Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vanessa Veracruz
for now, start a new AfD only if PORNBIO is changed. This clearly passes the current #1 criteria, "Has won a well-known and significant industry award. Awards in scene-related and ensemble categories are excluded from consideration." I bet almost everyone claiming that Lesbian Performer of the Year awards aren't notable wouldn't say the same thing about Gay Performer of the Year awards. It would be an obvious double standard to consider Gay Performer of the Year notable on Wikipedia under PORNBIO, but not Lesbian Performer of the Year. I actually think it's a shame these porn ceremonies took so long to add this category, which should have been created many years, possibly even decades, ago. I'm willing to have a discussion on PORNBIO and may even agree to tightening it, but only if the proposed exclusion is reasonable. Here is what is definitely not a reasonable exclusion: genre-specific awards. First of all, PORNBIO itself supports the inclusion of genre-specific awards ("has made unique contributions to a specific pornographic genre"). What better evidence of meeting that criteria is there than genre-specific awards? The exclusion of genre-specific awards would also result in the loss of entire categories on WP, like :Category:Actors in gay pornographic films and :Category:Transsexual pornographic film actors. Now, here is what actually is a reasonable exclusion I may agree to: temporarily-awarded categories. Perhaps PORNBIO#1 could be renamed to "Has won a well-known and significant industry award. Awards in categories that are scene-related, ensemble, or less than # years old are excluded from consideration." I think five is good enough, but I know many won't agree to that. 10 years, I think, would be the highest possible number that can be considered reasonable so that entire ceremonies, like Hot d'Or, aren't entirely left out of PORNBIO. The Hot d'Or awards appear to have only three 10-year+ categories anyways (Best European Starlet, Best European Actress, Best European Actor), so a 10-year minimum is enough to reduce the number of articles that meet PORNBIO. But, this isn't the place to discuss this. At the moment, Veracruz passes PORNBIO
— User:Rebecca1990, 18:19, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Stance: keep
Cited policy: WP:PORNBIO (Wikipedia:Notability)