Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chiyo Miyako
Without delving into the depths of the Longevity issues on Wikipedia, here is a point that those in the "of course the world's oldest person is notable" camp might like to consider. Who says she is/was the world's oldest person? Simple right? Guinness "confirmed" this just before her death. End of story. Wrong! Guinness has previously stated that someone was the WOP, only to later to retract that attribution (Shigechyo Izumi). That was back when they did their own research. Now they (AFAIK) let the GRG do all their longevity research. So, no problem you might think.  In this case when Nabi Tajima died the next oldest "verified" person was Miyako, as was reported widely in . And the GRG is more reliable than other sources in this matter right? Except that Elizabeth Bolden was announced to be the WOP by both Guinness and the GRG only for the later identification of María Capovilla to be older. In addition the GRG has previously listed people as verified but with a question mark most of whom were eventually removed, while Mathew Beard was eventually "confirmed" to be "validated". In addition at one point the GRG (through Robert Young) insisted that an English supercentenarian had died when a relative insisted on Wikipedia that she had not. The GRG was in error. So just how |reliable IS the GRG??? Two successive RFCs Talk:List of oldest living people/Archive 14|here determined that no preference be given to the GRG over other reliable sources when it comes to the List of oldest living people. Given the edits/rationale behind the edits to List of oldest living people and Chiyo Miyako on July 25 (I have to note the multiple violations of , ,  and  and  for the edits I reverted in both cases), I have to wonder if the GRG should even be a considered a  at all. Are other editors still happy to blindly follow the GRG and Guinness when it comes to "verified" oldest (living) people? And if so surely it would be appropriate to define exactly what criteria determines notability in such cases
— User:DerbyCountyinNZ, 04:38, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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