Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kumobius
Anyone should read Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 135#The criteria of WP:NSPORT here are too inclusive|one of past discussions about notability, although the discussion was mainly about . There, it says that any subject-specific guideline may neither replace nor supersede , the long-standing guideline. I made a note at Wikipedia talk:Notability (organizations and companies)#‎Old VPP decision regarding GNG and subject-specific guidelines about that discussion, so anyone there can discuss the decision.  Regarding how the company meets GNG, I looked at sources used in the article. Most of them are just reviews toward the company's own games, written by mostly Gamezebo and Toucharcade. The games ''Duet'' and ''Time Surfer'' are cited by diverse range of sources in the list, but that's all there is. The reviews by Gamezebo and Touch Arcade are just promoting the awareness of the company and its games. If the company fails GNG, logically the article about it should not exist. Also, the WP:NORG neither supersedes nor replaces GNG, so if the company fails GNG, that guideline may be... not effective to help keep the article. I tried https://www.google.com/search?q=kumobius&tbm=nws&tbs=ar:1&cad=h searching for sources that are not from Touch Arcade. I saw reviews about ''Duet'' and ''Time Surfer''. http://www.pocketgamer.biz/asia/feature/60945/ Pocket Gamer substantially would make the company notable, but it's about another one of games, ''Bean Dreams'' or ''Bean's Quest''. I also found https://www.cnet.com/news/game-dev-stories-kumobius/ CNET review about ''Bean's Quest''.  Whether it passes or fails GNG, I'm unsure, but finding independent sources is not easy. Nonetheless,  (part of Notability guideline) and #Notability should supersede GNG if any subject-specific guideline doesn't. However, we are discussing a stub-looking article about one video game company with a bare-bones list of games. Some would say that the article is used to promote the supposedly "non-notable" company itself. However, third-party sources would verify the notabilities of a few games, though that doesn't make the company automatically notable. The article can be treated like some list of games done by one company, but I'm unsure whether it violates . Still, the article might have some potential notability, even when the company would fail GNG
— User:George, 06:42, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Stance: comment
Cited policy: WP:NSPORTS||WP:GNG||WP:NTEMP||WP:V||WP:NOTDIR (Wikipedia:Notability)