Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Golden Plate awardees
When G11 is referring to promotional, it's speaking of the tone of the article. In a way, G11 isn't looking at notability at all and I don't see how it could apply here at all. The article seems quite neutral to me. As for the subject, the Academy of Achievement is clearly notable, there's no question about that. The question is, is this award notable? Using it as a list definitely makes it easier to lower the bar for notability, as we only have to consider whether it meets . First off, I definitely disagree with the nominator's statement about considering all sources as PR. We have no way of determining if sources are or are not press releases (unless they specifically say so), so it seems useless to try and against policy to just try and say all sources are useless because we don't know. So, ignoring that, I see that there are sources that discuss the award as a group, like the Post article, along with a number of news sources discussing people who have individually won the award, such as http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=dq9VAAAAIBAJ&sjid=YkANAAAAIBAJ&pg=5227,4246571&dq=golden-plate+award+academy+of+achievement&hl=en here, http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=NewsLibrary&p_multi=DSNB&d_place=DSNB&p_theme=newslibrary2&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0F3644323A04EF5D&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM here, http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/645368162.html?dids=645368162:645368162&FMT=CITE&FMTS=CITE:AI&type=historic&date=Jun+18%2C+1974&author=&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=American+Academy+of+Achievement+to+Honor+Walker&pqatl=google here, http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=0glKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=AB4NAAAAIBAJ&pg=4515,5263964&dq=golden-plate+award+academy+of+achievement&hl=en here, http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Ca4lAAAAIBAJ&sjid=UfMFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3448,3178013&dq=golden-plate+award+academy+of+achievement&hl=en here, and https://www.google.com/#q=%22Golden+Plate%22+award+academy+of+achievement&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=nws&source=lnt&tbs=ar:1&sa=X&psj=1&ei=ZgyFT4SDD-Pq2QXlsKCaCQ&ved=0CA4QpwUoBQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=32616ddf09bcc4cc&biw=1366&bih=643 so much more. Based on all of this, I see no reason why this article doesn't handily meet the notability requirements for lists, indeed, the award itself seems to be notable from these sources
— User:Silver, 04:51, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Stance: keep
Cited policy: WP:LISTN (Wikipedia:Notability)