Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Grand
This article was originally created to cover the entire franchise, which is covered in-depth by independent reliable sources (see those cited in the Special:Permalink/996765156|original version), and is notable. Most of these sources are primarily about the flagship Miss Grand Thailand pageant, which appears to be more notable than its international counterpart (see my comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Grand Thailand (2nd nomination)). However, other editors have since attempted to hijack the article into covering Miss Grand International instead of properly creating a separate article. The previous AfDs did not see serious attempts at identifying reliable sources, and instead were pile-ons where participants made  arguments based on the articles' perceived fancruft and promotional writing. That said, there has been plenty of English-language coverage of the international pageant, mostly focused on the controversies it's generated (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/miss-iceland-lose-weight-nawat-itsaragrisil-instagram-letter-a7380646.html ''The Independent'', https://www.mic.com/articles/157567/miss-iceland-was-body-shamed-and-told-to-stop-eating-for-a-beauty-pageant-so-she-quit Mic.com, https://www.khaosodenglish.com/life/entertainment/2019/07/15/miss-grand-thailand-2019-ignites-netizen-rage-for-calling-catriona-gray-fat/ Khaosod English, https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/fashion/78332011/demanding-miss-grand-international-beauty-queen-is-dethroned Stuff.co.nz). There's also coverage of the pageant's support of a Myanmar contestant's anti-coup protests (https://thediplomat.com/2021/04/miss-grand-myanmar-to-speak-for-her-country-from-thailand/ The Diplomat, https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2021/03/31/i-will-do-everything-i-can-miss-grand-myanmar-seeks-refuge-in-thailand/ Khaosod English, https://elevenmyanmar.com/news/myanmar-beauty-queen-creates-waves-as-anti-coup-plea-goes-viral Eleven Myanmar). While they do not go into in-depth detail about the pageant's operations, they might still constitute enough significant coverage to satisfy the . If this is agreed on and Miss Grand International is deemed notable, '''split''' the article into Miss Grand Thailand (supported by the original sources) and Miss Grand International (supported by more recent ones including my examples). Otherwise, '''purge''' the irrelevant content and '''rename''' to Miss Grand Thailand, so that further hijacking does not occur
— User:Paul_012, 06:09, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Stance: keep
Cited policy: WP:JUSTNOTNOTABLE||WP:GNG (Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions)