of duplication. Our commitment today to technology and greater +knowledge of the Earth would allow us to better protect life and +property and create unprecedented opportunities to promote economic +vitality. The right instruments and information systems enable our +ability to make forecasts that help anticipate outbreaks of infectious +disease, ensure adequate water availability and quality, or increase +agricultural productivity. NOAA can aid and abet the build out of the +required infrastructure. + The recommendations by the NRC Decadal Report would enable a global +view of issues and activities. But a global view alone is not +sufficient to make policy or decisions. We need researchers, geospatial +modeling and analysis that integrate NOAA data. We should promote the +use of established standards and protocols to assimilate data from +multiple sensors and sources-including commercial providers, State and +local governments, academia and international partners-and provide the +data through user-friendly web portals. The NOAA NESDIS National +Climatic Data Center is the Nation's archive of weather, climate, +satellite, sea level, radar, precipitation, etc. data that are so +critical to planning for all federal agencies, including the Department +of Homeland Security and its Federal Emergency Management Agency, and +private industry and academia. High quality, scrubbed, reliable data +are available and can be used to conduct retrospectives and to develop +disaster risk management based on physical, ecological and social +sciences diagnostic assessments and prognostications. NOAA data is +vital to this process. + The U.S. Commission on Ocean Policy, the Pew Commission, and the +NRC Decadal report all call for increased funding to improve our +current national Earth monitoring capability. While funding is +important, what is also needed is clear federal leadership to address +key questions such as: What is our national vision for Earth +observations? How are requirements from the federal operational sector +such as NOAA, USGS, USDA and EPA reflected in our research and +development programs within NASA and NSF? Are requirements from the +private sector being addressed? Leadership is essential to: protect +these critical assets; develop a national Earth observation strategy to +appropriately addresses climate change and other environmental +challenges based on evidence over anecdote; assure economy and +efficiency in agency plans and budgets; allow a smooth transition from +research to operations to applications; improve U.S. land, atmospheric +and oceanic -observing capabilities in equal priorities; improve +capability and cooperation among government, private sector, academia, +and non-governmental organizations; assure the much needed integration +of our national and international Earth observation systems; and +develop the products needed to make the best decisions for our country +and future generations. + The NRC Decadal report recommends that the Office of Science and +Technology Policy, in collaboration with the relevant agencies, and in +consultation with the scientific community, should develop and +implement a plan for achieving and sustaining global Earth +observations. Then a single point of contact or lead agency--such as +NOAA--should be designated to assure complementary rather than +duplicative or fragmented effort for all operational aspects of Earth +observation and analysis. + +Climate Change Science + + Through their capacity to absorb and transport heat and carbon +dioxide, oceans are key drivers of climate change processes. In +addition, they are also undergoing significant short- and long-term +change over both large and small areas as evidenced by the increasing +acidification of the oceans, climatic shifts associated with El Nino, +dramatic changes in the amount of sea ice in the Arctic Ocean, rising +sea level rise, and concern about possible abrupt climatic and +ecological changes, particularly associated with shifts in ocean +circulation. + Unfortunately, chronic under-funding of ocean and atmospheric +science has prevented us from capitalizing on new technology and +innovative ideas that would help address huge information gaps and +significantly advance our understanding of atmospheric and ocean +processes. Improved understanding of these processes will greatly +enhance our ability to predict the economic and ecological +ramifications associated with climate change. This information will be +essential as Congress balances competing demands in the development of +new national policies to minimize and adapt to climate changes in the +coming years and decades. + NOAA can provide critical value to the deliberations concerning +climate change by highlighting the importance of significantly +improving our knowledge of ocean and atmospheric processes (physical, +biological, chemical, geological) to provide decision makers with the +information they need to make intelligent, economic and ecologically +sound decisions--as well as the capacity to monitor these system to +evaluate the effectiveness of any new policy mandates. The need to +reduce our carbon emissions/footprint is important but so is the need +to improve climate science and to pursue new management approaches to +adapt to the inevitable environmental changes that will occur in the +coming years and decades. + A recent example of the advances that have been made but of a lack +of resources to continue the exceptional research results that have +been developed derives form a NOAA sponsored university cooperative +partnership called Climate and Weather Impacts on Society and the +Environment (CWISE). One of the many new advances made is the ability +to predict in April, the number of hurricanes that will make land fall +for an upcoming hurricane season on the U.S. eastern seaboard and the +Gulf of Mexico (as was done in 2006), allowing for advanced planning. +Unfortunately the program will not be continued, apparently because of +a lack of NOAA resources to support the next phase of + research which, within the next year, would have resulted in bi- +state level forecasts, from Texas to Maine. How much value would this +new information be to federal and State agencies, to offshore and +coastal industries, to insurance and risk management companies and to +society? This Committee has been out front in leading the fight for +meeting the Nation's future scientific and technical workforce needs. +But here, the funding for graduate students, who would be skilled in +helping NOAA and society deal with future impacts of natural hazards, +will be terminated and the students will not be allowed to finish their +degrees. + +Stewardship and Environmental Stability + + Beyond the economic benefits that NOAA provides to the Nation, many +of its activities and duties help to maintain environmental stability, +help to support human health, and help to enhance national security. +The conservation and stewardship aspects of NOAA are vital to these +many benefits provided by the agency. Some examples include: + +NOAA works to preserve the Nation's living marine + resources by managing our fisheries and essential fish habitats + for safe and sustainable harvesting and consumption, by + protecting marine mammals under its jurisdiction, and by + helping to implement the Endangered Species Act; + + NOAA protects our underwater treasures through the + National Marine Sanctuary System, which maintain, monitor, and + enhance the natural biodiversity, historical and cultural + heritage, and other unique qualities of these areas, while + enhancing public awareness, understanding, and stewardship + towards the marine environment; and + + NOAA helps manage the Nation's coastal zones to + balance competing demands, maintains a national network of + monitoring programs that detect, quantify and forecast changes + in coastal environmental quality, and works to protect coastal + communities from the occurrence of disastrous oil and hazardous + material spills and limiting the effects of spills on coastal + resources that are vital to local economies. + +NOAA Organic Act + + Many members of the Friends of NOAA Coalition believe that an +organic act would be very useful to guide the continued development of +the policies, priorities, and programs of NOAA. I would like to offer +some suggestions on the issues to be addressed in the hope that +Congress will move to enact an organic act for NOAA. + Both the U.S. Commission on Ocean Policy and the Pew Commission +argued strongly for an organic statute for NOAA. I believe such a bill +would significantly strengthen the agency by providing a clear mandate +from Congress to the Nation's lead civilian agency for oceans and +atmosphere. The Joint Ocean Commission Initiative's recent report, From +Sea to Shining Sea, also calls on Congress to codify and strengthen +NOAA and thereby enhance its missions. + A comprehensive NOAA organic act should address the following key +issues-- + + Management--including the management of ocean and + coastal areas and living and non-living marine resources, + including fisheries, ocean and coastal areas, vulnerable + species and habitats, and protection from pollution and + invasive species; + + Assessment, prediction, and operations for + atmospheric, ocean, and coastal atmospheric environments, + including mapping and charting, satellite-based and in situ + data collection, implementation of the Integrated Ocean + Observing System, broadly based data information systems, and + climate and weather services and products; and + + Research and education on all aspects of oceanic and + atmospheric resources, including a focus on the importance of + research and development, the use of scientifically valid + technical data throughout the agency and with external + partners, and promotion of educational activities at all levels + across the agency and with the public. + + Within any NOAA organic act, beginning with a strengthened science +program and a more service-oriented approach, NOAA should promote +inclusiveness and a commitment to meaningful partnerships with other +agencies, states, the private sector, and the academic community. Where +partnerships are strong, each institution benefits from the strengths +of the others and the tendency to duplicate similar expertise and +functions are minimized. + Extramural partnerships were stressed in the recommendations from +the NOAA Research Review Team's Review of the Organization and +Management of Research in NOAA which said, among other things, ``NOAA +cannot accomplish its goals without the extramural community, +specifically the universities and institutions that represent the broad +range of expertise and resources across the physical, biological, and +social sciences. Moreover, there is the important issue of maintaining +a scientific and technologically competent workforce in NOAA and that +workforce is another `product' of the external research community.'' We +urge Congress to provide explicit authority and guidance via a NOAA +Organic Act that will emphasize the development of meaningful +partnerships with NOAA's stakeholders and partners. + +NOAA, NASA, NSF and the Earth Sciences + + No discussion about the role of NOAA is complete without +recognizing the inextricable linkage that exists between NOAA, NASA and +NSF. The importance of NOAA research and the unique niche that it fills +vis-a-vis both NASA and NSF research is very important and is one of +the areas that is always seemingly misunderstood when it comes to the +vitally important issue of Earth-observing systems, and of the need for +end-to end scientific research in support of operations, applications, +and services needed by multiple sectors of society including private +industry and society in general. + This committee has already heard from the co-chairs of the National +Academy of Sciences panel that prepared the decadal survey entitled, +Earth Science and Applications from Space: Urgent Needs and +Opportunities to Serve the Nation. The panel's interim report made the +following observations: + + ``The current U.S. civilian Earth observing system centers on + the environmental satellites operated by NOAA; the atmosphere-, + biosphere-, ocean-, ice-, and land-observation satellites of + NASA's Earth Observing System (EOS); and the Landsat + satellites, which are operated by a cooperative arrangement + involving NASA, NOAA, and the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). + Today, this system of environmental satellites is at risk of + collapse. Although NOAA plans to modernize and refresh its + weather satellites, NASA has no plan to replace its EOS + platforms after their nominal six-year lifetimes end (beginning + with the Terra satellite in 2005), and it has canceled, + descoped, or delayed at least six planned missions, including + the Landsat Data Continuity Mission. + + ``. . .a substantial reduction in Earth observation programs + today will result in a loss of U.S. scientific and technical + capacity, which will decrease the competitiveness of the United + States internationally for years to come. U.S. leadership in + science, technology development, and societal applications + depends on sustaining competence across a broad range of + disciplines that include the Earth sciences.'' + + In January 2007, the National Academies released the final report +of the Decadal Survey panel. In the final report, the panel reiterated +the concerns about the Nation's system of environmental satellites +being ``at risk of collapse.'' The final report states: ``In the short +period since the publication of the Interim Report, budgetary +constraints and programmatic difficulties at NASA and NOAA have greatly +exacerbated this concern. At a time of unprecedented need, the Nation's +Earth observation satellite programs, once the envy of the world, are +in disarray.'' + At a time when policy-makers worldwide are grappling with the +important issue of climate change and global warming, allowing such +disarray to develop in our Earth observing systems makes no sense to +me. The Coalition supports the continued vigilance of this committee on +this matter and urge the Administration and the Congress to provide the +necessary support to move our Earth-observing systems forward rather +than backward. + +An Independent NOAA + + As this committee knows well, the idea of making NOAA into an +independent agency is not new and remains a controversial proposal. At +the very least, however, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) +could consider reviewing NOAA's budget within its natural resource +programs directorate, rather than the general government programs +directorate. This change would make it easier to reconcile NOAA's +budget with those of the other major resource-oriented departments and +agencies, all of which are reviewed as natural resource programs at +OMB. Enactment of a NOAA Organic Act provides a useful forum for the +consideration of such a proposal. + +Conclusion + + The members of the Friends of NOAA Coalition appreciate the severe +budgetary constraints under which the Congress is working. However, we +also believe that NOAA and its partners directly contribute to the +health, safety, and continued economic competitiveness of our country. +Therefore, the Coalition urges the Congress to recognize the importance +of NOAA--and the information it produces and services it provides--by +fully supporting an appropriation of at