Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim and Mary McCartney (2nd nomination)
I totally agree with the nominator's reasoning – the whole article just reads like an episode of ''Who Do You Think You Are?''... interesting titbits for anyone interested in the subject matter, but fundamentally, the only interest comes from them being related to a celebrity. The subjects are not individually notable at all, their notability is entirely  from being the parents of their famous sons. Or, to put it another way... would they qualify for a Wikipedia article if their sons hadn't obtained a measure of notability? I can't see how this passes , as the subject for the sources used in the article is Paul McCartney, not his parents. Of course there are reliable sources in existence, being as one of their sons became internationally famous, and any decent biography needs to talk about its subject's background and childhood, but it doesn't make the parents famous if they are mentioned in biographies about their children – the only thing I can see that could possibly count towards their own individual notability is Jim writing a couple of songs that Paul later recorded... and even then, he only recorded them because it was his own father (would they have made it onto record any other way?), and they only made it onto a deluxe CD package of outtakes released more than twenty years later. The argument that "unencyclopedic language should just be removed" – well, almost everything I can see in the article is unencyclopedic, and therefore the arguments for  don't apply either, because what would be left are just a few lines which are already included in Paul McCartney#Early life anyway. I don't see a redirect as a solution because Paul McCartney's children James and Mary are probably better known now to the public than his parents, and therefore the more likely search targets – I cannot see a situation where someone would be looking for either Jim or Mary McCartney that wasn't in connection with their son's childhood, instead of for them personally
— User:Richard3120, 18:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Stance: delete
Cited policy: WP:INHERITED||WP:GNG||WP:SPINOUT (Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions)