Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julius Papp
On further thought, I think a problem with the "keep" argument that Michig is making is this: these lesser-known, independent-label musicians are effectively analogous to minor league athletes, who actually likely have hundreds more mainstream references in newspapers, TV, radio, &c. references, not only locally, but in national sources.  Yet, a consensus judgment call has been made that not only are they not notable just based on those references, but they are presumptively not notable unless they make it to the majors, except in the cases of major coverage despite the not making it to the majors.  's "per se notable" criteria effectively serves as a "make it to the majors" analog, and while I consider them somewhat over inclusive, I'm not going to quibble with the consensus there.  Yet when someone/some group doesn't make it on those criteria, I question how, in particular when the person/group does not draw coverage outside music publications, whether  can be at all invoked.  I'd consider them presumptively non-notable unless they make it to one of the  criteria
— User:Nlu, 04:16, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Stance: comment
Cited policy: WP:NMUSIC||WP:GNG||WP:NMUSIC (Wikipedia:Notability)