least $4.5 billion (again, only +about $15/American annually) and legislation to codify and strengthen +the agency as the legislative and congressional budget processes go +forward over the coming months. + On behalf of the dozens of organizations, companies, and +universities that make up the Friends of NOAA Coalition, we are +grateful for the opportunity to participate in this hearing. I would be +happy to try to answer any questions you and the Members of the +Committee might have. + Thank you. + + [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] + + Biography for Len Pietrafesa + After receiving his Ph.D. in Geophysical Fluid Dynamics in 1973 +from the University of Washington, Dr. Len Pietrafesa joined the +faculty at North Carolina State University and was made Full Professor +(of Ocean & Atmospheric Sciences) in 1980. He served as the Head of the +Department of Marine, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences for over 10 years +and is presently the Associate Dean for External Affairs at the College +of Physical and Mathematical Science. Dr. Pietrafesa's research and +publications are diverse and include: estuary plume dynamics; coastal +storm induced surge, flood and inundation forecasts; the interaction +between the atmosphere and ocean in coastal storm genesis and +intensification; interactive wave-current coupled modeling; the +climatology of the frequency of occurrence and tracks of tropical; and +the role of science in public policy. Recent foci are on the linkages +between weather and climate and human disease, end to end modeling of +physical through human systems and building a real time reporting +coastal air-sea observing network offshore of the Carolinas in which +data is assessed on the fly and assimilated into interactively coupled +atmospheric-ocean models. He also discovered the mechanisms for the +topographic deflection of the Gulf Stream at the Charleston Bump and +the creation of the Charleston Trough, which he discovered and named, +and coined the air-sea interaction term ``buoyancy stress.'' + Dr. Pietrafesa is widely published (more than 180 publications) and +his community service includes being Chair of the NOAA Science Advisory +Board (eight years total on the Board, five years as the Chair); a +member of the Board of Trustees of the University Corporation for +Atmospheric Research (for six years); former Chair of the USA-Peoples +Republic of China Steering Committee on Virtual Co-Laboratories; former +Chair of the National Association of State Universities and Land Grant +Colleges Board on Oceans and Atmosphere and Vice Chair of the +Commission on Environment, Food and Renewable Resource. He was also +former Chair of the Council on Ocean Affairs, the precursor to the +Consortium for Oceanographic Research and Education (an organization he +helped form). As well as former Chair of the American Meteorology +Society Educational Advisory Committee, and a member of the American +Geophysical Union Committee on Public Affairs. He has chaired 25 Ph.D. +and 25 M.Sc. committees and mentored 15 post-doctoral students. He has +given written and oral testimony on capitol Hill to committees on +science in both the House and the Senate regarding such topics as: +``are we prepared as a nation for severe weather''; ``what were the +three most important recommendations in the COPS report''; and ``is the +academic community in support of the American Competitiveness +Initiative.'' + + Discussion + + National Weather Service Operations + + Chairman Lampson. Thank you very much. Let us start in with +the questioning. As I said before, we will go back and forth +between each of the sides as normal. There is an old saying +that we all know. If something is not broken, do not fix it. + With that thought in mind, what is the current status of +NOAA's concept of operations plan for change in the +configuration of local weather forecasting offices of the +National Weather Service, Admiral? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. For the past couple of years, +obviously to try to be as efficient as you possibly can with +the taxpayer resources, we are looking for ways to be more +efficient with services from our forecast offices. We have not +fully fleshed out all of the ideas that I think are relevant in +that area. We are looking at ways to deal with that, and +basically the current idea is on hold while we look at ways to +modify it or change it. But we are going to continue with the +service that we have today and not make any changes until new +ideas can be tested and be thoroughly vetted with our unions +and our personnel. + Chairman Lampson. Are you looking at trying to achieve a +cost savings in the Weather Service operations? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. We need to involve building new +products. So when I talk about saving money, we are trying to +figure out how to take care of some of the needs that we have +that are not covered today by being able to be more efficient +in the way we do business. I would like to prefer to say it +that way. + Chairman Lampson. And I assume that is a yes? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Well, we have a lot of need to +provide climate forecasting, ecosystem forecasting, and +extensions of our hazardous weather forecasts. So there is more +that can be done, that needs to be done, as the Nation grows; +and we need ways to be able to accommodate that within our +program. So looking for ways to deliver that service in a more +efficient way is one of the things that we are trying to work +on. + Chairman Lampson. Has there been any effort to try to look +at in terms of a percentage or dollar terms as to what kind of +savings you might be interested in trying to achieve? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Our target is to be more +efficient but maintain the service that we have to date with +room for more service. There is no target. There is no, you +must save five percent, you must save 10 percent. We have found +that in an area where you are providing 24-7 emergency coverage +for the Nation is not the right way to go about delivering +those services. Arbitrary cuts generally don't work. + Chairman Lampson. In the agency briefing to staff in +January on the Concept of Operations (CONOPS) plan, General +Johnson indicated that NOAA would ``demonstrate operability, +performance, and effectiveness before committing to changes.'' +What activities are you planning to demonstrate operability, +performance, and effectiveness? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Well, right now they are looking +at ways to set up a testing process. I haven't approved the +final testing process yet, so I can't sit here and tell you +exactly how that will be done, but we have to do a test in a +way that is fair, that doesn't eliminate any service, and that +goes along with the congressional advice on indications on what +we should do with our spending. So we intend to honor those +indications that we have from Congress. + Chairman Lampson. Is the agency planning to obtain comments +from the outside community of the National Weather Service +stakeholders', State and local emergency managers, for example, +who rely on local forecasting office personnel for information +and assistance? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Absolutely. I run an active +forum with our stakeholders as well as General Johnson, and any +changes we make are always discussed with our stakeholders. + Chairman Lampson. Are NOAA's employees fully informed of +the agency's plans and are they being included in the planning +and demonstration of the proposed changes? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Yes, they are and they will be. + + National Polar Orbiting Operational Environmental Satellite + System (NPOESS) + + Chairman Lampson. This committee has been following the +NPOESS program closely for years now, and it is well over +budget and behind schedule. + The risk of a gap in our weather data is still quite high. +The estimate for the procurement of the new geostationary +satellite series is well-above the previous estimate, but there +is no indication in this budget or in any recent budgets that +the Administration has presented to this Congress that any +adjustments are being made to accommodate the budget realities +associated with the true cost of your satellite procurement +programs. It looks like the administration's plan is to pass +the bill for all of this onto the next administration. Even a +small cost overrun by satellite procurement standards +translates into significant amounts of money where NOAA's other +programs are concerned. + Where are the additional funds that are needed to continue +support for the existing essential programs at NOAA? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. The funding that is in our +budget and that is projected, which we provided as Congress +asked for the next five years, is the restructured NPOESS +program. That represents a fully funded program that will +deliver the Nunn-McCurdy Review Program which was briefed to +the Committee. The numbers for this year that are there is 100 +percent of the funding that is needed to maintain this program +on track and to minimize the risk, and the numbers that we have +in the out years, 2009, 2010, are the projections. We intend to +work hard to ensure that the funding remains on track and that +the program that we brief to you will be delivered at this +point on track; and I will fight for the funds to try to do +that. + Chairman Lampson. Even in the outyears? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Even in the outyears. I am a +shameless advocate of these programs, and I will continue to +fight to get what I think is right, sir. + Chairman Lampson. Thank you very much. I will now recognize +the Ranking Member, Mr. Inglis, for five minutes. + + Wildfire and Drought Warnings + + Mr. Inglis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We were talking about +a number of things recently when you and I had an opportunity +to get together, and I am particularly interested in wildfires +and planning for droughts and how NOAA might be helpful in that +way. Is that something that you currently do? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Yes, we do. We are involved in +providing warnings for wildfires. We use satellites to help us +get the information where wildfires might be starting and then +we use the atmospheric information that we get from the +satellites as well as ground-based information to plot smoke +plumes, and we provide tailored forecasts to firefighters on +scene. And when there is a significant fire, we deploy what we +call an I-MET, a well-trained meteorologist with a field +computer receiving station right to the command post on-site in +the firefighting to provide, which is the most important thing +you can do for firefighters is to give them an idea what is +happening locally with winds and precipitation and +temperatures. That is what we do, and that is a normal service +and we intend to try to make it better. + We are looking at doing better models, we are looking at +improving the links with our satellites and the use of more +information and working with the Department of Agriculture, the +Forestry Service, and the other folks, the states and the local +emergency managers. It is an important part of our mission. + Mr. Inglis. How about the long-range aspects of that? Any +ability to predict a drought in this planting season, for +example, such that it wouldn't be wise to plant somewhere +because we see that this is coming? Are we that good or is that +a ways away still? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. It is not far away, and thanks +to the bill in Congress that you all helped pass last year, the +NIDIS Bill, the Integrated Drought Information System is going +to create a network that uses the federal networks as well as +local networks, private networks, to build a much finer scale +of information that can be brought in to produce models that +will give us a much better handle on predicting the future. We +believe that with the integrated ocean observing system that +was just talked about in addition to the new sensors on +satellites, that we will be able to do things like accurately +forecasting seasonal conditions so that planting and crop +rotation and management of livestock can be done on a much more +economically sound basis taking into account environmental +conditions. I believe that we are at the threshold of being +able to do that. + + Insufficient Funding Levels + + Mr. Inglis. Dr. Pietrafesa, you testified I believe that +the funding level you would recommend is $4.5 billion. As I +understand it we are at $3.8 billion in this request. And +climate change is obviously a significant topic around here. Do +you think that the $3.8 billion is sufficient to have NOAA be +gathering the information that we need or how do you think we +will fare at the $3.8 billion level? + Dr. Pietrafesa. I don't believe we will fare very well and +the reason is in various parts of NOAA, there are activities +that will contribute to our better understanding of climate, +but for lack of the distributed observing network, the global +observing network that is required, let alone the observing +network in the coastal areas of the United States, the Great +Lakes, and even over land, we are lacking the data that is +needed and the precision of the data, the resolution of the +data that is really required to really detect climate signals. +That said, our ability to archive and store the data and to +scrub that data and make that data available in near-real time +or real time to industry, to university, researchers, and to +federal agency researchers and information providers is +compromised because the budgets are so tight. + One of the issues that really challenged the Science +Advisory Board was the fact that NOAA simply can't afford to +invest as much money as we believe it could or it should rather +into the data activity. And NOAA has made every effort to +improve its data archiving and access facilities and +capabilities, but they are just under capitalized in that area. +Also, the assessments of those data require different kinds of +mathematical methodologies, both deterministic and statistical +and empirical. And that requires an investment not only in the +computers to be able to analyze those massive data sets but to +integrate those data sets with each other; and these are +diverse, different but complementary data sets that need to be +integrated if one is going to truly resolve what the +relationships are between different climate factors and the +weather delivery systems that evolve from these climate +conditions. That takes people, it takes personnel, that takes +extramural engagement, that is engagement of the extramural +community, the university community, private industry, along +with the NOAA scientists. And that is a considerable +enterprise. + So just in the data area, if we saw another $25 to $50 +million that would go a long way towards improving the +capability of the agency to deliver more timely climate +information and better climate information, more advance +climate information, and in fact to get into the downscaling +and upscaling of the climate to weather models and vice versa. +And these are not just weather models--it doesn't end with the +weather models. It actually could move into the ecological +area. + So one could anticipate ecological impacts from various +climate conditions, along with socioeconomic impacts. The +Science Advisory Board believes that it is entirely possible to +go from physical phenomenon to socioeconomic impacts in a +seamless way through some complex mathematics and assimilation +of the data that NOAA has in its archives or should be and +could be collecting in its archives were it not +undercapitalized. + Chairman Lampson. The gentleman from Washington, the +Chairman of the Research and Science Education Committee I'll +recognize for five minutes. + + Law Enforcement Capability + + Mr. Baird. I thank the Chair. Thank you, Gentlemen. Being +from Washington State we are obviously interested in NOAA's +activities. Particularly I want to ask a question about the +resources available. Almost by its nature, NOAA is going to +have to spend a lot of time in the water. Do you have adequate +resources and what sorts of resources do you need for two main +missions, both enforcement and research? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Those are fully loaded +questions. + Mr. Baird. They are not meant to be loaded. I know they are +broad. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. No, no, they are broad. But +enforcement, I believe that we have the right amount of money +in our budget to be able to deal with enforcement, and what is +important about our enforcement budget is that it leverages +State assets and resources. Part of our budget is designed to +have cooperative agreements with each of the States that bring +their Department of Fisheries and Wildlife and DNR people in so +we have seamless enforcement of our rules between the State +waters and between the federal waters. + Mr. Baird. I have been told that some of your vessels are +kind of aging to say the least and not up to the task of +tracking down people who are violating our maritime laws. And +that is really, on the enforcement side, that is the nature of +my concern. We have got these wonderful sanctuaries or other +zones of protection or just natural interest. Do you guys have +the folks who can track somebody as an intruder? They spend +time out in the region themselves, in the real world in the +region, and then if somebody does intrude or violate laws, +track them down. That is the essence what I am after. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. I understand your question. The +sanctuaries have small boats that they do use for enforcement +activities inside the marine sanctuaries, which of course, +there is a number on the West Coast. We try to recapitalize +those boats with what we have. Obviously the fleet is aging, +but we are able to each year replace a few and try to move on. +We also use the cooperative agreements again. Fish and Wildlife +helps us in places where we have adjoining types of preserves +and national monument areas and national management areas. And +the states help us as well. But in fact, it is difficult at +times to maintain full coverage of all of our national marine +sanctuaries. They have their large areas, and that is true. + + Research Capability + + Mr. Baird. The second question, in particular, Doctor, the +research side, do we have the kinds of vessels we need. I +remember talking to somebody a couple years ago, and the nature +of the vessel--if they wanted to study an area, they weren't +equipped to go overnight for a couple of days. And so they were +having to go out, study during the day, and come back; and sort +of common sense says, one, that is not the most economical way. +If you have the seakeeping capacity and the berths and whatnot +to spend a couple days there, you could save all that transit +time, plus you are in the environment longer. You can do real- +time continuous observation versus--anyway, any thoughts on +that? + Dr. Pietrafesa. We have been able to in the last couple of +years with some congressional help to provide some larger +vessels. There is a new one now at the Monterey Bay Sanctuary +that allows us to go overnight for several days and do the +kinds of research activities that you've mentioned. I think +this new boat is a good prototype for the future. We are +looking as we can build the capital budgets to be able to put +more of these in our sanctuaries, but they are an important +adjunct to research. + Mr. Baird. Thank you. Admiral, Doctor, any comments on +that? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Yeah, I mentioned earlier the +integrated ocean observing system, part of the deploying and +maintaining and recovering and keeping the system alive is +actually a research activity because the kinds of systems that +have been deployed in the past are not necessarily real time +but all of the NOAA assets have been real time. But some of the +new observing systems are capable of observing for example wave +spectra, that is, the propagation of waves and also tell you +not just the amplitude of the waves but which way they are +moving. And getting that data back in real time is a challenge +because, you know, you are collecting data every half-second; +and so you need wide band widths and you need to be able to +talk to the instruments out in the ocean, so it has to be two- +way communication. + But those sensors are still in developmental stages, and +NOAA is going to have to develop a strategy to maintain those +systems once they are shown to be very valuable, particularly +in predicting things like riptides for example which take so +many lives per year. And once they get into that game, they are +going to have to be able to get back out there to service these +instruments. It is not going to be an annual servicing but +rather it may have to be every six months. + Mr. Baird. So that will need to be in the budget? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. That needs to be in the budget +as well. + + National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) + + Mr. Baird. Admiral, educate me. NMFS is part of your +budget, correct? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Yes, it is. + Mr. Baird. One of the challenges we face in the northwest +has been with the listing of salmon steelhead, and those +species. Permitting times are extraordinarily costly to our +economy. I recognize the importance of your job in trying to do +the environmental review process, but when we don't have enough +personnel to move permits quickly, literally hundreds of +millions of dollars and significant opportunity costs result. + So I would be interested first of all in your comments on +your budget as it relates to personnel to process permits. +Secondly I want to commend some of your folks in the district. +We have really initiated, at my request, some collaborative +efforts where NMFS works with Fish and Wildlife, Corps of +Engineers works with EPA, as needed, and with State agencies to +do simultaneous parallel processing of permits, to work on +programmatic kinds of permits. Any comments either on that +approach and/or personnel would be much appreciated. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Yes, sir. Thank you very much +with recognizing the issues that we have with permitting. We +have some additional money, not a lot, in this budget to help +improve the permitting system and get a few more people on it. +It is one of the issues that generally is not recognized as +important in my view as it ought to be. I am a strong advocate +for increasing resources in that area. Each year I try to do as +much as I can to improve both in the marine mammal protection +area as well as in the fishery permits and the consultations +that we have to do for various other licensing that occurs for +power dams and all that other thing. + I am a big fan of the streamlining and of simultaneous +processes. We have tried to make strong bridging agreements +with the Interior Department and local areas so we can do +things simultaneously and try to improve, and EPA as well to +try to improve it. I strongly support all efforts to make that +a collaborative effort. + Mr. Baird. I appreciate that. I know my time has expired. +The last comment I would make is I personally believe that +investing in additional permitting personnel would vastly pay +back the taxpayers in terms of expedited review process. + Chairman Lampson. I want to continue a little bit of what +Mr. Baird was talking about, because while he is having a +problem with salmon in one place, I am having a problem with +red fish at another place. And I know how important rebuilding +stocks are and it is a priority of the administration, but what +has been requested, $3.96 billion is about 2.7 percent below +the fiscal year 2006 appropriated funding including $795.9 +million for the National Marine Fishery Service, nearly $8 +million less than what was appropriated in fiscal year 2006. + So for the past year, I have been literally beaten up over +concerns from the Texas Gulf Coast regarding stock assessments, +especially like when it comes to red snapper. Now, there are +commercial interest, there are recreational anglers which is a +significant part of the economy there. In my district and in +surrounding districts, along with commercial shrimpers, both +shrimpers and commercial boats have experienced losses in +recent years with some being literally forced out of business. +One of the largest and most popular snapper fishing party boats +just recently announced that he could no longer stay in +business because of seasons and size restrictions. Anglers have +to throw back catch that is deemed too small, and one of the +problems with catching red snapper, which is a fish that goes +at a very deep water, and if you pull a fish up very quickly as +one does in fishing and you find out that it is not the right +size and you have to release it, it is dead. + And so we are drawing a good resource. And that means that +I get to catch more of those fish and pull them up and kill +them as well. And if they are not the right size, then we throw +them overboard as well. + So we got some serious problems here that have been +discussed for a long time but don't seem to be reaching the +point of solution. It results in higher mortality rates and +consequently, lower stocks. And they are being forced to comply +with shorter and shorter seasons which is supposed to help in +rebuilding the stock but I am not convinced that it is. + Same question, is this budget request sufficient to perform +the real research necessary to provide adequate stock +assessment and management? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. A couple of comments. The +Magnuson-Stevens Bill under which we manage fishery was just +reauthorized by Congress last year. So it is a bill that +includes actually stronger provisions in it to prevent over- +fishing. The Administration has added another $6.5 million to +try to accommodate the work that goes on. Some of that is to +improve the amount of effort that goes into the science so that +we don't have the debates on what is the right science for +this. + Chairman Lampson. How does that fit with this which has +been decreased? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. You were talking about the +section of the National Marine Fishery Service budget, and I +will point out to you that that is the area that was shall we +say least reduced from the enacted level. It is almost at the +same level as Congress had left it in fiscal year 2006. That +area is not a big change. There are changes if you look +across---- + Chairman Lampson. $8 million? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. $8 million out of---- + Chairman Lampson. $8 million less. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher.--$800. $8 million out of $800, +roughly. I mean that is the numbers you are looking at, I +think, right? Around $790-something, $804? I haven't got it in +front of me. The Fishery Service of all of our areas is closer +to being what Congress authorized in previous years. None of +our areas are up to the level as been pointed out by all of +you, that we are roughly $100 million down from the enacted +levels that we are working on this year with the continuing +resolution, but these are increases over what the +administration asked for last year. Again, I come before +Congress with continued offers to work with Congress to make +sure that the money is put in the right places, that together +the Nation uses it as well as we can. + But we have added more money to help us with Magnuson- +Stevens which is what you are---- + Chairman Lampson. Okay. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher.--commenting on. + Chairman Lampson. What about in working with other +agencies, for example, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, +other States' agencies to increase the data collection efforts, +especially when it comes to licensing of recreational anglers +and tracking of charter boats. Additional work---- + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. There is $3 million to try to +improve that effort. We recognize that in the National Academy, +we asked for a National Academy Report, that we need to have +better information for recreational anglers, that it is +obviously a major part of our economy and our coastal +management issues. + Chairman Lampson. Would you like to make a comment on this, +Dr. Pietrafesa? My time is expired, but I think it would be---- + Dr. Pietrafesa. Sure. This is an area where I believe that +investments would really be wise and would be very productive. +As I said in my testimony, the U.S. appetite for seafood is +such that we are going to need an additional 4.5 billion pounds +to appear in our supermarkets over the very short term in the +future. And I see that there are two approaches that could be +taken. One is that we need to be investing in research that +looks at the stocks, the strength of the stocks, also the year- +class strengths of the recruits as relates to climate factors +and weather conditions, you know, changes in precipitation, +river discharge and the like, changes in how the loop current +in your part of the world, how the transport of the loop +current changes from year to year or even season to season. So +that is how the wild stock varies as a function of naturally +occurring phenomenon. + On the other side, we need research on creating new +agricultural industries, and so if you are going to invest $3 +million a year in regulation, it seems to me that centers of +excellence could be created at least on the order of $6 +million. At least initially that could be located at some key +locations around the country where agriculture research could +be done along with climatological weather, ecological research +that could be done. + So one could take a look at the agriculture approach as +well as the wild stock approach to better understand the +natural system as well as growing and raising new stocks. + Chairman Lampson. I have a personal request, Admiral +Lautenbacher, and that is you help me find some way that I can +personally work with the folks in NMFS and see if we can't get +them to better listen to the tens of thousands of sports +fishermen who really know particularly the Western Gulf. My +guess is that many know other areas of the Gulf of Mexico as +well. But these people truly feel that they are not being heard +or listened to by this agency. That is a personal request on my +part, and I would be honored if you would work with me on that. + And at this time I will recognize Mr. Inglis. + + Satellite Capability + + Mr. Inglis. I thought you were going to ask him to help you +identify where the big ones were, or that is what I thought. +Admiral Lautenbacher, back to the climate change issue. Help me +understand NOAA's role in all that the Federal Government is +doing about climate change. I take it you have a fair amount of +the responsibility for the work that is going on, right? NASA +is also involved and spends a lot of money on satellites. How +does that break down? Describe the role of NOAA as compared to +other agencies that are doing other things? