Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Fand training camp
I'm taken aback at the vehemence of Sherurcij's Keep argument, which throws up a good deal of rhetoric flying in the teeth of  ''without actually addressing the nom's argument.'' I am astonished that an editor of longstanding has racked up over 30,000 edits without being aware that |Wikipedia is not a publisher of first instance, or that - far from being optional -  is the fundamental, irreducible value of the encyclopedia.  It is not remotely enough, as Sherurcij ought to know, to assert that ''someday'' |reliable sources might exist which satisfy the requirement of multiple, third-party, reliable sources discussing the subject in significant detail.  They must be present now, and so far they are not.  Failing that, policy holds that an article cannot be sustained
— User:Ravenswing, 17:10, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Stance: delete
Cited policy: WP:AGF||WP:NOT||WP:V||WP:RS (Wikipedia:Assume good faith)