Edited sentence: "Actual" feminists are usually quite open to the thoughts put forth by these groups, and usually support them.Its much easier to explain using the following analogy: In many of the arguments put forth by people trying to express the reasons that white people usually live less than black people, you will commonly see life expectancy rates brought into the argument.Occupation in Further Review.Replace "white people" with "women" and "black people" with "men" and the analogy becomes readily apparent.Some allegedly misogynistic people would argue that the reason for this is that women have more power in todays modernized world, if only socially, and thus live longer.Some scholars would argue that cause for this is that women are "biologically superior" to men, and thus live longer.The other arguments put forth about the "death gap" between the sexes are mens' traditonal employments.The reasons for this are heavily disputed.There isn't much evidence supporting this, and as its quite a misandristic point of view, it is usually dismissed immediatley in more intellectual circles.These groups face heavy oppresion from feminists, feminist organizations, and self-appointed "open minded" women.These same people argue that the mens' life expectancy rate is improving faster than womens' is because of the recent crop of Mens' Rights groups that have only now come into existence.They argue that men tend to work in more hazardous occupations (factories, military service, etc).They would bring up the fact that white people live longer, on average, than black people, as an example of their continued oppresion, even though no laws exist preventing them from being totally free.This is usually put forth with the "facts" (the names of the scientists who may or may have not researched it are not revealed, and neither are the sources) that  men generally drive, smoke and drink more than women - men are even more often murdered.Usually, however, these are radical, extremist "feminazi"s (as some people have come to call them)