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. We have a very strong interest +and a strong talent and skills to deal with climate issues. We +are part of the government-wide Climate Change Science Program. +In fact, one of our people is the leader of that program, Dr. +Bill Brennan. We contribute across the full spectrum of climate +services in general, from research up through products that our +Weather Service puts out regularly for people which was +mentioned a little earlier in our experimentation to be more +efficient. + So we have the laboratories to do the modeling. The +Princeton Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory's model is +ranked in the top of the models that was used in the IPCC +Report which just came out earlier in February. We have the +satellites that are--some of the data is climate quality, a lot +of it is not. We are at the verge of an era where we need to +build more climate satellite instruments that provide the right +kinds of accuracy for climate variables, but what we have NOAA +provides and uses. We maintain the depository for all of our +climate information at the Climate Data Center. Basically the +Library of Congress for Scientific Information on Climate is +maintained inside NOAA. We have the delivery service, weather +forecast offices, to provide the products to the people, to the +public, to emergency managers. So we have a, you might say, +sort of a full-service range of activities that we are engaged +in. + We also do assessments because of the impact of climate +change on living marine resources and coastal resources where +we have, you know, the legislation that requires us to maintain +activities in those areas for fisheries as we just mentioned. + So we are a full-service climate organization. It is one of +our strategic goals, climate change and planning and reacting +to climate change for the future. I have organized the whole +NOAA enterprise into four themes. We have one manager that +manages climate services and deals with that whole arena. So we +are very much engaged in it from A to Z. + Mr. Inglis. So for example in the satellites, do you pay +for the satellites that you just mentioned? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Yeah, we pay--I forgot to +mention the NASA role. NASA builds the research satellites and +really most of our climate satellites today are research +satellites. And so they are a one-of-a-kind research instrument +that has been put into place, and they are being used to +further our climate records. NOAA operates and maintains the +operational satellites. So we have a constellation of +satellites that ranges from two in a geostationary orbit that +are constantly looking at both coasts of the United States. +That is good for hurricanes and severe weather. + And then we have polar orbiting satellites that have an +orbit of 90-some minutes that circle the Earth and provide-- +they are much lower orbit. They are not 23,000, 22,000 miles, +they are down at 500 miles or so; and they provide much of the +data that goes into our models. So those are operational +satellites. And the NPOESS program, which I talked about, is +sort of the next generation polar orbiting satellite. + We are trying to move climate instruments from the research +into operational, and that is part of the issue of the +difficulty of building the NPOESS program, the risk involved in +doing that. We have had to stretch out the movement of those +instruments from NASA satellites to NOAA operational +satellites. + Let me stop. Does that help? + Mr. Inglis. Who pays for the delivery of the satellites +into space? Does NASA do that or do you have to pay them to do +that? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. My part of the Commerce +Department budget contains the money for the operational +satellites. The research satellites--and we also use that data +for weather forecasting--are operated and funded by NASA. So we +feed off and need the Earth-observing part of NASA's budget to +help us with our climate services and weather services +delivery. + Mr. Inglis. Absent the plus-ups that you hope to get I +guess as this goes through the process, without those, you do +all right on the things you have just been describing or do +those get tight as well as--I know the overhead is particularly +tight without--in other words, the ability to pay staff is +particularly difficult without those plus-ups, right? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. It is but let me say I support +the President's budget, so we have tried to craft a budget +which includes enough money for payroll raises for all of our +people. And so my plea generally to Congress and certainly to +the House has been support the President's budget. We generally +have been reduced. The House mark has generally been reduced +for NOAA, not increased. So that has been part of the dynamic +that shapes our operating from year to year. + But the President's budget has been crafted. We have tried +to craft a budget that will maintain the services with the +right amount of inflation that funds this year's increment for +these satellites at exactly what is needed, 100 percent; and +again, I will fight for the money for next year and the next +year, and I will keep going until we get these things in place. + We have also included, which I think is very important for +this committee, in the 2007 budget, we have included $19 +million to help return climate sensors to the NPOESS program +that we have had to stretch. Let us not say to the program +itself but to find alternative ways if necessary, put them on +other satellites, free-flying satellites, have other agreements +with our international partners that launch satellites, +commercial industries. So we are looking very hard, and there +is money there to ensure that we don't lose any data continuity +from the sensors that we have had to stretch out because of the +NPOESS development difficulties. + + International Collaboration + + Mr. Inglis. You just mentioned something interesting, that +is the international cooperation. I take it a fair amount of +the information that you gather is shared with folks around the +world? So actually it is in effect assistance to the rest of +the world that we are providing with weather, is that right? I +mean, do we freely share this information or is it available to +the world-wide community? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. We do. We share the information +and we have worked through the World Meteorological +Organization for some 80 years to build a network around the +world. It is an example for what I use for a global Earth- +observing system of systems which we are also working on for +more areas to be able to share the information because our +weather comes from China and the Pacific Ocean. In fact, a +number of years ago, the Europeans loaned us a satellite when +we had one that had difficulty. We have helped the Japanese +when their satellite went down with one of our older ones that +was in orbit. So there is an international group that looks at +trying to maintain a continuous constellation and weather +information because everyone needs it, and we all benefit from +it. + Mr. Inglis. How dominant are we in that area? I mean, in +other words, does the world depend on us or are we depending on +them or is it mutual or are we the big players or---- + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. We are big players, obviously, +because the United States is big player on everything. And so +NOAA is a unique concept. The rest of the world has not caught +up with the NOAA idea, yet which is bringing together Earth, +atmospheric and ocean organizations together to provide the +interdisciplinary information for climate change, for ecosystem +management, for improving warnings, weather and warnings, and +that sort of thing. But we are dominant in the sense that we +are a large agency that brings together scientific disciplines +in a way that other nations have not done yet. But quite +frankly, we need other nations because we can't observe the +weather over Russia the same way they can or with their +geostationary satellite. So that international collaboration is +very important and actually existed through the Cold War. + Mr. Inglis. So that is a constant updating kind of thing +where we are constantly getting and sharing information, +getting it and sharing it? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. It is constantly being sent to +our data centers and then being made available through internet +and high-speed lines. You can go and look at our center, and +you can look at a composite of all the satellites, and I invite +any of the Members to come over to our operations center. It is +in Suitland. It is not far to go. It is an easy trip. You can +look at a composite of all the geostationary satellite data in +one shot, you can go to Europe at EUMETSAT and look at it in +their headquarters, you can go to Japan, Meteorological in +JAXA, their science space agency and see similar things. This +is an extraordinary--when you look at all the other +international problems we have, this is one that is very +importantly consummated in the right direction. + Mr. Inglis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. + Chairman Lampson. You are welcome. Mr. Baird. + + More on the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) + + Mr. Baird. Thank you. I want to go back if I may, Admiral, +and I am not trying to put you on the spot, I am just trying to +get some numbers actually. Do you have available the numbers in +terms of where your budget for permitting personnel will be if +it is broken down that way for this year versus the last +couple---- + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. We have line items that have +that in there. I don't have that off the top of my head. I will +be happy to provide you---- + Mr. Baird. Could you? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher.--the sections where we do +permitting and what the, you know, our budget loading is in +those areas. + Mr. Baird. Right. That would be helpful. And related to +that, how is that line item determined? I mean, does someone +look and say, look, here is what an average human being--not an +average but you have got exceptional people working for you--so +an exceptional human being who is processing permits. This is +what they can do, this is the permitting load as we see it now, +this is the shortfall, this is the waiting list, this is the +cost. Does somebody look at that? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. We do that and at the end, given +the allocations that we have we have to make decisions on how +much we can put in each of the areas that are worthwhile +spending money on, and usually this area comes up each year as +being one that needs and I add money to it. + Mr. Baird. That was part of my question. How important is +this? I can tell you, back home it is very important and I am +right there with you. I agree that money spent in this area is +well worth the effort. + But my friend from Texas was talking about the issue of +fish. We have some interesting harvest dynamics in our State. +We spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year trying to +restore enlisted salmon. And on their way back they get nailed +by a host of harvest activities, some human, some non-human; +but we have actually been working with NMFS on the issue of sea +lion predation. + So we have got a marine mammal, which is not in danger in +the case of California, the Sea Lion eating two to three +percent, maybe more, of the return of one dam alone. Three +percent of the returning endangered listed species, and we are +working actually with NMFS out in the district to try to +address that. We are also working with our sports fishermen +back--I don't know if this applies to your species but there is +a thing called survival boxes that net fisheries use so that +when you bring a fish in and it is one of the listed fish, we +actually clip the fins of the hatchery fish so we can +distinguish a hatchery fish from a listed natural fish. And if +you have caught a natural fish in your net--really, we don't +use a net on the commercial or the troll fishery. If you caught +a listed fish, you put it in a little box and the box has +circulating cold oxygenated water and though they look dead +when you put them in, they rally and have a remarkable survival +rate after that. And I do not know if it would apply down where +you are at, but it is a pretty astonishing thing to see. + Anyway, I just want to commend NMFS for working on that. I +think this harvest issue in the Pacific Northwest as we look at +salmon recovery, we are talking about the four H's as you know, +Admiral. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Yes, sir. + Mr. Baird. We talk about habitat, hydro, hatcheries, and +harvest. I think harvest has not been looked at enough, not to +say that it hasn't been looked at, but common sense says if +these fish have managed to survive the rigors of the ocean and +they are coming back and they are laden with 2,000 or 3,000 +eggs and they are the ones that are going to reproduce and that +is when we kill them or we let sea lions kill them, that is a +pretty counterintuitive strategy. It would be like building a +neonatal intensive care unit and putting snipers on the roof so +nobody can get in. + If we do all these things to restore habitat, and we ask +landowners and farmers and foresters and cities and governments +to improve the cleanliness of our water, the temperature of our +water, the quality of habitat which we do, and then we are not +as discriminating as we can be in the harvest, then we are +making a mistake. And I would like to work with you further on +that. I hear folks out there have been very good to work with, +but I just wanted to put that marker down. Anything you can do +to continue to increase the personnel so that we have a--I +guess at some point I don't expect you to do it here, I would +like some target in mind of how long we think the average +reasonable project from application to permit approval should +we take and then ask the staffing levels of your entity, the +Corps of Engineers predominantly, because it is really you two +folks who tend to be--Fish and Wildlife a little bit--but to +have some reasonable timeframe that we think we can tell our +consumers this is how long it is going to take to get a permit +so you can plan that and then hire staff and train staff and +deploy staff accordingly. That is what I would like us to do, +and then maybe we can have a dialogue about that. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. I hear you and I will work with +you, sir. + Mr. Baird. Thank you, Admiral. + + Climate Change + + Dr. Pietrafesa. Mr. Chairman, if I could actually respond +to or make a comment about Mr. Inglis' question about climate. +The Friends Coalition, which includes the Red Cross by the way, +believes that greater investments in climate really need to be +made. For example, the outbreak and spread of infectious +diseases that affect human health is of great interest to the +Friends Coalition. And this is an area where climate and +weather delivery systems can play a very important role both in +natural systems like outbreak of mosquitoes and the migration +of birds that can carry diseases and the like. And NOAA is the +agency that not only has the data archive that can be mined to +look for some of these relationships, but NOAA has the national +radar network that can actually track, you know, the migrations +of birds and insects, believe it or not. That is data that +actually contaminates the data that they need to use for winds +and precipitation, but it actually may be useful for health and +spreads of diseases. + So these are areas where NOAA has the capability and the +capacity to actually contribute to climate, weather, human +health but for which there is no funding presently. And you +know, an investment of $25 to $50 million a year would begin +that process. And NOAA is the agency that the Friends Coalition +looks to for climate information, for climate data and +information. + For example, I will turn to another area, sea level. NOAA +has the repositories, and in fact, NOAA is the agency that has +maintained the continuous time series of sea level back to the +early 1900s around the coastal waters of the United States +including the Great Lakes. And so those data really do +establish the sea level rise, the sea level trend, and the sea +level variability record which, believe it or not, if you don't +know what those overall trends are and you don't know how +changes in sea level occur from season to season, you can't +even initialize a surge and inundation model properly, either +off the North Carolina coast when a hurricane is bearing down +or on the Texas coast. + So these climate activities that could be occurring within +the agency are not because once again, the Friends Coalition +believes that the agency is under capitalized. + Mr. Inglis. Or figure out whether a ship can make it under +a bridge as we were talking the other day. By the way, I assure +you that there are mosquitoes large enough in South Carolina to +show up on radar. + Chairman Lampson. I can assure you they are in Texas as +well. Before Mr. Baird left, I was going to make an offer to +him that we each do a little research. He could come down and +find out some of the problems that we face with some of the red +snapper problems if he would in turn invite me to come out and +find out what some of the problems are with those steelhead +salmon. + Dr. Pietrafesa. We will be happy to do that, Mr. Chairman. + + More on the NPOESS + + Chairman Lampson. He might even enlist Mr. Diaz-Balart to +prove that there are differences between Eastern Gulf and +Western Gulf in the quality of fish. Let me go back if I may to +a question about the restriction of NPOESS program. As a result +of the Nunn-McCurdy restructuring, many sensors vital to +monitoring weather and climate were eliminated. The weather +quality data that will be collected from the remaining NPOESS +sensors won't be precise enough to meet the needs of climate +change monitoring and science. + You provided us with the January 2007 White Paper that NASA +and NOAA prepared at the direction of Dr. Marburger, the +Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy. And +you told the Committee last year that NPOESS would be built +with the capacity to house all the sensors. The January 2007 +White Paper recommended that three sensors be restored to +NPOESS. Are these sensors going to be restored? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. We have been able to, as I +mentioned, the allocation within the 2007 budget to put one of +the sensors back on the OMPS limb sensor, we believe we can put +that back on right now. We have money to look at how to get the +others on, but at this point we are still doing cost estimates +and doing alternatives to be able to handle the replacement or +the sustainment of the sensors that are mentioned in the study +that you have that we turned in to Dr. Marburger. + Chairman Lampson. What level of funding is required to +develop it? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. I don't have a precise number at +this point for it. + Chairman Lampson. Could you speculate? Just give me an +approximate. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. But over a period of five or six +years, it is probably a total of $300 or $400 million. I mean +we are talking--and maybe more. But it is in the hundreds of +millions, okay, to deal with this over a longer period, not in +one budget, but it is cost-streamed over a period of time to +get all of them back into some position, either on NPOESS or on +another bus. + Chairman Lampson. Why would we not include a request for +that in the 2008 budget, knowing that Congress has really +pushed for this and wanted it to be done? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. I don't believe we have the +fidelity to come up here and support nickel by nickel how that +money would be spend and give you an honest plan that we would +stand up and say this is going to work. We need to do the work +we are doing now which is to provide alternatives and look at +the cost of various--and have a good estimate, an independent +cost estimate of what it would take to do this. + Chairman Lampson. Waiting three, four, five years? Think we +will be able to have it? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. I plan to do it this year. We +plan to have assets of alternatives in the next few months. + Chairman Lampson. But would we be able to have it almost +certainly in the fiscal year 2009 budget? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. It is my goal to try to do that, +yes. + Chairman Lampson. As we wait longer, what kind of estimate +might you guess that it is going to cost additional because of +the time differential and can we speed it up and save money? +And would that be wise for us to do? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. I am all for speeding it up as +quickly as possible. Part of the issue is to not incur the +risk. The reason they are not on there today is not because we +do not want the sensors or the data, it is because of the risk +in building a satellite and having something that will work, +that will pass the test, and will be launched on time. + So we have the issue of ensuring that we don't increase the +risk to the program in terms of cost and schedule, and given +that we meet that, then I absolutely agree that we should do it +as efficiently and as rapidly as technically feasible. We +should do it efficiently. I am all for it. + + Water Monitoring Programs + + Chairman Lampson. Okay. Let me just squeeze one more +question in, and then I am going to turn this over to the +Ranking Member on the Science Committee. Recently, and it has +probably been two years, maybe two-and-a-half years ago, a +tragic event occurred down in southeast Texas when a dentist +was launching a boat I think in Galveston Bay and fell, scraped +his leg and it got infected by an organism called Vibrio +vulnificus. It is a bacteria. Lumped in together with other +organisms, we consider it to be harmful algal bloom organisms +and he died from that infection within about seven or eight +days. + With respect to our water monitoring programs, are coastal +waters monitored year round or are the monitoring programs +restricted to particular times of the year, fishing seasons, +peak recreation seasons when people are swimming? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. A lot of those monitoring +systems are operated or connected to an EPA network, and I am +really not the right guy to tell you exactly how that goes. But +we, in NOAA, worry continuously about the health generally of +harmful algal blooms and potentially other life-threatening +organisms that live in the water. So we use satellites to help +monitor the color, we have used our radars and our weather +information, and we actually now put out harmful algal bloom +forecasts for the Gulf of Mexico, for Florida, and we are +looking to move that into the Texas area in this next year. We +believe it is a very important area. There is $9 million for +harmful algal blooms in our request, and we look to expand our +ability to provide early warning and actually try to in the +future pinpoint where they come from and do something to help +mitigate them. + Chairman Lampson. It would be hugely---- + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Very important. + Chairman Lampson. A life-threatening situation. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. It goes to what Dr. Pietrafesa +mentioned about health and the atmosphere and the ocean. They +are directly related. + Chairman Lampson. Very good. I will recognize Mr. Hall, the +Ranking Member on the Science Committee. My friend from Texas. + Mr. Hall. That is the way it is when you are in the +minority, nothing works. + Chairman Lampson. I knew that. I knew all about that. + + New Programs + + Mr. Hall. I thank you for working with us last year on the +National Integrated Drought Information System Act. The NIDIS +program authorized by that law is going to lessen the economic +and environmental devastation caused by drought by equipping +our farmers and water resource managers with the tools they +need to prepare for and respond to drought situations. With +improved monitoring and forecasting, our economy is going to be +spared what we think to be billions of dollars in drought- +related damages every day. NIDIS was a result of a close +collaboration between NOAA and university scientists and State +and natural resource managers. It is an excellent example how +small investment in environmental monitoring and prediction, I +think it is around $4 million in your fiscal year 2008 budget +request, can have an enormous benefit to the Nation. + Do you have similar programs in the pipeline that would +address other pressing needs? If so, describe a few of them. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. First of all, let me thank you +for your help and your work in passing the NIDIS bill. It was +extremely valuable to us because we have been working with the +western governors for a number of years on trying to build the +kind of a program that would be very useful for the Federal +Government and the States. We also have worked hard locally +with air quality monitoring. + Air quality is very important. We now have been able to +provide air quality forecasting for the whole country, and that +began in the similar partnerships with our research +universities, with support from this committee, and work with +the EPA and local jurisdictions. We are working from ozone +forecasts now into particulate forecasts, or aerosols. That is +very important for asthma and other types of respiratory issues +that people have. It will also help us manage our air quality +in various places because we will be able to tell where it is +coming from, where it is going, and what the concentrations +might be. So air quality is very important to us. + I mentioned the harmful algal bloom issue, looking at +health along our coasts. We have, for the first time, the +Administration did put some money in the Human Health +Initiative for oceans which the Congress has been a strong +supporter of and we look forward to working with Congress this +year with that program. + We are looking at improving our ability to monitor +wildfires and provide better information to the people who +fight those fires. We are looking at a better carbon network, +and we just put something called a carbon tracker on our +website built out in Boulder which will allow everyone to take +a look at where is the carbon in our air. It is experimental. +We haven't got a full network yet, but we are building the +tools to help provide information to individual citizens as +well as policy-makers. + So those are a few of the things we are working on, sir. + Mr. Hall. I am sure they help you in monitoring and +forecasting and helping to plan that can really be meaningful. +We went through just a terrible drought there in East Texas +this last time, the worst certainly in my memory and my memory +is longer than anybody's in here. We were very pleased to +finally get this bill through, finally to get the President to +sign it. The one farmer called me and said, ``Well, now, can +you make it rain?'' This bill does everything short of that, +but it plans for it. + You know, no woman in here and very few of you men remember +the '30s, but in the '30s during the--from '30 to '40, I was a +paperboy and I delivered papers. But I read my papers, and I +read about the weather. It seemed like I was always concerned +about the weather. I watched radio then a lot. I watched WRR +radio, it was all we had. But we had a professor on there, I +think Dr. Archer, but I am not sure what his name was; but he +would tell us what the weather was every day because he had a +new breakthrough. He had, of all things and nobody else in the +world I guess had one, a sling cyclometer. And man, that was up +to date. And he would say what the weather was going to be at +6:00 every morning. I would be back in after delivering my +papers, and I would watch him on radio. And I would listen to +him. And there was a guy up in Paris, Texas, about 80 miles on +up northeast or 60 miles, something like that, he would listen +to him and predict just the opposite every year, and he was +right about 80 percent of the time. + So I don't know if getting all this equipment is good or +bad, but it is great to have that information and it is great +to see the years ahead and see how much it is going to benefit +them. And I thank both of you for your work and your report and +for being here today, and I thank this Chairman for calling +this meeting. I yield back. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. Thank you, sir. + Mr. Hall. I don't have to turn it off. + + Hurricane Forecasting + + Chairman Lampson. Thank you, Mr. Hall. It is always a +pleasure. I certainly did not mean to slight you along the way, +Dr. Pietrafesa, with all my questions seem to be going to +Admiral Lautenbacher. But I certainly appreciate both of you +participating, and I did have a question about the role that +NOAA's National Hurricane Center played that I would like to +ask of you. Obviously it has played a critical role during the +devastating '05 hurricane season, but how can hurricane +forecasting be improved to better warn the public of such +disasters? Obviously it is not going to be that piece of +equipment that Mr. Hall was just referring to, but can we make +it better and is the budget adequate to achieve the +improvements in hurricane forecasting that we would all like to +see happen? + Dr. Pietrafesa. I do not think the budget is adequate, but +NOAA, I would have to compliment the agency and the Admiral for +the efforts that the agency has put forward. For example, the +new P3 that is coming on line will allow another degree of +freedom in terms of being able to make more measurements. It +turns out the stepped microwave frequency sensor that has been +deployed over the last year or last several hurricane seasons +has shown that the winds that are blowing just above the +surface of the ocean are in fact very different than the winds +aloft. And those winds are the winds that are actually driving +the wave field and also driving the surface currents. And if +one is going to do an adequate job well in advance four to +three to two days to one day out of a hurricane making +landfall, one really must know what the wind field is like and +the wave field that it is driving along with the current field. +And you have to know not only the speeds and directions of the +wind, but you have to understand the asymmetries that are built +into each one of these vortices, these hurricane vortexes. +There is no symmetric hurricane. They are antisymmetric which +means that they have a very unusual configuration around their +eye and beyond where the radius of maximum winds occurs. And +that is an advance that has occurred through NOAA efforts. + Now, that data then needs to be assimilated into the +hurricane weather research forecast model and into the surge +and inundation and flood models that ensue. So that is an +activity that NOAA is moving towards, but once again, we +believe that they are undercapitalized in that area. The +observing network that is out there, once again, NOAA is +building out. It is still in the process of building that +system out, but that system has to be more complicated than it +was in the past. We now understand that the water and the air, +the atmosphere and the ocean and the gulf waters and the loop +current and the eddies that are shed, the warm core rings, and +on the east coast of the United States it is the filaments, the +Gulf Stream filaments, those systems exchange heat, mass, and +momentum, between the two. They are interactively coupled in +real time. For example, Katrina went through nine stages of +change. She went from a zero to a one up to a five and back +down to a three when she finally beached herself. + So if you are an emergency manager or if you are in charge +of evacuating folks, the models now are capable of actually +getting down to resolution of 100 feet special resolution on +land in terms of where and when the inundation is going to +occur; but if you don't have the forcing, the wind fields, +correct and you don't know that that event is going to de- +intensify, you are going to get it wrong. You know, if you are +going to evacuate areas and put everybody on the highway at the +same time going in one direction, and you have got four lanes +and you have to station highway patrol at the on and off ramps +to make sure that nobody is getting on in the wrong direction, +you have to have the best information possible, and NOAA can +provide that but not yet. + So the mathematical architectures are there, the new +hurricane weather research forecast model is there, the +interactive coupling with the ocean system models has advanced +to the point where we are actually running one in my own shop. +But it requires more investment and research, and so the short +answer is NOAA is still undercapitalized in this area, but it +is moving in that direction. + Chairman Lampson. Excellent. I think those are more +examples of just how we do get a return on the monies that we +do invest. I think it is critically important that we push +ourselves to make those things happen. + I know what kind of money was expended in life just in +evacuating some towns that ultimately didn't have to evacuate. +Probably the people who were best off were those who got +frustrated, unfortunately, and went back home and sat the storm +out. But then that is the wrong message to send to other +people. Many stories that we have read about people who +couldn't make the trip from wherever they started to wherever +they were going ended up dying in the process or at the end of +it and very tragically so. + So it is a great opportunity for us to push as hard as we +can possibly push to make some of these things happen when we +know that the technology exists. + Mr. Diaz-Balart, you have been awfully quiet over there. +Can we impose upon you for some words of wisdom or questions? +Push it and it will come on. Now try. + Mr. Diaz-Balart. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Actually, I was +going to follow up on your question, Mr. Chairman. Doctor, you +gave a very good explanation. I represent parts of Miami and +Dade County and parts of Collier, so the ratings for the +National Hurricane Center broadcast during hurricane season in +the part of the State that I represent far exceed the NFL's. It +is the thing to watch. There has been incredible progress on +the accuracy of where a hurricane is going to strike. But as +far as the strength of the hurricane, obviously, that is where +we have some weakness. + Doctor, when you were giving this explanation, how far are +we? We have the same type of really significant advances in the +ability to track where a hurricane is going to land, and the +advances there have been just incredible. How far are we to be +able to really be able to forecast, you know, the strength of a +hurricane when it is going to land? Is it just a funding issue, +is it a technology issue, is it a little bit of both? + Dr. Pietrafesa. It is both. As I said, the new stepped +microwave system is really an important new technological +advance that has been introduced into the capabilities area, +and NOAA is now flying that in real time. + Mr. Diaz-Balart. I know it is not a fair question but is +there a---- + Dr. Pietrafesa. Well---- + Mr. Diaz-Balart. Can we say within two years, five years we +are going to have--is there any way to do that, any guess? + Dr. Pietrafesa. Yeah, actually the NOAA Science Advisory +Board actually put together at the request of the Admiral an +external review panel that looked into that issue specifically +about could we make advances in hurricane intensity +forecasting, and what kind of time period are we looking at. +And we are looking at a five-year period of time with +significant investments in that area. You know, it is a half- +decade. The mathematical tools are on the shelf. But it takes +people once again and it takes putting together partnerships, +both from NOAA itself, from within the agency, and from without +the agency. So you have got to join the expertise. You have got +to leverage the expertise of the academic community that is +external to the agency. And it turns out there are not a lot of +hurricane modelers and hurricane technologists in the United +States. It is a very small community of scientists and +engineers. But they are capable and are willing to work +together to create this capability and really looking at the +order of a half-decade which is a very short time. But it is +going to take, you know, the several tens of millions of +dollars per year of investment to get this done. + Mr. Diaz-Balart. Also, Mr. Chairman, on a separate note I +represent, as you know, the Everglades; so with all due +respect, my mosquitoes are bigger than yours. + + More on Insufficient Funding + + Chairman Lampson. I don't know if I would know the +difference. I have been chewed on by them too many times in my +lifetime. Even Mr. Hall can remember some big mosquitoes in +East Texas. Last question I will ask, unless others have some +desire to wrap up, the impact of NOAA's tight budget. It has +got to have some impact on the ability to fund both extramural +research and to do some of the in-house research that is +necessary to really do the kinds of things that are necessary. + Would you comment on the impact of that, Dr. Pietrafesa? + Dr. Pietrafesa. Well, given NOAA's present budget from the +perspective of the external community, NOAA is doing the best +job it can to maintain the services that it provides presently. +But in the face of, you know, increases in salaries and having +to pay for turning lights on and off, you know, it is really +stretched. And so we understand that when push comes to shove, +it is the external activities that are most likely to be cut. +So while we understand that, it is difficult for us to accept +that, the external community, because if you look at the +leveraged assets, both intellectual and physical assets that +the external community brings to the table, there is an +enormous amount of people power and intellectual power and +compute power and technological power that the external +community brings to the table. And the external community has +got a long and rich tradition of partnering with the agency +which has, in fact, led to many of the advances from research +to operations to applications that we have experienced. + But in fact when the Weather Forecast Office at the +Raleigh/Durham Airport--I come from Raleigh, North Carolina-- +was moved to the NC State Campus, within two years, NOAA +headquarters gave that Weather Forecast Office an award called +a NOAA Unit Citation Award; and that Citation Award recognizes +outstanding research and then transitioned from creating new +research tools to moving them to new operational forecast +tools. Papers were published, papers were given at conferences, +but the point was that the forecasts that were emanating from +that office improved so dramatically that NOAA headquarters +gave that forecast office this award. And that is an award for +advances for research and operations which is very unusual. It +was the first forecast office to ever receive that award. + It shows what can be done if you put NOAA scientists and +staff together with the external community and you leverage the +assets. You challenge the external community, you become +engaged, you engage them in interesting problems, and you bring +students to the table. And in fact, that ensures that NOAA will +have the workforce that it is going to need for the future when +you engage students. And that is one issue we are seriously +concerned about is that when external funds are cut, the first +to go are the students. And so you compromise the future of +this agency, the scientific and technological excellence of the +agency because the workforce that could become engaged, that +would become engaged is lost. And so that is a serious issue. + Chairman Lampson. Thank you. Mr. Hall. + + Water Conservation + + Mr. Hall. I want to talk about the future and conservation, +and this may be wild and crazy but it has been something that +has been on my mind for a long time and maybe you could give us +some advice on it or guidance. But we have to start conserving +our water. If we are not going to get the rain as we predict +them or as we expect them where over the last 50 years or +something. How unreasonable is it to think that we ought to be +studying, create some kind of a study today, maybe not a paid +study but a study of maybe two people from your agency, two +from some other, that would be unpaid that would meet maybe +four times a year or quarterly to talk about the future; and I +am thinking in terms of--Texas is a typical State, I guess. +Every state has its own variances of mountains and hills and +tributaries and all that. But Texas has mountains that get +water. It goes down, trickles down, gets finally to one of the +tributaries and then to the ocean and washes away. How +unreasonable is it to think in terms of one day, when I say +this as a good bottle of water costs as much as a good bottle +of beer now and you got to go to really thinking about the +value of water, but how unreasonable is it to have a million- +dollar subterranean tanks in the desert at the foot of the +hills or in strategic places to capture this water and not let +it go all the way down to the sea? Too expensive now to do it +but there was a time when it was too expensive to put an escape +module in the NASA vehicle, but we are going to put one in +there now with the deaths and the losses we have. If we have a +different day and time and the rains come at a different time +or they don't come or they do come but not with more time +between them, why not capture that water and keep it? Think +about it and have somebody study it, and I won't be here and +none of us in this room will be here when you will ever need +something like that; but someone is going to be here to think +in terms of studying and maybe have huge underground tanks to +collect that water and not let it go off to the sea. How +impractical is that? + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. I agree---- + Mr. Hall. I don't want to get put away for recommending +something like that or people getting a net after me. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. I would have to go with you if +you got put away because I think you are right on. + Mr. Hall. But somebody ought to be studying that. + Vice Admiral Lautenbacher. And I agree. I asked my staff +when I took over to give me their top 10 problems for the +environment for the future. Forget what we do, forget our +budget, tell me what are problems are. And when I tabulated +that, water. And so that is why we have in NOAA now, weather +and water. Water is one of our four major themes, and we are +trying to work the problem you talked about, the watershed +management down to the ocean. How do we deal with that? And my +crazy idea is that we are going to need a water distribution +system at some point. So that would include tanks, it would +include pipes, it would include pumps. I mean, we are going to +need water. I agree with you, and I think we all need to start +thinking about the future and how we deal with water. It is a +precious commodity. + Mr. Hall. I have even thought about it at my home. I put a +2,000 gallon tank at the back of my home at the end of my +series of garages there, and you would be surprised at how much +water comes off of your roof. It goes into that tank, and then +for the swimming pool in front, I have a 450-gallon tank, it +catches it. It will save about $100 a month there with filling +it up with evaporation things for the pool. It makes sense, and +I think some day everybody will have that. + I had a little guy come out from the city about three weeks +ago. I was watering on a day when it wasn't my day to water, +and that is kind of embarrassing, you know. But one of my +neighbors, and I got a few Democratic neighbors there that will +call in on me every now and then; and you know, my wife and I +are fighting too loud or we are having arguments or something. +But I was watering out there on Friday, and that guy's calendar +said it was Monday, you know. And he came up to me and said, +``Congressman, I sure hate to come out there;'' and I said, +``Well, what is the problem?'' He said, ``Well, you are not +supposed to be watering.'' I said, ``Well, I think I have a +right to be watering.'' He said, ``Congressman, you don't have +a right to be watering, and my dad is going to kill me if I +have to give you a ticket.'' Anyway, he went on and on like +that a little bit. Pretty soon I said, ``I tell you I am +different than other people.'' He said, ``Congressman, you are +not any different to us, now. You are just Ralph Hall down here +but you have to comply the same rules that everybody else +does.'' I said, ``Well, here.'' I handed him my hose. He +wouldn't take it. And I made him take it, and I said, ``Now, +come on, follow this hose.'' He followed it back around the +house and got up to the tank there where it was my tank, my +water that I was watering with. He said, ``God, I was never so +glad to see