2013_06_27BOS 1 6.72 5.04 Hi,<space>welcome<space>to<space>the<space>Foxborough<space>Board<space>of<space>Selectmen<space>special<space>meeting<space>on<space>June<space>27th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 12.00 8.96 Tonight's<space>meetings<space>was<space>asked<space>for<space>by<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Group<space>to<space>try<space>and<space>work<space>out<space>some<space>insurance<space>situations<space>between<space>the<space>town<space>and<space>them.
2013_06_27BOS 1 21.12 6.96 I'd<space>like<space>to<space>welcome<space>the<space>attorneys<space>in<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Group<space>to<space>come<space>up<space>to<space>the<space>table<space>in<space>front<space>of<space>us,<space>please.
2013_06_27BOS 1 56.88 5.44 Okay,<space>just<space>for<space>the<space>record,<space>when<space>we<space>start<space>we<space>can<space>get<space>on<space>the<space>line<space>for<space>the<space>record<space>your<space>names,<space>please.
2013_06_27BOS 1 62.80 0.72 Thanks,<space>Mark.
2013_06_27BOS 1 63.76 2.24 I'm<space>Dick<space>Gelerman,<space>town<space>counsel.
2013_06_27BOS 1 66.00 1.68 Cindy<space>Meyer,<space>town<space>counsel.
2013_06_27BOS 1 67.68 3.12 John<space>Davis<space>from<space>Pierce<space>Davis<space>&<space>Perritano.
2013_06_27BOS 1 71.60 4.40 Jim<space>Cobery,<space>General<space>Counsel<space>of<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Group,<space>-<space>Ian<space>Murphy,<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Group.
2013_06_27BOS 1 76.40 2.00 And,<space>Dick,<space>would<space>you<space>like<space>to<space>start?
2013_06_27BOS 1 78.64 0.48 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 79.28 0.48 Thank<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 79.76 35.20 So<space>when,<space>when<space>we<space>met<space>with<space>you<space>just<space>two<space>nights<space>ago,<space>just<space>to<space>reiterate<space>the<space>issue,<space>the<space>issue<space>is<space>that<space>the<space>current<space>insurer<space>for<space>the<space>town<space>for<space>law<space>enforcement,<space>the<space>law<space>enforcement<space>policy,<space>has<space>advised<space>the<space>town<space>that<space>as<space>of<space>July<space>1st,<space>the<space>deductible<space>for<space>events<space>that<space>occur<space>under<space>the<space>law<space>enforcement<space>policy<space>is<space>going<space>to<space>go<space>to<space>$50,000.
2013_06_27BOS 1 115.60 9.92 Because<space>of<space>that<space>increase,<space>which<space>the<space>Board<space>has<space>told<space>me<space>they<space>found<space>unacceptable,<space>we're<space>trying<space>to<space>find<space>solutions<space>to<space>that<space>problem.
2013_06_27BOS 1 125.52 4.64 And<space>we've<space>been<space>working<space>with<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Organization<space>on<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 130.48 20.80 What's<space>happened<space>since<space>Tuesday,<space>with<space>regard<space>to<space>Meyer,<space>is<space>we<space>spoke,<space>I<space>spoke<space>with<space>them<space>on<space>yesterday<space>on<space>Wednesday<space>and<space>asked<space>them<space>to,<space>a<space>couple<space>of<space>things:<space>Would<space>they<space>agree<space>to<space>postpone<space>the<space>increase<space>in<space>the<space>deductible<space>from<space>7,500<space>to<space>50,000?
2013_06_27BOS 1 151.28 7.84 Would<space>they<space>agree<space>to<space>postpone<space>that<space>until<space>we<space>had<space>the<space>opportunity<space>to<space>resolve<space>these<space>insurance<space>issues<space>with<space>the<space>stadium?
2013_06_27BOS 1 159.52 2.24 They<space>declined<space>to<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 162.40 25.20 I<space>asked<space>them<space>if<space>they<space>--<space>I<space>asked<space>'em<space>if,<space>asked<space>'em<space>if<space>they<space>would<space>consider<space>imposing<space>the<space>$50,000<space>deductible<space>only<space>for<space>concerts,<space>as<space>opposed<space>to<space>soccer<space>events,<space>on<space>the<space>theory<space>that<space>soccer<space>is<space>relatively<space>benign<space>in<space>terms<space>of<space>crowd<space>behavior.
2013_06_27BOS 1 188.00 1.84 They<space>declined<space>to<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 190.00 10.08 And<space>then<space>with,<space>with<space>John<space>Davis'<space>help,<space>we<space>asked<space>them<space>whether<space>they<space>would<space>consider<space>a<space>prorated<space>premium<space>change<space>to<space>effectively<space>get<space>them<space>to<space>the<space>same<space>place.
2013_06_27BOS 1 200.16 9.12 The<space>proration<space>thinking<space>being<space>that<space>we<space>get<space>this<space>resolved<space>relatively<space>quickly<space>and,<space>therefore,<space>the<space>cost,<space>the<space>net<space>cost<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>go<space>down.
2013_06_27BOS 1 209.36 1.52 They<space>declined<space>to<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 210.96 16.16 But<space>the<space>one<space>bit<space>of<space>good<space>news<space>from<space>Meyer,<space>that<space>came<space>in<space>a<space>phone<space>call<space>copied<space>by<space>email<space>today<space>is<space>that<space>the<space>$50,000<space>deductible<space>is<space>applicable<space>only<space>to<space>stadium<space>events,<space>it's<space>not<space>applicable<space>town-wide.
2013_06_27BOS 1 227.12 12.40 So,<space>that's<space>where<space>we<space>are<space>today<space>with<space>MIA.<space>Attorney<space>Cobery<space>and<space>I<space>have<space>had<space>more<space>conversations<space>with<space>one<space>another<space>today<space>and<space>yesterday<space>than<space>either<space>of<space>us<space>care<space>for.
2013_06_27BOS 1 239.52 8.96 And<space>I<space>do<space>want<space>to<space>say<space>that<space>he's<space>worked<space>very,<space>very,<space>very<space>diligently<space>to<space>try<space>to<space>help<space>the<space>town<space>resolve<space>this<space>issue.
2013_06_27BOS 1 249.76 14.48 He<space>can<space>tell<space>you<space>later,<space>but<space>if<space>I<space>can<space>steal<space>the<space>thunder,<space>they<space>have<space>been<space>able<space>to<space>think<space>they<space>can<space>get<space>in<space>place<space>actually<space>this<space>new<space>policy<space>before<space>the<space>next<space>event;<space>before<space>July<space>6th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 264.64 3.36 And<space>that's<space>some<space>kind<space>of<space>doing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 268.64 7.76 We've<space>been<space>told<space>by<space>both<space>Meyer<space>and<space>early<space>in<space>talking<space>with<space>Jim<space>that<space>we<space>were<space>really<space>looking<space>at<space>a<space>30<space>to<space>60<space>day<space>timeline.
2013_06_27BOS 1 276.40 5.84 It<space>looks<space>like<space>they've<space>been<space>able<space>to<space>manage<space>that<space>to<space>go<space>down<space>to<space>about<space>ten<space>days.
2013_06_27BOS 1 282.64 2.96 So<space>here's<space>where<space>we<space>are.
2013_06_27BOS 1 286.24 5.52 You<space>don't<space>have<space>an<space>event<space>coming<space>up<space>until<space>July<space>6th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 293.68 13.44 We're<space>going<space>to<space>ask<space>the<space>Board<space>after<space>all<space>of<space>the<space>presentations<space>to<space>consider<space>putting<space>over<space>your<space>decision<space>on<space>conditions<space>of<space>the<space>license<space>until<space>July<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 307.36 22.00 We're<space>going<space>to<space>ask<space>the<space>Board<space>to<space>approve,<space>to<space>continue<space>its<space>approval<space>of<space>the<space>licenses<space>as<space>long<space>as<space>you<space>get<space>in<space>place<space>by<space>that<space>date<space>a<space>law<space>enforcement<space>policy<space>that<space>provides<space>the<space>coverage<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>in<space>the<space>form<space>acceptable<space>to<space>you<space>with<space>a<space>deductible<space>acceptable<space>to<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 330.00 3.68 Between<space>now<space>and<space>then<space>there's<space>a<space>lot<space>more<space>work<space>to<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 334.08 1.76 And<space>we've<space>been<space>working<space>very<space>hard<space>on<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 335.92 12.08 Cindy's<space>been<space>working<space>both<space>days,<space>drafting<space>agreements,<space>drafting<space>motions,<space>dealing<space>with<space>Meyer<space>as<space>I<space>have<space>with<space>Jim<space>Cobery.
2013_06_27BOS 1 348.00 4.24 So<space>we've<space>all<space>been<space>doing<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>work<space>and<space>we<space>have<space>made<space>some<space>progress.
2013_06_27BOS 1 352.32 1.44 We<space>are<space>not<space>there<space>yet.
2013_06_27BOS 1 355.04 3.44 We're<space>we're<space>further<space>along<space>but<space>we're<space>not<space>there<space>yet.
2013_06_27BOS 1 359.12 9.84 We<space>have<space>drafted<space>and<space>sent<space>to<space>Jim,<space>sent<space>a<space>copy<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>manager,<space>also,<space>a<space>possible<space>agreement<space>that<space>we<space>could<space>work<space>out.
2013_06_27BOS 1 369.20 8.24 That's<space>going<space>to<space>depend<space>--<space>the<space>resolution<space>of<space>this<space>is<space>going<space>to<space>depend<space>--<space>we<space>first<space>have<space>to<space>know<space>what<space>kind<space>of<space>a<space>policy<space>we<space>can<space>get,<space>what<space>it's<space>going<space>to<space>cost.
2013_06_27BOS 1 377.76 7.36 I<space>do<space>think<space>I<space>can<space>represent<space>that<space>that<space>cost<space>--<space>we'll<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>work<space>out<space>the<space>portion<space>of<space>the<space>cost<space>of<space>the<space>premium.
2013_06_27BOS 1 385.28 13.52 I'm<space>not<space>talking<space>about<space>the<space>deductible,<space>now,<space>in<space>a<space>way<space>that's<space>reasonably<space>reflective<space>of<space>what<space>it<space>would<space>cost<space>us<space>on<space>one<space>side<space>of<space>the<space>town,<space>and,<space>secondly,<space>what<space>it<space>would<space>cost<space>us<space>because<space>of<space>the<space>stadium.
2013_06_27BOS 1 400.24 10.64 I<space>don't<space>know<space>the<space>impacts<space>of<space>what<space>the<space>new<space>deductible<space>or<space>what<space>the<space>deductible<space>will<space>be<space>that<space>Jim's<space>going<space>to<space>tell<space>you<space>about.
2013_06_27BOS 1 411.36 20.56 There<space>are<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>moving<space>parts<space>to<space>it<space>that<space>he'll<space>explain,<space>but<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>the<space>impact,<space>once<space>we<space>have<space>in<space>place<space>a<space>policy<space>provided<space>through<space>the<space>stadium's<space>efforts,<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>the<space>impact<space>of<space>what<space>that<space>would<space>be<space>on<space>Meyer,<space>except<space>for<space>certain<space>that<space>that<space>$50,000<space>deductible<space>will<space>go<space>down<space>to<space>75.
2013_06_27BOS 1 431.92 13.92 But<space>we're<space>not<space>to<space>think<space>that<space>the<space>cost<space>of<space>the<space>policy<space>should<space>also<space>go<space>down<space>since<space>they're<space>no<space>longer<space>primary,<space>since<space>they<space>no<space>longer<space>would<space>be<space>providing<space>primary<space>coverage<space>for<space>the<space>town<space>for<space>stadium<space>events.
2013_06_27BOS 1 446.16 3.68 So<space>the<space>net<space>effect<space>cost-wise<space>is<space>hard<space>to<space>calculate<space>at<space>this<space>point.
2013_06_27BOS 1 450.40 3.76 We<space>will<space>get<space>there,<space>but<space>we're<space>just<space>not<space>there<space>tonight.
2013_06_27BOS 1 454.72 2.72 So<space>I<space>guess<space>I'll<space>stop<space>as<space>that<space>introduction.
2013_06_27BOS 1 457.44 5.36 At<space>the<space>end,<space>I<space>will<space>want<space>to<space>get<space>back<space>and<space>talk<space>to<space>you<space>about<space>a<space>motion<space>that<space>we've<space>drafted.
2013_06_27BOS 1 462.80 3.20 And<space>let<space>me<space>say,<space>I<space>know<space>we're<space>all<space>working<space>hard<space>but<space>we're<space>getting<space>paid<space>for<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 466.08 3.04 And<space>here<space>you<space>are<space>two<space>nights<space>out<space>of<space>three.
2013_06_27BOS 1 469.12 1.84 So<space>thank<space>you<space>for<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 470.96 1.44 Cindy,<space>you<space>have<space>anything<space>to<space>add?
2013_06_27BOS 1 472.88 1.84 No,<space>not<space>at<space>the<space>moment,<space>no,<space>Mark.
2013_06_27BOS 1 474.72 0.16 John?
2013_06_27BOS 1 474.96 15.36 No,<space>the<space>only<space>other<space>thing<space>that,<space>and<space>this<space>was,<space>I<space>think<space>Dick<space>alluded<space>to<space>this,<space>but<space>when<space>we<space>realized<space>that<space>there<space>was<space>the<space>issue<space>of<space>that<space>letter<space>that<space>was<space>accomplished<space>the<space>following<space>morning<space>and<space>sent<space>to<space>Mr.<space>Cobery,<space>so<space>that<space>that<space>could<space>be<space>accomplished.
2013_06_27BOS 1 490.40 19.92 And<space>if<space>they<space>can<space>play<space>something<space>within<space>the<space>next<space>ten<space>days,<space>that<space>is<space>a<space>lot<space>more,<space>that's<space>a<space>lot<space>sooner<space>than<space>we<space>were<space>led<space>to<space>believe<space>by<space>other<space>consultants<space>we<space>had<space>spoken<space>to<space>in<space>the<space>past,<space>including<space>Meyer,<space>the<space>other<space>day,<space>when<space>we<space>spoke<space>to<space>Joe<space>Callahan,<space>he<space>thought<space>30<space>days<space>was<space>aggressive.
2013_06_27BOS 1 510.40 2.72 He<space>thought<space>it<space>would<space>take<space>more<space>like<space>60<space>days.
2013_06_27BOS 1 513.20 5.60 So<space>if<space>something<space>can<space>be<space>placed<space>in<space>time<space>for<space>the<space>first<space>event<space>of<space>July,<space>the<space>6th,<space>that'd<space>be<space>great.
2013_06_27BOS 1 519.20 2.24 Jim?
2013_06_27BOS 1 522.08 9.04 If<space>you<space>don't<space>mind,<space>I'd<space>like<space>to<space>set<space>the<space>context<space>of<space>what<space>we're<space>doing<space>here,<space>and<space>what<space>is,<space>hopefully,<space>gonna<space>happen<space>over<space>the<space>next<space>ten<space>days?
2013_06_27BOS 1 531.60 6.48 The<space>context,<space>very<space>briefly,<space>is<space>this<space>all<space>started<space>with<space>the<space>Weldner-Dutton<space>protective<space>custody<space>lawsuit.
2013_06_27BOS 1 538.32 13.44 With<space>that<space>lawsuit,<space>we<space>realized<space>that<space>there<space>were<space>some<space>gaps,<space>some<space>areas<space>that<space>we<space>could<space>improve<space>upon,<space>mutually<space>improve<space>upon<space>our<space>indemnification<space>and<space>the<space>town's<space>insurance<space>program.
2013_06_27BOS 1 552.00 15.36 And<space>we<space>spent,<space>and<space>when<space>I<space>say<space>we<space>Dan,<space>John<space>Davis,<space>Cindy,<space>Dick,<space>and<space>I<space>started<space>working<space>on<space>this<space>back<space>in<space>December<space>and<space>spent<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>time<space>in<space>December,<space>January,<space>February,<space>working<space>out<space>a<space>new<space>form<space>of<space>indemnification<space>agreement,<space>which<space>we<space>were<space>able<space>to<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 567.36 4.56 And<space>so<space>by<space>the<space>end<space>of<space>February,<space>we<space>came<space>to<space>an<space>agreement<space>about<space>a<space>new<space>indemnification.
2013_06_27BOS 1 571.92 2.08 And<space>I<space>think<space>that's<space>a<space>very<space>reasonable<space>document.
2013_06_27BOS 1 574.00 5.76 And<space>I<space>think<space>it<space>does<space>protect<space>all<space>of<space>us<space>much<space>better<space>from<space>situations<space>like<space>the<space>Weldner-Dutton<space>case.
2013_06_27BOS 1 580.00 6.72 When<space>we<space>finished<space>that,<space>we<space>turned<space>our<space>attention<space>to<space>the<space>insurance<space>protocol<space>and<space>what<space>we<space>could<space>do<space>to<space>improve<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 587.20 7.76 And<space>just<space>so<space>you<space>know<space>what<space>we<space>mean<space>by<space>improve<space>that,<space>the<space>current<space>policy<space>is<space>a<space>$7,500<space>per<space>person<space>deductible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 595.04 14.88 And<space>with<space>the<space>Weldner-Dutton<space>case,<space>what<space>happens<space>there<space>is<space>each<space>person<space>who<space>is<space>involved<space>in<space>that<space>case,<space>in<space>the<space>event<space>they<space>prevail,<space>and<space>I<space>don't<space>think<space>they<space>will<space>prevail,<space>but<space>in<space>the<space>event<space>they<space>prevail,<space>they're<space>not<space>likely<space>to<space>get<space>more<space>than<space>$7,500.
2013_06_27BOS 1 610.08 1.28 But<space>there<space>are<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>them.
2013_06_27BOS 1 611.68 3.76 There<space>are<space>potentially<space>thousands<space>of<space>plaintiffs<space>in<space>that<space>case.
2013_06_27BOS 1 615.52 17.04 And<space>so<space>if<space>it<space>is<space>certified<space>as<space>a<space>class<space>and<space>you<space>do<space>get<space>a<space>thousand<space>plus<space>plaintiffs,<space>all<space>establishing<space>damages<space>in<space>the<space>$7,500<space>range,<space>you<space>have<space>a<space>very<space>substantial<space>liability<space>there<space>that's<space>not<space>covered<space>by<space>insurance,<space>that<space>would<space>be<space>part<space>of<space>your<space>existing<space>deductible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 633.20 5.68 And,<space>think<space>we<space>all<space>agree<space>that<space>there<space>should<space>be<space>some<space>room<space>there<space>to<space>improve<space>that<space>coverage.
2013_06_27BOS 1 638.88 7.84 And<space>so<space>starting<space>in<space>early<space>March,<space>we<space>started<space>really<space>working<space>pretty<space>hard<space>to<space>figure<space>out<space>what<space>we<space>could<space>do<space>to<space>improve<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 646.72 4.80 And<space>the<space>first<space>step<space>in<space>the<space>process<space>was<space>to<space>find<space>out<space>if<space>we<space>could<space>improve<space>our<space>insurance<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 651.52 6.80 And<space>so<space>right<space>now,<space>we<space>provide<space>you<space>with<space>additional<space>insured<space>coverage<space>under<space>our<space>general<space>liability<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 658.48 18.96 And<space>what<space>that<space>does,<space>plain<space>and<space>simple,<space>is<space>if<space>you<space>are<space>involved<space>in<space>any<space>type<space>of<space>litigation<space>or<space>claim<space>that<space>is<space>the<space>result<space>of<space>our<space>acts<space>or<space>omission<space>or<space>people<space>that<space>we<space>control's<space>acts<space>or<space>omission,<space>then<space>you<space>would<space>presumably<space>have<space>coverage<space>under<space>our<space>insurance<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 677.92 12.80 What<space>it<space>doesn't<space>do<space>is<space>cover<space>you<space>for<space>acts<space>and<space>omissions<space>that<space>your<space>employees<space>or<space>your<space>agents,<space>people<space>that<space>we<space>don't<space>control<space>would<space>result<space>in<space>liability.
2013_06_27BOS 1 690.80 11.20 And<space>so<space>step<space>number<space>one<space>was<space>to<space>find<space>out<space>if<space>we<space>could<space>change<space>our<space>general<space>liability<space>insurance<space>policy<space>to<space>extend<space>the<space>coverage<space>to<space>include<space>your<space>employees,<space>the<space>police<space>officers,<space>in<space>this<space>case.
2013_06_27BOS 1 702.08 6.40 And<space>our<space>insurance<space>consultant,<space>a<space>gentleman<space>named<space>Mike<space>Norrick,<space>he<space>went<space>ahead<space>and<space>contacted<space>our<space>insurer.
2013_06_27BOS 1 708.64 3.28 And<space>the<space>insurer<space>said,<space>no,<space>that<space>they<space>would<space>not<space>do<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 712.08 2.16 And<space>so<space>we<space>reported<space>that<space>back.
2013_06_27BOS 1 714.40 10.80 And<space>so,<space>and<space>that<space>obviously<space>it<space>was<space>not<space>acceptable,<space>so<space>we<space>started<space>to<space>check<space>with<space>other<space>insurance<space>companies<space>and<space>see<space>if<space>we<space>could<space>change<space>insurers<space>and<space>get<space>a<space>better<space>insurance<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 725.36 4.80 And<space>Mike<space>approached<space>a<space>number<space>of<space>insurance<space>companies,<space>all<space>of<space>whom<space>said<space>basically<space>the<space>same<space>thing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 730.48 1.92 They're<space>not<space>inclined<space>to<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 732.40 10.16 And<space>the<space>reason<space>they're<space>not<space>inclined<space>to<space>do<space>it<space>is<space>because<space>they<space>would<space>be<space>in<space>a<space>situation<space>where<space>they<space>would<space>be<space>insuring<space>some<space>folks'<space>activities,<space>and<space>we<space>have<space>no<space>control<space>over<space>them.
2013_06_27BOS 1 742.72 8.24 And<space>the<space>lack<space>of<space>control<space>was<space>something<space>that<space>they<space>really,<space>all<space>of<space>these<space>insurance<space>companies<space>uniformly<space>had<space>difficulty<space>with.
2013_06_27BOS 1 751.12 5.84 And<space>so<space>that<space>information,<space>I<space>came<space>back<space>to<space>the<space>group<space>and<space>we<space>started<space>talking<space>about<space>other<space>ways<space>of<space>resolving<space>this<space>issue.
2013_06_27BOS 1 757.04 21.52 And<space>so<space>the<space>next<space>approach<space>was<space>for<space>our<space>insurance<space>consultant<space>to<space>try<space>to<space>identify<space>opportunities<space>for<space>a<space>town-purchased<space>law<space>enforcement,<space>professional<space>liability<space>insurance<space>policy,<space>or<space>I'm<space>sorry<space>for<space>us<space>to<space>purchase<space>a<space>law<space>enforcement<space>professional<space>insurance<space>liability,<space>covering<space>the<space>activities<space>of<space>the<space>town<space>police<space>force.
2013_06_27BOS 1 778.64 1.44 And<space>we're<space>not<space>able<space>to<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 780.16 2.08 Same<space>reason:<space>because<space>we<space>don't<space>control<space>them.
2013_06_27BOS 1 782.24 5.92 So<space>we<space>thought<space>about,<space>could<space>we<space>get<space>a<space>separate<space>policy<space>that<space>the<space>town<space>would<space>purchase<space>and<space>we<space>would<space>pay<space>for?
2013_06_27BOS 1 790.00 1.76 We're<space>getting<space>a<space>little<space>warmer<space>with<space>that<space>one.
2013_06_27BOS 1 791.76 8.16 But<space>quite<space>frankly,<space>the<space>insurance<space>companies<space>came<space>back<space>and<space>said<space>they'd<space>prefer<space>to<space>have<space>one<space>policy<space>covering<space>the<space>town<space>as<space>opposed<space>to<space>two<space>policies.
2013_06_27BOS 1 800.48 21.04 If<space>there<space>are<space>two<space>policies,<space>one<space>covering<space>activities<space>at<space>Gillette<space>Stadium<space>and<space>the<space>other<space>covering<space>the<space>rest<space>of<space>the<space>town,<space>the<space>insurers<space>had<space>a<space>concern<space>that<space>there<space>would<space>be<space>what's<space>called<space>"the<space>other<space>insurance<space>clause<space>issue,"<space>where<space>the<space>insurance<space>companies<space>effectively<space>point<space>at<space>each<space>other,<space>and<space>each<space>tries<space>to<space>suggest<space>the<space>other<space>one<space>should<space>really<space>be<space>the<space>primary<space>insurer.
2013_06_27BOS 1 821.60 11.44 So,<space>long<space>story,<space>but<space>we<space>eventually<space>settled<space>on<space>the<space>idea<space>that<space>we<space>would<space>try<space>to<space>find<space>a<space>better<space>alternative<space>to<space>existing<space>via<space>insurance<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 833.04 22.16 And<space>then<space>we<space>would<space>work<space>out<space>some<space>arrangement<space>to<space>allocate<space>the<space>premium<space>associated<space>with<space>that<space>policy<space>and<space>our<space>insurance<space>consultant<space>informally,<space>because<space>we<space>weren't<space>authorized<space>to<space>do<space>anything<space>officially<space>on<space>your<space>behalf,<space>but<space>informally,<space>he<space>went<space>out<space>and<space>contacted<space>insurance<space>companies,<space>and<space>he<space>found<space>three<space>that<space>are<space>active<space>in<space>Massachusetts<space>who<space>were<space>willing<space>to<space>provide<space>that<space>coverage.
2013_06_27BOS 1 855.28 2.24 And<space>they<space>each<space>had<space>a<space>slightly<space>different<space>variant.
