Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/H. Paul Shuch
after ec) I am not trying to punish Shuch for COI editing. Here are my explicit concerns. The nutshell at  says ''If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be notable.'' Shuch himself has made the vast majority of the edits to his article, so it seems especially important to have relaible sources backing up his claims. He has been made aware of this and has had a few weeks to add more reliable sources. So what is he notable for? The article's "Overview" starts with ''Shuch, also known as "Dr. SETI", an aerospace engineer and microwave technologist credited with the design of the world's first commercial home satellite TV receiver1 2,...'' Now, that sounds very notable, but what are the "reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject" cited here? A patent? An article or textbook on or published history of satellite TV? No, reference 1 is a book on "Deploying License-free Wireless Wide-area Networks" and the claim is given in a bio of Shuch, who is one of the book's technical reviewers. The book's author is Shuch's "former student, former employee, fellow radio amateur, and lieflong friend." Does this seem like a "reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject"? The second reference is to a history page on a 1999 website for "Real-World Technology Ltd:  The UK's Set-Top Box Tuner Specialist". Even there it does not quite match the claim made in the article, but rather says ''H Paul Shuch had designed microstrip low-noise converters for the radio amateur 2.3, 3.4 and 5.6 GHz bands, and it was a small step to adapt them to cover the 4 GHz satellite downlink band.'' As I see it, Shuch could be notable for four things he has done: 1) professor, 2) engineer, 3) SETI work, and 4) filk singing. 1) Professor is covered by Wikipedia:Notability (academics) and he does not seem to meet the standard that "the academic is more notable than the average college instructor/professor" - the article does not say that he has even been tenured anywhere, for example. 2) Engineer and 3) SETI seem to fall under Wikipedia:Notability_%28people%29#Creative_professionals and the engineering work notability I adressed above. As for SETI work, the organization he was director of does not (yet) have a Wikipedia article on it. As for filk singing and , not notable. He has one ref in the whole music section, which attributes the cited quote back to Shuch himself: ''But Shuch would rather call himself a cross between Carl Sagan and Tom Lehrer''. I agree with Kurt Weber - Shuch exists, as do over 6 billion other people. I do not doubt that he has done the things the article claims. As I see it (and as I said above) if he is notable it is for his engineering and/or SETI work (there are lots of retired adjunct / visiting professors out there and many filk singers too). I am not an expert on his fields of engineering or SETI and it may well be that he is notable, but I just wanted to state my concerns more explicitly
— User:Ruhrfisch, 01:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Stance: comment
Cited policy: WP:NN||WP:MUSIC (Wikipedia:Notability)