anything. I thought I was going to have to go home +and tell my dad I had given you a ticket.'' + I think everybody is going to--I am thinking about going +into that business of putting those in and let people pay them +out. The Chairman and I may put that together. + Chairman Lampson. Is that---- + Mr. Hall. Need a bunch of money, but I have got the idea, +he ought to furnish the money for it. + Chairman Lampson. Would that be considered new technology? + Mr. Hall. Well, not terribly new but it makes sense and +keeps you from getting a ticket, too. I probably would have +been watering whether it was my day or not. + Dr. Pietrafesa. Mr. Hall, you raise a very interesting +point. You are a man of deep wisdom. Of every quart of water on +this planet, if you just take all the water on this planet and +fit it into a quart, there are only four drops of that water +that is available for our use, fresh water, only four drops. +And of those four drops, only one is available on land, on the +surface of land. So that is how precious that supply of water +actually is. So you know, if you would use that analogy. So you +have really hit on a key, key issue, availability of fresh +water in the future. So we must manage our water resources, you +know, in a very, very careful way. + So when we alter the environment and we pave the natural +environment, particularly the coastal environment over, and we +go from having a system that can absorb the water at a 100 +percent level and retain the fresh water as fresh water lenses +under the Barrier Island, and we allow it then--once we pave it +over, we go from a 100 percent capability of retaining the +water to down to a five percent. And we give it up, and we +shouldn't do that. We need to have better management of our +water systems, our coastal systems and our land-based systems, +and we must pay more attention to the availability of fresh +water. + Mr. Hall. The Chairman and I may set up a study for +something, to look at it and study it for a while and then +maybe get some people from different agencies that would give +some times quarterly to start a plan and start thinking in +terms of that because I think it is important. + I yield back my time. Thank you. + Chairman Lampson. Thank you, Mr. Hall. I think it is +tremendous. And I remember as a kid the cistern that was at my +grandparents' house, and I know that my grandmother would never +wash her hair with anything other than rainwater that had been +captured. + Mr. Hall. You know, out front there we had that same +cistern. We had a stock tied around the faucet there. That was +to catch the wiggle worms that came through there. And we +finally wised up and just poured a little coal oil on top and +that killed the mosquitoes when they laid the eggs. So we were +innovative even back in 1910. + Chairman Lampson. Well, see, there we could be. Thank you. +I think this has been fascinating. Thank you both for coming to +us today, and before I close I want to say that obviously your +testimonies have been very thoughtful and insightful and most +helpful. + If there is no objection, the record will remain open for +additional statements from Members and for answers to any +follow-up questions the Committee may ask of the witnesses. + Without objection, it is so ordered. This hearing is now +adjourned. Thank you all. + [Whereupon, at 3:48 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.] + Appendix 1: + + ---------- + + + Answers to Post-Hearing Questions + + + + + Answers to Post-Hearing Questions +Responses by Vice Admiral Conrad Lautenbacher, Jr. (U.S. Navy, Ret.), + Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and NOAA + Administrator, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, + U.S. Department of Commerce + +Questions submitted by Chairman Nick Lampson + +Q1. There are increasingly problems associated with harmful algal +blooms (HABs) in our coastal areas including more events of greater +duration and intensity. In the FY 2008 budget, the Administration's +requested funding for this program is less than current appropriated +levels. What specific activities that are now funded will be eliminated +if the HAB program is funded at the requested level? + +A1. The President's FY 2008 budget provides approximately $8.9M on +research related to harmful algal blooms (HABs) and hypoxia. This $8.9M +provides the tools necessary for managers to respond and predict HAB +and hypoxia events such as those affecting the New England, Florida, +Pacific NW and California coasts as well as the Great Lakes every year. +HAB and hypoxia events threaten human health, kill marine animals, +impact fisheries, and cost millions of dollars each year. + In addition, the FY 2008 President's budget provides $20M for near- +term priorities projects included in the report Charting the Course for +Ocean Science in the United States in the Next Decade: An Ocean +Research Priorities Plan and Implementation Strategy. These funds will +be used in part to develop in situ sensors for rapid detection of +pathogens, harmful algae and their toxins in coastal areas. Also, an +increase is requested for Gulf of Mexico Partnerships. This funding may +be used to support coastal communities in their efforts to address +harmful algal blooms and hypoxia events through competitive grants. + +Q2. NASA develops sensors that generate new data streams that NOAA +begins to incorporate into their operational missions. Some of the +current examples of NASA satellites that are improving our forecasting +abilities are the Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission (TRMM) and the +Quick Scatterometer (QuickSCAT) satellite used in tropical storm +forecasting. However, there is still a serious problem providing a +smooth transition from research to operations for instrumentation that +proves useful in improving weather forecasting and climate monitoring. +What is being done to address this problem? + +A2. NOAA and NASA have a long history of collaborating on Earth +observation systems. Many of the sensors that fly on NOAA's +geostationary and polar-orbiting operational environmental satellites +are based on technology developed by NASA to satisfy NOAA operational +requirements. + NASA and NOAA mission coordination was further strengthened with +the December 2005 formation of the NASA-NOAA Joint Working Group on +Research and Operations (JWG). This team, formed in response to Section +306(a) of the NASA Authorization Act of 2005, provides strategic +oversight of NASA-NOAA collaborative activities and facilitates the +formation of specific mission transition teams. + NOAA and NASA have other collaborative interactions such as: + + NASA-NOAA Executive Roundtable: At the Executive + level, a program of conducting ``Roundtable'' meetings has been + reinstituted. These meetings are jointly led by the NOAA + Assistant Administrator for Satellite and Information Services + and the Director of the NASA Earth Science Division. + + Program Management Councils: Both NASA and NOAA have + executive-level Program Management Councils (PMCs). These + councils provide a regular forum for senior management review + of major satellite development activities. NOAA has formally + included NASA as members of its Program Management Council. + NASA has similarly asked senior NOAA individuals to participate + in relevant NASA Program Management Council meetings. + + Data Assimilation: NOAA and NASA currently + collaborate on algorithm development commensurate with hardware + development through the Joint Center for Satellite Data + Assimilation. + + Staff Rotations: Ongoing coordination between NASA + and NOAA is being facilitated by the exchange of staff. + + NOAA acknowledges the value of collaboration with NASA, to more +efficiently transition appropriate research capabilities into +operations. NOAA has requested the National Academy of Sciences to +provide additional scientific recommendations on how best to approach +this issue, in response to the February 2007 report from the National +Academy of Sciences' National Research Council entitled ``Earth Science +and Applications from Space: National Imperatives for the next Decade +and Beyond.'' + +Question submitted by Representative Brian Baird + +Q1. Please provide the proportion of full time equivalents (FTEs) +devoted to permitting at the National Marine Fisheries Service for the +proposed FY 2008 budget, as well as for the previous four years. + +A1. National Marine Fisheries Service issues many different types of +permits (e.g., commercial fishing, MMPA, ESA) from offices around the +country. Within NFMS there is not a specific group of employees that +exclusively issues permits. Of those employees working to issue +permits, that task only represents a portion of their time and job +responsibilities, making explicitly answering this question difficult. +NMFS may be better able to address this question regarding a specific +type of permit, please let us know. + +Questions submitted by Representative Bob Inglis + +Q1. Your budget request includes an increase of $2 million for +research to improve predictions of hurricane intensity. What type of +work will that money support? When could we expect to see that research +translate into changes in operational hurricane forecasting and +warnings? In the past, NOAA has had a hard time translating research +findings into operational advances. Does NOAA have a plan for using the +results of this research effort to improve operational hurricane +forecast products? + +A1. In the past 10 years NOAA has made major strides in improving +(reducing) its hurricane track forecast errors--but has made less +progress in improving its hurricane intensity and related inundation +forecast skill. The $2.0M increase will be used to support research +aimed at improving NOAA's ability to forecast hurricane intensity and +provide better information for emergency managers and the public. +Specifically, the money will be used to research physics of intensity +change in tropical cyclones, flux and sea spray, and to develop +applications for tropical cyclone forecasting. + NOAA is committed to maximizing the value of its research and +ensuring successful transition of research to application. We have +taken and continue to take steps to ensure the bridge between research +and operations is appropriately identified and resourced. This +commitment is demonstrated by NOAA's adoption of a Transition of +Research to Application policy and implementation procedures, the +development of an inter-agency Tropical Cyclone Research Plan +(www.ofcm.gov), and a Hurricane and Related Inundation Plan. NOAA +research is annually reviewed to assess readiness for transition. A +Joint Hurricane Testbed already in place at the National Weather +Service's National Hurricane Center evaluates competitively chosen +candidate technology of deemed value to hurricane forecasting. After +research produces results, NOAA's process for transitioning them into +forecast operations requires multiple steps to ensure the value and +quality of changes. This usually takes a minimum of two years. + Examples of NOAA research successfully transitioned into forecast +operations include a statistical-dynamical intensity model, Rapid +Intensification Index statistical models for the Atlantic and Northeast +Pacific, improvements to the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory +model that significantly increased its track and intensity forecast +skill, and radiometrically-derived surface wind speed data (i.e., the +Stepped Frequency Microwave Radiometer) taken from hurricane hunter +aircraft. + Answers to Post-Hearing Questions +Responses by Len Pietrafesa, Associate Dean, Office of External + Affairs; Professor of Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences, College + of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, North Carolina State + University + +Questions submitted by Chairman Nick Lampson + +Q1. In your testimony you describe the Friends of NOAA coalition as +comprised of a diverse group of organizations that all benefit from +NOAA's products and services. The coalition is relatively recent in its +formation. Please provide a few examples to illustrate the breadth of +membership in the coalition with a few examples of the services and +applications of NOAA's work that are important to this community. What +do the diversity of the coalition and the NOAA services they utilize +tell us about the future workforce the agency needs to provide these +services? + +A1. The Friends of NOAA Coalition was formed in 2006 in an effort to +bring together a cross section of the diverse communities supported and +benefited by the products, services and resources provided by the +National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The coalition's +purpose is to inform policy-makers about the importance of NOAA to the +health and well-being of this nation on a variety of levels. Today, +this ad hoc coalition consists of over 40 different organizations +including the Shipbuilders Council of America, the Consortium for +Oceanographic Research and Education, the Reinsurance Association of +America, the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation, the Joint Ocean +Commission Initiative, the Alliance for Earth Observations, the +University Corporation for Atmospheric Research, the National +Association of Marine Laboratories, the Red Cross and The Weather +Channel. A complete list of members of the coalition can be found at +its website: http://www.friendsofnoaa.org. + Let me provide a few examples that demonstrate the value of NOAA's +outcomes that ultimately benefit the Nation and its citizens. The data +and forecasts provided by the National Weather Service provide +lifesaving information to assist State and local officials prepare for +and respond to severe weather events such as tornadoes and hurricanes. +Hundreds of thousands of residents of the gulf coast are alive today +due to the accuracy of the NOAA's National Weather Service forecast for +Hurricane Katrina. This forecast was based on the transitioned results +of prior research conducted over several decades. For NOAA to continue +to develop ever more precise and accurate life saving forecasts will +require a strong and continuing investment in the Nation's weather +enterprise, which includes among other issues: applied research; +technology development; high performance computing; applications; and +education and training, including public education and outreach. + According to the Department of Commerce, preliminary estimates of +the potential economic benefits from new investments in regional +coastal ocean observing systems in U.S. waters are in the billions per +year, estimated largely in terms of increased economic activity and +social surplus realized as a result of improved information about +coastal marine conditions. Albeit, it is my opinion that more and +better observations of both the atmosphere and the coastal ocean at +every observing site will greatly improve weather forecasts not only +over the coastal ocean but also over land. For example, the forecasts +of the spawning or further intensification of extra-tropical cyclones, +also known as nor'easters, and the amounts and types of precipitation, +could be greatly improved by the availability of air-sea data from a +more ambitious observing network along the eastern seaboard from +Charleston to Lewes. The data would be assimilated in real time