2013_06_27BOS 1 857.76 7.12 You<space>all<space>are<space>familiar<space>with<space>insurance<space>and<space>you<space>know<space>there's<space>premiums<space>and<space>deductibles<space>and<space>self-insurance,<space>and<space>every<space>flavor<space>you<space>can<space>possibly<space>imagine.
2013_06_27BOS 1 864.88 7.84 But<space>we<space>found<space>three<space>companies<space>and<space>they<space>were<space>willing<space>to<space>do<space>something,<space>and<space>it<space>seemed<space>like<space>each<space>of<space>them<space>offered<space>something<space>that<space>could<space>be<space>interesting<space>to<space>us<space>collectively.
2013_06_27BOS 1 872.88 8.48 So<space>we<space>spoke<space>with<space>Dick<space>Gelerman<space>and<space>Kevin<space>Pecos<space>and<space>the<space>timeframe<space>of<space>this<space>is<space>roughly<space>April<space>timeframe.
2013_06_27BOS 1 881.36 22.24 And<space>we<space>basically<space>said,<space>hey,<space>if,<space>you<space>can<space>give<space>us<space>a<space>letter<space>that<space>authorizes<space>our<space>consultant,<space>Mike<space>Norrick,<space>to<space>review<space>your<space>loss<space>data,<space>and<space>also<space>to<space>talk<space>officially<space>with<space>these<space>insurance<space>companies,<space>we<space>will<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>get<space>these<space>informal<space>discussions<space>reduced<space>to<space>formal<space>proposals,<space>which<space>we<space>can<space>present<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>manager<space>and<space>whomever<space>else.
2013_06_27BOS 1 903.68 4.64 And<space>then<space>collectively<space>we<space>can<space>decide<space>which<space>insurance<space>product<space>we<space>want<space>to<space>go<space>forward<space>with.
2013_06_27BOS 1 909.12 2.08 We<space>did<space>not<space>receive<space>that<space>letter.
2013_06_27BOS 1 911.68 7.36 We<space>asked<space>for<space>it<space>a<space>number<space>of<space>times,<space>including<space>by<space>email,<space>including<space>in<space>meetings.
2013_06_27BOS 1 919.20 23.44 You<space>know,<space>we<space>had<space>a<space>meeting<space>at<space>town<space>hall<space>in<space>Kevin<space>Pecos'<space>office<space>in<space>mid-May<space>where<space>I<space>emphasized<space>to<space>Kevin<space>that<space>we<space>were<space>six<space>weeks<space>away<space>from<space>what<space>I<space>considered<space>to<space>be<space>a<space>deadline<space>June<space>30th,<space>end<space>of<space>policy<space>deadline,<space>and<space>I<space>really<space>needed<space>the<space>letter<space>to<space>allow<space>us<space>to<space>get<space>the<space>alternatives<space>reduced<space>to<space>writing<space>so<space>we<space>could<space>resolve<space>this<space>issue.
2013_06_27BOS 1 943.04 6.40 I<space>indicated<space>to<space>Kevin<space>at<space>that<space>time,<space>that<space>six<space>weeks<space>was<space>really<space>a<space>pretty<space>short<space>period<space>of<space>time<space>for<space>us<space>to<space>evaluate<space>proposals.
2013_06_27BOS 1 949.60 4.48 First<space>of<space>all,<space>to<space>obtain<space>proposals,<space>then<space>evaluate<space>them<space>and<space>then<space>buying<space>the<space>insurance<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 954.16 4.72 So<space>I<space>was<space>pretty<space>emphatic<space>that<space>we<space>really<space>needed<space>to<space>get<space>something<space>pretty<space>quickly.
2013_06_27BOS 1 958.88 8.00 And<space>at<space>that<space>meeting,<space>Kevin<space>told<space>me<space>that<space>he<space>would,<space>that<space>he<space>understood<space>the<space>deadline,<space>understood<space>how<space>to<space>get<space>the<space>authorization<space>letter.
2013_06_27BOS 1 967.76 3.44 And<space>I<space>thought<space>we<space>were<space>going<space>to<space>receive<space>something<space>very<space>shortly<space>thereafter.
2013_06_27BOS 1 971.68 0.80 We<space>did<space>not.
2013_06_27BOS 1 972.56 3.68 And<space>I<space>reminded<space>him<space>of<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 976.32 3.20 I<space>reminded<space>Dick<space>that<space>I<space>needed<space>to<space>get<space>that<space>letter.
2013_06_27BOS 1 979.68 2.32 I<space>didn't<space>get<space>the<space>letter<space>until<space>yesterday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 982.00 8.24 And<space>I<space>received<space>the<space>letter<space>yesterday<space>because<space>Dick<space>and<space>Cindy<space>and<space>John<space>really<space>put<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>effort<space>into<space>getting<space>the<space>letter<space>for<space>us.
2013_06_27BOS 1 990.32 14.56 And<space>so<space>yesterday<space>was<space>really<space>the<space>first<space>time<space>when<space>we<space>were<space>able<space>to<space>have<space>our<space>insurance<space>consultant<space>go<space>out<space>there<space>and<space>touch<space>the<space>bases<space>and<space>really<space>try<space>to<space>get<space>what<space>we<space>had<space>previously<space>discussed<space>60<space>days<space>ago<space>into<space>a<space>more<space>formal<space>position.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1007.04 1.92 He's<space>working<space>very,<space>very<space>hard<space>on<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1009.04 2.32 As<space>all<space>of<space>us<space>are<space>working<space>very<space>hard<space>on<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1011.60 15.84 Originally<space>this<space>morning,<space>he<space>told<space>me<space>that<space>this<space>was<space>not<space>even<space>possible<space>to<space>do<space>in<space>less<space>than<space>30<space>days;<space>told<space>me<space>I<space>was<space>being<space>too<space>demanding,<space>this<space>was<space>just<space>completely<space>nuts<space>on<space>my<space>part<space>to<space>think<space>that<space>we<space>could<space>make<space>it<space>in<space>time<space>for<space>the<space>Revolution<space>game.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1027.76 29.76 He<space>worked<space>very<space>hard<space>late<space>today<space>he<space>sent<space>me<space>an<space>email<space>and<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>all<space>the<space>details<space>of<space>it<space>yet,<space>but<space>he<space>thinks<space>that<space>he<space>will<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>get<space>some<space>proposals<space>before<space>the<space>4th<space>of<space>July,<space>and<space>that<space>we<space>will<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>present<space>them<space>to<space>you<space>and<space>hopefully<space>get<space>your<space>approval<space>so<space>that<space>we<space>can<space>have<space>a<space>policy<space>bound<space>before<space>the<space>Revolution<space>game,<space>but<space>he<space>--<space>I<space>want<space>to<space>emphasize<space>that<space>it's<space>unfortunate<space>it<space>came<space>down<space>to<space>this<space>last<space>minute<space>crisis.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1057.60 0.88 It<space>really<space>is.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1058.72 5.12 It's<space>not<space>because<space>of<space>the<space>efforts<space>of<space>anyone<space>sitting<space>at<space>this<space>table<space>that<space>it<space>came<space>to<space>this<space>point.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1063.92 8.40 I<space>mean,<space>I<space>think<space>all<space>of<space>us<space>were<space>quite<space>proactive<space>and<space>really<space>mindful<space>of<space>the<space>deadline<space>and<space>trying<space>to<space>make<space>sure<space>that<space>it<space>didn't<space>become<space>a<space>crisis.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1072.56 9.60 I<space>think<space>that<space>all<space>of<space>us,<space>when<space>it<space>became<space>a<space>crisis,<space>really<space>sprang<space>into<space>action<space>and<space>tried<space>to<space>deal<space>with<space>this<space>as<space>professionally<space>as<space>possible,<space>and<space>to<space>get<space>this<space>all<space>resolved.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1082.32 3.60 I<space>wish<space>this<space>were<space>not<space>a<space>crisis<space>to<space>be<space>perfectly<space>frank<space>with<space>all<space>of<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1086.08 3.60 But<space>I<space>think<space>that<space>we<space>are<space>on<space>the<space>cusp<space>of<space>getting<space>it<space>resolved.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1089.92 5.28 It's<space>going<space>to<space>require<space>a<space>little<space>bit<space>of<space>luck<space>and<space>a<space>lot<space>more<space>hard<space>work<space>from<space>this<space>group<space>and<space>from<space>Mike<space>Norrick.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1095.28 2.32 But<space>I'm<space>sincerely<space>hopeful<space>we<space>can<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1097.68 4.32 And<space>that's<space>really<space>the<space>background<space>of<space>what<space>we're<space>doing<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1103.20 1.36 Ian,<space>you<space>have<space>anything<space>to<space>add?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1104.64 0.96 Nothing<space>to<space>add.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1105.84 3.12 Any<space>questions<space>from<space>the<space>Board?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1110.24 6.72 Just<space>so<space>I<space>can<space>look<space>at<space>the<space>schedule,<space>the<space>Revolution<space>--<space>the<space>event<space>on<space>the<space>6th<space>is<space>what,<space>that's<space>the<space>first<space>Revolution<space>game?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1117.04 0.32 Yes.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1117.36 4.56 That's<space>the<space>Saturday,<space>4th<space>of<space>July<space>holiday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1122.40 5.76 It<space>basically<space>comes<space>down<space>to<space>the<space>5th,<space>if<space>we<space>go<space>in<space>the<space>direction<space>of<space>putting<space>this<space>off.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1128.24 9.20 It's<space>just<space>a<space>very,<space>very<space>tight<space>window,<space>just<space>so<space>you<space>can<space>start<space>to<space>think<space>of<space>that<space>in<space>discussing<space>scenarios.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1139.20 2.32 Jenny,<space>anything<space>at<space>this<space>time?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1141.60 0.80 Not<space>right<space>now.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1142.56 0.80 Lorraine?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1144.16 4.56 Just<space>a<space>couple<space>of<space>questions,<space>trying<space>to<space>understand<space>the<space>current<space>insurance<space>set<space>up.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1148.88 6.48 With<space>the<space>law<space>enforcement<space>policy,<space>that's<space>currently<space>part<space>of<space>our<space>existing<space>general<space>liability<space>coverage.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1155.36 0.72 Is<space>that<space>correct?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1156.16 7.12 Yeah,<space>it's<space>out<space>of<space>our<space>general<space>town's<space>M-I-I-A<space>policy,<space>yes<space>-<space>It's<space>a<space>form<space>to<space>the<space>MIA<space>contract,<space>yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1163.28 5.92 Okay,<space>so<space>we<space>have<space>a<space>certain<space>cost<space>to<space>that,<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>right<space>now,<space>correct?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1169.28 1.92 Including<space>the<space>law<space>enforcement<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1171.28 33.92 Yes<space>-<space>Right<space>-<space>So<space>if<space>we<space>were<space>to<space>have<space>that<space>policy<space>rewritten<space>where<space>that<space>is<space>no<space>longer<space>included,<space>I<space>would<space>assume<space>there's<space>some<space>change<space>in<space>the<space>overall<space>cost<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>of<space>that<space>hump<space>of<space>--<space>-<space>Yeah,<space>I<space>think,<space>if<space>it<space>were<space>removed<space>entirely,<space>because<space>you<space>have<space>substitute<space>coverage,<space>I<space>imagine<space>there<space>would<space>be<space>an<space>adjustment<space>in<space>the<space>premium<space>or<space>if<space>it<space>was<space>kept<space>intact,<space>but<space>as<space>sort<space>of<space>an<space>excess<space>law<space>enforcement<space>protection<space>over<space>and<space>above<space>alternative<space>coverage,<space>I<space>would,<space>again,<space>expect<space>to<space>be<space>some<space>sort<space>of<space>an<space>adjustment<space>to<space>the<space>preview.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1205.60 3.36 Okay,<space>so<space>--<space>-<space>And<space>I<space>can't<space>speak<space>for<space>MIA,<space>that's<space>just<space>my<space>--<space>-<space>Right,<space>right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1208.96 13.36 So<space>what<space>I'm<space>trying<space>to<space>figure<space>out<space>is<space>a<space>simple<space>formula<space>for<space>calculating<space>this,<space>because<space>the<space>impact,<space>certainly<space>we've<space>already<space>made<space>it<space>clear,<space>that<space>the<space>$50,000<space>deductible,<space>we<space>can't<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1222.56 17.52 So<space>since<space>we<space>have<space>to<space>go<space>this<space>other<space>route<space>in<space>terms<space>of<space>costs,<space>now,<space>for<space>this<space>new<space>policy,<space>I'm<space>thinking<space>that<space>the<space>Delta<space>in<space>our<space>original<space>policy<space>without,<space>which<space>covered<space>us<space>before,<space>we<space>now<space>have<space>a<space>new<space>cost,<space>whatever<space>the<space>Delta<space>is,<space>subtract<space>that<space>from<space>the<space>new<space>cost.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1240.16 5.52 And<space>I<space>think<space>that's<space>one<space>way<space>of<space>thinking<space>about<space>how<space>to<space>potentially<space>address<space>the<space>cost<space>impact.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1245.68 12.08 Lorraine,<space>if<space>I<space>could,<space>calculating<space>the<space>Delta<space>area<space>is<space>not<space>as<space>simple<space>as<space>taking<space>$50,000<space>and<space>subtracting<space>$7,500.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1258.08 3.44 No,<space>I'm<space>talking<space>about<space>the<space>policy<space>cost,<space>not<space>the<space>deductibles.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1261.52 4.56 Okay,<space>but<space>when<space>you're<space>trying<space>to<space>calc<space>--<space>and<space>I<space>think<space>you're<space>absolutely<space>right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1266.24 0.96 That's<space>the<space>question.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1267.76 1.60 But<space>how<space>do<space>you<space>do<space>the<space>calculation?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1269.60 2.00 You<space>do<space>need<space>to<space>look<space>at<space>the<space>premium<space>costs.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1271.68 3.92 Certainly<space>you<space>need<space>to<space>look<space>at<space>what's<space>the<space>new<space>premium<space>going<space>to<space>cost<space>the<space>town?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1275.68 1.36 What's<space>our<space>portion<space>of<space>it?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1277.36 2.48 What's<space>the<space>savings<space>on<space>the<space>premium?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1280.40 9.44 If<space>Meyer<space>goes<space>from<space>primary<space>to<space>secondary,<space>primary<space>to<space>nothing,<space>those<space>are<space>relatively<space>easy<space>calculations<space>to<space>make.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1290.24 26.80 The<space>harder<space>one<space>for<space>me,<space>at<space>least,<space>and<space>we've<space>talked<space>to<space>the<space>active<space>town<space>manager<space>about<space>trying<space>to<space>get<space>some<space>help<space>on<space>this<space>is<space>how<space>do<space>you<space>calculate<space>the<space>costs<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>from<space>going<space>from<space>a<space>$7,500<space>per<space>plaintiff<space>per<space>claim,<space>where<space>we<space>are<space>now,<space>deductible,<space>to<space>a<space>$50,000<space>per<space>occurrence<space>deductible?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1317.28 1.04 They're<space>different.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1318.56 3.28 The<space>potential<space>impact<space>is<space>hugely<space>different<space>on<space>the<space>town.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1322.00 1.76 How<space>do<space>you<space>factor<space>that<space>in?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1323.84 7.20 And<space>that's<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>issues<space>that<space>we'll<space>certainly<space>have<space>to<space>look<space>at<space>between<space>now<space>and<space>when<space>we<space>see<space>you<space>again<space>on<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1331.84 7.76 But<space>that's<space>an<space>important<space>distinction,<space>Lorraine,<space>going<space>from<space>per<space>claim<space>to<space>per<space>occurrence<space>is<space>a<space>big<space>distinction<space>for<space>the<space>town.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1339.60 3.12 It<space>does<space>limit<space>the<space>overall<space>cost.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1342.80 2.24 Whereas,<space>we<space>don't<space>have<space>that<space>kind<space>of<space>limit,<space>now.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1345.44 23.60 I<space>think,<space>though,<space>what<space>I'm<space>--<space>the<space>point<space>I'm<space>trying<space>to<space>get<space>at<space>is<space>that<space>if<space>there<space>was<space>not,<space>if<space>there<space>were<space>not<space>these<space>stadium<space>issues,<space>and<space>you<space>starting<space>with<space>the<space>Weldner-Dutton<space>case<space>is<space>really<space>what<space>brought<space>all<space>this<space>to<space>light,<space>that<space>the<space>town<space>would<space>never<space>be<space>faced<space>with<space>that<space>$50,000<space>deductible,<space>so<space>--<space>-<space>No,<space>but<space>we<space>have<space>been,<space>and<space>we<space>are<space>faced<space>with<space>a<space>$7,500<space>deductible<space>per<space>plaintiff.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1369.28 0.24 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1369.60 2.32 If<space>it's<space>determined<space>to<space>be<space>a<space>class<space>action<space>suit.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1372.00 15.76 Yeah,<space>well,<space>even<space>if<space>not,<space>in<space>this<space>case<space>it's<space>times<space>four,<space>could<space>easily,<space>without<space>a<space>class<space>action,<space>get<space>to<space>be<space>seven,<space>five,<space>7,500<space>times<space>a<space>much<space>bigger<space>number<space>than<space>four,<space>which<space>isn't<space>the<space>class<space>and<space>do<space>the<space>math.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1387.76 23.28 You<space>only<space>have<space>to,<space>it<space>only<space>has<space>to<space>be<space>seven<space>people,<space>and<space>then<space>we're<space>ahead<space>--<space>-<space>I<space>think<space>you<space>understand<space>where<space>I'm<space>coming<space>from<space>and<space>just<space>trying<space>to<space>keep<space>the<space>town<space>whole,<space>in<space>terms<space>of<space>we<space>were<space>assisting<space>at<space>a<space>$7,500<space>deductible<space>because<space>of<space>a<space>certain<space>policy<space>that<space>we<space>had<space>and<space>now<space>because<space>of<space>a<space>changed<space>situation<space>--<space>-<space>Yeah,<space>we're<space>all<space>aware<space>now<space>of<space>the<space>situation<space>that<space>existed<space>for<space>a<space>long<space>time.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1411.04 4.72 Unfortunately<space>it<space>never<space>bothered<space>us<space>and,<space>yes,<space>which<space>is<space>why<space>we're<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1416.00 4.96 And<space>that's<space>the<space>solution<space>that<space>we're<space>trying<space>to<space>solve.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1421.04 5.20 It's<space>a<space>problem<space>we're<space>trying<space>to<space>solve<space>in<space>a<space>way<space>that<space>keeps<space>us<space>whole,<space>absolutely.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1426.56 2.16 If<space>I<space>may,<space>-<space>Hold<space>on<space>one<space>sec.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1429.12 0.40 Are<space>you<space>done?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1429.76 1.68 Just<space>one<space>other<space>general<space>comment.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1431.84 8.00 I<space>appreciate<space>you<space>laying<space>out<space>the<space>timeline,<space>Jim,<space>but<space>I<space>think,<space>I<space>see<space>how<space>hard<space>and<space>hear<space>how<space>hard<space>everyone<space>is<space>working<space>right<space>now.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1440.00 10.56 And<space>I<space>think<space>it's<space>really<space>not<space>fair<space>to<space>throw<space>Kevin<space>under<space>the<space>bus<space>like<space>this<space>and<space>not<space>have<space>him<space>be<space>present<space>to<space>explain<space>why<space>there<space>was<space>a<space>delay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1450.64 2.72 I<space>don't<space>know<space>the<space>details<space>of<space>why<space>there<space>was<space>a<space>delay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1453.52 3.04 I<space>do<space>know<space>that<space>he<space>has<space>been<space>absent<space>for<space>some<space>time.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1456.64 4.40 And<space>so,<space>everyone<space>at<space>this<space>table<space>knew<space>that<space>he<space>was<space>absent<space>for<space>that<space>time.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1461.12 7.20 So,<space>I<space>just<space>would<space>ask<space>that<space>we<space>dismiss<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1468.80 0.72 If<space>I<space>may.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1469.60 0.56 Yes.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1470.56 6.32 I<space>started<space>working<space>on<space>this<space>issue<space>with<space>Kevin<space>in<space>March,<space>well<space>before<space>anything<space>happened<space>with<space>respect<space>to<space>Kevin.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1476.96 6.80 If<space>at<space>any<space>point<space>during<space>that<space>period<space>of<space>time<space>he<space>had<space>simply<space>delivered<space>the<space>authorization<space>letter<space>that<space>I<space>sought,<space>we<space>would<space>never<space>have<space>had<space>this<space>crisis.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1483.92 1.84 I<space>feel<space>badly<space>that<space>Kevin's<space>not<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1485.76 0.48 I'm<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1486.32 1.68 This<space>is<space>actually<space>my<space>15th<space>anniversary.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1488.00 3.20 My<space>wife<space>is<space>furious<space>that<space>I'm<space>here,<space>but<space>I'm<space>here<space>and<space>he's<space>not.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1491.20 2.16 And<space>I'm<space>here<space>because<space>I<space>have<space>respect<space>for<space>this<space>process.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1493.36 1.92 And<space>I<space>want<space>to<space>get<space>this<space>crisis<space>resolved.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1495.44 4.96 And<space>it's<space>undeniable<space>that<space>Kevin<space>could<space>have<space>issued<space>this<space>letter<space>at<space>an<space>earlier<space>point<space>in<space>time.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1500.48 4.16 It's<space>also<space>undeniable<space>that<space>if<space>he<space>had,<space>we<space>would<space>have<space>had<space>this<space>resolved<space>a<space>long<space>time<space>ago.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1504.88 2.72 I<space>just<space>think<space>it's<space>unfortunate<space>that<space>no<space>one<space>on<space>the<space>Board<space>knew<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1507.68 1.36 If<space>I<space>may.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1510.00 1.52 I'll<space>get<space>back<space>to<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1511.68 0.48 Good.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1512.32 6.56 And<space>you<space>said<space>multiple<space>plaintiffs<space>at<space>$7,500<space>per<space>deductible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1519.04 1.44 And<space>it<space>could<space>be<space>many<space>more.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1520.48 2.32 I<space>think<space>that's<space>what<space>I'm<space>hearing<space>out<space>there.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1523.04 28.32 If<space>the<space>town<space>was<space>at<space>that<space>kind<space>of<space>a<space>liability<space>risk,<space>and<space>this<space>just<space>came<space>about<space>because<space>of<space>the<space>Dutton-Weldner<space>case,<space>why<space>would<space>ever<space>we<space>want<space>to<space>proceed<space>in<space>the<space>future,<space>even<space>with<space>that<space>policy,<space>if<space>there<space>was<space>going<space>to<space>be<space>a<space>chance<space>that<space>we<space>could<space>have<space>a<space>class<space>action<space>lawsuit<space>down<space>the<space>road,<space>have<space>a<space>thousand<space>people,<space>times<space>7,500<space>bucks<space>to<space>the<space>point<space>of<space>$7.5<space>million<space>and<space>the<space>revenue<space>stream<space>that<space>we<space>receive<space>per<space>year<space>at<space>that,<space>at<space>two<space>years.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1551.44 6.00 But<space>when<space>--<space>-<space>yeah,<space>-<space>I<space>mean,<space>it<space>would<space>just,<space>and<space>you<space>know,<space>it's<space>not<space>smart<space>business.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1557.68 2.00 Do<space>you<space>agree<space>or<space>disagree?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1560.64 0.80 I<space>think<space>that's<space>right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1562.08 13.44 One<space>of<space>the<space>goals<space>here<space>ought<space>to<space>be<space>to<space>place<space>a<space>limit,<space>a<space>cap<space>on<space>our<space>exposure<space>for<space>any<space>event<space>that<space>occurs<space>up<space>there<space>which<space>is<space>our<space>fault.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1575.84 4.64 And<space>maybe<space>that's<space>the<space>good<space>thing<space>that'll<space>come<space>out<space>of<space>all<space>this<space>is<space>that<space>we'll<space>have<space>accomplished<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1580.56 2.56 But<space>you<space>don't<space>have<space>the<space>exposure<space>in<space>every<space>town.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1583.28 2.56 You<space>have<space>it<space>in<space>so<space>many<space>towns<space>that<space>hold<space>a<space>big<space>venue.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1585.84 3.60 Does<space>Mansfield<space>have<space>the<space>same<space>exposure<space>with<space>that<space>venue<space>they<space>hold?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1589.68 8.88 I<space>mean<space>do<space>you<space>have<space>any<space>--<space>-<space>Well,<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>differences,<space>Mark,<space>is<space>that<space>we<space>own<space>the<space>stadium<space>and<space>we<space>own<space>the<space>police<space>force.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1598.64 3.68 Now<space>--<space>-<space>We<space>don't<space>--<space>-<space>We<space>own<space>the<space>land<space>under<space>the<space>stadium.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1602.32 1.20 Same<space>as<space>the<space>fixture,<space>I<space>guess.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1603.92 3.68 So<space>you<space>know<space>--<space>-<space>But<space>that's<space>the<space>difference.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1607.60 8.48 And,<space>you<space>know,<space>Jim,<space>I'll<space>tell<space>you<space>an<space>easy<space>solution<space>to<space>the<space>problem,<space>and<space>I'm<space>just<space>repeating,<space>but<space>you<space>know,<space>don't<space>own<space>the<space>police<space>force.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1616.48 1.84 Have<space>'em<space>do<space>do<space>their<space>own<space>policing<space>of<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1618.32 3.04 I'm<space>not<space>suggesting<space>that<space>that's<space>not<space>a<space>recommendation.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1621.84 2.40 There's<space>all<space>kinds<space>of<space>ramifications<space>from<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1624.24 1.12 But<space>--<space>-<space>Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1625.36 1.92 --<space>but<space>that<space>is<space>a<space>solution.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1627.28 10.16 But<space>the<space>followup<space>though,<space>and<space>I<space>made<space>the<space>statement<space>a<space>long<space>time<space>ago,<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>if<space>anybody<space>remembers,<space>but<space>the<space>town<space>is<space>a<space>liability<space>because<space>we<space>own<space>the<space>land<space>that's<space>in<space>the<space>lease<space>agreement.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1637.52 7.28 Why<space>wouldn't<space>we<space>just<space>change<space>that<space>and<space>sell<space>the<space>land<space>and<space>get<space>out<space>from<space>this<space>whole<space>situation.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1644.96 0.80 I'm<space>askin'.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1645.84 1.60 Is<space>there<space>any<space>reason<space>why<space>we<space>wouldn't?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1647.52 6.40 I<space>would<space>suggest<space>that's<space>an<space>entirely<space>different<space>topic<space>We've<space>got<space>a<space>short<space>window<space>to<space>get<space>this<space>thing<space>resolved.