Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raymond R. York
I have broader concerns about how Wikipedia handles notability when it comes to crime victims (versus criminals).  We have many articles on Wikipedia about notable :Category:Criminals|criminals. If not for the criminal act or incident that gave them notability, they are not notable.  This is the case for each of the 19 hijackers.  But, somehow Wikipedia judges them |notable because of their criminal act is highly notable.  Under the very same standard, the victims of these notorious criminals/incidents are also notable.  I disagree with the double-standard applied to criminals of notorous crimes versus their victims.  If we delete this Raymond R. York|article, then perhaps the hijacker articles should also go, except maybe Mohammed Atta which is more a familiar name than the others.  And in some cases, Wikipedia has allowed articles on :Category:Murder victims by nationality|crime victims. For example, we have an article on both Laci Peterson (and Scott Peterson), as well as Natalee Holloway, Chandra Levy, JonBenét Ramsey, and others going back to the :Category:Jack_the_Ripper_victims|victims of Jack the Ripper.  None were notable until their murders.  I disagree with the double-standard applied here, with these :Category:Murder victims by nationality|crime victims versus 9/11 victims.  If we delete this Raymond R. York|article, then the articles about Laci Peterson, Natalee Holloway, Chandra Levy, JonBenét Ramsey, and other :Category:Murder victims by nationality|crime victims need to be deleted.  In all we need more uniformity in how we apply  to both criminals and crime victims, as well as among victims of various notorious crimes. Of course Wikipedia is not a memorial.  Any crime victim articles on Wikipedia need to be handled in an encyclopedic manner, be properly |cited, |verifiable, and |NPOV
— User:AudeVivere, 14:54, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Stance: comment
Cited policy: WP:BIO||WP:BIO||WP:CITE||WP:V||WP:NPOV (Wikipedia:Notability)