Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Ayrton Senna
Hi {{u|Tvx1}}. "Nonsense" is a strong word to use here. I can understand your stand but you should see that the editors out here are only trying to help you reach a decision on whether the article should be deleted or not. It's not a battle of you against others. Thanks for linking up . I see that the guideline does clearly mention that "There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y")" – given that this list is named List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Ayrton Senna, I can now understand why you are debating. But your point that editors have not addressed the standalone notability is wrong. Multiple editors above, including Harrias, have shown that the stand alone detail is clearly notable. Reliable sources commenting on Senna's wins can be found quite easily specially given the recent Hamilton surge, for example – http://www.foxsports.com/motor/photos/ayrton-senna-f1-wins-images-110715 Fox Sports photo feature on Senna's F1 wins, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/watches/15828/drive-time-motorsport-inspired-watches.html The Telegraph on a watch series based on Senna's 41 wins, http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/13321781/incredible-equal-ayrton-senna-record-says-ferrari-sebastian-vettel-hungarian-gp-win ESPN on Vettel crossing Senna's record, http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/27/motorsport/motorsport-japanese-gp-hamilton/ CNN on Hamilton matching Senna's victories, http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/f1-lewis-hamilton-ayrton-senna-matching-record-091715 Fox Sports doing the same, http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/34373139 BBC, http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/17/lewis-hamilton-ayrton-senna-41-f1-wins-singapore The Guardian, http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12536/9990700/how-lewis-hamiltons-f1-record-stacks-up-against-ayrton-sennas Sky Sports,  and many more. As Harrias mentions, this happens every time someone comes close to Senna's record. To preempt a possible rebuttal based on these references,  also says "The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been." Do reconsider this nomination if you can. Thanks
— User:Xender, 03:06, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Stance: comment
Cited policy: WP:LISTN||WP:LISTN (Wikipedia:Notability)