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1654.08 3.68 that<space>question<space>itself<space>is<space>--<space>I<space>don't<space>think<space>we<space>can<space>begin<space>to<space>talk<space>about<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1658.16 1.28 One<space>more<space>thing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1659.84 3.28 Jim,<space>you<space>kind<space>of<space>arranged<space>that<space>right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1663.12 3.12 You're<space>throwing<space>the<space>town<space>manager<space>right<space>now<space>under<space>the<space>bus.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1666.56 7.12 Did<space>you<space>have<space>any<space>documentary,<space>any<space>document<space>to<space>prove<space>any<space>of<space>this<space>or<space>you<space>just<space>--<space>I<space>mean,<space>I<space>can't<space>take<space>it<space>as<space>hearsay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1673.76 1.84 I<space>can't<space>sit<space>here<space>and<space>listen<space>to<space>hearsay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1675.60 6.16 If<space>you've<space>got<space>something<space>that<space>can<space>prove<space>your<space>point,<space>and<space>if<space>you're<space>gonna<space>make<space>statements<space>like<space>that,<space>you<space>need<space>to<space>prove<space>'em.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1681.76 1.04 That's<space>what<space>I'm<space>saying.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1683.04 1.68 Well,<space>I<space>stand<space>by<space>my<space>statements.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1684.80 5.12 I<space>will<space>happily<space>send<space>you<space>the<space>emails<space>that<space>I<space>have<space>exchanged<space>over<space>the<space>last<space>three<space>months.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1690.08 3.84 I<space>know<space>that<space>you<space>were<space>in<space>a<space>meeting<space>with<space>me<space>when<space>I<space>spoke<space>with<space>Kevin.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1694.16 4.40 I<space>know<space>that<space>Selectman<space>Davelas<space>was<space>also<space>in<space>a<space>meeting<space>with<space>me.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1698.64 8.40 And<space>I<space>believe<space>it<space>was<space>at<space>that<space>meeting<space>where<space>Kevin<space>told<space>us<space>that<space>he<space>would<space>issue<space>the<space>letter<space>that<space>week,<space>and<space>that<space>he<space>understood<space>the<space>deadline.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1707.04 8.80 I<space>mean,<space>we<space>discussed<space>what<space>would<space>happen<space>in<space>the<space>crisis<space>situation<space>and<space>what,<space>if<space>anything,<space>we<space>should<space>be<space>doing<space>to<space>protect<space>the<space>town<space>from<space>that<space>crisis.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1716.00 3.60 And<space>it<space>was<space>six<space>weeks<space>ago,<space>which<space>wasn't<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>time.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1719.68 3.44 And<space>we<space>talked<space>about<space>that,<space>but<space>we<space>did<space>talk<space>about<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1723.20 1.12 He<space>did<space>make<space>commitments.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1724.40 0.72 You<space>were<space>both<space>there.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1725.12 3.68 If<space>I'm<space>wrong,<space>please<space>tell<space>me<space>because<space>I'm<space>not<space>trying<space>to<space>throw<space>him<space>under<space>the<space>bus.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1728.88 5.28 What<space>I<space>am<space>trying<space>to<space>do,<space>though,<space>is<space>let<space>you<space>know<space>that<space>this<space>group<space>has<space>been<space>working<space>very,<space>very<space>diligently.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1734.32 6.24 This<space>group<space>has<space>been<space>very,<space>very<space>focused<space>on<space>the<space>potential<space>crisis<space>that<space>could<space>result<space>if<space>we<space>miss<space>a<space>deadline.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1740.80 5.84 I<space>personally<space>made<space>Kevin<space>aware<space>that<space>we<space>don't<space>want<space>to<space>be<space>in<space>that<space>situation.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1746.72 2.72 We<space>collectively<space>don't<space>want<space>to<space>be<space>in<space>a<space>crisis<space>situation.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1749.52 4.96 We<space>want<space>to<space>have<space>this<space>insurance<space>issue<space>resolved<space>as<space>early<space>in<space>the<space>process<space>as<space>possible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1754.56 1.04 And<space>we<space>didn't.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1755.92 0.64 We<space>haven't.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1756.56 6.00 We're<space>sitting<space>here<space>today<space>on<space>the<space>27th<space>of<space>June<space>in<space>crisis<space>mode,<space>and<space>it<space>didn't<space>have<space>to<space>be<space>that<space>way.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1762.64 5.04 But<space>I<space>will<space>send<space>Dick<space>Gelerman<space>the<space>emails<space>that<space>I<space>have,<space>and<space>hopefully<space>he'll<space>provide<space>them<space>with<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1767.68 8.56 But<space>I<space>really<space>do<space>go<space>back<space>to<space>that<space>meeting<space>we<space>had<space>in<space>May,<space>that<space>you<space>were<space>both<space>at<space>and<space>we<space>did<space>talk<space>about<space>this<space>issue<space>and<space>we<space>did<space>talk<space>about<space>what<space>needed<space>to<space>be<space>done.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1776.32 6.16 And<space>Kevin<space>did<space>make<space>commitments<space>to<space>all<space>of<space>us<space>that<space>he<space>would<space>do<space>the<space>authorization<space>letter<space>at<space>a<space>minimum.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1782.64 6.56 If<space>he<space>had<space>done<space>it<space>back<space>then<space>we<space>would<space>have<space>had<space>the<space>proposals<space>very,<space>very,<space>you<space>know,<space>a<space>week<space>later,<space>ten<space>days<space>later.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1789.28 3.28 We<space>would<space>have<space>probably<space>had<space>this<space>meeting<space>in<space>early<space>June.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1792.72 6.88 We<space>would<space>have<space>decided<space>upon<space>a<space>particular<space>insurance<space>course<space>of<space>action,<space>and<space>we<space>would<space>never<space>have<space>the<space>crisis<space>that<space>we<space>have<space>right<space>now.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1799.68 4.00 And<space>that's<space>not<space>throwing<space>someone<space>under<space>the<space>bus,<space>but<space>that<space>is<space>a<space>statement<space>of<space>fact.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1803.68 1.68 And<space>it<space>is<space>about<space>accountability.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1805.76 1.60 Tim,<space>you<space>wanna...?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1807.44 0.32 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1807.76 2.00 Again,<space>caution<space>the<space>Board.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1810.40 3.92 And<space>then<space>I<space>understand<space>Kevin's<space>not<space>here,<space>the<space>meeting<space>that<space>we<space>were<space>at.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1814.40 4.64 And<space>please<space>understand<space>Kevin<space>is<space>working<space>from<space>the<space>time<space>he's<space>meeting<space>with<space>you<space>on<space>your<space>issue.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1819.12 7.68 he's<space>also<space>meeting<space>with<space>Meyers,<space>he's<space>meeting<space>with<space>the<space>--<space>dealing<space>with<space>the<space>Weldner-Dutton<space>case,<space>and<space>he's<space>looking<space>at<space>the<space>town<space>as<space>a<space>whole.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1826.88 6.64 So<space>to<space>jump<space>out<space>of<space>that<space>meeting<space>and<space>says<space>that<space>he's<space>gonna<space>do<space>something<space>without<space>considering<space>all<space>the<space>other<space>facets<space>that<space>he's<space>dealing<space>with.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1833.52 7.28 Again,<space>if<space>Kevin's<space>not<space>here,<space>I<space>just<space>wish<space>we<space>get<space>off<space>this<space>subject<space>and<space>focus<space>on<space>today<space>is<space>the<space>27th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1840.88 8.24 We've<space>got<space>an<space>event<space>on<space>the<space>6th,<space>all<space>this<space>stuff,<space>I'm<space>sure,<space>is<space>gonna<space>fall<space>out<space>one<space>way<space>or<space>the<space>other,<space>cause<space>nobody<space>wants<space>to<space>be<space>in<space>crisis<space>mode.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1849.20 5.60 But<space>if<space>we're<space>gonna<space>focus<space>for<space>the<space>next<space>hour<space>on<space>whose<space>fault<space>it<space>was,<space>this<space>is<space>a<space>little<space>bit<space>of<space>uncharted<space>territory.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1854.80 4.32 We've<space>got<space>class<space>action<space>suit,<space>we've<space>got<space>a<space>stadium<space>with<space>events<space>coming<space>up.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1859.20 8.56 And<space>if<space>we<space>don't<space>start<space>working<space>together<space>and<space>stop<space>pointing<space>the<space>fingers,<space>especially<space>when<space>a<space>3rd<space>party<space>is<space>not<space>here,<space>we're<space>gonna<space>be<space>spinning<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>wheels<space>right<space>now.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1867.76 5.84 So<space>if<space>we<space>want<space>to<space>get<space>this<space>thing<space>resolved<space>for<space>an<space>event<space>next<space>Saturday,<space>let's<space>talk<space>about<space>what<space>our<space>options<space>are.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1873.60 6.32 Now<space>we've<space>spoken<space>about,<space>you<space>know,<space>individual<space>claims<space>versus<space>claims<space>in<space>aggregate.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1880.00 11.60 If<space>there's<space>different<space>options<space>out<space>there,<space>and<space>if<space>we<space>can<space>get,<space>maybe<space>--<space>the<space>good<space>news<space>about<space>that<space>it's<space>crisis<space>mode<space>is<space>people<space>work<space>extra<space>diligently<space>because<space>there's<space>a<space>deadline<space>in<space>a<space>couple<space>of<space>days<space>versus<space>a<space>couple<space>months.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1893.84 2.24 We've<space>got<space>to<space>work<space>together<space>on<space>this<space>starting<space>tonight.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1896.16 3.76 And<space>if<space>we<space>don't,<space>I<space>mean,<space>basically<space>we<space>have<space>one<space>day,<space>it<space>was<space>the<space>day<space>after<space>the<space>4th<space>of<space>July.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1899.92 2.24 I<space>don't<space>even<space>know<space>who<space>the<space>heck's<space>gonna<space>be<space>here<space>that<space>day.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1902.24 9.12 So<space>if<space>we<space>don't<space>leave<space>this<space>room<space>tonight<space>with<space>some<space>type<space>of<space>a<space>consensus,<space>I<space>wouldn't<space>be<space>too<space>comfortable<space>about<space>Saturday<space>on<space>the<space>6th,<space>so.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1911.52 0.64 Sean.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1912.40 0.32 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1913.20 0.56 Two<space>questions.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1913.76 7.36 One<space>is,<space>you<space>had<space>mentioned<space>that<space>the<space>insurance<space>company,<space>mentioned<space>that<space>they<space>would<space>prefer<space>to<space>have<space>one<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1921.28 1.76 Is<space>that<space>the<space>way<space>this<space>is<space>going?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1923.12 3.04 Or<space>are<space>we<space>going<space>to<space>have<space>an<space>overlay<space>policy<space>on<space>our<space>existing<space>policy?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1926.64 9.36 It's<space>going<space>toward<space>one<space>law<space>enforcement<space>policy<space>covering<space>the<space>town,<space>town-wide<space>as<space>well<space>as<space>at<space>the<space>stadium.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1936.16 7.12 And<space>to<space>go<space>back<space>to<space>Mark's<space>statement,<space>you<space>know,<space>if<space>the<space>stadium<space>weren't<space>here,<space>Foxborough<space>would<space>just<space>be<space>a<space>sleepy<space>town<space>in<space>the<space>Boston<space>suburbs.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1943.60 2.80 With<space>the<space>stadium<space>here,<space>we<space>have<space>these<space>issues.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1948.00 7.84 Is<space>there<space>an<space>instrument<space>out<space>there<space>that<space>the<space>insurance<space>companies<space>may<space>provide<space>that<space>could<space>cap<space>our<space>liability<space>to<space>a<space>reasonable<space>level?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1955.84 4.96 Because<space>as<space>you<space>mentioned,<space>even<space>at<space>the<space>$7,500,<space>there's<space>still<space>no<space>limit.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1960.88 1.68 And,<space>you<space>take<space>a<space>look<space>at<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1962.56 7.52 And<space>if<space>we<space>were<space>not<space>to<space>prevail<space>in<space>this<space>class<space>action<space>suit<space>we're<space>still<space>open<space>to<space>a<space>substantial<space>amount<space>of<space>payment,<space>which<space>the<space>town<space>would<space>have<space>to<space>bear.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1970.32 2.48 So<space>it's<space>re-insurance?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1972.96 0.48 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1973.52 0.96 Maybe<space>that's<space>the<space>term?
2013_06_27BOS 1 1974.48 13.28 But<space>if<space>there's<space>a<space>re-insurance<space>policy<space>that<space>could<space>be<space>an<space>umbrella<space>over<space>the<space>top<space>that<space>could<space>potentially<space>limit<space>our<space>liability,<space>I<space>think<space>we'd<space>all<space>feel<space>more<space>comfortable<space>because<space>even<space>the<space>$7,500,<space>it's<space>just<space>people<space>aren't<space>forever<space>depending<space>on<space>the<space>number<space>of<space>plaintiffs<space>that<space>come<space>forward.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1988.32 1.68 If<space>I<space>may,<space>Jim.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1990.40 7.36 Over<space>the<space>past<space>six<space>months,<space>I've<space>actually<space>had<space>the<space>opportunity<space>to<space>learn<space>a<space>lot<space>more<space>about<space>this<space>particular<space>type<space>of<space>insurance<space>than<space>I<space>ever<space>had<space>any<space>interest<space>in<space>learning.
2013_06_27BOS 1 1997.84 2.48 And<space>what<space>I've<space>learned<space>is<space>basically<space>the<space>following.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2000.96 6.40 Every<space>municipality<space>with<space>a<space>police<space>force<space>buys<space>this<space>law<space>enforcement<space>professional<space>liability<space>insurance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2007.52 3.60 And<space>there<space>are<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>different<space>ways<space>to<space>buy<space>the<space>insurance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2011.36 3.36 The<space>MIA<space>policy<space>that<space>you<space>buy<space>is<space>one<space>way.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2014.96 5.44 And<space>what<space>I<space>mean<space>by<space>one<space>way,<space>your<space>deductible<space>is<space>based<space>upon<space>a<space>per<space>claimant.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2020.48 3.36 So<space>every<space>the<space>Weldner-Dutton<space>case<space>is<space>a<space>wonderful<space>example.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2023.92 5.04 Every<space>person<space>who<space>was<space>wrongly<space>placed<space>into<space>protective<space>custody<space>has<space>a<space>potential<space>claim<space>for<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2029.04 5.76 And<space>the<space>first<space>$7,500<space>of<space>each<space>one<space>of<space>those<space>claims<space>is<space>for<space>your<space>account,<space>not<space>for<space>the<space>insurer's<space>account.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2034.80 1.60 So<space>that's<space>one<space>way<space>to<space>do<space>this.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2036.88 11.52 Another<space>way<space>to<space>do<space>it,<space>and<space>I<space>actually<space>have<space>a<space>copy<space>of<space>a<space>policy<space>here<space>that's<space>also<space>in<space>place<space>in<space>Massachusetts<space>and<space>used<space>by<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>municipalities,<space>is<space>to<space>do<space>it<space>on<space>a<space>per<space>wrongful<space>event<space>basis.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2048.48 17.92 And<space>if<space>that<space>were<space>the<space>case<space>in,<space>if<space>that<space>policy<space>were<space>in<space>place,<space>when<space>the<space>Weldner-Dutton<space>claimants<space>came<space>into<space>being,<space>what<space>would<space>happen<space>is<space>each<space>one<space>of<space>those<space>people<space>would<space>be<space>part<space>of<space>the<space>same<space>wrongful<space>event<space>and<space>they<space>would<space>all<space>fall<space>within<space>the<space>deductible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2066.40 20.08 And<space>the<space>deductibles<space>on<space>those<space>policies<space>are,<space>generally<space>speaking<space>--<space>And<space>once<space>again,<space>I'm<space>a<space>lawyer,<space>not<space>an<space>insurance<space>consultant,<space>but<space>what<space>I've<space>learned<space>over<space>the<space>last<space>six<space>months<space>is<space>the<space>deductibles<space>on<space>those<space>per<space>wrongful<space>event<space>policies<space>are<space>usually<space>$25,000<space>to<space>$50,000<space>and,<space>obviously,<space>higher<space>deductibles<space>generally<space>result<space>in<space>lower<space>premiums<space>and<space>vice<space>versa.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2087.44 4.32 There<space>are<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>variants<space>on<space>those,<space>but<space>those<space>are,<space>in<space>general,<space>the<space>ways<space>to<space>do<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2091.76 18.40 And<space>so<space>municipalities<space>that<space>have<space>a<space>concern<space>about<space>overall<space>exposure,<space>as<space>you<space>just<space>expressed,<space>they<space>like<space>to<space>go<space>for<space>the<space>per<space>wrongful<space>event<space>where<space>you<space>have<space>a<space>cap<space>and<space>then<space>they<space>decide<space>how<space>much<space>of<space>a<space>premium<space>tolerance<space>they<space>have,<space>and<space>they<space>decide<space>whether<space>to<space>buy<space>a<space>$25,000<space>cap<space>or<space>a<space>$50,000<space>cap.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2110.72 17.12 I<space>understand<space>further<space>that<space>MIA<space>has<space>been<space>evolving<space>their<space>law<space>enforcement<space>coverage<space>to<space>a<space>higher<space>deductible,<space>that<space>you<space>have<space>had<space>the<space>good<space>fortune<space>of<space>keeping<space>the<space>lower<space>deductible<space>for<space>an<space>extended<space>period<space>of<space>time.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2128.00 2.80 And,<space>you<space>know,<space>that's<space>part<space>of<space>what's<space>going<space>on<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2130.80 5.04 There<space>a<space>little<space>bit<space>of<space>an<space>anachronism<space>going<space>on<space>with<space>respect<space>to<space>your<space>policy,<space>to<space>your<space>benefit.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2136.40 10.08 But<space>I<space>think<space>the<space>alternatives<space>that<space>we<space>will<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>get,<space>will<space>show<space>you<space>that<space>spectrum,<space>and<space>you'll<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>choose<space>where<space>on<space>the<space>risk<space>premium<space>spectrum<space>you<space>want<space>to<space>be.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2146.88 16.56 And<space>I<space>will<space>also<space>offer<space>the<space>gratuitous<space>comment<space>that<space>when<space>I<space>first<space>looked<space>at<space>your<space>policy,<space>I<space>thought<space>that<space>I<space>would<space>personally<space>prefer<space>to<space>have<space>the<space>per<space>wrongful<space>event<space>coverage,<space>because<space>I<space>like<space>the<space>catastrophic<space>protection<space>that<space>you<space>get<space>in<space>that<space>circumstance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2163.44 7.92 You<space>know,<space>when<space>you<space>have<space>a<space>$50,000<space>wrongful<space>event<space>coverage,<space>you're<space>not<space>ever<space>looking<space>at<space>millions<space>of<space>dollars<space>of<space>exposure.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2171.44 9.68 You<space>may<space>be<space>looking<space>at<space>more<space>nuisances<space>that<space>you<space>prefer<space>not<space>to<space>deal<space>with,<space>but<space>you<space>never<space>get<space>into<space>a<space>situation<space>like<space>Weldner-Dutton<space>or<space>where<space>you<space>suddenly<space>have<space>potentially<space>a<space>million<space>dollars<space>of<space>exposure.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2181.92 0.56 Jim?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2182.64 1.36 I'm<space>all<space>set,<space>thanks.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2184.24 1.60 Mark,<space>do<space>you<space>have<space>anything<space>to<space>add?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2187.28 10.16 -<space>If<space>I<space>may<space>to<space>try<space>to<space>address<space>your<space>issue,<space>Mr.<space>Gray,<space>the<space>per<space>person<space>cap,<space>the<space>per<space>person<space>deductible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2197.84 11.20 I'm<space>not<space>sure<space>whether<space>there<space>is<space>a<space>mechanism,<space>but<space>I<space>have<space>heard<space>of<space>insurers<space>that<space>have<space>said<space>there<space>is<space>a<space>per<space>person<space>deductible,<space>but<space>up<space>to<space>a<space>maximum<space>deductible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2209.12 6.88 So<space>whether<space>it's<space>five<space>persons<space>or<space>ten<space>claimants,<space>I've<space>heard<space>of<space>insurers<space>that<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2216.08 8.80 I<space>don't<space>know<space>whether<space>that<space>is<space>an<space>option<space>under<space>the<space>MIA<space>policy<space>or<space>under<space>the<space>policies<space>of<space>any<space>of<space>the<space>other<space>insurers<space>that<space>Attorney<space>Cobery<space>is<space>speaking<space>to.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2225.20 5.44 Wrongful<space>events,<space>I'm<space>aware<space>that<space>GL<space>policies<space>have<space>per<space>occurrence<space>limits.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2231.28 3.04 Professional<space>liabilities<space>have<space>wrongful<space>events<space>limits.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2234.32 8.96 And<space>I<space>can<space>appreciate<space>that<space>that<space>can<space>be,<space>for<space>the<space>catastrophic<space>loss,<space>a<space>better<space>protection<space>for<space>someone<space>or<space>an<space>insured<space>like<space>the<space>town<space>of<space>Foxborough.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2243.28 7.20 I<space>think<space>we<space>have<space>to<space>appreciate<space>here<space>that,<space>at<space>least<space>with<space>respect<space>to<space>the<space>Weldner-Dutton<space>case,<space>the<space>claimants,<space>there<space>are<space>four,<space>currently<space>four<space>plaintiffs.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2250.80 8.88 Counsel<space>for<space>the<space>four<space>plaintiffs<space>has<space>said<space>that<space>there<space>may<space>be<space>in<space>excess<space>of<space>2,700,<space>and<space>they're<space>talking<space>about<space>more<space>than<space>just<space>one<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2259.76 5.92 So,<space>they're<space>talking<space>about<space>the<space>Bruce<space>Springsteen<space>concert,<space>the<space>Country<space>Fest<space>events,<space>Patriots<space>games.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2265.68 6.56 So,<space>I'm<space>not<space>quite<space>sure<space>how<space>many,<space>when<space>they<space>say<space>2,700,<space>I'm<space>not<space>quite<space>sure<space>how<space>many<space>events<space>they're<space>talking<space>about.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2272.56 6.00 The<space>higher<space>deductible,<space>I<space>appreciate<space>that<space>the<space>MIA<space>contract<space>right<space>now<space>is<space>at<space>$7,500.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2278.80 13.04 My<space>understanding<space>was<space>that<space>the<space>rationale<space>for<space>increasing<space>it<space>to<space>50,000<space>was<space>that<space>the<space>protection<space>that<space>both<space>the<space>town<space>and<space>MIA<space>thought<space>was<space>in<space>place<space>wasn't,<space>turned<space>out<space>not<space>to<space>be<space>in<space>place.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2291.92 9.12 So,<space>that's<space>why<space>it's<space>going<space>up<space>to<space>$50,000,<space>and<space>it<space>was<space>conditioned<space>upon<space>that<space>it<space>would<space>stay<space>at<space>$7,500<space>if<space>alternative<space>insurance<space>was<space>in<space>place.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2301.04 19.20 And<space>I<space>don't<space>know,<space>to<space>get<space>to<space>what,<space>whether<space>it<space>makes<space>more<space>sense,<space>frankly,<space>to<space>eliminate<space>the<space>MIA<space>law<space>enforcement<space>policy<space>entirely,<space>or<space>have<space>it<space>as<space>excess<space>law<space>enforcement<space>coverage<space>over<space>whatever<space>the<space>other<space>alternative<space>policy<space>is.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2320.24 2.64 I<space>don't<space>know<space>--<space>-<space>--<space>trying<space>to<space>find<space>out<space>what<space>the<space>mechanics<space>would<space>be.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2322.88 1.36 Right,<space>right,<space>right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2326.72 15.84 So,<space>potentially,<space>you<space>could<space>structure<space>it<space>that<space>if<space>the<space>town<space>re<space>--<space>kept<space>that<space>existing<space>law<space>enforcement<space>policy<space>in<space>place<space>that<space>that<space>could<space>apply<space>to<space>all<space>town<space>related<space>events,<space>and<space>then<space>this<space>other<space>policy<space>could<space>strictly<space>cover<space>stadium-related<space>events?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2343.04 0.96 I<space>would<space>think<space>so.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2344.00 16.00 I<space>mean,<space>I'm<space>not<space>an<space>insurance<space>consultant<space>as<space>well,<space>but<space>I<space>always<space>thought<space>that<space>there<space>could<space>be<space>a<space>way<space>to<space>define<space>stadium<space>event<space>in<space>such<space>a<space>way<space>that<space>the<space>new<space>policy<space>covers<space>the<space>stadium<space>events<space>and<space>the<space>MIA<space>policy<space>covers<space>non-stadium<space>events.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2360.00 5.84 I<space>think<space>that<space>sounds<space>like<space>the<space>cleanest<space>--<space>-<space>And<space>they<space>agree<space>to<space>a<space>common<space>definition<space>so<space>that<space>nothing<space>falls<space>through<space>the<space>cracks.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2365.84 0.16 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2366.00 0.48 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2366.64 0.88 Thank<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2368.16 3.44 Anybody<space>else<space>on<space>the<space>Board,<space>at<space>this<space>point?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2372.00 1.12 Bob,<space>anything<space>to<space>add?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2373.36 3.76 I'm<space>just<space>sensitive<space>to<space>the<space>timeframe<space>as<space>Jim<space>already<space>mentioned.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2377.52 4.48 We<space>have<space>very<space>few<space>days<space>to<space>try<space>to<space>apply<space>for<space>a<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2382.08 2.80 Understand<space>that's<space>the<space>beginning<space>of<space>the<space>process,<space>correct?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2384.88 0.72 Yes.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2386.08 10.24 And<space>you<space>know,<space>tomorrow's<space>Friday,<space>you<space>get<space>the<space>weekend<space>and<space>then<space>you<space>have<space>4th<space>of<space>July<space>on<space>Thursday,<space>and<space>you<space>would<space>need<space>to<space>plan<space>another<space>meeting<space>--<space>-<space>On<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2396.56 6.96 On<space>the<space>5th,<space>so,<space>just<space>--<space>-<space>I<space>won't<space>be<space>in<space>town<space>on<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2403.60 2.08 So<space>those<space>are<space>the<space>issues<space>that<space>you're<space>dealing<space>with.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2405.92 5.04 You<space>just<space>have<space>to<space>be<space>aware<space>of<space>the<space>time<space>limitations.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2411.04 1.12 I<space>can't.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2412.96 2.08 There's<space>no<space>way<space>I<space>can<space>be<space>here<space>on<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2415.12 0.88 James,<space>too.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2416.00 2.32 Anybody<space>else<space>gone<space>on<space>the<space>5th?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2418.56 2.80 Something<space>that<space>the<space>whole<space>Board<space>needs<space>to<space>be<space>together.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2421.52 0.80 Sean,<space>you?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2422.32 1.20 I'm<space>around.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2424.40 11.76 The<space>other<space>issue<space>is,<space>if<space>you<space>recall,<space>the<space>events<space>that<space>we<space>permitted<space>are<space>contingent<space>upon<space>an<space>indemnification<space>agreement<space>being<space>reached<space>by<space>June<space>30th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2436.16 15.04 So<space>come<space>July<space>1st,<space>it's<space>a<space>potential<space>that<space>those<space>permits<space>are<space>null<space>and<space>void,<space>so<space>we<space>would<space>have<space>to<space>have<space>an<space>extension<space>tonight<space>or<space>up<space>until,<space>I<space>guess,<space>Friday<space>to<space>extend<space>it<space>up<space>until<space>July<space>4th,<space>5th,<space>6th,<space>whenever<space>we<space>do<space>that<space>-<space>Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2452.24 8.96 I<space>have,<space>in<space>anticipation<space>of<space>that,<space>drafted<space>a<space>motion<space>for<space>you,<space>but<space>the,<space>look<space>was<space>--<space>The<space>two<space>of<space>you<space>are<space>gonna<space>be<space>away<space>on<space>the<space>5th?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2461.36 0.88 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2462.32 5.04 Yeah,<space>well<space>--<space>-<space>Yeah,<space>two<space>and<space>a<space>half<space>hours<space>away.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2467.36 5.36 Well,<space>let<space>us<space>look<space>into<space>a<space>way<space>of<space>doing<space>a<space>--<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>that<space>we<space>can<space>do<space>this.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2472.88 8.96 Are<space>you<space>available<space>by<space>phone<space>or<space>by<space>--<space>-<space>It's<space>not<space>allowed<space>--<space>-<space>It's<space>not<space>allowed<space>by<space>our<space>bylaws<space>anyway,<space>so,<space>it's<space>just<space>--<space>-<space>They<space>didn't<space>adopt<space>that<space>provision?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2481.84 2.48 No<space>-<space>They<space>voted<space>not<space>to<space>have<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2484.40 1.84 So<space>it's<space>not<space>permitted.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2486.40 3.60 So,<space>I<space>think<space>you<space>got<space>'til<space>Wednesday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2490.24 1.44 Unfortunately.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2492.16 1.60 Wednesday,<space>what's<space>the<space>date?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2493.84 2.88 Well,<space>we've<space>got<space>five<space>people<space>on<space>Board,<space>we<space>have<space>a<space>quorum<space>of<space>three.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2496.80 2.56 Yeah,<space>but<space>it's<space>just<space>not<space>right<space>for<space>the<space>whole<space>Board<space>not<space>to<space>be<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2499.44 11.12 I<space>just<space>think<space>this<space>is<space>something<space>that<space>the<space>whole<space>Board,<space>especially<space>what<space>you,<space>we<space>all<space>have<space>to<space>offer<space>needs<space>to<space>be<space>together<space>as<space>one<space>and<space>I<space>just<space>don't<space>see<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2511.12 1.76 I<space>wouldn't<space>want<space>that<space>to<space>happen.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2512.96 2.32 I'm<space>sorry.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2516.16 2.96 Can<space>we<space>go<space>in<space>the<space>direction<space>of<space>having<space>the<space>two<space>separate<space>policies?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2519.12 3.12 Stadium<space>definition,<space>town<space>definition.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2522.32 8.00 See<space>if<space>that<space>works<space>with<space>MIA<space>and<space>whoever<space>the<space>other,<space>I<space>guess,<space>whatever<space>the<space>other<space>potential<space>insurers<space>are.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2530.64 4.48 And<space>that<space>way<space>we<space>know<space>we're<space>covered.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2535.12 4.48 You<space>know,<space>we<space>wouldn't<space>cancel<space>the<space>M<space>--<space>you<space>say<space>not<space>cancel<space>the<space>MIA<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2539.68 12.72 The<space>problem<space>being<space>that<space>right<space>now,<space>we<space>can't<space>tell<space>you<space>if<space>the<space>MIA<space>policy<space>is<space>effective,<space>whether<space>or<space>not<space>you're<space>going<space>to<space>be<space>exposed<space>to<space>the<space>$50,000<space>deductible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2552.88 6.32 But<space>if<space>we<space>--<space>-<space>Correct<space>me<space>if<space>I'm<space>wrong,<space>but<space>if<space>the<space>MIA<space>policy<space>will<space>be<space>in<space>effect,<space>-<space>It<space>will<space>be.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2559.28 4.32 however,<space>it'll<space>be<space>subject<space>to<space>a<space>$50,000<space>deductible<space>--<space>-<space>For<space>stadium<space>events.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2563.60 0.48 Correct.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2564.08 2.00 Which<space>isn't<space>a<space>problem<space>until<space>July<space>6th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2566.08 0.48 Correct.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2566.56 0.24 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2567.20 1.68 So<space>exactly.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2568.96 1.44 I<space>said<space>this<space>at<space>the<space>other<space>meeting.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2570.40 5.28 Why<space>can't,<space>in<space>fact,<space>we<space>cover<space>that<space>deductible<space>until<space>we<space>get<space>this<space>straightened<space>out?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2575.68 2.40 It's<space>the<space>simplest<space>way<space>of<space>getting<space>this<space>through.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2578.56 1.84 Because<space>we're<space>unwilling<space>to<space>do<space>so.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2581.60 3.20 It's<space>not<space>our<space>responsibility,<space>if<space>you<space>think<space>about<space>it<space>for<space>a<space>moment<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2585.60 11.20 We<space>made<space>application<space>for<space>an<space>event<space>and<space>you,<space>rightfully,<space>said<space>there<space>are<space>some<space>conditions,<space>one<space>of<space>which<space>is<space>that<space>we<space>need<space>to<space>have<space>police<space>details<space>for<space>these<space>events.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2596.88 0.88 And<space>that's<space>fine.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2597.84 1.44 We're<space>happy<space>to<space>have<space>police<space>details.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2599.28 2.24 We're<space>happy<space>to<space>pay<space>the<space>detail<space>rate<space>for<space>them.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2602.64 4.48 You<space>are<space>the<space>ones<space>who<space>obtain<space>the<space>law<space>enforcement<space>professional<space>liability<space>insurance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2607.20 2.64 We<space>obtain<space>the<space>general<space>liability<space>insurance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2610.16 15.12 We<space>cannot,<space>you<space>know,<space>I<space>said<space>earlier<space>that<space>our<space>consultant<space>has<space>gone<space>out<space>there<space>and<space>tried<space>to<space>find<space>any<space>way<space>possible<space>for<space>us<space>to<space>buy<space>law<space>enforcement<space>professional<space>liability<space>insurance<space>on<space>your<space>police<space>force,<space>and<space>we<space>cannot.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2625.36 1.52 We<space>just<space>simply<space>cannot<space>do<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2627.04 2.00 It's<space>just<space>impossible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2630.32 6.56 For<space>the<space>exact<space>same<space>reason<space>that<space>an<space>insurance<space>company<space>won't<space>issue<space>that<space>policy,<space>we<space>can't<space>do<space>the<space>indemnity.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2637.28 20.00 We<space>don't<space>have<space>control<space>over<space>the<space>individuals<space>that<space>we<space>would<space>be<space>asked<space>to<space>indemnify<space>and<space>the<space>Delta<space>between<space>$7500<space>and<space>$50,000<space>is<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>money,<space>I<space>mean,<space>you'd<space>be<space>talking<space>about<space>hundreds<space>of<space>millions,<space>of<space>dollars<space>of<space>potential<space>exposure<space>over<space>people<space>that<space>we<space>don't<space>have<space>any<space>control.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2657.28 3.52 So<space>what<space>you're<space>asking,<space>I<space>understand<space>that's<space>something<space>that<space>we've<space>all<space>thought<space>about.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2660.96 8.00 If<space>there<space>were<space>a<space>way<space>to<space>do<space>it,<space>we<space>would<space>certainly<space>do<space>it,<space>but<space>it's<space>just<space>too<space>much<space>money<space>with<space>too<space>little<space>control.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2669.28 2.08 It<space>just<space>won't<space>work.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2671.44 4.16 And<space>that's<space>exactly<space>why<space>we're<space>here<space>because<space>we<space>can't<space>deal<space>with<space>that<space>either.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2675.76 8.32 Well,<space>we're<space>dealing<space>with<space>it<space>right<space>now,<space>because<space>--<space>-<space>Mark,<space>one<space>suggestion<space>I<space>have,<space>in<space>terms<space>of<space>trying<space>to<space>get<space>us<space>to<space>the<space>5th<space>is.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2684.08 4.32 Well,<space>the<space>5th<space>is<space>out<space>as<space>far<space>as<space>I'm<space>concerned,<space>because<space>I<space>can't<space>be<space>here,<space>Jim<space>can't<space>be<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2688.40 4.72 Well,<space>I'm<space>two<space>and<space>a<space>half<space>hours<space>away;<space>I'll<space>drive<space>back.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2693.44 12.56 But<space>if<space>I<space>can<space>address<space>that<space>for<space>a<space>second,<space>Mark,<space>is<space>the<space>open<space>meeting<space>law<space>does<space>not<space>prohibit<space>you<space>from<space>talking<space>to<space>me<space>and<space>you<space>talking<space>to<space>me<space>and<space>what<space>your<space>thoughts<space>are.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2706.08 1.36 I<space>can't<space>share<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2707.44 1.12 So<space>it's<space>sequential.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2708.64 3.60 I<space>can't<space>say,<space>I<space>can't<space>tell<space>the<space>rest<space>of<space>the<space>Board,<space>"This<space>is<space>what<space>Mark<space>thinks.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2712.24 1.84 This<space>is<space>what<space>Jim<space>--<space>,"<space>but<space>I<space>can<space>listen.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2714.64 7.60 If<space>there<space>were<space>a<space>meeting<space>on<space>the<space>5th,<space>at<space>that<space>meeting,<space>I<space>can<space>express<space>on<space>your<space>behalf<space>what<space>you're<space>both<space>thinking.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2722.32 6.08 Hopefully,<space>there'll<space>be<space>some<space>information<space>to<space>respond<space>to,<space>as<space>a<space>way<space>to<space>resolve<space>this<space>so<space>that<space>there<space>can<space>be<space>a<space>meeting.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2728.48 1.68 You<space>have<space>a<space>quorum<space>on<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2730.40 8.40 I<space>can<space>present<space>at<space>that<space>meeting,<space>an<space>open<space>meeting,<space>for<space>the<space>first<space>time<space>to<space>your<space>colleagues<space>and<space>what<space>you're<space>thinking<space>on<space>this<space>issue.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2738.80 4.24 It<space>would<space>be<space>hard<space>to<space>tell<space>you<space>what<space>I'm<space>thinking,<space>when<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>the<space>conversation,<space>Dick,<space>that's<space>gonna<space>come<space>forward.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2743.12 2.96 Yep<space>that's<space>the<space>limitation,<space>Mark.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2746.08 2.16 I<space>think,<space>you<space>know<space>what?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2749.76 1.92 I<space>say,<space>go<space>for<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2752.00 0.96 That's<space>what<space>I<space>say.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2753.60 4.40 You<space>know<space>what,<space>we'll<space>try<space>to<space>work<space>with<space>you<space>and<space>Randy'll<space>be<space>here<space>and<space>you<space>need<space>to<space>do<space>it<space>by<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2758.00 1.60 I<space>want<space>to<space>be<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2760.24 2.56 I<space>think<space>everybody<space>here's<space>a<space>must.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2763.04 1.52 This<space>Board<space>works<space>well<space>together.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2764.56 4.80 Everybody<space>has<space>to,<space>you<space>know,<space>good<space>insight<space>and<space>good<space>input<space>to<space>put<space>in<space>the<space>conversation.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2769.84 2.88 So,<space>Randy,<space>would<space>you<space>like<space>to<space>say<space>something?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2773.12 4.48 I'm<space>just<space>curious<space>about<space>the<space>procurement<space>rules<space>that<space>would<space>apply<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2777.60 3.60 Is<space>that<space>another<space>stumbling<space>block<space>for<space>us<space>here<space>or<space>not?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2782.64 3.20 You<space>know,<space>bid<space>process<space>and<space>policy<space>gonna<space>be<space>over<space>$25,000.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2785.84 3.76 This<space>is<space>subject<space>to<space>a<space>bid<space>because<space>it's<space>the<space>town<space>bank<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2790.08 2.00 Yeah,<space>I<space>think<space>it<space>has<space>to<space>go<space>to<space>open<space>bid.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2792.48 1.28 John,<space>correct?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2793.84 0.40 Yup.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2794.32 0.40 All<space>right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2794.72 2.08 So<space>that<space>makes<space>it<space>impossible<space>right<space>there.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2796.80 2.16 Is<space>that<space>what<space>we're<space>saying?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2800.56 1.76 If<space>the<space>town<space>is<space>purchasing<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2802.40 0.40 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2802.88 2.56 I<space>mean<space>is<space>that<space>what<space>you<space>were<space>saying,<space>Jim,<space>the<space>town<space>would<space>have<space>to<space>purchase<space>it?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2805.52 1.20 We<space>cannot<space>purchase<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2806.72 2.64 So<space>that<space>right<space>there<space>we're<space>done.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2809.36 4.00 Didn't<space>we<space>just<space>get<space>a<space>new<space>policy<space>from<space>MIA?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2813.44 0.32 Yes.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2813.76 4.32 It<space>was<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>--<space>-<space>And<space>the<space>town<space>manager<space>followed<space>the<space>bid<space>process.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2818.08 2.80 So<space>that<space>public<space>bid<space>process<space>was<space>adhered<space>to.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2820.88 2.80 Mmhmm<space>-<space>This<space>would<space>be<space>an<space>addendum<space>or<space>an<space>amendment<space>to<space>that?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2823.68 1.92 Is<space>that<space>--<space>-<space>It<space>would<space>be<space>a<space>separate<space>policy<space>correct?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2825.60 6.96 The<space>MIA<space>could<space>--<space>-<space>a<space>different<space>insurance<space>company<space>-<space>yeah<space>-<space>So<space>MIA<space>would<space>not<space>be<space>the<space>insurance<space>company<space>on<space>a<space>stand-alone<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2832.72 4.80 Has<space>anybody<space>seen<space>the<space>bidding,<space>the<space>RFP<space>for<space>that?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2837.52 2.40 Well,<space>it's<space>the<space>30<space>day<space>procurement,<space>right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2840.00 1.12 I<space>don't<space>know<space>what<space>it<space>said.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2841.12 1.20 Randy,<space>help<space>me<space>out<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2842.32 2.24 It's<space>what<space>you<space>do,<space>or<space>you<space>help<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2844.56 5.20 You<space>know,<space>that's<space>a<space>minimum,<space>-<space>Yeah<space>I<space>think<space>that's<space>--<space>-<space>A<space>minimum<space>of<space>30<space>days.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2849.76 1.68 And,<space>is<space>it<space>over<space>25,000?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2851.44 3.12 Oh,<space>it's<space>absolutely<space>gonna<space>be<space>over<space>$25,000<space>-<space>Policy<space>it's<space>on.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2854.56 9.44 My,<space>my<space>understanding<space>is<space>that<space>it<space>will<space>be<space>roughly<space>between<space>30<space>and<space>$50,000<space>of<space>premium<space>that's<space>--<space>-<space>That<space>puts<space>us<space>out<space>of<space>the<space>room<space>right<space>there.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2864.08 9.12 Well,<space>could<space>we<space>do<space>a<space>policy<space>for<space>six<space>months<space>and<space>then<space>do<space>another<space>six<space>month<space>policy<space>just<space>to<space>get<space>it<space>under<space>the<space>procure<space>--<space>No?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2873.20 1.12 Randy<space>said<space>no.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2874.40 0.88 That's<space>really<space>stretched.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2875.84 2.64 Nice<space>thought,<space>but<space>I<space>think<space>that's<space>against<space>the<space>law.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2878.64 3.60 There<space>is<space>one<space>piece<space>of<space>legislation<space>-<space>--<space>how<space>that<space>came<space>about.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2883.12 0.80 Yes.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2883.92 5.60 There<space>is<space>one<space>piece<space>of<space>legislation<space>that's<space>pending,<space>I'm<space>not<space>sure<space>how<space>it's<space>doing,<space>could<space>raise<space>those<space>limits<space>to<space>$50,000.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2891.36 0.88 I<space>could<space>check<space>on<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2892.24 3.84 No,<space>I<space>don't<space>think<space>the<space>legislature's<space>meetin'<space>over<space>the<space>holidays,<space>are<space>they?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2896.88 2.00 This<space>session<space>would<space>end<space>this<space>week.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2898.88 1.36 I'm<space>not<space>sure<space>if<space>that's<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>goals.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2900.24 2.64 We've<space>run<space>into<space>another<space>road<space>block.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2903.20 1.12 I'll<space>check<space>on<space>them.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2904.32 10.72 Well,<space>thank<space>you<space>for<space>your<space>input,<space>Randy<space>You<space>guys<space>want<space>to<space>take<space>a<space>five<space>minute<space>break<space>and<space>think<space>about<space>this,<space>or<space>do<space>you<space>want<space>to<space>sit<space>here<space>and<space>muddle<space>the<space>thoughts?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2915.60 1.20 Muddling<space>sounds<space>good.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2916.80 1.20 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2918.88 14.88 You<space>know,<space>I,<space>I<space>look<space>at<space>the<space>issue<space>and<space>I<space>say<space>the,<space>the<space>MIA<space>policy,<space>as<space>it's<space>going<space>to<space>take<space>effect<space>on<space>July<space>1st<space>with<space>the<space>$50,000<space>per<space>person,<space>I<space>understand<space>your<space>concern<space>about<space>that,<space>but<space>that<space>is<space>the<space>same<space>concern<space>that<space>I<space>have<space>about<space>this.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2933.76 2.40 So,<space>I<space>certainly<space>share<space>your<space>concern<space>on<space>that<space>one.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2937.52 2.40 We<space>are<space>trying<space>our<space>best<space>to<space>make<space>this<space>happen.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2939.92 2.08 And<space>everyone<space>is<space>at<space>this<space>table.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2942.72 5.12 It's<space>not<space>an<space>effort<space>on<space>my<space>part<space>or<space>Dan's<space>part,<space>it's<space>a<space>universal<space>effort<space>on<space>this<space>side<space>of<space>the<space>table.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2950.56 7.28 It<space>may<space>be<space>that<space>it's<space>just<space>going<space>to<space>take<space>longer<space>than<space>next<space>week<space>to<space>get<space>this<space>done,<space>to<space>comply<space>with<space>all<space>the<space>laws,<space>rules,<space>etc.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2960.00 1.84 I<space>go<space>back<space>to<space>what<space>I<space>said<space>before.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2962.40 9.36 When<space>you<space>approved<space>the<space>event<space>license,<space>you<space>were<space>acting<space>within<space>your<space>statutory<space>power<space>to<space>impose<space>conditions<space>related<space>to<space>public<space>health<space>and<space>safety.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2971.84 6.00 And<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>conditions<space>that<space>you<space>imposed<space>was<space>that<space>a<space>police<space>detail<space>take<space>effect.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2978.00 8.72 The<space>problem<space>that<space>we<space>have<space>right<space>now<space>is<space>that<space>the<space>insurance<space>for<space>your<space>police<space>detail<space>is<space>unacceptable<space>in<space>terms<space>of<space>the<space>risks<space>that<space>--<space>-<space>Are<space>we<space>really<space>gonna<space>go<space>down<space>this<space>road,<space>Jim?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2986.72 0.96 Which<space>is<space>what?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2987.84 2.48 That<space>you<space>don't<space>want<space>us<space>to<space>have<space>our<space>police<space>officers<space>there?
2013_06_27BOS 1 2990.32 3.76 That<space>we<space>privately<space>secure<space>the<space>--<space>-<space>No,<space>I<space>wouldn't<space>suggest<space>that<space>we<space>privately<space>secure<space>them.
2013_06_27BOS 1 2994.08 21.28 But<space>if,<space>and<space>I<space>throw<space>this<space>out<space>and<space>I<space>don't<space>offer<space>any<space>criticism<space>whatsoever,<space>but<space>if<space>your<space>risk<space>profile<space>is<space>such<space>that<space>the<space>first<space>30<space>days<space>or<space>so,<space>you<space>can't<space>do<space>it,<space>I<space>would<space>be<space>willing<space>to<space>go<space>talk<space>to<space>Lieutenant<space>Stewart<space>and<space>see<space>if<space>he<space>could<space>provide<space>the<space>police<space>presence<space>that<space>you<space>would<space>very<space>legitimately<space>request<space>under<space>the<space>event<space>license<space>for<space>the<space>6th<space>of<space>July.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3015.36 8.00 And<space>until<space>such<space>time<space>as<space>we<space>get<space>this<space>--<space>-<space>I'll<space>have<space>350<space>grievances<space>on<space>my<space>desk<space>on<space>Monday<space>morning,<space>-<space>How<space>are<space>the<space>state<space>police<space>insured?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3023.36 4.40 If<space>I<space>might,<space>we<space>have<space>a<space>town<space>bylaw<space>that<space>does<space>not<space>allow<space>for<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3027.76 10.88 Yeah<space>-<space>It<space>states<space>that<space>the<space>Chief<space>of<space>Police,<space>Foxborough<space>Chief<space>of<space>Police<space>is<space>in<space>charge<space>of<space>public<space>safety<space>in<space>town,<space>excluding,<space>you<space>know,<space>a<space>state<space>highway.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3039.28 2.88 Yeah,<space>so,<space>it's<space>not<space>a<space>good<space>idea.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3042.96 20.96 Well,<space>you<space>know<space>what<space>that's<space>--<space>-<space>It's<space>not<space>a<space>solution<space>-<space>I<space>don't<space>mean<space>to,<space>I<space>mean,<space>at<space>this<space>point<space>--<space>-<space>Anything<space>else<space>to<space>say,<space>Dan<space>-<space>--<space>the<space>disagreement<space>that<space>we're<space>having<space>--<space>-<space>is<space>$50,000<space>per<space>occurrence<space>-<space>Yeah,<space>but<space>it's<space>over<space>a<space>contingency.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3063.92 1.92 It<space>may<space>or<space>may<space>not<space>occur,<space>right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3066.16 1.44 It<space>may<space>or<space>may<space>not<space>occur.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3067.68 10.72 We<space>disagree<space>with<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Organization<space>as<space>to<space>who<space>are<space>to<space>be<space>responsible<space>for<space>that<space>cost,<space>should<space>we<space>have<space>that<space>cost.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3078.56 1.36 We<space>may<space>never<space>have<space>that<space>cost.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3080.00 1.92 That<space>would<space>be<space>nice.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3082.88 12.56 A<space>thought<space>is<space>that<space>we<space>continue<space>to<space>disagree<space>about<space>that<space>issue<space>and<space>hope<space>it<space>doesn't<space>happen.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3095.52 28.32 If<space>it<space>does<space>happen,<space>so<space>thought<space>is,<space>you<space>issue<space>the<space>licenses<space>and<space>you<space>put<space>in<space>the<space>provision<space>that<space>if<space>there<space>is<space>a<space>deductible<space>imposed<space>upon<space>the<space>town,<space>a<space>cost<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>of<space>$50,000,<space>for<space>something<space>that<space>occurs,<space>that<space>that<space>is<space>a,<space>$42,500<space>of<space>that,<space>or<space>some<space>number,<space>is<space>payable<space>by<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Organization.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3123.84 1.68 I've<space>been<space>asking<space>and<space>they've<space>declined<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3125.68 0.88 Let<space>me<space>finish.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3126.72 3.76 They're<space>gonna<space>say,<space>"No".
2013_06_27BOS 1 3130.56 7.44 But<space>they<space>could<space>say,<space>if<space>we<space>reached<space>agreement,<space>they<space>could<space>say,<space>"We<space>don't<space>agree<space>with<space>that<space>condition.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3138.32 5.44 We're<space>going<space>to<space>accept<space>it,<space>not<space>file<space>any<space>litigation,<space>today,<space>over<space>it".