into +interactively coupled ocean-atmosphere models. How much in savings to +the economy would this advanced capability result in? The savings would +likely be in the many tens of billions per year as commerce and +transportation and other societal benefits are derived. Both NOAA and +its regional coastal partners are heavily invested in the continued +development of this network of coastal observing systems that will, +over time, contribute enormous economic benefits and better information +to mitigate against the loss of lives and property. + Finally, the kinds of data, forecasts, and environmental +predictions provided by NOAA such as long-term weather forecasts and +regional climate change projections--are of vital importance to the +insurance industry as they routinely assess risk and provide financial +protection against future unplanned events to private citizens, State +and local governments, and industry. + NOAA must continue to provide ever more accurate environmental +information to meet the needs of its stakeholders, such as those in +this coalition. To do so will require the development of an ever more +sophisticated and technically trained workforce, a workforce capable of +integrating a vast and diverse amount of data and information and +turning it into a form that can be readily used and depended upon by +federal, State and local policy officials. + +Ouestions submitted by Representative Bob Inglis + +Q1. In your testimony you state that there is a need for both public +and private support of Earth observations. What would you recommend the +balance should be between publicly and privately funded Earth observing +efforts? What types of observations should be public, what type +private? + +A1. Basic, raw observations of Earth are a ``common good'' that support +many efforts for the public good, including education, research, and +protection of life and property. They also support a great many +industries and commercial efforts. Thus the government has a valid +responsibility to provide these basic observations. More specialized +observations for particular applications could be supported by the +private sector, but they will understandably want to make a profit and +hence will hold the observations proprietary. + In practice, the private sector can perform all of the measurement +functions currently undertaken by the public sector, and in many cases +the private sector can do these more effectively than the public +sector. That said NOAA should take the lead on weather and climate +observations. But private industry might implement the measurements +according to NOAA, for example NWS, criteria and standards; because +industry may be able to make such observations at reduced cost to the +government at no sacrifice in quality (examples of existing practices +include lightning data). Of course, these data that private industry +might collect cannot be proprietary and must be publicly available in +real time. + Improvements in our Earth observing system required to support +higher-resolution modeling and warnings might best be implemented by +public-private consortia for at least two reasons. The public sector +does not have the financial or personnel resources to go it alone, and +those dense/more comprehensive (e.g., finer scale land or coastal ocean +observing networks) will serve many applications apart from public +safety and so should the costs should be shared among the private and +public sectors. + Freeing the public sector from all of the responsibilities of +observations (by including industry) will enable the public sector to +focus greater effort on its core activities (e.g., data assimilation +and nowcasting in support of forecasts, watches and warnings and of +climate). The Oklahoma Mesonet is an example of a very successful +public-private observing network. The coastal areas are ripe with like +opportunities. + Appendix 2: + + ---------- + + + Additional Material for the Record + + + + + Statement of Dr. Braxton C. Davis + Director, Science and Policy Division + Office of Ocean and Coastal Resource Management + South Carolina Dept. of Health + and Environmental Control + Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee: As Director of the +Science and Policy Division of the South Carolina Coastal Zone +Management Program, which is carried out by the Office of Ocean and +Coastal Resource Management in the SC Department of Health and +Environmental Control (SCDHEC-OCRM), I appreciate the opportunity to +provide testimony on the importance of the National Oceanic and +Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in South Carolina. Having formerly +held a research faculty position at the University of South Carolina, I +hope that I can offer some insights on the support that NOAA provides +in both coastal research and coastal management settings. + As you may know, South Carolina's eight coastal counties have a +substantial impact on the economy of the State and the lives of its +citizens. The resident population of the eight coastal counties in 2005 +was approximately one million (nearly a quarter of the State's total). +These counties support over $40 billion in economic output annually. +Tourism and related industries lead the economic markets in coastal +South Carolina, and are supported by significant and accessible natural +resources, including over 150 miles of sandy beaches, 500,000 acres of +salt marsh, and substantial local fisheries. Commercial shipping and +port activities add more than $9.4 billion annually in statewide +personal income. + South Carolina's coastal areas are experiencing rapid population +and economic growth. The Myrtle Beach area experienced a 36.5 percent +population growth in the 1990s and was recently ranked the 13th fastest +growing area in the Nation. In the Charleston region, the population is +expected to grow by almost 50 percent over the next two decades with +the development of 113,000 new homes in planning stages and/or under +construction. Since 1990, Beaufort and Jasper Counties grew at a rate +of 40 and 35 percent, respectively, and are expected to continue to +expand at this pace based on approved developments. Tourism and other +industries along the coast are also expected to increase substantially. + Recognizing the importance of the Nation's coast, in 1972, Congress +enacted the Coastal Zone Management Act (CZMA). The Act establishes a +voluntary federal-State partnership to encourage states to develop and +implement programs to manage their coastal communities and resources in +a comprehensive and balanced manner. The CZMA provides both monetary +and other incentives for participating states. South Carolina entered +into the CZMA partnership thirty years ago when the state enacted the +SC Coastal Zone Management Act of 1977 to establish a comprehensive +program ``to protect and enhance the State's coastal resources by +preserving sensitive and fragile areas while promoting responsible +development in the eight coastal counties of the State.'' + The SCDHEC-OCRM accomplishes this mission through direct regulation +of developments and alterations in marine and intertidal areas of the +coast, including estuaries, marshes and beach/dune systems; and through +certification of other State and federal permits for consistency with +approved coastal policies. The agency also assists local governments +with coastal planning issues and improvement projects. Our new Science +and Policy Division seeks to better integrate coastal science into +management decisions and policies, and works very closely with other +NOAA-funded state partners, including the South Carolina Sea Grant +Consortium, North Inlet-Winyah Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve +(NERR), and the ACE Basin NERR. + +Priority Coastal Management Issues + + To demonstrate how our state and NOAA are working together on +coastal and marine issues, I would like to share with you several on- +the-ground experiences and examples. + Some of the most pressing issues associated with the rapid growth +along South Carolina's coast are the associated impacts on coastal +water quality. As watersheds become increasingly developed, fresh +groundwater supplies are declining, and wastewater and surface runoff +are delivering increased nutrient loads, bacteria, pesticides, +herbicides, and even pharmaceuticals to rivers, estuaries, and near- +shore waters. NOAA plays a key role in our ability to understand, +predict, and respond to these water quality concerns. Our program has +interacted closely with the NOAA Hollings Marine Laboratory (HML) in +Charleston, where tools are developed to protect coastal ecosystems by +understanding environmental indicators and how they relate to human +health issues. For example, HML has examined the impacts of increased +urbanization on water quality in tidal creek systems in SC. In +addition, the NOAA Center for Coastal Environmental Health and +Biomolecular Research (CCEHBR), also based in Charleston, is testing +emerging environmental contaminants in our region, including new +pesticides, herbicides, and pharmaceuticals to predict their effects on +marine life and habitats. + Emerging regional components of the Integrated Ocean Observing +System (the Carolinas Coastal Ocean Observing and Prediction System, +Caro-COOPS; the Coastal Ocean Research and Monitoring Program, CORMP; +and the Southeast Atlantic Coastal Ocean Observing System, SEACOOS), +have also assisted SC researchers and managers in responding to an +unusual water quality event along the Myrtle Beach Grand Strand that +occurred in 2004. By partnering with the NOAA-funded IOOS community in +our state, we now have real-time, continuous monitoring of water +quality conditions at several piers along the Grand Strand, and we are +beginning to understand the conditions that led to an unprecedented, +large-scale fish stranding that year. + South Carolina is also vulnerable to the impacts of major +hurricanes, which have impacted our coast on the order of once every +twelve years. As evidenced by the 2005 hurricane season, these storms +can be devastating in terms of lives lost and economic impacts. As a +researcher with the University of South Carolina, I collaborated with a +research team who, with NOAA funding, worked to develop improved +information products for SC emergency managers based on state-of-the- +art storm surge modeling. These refined model projections for the SC +coast demonstrate that significant flooding will occur even in Category +3 hurricane scenarios, and are now being tied to community +vulnerability studies. Also with NOAA support, our research team +partnered with local Weather Forecast Offices (WFOs) to integrate real- +time offshore observations from our subregional IOOS components with +the latest observations, forecasts, and warnings of the NOAA National +Weather Service (www.weather.gov/carolinascoast). + South Carolina is beginning to view many of the issues facing our +coast through the lens of climate change, given the serious +implications of the potential for an increase in the rate of sea level +rise and changes in our regional climate. NOAA provides data that are +critical to understanding climate variability and change, and the NOAA +Climate Change Program has increased its focus toward providing data +and research support for coastal states seeking to adapt to changing +coastal climates and sea level rise. In South Carolina, the Charleston- +based NOAA Coastal Services Center (CSC) is providing our coastal +management program with critical spatial data and technical support in +our initial efforts to address ongoing and future shoreline changes. We +also appreciate the leadership that NOAA's CSC is providing to enhance +community ``resiliency'' to potential impacts of climate change. + +Research and Information Needs + + In addition to the support described above, we have continuing +science needs related to NOAA's future planned activities. First, a +wide variety of marine and coastal data collection efforts have been +undertaken over the past several decades, but they are sometimes +difficult to discover, access and/or merge for a comprehensive +understanding of environmental health and resource trends. In +attempting to manage the cumulative impacts of often small-scale +developments and alterations, it is critical that state resource +agencies have integrated, synthesis products from NOAA that are easy to +use and clearly define data limitations, changes in methodologies or +scales, and ongoing data gaps. In particular, the ecological histories +of specific coastal areas are often not well documented; and spatial +data such as coastal topography, bathymetry, and habitat maps are at +times disconnected or available at irregular intervals. + In a related matter, it is often difficult to fund and maintain +basic environmental monitoring at appropriate spatial and temporal +scales for resource planning and management. For example, little is +known about short- and long-term water quality trends in near-shore +marine and coastal waters outside the boundaries of our National +Estuarine Research Reserves. Some of the basic questions about the +status and trends of our coastal resources remain difficult to assess. +The development of the Integrated Ocean Observing System promises an +increased density of marine observations, and the potential for +integration and expansion of existing local, State, and federal +monitoring programs, which we feel are equally important. + +NOAA's FY 2008 Budget Proposal + + Sustained and robust funding for NOAA is critical to South +Carolina's coasts. The President's budget requests $3.8 billion, an +increase of $131 million over last year's budget. The budget proposes +increases for numerous programs important to South Carolina and other +states, including regional ocean observing systems, mapping and +charting, implementation of the Ocean Research Priorities Plan, +regional ocean partnerships, and the Coastal and Estuarine Land +Conservation Program. While I applaud this increase in funding, +particularly given these tight fiscal times, the President's budget +still falls short of what Congress appropriates to NOAA each year. The +shortfall puts programs at risk and hampers the ability of current +programs to keep pace with emerging priorities and inflation. + +Conclusion + + State coastal zone management programs play a key role in the +coordination of federal, State, and local activities that affect our +coast. We are striving to leverage existing funds and programs through +new partnerships, but we have considerable and ongoing responsibilities +for managing coastal resources and protecting the public from coastal +storms and other hazards. NOAA currently supports nearly half of +SCDHEC-OCRM's annual operating budget, and this funding, along with the +science and technical support that NOAA provides, is vital to our +coastal program and to those of many other coastal states and +territories. State coastal programs should not be considered as +stakeholders of NOAA--we consider ourselves part of NOAA and look +forward to continued support from Congress for the priority areas +identified in NOAA's FY 2008 budget proposal. + Thank you again for the opportunity to help inform the Committee +about NOAA's vital role is assisting our state in managing natural +resources and reducing the impacts of coastal hazards. I would be happy +to respond to any additional questions that you may have. + + + +