Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Todd Tracy (2nd nomination)
There've been a few AfDs lately for articles on sound engineers, and the creators are making two basic and repeated mistakes.  One is not realizing that when we say "notable" on Wikipedia we mean whether a subject meets the criteria of the |GNG and ,  and other subsidiary guidelines, not "I think he's important."  The second mistake - and one shared by a great many experienced editors - is in not understanding that the subsidiary criteria merely indicates a ''presumption'' of notability: that if you meet one of those criteria, it's likely you'll pass the GNG.  But the GNG is never waived outright.  It's the case here.  Just as we don't give an automatic pass to the composer, the cover artist, the band's financial manager, the producer and everyone else involved in an album, we don't give a pass to the sound engineers either.  Why?  ''Because the world hasn't heard of them.''  Prove that the subject passes the GNG, and I'll change my vote
— User:Ravenswing, 18:14, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Stance: delete
Cited policy: WP:GNG||WP:BIO||WP:ORG (Wikipedia:Notability)