2013_06_27BOS 1 3143.92 8.80 But<space>accept<space>that<space>with<space>the<space>understanding<space>that<space>in<space>the<space>event<space>that<space>that<space>does<space>occur,<space>they<space>reserved<space>their<space>rights<space>to<space>challenge<space>that<space>provision.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3152.88 1.84 That's<space>a<space>possible<space>solution.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3154.80 3.36 What<space>we're<space>doing<space>is<space>--<space>-<space>If<space>I<space>can<space>interrupt<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3158.72 8.96 Owning<space>a<space>business,<space>I<space>have<space>this<space>thing<space>called<space>worker's<space>compensation,<space>liability,<space>and<space>unemployment<space>taxation.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3168.00 5.44 If<space>I<space>don't<space>pay<space>those,<space>they<space>send<space>a<space>notice<space>to<space>everybody<space>I<space>do<space>business<space>with<space>and<space>they<space>cancel<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3173.52 2.72 And<space>I'm<space>out<space>of<space>business<space>'til<space>it's<space>reinstated.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3177.12 1.68 I<space>can't<space>operate<space>without<space>insurance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3178.80 0.56 It's<space>against<space>the<space>law.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3179.68 3.36 I'm<space>not<space>saying<space>you<space>don't<space>--<space>I'm<space>not<space>saying<space>you<space>operate<space>without<space>insurance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3183.04 1.52 We<space>go<space>forward<space>with<space>insurance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3184.56 1.76 but<space>-<space>We<space>have<space>the<space>policy<space>in<space>effect.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3186.64 7.92 Policy<space>says<space>that<space>if<space>there's<space>a<space>claim<space>arising<space>out<space>of<space>a<space>stadium<space>event,<space>there's<space>gonna<space>be<space>a<space>$50,000<space>deductible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3194.56 2.56 What<space>I'm<space>saying<space>to<space>you<space>is<space>there<space>may<space>not<space>be<space>such<space>a<space>thing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3197.12 3.52 I<space>mean,<space>keep<space>in<space>mind<space>that<space>there<space>hasn't<space>been<space>very<space>many.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3200.88 4.96 And<space>even<space>with<space>Weldner-Dutton,<space>there's<space>no<space>clear<space>evidence<space>that<space>there<space>even<space>is<space>one<space>today.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3205.92 7.12 So<space>we're<space>talking<space>about<space>a<space>potentiality<space>that<space>experience<space>tells<space>us<space>doesn't<space>happen<space>very<space>much.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3213.12 7.68 We're<space>not,<space>Jim<space>and<space>I,<space>have<space>I<space>guess<space>in<space>the<space>year<space>that<space>I've<space>been<space>working<space>with<space>him<space>for<space>the<space>first<space>time,<space>we're<space>pretty<space>loud<space>with<space>one<space>another.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3220.88 0.40 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3221.36 3.84 We're<space>not<space>--<space>My<space>sense<space>is<space>we're<space>just<space>not<space>gonna<space>reach<space>agreement<space>on<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3225.60 4.40 What<space>I'm<space>saying<space>is<space>that<space>you<space>issue<space>your<space>licenses,<space>you<space>impose<space>the<space>condition.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3230.48 3.04 They<space>don't<space>agree<space>with<space>the<space>condition,<space>but<space>they<space>accept<space>the<space>license.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3233.60 4.72 They<space>don't<space>run<space>into<space>court<space>this<space>week<space>and<space>say<space>unlawful<space>condition.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3238.40 1.36 They<space>say,<space>we'll<space>accept<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3239.84 8.56 But<space>we're<space>going<space>to<space>reserve<space>our<space>rights<space>in<space>the<space>event<space>that<space>it<space>ever<space>comes<space>to<space>be<space>that<space>there<space>is<space>a<space>$50,000<space>deductible<space>that<space>we<space>have<space>to<space>face.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3248.56 3.60 At<space>that<space>time,<space>if<space>it<space>happens,<space>we<space>litigate<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3252.24 4.48 It's<space>a<space>simple<space>enough<space>thing<space>to<space>litigate<space>and<space>we<space>either<space>win<space>or<space>we<space>lose.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3257.84 7.44 But<space>it<space>only<space>is<space>for<space>so<space>long<space>as<space>we<space>can<space>get<space>ourselves<space>the<space>kind<space>of<space>policy<space>that<space>we<space>should<space>have<space>gotten<space>before<space>tonight.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3265.28 7.04 Okay,<space>but<space>Dick,<space>is<space>it<space>responsible<space>for<space>us<space>to<space>expose<space>the<space>taxpayer<space>to<space>that<space>sort<space>of<space>claim?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3272.48 2.00 I<space>don't<space>think<space>we<space>could<space>sleep<space>at<space>night.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3274.48 1.68 Well,<space>John,<space>John,<space>I'd<space>say<space>we.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3276.16 1.36 They<space>could<space>call<space>on<space>Monday<space>morning.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3277.60 2.16 Oh,<space>hold<space>on,<space>hold<space>on.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3279.84 1.44 You<space>have<space>been<space>exposed.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3281.84 6.48 You<space>have<space>been<space>exposed<space>to<space>a<space>claim<space>--<space>-<space>We're<space>trying<space>to<space>avoid<space>being<space>exposed<space>any<space>further,<space>Dick,<space>-<space>I<space>know.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3288.56 0.96 I<space>understand<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3289.52 11.92 But<space>you<space>have<space>been<space>exposed<space>to<space>much<space>more<space>money<space>than<space>that<space>and<space>whatever<space>you<space>do,<space>you're<space>going<space>to<space>have<space>some<space>exposure<space>for<space>a<space>deductible,<space>for<space>an<space>insurance<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3301.52 2.40 You<space>are,<space>you<space>always<space>have,<space>and<space>you<space>will,<space>again.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3304.16 2.80 What<space>that<space>number<space>is<space>we're<space>trying<space>to<space>limit.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3307.28 7.52 But<space>I<space>don't<space>think<space>you're<space>being<space>irresponsible<space>for<space>doing<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3315.68 16.96 One<space>might<space>argue<space>that<space>it's<space>more<space>responsible<space>to<space>have<space>a<space>$50,000<space>deductible<space>than<space>$7,500,<space>if<space>it's<space>for<space>a<space>short<space>period<space>of<space>time<space>and<space>we<space>can<space>go<space>to<space>an<space>occurrence<space>basis.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3333.12 3.76 Dick,<space>that<space>would<space>be<space>fine<space>if<space>it<space>was<space>an<space>occurrence<space>basis,<space>but<space>it's<space>not,<space>now.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3337.28 2.88 The<space>exposure<space>is<space>multiple<space>millions<space>of<space>dollars.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3340.16 0.16 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3340.40 3.20 And<space>I,<space>you<space>know,<space>we're<space>a<space>municipality.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3343.60 2.08 We're<space>not<space>a<space>for<space>profit<space>business.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3345.68 6.16 I<space>know<space>-<space>So<space>I<space>just<space>don't<space>know<space>how<space>you<space>could<space>expect<space>the<space>Board<space>to<space>accept<space>that<space>as<space>a<space>solution.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3352.00 2.56 I<space>don't<space>think<space>our<space>stock<space>holders<space>would<space>like<space>it<space>too<space>much.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3354.72 15.20 I<space>see<space>John<space>raising<space>the<space>--<space>-<space>I<space>have<space>not<space>spoken<space>with<space>Mr.<space>Norrick,<space>your<space>consultant,<space>but<space>if<space>the<space>Krafts<space>have<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage,<space>because<space>they<space>have<space>civil<space>rights<space>exposure,<space>so<space>I<space>assume<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Organization<space>would<space>have<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3370.00 10.08 Is<space>there<space>no<space>way<space>that<space>the<space>town<space>can<space>be<space>added<space>as<space>an<space>additional<space>insured<space>to<space>the<space>Kraft's<space>policy<space>that<space>provides<space>them<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage<space>as<space>the<space>named<space>insured?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3380.40 1.68 I've<space>asked<space>that<space>question<space>several<space>times.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3382.08 1.44 And<space>the<space>answer<space>has<space>always<space>been,<space>"No".
2013_06_27BOS 1 3384.00 8.32 Because<space>we<space>don't<space>have<space>control<space>over<space>your<space>officers,<space>we<space>cannot<space>extend<space>the<space>coverage<space>in<space>that<space>circumstance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3392.88 3.36 If<space>you'd<space>like<space>to<space>give<space>us<space>control<space>over<space>your<space>officers,<space>it<space>would<space>happen<space>automatically.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3396.24 2.32 But<space>I<space>don't<space>think<space>anyone<space>wants<space>that<space>to<space>happen.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3399.12 2.80 I<space>think<space>with<space>the<space>bylaws<space>we've<space>gone<space>over<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3402.08 1.04 That's<space>against<space>the<space>law.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3403.12 3.52 Couple<space>of<space>other<space>things<space>that<space>are<space>against<space>the<space>law,<space>the<space>procurement<space>thing<space>would<space>be<space>against<space>the<space>law.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3406.64 4.96 But<space>then<space>what<space>was<space>contemplated<space>when<space>the<space>Krafts<space>agreed<space>to<space>provide<space>the<space>town<space>with<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3411.60 0.16 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3411.76 4.08 Well,<space>I<space>think<space>now<space>you're<space>trying<space>to<space>position<space>me,<space>so<space>I<space>respectfully<space>will<space>decline<space>to<space>answer<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3415.84 1.60 Okay,<space>okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3418.00 5.76 Well<space>it's<space>like<space>well<space>it's<space>the<space>only<space>an<space>--<space>-<space>Anybody<space>else<space>got<space>any...
2013_06_27BOS 1 3423.84 1.68 So<space>we<space>never<space>had<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3425.52 2.32 Once<space>again,<space>I<space>think<space>you're<space>trying<space>to<space>position<space>me.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3427.92 0.40 I'm<space>not.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3428.32 2.00 No,<space>no,<space>I<space>don't<space>think<space>you<space>are.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3436.16 20.48 Well,<space>we<space>licensed<space>events<space>at<space>the<space>stadium<space>and<space>we<space>had<space>the<space>motion<space>attached<space>to<space>it<space>that<space>if<space>insurance<space>coverage<space>was<space>not,<space>I<space>mean,<space>if<space>this<space>insurance<space>issue,<space>was<space>not<space>cleared<space>by<space>June<space>30th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3456.80 9.84 then<space>the<space>town,<space>Foxborough,<space>has<space>the<space>right<space>to<space>take<space>back<space>that<space>license<space>and<space>not,<space>not<space>have,<space>you<space>know<space>not<space>license<space>that<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3466.64 2.40 The<space>license<space>is<space>null<space>and<space>void.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3469.44 3.52 So<space>it<space>was<space>very<space>clear.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3473.20 7.84 It<space>was<space>very<space>clear<space>when<space>we<space>did<space>vote<space>that,<space>that<space>that<space>was<space>a<space>possibility<space>if<space>this<space>insurance<space>issue<space>was<space>not<space>resolved.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3481.28 0.80 If<space>I<space>may.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3482.08 0.56 Mmhmm.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3483.28 7.60 The<space>license<space>conditions<space>require<space>us,<space>it's<space>quid<space>condition<space>three,<space>require<space>us<space>to<space>obtain<space>an<space>insurance<space>certificate<space>with<space>certain<space>details.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3491.20 10.56 We<space>have<space>obtained<space>that<space>insurance<space>certificate<space>and<space>we've<space>provided<space>it<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>and<space>we<space>have<space>received<space>no<space>word<space>back<space>that<space>the<space>insurance<space>certificate<space>is<space>acceptable<space>or<space>not<space>acceptable.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3501.84 10.72 So<space>at<space>this<space>point<space>in<space>time,<space>I<space>think<space>that<space>you're<space>right,<space>that<space>you<space>did<space>require<space>us<space>to<space>obtain<space>insurance<space>and<space>you<space>set<space>it<space>forth<space>in<space>the<space>terms<space>and<space>conditions<space>that<space>were<space>attached<space>to<space>the<space>license.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3512.64 5.68 And<space>we<space>think<space>that<space>we've<space>given<space>you<space>an<space>insurance<space>certificate<space>that<space>complies<space>with<space>what's<space>in<space>those<space>terms<space>and<space>conditions.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3518.56 9.92 We<space>think<space>that<space>what's<space>been<space>going<space>on<space>here<space>is<space>that<space>you're<space>looking<space>for<space>additional<space>coverage<space>because<space>of<space>the<space>change<space>in<space>deductible,<space>from<space>the<space>MIA<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3528.48 1.36 And<space>we're<space>happy<space>to<space>work<space>with<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3529.84 0.56 We<space>really<space>are.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3530.40 5.60 And<space>we're<space>really<space>trying<space>very,<space>very<space>hard<space>to<space>deliver<space>some<space>alternatives<space>to<space>help<space>you<space>on<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3536.08 2.88 But<space>that's<space>really<space>the<space>nature<space>of<space>what<space>we're<space>doing<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3539.28 5.92 It's<space>not<space>so<space>much<space>us<space>failing<space>to<space>obtain<space>the<space>coverage<space>that<space>we<space>can<space>reasonably<space>obtain.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3545.28 22.08 It's<space>that<space>the<space>time<space>for<space>obtaining<space>the<space>coverage<space>that<space>gives<space>you<space>the<space>right<space>risk<space>profile<space>is<space>just<space>closing<space>so<space>rapidly,<space>that's<space>--<space>-<space>No,<space>and<space>I<space>appreciate<space>that,<space>but<space>the<space>thing<space>is<space>we<space>cannot<space>let<space>the<space>town<space>be<space>on<space>the<space>hook<space>in<space>case<space>something<space>happens.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3567.44 10.56 So,<space>I<space>mean,<space>we<space>are<space>responsible,<space>and<space>I<space>don't<space>want<space>to<space>expose<space>the<space>town<space>of<space>Foxborough<space>to<space>the<space>$50,000<space>deductible<space>just<space>in<space>case<space>something<space>does<space>happen.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3579.12 13.04 It<space>seems<space>the<space>only<space>way<space>out<space>of<space>this<space>in<space>the<space>temporary<space>space<space>is,<space>and<space>I<space>think<space>the<space>Board<space>pretty<space>much<space>stands<space>together<space>on<space>this,<space>is<space>that<space>the<space>deductible<space>will<space>be<space>covered,<space>if<space>it<space>needs<space>to<space>be,<space>by<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Organization.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3592.24 1.20 I<space>think<space>it's<space>the<space>only<space>out.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3593.52 3.28 I<space>think<space>we<space>beat<space>it<space>up<space>pretty<space>good<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3596.80 3.52 I<space>don't<space>know<space>if<space>you<space>want<space>to<space>take<space>a<space>couple<space>of<space>minutes,<space>like<space>I<space>said,<space>and<space>take<space>a<space>recess<space>and<space>think<space>about<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3600.56 1.20 We<space>don't,<space>we<space>don't<space>have<space>to.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3602.00 1.92 We<space>cannot<space>accept<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3604.00 2.64 And<space>you're<space>asking<space>us<space>to<space>do<space>something<space>you<space>don't<space>accept.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3607.28 7.12 And<space>I<space>--<space>-<space>Mark,<space>could<space>I,<space>take<space>a<space>break<space>and<space>talk<space>to<space>Jim<space>for<space>a<space>minute<space>or<space>two.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3614.72 2.80 Yes<space>-<space>Take<space>a<space>break.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3617.60 3.52 Frank,<space>call<space>us<space>up<space>for<space>about<space>10<space>minutes,<space>please.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3621.84 2.56 Be<space>right<space>back.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3626.40 1.04 Okay,<space>we're<space>back.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3627.44 4.64 Thanks<space>for<space>waitin'.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3638.08 3.92 Dick,<space>do<space>you<space>have<space>anything<space>to<space>add?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3642.00 0.64 I<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3642.80 10.56 What<space>I<space>guess<space>we're<space>going<space>to<space>ask<space>you<space>to<space>do<space>is<space>to<space>put<space>this<space>over<space>until<space>July<space>3rd,<space>when,<space>hopefully<space>by<space>that<space>date<space>we'll<space>have<space>more<space>concrete<space>information<space>for<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3654.00 5.92 We<space>will<space>do<space>this<space>in<space>a<space>way<space>that<space>does<space>not<space>require<space>a<space>procurement<space>by<space>the<space>town.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3662.32 8.16 So<space>we<space>avoid<space>any<space>30B<space>issues<space>or<space>we'll<space>do<space>it<space>in<space>a<space>way<space>that<space>is<space>in<space>compliance<space>with<space>chapter<space>30B<space>depending<space>on<space>the<space>numbers.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3670.48 1.92 And<space>do<space>you<space>realize<space>that<space>July<space>3rd<space>is...
2013_06_27BOS 1 3672.72 1.20 Wednesday<space>before<space>July<space>4th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3673.92 2.64 Well,<space>no,<space>it's<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>-<space>Did<space>you<space>say<space>you're<space>not<space>here<space>the<space>3rd?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3676.64 1.92 Well,<space>I'm<space>not<space>supposed<space>to<space>be,<space>but<space>if<space>I<space>have<space>to<space>be,<space>I<space>will<space>be.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3678.56 0.32 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3686.32 1.44 I<space>mean,<space>there's<space>nothing<space>they<space>can<space>do<space>about<space>the<space>dates.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3687.76 1.76 Well,<space>I<space>understand<space>that,<space>but<space>what<space>time<space>are<space>you<space>planning<space>to<space>have<space>this<space>meeting?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3689.52 1.76 'Cause<space>it's<space>not<space>gonna<space>be<space>a<space>7:00<space>or<space>8:00<space>meeting.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3691.28 10.40 It's<space>going<space>to<space>be<space>more<space>like<space>a<space>4:00<space>or<space>5:00<space>or<space>6:00<space>meeting<space>because<space>it's<space>going<space>to<space>go<space>two<space>hours<space>and<space>--<space>-<space>Mark,<space>is<space>5:00<space>okay<space>with<space>the<space>Board?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3701.76 1.36 Is<space>--<space>-<space>5:00<space>okay<space>with<space>the<space>Board?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3703.12 0.64 That's<space>fine.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3703.84 1.92 Jim,<space>are<space>you<space>here<space>or<space>are<space>you<space>gone?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3705.92 0.64 I'm<space>here<space>now.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3707.04 7.04 Well,<space>you<space>know<space>--<space>-<space>Let's<space>set<space>it<space>for<space>5:00.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3714.08 15.12 Let's<space>just<space>--<space>But<space>can<space>you<space>give<space>us<space>a<space>--<space>-<space>maybe<space>not<space>-<space>-a<space>status<space>quo,<space>if<space>you're<space>not<space>gonna<space>be<space>prepared<space>for<space>the<space>meeting,<space>we'll<space>just<space>--<space>-<space>I<space>don't<space>want<space>to<space>go<space>and<space>come<space>in<space>back<space>on<space>the<space>3rd<space>without<space>having<space>an<space>understanding<space>of<space>what<space>direction<space>we<space>might<space>be<space>thinking<space>of<space>going.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3729.20 7.36 I<space>mean,<space>in<space>order<space>to<space>avoid<space>the<space>exposure<space>of<space>$50,000<space>per<space>claim.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3737.84 0.64 I<space>got<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3738.48 0.64 I<space>told<space>him.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3739.12 1.20 He<space>can't<space>here<space>til<space>5:30,<space>6:00.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3740.32 0.80 Who<space>can't<space>be?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3741.76 1.20 The<space>guy<space>filming.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3743.28 1.28 We<space>don't<space>even<space>know<space>where<space>we're<space>going<space>to<space>be.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3744.56 1.28 We<space>don't<space>know<space>if<space>we<space>have<space>the<space>room.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3745.92 4.88 We<space>don't<space>know<space>--<space>-<space>Who's<space>saying<space>the<space>FCA<space>wouldn't<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>be<space>ready<space>for<space>us<space>til<space>6:30.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3750.96 0.88 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3752.32 0.64 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3753.28 2.56 And<space>we<space>don't<space>even<space>know<space>where<space>we<space>could<space>have<space>it,<space>yet.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3759.44 1.84 There's<space>no<space>way<space>I<space>can<space>come<space>in<space>on<space>Wednesday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3761.28 0.24 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3761.52 0.64 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3762.56 1.92 So<space>Town<space>Hall's<space>open,<space>Randy?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3764.48 0.32 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3765.28 1.92 Does<space>it<space>have<space>to<space>be<space>recorded?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3767.68 0.56 Does<space>it?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3768.24 3.04 Well,<space>I<space>think<space>that<space>people<space>deserve<space>the<space>right<space>to<space>see<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3771.28 2.80 I<space>mean<space>--<space>-<space>Yeah<space>but<space>if<space>there's<space>not<space>--<space>-<space>But<space>if<space>it's<space>posted,<space>they<space>can<space>come.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3774.08 12.56 Yeah,<space>well,<space>you<space>know<space>what,<space>then<space>we're<space>gonna<space>have<space>people<space>come<space>and<space>occupy<space>the<space>room,<space>Cindy,<space>it'd<space>be<space>over<space>70,<space>say<space>70<space>people,<space>and<space>then<space>you<space>can't<space>have<space>the<space>meeting<space>anyways<space>-<space>Bob<space>-<space>Yeah<space>-<space>6:00<space>before<space>the<space>4th<space>of<space>July<space>is<space>going<space>to<space>be<space>five<space>people.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3786.72 1.92 Five<space>people<space>-<space>Nobody's<space>gonna<space>be<space>there<space>but<space>us.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3788.64 2.64 But<space>actually,<space>Jenny,<space>you<space>know,<space>I<space>know,<space>I<space>appreciate<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3791.28 5.12 But<space>after<space>some<space>of<space>the<space>conversation<space>we've<space>had<space>here<space>tonight,<space>I<space>think<space>we<space>might<space>see<space>35<space>police<space>officers<space>there.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3796.56 3.44 Yeah<space>-<space>Could<space>we<space>circle<space>back<space>to<space>the<space>--<space>Let's<space>--<space>-<space>Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3800.00 8.16 I<space>mean,<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>solutions<space>that<space>we<space>discussed<space>was<space>not<space>having<space>the<space>police<space>other<space>than<space>what's<space>been<space>done<space>all<space>these<space>years,<space>continue<space>with<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3808.40 1.76 So<space>that<space>that's<space>not<space>what<space>we're<space>talking<space>about.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3810.56 7.92 We're<space>--<space>the<space>reason<space>to<space>go<space>to<space>July<space>3rd<space>is<space>we<space>hope<space>we'll,<space>hopefully<space>we'll<space>have<space>more<space>concrete<space>information<space>about<space>the<space>type<space>of<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3818.88 19.20 We<space>will<space>do<space>it<space>within<space>the<space>procurement<space>law,<space>and<space>by<space>that<space>I<space>mean,<space>we're<space>not<space>gonna<space>purchase,<space>the<space>town<space>will<space>not<space>be<space>expending<space>its<space>funds<space>for<space>this<space>policy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3838.40 11.44 And<space>we<space>will<space>try<space>to<space>address,<space>I<space>mean,<space>the<space>whole<space>goal<space>is<space>to<space>try<space>to<space>address<space>not<space>having<space>the<space>town<space>exposed<space>to<space>multiple<space>$50,000<space>deductibles.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3852.16 1.52 Randy,<space>would<space>you<space>like<space>to<space>speak?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3854.48 9.60 How<space>do<space>we,<space>I<space>thought<space>I<space>heard<space>Mr.<space>Cobery<space>say<space>that<space>they<space>weren't<space>allowed<space>to<space>purchase<space>insurance<space>for<space>that<space>on<space>the<space>town's<space>behalf.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3867.28 6.24 The<space>acqu<space>--<space>we<space>are<space>not<space>going<space>to<space>purchase,<space>it's<space>not<space>going<space>to<space>use<space>any<space>public<space>funds<space>for<space>this<space>acquisition.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3874.00 1.92 We<space>get<space>a<space>gift.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3876.88 6.64 We<space>have<space>to<space>work<space>those<space>--<space>-<space>Yeah,<space>but,<space>so<space>if<space>it<space>is<space>a<space>gift,<space>doesn't<space>it<space>have<space>to<space>also<space>be<space>accepted<space>by<space>the<space>Board<space>of<space>Selectmen?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3884.56 7.44 Look,<space>there's<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>things<space>that<space>have<space>to<space>be<space>figured<space>out<space>and<space>ascertained<space>and<space>determined<space>between<space>now<space>and<space>July<space>3rd,<space>okay?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3892.40 2.24 You<space>can't<space>do<space>that<space>sitting<space>here<space>tonight.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3894.80 1.60 We<space>have<space>a<space>procurement<space>issue.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3896.56 6.32 If<space>we<space>can't<space>address<space>it,<space>then<space>we<space>won't,<space>but<space>give<space>us<space>the<space>opportunity<space>to<space>do<space>so,<space>you<space>know,<space>right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3903.60 3.12 We've<space>got<space>a<space>commitment<space>that<space>they'll<space>pay<space>for<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3906.88 3.44 We<space>just<space>have<space>to<space>figure<space>out<space>a<space>way<space>that<space>they<space>can<space>do<space>so<space>legally.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3910.56 3.12 So,<space>we're<space>not<space>looking<space>to<space>a<space>procurement.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3913.68 0.56 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3914.72 1.76 Anybody<space>have<space>anything<space>to<space>add?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3917.20 4.32 If<space>that<space>is<space>a<space>scenario<space>that<space>works,<space>so<space>be<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3921.76 1.04 We'll<space>go<space>in<space>that<space>direction.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3922.80 9.84 But<space>just<space>so<space>I'm<space>clear,<space>we<space>have<space>MIA<space>coverage<space>up<space>until<space>June<space>30th<space>under<space>the<space>7,500<space>per<space>claim.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3932.96 2.00 We've<space>already<space>signed<space>and<space>sent<space>in<space>money.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3935.20 1.28 I<space>don't<space>know<space>about<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3936.56 4.24 We<space>have<space>the<space>new<space>coverage<space>starting<space>July<space>1st.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3941.12 3.20 So<space>we're<space>covered<space>throughout.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3944.96 23.20 Is<space>there<space>an<space>opportunity<space>for<space>either<space>the<space>coverage<space>that<space>ends<space>on<space>June<space>30th,<space>to<space>extend<space>it<space>another<space>month<space>and<space>work<space>out<space>there<space>where<space>it's<space>not<space>a<space>procurement<space>issue,<space>it's<space>less<space>than<space>10%<space>of<space>a<space>change,<space>and<space>you<space>can<space>extend<space>it<space>until<space>July<space>30th<space>on<space>the<space>existing,<space>or<space>take<space>the<space>coverage<space>that's<space>gonna<space>start<space>on<space>July<space>1st<space>and<space>change<space>it<space>for<space>the<space>first<space>two<space>months.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3968.32 15.92 So<space>if<space>the<space>premiums<space>are<space>going<space>to<space>come<space>up,<space>the<space>deductibles<space>will<space>come<space>down<space>and<space>that<space>one<space>month,<space>or<space>two<space>months,<space>bring<space>it<space>through<space>August,<space>would<space>be<space>something<space>that<space>we<space>addressed<space>on<space>a<space>cash<space>value<space>--<space>-<space>Yeah,<space>I<space>mean,<space>I<space>asked<space>that<space>and<space>I'll<space>ask<space>it<space>again.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3984.32 4.56 But<space>I've<space>already<space>asked<space>and<space>been<space>told<space>not,<space>those<space>questions.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3988.96 1.52 You<space>asked<space>it<space>to<space>MIA?
