Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gumrah (1993 film)
This is a notable film, and easily more so than many of the American straight-to-video movies considered "notable". It must be kept in mind that notability is not simply the outcome of games played between Wikipedia editors with  as rules, but something that is presumed to exist and for which  is a guideline. There are two arguments in the delete vote that would be a dangerous precedent: (1) "would have been referenced in various scholarly works": this is not the case, as most movies (and popular culture in general) in India simply do not get anywhere the level of obsession or academic attention that is granted to them in the West. Does this mean that Indian movies are inherently less notable? (2) the reliance on online resources: this is bad, since as SpacemanSpiff pointed out, online archives are flaky. Both of these, and other things to watch out for, are covered at ountering systemic bias. In this case, given that it is a big-budget film produced by Yash Johar and featuring major stars and director, and the http://www.google.com/archivesearch?q=gumrah+%28johar+OR+bhatt+OR+sridevi%29 sources online mention phrases like "mammoth production" and "company's biggest hits over the years, from Dostana in the 80s to Gumrah in the 90s to the more recent Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna" (which isn't actually true, but whatever), and the coverage before launch mentioned above, it is fairly clear—and safe to assume—that the film ''was'' notable, did arrive with a lot of hype, and received reviews (more than two!) in national newspapers and the like. To use Spiff's pat analogy: would you assume, in the absence of other information, that any film starring Russell Crowe or nominated for one of the major Oscars might be non-notable (by the current guidelines. I'm not proposing a new criterion for notability
— User:Shreevatsa, 03:58, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Stance: keep
Cited policy: WP:NF||WP:NF||WP:C (Wikipedia:Notability)