Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Russia–Turkey proxy conflict (2nd nomination)
per Talk:Russia–Turkey proxy conflict#Is there really a proxy conflict?|my comments on the talk page which led to this RfC. After reviewing the sources I cannot find experts describing the Russia-Turkey relationship as a consistent proxy conflict, instead it's variously referred to as "competition"/"rivalry"/a "shaky alliance" etc., with pragmatic cooperation in areas of mutual interest. (Example sources: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2021/679090/EPRS_BRI(2021)679090_EN.pdf https://eurasianet.org/turkey-russia-competition-and-cooperation https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/OXAN-DB258615/full/html https://www.politico.eu/article/azerbaijan-armenia-caucasus-skirmish-pits-russia-against-turkey-straining-shaky-alliance/ https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/russia-turkey-rivalry-looms-over-nagorno-karabakh-peace-deal-1.4405676). This article appears to heavily rely on OR, citing news reports about events in which both Russia & Turkey are involved, and connecting these events to a broader "conflict" when the sources don't go this far. The sources ''do'' describe the Syrian and Libyan civil wars as "proxy wars" or "https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/30/armenians-azerbaijan-turkey-russia-clashes/ mercenary wars" in which both Russia & Turkey have been competing through the use of mercenaries/direct military intervention – but describing those individual conflicts as proxy wars doesn't equate to there being a being a actual proxy conflict ''between Russia and Turkey themselves'' (à la Iran–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict). I can't find strong sourcing to support such an exceptional claim. As there's no significant narrative on the page describing the nuances/nature of the alleged proxy conflict (it's mostly a list of events supposedly part of the conflict), I'm personally in favour of outright deletion per  in order to remove the mess of OR. However, if other editors can see something worth salvaging it can be merged into Russia–Turkey relations
— User:Jr8825, 18:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Stance: delete
Cited policy: WP:TNT (Wikipedia:Blow it up and start over)