2013_06_27BOS 1 3990.56 0.40 Yes.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3991.60 5.04 In<space>the<space>conference<space>call<space>that<space>we<space>had<space>with<space>Joe<space>Callahan<space>the<space>other<space>day,<space>that<space>was<space>addressed<space>and<space>he<space>said,<space>"No".
2013_06_27BOS 1 3996.64 0.24 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 3996.88 4.96 At<space>least<space>the<space>second<space>part<space>of<space>that,<space>whether<space>they<space>would<space>give<space>us<space>a<space>30<space>day<space>policy,<space>I<space>don't<space>know.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4001.92 0.32 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4002.24 0.40 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4002.96 7.92 But<space>would<space>they<space>give<space>us<space>the<space>75<space>but<space>at<space>a<space>high<space>premium<space>for<space>two<space>months?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4010.96 3.36 No.<space>He<space>said<space>they<space>wouldn't<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4019.68 3.04 Thank<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4023.28 23.44 I<space>have<space>a<space>question<space>about<space>the<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage<space>after<space>July<space>1st,<space>and<space>the<space>certificates<space>that<space>we<space>have<space>received,<space>that<space>we<space>have<space>the<space>conditions<space>on<space>that<space>everything<space>has<space>to<space>be<space>acceptable<space>to<space>the<space>town<space>and<space>there's<space>language<space>that's<space>different<space>on<space>here<space>from<space>prior<space>years'<space>certificates.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4046.96 10.80 And<space>I<space>don't<space>see<space>the<space>language<space>that<space>says<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage<space>on<space>here,<space>so<space>I<space>just<space>wanted<space>to<space>ask<space>where<space>that<space>comes<space>in<space>on<space>this<space>policy,<space>on<space>this<space>binder.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4058.72 1.68 I'm<space>asking<space>Jim.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4060.72 2.48 I<space>don't<space>know<space>what<space>document<space>you<space>have<space>in<space>front<space>of<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4063.28 5.20 This<space>is<space>the<space>document<space>that<space>comes<space>with<space>the<space>applications<space>from<space>the<space>stadium<space>for<space>the<space>license,<space>the<space>certificate<space>of<space>liability.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4068.56 4.72 It's<space>the<space>binder<space>that<space>you<space>provided<space>with<space>your<space>application.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4075.44 0.88 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4076.88 1.84 That<space>was<space>on<space>there<space>before?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4079.20 4.48 This<space>is<space>part<space>of,<space>this<space>is<space>pulled<space>from<space>the<space>Country<space>Fest<space>application.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4083.84 0.96 So,<space>the<space>new<space>one.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4084.80 0.56 The<space>new<space>one.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4085.44 13.76 Was<space>it<space>updated<space>before,<space>from<space>the<space>previous<space>--<space>-<space>This<space>was<space>part<space>of<space>the<space>application<space>that<space>we<space>said<space>we<space>would<space>license<space>subject<space>to<space>if<space>we<space>have<space>--<space>-<space>Understood,<space>but<space>I<space>--<space>-<space>It's<space>different<space>from<space>last<space>year's<space>-<space>Was<space>that<space>on<space>there<space>before<space>and<space>then<space>got<space>taken<space>away?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4099.20 0.80 Is<space>that<space>what<space>you're<space>saying?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4100.24 2.16 I<space>did<space>see<space>it<space>there<space>before.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4103.12 3.04 Jim<space>is<space>not<space>acknowledging<space>whether<space>it<space>existed<space>or<space>not.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4106.24 6.80 So,<space>I<space>want<space>to<space>know<space>going<space>forward<space>that<space>it,<space>does<space>it<space>exist<space>now?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4124.08 10.32 And<space>then<space>I'd<space>also<space>like<space>to<space>ask<space>John,<space>if<space>you<space>could<space>review<space>the<space>prior<space>binders<space>to<space>this<space>binder,<space>just<space>if<space>that's<space>something<space>--<space>-<space>That<space>we've<space>got<space>on<space>there?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4134.48 1.12 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4138.00 3.76 For<space>these<space>events<space>that<space>we're<space>talking<space>about<space>right<space>now.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4142.64 1.36 Does<space>that<space>make<space>sense?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4144.00 0.88 Mmhmm.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4145.92 3.36 Okay,<space>thank<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4151.76 11.52 I<space>will<space>ask<space>Mike<space>Norrick,<space>if<space>you<space>don't<space>mind<space>to<space>tell<space>me<space>where<space>that's<space>in<space>this<space>certificate,<space>there's<space>a<space>new<space>certificate<space>that<space>we<space>provided<space>that<space>I<space>can<space>certainly<space>send<space>over<space>to<space>you,<space>as<space>well.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4163.28 0.88 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4164.16 4.16 That's<space>been<space>sent<space>over<space>--<space>-<space>since<space>-<space>--<space>since<space>the<space>application<space>process?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4168.40 7.04 Yes,<space>we,<space>traditionally,<space>June<space>30th<space>is<space>the<space>time<space>when<space>insurance<space>policies<space>roll<space>over<space>and<space>ours<space>does<space>as<space>well.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4175.44 5.92 So<space>we<space>sent<space>you<space>a<space>new<space>certificate<space>to<space>show<space>that<space>we<space>have<space>insurance<space>coverage<space>effective<space>July<space>1st.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4181.92 3.60 Just<space>sent<space>that<space>in<space>in<space>the<space>past...Tuesday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4186.24 4.16 So<space>I<space>will<space>tell<space>you<space>this,<space>I<space>don't<space>read<space>these<space>insurance<space>tributes<space>very<space>often.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4190.40 3.04 I<space>apologize<space>for<space>that,<space>but<space>we<space>do<space>have<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4193.44 2.64 Where<space>it<space>shows<space>up<space>on<space>that<space>certificate,<space>I<space>don't<space>know.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4196.16 3.20 And<space>I<space>will<space>ask<space>Mike<space>to<space>point<space>out<space>to<space>me<space>where<space>it<space>is.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4199.92 11.04 The<space>issue<space>that<space>John<space>was<space>raising<space>before<space>is,<space>is<space>it<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage<space>that<space>covers<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Group<space>and<space>its<space>employees,<space>etc.?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4210.96 3.60 Or<space>does<space>that<space>coverage<space>extend<space>to<space>the<space>town?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4214.72 5.60 And<space>it's<space>a<space>very<space>nuanced<space>answer<space>that<space>would<space>probably<space>bore<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4220.32 1.68 And<space>I<space>--<space>-<space>Not<space>really.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4222.16 5.20 That's<space>okay<space>--<space>-<space>We<space>need<space>to<space>know<space>because<space>it's<space>just<space>a<space>black<space>and<space>white<space>question.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4227.36 10.16 Jim,<space>could<space>you<space>also<space>ask<space>him,<space>say,<space>I<space>looked<space>at<space>that<space>certificate<space>and<space>unless<space>the<space>new<space>one<space>is<space>different,<space>that<space>covers<space>X<space>of<space>the<space>named<space>insured<space>which<space>would<space>be<space>the<space>Kraft<space>Group.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4237.76 5.84 So,<space>that,<space>to<space>me,<space>would<space>exclude<space>actions<space>of<space>the<space>police,<space>the<space>Foxborough<space>police.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4243.60 4.24 So<space>that<space>doesn't<space>really<space>cover<space>what<space>we're<space>talking<space>about<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4248.00 1.04 And<space>that's<space>different.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4249.76 0.96 Please,<space>allow<space>me.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4250.80 12.64 I'm<space>not<space>an<space>insurance<space>lawyer<space>by<space>any<space>stretch<space>of<space>the<space>imagination,<space>but<space>what<space>I<space>understand<space>from<space>talking<space>to<space>Mike<space>Norrick<space>in<space>particular,<space>but<space>also<space>some<space>other<space>people<space>is<space>basically<space>the<space>following.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4263.84 7.92 We<space>have<space>fairly<space>robust<space>insurance<space>coverage<space>given<space>the<space>nature<space>of<space>our<space>fairly<space>diverse<space>business<space>portfolio.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4271.92 6.96 And<space>we<space>have<space>general<space>liability<space>insurance,<space>property<space>insurance,<space>all<space>those<space>different<space>things<space>that<space>you'd<space>expect.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4279.12 6.24 Within<space>the<space>liability<space>portion<space>of<space>our<space>insurance<space>coverage,<space>we<space>have<space>civil<space>rights<space>coverage.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4286.16 39.04 We<space>also<space>have<space>as<space>part<space>of<space>our<space>overall<space>insurance<space>regime<space>standard<space>endorsements<space>that<space>relate<space>to,<space>among<space>other<space>things,<space>additional<space>insurance<space>coverage<space>and<space>our<space>endorsement<space>that<space>deals<space>with<space>additional<space>insured<space>coverage<space>says<space>in<space>essence,<space>please,<space>once<space>again,<space>I'm<space>well<space>outside<space>of<space>my<space>expertise<space>here,<space>but<space>what<space>I<space>understand<space>it<space>says<space>is<space>as<space>an<space>additional<space>insured,<space>you<space>are<space>covered<space>in<space>the<space>event<space>that<space>we<space>or<space>people<space>who<space>work<space>for<space>us<space>or<space>over<space>whom<space>we<space>have<space>control,<space>do<space>something<space>that<space>generates<space>liability<space>or<space>the<space>threat<space>of<space>liability.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4325.28 11.28 So,<space>a<space>good<space>example<space>of<space>this<space>is<space>when<space>we<space>are<space>the<space>tenant<space>and<space>the<space>landlord,<space>who<space>is<space>purely<space>passive,<space>doesn't<space>do<space>anything<space>but<space>leases<space>us<space>space.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4337.04 19.52 When<space>our<space>employees<space>do<space>something<space>that<space>generates<space>liability<space>and<space>the<space>landlord<space>gets<space>sued<space>as<space>part<space>of<space>that,<space>even<space>though<space>the<space>landlord<space>has<space>done<space>nothing,<space>because<space>they<space>are<space>our<space>additional<space>insured<space>in<space>that<space>case,<space>our<space>coverage<space>is<space>extended<space>to<space>them<space>because<space>it's<space>an<space>action<space>or<space>omission<space>of<space>our<space>employee<space>that<space>gave<space>rise<space>to<space>that<space>coverage.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4356.72 5.44 So<space>we<space>have<space>that<space>type<space>of<space>coverage<space>and<space>it's<space>routinely<space>extended<space>to<space>our<space>additional<space>insureds.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4362.24 1.84 And<space>you<space>are<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>additional<space>insureds.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4364.08 1.76 So<space>you<space>have<space>that<space>level<space>of<space>coverage.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4366.48 12.00 Where<space>the<space>great<space>minds<space>of<space>this<space>table<space>diverge<space>is<space>whether<space>our<space>coverage<space>should<space>extend<space>to<space>also<space>include<space>the<space>acts<space>or<space>omissions<space>of<space>your<space>employees.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4378.64 4.80 And<space>our<space>policy<space>does<space>not,<space>as<space>far<space>as<space>I<space>know,<space>does<space>not<space>go<space>that<space>far.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4383.52 6.72 And<space>that's<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>lengthy<space>discussions<space>that<space>John<space>and<space>I<space>have<space>had<space>over<space>the<space>past<space>six<space>months.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4390.56 1.04 Yeah,<space>I<space>got<space>one,<space>too.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4391.60 1.76 All<space>right,<space>you<space>all<space>set,<space>Paul?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4395.04 2.48 What's<space>the<space>next<space>event<space>after<space>the<space>6th?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4398.08 2.16 Bon<space>Jovi<space>on<space>the<space>12th,<space>-<space>on<space>the<space>12th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4400.24 0.64 Or<space>the<space>20th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4400.88 2.80 The<space>20th<space>-<space>The<space>20th<space>-<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>if<space>--<space>-<space>So,<space>it's<space>not<space>the<space>12th?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4403.68 14.80 No,<space>it's<space>the<space>20th<space>-<space>I've<space>heard<space>--<space>-<space>Bon<space>Jovi's<space>the<space>20th,<space>Swift's<space>the<space>26th,<space>27th<space>--<space>-<space>I've<space>heard<space>over<space>and<space>over<space>again<space>that<space>there's<space>never<space>any<space>situation<space>at<space>any<space>soccer<space>games,<space>that<space>they're<space>very<space>low<space>key.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4418.48 4.64 They<space>are<space>-<space>very<space>well<space>under<space>20,000<space>people,<space>typically<space>around<space>15.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4423.28 2.96 It's<space>a<space>very<space>uneventful<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4426.48 3.28 So<space>why<space>don't<space>you<space>use<space>--<space>-<space>You<space>should<space>be<space>in<space>marketing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4429.76 5.04 Mark<space>does<space>not<space>go<space>into<space>marketing<space>-<space>Nobody<space>wants<space>to<space>--<space>-<space>I'm<space>trying<space>to<space>make<space>a<space>point<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4434.80 1.92 Comes<space>with<space>us<space>for<space>sweep.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4436.96 0.96 Mark,<space>why<space>don't<space>you?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4437.92 3.12 Can<space>we<space>just<space>work<space>-<space>I<space>just<space>wanna<space>say<space>--<space>-<space>and<space>come<space>back<space>on<space>the<space>3rd<space>of<space>July?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4441.20 3.12 No,<space>I<space>really<space>don't<space>want<space>to.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4444.88 5.12 Because<space>you're<space>interrupting<space>everybody's<space>family<space>lives<space>here<space>and<space>it's<space>becoming<space>troublesome.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4450.08 3.28 And<space>everybody<space>here's<space>got<space>a<space>family<space>and<space>they've<space>got<space>things<space>they<space>wanna<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4453.36 12.00 And<space>to<space>over-dedicated<space>yourself<space>during<space>that<space>causes<space>situations<space>with<space>your<space>family,<space>and<space>it's<space>not<space>fair<space>to<space>the<space>spouse,<space>not<space>fair<space>to<space>the<space>kids<space>who've<space>been<space>looking<space>forward<space>to<space>things<space>for<space>a<space>long<space>time,<space>including<space>your<space>own<space>insurer.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4465.84 8.08 My<space>solution<space>here<space>that<space>I<space>wanna<space>see<space>happen<space>is<space>you<space>say,<space>you've<space>all<space>stated<space>soccer<space>events,<space>we<space>should<space>just<space>have<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4473.92 2.24 Don't<space>worry<space>about<space>the<space>license<space>it's<space>a<space>soccer<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4476.24 2.08 There's<space>never<space>any<space>issues<space>at<space>'em.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4478.96 7.84 Free<space>up<space>to<space>4th<space>for<space>everybody,<space>pony<space>up<space>the<space>deductible<space>for<space>that<space>one<space>event,<space>gives<space>you<space>another<space>14<space>days<space>to<space>work<space>through<space>this.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4486.88 5.52 If<space>everybody<space>says<space>there's<space>not<space>ever<space>any<space>problem<space>at<space>it,<space>cover<space>the<space>deductible<space>for<space>that<space>one<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4492.48 4.16 It<space>gives<space>you<space>another<space>four<space>--<space>more<space>than<space>14<space>days<space>to<space>come<space>through<space>with<space>a<space>plan<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4496.80 1.60 That's<space>all<space>you<space>gotta<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4498.88 1.92 Unfortunately,<space>we<space>can't<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4500.80 1.36 Well,<space>you<space>can<space>ask<space>your<space>boss.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4502.24 2.88 Yeah,<space>no<space>believe<space>me,<space>I<space>hear<space>from<space>him<space>quite<space>a<space>bit.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4506.00 5.28 Because,<space>you<space>know<space>what<space>it's<space>just,<space>I<space>don't<space>see<space>it<space>happening<space>any<space>other<space>way.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4511.28 4.00 It<space>gives<space>you<space>more<space>time,<space>your<space>pressurin'<space>everybody<space>here<space>on<space>the<space>Board.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4515.52 1.20 I<space>mean,<space>you<space>really<space>are.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4516.80 1.76 You<space>got,<space>Jenny<space>has<space>plans.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4518.64 1.76 Jim's<space>away<space>for<space>the<space>week.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4520.88 1.68 I'm<space>gone<space>on<space>Friday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4522.72 3.12 You<space>know,<space>if<space>my<space>boss<space>asked<space>me<space>to<space>work,<space>I<space>tell<space>him<space>no.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4526.00 0.96 You<space>know<space>what<space>I'm<space>saying?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4527.04 2.24 So<space>I<space>just<space>think<space>it's<space>an<space>unfair<space>thing<space>to<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4529.28 10.16 I<space>understand<space>the<space>urgency<space>in<space>your<space>aspect,<space>but<space>to<space>pony<space>up<space>the<space>deductible<space>for<space>one<space>soccer<space>event,<space>to<space>come<space>through<space>a<space>debt,<space>and<space>free<space>up<space>everybody,<space>give<space>everybody<space>ample<space>time<space>to<space>get<space>this<space>straightened<space>out.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4539.44 2.48 It<space>doesn't<space>seem<space>like<space>a<space>lot<space>if<space>ya<space>ask<space>me.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4544.56 5.04 If<space>I<space>may,<space>I<space>mean<space>--<space>-<space>Yeah<space>-<space>We<space>just<space>can't<space>do<space>that<space>is<space>what<space>it<space>comes<space>down<space>to.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4549.84 2.72 And<space>I<space>hope<space>you<space>can<space>understand<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4552.56 6.32 I<space>certainly<space>understand<space>the<space>inconvenience<space>and<space>I<space>don't<space>want<space>anyone<space>here<space>to<space>be<space>inconvenienced<space>by<space>any<space>stretch<space>of<space>the<space>imagination.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4558.96 2.88 If<space>I<space>could<space>figure<space>out<space>another<space>way,<space>I<space>certainly<space>would.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4562.08 8.00 But,<space>unfortunately,<space>we<space>just,<space>as<space>relatively<space>calm<space>as<space>the<space>soccer<space>matches<space>are,<space>we<space>just<space>are<space>not<space>in<space>the<space>insurance<space>business<space>is<space>what<space>it<space>comes<space>down<space>to.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4570.16 2.64 But<space>we<space>are<space>insured.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4573.04 9.44 So,<space>if<space>all<space>you<space>do<space>is<space>cover<space>the<space>deductible,<space>in<space>writing,<space>for<space>that<space>one<space>event,<space>it<space>gives<space>everybody<space>almost<space>three<space>weeks<space>to<space>get<space>through<space>this.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4582.64 1.68 I<space>don't<space>think<space>it's<space>a<space>lot<space>to<space>ask.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4584.40 3.44 If<space>you<space>look<space>at<space>the<space>history<space>of<space>the<space>events,<space>have<space>you<space>ever<space>had<space>any<space>problems?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4587.92 5.20 'Cause<space>I'm<space>about<space>to<space>make<space>a<space>motion<space>of<space>that<space>aspect<space>to<space>the<space>Board,<space>and<space>I'm<space>hoping<space>they<space>go<space>with<space>me<space>on<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4593.36 2.96 Because<space>I<space>really<space>don't<space>want<space>this<space>to<space>go<space>into<space>next<space>week.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4596.72 2.08 I<space>just<space>don't<space>think,<space>I<space>think<space>it's<space>a<space>lot<space>to<space>ask.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4598.88 1.76 We've<space>done<space>it<space>before<space>on<space>Christmas.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4600.64 4.48 We've<space>had<space>to<space>have<space>major<space>meetings<space>the<space>two<space>days<space>after<space>Christmas.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4605.84 6.00 It's<space>not<space>general<space>policy<space>for<space>the<space>Board<space>to<space>just<space>make<space>special<space>meetings<space>for<space>everybody.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4612.08 3.68 This<space>Board<space>has<space>been<space>ample<space>to<space>everybody<space>that's<space>ever<space>asked<space>for<space>one.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4615.76 4.48 And<space>I'm<space>now<space>asking<space>you<space>just<space>to<space>go<space>back<space>to<space>your<space>boss<space>and<space>ask<space>him<space>a<space>question.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4620.56 0.88 That's<space>all.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4621.60 1.52 I<space>don't<space>think<space>it's<space>too<space>much<space>to<space>ask.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4623.12 7.12 It<space>gives<space>everybody<space>more<space>time,<space>it's<space>one<space>event,<space>the<space>most<space>under-costing<space>event<space>of<space>them<space>all,<space>right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4630.24 2.08 There's<space>hardly<space>any<space>costs<space>at<space>'em.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4632.56 0.96 Hardly<space>any?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4633.60 0.32 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4634.08 1.68 It's<space>the<space>same<space>group<space>of<space>people.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4636.00 5.60 is<space>not<space>a<space>concert<space>kind<space>of<space>atmosphere<space>where<space>it's<space>a<space>mixed<space>group<space>of<space>people<space>that<space>go<space>there<space>once<space>a<space>year<space>or<space>whatever.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4641.92 2.00 It's<space>a<space>different<space>entity<space>of<space>people.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4644.08 1.28 So<space>that's<space>where<space>I<space>am.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4645.36 1.28 What<space>do<space>you<space>think,<space>John?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4646.88 2.00 Well,<space>you're<space>asking<space>them<space>to<space>self-insure.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4648.96 1.76 No,<space>I'm<space>not<space>asking<space>them<space>to<space>self-insure.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4650.72 2.24 I'm<space>asking<space>them<space>to<space>pay<space>the<space>deductible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4652.96 1.28 You're<space>looking<space>for<space>a<space>solution.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4654.40 3.36 If<space>we<space>wait<space>until<space>the<space>5th,<space>I'm<space>not<space>sure<space>what's<space>gonna<space>come<space>out<space>of<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4657.76 0.96 It's<space>unknown.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4658.88 0.40 Nothing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4659.36 2.40 I<space>can<space>guarantee<space>right<space>now,<space>nothing'll<space>come<space>out<space>of<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4661.92 1.68 And<space>we're<space>talking<space>about<space>the<space>3rd,<space>not<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4663.60 1.36 Now,<space>we're<space>talking<space>about<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4664.96 0.88 Oh<space>man.