Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Craig B. Lloyd
Ok, this is going to get long, but we need to address the points raised for the afd and explain this slowly for everyone's benefit. To begin with, everyone missed an important point here: strictly speaking, WP:SOLDIER does not - repeat '''NOT''' - apply here. While it is true that the United States Coast Guard does operate in a military capacity, the events covered in the article are not exclusively within the scope of the military history project, there are in keeping with the Coast Guard's role under the United States Department of Homeland Security. This means that the article's subject material comes more under the heading of the Wikipedia:Notability (people)|General Notability Guidelines for people as opposed to soldier specifically. Accordingly then, while SOLDIER 5 and 6 may state that he "Played an important role in a significant military event;" or "Commanded a substantial body of troops in combat;" they did not occur in a combat situation. That redefines this argument fundamentally to be one unrelated to milhist guidelines here. Without the protection of MILHIST in this matter, the rest of the article unwinds pretty quickly. Captain is a high ranking officer, but a captain in command of only a cutter does not qualify for the protection afforded flag officers. In this specific case, a little leeway does need to be given due to the nature of the Coast Guard's command structure - there are only two flag officers that are in the USCG, so captain should carry a little more weight here, but that is offset by the fact that there are 244 cutters in the Coast Guard, all of whom would likely carry a ranking officer at or near Captain, and that number does not include land based stations, boats, aircraft, or other non-naval related areas covered by the coast guard, which in turn offsets what little the article gains by this reorientation. His actions at the helm during the loss of the fishing boat on Deadliest Catch does initially appear to save the article, however it simultaneously seals the article's fate under : The cutter's captain is best known only for the rescue. His New Orleans service is in this case irrelevant to the notability claim since he was not on service in the Gulf of Mexico when Hurricane Katrina made landfall, which makes him 12 months too late to have had any important role in the well publicized rescue and recovery efforts in the city. The final nail in the coffin is that the only two references are for the man's education, not for his service. Without a means to verify the information in the article's other paragraphs, and with a master's degree being an important but common-ish education milestone, there is literally nothing in this article that demonstrates notability in any capacity
— User:TomStar81, 09:56, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Stance: delete
Cited policy: WP:ONEEVENT (Wikipedia:Notability)