Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Accumulate and fire
I'm going to respond to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FAccumulate_and_fire&diff=159074356&oldid=158834327 all three posts here because rampant discussion forking is only going to make this a lot more annoying to read. Right, with that said. ''Re: "I don't see a single mention of PDP's Accumulate and Fire pattern anywhere."'' I don't see a single mention of it (PDP) in the article either, and just for certainty I did just go through every single revision to check, so my point, as it has been from the beginning, is that this is concerning the practice in general and not strictly in terms of how PDP views it. (Heck, I can't even see how we can make a differentiation between the two to begin with. http://perldesignpatterns.com/?AccumulateAndFire PDP's accumulate and fire is about the practice in general itself. The only thing specific to PDP is the terminology.) Furthermore, the page itself makes no references to Perl at all, but instead makes references to COBOL and BASIC, so your claim that this article must be specific to PDP's version of accumulate and fire is even more bizarre. Once again, I've checked every single revision to be sure of this. (For historical purposes, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Accumulate_and_fire&oldid=157242374 this is the most recent revision as of this writing.) The only part of this article that is specific to PDP is the name "accumulate and fire," which I've put forth is more of a tentative title than anything else because it's just one way you could possibly name the subject matter. Too many globals itself is probably a more indicative title of the subject matter, although also misleading because it isn't the quantity but rather the use of global variables that constitutes this practice. Needless to say, your insistence that this article is meant to adhere to PDP's specific pattern is not only empirically disproved and nonsensical (in that PDP itself discusses the general practice) but also constitutes a neat form of odd specificity that would force us to be left with only PDP itself, forcing us to discard all other sources as irrelevant since they do not ''specifically'' conform to PDP which result in the article substantiating the claim of non-notability (which, truth be told, I am now somewhat tempted to suspect has been your intention all along in suddenly applying this criterion, seeing as it has been interestingly absent of all discussion prior to my involvement of those links, but I'll |assume good faith anyway, especially considering your efforts to improve wikipedia, rather than assuming you would be |disrupting wikipedia to prove a point for whatever reason, possibly your pride, in which case one would be |gaming the system, which I take it would be quite unlike you), although you have for a while completely neglected my points on how we should ignore the notability guideline altogether with respect to this article, and perhaps that is merely because you disagree with my making this the occasional exception. (Then again, I largely disagree with these notability guidelines altogether.) Anyhow, merging the article into shared memory is also problematic since this is not exclusively inter-process communication we are discussing, and any attempts to expand it beyond that could potentially result in |original research problems, although I suppose it should be possible to comment on how global variables can be taken to constitute a form of shared memory in intra-process communication. The article could be merged into the global variable article, as could the action at a distance article, but perhaps it is better to leave global variables themselves in one article and practices concerning them in another. Essentially, this is reasonable, but I see no real need. Re: "I never said anything against the naming convention." You discussed "dragging them into a battle over this obscure coinage," and coinage, as per http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/coinage dictionary.com, means "an invented or newly created word or phrase," although it can also mean "anything made, invented, or fabricated," for that matter. However, your comment about "the content and coinage" later differentiates the two, so you are evidently not discussing the content when referring to coinage but rather "an invented or newly created word or phrase" (which is synonymous with neologism), dragging the naming convention into the matter. Also, the naming convention is the only part of this article specific to PDP's accumulate and fire. Lastly, I did look into the matter with the editor Eep²/Gamer Eek, and I find mostly that he simply has his own view of how the world works, and finds people who disagree to be simply wrong. I suppose at least he didn't waste people's time that much with getting to the point that he thinks you're wrong, and then the discussion, if any, instead of going through a lengthy discussion whereupon it slowly becomes apparent that he thinks others are simply/unequivocally wrong. Beyond that, he probably also ran into a few |issues with the cabal. You haven't, however, stated, how that relates to the discussion at hand, so I'm ''guessing'' (not sure) that you mean that you don't agree that you should ignore all instances of ignore all rules (), but you haven't exactly reconciled this with your own criterion of "pretty extreme justification," so... maybe you really do agree with IIAR? Also, there's a lot I've mentioned before that you haven't responded to. At any rate, if you could answer, that would be nice. Thank you
— User:Caudax, 07:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Stance: merge
Cited policy: WP:AGF||WP:POINT||WP:GAME||WP:OR||WP:TINC||WP:IIAR (Wikipedia:Assume good faith)