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4666.08 4.16 You<space>know,<space>I<space>wouldn't<space>be<space>certain<space>that<space>nothing'll<space>come<space>out<space>of<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4670.24 1.60 I<space>think<space>something<space>might.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4673.44 3.84 I<space>mean,<space>I<space>understand<space>the<space>inconvenience<space>to<space>the<space>Board.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4677.84 4.56 I<space>wouldn't<space>be<space>suggesting<space>we<space>go<space>to<space>the<space>3rd<space>if<space>I<space>thought<space>it<space>was<space>a<space>waste<space>of<space>time.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4682.56 2.24 Right<space>-<space>But<space>I<space>can<space>see<space>the<space>inconvenience<space>to<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4684.88 1.52 It's<space>not<space>just<space>the<space>Board.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4686.48 1.92 It's<space>a<space>lot<space>more<space>people<space>than<space>just<space>the<space>Board.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4688.40 1.92 It's<space>cable<space>access,<space>it's<space>the<space>town.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4690.40 6.16 I<space>can<space>tell<space>me,<space>it's<space>the<space>finance<space>department,<space>it's<space>all<space>the<space>people<space>that<space>work<space>for<space>the<space>town,<space>it's<space>trickling<space>down.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4696.64 3.44 I<space>just<space>don't<space>see<space>that<space>there's<space>a<space>big<space>issue<space>with<space>that,<space>for<space>that<space>one<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4700.08 1.76 And<space>I'm<space>gonna<space>be<space>adamant<space>about<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4701.92 1.52 And<space>if<space>you<space>allowed<space>me<space>to<space>be<space>adamant.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4703.84 4.00 Those<space>events<space>are<space>relatively,<space>relatively<space>calm.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4708.96 8.56 Another<space>way<space>to<space>address<space>this<space>issue<space>is<space>for<space>you<space>to<space>lessen<space>the<space>police<space>detail<space>requirement<space>at<space>that<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4717.60 3.68 Just<space>help<space>me<space>please<space>get<space>that<space>ball<space>game<space>now.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4722.16 8.48 Yeah,<space>you<space>could<space>say,<space>for<space>that<space>one<space>event,<space>we<space>are<space>gonna<space>allow<space>the<space>stadium<space>to<space>provide<space>their<space>own<space>security.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4730.72 4.00 And<space>if<space>something<space>happens,<space>we<space>call<space>Chief<space>O'Leary<space>and<space>get<space>people<space>to<space>come<space>down.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4735.36 1.28 I<space>mean,<space>that<space>happens<space>a<space>lot.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4736.64 10.64 I<space>mean,<space>where<space>you<space>allow<space>people,<space>other<space>license<space>holders,<space>like<space>liquor<space>license<space>holders<space>in<space>town<space>don't<space>always<space>have<space>to<space>have<space>police<space>details<space>at<space>their<space>bars.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4747.36 0.96 Sometimes<space>they<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4748.40 4.48 Over<space>350<space>people,<space>you<space>need<space>to<space>have<space>a<space>police<space>detail<space>-<space>But<space>other<space>times<space>they<space>don't.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4753.20 14.72 And<space>so<space>it's<space>within<space>your<space>power<space>to<space>say,<space>recognizing<space>that<space>soccer<space>games<space>are<space>relatively<space>benign,<space>and<space>recognizing<space>that<space>this<space>is<space>an<space>extraordinary<space>circumstance,<space>we're<space>gonna<space>allow<space>you<space>to<space>go<space>forward<space>with<space>your<space>team<space>ops<space>force.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4768.48 2.88 But<space>it<space>doesn't<space>go<space>on<space>beyond<space>that<space>day,<space>number<space>one.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4771.36 5.12 And<space>number<space>two,<space>if<space>something<space>happens,<space>you<space>have<space>to<space>call<space>Chief<space>O'Leary<space>and<space>--<space>-<space>Now<space>we're<space>back<space>to<space>bylaws.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4776.48 0.24 Right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4776.72 0.24 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4777.04 0.64 Correct.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4777.68 3.28 The<space>bylaws<space>prevented<space>that<space>-<space>I<space>agree<space>with<space>you,<space>but<space>it's<space>really<space>not<space>even<space>up<space>to<space>this<space>Board.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4780.96 8.32 It's<space>up<space>to<space>the<space>Chief<space>of<space>Police<space>and<space>he<space>has<space>made<space>it<space>very<space>clear<space>his<space>policy<space>on<space>security<space>up<space>at<space>the<space>stadium.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4789.76 3.84 Could<space>we<space>ask<space>chief<space>O'Leary<space>if<space>he<space>could<space>grant<space>some<space>grace<space>on<space>this.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4793.60 7.52 Once<space>again,<space>we'll<space>have<space>about<space>35<space>grievances<space>on<space>our<space>table<space>on<space>Monday<space>morning.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4801.12 2.24 If<space>not<space>before<space>that,<space>probably<space>tomorrow<space>morning.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4803.36 1.04 I'm<space>simply<space>trying<space>to<space>help.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4804.40 1.28 I<space>mean<space>--<space>-<space>Well,<space>I<space>am<space>too.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4805.68 0.24 Yep.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4805.92 1.52 And<space>I<space>think<space>the<space>Board<space>I<space>--<space>-<space>Can<space>I<space>just<space>ask<space>something?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4807.44 0.96 Go<space>ahead,<space>Cindy.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4808.40 5.60 How<space>many<space>police<space>officers<space>are<space>there,<space>usually,<space>at<space>the<space>stadium<space>on<space>a<space>soccer<space>event?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4814.16 1.84 Oh,<space>25.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4816.24 1.36 It's<space>really<space>pretty<space>small.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4818.08 3.60 It's<space>a<space>very<space>small,<space>not<space>like<space>350<space>for<space>a<space>football<space>game<space>or<space>more.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4821.84 2.72 Or<space>a<space>concert's<space>sometimes<space>more<space>than<space>350,<space>right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4824.72 0.72 Help<space>me<space>out.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4825.44 1.60 You<space>shouldn't<space>have<space>as<space>them<space>about<space>numbers.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4827.28 4.16 Well,<space>no,<space>I'm<space>just<space>trying<space>to<space>figure<space>out<space>what<space>type<space>of<space>numbers<space>we're<space>talking<space>about.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4832.08 7.04 I<space>really<space>don't<space>think<space>that's<space>relevant<space>because<space>the<space>chief<space>is<space>in<space>charge<space>of<space>security<space>and<space>he<space>is<space>not<space>gonna<space>agree<space>to<space>this.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4839.12 0.40 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4839.60 0.64 No,<space>he<space>won't.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4840.24 0.72 He's<space>just<space>not<space>going<space>to.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4841.04 0.72 Lorraine?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4842.08 5.44 How<space>does<space>the<space>stadium<space>insure<space>the<space>state<space>police<space>for<space>these<space>types<space>of<space>situations?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4847.52 0.48 We<space>don't.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4848.08 1.52 They're<space>off<space>property,<space>right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4849.92 1.12 They're<space>not<space>on<space>your<space>property?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4851.04 6.00 No,<space>they're<space>on<space>our<space>property,<space>but<space>we<space>don't<space>insure<space>them;<space>they<space>don't<space>ask<space>for<space>insurance<space>and<space>we<space>don't<space>provide<space>insurance<space>to<space>them.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4857.84 6.72 And<space>if<space>--<space>part<space>of<space>what<space>I've<space>learned<space>over<space>the<space>last<space>six<space>months<space>is<space>that's<space>actually<space>relatively<space>common.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4864.64 2.00 You<space>know,<space>talked<space>to<space>the<space>Red<space>Sox.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4866.64 2.32 We<space>talked<space>to<space>the<space>folks<space>at<space>TD<space>Bank<space>North<space>Garden.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4869.12 5.84 They<space>don't<space>have<space>an<space>obligation<space>to<space>provide<space>insurance<space>for<space>the<space>police<space>details<space>or<space>the<space>municipality.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4874.96 6.64 They<space>probably<space>provide<space>an<space>indemnity,<space>and<space>the<space>indemnity<space>is<space>very<space>similar<space>to<space>the<space>indemnity<space>that<space>we<space>have<space>now,<space>but<space>there's<space>no<space>insurance<space>requirement<space>there.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4881.84 14.96 And,<space>to<space>be<space>fair,<space>Dick<space>and<space>I<space>have<space>a<space>difference<space>of<space>opinion<space>about<space>why<space>the<space>Red<space>Sox<space>and<space>the<space>Bruins<space>and<space>Celtics<space>operate<space>one<space>way<space>and<space>we<space>are<space>being<space>asked,<space>and,<space>you<space>know,<space>I<space>truly<space>like<space>and<space>respect<space>Dick,<space>so<space>I<space>don't<space>want<space>to<space>suggest<space>otherwise,<space>but<space>they<space>don't<space>provide<space>insurance.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4899.20 8.08 And<space>the<space>reason<space>for<space>that<space>is:<space>baked<space>into<space>the<space>detail<space>rate,<space>is<space>an<space>overhead<space>component,<space>but<space>I<space>think<space>that's<space>also<space>the<space>case<space>here<space>in<space>Foxborough.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4907.28 2.08 You<space>know,<space>we're<space>starting<space>to<space>get<space>off<space>the<space>topic.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4909.68 4.40 I'm<space>not,<space>I<space>don't<space>mean<space>to<space>cut<space>you<space>off<space>Jim,<space>but<space>that's<space>really<space>not<space>a<space>part<space>of<space>this<space>discussion.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4916.56 14.08 Anybody<space>on<space>the<space>Board<space>feel<space>like<space>my<space>suggestion's<space>good<space>one,<space>about<space>making<space>them<space>cover<space>the<space>--<space>'Cause<space>I<space>think<space>that's<space>an<space>amicable<space>solution<space>to<space>this<space>at<space>this<space>point<space>in<space>time,<space>it's<space>a<space>low<space>risk<space>for<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4930.88 7.04 And<space>what<space>I<space>mean,<space>a<space>couple<space>of<space>50,000,<space>let's<space>stick<space>to<space>the<space>7,500,<space>so<space>you<space>really<space>only<space>had<space>42,500.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4938.08 0.88 Okay?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4939.20 2.08 And<space>it's<space>gotta<space>be<space>in<space>writing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4941.44 3.20 And<space>then<space>you<space>can<space>have<space>your<space>event<space>on<space>the<space>6th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4944.72 6.32 It<space>gives<space>you<space>to<space>the<space>-<space>Mark<space>it<space>isn't<space>$42,500<space>because<space>it's<space>per,<space>it's<space>$42,500<space>per<space>claimant.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4951.12 0.24 Right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4951.44 6.72 Well,<space>that's<space>the<space>liability<space>of<space>--<space>this<space>Board<space>is<space>not<space>gonna<space>--<space>-<space>Well,<space>I'm<space>just<space>explaining<space>--<space>-<space>We've<space>been<space>through<space>this<space>over<space>and<space>over<space>again.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4958.16 2.00 We're<space>not<space>willing<space>to<space>take<space>that<space>risk.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4960.48 1.28 You're<space>not<space>either.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4961.92 1.68 So<space>we're<space>at<space>a<space>stalemate.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4964.00 1.04 It's<space>business.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4965.28 0.56 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4965.84 4.08 And<space>we<space>represent<space>17,000<space>people<space>that<space>own<space>the<space>town.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4970.08 5.04 So<space>we're<space>asking<space>you<space>since<space>it's<space>such<space>a<space>risk,<space>low<space>risk<space>thing<space>that<space>everybody<space>portrayed<space>to<space>me.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4975.12 3.20 over<space>the<space>last<space>ten<space>days,<space>I've<space>heard,<space>"Oh<space>soccer's<space>no<space>big<space>deal.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4978.32 1.04 It's<space>a<space>low<space>risk.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4979.36 3.76 You<space>can<space>let<space>it<space>go<space>for<space>the<space>$50,000<space>deductible,<space>for<space>just<space>those<space>events".
2013_06_27BOS 1 4983.36 4.96 Well,<space>this<space>buys<space>you<space>time,<space>frees<space>up<space>everybody<space>for<space>21<space>days,<space>basically.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4988.56 1.60 And<space>I<space>think<space>it's<space>a<space>good<space>idea.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4990.24 2.24 And<space>I<space>don't<space>think<space>it's<space>that<space>much<space>to<space>ask.
2013_06_27BOS 1 4992.80 2.32 So,<space>how<space>does<space>the<space>Board<space>feel<space>about<space>that?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4995.20 2.48 Does<space>anybody<space>feel<space>like<space>this<space>is<space>a<space>good<space>solution?
2013_06_27BOS 1 4997.68 3.04 Or<space>do<space>we<space>want<space>to<space>sit<space>here<space>and<space>bang<space>heads<space>all<space>night?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5002.80 1.04 Can<space>we<space>do<space>that?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5003.92 1.44 Yeah,<space>we<space>can<space>make<space>that<space>motion.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5005.36 1.76 If<space>they<space>accept<space>it,<space>they<space>accept<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5007.44 1.84 Is<space>it<space>enforceable?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5010.16 1.84 No,<space>they're<space>gonna<space>take<space>it<space>as<space>not<space>acceptable.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5012.08 0.40 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5012.48 8.96 Hmm.I<space>think<space>they've<space>said<space>that<space>they<space>can't,<space>that<space>--<space>-<space>They<space>said<space>for<space>all,<space>I<space>think<space>their<space>focus,<space>there,<space>Lorraine,<space>is<space>on<space>concert<space>events,<space>larger<space>venues.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5021.68 1.84 They're<space>looking<space>to<space>get<space>this<space>fixed<space>up.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5023.60 1.20 This<space>gives<space>them<space>more<space>time.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5024.80 2.32 I<space>mean,<space>it's<space>either<space>that<space>or<space>nothing<space>at<space>this<space>point.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5027.12 0.48 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5027.68 2.24 And<space>I<space>mean,<space>really,<space>what<space>are<space>we<space>going<space>to<space>do<space>here?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5030.16 2.24 I<space>think,<space>well,<space>I<space>think<space>one<space>thing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5032.56 26.48 If<space>we<space>gave<space>everybody<space>until<space>the<space>3rd,<space>the<space>outcome<space>is<space>still<space>potentially<space>the<space>same,<space>depending<space>on<space>what<space>happens,<space>we<space>will<space>not<space>compromise<space>on<space>the<space>$50,000<space>deductible<space>and<space>we<space>will<space>have,<space>-<space>So,<space>then<space>we'll<space>have<space>a<space>two<space>hour<space>meeting<space>-<space>So<space>then<space>on<space>the<space>3rd,<space>hopefully,<space>doing<space>it<space>on<space>a<space>3rd<space>potentially<space>gives<space>time<space>to<space>work<space>it<space>out<space>so<space>that<space>we<space>don't<space>get<space>to<space>that<space>point.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5059.20 1.28 We're<space>at<space>that<space>point,<space>today.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5060.56 3.36 But<space>we're<space>trying<space>to<space>free<space>up<space>the<space>Board<space>from<space>all<space>the<space>inconveniences.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5063.92 1.04 Oh,<space>what<space>about<space>this,<space>Mark?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5064.96 5.60 It's<space>and<space>I,<space>believe<space>me,<space>I<space>know<space>what<space>you're<space>talking<space>about,<space>trying<space>to<space>give<space>up<space>the<space>day<space>before<space>a<space>holiday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5071.36 11.36 I<space>don't<space>know<space>what<space>you<space>guys<space>talked<space>about<space>in<space>the<space>ten<space>minutes,<space>but<space>if<space>you're,<space>fairly<space>confident<space>that<space>you<space>can<space>get<space>from<space>there<space>to<space>there<space>to<space>the<space>3rd,<space>expedite<space>it<space>a<space>little<space>bit,<space>work<space>on<space>a<space>Saturday,<space>Sunday,<space>whatever<space>you<space>gotta<space>do,<space>and<space>we'll<space>wrap<space>this<space>up<space>on<space>the<space>2nd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5082.72 2.40 If<space>you're<space>here<space>on<space>the<space>2nd,<space>we'll<space>do<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5085.20 4.88 If<space>you're<space>not<space>here<space>on<space>the<space>second,<space>sorry,<space>there's<space>five<space>people,<space>we<space>gotta<space>go<space>with<space>four,<space>three.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5090.32 6.48 This<space>is<space>a<space>big<space>enough<space>issue<space>that<space>I<space>think<space>we<space>need<space>to<space>-<space>Hmmm,<space>yeah<space>go<space>a<space>few<space>days<space>to<space>give<space>them<space>an<space>opportunity.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5097.12 4.32 Yeah,<space>but<space>if<space>on<space>the<space>3rd,<space>it's<space>still<space>a<space>stalemate,<space>-<space>Then,<space>cancel.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5101.44 0.56 We<space>don't<space>have<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5102.00 0.72 It's<space>canceled.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5103.12 8.80 I<space>don't<space>know<space>what<space>else<space>to<space>say,<space>-<space>Right,<space>but<space>I'm<space>wondering<space>if<space>they<space>can<space>discuss<space>this<space>with<space>their<space>entire<space>organization<space>and<space>come<space>back<space>--<space>-<space>They<space>can<space>go<space>discuss<space>this<space>right<space>now<space>and<space>take<space>five<space>minutes.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5112.80 1.92 Mark's<space>suggestion<space>among<space>yourself.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5114.80 1.36 It's<space>just<space>for<space>one<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5117.52 8.80 If<space>I<space>could<space>interject,<space>to<space>answer<space>your<space>question,<space>I'll<space>be<space>comfortable<space>well<space>before<space>the<space>3rd,<space>whether<space>or<space>not<space>the<space>procurement<space>issue<space>is<space>solvable.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5126.64 0.56 Okay?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5127.36 6.24 I'll<space>let<space>you<space>know,<space>and<space>if<space>I<space>find<space>out<space>there's<space>no<space>hope,<space>then<space>there's<space>no<space>hope,<space>there's<space>no<space>sense<space>of<space>my<space>coming<space>in<space>on<space>the<space>3rd<space>and<space>telling<space>you<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5133.92 3.36 I'll<space>tell<space>you<space>that<space>well<space>before,<space>and<space>you<space>can<space>cancel<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5137.28 2.24 But<space>then<space>we<space>still<space>can't<space>make<space>a<space>decision.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5139.68 8.08 We<space>need<space>to<space>make<space>a<space>motion<space>tonight<space>to<space>have<space>them<space>have<space>an<space>alternative<space>in<space>place<space>because<space>we're<space>not<space>going<space>to<space>reconvene<space>for<space>some<space>other<space>scheme.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5148.16 1.68 No,<space>Mark,<space>I<space>understand<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5149.84 2.56 But<space>if<space>I<space>could<space>just<space>continue<space>--<space>-<space>Settle<space>down.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5152.40 3.36 Mark,<space>you<space>gotta<space>watch<space>what<space>you<space>say<space>and<space>how<space>you<space>say<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5156.32 7.20 Well,<space>everybody<space>sitting<space>at<space>this<space>table,<space>Deb,<space>is<space>trying<space>to<space>circumvent<space>the<space>bylaws,<space>the<space>laws<space>of<space>the<space>town,<space>and<space>it's<space>not<space>working<space>out.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5163.60 0.40 And<space>I<space>understand<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5164.00 7.68 But<space>if<space>you<space>go<space>back<space>to<space>the<space>original<space>thing<space>is<space>if<space>the<space>letter<space>was<space>written<space>eight<space>weeks<space>ago<space>--<space>-<space>Stop.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5173.36 0.64 Stop.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5174.08 1.68 So,<space>Mark,<space>let<space>me<space>get<space>back<space>to<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5175.92 17.52 If<space>you<space>were<space>to<space>schedule<space>me<space>for<space>the<space>3rd,<space>if<space>prior<space>to<space>the<space>3rd,<space>at<space>least<space>on<space>the<space>procurement<space>issue,<space>the<space>bylaw<space>issues,<space>if<space>it's<space>clear<space>to<space>me,<space>we're<space>not<space>going<space>to<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>meet,<space>to<space>comply<space>with<space>those<space>bylaws<space>and<space>with<space>procurement<space>statutes<space>I'll<space>tell<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5193.44 1.52 I'll<space>tell<space>you<space>well<space>before<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5195.20 1.28 Well<space>not<space>well<space>before<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5196.48 1.52 I'll<space>probably<space>tell<space>you<space>on<space>Monday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5199.36 3.20 And,<space>it's<space>not<space>the<space>first<space>meeting<space>you've<space>canceled.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5203.76 4.88 In<space>terms<space>of<space>the<space>issue,<space>how<space>are<space>we<space>gonna<space>solve<space>the<space>problem,<space>which,<space>to<space>me,<space>the<space>problem<space>is<space>the<space>$50,000.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5208.64 1.28 It's<space>not<space>procurement.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5209.92 2.48 It's<space>not<space>compliance<space>with<space>bylaws.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5212.56 1.12 That's<space>not<space>up<space>to<space>me.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5213.68 1.44 That's<space>up<space>to<space>Jim.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5215.12 15.76 And<space>he<space>sees<space>it's<space>not<space>gonna<space>happen,<space>he'll<space>tell<space>me,<space>I'll<space>tell<space>you,<space>and<space>you,<space>in<space>other<space>words,<space>I<space>don't<space>expect<space>the<space>Board<space>to<space>convene<space>on<space>the<space>3rd,<space>without<space>their<space>having<space>the<space>expectation<space>that<space>we've<space>solved<space>the<space>problem.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5231.04 24.56 Right<space>-<space>But<space>what<space>I'm<space>saying<space>to<space>you,<space>we<space>can<space>make<space>the<space>motion<space>tonight<space>to<space>back<space>up<space>what<space>I<space>said<space>15<space>times<space>about<space>now<space>to<space>allow<space>them<space>to<space>proceed,<space>to<space>have<space>the<space>event,<space>if<space>they<space>will<space>take<space>on<space>the<space>deductible,<space>if<space>they<space>don't<space>want<space>to<space>accept<space>that<space>at<space>that<space>point<space>in<space>time,<space>because<space>you're<space>going<space>to<space>make<space>the<space>Board<space>reconvene<space>one<space>way<space>or<space>another.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5255.84 2.00 No,<space>I<space>think<space>that's<space>fine.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5257.92 1.52 I<space>think<space>what<space>you're<space>suggesting<space>is<space>fine.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5259.44 1.44 So<space>we<space>kick<space>it<space>over<space>to<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5260.88 13.60 In<space>the<space>event<space>that<space>the<space>Board<space>is<space>unable<space>to<space>reach<space>agreement<space>on<space>that<space>date,<space>then<space>in<space>order<space>to<space>obtain<space>a<space>license,<space>go<space>forward,<space>they're<space>going<space>to<space>have<space>to,<space>for<space>that,<space>there's<space>just<space>one<space>soccer<space>event<space>between..
