Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Murphy (3rd nomination)
Honestly, this rationale is nonsensical. We have a straightforward standard for inclusion - a person must be unambiguously notable for inclusion, based on our criteria: "if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." Brandt and Finkelstein were of marginal notability and I've no idea who Fishkin was. Murphy, however, is in a totally different league. Factiva finds many dozens of articles either directly about him or which mention him; there's a full-length profile in the ''Hollywood Reporter'' ("Risky Business", ''Hollywood Reporter'', 13 January 2006), many articles about his role in making ''Transformers'' and even more articles about his role in making ''Natural Born Killers'', covering in particular a book by his co-producer Jane Hamsher in which Murphy has star billing (so to speak). There's absolutely no doubt in my mind, based on this quick Factiva search, that Murphy has notability in spadeloads. If he's significant enough to be profiled by the ''Hollywood Reporter'', for his activities to be described in numerous news articles and for his films to be at the top of the box office lists, he's notable - period. Durova's argument about Murphy's wishes is, frankly, irrelevant. We are not dependent on getting permission slips from our subjects to write about them. There is no basis whatsoever in policy for the argument that the subjects of articles have a veto on "their" articles. Durova cites , but based on the media reportage that I've found, I have no doubt at all that Murphy qualifies as a "#Well known public figures|well known public figure" within his professional community - "there will be a multitude of reliable, third-party published sources to take material from" and in this case there certainly is. There is also no good reason to stubbify the article because of a belief (how well founded, I don't know) that the article would be a vandalism magnet. We certainly don't do that for other comparable articles. Semi- and move-protect it, watchlist it, revert any bad edits and leave it at that
— User:ChrisO, 02:40, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Stance: keep
Cited policy: WP:BLP||WP:BLP (Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons)