Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/11:11 (numerology) (2nd nomination)
or '''Rename 11:11 (time)''' We are talking about a "time" on a clock, correct? Nevermind the debate over whether time is a dimension or merely a measuring system. 11:11 is numerals (symbols) on a digital clock, right? The first 11 represents the "hour" of the "day" and the second 11 represents the "minute" and a "colon" separates the two. A number is an abstract idea used in counting and measuring, so it seems to me that 11:11 itself is an abstract idea. What is 11:11? A ''time'' on a digital clock (that ''measures time'') that occurs twice in a 24-hour period. Is that a circular definition? I guess, but I can't think of another word than "a time" to describe 11:11. When people ask "what time is it?", others generally don't say "It's eleven eleven time." They just say "about a quarter past eleven" (or maybe "eleven eleven" if they're looking at a Windows toolbar). I think we are primarily talking about digital clock displays and not analog clocks. I think I've heard the phrase "noontime" before...but now I'm rambling. Apparently Uri Geller has mentionedhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2002/03_march/12/urigeller.shtml this particular time of day and some bookshttp://www.amazon.com/dp/1878246054/http://www.amazon.com/dp/0957788967/ have been written about this time of day (or the numbers/symbols themselves). I haven't read the books but I think they may talk of the notion that when one looks at a clock, these numbers, or this specific time, appear frequently (or perhaps are noticed more). It appears to me that there may be superstitions about this time or "New Age" beliefs concerning angels, etc about this time (as seen in results from a search engine query). So, should 11:11 have a entry in Wikipedia? Currently, 11:11 is a disambiguation page with links to music albums, songs, etc. Should there be a Wikipedia page for 11:11, the time of day that appears twice daily on digital clocks? That may count as #INFO|indiscriminate collection of information but if there is a segment of "New Age" thought that assigns significance to that time, it may be notable. There is a page on Number of the Beast|666. The page 13 (number) contains a section called ''A Significant Number'' (which may be helpful in this case). Although perhaps 11:11 (numerology) is an attempt to start a new "meme" (if you believe in memes) in a similar way. This pagehttp://www.crystalinks.com/11.11.html seems to be more about 11:11 in relation to numerology, but is it a reliable source? That page mentions "Solara"http://www.nvisible.com/ (who published a book in 1992) and also mentions sacred geometry and 2012 (and that article mentions metaphysical predictions about the year). We could rename the page 11:11 (time) and list any significance attributed to it, much like the 2012 article. Is "Solara" a noted New Age author? The book was published by ''Star Borne Unlimited''. Is that a |self-published source? I don't know. Amazons lists at least 6 books by that author. So, would a page entitled 11:11 (numerology) serve as a promotion for these New Age books/theories?  says Wikipedia should not make something more notable than it actually is, although it *is* just a guideline afterall. A page exists for the movie The Number 23 (which was based on ideas by Robert Anton Wilson I believe). Some have said that noticing 11:11 more than other times is an example of confirmation bias and some have said noticing 11:11 is about hidden messages. The article looks OK to me right nowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=11:11_%28numerology%29&oldid=146703576. If the page is deleted, I think the information on numerology should still remain on the 11:11 disambiguation page. 11:11 (numerology) is hyperlinked on 11 (number), 11:11, and Master Numbers (Numerology) and those hyperlinks seem appropriate to me. It could be said that every Wikipedia article promotes its topic and brings attention to it. |"Worthy of notice" is a subjective opinion, but I think the ''idea'' of 11:11 has spread beyond "Solara" somewhat (and I'm not sure if that author originated it). We have articles on Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster, Time Cube, Law of Attraction, and The Secret (2006 film)|The Secret. Supernatural beliefs about 11:11 may not be as mainstream as those topics -- that is why I recommend the page be renamed '''11:11 (time)''' and the numerology information put in a section titled ''Numerology'' or ''Numerological significance'' or ''New Age significance.'' Failing that, perhaps the following should be added to the 11:11 page: ''A time appearing on a digital clock twice daily, 11:11AM and 11:11PM'' and 11:11 (numerology) would discuss the meaninghttp://www.primitivism.com/time.htm attributed to that time/symbol(s). On another note, this article reminds me of a certain Blood (The X-Files)|X-Files episode
— User:Pixelface, 12:08, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Stance: keep
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