2013_06_27BOS 1 5274.48 1.20 Now<space>and<space>the<space>20th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5275.76 2.88 Then<space>that's<space>the<space>condition<space>of<space>the<space>Board,<space>if<space>that's<space>how<space>the<space>Board<space>feels.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5278.64 1.60 And<space>I<space>get<space>you<space>on<space>that,<space>sure.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5280.32 2.56 And<space>all<space>I<space>have<space>to<space>do<space>is<space>draft<space>that<space>motion.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5283.20 0.56 Yeah?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5284.08 1.20 I<space>think<space>there's<space>two.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5286.88 6.40 I<space>think<space>there's<space>one<space>the<space>following<space>weekend<space>-<space>Two<space>soccer<space>events<space>-<space>--<space>and<space>Bon<space>Jovi's<space>on<space>the<space>20th<space>-<space>When's<space>the<space>next<space>one?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5293.44 1.12 I<space>don't<space>have<space>it<space>in<space>front,<space>sorry.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5294.56 4.00 I<space>think<space>its<space>like<space>6th<space>and<space>12th<space>-<space>I<space>don't<space>have<space>the<space>soccer<space>schedule.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5298.64 1.04 Randy?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5300.88 3.84 I<space>thought<space>the<space>12th<space>rang<space>a<space>bell<space>as<space>well,<space>yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5308.00 1.84 I<space>certainly<space>appreciate<space>your<space>efforts.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5309.84 10.24 I<space>do<space>want<space>to<space>let<space>you<space>know,<space>though,<space>that<space>Mike<space>Norrick<space>is<space>going<space>out<space>on<space>a<space>limb<space>and<space>saying<space>he<space>will<space>have<space>something<space>for<space>us<space>before<space>the<space>6th<space>of<space>July.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5320.16 2.88 Now<space>we're<space>talking<space>about<space>having<space>it<space>a<space>couple<space>of<space>days<space>earlier.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5323.04 7.52 So<space>I,<space>what<space>I'd<space>like<space>to<space>do,<space>if<space>it's<space>okay<space>with<space>you,<space>is<space>I<space>will<space>call<space>Mike<space>first<space>thing<space>tomorrow<space>morning<space>and<space>run<space>this<space>new<space>schedule<space>by<space>him.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5330.56 4.24 And<space>if<space>he<space>says<space>it's<space>hopeless,<space>I<space>will<space>send<space>a<space>note<space>to<space>Dick<space>and<space>let<space>him<space>know<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5334.80 3.60 And<space>then<space>this<space>whole<space>thing<space>is<space>--<space>-<space>Then<space>you<space>can't<space>have<space>an<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5338.48 2.72 I'm<space>trying<space>to<space>give<space>you<space>an<space>out<space>from<space>a<space>motion<space>tonight.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5341.36 1.12 Oh,<space>I'm<space>sorry.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5342.72 4.80 All<space>I'm<space>suggesting<space>is<space>as<space>soon<space>as<space>I<space>know<space>that<space>it's<space>impossible,<space>I<space>will<space>let<space>you<space>know.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5347.60 4.24 And<space>hopefully<space>that'll<space>be<space>at<space>least<space>helpful<space>as<space>far<space>as<space>schedules<space>are<space>concerned.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5352.40 1.84 That's<space>the<space>best<space>I<space>can<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5354.88 24.96 Do<space>you<space>want<space>this<space>Board<space>to<space>make<space>a<space>motion<space>where,<space>I'm<space>getting<space>repetitive,<space>that<space>you<space>can<space>have<space>your<space>event<space>as<space>long<space>as<space>your<space>KO<space>group<space>agrees<space>in<space>writing<space>to<space>cover<space>the<space>difference<space>in<space>the<space>deductible,<space>the<space>$50,000,<space>to<space>have<space>the<space>soccer<space>games,<space>giving<space>us<space>time<space>to<space>work<space>through<space>the<space>rest<space>of<space>the<space>situation?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5380.24 1.44 Because<space>we're<space>not<space>gonna<space>meet.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5381.68 5.28 If<space>you<space>don't<space>come<space>together<space>with<space>some<space>plan,<space>then<space>there's<space>nothing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5387.12 2.72 We're<space>not<space>coming<space>back<space>to<space>the<space>table<space>to<space>talk<space>about<space>it<space>anymore.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5389.84 1.44 Then<space>you<space>can't<space>have<space>the<space>event.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5391.36 1.92 I<space>think<space>that's<space>how<space>we're<space>going.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5393.52 4.80 You're<space>saying,<space>if<space>you<space>don't<space>have<space>nothing<space>together<space>by<space>Monday<space>or<space>Tuesday,<space>you're<space>not<space>gonna<space>ask<space>us<space>to<space>reconvene.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5398.40 5.44 If<space>we<space>can't<space>reconvene<space>before<space>the<space>6th,<space>then<space>there's<space>nothing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5403.84 1.28 Do<space>you<space>want<space>something?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5405.28 12.24 Well,<space>I'm<space>probably<space>being<space>too<space>much<space>of<space>a<space>lawyer<space>and<space>I<space>apologize<space>for<space>that,<space>but<space>I'm<space>really<space>looking<space>at<space>this<space>and<space>saying<space>that<space>we<space>have<space>our<space>insurance<space>and<space>we've<space>provided<space>you<space>with<space>this<space>certificate<space>and<space>I<space>need<space>to<space>provide<space>an<space>answer<space>for<space>you.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5417.68 1.12 I<space>will<space>do<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5419.20 2.24 This<space>is<space>insurance<space>that<space>we<space>cannot<space>get.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5421.76 13.52 And<space>we<space>are<space>facilitating,<space>in<space>essence,<space>we<space>are<space>really<space>trying<space>hard<space>to<space>find<space>insurance<space>for<space>your<space>police<space>detail<space>so<space>that<space>you<space>can<space>have<space>an<space>acceptable<space>level<space>of<space>risk<space>for<space>the<space>events<space>we<space>hold<space>at<space>the<space>stadium.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5435.36 12.16 So<space>with<space>all<space>of<space>that<space>in<space>mind,<space>I<space>don't<space>think<space>it<space>would<space>be<space>helpful,<space>if<space>that's<space>what<space>you're<space>asking,<space>to<space>have<space>the<space>motion<space>that<space>you're<space>suggesting.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5447.76 17.76 I<space>think<space>what<space>would<space>probably<space>be<space>most<space>helpful,<space>if<space>you<space>wouldn't<space>mind,<space>is<space>for<space>me<space>to<space>check<space>in<space>with<space>Mike<space>Norrick<space>tomorrow<space>and<space>find<space>out<space>what<space>he<space>thinks<space>about<space>the<space>schedule<space>and<space>then<space>let<space>Dick<space>know,<space>and<space>then<space>whatever<space>you<space>feel<space>is<space>appropriate,<space>you<space>certainly<space>should<space>do,<space>but<space>I<space>don't<space>want<space>to<space>cause<space>you<space>to<space>come<space>in<space>when<space>you<space>don't<space>have<space>to.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5465.52 6.72 If<space>we<space>don't<space>have<space>something<space>in<space>the<space>way<space>of<space>a<space>proposal,<space>then<space>you<space>know,<space>let's<space>all<space>enjoy<space>the<space>4th<space>instead.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5472.48 10.40 Why<space>don't<space>we<space>post<space>a<space>meeting<space>for<space>Monday<space>and<space>Tuesday<space>and<space>Wednesday,<space>and<space>just<space>have<space>it<space>there<space>in<space>case<space>we<space>need<space>to<space>--<space>-<space>Just<space>following<space>this<space>to<space>the<space>logical<space>conclusion,<space>then<space>the<space>event<space>doesn't<space>happen.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5483.12 2.16 And<space>that's<space>exactly<space>what<space>I<space>said<space>three<space>times.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5485.36 1.04 Then,<space>you<space>have<space>nothing.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5486.48 1.92 If<space>you<space>don't<space>come<space>to<space>an<space>agreement.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5488.48 11.20 To<space>be<space>clear,<space>there'll<space>be<space>litigation,<space>we<space>will<space>be<space>in,<space>so<space>you<space>all<space>know<space>what's<space>going<space>to<space>happen<space>here,<space>we're<space>gonna<space>be<space>in<space>court<space>next<space>week<space>if<space>we<space>can't<space>solve<space>it<space>then.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5500.08 7.92 Then<space>what<space>good<space>was<space>that,<space>then<space>what<space>good<space>was<space>during<space>the<space>application<space>process<space>that<space>we<space>had<space>that<space>motion?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5508.08 0.96 What<space>good<space>was<space>that?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5509.20 12.56 If<space>it's<space>not<space>binding,<space>if<space>we<space>can't<space>pull<space>the<space>license<space>because<space>the<space>condition<space>hasn't<space>--<space>-<space>Jen,<space>you<space>are<space>gonna<space>pull<space>the<space>license<space>-<space>Yeah<space>but<space>if<space>they<space>do<space>litigation,<space>that<space>means<space>they'll<space>have<space>the<space>event,<space>anyway.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5521.84 5.28 I<space>mean,<space>what<space>good,<space>what<space>good<space>is<space>doing<space>anything<space>If<space>the<space>event's<space>going<space>to<space>happen<space>anyway?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5527.12 3.28 And<space>what<space>good<space>is<space>trying<space>--<space>-<space>and<space>putting<space>the<space>town<space>at<space>risk.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5531.84 12.88 I<space>am<space>advise<space>--<space>I<space>would<space>be<space>shocked<space>if<space>you,<space>if<space>a<space>license<space>was<space>pulled<space>that<space>they<space>would<space>simply<space>not<space>hold<space>the<space>event<space>without<space>seeking<space>court<space>intervention.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5544.72 3.44 And<space>they<space>probably'll<space>win,<space>but<space>you<space>know<space>what,<space>we<space>did<space>our<space>jobs.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5548.24 5.84 Okay,<space>I'm<space>just<space>--<space>-<space>That's<space>what<space>it's<space>all<space>about<space>here,<space>is<space>protecting<space>the<space>town<space>and<space>for<space>the<space>voters<space>that<space>put<space>us<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5554.16 2.48 Jim<space>us<space>now?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5557.36 2.16 This<space>is<space>gonna<space>turn<space>into<space>a<space>rodeo.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5559.60 0.80 Mr.<space>Chairman?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5560.48 0.40 Yeah?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5561.12 4.08 Please,<space>I<space>have,<space>neither<space>one<space>of<space>us<space>have<space>threatened<space>any<space>litigation.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5565.20 1.84 And<space>I<space>want<space>to<space>make<space>that<space>clear.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5567.04 1.44 We're<space>really<space>trying<space>to<space>work<space>together.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5568.48 2.96 And<space>we've<space>been<space>trying<space>to<space>do<space>that<space>for<space>over<space>six<space>months.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5571.60 9.76 And<space>I'm<space>gonna<space>try<space>again<space>tomorrow<space>to<space>get<space>Mr.<space>Norrick<space>to<space>move<space>even<space>faster<space>than<space>he's<space>already<space>moving,<space>and<space>I'm<space>sincerely<space>hopeful<space>that<space>this<space>could<space>all<space>have<space>been<space>cooperatively.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5581.92 3.52 But,<space>please,<space>we're<space>not<space>threatening<space>any<space>litigation.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5585.68 2.88 And<space>we<space>are<space>sincerely<space>hopeful<space>that<space>things<space>work<space>out<space>here.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5588.64 8.08 And<space>I<space>do<space>really<space>like<space>your<space>idea,<space>Selectman<space>,<space>and<space>if<space>you<space>wouldn't<space>mind<space>having<space>some<space>contingent<space>dates<space>available<space>to<space>us,<space>we'll<space>keep<space>you<space>informed.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5597.52 4.88 Every,<space>chance<space>I<space>get<space>I'll,<space>I'll<space>send<space>a<space>note<space>to<space>Dick,<space>letting<space>him<space>know<space>what's<space>going<space>well,<space>and<space>what's<space>not<space>going<space>well.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5602.56 1.52 I<space>can't<space>make<space>any<space>guarantees.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5604.08 3.20 I<space>really<space>can't,<space>but<space>we<space>will<space>try<space>our<space>best.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5607.76 4.40 Bob,<space>can<space>you<space>post<space>meetings<space>for<space>next<space>Monday,<space>Tuesday,<space>Wednesday?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5612.16 2.16 Let's<space>not<space>do<space>that,<space>I<space>didn't<space>agree<space>to<space>any<space>of<space>that.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5614.32 1.20 Sorry.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5615.92 2.80 If<space>nothing<space>else,<space>and<space>I<space>know<space>they<space>won't<space>agree<space>to<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5618.72 4.56 It<space>is<space>a<space>fall<space>back<space>position<space>that,<space>potentially,<space>will<space>allow<space>the<space>event<space>to<space>take<space>place,<space>-<space>Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5623.36 2.16 It's<space>a<space>fallback,<space>but<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>if<space>it's<space>possible.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5625.76 2.40 It's<space>showing<space>that<space>you're<space>trying<space>to<space>work<space>through<space>this.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5628.24 5.52 You<space>know,<space>I<space>think<space>that<space>we<space>should<space>make<space>that<space>kind<space>of<space>a<space>motion.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5633.92 2.64 Anybody<space>disagree<space>with<space>that?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5637.52 4.96 I<space>think<space>I<space>do<space>for<space>the<space>reason,<space>if<space>I<space>had<space>the<space>option,<space>they<space>don't<space>want<space>that<space>option.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5642.48 5.04 So<space>forcing<space>them<space>something<space>to<space>do<space>that,<space>they<space>said<space>three<space>times,<space>that<space>they<space>don't<space>wanna<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5647.68 8.64 I<space>think<space>we<space>stand<space>back<space>and<space>say,<space>we<space>gave<space>them<space>the<space>application<space>contingent<space>upon<space>an<space>insurance<space>agreement<space>that<space>was<space>worked<space>out.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5656.56 2.08 We<space>feel<space>that<space>it's<space>not<space>worked<space>out.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5658.80 3.84 So<space>at<space>the<space>end<space>of<space>this<space>exercise,<space>they<space>don't<space>get<space>the<space>permit.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5663.20 3.52 The<space>permit<space>has<space>not<space>physically<space>been<space>issued<space>to<space>them<space>at<space>this<space>point.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5666.80 6.96 So<space>if<space>they<space>see<space>that<space>is<space>the<space>case,<space>they're<space>still<space>saying,<space>obviously<space>we<space>live<space>in<space>a<space>real<space>world.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5674.08 7.76 If<space>I<space>had<space>a<space>guess,<space>the<space>event's<space>going<space>to<space>go<space>forward<space>and<space>then<space>we'll<space>deal<space>with<space>it<space>in<space>the<space>court.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5682.16 4.88 But<space>to<space>force<space>somebody<space>that<space>said<space>they<space>don't<space>want<space>to<space>do<space>it<space>to<space>hold<space>their<space>own,<space>to<space>put<space>money<space>up<space>when<space>they<space>said<space>no.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5687.04 5.12 I<space>mean,<space>I<space>look<space>at<space>the<space>Boston<space>marathon,<space>that<space>was<space>always<space>a<space>peaceful<space>thing<space>and<space>things<space>change<space>overnight.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5692.16 13.28 So<space>to<space>ask<space>a<space>business<space>to<space>take<space>$50,000<space>liability<space>times<space>100,<space>200,<space>300<space>people,<space>that's<space>kind<space>of<space>unreal<space>also,<space>to<space>self-insure<space>that<space>number.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5705.52 3.68 So<space>we'll<space>do<space>our<space>best<space>the<space>2nd,<space>the<space>3rd,<space>the<space>1st.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5709.44 8.88 If<space>it<space>doesn't<space>work,<space>then<space>the<space>event<space>has<space>to<space>be<space>canceled<space>because<space>we<space>have<space>not<space>come<space>up<space>with<space>an<space>agreeable<space>indemnification<space>clause<space>that<space>the<space>town<space>has<space>said<space>that's<space>okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5718.80 4.16 So,<space>I<space>think<space>there's<space>more<space>liability<space>to<space>say<space>we're<space>going<space>to<space>put<space>it<space>on<space>their<space>shoulders.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5722.96 1.04 They're<space>going<space>to<space>say<space>no.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5724.00 4.88 And<space>then<space>we're<space>both<space>dealing<space>with<space>an<space>issue<space>after<space>the<space>fact,<space>because<space>they've<space>already<space>said<space>no.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5728.88 3.68 So<space>we're<space>going<space>to<space>give<space>them<space>a<space>permit<space>after<space>the<space>fact<space>that<space>they<space>said,<space>no.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5732.56 0.88 Well,<space>said<space>Jim.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5733.52 1.28 Jenny<space>how<space>do<space>you<space>feel?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5734.80 2.32 No,<space>I<space>agree<space>with<space>Jim.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5737.20 1.36 Lorraine,<space>you<space>also?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5738.72 2.64 Yeah,<space>I<space>think<space>--<space>-<space>I'll<space>let<space>you<space>know<space>when<space>I'm<space>gonna<space>post<space>the<space>meeting.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5741.36 2.88 I'll<space>talk<space>to<space>Bob,<space>'cause<space>I'm<space>not<space>postin'<space>nothin'<space>tonight.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5744.96 1.84 Just<space>for<space>a<space>point<space>of<space>reference.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5746.88 4.32 Nothing<space>could<space>be<space>held<space>on<space>Monday<space>night<space>anyway,<space>'cause<space>it<space>would<space>have<space>to<space>have<space>been<space>posted<space>by<space>this<space>afternoon.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5751.20 0.64 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5752.40 2.48 Unless<space>it's<space>under<space>provisions<space>of<space>emergency.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5755.52 0.48 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5756.00 3.28 But<space>this<space>would<space>not<space>be<space>an<space>emergency<space>situation.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5759.44 1.68 That'd<space>be<space>a<space>public<space>emergency.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5761.12 12.08 So,<space>it'd<space>be<space>Tuesday,<space>the<space>-<space>Tuesday<space>would<space>be<space>the<space>first<space>possible<space>Tuesday<space>and<space>Wednesday,<space>the<space>Tuesday<space>-<space>I'm<space>not<space>inclined<space>to<space>do<space>that<space>at<space>this<space>point<space>in<space>time.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5774.24 1.68 So<space>you<space>guys<space>get<space>together.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5776.40 6.00 No<space>contact<space>with<space>any<space>board<space>members<space>other<space>than<space>through<space>town<space>counsel<space>or<space>town<space>manager.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5782.48 0.64 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5783.28 0.88 Nobody.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5784.56 7.92 I<space>don't<space>want<space>anybody<space>having<space>any<space>conversations<space>with<space>anybody,<space>but<space>Bob<space>Cutler<space>and<space>the<space>attorneys<space>to<space>their<space>attorneys.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5792.56 0.48 All<space>right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5793.04 1.04 Is<space>that<space>clear?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5794.48 1.68 Anything<space>you<space>wanna<space>add<space>to<space>that<space>Jim?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5797.04 6.72 I<space>would<space>certainly<space>defer<space>to<space>your<space>lawyers<space>on<space>this,<space>but<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>if<space>that's<space>legal<space>to<space>be<space>perfectly<space>frank.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5804.00 1.44 Dan's<space>town.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5805.60 2.16 Well,<space>no,<space>I'm<space>talking<space>about<space>the<space>business.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5807.76 1.20 You<space>can<space>talk<space>to<space>them.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5808.96 3.04 You<space>know,<space>we've<space>had<space>this<space>discussion<space>before.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5812.40 6.64 Nobody<space>can<space>talk<space>about<space>this,<space>about<space>what<space>we<space>talked<space>about<space>tonight<space>with<space>the<space>Board<space>about<space>this.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5819.12 0.88 I<space>certainly<space>won't.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5820.08 3.04 All<space>right,<space>everybody<space>can<space>make<space>all<space>the<space>little<space>phone<space>calls.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5823.12 6.48 they<space>want<space>to<space>Bob<space>Cutler,<space>town<space>counsel,<space>and<space>they<space>will<space>inform<space>me,<space>and<space>I<space>can<space>inform<space>the<space>Board<space>and<space>we'll<space>have<space>another<space>meeting.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5829.60 1.04 All<space>right<space>-<space>All<space>right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5830.64 1.12 Is<space>that<space>okay?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5832.08 4.16 That<space>way<space>it<space>just<space>keeps<space>it<space>from<space>being<space>a<space>Round<space>Robin.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5837.52 1.28 So<space>we're<space>hold<space>on.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5839.04 1.20 So<space>it's<space>clear<space>to<space>me.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5840.40 2.72 What,<space>what<space>is<space>the<space>action<space>that<space>the<space>Board<space>is<space>taking<space>tonight?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5843.28 0.80 None.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5844.88 0.48 None.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5845.44 7.36 I<space>think<space>we're<space>advising<space>you,<space>based<space>on<space>the<space>ten<space>minute<space>discussion<space>you've<space>had,<space>if<space>there's<space>a<space>way<space>to<space>work<space>it<space>out,<space>we'll<space>do<space>our<space>job<space>and<space>post<space>it<space>for<space>Tuesday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5853.52 4.00 As<space>of<space>now,<space>you're<space>not<space>post,<space>you're<space>going<space>to<space>post<space>a<space>meeting<space>as<space>of<space>Tuesday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5857.52 2.64 Tuesday,<space>Wednesday,<space>-<space>And<space>Wednesday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5860.16 1.20 It's<space>not<space>going<space>to<space>be<space>Friday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5861.68 0.40 Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5862.88 3.92 If<space>you<space>would<space>just<space>post<space>it<space>for<space>the,<space>those<space>days,<space>you<space>don't<space>have<space>to<space>hold<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5867.52 2.32 Post<space>it<space>for<space>Tuesday,<space>Wednesday,<space>and<space>Friday.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5869.84 1.84 We're<space>just<space>posting<space>a<space>meeting<space>for<space>those<space>days.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5871.84 8.80 You<space>do<space>have<space>the<space>issue<space>of,<space>that's<space>all<space>right,<space>but<space>you've<space>got<space>a<space>condition<space>that<space>expires<space>on<space>June<space>30.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5882.72 2.24 It<space>expires<space>and<space>it's<space>either<space>you're<space>gonna<space>renew<space>it<space>or<space>not.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5884.96 1.20 It<space>expires<space>Sunday<space>night<space>-<space>Huh?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5886.16 0.80 I'm<space>sorry.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5887.20 0.88 Sunday<space>night.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5888.08 1.36 So<space>the<space>product's<space>expired.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5889.44 1.04 Expired.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5890.64 1.60 That's<space>all<space>there<space>is<space>to<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5892.24 1.20 So<space>what<space>happens<space>if<space>that<space>happens?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5893.44 0.88 Can<space>you,<space>then<space>we?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5894.88 1.76 They<space>can<space>always<space>vote<space>every<space>issue.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5896.64 3.52 Don't<space>we<space>have<space>to<space>have<space>a<space>public<space>hearing,<space>Bob?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5900.16 0.64 Well,<space>you<space>would<space>have.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5900.80 0.64 That's<space>a<space>whole<space>process.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5901.44 1.44 --<space>a<space>public<space>hearing<space>--<space>-<space>Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5904.08 6.48 But<space>is<space>it,<space>are<space>you<space>posting<space>a<space>hearing<space>for<space>--<space>-<space>A<space>meeting<space>-<space>The<space>other<space>thing<space>we<space>do.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5910.56 3.76 We<space>do<space>have<space>a<space>vote<space>continuing<space>those<space>things<space>to<space>July<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5914.48 1.44 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5916.48 5.36 But<space>I<space>haven't<space>included<space>the<space>condition<space>that<space>he<space>wants<space>it,<space>'cause<space>it<space>sounds<space>to<space>me<space>like<space>the<space>Board<space>is<space>not<space>behind<space>it.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5921.84 14.48 So<space>we've<space>drafted<space>a<space>motion<space>that,<space>basically<space>puts<space>over,<space>continues<space>the<space>approval<space>until,<space>I<space>say,<space>not<space>later<space>than<space>July<space>3rd,<space>but<space>it<space>may<space>be<space>later<space>than<space>July<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5936.48 2.16 I<space>could<space>say<space>July<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5938.96 0.56 Okay?
2013_06_27BOS 1 5940.00 1.84 Knowing<space>that<space>you're<space>going<space>to<space>meet<space>on<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5941.84 3.28 It's<space>not<space>late,<space>the<space>3rd<space>is<space>not<space>later<space>than<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5945.28 4.56 And<space>I<space>anticipated<space>a<space>meeting<space>on<space>the<space>5th,<space>-<space>No<space>but<space>you<space>can<space>still<space>have<space>a<space>meeting<space>on<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5950.00 3.84 No.<space>-<space>The<space>2nd<space>or<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5954.08 1.92 I'm<space>not<space>agreeing<space>to<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5956.48 5.68 I<space>think<space>what<space>he's<space>saying<space>is<space>extend<space>the<space>conditions,<space>the<space>permit<space>expires.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5962.40 1.52 The<space>3rd<space>-<space>The<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5964.00 4.40 So,<space>make<space>the<space>motion<space>to<space>extend<space>it<space>to<space>3rd,<space>midnight,<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5968.40 4.16 That<space>way<space>we<space>have<space>Monday,<space>Tuesday<space>--<space>-<space>I<space>thought<space>we<space>said<space>the<space>3rd<space>through<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5972.88 19.28 We<space>did<space>originally<space>say<space>that,<space>but<space>that<space>doesn't<space>mean<space>that<space>you<space>have<space>to<space>have<space>a<space>meeting<space>on<space>the<space>5th,<space>you<space>can<space>have<space>the<space>meeting<space>on<space>the<space>3rd,<space>but<space>just<space>in<space>case<space>by<space>some<space>folks,<space>say<space>everything's<space>all<space>worked<space>out,<space>but<space>logistically<space>you<space>can't<space>get<space>some<space>final<space>detail<space>you're<space>okay<space>with<space>or<space>any<space>other<space>person's<space>okay<space>with<space>just<space>to<space>leave<space>it<space>in<space>place,<space>so<space>it's<space>not<space>expired.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5992.24 4.56 Doesn't<space>mean<space>the<space>meeting<space>has<space>to<space>happen<space>on<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 5997.84 6.56 That<space>does<space>seem<space>reasonable<space>-<space>Dick,<space>are<space>you<space>saying<space>that<space>the<space>license<space>expires<space>on<space>the<space>30th?
2013_06_27BOS 1 6004.40 0.72 It's<space>the<space>30th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6005.20 5.12 The<space>conditions<space>of<space>approval,<space>have<space>a<space>dead<space>--<space>you<space>have<space>a<space>deadline<space>--<space>-<space>Because<space>it<space>didn't<space>make<space>sense.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6010.32 1.84 --<space>so<space>I'm<space>extending<space>those.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6012.16 1.60 It<space>expires<space>and<space>the<space>event<space>is<space>on<space>the<space>6th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6013.76 0.24 So<space>yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6014.00 0.40 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6014.80 10.48 So<space>we're<space>extending<space>those<space>to<space>not<space>later<space>than<space>the<space>5th,<space>but<space>my,<space>my<space>associate's<space>absolutely<space>right,<space>It<space>doesn't<space>mean<space>you<space>have<space>to<space>meet<space>on<space>the<space>5th;<space>it<space>gives<space>us<space>to<space>that<space>day,<space>yes.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6025.28 1.76 There<space>won't<space>be<space>a<space>quorum<space>on<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6027.60 2.32 And<space>this<space>is<space>not<space>for<space>a<space>meeting<space>on<space>the<space>5th.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6029.92 11.28 This<space>is<space>for<space>--<space>-<space>The<space>conditions<space>-<space>--<space>extending<space>the<space>conditions.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6041.20 0.32 Right.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6041.68 2.40 Did<space>you<space>make<space>them<space>back?
2013_06_27BOS 1 6045.60 3.68 -<space>3rd<space>at<space>midnight<space>right?
2013_06_27BOS 1 6050.00 8.56 Effectively<space>it's<space>the<space>3rd.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6058.56 21.12 It's<space>a<space>placeholder.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6080.08 0.32 Dick?
2013_06_27BOS 1 6080.48 5.84 What's<space>the<space>relevance<space>of<space>stating<space>the<space>Kenny<space>Chesney,<space>Taylor<space>swift<space>concerts<space>and<space>these<space>dates<space>beyond<space>the<space>3rd?
2013_06_27BOS 1 6086.56 0.72 I'm<space>sorry.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6087.44 10.08 What's<space>the<space>relevance<space>of<space>stating<space>these..Oh,<space>they<space>just<space>-<space>I'm<space>just<space>identifying<space>-<space>'Cause<space>they'll<space>all<space>expire<space>on<space>the<space>30th<space>-<space>They<space>all<space>expire<space>-<space>Yeah.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6097.60 0.80 Okay.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6098.96 8.40 I'll<space>make<space>a<space>motion<space>to<space>modify<space>the<space>previous<space>votes<space>taken<space>by<space>the<space>Board<space>of<space>Selectmen,<space>approving<space>the<space>applications<space>for<space>the<space>following<space>concerts<space>at<space>Gillette<space>Stadium.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6107.52 3.84 Kenny<space>Chesney,<space>August<space>23rd<space>and<space>24th,<space>2013.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6111.52 7.04 Taylor<space>swift,<space>July<space>26th<space>and<space>27,<space>2013,<space>and<space>Bon<space>Jovi,<space>July<space>20th,<space>2013.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6118.64 8.88 And<space>for<space>soccer<space>events<space>by<space>extending<space>the<space>second<space>condition<space>of<space>such<space>improvements<space>regarding<space>attaining<space>liability<space>insurance<space>with<space>such<space>events,<space>insuring<space>both<space>the<space>applicant<space>and<space>the<space>town.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6127.76 7.36 The<space>applicant<space>shall<space>provide<space>insurance<space>not<space>later<space>than<space>July<space>5th,<space>2013<space>in<space>a<space>form<space>satisfactory<space>to<space>this<space>board.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6135.20 5.12 All<space>remaining<space>conditions<space>of<space>set<space>application<space>approvals<space>remain<space>in<space>full<space>force<space>and<space>effect.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6141.60 1.92 Motion's<space>made,<space>is<space>there<space>a<space>second?
2013_06_27BOS 1 6143.92 2.72 Second<space>-<space>Any<space>more<space>discussion?
2013_06_27BOS 1 6147.12 1.36 Alls<space>in<space>favor?
2013_06_27BOS 1 6148.56 4.32 Aye<space>-<space>Alls<space>opposed?
2013_06_27BOS 1 6152.96 1.60 Motion<space>to<space>adjourn.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6154.88 2.64 So<space>moved<space>-<space>All<space>in<space>favor.
2013_06_27BOS 1 6157.60 14.56 Okay.