Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Upstate New York
per  and  and many of the other keep arguments, including the speedy ones. It's clearly notable and no one has suggested it isn't. The delete arguments are essentially that the article is a mess, it's duplicative, and the region is not clearly defined. Yes, it needs work, but needing cleanup and work does not equal needing deletion. Upstate and downstate are used politically, culturally, and geographically, as in Upstate Medical University and Downstate Medical Center. (Disclosure: I'm a Downstater
— User:Becksguy, 08:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Stance: keep
Cited policy: WP:ATD||WP:BEFORE (Wikipedia:Deletion policy)