Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Owen Lloyd
I quite agree with Fabrictramp.  While  is far too loose where athletes are concerned, the way to change that isn't to take a Wikipedia-wide accepted notability guideline and say "well, it doesn't count because I don't want it to count."  The way to do that is through changing consensus about the rule itself, and best of luck on that, because many have tried
— User:RGTraynor, 22:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Stance: keep
Cited policy: WP:BIO (Wikipedia:Notability)