Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Van Tuyl
This is an interesting work of family history, based on a self-published book, which I have not seen.  If that book properly cites its sources AND the information taken from them is accurately reported, then that book is based on , and is itself , even though self-published.  However, it will be better that the original sources are cited directly, as that avoids the question of whether the book is .  Almost all history is ultiamtely based on Primary sources: some are published; some are not.  The WP concept involved in  is in my view designed to exclude invention from the author's own head.  History based on Primary Sources is by its nature based on the most reliable sources.  Sometimes it is necessary to compare one source with another, to eliminate bias, but that is the nature of hisotry.  My more fundamental question is whether the role played by members of the family either in the history of Gelderland or of New York is sufficient to make the family notable.  I am a historian, but not familiar with the detailed history of either.  However, I am far from convinced that there are more than a very few people of the surname who are notable.  I think the editor would be well advised to think which of the family were notable and to write WP articles on them individually
— User:Peterkingiron, 16:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Stance: comment
Cited policy: WP:RS||WP:RS||WP:OR (Wikipedia:Reliable sources)