Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iron Lady
I must note that the three dissenting voices to this Afd make their cases pretty poorly. Firstly, I should like to turn to {{u|Peterkingiron}}'s argument and his making the dubious case that {{tq|the list of people to whom the epithet has been applied}} is ''"potentially valuable"''. This is faulty logic that has already been discredited hitherto. Cutting to the chase, Margaret Thatcher is by far the , take Google Books for credence: there are https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Iron+Lady%22&oq=%22Iron+Lady%22 around 40,600 results that "Iron Lady" garners, of which all the results of the first page save just one pertain to the British stateswoman. Searching https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Iron+Lady%22&oq=%22Iron+Lady%22#tbm=bks&q=%22Iron+Lady%22+AND+%22Thatcher%22 "Iron Lady" AND "Thatcher" garners 25,600 results and only loses around 15,000. Yet https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Iron+Lady%22&oq=%22Iron+Lady%22#tbm=bks&q=%22Iron+Lady%22+-%22Thatcher%22 searching for "Iron Lady" -"Thatcher" loses around 10,000 results (with a negligible 15,600 garnered in total instead), and even this may be a slight exaggeration given how Thatcher is self-evidently alluded to in at least two of the results received on the first page. Having read , this pretty much nails it. Secondly, {{u|Tlhslobus}}'s arguments: stating that ''"it'' Iron Lady ''now often is"'' used to apply to other women. This statement pretty much flies in the face of  without shame. He then goes on to say that {{tq|In this respect it seems different from Iron Duke, as that nickname is seemingly not routinely applied to large numbers of other people.}} This ''"large numbers of other people"'' claim is (as I gladly concur with {{u|John}}) simply media-driven drivel and borderline sexism. Both Fernando Álvarez de Toledo, 3rd Duke of Alba and Luís Alves de Lima e Silva, Duke of Caxias have been widely described by various reputable sources also as "Iron Dukes", yet this does not in any way negate the fact that Wellington is by far the . (If you want Google Books statistics for Iron Duke, I will be happy to present you the facts.) You then go on to say, {{tq|Incidentally, perhaps partly but seemingly not entirely as a result of recent amendments, it now at least appears unusually well-sourced compared to many Wikipedia articles.}} That is a woefully inadequate "Well, at least it's not as bad as that article" case-in-point, that does neither side any favours and fails . For {{u|Alexmar983}} who stated that the {{tq|paragraph "Political usage" cannot be merged}} without reasoning, I cannot help but retort: "Why ever not?" Just why not? Although I admit I am warming to the option of just redirecting the article to Margaret Thatcher saving the trouble of us merging, I just cannot understand at all why a merge would be impractical. I urge you to re-read my rationale per the precedent with Wellington. You then go on to state that {{tq|This expression exists beyond Thatcher}}. Yup, as does The Iron Duke and a great many other nicknames of which I feel free to state, but as {{u|Mr. Magoo and McBarker}} correctly alludes, ''"if it'' a term ''has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term"'' a topic is ''primary'' for that term. Rather simple and clearly straightforward, I should think. In conclusion, I would like to note {{u|Caeciliusinhorto}}'s very constructive comment. '''If this page gets redirected? We certainly have the option of either (a) merging a proportion of the article's contents to Margaret Thatcher, (b) merging a proportion of the article's contents to Iron Lady (disambiguation) or (c) creating a new Wiktionary entry for wikt:Iron Lady|Iron Lady to make up for this article's deletion.''' I would like to stress again that there is nothing unreasonable about this Afd proposal in terms of  and . In a nutshell, this request aims to be a wise housekeeping measure through removing indiscriminate and superfluous information that is already mostly included at Margaret Thatcher and elsewhere
— User:Neve, 23:30, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Stance: comment
Cited policy: WP:PRIMARYTOPIC||WP:EVERYTHING||WP:WEIGHT||WP:OTHERCONTENT||WP:NOHARM||WP:ADDSVALUE (Wikipedia:Disambiguation)