Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antoni Dunin (2nd nomination)
as article creator) I will respect the community consensus on this, but I'd like to clear up a few misconceptions.  I did not create this article because the individual is my grandfather, I created the article because I felt that he met Wikipedia's notability standards. I also created other articles about other family members, who I similarly felt were sufficiently notable.  I had reviewed discussions such as at Wikipedia:Centralized discussions where the consensus on Nobility was that those of noble genealogy were inherently notable. I had seen AfDs such as this one that showed consensus for this as well.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Giuseppe_Said  I also saw that those who were recipients of a country's highest medal were considered notable.  I was able to locate a third-party list confirming the award of the Virtuti Militari medal.http://feefhs.org/PL/vm/vm-d.html And I had plenty of primary sources which confirmed the information, and were summarized in my family tree. Granted, there's not much more than a stub article here, but I felt that there was enough for a "real" stub. I also added some other minor biographical information, which is sourced to my own family tree.  As it turned out, the quantity of biographical information exceeded the amount of third-party sourced information.  I apologize if it looks like I was trying to create a "fluff" piece about one of my relatives, as that was not my intention at the time.  I felt then (and still do), that I was helping to "fill in a gap".  There are plenty of places where Wikipedia someday will have articles, that it currently doesn't.  The Mayors of Warsaw, the Finance Ministers of Pre-War Poland, etc.  I couldn't add comprehensive lists, but I could |be bold and add the bits and pieces of sources that I had access to at the time. Since I created the article, other sources have become available too, though they haven't been added to the article yet (and some are in Polish). Confirmation of his family home.http://dworki.3k.pl/album.php?dworek=55 A document about his cavalry unit.http://www.adiutor-mars.com.pl/mars/mars_19/mars_19_studia_tym.pdf The ''New York Times'' obituary of Antoni's father-in-law, Edward Werner, confirms that Antoni was a Count (by listing the death of his wife).http://www.elonka.com/mirrors/nytimes/nytimes19451117p17.pdf Confirmation that he's considered one of the notable members of his coat of arms.http://www.family-crests.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=210  The ''Polish Biographical Dictionary'' confirms the title of Antoni's father, Rodryg Dunin.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rodryg_Dunin#Translation_needed   And I have a 1947 letter from Senator Homer Ferguson to Secretary of State George Marshall, which mentions Anton Dunin by name, along with his children and some other relatives, as Ferguson worked with Congressional candidate Alfred Niezychowski (another of my relatives named in the letter) to get Antoni's orphaned children into the United States.  It is also my understanding that Ferguson actually added a rider to a Congressional bill, to specifically name the children and help them get into the country (though I have not been able to locate the exact bill, so of course it cannot yet be used as a source).  Whether or not anyone chooses to believe me, I can't control.  But I am speaking sincerely here:  It is my belief that Antoni Dunin passes .  If you delete this stub article today, my guess is that sometime in the future, it will just be re-created.  I think that deleting it would be a waste, and that ultimately, it would leave Wikipedia ''weaker'' than if the stub article were kept for later expansion.  If others feel that the article is somehow detrimental to Wikipedia though, and that Wikipedia would be better off without it, well, that's your decision to make
— User:Elonka, 05:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Stance: comment
Cited policy: WP:BOLD||WP:BIO (Wikipedia:Be bold)