Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krista White
My apologies, but I am not convinced that winning a reality show competition qualifies as a "well-known and significant award or honor". The claim that winning ANTM {{tq|is, without reasonable doubt, a "well-known and significant award or honor" from the point of view of the general culture}}, needs some sort of source, as there is plenty of room for interpretation of the word "significant". In order to claim that "consensus is overridden" by the policy itself, it must be crystal-clear what "significant" means; I would argue to the point of actually stating in the policy itself that winning a reality show competition qualifies. Failing that, we must fall back to either a reliable source actually documenting the "significance" of winning a reality competition (and not just claiming that "public opinion says it is significant"), or using tried-and-true consensus to determine what "significant" really does mean specifically in this context. Two people here have already come to opposite conclusions, so clearly there is ambiguity in the term. Furthermore there has yet to be anything approaching a consensus (that I can find) that reality show winners have any special notability on WT:Notability itself where  actually lives (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)/Archive_4#Reality_show_participants.3F, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)/Archive_5#Guideline_for_reality_show_contestants, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)/Archive_2008#Reality_TV_contestants, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)/Archive_6#Reality_TV_star_noteability_guidelines), let alone on any of the AfDs for ANTM contestants (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Allen_Henson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Avdy_Andresson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bello_S%C3%A1nchez, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bre_Scullark, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cassandra_Whitehead_(3rd_nomination), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Chantal_Jones, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Christobelle_Grierson-Ryrie, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Claire-Aimee_Unabia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Destenee, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Elyse_Sewell, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Heather_Kuzmich, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kahlen_Rondot_(2nd_nomination), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kari_Schmidt, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kathy_Hoxit, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kayla_Ferrel, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Keenyah_Hill_(2nd_nomination), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kiara_Belen, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Louise_Glover, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Samuel_Rascoff, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sarah_Rhoades, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sarah_VonderHaar_(2nd_nomination), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Caridee_English, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Brittani_Kline, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lisa_D%27Amato, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lisa_D%27Amato_(2nd_nomination)).  attempted to codify such a stance but failed;  (and , etc.) don't mention anything about winning a competition of any kind.And honestly, what makes winning a reality show significant in the first place? The Scripps National Spelling Bee is much harder with far more contestants, fewer winners per year (1 vs 2), viewed by nearly as many people, and clearly doesn't impart notability. Winning the Jeopardy! College Championship has approximately the same number of contestants, also takes place over a series of episodes, and typically watched by more than three times as many people as ANTM. So what makes ANTM, the http://deadline.com/2012/05/full-2011-2012-tv-season-series-rankings-277941/ 142nd-rated television show of 2011-12, and the 30th-rated reality show of that same season, worthy of being called a "significant" award? Even Survivor, a much higher-rated and longer-running series, doesn't have articles for all its winners. So let's just set  aside for a moment, as I don't think this qualifies. (never mind declaring that passing  ''prima facie'' entitles someone to an article is patently false; all of these additional criteria come with the caveat {{tq|meeting one or more does '''not''' guarantee that a subject should be included}}.)So now we are back to . Yes, this is not the only way to pass notability, but as we've already addressed , and she doesn't pass /, that's really all that's left. So what kind of coverage does Ms. White have?I can find a number of sources that were published within a few days of her winning (http://people.com/tv/americas-next-top-model-winner-krista-still-feels-really-regular/, http://www.seventeen.com/beauty/celeb-beauty/news/a7275/antm-cycle14-krista-white/, http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-krista-white-talks-about-her-america-next-top-model-win-10934.php, http://www.oxygen.com/americas-next-top-model/photos/season-14-winner-krista-white, http://www.sophisticatesblackhairstyles.com/antm-winner-krista-white/, http://forums.thefashionspot.com/f52/krista-white-105525.html, http://www.tvguide.com/news/top-model-winner-1018386/, http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/americas-next-top-model-winner-krista-white-i-worked-that-grace-jones.html, http://www.buddytv.com/articles/americas-next-top-model/exclusive-interview-krista-whi-36573.aspx, http://www.ew.com/article/2010/05/13/americas-next-top-model-finale-recap/), but I would argue that these merely support . So what about significant  coverage? That's a bit harder to find, but these are what I located that weren't passing mentions: https://www.buzzfeed.com/bricesander/wanna-be-on-top-top-top-top?utm_term=.tfROMYpxj#.uo8r7BVAP, https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/12/04/fashion/americas-next-top-model-finale-where-are-the-winners-now.html, http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/america-s-next-top-model-where-are-they-now-124647/photos/krista-white-antm-2017-230359, http://www.eonline.com/photos/17666/ranking-every-america-s-next-top-model-winner-who-s-on-top/537423, https://www.popsugar.com/beauty/photo-gallery/3120661/image/13473756/Krista-White, http://ew.com/gallery/americas-next-top-model-where-are-they-now/americas-next-top-model-then-and-now. Notice how every one of these articles discusses the whole group of winners (or contestants in one case). They clearly establish the notability of the group as a whole (and would qualify for a standalone list, if it weren't already an integral part of the ANTM page itself), but I don't believe they establish the notability of the individual members of the list. Clearly all of the models merit inclusion in the list, and they are indeed all mentioned on the ANTM page. But I don't see them as individually notable as a result
— User:Cthomas3, 11:13, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Stance: delete
Cited policy: WP:ANYBIO||WP:REALITY||WP:NMODEL||WP:NACTOR||WP:ANYBIO||WP:ANYBIO||WP:GNG||WP:BLP1E||WP:SUSTAINED (Wikipedia:Notability)